<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16674" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>Tony,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You need to make sure that oyou have ntfs support on your livecd. You will need the ntfs-progs and/or ntfs-3g packages installed before you can mount using ntfs.</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: Coco Computers & Consulting [mailto:anthony_j_coco@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:16 AM To: fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] local hard disk space? </DIV> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=top>Thanks Doug. In continuing to experiment with CentOS5.1 Live CD I have been able to cross-mount drives from other linux systems on my network, but as yet I have not found a way to mount the local hard drive. I tried (as root) to mount it via: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /local because the Graphical Hardware utility recognized my primary local hard drive as /dev/hda1 and because the man page for mount says that 'ntfs' is a valid specification for filesystem type. My local hard drive is an ntfs (Windows XP) filesystem. But when I attempt this mount I get an error message saying that 'ntfs' is not a valid filesystem type. Is there any way at all to mount the local hard drive? That would make the LiveCD distribution much more valuable, I think. --thanks, --Tony C. <A style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(128,255,192)" href="http://coconets.homeip.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Coco Computers & Consulting http://coconets.homeip.net</A> --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Douglas McClendon <dmc.fedora@filteredperception.org> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Douglas McClendon <dmc.fedora@filteredperception.org> Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] local hard disk space? To: fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 8:08 PM <PRE>Coco Computers & Consulting wrote: > When I boot with Centos 5.1 Live CD, a df command shows the root > filesystem / is mounted to /dev/mapper/livecd-rw and shows a total of > about 4GB with 50% available. Is this disk space from my local hard > drive? How is it carved out? My local hard drive isinstalled with a > Windows XP system. Does LiveCD simply create a 4GB file on the local > hard drive for its own use? No, the 4G is basically imaginary. Whatever amount it starts out as used, say 2.1G, is actually compressed data on the cdrom, i.e. about 675MB. Once booted and files/blocks are written, they are written to ram (or with liveusb persistence, flash/disk). The only reason for the arbitrary 4G number, as opposed to say, 1000G, is that the formatting data of a larger filesystem would take up a little bit of extra space, even compressed. Theoretically if you had a 16GB ram system, you'd be a bit unhappy that an artificial limitation of 4GB of writable blocks is being used, when you have more ram than that to burn. Long ago I submitted a patch such that the devicemapper device would have a size greater than 4GB, but the filesystem still be formatted to 4GB. With that kind of patch, sucha user of a 16GB filesystem could resize2fs the filesystem larger post boot, and not be limited. At the time however, squashfs was not as efficient as it currently is with sparse files, and such a larger device would also have resulted in more actual data space taken up on the cdrom (and also signifigantly increasing the time to author/master the livecd originally). Now however squashfs natively handles sparse files, and won't waste any actual space on even a terabyte of zeros. That was probably a longer answer than you were looking for. Executive summary- the 4G is purely imaginary and means nothing. The fedora livecd like most livecds, by default, does not touch your system disk at all. -dmc > > --thanks, > --Tony C. > > Coco Computers & Consulting > http://coconets.homeip.net > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>