<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On 28 Sep 2006, at 18:25, Rick Stevens wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 16:49 +0100, Greg Frith wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I'm setting up a reasonably old PC with FC5 to use primarily as a test</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">server for web development.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>A few days ago i installed FC5 and spent</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2 days trying to configure a wireless network card.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Having finally</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">compiled the kernel with the additional drivers for the wireless card</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">i got it up and running and everything was fine.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The box was hidden</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">away in a corner (where my partner couldn't see it) and all was good.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">This morning however the hard disk went in the machine, so i had to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">purchase a new disk and start all over again.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">So my present situation:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Not wanting to go through the pane of</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">setting up a wireless card again, i thought I'd save myself a great</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">deal of hassle and put a standard wired ethernet card in.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>So i did, a</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Netgear GA311 which i believe uses the Realtek 8169 chip set.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I'd</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">already checked online and everyone reported this card as working</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">hassle free under fedora.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>But not for me.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>On boot I see the message:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">r8169 device eth0 does not seem to be present, delaying initialisation</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I get the same message if i do ifup eth0.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>ifconfig -a does not list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">eth0.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Using the GUI tool Network Manager the device can be seen under</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">hardware.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">So the network card not working is the first problem, any thoughts</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">gratefully received.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">In order to try and fix this i have downloaded linux drivers from the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Realtek site.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>To install i need the kernel source, so i also</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">downloaded kernel-devel-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5.i686.rpm.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>When i try to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">install this rpm i get:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-> rpm -Uvh kernel-devel-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5.i686.rpm</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">error: cannot create %sourcedir /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES.</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">You must be root to do the "rpm -Uvh" (I'd recommend "rpm -ivh").<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Also</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">note that the "kernel-devel" RPM is NOT the kernel source RPM.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>It is</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">only the kernel headers..and is usually enough to build most 3rd party</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">drivers.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Thank Rick,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>My apologies, I have installed the kernel-devel package, i get the error when trying to install <FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Lucida Grande" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">kernel-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5.src.rpm. I am also doing this as root. So,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Lucida Grande" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Lucida Grande" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">[root@wharfe]: rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5.src.rpm<FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Lucida Grande" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">error: cannot create %sourcedir /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Lucida Grande" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Lucida Grande" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; 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