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<big><big><big>The post by the WORST PERSON is a very excellent example
to proove what I say - "Linux community has a dark side".</big></big></big><br>
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Thomas Cameron wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:59:25 +0800, Edward Yang
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:neo_in_matrix@fastmail.fm"><neo_in_matrix@fastmail.fm></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap=""> After getting so many reply from my last post, I finally understand why the
post aroused so much agitation.
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Um, because you're being an asshole, maybe?
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<pre wrap=""> 1. It seems for some people, 'FC3 sucks' is the same as '*Linux* sucks'.
But I am very sorry, I did not mean that. I just meant FC3 sucks or FC3
sucks because it is worse than FC1 based on my personal experience.
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No, you ignoramus - if I showed up in your neighborhood and started
yelling publicly that you and your neighbors and all the work they do
sucks, would you react kindly? I thknk not.
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<pre wrap=""> 2. Some young guys (mostly students) or even not-so-young guys (what the
hell who are they?) like the feel of calling somebody *troll*, and so they
seize every possible chance to show off their *skills* at name calling.
That's a dark side I already know about Linux communitiy. But, please note I
am not saying the *whole* Linux community is bad, I mean a small part of it.
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You are such an idiot. A quick Google search finds just as many
instances of the word "troll" in Windows newsgroups as Linux ones.
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<pre wrap=""> Okay, let me elaborate why I think FC3 sucks or FC3 is worse than FC1. Note
that I did not have experience with FC2.
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Seriously, just stop. No one on the list is taking you seriously.
You're an idiot, and an asshole. Go away.
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<pre wrap=""> 1. Installation. Well, what can I say? It is not worse, but it not any
bettern than FC1. Components selection is still very difficult.
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Yeah, I guess it is if you are ignorant of the way the OS works and
too lazy to learn. If I didn't take the time to learn about how
Windows worked, I would expect it to be counterintuitive, too.
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<pre wrap=""> 2. FC3 could not start into X in Virtual PC. It spews out tons of error
messages complaining something that actually should not have caused its
failure. So I have to download a temporary patch from
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://vpc.visualwin.com/">http://vpc.visualwin.com/</a>. See page
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://vpc.visualwin.com/Notes/FedoraCore.3.Final.html">http://vpc.visualwin.com/Notes/FedoraCore.3.Final.html</a>.
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So what you are saying is that you didn't investigate how to run FC3
in VirtualPC. How is that the fault of the distribution? Sounds like
a failure on your part to perform due dilligence.
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<pre wrap=""> 3. After several times of kernel updating (at least 3), I finally can boot
into X from the so called official kernel provided by FC3.
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So you have a weird environment and you didn't research it. Your
stupidity, not the distribution's.
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<pre wrap=""> 4. It is hopelessly slower than FC1! I could run FC1 with only 128mb memory
and don't feel much sluggishness. I now run FC3 with 164mb memory, but it is
visibly slower than FC1! Application startup time is almost unbearable.
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Hey, dumbass, the 90's called, they want their computers back. As we
can afford more powerful computers for less money, code will gain more
features and therefore require more resources. That's not a bad
thing, you moron. It's up to YOU to decide what features you want and
remove or deactivate the rest.
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<pre wrap=""> 5. I am a newbie on Linux, but I already find a few bugs. For example, in
gnome-termial, if I set DEL to ASCII DEL in the profile settings, it actualy
acts like BACKSPACE. This bug may be specific only to gnome, but since it's
bundled with FC3, so I attribute the problem to FC3. It's quite reasonable.
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No, it's quite stupid. That bug has been documented and discussed ad
nauseum. Your being too stupid or lazy to find out about it doesn't
mean that the distro is bad. And if you don't understand that FC is a
bleeding edge distro and is EXPECTED to uncover bugs and problems,
then you need to go read the very first paragraph at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fedora.redhat.com">http://fedora.redhat.com</a>. YOU need to do some work instead of coming
in here and blaming your ignorance and stupidity on the distro.
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<pre wrap=""> 6. I have not acurate data to prove this, but I feel the system boot up
time is longer than FC1.
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If you don't have accurate data, then you're talking out of your ass.
Shut up. Oh, and see my response to #4 again.
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<pre wrap=""> 7. This is a minor problem - I only installed kernel+gnome, no KDE. Yet it
takes up more than 2gb space. What the hell? A normal Windows 2000
installation usually takes only 1.5gb even with all components selected. I
forgot how much was FC1, but FC3 apparently is not doing better or even
worse.
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You stupid, stupid shit. You're comparing apples to oranges. If
Windows 2000 is so much better, hey, don't let the door hit you in the
ass on the way out, OK?
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<pre wrap=""> 8. I may think of others that attribute to this 'FC3 sucks' topic.
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I can think of pages and pages of stuff to add to an "Edward Yang Sucks" thread.
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<pre wrap=""> Final words - I am not negating Linux.
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Yes, you are. You're spewing half-truths and statements of ignorance
intended to be insulting and derogatory.
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<pre wrap="">Actually I think Linux and Open
Source has a very good future. That's why I am catching the new waves here.
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You wanna play in this arena, then learn how to play nice.
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<pre wrap=""> Thanks.
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Any time.
LW
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