<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Message: 5 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:19:59 +0000 From: Tim Waugh <<a href="mailto:twaugh@redhat.com"> twaugh@redhat.com</a>> Subject: Re: Fedora 7 'issues' (printer) To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1194002399.8852.2.camel@cyberelk.elk"> 1194002399.8852.2.camel@cyberelk.elk</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 11:15 +0900, Michael Hartley wrote: > > Under FC4, it worked ok once I managed to get it installed, but kept > disappearing, until someone from this list advised me how to tweak the > OS to make it work. Not sure what you mean about this. Can you be more specific? Perhaps it's relevant.</blockquote><div> It was quite some time ago, but if you search the list archives for mike40033 samsung, you'll probably find it. By the way, I didn't upgrade to F7, I did a clean install on a new hard disk. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> Under FC7, it worked for a couple of weeks, but now (after a YUM > update) the printer seems to be 'not connected - trying again in 30s' What does 'lpstat -s' say, and what does '/usr/sbin/lpinfo -v' say?</blockquote><div> [hartleym@genesis ~]$ lpstat -s no system default destination device for Samsung: usb://Samsung/ML-1510_700 [hartleym@genesis ~]$ /usr/sbin/lpinfo -v network socket network beh direct hal direct hpfax direct hp network http network ipp network lpd direct parallel:/dev/lp0 direct scsi serial serial:/dev/ttyS0?baud=115200 serial serial:/dev/ttyS1?baud=115200 network smb </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : <a href="https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20071102/33b85658/attachment.bin"> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20071102/33b85658/attachment.bin</a> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:25:16 +0100 From: "Michael Schwendt" < <a href="mailto:mschwendt@gmail.com">mschwendt@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: Yum Dependency problem [Solved] To: "For users of Fedora" <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> > Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:440f31f60711020425w1b34e165i5f724e9291488c7f@mail.gmail.com">440f31f60711020425w1b34e165i5f724e9291488c7f@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 02/11/2007, david walcroft <<a href="mailto:d_j_w46@bigpond.net.au">d_j_w46@bigpond.net.au</a>> wrote: > >>> Package python-reportlab needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not > >>> available. > >>> Package metakit needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not available. > >>> Package PyRTF needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not available. > >>> Package python-sqlite2 needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not available. > >>> Package python-imaging-tk needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not > >>> available. > I have just done another 'yum update' for the third time today and yum > download 87 updates and cleaned up my dependency problem. > I notice that If I wait a couple of days dependency problems tend to > resolve them selves. You are confused. There have not been any huge updates for this. For example, "metakit" (see above quote) for stock Fedora 7 is unchanged since May 23rd and does NOT require python(abi) = 2.4 (which is Fedora Core 6 and older), but python(abi) = 2.5. A simple upgrade to Fedora 7 would have replaced it with the f7 package already. Same applies to python-imaging-tk (... and I haven't checked the others). $ rpm -qpR metakit-2.4.9.6-1.fc7.i386.rpm |grep py python(abi) = 2.5 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:56:48 +0100 From: Bob Marcan <<a href="mailto:bob.marcan@interstudio.homeunix.net">bob.marcan@interstudio.homeunix.net</a>> Subject: Re: send e-mail without use sendmail To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:472B0270.7080000@interstudio.homeunix.net"> 472B0270.7080000@interstudio.homeunix.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Ed Greshko wrote: > Frank Cox wrote: >> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:05:11 -0500 >> Les Mikesell < <a href="mailto:lesmikesell@gmail.com">lesmikesell@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> >>> You must have a real domain name to send email. >> Is there any technical reason (other than "we hate spammers") why email can't >> be sent to an IP address instead of a domain name? >> >> I know that mail sent to <a href="mailto:joeblow@123.456.789.001">joeblow@123.456.789.001</a> doesn't work, but have never >> really understood why... > > It is call "fault tolerance". In general, sending to a single IP address is > has a single point of failure. If that system is down...email doesn't move. > When you send to <a href="http://company.com"> company.com</a> there is what is known as an MX record that > returns all the IP addresses that accept email for <a href="http://company.com">company.com</a> and weights > for the sending side to decided who to sent to first and failing that > second, etc. > > Sending to IP addresses doesn't scale and isn't manageable. > joeblow@[123.456.789.001] does work. -- Bob Marcan, Consultant mailto:<a href="mailto:bob.marcan@snt.si"> bob.marcan@snt.si</a> S&T Slovenija d.d. tel: +386 (1) 5895-300 Leskoskova cesta 6 fax: +386 (1) 5895-202 1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia url: <a href="http://www.snt.si"> http://www.snt.si</a> ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:07:22 +1030 From: Tim <<a href="mailto:ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au">ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au</a> > Subject: Re: Network install FC7 To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1194003442.3138.8.camel@suspishus.lan.cameratim.com"> 1194003442.3138.8.camel@suspishus.lan.cameratim.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain Tim: >> I did a network install of FC7 ages ago, but I can't recall what >> protocol I used. Whichever technique it was, I would have copied the >> files to a directory, I didn't use a loop mount, or serve out the >> ISO. John Summerfield: > You might have copied and then run createrepo. That should work. No, I didn't do anything like that. I just can't remember whether I used HTTP or NFS for the last network install. My install booted from the rescue disc to do a network install with the files from a DVD ISO as files on my hard disc, exactly as copied from it. The copying process would have been from a loop mount, but the actual install wasn't. But anyway, I think that's probably going off on a tangent from the original poster's query about networking installing. I do recall having quite some difficulty the first time I tried to install. I'd put the install files onto another hard drive, and tried to do an install from a local hard drive, and despite it being mounted and readable, the install routine couldn't make use of it. I installed another box by removing the DVD drive from yet another computer. And the last FC7 install was using the rescue CD as the boot drive, and external drive in a USB box with the DVD ISO on it. -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:51:52 -0400 From: Bill Davidsen <<a href="mailto:davidsen@tmr.com">davidsen@tmr.com</a>> Subject: Re: DVD and CD not automounting in F7 To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:472B0F58.50800@tmr.com">472B0F58.50800@tmr.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Andrea Mastellone wrote: > Hi, > > it is about four months that my fedora box does not automount dvd and > cd's. It is a F7, with regular updates. > > The USB sticks and disks correctly automounts. Running lshal -m, I see > that USB devices are detected and mounted, but CD and DVD are not > reported when inserted in the drive (a simple IDE internal DVD/CD writer > in a notebook). > > By googling, there is a number of cases relative both to hald and > autofs, and so on, but no one gave me an hint :( > > Some similar case and suggestion ? Thanks in advance. > Probably you changed the "preferences" in your window manager to turn off automount. Or some update did it for you. This is one of the first things I do, since having the system, WM or hal, checking for new media can create problems with burning. There was a discussion of this on another list, the mode of the burner can get changed, streaming can be interrupted, etc. If you want to enable that behavior, start in Preferences, I don't remember if it's Hardware or Look&Feel, but it's there, something like "mounting of media or such." -- Bill Davidsen <<a href="mailto:davidsen@tmr.com">davidsen@tmr.com</a>> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:53:09 -0400 From: Bill Davidsen <<a href="mailto:davidsen@tmr.com">davidsen@tmr.com</a>> Subject: Re: Network install FC7 To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:472B0FA5.6020704@tmr.com">472B0FA5.6020704@tmr.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kam Leo wrote: > On 11/1/07, Bill Davidsen <<a href="mailto:davidsen@tmr.com">davidsen@tmr.com</a>> wrote: >> Is there a simple trick or a pointer to valid instructions? I can >> install FC8 on the machine just fine, but pulling a pre-release >> distribution over a slow (4Mbit) network is not what I want other than a >> proof of concept. > For NFS install you only need to provide access to the iso file. The > information here, <a href="http://fedoranews.org/dowen/nfsinstall">http://fedoranews.org/dowen/nfsinstall</a> , is a > little dated but the concepts should hold. > The document appears to refer to FC5 and earlier, or maybe FC6, when the install format changed from "many CDs" to "DVD" it looks as if something was lost, like the ability to install from your own local network copy. Thanks for the link, however. -- Bill Davidsen <<a href="mailto:davidsen@tmr.com">davidsen@tmr.com</a>> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:50:14 -0600 From: Karl Larsen <<a href="mailto:k5di@zianet.com">k5di@zianet.com</a>> Subject: Re: Fedora 7 'issues' (microphone) To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:472B0EF6.6080801@zianet.com">472B0EF6.6080801@zianet.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Michael Hartley wrote: > > Hi! > > I'm trying to use Skype beta <a href="http://1.4.0.99">1.4.0.99</a> <<a href="http://1.4.0.99/">http://1.4.0.99/</a>>, under Fedora > 7. My sound setup is : > ALSA driver 1.0.14, with card VIA 8235 and chip Realtek ALC650F. > > Besides the fact that I often have to go to the mixer to set things up > properly, I find that even with Mic Boost (+20db) on, the sound is > just not > loud enough. People at the other end have trouble hearing, unless I talk > very loudly. > > It was ok under Fedora 4. > > Does anyone have any suggestions I could try? > > When you open the Volume control there are two Mixers, and one is the OSS Mixer. Go to recording and click on the mike below the Microphone slider. Now turn up the slider and you should be heard just fine. -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 <a href="http://counter.li.org">http://counter.li.org</a>. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:55:08 -0600 From: Karl Larsen <<a href="mailto:k5di@zianet.com">k5di@zianet.com</a>> Subject: Re: RPM To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com </a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:472B101C.6050902@zianet.com">472B101C.6050902@zianet.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:13 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote: > >> OK. The book Maximum RPM does not even mention rpmbuild. For this >> function I think the early work was done with amanda. I expect most of >> rpmbuild is in amanda but not easy to check. >> > > What does drive backup software (amanda) have to do with RPM? > > It is used in the making of rpm files. I didn't read it with care. But it is in Maximum RPM. -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 <a href="http://counter.li.org">http://counter.li.org</a>. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:02:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike C <<a href="mailto:mike.cohler@gmail.com">mike.cohler@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: Network install FC7 To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com </a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:loom.20071102T120043-82@post.gmane.org">loom.20071102T120043-82@post.gmane.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii One thing that may be very important is to make sure the appropriate ports have access - in other words don't forget to open the firewall as necessary. I have been bitten a few times by forgetting that the firewall can stop things working, not only for nfs but also for wireless cards to work correctly - depending on how you configure your firewall of course! ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:17:06 +0100 From: Andrew Kelly <<a href="mailto:akelly@corisweb.org"> akelly@corisweb.org</a>> Subject: Re: RPM To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1194005826.3091.75.camel@localhost.localdomain"> 1194005826.3091.75.camel@localhost.localdomain</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 05:55 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote: > Tim wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:13 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote: > > > >> OK. The book Maximum RPM does not even mention rpmbuild. For this > >> function I think the early work was done with amanda. I expect most of > >> rpmbuild is in amanda but not easy to check. > >> > > > > What does drive backup software (amanda) have to do with RPM? > > > > > It is used in the making of rpm files. I didn't read it with care. > But it is in Maximum RPM. [BEEEP!] Wrong answer. It is NOT used in the making of rpm files. The Amanda application was used to provide an example of creating a (more complicated) package. The first appearance of "Amanda" (page 276 of the printed book, page 367 of the pdf book) is: "So, without further ado, let's meet amanda..." a statement preceded by the paragraph: "In this chapter, we’ll package a more complex application that will call on most of RPM’s capabilities. We’ll start with a general overview of the application and end with a completed package, just as you would if you were tasked with packaging an application that you’d not seen before." Please, Karl, attempt to be a bit less Authoritative when you are clearly talking through your shirt-sleeve. Andy ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:19:35 -0600 From: Aaron Konstam <<a href="mailto:akonstam@sbcglobal.net">akonstam@sbcglobal.net</a>> Subject: Re: Returning to the OOwrite malfuntion question To: For users of Fedora < <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <1194009575.2847.7.camel@cyrus> Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:23 -0500, Tom Owens wrote: > On Thursday 01 November 2007 04:17:06 pm Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > Well that is interesting. One response agreed with me that it does not > > > work and you say it does. Which leaves me in a quandary. > > > > Then it is bugzilla time. > > I would be more inclined to lean towards "pilot error". I don't know what pilot error is supposed to mean but if it means misuse of OOwrite I disagree. In MS word if you go to printer setup under File and click on Landscape the document becomes Landscape. If openoffice is supposed to mirror MS behavior it should have the same functionality. I am glad to know that Landscape printing is possible but not by the method that should work. That is a bug in my book. -- Aaron Konstam <<a href="mailto:akonstam@sbcglobal.net">akonstam@sbcglobal.net</a>> ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:31:46 +0100 From: <a href="mailto:info@boer-software-en-webservices.nl">info@boer-software-en-webservices.nl</a> Subject: Problem finding devel rpm for procps To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com </a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:472B18B2.6030608@boer-software-en-webservices.nl">472B18B2.6030608@boer-software-en-webservices.nl</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey list, I was trying to compile a program that a friend of mine made, and it requires the library and headers of procps. I could find a number of RPM packages from other distributions, as well as debian packages that also contain the headers, but I have yet to find a fedora RPM that has these.My friend runs debian and can compile this the program just fine. There is a procps-debuginfo package, but it does not have all the header files I need. Another thing I noticed (unsure if it's just my setup though), when I try to compile my program, it does not find libproc. However, when I look in my /lib directory, I can find <a href="http://libproc-3.2.7.so">libproc-3.2.7.so</a>. Symlinking this to /lib/libproc.so does work though. Anyone a solution for this, or do I have to get the files from another distro? (I sure hope not) Regards ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:34:55 -0700 From: Craig White <<a href="mailto:craigwhite@azapple.com">craigwhite@azapple.com</a>> Subject: Re: Network install FC7 To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com </a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1194006895.12175.0.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com">1194006895.12175.0.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 15:55 +1030, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> Which is it, FC 7 or 8? The subject description is different from the > >> message, and which one you're actually doing might be able to pinpoint > >> the problem. > > Craig White : > > solution the same either way. > > I'd have thought so, but I was asking in case there was some bug in the > newest install routine. > > > copy iso to system that has httpd running, loop mount in /var/www/html > > path somewhere...good to go. > > > > mkdir /var/www/html/FC8 > > mount -t iso /tmp/F-8-x86_64-DVD.iso /var/www/html/FC8 > > > > linux method=<a href="http://MY_WEB_SERVER/FC8/disc1"> http://MY_WEB_SERVER/FC8/disc1</a> > > It occurred to me that you could have some SELinux issues from that sort > of thing, if the contexts aren't in place to allow HTTP serving of those > files. > > I did a network install of FC7 ages ago, but I can't recall what > protocol I used. Whichever technique it was, I would have copied the > files to a directory, I didn't use a loop mount, or serve out the ISO. ---- if you serve out as NFS, you don't need to loop mount. You only serve the iso's themselves via NFS Craig ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:37:18 -0500 From: Les Mikesell <<a href="mailto:lesmikesell@gmail.com">lesmikesell@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: send e-mail without use sendmail To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com </a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:472B19FE.6040805@gmail.com">472B19FE.6040805@gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Bob Marcan wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: >> Frank Cox wrote: >>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:05:11 -0500 >>> Les Mikesell <<a href="mailto:lesmikesell@gmail.com">lesmikesell@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>> >>>> You must have a real domain name to send email. >>> Is there any technical reason (other than "we hate spammers") why >>> email can't >>> be sent to an IP address instead of a domain name? >>> >>> I know that mail sent to <a href="mailto:joeblow@123.456.789.001">joeblow@123.456.789.001</a> doesn't work, but >>> have never >>> really understood why... >> >> It is call "fault tolerance". In general, sending to a single IP >> address is >> has a single point of failure. If that system is down...email doesn't >> move. >> When you send to <a href="http://company.com">company.com</a> there is what is known as an MX record that >> returns all the IP addresses that accept email for <a href="http://company.com">company.com</a> and >> weights >> for the sending side to decided who to sent to first and failing that >> second, etc. >> >> Sending to IP addresses doesn't scale and isn't manageable. >> > > joeblow@[123.456.789.001] does work. Well it might with a real IP address... None of the octets would be greater than 255 in a real one - and they don't have leading 0's. -- Les Mikesell <a href="mailto:lesmikesell@gmail.com">lesmikesell@gmail.com</a> ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list </a> End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 45, Issue 13 ******************************************* </blockquote></div>