From huzaifas at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 03:45:47 2009 From: huzaifas at redhat.com (Huzaifa Sidhpurwala) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:15:47 +0530 Subject: Infra beat is complete Message-ID: <49866C6B.1060909@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 $subject. - -- Regards, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala, RHCE, CCNA (IRC: huzaifas) GnuPG Fingerprint: 3A0F DAFB 9279 02ED 273B FFE9 CC70 DCF2 DA5B DAE5 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJhmxrzHDc8tpb2uURArvcAJ4yMw2njX6ClUjFUjlYMrFVYwI7PACghZBl RCLvpkIOMqvmpgYtWJp4FSY= =hFB2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 2 05:52:47 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:52:47 -0500 Subject: FWN #161 status Message-ID: <1233553967.22037.1297977917@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi Pascal, Huzaifa I've started #161 but am going to go to bed now and know that I'll be busy until mid-morning tomorrow, so I'm going to have to ask one of you to take up the baton from here. What I've done so far: edited and copied the following Beats into https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue161 Note that I'm using the new citation/reference markup so that each URL is written inline wrapped in ref tags and then a references placeholder is placed below each beat-item, e.g. === Item Title Goes Here === This is some text with a referencehttp://somesilly/path.html in it which the cite.php module will automatically convert into a nicely superscripted anchor and move into the placeholder below. Thanks and sorry to give such short notice. A bad weekend ... and no, I didn't watch the superbowl;) Hope some of you caught it. Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 2 05:54:15 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:54:15 -0500 Subject: FWN #161 status In-Reply-To: <1233553967.22037.1297977917@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1233553967.22037.1297977917@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1233554055.22179.1297978523@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:52:47 -0500, "Oisin Feeley" said: > Hi Pascal, Huzaifa > > I've started #161 but am going to go to bed now and know that I'll be > busy until mid-morning tomorrow, so I'm going to have to ask one of you > to take up the baton from here. I've also just remembered we should probably cut'n'paste Nicolas Mailhot's piece from his email as a special addendum? -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Feb 2 12:05:03 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:05:03 -0500 Subject: FWN #161 status In-Reply-To: <1233553967.22037.1297977917@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1233553967.22037.1297977917@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4986E16F.6080001@nd.edu> No problem, I can take it from here, Oisin. Yes, a fun and exciting finish for the superbowl this year. - pascal Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hi Pascal, Huzaifa > > I've started #161 but am going to go to bed now and know that I'll be > busy until mid-morning tomorrow, so I'm going to have to ask one of you > to take up the baton from here. What I've done so far: > > edited and copied the following Beats into > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue161 > > Note that I'm using the new citation/reference markup so that each URL > is written inline wrapped in ref tags and then a references placeholder > is placed below each beat-item, e.g. > > === Item Title Goes Here === > This is some text with a referencehttp://somesilly/path.html > in it which the cite.php module will automatically convert into a nicely > superscripted anchor and move into the placeholder below. > > > > Thanks and sorry to give such short notice. A bad weekend ... and no, I > didn't watch the superbowl;) Hope some of you caught it. > > Best, From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Feb 2 12:06:16 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:06:16 -0500 Subject: FWN #161 status In-Reply-To: <1233554055.22179.1297978523@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1233553967.22037.1297977917@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1233554055.22179.1297978523@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4986E1B8.10607@nd.edu> Will do. I'll also reference Nicu's mention of coverage in FWN 153 as a prelude. - pascal Oisin Feeley wrote: > On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:52:47 -0500, "Oisin Feeley" > said: >> Hi Pascal, Huzaifa >> >> I've started #161 but am going to go to bed now and know that I'll be >> busy until mid-morning tomorrow, so I'm going to have to ask one of you >> to take up the baton from here. > > I've also just remembered we should probably cut'n'paste Nicolas > Mailhot's piece from his email as a special addendum? > From dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu Mon Feb 2 19:38:56 2009 From: dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu (Dale Bewley) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:38:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: FWN #161 status In-Reply-To: <1233553967.22037.1297977917@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1590648312.2188651233603536479.JavaMail.root@zebra.lib.ucdavis.edu> ----- "Oisin Feeley" wrote: > Note that I'm using the new citation/reference markup so that each > URL > is written inline wrapped in ref tags and then a references > placeholder > is placed below each beat-item, e.g. > > === Item Title Goes Here === > This is some text with a > referencehttp://somesilly/path.html > in it which the cite.php module will automatically convert into a > nicely > superscripted anchor and move into the placeholder below. > > > I saw mention of this in the meeting wrap up (haven't read the logs yet), but I took "next issue" to mean not THIS issue, so I didn't bother to catch up on the changes. I didn't really have time to anyway. Sorry I do think the above example is going to be WAY better and easier to work with. The whole User:foo thing, uh.. I'll wait to read the logs before I comment. From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 21:04:08 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:04:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fedora Weekly News meeting summary 2009-01-30 In-Reply-To: <49839689.40600@nd.edu> References: <49839689.40600@nd.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Pascal Calarco wrote: > * Pascal will follow up with current Ambassador and Marketing writers, > and send a note out to the lists if they are not able to continue; > Oisin will ask David Nalley for suggestions for the Security Week > beat, since David is doing the Fedora updates beat each week I've been including upcoming events in the Announcements beat, FWIW. > * Pascal will update the FWN StyleGuide to indicate that person > references should ideally reference the appropriate User: wiki page, > if it exists. If it does not, we will use CamelCase references as a > fallback. Noted. === Is there a new policy for referencing URLs? --Max From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Feb 2 21:43:10 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:43:10 -0500 Subject: FWN 161 Message-ID: <498768EE.8050401@nd.edu> Folks, I've been pulled into unexpected emergency meetings here for most of the day, and haven't had a chance to finish up 161. I will work on this tonight. My apologies, this was quite unforseen! - pascal From stickster at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 22:37:57 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:37:57 -0500 Subject: FWN 161 In-Reply-To: <498768EE.8050401@nd.edu> References: <498768EE.8050401@nd.edu> Message-ID: <20090202223757.GN10237@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 04:43:10PM -0500, Pascal Calarco wrote: > Folks, I've been pulled into unexpected emergency meetings here for most > of the day, and haven't had a chance to finish up 161. I will work on > this tonight. My apologies, this was quite unforseen! No problem Pascal, thanks for letting everyone know. I'll stay tuned because I like to get my weekly fix. :-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Tue Feb 3 02:19:51 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:19:51 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News Issue 161 Message-ID: <4987A9C7.70306@nd.edu> Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 161 for the week ending February 1, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue161 This week's FWN goodness offers a very special update from the Fonts SIG to bring us up to date on their work leading up to Fedora 11. You may also notice that we are tweaking the wiki formatting to take advantage of the cite module and other features in MediaWiki, and employing User: references for links to named Fedora folk. We'd love to hear your feedback on these changes. Also in this week's intrepid issue details on the upcoming Fedora monthly public meeting, updates on upcoming events with a Fedora presence, and news updates from around the Fedora Planet. In Developments, details on a slight delay to F11 Alpha and Electronic Automation Tools updates. Translation news brings updates from the latest FLP meeting and website translation updates, along with more Fedora 11 plans. A couple brief updates from the Infrastructure Team, including discussion of possible automation of fedora hosted requests. The Artwork beat paints a lovely picture with details on Fedora 11 visual details, and we're brought up to date with the latest security advisories for Fedora 9 and 10. The issue completes with updates from the various virtualization projects, including details on a new libvirt and virt-manager, as well as meaty updates on the Fedora Xen list. Enjoy, everyone! We are currently looking for a new writer to cover the Fedora Ambassadors for FWN. The work chiefly involves summarizing each's week's traffic on the Fedora Ambassadors' list, and is likely a time committment of perhaps one hour per week. If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala == Announcements == In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ Contributing Writer: Max Spevack === Fedora Board Meeting === Paul Frields wrote[2] that "the Board is holding its monthly public meeting on Tuesday, 3 February 2009, at 1900 UTC on IRC Freenode." * Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation. This channel is read-only for non-Board members. * Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions. This channel is read/write for everyone. 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-January/msg00018.html === Legal === Tom Callaway announced [1] that "after talking with Red Hat Legal about how we should be handling trademarks in package summaries and descriptions, we came to the conclusion that it would be far easier (and less risky for Red Hat) if we did not use "(TM)" or "(R)" notations at all." 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-January/msg00012.html === Fedora 11 === Fedora 11 Alpha is likely to be delayed for a few days (originally scheduled for February 3) due to a GUI checkbox bug in Anaconda and a problem with nfs-utils that prevented installs over NFS. See the links [1] [2] [3] below for all the technical details. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-January/msg00013.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-January/msg00014.html 3. ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483375 === Upcoming Events === Fedora will have a presence at several events in the next few weeks. Feel free to join us, February 6 - 8: Free and Open Source Developers European Meeting (FOSDEM)[1] February 20 - 22: Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE)[2][3] Also, people are encouraged to register for Fedora or JBoss.org related speaking slots at LinuxTag 2009.[4] 1. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009 2. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event 3. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x 4. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009_talks == Special Report: Fonts SIG == Contributing Writer: Nicolas Mailhot Since Fedora 11 Alpha is quickly approaching, here is a much-delayed edition of the fonts SIG irregular status report. You may recall FWN covered the font surveys in FWN #153[1]. The following special report is largely in addition to that previous report. I should probably have done one for Fedora 10 release, but (silly me) expected then that the new font packaging guidelines would be adopted quickly. After all, they only reworded existing rules and added material already presented and discussed on the fonts and devel lists. Of course various instances decided to celebrate F10 by taking a break, then there was some bike-shedding, then we had the Christmas vacations, then FUDCON and more bike-shedding. Live and learn. At least after being hammered to death the result is clear and clean. Anyway, to the report. 1. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue153#Fonts_Survey === New fonts packaging guidelines === After much anguish and unexpected developments FPC and FESCO approved the complete set of fonts packaging changes that we had submitted.[1] The end result is: 1) a completed and clarified policy page[2] 2) two new packaging templates[3] [4] 3) a helper package with rpm macros, documentation, plus fontconfig and spec templates[5] 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-January/msg00007.html 2. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:FontsPolicy 3. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Simple_fonts_spec_template 4. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts 5. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_fonts_policy_package === Distribution-wide font auditing and repackaging === Some innocent repoqueries revealed a distressing number of source packages (>130) that made us ship fonts while completely ignoring our previous fonts packaging guidelines and existing licensing rules. So applying new font guidelines twists quickly turned into distribution-wide operation. 1) Its advancement is now tracked[1] 2) A (long) FAQ was published to help packagers with no fonts experience[2] 3) To make sure documentation, QA and other groups are aware and help implement the changes they've been proposed as a Fedora 11 feature[3] 1. ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 2. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Shipping_fonts_in_Fedora_(FAQ) 3. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Repackaging_of_Fedora_fonts === Wishlist status === Our wishlist stood at 56 entries for last report. It has now reached 76 entries [1]. The current fonts packagers are clearly unable to cope with Fedora demands, fresh blood is needed before it moves into 100+ numbers. At the same time the respected lwn.net is running a front page article[2] listing more indispensable free or open fonts, some of them being neither in Fedora nor in our wishlist yet. Volunteers to package those or at least add them to our wishlist are welcome. The free and open font landscape is really moving now, and the quality and breadth of its font offerings is now a distribution differentiator. 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Font_wishlist 2. ? http://lwn.net/Articles/315872/ === Review status === At this time there are no un-reviewed font packages in Fedora bugzilla. However, several reviews have been open for quite a long time with their requesters not acting on review comments. Please do respond to review comments. Reviewing packages is tedious ungrateful work and getting no response after one is demotivating. === New packages === Ignoring renamings ctan-musixtex-fonts, dustin-dustismo-roman-fonts,dustin-dustismo-sans-fonts, hanazono-fonts, google-droid-sans-fonts, google-droid-sans-mono-font, google-droid-serif-fonts, serafettin-cartoon-fonts, and unikurd-web-font are now available in the repository. The most user-visible of those are probably the Droid fonts, but Dustimo had been waited for a long time. Several other fonts previously hidden deep inside apps have now been exposed as part of the ongoing F11 auditing and repackaging. The complete set of changes is documented as usual[1] Several new packagers worked on those and on other packages not pushed yet and I want to thank them publicly for their contribution to a better Fedora. 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_inclusion_history === Web font surveys === Fedora 10 shipped with an openjdk plugin that should be complete enough to run web font surveys. There is no reason left for Fedora users not to participate in them, and help web designers select fonts that work well with Fedora browsers. Please take the time to contribute to these[1] 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Linux_fonts_on_the_web:_CSS_and_font_surveys === Better fonts whiteboard === The desktop team has added a whiteboard page[1] to the wiki to help identify the software changes needed to improve Fedora fonts and text handling. Please contribute comments and complements to this page to help make Fedora better. 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop/Whiteboards/BetterFonts === Font autoinstallation === Rumors on IRC are that the feature is advancing fast. Hopefully we'll have finished cleaning up our font packages before they need to be rebuild to add auto-install metadata[1]. Automating this operation requires clean packages free of historic cruft. 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AutomaticFontInstallation And that's all for this issue, thank you for reading it to its end. == Planet Fedora == In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin === General === Chris Ball posted[1] a video and brief description of some patches to the Vino VNC server to support the multiple pointers on X over VNC, so there will be no more fighting over the mouse cursor when connecting into another computer. Mark J. Wielaard wrote[2] about what he does for a living at Red Hat, including a link to a LWN article that he wrote that provides a high-level overview of Systemtap. John J. McDonough described[3] some of the upcoming changes to the Fedora Docs project, including its leadership. Karsten Wade chimed in[4] with some more details including some additional history. Matthew Garrett discussed[5] some of the issues associated with power management under Linux and how "to make it sufficiently useful and inobtrusive that manual configuration is almost never required." Gary Benson shared[6],[7],[8],[9],[10] a series of articles that he wrote about the internals of Zero and Shark (projects which extend OpenJDK to let it run on new platforms without additional and often cumbersome low-level CPU-specific support). Martin Sourada developed[11] a set of scripts "which are intended to ease the life of echo-icon artist - they create new icons from template, are able to add icons/symlinks to echo icon theme and add manage their local git repository." Matthew Daniels mused[12] on the topic of "Social Responsibility" and getting technology out into people's hands everywhere and making all of this social hardware and software accessible. Jonathan Roberts posted[13],[14] some thoughts about how some of the upcoming major Gnome 3.0 changes might be able to handle things like locating information ("Ubiquitous Search") and saving information automatically. Richard Hughes created [15] a nice graphical UI front-end for Powertop. Adam Williamson expressed[16] some frustrations with the fact that the drivers for the Intel GMA 500 (Poulsbo) graphics chip (most notably used in the Dell Mini 12) don't seem to compile cleanly or integrate well with anything, and in fact only work on Ubuntu Netbook Remix. John Palmier proposed[17] "10 thoughts on what is needed for the Linux Desktop to win". 1. ? http://blog.printf.net/articles/2009/01/26/multi-pointer-remote-desktop 2. ? http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/2009/01/29/what-are-you-working-on-systemtap/ 3. ? http://wb8rcr.multiply.com/journal/item/87/The_relentless_march_of_change 4. ? http://iquaid.org/2009/01/31/leading-from-the-comfort-of-my-armchair/ 5. ? http://mjg59.livejournal.com/106581.html 6. ? http://gbenson.net/?p=116 7. ? http://gbenson.net/?p=118 8. ? http://gbenson.net/?p=119 9. ? http://gbenson.net/?p=121 10. ? http://gbenson.net/?p=122 11. ? http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2009/01/developing-new-library-for-icon-artists.html 12. ? http://danielsmw.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/social-responsibility/ 13. ? http://jonrob.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/gnome-30interfaces-in-general/ 14. ? http://jonrob.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/gnome-30interfaces-in-general-part-2/ 15. ? http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/01/30/gnome-power-manager-and-processor-wakeups/ 16. ? http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/01/30/intel-gma-500-poulsbo-graphics-on-linux-a-precise-and-comprehensive-summary-as-to-why-youre-screwed/ 17. ? http://www.j5live.com/2009/02/01/10-thoughts-on-what-is-needed-for-the-linux-desktop-to-win/ === How-To === Ian Weller offered[1] some tips on moving pages around on the Fedora Project Wiki as part of the new Wiki Tip of the Week[2] series. Kulbir Saini explained[3] "How to setup gitweb on Fedora/CentOS". Ding-Yi Chen provided[4] some quick instructions on how to sync between Evolution and a Sony Ericsson K510i phone. Steven Moix wrote[5] instructions on how to configure a GSynaptics touchpad (which is included with many laptops these days) now that there is no xorg.conf file for the GSynaptics utility to modify. 1. ? http://ianweller.org/2009/01/26/wiki-tip-for-the-week-of-jan-26-2009-moving-pages-with-ease/ 2. ? User:Ianweller/Wiki_tip_of_the_week 3. ? http://fedora.co.in/content/how-setup-gitweb-fedoracentos 4. ? http://dingyichen.livejournal.com/9382.html 5. ? http://www.alphatek.info/2009/01/29/gsynaptics-touchpad-on-fedora-10-hal/ == Developments == In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley === Fedora 11 Alpha May Be Delayed === Jesse Keating reported[1] that the Fedora 11 Alpha release date might slip due to some anaconda bugs which manifested themselves late in his testing on some architectures. A later post suggested[2] that installation using NFS was broken and that "[t]his likely means a slip, perhaps only a two day slip, of Alpha." More info to come either later this weekend or early next week. A bugzilla comment[3] from Warren Togami on a side-effect of trying to fix this problem by reverting to an earlier nfs-utils version warned "People should be aware that NFS as a server in F11 Alpha is broken. That is all." As of going to press on 2009-02-01 there was no further information available. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02394.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02395.html 3. ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show.bug.cgi?id=483375#c2 === GCC: Default ISA Flags and Glibc === Jakub Jelinek asked[1] whether the minimum CPU which would run code compiled by Fedora 11's GCC should be re-evaluated. A follow-on question was whether the minimum supported kernel version in glibc could be bumped to 2.6.29. Jakub held out the promise of potentially increased speed and decreased shared library sizes. A problem raised[2] by Kevin Kofler was that mock builds would no longer be able to run on older Fedora releases and that some VPSs would not be able to upgrade at all. Gerd Hoffman agreed[3]: "We just can't make the huge jump from .9 to .29. We have to do it smaller steps, considering kernel versions at least in supported Fedora versions, maybe also latest RHEL." Josh Boyer seemed[4] to believe that the required mass rebuild with GCC-4.4 would be difficult but possible. Mike McGrath outlined[5] the amount of work which would be needed. See this same FWN#161 "Dropping Support for i586 Architecture" for a related discussion. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01661.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01668.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01813.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01680.html 5. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01696.html === RPM Packagers: Too Many Unowned Directories === Michael Schwendt raised[1] the problem of unowned directories installed as a result of packagers unfamiliar with "how to include files vs. directories in RPM package %files lists." Colin Walters remembered[2] discussions which had suggested that if RPM were able to reference count directories there could be a technological fix. Separately Richard W.M. Jones made[3] a similar argument. Panu Matilainen seemed[4] willing to move this task to the top of his queue if it were sufficiently important. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02326.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02335.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02400.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02350.html === Lack of Update Information === A can of worms was opened[1] by Rahul Sundaram when he noticed that the update information provided by package maintainers was often unhelpful. He cited generic messages of the form "Update foo to upstream x.y.z" as a common problem and wondered if guidelines could improve the situation. Following some questions Rahul expanded[2] on the problem pointing out that package maintainers had the knowledge to tersely explain what upstream changes implied for ordinary users. He emphasized that he was concerned with the "description that is part of bodhi update and not the changelog which can be very brief." Chris Weyl put[3] forward the counter-argument that package maintainers had a difficult enough life already. Richard W.M. Jones wondered[4] if rpm could be altered to allow it to reference upstream changelogs which could be pulled out by other tools. Panu Matilainen averred[5] that while rpm was alterable Richard's proposed change would just dump the information into the rpm payload and it would thus not be available to users until after they had installed it. Further brainstorming seemed[6] to run into various practical dead ends. Subsequently Rahul published[7] a draft guideline which fanned the flames back to life. ThorstenLeemhuis asked[8] "Don't we have way [too] many guidelines and policies already? [...] Note that I don't disagree with the text that was proposed. My 2 cent: Put it as text into the wiki somewhere, write "best practices" on top of it (avoid the words "rules" and "guidelines") and add a link to the bodhi UI ("best practices for filling this box with information")." Rahul appeared to agree that this was the best course for the present and deferred to FESCo for the ultimate decision. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01643.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01648.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01742.html 4. ? htts://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01687.html 5. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01703.html 6. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01737.html 7. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01842.html 8. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01845.html === Electronic Design Automation Content Without Tools ? === Chitlesh Goorah redirected[1] a debate on Electronic Design Automation (EDA)[2] tools from FESCo to @fedora-devel. Chitlesh is the prime mover behind the Fedora Electronic Lab Spin[3]. He was concerned that FESCo had decided that packages in the OVM[4] format were barred from Fedora on the grounds that there was no FLOSS tool which could use them although they were licensed acceptably. Jef Spaleta explained[5] that there were subtle problems in the discussion as "[OVM] is code of some sort. The problem is we don't have a compiler or interpreter that can process the instructions. In the context of Fedora its code that can't be used." Kevin Kofler supplied[6] the appropriate guideline. Kevin Fenzi expressed[7] appreciation for Chitlesh's work on the Fedora Electronics Lab and asked if there was any use for OVM besides hooking it up with a non-Free simulator? Manuel Wolfshant argued[8] that OVM was i[...] interesting for a subset of the people interested in EDA" and that it should be provided for them. Horst von Brand disliked[9] the idea of mirrors carrying such a little-used package around and suggested that Manuel could just set up his own repository. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02364.html 2. ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_design_automation 3. ? http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ 4. ? http://www.ovmworld.org/overview.php 5. ? htts://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02369.html 6. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02377.html 7. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02470.html 8. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02480.html 9. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02489.html === Dropping Support for i586 Architecture ? === Following FESCo discussions[1] Bill Nottingham reported[2] that the supported architecture list was going to change. Important changes include building binaries only for i686 and above. There are concerns that older thin clients based on i586 hardware and the AMD Geode-based XO laptops may then be unsupported or unstable. Bill characterized the discussions as a follow-up to the compiler flag discussions (see this same FWN#161"GCC: Default ISA Flags and Glibc") and summarized the main points as: - install x86.64 kernel on 32-bit OS where appropriate - install PAE kernel on other 32-bit OS installs where appropriate - build only i686 and above for Fedora Jeremy Katz added[3] anecdotal reassurance that the XO should probably be fine with the i686 kernel and glibc. Robert Scheck wondered[4] what the definition of "where appropriate" was and what mechanism would be used to make this determination. Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski predicted[5] "[t]here's going to be some screaming from VIA C3 and AMD K6 users about this." His suggestion was true during an older similar discussion (see FWN#93[6]) in 2007 which concerned plans to drop shipping an i586 kernel. Suggested attempts to compensate by making the i686 kernel bootable on i586 architectures were thwarted as rpm balked at installing a kernel which violated its architecture check. Alan Cox was one of the strongest objectors to the possibility of thus losing support for i586 as he had many thin clients using that architecture. Doubt was cast during that thread as to whether the smolt statistics were believable. However, Alan has recently become an Intel employee (following other ex-Red Hat luminaries David Woodhouse and Arjan van de Ven) and did not contribute to the thread. The smolt statistics listed[7] on the feature page suggest that there are only 130 i586 users. Josh Boyer clarified[8] that no decision had yet been made by FESCo and that a vote would take place next week. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02328.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02345.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02382.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02355.html 5. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02378.html 6. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue93#No_More_586_Kernels 7. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ArchitectureSupport#What_about_the_i586_users_3F 8. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02383.html === Blinking Cursor Wastes Power === Matthew Garrett asked[1] for comments on the idea that the cursor should default to not blinking. The rationale was that several less Watts of power would be consumed. The suggestion seemed generally popular but Dominik `Rathann' Mierzejewski wished to retain the blinking cursor and expressed[2] a desire for more information on the methodology which Matthew had used. Bill Nottingham reminded[3] that it would still be possible to turn the cursor back on from this new default. Matthew provided[4] some of the requested details. Matthias Clasen suggested[5] changing a GTK setting which disables cursor blinking after a timeout. Josh Boyer worried[6] about other desktop environments and vttys. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02265.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02309.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02320.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02387.html 5. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02268.html 6. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg02287.html == Translation == This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee === FLP Meeting held on 27th January 2009 === The first meeting of FLP for the year 2009[1] was held on 2009-01-27 at 18:00 UTC. The discussion centered[2] around the current bugs and issues being faced by the L10n infrastructure. 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-January/msg00131.html === Website Translation Process Update === Ricky Zhou reminded[1] the list about the requirement of notification to be sent to the fedora-websites team for the inclusion of translations for a new language. It is to be noted, that for new languages the relevant language code is also required to be added to the LINGUAS file. However, the notification sent to the fedora-websites team ensures that the apache configuration is modified to activate the translations for the new language. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-January/msg00119.html === System-Config-Printer branch 1.1.x to be used for Fedora 11 === Tim Waugh announced[1] that the branch 1.1.x of System-Config-Printer is to be used for submitting translations. This branch has been activated for submission on translate.fedoraproject.org by Dimitris Glezos. Additionally, the obsolete branches for System-Config-Printer have been removed[2] from the submission interface. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-January/msg00135.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-January/msg00133.html === Fedora 11 Release Schedule Plans === John Poelstra has drafted[1] the Documentation and Translation Schedules for the upcoming Fedora 11 Release. The Translation Schedule has been based upon the Documentation Schedule. FLSCo member Noriko Mizumoto provided[2] feedback from the FLP about the Translation Schedule. Earlier during the week, Dimitris Glezos attended[3] the Fedora 11 Alpha Readiness Meeting. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-January/msg00130.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-January/msg00103.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-January/msg00116.html === Anaconda bug due to UTF characters === Ville Pekka Vainio mentioned the presence of a bug[1] in Anaconda caused[2] by the presence of UTF-8 characters more than 2 bytes wide. As a result the translated interface is damaged. 1. ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466644 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-January/msg00159.html === L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal === In response to the earlier discussions about the problems faced by the L10n infrastructure, Asgeir Frimannsson sent[1] in a proposal for a review roadmap of the current infrastructure[11]. He explained that based upon the outcome of this discussion, further plans can be determined about restructuring the infrastructure. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00000.html === New Member in FLP === Daniele joined[1] the Italian translation team in the FLP this week. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-January/msg00143.html == Infrastructure == This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-infrastructure-list http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure Contributing Writer: Huzaifa Sidhpurwala === Automating hosted projects? === Paul W. Frields asked[1] on the @fedora-infrastructure-list if it was possible to automate the creation of projects on the fedorahosted.org site. Since some potential contributors may need more immediate results and not wait for an admin to create the project. To this Seth Vidal replied[2] that a part of the benefit of this being manual is that the admin can do a bit of sanity check before the project is created. 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-January/msg00124.html 2. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-January/msg00125.html === CSI (Security Policy) === Mike McGrath said[1] on the @fedora-infrastructure-list that he had put the security policy CSI docs in the standard place[2] 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-January/msg00172.html 2. ? http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/security-policy/en-US == Artwork == In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei === Fedora 11 Visual Concepts === With the first milestone[1] for the Fedora 11 visual concept closing on February 1st, M?ir??n Duffy posted[2] on @fedora-art a first mockup "I'm thinking maybe somewhere more mountainous with some mists, and with some vines/plants growing up the columns with some sunbeams on them", which was warmly received by the rest of the team, which opted still for a more lively image, as Luya Tshimbalanga put it[3] "I think of desolation when I see that image with a ruins from old Greek temple (tend to get bored so easily) and a very dry land. That picture would mean Fedora after collapse. Greece is famous with its olive field so the land needs to be green. I see mountain that look like Olympia and the sky appears to be a god/goddess land. That image needs to be live, not dead." Following this "lively" concept, Konstantinos Antonakoglou came[4] with a photographic collage "I just want to point out the main concept, which is the combination of ancient Greece and nature (water, mountains with a lot of green)" and Bill Nottingham advanced the idea of using photographs[5] "is it possible/should we look for a full photo (appropriately licensed) that can be used?" At the same time, Samuele Storari tried[6] a different concept in the same Grecian spirit "For this theme I try to work on the Spartan 'Leonidas' idea, I work on the Acient Helm so we don't have discussion on violence or other not connected idea." 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#Key_Milestones 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-January/msg00106.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-January/msg00109.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-January/msg00111.html 5. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-January/msg00113.html 6. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-January/msg00118.html == Security Advisories == In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley === Fedora 10 Security Advisories === * dia-0.96.1-9.fc10[1] * kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10[2] * vnc-4.1.3-1.fc10[3] * glpi-0.71.5-1.fc10[4] * gedit-2.24.3-3.fc10[5] 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg00984.html 2. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg01001.html 3. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg01018.html 4. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg01157.html 5. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg01193.html === Fedora 9 Security Advisories === * vnc-4.1.3-1.fc9[1] * kernel-2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9[2] * dia-0.96.1-7.fc9[3] * glpi-0.71.5-1.fc9[4] * gedit-2.22.3-3.fc9[5] 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg01025.html 2. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg01045.html 3. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg01065.html 4. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg01095.html 5. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-January/msg01195.html == Virtualization == In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-virt, @fedora-xen-list, and @libvirt-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley === Enterprise Management Tools List === This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list === New Release virt-manager 0.6.1 === Cole Robinson announced[1] a new image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-manager release, version 0.6.1. Virtual Machine Manager provides a graphical tool for administering virtual machines for KVM, Xen, and QEmu. Start, stop, add or remove virtual devices, connect to a graphical or serial console, and see resource usage statistics for existing VMs on local or remote machines. Uses libvirt as the backend management API. New features: * VM disk and network stats reporting (Guido Gunther) * VM Migration support (Shigeki Sakamoto) * Support for adding sound devices to an existing VM * Enumerate host devices attached to an existing VM * Allow specifying a device model when adding a network device to an existing VM * Combine the serial console view with the VM Details window * Allow connection to multiple VM serial consoles * Bug fixes and many minor improvements. [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-January/msg00067.html === New Release virtinst 0.4.1 === Cole Robinson announced[1] a new virtinst release, version 0.4.1. image:Echo-package-16px.pngpython-virtinst is a module that helps build and install libvirt based virtual machines. Currently supports KVM, QEmu and Xen virtual machines. Package includes several command line utilities, including virt-install (build and install new VMs) and virt-clone (clone an existing virtual machine). New features: * Add virt-image -> vmx support to virt-convert, replacing virt-pack (Joey Boggs) * Add disk checksum support to virt-image (Joey Boggs) * Enhanced URL install support: Debian Xen paravirt, Ubuntu kernel and boot.iso, Mandriva kernel, and Solaris Xen Paravirt (Guido Gunther, John Levon, Cole Robinson) * Expanded test suite * Numerous bug fixes, cleanups, and minor improvements [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-January/msg00068.html === Fedora Virtualization List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. === Fedora Virt Status Update === True to his word, Mark McLoughlin posted[1] another weekly update on the status of virtualization development in Fedora. Some highlights included: * F11 Alpha Blockers - Workaround found for "unsynchronized TSC" issue[2] which caused guests on certain hosts to hang or crash. * New release of image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt coming very soon. It's out now. * The KVM PCI Device Assignment[3] feature for F11 "received a very positive reception from FESCo", and "basic device assignment seems to be working." * "Related to PCI device assignment are Intel VT-d issues that have been reported recently. Basically, on some machines ... VT-d support is causing serious [problems] and, in one case, data loss." * New F11 feature page created for sVirt.[4] "sVirt integrates SELinux with the Fedora virtualization stack". * New patches from Jeremy Fitzhardinge reduce the overhead of enabling paravirt_ops on bare-metal by 75% in testing. * Bug count climbed from 186 to 191. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-January/msg00063.html 2. ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/475598 3. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_PCI_Device_Assignment 4. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SVirt_Mandatory_Access_Control === Fedora Xen List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list. === Xen Users Future on Fedora === Evan Lavelle might have struck a nerve when wondering[1] if those who have invested years in image:Echo-package-16px.pngxen on Fedora have been "shafted". "Xen isn't flavour of the month around here, but I assumed there were good reasons for that. Now, rather belatedly, I've found" that Red Hat acquired Qumranet and image:Echo-package-16px.pngKVM. (FWN #143)[2] Neil Thompson thought[3] not. "Shafted?...I don't think so. We're just in a blip at the moment." Neil pointed out that "RHEL5, which has a number of years left, includes xen - I don't think Red Hat are going to mess their corporate clients around by removing it. The problem with F8 is that the image:Echo-package-16px.pngkernel people could no longer drag an obsolete (2.6.21) kernel around just for xen, and decided to concentrate on helping get it into the mainstream kernel. This[4] has taken longer than expected." Jan ONDREJ was also concerned[5] that, "KVM is still not a replacement for paravirtualized machines and I think fully virtualized KVM will be slower like a paravirtualized XEN." Richard W.M. Jones countered[6] "KVM is a great replacement for Xen. It's much easier to use for a start -- no more rebooting into a completely separate kernel hypervisor. As long as you have the virtio drivers in the guest, which is the default for all new Linux distros, performance is roughly the same." Apropos to the topic, but on another list, Mark McLoughlin explained[7] "Para-virtualization isn't always better. KVM uses full virtualization, meaning that it uses the processor's support for virtualization. This means you can run an unmodified guest OS on KVM. If you can modify the guest OS, then KVM does allow you to use paravirtualization for some performance sensitive operations - so e.g. we've got pvclock, pv MMU and virtio devices. Don't get tied up in marketing terminology - try both and decide for yourself which works best for you." Support for dom0 is targeted[8] for kernel 2.6.29, but the changelogs[9] for the release candidates don't seem to indicate completion yet. Gerd Hoffmann confirmed[10] that "...most of the dom0 stuff missed the boat. Some prelimary stuff might be in though..." adding that "The pv_ops/dom0 kernel has some not-yet debugged storage issues (disk controller either fails after a while or doesn't work at all), which is the major stumbling block right now." Daniel P. Berrange, of Red Hat Engineering, detailed the history of Xen on Fedora and explained "while it is definitely unfortunate that we don't have a Xen Dom0 kernel in Fedora 9/10, we are *not* trying to shaft anyone & will re-introduce Xen Dom0 kernels to Fedora when they become available." ... "It [is] still hard to say just when these will be accepted upstream, but there is a semi-reasonable [chance] we'll be able to turn Xen Dom0 back on in Fedora 11 kernels."[11] 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00031.html 2. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue143#Red_Hat_Acquires_Makers_of_KVM.2C_Qumranet_Inc 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00033.html 4. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0 5. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00032.html 6. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00041.html 7. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-January/msg00063.html 8. ? http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps 9. ? http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.29-rc2 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.29-rc1 10. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00056.html 11. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00036.html === Migrating Xen DomU to KVM Guest === Talk of the future of Xen on Fedora led to talk of migrating guests to KVM. Fortunately, migrating a virtual machine from Xen to KVM is straight forward. Well, more or less. Richard W.M. Jones explained[1] "Install a recent Linux kernel in the guest, adjust the [libvirt] configuration file, and reboot." Alternatively, image:Echo-package-16px.pngxenner will enable running "the Xen PV guest unchanged (ie. without installing a new guest kernel)." * Ensure the guest image:Echo-package-16px.pngkernel is new enough to support virtio network drivers (kernel >= 2.6.25) * change the domain , , and fields[2] - 'virsh edit ' * "tell[3] the host to give the guest a virtio network card - change the NIC " Richard finally noted[4] "For newly installed guests, recent anaconda just works everything out for you and puts the correct drivers into initrd." Mark McLoughlin provided the mkinitrd command to build the appropriate initrd in existing guests: 'mkinitrd --with virtio_pci --with virtio_blk -f /boot/initrd-$(kernelversion) $(kernelversion)' "You only need to do this once. After that, if a new kernel is installed while you're booted off a virtio disk, then mkinitrd will include the modules automatically." Emre Erenoglu noted[5] "You will also need to specify /dev/vdX on the kernel root= line and make sure your init script inside your initrd triggers the virtio drivers at boot so that the /dev/vdX are created." Mark McLoughlin added[6] a caveat. "the F9 x86_64 xen kernel didn't have support for running 32 bit binaries like grub, so the bootloader would never have been installed into the MBR. That works fine for pygrub, but not with KVM's real BIOS." Also see this[7] guide to converting to virtio drivers. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00041.html 2. ? http://libvirt.org/drvqemu.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00048.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00053.html 5. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00058.html 6. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-January/msg00078.html 7. ? http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Virtio === Libvirt List === This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. === New Release libvirt 0.6.0 === Daniel Veillard announced[1] a new image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt release, version 0.6.0. Libvirt is a C toolkit to interact with the virtualization capabilities of recent versions of Linux (and other OSes). New features: * thread safety of the API and event handling (Daniel Berrange) * allow QEmu domains to survive daemon restart (Guido Gunther) * extended logging capabilities * support copy-on-write storage volumes (Daniel Berrange) * support of storage cache control options for QEmu/KVM (Daniel Berrange) Improvements: * driver infrastructure and locking (Daniel Berrange) * Test driver infrastructure (Daniel Berrange) * parallelism in the daemon and associated config (Daniel Berrange) * virsh help cleanups (Jim Meyering) * logrotate daemon logs (Guido Gunther) * more regression tests (Jim Meyering) * QEmu SDL graphics (Itamar Heim) * add --version flag to daemon (Dave Allan) * memory consumption cleanup (Dave Allan) * QEmu pid file and XML states for daemon restart (Guido Gunther) * gnulib updates (Jim Meyering and Dan Berrange) * PCI passthrough for KVM (Jason Krieg) * generic internal thread API (Daniel Berrange) * RHEL-5 specific Xen configure option and code (Markus Armbruster) * save domain state as string in status file (Guido Gunther) * add locking to all API entry points (Daniel Berrange) * new ref counting APIs (Daniel Berrange) * IP address for Xen bridges (John Levon) * driver format for disk file types (Daniel Berrange) * improve QEmu/KVM tun/tap performances (Mark McLoughlin) * enable floppies for Xen fully virt (John Levon) * support VNC password settings for QEmu/KVM (Daniel Berrange) * qemu driver version reporting (Daniel Berrange) There were also dozens of cleanups, documentation enhancements, portability and bug fixes. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-January/msg00863.html ==== end FWN 161 ==== ----- Pascal Calarco, Fedora Ambassador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco From dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu Tue Feb 3 23:25:06 2009 From: dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu (Dale Bewley) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:25:06 -0800 Subject: Fedora Weekly News meeting summary 2009-01-30 In-Reply-To: References: <49839689.40600@nd.edu> Message-ID: <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 16:04 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Pascal Calarco wrote: > > * Pascal will update the FWN StyleGuide to indicate that person > > references should ideally reference the appropriate User: wiki page, > > if it exists. If it does not, we will use CamelCase references as a > > fallback. Ian Weller tells me FAS users can be queried on IRC by messaging zodbot: (02:56:24 PM) ianweller: .fas karsten wade (02:56:25 PM) zodbot: ianweller: quaid 'Karsten Wade' .... (02:56:29 PM) ianweller: .wikilink quaid (02:56:31 PM) zodbot: ianweller: [[User:quaid|Karsten Wade]] This does seem to be handy, if not outisde typical workflow. It doesn't seem complete though: (03:08:31 PM) dbewley1: .fas dale bewley (03:08:33 PM) zodbot: dbewley1: 'dale bewley' Not Found! I checked and I have the 'privacy' box ticked in FAS, so I guess that's why I'm missing. I see that to appease the wiki czar, we've so far decided to link to [[User:FAS_LOGIN|Full Name]] and fall back to camel case after a manual query fails. To be honest, I'm not very inclined to search for FAS usernames given a full name just to link them from the article. I think it would be a little too onerous. If camel case names are deemed evil, should we discuss how valuable it is to have name links at all? Generally I'm all for the more links the better, but I'd prefer to keep things as easy as possible on us writers. Maybe we can discuss beat writer personal workflows. Describe our own habits, and pick up some tips from others. Probably best to start a new thread for that. -- Dale Bewley - Unix Administrator - Shields Library - UC Davis GPG: 0xB098A0F3 0D5A 9AEB 43F4 F84C 7EFD 1753 064D 2583 B098 A0F3 From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Wed Feb 4 02:10:20 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:10:20 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News meeting summary 2009-01-30 In-Reply-To: <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> References: <49839689.40600@nd.edu> <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <1233713420.1370.1298396419@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Dale Bewley wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 16:04 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Pascal Calarco wrote: >> > * Pascal will update the FWN StyleGuide to indicate that person >> > references should ideally reference the appropriate User: wiki page, >> > if it exists. If it does not, we will use CamelCase references as a >> > fallback. > > Ian Weller tells me FAS users can be queried on IRC by messaging zodbot: > > (02:56:24 PM) ianweller: .fas karsten wade > (02:56:25 PM) zodbot: ianweller: quaid 'Karsten Wade' .... > (02:56:29 PM) ianweller: .wikilink quaid > (02:56:31 PM) zodbot: ianweller: [[User:quaid|Karsten Wade]] > > This does seem to be handy, if not outisde typical workflow. It doesn't > seem complete though: > > (03:08:31 PM) dbewley1: .fas dale bewley > (03:08:33 PM) zodbot: dbewley1: 'dale bewley' Not Found! > > I checked and I have the 'privacy' box ticked in FAS, so I guess that's > why I'm missing. > > I see that to appease the wiki czar, we've so far decided to link to > [[User:FAS_LOGIN|Full Name]] and fall back to camel case after a manual > query fails. > > To be honest, I'm not very inclined to search for FAS usernames given a > full name just to link them from the article. I think it would be a > little too onerous. If camel case names are deemed evil, should we > discuss how valuable it is to have name links at all? Generally I'm all > for the more links the better, but I'd prefer to keep things as easy as > possible on us writers. I'm in agreement here I think. Unless there's an easy way to find people's names or guess them then it becomes time-consuming to find them in the wiki. I was using the wiki advanced search with the User box ticked and gave up after doing a couple because it took so long. By comparison it's pretty easy to guess people's CamelCase name in general. The only way I can think of around this is to obtain a dump of the FAS usernames correlated to the surname/familyname of the user. We could probably then use this to build dictionaries for whatever texteditors we use (see next point). > Maybe we can discuss beat writer personal workflows. Describe our own > habits, and pick up some tips from others. Probably best to start a new > thread for that. The workflows do indeed make a big difference to what we expect or can achieve from the above changes. I'll look for the other thread or go start it now. Mine's a bit wonky but it had distinct advantages until the above changes! Best wishes, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Wed Feb 4 02:31:08 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:31:08 -0500 Subject: Workflows: Impact of style changes. Message-ID: <1233714668.5680.1298396553@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi all, Dale suggested in another thread that it would be interesting to discuss our work-flows. The topic which prompted this was our new practice of trying to adhere to the use of the User:fasname convention to refer to named participants in conversations. Previously we have just used WikiNames, which for the most part are modeled FirstnameLastname. The only way to find these User:fasnames is to search the wiki. The WikiNames are easy to guess most of the time and require less searching. I asked in our recent IRC meeting about workflows and was told that most people just edit the wiki directly. More power to you! I think I would go nuts trying to do that. I have been using the following chain of tools. Writing my Beat: 1. LyX -> 2. ASCII export -> 3. Vim -> 4. Firefox with "It's All Text" extension to edit wiki. Preparing mailshot: 1. Firefox -> 2. Vim LyX: It's main advantage for me was that I could move paragraphs and sentences around and references would automatically be re-numbered. A disadvantage was some weird treatment of some diphthongs during export to ASCII. Something I "kept meaning to fix". Vim: I have a bunch of macros set up to do things such as: convert CamelCase to [[CamelCase|Camel Case]] and other handy wiki markup. It's also great for the mailshot for reformatting the cut and paste from the wiki page as it allows me to change the indentations in blocks easily. Change how the headings are formatted and some other stuff. It's All Text: Suggested to me aeons ago by Karsten Wade. It allows you to define an editor of your choice (in my case Vim) to be opened to edit any text area on a webpage. The editor runs as normal except that when you save/write it pipes the content back into the textarea of the webpage saving you an irritating cut and paste. As things stand now I have a nice dictionary of users and their camel case names and Vim warns me with highlighting if there's a completely new name. This saves me time in searching/checking names. If there's no way to get a text file containing fasnames and first+lastnames from the wiki then I'm condemned to searching for each one manually unless I learn them! As far as my current workflow goes this change is a backward step. I'm going to see if I can automate something based on the zodbot stuff that Dale mentioned. The references change means that using LyX is now no longer necessary. I can just cut out that step and use Vim. As far as I'm concerned that's great. The only possible thing is that I need to figure out a way to fold/hide the reference so that it's visually less intrusive inline and I can concentrate on the flow of the text. Anyway, that's probably more than anyone wanted to know. But I heartily recommend the "It's All Text" extension[1]. 1. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4125 Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 4 08:06:44 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:06:44 +0200 Subject: Fedora Weekly News meeting summary 2009-01-30 In-Reply-To: <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> References: <49839689.40600@nd.edu> <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <49894C94.6010407@nicubunu.ro> Dale Bewley wrote: > > This does seem to be handy, if not outisde typical workflow. It doesn't > seem complete though: > > (03:08:31 PM) dbewley1: .fas dale bewley > (03:08:33 PM) zodbot: dbewley1: 'dale bewley' Not Found! > > I checked and I have the 'privacy' box ticked in FAS, so I guess that's > why I'm missing. I can find you with a partial search, don't know why your complete name is not listed: Feb 04 10:00:14 .fas dale Feb 04 10:00:14 westerj 'John Westerdale' - dale '' - pablomvb 'pablo manuel v?squez bardales' - dkruse 'Dalen Kruse' - gerrygoodale 'Gerry Goodale' - bdale 'Bdale Garbee' - krupa 'Dale Krupa' - dalecanter 'Dale Canter' - dghartung 'Dale (2 more messages) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From stickster at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 13:47:50 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:47:50 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News meeting summary 2009-01-30 In-Reply-To: <49894C94.6010407@nicubunu.ro> References: <49839689.40600@nd.edu> <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> <49894C94.6010407@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090204134750.GK4434@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 10:06:44AM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Dale Bewley wrote: >> >> This does seem to be handy, if not outisde typical workflow. It doesn't >> seem complete though: >> >> (03:08:31 PM) dbewley1: .fas dale bewley >> (03:08:33 PM) zodbot: dbewley1: 'dale bewley' Not Found! >> >> I checked and I have the 'privacy' box ticked in FAS, so I guess that's >> why I'm missing. > > I can find you with a partial search, don't know why your complete name > is not listed: > > Feb 04 10:00:14 .fas dale > Feb 04 10:00:14 westerj 'John Westerdale' > - dale '' - pablomvb 'pablo manuel v?squez bardales' > - dkruse 'Dalen Kruse' - gerrygoodale > 'Gerry Goodale' - bdale 'Bdale Garbee' - > krupa 'Dale Krupa' - dalecanter 'Dale Canter' > - dghartung 'Dale (2 more messages) Dale, you might want to visit FAS and fill in that info: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/edit/ -- Paul W. 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Another possibility would be to have CamelCase redirects for each FAS user who gets wiki access. Cost/benefit...? Not sure. -- Dale Bewley - Unix Administrator - Shields Library - UC Davis GPG: 0xB098A0F3 0D5A 9AEB 43F4 F84C 7EFD 1753 064D 2583 B098 A0F3 From david.nalley at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 4 16:24:18 2009 From: david.nalley at fedoraproject.org (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:24:18 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News meeting summary 2009-01-30 In-Reply-To: <1233764414.11724.33.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> References: <49839689.40600@nd.edu> <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> <49894C94.6010407@nicubunu.ro> <20090204134750.GK4434@localhost.localdomain> <1233764414.11724.33.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Dale Bewley wrote: > On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 08:47 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> Dale, you might want to visit FAS and fill in that info: >> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/edit/ > > Actually, that info is and has been in there. Full name field is > complete. I also unchecked the privacy box yesterday, but it still > didn't fix the zodbot .fas search. > > Another possibility would be to have CamelCase redirects for each FAS > user who gets wiki access. Cost/benefit...? Not sure. > > -- > Dale Bewley - Unix Administrator - Shields Library - UC Davis > GPG: 0xB098A0F3 0D5A 9AEB 43F4 F84C 7EFD 1753 064D 2583 B098 A0F3 > Virtually every FAS user gets wiki access - (actually you have to complete the CLA, but it's virtually the same thing) There are something like 12000 user accounts now. From pcalarco at nd.edu Wed Feb 4 20:54:41 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:54:41 -0500 Subject: Welcome Larry Cafiero to the Fedora News Team! Message-ID: <498A0091.8060509@nd.edu> Folks, I am very pleased to let you all know that Larry Cafiero has volunteered to take up the Ambassador beat for FWN. Beyond Larry's long association with the Fedora Project, he also has over 30 years of journalism that he brings. This will help us greatly as we explore how best to improve FWN and possibly tie it in with Fedora Magazine. Welcome, Larry! - pascal From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Thu Feb 5 00:56:09 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:56:09 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News meeting summary 2009-01-30 In-Reply-To: <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> References: <49839689.40600@nd.edu> <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <1233795369.564.1298604119@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:25:06 -0800, "Dale Bewley" said: > Ian Weller tells me FAS users can be queried on IRC by messaging zodbot: > > (02:56:24 PM) ianweller: .fas karsten wade > (02:56:25 PM) zodbot: ianweller: quaid 'Karsten Wade' .... > (02:56:29 PM) ianweller: .wikilink quaid > (02:56:31 PM) zodbot: ianweller: [[User:quaid|Karsten Wade]] Is zodbot supposed to be on #fedora or on some other channel? Could you supply more information about using it? I seem to get a message from "zeebot" telling me I am not recognized when I try to use it. Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From kam at kamsalisbury.com Thu Feb 5 00:58:28 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (Kam Salisbury) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:58:28 -0500 Subject: Ambassadors Coverage Message-ID: <818ac3c70902041658q699bde0ega192f779a760df11@mail.gmail.com> Hi Pascal, I saw your line in the #161 issue about covering Ambassador happenings. I am part of that group and are interested & motivated. How do I begin? -- Kam Salisbury http://kamsalisbury.com GPG key: FAF1751E -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Thu Feb 5 01:13:23 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:13:23 -0500 Subject: Ambassadors Coverage In-Reply-To: <818ac3c70902041658q699bde0ega192f779a760df11@mail.gmail.com> References: <818ac3c70902041658q699bde0ega192f779a760df11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <498A3D33.1050602@nd.edu> Greetings, Kam! Wow, we just accepted Larry Cafiero as the new ambassador beat writer starting this next issue. We likely do still have an opening for the marketing beat, if you are interested with this. The work there is to cover and summarize discussions that take place on the fedora-marketing-list. This is a really key role for FWN and it would be great if you would be interested in picking this beat up. Let us know if you have any questions. Thanks! - pascal Kam Salisbury wrote: > Hi Pascal, I saw your line in the #161 issue about covering Ambassador > happenings. I am part of that group and are interested & motivated. How > do I begin? > > -- > Kam Salisbury > http://kamsalisbury.com > GPG key: FAF1751E > From kam at kamsalisbury.com Thu Feb 5 01:54:35 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (Kam Salisbury) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:54:35 -0500 Subject: Ambassadors Coverage In-Reply-To: <498A3D33.1050602@nd.edu> References: <818ac3c70902041658q699bde0ega192f779a760df11@mail.gmail.com> <498A3D33.1050602@nd.edu> Message-ID: <818ac3c70902041754he36f99pd01f7c15bb4ff738@mail.gmail.com> Sure! I followed their happenings most of last year. Please sign me up! Where do I update the "beat? When is the publishing deadline? Kam On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Pascal Calarco wrote: > Greetings, Kam! > > Wow, we just accepted Larry Cafiero as the new ambassador beat writer > starting this next issue. We likely do still have an opening for the > marketing beat, if you are interested with this. The work there is to cover > and summarize discussions that take place on the fedora-marketing-list. > This is a really key role for FWN and it would be great if you would be > interested in picking this beat up. Let us know if you have any questions. > Thanks! > > - pascal > > > Kam Salisbury wrote: > >> Hi Pascal, I saw your line in the #161 issue about covering Ambassador >> happenings. I am part of that group and are interested & motivated. How do I >> begin? >> >> -- >> Kam Salisbury >> http://kamsalisbury.com >> GPG key: FAF1751E >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-news-list mailing list > Fedora-news-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-news-list > -- Kam Salisbury http://kamsalisbury.com GPG key: FAF1751E -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Thu Feb 5 02:05:21 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:05:21 -0500 Subject: Ambassadors Coverage In-Reply-To: <818ac3c70902041754he36f99pd01f7c15bb4ff738@mail.gmail.com> References: <818ac3c70902041658q699bde0ega192f779a760df11@mail.gmail.com> <498A3D33.1050602@nd.edu> <818ac3c70902041754he36f99pd01f7c15bb4ff738@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <498A4961.9050606@nd.edu> Thanks Kam -- I have updated the beat roster at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats Please check out the FWN workflow at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/WorkFlow This explains most of what the process is. Please let us know if you have any questions! Welcome to the team! - pascal Kam Salisbury wrote: > Sure! I followed their happenings most of last year. Please sign me up! > > Where do I update the "beat? When is the publishing deadline? > > Kam > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Pascal Calarco > wrote: > > Greetings, Kam! > > Wow, we just accepted Larry Cafiero as the new ambassador beat > writer starting this next issue. We likely do still have an opening > for the marketing beat, if you are interested with this. The work > there is to cover and summarize discussions that take place on the > fedora-marketing-list. This is a really key role for FWN and it > would be great if you would be interested in picking this beat up. > Let us know if you have any questions. Thanks! > > - pascal > > > Kam Salisbury wrote: > > Hi Pascal, I saw your line in the #161 issue about covering > Ambassador happenings. I am part of that group and are > interested & motivated. How do I begin? > > -- > Kam Salisbury > http://kamsalisbury.com > GPG key: FAF1751E > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-news-list mailing list > Fedora-news-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-news-list > > > > > -- > Kam Salisbury > http://kamsalisbury.com > GPG key: FAF1751E > From kam at kamsalisbury.com Thu Feb 5 03:47:28 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (Kam Salisbury) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:47:28 -0500 Subject: Ambassadors Coverage In-Reply-To: <498A4961.9050606@nd.edu> References: <818ac3c70902041658q699bde0ega192f779a760df11@mail.gmail.com> <498A3D33.1050602@nd.edu> <818ac3c70902041754he36f99pd01f7c15bb4ff738@mail.gmail.com> <498A4961.9050606@nd.edu> Message-ID: <818ac3c70902041947v11a52647i8bc58e0d59d1cbb6@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Pascal Calarco wrote: > Thanks Kam -- I have updated the beat roster at: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats > > Please check out the FWN workflow at: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/WorkFlow > > This explains most of what the process is. Please let us know if you have > any questions! Welcome to the team! > > - pascal > > Kam Salisbury wrote: > >> Sure! I followed their happenings most of last year. Please sign me up! >> >> Where do I update the "beat? When is the publishing deadline? >> >> Kam >> >> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Pascal Calarco > pcalarco at nd.edu>> wrote: >> >> Greetings, Kam! >> >> Wow, we just accepted Larry Cafiero as the new ambassador beat >> writer starting this next issue. We likely do still have an opening >> for the marketing beat, if you are interested with this. The work >> there is to cover and summarize discussions that take place on the >> fedora-marketing-list. This is a really key role for FWN and it >> would be great if you would be interested in picking this beat up. >> Let us know if you have any questions. Thanks! >> >> - pascal >> >> >> Kam Salisbury wrote: >> >> Hi Pascal, I saw your line in the #161 issue about covering >> Ambassador happenings. I am part of that group and are >> interested & motivated. How do I begin? >> >> -- Kam Salisbury >> http://kamsalisbury.com >> GPG key: FAF1751E >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-news-list mailing list >> Fedora-news-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-news-list >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kam Salisbury >> http://kamsalisbury.com >> GPG key: FAF1751E >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-news-list mailing list > Fedora-news-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-news-list > Thanks Pascal, I have edited https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/Marketing a bit (getting the feet wet) and will continue to flesh out the conent in preparatino for the Sunday evening deadline. I welcome feedback from others on the list. 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I followed their happenings most of last year. Please sign me up! >>> >>> Where do I update the "beat? When is the publishing deadline? >>> >>> Kam >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Pascal Calarco >> > wrote: >>> >>> Greetings, Kam! >>> >>> Wow, we just accepted Larry Cafiero as the new ambassador beat >>> writer starting this next issue. We likely do still have an opening >>> for the marketing beat, if you are interested with this. The work >>> there is to cover and summarize discussions that take place on the >>> fedora-marketing-list. This is a really key role for FWN and it >>> would be great if you would be interested in picking this beat up. >>> Let us know if you have any questions. Thanks! >>> >>> - pascal >>> >>> >>> Kam Salisbury wrote: >>> >>> Hi Pascal, I saw your line in the #161 issue about covering >>> Ambassador happenings. I am part of that group and are >>> interested & motivated. How do I begin? >>> >>> -- Kam Salisbury >>> http://kamsalisbury.com >>> GPG key: FAF1751E >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-news-list mailing list >>> Fedora-news-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-news-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kam Salisbury >>> http://kamsalisbury.com >>> GPG key: FAF1751E >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-news-list mailing list >> Fedora-news-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-news-list > > Thanks Pascal, I have edited > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/Marketing a bit (getting the feet > wet) and will continue to flesh out the conent in preparatino for the Sunday > evening deadline. > > I welcome feedback from others on the list. I respect you opinion if you > share it. > > -- > Kam Salisbury > http://kamsalisbury.com > GPG key: FAF1751E > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-news-list mailing list > Fedora-news-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-news-list > > Kam Thanks for picking that up!!! From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Feb 5 06:51:20 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:51:20 +0200 Subject: Fedora Weekly News meeting summary 2009-01-30 In-Reply-To: <1233795369.564.1298604119@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <49839689.40600@nd.edu> <1233703506.11724.22.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> <1233795369.564.1298604119@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <498A8C68.1070401@nicubunu.ro> Oisin Feeley wrote: > > Is zodbot supposed to be on #fedora or on some other channel? Could you > supply more information about using it? I seem to get a message from > "zeebot" telling me I am not recognized when I try to use it. I am not on #fedora (too much traffic) but I found (and used) him on #fedora-meeting -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu Fri Feb 6 21:40:23 2009 From: dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu (Dale Bewley) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:40:23 -0800 Subject: Workflows: Impact of style changes. In-Reply-To: <1233714668.5680.1298396553@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1233714668.5680.1298396553@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1233956423.11724.121.camel@tofu.lib.ucdavis.edu> On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 21:31 -0500, Oisin Feeley wrote: > I asked in our recent IRC meeting about workflows and was told that most > people just edit the wiki directly. More power to you! I think I would > go nuts trying to do that. I have been using the following chain of > tools. > > Writing my Beat: > 1. LyX -> 2. ASCII export -> 3. Vim -> 4. Firefox with "It's All Text" > extension to edit wiki. I have a blank copy of the wiki text for my beat which I insert to get started. I use "It's All Text" to fire up gvim and begin editing. I browse through the mailing list archives and copy interesting threads. I wish there were some header in the emails in my inbox which would let me derive their archive URL... > As things stand now I have a nice dictionary of users and their camel > case names and Vim warns me with highlighting if there's a completely > new name. This saves me time in searching/checking names. If there's no In all my years I have never bothered to learn about macros in vi. Care to share how you do that? If I can keep a dictionary of name to username mappings and quickly/easily reference it with a macro, that may be a tolerable level of pain. > The references change means that using LyX is now no longer necessary. I > can just cut out that step and use Vim. As far as I'm concerned that's > great. The only possible thing is that I need to figure out a way to > fold/hide the reference so that it's visually less intrusive inline and > I can concentrate on the flow of the text. I'm very happy with the references change. Wow. Why didn't we think of that earlier. :) -- Dale Bewley - Unix Administrator - Shields Library - UC Davis GPG: 0xB098A0F3 0D5A 9AEB 43F4 F84C 7EFD 1753 064D 2583 B098 A0F3 From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 8 13:43:54 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:13:54 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Ask Fedora : Linux package management] In-Reply-To: <1233441097.23247.7.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> References: <4975E842.8090104@fedoraproject.org> <1232464233.30616.55.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> <4984C129.7000206@fedoraproject.org> <1233441097.23247.7.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> Message-ID: <498EE19A.60902@fedoraproject.org> Chris Tyler wrote: > Hi Rahul, > > Yes -- I wrote an answer for last week but was late posting it. I put it > on the wiki this morning (probably too verbose and should be shrunk, and > the links are in the old format). Ping... Rahul From chris at tylers.info Mon Feb 9 01:39:40 2009 From: chris at tylers.info (Chris Tyler) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:39:40 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Ask Fedora : Linux package management] In-Reply-To: <498EE19A.60902@fedoraproject.org> References: <4975E842.8090104@fedoraproject.org> <1232464233.30616.55.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> <4984C129.7000206@fedoraproject.org> <1233441097.23247.7.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> <498EE19A.60902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1234143580.15836.116.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 19:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote > Chris Tyler wrote: > > Hi Rahul, > > > > Yes -- I wrote an answer for last week but was late posting it. I put it > > on the wiki this morning (probably too verbose and should be shrunk, and > > the links are in the old format). > > Ping... > > Rahul Hi Rahul, it's still there (in [[FWN/Beats/AskFedora]] ), feel free to use/edit/discard as you see fit. -Chris From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 9 03:07:55 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:07:55 -0500 Subject: FWN #162 status Message-ID: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi all, I've edited the following but have not added them to the LatestIssue page. I'll be back at about 15:00 UTC on Monday 2009-02-09 to finish up, so Pascal or Huzaifa if you want to go ahead then please do, but otherwise I've got this one. FWN/Beats/PlanetFedora Adam Batkin COMPLETE FWN/Beats/Ambassadors Larry Cafiero COMPLETE FWN/Beats/Developments Oisin Feeley COMPLETE FWN/Beats/Artwork Nicu Buculei COMPLETE FWN/Beats/SecurityWeek Josh Bressers COMPLETE FWN/Beats/SecurityAdvisories David Nalley COMPLETE Rahul and Chris: I'm not sure whether the current material in AskFedora is good to go? It reads like it although I'll need to convert all the references to our new style. Thanks again everyone for some very enjoyable reads this week. It's good to welcome back Josh Bressers with the Security Week beat and I'm looking forward to doing justice to digging further into Adam's PlanetFedora links. Have a great week! Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From chris at tylers.info Mon Feb 9 03:22:13 2009 From: chris at tylers.info (Chris Tyler) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:22:13 -0500 Subject: FWN #162 status In-Reply-To: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1234149733.15836.154.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 22:07 -0500, Oisin Feeley wrote: > Rahul and Chris: I'm not sure whether the current material in AskFedora > is good to go? It reads like it although I'll need to convert all the > references to our new style. I just converted the references. I think it's good to go, as long as you don't think it's too long. -Chris From chris at tylers.info Mon Feb 9 03:39:28 2009 From: chris at tylers.info (Chris Tyler) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:39:28 -0500 Subject: FWN #162 status In-Reply-To: <1234149733.15836.154.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> References: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1234149733.15836.154.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> Message-ID: <1234150768.15836.157.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 22:22 -0500, Chris Tyler wrote: > On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 22:07 -0500, Oisin Feeley wrote: > > Rahul and Chris: I'm not sure whether the current material in AskFedora > > is good to go? It reads like it although I'll need to convert all the > > references to our new style. > > I just converted the references. I think it's good to go, as long as you > don't think it's too long. Oops, looks like I converted the references while Rahul was making some edits, and the reference conversion got reverted. Rahul, would you change the references to http://foo with at the end? -Chris From dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu Mon Feb 9 05:15:24 2009 From: dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu (Dale Bewley) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:15:24 -0800 Subject: FWN #162 status In-Reply-To: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1234156524.22576.0.camel@seitan.home.bewley.net> virtualization complete From kam at kamsalisbury.com Mon Feb 9 10:46:33 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (Kam Salisbury) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:46:33 -0500 Subject: FWN #162 status In-Reply-To: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <818ac3c70902090246y37e4674cm2a2c376cb3a25046@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hi all, > > I've edited the following but have not added them to the LatestIssue > page. I'll be back at about 15:00 UTC on Monday 2009-02-09 to finish up, > so Pascal or Huzaifa if you want to go ahead then please do, but > otherwise I've got this one. > > FWN/Beats/PlanetFedora Adam Batkin COMPLETE > > FWN/Beats/Ambassadors Larry Cafiero COMPLETE > FWN/Beats/Developments Oisin Feeley COMPLETE > > FWN/Beats/Artwork Nicu Buculei COMPLETE > > FWN/Beats/SecurityWeek Josh Bressers COMPLETE > FWN/Beats/SecurityAdvisories David Nalley COMPLETE > > Rahul and Chris: I'm not sure whether the current material in AskFedora > is good to go? It reads like it although I'll need to convert all the > references to our new style. > > Thanks again everyone for some very enjoyable reads this week. It's > good to welcome back Josh Bressers with the Security Week beat and I'm > looking forward to doing justice to digging further into Adam's > PlanetFedora links. Have a great week! > > Best, > -- > Oisin Feeley > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-news-list mailing list > Fedora-news-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-news-list > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/Marketing is complete from my end as well. -- Kam Salisbury http://kamsalisbury.com GPG key: FAF1751E -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 9 13:25:11 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:25:11 +0100 (CET) Subject: FWN #162 status In-Reply-To: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Announcements beat is coming soon! --Max On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hi all, > > I've edited the following but have not added them to the LatestIssue > page. I'll be back at about 15:00 UTC on Monday 2009-02-09 to finish up, > so Pascal or Huzaifa if you want to go ahead then please do, but > otherwise I've got this one. > > FWN/Beats/PlanetFedora Adam Batkin COMPLETE > > FWN/Beats/Ambassadors Larry Cafiero COMPLETE > FWN/Beats/Developments Oisin Feeley COMPLETE > > FWN/Beats/Artwork Nicu Buculei COMPLETE > > FWN/Beats/SecurityWeek Josh Bressers COMPLETE > FWN/Beats/SecurityAdvisories David Nalley COMPLETE > > Rahul and Chris: I'm not sure whether the current material in AskFedora > is good to go? It reads like it although I'll need to convert all the > references to our new style. > > Thanks again everyone for some very enjoyable reads this week. It's > good to welcome back Josh Bressers with the Security Week beat and I'm > looking forward to doing justice to digging further into Adam's > PlanetFedora links. Have a great week! > > Best, > From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Feb 9 13:43:34 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:43:34 -0500 Subject: FWN #162 status In-Reply-To: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <49903306.5040704@nd.edu> Thanks so much, Oisin! I'll let you take the helm for this one, as I am chock full of meetings today. Great job on another issue, everyone! - pascal Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hi all, > > I've edited the following but have not added them to the LatestIssue > page. I'll be back at about 15:00 UTC on Monday 2009-02-09 to finish up, > so Pascal or Huzaifa if you want to go ahead then please do, but > otherwise I've got this one. > > FWN/Beats/PlanetFedora Adam Batkin COMPLETE > > FWN/Beats/Ambassadors Larry Cafiero COMPLETE > FWN/Beats/Developments Oisin Feeley COMPLETE > > FWN/Beats/Artwork Nicu Buculei COMPLETE > > FWN/Beats/SecurityWeek Josh Bressers COMPLETE > FWN/Beats/SecurityAdvisories David Nalley COMPLETE > > Rahul and Chris: I'm not sure whether the current material in AskFedora > is good to go? It reads like it although I'll need to convert all the > references to our new style. > > Thanks again everyone for some very enjoyable reads this week. It's > good to welcome back Josh Bressers with the Security Week beat and I'm > looking forward to doing justice to digging further into Adam's > PlanetFedora links. Have a great week! > > Best, From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 9 14:01:13 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:01:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: FWN #162 status In-Reply-To: References: <1234148875.6939.1299258349@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > Announcements beat is coming soon! It is now complete. --Max From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 9 16:53:05 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:53:05 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #162 Message-ID: <1234198385.5186.1299373173@webmail.messagingengine.com> Fedora Weekly News Issue 162 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 162 for the week ending February 8th, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue162 This week we're happy to announce the return of several beats: Marketing reports on following Fedora activity via Twitter; Ambassadors tantalizes with some Fedora polo shirts and the news that "North American Ambassadors Take Reins of XO Program"; Infrastructure notes a possible "Public Calendaring System" for the community; SecurityWeek shares an xkcd comic in "Encryption Security". Announcements highlights the K12Linux Fedora 10 Live Server in "Technical Announcements", PlanetFedora rounds up a lot of must-read blogs, Developments clarifies that "Fedora 11 Will Support i586 Instruction Set", Translation links to the "L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal", Artwork suggests some "Context Free Art", SecurityAdvisories lists packages you really, really want, Virtualization defies easy summary but one exciting tidbit is "Merging KVM and Qemu Packages", and finally we have another AskFedora concerning the possibility of a "Standardized Package Format". If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join Contents Fedora Weekly News Issue 162 1.1 Announcements 1.1.1 Fedora 11 Alpha 1.1.2 Technical Announcements 1.1.3 Upcoming Events 1.2 Planet Fedora 1.2.1 General 1.2.2 FOSDEM 2009 1.3 Marketing 1.3.1 Draft Fedora 11 Schedule 1.3.2 Fedora Twitters 1.3.3 Fedora 11 Alpha Ships with Windows Cross Compiler 1.4 Ambassadors 1.4.1 North American Ambassadors Take Reins of XO Program 1.4.2 North America Polo Shirt Order 1.4.3 FAD SCaLE coming up 2009-02-20 1.4.4 Got Ambassador News? 1.5 Developments 1.5.1 Fedora 11 Alpha Released 1.5.2 Fedora 11 Will Support i586 Instruction Set 1.5.3 RFC: Power Management 1.5.4 Rawhide Report 2009-02-07 1.5.5 New module-init-tools Uses Binary modules.dep|alias|symbols 1.5.6 New Georgian Fonts Packaged Rapidly 1.5.7 Distro-agnostic /boot Metadata Standard ? 1.5.8 GCC-4.4 Mass Rebuild Successful 1.5.9 Help Rel-eng Accelerate Updates Processing 1.6 Translation 1.6.1 Fedora 10 Release Notes Updated 1.6.2 L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal 1.7 Infrastructure 1.7.1 CSI (Security Policy) Help 1.7.2 Public Calendaring System 1.8 Artwork 1.8.1 Echo Monthly News 1.8.2 Context Free Art 1.9 Security Week 1.9.1 Encryption Security 1.9.2 Running Things as root is a Bad Idea 1.10 Security Advisories 1.10.1 Fedora 10 Security Advisories 1.10.2 Fedora 9 Security Advisories 1.11 Virtualization 1.11.1 Enterprise Management Tools List 1.11.1.1 virt-manager and QEMU Disk Polling Logs 1.11.1.2 virt-viewer Persistance Through Guest Reboots 1.11.1.3 virt-install Wait Indefinitely for Windows Guests 1.11.2 Fedora Virtualization List 1.11.2.1 Fedora Virt Status Update 1.11.2.2 Merging KVM and QEMU Packages 1.11.3 Fedora Xen List 1.11.3.1 bzImage Dom0 Support in Rawhide Xen 1.11.3.2 Test Dom0 Xen Kernel RPM Available 1.11.4 Libvirt List 1.11.4.1 Fix for Fallout From Failed QEMU Guest Starts 1.11.4.2 sVirt Patches to Merge in libvirt 1.11.4.3 Manage iptables with libvirt 1.12 Ask Fedora 1.12.1 Standardized Package Format == Announcements == In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ Contributing Writer: Max Spevack === Fedora 11 Alpha === JesseKeating announced[1] the release of Fedora 11 Alpha. The release is available at http://get.fedoraproject.org and includes MinGW (for Windows cross-compiling), the ext4 filesystem, GNOME 2.26, KDE 4.2.0, and XFCE 4.6 Beta. Furthermore, James Laska informed[2]the community about a Fedora Test Day focused on ext4. === Technical Announcements === Martin Sourada published[3] the latest issue of Echo Monthly News. Warren Togami announced[4] "the release of K12Linux F10 Live Server. K12Linux is Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP.org) integrated with Fedora 10, in a convenient LiveUSB or DVD media installer." The release inclues auto-configuration of diskless thin clients, sound forwarding over the network via PulseAudio, and more. All package maintainers should read the updated[5] package update guidelines[6], as announced by Mark McLoughlin. === Upcoming Events === Fedora will have a presence at several events in the next few weeks. Feel free to join us, February 20 - 22: Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE)[7][8] Also, people are encouraged to register for Fedora or JBoss.org related speaking slots at LinuxTag 2009.[9] 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00004.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00003.html 3. ↑ https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue6 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00002.html 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00004.html 6. ↑ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Package_update_guidelines 7. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event 8. ↑ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x 9. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009_talks == Planet Fedora == In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin === General === Paul W. Frields announced[1] the Fedora 11 Alpha, as well as an explanation of why Alpha releases exist and how you can get a sneak-peek at what will be in the next release while helping Fedora improve. Chris Brown wrote[2] about some of the other features that may make an appearance in F11. Dwayne Bailey developed[3] a system to manage the localization of software and integrated[4] it with some existing libraries to produce Virtaal[5]. Gary Benson continued[6] his excellent series "Inside Zero and Shark", a must-read for anyone interested in virtual machines or Java internals. Dave Jones explained[7] the status of Dracut, "the shiny new initramfs creation tool." Chris Tyler wrote[8],[9] [10] about getting a multiseat system set up using a single computer and dual ATI R710 video cards. In the latest installment the ATI setup was compared[11] to a similar configuration using Dual NVIDIA 9800GTX and various driver combinations. Steven Moix benchmarked[12],[13] the performance of Solid State Disks using various I/O schedulers running on Fedora 10. Tim Waugh showed off[14] the eye candy of system-config-printer that can be expected in Fedora 11. Adrian Likins pondered[15] the availability of "a mailing list summary page. The page would scan the mailing lists, and post the content most likely to need attention." Fedora Weekly News? Michael DeHaan shared[16] an essay, "Lessons Learned From OSS Software Development". Tim Waugh described[17] "How I use git" which shows some useful tips and tricks. Venkatesh Hariharan wrote[18] a draft FOSS manifesto for Indian political parties, which could actually be valuable for any country in the world. 1. ↑ http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1467 2. ↑ http://www.chruz.com/2009/02/07/icantbelieveitsnotbtr/ 3. ↑ http://www.translate.org.za/blogs/dwayne/en/content/localisation-information-language-preventing-mistakes-and-increasing-richness-localisation 4. ↑ http://www.translate.org.za/blogs/dwayne/en/content/libtranslate-tm-plugins-and-virtaal 5. ↑ http://virtaal.org/ 6. ↑ http://gbenson.net/?p=124 7. ↑ http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/02/02/dracut-status/ 8. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/180-Multiseat-on-Dual-ATI-R710s-So-close!.html 9. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/181-Multiseat-radeonhd.html 10. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/182-Multiseat-on-Dual-ATI-R710s-Working.html 11. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/184-Multiseat-on-Dual-ATI-and-Dual-NVIDIA.html 12. ↑ http://www.alphatek.info/2009/02/02/ssd-performance-vs-linux-kernel-io-scheduler-in-fedora-10/ 13. ↑ http://www.alphatek.info/2009/02/02/io-scheduler-and-ssd-part-2/ 14. ↑ http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/02/03/screenshots-system-config-printer-11/ 15. ↑ http://adrianlikins.com/?p=481 16. ↑ http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=853 17. ↑ http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/02/04/how-i-use-git/ 18. ↑ http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/02/draft-foss-manifesto-for-indian.html === FOSDEM 2009 === So many people have written about attending FOSDEM that it would take an entire issue of FWN post all of the links. Instead an arbitrarily selection will be randomly chosen. Pierros Papadeas took[1] a nice set of photos including some general shots of Brussels. Joerg Simon got[2] some shots of the Fedora booth. 1. ↑ http://digitaurora.blogspot.com/2009/02/fosdem-2009-day-zero.html 2. ↑ http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/02/fosdem-impressions-day1.html == Marketing == In this section, we cover the Fedora Marketing Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing Contributing Writer: Kam Salisbury === Draft Fedora 11 Schedule === The draft Fedora 11 schedule was made[1] available on the wiki by Jonathon Roberts. Now is as good as a time as any to get involved with Fedora Marketing by reviewing the goals of Fedora Marketing[2] and then joining[3]. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jonrob/MarketingSchedule 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/ 3. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Join === Fedora Twitters === You can now follow most major Fedora announcements via Twitter. Just choose to follow fedora_linux[1] from your Twitter account. Alternately, you can choose to follow Fedora Linux major news announcements via RSS[2]. Twitter[3] provides a social network tied together via 140 character status messages. 1. ↑ http://twitter.com/fedora_linux 2. ↑ http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline/16598186.rss 3. ↑ http://twitter.com/about#about === Fedora 11 Alpha Ships with Windows Cross Compiler === Fedora 11 now includes the Windows cross compiler MinGW[1], a development environment for Fedora users who want to save time and duplication of effort by cross-compiling their programs to run on Windows without actually having to use Windows during development. 1. ↑ http://www.mingw.org/ == Ambassadors == In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero === North American Ambassadors Take Reins of XO Program === During the week following FUDcon, it was suggested that the Fedora Ambassadors in North America run the NA Developer XO program for an initial period of 6 months. The reasons for Ambassadors taking the reins on this project are: * Ambassadors can help the NA Developer XO program by seeking help, freeing up developers already involved to concentrate on their work. * The Ambassadors are already in place, going to every major event and tons of minor events recruiting contributors to Fedora. * Ambassadors have had some moderate success getting people involved with both Fedora and OLPC/Sugar. OLPC decided to take the Ambassadors up on the offer and shipped 100 XOs to the FAmNA. Guidelines have been set - subject to the guidance of the OLPC SIG -- and the wiki, which has just been started and is in the process of refining, can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_developers_XO_program Essentially the bar that has been set is: * Maintain a sugar-* package in Fedora and agree to maintain it for two releases. Alternately maintain a package that was in OLPC4 and has been merged. * Develop a Sugar activity. To keep this in focus I have adopted Greg Dekoenigsberg's 'holy list of 4th grade math lessons' as acceptable activities: http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Gdk/4th_Grade_Maths * QA (well not really): While FAmNA isn't actively looking for QA help, but if someone with extensive QA experience and lots of time presents itself we won't pass it up. === North America Polo Shirt Order === Pascal Calarco has initiated another round of ordering for Ambassador Polos for North American Ambassadors as announced on the Fedora Ambassador mailing list. There is also additional information here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_North_America_(FAMNA)#Fedora_Ambassador_Polo_Shirts_for_FAMNA === FAD SCaLE coming up 2009-02-20 === The Fedora Activity Day[1] at the Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE)[2] will be from 9am - 6pm on Friday, February 20th at the Westin Airport Los Angeles, in Los Angeles, California. There will be breaks and such, but the FAD will be treated much like a sprint. We're here to get something accomplished -- specifically font packaging and documentation -- so come on by and help us out for an hour or all day. We'd love to have you there! Also, if you can make SCaLE from the Southern California area, stop by the Fedora booth. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x 2. ↑ http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org/ === Got Ambassador News? === Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd be glad to put it in this weekly report. == Developments == In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley === Fedora 11 Alpha Released === Jesse Keating announced[1] the availability of Fedora 11 Alpha on 2009-02-05. His beautiful poetry was accompanied by a suggestion to read the Release Notes[2]. One change which drew[3] extensive commentary on @fedora-test was the default disabling of the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace key combination. This traditionally kills the X server and to regain the usual behavior it is necessary to create an Xorg.conf file (these no longer exist by default either) and add the line Option "DontZap" "false" to it. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00004.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00118.html === Fedora 11 Will Support i586 Instruction Set === Last week (FWN#161[1]) we reported on a proposal to cease building Fedora 11 for the i586 CPU instruction set. FESCo had delayed its decision in order to discuss the matter further. The issue was addressed[2] on 2009-02-05 with the outcome that a proposal by Dennis Gilmore to continue supporting i586 for the duration of Fedora 11 but to transition to i686 for Fedora 12 was supported. Prior to the meeting Warren Togami summed up[3] the advice of Jakub Jel?nek as: "Jakub recommends i586.rpm for Fedora 11, because it doesn't gain us much of anything to go with i686 minimum. The benefits of i586 to i686 are simply not important because cmov is usually not a worthwhile optimization on ia32." An interesting suggestion by Adam Jackson was[4][5] that if there is a committed user-base of i586 users they could probably support it in the Secondary Architecture (see FWN#92[6]) infrastructure. Ulrich Drepper and Dominik Mierzejewski debated[7] whether the use of cmov can in some circumstances cause performance degradation. It is unclear exactly what performance benefits could be obtained by passing various architecture-specific flag combinations to GCC but it does seem that the burden of building and maintenance will be eased significantly by these changes. As a related change[8] x86_64 kernels will be installed with a 32-bit userspace. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/LatestIssue#Dropping_Support_for_i586_Architecture_.3F 2. ↑ http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2009-02-05.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00200.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00282.html 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00407.html 6. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue92#Secondary_Arch_Proposal_Cont. 7. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00240.html 8. ↑ http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2009-02-05.html === RFC: Power Management === Phil Knirsch initiated[1] a discussion of attempts to decrease power consumption especially in userland. A wiki page[2] reflects some of the research Phil has pulled together. Richard Hughes pointed[3] out some interesting work on DeviceKit-power where he built on powertop. Olivier Galibert raised[4] a possible problem with Richard's use of D-Bus itself causing wakeups, but according to Colin Walters a patch existed[5] to fix this problem. Many of the items suggested in Phil's page for documentation were suggested by Bill Nottingham as desiderata for defaults. While Phil agreed[6] in general he itemized some of the problems. These include problems with network interfaces and hard-disk spindowns which may be approachable as a result of a tuned daemon on which Phil is working. An addendum of audio hardware power-saving was made by Eric Sandeen along with a list of bugs which led[7] Phil to wonder if a tracker bug to collate all the information would be useful. Matthew Garrett expressed[8] some worries that hard-disk power-saving would cause physical wear and the relatime patches to work around over-aggressive deletion of content in /tmp would continue to be stalled. The importance of separating out KDE and GNOME dependent features was noted[9] by Kevin Kofler. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00365.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagement 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00376.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00430.html 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00642.html 6. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00406.html 7. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00413.html 8. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00415.html 9. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00403.html === Rawhide Report 2009-02-07 === The last report[1] lists 14 new packages added, 57 modified and some broken dependencies. New packages include dissy, a graphical front-end to objdump and python-pygooglechart a Python wrapper for the Google Chart API. Richard Hughes suggested[2] that the update to PolicyKit-gnome-0.9.2-1.fc11 might be useful: "If you're having problems with PackageKit and buttons "not working" you need this update." Some of the x86_64 broken dependencies were due to to mono-2.4 being pushed to rawhide which led David Nielsen to suggest[3] that a heads up would have been useful. Alex Lancaster requested[4] that API/ABI breakage would be announced on @fedora-devel-announce instead of on the high-traffic @fedora-devel. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00661.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00669.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00674.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00746.html === New module-init-tools Uses Binary modules.dep|alias|symbols === An update to module-init-tools-3.6 was pushed to rawhide by Jon Masters in order to speed up[1] boot time significantly. The files modules.dep, modules.alias and modules.symbols will have binary versions which are used in preference to their old text versions. Jon asked[2] if the need to run depmod -a after upgrades to module-init-tools would upset anyone. There seemed to be general approbation of his changes and they should land soon for Fedora 9 also. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00477.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00353.html === New Georgian Fonts Packaged Rapidly === A call was put out[1] by Nicolas Mailhot for someone to package a completely new Georgian font pack created by Besarion Paata Gugushvili. Nicolas was especially keen to get this done quickly as he had contacted Besarion and been rewarded with completely new fonts not shipped by any other distro, licensed with the FSF font exception to the GPL all within nine hours! Tom Callaway responded[2] within mere hours. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00281.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00308.html === Distro-agnostic /boot Metadata Standard ? === A negative review in German IT magazine "c't" led[1] Christoph H?ger to ask if it was possible to preserve the ability to boot other GNU/Linux distros after installing Fedora. The most annoying point seemed to be that Windows installations are preserved. A moderately long thread resulted and covered several ideas to allow the GRUB bootloader to identify other distributions. One such was[2] .that there should be an agreement among distributions to use a shared metadata standard on boot partitions. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00273.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00345.html === GCC-4.4 Mass Rebuild Successful === Jakub Jel?nek reported[1] that a mass rebuild of rawhide (snapshotted on 2009-01-26) of 6228 packages had produced only a few hundred failures. He listed these by type of failure. Several of the packages listed failed to build for reasons other than GCC, for instance Java packages failed[2] due to maven being broken. Thorsten Leemhuis provided[3] a list of packages and owners sorted by owner which was generally appreciated. He pointed out: "Finding all your packages in such a long list gets really hard as soon as you maintain 10 or 15 packages." Problems reported due to a mismatch between the libstdc++ headers requirement of -march=i486 and Koji's default use of -march=i386 led[4] Jakub to whip up some fixes. He requested that CFLAGS were not altered in SPEC files. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00180.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00220.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00229.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00257.html === Help Rel-eng Accelerate Updates Processing === One bottleneck in the processing of updates to packages is that they need to be signed. Work is ongoing to automate this (see FWN#147[1]) with a signing-server codenamed "sigul". Christoph Wickert wondered[2] why it had taken over five days for an update to one of his packages to get to testing. When Josh Boyer responded that it was because one human (Jesse Keating) had to sign the packages and he had been also busy getting Fedora 11 Alpha released, Daniel P. Berrange suggested[3] adding more humans to help. Jesse Keating suggested[4] that anyone who wished to help could take some of the load off the release-engineering team so that they had more time for package signing. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue147#Unsigned_Rawhide_Packages_an_Attack_Vector_.3F 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00508.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00515.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00576.html == Translation == This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee === Fedora 10 Release Notes Updated === JohnMcDonough announced some updates for the Fedora 10 Release Notes[1]. The deadline for the submission of the translated updates has been declared as 17th February 2009[2]. The translations have to be submitted in the f-10 branch. 1. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00001.html 2. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00007.html === L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal === Further to the discussion[1] initiated by AsgeirFrimannsson about the L10n Infrastructure Roadmap, NorikoMizumoto has commented[2] that considering the upcoming deadline for F-11 and the past troubles faced during F-10, the current infrastructure would need a maintainer to ensure its smooth running at present. 1. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00000.html 2. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00006.html == Infrastructure == This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-infrastructure-list http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure Contributing Writer: Huzaifa Sidhpurwala === CSI (Security Policy) Help === Frank Chiulli said[1] on the @fedora-infrastructure-list that he had implemented the CSI Security policy and he was seeing some strange messages in the logs and asked if someone could help him with that. Mike McGrath replied[2] to that saying that he suspected that before he was blocking these messages but did not notice. Seth Vidal said[3] that those are Windows/Samba/CIFS messages and if you have samba and/or windows running on the same network you will notice those. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00000.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00001.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00002.html === Public Calendaring System === Adam Williamson introduced[1] himself on the list saying that he was new in the Fedora QA department at Red Hat, his job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. He further said that something that would be nice to have for QA community is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be published. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00060.html == Artwork == In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei === Echo Monthly News === Martin Sourada posted[1] on @fedora-art the latest issue of Echo Monthly News[2] with information about the Echo Perspective theme and the new Echo Artist Scripts and Supporting Icon Artist Library. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00009.html 2. ↑ http://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue6 === Context Free Art === M?ir??n Duffy introduced[1] a "Programmatic Art Generator"[2], something she consider a "nifty FOSS tool [...], and it's even already in Fedora", with regrets[3] for not knowing about it when she created the "4 Foundation" posters[4]. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00010.html 2. ↑ http://www.contextfreeart.org/gallery/index.php 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00012.html 4. ↑ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mairin/3181889947/ == Security Week == In this section, we highlight the security stories from the week in Fedora. Contributing Writer: Josh Bressers === Encryption Security === With all the recent talk of encrypting hard drives, the cold boot method, and using proper passwords, this[1] xkcd comic reminds us of the weakest link in all cryptography, the person with the password. 1. ↑ http://xkcd.com/538 === Running Things as root is a Bad Idea === While I always knew this, this article still sort of blows my mind: Windows Security Improved By Denial Of Administrative Rights[1] To quote the article: ... configuring users to operate without administrative rights mitigates the impact of 92% of "critical" Microsoft vulnerabilities ... 92%, that is mind boggling. It's been sound advice for a long time in the Linux world, not to do things as root. I suspect if we expected everyone to be doing everything as root, virtual any minor security flaw would suddenly become a very serious matter. 1. ↑ http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/app-security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=213001021&subSection=Enterprise+Applications == Security Advisories == In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley === Fedora 10 Security Advisories === * roundcubemail-0.2-7.stable.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00018.html * sudo-1.6.9p17-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00025.html * gpsdrive-2.09-7.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00043.html * libcdaudio-0.99.12p2-11.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00103.html * gnumeric-1.8.2-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00112.html * nss-3.12.2.0-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00114.html * boinc-client-6.4.5-2.20081217svn.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00137.html * java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-9.b14.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00194.html * xulrunner-1.9.0.6-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00220.html * firefox-3.0.6-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00221.html * epiphany-extensions-2.24.0-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00222.html * devhelp-0.22-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00223.html * epiphany-2.24.3-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00224.html * evolution-rss-0.1.2-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00225.html * blam-1.8.5-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00226.html * galeon-2.0.7-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00227.html * google-gadgets-0.10.5-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00228.html * gnome-web-photo-0.3-14.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00231.html * gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-26.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00229.html * gecko-sharp2-0.13-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00230.html * kazehakase-0.5.6-1.fc10.3 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00232.html * mozvoikko-0.9.5-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00233.html * Miro-1.2.8-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00234.html * pcmanx-gtk2-0.3.8-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00235.html * mugshot-1.2.2-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00236.html * ruby-gnome2-0.18.1-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00237.html * yelp-2.24.0-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00238.html === Fedora 9 Security Advisories === * boinc-client-6.4.5-2.20081217svn.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00034.html * roundcubemail-0.2-7.stable.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00082.html * nss-3.12.2.0-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00096.html * gpsdrive-2.09-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00187.html * libcdaudio-0.99.12p2-11.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00188.html * gnumeric-1.8.2-4.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00211.html * xulrunner-1.9.0.6-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00240.html * firefox-3.0.6-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00241.html * chmsee-1.0.1-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00242.html * epiphany-extensions-2.22.1-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00243.html * epiphany-2.22.2-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00244.html * cairo-dock-1.6.3.1-1.fc9.3 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00245.html * blam-1.8.5-5.fc9.1 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00246.html * gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-23.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00247.html * galeon-2.0.7-5.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00248.html * gnome-web-photo-0.3-17.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00249.html * devhelp-0.19.1-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00250.html * evolution-rss-0.1.0-6.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00251.html * google-gadgets-0.10.5-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00252.html * kazehakase-0.5.6-1.fc9.3 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00253.html * Miro-1.2.7-4.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00254.html * mozvoikko-0.9.5-6.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00255.html * gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-25.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00256.html * ruby-gnome2-0.17.0-5.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00257.html * mugshot-1.2.2-5.fc9 -https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00258.html * totem-2.23.2-10.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00259.html * yelp-2.22.1-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00260.html == Virtualization == In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, and @libvirt-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley === Enterprise Management Tools List === This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list ==== virt-manager and QEMU Disk Polling Logs ==== Radek Hladik noticed[1] "when image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-manager is running and polling VMs stats image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt log in /var/log/libivrt/qemu/vmname is filling with messages" on the number of disk operations. After a day the log had grown to 100MB. Daniel P. Berrange accepted[2] on behalf of libvirt and Cole Robinson described[3] how to turn of disk polling in virt-manager. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00019.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00021.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00020.html ==== virt-viewer Persistance Through Guest Reboots ==== Daniel P. Berrange said[1] that by Fedora 11 image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-viewer will persist and wait for a guest to resume rather than exit when a guest reboots. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00004.html ==== virt-install Wait Indefinitely for Windows Guests ==== Since Windows reboots during installation, John Levon patched[1] virt-install to wait 120 minutes while installing a Windows guest. After some discussion it was decided it should wait indefinitely instead. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00005.html === Fedora Virtualization List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ==== Fedora Virt Status Update ==== Mark McLoughlin composed[1] another informative weekly update on the status of virtualization development in Fedora. Some highlights included: * A pvmmu problem casues some guest installs on an F11 Alpha host to oops during heavy network activity (RHBZ #480822) * Work has begun on Fedora 11 virtualization release notes. * The 0.6.0 release of image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt was not completely without problems. * All Fedora 11 virtualization features can be found all together. * The KVM/QEMU merge project has settled on a naming scheme. * KVM PCI device assignment continues to have issues. The "core of the problem is that devices must be reset before being assigned if they have been previously used in the host." * The addition of bzImage loading support to the Xen hypervisor is enabling users to build test Dom0 kernels. * A detailed of accounting reveals the bug count going from 191 to 192. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00061.html ==== Merging KVM and QEMU Packages ==== A feature[1] in the works for Fedora 11 is a merge of the image:Echo-package-16px.pngkvm package with the image:Echo-package-16px.pngqemu package. Glauber Costa recently took the first step in this process by creating a test build[2] and starting a very long thread[3] on naming of all the subpackages which will soon make up QEMU. 1. ↑ Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge 2. ↑ http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1105051 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00000.html === Fedora Xen List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list. ==== bzImage Dom0 Support in Rawhide Xen ==== Pasi K?rkk?inen announced[1] the latest image:Echo-package-16px.pngxen builds in Rawhide support bzImage compressed dom0 kernels. Xen previously only supported zImage compressed kernels. This development was one of the pre-requisite work items for the Xen pvops Dom0 feature. This good news was tempered by the fact that there is still no dom0 capable image:Echo-package-16px.pngkernel in Rawhide. However, such a kernel can be built[2] for testing. Gerd Hoffmann reports[3] success doing just that. Such kernels are not yet stable enough for use[4]. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-February/msg00001.html 2. ↑ http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00027.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00055.html ==== Test Dom0 Xen Kernel RPM Available ==== M A Young built[1] a dom0 capable kernel RPM. It's suitable only for testing; "use it very much at your own risk". 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-February/msg00014.html === Libvirt List === This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ==== Fix for Fallout From Failed QEMU Guest Starts ==== Daniel P. Berrange fixed[1] a series of events which manifested when a QEMU guest failed to start. Subsequent client connections would fail, CPU would rise to 100%, and virsh would hang. (RHBZ #484414) 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00104.html ==== sVirt Patches to Merge in libvirt ==== Daniel J Walsh looked[1] at James Morris sVirt[2] patches for image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt. "James patch, allows libvirt to read the SELinux context out of the xml database and execute image:Echo-package-16px.pngqemu with the context. The second componant [sic] is to pass the context of the image(s) and allow libvirt to not only set the image, but also update the default labels on disk, so a relabel will not change the context." Daniel J Walsh started working on this second component and wondered if they were acceptable for committing to libvirt yet. Daniel P. Berrange expressed[3] satisfaction with how the patches integrate with libvirt adding "If yourself & James are happy with what they're doing from a SELinux / security model point of view, then there's no reason they shouldn't be posted for final merge now." 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00144.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SVirt_Mandatory_Access_Control 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00145.html ==== Manage iptables with libvirt ==== Karl Wirth asked[1] "What if we could flexibly change the iptables rules for the different guests as they are deployed onto the node/host". This thought was not new.[2] David Lutterkort pointed[3] out some of the thorny problems with this proposal including the fact that "network devices may be directly assigned to guests - in that case, we won't even see any of the packets the guest sends or receives". Summarizing that "iptables management belongs into a higher-level management app, like ovirt[4], not libvirt." 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00147.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue138#Libvirt_and_Persistent_Iptables_Rules 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00152.html 4. ↑ http://ovirt.org/ == Ask Fedora == In this section, we answer general questions from Fedora community. Send your questions to askfedora AT fedoraproject.org and Fedora News Team will bring you answers from the Fedora Developers and Contributors to selected number of questions every week as part of our weekly news report. Please indicate if you do not wish your name and/or email address to be published. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AskFedora Writers: Chris Tyler, Rahul Sundaram === Standardized Package Format === Arthur Pemberton asked: "When are the big players in the Linux ecosystem going to converge on a single package system which is a superset of .deb and .rpm? This seems like something that needs to be done before this mostly unnecessary difference gets too ingrained to be changed." Two reasons are usually given for converging on a single packaging standard. The first is to create packages that can be installed on many distributions without change; this is particularly attractive to third-party software vendors who wish to create a single repository of their software for use with a range of distributions rather than package and distribute their software within those distributions. In order to support truly portable packages, it is necessary to standardize not only the package format, but the available libraries, library versions, file locations, utility commands, and system services. This is proved by the fact that, for example, Fedora and SUSE RPMs may not usually cleanly install on the the other distribution, despite using a common package format. It is similar for Debian and Ubuntu. The Linux Standard Base (LSB)[1] project of The Linux Foundation[2] has been working on such a system-wide standard for many years, walking the fine line between standardizing too little (yielding an ineffective standard) and standardizing too much (leaving little room for differentiation between distributions). The work of LSB has been internationally recognized as ISO/IEC 23360. However LSB is a trailing edge standard and Fedora usually is much ahead. In terms of packaging, LSB mandates support for a restricted version of RPM[3], without triggers and with restrictions on the content and execution-order requirements of scriptlets[4]. These restrictions ensure that LSB-compliant RPMs can be successfully processed by conversion tools such as Debian's "alien" command. However, as its name implies, the LSB defines only a base for a distribution, and many of a distribution's packages need to take advantage of a broader feature set than provided for by the LSB. This need is expressed in the more advanced features provided by the full RPM and DEB package specifications. It should be noted that a number of package systems have been developed which attempt to address cross-distribution packaging issues, including Autopackage[5], ZeroInstall[6], and Klik[7] (ZeroInstall and Klik also enabling user-level package installation) -- but these have not gain widespread support. The second advantage to a standard package format is a reduction in the duplication of labour by each distribution, especially if packaging information (such as a basic RPM .spec file) is provided by the upstream software source. However, packaging standards, security configuration (such as SELinux policy), and naming conventions vary so significantly between distributions that extensive customization of the package is usually required, greatly reducing the value of distributing standard package information. The existence of multiple GNU/Linux distributions fuels a productive competitiveness which spurs innovation[8]. As long as multiple distributions thrive, multiple package formats are likely to remain in use. Freedesktop.org provides a cross distribution forum[9] which many distributions have been using to discuss and collaborate on common issues. The Fedora Project also prefers to work closely with upstream software[10] as a matter of principle to minimize differences. 1. ↑ http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB 2. ↑ http://www.linuxfoundation.org/ 3. ↑ http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/packagefmt.html 4. ↑ http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/pkgscripts.html 5. ↑ http://autopackage.org/ 6. ↑ http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/ 7. ↑ http://klik.atekon.de/ 8. ↑ http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090202#feature 9. ↑ http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions 10. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 9 17:01:45 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:01:45 +0100 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #162 Message-ID: <000d01c98ad8$171486c0$ba00000a@grecom.local> Fedora Weekly News Issue 162 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 162 for the week ending February 8th, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue162 This week we're happy to announce the return of several beats: Marketing reports on following Fedora activity via Twitter; Ambassadors tantalizes with some Fedora polo shirts and the news that "North American Ambassadors Take Reins of XO Program"; Infrastructure notes a possible "Public Calendaring System" for the community; SecurityWeek shares an xkcd comic in "Encryption Security". Announcements highlights the K12Linux Fedora 10 Live Server in "Technical Announcements", PlanetFedora rounds up a lot of must-read blogs, Developments clarifies that "Fedora 11 Will Support i586 Instruction Set", Translation links to the "L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal", Artwork suggests some "Context Free Art", SecurityAdvisories lists packages you really, really want, Virtualization defies easy summary but one exciting tidbit is "Merging KVM and Qemu Packages", and finally we have another AskFedora concerning the possibility of a "Standardized Package Format". If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join Contents Fedora Weekly News Issue 162 1.1 Announcements 1.1.1 Fedora 11 Alpha 1.1.2 Technical Announcements 1.1.3 Upcoming Events 1.2 Planet Fedora 1.2.1 General 1.2.2 FOSDEM 2009 1.3 Marketing 1.3.1 Draft Fedora 11 Schedule 1.3.2 Fedora Twitters 1.3.3 Fedora 11 Alpha Ships with Windows Cross Compiler 1.4 Ambassadors 1.4.1 North American Ambassadors Take Reins of XO Program 1.4.2 North America Polo Shirt Order 1.4.3 FAD SCaLE coming up 2009-02-20 1.4.4 Got Ambassador News? 1.5 Developments 1.5.1 Fedora 11 Alpha Released 1.5.2 Fedora 11 Will Support i586 Instruction Set 1.5.3 RFC: Power Management 1.5.4 Rawhide Report 2009-02-07 1.5.5 New module-init-tools Uses Binary modules.dep|alias|symbols 1.5.6 New Georgian Fonts Packaged Rapidly 1.5.7 Distro-agnostic /boot Metadata Standard ? 1.5.8 GCC-4.4 Mass Rebuild Successful 1.5.9 Help Rel-eng Accelerate Updates Processing 1.6 Translation 1.6.1 Fedora 10 Release Notes Updated 1.6.2 L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal 1.7 Infrastructure 1.7.1 CSI (Security Policy) Help 1.7.2 Public Calendaring System 1.8 Artwork 1.8.1 Echo Monthly News 1.8.2 Context Free Art 1.9 Security Week 1.9.1 Encryption Security 1.9.2 Running Things as root is a Bad Idea 1.10 Security Advisories 1.10.1 Fedora 10 Security Advisories 1.10.2 Fedora 9 Security Advisories 1.11 Virtualization 1.11.1 Enterprise Management Tools List 1.11.1.1 virt-manager and QEMU Disk Polling Logs 1.11.1.2 virt-viewer Persistance Through Guest Reboots 1.11.1.3 virt-install Wait Indefinitely for Windows Guests 1.11.2 Fedora Virtualization List 1.11.2.1 Fedora Virt Status Update 1.11.2.2 Merging KVM and QEMU Packages 1.11.3 Fedora Xen List 1.11.3.1 bzImage Dom0 Support in Rawhide Xen 1.11.3.2 Test Dom0 Xen Kernel RPM Available 1.11.4 Libvirt List 1.11.4.1 Fix for Fallout From Failed QEMU Guest Starts 1.11.4.2 sVirt Patches to Merge in libvirt 1.11.4.3 Manage iptables with libvirt 1.12 Ask Fedora 1.12.1 Standardized Package Format == Announcements == In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ Contributing Writer: Max Spevack === Fedora 11 Alpha === JesseKeating announced[1] the release of Fedora 11 Alpha. The release is available at http://get.fedoraproject.org and includes MinGW (for Windows cross-compiling), the ext4 filesystem, GNOME 2.26, KDE 4.2.0, and XFCE 4.6 Beta. Furthermore, James Laska informed[2]the community about a Fedora Test Day focused on ext4. === Technical Announcements === Martin Sourada published[3] the latest issue of Echo Monthly News. Warren Togami announced[4] "the release of K12Linux F10 Live Server. K12Linux is Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP.org) integrated with Fedora 10, in a convenient LiveUSB or DVD media installer." The release inclues auto-configuration of diskless thin clients, sound forwarding over the network via PulseAudio, and more. All package maintainers should read the updated[5] package update guidelines[6], as announced by Mark McLoughlin. === Upcoming Events === Fedora will have a presence at several events in the next few weeks. Feel free to join us, February 20 - 22: Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE)[7][8] Also, people are encouraged to register for Fedora or JBoss.org related speaking slots at LinuxTag 2009.[9] 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00004.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00003.html 3. ↑ https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue6 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00002.html 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00004.html 6. ↑ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Package_update_guidelines 7. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event 8. ↑ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x 9. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009_talks == Planet Fedora == In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin === General === Paul W. Frields announced[1] the Fedora 11 Alpha, as well as an explanation of why Alpha releases exist and how you can get a sneak-peek at what will be in the next release while helping Fedora improve. Chris Brown wrote[2] about some of the other features that may make an appearance in F11. Dwayne Bailey developed[3] a system to manage the localization of software and integrated[4] it with some existing libraries to produce Virtaal[5]. Gary Benson continued[6] his excellent series "Inside Zero and Shark", a must-read for anyone interested in virtual machines or Java internals. Dave Jones explained[7] the status of Dracut, "the shiny new initramfs creation tool." Chris Tyler wrote[8],[9] [10] about getting a multiseat system set up using a single computer and dual ATI R710 video cards. In the latest installment the ATI setup was compared[11] to a similar configuration using Dual NVIDIA 9800GTX and various driver combinations. Steven Moix benchmarked[12],[13] the performance of Solid State Disks using various I/O schedulers running on Fedora 10. Tim Waugh showed off[14] the eye candy of system-config-printer that can be expected in Fedora 11. Adrian Likins pondered[15] the availability of "a mailing list summary page. The page would scan the mailing lists, and post the content most likely to need attention." Fedora Weekly News? Michael DeHaan shared[16] an essay, "Lessons Learned From OSS Software Development". Tim Waugh described[17] "How I use git" which shows some useful tips and tricks. Venkatesh Hariharan wrote[18] a draft FOSS manifesto for Indian political parties, which could actually be valuable for any country in the world. 1. ↑ http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1467 2. ↑ http://www.chruz.com/2009/02/07/icantbelieveitsnotbtr/ 3. ↑ http://www.translate.org.za/blogs/dwayne/en/content/localisation-information-language-preventing-mistakes-and-increasing-richness-localisation 4. ↑ http://www.translate.org.za/blogs/dwayne/en/content/libtranslate-tm-plugins-and-virtaal 5. ↑ http://virtaal.org/ 6. ↑ http://gbenson.net/?p=124 7. ↑ http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/02/02/dracut-status/ 8. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/180-Multiseat-on-Dual-ATI-R710s-So-close!.html 9. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/181-Multiseat-radeonhd.html 10. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/182-Multiseat-on-Dual-ATI-R710s-Working.html 11. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/184-Multiseat-on-Dual-ATI-and-Dual-NVIDIA.html 12. ↑ http://www.alphatek.info/2009/02/02/ssd-performance-vs-linux-kernel-io-scheduler-in-fedora-10/ 13. ↑ http://www.alphatek.info/2009/02/02/io-scheduler-and-ssd-part-2/ 14. ↑ http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/02/03/screenshots-system-config-printer-11/ 15. ↑ http://adrianlikins.com/?p=481 16. ↑ http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=853 17. ↑ http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/02/04/how-i-use-git/ 18. ↑ http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/02/draft-foss-manifesto-for-indian.html === FOSDEM 2009 === So many people have written about attending FOSDEM that it would take an entire issue of FWN post all of the links. Instead an arbitrarily selection will be randomly chosen. Pierros Papadeas took[1] a nice set of photos including some general shots of Brussels. Joerg Simon got[2] some shots of the Fedora booth. 1. ↑ http://digitaurora.blogspot.com/2009/02/fosdem-2009-day-zero.html 2. ↑ http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/02/fosdem-impressions-day1.html == Marketing == In this section, we cover the Fedora Marketing Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing Contributing Writer: Kam Salisbury === Draft Fedora 11 Schedule === The draft Fedora 11 schedule was made[1] available on the wiki by Jonathon Roberts. Now is as good as a time as any to get involved with Fedora Marketing by reviewing the goals of Fedora Marketing[2] and then joining[3]. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jonrob/MarketingSchedule 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/ 3. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Join === Fedora Twitters === You can now follow most major Fedora announcements via Twitter. Just choose to follow fedora_linux[1] from your Twitter account. Alternately, you can choose to follow Fedora Linux major news announcements via RSS[2]. Twitter[3] provides a social network tied together via 140 character status messages. 1. ↑ http://twitter.com/fedora_linux 2. ↑ http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline/16598186.rss 3. ↑ http://twitter.com/about#about === Fedora 11 Alpha Ships with Windows Cross Compiler === Fedora 11 now includes the Windows cross compiler MinGW[1], a development environment for Fedora users who want to save time and duplication of effort by cross-compiling their programs to run on Windows without actually having to use Windows during development. 1. ↑ http://www.mingw.org/ == Ambassadors == In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero === North American Ambassadors Take Reins of XO Program === During the week following FUDcon, it was suggested that the Fedora Ambassadors in North America run the NA Developer XO program for an initial period of 6 months. The reasons for Ambassadors taking the reins on this project are: * Ambassadors can help the NA Developer XO program by seeking help, freeing up developers already involved to concentrate on their work. * The Ambassadors are already in place, going to every major event and tons of minor events recruiting contributors to Fedora. * Ambassadors have had some moderate success getting people involved with both Fedora and OLPC/Sugar. OLPC decided to take the Ambassadors up on the offer and shipped 100 XOs to the FAmNA. Guidelines have been set - subject to the guidance of the OLPC SIG -- and the wiki, which has just been started and is in the process of refining, can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_developers_XO_program Essentially the bar that has been set is: * Maintain a sugar-* package in Fedora and agree to maintain it for two releases. Alternately maintain a package that was in OLPC4 and has been merged. * Develop a Sugar activity. To keep this in focus I have adopted Greg Dekoenigsberg's 'holy list of 4th grade math lessons' as acceptable activities: http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Gdk/4th_Grade_Maths * QA (well not really): While FAmNA isn't actively looking for QA help, but if someone with extensive QA experience and lots of time presents itself we won't pass it up. === North America Polo Shirt Order === Pascal Calarco has initiated another round of ordering for Ambassador Polos for North American Ambassadors as announced on the Fedora Ambassador mailing list. There is also additional information here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_North_America_(FAMNA)#Fedora_Ambassador_Polo_Shirts_for_FAMNA === FAD SCaLE coming up 2009-02-20 === The Fedora Activity Day[1] at the Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE)[2] will be from 9am - 6pm on Friday, February 20th at the Westin Airport Los Angeles, in Los Angeles, California. There will be breaks and such, but the FAD will be treated much like a sprint. We're here to get something accomplished -- specifically font packaging and documentation -- so come on by and help us out for an hour or all day. We'd love to have you there! Also, if you can make SCaLE from the Southern California area, stop by the Fedora booth. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x 2. ↑ http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org/ === Got Ambassador News? === Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd be glad to put it in this weekly report. == Developments == In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley === Fedora 11 Alpha Released === Jesse Keating announced[1] the availability of Fedora 11 Alpha on 2009-02-05. His beautiful poetry was accompanied by a suggestion to read the Release Notes[2]. One change which drew[3] extensive commentary on @fedora-test was the default disabling of the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace key combination. This traditionally kills the X server and to regain the usual behavior it is necessary to create an Xorg.conf file (these no longer exist by default either) and add the line Option "DontZap" "false" to it. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00004.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00118.html === Fedora 11 Will Support i586 Instruction Set === Last week (FWN#161[1]) we reported on a proposal to cease building Fedora 11 for the i586 CPU instruction set. FESCo had delayed its decision in order to discuss the matter further. The issue was addressed[2] on 2009-02-05 with the outcome that a proposal by Dennis Gilmore to continue supporting i586 for the duration of Fedora 11 but to transition to i686 for Fedora 12 was supported. Prior to the meeting Warren Togami summed up[3] the advice of Jakub Jel?nek as: "Jakub recommends i586.rpm for Fedora 11, because it doesn't gain us much of anything to go with i686 minimum. The benefits of i586 to i686 are simply not important because cmov is usually not a worthwhile optimization on ia32." An interesting suggestion by Adam Jackson was[4][5] that if there is a committed user-base of i586 users they could probably support it in the Secondary Architecture (see FWN#92[6]) infrastructure. Ulrich Drepper and Dominik Mierzejewski debated[7] whether the use of cmov can in some circumstances cause performance degradation. It is unclear exactly what performance benefits could be obtained by passing various architecture-specific flag combinations to GCC but it does seem that the burden of building and maintenance will be eased significantly by these changes. As a related change[8] x86_64 kernels will be installed with a 32-bit userspace. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/LatestIssue#Dropping_Support_for_i586_Architecture_.3F 2. ↑ http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2009-02-05.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00200.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00282.html 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00407.html 6. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue92#Secondary_Arch_Proposal_Cont. 7. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00240.html 8. ↑ http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2009-02-05.html === RFC: Power Management === Phil Knirsch initiated[1] a discussion of attempts to decrease power consumption especially in userland. A wiki page[2] reflects some of the research Phil has pulled together. Richard Hughes pointed[3] out some interesting work on DeviceKit-power where he built on powertop. Olivier Galibert raised[4] a possible problem with Richard's use of D-Bus itself causing wakeups, but according to Colin Walters a patch existed[5] to fix this problem. Many of the items suggested in Phil's page for documentation were suggested by Bill Nottingham as desiderata for defaults. While Phil agreed[6] in general he itemized some of the problems. These include problems with network interfaces and hard-disk spindowns which may be approachable as a result of a tuned daemon on which Phil is working. An addendum of audio hardware power-saving was made by Eric Sandeen along with a list of bugs which led[7] Phil to wonder if a tracker bug to collate all the information would be useful. Matthew Garrett expressed[8] some worries that hard-disk power-saving would cause physical wear and the relatime patches to work around over-aggressive deletion of content in /tmp would continue to be stalled. The importance of separating out KDE and GNOME dependent features was noted[9] by Kevin Kofler. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00365.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagement 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00376.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00430.html 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00642.html 6. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00406.html 7. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00413.html 8. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00415.html 9. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00403.html === Rawhide Report 2009-02-07 === The last report[1] lists 14 new packages added, 57 modified and some broken dependencies. New packages include dissy, a graphical front-end to objdump and python-pygooglechart a Python wrapper for the Google Chart API. Richard Hughes suggested[2] that the update to PolicyKit-gnome-0.9.2-1.fc11 might be useful: "If you're having problems with PackageKit and buttons "not working" you need this update." Some of the x86_64 broken dependencies were due to to mono-2.4 being pushed to rawhide which led David Nielsen to suggest[3] that a heads up would have been useful. Alex Lancaster requested[4] that API/ABI breakage would be announced on @fedora-devel-announce instead of on the high-traffic @fedora-devel. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00661.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00669.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00674.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00746.html === New module-init-tools Uses Binary modules.dep|alias|symbols === An update to module-init-tools-3.6 was pushed to rawhide by Jon Masters in order to speed up[1] boot time significantly. The files modules.dep, modules.alias and modules.symbols will have binary versions which are used in preference to their old text versions. Jon asked[2] if the need to run depmod -a after upgrades to module-init-tools would upset anyone. There seemed to be general approbation of his changes and they should land soon for Fedora 9 also. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00477.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00353.html === New Georgian Fonts Packaged Rapidly === A call was put out[1] by Nicolas Mailhot for someone to package a completely new Georgian font pack created by Besarion Paata Gugushvili. Nicolas was especially keen to get this done quickly as he had contacted Besarion and been rewarded with completely new fonts not shipped by any other distro, licensed with the FSF font exception to the GPL all within nine hours! Tom Callaway responded[2] within mere hours. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00281.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00308.html === Distro-agnostic /boot Metadata Standard ? === A negative review in German IT magazine "c't" led[1] Christoph H?ger to ask if it was possible to preserve the ability to boot other GNU/Linux distros after installing Fedora. The most annoying point seemed to be that Windows installations are preserved. A moderately long thread resulted and covered several ideas to allow the GRUB bootloader to identify other distributions. One such was[2] .that there should be an agreement among distributions to use a shared metadata standard on boot partitions. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00273.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00345.html === GCC-4.4 Mass Rebuild Successful === Jakub Jel?nek reported[1] that a mass rebuild of rawhide (snapshotted on 2009-01-26) of 6228 packages had produced only a few hundred failures. He listed these by type of failure. Several of the packages listed failed to build for reasons other than GCC, for instance Java packages failed[2] due to maven being broken. Thorsten Leemhuis provided[3] a list of packages and owners sorted by owner which was generally appreciated. He pointed out: "Finding all your packages in such a long list gets really hard as soon as you maintain 10 or 15 packages." Problems reported due to a mismatch between the libstdc++ headers requirement of -march=i486 and Koji's default use of -march=i386 led[4] Jakub to whip up some fixes. He requested that CFLAGS were not altered in SPEC files. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00180.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00220.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00229.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00257.html === Help Rel-eng Accelerate Updates Processing === One bottleneck in the processing of updates to packages is that they need to be signed. Work is ongoing to automate this (see FWN#147[1]) with a signing-server codenamed "sigul". Christoph Wickert wondered[2] why it had taken over five days for an update to one of his packages to get to testing. When Josh Boyer responded that it was because one human (Jesse Keating) had to sign the packages and he had been also busy getting Fedora 11 Alpha released, Daniel P. Berrange suggested[3] adding more humans to help. Jesse Keating suggested[4] that anyone who wished to help could take some of the load off the release-engineering team so that they had more time for package signing. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue147#Unsigned_Rawhide_Packages_an_Attack_Vector_.3F 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00508.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00515.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00576.html == Translation == This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee === Fedora 10 Release Notes Updated === JohnMcDonough announced some updates for the Fedora 10 Release Notes[1]. The deadline for the submission of the translated updates has been declared as 17th February 2009[2]. The translations have to be submitted in the f-10 branch. 1. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00001.html 2. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00007.html === L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal === Further to the discussion[1] initiated by AsgeirFrimannsson about the L10n Infrastructure Roadmap, NorikoMizumoto has commented[2] that considering the upcoming deadline for F-11 and the past troubles faced during F-10, the current infrastructure would need a maintainer to ensure its smooth running at present. 1. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00000.html 2. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00006.html == Infrastructure == This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-infrastructure-list http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure Contributing Writer: Huzaifa Sidhpurwala === CSI (Security Policy) Help === Frank Chiulli said[1] on the @fedora-infrastructure-list that he had implemented the CSI Security policy and he was seeing some strange messages in the logs and asked if someone could help him with that. Mike McGrath replied[2] to that saying that he suspected that before he was blocking these messages but did not notice. Seth Vidal said[3] that those are Windows/Samba/CIFS messages and if you have samba and/or windows running on the same network you will notice those. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00000.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00001.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00002.html === Public Calendaring System === Adam Williamson introduced[1] himself on the list saying that he was new in the Fedora QA department at Red Hat, his job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. He further said that something that would be nice to have for QA community is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be published. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00060.html == Artwork == In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei === Echo Monthly News === Martin Sourada posted[1] on @fedora-art the latest issue of Echo Monthly News[2] with information about the Echo Perspective theme and the new Echo Artist Scripts and Supporting Icon Artist Library. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00009.html 2. ↑ http://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue6 === Context Free Art === M?ir??n Duffy introduced[1] a "Programmatic Art Generator"[2], something she consider a "nifty FOSS tool [...], and it's even already in Fedora", with regrets[3] for not knowing about it when she created the "4 Foundation" posters[4]. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00010.html 2. ↑ http://www.contextfreeart.org/gallery/index.php 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00012.html 4. ↑ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mairin/3181889947/ == Security Week == In this section, we highlight the security stories from the week in Fedora. Contributing Writer: Josh Bressers === Encryption Security === With all the recent talk of encrypting hard drives, the cold boot method, and using proper passwords, this[1] xkcd comic reminds us of the weakest link in all cryptography, the person with the password. 1. ↑ http://xkcd.com/538 === Running Things as root is a Bad Idea === While I always knew this, this article still sort of blows my mind: Windows Security Improved By Denial Of Administrative Rights[1] To quote the article: ... configuring users to operate without administrative rights mitigates the impact of 92% of "critical" Microsoft vulnerabilities ... 92%, that is mind boggling. It's been sound advice for a long time in the Linux world, not to do things as root. I suspect if we expected everyone to be doing everything as root, virtual any minor security flaw would suddenly become a very serious matter. 1. ↑ http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/app-security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=213001021&subSection=Enterprise+Applications == Security Advisories == In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley === Fedora 10 Security Advisories === * roundcubemail-0.2-7.stable.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00018.html * sudo-1.6.9p17-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00025.html * gpsdrive-2.09-7.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00043.html * libcdaudio-0.99.12p2-11.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00103.html * gnumeric-1.8.2-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00112.html * nss-3.12.2.0-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00114.html * boinc-client-6.4.5-2.20081217svn.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00137.html * java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-9.b14.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00194.html * xulrunner-1.9.0.6-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00220.html * firefox-3.0.6-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00221.html * epiphany-extensions-2.24.0-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00222.html * devhelp-0.22-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00223.html * epiphany-2.24.3-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00224.html * evolution-rss-0.1.2-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00225.html * blam-1.8.5-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00226.html * galeon-2.0.7-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00227.html * google-gadgets-0.10.5-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00228.html * gnome-web-photo-0.3-14.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00231.html * gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-26.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00229.html * gecko-sharp2-0.13-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00230.html * kazehakase-0.5.6-1.fc10.3 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00232.html * mozvoikko-0.9.5-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00233.html * Miro-1.2.8-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00234.html * pcmanx-gtk2-0.3.8-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00235.html * mugshot-1.2.2-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00236.html * ruby-gnome2-0.18.1-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00237.html * yelp-2.24.0-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00238.html === Fedora 9 Security Advisories === * boinc-client-6.4.5-2.20081217svn.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00034.html * roundcubemail-0.2-7.stable.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00082.html * nss-3.12.2.0-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00096.html * gpsdrive-2.09-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00187.html * libcdaudio-0.99.12p2-11.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00188.html * gnumeric-1.8.2-4.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00211.html * xulrunner-1.9.0.6-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00240.html * firefox-3.0.6-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00241.html * chmsee-1.0.1-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00242.html * epiphany-extensions-2.22.1-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00243.html * epiphany-2.22.2-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00244.html * cairo-dock-1.6.3.1-1.fc9.3 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00245.html * blam-1.8.5-5.fc9.1 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00246.html * gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-23.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00247.html * galeon-2.0.7-5.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00248.html * gnome-web-photo-0.3-17.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00249.html * devhelp-0.19.1-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00250.html * evolution-rss-0.1.0-6.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00251.html * google-gadgets-0.10.5-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00252.html * kazehakase-0.5.6-1.fc9.3 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00253.html * Miro-1.2.7-4.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00254.html * mozvoikko-0.9.5-6.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00255.html * gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-25.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00256.html * ruby-gnome2-0.17.0-5.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00257.html * mugshot-1.2.2-5.fc9 -https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00258.html * totem-2.23.2-10.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00259.html * yelp-2.22.1-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00260.html == Virtualization == In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, and @libvirt-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley === Enterprise Management Tools List === This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list ==== virt-manager and QEMU Disk Polling Logs ==== Radek Hladik noticed[1] "when image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-manager is running and polling VMs stats image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt log in /var/log/libivrt/qemu/vmname is filling with messages" on the number of disk operations. After a day the log had grown to 100MB. Daniel P. Berrange accepted[2] on behalf of libvirt and Cole Robinson described[3] how to turn of disk polling in virt-manager. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00019.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00021.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00020.html ==== virt-viewer Persistance Through Guest Reboots ==== Daniel P. Berrange said[1] that by Fedora 11 image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-viewer will persist and wait for a guest to resume rather than exit when a guest reboots. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00004.html ==== virt-install Wait Indefinitely for Windows Guests ==== Since Windows reboots during installation, John Levon patched[1] virt-install to wait 120 minutes while installing a Windows guest. After some discussion it was decided it should wait indefinitely instead. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00005.html === Fedora Virtualization List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ==== Fedora Virt Status Update ==== Mark McLoughlin composed[1] another informative weekly update on the status of virtualization development in Fedora. Some highlights included: * A pvmmu problem casues some guest installs on an F11 Alpha host to oops during heavy network activity (RHBZ #480822) * Work has begun on Fedora 11 virtualization release notes. * The 0.6.0 release of image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt was not completely without problems. * All Fedora 11 virtualization features can be found all together. * The KVM/QEMU merge project has settled on a naming scheme. * KVM PCI device assignment continues to have issues. The "core of the problem is that devices must be reset before being assigned if they have been previously used in the host." * The addition of bzImage loading support to the Xen hypervisor is enabling users to build test Dom0 kernels. * A detailed of accounting reveals the bug count going from 191 to 192. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00061.html ==== Merging KVM and QEMU Packages ==== A feature[1] in the works for Fedora 11 is a merge of the image:Echo-package-16px.pngkvm package with the image:Echo-package-16px.pngqemu package. Glauber Costa recently took the first step in this process by creating a test build[2] and starting a very long thread[3] on naming of all the subpackages which will soon make up QEMU. 1. ↑ Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge 2. ↑ http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1105051 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00000.html === Fedora Xen List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list. ==== bzImage Dom0 Support in Rawhide Xen ==== Pasi K?rkk?inen announced[1] the latest image:Echo-package-16px.pngxen builds in Rawhide support bzImage compressed dom0 kernels. Xen previously only supported zImage compressed kernels. This development was one of the pre-requisite work items for the Xen pvops Dom0 feature. This good news was tempered by the fact that there is still no dom0 capable image:Echo-package-16px.pngkernel in Rawhide. However, such a kernel can be built[2] for testing. Gerd Hoffmann reports[3] success doing just that. Such kernels are not yet stable enough for use[4]. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-February/msg00001.html 2. ↑ http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00027.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00055.html ==== Test Dom0 Xen Kernel RPM Available ==== M A Young built[1] a dom0 capable kernel RPM. It's suitable only for testing; "use it very much at your own risk". 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-February/msg00014.html === Libvirt List === This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ==== Fix for Fallout From Failed QEMU Guest Starts ==== Daniel P. Berrange fixed[1] a series of events which manifested when a QEMU guest failed to start. Subsequent client connections would fail, CPU would rise to 100%, and virsh would hang. (RHBZ #484414) 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00104.html ==== sVirt Patches to Merge in libvirt ==== Daniel J Walsh looked[1] at James Morris sVirt[2] patches for image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt. "James patch, allows libvirt to read the SELinux context out of the xml database and execute image:Echo-package-16px.pngqemu with the context. The second componant [sic] is to pass the context of the image(s) and allow libvirt to not only set the image, but also update the default labels on disk, so a relabel will not change the context." Daniel J Walsh started working on this second component and wondered if they were acceptable for committing to libvirt yet. Daniel P. Berrange expressed[3] satisfaction with how the patches integrate with libvirt adding "If yourself & James are happy with what they're doing from a SELinux / security model point of view, then there's no reason they shouldn't be posted for final merge now." 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00144.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SVirt_Mandatory_Access_Control 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00145.html ==== Manage iptables with libvirt ==== Karl Wirth asked[1] "What if we could flexibly change the iptables rules for the different guests as they are deployed onto the node/host". This thought was not new.[2] David Lutterkort pointed[3] out some of the thorny problems with this proposal including the fact that "network devices may be directly assigned to guests - in that case, we won't even see any of the packets the guest sends or receives". Summarizing that "iptables management belongs into a higher-level management app, like ovirt[4], not libvirt." 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00147.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue138#Libvirt_and_Persistent_Iptables_Rules 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00152.html 4. ↑ http://ovirt.org/ == Ask Fedora == In this section, we answer general questions from Fedora community. Send your questions to askfedora AT fedoraproject.org and Fedora News Team will bring you answers from the Fedora Developers and Contributors to selected number of questions every week as part of our weekly news report. Please indicate if you do not wish your name and/or email address to be published. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AskFedora Writers: Chris Tyler, Rahul Sundaram === Standardized Package Format === Arthur Pemberton asked: "When are the big players in the Linux ecosystem going to converge on a single package system which is a superset of .deb and .rpm? This seems like something that needs to be done before this mostly unnecessary difference gets too ingrained to be changed." Two reasons are usually given for converging on a single packaging standard. The first is to create packages that can be installed on many distributions without change; this is particularly attractive to third-party software vendors who wish to create a single repository of their software for use with a range of distributions rather than package and distribute their software within those distributions. In order to support truly portable packages, it is necessary to standardize not only the package format, but the available libraries, library versions, file locations, utility commands, and system services. This is proved by the fact that, for example, Fedora and SUSE RPMs may not usually cleanly install on the the other distribution, despite using a common package format. It is similar for Debian and Ubuntu. The Linux Standard Base (LSB)[1] project of The Linux Foundation[2] has been working on such a system-wide standard for many years, walking the fine line between standardizing too little (yielding an ineffective standard) and standardizing too much (leaving little room for differentiation between distributions). The work of LSB has been internationally recognized as ISO/IEC 23360. However LSB is a trailing edge standard and Fedora usually is much ahead. In terms of packaging, LSB mandates support for a restricted version of RPM[3], without triggers and with restrictions on the content and execution-order requirements of scriptlets[4]. These restrictions ensure that LSB-compliant RPMs can be successfully processed by conversion tools such as Debian's "alien" command. However, as its name implies, the LSB defines only a base for a distribution, and many of a distribution's packages need to take advantage of a broader feature set than provided for by the LSB. This need is expressed in the more advanced features provided by the full RPM and DEB package specifications. It should be noted that a number of package systems have been developed which attempt to address cross-distribution packaging issues, including Autopackage[5], ZeroInstall[6], and Klik[7] (ZeroInstall and Klik also enabling user-level package installation) -- but these have not gain widespread support. The second advantage to a standard package format is a reduction in the duplication of labour by each distribution, especially if packaging information (such as a basic RPM .spec file) is provided by the upstream software source. However, packaging standards, security configuration (such as SELinux policy), and naming conventions vary so significantly between distributions that extensive customization of the package is usually required, greatly reducing the value of distributing standard package information. The existence of multiple GNU/Linux distributions fuels a productive competitiveness which spurs innovation[8]. As long as multiple distributions thrive, multiple package formats are likely to remain in use. Freedesktop.org provides a cross distribution forum[9] which many distributions have been using to discuss and collaborate on common issues. The Fedora Project also prefers to work closely with upstream software[10] as a matter of principle to minimize differences. 1. ↑ http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB 2. ↑ http://www.linuxfoundation.org/ 3. ↑ http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/packagefmt.html 4. ↑ http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/pkgscripts.html 5. ↑ http://autopackage.org/ 6. ↑ http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/ 7. ↑ http://klik.atekon.de/ 8. ↑ http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090202#feature 9. ↑ http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions 10. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 9 17:01:46 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:01:46 +0100 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #162 Message-ID: <000e01c98ad8$171941b0$ba00000a@grecom.local> Fedora Weekly News Issue 162 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 162 for the week ending February 8th, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue162 This week we're happy to announce the return of several beats: Marketing reports on following Fedora activity via Twitter; Ambassadors tantalizes with some Fedora polo shirts and the news that "North American Ambassadors Take Reins of XO Program"; Infrastructure notes a possible "Public Calendaring System" for the community; SecurityWeek shares an xkcd comic in "Encryption Security". Announcements highlights the K12Linux Fedora 10 Live Server in "Technical Announcements", PlanetFedora rounds up a lot of must-read blogs, Developments clarifies that "Fedora 11 Will Support i586 Instruction Set", Translation links to the "L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal", Artwork suggests some "Context Free Art", SecurityAdvisories lists packages you really, really want, Virtualization defies easy summary but one exciting tidbit is "Merging KVM and Qemu Packages", and finally we have another AskFedora concerning the possibility of a "Standardized Package Format". If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join Contents Fedora Weekly News Issue 162 1.1 Announcements 1.1.1 Fedora 11 Alpha 1.1.2 Technical Announcements 1.1.3 Upcoming Events 1.2 Planet Fedora 1.2.1 General 1.2.2 FOSDEM 2009 1.3 Marketing 1.3.1 Draft Fedora 11 Schedule 1.3.2 Fedora Twitters 1.3.3 Fedora 11 Alpha Ships with Windows Cross Compiler 1.4 Ambassadors 1.4.1 North American Ambassadors Take Reins of XO Program 1.4.2 North America Polo Shirt Order 1.4.3 FAD SCaLE coming up 2009-02-20 1.4.4 Got Ambassador News? 1.5 Developments 1.5.1 Fedora 11 Alpha Released 1.5.2 Fedora 11 Will Support i586 Instruction Set 1.5.3 RFC: Power Management 1.5.4 Rawhide Report 2009-02-07 1.5.5 New module-init-tools Uses Binary modules.dep|alias|symbols 1.5.6 New Georgian Fonts Packaged Rapidly 1.5.7 Distro-agnostic /boot Metadata Standard ? 1.5.8 GCC-4.4 Mass Rebuild Successful 1.5.9 Help Rel-eng Accelerate Updates Processing 1.6 Translation 1.6.1 Fedora 10 Release Notes Updated 1.6.2 L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal 1.7 Infrastructure 1.7.1 CSI (Security Policy) Help 1.7.2 Public Calendaring System 1.8 Artwork 1.8.1 Echo Monthly News 1.8.2 Context Free Art 1.9 Security Week 1.9.1 Encryption Security 1.9.2 Running Things as root is a Bad Idea 1.10 Security Advisories 1.10.1 Fedora 10 Security Advisories 1.10.2 Fedora 9 Security Advisories 1.11 Virtualization 1.11.1 Enterprise Management Tools List 1.11.1.1 virt-manager and QEMU Disk Polling Logs 1.11.1.2 virt-viewer Persistance Through Guest Reboots 1.11.1.3 virt-install Wait Indefinitely for Windows Guests 1.11.2 Fedora Virtualization List 1.11.2.1 Fedora Virt Status Update 1.11.2.2 Merging KVM and QEMU Packages 1.11.3 Fedora Xen List 1.11.3.1 bzImage Dom0 Support in Rawhide Xen 1.11.3.2 Test Dom0 Xen Kernel RPM Available 1.11.4 Libvirt List 1.11.4.1 Fix for Fallout From Failed QEMU Guest Starts 1.11.4.2 sVirt Patches to Merge in libvirt 1.11.4.3 Manage iptables with libvirt 1.12 Ask Fedora 1.12.1 Standardized Package Format == Announcements == In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ Contributing Writer: Max Spevack === Fedora 11 Alpha === JesseKeating announced[1] the release of Fedora 11 Alpha. The release is available at http://get.fedoraproject.org and includes MinGW (for Windows cross-compiling), the ext4 filesystem, GNOME 2.26, KDE 4.2.0, and XFCE 4.6 Beta. Furthermore, James Laska informed[2]the community about a Fedora Test Day focused on ext4. === Technical Announcements === Martin Sourada published[3] the latest issue of Echo Monthly News. Warren Togami announced[4] "the release of K12Linux F10 Live Server. K12Linux is Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP.org) integrated with Fedora 10, in a convenient LiveUSB or DVD media installer." The release inclues auto-configuration of diskless thin clients, sound forwarding over the network via PulseAudio, and more. All package maintainers should read the updated[5] package update guidelines[6], as announced by Mark McLoughlin. === Upcoming Events === Fedora will have a presence at several events in the next few weeks. Feel free to join us, February 20 - 22: Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE)[7][8] Also, people are encouraged to register for Fedora or JBoss.org related speaking slots at LinuxTag 2009.[9] 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00004.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00003.html 3. ↑ https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue6 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00002.html 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00004.html 6. ↑ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Package_update_guidelines 7. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event 8. ↑ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x 9. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009_talks == Planet Fedora == In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin === General === Paul W. Frields announced[1] the Fedora 11 Alpha, as well as an explanation of why Alpha releases exist and how you can get a sneak-peek at what will be in the next release while helping Fedora improve. Chris Brown wrote[2] about some of the other features that may make an appearance in F11. Dwayne Bailey developed[3] a system to manage the localization of software and integrated[4] it with some existing libraries to produce Virtaal[5]. Gary Benson continued[6] his excellent series "Inside Zero and Shark", a must-read for anyone interested in virtual machines or Java internals. Dave Jones explained[7] the status of Dracut, "the shiny new initramfs creation tool." Chris Tyler wrote[8],[9] [10] about getting a multiseat system set up using a single computer and dual ATI R710 video cards. In the latest installment the ATI setup was compared[11] to a similar configuration using Dual NVIDIA 9800GTX and various driver combinations. Steven Moix benchmarked[12],[13] the performance of Solid State Disks using various I/O schedulers running on Fedora 10. Tim Waugh showed off[14] the eye candy of system-config-printer that can be expected in Fedora 11. Adrian Likins pondered[15] the availability of "a mailing list summary page. The page would scan the mailing lists, and post the content most likely to need attention." Fedora Weekly News? Michael DeHaan shared[16] an essay, "Lessons Learned From OSS Software Development". Tim Waugh described[17] "How I use git" which shows some useful tips and tricks. Venkatesh Hariharan wrote[18] a draft FOSS manifesto for Indian political parties, which could actually be valuable for any country in the world. 1. ↑ http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1467 2. ↑ http://www.chruz.com/2009/02/07/icantbelieveitsnotbtr/ 3. ↑ http://www.translate.org.za/blogs/dwayne/en/content/localisation-information-language-preventing-mistakes-and-increasing-richness-localisation 4. ↑ http://www.translate.org.za/blogs/dwayne/en/content/libtranslate-tm-plugins-and-virtaal 5. ↑ http://virtaal.org/ 6. ↑ http://gbenson.net/?p=124 7. ↑ http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/02/02/dracut-status/ 8. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/180-Multiseat-on-Dual-ATI-R710s-So-close!.html 9. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/181-Multiseat-radeonhd.html 10. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/182-Multiseat-on-Dual-ATI-R710s-Working.html 11. ↑ http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/184-Multiseat-on-Dual-ATI-and-Dual-NVIDIA.html 12. ↑ http://www.alphatek.info/2009/02/02/ssd-performance-vs-linux-kernel-io-scheduler-in-fedora-10/ 13. ↑ http://www.alphatek.info/2009/02/02/io-scheduler-and-ssd-part-2/ 14. ↑ http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/02/03/screenshots-system-config-printer-11/ 15. ↑ http://adrianlikins.com/?p=481 16. ↑ http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=853 17. ↑ http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/02/04/how-i-use-git/ 18. ↑ http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/02/draft-foss-manifesto-for-indian.html === FOSDEM 2009 === So many people have written about attending FOSDEM that it would take an entire issue of FWN post all of the links. Instead an arbitrarily selection will be randomly chosen. Pierros Papadeas took[1] a nice set of photos including some general shots of Brussels. Joerg Simon got[2] some shots of the Fedora booth. 1. ↑ http://digitaurora.blogspot.com/2009/02/fosdem-2009-day-zero.html 2. ↑ http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/02/fosdem-impressions-day1.html == Marketing == In this section, we cover the Fedora Marketing Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing Contributing Writer: Kam Salisbury === Draft Fedora 11 Schedule === The draft Fedora 11 schedule was made[1] available on the wiki by Jonathon Roberts. Now is as good as a time as any to get involved with Fedora Marketing by reviewing the goals of Fedora Marketing[2] and then joining[3]. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jonrob/MarketingSchedule 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/ 3. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Join === Fedora Twitters === You can now follow most major Fedora announcements via Twitter. Just choose to follow fedora_linux[1] from your Twitter account. Alternately, you can choose to follow Fedora Linux major news announcements via RSS[2]. Twitter[3] provides a social network tied together via 140 character status messages. 1. ↑ http://twitter.com/fedora_linux 2. ↑ http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline/16598186.rss 3. ↑ http://twitter.com/about#about === Fedora 11 Alpha Ships with Windows Cross Compiler === Fedora 11 now includes the Windows cross compiler MinGW[1], a development environment for Fedora users who want to save time and duplication of effort by cross-compiling their programs to run on Windows without actually having to use Windows during development. 1. ↑ http://www.mingw.org/ == Ambassadors == In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero === North American Ambassadors Take Reins of XO Program === During the week following FUDcon, it was suggested that the Fedora Ambassadors in North America run the NA Developer XO program for an initial period of 6 months. The reasons for Ambassadors taking the reins on this project are: * Ambassadors can help the NA Developer XO program by seeking help, freeing up developers already involved to concentrate on their work. * The Ambassadors are already in place, going to every major event and tons of minor events recruiting contributors to Fedora. * Ambassadors have had some moderate success getting people involved with both Fedora and OLPC/Sugar. OLPC decided to take the Ambassadors up on the offer and shipped 100 XOs to the FAmNA. Guidelines have been set - subject to the guidance of the OLPC SIG -- and the wiki, which has just been started and is in the process of refining, can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_developers_XO_program Essentially the bar that has been set is: * Maintain a sugar-* package in Fedora and agree to maintain it for two releases. Alternately maintain a package that was in OLPC4 and has been merged. * Develop a Sugar activity. To keep this in focus I have adopted Greg Dekoenigsberg's 'holy list of 4th grade math lessons' as acceptable activities: http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Gdk/4th_Grade_Maths * QA (well not really): While FAmNA isn't actively looking for QA help, but if someone with extensive QA experience and lots of time presents itself we won't pass it up. === North America Polo Shirt Order === Pascal Calarco has initiated another round of ordering for Ambassador Polos for North American Ambassadors as announced on the Fedora Ambassador mailing list. There is also additional information here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_North_America_(FAMNA)#Fedora_Ambassador_Polo_Shirts_for_FAMNA === FAD SCaLE coming up 2009-02-20 === The Fedora Activity Day[1] at the Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE)[2] will be from 9am - 6pm on Friday, February 20th at the Westin Airport Los Angeles, in Los Angeles, California. There will be breaks and such, but the FAD will be treated much like a sprint. We're here to get something accomplished -- specifically font packaging and documentation -- so come on by and help us out for an hour or all day. We'd love to have you there! Also, if you can make SCaLE from the Southern California area, stop by the Fedora booth. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x 2. ↑ http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org/ === Got Ambassador News? === Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd be glad to put it in this weekly report. == Developments == In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley === Fedora 11 Alpha Released === Jesse Keating announced[1] the availability of Fedora 11 Alpha on 2009-02-05. His beautiful poetry was accompanied by a suggestion to read the Release Notes[2]. One change which drew[3] extensive commentary on @fedora-test was the default disabling of the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace key combination. This traditionally kills the X server and to regain the usual behavior it is necessary to create an Xorg.conf file (these no longer exist by default either) and add the line Option "DontZap" "false" to it. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00004.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00118.html === Fedora 11 Will Support i586 Instruction Set === Last week (FWN#161[1]) we reported on a proposal to cease building Fedora 11 for the i586 CPU instruction set. FESCo had delayed its decision in order to discuss the matter further. The issue was addressed[2] on 2009-02-05 with the outcome that a proposal by Dennis Gilmore to continue supporting i586 for the duration of Fedora 11 but to transition to i686 for Fedora 12 was supported. Prior to the meeting Warren Togami summed up[3] the advice of Jakub Jel?nek as: "Jakub recommends i586.rpm for Fedora 11, because it doesn't gain us much of anything to go with i686 minimum. The benefits of i586 to i686 are simply not important because cmov is usually not a worthwhile optimization on ia32." An interesting suggestion by Adam Jackson was[4][5] that if there is a committed user-base of i586 users they could probably support it in the Secondary Architecture (see FWN#92[6]) infrastructure. Ulrich Drepper and Dominik Mierzejewski debated[7] whether the use of cmov can in some circumstances cause performance degradation. It is unclear exactly what performance benefits could be obtained by passing various architecture-specific flag combinations to GCC but it does seem that the burden of building and maintenance will be eased significantly by these changes. As a related change[8] x86_64 kernels will be installed with a 32-bit userspace. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/LatestIssue#Dropping_Support_for_i586_Architecture_.3F 2. ↑ http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2009-02-05.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00200.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00282.html 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00407.html 6. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue92#Secondary_Arch_Proposal_Cont. 7. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00240.html 8. ↑ http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2009-02-05.html === RFC: Power Management === Phil Knirsch initiated[1] a discussion of attempts to decrease power consumption especially in userland. A wiki page[2] reflects some of the research Phil has pulled together. Richard Hughes pointed[3] out some interesting work on DeviceKit-power where he built on powertop. Olivier Galibert raised[4] a possible problem with Richard's use of D-Bus itself causing wakeups, but according to Colin Walters a patch existed[5] to fix this problem. Many of the items suggested in Phil's page for documentation were suggested by Bill Nottingham as desiderata for defaults. While Phil agreed[6] in general he itemized some of the problems. These include problems with network interfaces and hard-disk spindowns which may be approachable as a result of a tuned daemon on which Phil is working. An addendum of audio hardware power-saving was made by Eric Sandeen along with a list of bugs which led[7] Phil to wonder if a tracker bug to collate all the information would be useful. Matthew Garrett expressed[8] some worries that hard-disk power-saving would cause physical wear and the relatime patches to work around over-aggressive deletion of content in /tmp would continue to be stalled. The importance of separating out KDE and GNOME dependent features was noted[9] by Kevin Kofler. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00365.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagement 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00376.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00430.html 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00642.html 6. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00406.html 7. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00413.html 8. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00415.html 9. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00403.html === Rawhide Report 2009-02-07 === The last report[1] lists 14 new packages added, 57 modified and some broken dependencies. New packages include dissy, a graphical front-end to objdump and python-pygooglechart a Python wrapper for the Google Chart API. Richard Hughes suggested[2] that the update to PolicyKit-gnome-0.9.2-1.fc11 might be useful: "If you're having problems with PackageKit and buttons "not working" you need this update." Some of the x86_64 broken dependencies were due to to mono-2.4 being pushed to rawhide which led David Nielsen to suggest[3] that a heads up would have been useful. Alex Lancaster requested[4] that API/ABI breakage would be announced on @fedora-devel-announce instead of on the high-traffic @fedora-devel. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00661.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00669.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00674.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00746.html === New module-init-tools Uses Binary modules.dep|alias|symbols === An update to module-init-tools-3.6 was pushed to rawhide by Jon Masters in order to speed up[1] boot time significantly. The files modules.dep, modules.alias and modules.symbols will have binary versions which are used in preference to their old text versions. Jon asked[2] if the need to run depmod -a after upgrades to module-init-tools would upset anyone. There seemed to be general approbation of his changes and they should land soon for Fedora 9 also. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00477.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00353.html === New Georgian Fonts Packaged Rapidly === A call was put out[1] by Nicolas Mailhot for someone to package a completely new Georgian font pack created by Besarion Paata Gugushvili. Nicolas was especially keen to get this done quickly as he had contacted Besarion and been rewarded with completely new fonts not shipped by any other distro, licensed with the FSF font exception to the GPL all within nine hours! Tom Callaway responded[2] within mere hours. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00281.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00308.html === Distro-agnostic /boot Metadata Standard ? === A negative review in German IT magazine "c't" led[1] Christoph H?ger to ask if it was possible to preserve the ability to boot other GNU/Linux distros after installing Fedora. The most annoying point seemed to be that Windows installations are preserved. A moderately long thread resulted and covered several ideas to allow the GRUB bootloader to identify other distributions. One such was[2] .that there should be an agreement among distributions to use a shared metadata standard on boot partitions. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00273.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00345.html === GCC-4.4 Mass Rebuild Successful === Jakub Jel?nek reported[1] that a mass rebuild of rawhide (snapshotted on 2009-01-26) of 6228 packages had produced only a few hundred failures. He listed these by type of failure. Several of the packages listed failed to build for reasons other than GCC, for instance Java packages failed[2] due to maven being broken. Thorsten Leemhuis provided[3] a list of packages and owners sorted by owner which was generally appreciated. He pointed out: "Finding all your packages in such a long list gets really hard as soon as you maintain 10 or 15 packages." Problems reported due to a mismatch between the libstdc++ headers requirement of -march=i486 and Koji's default use of -march=i386 led[4] Jakub to whip up some fixes. He requested that CFLAGS were not altered in SPEC files. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00180.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00220.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00229.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00257.html === Help Rel-eng Accelerate Updates Processing === One bottleneck in the processing of updates to packages is that they need to be signed. Work is ongoing to automate this (see FWN#147[1]) with a signing-server codenamed "sigul". Christoph Wickert wondered[2] why it had taken over five days for an update to one of his packages to get to testing. When Josh Boyer responded that it was because one human (Jesse Keating) had to sign the packages and he had been also busy getting Fedora 11 Alpha released, Daniel P. Berrange suggested[3] adding more humans to help. Jesse Keating suggested[4] that anyone who wished to help could take some of the load off the release-engineering team so that they had more time for package signing. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue147#Unsigned_Rawhide_Packages_an_Attack_Vector_.3F 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00508.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00515.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00576.html == Translation == This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee === Fedora 10 Release Notes Updated === JohnMcDonough announced some updates for the Fedora 10 Release Notes[1]. The deadline for the submission of the translated updates has been declared as 17th February 2009[2]. The translations have to be submitted in the f-10 branch. 1. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00001.html 2. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00007.html === L10n Infrastructure Roadmap Proposal === Further to the discussion[1] initiated by AsgeirFrimannsson about the L10n Infrastructure Roadmap, NorikoMizumoto has commented[2] that considering the upcoming deadline for F-11 and the past troubles faced during F-10, the current infrastructure would need a maintainer to ensure its smooth running at present. 1. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00000.html 2. ↑ https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00006.html == Infrastructure == This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-infrastructure-list http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure Contributing Writer: Huzaifa Sidhpurwala === CSI (Security Policy) Help === Frank Chiulli said[1] on the @fedora-infrastructure-list that he had implemented the CSI Security policy and he was seeing some strange messages in the logs and asked if someone could help him with that. Mike McGrath replied[2] to that saying that he suspected that before he was blocking these messages but did not notice. Seth Vidal said[3] that those are Windows/Samba/CIFS messages and if you have samba and/or windows running on the same network you will notice those. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00000.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00001.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00002.html === Public Calendaring System === Adam Williamson introduced[1] himself on the list saying that he was new in the Fedora QA department at Red Hat, his job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. He further said that something that would be nice to have for QA community is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be published. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00060.html == Artwork == In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei === Echo Monthly News === Martin Sourada posted[1] on @fedora-art the latest issue of Echo Monthly News[2] with information about the Echo Perspective theme and the new Echo Artist Scripts and Supporting Icon Artist Library. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00009.html 2. ↑ http://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue6 === Context Free Art === M?ir??n Duffy introduced[1] a "Programmatic Art Generator"[2], something she consider a "nifty FOSS tool [...], and it's even already in Fedora", with regrets[3] for not knowing about it when she created the "4 Foundation" posters[4]. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00010.html 2. ↑ http://www.contextfreeart.org/gallery/index.php 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00012.html 4. ↑ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mairin/3181889947/ == Security Week == In this section, we highlight the security stories from the week in Fedora. Contributing Writer: Josh Bressers === Encryption Security === With all the recent talk of encrypting hard drives, the cold boot method, and using proper passwords, this[1] xkcd comic reminds us of the weakest link in all cryptography, the person with the password. 1. ↑ http://xkcd.com/538 === Running Things as root is a Bad Idea === While I always knew this, this article still sort of blows my mind: Windows Security Improved By Denial Of Administrative Rights[1] To quote the article: ... configuring users to operate without administrative rights mitigates the impact of 92% of "critical" Microsoft vulnerabilities ... 92%, that is mind boggling. It's been sound advice for a long time in the Linux world, not to do things as root. I suspect if we expected everyone to be doing everything as root, virtual any minor security flaw would suddenly become a very serious matter. 1. ↑ http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/app-security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=213001021&subSection=Enterprise+Applications == Security Advisories == In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley === Fedora 10 Security Advisories === * roundcubemail-0.2-7.stable.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00018.html * sudo-1.6.9p17-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00025.html * gpsdrive-2.09-7.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00043.html * libcdaudio-0.99.12p2-11.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00103.html * gnumeric-1.8.2-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00112.html * nss-3.12.2.0-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00114.html * boinc-client-6.4.5-2.20081217svn.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00137.html * java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-9.b14.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00194.html * xulrunner-1.9.0.6-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00220.html * firefox-3.0.6-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00221.html * epiphany-extensions-2.24.0-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00222.html * devhelp-0.22-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00223.html * epiphany-2.24.3-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00224.html * evolution-rss-0.1.2-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00225.html * blam-1.8.5-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00226.html * galeon-2.0.7-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00227.html * google-gadgets-0.10.5-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00228.html * gnome-web-photo-0.3-14.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00231.html * gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-26.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00229.html * gecko-sharp2-0.13-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00230.html * kazehakase-0.5.6-1.fc10.3 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00232.html * mozvoikko-0.9.5-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00233.html * Miro-1.2.8-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00234.html * pcmanx-gtk2-0.3.8-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00235.html * mugshot-1.2.2-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00236.html * ruby-gnome2-0.18.1-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00237.html * yelp-2.24.0-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00238.html === Fedora 9 Security Advisories === * boinc-client-6.4.5-2.20081217svn.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00034.html * roundcubemail-0.2-7.stable.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00082.html * nss-3.12.2.0-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00096.html * gpsdrive-2.09-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00187.html * libcdaudio-0.99.12p2-11.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00188.html * gnumeric-1.8.2-4.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00211.html * xulrunner-1.9.0.6-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00240.html * firefox-3.0.6-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00241.html * chmsee-1.0.1-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00242.html * epiphany-extensions-2.22.1-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00243.html * epiphany-2.22.2-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00244.html * cairo-dock-1.6.3.1-1.fc9.3 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00245.html * blam-1.8.5-5.fc9.1 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00246.html * gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-23.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00247.html * galeon-2.0.7-5.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00248.html * gnome-web-photo-0.3-17.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00249.html * devhelp-0.19.1-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00250.html * evolution-rss-0.1.0-6.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00251.html * google-gadgets-0.10.5-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00252.html * kazehakase-0.5.6-1.fc9.3 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00253.html * Miro-1.2.7-4.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00254.html * mozvoikko-0.9.5-6.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00255.html * gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-25.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00256.html * ruby-gnome2-0.17.0-5.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00257.html * mugshot-1.2.2-5.fc9 -https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00258.html * totem-2.23.2-10.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00259.html * yelp-2.22.1-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00260.html == Virtualization == In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, and @libvirt-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley === Enterprise Management Tools List === This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list ==== virt-manager and QEMU Disk Polling Logs ==== Radek Hladik noticed[1] "when image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-manager is running and polling VMs stats image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt log in /var/log/libivrt/qemu/vmname is filling with messages" on the number of disk operations. After a day the log had grown to 100MB. Daniel P. Berrange accepted[2] on behalf of libvirt and Cole Robinson described[3] how to turn of disk polling in virt-manager. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00019.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00021.html 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00020.html ==== virt-viewer Persistance Through Guest Reboots ==== Daniel P. Berrange said[1] that by Fedora 11 image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-viewer will persist and wait for a guest to resume rather than exit when a guest reboots. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00004.html ==== virt-install Wait Indefinitely for Windows Guests ==== Since Windows reboots during installation, John Levon patched[1] virt-install to wait 120 minutes while installing a Windows guest. After some discussion it was decided it should wait indefinitely instead. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00005.html === Fedora Virtualization List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ==== Fedora Virt Status Update ==== Mark McLoughlin composed[1] another informative weekly update on the status of virtualization development in Fedora. Some highlights included: * A pvmmu problem casues some guest installs on an F11 Alpha host to oops during heavy network activity (RHBZ #480822) * Work has begun on Fedora 11 virtualization release notes. * The 0.6.0 release of image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt was not completely without problems. * All Fedora 11 virtualization features can be found all together. * The KVM/QEMU merge project has settled on a naming scheme. * KVM PCI device assignment continues to have issues. The "core of the problem is that devices must be reset before being assigned if they have been previously used in the host." * The addition of bzImage loading support to the Xen hypervisor is enabling users to build test Dom0 kernels. * A detailed of accounting reveals the bug count going from 191 to 192. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00061.html ==== Merging KVM and QEMU Packages ==== A feature[1] in the works for Fedora 11 is a merge of the image:Echo-package-16px.pngkvm package with the image:Echo-package-16px.pngqemu package. Glauber Costa recently took the first step in this process by creating a test build[2] and starting a very long thread[3] on naming of all the subpackages which will soon make up QEMU. 1. ↑ Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge 2. ↑ http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1105051 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00000.html === Fedora Xen List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list. ==== bzImage Dom0 Support in Rawhide Xen ==== Pasi K?rkk?inen announced[1] the latest image:Echo-package-16px.pngxen builds in Rawhide support bzImage compressed dom0 kernels. Xen previously only supported zImage compressed kernels. This development was one of the pre-requisite work items for the Xen pvops Dom0 feature. This good news was tempered by the fact that there is still no dom0 capable image:Echo-package-16px.pngkernel in Rawhide. However, such a kernel can be built[2] for testing. Gerd Hoffmann reports[3] success doing just that. Such kernels are not yet stable enough for use[4]. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-February/msg00001.html 2. ↑ http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00027.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00055.html ==== Test Dom0 Xen Kernel RPM Available ==== M A Young built[1] a dom0 capable kernel RPM. It's suitable only for testing; "use it very much at your own risk". 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-February/msg00014.html === Libvirt List === This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ==== Fix for Fallout From Failed QEMU Guest Starts ==== Daniel P. Berrange fixed[1] a series of events which manifested when a QEMU guest failed to start. Subsequent client connections would fail, CPU would rise to 100%, and virsh would hang. (RHBZ #484414) 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00104.html ==== sVirt Patches to Merge in libvirt ==== Daniel J Walsh looked[1] at James Morris sVirt[2] patches for image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt. "James patch, allows libvirt to read the SELinux context out of the xml database and execute image:Echo-package-16px.pngqemu with the context. The second componant [sic] is to pass the context of the image(s) and allow libvirt to not only set the image, but also update the default labels on disk, so a relabel will not change the context." Daniel J Walsh started working on this second component and wondered if they were acceptable for committing to libvirt yet. Daniel P. Berrange expressed[3] satisfaction with how the patches integrate with libvirt adding "If yourself & James are happy with what they're doing from a SELinux / security model point of view, then there's no reason they shouldn't be posted for final merge now." 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00144.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SVirt_Mandatory_Access_Control 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00145.html ==== Manage iptables with libvirt ==== Karl Wirth asked[1] "What if we could flexibly change the iptables rules for the different guests as they are deployed onto the node/host". This thought was not new.[2] David Lutterkort pointed[3] out some of the thorny problems with this proposal including the fact that "network devices may be directly assigned to guests - in that case, we won't even see any of the packets the guest sends or receives". Summarizing that "iptables management belongs into a higher-level management app, like ovirt[4], not libvirt." 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00147.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue138#Libvirt_and_Persistent_Iptables_Rules 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00152.html 4. ↑ http://ovirt.org/ == Ask Fedora == In this section, we answer general questions from Fedora community. Send your questions to askfedora AT fedoraproject.org and Fedora News Team will bring you answers from the Fedora Developers and Contributors to selected number of questions every week as part of our weekly news report. Please indicate if you do not wish your name and/or email address to be published. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AskFedora Writers: Chris Tyler, Rahul Sundaram === Standardized Package Format === Arthur Pemberton asked: "When are the big players in the Linux ecosystem going to converge on a single package system which is a superset of .deb and .rpm? This seems like something that needs to be done before this mostly unnecessary difference gets too ingrained to be changed." Two reasons are usually given for converging on a single packaging standard. The first is to create packages that can be installed on many distributions without change; this is particularly attractive to third-party software vendors who wish to create a single repository of their software for use with a range of distributions rather than package and distribute their software within those distributions. In order to support truly portable packages, it is necessary to standardize not only the package format, but the available libraries, library versions, file locations, utility commands, and system services. This is proved by the fact that, for example, Fedora and SUSE RPMs may not usually cleanly install on the the other distribution, despite using a common package format. It is similar for Debian and Ubuntu. The Linux Standard Base (LSB)[1] project of The Linux Foundation[2] has been working on such a system-wide standard for many years, walking the fine line between standardizing too little (yielding an ineffective standard) and standardizing too much (leaving little room for differentiation between distributions). The work of LSB has been internationally recognized as ISO/IEC 23360. However LSB is a trailing edge standard and Fedora usually is much ahead. In terms of packaging, LSB mandates support for a restricted version of RPM[3], without triggers and with restrictions on the content and execution-order requirements of scriptlets[4]. These restrictions ensure that LSB-compliant RPMs can be successfully processed by conversion tools such as Debian's "alien" command. However, as its name implies, the LSB defines only a base for a distribution, and many of a distribution's packages need to take advantage of a broader feature set than provided for by the LSB. This need is expressed in the more advanced features provided by the full RPM and DEB package specifications. It should be noted that a number of package systems have been developed which attempt to address cross-distribution packaging issues, including Autopackage[5], ZeroInstall[6], and Klik[7] (ZeroInstall and Klik also enabling user-level package installation) -- but these have not gain widespread support. The second advantage to a standard package format is a reduction in the duplication of labour by each distribution, especially if packaging information (such as a basic RPM .spec file) is provided by the upstream software source. However, packaging standards, security configuration (such as SELinux policy), and naming conventions vary so significantly between distributions that extensive customization of the package is usually required, greatly reducing the value of distributing standard package information. The existence of multiple GNU/Linux distributions fuels a productive competitiveness which spurs innovation[8]. As long as multiple distributions thrive, multiple package formats are likely to remain in use. Freedesktop.org provides a cross distribution forum[9] which many distributions have been using to discuss and collaborate on common issues. The Fedora Project also prefers to work closely with upstream software[10] as a matter of principle to minimize differences. 1. ↑ http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB 2. ↑ http://www.linuxfoundation.org/ 3. ↑ http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/packagefmt.html 4. ↑ http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/pkgscripts.html 5. ↑ http://autopackage.org/ 6. ↑ http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/ 7. ↑ http://klik.atekon.de/ 8. ↑ http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090202#feature 9. ↑ http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions 10. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list From awilliam at redhat.com Wed Feb 11 22:55:11 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:55:11 -0800 Subject: Hi there - interest in QA group news? Message-ID: <1234392911.4573.2.camel@adam.local.net> Hi, folks. I'm Adam Williamson. I was recently hired by Red Hat to work on driving increased community participation in QA activities. One thing I'd like to do is spread the word more effectively about things QA actually does, and I think FWN might be a good vehicle for that. Would there be any interest in me writing a short section for FWN each week to sum up any interesting news from the QA group? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Thu Feb 12 00:19:26 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:19:26 -0500 Subject: Hi there - interest in QA group news? In-Reply-To: <1234392911.4573.2.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1234392911.4573.2.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <1234397966.30028.1299892207@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:55:11 -0800, "Adam Williamson" said: > Hi, folks. I'm Adam Williamson. I was recently hired by Red Hat to work > on driving increased community participation in QA activities. > > One thing I'd like to do is spread the word more effectively about > things QA actually does, and I think FWN might be a good vehicle for > that. Would there be any interest in me writing a short section for FWN > each week to sum up any interesting news from the QA group? Thanks! Hi Adam, That would be awesome. We're sorely lacking that information and it would be very helpful to have someone with your knowledge to point out what's going on. Here's a description of our basic workflow: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/WorkFlow I've added your name to a new beat in the table but am unsure of your FAS username: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats#Beats_Sections If you want to title it something other than QualityAssurance then go ahead. Ditto with changing the stub: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/QualityAssurance In short: welcome! Best wishes -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Feb 12 01:20:38 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:20:38 -0800 Subject: Hi there - interest in QA group news? In-Reply-To: <1234397966.30028.1299892207@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234392911.4573.2.camel@adam.local.net> <1234397966.30028.1299892207@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1234401638.4573.11.camel@adam.local.net> On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 19:19 -0500, Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hi Adam, > > That would be awesome. We're sorely lacking that information and it > would be very helpful to have someone with your knowledge to point out > what's going on. > > Here's a description of our basic workflow: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/WorkFlow Wow, that's pretty organized. So - I just write up the content, following the style guides, at the place linked from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats , to be ready by Sunday evening, and update Beats when it's done? That's great. Good system. > I've added your name to a new beat in the table but am unsure of your > FAS username: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats#Beats_Sections It's 'adamwill' ('adamw' and 'adamwill' are my normal aliases, but I don't have them for redhat.com yet). I'll fix the page. > If you want to title it something other than QualityAssurance then go > ahead. Ditto with changing the stub: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/QualityAssurance No, QualityAssurance sounds fine. I will try and get started for this week's issue, then. Thanks a bunch! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From panneerselvamit34 at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 12:07:50 2009 From: panneerselvamit34 at gmail.com (panneer selvam) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:50 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Ask Fedora : Linux package management] In-Reply-To: <498EE19A.60902@fedoraproject.org> References: <4975E842.8090104@fedoraproject.org> <1232464233.30616.55.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> <4984C129.7000206@fedoraproject.org> <1233441097.23247.7.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> <498EE19A.60902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <108832860902120407l7bac6b8fv963f80b88fdf289b@mail.gmail.com> hai sir,i am studing in kongu engg college IT 2nd year .red hat exam details give me sir. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Thu Feb 12 12:36:41 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:36:41 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Ask Fedora : Linux package management] In-Reply-To: <108832860902120407l7bac6b8fv963f80b88fdf289b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4975E842.8090104@fedoraproject.org> <1232464233.30616.55.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> <4984C129.7000206@fedoraproject.org> <1233441097.23247.7.camel@localhost6.localdomain6> <498EE19A.60902@fedoraproject.org> <108832860902120407l7bac6b8fv963f80b88fdf289b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <499417D9.1040409@nd.edu> Greetings Paneer! I am not sure where you are studying. Could you give us a bit more information so we can direct you to the right person? We can find some Fedora Ambassadors, hopefully in your country, and one of these folks might be a good start. A listing of Fedora Ambassadors is at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList Please let us know if this response suggests any further questions, and we'll be sure to try to help! Warm regards, - pascal Fedora Ambassador, Indiana USA panneer selvam wrote: > > > hai sir,i am studing in kongu engg college IT 2nd year .red hat exam > details give me sir. > From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Thu Feb 12 17:01:29 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:01:29 -0500 Subject: Anyone know how to get rid of these ugly html character entities? Message-ID: <1234458089.25020.1300016571@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi all, Heads up to the other editors preparing the mailshot: I see that the LWN.net[1] copy of FWN#162 has some ugly HTML numeric character references. The little upwards arrow[2] which is used on the wikipage to allow readers to jump back to the text seems not to be replaced with a code when it's processed through maillists. Anyone got any ideas of how to get rid of this? All I can think of was using vim to manually find the hex for the multibyte character (positioned cursor over up-arrow and did a :ga and got 2191 as the hex code) and then substituting over the entire file using a: % s/CTRL-v u 2191//g It's no biggie, but I'd rather not have an extra editing step if anyone can suggest something automated. [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/318707/ [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/entities.html : Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Thu Feb 12 17:24:32 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:24:32 -0500 Subject: Anyone know how to get rid of these ugly html character entities? In-Reply-To: <1234458089.25020.1300016571@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234458089.25020.1300016571@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1234459472.29536.1300031875@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:01:29 -0500, "Oisin Feeley" said: [snip] > character references. The little upwards arrow[2] which is used on the > wikipage to allow readers to jump back to the text seems not to be > replaced with a code when it's processed through maillists. Anyone got s/seems not to be/seems to be -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From pcalarco at nd.edu Thu Feb 12 21:52:00 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:52:00 -0500 Subject: Anyone know how to get rid of these ugly html character entities? In-Reply-To: <1234458089.25020.1300016571@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234458089.25020.1300016571@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <49949A00.6060004@nd.edu> The arrows are correctly rendered in FWN 161 for me, how does that one look for you, Oisin? What I started out with was the printable version of the wiki page, and then threw this into an editor to tweak the headings and such. - pascal Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hi all, > > Heads up to the other editors preparing the mailshot: > > I see that the LWN.net[1] copy of FWN#162 has some ugly HTML numeric > character references. The little upwards arrow[2] which is used on the > wikipage to allow readers to jump back to the text seems not to be > replaced with a code when it's processed through maillists. Anyone got > any ideas of how to get rid of this? All I can think of was using vim > to manually find the hex for the multibyte character (positioned cursor > over up-arrow and did a :ga and got 2191 as the hex code) and then > substituting over the entire file using a: > % s/CTRL-v u 2191//g > > It's no biggie, but I'd rather not have an extra editing step if anyone > can suggest something automated. > > [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/318707/ > [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/entities.html : CDATA "↑" -- upwards arrow, U+2191 ISOnum--> > > Best, From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Sun Feb 15 17:55:27 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:55:27 -0500 Subject: Developments written. Anyone willing to take charge of #163 Message-ID: <1234720527.2876.1300490263@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi all, Developments beat is done and dusted. Huzaifa, Pascal can one of you take charge of #163? I can get to doing maybe an hour in 5 hours from the timestamp of this email but Monday I will be out of action until the evening. General points to remember for all contributors: 1. Please use http instead of https for archive references where possible. 2. Please use User:fasname to identify people if you can -- not always easy and there are redirects in place so don't sweat this if it's too much trouble 3. Please use the new inline reference markup Thank you, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu Sun Feb 15 18:25:40 2009 From: dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu (Dale Bewley) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:25:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: redhat archives down ? In-Reply-To: <860644726.124881234722080986.JavaMail.root@zebra.lib.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <1774828274.124911234722340930.JavaMail.root@zebra.lib.ucdavis.edu> I guess that's what ya get for waiting till the last minute. The list archives are all down with errors of either: "redhat.com is temporarily unavailable. Please try back later." or "Planned Maintenance We are currently performing routine systems maintenance and our on-line systems are temporarily unavailable." I'll try to work on the Virtualization Beat later. -- Dale Bewley - Unix Administrator - Shields Library - UC Davis GPG: 0xB098A0F3 0D5A 9AEB 43F4 F84C 7EFD 1753 064D 2583 B098 A0F3 From pcalarco at nd.edu Sun Feb 15 18:36:35 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:36:35 -0500 Subject: Developments written. Anyone willing to take charge of #163 In-Reply-To: <1234720527.2876.1300490263@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234720527.2876.1300490263@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <499860B3.90105@nd.edu> Yes, I am off from work tomorrow, taking care of some sick kids, so can shepherd #163 through. - pascal Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hi all, > > Developments beat is done and dusted. Huzaifa, Pascal can one of you > take charge of #163? I can get to doing maybe an hour in 5 hours from > the timestamp of this email but Monday I will be out of action until the > evening. > > General points to remember for all contributors: > > 1. Please use http instead of https for archive references where > possible. > 2. Please use User:fasname to identify people if you can -- not always > easy and there are redirects in place so don't sweat this if it's too > much trouble > 3. Please use the new inline reference markup > > Thank you, From awilliam at redhat.com Sun Feb 15 18:53:13 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:53:13 -0800 Subject: QA section written - please check Message-ID: <1234723993.3709.11.camel@adam.local.net> Hi, guys. I've just completed the QA section for FWN. As it's my first shot, can people please check it over and make sure I didn't screw up? :) Thanks! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/QualityAssurance -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu Sun Feb 15 21:10:24 2009 From: dlbewley at lib.ucdavis.edu (Dale Bewley) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:10:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: QA section written - please check In-Reply-To: <2108150727.125741234732121276.JavaMail.root@zebra.lib.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <140808387.125801234732224580.JavaMail.root@zebra.lib.ucdavis.edu> ----- "Adam Williamson" wrote: > Hi, guys. I've just completed the QA section for FWN. As it's my > first > shot, can people please check it over and make sure I didn't screw > up? :) Thanks! > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/QualityAssurance "In this section, we cover the activities of the QA teams. " It might be nice to link from here to info on the QA team and/or a mailing list if there is one. Something to entice people to find out how to contribute. You might consider updating all the https wiki links to http for the benefit of caching proxies, etc. I think this will be a very informative beat. I'm glad you're doing it. -- Dale Bewley - Unix Administrator - Shields Library - UC Davis GPG: 0xB098A0F3 0D5A 9AEB 43F4 F84C 7EFD 1753 064D 2583 B098 A0F3 From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Sun Feb 15 23:43:33 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:43:33 -0500 Subject: Developments written. Anyone willing to take charge of #163 In-Reply-To: <499860B3.90105@nd.edu> References: <1234720527.2876.1300490263@webmail.messagingengine.com> <499860B3.90105@nd.edu> Message-ID: <1234741413.11299.1300532315@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:36:35 -0500, "Pascal Calarco" said: > Yes, I am off from work tomorrow, taking care of some sick kids, so can > shepherd #163 through. Yet again, many thanks Pascal. Hope the kids are not too unhappy? Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Sun Feb 15 23:47:39 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:47:39 -0500 Subject: redhat archives down ? In-Reply-To: <1774828274.124911234722340930.JavaMail.root@zebra.lib.ucdavis.edu> References: <1774828274.124911234722340930.JavaMail.root@zebra.lib.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <1234741659.12073.1300532443@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:25:40 -0800 (PST), "Dale Bewley" said: > I guess that's what ya get for waiting till the last minute. The list > archives are all down with errors of either: > > "redhat.com is temporarily unavailable. Please try back later." > > or > > "Planned Maintenance We are currently performing routine systems > maintenance and our on-line systems are temporarily unavailable." > > I'll try to work on the Virtualization Beat later. They seem good now. Re your previous email: like you I've really wished there were some way that message sent out to the mailing-lists contained some archive information in their headers. That is, we would be able to extract a http://redhat.com/archives/some-mail-list/date/msgXXXX.html information from them. I'll get back to you on possibly useful vim macros and functions later. Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Sun Feb 15 23:55:12 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:55:12 -0500 Subject: QA section written - please check In-Reply-To: <1234723993.3709.11.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1234723993.3709.11.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <1234742112.13762.1300533273@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:53:13 -0800, "Adam Williamson" said: > Hi, guys. I've just completed the QA section for FWN. As it's my first > shot, can people please check it over and make sure I didn't screw > up? :) Thanks! It flows very nicely and is very readable. I think Dale's comments are useful and would add that it's probably best to specify dates and times as per the style guide[1]. Apart from the large number of local variations in how dates are written out the content is archived so it's easier for people reading it to see 2009-02-19 than "this Thursday, February 19th". [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/StyleGuide/DatesAndTimes Thanks again for taking on this beat Adam! Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 16 01:11:05 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:11:05 -0500 Subject: Anyone know how to get rid of these ugly html character entities? In-Reply-To: <49949A00.6060004@nd.edu> References: <1234458089.25020.1300016571@webmail.messagingengine.com> <49949A00.6060004@nd.edu> Message-ID: <1234746665.29510.1300542401@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:52:00 -0500, "Pascal Calarco" said: > > What I started out with was the printable version of the wiki page, and > then threw this into an editor to tweak the headings and such. > > - pascal > > Oisin Feeley wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Heads up to the other editors preparing the mailshot: > > > > I see that the LWN.net[1] copy of FWN#162 has some ugly HTML numeric > > character references. The little upwards arrow[2] which is used on the > > wikipage to allow readers to jump back to the text seems not to be > > replaced with a code when it's processed through maillists. Anyone got > > any ideas of how to get rid of this? All I can think of was using vim > > to manually find the hex for the multibyte character (positioned cursor > > over up-arrow and did a :ga and got 2191 as the hex code) and then > > substituting over the entire file using a: > > % s/CTRL-v u 2191//g > > > > It's no biggie, but I'd rather not have an extra editing step if anyone > > can suggest something automated. > > > > [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/318707/ > > [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/entities.html : > CDATA "↑" -- upwards arrow, U+2191 ISOnum--> > The arrows are correctly rendered in FWN 161 for me, how does that one > look for you, Oisin? http://lwn.net/Articles/317847/ What I'm seeing with Firefox-3.0.6 (same as used for previous report) right now are question marks "?" where the up-arrows should be. Not as deranged looking as the numeric character references, but still not nice. Good night, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From awilliam at redhat.com Mon Feb 16 04:32:43 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:32:43 -0800 Subject: QA section written - please check In-Reply-To: <140808387.125801234732224580.JavaMail.root@zebra.lib.ucdavis.edu> References: <140808387.125801234732224580.JavaMail.root@zebra.lib.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <1234758763.3709.20.camel@adam.local.net> On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 13:10 -0800, Dale Bewley wrote: > ----- "Adam Williamson" wrote: > > Hi, guys. I've just completed the QA section for FWN. As it's my > > first > > shot, can people please check it over and make sure I didn't screw > > up? :) Thanks! > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/QualityAssurance > > "In this section, we cover the activities of the QA teams. " > > It might be nice to link from here to info on the QA team and/or a > mailing list if there is one. Something to entice people to find out > how to contribute. Good idea. Well, the current web space kinda sucks, but it's better than nothing =) > You might consider updating all the https wiki links to http for the > benefit of caching proxies, etc. Ah - I adjusted the mailing list links as that was mentioned somewhere, but didn't think to change the others. Thanks for the tip. > I think this will be a very informative beat. I'm glad you're doing it. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 16 05:23:39 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:23:39 +0100 (CET) Subject: announcements Message-ID: "Announcements" beat for this week is complete. From awilliam at redhat.com Mon Feb 16 15:35:26 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:35:26 -0800 Subject: QA section written - please check In-Reply-To: <1234742112.13762.1300533273@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1234723993.3709.11.camel@adam.local.net> <1234742112.13762.1300533273@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1234798526.3709.22.camel@adam.local.net> On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 18:55 -0500, Oisin Feeley wrote: > It flows very nicely and is very readable. I think Dale's comments are > useful and would add that it's probably best to specify dates and times > as per the style guide[1]. Apart from the large number of local > variations in how dates are written out the content is archived so it's > easier for people reading it to see 2009-02-19 than "this Thursday, > February 19th". > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/StyleGuide/DatesAndTimes > > Thanks again for taking on this beat Adam! Oops - missed that bit. I'll fix it if you didn't already. Thanks. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Feb 16 15:46:27 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:46:27 -0500 Subject: QA section written - please check In-Reply-To: <1234798526.3709.22.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1234723993.3709.11.camel@adam.local.net> <1234742112.13762.1300533273@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1234798526.3709.22.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <49998A53.6030003@nd.edu> I'll change these as I edit this issue -- thanks all! - pascal Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 18:55 -0500, Oisin Feeley wrote: > >> It flows very nicely and is very readable. I think Dale's comments are >> useful and would add that it's probably best to specify dates and times >> as per the style guide[1]. Apart from the large number of local >> variations in how dates are written out the content is archived so it's >> easier for people reading it to see 2009-02-19 than "this Thursday, >> February 19th". >> >> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/StyleGuide/DatesAndTimes >> >> Thanks again for taking on this beat Adam! > > Oops - missed that bit. I'll fix it if you didn't already. Thanks. From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Feb 16 16:33:08 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:33:08 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #163 Message-ID: <49999544.8080102@nd.edu> Fedora Weekly News Issue 163 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 163 for the week ending February 15th, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue163 This week's issue provides some detail on the upcoming Fedora Activity Day (FAD) at Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE), many posts from the Fedora Planet blogosphere, and selected wonderful event reports from FOSDEM. We welcome a brand new Quality Assurance beat this issue, with coverage of the latest test day focusing on iSCSI for Fedora 11, summary of the latest QA weekly meeting, and discussion of the process for critical-release bugs. In Development news, discussion of FLOSS multimedia codec support in Fedora, preview looks at F11 release notes, and the availability of CrossReport, a tool to evaluate the ease with which applications can be ported to Windows using the MinGW libraries. From the Translation team, updates and details on the infrastructure roadmap for translation, and migration of Damned Lies to the new Django-based interface. Infrastructure reports availability of WordPress multi-user for Fedora sub-projects, and planning for cgit as a replacement for gitweb on hosted2. Artwork has updates on the continuing evolution of Fedora 11 artwork. The Security Week beat examines recent discussion on Slashdot regarding 'how to argue the security of open source software,' and this issue wraps up with a summary of the security advisories for Fedora 9 and 10 over this past week. Enjoy! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents Contributing Writer: Max Spevack --- Slow News Week --- It was a quiet week on the announcements front, with nothing more than a few outage notifications being sent to the primary Fedora announcements mailing lists. Your correspondent promises to make an announcement this week, so that this space may be used to its full potential in next week's issue. --- Upcoming Events --- 2009-02-20: Fedora Activity Day @ SCaLE[1] 2009-02-20 - 2009-02-22: Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE)[2] Also, people are encouraged to register for Fedora or JBoss.org related speaking slots at LinuxTag 2009.[3] 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCaLE_7x_Event 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Berlin_and_LinuxTag_2009_talks -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin --- Activism Alert --- Oron Peled wrote[1] about a proposed new IETF standard for "Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions" which may be patent-encumbered before it is even approved. Paul W. Frields appealed[2] for prior art against a patent that covers a user interface that has multiple workspaces (filed 1987-03-25). --- General --- Dave Jones announced[3] some changes to the Fedora kernel packaging "to drop the regular 686 kernels. As of Fedora 11, the only 32-bit kernels built are '586' and '686-PAE' (and their -debug variants)." Lennart Poettering described[4] some of the new changes in the latest PulseAudio 0.9.15 release, including Flat Volumes, On-the-fly Reconfiguration of Devices (aka "S/PDIF Support"), Native support for 24bit samples and support for Airport Express. David Nalley wrote[5] about the Fedora Ambassadors giving away free XO laptops! To qualify, either "Package and maintain a sugar-* package for 2 releases or more" or "Build a Sugar activity that helps meet the 'holy list of 4th grade maths[6]'". Andrew Overholt announced[7] the release of the Linux Tools project for Eclipse. The release has lots of features from profiling and tracing with SystemTap to autoconf and RPM spec file editor (with autocomplete) support. Jef Spaleta expressed[8] mild excitement at Canonical's "Renewed focus on suspend resume". In a later post, he wrote[9] about comparing Linux (and even OSX) user experiences with respect to functionality regressions after an update. Seth Vidal mused[10] on the fact that a poster on Planet Gnome[11] had said that "Fedora is held to a higher standard" than certain other distributions. Harish Pillay reacted[12] to an IDC report claiming "Proprietary software products are much better documented than open source because of the volunteer nature of open source software development". 1. http://life-with-linux.blogspot.com/2009/02/internet-draft-transport-layer-security.html 2. http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1490 3. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/02/09/fedora-kernel-packaging/ 4. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/oh-nine-fifteen.html 5. http://www.nalley.sc/david/?p=196 6. http://sugarlabs.org/go/User:Gdk/4th_Grade_Maths 7. http://overholt.ca/wp/?p=117 8. http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/34551.html 9. http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/34592.html 10. http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/fedora-is-held-to-a-higher-standard/ 11. http://planet.gnome.org/ 12. http://harishpillay.livejournal.com/139904.html --- How-To --- Devan Goodwin explained[1] how to perform bandwidth-limited secure encrypted backups using duplicity and Amazon's S3 Storage Service. Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail described[2] how to enable "Disk snapshot backup in Linux". Lennart Poettering requested[3] that D-Bus interfaces be properly versioned, and described some best-practices including the hows and whys. 1. http://crispyinthedark.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/amazon-s3-duplicity-backups/ 2. http://blog.kagesenshi.org/2009/02/disk-snapshot-backup-in-linux.html 3. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/versioning-dbus.html --- Events --- Once again: So many people have written about attending FOSDEM that it would take an entire issue of FWN post all of the links. Instead an arbitrarily selection will be randomly chosen. http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/2009/02/11/some-fosdem-pictures/ http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/02/fosdem-day2.html http://spevack.livejournal.com/74638.html http://gregdek.livejournal.com/45847.html http://digitaurora.blogspot.com/2009/02/fosdem-2009-day-one.html http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/02/report-fel-fosdem-2009.html And on a slightly different note, Arindam Ghosh wrote[1] about (and posted photos of) Mikti'09[2]. 1. http://arindamghosh.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/mukti09-event-report/ 2. http://mukti09.in/ -- Ambassadors -- In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero --- FAD SCaLE coming up 2009-02-20 --- The Fedora Activity Day[1] at the Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE)[2] will be from 9am - 6pm on 2009-02-20 at the Westin Airport Los Angeles, in Los Angeles, California. There will be breaks and such, but the FAD will be treated much like a sprint. We're here to get something accomplished -- specifically font packaging and documentation -- so come on by and help us out for an hour or all day. We'd love to have you there! Also, if you can make SCaLE from the Southern California area, stop by the Fedora booth. SCaLE takes place on this weekend at the Westin Airport Los Angeles. For more information, visit the Southern California Linux Expo site[3]. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x 2. http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org/ 3. http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org --- Got Ambassador News? --- Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd be glad to put it in this weekly report. -- QualityAssurance -- In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1]. Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA --- Test Days --- This week's regular test day[1] was on iSCSI[2]. Martin Sivak and Hans de Goede represented the developers, and testing was lead by Marian Ganisin with assistance from Chris Williams, Mike Anderson, Michael Christie and James Laska. Test cases worked on during the test day can be seen on the page. Please record any additional test ideas or considerations at Exploratory Testing iSCSI. Consult the quick start guide[3] for creating a software-based iscsi target for use with testing. Next week's test day[4] will be on the 20 Second Startup[5] feature planned for Fedora 11. It will be held on 2009-02-19 in the #fedora-qa channel on Freenode IRC. Please drop by if you would like to help test and improve boot speed for Fedora 11. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-02-12 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/iSCSI 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Scsi-target-utils_Quickstart_Guide 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-02-19 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/20SecondStartup --- Weekly meetings --- The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-02-11. The full log is available[2]. Will Woods gave a status report on the progress of the autoqa[3] project, which is working on creating automated test scripts to run whenever certain events happen. He also reported on progress with the Nitrate[4] project, which is for collecting test cases and test plans and compiling results from running them. J?hann Gu?mundsson asked if it will be possible to pull existing test cases from the current Wiki-based system into Nitrate when it is released, and Will Woods said this is likely to be possible. The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[5] was held on February 10th. The group agreed that the current list of most-important components should be updated, and Edward Kirk will do this. Edward Kirk, Brennan Ashton and Adam Williamson (links) agreed that simple goals should be set for the group, but did not reach final agreement on what these should be. Adam Williamson suggested that Bug Days be revived and made weekly, and this idea was supported by Edward Kirk and Brennan Ashton. The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-02-18 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-qa, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-02-17 at 1700 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings 2. http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/fedora-qa/fedora-qa-20090211.log.html 3. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=autoqa.git;a=summary 4. http://fedorahosted.org/nitrate 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings --- Wiki re-organization --- Work continued on the ongoing project to rewrite and re-organize the main pages in the QA team's Wiki space[1]. Adam Williamson, J?hann Gu?mundsson, Christopher Beland and Leam Hall all contributed ideas, suggestions and drafts.[2][3] 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00126.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00371.html --- Release-critical bug process --- Adam Williamson initiated a discussion[1] regarding the process for handling release-critical bugs. Matej Cepl, James Laska, Jesse Keating, and John Poelstra contributed opinions. In the end it was agreed that the basic shape of the current process is a good one but the groups involved - BugZappers, release engineering, and developers - should communicate and collaborate more in deciding on release-critical bugs. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00276.html --- Xorg/Mesa/DRI testing --- Fran?ois Cami, together with others, proposed a project[1] to conduct organized testing of X.org and DRI functionality with a range of common hardware for Fedora 11. He highlighted four important areas he felt were needed for this: an opt-in system to record what hardware is owned by what testers (possibly utilizing Smolt), a system for producing test plans, a system for recording the results of tests, and regularly scheduled test sessions. J?hann Gu?mundsson supported the idea[2] and suggested that, while some of the features would require help from the infrastructure group, the QA group could at least immediately start writing test cases. James Laska pointed out that extensive information is needed to diagnose and fix X issues remotely. Fran?ois will work with the X maintainers to define exactly what information needs to be provided. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00554.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00559.html -- Developments -- In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley --- FLOSS Multimedia Codec Support --- Inspired by previous discussions on whether Fedora should distribute FLOSS content[1] Martin Sourada tried[2] to start a discussion about the poor support of FLOSS multimedia. Martin noted: "Out of the combinations of two FLOSS containers (matroska and ogg) and two FLOSS video codecs (dirac and theora) I know only one (ogg + theora) actually works in xine-lib (used by KDE4) which is pathetic." He asked for help in documenting the situation on a wiki page[3]. When Bastien Nocera suggested that the most important thing was to file bugs Martin responded[4] that this was what he was doing after first performing tests. An information packed sub-thread started[5] by Gregory Maxwell expanded the scope of the tests and started a discussion with Dominik Mierzejewski about the problem of ffmpeg providing sub-optimal implementations of unencumbered codecs. It seems that for reasons of efficiency ffmpeg re-invents the wheel from scratch instead of using and improving upstream implementations. Kevin Kofler also rose[6] to the implied challenge that GStreamer was preferable to xine-lib. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue161#Electronic_Design_Automation_Content_Without_Tools_.3F 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00794.html 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mso/Open_Multimedia 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00826.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00800.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00806.html --- Multiple Packages from One Source ? --- A question about how to handle the situation where a single source could be compiled with alternate databases was posted[1] by Steven Moix. The motion video motion detector software can be compiled to use either MySQL or Postgres. Steven explained that the problem was that "[...]you can't divide it into sub-packages, at the end it generates one big binary file [...]" and wondered should he just choose the database he preferred or propose two packages. Manuel Wolfshant expressed[2] what appeared to be the common wisdome: "personally I would compile twice, once enabling mysql and another time pgsql, and create 2 packages. each package would install a "motion-dbname" binary, and a symlink would allow access via the well known name "motion". Using alternatives would allow a switch between the two." Although it was admitted that David Woodhouse's suggestion[3] to make the program use loadable plugins was the ideal Tom Lane thought[4] that was "[...] a bit above and beyond what a packager should do. If he's also an upstream developer, then he should undertake that addition with his developer hat on; but it's *well* beyond the size of patch that a Fedora package should be carrying." The ability to specify alternate requires (similar to those used in the .deb package format[5]) was discussed[6] by Richard W.M. Jones and Tom Lane and dismissed as impractical in this case anyway due to variations in SQL. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00918.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00920.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00923.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01091.html 5. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01097.html --- Take a Peek at the Fedora 11 Release Notes --- Fresh from his work on the RHEL-5.3 Release Notes Ryan Lerch apprised[1] the list of the latest changes to the Fedora 11 Release Notes. Ryan sought early feedback and changes to documentation beats in order to give the community an early preview of the release notes. Initial feedback from Thorsten Leemhuis and Kevin Kofler and others indicated that the use of fixed-width instead of liquid layout was disliked by some people and loved[2] by others. Ryan also provided[3] an rpm of this Release Notes mockup. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00910.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00942.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg00911.html --- Heads Up: Noarch Subpackages Landing Soon --- Florian Festi warned[1] that the ability to produce noarch subpackages will soon be available in Fedora. This brings the benefit of being able to share these packages among different architectures thus reducing disk space and mirror bandwidth. Although rpm-4.6 supports noarch fully there are still some fixes to make to koji before the Fedora buildsystem can cope with noarch subpackages. Florian suggested that those who wanted to could experiment in mock with rpmdiff to compare the results across different architectures. He assured readers that there were no plans to force packagers to use this feature and invited anyone interested in developing the use of noarch in future release to a discussion. Florian later warned[2] that one potential negative outcome of using such sub-packages would be a proliferation of packages and consequent bloating of metadata which might affect yum. VilleSkytt? suggested[3] that it would be wise to make sure that use of BuildRequire: rpm-build >= 4.6.0 was enforced in order to ensure that earlier versions of rpmbuild did not produce noarch versions of the main package and other potential subpackages. Florian's response recognized[4] the problem but deprecated the use of BuildRequires to such an extent. One possible alternative which he proposed was to "[have Panu Matilainen backport a check that will make noarch packages (both regular and noarch) fail to build if they contain binaries [and ensure that this] additional check will be in place before koji will be updated[.]" This latter proposal stimulated a good deal of interest from Ralf Corsepius and Richard W.M. Jones as they were both concerned with cross-architecture issue. The definition of a "binary" seemed to be one unclear point. In a later thread Florian updated[5] a list of packages which could be easily turned into noarch subpackages. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01012.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01020.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01023.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01046.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01105.html --- Mass Rebuild Coming Soon --- Jesse Keating drew attention to "[...] a perfect storm brewing for Fedora 11" due to the need to rebuild with GCC-4.4 (see FWN#161[1], the use of i586 as the default supported architecture (see FWN#162[2] and the support of stronger hashes (last paragraph of FWN#107[3]). Apparently the time-constraints led to a desire to start the rebuild as soon as possible without giving maintainers an explicit window in which to do their own builds. Jesse preferred to give maintainers an ability to opt-out and sought suggestions on how this could be achieved. Jesse suggested that interested parties should either reply to the thread and/or participate in the 2009-02-16 IRC meeting in #fedora-meeting at 1800UTC. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue161#GCC:_Default_ISA_Flags_and_Glibc 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/LatestIssue#Fedora_11_Will_Support_i586_Instruction_Set 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue107#Crypto_Consolidation --- New Tool Measures Ease of Cross-compiling to Windows --- Richard W.M. Jones announced[1] the availability of CrossReport, a tool to evaluate the ease with which applications can be ported to Windows using the MinGW libraries. After some issue with platform dependency were reported by Michael Cronenworth were sorted[2] out it seemed[3] the tool is ready for use. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01055.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01074.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01076.html -- Translation -- This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee --- Additions to talk.fedoraproject.org --- Rafael Gomes has volunteered to update content on talk.fedoraproject.org[1] and would be creating the .pot file to make it available for translators. Additionally, Lucas Do Amaral has volunteered to add content regarding ekiga configuration[2] that would ensure error free display of the translated content, as had been earlier reported by Richard van der Luit [3]. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00026.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00040.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00029.html --- Further discussion on the Infrastructure Roadmap --- In continuation to the earlier discussion, Dimitris Glezos mentions that the important issue currently is the inconsistent uptime of the system due to the lack of administration resources [1]. He also mentions that adding Publican support to the Transifex instance would be possible with support from the Fedora Publican group. Additionally, he mentions that Transifex v0.5 to be released in March, would have support for Statistics based display as a start to the future goal of supporting all the features of Damned Lies. It is to be noted that FLP uses Damned Lies and Transifex for its Translation infrastructure. Domingo Becker added a wishlist[2] for the current system, that includes reservation of files for translation, timeout and notification system to the co-ordinator. In a separate thread, Francesco Tombolini voiced his opinion about the lack of the file locking feature and the downtime in the statistics page [3]. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00033.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00059.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00078.html --- Migration of Damned Lies --- Asgeir Frimannsson had announced[1] the imminent migration of the old Damned Lies instance to the new Django-based Damned Lies instance. Damned Lies is used by http://translate.fedoraproject.org for generating the translation statistics. --- New Members in FLP Daniel Yousefi (Persian) [2], Ahmad Razzaghi (Persian) [3], Daniele Catanesi (Italian) [4], Mads Bille Lundby (Danish) [5], and Zoltan Sumegi (Hungarian) [6] joined the Fedora Localization Project last week. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00057.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00051.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00076.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00043.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00014.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00011.html -- Infrastructure -- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-infrastructure-list http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure Contributing Writer: Huzaifa Sidhpurwala --- Calendaring system --- Discussion on this topic continues from last week. Adam Williamson said [1] that there are a couple of calendaring plugins which will allow for "days" will be allocated. Clint Savage mentioned that the point is that it should support caldev or something better[2] 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00094.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00095.html --- wordpress-mu install --- Mike McGrath asked who wanted to finalize our wordpress-mu install[1] Mike further said that it has got built and there is a ticket for it[2] 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00120.html 2. http://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/342 --- cgit to replace gitweb? --- Seth Vidal said[1]that he has setup cgit as a replacement for gitweb on hosted2 and it is available at hosted2.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ He said that he would like to replace gitweb as a web based git repo browser but that would mean that the urls from gitweb will not work any more. He said that he would like to get some feedback on this. Bill Nottingham suggested[2] that we may be able to able to do a rewrite rule. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00139.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-February/msg00143.html --- Artwork In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei --- Evolving Fedora 11 Artwork --- The development of the Fedora 11 artwork evolved on @fedora-art. M?ir??n Duffy posted[1] a new wallpaper mockup[2]: "It's more really an attempt at a nice backdrop, and maybe we can layer some of the trees and buildings we were talking about on top[.]" Charles Brej investigated[3] boot animations: "On the plymouth front, I am likely to be a bit busier at work this release than the F10 one, so I would really appreciate some of ideas as to what people would like during the system boot. The possibilities are pretty much limitless but it would be a good thing to conserve the CPU and keep the number and size of images included in the initrd to a minimum". 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00024.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11_greek-concept_mockup2_mo.png 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00025.html -- Security Week -- In this section, we highlight the security stories from the week in Fedora. Contributing Writer: Josh Bressers --- Is Open Source Software Secure? --- This week there was a story posted to Slashdot titled How To Argue That Open Source Software Is Secure?[1]. Quoting the post: ... saying that they were warned that they are dangerously insecure because they run open source operating systems or software, because 'anyone can read the code and hack you with ease.' This issue seems to keep coming up from time to time. This argument is of course silly and one of those "Prove it ... you can't? So it's true!" There is no way to prove that a piece of closed source software is more or less secure than a given piece of Open Source Software. If you can't see the source, you can't be certain that the vendor did or didn't fix issues. You need to unconditionally trust your vendor. If the source code is wide open for anyone to see, it keeps the vendor honest. You can't sweep issues under a transparent rug. You can try, and maybe hide a few piles of dust, but the really scary piles of dirt will stick out like sore thumbs. The issue at hand isn't is application A more secure than application B, but do you trust vendor A more than vendor B? 1. http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/11/007216 -- Security Advisories -- In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley --- Fedora 10 Security Advisories --- * xine-lib-1.1.16.2-1.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00359.html * squid-3.0.STABLE13-1.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00362.html * squidGuard-1.2.1-2.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00365.html * python-fedora-0.3.9-1.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00368.html * asterisk-1.6.0.5-2.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00416.html * moodle-1.9.4-1.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00657.html * fail2ban-0.8.3-18.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00721.html --- Fedora 9 Security Advisories --- * squidGuard-1.2.1-2.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00360.html * python-fedora-0.3.9-1.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00361.html * squid-3.0.STABLE13-1.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00363.html * lighttpd-1.4.20-6.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00364.html * xine-lib-1.1.16.2-1.fc9.1 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00367.html * moodle-1.9.4-1.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00496.html * asterisk-1.6.0.5-2.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00602.html * dahdi-tools-2.0.0-1.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00603.html * libresample-0.1.3-9.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00604.html * dnsmasq-2.45-1.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00670.html * fail2ban-0.8.3-18.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-February/msg00719.html ---- end FWN #163 ---- From kam at kamsalisbury.com Mon Feb 23 02:27:03 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (Kam Salisbury) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:27:03 -0500 Subject: Marketing Section Message-ID: <818ac3c70902221827u75e1070ek2b79e738fc90e10f@mail.gmail.com> All done... -- Kam Salisbury http://kamsalisbury.com GPG key: FAF1751E -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From adam at batkin.net Mon Feb 23 11:01:44 2009 From: adam at batkin.net (Adam Batkin) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:01:44 +0000 Subject: Planet Fedora beat complete Message-ID: <49A28218.5010509@batkin.net> Sorry it's late. -Adam Batkin From awilliam at redhat.com Mon Feb 23 16:53:08 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:53:08 -0800 Subject: qa beat was done for a while Message-ID: <1235407988.26254.86.camel@adam.local.net> The QA beat was actually done Friday, but I didn't mark it as such yesterday - sorry, it was my birthday, sort of slipped my mind :( -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 16:57:26 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:57:26 -0800 Subject: No Ambassador report this week Message-ID: <7a0d56080902230857k151b5003pfe2a37aa991793fb@mail.gmail.com> Hi, all -- Due to SCaLE (from which I returned home around 1 this morning and promptly fell asleep), I just realized that I missed deadline for the Ambassadors report for this week's FWN. I'll file a full report about SCaLE next week. Larry Cafiero -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 23 16:58:39 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:58:39 -0500 Subject: FWN #164 status Message-ID: <1235408319.2189.1301929799@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi all, I've done some cursory editing of the following beats and moved them all into the Issue164 page. I'm afraid I'm pressed for time again today so I hope someone else can take it from here. Announcements Planet QualityAssurance Developments Translations Artwork Virtualization Thank you everyone for this week's contributions. Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 23 16:59:22 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:59:22 -0500 Subject: No Ambassador report this week In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080902230857k151b5003pfe2a37aa991793fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080902230857k151b5003pfe2a37aa991793fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1235408362.2271.1301930207@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:57:26 -0800, "Larry Cafiero" said: > Hi, all -- > Due to SCaLE (from which I returned home around 1 this morning and > promptly > fell asleep), I just realized that I missed deadline for the Ambassadors > report for this week's FWN. > > I'll file a full report about SCaLE next week. Thanks Larry. Hope it was a good time! Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Feb 23 17:00:13 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:00:13 -0500 Subject: qa beat was done for a while In-Reply-To: <1235407988.26254.86.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1235407988.26254.86.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <1235408413.2798.1301930355@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:53:08 -0800, "Adam Williamson" said: > The QA beat was actually done Friday, but I didn't mark it as such > yesterday - sorry, it was my birthday, sort of slipped my mind :( Many happy returns! Thanks for the beat, I guessed from the history that you were probably done. Best, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Feb 23 18:44:27 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:44:27 -0500 Subject: FWN #164 status In-Reply-To: <1235408319.2189.1301929799@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1235408319.2189.1301929799@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <49A2EE8B.7000506@nd.edu> Okay, I am back from a morning full of meetings and now am able to work on this. I will get this out to fedora-announce and fedora-news in a few minutes. - pascal Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hi all, > > I've done some cursory editing of the following beats and moved them all > into the Issue164 page. I'm afraid I'm pressed for time again today so I > hope someone else can take it from here. > Announcements > Planet > QualityAssurance > Developments > Translations > Artwork > Virtualization > > Thank you everyone for this week's contributions. > > Best, From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Feb 23 18:59:17 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:59:17 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #164 Message-ID: <49A2F205.8050902@nd.edu> Fedora Weekly News Issue 164 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 164 for the week ending February 22nd, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue164 This week Announcements showcases Fedora Unity respins of Fedora 10, PlanetFedora selects some great blog entries on how to tag audio streams in PulseAudio and use func, QualityAssurance explains how to participate in test days, Developments covers the "Fedora 11 Mass Rebuild", Translations describes the new "L10n Infrastructure Team", Artwork covers some pretty "Evolving Fedora 11 Artwork" and Virtualization examines attempts to bridge the gap between libvirt and host network interface configuration. If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents Contributing Writer: Max Spevack --- General --- Your faithful correspondent announced[1] that this year's European FUDCon will be held in Berlin from June 26 - 28, overlapping partially with LinuxTag. Everyone is encouraged to read the full announcement and to register[2] for the event. Ben Williams, whose wife knits incredible scarves with Tux on them, announced[3] that a new set of Fedora 10 respins have been released by the Fedora Unity[4] team, containing all updates through February 10. Technical Jesse Keating reminded[5] the community that "due to a number of features, every package in Fedora 11 needs to be rebuilt." A wiki page[6] has been created that package maintainers should look to for more information. Peter Gordon announced[7] that an update to rb_libtorrent includes a soname bump that impacts other packages. --- Upcoming Events --- February 27 - March 1: FOSSMeet @ NITC[8] in Calicut, India. February 28: Fedora Round Table[9] in Karlsruhe, Germany. March 5-7: Computer Using Educators[10] in Palm Springs, CA. March 9: Florida Linux Show[11] in Jacksonville, FL. March 10-12: FOSE[12] in Washington, DC. March 13-15: Chemnitzer Linux Tage[13] in Chemnitz, Germany. --- FUDCon Berlin 2009 --- FUDCon Berlin[14] will be held from June 26 - 28 in Berlin, Germany. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00010.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_attendees 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-February/msg00009.html 4. http://fedoraunity.org 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00011.html 6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-February/msg00014.html 8. http://nitc.fossmeet.in/ 9. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FRT 10. http://www.cue.org/conference/ 11. http://floridalinuxshow.com/ 12. http://fose.com/ 13. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/CLT 14. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDConBerlin2009 -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin --- General --- Michael DeHaan discussed[1] various Linux system configuration applets and some ideas how to unify/integrate them. On an unrelated note, he also wrote[2] about HTML Slidey[3]: Slide Shows in XHTML. Gary Benson announced[4] that Zero has passed the Java SE 6 TCK, which means that OpenJDK in Fedora 10 for 32 and 64 bit PowerPC-based systems are now pretty much guaranteed to run anything you can throw at them. Daniel Walsh explained[5],[6] some SELinux history, voodoo and how to rebuild bits of the policy RPMs. Jeremy Katz reviewed[7] the book Don't Make Me Think by Steve Krug and how that applies to web usability. Red Hat Magazine[8] spotlighted[9] Func, which "makes it easy to write commands across large numbers of machines remotely and securely". Ankur Sinha wrote[10] an article about the history of Fedora and its four core values. Jef Spaleta wondered[11] how popular Git was, and found some interesting statistics from GitHub. He also discovered that apparently some[12] Canonical developers (the kernel folks) do used Git instead of Bzr. Roland Wolters announced[13] that RPM Fusion[14] ("a merge of several former Fedora 3rd party repositories providing licence/patent problematic packages") has entered the testing state. Ryan Lerch described[15] how to "Create a Lightbulb Icon that follows the tango! guidelines". Jack Aboutboul wrote[16] about what can be done to rejuvinate Fedora Marketing. Lennart Poettering explained[17] how to "tag" audio streams so that Pulse Audio can automatically manage sound policy ("For example, starting in 0.9.15, we will automatically pause your media player while a phone call is going on"). Seth Vidal described[18] how to adapt to the change to SHA256 checksums in yum/createrepo on EL5. 1. http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=862 2. http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=871 3. http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/#(1) 4. http://gbenson.net/?p=130 5. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/26428.html 6. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/26759.html 7. http://velohacker.com/fedora-notes/recent-reading-web-usability/ 8. http://magazine.redhat.com/ 9. http://magazine.redhat.com/2009/02/17/video-spotlight-on-func/ 10. http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/fedora-article-for-the-lugm-magazine/ 11. http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/34910.html 12. http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/35246.html 13. http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/rpm-fusion-enters-testing-state/ 14. http://rpmfusion.org/ 15. http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/create-a-lightbulb-icon-that-follows-the-tango-guidelines/ 16. http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/02/new-fedora-marketing.html 17. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/tagging-audio.html 18. http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/yum-createrepo-hashlib-rhel5centos5-and-sha256sums/ --- Events --- Francesco Crippa posted[1] some photos from FOSDEM 2009. 1. http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2009/02/16/fosdem-2009/ -- QualityAssurance -- In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1]. Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA --- Test Days --- This week's regular test day[1] was on 20 Second Startup[2]. Harald Hoyer was the developer present, and there was a great turnout of 20 people contributing test results. Further results are still welcome from anyone - a full set of instructions for running tests is available on the Wiki page. As a result of the testing, Harald has made several modifications already that will help to optimize boot times for Fedora 11. Next week's test day[3] will be on the Crash Catcher[4] feature planned for Fedora 11, which aims to make it easy for non-power uses to file useful reports when an application crashes. It will be held on Thursday (2009-02-26) in the #fedora-qa channel on Freenode IRC. Please drop by if you would like to help test this important new feature for Fedora 11 - no special equipment or expertise required! 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-02-19 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/20SecondStartup 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-02-26 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CrashCatcher --- Weekly meetings --- The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-02-18. The full log is available[2]. Will Woods gave a status report on the progress of the autoqa[3] project, which is working on creating automated test scripts to run whenever certain events happen. The group agreed to create an autoqa component in the fedora-qa trac instance, and create a new mailing list for autoqa reports to be sent to (this will not be a discussion list). Adam Williamson, James Laska and J?hann Gu?mundsson then initiated a discussion about creating a short-term solution for more organized reporting and collection of test results. Follow up a mailing list discussion, a system created by the Laptop.org[4] project, implemented as a Mediawiki plugin, was discussed. The group agreed that it seemed suited to the purpose, and James will propose it to the Infrastructure group, to see if they approve of the system, and whether they would prefer it to be added to the main Wiki or a special-purpose Wiki instance created just for this use. Finally, the group discussed the (then) upcoming test day, and agreed preparations were well in hand. The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[5] was held on 2009-02-17. The full log is available[6]. A broad initial goal for the Bugzappers project was agreed: to stabilize the number of bugs in NEW (i.e. un-triaged) status on the components previously agreed to be the most significant. Brennan Ashton's metric reporting tool will be used to track this. Brennan demonstrated the current state of his tool on a small set of test data, to general approval. The group voted on Adam Williamson's proposal to have a stock signature appended to comments by members of the Bugzappers team in Bugzilla, both to identify the Bugzappers and to increase the visibility of the project. This was approved, and Matej Cepl will implement it using Greasemonkey, adding it to the Greasemonkey script already used by most Bugzappers. The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-02-25 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-qa, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-02-24 at 1700 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings 2. http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/fedora-qa/fedora-qa-20090218.log.html 3. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=autoqa.git;a=summary 4. http://www.laptop.org 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings 6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Feb-17 --- Wiki re-organization --- Adam Williamson announced[1] that the first phase of the Wiki re-organization project was complete, with the new front page and 'how to join in' page for the QA Wiki space put into place. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00710.html --- Reporting bugs to Bugzilla --- Christopher Beland encouraged[1] testers to report bugs to Bugzilla as well as sending a mail about them to the test-list mailing list, and told the group that he had added some text to this effect to the QA group front page on the Wiki. Adam Williamson suggested[2] that the text might be better placed on the Wiki page about how properly to report bugs, rather than the QA group front page. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00837.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00844.html --- Semantic - test reporting plugin for Mediawiki --- James Laska sent in a report[1] on Semantic, the Laptop.org project's Mediawiki extension for managing test reports. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00756.html --- Encouraging Rawhide testing --- Mark McLoughlin made some suggestions[1] about how to improve the ongoing quality and consistency of Rawhide, in order to make it possible for more people to test it. He suggested that a definition should be made of what should be expected to work in Rawhide all the time - e.g. basic installation, booting, network and a few core applications - and a RawhideBlocker tracker bug be created on Bugzilla to track bugs in Rawhide which breaks any of these functions, with the intention that those bugs be addressed as a matter of high priority. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-February/msg00846.html -- Developments -- In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley --- Fedora 11 Mass Rebuild --- Some complications resulting from the inconsistent application of Fedora Packaging Guidelines were manifested when the mass rebuild discussed last week(FWN#163[1]) gained[2] a more concrete shape. Jesse Keating posted[3] a request that all maintainers would read the wiki page describing what needs to be done, especially the Maintainer Actions section. The rebuild should kick-off this Monday (2009-02-23). The wiki page describes the relatively narrow timeframe in which maintainers can attempt their own rebuilds and the way in which they can avoid the auto-rebuild. Concern was expressed by Tom Lane that the rebuilds were non-ordered. Jesse responded[4] that ordered builds were "[...] generally only are necessary when bumping sonames or otherwise bootstrapping items. Given that neither of those apply for this rebuild, effort spent trying to order and chain builds would be effort wasted." Ralf Corsepius challenged[5] this with the observation that pkgconfig BuildRequires are added automatically. Ralf suggested[6] the problem could be solved by "[...] checking which packages in current rawhide contain *.pc's but do not Provide nor Require pkgconfig(foo) and to rebuild them (in manually presorted order) in advance to the mass rebuild." Jon Masters appreciated[7] Jesse's work and worried that the rebuild might leave some statically built binaries using i386 instead of the promised i586 (see FWN#162[8]). Subsequent rebuilds were suggested as a means to work around the problem but Jesse preferred to identify specific problems and stated[9]: "I think the most I'd be willing to do would be a second build pass across the static packages. IMHO everything else should be left up to testing discovery and fixing the assumptions rather than hiding them." Another approach was suggested by Conrad Meyer based on using BuildRequires: *-static. When Ralf replied that this would not work because many packagers who had not used static subpackages Conrad pointed[10] to the guidelines. Nicolas Mailhot ruefully responded[11] that his experience with the fonts guidelines suggested that enforcement was necessary. Later discussion with Jakub Jel?nek about the presence of libc.a in glibc-devel suggested[12] that it will not be simple to apply this particular guideline to glibc without gcc -static ceasing to behave as expected. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue163#Mass_Rebuild_Coming_Soon 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01281.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01287.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01297.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01303.html 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01298.html 8. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue162#Fedora_11_Will_Support_i586_Instruction_Set 9. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01300.html 10. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01307.html 11. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01312.html 12. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01322.html --- Virtual Provides for Login Managers --- Following problems reported[1] with booting to runlevel 5 by default with the slim login-manager [Lumens] sugges:ted[2] that "[...] all packages containing a login manager include a special Provides: that we can query on." This would allow anaconda to determine whether a login-manager is installed without the difficulties of curating a list. Patrice Dumas, and others, provided[3] a good deal of feedback which seems to have led to a consensus that Provides: service(graphical-login) will be added to all packages which provide a login manager. An interesting sub-thread developed in which Colin Walters argued[4] that adding display managers (other than gdm and kdm should be strongly discouraged. This was met[5] with a good deal of disagreement from Tom Callaway and Seth Vidal. Colin explained[6] that the ramifications of changing such an integral part of the OS were complex and that while anyone should be free to add such software it should also be "[...] within the rights of the people working on the desktop to close any bugs filed by people using something else WONTFIX." Jesse Keating and Seth Vidal seemed[7] to agree that it should be possible for the Fedora Project do define specs to which login managers should conform. The thread blossomed into several discussions. One focused on the technical challenges occasioned[8] by the interaction of GDM, PAM, gnome-keyring, NetworkManager and ConsoleKit. Another saw[9] Toshio Kuratomi and Colin debating the strategic merits of making it more or less easy for interested parties to add their software to the Fedora Project ecosystem. 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485789 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01237.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01399.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01400.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01403.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01404.html 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01407.html 8. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01408.html 9. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01434.html --- Reducing the Number of (Dis)Charge Cycles for Laptop Batteries --- A certain amount of excitement resulted when Brad Longo asked[1]: "[...] if Fedora's power management tool has something built in so that when the battery reaches full charge, it will then discharge to lets say around 95% before beginning to charge again." The excitement arose from Brad's premise that "[...] leaving your laptop plugged in and charging with a full battery charge is harmful for the battery." Several responses rejected[2] the premise and pointed out that smart chargers implement trickle-mode charging. Matthew Garrett replied[3] with some specific information about how laptop battery charging happens at a firmware-controlled threshold level. Matthew speculated that Brad wanted "[...] presumably an interface to modify that threshold. This is device specific. The tp_smapi driver (which is not in the kernel for exceedingly dull reasons) allows this to be configured on Thinkpads. I don't believe that we know how to on any other systems." Hans Ulrich Niedermann had[4] an out-of-kernel module for tm_smapi which was configurable via /etc/sysconfig. Matthew Saltzman reported[5] some experiences with Windows setting the charge-threshold to 85% which is supposed to lengthen the battery life. Callum Lerwick referenced[6] a Wikipedia article which claimes that the "[...] optimal storage charge for a Li-Ion is %40. Also, heat causes Li-Ion batteries to degenerate much faster, so if you're really worried about preserving your battery, don't leave it in the laptop while it's running. Yet another argument for less power usage. Less power, less heat, longer battery service life. Fewer toxic batteries going in to the land fill if you like that angle." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01194.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01201.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01202.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01257.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01269.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01304.html --- config.guess Reporting Incorrect Configuration Name? --- Panu Matilainen asked[1] if it was a problem that the config.guess script from autotools no longer reported "redhat" as the manufacturer part of the configuration triplet. Panu referenced the documentation which suggests that "[...] the manufacturer part of the configuration name is the manufacturer of the CPU, not `OS vendor' so the former `redhat' was always incorrect. I don't know the history behind the decision to stomp `redhat' in there to begin with nor why it was then dropped later on. But having gotten used to it, people occasionally think the `unknown' (or `pc' for that matter) is a bug." While Jakub Jel?nek thought that providing the "redhat" string provided more information than "pc" or "unknown" Stepan Kaspal argued[2] strongly that reverting to maintaining such a patch was wrong. He suggested that either upstream should be convinced to change the use of "manufacturer" or that the %configure macro in the specfile could be used to explicitly avoid calling config.guess. From here on the thread became too technically detailed to summarize although it is relatively brief as of going to press. Those learned in the lore of autotools and cross-compilation will find much to gladden their hearts. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01338.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01355.html --- Build-time Trapping of Python Syntax Errors --- Tim Waugh initiated[1] verification that Python code can be parsed correctly: "[...] since we are already byte-compiling Python code at build time, it is no extra effort to verify that it can be parsed and fail if not." Reaction was[2] uniformly positive and when Panu Matilainen explained the simple errors which the byte compile would catch and suggested[3] a simple method of determining affected packages Florian Festi took up the challenge. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01563.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01574.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01584.html --- YUM Plans for Transition to Fedora 12 i686 Architecture --- When Paul Howarth asked[1]: "Now that Fedora 11 x86_32 is going to be based on i586 packages rather than i386 packages, does it follow that yum's $basearch will change from i386 to i586 and hence repository directory layouts changing too, or will it stay at i386?" a brief discussion between Seth Vidal and Josh Boyer started[2] with a discussion over whether repositories should be named after specific architectures. Seth Vidal differentiated between $arch and $basearch and explained[3]: "The whole reason I liked used $arch was that it meant when fedora stopped producing a 586 compatible tree, we didn't stop any one else from making a 586 compat tree and having it available like secondary arches are." Jesse Keating explained[4] that "i386" was a misnomer for the x86 offering. Josh Boyer was[5] unsure whether i586 would actually "go away" for Fedora 12. Dennis Gilmore was sure that it would and offered[6]: "Anyone who wants to continue i586 support post F11 i look forward to talking to about setting up i586 as a secondary arch." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01533.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01551.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01557.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01561.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01581.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-February/msg01587.html -- Translation -- This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee --- L10n Infrastructure Team --- In response to PaulFrields' call[1] for putting in place an L10n Infrastructure team, FLSCo announced a 4 member team to oversee the Fedora Localization Project Infrastructure operations[2]. The team includes DimitrisGlezos, DiegoZacarao, AsgeirFrimannsson and AnkitPatel. 1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00103.html 2. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00120.html --- Proposed L10n Infrastructure Plan for Fedora 11 --- Earlier, DimitrisGlezos had announced[1] a proposed roadmap for the L10n Infrastructure for Fedora 11 Translation period. This included using Transifex version 0.5 for generation and display of statistics in place of Damned Lies and Transifex version 0.3 for submissions. A test interface of this setup is currently available at: http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/tx/languages/ AsgeirFrimannsson suggested[2] an alternative approach to use the new Django supported version of Damned Lies for statistics and to also test its possible utilisation for translation submission. 1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00089.html 2. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00093.html --- Sponsor Role for Translation Team Coordinators --- FLSCo member NorikoMizumoto has requested[1] all the coordinators for the existing Translation Teams to inform about their FAS account names so that they could be upgraded to the role of "Sponsor". This would help the new members in their team to be approved faster. 1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00080.html --- New Members in FLP --- Peter Belko (Slovak)[1], Seyyed Mohsen Saeedi (Persian)[2], Jorge Izaac Zavaleta Escalante (Spanish)[3], and Victor Lopez (Spanish)[4] joined the Fedora Translation Project last week, 1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00106.html 2. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00109.html 3. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00111.html 4. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-February/msg00112.html -- Artwork -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei --- Evolving Fedora 11 Artwork --- Paul Frields expressed[1] concern on @fedora-art about the artwork process and the Fedora 11 schedule: "The F11 Beta freeze arrives on March 10th, and it would be good to have a background ready somewhat before that so there's time to tweak it before the freeze[.]" In reply[2] M?ir??n Duffy was confident: "I *think* we're going to be okay. I'll know by Monday whether or not we might have an issue." and called for a work session over the week-end "I am going to cram this weekend and try to iterate on what we've got. If anyone's with me, pop in #fedora-art this weekend :)" In the meantime [[Paolo Leoni and Thomas Kole experimented[3][4] with an alternate concept[5] based on world maps, navigation and ships. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00050.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00068.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00053.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-February/msg00064.html 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:F11-wallpaper-night-deepsky-mockup2.jpg -- Virtualization -- In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley --- Enterprise Management Tools List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list ---- New Options for Guest Cloning ---- Cole Robinson posted[1] a patch to enable virt-install to "build a guest around an existing disk image, skipping the OS install step." Cole also posted[2] a patch for virt-clone which allows for cloning from an XML file "rather than require the use of a guest defined on the current connection." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00051.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00050.html ---- Obtaining Guest IP Address from the Host ---- Thomas Mackell inquired[1] about a way to obtain the IP address of a guest that was easier than logging into it and running ifconfig. Cole Robinson pointed out image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-mem[2] which is a collection of utilities for interrogating KVM guests. Tools included are virt-uname, virt-dmesg, virt-ps, and virt-ifconfig. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-February/msg00036.html 2. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-mem/ --- Fedora Virtualization List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ---- Fedora Virt Status Update ---- Mark McLoughlin posted two[1] [2] very detailed weekly status reports since the last FWN Virtualization beat. Each one is full of details on the latest bugs and developments in the field. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00077.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00078.html ---- Qemu Packaging and noarch BIOS Firmware ---- The process [1] of building BIOS firmwares to support architecturally diverse guests on architecturally diverse hosts is very involved and repetitive. Glauber Costa learned[2] of changes coming to Koji which could simplify the process by allowing for bundled BIOS images to be built as "noarch" RPMs. These would be readily available to hosts on any architecture in the repository. Save for some "second class citizens"[3] in the repo. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00066.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00068.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-February/msg00072.html --- Fedora Xen List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list. ---- dom0 Kernel Experimentation Continues ---- Michael Young continued[1] to help others experiment with the nacent dom0 support in the image:Echo-package-16px.pngkernel and posted another RPM. There are still significant problems precluding its use for anything beyond testing. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-February/msg00031.html --- Libvirt List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ---- Support for Snapshot Volumes ---- Nick Moffitt asked[1] "Is there any interface to libvirtd that allows it to create volumes that are snapshots of existing volumes?" Daniel P. Berrange pointed[2] out this feature was recently added to image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt 0.6.0. "Basically when creating a storage volume, you just need to pass information about the backing storage volume. It'll thus create a volume which is a snapshot of this backing store." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00195.html 2. http://libvirt.org/formatstorage.html#StorageVolBacking ---- netcf Network Interface Configuration Library ---- David Lutterkort has been working on the disconnect between image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt and host network interface configuration for some time. (See FWN#159 "Configuring Host Interfaces RFC") [1] "After talking with Dan Williams, who is working in image:Echo-package-16px.pngNetworkManager", it became[2] clear to David that solving this problem "is also useful for NM and would help them with handling system-wide interface configuration." David then began work on netcf[3] Mark McLoughlin complimented[4] the work and updated the shared network interface feature page[5]. The goal of this feature in development is to "Enable guest virtual machines to share a physical network interface (NIC) with other guests and the host operating system. This allows guests to independently appear on the same network as the host machine." 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue159#Configuring_Host_Interfaces_RFC 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00228.html 3. http://git.et.redhat.com/?p=netcf.git;a=tree 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-February/msg00229.html 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Shared_Network_Interface -- End FWN #164 -- ---- Pascal Calarco Fedora Ambassador, Indiana USA http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Thu Feb 26 17:02:13 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:02:13 -0500 Subject: Absent for FWN#165 Message-ID: <1235667733.21759.1302561805@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi all, I'm afraid I will be absent from any production of FWN#165 (including the Development beat) as I'm quite sick. I'm nearly certain I'll be back in action for #166. Best wishes, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Feb 26 17:28:00 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:28:00 -0800 Subject: Absent for FWN#165 In-Reply-To: <1235667733.21759.1302561805@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1235667733.21759.1302561805@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1235669280.4829.128.camel@adam.local.net> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 12:02 -0500, Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm afraid I will be absent from any production of FWN#165 (including > the Development beat) as I'm quite sick. I'm nearly certain I'll be back > in action for #166. I read -devel so I could try and do a development beat, although I doubt I could come up to Oisin's standards! If no-one else more experienced wants to do it, I'll give it a shot, but I defer to anyone else first. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Feb 26 17:43:58 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:43:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: Absent for FWN#165 In-Reply-To: <1235669280.4829.128.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1235667733.21759.1302561805@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1235669280.4829.128.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: > I read -devel so I could try and do a development beat, although I > doubt I could come up to Oisin's standards! If no-one else more > experienced wants to do it, I'll give it a shot, but I defer to anyone > else first. Here's the beat: "A bunch of people did stuff. Even more people argued about stuff. Rawhide is in comparatively good shape, and we're got a boatload of features that makes F11 incredibly exciting. On Friday at 6pm, it was decided that we'd move the default X session to tty9 just to mess with people." From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Feb 26 17:49:05 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:49:05 -0800 Subject: Absent for FWN#165 In-Reply-To: References: <1235667733.21759.1302561805@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1235669280.4829.128.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <1235670545.4829.129.camel@adam.local.net> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 18:43 +0100, Max Spevack wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I read -devel so I could try and do a development beat, although I > > doubt I could come up to Oisin's standards! If no-one else more > > experienced wants to do it, I'll give it a shot, but I defer to anyone > > else first. > > Here's the beat: > > "A bunch of people did stuff. Even more people argued about stuff. > Rawhide is in comparatively good shape, and we're got a boatload of > features that makes F11 incredibly exciting. On Friday at 6pm, it was > decided that we'd move the default X session to tty9 just to mess with > people." I can see I'm in the presence of a master! I think you forgot the bit where we all argued over something that we'd already argued about two years ago, repeating all the same arguments again. I think it's a tradition. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Feb 27 07:57:40 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:57:40 +0200 Subject: Absent for FWN#165 In-Reply-To: <1235670545.4829.129.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1235667733.21759.1302561805@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1235669280.4829.128.camel@adam.local.net> <1235670545.4829.129.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <49A79CF4.9010301@nicubunu.ro> Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 18:43 +0100, Max Spevack wrote: >> Here's the beat: >> >> "A bunch of people did stuff. Even more people argued about stuff. >> Rawhide is in comparatively good shape, and we're got a boatload of >> features that makes F11 incredibly exciting. On Friday at 6pm, it was >> decided that we'd move the default X session to tty9 just to mess with >> people." > > I can see I'm in the presence of a master! > > I think you forgot the bit where we all argued over something that we'd > already argued about two years ago, repeating all the same arguments > again. I think it's a tradition. No, the frequency of the traditional huge flames about multimedia support and LTS is 6 months, not 2 years. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ From stickster at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 16:57:28 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:57:28 -0500 Subject: Absent for FWN#165 In-Reply-To: <49A79CF4.9010301@nicubunu.ro> References: <1235667733.21759.1302561805@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1235669280.4829.128.camel@adam.local.net> <1235670545.4829.129.camel@adam.local.net> <49A79CF4.9010301@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090227165728.GH9867@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:57:40AM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 18:43 +0100, Max Spevack wrote: >>> Here's the beat: >>> >>> "A bunch of people did stuff. Even more people argued about stuff. >>> Rawhide is in comparatively good shape, and we're got a boatload of >>> features that makes F11 incredibly exciting. On Friday at 6pm, it was >>> decided that we'd move the default X session to tty9 just to mess with >>> people." >> >> I can see I'm in the presence of a master! >> >> I think you forgot the bit where we all argued over something that we'd >> already argued about two years ago, repeating all the same arguments >> again. I think it's a tradition. > > No, the frequency of the traditional huge flames about multimedia support > and LTS is 6 months, not 2 years. That's part of our commitment to rapid advancement of Flames Of Spectacular Size (FOSS). -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: