From sstarr at platform.com Thu Jul 17 20:18:42 2008 From: sstarr at platform.com (Shawn Starr) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:18:42 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-nightlife-list] Some initial discussions of a Fedora HPC SIG Message-ID: (This was also sent to fedora-devel-list) Hello everyone, There is talk of creating a HPC SIG that will focus on making Fedora HPC/Grid/Cluster ready. It would be great to find out who in Fedora is interested in beginning some discussions. Here's some of my own questions to add to the mix: - How can we make Anaconda support different interconnects? - How do we handle HPC/Grid needs which differ from traditional systems? Using puppet, others? * Should we provide 'sane' defaults needed within a HPC environment out of the box? * Addon packages to modify configurations of other packages? - Which job submission/batch schedulers? more choice is better. - Full OFED integration (Doug Ledford has been working on this) - Provisioning: Multiple methods for provisioning? * Cobbler, Spacewalk, other open source mechanisms? - Packaging of HPC applications/libs * Open MPI, MPICH1/MPICH2?, MVAPICH1/MVAPICH2? * Directory structure - FHS * Using environment-modules or alternatives to allow users to switch between different MPIs etc. - Package Optimization * A lot of people tend to want highly optimized packages such as ATLAS and usually will recompile them against their new processors. Do we just settle on defaults, can't satisfy all people. There are many more questions and getting some initial discussions going will be beneficial to Fedora. -- Shawn Starr Software Developer, Open Source Grid Development Center (OSGDC) Platform Computing 3760 14th Avenue Markham, ON L3R3T7 direct: 905.948.4229 http://www.platform.com From bche at redhat.com Fri Jul 18 13:51:31 2008 From: bche at redhat.com (Bryan Che) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:51:31 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-nightlife-list] Some initial discussions of a Fedora HPC SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48809FE3.8070600@redhat.com> Hi Shawn, I'd be interested. Bryan Shawn Starr wrote: > (This was also sent to fedora-devel-list) > > Hello everyone, > > There is talk of creating a HPC SIG that will focus on making Fedora HPC/Grid/Cluster ready. It would be great to find out who in Fedora is interested in beginning some discussions. > > Here's some of my own questions to add to the mix: > > - How can we make Anaconda support different interconnects? > > - How do we handle HPC/Grid needs which differ from traditional systems? Using puppet, others? > * Should we provide 'sane' defaults needed within a HPC environment out of the box? > * Addon packages to modify configurations of other packages? > > - Which job submission/batch schedulers? more choice is better. > > - Full OFED integration (Doug Ledford has been working on this) > > - Provisioning: Multiple methods for provisioning? > * Cobbler, Spacewalk, other open source mechanisms? > > - Packaging of HPC applications/libs > * Open MPI, MPICH1/MPICH2?, MVAPICH1/MVAPICH2? > * Directory structure - FHS > * Using environment-modules or alternatives to allow users to switch between different MPIs etc. > > - Package Optimization > * A lot of people tend to want highly optimized packages such as ATLAS and usually will recompile them against their > new processors. Do we just settle on defaults, can't satisfy all people. > > There are many more questions and getting some initial discussions going will be beneficial to Fedora. > > -- > Shawn Starr > Software Developer, Open Source Grid Development Center (OSGDC) > Platform Computing > 3760 14th Avenue > Markham, ON L3R3T7 > direct: 905.948.4229 > http://www.platform.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-nightlife-list mailing list > Fedora-nightlife-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-nightlife-list -- Bryan Che Red Hat, Inc. 314 Littleton Rd Westford, MA 01886 978-392-3107 bche at redhat.com From sstarr at platform.com Fri Jul 18 15:05:45 2008 From: sstarr at platform.com (Shawn Starr) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:05:45 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-nightlife-list] RE: Some initial discussions of a Fedora HPC SIG Message-ID: Sounds good, That makes four people so far. If other people are interested, let's figure out the best way to keep the community informed. We can setup a Fedora meeting on IRC, but there's no formal SIG yet. Thanks, Shawn. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Che > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:52 AM > To: fedora-nightlife-list; Shawn Starr > Subject: Re: [Fedora-nightlife-list] Some initial discussions of a > Fedora HPC SIG > > > Hi Shawn, I'd be interested. > > Bryan > > Shawn Starr wrote: > > (This was also sent to fedora-devel-list) > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > There is talk of creating a HPC SIG that will focus on > making Fedora HPC/Grid/Cluster ready. It would be great to > find out who in Fedora is interested in beginning some discussions. > > > > Here's some of my own questions to add to the mix: > > > > - How can we make Anaconda support different interconnects? > > > > - How do we handle HPC/Grid needs which differ from > traditional systems? Using puppet, others? > > * Should we provide 'sane' defaults needed within a HPC > environment out of the box? > > * Addon packages to modify configurations of other packages? > > > > - Which job submission/batch schedulers? more choice is better. > > > > - Full OFED integration (Doug Ledford has been working on this) > > > > - Provisioning: Multiple methods for provisioning? > > * Cobbler, Spacewalk, other open source mechanisms? > > > > - Packaging of HPC applications/libs > > * Open MPI, MPICH1/MPICH2?, MVAPICH1/MVAPICH2? > > * Directory structure - FHS > > * Using environment-modules or alternatives to allow > users to switch between different MPIs etc. > > > > - Package Optimization > > * A lot of people tend to want highly optimized packages > such as ATLAS and usually will recompile them against their > > new processors. Do we just settle on defaults, can't > satisfy all people. > > > > There are many more questions and getting some initial > discussions going will be beneficial to Fedora. > > > > -- > > Shawn Starr > > Software Developer, Open Source Grid Development Center (OSGDC) > > Platform Computing > > 3760 14th Avenue > > Markham, ON L3R3T7 > > direct: 905.948.4229 > > http://www.platform.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-nightlife-list mailing list > > Fedora-nightlife-list > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-nightlife-list > > -- > Bryan Che > Red Hat, Inc. > 314 Littleton Rd > Westford, MA 01886 > 978-392-3107 > bche at redhat d0t com >