From green at redhat.com Sun Jan 7 14:27:35 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:27:35 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf Message-ID: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> One of the annoying things about running qjackctl on a fresh Fedora install is that you have to remember to edit /etc/security/limits.conf as per /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20/README.Fedora or else it doesn't work at all. I'm wondering if there's something we can do to make this easier. One idea is to wrap qjackctl in a script that essentially parses limits.conf to see that everything is set up properly for $USER. If not, it pops up a dialog box explaining the problem and offering to edit it for $USER. If the user agrees, it runs a consolehelper app to fix up limits.conf and continues on with qjackctl. I just can't imagine how a new user gets anything running without stumbling upon that README.Fedora file or searching for help on the web. Good idea? Bad idea? Suggestions? AG From florin at andrei.myip.org Sun Jan 7 19:14:31 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 11:14:31 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf In-Reply-To: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45A14697.7090407@andrei.myip.org> Anthony Green wrote: > One of the annoying things about running qjackctl on a fresh Fedora > install is that you have to remember to edit /etc/security/limits.conf > as per /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20/README.Fedora > or else it doesn't work at all. I'm wondering if there's something we > can do to make this easier. > > One idea is to wrap qjackctl in a script that essentially parses > limits.conf to see that everything is set up properly for $USER. If > not, it pops up a dialog box explaining the problem and offering to edit > it for $USER. If the user agrees, it runs a consolehelper app to fix up > limits.conf and continues on with qjackctl. > > I just can't imagine how a new user gets anything running without > stumbling upon that README.Fedora file or searching for help on the web. > > Good idea? Bad idea? Suggestions? I was about to say "just let the install scripts do the change in the background, without asking, and be done with it" but then I remembered you have to specify the user name(s). So, yeah, good idea, no doubt. Just make sure to distinguish between installs being performed via an xterm running in an X session, and a plain-text session via ssh, or via a local text console - the user will have to be prompted differently in each case. The question is - should qjackctl do the change, or jack-audio-connection-kit? I can see arguments leaning each way. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From green at redhat.com Sun Jan 7 20:37:30 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:37:30 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf In-Reply-To: <45A14697.7090407@andrei.myip.org> References: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45A14697.7090407@andrei.myip.org> Message-ID: <1168202250.3408.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 11:14 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote: > I was about to say "just let the install scripts do the change in the > background, without asking, and be done with it" but then I remembered > you have to specify the user name(s). > > So, yeah, good idea, no doubt. Just make sure to distinguish between > installs being performed via an xterm running in an X session, and a > plain-text session via ssh, or via a local text console - the user will > have to be prompted differently in each case. If we do it around qjackctl, then we don't have to worry about this, since we're only talking about GUI console users. > The question is - should qjackctl do the change, or > jack-audio-connection-kit? I can see arguments leaning each way. Hand-holding for command line users can be counter-productive. Wrapping qjackctl also solves the problem you describe above. It would be nice to have this for Fedora 7, but I can't volunteer to write it any time soon. I just thought I'd write it down while I was thinking of it, and would be really happy if somebody else had time to do this... AG From seg at haxxed.com Sun Jan 7 21:09:40 2007 From: seg at haxxed.com (Callum Lerwick) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:09:40 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf In-Reply-To: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1168204180.6142.42.camel@max.booze> On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 06:27 -0800, Anthony Green wrote: > I just can't imagine how a new user gets anything running without > stumbling upon that README.Fedora file or searching for help on the web. > > Good idea? Bad idea? Suggestions? We really need to put together a decent "How to get started" guide on the wiki. Well, and a SIG page period. ;P Look at what the Games SIG is doing. And the CCRMA at home docs is a good template as well. I've been wanting to do this but I'm in need of round tuits... Has jack's README.Fedora been changed to recommend a memlock of 131072 (128mb) or so? 50000 is really not enough. Its been like a year now and 131072 has served me well. Not sure how we can do out-of-the-box setup that will be acceptable distribution-wide. Perhaps we can do it debian style, add yourself to the "jackuser" group if you want real time perms. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From green at redhat.com Sun Jan 7 22:18:48 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:18:48 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf In-Reply-To: <1168204180.6142.42.camel@max.booze> References: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1168204180.6142.42.camel@max.booze> Message-ID: <1168208328.3408.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 15:09 -0600, Callum Lerwick wrote: > Has jack's README.Fedora been changed to recommend a memlock of 131072 > (128mb) or so? 50000 is really not enough. No, I don't think so. File a bug I guess. > Not sure how we can do out-of-the-box setup that will be acceptable > distribution-wide. Perhaps we can do it debian style, add yourself to > the "jackuser" group if you want real time perms. Oh, I like this idea. So the jack-audio-connection-kit %post would create a jackuser group, and add the following to limits.conf... @jackuser - rtprio 20 @jackuser - memlock 131072 Then we could still have a wrapper around qjackctl to see if the user is a member of the jackuser group and give them the option of joining if not (via consolehelper app). Does that sound right? AG From florin at andrei.myip.org Sun Jan 7 23:06:55 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:06:55 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf In-Reply-To: <1168208328.3408.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1168204180.6142.42.camel@max.booze> <1168208328.3408.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45A17D0F.4050604@andrei.myip.org> Anthony Green wrote: > > Oh, I like this idea. So the jack-audio-connection-kit %post would > create a jackuser group, and add the following to limits.conf... > > @jackuser - rtprio 20 > @jackuser - memlock 131072 > > Then we could still have a wrapper around qjackctl to see if the user is > a member of the jackuser group and give them the option of joining if > not (via consolehelper app). > > Does that sound right? Perfect. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From green at redhat.com Sun Jan 7 23:52:54 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:52:54 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf In-Reply-To: <45A17D0F.4050604@andrei.myip.org> References: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1168204180.6142.42.camel@max.booze> <1168208328.3408.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45A17D0F.4050604@andrei.myip.org> Message-ID: <1168213974.3408.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 15:06 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote: > > Does that sound right? > > Perfect. I've filed a bug for adding the jackuser group... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=221785 AG From kms at passback.co.uk Mon Jan 8 18:04:12 2007 From: kms at passback.co.uk (Keith Sharp) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:04:12 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf In-Reply-To: <1168204180.6142.42.camel@max.booze> References: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1168204180.6142.42.camel@max.booze> Message-ID: <1168279453.17019.16.camel@animal.passback.co.uk> On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 15:09 -0600, Callum Lerwick wrote: > On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 06:27 -0800, Anthony Green wrote: > > I just can't imagine how a new user gets anything running without > > stumbling upon that README.Fedora file or searching for help on the web. > > > > Good idea? Bad idea? Suggestions? > > We really need to put together a decent "How to get started" guide on > the wiki. Well, and a SIG page period. ;P Look at what the Games SIG is > doing. And the CCRMA at home docs is a good template as well. I've been > wanting to do this but I'm in need of round tuits... I did make a start at this then got side tracked: http://www.passback.co.uk/music/fedora-music-intro/ I really should get round to finishing the other parts. Keith. From seg at haxxed.com Mon Jan 8 22:41:39 2007 From: seg at haxxed.com (Callum Lerwick) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:41:39 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf In-Reply-To: <1168208328.3408.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1168204180.6142.42.camel@max.booze> <1168208328.3408.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1168296099.12738.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 14:18 -0800, Anthony Green wrote: > Oh, I like this idea. So the jack-audio-connection-kit %post would > create a jackuser group, and add the following to limits.conf... > > @jackuser - rtprio 20 > @jackuser - memlock 131072 Modifying other packages config files in %post is evil hackery that should be avoided at all costs. As we're entering the grand new era of the Unified Nation of Fedora, we should be able to push to have the proper settings in limits.conf to begin with.... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jan 9 00:49:58 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:49:58 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] jack and /etc/security/limits.conf In-Reply-To: <1168296099.12738.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1168180055.3360.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1168204180.6142.42.camel@max.booze> <1168208328.3408.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1168296099.12738.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1168303798.9894.65.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 16:41 -0600, Callum Lerwick wrote: > On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 14:18 -0800, Anthony Green wrote: > > Oh, I like this idea. So the jack-audio-connection-kit %post would > > create a jackuser group, and add the following to limits.conf... > > > > @jackuser - rtprio 20 > > @jackuser - memlock 131072 > > Modifying other packages config files in %post is evil hackery that > should be avoided at all costs. As we're entering the grand new era of > the Unified Nation of Fedora, we should be able to push to have the > proper settings in limits.conf to begin with.... I agree... What I have done in the past (have not done it yet for fc6 as I have not released a low latency kernel) is to publish pam packages in Planet CCRMA so that things work "out of the box" for Planet CCRMA users. A lot less than optimal but the only way I could get things to work with no "hacking" of configuration files, etc, etc. -- Fernando From florin at andrei.myip.org Fri Jan 26 07:19:13 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:19:13 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth doesn't work Message-ID: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> I got whysynth-dssi-20060122-7.src.rpm from here: http://people.redhat.com/green/FE/devel/ I rebuilt it on FC6 without problems. The thing is, the GUI doesn't show up. The program appears to be working, I see the outputs being automatically routed in qjackctl, but there's no GUI anywhere! ############################################### $ jack-dssi-host whysynth.so jack-dssi-host: Warning: DSSI path not set jack-dssi-host: Defaulting to "/usr/local/lib/dssi:/usr/lib/dssi:/home/florin/.dssi" jack-dssi-host: OSC URL is: osc.udp://rivendell.home.local:15040/dssi/whysynth/WhySynth/chan00 host: Ready WhySynth_gtk starting (pid 4305)... ############################################### -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From green at redhat.com Fri Jan 26 15:04:52 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:04:52 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth doesn't work In-Reply-To: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> Message-ID: <1169823892.7667.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 23:19 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote: > I got whysynth-dssi-20060122-7.src.rpm from here: > > http://people.redhat.com/green/FE/devel/ > > I rebuilt it on FC6 without problems. The thing is, the GUI doesn't show > up. The program appears to be working, I see the outputs being > automatically routed in qjackctl, but there's no GUI anywhere! Does your hostname resolve (or does "ping localhost" work?)? My fresh FC6 installation came with a broken /etc/hosts... # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. ::1 localhost.localdomain localhost This makes sense for IPv6, but I'm not using IPv6. Changing this to ... 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ...fixed a number of problems. I suspect it may help you as well, as I understand that liblo (used for GUI communication) is sensitive to problems like this. AG From green at redhat.com Fri Jan 26 17:03:47 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:03:47 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> Message-ID: <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 23:19 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote: > I got whysynth-dssi-20060122-7.src.rpm from here: > > http://people.redhat.com/green/FE/devel/ > By the way... I submitted this package for review 9 months ago today! Can somebody please pick this up? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190029 Some other golden oldies... hydrogen: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190040 caps: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190045 Thanks, AG From florin at andrei.myip.org Sat Jan 27 03:38:34 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:38:34 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth doesn't work In-Reply-To: <1169823892.7667.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169823892.7667.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45BAC93A.5030604@andrei.myip.org> Anthony Green wrote: > > My fresh FC6 installation came with a broken /etc/hosts... > > # Do not remove the following line, or various programs > # that require network functionality will fail. > ::1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > This makes sense for IPv6, but I'm not using IPv6. > Changing this to ... > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > ...fixed a number of problems. I actually had both the IPv4 and the IPv6 lines. I commented out the IPv6 stuff. Also, the IP address for the real hostname was broken too - I moved this machine to another net and I forgot to update /etc/hosts So I fixed both issues and now whysynth is working. I am not sure which one was actually the cause. I wonder why it's not using localhost, but the Ethernet address instead. Thanks! :-) -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From florin at andrei.myip.org Sat Jan 27 05:56:18 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:56:18 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> Anthony Green wrote: > > By the way... I submitted this package for review 9 months ago today! > Can somebody please pick this up? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190029 > > Some other golden oldies... > > hydrogen: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190040 > > caps: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190045 OK, that does it. What does it take to become a reviewer? I've never been involved with Extras but I've built hundreds of RPMs. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Jan 27 19:27:45 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:27:45 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> Message-ID: <1169926065.24142.7.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 21:56 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote: > Anthony Green wrote: > > > > By the way... I submitted this package for review 9 months ago today! > > Can somebody please pick this up? > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190029 > > > > Some other golden oldies... > > > > hydrogen: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190040 > > > > caps: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190045 > > OK, that does it. What does it take to become a reviewer? > I've never been involved with Extras but I've built hundreds of RPMs. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Contributors More help would be really appreciated... I also have freqtweak and sooperlooper on the queue, languishing... -- Fernando From green at redhat.com Sat Jan 27 06:41:56 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:41:56 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> Message-ID: <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 21:56 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote: > OK, that does it. What does it take to become a reviewer? > I've never been involved with Extras but I've built hundreds of RPMs. Great! Before you can review, you need to contribute a package of your own... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Contributors Once you've had a package accepted you can start reviewing and approving other packages. Let me know when you've submitted something and I'll review it quickly. AG From florin at andrei.myip.org Sat Jan 27 21:47:44 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:47:44 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> Message-ID: <45BBC880.8040602@andrei.myip.org> Anthony Green wrote: > > Great! Before you can review, you need to contribute a package of your > own... > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Contributors > > Once you've had a package accepted you can start reviewing and approving > other packages. Let me know when you've submitted something and I'll > review it quickly. Fernando, anything you may suggest I should pick up from PlanetCCRMA for migration to Extras? -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Jan 27 23:34:36 2007 From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:34:36 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <45BBC880.8040602@andrei.myip.org> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> <45BBC880.8040602@andrei.myip.org> Message-ID: <1169940876.24142.26.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 13:47 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote: > Anthony Green wrote: > > > > Great! Before you can review, you need to contribute a package of your > > own... > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Contributors > > > > Once you've had a package accepted you can start reviewing and approving > > other packages. Let me know when you've submitted something and I'll > > review it quickly. > > Fernando, anything you may suggest I should pick up from PlanetCCRMA for > migration to Extras? Hard to say. Qarecord and Timemachine are neat for recording (both are Jack clients). Hmmm, Ardour is there but Jamin is not. And of course you could pick up a LADSPA plugin collection from the many I currently host. For all of them if you pick up the latest fc6 srpm you should be close... [if you do please try to keep the extra desktop categories I add to the desktop entry, they make it possible to have a neat categorized menu entry for audio apps] I'm always meaning to add more to Extras but the process is long as you will find out - time flies and tasks pile up too fast on my todo list. -- Fernando From florin at andrei.myip.org Sun Jan 28 00:16:30 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:16:30 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <1169940876.24142.26.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> <45BBC880.8040602@andrei.myip.org> <1169940876.24142.26.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <45BBEB5E.1010906@andrei.myip.org> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > Hard to say. Qarecord and Timemachine are neat for recording (both are > Jack clients). Hmmm, Ardour is there but Jamin is not. And of course you > could pick up a LADSPA plugin collection from the many I currently host. > For all of them if you pick up the latest fc6 srpm you should be > close... Jamin and LADSPA are very important. Lemme take a look... -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From fedora at leemhuis.info Sun Jan 28 10:31:28 2007 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:31:28 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <1169940876.24142.26.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> <45BBC880.8040602@andrei.myip.org> <1169940876.24142.26.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <45BC7B80.1030804@leemhuis.info> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano schrieb: > On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 13:47 -0800, Florin Andrei wrote: >> Anthony Green wrote: >>> Great! Before you can review, you need to contribute a package of your >>> own... >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Contributors >>> Once you've had a package accepted you can start reviewing and approving >>> other packages. Let me know when you've submitted something and I'll >>> review it quickly. >> Fernando, anything you may suggest I should pick up from PlanetCCRMA for >> migration to Extras? > [...] > I'm always meaning to add more to Extras but the process is long as you > will find out - time flies and tasks pile up too fast on my todo list. Just my 2 cent: Maybe you guys should use the "MediaProduction Special Interest Group" http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/MediaProduction in a similar way as the Games SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Games -- e.g. maintain a list of packages in the wiki that are pending review and try to exchange reviews between SIG members. That could speed up things a lot -- I got the impression that many "normal" reviewers fear to touch the "music packages" as they don't understand much about music editing in general or jack. CU thl From seg at haxxed.com Mon Jan 29 00:04:31 2007 From: seg at haxxed.com (Callum Lerwick) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:04:31 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1170029071.23490.3.camel@max.booze> On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 09:03 -0800, Anthony Green wrote: > hydrogen: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190040 Heh, I was reviewing hydrogen and was almost done, but then bugzilla died and... I kinda forgot about it. I should probably finish that up... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From florin at andrei.myip.org Mon Jan 29 01:40:54 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:40:54 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> Message-ID: <45BD50A6.1060707@andrei.myip.org> Anthony Green wrote: > > Great! Before you can review, you need to contribute a package of your > own... Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225114 -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From florin at andrei.myip.org Mon Jan 29 01:42:14 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:42:14 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <45BC7B80.1030804@leemhuis.info> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> <45BBC880.8040602@andrei.myip.org> <1169940876.24142.26.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> <45BC7B80.1030804@leemhuis.info> Message-ID: <45BD50F6.1040508@andrei.myip.org> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > Just my 2 cent: Maybe you guys should use the "MediaProduction Special > Interest Group" > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/MediaProduction > in a similar way as the Games SIG > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Games > -- e.g. maintain a list of packages in the wiki that are pending review > and try to exchange reviews between SIG members. That could speed up > things a lot -- I got the impression that many "normal" reviewers fear > to touch the "music packages" as they don't understand much about music > editing in general or jack. Great idea, but the amount of red tape surrounding Extras is staggering. I'll try and get edit permissions to the Wiki. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From green at redhat.com Mon Jan 29 15:35:05 2007 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:35:05 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <1169926065.24142.7.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> <1169926065.24142.7.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1170084905.3669.7.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 11:27 -0800, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > More help would be really appreciated... > I also have freqtweak and sooperlooper on the queue, languishing... Sorry Fernando.. I thought I was waiting on final updates from you for those packages, aren't I? AG From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 30 16:05:45 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:05:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: <45BD50F6.1040508@andrei.myip.org> References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> <45BBC880.8040602@andrei.myip.org> <1169940876.24142.26.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> <45BC7B80.1030804@leemhuis.info> <45BD50F6.1040508@andrei.myip.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Florin Andrei wrote: > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> >> Just my 2 cent: Maybe you guys should use the "MediaProduction Special >> Interest Group" >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/MediaProduction >> in a similar way as the Games SIG >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Games >> -- e.g. maintain a list of packages in the wiki that are pending review >> and try to exchange reviews between SIG members. That could speed up >> things a lot -- I got the impression that many "normal" reviewers fear >> to touch the "music packages" as they don't understand much about music >> editing in general or jack. > > Great idea, but the amount of red tape surrounding Extras is staggering. > > I'll try and get edit permissions to the Wiki. For what it's worth, we're working to cut this down. The barrier for working on the wiki in particular is way too high, and we know it. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From florin at andrei.myip.org Tue Jan 30 17:44:53 2007 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:44:53 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-music-list] whysynth review In-Reply-To: References: <45B9AB71.6040502@andrei.myip.org> <1169831027.7667.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45BAE982.909@andrei.myip.org> <1169880116.6158.2.camel@to-dhcp2.toronto.redhat.com> <45BBC880.8040602@andrei.myip.org> <1169940876.24142.26.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> <45BC7B80.1030804@leemhuis.info> <45BD50F6.1040508@andrei.myip.org> Message-ID: <45BF8415.8050107@andrei.myip.org> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > For what it's worth, we're working to cut this down. The barrier for > working on the wiki in particular is way too high, and we know it. Thank you! -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/