linux boxes in the local cybercafe in india is not there, 99% of cyber cafe are using windows only. even people don't know anything what's there in the cyber cafe, they have the habbit of saying anything in vain!! <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 8:57 PM, <<a href="mailto:fedora-list-request@redhat.com">fedora-list-request@redhat.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:fedora-list-request@redhat.com">fedora-list-request@redhat.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:fedora-list-owner@redhat.com">fedora-list-owner@redhat.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: A way to use wine to run eprom updates for DVD drives? (stan) 2. re: F9 NFS install fails (Gianluca Cecchi) 3. Re: Mirror bandwidth and user redirection (Patrick O'Callaghan) 4. Re: Xfce xfburn missing? (Wong Kwok-hon) 5. Re: Xfce xfburn missing? (Rahul Sundaram) 6. PPTP VPN (<a href="mailto:tony.chamberlain@lemko.com">tony.chamberlain@lemko.com</a>) 7. Re: Regarding the keylogger in the linux fedora systems (Kevin Martin) 8. Re: F9 NFS install fails (Tim) 9. Re: Selinux and awstats (Claude Jones) 10. Re: Online resizing NTFS & ext3 (Axel Thimm) 11. Re: ifdown. is it really down? (Bruno Wolff III) 12. Re: Dependency resolution failed (Bruno Wolff III) 13. Re: Mirror bandwidth and user redirection (Ed Greshko) 14. Re: Hardware browser?? (Beartooth) 15. Dual Athlon cpu (Mike Chambers) 16. Re: png2txt - (Paul Smith) 17. Re: why all are thinking in that way only? (Bruno Wolff III) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:19:23 -0700 From: stan <<a href="mailto:goedigi89__e@cox.net">goedigi89__e@cox.net</a>> Subject: Re: A way to use wine to run eprom updates for DVD drives? To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4868DD5B.4060106@cox.net">4868DD5B.4060106@cox.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Roberto Malinverni wrote: >> -----Messaggio originale----- >> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:09:15 -0700 >> From: stan <<a href="mailto:goedigi89__e@cox.net">goedigi89__e@cox.net</a>> >> Subject: A way to use wine to run eprom updates for DVD drives? >> >> Hi, >> >> The subject says it all. Is there a way to use wine to >> update the BIOS >> on DVD drives (and other devices)? When I tried it, it just hung the >> process. >> >> Or another way, without using Windows (I don't have any MS OS)? >> > > It depends on the brand of your drives: NEC/OPTIARC can be flashed natively > in Linux > thanks to binflash (it can use both exe and bin files). > Don't have NEC. > In other cases, you have to use something like a "Windows live cd" (I don't > remember the link, but you need a copy of the XP install CD anyway) or a > good old DOS floppy boot disk. > Roberto. > That's what I thought, but wanted to check. :-( Thanks. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:20:03 +0200 From: "Gianluca Cecchi" <<a href="mailto:gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com">gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com</a>> Subject: re: F9 NFS install fails To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:561c252c0806300620y116560ecta6964d37cb50ab37@mail.gmail.com">561c252c0806300620y116560ecta6964d37cb50ab37@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I successfully installed some days ago f9 x86_64 this way on a laptop: - on F9 x86 server I have f9_x86_64.iso file and mount it as a loop device; then I export the mounted path via nfs - on laptop I install f9_x86_64 via nfs. Note that in my case I used an usb key as boot device for the laptop. For doing that I had to use the diskboot.img from f8 and then overwrite kernel and initrd with what provided in boot.iso of f9. I also had to delete the splash image because the new files didn't fit on the size of the f8 media. But the installation went fine. I don't know if you can boot from usb, though.... Gianluca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That's totally logical, but it's wrong for some cases. Here in Venezuela there is much better bandwidth to the US than to anywhere else in South America, so the "same continent" rule is not going to work for us. I suspect the same is true for some other SA countries. Also, for the relatively few people on Internet2 it's always better than Internet1, at least here. I mean Internet2 to anywhere is better than Internet1 to the same city. poc ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:38:21 +0800 From: "Wong Kwok-hon" <<a href="mailto:kwokhon@gmail.com">kwokhon@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: Xfce xfburn missing? To: "For users of Fedora" <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:de611a300806300638k395bea44r1edc72b680da7ada@mail.gmail.com">de611a300806300638k395bea44r1edc72b680da7ada@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So it is crossed ? I meant it used gnome apps... not Xfce itself... On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram <<a href="mailto:sundaram@fedoraproject.org">sundaram@fedoraproject.org</a>> wrote: > Wong Kwok-hon wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I used xfce and feel it is faster but I cannot found the xfburn so I >> cannot burn CD/DVD. >> >> Would you tell me where can I get the xfburn rpm ? > > Xfburn is not in Fedora because it was unreliable. Xfce team uses GnomeBaker > instead. Brasero can also be used as a alternative. > > Rahul > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> > To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:15:49 +0530 From: Rahul Sundaram <<a href="mailto:sundaram@fedoraproject.org">sundaram@fedoraproject.org</a>> Subject: Re: Xfce xfburn missing? To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4868E38D.2080306@fedoraproject.org">4868E38D.2080306@fedoraproject.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Wong Kwok-hon wrote: > So it is crossed ? I meant it used gnome apps... not Xfce itself... Not sure what you mean. Xfburn and gnomebaker just uses GTK. There is nothing desktop environment specific about them. Rahul ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:48:38 +0000 From: <a href="mailto:tony.chamberlain@lemko.com">tony.chamberlain@lemko.com</a> Subject: PPTP VPN To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> Cc: "Brown, Jake" <<a href="mailto:jbrown@intelegra.biz">jbrown@intelegra.biz</a>> Message-ID: <W332371870896741214833718@webmail36> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Fedora user's group: I installed the PPTP VPN on a client to connect via pptpvpn to a server which is running it. I used pptpconfig to config the network. When I connect, the VPN runs fine. I looked in pptpconfig and saw it does a /usr/sbin/pppd call myserver logfd 1 updetach persist (I used "myserver" in this mail instead of the actual name). So I made a file /etc/init.d/pptpvpn where under start) I do the above (along with some checking, etc). This also works nicely, when I but (after chkconfig on) the VPN comes up and I can connect. Problem is, if somehow the pptp process dies, if it is in /etc/init.d it won't start up automatically again (which I need), so instead I transfered to /etc/inittab: vp:35:respawn:/usr/sbin/pppd call myserver logfd 1 updetach persist A "kill -1 1" or reboot will start this, but a ps just shows two processes with that but I can't ping. A few minutes later it shows two processes again but with new PIDs. Then a few minutes later two new processes with the same parameters (there are only 2 at a time). I can't ping anything on the VPN either (and I do add the routes in ip-up.local so from the /etc/rc5.d script it starts up the route). Anyway how can I either modify my script in /etc/init.d (linked to /etc/rc*.d) to respawn in the (unlikely but possible) case the process dies, or modify /etc/inittab to work correctly? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080630/e66115ff/attachment.html" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080630/e66115ff/attachment.html</a> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:56:01 -0500 From: Kevin Martin <<a href="mailto:kevintm@ameritech.net">kevintm@ameritech.net</a>> Subject: Re: Regarding the keylogger in the linux fedora systems To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4868E5F1.1050304@ameritech.net">4868E5F1.1050304@ameritech.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:19 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote: > > Would not a simple: script -a some.log > do the trick re terminal without compromising pw(s) > Have it launched when a console is opened? > > Frank > > > > The individual may also want to log IRC, IM, etc. Even "messaging" in online games might want to be logged...depends on how crafty the kids/spouse/whoever are. K ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:32:52 +0930 From: Tim <<a href="mailto:ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au">ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au</a>> Subject: Re: F9 NFS install fails To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1214834572.4004.1.camel@gonzales.lan.cameratim.com">1214834572.4004.1.camel@gonzales.lan.cameratim.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain Tim: >> Wouldn't a DVD ISO be too large to fit on a FAT drive? I thought >> they had a 2 gig file size limit. Craig White: > mkfs can format up to 32 GB vfat volumes last time I checked. I > believe that Windows can format larger. That's partition sizing, my comment was about file size limits. I can't recall at what point the mickeysoft file system got past that limit. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:37:01 -0400 From: Claude Jones <<a href="mailto:cjones@levitjames.com">cjones@levitjames.com</a>> Subject: Re: Selinux and awstats To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200806301037.01651.cjones@levitjames.com">200806301037.01651.cjones@levitjames.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Mon June 30 2008, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > Well you can remove the emacs back up file. > > /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts.local~ > I did that > Everything looks fine. > > If you execute > > matchpathcon /var/lib/awstats > > Does it report an error now? Seems it does: # matchpathcon /var/lib/awstats /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: Multiple different specifications for /usr/share/awstats/wwwroot/cgi-bin(/.*)? (system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_script_exec_t:s0 and system_u:object_r:httpd_awstats_script_exec_t:s0). /var/lib/awstats system_u:object_r:awstats_var_lib_t -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:55:43 +0300 From: Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm@ATrpms.net> Subject: Re: Online resizing NTFS & ext3 To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <20080630145543.GA3499@victor.nirvana> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 07:48:35PM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Axel Thimm wrote: >> I have a running F9 installation where I want to move some free space >> from the NTFS partition to Fedora's. > > It is important to understand how your disk is configured. (LVM?) > > Please post the output of > > fdisk -l /dev/sda > df > > things like those. I was hoping the solution would be generic, but here is my specific setup: # /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x79b87714 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 192 1536000 27 Unknown Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2 * 192 7488 58609664 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda3 7489 7501 104422+ 83 Linux /dev/sda4 7502 14593 56966490 5 Extended /dev/sda5 7502 14593 56966458+ 8e Linux LVM -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:20:59 -0500 From: Bruno Wolff III <<a href="mailto:bruno@wolff.to">bruno@wolff.to</a>> Subject: Re: ifdown. is it really down? To: g <<a href="mailto:geleem@bellsouth.net">geleem@bellsouth.net</a>> Cc: for users of fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20080630132059.GA27553@wolff.to">20080630132059.GA27553@wolff.to</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 17:14:29 +0000, g <<a href="mailto:geleem@bellsouth.net">geleem@bellsouth.net</a>> wrote: > i am currently using f8 with most of updates install. not sure if ifup/ifdown > is among them. > > i have a growing concern about operation of ifup and ifdown. > > i am noticing that when i 'ifdown eth0' is still see flashing of ethernet led > on a 2wire 2701hg-b dsl modem. > > it was my understanding that using ifup and ifdown that this 2 commands would > bring ethernet connection up and down, but ethernet led on modem is now making > me believe other wise. I don't believe that it is normal to power down the device when ifdown is run. So the device will still flash is traffic is sent to it. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:25:45 -0500 From: Bruno Wolff III <<a href="mailto:bruno@wolff.to">bruno@wolff.to</a>> Subject: Re: Dependency resolution failed To: stan <<a href="mailto:goedigi89__e@cox.net">goedigi89__e@cox.net</a>> Cc: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20080630132545.GB27553@wolff.to">20080630132545.GB27553@wolff.to</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 18:31:35 -0700, stan <<a href="mailto:goedigi89__e@cox.net">goedigi89__e@cox.net</a>> wrote: > Luis Orlindo Tedeschi wrote: >> Folks; I've been trying to update Fedora 9 since last week and I keep >> getting Dependency Resolution Failed. It says Missing Dependency: >> tcl-devel = 1:8.5.1 is needed by package 1:tk-devel: 8.5.1-4.fc9.i386. >> Does anyone have a solution for this? Thanks in advance. >> >> > It is trivial to do the following. (as root) > yum list updates > updates > Edit updates to leave only the packages. Put #! /bin/bash at the top. You don't need to do that any more. Yum will skip the broken packages. (I don't think skip_broken is the default, so you probably want to add that option to /etc/yum.conf .) > When I was using rawhide I automated this with scripts and python > programs (well, more sophisticated than this). There are almost always > dependency errors in rawhide, so you would never get any updates if you > didn't do something like this. Things should be much better now. (THe change happened during the F9 rawhide period.) Only some file conflicts which are detected after the packages to be updated are selected, cause all updates to fail. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:12:45 +0800 From: Ed Greshko <<a href="mailto:Ed.Greshko@greshko.com">Ed.Greshko@greshko.com</a>> Subject: Re: Mirror bandwidth and user redirection To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4868F7ED.4090008@greshko.com">4868F7ED.4090008@greshko.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 23:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: >> The basic selection algorithm for choosing >> the order in which to return mirrors to clients remains the same: >> prefer same netblocks, internet2 in same country if on internet2, same >> country, same continent, then global, in that order. > > That's totally logical, but it's wrong for some cases. Here in Venezuela > there is much better bandwidth to the US than to anywhere else in South > America, so the "same continent" rule is not going to work for us. I > suspect the same is true for some other SA countries. The same is also true for Asia. I would hope that the "same continent" rule has a tad bit more smarts in it. > Also, for the relatively few people on Internet2 it's always better than > Internet1, at least here. I mean Internet2 to anywhere is better than > Internet1 to the same city. > > poc > -- Children begin by loving their parents. After a time they judge them. Rarely, if ever, do they forgive them. -- Oscar Wilde ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:16:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Beartooth <<a href="mailto:Beartooth@swva.net">Beartooth@swva.net</a>> Subject: Re: Hardware browser?? To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:pan.2008.06.30.15.16.22@swva.net">pan.2008.06.30.15.16.22@swva.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:36:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +0000, Beartooth wrote: >> Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had >> two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified. >> >> Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add >> it with yum? Some other way? >> >> > yum install lshw-gui > > should see you sorted. Hmm ... Neat name, impressive command; but is there a way to make it usable by subtechnoids? Can I pipe the -xml or -html options into a browser, for instance? Or something into baobab for it to use as labels? Most recent example : I got the livna display configuration kmod- nvidia stuff, and it helped; but it didn't tell me whether to use the nvidia configurator or the livna one, or both; and the livna page warned me that I might have any of several cards. I'd like to check that last, and tackle it again. One of the old hardware browsers, iirc, would have enabled even me to find out what video card I have. (An electronic friend is kind enough to assemble machines to meet my budget, every year or three; but I never needed to know one video card from another -- till I got this blankety-blank new monitor ...) -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:17:59 -0500 From: Mike Chambers <<a href="mailto:mike@miketc.com">mike@miketc.com</a>> Subject: Dual Athlon cpu To: Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1214839079.20797.11.camel@scrappy.miketc.com">1214839079.20797.11.camel@scrappy.miketc.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain Running dual athlons using the i386 (or 686 depending the package) F9 release (this is an x86_64 system), is there some services that need to be enabled for them to be maximized in their use? Things such as cpuspeed and such need to be on? In other words (and not that knowledgeable in this area), can you even tell if it's being used correctly, and if your just doing small things, such as checking email, browsing, those type things, is it used then as well, or more for when doing things like compiling one program, then doing all the other stuff like normal? Hope I worded my question right LOL -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. <a href="mailto:mikec302@fedoraproject.org">mikec302@fedoraproject.org</a> ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:26:22 +0100 From: "Paul Smith" <<a href="mailto:phhs80@gmail.com">phhs80@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: png2txt - To: "For users of Fedora" <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:6ade6f6c0806300826k3359afe2sa9ed1257ade768d3@mail.gmail.com">6ade6f6c0806300826k3359afe2sa9ed1257ade768d3@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Bob Goodwin USA <<a href="mailto:bobgoodwin@wildblue.net">bobgoodwin@wildblue.net</a>> wrote: > fred smith wrote: >>>>> Is there an F8 application that will convert a .png copy of a text list >>>>> to a text file? >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> png is a picture file and there is no text. >>>> >>>> If you want OCR (optical character recognition - software that scans a >>>> picture for recognizable text and saves the recognized text to a file), >>>> I would suggest tesseract. >>> >>> Thanks, I will look at that. >>> >> >> I believe that Tesseract only understands TIF files, so you will need >> to convert the png before you can OCR them. >> >> > > Yes, I discovered that requirement but now I am stumped by - > > The command line is: > tesseract <image.tif> <output> [-l langid] > > I thought "-l enUS" might work but no go there. > > There's no man page, only a README and that doesn't tell me about the langid > other than it wants it. Without it I get very strange looking text. Unfortunately, the OCR programs working in Linux are not very good yet. In case you have access to Acrobat Professional, use it instead; the results are usually excellent. Paul ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:33:25 -0500 From: Bruno Wolff III <<a href="mailto:bruno@wolff.to">bruno@wolff.to</a>> Subject: Re: why all are thinking in that way only? To: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <<a href="mailto:pocallaghan@gmail.com">pocallaghan@gmail.com</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20080630133325.GC27553@wolff.to">20080630133325.GC27553@wolff.to</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 00:12:45 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan <<a href="mailto:pocallaghan@gmail.com">pocallaghan@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:56 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > when i asked for the keylogger in my system, why people thought of > > illegal > > activities only? it is MINE system and for use only in my system, i am > > asking and further more, like one must have knowledge of viruses and > > then > > only he can create an antivirus, similarly it is for the knowledge of > > keylogger to prevent the thefts > > Because most people associate keyloggers with spying, and you didn't say > why you wanted it. If you had given this perfectly reasonable > explanation in the first place, I doubt anyone would have objected. Right, because if he was planning on installing a keylogger on the linux boxes in the local cybercafe, he would have been sure to tell us that and not make up some story about just using it on his machine to learn how to look for keyloggers other people had installed. ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 52, Issue 260 ******************************************** </blockquote></div>