<html>  <head></head> <body>  <DIV></DIV> <DIV>I've upgraded/updated installed packages for Fedora 9. I've removed Xen. I am able to start either KDE or Gnome.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However, individual applications are a hit-or-miss. Very much a miss with either KDE or Gnome. The application will give all indications that it is starting, either the message on the status bar or a flash screen. But, it does not start. The only ones I have been successful to start thus far are Kyum (both), Terminal (Gnome), File Manager (Dolphan in KDE). </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When I shut down in Gnome, the system hangs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hope some one has some ideas.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks.</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message from Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com>: -------------- > some suggestions... > > - that you use keep discussions on the list and not think of me as your > personal support dude. > > - that you suggested that you updated to Fedora 9 but that boot options > are Fedora 8 and have to answer my first question about how you updated > from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 - i.e. the process used because it appears > that it failed. You probably don't realize that when you fail to answer > the first question I asked, I lost a lot of enthusiasm to help. > > - let whatever updates do their thing because it does seem as though > you've got something very unfinished installed there and if it were > completely updated, that seems that would be a good thing. > > - that you learn to read release notes, especially before doing things > like update an installation because sometimes, they are really > important. > > - if after the updates, gnome still fails to give you menus with > applications, someone on the list can tell you how to restore them back > to defaults. > > Craig > > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 00:08 +0000, vohnmaxwell@bellsouth.net wrote: > > > > After some trial and error and gnashing of teeth, I have finally > > gotten to the point where I can bring up 2 separate terminal sessions > > within the Gnome Gui Desktop. However, I am still not able to click > > on applications, such as FireFox or Yum and have it launch within the > > gui desktop. > > > > I will use the terminal sessions to continue updating Fedora 9 (about > > 500 currently). > > > > Could the possible issue with launching the applictions within the > > desk top be related to the boot options? When I boot and press any > > keep to bypass the default (Xen), the options it displays are for > > Fedora 8 not 9. > > > > > > -------------- Original message from Craig White > > <CRAIGWHITE@AZAPPLE.COM>: -------------- > > > > > > > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 13:11 +0000, vohnmaxwell@bellsouth.net > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Here a are the steps I've taken and the results. > > > > > > > > 1) Installed Fedora 9 > > > > Found that Fedora 9 does not support Xen very well. When > > > > loading, it would encounter a (XEN) Xen is relinquishing > > VGA console > > > > message then hang up. When I would bypass XEN and attempt > > to use one > > > > of the listed Fedora versions, which I would have assumed > > would be > > > > Fedora 9, the list would be for versions of Fedora 8. > > After they > > > > would load, the applications would not run. I would click > > on an > > > > application, say Firefox, and it would not load. Nothing > > would > > > > happen. I would seem that Fedora was confused by having > > some parts > > > > perhaps Fedora 9 and others Fedora 8 and not being > > compatable. > > > ---- > > > > > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Virtualization.html > > > > > > "However, the Xen kernel now lacks Dom0 support. An existing > > Xen > > > host/Dom0 must continue to run Fedora 8. Xen Dom0 support > > will be added > > > back in Fedora 10." > > > > > > This was in the release notes for Fedora 9 > > > ---- > > > > 2) I tried the Rescue and was confused as to what/how it > > worked. > > > > if said that it put my system to /mnt/sysimage and that I > > could > > > > use the chroot /mnt/sysimage. Well, I am a GUI kind-of-guy > > and I am > > > > clumbsy using anything in command mode. > > > ---- > > > I would suggest that you become familiar with it because > > that would > > > appear to be necessary to bring your system back online. > > > > > > boot linux rescue > > > command line stuff... > > > > > > chroot /mnt/sysimage > > > yum update # you really need to update > > > yum update # you will probably need to update again because > > > # the first update will probably just add updates.newkey > > > grub-install /dev/sda > > > ---- > > > > 3) when I backed out of the RESCUE and rebooted into one > > of the > > > > Fedora versions (not XEN), it came up with the main screen > > but no > > > > applications, not icons and the title bar at the bootom > > and 2 items > > > > which siad (UNKNOWN). Clicking on these resulted in > > nothing > > > > happening. > > > ---- > > > I'm not sure what your intentions are with Xen but it's not > > going to > > > work right for Fedora 9...the release notes do make note of > > that. > > > ---- > > > > 4) I then attempted to do a reload of Fedora 9 (update an > > existing > > > > release). This results in just the word GRUB appearing in > > the > > > > upper left of an otherwise blank screen. Nothing happens > > after this. > > > ---- > > > try above instructions...should help > > > ---- > > > > It this juncture, I am very concerned. I have photos and > > scanned > > > > documents on the drive and want to pull them off before I > > screw things > > > > up more. > > > ---- > > > sounds as if they might be on one of the Xen domains but how > > would I > > > know that. > > > > > > It might be best to install the Fedora 10 test at this point > > just to get > > > Xen working again...I am just not aware how well it works > > and what is > > > broken. > > > > > > Craig > > > > </BLOCKQUOTE>  </body> </html>