<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> I am a half newbie and i've been istalling redhat from ver. 6 upto 9 and fc1, but mainly boot from cdrom, and i can rawrite to make floppy to boot to install as well , my problem now is I just had a sony laptop that equipped with docking station and both floppy and cdrom were in that docking station which I don't have. For installation of MS XP and other MS OS, I can take the hard drive out from this laptop, use a convertor to convert this tiny laptop type hard drive into a desktop connection and use regular IDE cable to hook up to one of my desktop where CD roms are equipped, then I copy the needed setup elements (such as entire \i386) into the laptop hard drive, and then hook it up back to the sony laptop, start the installation from the laptop and it's done without problem. Without floppy drive and cdrom, to install Red Hat 9 or Fedora, what can I do ? I would appreciate if you could tell me in a little specific way: I've been looking this over the google for more then 3 weeks, most of the mentioned to use loadlin, but unfortunately the proceedure decribed is too difficault for me to understand but could not proceed at all. Seems to me, one of the must steps is copy all the 3 downloaded iso files into the hard drive within a folder, but I don't have a floppy in the laptop! What else do I need to copy into hard drive and use them to start iso install in a laptop without floppy drive and cdrom drive? By the way, I tried the iso hard drive installation in my desktop yesturday and the result is not working ; 1. All FC1 cd1 to cd3 iso files I downloaded and md5 checked ok, and I burnt the into bootable cds, I used these cds intalled sucessfully in my desktop. 2. With same iso files, I mount the cd1 in a virtue cd rom and copy the rawrite, used it to make boot floppy, then in desktop I copy all 3 downloaded iso files into a hard drive (/dev/hdb14). 3. Restarted the desktop and boot up with the floppy made by rawrite, choose "install from hard drive" and direct it to find the image in hdd14 where all 3 iso files are placed. 4. The install was proceeding about a minute and a message displayed something like "The partition you are going to install is beyond 1024 cylinder and may have boot up problem, continue anyway?" and I choose continue, but al of suddent the machine crashed and reboot. 5. Try boot from floppy again, choose install method "install from hard drive" again, this time different errot message "The 3rd cd number of bite is not equal to 1024, you can continue by installation may fail", exact description may vary and I don't remember exactly, and I choose continue and the machine reboot again. In desktop hard drive installation, if I have done everything correctly as decribed above, and the fact is all downloaded iso files I have already used to burn cds and those cds I had also used for FC1 installation - the result is working even during the installation I checked the cd first (at begining of installation recommanded to check all cds at least once). I have to assume this is a bug, if so how do I report to appropriate source? I am new in this list. Thanks. ====================================================================== <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie">tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie</a> wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid200312191527.17349.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie"> <pre wrap="">On Friday 19 December 2003 14:48, Ghod wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">using HD upgrade is fine and dandy.. but "NOT" for newbies!!!! EVER! </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> This is nonsense. I've always installed (from RH-5 or 6) from the hard disk, and never had any problem. (I don't have a CD drive on my Sony C1VFK laptop.) If you boot from the bootdisk floppy you are asked if you want to install from CD or hard disk, and if you choose hard disk you are asked what partition and directory your ISO images are on. The instructions seem to me to be perfectly simple to follow by anybody, newbie or not. In fact my question is the opposite. I don't understand why people go to all the trouble of burning CDs to install Fedora-1 when you might as well install or upgrade from hard disk. I can see the point if you want to install on lots of machines, or maybe if you have no machine running Linux. But most people seem to be running RH-9, in which case it seems to me much simpler to upgrade from hard disk. [Incidentally, I don't have a floppy drive either on my laptop, but have always found it easy enough to abstract the bootdisk from the ISO, by -- in brief -- mount -o loop /windows/Fedora/yarrow-i386-disc1.iso /mnt/cdrom mount -o loop /mnt/cdrom/images/bootdisk.img /mnt/floppy cp -a /mnt/floppy/* /boot/fedora/ and adding a stanza in /etc/grub.conf to boot from this directory.] But that's a different story. My main point is that it's easy and safe to install or upgrade from hard disk. Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> To unsubscribe: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list">http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>