From jdsw2002 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 4 19:01:52 2008 From: jdsw2002 at yahoo.com (jd) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:01:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: ConVirt Package Message-ID: <27809.87743.qm@web35802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> resending : It would be great if some one can please clarify -- If the python egg step is mandatory. or we can skip it for the first release. -- What does trading of package mean ? Do you mean the spec file? Thanks /Jd --- On Tue, 11/11/08, jd wrote: > From: jd > Subject: Re: ConVirt Package > To: fedora-isv-sig-list at redhat.com, "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 9:26 AM > Thanks Karsten for responding. > > No. We do not use libvirt yet. That is something that we > would be investigating shortly. > > I have started looking in to the packaging guide... > > One question is : We currently have an RPM spec and do not > have the python egg type install. Are python eggs mandatory > ? > > If the rpm/spec are in good shape, can we try to get > ConVirt in, while we work the egg (assuming it is > mandatory.) ? This way we can get a usable package in > sooner. > > Thanks > /Jd > > > > --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Karsten 'quaid' Wade > wrote: > > > From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade > > > Subject: Re: ConVirt Package > > To: fedora-isv-sig-list at redhat.com > > Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 5:50 PM > > On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 09:32:09AM -0800, jd wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I am Jd owner/maintainer of the ConVirt > project on > > > Sourceforge. We are Virtualization Management > tool > > for managing > > > VM Lifecycle for Xen and KVM environments. > More > > details about our > > > project can be found at > http://www.convirt.net. > > > > > > We do most of our development on Fedora and > > generate RPMs > > > too. The spec file is also part of the > > distribution. We would > > > like become part of the fedora > > distribution/repository. This > > > would make our package easily accessible to > our > > community. Would > > > like to understand the process and stream line > it > > to the extend > > > that newest releases of ConVirt are almost > > immediately available > > > to community via repository. > > > > > > Xavier.t Lamien has been kind and have been > trying > > to help us with > > > this, but has been swamped by other things. > Would > > appreciate if > > > someone can guide us to make some progress on > this. > > > > Sounds very interesting. Does ConVirt use any of the > other > > virt tools > > around Fedora, such as libvirt? > > > > People on this list might be interested in trading > initial > > package > > reviews. When you've got packages in review, you > could > > bring them > > here for a trade. > > > > Have you been through the package maintainers joining > > process and read > > the packaging guidelines? > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join > > > > Is there anywhere specifically you are stuck? > > > > Cheers - Karsten > > -- > > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener > > http://quaid.fedorapeople.org > > AD0E0C41 > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-isv-sig-list mailing list > > Fedora-isv-sig-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-isv-sig-list From kwade at redhat.com Thu Dec 4 20:09:10 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:09:10 -0800 Subject: ConVirt Package In-Reply-To: <27809.87743.qm@web35802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <27809.87743.qm@web35802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081204200910.GV11572@calliope.phig.org> On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 11:01:52AM -0800, jd wrote: > resending : > It would be great if some one can please clarify > -- If the python egg step is mandatory. or we can skip it for the first release. I'm unclear on that one; can you point out any reference in the Packaging Guide you have found? > -- What does trading of package mean ? Do you mean the spec file? Trading package reviews. It is a good first step with a package review to have a peer review it before you seek full sponsorship. This saves the sponsor telling you things that we *all* need to be learning; it helps each of us learn from each other's experiences. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks /Jd --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Karsten Wade wrote: > From: Karsten Wade > Subject: Re: ConVirt Package > To: fedora-isv-sig-list at redhat.com > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 12:09 PM > On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 11:01:52AM -0800, jd wrote: > > resending : > > It would be great if some one can please clarify > > -- If the python egg step is mandatory. or we can skip > it for the first release. > > I'm unclear on that one; can you point out any > reference in the > Packaging Guide you have found? > > > -- What does trading of package mean ? Do you mean the > spec file? > > Trading package reviews. It is a good first step with a > package > review to have a peer review it before you seek full > sponsorship. > This saves the sponsor telling you things that we *all* > need to be > learning; it helps each of us learn from each other's > experiences. > > - Karsten > -- > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener > http://quaid.fedorapeople.org > AD0E0C41 > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-isv-sig-list mailing list > Fedora-isv-sig-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-isv-sig-list From kwade at redhat.com Fri Dec 5 02:46:36 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:46:36 -0800 Subject: ConVirt Package In-Reply-To: <13815.18781.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20081204200910.GV11572@calliope.phig.org> <13815.18781.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081205024636.GY11572@calliope.phig.org> On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 01:37:25PM -0800, jd wrote: > Sorry Karsten, > > I think I misread the the section that talks about setuptools/pythoneggs on the following page. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Python > > Just to confirm, this section is talking about "if you have python > egg style installation, you should do the following". right ? What I'm seeing is a mix of 'must' and 'should' directives. The 'must' directives are not optional; the 'should' directives are optional but require an explanation if you do not follow the directive. A 'can' directive is a fully optional and does not require an explanation/justification. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Python#setuptools.2Feggs https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Python/Eggs Does that help? - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As a focus, I'm still able to commit some time to helping > everyone here get problems solved. > Hi, We are still very far from being able to build everything in Fedora, so we still have to keep our external repository _for_ Fedora. Furthermore, we all have irreconcilable dependency requirements among ourselves, so if one of the ISV builds _in_ Fedora will cause all the others to not run on Fedora anymore. However, we have two goals for Fedora 11: 1) Upgrade maven to at least 2.0.8. Deepak Bhole has contributed an update to the package for 2.0.4 that he created with Ralph Apel's and we are going to try and bootstrap that into Fedora 11. It is a complex project, several new dependency packages are required (have to be submitted, reviewed etc.) but it will allow many things to build in Koji as maven 2.0.4 does not build the newer versions. 2) Reach an agreement with the other ISVs and the Skywalker project on the version of some very basic libraries, so we can try and build these on Koji and reduce the external sets. This will also make easier to get more than one ISV set installed. It is not easy: some ISVs do not have the means to modify their code and things like the JEE AppServer (JBoss AS) are strongly tied to certain versions of libraries due to TCK certification. But I hope we can get at least an agreement on some jakarta-commons-* packages on this round. Another question that have been asked many times is about announcements. We have announced our JBoss As _for_ Fedora in the non-Fedora places and it has had a high acceptance. But we'd like to have a way to announce ISV-like external repo-based things _for_ Fedora to the Fedora community as well. If there isn't a mailing list that could accomodate such kind of announcements, would it be possible to create one? A fedora-isv-announce list, for instance? Regards to all, Fernando From bkearney at redhat.com Tue Dec 9 14:29:13 2008 From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:29:13 -0500 Subject: Fedora 11 target In-Reply-To: <493E809F.3000602@redhat.com> References: <20081208203447.GS13128@calliope.phig.org> <493E809F.3000602@redhat.com> Message-ID: <493E80B9.2090209@redhat.com> Fernando Nasser wrote: > Karsten Wade wrote: >> Fedora provides a nice synchronization clock for release features, >> including your software package in Fedora. >> >> The schedule for Fedora 11 is now set: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule >> >> Who is interested in having your software as a feature for Fedora 11? >> >> I've set a goal of trying to get as many ISVs in to Fedora by the next >> release. As a focus, I'm still able to commit some time to helping >> everyone here get problems solved. >> > > Hi, > > We are still very far from being able to build everything in Fedora, so > we still have to keep our external repository _for_ Fedora. > > Furthermore, we all have irreconcilable dependency requirements among > ourselves, so if one of the ISV builds _in_ Fedora will cause all the > others to not run on Fedora anymore. > > > However, we have two goals for Fedora 11: > > 1) Upgrade maven to at least 2.0.8. Deepak Bhole has contributed an > update to the package for 2.0.4 that he created with Ralph Apel's and we > are going to try and bootstrap that into Fedora 11. It is a complex > project, several new dependency packages are required (have to be > submitted, reviewed etc.) but it will allow many things to build in Koji > as maven 2.0.4 does not build the newer versions. > > 2) Reach an agreement with the other ISVs and the Skywalker project on > the version of some very basic libraries, so we can try and build these > on Koji and reduce the external sets. This will also make easier to get > more than one ISV set installed. It is not easy: some ISVs do not have > the means to modify their code and things like the JEE AppServer (JBoss > AS) are strongly tied to certain versions of libraries due to TCK > certification. But I hope we can get at least an agreement on some > jakarta-commons-* packages on this round. What is Skywalker? -- bk From fnasser at redhat.com Tue Dec 9 14:52:21 2008 From: fnasser at redhat.com (Fernando Nasser) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:52:21 -0500 Subject: Fedora 11 target In-Reply-To: <493E80B9.2090209@redhat.com> References: <20081208203447.GS13128@calliope.phig.org> <493E809F.3000602@redhat.com> <493E80B9.2090209@redhat.com> Message-ID: <493E8625.7020700@redhat.com> Bryan Kearney wrote: (...) > > What is Skywalker? > I keep getting this name wrong, so it may be a different name. I mean the Open Source version of RHN. Cheers, Fernando From jesusr at redhat.com Tue Dec 9 16:34:08 2008 From: jesusr at redhat.com (Jesus M. Rodriguez) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:34:08 -0500 Subject: Fedora 11 target In-Reply-To: <493E8625.7020700@redhat.com> References: <20081208203447.GS13128@calliope.phig.org> <493E809F.3000602@redhat.com> <493E80B9.2090209@redhat.com> <493E8625.7020700@redhat.com> Message-ID: <493E9E00.6080907@redhat.com> Fernando Nasser wrote: > Bryan Kearney wrote: > (...) >> What is Skywalker? >> > > I keep getting this name wrong, so it may be a different name. I mean > the Open Source version of RHN. > > Cheers, > Fernando HAHA, Spacewalk :) -- jesus m. rodriguez | jesusr at redhat.com sr. software engineer | irc: zeus rhn satellite & spacewalk | 919.754.4413 (w) rhce # 805008586930012 | 919.623.0080 (c) +-------------------------------------------+ | "Those who cannot learn from history | | are doomed to repeat it." | | -- George Santayana | +-------------------------------------------+ From fnasser at redhat.com Tue Dec 9 16:53:54 2008 From: fnasser at redhat.com (Fernando Nasser) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:53:54 -0500 Subject: Fedora 11 target In-Reply-To: <493E809F.3000602@redhat.com> References: <20081208203447.GS13128@calliope.phig.org> <493E809F.3000602@redhat.com> Message-ID: <493EA2A2.50804@redhat.com> incl. Jesse for comments Fernando Nasser wrote: > Karsten Wade wrote: >> Fedora provides a nice synchronization clock for release features, >> including your software package in Fedora. >> >> The schedule for Fedora 11 is now set: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule >> >> Who is interested in having your software as a feature for Fedora 11? >> >> I've set a goal of trying to get as many ISVs in to Fedora by the next >> release. As a focus, I'm still able to commit some time to helping >> everyone here get problems solved. >> > > Hi, > > We are still very far from being able to build everything in Fedora, so > we still have to keep our external repository _for_ Fedora. > > Furthermore, we all have irreconcilable dependency requirements among > ourselves, so if one of the ISV builds _in_ Fedora will cause all the > others to not run on Fedora anymore. > > > However, we have two goals for Fedora 11: > > 1) Upgrade maven to at least 2.0.8. Deepak Bhole has contributed an > update to the package for 2.0.4 that he created with Ralph Apel's and we > are going to try and bootstrap that into Fedora 11. It is a complex > project, several new dependency packages are required (have to be > submitted, reviewed etc.) but it will allow many things to build in Koji > as maven 2.0.4 does not build the newer versions. > > 2) Reach an agreement with the other ISVs and the Spacewalk project on > the version of some very basic libraries, so we can try and build these > on Koji and reduce the external sets. This will also make easier to get > more than one ISV set installed. It is not easy: some ISVs do not have > the means to modify their code and things like the JEE AppServer (JBoss > AS) are strongly tied to certain versions of libraries due to TCK > certification. But I hope we can get at least an agreement on some > jakarta-commons-* packages on this round. > > > Another question that have been asked many times is about announcements. > We have announced our JBoss As _for_ Fedora in the non-Fedora places > and it has had a high acceptance. But we'd like to have a way to > announce ISV-like external repo-based things _for_ Fedora to the Fedora > community as well. If there isn't a mailing list that could accomodate > such kind of announcements, would it be possible to create one? A > fedora-isv-announce list, for instance? > > > Regards to all, > Fernando > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-isv-sig-list mailing list > Fedora-isv-sig-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-isv-sig-list > From kwade at redhat.com Tue Dec 9 17:27:37 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:27:37 -0800 Subject: Fedora 11 target In-Reply-To: <493E809F.3000602@redhat.com> References: <20081208203447.GS13128@calliope.phig.org> <493E809F.3000602@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20081209172737.GJ9280@calliope.phig.org> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 09:28:47AM -0500, Fernando Nasser wrote: > > Another question that have been asked many times is about announcements. > We have announced our JBoss As _for_ Fedora in the non-Fedora places > and it has had a high acceptance. But we'd like to have a way to > announce ISV-like external repo-based things _for_ Fedora to the Fedora > community as well. If there isn't a mailing list that could accomodate > such kind of announcements, would it be possible to create one? A > fedora-isv-announce list, for instance? Actually, fedora-announce-list should work for this, unless it's strictly a developer-oriented discussion, in which case fedora-devel-announce. These lists are used for similar purposes all the time -- even for repositories that provide encumbered or non-free bits (rpmfusion.org, Omega 10, etc.) - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mefoster at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 12:26:02 2008 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:26:02 +0100 Subject: Swapping java library reviews? Message-ID: Hello all, I'm working on creating a Fedora package for an application written in Java -- JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net) -- which has a dependency on a *lot* of other Java libraries (see http://mef.fedorapeople.org/packages/jabref-dependencies.html). I've put the first bunch of "leaf nodes" up for review, but so far only one of them has been looked at. Karsten Wade suggested that if I came to this list, I might find people who are dealing with similar issues of packaging Java libraries that are prerequisites for other packages. I'm prepared to swap reviews -- particularly of Java packages -- with anyone who might be working on a similar goal. Thanks for any help and suggestions, MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ Informatik 6: Robotics and Embedded Systems, Technische Universit?t M?nchen and ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh From fcrippa at byte-code.com Wed Dec 10 12:37:50 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:37:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: Swapping java library reviews? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2007087329.147391228912670828.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> ----- "Mary Ellen Foster" wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm working on creating a Fedora package for an application written > in Java -- JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net) -- which has a > dependency on a *lot* of other Java libraries (see > http://mef.fedorapeople.org/packages/jabref-dependencies.html). I've > put the first bunch of "leaf nodes" up for review, but so far only > one of them has been looked at. > [...] Hi Mary I and my colleagues are working to make an rpm for Grails (www.grails.org), and obviously it requires tons of .jar dependencies... We really want to have well-done rpms for this package because we have already packaged a very big java web application: Symbolic (www.opensymbolic.org or http://fedorahosted.org/symbolic), full compliant with fedora guide-line, but we need also grails to push it into Koji (grails in needed only to build symbolic, not to run it) and release it on fedora upstream repositories. So maybe you need some package we've made or viceversa... If you'll try to have a look on grails source, you could find what we're working on ;-) Take care Francesco -- Francesco Crippa fcrippa at byte-code.com http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From mefoster at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 12:44:10 2008 From: mefoster at gmail.com (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:44:10 +0100 Subject: Swapping java library reviews? In-Reply-To: <2007087329.147391228912670828.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <2007087329.147391228912670828.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Francesco Crippa wrote: > So maybe you need some package we've made or viceversa... > If you'll try to have a look on grails source, you could find what we're working on ;-) Well, it looks like we'll both need cglib; actually, I've already got a package for that one up for review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469894 Looking at the list of files in grail's "lib" directory, I may have to revise my view of what "a lot" of library dependencies is. Eek! :) I'd be glad to help out with that wherever I can ... MEF -- Mary Ellen Foster -- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ Informatik 6: Robotics and Embedded Systems, Technische Universit?t M?nchen and ICCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh From kwade at redhat.com Wed Dec 10 19:20:21 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:21 -0800 Subject: Swapping java library reviews? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081210192021.GE9280@calliope.phig.org> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 01:26:02PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > Thanks for any help and suggestions, Thought it might be useful to have this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ISV_packages_in_review Add your complete lists there, in sections with bullets, I reckon. As not all the needs of this group is in JARs, I wanted a neutral packages needing review list, but it can transclude or link to other lists. For example, I wouldn't want to pull in the entire Alfresco list. :) I'm calling it 'ISV' because to build this SIG's community, but really, we can consider that to be open to anyone to add or help. The situation with JARs is more common to ISVs, for example, so bringing the focus around here can make faster headway than not. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A > > fedora-isv-announce list, for instance? In the past, various 3rd party repos have announced things via fedora-announce-list. Places such as atrpms and rpmfusion. I wouldn't see a problem with an announcement from jpackage along these lines as well. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From lee.faus at alfresco.com Wed Dec 31 17:12:21 2008 From: lee.faus at alfresco.com (Lee Faus) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:12:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Building a Better Network In-Reply-To: <10804104.206881230743440531.JavaMail.root@unx-d-manc4.tc.ifeltd.com> Message-ID: <25763797.206901230743541627.JavaMail.root@unx-d-manc4.tc.ifeltd.com> Uzi, I wanted to open the lines of communication outside of Alfresco about the discussions of a *CompanyName* Network. I had this discussion about 18 months ago with Rich Friedman, Mark Lugert, Matt Mattox, and some others inside of Red Hat about using Alfresco as the foundation for an Open Source Network to be used by all Open Source companies. Since this time, Red Hat has started opening up the code base that makes up RHN under the code name SpaceWalk on the Fedora Projects. This is meant to be built as a potential replacement for Red Hat Satellite, but it will be some time until this happens. I have created a bullet on the Fedora Hosted site to represent this concept to the SpaceWalk developers: https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/BrainBox. I know that this is not an immediate fit for us, but I am thinking larger scale. I know that JBoss had JBossON, Red Hat has RHN, JasperSoft has theirs and now we are doing it again. There has to be some economy of scale here so we all don't waste our time. I think building us into the SpaceWalk project makes great sense as they currently have a home grown Content Management System that is deeply integrated into Oracle :(. Replacing this with Alfresco would allow for them scale out very quickly. There are also discussions about SpaceWalk integrating JasperReports for Reporting and GroundWork or some other Monitoring tool to replace the custom development being done. Red Hat has the most experience doing this work as they have run their Network for over 6 years now. We should leverage this knowledge and how we scale out with them instead of working against the grain IMVHO. I have included the other Open Source ISVs in this mailing as well as Matt Asay and my old boss at Red Hat, Matt Mattox, who is in charge of ISV development as a whole at Red Hat that I think would be interested in leveraging this for both Commercial and Open Source ISVs. Let me know what you think. Lee Faus Director of Solution Engineering Alfresco lee.faus at alfresco.com From kwade at redhat.com Wed Dec 31 19:15:43 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:15:43 -0800 Subject: ISV Summit Message-ID: <20081231191542.GQ24919@calliope.phig.org> It hadn't occurred to me to specifically invite everyone here to the Fedora Users and Developers Conference (FUDCon) on 8 - 10 January in Boston. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11 One use we have for FUDCon is to meet and work on ISV-specific issues in a mini-ISV summit. It's also a great chance to meet some of the people across the rest of the project who can help you. I'm presuming anyone who isn't already planning on coming will not be there, but Lee just put a bug in my ear about the ISV summit idea, some possibilities are: * FUDCon 11 in January - Great time to get ready for Fedora 11 plans * Virtual summit - Fedora Talk conference room (VoIP) - Gobby for shared document work, IRC for chat - Let's us get plans in place for Fedora 11 while there is still time * Red Hat Summit/JBossWorld in the Summer - Many of folks may be there already - Chance to attract even more contributors/collaborators - Beyond F11, good for F12 planning Many folks are focusing on Fedora 10 and 11 because we can see there is a horizon coming for RHEL 6. This is one reason to put some urgency in getting packages in to the Fedora 11 cycle for maximum impact[1]. Have a Happy New Year, - Karsten [1] For refreshers on why it matters: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ISV_Special_Interest_Group#Why_should_ISVs_care? -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: