When to rebrand fedora?

[Bryan Kearney]

Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 07:01 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:36 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>>> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:48 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>>>>> Since we're on the topic, I've also suggested on the "new trademark 
>>>>>> policy" wiki page[1], that rebranding should not be required in case you 
>>>>>> hand out a presentation or demo in case of an ISV, if you have built it 
>>>>>> upon Fedora and are simply handing it out to attendees of your session 
>>>>>> (which kinda equals to limited distribution, e.g. non-public). Same 
>>>>>> might apply to downstream vendors distributing appliances (like VMWare 
>>>>>> used to distribute .vmx files for some operating systems/distributions?)
>>>>>>
>>>>> This part I'm not so sure of.  "Limited distribution" in an age of
>>>>> convenient bit-moving doesn't mean a whole lot.  Rather, we should be
>>>>> working on automation for rebranding that makes the whole operation easy
>>>>> for anyone that wants to do it -- so the requirement is less onerous.
>>>>>
>>>> Euh, right, "Limited distribution" is most definitely not the right 
>>>> terminology, but I wouldn't want to force people (or ISVs for that 
>>>> matter) that hand out Fedora media containing a demo or presentation, to 
>>>> rebrand to the fullest because they add non-fedora content. Replacing 
>>>> fedora-logos is reasonable, anything beyond makes them go to other 
>>>> distributions to use or derive from.
>>> I think this *may* be fairly easy to solve in the Live image on USB
>>> case.  The part of the file system outside the Live image is completely
>>> outside of what we call Fedora.  Including presentation or demo material
>>> there doesn't affect the "Fedora-ness" of the Live image.  I would think
>>> that any claim it did would be a little strange, because that would
>>> affect anyone who uses a Live USB and decides to store some data in that
>>> external space.  This is just a preliminary thought.
>>
>> We give them the powser to build any packages into the live-usb and 
>> appliances. So I would sugest that any trademark solution address the 
>> idea that friends of ferdora will be build these and we want them to say 
>> "I built this on Fedora" but not "This is fedora"
> 
> That's exactly what the "Fedora Upstream"-type marking and the new
> guidelines are intended to do.
> 

If you move them to "Unregulated" then I am happy with it!

-- bk