>>selecting the norhgbquiet stanza >>gives me a long list of boot msgs, lasting longer than seen before >>and it appears to quit >>starting X server >>screen then goes blank >>does this help narrow down what is wrong? >>Jack ------ Craig responded >not really... >Comment the line that says hiddenmenu (add # in front) and you will see >the choices thank you, idid not know that norhgbquiet is not a valid option...simply remove the entire thing (the >words no, rhgb and quiet) I did not use norhgbquiet as an option, just as a phrase in title I removed all of "rhgb quiet" for this stanza > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >/dev/sda1 * 1 2676 21494938+ 83 Linux >which makes /dev/sda1 way larger than just a /boot volume so I'm sort of >confused what you actually have there. sda1 is the entire f10 / , no separate /boot partition, is that a problem? I trying to not use LVM >If after booting Fedora 5, you do something like this as root... >mkdir /mnt/sda1 >mkdir /mnt/sda3 >mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 >mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3 >I'd be interested to know what you got as a result of these commands... >ls -l /mnt/sda1 >ls -l /mnt/sda3 sda3 is being used for another ancient rh8 linux for a legacy app and should be playing no role in my problems here booted into fc5 I have sda1 mounted on /f10liv root@bootp ~]# mount /dev/sdb6 on / type ext3 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) /dev/sda1 on /f10liv type ext3 (rw) ... [root@bootp ~]# ls -l /f10liv total 116 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 05:17 bin drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 May 3 05:08 boot drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 04:58 dev drwxr-xr-x 115 root root 12288 May 4 07:22 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 home drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 12288 May 3 05:17 lib drwx------ 2 root root 16384 May 3 04:56 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 media drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 mnt drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 opt drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 04:56 proc drwxr-x--- 5 root root 4096 May 3 08:25 root drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 May 3 05:17 sbin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 04:58 selinux drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 2008 srv drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 04:56 sys drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 May 4 07:23 tmp drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 May 3 05:03 usr drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 May 3 05:19 var [root@bootp ~]# >and I'm gathering that you must be using 36 GB SCSI disks because on a >Fedora 5 boot, if these were not scsi disks, they would likely >be /dev/hda|/dev/hdb I explicitly said they are scsi disks in one of my responses and yes they are 36gb Again, does using scsi disks mean i have special requirements? Jack