Hope I do this right. I have tried to install Fedora 10 on my system and get white screen My system, ATI 4870X2 Intel Core i7 6 Gig DDR3 1600 Dual 750 Gig WD Black Drives (1) Blu Ray (2) DVDRW 850 Watt Corsair I have been trying for about a month now to get any Linux with the NON Free ATI Drivers installed. I want to try out the current KDE 4.2 and to get all the goodies you need 3D enabled of course. My question is how to get Fedora installed and once installed will the 3 D drivers install? <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:00 PM, <<a href="mailto:fedora-list-request@redhat.com">fedora-list-request@redhat.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:fedora-list-request@redhat.com">fedora-list-request@redhat.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:fedora-list-owner@redhat.com">fedora-list-owner@redhat.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Installation of F 11 (Mike Dwiggins) 2. Re: Installation of F 11 (Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)) 3. internal system error (molly) 4. Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED] (David) 5. Re: install disk (Michael Shelby) 6. Re: Software request (Rahul Sundaram) 7. F10 - pulseaudio not running (Mike Fleetwood) 8. Where is lsof? (Dave Feustel) 9. Re: Where is lsof? (Robert P. J. Day) 10. RE:Where is lsof? (Alan J. Gagne) 11. RE:Where is lsof? (Robert P. J. Day) 12. Re: install disk (Kevin J. Cummings) 13. Re: Where is lsof? (Dave Feustel) 14. Re: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :( (Bruno Wolff III) 15. Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED] (Daniel J Walsh) 16. Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora (Jack Howarth) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 01:05:55 -0700 From: Mike Dwiggins <<a href="mailto:mike@azdwiggins.com">mike@azdwiggins.com</a>> Subject: Re: Installation of F 11 To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:49FEA1E3.9070808@azdwiggins.com">49FEA1E3.9070808@azdwiggins.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: > On 04/05/09 08:21, Mike Dwiggins wrote: > >> Y'all can keep F 11. Let me know when it maybe works! >> > > F11 hasn't been released yet, > oh right it was F11-Preview > "Warning, this is pre-release software", > > If the warning didn't show, > you should file a bug > <a href="http://bugzilla.redhat.com" target="_blank">http://bugzilla.redhat.com</a> > > Frank > > Been there done that, just wanted to share the expeience! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com" target="_blank">www.avg.com</a> > Version: 8.5.323 / Virus Database: 270.12.16/2094 - Release Date: 05/03/09 16:51:00 > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:09:56 +0100 From: "Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)" <<a href="mailto:frankly3d@gmail.com">frankly3d@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: Installation of F 11 To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:49FEA2D4.5040706@gmail.com">49FEA2D4.5040706@gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 04/05/09 09:05, Mike Dwiggins wrote: >> Been there done that, just wanted to share the expeience! > Good, but the user-list isn't the best place for the preview, testing list would probably be the better. <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list</a> Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Still Learning ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:52:55 +0200 From: molly <<a href="mailto:no-reply-gw@fcp.surfsite.org">no-reply-gw@fcp.surfsite.org</a>> Subject: internal system error To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:61ca44df71d2ccdf8a567b70b6da07ca@fcp.surfsite.org">61ca44df71d2ccdf8a567b70b6da07ca@fcp.surfsite.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lately I've been getting very frequently (let's say every quarter of an hour) a warning about an internal system error, specifically a Package Manager error. In detail: Error Type: Error Value: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 2316, in main() File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 2313, in main backend.dispatcher(sys.argv[1:]) File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/packagekit/backend.py, line 600, in dispatcher self.dispatch_command(args[0], args[1:]) File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/packagekit/backend.py, line 508, in dispatch_command self.get_updates(filters) File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 1769, in get_updates self._check_init() File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 1996, in _check_init self.yumbase.repos.doSetup() File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/repos.py, line 71, in doSetup self.ayum.plugins.run('postreposetup') File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 178, in run func(conduitcls(self, self.base, conf, **kwargs)) File : /usr/lib/yum-plugins/rpm-warm-cache.py, line 32, in postreposetup_hook cmd = commands[0] Does anybody know what I should do to fix it? Thanks in advance, molly -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal <a href="https://fcp.surfsite.org" target="_blank">https://fcp.surfsite.org</a> <a href="https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=342609&topic_id=70685&forum=10#forumpost342609" target="_blank">https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=342609&topic_id=70685&forum=10#forumpost342609</a> If you think, this is spam, please report this to <a href="mailto:webmaster@fcp.surfsite.org">webmaster@fcp.surfsite.org</a> and/or blame <a href="mailto:psalviato@gmail.com">psalviato@gmail.com</a>. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:19:32 +1000 From: David <<a href="mailto:bouncingcats@gmail.com">bouncingcats@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED] To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:974cfff50905040219x3f2dffdct73269970e82bd283@mail.gmail.com">974cfff50905040219x3f2dffdct73269970e82bd283@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [david@kablamm ~]$ cat /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts | grep mount /etc/rc.d/init.d/autofs -- system_u:object_r:automount_script_exec_t:s0 /bin/mount.* -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 /bin/umount.* -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 /sbin/mount.* -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 /sbin/umount.* -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 /var/run/autofs.* system_u:object_r:automount_var_run_t:s0 /var/run/pam_mount(/.*)? system_u:object_r:pam_var_run_t:s0 /usr/bin/smbmnt -- system_u:object_r:smbmount_exec_t:s0 /bin/fusermount -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 /usr/bin/smbmount -- system_u:object_r:smbmount_exec_t:s0 /usr/bin/fusermount -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 /usr/sbin/automount -- system_u:object_r:automount_exec_t:s0 /usr/sbin/rpc\.mountd -- system_u:object_r:nfsd_exec_t:s0 /etc/apm/event\.d/autofs -- system_u:object_r:automount_exec_t:s0 [root@kablamm david]# chcon -t mount_exec_t /HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso Appears to be [SOLVED] ... off for a fizzy drink :-) If I got this wrong, please comment. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 02:31:35 -0700 From: Michael Shelby <<a href="mailto:tekaryace@gmail.com">tekaryace@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: install disk To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:845a99660905040231n20b922brc35ac256f23ae344@mail.gmail.com">845a99660905040231n20b922brc35ac256f23ae344@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I got fedora 11 in easy, i am glad you said something about it. I am playing around with it now, I needed 64 bit so I could put all my ram to work. It says it is a preveiw, will I have to reinstall later or can I just upgrade when the final version comes out. I swear last Q&A and thanks again. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's at > > <a href="http://live.gnome.org/gnome-format" target="_blank">http://live.gnome.org/gnome-format</a> -- and there are .debs there, but > no .rpms. Here, you go <a href="http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1335062" target="_blank">http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1335062</a> I need to put this up for review but you can pick it up meanwhile. Let me know if you find any issues. Rahul ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:05:53 +0100 From: Mike Fleetwood <<a href="mailto:mike.fleetwood@googlemail.com">mike.fleetwood@googlemail.com</a>> Subject: F10 - pulseaudio not running To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:fc5ef2e00905040505q298a1783sa3d7b2285357b5a@mail.gmail.com">fc5ef2e00905040505q298a1783sa3d7b2285357b5a@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, On my work Fedora 10 desktop (upgraded directly from F8) pulseaudio doesn't run and I don't know how to fix it. On my home Fedora 10 desktop (upgraded to F9 then F10) pulseaudio runs OK. As a workaround I have run "chmod o+rw /dev/snd/*" to allow Audacious audio player as non-root user access to ALSA kernel audio devices to be able to play music. Help troubleshooting pulseaudio appreciated. Attempting to start pulseaudio manually ... [mfleetwo@mfleetwo3 ~]$ pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE. I: caps.c: Dropping root privileges. I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE. [WARN 24009] polkit-session.c:144:polkit_session_set_uid(): session != NULL Not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace [mfleetwo@mfleetwo3 ~]$ echo $? 1 [mfleetwo@mfleetwo3 ~]$ ps -ef | fgrep pulseaudio mfleetwo 24102 22684 0 12:40 pts/0 00:00:00 fgrep pulseaudio Thanks in advance, Mike ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:49:06 -0400 From: Dave Feustel <<a href="mailto:dfeustel@mindspring.com">dfeustel@mindspring.com</a>> Subject: Where is lsof? To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200905041349.n44Dn6cL009470@mx1.redhat.com">200905041349.n44Dn6cL009470@mx1.redhat.com</a>> Man lsof produces a man page, but the command itself is not found. Where is it in F9? Thanks. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:51:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert P. J. Day" <<a href="mailto:rpjday@crashcourse.ca">rpjday@crashcourse.ca</a>> Subject: Re: Where is lsof? To: <a href="mailto:dfeustel@mindspring.com">dfeustel@mindspring.com</a>, "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905040949520.25203@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 May 2009, Dave Feustel wrote: > Man lsof produces a man page, but the command itself is not found. > Where is it in F9? on my system, it's in /usr/sbin/lsof. i'm guessing you don't have /usr/sbin as part of your regular search path. a good way to track down a command is, if the command also happens to come with the package of the same name, then list the files in the package: $ rpm -ql lsof /usr/sbin/lsof ... rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: <a href="http://crashcourse.ca" target="_blank">http://crashcourse.ca</a> Linked In: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday</a> Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/rpjday" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/rpjday</a> ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:52:59 -0400 From: "Alan J. Gagne" <<a href="mailto:alanjgagne@gmail.com">alanjgagne@gmail.com</a>> Subject: RE:Where is lsof? To: For users of Fedora <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:49FEF33B.80003@gmail.com">49FEF33B.80003@gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Where is it in F9? > > ]# yum info lsof Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages Name : lsof Arch : i386 Version : 4.80 Release : 2.fc10 Size : 867 k Repo : installed Summary : A utility which lists open files on a Linux/UNIX system URL : <a href="ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof" target="_blank">ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof</a> License : zlib Description: Lsof stands for LiSt Open Files, and it does just that: it lists : information about files that are open by the processes running on a : UNIX system. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:57:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert P. J. Day" <<a href="mailto:rpjday@crashcourse.ca">rpjday@crashcourse.ca</a>> Subject: RE:Where is lsof? To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905040956060.25255@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 May 2009, Alan J. Gagne wrote: > ]# yum info lsof > Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit > Installed Packages > Name : lsof > Arch : i386 > Version : 4.80 > Release : 2.fc10 > Size : 867 k > Repo : installed > Summary : A utility which lists open files on a Linux/UNIX system > URL : <a href="ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof" target="_blank">ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof</a> > License : zlib > Description: Lsof stands for LiSt Open Files, and it does just that: it lists > : information about files that are open by the processes running on > a > : UNIX system. > i could also have pointed out that, since the original poster claimed that the man page existed, then the package was almost certainly installed and it was nothing more than a search path issue. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: <a href="http://crashcourse.ca" target="_blank">http://crashcourse.ca</a> Linked In: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday</a> Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/rpjday" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/rpjday</a> ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:04:16 -0400 From: "Kevin J. Cummings" <<a href="mailto:cummings@kjchome.homeip.net">cummings@kjchome.homeip.net</a>> Subject: Re: install disk To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:49FEF5E0.2000309@kjchome.homeip.net">49FEF5E0.2000309@kjchome.homeip.net</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Michael Shelby wrote: > I got fedora 11 in easy, i am glad you said something about it. I am > playing around with it now, I needed 64 bit so I could put all my ram to > work. It says it is a preveiw, will I have to reinstall later or can I > just upgrade when the final version comes out. I swear last Q&A and > thanks again. No. If you install the preview, your repos should be pointing to Rawhide. At some point during the preview, they will change and point to the new F11 repos. When F11 becomes released, you will no longer be on rawhide, but on F11. At, least, that's the way I understand it will work. My F8 machine has started to run pre-upgrade, and is waiting for its next reboot to join the F11 party (I just have to wait until it is convenient for me). -- Kevin J. Cummings <a href="mailto:kjchome@rcn.com">kjchome@rcn.com</a> <a href="mailto:cummings@kjchome.homeip.net">cummings@kjchome.homeip.net</a> <a href="mailto:cummings@kjc386.framingham.ma.us">cummings@kjc386.framingham.ma.us</a> Registered Linux User #1232 (<a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">http://counter.li.org</a>) ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:19:40 -0400 From: Dave Feustel <<a href="mailto:dfeustel@mindspring.com">dfeustel@mindspring.com</a>> Subject: Re: Where is lsof? To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200905041419.n44EJeCP029624@mx1.redhat.com">200905041419.n44EJeCP029624@mx1.redhat.com</a>> Thanks All for the info. I fixed my search path. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:58:20 -0500 From: Bruno Wolff III <<a href="mailto:bruno@wolff.to">bruno@wolff.to</a>> Subject: Re: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :( To: Peter Robinson <<a href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a>> Cc: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <<a href="mailto:fedora-test-list@redhat.com">fedora-test-list@redhat.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20090504145820.GB7834@wolff.to">20090504145820.GB7834@wolff.to</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 15:15:24 +0100, Peter Robinson <<a href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > I agree the test days have helped but its concerning that I still > can't do an install with custom partitions with the preview release. > And there doesn't seem to be a lot of traction on the bug to fix it > before release. Have you tried using a boot.iso image to do a network install? There were a lot of bugs addressed in anaconda-11.5.0.48-1 (-2 is now available) since the preview image. ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:20:56 -0400 From: Daniel J Walsh <<a href="mailto:dwalsh@redhat.com">dwalsh@redhat.com</a>> Subject: Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED] To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <<a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:49FF07D8.7010607@redhat.com">49FF07D8.7010607@redhat.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 05/04/2009 05:19 AM, David wrote: > [david@kablamm ~]$ cat > /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts | grep mount > /etc/rc.d/init.d/autofs -- system_u:object_r:automount_script_exec_t:s0 > /bin/mount.* -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 > /bin/umount.* -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 > /sbin/mount.* -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 > /sbin/umount.* -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 > /var/run/autofs.* system_u:object_r:automount_var_run_t:s0 > /var/run/pam_mount(/.*)? system_u:object_r:pam_var_run_t:s0 > /usr/bin/smbmnt -- system_u:object_r:smbmount_exec_t:s0 > /bin/fusermount -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 > /usr/bin/smbmount -- system_u:object_r:smbmount_exec_t:s0 > /usr/bin/fusermount -- system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0 > /usr/sbin/automount -- system_u:object_r:automount_exec_t:s0 > /usr/sbin/rpc\.mountd -- system_u:object_r:nfsd_exec_t:s0 > /etc/apm/event\.d/autofs -- system_u:object_r:automount_exec_t:s0 > > [root@kablamm david]# chcon -t mount_exec_t > /HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso > > Appears to be [SOLVED] ... off for a fizzy drink :-) > > If I got this wrong, please comment. > What OS Are you running? What policy version? ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:24:02 -0400 From: Jack Howarth <<a href="mailto:howarth@bromo.med.uc.edu">howarth@bromo.med.uc.edu</a>> Subject: Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20090504152402.GA6607@bromo.med.uc.edu">20090504152402.GA6607@bromo.med.uc.edu</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kevin, Our experience here with x86_64 Fedora 10 linux and the radeon drivers on a couple machines with Radeon X1650 Pro cards has been very uneven. One of the boxes is very fragile to spontaneous reboots when running the free drivers and using UCSF Chimera to work with MD trajectories. The other box still has a habit of blanking the screen for minutes at time despite having the nomodeset flag passed to the kernel. I am afraid things will only get worse under Fedora 11. So far, testing on a MacBook Pro with X1600 graphics, I find that pymol still renders outside of its windows. While I appreciate the aims of these changes to X11 and the free drivers, the problem is that Fedora has become destablized. It is really exposing the limitations of a monolithic kernel when the graphics drivers keep taking down the entire box. Jack ps We run a large amount of OpenGL software (free and commercial) and have found the non-free drivers to be more compatible in general. Hopefully this will improve over time. ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 63, Issue 16 ******************************************* </blockquote></div> -- Rob Campbell MCSA, Comp TIA Security+