<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Kevin Martin wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:48761E44.3050501@ameritech.net" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta name="Generator" content="MS Exchange Server version 6.0.6619.12"> <title>Re: F9: Problem with Services tool</title>  > [snip!] Did you run the system-config-services from a terminal or from a gui? If from a terminal, was there no stdout and/or stderr output? It's possible the selinux comment is affecting your ability to run the system-config-services as root. Try disabling selinux temporarily and then running system-config-services. </blockquote> 1) I ran it both from the gui and from the terminal. 2) No stdout nor stderr outputs 3) Disabling or Enabling SeLinux has no effect. I have found that running this program hangs. It leaves running processes as follows: root 11966 0.0 0.0 2044 616 ? S 11:11 0:00 strace -o system.log system-config-services root 11967 0.0 0.2 17084 4400 ? S 11:11 0:00 system-config-services root 11968 0.0 0.0 5988 1300 ? S 11:11 0:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -w system-config-services root 11971 0.0 0.8 85940 18128 ? S 11:11 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/system-config-services I have to kill these processes before I can run it again. I just cannot figure out what is hanging it. I did an strace on the program and saw nothing really significant. I tried to send the attachment but the email system says it is too large - so I cannot add it in this message. Dan </body> </html>