<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Mark Eggers wrote: <blockquote cite="mid1106818904.13463.19.camel@localhost" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Let me see if I can shed a little light on this. I can possibly tell you how to shut things down as well. I use KDE, so your commands may be a bit different. On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 12:45 +0800, Edward Yang wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I am *not* exagerating. Please look at the attached screenshot for detail: 1. I think eggcups is the process for printing. Why it takes up more than 40mb memory? On Windows 2000, the spooler printing service takes up only a little more than 4mb memory and less than 3mb virtual memory. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> This is virtual memory, which if I recall correctly includes all of the shared libraries the program references. The actual physical memory for printing is about 7.8 MB on my machine. Certainly it's not the lightest application in the bunch, but it's by far not the biggest. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">2. And, eggcups belongs to my session. I am not familiar with the terminal concept. I guess if a user logs on thru a dumb terminal, he/she will get his/her own eggcups; and 40mb memory will reduced from the server. Is my guess true? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Again, I doubt that you will use an additional 40 MB. However you probably will use an additional 7.8 MB. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">3. If I 'kill nnn', where nnn is the pid of eggcups, it somehow respawns. How can I stop this? Anyway I don't want printing service right now, I am just learning programming on Linux. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> You can turn off printing for the entire box. In KDE, the menu entry is under System Settings-->Server Settings-->Services. You'll want to turn off cups, cups-config-daemon, and cups-lpd if it is enabled. In general, you can save memory by eliminating unneeded services, much like you would mark services as manual or disabled under Windows. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">4. I don't want xscreensaver, because I am running FC3 inside Microsoft Virtual PC. How to stop it? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> In Gnome, the default desktop, you can disable screen savers under Preferences --> Screensaver </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">5. What is gnome-vfs/esd? Are they a must to for a user session? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I think gnome-vfs is the Gnome virtual file system. This is probably a must if you're running Gnome (which is the default user interface). esd is the Enlightened Sound Daemon. In addition to providing sound support for other Gnome applications, it also provides sounds for alerts and other system functions. If you want to turn off sound alerts, you can do this in Preferences --> Sound </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Please forgive me if my post aroused some kind of holy debate. I come from Windows world, it's inevitable for me to compare Linux/FC with Windows. But I will appreciate very much if someone can help me, instead of just saying 'Only newbies don't understand' or even 'Only morons don't understand'. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Now, about your way of asking questions. As been pointed out by many on the list, your way of asking questions is considered trolling. Here are the reasons. 1. You use a general topic 2. You use inflammatory words (sucks) 3. You've not taken much (if any) time to understand how the Gnome desktop works. 4. Your questions are not questions, but complaints. If you had phrased your query along the following lines, then you might have gotten a better response. I am running Fedora Core 3 as a VM process under a Microsoft Virtual PC. As such, memory is in very short supply. I would like to know how to reduce the memory footprint. a) Can I disable cups? If so, how? b) Can I disable sound? If so, how? c) Can I disable the screen saver? If so, how? d) What other steps can I take to reduce Fedora's memory footprint running in this environment? e) Where can I learn more about 1) The Gnome desktop (which is not the same as Linux or Fedora) 2) Linux in general 3) Programming on Linux (both console and GUI applications) Since some of these answers are easily found via Google, showing that you've at least spent some effort demonstrates good faith. This is an open source environment, and on this list we all contribute freely during our spare time. For example, it's 1:38 AM as I write this. I am writing this because I want to help, and I also want to increase the signal/noise ratio of this mailing list. In return, I want some demonstration from you (the questioner) that you will put at least as much effort into learning about this environment as I have put in writing this message. While I don't expect it, a thank you wouldn't hurt either. ---- /mde/ just my two cents . . . . </pre> </blockquote> Thanks for replying. You can see I thanked everyong for *useful* response. But I want to write response to your post: <pre wrap="">>1. You use a general topic Really? Does 'It takes up too much memory!' a generic topic? >2. You use inflammatory words (sucks) I tend to use this word at bad software. My personal taste. I swear the following statement is true: I see many more inflammatory words in Linux community, but I see none in Windows community in my 7 years of Internet life. >3. You've not taken much (if any) time to understand how the Gnome desktop works. What do you define the word 'newbie'? >4. Your questions are not questions, but complaints. </pre> Okay, you are 50% correct, and 50% wrong. Read my first post carefully - it contains both complaints and questions. </body> </html>