Hi, what's is the proper startup order for vmware2, httpd and samba? I upgraded to F9 and installed vmware 2, after reboot, vmware web manager interface can't be triggered via command vmware. it shows 'can't connected to <a href="https://127.0.0.1:8333">https://127.0.0.1:8333</a> ... " I am sure this is not due to port/firewall issue. After play around to restart httpd, samba and vmware, vmware started normally. My feeling is the starting order matters, but not sure how. thanks for hints Y