Phil Meyer <pmeyer@themeyerfarm.com> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Paul Shaffer wrote: > */ > /* > > FYI, I was using Redhat Linux since V3 as I recall, maybe while > you were still wet behind the ears? I is/was (expired) RHCT, V8, > so don't take kindly being preached to about what you think Fedora > is or is supposed to be, or what any user's expectations are > supposed to be. > Preachy? As apposed to ... And you are not the only >50 year old person around. Personally, my opinion of Linux in general was less than complementary until about 2000. It simply did not compare to main stream UNIX on SUN. > > > OBTW, who did the Fedora project appoint to define what Fedora's > user expectations are? Did I miss that somewhere? > RH: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview > > No, I think you are one of the aforementioned "Fedora faithful," > who wished to somehow characterize recent egregious failures of > basic functionality in a more favorable light. > Faithful? haha Recent? There were serious issues with each Fedora release. > > > I've successfully installed, used and been quite happy with every > Redhat offering since long before they went public, up to and with > the exception of FC7. And I draw the line where I see > self-righeous nerds making this type of banter on what is supposed > to be a user-support list. > So you got lucky before. FC4. Many folks had to force the error register to reset on the bootstrapper by typing something like: linux foobar -- and then proceding with the install. Did you have hardware that just happened to have a zreo in the right place? Many did not. With FC5, the DVD did not have the correct check sum, thus causing many to be concerned about the time and effort they spent on the download. Did you just not check it? Lucky you. With FC6 the kernel on the released distro was a mess with USB and many raid devices. Again, did you just get lucky? With F7, again the kernel is a major issue for allot of hardware. Especially Core Duo and Core 2 Duo based systems. So your luck ran out and this time you are in the pool of users for whom an issue bit hard. Many come here angry, as this thread was jokingly referring to. Anger never solved anything. > > > OBTW, I'm not going away and invite all comers to freely hijack > this thread at will. It needs it. > I am not sure what that means ... If you need to punch someone, my boys are always looking for sparring partners, with or without gloves. Have Fun! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list </BLOCKQUOTE> <div> You obviously missed the point. It's not about what may or may not be wrong with any particular Fedora, Linux, Ubuntu, expectations, users or anything like that. My complaint is with idiots who think it is funny to belittle people of any skill level on a support list. Kinda ruins it for them and doesn't do alot for Fedora's reputation, either.</div> <div> </div> <div>Angry? Me? ;-) Not even. I am having fun. Not responding to the trivial stuff. This may be only the 2nd thread I've responded to in months. The first post I made here months ago was in a similar vein, and drew no attention. Slow day, I guess. Call me a Fedora list vigilante.</div> <hr size=1>Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48518/*http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/;_ylc=X3oDMTE3NWsyMDd2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDY2FyLWZpbmRlcg-- ">Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.</a>