[fedora-my] Fwd: FW: Tell Your Friends!

[Eric Yeoh]

So working in a foreign outsourced company is working in the real
world? Man, you just insulted the majority of the IT workforce in the
country. Malaysia is a country which is mostly SMB/SMEs; so those IT
guys are in Never-Never Land? What about those who are on their own?
They don't do real work but you do?

HP also train "system engineers"; care to ask the HP alumni what they
think of HP? If you were ever worked for HP you would know what I
mean. What about CSC Malaysia? It's an MNC also; CSC Global used to
support the US Seventh Fleet. Ask your mates who have worked there.
EDS? IBM? ACS? DHL?

I started my career with working for and with MNCs for some years and
trust me, it's nothing more than taichi central; everyone's hiding
behind procedures and KPIs and what not. Just follow the procedure,
don't pay attentions to what is not in your JD, even if the server was
on fire.

Note, that was not cynical, about a year back, just for the heck of it
got myself interviewed by two interesting Managers from T-Systems who
actually said that I only needed to focus on the task list and
procedure I was to be given. Even if I know how to solve a problem but
it's not within my JD or task list, I should keep quiet. So keep your
head down, do your work and to heck with other departments, is that
it?

So as long everything look good on paper and nothing seriously is
wrong, hey job well done.

I have been in this line for many years now and when I was a
freelancer I used to be contracted by these IT MNCs to go in to solve
problems their talents could not. So those are the "real" trained
engineers?

The benefits in MNCs are good, no arguments there.

We are cheap, that's why they are here, plain and simple. Not because
we are more talented.

Eric

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat
Raslan<sharuzzaman at gmail.com> wrote:
> You are so wrong, Eric.
>
> This fresh grad is being hired as system engineers, trained for 6 month to
> learn the real thing that enterprise Multinational company use.
>
> Sorry if your mindset is still stuck in the small company region, but this
> advertisement did not say that we are just supporting proprietary software.
>
> Our environment is a healthy mix of Open Source software and proprietary
> software, with Open Source is gaining rapid acceptance by our customer.
>
> To state the fact, we have 5000+ Red Hat servers and desktop operational,
> and more than 200 Suse servers being used daily. This kind of environment
> need real people that understand real Open Source. And also people that are
> not skeptic, or keep their mind under the coconut shell.
>
> Welcome to the real world, Eric.
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Eric Yeoh <msiantuxlover at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nice, another ad for helpdesk. How is that going to further our
>> promotion of FOSS? Thanks for screwing up the future of fresh grads by
>> chucking them in call centres. I am sure that will help them much.
>>
>> I am sorry but you are putting out an ad to support proprietary
>> software in a FOSS mailing list. Do not expect to be treated kindly!
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat
>> Raslan<sharuzzaman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Siau, Swee Furn
>> > Sent: 28 Julai 2009 1:08 PM
>> > Subject: Tell Your Friends!
>> >
>> > Interview for Fresh Graduates (IT or IT-related studies)
>> >
>> > 1 & 2 August 2009
>> >
>> > Organized by TSMY HR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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