<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Perhaps at first we need to show both the wordmark and the symbol together, but down the road, I think the symbol can stand on its own two feet. Similar to the way the Shadowman symbol is used (without the Red Hat wordmark).<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Matt</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"><DIV> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Verdana" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Verdana">......</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Verdana" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Verdana">Matthew Muñoz | Capstrat | 919-882-1975</FONT></P> <BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Sep 15, 2005, at 12:39 PM, Ed Hill wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 13:22 -0300, Steven Garrity wrote:</DIV> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Colin Charles wrote:</DIV> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>* Logo - First round at: <A href="http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/">http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/</A>.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">be fixed later (like Legacy or something)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Is the 'f' too subtle? Do we need a name?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">This logo work is really well done. We should thank Matt Munoz and go<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">with it!</DIV> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">+1 !</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">And IMHO the shirt (and everything else) should say "Fedora" somewhere</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and in large print.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The symbol is OK but the "Fedora" name needs to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">come with it basically everywhere since its new and people just won't</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">understand the symbol by itself.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Ed</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Edward H. Hill III, PhD</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">office:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>MIT Dept. of EAPS;<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Rm 54-1424;<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>77 Massachusetts Ave.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Cambridge, MA 02139-4307</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">emails:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><A href="mailto:eh3@mit.edu">eh3@mit.edu</A><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>ed@eh3.com</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">URLs:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><A href="http://web.mit.edu/eh3/">http://web.mit.edu/eh3/</A><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>http://eh3.com/</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">phone: <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>617-253-0098</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">fax: <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>617-253-4464</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Fedora-marketing-list mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com">Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list">http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list</A></DIV> <BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>