Dear fedora-list-request@redhat.com wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Dual layer dvd burning (John Summerfield) 2. Re: no OpenGL (solved) (Ric Moore) 3. Re: User specific resolution, where is that saved? (Peter Lauri) 4. Re: OT: are usb flash drives suitable archival media? (Tim) 5. Re: Dual layer dvd burning (Tim) 6. Re: xorg X11 xorg.conf does not support 'Virtual' parameter (Bruno Wolff III) 7. Re: VMware Workstation 6.0.2 on F8: Re-run vmware-config.pl after every reboot (craigni) 8. Re: 3-D graphing software? (Alexander Volovics) 9. Re: Turbo Memory (Tomasz Torcz) 10. Re: twinview f8 (Gilboa Davara) 11. Re: moving evo f7 -> f8? (Gilboa Davara) 12. Re: Dual layer dvd burning (Roberto Malinverni) 13. Re: Execute a command before mounting what's in /etc/fstab - how? (Chris G) 14. Re: xorg X11 xorg.conf does not support 'Virtual' parameter (Dan Sawyer) 15. Re: F8: Mozilla plugins (flash and mplayer) don't work ( Andr? Costa ) 16. Re: F8: Mozilla plugins (flash and mplayer) don't work ( Andr? Costa ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:20:06 +0900 From: John Summerfield <debian@herakles.homelinux.org> Subject: Re: Dual layer dvd burning To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47427C96.2000602@herakles.homelinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > John Summerfield wrote: >> Now you're misunderstanding plain English! > > By golly, you're right I am. What you are saying (that I didn't I feel better now:-) He who laughs last, etc. > understand the first time I read it) was that using this syntax, you > don't actually need to give it an ISO file, any old file will do. Correct[1]. >> That example is from the man page. The fact it contains a prebuilt ISO >> filesystem is immaterial, it's a file and growisofs is just writing a >> file to the DVD, doing no processing and not (AFAIK) verifying it's an >> ISO image. > > To me, that wasn't clear from the man page. I assumed that it actually > required an ISO file and wouldn't work without one. So, I never tried > it without one. Imagine the confusion if it read growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=big.cpio Now, a cpio would be interesting, given that the kernel's initrd is a cpio file these days. [1] One of the radio people has the habit of saying "Correct," in a similar way to others' use of "Absolutely." Some of the others have been catching it, probably unawares. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa@coco.merseine.nu Z1aaaaaaa@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Please do not reply off-list ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:28:57 -0500 From: Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> Subject: Re: no OpenGL (solved) To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1195540137.4978.7.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Content-Type: text/plain On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 20:09 -0500, David C. Chipman wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm sorry I wasn't able to help you out in the end, but > I'm glad things are working for you now. I suppose Ii I tried my nVidia > based card again, that might help..., I've been back to using the > on-board Intel video for a while...). Later, Re-installing the driver overwrote the Mesa supplied /usr/lib/libGL. In that directory do 'ls -la libgl*' you'll spot the linked files which should point to your master libGL file with your version number. You might also spot the now-abandoned libGL mesa master file, it'll be linked by nothing. Mine is libGL.so.100.14.11 which is the version of NVidia that I am using now. Same with your libGLcore. I believe this is the horse that threw ya. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:40:38 +0200 From: "Peter Lauri" <peterlauri@gmail.com> Subject: Re: User specific resolution, where is that saved? To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8ab6097c0711192240n5336bd2y8644be287280049@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I never received this email from the list, maybe it never reached the list. Or maybe some build in function in Gmail to not show emails that I send to a group I belong to. On Nov 19, 2007 11:34 PM, Peter Lauri <peterlauri@gmail.com> wrote: > I use gnome. Where is user account specific display settings > (resolution etc) saved in the file system? > > /Peter > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:28:08 +1030 From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au> Subject: Re: OT: are usb flash drives suitable archival media? To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1195541889.2913.3.camel@gonzales.lan.cameratim.com> Content-Type: text/plain On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 07:58 +0900, John Summerfield wrote: > Clay tablets are the great survivors. ;-) If you need to archive things long term, then you really do need to keep the playback system, as well, and convert to a new storage system from time to time. That means keeping an eye out for when a medium is going to become unfeasible, and convert beforehand. That includes the ability of your own equipment to keep on working, or using someone else's to read your data. e.g. The demise of floppies was evident a number of years ago, anybody who had valuable information on them really needed to move the data to something else a while ago. -- (This box runs FC5, my others run FC4 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:30:37 +1030 From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au> Subject: Re: Dual layer dvd burning To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1195542037.2913.5.camel@gonzales.lan.cameratim.com> Content-Type: text/plain On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 18:26 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > Most DVD ROM drives will *read* DL drives. I think they'd all *have* to, unless they were only ever intended for single-layer data use only. DVD-video has been the biggest user of DVD since it's inception, and double-layer was always a part of its specifications. -- (This box runs FC5, my others run FC4 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:20:56 -0600 From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to> Subject: Re: xorg X11 xorg.conf does not support 'Virtual' parameter To: Dan Sawyer <dansawyer@earthlink.net> Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: <20071120072056.GA30296@wolff.to> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 17:17:59 -0800, Dan Sawyer <dansawyer@earthlink.net> wrote: > With Fedora 8 the Virtual parameter in xorg.conf is no longer honored. > The exact xorg.conf has worked correctly for many releases. Below is a > snippet from xorg.conf: I am using the "virtual" parameter in my xorg.conf file and it seems to be working as expected. Xorg.0.log shows that some mode lines were dropped because of it. > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 16 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Virtual 1600 1200 > Depth 16 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:11:26 +0100 From: craigni <no-reply-gw@fcp.surfsite.org> Subject: Re: VMware Workstation 6.0.2 on F8: Re-run vmware-config.pl after every reboot To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: <18a240b6868728026785583e610f0913@fcp.surfsite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm having the same problem. Interestingly, my /usr/lib/vmware/net-services.sh doesn't have # Determine if SELinux is enabled isSELinuxEnabled() { if [ "`cat /selinux/enforce 2> /dev/null`" = "1" ]; then ... so the patch failed there. It did have if [ ! -e "$vDevice" ]; then mknod -m 600 "$vDevice" c 119 "$vHubNr" fi So I added if [ "`isSELinuxEnabled`" = 'yes' ]; then restorecon "$vDevice" fi But it still is failing and demanding to rerun vmware-config.pl after every reboot (which works, but is annoying) Any ideas? Many thanks, Craig -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=220854&topic_id=47763&forum=10#forumpost220854 If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmaster@fcp.surfsite.org and/or blame craignied@gmail.com. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:27:06 +0100 From: Alexander Volovics <awol@home.nl> Subject: Re: 3-D graphing software? To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20071120082706.GA2972@home.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 01:47:07AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > In an advanced Calculus course, we are dealing with functions with 2 > (and more) variables. Is there any 3-D graphing software for Fedora > available? Something like Kalgebra, but with a bit more functions such > as multiple functions graphed at the same time, asymptote min max and > other significant points, zoom into 3-D graph, graph of derivative and > integral, etc. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. There are a number of tools available for these things under linux. (Though they may not all be able to do everything you mention (easily)). I am partial to R. Was always able to make nice professional graphs (2D,3D) with it. Alexander ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:43:14 +0100 From: Tomasz Torcz <tomek@crocom.com.pl> Subject: Re: Turbo Memory To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1195548194.24597.18.camel@s1.crocom.com.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Dnia 19-11-2007, pon o godzinie 15:16 -0500, Kyle McMartin pisze: > It's basically a mini pci express card that exposes some flash. If it > adds to the cost to include it, I'd opt out unless you plan on dual > booting Vista. (Vista uses it for caching frequently used programs so > you can load them faster, instead of hitting disk access bottlenecks. > iirc Microsoft calls this "ReadyBoost") > If it's just memory available over PCI, it could be used as swap. http://hedera.linuxnews.pl/_news/2002/09/03/_long/1445.html But I don't see the point. Maybe it would be better utilised as ext3/reiserfs/zfs/other fs journal device, similarly to NVRAM cache in storage arrays? Maybe as device for Jens' Axboe fscache? Or for caching HDD using cachefs (or how this is called nowadays)? Adding PCI Express card for swap seems like overkill. -- Tomasz Torcz ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:46:02 +0200 From: Gilboa Davara <gilboad@gmail.com> Subject: Re: twinview f8 To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1195548362.17404.14.camel@gilboa-work-dev.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 19:48 +0100, François Patte wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Gilboa Davara a écrit : > > On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 19:19 +0100, François Patte wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Bonjour, > >> > >> Anyone experienced twinview under f8? > >> > > > > By twinview you mean nVidia twinview? > > Yes. And it is now also working for me but without my gnome config.... > Something in my config, that I borrowed from fc6, blocks the gnome-panel > at login and I cannot do anything. So I have, one more time, to change > my config. Being a KDE user I can't really help you. Sorry. > Why the configs are not fully compatible from one fedora version to > another??? I had some similar problems when I upgraded from fc4 to fc6. AFAIR FC6 shipped with GNOME 2.16 while F8 has GNOME 2.20. A lot of features were added between the two releases... I'd venture and guess that one of these features/bugs broke your Xinerama support. Granted, I have the same /home since F2... but KDE did really change much since ~F4. (Minor 3.5.x releases) Most likely I'll have to rebuild my configuration from scratch once KDE4 is released. > > Thanks for your answer. No problem. -Gilboa ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:51:53 +0200 From: Gilboa Davara <gilboad@gmail.com> Subject: Re: moving evo f7 -> f8? To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1195548713.17404.16.camel@gilboa-work-dev.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 18:48 -0800, Joseph Loo wrote: > On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 12:52 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 08:21 +0000, Morgan Read wrote: > > > Hello Folks > > > > > > I just up'd from f7 to f8. I copied files/directories: > > > 1. ~/.evolution/ > > > 2. ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/ > > > 3. ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution > > > > > > Then logged into my user account, copied them back. > > > > > > Now, I start evo for the first time and I'm presented with the Evo Setup > > > Assistant. Any ideas where I'm going wrong? How do I get evo back up? > > > > > > Many thanks, > > > M. > > > > > > > A short tip: > > I usually keep my /home on a different partition - sharing it across > > distribution (CentOS/RHEL/Fedora) and versions (F7/F8, etc) > > > > - Gilboa > > > > Did you shutdown evolution before you did the copy on both machines? > evolution --force-shutdown > -- Nope... nothing. Just rebooted my F7; installed a fresh copy of F8; start evolution. - Gilboa ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:46:07 +0100 From: "Roberto Malinverni" <roberto.malinverni@dico.coop.it> Subject: Re: Dual layer dvd burning To: <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <001f01c82b5a$2c727a10$ef07320a@MALINVERNI> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > -----Messaggio originale----- > From: "Kevin J. Cummings" <cummings@kjchome.homeip.net> > > While the drives are capable of holding 8GB of data, the filesystem is > *still* not capable of holding a file >= 2GB. This is usually not a > problem when writing video onto these drives as the VOB filesize is < > 2GB anyways. When using them to write backups of large files, games > must be played to get the data to fit. > > -- You can burn files >= 2Gb using UDF, and files >=4Gb using "-allow-limited-size" with growisofs. You need to mount the burned disk with "-t udf". -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:51:18 +0000 From: Chris G <cl@isbd.net> Subject: Re: Execute a command before mounting what's in /etc/fstab - how? To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20071120095118.GA50699@newred> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 11:59:26AM -0800, Michael Eager wrote: > Chris G wrote: >> I have a Freecom network disk which needs the following to be executed >> before I can mount it using an entry in /etc/fstab :- echo 0 > >> /proc/fs/cifs/LinuxExtensionsEnabled >> Is there any neat way I can get this command executed during the boot >> sequence before the entries in /etc/fstab are mounted? > > Drives are mounted in rc.sysinit. You can add your > line before this happens. > ... but it'll get lost on next install, surely there's a "proper" place to do it. -- Chris Green ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:25:30 -0800 From: Dan Sawyer <dansawyer@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: xorg X11 xorg.conf does not support 'Virtual' parameter To: Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to> Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: <4742B61A.4030703@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for the note. The major difference (except for the dropped mode lines messages) in the log files is the system that doesn't work has the following lines: enable montype: 2 (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA_DDC:ddc2" removed. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA_DDC:ddc2" removed. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "VGA_DDC:ddc2" removed. (II) RADEON(0): DDC Type: 3, Detected Monitor Type: 0 (II) RADEON(0): EDID for output VGA-0 (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" removed. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" removed. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device "DVI_DDC:ddc2" removed. (II) RADEON(0): DDC Type: 2, Detected Monitor Type: 0 (II) RADEON(0): Detected Monitor Type: 0 (II) RADEON(0): EDID for output DVI-0 (WW) RADEON(0): DDC2/I2C is not properly initialized The kernel is a custom kernel and is identical for both systems. Do you get DDC2/I2C errors? Dan Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 17:17:59 -0800, > Dan Sawyer <dansawyer@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> With Fedora 8 the Virtual parameter in xorg.conf is no longer honored. >> The exact xorg.conf has worked correctly for many releases. Below is a >> snippet from xorg.conf: >> > > I am using the "virtual" parameter in my xorg.conf file and it seems to > be working as expected. Xorg.0.log shows that some mode lines were dropped > because of it. > > >> Section "Screen" >> Identifier "Screen0" >> Device "Videocard0" >> Monitor "Monitor0" >> DefaultDepth 16 >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Virtual 1600 1200 >> Depth 16 >> Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" >> EndSubSection >> EndSection >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20071120/f7a1b16b/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:02:03 -0200 From: " Andr? Costa " <blueser@gmail.com> Subject: Re: F8: Mozilla plugins (flash and mplayer) don't work To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6d5924370711200302x565c10adn88ab7350107557c3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Christopher, On Nov 19, 2007 9:51 PM, Christopher A. 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