From michael at laptop.org Thu Oct 1 04:26:38 2009 From: michael at laptop.org (Michael Stone) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 00:26:38 -0400 Subject: sugar-toolkit dep & ACLs annoyance Message-ID: <20091001042637.GA6869@heat> Dear fedora-olpc, I just wanted to mention to you that I enjoyed trying out your work this evening in an F12 chroot. While testing, I encountered some bugs, one of which I filed for you at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526618 Pursuant to that issue, I also prepared the following patch, which I attempted to apply to fedora-cvs on your behalf. Unfortunately, I was stymied due to lack of appropriate ACLs, ending my involvement for the evening. Regards, Michael P.S. - Incidentally, thanks to whoever is responsible for the nice scripts in fedora-packager. They are a great improvement over what was available the last time we worked together. [sugar at heat F-12]$ cvs diff -u cvs diff: Diffing . Index: sugar-toolkit.spec =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/sugar-toolkit/F-12/sugar-toolkit.spec,v retrieving revision 1.56 diff -u -r1.56 sugar-toolkit.spec --- sugar-toolkit.spec 27 Sep 2009 17:19:44 -0000 1.56 +++ sugar-toolkit.spec 1 Oct 2009 04:08:26 -0000 @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ Summary: Sugar toolkit Name: sugar-toolkit Version: 0.86.0 -Release: 1%{?dist} +Release: 2%{?dist} #Release: 2.%{alphatag}%{?dist} URL: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar # git clone git://dev.laptop.org/sugar @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ Requires: sugar-presence-service Requires: python-simplejson Requires: python-json +Requires: unzip %description Sugar is the core of the OLPC Human Interface. The toolkit provides @@ -68,6 +69,9 @@ %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/macros.sugar %changelog +* Thu Oct 01 2009 Michael Stone - 0.86.0-2 +- bz#526618: Add dependency on unzip + * Sun Sep 27 2009 Sebastian Dziallas - 0.86.0-1 - New upstream release From simon at schampijer.de Thu Oct 1 08:07:23 2009 From: simon at schampijer.de (Simon Schampijer) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:07:23 +0200 Subject: Some activities missed the F12 freeze Message-ID: <4AC4633B.3020800@schampijer.de> Hi, ideally etoys-4.0.2319 should be in F-12, too as it was released as part of the 0.86 cycle. As we are in freeze at least as an update, I guess. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=7776 Latest TurtleArt, Browse and Terminal releases missed the boat as well. I will file exceptions for them. Can someone else take care of etoys? Thanks, Simon From pbrobinson at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 08:31:19 2009 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:31:19 +0100 Subject: Some activities missed the F12 freeze In-Reply-To: <4AC4633B.3020800@schampijer.de> References: <4AC4633B.3020800@schampijer.de> Message-ID: <5256d0b0910010131g132e4bbekbecbe32a8bde5833@mail.gmail.com> Hi Simon, > ideally etoys-4.0.2319 should be in F-12, too as it was released as part of > the 0.86 cycle. As we are in freeze at least as an update, I guess. > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=7776 > > Latest TurtleArt, Browse and Terminal releases missed the boat as well. I > will file exceptions for them. Can someone else take care of etoys? If you get them all built I'll quite happily chase rel-eng to get them tagged in to the release. We can just do it as one ticket. There looks to be a etoys built in the f13 branch by Gavin but not in the f12 branch. Peter From smparrish at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 11:38:01 2009 From: smparrish at gmail.com (Steven M. Parrish) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:38:01 -0400 Subject: Some activities missed the F12 freeze In-Reply-To: <4AC4633B.3020800@schampijer.de> References: <4AC4633B.3020800@schampijer.de> Message-ID: <200910010738.02609.smparrish@gmail.com> > Hi, > > ideally etoys-4.0.2319 should be in F-12, too as it was released as part > of the 0.86 cycle. As we are in freeze at least as an update, I guess. > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=7776 > > Latest TurtleArt, Browse and Terminal releases missed the boat as well. > I will file exceptions for them. Can someone else take care of etoys? > > Thanks, > Simon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-olpc-list mailing list > Fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list > Unless someone has already beat me to it I will take care of etoys. Steven ===================================================== Steven M. Parrish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar From gavin at redhat.com Thu Oct 1 13:33:56 2009 From: gavin at redhat.com (Gavin Romig-Koch) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:33:56 -0400 Subject: Some activities missed the F12 freeze In-Reply-To: <200910010738.02609.smparrish@gmail.com> References: <4AC4633B.3020800@schampijer.de> <200910010738.02609.smparrish@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AC4AFC4.9090600@redhat.com> On 10/01/2009 07:38 AM, Steven M. Parrish wrote: > > Unless someone has already beat me to it I will take care of etoys. > > Thank you Steven. Peter if you can still get it into F-12 beta, that would be cool. -gavin... From martin at martindengler.com Thu Oct 1 20:40:18 2009 From: martin at martindengler.com (Martin Dengler) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:40:18 +0100 Subject: Know anything about smolt? Message-ID: <20091001204017.GZ11568@ops-13.xades.com> Know anything about smolt? We could use some help / advice on how best to use it. My SoaS spins, like Sebastian's more recent ones, have smolt installed and send a smolt report every time a network interface comes up with a valid default route. I spent a few minutes toying with the small NetworkManager dispatcher script[1] that implements this and then forgot about it. Anyone care to do better (wouldn't take much) script-wise / approach-wise? Anyone know how these things work and can see if any data have been collected (I'm sure a few XOs of mine have submitted reports)? Thanks, Martin 1. http://cgit.sugarlabs.org/soas/mainline/tree/soas-sugar.ks#n103 Looks like I didn't get around to committing that "only try to send if there's a default route" part yet. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From martin at martindengler.com Mon Oct 5 09:30:41 2009 From: martin at martindengler.com (Martin Dengler) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:30:41 +0100 Subject: booting soas71xo.4gremovable.img.tar.lzma In-Reply-To: <2115d1c80910041740r3d1cea2rb1c0c87fbd915b77@mail.gmail.com> References: <2115d1c80910041708uc9f35edw79491f4ce7ced01e@mail.gmail.com> <2115d1c80910041740r3d1cea2rb1c0c87fbd915b77@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091005093041.GM11568@ops-13.xades.com> Hi Dan, Hope you don't mind me forwarding this to the fedora-olpc list, because I think other people may be having the same problem. I'll have a look at submitting a patch upstream or working around the problem. Martin On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 05:40:28PM -0700, Dan Krejsa wrote: > Hmm, > > Maybe since in the initrd image sh is a symlink to dash (not bash), the problem > is a difference between dash and bash. > > http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/dash/ > > Perhaps 10olpc-boot-premount.sh should avoid bashisms like [[ ? > > - Dan > > On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Dan Krejsa wrote: > > Hi Martin, > > > > I'm trying to boot my g1g1 XO using a USB flash drive created > > according to the instructions at > > > > ?http://people.sugarlabs.org/~mtd/soas/README.txt > > > > using the soas71xo.4gremovable.img.tar.lzma filesystem. > > > > The boot is failing to mount the root fs, with messages ending with > > stuff like the following (copied manually & skipping the timestamps): > > > > VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=OLPCRoot" or unknown-block(0,0) > > Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions: > > 1f00 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1048576 mtdblock0 driver: CAF|-e NAND > > Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) > > > > I tried adding a 'root=/dev/sda1' argument to the boot line in the openboot > > and setting the 'ramdisk' environment variable to > > > > ? u:\boot\initrd-2.6.30_xo1-20090808.1740.1.olpc.a817f86.img > > > > before booting. ?That got somewhat further, but still failed as discussed > > below. > > > > I found that if I added a symlink /boot/initrd.img to the file > > initrd-2.6.30_xo1-20090808.1740.1.olpc.a817f86.img in the same > > directory, I didn't need to intervene at the openboot forth prompt. > > The ramdisk was then loaded and /dev/sda was mounted automatically. > > > > However, there were still errors during boot. ?First, there were some messages > > > > FATAL: Module scsi_wait_scan not found. > > > > that repeated several times before the root file system was apparently > > successfully > > mounted. > > > > Immediately after the 'Hello, (children of the) world!' > > > > message, there were the following errors: > > > > [: 48: 1: unexpected operator > > /pre-mount/10olpc-boot-premount.sh: 71: -z: not found > > [: 72: 0: unexpected operator > > [: 85: unexpected operator > > dracut: Mounted root filesystem /dev/sda1 > > dracut: Warning: Machine in enforcing mode and cannot execute load_policy. > > dracut: Warning: To disable selinux, add selinux=0 to the kernel command line > > dracut Warning: Not continuing > > > > I figure I could add 'selinux=0' to the command line set up in > > /boot/olpc.fth (?) > > but I'm not sure about the earlier things that look like script errors earlier. > > I gather that /pre-mount/10olpc-boot-premount.sh is in the initrd image. > > I'm not an expert bash scripter and am not sure what's going on there. > > Any ideas? > > > > - Dan > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Daniel From martin at martindengler.com Mon Oct 5 11:13:51 2009 From: martin at martindengler.com (Martin Dengler) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:13:51 +0100 Subject: booting soas71xo.4gremovable.img.tar.lzma In-Reply-To: <818423da0910050403h5e8e521eu13f0323cb6f99dc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <2115d1c80910041708uc9f35edw79491f4ce7ced01e@mail.gmail.com> <2115d1c80910041740r3d1cea2rb1c0c87fbd915b77@mail.gmail.com> <20091005093041.GM11568@ops-13.xades.com> <818423da0910050403h5e8e521eu13f0323cb6f99dc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091005111351.GS11568@ops-13.xades.com> On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 04:48:29PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/10/5 Martin Dengler : > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > Hope you don't mind me forwarding this to the fedora-olpc list, > > because I think other people may be having the same problem. > > > > I'll have a look at submitting a patch upstream or working around the > > problem. > > This is a known bug (and on trac) but it doesn't stop boot. The > bootup failure is elsewhere. Thanks for the info...good to know. Saves a few > 45 minute rebuilds at best :). > Daniel Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dfarning at sugarlabs.org Mon Oct 5 15:28:11 2009 From: dfarning at sugarlabs.org (David Farning) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:28:11 -0500 Subject: Steven M. Parrish's build method failing. Message-ID: Hi, I am starting the XO Operating System SIG by documenting the various current efforts to build fedora base systems for the XO. This weekend I documented and tested how to automate the build system for Steven M. Parrish's work. The documentation is at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Xoos/Resources . Can anyone help me with the following error? david [dfarning at localhost output]$ make ../Makefile -f name.img make: Nothing to be done for `../Makefile'. [dfarning at localhost output]$ ../Makefile -f name.img ../Makefile: line 1: fg: no job control ../Makefile: line 3: fg: no job control [sudo] password for dfarning: ... snip .... device-mapper: remove ioctl failed: Device or resource busy Command failed /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/errors.py:45: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 return unicode(self.message) Error creating Live CD : Could not remove snapshot device ../Makefile: line 5: fg: no job control [sudo] password for dfarning: ... snip ... readlink: invalid option -- '.' Try `readlink --help' for more information. readlink: invalid option -- '.' Try `readlink --help' for more information. readlink: invalid option -- '.' Try `readlink --help' for more information. readlink: invalid option -- '.' Try `readlink --help' for more information. /home/dfarning/fedora-xo/output/$^: No such file or directory Cleaning up to exit... umount: /media/isotmp.xAg4fh: not mounted ../livecd-iso-to-xo.sh: line 7: [: missing `]' ../Makefile: line 7: fg: no job control /usr/bin/livecd-iso-to-disk [--format] [--reset-mbr] [--noverify] [--overlay-size-mb ] [--home-size-mb ] [--unencrypted-home] [--skipcopy] dd: unrecognized operand `name.img' Try `dd --help' for more information. ../Makefile: line 10: fg: no job control gzip: $^: No such file or directory ../Makefile: line 13: .PRECIOUS:: command not found [dfarning at localhost output]$ From dfarning at sugarlabs.org Mon Oct 5 15:35:25 2009 From: dfarning at sugarlabs.org (David Farning) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:35:25 -0500 Subject: Steven M. Parrish's build method failing. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Arggg. I looked at this for a couple hours yesterday without noticing I had the make command wrong. Now it is fixed. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:28 AM, David Farning wrote: > Hi, > > I am starting the XO Operating System SIG by documenting the various > current efforts to build fedora base systems for the XO. ?This weekend > I documented and tested how to automate the build system for ?Steven > M. Parrish's work. ?The documentation is at > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Xoos/Resources . > > Can anyone help me with the following error? > > david > > [dfarning at localhost output]$ make ../Makefile -f name.img > make: Nothing to be done for `../Makefile'. > > [dfarning at localhost output]$ ../Makefile -f name.img > ../Makefile: line 1: fg: no job control > ../Makefile: line 3: fg: no job control > [sudo] password for dfarning: > > ... > snip > .... > > device-mapper: remove ioctl failed: Device or resource busy > Command failed > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/errors.py:45: > DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of > Python 2.6 > ?return unicode(self.message) > Error creating Live CD : Could not remove snapshot device > ../Makefile: line 5: fg: no job control > [sudo] password for dfarning: > > > ... > snip > ... > > readlink: invalid option -- '.' > Try `readlink --help' for more information. > readlink: invalid option -- '.' > Try `readlink --help' for more information. > readlink: invalid option -- '.' > Try `readlink --help' for more information. > readlink: invalid option -- '.' > Try `readlink --help' for more information. > /home/dfarning/fedora-xo/output/$^: No such file or directory > Cleaning up to exit... > umount: /media/isotmp.xAg4fh: not mounted > ../livecd-iso-to-xo.sh: line 7: [: missing `]' > ../Makefile: line 7: fg: no job control > /usr/bin/livecd-iso-to-disk [--format] [--reset-mbr] [--noverify] > [--overlay-size-mb ] [--home-size-mb ] > [--unencrypted-home] [--skipcopy] > dd: unrecognized operand `name.img' > Try `dd --help' for more information. > ../Makefile: line 10: fg: no job control > gzip: $^: No such file or directory > ../Makefile: line 13: .PRECIOUS:: command not found > [dfarning at localhost output]$ > From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 09:48:23 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:48:23 +0200 Subject: XS - rebase on F-11, notes and RHF Message-ID: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> So the F-9-based XS-0.6 is closed (at long last), and the next step is to prep 0.7 based on F-11. Here is a rundown of the packaging / installer work I think needs to be done: =Rebuild packages, spec fixups= Jerry Vonau has done a lot of the exploratory work, so mostly done I think. Thanks! Still, might hit issues and cry for help... =Switch from metapackage to 'groups'= RFH: The repos I build have no 'groups' defined, and we need to control livecdcreator/pungi and anaconda so that only the group (and its deps) is included. =Polish on the Anaconda / Installer= - With the F11 buildsys tools maybe we can now replace fedora-logos properly. - Anaconda on F11 seems to install from a bootable USB with less crashes -- will want to streamline the process. =Improve xs-config= There are several ways in which xs-config can be a lot less intrusive, for example using alternative init scripts (as we are doing with 'pgsql-xs' vs 'postgresql'). =FAQ= Why F11? Because the XS needs to be stable, and doesn't need bleeding edge, so targetting the "LTS" F11->RHEL6->CentOS path makes sense. The XS team would like to spend more time working on "tools on top" and less time tracking Fedora and regression-testing :-) Why are these packages out of sync with Fedora (missing F-12, etc)? The XS packages are still in flux and intrusive. And low-quality/risky from a Fedora PoV. As things stabilize in the future it might make sense to request inclusion. cheers, m -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From pbrobinson at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 10:16:47 2009 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:16:47 +0100 Subject: XS - rebase on F-11, notes and RHF In-Reply-To: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> References: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5256d0b0910080316r447bc268g7490927f19bbb74d@mail.gmail.com> Hi Martin, 0.6 looks like a great release. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > So the F-9-based XS-0.6 is closed (at long last), and the next step is > to prep 0.7 based on F-11. Here is a rundown of the packaging / > installer work I think needs to be done: > > =Rebuild packages, spec fixups= > > Jerry Vonau has done a lot of the exploratory work, so mostly done I > think. Thanks! Still, might hit issues and cry for help... > > =Switch from metapackage to 'groups'= > > RFH: The repos I build have no 'groups' defined, and we need to > control livecdcreator/pungi and anaconda so that only the group (and > its deps) is included. > > =Polish on the Anaconda / Installer= > > ?- With the F11 buildsys tools maybe we can now replace fedora-logos properly. > > ?- Anaconda on F11 seems to install from a bootable USB with less > crashes -- will want to streamline the process. > > =Improve xs-config= > > There are several ways in which xs-config can be a lot less intrusive, > for example using alternative init scripts (as we are doing with > 'pgsql-xs' vs 'postgresql'). > > =FAQ= > > Why F11? Because the XS needs to be stable, and doesn't need bleeding > edge, so targetting the "LTS" F11->RHEL6->CentOS path makes sense. The > XS team would like to spend more time working on "tools on top" and > less time tracking Fedora and regression-testing :-) > > Why are these packages out of sync with Fedora (missing F-12, etc)? > The XS packages are still in flux and intrusive. And low-quality/risky > from a Fedora PoV. As things stabilize in the future it might make > sense to request inclusion. I would encourage you to look at using F-12 rather than F-11. F-12 will be more likely to be the base for RHEL-6 than F-11 from what I've heard so the move to CentOS 6 would be easier from that POV. F-12 is pretty stable now, is feature complete and will be in beta in a week or so and it will give you a 13 months of support from release rather than the 6-7 that F-11 currently have rather than having something based on a Fedora that's already EOL. Either way let me know how i can help out. Peter From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 10:33:01 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:33:01 +0200 Subject: XS - rebase on F-11, notes and RHF In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0910080316r447bc268g7490927f19bbb74d@mail.gmail.com> References: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> <5256d0b0910080316r447bc268g7490927f19bbb74d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46a038f90910080333i196d4858qeeed96e4251b7294@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > 0.6 looks like a great release. Thanks! 99.999998% of the code is Fedora so it's gotta be very good :-) > I would encourage you to look at using F-12 rather than F-11. F-12 > will be more likely to be the base for RHEL-6 than F-11 from what I've Hmmm! I understood that F-11 had a longer release cycle (with the breaking and all, but also a slightly longer stabilization window) at the expense of F-12. The only reference I find of Fedora-12 perhaps becoming RHEL 6 is this http://lwn.net/Articles/348141/ cheers, m -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 10:55:44 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:55:44 +0200 Subject: XS - rebase on F-11, notes and RHF In-Reply-To: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> References: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46a038f90910080355m3bdd364fkb206b27b728fc056@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > So the F-9-based XS-0.6 is closed (at long last), and the next step is In the 0.6 set of packages there are 2 that stand out as generic packages that Fedorans may find interesting. Be warned though - - The packaging is I think reasonably good but is probably not to Fedora standards. - They are orphaned upstream. Carrying them in the Fedora repositories (and resulting increased exposure) may re-kindle interest in them... or just place a bigger burden on packagers. The packages are: - usbmount Homepage: http://usbmount.alioth.debian.org/ Git repo http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/usbmount.git/ Full thread on why https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2008-August/msg00004.html - pam_sotp - Rahul Sundaram helped us with an initial package (thanks!) http://www.cavecanen.org/cs/projects/pam_sotp/doc/0.3.3/manual.html Spec http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/packages/pam_sotp.spec See also http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-October/msg02898.html cheers, m -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 8 11:07:49 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:07:49 +0200 Subject: XS - rebase on F-11, notes and RHF In-Reply-To: <46a038f90910080333i196d4858qeeed96e4251b7294@mail.gmail.com> References: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> <5256d0b0910080316r447bc268g7490927f19bbb74d@mail.gmail.com> <46a038f90910080333i196d4858qeeed96e4251b7294@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d319b780910080407o6543399ar126c475b7517d0ce@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:33, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> 0.6 looks like a great release. > > Thanks! 99.999998% of the code is Fedora so it's gotta be very good :-) > >> I would encourage you to look at using F-12 rather than F-11. F-12 >> will be more likely to be the base for RHEL-6 than F-11 from what I've > > Hmmm! I understood that F-11 had a longer release cycle (with the > breaking and all, but also a slightly longer stabilization window) at > the expense of F-12. I think I told you that at the SugarCamp in Paris, because at this time, that's what the rumours were about: http://lwn.net/Articles/306807/ (that's the link I had given you at that time, specifically saying that it was only a guess) The problem is that we (Fedora) have absolutely no way to know for sure what the next RHEL will be based on: that's Red Hat's business. So all we can do is try to guess, but depending on their own constraints, business, clients, etc... the rumours often change as time goes :) If you want to know that for sure, you should ask Red Hat about it. ;) > The only reference I find of Fedora-12 perhaps becoming RHEL 6 is this > http://lwn.net/Articles/348141/ Actually, I read that more as ? RHEL 6 will be based on F13 or a future version of Fedora ?. But like Spot says, we can't draw any conclusion. Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 11:26:10 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:26:10 +0200 Subject: XS - rebase on F-11, notes and RHF In-Reply-To: <2d319b780910080407o6543399ar126c475b7517d0ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> <5256d0b0910080316r447bc268g7490927f19bbb74d@mail.gmail.com> <46a038f90910080333i196d4858qeeed96e4251b7294@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780910080407o6543399ar126c475b7517d0ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46a038f90910080426v5110d486sc21a8c919a46a6cd@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > I think I told you that at the SugarCamp in Paris You weren't the only one :-) and in general it seemed to make sense. Ah, well. We're programmers, not mindreaders. After a bit of thought, initially at least, 0.7 will be based on F11. It is very hard for me to get my own code stable while the whole distro is in flux. Maybe there is a good opportunity for a F-12 rebase before 0.7. cheers, m -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From pbrobinson at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 11:31:32 2009 From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:31:32 +0100 Subject: XS - rebase on F-11, notes and RHF In-Reply-To: <46a038f90910080426v5110d486sc21a8c919a46a6cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> <5256d0b0910080316r447bc268g7490927f19bbb74d@mail.gmail.com> <46a038f90910080333i196d4858qeeed96e4251b7294@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780910080407o6543399ar126c475b7517d0ce@mail.gmail.com> <46a038f90910080426v5110d486sc21a8c919a46a6cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5256d0b0910080431te394abcn22ad331bdb11b6f9@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) > wrote: >> I think I told you that at the SugarCamp in Paris > > You weren't the only one :-) and in general it seemed to make sense. > > Ah, well. We're programmers, not mindreaders. > > After a bit of thought, initially at least, 0.7 will be based on F11. > It is very hard for me to get my own code stable while the whole > distro is in flux. Maybe there is a good opportunity for a F-12 rebase > before 0.7. Well if i can help out in any regards there feel free to ping me. Cheers, Peter From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 11:41:28 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:41:28 +0200 Subject: XS - rebase on F-11, notes and RHF In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0910080431te394abcn22ad331bdb11b6f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <46a038f90910080248g285d84am8d9e78acc8521f45@mail.gmail.com> <5256d0b0910080316r447bc268g7490927f19bbb74d@mail.gmail.com> <46a038f90910080333i196d4858qeeed96e4251b7294@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780910080407o6543399ar126c475b7517d0ce@mail.gmail.com> <46a038f90910080426v5110d486sc21a8c919a46a6cd@mail.gmail.com> <5256d0b0910080431te394abcn22ad331bdb11b6f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46a038f90910080441j1aad00ffva3b06138ca99795a@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > Well if i can help out in any regards there feel free to ping me. Thanks! Will keep the offer in mind :-) m -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Fri Oct 9 11:23:43 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:23:43 +0200 Subject: Working on the XS F11 rebase Message-ID: <46a038f90910090423p45620914kb80b412087fb23aa@mail.gmail.com> Working on... Packages: * idmgr - rebuilt * usbmont * pam_sotp -- help! doesn't build * ds-backup * ejabberd - rebuilt ** consider rebasing on 2.0.5, this will require remerging and retesting @online@ patches * fakeroot & fakechroot: F11 has current versions * kernel-xs: we'll have to get XO-1 and XO-1.5 kernels and initrds... * moodle-xs * olpc-contents: (or equivalent for bitfrost libs) * rssh - looks good on F11 * xs-activation * xs-activity-server * xs-config (lot of work to do!) * xs-logos * xs-pkgs: replace w groups (how? help!) * xs-release (have an intermediate one?) * xs-rsync * xs-tools * olpc-bios-crypto * xs-otp * xs-callhome Plus: * Get a usable installer build from revisor or pungi * Test this thing! You can track it on http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=User:Martinlanghoff/XS_F11_rebase_ToDo cheers, m -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Fri Oct 9 17:54:11 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:54:11 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild macro for libgcc.a location? Message-ID: <46a038f90910091054n46a30475h5ae1d517e2086015@mail.gmail.com> Working on an OLPC package (olpc-bios-crypto, which has a reasonable chance of being upstreamable when it stabilizes)... we keep appending -L lines to make it build in different releases / distros. Is there an rpm macro that points to the location of libgcc.a? Or an elegant way to get it? (While avoiding autoconf and the like...) For example, for F11 I am adding: -L/usr/lib/gcc/i586-redhat-linux/4.4.1/ cheers, martin -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From mavrothal at yahoo.com Fri Oct 9 21:55:59 2009 From: mavrothal at yahoo.com (Yioryos Asprobounitis) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: yum update crashes os7 Message-ID: <629026.79320.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Since I messed up my installation I re-downloaded os7 and after a yum update (with corrected repo files) updated 61 files including the olpc20091009 kernel and after restart it fail with a dracut problem. The attached picture is from the XO screen (easier than describing it...:) This is a problem I had seen using soas71xo too. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Updating first the kernel and the dracut is OK !?! > > ? ? ? From smparrish at gmail.com Sat Oct 10 00:23:43 2009 From: smparrish at gmail.com (Steven M. Parrish) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:23:43 -0400 Subject: Fw: yum update crashes os7 In-Reply-To: <291750.38836.qm@web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <291750.38836.qm@web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200910092023.43379.smparrish@gmail.com> > --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > > From: Yioryos Asprobounitis > > Subject: yum update crashes os7 > > To: fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > > Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 5:55 PM > > Since I messed up my installation I > > re-downloaded os7 and after a yum update (with corrected > > repo files) updated 61 files including the olpc20091009 > > kernel and after restart it fail with a dracut problem. > > The attached picture is from the XO screen (easier than > > describing it...:) > > This is a problem I had seen using soas71xo too. > > On a fresh install updating first to dracut 002-9 and then the to > kernel/headers 20091009...69c8c87 reproduces the problem. Updating first > the kernel and the dracut is OK !?! > > > > For some reason it looks like selinux is getting turned on and set to enforcing. I'll look into this and let you know. Steven ===================================================== Steven M. Parrish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar From mikus at bga.com Sat Oct 10 00:06:41 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:06:41 -0400 Subject: yum update crashes os7 Message-ID: <4ACFD011.5020804@bga.com> > ... after a yum update ... and after restart it fail with a dracut problem. I experienced the same thing. But the message (which your photo captured) says to add 'selinux=0' to the kernel parameters (which are supplied by the 'to boot-file' line in /boot/olpc.fth). I did that - then booting worked the way it was supposed to. mikus From martin at martindengler.com Sat Oct 10 01:35:10 2009 From: martin at martindengler.com (Martin Dengler) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:35:10 +0100 Subject: yum update crashes os7 In-Reply-To: <629026.79320.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <629026.79320.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20091010013510.GD13589@ops-13.xades.com> On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 02:55:59PM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > Since I messed up my installation I re-downloaded os7 and after a > yum update (with corrected repo files) updated 61 files including > the olpc20091009 kernel and after restart it fail with a dracut > problem. The attached picture is from the XO screen (easier than > describing it...:) This is a problem I had seen using soas71xo too. I can't see the image right now but it might be that the new fedora kernel has been installed last and "taken over" from the OLPC kernel. "rpm -e --force kernel" might fix it. You should double-check that the symlink in /boot points to the olpc kernel and that there is no initrd symlink -- since ISTR that you're using an XO and dracut will refust to boot on that at the moment. In fact, you might try trashing your /boot/initrd before you also remove the kernel, in case the Fedora kernel boots (I don't know that it does, and suspect it doesn't). Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think dracut's getting patched[1]; in the meantime appending "selinux=0" to the root line in /boot/olpc.fth might help. > Steven Martin 1. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.initramfs/1176 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The attached picture is from the XO > screen (easier than > > describing it...:) This is a problem I had seen using > soas71xo too. > > I can't see the image right now but it might be that the > new fedora > kernel has been installed last and "taken over" from the > OLPC kernel. > > "rpm -e --force kernel" might fix it. > > You should double-check that the symlink in /boot points to > the olpc > kernel and that there is no initrd symlink -- since ISTR > that you're > using an XO and dracut will refust to boot on that at the > moment. > > In fact, you might try trashing your /boot/initrd before > you also > remove the kernel, in case the Fedora kernel boots (I don't > know that > it does, and suspect it doesn't). > > Martin > Martin The kernel is the OLPC kernel not the fedora kernel (SM's modified repos take care of this). @Mikus. The point is that selinux should have nothing to do with this. The fact that depending on the order of update you may have or have not the problem indicates that is a bug of some sort. BTW when I say update first dracut then the kernel, it implies a reboot in between From smparrish at gmail.com Sun Oct 11 00:48:48 2009 From: smparrish at gmail.com (Steven M. Parrish) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:48:48 -0400 Subject: yum update crashes os7 In-Reply-To: <629026.79320.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <629026.79320.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200910102048.49473.smparrish@gmail.com> > Since I messed up my installation I re-downloaded os7 and after a yum > update (with corrected repo files) updated 61 files including the > olpc20091009 kernel and after restart it fail with a dracut problem. The > attached picture is from the XO screen (easier than describing it...:) > This is a problem I had seen using soas71xo too. > OS8 which will be released this week will disable selinux at boot, that will fix this issue. ===================================================== Steven M. Parrish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar From mavrothal at yahoo.com Sun Oct 11 07:08:27 2009 From: mavrothal at yahoo.com (Yioryos Asprobounitis) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: yum update crashes os7 In-Reply-To: <200910102048.49473.smparrish@gmail.com> Message-ID: <964431.8448.qm@web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 10/10/09, Steven M. Parrish wrote: > From: Steven M. Parrish > Subject: Re: yum update crashes os7 > To: fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 8:48 PM > > Since I messed up my > installation I re-downloaded os7 and after a yum > >? update (with corrected repo files) updated 61 > files including the > >? olpc20091009 kernel and after restart it fail > with a dracut problem. The > >? attached picture is from the XO screen (easier > than describing it...:) > >? This is a problem I had seen using soas71xo > too. > > > > OS8 which will be released this week will disable selinux > at boot, that will > fix this issue. > Nice :-) Could you also change the font size from 10 to 7 on "style.py" till a better solution can be found. Also adjust the firefox layout.css.dpi to "96" from "-1". Also change the GNOME appearance to something standard (crearlooks?). The bigger pointer of the custom theme is nice but somehow this custom theme blacks out the default buttons is many dialogs both in GNOME and Sugar Finally in GNOME power management set set the lid to do nothing (conflicts with powerd). Ideally the option should not be locked out till a solution can be found. Just little annoyances that give a more polished look to the build :-) > > ===================================================== > Steven M. Parrish > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 > A9A6 13C0 > http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, > #fedora-olpc, #sugar > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-olpc-list mailing list > Fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list > From mavrothal at yahoo.com Sun Oct 11 19:30:49 2009 From: mavrothal at yahoo.com (Yioryos Asprobounitis) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: camera fail Message-ID: <193867.36149.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I know this is not a question for this list but since most of the people have something to do with XO-1 are here, I will. In an XO-1 self set I get: camera pc at 2 self test failed return code=-1 Indeed the camera light comes on but no image either in OFW or under linux. Reseted the EC and reinstalled firmware q2e41. No change. Of course it could be just a hardware failure :( But what intrigues me is that I noticed the failure just after I had booted from the DScard (Ubuntu) and was unpacking an initrd.gz (cpio -i). I got the usual permission denied in dev/device creation step and then went on. Rebooting after that to f11/os7 from the NAND it failed at the loading the initrd.img step. This triggered the hardware test, where the camera problem was detected. Everything else was OK,however booting kept failing. Removing the SDcard allowed booting from the NAND! After disassembling the XO to see for any obvious problems, reassembling, flashing the FW etc. it boots OK from the NAND and the SDcard but no camera. Since I think that I remember having seen somewhere that the SDslot and the camera are somehow related, I'm hopping that the camera problem might be a software/firmware problem that could be fixed. I would be grateful for any suggestions If not, I guess I will not be testing camera function when is finally working in F11-XO1... (That's the connection with this list :-) From bobbypowers at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 19:15:41 2009 From: bobbypowers at gmail.com (Bobby Powers) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:15:41 -0400 Subject: camera fail In-Reply-To: <193867.36149.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <193867.36149.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <23e2e54b0910121215ya0d5946if60602bc1eb0c70f@mail.gmail.com> Did you ever have the camera working on the machine? If an image doesn't come up in the openfirmware test, it sounds like you're pretty hosed (and I don't see how installing Ubuntu could affect this). Bobby On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > I know this is not a question for this list but since most of the people have something to do with XO-1 are here, I will. > > In an XO-1 self set I get: > camera pc at 2 > self test failed return code=-1 > > Indeed the camera light comes on but no image either in OFW or under linux. Reseted the EC and reinstalled firmware q2e41. No change. > > Of course it could be just a hardware failure :( > But what intrigues me is that I noticed the failure just after I had booted from the DScard (Ubuntu) and was unpacking an initrd.gz (cpio -i). I got the usual permission denied in dev/device creation step and then went on. > Rebooting after that to f11/os7 from the NAND it failed at the loading the initrd.img step. This triggered the hardware test, where the camera problem was detected. > Everything else was OK,however booting kept failing. > Removing the SDcard allowed booting from the NAND! > After disassembling the XO to see for any obvious problems, reassembling, flashing the FW etc. it boots OK from the NAND and the SDcard but no camera. > > Since I think that I remember having seen somewhere that the SDslot and the camera are somehow related, I'm hopping that the camera problem might be a software/firmware problem that could be fixed. > > I would be grateful for any suggestions > > If not, I guess I will not be testing camera function when is finally working in F11-XO1... (That's the connection with this list :-) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-olpc-list mailing list > Fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list > From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 19:30:43 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:30:43 +0200 Subject: camera fail In-Reply-To: <193867.36149.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <193867.36149.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46a038f90910121230r247c7d17o10b913eda36f7f17@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > I know this is not a question for this list but since most of the people have something to do with XO-1 are here, I will. > > In an XO-1 self set I get: > camera pc at 2 > self test failed return code=-1 Search our mightly wiki.laptop.org . There is a procedure to tighten the cable, which sometimes gets loose. Has fixed every "bad" camera I've seen or heard of. cheers, m -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From mavrothal at yahoo.com Tue Oct 13 06:53:44 2009 From: mavrothal at yahoo.com (Yioryos Asprobounitis) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: camera fail In-Reply-To: <46a038f90910121230r247c7d17o10b913eda36f7f17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <83554.99735.qm@web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:30 PM, > Yioryos Asprobounitis > > wrote: > > I know this is not a question for this list but since > most of the people have something to do with XO-1 are here, > I will. > > > > In an XO-1 self set I get: > > camera pc at 2 > > self test failed return code=-1 > > Search our mightly wiki.laptop.org . There is a procedure > to tighten > the cable, which sometimes gets loose. Has fixed every > "bad" camera > I've seen or heard of. Thank you Martin. I have seen your comment in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Troubleshooting_AV#Images_from_the_camera_are_black but couldn't find any further instructions. From what I explored I must also remove the motherboard (I have a CL1 ver 3 machine). Correct? > Did you ever have the camera working on the machine? If an image > doesn't come up in the openfirmware test, it sounds like you're pretty > hosed (and I don't see how installing Ubuntu could affect this). Bobby a clarification, Ubuntu has nothing to do with the problem (runs for a year now on the XO) or the initrd unpacking (was a Puppy-linux initrd). Was just to point out that at the time I was not running Fedora/Sugar and the NAND was not even mounted (to be affected in the consecutive boot failure) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 07:43:21 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:43:21 +0200 Subject: camera fail In-Reply-To: <83554.99735.qm@web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <46a038f90910121230r247c7d17o10b913eda36f7f17@mail.gmail.com> <83554.99735.qm@web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46a038f90910130043i62c7fd3w14188e07c0a11b18@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Troubleshooting_AV#Images_from_the_camera_are_black > but couldn't find any further instructions. From what I explored I must also remove the motherboard (I have a CL1 ver 3 machine). Correct? No need to remove the mobo. Follow the instructions on that page, first paragraph right after the "Errors communicating with the camera" title. BTW, the cmments there are from Gary C Martin -- a different guy... cheers, m -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From mikus at bga.com Tue Oct 13 07:29:02 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:29:02 -0400 Subject: os31 distribution directory files Message-ID: <4AD42C3E.9010209@bga.com> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os31/ contains five large files. I have trouble figuring out the WHY of providing all these files: * os31.zd is input to 'fs-update' when using the XO OFW to install the build to an SD card that will reside in the XO-1.5. Clear enough. * os31.img.gz is input to 'zcat' when using a Linux system to install the build to an SD card that will reside in the XO-1.5. Clear enough. * os31.iso is input to 'livecd-iso-to-disk' when using a Fedora system to install the build to a removable device. The intent is clear, though I haven't tried with this file. * os31.bootable.gz is input to 'zcat' when using a Linux system to install the ("live") build to a removable device. I think the intent is to save running the 'livecd-iso-to-disk'. * os31.tree.tar.lzma is input to 'tar' when using a Linux system to install the ("permanent"?)build to a removable device. I hoped this method would let me keep the build on an USB stick. But I did not understand why the content of this tarfile omitted a 'vmlinuz' (in fact, the whole of '/boot' was omitted). Is that a bug -- or can the XO-1.5 boot without needing 'vmlinuz' ? mikus From mavrothal at yahoo.com Tue Oct 13 10:42:42 2009 From: mavrothal at yahoo.com (Yioryos Asprobounitis) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: camera fail In-Reply-To: <46a038f90910130043i62c7fd3w14188e07c0a11b18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <175476.26896.qm@web65516.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Martin Langhoff wrote: > From: Martin Langhoff > Subject: Re: camera fail > To: "Yioryos Asprobounitis" > Cc: "Bobby Powers" , fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 3:43 AM > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM, > Yioryos Asprobounitis > > wrote: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Troubleshooting_AV#Images_from_the_camera_are_black > > but couldn't find any further instructions. From what > I explored I must also remove the motherboard (I have a CL1 > ver 3 machine). Correct? > > No need to remove the mobo. Follow the instructions on that > page, > first paragraph right after the "Errors communicating with > the camera" > title. Thanks again. > > BTW, the cmments there are from Gary C Martin -- a > different guy... > Oooops... Hopefully either of you is offended > cheers, > > > > m > -- > martin.langhoff at gmail.com > martin at laptop.org > -- School Server Architect > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff? - working > code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > From mavrothal at yahoo.com Tue Oct 13 10:45:17 2009 From: mavrothal at yahoo.com (Yioryos Asprobounitis) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: camera fail In-Reply-To: <46a038f90910130043i62c7fd3w14188e07c0a11b18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <642351.76940.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Oooops again... (totally hopeless:) I meant "neither". From mavrothal at yahoo.com Tue Oct 13 16:28:51 2009 From: mavrothal at yahoo.com (Yioryos Asprobounitis) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: camera fail In-Reply-To: <46a038f90910130043i62c7fd3w14188e07c0a11b18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <26640.72091.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Martin Langhoff wrote: > From: Martin Langhoff > Subject: Re: camera fail > To: "Yioryos Asprobounitis" > Cc: "Bobby Powers" , fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 3:43 AM > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM, > Yioryos Asprobounitis > > wrote: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Troubleshooting_AV#Images_from_the_camera_are_black > > but couldn't find any further instructions. From what > I explored I must also remove the motherboard (I have a CL1 > ver 3 machine). Correct? > > No need to remove the mobo. Follow the instructions on that > page, > first paragraph right after the "Errors communicating with > the camera" > title. > It looks to me that the camera is the most non-accessible thing in the XO (at least with the MoBo in) fit in a plastic slot under the USB port. Indeed you can see a _very tight_ ribbon coming out when you remove the speaker, which I gingerly jingled a little bit and now the camera shows nice wide ribbons all across but is "OK" at the self test! I guess when the F11/osX is ready (or my son starts screaming :) I'll try some more jingling, unless there is some more wisdom you or someone else, has to offer. Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From wad at laptop.org Tue Oct 13 17:46:04 2009 From: wad at laptop.org (John Watlington) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:46:04 -0400 Subject: camera fail In-Reply-To: <26640.72091.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <26640.72091.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8F065FDB-8B1C-4E76-90B0-450FB5C3D821@laptop.org> Glad to hear that it wasn't the actual camera. Remove the motherboard and reseat the camera ribbon cable. You were within three screws and seven connectors of having it loose. I don't know who wrote that motherboard removal wasn't needed, but I've rarely had that work. wad On Oct 13, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > > > --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Martin Langhoff > wrote: > >> From: Martin Langhoff >> Subject: Re: camera fail >> To: "Yioryos Asprobounitis" >> Cc: "Bobby Powers" , fedora-olpc- >> list at redhat.com >> Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 3:43 AM >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM, >> Yioryos Asprobounitis >> >> wrote: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ >> XO_Troubleshooting_AV#Images_from_the_camera_are_black >>> but couldn't find any further instructions. From what >> I explored I must also remove the motherboard (I have a CL1 >> ver 3 machine). Correct? >> >> No need to remove the mobo. Follow the instructions on that >> page, >> first paragraph right after the "Errors communicating with >> the camera" >> title. >> > > It looks to me that the camera is the most non-accessible thing in > the XO (at least with the MoBo in) fit in a plastic slot under the > USB port. > Indeed you can see a _very tight_ ribbon coming out when you remove > the speaker, which I gingerly jingled a little bit and now the > camera shows nice wide ribbons all across but is "OK" at the self > test! > I guess when the F11/osX is ready (or my son starts screaming :) > I'll try some more jingling, unless there is some more wisdom you > or someone else, has to offer. > Thanks > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-olpc-list mailing list > Fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list From cjb at laptop.org Tue Oct 13 23:09:14 2009 From: cjb at laptop.org (Chris Ball) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 32 Message-ID: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os32 Compressed image size: 396.18mb (+7.32mb since build 31) Description of changes in this build: * now boots automatically, instead of dropping to ok prompt * wifi stays up and associated across a suspend/resume cycle * there's now a ".zd" file, which you can flash to internal SD from OFW with: ok fs-update ext:\os32.zd Package changes since build 31: +atlas-3.8.3-9.fc11.i586 -atlas-sse-3.8.3-4.fc11.i586 -audit-1.7.13-1.fc11.i586 +audit-1.7.14-1.fc11.i586 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-xz-4.999.8-0.8.beta.20090817git.fc11.i586 +xz-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc11.i586 -xz-libs-4.999.8-0.8.beta.20090817git.fc11.i586 +xz-libs-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc11.i586 -xz-lzma-compat-4.999.8-0.8.beta.20090817git.fc11.i586 +xz-lzma-compat-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc11.i586 -yum-3.2.24-1.fc11.noarch +yum-3.2.24-2.fc11.noarch -yum-utils-1.1.22-1.fc11.noarch +yum-utils-1.1.23-1.fc11.noarch From mikus at bga.com Wed Oct 14 01:07:54 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:07:54 -0400 Subject: os30 first impressions Message-ID: <4AD5246A.6090409@bga.com> Finally - the first new (non-F9) build that I've installed in over nine months that can show "movies" for me !! [Though even on the XO-1.5, YouTube remains "snapshotty" rather than "smooth".] I'm still getting a feel for what this system will do. My "suite" of multimedia applications works - and all of the 'memory-hogs' are much much quicker than on the XO-1. I noticed that this build does not even bother to define the msh0 interface. Also, my neighborhood view currently shows only me. Noticed flakiness with the video. Others have already noted the color bands during pretty boot. I also saw color areas while using the (normally all black) text console (alt-ctl-F2). When using a Frame icon's palette to 'Stop' a full-screen application, it looked like a series of screen images (but smaller than the screen itself) were being drawn as the previous session vanished. Some palette opens/closes on some Frame icons cause a screen-wide blink. All in all, a good system (with quirks). mikus From mikus at bga.com Wed Oct 14 20:31:54 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:31:54 -0400 Subject: Quick run through of Activities on XO-1.5 (Part I) Message-ID: <4AD6353A.3020804@bga.com> Wanted to verify which of the "standard" Activities (those included in recent builds, also on soas) would _launch__ on current build. [The only one which failed to launch was Measure (ticket #9371).] Note: For many of these Activities, I do not know enough about how they are supposed to work to be able to "test" them. Thus the list below did not "test" Activities - just checked if they would launch: Hardware: XO-1.5 B2 Build: os32 Sugar: 0.84.5-1 > --- > Analyze - 8 yes > Arithmetic - 1 yes > Browse - 108 yes - not polished > Calculate - 30 yes > CartoonBuilder - 5 yes > Chat - 65 yes > Clock - 5 yes > Colors - 15 yes > Develop - 39 yes - keep error > Distance - 14 yes > Etoys - 108 yes - slower than XO-1 > FlipSticks - 3 yes > FreeCell - 1 yes > GetIABooks - 3 yes - I don't have net > ImageViewer - 10 yes > Implode - 5 yes - slower than XO-1, keep error > InfoSlicer - 5 yes > IRC - 5 yes - I don't have net > JigsawPuzzle - 7 yes > JokeMachine - 10 yes > Jukebox - 11 yes > Labyrinth - 7 yes > Log - 18 yes > Maze - 6 yes > Measure - 21 no -- failed to launch > Memorize - 33 yes > Moon - 10 yes > Paint - 27 yes > Physics - 2 yes > Pippy - 34 yes - no module 'pippy' > Poll - 22 yes > Read - 68 yes > ReadETexts - 17 yes - I don't have net > Record - 64 yes - launched, but is not functional > Scratch - 12 yes > SliderPuzzle - 8 yes > Speak - 11 yes > StoryBuilder - 15 yes > TamTamEdit - 51 yes > TamTamJam - 52 yes > TamTamMini - 51 yes > TamTamSynthLab - 52 yes > Terminal - 25 yes > TurtleArt - 60 yes > TuxPaint - 3 yes > TypingTurtle - 16 yes - keep error > ViewSlides - 10 yes > Words - 4 yes > Write - 63 yes > --- mikus From martin at martindengler.com Wed Oct 14 22:57:27 2009 From: martin at martindengler.com (Martin Dengler) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:57:27 +0100 Subject: Quick run through of Activities on XO-1.5 (Part I) In-Reply-To: <4AD6353A.3020804@bga.com> References: <4AD6353A.3020804@bga.com> Message-ID: <20091014225727.GS13589@ops-13.xades.com> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:31:54PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Wanted to verify which of the "standard" Activities (those included in > recent builds, also on soas) would _launch__ on current build. This is a cool test. Is it automated? Can the build process use it to flag errors quicker? > mikus Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From smparrish at gmail.com Thu Oct 15 23:46:11 2009 From: smparrish at gmail.com (Steven M. Parrish) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:46:11 -0400 Subject: New F11 for the XO-1 Build 8 Message-ID: <200910151946.11946.smparrish@gmail.com> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 http://dev.laptop.org/~smparrish/XO-1/builds/OS8 This release includes a fix for the black box in Gnome, an updated repository definition, and replaces Firefox with Midori. If you still want to use Firefox you can always install it by doing a "yum install firefox" as the root user. Enjoy! Steven Here is a list of updated packages. -atlas-sse-3.8.3-4.fc11.i586 +atlas-3.8.3-9.fc11.i586 -audit-1.7.13-1.fc11.i586 -audit-libs-1.7.13-1.fc11.i586 +audit-1.7.14-1.fc11.i586 +audit-libs-1.7.14-1.fc11.i586 -bind-libs-9.6.1-5.P1.fc11.i586 -bind-utils-9.6.1-5.P1.fc11.i586 +bind-libs-9.6.1-6.P1.fc11.i586 +bind-utils-9.6.1-6.P1.fc11.i586 -cpuspeed-1.5-10.fc11.i586 +cpuspeed-1.5-12.fc11.i586 -crda-1.1.0_2009.09.08-2.fc11.i586 -cronie-1.3-2.fc11.i586 +crda-1.1.0_2009.09.08-3.fc11.i586 +cronie-1.3-3.fc11.i586 -cups-libs-1.4-0.rc1.15.fc11.i586 +cups-libs-1.4.1-4.fc11.i586 -deltarpm-3.4-16.fc11.i586 +deltarpm-3.4-18.fc11.i586 -dhclient-4.1.0p1-4.fc11.i586 +dhclient-4.1.0p1-5.fc11.i586 -dnsmasq-2.46-2.fc11.i586 +dnsmasq-2.46-3.fc11.i586 -dracut-002-1.fc11.i586 +dracut-002-9.git99fd62e3.fc11.i586 -etoys-4.0.2279-1.fc11.noarch +etoys-4.0.2332-1.fc11.noarch -fedora-bookmarks-11-1.noarch -fedora-olpc-release-11-3.noarch +fedora-olpc-release-11-5.noarch -file-5.03-2.fc11.i586 -file-libs-5.03-2.fc11.i586 +file-5.03-3.fc11.i586 +file-libs-5.03-3.fc11.i586 -firefox-3.5.3-1.fc11.i586 -fuse-2.7.4-3.fc11.i586 -fuse-libs-2.7.4-3.fc11.i586 +fuse-2.8.1-1.fc11.i586 +fuse-libs-2.8.1-1.fc11.i586 +geoclue-0.11.1.1-0.6.20090310git3a31d26.fc11.i586 -gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-10.fc11.i586 +gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-11.fc11.i586 -gnumeric-1.8.4-2.fc11.i586 +gnumeric-1.8.4-3.fc11.i586 -gnutls-2.6.6-2.fc11.i586 +gnutls-2.6.6-3.fc11.i586 -gstreamer-0.10.24-1.fc11.i586 -gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.24-1.fc11.i586 +gstreamer-0.10.25-1.fc11.i586 +gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc11.i586 -gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11.i586 +gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-1.fc11.i586 -gstreamer-tools-0.10.24-1.fc11.i586 +gstreamer-tools-0.10.25-1.fc11.i586 -iw-0.9.15-1.fc11.i586 +iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586 -kernel-2.6.30_xo1-20090919.0116.1.olpc.d2189d4.i586 -kernel-firmware-2.6.30_xo1-20090919.0116.1.olpc.d2189d4.i586 +kernel-2.6.30_xo1-20091009.1735.1.olpc.69c8c87.i586 +kernel-firmware-2.6.30_xo1-20091009.1735.1.olpc.69c8c87.i586 -libv4l-0.6.1-1.fc11.i586 +libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc11.i586 -libxml2-2.7.4-2.fc11.i586 -libxml2-python-2.7.4-2.fc11.i586 +libxml2-2.7.6-1.fc11.i586 +libxml2-python-2.7.6-1.fc11.i586 -libxslt-1.1.25-1.fc11.i586 +libxslt-1.1.26-1.fc11.i586 +midori-0.1.10-1.fc11.i586 -nautilus-2.26.3-3.fc11.i586 -nautilus-extensions-2.26.3-3.fc11.i586 +nautilus-2.26.4-2.fc11.i586 +nautilus-extensions-2.26.4-2.fc11.i586 -newt-0.52.10-3.fc11.i586 -newt-python-0.52.10-3.fc11.i586 +newt-0.52.10-4.fc11.i586 +newt-python-0.52.10-4.fc11.i586 +nodoka-theme-gnome-0.3.90-3.fc11.noarch -openldap-2.4.15-5.fc11.i586 +openldap-2.4.15-6.fc11.i586 -perl-5.10.0-73.fc11.i586 -perl-libs-5.10.0-73.fc11.i586 -perl-Module-Pluggable-3.60-73.fc11.i586 -perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-73.fc11.i586 -perl-Pod-Simple-3.07-73.fc11.i586 -perl-version-0.74-73.fc11.i586 +perl-5.10.0-82.fc11.i586 +perl-libs-5.10.0-82.fc11.i586 +perl-Module-Pluggable-3.90-82.fc11.i586 +perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-82.fc11.i586 +perl-Pod-Simple-3.07-82.fc11.i586 +perl-version-0.74-82.fc11.i586 +python-BeautifulSoup-3.0.7a-1.fc11.noarch +python-lxml-2.2.2-1.fc11.i586 +pywebkitgtk-1.1.6-2.fc11.i586 -rpm-4.7.1-1.fc11.i586 -rpm-libs-4.7.1-1.fc11.i586 -rpm-python-4.7.1-1.fc11.i586 +rpm-4.7.1-3.fc11.i586 +rpm-libs-4.7.1-3.fc11.i586 +rpm-python-4.7.1-3.fc11.i586 -setup-2.8.3-1.fc11.noarch +setup-2.8.3-2.fc11.noarch -shared-mime-info-0.60-3.fc11.i586 +shared-mime-info-0.60-4.fc11.i586 -smartmontools-5.38-13.fc11.i586 -sos-1.8-16.fc11.noarch +smartmontools-5.38-18.fc11.i586 +sos-1.8-17.fc11.noarch -taglib-1.5-9.fc11.i586 +taglib-1.6-2.fc11.i586 -totem-2.26.3-5.fc11.i586 -totem-gstreamer-2.26.3-5.fc11.i586 -totem-mozplugin-2.26.3-5.fc11.i586 -totem-pl-parser-2.26.2-2.fc11.i586 +totem-2.26.3-6.fc11.i586 +totem-gstreamer-2.26.3-6.fc11.i586 +totem-mozplugin-2.26.3-6.fc11.i586 +totem-pl-parser-2.26.3-1.fc11.i586 -tzdata-2009m-1.fc11.noarch +tzdata-2009m-2.fc11.noarch -wavpack-4.50.1-3.fc11.i586 +wavpack-4.60-1.fc11.i586 +webkitgtk-1.1.10-1.fc11.i586 -xapian-bindings-python-1.0.15-1.fc11.i586 -xapian-core-libs-1.0.15-1.fc11.i586 +xapian-bindings-python-1.0.16-1.fc11.i586 +xapian-core-libs-1.0.16-1.fc11.i586 -xorg-x11-server-common-1.6.4-0.1.fc11.i586 +xorg-x11-server-common-1.6.4-0.3.fc11.i586 -xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.4-0.1.fc11.i586 +xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.4-0.3.fc11.i586 -xz-4.999.8-0.8.beta.20090817git.fc11.i586 -xz-libs-4.999.8-0.8.beta.20090817git.fc11.i586 -xz-lzma-compat-4.999.8-0.8.beta.20090817git.fc11.i586 +xz-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc11.i586 +xz-libs-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc11.i586 +xz-lzma-compat-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc11.i586 -yum-3.2.24-1.fc11.noarch +yum-3.2.24-2.fc11.noarch -yum-plugin-protectbase-1.1.22-1.fc11.noarch +yum-plugin-protectbase-1.1.23-1.fc11.noarch -yum-utils-1.1.22-1.fc11.noarch +yum-utils-1.1.23-1.fc11.noarch ===================================================== Steven M. Parrish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar From mikus at bga.com Fri Oct 16 15:44:11 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:44:11 -0400 Subject: XO-1.5 follow-on impression Message-ID: <4AD894CB.4020201@bga.com> Was able to use the XO-1.5 (os32) at another location, connected without a proxy. My opinion - this is a quite nice machine. The principal user-perception experience where improvement would still be welcome is video support. Changes to the screen (e.g., show/hide Frame) are not being done "smoothly". And when viewing "moving pictures", the currently scanty hardware acceleration (e.g., ticket #9407) is noticeable. For me, the XO-1.5 is a "performer" -- it runs many many Activities, plus applications ported from Linux. Interaction with the network works. I think that with this product the users' demands are met. mikus From jon.nettleton at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 16:49:09 2009 From: jon.nettleton at gmail.com (Jon Nettleton) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:49:09 -0700 Subject: XO-1.5 follow-on impression In-Reply-To: <4AD894CB.4020201@bga.com> References: <4AD894CB.4020201@bga.com> Message-ID: <1255711749.2280.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Mikus On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 11:44 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Was able to use the XO-1.5 (os32) at another location, connected > without a proxy. My opinion - this is a quite nice machine. > > The principal user-perception experience where improvement would > still be welcome is video support. Changes to the screen (e.g., > show/hide Frame) are not being done "smoothly". And when viewing > "moving pictures", the currently scanty hardware acceleration (e.g., > ticket #9407) is noticeable. I am working on debugging this right this moment. Hope to have the 2d squared away in a few hours. -Jon From mikus at bga.com Fri Oct 16 17:56:06 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:56:06 -0400 Subject: XO-1.5 follow-on impression Message-ID: <4AD8B3B6.7080003@bga.com> >> The principal user-perception experience where improvement would >> still be welcome is video support. > > I am working on debugging this right this moment. Hope to have the 2d > squared away in a few hours. I am not a developer; don't have git (it doesn't work with a proxy). But I am very much interested in the XO-1.5 getting good video. OLPC let me have an XO-1.5. Thanks. I'm willing to use it (and my time, and my XO-1s) to help in any way possible to assist. If there is any experimenting/testing that I can do for you, please make use of me. Thanks, mikus From meta.sj at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 19:05:09 2009 From: meta.sj at gmail.com (Samuel Klein) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:05:09 -0400 Subject: XO-1.5 follow-on impression In-Reply-To: <4AD894CB.4020201@bga.com> References: <4AD894CB.4020201@bga.com> Message-ID: <5396c0d10910161205l6d0c19fcq1ee244774a216d55@mail.gmail.com> Some more comments from recent use and demos of my 1.5 w/ os32, some of which I'll put into trac. 1) Twice in half an hour I was able to get Sugar to stop redrawing when, while it had 5-6 activities open, someone hovered over the XO on the desktop to pull up the config menu. The menu would open, not display text, and the mouse and interface would stop working. journal/frame keys wouldn't work. ctrl-alt-del worked instantly in both cases to restart X. I couldn't dupliate on demand. 2) Infoslicer always claimed it couldn't reach the network to download articles even when browse had no trouble. 3) The network still shows three copies of every access point. 4) Both Browse and Firefox on Gnome don't load certain popular sites (see below). SJ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kalil Nicolas Subject: V1.5 issue Since you said to report issues I may find in the V1.5, here are a few: Using Gnome, I try accessing the Major League Baseball website and since there are too many pics and some options for real time games, the pictures just keep flashing and never actually open?its very slow Same happens when I access the Skype Website (was going to try and download) the website wouldn?t open, it keeps just flashing back and forth the download option. ============= On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Was able to use the XO-1.5 (os32) at another location, connected without a > proxy. ?My opinion - this is a quite nice machine. > > The principal user-perception experience where improvement would still be > welcome is video support. ?Changes to the screen (e.g., show/hide Frame) are > not being done "smoothly". ?And when viewing "moving pictures", the > currently scanty hardware acceleration (e.g., ticket #9407) is noticeable. > > For me, the XO-1.5 is a "performer" -- it runs many many Activities, plus > applications ported from Linux. ?Interaction with the network works. ?I > think that with this product the users' demands are met. > > mikus > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-olpc-list mailing list > Fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list > From jvonau at shaw.ca Fri Oct 16 21:01:51 2009 From: jvonau at shaw.ca (Jerry Vonau) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:01:51 -0500 Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 32 In-Reply-To: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> References: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> Message-ID: <1255726911.3622.25.camel@f9.vonau.ca> On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 19:09 -0400, Chris Ball wrote: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 > http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os32 > > Compressed image size: 396.18mb (+7.32mb since build 31) > > Description of changes in this build: > * now boots automatically, instead of dropping to ok prompt > * wifi stays up and associated across a suspend/resume cycle > * there's now a ".zd" file, which you can flash to internal SD from OFW with: > ok fs-update ext:\os32.zd > Being an OFW novice I opted to build a multi-boot olpc.fth to be able to boot the internal/external mmc slots or usb. I didn't want to mess around with the internal olpc.fth, just yet, for fear of messing that up while testing. I just created a USB "boot-disk" with below olpc.fth file: http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/olpc.fth Not sure if option 4 is valid anymore... Perhaps this could be made available by default in the install? Just a choice between internal/external would be enough, to enable testing of a second image. Should be able to use filesystem labels here also. LABEL=OLPCRoot for the internal, maybe OLPCRoot2 for the external. That would leave just labeling the filesystem to the tester. Is the WiFi suppose to work with the School Mesh out of the box? I saw the patches on the NM list, just wondering... If not, could you point me to some repo/rpms that could enable is? Thanks Jerry From mikus at bga.com Fri Oct 16 21:27:37 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:27:37 -0400 Subject: XO-1.5 follow-on impression Message-ID: <4AD8E549.1030103@bga.com> My experience with the XO-1.5 has been much better: > 4) Both Browse and Firefox on Gnome don't load certain popular sites > (see below). I don't go to Gnome - I run both Browse and Firefox under Sugar. Neither Browse nor Firefox had any trouble whatsoever with either of those sites (Skype, Major League Baseball). Browse behaved nicely - if I clicked on one of the panels in the Baseball site, it opened a smaller window within the current one. With Firefox, I had to figure out what was happening - it opened another (full screen) Sugar window - so I had to go to the icon in Frame to close that subwindow. My explanation for the difference in behavior is *flash* -- I'm using the latest plugin from Adobe -- and I suspect you are not. [Firefox for me has video size adjustment problems - but that's firefox interfacing with video support, not "browsing" per se. Other browsers on XO-1.5 do not have the video size problem.] > 3) The network still shows three copies of every access point. I'm using os32. Have not used access points much (at home I have wired rather than wireless), but every location I've been in, Neighborhood View has shown me only one icon for every accessible access point. [But these days (os32), Frame is showing me two batteries -- and the percentage of charge is different between the two !!] > 2) Infoslicer always claimed it couldn't reach the network Did not run Infoslicer when away from home - so haven't tried it. > 1) ... someone hovered over the XO on > the desktop to pull up the config menu. The menu would open, not > display text, and the mouse and interface would stop working. I've had similar hurdles with Home View. What I've always been able to do is "brute force" - move the cursor, click, move the cursor, click, etc. So far, Home View responsiveness has always come back. [I've been using an external USB trackball with the XO-1.5.] mikus From sebastian at when.com Fri Oct 16 23:19:19 2009 From: sebastian at when.com (Sebastian Dziallas) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:19:19 +0200 Subject: XO-1.5 follow-on impression In-Reply-To: <4AD8E549.1030103@bga.com> References: <4AD8E549.1030103@bga.com> Message-ID: <4AD8FF77.2010208@when.com> Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > My experience with the XO-1.5 has been much better: [...] snip! >> 2) Infoslicer always claimed it couldn't reach the network > > Did not run Infoslicer when away from home - so haven't tried it. I heard this was a known issue - the Wikipedia folks changed apparently some stuff and now InfoSlicer's parser has issues with obtaining content. Or so I've been told. > mikus --Sebastian From mikus at bga.com Sat Oct 17 20:13:12 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:13:12 -0400 Subject: XO-1.5 unexpected behavior Message-ID: <4ADA2558.8060208@bga.com> I normally work with both an external USB mouse and an external USB keyboard plugged in. Just now I noticed that the keys on the XO itself were no longer working; neither was the touchpad. [The USB devices continued to work.] Rebooting made no change (whether the USB devices were plugged in or not) - on the XO neither the built-in keyboard nor the built-in touchpad worked; when plugged in, the USB-connected mouse and keyboard worked fine. I did a "dcon reset" by removing the AC cord and the battery for a number of minutes, then rebooting. Now both the built-in keyboard and the built-in touchpad work correctly. Serial SHC93700111D. mikus From pgf at laptop.org Sat Oct 17 21:34:17 2009 From: pgf at laptop.org (Paul Fox) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:34:17 -0400 Subject: XO-1.5 unexpected behavior In-Reply-To: <4ADA2558.8060208@bga.com> (sfid-20091017_171410_565321_F23F6544) References: <4ADA2558.8060208@bga.com> (sfid-20091017_171410_565321_F23F6544) Message-ID: <32589.1255815257@foxharp.boston.ma.us> thanks mikus -- i think we found this earlier this week -- i believe this will be fixed in the next (q3a14?) firmware. the problem is rooted in trac #9453, though the symptoms have changed a bit since the original problem and description. paul mikus wrote: > I normally work with both an external USB mouse and an external USB > keyboard plugged in. Just now I noticed that the keys on the XO > itself were no longer working; neither was the touchpad. [The USB > devices continued to work.] Rebooting made no change (whether the > USB devices were plugged in or not) - on the XO neither the built-in > keyboard nor the built-in touchpad worked; when plugged in, the > USB-connected mouse and keyboard worked fine. > > I did a "dcon reset" by removing the AC cord and the battery for a > number of minutes, then rebooting. Now both the built-in keyboard > and the built-in touchpad work correctly. Serial SHC93700111D. > > mikus > > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel at lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =--------------------- paul fox, pgf at laptop.org From mikus at bga.com Sun Oct 18 00:28:37 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:28:37 -0400 Subject: XO-1.5 unexpected behavior Message-ID: <4ADA6135.1040902@bga.com> > http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q30233.rom > Should fix your problems.. I was running with Q3A13.rom when I saw the symptom. Am running now with Q30233.rom. Thanks, mikus From mikus at bga.com Sun Oct 18 12:34:25 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:34:25 -0400 Subject: Quick run through of Activities on XO-1.5 (Part II) Message-ID: <4ADB0B51.2040306@bga.com> Continued with the verification of which of the Activities I had previously installed would _launch__ on the current XO-1.5 build. Note: This list includes some versions of Activities that are newer than the versions distributed with the build. This list may also include some Activities that have been obsoleted, where the current Activity with similar function has a different name. Note: For many of these Activities, I do not know enough about how they are supposed to work to be able to "test" them. Thus the list below did not "test" Activities - just checked if they would launch: Hardware: XO-1.5 B2 Build: os32 Sugar: 0.84.5-1 > --- > BlockHead - 7 yes (confusing) > Bounce - 7 yes - very slow - "framedrops" - ball pauses > BundleActivity - 2 no -- interface change > CellGame - 1 yes > COBBLE - 3 yes - launched, but problems > ColorDeducto -1 yes - launched, but no color > ConozcoUruguay - 7 yes (cute!) > Deducto - 1 yes > Domino - 7 yes > DrGeoII - 148 yes > Ecomundo - 2 yes > Elements - 1 yes > EPaati - 13 yes > Etoys = 110 yes > ExecCommand - 1 no -- exit on launch > falabracman - 1 yes (cool!) > FiftyTwo - 2 yes > Finance - 2 yes - keep error > FoodForce2 - 1 no -- corrupts own directory > HablarConSara - 2 no -- activity code problem > Help - 10 no -- interface change > Helpfr - 5 yes > Hop-A-Round - 2 yes > iStoa.net - 150 yes > Karma - 1 yes - firefox window too large > Library - 1 yes > Log = 20 yes > Mail - 1 yes - I don't have net > Map - 2 yes - I don't have net > Measure = 28 yes - no microphone input > MindMap - 1 no -- activity code problem > Model - 8 no -- interface change > NewsReader - 24 no -- gtk interface in F11 has changed > Opera - 1 yes > Pacman - 2 yes - slower than XO-1 > Physics - 3 yes > Pippy = 35 yes - no module 'pippy' > PlayGo - 6 yes > Pointillism - 1 no -- interface change - no camera > Quiz - 3 no -- activity code problem > RoadMap - 3 yes - squeezed horizontally (half wide) > Ruler - 4 yes > SarynPaint - 1 yes > ShowNTell - 2 no -- activity code problem > SocialCalcActivity - 1 yes > sonata - 11 no -- gtk interface in F11 has changed > StarChart - 5 yes > StopWatchActivity - 3 yes > Surf - 106 yes - I don't have net > TabletAreaTest - 1 yes > Theorie - 8 yes > TurtleArt = 74 yes > TurtleArtPortfolio - 15 yes - keep error > TypingTurtle = 21 yes > Update - 1 yes - I don't have net - icon not proper > VideoChat - 9 ?? I don't have net - no camera > watch-listen - 14 no -- python interface in F11 has changed > WatchMe - 2 yes - I don't have net - no camera > Wine - 19 yes > WirelessGraph - 7 yes > X - 1 yes > x2o - 9 yes > XaoS - 2 yes > Xmms - 1 no -- exit on launch > xoEditor - 2 yes > --- mikus From walter.bender at gmail.com Sun Oct 18 16:32:20 2009 From: walter.bender at gmail.com (Walter Bender) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:32:20 -0400 Subject: Fedora-olpc-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <20091018160018.7FA6F6192E3@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20091018160018.7FA6F6192E3@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > Send Fedora-olpc-list mailing list submissions to > ? ? ? ?fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ? ? ? ?https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ? ? ? ?fedora-olpc-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ? ? ? ?fedora-olpc-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-olpc-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. XO-1.5 unexpected behavior (Mikus Grinbergs) > ? 2. Re: XO-1.5 unexpected behavior ?(Paul Fox) > ? 3. Re: XO-1.5 unexpected behavior (Mikus Grinbergs) > ? 4. Quick run through of Activities on XO-1.5 (Part II) > ? ? ?(Mikus Grinbergs) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:13:12 -0400 > From: Mikus Grinbergs > Subject: XO-1.5 unexpected behavior > To: fedora-olpc-list , ? ? devel > ? ? ? ? > Message-ID: <4ADA2558.8060208 at bga.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I normally work with both an external USB mouse and an external USB > keyboard plugged in. ?Just now I noticed that the keys on the XO > itself were no longer working; neither was the touchpad. ?[The USB > devices continued to work.] ?Rebooting made no change (whether the > USB devices were plugged in or not) - on the XO neither the built-in > keyboard nor the built-in touchpad worked; ?when plugged in, the > USB-connected mouse and keyboard worked fine. > > I did a "dcon reset" by removing the AC cord and the battery for a > number of minutes, then rebooting. ?Now both the built-in keyboard > and the built-in touchpad work correctly. ?Serial SHC93700111D. > > mikus > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:34:17 -0400 > From: Paul Fox > Subject: Re: XO-1.5 unexpected behavior > To: Mikus Grinbergs > Cc: devel , ? ? fedora-olpc-list > ? ? ? ? > Message-ID: <32589.1255815257 at foxharp.boston.ma.us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > thanks mikus -- i think we found this earlier this week -- i > believe this will be fixed in the next (q3a14?) firmware. ?the > problem is rooted in trac #9453, though the symptoms have changed > a bit since the original problem and description. > > paul > > mikus wrote: > ?> I normally work with both an external USB mouse and an external USB > ?> keyboard plugged in. ?Just now I noticed that the keys on the XO > ?> itself were no longer working; neither was the touchpad. ?[The USB > ?> devices continued to work.] ?Rebooting made no change (whether the > ?> USB devices were plugged in or not) - on the XO neither the built-in > ?> keyboard nor the built-in touchpad worked; ?when plugged in, the > ?> USB-connected mouse and keyboard worked fine. > ?> > ?> I did a "dcon reset" by removing the AC cord and the battery for a > ?> number of minutes, then rebooting. ?Now both the built-in keyboard > ?> and the built-in touchpad work correctly. ?Serial SHC93700111D. > ?> > ?> mikus > ?> > ?> _______________________________________________ > ?> Devel mailing list > ?> Devel at lists.laptop.org > ?> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > =--------------------- > ?paul fox, pgf at laptop.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:28:37 -0400 > From: Mikus Grinbergs > Subject: Re: XO-1.5 unexpected behavior > To: Paul Fox , Richard Smith > Cc: fedora-olpc-list > Message-ID: <4ADA6135.1040902 at bga.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >> http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q30233.rom >> Should fix your problems.. > > I was running with Q3A13.rom when I saw the symptom. > Am running now with Q30233.rom. > > Thanks, ?mikus > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:34:25 -0400 > From: Mikus Grinbergs > Subject: Quick run through of Activities on XO-1.5 (Part II) > To: fedora-olpc-list List > Message-ID: <4ADB0B51.2040306 at bga.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Continued with the verification of which of the Activities I had > previously installed would _launch__ on the current XO-1.5 build. > > Note: ?This list includes some versions of Activities that are newer > than the versions distributed with the build. ?This list may also > include some Activities that have been obsoleted, where the current > Activity with similar function has a different name. > > Note: ?For many of these Activities, I do not know enough about how > they are supposed to work to be able to "test" them. ?Thus the list > below did not "test" Activities - just checked if they would launch: > > Hardware: XO-1.5 B2 > Build: os32 > Sugar: 0.84.5-1 > [snip] >> ? ? TurtleArtPortfolio - 15 ? yes - keep error Please note that this activity has been obsolesced by Turtle Art. It should be removed from the build. [snip] > > mikus > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-olpc-list mailing list > Fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list > > End of Fedora-olpc-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 17 > ************************************************ > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org From mikus at bga.com Mon Oct 19 04:18:33 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:18:33 -0400 Subject: Quick run through of Activities on XO-1.5 (Part III) Message-ID: <4ADBE899.5040305@bga.com> Continued with the verification of which Activities I had saved (but had not run recently) would _launch__ on the current XO-1.5 build. Note: This list may include some Activities that have been obsoleted, where the current Activity with similar function has a different name. Many of the Activities on this list are orphaned -- yet some people who got their machines in early 2008 may still be running such not-currently-maintained Activities. Note: There exist other Activities I do not have on my system. For some of those (e.g., Firefox), it is because I have the same functionality installed as a non-Sugar application. Note: For many of these Activities, I do not know enough about how they are supposed to work to be able to "test" them. Thus the list below did not "test" Activities - just checked if they would launch: Hardware: XO-1.5 B2 Build: os32 Sugar: 0.84.5-1 > --- > Abalone - 80601 yes (does it work?) > Ajedrez - 1 yes > APRSXO - 14 yes > asteroids - 1 no -- interface change > audacity - 1 yes - needed libexpat pointer > Bridge - 2 yes > cells - 2 yes - activity window too large > chess_computer - 10 yes > childsplay - 1 yes (nice!) > classic - 6 no -- activity code problem > CmapTools - 1 ?? (took no input) > Connect - 22 yes - I don't have net > Doom - 1 yes - graphics very fuzzy > DOSConsole - 3 yes > ePals - 3 no -- gtk interface in F11 has changed > Frotz - 3 yes > Geoquiz - 4 yes (confusing) > Gmail - 5 no -- interface change > gpodder - 2 no -- gtk interface in F11 has changed > HelloMesh - 3 yes - I don't have mesh > idle - 2 yes - (will debug python!) > inarow - 1 yes > Jump - 1 yes > Kuku - 1 no -- interface change > LearningCenter - 4 yes > LeerPendrive - 1 yes > License - 4 yes > listen-spell - 2 ?? (took no input) > MaMaMediaMenu - 3 no -- interface change > MapStats - 1 yes > Memosono - 10 ?? (took no input) > micropolis - 8 yes > MikMik - 1 no -- interface change > Mimic - 1 no -- activity code problem > MotionCapture - 3 no -- interface change - no camera > OurStories - 1 yes - no microphone input > Panorama - 1 no -- interface change - no camera > pydance - 2 no -- activity code problem > Screencast - 1 yes - no camera > simcity - 5 yes > Smile - 2 no -- interface change > SpaceTag - 1 yes - no cursor > SpillDill - 1 yes (does it work?) > swordread - 2 no -- interface change > ucblogo - 4 yes > Wesnoth - 1452 yes - needed libpython2.5.so pointer > xoget - 1 no -- gtk interface in F11 has changed > XOlympics - 1 yes > --- mikus From wad at laptop.org Mon Oct 19 09:13:32 2009 From: wad at laptop.org (John Watlington) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:13:32 -0400 Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 32 In-Reply-To: <1255726911.3622.25.camel@f9.vonau.ca> References: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> <1255726911.3622.25.camel@f9.vonau.ca> Message-ID: On Oct 16, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 19:09 -0400, Chris Ball wrote: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 >> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os32 >> >> Compressed image size: 396.18mb (+7.32mb since build 31) >> >> Description of changes in this build: >> * now boots automatically, instead of dropping to ok prompt >> * wifi stays up and associated across a suspend/resume cycle >> * there's now a ".zd" file, which you can flash to internal SD >> from OFW with: >> ok fs-update ext:\os32.zd >> > > Being an OFW novice I opted to build a multi-boot olpc.fth to be > able to > boot the internal/external mmc slots or usb. I didn't want to mess > around with the internal olpc.fth, just yet, for fear of messing > that up > while testing. I just created a USB "boot-disk" with below olpc.fth > file: > > http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/olpc.fth cool. > Not sure if option 4 is valid anymore... > > Perhaps this could be made available by default in the install? > Just a choice between internal/external would be enough, to enable > testing of a second image. This is the subject of Trac ticket 9457: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9457 The expected usage model for an XO is that if there is a bootable image on the external SD card or USB, it will be booted. If you want to boot from the internal SD card, either remove the external SD card or the bootable image installed on it. I don't think we want to change this model. This is currently broken, due to the way that the kernel names devices. I believe that the proposed solution was to use udev in the initramfs image to provide stable names. > Should be able to use filesystem labels here also. LABEL=OLPCRoot for > the internal, maybe OLPCRoot2 for the external. That would leave just > labeling the filesystem to the tester. Can't use filesystem labels, as we are frequently testing standard builds (an older one on the internal card, and a newer one on the external one.) Since we distribute disk images, both will have the same label by default. Cheers, wad From jvonau at shaw.ca Thu Oct 22 00:57:13 2009 From: jvonau at shaw.ca (Jerry Vonau) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:57:13 -0500 Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 32 In-Reply-To: References: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> <1255726911.3622.25.camel@f9.vonau.ca> Message-ID: <1256173033.3622.306.camel@f9.vonau.ca> On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 05:13 -0400, John Watlington wrote: > On Oct 16, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > > On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 19:09 -0400, Chris Ball wrote: > > Being an OFW novice I opted to build a multi-boot olpc.fth to be > > able to > > boot the internal/external mmc slots or usb. I didn't want to mess > > around with the internal olpc.fth, just yet, for fear of messing > > that up > > while testing. I just created a USB "boot-disk" with below olpc.fth > > file: > > > > http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/olpc.fth > cool. > This is an updated version, you can now see the options without holding down the "check" key and does the right thing booting the kernel and then mounting root. Came across the device names running ofw's self-test. > > Not sure if option 4 is valid anymore... > > > > Perhaps this could be made available by default in the install? > > Just a choice between internal/external would be enough, to enable > > testing of a second image. > > This is the subject of Trac ticket 9457: > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9457 > Yea I was looking at that. > The expected usage model for an XO is that if there is a bootable > image on the external SD card or USB, it will be booted. If you > want to boot from the internal SD card, either remove the external SD > card or the bootable image installed on it. > > I don't think we want to change this model. > > This is currently broken, due to the way that the kernel names > devices. I believe that the proposed solution was to use udev > in the initramfs image to provide stable names. > Think the key here is to use something like set-bootpath-dev in livecd's olpc.fth to auto detect where the olpc.fth was picked up (booted?) from. This is reflected in /ofw/chosen/bootpath, can some one short-cut me to the source in ofw? > > Should be able to use filesystem labels here also. LABEL=OLPCRoot for > > the internal, maybe OLPCRoot2 for the external. That would leave just > > labeling the filesystem to the tester. > > Can't use filesystem labels, as we are frequently testing standard > builds (an older one on the internal card, and a newer one on the > external one.) Since we distribute disk images, both will have the > same label by default. > > Cheers, > wad > Jerry From quozl at laptop.org Thu Oct 22 01:20:32 2009 From: quozl at laptop.org (James Cameron) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:20:32 +1100 Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 32 In-Reply-To: <1256173033.3622.306.camel@f9.vonau.ca> References: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> <1255726911.3622.25.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <1256173033.3622.306.camel@f9.vonau.ca> Message-ID: <20091022012032.GB30986@us.netrek.org> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 07:57:13PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 05:13 -0400, John Watlington wrote: [?] > > The expected usage model for an XO is that if there is a bootable > > image on the external SD card or USB, it will be booted. If you > > want to boot from the internal SD card, either remove the external SD > > card or the bootable image installed on it. > > > > I don't think we want to change this model. > > > > This is currently broken, due to the way that the kernel names > > devices. I believe that the proposed solution was to use udev > > in the initramfs image to provide stable names. > > Think the key here is to use something like set-bootpath-dev in livecd's > olpc.fth to auto detect where the olpc.fth was picked up (booted?) from. > This is reflected in /ofw/chosen/bootpath, can some one short-cut me to > the source in ofw? Not *quite* sure what you are after, but bootpath is in ofw/core/bootparm.fth ... d# 1024 buffer: path-buf headers ' path-buf " bootpath" chosen-string headerless d# 1024 buffer: args-buf headers ' args-buf " bootargs" chosen-string ... And it relates to load-path which is used in cpu/x86/pc/olpc/security.fth and cpu/x86/pc/linux.fth (svn 1424) -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ From jvonau at shaw.ca Thu Oct 22 01:53:53 2009 From: jvonau at shaw.ca (Jerry Vonau) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:53:53 -0500 Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 32 In-Reply-To: <20091022012032.GB30986@us.netrek.org> References: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> <1255726911.3622.25.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <1256173033.3622.306.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <20091022012032.GB30986@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <1256176433.3622.327.camel@f9.vonau.ca> On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 12:20 +1100, James Cameron wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 07:57:13PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 05:13 -0400, John Watlington wrote: [?] > > > The expected usage model for an XO is that if there is a bootable > > > image on the external SD card or USB, it will be booted. If you > > > want to boot from the internal SD card, either remove the external SD > > > card or the bootable image installed on it. > > > > > > I don't think we want to change this model. > > > > > > This is currently broken, due to the way that the kernel names > > > devices. I believe that the proposed solution was to use udev > > > in the initramfs image to provide stable names. > > > > Think the key here is to use something like set-bootpath-dev in livecd's > > olpc.fth to auto detect where the olpc.fth was picked up (booted?) from. > > This is reflected in /ofw/chosen/bootpath, can some one short-cut me to > > the source in ofw? > > Not *quite* sure what you are after, but bootpath is in > ofw/core/bootparm.fth > I've been playing around booting my XO with and without an external SD card. If I boot the external card, the internal on get mounted as / based on root=/dev/mmcblk0p2. While /ofw/chosen/bootpath recalls which device used as the source for the olpc.fth file. With internal only: pci/sd at c/disk at 1:\boot\vmlinuz With both external/internal pci/sd at c/disk at 2:\boot\vmlinuz I was thinking that if we could parse bootpath, kind of like livecd-to-disk does with this... : set-bootpath-dev ( -- ) " /chosen" find-package if ( phandle ) " bootpath" rot get-package-property 0= if ( propval$ ) get-encoded-string ( bootpath$ ) [char] \ left-parse-string 2nip ( dn$ ) dn-buf place ( ) then then " /sd" dn-buf count sindex 0>= if " sd:" else " u:" then " BOOTPATHDEV" $set-macro just with a different strings to tell the difference between the internal and external SD cards. > ... > > d# 1024 buffer: path-buf > headers > ' path-buf " bootpath" chosen-string > headerless > d# 1024 buffer: args-buf > headers > ' args-buf " bootargs" chosen-string > > ... > > And it relates to load-path which is used in > cpu/x86/pc/olpc/security.fth and > cpu/x86/pc/linux.fth > > (svn 1424) Thanks, will dig more. Jerry From quozl at laptop.org Thu Oct 22 02:26:04 2009 From: quozl at laptop.org (James Cameron) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:26:04 +1100 Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 32 [#9457] In-Reply-To: <1256176433.3622.327.camel@f9.vonau.ca> References: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> <1255726911.3622.25.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <1256173033.3622.306.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <20091022012032.GB30986@us.netrek.org> <1256176433.3622.327.camel@f9.vonau.ca> Message-ID: <20091022022604.GB5506@us.netrek.org> This appears to be #9457, so I've adjusted the subject line slightly. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 08:53:53PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 12:20 +1100, James Cameron wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 07:57:13PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 05:13 -0400, John Watlington wrote: [?] > > > > The expected usage model for an XO is that if there is a bootable > > > > image on the external SD card or USB, it will be booted. If you > > > > want to boot from the internal SD card, either remove the external SD > > > > card or the bootable image installed on it. > > > > > > > > I don't think we want to change this model. > > > > > > > > This is currently broken, due to the way that the kernel names > > > > devices. I believe that the proposed solution was to use udev > > > > in the initramfs image to provide stable names. > > > > > > Think the key here is to use something like set-bootpath-dev in livecd's > > > olpc.fth to auto detect where the olpc.fth was picked up (booted?) from. > > > This is reflected in /ofw/chosen/bootpath, can some one short-cut me to > > > the source in ofw? > > > > Not *quite* sure what you are after, but bootpath is in > > ofw/core/bootparm.fth > > I've been playing around booting my XO with and without an external SD > card. If I boot the external card, the internal on get mounted as / > based on root=/dev/mmcblk0p2. While /ofw/chosen/bootpath recalls which > device used as the source for the olpc.fth file. Could you have a read of #9457 in case what you have discovered is fully covered by that bug? http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9457 > I was thinking that if we could parse bootpath, kind of like > livecd-to-disk does with this... > > just with a different strings to tell the difference between the > internal and external SD cards. I'm not sure how that would work, sorry. It seems the issue is also that the kernel chooses a name unpredictably. Have a look at the discussion on #9457. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ From jvonau at shaw.ca Thu Oct 22 18:23:12 2009 From: jvonau at shaw.ca (Jerry Vonau) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:23:12 -0500 Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 32 [#9457] In-Reply-To: <20091022022604.GB5506@us.netrek.org> References: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> <1255726911.3622.25.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <1256173033.3622.306.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <20091022012032.GB30986@us.netrek.org> <1256176433.3622.327.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <20091022022604.GB5506@us.netrek.org> Message-ID: <1256235792.3622.345.camel@f9.vonau.ca> On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:26 +1100, James Cameron wrote: > This appears to be #9457, so I've adjusted the subject line slightly. > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 08:53:53PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 12:20 +1100, James Cameron wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 07:57:13PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 05:13 -0400, John Watlington wrote: [?] > > > > > The expected usage model for an XO is that if there is a bootable > > > > > image on the external SD card or USB, it will be booted. If you > > > > > want to boot from the internal SD card, either remove the external SD > > > > > card or the bootable image installed on it. > > > > > > > > > > I don't think we want to change this model. > > > > > > > > > > This is currently broken, due to the way that the kernel names > > > > > devices. I believe that the proposed solution was to use udev > > > > > in the initramfs image to provide stable names. > > > > > > > > Think the key here is to use something like set-bootpath-dev in livecd's > > > > olpc.fth to auto detect where the olpc.fth was picked up (booted?) from. > > > > This is reflected in /ofw/chosen/bootpath, can some one short-cut me to > > > > the source in ofw? > > > > > > Not *quite* sure what you are after, but bootpath is in > > > ofw/core/bootparm.fth > > > > I've been playing around booting my XO with and without an external SD > > card. If I boot the external card, the internal on get mounted as / > > based on root=/dev/mmcblk0p2. While /ofw/chosen/bootpath recalls which > > device used as the source for the olpc.fth file. > > Could you have a read of #9457 in case what you have discovered is fully > covered by that bug? http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9457 > Yea, think that about covers it... The only thing I have not tried is to disable the internal mmc card. I thought there are udev rules in place to keep the slot naming consistent. > > I was thinking that if we could parse bootpath, kind of like > > livecd-to-disk does with this... > > > > just with a different strings to tell the difference between the > > internal and external SD cards. > > I'm not sure how that would work, sorry. It seems the issue is also > that the kernel chooses a name unpredictably. Have a look at the > discussion on #9457. > I've updated http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/olpc.fth I have this running here, installed on both the internal and external mmc cards, both work as expected. Now the question is, are production XO going to have an internal mmc card when shipped? I have not tested this with the internal mmc card disabled, I really don't want to open up the XO. If someone else is brave enough to test that for me that would be great. Jerry From pgf at laptop.org Thu Oct 22 18:39:00 2009 From: pgf at laptop.org (Paul Fox) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:39:00 -0400 Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 32 [#9457] In-Reply-To: <1256235792.3622.345.camel@f9.vonau.ca> (sfid-20091022_142015_086241_065812DC) References: <20091013230915.00DECFA897@dev.laptop.org> <1255726911.3622.25.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <1256173033.3622.306.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <20091022012032.GB30986@us.netrek.org> <1256176433.3622.327.camel@f9.vonau.ca> <20091022022604.GB5506@us.netrek.org> <1256235792.3622.345.camel@f9.vonau.ca> (sfid-20091022_142015_086241_065812DC) Message-ID: <29780.1256236740@foxharp.boston.ma.us> jerry wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:26 +1100, James Cameron wrote: > > This appears to be #9457, so I've adjusted the subject line slightly. > > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 08:53:53PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 12:20 +1100, James Cameron wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 07:57:13PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 05:13 -0400, John Watlington wrote: [?] > > > > > > The expected usage model for an XO is that if there is a bootable > > > > > > image on the external SD card or USB, it will be booted. If you > > > > > > want to boot from the internal SD card, either remove the external SD > > > > > > card or the bootable image installed on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think we want to change this model. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is currently broken, due to the way that the kernel names > > > > > > devices. I believe that the proposed solution was to use udev > > > > > > in the initramfs image to provide stable names. > > > > > > > > > > Think the key here is to use something like set-bootpath-dev in livecd's > > > > > olpc.fth to auto detect where the olpc.fth was picked up (booted?) from. > > > > > This is reflected in /ofw/chosen/bootpath, can some one short-cut me to > > > > > the source in ofw? > > > > > > > > Not *quite* sure what you are after, but bootpath is in > > > > ofw/core/bootparm.fth > > > > > > I've been playing around booting my XO with and without an external SD > > > card. If I boot the external card, the internal on get mounted as / > > > based on root=/dev/mmcblk0p2. While /ofw/chosen/bootpath recalls which > > > device used as the source for the olpc.fth file. > > > > Could you have a read of #9457 in case what you have discovered is fully > > covered by that bug? http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9457 > > > Yea, think that about covers it... The only thing I have not tried is to > disable the internal mmc card. I thought there are udev rules in place > to keep the slot naming consistent. no, not yet. > > > > I was thinking that if we could parse bootpath, kind of like > > > livecd-to-disk does with this... > > > > > > just with a different strings to tell the difference between the > > > internal and external SD cards. > > > > I'm not sure how that would work, sorry. It seems the issue is also > > that the kernel chooses a name unpredictably. Have a look at the > > discussion on #9457. > > > I've updated http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/olpc.fth > > I have this running here, installed on both the internal and external > mmc cards, both work as expected. Now the question is, are production XO > going to have an internal mmc card when shipped? certainly. it's the only internal storage. > I have not tested this > with the internal mmc card disabled, I really don't want to open up the > XO. If someone else is brave enough to test that for me that would be > great. it may attempt to boot without an internal card, but i don't think it will be successful because of the naming issue. paul =--------------------- paul fox, pgf at laptop.org From mikus at bga.com Thu Oct 22 17:52:55 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:52:55 -0400 Subject: F11 wired vs. jabber Message-ID: <4AE09BF7.2060202@bga.com> I don't have wireless (i.e., no AP), but use a local ethernet LAN. When I boot a F11 system, usually Neighborhood View shows me the (running) XOs connected to my ethernet. But sometimes what I see is the XOs connected to the Jabber server I have defined. To reach that Jabber server, the connection has to go over the ethernet, through a proxy (I had to tell telepathy that the proxy exists), and then over the internet. [I am leaving the Jabber server name in 'My Settings' -- I am not adding/removing it dynamically.] Which set of XOs I get to see seems to be random. [Still happens that way both on XO-1 and on XO-1.5.] Any ideas on how, with my setup, I could "favor" seeing jabber over seeing wired ? Thanks, mikus From gary at garycmartin.com Fri Oct 23 01:09:39 2009 From: gary at garycmartin.com (Gary C Martin) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:09:39 +0100 Subject: F11 wired vs. jabber In-Reply-To: <4AE09BF7.2060202@bga.com> References: <4AE09BF7.2060202@bga.com> Message-ID: Hi Mikus, On 22 Oct 2009, at 18:52, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > I don't have wireless (i.e., no AP), but use a local ethernet LAN. > When I boot a F11 system, usually Neighborhood View shows me the > (running) XOs connected to my ethernet. But sometimes what I see is > the XOs connected to the Jabber server I have defined. To reach > that Jabber server, the connection has to go over the ethernet, > through a proxy (I had to tell telepathy that the proxy exists), and > then over the internet. [I am leaving the Jabber server name in 'My > Settings' -- I am not adding/removing it dynamically.] > > Which set of XOs I get to see seems to be random. [Still happens > that way both on XO-1 and on XO-1.5.] Any ideas on how, with my > setup, I could "favor" seeing jabber over seeing wired ? Not that this helps, but Salut (local network) is the fallback when Gabble (remote jabber server) fails, so if you have a jabber server set, and it intermittently shows you remote vs. loca buddiesl, then the jabber connection is intermittently failing. If a jabber server is specified Gabble attempts to connect from time to time (not sure where the actual code is but it feels like 5-10min to me). So (for whatever reason) sounds like Gabble isn't able to hold up the connection to the Jabber server, or the Jabber server you have set is flakey (FWIW: jabber.sugarlabs.org has been ropey as hell for me lately, I switched my collaboration testing to Salute some weeks back so I could have more Sugar testing control and less random remote server failures/issues). Regards, --Gary > Thanks, mikus > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-olpc-list mailing list > Fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list From martin.langhoff at gmail.com Fri Oct 23 16:43:31 2009 From: martin.langhoff at gmail.com (Martin Langhoff) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:43:31 +0200 Subject: PolicyKit dependency chain for headless machines Message-ID: <46a038f90910230943u616913c1i464af308ff0d58ae@mail.gmail.com> Working on the OLPC XS rebase to F11 -- I end up with random bits of gnome and kde, brought in by PolicyKit, which wants a PolicyKit-authentication-agent. Yum only seems to know of KDE and Gnome authentication-agents. How does PK handle users logging in in a VT? What is the authentication agent there? cheers, m -- martin.langhoff at gmail.com martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff From dsd at laptop.org Sun Oct 25 12:07:47 2009 From: dsd at laptop.org (Daniel Drake) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:52:47 +0545 Subject: PolicyKit dependency chain for headless machines In-Reply-To: <46a038f90910230943u616913c1i464af308ff0d58ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <46a038f90910230943u616913c1i464af308ff0d58ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <818423da0910250507s14576982q2aa87a726602a74c@mail.gmail.com> 2009/10/23 Martin Langhoff : > Working on the OLPC XS rebase to F11 -- I end up with random bits of > gnome and kde, brought in by PolicyKit, which wants a > PolicyKit-authentication-agent. > > Yum only seems to know of KDE and Gnome authentication-agents. > > How does PK handle users logging in in a VT? What is the > authentication agent there? The authentication agent is used only when a specific application requests an operation which the local authority has marked as requiring authorization. It is not used when logging in. I don't know of any command line applications that make policykit requests, and I don't know of any commandline authentication agents. Daniel From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 25 12:47:26 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:47:26 +0100 Subject: PolicyKit dependency chain for headless machines In-Reply-To: <818423da0910250507s14576982q2aa87a726602a74c@mail.gmail.com> References: <46a038f90910230943u616913c1i464af308ff0d58ae@mail.gmail.com> <818423da0910250507s14576982q2aa87a726602a74c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d319b780910250547u520d78a8ne50e1fd5a44bc102@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 13:07, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/10/23 Martin Langhoff : >> Working on the OLPC XS rebase to F11 -- I end up with random bits of >> gnome and kde, brought in by PolicyKit, which wants a >> PolicyKit-authentication-agent. >> >> Yum only seems to know of KDE and Gnome authentication-agents. >> >> How does PK handle users logging in in a VT? What is the >> authentication agent there? > > The authentication agent is used only when a specific application > requests an operation which the local authority has marked as > requiring authorization. It is not used when logging in. I don't know > of any command line applications that make policykit requests, and I > don't know of any commandline authentication agents. pkcon is a command line tool to install/update/remove packages with PackageKit. It uses PolicyKit, and thus might use some authentication agent. No idea how it does that though. ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From mikus at bga.com Mon Oct 26 00:33:14 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:33:14 -0400 Subject: os33 - video regression ? Message-ID: <4AE4EE4A.3080400@bga.com> When I try to run mplayer on os33 with the parameters that I use on the XO-1, the XO-1.5 shows a bright green screen and locks up completely (all that I can do is power off). I have to explicitly tell mplayer to use the 'x11' driver (i.e., *no* implied acceleration) in order to see a "moving picture" in os33 with mplayer. [IIRC, previously on os32 my mplayer with the XO-1 parameters had worked, but jerkily.] Also, though it may be a function of network congestion / source quality, but my impression is that with os33 YouTube is "jerkier" than I remember from os32. mikus From cjb at laptop.org Mon Oct 26 04:42:07 2009 From: cjb at laptop.org (Chris Ball) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 33 Message-ID: <20091026044207.18823FA8DB@dev.laptop.org> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os33 Compressed image size: 395.64mb (-0.54mb since build 32) Description of changes in this build: * switch to 16-bit color mode for consistency with the kernel and OFW * kernel now keeps the display working after a suspend/resume (with >Q3A14) * attempt to change root fs from ext4 to ext3, to avoid corruption (#9513) Package changes since build 32: -DeviceKit-disks-004-4.fc11.i586 +DeviceKit-disks-004-5.fc11.i586 -NetworkManager-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.i586 +NetworkManager-0.7.1.997-1.fc11.i586 -NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.i586 +NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1.997-1.fc11.i586 -NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.i586 +NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1.997-1.fc11.i586 -at-3.1.10-31.fc11.i586 +at-3.1.10-32.fc11.i586 -audit-1.7.14-1.fc11.i586 +audit-1.7.16-1.fc11.i586 -audit-libs-1.7.14-1.fc11.i586 +audit-libs-1.7.16-1.fc11.i586 -boost-1.37.0-7.fc11.i586 +boost-1.37.0-8.fc11.i586 -dhclient-4.1.0p1-4.fc11.i586 +dhclient-4.1.0p1-5.fc11.i586 -etoys-4.0.2319-1.fc11.noarch +etoys-4.0.2332-1.fc11.noarch -fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch +fontpackages-filesystem-1.28-1.fc11.noarch -gnumeric-1.8.4-2.fc11.i586 +gnumeric-1.8.4-3.fc11.i586 -gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-1.fc11.i586 +gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-2.fc11.i586 -gvfs-1.2.3-12.fc11.i586 +gvfs-1.2.3-13.fc11.i586 -gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-12.fc11.i586 +gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-13.fc11.i586 -kernel-2.6.30_xo1.5-20091009.1746.1.olpc.69c8c87.i586 +kernel-2.6.30_xo1.5-20091022.1416.1.olpc.3517a05.i586 -kernel-firmware-2.6.30_xo1.5-20091009.1746.1.olpc.69c8c87.i586 +kernel-firmware-2.6.30_xo1.5-20091022.1416.1.olpc.3517a05.i586 -libpurple-2.6.2-1.fc11.i586 +libpurple-2.6.3-2.fc11.i586 -libv4l-0.6.1-1.fc11.i586 +libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc11.i586 -mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20090707-1.fc11.noarch +mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20090918-1.fc11.noarch -nfs-utils-1.2.0-5.fc11.i586 +nfs-utils-1.2.0-6.fc11.i586 -olpc-utils-1.0.3-2.fc11.i586 +olpc-utils-1.0.3-3.fc11.i586 -quota-3.17-4.fc11.i586 +quota-3.17-5.fc11.i586 -setup-2.8.3-1.fc11.noarch +setup-2.8.3-3.fc11.noarch -shared-mime-info-0.60-3.fc11.i586 +shared-mime-info-0.60-4.fc11.i586 -smartmontools-5.38-14.fc11.i586 +smartmontools-5.38-18.fc11.i586 -tzdata-2009m-2.fc11.noarch +tzdata-2009o-1.fc11.noarch -xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.2.5-1.fc11.i586 +xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.2.6-1.fc11.i586 -xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.903-16.fc11.i586 +xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-1.fc11.1.i586 From sdaly.be at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 14:34:18 2009 From: sdaly.be at gmail.com (Sean DALY) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:34:18 +0100 Subject: os33 - video regression ? In-Reply-To: <4AE4EE4A.3080400@bga.com> References: <4AE4EE4A.3080400@bga.com> Message-ID: <378b2b050910260734g81558f8n32dab2234006d6d9@mail.gmail.com> YouTube video can be encapsulated H.264, On2 VP6, or the older Sorenson Spark. So it's important to try to test the same file. H.264, the most recent addition, is very processor-intensive... Sean On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > When I try to run mplayer on os33 with the parameters that I use on the > XO-1, the XO-1.5 shows a bright green screen and locks up completely (all > that I can do is power off). I have to explicitly tell mplayer to use the > 'x11' driver (i.e., *no* implied acceleration) in order to see a "moving > picture" in os33 with mplayer. [IIRC, previously on os32 my mplayer with > the XO-1 parameters had worked, but jerkily.] > > Also, though it may be a function of network congestion / source quality, > but my impression is that with os33 YouTube is "jerkier" than I remember > from os32. > > mikus > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-olpc-list mailing list > Fedora-olpc-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list > From mikus at bga.com Mon Oct 26 21:37:37 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:37:37 -0400 Subject: os33 - video regression ? Message-ID: <4AE616A1.8030508@bga.com> > YouTube video can be encapsulated H.264, On2 VP6, or the older > Sorenson Spark. So it's important to try to test the same file. Where you are coming from appears to differ from where I am coming from. I am looking at the XO from the point of view of "How usable is this?" That question does not necessarily involve precise measurement -- evaluation ought to suffice. In my mind I did not volunteer to be a formal "tester". If you want me to be, please publish a formal *specification* consisting of 'shalls' -- i.e., the XO __shall__ properly render H.264 videos, the XO __shall__ without visual aberrations play back videos using an on-screen picture size of at least 14.67 cm by 11 cm, etc., etc. *Then* I will develop a "test suite", which I will run against every new beta that comes along (to "check off" which 'shalls' are being met). mikus From quozl at laptop.org Mon Oct 26 23:05:53 2009 From: quozl at laptop.org (James Cameron) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:05:53 +1100 Subject: os33 - video regression ? In-Reply-To: <4AE616A1.8030508@bga.com> References: <4AE616A1.8030508@bga.com> Message-ID: <20091026230553.GY3763@us.netrek.org> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 05:37:37PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > > YouTube video can be encapsulated H.264, On2 VP6, or the older > > Sorenson Spark. So it's important to try to test the same file. > > Where you are coming from appears to differ from where I am coming > from. I am looking at the XO from the point of view of "How usable > is this?" That question does not necessarily involve precise > measurement -- evaluation ought to suffice. I agree. Especially as you observed a regression from one version to another. You went on to mention formal specifications. Maintenance of a sufficiently comprehensive test specification would be a huge effort. One would also have to select representative videos and ensure they remain available during the testing without uncontrolled revision by third-parties. Controlling for YouTube's transcoding ... which we don't influence ... would be quite amazing. I'm curious to know if it was the change in #9538 that caused the regression. Could you temporarily change the display depth back to what it was and see if that restores the original behaviour? General comment on the typical "have you logged this?" response we tend to get ... I've no trouble with hearing from people who have taken the time to write about their experiences with an XO ... if they don't have the time to log a ticket and engage in the formal process, that's their decision. If other readers here don't attempt to reproduce and create a ticket, then they mustn't think it is important enough to fix. ;-) -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ From mikus at bga.com Tue Oct 27 02:42:10 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:42:10 -0400 Subject: os33 - video regression ? Message-ID: <4AE65E02.10502@bga.com> James wrote: > I'm curious to know if it was the change in #9538 that caused the > regression. Could you temporarily change the display depth back to > what it was and see if that restores the original behaviour? I'd love to. But I don't know how to do that. Changing the 'Depth' in "Screen" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf did not cause the "playing movies locks the system" problem to go away. > General comment on the typical "have you logged this?" response we tend > to get ... I've no trouble with hearing from people who have taken the > time to write about their experiences with an XO ... if they don't have > the time to log a ticket and engage in the formal process, that's their > decision. If other readers here don't attempt to reproduce and create a > ticket, then they mustn't think it is important enough to fix. ;-) From my point of view, the hang has already been logged as #9407. I think poor "moving pictures" is __the__ problem with the XO-1.5. Therefore I'm willing to put effort into documenting that which is happening (and into testing fixes, if someone were kind enough to give me something I can try). But this is a hang - which leaves the XO-1.5 completely unresponsive to operator input (except for the power button). So I do not have my normal opportunity to capture file contents, etc. They are wiped out by the reboot I perform to access the system again. I think Martin mentioned he was able to get in to the hung system with SSH. I have basically never used SSH -- so I would have to do a lot of learning before I could use that to obtain better information than I have now (I wrote all I knew in my post). mikus From jon.nettleton at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 05:20:24 2009 From: jon.nettleton at gmail.com (Jon Nettleton) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:20:24 -0700 Subject: os33 - video regression ? In-Reply-To: <4AE65E02.10502@bga.com> References: <4AE65E02.10502@bga.com> Message-ID: <1256620824.4839.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 22:42 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > James wrote: > But this is a hang - which leaves the XO-1.5 completely unresponsive > to operator input (except for the power button). So I do not have > my normal opportunity to capture file contents, etc. They are wiped > out by the reboot I perform to access the system again. > > I think Martin mentioned he was able to get in to the hung system > with SSH. I have basically never used SSH -- so I would have to do > a lot of learning before I could use that to obtain better > information than I have now (I wrote all I knew in my post). > The XV hard lock is being caused by a while loop in the Flip function. I am looking into additional changes that need to be done to the code to support XV on the VX855 chipset. This should resolve general video playback, but will not have any effect on Flash based video. Flash Video only supports accelerated video using OpenGL, everything else is strictly done on the CPU. In the future we will hopefully get better video playback, but can not get docs for VIA's MPEG4 engine due to patent restrictions. This means that 3d acceleration will be the best option available to us. That is still way out in the future on our feature timeline. Hope that helps to clear things up. Jon From jon.nettleton at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 15:03:10 2009 From: jon.nettleton at gmail.com (Jon Nettleton) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:03:10 -0700 Subject: os33 - video regression ? In-Reply-To: <242851610910270323l7094a7f2gc6ef3cc7c96fd61d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AE65E02.10502@bga.com> <1256620824.4839.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <242851610910270323l7094a7f2gc6ef3cc7c96fd61d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1256655790.4839.184.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:23 +0000, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > Is true what is suggested in this ticket? That Adobe Flash stopped > using Xv in a minor release in the v9 series? > > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5408 > To the best of my knowledge Flash has never supported the XVideo extension. The reason for this is that Xv scales YUV data and Flash uses RGB data. Now could this be converted and scaled absolutely, but Adobe has decided they are not going down that road. My guess as to the minor release performance slow down, is that the linux flash player gained Mpeg-4 video support in that release. H.264 is much more processor intensive and would explain the performance problems seen after the upgrade. This same release was also the first release that supported the Xembed protocol. Some inefficiency there could also have created the video performance problem. Hope that helps to clear up the playing field. Jon From NoiseEHC at freemail.hu Tue Oct 27 17:57:00 2009 From: NoiseEHC at freemail.hu (NoiseEHC) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:57:00 +0100 Subject: os33 - video regression ? In-Reply-To: <1256655790.4839.184.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4AE65E02.10502@bga.com> <1256620824.4839.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <242851610910270323l7094a7f2gc6ef3cc7c96fd61d@mail.gmail.com> <1256655790.4839.184.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4AE7346C.9030603@freemail.hu> > To the best of my knowledge Flash has never supported the XVideo > extension. The reason for this is that Xv scales YUV data and Flash > uses RGB data. Now could this be converted and scaled absolutely, but > Adobe has decided they are not going down that road. > Xv can blit both YUV and RGB data to the overlay. I do not know why do not they support Xv but this cannot be the reason... From jon.nettleton at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 18:28:15 2009 From: jon.nettleton at gmail.com (Jon Nettleton) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:28:15 -0700 Subject: os33 - video regression ? In-Reply-To: <4AE7346C.9030603@freemail.hu> References: <4AE65E02.10502@bga.com> <1256620824.4839.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <242851610910270323l7094a7f2gc6ef3cc7c96fd61d@mail.gmail.com> <1256655790.4839.184.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4AE7346C.9030603@freemail.hu> Message-ID: <1256668095.4839.185.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 18:57 +0100, NoiseEHC wrote: > > To the best of my knowledge Flash has never supported the XVideo > > extension. The reason for this is that Xv scales YUV data and Flash > > uses RGB data. Now could this be converted and scaled absolutely, but > > Adobe has decided they are not going down that road. > > > Xv can blit both YUV and RGB data to the overlay. I do not know why do > not they support Xv but this cannot be the reason... http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/05/flash_uses_the_gpu.html Down under FAQ. Jon From cjb at laptop.org Tue Oct 27 21:36:11 2009 From: cjb at laptop.org (Chris Ball) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:36:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 34 Message-ID: <20091027213611.B7C92FA8DC@dev.laptop.org> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os34 Compressed image size: 405.48mb (+9.83mb since build 33) Description of changes in this build: * First shot at Chinese language keyboard support from Sayamindu (#9541) Package changes since build 33: +cjkuni-uming-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-26.fc11.noarch -csound-5.10.1-12.fc11.i586 +csound-5.10.1-13.fc11.i586 -geoclue-0.11.1.1-0.6.20090310git3a31d26.fc11.i586 +geoclue-0.11.1.1-0.9.1.20091026git73b6729.fc11.i586 -gnumeric-1.8.4-3.fc11.i586 +gnumeric-1.8.4-5.fc11.i586 -goffice-0.6.6-2.fc11.i586 +goffice-0.6.6-4.fc11.i586 -gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-2.fc11.i586 +gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc11.i586 -jasper-libs-1.900.1-10.fc11.i586 +jasper-libs-1.900.1-13.fc11.i586 -libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc11.i586 +libv4l-0.6.3-1.fc11.i586 -pciutils-3.1.4-2.fc11.i586 +pciutils-3.1.4-3.fc11.i586 -pciutils-libs-3.1.4-2.fc11.i586 +pciutils-libs-3.1.4-3.fc11.i586 -poppler-0.10.7-2.fc11.i586 +poppler-0.10.7-3.fc11.i586 -poppler-glib-0.10.7-2.fc11.i586 +poppler-glib-0.10.7-3.fc11.i586 -quota-3.17-5.fc11.i586 +quota-3.17-6.fc11.i586 -totem-2.26.3-6.fc11.i586 +totem-2.26.4-2.fc11.i586 -totem-gstreamer-2.26.3-6.fc11.i586 +totem-gstreamer-2.26.4-2.fc11.i586 -totem-mozplugin-2.26.3-6.fc11.i586 +totem-mozplugin-2.26.4-2.fc11.i586 -tzdata-2009o-1.fc11.noarch +tzdata-2009o-2.fc11.noarch -xkeyboard-config-1.5-5.fc11.noarch +xkeyboard-config-1.5-7.fc11.noarch From mikus at bga.com Sat Oct 31 13:20:27 2009 From: mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:20:27 -0400 Subject: soas04xo behavior on XO-1 Message-ID: <4AEC399B.1070602@bga.com> I'm booting soas04xo from nand on an XO-1. For me, alt-tab does not work to switch between activity sessions - I have to use the icons in Frame top right to switch between Activities. But I've customized my system, so I don't know if this is a sugar problem, or my problem. Please, would someone try soas04xo and see if alt-tab works for him? Thanks, mikus From sebastian at when.com Sat Oct 31 14:34:46 2009 From: sebastian at when.com (Sebastian Dziallas) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:34:46 +0100 Subject: soas04xo behavior on XO-1 In-Reply-To: <4AEC399B.1070602@bga.com> References: <4AEC399B.1070602@bga.com> Message-ID: <4AEC4B06.4060503@when.com> Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > I'm booting soas04xo from nand on an XO-1. For me, alt-tab does not > work to switch between activity sessions - I have to use the icons > in Frame top right to switch between Activities. But I've > customized my system, so I don't know if this is a sugar problem, or > my problem. > > > Please, would someone try soas04xo and see if alt-tab works for him? Doesn't work for me, either. Strange. I'm not able to do so in a virtual machine using the general image, either. Does anybody know whether that's an intentional change or probably some kind of regression? > Thanks, mikus --Sebastian From walter.bender at gmail.com Sat Oct 31 14:48:29 2009 From: walter.bender at gmail.com (Walter Bender) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:48:29 -0400 Subject: soas04xo behavior on XO-1 In-Reply-To: <4AEC4B06.4060503@when.com> References: <4AEC399B.1070602@bga.com> <4AEC4B06.4060503@when.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> I'm booting soas04xo from nand on an XO-1. ?For me, alt-tab does not >> work to switch between activity sessions - I have to use the icons >> in Frame top right to switch between Activities. ?But I've >> customized my system, so I don't know if this is a sugar problem, or >> my problem. >> >> >> Please, would someone try soas04xo and see if alt-tab works for him? > > Doesn't work for me, either. Strange. > > I'm not able to do so in a virtual machine using the general image, > either. Does anybody know whether that's an intentional change or > probably some kind of regression? Regression. :( -walter >> Thanks, mikus > > --Sebastian > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel at lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org