<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:p="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" xmlns:a="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" xmlns:ss="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:c="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" xmlns:odc="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" xmlns:oa="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:q="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:rtc="http://microsoft.com/officenet/conferencing" xmlns:D="DAV:" xmlns:Repl="http://schemas.microsoft.com/repl/" xmlns:mt="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/meetings/" xmlns:x2="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" xmlns:ppda="http://www.passport.com/NameSpace.xsd" xmlns:ois="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" xmlns:dir="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" xmlns:ds="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:dsp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" xmlns:udc="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:sub="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/" xmlns:ec="http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" xmlns:sp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" xmlns:sps="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:udcs="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/soap" xmlns:udcxf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" xmlns:udcp2p="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/parttopart" xmlns:wf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" xmlns:dsss="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig-setup" xmlns:dssi="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig" xmlns:mdssi="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/digital-signature" xmlns:mver="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mrels="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/relationships" xmlns:spwp="http://microsoft.com/sharepoint/webpartpages" xmlns:ex12t="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types" xmlns:ex12m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages" xmlns:pptsl="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/SlideLibrary/" xmlns:spsl="http://microsoft.com/webservices/SharePointPortalServer/PublishedLinksService" xmlns:Z="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" xmlns:st="" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","serif"; color:#1F497D'>Crossover office has made a lot of progress recently, I use it to run Office 2007 and it is near rock solid. It never crashes my machine entirely, but sometimes when working with large files and in Outlook it will restart the application.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","serif"; color:#1F497D'>For regular everyday use, OpenOffice is more than enough, I just use it in the corporate environment so I need Outlook (although Evolution has a new MAPI connector in F11 so I will play with that too).<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","serif"; color:#1F497D'>Tait<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'> <div> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steven F. LeBrun<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:56 PM<br> <b>To:</b> fedora-list@redhat.com<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Windows vs Linux<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal>Tait Clarridge wrote: <o:p></o:p></p> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: <a href="mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com">fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com</a> [<a href="mailto:fedora-list">mailto:fedora-list</a>-<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:bounces@redhat.com">bounces@redhat.com</a>] On Behalf Of gmspro<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:49 AM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Windows vs Linux<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Hi,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Some people say that there are no alternative applications in linux for<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>these:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>1.Microsoft office<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote> <pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I happily use Microsoft Office on Linux, OpenOffice+Evolution is coming close these days too.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Check out Crossover Office (google search it) to see what it is all about. It is basically WINE made easy.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>2.Microsoft Visual Studio(for .net application)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote> <pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>No answer here... except that MS sucks?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>3.Some games can't be run in linux like Fifa 2008,Cricket<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote> <pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Again, Crossover Office or Crossover Games might have support for these.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>4.Latest Adobe application such as Adobe Flash,Dreamweaver etc<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote> <pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>This is true, but I am just as happy with GIMP (as are a lot of people who use it for photo editing). Inkscape is a pretty good alternative for Adobe Illustrator.. but again Crossover Office or even WINE should be able to run CS2 versions.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>I think,Linux will overcome these things someday.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>But there is one thing about linux is that "NO VIRUS IN LINUX".<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>What would you say?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote> <pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>That there is no possible way to say that ANY operating system cannot get a virus, it is a surefire way to get one.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Although there are lots of viruses for Windows out there, some exploits still exist across every platform.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Best bet is to get virus protection, no matter what OS you have.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Do not take alcohol, it is harmful to health and mind.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>fedora-list mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Guidelines:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote> <pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I have been quite happy with OpenOffice 3.0 as a substitute for Microsoft Office. While OpenOffice may not have all the features of Microsoft Office, I never used all of the features of Microsoft Office. The one piece that I have not explored yet is OpenOffice Base, when used with MySQL (or other databases) is a replacement for Microsoft Access. Base lets you build reports and forms; I just have not had the time yet to master it.<br> <br> I used Crossover to run Microsoft Office on Redhat 7.0 (many, many moons ago) and was not happy with it. Will the Office programs ran just like they did in Windows, they made Linux also run like Windows -- needing to be rebooted several time a day. Again, that was back in 2002; Crossover and Wine have gone through major improvements so I would be very much surprise to see that behavior still existing today.<br> <br> The Mono project comes with Fedora and its IDE is MonoDevelop. The Mono project allows you to develop and run C# and .NET applications. There is also DotGnu for C# and .NET development. You probably have to download the DotGnu source from their website <a href="http://www.gnu.org.software/dotgnu">http://www.gnu.org.software/dotgnu</a> since there is not a DotGnu package in Fedora 10 (I do not know if it is in Fedora 11).<br> <br> My preference is to use Eclipse and Emacs for development but alternatives are available.<br> <br> As for games, I do not play enough of the heavy duty, graphical intensive games to say much hear. I did get the game Physicus to run on Fedora 10 using Wine. Physicus is written to run on Vista and XP and does use 3-d graphics.<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal> Steven F. LeBrun<o:p></o:p></p> <p>Quote: <em>"There are 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those who don't."<o:p></o:p></em></p> <p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>