Thanks for the great read. Hope you enjoy Fedora! :) -- Robin <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, <<a href="mailto:gilpel@altern.org">gilpel@altern.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I just saw that the "Guess who's right behind Ubuntu at Distrowatch" has been continuing as some learned Fedora vs Ubuntu debate. Since I deleted those messages, I have to start a new thread. Countrary to most people here, I'm not very tech savvy. All I want is my distro to work. I have a certain age, my health is, to say the least, less than optimal and, to me, the less trouble, the better. I tried (K)Ubuntu and Debian about 2 years ago before adopting Mandriva and, with both distros, after spending 15 minutes listening to streaming audio with Amarok, I found that, on the next reboot, both my user and root passwords were changed. Not being very much into security auditing, I opted for Mandriva because, at the time, SELinux still seemed to cause issues with Fedora. Mandriva fared well except, at the end, it would take about 5 minutes to boot. Glitch or hack, I have no idea, but I put up with this for maybe two months because, the Mandriva community being less learned than the Fedora community, I didn't feel like inquiring about this very uncommon matter. As Fedora 11 came out, I bought a new computer. SELinux issues seemed to have been ironed out and I also soon found out that it was the only distro that would install with a correct 1280 x 1024 screen definition. Mandriva, for instance, never could get me to a login screen. Suse, which I would never have been caught dead using, gave me a 800 x 600 screen and, as far as I remember, it was the best of the bunch. There was a time when I fiddled in xf86config, but not anymore... So, Fedora chose me more than I chose Fedora. I was afraid that, Fedora having a bleeding edge reputation, some applications would prove unstable, but it wasn't the case. The only serious problem I had with Fedora is a kmod-nvidia package from testing was installed while I had never enabled testing. How this happened, I have no idea. Of course. I've read that deb packaging being more elaborate than rpm, upgrades are easier. I'll see. I hope it's not too complicated 'cause, for the time being, I'm in bed 12 hours a day and, on big days, I wash the dishes. I know geeks like Fedora, but I hope it keeps working for me too. Though Fedora 11 worked right out of the box two weeks after release, now that I have it installed on my computer, I might wait a month or two before I adopt the new version of Fedora. I just don't want to take chances. >From what I read along the last years, it seems that integrating SELinux seemlessly into Fedora has been a painstaking experiment. So much so that only Red Hat/Fedora went for this venture straight on without shilly-shallying. Even Suse has pretty much given up on AppArmor development, whose implementation was easier than SELinux. People here talk a lot about package management. As the security of the net is not improving and Linux market share will hopefully be increasing, I wonder if Red Hat's investments in security will not be what will finally pay off. I'm as far from a geek as anybody can be, but I certainly appreciate that Fedora chose me. -- fedora-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com">fedora-list@redhat.com</a> To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list</a> Guidelines: <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines</a> </blockquote></div>