Fedora Users, Maybe someone has run into this problem in the past. Has anyone ever logged messages that go to /dev/console to a file? I thought I could see messages by tail -f /dev/console, but if echo "Is this thing on?" > /dev/console in another terminal, I don't see the message. if I open up an xconsole I can see them, but that doesn't do me any good. In the past we have had a couple hard lock ups (hardware/software related), and when that happens I can't see any messages in the console prior to a hard reset. Thanks for the suggestions, Chad -- A grasshopper walks into a bar and the bartender says "Hey, we have a drink named after you." And the grasshopper says "Really, You have a drink named Jerry?"