Craig responded: you didn't post the whole grub.conf so it's not possible to compare it to the entry for FC5 Obviously we now know you have 2 hard disks so it probably would be helpful to show output of grub.conf fdisk -l /dev/sda fdisk -l /dev/sdb yes, if you remove 'rhgb quiet' entries from grub, you would see more debugging information on screen but you can do that temporarily at boot time by 'editing' the grub entries at boot time or I think pressing the 'ESC' key while starting up. Craig ------ jbyers: Craig, thanks for response. I think we are miscommunicating on some points. I did post the whole grub.conf, this is from f10 install, not my fc5. I explained I had two disks, most carefully after Frank asked me to more clearly explain: f10 on sda1, fc5 on sdb6. but I went on to say I was now trying to divorce my f10 install from anything to do with fc5, so using knoppixcd I did grub root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) so I am no longer using the fc5 grub.conf to boot f10: from my experience that is more prone to "Error2 Bad file or directory" which i no longer see using f10 grub.conf. If you think it would be useful anyway I will show it here along w fdisk. from fc5 grub.conf stanza for fc5, stanza for f10 title fc5copy (2.6.17-1.2174_FC5) sdb6 root (hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 ro root=/dev/sdb6 ## initrd-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5.img initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5.devsdb6.img title Fedora (2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686) dvd scsi_mod.scan=sync root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=449a78aa-d4d5-4e91- bf9c-5833d7218c8f rhgb quiet scsi_mod.scan=sync initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img [root@bootp ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 2676 21494938+ 83 Linux /dev/sda2 2677 3163 3911827+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 3164 4462 10434217+ 83 Linux [root@bootp ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 36.7 GB, 36703934464 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4462 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sdb2 14 268 2048287+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdb3 269 281 104422+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb4 282 4462 33583882+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdb5 282 1301 8193118+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb6 1302 2321 8193118+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb7 2322 4462 17197551 83 Linux [root@bootp ~]# I will experiment with editing grub entries at boot time, thanks for suggestion. Jack