have this strange intermittent issue, on two separate occasions, on the same box spanning 2 entire scratch rebuilds of this machine, I can not ping a certain subnet, other than the router. if I restart the network service on the computer having this problem, it all comes back online. I can however during the whole time reach the subnet and computers on it without a problem from any other machine. Any thing? ------------------------------------------- Chris McKeever If you want to reply directly to me, please use cgmckeever--at--prupref---dot---com http://www.prupref.com ---- Prudential Preferred Properties www.prupref.com