As I posted on a few other times, I did an update (hard disk images) from FC5 to FC6 on my laptop (x86_64) and it took about 15 hours. Two other updates, again from HD images (X86_64 took Updates need to be smoother if the OS is not going to be supported for more than 6-9 months. <div>On 12/23/06, Jim Douglas <<a href="mailto:jdz99@hotmail.com">jdz99@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> >From: Robin Laing <<a href="mailto:Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca">Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca</a>> >Reply-To: <a href="mailto:Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca">Robin.Laing@drdc-rddc.gc.ca</a>,For users of Fedora ><<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> >To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> >Subject: Re: OS Future now that Fedora Legacy defunct >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:45:11 -0700 > >On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 08:25 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:38:03AM -0800, Les wrote: > > > This will displace windows quite easily especially due to the hassels > > > of getting windows, the support costs, and the licensing fees and so > > > forth that cause windows to be one of the most hated OS's ever >produced. > > > > Advocatus Diaboli time. I really don't think Fedora is a Windows- > > displacement option either at home or in business; and it's not any > > of the technical issues. Simply put, neither home nor business users > > can deal with a six-month replacement cycle that obsoletes their base > > software in a year or so. > > > > We're not just talking about "there's something newer"; we're talking > > about "you stop getting updates and patches." Fedora Legacy mitigated > > that; without legacy updates that at least offer the option of not >having > > to do forced updates every year, I think you're optimistic to see Fedora > > as a Windows-killer. > > > > I had no problems with my last upgrade--but that was one laptop. > > Look at the problems reported on the list with every new release > > of Fedora--and imagine you're in IT, and have to support maybe 4-5 > > variants of workstations, not to mention servers (if you decide to try > > Fedora there); and not just one of each, but maybe dozens, hundreds, > > or even thousands. > > > > Or you're a home user, with one to several machines--but you're NOT > > a tech, just want the computer to balance the checkbook and browse > > the Internet, with one for your spouse and a kid's homework machine. > > Face it-- most such users get the OS with the computer, and throw out >the > > computer and OS when it's time to change. Few home users who were stuck > > with Windows ME or Windows XP Home ever have upgraded (and they usually > > find-- especially the former--that the hardware can't hack the upgrade.) > > So if the OS isn't going to remain patched and stable for the 2-3 years > > or more these people keep their machine, it ain't gonna fly. > > > > So Fedora isn't the Linux Windows Killer. And maybe that's not bad. > > It is a place for the avant-garde to test the edge; problems are >accepted > > as part of the process, and there is community support and individual > > efforts to resolve issues. > > > > $0.02, YMMV. > > -- > >I would love Fedora to become a Windows Killer but that won't happen >with less than a years support for a distro. I put FC4 on my machines >just over a year ago and now I am toast. > >Most of those around work here have just done a yum upgrade to FC6 with >no issues. I am going to try it next week but expect issues as I have >many extra applications installed. Hopefully most have been ported to >FC6 or the FC4 ones work. > >It would be nice if Fedora is going this route to change the upgrade >policy and work as an upgrade instead of suggesting a full install. > >Now I did read an article today that because of the changes, there is >going to be a team to look at how "rpm" can be made better. Better >clean up or working with dependencies would be my first suggestion. >Again this is an issue for the SPEC writers from what I have learned to >make sure they put the correct info into the file. > >I would also like the Fedora team to not mangle the original programs so >much. I would like to be able to download the official Fedora >application or the real official application without many changes. I >look at OpenOffice as an example. > >Lets hope that the support for FC5 goes longer than a year. > >-- >fedora-list mailing list ><a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com </a> >To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> I think they also need to find a way to auto detect settings for applications that are already compiled/installed...and recompile them on the upgrade. ..apache, postfix etc.. 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