[fedora-my] Fedora-MY Bug #0

[Izhar Firdaus]

2009/10/28 BRIAN RITCHIE <esqbrianritchie at gmail.com>:
> That's great. What we can do in this case is formalize this into a course
> module, part-time or summer project for local universities. Similar to GSOC,
> we can implement a smaller scale tutorial form with proper end goals for
> students in unis or even high school if we are ambitious enough and have
> adequate resources. Thoughts ? Community ?

You familiar with GSOC?

theres no tutorial, the student do everything themselves, with a
mentor to poke when stuck ... which is why USD5000 is given to those
who successfully finished their project ..

I wonder if our students are ready for such culture ... too many that
i've met want to be spoonfed (and this coming from a student who just
left Uni - me) ..

>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:53 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE
>> <esqbrianritchie at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Kage,
>> >
>> >  If I may add. We can also take another route to resolve bug #0. We need
>> to
>> > encourage participation and not merely usage. The challenge of Asia or at
>> > least SEA at this point is we are heavy consumers but not contributors
>> > particularly b/c we are using not participating.
>>
>> exactly ... we have a lot of consumers here .. but lack of
>> contributors ... and most of the local activities so far, are focused
>> in getting more consumers rather than contributors ..
>>
>> and imo, our group should focus in fixing this bug ..  as theres no
>> group (that i've seen so far) try to assess this issue ..
>>
>> >
>> >  We perhaps need to take a hands-on approach as well to this issue. One
>> > such example we can emulate is Damn Vulnerable Linux. What they do is
>> > produce a unpatched ISO of a certain distro for users to download and
>> > attempt to hack on, which actually invites the user to not only use but
>> > engage with the distro.
>>
>> DSL is created for a different - computer security related - purpose .. :)
>>
>> >
>> >   Perhaps we can identify the Fedora strong points and create such
>> > hackathons/day-0/patch writing competitions with universities to
>> encourage
>> > students to work on real issues. I am sure we can organise such sessions
>> > with the help of Fedora where the patches can be submitted reviewed and
>> > approved for use thus encouraging students to indirectly contribute/train
>> > more towards such goals.
>>
>> Your idea is quite close to what I've been thinking for quite some time :)
>>
>> Barcamp Melaka is my first (personal) milestone to start getting
>> contributors ...
>>
>> 'with the help of Fedora' .. that would be us :P .. we also need to
>> sharpen up our own technical skills in this.... currently from the
>> current situation, I'm quite alone whenever it comes to Fedora related
>> technology skills ... (eg, writing yum plugins, understanding rpm and
>> repositories, knowing some of the codes of some of the internal tools,
>> knowing the Fedora infrastructure and libs related to it) ...
>>
>> So, what I'm planning now, try to guide/get more people who can work
>> on these stuff  ... not sure how many i would get though , as so far,
>> several had given up ..  but 1 is always better than 0 ..
>>
>> RPM Packaging is a start .. anybody going to Barcamp Melaka? :P
>>
>> >
>> > What say you ?
>> >
>> > -BRIAN RITCHIE
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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