<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Thanks for the info, and sorry for not giving a clear picture of the problems. It's a case of too many things going wrong back-to-back with FC4. It takes another computer to figure out which problem is associated with which other problem. My 1st impression when e2fsck reported the bad blocks was that my hard drive was failing. However, the hard drive is partitioned with MS Windows XP. If it was the hard drive problem, then Win XP would also be affected. It's not. Then we come to Logical Volume 1, instead of hda1. I don't know how that works. I suspect that the Logical Volumes are a diversion form the normal record tracking, the same way that Win XP and NT file systems diverted from what was previously normal. IE,with NT, the disk map is maintained in the directory instead of being chained at the end of each block. Anyway, e2fsck reported problems with Logical Volume 1 and was unable to fix it. I would need to know a lot more then I do about the file system to use a disk editor. As for bleeding edge, I have Red Hat 9, and Red Hat even says that everyone should migrate to Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise. The problem with older releases is that a number of Internet bugs are aimed at them. As for testing versions vs stable releases, I understood that FC4 was supposed to have been released as stable. Anyway, I was very happy with FC3. But the updates from the past couple of months have made it as bad as FC4. But you are right. I have the rescue CDs for FC3 and FC4, plus a couple of older Knoppix CDs, along with a couple of SUSE CDs. I can try recovery with these. thanks for pointing this out. This whole thing does bother me because I have considered Fedora Core the best of the available versions of Linux, up until now.... <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Lloyd Hayes Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com">lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com</a> URL: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com">http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com</a> E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 Web Journal: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/">http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/</a> </pre> Craig White wrote: <blockquote cite="mid1123903029.11352.5.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 21:09 -0600, Lloyd Hayes wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I got the bug in my Thunderbird email the other day. Today, I decided </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">to un-install Thunderbird and re-install it using 'Yum Extender' Bad move. Yum Extender froze while doing this. After letting it sit for a half hour, I did a force quit on it. Afterwards I tried loading Synaptic to do the same thing. It would not start. I logged out as a user, intending to log back in as root. I got a small red screen approximate 800x600 pixels in size, and I get a message that it can not load my graphical desktop. I had the line commands only, and most of those are cut off by the outer blue screen. I rebooted. I got the message that my file system was corrupted and Selinux was preventing repairs. It stated that it had disabled selinux. It needed my root password. When I typed in the root password, I got this: :repairing volume 1: It is sitting there waiting for something, but I do not know what. If I simply type in "yes", I see a bunch of odd characters appear on that small red screen, then it goes blank. Nothing appears to be happening with my hard drive. I can really use some help to recover some files here. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> ---- at the :repairing volume 1: prompt... e2fsck -fy /dev/hda1 substitute freely for hda1 for other partitions or logical devices Craig </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> fsck reports too many bad blocks. It attempts to copy them, but I think that it is simply running out of room. I have an 18 GB partition for Win XP and a 10 GB partition for FC4. There was about 2 GB free the last time I looked at the FC4 partition. I have a 2nd older laptop computer running FC3 which has not been updated recently. It works fine. I don't think that I'll update it all. I'm going to give up on FC4. It simply has too many problems... </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">----- you are mixing a number of issues together and not giving/seeing a clear picture. - bad blocks is not a software issue. it is a hard drive issue. if you have bad blocks on a hard drive, you probably need to copy everything off to another hard drive. - FC4, is fairly experimental, reflecting the stated goals of Fedora to be more towards the bleeding edge. If what you want is tested and stable Linux, things like RHEL 4 or CentOS 4 are likely to be more to your liking. if you run 'man e2fsck', you will find things like a '-c' option for more handling of bad block issues Craig </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>