<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Les Mikesell wrote: <blockquote cite="mid1120086334.6028.76.camel@moola.futuresource.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 15:59, Richard Kelsch wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Les, thank you very much for the suggestion. However, I actually think it would be a step backwards for me. Much of what I'm doing is also "bleeding-edge" and I'd doubt some of the software that I need is even contained in the enterprise trees, at least the versions I need. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I'd expect about anything to work in Centos4 that works in FC3. There is a 'centosplus' repository containing some things missing from RHEL4 including a kernel with support for firewire, the filesystems dropped from RHEL, etc, and there are various 3rd party repositories that work with either RHEL or Centos. In most cases you could either use an FC3 rpm or rebuild it from the src rpm if you can't find a native version. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Unfortunately my "push" is probably similar in nature to the push the FC team has. It's the same "push" most everyone else in the Fedora community has. Seriously, by the time I'm ready to shove my PC into my car, I want it to be at as up-to-date as possible. To some that may be a bit "fanboy" but much of what I'm doing is new. I have the freedom to not be locked into a production environment and can experiment and tinker. In this case the experiment failed spectacularly. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> The latest FC version is the right place to work on the project you want for next year - but then it doesn't make sense to complain about the not-quite-ready-for-prime-time parts... And, once it works you'll probably want to load it on something where you can expect updates for a fairly long time. </pre> </blockquote> The problem with the "not-quite-ready-for-prime-time-parts" is that they affect the entire OS as a whole. The C compiler, as you know, affects all of the software installed in the distribution. I want to emphasize, that as a new Linux release, FC4 is a great OS. My only beef is it's lack of legacy support. That's it. I overcame the other small problems and don't find them an obstacle. In fact, with all of the complaints I am reading about in the list, I can't help but wonder if the new compiler might be at the root of the problem. Maybe the code it creates isn't so rock-stable after all. Just an unqualified theory, or course. Rich </body> </html>