<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Andy Green wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid200312192151.17600.fedora@warmcat.com"> <pre wrap="">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 19 December 2003 18:42, Ghod wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I've just seen too many LI.................. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> use GRUB, you'll never see it again :-)</pre> </blockquote> why lilo works just fine. and I'm sure grub has it's pros and cons as well. since I'm old school I'll just stick with lilo <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid200312192151.17600.fedora@warmcat.com"> <pre wrap=""> </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I was offering REAL advice for a NEWBIE.. make a CD copy of the ISO so you have a BACKUP media in case of problems. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> In itself that is good advice, since you will need to boot from CD in case of install disaster. Something else I have done is formatted an old 4GB HDD with ext3 and copied the ISOs to there, using it as a kind of thick DVD to install from. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">that is my point, if you want to run them down the short-cut path.. so be it. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> As I explained at length, if I have important data I swap out the HDD.</pre> </blockquote> not everyone has spare HD's laying around. some might.. of course a tape drive or DVD or even CD could be used to save/store/protect important data as well. (I use all the above) <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid200312192151.17600.fedora@warmcat.com"> <pre wrap=""> </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">it just means you like short-cuts for newbs too. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Redhat put HDD installs in, it exists, people will use it. I used it, it worked fine. That doesn't mean it is failproof, my experience is one more straw in the wind. Since I have other machines I could recover from an install failure. If you only have one machine then paranoia is a good setting as you suggest. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">and installing Linux on a machine without CD-ROM or Floppy.. now THAT must have been a real jewel.. hope it never crashes.. since you would never be able to install ANYTHING back on it. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Not sure where that came from, but my current work is with an Embedded Fedora which boots off a NBD device via PXE -- this motherboard has NO local storage other than the BIOS itself. Yet I can do what I like with its filesystem since its a file on an NBD server. More things on Heaven and Earth.</pre> </blockquote> this is way past newb stuff. yea you can have a diskless workstation sure. and use bootp and 100 other things too, but this is way off the original topic. This also says you have a server and working knowledge of linux to go to that extreme.. if I remember correctly this all started as a newbie asking about upgrading from a HD.. and I just said I hoped he was making CD images! :) </body> </html>