Hi, <div>On 10/1/07, JoergSimon <<a href="mailto:simon@simline.de">simon@simline.de</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Am Sonntag, 30. September 2007 21:34:01 schrieb H. Guémar: > Hi, > Fedora-FR should be seen as a companion organisation to fp.o ambassadors. > Fedora-FR gathers hundred people maybe thousands in the future, French > fp.oambassadors are about a dozen. On Feb2007 i was able to see Thomas presentation on Fosdem and i was impressed - what all of you achieved. There was a strong presence of French ambassadors and after i signalized that i am interessted in there work, i had a great time with kind and communicative people. I am sure you know what is the best to achieve your goals in your country. Please don´t forget the world who need your results. Example: googled metisse & fedora - the really needfull articles only in french</blockquote><div> yeah of course it is a big achivement for Fr-Ambassadors...and it will get mature with the time. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > As an association, we will be able to collect and share some ressources, > and have a _legal existence_. I had really bad conflicts with Gerold about a Legal Entity - i hate bureaucracy and my opinion is that Fedora Project should not have borders - i don´t like´d the idea to found a german LegalEntity. In the other way i proposed the EMEA Leadership in DEC2006 and now i see this could not established without legal status in Europe.</blockquote><div> I will again add my point here, in my opinion we should have a central EMEA Legal Entity, that can work as regularity authority for National Legal Entities. i feel a high degree of need for a central observing authority.... Even if Fr-Ambassadors could help to scale their experience for founding Central EMEA legal entity, it would be very nice... </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> Fedora-FR aims to ease and leverage French > ambassadors work and organizing meetings between users. > Human contacts are a better way to promote Fedora rather than mailing-lists > and irc. Like i say, think about a liason officer who is able to share with us - i am glad to see Thomas in Rheinfelden. </blockquote><div> sure, Fr-Ambassadors are not out of <a href="http://fedoraproject.org">fedoraproject.org</a> frame :) </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > We're as eager as you to set up an EMEA structure lead by Fedora > Ambassadors, but it cannot replace local user groups and vice-versa. An > EMEA structure should also lean on local user groups to strenghten its > action, if we don't, such structure could only fail. There is a EMEA Structure and the success we had in this Year to have Fudcon on Fosdem and LT2007 with Alan Cox and other familiar Names - the official launch of Fedora 7 on LT 2007 by Max ... this was happen without a legal entity, because of work that have to be done. Ask yourself why you doing this? - For me is fun!</blockquote><div> you are right, we should keep in mind the cause , no matter how we achieve it :) cheers </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Cheers Joerg -- Jörg Simon <a href="mailto:jsimon@fedoraproject.org"> jsimon@fedoraproject.org</a> <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon</a> Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list <a href="mailto:Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com">Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list </a> </blockquote></div> -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: <a href="http://nayyares.blogspot.com">nayyares.blogspot.com</a>