<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.12.0"> </HEAD> <BODY> So go ahead and run Ubuntu, and just shut up, will ya. I haven't heard of you complaining about some one holding a gun to your head, and trying to force you to run Fedora. Like I said, I run 5 machines, and each one has a different distro on it. I'll admit, that one of them has Ubuntu loaded on it, but it was because that distro recognized all the hardware that I used in that particular machine. We all know you like Ubuntu, you don't have to keep telling us. Jim On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 22:03 +1000, Res wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Ingemar Nilsson wrote: > Res <<A HREF="mailto:res@ausics.net">res@ausics.net</A>> writes: > >> Really? Thats why Ubuntu will let me do *anything* I want, and that >> means even play mp3's anytime I damned well want without going to >> third party repos, I think I know which distro has respect for my >> freedom, my freedom to do what I want, play what I want, when I want, > > The reason why Fedora does not ship codecs for popular media formats such > as mp3 and mpeg is not ideological, but legal. Those formats are patented > in the United States, and shipping them anyway would expose Fedora and > Fedora's parent company Red Hat to greatly increased legal risks. Microsoft > just felt that risk, beging forced to hand over 1.2 billion dollars after a > court judgement. Also remember that knowingly infringing carries triple > damages. The avg user does not give a shit about the politics of it, they just want to do it! this legal bullshit argument has been had out on this list so many times ive lost count, the end of it is if we are to convert win users to linux, forget fedora, because like it or not, they want to play there mp3's and fedora does not allow that out of the box, remembering most win uses are non technical savvy and wont want to go to hassle of qadding in this repo, adn that repo to geet other stuff their win box currently does by default, like 99% of other linux distros also do by default, if one doesnt do it by default, they look elsewhere, thats the facts, I here it every day in my attempt to convert, so I no longer recommend fedora. -- Cheers Res Let Novell known what you think of their back door deal with the devil. Sign the petition today: <A HREF="http://techp.org/p/1/">http://techp.org/p/1/</A> </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML>