i fully agree with you. but at the moment i have nothing to be careful with because i still don`t know how to get the gone by default. <div>2007/6/9, Nigel Henry <<a href="mailto:cave.dnb@tiscali.fr"> cave.dnb@tiscali.fr</a>>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Saturday 09 June 2007 17:57, Mark wrote: > Hey Eric, > > Your partly right. > > > However, they'd still have to load during bootup, then they'd get removed > > as a final step in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. I think what Mark wanted (Mark, > > please correct me if I'm wrong) is not to load them in the first place, > > so that bootup happens faster. > > that`s what i want indeed. > > I'm far, far away from being any kind of an expert on Linux use of modules, > > > but isn't it true that modules only get loaded if they are needed? So, > > if Mark goes through all the startup services (in chkconfig, or > > system-config-services) and disables all the ones he doesn't want or need > > (which will probably be a lot of them), won't that result in modules not > > getting loaded that are assocuated with the eliminated startup processes? > > That`s partly right. > i did remove all the services that i didn`t want but the loaded module > list is still the same. > i even removed all the modprobe files and it`s still exactly the same. (rm > -rf /etc/modprobe*) (actually moved them to my personal folder.. > /home/mark) > > This is the list of modules that i have: > > [root@localhost ~]# lsmod > > > Module Size Used by > > ipv6 276673 20 > > i915 25793 3 > > drm 78037 4 i915 > > autofs4 24645 2 > > nf_conntrack_ftp 13761 0 > > nf_conntrack_netbios_ns 7105 0 > > nf_conntrack_ipv4 15049 12 > > xt_state 6593 12 > > nf_conntrack 61001 4 > > nf_conntrack_ftp,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_conntrack_ipv4,xt_state > > nfnetlink 10841 2 nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack > > xt_tcpudp 7233 14 > > ipt_REJECT 8641 2 > > iptable_filter 6977 1 > > ip_tables 16389 1 iptable_filter > > x_tables 18757 4 xt_state,xt_tcpudp,ipt_REJECT,ip_tables > > cpufreq_ondemand 11981 1 > > acpi_cpufreq 14281 1 > > dm_multipath 21705 0 > > video 21065 0 > > sbs 19173 0 > > i2c_ec 9281 1 sbs > > button 12113 0 > > dock 13669 0 > > battery 14149 0 > > ac 9413 0 > > lp 15977 0 > > parport 38025 1 lp > > loop 19785 0 > > arc4 6209 2 > > ecb 7489 2 > > blkcipher 10181 1 ecb > > rc80211_simple 8257 1 > > sdhci 21069 0 > > serio_raw 10821 0 > > mmc_core 30661 1 sdhci > > b44 29517 0 > > mii 9409 1 b44 > > iTCO_wdt 14693 0 > > pcspkr 7105 0 > > iTCO_vendor_support 7877 1 iTCO_wdt > > iwl3945 141477 0 > > i2c_i801 12241 0 > > intelfb 38629 0 > > mac80211 136005 2 rc80211_simple,iwl3945 > > cfg80211 12105 1 mac80211 > > i2c_algo_bit 11337 1 intelfb > > i2c_core 24641 4 i2c_ec,i2c_i801,intelfb,i2c_algo_bit > > sr_mod 20197 0 > > cdrom 37217 1 sr_mod > > snd_hda_intel 24281 0 > > snd_hda_codec 202689 1 snd_hda_intel > > snd_pcm 74565 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec > > snd_timer 24773 1 snd_pcm > > snd 53189 4 > > snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer > > soundcore 11553 1 snd > > snd_page_alloc 13769 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm > > joydev 13441 0 > > sg 37213 0 > > dm_snapshot 20709 0 > > dm_zero 6209 0 > > dm_mirror 24277 0 > > dm_mod 57229 9 > > dm_multipath,dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror ata_piix 18757 > > 2 > > ata_generic 12101 0 > > libata 115417 2 ata_piix,ata_generic > > sd_mod 23873 3 > > scsi_mod 137549 4 sr_mod,sg,libata,sd_mod > > ext3 125385 2 > > jbd 59881 1 ext3 > > mbcache 12357 1 ext3 > > ehci_hcd 35405 0 > > ohci_hcd 23749 0 > > uhci_hcd 26833 0 > > [root@localhost ~]# > > Now all the modules that have: "Used By 0" can be thrown away because > nothing is using it. > that`s what i want. i don`t want to load the modules first and unload them > at the end of the boot progress (that doesn`t speed up the boot progress > but slows it down). > > please tell me that it`s possible without recompiling the kernel :) (if > not.. that will take serveral hours) > > any ideas? > > 2007/6/9, Eric <<a href="mailto:spamsink@scoot.netis.com"> spamsink@scoot.netis.com</a>>: I still say that you want to be carefull in removing modules from being loaded. For example the USB modules below arn't being used at the moment. > > ehci_hcd 35405 0 > > ohci_hcd 23749 0 > > uhci_hcd 26833 0 Now you plug something into the USB, and it won't work, because the necessary modules arn't loaded. Again, looking at your soundcard module, as below. snd_hda_intel 24281 0 At the moment it is using nothing, so it seems. I've just looked at my /sbin/lsmod, and my snd-ens1371 was showing a 4. I stopped the Internet radio, and this has now gone to "1". I don't know whats still using the soundcard, but it's sufficient to say that if you remove the soundcard module, and do want sounds, you will no longer have them. btw. I have just restarted Internet radio with Opera, and snd-ens1371 has gone from "1" to "4" again. Some modules may be showing a "0", but when you plugin a USB device, or start some app that uses the soundcard, this scenario may change. Personally I couldn't care less if my OS boots up in 2mins, 5mins, or 10 mins, as long as it boots up. Just my 2� worth Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> </blockquote></div>