<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:06 AM, <<a href="mailto:homburg@tips-q.com">homburg@tips-q.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> 1. I don't want to start a KDE food fight. I suspect that it's a generational thing. In any event, I would think that enough interest exists in the 3.5x "branch" to reconsider including it on the install media. How many people are installing "Sugar?" Again, I am not knocking KDE4. However, it is a radical departure from something that I have been using since RH-9, possibly earlier. 2. The release notes: "This is to support gdm no longer allowing the root user to log in to the graphical desktop." While this is consistent with best practices and can be changed by editing the file in pam.d, it just seems to me that Fedora should not be making this decision for users. Particularly on the first boot into a new system, some find it very advantageous to log in as root. It's really up to the end user to determine their threshold for risk tolerance. -- "Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda" <a href="http://www.tips-Q.com" target="_blank">http://www.tips-Q.com</a> -- fedora-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> Guidelines: <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines</a> </blockquote></div> Well KDE4 I would agree is a radical departure from KDE3.x.y but still KDE4 has revolutionized usability factor and about stability and other factors I guess Fc11 will have KDE 4.2 stable so I don't think people would even consider going to 3.5x but still people can always use older versions of fedora for the love of 3.5. -- <a href="http://www.abhishekrane.com">www.abhishekrane.com</a>