From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Fri May 2 07:01:41 2008 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:01:41 +0800 Subject: anybody know a good tutorial for Pigment Python ? Message-ID: ^^^ Any good tutorials and code examples out there for getting the basics to get started with Pigment ?? -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From kylev at kylev.com Fri May 2 19:24:56 2008 From: kylev at kylev.com (Kyle VanderBeek) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:24:56 -0700 Subject: packaged Pylons, ready to use In-Reply-To: <20080430155439.GA3462@x300> References: <20080410174917.GQ22494@kylev.com> <20080430155439.GA3462@x300> Message-ID: <20080502192456.GM22494@kylev.com> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:54:39AM -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > Thanks for packaging these, Kyle. It would be great to get these into > Fedora, seeing as how TurboGears2 (the web framework that we use for > most of our infrastructure) is based on Pylons. Submitted for review, along with all its dependencies. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445028 -- kylev at kylev.com Some people have a way with words, while others... erm... thingy. From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Tue May 13 13:42:47 2008 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:42:47 -0400 Subject: paver Message-ID: <200805130942.47549.ndbecker2@gmail.com> This 'paver' sounds interesting. Anyone looked at this? http://www.blueskyonmars.com/projects/paver/getting_started.html#gettingstarted From poelstra at redhat.com Thu May 15 20:23:06 2008 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:23:06 -0700 Subject: TurboGears Newbie Advice Message-ID: <482C9BAA.9040904@redhat.com> Any recommended books or tutorials or other good ways to get started with TurboGears--beyond the tutorials at http://docs.turbogears.org/ ? The book by Mark Ramm, etc. gets really mixed reviews at Amazon. Thanks, John From a.badger at gmail.com Thu May 15 20:47:15 2008 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:47:15 -0700 Subject: TurboGears Newbie Advice In-Reply-To: <482C9BAA.9040904@redhat.com> References: <482C9BAA.9040904@redhat.com> Message-ID: <482CA153.5040201@gmail.com> John Poelstra wrote: > Any recommended books or tutorials or other good ways to get started > with TurboGears--beyond the tutorials at http://docs.turbogears.org/ ? > The book by Mark Ramm, etc. gets really mixed reviews at Amazon. > The TurboGears book has both good points and bad points. You won't be sorry you own it if you have it but it isn't the end-all-be-all either. If you use sqlalchemy instead of sqlobject, then what you need for a model is *very* well documented at http://www.sqlalchemy.org/. So despite the fact that sqlobject is somewhat easier to use, i'd highly recommend sqlalchemy for this reason alone. For tutorials, I'm not sure what's out there... I started with tg-admin quickstart and then adapting the project to see what worked and what didn't. I liked having good reference material when I did that -- sqlalchemy.org, genshi.edgewall.org, cherrypy.org, and some turbogears.org. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From python at venix.com Thu May 15 21:11:40 2008 From: python at venix.com (Lloyd Kvam) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:11:40 -0400 Subject: TurboGears Newbie Advice In-Reply-To: <482C9BAA.9040904@redhat.com> References: <482C9BAA.9040904@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1210885900.8779.154.camel@localhost.localdomain> The source code in the book is riddled with typos. I don't know if the downloads have been fixed. The examples are useful. There is very little reference material. I bought the book and have found it useful - to the extent I would buy it again even knowing the problems. The different component (cherrypy, sqlalchemy, etc.) websites generally do a good job of documenting the details. This book describes how the pieces fit together. It fails miserably as a reference. A typical example: the expose decorator is used to mark a method to be exposed as a URL. The examples show: @expose(template='myapp.templates.mytemp') def mymethod(self, **params): ... However, if the template is determined at run time, you need to specify that in the dictionary that is returned by the method. return dict( tg_template='myapp.templates.othertemp', ... You'll figure out the the dictionary key is different from the expose parameter name, but it would be nice if there were a few reference summaries in the book to cover issues like that. You will still be relying heavily on the different component web sites On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 13:23 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > Any recommended books or tutorials or other good ways to get started > with TurboGears--beyond the tutorials at http://docs.turbogears.org/ ? > The book by Mark Ramm, etc. gets really mixed reviews at Amazon. > > Thanks, > John > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-python-devel-list mailing list > Fedora-python-devel-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-python-devel-list -- Lloyd Kvam Venix Corp DLSLUG/GNHLUG library http://www.librarything.com/catalog/dlslug http://www.librarything.com/profile/dlslug http://www.librarything.com/rsshtml/recent/dlslug From lmacken at redhat.com Fri May 30 21:10:39 2008 From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:10:39 -0400 Subject: TurboGears Newbie Advice In-Reply-To: <482C9BAA.9040904@redhat.com> References: <482C9BAA.9040904@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20080530211039.GD3527@x300.bos.redhat.com> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 01:23:06PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > Any recommended books or tutorials or other good ways to get started > with TurboGears--beyond the tutorials at http://docs.turbogears.org/ ? > The book by Mark Ramm, etc. gets really mixed reviews at Amazon. I personally found Mark's TG book to be a great read, even though it contains many typos. It'll give you a good understanding of how TurboGears is put together, and the components used (kid, SQLObject, CherryPy) in the book will be supported for a long time. However, TurboGears 1.1 is coming out soon, which replaces a lot of the default components: kid->genshi, SQLObject->SQLAlchemy, TG Widgets->ToscaWidgets. For someone wanting to learn TurboGears, I highly recommend diving into the 1.1 stack (which can already used in any 1.0 application already). There are a couple of SQLAlchemy books that are supposed to hit the shelves next month. One by Mark Ramm and one of the SQLAlchemy developers, and an O'Reilly one (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596516147/). Good luck! luke