That is some really cool stuff, thanks. Very easy to understand and use - kudos to the developers. It does not seem to track visitors, you can add visitors but there is tracking ability. Such as if the person was contacted and by whom and when. The beta version has bug in it, I know it is beta. I am using the current production release. Cool stuff. Thanks, Jamie <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 1, 2008 6:11 PM, Christopher A. Williams <<a href="mailto:fedoralists@cawllc.com">fedoralists@cawllc.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"> On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 17:57 -0700, Jamie Bohr wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a very simple CRM (Customer Relationship Manager ) > that my church can use to track visitors. I've looked at SugarCRM, > way to complex, good but to complex for their needs. I've Googled and > found a few other but they were all just as complex as SurgarCRM. Any > ideas? I don't want to have to roll my own but will if I have to. </div></div>Might be overkill for what you're looking for, but check out: <a href="http://www.churchdb.org" target="_blank">http://www.churchdb.org</a> I think it has what you need plus a lot more. Other than that, most of the church management software I've found runs only on Windows - and some of it still uses stuff like Foxpro to run. I'd love to find a good, GPL, Linux or LAMP based application that handled everything my church used. I'd vote to switch them in a heartbeat. Cheers, Chris -- ====================== When the solution is simple, God is answering. -- Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> </blockquote></div> -- Jamie Bohr