[fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0

[BRIAN RITCHIE]

Kage,

  If I may add. We can also take another route to resolve bug #0. We need to
encourage participation and not merely usage. The challenge of Asia or at
least SEA at this point is we are heavy consumers but not contributors
particularly b/c we are using not participating.

  We perhaps need to take a hands-on approach as well to this issue. One
such example we can emulate is Damn Vulnerable Linux. What they do is
produce a unpatched ISO of a certain distro for users to download and
attempt to hack on, which actually invites the user to not only use but
engage with the distro.

   Perhaps we can identify the Fedora strong points and create such
hackathons/day-0/patch writing competitions with universities to encourage
students to work on real issues. I am sure we can organise such sessions
with the help of Fedora where the patches can be submitted reviewed and
approved for use thus encouraging students to indirectly contribute/train
more towards such goals.

What say you ?

-BRIAN RITCHIE

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Johann Amin <johann at akiss.com.my> wrote:
> > On 10/28/2009 03:53 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Johann Amin<johann at akiss.com.my>
>  wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>  From what I can see, most if not all of the FOSS activity is happening
> >>> in
> >>> Selangor/WP. It is crucial to remember that the "MY" in FOSS-MY stands
> >>> for
> >>> Malaysia (if by any chance it means Myanmar, please ignore the
> remainder
> >>> of
> >>> this message). Selangor/WP !== Malaysia.
> >>>
> >>
> >> of course Selangor/WP is not Malaysia. but the active ones are located
> >> in this area. Also , FOSS-MY != Fedora-MY.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > My bad. I've always preferred to use the term FOSS as it is more
> > "wholesome".
>
> no , its my bad ..
>
> if you mean "FOSS-MY" as in the conference and the group of people
> behind the conference, then "FOSS-MY" != "Fedora-MY" ..
>
> but if you mean FOSS as in the concept and philosophy of Free Software
> and Open Source Software .. then thats a different case  :) ..
>
> >>>
> >>> The first step is to find out who's who&  where. Draft out a roster and
> >>> appoint 2 to 3 persons as state/area administrators.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Currently in term of Fedora-MY group, majority are in Selangor/WP, and
> >> we kindof got Farouq at JB, thats for now. The rest are idle. There
> >> are also some Fedorans in Perak (UTP/UiTM)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Well, now you've got my name up here in Penang. If there are any
> Fedora-MY
> > lurkers around in Penang/Butterworth, you know who to call.
>
> cool ... it would be great if you grab a FAS Account and add yourself
> as an active contributor in our contributor list
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam  ... so that
> its easier for ppl to look for you :)
>
> >>>
> >>> People are not going to join a cause if they don't actually see it in
> >>> action, which brings us to the second step. FOSS activities should be
> >>> rotated to different states/areas where potential/promising candidates
> >>> can
> >>> come, see, touch&  smell the community.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Also, do note that Fedora-MY is a group with no money besides from our
> >> own shallow pockets. We cant afford (monetarily, and time) to cycle
> >> venues like that.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Sure I would like the pizazz & glamor of a ballroom event in a 6-star
> hotel
> > with free flow of champagne and what not, but FOSS is about drawing
> > interest, bringing awareness & fostering a community. Even if you just
> setup
> > a stall in the middle of a pasar malam with a 1HP petrol generator, 2
> > notebooks and a megaphone. The moment someone stops to inquire, we've
> done
> > our job.
>
> thats what we've been doing and still doing it, but without the petrol
> generator and megaphone ... yup, our pocket is much shallower to even
> afford pasar malam booth .. lolz ..
>
> >>
> >> Therefore, at this point of time, what we can afford is Selangor/WP as
> >> our starting point.
> >
> > It doesn't have to be now and it doesn't have to be tomorrow, but as long
> as
> > we are sincere in wanting to making Fedora/FOSS activities something that
> > can be enjoyed/embraced by all, it is a good enough start.
>
> yep
>
> >>
> >> Until more consumers are converted to become
> >> contributors.
> >>
> >
> > Build it and they shall come.
> >
> >
> > You need to define "contribution".  Most people wold take it to mean
> money.
>
>
> In general, I want more people who can take on stuff listed in
> http://join.fedoraproject.org/ .. it can mean money, but imo, action
> worth more.
>
>
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