From marshall at novafoundry.com Thu Jul 1 03:42:55 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:42:55 -0400 Subject: via sata kernel device Message-ID: <1088653375.4407.13.camel@grendel> Are the kernel devices for sata changing again?.. with this last kernel (459) my drive is coming up as /dev/sdd instead of /dev/hde Also.. whatever was fixed with acpi a few builds ago that let me start booting without the "acpi=off" option seems to have gone away (yeah, I know that's vague). And.. just to pile some more crap on.. :) in the 448 build (and the brief 441 build) I couldn't boot with either the "quiet" or "rhgb" options enabled.. if I did, the machine would stall when it initialized (after it initialized?) the usb controller. I can provide more detail (in bugzilla even) if you want. -- Marshall From mark.bradbury at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 05:57:30 2004 From: mark.bradbury at gmail.com (Mark Bradbury) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:27:30 +0930 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out Message-ID: Get it while its hot ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run From jdennis at redhat.com Thu Jul 1 15:00:38 2004 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:00:38 -0400 Subject: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6 Message-ID: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: dovecot-0.99.10.6-1,FC2,1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-201 2004-06-30 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : dovecot Version : 0.99.10.6 Release : 1,FC2,1 Summary : Dovecot Secure imap server Description : Dovecot is an IMAP server for Linux/UNIX-like systems, written with security primarily in mind. It also contains a small POP3 server. It supports mail in either of maildir or mbox formats. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: - bring up to date with upstream, recent change log comments from Timo Sirainen were: SHA1 password support using OpenSSL crypto library mail_extra_groups setting maildir_stat_dirs setting Added NAMESPACE capability and command Autocreate missing maildirs (instead of crashing) Fixed occational crash in maildir synchronization Fixed occational assertion crash in ioloop.c Fixed FreeBSD compiling issue Fixed issues with 64bit Solaris binary --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Jun 30 2004 John Dennis - bump rev for build * Fri Jun 25 2004 John Dennis - 0.99.10.6-1 - bring up to date with upstream, recent change log comments from Timo Sirainen were: SHA1 password support using OpenSSL crypto library mail_extra_groups setting maildir_stat_dirs setting Added NAMESPACE capability and command Autocreate missing maildirs (instead of crashing) Fixed occational crash in maildir synchronization Fixed occational assertion crash in ioloop.c Fixed FreeBSD compiling issue Fixed issues with 64bit Solaris binary * Tue Jun 15 2004 Elliot Lee - rebuilt --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 749a821b0a6da99c28b2325fade72024 SRPMS/dovecot-0.99.10.6-1,FC2,1.src.rpm 3561cd5dfa250f26a67298c7bb5c840a x86_64/dovecot-0.99.10.6-1,FC2,1.x86_64.rpm d1ee606f3f126e71e83cfefc7fa19378 x86_64/debug/dovecot-debuginfo-0.99.10.6-1,FC2,1.x86_64.rpm 5af0bae46300fb9c1b6d34424ae9f5d7 i386/dovecot-0.99.10.6-1,FC2,1.i386.rpm 847d50fcf8648960058d33d270d73d4e i386/debug/dovecot-debuginfo-0.99.10.6-1,FC2,1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- John Dennis From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu Jul 1 15:04:26 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:04:26 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: >Get it while its hot > >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x >86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory no matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the real linkage please. -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Thu Jul 1 15:13:33 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:13:33 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1088694813.11471.20.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:04, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: > >Get it while its hot > > > >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt > >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x > >86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory no > matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the real > linkage please. Try: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run This is all one line, in case your mail reader broke it up. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From MSchwartz at MedAnalytics.com Thu Jul 1 15:30:14 2004 From: MSchwartz at MedAnalytics.com (Marc Schwartz) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:30:14 -0500 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1088694813.11471.20.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088694813.11471.20.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1088695813.4734.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 10:13, Bob Chiodini wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:04, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > >Get it while its hot > > > > > >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt > > >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x > > >86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > > > Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory no > > matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the real > > linkage please. > Try: > > http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > This is all one line, in case your mail reader broke it up. You can > also navigate to the file thru www.nvidia.com -> drivers, etc. > > Bob... > > ______________________________________________________________________ Alternatively, you can use: http://tinyurl.com/2qm2r For those not familiar, www.tinyurl.com will take a long URL that would typically line-wrap and turn it into, for example, what you see above. There are other similar services available on the web. HTH, Marc Schwartz From stan at ccs.neu.edu Thu Jul 1 17:22:11 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:22:11 -0400 Subject: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6 In-Reply-To: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:00 -0400, John Dennis wrote: > Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: dovecot-0.99.10.6-1,FC2,1 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fedora Test Update Notification > FEDORA-2004-201 > 2004-06-30 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Product : Fedora Core 2 > Name : dovecot > Version : 0.99.10.6 > Release : 1,FC2,1 <---- What is this?????????????? > Summary : Dovecot Secure imap server > Description : Please don't continue using these Release strings, all it does it break things... -sb > > -- > John Dennis From jdennis at redhat.com Thu Jul 1 18:23:53 2004 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:23:53 -0400 Subject: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6 In-Reply-To: <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 13:22, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > Release : 1,FC2,1 <---- What is this?????????????? > Please don't continue using these Release strings, all it does it break > things... We've been having an internal discussion recently about how to make the release field meaningful. In the past it was typically an integer, which had no meaning in the context of multiple simultaneous distributions. In the last year or two some packages have started encoding strings into the release such as AS, RHEL3, FC1, etc. Is it this practice you are referring to in general or the specific case cited above? What specifically is breaking? No assumptions should be made about the format of the release string other than it collate correctly when presented to rpmvercmp (the comparison function in rpm which has specific well defined semantics). For what its worth, it's been noted that it is a deficiency n-v-r does not contain build information within a distribution. Using simple integers as the release yields arbitrary mappings of integers to distributions and builds(patches, errata) within a given distribution. Unfortunately we are pretty much stuck with n-v-r for historical reasons. However it is felt the r part of n-v-r can be encoded with more information while preserving n-v-r format which many utilities have come to expect. Are you experiencing a problem with a utility that is expecting the r part of n-v-r to be numeric or a utility that is not using rmpvercmp or implementing the logic in rpmvercmp? From alan at clueserver.org Thu Jul 1 17:43:18 2004 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1088695813.4734.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Marc Schwartz wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 10:13, Bob Chiodini wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:04, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > > >Get it while its hot > > > > > > > >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt > > > >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x > > > >86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > > > > > Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory no > > > matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the real > > > linkage please. > > Try: > > > > http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > > > This is all one line, in case your mail reader broke it up. You can > > also navigate to the file thru www.nvidia.com -> drivers, etc. > > > > Bob... > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Alternatively, you can use: > > http://tinyurl.com/2qm2r > > For those not familiar, www.tinyurl.com will take a long URL that would > typically line-wrap and turn it into, for example, what you see above. > There are other similar services available on the web. There are good things about this sort of service and bad things. It makes things shorter, but it also hides the contents of the url. Someone on the Applescript-users list demonstrated how the Applescript url exploit works with the tinyurl site. Thankfully I know of no such exploits that work under Linux (yet). From MSchwartz at MedAnalytics.com Thu Jul 1 18:44:26 2004 From: MSchwartz at MedAnalytics.com (Marc Schwartz) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:44:26 -0500 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1088707466.3929.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 12:43, alan wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Marc Schwartz wrote: snip > > Alternatively, you can use: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2qm2r > > > > For those not familiar, www.tinyurl.com will take a long URL that would > > typically line-wrap and turn it into, for example, what you see above. > > There are other similar services available on the web. > > There are good things about this sort of service and bad things. It makes > things shorter, but it also hides the contents of the url. > > Someone on the Applescript-users list demonstrated how the Applescript url > exploit works with the tinyurl site. > > Thankfully I know of no such exploits that work under Linux (yet). Quite true on all accounts. Of course, getting what appears to be an innocent URL in an HTML based e-mail is also subject to similar redirection, which is of course in general how 'phishing' works. One of the reasons to be wary of HTML e-mails. Marc From jorton at redhat.com Thu Jul 1 19:48:46 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:48:46 +0100 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 1 Test Update: httpd-2.0.50-1.0 Message-ID: <20040701194846.GA19417@redhat.com> Please add any feedback from testing these packages to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127088 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-203 2004-07-01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 1 Name : httpd Version : 2.0.50 Release : 1.0 Summary : Apache HTTP Server Description : Apache is a powerful, full-featured, efficient, and freely-available Web server. Apache is also the most popular Web server on the Internet. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest stable release of Apache httpd 2.0, including security fixes for a remotely triggerable memory leak (CVE CAN-2004-0493), and a buffer overflow in mod_ssl which can be triggered only by a (trusted) client certificate with a long subject DN field (CVE CAN-2004-0488). --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Thu Jul 01 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.50-1.0 - update to 2.0.50 (CVE CAN-2004-0488, CAN-2004-0493, #126864, #125047) - mod_autoindex: don't truncate output on stat() failure (#126930) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 861c7980a2b2ed152e5628917bdefe9e SRPMS/httpd-2.0.50-1.0.src.rpm 92c5ca1aaef650cf03b24b78699ce7cb x86_64/httpd-2.0.50-1.0.x86_64.rpm f9395f4dd177e35b9ba29dc5b92b2580 x86_64/httpd-devel-2.0.50-1.0.x86_64.rpm 3d10f37b6cf2a2a094073f75771c07bc x86_64/httpd-manual-2.0.50-1.0.x86_64.rpm f519f3f16d0b5eb57596bcc10f8cc755 x86_64/mod_ssl-2.0.50-1.0.x86_64.rpm d983358412e787b7820917397a37c01a x86_64/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.50-1.0.x86_64.rpm 03d5df7da18760f36da3559dbc541bbc i386/httpd-2.0.50-1.0.i386.rpm 950de3380e9f9b100a059f04711f2483 i386/httpd-devel-2.0.50-1.0.i386.rpm e5e053b6fcd794c4d47552c388060d27 i386/httpd-manual-2.0.50-1.0.i386.rpm e5a9f5027154700235c2759237aa4cea i386/mod_ssl-2.0.50-1.0.i386.rpm f52d9c9ff63d09bcc1bc2ea2161b3f7d i386/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.50-1.0.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jorton at redhat.com Thu Jul 1 19:49:10 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:49:10 +0100 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 2 Test Update: httpd-2.0.50-2.1 Message-ID: <20040701194909.GB19417@redhat.com> Please add any feedback from testing these packages to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127088 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-204 2004-07-01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : httpd Version : 2.0.50 Release : 2.1 Summary : Apache HTTP Server Description : Apache is a powerful, full-featured, efficient, and freely-available Web server. Apache is also the most popular Web server on the Internet. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest stable release of Apache httpd 2.0, including security fixes for a remotely triggerable memory leak (CVE CAN-2004-0493), and a buffer overflow in mod_ssl which can be triggered only by a (trusted) client certificate with a long subject DN field (CVE CAN-2004-0488). --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Jun 29 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.50-2.1 - update to 2.0.50 - mod_autoindex: don't truncate output on stat() failure (#126930) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 2622802826df39dcb561a271f92d629c SRPMS/httpd-2.0.50-2.1.src.rpm 239e628ec5bdaad97be6d221788634fc x86_64/httpd-2.0.50-2.1.x86_64.rpm 9073b6050dfa1722272c12df348d3dfd x86_64/httpd-devel-2.0.50-2.1.x86_64.rpm f292346b1baea5f036c4e455f2ee8025 x86_64/httpd-manual-2.0.50-2.1.x86_64.rpm afbba189677f369f2daaca7df63a8f3a x86_64/mod_ssl-2.0.50-2.1.x86_64.rpm 8f336265d372d4c64f0351d9a4cca086 x86_64/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.50-2.1.x86_64.rpm 6ff335075c8dda517974df72673b5e37 i386/httpd-2.0.50-2.1.i386.rpm b014fd09a1d1e1e37e18f4782b957cc1 i386/httpd-devel-2.0.50-2.1.i386.rpm d099f806f16b0a83f6f782dbc12ee09b i386/httpd-manual-2.0.50-2.1.i386.rpm c88d9b4f6a4a1866cfbbccbbf6494c0a i386/mod_ssl-2.0.50-2.1.i386.rpm dbdeaf46a818bafb816b29672bb4cea6 i386/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.50-2.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu Jul 1 20:18:07 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:18:07 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1088694813.11471.20.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088694813.11471.20.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <200407011618.07788.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 01 July 2004 11:13, Bob Chiodini wrote: >On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:04, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: >> >Get it while its hot >> > >> >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt >> >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linu >> >x-x 86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run >> >> Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory >> no matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the >> real linkage please. > >Try: > >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x >86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > >This is all one line, in case your mail reader broke it up. You can >also navigate to the file thru www.nvidia.com -> drivers, etc. > This last worked, but they sure had it buried, you can sure tell that linux isn't even on their radar. :( >Bob... -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From michal at harddata.com Thu Jul 1 20:28:22 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:28:22 -0600 Subject: rpmvercmp (was: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6) In-Reply-To: <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com>; from jdennis@redhat.com on Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 02:23:53PM -0400 References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 02:23:53PM -0400, John Dennis wrote: > > No assumptions should be made about the format of the release string > other than it collate correctly when presented to rpmvercmp (the > comparison function in rpm which has specific well defined semantics). How you are using rpmvercmp, say, in a shell script? AFAIK there is no interface which would make that available. Or this is one of those undocumented mysteries of rpm? > Unfortunately we are pretty much stuck with n-v-r for historical > reasons. This I can reliably pick apart using --queryformat but now what? In case you wonder if I need that in shell scripts and similar then the answer is that indeed I do (and many others too). A comparison utility which would compare (or even collate but that I can do myself) according to rpmvercmp would be really useful. Michal From marty at dabuke.com Thu Jul 1 20:31:14 2004 From: marty at dabuke.com (System Anti-Virus Administrator) Date: 1 Jul 2004 20:31:14 -0000 Subject: virus found in sent message "Mail Delivery (failure 5.3090404@dabuke.com)" Message-ID: Attention: fedora-test-list at redhat.com A virus was found in an Email message you sent. This Email scanner intercepted it and stopped the entire message reaching its destination. The virus was reported to be: Worm.SomeFool.P Please update your virus scanner or contact your IT support personnel as soon as possible as you may have a virus on your system. Your message was sent with the following envelope: MAIL FROM: fedora-test-list at redhat.com RCPT TO: 5.3090404 at dabuke.com ... and with the following headers: --- MAILFROM: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Received: from apastourelles-107-1-7-114.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr (HELO dabuke.com) (217.128.208.114) by 10.10.1.187 with SMTP; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:31:09 +0000 From: fedora-test-list at redhat.com To: 5.3090404 at dabuke.com Subject: Mail Delivery (failure 5.3090404 at dabuke.com) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 00:42:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0CA80.6B015D10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal --- From pananth_2 at spymac.com Thu Jul 1 21:51:57 2004 From: pananth_2 at spymac.com (Ananth Poolla) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:51:57 -0600 (MDT) Subject: AMD Athelon 64 FX Message-ID: <20040701215157.A91C54C05B@spy10.spymac.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From alan at redhat.com Thu Jul 1 22:08:41 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:08:41 -0400 Subject: AMD Athelon 64 FX In-Reply-To: <20040701215157.A91C54C05B@spy10.spymac.net> References: <20040701215157.A91C54C05B@spy10.spymac.net> Message-ID: <20040701220841.GA30946@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 03:51:57PM -0600, Ananth Poolla wrote: > I am new to this community. What I mean here is I am shifting from Windows to > Linux. Just wondering if anybody here had used the new AMD Athelon64 FX processor > with Linux? Are these two compatible? Athlon64 FX should work, it seems to be an overpriced Opteron. All the production AMD Athlon64 and Opteron range should work. From jdennis at redhat.com Thu Jul 1 23:16:31 2004 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:16:31 -0400 Subject: rpmvercmp (was: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6) In-Reply-To: <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1088723791.14688.219.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:28, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > How you are using rpmvercmp, say, in a shell script? AFAIK there is > no interface which would make that available. This is off-topic for this list, but I'll answer it here, further discussion should be moved to the fedora list. You can use the rpm python bindings, see attached script (rpmvercmp.py). Please note, internally the algorithm is: name is tested for equality epoch is numerically compared version is passed to rpmvercmp release is passed to rpmvercmp first definitive answer is returned rpmvercmp splits the string into alphanumeric substrings, then pairwise compares them, numerically if the leading char is a digit, lexically otherwise, pairwise comparison ends on first definitive result. Credit and thanks go to Jerry Katz who showed me the python bindings and patiently explained many things to me. Also attached is a tiny C program I wrote that will operate on strings rather than reading the rpm header's. It's good for when you just want to test rpm names as strings and don't have a full rpm, you can give it a pair of n-v-r, in which case it calls rpmvercmp on version and then release, or you can give it either just a pair of versions or a pair of revisions and it will call rpmvercmp on just that component. 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Name: rpmvercmp.c Type: text/x-c Size: 4493 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu Jul 1 23:41:49 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:41:49 -0400 Subject: rpmvercmp (was: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6) In-Reply-To: <1088723791.14688.219.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> <1088723791.14688.219.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1088725309.3592.0.camel@portnoy> > Credit and thanks go to Jerry Katz who showed me the python bindings and > patiently explained many things to me. > Is Jerry the clone of Jeremy that he keeps saying he needs? :) -sv From michal at harddata.com Fri Jul 2 00:56:02 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:56:02 -0600 Subject: rpmvercmp (was: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6) In-Reply-To: <1088723791.14688.219.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com>; from jdennis@redhat.com on Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 07:16:31PM -0400 References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> <1088723791.14688.219.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040701185602.B5210@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 07:16:31PM -0400, John Dennis wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:28, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > How you are using rpmvercmp, say, in a shell script? AFAIK there is > > no interface which would make that available. > > You can use the rpm python bindings, see attached script (rpmvercmp.py). Thanks. This will be useful. > Credit and thanks go to Jerry Katz who showed me the python bindings and > patiently explained many things to me. Right. Unfortunately JK does not come bundled in rpm, even in rawhide, so this resource is not widely available. :-) Michal From aoliva at redhat.com Fri Jul 2 04:04:25 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 02 Jul 2004 01:04:25 -0300 Subject: rpmvercmp (was: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6) In-Reply-To: <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: On Jul 1, 2004, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 02:23:53PM -0400, John Dennis wrote: >> >> No assumptions should be made about the format of the release string >> other than it collate correctly when presented to rpmvercmp (the >> comparison function in rpm which has specific well defined semantics). > How you are using rpmvercmp, say, in a shell script? AFAIK there is > no interface which would make that available. Or this is one of > those undocumented mysteries of rpm? I wrote this years ago for a script that would automatically install updates from a local mirror of the Red Hat Linux updates site. Except that I just updated it to support commas as separators; I'd no idea they could be used with the same meaning as dots before the internal discussion :-) Untested after the change to support commas. Hope this helps. # Copyright 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004 # Alexandre Oliva # This script is Free Software, and it can be copied, distributed and # modified as defined in the GNU General Public License. A copy of # its license can be downloaded from http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html newer () { test "x$1" != "x$2" && case "$1$2" in *-*) newer "`echo $1 | sed 's/-.*//'`" "`echo $2 | sed 's/-.*//'`" || { test "`echo $1 | sed 's/-.*//'`" = "`echo $2 | sed 's/-.*//'`" && newer "`echo $1 | sed 's/[^-]*-*//'`" "`echo $2 | sed 's/[^-]*-*//'`"; } ;; *[.,]*) newer "`echo $1 | sed 's/[.,].*//'`" "`echo $2 | sed 's/[.,].*//'`" || { test "`echo $1 | sed 's/[.,].*//'`" = "`echo $2 | sed 's/[.,].*//'`" && newer "`echo $1 | sed 's/[^.,]*\.*//'`" "`echo $2 | sed 's/[^.,]*\.*//'`"; } ;; *) result=false if test -x $SORT; then { echo $2; echo $1; } | $SORT -n -c > /dev/null 2>&1 && result=true else test $1 -gt $2 && result=true fi $result ;; esac } # usage: if newer r1-v1 r2-v2; then echo r1-v1 is newer; fi -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From harald at redhat.com Fri Jul 2 08:30:54 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 10:30:54 +0200 Subject: Request for testing: system-config-network-1.3.17-2 Message-ID: <40E51D3E.20201@redhat.com> Please test this version and see it as a FC2 bugfix erratum candidate. Changes: - better "make clean" - removed references to Red Hat Linux - added testsuite for data layer - added some module-info entries - added command line parsing to network-control - added IPsec to network-cmd - switched logging to syslog - do not touch bonding slaves - better alias handling - better handling of chroot - read *.ko modules also - handle modules parameter without "=" - create correct SPI_ identifier for manual IPsec keying - better hostname handling - better profile handling - fix kernel version parsing - unknown-flag.xpm for unknown country flags - fixed TokenRing glade file (bad hash at beginning of file) - fix the length of IPSec shared keys - prevent modified status after profile switching - save dialog, for ipsec deactivation - PEERDNS defaults to yes - routing for wireless config dialog - only display CIPE for kernel < 2.6 -- Harald Hoyer, Senior Software Engineer gpg fingerprint E930 20E6 CCF8 C76C 8582 CF9F B7B7 45C2 C557 5542 http://haraldhoyer.blogspot.com http://people.redhat.com/harald Red Hat GmbH : http://www.redhat.de From jorton at redhat.com Fri Jul 2 10:15:59 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:15:59 +0100 Subject: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6 In-Reply-To: <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040702101559.GA25995@redhat.com> On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 02:23:53PM -0400, John Dennis wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 13:22, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > > Release : 1,FC2,1 <---- What is this?????????????? > > > Please don't continue using these Release strings, all it does it break > > things... > > We've been having an internal discussion recently about how to make the > release field meaningful. In the past it was typically an integer, which > had no meaning in the context of multiple simultaneous distributions. In > the last year or two some packages have started encoding strings into > the release such as AS, RHEL3, FC1, etc. Is it this practice you are > referring to in general or the specific case cited above? What > specifically is breaking? Let me invent a statistic: 99% of all packages produced by everyone ever use '.' as a component separator in release/version/etc fields - it is an accepted convention. The question is: why be inconsistent with all those packages, and start using a comma? It makes no difference to rpmvercmp, it still treats the field as three separate segments. joe From joden at lee.k12.nc.us Fri Jul 2 12:34:17 2004 From: joden at lee.k12.nc.us (James Olin Oden) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: rpmvercmp (was: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6) In-Reply-To: <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 02:23:53PM -0400, John Dennis wrote: > > > > No assumptions should be made about the format of the release string > > other than it collate correctly when presented to rpmvercmp (the > > comparison function in rpm which has specific well defined semantics). > > How you are using rpmvercmp, say, in a shell script? AFAIK there is > no interface which would make that available. Or this is one of > those undocumented mysteries of rpm? > Hi Michal, look back through the messages about a month and you will see a message concerning rpm package versions that I answered that pretty muchh answers your question. In short its pretty easy to use the python bindings or perl (RPM2) bindings to librpm to access rpmvercmp(). In my original post, I think I gave a short inline perl example (i.e. a tiny script using perl -e option to pass the script from the command line). I definately do this at my work in various shell scripts. Cheers..james > > Unfortunately we are pretty much stuck with n-v-r for historical > > reasons. > Yep and you cannot forget epoch. > This I can reliably pick apart using --queryformat but now what? > > In case you wonder if I need that in shell scripts and similar then > the answer is that indeed I do (and many others too). A comparison > utility which would compare (or even collate but that I can do > myself) according to rpmvercmp would be really useful. > Again search back through the archives and you will see code to that effect. Really what would be quite handy though for shell scripts is a utility that could be called in the following ways: rpmvercmp -v 1.1.1 -v 1.1.2 rpmvercmp -p x-1.1.1-2.0.i386.rpm -d rpmvercmp -p x-1.1.1-2.0.i386.rpm -p x-1.1.2-1.1.i386.rpm rpmvercmp -p x-1.1.1-2.0.i386.rpm -v 1.1.2 rpmvercmp -n x -v 1.1.2 -d So basically, allow you to compare a: - E:V-R string to an E:V-R string, - package to the package in the db - package to another package. - package to an E:V-R string - E:V:R string for a specific N to the database. Would not be too hard to create such a script from RPM2 (and I suspect easy to do so with the python bindings). Unfortunately, I am tied up in non-rpm endevours at the moment, or I would gladly wip it up and send it to the list. Maybe tonight I will have time, but no promises. Cheers...james > Michal > > > From joden at lee.k12.nc.us Fri Jul 2 12:42:47 2004 From: joden at lee.k12.nc.us (James Olin Oden) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: rpmvercmp (was: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6) In-Reply-To: <1088723791.14688.219.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <20040701142822.B31658@mail.harddata.com> <1088723791.14688.219.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, John Dennis wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:28, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > How you are using rpmvercmp, say, in a shell script? AFAIK there is > > no interface which would make that available. > > This is off-topic for this list, but I'll answer it here, further > discussion should be moved to the fedora list. > Yack...thought this was the rpm list. That said my comment concerning previous post of mine on this list should instead refer to the rpm list. Cheers...james From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Fri Jul 2 12:58:20 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:58:20 +0200 Subject: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6 In-Reply-To: <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040702145820.70b531ef.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:23:53 -0400, John Dennis wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 13:22, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > > Release : 1,FC2,1 <---- What is this?????????????? > > > Please don't continue using these Release strings, all it does it break > > things... > > We've been having an internal discussion recently about how to make the > release field meaningful. Why not a public discussion on fedora-devel-list? From alan at redhat.com Fri Jul 2 13:27:20 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:27:20 -0400 Subject: dovecot imap available for testing, latest upstream release 0.99.10.6 In-Reply-To: <20040702145820.70b531ef.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <1088694037.14688.1.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <1088702532.31011.68.camel@duergar> <1088706233.14688.85.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> <20040702145820.70b531ef.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <20040702132720.GG566@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 02:58:20PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > We've been having an internal discussion recently about how to make the > > release field meaningful. > > Why not a public discussion on fedora-devel-list? Because most of it related to internal build systems, the enterprise product and the like From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Fri Jul 2 13:36:34 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 14:36:34 +0100 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <200407011618.07788.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088694813.11471.20.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <200407011618.07788.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 01 July 2004 11:13, Bob Chiodini wrote: > >On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:04, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: > >> >Get it while its hot > >> > > >> >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt > >> >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linu > >> >x-x 86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > >> > >> Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory > >> no matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the > >> real linkage please. > > > >Try: > > > >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x > >86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > > >This is all one line, in case your mail reader broke it up. You can > >also navigate to the file thru www.nvidia.com -> drivers, etc. > > > This last worked, but they sure had it buried, you can sure tell that > linux isn't even on their radar. :( Does this statement not seem a tad silly to you considering they have just released a new driver for linux that works with the 4k stack size? If Linux wasn't on the radar, we wouldn't of even been having this discussion, and you couldn't have made that silly comment :p -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 From ragnar at teymi.is Fri Jul 2 13:52:05 2004 From: ragnar at teymi.is (Ragnar) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 13:52:05 +0000 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> References: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088694813.11471.20.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <200407011618.07788.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <40E56885.5080706@teymi.is> Douglas Furlong wrote: >On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >>On Thursday 01 July 2004 11:13, Bob Chiodini wrote: >> >> >>>On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:04, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Get it while its hot >>>>> >>>>>ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt >>>>>http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linu >>>>>x-x 86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory >>>>no matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the >>>>real linkage please. >>>> >>>> >>>Try: >>> >>>http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x >>>86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run >>> >>>This is all one line, in case your mail reader broke it up. You can >>>also navigate to the file thru www.nvidia.com -> drivers, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>This last worked, but they sure had it buried, you can sure tell that >>linux isn't even on their radar. :( >> >> >Does this statement not seem a tad silly to you considering they have >just released a new driver for linux that works with the 4k stack size? > >If Linux wasn't on the radar, we wouldn't of even been having this >discussion, and you couldn't have made that silly comment :p > > > Linux suppport from the Nvidia group has always been above par where it comes to gfx drivers imo. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri Jul 2 14:24:35 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:24:35 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> References: <200407011618.07788.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <200407021024.35752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 02 July 2004 09:36, Douglas Furlong wrote: >On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 01 July 2004 11:13, Bob Chiodini wrote: >> >On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:04, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: >> >> >Get it while its hot >> >> > >> >> >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.tx >> >> >t >> >> > http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA- >> >> >Linu x-x 86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run >> >> >> >> Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual >> >> directory no matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can >> >> someone post the real linkage please. >> > >> >Try: >> > >> >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linu >> >x-x 86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run >> > >> >This is all one line, in case your mail reader broke it up. You >> > can also navigate to the file thru www.nvidia.com -> drivers, >> > etc. >> >> This last worked, but they sure had it buried, you can sure tell >> that linux isn't even on their radar. :( > >Does this statement not seem a tad silly to you considering they > have just released a new driver for linux that works with the 4k > stack size? > >If Linux wasn't on the radar, we wouldn't of even been having this >discussion, and you couldn't have made that silly comment :p What I meant was that the download.nvidia.com is a virtual directory that cannot be listed. Going to www.nvidia.com, you have to do quite a bit of "door opening" before you find anything that actually leads to being able to get the file. It is definitely NOT being advertised as being available for us alternative os users, on the front page in particular there is total silence. So no, I do not call my comment silly when you have to be 2 levels deep in some submenu to find a link that even hints of being able to download anything. I thought it was quite appropo. -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Fri Jul 2 14:40:21 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 15:40:21 +0100 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <200407021024.35752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200407011618.07788.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <200407021024.35752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040702144021.GA429@nsk.no-ip.org> On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 10:24:35AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 02 July 2004 09:36, Douglas Furlong wrote: > >On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Thursday 01 July 2004 11:13, Bob Chiodini wrote: > >> >On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:04, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >> On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: > >> >> >Get it while its hot > >> >> > > >> >> >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.tx > >> >> >t > >> >> > http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA- > >> >> >Linu x-x 86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > >> >> > >> >> Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual > >> >> directory no matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can > >> >> someone post the real linkage please. > >> > > >> >Try: > >> > > >> >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linu > >> >x-x 86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > >> > > >> >This is all one line, in case your mail reader broke it up. You > >> > can also navigate to the file thru www.nvidia.com -> drivers, > >> > etc. > >> > >> This last worked, but they sure had it buried, you can sure tell > >> that linux isn't even on their radar. :( > > > >Does this statement not seem a tad silly to you considering they > > have just released a new driver for linux that works with the 4k > > stack size? > > > >If Linux wasn't on the radar, we wouldn't of even been having this > >discussion, and you couldn't have made that silly comment :p > > What I meant was that the download.nvidia.com is a virtual directory > that cannot be listed. Going to www.nvidia.com, you have to do quite > a bit of "door opening" before you find anything that actually leads > to being able to get the file. It is definitely NOT being > advertised as being available for us alternative os users, on the > front page in particular there is total silence. > > So no, I do not call my comment silly when you have to be 2 levels > deep in some submenu to find a link that even hints of being able to > download anything. I thought it was quite appropo. Main page: Download Drivers: Linux & FreeBSD It's quite visible. Regards, Luciano Rocha From darren at dzr-web.com Fri Jul 2 14:55:28 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 15:55:28 +0100 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <200407021024.35752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200407011618.07788.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <200407021024.35752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1088780128.4070.19.camel@excession.dzr> On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 15:24, Gene Heskett wrote: > Going to www.nvidia.com, you have to do quite > a bit of "door opening" before you find anything that actually leads > to being able to get the file. It is definitely NOT being > advertised as being available for us alternative os users, on the > front page in particular there is total silence. Firstly, http://www.nvidia.com/linux takes you directly there. Secondly, it is a two-click process from the home page: -> http://www.nvidia.com/ -> Click "Download Drivers" near top of page -> On next page click "Linux and FreeBSD Drivers" I don't see what's hard about that. -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Fri Jul 2 15:11:53 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 12:11:53 -0300 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <200407021024.35752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200407011618.07788.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <200407021024.35752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <40E57B39.6020504@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Gene Heskett wrote: >What I meant was that the download.nvidia.com is a virtual directory >that cannot be listed. Going to www.nvidia.com, you have to do quite >a bit of "door opening" before you find anything that actually leads >to being able to get the file. It is definitely NOT being >advertised as being available for us alternative os users, on the >front page in particular there is total silence. > >So no, I do not call my comment silly when you have to be 2 levels >deep in some submenu to find a link that even hints of being able to >download anything. I thought it was quite appropo. > > > One possibility that nvidia gives is signing up for driver announcements... I used to receive these announcements when I had a GF4 card , but removed my address when I changed to a ATI card.. The sign up page is at http://www.nvidia.com/content/nvregister/frmLoginRegister.asp . -- Pedro Macedo From jessehulsey at yahoo.com Fri Jul 2 15:20:29 2004 From: jessehulsey at yahoo.com (Jesse Hulsey) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: AMD Athelon 64 FX Message-ID: <20040702152029.80316.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> I have a FX-51 running on a Gigabyte k8nnxp-940 board with 1GB of Corsair XMS, ECC, registered pc3200 ultra low latency memory, radeon 9800pro ... I installed from fedora core2 DVD. Everything works fine, runs great, nice compile speeds. to answer the question, yes very compatible. feel free to email if you have any questions about it or my setup, I am also running vmware gsx for linux on it with 4 vmachines. -Jesse Hulsey jessehulsey at yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Fri Jul 2 16:22:20 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:22:20 -0500 Subject: OT - Journaling File Systems? Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC07734C0D@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:58 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: OT - Journaling File Systems? > On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 12:03:35PM -0500, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: >> After the second 'plug pull' it took 1 minute and 16 seconds to boot. >> But it claimed corrupted metadata and that the superblock was trashed >> and could not even mount the partiton. I found this comment on the >> Gentoo installation instructions > > XFS caches lots of data so you can lose stuff if you dont sync it in > bigger chunks than you would expect. Corrupt metadata suggests a bug. > You may want to file it upstream in bugs.kernel.org. XFS should only > ever lose unsynced data. > >> I'm completely confused now. I have been under the impression that this >> was the main purpose for these (journaling) file systems? I knew a guy >> that worked on BeOS and he claimed that you could flick the power on and >> off all day and it wouldn't lose data. Am I doing something wrong? Do >> I need to set a different mode or something on these file systems so >> that they can recover? > > Ext3 gets intensive testing as does JFFS2 on flash (people have done > thousands of random reboot tests on them). Red HAt doesn't do much with > reiserfs although the code should match the upstream tree. I finally managed to turn off the write caching on the SATA drives (see patch below) and I have re-run the tests on all four journaling file systems. And again I am completely stumped by the results. The test is really pretty simple. It is hooked to a machine that cycles the power. It runs for 5 minutes and then the power is turned off for 1 minute (to simulate the plug being pulled). For this last set of tests it has 3 hard drives connected, one Parallel IDE and two Serial ATA. The system boots a minimal install of Fedora Core 2 from the IDE drive. No tests are running on the IDE drive. In the rc.local file it starts the fsstress test http://ltp.sf.net/nfs/fsstress.tgz and the three scripts below (to simulate writing into a log file) on each of the SATA drives. The ext3 have almost a perfect record with the write cache off: I have run over 300 cycles on the two drives and only had two corrupted lines in the output files. So out of 600 total cycles on the two drives there were only two lines with bad data, I think that is a pretty good record. None of the other journaling file systems have come anywhere near this performance. After 3 or 4 power cycles, ReiserFS became corrupted to the point that the system would not boot up (the fsck failed and the bootup stopped there). XFS never got corrupted to the point it wouldn't boot, but with approximately 100 power cycles on each drive, one drive had 73 corrupted lines and the other had 82. With JFS after 15 power cycles one of the drives was corrupted and the system would no longer boot up (fsck failed again). I just can't understand what is happening, it makes no sense to me that one file system would be almost perfect and three would fail so dramatically. I am going to re-run the tests on all 4 file systems to verify that it is repeatable. Should I report these problems to the upstream projects (Reiser, XFS, JFS)? Thanks -Scott --- linux-2.6.5-1.358.orig/include/linux/ata.h 2004-05-08 06:56:41.000000000 -0600 +++ linux-2.6.5-1.358.dwc/include/linux/ata.h 2004-06-15 20:36:09.924515048 -0600 @@ -129,6 +129,8 @@ XFER_UDMA_0 = 0x40, XFER_PIO_4 = 0x0C, XFER_PIO_3 = 0x0B, + ENABLE_WRITE_CACHE = 0x02, + DISABLE_WRITE_CACHE = 0x82, /* ATAPI stuff */ ATAPI_PKT_DMA = (1 << 0), --- linux-2.6.5-1.358.orig/drivers/scsi/libata-core.c 2004-05-08 06:56:41.000000000 -0600 +++ linux-2.6.5-1.358.dwc/drivers/scsi/libata-core.c 2004-06-15 20:40:24.703782712 -0600 @@ -58,6 +58,7 @@ static void ata_host_set_udma(struct ata_port *ap); static void ata_dev_set_pio(struct ata_port *ap, unsigned int device); static void ata_dev_set_udma(struct ata_port *ap, unsigned int device); +static void ata_dev_disable_wcache(struct ata_port *ap, unsigned int device); static void ata_set_mode(struct ata_port *ap); static unsigned int ata_unique_id = 1; @@ -1093,14 +1094,20 @@ dev->n_sectors = ata_id_u32(dev, 60); } + if (dev->id[85] & (1 << 5)) { + dev->flags |= ATA_DFLAG_WCACHE; + } + ap->host->max_cmd_len = 16; /* print device info to dmesg */ - printk(KERN_INFO "ata%u: dev %u ATA, max %s, %Lu sectors%s\n", + printk(KERN_INFO + "ata%u: dev %u ATA, max %s, %Lu sectors%s wcache:%s\n", ap->id, device, ata_udma_string(udma_modes), (unsigned long long)dev->n_sectors, - dev->flags & ATA_DFLAG_LBA48 ? " (lba48)" : ""); + dev->flags & ATA_DFLAG_LBA48 ? " (lba48)" : "", + dev->flags & ATA_DFLAG_WCACHE ? "on" : "off"); } /* ATAPI-specific feature tests */ @@ -1279,6 +1286,12 @@ ata_dev_set_udma(ap, 1); } + if (ap->device[0].flags & ATA_DFLAG_WCACHE) + ata_dev_disable_wcache(ap, 0); + + if (ap->device[1].flags & ATA_DFLAG_WCACHE) + ata_dev_disable_wcache(ap, 1); + if (ap->flags & ATA_FLAG_PORT_DISABLED) return; @@ -1703,6 +1716,43 @@ DPRINTK("EXIT\n"); } +static void ata_dev_disable_wcache(struct ata_port *ap, unsigned int device) +{ + struct ata_taskfile tf; + + struct ata_device *dev = &ap->device[device]; + + if (!ata_dev_present(dev) || (ap->flags & ATA_FLAG_PORT_DISABLED)) + return; + + printk(KERN_INFO "disable write cache on dev: %u\n", device); + + /* set up set-features taskfile */ + DPRINTK("set features - disable write cache\n"); + ata_tf_init(ap, &tf, dev->devno); + tf.ctl |= ATA_NIEN; + tf.command = ATA_CMD_SET_FEATURES; + tf.feature = SETFEATURES_XFER; + tf.flags |= ATA_TFLAG_ISADDR | ATA_TFLAG_DEVICE; + tf.protocol = ATA_PROT_NODATA; + tf.nsect = DISABLE_WRITE_CACHE; + + /* do bus reset */ + ata_tf_to_host(ap, &tf); + + /* crazy ATAPI devices... */ + if (dev->class == ATA_DEV_ATAPI) + msleep(150); + + ata_busy_sleep(ap, ATA_TMOUT_BOOT_QUICK, ATA_TMOUT_BOOT); + + ata_irq_on(ap); /* re-enable interrupts */ + + ata_wait_idle(ap); + + DPRINTK("EXIT\n"); +} + /** * ata_dev_set_udma - * @ap: sleep1.sh: for ((a=0; a < 1000000000; a++)) do sleep 1 date >> $1 done exit sleep100.sh: for ((a=0; a < 1000000000; a++)) do sleep 0.1 date >> $1 done exit nosleep.sh: for ((a=0; a < 1000000000; a++)) do date >> $1 done exit From alan at redhat.com Fri Jul 2 16:38:01 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:38:01 -0400 Subject: OT - Journaling File Systems? In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC07734C0D@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC07734C0D@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: <20040702163801.GA31367@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 11:22:20AM -0500, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > The ext3 have almost a perfect record with the write cache off: I have > run over 300 cycles on the two drives and only had two corrupted lines > in the output files. So out of 600 total cycles on the two drives there > were only two lines with bad data, I think that is a pretty good record. Unless you are doing data journalling or some kind of userspace transactions you wouldn't expect file contents to be perfect. Data journalling has a big performance cost. > I just can't understand what is happening, it makes no sense to me that > one file system would be almost perfect and three would fail so > dramatically. I am going to re-run the tests on all 4 file systems to > verify that it is repeatable. Your expectations seem at odds with what journalling provides. A journalled fs can be recovered by log replay. It doesn't guarantee that user data is recovered precisely. It guarantees that user data is recovered to those points where it was committed. Thus open file O_APPEND write stuff close it repeat. doesn't guarantee "stuff" will always be committed - it just guarantees that the fs will be structurally sound open file O_APPEND write stuff fsync close OTOH says that after the fsync has returned you can be sure the data just wrote before it *will* still be there. Ext3 data journalling journals everything which is a bit slower but can be appropriate for some applications (and actually for big NFS servers often turns out to be faster because of the NFS commit behaviour) From brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com Fri Jul 2 17:15:07 2004 From: brugolsky at telemetry-investments.com (Bill Rugolsky Jr.) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:15:07 -0400 Subject: OT - Journaling File Systems? In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC07734C0D@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC07734C0D@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: <20040702171507.GA19472@ti64.telemetry-investments.com> On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 11:22:20AM -0500, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > The ext3 have almost a perfect record with the write cache off: I have > run over 300 cycles on the two drives and only had two corrupted lines > in the output files. So out of 600 total cycles on the two drives there > were only two lines with bad data, I think that is a pretty good record. > > None of the other journaling file systems have come anywhere near this > performance. After 3 or 4 power cycles, ReiserFS became corrupted to > the point that the system would not boot up (the fsck failed and the > bootup stopped there). XFS never got corrupted to the point it wouldn't > boot, but with approximately 100 power cycles on each drive, one drive > had 73 corrupted lines and the other had 82. With JFS after 15 power > cycles one of the drives was corrupted and the system would no longer > boot up (fsck failed again). You need to distinguish meta-data consistency from file data consistency. Aside from Ext3, the other journaling filesystems usually only guarantee meta-data consistency. (Reiserfs just got data journaling with ChangeSet 1.1804, 2004/06/18 07:55:25-07:00.) Corrupted files are expected with non-Ext3 filesystems. Though if fsck fails on those filesystems, that indicates a meta-data consistency problem. Here is a comment that I wrote a long time ago in reply to a comparison of Reiserfs to Ext3. - Ext3 has three journaling modes: data=writeback Journals meta-data only. This is traditionally the (only) form of journaling provided by the other filesystems. It is most appropriate for databases and other applications which assure data integrity with their own mechanisms (using fsync(), etc.). This mode contains a security hole, though, because a file can be extended before the blocks at the end of the file are committed, exposing whatever the contents of the uninitialized blocks are, e.g., the previous version of /etc/shadow, after an unscheduled shutdown. data=ordered This is the default mode. In this mode, Ext3 guarantees that data blocks at the end of a file are written before the new file length is committed. This eliminates the security hole, and also provides the guarantees of data journaling for files that are written sequentially, i.e., the file may be truncated, but won't contain random garbage. (And as you are no doubt aware, the *vast* majority of files for non-database applications are written sequentially). Since data is written only once in this mode, it can provide a substantial speedup over full data journaling with an internal journal, but the write ordering requirements interfere somewhat with sorting and merging of the write requests. data=journal This mode provides full data journaling. Since data is written to both the journal and its final place in the filesystem, double the disk bandwidth is consumed. It can, however, improve the latency of synchronous writes, as the write can be acknowledged as soon as the blocks hit the (sequential) journal, while the blocks are written back to their final location asynchronously. With an external journal on a separate spindle or in NVRAM, seeking can be avoided, and write speed is limited by the speed of sequential writes to the journal, while preserving the desirable low-latency. Since strictly-conforming NFS (and potentially other network file systems) require synchronous data writes, the ability of Ext3 to journal data while providing low-latency write acknowledgements makes it a natural choice among Linux journaled filesystems for this task. Regards, Bill Rugolsky From arjanv at redhat.com Fri Jul 2 17:16:06 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 20:16:06 +0300 Subject: OT - Journaling File Systems? In-Reply-To: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC07734C0D@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> References: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC07734C0D@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> Message-ID: <1088788566.2809.7.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> > I just can't understand what is happening, it makes no sense to me that > one file system would be almost perfect and three would fail so > dramatically. I am going to re-run the tests on all 4 file systems to > verify that it is repeatable. this is expected behavior; by default ext3 has a journaling mode that is more safe than defaults of other filesystems, eg when you create a new file or extend an existing one, it will not commit the new size to disk before the data has been sent to the disk. Other journaling filesystems do this entirely asynchronous. The cost is raw performance, which is why ext3 has a mount option to emulate the behavior of the other journaling filesystems in both speed and, ehm, data security. Your investigation proves that we default to the right mode ;) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri Jul 2 23:56:45 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:56:45 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1088780128.4070.19.camel@excession.dzr> References: <200407021024.35752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088780128.4070.19.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <200407021956.45467.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 02 July 2004 10:55, D. D. Brierton wrote: >On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 15:24, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Going to www.nvidia.com, you have to do quite >> a bit of "door opening" before you find anything that actually >> leads to being able to get the file. It is definitely NOT being >> advertised as being available for us alternative os users, on the >> front page in particular there is total silence. > >Firstly, http://www.nvidia.com/linux takes you directly there. > >Secondly, it is a two-click process from the home page: > >-> http://www.nvidia.com/ >-> Click "Download Drivers" near top of page >-> On next page click "Linux and FreeBSD Drivers" > I spent at least 5 minutes looking for the word download or the word drivers on the home page. Mozilla 1.7 wasn't showing me either word. My optometrist says we'll start talking about cateracts in about 10 years (maybe), and I'm seeing 20-10 as corrected right now. >I don't see what's hard about that. > >-- >==================================================================== >= D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com > www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer > Simpson) > =================================================================== >== -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From darren at dzr-web.com Sat Jul 3 00:28:45 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 01:28:45 +0100 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <200407021956.45467.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200407021024.35752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088780128.4070.19.camel@excession.dzr> <200407021956.45467.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1088814524.4095.6.camel@excession.dzr> On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 00:56, Gene Heskett wrote: > My optometrist says we'll start talking about cateracts in about 10 > years (maybe), and I'm seeing 20-10 as corrected right now. In which case the perfectly legitimate gripe you should have had is how crappy and inaccessible their web page is. As a web developer I completely agree with you. I reckon that scores about a zero on all the accessibility guidelines out there. But be sure to bitch about the correct thing. Their website sucks. (Well, to be fair, their information architecture is fine. But someone, be it the graphic designer or the interaction designer, hasn't spared one thought for accessibility.) Their support of GNU/Linux (which is what you originally criticised) is actually pretty good (although it would be much better if they just open-sourced their drivers). Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Sat Jul 3 00:47:57 2004 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 20:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: new xterm and erase setting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:58:56 -0500 >From: Harry Putnam >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >X-BeenThere: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Subject: new xterm and erase setting > >Mike doesn't seem to be paying attention to this somewhat dated >thread but in case anyone else is noticing.... it seems the erase >setting is different than previous xterms. I get > erase = ^? >looking at stty -a output. I'm paying attention. I'm keeping track of everyone's feedback to get a grasp of what all changes I need to make, so I can make them all in one shot. >I think this means that the backspace key in emacs -nw will not >function as expected (without some elisp correction) but will call >`help' instead. > >Very disconcerting when coding at full speed. > >One can set erase to ^H in .bash_profile or similar but then there is >the need to keep up with that setting when changing users or etc. > >I'm guessing the old defualt was `erase = ^H' but not really sure. I >don't see any settings in my rc files so apparently it didn't need any >setting before. Keep posting problems you discover, and rest assured that I'm watching. ;o) I'll update xterm sometime in the next 2 weeks or so with various changes to restore things that seem to be the most important to people. I'll post an email here at that time to indicate what changes I've made also, and to get everyone to test the new build and report back. Thanks again to everyone for testing and discussing things on the list. Much appreciated. TTYL From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Sat Jul 3 01:04:06 2004 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 21:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: new xterm and erase setting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> I'v very certain I wasn't getting the respective behavior in emacs or >>> less prior to this change. >> >> If you mean the 'backspace' key worked with the old version - then yes >> - I can reproduce this. >> >> I have some xterms which I didn't kill after installing the new >> version - so I'm able to comapre (old and new behavior). I also have >> an FC2 box - with 179-6.EL - where I can reproduce the old behavior. > >Maybe Mike will wake up and tell us what he changed ... : ) No problem. ;o) Red Hat previously applied a custom patch to the xterm resources file that ships with xterm. Every change that Red Hat has ever made to the xterm resources does two things: 1) It fixes some problem or improves xterm in some way for certain users. 2) It changes xterm from the upstream default, and causes behaviour differences for people who expect the xterm default behaviour. Some of the changes make life very easy for the average PC using xterm user, but make things more difficult for the average old school UNIX user, using a highly heterogenous UNIX environment, with Red Hat OS's connecting to non-Linux OS's, using software such as Hummingbird Exceed, etc. In general, almost every possible "bug fix" for xterm, fixes one users problem and creates a problem for another user. In other words, it is generally impossible to make xterm work by default for everyone out there in every situation. Different users simply require different application defaults, and there is an extremely large number of users out there with very different expectations for how things should work out of the box. That means it is basically impossible to make everyone happy, yet we still need to have a "default". Our defaults are generally chosen so that things work best for the largest group of users out there, however that is still a complicated problem to choose defaults for. The closer we stick to upstream xterm resources, the better, as any problems encountered by people are generic xterm issues. However, there are certain things that xterm defaults to, which are extremely inconvenient for the userbase using our operating system. One example of this, is that the average person using an IBM PC or similar computer, or using some other architecture with a PC keyboard, is used to the "backspace" key deleting the character to the left of the cursor, and the "DEL" key deleting the character under the cursor. That is traditional PC keyboard behaviour, and what the overwhelming majority of all computer users expect to happen. It is for this reason, that this is our intentional desired default handling of both of these keys. Old school UNIX people however, may very well be used to UNIX terminals or other keyboards which the meaning of these keys is somewhat different. It's essentially impossible to have a single default work for both groups of people, and it is a heavily debated topic out there. The important thing is to _have_ a default, and generally speaking, default configurations for computer software should really reflect what the largest group of users of the software expect to be the common behaviour. Since the xterm defaults do not reflect the behaviour of what the majority of users expect, we have to customize the default xterm configuration to make things work like most users expect. The side effect of this, is that users prefering traditional UNIX behaviour, or using software such as Exceed, may need to customize their xterm resources manually to get a configuration that works within their environment. Over time, we've gained a number of such divergences from the upstream xterm resources. The xterm 191-1 package no longer has any Red Hat customizations - it is stock xterm with no resource modifications. So anything that is now "broken" in the eyes of a user, is "broken" so to speak in the default upstream xterm - where "broken" is of course entirely within the eyes of the beholder, and will vary from person to person. The purpose of the exercise, was to see just what default xterm resources people consider "broken", and to re-enable the Red Hat customizations for those issues where deemed necessary. If any of our customizations aren't missed, we can possibly drop them, and the closer we are to upstream xterm, the less maintenance overhead there is, as well as the less problems the upstream maintainer of xterm will see from Red Hat OS users (theoretically). So far the experiment has went well, and I've got a list of things that I plan on re-enabling soon. Thanks again to everyone who has tested xterm and posted back to the list their experience and feedback! From ernesto at ornl.gov Sat Jul 3 01:50:32 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 21:50:32 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1088819432.5043.0.camel@matrix> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:27 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > Get it while its hot > > ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt > http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > Got it. However, I am not working: =============================================================== [williams at matrix williams]$ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual ============================================================== What am I missing?? > -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Jul 3 02:21:25 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 22:21:25 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1088814524.4095.6.camel@excession.dzr> References: <200407021956.45467.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088814524.4095.6.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <200407022221.25260.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 02 July 2004 20:28, D. D. Brierton wrote: >On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 00:56, Gene Heskett wrote: >> My optometrist says we'll start talking about cateracts in about >> 10 years (maybe), and I'm seeing 20-10 as corrected right now. > >In which case the perfectly legitimate gripe you should have had is > how crappy and inaccessible their web page is. I think thats what I was trying to say when I said I had to open a lot of doors and peek around the jams to see if the target was there, or visible from there. Sort of like the tv cops, who always stick the gun around the corner first, asking to get a hand blown off by some nervous perp. I wasn't thinking, or I might have tried the /linux addendum on the url. But, sitting here thinking about it, I have to confess that if I had tried it, and it worked, no one would have been more surprised than I. > As a web developer I > completely agree with you. I reckon that scores about a zero on all > the accessibility guidelines out there. But be sure to bitch about > the correct thing. Their website sucks. (Well, to be fair, their > information architecture is fine. But someone, be it the graphic > designer or the interaction designer, hasn't spared one thought for > accessibility.) Their support of GNU/Linux (which is what you > originally criticised) Valid criticism, considering the real support solution would be to open the srcs and let one of our many enterprising coders fix it, thereby relieving them of something they must consider a somewhat onerous chore, with little or no thanks forthcoming when they do. I understand that they don't own all the srcs, and therefore cannot open them, so this is the best we're gonna get. OTOH, how many trade secrets would be given away by at least opening the interface specs? I'm not smart enough to answer that one, Murphy tends to listen too carefully, looking for ways to bend a leg up and stick it in my mouth as is. > is actually pretty good (although it would > be much better if they just open-sourced their drivers). > >Best, Darren -- Cheers Darren, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From florin at andrei.myip.org Sat Jul 3 08:02:45 2004 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 01:02:45 -0700 Subject: thoughts on the winXP boot bug In-Reply-To: <200406222138.20170.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> References: <20040527160026.91BA975027@hormel.redhat.com> <200406222138.20170.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> Message-ID: <1088841765.2521.13.camel@rivendell.home.local> On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 13:38, Kepa Lyman wrote: > Now I'm > in trouble for screwing up a windows computer that other people need, and the > case for linux at work has just recieved a nail in the coffin... > > I mean, JESUS CHRIST, how can such a show-stopping bug be allowed in a full > release?! I mean, JESUS CHRIST, if that computer was so important, how come you install ANYTHING on it before doing a proper research on issues, known bugs, etc.? I feel your pain (been there, done that) but it's your fault (it was my fault too when i did similar screwups). -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From florin at andrei.myip.org Sat Jul 3 08:03:38 2004 From: florin at andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 01:03:38 -0700 Subject: Yum extremely slow In-Reply-To: <1087850087.4338.2.camel@T7.linux> References: <1087850087.4338.2.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1088841818.2521.15.camel@rivendell.home.local> On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 13:34, Paul wrote: > > I'm trying to do a yum update currently and it is amazingly slow. Is > there a problem currently? Use a mirror instead of the overloaded master site. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ From TVarveris at wiley.com Sat Jul 3 08:09:47 2004 From: TVarveris at wiley.com (TVarveris at wiley.com) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 04:09:47 -0400 Subject: Terri Varveris/P&T/NewYork909/Wiley is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 07/02/2004 and will not return until 07/06/2004. I'll be out of the office from July 2nd, returning on Tuesday, July 6th. Have a safe and great Fourth of July!Terri From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Jul 3 09:34:56 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 05:34:56 -0400 Subject: Yum extremely slow In-Reply-To: <1088841818.2521.15.camel@rivendell.home.local> References: <1087850087.4338.2.camel@T7.linux> <1088841818.2521.15.camel@rivendell.home.local> Message-ID: <200407030534.56386.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 03 July 2004 04:03, Florin Andrei wrote: >On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 13:34, Paul wrote: >> I'm trying to do a yum update currently and it is amazingly slow. >> Is there a problem currently? > >Use a mirror instead of the overloaded master site. > And (probably stupid question) where might a list of these mirrors be found? >-- >Florin Andrei > >http://florin.myip.org/ -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 3 11:07:12 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:07:12 +0300 Subject: Yum extremely slow In-Reply-To: <200407030534.56386.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <1087850087.4338.2.camel@T7.linux> <1088841818.2521.15.camel@rivendell.home.local> <200407030534.56386.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200407031407.13212.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Gene Heskett kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika lauantai, 3. hein?kuuta 2004 12:34): > On Saturday 03 July 2004 04:03, Florin Andrei wrote: > >Use a mirror instead of the overloaded master site. > > And (probably stupid question) where might a list of these > mirrors be found? http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sat Jul 3 14:11:25 2004 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 08:11:25 -0600 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040703141125.GA29610@charlescurley.com> On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 11:04:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: > >Get it while its hot > > > >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt > >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x > >86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory no > matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the real > linkage please. Gene, it looks like Kmail wrapped the second URL into two lines. You might look into housebreaking Kmail. Meanwhile, unwrap the URL (http://...run) into one line, feed that to wget, and feed the ftp URL to ncftpget. Very simple. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Jul 3 14:41:30 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 10:41:30 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <20040703141125.GA29610@charlescurley.com> References: <200407011104.26501.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20040703141125.GA29610@charlescurley.com> Message-ID: <200407031041.30598.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 03 July 2004 10:11, Charles Curley wrote: >On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 11:04:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: >> >Get it while its hot >> > >> >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt >> >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linu >> >x-x 86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run >> >> Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory >> no matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the >> real linkage please. > >Gene, it looks like Kmail wrapped the second URL into two lines. You >might look into housebreaking Kmail. I did "housebreak" kmail before I clicked on the link, by shifting it left off screen about 3 inches, and pulling the right edge out until it wasn't wrapped. That got me a no permission error. kmail is using konquerer. I have moz-1.7 installed, but someone needs to show me the correct linkage to make kmail use it, just selecting mozzila from the list doesn't work, wrong option or something. However, in trying to get to a part of the page that would let me follow links onward to the file, every shortened path was an "unlistable virtual directory" I did eventually get it, but preparatory to trying to install it, I put Mesa(Lib/Demos)-6.0.1 in (I think, glxinfo still claims its 4.0.3 or thereabouts). In any event glxgears is only running about 170fps, and tuxracer's screen updates are best described as "glacial". I'll have to rebuild by kernel to use it as I currently have fbnv or whatever its called, built in, which won't work from previous experiences with the nvidia driver. And I don't build dri at all because the help says its not nvidia related. 3dfx, sis, ati, rage/radion but not nvidia. If someone can further clarify that for me, it would be appreciated. >Meanwhile, unwrap the URL (http://...run) into one line, feed that > to wget, and feed the ftp URL to ncftpget. Very simple. -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Jul 3 15:02:17 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:02:17 -0400 Subject: Yum extremely slow In-Reply-To: <200407031407.13212.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> References: <1087850087.4338.2.camel@T7.linux> <200407030534.56386.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200407031407.13212.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <200407031102.17557.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 03 July 2004 07:07, Markku Kolkka wrote: >Gene Heskett kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika lauantai, 3. > >hein?kuuta 2004 12:34): >> On Saturday 03 July 2004 04:03, Florin Andrei wrote: >> >Use a mirror instead of the overloaded master site. >> >> And (probably stupid question) where might a list of these >> mirrors be found? > >http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html > Mmmm, I added a few more of the mirrors with the 'baseurl' syntax, to the [Updates-Released] block, but this is as far as I get: ------ [root at coyote root]# yum update Unable to find pid <<--this is new, wtf? Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Base --------- And its been sitting there for about 3 minutes. No further network activity other than something is doing an outbound query at 30 second intervals. Ah, it exited, with this error: ---------- Damaged or Bad header.info from Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Base This is probably because of a downed server or an invalid header.info on a repository. [root at coyote root]# ---------- I've noted that for several of those sites that I've browsed, the only fedora is 2, 1 is not being mirrored at these other sites. Has FC1 reached its end of life or something? Over the last month its gone from pretty dependable to spotty, to totally non-existant for the last 3 days now. -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From ben.steeves at gmail.com Sat Jul 3 15:20:00 2004 From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 12:20:00 -0300 Subject: thoughts on the winXP boot bug In-Reply-To: <1088841765.2521.13.camel@rivendell.home.local> References: <20040527160026.91BA975027@hormel.redhat.com> <200406222138.20170.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> <1088841765.2521.13.camel@rivendell.home.local> Message-ID: <7ebb24d1040703082058692cbd@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 13:38, Kepa Lyman wrote: > I mean, JESUS CHRIST, how can such a show-stopping bug be allowed in a full > release?! Didn't stop my show. Dual-boot environments are inherently unstable... and should be avoided at all costs. And of course, an ounce of research prior to installation is worth a pound of post-install repairs. -- Ben Steeves ben.steeves at gmail.com GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ From manu at kromtek.com Sun Jul 4 14:38:28 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 18:38:28 +0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> References: <200407011618.07788.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1088775395.4392.39.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <200407041838.28238.manu@kromtek.com> On Friday 02 Jul 2004 5:36 pm, Douglas Furlong wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 July 2004 11:13, Bob Chiodini wrote: > > >On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:04, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:57, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > >> >Get it while its hot > > >> > > > >> >ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt > > >> >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linu > > >> >x-x 86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > >> > > >> Unforch, the second line above is an unlistable virtual directory > > >> no matter how I approach it with mozilla. Can someone post the > > >> real linkage please. > > > > > >Try: > > > > > >http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x > > >86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > > > > >This is all one line, in case your mail reader broke it up. You can > > >also navigate to the file thru www.nvidia.com -> drivers, etc. > > > > This last worked, but they sure had it buried, you can sure tell that > > linux isn't even on their radar. :( > > Does this statement not seem a tad silly to you considering they have > just released a new driver for linux that works with the 4k stack size? > > If Linux wasn't on the radar, we wouldn't of even been having this > discussion, and you couldn't have made that silly comment :p > A hell lot of biotech corporates use "Linux NVIDIA boxes" (Debian/Redhat) for their development. The numbers are not small. Perhaps that explains. Regards, Manu > -- > Douglas Furlong > Systems Administrator > Firebox.com > T: 0870 420 4475 From reader at newsguy.com Mon Jul 5 00:10:46 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 19:10:46 -0500 Subject: new xterm and erase setting In-Reply-To: (Mike A. Harris's message of "Fri, 02 Jul 2004 21:04:06 -0400 (EDT)") References: Message-ID: "Mike A. Harris" writes: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > >>>> I'v very certain I wasn't getting the respective behavior in emacs or >>>> less prior to this change. >>> >>> If you mean the 'backspace' key worked with the old version - then yes >>> - I can reproduce this. >>> >>> I have some xterms which I didn't kill after installing the new >>> version - so I'm able to comapre (old and new behavior). I also have >>> an FC2 box - with 179-6.EL - where I can reproduce the old behavior. >> >>Maybe Mike will wake up and tell us what he changed ... : ) > > No problem. ;o) OK so what specifically was changed that causes the `new' behavior of of backspc NOT deleting to the left in emacs -nw. Ditto for the change that causes  to appear when using backspace in `less' search fields? From mharris at www.linux.org.uk Mon Jul 5 09:40:53 2004 From: mharris at www.linux.org.uk (Mike A. Harris) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 05:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: new xterm and erase setting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: >Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 19:10:46 -0500 >From: Harry Putnam >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >X-BeenThere: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Subject: Re: new xterm and erase setting > >"Mike A. Harris" writes: > >> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >>>>> I'v very certain I wasn't getting the respective behavior in emacs or >>>>> less prior to this change. >>>> >>>> If you mean the 'backspace' key worked with the old version - then yes >>>> - I can reproduce this. >>>> >>>> I have some xterms which I didn't kill after installing the new >>>> version - so I'm able to comapre (old and new behavior). I also have >>>> an FC2 box - with 179-6.EL - where I can reproduce the old behavior. >>> >>>Maybe Mike will wake up and tell us what he changed ... : ) >> >> No problem. ;o) > >OK so what specifically was changed that causes the `new' behavior of >of backspc NOT deleting to the left in emacs -nw. Ditto for the >change that causes  to appear when using backspace in `less' search >fields? Along with all other Red Hat customizations, the one that fixes this problem was removed. I don't know off hand without examining the patch we applied, which of the customizations fixed this, but it wouldn't be hard to find out. Thomas will be putting xterm-192 out soon, and I'll probably update to it right away, again without our patch applied, just to see which upstream changes he's made will work for people instead of our customizing things. Once that's in the tree and I get a bit of feedback, I'll probably re-integrate our patch and remove any changes that aren't needed. The backspace/delete problem will likely go away then also. I'll post a note here for testing/feedback then also. Thanks again to everyone for fiddling with the new xterm and discussing it here. TTYL From mike at netlyncs.com Mon Jul 5 21:59:04 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:59:04 -0500 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.471 from Arjan Message-ID: <1089064744.2089.5.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Is there something wrong with this kernel while installing? Doesn't seem to write to grub nor create an initrd.img when it is installed, via yum from up2date. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From ernesto at ornl.gov Mon Jul 5 23:06:00 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:06:00 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.471 from Arjan In-Reply-To: <1089064744.2089.5.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1089064744.2089.5.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1089068760.5043.66.camel@matrix> On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 16:59 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > Is there something wrong with this kernel while installing? Doesn't > seem to write to grub nor create an initrd.img when it is installed, via > yum from up2date. This one worked perfect for me. I went from kernel-2.6.7-1.459 to Kernel-2.6.7-1.471, no problem. > > -- > Mike Chambers > Madisonville, KY > > "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" > > -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From mike at netlyncs.com Mon Jul 5 23:35:47 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 18:35:47 -0500 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.471 from Arjan In-Reply-To: <1089064744.2089.5.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1089064744.2089.5.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1089070547.2740.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 16:59 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > Is there something wrong with this kernel while installing? Doesn't > seem to write to grub nor create an initrd.img when it is installed, via > yum from up2date. I think I found the problem, which I had seen while trying to uninstall the newer kernel, and now see while trying to install it manually instead of with up2date. These are just a few of the errors that I saw at the end (couldn't scroll back far enough to get them all)...... error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/net/ wanrouter/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/ core/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/ core/oss/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/ core/seq/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/ core/seq/instr/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/ core/seq/oss/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/ drivers/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/ drivers/mpu401/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/ drivers/opl3/" records from Dirnames index error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: error(-30988) getting "/lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/sound/ drivers/opl4/" records from Dirnames index -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From marshall at novafoundry.com Tue Jul 6 01:19:44 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 21:19:44 -0400 Subject: sata device names changing Message-ID: <1089076784.5019.4.camel@grendel> Just tried kernel 2.6.7-1.471.. and it's working perfectly for me (no weirdness with the quiet and rhgb options, and acpi is working fine for me again)... other than this device name change that popped up a couple of builds ago... Are the sata_via devices officially being renamed again?.. is anyone else experiencing this? (does anyone else care?... should I?) -- Marshall From gregt at maths.otago.ac.nz Tue Jul 6 02:17:37 2004 From: gregt at maths.otago.ac.nz (Greg Trounson) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 14:17:37 +1200 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1088819432.5043.0.camel@matrix> References: <1088819432.5043.0.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <40EA0BC1.4020408@maths.otago.ac.nz> Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:27 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > >>Get it while its hot >> >>ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt >>http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run >> > > > Got it. However, I am not working: > > =============================================================== > > [williams at matrix williams]$ glxinfo > name of display: :0.0 > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual > ============================================================== > > What am I missing?? What driver are you using? Check in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or /etc/X11/XF86Config if you're using FC1) that your video driver is set to 'nvidia' and not 'nv' or 'vesa'. You should have a section that looks like this: Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX (generic)" EndSection Greg From michal at harddata.com Tue Jul 6 06:54:07 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 00:54:07 -0600 Subject: sata device names changing In-Reply-To: <1089076784.5019.4.camel@grendel>; from marshall@novafoundry.com on Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 09:19:44PM -0400 References: <1089076784.5019.4.camel@grendel> Message-ID: <20040706005407.A23745@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 09:19:44PM -0400, Marshall Lewis wrote: > ... other than this device name change that popped up a couple > of builds ago... Are the sata_via devices officially being renamed > again?.. There is one thing I noticed which is not that benign in this change. Namely SMART was working fine with /dev/hde but one gets "device not supported" with the same disk(s) if this is /dev/sda. Other than that there is a minor matter of editing swap devices in /etc/fstab; it is possible to have entries for both variants but then you will always get some, harmless, complaints while booting. This assumes, of course, that you are mounting by label (or UUID). Michal From ernesto at ornl.gov Tue Jul 6 10:29:48 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:29:48 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <40EA0BC1.4020408@maths.otago.ac.nz> References: <1088819432.5043.0.camel@matrix> <40EA0BC1.4020408@maths.otago.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1089109788.3842.7.camel@matrix> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 14:17 +1200, Greg Trounson wrote: > Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:27 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > > >>Get it while its hot > >> > >>ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt > >>http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > >> > > > > > > Got it. However, I am not working: > > > > =============================================================== > > > > [williams at matrix williams]$ glxinfo > > name of display: :0.0 > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual > > ============================================================== > > > > What am I missing?? > > What driver are you using? I am using the NVIDIA driver > > Check in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or /etc/X11/XF86Config if you're using > FC1) that your video driver is set to 'nvidia' and not 'nv' or 'vesa'. > I am using Fedora Core 2. > You should have a section that looks like this: > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX (generic)" > EndSection My section indeed is as above: =========================================================================== Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)" EndSection =========================================================================== What linux kernel are you using? What version of gcc are you using? For me: linux kernel -- kernel-2.6.7-1.471 gcc -- gcc-3.4.0-7 To build the driver I am doing the following: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel I will read the instructions and try again > > Greg > > -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From ernesto at ornl.gov Tue Jul 6 11:30:10 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:30:10 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1089109788.3842.7.camel@matrix> References: <1088819432.5043.0.camel@matrix> <40EA0BC1.4020408@maths.otago.ac.nz> <1089109788.3842.7.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1089113410.3855.4.camel@matrix> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 06:29 -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 14:17 +1200, Greg Trounson wrote: > > Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:27 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > > > > >>Get it while its hot > > >> > > >>ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.txt > > >>http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > >> > > > > > > > > > Got it. However, I am not working: > > > > > > =============================================================== > > > > > > [williams at matrix williams]$ glxinfo > > > name of display: :0.0 > > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > > Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual > > > ============================================================== > > > > > > What am I missing?? > > > > What driver are you using? > I am using the NVIDIA driver > > > > Check in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or /etc/X11/XF86Config if you're using > > FC1) that your video driver is set to 'nvidia' and not 'nv' or 'vesa'. > > > I am using Fedora Core 2. > > > > You should have a section that looks like this: > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Videocard0" > > Driver "nvidia" > > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX (generic)" > > EndSection > > My section indeed is as above: > =========================================================================== > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)" > EndSection > =========================================================================== > > What linux kernel are you using? > What version of gcc are you using? > > > For me: > linux kernel -- kernel-2.6.7-1.471 > gcc -- gcc-3.4.0-7 > > To build the driver I am doing the following: > sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel > > I will read the instructions and try again Still no luck: When booting up I get can't find nvidia module =========================================================================== Jul 6 06:55:55 matrix udev[3953]: creating device node '/udev/nvidia0' Jul 6 06:55:55 matrix udev[3947]: creating device node '/udev/ nvidiactl' Jul 6 07:06:35 matrix nvidia: Disabling nvidia driver succeeded Jul 6 07:08:50 matrix nvidia: Checking for nvidia kernel module failed Jul 6 07:08:51 matrix nvidia: Disabling nvidia driver succeeded =========================================================================== Next, the system automatically modifies my xorg.conf and uses nv instead. Hmmm. [williams at matrix log]$ grep glx Xorg.0.log (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so (EE) Failed to load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) UnloadModule: "glx" (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7) [williams at matrix log]$ grep nvidia Xorg.0.log dlopen: /usr/lib/nvidia/tls/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: __gl_tls_var0 > > > > > > Greg > > > > > -- > *************************** > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > SNS Control Systems Group > Oak Ridge National Labs > Office: (865) 241-9071 > CELL: (865) 591-0183 > *************************** > > -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Jul 6 13:58:10 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:58:10 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1089113410.3855.4.camel@matrix> References: <1089109788.3842.7.camel@matrix> <1089113410.3855.4.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <200407060958.10702.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Tuesday 06 July 2004 07:30, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: >On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 06:29 -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: >> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 14:17 +1200, Greg Trounson wrote: >> > Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: >> > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:27 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: >> > >>Get it while its hot >> > >> >> > >>ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.tx >> > >>t >> > >> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA- >> > >>Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run >> > > >> > > Got it. However, I am not working: >> > > >> > > ============================================================== >> > >= >> > > >> > > [williams at matrix williams]$ glxinfo >> > > name of display: :0.0 >> > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >> > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >> > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". >> > > Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual >> > > ============================================================== >> > > >> > > What am I missing?? >> > >> > What driver are you using? >> >> I am using the NVIDIA driver >> >> > Check in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or /etc/X11/XF86Config if >> > you're using FC1) that your video driver is set to 'nvidia' and >> > not 'nv' or 'vesa'. >> >> I am using Fedora Core 2. >> >> > You should have a section that looks like this: >> > Section "Device" >> > Identifier "Videocard0" >> > Driver "nvidia" >> > VendorName "Videocard vendor" >> > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX (generic)" >> > EndSection >> >> My section indeed is as above: >> ================================================================== >>========= Section "Device" >> Identifier "Videocard0" >> Driver "nvidia" >> VendorName "Videocard vendor" >> BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)" >> EndSection >> ================================================================== >>========= >> >> What linux kernel are you using? >> What version of gcc are you using? >> >> >> For me: >> linux kernel -- kernel-2.6.7-1.471 >> gcc -- gcc-3.4.0-7 >> >> To build the driver I am doing the following: >> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel >> >> I will read the instructions and try again > >Still no luck: >When booting up I get can't find nvidia module >==================================================================== >======= Jul 6 06:55:55 matrix udev[3953]: creating device node > '/udev/nvidia0' Jul 6 06:55:55 matrix udev[3947]: creating device > node '/udev/ nvidiactl' >Jul 6 07:06:35 matrix nvidia: Disabling nvidia driver succeeded >Jul 6 07:08:50 matrix nvidia: Checking for nvidia kernel module > failed Jul 6 07:08:51 matrix nvidia: Disabling nvidia driver > succeeded > =================================================================== >======== Next, the system automatically modifies my xorg.conf and > uses nv instead. > >Hmmm. > Did you run depmod -a 2.6.whatever-you're-running after installing the nvidia drivers? That would be one reason it cannot find the driver. and it sounds as if a re-run of ldconfig might be in order. >> > Greg >> >> -- >> *************************** >> Ernest L. Williams Jr. >> SNS Control Systems Group >> Oak Ridge National Labs >> Office: (865) 241-9071 >> CELL: (865) 591-0183 >> *************************** > >-- >*************************** >Ernest L. Williams Jr. >SNS Control Systems Group >Oak Ridge National Labs >Office: (865) 241-9071 >CELL: (865) 591-0183 >*************************** -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Jul 6 14:24:19 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 15:24:19 +0100 Subject: Times font Message-ID: <1089123859.30698.11.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Which package has the Times font in? I seem to have lost it off just about all of my machines and it's a pain when I get articles through which use the font as it's substituted by something awful! TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What CPU do you have ? > These are just a few of the errors that I saw at the end (couldn't > scroll back far enough to get them all)...... > > error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: > Requested page not found Does rpm --rebuilddb help ? From w.steenburg at myactv.net Tue Jul 6 20:10:34 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 16:10:34 -0400 Subject: Times font In-Reply-To: <1089123859.30698.11.camel@T7.linux> References: <1089123859.30698.11.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1089144634.3182.7.camel@FC2-Work> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 10:24, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Which package has the Times font in? I seem to have lost it off just > about all of my machines and it's a pain when I get articles through > which use the font as it's substituted by something awful! > > TTFN > > Paul I could be way off base but a : yum provides times | grep font results in tetex-fonts.i386. I would try that. Good luck! Wayne Steenburg From terraformers at gmx.net Tue Jul 6 20:09:46 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 22:09:46 +0200 Subject: (rawhide) kde-panel flickers badly Message-ID: hi anyone have the same behavior? best lars From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Jul 6 21:59:20 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:59:20 +0000 Subject: Evo-1.5.9.2 problems Message-ID: <1089151161.2085.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Has anyone else been starting to get crashes while running this version? Maybe at least since doing some upgrading to rawhide in the last week or so? It seems to crash a bit more (hardly ever before) lately, plus there is even some type of bookend/bookmark error while selecting the address book (but you do get to the address book after you click OK in the error box). Any chance there are some updates to this lately that maybe haven't been compiled recently? evolution-1.5.9.2-1 evolution-data-server-0.0.94.1-1 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Jul 6 22:02:16 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 17:02:16 -0500 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.471 from Arjan In-Reply-To: <20040706151840.GA11736@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1089064744.2089.5.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1089070547.2740.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <20040706151840.GA11736@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1089151336.2087.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 11:18 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 06:35:47PM -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > I think I found the problem, which I had seen while trying to uninstall > > the newer kernel, and now see while trying to install it manually > > instead of with up2date. > > What CPU do you have ? [root at scrappy proc]# more cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 8 model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 746.938 cache size : 256 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse bogomips : 1474.56 > > These are just a few of the errors that I saw at the end (couldn't > > scroll back far enough to get them all)...... > > > > error: db4 error(-30988) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: > > Requested page not found > > Does rpm --rebuilddb help ? Glad you mentioned this, because I had forgotten to mention that when I tried installing that kernel the first time, towards the end of the install we had a power outtage. So that may have messed up the db, as after rebuilding it, it worked this time. Thanks for the heads up, -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Jul 6 22:31:11 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:31:11 +0100 Subject: Incredibly slow email on the laptop Message-ID: <1089153071.10559.21.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I have version 1.5.9.2 of Evolution installed on all of my machines at home and my main box at work as well as on the laptop (A Toshiba Satellite jobbie). On every box (except the laptop), email comes down at a good speed. There are no real problems with spamassassin and everything is fine. On the laptop, it's different. 9 emails can take 3 minutes to come down. SA is switched off. The downloads usually hang before they've finished coming down, aren't deleted from the server or Ev. just fails the download (and still doesn't clear things). As this is not happening on any other machine, I've not put it into bugzilla, but can anyone give me some pointers on what to check to ensure there isn't a conflict on the system? The firewall is switched off as is IPV6. All machines (except one) are using rawhide FC2 (the one is my son's box) TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On every other machine, it's rock solid. According to gnome.org, the latest version is 1.5.9.0 - Fedora has a TARDIS! TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mike at netlyncs.com Tue Jul 6 23:01:02 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 18:01:02 -0500 Subject: Incredibly slow email on the laptop In-Reply-To: <1089153071.10559.21.camel@T7.linux> References: <1089153071.10559.21.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1089154862.2078.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 23:31 +0100, Paul wrote: > On the laptop, it's different. 9 emails can take 3 minutes to come down. > SA is switched off. The downloads usually hang before they've finished > coming down, aren't deleted from the server or Ev. just fails the > download (and still doesn't clear things). Do you run it with "check for junk mail option" checked or with it off? That is what I noticed when I first upgraded to that verion and downloading was painfully slowwwwwwwwww. I since disabled it (I run SA on my mail server anyway) and that sped things up considerably. Although, as mentioned before in a seperate email, I am starting to experience a few problems though, to include some emails (huge big ones but less than a meg) taking while to download, or to format to be viewed once it's clicked on. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From dmalcolm at redhat.com Tue Jul 6 23:44:58 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 19:44:58 -0400 Subject: Evo-1.5.9.2 problems In-Reply-To: <1089151161.2085.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1089151161.2085.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1089157499.29325.40.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 21:59 +0000, Mike Chambers wrote: > Has anyone else been starting to get crashes while running this version? > Maybe at least since doing some upgrading to rawhide in the last week or > so? It seems to crash a bit more (hardly ever before) lately, plus > there is even some type of bookend/bookmark error while selecting the > address book (but you do get to the address book after you click OK in > the error box). > > Any chance there are some updates to this lately that maybe haven't been > compiled recently? I'm building the latest versions (evolution-1.5.90 and evolution-data- server-0.0.95) right now... > > evolution-1.5.9.2-1 > evolution-data-server-0.0.94.1-1 > > -- > Mike Chambers > Madisonville, KY > > "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" > > From ernesto at ornl.gov Wed Jul 7 01:25:59 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:25:59 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <200407060958.10702.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <1089109788.3842.7.camel@matrix> <1089113410.3855.4.camel@matrix> <200407060958.10702.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1089163559.5136.1.camel@matrix> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 09:58 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 July 2004 07:30, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > >On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 06:29 -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > >> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 14:17 +1200, Greg Trounson wrote: > >> > Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > >> > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:27 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > >> > >>Get it while its hot > >> > >> > >> > >>ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.tx > >> > >>t > >> > >> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA- > >> > >>Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > >> > > > >> > > Got it. However, I am not working: > >> > > > >> > > ============================================================== > >> > >= > >> > > > >> > > [williams at matrix williams]$ glxinfo > >> > > name of display: :0.0 > >> > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > >> > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > >> > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > >> > > Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual > >> > > ============================================================== > >> > > > >> > > What am I missing?? > >> > > >> > What driver are you using? > >> > >> I am using the NVIDIA driver > >> > >> > Check in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or /etc/X11/XF86Config if > >> > you're using FC1) that your video driver is set to 'nvidia' and > >> > not 'nv' or 'vesa'. > >> > >> I am using Fedora Core 2. > >> > >> > You should have a section that looks like this: > >> > Section "Device" > >> > Identifier "Videocard0" > >> > Driver "nvidia" > >> > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > >> > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX (generic)" > >> > EndSection > >> > >> My section indeed is as above: > >> ================================================================== > >>========= Section "Device" > >> Identifier "Videocard0" > >> Driver "nvidia" > >> VendorName "Videocard vendor" > >> BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)" > >> EndSection > >> ================================================================== > >>========= > >> > >> What linux kernel are you using? > >> What version of gcc are you using? > >> > >> > >> For me: > >> linux kernel -- kernel-2.6.7-1.471 > >> gcc -- gcc-3.4.0-7 > >> > >> To build the driver I am doing the following: > >> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel > >> > >> I will read the instructions and try again > > > >Still no luck: > >When booting up I get can't find nvidia module > >==================================================================== > >======= Jul 6 06:55:55 matrix udev[3953]: creating device node > > '/udev/nvidia0' Jul 6 06:55:55 matrix udev[3947]: creating device > > node '/udev/ nvidiactl' > >Jul 6 07:06:35 matrix nvidia: Disabling nvidia driver succeeded > >Jul 6 07:08:50 matrix nvidia: Checking for nvidia kernel module > > failed Jul 6 07:08:51 matrix nvidia: Disabling nvidia driver > > succeeded > > =================================================================== > >======== Next, the system automatically modifies my xorg.conf and > > uses nv instead. > > > >Hmmm. > > > Did you run depmod -a 2.6.whatever-you're-running after installing the > nvidia drivers? > > That would be one reason it cannot find the driver. > and it sounds as if a re-run of ldconfig might be in order. Okay, I have performed your recommendations and still it does not work: ============================================================================= [williams at matrix log]$ grep glx Xorg.0.log (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so (EE) Failed to load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) UnloadModule: "glx" (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7) [williams at matrix log]$ ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo linux-gate.so.1 => (0x00254000) libGLU.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x00377000) libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/nvidia/tls/libGL.so.1 (0x002a2000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00c96000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00bcc000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x00111000) libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x0055f000) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x005ff000) libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x00d47000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00fd5000) libGLcore.so.1 => /usr/lib/nvidia/tls/libGLcore.so.1 (0x02082000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00cb9000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00890000) =========================================================================== > > >> > Greg > >> > >> -- > >> *************************** > >> Ernest L. Williams Jr. > >> SNS Control Systems Group > >> Oak Ridge National Labs > >> Office: (865) 241-9071 > >> CELL: (865) 591-0183 > >> *************************** > > > >-- > >*************************** > >Ernest L. Williams Jr. > >SNS Control Systems Group > >Oak Ridge National Labs > >Office: (865) 241-9071 > >CELL: (865) 591-0183 > >*************************** > > -- > Cheers, Gene > There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. > Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. > Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author > Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, > Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. > > -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From stan at ccs.neu.edu Wed Jul 7 02:12:22 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 22:12:22 -0400 Subject: Evolution and bonobo problem Message-ID: <1089166342.871.14.camel@duergar> Hey all, After I close evolution, these processes are still running: /usr/libexec/evolution/1.5/evolution-alarm-notify --oaf-activate- iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_AlarmNotify_Factory:1.5 --oaf-ior- fd=43 /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server-1.0 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID: GNOME_Evolution_DataServer_CalFactory:1.0 --oaf-ior-fd=45 Happens 100% of the time, any idea why? Solutions discussed in the past don't help. More Info: [null at duergar null]$ rpm -q evolution evolution-1.5.9.2-1 [null at duergar null]$ rpm -q evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-0.0.94.1-1 [null at duergar null]$ rpm -q bonobo bonobo-1.0.22-9 [null at duergar null]$ rpm -q libbonobo libbonobo-2.6.0-3 [null at duergar null]$ rpm -q gnome-desktop gnome-desktop-2.6.0.1-3 [null at duergar null]$ rpm -q gnome-libs gnome-libs-1.4.1.2.90-41 [null at duergar null]$ -sb -- Stan Bubrouski From darren at dzr-web.com Wed Jul 7 03:03:34 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:03:34 +0100 Subject: Evolution and bonobo problem In-Reply-To: <1089166342.871.14.camel@duergar> References: <1089166342.871.14.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1089169414.4137.76.camel@excession.dzr> On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 03:12, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > Happens 100% of the time, any idea why? Solutions discussed in the past > don't help. Uhhmmm ... because that is the intended behaviour? evolution-data-server is a daemon integrated into the GNOME desktop that allows all GNOME apps to access its data. evolution-alarm-notify notifies you of events in your calendar that you've set an alarm for even if evolution itself isn't running. There's nothing wrong. This is how they're meant to work. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From gene.heskett at verizon.net Wed Jul 7 04:22:03 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 00:22:03 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1089163559.5136.1.camel@matrix> References: <200407060958.10702.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1089163559.5136.1.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <200407070022.03933.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Tuesday 06 July 2004 21:25, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 09:58 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > > > > Did you run depmod -a 2.6.whatever-you're-running after installing the > > nvidia drivers? > > > > That would be one reason it cannot find the driver. > > and it sounds as if a re-run of ldconfig might be in order. > > Okay, I have performed your recommendations and still it does not work: That was my best shot, and I'm currently dead on that machine, the mobo needs some caps replaced, so until thats done I'm a bit helpless here too, sorry. > =========================================================================== >== [williams at matrix log]$ grep glx Xorg.0.log > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so > (EE) Failed to load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so verify this module exists -- Cheers, Gene From spam at tachegroup.com Wed Jul 7 05:32:16 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 01:32:16 -0400 Subject: Kernel Source build troubles Message-ID: Now that the source for the kernel has been moved, I cannot figure out how to build it. I tried to do the following and get an error. rpmbuild -ba SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec error: Architecture is not included: i386 then I tried rpmbuild -bs SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.7-1.471.root.src.rpm which looks as if it is the src rpm already installed. Looking in the BUILD directory, I see a load of potches and a tarball, which I imagine is the src. How can I get to the /usr/src/linux... that I am used to dealing with? From arjanv at redhat.com Wed Jul 7 07:06:26 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:06:26 +0200 Subject: Kernel Source build troubles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1089183986.2805.3.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 07:32, TGS wrote: > Now that the source for the kernel has been moved, I cannot figure out how > to build it. > > I tried to do the following and get an error. > > rpmbuild -ba SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec > error: Architecture is not included: i386 you need to either specify --target noarch or --target i686 depending on which rpms you want. > How can I get to the /usr/src/linux... that I am used to dealing with? or install kernel-sourcecode ... :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Wed Jul 7 08:06:05 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:06:05 +0100 Subject: Evo-1.5.9.2 problems In-Reply-To: <1089151161.2085.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1089151161.2085.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1089187565.20109.1.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 21:59 +0000, Mike Chambers wrote: > Has anyone else been starting to get crashes while running this version? > Maybe at least since doing some upgrading to rawhide in the last week or > so? It seems to crash a bit more (hardly ever before) lately, plus > there is even some type of bookend/bookmark error while selecting the > address book (but you do get to the address book after you click OK in > the error box). > > Any chance there are some updates to this lately that maybe haven't been > compiled recently? > > evolution-1.5.9.2-1 > evolution-data-server-0.0.94.1-1 I don't seem to be having any of those problems, however I have noticed that Evolution no longer reliably remembers my position in folders, when I go back to my Inbox, or any other folder the view appears to be randomly placed, and not highlighting (and visible) the email that I was last reading. I'm fairly certain it WAS doing that before? -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 From stevef at netvantix.com Wed Jul 7 14:09:49 2004 From: stevef at netvantix.com (Steve Fink) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:09:49 -0600 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1089163559.5136.1.camel@matrix> References: <1089109788.3842.7.camel@matrix> <1089113410.3855.4.camel@matrix> <200407060958.10702.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1089163559.5136.1.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1089209389.4669.9.camel@orion> I've noticed that after each time I build a new kernel I have to re-run the nvidia install script and rebuild the nvidia module. I've even noticed this on the exact same version of the kernel, I just recompiled the kernel to add/remove features. Try re-running your nvidia installer script. Best, Steve On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 19:25, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 09:58 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 July 2004 07:30, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > >On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 06:29 -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > >> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 14:17 +1200, Greg Trounson wrote: > > >> > Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > >> > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:27 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > >> > >>Get it while its hot > > >> > >> > > >> > >>ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/README.tx > > >> > >>t > > >> > >> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/NVIDIA- > > >> > >>Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run > > >> > > > > >> > > Got it. However, I am not working: > > >> > > > > >> > > ============================================================== > > >> > >= > > >> > > > > >> > > [williams at matrix williams]$ glxinfo > > >> > > name of display: :0.0 > > >> > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > >> > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > >> > > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > > >> > > Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual > > >> > > ============================================================== > > >> > > > > >> > > What am I missing?? > > >> > > > >> > What driver are you using? > > >> > > >> I am using the NVIDIA driver > > >> > > >> > Check in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or /etc/X11/XF86Config if > > >> > you're using FC1) that your video driver is set to 'nvidia' and > > >> > not 'nv' or 'vesa'. > > >> > > >> I am using Fedora Core 2. > > >> > > >> > You should have a section that looks like this: > > >> > Section "Device" > > >> > Identifier "Videocard0" > > >> > Driver "nvidia" > > >> > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > > >> > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX (generic)" > > >> > EndSection > > >> > > >> My section indeed is as above: > > >> ================================================================== > > >>========= Section "Device" > > >> Identifier "Videocard0" > > >> Driver "nvidia" > > >> VendorName "Videocard vendor" > > >> BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)" > > >> EndSection > > >> ================================================================== > > >>========= > > >> > > >> What linux kernel are you using? > > >> What version of gcc are you using? > > >> > > >> > > >> For me: > > >> linux kernel -- kernel-2.6.7-1.471 > > >> gcc -- gcc-3.4.0-7 > > >> > > >> To build the driver I am doing the following: > > >> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel > > >> > > >> I will read the instructions and try again > > > > > >Still no luck: > > >When booting up I get can't find nvidia module > > >==================================================================== > > >======= Jul 6 06:55:55 matrix udev[3953]: creating device node > > > '/udev/nvidia0' Jul 6 06:55:55 matrix udev[3947]: creating device > > > node '/udev/ nvidiactl' > > >Jul 6 07:06:35 matrix nvidia: Disabling nvidia driver succeeded > > >Jul 6 07:08:50 matrix nvidia: Checking for nvidia kernel module > > > failed Jul 6 07:08:51 matrix nvidia: Disabling nvidia driver > > > succeeded > > > =================================================================== > > >======== Next, the system automatically modifies my xorg.conf and > > > uses nv instead. > > > > > >Hmmm. > > > > > Did you run depmod -a 2.6.whatever-you're-running after installing the > > nvidia drivers? > > > > That would be one reason it cannot find the driver. > > and it sounds as if a re-run of ldconfig might be in order. > Okay, I have performed your recommendations and still it does not work: > ============================================================================= > [williams at matrix log]$ grep glx Xorg.0.log > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so > (EE) Failed to load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so > (II) UnloadModule: "glx" > (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7) > [williams at matrix log]$ ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo > linux-gate.so.1 => (0x00254000) > libGLU.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x00377000) > libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/nvidia/tls/libGL.so.1 (0x002a2000) > libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00c96000) > libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00bcc000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x00111000) > libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x0055f000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x005ff000) > libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x00d47000) > libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00fd5000) > libGLcore.so.1 => /usr/lib/nvidia/tls/libGLcore.so.1 > (0x02082000) > libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00cb9000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00890000) > =========================================================================== > > > > > > > > > >> > Greg > > >> > > >> -- > > >> *************************** > > >> Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > >> SNS Control Systems Group > > >> Oak Ridge National Labs > > >> Office: (865) 241-9071 > > >> CELL: (865) 591-0183 > > >> *************************** > > > > > >-- > > >*************************** > > >Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > >SNS Control Systems Group > > >Oak Ridge National Labs > > >Office: (865) 241-9071 > > >CELL: (865) 591-0183 > > >*************************** > > > > -- > > Cheers, Gene > > There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. > > Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. > > Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author > > Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, > > Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. > > > > > -- > *************************** > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > SNS Control Systems Group > Oak Ridge National Labs > Office: (865) 241-9071 > CELL: (865) 591-0183 > *************************** > From walters at redhat.com Wed Jul 7 15:00:38 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:00:38 -0400 Subject: TEST: gstreamer-0.8.3-2 & gstreamer-plugins-0.8.2-2 Message-ID: <1089212438.29706.6.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Hi, Due to the number of people who seem to be having trouble of various sorts with GStreamer, I'd like to update the versions in FC2 to the latest upstream versions, which should hopefully fix a lot of these issues. Please test, if there's no negative feedback I'll push in 4-5 days. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From terraformers at gmx.net Wed Jul 7 17:08:18 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:08:18 +0200 Subject: (rawhide) kde-panel flickers badly References: Message-ID: guess i'm the only one with this problem then ;) cheers lars Lars wrote: > hi > > anyone have the same behavior? > > > best > lars > > > From fedora at warmcat.com Wed Jul 7 18:13:42 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 19:13:42 +0100 Subject: (rawhide) kde-panel flickers badly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200407071913.47566.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 07 July 2004 18:08, Lars wrote: > guess i'm the only one with this problem then ;) Not seeing flicker, but the last few days on starting Rawhide KDE, I am seeing no "buttons" for active apps. Only when I resize the panel and start a new process do they appear and work properly from then on. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA7D1ajKeDCxMJCTIRApMTAJsGsvfsCI+7qo+gpmasj51flj8jKACfSuWb 8/uUX3OOLyAAJVJLtTYUtaU= =SeHk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From w.steenburg at myactv.net Wed Jul 7 18:22:14 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:22:14 -0400 Subject: TEST: gstreamer-0.8.3-2 & gstreamer-plugins-0.8.2-2 In-Reply-To: <1089212438.29706.6.camel@nexus.verbum.private> References: <1089212438.29706.6.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: <1089224533.5873.16.camel@FC2-Work> On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 11:00, Colin Walters wrote: > Due to the number of people who seem to be having trouble of various > sorts with GStreamer, I'd like to update the versions in FC2 to the > latest upstream versions Many thanks Colin :) From gene.heskett at verizon.net Wed Jul 7 19:41:00 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:41:00 -0400 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <200407070022.03933.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <1089163559.5136.1.camel@matrix> <200407070022.03933.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200407071541.00510.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Wednesday 07 July 2004 00:22, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Tuesday 06 July 2004 21:25, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: >> On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 09:58 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >[...] > >> > Did you run depmod -a 2.6.whatever-you're-running after >> > installing the nvidia drivers? >> > >> > That would be one reason it cannot find the driver. >> > and it sounds as if a re-run of ldconfig might be in order. >> >> Okay, I have performed your recommendations and still it does not >> work: > >That was my best shot, and I'm currently dead on that machine, the > mobo needs some caps replaced, so until thats done I'm a bit > helpless here too, sorry. > Anbd it turned out the caps were fine. But I'm now out of the nvidia business, that pny built GForce2-mx200 32 megger developed memory smallpox of something, and the AGP slot is now occupied by a Radeon 9200 SE 128 megger, so I'll no doubt have questions about optimizing that puppy. It doesn't seem to be as fast as the gforce2 was at full screen switching. But that could be subjective. >> ================================================================== >>========= == [williams at matrix log]$ grep glx Xorg.0.log >> (II) LoadModule: "glx" >> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so >> (EE) Failed to load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so > >verify this module exists > > -- >Cheers, Gene -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From terraformers at gmx.net Wed Jul 7 19:44:40 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:44:40 +0200 Subject: (rawhide) kde-panel flickers badly References: <200407071913.47566.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: thanks for answering! maybe you can confirm the bahavior here? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127224 best lars > Not seeing flicker, but the last few days on starting Rawhide KDE, I am > seeing > no "buttons" for active apps. Only when I resize the panel and start a > new process do they appear and work properly from then on. > > - -Andy > > - -- > Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players > http://warmcat.com/usbautocam > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFA7D1ajKeDCxMJCTIRApMTAJsGsvfsCI+7qo+gpmasj51flj8jKACfSuWb > 8/uUX3OOLyAAJVJLtTYUtaU= > =SeHk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From mark at talios.com Wed Jul 7 19:46:59 2004 From: mark at talios.com (Mark Derricutt) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:46:59 +1200 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <1089209389.4669.9.camel@orion> References: <1089109788.3842.7.camel@matrix> <1089113410.3855.4.camel@matrix> <200407060958.10702.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1089163559.5136.1.camel@matrix> <1089209389.4669.9.camel@orion> Message-ID: <40EC5333.9080202@talios.com> Steve Fink wrote: > Try re-running your nvidia installer script. It's a quick compile ( as its only a bridge ), one thing I though of was setting up a simple init.d process that kicks in before the graphical boot to recompile that bridge whenever the machine starts. Mark From mfedyk at matchmail.com Wed Jul 7 20:13:27 2004 From: mfedyk at matchmail.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:13:27 -0700 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <40EC5333.9080202@talios.com> References: <1089109788.3842.7.camel@matrix> <1089113410.3855.4.camel@matrix> <200407060958.10702.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1089163559.5136.1.camel@matrix> <1089209389.4669.9.camel@orion> <40EC5333.9080202@talios.com> Message-ID: <40EC5967.5090405@matchmail.com> Mark Derricutt wrote: > Steve Fink wrote: > >> Try re-running your nvidia installer script. > > > It's a quick compile ( as its only a bridge ), one thing I though of > was setting up a simple init.d process that kicks in before the > graphical boot to recompile that bridge whenever the machine starts. It would be better to check if the kernel files are newer than your nvidia bridge module before calling gcc... From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Wed Jul 7 20:30:09 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:30:09 +0100 Subject: New Nvidia driver with 4k stack support is out In-Reply-To: <40EC5333.9080202@talios.com> References: <1089109788.3842.7.camel@matrix> <1089113410.3855.4.camel@matrix> <200407060958.10702.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1089163559.5136.1.camel@matrix> <1089209389.4669.9.camel@orion> <40EC5333.9080202@talios.com> Message-ID: <20040707203009.GA11192@nsk.no-ip.org> On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 07:46:59AM +1200, Mark Derricutt wrote: > Steve Fink wrote: > > >Try re-running your nvidia installer script. > > It's a quick compile ( as its only a bridge ), one thing I though of was > setting up a simple init.d process that kicks in before the graphical > boot to recompile that bridge whenever the machine starts. > > Mark Here's what I have in my rc.local: modprobe -q nvidia || (cd /root/NVIDIA*/usr/src/nv && make clean && make install) With the NVidia package uncompressed in /root: cd /root && sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run -x Regards, Luciano Rocha -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Jul 7 20:46:54 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:46:54 +0100 Subject: /sbin/lsusb seems jiggered Message-ID: <1089233214.24740.8.camel@T7.linux> Hi, If I issue /sbin/lsusb, all I get out is Unknown line at line 4977 This repeats upto line 5004. Is it jiggered in rawhide? TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bill From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Jul 7 21:15:01 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:15:01 +0100 Subject: /sbin/lsusb seems jiggered In-Reply-To: <20040707205644.GA32494@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1089233214.24740.8.camel@T7.linux> <20040707205644.GA32494@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1089234901.24740.13.camel@T7.linux> Hi Bill, > Please file a bug. Done. Bug #127415 TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com Wed Jul 7 22:12:41 2004 From: Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com (Ow Mun Heng) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 15:12:41 -0700 Subject: BUG? FC2 Kernel Panic with PCMCIA CF Card In-Reply-To: <1089151062.4985.29.camel@neuromancer.home.net> References: <1089151062.4985.29.camel@neuromancer.home.net> Message-ID: <1089238361.22672.0.camel@neuromancer.home.net> Should I file a bug?? (No one answered in the fedora-list, thought I try out here 1st) On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 14:57, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > Hi, > > Should I file a bug report? Also, searching through bugzilla, ide_info > is definately not in FC2 as well as FC3-test. ( i don't think I'm gonna > worry about it though) > > Description of Problem: > Kernel will hard_hang after subsequent > insertion/mounting/unmounting/re-insert/re-mount/re-unmount of a CF card > into a PCMCIA adapter. > > Only seen on high capacity CF Card(512MB, not seen on 64MB, 32Mb and > 16MB card) > > Network connectivity is also lost. This is seen in both the > 2.6.7(kernel.org) and the FC2 2.6.6-1.435 kernels > > Issue is not seen under RH9 system running 2.6.3 kernel. Tested and > verified > > System Info > Distro : FC2/RH9 > Kerne : 2.6.6-1.435, 2.6.7, 2.6.3(RH9) > Laptop : Dell D600 > pcmcia-cs-3.2.7-1.5.i386.rpm > kernel options root=/dev/hda9 resume=/dev/hda5 ro > > CF Card Tested > product info: "SanDisk", "SDP", "5/3 0.6" (problematic 512MB) > manfid: 0x0045, 0x0401 > function: 4 (fixed disk) > > product info: "SunDisk", "SDP", "5/3 0.6" (OK 32MB) > manfid: 0x0045, 0x0401 > function: 4 (fixed disk) > > product info: "64MB", " " (OK 64MB PQI) > manfid: 0x0000, 0x0000 > function: 4 (fixed disk) > > > > How reproducible: > Always for 512mb Card. Seldom for smaller capacity. > Reproducible for few Kernel versions on FC2. > Not reproducible on RH9 (2.6.3 kernel) on same Laptop > > Steps to Reproduce > 1. Insert Card > 2. Mount Card > 3. Unmount Card > 4. Eject > 5. Insert card > 6. Mount Card > 7. Unmount Card > 8. Eject Card > 9. Kernel Panic found in syslog (system still OK) > 10. Insert Card (Full Kernel Hang. Reboot) > > Expected Result: > Card should mount and unmount fine > > Relevent Lines from /var/log/messages > ====kernel 2.6.6-1.435====== > kernel: hde: SanDisk SDCFB-512, DISK drive > kernel: ide2 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e irq 3 > kernel: hde: max request 128KiB > kernel: hde: 1000944 sectors MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=993/16/63 > kernel: hde: hde1 > kernel: ide-cs: hde: Vcc 3.3, Vpp = 0.0 > cardmgr[4049]: executing: './ide start 2>&1' > cardmgr[4049]: + ./ide: line /sbin/ide_info: No such file or directory > kernel: hde: hde1 > cardmgr[4049]: executing: './ide stop 2>&1' > cardmgr[4049]: + ./ide: line /sbin/ide_info: No such file or directory > cardmgr[4049]: socket 0: ATA/IDE Disk > kernel: hde: SanDisk SDCFB-512, DISK drive > kernel: ide2 at 0x110-0x117,0x11e irq 3 > kernel: hde: max request 128KiB > kernel: hde: 1000944 sectors MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=993/16/63 > kernel: hde: hde1 > kernel: ide-cs: hde: Vcc 3.3, Vpp = 0.0 > cardmgr[4049]: executing: './ide start 2>&1' > cardmgr[4049]: + ./ide: line /sbin/ide_info: No such file or directory > kernel: hde: hde1 > kernel: Unable to handle paging request at virtual address 5f6f6974 > kernel: printing eip: > kernel: 021e1053 > kernel: *pde = 00000000 > kernel: Oops: 0000 [#1] > kernel: Modules linked in: yenta_socket radeon autofs4 sunrpc 3c589_cs ds pcmcia_core tg3 snd_mixer_oss snd_in > tel8x0 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm snd_timer gameport snd_mpu401_uart > kernel: CPU: 0 > kernel: EIP: 0060:[<021e1053>] Not tainted > kernel: EFLAGS: 00010002 (2.6.6-1.435) > kernel: EIP is at > kernel: eax: 5f6f6970 ebx: 00000084 ecx: 09a43628 edx: 00000000 > kernel: esi: 00000021 edi: 0237c090 ebp: 022de668 esp: 09d3df14 > kernel: ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 > kernel: Process pccardd (pid: threadinfo=09d3d000 task=0b06af30) > kernel: Stack: 00000000 00000246 0237c3f0 0237c238 21f75338 0237c080 021f4bd2 > kernel: 0ae63974 ffffffff 00000001 00000002 21f75738 21f75738 21f757b0 213e4c2c > kernel: 22b61732 21f75638 00000008 00000001 22b617df 22b68150 213e4c2c 213e4d90 > kernel: Call Trace: > kernel: [<021f4bd2>] ide_unregister+0x30d/0x3b2 > kernel: [<22b61732>] ide_release+0x1c/0x7f > kernel: [<22b617df>] ide_event+0x4a/0x8f > kernel: [<22b68150>] send_event+0x35/0x4c > kernel: [<22b68179>] socket_remove_drivers+0x12/0x2c > kernel: [<22b6819b>] socket_shutdown+0x8/0x44 > kernel: [<22b685ef>] socket_remove+0x8/0x34 > kernel: [<22b68664>] socket_detect_change+0x49/0x5f > kernel: [<22b68780>] pccardd+0x106/0x19d > kernel: [<02115e4e>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc > kernel: [<02115e4e>] default_wake_function+0x0/0xc > kernel: [<22b6867a>] pccardd+0x0/0x19d > kernel: [<021041d9>] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0xb > kernel: > kernel: Code: 39 70 74 07 83 38 00 89 c1 75 f2 8b 11 85 d2 17 8 > > > > > > > > > -- > Ow Mun Heng > Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel > 2.6.7-2.jul1-interactive > Neuromancer 14:28:29 up 10 min, 4 users, load average: 0.16, 0.97, 0.69 -- Ow Mun Heng Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel 2.6.7-2.jul1-interactive Neuromancer 15:12:08 up 1:34, 6 users, load average: 0.88, 0.63, 0.65 From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Jul 7 22:41:47 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:41:47 -0500 Subject: Evo-1.5 latest build Message-ID: <1089240107.8013.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> I saw this was being built last night, but take it that it either takes awhile to compile/build the packages, or ran into problems? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From markf78 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 8 00:40:48 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Core 3 Message-ID: <20040708004048.12176.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- i just noticed that a *preliminary* schedule has been placed at http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/. i'm curious... what are some of the goals for core 3? (i imagine getting selinux right is one of them). any informative links or comments would be appreciated. and, is FC3 test1 actually almost ready to be released? how time flies... seems just like yesterday we were doing FC2 test3! excited to start testing and bugzilling, mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Thu Jul 8 00:54:11 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:54:11 -0300 Subject: Core 3 In-Reply-To: <20040708004048.12176.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040708004048.12176.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40EC9B33.6030908@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Mark Fonnemann wrote: >Hello- > >i just noticed that a *preliminary* schedule has been placed at >http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/. i'm curious... what are some of >the goals for core 3? (i imagine getting selinux right is one of them). any >informative links or comments would be appreciated. and, is FC3 test1 actually >almost ready to be released? how time flies... seems just like yesterday we >were doing FC2 test3! > >excited to start testing and bugzilling, >mark. :-) > > Mark, There's been a lot of discussion about FC3 on fedora-devel-list. You're right.. SELinux is one of the goals.. Also udev and a few more things... More details on http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-July/msg00056.html and all the messages that followed... -- Pedro Macedo From mrsam at courier-mta.com Thu Jul 8 01:54:31 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:54:31 -0400 Subject: gnome-bluetooth when not root. Message-ID: bluetooth:// shows my devices only when I'm logged in as root. Is this right? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You have to recompile ndiswrapper for each new kernel that you install, but it works on my laptop that has broadcom gigabit and wlan. Mike -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Dima Gutzeit Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:48 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Broadcom net drivers for FC2 Hi all , I am installing FC2 with all the updates on DL140 HP Proliant server. It has a Gigabit Broadcom network adapter. The problem is that those adapters are being recognized by FC2. Does anyone has a solution for it ? -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ernesto at ornl.gov Thu Jul 8 14:10:20 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 10:10:20 -0400 Subject: Evo-1.5 latest build Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A09CE@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Mike Chambers Sent: Wed 7/7/2004 6:41 PM To: Fedora Beta Subject: Evo-1.5 latest build I saw this was being built last night, but take it that it either takes awhile to compile/build the packages, or ran into problems? =================================== The version that I got from rawhide is unstable now. Causing me to have to use kmail for a mail client. The application is crashing in relation to the address book. Could you put the latest build as a RPM on rawhide? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From geoff at direcway.com Thu Jul 8 16:17:25 2004 From: geoff at direcway.com (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:17:25 -0700 Subject: Broadcom net drivers for FC2 In-Reply-To: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> Message-ID: <20040708161725.GA2769@mtranch.mtranch.com> On 07.08 05:48, Dima Gutzeit wrote: > I am installing FC2 with all the updates on DL140 HP Proliant server. > It has > a Gigabit Broadcom network adapter. > The problem is that those adapters are being recognized by FC2. Have you checked the Broadcom web site? From terraformers at gmx.net Thu Jul 8 16:21:42 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:21:42 +0200 Subject: xmms segfaults on custom kernel based on kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.476 Message-ID: hi testing a kernel based on kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.476 i get an segfault trying to run xmms-1.2.10-4 the kernel says: Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: bad: xmms(4208) scheduling while atomic (2)! Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] schedule+0x76/0x45d Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] sys_sched_yield+0x3a/0x40 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] coredump_wait+0x2b/0x82 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_coredump+0xcf/0x1c3 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] __dequeue_signal+0x132/0x13b Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] dequeue_signal+0x15/0x54 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] get_signal_to_deliver+0x2cd/0x32b Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_signal+0x4e/0xc6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] vma_link+0x45/0xd2 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_mmap_pgoff+0x4b0/0x5d6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] sys_mmap2+0x6e/0xa1 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x0/0x47f Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x36 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] work_notifysig+0x13/0x15 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: bad: xmms(4208) scheduling while atomic (2)! Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] schedule+0x76/0x45d Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] activate_task+0x53/0x5e Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] wait_for_completion+0x10/0xca Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] signal_wake_up+0x18/0x19 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] specific_send_sig_info+0x86/0x8d Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] zap_threads+0x68/0x9e Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] coredump_wait+0x5b/0x82 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_coredump+0xcf/0x1c3 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] __dequeue_signal+0x132/0x13b Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] dequeue_signal+0x15/0x54 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] get_signal_to_deliver+0x2cd/0x32b Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_signal+0x4e/0xc6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] vma_link+0x45/0xd2 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_mmap_pgoff+0x4b0/0x5d6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] sys_mmap2+0x6e/0xa1 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x0/0x47f Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x36 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] work_notifysig+0x13/0x15 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: note: xmms[4208] exited with preempt_count 1 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: bad: xmms(4208) scheduling while atomic (1)! Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] schedule+0x76/0x45d Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] release_console_sem+0x8b/0xc0 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] mm_release+0x47/0x7c Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_exit+0xcc/0x36d Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] sys_exit_group+0x0/0xd Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] get_signal_to_deliver+0x306/0x32b Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_signal+0x4e/0xc6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] vma_link+0x45/0xd2 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_mmap_pgoff+0x4b0/0x5d6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] sys_mmap2+0x6e/0xa1 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x0/0x47f Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x36 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] work_notifysig+0x13/0x15 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: bad: xmms(4208) scheduling while atomic (1)! Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] schedule+0x76/0x45d Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] __fput+0xd1/0xf1 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] put_files_struct+0x5b/0xae Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_exit+0x1d9/0x36d Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] sys_exit_group+0x0/0xd Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] get_signal_to_deliver+0x306/0x32b Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_signal+0x4e/0xc6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] vma_link+0x45/0xd2 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_mmap_pgoff+0x4b0/0x5d6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] sys_mmap2+0x6e/0xa1 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x0/0x47f Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x36 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] work_notifysig+0x13/0x15 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: bad: xmms(4208) scheduling while atomic (1)! Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] schedule+0x76/0x45d Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] __fput+0xd1/0xf1 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] put_files_struct+0x5b/0xae Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_exit+0x1d9/0x36d Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] sys_exit_group+0x0/0xd Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] get_signal_to_deliver+0x306/0x32b Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_signal+0x4e/0xc6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] vma_link+0x45/0xd2 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_mmap_pgoff+0x4b0/0x5d6 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] sys_mmap2+0x6e/0xa1 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x0/0x47f Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x36 Jul 8 18:00:49 bigbadmachine kernel: [] work_notifysig+0x13/0x15 guess it has something todo with the voluntary preemption patch? the precompiled kernel works ok with xmms, and i have seen that preempt is disabled and preemp_voluntary is enabled in this one. i have both enabled in my custom config, and everything plays nice and speedy so far, with the exception of xmms. haven't found any info about preempt_voluntary on the web, so my question is, can one use preempt and preempt_voluntary together, or is it a silly idea? best lars From arjanv at redhat.com Thu Jul 8 16:26:55 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:26:55 +0200 Subject: xmms segfaults on custom kernel based on kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.476 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1089304015.2804.10.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> > haven't found any info about preempt_voluntary on the web, so my question > is, can one use preempt and preempt_voluntary together, or > is it a silly idea? no you can't use both together. 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From arjanv at redhat.com Thu Jul 8 17:17:14 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:17:14 +0200 Subject: xmms segfaults on custom kernel based on kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.476 In-Reply-To: References: <1089304015.2804.10.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <1089307034.2804.12.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 19:03, Lars wrote: > thanks for answering! > with preempt_voluntary only, it's OK again. > do i loose speed (on the desktop) when using this new option? no, to the contrary, interactive performance should be really good with it. (it's already really good without it, but things can be better always of course ;) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(it's already really good without it, but things can be better always > of course ;) From nkadel at merl.com Thu Jul 8 20:29:40 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:29:40 -0400 Subject: Broadcom net drivers for FC2 References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> Message-ID: <006f01c4652a$4bf66fd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dima Gutzeit" To: Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: Broadcom net drivers for FC2 > Hi all , > > I am installing FC2 with all the updates on DL140 HP Proliant server. It has > a Gigabit Broadcom network adapter. > The problem is that those adapters are being recognized by FC2. > > Does anyone has a solution for it ? Grab the most recent kernels from the update sites and install them via CD? I've had good success doing that with various ASUS motherboards and Fedora Core 1. But "a Gigabit Broadcom network adapter" is not specific enough to point you to specific kernels or updated drivers. From lynn at garlic.com Thu Jul 8 20:50:19 2004 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:50:19 -0600 Subject: mozilla freezes FC2 machine(?) In-Reply-To: <20040708141225.551B273685@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040708141225.551B273685@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1089319818.3494.29.camel@lhwlinux> for the past 3-4 weeks or so ... i've gotten very sporadic machine freezes (nothing is running and have to power cycle) when mozilla is loading some website. Happens with mozilla 1.7 thru 1.8a thru current nightly builds. happens whether new website is being loaded into visable tab or background tab. mozilla's is running with java, javascript, popups, etc all disabled. happens up thru smp kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 machine is new dell 8100 with threading enabled and a SMP kernel. did not happen with earlier fc2 (smp) kernels prior to 4 weeks or so ago. doesn't seem to be mozilla since was using some of the same mozillas prior to the freezing appearing. by the time I noticed it happening, I had deleted earlier kernels where the freezes weren't happening. the mozilla web page load issue is the only situation that i've observed it happening. From dima at mailvision.net Thu Jul 8 23:11:07 2004 From: dima at mailvision.net (Dima Gutzeit) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 01:11:07 +0200 Subject: ide_scsi module on FC2 References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> <006f01c4652a$4bf66fd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> Dear list members , Recently I've installed FC2 and tried to use a backup solution I used before that (Tapeware) with IDE tape drive. It does not work ... After discussing the issue with Tapeware support it appears that they need the device to be listed in /proc/scsi/scsi , which could be achived , on older versions , by using ide_scsi kernel module. 2.6 release of kernel lacks this module ... Can I somehow recompile the 2.6.6 kernel to include this module ? Is it possible ? Is there any workaround ? Thanks in advance for your help. From mrsam at courier-mta.com Thu Jul 8 23:33:12 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:33:12 -0400 Subject: ide_scsi module on FC2 References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> <006f01c4652a$4bf66fd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> Message-ID: Dima Gutzeit writes: > Dear list members , > > Recently I've installed FC2 and tried to use a backup solution I used before > that (Tapeware) with IDE tape drive. It does not work ... After discussing > the issue with Tapeware support it appears that they need the device to be > listed in /proc/scsi/scsi , which could be achived , on older versions , by > using ide_scsi kernel module. ide_scsi has been deprecated in the 2.6 kernel. Advise Tapeware support that unless they get their act together pretty quick, their software will become quickly obsolete, as everyone migrates to 2.6. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Vital Product Data Capabilities: [58] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/3 Enable- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wrrhdev at riede.org Thu Jul 8 23:55:17 2004 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 19:55:17 -0400 Subject: ide_scsi module on FC2 In-Reply-To: <001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> (from dima@mailvision.net on Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 19:11:07 -0400) References: <006f01c4652a$4bf66fd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> Message-ID: <20040708235517.GY6730@serve.riede.org> On 07/08/2004 07:11:07 PM, Dima Gutzeit wrote: > Dear list members , > > Recently I've installed FC2 and tried to use a backup solution I used before > that (Tapeware) with IDE tape drive. It does not work ... After discussing > the issue with Tapeware support it appears that they need the device to be > listed in /proc/scsi/scsi , which could be achived , on older versions , by > using ide_scsi kernel module. > > 2.6 release of kernel lacks this module ... Can I somehow recompile the > 2.6.6 kernel to include this module ? Is it possible ? Unfortunately, FC2 kernels do not have ide-scsi pre-compiled, so if you need to use it, you'll have to compile it yourself... If you've never done that before, as root, cd to /usr/src/linux-2.6.6-1.435.2.3, copy the config file matching your kernel architecture from configs to .config (you can also copy /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.435.2.3/build/.config), run make xconfig, enable SCSI emulation support, found under ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support. Exit xconfig saving the changes, compile the kernel with # make all # make modules_install # make install (or # installkernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3custom arch/i386/boot/bzImage System.map). Reboot and select your new kernel. Success, Willem Riede. PS - Arjan, you've never told me why you are not re-enabling ide-scsi, or under what conditions you would be prepared to so (so that those of us that need it for our tape drives don't have to suffer). From wrrhdev at riede.org Fri Jul 9 00:00:36 2004 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:00:36 -0400 Subject: ide_scsi module on FC2 In-Reply-To: (from mrsam@courier-mta.com on Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 19:33:12 -0400) References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> <006f01c4652a$4bf66fd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> Message-ID: <20040709000036.GC6730@serve.riede.org> On 07/08/2004 07:33:12 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Dima Gutzeit writes: > > ide_scsi has been deprecated in the 2.6 kernel. Advise Tapeware support > that unless they get their act together pretty quick, their software will > become quickly obsolete, as everyone migrates to 2.6. NOT true. In Linus' 2.6 kernel, ide-scsi is only depricated for CD-class drives. There is no alternative for other ATAPI drives, and therefor ide-scsi will stay in the 2.6 kernel forever. It is just Arjan that refuses to compile it :-( Willem Riede. From mk at crc.dk Fri Jul 9 06:47:18 2004 From: mk at crc.dk (Mogens Kjaer) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 08:47:18 +0200 Subject: Broadcom net drivers for FC2 In-Reply-To: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> Message-ID: <40EE3F76.6000404@crc.dk> Dima Gutzeit wrote: > Hi all , > > I am installing FC2 with all the updates on DL140 HP Proliant server. It has > a Gigabit Broadcom network adapter. > The problem is that those adapters are being recognized by FC2. Does the last statement miss a "not", or is the problem that the wrong driver (tg3) is loaded? You can get the driver from HP: http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/20317.html Have the kernel source installed before installing the bcm5700 src.rpm. Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: mk at crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk From arjanv at redhat.com Fri Jul 9 06:57:35 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 08:57:35 +0200 Subject: Broadcom net drivers for FC2 In-Reply-To: <40EE3F76.6000404@crc.dk> References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> <40EE3F76.6000404@crc.dk> Message-ID: <1089356251.2805.4.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 08:47, Mogens Kjaer wrote: > Dima Gutzeit wrote: > > Hi all , > > > > I am installing FC2 with all the updates on DL140 HP Proliant server. It has > > a Gigabit Broadcom network adapter. > > The problem is that those adapters are being recognized by FC2. > > Does the last statement miss a "not", or is the problem > that the wrong driver (tg3) is loaded? tg3 is not generally the wrong driver but the right one for this hardware... What's the PCI ID, what does the tg3 driver report when you try to load it .. etc etc. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dima at mailvision.net Fri Jul 9 08:09:24 2004 From: dima at mailvision.net (Dima Gutzeit) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:09:24 +0200 Subject: ide_scsi module on FC2 References: <006f01c4652a$4bf66fd0$b28ccb89@zeppo><001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> <20040708235517.GY6730@serve.riede.org> Message-ID: <003d01c4658c$0cb79080$7c4817ac@DIMA> Thank you very much for such detailed answer. I'll do that. P.S. - Why is it disabled ? Does it offend some other module or something ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willem Riede" To: Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 1:55 AM Subject: Re: ide_scsi module on FC2 > On 07/08/2004 07:11:07 PM, Dima Gutzeit wrote: > > Dear list members , > > > > Recently I've installed FC2 and tried to use a backup solution I used before > > that (Tapeware) with IDE tape drive. It does not work ... After discussing > > the issue with Tapeware support it appears that they need the device to be > > listed in /proc/scsi/scsi , which could be achived , on older versions , by > > using ide_scsi kernel module. > > > > 2.6 release of kernel lacks this module ... Can I somehow recompile the > > 2.6.6 kernel to include this module ? Is it possible ? > > > Unfortunately, FC2 kernels do not have ide-scsi pre-compiled, so if you need > to use it, you'll have to compile it yourself... > > If you've never done that before, as root, cd to > /usr/src/linux-2.6.6-1.435.2.3, > copy the config file matching your kernel architecture from configs to .config > (you can also copy /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.435.2.3/build/.config), run make > xconfig, > enable SCSI emulation support, found under ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support. > Exit xconfig saving the changes, compile the kernel with > # make all > # make modules_install > # make install > (or # installkernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3custom arch/i386/boot/bzImage System.map). > Reboot and select your new kernel. > > Success, Willem Riede. > > PS - Arjan, you've never told me why you are not re-enabling ide-scsi, or under > what conditions you would be prepared to so (so that those of us that need it > for our tape drives don't have to suffer). > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From mk at crc.dk Fri Jul 9 08:01:29 2004 From: mk at crc.dk (Mogens Kjaer) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:01:29 +0200 Subject: Broadcom net drivers for FC2 In-Reply-To: <1089356251.2805.4.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> <40EE3F76.6000404@crc.dk> <1089356251.2805.4.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <40EE50D9.8040409@crc.dk> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 08:47, Mogens Kjaer wrote: > >>Dima Gutzeit wrote: >> >>>Hi all , >>> >>>I am installing FC2 with all the updates on DL140 HP Proliant server. It has >>>a Gigabit Broadcom network adapter. >>>The problem is that those adapters are being recognized by FC2. >> >>Does the last statement miss a "not", or is the problem >>that the wrong driver (tg3) is loaded? > > > tg3 is not generally the wrong driver but the right one for this > hardware... > What's the PCI ID, what does the tg3 driver report when you try to load > it .. etc etc. In my case, I choose bcm5700 because HP's hpasm (HP Advanced System Management) software complained on a rh9 machine: Jun 8 07:12:49 mail hpasm: WARNING: Jun 8 07:12:49 mail hpasm: Unsupported tg3 driver loaded, please use the tested and supported bcm5700 So on what hardware would I use the tg3 driver and when should I use the bcm5700 driver? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: mk at crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Fri Jul 9 10:55:48 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:55:48 +0100 Subject: smbmount and $homes with samba Message-ID: <1089370549.7931.12.camel@datacc> For some reason smbmount refuses point-blank to mount samba home shares useably eg: this is on the same machine mount -t smbfs -o username=mike,password=******* //data_cc/datacc /home/mike/smbtest opts: rw opts: username=mike opts: password=tuxopen mount.smbfs started (version 3.0.3-5) added interface ip=192.168.1.6 bcast=192.168.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 Connecting to 192.168.1.6 at port 445 5647: tree connect failed: Call returned zero bytes (EOF) SMB connection failed Other machine mount -t smbfs -o username=mike,password=********,ip=192.168.1.6 //data_cc/mike /mnt/test [root at localhost root]# ls /mnt/test ls: /mnt/test: No such file or directory ls -l drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 Jul 9 10:36 data drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 Jan 1 1970 floppy drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 25 18:22 src ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? test Global shares mount fine - anyone any idea what is going on here. From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Fri Jul 9 10:55:48 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:55:48 +0100 Subject: smbmount and $homes with samba Message-ID: <1089370549.7931.12.camel@datacc> For some reason smbmount refuses point-blank to mount samba home shares useably eg: this is on the same machine mount -t smbfs -o username=mike,password=******* //data_cc/datacc /home/mike/smbtest opts: rw opts: username=mike opts: password=tuxopen mount.smbfs started (version 3.0.3-5) added interface ip=192.168.1.6 bcast=192.168.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 Connecting to 192.168.1.6 at port 445 5647: tree connect failed: Call returned zero bytes (EOF) SMB connection failed Other machine mount -t smbfs -o username=mike,password=********,ip=192.168.1.6 //data_cc/mike /mnt/test [root at localhost root]# ls /mnt/test ls: /mnt/test: No such file or directory ls -l drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 Jul 9 10:36 data drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 Jan 1 1970 floppy drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 25 18:22 src ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? test Global shares mount fine - anyone any idea what is going on here. From alan at redhat.com Fri Jul 9 16:43:55 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:43:55 -0400 Subject: ide_scsi module on FC2 In-Reply-To: <001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> References: <006f01c4652a$4bf66fd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> Message-ID: <20040709164355.GA7379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 01:11:07AM +0200, Dima Gutzeit wrote: > 2.6 release of kernel lacks this module ... Can I somehow recompile the > 2.6.6 kernel to include this module ? Is it possible ? > Is there any workaround ? You can certainly recompile the kernel toa dd the ide-scsi module From alan at redhat.com Fri Jul 9 16:45:47 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:45:47 -0400 Subject: ide_scsi module on FC2 In-Reply-To: References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> <006f01c4652a$4bf66fd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> Message-ID: <20040709164547.GB7379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> > ide_scsi has been deprecated in the 2.6 kernel. Advise Tapeware support > that unless they get their act together pretty quick, their software will > become quickly obsolete, as everyone migrates to 2.6. Please don't spread misinformation. ide-scsi is an essential part of the 2.6 kernel and beyond, and it is essential for IDE tape drivers and also for CD multichangers Its essentially a Red Hat misjudgement that it isn't included but when asked to put it back Arjan has pointed out that turning it back on for everyone mid release might cause problems in some setups. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Jul 9 16:55:47 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:55:47 +0100 Subject: Current kernel giving an error Message-ID: <1089392147.4630.2.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I seem to be getting an error with the latest kernel (2.6.7-1.476) svc : bad direction 256, aborting request No idea what it's trying to do, it doesn't seem to be holding up the system, just is a tad annoying when I'm doing anything via the terminal. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll do that. > > P.S. - Why is it disabled ? Does it offend some other module or something ? ide-scsi was an ugly, ugly, ugly hack to provide access to the SCSI command set for IDE devices. Almost all modern CD authoring tools, which particularly needed SCSI for the reasons above, now can handle the direct IDE drivers. This includes cdrecord and all the tools based on cdrecord, which is almost all of them including xine, xcdroast, and the various popular Linux DVD burning tools. ide-scsi is preserved for software drivers that insist on using SCSI for such device manipulations, such as some tape drives, the Zip drive parallel port drivers, multiple CD changers, CD. But it's so ugly and nasty to work with that, for people only using IDE based CD/RW drivers, I urge them to leave it turned *off* and use the newer versions of CD recording tools. From rpjday at mindspring.com Sat Jul 10 00:18:01 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: what's the current status of a july 12 test release? Message-ID: currently, the fedora schedule online suggests a july 12 test1 release? is this legitimate? rday From cochranb at speakeasy.net Sun Jul 11 01:44:03 2004 From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:44:03 -0400 Subject: AMD Athelon 64 FX In-Reply-To: <20040702152029.80316.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040702152029.80316.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1089510242.3134.26.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> So Fedora Core 2 should run fine on the Athlon 64 3800+ which is Socket 939? Using the Asus A8V motherboard or perhaps the more expensive Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP-939 board which has the NForce3 Ultra chipset. Thanks Bob Cochran Greenbelt, Maryland, USA On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 11:20, Jesse Hulsey wrote: > I have a FX-51 running on a Gigabyte k8nnxp-940 board > with 1GB of Corsair XMS, ECC, registered pc3200 ultra > low latency memory, radeon 9800pro ... I installed > from fedora core2 DVD. Everything works fine, runs > great, nice compile speeds. to answer the question, > yes very compatible. feel free to email if you have > any questions about it or my setup, I am also running > vmware gsx for linux on it with 4 vmachines. > > -Jesse Hulsey > jessehulsey at yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sun Jul 11 01:49:15 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 22:49:15 -0300 Subject: AMD Athelon 64 FX In-Reply-To: <1089510242.3134.26.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> References: <20040702152029.80316.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> <1089510242.3134.26.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: <40F09C9B.40509@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Robert L Cochran wrote: >So Fedora Core 2 should run fine on the Athlon 64 3800+ which is Socket >939? Using the Asus A8V motherboard or perhaps the more expensive >Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP-939 board which has the NForce3 Ultra chipset. > > > Well, it should run perfectly with fedora.. The only thing you should check is if all the onboard addons on the motherboard work with linux... -- Pedro Macedo From lynn at garlic.com Sun Jul 11 03:19:00 2004 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:19:00 -0600 Subject: mozilla freezes FC2 machine In-Reply-To: <20040709065748.E1AC273853@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040709065748.E1AC273853@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1089515940.5649.8.camel@lhwlinux> sporadic machine freeze with mozilla 1.7, 1.7.1, 1.8, nightly builds, etc. happens when loading new page either in displayed tab or background tab. happens with kde and gnome, smp and non-smp kernels. however it doesn't happen with mozilla 1.6 (shipped with fc2) machine frozen ... doesn't respond to any keys or mouse. doesn't respond to any network activity thru enet port. power (off) button doesn't respond ... have to pull the plug, plug it back in and then hit the power (on) button (power cycle) nothing in any log file. -- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ From hcstudt at post10.tele.dk Sun Jul 11 13:39:35 2004 From: hcstudt at post10.tele.dk (Hans Christian Studt) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:39:35 +0200 Subject: conflict between initscripts and pppd Message-ID: <20040711133935.FPXG16399.fepD.post.tele.dk@post.tele.dk> I have this problem while trying to update both when i am on-line and when i am not on-line. On-line ======= yum -y update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Released Updates Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .conflict between initscripts and pppd Off-line ======== yum -C -y update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Released Updates Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .conflict between initscripts and pppd Mvh Hans Christian Studt Private +45 48 79 79 89 Mobile +45 29 23 54 14 Business +45 36 14 54 14 mailto:hc at studt.dk http://hc.studt.dk Powered by Linux 2.6.6-1.435.2.1 From mattdm at mattdm.org Sun Jul 11 14:46:50 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:46:50 -0400 Subject: conflict between initscripts and pppd In-Reply-To: <20040711133935.FPXG16399.fepD.post.tele.dk@post.tele.dk> References: <20040711133935.FPXG16399.fepD.post.tele.dk@post.tele.dk> Message-ID: <20040711144650.GA31328@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 03:39:35PM +0200, Hans Christian Studt wrote: > I have this problem while trying to update both when i am on-line and when > i am not on-line. Yes. This isn't a question for the 'test' list, since you're talking about the actual FC2 release. Check out that list and you'll find many people asking and answering this question the last few days. (In summary: RPM wasn't handling PIE executables properly, and that caused it to expose a typo in the initscripts package which created a conflict with ppp.) It will be fixed soon. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From reader at newsguy.com Sun Jul 11 14:53:41 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:53:41 -0500 Subject: recent kernels.. and smbfs Message-ID: Are the newest rawhide kernels still defaulted to no smbfs? From arjanv at redhat.com Sun Jul 11 15:08:56 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:08:56 +0200 Subject: recent kernels.. and smbfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1089558535.2804.4.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Sun, 2004-07-11 at 16:53, Harry Putnam wrote: > Are the newest rawhide kernels still defaulted to no smbfs? even fc2 has smbfs again, although for newer windows servers you still should use cifs.... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun Jul 11 19:43:28 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:43:28 -0400 Subject: preempt_voluntary problems Message-ID: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> Hey, Using kernel 2.6.7-1.47 with latest devel packages with preempt_voluntary enabled seems to be crippling my interactivity. For example if I'm running simply 'make' to build vlc for example, while make is running gnome-terminal takes 20-30 seconds to switch between tabs. Many apps are responsive but it seems some like gnome-terminal are not. To say the least. Any idea what might be going on here? Just for verification I do only have preempt_voluntary enabled not preempt as well. Arjan? -sb -- Stan Bubrouski From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun Jul 11 23:51:03 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:51:03 -0400 Subject: Will evolution be coming to rawhide soon? Message-ID: <1089589863.4077.2.camel@matrix> Hi, Will evolution be coming to rawhide soon? ============================================== Evolution 2.0.0 RC1 Evolution Data Server 1.0.0 RC1 =============================================== I am having trouble when sending e-mail with the following version: evolution-1.5.9.2-1 When sending e-mail evolution crashes. Has anyone else seen this? -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From arjanv at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 06:54:35 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:54:35 +0200 Subject: preempt_voluntary problems In-Reply-To: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> References: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1089615275.2806.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Sun, 2004-07-11 at 21:43, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > Hey, > > Using kernel 2.6.7-1.47 with latest devel packages with > preempt_voluntary enabled seems to be crippling my interactivity. For > example if I'm running simply 'make' to build vlc for example, while > make is running gnome-terminal takes 20-30 seconds to switch between > tabs. Many apps are responsive but it seems some like gnome-terminal > are not. To say the least. Any idea what might be going on here? Just > for verification I do only have preempt_voluntary enabled not preempt as > well what's the exact details ? the fedora kernel rpm? 476? 478? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Jul 12 09:44:00 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:44:00 +0100 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic Message-ID: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks - Tracking Fedora Development on this machine with the automated nightly yum updates. Running kernel 2.6.7-1.478, but it has been the same for a week or two. Problem is that some sites load like treacle. For these site, you can see individual packets of text coming in about once a second or every few seconds. Other sites are fine. Here is a tcpdump of the bad behaviours, I notice a lot of nop,nop.nop actions, not sure how to interpret the TCP window sizes either. 10:35:00.689934 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33435 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1 win 45 10:35:00.691408 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33435 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: P 1:587(586) ack 1 win 45 10:35:00.708506 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33435: . ack 587 win 15798 10:35:00.727144 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33435: P 1:1401(1400) ack 587 win 16384 10:35:00.727215 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33435 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1401 win 65 10:35:06.137328 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 846:987(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:06.137395 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 987 win 141 10:35:10.729183 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33435: F 1401:1401(0) ack 587 win 16384 10:35:10.768476 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33435 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1402 win 65 10:35:11.606386 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 987:1128(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:11.606452 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1128 win 141 10:35:11.611410 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33435 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: F 587:587(0) ack 1402 win 65 10:35:11.611801 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: S 511096355:511096355(0) win 5840 10:35:11.622934 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33435: . ack 588 win 16384 10:35:11.627787 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436: S 633190833:633190833(0) ack 511096356 win 8760 10:35:11.627859 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1 win 45 10:35:11.630171 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: P 1:583(582) ack 1 win 45 10:35:11.644152 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436: . ack 583 win 15802 10:35:11.661815 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436: P 1449:1751(302) ack 583 win 16384 10:35:11.661886 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1 win 45 10:35:11.662626 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436: . 1:1449(1448) ack 583 win 16384 10:35:11.662658 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1751 win 67 10:35:17.075042 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 1128:1269(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:17.075126 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1269 win 141 10:35:21.665165 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436: F 1751:1751(0) ack 583 win 16384 10:35:21.704614 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1752 win 67 10:35:22.544657 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 1269:1410(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:22.544722 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1410 win 141 10:35:28.013860 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 1410:1551(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:28.013927 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1551 win 141 10:35:33.482512 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 1551:1692(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:33.482579 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1692 win 141 10:35:33.722905 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: F 583:583(0) ack 1752 win 67 10:35:33.735953 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33436: . ack 584 win 16384 10:35:38.951894 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 1692:1833(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:38.951961 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1833 win 141 10:35:44.420090 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 1833:1974(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:44.420157 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 1974 win 141 10:35:49.889778 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 1974:2115(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:49.889844 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 2115 win 141 10:35:55.357924 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 2115:2256(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:35:55.358005 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 2256 win 141 10:36:00.826987 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 2256:2397(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:36:00.827053 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 2397 win 141 10:36:06.295913 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418: . 2397:2538(141) ack 1 win 65535 10:36:06.295961 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33418 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: . ack 2538 win 141 10:36:06.299696 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33437 > cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache: S 555162417:555162417(0) win 5840 10:36:06.314991 IP cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net.webcache > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33437: S 815105876:815105876(0) ack 555162418 win 8760 My ISP runs a transparent webcache on port 80, in this example I set Firefox to use an explicit proxy on port 8080 instead. But the behaviour is identical if I go out on port 80 and through the default webcache (different to the one shown in this example) instead. Konqueror acts the same on this bad machine, it is not the browser. However, if I use my vnc session to another machine here, and get it to load the URL in Konqueror, whoosh. That is using the same IP and firewall and everything to go out, but still is running 2.6.7-1.437. Any ideas or interpretations of the tcpdump data? - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8l1gjKeDCxMJCTIRAimUAJsHU39UCRYfuOAv3EkBHe3hlKA7QACfeZrB T1ZhiSVIUiz+a3FCGGWWcXE= =ROdo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From twaugh at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 11:05:03 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:05:03 +0100 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 10:44:00AM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > Problem is that some sites load like treacle. For these site, you can see > individual packets of text coming in about once a second or every few > seconds. Other sites are fine. I am seeing this too -- and I have the same ISP. > Any ideas or interpretations of the tcpdump data? The 'win 45' stuff is meant to be scaled. At the beginning of the TCP connection you'll see 'wscale 7' from your end, i.e. 45<<7, i.e. 5760. Try 'echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling'. For me, this makes the problem go away entirely. So is this a Linux kernel problem, or a problem at the ISP's end? Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Jul 12 11:17:04 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:17:04 +0100 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200407121217.04084.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 12 July 2004 12:05, Tim Waugh wrote: Hi Tim - Thanks for your fast and informative reply! > The 'win 45' stuff is meant to be scaled. At the beginning of the TCP > connection you'll see 'wscale 7' from your end, i.e. 45<<7, i.e. 5760. Right, I heard of this but didn't put two and two together. > Try 'echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling'. For me, this > makes the problem go away entirely. Yes, me too, thanks for the tip. > So is this a Linux kernel problem, or a problem at the ISP's end? > I am seeing this too -- and I have the same ISP. Ho hum... trying to tell NTL they have a problem doesn't sound like fun. However... this other machine here with 2.6.7-1.437 says: [media at backup media]$ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling 1 and it does not exhibit the problem. Oh well, I'm happy with the workaround so far. Thanks again, - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFA8nMwjKeDCxMJCTIRAsC5AJiNJxF/cd4i3PU5DBxO3f/CiB01AJ9k+oGf PHodbxVlXx6v+XoHVLk02g== =bZPU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From arjanv at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 11:30:01 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:30:01 +0200 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1089631800.2806.10.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 13:05, Tim Waugh wrote: > So is this a Linux kernel problem, or a problem at the ISP's end? ISP problem; there is at least one brand of traffic shaper that is known to corrupt tcp streams like this (basically the in between box whacks the scaling factor to 0 without adjusting the rest of the tcp stream, or so the current theory goes) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From twaugh at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 11:36:44 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:36:44 +0100 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <1089631800.2806.10.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> <1089631800.2806.10.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <20040712113644.GQ29674@redhat.com> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 01:30:01PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > ISP problem; there is at least one brand of traffic shaper that is > known to corrupt tcp streams like this (basically the in between box > whacks the scaling factor to 0 without adjusting the rest of the tcp > stream, or so the current theory goes) So the best thing to do is to wait until the problem has been pinned down and the traffic shaper manufacturer named? Like Andy, I have been putting off the call to NTL, because I know exactly how that will go. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alan at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 11:54:38 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:54:38 -0400 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <20040712113644.GQ29674@redhat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> <1089631800.2806.10.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <20040712113644.GQ29674@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040712115438.GB25844@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 12:36:44PM +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > So the best thing to do is to wait until the problem has been pinned > down and the traffic shaper manufacturer named? If only some kernels show it then a trace to compare would also be interesting. > Like Andy, I have been putting off the call to NTL, because I know > exactly how that will go. If they have any left find an NTL cablemodem business customer and check the problem occurs for them too. NTL's service to the business customers is a bit better than to others. Alan (an ex NTL internet customer and very glad to be _ex_) From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Jul 12 12:17:43 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:17:43 +0100 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <20040712115438.GB25844@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712113644.GQ29674@redhat.com> <20040712115438.GB25844@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200407121317.43668.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 12 July 2004 12:54, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 12:36:44PM +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > > So the best thing to do is to wait until the problem has been pinned > > down and the traffic shaper manufacturer named? > > If only some kernels show it then a trace to compare would also be > interesting. Here are the two machines pulling the same page, http://www.pumaone.co.uk/services_PumaOneLite.asp, in Konqueror. Good guy (backup.cb.ath.cx) first, on the -437 kernel: [root at backup root]# tcpdump port 80 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 13:09:17.142256 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57130 > 66.102.11.104.http: F 4158299684:4158299684(0) ack 4099329492 win 7364 13:09:17.144824 IP 66.102.11.104.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57130: . ack 1 win 16384 13:09:17.159653 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: S 4213654806:4213654806(0) win 5840 13:09:17.166999 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: S 732246534:732246534(0) ack 4213654807 win 8760 13:09:17.167141 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1 win 5840 13:09:17.167799 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: P 1:353 (352) ack 1 win 5840 13:09:17.180520 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . ack 353 win 16384 13:09:17.196495 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: P 1:246 (245) ack 353 win 16384 13:09:17.196605 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 246 win 6432 13:09:17.198831 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: P 246:1449 (1203) ack 353 win 16384 13:09:17.198942 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1449 win 8421 13:09:17.199898 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 1449:2897 (1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.199991 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 2897 win 11584 13:09:17.235482 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 2897:4345 (1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.235598 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 4345 win 14480 13:09:17.236473 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 4345:5793 (1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.236521 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 5793 win 17376 13:09:17.245754 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 5793:7241 (1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.245876 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 7241 win 20272 13:09:17.259299 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 7241:8689 (1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.259419 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 8689 win 23168 13:09:17.274713 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 8689:10137(1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.274837 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 10137 win 26064 13:09:17.285921 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 10137:11585(1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.286059 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 11585 win 28960 13:09:17.294693 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 11585:13033(1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.294783 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 13033 win 31856 13:09:17.305688 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 13033:14481(1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.318869 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 14481:15929(1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.327253 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 14481 win 34752 13:09:17.327321 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 15929 win 37648 13:09:17.330465 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 15929:17377(1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.330622 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 17377 win 40544 13:09:17.342551 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 17377:18825(1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.342702 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 18825 win 43440 13:09:17.354928 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 18825:20273(1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.355111 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 20273 win 46336 13:09:17.366094 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . 20273:21721(1448) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.366251 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 21721 win 49232 13:09:17.380691 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: P 21721:22869(1148) ack 353 win 65151 13:09:17.380844 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 22869 win 49232 13:09:17.381418 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: F 353:353 (0) ack 22869 win 49232 13:09:17.391965 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: . ack 354 win 16384 13:09:17.392185 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: F 22869:22869(0) ack 354 win 16384 13:09:17.392240 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 22870 win 49232 13:09:17.754390 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: S 4217780483:4217780483(0) win 5840 13:09:17.763084 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57133: S 182153044:182153044(0) ack 4217780484 win 8760 13:09:17.763207 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 1 win 5840 13:09:17.764099 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: P 1:364(363) ack 1 win 5840 13:09:17.827216 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57133: . ack 364 win 16384 13:09:18.009521 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57133: . 1:1449(1448) ack 364 win 16384 13:09:18.009596 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 1449 win 8688 13:09:18.009988 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57133: P 1449:1817(368) ack 364 win 16384 13:09:18.010036 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 1817 win 11584 13:09:18.013597 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57133: P 1817:1822(5) ack 364 win 16384 13:09:18.013710 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 1822 win 11584 13:09:18.525440 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: P 364:1093(729) ack 1822 win 11584 13:09:18.652162 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57133: . ack 1093 win 16384 13:09:18.731087 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57133: P 1822:2299(477) ack 1093 win 16384 13:09:18.731190 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 2299 win 14480 13:09:19.528353 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57134 > mail.pumaone.net.http: S 4223422734:4223422734(0) win 5840 13:09:19.536303 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57134: S 747670089:747670089(0) ack 4223422735 win 8760 13:09:19.536428 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57134 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1 win 5840 13:09:19.537189 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57134 > mail.pumaone.net.http: P 1:689 (688) ack 1 win 5840 13:09:19.552315 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: F 1093:1093(0) ack 2299 win 14480 13:09:19.557117 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57135 > mail.pumaone.net.http: S 4217132485:4217132485(0) win 5840 13:09:19.559870 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57133: . ack 1094 win 16384 13:09:19.560088 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57133: F 2299:2299(0) ack 1094 win 16384 13:09:19.560144 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57133 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 2300 win 14480 13:09:19.564784 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57135: S 747990723:747990723(0) ack 4217132486 win 8760 13:09:19.564888 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57135 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1 win 5840 13:09:19.565842 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57135 > mail.pumaone.net.http: P 1:690 (689) ack 1 win 5840 13:09:19.597969 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57134: . ack 689 win 16384 13:09:19.618882 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57134: P 1:402 (401) ack 689 win 16384 13:09:19.618988 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57134 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 402 win 6432 13:09:19.634199 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57135: . ack 690 win 16384 13:09:19.646911 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57135: . 1:1449 (1448) ack 690 win 16384 13:09:19.647044 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57135 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1449 win 8688 13:09:19.646942 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57135: P 1449:1811 (362) ack 690 win 16384 13:09:19.647100 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57135 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1811 win 11584 13:09:19.656952 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57135 > mail.pumaone.net.http: F 690:690 (0) ack 1811 win 11584 13:09:19.668494 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57135: . ack 691 win 16384 13:09:19.668711 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57135: F 1811:1811 (0) ack 691 win 16384 13:09:19.668785 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57135 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1812 win 11584 13:09:29.630019 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57134: F 402:402 (0) ack 689 win 16384 13:09:29.669234 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57134 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 403 win 6432 Now the possible bad boy, -478, again in Konqueror. I stopped the tcpdump after a minute or so with nothing showing in the browser. [root at fastcat root]# tcpdump port 80 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 13:12:52.774832 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: S 1895838732:1895838732(0) win 5840 13:12:52.784397 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: S 3086153146:3086153146(0) ack 1895838733 win 8760 13:12:52.784462 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1 win 45 13:12:52.785744 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: P 1:376 (375) ack 1 win 45 13:12:52.799930 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . ack 376 win 16009 13:12:52.815713 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: P 1:246 (245) ack 376 win 16384 13:12:52.815790 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 246 win 50 13:12:52.816402 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: P 246:1449(1203) ack 376 win 16384 13:12:52.816432 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1449 win 65 13:12:52.828604 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 1449:2897(1448) ack 376 win 65128 13:12:52.828687 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 2897 win 90 13:12:54.057460 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: S 1907877772:1907877772(0) win 5840 13:12:54.064887 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648: S 2584857692:2584857692(0) ack 1907877773 win 8760 13:12:54.064957 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 1 win 45 13:12:54.072130 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: P 1:387(386) ack 1 win 45 13:12:54.083409 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648: . ack 387 win 15998 13:12:54.482192 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648: . 1:1449(1448) ack 387 win 16384 13:12:54.482269 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 1449 win 67 13:12:54.482290 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648: P 1449:1817(368) ack 387 win 16384 13:12:54.482317 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 1817 win 90 13:12:54.482329 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648: P 1817:1822(5) ack 387 win 16384 13:12:54.482351 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 1822 win 90 13:12:58.235161 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 2897:2987(90) ack 376 win 65128 13:12:58.235713 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 2987 win 90 13:12:58.298608 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: P 387:1139(752) ack 1822 win 90 13:12:58.436377 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648: . ack 1139 win 16384 13:12:58.515139 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648: P 1822:2299(477) ack 1139 win 16384 13:12:58.515207 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 2299 win 113 13:13:03.704487 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 2987:3077(90) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:03.704665 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3077 win 94 13:13:08.508142 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648: F 2299:2299(0) ack 1139 win 16384 13:13:08.547422 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: . ack 2300 win 113 13:13:09.173329 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3077:3171(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:09.173892 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3171 win 94 13:13:14.642176 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3171:3265(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:14.642338 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3265 win 94 13:13:20.111723 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3265:3359(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:20.111891 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3359 win 94 13:13:25.580343 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3359:3453(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:25.580960 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3453 win 94 13:13:31.049947 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3453:3547(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:31.050110 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3547 win 94 13:13:36.518418 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3547:3641(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:36.518981 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3641 win 94 13:13:41.988622 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3641:3735(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:41.988788 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3735 win 94 13:13:41.992540 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648 > mail.marketacumen.com.http: F 1139:1139(0) ack 2300 win 113 13:13:41.995858 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650 > mail.pumaone.net.http: S 1957547338:1957547338(0) win 5840 13:13:42.000774 IP mail.marketacumen.com.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33648: . ack 1140 win 16384 13:13:42.007413 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650: S 3440719728:3440719728(0) ack 1957547339 win 8760 13:13:42.007484 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 1 win 45 13:13:42.008664 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650 > mail.pumaone.net.http: P 1:708 (707) ack 1 win 45 13:13:42.034680 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650: . ack 708 win 15677 13:13:42.045901 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650: P 1:335 (334) ack 708 win 16384 13:13:42.045964 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 335 win 50 13:13:42.058325 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650 > mail.pumaone.net.http: F 708:708 (0) ack 335 win 50 13:13:42.065223 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650: . ack 709 win 16384 13:13:42.065400 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650: F 335:335 (0) ack 709 win 16384 13:13:42.065439 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33650 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 336 win 50 13:13:47.455888 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3735:3829(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:47.456103 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3829 win 94 13:13:52.925320 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3829:3923(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:52.925484 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 3923 win 94 13:13:58.396121 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 3923:4017(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:13:58.396284 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 4017 win 94 13:14:03.863135 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 4017:4111(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:14:03.863324 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 4111 win 94 13:14:09.331734 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: . 4111:4205(94) ack 376 win 65128 13:14:09.334992 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: . ack 4205 win 94 > > Like Andy, I have been putting off the call to NTL, because I know > > exactly how that will go. > > If they have any left find an NTL cablemodem business customer and check > the problem occurs for them too. NTL's service to the business customers > is a bit better than to others. > > Alan (an ex NTL internet customer and very glad to be _ex_) NTL are okay if you maintain low expectations in my experience. I still have a little fund of gratitude left for them from rescuing me from ISDN. Still, where is this 1.5Mbps upgrade they took credit for and have not delivered... - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8oFnjKeDCxMJCTIRAn+ZAKCDrgafxfVD4C8I0klDuiIDg9H/QQCgjKfr Szxm81SDQc2iy4oSqLYalrg= =Sgv9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From harald at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 12:27:17 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:27:17 +0200 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <200407121217.04084.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> <200407121217.04084.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <40F283A5.4010307@redhat.com> Andy Green wrote: > However... this other machine here with 2.6.7-1.437 says: > > [media at backup media]$ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling > 1 > > and it does not exhibit the problem. Oh well, I'm happy with the workaround > so far. > > Thanks again, > > - -Andy > Did you try 2.6.7-1.469, which resolved some other network performance problems? From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Jul 12 12:37:20 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:37:20 +0100 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <40F283A5.4010307@redhat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <200407121217.04084.fedora@warmcat.com> <40F283A5.4010307@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200407121337.21019.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 12 July 2004 13:27, Harald Hoyer wrote: > Did you try 2.6.7-1.469, which resolved some other network performance > problems? Looking through /var/log/messages with Grep, I see I was using 469 since July 6th. The behaviour has been present during that period. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8oYAjKeDCxMJCTIRAlUKAJ96tDrDfOosdqR8mWpEa3coS87AQACbBOCB h4urYACT5ENUH9zMBHaKqxI= =zof5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From twaugh at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 12:43:10 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:43:10 +0100 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <200407121317.43668.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712113644.GQ29674@redhat.com> <20040712115438.GB25844@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200407121317.43668.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040712124310.GR29674@redhat.com> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 01:17:43PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > Good guy (backup.cb.ath.cx) first, on the -437 kernel: [...] > 13:09:17.159653 IP backup.cb.ath.cx.57132 > mail.pumaone.net.http: S > 4213654806:4213654806(0) win 5840 0,nop,wscale 0> > 13:09:17.166999 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > backup.cb.ath.cx.57132: S > 732246534:732246534(0) ack 4213654807 win 8760 1460,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 1019215388 1555952404> ^^ No window scaling. > Now the possible bad boy, -478, again in Konqueror. I stopped the tcpdump > after a minute or so with nothing showing in the browser. [...] > 13:12:52.774832 IP fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647 > mail.pumaone.net.http: S > 1895838732:1895838732(0) win 5840 0,nop,wscale 7> > 13:12:52.784397 IP mail.pumaone.net.http > fastcat1.cb.ath.cx.33647: S > 3086153146:3086153146(0) ack 1895838733 win 8760 1460,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 1019250599 16526534> ^^ Window scaling. So it's just that backup.cb.ath.cx isn't putting the wscale option in its initial SYN packet. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Jul 12 13:16:14 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:16:14 +0100 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <20040712124310.GR29674@redhat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <200407121317.43668.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712124310.GR29674@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200407121416.14384.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 12 July 2004 13:43, Tim Waugh wrote: > So it's just that backup.cb.ath.cx isn't putting the wscale option in > its initial SYN packet. That seems very clear. But I didn't change anything AFAIK on that machine to make it avoid wscale, and the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling is still '1' on that machine. So I guess although NTL is choking on wscale, there is a difference in the kernel versions about issuing it. Maybe some kind of note somewhere giving the echo "0" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling workaround would be good since many NTL and maybe other customers will be suffering when the newer kernels go out to wider use. I noticed yesterday for example that the daily yum was choked, when I killed it and ran yum update by hand, it was not choked, it was just suffering the same problem with http traffic (while trying to get a new kernel-sourcecode!) coming at 1 or 2 bytes a second. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8o8ejKeDCxMJCTIRAtHvAJ4ngO3x+QmSBb4yCMxIjImDTtyutACfStoE xqqXndFoaP7v5eLevh32QEk= =ITB6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon Jul 12 14:51:16 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:51:16 -0400 Subject: preempt_voluntary problems In-Reply-To: <1089615275.2806.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> <1089615275.2806.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <1089643876.2890.31.camel@duergar> yOn Mon, 2004-07-12 at 08:54 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > what's the exact details ? the fedora kernel rpm? 476? 478? > Sorry typo. kernel: [null at duergar tmp]$ uname -a Linux duergar 2.6.7-1.476sb #1 Fri Jul 9 03:51:46 EDT 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -sb -- Stan Bubrouski From arjanv at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 15:06:41 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:06:41 +0200 Subject: preempt_voluntary problems In-Reply-To: <1089643876.2890.31.camel@duergar> References: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> <1089615275.2806.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089643876.2890.31.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1089644801.2806.18.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 16:51, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > yOn Mon, 2004-07-12 at 08:54 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > what's the exact details ? the fedora kernel rpm? 476? 478? > > > > Sorry typo. kernel: > [null at duergar tmp]$ uname -a > Linux duergar 2.6.7-1.476sb #1 Fri Jul 9 03:51:46 EDT 2004 i686 i686 > i386 GNU/Linux what did you change from the normal rpm ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon Jul 12 16:44:57 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:44:57 -0400 Subject: preempt_voluntary problems In-Reply-To: <1089644801.2806.18.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> <1089615275.2806.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089643876.2890.31.camel@duergar> <1089644801.2806.18.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <1089650697.2890.36.camel@duergar> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 17:06 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 16:51, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > yOn Mon, 2004-07-12 at 08:54 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > what's the exact details ? the fedora kernel rpm? 476? 478? > > > > > > > Sorry typo. kernel: > > [null at duergar tmp]$ uname -a > > Linux duergar 2.6.7-1.476sb #1 Fri Jul 9 03:51:46 EDT 2004 i686 i686 > > i386 GNU/Linux > > what did you change from the normal rpm ? > There are no additional patches or anything, its just a rebuild with the same config pretty much I been using 2.6.5 sometime. It's basically I took out everything not used on my system. I noticed when i have yum running or am doing a make Opera won't redraw for about 25-30 seconds too. -sb -- Stan Bubrouski From terraformers at gmx.net Mon Jul 12 17:32:49 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:32:49 +0200 Subject: kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.481, naming? Message-ID: hi one minor thing, kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.481 changelog says: * Tue Jul 13 2004 Arjan van de Ven - updated voluntary preempt - 2.6.8-rc1 so shouldn't the package called something like kernel-sourcecode-2.6.8.xxx ? btw. testing the new voluntary preempt now, and its working nice so far! cheers lars From arjanv at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 17:44:06 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:44:06 +0200 Subject: kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.481, naming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1089654245.2806.27.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:32, Lars wrote: > hi > > one minor thing, kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.481 changelog says: > > * Tue Jul 13 2004 Arjan van de Ven > - updated voluntary preempt > - 2.6.8-rc1 > > so shouldn't the package called something like kernel-sourcecode-2.6.8.xxx ? ah the eternal dillema...... there's no one true answer. I keep it 2.6.7 for basically 3 reasons: 1) the tarbal is still called linux-2.6.7.tar.bz 2) it's easier in the spec; rpm has some odd naming/versioning rules for -rc and the like, it's a lot easier to only go to a newer version on actually reaching that new version. 3) Some people really get upset if you call something 2.6.8 before 2.6.8 is officially released. And send flames. And complain on slashdot how much it sucks. And .. And ... I can see the other side of the fence as well (it's almost 2.6.8) but the "tarbal" argument so far won the argument ;). 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References: <1089654245.2806.27.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: ah, see whatever it is named, i will use/test it :) thanks! lars Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:32, Lars wrote: >> hi >> >> one minor thing, kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.481 changelog says: >> >> * Tue Jul 13 2004 Arjan van de Ven >> - updated voluntary preempt >> - 2.6.8-rc1 >> >> so shouldn't the package called something like >> kernel-sourcecode-2.6.8.xxx ? > > ah the eternal dillema...... there's no one true answer. > > I keep it 2.6.7 for basically 3 reasons: > 1) the tarbal is still called linux-2.6.7.tar.bz > 2) it's easier in the spec; rpm has some odd naming/versioning rules for > -rc and the like, it's a lot easier to only go to a newer version on > actually reaching that new version. > 3) Some people really get upset if you call something 2.6.8 before 2.6.8 > is officially released. And send flames. And complain on slashdot how > much it sucks. And .. And ... > > > I can see the other side of the fence as well (it's almost 2.6.8) but > the "tarbal" argument so far won the argument ;). > > (fwiw the original fc2 ga kernel was 2.6.6-rc or so, and the current > erratum is 2.6.7-rc) From mfedyk at matchmail.com Mon Jul 12 18:45:13 2004 From: mfedyk at matchmail.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:45:13 -0700 Subject: preempt_voluntary problems In-Reply-To: <1089650697.2890.36.camel@duergar> References: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> <1089615275.2806.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089643876.2890.31.camel@duergar> <1089644801.2806.18.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089650697.2890.36.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <40F2DC39.6050500@matchmail.com> Stan Bubrouski wrote: >On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 17:06 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > >>what did you change from the normal rpm ? >> >> >> > >There are no additional patches or anything, its just a rebuild with the >same config pretty much I been using 2.6.5 sometime. It's basically I >took out everything not used on my system. I noticed when i have yum >running or am doing a make Opera won't redraw for about 25-30 seconds >too. > >-sb > > Then post a diff on the .config files... From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon Jul 12 18:46:55 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:46:55 +0200 Subject: kernel-sourcecode-2.6.7-1.481, naming? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1089658015.10320.10.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Lars, > * Tue Jul 13 2004 Arjan van de Ven > - updated voluntary preempt > - 2.6.8-rc1 > > so shouldn't the package called something like kernel-sourcecode-2.6.8.xxx ? I would say no, as this is a pre 2.6.8 kernel, as in not yet 2.6.8. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Jul 12 18:57:02 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:57:02 -0500 Subject: FC3 Test 1 Message-ID: <40F2DEFE.3060601@earthlink.net> I have successfully installed FC3T1, but it hangs on boot on "Mounting USB File System." Are there any boot parameters I can include to get it past this? The md5sum checksums were correct, the CDs all passed the media test and the install went without any hitches. Gerry Tool From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Jul 12 19:39:39 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:39:39 -0500 Subject: FC3 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <40F2DEFE.3060601@earthlink.net> References: <40F2DEFE.3060601@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40F2E8FB.8090404@earthlink.net> Gerry Tool wrote: > I have successfully installed FC3T1, but it hangs on boot on "Mounting > USB File System." > > Are there any boot parameters I can include to get it past this? > > The md5sum checksums were correct, the CDs all passed the media test and > the install went without any hitches. > I notice that there is a schedule change to release FC3 T1 tomorrow instead of today. I downloaded the CDs this morning from an open mirror. It has the following MD5SUM file: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 70697f2afff9009836adbd9b7d35a44f FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso 1df4df73beb2a7c38f509a2732f0f50c FC3-test1-i386-disc2.iso e16d38b81421d95a4ed14631c2d37879 FC3-test1-i386-disc3.iso eddbeced47675ecc243799d26bbd99d8 FC3-test1-i386-disc4.iso e5c3c23c8c78e6f232f65d3bd8a72e9b FC3-test1-i386-DVD.iso e0420f9c5e9ee5c216f5fab7d12197ba FC3-test1-SRPMS-disc1.iso 811d4b4d34681393635e227967246b80 FC3-test1-SRPMS-disc2.iso 1aea9c8e4025fbb3bb4f2cc7be00167d FC3-test1-SRPMS-disc3.iso 2db26381dffe63996bf006e71f8a66d9 FC3-test1-SRPMS-disc4.iso -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA7saRtEJp0E8qb9IRAmXRAJ9h4Zj6+/VWTY1eIuInASGz6UXG2QCeMPX/ jWouVfTaOZoOb/l1BoipnzI= =OfwX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Are these correct, or will the version released tomorrow be different? Thanks. Gerry Tool From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Jul 12 19:41:37 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:41:37 +0100 Subject: Yum address for test 1 Message-ID: <1089661297.4244.16.camel@T7.linux> Hi, What address do I need to get hold of test1? I'm currently using the zeniiia mirror in the UK which seems to update once a day. Currently, the only thing on there is the rpmdb-fedora rpm for todays date. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gbpeck at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 12 19:42:49 2004 From: gbpeck at sbcglobal.net (Gary Peck) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:42:49 -0700 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <20040712113644.GQ29674@redhat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> <1089631800.2806.10.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <20040712113644.GQ29674@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040712194249.GI26647@realify.com> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 12:36:44PM +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 01:30:01PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > ISP problem; there is at least one brand of traffic shaper that is > > known to corrupt tcp streams like this (basically the in between box > > whacks the scaling factor to 0 without adjusting the rest of the tcp > > stream, or so the current theory goes) > > So the best thing to do is to wait until the problem has been pinned > down and the traffic shaper manufacturer named? > > Like Andy, I have been putting off the call to NTL, because I know > exactly how that will go. Would this be the same problem as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=126626? If so, it's definitely a change that happened in the default kernel config within the last month. Also, if it helps, I'm connecting to Earthlink through Time Warner Cable in New York (and behind a Belkin home router) when I see this problem. gary From rpjday at mindspring.com Mon Jul 12 19:47:25 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 15:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3 Test 1 In-Reply-To: <40F2E8FB.8090404@earthlink.net> References: <40F2DEFE.3060601@earthlink.net> <40F2E8FB.8090404@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Gerry Tool wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: >> I have successfully installed FC3T1, but it hangs on boot on "Mounting USB >> File System." >> >> Are there any boot parameters I can include to get it past this? >> >> The md5sum checksums were correct, the CDs all passed the media test and >> the install went without any hitches. >> > > I notice that there is a schedule change to release FC3 T1 tomorrow instead > of today. um ... yeah, i'd definitely like to know if there's going to be a different release tomorrow. i just started a download, and it would be nice to know it i should kill it and try again tomorrow. currently, i'm grabbing from redhat.secsup.org. rday From ernesto at ornl.gov Mon Jul 12 19:57:28 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 15:57:28 -0400 Subject: FC3 Test 1 Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A09EF@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Gerry Tool Sent: Mon 7/12/2004 3:39 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC3 Test 1 Gerry Tool wrote: > I have successfully installed FC3T1, but it hangs on boot on "Mounting > USB File System." > > Are there any boot parameters I can include to get it past this? > > The md5sum checksums were correct, the CDs all passed the media test and > the install went without any hitches. > I notice that there is a schedule change to release FC3 T1 tomorrow instead of today. I downloaded the CDs this morning from an open mirror. It has the following MD5SUM file: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 70697f2afff9009836adbd9b7d35a44f FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso 1df4df73beb2a7c38f509a2732f0f50c FC3-test1-i386-disc2.iso e16d38b81421d95a4ed14631c2d37879 FC3-test1-i386-disc3.iso eddbeced47675ecc243799d26bbd99d8 FC3-test1-i386-disc4.iso e5c3c23c8c78e6f232f65d3bd8a72e9b FC3-test1-i386-DVD.iso e0420f9c5e9ee5c216f5fab7d12197ba FC3-test1-SRPMS-disc1.iso 811d4b4d34681393635e227967246b80 FC3-test1-SRPMS-disc2.iso 1aea9c8e4025fbb3bb4f2cc7be00167d FC3-test1-SRPMS-disc3.iso 2db26381dffe63996bf006e71f8a66d9 FC3-test1-SRPMS-disc4.iso -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA7saRtEJp0E8qb9IRAmXRAJ9h4Zj6+/VWTY1eIuInASGz6UXG2QCeMPX/ jWouVfTaOZoOb/l1BoipnzI= =OfwX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Are these correct, or will the version released tomorrow be different? Also, has Rawhide been frozen? I was in synch with rawhide yesterday. I am hoping to transform into FC3 test1 via updates from rawhide? Thanks. Gerry Tool -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From dwalsh at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 20:09:44 2004 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:09:44 -0400 Subject: SELinux policy update for FC2. Fixes problem with devnull sid Message-ID: <40F2F008.5090602@redhat.com> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: policy-update URL: From rhl+dale at riyescott.com Mon Jul 12 20:20:26 2004 From: rhl+dale at riyescott.com (Dale) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:20:26 -0700 Subject: NOPs in TCP traffic In-Reply-To: <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> References: <200407121044.00199.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040712110503.GP29674@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040712202026.GA2637@cupro.opengvs.com> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 12:05:03PM +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > The 'win 45' stuff is meant to be scaled. At the beginning of the TCP > connection you'll see 'wscale 7' from your end, i.e. 45<<7, i.e. 5760. > > Try 'echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling'. For me, this > makes the problem go away entirely. > > So is this a Linux kernel problem, or a problem at the ISP's end? Covered in detail at http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/ A small excerpt: In the 2.6.7 kernel, the default scale factor is zero; in Linus's BitKeeper tree and the 2.6.7-mm kernels, instead, it has been increased to seven. This change has brought the broken router behavior to light; suddenly people running current kernels are finding that they cannot talk to a number of systems out there. From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon Jul 12 23:56:28 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:56:28 -0400 Subject: preempt_voluntary problems In-Reply-To: <40F2DC39.6050500@matchmail.com> References: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> <1089615275.2806.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089643876.2890.31.camel@duergar> <1089644801.2806.18.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089650697.2890.36.camel@duergar> <40F2DC39.6050500@matchmail.com> Message-ID: <1089676588.26642.3.camel@duergar> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 11:45 -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > >On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 17:06 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > >>what did you change from the normal rpm ? > >> > >> > >> > > > >There are no additional patches or anything, its just a rebuild with the > >same config pretty much I been using 2.6.5 sometime. It's basically I > >took out everything not used on my system. I noticed when i have yum > >running or am doing a make Opera won't redraw for about 25-30 seconds > >too. > > > >-sb > > > > > Then post a diff on the .config files... > Sure. See below. > --- /usr/src/.config-2.6.6-1.427sb 2004-06-13 13:28:19.000000000 -0400 +++ /usr/src/linux-2.6.7-1.476/.config 2004-07-09 03:37:28.000000000 - 0400 @@ -21,6 +21,7 @@ CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y +CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_AUDIT=y CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y @@ -30,6 +31,7 @@ # CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y # CONFIG_KALLSYMS_ALL is not set +# CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set CONFIG_FUTEX=y CONFIG_EPOLL=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y @@ -46,6 +48,7 @@ # CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y +# CONFIG_MODULE_SIG is not set CONFIG_KMOD=y # @@ -99,7 +102,9 @@ CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y # CONFIG_SMP is not set -CONFIG_PREEMPT=y +# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set +# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NORESCHED is not set +CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y # CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set CONFIG_X86_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_MCE=y @@ -120,7 +125,6 @@ # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set CONFIG_MTRR=y # CONFIG_EFI is not set -CONFIG_HAVE_DEC_LOCK=y # CONFIG_REGPARM is not set # @@ -204,6 +208,7 @@ # # Generic Driver Options # +CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y # CONFIG_FW_LOADER is not set # CONFIG_DEBUG_DRIVER is not set @@ -240,7 +245,7 @@ CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD=m -# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CARMEL is not set +# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SX8 is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=16384 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y @@ -255,6 +260,7 @@ # # Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives # +# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y @@ -451,6 +457,8 @@ # CONFIG_IP_NF_COMPAT_IPFWADM is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_NOTRACK is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_RAW=m +CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_ADDRTYPE=m +CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_REALM=m # # IPv6: Netfilter Configuration @@ -501,6 +509,7 @@ # QoS and/or fair queueing # # CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set +CONFIG_NET_CLS_ROUTE=y # # Network testing @@ -717,6 +726,9 @@ # CONFIG_DRM is not set # CONFIG_MWAVE is not set # CONFIG_RAW_DRIVER is not set +CONFIG_HPET=y +# CONFIG_HPET_RTC_IRQ is not set +# CONFIG_HPET_NOMMAP is not set # CONFIG_HANGCHECK_TIMER is not set # @@ -809,6 +821,7 @@ # Graphics support # CONFIG_FB=y +# CONFIG_FB_CIRRUS is not set # CONFIG_FB_PM2 is not set # CONFIG_FB_CYBER2000 is not set # CONFIG_FB_ASILIANT is not set @@ -818,6 +831,7 @@ CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y # CONFIG_FB_HGA is not set CONFIG_FB_RIVA=m +CONFIG_FB_RIVA_I2C=y # CONFIG_FB_I810 is not set # CONFIG_FB_MATROX is not set # CONFIG_FB_RADEON_OLD is not set @@ -1081,6 +1095,8 @@ CONFIG_FAT_FS=m CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m +CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 +CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-1" CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m # CONFIG_NTFS_DEBUG is not set # CONFIG_NTFS_RW is not set @@ -1126,6 +1142,7 @@ # CONFIG_SMB_NLS_DEFAULT is not set CONFIG_CIFS=m # CONFIG_CIFS_STATS is not set +CONFIG_CIFS_POSIX=y # CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set # CONFIG_CODA_FS is not set # CONFIG_AFS_FS is not set @@ -1145,7 +1162,6 @@ # CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_UNIXWARE_DISKLABEL is not set # CONFIG_LDM_PARTITION is not set -# CONFIG_NEC98_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_SGI_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_ULTRIX_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_SUN_PARTITION is not set @@ -1179,6 +1195,7 @@ # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_8 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_1250 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_1251 is not set +CONFIG_NLS_ASCII=y CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=y # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3 is not set @@ -1245,19 +1262,22 @@ CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_CAST5=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_CAST6=m +CONFIG_CRYPTO_TEA=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_DEFLATE=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_MICHAEL_MIC=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_CRC32C=m # CONFIG_CRYPTO_TEST is not set +# CONFIG_CRYPTO_SIGNATURE is not set +# CONFIG_CRYPTO_MPILIB is not set # # Library routines # +CONFIG_CRC16=m CONFIG_CRC32=y CONFIG_LIBCRC32C=m CONFIG_ZLIB_INFLATE=y CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=m CONFIG_X86_BIOS_REBOOT=y -CONFIG_X86_STD_RESOURCES=y CONFIG_PC=y -- Stan Bubrouski From tcallawa at redhat.com Tue Jul 13 00:36:28 2004 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom 'spot' Callaway) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:36:28 -0500 Subject: preempt_voluntary problems In-Reply-To: <1089676588.26642.3.camel@duergar> References: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> <1089615275.2806.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089643876.2890.31.camel@duergar> <1089644801.2806.18.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089650697.2890.36.camel@duergar> <40F2DC39.6050500@matchmail.com> <1089676588.26642.3.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1089678988.20813.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:56 -0400, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > --- /usr/src/.config-2.6.6-1.427sb 2004-06-13 13:28:19.000000000 -0400 > +++ /usr/src/linux-2.6.7-1.476/.config 2004-07-09 03:37:28.000000000 - > -CONFIG_PREEMPT=y > +# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set > +# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NORESCHED is not set > +CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y It looks like Arjan's config is using CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY, and you're using CONFIG_PREEMPT... ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora Linux Project Leader "If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill From stan at ccs.neu.edu Tue Jul 13 03:04:42 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:04:42 -0400 Subject: preempt_voluntary problems In-Reply-To: <1089678988.20813.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1089575008.2890.21.camel@duergar> <1089615275.2806.0.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089643876.2890.31.camel@duergar> <1089644801.2806.18.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089650697.2890.36.camel@duergar> <40F2DC39.6050500@matchmail.com> <1089676588.26642.3.camel@duergar> <1089678988.20813.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1089687882.26642.10.camel@duergar> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:36 -0500, Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote: > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:56 -0400, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > > > --- /usr/src/.config-2.6.6-1.427sb 2004-06-13 13:28:19.000000000 -0400 > > +++ /usr/src/linux-2.6.7-1.476/.config 2004-07-09 03:37:28.000000000 - > > > -CONFIG_PREEMPT=y > > +# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set > > +# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NORESCHED is not set > > +CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y > > It looks like Arjan's config is using CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY, and > you're using CONFIG_PREEMPT... That's simply a diff of what's changed between my own configs. I used PREEMPT in 2.6.6 and PREEMENT_VOLUNTARY in 2.6.7. No other changes in my own config account for the behavioral changes I have been encountering with PREEMENT_VOLUNTARY. BTW if I diffed Arjan's config to mine the diff would probably be larger than either config files themselves. I've attached my config file. Let me know if you see anything stupid in there... I do think though these problems are from preempt_voluntary because I have never before encountered this behavior in any 2.6.x or 2.5.x kernel to date... -sb -- Stan Bubrouski -------------- next part -------------- # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # CONFIG_X86=y CONFIG_MMU=y CONFIG_UID16=y CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y CONFIG_CLEAN_COMPILE=y CONFIG_STANDALONE=y CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y # # General setup # CONFIG_SWAP=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_AUDIT=y CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=17 CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y # CONFIG_IKCONFIG is not set # CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y # CONFIG_KALLSYMS_ALL is not set # CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set CONFIG_FUTEX=y CONFIG_EPOLL=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y # CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y # CONFIG_MODULE_SIG is not set CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Processor type and features # CONFIG_X86_PC=y # CONFIG_X86_ELAN is not set # CONFIG_X86_VOYAGER is not set # CONFIG_X86_NUMAQ is not set # CONFIG_X86_SUMMIT is not set # CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set # CONFIG_X86_VISWS is not set # CONFIG_X86_GENERICARCH is not set # CONFIG_X86_ES7000 is not set # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMII is not set CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII=y # CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set # CONFIG_MK7 is not set # CONFIG_MK8 is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set # CONFIG_X86_GENERIC is not set CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y CONFIG_X86_XADD=y CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5 CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y # CONFIG_X86_4G is not set # CONFIG_X86_SWITCH_PAGETABLES is not set # CONFIG_X86_4G_VM_LAYOUT is not set # CONFIG_X86_UACCESS_INDIRECT is not set # CONFIG_X86_HIGH_ENTRY is not set CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y # CONFIG_SMP is not set # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set # CONFIG_PREEMPT_NORESCHED is not set CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y # CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set CONFIG_X86_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_MCE=y # CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL is not set # CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_I8K is not set CONFIG_MICROCODE=y CONFIG_X86_MSR=y CONFIG_X86_CPUID=m # # Firmware Drivers # # CONFIG_EDD is not set CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set CONFIG_MTRR=y # CONFIG_EFI is not set # CONFIG_REGPARM is not set # # Power management options (ACPI, APM) # CONFIG_PM=y # CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_PM_DISK is not set # # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y # CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP is not set # CONFIG_ACPI_AC is not set # CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY is not set CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y # CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER is not set # # APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS Support # # CONFIG_APM is not set # # CPU Frequency scaling # # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ is not set # # Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA) # CONFIG_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set # CONFIG_PCI_GOMMCONFIG is not set # CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y CONFIG_PCI_MMCONFIG=y # CONFIG_PCI_LEGACY_PROC is not set CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y # CONFIG_ISA is not set # CONFIG_MCA is not set # CONFIG_SCx200 is not set # # PCMCIA/CardBus support # # CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set # # PCI Hotplug Support # # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI is not set # # Executable file formats # CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m # # Device Drivers # # # Generic Driver Options # CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y # CONFIG_FW_LOADER is not set # CONFIG_DEBUG_DRIVER is not set # # Memory Technology Devices (MTD) # # CONFIG_MTD is not set # # Parallel port support # CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=m # CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y # # Plug and Play support # # # Block devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMEM is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD=m # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SX8 is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=16384 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y # CONFIG_LBD is not set # # ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support # CONFIG_IDE=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y # # Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives # # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set # CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set # CONFIG_IDE_TASKFILE_IO is not set # # IDE chipset support/bugfixes # CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640 is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GENERIC=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OPTI621 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000 is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_FORCED is not set CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y # CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ADMA=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AEC62XX is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ALI15X3 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATIIXP is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD64X is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRIFLEX is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CY82C693 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5520 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5530 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT34X is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT366 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SC1200 is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NS87415 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_OLD is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_NEW=y CONFIG_PDC202XX_FORCE=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SVWKS is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIIMAGE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SLC90E66 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRM290 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX is not set # CONFIG_IDE_ARM is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y # CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB is not set CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set # # SCSI device support # # CONFIG_SCSI is not set # # Multi-device support (RAID and LVM) # # CONFIG_MD is not set # # Fusion MPT device support # # # IEEE 1394 (FireWire) support # CONFIG_IEEE1394=m # # Subsystem Options # # CONFIG_IEEE1394_VERBOSEDEBUG is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_OUI_DB is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_EXTRA_CONFIG_ROMS is not set # # Device Drivers # CONFIG_IEEE1394_PCILYNX=m CONFIG_IEEE1394_OHCI1394=m # # Protocol Drivers # # CONFIG_IEEE1394_VIDEO1394 is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_ETH1394 is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_DV1394 is not set CONFIG_IEEE1394_RAWIO=m # CONFIG_IEEE1394_CMP is not set # # I2O device support # # CONFIG_I2O is not set # # Networking support # CONFIG_NET=y # # Networking options # CONFIG_PACKET=y CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP=y CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=y CONFIG_UNIX=y CONFIG_NET_KEY=m CONFIG_INET=y CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST=y # CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set CONFIG_NET_IPGRE=m # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE_BROADCAST is not set # CONFIG_IP_MROUTE is not set # CONFIG_ARPD is not set CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y CONFIG_INET_AH=m CONFIG_INET_ESP=m CONFIG_INET_IPCOMP=m # # IP: Virtual Server Configuration # # CONFIG_IP_VS is not set CONFIG_IPV6=m CONFIG_IPV6_PRIVACY=y CONFIG_INET6_AH=m CONFIG_INET6_ESP=m CONFIG_INET6_IPCOMP=m # CONFIG_IPV6_TUNNEL is not set CONFIG_NETFILTER=y # CONFIG_NETFILTER_DEBUG is not set # # IP: Netfilter Configuration # CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK=m CONFIG_IP_NF_FTP=m CONFIG_IP_NF_IRC=m # CONFIG_IP_NF_TFTP is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_AMANDA is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_QUEUE=m CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_LIMIT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_IPRANGE=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MAC=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_PKTTYPE=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MARK=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MULTIPORT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TOS=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_RECENT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_ECN=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_DSCP=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_AH_ESP=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_LENGTH=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TTL=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TCPMSS=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_HELPER=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_STATE=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_CONNTRACK=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER=m CONFIG_IP_NF_FILTER=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REJECT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_NEEDED=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MASQUERADE=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REDIRECT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_NETMAP=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_SAME=m # CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_LOCAL is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_SNMP_BASIC is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_IRC=m CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_FTP=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MANGLE=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TOS=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_ECN=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_DSCP=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MARK=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_CLASSIFY=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_LOG=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_ULOG=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TCPMSS=m CONFIG_IP_NF_ARPTABLES=m CONFIG_IP_NF_ARPFILTER=m CONFIG_IP_NF_ARP_MANGLE=m # CONFIG_IP_NF_COMPAT_IPCHAINS is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_COMPAT_IPFWADM is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_NOTRACK is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_RAW=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_ADDRTYPE=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_REALM=m # # IPv6: Netfilter Configuration # CONFIG_IP6_NF_QUEUE=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_IPTABLES=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_LIMIT=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_MAC=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_RT=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_OPTS=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_FRAG=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_HL=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_MULTIPORT=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_OWNER=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_MARK=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_IPV6HEADER=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_AHESP=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_LENGTH=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_EUI64=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_FILTER=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_TARGET_LOG=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_MANGLE=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_TARGET_MARK=m CONFIG_IP6_NF_RAW=m CONFIG_XFRM=y CONFIG_XFRM_USER=m # # SCTP Configuration (EXPERIMENTAL) # # CONFIG_IP_SCTP is not set # CONFIG_ATM is not set # CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set # CONFIG_VLAN_8021Q is not set # CONFIG_DECNET is not set # CONFIG_LLC2 is not set # CONFIG_IPX is not set # CONFIG_ATALK is not set # CONFIG_X25 is not set # CONFIG_LAPB is not set # CONFIG_NET_DIVERT is not set # CONFIG_ECONET is not set # CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_FASTROUTE is not set # CONFIG_NET_HW_FLOWCONTROL is not set # # QoS and/or fair queueing # # CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set CONFIG_NET_CLS_ROUTE=y # # Network testing # # CONFIG_NET_PKTGEN is not set # CONFIG_NETPOLL is not set # CONFIG_NET_POLL_CONTROLLER is not set # CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set # CONFIG_IRDA is not set # CONFIG_BT is not set # CONFIG_TUX is not set CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y CONFIG_DUMMY=m # CONFIG_BONDING is not set # CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set # CONFIG_TUN is not set # CONFIG_ETHERTAP is not set # # ARCnet devices # # CONFIG_ARCNET is not set # # Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) # CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y CONFIG_MII=m # CONFIG_HAPPYMEAL is not set # CONFIG_SUNGEM is not set CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM=y CONFIG_VORTEX=m # CONFIG_TYPHOON is not set # # Tulip family network device support # # CONFIG_NET_TULIP is not set # CONFIG_HP100 is not set # CONFIG_NE2000 is not set # CONFIG_NET_PCI is not set # # Ethernet (1000 Mbit) # # CONFIG_ACENIC is not set # CONFIG_DL2K is not set # CONFIG_E1000 is not set # CONFIG_NS83820 is not set # CONFIG_HAMACHI is not set # CONFIG_YELLOWFIN is not set # CONFIG_R8169 is not set # CONFIG_SK98LIN is not set # CONFIG_TIGON3 is not set # # Ethernet (10000 Mbit) # # CONFIG_IXGB is not set # CONFIG_S2IO is not set # # Token Ring devices # # CONFIG_TR is not set # # Wireless LAN (non-hamradio) # # CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set # # Wan interfaces # # CONFIG_WAN is not set # CONFIG_FDDI is not set # CONFIG_HIPPI is not set # CONFIG_PLIP is not set # CONFIG_PPP is not set # CONFIG_SLIP is not set # CONFIG_SHAPER is not set # CONFIG_NETCONSOLE is not set # # ISDN subsystem # # CONFIG_ISDN is not set # # Telephony Support # # CONFIG_PHONE is not set # # Input device support # CONFIG_INPUT=y # # Userland interfaces # CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768 CONFIG_INPUT_JOYDEV=m # CONFIG_INPUT_TSDEV is not set CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=m # CONFIG_INPUT_EVBUG is not set # # Input I/O drivers # CONFIG_GAMEPORT=m CONFIG_SOUND_GAMEPORT=m # CONFIG_GAMEPORT_NS558 is not set # CONFIG_GAMEPORT_L4 is not set CONFIG_GAMEPORT_EMU10K1=m # CONFIG_GAMEPORT_VORTEX is not set # CONFIG_GAMEPORT_FM801 is not set # CONFIG_GAMEPORT_CS461x is not set CONFIG_SERIO=y CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=y CONFIG_SERIO_SERPORT=m # CONFIG_SERIO_CT82C710 is not set # CONFIG_SERIO_PARKBD is not set # CONFIG_SERIO_PCIPS2 is not set # # Input Device Drivers # CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD=y CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_SUNKBD is not set # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_LKKBD is not set # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_XTKBD is not set # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_NEWTON is not set CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y # CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL is not set # CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA is not set # CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK is not set # CONFIG_INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN is not set # CONFIG_INPUT_MISC is not set # # Character devices # CONFIG_VT=y CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE=y # CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set # # Serial drivers # CONFIG_SERIAL_8250=y # CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_CONSOLE is not set # CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_ACPI is not set CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS=4 CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_EXTENDED=y # CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_MANY_PORTS is not set CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_SHARE_IRQ=y # CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_DETECT_IRQ is not set # CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_MULTIPORT is not set # CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RSA is not set # # Non-8250 serial port support # CONFIG_SERIAL_CORE=y CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y # CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS is not set # CONFIG_CRASH is not set CONFIG_PRINTER=m # CONFIG_LP_CONSOLE is not set # CONFIG_PPDEV is not set # CONFIG_TIPAR is not set # CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set # # IPMI # # CONFIG_IPMI_HANDLER is not set # # Watchdog Cards # # CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set CONFIG_HW_RANDOM=m # CONFIG_NVRAM is not set CONFIG_RTC=y # CONFIG_DTLK is not set # CONFIG_R3964 is not set # CONFIG_APPLICOM is not set # CONFIG_SONYPI is not set # # Ftape, the floppy tape device driver # # CONFIG_FTAPE is not set CONFIG_AGP=y # CONFIG_AGP_ALI is not set # CONFIG_AGP_ATI is not set # CONFIG_AGP_AMD is not set # CONFIG_AGP_AMD64 is not set CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y # CONFIG_AGP_INTEL_MCH is not set # CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SIS is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS is not set # CONFIG_AGP_VIA is not set # CONFIG_AGP_EFFICEON is not set # CONFIG_DRM is not set # CONFIG_MWAVE is not set # CONFIG_RAW_DRIVER is not set CONFIG_HPET=y # CONFIG_HPET_RTC_IRQ is not set # CONFIG_HPET_NOMMAP is not set # CONFIG_HANGCHECK_TIMER is not set # # I2C support # CONFIG_I2C=m # CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV is not set # # I2C Algorithms # CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=m # CONFIG_I2C_ALGOPCF is not set # # I2C Hardware Bus support # # CONFIG_I2C_ALI1535 is not set # CONFIG_I2C_ALI1563 is not set # CONFIG_I2C_ALI15X3 is not set # CONFIG_I2C_AMD756 is not set # CONFIG_I2C_AMD8111 is not set CONFIG_I2C_I801=m # CONFIG_I2C_I810 is not set # CONFIG_I2C_ISA is not set # CONFIG_I2C_NFORCE2 is not set # CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT is not set # CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT_LIGHT is not set CONFIG_I2C_PIIX4=m # CONFIG_I2C_PROSAVAGE is not set # CONFIG_I2C_SAVAGE4 is not set # CONFIG_SCx200_ACB is not set # CONFIG_I2C_SIS5595 is not set # CONFIG_I2C_SIS630 is not set # CONFIG_I2C_SIS96X is not set # CONFIG_I2C_VIA is not set # CONFIG_I2C_VIAPRO is not set # CONFIG_I2C_VOODOO3 is not set # # Hardware Sensors Chip support # # CONFIG_I2C_SENSOR is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_ADM1021 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_ASB100 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_DS1621 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_FSCHER is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_GL518SM is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_IT87 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_LM75 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_LM78 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_LM80 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_LM83 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_LM85 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_LM90 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_MAX1619 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_VIA686A is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_W83781D is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_W83L785TS is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_W83627HF is not set # # Other I2C Chip support # # CONFIG_SENSORS_EEPROM is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_PCF8574 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_PCF8591 is not set # CONFIG_SENSORS_RTC8564 is not set # CONFIG_I2C_DEBUG_CORE is not set # CONFIG_I2C_DEBUG_ALGO is not set # CONFIG_I2C_DEBUG_BUS is not set # CONFIG_I2C_DEBUG_CHIP is not set # # Misc devices # # CONFIG_IBM_ASM is not set # # Multimedia devices # # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set # # Digital Video Broadcasting Devices # # CONFIG_DVB is not set # # Graphics support # CONFIG_FB=y # CONFIG_FB_CIRRUS is not set # CONFIG_FB_PM2 is not set # CONFIG_FB_CYBER2000 is not set # CONFIG_FB_ASILIANT is not set # CONFIG_FB_IMSTT is not set # CONFIG_FB_VGA16 is not set # CONFIG_FB_VESA is not set CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y # CONFIG_FB_HGA is not set CONFIG_FB_RIVA=m CONFIG_FB_RIVA_I2C=y # CONFIG_FB_I810 is not set # CONFIG_FB_MATROX is not set # CONFIG_FB_RADEON_OLD is not set # CONFIG_FB_RADEON is not set # CONFIG_FB_ATY128 is not set # CONFIG_FB_ATY is not set # CONFIG_FB_SIS is not set # CONFIG_FB_NEOMAGIC is not set # CONFIG_FB_KYRO is not set # CONFIG_FB_3DFX is not set # CONFIG_FB_VOODOO1 is not set # CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT is not set # CONFIG_FB_VIRTUAL is not set # # Console display driver support # CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y # CONFIG_MDA_CONSOLE is not set CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=m CONFIG_PCI_CONSOLE=y # CONFIG_FONTS is not set CONFIG_FONT_8x8=y CONFIG_FONT_8x16=y # # Logo configuration # CONFIG_LOGO=y # CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_MONO is not set # CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_VGA16 is not set CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_CLUT224=y # # Sound # CONFIG_SOUND=m # # Advanced Linux Sound Architecture # CONFIG_SND=m CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m CONFIG_SND_PCM=m CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY=m CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER=m # CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set # CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set # # Generic devices # CONFIG_SND_MPU401_UART=m # CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI=m CONFIG_SND_MTPAV=m # CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set CONFIG_SND_MPU401=m # # PCI devices # CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=m # CONFIG_SND_ALI5451 is not set # CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP is not set # CONFIG_SND_AU8810 is not set # CONFIG_SND_AU8820 is not set # CONFIG_SND_AU8830 is not set # CONFIG_SND_AZT3328 is not set # CONFIG_SND_BT87X is not set # CONFIG_SND_CS46XX is not set # CONFIG_SND_CS4281 is not set CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1=m # CONFIG_SND_KORG1212 is not set # CONFIG_SND_MIXART is not set # CONFIG_SND_NM256 is not set # CONFIG_SND_RME32 is not set # CONFIG_SND_RME96 is not set # CONFIG_SND_RME9652 is not set # CONFIG_SND_HDSP is not set # CONFIG_SND_TRIDENT is not set # CONFIG_SND_YMFPCI is not set # CONFIG_SND_ALS4000 is not set # CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI is not set # CONFIG_SND_ENS1370 is not set # CONFIG_SND_ENS1371 is not set # CONFIG_SND_ES1938 is not set # CONFIG_SND_ES1968 is not set # CONFIG_SND_MAESTRO3 is not set # CONFIG_SND_FM801 is not set # CONFIG_SND_ICE1712 is not set # CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m # CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set # CONFIG_SND_SONICVIBES is not set # CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX is not set # CONFIG_SND_VX222 is not set # # ALSA USB devices # # CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO is not set # # Open Sound System # # CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME is not set # # USB support # CONFIG_USB=m # CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set # # Miscellaneous USB options # CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set # CONFIG_USB_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set # # USB Host Controller Drivers # # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD is not set # CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD is not set CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=m # # USB Device Class drivers # # CONFIG_USB_AUDIO is not set # CONFIG_USB_BLUETOOTH_TTY is not set # CONFIG_USB_MIDI is not set # CONFIG_USB_ACM is not set CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=m # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE is not set # # USB Human Interface Devices (HID) # CONFIG_USB_HID=m CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y # CONFIG_HID_FF is not set CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y # # USB HID Boot Protocol drivers # # CONFIG_USB_KBD is not set # CONFIG_USB_MOUSE is not set # CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK is not set # CONFIG_USB_WACOM is not set # CONFIG_USB_KBTAB is not set # CONFIG_USB_POWERMATE is not set # CONFIG_USB_MTOUCH is not set # CONFIG_USB_EGALAX is not set # CONFIG_USB_XPAD is not set # CONFIG_USB_ATI_REMOTE is not set # # USB Imaging devices # # CONFIG_USB_MDC800 is not set # # USB Multimedia devices # # CONFIG_USB_DABUSB is not set # # Video4Linux support is needed for USB Multimedia device support # # # USB Network adaptors # # CONFIG_USB_CATC is not set # CONFIG_USB_KAWETH is not set # CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS is not set # CONFIG_USB_RTL8150 is not set # CONFIG_USB_USBNET is not set # # USB port drivers # # CONFIG_USB_USS720 is not set # # USB Serial Converter support # # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL is not set # # USB Miscellaneous drivers # # CONFIG_USB_EMI62 is not set # CONFIG_USB_EMI26 is not set # CONFIG_USB_TIGL is not set # CONFIG_USB_AUERSWALD is not set # CONFIG_USB_RIO500 is not set # CONFIG_USB_LEGOTOWER is not set # CONFIG_USB_LCD is not set # CONFIG_USB_LED is not set # CONFIG_USB_CYTHERM is not set # CONFIG_USB_PHIDGETSERVO is not set # CONFIG_USB_TEST is not set # # USB Gadget Support # # CONFIG_USB_GADGET is not set # # File systems # CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR=y CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL=y CONFIG_EXT2_FS_SECURITY=y CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y CONFIG_EXT3_FS_XATTR=y CONFIG_EXT3_FS_POSIX_ACL=y CONFIG_EXT3_FS_SECURITY=y CONFIG_JBD=y # CONFIG_JBD_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_FS_MBCACHE=y # CONFIG_REISERFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_JFS_FS is not set CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL=y # CONFIG_XFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set CONFIG_ROMFS_FS=m CONFIG_QUOTA=y # CONFIG_QFMT_V1 is not set CONFIG_QFMT_V2=m CONFIG_QUOTACTL=y # CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS=m # # CD-ROM/DVD Filesystems # CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y CONFIG_JOLIET=y CONFIG_ZISOFS=y CONFIG_ZISOFS_FS=y CONFIG_UDF_FS=m # # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems # CONFIG_FAT_FS=m CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-1" CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m # CONFIG_NTFS_DEBUG is not set # CONFIG_NTFS_RW is not set # # Pseudo filesystems # CONFIG_PROC_FS=y CONFIG_PROC_KCORE=y CONFIG_SYSFS=y # CONFIG_DEVFS_FS is not set CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS_XATTR=y CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS_SECURITY=y CONFIG_TMPFS=y # CONFIG_HUGETLBFS is not set # CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE is not set CONFIG_RAMFS=y # # Miscellaneous filesystems # # CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_HFSPLUS_FS is not set # CONFIG_BEFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_BFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_EFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_CRAMFS is not set # CONFIG_VXFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set # CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set # CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set # # Network File Systems # # CONFIG_NFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_NFSD is not set # CONFIG_EXPORTFS is not set CONFIG_SMB_FS=m # CONFIG_SMB_NLS_DEFAULT is not set CONFIG_CIFS=m # CONFIG_CIFS_STATS is not set CONFIG_CIFS_POSIX=y # CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set # CONFIG_CODA_FS is not set # CONFIG_AFS_FS is not set # # Partition Types # CONFIG_PARTITION_ADVANCED=y # CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_OSF_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_ATARI_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set CONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION=y # CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL is not set # CONFIG_MINIX_SUBPARTITION is not set # CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_UNIXWARE_DISKLABEL is not set # CONFIG_LDM_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_SGI_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_ULTRIX_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_SUN_PARTITION is not set # CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION is not set # # Native Language Support # CONFIG_NLS=y CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT="iso8859-1" CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=y # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_737 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_775 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_855 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_857 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_860 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_861 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_862 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_863 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_864 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_865 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_866 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_869 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_936 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_950 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_932 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_949 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_874 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_8 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_1250 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_1251 is not set CONFIG_NLS_ASCII=y CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=y # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_4 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_5 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_6 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_7 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_9 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_13 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_14 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_15 is not set # CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_R is not set # CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_U is not set CONFIG_NLS_UTF8=m # # Profiling support # # CONFIG_PROFILING is not set # # Kernel hacking # CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK=y # CONFIG_DEBUG_STACKOVERFLOW is not set # CONFIG_DEBUG_STACK_USAGE is not set # CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB is not set CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y # CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK is not set # CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC is not set # CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO is not set # CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK_SLEEP is not set # CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER is not set # # Security options # CONFIG_SECURITY=y CONFIG_SECURITY_NETWORK=y CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=y # CONFIG_SECURITY_ROOTPLUG is not set CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX=y CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM=y CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_DISABLE=y CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_DEVELOP=y # CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_MLS is not set # # Cryptographic options # CONFIG_CRYPTO=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_HMAC=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_NULL=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_MD4=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_MD5=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA1=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA256=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA512=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_DES=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_BLOWFISH=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_SERPENT=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_CAST5=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_CAST6=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_TEA=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_DEFLATE=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_MICHAEL_MIC=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_CRC32C=m # CONFIG_CRYPTO_TEST is not set # CONFIG_CRYPTO_SIGNATURE is not set # CONFIG_CRYPTO_MPILIB is not set # # Library routines # CONFIG_CRC16=m CONFIG_CRC32=y CONFIG_LIBCRC32C=m CONFIG_ZLIB_INFLATE=y CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=m CONFIG_X86_BIOS_REBOOT=y CONFIG_PC=y From paul-erik.torronen at cardinal.fi Tue Jul 13 06:45:22 2004 From: paul-erik.torronen at cardinal.fi (Paul-Erik =?ISO-8859-1?Q?T=F6rr=F6nen?=) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:45:22 +0300 Subject: AMD Athelon 64 FX In-Reply-To: <1089510242.3134.26.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> References: <20040702152029.80316.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> <1089510242.3134.26.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> Message-ID: <1089701122.19889.166.camel@lanfear.intra.cardinal.fi> On Sun, 2004-07-11 at 04:44, Robert L Cochran wrote: > So Fedora Core 2 should run fine on the Athlon 64 3800+ which is Socket > 939? Using the Asus A8V motherboard or perhaps the more expensive > Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP-939 board which has the NForce3 Ultra chipset. Out of interest, you might want to read the Anandtech article: http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2114 Personally I wouldn't claim that 'both Linux distributions also lay waste to the 64-bit and 32-bit editions of Windows XP.' based on the results shown on those pages. Poltsi -- Paul-Erik T?rr?nen, Cardinal Information Systems Ltd. Pursimiehenkatu 29-31 C 00150 Helsinki, Finland Mobile: +358 (0)40 703 1231 Phone: +358 (0)424 792 204 Fax: +358 (0)424 792 207 http://www.cardinal.fi/ From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Jul 13 08:35:11 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:35:11 +0100 Subject: FC3t1 mirrors Message-ID: <1089707711.7129.8.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, I've just tried to access the mirrors page on the fedora site and it seems to have vanished (gives a 404). Anyone know where I can download it from or if I can use yum to grab it for me and can I take it that it will only be available after the US wakes up (about 4pm British Summer Time)? TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What is the closest thing to evolution that I can try besides kmail? Thanks -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From ernesto at ornl.gov Tue Jul 13 11:47:25 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:47:25 -0400 Subject: Where is Ximian Evolution Message-ID: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> Hi, Has Novell taken over Ximian evolution? What is the closest thing to evolution that I can try besides kmail? Thanks -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Jul 13 12:04:21 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:04:21 +0100 Subject: Where is Ximian Evolution In-Reply-To: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> References: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1089720261.7129.10.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi. > Has Novell taken over Ximian evolution? Yes. They did when they purchased Ximian. > What is the closest thing to evolution that I can try besides kmail? Sylpheed - it's not that nice, but works. TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Jul 13 12:23:15 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 08:23:15 -0400 Subject: When do the archives open for FC3T1? Message-ID: <20040713122315.GA5155@wolves.durham.nc.us> When is the official opening of the download archives? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From MSchwartz at MedAnalytics.com Tue Jul 13 12:33:39 2004 From: MSchwartz at MedAnalytics.com (Marc Schwartz) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:33:39 -0500 Subject: Where is Ximian Evolution In-Reply-To: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> References: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1089722019.3830.112.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 06:47, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Hi, > > Has Novell taken over Ximian evolution? Yes, but not just Evolution. They now own Ximian in its entirety. > What is the closest thing to evolution that I can try besides kmail? Why are you looking to move from Evolution? It is still part of the default FC distribution and will be for the foreseeable future, unless Novell closes it. In that case, I would expect to see a fork based upon the last available Open Source version. The argument against that step however is that Novell has made the Novell (formerly Ximian) Connector available as Open Source. This suggests a continuation of making these available to the community freely under the GPL. HTH, Marc Schwartz From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue Jul 13 12:44:49 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:44:49 +0200 Subject: When do the archives open for FC3T1? In-Reply-To: <20040713122315.GA5155@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040713122315.GA5155@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <20040713144449.19dc720c.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 08:23:15 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > When is the official opening of the download archives? Please wait for the official announcement. From darren at dzr-web.com Tue Jul 13 12:44:01 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:44:01 +0100 Subject: Where is Ximian Evolution In-Reply-To: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> References: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1089722641.22580.11.camel@excession.dzr> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 12:47, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Has Novell taken over Ximian evolution? Novell bought Ximian last summer, and SUSE a few months later. I would expect Ximian Evolution to be re-branded as Novell Evolution, but apart from that it will continue to be GPL, and will continue to be part of Fedora Core (in fact it will be part of the core GNOME desktop from GNOME 2.8, which will be part of FC3). > What is the closest thing to evolution that I can try besides kmail? Why do you want to change from Evolution? Novell are on a Linux/Open Source kick, and have actually open sourced some of their other products (such as Connector, iFolder). Evolution isn't going anywhere. If you're just looking to evaluate other mail apps then you could look at Sylpheed, Balsa, Mozilla mail, or Thunderbird. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Tue Jul 13 13:31:36 2004 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:31:36 -0400 Subject: AMD Athelon 64 FX In-Reply-To: <1089701122.19889.166.camel@lanfear.intra.cardinal.fi> References: <20040702152029.80316.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> <1089510242.3134.26.camel@bobcp4.lingpgmr.com> <1089701122.19889.166.camel@lanfear.intra.cardinal.fi> Message-ID: <40F3E438.3010009@atl.lmco.com> Paul-Erik T?rr?nen wrote: > On Sun, 2004-07-11 at 04:44, Robert L Cochran wrote: > >>So Fedora Core 2 should run fine on the Athlon 64 3800+ which is Socket >>939? Using the Asus A8V motherboard or perhaps the more expensive >>Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP-939 board which has the NForce3 Ultra chipset. > > > Out of interest, you might want to read the Anandtech article: > > http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2114 > > Personally I wouldn't claim that 'both Linux distributions also lay > waste to the 64-bit and 32-bit editions of Windows XP.' based on the > results shown on those pages. > > Poltsi > I wouldn't pay ANY attention to that article, as the AT staffers apparently can't navigate the nVidia website enough to find the latest drivers for their GeForce. Yeesh. All that whining about "no support for 4k stacks". -- ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs (856)792-9844 dstewart at atl.lmco.com From dmalcolm at redhat.com Tue Jul 13 14:23:29 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:23:29 -0400 Subject: Will evolution be coming to rawhide soon? In-Reply-To: <1089589863.4077.2.camel@matrix> References: <1089589863.4077.2.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1089728609.11148.5.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Sun, 2004-07-11 at 19:51 -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Hi, > > Will evolution be coming to rawhide soon? > ============================================== > Evolution 2.0.0 RC1 > Evolution Data Server 1.0.0 RC1 > =============================================== > > > I am having trouble when sending e-mail with the following version: > > evolution-1.5.9.2-1 > > When sending e-mail evolution crashes. Has anyone else seen this? Works for me (e.g this email). Please file a bug in bugzilla. From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Jul 13 16:52:59 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:52:59 -0500 Subject: FC3 T1 initial impressions Message-ID: <40F4136B.4020807@earthlink.net> Install went smoothly. Originally it seemed to hang on Mounting USB File System, but when I booted again this morning with the devices removed, it booted fine. I then added them to my fstab and it booted fine again. I then commented them out in fstab and it still booted fine with them plugged in. I'm not sure what the deal is, but it all seems fine now. Looks just like FC2 so far. This message is from Mozilla 1.7 mail. Gerry Tool From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Jul 13 18:09:37 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:09:37 -0500 Subject: FC3T1 Windows network not showing computer Message-ID: <40F42561.5030306@earthlink.net> After starting smb, Computer > Network shows Windows Network, but not a computer that is available. Is this a result of an SELinux policy? If so, how do I change it? In FC2 without SELinux enabled, the workgroup appears in the Windows Network window and the computer in the workgroup shows up in the workgroup window. Thanks. Gerry Tool From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Jul 13 19:07:46 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:07:46 +0100 Subject: FC3 t1? Message-ID: <1089745666.11871.12.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I'm running FC2 rawhide which had the last update around the 7th July. The only thing which has changed since then is the rpmdb-fedora rpm I've been onto the fedora ftp site and the 7.07 seems to be the last date of any updates. Is it safe to assume I'm running FC3 test1 or are there other changes in there which mean I need to download TTFN Paul (wishing there was a way to update via yum rather than downloading 2.1Gb of binary CD....) -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Jul 13 19:14:29 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 15:14:29 -0400 Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: <1089745666.11871.12.camel@T7.linux> References: <1089745666.11871.12.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <604aa7910407131214f5025ad@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:07:46 +0100, Paul wrote: > Is it safe to assume I'm running FC3 test1 or are there other changes in > there which mean I need to download You know... the anaconda installer needs testing... you might have all the same packages installed as fc3t1 but you haven't tested the script logic in anaconda that runs in the ramdisk environment that governs upgrading or fresh installing, which can't be duplicated with apt or yum. And i would argue thats its absolutely vital for people to test the anaconda installer as much as possible as early as possible. So please, go back... and test fresh install and upgrading using the fc3t1 install media and help test the installer. -jef From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 13 19:29:10 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:29:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: <1089745666.11871.12.camel@T7.linux> References: <1089745666.11871.12.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running FC2 rawhide which had the last update around the 7th July. > The only thing which has changed since then is the rpmdb-fedora rpm > > I've been onto the fedora ftp site and the 7.07 seems to be the last > date of any updates. > > Is it safe to assume I'm running FC3 test1 or are there other changes in > there which mean I need to download > > TTFN > > Paul > (wishing there was a way to update via yum rather than downloading 2.1Gb > of binary CD....) FC2T1 is just a snapshot of rawhide - so what you have should be equivalent. you can use yum to check (wrt fc2t1 repo). But then - updates to fc2t1 will be in rawhide anyway. What does 'cat /etc/fedora-release' say? Satish From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 13 19:32:40 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:32:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: References: <1089745666.11871.12.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > > FC2T1 is just a snapshot of rawhide - so what you have should be > equivalent. you can use yum to check (wrt fc2t1 repo). But then - > updates to fc2t1 will be in rawhide anyway. opps. /s/FC2T1/FC3T1/g Satish From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Jul 13 19:44:17 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:44:17 +0100 Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: References: <1089745666.11871.12.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1089747857.11871.14.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > What does 'cat /etc/fedora-release' say? Fedora Core Release 2 (Tettnang) TTFN Paul -- "If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent. I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 13 20:28:25 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 15:28:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: <1089747857.11871.14.camel@T7.linux> References: <1089745666.11871.12.camel@T7.linux> <1089747857.11871.14.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Paul wrote: > Hi, > >> What does 'cat /etc/fedora-release' say? > > Fedora Core Release 2 (Tettnang) Well I guess there are some updates that would bring it up to FC3T1. For the FC2 cycle the version change happened in rawhide before the isos were available.. Satish From b.j.smith at ieee.org Tue Jul 13 22:36:28 2004 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:36:28 -0400 Subject: FC3 "Minimum: Pentium-class" -- is this arch=486/opt=686? Message-ID: <1089758188.1194.33.camel@patriux.localdomain> Alan & co -- Just wanted to verify what the "Minimum: Pentium-class" requirements of Fedora Core (FC) 3 are. I assume the "Pentium-class" phrase means that a full 486 ISA with TLB and other features is the actual ISA (instruction set architecture) requirement -- meaning it is still compatible with very high speed "Pentium-class" embedded chips like those from SGS-Thompson and pre-Geode National Semi / AMD SC-series system-on-a-chip (SoC) stuff? [ Excusing, of course, anything that requires NPTL ] And then, atop of all that, the binaries are optimized for 686 (Pentium Pro). Correct? -- Linux Enthusiasts call me anti-Linux. Windows Enthusisats call me anti-Microsoft. They both must be correct because I have over a decade of experience with both in mission critical environments, resulting in a bigotry dedicated to mitigating risk and focusing on technologies ... not products or vendors -------------------------------------------------- Bryan J. Smith, E.I. b.j.smith at ieee.org From alan at redhat.com Tue Jul 13 23:44:22 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:44:22 -0400 Subject: FC3 "Minimum: Pentium-class" -- is this arch=486/opt=686? In-Reply-To: <1089758188.1194.33.camel@patriux.localdomain> References: <1089758188.1194.33.camel@patriux.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040713234422.GB4515@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 06:36:28PM -0400, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > I assume the "Pentium-class" phrase means that a full 486 ISA with TLB > and other features is the actual ISA (instruction set architecture) > requirement -- meaning it is still compatible with very high speed We don't ship a 486 kernel but if you built a 486 kernel yes. Really for the AMD SoC stuff you should build a custom kernel anyway as 2.6.x knows about that as a non PC platform and understands some of its quirks > [ Excusing, of course, anything that requires NPTL ] The plan was NTPL from 486 up, I'm a little out of the loop on the final result of that in test1 so a glibc person need to answer that > And then, atop of all that, the binaries are optimized for 686 (Pentium > Pro). > > Correct? Yes From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 14 01:07:58 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: <604aa7910407131214f5025ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040714010758.93735.qmail@web80803.mail.yahoo.com> --- Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:07:46 +0100, Paul > wrote: > > Is it safe to assume I'm running FC3 test1 or are > there other changes in > > there which mean I need to download > > You know... the anaconda installer needs testing... > you might have all the same packages installed as > fc3t1 but you > haven't tested the script logic in anaconda that > runs in the ramdisk > environment that governs upgrading or fresh > installing, which can't be > duplicated with apt or yum. And i would argue thats > its absolutely > vital for people to test the anaconda installer as > much as possible as > early as possible. So please, go back... and test > fresh install and > upgrading using the fc3t1 install media and help > test the installer. > > > -jef > I tried the installer on two different OS versions on my desktop. They both seemed to die at selinux areas. A bug report is submitted. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127796 Is the bug that I submitted. What type of results have people had with clean installs? Jim From ernesto at ornl.gov Wed Jul 14 01:25:39 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:25:39 -0400 Subject: Where is Ximian Evolution In-Reply-To: <1089722019.3830.112.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> <1089722019.3830.112.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1089768339.7890.2.camel@matrix> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 07:33 -0500, Marc Schwartz wrote: > On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 06:47, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Has Novell taken over Ximian evolution? > > Yes, but not just Evolution. They now own Ximian in its entirety. > > > What is the closest thing to evolution that I can try besides kmail? > > Why are you looking to move from Evolution? I really like evolution but since the Novell purchase did the development slow down. I have not seen any recent updates on rawhide. The version that I currently have crashes every time I send e-mail. My version: evolution-1.5.9.2-1 > It is still part of the > default FC distribution and will be for the foreseeable future, unless > Novell closes it. In that case, I would expect to see a fork based upon > the last available Open Source version. > > The argument against that step however is that Novell has made the > Novell (formerly Ximian) Connector available as Open Source. This > suggests a continuation of making these available to the community > freely under the GPL. If they remain GPL, I will stick with evolution. > > HTH, > > Marc Schwartz > > > > > -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From gstool at earthlink.net Wed Jul 14 01:32:59 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:32:59 -0500 Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: <20040714010758.93735.qmail@web80803.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040714010758.93735.qmail@web80803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40F48D4B.3020707@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > > I tried the installer on two different OS versions on > my desktop. They both seemed to die at selinux areas. > A bug report is submitted. > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127796 > > Is the bug that I submitted. What type of results have > people had with clean installs? > > > Jim My clean install of FC3T1 went without a hitch. I used an old ext3 partition that had contained MDK 10.0, reformatting it. Had GRUB install the boot record on that partition and then copied the grub.conf entry to another grub.conf in FC2 which uses the MBR. First boot hung on "Mounting USB File System" which repeated once and then has worked flawlessly since I mucked with unplugging USB storage media, adding fstab entries, etc. I could not duplicate the hang after that. Everything I've tried has worked as expected. Gerry Tool From darren at dzr-web.com Wed Jul 14 01:40:53 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 02:40:53 +0100 Subject: Where is Ximian Evolution In-Reply-To: <1089768339.7890.2.camel@matrix> References: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> <1089722019.3830.112.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1089768339.7890.2.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1089769253.22580.111.camel@excession.dzr> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 02:25, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > I really like evolution but since the Novell purchase did the > development slow down. I have not seen any recent updates on rawhide. > The version that I currently have crashes every time I send e-mail. > My version: evolution-1.5.9.2-1 Evolution's release numbers are like the kernel's numbering: n.m.x means that n is the major release number, m is a stable version if it is even, but otherwise an unstable release when it is an odd number, and x indicates an iteration within that stable or unstable branch. So, !.5.9 is part of the unstable development branch, and, basically, you should *expect* it to crash! -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From ernesto at ornl.gov Wed Jul 14 01:58:41 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:58:41 -0400 Subject: Where is Ximian Evolution In-Reply-To: <1089769253.22580.111.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> <1089722019.3830.112.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1089768339.7890.2.camel@matrix> <1089769253.22580.111.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <1089770321.8250.2.camel@matrix> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 02:40 +0100, D. D. Brierton wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 02:25, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > I really like evolution but since the Novell purchase did the > > development slow down. I have not seen any recent updates on rawhide. > > The version that I currently have crashes every time I send e-mail. > > My version: evolution-1.5.9.2-1 > > Evolution's release numbers are like the kernel's numbering: n.m.x means > that n is the major release number, m is a stable version if it is even, > but otherwise an unstable release when it is an odd number, and x > indicates an iteration within that stable or unstable branch. So, !.5.9 > is part of the unstable development branch, and, basically, you should > *expect* it to crash! I do expect it to crash but was unsure about the development cycle now that NOVELL is in the picture. There has already been a bug submitted to bugzilla by someone else. I am just waiting for a new unstable iteration to land in rawhide so I can grab the latest fixes. I will be patient. > > -- > ===================================================================== > D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com > Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) > ===================================================================== > > -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 14 02:16:13 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:16:13 -0400 Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: <40F48D4B.3020707@earthlink.net> References: <20040714010758.93735.qmail@web80803.mail.yahoo.com> <40F48D4B.3020707@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40F4976D.6000305@sbcglobal.net> Gerry Tool wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> >> I tried the installer on two different OS versions on >> my desktop. They both seemed to die at selinux areas. >> A bug report is submitted. >> >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127796 >> >> Is the bug that I submitted. What type of results have >> people had with clean installs? >> >> >> Jim > > > My clean install of FC3T1 went without a hitch. I used an old ext3 > partition that had contained MDK 10.0, reformatting it. Had GRUB > install the boot record on that partition and then copied the grub.conf > entry to another grub.conf in FC2 which uses the MBR. First boot hung > on "Mounting USB File System" which repeated once and then has worked > flawlessly since I mucked with unplugging USB storage media, adding > fstab entries, etc. I could not duplicate the hang after that. > > Everything I've tried has worked as expected. > > Gerry Tool > > Do you suppose the usb lockup might be selinux related? Not a bad count for one minor issue. Can you leave the usb devices plugged in for each boot now? Or must they be unplugged until the booting of the machine is completed? For me, with the upgrades that I am trying. I opted to try with selinux=0 to install on my clean install of FC2. The upgrade is proceeding normally with selinux disabled. I'll have an upgrade.log to add to the bug that I submitted regarding anaconda dumping. I hope the upgrade installation can be fixed for or before test2 is ready. Jim From walters at redhat.com Wed Jul 14 02:22:23 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:22:23 -0400 Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: <40F4976D.6000305@sbcglobal.net> References: <20040714010758.93735.qmail@web80803.mail.yahoo.com> <40F48D4B.3020707@earthlink.net> <40F4976D.6000305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1089771743.5821.8.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 22:16 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Do you suppose the usb lockup might be selinux related? Possible but quite unlikely. Try booting with enforcing=0 to be 99.9% sure. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gstool at earthlink.net Wed Jul 14 02:43:37 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:43:37 -0500 Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: <40F4976D.6000305@sbcglobal.net> References: <20040714010758.93735.qmail@web80803.mail.yahoo.com> <40F48D4B.3020707@earthlink.net> <40F4976D.6000305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40F49DD9.2050002@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Do you suppose the usb lockup might be selinux related? I suspected that, but I now have no lockup and have done nothing for selinux policy. > Not a bad count for one minor issue. Can you leave the usb devices > plugged in for each boot now? Or must they be unplugged until the > booting of the machine is completed? It boots fine with or without the devices plugged in. My USB key works as in FC2, but my Smart Media reader does not show up as it does in FC2. I'll try to understand that later. > For me, with the upgrades that I am trying. I opted to try with > selinux=0 to install on my clean install of FC2. The upgrade is > proceeding normally with selinux disabled. I'll have an upgrade.log to > add to the bug that I submitted regarding anaconda dumping. I hope the > upgrade installation can be fixed for or before test2 is ready. Let's hope. Gerry From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 14 03:58:39 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:58:39 -0400 Subject: A directory /selinux needs removed before upgrading - anaconda lockup Message-ID: <40F4AF6F.9070402@sbcglobal.net> As a follow-up to installations and selinux. If there is a directory hanging out from fc2 called /selinux, the upgrade will hang the installer. This was fixed in cvs. The removal of the directory and trying again was discovered by Dave Jones. Using linux selinux=0 works also to get past this bug. It worked for me anyway. I'll try Dave's solution for my other installation. (selinux enabled) Jim -- Sysadmin didn't hear pager go off due to loud music from bar-room speakers. From katzj at redhat.com Wed Jul 14 05:36:15 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:36:15 -0400 Subject: FC3 t1? In-Reply-To: <40F4976D.6000305@sbcglobal.net> References: <20040714010758.93735.qmail@web80803.mail.yahoo.com> <40F48D4B.3020707@earthlink.net> <40F4976D.6000305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1089783375.2174.64.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 22:16 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > For me, with the upgrades that I am trying. I opted to try with > selinux=0 to install on my clean install of FC2. The upgrade is > proceeding normally with selinux disabled. I'll have an upgrade.log to > add to the bug that I submitted regarding anaconda dumping. I hope the > upgrade installation can be fixed for or before test2 is ready. That will work or just rm /selinux before rebooting to do the upgrade (or switch to tty2 before packages actually start being upgraded and rm /mnt/sysimage/selinux) and things should work. Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Wed Jul 14 05:39:10 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:39:10 -0400 Subject: Where is Ximian Evolution In-Reply-To: <1089770321.8250.2.camel@matrix> References: <1089719245.6490.1.camel@matrix> <1089722019.3830.112.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1089768339.7890.2.camel@matrix> <1089769253.22580.111.camel@excession.dzr> <1089770321.8250.2.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1089783550.2174.66.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 21:58 -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > I do expect it to crash but was unsure about the development cycle now > that NOVELL is in the picture. Hasn't really changed appreciably. 2.0 is taking a little bit longer than the original plan, but that's more due to the magnitude of changes than anything else (has taken a little bit longer to flesh out) > There has already been a bug submitted to bugzilla by someone else. I > am just waiting for a new unstable iteration to land in rawhide so I can > grab the latest fixes. I will be patient. Should be there tomorrow (err, guess that's today now :). rawhide just gets a little bit clogged around test release freezes due to some of the implementation details of how we build trees Jeremy From jorton at redhat.com Wed Jul 14 10:28:56 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:28:56 +0100 Subject: SELinux policy update for FC2. Fixes problem with devnull sid In-Reply-To: <40F2F008.5090602@redhat.com> References: <40F2F008.5090602@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040714102856.GA11981@redhat.com> I get warnings when running up2date now after installing this: Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... WARNING: Multiple same specifications for /var/lost\+found(/.*)?. WARNING: Multiple same specifications for /var/a?quota.(user|group). WARNING: Multiple same specifications for /var/\.journal. policy-sources-1.11.3-3.1 policycoreutils-1.11-2 policy-strict-sources-1.11.3-3.1 policy-1.11.3-3.1 From ernesto at ornl.gov Wed Jul 14 11:12:05 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:12:05 -0400 Subject: Where is Ximian Evolution Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A09F6@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Jeremy Katz Sent: Wed 7/14/2004 1:39 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Where is Ximian Evolution On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 21:58 -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > I do expect it to crash but was unsure about the development cycle now > that NOVELL is in the picture. Hasn't really changed appreciably. 2.0 is taking a little bit longer than the original plan, but that's more due to the magnitude of changes than anything else (has taken a little bit longer to flesh out) > There has already been a bug submitted to bugzilla by someone else. I > am just waiting for a new unstable iteration to land in rawhide so I can > grab the latest fixes. I will be patient. Should be there tomorrow (err, guess that's today now :). rawhide just gets a little bit clogged around test release freezes due to some of the implementation details of how we build trees ==== Thanks you, Jeremy. I will try out the new release today. Jeremy -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From gstool at earthlink.net Wed Jul 14 12:04:59 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:04:59 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 up2date will not start from tray applet Message-ID: <40F5216B.3020908@earthlink.net> To see if there were any updates yet, I clicked on the up2date tray icon. It gave me the root password dialog and then did nothing. I had to run up2date from the command line where it opened the configuration dialog and asked me to install the gpg key. It will still not run from the blue check mark applet. The Red Hat Network Alert Notification Tool dialog opens, but clicking on Launch up2date does nothing. Is this a bug that is repeatable? If so, I'll bugzilla it. Gerry Tool From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Wed Jul 14 12:09:35 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:09:35 -0400 Subject: FC3T1 Windows network not showing computer In-Reply-To: <40F42561.5030306@earthlink.net> References: <40F42561.5030306@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1089806975.32376.1.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 14:09, Gerry Tool wrote: > After starting smb, Computer > Network shows Windows Network, but not a > computer that is available. Is this a result of an SELinux policy? If > so, how do I change it? > > In FC2 without SELinux enabled, the workgroup appears in the Windows > Network window and the computer in the workgroup shows up in the > workgroup window. If it is the result of SELinux policy, then you should see avc: denied ... messages in /var/log/messages. But I wouldn't expect it to be caused by SELinux, as FC3T1 is using the targeted policy, which only confines a small set of processes. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From linuxworld at telenet.be Wed Jul 14 12:33:12 2004 From: linuxworld at telenet.be (Johan) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:33:12 +0200 Subject: fc3t1 up2date will not start from tray applet In-Reply-To: <40F5216B.3020908@earthlink.net> References: <40F5216B.3020908@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40F52808.1000500@telenet.be> Gerry Tool wrote: > To see if there were any updates yet, I clicked on the up2date tray > icon. It gave me the root password dialog and then did nothing. I had > to run > up2date from the command line where it opened the configuration > dialog and asked me to install the gpg key. > > It will still not run from the blue check mark applet. The Red Hat > Network > Alert Notification Tool dialog opens, but clicking on Launch up2date does > nothing. > > Is this a bug that is repeatable? If so, I'll bugzilla it. > > Gerry Tool > > No problems here when i run it from blue check mark applet. Johan From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Jul 14 12:44:56 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:44:56 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 up2date will not start from tray applet In-Reply-To: <40F5216B.3020908@earthlink.net> References: <40F5216B.3020908@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1089809096.2621.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 07:04 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > To see if there were any updates yet, I clicked on the up2date tray icon. > It gave me the root password dialog and then did nothing. I had to run > up2date from the command line where it opened the configuration > dialog and asked me to install the gpg key. > > It will still not run from the blue check mark applet. The Red Hat Network > Alert Notification Tool dialog opens, but clicking on Launch up2date does > nothing. > > Is this a bug that is repeatable? If so, I'll bugzilla it. Do you have selinux enabled? I did and had the same thing, cept after putting in root password, it didn't seem to let me go through with the program. As in, selinux didn't have correct setup to allow it or something. Mine is only a home workstation so I just disabled selinux for now. Mike From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Wed Jul 14 13:48:43 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:48:43 -0400 Subject: fc3t1 up2date will not start from tray applet In-Reply-To: <1089809096.2621.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <40F5216B.3020908@earthlink.net> <1089809096.2621.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1089812923.32376.80.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 08:44, Mike Chambers wrote: > Do you have selinux enabled? I did and had the same thing, cept after > putting in root password, it didn't seem to let me go through with the > program. As in, selinux didn't have correct setup to allow it or > something. > > Mine is only a home workstation so I just disabled selinux for now. Looks like the targeted policy needs to typealias rpm_t to unconfined_t so that the TYPE=rpm_t entry in /etc/security/console.apps/up2date will work under either strict or targeted policy. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Wed Jul 14 14:29:29 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:29:29 -0400 Subject: sshd cannot alloc pty under fc3t1 Message-ID: <20040714142929.GA19436@wolves.durham.nc.us> I am attempting to ssh from an FC1 machine to a new fc3t1 install and the attempt hangs with a failure to allocate a pty on the fc3t1 box. the system is setup correctly, and .ssh/known_hosts is working properly. /var/log/secure says: Jul 14 10:15:15 tembo sshd[5357]: pam_succeed_if: requirement "uid < 100" not met by user "ggw" Jul 14 10:15:15 tembo sshd[5357]: Accepted password for ggw from ::ffff:10.11.12.1 port 52980 ssh2 Jul 14 10:16:35 tembo sshd[5357]: error: openpty: No such file or directory Jul 14 10:16:35 tembo sshd[5359]: error: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc failed The openpty also fails for attempts by root. Examination of -v -v ssh doesn't reveal anything relevant to ptys. Anyone else seeing this? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Wed Jul 14 14:53:09 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:53:09 -0500 Subject: reiserfs Message-ID: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> Is there any plans to implement the reiserfs into fc. I just installed fc3-t1 and see it's still not there. I notice on average about a 50% throughput increase on my linux workstations with this file system. On top of that the recovery time on recovering the journal is a lot faster too. Timothy From mike at flyn.org Wed Jul 14 15:03:09 2004 From: mike at flyn.org (W. Michael Petullo) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:03:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> References: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> Message-ID: <16952.66.151.13.191.1089817389.squirrel@66.151.13.191> > Is there any plans to implement the reiserfs into fc. I just installed > fc3-t1 and see it's still not there. I notice on average about a 50% > throughput increase on my linux workstations with this file system. On > top of that the recovery time on recovering the journal is a lot faster > too. And, of course, ReiserFS will provide an elegant way to store metadata and other little things that are becoming such the rage. -- Mike From swardell at team.bantu.com Wed Jul 14 15:13:56 2004 From: swardell at team.bantu.com (Steve Wardell) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:13:56 -0400 Subject: FC3T1 - "Terminal Services"-like VNC changes Message-ID: <40F54DB4.6040905@team.bantu.com> I've installed FC3 Test 1 and am looking for the vnc Terminal Services like support (http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-June/msg00007.html) that was listed as being a part of this release. Is it part of the release or does one need to install the RPMs from http://people.redhat.com/markmc/terminal-services-demo/fc3/i386/ ? How does one set it up or does the installation of the RPMs from markmc install and configure it to work right away once installed? Thanks, Steve From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Wed Jul 14 15:21:38 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:21:38 -0500 Subject: e1000 quits working when switching desktops Message-ID: <1089818498.2018.13.camel@saturn> My intel pro 1000 quit working when I switched desktops from gnome to kde. I tried down/up on eth0 to no avail. I had to reboot to get it working again. Timothy From ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org Wed Jul 14 15:23:49 2004 From: ralph+fedora at strg-alt-entf.org (Ralph Angenendt) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:23:49 +0200 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> References: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> Message-ID: <20040714152349.GB10449@br-online.de> Timothy Sandel wrote: > Is there any plans to implement the reiserfs into fc. I just installed > fc3-t1 and see it's still not there. When on the bootscreen, type "linux reiserfs". It's there. But it's not supported. 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From vectrox at home.nl Wed Jul 14 16:10:34 2004 From: vectrox at home.nl (Tim Raats) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:10:34 +0200 Subject: up2date from console does not work properly Message-ID: <1089821434.2446.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> I get a error when I try to install something within a terminal with up2date. Example: up2date xmms When I do this I get the follow output: Could not set exec context to root:sysadm_r:rpm_t. How can I resolve this ? From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Wed Jul 14 16:11:13 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:11:13 -0500 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <20040714152349.GB10449@br-online.de> References: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> <20040714152349.GB10449@br-online.de> Message-ID: <1089821473.2020.18.camel@saturn> Doesn't work. Lets you specify reiserfs, but when you get to the installing packages screen it just hangs. Timothy On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 17:23 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Timothy Sandel wrote: > > Is there any plans to implement the reiserfs into fc. I just installed > > fc3-t1 and see it's still not there. > > When on the bootscreen, type "linux reiserfs". It's there. But it's not > supported. > > Ralph From barryn at pobox.com Wed Jul 14 16:34:59 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:34:59 -0700 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <20040714152349.GB10449@br-online.de> References: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> <20040714152349.GB10449@br-online.de> Message-ID: <20040714163459.GA3791@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:23:49PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Timothy Sandel wrote: > > Is there any plans to implement the reiserfs into fc. I just installed > > fc3-t1 and see it's still not there. > > When on the bootscreen, type "linux reiserfs". It's there. But it's not > supported. Right now you need to do "linux reiserfs selinux=0" to avoid being bitten by bug 127743. -Barry K. Nathan From jbourne at hardrock.org Wed Jul 14 16:38:54 2004 From: jbourne at hardrock.org (James Bourne) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:38:54 -0600 (MDT) Subject: FC3-t1 issues Message-ID: Hi, I have 3 issues with the install/run of FC3-t1, one has been handled here already (/selinux exists in FC2 install). The other 2 are: o When I went to read the release notes from the installer, the hour glass came up and they were never displayed. The console reported: --- File /usr/lib/anaconda/iw/release_notes_viewer_gui.py line 19 in ? import gtk File /usr/src/build/412299-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 42 in ? Runtime Error: could not open display --- o xscreensaver when using pam_ldap to authenticate will crash (this is a known issue) bug ID 121923. --- Other then that everything seems to work really nicely from what I've tried. Regards James -- James Bourne | Email: jbourne at hardrock.org Unix Systems Administrator | WWW: http://www.hardrock.org Custom UNIX Programming | Linux: The choice of a GNU generation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "All you need's an occasional kick in the philosophy." Frank Herbert From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Wed Jul 14 17:29:35 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:29:35 -0400 Subject: up2date from console does not work properly In-Reply-To: <1089821434.2446.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1089821434.2446.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1089826175.4116.11.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 12:10, Tim Raats wrote: > I get a error when I try to install something within a terminal with > up2date. > > Example: > > up2date xmms > > When I do this I get the follow output: Could not set exec context to > root:sysadm_r:rpm_t. > > How can I resolve this ? Run /usr/sbin/up2date from a su'd shell until the targeted policy is fixed. You might want to try updating selinux-policy-targeted from ftp://people.redhat.com/dwalsh/SELinux/Fedora; that should include the fix. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Wed Jul 14 17:32:37 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:32:37 -0400 Subject: up2date from console does not work properly In-Reply-To: <1089826175.4116.11.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> References: <1089821434.2446.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1089826175.4116.11.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <1089826357.4116.13.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 13:29, Stephen Smalley wrote: > Run /usr/sbin/up2date from a su'd shell until the targeted policy is > fixed. You might want to try updating selinux-policy-targeted from > ftp://people.redhat.com/dwalsh/SELinux/Fedora; that should include the > fix. Alternatively, remove ROLE=sysadm_r and TYPE=rpm_t from /etc/security/console.apps/up2date. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From gstool at earthlink.net Wed Jul 14 18:03:15 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:03:15 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 up2date will not start from tray applet In-Reply-To: <1089812923.32376.80.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> References: <40F5216B.3020908@earthlink.net> <1089809096.2621.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1089812923.32376.80.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <40F57563.7040709@earthlink.net> Stephen Smalley wrote: >On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 08:44, Mike Chambers wrote: > > >>Do you have selinux enabled? I did and had the same thing, cept after >>putting in root password, it didn't seem to let me go through with the >>program. As in, selinux didn't have correct setup to allow it or >>something. >> >>Mine is only a home workstation so I just disabled selinux for now. >> >> > >Looks like the targeted policy needs to typealias rpm_t to unconfined_t >so that the TYPE=rpm_t entry in /etc/security/console.apps/up2date will >work under either strict or targeted policy. > > > Yes, I did have selinux enabled, and by adding selinux=0 to the kernel boot line, the rhn applet now starts up2date as it should. Is this a bug that should be reported? Gerry Tool From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Wed Jul 14 18:06:54 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:06:54 -0400 Subject: fc3t1 up2date will not start from tray applet In-Reply-To: <40F57563.7040709@earthlink.net> References: <40F5216B.3020908@earthlink.net> <1089809096.2621.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1089812923.32376.80.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <40F57563.7040709@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1089828414.4116.27.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 14:03, Gerry Tool wrote: > Yes, I did have selinux enabled, and by adding selinux=0 to the kernel > boot line, the rhn applet now starts up2date as it should. Is this a > bug that should be reported? It has been fixed in the latest targeted policy, just needs to make its way to the development tree. Available from ftp://people.redhat.com/dwalsh/SELinux/Fedora at the moment. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From pete at madhippy.com Wed Jul 14 18:14:44 2004 From: pete at madhippy.com (Pete Robinson) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:14:44 +0100 Subject: Sis964 SATA Message-ID: <1089828884.24294.9.camel@wendy> Any news on SIS964 SATA support in the Fedora installation kernel? Currently downloading the latest amd64 release so I guess I'll find out in a while :) From zac9 at CDC.GOV Wed Jul 14 18:06:50 2004 From: zac9 at CDC.GOV (Sessoms, Mack) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:06:50 -0400 Subject: Media check says cds are fedora core 2 . Message-ID: <40F5763A.3080009@cdc.gov> anyone besides me notice that when you do a media check on fc3-t1 cds it says "Checking Fedora Core 2 disc ..."? From cjtinhp at optonline.net Wed Jul 14 18:59:53 2004 From: cjtinhp at optonline.net (Craig Thomas) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:59:53 -0400 Subject: Media check says cds are fedora core 2 . In-Reply-To: <40F5763A.3080009@cdc.gov> References: <40F5763A.3080009@cdc.gov> Message-ID: <40F582A9.3010304@optonline.net> Sessoms, Mack wrote: > anyone besides me notice that when you do a media check on fc3-t1 cds it > says "Checking Fedora Core 2 disc ..."? Yep. -- Craig Thomas [cjtinhp at optonline.net] From mclark323 at cox.net Wed Jul 14 19:22:22 2004 From: mclark323 at cox.net (Marshall Clark) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:22:22 -0700 Subject: FC3-x86_64 In-Reply-To: <20040714163459.GA3791@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> References: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> <20040714152349.GB10449@br-online.de> <20040714163459.GA3791@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> Message-ID: <1089832942.12661.5.camel@ip68-230-39-202.ph.ph.cox.net> Tried to install testing 2.9 64bit this AM after download/burn/check checksum, all I get is a screen that looks like an old appointment book cover. Looks kind of like old marble(black and white). Nothing else happens. FC2 works great on my system now. Gigabyte mobo with +3200 chip. Graphics card is ATI 9800 and a separate TV tuner card(Hauppage). From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Wed Jul 14 19:25:48 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:25:48 -0500 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <20040714163459.GA3791@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> References: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> <20040714152349.GB10449@br-online.de> <20040714163459.GA3791@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> Message-ID: <1089833148.2010.20.camel@saturn> Thanks. Worked perfectly. Timothy On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 09:34 -0700, Barry K. Nathan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 05:23:49PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > > Timothy Sandel wrote: > > > Is there any plans to implement the reiserfs into fc. I just installed > > > fc3-t1 and see it's still not there. > > > > When on the bootscreen, type "linux reiserfs". It's there. But it's not > > supported. > > Right now you need to do "linux reiserfs selinux=0" to avoid being > bitten by bug 127743. > > -Barry K. Nathan > > From jbourne at hardrock.org Wed Jul 14 19:29:29 2004 From: jbourne at hardrock.org (James Bourne) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:29:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Media check says cds are fedora core 2 . In-Reply-To: <40F5763A.3080009@cdc.gov> References: <40F5763A.3080009@cdc.gov> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Sessoms, Mack wrote: > anyone besides me notice that when you do a media check on fc3-t1 cds it > says "Checking Fedora Core 2 disc ..."? Yes, this is just because of the volume ID put on the ISOs. I'm sure it will be changed for the final release. Regards James -- James Bourne | Email: jbourne at hardrock.org Unix Systems Administrator | WWW: http://www.hardrock.org Custom UNIX Programming | Linux: The choice of a GNU generation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "All you need's an occasional kick in the philosophy." Frank Herbert From rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu Wed Jul 14 21:38:44 2004 From: rob.myers at gtri.gatech.edu (Rob Myers) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:38:44 -0400 Subject: FC3-t1 issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1089841124.12451.121.camel@rXm-581b.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 12:38, James Bourne wrote: > o xscreensaver when using pam_ldap to authenticate will crash (this is a > known issue) bug ID 121923. sounds like a dupe of this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121734 can i nominate this bug to be fixed before release? :) rob. From teg at pvv.org Wed Jul 14 22:05:52 2004 From: teg at pvv.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Eivind_Glomsr=F8d?=) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:05:52 +0200 Subject: Broadcom net drivers for FC2 In-Reply-To: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> Message-ID: <40F5AE40.9020800@pvv.org> Dima Gutzeit wrote: >Hi all , > >I am installing FC2 with all the updates on DL140 HP Proliant server. It has >a Gigabit Broadcom network adapter. >The problem is that those adapters are being recognized by FC2. > > They have been recognized by the tg3 driver for a long while... I installed a couple of hundred DL140s with an older version of Red Hat Linux just last week (2.4.18-27.7.x is the first kernel with a tg3 driver working with it out of the box). From concert at europe.com Wed Jul 14 22:51:29 2004 From: concert at europe.com (t l) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:51:29 -0800 Subject: hex messages in /var/log/messages? (New to FC3t1) Message-ID: <20040714225129.BCC05101C9@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> After moving to FC3t1 I've begun to notice hex messages in the log: ul 14 15:26:11 fedora rc: Starting pcmcia: succeeded Jul 14 15:26:11 fedora kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). Jul 14 15:26:11 fedora kernel: 88 3f 03 05 00 40 ed 9d 3d f2 9c ae b4 b0 84 03 e4 11 02 43 14 00 9f 77 26 02 81 64 70 35 0a 48 40 a6 34 b4 0a c2 76 51 36 12 ca 00 a0 b4 48 78 f6 6d 36 ae 96 27 4e 14 7e 72 1a 91 83 e8 2f f0 eb Jul 14 15:26:11 fedora kernel: 43 14 27 2a 08 0c dc df 95 51 66 14 1c 50 0a 69 e1 29 e7 cf Jul 14 15:26:11 fedora kernel: 88 3f 03 05 00 40 ed 9d 3c f2 9c ae b4 b0 84 03 e4 11 02 c9 bb 00 9e 3c c7 4c 7f e1 a1 db 6a 48 67 3c d1 81 74 a0 64 0c 7e 74 33 00 a0 dc 06 c2 39 64 ed d7 ca 73 b5 6f fe a7 68 1f 34 1f 07 00 a1 Jul 14 15:26:11 fedora kernel: c9 bb 58 c8 d4 a5 7f 19 aa e9 12 ff ac ff d3 45 58 dd f8 4a Jul 14 15:26:11 fedora kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds There are lots more.... (happening on 2 different FC3t1 systems). Anyone seeing this? tom -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From jbourne at hardrock.org Wed Jul 14 23:19:38 2004 From: jbourne at hardrock.org (James Bourne) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:19:38 -0600 (MDT) Subject: FC3-t1 issues In-Reply-To: <1089841124.12451.121.camel@rXm-581b.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> References: <1089841124.12451.121.camel@rXm-581b.stl.gtri.gatech.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Rob Myers wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 12:38, James Bourne wrote: > > o xscreensaver when using pam_ldap to authenticate will crash (this is a > > known issue) bug ID 121923. > > sounds like a dupe of this one: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121734 > > can i nominate this bug to be fixed before release? :) I would agree that it should be. Turning off TLS in /etc/ldap.conf does seem to work around the issue. Regards James > > rob. > > > -- James Bourne | Email: jbourne at hardrock.org Unix Systems Administrator | WWW: http://www.hardrock.org Custom UNIX Programming | Linux: The choice of a GNU generation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "All you need's an occasional kick in the philosophy." Frank Herbert From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 15 01:48:56 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:48:56 -0400 Subject: VMware version 4.5.2 and FC2 to FC3T1 upgrade, after-effects - kernel panic Message-ID: <40F5E288.4040702@sbcglobal.net> I just upgraded an installation of FC2 to FC3T1 and the installation process took about 2 hours to complete. This was not really a problem, just something noticed. The problem is that the kernel that I was running on FC2 seemed to be working alright. After the upgrade and rebooting the machine, a kernel panic was encountered. After the panic, I tried the rescue CD for FC2 and it worked and I could chroot /mnt/sysimage and things seemed to be working in the CLI properly. I did not try to fire up the GUI in rescue mode. I then booted up in "linux rescue" mode with the FC3T1 disk and recieved this error screen. Here is a screenshot rom the bug report submitted. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=101917&action=view --- I am thinking that this is a kernel that was trimmed a wee bit too much from the kernel on the FC2 rescue CD to FC3T1. I'm not sure to as how far back this dieting kernel flopped out at. Is anyone noticing any panics within a vmware installation. I tried changing the LABEL= references to /dev/sdx# references and the kernel still panicked. I tried booting without an intird image and also tried to create an image. The creation of an initird image gave me some error where I would get an error pointing to my modules directory and appending to the end what was meant to be my /boot/intird.img. Something like /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.478/boot/intird.img -- You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot today. From katzj at redhat.com Thu Jul 15 05:14:03 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:14:03 -0400 Subject: hex messages in /var/log/messages? (New to FC3t1) In-Reply-To: <20040714225129.BCC05101C9@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040714225129.BCC05101C9@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1089868443.7471.71.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 14:51 -0800, t l wrote: > After moving to FC3t1 I've begun to notice hex messages in the log: [snip] > There are lots more.... (happening on 2 different FC3t1 systems). > > Anyone seeing this? It's just debugging output from the signed modules infrastructure (that was missing an if (debug) from what I remember Arjan saying). It can be safely ignored and is gone in newer kernels. Jeremy From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 15 11:48:02 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:48:02 -0400 Subject: stuck w/ a 640 x 480 resolution - Dell 828656 Graphics controller Message-ID: <40F66EF2.10304@sbcglobal.net> I am trying to setup a Dell computer with an 828656 Graphics controller card. I found that after initial installation and after selecting the resolution (any higher than 640 x 480), the system-config-display will allow selection and application of higher settings. The actual screen will be 640 x 480 regardless of the settings chosen and displayed through system-config-display. Now, with gnome-display-properties, you cannot choose any resolution higher than 640 x 480 or change the color settings. Though these settings seem to be a true reflection of what the X server is actually doing, how can higher resolutions be obtained with this card. The driver that this 845 card selects is an "i810". The computer that I'm using now is older and uses an "i815" and works great! 1) Is there a way to get the resolution corrected to do better than 640 x 480, with this type of video card, using Fedora? 2) Is the i810 driver correct for this card to use? This happens with an FC2 install or with an FC3T1 install. Any leads or solutions appreciated. I seem to remember someone trying to describe a similar problem. I don't recall a solution announced for this hardware. Jim From alan at redhat.com Thu Jul 15 11:50:26 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:50:26 -0400 Subject: stuck w/ a 640 x 480 resolution - Dell 828656 Graphics controller In-Reply-To: <40F66EF2.10304@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F66EF2.10304@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040715115026.GA20569@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 07:48:02AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > 1) Is there a way to get the resolution corrected to do better than 640 > x 480, with this type of video card, using Fedora? If you edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and uncomment the monitor frequency values does it then allow you to use higher mode lines ? The 640x480 limiting can occur due to inability to read monitor DDC values (that is to ask the monitor what modes it supports) Alan -- "Luke Skywalker falls in with the wrong people, and is led astray by an old preacher using a mix of family connections and mysticism. After accidentally leading the forces of law to their terrorist hideout he escapes by sabotaging a nuclear reactor - killing many people." From arjanv at redhat.com Thu Jul 15 12:18:15 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:18:15 +0200 Subject: stuck w/ a 640 x 480 resolution - Dell 828656 Graphics controller In-Reply-To: <40F66EF2.10304@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F66EF2.10304@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1089893894.2710.28.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 13:48, Jim Cornette wrote: > I am trying to setup a Dell computer with an 828656 Graphics controller > card. I found that after initial installation and after selecting the > resolution (any higher than 640 x 480), the system-config-display will > allow selection and application of higher settings. The actual screen > will be 640 x 480 regardless of the settings chosen and displayed > through system-config-display. try going into the bios and giving the card more video memory... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mitch at metauser.net Thu Jul 15 12:47:49 2004 From: mitch at metauser.net (Mitch Anderson) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 06:47:49 -0600 Subject: stuck w/ a 640 x 480 resolution - Dell 828656 Graphics controller In-Reply-To: <40F66EF2.10304@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F66EF2.10304@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1089895669.8791.29.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 05:48, Jim Cornette wrote: > 1) Is there a way to get the resolution corrected to do better than 640 > x 480, with this type of video card, using Fedora? Yes, it has been a known problem with some Dell models. Seems its a BIOS problem. Setting the Video RAM buffer to 8M instead of the default 1M usually fixes it. However they "attempted" to fix the bios in an A03 release which made the bios fix no longer work. You just have to force 32MB - 48MB for its video ram in X.org's config. These two options have solved the problem for me, however here is some more info about it: http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/855patch.html > > 2) Is the i810 driver correct for this card to use? Yes it is > Mitch From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Jul 15 13:47:43 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:47:43 +0100 Subject: Undefined symbol in the current Evolution Message-ID: <20040715144743.6860fab6.paul@all-the-johnsons.co.uk> Hi, I can't currently use the version of Evolution as it is giving an error which occurs when I click to open one of my mail folders evolution: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/evolution/1.5/components/libevolution-mail.so: undefined symbol: e_tree_selection_model_select_paths Anyone else seeing this? TTFN Paul From stevef at netvantix.com Thu Jul 15 14:08:12 2004 From: stevef at netvantix.com (Steve Fink) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:08:12 -0600 Subject: Evolution 1.5.9.1 Message-ID: <1089900492.2850.6.camel@orion> I have been running Evolution 1.5.9.1 for a while now and I've been unable to test the Groupwise connector, our Groupwise server exists on a non-standard Groupwise port ( 1679 ) is there any way to change this in the configuration? Thanks in advance, Steve PS Everything else seems to work great, thanks again. From vectrox at home.nl Thu Jul 15 14:48:41 2004 From: vectrox at home.nl (Tim Raats) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:48:41 +0200 Subject: Gnome menu Message-ID: <1089902921.22626.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> I cant add items to the gnome menu. How do I add items manually ? -- ---------- Best regards, Tim Raats From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu Jul 15 15:12:40 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:12:40 -0400 Subject: VMware version 4.5.2 and FC2 to FC3T1 upgrade, after-effects - kernel panic In-Reply-To: <40F5E288.4040702@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F5E288.4040702@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1089904360.18421.172.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 21:48 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > I just upgraded an installation of FC2 to FC3T1 and the installation > process took about 2 hours to complete. This was not really a problem, > just something noticed. My upgrade of a VMware 4.5.2 FC2+some-rawhide-packages VM (yeah, I know - want to test upgrades from a release, but this is the one I had hanging around) would have taken about the same time if I had been on the ball changing the pointers to the ISO images. The thing I noticed about the upgrade was that on an 8GB virtual disk with in excess of 1GB free the upgrade refused to run saying I needed something over 100MB more free space. Created another virtual disk and migrated /usr/src and /home to new partitions to make more room. Watched the space on VC 2 during the upgrade and it never exceeded 87% of the capacity. > The problem is that the kernel that I was running on FC2 seemed to be > working alright. After the upgrade and rebooting the machine, a kernel > panic was encountered. Kernel 2.6.6-1.406 was working with FC2, and no problems on the upgrade. Rebooted fine for me. Possible difference is that I'm running a FC2 host with vmware-any-any-update73 from http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/ (I see 75 is there now). Couldn't tell from your screenshot what host OS you're using (Windows? Different window manager? Doesn't look quite like mine on FC2/KDE.), but could make a difference. Playing with FC3T1 now. Phil From doug at dmaurer.net Thu Jul 15 14:25:35 2004 From: doug at dmaurer.net (Doug Maurer) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:25:35 +0000 Subject: up2date Message-ID: <1089901535.17696.1.camel@dougs-laptop> Trying to run up2date after installing OS, but getting an error, this is the first file listed. Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... ######################################## Glide3-20010520-33.i386.rpm ########################## Done. The package Glide3-20010520-33 is signed, but with an uknown GPG key. Aborting... Package Glide3-20010520-33 has a unknown GPG signature. Aborting... From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu Jul 15 15:46:31 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:46:31 -0400 Subject: Undefined symbol in the current Evolution In-Reply-To: <20040715144743.6860fab6.paul@all-the-johnsons.co.uk> References: <20040715144743.6860fab6.paul@all-the-johnsons.co.uk> Message-ID: <1089906391.11911.17.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 14:47 +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > I can't currently use the version of Evolution as it is giving an error which occurs when I click to open one of my mail folders > > evolution: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/evolution/1.5/components/libevolution-mail.so: undefined symbol: e_tree_selection_model_select_paths > > Anyone else seeing this? Which version of the evolution and libgal2 packages are you using? Works for me (evolution-1.5.90-5 and libgal2-2.1.11-2) From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu Jul 15 15:48:17 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:48:17 -0400 Subject: Evolution 1.5.9.1 In-Reply-To: <1089900492.2850.6.camel@orion> References: <1089900492.2850.6.camel@orion> Message-ID: <1089906497.11911.20.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 08:08 -0600, Steve Fink wrote: > I have been running Evolution 1.5.9.1 for a while now and I've been > unable to test the Groupwise connector, our Groupwise server exists on a > non-standard Groupwise port ( 1679 ) is there any way to change this in > the configuration? Off the top of my head, does it work if you suffix the hostname of the Groupwise server with a colon and the port number in the settings dialog? From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Jul 15 16:05:04 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:05:04 +0100 Subject: Undefined symbol in the current Evolution In-Reply-To: <1089906391.11911.17.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <20040715144743.6860fab6.paul@all-the-johnsons.co.uk> <1089906391.11911.17.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040715170504.0581fdfd.paul@all-the-johnsons.co.uk> Hi, > Which version of the evolution and libgal2 packages are you using? > > Works for me (evolution-1.5.90-5 and libgal2-2.1.11-2) That's the version I'm using. I can start the app, download the email but no users on this machine are able to access any of the mail folders without the libevolution-mail undefined symbol error. I'm slumming it on Sylpheed currently and it's no fun! TTFN Paul From gyang at njit.edu Thu Jul 15 16:16:00 2004 From: gyang at njit.edu (Guo Yang) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:16:00 -0400 Subject: C++ Problem Message-ID: <1089908160.4348.7.camel@dhcp91-24.njit.edu> Hello, I am learning C++ right now. I got a strange problem about fstream class. The program below I tried on a Fedora Core 3 test 1 platform always fails to open the 'test.cpp' file (which is the program file itself). But the same program works on Windows without any problem. So did I do something wrong or the implementation of the c++ library doesn't work? Thank you very much for help. #include #include using namespace std; int main () { fstream filestr("test.cpp", ios::in|ios::out|ios::app); if (filestr.is_open()) { cout << "File successfully open" << endl; filestr << "Help wanted!" << endl; filestr.close(); } else { cerr << "Error opening file" << endl; } return 0; } Guo From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Jul 15 16:31:26 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:31:26 +0100 Subject: Evolution is back Message-ID: <1089909086.1644.6.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Seems something was annoying Evolution in /usr/local somewhere. I've given /usr/local a clean out (boy, there was some rubbish in there) and suddenly, things work again! TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From gonzo at eng.lsu.edu Thu Jul 15 21:08:05 2004 From: gonzo at eng.lsu.edu (Steve Gonzales) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:08:05 -0500 Subject: FC3T1 Installation Problem In-Reply-To: <20040715160025.6810473B25@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040715160025.6810473B25@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1089925685.32417.11.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> Hi, folks. When I attempt an NFS installation of FC3T1, I get the following: "install exited abnormally -- received signal 11" just when anaconda is supposed to start. I looked it up in bugzilla (there are currently 6 closed and one new ticket - none have a solution). I have tried the nousb hint from bug#122070 to no avail. Any ideas? Thanks. Steve From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 15 22:19:22 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:19:22 -0400 Subject: stuck w/ a 640 x 480 resolution - Dell 828656 Graphics controller In-Reply-To: <1089895669.8791.29.camel@localhost> References: <40F66EF2.10304@sbcglobal.net> <1089895669.8791.29.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <40F702EA.1040501@sbcglobal.net> Mitch Anderson wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 05:48, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>1) Is there a way to get the resolution corrected to do better than 640 >>x 480, with this type of video card, using Fedora? > > > Yes, it has been a known problem with some Dell models. Seems its a > BIOS problem. Setting the Video RAM buffer to 8M instead of the default > 1M usually fixes it. However they "attempted" to fix the bios in an A03 > release which made the bios fix no longer work. You just have to force > 32MB - 48MB for its video ram in X.org's config. > I recall the A03 message on the BIOS screen. Thanks everyone for the advice/hints. As a sidenote: I tested another computer with an sis 690 (# may be wrong). This computer seemed to be able to show 800 x 600 through gnome-display-properties and system-config-display allows more selections, but gnome-display-properties seems to have the real control. > These two options have solved the problem for me, however here is some > more info about it: > > http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/855patch.html > > Thanks! >>2) Is the i810 driver correct for this card to use? > > > Yes it is > With video, I didn't want to wildcard my choices. Thanks! > > Mitch > > -- A day for firm decisions!!!!! Or is it? From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 15 22:31:10 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:31:10 -0400 Subject: VMware version 4.5.2 and FC2 to FC3T1 upgrade, after-effects - kernel panic In-Reply-To: <1089904360.18421.172.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <40F5E288.4040702@sbcglobal.net> <1089904360.18421.172.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <40F705AE.6010503@sbcglobal.net> Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 21:48 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>I just upgraded an installation of FC2 to FC3T1 and the installation >>process took about 2 hours to complete. This was not really a problem, >>just something noticed. > > > My upgrade of a VMware 4.5.2 FC2+some-rawhide-packages VM (yeah, I know > - want to test upgrades from a release, but this is the one I had > hanging around) would have taken about the same time if I had been on > the ball changing the pointers to the ISO images. The thing I noticed > about the upgrade was that on an 8GB virtual disk with in excess of 1GB > free the upgrade refused to run saying I needed something over 100MB > more free space. Created another virtual disk and migrated /usr/src > and /home to new partitions to make more room. Watched the space on VC > 2 during the upgrade and it never exceeded 87% of the capacity. > > >>The problem is that the kernel that I was running on FC2 seemed to be >>working alright. After the upgrade and rebooting the machine, a kernel >>panic was encountered. > > > Kernel 2.6.6-1.406 was working with FC2, and no problems on the upgrade. I'll try a version as above or the FC2 installation version. The one on FC3T1 installation disk for entering rescue mode and the kernel that is installed on the FC3T1 installation have a problem with this virtual machine. > Rebooted fine for me. Possible difference is that I'm running a FC2 > host with vmware-any-any-update73 from http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/ > (I see 75 is there now). Couldn't tell from your screenshot what host > OS you're using (Windows? Different window manager? Doesn't look quite > like mine on FC2/KDE.), but could make a difference. Playing with FC3T1 > now. The host is XP pro and if the video problem I'm having with this machine is corrected, I might try FC3T1 as host or FC2 as host. Jim > > Phil > > > > -- What's done to children, they will do to society. From tony at immunix.com Thu Jul 15 23:16:09 2004 From: tony at immunix.com (Tony Jones) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:16:09 -0700 Subject: Yum upgrade from FC2 to FC3 possible? Message-ID: <20040715231609.GA6227@immunix.com> Is it possible to upgrade (using yum or anything else) from FC2 (development) to FC3 (development)? Or do I need to start with the FC3 iso's. I installed the FC2T1 iso's (2/19/04) and ran yum a couple of times against the 1.90 development branch. This is where my machine is now. Then I context switched away. Trying to use the yum.conf that had worked before now causes yum to crash (of course I have no idea if it would do what i want [->FC3] anyway): # yum -c yum.conf update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders mi = cachedb.dbMatch() UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment Tony From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Jul 15 23:34:05 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:34:05 +0100 Subject: Yum upgrade from FC2 to FC3 possible? In-Reply-To: <20040715231609.GA6227@immunix.com> References: <20040715231609.GA6227@immunix.com> Message-ID: <1089934445.2768.26.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > Is it possible to upgrade (using yum or anything else) from FC2 (development) > to FC3 (development)? Or do I need to start with the FC3 iso's. Yes. My yum.conf file is below which uses one of the UK mirrors (mainly as I'm in the UK!). Update your yum.conf file to include these and run yum update. Be warned, there are lots to update! TTFN Paul [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=fedora-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 [evolution] name=Evolution Devel Snaps baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development tree baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch [base] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os [updates-released] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released updates baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch [updates-testing] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Updates testing baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From perbj at stanford.edu Thu Jul 15 23:48:12 2004 From: perbj at stanford.edu (Per Bjornsson) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:48:12 -0700 Subject: Broken pause/seek in rhythmbox with FC2 test update for gstreamer using alsasink Message-ID: <1089935291.2815.259.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I'm seeing some problems with the test update of gstreamer (0.8.3-2) & plugins (0.8.2-2) in FC2 test updates, namely, pausing and seeking essentially don't work in Rhythmbox using alsasink for output. (I updated since I was getting random sound dropouts in Rhythmbox before; this does seem to be fixed with the test update - yay!). What happens is basically that when I pause the playing and restart it, I get no sound for a long time, then after a few minutes the rest of the song plays. The progress indicator in Rhythmbox keeps moving during the silent period until it hits the song length; by the time it starts playing again it is typically pinned at the end of the song. I saw this posting on gstreamer-devel regarding seeking brokenness with alsasink: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=5124747&forum_id=5947 The symptoms seem a bit different, but still, I changed to esdsink and the problem was gone. Benjamin Otte (second poster in the thread) seems to think that a seeking problem might have been present in 0.8.2 alsasink but should be fixed in CVS; perhaps it would be worth updating alsasink to the CVS state to test? If others are seeing the same problems I am it's not particularly useful the way it is! Certainly the problem seems to be in alsasink since using esd for output seems to fix everything. Best regards, Per Bjornsson -- Per Bjornsson Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University From ernesto at ornl.gov Thu Jul 15 23:56:20 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:56:20 -0400 Subject: HP External DVD burner with Fedora3-Test1 (kernel-2.6.7-1.488) Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A10@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Hi I would like to burn the FC3T1 DVD but my /dev/cdrom1 no longer shows up. I am using an External (USB) HP dvd300e Here is the error I get: ================================================================================ [root at python DVD]# growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom1=FC3-test1-DVD.iso :-( "/dev/cdrom1=FC3-test1-DVD.iso": unexpected errno:No such file or directory [root at python DVD]# ================================================================================= By the way in earlier kernels things used to work, hmmm? What should I add? Since my external DVD writer no longer even shows up as you can see below: Only my internal CDROM writer shows up. ============================================================================================== [root at python DVD]# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a33-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J?rg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. scsidev: 'ATA' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (schily - Red Hat-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.83-RH '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c 1.83 04/05/20 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'SAMSUNG ' 'CDRW/DVD SN-324F' 'U203' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) * 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * [root at python DVD]# ============================================================================================================ From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Jul 16 00:10:06 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:10:06 -0400 Subject: HP External DVD burner with Fedora3-Test1 (kernel-2.6.7-1.488) Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A11@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Williams Jr, Ernest L. Sent: Thu 7/15/2004 7:56 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: HP External DVD burner with Fedora3-Test1 (kernel-2.6.7-1.488) Hi I would like to burn the FC3T1 DVD but my /dev/cdrom1 no longer shows up. I am using an External (USB) HP dvd300e Here is the error I get: ================================================================================ [root at python DVD]# growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom1=FC3-test1-DVD.iso :-( "/dev/cdrom1=FC3-test1-DVD.iso": unexpected errno:No such file or directory [root at python DVD]# ================================================================================= By the way in earlier kernels things used to work, hmmm? What should I add? Since my external DVD writer no longer even shows up as you can see below: Only my internal CDROM writer shows up. ============================================================================================== [root at python DVD]# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a33-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J?rg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. scsidev: 'ATA' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (schily - Red Hat-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.83-RH '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c 1.83 04/05/20 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'SAMSUNG ' 'CDRW/DVD SN-324F' 'U203' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) * 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * [root at python DVD]# ============================================================================================================ Ah Ha, looks like it is missing in the "2.6.7-1.488" kernel: ' ' ' /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.448/kernel/drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.ko /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.459/kernel/drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.ko /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.471/kernel/drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.ko /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.476/kernel/drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.ko /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.478/kernel/drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.ko /lib/modules/2.6.7-1.481/kernel/drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.ko Is there another way to get usb support? -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From tony at immunix.com Fri Jul 16 00:11:20 2004 From: tony at immunix.com (Tony Jones) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:11:20 -0700 Subject: Yum upgrade from FC2 to FC3 possible? In-Reply-To: <1089934445.2768.26.camel@T7.linux> References: <20040715231609.GA6227@immunix.com> <1089934445.2768.26.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <20040716001120.GB6530@immunix.com> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:34:05AM +0100, Paul wrote: I clearly don't understand yum :-) If I use your config file [as below], I get a 404 trying to download for the [base] section (regarcless of server), because my version is 1.90 not "1" Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - i386 - Base retrygrab() failed for: http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/1.90/i386/os/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try If I comment out everything but the [development] section from your config file I get the same crash as before: Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders mi = cachedb.dbMatch() UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment > Hi, > > > Is it possible to upgrade (using yum or anything else) from FC2 (development) > > to FC3 (development)? Or do I need to start with the FC3 iso's. > > Yes. My yum.conf file is below which uses one of the UK mirrors (mainly > as I'm in the UK!). Update your yum.conf file to include these and run > yum update. > > Be warned, there are lots to update! > > TTFN > > Paul > > [main] > cachedir=/var/cache/yum > debuglevel=2 > logfile=/var/log/yum.log > pkgpolicy=newest > distroverpkg=fedora-release > tolerant=1 > exactarch=1 > > [evolution] > name=Evolution Devel Snaps > baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > [development] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development tree > baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch > > [base] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base > baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os > > [updates-released] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released updates > baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch > > > [updates-testing] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Updates testing > baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Jul 16 02:14:52 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:14:52 -0400 Subject: What haapened to "uhci-hcd.ko" in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A12@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Hi, What happened to the uhci-hcd.ko module in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel? Thanks, Ernest From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Fri Jul 16 04:52:15 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:52:15 -0400 Subject: Anaconda doesn't install kernel-sourcecode Message-ID: <20040716045215.GA7724@wolves.durham.nc.us> I selected "Kernel Development" during a custom install and made sure all boxes were checked in details, but kernel-sourcecode is not installed. Have to specifically install it with yum or up2date. SHould I bugzilla this for FC3T1? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From katzj at redhat.com Fri Jul 16 05:12:28 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:12:28 -0400 Subject: Anaconda doesn't install kernel-sourcecode In-Reply-To: <20040716045215.GA7724@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040716045215.GA7724@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1089954748.2338.11.camel@bree.local.net> On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 00:52 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > I selected "Kernel Development" during a custom install and made sure > all boxes were checked in details, but kernel-sourcecode is not > installed. Have to specifically install it with yum or up2date. > > SHould I bugzilla this for FC3T1? Already been bugzilla'd and fixed (don't remember the bug# offhand, though) Jeremy From arjanv at redhat.com Fri Jul 16 06:13:27 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:13:27 +0200 Subject: What haapened to "uhci-hcd.ko" in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel In-Reply-To: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A12@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> References: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A12@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <1089958406.2805.5.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 04:14, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > Hi, > > > What happened to the uhci-hcd.ko module in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel? it got built into the kernel for a short test (to see if building it in fixes a class of problems with PS/2 mice) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In this particular case I have an USB HP DVD writer and it was working perfectly with uhci-hcd.ko -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From gonzo at eng.lsu.edu Fri Jul 16 12:46:21 2004 From: gonzo at eng.lsu.edu (Steve Gonzales) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:46:21 -0500 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 In-Reply-To: <20040716121602.3BC6173497@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040716121602.3BC6173497@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1089981981.32417.25.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> Answer for this instance: IPTABLES was not letting NFS through. HIH anyone who has the same problem. Steve > 5. FC3T1 Installation Problem (Steve Gonzales) > ------------------------------ > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:08:05 -0500 > From: Steve Gonzales > Subject: FC3T1 Installation Problem > To: Fedora Test List > Message-ID: <1089925685.32417.11.camel at engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hi, folks. > > When I attempt an NFS installation of FC3T1, I get the following: > "install exited abnormally -- received signal 11" > > just when anaconda is supposed to start. > > I looked it up in bugzilla (there are currently 6 closed and one new > ticket - none have a solution). > > I have tried the nousb hint from bug#122070 to no avail. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks. > Steve From stevef at netvantix.com Fri Jul 16 13:30:55 2004 From: stevef at netvantix.com (Steve Fink) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:30:55 -0600 Subject: Evolution 1.5.9.1 In-Reply-To: <1089906497.11911.20.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1089900492.2850.6.camel@orion> <1089906497.11911.20.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1089984656.2727.6.camel@orion> David, I had tried that previously but couldn't remember the reason it didn't work. I just tried it again and it causes Evolution to become unresponsive, after waiting about 3 minutes it comes back and says "Failed to Authenticate" upon re-entering the password another 3 minutes passed and then it said "The server terminated the connection". This problem arises because there are several Groupwise post offices on the same server, they're just on different ports. It's not anything that I've got the ability to change. The post offices are run by someone else. Any additional assistance would be greatly appreciated. Best, Steve On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 11:48 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 08:08 -0600, Steve Fink wrote: > > I have been running Evolution 1.5.9.1 for a while now and I've been > > unable to test the Groupwise connector, our Groupwise server exists on a > > non-standard Groupwise port ( 1679 ) is there any way to change this in > > the configuration? > > Off the top of my head, does it work if you suffix the hostname of the > Groupwise server with a colon and the port number in the settings > dialog? > > > > -- Steve Fink From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri Jul 16 13:58:34 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:58:34 -0400 Subject: Yum upgrade from FC2 to FC3 possible? In-Reply-To: <20040716001120.GB6530@immunix.com> References: <20040715231609.GA6227@immunix.com> <1089934445.2768.26.camel@T7.linux> <20040716001120.GB6530@immunix.com> Message-ID: <1089986314.18421.239.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 17:11 -0700, Tony Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:34:05AM +0100, Paul wrote: > > I clearly don't understand yum :-) > > If I use your config file [as below], I get a 404 trying to download for the > [base] section (regarcless of server), because my version is 1.90 not "1" It appears that you are running the ancient FC2T1 (1.90). You would have to replace "$releasever" with the desired number (2.90 for FC3T1) in Paul's yum.conf; however, to upgrade to development/rawhide/test- release I would not include anything but [development] in any case. ... > If I comment out everything but the [development] section from your > config file I get the same crash as before: > > Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? > yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main > clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers > cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) > File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders > mi = cachedb.dbMatch() > UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment Try "rm -rf /var/cache/yum/*" (or "mv /var/cache/yum /var/cache/ yum_old ; mkdir /var/cache/yum" if you are conservative) then try again with only the [development] stanza in yum.conf - will need to download all those FC3T1 headers anyway. Phil From prata at kuei-jin.org Fri Jul 16 15:03:54 2004 From: prata at kuei-jin.org (Alex White) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:03:54 -0500 Subject: What's Volume Like... Message-ID: <40F7EE5A.1000906@kuei-jin.org> on this particular list? I just signed up and haven't seen but maybe three or four messages pass by. Maybe this is just a quiet part of the day (for me anyhow). I'm currently preparing to download FC3-test1, since I want to help out with problems and the like. It could be of course I was expecting volume like on the "fedora-list" mailing list. I've got 50 waiting already lol Sincerely, Alex White From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri Jul 16 15:19:39 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:19:39 -0400 Subject: What's Volume Like... In-Reply-To: <40F7EE5A.1000906@kuei-jin.org> References: <40F7EE5A.1000906@kuei-jin.org> Message-ID: <1089991179.18421.268.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 10:03 -0500, Alex White wrote: > on this particular list? Variable, but likely to increase as FC3 testing goes along based on FC2 test experience. Very quite compared to fedora-list. > I just signed up ... Welcome to the bleeding edge. :-) Phil From prata at kuei-jin.org Fri Jul 16 15:37:06 2004 From: prata at kuei-jin.org (Alex White) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:37:06 -0500 Subject: What's Volume Like... In-Reply-To: <1089991179.18421.268.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <40F7EE5A.1000906@kuei-jin.org> <1089991179.18421.268.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <40F7F622.90808@kuei-jin.org> Phil Schaffner wrote: > Welcome to the bleeding edge. :-) > > Phil Thanks a bunch! ^_^ I wonder how long until I get started. This'll be fun I think. Alex White From walters at redhat.com Fri Jul 16 17:35:44 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 13:35:44 -0400 Subject: Broken pause/seek in rhythmbox with FC2 test update for gstreamer using alsasink In-Reply-To: <1089935291.2815.259.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1089935291.2815.259.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1089999344.4976.8.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 16:48 -0700, Per Bjornsson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm seeing some problems with the test update of gstreamer (0.8.3-2) & > plugins (0.8.2-2) in FC2 test updates, namely, pausing and seeking > essentially don't work in Rhythmbox using alsasink for output. (I > updated since I was getting random sound dropouts in Rhythmbox before; > this does seem to be fixed with the test update - yay!). Yeah, I get this too. I just backported some ALSA fixes into Rawhide, which do fix the problem for me. I'll roll new testing updates soon. 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This may be freely redistributed under the terms of the GNU Public License. usage: alternatives --install [--initscript ] [--slave ]* alternatives --remove alternatives --auto alternatives --config alternatives --display alternatives --set common options: --verbose --test --help --usage --version --altdir --admindir /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.66712: line 5: --slave: command not found [100%] 15:gcc-gnat ########################################### [100%] install-info: menu item `GNAT User's Guide (gnat_ugn_unw) for Native Platforms / Unix and Windows ' already exists, for file `(none)' -- Doug Maurer doug at dmaurer.net Linux user #299439 From gstool at earthlink.net Fri Jul 16 20:48:24 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:48:24 -0500 Subject: Startup, Shutdown error messages in fc3t1 Message-ID: <40F83F18.1070601@earthlink.net> Whenever I start fc3t1, it shows an error trying to access the time server clock.redhat.com. However, ntpd usually starts successfully. On shutdown, there is always an error associated with iptables. I don't know the exact nature of the message. Both messages are not on the screen long enough to read and copy down. Is this something that should be reported to bugzilla? Thanks. Gerry Tool From gstool at earthlink.net Fri Jul 16 21:03:56 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:03:56 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner Message-ID: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> The scanner situation seems to be worsening. After following a thread when installing FC2, I finally got my Epson Perfection 1240U scanner working. In fc3t1, the commands sane-find-scanner and scanimage -L executed either as user or root turn up no scanner. Can anyone else confirm this? Any hints on hot to get it to work? Thanks. Gerry Tool From rpjday at mindspring.com Fri Jul 16 21:09:35 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? Message-ID: i'm baffled by the fact that the first two CDs i've burned have both failed the media check test. first, yes, i've MD5SUMed my ISO images. all 4 are perfect. the machine with the CD burner is across the net, so i used FTP to copy the first couple images over, and burned them using nero under windows. that means there's two possibilities for corruption: 1) FTP, and 2) burning. i couldn't md5sum them on the windows box (no utility and it's not my box to dump stuff onto) so, as a test, i used FTP to copy the CD1 image *back*. md5sum perfect. so i'm going to assume the FTP transfer is fine. that leaves the burning process, which is what i guess i'll look at next. but is there any evidence that the mediacheck might be a bit scrambled? rday From gstool at earthlink.net Fri Jul 16 21:19:00 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:19:00 -0500 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40F84644.3000902@earthlink.net> Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i'm baffled by the fact that the first two CDs i've burned have both > failed the media check test. first, yes, i've MD5SUMed my ISO images. > all 4 are perfect. > > the machine with the CD burner is across the net, so i used FTP to > copy the first couple images over, and burned them using nero under > windows. that means there's two possibilities for corruption: > 1) FTP, and 2) burning. > > i couldn't md5sum them on the windows box (no utility and it's not > my box to dump stuff onto) so, as a test, i used FTP to copy the CD1 > image *back*. md5sum perfect. so i'm going to assume the FTP > transfer is fine. > > that leaves the burning process, which is what i guess i'll look at > next. but is there any evidence that the mediacheck might be a bit > scrambled? > > rday > > My cds burned with K3b in FC2 passed the fc3t1 media check. Gerry Tool From mfedyk at matchmail.com Fri Jul 16 21:36:47 2004 From: mfedyk at matchmail.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:36:47 -0700 Subject: What haapened to "uhci-hcd.ko" in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel In-Reply-To: <1089980067.8987.12.camel@matrix> References: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A12@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> <1089958406.2805.5.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1089980067.8987.12.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <40F84A6F.7070401@matchmail.com> Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: >On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 08:13 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > >>On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 04:14, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, >>> >>> >>>What happened to the uhci-hcd.ko module in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel? >>> >>> >>it got built into the kernel for a short test (to see if building it in >>fixes a class of problems with PS/2 mice) >> >> >Okay, >What module do I use now to support my external USB device? >In this particular case I have an USB HP DVD writer and it was working >perfectly with uhci-hcd.ko > "built-in" means it's in the kernel boot image, not a module, and anything that's built in will init at boot. So your system should work, the only differentce is that you don't have to load a module. From Fred.New at microlink.ee Fri Jul 16 22:33:42 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:33:42 +0300 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B534C@eemail1.microlink.lan> Saturday, July 7, 2004, at 12:19 AM Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i'm baffled by the fact that the first two CDs i've burned have both > failed the media check test. first, yes, i've MD5SUMed my ISO images. > all 4 are perfect. If burning the CDs isn't getting anywhere, you could try one of the other installation methods... I can confirm that the hard disk installation method works without any problems. I've been using this method since FC2t1. Once I got around to creating a special 3G partition just for the ISO images, the rest was easy. (But since I have already tested hard disk installation, I guess that it means that other testers should continue to try to burn CDs or DVDs. ;-) ) Additional details: For the FC2 installations, I burned CD 1 and used the askmethod boot parameter. For FC3t1 I decided to skip all CD burning, so I copied vmlinuz and initrd.img from http://../core/test/2.90/i386/os/isolinux to my /boot directory. After updating grub.conf to include an menu line for them, I just booted the installation kernel. Others used this method when they couldn't boot the CD during FC2 testing. It worked very well. But without a bootable CD, I would have had problems if the installation had failed after formatting / or /boot. Fred -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3314 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ernesto at ornl.gov Sat Jul 17 00:33:11 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:33:11 -0400 Subject: What haapened to "uhci-hcd.ko" in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A1C@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Mike Fedyk Sent: Fri 7/16/2004 5:36 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: What haapened to "uhci-hcd.ko" in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: >On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 08:13 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > >>On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 04:14, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, >>> >>> >>>What happened to the uhci-hcd.ko module in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel? >>> >>> >>it got built into the kernel for a short test (to see if building it in >>fixes a class of problems with PS/2 mice) >> >> >Okay, >What module do I use now to support my external USB device? >In this particular case I have an USB HP DVD writer and it was working >perfectly with uhci-hcd.ko > "built-in" means it's in the kernel boot image, not a module, and anything that's built in will init at boot. So your system should work, the only differentce is that you don't have to load a module. Cool. However, it only recognizes my USB mouse. How do I get my external USB DVD writer going again? Thanks -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ernesto at ornl.gov Sat Jul 17 01:21:37 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:21:37 -0400 Subject: What haapened to "uhci-hcd.ko" in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel In-Reply-To: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A1C@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> References: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A1C@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <1090027297.20858.2.camel@matrix> On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 20:33 -0400, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Mike Fedyk > Sent: Fri 7/16/2004 5:36 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: What haapened to "uhci-hcd.ko" in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel > > Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > >On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 08:13 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > >>On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 04:14, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Hi, > >>> > >>> > >>>What happened to the uhci-hcd.ko module in the 2.6.7-1.488 linux kernel? > >>> > >>> > >>it got built into the kernel for a short test (to see if building it in > >>fixes a class of problems with PS/2 mice) > >> > >> > >Okay, > >What module do I use now to support my external USB device? > >In this particular case I have an USB HP DVD writer and it was working > >perfectly with uhci-hcd.ko > > > "built-in" means it's in the kernel boot image, not a module, and > anything that's built in will init at boot. So your system should work, > the only differentce is that you don't have to load a module. > > Cool. > However, it only recognizes my USB mouse. > How do I get my external USB DVD writer going again? Never mind. I was doing the wrong thing. cdrecord does not apply for my external USB DVD writer. growisofs is the key. growisofs -Z /dev/scd0=xxx.iso Everything is great thanks for the re-calibration; I have been using cdrecord too long. > > > Thanks > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > -- *************************** Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group Oak Ridge National Labs Office: (865) 241-9071 CELL: (865) 591-0183 *************************** From gstool at earthlink.net Sat Jul 17 01:54:03 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:54:03 -0500 Subject: kernel 2.6.7-1.492 hangs on boot at "Mounting USB Filesystem" Message-ID: <40F886BB.4090807@earthlink.net> I installed todays rawhide updates, including kernel 2.6.7-1.492. My system now hangs during boot at "Mounting USB Filesystems." Reverting to 2.6.7-1.488 boots fine. I had this hang on my first install of FC3t1 also, but it never happened after I successfully booted once. This hang with the new kernel has been 100% of my 4 attempts. First attempt reverting to the previous kernel worked. Should I enter a bugzilla report for this? What other info is useful? Thanks. Gerry Tool From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 17 02:26:34 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:26:34 -0400 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> Gerry Tool wrote: > The scanner situation seems to be worsening. After following a thread > when installing FC2, I finally got my Epson Perfection 1240U scanner > working. > > In fc3t1, the commands sane-find-scanner and scanimage -L executed > either as user or root turn up no scanner. > > Can anyone else confirm this? Any hints on hot to get it to work? > > Thanks. > > Gerry Tool > > It works the same as for FC2 did for me. This is an upgraded system without SELinux active. Are there any avc errors reported in dmesg? This might be a fresh install bug or policy setup issue. Jim ------------- [jim at cornette-fc2 jim]$ sane-find-scanner ... found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=0x0505 [HP ScanJet 2100C], chip=LM9831) at libusb:001:006 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by ... [jim at cornette-fc2 jim]$ scanimage -L device `plustek:libusb:001:006' is a Hewlett-Packard Scanjet 2100c USB flatbed scanner From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 17 02:40:45 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:40:45 -0400 Subject: running up2date In-Reply-To: <1090002530.2305.3.camel@dougs-laptop> References: <1090002530.2305.3.camel@dougs-laptop> Message-ID: <40F891AD.6000906@sbcglobal.net> Doug Maurer wrote: > Ran up2date to install the 17 latest updates.. two of them are showing > extra stuff, so I'd thought I would post the results. > > Installing... > 1:libgcc ########################################### > [100%] > 2:libgcj ########################################### > [100%] > alternatives version 1.3.11 - Copyright (C) 2001 Red Hat, Inc. > This may be freely redistributed under the terms of the GNU Public > License. > > usage: alternatives --install > [--initscript ] > [--slave ]* > alternatives --remove > alternatives --auto > alternatives --config > alternatives --display > alternatives --set > > common options: --verbose --test --help --usage --version > --altdir --admindir > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.66712: line 5: --slave: command not found > [100%] > > 15:gcc-gnat ########################################### > [100%] > install-info: menu item `GNAT User's Guide (gnat_ugn_unw) for Native > Platforms / Unix and Windows > ' already exists, for file `(none)' > > I'm getting this output from the shell. This looks like the error that you are getting. I'm using the GUI though. Jim /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.create_pixmap is deprecated, use gtk.gdk.Pixmap instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/checklist.py:139: DeprecationWarning: integer argument expected, got float info = self.get_selection_info (event.x, event.y) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use gtk.main_iteration instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) alternatives version 1.3.11 - Copyright (C) 2001 Red Hat, Inc. This may be freely redistributed under the terms of the GNU Public License. usage: alternatives --install [--initscript ] [--slave ]* alternatives --remove alternatives --auto alternatives --config alternatives --display alternatives --set common options: --verbose --test --help --usage --version --altdir --admindir /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.17195: line 5: --slave: command not found From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 17 02:46:34 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:46:34 -0400 Subject: running up2date - libgcj-3.4.1-5 strange output In-Reply-To: <1090002530.2305.3.camel@dougs-laptop> References: <1090002530.2305.3.camel@dougs-laptop> Message-ID: <40F8930A.10004@sbcglobal.net> Doug Maurer wrote: > Ran up2date to install the 17 latest updates.. two of them are showing > extra stuff, so I'd thought I would post the results. > > Installing... > 1:libgcc ########################################### > [100%] > 2:libgcj ########################################### > [100%] > alternatives version 1.3.11 - Copyright (C) 2001 Red Hat, Inc. > This may be freely redistributed under the terms of the GNU Public > License. > > usage: alternatives --install > [--initscript ] > [--slave ]* > alternatives --remove > alternatives --auto > alternatives --config > alternatives --display > alternatives --set > > common options: --verbose --test --help --usage --version > --altdir --admindir > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.66712: line 5: --slave: command not found > [100%] > > 15:gcc-gnat ########################################### > [100%] > install-info: menu item `GNAT User's Guide (gnat_ugn_unw) for Native > Platforms / Unix and Windows > ' already exists, for file `(none)' > > I'm getting this output from the shell. This looks like the error that you are getting. I'm using the GUI though. Jim Just to add the listing of packages the did install with this round. kdelibs-3.2.3-5 kdelibs-devel-3.2.3-5 libgcj-3.4.1-5 --- probably the cause libgcj-devel-3.4.1-5 libraw1394-0.10.1-3 libstdc++-3.4.1-5 libstdc++-devel-3.4.1-5 From gstool at earthlink.net Sat Jul 17 02:53:44 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:53:44 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: > >> The scanner situation seems to be worsening. After following a >> thread when installing FC2, I finally got my Epson Perfection 1240U >> scanner working. >> >> In fc3t1, the commands sane-find-scanner and scanimage -L executed >> either as user or root turn up no scanner. >> >> Can anyone else confirm this? Any hints on hot to get it to work? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Gerry Tool >> >> > > It works the same as for FC2 did for me. This is an upgraded system > without SELinux active. > > Are there any avc errors reported in dmesg? > > This might be a fresh install bug or policy setup issue. > > Jim > > ------------- > > [jim at cornette-fc2 jim]$ sane-find-scanner > ... > found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=0x0505 [HP > ScanJet 2100C], chip=LM9831) at libusb:001:006 > # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be > supported by > ... > [jim at cornette-fc2 jim]$ scanimage -L > device `plustek:libusb:001:006' is a Hewlett-Packard Scanjet 2100c USB > flatbed scanner > > I boot with selinux=0; it is a fresh install. The output is shown below: [root at gstpc log]# sane-find-scanner # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure that # you have loaded a SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter. # No USB scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure that # you have loaded a driver for your USB host controller and have installed a # kernel scanner module. # Not checking for parallel port scanners. # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports # can't be detected by this program. [root at gstpc log]# scanimage -L No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). [root at gstpc log]# grep avc dmesg [root at gstpc log]# Gerry From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 17 03:14:04 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:14:04 -0400 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> Gerry Tool wrote: > > [root at gstpc log]# sane-find-scanner > > # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make > sure that > # you have loaded a SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter. > > # No USB scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure > that > # you have loaded a driver for your USB host controller and have > installed a > # kernel scanner module. > > # Not checking for parallel port scanners. > > # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports > # can't be detected by this program. > [root at gstpc log]# scanimage -L > > No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, > check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the > sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation > which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). > [root at gstpc log]# grep avc dmesg > [root at gstpc log]# > > Gerry > > I tried "dmesg |grep avc" and of course did not get errors. I did note this in dmesg when trying w/o grep filtering This is when I pulled the power off of my usb hub and then plugged it back in. If I remember correctly, didn't you have to do something special with a config file? The thread was: Re: Scanner does not work as user Jim usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 3 usb 1-2.3: USB disconnect, address 4 updfstab: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the actual device updfstab: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the actual device usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 5 hub 1-2:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-2:1.0: 4 ports detected usb 1-2.3: new full speed USB device using address 6 From jefrat at earthlink.net Sat Jul 17 03:14:03 2004 From: jefrat at earthlink.net (Jeff Ratliff) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:14:03 -0400 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040717031403.GA9229@earthlink.net> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 05:09:35PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i'm baffled by the fact that the first two CDs i've burned have both > failed the media check test. first, yes, i've MD5SUMed my ISO images. > all 4 are perfect. > I had a similar problem. All 4 .isos had correct MD5sums, but the second CD failed media check a couple times. I rechecked the iso, and reburned the CD and still had the same problem. This is with a new SONY DVD burner burning on Memorex blanks rated at 40X. The burner can do 24X, and the second try I burned at 20X. I went ahead and installed to see what happened and got no errors. I did a clean install on one machine, and and upgrade of FC1 on another and no errors. Either the CD is OK, or there's an error in one of the RPMs I didn't install (or possibly the media check is wacky). From ernesto at ornl.gov Sat Jul 17 03:29:26 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:29:26 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.7-1.492 hangs on boot at "Mounting USB Filesystem" Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A1D@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Gerry Tool Sent: Fri 7/16/2004 9:54 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: kernel 2.6.7-1.492 hangs on boot at "Mounting USB Filesystem" I installed todays rawhide updates, including kernel 2.6.7-1.492. My system now hangs during boot at "Mounting USB Filesystems." Reverting to 2.6.7-1.488 boots fine. The new kernel rendered my mouse and USB DVD writer useless. So, I also had to revert back to kernel "488" I had this hang on my first install of FC3t1 also, but it never happened after I successfully booted once. This hang with the new kernel has been 100% of my 4 attempts. First attempt reverting to the previous kernel worked. Should I enter a bugzilla report for this? What other info is useful? Thanks. Gerry Tool -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 17 03:34:32 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:34:32 -0400 Subject: balsa conflict. (evo and libgtkhtml3) Message-ID: <40F89E48.4080502@sbcglobal.net> Trying to Upgrade Evolution, Evolution-data-server and gtkhtml3. I get the below popup using up2date. Unresolvable chain of dependencies: balsa 2.2.0-1,FC3,2 requires libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 Please modify your package selections and try again. -- Jim PS: Though still working with a 640 x 480 display. I recieved no errors on a clean install on the Dell at work. This installation is FC2 clean to FC3T1. Noted as from the advice on this list and the fedora-list. The video settings in BIOS were set to 128 megs and the range of settings varied from 32 megs to 512 megs. There was also a video setting for legacy support. This was set to 1 meg and I changed it to, I believe, 8 megs. This did not change things for the better. gnome-display-properties stayed at 640 x 480 and system-config-display still allowed higher settings. From ernesto at ornl.gov Sat Jul 17 03:35:49 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:35:49 -0400 Subject: Failed DVD install of FC3T1 Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A1E@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Hi, I finally created a DVD for FC3T1 from the four CDROM ISOs. The md5sum checked out. Also the media check worked fine. However, the installatiion hangs on trying to install the following package: "fontconfig-2.2.1-11" Reports: ===================================================================================== The package fontconfig-2.2.1-11 could not be opened. This is due to a missing file or perhaps a corrupt package. ===================================================================================== Did anyone else get this? Also, can we make Anaconda have a skip package option? Thanks, Ernesto From gstool at earthlink.net Sat Jul 17 03:38:25 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:38:25 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: > >> >> [root at gstpc log]# sane-find-scanner >> >> # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make >> sure that >> # you have loaded a SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter. >> >> # No USB scanners found. If you expected something different, make >> sure that >> # you have loaded a driver for your USB host controller and have >> installed a >> # kernel scanner module. >> >> # Not checking for parallel port scanners. >> >> # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary >> ports >> # can't be detected by this program. >> [root at gstpc log]# scanimage -L >> >> No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, >> check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the >> sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation >> which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). >> [root at gstpc log]# grep avc dmesg >> [root at gstpc log]# >> >> Gerry >> >> > > > I tried "dmesg |grep avc" and of course did not get errors. > > I did note this in dmesg when trying w/o grep filtering > This is when I pulled the power off of my usb hub and then plugged it > back in. > If I remember correctly, didn't you have to do something special with > a config file? The thread was: > Re: Scanner does not work as user > > > Jim > > > usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 3 > usb 1-2.3: USB disconnect, address 4 > updfstab: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the > actual device > updfstab: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the > actual device > usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 5 > hub 1-2:1.0: USB hub found > hub 1-2:1.0: 4 ports detected > usb 1-2.3: new full speed USB device using address 6 > > I did a little more testing and find that I have a lot of USB problems in fc3t1. I cannot boot with either kernel 478 or 492; they both stop at the line "Mounting USB File System". I can boot fine with kernel 488. Even then, as noted above, my USB scanner is missing, and my USB key storage device which works perfectly in FC2 and FC1 is also missing. A USB mouse works fine. There is no difference in operation if I have this mouse plugged in or not. Unfortunately, I can't unplug/replug my USB channels - they are built into the CPU box. Below are the lines in /var/log/messages from my last boot using [root at gstpc log]# grep usb messages Jul 16 22:14:02 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbfs Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hub Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hiddev Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbhid Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using address 3 Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 1-3: device not accepting address 3, error -71 Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 3-2: new low speed USB device using address 2 Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Wireless Mouse Wireless Mouse] on usb-0000:00:0e.1-2 Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Generic Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 Gerry From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 17 04:04:27 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 00:04:27 -0400 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> Gerry Tool wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Gerry Tool wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> I tried "dmesg |grep avc" and of course did not get errors. >> >> I did note this in dmesg when trying w/o grep filtering >> This is when I pulled the power off of my usb hub and then plugged it >> back in. >> If I remember correctly, didn't you have to do something special with >> a config file? The thread was: >> Re: Scanner does not work as user >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 3 >> usb 1-2.3: USB disconnect, address 4 >> updfstab: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the >> actual device >> updfstab: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the >> actual device >> usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 5 >> hub 1-2:1.0: USB hub found >> hub 1-2:1.0: 4 ports detected >> usb 1-2.3: new full speed USB device using address 6 >> >> > I did a little more testing and find that I have a lot of USB problems > in fc3t1. > > I cannot boot with either kernel 478 or 492; they both stop at the line > "Mounting USB File System". I can boot fine with kernel 488. Even > then, as noted above, my USB scanner is missing, and my USB key storage > device which works perfectly in FC2 and FC1 is also missing. A USB > mouse works fine. There is no difference in operation if I have this > mouse plugged in or not. > > Unfortunately, I can't unplug/replug my USB channels - they are built > into the CPU box. > > Below are the lines in /var/log/messages from my last boot using > > [root at gstpc log]# grep usb messages > > Jul 16 22:14:02 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB > Serial Driver core v2.0 > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbfs > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hub > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hiddev > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbhid > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID > core driver > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using > address 3 > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 1-3: device not accepting address 3, > error -71 This does not look like a good thing. I don't know what error -71 is, nor any other USB error code. Do you have a card reader, camera or similar device located here? > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using > address 2 > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 3-2: new low speed USB device using > address 2 > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Wireless Mouse > Wireless Mouse] on usb-0000:00:0e.1-2 > Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using > address 2 This looks like the scanner. Mine is address 6 above. I'm not sure why you have 4-1: and mine states 1-2.3 > Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB > Serial support registered for Generic > Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver > usbserial_generic > Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial > Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB > Serial Driver core v2.0 > > Gerry > > As with regard to the kernel. I'm using 2.6.7-1.478 version. I've been running bittorrent and have been leaving the machine on. I believe two new kernels already filtered through 488 and 492. 00:03:00 up 2 days, 6:43, 5 users, load average: 0.17, 0.24, 0.28 Jim From gstool at earthlink.net Sat Jul 17 14:27:18 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 09:27:18 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40F93746.2080806@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: > >> Jim Cornette wrote: >> >>> Gerry Tool wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> I tried "dmesg |grep avc" and of course did not get errors. >>> >>> I did note this in dmesg when trying w/o grep filtering >>> This is when I pulled the power off of my usb hub and then plugged >>> it back in. >>> If I remember correctly, didn't you have to do something special >>> with a config file? The thread was: >>> Re: Scanner does not work as user >>> >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 3 >>> usb 1-2.3: USB disconnect, address 4 >>> updfstab: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the >>> actual device >>> updfstab: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the >>> actual device >>> usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 5 >>> hub 1-2:1.0: USB hub found >>> hub 1-2:1.0: 4 ports detected >>> usb 1-2.3: new full speed USB device using address 6 >>> >>> >> I did a little more testing and find that I have a lot of USB >> problems in fc3t1. >> >> I cannot boot with either kernel 478 or 492; they both stop at the line >> "Mounting USB File System". I can boot fine with kernel 488. Even >> then, as noted above, my USB scanner is missing, and my USB key >> storage device which works perfectly in FC2 and FC1 is also missing. >> A USB mouse works fine. There is no difference in operation if I >> have this mouse plugged in or not. >> >> Unfortunately, I can't unplug/replug my USB channels - they are built >> into the CPU box. >> >> Below are the lines in /var/log/messages from my last boot using >> >> [root at gstpc log]# grep usb messages >> >> Jul 16 22:14:02 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB >> Serial Driver core v2.0 >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbfs >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hub >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hiddev >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbhid >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB >> HID core driver >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 1-3: new high speed USB device >> using address 3 >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 1-3: device not accepting address >> 3, error -71 > > > This does not look like a good thing. I don't know what error -71 is, > nor any other USB error code. Do you have a card reader, camera or > similar device located here? I think this was my smartmedia reader slot which did not have a card inserted. See new outputs below without this error. > >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device >> using address 2 >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 3-2: new low speed USB device using >> address 2 >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Wireless >> Mouse Wireless Mouse] on usb-0000:00:0e.1-2 >> Jul 16 22:23:09 gstpc kernel: usb 4-1: new full speed USB device >> using address 2 > > > This looks like the scanner. Mine is address 6 above. I'm not sure why > you have 4-1: and mine states 1-2.3 > > >> Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB >> Serial support registered for Generic >> Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver >> usbserial_generic >> Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial >> Jul 16 22:23:12 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB >> Serial Driver core v2.0 >> >> Gerry >> >> > > As with regard to the kernel. I'm using 2.6.7-1.478 version. I've been > running bittorrent and have been leaving the machine on. I believe two > new kernels already filtered through 488 and 492. > > 00:03:00 up 2 days, 6:43, 5 users, load average: 0.17, 0.24, 0.28 > > Jim > > New data from FC2 and FC3T1 USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC2 kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 Jul 17 08:46:29 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbfs Jul 17 08:46:29 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hub Jul 17 08:46:29 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hiddev Jul 17 08:46:29 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbhid Jul 17 08:46:29 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver Jul 17 08:46:30 gstpc kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 Jul 17 08:46:30 gstpc kernel: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 Jul 17 08:46:30 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage Jul 17 08:46:30 gstpc kernel: usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using address 2 Jul 17 08:46:30 gstpc kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2 Jul 17 08:46:30 gstpc kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 ========= I believe 3-1 is the scanner since I have to chmod /proc/bus/usb/003/002 in FC2 to get the scanner to work. In addition to the scanner, my smartmedia card and my USB key show up in Hardware Browser ========= USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC3T1 kernel 2.6.7-1.488 Jul 17 09:04:10 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbfs Jul 17 09:04:10 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hub Jul 17 09:04:10 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver hiddev Jul 17 09:04:10 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbhid Jul 17 09:04:10 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver Jul 17 09:04:10 gstpc kernel: usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using address 3 Jul 17 09:04:10 gstpc kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 Jul 17 09:04:10 gstpc kernel: usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 Jul 17 09:04:10 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage Jul 17 09:04:13 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Generic Jul 17 09:04:13 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic Jul 17 09:04:13 gstpc kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial Jul 17 09:04:13 gstpc kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 ========= The numbers are different here than in FC2. The scanner is not to be found by root with sane-find-scanner, but the smartmedia card and USB key do show up in hardware browser. Gerry From gstool at earthlink.net Sat Jul 17 14:49:23 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 09:49:23 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40F93C73.7030402@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: >>> If I remember correctly, didn't you have to do something special >>> with a config file? The thread was: >>> Re: Scanner does not work as user >>> >>> >>> Jim >> My FC2 and FC3T1 /etc/sane.d/epson.conf files contain the same statements. Gerry From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 17 15:13:16 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:13:16 -0400 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F93746.2080806@earthlink.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> <40F93746.2080806@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40F9420C.60908@sbcglobal.net> Gerry Tool wrote: > New data from FC2 and FC3T1 > > USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC2 > > kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 > > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 > usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 > usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage > usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using address 2 > usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2 > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 > ========= > I believe 3-1 is the scanner since I have to chmod /proc/bus/usb/003/002 > in FC2 to get the scanner to work. > In addition to the scanner, my smartmedia card and my USB key show up in > Hardware Browser > ========= > > USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC3T1 > > kernel 2.6.7-1.488 > > usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using address 3 > usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 > usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 > usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage > drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Generic > usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic > usbcore: registered new driver usbserial > drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 > ========= > The numbers are different here than in FC2. The scanner is not to be > found by root with sane-find-scanner, but the smartmedia card and USB > key do show up in hardware browser. > > Gerry > > It looks to me that the 3 and 2 from FC2 are correct. What confuses this novice is the absence of a 3 in FC3T1 and having the usbserial driver added for your system. (no serial USB before) - My guess is that with the comparison between FC2 and FC3 test, you have a real bug on your hands. I trimmed out the date information in hopes of this making more sense to me. I also ran the hardware browser and my scanner was recognized under system devices. This is without plugging and unplugging the USB port to the scanner. If it is not in the HW browser, it is a bug. :-) Also, I shutdown my system yesterday (Thunderstorm) and am using the 2.6.7-1.492 kernel on powering on today. X was *very* slow coming up. Jim From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 17 15:31:30 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 08:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: rawhide kernel and advansys module Message-ID: <20040717153130.12265.qmail@web11402.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- i downloaded the kernel package 2.6.7-1.478 from rawhide a couple of days ago (sorry about the delay in posting) and i received the following message: [root at markf78 root]# rpm -ivh kernel* /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: No such file or directory Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:kernel ########################################### [100%] No module advansys found for kernel 2.6.7-1.478, aborting. mkinitrd failed i haven't been able to successfully install any kernel from rawhide since kernel-2.6.6-1.435.2.3. is this module no longer supported in rawhide kernels or is this module simply no longer supported at all? i hope the latter is not true (my only hard disk uses the AdvanSys SCSI adapter... any ideas how to rectify this situation??? please forgive my ignorance on kernel modules.... thanks everyone, mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 17 15:50:26 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:50:26 -0400 Subject: X very slow w/ 2.6.7-1.492 kernel Message-ID: <40F94AC2.4020700@sbcglobal.net> One time testing of X when starting in runlevel 3. Is X poking along for others on startup? I believe it was me starting bittorrent before X. The bug filed is below. Any other people seeing this? Jim https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128090 -- Govern a great nation as you would cook a small fish. Don't overdo it. -- Lao Tsu From jreiser at BitWagon.com Sat Jul 17 16:45:04 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 09:45:04 -0700 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40F95790.4040703@BitWagon.com> > that leaves the burning process, which is what i guess i'll look at > next. but is there any evidence that the mediacheck might be a bit > scrambled? Some CD-ROM kernel software drivers, and some CD-ROM hardware drives, (and/or some combinations of those two) have [had] trouble recognizing "end of recorded data" especially when [trying to] read multiple sectors at a time. If the reason that mediacheck fails is "block I/O error", and if the sector number corresponds to beyond the known length of the .iso (or is within 30KB), then it may be that the data is OK and the reported failure is due to complications involving end-of-data. This is part of the reason for the "-pad" parameter to mkisofs and to cdrecord. -pad adds 15 sectors (30KB) of zeroes at the end, to try to keep the drive and driver from reporting an error at the end. During mediacheck, use to see other [text] screens with driver diagnostics, including error codes and block numbers. The block numbers can be confusing because the implied block size is not consistent: 2KB physical on the CD-ROM, not necessarily that large in the diganostic message. Anyway, try 512 bytes/block if necessary to make sense of the message. -- From jdennis at redhat.com Sat Jul 17 17:00:11 2004 From: jdennis at redhat.com (John Dennis) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:00:11 -0400 Subject: balsa conflict. (evo and libgtkhtml3) In-Reply-To: <40F89E48.4080502@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: > Trying to Upgrade Evolution, Evolution-data-server and gtkhtml3. I get > the below popup using up2date. > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > balsa 2.2.0-1,FC3,2 requires libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 balsa had linked against libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 and evolution against libgtkhtml-3.1.so.11. This is because balsa was built into fc3-HEAD which has release 10 of gtkhtml and fc3 has release 11. balsa was built in fc3-HEAD. It appears builds in fc3-HEAD are exported to rawhide and thus rawhide has an inconsistent package set, some from fc3 and some from fc3-HEAD. I don't know how to resolve this build and export inconsistency that appears to have occurred (it appears the buildroots between fc3 and fc3-HEAD are different but fc3-HEAD builds are still being exported to rawhide and fc3 is locked). In the near term I think you have two possible work arounds. remove balsa since it does not appear you're using it (rpm -e balsa) this will remove the dependency on release 10 the library. or do an install rather than an upgrade which should allow both releases the libgtkhtml library to simultaneosuly coexist thus satisfying both dependencies. John From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Jul 17 17:17:20 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:17:20 -0400 Subject: rawhide kernel and advansys module In-Reply-To: <20040717153130.12265.qmail@web11402.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040717153130.12265.qmail@web11402.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200407171317.20469.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 17 July 2004 11:31, Mark Fonnemann wrote: >Hello- > >i downloaded the kernel package 2.6.7-1.478 from rawhide a couple of > days ago (sorry about the delay in posting) and i received the > following message: > >[root at markf78 root]# rpm -ivh kernel* >/etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: No such file or > directory Preparing... > ########################################### [100%] 1:kernel > ########################################### [100%] No > module advansys found for kernel 2.6.7-1.478, aborting. >mkinitrd failed > >i haven't been able to successfully install any kernel from rawhide > since kernel-2.6.6-1.435.2.3. is this module no longer supported in > rawhide kernels or is this module simply no longer supported at > all? i hope the latter is not true (my only hard disk uses the > AdvanSys SCSI adapter... any ideas how to rectify this situation??? > please forgive my ignorance on kernel modules.... > >thanks everyone, >mark. :-) The kernel folks have marked that driver broken, and there is no longer a maintainer of record, the company having been sold at bankruptcy sales so many times the trail is now cold. The card is a good one, I have one myself, but now you have to uncheck the broken drivers line in the first window of a make xconfig a line that says: [ ] select only drivers expected to compile cleanly Once that is unchecked, you will (at least up to 2.6.8-rc1-mm1) be able to see and select the advansys driver under the scsi device section. It throws 2, so far non-fatal, warnings during the compile, and works just fine with my tape drive. I don't have any scsi disks left, their much vaunted dependability wasn't & mine have all turned up their toes or are so small (1Gb Seagate Hawks) they're now on my coco3 system. -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From maxer1 at xmission.com Sat Jul 17 19:21:00 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:21:00 -0600 Subject: FC3 t1 - iso #2 fails mediacheck Message-ID: <000001c46c33$32055a40$0200000a@frank> I heard that doing mediacheck on FC3 t1 iso #2 never completes write although the MD5SUM is right. I experimented with this and have burned three CD's for ISO #2 of FC3 T1 and I can verify that. The other iso's check out. Anyone else seen this? RaXeT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ehoover at mines.edu Sat Jul 17 21:53:05 2004 From: ehoover at mines.edu (ehoover at mines.edu) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:53:05 -0600 Subject: FC3T1 + x86-64 + WINE = SUCCESS! Message-ID: <1090101185.40f99fc1cf743@webmail.mines.edu> In case anyone else is thinking about trying WINE on x86-64 with FC3T1 I would like to report success and give the directions that provided success. You can visit the wine-devel message here: http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/2003/12/0056.html Essential you must install a small patch and change some compiler options and then it works like a charm - I'm installing Diablo II right now! From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 18 00:41:19 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:41:19 -0400 Subject: balsa conflict. (evo and libgtkhtml3) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40F9C72F.4000804@sbcglobal.net> John Dennis wrote: >>Trying to Upgrade Evolution, Evolution-data-server and gtkhtml3. I get >>the below popup using up2date. >> >>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>balsa 2.2.0-1,FC3,2 requires libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 > > > balsa had linked against libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 and evolution against > libgtkhtml-3.1.so.11. > > This is because balsa was built into fc3-HEAD which has release 10 of gtkhtml > and fc3 has release 11. balsa was built in fc3-HEAD. It appears builds in > fc3-HEAD are exported to rawhide and thus rawhide has an inconsistent package > set, some from fc3 and some from fc3-HEAD. I don't know how to resolve this > build and export inconsistency that appears to have occurred (it appears the > buildroots between fc3 and fc3-HEAD are different but fc3-HEAD builds are still > being exported to rawhide and fc3 is locked). > > In the near term I think you have two possible work arounds. > > remove balsa since it does not appear you're using it (rpm -e balsa) this will > remove the dependency on release 10 the library. > > or > > do an install rather than an upgrade which should allow both releases the > libgtkhtml library to simultaneosuly coexist thus satisfying both dependencies. > > > John > > > As long as this is planned for resolution for the next test release, I see no problem on my end. This conflict and some discussions on the devel list made me curious about balsa. I use neither evo or balsa for email. I'll probably check out balsa since it looks like a fairly decent GUI email program. Thanks for the explanation. (mozilla user regularly) Jim -- Thus spake the master programmer: "You can demonstrate a program for a corporate executive, but you can't make him computer literate." -- Geoffrey James, "The Tao of Programming" From jefrat at earthlink.net Sun Jul 18 01:53:29 2004 From: jefrat at earthlink.net (Jeff Ratliff) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:53:29 -0400 Subject: FC3 t1 - iso #2 fails mediacheck In-Reply-To: <000001c46c33$32055a40$0200000a@frank> References: <000001c46c33$32055a40$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <20040718015329.GC2288@earthlink.net> On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 01:21:00PM -0600, raxet wrote: > I heard that doing mediacheck on FC3 t1 iso #2 never completes write > although the MD5SUM is right. I experimented with this and have burned three > CD's > for ISO #2 of FC3 T1 and I can verify that. The other iso's check out. > > Anyone else seen this? > Check the thread "RE: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images?". This is being discussed. My reply in that thread was that I had a similar problem with disc 2, but I had no problem installing. From talbotscott at cox.net Sun Jul 18 03:23:28 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:23:28 -0700 Subject: FC3 t1 - iso #2 fails mediacheck In-Reply-To: <20040718015329.GC2288@earthlink.net> References: <000001c46c33$32055a40$0200000a@frank> <20040718015329.GC2288@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1090121009.17378.5.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 21:53 -0400, Jeff Ratliff wrote: > On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 01:21:00PM -0600, raxet wrote: > > I heard that doing mediacheck on FC3 t1 iso #2 never completes write > > although the MD5SUM is right. I experimented with this and have burned three > > CD's > > for ISO #2 of FC3 T1 and I can verify that. The other iso's check out. > > > > Anyone else seen this? > > > > Check the thread "RE: anyone else having mediacheck problems with > FC3t1 images?". This is being discussed. My reply in that thread > was that I had a similar problem with disc 2, but I had no problem > installing. All 4 disks failed media check, though I could find no errors by random test of files. Tried install, worked flawlessly! Installed full work station + many extras. Gotta go find out why there are 100+ files needing update already! Scott From gstool at earthlink.net Sun Jul 18 04:03:17 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:03:17 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F9420C.60908@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> <40F93746.2080806@earthlink.net> <40F9420C.60908@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40F9F685.8020901@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: > >> New data from FC2 and FC3T1 >> >> USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC2 >> >> kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 >> >> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >> usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage >> usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using address 2 >> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2 >> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 >> ========= >> I believe 3-1 is the scanner since I have to chmod >> /proc/bus/usb/003/002 in FC2 to get the scanner to work. >> In addition to the scanner, my smartmedia card and my USB key show up >> in Hardware Browser >> ========= >> >> USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC3T1 >> >> kernel 2.6.7-1.488 >> >> usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using address 3 >> usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >> usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage >> drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for >> Generic >> usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic >> usbcore: registered new driver usbserial >> drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 >> ========= >> The numbers are different here than in FC2. The scanner is not to be >> found by root with sane-find-scanner, but the smartmedia card and USB >> key do show up in hardware browser. >> >> Gerry >> >> > > It looks to me that the 3 and 2 from FC2 are correct. What confuses > this novice is the absence of a 3 in FC3T1 and having the usbserial > driver added for your system. (no serial USB before) - My guess is > that with the comparison between FC2 and FC3 test, you have a real bug > on your hands. > > I trimmed out the date information in hopes of this making more sense > to me. > > I also ran the hardware browser and my scanner was recognized under > system devices. This is without plugging and unplugging the USB port > to the scanner. > > If it is not in the HW browser, it is a bug. :-) I filed a bug report #128108 about the scanner not showing up. Gerry From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 18 12:46:11 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:46:11 -0400 Subject: Dep resolver from Red Carpet pointed out gcc-gnat multiple versions Message-ID: <40FA7113.5090901@sbcglobal.net> Installing and running Red Carpet's dep resolver indicated that I hadproblems with gcc-gnat. Checking with rpm -q gcc-gnat showed the below. rpm -q gcc-gnat gcc-gnat-3.4.1-2 gcc-gnat-3.4.1-4 gcc-gnat-3.4.1-5 Anyway, this is RC from Harald's link. http://people.redhat.com/harald/RedCarpet-FC3/ Trying to run the dep resolver did not work. I removed the duplicated programs with RPM. This is a good reason to include a program that can resolve dep problems though. Thanks, Jim -- More are taken in by hope than by cunning. -- Vauvenargues From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun Jul 18 14:14:57 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:14:57 -0600 Subject: FC3 t1 - iso #2 fails mediacheck In-Reply-To: <20040718015329.GC2288@earthlink.net> References: <000001c46c33$32055a40$0200000a@frank> <20040718015329.GC2288@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40FA85E1.50507@xmission.com> Jeff Ratliff wrote: >On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 01:21:00PM -0600, raxet wrote: > > >>I heard that doing mediacheck on FC3 t1 iso #2 never completes write >>although the MD5SUM is right. I experimented with this and have burned three >>CD's >>for ISO #2 of FC3 T1 and I can verify that. The other iso's check out. >> >>Anyone else seen this? >> >> >> > >Check the thread "RE: anyone else having mediacheck problems with >FC3t1 images?". This is being discussed. My reply in that thread >was that I had a similar problem with disc 2, but I had no problem >installing. > > I had a similar problem with disc 2 iso only. Installed fine though. RaXeT From jreiser at BitWagon.com Sun Jul 18 15:56:14 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:56:14 -0700 Subject: usb modem fails in minicom; no tty for cdc_acm? Message-ID: <40FA9D9E.30802@BitWagon.com> Has anyone gotten a usb modem, or other usb tty device, to work under Fedora Core 3 test 1? The old /dev/input/ttyACM0 apparently is no longer the correct path. As with all other usb devices, the hotplug machinery and usbdevfs must be used. Please post an example of how to get /dev/modem symlinked to the right name [such as /proc/bus/usb/002/002], and how to chmod it for use by whoever is logged in at the console, and how to have this all work even when the modem is plugged in and turned on at boot [something like "persistent hotplug", without requiring that the modem be unplugged ard re-plugged at every boot.] Even after doing everything manually, minicom still does not work. All the tty ioctl() calls fail, and there is no actual communication with the modem. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127951 for details. -- From wrrhdev at riede.org Sun Jul 18 17:59:06 2004 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:59:06 +0000 Subject: ide_scsi module on FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040709164547.GB7379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (from alan@redhat.com on Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 12:45:47 -0400) References: <001101c464e9$d40017f0$1400a8c0@dima> <006f01c4652a$4bf66fd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <001801c46540$dc921510$7c4817ac@DIMA> <20040709164547.GB7379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1090173546l.20527l.1l@serve.riede.org> On 07/09/2004 12:45:47 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > > ide_scsi has been deprecated in the 2.6 kernel. Advise Tapeware support > > that unless they get their act together pretty quick, their software will > > become quickly obsolete, as everyone migrates to 2.6. > > Please don't spread misinformation. ide-scsi is an essential part of the 2.6 > kernel and beyond, and it is essential for IDE tape drivers and also > for CD multichangers > > Its essentially a Red Hat misjudgement that it isn't included but when > asked to put it back Arjan has pointed out that turning it back on for > everyone mid release might cause problems in some setups. So one would have thought that the beta for FC3 would be the right time to re-enable it, right? Wrong, appearently, it's not there :-( Sigh, Willem Riede. From gstool at earthlink.net Sun Jul 18 18:21:52 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:21:52 -0500 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? Message-ID: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing lists for testing have always been very lively, until this release. There seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community developers responding. Is that just my false impression? I'm concerned that this release and its successors will not receive enough criticism to fix bugs that should be caught before the final release of FC3. Gerry Tool From h.mayer at inode.at Sun Jul 18 18:54:03 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:54:03 +0200 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40FAC74B.4040901@inode.at> Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing lists > for testing have always been very lively, until this release. There > seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community developers > responding. Is that just my false impression? > > I'm concerned that this release and its successors will not receive > enough criticism to fix bugs that should be caught before the final > release of FC3. I wondered about the same, but I think I have 3 reasons: * FC3test1 is not on fedora.redhat.com main page * http://fedora.redhat.com/download/test.html still mentions FC2test2 * people are still busy enjoying FC2 (as I do 8-) Cheers, Hannes. From jefrat at earthlink.net Sun Jul 18 19:14:50 2004 From: jefrat at earthlink.net (Jeff Ratliff) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:14:50 -0400 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040718191450.GA19277@earthlink.net> On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:21:52PM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing lists > for testing have always been very lively, until this release. There > seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community developers > responding. Is that just my false impression? > > I'm concerned that this release and its successors will not receive > enough criticism to fix bugs that should be caught before the final > release of FC3. > Seems to be that way. I'd like to think that people are so busy testing they don't have time to post, or maybe there just aren't any bugs yet. I have a feeling that's not the case. This is the first time I've run a test release (at least for the purpose of testing it). Although I'm trying to go about it in a systematic way, and have installed on 2 boxes ( one a bare install, one an upgrade), I admit that I don't know what I'm doing. There is actually some pretty lively discussion on fedora-list right now about this. Some people complain that FC2 wasn't tested enough, but don't really seem willing to test FC3. I think people don't realize how important testing is, and are just waiting for other people to do the work so they can benefit. I also think a big part is people don't know what to do or how to go about it. With something like Debian, you have to run a test release just to get modern software, but with Fedora there's much less incentive. Here's what I suggest: 1) Promote testing. As part of the test release announcment, give something quick on how important testing is, and give a link to somewhere with more info. Put it on fedora.redhat.com. Advertise through every reasonable channel that testers are valuable and testing is needed. 2) Educate people on what to do so the testers we have are more effective. Either produce a document on how to do testing or point to something that already exists. Give a tutorial on bugzilla: how do you know what's a bug? How do you report it? What info do you need in order to give a good report? A significant amount of traffic on this list is "here's my problem, is this a bug? should I bugzilla this?" I'd love to be able to actually do some good, rather than just running this thing to see what it looks like. I'm not saying someone should just go make all this happen. I'd be willing to give input and help out. I'm sure others have better ideas, and maybe there's a simple solution. I think people just aren't used to really being able to get involved and make a deifference. People complain plenty after the fact, we need to motivate and teach them to complain in a way that does some good. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun Jul 18 19:21:33 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:21:33 +0100 Subject: OOo slow? Message-ID: <1090178493.10793.3.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I'm loading in a 1.1Mb file. It is mostly text, with three fonts in and one graphic. Is it normal to take upto 10 minutes for it to hit the screen properly or is there something I can do to speed it up? OOo 1.1.1-6 FC3t1 TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rpjday at mindspring.com Sun Jul 18 19:33:00 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC3 t1 - iso #2 fails mediacheck In-Reply-To: <40FA85E1.50507@xmission.com> References: <000001c46c33$32055a40$0200000a@frank> <20040718015329.GC2288@earthlink.net> <40FA85E1.50507@xmission.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, raxet wrote: > Jeff Ratliff wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 01:21:00PM -0600, raxet wrote: >> >>> I heard that doing mediacheck on FC3 t1 iso #2 never completes write >>> although the MD5SUM is right. I experimented with this and have burned >>> three >>> CD's >>> for ISO #2 of FC3 T1 and I can verify that. The other iso's check out. >>> Anyone else seen this? >> Check the thread "RE: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 >> images?". This is being discussed. My reply in that thread >> was that I had a similar problem with disc 2, but I had no problem >> installing. > I had a similar problem with disc 2 iso only. Installed fine though. ok, so ... what's the consensus? i've seen various posts on this, and different people are getting different weirdness. personally, my downloaded images pass md5 tests, but when i burn, CD 1 fails the media check and, even if i ignore that and try to install, i get a failure partway thru that CD 1. i've burned CD 1 three times already, and every burn fails the media test from a perfectly good image ISO. i'm stumped. rday From bruno at wolff.to Sun Jul 18 20:20:54 2004 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:20:54 -0500 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <20040718191450.GA19277@earthlink.net> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> <20040718191450.GA19277@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040718202054.GB5384@wolff.to> On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 15:14:50 -0400, Jeff Ratliff wrote: > > I think people don't realize how important testing is, and are just > waiting for other people to do the work so they can benefit. I also > think a big part is people don't know what to do or how to go > about it. With something like Debian, you have to run a test release > just to get modern software, but with Fedora there's much less > incentive. It seems there is plenty of testing to do in fc2. I am running fc2 with a couple of things from development (notably the kernel) and have been having problems with ppp filtering and tc filtering. I filed bug reports related to the ppp issues, but am not completely sure the issue with tc is a bug (partly because the documentation and error messages are so bad). From terraformers at gmx.net Sun Jul 18 21:06:48 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:06:48 +0200 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I'm testing the development tree constantly and reporting bugs to bugzilla. I know, it is important to test the testrelease snapshots, because of installation routines etc., but i only have one machine here, so it is updated daily :) cheers lars Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing lists > for testing have always been very lively, until this release. There > seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community developers > responding. Is that just my false impression? > > I'm concerned that this release and its successors will not receive > enough criticism to fix bugs that should be caught before the final > release of FC3. > > Gerry Tool > > From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sun Jul 18 21:06:16 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:06:16 -0400 Subject: cdrecord failure under FC3t1 with "floating point exception" Message-ID: <20040718210616.GA8498@wolves.durham.nc.us> Attempting to blank or burn a CD-RW with cdrecord on FC3T1 fails with a "Floating point exception" [root at tembo root]# cdrecord -v dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdc blank=fast Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a33-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J?rg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: 'ATAPI:/dev/hdc' devname: 'ATAPI:/dev/hdc' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Use of ATA is preferred over ATAPI. Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained. Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow. Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info : 'VERBATIM' Identifikation : '241040AL ' Revision : '58SA' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Current: 0x000A Profile: 0x000A (current) Profile: 0x0009 Profile: 0x0008 Profile: 0x0002 (current) Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1966272 = 1920 KB cdrecord: Input/output error. read buffer: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 16 01 00 status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s Floating point exception -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From usdanskys at rocketmail.com Sun Jul 18 21:34:48 2004 From: usdanskys at rocketmail.com (Steven Usdansky) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:34:48 -0500 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? Message-ID: <20040718163448.12363379@Microcline> Because everything works? I can't speak for anyone else, but I did a upgrade from FC2 via yum using a local repository, and nothing seems to have broken. I know this doesn't test the install process or selinux (I've got it turned off), but I have to say that I'm quite satisfied so far. 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I've tried loading both usb-serial and io_edgeport with debug=1, but I still see nothing interesting in /var/log/messages: Jul 18 17:12:28 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Generic Jul 18 17:12:28 fallguy kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic Jul 18 17:12:28 fallguy kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usbserial Jul 18 17:12:28 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 Jul 18 17:12:32 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Edgeport 1 port adapter Jul 18 17:12:32 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Edgeport 2 port adapter Jul 18 17:12:32 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Edgeport 4 port adapter Jul 18 17:12:32 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Edgeport 8 port adapter Jul 18 17:12:32 fallguy kernel: usbcore: registered new driver io_edgeport Jul 18 17:12:32 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/io_edgeport.c: Edgeport USB Serial Driver v2.3 Any suggestions? Thanks, Willem Riede. From wrrhdev at riede.org Mon Jul 19 00:03:10 2004 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 00:03:10 +0000 Subject: Edgeport USB serial with FC3 test kernel 492smp In-Reply-To: <1090188459l.20900l.1l@serve.riede.org> (from wrrhdev@riede.org on Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 18:07:39 -0400) References: <1090188459l.20900l.1l@serve.riede.org> Message-ID: <1090195390l.20900l.2l@serve.riede.org> On 07/18/2004 06:07:39 PM, Willem Riede wrote: > Is anyone using an Edgeport/4 with FC3-T1, kernel 2.6.7-1.492smp? Another exepriment - I booted without the edgeport connected, and the plugged it in once the machine was fully up - and got an oops: Jul 18 19:51:52 fallguy kernel: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 Jul 18 19:51:53 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Edgeport 1 port adapter Jul 18 19:51:53 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Edgeport 2 port adapter Jul 18 19:51:53 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Edgeport 4 port adapter Jul 18 19:51:53 fallguy kernel: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Edgeport 8 port adapter Jul 18 19:51:53 fallguy kernel: io_edgeport 4-2:1.0: Edgeport 4 port adapter converter detected Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: usb 4-2: Inside Out Network Edgeport/4 detected Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00a979cd Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: printing eip: Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: 00a979cd Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: *pde = 00004001 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: Oops: 0000 [#1] Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: SMP Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: Modules linked in: io_edgeport snd_mixer_oss snd soundcore parport_pc lp parport usbserial autofs4 e100 mii floppy sg sr_mod ohci1394 ieee1394 st dm_mod uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd ipv6 ext3 jbd aic7xxx sd_mod scsi_mod Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: CPU: 1 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy usb.agent[2557]: ... can't load module io_edgeport Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: EIP: 0060:[<00a979cd>] Not tainted Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy usb.agent[2557]: missing kernel or user mode driver io_edgeport Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: EFLAGS: 00010213 (2.6.7-1.492smp) Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: EIP is at 0xa979cd Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: eax: 1326fe50 ebx: 1a1a2004 ecx: ffffffff edx: 00000000 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: esi: 1326fe50 edi: 1a1a2490 ebp: 208b4ae4 esp: 1326fe50 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: Process modprobe (pid: 2588, threadinfo=1326f000 task=17fd2b90) Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: Stack: 2d303533 30303031 2d31302d 00000042 021229bd 02344660 02344660 00000013 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: 00000013 1a1a2004 22a97e5b 22a9994d 02303b1d 208b4c10 1a1a2004 22aa70c0 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: 2070cab8 00000000 207064f4 00000002 19c54358 229ec5fc 21de83e4 21dcca04 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: Call Trace: Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<021229bd>] printk+0x1e5/0x21b Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<22a97e5b>] edge_startup+0xd3/0x243 [io_edgeport] Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<229ec5fc>] usb_serial_probe+0x990/0xb8d [usbserial] Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<021745f9>] alloc_inode+0xf9/0x17c Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<02174f81>] new_inode+0x11/0xbb Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<02172f58>] d_instantiate+0xa3/0xa9 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<02171cf4>] dput+0x1b/0x289 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<02195a80>] create_dir+0x7e/0x96 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<02253ca3>] usb_probe_interface+0x31/0x39 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<0221500c>] bus_match+0x27/0x45 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<022150c6>] driver_attach+0x37/0x66 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<02215484>] bus_add_driver+0x78/0x99 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<02253d33>] usb_register+0x38/0x77 Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<2290904b>] edgeport_init+0x4b/0x92 [io_edgeport] Jul 18 19:51:54 fallguy kernel: [<02138286>] sys_init_module+0x15d/0x281 Jul 18 19:51:55 fallguy kernel: Code: Bad EIP value. Suggestions? Thanks, Willem Riede. From jlcthibo at uumail.gov.bc.ca Mon Jul 19 01:09:17 2004 From: jlcthibo at uumail.gov.bc.ca (Christian Thibodeau) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:09:17 -0700 Subject: FC3 t1 - iso #2 fails mediacheck In-Reply-To: References: <000001c46c33$32055a40$0200000a@frank> <20040718015329.GC2288@earthlink.net> <40FA85E1.50507@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1090199357.10716.4.camel@phoenix.osg.gov.bc.ca> On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 12:33, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, raxet wrote: > > > Jeff Ratliff wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 01:21:00PM -0600, raxet wrote: > >> > >>> I heard that doing mediacheck on FC3 t1 iso #2 never completes write > >>> although the MD5SUM is right. I experimented with this and have burned > >>> three > >>> CD's > >>> for ISO #2 of FC3 T1 and I can verify that. The other iso's check out. > >>> Anyone else seen this? > > >> Check the thread "RE: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 > >> images?". This is being discussed. My reply in that thread > >> was that I had a similar problem with disc 2, but I had no problem > >> installing. > > > I had a similar problem with disc 2 iso only. Installed fine though. > > ok, so ... what's the consensus? i've seen various posts on this, and > different people are getting different weirdness. personally, my > downloaded images pass md5 tests, but when i burn, CD 1 fails the > media check and, even if i ignore that and try to install, i get a > failure partway thru that CD 1. > > i've burned CD 1 three times already, and every burn fails the media > test from a perfectly good image ISO. i'm stumped. > The 4 ISOs I downloaded (from ftp.nrc.ca) all passed the MD5 test, and the CDs I burned all passed the media check. I also was able to update an FC2 box to FC3T1 with those CDs without problems. I used K3b on an up to date FC2 machine, writing to an HP CD-Writer Plus (8100 series). I have no idea why so many people are having trouble; I am just offering this information as another data point. -- Christian Thibodeau Open Systems, Hosting Common IT Services Solutions BC, Province of BC Phone: 250-387-5993 Fax: 250-387-5231 Solutions BC http://www.solutionsbcsharedservices.gov.bc.ca CITS https://cits.gov.bc.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mk at crc.dk Mon Jul 19 06:05:58 2004 From: mk at crc.dk (Mogens Kjaer) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 08:05:58 +0200 Subject: sshd cannot alloc pty under fc3t1 In-Reply-To: <20040714142929.GA19436@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040714142929.GA19436@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <40FB64C6.1000802@crc.dk> Gregory Woodbury wrote: ... > Anyone else seeing this? > Yes, same error here when ssh'ing from FC2 to FC3t1. Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: mk at crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk From mk at crc.dk Mon Jul 19 06:16:10 2004 From: mk at crc.dk (Mogens Kjaer) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 08:16:10 +0200 Subject: sshd cannot alloc pty under fc3t1 In-Reply-To: <40FB64C6.1000802@crc.dk> References: <20040714142929.GA19436@wolves.durham.nc.us> <40FB64C6.1000802@crc.dk> Message-ID: <40FB672A.3010900@crc.dk> Mogens Kjaer wrote: > Gregory Woodbury wrote: > ... > >> Anyone else seeing this? >> > > Yes, same error here when ssh'ing from FC2 to FC3t1. Hm, a umount /dev/pts mount /dev/pts seems to cure the problem... Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: mk at crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Mon Jul 19 07:01:18 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 04:01:18 -0300 Subject: Failed hard disk install Message-ID: <40FB71BE.6010002@margo.bijoux.nom.br> I'm trying to install FC3 test 1 here... First , all cds have the right md5. Burnt cd1 , placed the isos on /dev/hdc1 (fat32 partition that I always used in disk installs , except in fedora core 2 test 2 , when I had to use a dvd disk). After booting with linux askmethod selinux=0 xfs jfs hde=noprobe hdf=noprobe hdg=noprobe hdh=noprobe (to test both xfs and jfs and dont have to wait to sata probing), I got a failure message when I selected the right directory and device , saying that the iso files werent found. Switching to the other vts , there was this message: <4> VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev hdc1 <4> Unable to load NLS charset ascii <3> fat: IO charset ascii not found I decided to give another try and copied the isos to my home xfs partition (dont have any ext2/3 partitions here.. only xfs). Again , same options and same error... As I said before , the same fat partition has been used to install all the fedora stable and test releases since fedora core 1 on my computer , except for fedora core 2 test 2 , which asked me for a driver to use the harddisk , so I installed from a dvd... Also , I havent changed anything on this partition (it's where I keep all my iso files and a few other things that I dont change very often) Just added this to bugzilla , under bug number 128135 . -- Pedro Macedo From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Mon Jul 19 08:06:21 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:06:21 +0100 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1090224381.6886.27.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 13:21 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing lists > for testing have always been very lively, until this release. There > seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community developers > responding. Is that just my false impression? > > I'm concerned that this release and its successors will not receive > enough criticism to fix bugs that should be caught before the final > release of FC3. I can think of one reason. I have just tried to install (via http) using some UK/IE mirrors that I know of, and none of them are completely upto date it would appear. One of the problems with the previous testing releases was the mirrors being out of date and it being a challenge just to find the right mirror to use. I would have thought waiting almost a week after the full release would have resulted in me avoiding these problems but apparently not. -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Mon Jul 19 09:18:04 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:18:04 +0100 Subject: Printing problem - evolution/gnumeric Message-ID: <1090228684.11336.3.camel@datacc> In the last few days a wierd problem has arisen, if I print from evolution or gnumeric, I get junk eg: Instead of Failed hard disk install I get LOHG KDG GLVN LQVWDOO Anyone any ideas what could be wrong here? (all other apps print fine, including gedit) From harald at redhat.com Mon Jul 19 10:52:03 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:52:03 +0200 Subject: cdrecord failure under FC3t1 with "floating point exception" In-Reply-To: <20040718210616.GA8498@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040718210616.GA8498@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <40FBA7D3.4030307@redhat.com> Gregory Woodbury wrote: > Attempting to blank or burn a CD-RW with cdrecord on FC3T1 fails with a > "Floating point exception" > > > [root at tembo root]# cdrecord -v dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdc blank=fast Please: 1. please let cdrecord create a core dump (ulimit -c unlimited) 2. create a bugzilla entry with the core dump attached 3. try dev=ATA:1,0,0 instead of dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdc Thx! Harald Hoyer From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 19 11:21:00 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:21:00 -0400 Subject: Failed hard disk install In-Reply-To: <40FB71BE.6010002@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40FB71BE.6010002@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <40FBAE9C.6040302@sbcglobal.net> Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > I'm trying to install FC3 test 1 here... > First , all cds have the right md5. Burnt cd1 , placed the isos on > /dev/hdc1 (fat32 partition that I always used in disk installs , except > in fedora core 2 test 2 , when I had to use a dvd disk). > After booting with linux askmethod selinux=0 xfs jfs hde=noprobe > hdf=noprobe hdg=noprobe hdh=noprobe (to test both xfs and jfs and dont > have to wait to sata probing), I got a failure message when I selected > the right directory and device , saying that the iso files werent found. > Switching to the other vts , there was this message: > <4> VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev hdc1 > <4> Unable to load NLS charset ascii > <3> fat: IO charset ascii not found > > I decided to give another try and copied the isos to my home xfs > partition (dont have any ext2/3 partitions here.. only xfs). Again , > same options and same error... > > As I said before , the same fat partition has been used to install all > the fedora stable and test releases since fedora core 1 on my computer , > except for fedora core 2 test 2 , which asked me for a driver to use the > harddisk , so I installed from a dvd... Also , I havent changed anything > on this partition (it's where I keep all my iso files and a few other > things that I dont change very often) > > Just added this to bugzilla , under bug number 128135 . > > -- > Pedro Macedo > > Related to a vfat failure, I could not assign a mount to a vfat partition. This worked in FC2. I added info to the report that related to vfat failures during install. Trying to mount a vfat partition during install such as /mnt/vfat will halt the installer with an error. Jim -- I guess I've been so wrapped up in playing the game that I never took time enough to figure out where the goal line was -- what it meant to win -- or even how you won. -- Cash McCall From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 19 11:34:12 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:34:12 -0400 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <1090224381.6886.27.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> <1090224381.6886.27.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <40FBB1B4.2060503@sbcglobal.net> Douglas Furlong wrote: > On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 13:21 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > >>I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing lists >>for testing have always been very lively, until this release. There >>seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community developers >>responding. Is that just my false impression? >> >>I'm concerned that this release and its successors will not receive >>enough criticism to fix bugs that should be caught before the final >>release of FC3. > > I can think of one reason. > > I have just tried to install (via http) using some UK/IE mirrors that I > know of, and none of them are completely upto date it would appear. > > One of the problems with the previous testing releases was the mirrors > being out of date and it being a challenge just to find the right mirror > to use. > > I would have thought waiting almost a week after the full release would > have resulted in me avoiding these problems but apparently not. > > > I dowloaded the isos from ncsu on the release date. These seemed to be up2date and took less than 4 hrs to download on that date. This is an ftp mirror and I've installed from this before w/ success. Usually, they are a day behind. I was surprised that they were current. If no luck, try bittorrent with the program installed and the following command in a shell where you want the isos installed. I got the bittorrent from Fedora Extras. This version works nicely. btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 350 --url http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC3-test1-binary-i386.torrent This should be one commandline. I've been giving up bits w/ the images that I ftped down from ncsu since release date. I only get upload speeds around 20 kps/s though. (no time downloading.) The disks md5summed fine and passed media tests for all disks when burned. Jim From mcwimpy at gmx.at Mon Jul 19 13:54:38 2004 From: mcwimpy at gmx.at (Markus Nicolussi) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:54:38 +0200 (MEST) Subject: FC3 + SATA RAID Message-ID: <6234.1090245278@www47.gmx.net> Hello everybody! I'm waiting for a Fedora Release which supports my SATA RAID set. I'm wondering if FC3 is what i'm waiting for... I have the ASUS A7N8Deluxe with the Silicon Image Sil 3112A-Controller with and RAID 0/1-support in the _BIOS_. That means: I have a config tool in the BIOS and there i can merge my 2 SATA Disks to one big (striped RAID 0). After doing this, for the OS it looks as if i have one big, fast disk. With the drivers SiI supprots for WinXP and RH9 ( http://12.24.47.40/display/2n/kb/article.asp?aid=10767 ) u can use this one big, fast virtual disk. You may ask why i don't want to use SW RAID. I have installed windowsXP (4 gaming) and want to use the free space after the XP partition 4 Linux. Therefore i have to use a Linux which can see the big virtual disk the BIOS displays, like with the driver from SiI. At the moment this is RH9, but RH9 is old... i want to use Fedora. Now i googled for hours and cant find a webpage which informs me of the current state of the linux kernel driver, the fedora installer anaconda and the general support in fedora. ==> Does such a webpage exist? ==> has anaconda integrated dmraid support in FC3-Test1? ==> Where can i keep myselfe informed? sincerely, nico From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon Jul 19 14:37:39 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:37:39 -0400 Subject: OOo slow? In-Reply-To: <1090178493.10793.3.camel@T7.linux> References: <1090178493.10793.3.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1090247859.3408.72.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 14:21 -0500, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I'm loading in a 1.1Mb file. It is mostly text, with three fonts in > and > one graphic. > > Is it normal to take upto 10 minutes for it to hit the screen properly > or is there something I can do to speed it up? > > OOo 1.1.1-6 > FC3t1 Loaded a 2.1 MB M$ Word document with tables/text/graphics into an open instance of OOo Writer (FC3T1/OOo under VMware VM on Athlon MP Dual 1800 +) from an NFS-mounted directory and it took less than 20 seconds. Saving the same document to a local directory on the VM virtual disk took ~ 30 seconds, and shrunk to 1.3 MB. Starting OOo from scratch on this document from the GUI took ~ 20 seconds. Not too slow for me. Phil From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon Jul 19 14:44:14 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:44:14 -0400 Subject: Failed DVD install of FC3T1 In-Reply-To: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A1E@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> References: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A1E@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <1090248254.3408.79.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 23:35 -0400, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > Hi, > > I finally created a DVD for FC3T1 from the four CDROM ISOs. > > The md5sum checked out. Also the media check worked fine. > > However, the installatiion hangs on trying to install the following package: > > "fontconfig-2.2.1-11" > > Reports: > > ===================================================================================== > The package fontconfig-2.2.1-11 could not be opened. This is due to a missing file > or perhaps a corrupt package. > ===================================================================================== > > Did anyone else get this? Loaded FC3T1 from a DVD image mounted in a VMware VM without problems - Workstation install + lots of extras such as KDE, admin tools, and KDE/ Gnome/kernel development. Has fontconfig-2.1.1-11 loaded OK. > > Also, can we make Anaconda have a skip package option? Can't answer that one, but sounds like a request for a new feature with the possibility of some hairy dependency implications. Phil From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon Jul 19 14:58:27 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:58:27 -0400 Subject: sshd cannot alloc pty under fc3t1 In-Reply-To: <40FB672A.3010900@crc.dk> References: <20040714142929.GA19436@wolves.durham.nc.us> <40FB64C6.1000802@crc.dk> <40FB672A.3010900@crc.dk> Message-ID: <1090249107.3408.86.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 08:16 +0200, Mogens Kjaer wrote: > Mogens Kjaer wrote: > > Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > ... > > > >> Anyone else seeing this? > >> > > > > Yes, same error here when ssh'ing from FC2 to FC3t1. No problems here as either user or root with ssh FC2 to/from FC3t1. openssh-3.8.1p1-4 kernel-2.6.7-1.492 > > Hm, a > > umount /dev/pts > mount /dev/pts > > seems to cure the problem... Just upgraded to latest rawhide packages including kernel and rebooted before testing, but ssh was also working with FC3T1 fresh install and through previous rawhide upgrades. Phil From i.pilcher at comcast.net Sun Jul 18 21:28:20 2004 From: i.pilcher at comcast.net (Ian Pilcher) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:28:20 -0500 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing lists > for testing have always been very lively, until this release. There > seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community developers > responding. Is that just my false impression? In my case, it's because I run into a kernel BUG every time I try to install it. I opened bugzilla, but I haven't heard anything back. Makes it kind of hard to do more extensive testing. -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher at comcast.net ======================================================================== From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 15:15:25 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:15:25 -0400 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <604aa79104071908151e876d50@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:28:20 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: > In my case, it's because I run into a kernel BUG every time I try to > install it. I opened bugzilla, but I haven't heard anything back. > > Makes it kind of hard to do more extensive testing. tsk tsk, you didn't cite a bug number makes it impossible for anyone else doing testing to compare notes. Now, I'm not suggesting everyone report to the list all the bugnumbers for all the reports they file. But I do think it would be appropriate to cite a bug number IF you feel its worth mentioning that you reported a problem. -jef From fedora at warmcat.com Mon Jul 19 15:23:53 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:23:53 +0100 Subject: OOo slow? In-Reply-To: <1090247859.3408.72.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1090178493.10793.3.camel@T7.linux> <1090247859.3408.72.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <200407191624.00561.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 19 July 2004 15:37, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 14:21 -0500, Paul wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm loading in a 1.1Mb file. It is mostly text, with three fonts in > > and > > one graphic. > > > > Is it normal to take upto 10 minutes for it to hit the screen properly > > or is there something I can do to speed it up? Do I not recall some badness happening in the case of non-reachable network printers being defined? Run tcpdump in console window while starting up.... in fact whenever presented with long timeouts that's a wise first move. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA++eOjKeDCxMJCTIRAuR0AJsGG30hJB3Mam0HIqFGd6tBk2hltACeOshe 06MWfYgpZcpASknidUWGTyI= =GGcf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From i.pilcher at comcast.net Mon Jul 19 15:29:35 2004 From: i.pilcher at comcast.net (Ian Pilcher) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:29:35 -0500 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <604aa79104071908151e876d50@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> <604aa79104071908151e876d50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:28:20 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > >>Gerry Tool wrote: >>In my case, it's because I run into a kernel BUG every time I try to >>install it. I opened bugzilla, but I haven't heard anything back. >> >>Makes it kind of hard to do more extensive testing. > > > tsk tsk, you didn't cite a bug number makes it impossible for anyone > else doing testing to compare notes. Now, I'm not suggesting everyone > report to the list all the bugnumbers for all the reports they file. > But I do think it would be appropriate to cite a bug number IF you > feel its worth mentioning that you reported a problem. > > -jef > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127862 -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher at comcast.net ======================================================================== From ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org Mon Jul 19 15:55:33 2004 From: ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org (Steven P. Ulrick) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:55:33 -0500 Subject: OOo slow? In-Reply-To: <1090178493.10793.3.camel@T7.linux> References: <1090178493.10793.3.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <20040719105533.3be86d70.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:21:33 +0100 Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I'm loading in a 1.1Mb file. It is mostly text, with three fonts in > and one graphic. > > Is it normal to take upto 10 minutes for it to hit the screen properly > or is there something I can do to speed it up? > > OOo 1.1.1-6 > FC3t1 > > TTFN > > Paul Hello, Paul :) I had an issue with 300 kb files taking WAY to long to load/save. I noticed, using kpm (K process manager) that fam, htt and htt_server were taking up way to much resources (I've had problems with these processes monopolizing our system before) When I killed fam and all processes that began with htt*, my load times on OpenOffice went back to normal. I am running Fedora Core 2, with all official updates installed. This issue was a problem with all versions of OpenOffice that I have installed. I don't know if this has anything to do with your problem, but it fixed mine :) Steven P. Ulrick From andreas at dicp.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de Mon Jul 19 16:18:17 2004 From: andreas at dicp.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de (Andreas Thienemann) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:18:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <604aa79104071908151e876d50@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> <604aa79104071908151e876d50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > But I do think it would be appropriate to cite a bug number IF you > feel its worth mentioning that you reported a problem. Ohhh. So I'd like to pipe in with my personal pet bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=126001 It's a royal PITA as the box keeps crashing... Now... If anyone could confirm that this does not happen on FC3T1, you'd have one happy cam^H^H^Htester. :) bye, andreas From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 16:32:27 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:32:27 -0400 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> <604aa79104071908151e876d50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa791040719093222ee7863@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:18:17 +0200 (CEST), Andreas Thienemann wrote: > Ohhh. So I'd like to pipe in with my personal pet bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=126001 In the future, maybe it would be wiser to start a new thread instead of globbing on to an existing thread that is several posts long. Competent people using your hardware using threading mail readers, aren't necessarily going to read a thread "why is this list so quiet" to find new and interesting testing issues to help confirm. Case in point, I'm not competent and I don't have your hardware and I am not experiencing your problems in fc2, but I do read and reply back to messages in threads that clearly have nothing to do with the original thread subject. There is a deep and mystical truth at work here. -jef"addicted to yahoo blackjack"spaleta From andreas at dicp.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de Mon Jul 19 16:40:37 2004 From: andreas at dicp.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de (Andreas Thienemann) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:40:37 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <604aa791040719093222ee7863@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> <604aa79104071908151e876d50@mail.gmail.com> <604aa791040719093222ee7863@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:18:17 +0200 (CEST), Andreas Thienemann > In the future, maybe it would be wiser to start a new thread instead > of globbing on to an existing thread that is several posts long. Personally I found out that the last time I asked about that problem nobody answered... And the thread even had a sensible subject... bye, andreas From don.raikes at oracle.com Mon Jul 19 16:50:22 2004 From: don.raikes at oracle.com (Don Raikes) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:50:22 -0700 Subject: fc2 problems wit h cdrecord Message-ID: <200407191650.i6JGoMUq030365@rgmgw1.us.oracle.com> Hi all, I have fedora core 2 installed on a compaq desktop with a sony cdrw drive in it. Any time I try to create a cd, I get an error saying "cdrecord: OPC failed" the command I am using to create teh cd is: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -dao x.iso The line above the OPC error says something about a timeout after 200 seconds or so. The sony cdrw drive is an ATAPI drive not a scsi drive. Thanks, Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist Home office: (520) 579-9481 AIM: dnraikes -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <200407191624.00561.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1090178493.10793.3.camel@T7.linux> <1090247859.3408.72.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <200407191624.00561.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1090263225.32649.4.camel@laptop.andyw.net> > > > Is it normal to take upto 10 minutes for it to hit the screen properly > > > or is there something I can do to speed it up? > > Do I not recall some badness happening in the case of non-reachable network > printers being defined? Run tcpdump in console window while starting up.... > in fact whenever presented with long timeouts that's a wise first move. > > - -Andy That's right, it happened to me (among others) with FC2 release version. Similar, anyway. I had a new install with no printers defined. As soon as I told the system about my printer (CUPS on another box), speed of OOo returned to normal. AndyW From vectrox at home.nl Mon Jul 19 21:22:15 2004 From: vectrox at home.nl (Tim Raats) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:22:15 +0200 Subject: Turn of SELinux Message-ID: <1090272135.3301.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> How do I disable SELinux or even remove it ? From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 19 21:46:37 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:46:37 -0400 Subject: stuck w/ a 640 x 480 resolution - Dell 828 656 Graphics controller - Solved A04 BIOS In-Reply-To: <40F702EA.1040501@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F66EF2.10304@sbcglobal.net> <1089895669.8791.29.camel@localhost> <40F702EA.1040501@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40FC413D.7060406@sbcglobal.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Mitch Anderson wrote: > >> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 05:48, Jim Cornette wrote: >> >> >>> 1) Is there a way to get the resolution corrected to do better than >>> 640 x 480, with this type of video card, using Fedora? >> >> >> >> Yes, it has been a known problem with some Dell models. Seems its a >> BIOS problem. Setting the Video RAM buffer to 8M instead of the default >> 1M usually fixes it. However they "attempted" to fix the bios in an A03 >> release which made the bios fix no longer work. You just have to force >> 32MB - 48MB for its video ram in X.org's config. I checked the Dell website for the Dell Optiplex GX270 today and found an A04 version of the BIOS available. I had all the settings for legacy video set to 8m and the AGP video set to 128 meg. (Same settings as with A03 BIOS) The result with the new version BIOS was I'm now able to get 1280 x 1024, which is a far sight better than 640 x 480! About the 640 x 480 resolution, is it possible for this setting to have a default or choice, to be able to follow the mouse offscreen to reveal the rest of whatever is clipped from a program ran under the GUI in 640 x 480? This feature would be good for old LCD displays, servers and for computers with shorted out BIOS installations. 640 x 480 resolution is pretty useless when you cannot pan off the screen and complete items that are hidden from view. >> > > I recall the A03 message on the BIOS screen. Thanks everyone for the > advice/hints. >> These two options have solved the problem for me, however here is some >> more info about it: >> >> http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/855patch.html I didn't try the forcing 32MB - 48MB scheme for video RAM in xorg.conf - The site might come in handy for other video problems. (hopefully not needed) Thanks! Jim -- You don't have to know how the computer works, just how to work the computer. From dravet at hotmail.com Mon Jul 19 21:49:20 2004 From: dravet at hotmail.com (Jason Dravet) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:49:20 -0500 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? Message-ID: I am getting the following messages on one of the other screens (Alt-F4). <3>Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 161345 <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): errir=0x30 <4>end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 1290776 There are several more of these type messages each with the logical block and sector incremented by one. I have tried different media and different isos. Each ISO's md5sum matches the md5sum at download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/etc... If I can get access to it, I might be able to try a second burrner. Jason _________________________________________________________________ Overwhelmed by debt? Find out how to ?Dig Yourself Out of Debt? from MSN Money. http://special.msn.com/money/0407debt.armx From gstool at earthlink.net Mon Jul 19 21:50:44 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:50:44 -0500 Subject: Turn of SELinux In-Reply-To: <1090272135.3301.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1090272135.3301.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40FC4234.60606@earthlink.net> Tim Raats wrote: > How do I disable SELinux or even remove it ? > > You can disable it by appending selinux=0 to the kernel line in /etc/grub.conf. From mfedyk at matchmail.com Mon Jul 19 22:30:35 2004 From: mfedyk at matchmail.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:30:35 -0700 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40FC4B8B.2090002@matchmail.com> Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing > lists for testing have always been very lively, until this release. > There seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community > developers responding. Is that just my false impression? Because there's so many talking about it in the releases list (fedora-list) instead. A linux newbie told me he thought it was funny when he saw a reply who's contents was entirely "please take this to fedora-test-list"... From jreiser at BitWagon.com Mon Jul 19 22:51:35 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:51:35 -0700 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FC5077.10900@BitWagon.com> > <3>Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 161345 > <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete > Error } > <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): errir=0x30 > <4>end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 1290776 > > There are several more of these type messages each with the logical > block and sector incremented by one. Assume this is FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso, whose length is 660889600 bytes. [If it is really -disc2.iso, with length 669511680 bytes, then the entire rest of _this_ message DOES NOT APPLY.] Look at this section of "od -c -Ax FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso | more", which occurs within the first couple screenfuls: ----- 008370 360 001 \0 I S O M D 5 S U M = 008380 d 0 2 d d a d 1 2 8 4 b b 9 1 4 008390 3 f 2 9 2 c 6 4 0 e b 4 b 6 b 8 0083a0 ; S K I P S E C T O R S = 1 0083b0 5 ; R H L I S O S T A T U S = 0 0083c0 ; T H I S I S N O T T H E 0083d0 S A M E A S R U N N I N G 0083e0 M D 5 S U M O N T H I S 0083f0 I S O ! ! ----- Notice the "SKIPSECTORS = 15;" which [probably] means that the last 15 (either IDE 512-byte disk sectors, or 2K-byte CD-ROM physical blocks) should not be included in the _internal_ md5sum (which is not the same as the md5sum of the whole .iso file). This is from the "-pad" commandline argument to mkisofs. From the last console message: Assume "sector 1290776" means "IDE 512-byte sector 1290776". Then 1290776 corresponds to byte 1290776 * 512 = 660,877,312, which is 12,288 bytes short of the end of the .iso file. That 12,288 bytes is within the 15 * 2048 byte -pad region. So probably that particular error can be ignored, on the basis that the error arose by reading beyond the physical end of data, when mediacheck was reading 30 * 2K bytes at a time as an efficiency hack. The blocks that correspond to the data that the installer will use, should be OK. I don't know how to interpret "<3>Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 161345" which may be from much earlier, or even from a different CD-ROM. -- From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 19 23:01:41 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:01:41 -0400 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FC52D5.1070800@sbcglobal.net> Jason Dravet wrote: > I am getting the following messages on one of the other screens (Alt-F4). > > <3>Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 161345 > <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete > Error } > <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): errir=0x30 > <4>end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 1290776 > > There are several more of these type messages each with the logical > block and sector incremented by one. > > I have tried different media and different isos. Each ISO's md5sum > matches the md5sum at download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/etc... > > If I can get access to it, I might be able to try a second burrner. > > Jason > This problem sounds familiar. I did not get any media errors personally with any of the discs. Did you try the hdd=nodma or whatever the option to turn off dma for the CDROM might be? I did have mediacheck problems on an old Toshiba laptop a long time ago. There were not any media errors on the computer that I burned the discs on, but the discs still seemed muddied. This was back on RHL8.0 to Phoebe. These problems don't seem to be around any longer. What method are you using to burn the CDs. I burned mine from nautilus with the highlight iso file, then right click and choose write to CD. I used the CDs on about 5 real computers and one virtual computer. Jim From dravet at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 00:24:11 2004 From: dravet at hotmail.com (Jason Dravet) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:24:11 -0500 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? Message-ID: The CD I was describing was FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso. At this time I only have a Windows XP partition. I switched PCs a couple weeks ago and I only had time to install XP. I also saw shortly after that FC3 test1 would be out soon so I decided to wait for FC3-test1 for the install. I burned the isos using a fully patched XP Pro system with ISO Recorder from http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm. It is funny that DMA should be mentioned. I just turn it on for the zip drive and CD-ROM this afternoon. I turned DMA on after I burned the replacement CDs. I will try re-burnning the CDs tomorrow. Thanks, Jason _________________________________________________________________ Overwhelmed by debt? Find out how to ?Dig Yourself Out of Debt? from MSN Money. http://special.msn.com/money/0407debt.armx From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Tue Jul 20 00:37:46 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:37:46 -0400 Subject: Turn of SELinux In-Reply-To: <40FC4234.60606@earthlink.net> References: <1090272135.3301.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40FC4234.60606@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1090283866.3447.1.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 16:50 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > Tim Raats wrote: > > How do I disable SELinux or even remove it ? > > > > > You can disable it by appending selinux=0 to the kernel line in > /etc/grub.conf. and/or... # cat >/etc/sysconfig/selinux SELINUX=disabled ctrl-d From ckunkel at been-there.com Tue Jul 20 01:31:30 2004 From: ckunkel at been-there.com (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:31:30 -0400 Subject: Good Install of FC3T1 - So Far Message-ID: <1090287090.6598.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Did a clean install except for /boot partition. No problems with media checks all 4 discs. Used same device as burned the ISOs--Sony DVD RW DRU-530A. First minor problem was KVM crazy mouse--plugged a separate mouse in directly to PS/2 port to get thru install. Had tried to use psmouse.proto=imps at inital boot: prompt, but wouldn't take. Had to wait for install to finish. My Firewire drive and USB drive are both seen, can't mount yet since they are NTFS spindles. Disabled selinux during install. Only other current problem is SAMBA. Get following errors when executing system-config-samba: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/system-config-samba.py", line 38, in ? mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag) File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 75, in __init__ self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self) File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 40, in __init__ self.parseFile() File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 71, in parseFile token = self.createToken(line) File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 143, in createToken token = sambaToken.SambaToken (sambaToken.SambaToken.SAMBA_TOKEN_KEYVAL, (name, value), self.parent) File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaToken.py", line 36, in __init__ raise AttributeError, value AttributeError: ('cups options', 'raw') Couldn't find anything in bugzilla, still looking in archives. Anyone seen anything like this? Continuing with testing.... From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Jul 20 01:37:08 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:37:08 -0400 Subject: Good Install of FC3T1 - So Far In-Reply-To: <1090287090.6598.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1090287090.6598.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040720013708.GA20344@wolves.durham.nc.us> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 09:31:30PM -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > Only other current problem is SAMBA. Get following errors when > executing system-config-samba: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/system-config-samba.py", line 38, > in ? > mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag) > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 75, in > __init__ > self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self) > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 40, in > __init__ > self.parseFile() > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 71, in > parseFile > token = self.createToken(line) > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 143, in > createToken token = sambaToken.SambaToken > (sambaToken.SambaToken.SAMBA_TOKEN_KEYVAL, (name, value), self.parent) > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaToken.py", line 36, in > __init__ > raise AttributeError, value > AttributeError: ('cups options', 'raw') > > Couldn't find anything in bugzilla, still looking in archives. Anyone > seen anything like this? > I've seen the same thing, have not yet bugzilla'd it. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 19 22:42:23 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:42:23 -0400 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> References: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40FC4E4F.8030902@sbcglobal.net> Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing lists > for testing have always been very lively, until this release. There > seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community developers > responding. Is that just my false impression? > > I'm concerned that this release and its successors will not receive > enough criticism to fix bugs that should be caught before the final > release of FC3. > > Gerry Tool > > The major issue that I heard from most people on the fedora-list were that they are downloading a lot of information to use for a short period of time. Another issue seems to be path from test release to final release is "not supported" and from one beta into another beta not being an "approved"upgrade path. Personally, I think their beta paychecks bounced. Except for vmware on an XP host not being bootable after an installation and the now solved buggy BIOS video problem, I think this is a pretty smooth beta release. The other bugs that were submitted seem to be resolved or being chased to squash. Except the vmware installation. Are vmware installations being considered and being persued? I know they are virtual machines, but have virtual hardware specs. Jim -- May you die in bed at 95, shot by a jealous spouse. From dsavage at peaknet.net Tue Jul 20 02:06:32 2004 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:06:32 -0500 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> References: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> Message-ID: <1090289191.4306.26.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 09:53, Timothy Sandel wrote: > Is there any plans to implement the reiserfs into fc. I just installed > fc3-t1 and see it's still not there. I notice on average about a 50% > throughput increase on my linux workstations with this file system. On > top of that the recovery time on recovering the journal is a lot faster > too. > > Timothy As I hear it, until other filesystems add support for SELinux's EAs, you're pretty much "stuck" with ext3. Of course you can always disable SELinux and do your own thing with whatever fs you want. --Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 1 kernel 2.4.22-1.2197.nptl on P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Jul 20 02:21:38 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:21:38 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F9F685.8020901@earthlink.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> <40F93746.2080806@earthlink.net> <40F9420C.60908@sbcglobal.net> <40F9F685.8020901@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40FC81B2.5030606@earthlink.net> Gerry Tool wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Gerry Tool wrote: >> >>> New data from FC2 and FC3T1 >>> >>> USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC2 >>> >>> kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 >>> >>> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >>> usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >>> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage >>> usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using address 2 >>> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2 >>> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 >>> ========= >>> I believe 3-1 is the scanner since I have to chmod >>> /proc/bus/usb/003/002 in FC2 to get the scanner to work. >>> In addition to the scanner, my smartmedia card and my USB key show >>> up in Hardware Browser >>> ========= >>> >>> USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC3T1 >>> >>> kernel 2.6.7-1.488 >>> >>> usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using address 3 >>> usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >>> usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >>> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage >>> drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for >>> Generic >>> usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic >>> usbcore: registered new driver usbserial >>> drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 >>> ========= >>> The numbers are different here than in FC2. The scanner is not to >>> be found by root with sane-find-scanner, but the smartmedia card and >>> USB key do show up in hardware browser. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >> >> It looks to me that the 3 and 2 from FC2 are correct. What confuses >> this novice is the absence of a 3 in FC3T1 and having the usbserial >> driver added for your system. (no serial USB before) - My guess is >> that with the comparison between FC2 and FC3 test, you have a real >> bug on your hands. >> >> I trimmed out the date information in hopes of this making more sense >> to me. >> >> I also ran the hardware browser and my scanner was recognized under >> system devices. This is without plugging and unplugging the USB port >> to the scanner. >> >> If it is not in the HW browser, it is a bug. :-) > > > I filed a bug report #128108 about the scanner not showing up. > > Gerry > > kernel 2.6.7-1.494 has fixed this problem for me. Gerry From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 20 02:55:19 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:55:19 -0400 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner - kernel *.494, now it works again. In-Reply-To: <40FC81B2.5030606@earthlink.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> <40F93746.2080806@earthlink.net> <40F9420C.60908@sbcglobal.net> <40F9F685.8020901@earthlink.net> <40FC81B2.5030606@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40FC8997.8090502@sbcglobal.net> Gerry Tool wrote: >> >> I filed a bug report #128108 about the scanner not showing up. >> >> Gerry >> >> > kernel 2.6.7-1.494 has fixed this problem for me. > > Gerry > > Did the kernel change your usb devices to be the same as for FC2? Or are the reports pretty much similar to what was posted before? I guess it does not matter! One bug squashed! Now this kernel version, is this from Arjan's 2.6 kernel directory. I still show kernel-2.6.7-1.492 as the latest version. Jim From bkoz at redhat.com Tue Jul 20 03:09:12 2004 From: bkoz at redhat.com (Benjamin Kosnik) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:09:12 -0500 Subject: C++ Problem In-Reply-To: <1089908160.4348.7.camel@dhcp91-24.njit.edu> References: <1089908160.4348.7.camel@dhcp91-24.njit.edu> Message-ID: <20040719220912.36fb882e.bkoz@redhat.com> > fstream filestr("test.cpp", ios::in|ios::out|ios::app); this is not a valid mode. Try ios::out | ios::app. See: 27.8.1.4 - Member functions [lib.filebuf.members] -benjamin From barryn at pobox.com Tue Jul 20 03:26:21 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:26:21 -0700 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <1090289191.4306.26.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> <1090289191.4306.26.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <20040720032621.GA3902@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 09:06:32PM -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > As I hear it, until other filesystems add support for SELinux's EAs, > you're pretty much "stuck" with ext3. Of course you can always disable > SELinux and do your own thing with whatever fs you want. ext2 and xfs also have (working) support for the SELinux EA's, as of the FC2 release. The FC2 update kernels added (broken) reiserfs support for the SELinux EA's. For JFS, IIRC there's a patch floating around that extends its EA support to be SELinux-compatible, but it hasn't been committed upstream to the best of my knowledge. For reiserfs, the bugs in the EA support are being worked on upstream. -Barry K. Nathan From barryn at pobox.com Tue Jul 20 03:29:03 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:29:03 -0700 Subject: Failed hard disk install In-Reply-To: <40FBAE9C.6040302@sbcglobal.net> References: <40FB71BE.6010002@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <40FBAE9C.6040302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040720032903.GB3902@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Related to a vfat failure, I could not assign a mount to a vfat > partition. This worked in FC2. > > I added info to the report that related to vfat failures during install. > > Trying to mount a vfat partition during install such as /mnt/vfat will > halt the installer with an error. Does this still happen with an FC-devel snapshot from 20040714 or later? -Barry K. Nathan From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Jul 20 03:42:15 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:42:15 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner - kernel *.494, now it works again. In-Reply-To: <40FC8997.8090502@sbcglobal.net> References: <40F842BC.70905@earthlink.net> <40F88E5A.3020007@sbcglobal.net> <40F894B8.2000603@earthlink.net> <40F8997C.8020708@sbcglobal.net> <40F89F31.50807@earthlink.net> <40F8A54B.1000506@sbcglobal.net> <40F93746.2080806@earthlink.net> <40F9420C.60908@sbcglobal.net> <40F9F685.8020901@earthlink.net> <40FC81B2.5030606@earthlink.net> <40FC8997.8090502@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40FC9497.2090607@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: > >>> >>> I filed a bug report #128108 about the scanner not showing up. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >> kernel 2.6.7-1.494 has fixed this problem for me. >> >> Gerry >> >> > > Did the kernel change your usb devices to be the same as for FC2? Or > are the reports pretty much similar to what was posted before? The new messages entries for usb are much more similar to the FC2 entries than the previous FC3t1 entries > > I guess it does not matter! One bug squashed! > > Now this kernel version, is this from Arjan's 2.6 kernel directory. I > still show kernel-2.6.7-1.492 as the latest version. I just installed it from current updates. Try checking for new updates to find it. Gerry From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 03:43:01 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:43:01 +0700 Subject: Package building and alternate kernels (Re: Why is this list so quiet) Message-ID: <883cfe6d04071920431d839990@mail.gmail.com> Reading a recent post in fedora-test-list on the lack of testers for FC3t1 reminded me of a wishlist I had had ever since I tried using Fink on Mac OS X. What we are missing at the moment in Fedora is an easier way to rebuild packages from source. Not advocating an optimize-like-hell approach like Gentoo's, but more the approach of Fink or the *BSDs; i.e. being able to issue a command like 'yum build foo' which will check all the build requirements of package foo, and for those not found, download the source packages, rebuild them, and install them automagically behind the scenes.* (* I believe Debian does that also, but I can't remember) With Fedora Core releases happening every six months, people with a lot of non-Core packages installed would appreciate being able to quickly rebuild their packages to check for errors, IMHO. Mach might be able to do this, but unfortunately I'm on a metered connection right now and could not try it until next month. Which sadly rules me out of the test periods, so apologies if I introduce suggestions that have already been implemented or seem naive. Another thing is to provide alternate kernel images. Not just various recompiles of the same kernel versions as FC currently does, but older kernels as well for compatibility reasons. It would be especially nice if this could be integrated into Anaconda but really, people who need older kernels could dig up the RPM from the installation media unless the standard kernel is unbootable. In my case, for example, the last kernel to support my external Firewire/USB drive is kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 from FC2t2 (IIRC). Just my 2 cents, - Michel From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 03:57:49 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:57:49 +0700 Subject: Yet another FC3 wishlist Message-ID: <883cfe6d0407192057233dcd6c@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Would it be possible to include support for the Intel Pro Wireless 2100 and 2200 wireless cards? (The drivers are available at ipw2100.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net respectively) Most Centrino laptops come with either of these cards, so it would be a nice addition. There might be license problems with bundling the binary firmware, but it is packaged separately from the drivers and from SuSE 9.1 install reports it seems that SuSE just bundles the drivers and tell their users to get the firmware themselves. Thanks, - Michel From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Jul 20 04:13:18 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:13:18 -0400 Subject: cdrecord fails with "Floating Point Exception" Message-ID: <20040720041318.GA21690@wolves.durham.nc.us> I've just bugzilla'd this (under cdrtools component) with the command output and a core dump available via an http link to my machine. Bug #128206 -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Tue Jul 20 07:44:38 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:44:38 +0100 Subject: Yet another FC3 wishlist In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0407192057233dcd6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <883cfe6d0407192057233dcd6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1090309478.8585.21.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 10:57 +0700, Michel Salim wrote: > Hi, > > Would it be possible to include support for the Intel Pro Wireless > 2100 and 2200 wireless cards? (The drivers are available at > ipw2100.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net respectively) > > Most Centrino laptops come with either of these cards, so it would be > a nice addition. There might be license problems with bundling the > binary firmware, but it is packaged separately from the drivers and > from SuSE 9.1 install reports it seems that SuSE just bundles the > drivers and tell their users to get the firmware themselves. > > Thanks, > > - Michel You may want to include this as a request for enhancement, or what ever it is called in bugzilla, you may have slightly more luck (and post a link when you mention it on here to also make it easier for developers. -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Bjorn Andersen From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 10:28:00 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:28:00 +0700 Subject: Yet another FC3 wishlist In-Reply-To: <1090309478.8585.21.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> References: <883cfe6d0407192057233dcd6c@mail.gmail.com> <1090309478.8585.21.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <883cfe6d04072003288b16e8a@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:44:38 +0100, Douglas Furlong wrote: > > > > Would it be possible to include support for the Intel Pro Wireless > > 2100 and 2200 wireless cards? (The drivers are available at > > ipw2100.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net respectively) > > > You may want to include this as a request for enhancement, or what ever > it is called in bugzilla, you may have slightly more luck (and post a > link when you mention it on here to also make it easier for developers. > Sure; I just thought I'd sound it off first in the mailing list, especially since I'm unable to run the latest kernels and so would not know if the modules are already integrated. Bug report available here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128218 Regards, - Michel From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 20 11:16:52 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:16:52 -0400 Subject: Failed hard disk install In-Reply-To: <20040720032903.GB3902@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> References: <40FB71BE.6010002@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <40FBAE9C.6040302@sbcglobal.net> <20040720032903.GB3902@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> Message-ID: <40FCFF24.3010107@sbcglobal.net> Barry K. Nathan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Related to a vfat failure, I could not assign a mount to a vfat >>partition. This worked in FC2. >> >>I added info to the report that related to vfat failures during install. >> >>Trying to mount a vfat partition during install such as /mnt/vfat will >>halt the installer with an error. > > > Does this still happen with an FC-devel snapshot from 20040714 or later? > > -Barry K. Nathan > > This vfat problem happened on a machine that I setup at work. Since this problem was easy to simulate. (just trying to mount a vfat partition during install / upgrade, pass or fail) I decided to wait for the FC3T2 CD to come out. I don't have any vfat partitions on any of the other test machines. I could probably try an ftp install and designate a mini partition as vfat to ensure that the bug was fixed in rawhide. I might give this a shot soon. I was going to try a clean install w/ selinux enabled next. I'm curious as to how the work has proceeded since FC2tests. Jim From russell at coker.com.au Tue Jul 20 05:17:55 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:17:55 +1000 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <1090289191.4306.26.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> <1090289191.4306.26.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <200407201517.55111.russell@coker.com.au> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:06, "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" wrote: > As I hear it, until other filesystems add support for SELinux's EAs, > you're pretty much "stuck" with ext3. Of course you can always disable > SELinux and do your own thing with whatever fs you want. XFS should work fine with SE Linux. Make sure you use the option "-i size=512" for mkfs.xfs to get best performance and space use. Otherwise an extra 4K block will be allocated for each file which will waste heaps of disk space and some performance. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From naheemzaffar at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 11:53:27 2004 From: naheemzaffar at gmail.com (Naheem Zaffar) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:53:27 +0100 Subject: Failed hard disk install In-Reply-To: <40FCFF24.3010107@sbcglobal.net> References: <40FB71BE.6010002@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <40FBAE9C.6040302@sbcglobal.net> <20040720032903.GB3902@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> <40FCFF24.3010107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3adc77210407200453604be2f8@mail.gmail.com> I also had a crash at mount time when trying to mount NTFS (I used the tutorial at linux ntfs to make the rpm and installed it). I used yum to move from FC2 to FC3t1. On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:16:52 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Barry K. Nathan wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >>Related to a vfat failure, I could not assign a mount to a vfat > >>partition. This worked in FC2. > >> > >>I added info to the report that related to vfat failures during install. > >> > >>Trying to mount a vfat partition during install such as /mnt/vfat will > >>halt the installer with an error. > > > > > > Does this still happen with an FC-devel snapshot from 20040714 or later? > > > > -Barry K. Nathan > > > > > > This vfat problem happened on a machine that I setup at work. Since this > problem was easy to simulate. (just trying to mount a vfat partition > during install / upgrade, pass or fail) I decided to wait for the FC3T2 > CD to come out. I don't have any vfat partitions on any of the other > test machines. > I could probably try an ftp install and designate a mini partition as > vfat to ensure that the bug was fixed in rawhide. > I might give this a shot soon. I was going to try a clean install w/ > selinux enabled next. I'm curious as to how the work has proceeded since > FC2tests. > > Jim > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From dima at mailvision.net Tue Jul 20 13:32:08 2004 From: dima at mailvision.net (Dima Gutzeit) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:32:08 +0300 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 References: <1090314388.10123.9.camel@Mars> Message-ID: <009d01c46e5d$f75233f0$1400a8c0@dima> I have a question regarding this issue ... Today I've installed FC2 on computer with SATA as the only harddisk. For the installation matter I've connected a CDROM to ide interface. The installation went just ok, but now the computer refuses to boot if I detach the cdrom drive. It does not matter what cd is in, with cdrom attached it books OK from SATA drive , but when detaching the device it fails with : Kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root on unknown-block(0,0) Anyone has a solution for it ? Thanks in advance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bjorn Andersen" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:06 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 > Hi > > Since Fedora Core 1 and the support of SATA disks there haw been a > problem in detection of standard boot device. > The Fedora installer dont detect what device the bios will boot on. > Annaconda standard boot on /dev/hda if it is present, but the people > that have a SATA disk as primary boot device, will have to switch the > boot loader to that device. If not, the bootloader will not boot, > because it is set on hda (the secondary harddisk). > > It would be a god idea to have Anaconda detect what primary bootdevice > from the bios. (like SuSE) > > I have seen a lot of frustrated newbees telling me that Fedora 2 dont > support SATA disks, and thats a shame. > > > > Regards > Bjorn Andersen > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From bfox at redhat.com Tue Jul 20 14:38:01 2004 From: bfox at redhat.com (Brent Fox) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:38:01 -0400 Subject: Good Install of FC3T1 - So Far In-Reply-To: <20040720013708.GA20344@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <1090287090.6598.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040720013708.GA20344@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <1090334281.23236.2.camel@verve.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 21:37, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 09:31:30PM -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > > Only other current problem is SAMBA. Get following errors when > > executing system-config-samba: > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/system-config-samba.py", line 38, > > in ? > > mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag) > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 75, in > > __init__ > > self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self) > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 40, in > > __init__ > > self.parseFile() > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 71, in > > parseFile > > token = self.createToken(line) > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 143, in > > createToken token = sambaToken.SambaToken > > (sambaToken.SambaToken.SAMBA_TOKEN_KEYVAL, (name, value), self.parent) > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaToken.py", line 36, in > > __init__ > > raise AttributeError, value > > AttributeError: ('cups options', 'raw') > > > > Couldn't find anything in bugzilla, still looking in archives. Anyone > > seen anything like this? > > > I've seen the same thing, have not yet bugzilla'd it. Please bugzilla and attach your /etc/samba/smb.conf file. Thanks, Brent From walters at redhat.com Tue Jul 20 14:53:57 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:53:57 -0400 Subject: TEST: gstreamer-0.8.3-2 & gstreamer-plugins-0.8.2-2 In-Reply-To: <1089212438.29706.6.camel@nexus.verbum.private> References: <1089212438.29706.6.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: <1090335237.14101.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 11:00 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, > > Due to the number of people who seem to be having trouble of various > sorts with GStreamer, I'd like to update the versions in FC2 to the > latest upstream versions, which should hopefully fix a lot of these > issues. Hi, I've now pushed gstreamer-plugins-0.8.2-2.1 which should fix the pausing issues in Rhythmbox. Please let me know if this works for you too, if there are no problems I'll finally get these updates out for real in the next few days :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 20 15:46:30 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:46:30 -0500 Subject: rpm -vhF foomatic fails Message-ID: rpm -qa|grep foomatic foomatic-3.0.1-2 rpm -vhF /mnt/exp/fed2/RPMS/foomatic-3.0.1-6.i386.rpm (That directory is my mirror of rawhide) /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory error: Failed dependencies: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.4) is needed by foomatic-3.0.1-6 I can't find any perl module by that name, but it doesn't really appear to be the package name anyway. It should be though shouldn't it? How might I track this dependency down without a name. I've tried all file names inside rpmdb-fedora-2-0.20040716.i386.rpm Which is the current rawhide pkg containing the full distro data base. I keep a list of all file names on hand so looked for `grep -e module_compat homemade_file.db' and come up with zip. What use is this reference and what does it point to? From twaugh at redhat.com Tue Jul 20 15:52:49 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:52:49 +0100 Subject: rpm -vhF foomatic fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:46:30AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > rpm -qa|grep foomatic > foomatic-3.0.1-2 > > rpm -vhF /mnt/exp/fed2/RPMS/foomatic-3.0.1-6.i386.rpm > (That directory is my mirror of rawhide) > > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory > error: Failed dependencies: > perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.4) is needed by foomatic-3.0.1-6 > > I can't find any perl module by that name, but it doesn't really > appear to be the package name anyway. It should be though shouldn't > it? How might I track this dependency down without a name. Install the rpmdb-fedora from rawhide and: rpm -q --redhatprovides 'perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.4)' You'll see that perl provides this. > What use is this reference and what does it point to? It is to make sure that you install the version of perl that is necessary for that compiled package. It dumps perl modules into the file system and the installed perl must be able to load them. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From si at bananas.hopto.org Tue Jul 20 16:57:52 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:57:52 +0100 Subject: Mount Point / busy FC3 T1 - Soundcard Detection In-Reply-To: <20040720160033.E9EF274122@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040720160033.E9EF274122@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40FD4F10.5090206@bananas.hopto.org> Hi All, 1. When rebooting / shuting down a message near the end says Mount / is busy. Is this a bug with something still using the hard drive that shouldn't be or is this normal now? 2. If you have 2 sound cards, if you select one as the primary it does not change the modprobe.conf to reflect this and the sound will not work. I.E I have onboard Nvidia audio and a soundblaster, the soundblaster is always detected first on install, during the install i said i wanted it to be the primary soundcard but it isn't and i have to manually go into modprobe and change the soundcards around. Regards, Simon Jones From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 20 17:01:46 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:01:46 -0500 Subject: rpm -vhF foomatic fails In-Reply-To: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> (Tim Waugh's message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:52:49 +0100") References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: Tim Waugh writes: >> What use is this reference and what does it point to? > > It is to make sure that you install the version of perl that is > necessary for that compiled package. It dumps perl modules into the > file system and the installed perl must be able to load them. Yup and thanks From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 20 17:22:31 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:22:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: rpm -vhF foomatic fails In-Reply-To: References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Tim Waugh writes: > >>> What use is this reference and what does it point to? >> >> It is to make sure that you install the version of perl that is >> necessary for that compiled package. It dumps perl modules into the >> file system and the installed perl must be able to load them. > > Yup and thanks BTW: you could have just used yum. for eg - on FC2: [root at localhost root]# yum -c /etc/yum.conf.dev upgrade foomatic Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Rawhide Development Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Finding obsoleted packages Resolving dependencies .Dependencies resolved I will do the following: [update: foomatic 3.0.1-6.i386] I will install/upgrade these to satisfy the dependencies: [deps: perl 3:5.8.4-3.i386] Is this ok [y/N]: From geoff at direcway.com Tue Jul 20 17:24:18 2004 From: geoff at direcway.com (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:24:18 -0700 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <1090314388.10123.9.camel@Mars> References: <1090314388.10123.9.camel@Mars> Message-ID: <20040720172418.GA3088@mtranch.mtranch.com> On 07.20 02:06, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > Hi > > Since Fedora Core 1 and the support of SATA disks there haw been a > problem in detection of standard boot device. > The Fedora installer dont detect what device the bios will boot on. > Annaconda standard boot on /dev/hda if it is present, but the people > that have a SATA disk as primary boot device, will have to switch the > boot loader to that device. If not, the bootloader will not boot, > because it is set on hda (the secondary harddisk). Not so. FC2 installed out of the box (so to speak) without a hitch on my SATA/Promise MB. Needless to say, its been booting just fine since then. It is true that SATA support was missing in FC1, as it was first available in the 2.6 kernel. SATA drivers use /dev/sd? for the disks, of course. From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Tue Jul 20 17:42:59 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:42:59 -0300 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <20040720172418.GA3088@mtranch.mtranch.com> References: <1090314388.10123.9.camel@Mars> <20040720172418.GA3088@mtranch.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <40FD59A3.8090207@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Not so. FC2 installed out of the box (so to speak) without a hitch > on my SATA/Promise MB. Needless to say, its been booting just fine > since then. It is true that SATA support was missing in FC1, as it > was first available in the 2.6 kernel. SATA drivers use /dev/sd? for > the disks, of course. BTW , what changed between FC2 and FC3T1 kernels regarding sata disks? On FC2 , I have to use the hd[efgh]=noprobe arguments or the system will take ages to boot (because it sits there waiting a timeout from the device), while on FC3 it isnt needed.... -- Pedro Macedo From tony at immunix.com Tue Jul 20 18:07:23 2004 From: tony at immunix.com (Tony Jones) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:07:23 -0700 Subject: Yum upgrade from FC2 to FC3 possible? In-Reply-To: <1089986314.18421.239.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <20040715231609.GA6227@immunix.com> <1089934445.2768.26.camel@T7.linux> <20040716001120.GB6530@immunix.com> <1089986314.18421.239.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20040720180723.GA22682@immunix.com> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 09:58:34AM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: Hey Phil. Thanks for the reply. > It appears that you are running the ancient FC2T1 (1.90). You would > have to replace "$releasever" with the desired number (2.90 for FC3T1) > in Paul's yum.conf; however, to upgrade to development/rawhide/test- > release I would not include anything but [development] in any case. Thanks, this is what I thought. One person told me I needed based, but I was ticking along just fine with [development] only, albeit, as you say a long while ago. > > If I comment out everything but the [development] section from your > > config file I get the same crash as before: [snip] > Try "rm -rf /var/cache/yum/*" (or "mv /var/cache/yum /var/cache/ First thing I tried long long ago, made no diff. Just did it again, still made no diff. It of course still reports "Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree" in the Server: output line, but this comes from the "name=" line in the config file. Replacing $releasever with a literal 2.90 causes the right output but still the same error ... no surprises there. I'm assuming the "unable to find pid" error is due to lack of cache, doesn't emit it second run, but still same Python abort. I'm guessing I may need to bootstrap this process by updating yum manually? Tony [root at dougal tony]# cat yum.conf [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=fedora-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 #[base] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-$releasever #[updates-released] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-$releasever #[updates-testing] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development/i386 [root at dougal tony]# yum -c yum.conf update Unable to find pid Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 253, in main clientStuff.download_headers(HeaderInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 919, in download_headers cachedbdict = returnCacheDBHeaders(nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 901, in returnCacheDBHeaders mi = cachedb.dbMatch() UnboundLocalError: local variable 'cachedb' referenced before assignment From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 20 18:24:11 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:24:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Yum upgrade from FC2 to FC3 possible? In-Reply-To: <20040720180723.GA22682@immunix.com> References: <20040715231609.GA6227@immunix.com> <1089934445.2768.26.camel@T7.linux> <20040716001120.GB6530@immunix.com> <1089986314.18421.239.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040720180723.GA22682@immunix.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Tony Jones wrote: > It of course still reports "Fedora Core 1.90 - Development Tree" in the > Server: output line, but this comes from the "name=" line in the config > file. Replacing $releasever with a literal 2.90 causes the right output > but still the same error ... no surprises there. the 1.90 comes from fedora-release package. You could do: cat /etc/fedora-release rpm -q fedora-release > > I'm assuming the "unable to find pid" error is due to lack of cache, > doesn't emit it second run, but still same Python abort. Its a yum lock file issue. Previous run left the lock file - but there was no running process - hence the message. > > I'm guessing I may need to bootstrap this process by updating yum manually? You could verify if you have a proper working yum - and perhaps update to the latest verson - and try again: rpm -q python yum rpm -V python yum > [root at dougal tony]# cat yum.conf the yum.conf file looks ok to me. So there is some python/yum error thats causing you grief.. Satish From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 20 20:34:56 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:34:56 -0500 Subject: rpm -vhF foomatic fails In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:22:31 -0500 (CDT)") References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: > BTW: you could have just used yum. for eg - on FC2: > > [root at localhost root]# yum -c /etc/yum.conf.dev upgrade foomatic > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Rawhide Development What does that yum.conf look like to find `Rawhide Development'? From si at bananas.hopto.org Tue Jul 20 20:48:00 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:48:00 +0100 Subject: PHP5 Message-ID: <40FD8500.5070702@bananas.hopto.org> Ello, Is there any chance that PHP5 will be included in FC3, as 5 is now in it's final release. Cheers, From mark at harddata.com Tue Jul 20 20:53:17 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:53:17 -0600 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <20040720172418.GA3088@mtranch.mtranch.com> References: <1090314388.10123.9.camel@Mars> <20040720172418.GA3088@mtranch.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <200407201453.17427.mark@harddata.com> On July 20, 2004 11:24 am, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > ?It is true that SATA support was missing in FC1, as it was first ? > available in the 2.6 kernel. ?SATA drivers use /dev/sd? for the disks, ? > of course. This isn't strictly true. Some SATA drivers were available in the 2.4 Kernel and RedHat Enterprise 3.0 came with Silicon Image 3112 support though I am not sure you could install to it. As for drive letter assignment that depends on the SATA controller. The promise you have appears to the system as a SCSI device and thus uses /dev/sd? lettering. However my VIA SATA controller appears as an ide device. This is with both controllers being supported via libata. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From ba at linuxin.dk Tue Jul 20 21:09:10 2004 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:09:10 +0200 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <20040720172418.GA3088@mtranch.mtranch.com> References: <1090314388.10123.9.camel@Mars> <20040720172418.GA3088@mtranch.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <1090357750.3156.6.camel@Mars> You missed the point. I have 2 disks. One primary boot device /dev/sda and a secondary IDE /dev/hda. Fedora Core 1 and 2 both support my SATA disk, but the bootloader will be installed on /dev/hda, with hda as primary boot device, if you have an hda harddisk installed. Regards Bjorn Andersen On tir, 2004-07-20 at 10:24 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > Since Fedora Core 1 and the support of SATA disks there haw been a > > problem in detection of standard boot device. > > The Fedora installer dont detect what device the bios will boot on. > > Annaconda standard boot on /dev/hda if it is present, but the people > > that have a SATA disk as primary boot device, will have to switch the > > boot loader to that device. If not, the bootloader will not boot, > > because it is set on hda (the secondary harddisk). > > Not so. FC2 installed out of the box (so to speak) without a hitch on > my SATA/Promise MB. Needless to say, its been booting just fine since > then. It is true that SATA support was missing in FC1, as it was first > available in the 2.6 kernel. SATA drivers use /dev/sd? for the disks, > of course. > > From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 20 21:16:10 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: rpm -vhF foomatic fails In-Reply-To: References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Satish Balay writes: > >> BTW: you could have just used yum. for eg - on FC2: >> >> [root at localhost root]# yum -c /etc/yum.conf.dev upgrade foomatic >> Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) >> Server: Rawhide Development > > What does that yum.conf look like to find `Rawhide Development'? My /etc/yum.conf just points to FC2 repositories. I use a separate /etc/yum.conf.dev (useable with -c) - if I want to pick up selected packages from rawhide. (similarlry for other 3rd party repositories - for eg: dag etc..) Satish ------------- [balay at localhost balay]$ cat /etc/yum.conf.dev [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=fedora-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 keepalive=0 exclude=rpmdb-fedora [development] name=Rawhide Development baseurl=http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386 From tony at immunix.com Tue Jul 20 21:21:56 2004 From: tony at immunix.com (Tony Jones) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:21:56 -0700 Subject: Yum upgrade from FC2 to FC3 possible? In-Reply-To: References: <20040715231609.GA6227@immunix.com> <1089934445.2768.26.camel@T7.linux> <20040716001120.GB6530@immunix.com> <1089986314.18421.239.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040720180723.GA22682@immunix.com> Message-ID: <20040720212156.GA6340@immunix.com> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 01:24:11PM -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > You could verify if you have a proper working yum - and perhaps update to > the latest > verson - and try again: > > rpm -q python yum > rpm -V python yum rpm verifies were ok. upgrading to latest dev yum fixed issue. Thanks for everyones help! Cheers tony From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 20 21:30:56 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:30:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: pine line merges [Was: rpm -vhF foomatic fails] In-Reply-To: References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > [balay at localhost balay]$ cat /etc/yum.conf.dev [main] I hate it when 'pine-4.60' automatically merges lines. This didn't happen in 4.58. The above was supporsed to be 2 different lines. Anyone know what flag I can use to turn off this auto-formatting-text feature? I use emacs as editor in pine.. I use some of the new features in 4.60 - so I can't downgrade :( Satish From mfedyk at matchmail.com Mon Jul 19 22:30:35 2004 From: mfedyk at matchmail.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:30:35 -0700 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040720204036.0138754CEFD@plmssa02.academy.com> Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing > lists for testing have always been very lively, until this release. > There seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community > developers responding. Is that just my false impression? Because there's so many talking about it in the releases list (fedora-list) instead. A linux newbie told me he thought it was funny when he saw a reply who's contents was entirely "please take this to fedora-test-list"... -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From jreiser at BitWagon.com Mon Jul 19 22:51:35 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:51:35 -0700 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040720204058.A124554CFCE@plmssa02.academy.com> > <3>Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 161345 > <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete > Error } > <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): errir=0x30 > <4>end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 1290776 > > There are several more of these type messages each with the logical > block and sector incremented by one. Assume this is FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso, whose length is 660889600 bytes. [If it is really -disc2.iso, with length 669511680 bytes, then the entire rest of _this_ message DOES NOT APPLY.] Look at this section of "od -c -Ax FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso | more", which occurs within the first couple screenfuls: ----- 008370 360 001 \0 I S O M D 5 S U M = 008380 d 0 2 d d a d 1 2 8 4 b b 9 1 4 008390 3 f 2 9 2 c 6 4 0 e b 4 b 6 b 8 0083a0 ; S K I P S E C T O R S = 1 0083b0 5 ; R H L I S O S T A T U S = 0 0083c0 ; T H I S I S N O T T H E 0083d0 S A M E A S R U N N I N G 0083e0 M D 5 S U M O N T H I S 0083f0 I S O ! ! ----- Notice the "SKIPSECTORS = 15;" which [probably] means that the last 15 (either IDE 512-byte disk sectors, or 2K-byte CD-ROM physical blocks) should not be included in the _internal_ md5sum (which is not the same as the md5sum of the whole .iso file). This is from the "-pad" commandline argument to mkisofs. From the last console message: Assume "sector 1290776" means "IDE 512-byte sector 1290776". Then 1290776 corresponds to byte 1290776 * 512 = 660,877,312, which is 12,288 bytes short of the end of the .iso file. That 12,288 bytes is within the 15 * 2048 byte -pad region. So probably that particular error can be ignored, on the basis that the error arose by reading beyond the physical end of data, when mediacheck was reading 30 * 2K bytes at a time as an efficiency hack. The blocks that correspond to the data that the installer will use, should be OK. I don't know how to interpret "<3>Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 161345" which may be from much earlier, or even from a different CD-ROM. -- -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 19 23:01:41 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:01:41 -0400 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040720204155.906B654C590@plmssa02.academy.com> Jason Dravet wrote: > I am getting the following messages on one of the other screens (Alt-F4). > > <3>Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 161345 > <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete > Error } > <4>hdd: media error (bad sector): errir=0x30 > <4>end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 1290776 > > There are several more of these type messages each with the logical > block and sector incremented by one. > > I have tried different media and different isos. Each ISO's md5sum > matches the md5sum at download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/etc... > > If I can get access to it, I might be able to try a second burrner. > > Jason > This problem sounds familiar. I did not get any media errors personally with any of the discs. Did you try the hdd=nodma or whatever the option to turn off dma for the CDROM might be? I did have mediacheck problems on an old Toshiba laptop a long time ago. There were not any media errors on the computer that I burned the discs on, but the discs still seemed muddied. This was back on RHL8.0 to Phoebe. These problems don't seem to be around any longer. What method are you using to burn the CDs. I burned mine from nautilus with the highlight iso file, then right click and choose write to CD. I used the CDs on about 5 real computers and one virtual computer. Jim -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From dravet at hotmail.com Tue Jul 20 00:24:11 2004 From: dravet at hotmail.com (Jason Dravet) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:24:11 -0500 Subject: anyone else having mediacheck problems with FC3t1 images? Message-ID: <20040720204445.2C55A54C222@plmssa02.academy.com> The CD I was describing was FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso. At this time I only have a Windows XP partition. I switched PCs a couple weeks ago and I only had time to install XP. I also saw shortly after that FC3 test1 would be out soon so I decided to wait for FC3-test1 for the install. I burned the isos using a fully patched XP Pro system with ISO Recorder from http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm. It is funny that DMA should be mentioned. I just turn it on for the zip drive and CD-ROM this afternoon. I turned DMA on after I burned the replacement CDs. I will try re-burnning the CDs tomorrow. Thanks, Jason _________________________________________________________________ Overwhelmed by debt? Find out how to ?Dig Yourself Out of Debt? from MSN Money. http://special.msn.com/money/0407debt.armx -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Tue Jul 20 00:37:46 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:37:46 -0400 Subject: Turn of SELinux In-Reply-To: <40FC4234.60606@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040720204526.9136B54D3B6@plmssa02.academy.com> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 16:50 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > Tim Raats wrote: > > How do I disable SELinux or even remove it ? > > > > > You can disable it by appending selinux=0 to the kernel line in > /etc/grub.conf. and/or... # cat >/etc/sysconfig/selinux SELINUX=disabled ctrl-d -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 20 21:54:13 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:54:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: pine line merges [Was: rpm -vhF foomatic fails] In-Reply-To: References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > > > [balay at localhost balay]$ cat /etc/yum.conf.dev [main] > > I hate it when 'pine-4.60' automatically merges lines. This didn't > happen in 4.58. The above was supporsed to be 2 different lines. > > Anyone know what flag I can use to turn off this auto-formatting-text > feature? I use emacs as editor in pine.. > > I use some of the new features in 4.60 - so I can't downgrade :( Ok - I found the pine option to enable: quell-flowed-text Satish From ckunkel at been-there.com Tue Jul 20 01:31:30 2004 From: ckunkel at been-there.com (Clyde E. Kunkel) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:31:30 -0400 Subject: Good Install of FC3T1 - So Far Message-ID: <20040720204733.15C9154D5B3@plmssa02.academy.com> Did a clean install except for /boot partition. No problems with media checks all 4 discs. Used same device as burned the ISOs--Sony DVD RW DRU-530A. First minor problem was KVM crazy mouse--plugged a separate mouse in directly to PS/2 port to get thru install. Had tried to use psmouse.proto=imps at inital boot: prompt, but wouldn't take. Had to wait for install to finish. My Firewire drive and USB drive are both seen, can't mount yet since they are NTFS spindles. Disabled selinux during install. Only other current problem is SAMBA. Get following errors when executing system-config-samba: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/system-config-samba.py", line 38, in ? mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag) File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 75, in __init__ self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self) File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 40, in __init__ self.parseFile() File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 71, in parseFile token = self.createToken(line) File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 143, in createToken token = sambaToken.SambaToken (sambaToken.SambaToken.SAMBA_TOKEN_KEYVAL, (name, value), self.parent) File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaToken.py", line 36, in __init__ raise AttributeError, value AttributeError: ('cups options', 'raw') Couldn't find anything in bugzilla, still looking in archives. Anyone seen anything like this? Continuing with testing.... -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Jul 20 01:37:08 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:37:08 -0400 Subject: Good Install of FC3T1 - So Far In-Reply-To: <1090287090.6598.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040720204739.35E4354D5E4@plmssa02.academy.com> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 09:31:30PM -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > Only other current problem is SAMBA. Get following errors when > executing system-config-samba: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/system-config-samba.py", line 38, > in ? > mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag) > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 75, in > __init__ > self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self) > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 40, in > __init__ > self.parseFile() > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 71, in > parseFile > token = self.createToken(line) > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 143, in > createToken token = sambaToken.SambaToken > (sambaToken.SambaToken.SAMBA_TOKEN_KEYVAL, (name, value), self.parent) > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaToken.py", line 36, in > __init__ > raise AttributeError, value > AttributeError: ('cups options', 'raw') > > Couldn't find anything in bugzilla, still looking in archives. Anyone > seen anything like this? > I've seen the same thing, have not yet bugzilla'd it. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 19 22:42:23 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:42:23 -0400 Subject: Why is this list so quiet? In-Reply-To: <40FABFC0.5040400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040720204755.DBCB754D5AC@plmssa02.academy.com> Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been testing RH/Fedora releases since RHL 7.3. The mailing lists > for testing have always been very lively, until this release. There > seem to be very few testers posting, and even fewer community developers > responding. Is that just my false impression? > > I'm concerned that this release and its successors will not receive > enough criticism to fix bugs that should be caught before the final > release of FC3. > > Gerry Tool > > The major issue that I heard from most people on the fedora-list were that they are downloading a lot of information to use for a short period of time. Another issue seems to be path from test release to final release is "not supported" and from one beta into another beta not being an "approved"upgrade path. Personally, I think their beta paychecks bounced. Except for vmware on an XP host not being bootable after an installation and the now solved buggy BIOS video problem, I think this is a pretty smooth beta release. The other bugs that were submitted seem to be resolved or being chased to squash. Except the vmware installation. Are vmware installations being considered and being persued? I know they are virtual machines, but have virtual hardware specs. Jim -- May you die in bed at 95, shot by a jealous spouse. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From dsavage at peaknet.net Tue Jul 20 02:06:32 2004 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:06:32 -0500 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <1089816789.2018.3.camel@saturn> Message-ID: <20040720204823.66C4F54D726@plmssa02.academy.com> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 09:53, Timothy Sandel wrote: > Is there any plans to implement the reiserfs into fc. I just installed > fc3-t1 and see it's still not there. I notice on average about a 50% > throughput increase on my linux workstations with this file system. On > top of that the recovery time on recovering the journal is a lot faster > too. > > Timothy As I hear it, until other filesystems add support for SELinux's EAs, you're pretty much "stuck" with ext3. Of course you can always disable SELinux and do your own thing with whatever fs you want. --Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 1 kernel 2.4.22-1.2197.nptl on P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Jul 20 02:21:38 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:21:38 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner In-Reply-To: <40F9F685.8020901@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040720204902.4E5B454D79D@plmssa02.academy.com> Gerry Tool wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Gerry Tool wrote: >> >>> New data from FC2 and FC3T1 >>> >>> USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC2 >>> >>> kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 >>> >>> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >>> usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >>> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage >>> usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using address 2 >>> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2 >>> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 >>> ========= >>> I believe 3-1 is the scanner since I have to chmod >>> /proc/bus/usb/003/002 in FC2 to get the scanner to work. >>> In addition to the scanner, my smartmedia card and my USB key show >>> up in Hardware Browser >>> ========= >>> >>> USB messages in /var/log/messages from bootup on FC3T1 >>> >>> kernel 2.6.7-1.488 >>> >>> usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using address 3 >>> usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >>> usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 >>> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage >>> drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for >>> Generic >>> usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic >>> usbcore: registered new driver usbserial >>> drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 >>> ========= >>> The numbers are different here than in FC2. The scanner is not to >>> be found by root with sane-find-scanner, but the smartmedia card and >>> USB key do show up in hardware browser. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >> >> It looks to me that the 3 and 2 from FC2 are correct. What confuses >> this novice is the absence of a 3 in FC3T1 and having the usbserial >> driver added for your system. (no serial USB before) - My guess is >> that with the comparison between FC2 and FC3 test, you have a real >> bug on your hands. >> >> I trimmed out the date information in hopes of this making more sense >> to me. >> >> I also ran the hardware browser and my scanner was recognized under >> system devices. This is without plugging and unplugging the USB port >> to the scanner. >> >> If it is not in the HW browser, it is a bug. :-) > > > I filed a bug report #128108 about the scanner not showing up. > > Gerry > > kernel 2.6.7-1.494 has fixed this problem for me. Gerry -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 20 22:03:54 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:03:54 -0500 Subject: Advice to swithc to xorg from XFree86-4.3.0-59 Message-ID: I'd like to finally make the switch from XFree to xorg at this late date. Its starting to cause too many dependancy problems with updates or yum. Like updating to newest mozilla, dependancy problems crop up. I've gotten along for quite some time with `rpm [Ui]vh --nodeps' on some updates I thought would work like that, but need to get this cleaned up. The trouble is I don't want to go the clean install route. Its just too many tweaks and customizations involved on my main box. I'm supposedly running fed2t1: cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release 1.90 (FC2 Test 1) But am actually running many rawhide packages. Its been going on so long now that I don't even know for sure what is running from rawhide anymore. So cutting to the chase... and understanding my predicament is due to sloth (that is, of my own making)... can someone help me devise a stategy to get rid of XFree and get started running xorg in a manner likely to leave me with an operable OS. If I loose X for awhile that is not a big problem as I'm comfortable in text mode. It does get to be a drag trying to browse quickly on line in text but I can manage all config etc from the command line. I really doubt it could be as easy as: rpm -e --nodeps 'XFree' then yum install xorg-x11. I tried that last part to see what would happen, and yum tells me: yum install xorg-x11 Unable to find pid Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Rawhide Development Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .Package XFree86-tools needs XFree86, this is not available. Package XFree86-twm needs XFree86, this is not available. Package XFree86-Xnest needs XFree86 = 4.3.0-59, this is not available. Package XFree86-xdm needs XFree86 = 4.3.0, this is not available. All those packages are actually installed but that isn't the goal. rpm -qa|grep XFree: XFree86-tools-4.3.0-59 XFree86-xauth-4.3.0-59 XFree86-4.3.0-59 XFree86-base-fonts-4.3.0-59 XFree86-truetype-fonts-4.3.0-59 XFree86-xdm-4.3.0-59 XFree86-Mesa-libGLU-4.3.0-59 XFree86-Mesa-libGL-4.3.0-59 XFree86-font-utils-4.3.0-59 XFree86-libs-data-4.3.0-59 XFree86-twm-4.3.0-59 XFree86-xfs-4.3.0-59 XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.3.0-59 XFree86-Xnest-4.3.0-59 XFree86-devel-4.3.0-59 XFree86-libs-4.3.0-59 XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.3.0-59 So that route looks fraught with troubles. I wonder how it would go if I did `rpm -e --nodeps' all XFree pkgs first. But would like to hear some input before taking the leap. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 20 02:55:19 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:55:19 -0400 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner - kernel *.494, now it works again. In-Reply-To: <40FC81B2.5030606@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040720205038.640EA54D8DA@plmssa02.academy.com> Gerry Tool wrote: >> >> I filed a bug report #128108 about the scanner not showing up. >> >> Gerry >> >> > kernel 2.6.7-1.494 has fixed this problem for me. > > Gerry > > Did the kernel change your usb devices to be the same as for FC2? Or are the reports pretty much similar to what was posted before? I guess it does not matter! One bug squashed! Now this kernel version, is this from Arjan's 2.6 kernel directory. I still show kernel-2.6.7-1.492 as the latest version. Jim -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From barryn at pobox.com Tue Jul 20 03:26:21 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:26:21 -0700 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <1090289191.4306.26.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <20040720205126.080BC54D983@plmssa02.academy.com> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 09:06:32PM -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > As I hear it, until other filesystems add support for SELinux's EAs, > you're pretty much "stuck" with ext3. Of course you can always disable > SELinux and do your own thing with whatever fs you want. ext2 and xfs also have (working) support for the SELinux EA's, as of the FC2 release. The FC2 update kernels added (broken) reiserfs support for the SELinux EA's. For JFS, IIRC there's a patch floating around that extends its EA support to be SELinux-compatible, but it hasn't been committed upstream to the best of my knowledge. For reiserfs, the bugs in the EA support are being worked on upstream. -Barry K. Nathan -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From barryn at pobox.com Tue Jul 20 03:29:03 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:29:03 -0700 Subject: Failed hard disk install In-Reply-To: <40FBAE9C.6040302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040720205129.6787B54D99C@plmssa02.academy.com> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Related to a vfat failure, I could not assign a mount to a vfat > partition. This worked in FC2. > > I added info to the report that related to vfat failures during install. > > Trying to mount a vfat partition during install such as /mnt/vfat will > halt the installer with an error. Does this still happen with an FC-devel snapshot from 20040714 or later? -Barry K. Nathan -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 20 22:10:46 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:10:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Advice to swithc to xorg from XFree86-4.3.0-59 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > I'd like to finally make the switch from XFree to xorg at this late > date. Its starting to cause too many dependancy problems with updates > or yum. Like updating to newest mozilla, dependancy problems crop > up. > > I've gotten along for quite some time with `rpm [Ui]vh --nodeps' on > some updates I thought would work like that, but need to get this > cleaned up. The trouble is I don't want to go the clean install > route. you should do 'yum upgrade' - and it should take care of obsoletes XFree86 -> xorg etc.. If there are more dependency problems - remove packages (with yum remove) that are causing the conflicts - and try 'yum upgrade' again Satish From gstool at earthlink.net Tue Jul 20 03:42:15 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:42:15 -0500 Subject: fc3t1 can't find usb scanner - kernel *.494, now it works again. In-Reply-To: <40FC8997.8090502@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040720205146.D3DBB54DA02@plmssa02.academy.com> Jim Cornette wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: > >>> >>> I filed a bug report #128108 about the scanner not showing up. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >> kernel 2.6.7-1.494 has fixed this problem for me. >> >> Gerry >> >> > > Did the kernel change your usb devices to be the same as for FC2? Or > are the reports pretty much similar to what was posted before? The new messages entries for usb are much more similar to the FC2 entries than the previous FC3t1 entries > > I guess it does not matter! One bug squashed! > > Now this kernel version, is this from Arjan's 2.6 kernel directory. I > still show kernel-2.6.7-1.492 as the latest version. I just installed it from current updates. Try checking for new updates to find it. Gerry -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 03:43:01 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:43:01 +0700 Subject: Package building and alternate kernels (Re: Why is this list so Message-ID: <20040720205149.2805C54D862@plmssa02.academy.com> Reading a recent post in fedora-test-list on the lack of testers for FC3t1 reminded me of a wishlist I had had ever since I tried using Fink on Mac OS X. What we are missing at the moment in Fedora is an easier way to rebuild packages from source. Not advocating an optimize-like-hell approach like Gentoo's, but more the approach of Fink or the *BSDs; i.e. being able to issue a command like 'yum build foo' which will check all the build requirements of package foo, and for those not found, download the source packages, rebuild them, and install them automagically behind the scenes.* (* I believe Debian does that also, but I can't remember) With Fedora Core releases happening every six months, people with a lot of non-Core packages installed would appreciate being able to quickly rebuild their packages to check for errors, IMHO. Mach might be able to do this, but unfortunately I'm on a metered connection right now and could not try it until next month. Which sadly rules me out of the test periods, so apologies if I introduce suggestions that have already been implemented or seem naive. Another thing is to provide alternate kernel images. Not just various recompiles of the same kernel versions as FC currently does, but older kernels as well for compatibility reasons. It would be especially nice if this could be integrated into Anaconda but really, people who need older kernels could dig up the RPM from the installation media unless the standard kernel is unbootable. In my case, for example, the last kernel to support my external Firewire/USB drive is kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 from FC2t2 (IIRC). Just my 2 cents, - Michel -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Tue Jul 20 04:13:18 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:13:18 -0400 Subject: cdrecord fails with "Floating Point Exception" Message-ID: <20040720205256.580DB54C689@plmssa02.academy.com> I've just bugzilla'd this (under cdrtools component) with the command output and a core dump available via an http link to my machine. Bug #128206 -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue Jul 20 22:25:33 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:25:33 +0200 Subject: pine line merges [Was: rpm -vhF foomatic fails] In-Reply-To: References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040721002533.44914916.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:54:13 -0500 (CDT), Satish Balay wrote: > > > [balay at localhost balay]$ cat /etc/yum.conf.dev [main] > > > > I hate it when 'pine-4.60' automatically merges lines. This didn't > > happen in 4.58. The above was supporsed to be 2 different lines. > > > > Anyone know what flag I can use to turn off this auto-formatting-text > > feature? I use emacs as editor in pine.. > > > > I use some of the new features in 4.60 - so I can't downgrade :( > > Ok - I found the pine option to enable: > > quell-flowed-text Note that your message arrived fine here without the described reformatting bug. Hence it must be a _display_ feature in PINE which is only visible at your end. -- Fedora Core release 1 (Yarrow) - Linux 2.4.22-1.2197.nptl From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 20 22:33:30 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:33:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: pine line merges [Was: rpm -vhF foomatic fails] In-Reply-To: <20040721002533.44914916.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> <20040721002533.44914916.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:54:13 -0500 (CDT), Satish Balay wrote: > > > > > [balay at localhost balay]$ cat /etc/yum.conf.dev [main] > Note that your message arrived fine here without the described > reformatting bug. Hence it must be a _display_ feature in PINE which is > only visible at your end. Well the archives show that the 2 lines are merged.. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-July/msg00390.html the pine bug (rather feature) is 'if there is a space at the end of the line - it means line continuation' This bit me with copy/paste from xterms. When using tab completion in bash - it adds an extra space at the end of the command. Satish From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Tue Jul 20 07:44:38 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:44:38 +0100 Subject: Yet another FC3 wishlist In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0407192057233dcd6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040720210018.AF35F54E0D6@plmssa02.academy.com> --===============0318287940== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Zjcn091rjUhM/YRCG8ik" --=-Zjcn091rjUhM/YRCG8ik Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 10:57 +0700, Michel Salim wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Would it be possible to include support for the Intel Pro Wireless > 2100 and 2200 wireless cards? (The drivers are available at > ipw2100.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net respectively) >=20 > Most Centrino laptops come with either of these cards, so it would be > a nice addition. There might be license problems with bundling the > binary firmware, but it is packaged separately from the drivers and > from SuSE 9.1 install reports it seems that SuSE just bundles the > drivers and tell their users to get the firmware themselves. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > - Michel You may want to include this as a request for enhancement, or what ever it is called in bugzilla, you may have slightly more luck (and post a link when you mention it on here to also make it easier for developers. --=20 Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 --=-Zjcn091rjUhM/YRCG8ik Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBA/M1mOD4tuWkUwhoRAtVAAJ9PCXxDgVHqFlUJGoePDshUv5dHCwCcCWZu o+571QQdWpx6gPTphqSM1BY= =22Lk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Zjcn091rjUhM/YRCG8ik-- --===============0318287940== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list --===============0318287940==-- From ba at linuxin.dk Tue Jul 20 09:06:28 2004 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:06:28 +0200 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 Message-ID: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> Hi Since Fedora Core 1 and the support of SATA disks there haw been a problem in detection of standard boot device. The Fedora installer dont detect what device the bios will boot on. Annaconda standard boot on /dev/hda if it is present, but the people that have a SATA disk as primary boot device, will have to switch the boot loader to that device. If not, the bootloader will not boot, because it is set on hda (the secondary harddisk). It would be a god idea to have Anaconda detect what primary bootdevice from the bios. (like SuSE) I have seen a lot of frustrated newbees telling me that Fedora 2 dont support SATA disks, and thats a shame. Regards Bjorn Andersen -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 20 22:49:50 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:49:50 -0500 Subject: Advice to swithc to xorg from XFree86-4.3.0-59 In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:10:46 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: > you should do 'yum upgrade' - and it should take > care of obsoletes XFree86 -> xorg etc.. > > If there are more dependency problems - remove packages (with yum > remove) that are causing the conflicts - and try 'yum upgrade' again Before you showed me how to set up yum.conf. I attempted to get it to go to the right tree by editing /etc/fedora-release. Now when I run yum upgrade as suggested it errors out on the release. yum upgrade Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Rawhide Development Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Finding obsoleted packages Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 260, in main obsoleting, obsoleted = clientStuff.returnObsoletes(HeaderInfo, rpmDBInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 286, in returnObsoletes rc = rpmUtils.compareEVR((e1, v1, r1), (obe, obv, obr)) File "/usr/share/yum/rpmUtils.py", line 121, in compareEVR rc = rpm.labelCompare((e1, v1, r1), (e2, v2, r2)) rpm.error: Invalid version or release - possibly None I tried setting the file back to original state but yum isn't buying it. Finally I tried installing the fedora-release in rawhide. Still yum errors out on release problem. Finally I tried updating to most recent yum, but it still errors out on `release'. Any idea how I can fix that and get on trying the upgrade? From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 10:28:00 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:28:00 +0700 Subject: Yet another FC3 wishlist In-Reply-To: <1090309478.8585.21.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <20040720210524.DB21D54E726@plmssa02.academy.com> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:44:38 +0100, Douglas Furlong wrote: > > > > Would it be possible to include support for the Intel Pro Wireless > > 2100 and 2200 wireless cards? (The drivers are available at > > ipw2100.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net respectively) > > > You may want to include this as a request for enhancement, or what ever > it is called in bugzilla, you may have slightly more luck (and post a > link when you mention it on here to also make it easier for developers. > Sure; I just thought I'd sound it off first in the mailing list, especially since I'm unable to run the latest kernels and so would not know if the modules are already integrated. Bug report available here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128218 Regards, - Michel -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 20 11:16:52 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:16:52 -0400 Subject: Failed hard disk install In-Reply-To: <20040720032903.GB3902@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> Message-ID: <20040720210642.49BAB54E877@plmssa02.academy.com> Barry K. Nathan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Related to a vfat failure, I could not assign a mount to a vfat >>partition. This worked in FC2. >> >>I added info to the report that related to vfat failures during install. >> >>Trying to mount a vfat partition during install such as /mnt/vfat will >>halt the installer with an error. > > > Does this still happen with an FC-devel snapshot from 20040714 or later? > > -Barry K. Nathan > > This vfat problem happened on a machine that I setup at work. Since this problem was easy to simulate. (just trying to mount a vfat partition during install / upgrade, pass or fail) I decided to wait for the FC3T2 CD to come out. I don't have any vfat partitions on any of the other test machines. I could probably try an ftp install and designate a mini partition as vfat to ensure that the bug was fixed in rawhide. I might give this a shot soon. I was going to try a clean install w/ selinux enabled next. I'm curious as to how the work has proceeded since FC2tests. Jim -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From russell at coker.com.au Tue Jul 20 05:17:55 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:17:55 +1000 Subject: reiserfs In-Reply-To: <1090289191.4306.26.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <20040720210710.B923454E655@plmssa02.academy.com> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:06, "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" wrote: > As I hear it, until other filesystems add support for SELinux's EAs, > you're pretty much "stuck" with ext3. Of course you can always disable > SELinux and do your own thing with whatever fs you want. XFS should work fine with SE Linux. Make sure you use the option "-i size=512" for mkfs.xfs to get best performance and space use. Otherwise an extra 4K block will be allocated for each file which will waste heaps of disk space and some performance. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From naheemzaffar at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 11:53:27 2004 From: naheemzaffar at gmail.com (Naheem Zaffar) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:53:27 +0100 Subject: Failed hard disk install In-Reply-To: <40FCFF24.3010107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040720210732.9822A54E9BF@plmssa02.academy.com> I also had a crash at mount time when trying to mount NTFS (I used the tutorial at linux ntfs to make the rpm and installed it). I used yum to move from FC2 to FC3t1. On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:16:52 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Barry K. Nathan wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >>Related to a vfat failure, I could not assign a mount to a vfat > >>partition. This worked in FC2. > >> > >>I added info to the report that related to vfat failures during install. > >> > >>Trying to mount a vfat partition during install such as /mnt/vfat will > >>halt the installer with an error. > > > > > > Does this still happen with an FC-devel snapshot from 20040714 or later? > > > > -Barry K. Nathan > > > > > > This vfat problem happened on a machine that I setup at work. Since this > problem was easy to simulate. (just trying to mount a vfat partition > during install / upgrade, pass or fail) I decided to wait for the FC3T2 > CD to come out. I don't have any vfat partitions on any of the other > test machines. > I could probably try an ftp install and designate a mini partition as > vfat to ensure that the bug was fixed in rawhide. > I might give this a shot soon. I was going to try a clean install w/ > selinux enabled next. I'm curious as to how the work has proceeded since > FC2tests. > > Jim > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From dima at mailvision.net Tue Jul 20 13:32:08 2004 From: dima at mailvision.net (Dima Gutzeit) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:32:08 +0300 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 Message-ID: <20040720210953.B935154EDC2@plmssa02.academy.com> I have a question regarding this issue ... Today I've installed FC2 on computer with SATA as the only harddisk. For the installation matter I've connected a CDROM to ide interface. The installation went just ok, but now the computer refuses to boot if I detach the cdrom drive. It does not matter what cd is in, with cdrom attached it books OK from SATA drive , but when detaching the device it fails with : Kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root on unknown-block(0,0) Anyone has a solution for it ? Thanks in advance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bjorn Andersen" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:06 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 > Hi > > Since Fedora Core 1 and the support of SATA disks there haw been a > problem in detection of standard boot device. > The Fedora installer dont detect what device the bios will boot on. > Annaconda standard boot on /dev/hda if it is present, but the people > that have a SATA disk as primary boot device, will have to switch the > boot loader to that device. If not, the bootloader will not boot, > because it is set on hda (the secondary harddisk). > > It would be a god idea to have Anaconda detect what primary bootdevice > from the bios. (like SuSE) > > I have seen a lot of frustrated newbees telling me that Fedora 2 dont > support SATA disks, and thats a shame. > > > > Regards > Bjorn Andersen > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue Jul 20 23:11:50 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 01:11:50 +0200 Subject: pine line merges [Was: rpm -vhF foomatic fails] In-Reply-To: References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> <20040721002533.44914916.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <20040721011150.078bc1c5.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:33:30 -0500 (CDT), Satish Balay wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:54:13 -0500 (CDT), Satish Balay wrote: > > > > > > > [balay at localhost balay]$ cat /etc/yum.conf.dev [main] > > > > > Note that your message arrived fine here without the described > > reformatting bug. Hence it must be a _display_ feature in PINE which is > > only visible at your end. > > Well the archives show that the 2 lines are merged.. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-July/msg00390.html Weird. Not here and not in the raw archive either: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-July.txt.gz > the pine bug (rather feature) is 'if there is a space at the end of > the line - it means line continuation' One thing for sure, it [PINE] didn't send the message like that, whether you believe me or not. ;o) -- Fedora Core release 1 (Yarrow) - Linux 2.4.22-1.2197.nptl From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 20 23:24:23 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:24:23 -0500 Subject: yumming from c2t1 to c3t1 [was] Re: Failed hard disk install In-Reply-To: <20040720210732.9822A54E9BF@plmssa02.academy.com> (Naheem Zaffar's message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:53:27 +0100") References: <20040720210732.9822A54E9BF@plmssa02.academy.com> Message-ID: Naheem Zaffar writes: > I used yum to move from FC2 to FC3t1. Can you describe briefly From bfox at redhat.com Tue Jul 20 14:38:01 2004 From: bfox at redhat.com (Brent Fox) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:38:01 -0400 Subject: Good Install of FC3T1 - So Far In-Reply-To: <20040720013708.GA20344@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <20040720211401.6B39B54F21F@plmssa02.academy.com> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 21:37, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 09:31:30PM -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > > Only other current problem is SAMBA. Get following errors when > > executing system-config-samba: > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/system-config-samba.py", line 38, > > in ? > > mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag) > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 75, in > > __init__ > > self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self) > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 40, in > > __init__ > > self.parseFile() > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 71, in > > parseFile > > token = self.createToken(line) > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 143, in > > createToken token = sambaToken.SambaToken > > (sambaToken.SambaToken.SAMBA_TOKEN_KEYVAL, (name, value), self.parent) > > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaToken.py", line 36, in > > __init__ > > raise AttributeError, value > > AttributeError: ('cups options', 'raw') > > > > Couldn't find anything in bugzilla, still looking in archives. Anyone > > seen anything like this? > > > I've seen the same thing, have not yet bugzilla'd it. Please bugzilla and attach your /etc/samba/smb.conf file. Thanks, Brent -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From walters at redhat.com Tue Jul 20 14:53:57 2004 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:53:57 -0400 Subject: TEST: gstreamer-0.8.3-2 & gstreamer-plugins-0.8.2-2 In-Reply-To: <1089212438.29706.6.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: <20040720211501.3C02354CA2F@plmssa02.academy.com> --===============1126844877== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+eGRVyhqmw25ta+rL8Z/" --=-+eGRVyhqmw25ta+rL8Z/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 11:00 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Due to the number of people who seem to be having trouble of various > sorts with GStreamer, I'd like to update the versions in FC2 to the > latest upstream versions, which should hopefully fix a lot of these > issues. Hi, I've now pushed gstreamer-plugins-0.8.2-2.1 which should fix the pausing issues in Rhythmbox. Please let me know if this works for you too, if there are no problems I'll finally get these updates out for real in the next few days :) --=-+eGRVyhqmw25ta+rL8Z/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBA/TIFOIkJWWp2WGURAgOjAJ9d+ZITBC+kv3Ea2uzqA2RG7yN/2gCdGpab yqPLt7sDRN5VyAw85u9V6No= =i43q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+eGRVyhqmw25ta+rL8Z/-- --===============1126844877== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list --===============1126844877==-- From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 20 15:46:30 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:46:30 -0500 Subject: rpm -vhF foomatic fails Message-ID: <20040720211844.B619F54F5DC@plmssa02.academy.com> rpm -qa|grep foomatic foomatic-3.0.1-2 rpm -vhF /mnt/exp/fed2/RPMS/foomatic-3.0.1-6.i386.rpm (That directory is my mirror of rawhide) /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory error: Failed dependencies: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.4) is needed by foomatic-3.0.1-6 I can't find any perl module by that name, but it doesn't really appear to be the package name anyway. It should be though shouldn't it? How might I track this dependency down without a name. I've tried all file names inside rpmdb-fedora-2-0.20040716.i386.rpm Which is the current rawhide pkg containing the full distro data base. I keep a list of all file names on hand so looked for `grep -e module_compat homemade_file.db' and come up with zip. What use is this reference and what does it point to? -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From twaugh at redhat.com Tue Jul 20 15:52:49 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:52:49 +0100 Subject: rpm -vhF foomatic fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040720211902.A789954F634@plmssa02.academy.com> --===============1756686794== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CpBQqYjq/d0HQTAP" Content-Disposition: inline --CpBQqYjq/d0HQTAP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:46:30AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > rpm -qa|grep foomatic > foomatic-3.0.1-2 >=20 > rpm -vhF /mnt/exp/fed2/RPMS/foomatic-3.0.1-6.i386.rpm > (That directory is my mirror of rawhide) >=20 > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such fil= e or directory > error: Failed dependencies: > perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.4) is needed by foomatic-3.0.1-6 >=20 > I can't find any perl module by that name, but it doesn't really > appear to be the package name anyway. It should be though shouldn't > it? How might I track this dependency down without a name. Install the rpmdb-fedora from rawhide and: rpm -q --redhatprovides 'perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.4)' You'll see that perl provides this. > What use is this reference and what does it point to? It is to make sure that you install the version of perl that is necessary for that compiled package. It dumps perl modules into the file system and the installed perl must be able to load them. Tim. */ --CpBQqYjq/d0HQTAP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/T/Q9gevn0C09XYRAt9oAKCnPy2d5ktIhlVEQ813S8gAiaeo2wCfcJt1 w0AOD3vHjmcMM0LR8pJEB4k= =XzVu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CpBQqYjq/d0HQTAP-- --===============1756686794== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list --===============1756686794==-- From tibbs at math.uh.edu Tue Jul 20 23:46:44 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 20 Jul 2004 18:46:44 -0500 Subject: pine line merges [Was: rpm -vhF foomatic fails] In-Reply-To: <20040721011150.078bc1c5.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> <20040721002533.44914916.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <20040721011150.078bc1c5.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: Umm, folks, look at the headers original message: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed so clients are supposed to wrap the lines themselves. Clients that don't support format=flowed will see the message with the line breaks as they were in the original message. - J< From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 20 23:56:41 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:56:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: pine line merges [Was: rpm -vhF foomatic fails] In-Reply-To: References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> <20040721002533.44914916.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <20040721011150.078bc1c5.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Umm, folks, look at the headers original message: > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > so clients are supposed to wrap the lines themselves. Clients that > don't support format=flowed will see the message with the line breaks > as they were in the original message. Yeah this makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. Satish From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Jul 21 00:07:27 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:07:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Advice to swithc to xorg from XFree86-4.3.0-59 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Before you showed me how to set up yum.conf. I attempted to get it > to go to the right tree by editing /etc/fedora-release. > I tried setting the file back to original state but yum isn't buying > it. Finally I tried installing the fedora-release in rawhide. > > Still yum errors out on release problem. Finally I tried updating to > most recent yum, but it still errors out on `release'. > > Any idea how I can fix that and get on trying the upgrade? Your setup looks extremely messy. Since you've manally changed /etc/fedora-release file - it was not updated (when you installed the new rpm) . You'll have to do something like: mv /etc/fedora-release.rpmnew /etc/fedora-release can you also do the following (and send the info)? rpm -q fedora-release rpm -V fedora-release Satish From reader at newsguy.com Wed Jul 21 01:39:47 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:39:47 -0500 Subject: Advice to swithc to xorg from XFree86-4.3.0-59 In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:07:27 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: [...] >> Any idea how I can fix that and get on trying the upgrade? > > Your setup looks extremely messy. Very observant... I've done everything but dump fresh garbage on it... > Since you've manally changed /etc/fedora-release file - it was not > updated (when you installed the new rpm) . You'll have to do something > like: > > mv /etc/fedora-release.rpmnew /etc/fedora-release That file never appeared here, probably because I moved it or renamed it before installing fedora-release from rawhide, so the pkg files would have been renewed; but for good measure: cd /etc/ rm *release* rm: remove regular file `fedora-release'? y rm: remove symbolic link `redhat-release'? y rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs \ /mnt/exp/fed2/RPMS/fedora-release-2-rawhide.noarch.rpm /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:fedora-release ########################################### [100%] cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release Rawhide (Rawhide) yum upgrade Unable to find pid Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Rawhide Development Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Finding obsoleted packages Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 30, in ? yummain.main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/yum/yummain.py", line 260, in main obsoleting, obsoleted = clientStuff.returnObsoletes(HeaderInfo, rpmDBInfo, nulist) File "/usr/share/yum/clientStuff.py", line 286, in returnObsoletes rc = rpmUtils.compareEVR((e1, v1, r1), (obe, obv, obr)) File "/usr/share/yum/rpmUtils.py", line 121, in compareEVR rc = rpm.labelCompare((e1, v1, r1), (e2, v2, r2)) rpm.error: Invalid version or release - possibly None > can you also do the following (and send the info)? > rpm -q fedora-release rpm -q fedora-release fedora-release-2-rawhide > rpm -V fedora-release rpm -V fedora-release /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 21 01:57:13 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:57:13 -0400 Subject: usb disk installations Message-ID: <40FDCD79.40403@sbcglobal.net> I attempted to install FC3T1 on a USB drive using expert mode. It seems that all the proper files installed on the disk. The disk is a laptop disk contained inside a usb - ATA adapter and seems to work with the proper modeles loaded. Are there any plans to get the module needed to mount USB disks loaded soon enough to be able to boot from these disks. My grub.conf file is in the attached file. There is a lot of interest in getting this concept to work. Thanks, Jim -- The duck hunter trained his retriever to walk on water..... "Notice anything?" the owner asked eagerly. "Yes," said his friend, "I see that fool dog of yours can't swim." -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: usb-grub.conf URL: From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Jul 21 02:06:55 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:06:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Advice to swithc to xorg from XFree86-4.3.0-59 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > > can you also do the following (and send the info)? > > > rpm -q fedora-release > > rpm -q fedora-release > fedora-release-2-rawhide > > > rpm -V fedora-release > > rpm -V fedora-release > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such > file or directory Ok - this package is fine - and shouldn't cause any grief. The next thing to check is if yum & python are fine (perhaps upgrade yum to the latest release version). rpm -q yum python rpm -V yum python Also - I'm guessing you are using the yum.conf I've posted earlier (which doesn't use $releasever or $basearch variables) but yum stumbles. If yum still doesn't work - I'll sugest using apt to fix things up. Satish From jkeating at j2solutions.net Wed Jul 21 02:51:58 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:51:58 -0700 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> Message-ID: <200407201951.58309.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 20 July 2004 02:06, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > Since Fedora Core 1 and the support of SATA disks there haw been a > problem in detection of standard boot device. > The Fedora installer dont detect what device the bios will boot on. > Annaconda standard boot on /dev/hda if it is present, but the people > that have a SATA disk as primary boot device, will have to switch the > boot loader to that device. If not, the bootloader will not boot, > because it is set on hda (the secondary harddisk). > > It would be a god idea to have Anaconda detect what primary bootdevice > from the bios. (like SuSE) What exactly are you talking about? Grub will be installed to the first harddrive detected. Be it a SCSI drive (/dev/sda or /dev/sdb or...) or a SATA disk (still could be /dev/sda or could be /dev/hdd or even /dev/hda) or a PATA disk (/dev/hda or /dev/hdb or...). All the different configs I've thrown at Fedora, anaconda will automagically install the boot loader on the correct drive. Perhaps you're doing something silly during the install to break this? - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/dpO4v2HLvE71NURAshBAJ95IQ+mH8+D/Qnp1zFPTC83oYh6sACeM5hr 0TedphsimLpBCnqtPu7TnW8= =+IV5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From reader at newsguy.com Wed Jul 21 02:50:47 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:50:47 -0500 Subject: Advice to swithc to xorg from XFree86-4.3.0-59 In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:06:55 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> > can you also do the following (and send the info)? >> >> > rpm -q fedora-release >> >> rpm -q fedora-release >> fedora-release-2-rawhide >> >> > rpm -V fedora-release >> >> rpm -V fedora-release >> /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such >> file or directory > > Ok - this package is fine - and shouldn't cause any grief. The next > thing to check is if yum & python are fine (perhaps upgrade yum to the > latest release version). > > rpm -q yum python > rpm -V yum python > Those check out: rpm -q yum python yum-2.0.7-3 python-2.3.3-2 rpm -V yum python /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory S.5....T c /etc/yum.conf I'm running latest yum as posted earlier. > Also - I'm guessing you are using the yum.conf I've posted earlier > (which doesn't use $releasever or $basearch variables) but yum > stumbles. Correct > If yum still doesn't work - I'll sugest using apt to fix things up. I've found by backing up to core 2 fedora-release*rpm and editing yum.conf like this: cat yum.conf [base] name=my starter base core 2 baseurl=ftp://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os Now suddenly `yum upgrade' is pulling down the *.hdr files, with no error yet. I'm wondering if there may be some error in rawhide channel itself. I had the rawhide fedora-release installed and aimed yum at fedora with your yum.conf,when I started getting that error. From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Jul 21 03:09:33 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:09:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Advice to swithc to xorg from XFree86-4.3.0-59 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Satish Balay writes: > > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > >> > can you also do the following (and send the info)? > >> > >> > rpm -q fedora-release > >> > >> rpm -q fedora-release > >> fedora-release-2-rawhide > >> > >> > rpm -V fedora-release > >> > >> rpm -V fedora-release > >> /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such > >> file or directory > > > > Ok - this package is fine - and shouldn't cause any grief. The next > > thing to check is if yum & python are fine (perhaps upgrade yum to the > > latest release version). > > > > rpm -q yum python > > rpm -V yum python > > > > Those check out: > rpm -q yum python > yum-2.0.7-3 > python-2.3.3-2 > > rpm -V yum python > /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory > S.5....T c /etc/yum.conf > > I'm running latest yum as posted earlier. > > > Also - I'm guessing you are using the yum.conf I've posted earlier > > (which doesn't use $releasever or $basearch variables) but yum > > stumbles. > > Correct > > > If yum still doesn't work - I'll sugest using apt to fix things up. > > I've found by backing up to core 2 fedora-release*rpm and editing yum.conf like this: > > cat yum.conf > [base] > name=my starter base core 2 > baseurl=ftp://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os > > Now suddenly `yum upgrade' is pulling down the *.hdr files, with no > error yet. > > I'm wondering if there may be some error in rawhide channel itself. > I had the rawhide fedora-release installed and aimed yum at fedora > with your yum.conf,when I started getting that error. Not sure whats hapenning here. I've installed yum-2.0.7-3 and fedora-release-2-rawhide with FC2 (python-2.3.3-6) - and yum doesn't misbehave with the yum.conf I've posted earlier. You could just change the baseurl to rawhide and try 'yum upgrade' again. For this you don't have to change fedora-release package. The only reason it matters to yum is to do the $releasever substitution in yum.conf. Satish From reader at newsguy.com Wed Jul 21 03:28:25 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:28:25 -0500 Subject: Advice to swithc to xorg from XFree86-4.3.0-59 In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:09:33 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: > Not sure whats hapenning here. I've installed yum-2.0.7-3 and > fedora-release-2-rawhide with FC2 (python-2.3.3-6) - and yum doesn't > misbehave with the yum.conf I've posted earlier. > > You could just change the baseurl to rawhide and try 'yum upgrade' > again. Strangely that works. At least it is downloading *.hdr files. First I retried with the posted yum.conf and I got the same error. The edited to be: [base] name=my Rawhide base baseurl=ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/i386 (note I used ftp instead of http) The only other differnce I see at a glance is your newer version of python. I'm at python-2.3.3-2 > For this you don't have to change fedora-release package. The only > reason it matters to yum is to do the $releasever substitution in > yum.conf. I didn't even need to jerk it around then... As of now yum is downloading headers from rawhide. That will be a long haul .. something like 2000 I think. I'm too tired to wait so will have to continure tomorrow... thanks for your patient help, and not saying too much about the mess I've made.... From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Wed Jul 21 03:55:08 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:55:08 -0300 Subject: Mailing list problems? Message-ID: <40FDE91C.5010606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Ok , I've seen it happen for two days already , have checked the archives and looks like I'm not going crazy... Did you guys notice that every post is being duplicated ? I've noticed it on fedora-test-list and I have the impression that the same thing is happening on fedora-list also... For example , the thread "rpm -vhF foomatic fails" has two entries on the archive with the same message ... Same thing happened with "SATA boot whish for FC3" ... But , the most weird thing is that it is not happening with all messages... -- Pedro Macedo (who thought he was going crazy seeing duplicated posts everywhere...) ** From dima at mailvision.net Wed Jul 21 05:41:38 2004 From: dima at mailvision.net (Dima Gutzeit) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:41:38 +0300 Subject: Boot from SATA drive References: <20040720210953.B935154EDC2@plmssa02.academy.com> Message-ID: <00f501c46ee5$6586dd80$1400a8c0@dima> Today I've installed FC2 on computer with SATA as the only harddisk. For the installation matter I've connected a CDROM to ide interface. The installation went just ok, but now the computer refuses to boot if I detach the cdrom drive. It does not matter what cd is in, with cdrom attached it books OK from SATA drive , but when detaching the device it fails with : Kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root on unknown-block(0,0) Anyone has a solution for it ? Thanks in advance. From markmc at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 06:15:38 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:15:38 +0100 Subject: Mailing list problems? In-Reply-To: <40FDE91C.5010606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40FDE91C.5010606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <1090390538.4206.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 04:55, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Ok , I've seen it happen for two days already , have checked the > archives and looks like I'm not going crazy... > Did you guys notice that every post is being duplicated ? Yes. No idea why, though. Cheers, Mark. From twaugh at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 08:49:45 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:49:45 +0100 Subject: rpm -vhF foomatic fails In-Reply-To: References: <20040720155249.GA8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040721084945.GC8175@redhat.com> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 12:22:31PM -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > > >Tim Waugh writes: > > > >>>What use is this reference and what does it point to? > >> > >>It is to make sure that you install the version of perl that is > >>necessary for that compiled package. It dumps perl modules into the > >>file system and the installed perl must be able to load them. > > > >Yup and thanks > > BTW: you could have just used yum. Or rpm's --aid option (with the rpmdb-fedora package installed). Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Wed Jul 21 09:18:01 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:18:01 +0200 Subject: Mailing list problems? In-Reply-To: <1090390538.4206.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <40FDE91C.5010606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <1090390538.4206.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040721111801.2d230aab.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:15:38 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 04:55, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > > Ok , I've seen it happen for two days already , have checked the > > archives and looks like I'm not going crazy... > > Did you guys notice that every post is being duplicated ? > > Yes. No idea why, though. Misconfigured amavisd at some recipients place at @academy.com which bounces messages back to the list. From the headers of some postings by @redhat.com people: Received: from plmssa02.academy.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (plmssa02.academy.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30350-24 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:25:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by plmssa02.academy.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 3C02354CA2F; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:15:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Colin Walters [...] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at academy.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on plmssa02.academy.com X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on FSNOTES/Academy(Release 6.0.2CF2|July 23, 2003) at 07/20/2004 06:28:18 PM, Serialize by Router on FSNOTES/Academy(Release 6.0.2CF2|July 23, 2003) at 07/20/2004 06:28:18 PM, Serialize complete at 07/20/2004 06:28:18 PM X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at academy.com From ba at linuxin.dk Wed Jul 21 10:32:46 2004 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:32:46 +0200 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <200407201951.58309.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> <200407201951.58309.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <1090405966.4321.16.camel@Mars> I have a Intel Perl motherboard with a 2.4 Intel P4, HT processor. One WD Raptor SATA as primary disk and one IDE Maxtor as primary IDE disk. GRUB is getting installed on /dev/hda but bios is booting on /dev/sda. If i change the bios to boot on /dev/hda (GRUB install) the system boots as it should from /dev/sda. In config advanced alternatives for boot loader in GRUB install, the hda is on top of sda and the GRUB will get installed on hda See the top line: http://www.linuxin.dk/pictures/fc211.jpg (sorry for the danish language) But the standard place for loading linux kernel is /dev/sda2 (my /boot partition) Im not doing any "silly" things to the installer. Choosing STANDARD all the way tru the installer, will not make the system boot. Regards Bjorn Andersen On tir, 2004-07-20 at 19:51 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 20 July 2004 02:06, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > > Since Fedora Core 1 and the support of SATA disks there haw been a > > problem in detection of standard boot device. > > The Fedora installer dont detect what device the bios will boot on. > > Annaconda standard boot on /dev/hda if it is present, but the people > > that have a SATA disk as primary boot device, will have to switch the > > boot loader to that device. If not, the bootloader will not boot, > > because it is set on hda (the secondary harddisk). > > > > It would be a god idea to have Anaconda detect what primary bootdevice > > from the bios. (like SuSE) > > What exactly are you talking about? Grub will be installed to the first > harddrive detected. Be it a SCSI drive (/dev/sda or /dev/sdb or...) or a > SATA disk (still could be /dev/sda or could be /dev/hdd or even /dev/hda) > or a PATA disk (/dev/hda or /dev/hdb or...). All the different configs > I've thrown at Fedora, anaconda will automagically install the boot loader > on the correct drive. Perhaps you're doing something silly during the > install to break this? > > - -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) > GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > > Was I helpful? Let others know: > http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFA/dpO4v2HLvE71NURAshBAJ95IQ+mH8+D/Qnp1zFPTC83oYh6sACeM5hr > 0TedphsimLpBCnqtPu7TnW8= > =+IV5 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From caolanm at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 11:11:00 2004 From: caolanm at redhat.com (Caolan McNamara) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:11:00 -0400 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 1 Test Update: abiword-2.0.1-2 Message-ID: <20040721111100.GA16637@devserv.devel.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-224 2004-07-21 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 1 Name : abiword Version : 2.0.1 Release : 2 Summary : The AbiWord word processor Description : AbiWord is a cross-platform Open Source word processor. The goal is to make AbiWord full-featured, and remain lean. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Security fix for abiword buffer overrun, if theres no problems I'll push RSN. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri Jul 16 2004 Caolan McNamara 1:2.0.1-2 - 2.0.1 + wv security fix --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ d75ad7365ae7470301bd9dd4629b1bc1 SRPMS/abiword-2.0.1-2.src.rpm bb87a7f1fb6d6d9635109845f8c2f47c x86_64/abiword-2.0.1-2.x86_64.rpm 7fda983e707e3d9a4547ecdb11153e08 x86_64/debug/abiword-debuginfo-2.0.1-2.x86_64.rpm abf7e7096f220519dbc9520190d4c084 i386/abiword-2.0.1-2.i386.rpm 59604f4a6f455facc2886ef7b7d9f676 i386/debug/abiword-debuginfo-2.0.1-2.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From caolanm at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 11:14:57 2004 From: caolanm at redhat.com (Caolan McNamara) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:14:57 -0400 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 2 Test Update: abiword-2.0.5-2 Message-ID: <20040721111457.GA21240@devserv.devel.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-225 2004-07-21 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : abiword Version : 2.0.5 Release : 2 Summary : The AbiWord word processor Description : AbiWord is a cross-platform Open Source word processor. The goal is to make AbiWord full-featured, and remain lean. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Security fix for abiword buffer overrun, if theres no problems I'll push RSN. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri Jul 16 2004 Caolan McNamara 1:2.0.5-2 - 2.0.5 + wv security backport --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 84bf9f76c65e8c49f5a228dff7750354 SRPMS/abiword-2.0.5-2.src.rpm 3756cb9d913dd9dd3868c60a9251e00b x86_64/abiword-2.0.5-2.x86_64.rpm 0a1c596f6f30fd95d2902f9780dff9d9 x86_64/debug/abiword-debuginfo-2.0.5-2.x86_64.rpm d1ba25933546ab6a669edd3b1e2ae1eb i386/abiword-2.0.5-2.i386.rpm 6ae7479a2a4e410b321fac705ee7bb1c i386/debug/abiword-debuginfo-2.0.5-2.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From harald at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 11:47:24 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:47:24 +0200 Subject: cdrecord fails with "Floating Point Exception" In-Reply-To: <20040720205256.580DB54C689@plmssa02.academy.com> References: <20040720205256.580DB54C689@plmssa02.academy.com> Message-ID: <40FE57CC.5040403@redhat.com> Gregory Woodbury wrote: > I've just bugzilla'd this (under cdrtools component) with the command > output and a core dump available via an http link to my machine. > > Bug #128206 cdrtools-2.01.0.a34-1 should fix the problem From reader at newsguy.com Wed Jul 21 11:51:54 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 06:51:54 -0500 Subject: xterm and erase character Message-ID: With the changes that are being tried in xterm package, I seem to need to manually set stty erase to ^H so that stuff works like I expect it to in X. However setting that in .bashrc like: stty erase  Causes bad behavior in text mode terminals. I get ^? for backspace and ^[[3~ for delete key. I have to manually do ^H to get the desired behavior of deleting one character to the left. I've forgotten the standard test for a terminal to know if it is in X or not but even knowing that I'm wondering if I could set a resource in ~/.Xresources for xterm, so it would only happen in xterm running in X. Not to have to bother with it in init files. That is, is there a resource setting that will cause erase char to be ^H (control+H) that can be inserted into ~/.Xresources? From dsavage at peaknet.net Wed Jul 21 12:34:24 2004 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:34:24 -0500 Subject: Mailing list problems? In-Reply-To: <40FDE91C.5010606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40FDE91C.5010606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <1090413264.4414.23.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 22:55, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Ok , I've seen it happen for two days already , have checked the > archives and looks like I'm not going crazy... > Did you guys notice that every post is being duplicated ? I've noticed > it on fedora-test-list and I have the impression that the same thing is > happening on fedora-list also... > For example , the thread "rpm -vhF foomatic fails" has two entries on > the archive with the same message ... Same thing happened with "SATA > boot whish for FC3" ... > But , the most weird thing is that it is not happening with all messages... Pedro, Check your mail client's filters. I'll bet you'll find two for messages to the fedora-test-list. This will cause duplicate messages to appear in that folder, one from each filter rule. --Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 1 kernel 2.4.22-1.2197.nptl on P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed Jul 21 13:02:29 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:02:29 -0400 Subject: Mailing list problems? In-Reply-To: <1090413264.4414.23.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <40FDE91C.5010606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <1090413264.4414.23.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <1090414949.27319.43.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 07:34 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 22:55, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > > Ok , I've seen it happen for two days already , have checked the > > archives and looks like I'm not going crazy... > > Did you guys notice that every post is being duplicated ? I've noticed > > it on fedora-test-list and I have the impression that the same thing is > > happening on fedora-list also... > > For example , the thread "rpm -vhF foomatic fails" has two entries on > > the archive with the same message ... Same thing happened with "SATA > > boot whish for FC3" ... > > But , the most weird thing is that it is not happening with all messages... > > Pedro, > > Check your mail client's filters. I'll bet you'll find two for messages > to the fedora-test-list. This will cause duplicate messages to appear in > that folder, one from each filter rule. Don't think so - same problem here but only for a subset of messages since Monday. Checked ~/.evolution/mail/filters.xml and there is only one entry for fedora-test-list, and it is terminated with "Stop Processing" to avoid duplicates. Think Michael Schwendt nailed it. Phil From jkeating at j2solutions.net Wed Jul 21 14:46:25 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:46:25 -0700 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <1090405966.4321.16.camel@Mars> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> <200407201951.58309.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1090405966.4321.16.camel@Mars> Message-ID: <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 21 July 2004 03:32, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > I have a Intel Perl motherboard with a 2.4 Intel P4, HT processor. One > WD Raptor SATA as primary disk and one IDE Maxtor as primary IDE disk. > > GRUB is getting installed on /dev/hda but bios is booting on /dev/sda. > If i change the bios to boot on /dev/hda (GRUB install) the system boots > as it should from /dev/sda. > > > In config advanced alternatives for boot loader in GRUB install, the hda > is on top of sda and the GRUB will get installed on hda > See the top line: http://www.linuxin.dk/pictures/fc211.jpg > (sorry for the danish language) > But the standard place for loading linux kernel is /dev/sda2 (my /boot > partition) > > > Im not doing any "silly" things to the installer. Choosing STANDARD all > the way tru the installer, will not make the system boot. Ah, you have an IDE disk already in there. Anaconda has no way of knowing that you wish to boot from your SATA (it appears to anaconda as SCSI) disk over your IDE disk. Anaconda does the save thing and installs to the first harddrive it sees. Thats why when the Grub screen comes up you can adjust it. Don't confuse the GRUB install location (/dev/hda or /dev/sda) with the /boot location. GRUB installs to the master boot record of a DISK not to a PARTITION. /boot is a PARTITION. The mass majority of systems out there do in fact boot from the first harddisk detected. For those oddball systems that do not, Anaconda allows you to manually adjust. I'm not sure how this can be improved. Any further thoughts? - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/oHB4v2HLvE71NURAuitAJ9AewQBaXtAtgYQXF5qYvFcp3OEtgCdFmue XfB+kUpcC0NQN4/YaX5UYzo= =ecUg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From notting at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 15:11:08 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:11:08 -0400 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> <200407201951.58309.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1090405966.4321.16.camel@Mars> <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <20040721151108.GB5140@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Jesse Keating (jkeating at j2solutions.net) said: > Ah, you have an IDE disk already in there. Anaconda has no way of knowing > that you wish to boot from your SATA (it appears to anaconda as SCSI) disk > over your IDE disk. Anaconda does the save thing and installs to the > first harddrive it sees. Actually, there is work being done on using EDD to determine the BIOS's notion of the boot drive. Bill From jkeating at j2solutions.net Wed Jul 21 15:22:31 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:22:31 -0700 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <20040721151108.GB5140@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040721151108.GB5140@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200407210822.31420.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 21 July 2004 08:11, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Actually, there is work being done on using EDD to determine the BIOS's > notion of the boot drive. I'm sure thats an ugly can of worms, especially how a lot of broken bioses can't report the disk size right. I see this is a great potential to expose more buggy bioses. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/oo34v2HLvE71NURAtEqAJ9mUqBeMmOnJ20GVtqbesFyd37BbQCdEShA dPPfJB7wMvZ22Hze1bM0T/c= =mFX1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ba at linuxin.dk Wed Jul 21 15:26:46 2004 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:26:46 +0200 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> <200407201951.58309.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1090405966.4321.16.camel@Mars> <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <1090423606.3413.2.camel@Mars> Well, SuSE and Windows knows what device to boot from (the SATA disk). No problem there... They must see it in the bios. /Bjorn On ons, 2004-07-21 at 07:46 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 21 July 2004 03:32, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > > I have a Intel Perl motherboard with a 2.4 Intel P4, HT processor. One > > WD Raptor SATA as primary disk and one IDE Maxtor as primary IDE disk. > > > > GRUB is getting installed on /dev/hda but bios is booting on /dev/sda. > > If i change the bios to boot on /dev/hda (GRUB install) the system boots > > as it should from /dev/sda. > > > > > > In config advanced alternatives for boot loader in GRUB install, the hda > > is on top of sda and the GRUB will get installed on hda > > See the top line: http://www.linuxin.dk/pictures/fc211.jpg > > (sorry for the danish language) > > But the standard place for loading linux kernel is /dev/sda2 (my /boot > > partition) > > > > > > Im not doing any "silly" things to the installer. Choosing STANDARD all > > the way tru the installer, will not make the system boot. > > Ah, you have an IDE disk already in there. Anaconda has no way of knowing > that you wish to boot from your SATA (it appears to anaconda as SCSI) disk > over your IDE disk. Anaconda does the save thing and installs to the > first harddrive it sees. Thats why when the Grub screen comes up you can > adjust it. Don't confuse the GRUB install location (/dev/hda or /dev/sda) > with the /boot location. GRUB installs to the master boot record of a > DISK not to a PARTITION. /boot is a PARTITION. > > The mass majority of systems out there do in fact boot from the first > harddisk detected. For those oddball systems that do not, Anaconda allows > you to manually adjust. I'm not sure how this can be improved. Any > further thoughts? > > - -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) > GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > > Was I helpful? Let others know: > http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFA/oHB4v2HLvE71NURAuitAJ9AewQBaXtAtgYQXF5qYvFcp3OEtgCdFmue > XfB+kUpcC0NQN4/YaX5UYzo= > =ecUg > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From ba at linuxin.dk Wed Jul 21 16:12:06 2004 From: ba at linuxin.dk (Bjorn Andersen) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:12:06 +0200 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <20040721151108.GB5140@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> <200407201951.58309.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1090405966.4321.16.camel@Mars> <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040721151108.GB5140@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1090426326.3738.8.camel@Mars> Nice to know. Thanks /Bjorn On ons, 2004-07-21 at 11:11 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Actually, there is work being done on using EDD to determine the BIOS's > notion of the boot drive. > > Bill > > From jorton at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 16:38:48 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:38:48 +0100 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 1 Test Update: php-4.3.8-1.1 Message-ID: <20040721163848.GP21361@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-222 2004-07-19 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 1 Name : php Version : 4.3.8 Release : 1.1 Summary : The PHP HTML-embedded scripting language. (PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) Description : PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. PHP attempts to make it easy for developers to write dynamically generated webpages. PHP also offers built-in database integration for several commercial and non-commercial database management systems, so writing a database-enabled webpage with PHP is fairly simple. The most common use of PHP coding is probably as a replacement for CGI scripts. The mod_php module enables the Apache Web server to understand and process the embedded PHP language in Web pages. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest release of PHP 4, including fixes for security issues in memory limit handling (CVE CAN-2004-0594), and the strip_tags function (CVE CAN-2004-0595). CAN-2004-0595 is not known to be exploitable in the default configuration if using httpd 2.0.50, but can be triggered if the "register_globals" setting has been enabled. CAN-2004-0595 can allow a possible cross-site-scripting attack with some browsers. The mbstring extension has been moved into the php-mbstring subpackage in this update to reduce the overall package size. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri Jul 16 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.8-1.1 - revert default php.ini change since 4.3.6 - add three FD_SETSIZE changes to main/network.c (#125258) * Wed Jul 14 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.8-1.0 - update to 4.3.8 - add gmp_powm fix (Oskari Saarenmaa, #124318) - split out mbstring extension into php-mbstring subpackage - fix rebuild without bison/flex - have -devel require php of same release - add fixes for memory handling in 2.0 handler SAPI --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 0c45a06751cf6c4bcc0fdb710b6c7ef7 SRPMS/php-4.3.8-1.1.src.rpm 0f1143b7f8fc21791647a2d6f3ee6e92 x86_64/php-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm 1d992aec373651a4cad6dec55c532bb4 x86_64/php-devel-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm 059b748fc67262e4576e2b0dea18475c x86_64/php-imap-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm 35b655611b23069cc1c569920c8f52ec x86_64/php-ldap-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm cfc8842e2c641bfae26662cdc628bd8f x86_64/php-mysql-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm da6cddce4b88482a36a38f1805dc5814 x86_64/php-pgsql-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm 36ca14ba8a50de914d6df123b28f4928 x86_64/php-odbc-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm 0363a2c1f63e113d7a9af631cf80e3bf x86_64/php-snmp-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm 5da48fc607a77932a157d185fa36e080 x86_64/php-domxml-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm 3d77dbc80df30b0e6591bef9ae5b1795 x86_64/php-xmlrpc-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm da16785f27cdaf5a77042cdcdc91da3b x86_64/php-mbstring-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm 94142826e5cf4db098a27f5eae1f80e3 x86_64/debug/php-debuginfo-4.3.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm 637e36f2bbbe389d165854f0f9bd244e i386/php-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm d93d6dbe3a16b0dd117732cb2c0278f5 i386/php-devel-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm e7e0331dc514ca8e93b47362a131cfd7 i386/php-imap-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm 34c9cadbfd570ecadc49cd8b4c3294b3 i386/php-ldap-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm 9b780de94861221f8547677b4bacde59 i386/php-mysql-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm 3a2bf9ed30876725bbecae29410ca6ee i386/php-pgsql-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm 565848d97d1d8be2cd4270d5de111c57 i386/php-odbc-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm 578af80d2ebeb60dc25df0df273b374d i386/php-snmp-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm 3e873e19861b1e3ed0e6fe69d1a56e70 i386/php-domxml-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm 104f1e25f6547c6350cab8a7bc05607c i386/php-xmlrpc-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm aacc7825986260eb2a355bc8d190f3b0 i386/php-mbstring-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm cc9a98da4c866ca5132e12dcd0f4badf i386/debug/php-debuginfo-4.3.8-1.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jorton at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 16:39:07 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:39:07 +0100 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 2 Test Update: php-4.3.8-2.1 Message-ID: <20040721163907.GQ21361@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-223 2004-07-19 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : php Version : 4.3.8 Release : 2.1 Summary : The PHP HTML-embedded scripting language. (PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) Description : PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. PHP attempts to make it easy for developers to write dynamically generated webpages. PHP also offers built-in database integration for several commercial and non-commercial database management systems, so writing a database-enabled webpage with PHP is fairly simple. The most common use of PHP coding is probably as a replacement for CGI scripts. The mod_php module enables the Apache Web server to understand and process the embedded PHP language in Web pages. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest release of PHP 4, including fixes for security issues in memory limit handling (CVE CAN-2004-0594), and the strip_tags function (CVE CAN-2004-0595). CAN-2004-0595 is not known to be exploitable in the default configuration if using httpd 2.0.50, but can be triggered if the "register_globals" setting has been enabled. CAN-2004-0595 can allow a possible cross-site-scripting attack with some browsers. The mbstring extension has been moved into the php-mbstring subpackage in this update to reduce the overall package size. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri Jul 16 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.8-2.1 - revert upstream default php.ini change since 4.3.6 - add three FD_SETSIZE changes to main/network.c (#125258) * Wed Jul 14 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.8-2.0 - update to 4.3.8 - add gmp_powm fix (Oskari Saarenmaa, #124318) - split out mbstring extension into php-mbstring subpackage - fix rebuild without bison/flex - have -devel require php of same release - add fixes for memory handling in 2.0 handler SAPI --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ f57de325c1b0075c8b9918b6190291f0 SRPMS/php-4.3.8-2.1.src.rpm 5662c06c3240456e7e3d4c0f7c702091 x86_64/php-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm bae4a119545924fa86ba27cec76579b8 x86_64/php-devel-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm 9d557e3c97a77eae1f84a66b1f648747 x86_64/php-pear-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm 5033078b1490ed8dbbef575f8defccfc x86_64/php-imap-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm 03088300f7ba6b5e3950ae49ae2943cb x86_64/php-ldap-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm 8d1111d0d1bcd9aaf7c3bff047516037 x86_64/php-mysql-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm 1b8329e32b68dc614ba575200458e15f x86_64/php-pgsql-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm f8644e6afbe2ede2739a8441e9ec1add x86_64/php-odbc-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm 9c3e014c1fc5c540ad8262c48717192b x86_64/php-snmp-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm 8566d34805f400fa54ea222e1d9f721b x86_64/php-domxml-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm b42b50b676276985caffaf4aef14ad10 x86_64/php-xmlrpc-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm d6f06baeeb3c699c66474dfdd7704838 x86_64/php-mbstring-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm 369344ee09f9dc6b6e9cbdf06641e8b0 x86_64/debug/php-debuginfo-4.3.8-2.1.x86_64.rpm 088181222edea8ab4a4dc763007e4d2f i386/php-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm a837db46b13ffc028d7021559cd2c8d1 i386/php-devel-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm 22ee568040d733d37f4f6276bbe833d2 i386/php-pear-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm 4c239feb935da1423acbc75afcf89751 i386/php-imap-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm 4d67505e39bae6c2dea332b102eabc08 i386/php-ldap-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm 986a8110572e045dde818b20ccedc134 i386/php-mysql-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm 0852df1fd8a4f0a711aa3f24149469f0 i386/php-pgsql-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm f4409be67a95f71e0522764ccf8e73bf i386/php-odbc-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm c6e003d848e6bbaa8253ba57c7172738 i386/php-snmp-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm 71767893d4008f6971d773f22f7bcf06 i386/php-domxml-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm a335f1db2c569f2e7ea56643bdb98538 i386/php-xmlrpc-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm 3a95b4f7f54fb509935506d4c15ff970 i386/php-mbstring-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm 9f51560ac257ae5d69133d05c603799b i386/debug/php-debuginfo-4.3.8-2.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jorton at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 16:41:49 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:41:49 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 1 Test Update: apr-0.9.4-2.1 Message-ID: <20040721164149.GA11568@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-229 2004-07-21 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 1 Name : apr Version : 0.9.4 Release : 2.1 Summary : Apache Portable Runtime library Description : The mission of the Apache Portable Runtime (APR) is to provide a free library of C data structures and routines, forming a system portability layer to as many operating systems as possible, including Unices, MS Win32, BeOS and OS/2. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update fixes a regression in the "htpasswd" utility if using the Apache httpd 2.0.50 update, and includes other minor bug fixes. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Mon Jul 19 2004 Joe Orton 0.9.4-2.1 - merge fixes for: * cleanup structure reuse * only do AF_INET reverse lookups of v4-mapped IPv6 addresses * apr_temp_dir_get() fixes (#128144) * apr_time_exp_get() handling dates in 2038 (Philip Martin) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ c5e00ee532cbbf1c27638c3b177bdb13 SRPMS/apr-0.9.4-2.1.src.rpm 7ea8de0059a087b122763d250a4db789 x86_64/apr-0.9.4-2.1.x86_64.rpm 8877079543dae9d485403055371b7e7f x86_64/apr-devel-0.9.4-2.1.x86_64.rpm e4f60b994bbb3f1524286b88d7ca3b4a x86_64/debug/apr-debuginfo-0.9.4-2.1.x86_64.rpm 3f6386babf9138219877a0153673d466 i386/apr-0.9.4-2.1.i386.rpm 6fedc259c40de6fca57c75beb88c9f7e i386/apr-devel-0.9.4-2.1.i386.rpm 8fbe08cb70721a4b214f36ba7155c4d8 i386/debug/apr-debuginfo-0.9.4-2.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Wed Jul 21 17:25:34 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:25:34 -0300 Subject: Mailing list problems? In-Reply-To: <1090413264.4414.23.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <40FDE91C.5010606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <1090413264.4414.23.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <40FEA70E.10103@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: >Pedro, > >Check your mail client's filters. I'll bet you'll find two for messages >to the fedora-test-list. This will cause duplicate messages to appear in >that folder, one from each filter rule. > > I've checked here.. mozilla mail has only one rule for each mailing list... And this doesnt seem to be the case , as the archives have duplicated messages too... -- Pedro Macedo From doug at dmaurer.net Wed Jul 21 16:54:22 2004 From: doug at dmaurer.net (Doug Maurer) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:54:22 -0400 Subject: up2date Message-ID: <1090428862.4612.1.camel@dougs-laptop> Trying to update a new install and I'm getting dependency issues. Should this be reported on bugzilla? Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 requires libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 -- Doug Maurer doug at dmaurer.net http:/www.dmaurer.net Linux user #299439 From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Wed Jul 21 17:58:12 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:58:12 -0400 Subject: up2date In-Reply-To: <1090428862.4612.1.camel@dougs-laptop> References: <1090428862.4612.1.camel@dougs-laptop> Message-ID: <1090432692.10004.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 12:54, Doug Maurer wrote: > Trying to update a new install and I'm getting dependency issues. Should > this be reported on bugzilla? > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 requires libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 > Probably, but you can run them in manually with --nodeps. Evolution will break, but will get fixed with the next up2date. Without balsa. Bob... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From doug at dmaurer.net Wed Jul 21 17:20:07 2004 From: doug at dmaurer.net (Doug Maurer) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:20:07 -0400 Subject: up2date In-Reply-To: <1090432692.10004.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <1090428862.4612.1.camel@dougs-laptop> <1090432692.10004.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1090430407.4612.6.camel@dougs-laptop> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 13:58 -0400, Bob Chiodini wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 12:54, Doug Maurer wrote: > > Trying to update a new install and I'm getting dependency issues. Should > > this be reported on bugzilla? > > > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > > There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > > gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 requires libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 > > > > Probably, but you can run them in manually with --nodeps. Evolution > will break, but will get fixed with the next up2date. Without balsa. > > Bob... Tried to run up2date -u --nosig --nodeps only to get an error, did man on up2date and no --nodeps wasn't listed. I went ahead and opened a bug report, on the dependency issue. From jorton at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 18:27:37 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:27:37 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: neon-0.24.7-2.1 Message-ID: <20040721182737.GA7980@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-230 2004-07-21 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : neon Version : 0.24.7 Release : 2.1 Summary : An HTTP and WebDAV client library Description : neon is an HTTP and WebDAV client library, with a C interface; providing a high-level interface to HTTP and WebDAV methods along with a low-level interface for HTTP request handling. neon supports persistent connections, proxy servers, basic, digest and Kerberos authentication, and has complete SSL support. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes fixes for some bugs in the compressed response handling which can cause issues if using Subversion over WebDAV. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Jul 20 2004 Joe Orton 0.24.7-2.1 - rebuild * Tue Jul 06 2004 Joe Orton 0.24.7-2 - devel requires neon of same release, expat-devel (#127330) * Mon Jul 05 2004 Joe Orton 0.24.7-1 - update to 0.24.7 * Tue Jun 15 2004 Elliot Lee - rebuilt * Wed May 19 2004 Joe Orton 0.24.6-1 - update to 0.24.6 --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ d257e36e960f023948f5e1b39ac7e16b SRPMS/neon-0.24.7-2.1.src.rpm d0cb181beb9467a4d989e56adf72fb5f x86_64/neon-0.24.7-2.1.x86_64.rpm 3bea0f68c54485c0edcb340f7ec832cb x86_64/neon-devel-0.24.7-2.1.x86_64.rpm 4ef548ff6cf1b790068781db8445ef70 x86_64/debug/neon-debuginfo-0.24.7-2.1.x86_64.rpm 4f1c4fc71e2e48397854a5cb74516a33 i386/neon-0.24.7-2.1.i386.rpm da51551d1fc65712516f9c8211c60ea8 i386/neon-devel-0.24.7-2.1.i386.rpm b1854a771b48839f4860d2d23f2ccd22 i386/debug/neon-debuginfo-0.24.7-2.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jorton at redhat.com Wed Jul 21 18:32:46 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:32:46 -0400 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 2 Test Update: subversion-1.0.6-1 Message-ID: <20040721183246.GA12139@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-231 2004-07-21 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : subversion Version : 1.0.6 Release : 1 Summary : Modern Version Control System designed to replace CVS Description : Subversion is a concurrent version control system which enables one or more users to collaborate in developing and maintaining a hierarchy of files and directories while keeping a history of all changes. Subversion only stores the differences between versions, instead of every complete file. Subversion is intended to be a compelling replacement for CVS. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest release of Subversion, including a security fix for an issue in the mod_authz_svn Apache authentication module which could allow a read restriction for a portion of the repository to be bypassed by a user who has write access to a different portion of the repository. This issue does not affect the svnserve daemon. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Jul 20 2004 Joe Orton 1.0.6-1 - update to 1.0.6 - allow build against neon 0.24.* * Tue Jun 15 2004 Elliot Lee - rebuilt * Thu Jun 10 2004 Joe Orton 1.0.5-1 - update to 1.0.5 --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 90b53d71743d6162ef8627d2571bc4df SRPMS/subversion-1.0.6-1.src.rpm 9b3dd7b20633a3a286d895c3236feb93 x86_64/subversion-1.0.6-1.x86_64.rpm fabb420539256c0bb7c4fe06a0f8f95b x86_64/subversion-devel-1.0.6-1.x86_64.rpm 9eba6a43bad2bc5c9f426dd282a2aa9e x86_64/mod_dav_svn-1.0.6-1.x86_64.rpm 09a64bf867ea9d0c7c11517a2d4aa96f x86_64/subversion-perl-1.0.6-1.x86_64.rpm ff30995d3edc5380d5efdf5bce1ea7fa x86_64/debug/subversion-debuginfo-1.0.6-1.x86_64.rpm 330aca4480f73be7c5b2c48fc38c50bf i386/subversion-1.0.6-1.i386.rpm 42c32be8a2026fc80ecc86b8f590b184 i386/subversion-devel-1.0.6-1.i386.rpm d5667f4468b06d32caadc4c80c1505c5 i386/mod_dav_svn-1.0.6-1.i386.rpm 6d6534ccfafd00aa598ba1d6d25dea37 i386/subversion-perl-1.0.6-1.i386.rpm 2735d776e4c6a350ed8744e078fbfb3a i386/debug/subversion-debuginfo-1.0.6-1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Wed Jul 21 21:33:09 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:33:09 -0400 Subject: system-config-samba fixed by July 21,2004 updates. Message-ID: <20040721213309.GA8969@wolves.durham.nc.us> The problem I had with system-config-samba seems to have been fixed by the latest updates to rawhide. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From ckunkel at been-there.com Wed Jul 21 21:43:37 2004 From: ckunkel at been-there.com (Clyde Kunkel) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:43:37 -0400 Subject: system-config-samba fixed by July 21,2004 updates. In-Reply-To: <20040721213309.GA8969@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <20040721214336.GNSW29398.lakermmtao05.cox.net@kunkelcp4t17> > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodbury > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 5:33 PM > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: system-config-samba fixed by July 21,2004 updates. > > The problem I had with system-config-samba seems to have been fixed by > the latest updates to rawhide. > > -- > G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' > U > The Line Eater is a boojum! > Same here. Life is good again. Clyde Kunkel From talbotscott at cox.net Wed Jul 21 22:33:29 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:33:29 -0700 Subject: Mailing list problems? In-Reply-To: <40FEA70E.10103@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40FDE91C.5010606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <1090413264.4414.23.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> <40FEA70E.10103@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <1090449209.3153.1.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 14:25 -0300, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > ked here.. mozilla mail has only one rule for each mailing > list... And this doesnt seem to be the case , as the archives have > duplicated messages too... > I noticed that the duplicate messages also had 2 signatures showing the mailto and archive URL. Seems to me that that would indicate something within mailman causing the problem. Routing internally or something. Scott From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 21 23:45:34 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:45:34 -0400 Subject: up2date In-Reply-To: <1090430407.4612.6.camel@dougs-laptop> References: <1090428862.4612.1.camel@dougs-laptop> <1090432692.10004.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <1090430407.4612.6.camel@dougs-laptop> Message-ID: <40FF001E.1060301@sbcglobal.net> Doug Maurer wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 13:58 -0400, Bob Chiodini wrote: > >>On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 12:54, Doug Maurer wrote: >> >>>Trying to update a new install and I'm getting dependency issues. Should >>>this be reported on bugzilla? >>> >>>Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... >>>There was a package dependency problem. The message was: >>> >>>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>>gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 requires libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 >>> >> >>Probably, but you can run them in manually with --nodeps. Evolution >>will break, but will get fixed with the next up2date. Without balsa. >> >>Bob... > > > Tried to run up2date -u --nosig --nodeps > only to get an error, did man on up2date and no --nodeps wasn't listed. > > I went ahead and opened a bug report, on the dependency issue. > > I checked out balsa for awhile, then I removed it to satisfy the dep issue. An explanation was passed on earlier from the developer. I wouldn't do a nodep though. I believe the option is something other than nodeps. I never installed from up2date unless the deps were resolved. *Other Comments:* red-carpet Also, to cut down on the amount of posts I make. I thought that I'd commend the great ability that the red-carpet program being developed is becoming. I tried it on an FC2 to FC3T1 system and it found multiple installation of the package mentioned earlier. I could not automatically select channels for the atrpms, dags, etc: channels. On another system that is running development from FC1 up to current rawhide. I was able to get the channels to come up without any major problems. There were conflicts with rpms refusing to install through the program. Since this is pulling from rawhide, it is good that it fails to install. With program upgrades and libs that the deps were not in conflict, the packages installed fine, twirling monkey and all! Using the dep resolver feature, there were about 5 packages that needed to either be pulled in or removed before system continuity was restored. It completed without needing any manual intervention. I'm using the red-carpet packages from redhat development. (people.redhat.com) marked FC3. *Up2date part:* Also, for the FC2 to FCT1 system, I installed red-caret by making a local directory and having the entry in the up2date sources file. I then ran 'up2date redcarpet --nosig' to install the rpms. Up2date seemed to go on about installing the packages. I could not get the channels and adding a channel for local packages alowed me to install the rpms that up2date did not pull in. For the development version, where the channels appear. I simply changed to the directory with the rpms and rpm -Uvh *.rpm on the lot. Thanks! Jim From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 22 00:29:17 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:29:17 -0400 Subject: X - locked on dots, no keyboard - advice on diagnosis Message-ID: <40FF0A5D.9050004@sbcglobal.net> On the dell computer that I got the video to work by advice by people on the list. I had X displaying a black screen w/ white dots scattered sparsely. I also could not switch to any screen terminal and the keyboard lights were out. I was running the ftp client to transfer files from a windows computer to the FC3T1 fresh install. This service was still transferring files and also the web server was still working. I eventually had the file transfer complete,then pressed ctl-alt-del and the computer eventually rebooted. I did not see any difference on the screen until I saw the grub menu. Then the computer booted up into windows. This indicates that the system should have entered runlevel 6 after the ctl-alt-del. A basic summary regarding the conditions the system was booted in follow: - Running the latest 494smp kernel - On bootup, a message regarding AGP and S3 conflicting disabling S3 - Some odd boot messages passing quickly by, no apparent errors displayed. - Screen savers set to cycle every minute randomly. Was logged into X as a regular user. Checked computer periodically and all seemed alright. After about 1.5 hrs, noticed screen displaying the speckled white dots and smears. Noted ftp transfer still proceeding. Also checked apache was functioning. processor is a P4 w/ hyperthreading, 512 MB memory. My questions are regarding what logs to provide? What config files to provide? What runlevel to boot into. (I use level 3 mostly, would level 1 be better?) Any other additions of useful testing practices appreciated. I don't want to wipe any info out that might aid in bug resolution. Thanks! Jim From gstool at earthlink.net Thu Jul 22 00:52:36 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:52:36 -0500 Subject: gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 in rawhide channel, needs libgtkhtml-3.1.... Message-ID: <40FF0FD4.9030807@earthlink.net> Title says it. will libgtkhtml-3.1 be available soon? up2date says: There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 requires libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 Please modify your package selections and try again. yum says: Resolving dependencies ....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package gtkhtml3 needs libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10, this is not available. Gerry Tool From talbotscott at cox.net Thu Jul 22 01:05:51 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:05:51 -0700 Subject: up2date In-Reply-To: <40FF001E.1060301@sbcglobal.net> References: <1090428862.4612.1.camel@dougs-laptop> <1090432692.10004.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <1090430407.4612.6.camel@dougs-laptop> <40FF001E.1060301@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1090458357.3153.11.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 19:45 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > Doug Maurer wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 13:58 -0400, Bob Chiodini wrote: > > > >>On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 12:54, Doug Maurer wrote: > >> > >>>Trying to update a new install and I'm getting dependency issues. Should > >>>this be reported on bugzilla? > >>> > >>>Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > >>>There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > >>> > >>>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > >>>gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 requires libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 > >>> > >> > >>Probably, but you can run them in manually with --nodeps. Evolution > >>will break, but will get fixed with the next up2date. Without balsa. > >> > >>Bob... > > > > > > I notice on my systems that I have libgtkhtml-3.1.so.11 and 6 other libs with a similar name. I don't really understand why so may are needed are these all unique libraries or are newer versions updates to the older ones? Anyway, I'll stick this package in the ignored for a few days and see if it isn't fixed by fedora folks. Scott From jeff at ollie.clive.ia.us Thu Jul 22 01:16:37 2004 From: jeff at ollie.clive.ia.us (Jeffrey C. Ollie) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:16:37 -0500 Subject: gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 in rawhide channel, needs libgtkhtml-3.1.... In-Reply-To: <40FF0FD4.9030807@earthlink.net> References: <40FF0FD4.9030807@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1090458996.29958.3.camel@oak.ollie.clive.ia.us> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 19:52, Gerry Tool wrote: > > yum says: > Resolving dependencies > ....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package gtkhtml3 needs libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10, this is not available. I think that this is a building/packaging problem. When you build gtkhtml3 it appears to link some part of it against the *installed* library rather than the library that you've just built. Install gtkhtml3-3.1.18-1 with --nodeps and then build it again should get rid of the bogus dependency. Jeff From gstool at earthlink.net Thu Jul 22 01:33:16 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:33:16 -0500 Subject: gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 in rawhide channel, needs libgtkhtml-3.1.... In-Reply-To: <1090458996.29958.3.camel@oak.ollie.clive.ia.us> References: <40FF0FD4.9030807@earthlink.net> <1090458996.29958.3.camel@oak.ollie.clive.ia.us> Message-ID: <40FF195C.7090603@earthlink.net> Jeffrey C. Ollie wrote: >On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 19:52, Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>yum says: >>Resolving dependencies >>....Unable to satisfy dependencies >>Package gtkhtml3 needs libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10, this is not available. >> >> > >I think that this is a building/packaging problem. When you build >gtkhtml3 it appears to link some part of it against the *installed* >library rather than the library that you've just built. Install >gtkhtml3-3.1.18-1 with --nodeps and then build it again should get rid >of the bogus dependency. > >Jeff > > > I'm not building it, just trying to install it from rawhide using up2date and/or yum. Of course the packager for rawhide may have had that problem. Gerry From doug at dmaurer.net Thu Jul 22 01:40:39 2004 From: doug at dmaurer.net (Doug Maurer) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:40:39 -0400 Subject: gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 in rawhide channel, needs libgtkhtml-3.1.... In-Reply-To: <1090458996.29958.3.camel@oak.ollie.clive.ia.us> References: <40FF0FD4.9030807@earthlink.net> <1090458996.29958.3.camel@oak.ollie.clive.ia.us> Message-ID: <1090460439.29430.1.camel@ontheroad> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 21:16, Jeffrey C. Ollie wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 19:52, Gerry Tool wrote: > > > > yum says: > > Resolving dependencies > > ....Unable to satisfy dependencies > > Package gtkhtml3 needs libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10, this is not available. > > I think that this is a building/packaging problem. When you build > gtkhtml3 it appears to link some part of it against the *installed* > library rather than the library that you've just built. Install > gtkhtml3-3.1.18-1 with --nodeps and then build it again should get rid > of the bogus dependency. > > Jeff exactly where are the updates, meaning which server? so we can download this file and rpm it. thanks doug -- Doug Maurer doug at dmaurer.net www.dmaurer.net Linux user #299439 From doug at dmaurer.net Thu Jul 22 01:45:56 2004 From: doug at dmaurer.net (Doug Maurer) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:45:56 -0400 Subject: gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 in rawhide channel, needs libgtkhtml-3.1.... In-Reply-To: <1090460439.29430.1.camel@ontheroad> References: <40FF0FD4.9030807@earthlink.net> <1090458996.29958.3.camel@oak.ollie.clive.ia.us> <1090460439.29430.1.camel@ontheroad> Message-ID: <1090460756.29430.4.camel@ontheroad> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 21:40, Doug Maurer wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 21:16, Jeffrey C. Ollie wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 19:52, Gerry Tool wrote: > > > > > > yum says: > > > Resolving dependencies > > > ....Unable to satisfy dependencies > > > Package gtkhtml3 needs libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10, this is not available. > > > > I think that this is a building/packaging problem. When you build > > gtkhtml3 it appears to link some part of it against the *installed* > > library rather than the library that you've just built. Install > > gtkhtml3-3.1.18-1 with --nodeps and then build it again should get rid > > of the bogus dependency. > > > > Jeff > > exactly where are the updates, meaning which server? so we can download > this file and rpm it. > thanks > doug oh and I did open this bug report today. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128317 From reader at newsguy.com Thu Jul 22 02:40:51 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:40:51 -0500 Subject: release 3 test 1 Message-ID: Not that easy, watching the traffic here to determine what exactly core 3 t 1 consists of. I see FC3t1 mentioned frequently but it is sometimes used interchangebly with FC2. For a clean new install to FC3t1, what is the proper sequence of events and exactly which ISOs are the base to start from? I've downloaded core 2 thinking that must be where one gets to FC3 from, but now not sure. I'm having too much trouble trying to ease into FC3 by cleaning up my current mess. Now aiming for a spanking clean install of whatever it is that gets me to FC3. What is it? From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Thu Jul 22 02:52:19 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:52:19 -0400 Subject: release 3 test 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040722025219.GA11591@wolves.durham.nc.us> On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 09:40:51PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Not that easy, watching the traffic here to determine what exactly > core 3 t 1 consists of. > > I see FC3t1 mentioned frequently but it is sometimes used > interchangebly with FC2. They are two separate products. FC2 (Fedora Core 2) is a set of base install + updates that is now about 4-5 months old. FC3t1 is a different set of base install + updates that is only a week or two old. > For a clean new install to FC3t1, what is the proper sequence of > events and exactly which ISOs are the base to start from? The ISO's can be found on the usual mirrors and torrents with an identification of "2.90" in the testing subtrees. They are also generally labeled as Core 3 Test 1. FC3t1 will be superceeded by FC3t2 and that, in turn, will be obsoleted by FC3t3. Ultimately FC3 will be released. > I've downloaded core 2 thinking that must be where one gets to FC3 > from, but now not sure. > > I'm having too much trouble trying to ease into FC3 by cleaning up my > current mess. Now aiming for a spanking clean install of whatever it > is that gets me to FC3. What is it? Try: http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/2.90/i386/iso/ -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From kevymac at yahoo.com Thu Jul 22 02:52:27 2004 From: kevymac at yahoo.com (Kevin McConnell) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: release 3 test 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040722025228.77670.qmail@web50504.mail.yahoo.com> --- Harry Putnam wrote: > Now aiming for a spanking clean > install of whatever it > is that gets me to FC3. What is it? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.90/i386/iso/ ===== Kevin C. McConnell --RHCE # 805299480800193 since July 2, 1999-- Freedom in software, now freedom in life. http://www.freestateproject.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From jeff at ollie.clive.ia.us Thu Jul 22 04:04:35 2004 From: jeff at ollie.clive.ia.us (Jeffrey C. Ollie) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:04:35 -0500 Subject: gtkhtml3 3.1.18-1 in rawhide channel, needs libgtkhtml-3.1.... In-Reply-To: <1090460439.29430.1.camel@ontheroad> References: <40FF0FD4.9030807@earthlink.net> <1090458996.29958.3.camel@oak.ollie.clive.ia.us> <1090460439.29430.1.camel@ontheroad> Message-ID: <1090469074.30513.0.camel@oak.ollie.clive.ia.us> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 20:40, Doug Maurer wrote: > > exactly where are the updates, meaning which server? so we can download > this file and rpm it. http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/SRPMS/gtkhtml3-3.1.18-1.src.rpm From michel.salim at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 05:44:19 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:44:19 +0700 Subject: release 3 test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040722025219.GA11591@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040722025219.GA11591@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <883cfe6d04072122446067bd8a@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:52:19 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > They are two separate products. FC2 (Fedora Core 2) is a set of base > install + updates that is now about 4-5 months old. > More like 2 months, actually - FC2 final was released in May =) - Michel From mike at netlyncs.com Thu Jul 22 10:48:45 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 05:48:45 -0500 Subject: Up2date error Message-ID: <1090493325.3274.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> I keep seeing this when up2date is run via command line, from a daily cron job... /etc/cron.daily/up2date: /usr/lib/python2.3/optik.py:8: DeprecationWarning: the optik interface is deprecated; please use optparse instead DeprecationWarning) Anyone else get or see this and/or is there a fix? [mike at scrappy mike]$ rpm -qa | grep up2date up2date-4.3.19-1.1 up2date-gnome-4.3.19-1.1 [mike at scrappy mike]$ rpm -qa | grep python gnome-python2-bonobo-2.0.2-1 python-2.3.4-4 python-devel-2.3.4-4 gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.0.2-1 gnome-python2-2.0.2-1 rpm-python-4.3.2-0.6 libxml2-python-2.6.11-1 gnome-python2-canvas-2.0.2-1 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From doug at dmaurer.net Thu Jul 22 10:54:39 2004 From: doug at dmaurer.net (Doug Maurer) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:54:39 -0400 Subject: Up2date error In-Reply-To: <1090493325.3274.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1090493325.3274.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1090493679.29430.8.camel@ontheroad> On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 06:48, Mike Chambers wrote: > I keep seeing this when up2date is run via command line, from a daily > cron job... > > /etc/cron.daily/up2date: > > /usr/lib/python2.3/optik.py:8: DeprecationWarning: the optik interface > is deprecated; please use optparse instead > DeprecationWarning) > > Anyone else get or see this and/or is there a fix? > > [mike at scrappy mike]$ rpm -qa | grep up2date > up2date-4.3.19-1.1 > up2date-gnome-4.3.19-1.1 > > [mike at scrappy mike]$ rpm -qa | grep python > gnome-python2-bonobo-2.0.2-1 > python-2.3.4-4 > python-devel-2.3.4-4 > gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.0.2-1 > gnome-python2-2.0.2-1 > rpm-python-4.3.2-0.6 > libxml2-python-2.6.11-1 > gnome-python2-canvas-2.0.2-1 > > -- > Mike Chambers > Madisonville, KY > > "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" seeing it -- Doug Maurer doug at dmaurer.net www.dmaurer.net Linux user #299439 From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 22 11:03:39 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:03:39 -0400 Subject: Up2date error In-Reply-To: <1090493325.3274.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1090493325.3274.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <40FF9F0B.9050900@sbcglobal.net> Mike Chambers wrote: > I keep seeing this when up2date is run via command line, from a daily > cron job... > > /etc/cron.daily/up2date: > > /usr/lib/python2.3/optik.py:8: DeprecationWarning: the optik interface > is deprecated; please use optparse instead > DeprecationWarning) > > Anyone else get or see this and/or is there a fix? > > [mike at scrappy mike]$ rpm -qa | grep up2date > up2date-4.3.19-1.1 > up2date-gnome-4.3.19-1.1 > > [mike at scrappy mike]$ rpm -qa | grep python > gnome-python2-bonobo-2.0.2-1 > python-2.3.4-4 > python-devel-2.3.4-4 > gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.0.2-1 > gnome-python2-2.0.2-1 > rpm-python-4.3.2-0.6 > libxml2-python-2.6.11-1 > gnome-python2-canvas-2.0.2-1 > Since the warning is seen and only states this is deprecated, I did not even consider this an error. Just a notation that soon, optik will be gone, so switch to optparse soon. Everything else seemed to be working fine with up2date. It works great, except for delays while trying to resolve dependacies that cannot be met. Up2date seems stalled when going on "dead end" searches. It eventually displays the appropriate error message though. Jim From dcastle at carolina.rr.com Thu Jul 22 11:35:45 2004 From: dcastle at carolina.rr.com (Dwaine Castle) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:35:45 -0400 Subject: tc3t2 up2date/gpg problem Message-ID: <031001c46fe0$082841f0$6401a8c0@DCXP> I Installed FC3 test 1 yesterday. The first time that up2date ran I encountered the libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 dependency problem and tried to work around it by updating a few files at a time. My problem is that, with each iteration of up2date, most files fail the gpg key test and I was forced to click a "yes" box to download the file. I've imported the same 6 keys from the various mirror sites that up2date chose most frequently but the problem persists. RPM reports 44 keys loaded. I think that I had about 6 for FC2. I guess that I've done something wrong, but I don't know what or how to fix it. Can anybody help me with this? Thanks. Dwaine From doug at dmaurer.net Thu Jul 22 12:10:31 2004 From: doug at dmaurer.net (Doug Maurer) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:10:31 -0400 Subject: tc3t2 up2date/gpg problem In-Reply-To: <031001c46fe0$082841f0$6401a8c0@DCXP> References: <031001c46fe0$082841f0$6401a8c0@DCXP> Message-ID: <1090498231.29430.10.camel@ontheroad> On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 07:35, Dwaine Castle wrote: > I Installed FC3 test 1 yesterday. The first time that up2date ran I > encountered the libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 dependency problem and tried to work > around it by updating a few files at a time. My problem is that, with each > iteration of up2date, most files fail the gpg key test and I was forced to > click a "yes" box to download the file. I've imported the same 6 keys from > the various mirror sites that up2date chose most frequently but the problem > persists. > > RPM reports 44 keys loaded. I think that I had about 6 for FC2. > > I guess that I've done something wrong, but I don't know what or how to fix > it. > > Can anybody help me with this? > > Thanks. > Dwaine > I use --nosig to bipass the gpg failure.. > > > -- Doug Maurer doug at dmaurer.net www.dmaurer.net Linux user #299439 From tony.molloy at ul.ie Thu Jul 22 12:26:09 2004 From: tony.molloy at ul.ie (Tony Molloy) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:26:09 +0100 Subject: tc3t2 up2date/gpg problem In-Reply-To: <031001c46fe0$082841f0$6401a8c0@DCXP> References: <031001c46fe0$082841f0$6401a8c0@DCXP> Message-ID: <200407221326.09709.tony.molloy@ul.ie> On Thursday 22 July 2004 12:35, Dwaine Castle wrote: > I Installed FC3 test 1 yesterday. The first time that up2date ran I > encountered the libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 dependency problem and tried to > work around it by updating a few files at a time. My problem is > that, with each iteration of up2date, most files fail the gpg key > test and I was forced to click a "yes" box to download the file. > I've imported the same 6 keys from the various mirror sites that > up2date chose most frequently but the problem persists. > > RPM reports 44 keys loaded. I think that I had about 6 for FC2. > > I guess that I've done something wrong, but I don't know what or how > to fix it. > > Can anybody help me with this? > > Thanks. > Dwaine As far as I know many of the packages in Rawhide are not signed. Run up2date-config and disable GPG checking. Tony -- Tony Molloy. Dept. of Comp. Sci. University of Limerick From ernesto at ornl.gov Thu Jul 22 12:26:59 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:26:59 -0400 Subject: Bluez-libs does fails dependencies from rawhide Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A3A@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Hi Does anyone else experience the problem of installing bluez-libs from rawhide? ================================================================== Unresolvable chain of dependencies: gnome-bluetooth 0.4.1-9 requires libsdp.so.2 libbtctl 0.3-7 requires libsdp.so.2 From harald at redhat.com Thu Jul 22 12:57:08 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:57:08 +0200 Subject: Bluez-libs does fails dependencies from rawhide In-Reply-To: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A3A@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> References: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0A3A@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <40FFB9A4.80307@redhat.com> Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > Hi > Does anyone else experience the problem of installing bluez-libs from rawhide? > > ================================================================== > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > gnome-bluetooth 0.4.1-9 requires libsdp.so.2 > libbtctl 0.3-7 requires libsdp.so.2 > > will be resolved soon... From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu Jul 22 13:01:06 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:01:06 -0400 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> <200407201951.58309.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1090405966.4321.16.camel@Mars> <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <1090501266.17670.25.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 07:46 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > Ah, you have an IDE disk already in there. Anaconda has no way of knowing > that you wish to boot from your SATA (it appears to anaconda as SCSI) disk > over your IDE disk. Anaconda does the save thing and installs to the > first harddrive it sees. Thats why when the Grub screen comes up you can > adjust it. Don't confuse the GRUB install location (/dev/hda or /dev/sda) > with the /boot location. GRUB installs to the master boot record of a > DISK not to a PARTITION. /boot is a PARTITION. GRUB can be installed as the boot record on a partition, usually /boot. Another MBR bootloader, such as one from Redmond, can then be convinced to boot GRUB by setting the /boot partition as active, often within restrictions such as being a primary partition within the first 1024 cylinders. This can be useful when certain non-open-source operating systems silently overwrite the MBR, but do provide capabilities to change the active partition. Phil From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu Jul 22 13:10:49 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:10:49 -0400 Subject: up2date In-Reply-To: <1090430407.4612.6.camel@dougs-laptop> References: <1090428862.4612.1.camel@dougs-laptop> <1090432692.10004.8.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <1090430407.4612.6.camel@dougs-laptop> Message-ID: <1090501849.17670.32.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 13:20 -0400, Doug Maurer wrote: > Tried to run up2date -u --nosig --nodeps > only to get an error, did man on up2date and no --nodeps wasn't > listed. --nodeps is an rpm flag. Could manually install with # rpm -Uvh --nodeps However, this is an unsafe approach to be avoided if at all possible. Removing the problematic (balsa?) package or waiting for updates would be preferable. Phil From harald at redhat.com Thu Jul 22 13:11:31 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:11:31 +0200 Subject: tc3t2 up2date/gpg problem In-Reply-To: <200407221326.09709.tony.molloy@ul.ie> References: <031001c46fe0$082841f0$6401a8c0@DCXP> <200407221326.09709.tony.molloy@ul.ie> Message-ID: <40FFBD03.4080200@redhat.com> Tony Molloy wrote: > On Thursday 22 July 2004 12:35, Dwaine Castle wrote: > >>I Installed FC3 test 1 yesterday. The first time that up2date ran I >>encountered the libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 dependency problem and tried to >>work around it by updating a few files at a time. My problem is >>that, with each iteration of up2date, most files fail the gpg key >>test and I was forced to click a "yes" box to download the file. >>I've imported the same 6 keys from the various mirror sites that >>up2date chose most frequently but the problem persists. >> >>RPM reports 44 keys loaded. I think that I had about 6 for FC2. >> >>I guess that I've done something wrong, but I don't know what or how >>to fix it. >> >>Can anybody help me with this? >> >>Thanks. >>Dwaine > > > > As far as I know many of the packages in Rawhide are not signed. Run > up2date-config and disable GPG checking. > > Tony /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-2/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-rawhide From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu Jul 22 13:24:28 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:24:28 -0400 Subject: release 3 test 1 In-Reply-To: <20040722025228.77670.qmail@web50504.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040722025228.77670.qmail@web50504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1090502668.17670.36.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 19:52 -0700, Kevin McConnell wrote: > --- Harry Putnam wrote: > > Now aiming for a spanking clean > > install of whatever it > > is that gets me to FC3. What is it? > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.90/i386/iso/ Or for more info and better download sources, see: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-July/msg00012.html Highly recommend BitTorrent - see end of above announcement. Phil From mcwimpy at gmx.at Thu Jul 22 13:50:33 2004 From: mcwimpy at gmx.at (Markus Nicolussi) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:50:33 +0200 (MEST) Subject: FC3 + SATA RAID References: <6234.1090245278@www47.gmx.net> Message-ID: <26417.1090504233@www28.gmx.net> Hello everybody! I'm waiting for a Fedora Release which supports my SATA RAID set. I'm wondering if FC3 is what i'm waiting for... I have the ASUS A7N8Deluxe with the Silicon Image Sil 3112A-Controller with and RAID 0/1-support in the _BIOS_. That means: I have a config tool in the BIOS and there i can merge my 2 SATA Disks to one big (striped RAID 0). After doing this, for the OS it looks as if i have one big, fast disk. With the drivers SiI supports for WinXP and RH9 ( http://12.24.47.40/display/2n/kb/article.asp?aid=10767 ) u can use this one big, fast virtual disk. You may ask why i don't want to use SW RAID. I have installed windowsXP (4 gaming) and want to use the free space after the XP partition 4 Linux. Therefore i have to use a Linux which can see the big virtual disk the BIOS displays, like with the driver from SiI. At the moment this is RH9, but RH9 is old... i want to use Fedora. Now i googled for hours and cant find a webpage which informs me of the current state of the linux kernel driver, the fedora installer anaconda and the general support in fedora. ==> Does such a webpage exist? ==> has anaconda integrated dmraid support in FC3-Test1? ==> Where can i keep myselfe informed? sincerely, nico -- +++ GMX DSL-Tarife 3 Monate gratis* +++ Nur bis 25.7.2004 +++ Bis 24.000 MB oder 300 Freistunden inkl. http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From gstool at earthlink.net Thu Jul 22 14:26:11 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:26:11 -0500 Subject: release 3 test 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40FFCE83.9040202@earthlink.net> Harry Putnam wrote: >I've downloaded core 2 thinking that must be where one gets to FC3 >from, but now not sure. > >I'm having too much trouble trying to ease into FC3 by cleaning up my >current mess. Now aiming for a spanking clean install of whatever it >is that gets me to FC3. What is it? > > > > Starting with FC2 and waiting for FC3 release in October will be the least painful and least effort. If you opt for FC3T1, there is no "supported" upgrade to FC3T2. Same FC3T2 to FC3T3 and FC3T3 to FC3. In each of those transitions, fresh installs are the most prudent and most useful to the testing process. Some people report success with successive upgrades with previous test releases, but one should not count on that working. On the other hand, if you are willing to aid in the test phases, welcome. Gerry Tool From markmc at redhat.com Thu Jul 22 16:21:37 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:21:37 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gnome-applets-2.6.2.1-1 Message-ID: <1090513297.4206.296.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hey, This pulls in a new version of gnome-applets from the stable branch of GNOME. Shouldn't introduce any new issues, but I would appreciate any testing people can do. Expect the following bugs to be resolved by this update: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121376 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124864 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122379 and perhaps these: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120115 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=126949 Unless anybody comes across some stopper, I'll push it on Monday. Thanks, Mark. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-232 2004-07-22 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : gnome-applets Version : 2.6.2.1 Release : 1 Summary : Small applications for the GNOME panel. Description : GNOME (GNU Network Object Model Environment) is a user-friendly set of applications and desktop tools to be used in conjunction with a window manager for the X Window System. The gnome-applets package provides small utilities for the GNOME panel. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Jul 21 2004 Mark McLoughlin 1:2.6.2.1-1 - Update to 2.6.2.1 - Re-do the way we decide whether to build the battstat applet. Should fix 122379 - Remove some patches that have gone upstream * Tue Jun 22 2004 Mark McLoughlin 1:2.6.0-8 - Fix typo with apmd requires * Tue Jun 15 2004 Elliot Lee - rebuilt - Remove ifarch'd buildrequires on apmd --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 4e938c409d4bc375b65080753c54d65f SRPMS/gnome-applets-2.6.2.1-1.src.rpm 268497855e3e376401f8989bb3b63da7 x86_64/gnome-applets-2.6.2.1-1.x86_64.rpm c70001da92b08daeb8ac6326f7df4036 x86_64/debug/gnome-applets-debuginfo-2.6.2.1-1.x86_64.rpm fe9c0b348a971df5f9df106a1e7ac138 i386/gnome-applets-2.6.2.1-1.i386.rpm a6ff9c8c11d8b544347e6be30bef0068 i386/debug/gnome-applets-debuginfo-2.6.2.1-1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From nphilipp at redhat.com Thu Jul 22 16:52:16 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:52:16 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gimp-2.0.3-0.fc2.1 Message-ID: <1090515136.21805.24.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-233 2004-07-22 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : gimp Version : 2.0.3 Release : 0.fc2.1 Summary : The GNU Image Manipulation Program Description : The GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) is a powerful image composition and editing program, which can be extremely useful for creating logos and other graphics for webpages. The GIMP has many of the tools and filters you would expect to find in similar commercial offerings, and some interesting extras as well. The GIMP provides a large image manipulation toolbox, including channel operations and layers, effects, sub-pixel imaging and anti-aliasing, and conversions, all with multi-level undo. The GIMP includes a scripting facility, but many of the included scripts rely on fonts that we cannot distribute. The GIMP FTP site has a package of fonts that you can install by yourself, which includes all the fonts needed to run the included scripts. Some of the fonts have unusual licensing requirements; all the licenses are documented in the package. Get ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/fonts/freefonts-0.10.tar.gz and ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/fonts/sharefonts-0.10.tar.gz if you are so inclined. Alternatively, choose fonts which exist on your system before running the scripts. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Thu Jul 22 2004 Nils Philippsen - version 2.0.3 - buildreq gtk2-devel >= 2.4.0 - use -32 or -64 postfixed binaries if available - rebuild for FC2 * Fri Jul 02 2004 Nils Philippsen - use included desktop (#126723), application-registry, mime-info and icon files - remove perl cruft (Gimp-Perl is an external package now) - further spec file cleaning --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 1d6761d0a4dbf5a00e9e45b9c0a28df5 SRPMS/gimp-2.0.3-0.fc2.1.src.rpm 64957e3420c61ddb432ad37bd471973a x86_64/gimp-2.0.3-0.fc2.1.x86_64.rpm 465a6ffb0ff9c49705e25a83098b4cda x86_64/gimp-devel-2.0.3-0.fc2.1.x86_64.rpm 948cd5878138682e59e2bb1773957492 x86_64/debug/gimp-debuginfo-2.0.3-0.fc2.1.x86_64.rpm f9dec31c977fc988b659f7ddedc15063 i386/gimp-2.0.3-0.fc2.1.i386.rpm 707a7803f879bb112fac9be3433cd338 i386/gimp-devel-2.0.3-0.fc2.1.i386.rpm bc72b77e79b4d3f98975f9f99b37b0c2 i386/debug/gimp-debuginfo-2.0.3-0.fc2.1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From aoliva at redhat.com Thu Jul 22 18:19:38 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 22 Jul 2004 15:19:38 -0300 Subject: tc3t2 up2date/gpg problem In-Reply-To: <40FFBD03.4080200@redhat.com> References: <031001c46fe0$082841f0$6401a8c0@DCXP> <200407221326.09709.tony.molloy@ul.ie> <40FFBD03.4080200@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Jul 22, 2004, Harald Hoyer wrote: > Tony Molloy wrote: >> As far as I know many of the packages in Rawhide are not signed. Run >> up2date-config and disable GPG checking. > /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-2/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-rawhide Yeah, that's for rawhide packages that are signed. But if the key bearer doesn't happen to run a key signing session between the time a package is built and the time it's pushed out to rawhide, it will go out unsigned. That's quite annoying. It would be nice if we could have anything that goes through the build system signed with a separate, very weak key, just so that every package in rawhide was guaranteed to have at least one signature, which would make it easy to roll daily up2dates onto many boxes. Personally, what I do is to have a local copy of rawhide and, after my daily sync, I run a script that looks for unsigned packages among those recently modified and signs them with my own key. Then, I up2date all of my home boxes, then rsync again to get the pristine, unsigned packages back. Not very convenient, but such is life :-) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From tony at immunix.com Thu Jul 22 19:03:29 2004 From: tony at immunix.com (Tony Jones) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:03:29 -0700 Subject: Yum upgrade from FC2 to FC3 possible? In-Reply-To: <20040720212156.GA6340@immunix.com> References: <20040715231609.GA6227@immunix.com> <1089934445.2768.26.camel@T7.linux> <20040716001120.GB6530@immunix.com> <1089986314.18421.239.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040720180723.GA22682@immunix.com> <20040720212156.GA6340@immunix.com> Message-ID: <20040722190329.GA8017@immunix.com> Well, as I said I got yum working (the old 1.90 era version was crashing). Had to manually satisfy some dependancies (like removing lvm so that lvm2 would load -- and getting rid of XFree86-devel, due to the move to x.org). At this point yum would get to the end of the dependancies stage (at one point prompting me Y/N to continue) and both times the network stack would go awol. I could log onto the serial console, everything looked ok (except the yum process had long ago being HUP'd), interface looked good, routes were good, but had zero network connectivity. stopping and starting the interface did nothing, init.d/network stop/start changed nothing, had to reboot in both cases. Gave up. Downloaded the FC3T1 ISOs. Get a media failure on testing disk1 (in the installer) and it aborts at install time "There was an error installing glibc-2.3.3-36 This can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. This is a fatal error and your install will be aborted. Please verify your media and try your install". dd'd the contents of the CD-R back onto the system and it passes the MD5 cksum on the fedora.redhat.com website. the CD-R also compares byte for byte against the ISO I downloaded. Tried to install on a different system and the media check failed in the same way for disk1. Didn't try actually installing on this second system to see if I get the same glib error. This is harder than I expected :-) Tony On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 02:21:56PM -0700, I wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 01:24:11PM -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > > You could verify if you have a proper working yum - and perhaps update to > > the latest > > verson - and try again: > > rpm -q python yum > > rpm -V python yum > rpm verifies were ok. upgrading to latest dev yum fixed issue. > > Thanks for everyones help! > > Cheers > > tony From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu Jul 22 20:12:48 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:12:48 +0100 Subject: yum update - dependancy problems Message-ID: <1090527168.31316.1.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Trying to do an update on this box (FC3t1) and am hitting the following dependency problems Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora Core 2 - Development tree Server: Evolution Devel Snaps Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Released updates Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Updates testing Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package gimp needs libcrlayeng.so.1, this is not available. Package gimp needs libcroco.so.1, this is not available. Package gimp needs libcrseleng.so.2, this is not available. Package subversion needs libswigpy.so, this is not available. Package gtkhtml3 needs libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10, this is not available. Package subversion-perl needs libswigpl.so, this is not available. Any ideas when these will be sorted? TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From reader at newsguy.com Thu Jul 22 22:11:11 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:11:11 -0500 Subject: During install .. comments Message-ID: I'm posting some comments as I go thru an install. Probably not bugzilla material but some small suggestions. Choosing auto partition with a workstation install. I never saw anyway to have a look at the auto created partition setup. I've reached the installation part now and don't know yet what my partition look like. Maybe one can back up after auto partition and chose manual to see what was done? But it seems there should be point where you are just shown what was done. Would be usefull if for some reason the auto setup was'nt adequate for users needs. From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 22:17:23 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:17:23 -0400 Subject: During install .. comments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <604aa79104072215177fe41fe5@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:11:11 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Maybe one can back up after auto partition and chose manual to see > what was done? But it seems there should be point where you are just > shown what was done. Would be usefull if for some reason the auto > setup was'nt adequate for users needs. I would counter that if you know what you want in terms of partitions, you should be choosing manual partition already instead of going through autoparition which might or might not suit your already defined needs. -jef From jlcthibo at uumail.gov.bc.ca Thu Jul 22 22:32:56 2004 From: jlcthibo at uumail.gov.bc.ca (Christian Thibodeau) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:32:56 -0700 Subject: During install .. comments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1090535576.7799.5.camel@phoenix.osg.gov.bc.ca> On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 17:11 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > I'm posting some comments as I go thru an install. Probably not > bugzilla material but some small suggestions. > > Choosing auto partition with a workstation install. I never saw > anyway to have a look at the auto created partition setup. > I've reached the installation part now and don't know yet what my > partition look like. > > Maybe one can back up after auto partition and chose manual to see > what was done? But it seems there should be point where you are just > shown what was done. Would be usefull if for some reason the auto > setup was'nt adequate for users needs. > > My memory may be a little fuzzy as it has been a couple of days since I did my FC3T1 install, but I recall that on the page where you select whether to do the auto or manual setup there was a checkbox that allowed you to edit/verify the partitions selected. I do not remember exactly what the working is, but I know there is something on that page because I used it :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 22 22:31:37 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:31:37 -0400 Subject: The Screen remains the same.. X, AGP & SMP Message-ID: <41004049.9050802@sbcglobal.net> If someone encounters a display while using X that does not refresh and seems the computer is locked up. It is not locked up, but the display is. It is still possible to switch to a terminal and safely shut down your computer. I think reboot or poweroff would safely shutdown or reboot your computer. I filed this bug regarding the twice encountered screen lockup. This is mainly posted for the two hours before the computer locks up. ... The display, yes! Computer no! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128358 I hope this reduces the chances of people just killing their computers when process are still running fine. Jim From tony at immunix.com Thu Jul 22 22:42:19 2004 From: tony at immunix.com (Tony Jones) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:42:19 -0700 Subject: problem with FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso Message-ID: <20040722224219.GA9339@immunix.com> I posted this previously (Subject: Yum upgrade from FC2 to FC3 possible?). I should pick a better subject. Gave up with yum (see previous Subject) and tried the isos (http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.90/i386/iso) Having problems with the FC3T1-D1 iso. Fails the installer media check (tried two systems). Also fails at install: "There was an error installing glibc-2.3.3-36 This can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. This is a fatal error and your install will be aborted. Please verify your media and try your install". $ md5sum FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso 70697f2afff9009836adbd9b7d35a44f FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso $ dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso` | md5sum 70697f2afff9009836adbd9b7d35a44f - 1290800+0 records in 1290800+0 records out Both of these match the sums in http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.90/i386/iso/MD5SUM What am I missing? Tony From joden at lee.k12.nc.us Thu Jul 22 23:26:59 2004 From: joden at lee.k12.nc.us (James Olin Oden) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: During install .. comments In-Reply-To: <604aa79104072215177fe41fe5@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa79104072215177fe41fe5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:11:11 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Maybe one can back up after auto partition and chose manual to see > > what was done? But it seems there should be point where you are just > > shown what was done. Would be usefull if for some reason the auto > > setup was'nt adequate for users needs. > > I would counter that if you know what you want in terms of partitions, > you should be choosing manual partition already instead of going > through autoparition which might or might not suit your already > defined needs. > Yeah, but maybe you want it to try to do the "right thing" but at least be able to confirm that what you thought was the "right thing" was what it thought was the "right thing". Anyway, I have no strong oppinion on this, just its easy to see his point. Cheers...james > -jef > > > From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 23 01:44:03 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:44:03 -0400 Subject: Gnat multiples - up2date freezes w/ message Message-ID: <41006D63.3020002@sbcglobal.net> install-info: menu item `GNAT User's Guide (gnat_ugn_unw) for Native Platforms / Unix and Windows ' already exists, for file `(none)' rpm -qa |grep gnat libgnat-3.4.1-7 gcc-gnat-3.4.1-5 gcc-gnat-3.4.1-7 libgnat-3.4.1-5 This conflict halted up2date for infinity (or would have). I was gone for about 2 hrs when the terminal message came up. Is anybody else seeing a conflict? I had three versions installed earlier. Jim From reader at newsguy.com Fri Jul 23 03:23:51 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:23:51 -0500 Subject: During install .. comments References: <604aa79104072215177fe41fe5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jeff Spaleta writes: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:11:11 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Maybe one can back up after auto partition and chose manual to see >> what was done? But it seems there should be point where you are just >> shown what was done. Would be usefull if for some reason the auto >> setup was'nt adequate for users needs. > > I would counter that if you know what you want in terms of partitions, > you should be choosing manual partition already instead of going > through autoparition which might or might not suit your already > defined needs. That has all the earmarks of a good chicken or egg debate... Its not really a philisophical point I was making. Simiply saying user should be shown the partition scheme. As it turns out user is shown the scheme and somehow I missed it first time around. Its quite an obvious little box one can check that says something like [x] review partitions when through. So apparently Fedora developers also felt it was a good idea to make that info easily available. I think it may even be checked by default. I may have inadvertantly turned it off or something. I'm reinstalling a few times to check out as many aspects of install routines as I can. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 23 03:48:47 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:48:47 -0400 Subject: gimp - conflicts trying to upgrade Message-ID: <41008A9F.8010002@sbcglobal.net> There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: gimp 2.0.3-0.fc2.1 requires libcrlayeng.so.1 gimp 2.0.3-0.fc2.1 requires libcroco.so.1 gimp 2.0.3-0.fc2.1 requires libcrseleng.so.2 Please modify your package selections and try again. gimp-2.0.2-3 is currently installed. From llch at redhat.com Fri Jul 23 05:05:23 2004 From: llch at redhat.com (Leon Ho) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:05:23 +1000 Subject: New utility - system-switch-im Message-ID: <1090559123.2425.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> All, The system-switch-im is the Input Method Switcher. It enables users to easily switch between various input methods that they have installed. It supports to switch from IIIMF input methods and to XIM input methods like kinput2, nabi, xcin, miniChinput. Screenshot: http://people.redhat.com/llch/system-switch-im/Screenshot-System-switch-im.png If you have FC3-test1 or rawhide installed, you are more welcome to test it out. The package should be in rawhide soon, or you can grab them from http://people.redhat.com/llch/system-switch-im/ Let us know if you have any problems. Cheers, Leon From nphilipp at redhat.com Fri Jul 23 09:51:32 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:51:32 +0200 Subject: yum update - dependancy problems In-Reply-To: <1090527168.31316.1.camel@T7.linux> References: <1090527168.31316.1.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1090576292.4393.6.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 22:12, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Trying to do an update on this box (FC3t1) and am hitting the following > dependency problems > > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base > Server: Fedora Core 2 - Development tree > Server: Evolution Devel Snaps > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Released updates > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Updates testing > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package gimp needs libcrlayeng.so.1, this is not available. > Package gimp needs libcroco.so.1, this is not available. > Package gimp needs libcrseleng.so.2, this is not available. > Package subversion needs libswigpy.so, this is not available. > Package gtkhtml3 needs libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10, this is not available. > Package subversion-perl needs libswigpl.so, this is not available. > > Any ideas when these will be sorted? - Mixing stable and development repositories is not a good idea - Development repositories vary in quality between "usable" and "just a pit of random bits" Any questions ;-)? 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So if that's the case, though not a good idea, surely it's not that bad. > - Development repositories vary in quality between "usable" and "just a > pit of random bits" Nah - not seen that before ;-p Hold on, I have, it was called SELinux ;-o > Any questions ;-)? Other than libcroco and libcrlayeng being missing, do you know where I put my collection of rare Elizabethan frog ticklers? I had them yesterday, but after the invasion of orange knee-zepplins (and Debian fanatics), they seem to have vanished like an old oak table. Christ! What is in this coffee? TTFN Paul -- Editor C Vu http://www.accu.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So if that's the case, > though not a good idea, surely it's not that bad. Surely it is. Currently the gimp in fc2-testing is newer than the gimp in devel due to a build system hiccup. Go figure ;-). Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Currently the gimp in fc2-testing is newer than the gimp > in devel due to a build system hiccup. Go figure ;-). Ah right. So, through the miracle of telepathy, us mere mortals should have known that? ;-p Does this also explain why libgtkhtml can't be found? TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nphilipp at redhat.com Fri Jul 23 10:35:46 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:35:46 +0200 Subject: yum update - dependancy problems In-Reply-To: <1090577908.393.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1090527168.31316.1.camel@T7.linux> <1090576292.4393.6.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <1090576915.393.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1090577499.4393.9.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <1090577908.393.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1090578946.4393.17.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 12:18, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > > - Mixing stable and development repositories is not a good idea > > > > > > True, but the newer file is always the file which is downloaded and > > > installed - unless I'm missing something that is. So if that's the case, > > > though not a good idea, surely it's not that bad. > > > > Surely it is. Currently the gimp in fc2-testing is newer than the gimp > > in devel due to a build system hiccup. Go figure ;-). > > Ah right. So, through the miracle of telepathy, us mere mortals should > have known that? ;-p Well through the same means that suggested it would be a good idea to mix stable and devel, yes :-P. > Does this also explain why libgtkhtml can't be found? Not my area of expertise -- maybe, maybe not, who knows? Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 23 11:26:20 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:26:20 -0400 Subject: gimp - conflicts trying to upgrade - (fc2-test repo) In-Reply-To: <1090577801.4393.13.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> References: <41008A9F.8010002@sbcglobal.net> <1090577801.4393.13.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4100F5DC.60103@sbcglobal.net> Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 05:48, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>There was a package dependency problem. The message was: >> >>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: >>gimp 2.0.3-0.fc2.1 requires libcrlayeng.so.1 >>gimp 2.0.3-0.fc2.1 requires libcroco.so.1 >>gimp 2.0.3-0.fc2.1 requires libcrseleng.so.2 >> >>Please modify your package selections and try again. >> >>gimp-2.0.2-3 is currently installed. > > > You use both FC2 stable and FC3 devel repositories. This is not supposed > to work. > > Nils > This is the only program from the FC2 repositories that did not get pulled in (FC2-test). I believe that there were a few from FC2 which did get pulled in without conflicts. It doesn't work in this case. No forced installations of programs were performed since the FC2 clean install. (Fedora Extras, livna, FC2++) Thanks! I'll trim the repository list down from including the FC2 repositories. Either that or enabel SELinux on a clean install. (No outlawed repos) Are we on a 10 day schedule for getting new test versions? (July 13 + 10 = today). I am thinking that waiting until FC3T2 would be better for determining how many problems were solved to date. How well tested is ftp / http installations of current rawhide? Jim From nphilipp at redhat.com Fri Jul 23 11:34:19 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:34:19 +0200 Subject: gimp - conflicts trying to upgrade - (fc2-test repo) In-Reply-To: <4100F5DC.60103@sbcglobal.net> References: <41008A9F.8010002@sbcglobal.net> <1090577801.4393.13.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <4100F5DC.60103@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1090582459.4393.21.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 13:26, Jim Cornette wrote: > Nils Philippsen wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 05:48, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >>There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > >> > >>Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > >>gimp 2.0.3-0.fc2.1 requires libcrlayeng.so.1 > >>gimp 2.0.3-0.fc2.1 requires libcroco.so.1 > >>gimp 2.0.3-0.fc2.1 requires libcrseleng.so.2 > >> > >>Please modify your package selections and try again. > >> > >>gimp-2.0.2-3 is currently installed. > > > > > > You use both FC2 stable and FC3 devel repositories. This is not supposed > > to work. > > > > Nils > > > > This is the only program from the FC2 repositories that did not get > pulled in (FC2-test). I believe that there were a few from FC2 which did > get pulled in without conflicts. > > It doesn't work in this case. No forced installations of programs were > performed since the FC2 clean install. (Fedora Extras, livna, FC2++) I assume that you have got libcroco from FC devel and now gimp from FC2-updates-testing (which is newer than the gimp in FC devel) conflicts with it, so either switch off the FC2 repos or switch off the FC devel one and downgrade your libcroco. Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 From reader at newsguy.com Fri Jul 23 12:10:18 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:10:18 -0500 Subject: [FC3] Fresh install - non-selected pkgs get installed [emacs] Message-ID: After two successfull clean installs yesterday, I noticed in both cases that even though I opted to select pkgs manually, in an `work station' install, and deselected `emacs' from editors group. Emacs was still installed. There was a screen following pkg selection that said something about checking for dependancies, but nothing was displayed as having been added to the install. However, watching the install progress, I see emacs being installed. And on boot-up and running `rpm -qa|grep emacs' I see: emacs-21.3-14 emacs-leim-21.3-14 emacs-common-21.3-14 Should this be bugzilla'ed or am I just missing something at the dependancy check stage? From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri Jul 23 12:31:40 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: gimp - conflicts trying to upgrade - (fc2-test repo) In-Reply-To: <4100F5DC.60103@sbcglobal.net> References: <41008A9F.8010002@sbcglobal.net> <1090577801.4393.13.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <4100F5DC.60103@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <2188.12.29.16.103.1090585900.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Jim Cornette said: [snip] > Are we on a 10 day schedule for getting new test versions? (July 13 + 10 > = today). I am thinking that waiting until FC3T2 would be better for > determining how many problems were solved to date. http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Test 2 isn't scheduled until Sept. 6. -- William Hooper From MHaney at interactsys.com Fri Jul 23 12:34:51 2004 From: MHaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:34:51 -0400 Subject: problem with FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso Message-ID: <4BAF87F9271E404D8CD26F33D7823849FC63FE@mailserver.asheville.interact> $ md5sum FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso 70697f2afff9009836adbd9b7d35a44f FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso $ dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso` | md5sum 70697f2afff9009836adbd9b7d35a44f - 1290800+0 records in 1290800+0 records out Both of these match the sums in http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.90/i386/iso/M D5SUM What am I missing? Tony I actually had the same issue with the first two copies I downloaded. The third one failed the first test and passed the second. I managed to get it to install with no problems, but it is a concern. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fedora at sappsys.co.uk Fri Jul 23 12:37:47 2004 From: fedora at sappsys.co.uk (Andrew Johnson) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:37:47 +0100 Subject: [FC3] Fresh install - non-selected pkgs get installed [emacs] References: Message-ID: <000601c470b1$dbeb4dd0$c969a8c0@dell> Now it's installed, try something like this :- rpm -q --whatrequires emacs no package requires emacs rpm -q --whatrequires syslinux mkbootdisk-1.4.3-1 This should tell you what needed it to be installed. -Andy- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Putnam" To: Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 1:10 PM Subject: [FC3] Fresh install - non-selected pkgs get installed [emacs] > After two successfull clean installs yesterday, I noticed in both > cases that even though I opted to select pkgs manually, in an > `work station' install, and deselected `emacs' from editors group. > Emacs was still installed. > > There was a screen following pkg selection that said something about > checking for dependancies, but nothing was displayed as having been > added to the install. > > However, watching the install progress, I see emacs being installed. > And on boot-up and running `rpm -qa|grep emacs' I see: > > emacs-21.3-14 > emacs-leim-21.3-14 > emacs-common-21.3-14 > > Should this be bugzilla'ed or am I just missing something at the > dependancy check stage? > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From whb at ceimaine.org Fri Jul 23 13:12:07 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:12:07 -0400 Subject: FC3T1 No OO.org, panel icons still exist Message-ID: <1090588327.10968.1.camel@d1ntpm41> Anyone know what I should file this against? Install workstation, but customize software and de-select openoffice.org. Gnome panel still has icons for openoffice.org, which fail (obviously). -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. - A computer is a device used to convert data into error messages. From ivo at vendomar.ee Fri Jul 23 13:25:16 2004 From: ivo at vendomar.ee (Ivo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E4rak?=) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:25:16 +0300 Subject: xterm and erase character In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1090589116.3307.23.camel@sarmax> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 06:51 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > With the changes that are being tried in xterm package, I seem to > need to manually set stty erase to ^H so that stuff works like I > expect it to in X. However setting that in .bashrc like: > > stty erase  > > Causes bad behavior in text mode terminals. I get ^? for backspace > and ^[[3~ for delete key. I have to manually do ^H to get the > desired behavior of deleting one character to the left. > > I've forgotten the standard test for a terminal to know if it is in X > or not but even knowing that I'm wondering if I could set a resource > in ~/.Xresources for xterm, so it would only happen in xterm running > in X. Not to have to bother with it in init files. > > That is, is there a resource setting that will cause erase char to be > ^H (control+H) that can be inserted into ~/.Xresources? > The very same error has implications to various parts of Fedora Core. For the reasons take a look: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122815#c4 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115448 I hope this will get fixed, soon. -- Ivo S?rak From nphilipp at redhat.com Fri Jul 23 13:49:40 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:49:40 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gimp-2.0.3-0.fc2.1 In-Reply-To: <1090515136.21805.24.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> References: <1090515136.21805.24.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1090590580.4393.29.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> Hi all, On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 18:52, Nils Philippsen wrote: > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fedora Test Update Notification > FEDORA-2004-233 > 2004-07-22 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jef notified me that I didn't include an estimated date for release on this one. Barring serious problems with it I plan to release this as final about end of next week. Nudge me if I forget it ;-). Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 From harald at redhat.com Fri Jul 23 14:15:35 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:15:35 +0200 Subject: problem with FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso In-Reply-To: <4BAF87F9271E404D8CD26F33D7823849FC63FE@mailserver.asheville.interact> References: <4BAF87F9271E404D8CD26F33D7823849FC63FE@mailserver.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <41011D87.4050703@redhat.com> burn with -dao Mark Haney wrote: > $ md5sum FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso > 70697f2afff9009836adbd9b7d35a44f FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso > > $ dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s FC3-test1-i386-disc1.iso` | > md5sum > 70697f2afff9009836adbd9b7d35a44f - > 1290800+0 records in > 1290800+0 records out > > Both of these match the sums in > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.90/i386/iso/M > D5SUM > > What am I missing? > > Tony > > I actually had the same issue with the first two copies I downloaded. The > third one failed the first test and passed the second. I managed to get it > to install with no problems, but it is a concern. > > > From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Fri Jul 23 14:25:26 2004 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:25:26 +0200 Subject: perl-5.8.5-1 failing dependency on perl(Carp::Heavy) Message-ID: <1090592726.2423.3.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Hi, On fc3t1 it seems perl-5.8.5-1 has a failing dependency. up2date -u perl Unresolvable chain of dependencies: perl-5.8.5-1 requires perl(Carp::Heavy) Can anyone at RH please be kind enough to fix this so I can continue to up2date my test box :) Cheers, Patrick From dcastle at carolina.rr.com Fri Jul 23 16:50:10 2004 From: dcastle at carolina.rr.com (Dwaine Castle) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:50:10 -0400 Subject: LVM & Disk Druid FC3-T1 Message-ID: <042001c470d5$1f4dbdb0$6401a8c0@DCXP> Fedora Core 3 test 1 Has anybody successfully created an LVM volume using Disk Druid? I've tried 2 times and failed. Each time I get a fsck.ext3 error after the install reboot. The lv & vg commands report no errors, but fsck reports that the superblock is corrupt or that the /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 does not exist which is true. I have an entry in fstab, but there isn't any /etc/lvmtab file. I've deleted then recreated PVs, LVs, & VGs from the rescue command prompt, but the results are the same. Thanks you. Dwaine From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri Jul 23 16:57:47 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:57:47 +0100 Subject: yum.conf Message-ID: <1090601867.16974.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, Following the recommendation from Nils, I've altered my yum file to below. Is this right for me to get the development branch? TTFN Paul [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=redhat-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 #[base] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base #baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/ #[updates-released] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates #baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch/ [updates-testing] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch/ [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ #[evolution] #name=Evolution developer snap #baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm #[mono] #name=Mono #baseurl=http://www.go-mono.com/archive/yum-repository/fedora-2-i386 -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From perbj at stanford.edu Fri Jul 23 19:46:59 2004 From: perbj at stanford.edu (Per Bjornsson) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:46:59 -0700 Subject: TEST: gstreamer-0.8.3-2 & gstreamer-plugins-0.8.2-2 In-Reply-To: <1090335237.14101.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> References: <1089212438.29706.6.camel@nexus.verbum.private> <1090335237.14101.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: <1090612018.2957.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 07:53, Colin Walters wrote: > I've now pushed gstreamer-plugins-0.8.2-2.1 which should fix the pausing > issues in Rhythmbox. Please let me know if this works for you too, if > there are no problems I'll finally get these updates out for real in the > next few days :) I never actually found this package in updates-testing (and I still can't actually), but now it showed up in updates-released and it seems to work fine for me in any case. All I did to test right now was seeking around in Rhythmbox using alsasink for output, but that's what triggered the problem in the first place so I guess it all seems good... Thanks a lot! Per -- Per Bjornsson Ph.D. Candidate, Department of Applied Physics, Stanford University From nphilipp at redhat.com Fri Jul 23 20:14:52 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:14:52 +0200 Subject: yum.conf In-Reply-To: <1090601867.16974.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1090601867.16974.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1090613692.26879.3.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 18:57, Paul wrote: > [updates-testing] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates > baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch/ Comment out updates-testing as well, it's not updates for test releases (as the name might suggest) but test releases of updates for the stable release ;-). > [development] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree > baseurl=http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ This channel alone should suffice to get the development updates when they're available -- there is no such thing as a base repository plus updates repositories here, just one that keeps it all. Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From reader at newsguy.com Fri Jul 23 21:41:49 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:41:49 -0500 Subject: [FC3] Fresh install - non-selected pkgs get installed [emacs] References: <000601c470b1$dbeb4dd0$c969a8c0@dell> Message-ID: "Andrew Johnson" writes: > Now it's installed, try something like this :- > > rpm -q --whatrequires emacs > no package requires emacs > > rpm -q --whatrequires syslinux > mkbootdisk-1.4.3-1 > > This should tell you what needed it to be installed. Yes, thanks. I know how to find that info. In my case it is the psgml pkg. However, the point of my post was not to find out why after the install is complete but to know about it when it happens during install. Maybe I just overlooked some option that would have shown me added dependancy pkgs... but in many many installs over the years, of rh and now fed, I was always shown what deps were being added. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 23 22:10:10 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:10:10 -0400 Subject: was gimp - Test2 - Sept 6 - maybe In-Reply-To: <2188.12.29.16.103.1090585900.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <41008A9F.8010002@sbcglobal.net> <1090577801.4393.13.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <4100F5DC.60103@sbcglobal.net> <2188.12.29.16.103.1090585900.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <41018CC2.7060007@sbcglobal.net> William Hooper wrote: > Jim Cornette said: > [snip] > >>Are we on a 10 day schedule for getting new test versions? (July 13 + 10 >>= today). I am thinking that waiting until FC3T2 would be better for >>determining how many problems were solved to date. > > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > > Test 2 isn't scheduled until Sept. 6. > Thanks! I looked at the schedule page today and did not see the date. It leaves plenty of time to try out alternative installation setups. With all the updates since early release. I think an ftp/http install w/ SELinux enabled. This worked out great for FC2 tests. (No repos, except development this go) Jim From chrismcc at pricegrabber.com Fri Jul 23 23:05:05 2004 From: chrismcc at pricegrabber.com (Christopher McCrory) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:05:05 -0700 Subject: perl-5.8.5-1 failing dependency on perl(Carp::Heavy) In-Reply-To: <1090592726.2423.3.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1090592726.2423.3.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1090623905.2405.63.camel@wednesday.pricegrabber.com> Hello... On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 07:25, Patrick wrote: > Hi, > > On fc3t1 it seems perl-5.8.5-1 has a failing dependency. > > up2date -u perl > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > perl-5.8.5-1 requires perl(Carp::Heavy) > > Can anyone at RH please be kind enough to fix this so I can continue to > up2date my test box :) > yum --exclude perl update man yum pkgSkipList=kernel*,perl; man up2date > Cheers, > Patrick -- Christopher McCrory "The guy that keeps the servers running" chrismcc at pricegrabber.com http://www.pricegrabber.com Let's face it, there's no Hollow Earth, no robots, and no 'mute rays.' And even if there were, waxed paper is no defense. I tried it. Only tinfoil works. From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sat Jul 24 04:51:36 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:51:36 -0400 Subject: system-config-printer fails on rawhide of 7/23/04 Message-ID: <20040724045136.GA14083@wolves.durham.nc.us> Bugzilla #128523 System-config-printer fails to initialize, seeking something in foomatic. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sat Jul 24 04:53:27 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:53:27 -0400 Subject: vim (vi) fails to open libperl.so Message-ID: <20040724045327.GA14110@wolves.durham.nc.us> Fresh install of rawhide/development/fc3t1+ results in a vim install that can't run due to a missing "libperl.so" library. Bugzilla #128524 -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From reader at newsguy.com Sat Jul 24 06:07:52 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:07:52 -0500 Subject: xterm and erase character In-Reply-To: <1090589116.3307.23.camel@sarmax> (Ivo =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A4rak's?= message of "Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:25:16 +0300") References: <1090589116.3307.23.camel@sarmax> Message-ID: Ivo S?rak writes: >> That is, is there a resource setting that will cause erase char to be >> ^H (control+H) that can be inserted into ~/.Xresources? >> > > The very same error has implications to various parts of Fedora Core. > For the reasons take a look: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122815#c4 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115448 > > I hope this will get fixed, soon. Egad what a mess reported there. But several posters seemed to be saying the old xterm-redhat sidstepped most of the mess. I wonder how we could use it for now until they settle on a fix or the much more complicated other issues? From marian_kopala at wp.pl Sat Jul 24 08:17:26 2004 From: marian_kopala at wp.pl (Marian Kopala) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:17:26 +0200 Subject: Package perl Message-ID: <1090657046.3235.5.camel@amigos> Welcome! Update FC3 T1: yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree Server: Evolution 2 - Test Server: JPackage 1.5 for Fedora Core 2 Server: JPackage 1.5, generic Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Released Updates Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Unreleased Updates Finding updated packages Resolving dependencies ....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package perl needs perl(Carp::Heavy), this is not available. Regards, Marian From russell at coker.com.au Sat Jul 24 11:13:10 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:13:10 +1000 Subject: LVM & Disk Druid FC3-T1 In-Reply-To: <042001c470d5$1f4dbdb0$6401a8c0@DCXP> References: <042001c470d5$1f4dbdb0$6401a8c0@DCXP> Message-ID: <200407242113.10169.russell@coker.com.au> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 02:50, "Dwaine Castle" wrote: > Has anybody successfully created an LVM volume using Disk Druid? I've > tried 2 times and failed. Each time I get a fsck.ext3 error after the > install reboot. The lv & vg commands report no errors, but fsck reports > that the superblock is corrupt or that the /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 does > not exist which is true. I have an entry in fstab, but there isn't any > /etc/lvmtab file. I have installed a FC3T1 machine with the root device being /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-fc3t1 and then installed FC2 on there in a dual-boot configuration with a root of /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-fc2 . The only problem I had was a lack of user-friendlyness of the LVM part of the interface. I had to select the volume group and then select "edit" to add a new LV. The most logical option of "new" didn't seem to work, neither did clicking on the "LVM" button. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From karsten at redhat.com Sat Jul 24 12:26:48 2004 From: karsten at redhat.com (Karsten Hopp) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:26:48 +0200 Subject: vim (vi) fails to open libperl.so In-Reply-To: <20040724045327.GA14110@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040724045327.GA14110@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <20040724122648.GC7124@redhat.com> > Fresh install of rawhide/development/fc3t1+ results in a vim install > that can't run due to a missing "libperl.so" library. > > Bugzilla #128524 > Welcome to Rawhide ! These things happen from time to time and will be fixed by a simple rebuilt of the package when the new perl package is installed on our buildmachines. Karsten -- Karsten Hopp GPG 1024D/70ABD02C Fingerprint D2D4 3B6B 2DE4 464C A432 210A DFF8 A140 70AB D02C Red Hat Deutschland, Hauptstaetter Str.58 70178 Stuttgart, Tel.+49-711-96437-0, Fax +49-711-96437-111 From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sat Jul 24 12:35:35 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 08:35:35 -0400 Subject: vim (vi) fails to open libperl.so In-Reply-To: <20040724122648.GC7124@redhat.com> References: <20040724045327.GA14110@wolves.durham.nc.us> <20040724122648.GC7124@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040724123535.GA16809@wolves.durham.nc.us> On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:26:48PM +0200, Karsten Hopp wrote: > > > Fresh install of rawhide/development/fc3t1+ results in a vim install > > that can't run due to a missing "libperl.so" library. > > > > Bugzilla #128524 > > > > Welcome to Rawhide ! > These things happen from time to time and will be fixed by a simple rebuilt > of the package when the new perl package is installed on our buildmachines. > > Karsten Thanks for the welcome, but I'm a long time tester of Rawhide and FC test releases. The notice is posted as a warning to others and an (implicit) inquiry if anyone else has seen the bugs. So, I presume that perl is due for an update? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From karsten at redhat.com Sat Jul 24 12:45:50 2004 From: karsten at redhat.com (Karsten Hopp) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:45:50 +0200 Subject: vim (vi) fails to open libperl.so In-Reply-To: <20040724123535.GA16809@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040724045327.GA14110@wolves.durham.nc.us> <20040724122648.GC7124@redhat.com> <20040724123535.GA16809@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <20040724124550.GE7124@redhat.com> > > Thanks for the welcome, but I'm a long time tester of Rawhide and FC > test releases. The notice is posted as a warning to others and an > (implicit) inquiry if anyone else has seen the bugs. So, I presume that > perl is due for an update? I think the new perl is already in rawhide, it just didn't make it to our buildmachines yet ;-( Karsten -- Karsten Hopp GPG 1024D/70ABD02C Fingerprint D2D4 3B6B 2DE4 464C A432 210A DFF8 A140 70AB D02C Red Hat Deutschland, Hauptstaetter Str.58 70178 Stuttgart, Tel.+49-711-96437-0, Fax +49-711-96437-111 From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 24 12:53:49 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 08:53:49 -0400 Subject: FTP Upgrade - GNOME "greeting" Message-ID: <41025BDD.10300@sbcglobal.net> After performing an upgrade via Anaconda from an FTP site and then launching GNOME for the first time. I was greeted with an error pop-up. There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The Settings Daemon restarted too many times. The last error message was: Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in. Attached is a trunced upgrade log. Packages available, but not installed were removed. The sound works without having to adjust volume level. NCSU was the source for the upgrade. The trouble causing gtkhtml3 package was installed with the upgrade. The only packages available forupdate were non-devel repos. Jim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ftp-0723-upgrade.log Type: text/x-log Size: 5061 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reader at newsguy.com Sat Jul 24 12:58:09 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 07:58:09 -0500 Subject: Yike I forgot to save grub.conf setting for text mode settings Message-ID: Before installing FC3 I saved nearly everything usable from an running FC2, but foolishly forgot about /boot/grub.conf. I had some trick string on the kernel line that caused a smaller character size in non-x terminals something like 0x318 or similar. Where can I look up those notations and how they relate to character size? There must be a chart somewhere that shows how many lines veritically and how many chars horizontally one gets. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 24 13:02:52 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 09:02:52 -0400 Subject: Package perl In-Reply-To: <1090657046.3235.5.camel@amigos> References: <1090657046.3235.5.camel@amigos> Message-ID: <41025DFC.3040902@sbcglobal.net> Marian Kopala wrote: > Welcome! > > Update FC3 T1: > > yum update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base > Server: Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree > Server: Evolution 2 - Test > Server: JPackage 1.5 for Fedora Core 2 > Server: JPackage 1.5, generic > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Released Updates > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Unreleased Updates > Finding updated packages > > Resolving dependencies > ....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package perl needs perl(Carp::Heavy), this is not available. > > Regards, > > Marian > > I have perl installed after the upgrade and am running rpm -q perl perl-5.8.5-1 Though the below errors are python related and are generated when up2date is launched. (Up2date still works fine). Forcing perl to install might be chancy. What programs that use perl heavily should be tested out. Iam guessing the GNOME greeting is perl related. Jim Up2date xterm output minus usual output to terminal below. /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.create_pixmap is deprecated, use gtk.gdk.Pixmap instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use gtk.main_iteration instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/checklist.py:139: DeprecationWarning: integer argument expected, got float From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Jul 24 13:20:01 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:20:01 +0100 Subject: RPMs missing from rawhide Message-ID: <1090675201.3215.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, The following seem to be missing from rawhide gtkhtml3 needs libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 vim-enhanced needs /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi perl needs perl(Carp::Heavy) Now, I know about the gtkhtml3 one (it's been covered a few times), but I wasn't aware of the perl problems. Is that down to my box or is it a rawhide problem. TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I performed 'apropos carp', got back some info about carp::heavy, but this isn't a separate package AFAICT. The libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 is odd, because the gtkhtml3 supplies libgtkhtml-3.1.so.11. I figure the package needs to be rebuilt due to the package requires field is in error. Scott From marian_kopala at wp.pl Sat Jul 24 16:01:30 2004 From: marian_kopala at wp.pl (Marian Kopala) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:01:30 +0200 Subject: RPMs missing from rawhide In-Reply-To: <1090675201.3215.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1090675201.3215.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1090684890.3845.6.camel@amigos> Dnia 24-07-2004, sob o godzinie 14:20 +0100, Paul napisa?(a): > Hi, > > The following seem to be missing from rawhide > > gtkhtml3 needs libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 1). http://rpm.pbone.net/ 2). search: libgtkhtml-3.1.so.10 3). Install: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1305209/com/libgtkhtml3.1_10-3.1.16.0.200406260627-0.snap.ximian.6.1.i386.rpm.html RedHat 9!!! Regards, Marian From dsavage at peaknet.net Sat Jul 24 19:20:42 2004 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:20:42 -0500 Subject: Yike I forgot to save grub.conf setting for text mode settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1090696842.4706.47.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 07:58, Harry Putnam wrote: > Before installing FC3 I saved nearly everything usable from an running > FC2, but foolishly forgot about /boot/grub.conf. > > I had some trick string on the kernel line that caused a smaller > character size in non-x terminals something like 0x318 or similar. > > Where can I look up those notations and how they relate to character > size? There must be a chart somewhere that shows how many lines > veritically and how many chars horizontally one gets. Harry, Are you looking for the VESA modes? There is a hex listing in /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc/2.4.xxx/fb/vesafb.txt. If you used vga=0x318, you got a 1024x768x16M graphic screen, whose smaller characters show you a lot more than the standard 80x25 character mode screen: | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 ----+------------------------------------- 256 | 0x101 0x103 0x105 0x107 32k | 0x110 0x113 0x116 0x119 64k | 0x111 0x114 0x117 0x11A 16M | 0x112 0x115 0x118 0x11B The video mode number of the Linux kernel is the VESA mode number plus 0x200. Linux_kernel_mode_number = VESA_mode_number + 0x200 So the table for the Kernel mode numbers are: | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 ----+------------------------------------- 256 | 0x301 0x303 0x305 0x307 32k | 0x310 0x313 0x316 0x319 64k | 0x311 0x314 0x317 0x31A 16M | 0x312 0x315 0x318 0x31B ^^^^^ I use vga=795 (decimal), which is the same as vga=0x31B. --Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 1 kernel 2.4.22-1.2197.nptl on P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From reader at newsguy.com Sat Jul 24 20:06:54 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 15:06:54 -0500 Subject: Yike I forgot to save grub.conf setting for text mode settings In-Reply-To: <1090696842.4706.47.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> (Robert G. Savage's message of "Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:20:42 -0500") References: <1090696842.4706.47.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" writes: > Harry, > > Are you looking for the VESA modes? There is a hex listing in > /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc/2.4.xxx/fb/vesafb.txt. If you used vga=0x318, > you got a 1024x768x16M graphic screen, whose smaller characters show you > a lot more than the standard 80x25 character mode screen: Yup, I knew I'd seen something like that before.. Thanks Doc that was a full and usefull answer.... From cfzeitler at yahoo.com Sat Jul 24 20:18:26 2004 From: cfzeitler at yahoo.com (charles f. zeitler) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: more dependencies weirdness Message-ID: <20040724201826.48417.qmail@web80401.mail.yahoo.com> the first time i logged on (to fc3t1) there was 246(iirc) updates- with a depency hangup which i resolved by excluding balsa. now it seems there are 96, which hang on libbtctl & bluetooth, both require libsdp.so.2, (not available!) & attempts to exclude them ( yum --exclude=libbtctl --exclude=bluetooth update ) does no good. rpm reports libsdp.so.2 is supplied by bluez-libs-2.7-2, which it says is installed. cfzeitler ===== : Do What Thou Wilt : : Shall Be : : The Whole of The Law : From reg at dwf.com Sat Jul 24 23:59:08 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (Reg Clemens) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:59:08 -0600 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) Message-ID: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> Here is something we have all needed for some time. Getting all the information is going to take some time, but it will be worth it... ALL Programs in FC3 should have a new section in their MAN pages listing the ports they use. These days all of us are sitting behind a Firewall, and I find it a real pain having to go search to find out what ports a given program might assume are 'open'. Getting this information listed in one place would be a great help. -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 25 01:36:28 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:36:28 -0400 Subject: mc - B/W in root gnome-terminal - design or problem? Message-ID: <41030E9C.3000406@sbcglobal.net> I noticed that running mc in a root terminal su- not su without the - causes mc to be displayed in b/w. I don't see this behavior in a regular user either. Running mc in a normal screen shell is displayed in color. I believe mutt and other programs do the same thing. running setup displays in color. Is anyone else seeing something like this? Out of curiousity, I tried the experiment in xterm. mc and mutt were b/w for any user. Jim From michel.salim at gmail.com Sun Jul 25 02:04:27 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:04:27 +0700 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) In-Reply-To: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <883cfe6d04072419047788f849@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:59:08 -0600, Reg Clemens wrote: > Here is something we have all needed for some time. > Getting all the information is going to take some time, but > it will be worth it... > > ALL Programs in FC3 should have a new section in their MAN > pages listing the ports they use. > Better still... have a global used_port file or directory that is populated on-the-fly by programs that need to open a port? Then to find out which port an app might be using, you cat used_ports | grep `rpm -qf packagename` - Michel From cra at WPI.EDU Sun Jul 25 02:10:45 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:10:45 -0400 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d04072419047788f849@mail.gmail.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <883cfe6d04072419047788f849@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 09:04:27AM +0700, Michel Salim wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:59:08 -0600, Reg Clemens wrote: > > ALL Programs in FC3 should have a new section in their MAN > > pages listing the ports they use. > Better still... have a global used_port file or directory that is > populated on-the-fly by programs that need to open a port? What's wrong with netstat? netstat -nlp netstat -nap The problem with a list, is that port numbers may be dynamically allocated at runtime. From michel.salim at gmail.com Sun Jul 25 04:05:36 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:05:36 +0700 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) In-Reply-To: <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <883cfe6d04072419047788f849@mail.gmail.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:10:45 -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 09:04:27AM +0700, Michel Salim wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:59:08 -0600, Reg Clemens wrote: > > > ALL Programs in FC3 should have a new section in their MAN > > > pages listing the ports they use. > > Better still... have a global used_port file or directory that is > > populated on-the-fly by programs that need to open a port? > > What's wrong with netstat? > > netstat -nlp > netstat -nap > > The problem with a list, is that port numbers may be dynamically > allocated at runtime. > > True, though some applications (like Bittorrent and aMule, which are prime candidates for a sysadmin to block) have preferred port ranges. It would be nice to be able to look up all port information in one place. The problem with using netstat is, of course, that it only works for applications already running? - Michel From lsomike at futzin.com Sun Jul 25 04:27:21 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:27:21 -0500 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 24 July 2004 23:05, Michel Salim wrote: > True, though some applications (like Bittorrent and aMule, which > are prime candidates for a sysadmin to block) have preferred port > ranges. It would be nice to be able to look up all port information > in one place. > > The problem with using netstat is, of course, that it only works > for applications already running? > > - Michel /etc/services is probably a great start ?? Regards, Mike Klinke From katzj at redhat.com Sun Jul 25 06:11:02 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:11:02 -0400 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> Message-ID: <1090735862.2204.7.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 11:06 +0200, Bjorn Andersen wrote: > It would be a god idea to have Anaconda detect what primary bootdevice > from the bios. (like SuSE) Unfortunately, there isn't really a standard and reliable way of doing this until BIOS manufacturers (reliably) implement EDD 3.0. At the same time, there's the beginning of implementing some ability to try and do a better job of guessing based on reading a field from the MBR that's can contain a fingerprint for the disk both in real mode and saving it in the kernel and then checking that against what I later get. Some developers at Dell have helpfully provided the first bits of this and it will just require a little bit more work on my part to get this working once I return from OLS. Unfortunately, it still won't be guaranteed and there will still be cases where the user has to intervene :( Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Sun Jul 25 06:12:15 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:12:15 -0400 Subject: SATA boot whish for FC3 In-Reply-To: <200407210822.31420.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <20040720210258.AB00854E3CD@plmssa02.academy.com> <200407210746.25872.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <20040721151108.GB5140@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <200407210822.31420.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <1090735935.2204.10.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 08:22 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wednesday 21 July 2004 08:11, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Actually, there is work being done on using EDD to determine the BIOS's > > notion of the boot drive. > > I'm sure thats an ugly can of worms, especially how a lot of broken bioses > can't report the disk size right. I see this is a great potential to > expose more buggy bioses. This is why the EDD related stuff that I'm working on/with doesn't really depend on the BIOS to do much of anything ;-) Jeremy From dsavage at peaknet.net Sun Jul 25 06:33:44 2004 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 01:33:44 -0500 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) In-Reply-To: <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <1090737224.4706.70.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 23:27, Mike Klinke wrote: > On Saturday 24 July 2004 23:05, Michel Salim wrote: > > > True, though some applications (like Bittorrent and aMule, which > > are prime candidates for a sysadmin to block) have preferred port > > ranges. It would be nice to be able to look up all port information > > in one place. > > > > The problem with using netstat is, of course, that it only works > > for applications already running? > > > > - Michel > > /etc/services is probably a great start ?? So is RFC1700.txt. Although nearly ten years old and now badly out of date, this "Internet Standard 2" remains the most comprehensive single list of services. Its editor, Jon Postel, was _the_ Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA). Jon died of a heart attack in October 1998 before he could update it. (See also Vint Cerf's RFC2468.txt.) --Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 1 kernel 2.4.22-1.2197.nptl on P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun Jul 25 06:52:11 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 08:52:11 +0200 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) In-Reply-To: <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> Mike Klinke wrote: >On Saturday 24 July 2004 23:05, Michel Salim wrote: > > > >>True, though some applications (like Bittorrent and aMule, which >>are prime candidates for a sysadmin to block) >> you should know the few ports of the applications you have to allow and all others should be blocked. >>have preferred port >>ranges. It would be nice to be able to look up all port information >>in one place. >> >>The problem with using netstat is, of course, that it only works >>for applications already running? >> >>- Michel >> >> > >/etc/services is probably a great start ?? > i prefer the nmap list /usr/share/nmap/nmap-services -- shrek-m From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Sun Jul 25 07:45:11 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 03:45:11 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> Hi, Regarding Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers, I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I've noticed some nasty problems with this kernel release (the rpm) and the Nvidia drivers while running Quake3 based games. First of all, performance is terrible. I could barely get Return to Castle Wolfenstein to run acceptably at 800x600x32 despite the fact that normally, it runs flawlessly on my Geforce2go at 1024x768x32 under normal circumstances. Secondly, it seems that some of the hardware lighting instructions break under this kernel. After fooling around with some things to try to fix this problem, I noticed that the kacpid process crashes for some reason, causing it to race and use >50% cpu. I did some looking around and noticed that some people have had issues with the PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY patch that was applied to this kernel and had a hunch that perhaps this patch was in some way screwing up the ACPI subsystem in the kernel. Rather than follow the same old mantra of adding an acpi=off line to grub (especially since this machine is a laptop), I rebuilt the kernel _without_ PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY and with PREEMPT and voila, the problems disappeared. kacpid stopped crashing and 3d under q3 based games worked wonderfully with no apparent performance hit to my setup. I hope that if anyone else runs across this problem that this will help them and that perhaps it could help lead to a bug fix for this. -brian From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun Jul 25 11:07:19 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 07:07:19 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> Message-ID: <200407250707.19794.ernesto@ornl.gov> On Sunday 25 July 2004 03:45, Brian R Smith wrote: > Hi, > > Regarding Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers, > > I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I've noticed some > nasty problems with this kernel release (the rpm) and the Nvidia drivers > while running Quake3 based games. > > First of all, performance is terrible. I could barely get Return to > Castle Wolfenstein to run acceptably at 800x600x32 despite the fact that > normally, it runs flawlessly on my Geforce2go at 1024x768x32 under > normal circumstances. Secondly, it seems that some of the hardware > lighting instructions break under this kernel. > > After fooling around with some things to try to fix this problem, I > noticed that the kacpid process crashes for some reason, causing it to > race and use >50% cpu. > > I did some looking around and noticed that some people have had issues > with the PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY patch that was applied to this kernel and had > a hunch that perhaps this patch was in some way screwing up the ACPI > subsystem in the kernel. What is the purpose of "PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY" ? > Rather than follow the same old mantra of > adding an acpi=off line to grub (especially since this machine is a > laptop), I rebuilt the kernel _without_ PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY and with > PREEMPT and voila, the problems disappeared. kacpid stopped crashing > and 3d under q3 based games worked wonderfully with no apparent > performance hit to my setup. Would be nice if we can get "preempt=on/off" on the grub line, eh? > > I hope that if anyone else runs across this problem that this will help > them and that perhaps it could help lead to a bug fix for this. Maybe, I should try the NVIDIA again. I have not been able to get NVIDIA 3D support going since the "2.6.6-1.368" kernel, I think. > > > -brian -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. SNS Control Systems Group (865) 591-0183 ORNL From jacbur at optonline.net Sun Jul 25 12:27:10 2004 From: jacbur at optonline.net (Jack Burge) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 08:27:10 -0400 Subject: Installing FC3 Test 1 x86-64 on Asus K8V Message-ID: <001d01c47242$b4eac7f0$64c8a8c0@jack> I am having trouble installing FC3 Test 1 on an Asus K8V mother board. When the installation gets to the loading of the "sata-via driver" the installation just stalls at this point. Has anyone else had this problem, if so how did you solve it? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From mullens at ntlworld.com Sun Jul 25 12:58:47 2004 From: mullens at ntlworld.com (richard mullens) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 13:58:47 +0100 Subject: FC3T1 - On install, can't open optional ports in Firewall Message-ID: <4103AE87.4070605@ntlworld.com> When I did an install, Telnet was no longer available as an option in the firewall setting and I didn't see a window to specify other ports. The help referred to the screen as it was in FC2 and didn't suggest how ports might be opened after Install. I guess that a common requirement would be to allow other systems to use a printer attached to the installed system. From mullens at ntlworld.com Sun Jul 25 13:10:11 2004 From: mullens at ntlworld.com (richard mullens) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:10:11 +0100 Subject: FC3T1 - After Install, can no longer SSH into system from FC1 Message-ID: <4103B133.2000809@ntlworld.com> I did a clean install of FC3T1 on a machine that had FC1 on it. Afterwards another machine (installed with FC1) would no longer SSH into the machine. The FC1 advice on overcoming this wasn't helpful to a newbie. Of course this is a problem with FC1. Don't know if this happens on FC3T1. In retrospect, I guess it would have helped if I'd chosen a different IP address (or ethernet card ?). From mullens at ntlworld.com Sun Jul 25 13:25:48 2004 From: mullens at ntlworld.com (richard mullens) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:25:48 +0100 Subject: FC3T1 - Prelink - System Hang every night c 04:30 Message-ID: <4103B4DC.9080208@ntlworld.com> My system (Duron 850) hangs every night at about 04:30. System doesn't respond to mouse movement, keystroke, Control alt anything or PING. The time in the botton right hand of X display is the same as (or 1 minute later than) the timestamp of /var/log/prelink. (Frozen) top shows "makewhatis" and prelink running recently. Last message in /var/log/prelink always (so far):- "warning /usr/lib/lib???.so??? has undefined non-weak symbols. This problem doesn't affect an other machine I have running FC3T1, and perhaps, tonight, now that I have shut the case and added an extra fan, it will go away. However,I'd be interested to know the purpose of this nightly activity - and the consequences were I to inhibit it. From reader at newsguy.com Sun Jul 25 15:15:31 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:15:31 -0500 Subject: FC3T1 - Prelink - System Hang every night c 04:30 In-Reply-To: <4103B4DC.9080208@ntlworld.com> (richard mullens's message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:25:48 +0100") References: <4103B4DC.9080208@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: richard mullens writes: > However,I'd be interested > to know the purpose of this nightly activity - and the consequences were > I to inhibit it. You can get some info from /etc/crontab [...] # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly Note what is run at 4:02am /etc/cron.daily weekly and monthy all ran around 4:+am Now look inside /etc/cron.daily/ at the programs in there. slocate and makewhatis are both heavy hitters in terms of cpu usage and probably prime candates. They update a rather hefty data base I think One of them is the data based used for the `locate' command. It keeps daily track of where files are. Not sure what `prelink' is.... mentioned in your post. From reader at newsguy.com Sun Jul 25 15:18:47 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:18:47 -0500 Subject: FC3T1 - After Install, can no longer SSH into system from FC1 References: <4103B133.2000809@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: richard mullens writes: > The FC1 advice on overcoming this wasn't helpful to a newbie. > Of course this is a problem with FC1. Don't know if this happens on FC3T1. It sounds FC3 related to me if as you say, it worked before installing FC3. One way to get some better info is to run ssh -vv from the F1 box and post the output. From janina at rednote.net Sun Jul 25 15:32:25 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:32:25 -0400 Subject: grpconv: Out Of Memory Message-ID: <20040725153225.GA23970@rednote.net> I'm trying to dip my toe into ldap. So, I've tried using authconfig and checking ldap. After 'next' the system becomes very busy for about 2 minutes. Eventually I see the following in /var/log/messages: kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 31691 (grpconv). and authconf closes. Looking at top during this I see most of my 2 Gb of Ram and 2 Gb of swap used, and about 25% cpu as well. Can anyone shed light on this? Is there a bug here? Or, should this tool run only after some by-hand configuration of ldap/slapd? From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun Jul 25 16:20:27 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:20:27 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> Message-ID: <1090772428.22028.8.camel@duergar> On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 03:45 -0400, Brian R Smith wrote: > Hi, > > Regarding Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers, > > I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I've noticed some > nasty problems with this kernel release (the rpm) and the Nvidia drivers > while running Quake3 based games. > Then consult nVidia? What version of the drivers are you using? I'm currently using NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run with 2.6.7-1.476 without issue. > First of all, performance is terrible. I could barely get Return to > Castle Wolfenstein to run acceptably at 800x600x32 despite the fact that > normally, it runs flawlessly on my Geforce2go at 1024x768x32 under > normal circumstances. Secondly, it seems that some of the hardware > lighting instructions break under this kernel. > This seems like it would be a driver problem... > After fooling around with some things to try to fix this problem, I > noticed that the kacpid process crashes for some reason, causing it to > race and use >50% cpu. > Then wouldn't one assume ACPI might be the prob? There have been numerous ACPI in the 2.6.8rcX kernels so this will prolly go away with the next kernel RPM release... > I did some looking around and noticed that some people have had issues > with the PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY patch that was applied to this kernel and had > a hunch that perhaps this patch was in some way screwing up the ACPI How about ACPI is screwing up because of ACPI bugs? Preemt Voluntary has some issues here, but none are related to video and none are fatal. Seems to work GREAT 90% of the time. > subsystem in the kernel. Rather than follow the same old mantra of > adding an acpi=off line to grub (especially since this machine is a > laptop), I rebuilt the kernel _without_ PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY and with Are you sure your laptop's ACPI implementation is sane? Speaking of which you don't mention the laptop brand or hardware at all... > PREEMPT and voila, the problems disappeared. kacpid stopped crashing > and 3d under q3 based games worked wonderfully with no apparent > performance hit to my setup. > There is a newer preempt voluntary in later 2.6.8rcX kernels which fix many issues according to Igno, so...whatever just stick to preempt I guess the whole point of preempt voluntary is to improve desktop performance... > I hope that if anyone else runs across this problem that this will help > them and that perhaps it could help lead to a bug fix for this. > It's probably already been fixed. > > -brian > > -sb -- Stan Bubrouski From cra at WPI.EDU Sun Jul 25 16:36:15 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:36:15 -0400 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) In-Reply-To: <1090737224.4706.70.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <1090737224.4706.70.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> Message-ID: <20040725163615.GC18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 01:33:44AM -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > So is RFC1700.txt. Although nearly ten years old and now badly out of > date, this "Internet Standard 2" remains the most comprehensive single RFC1700 is obsoleted by IANA's Assigned Numbers document: http://www.iana.org/numbers.html From dsavage at peaknet.net Sun Jul 25 16:57:37 2004 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:57:37 -0500 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) In-Reply-To: <20040725163615.GC18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <1090737224.4706.70.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> <20040725163615.GC18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <1090774656.4706.72.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 11:36, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 01:33:44AM -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > So is RFC1700.txt. Although nearly ten years old and now badly out of > > date, this "Internet Standard 2" remains the most comprehensive single > > RFC1700 is obsoleted by IANA's Assigned Numbers document: > > http://www.iana.org/numbers.html Charles, Great find. Thanks! --Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 1 kernel 2.4.22-1.2197.nptl on P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From mullens at ntlworld.com Sun Jul 25 16:00:16 2004 From: mullens at ntlworld.com (richard mullens) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:00:16 +0100 Subject: FC3T1 - After Install, can no longer SSH into system from FC1 References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <1090737224.4706.70.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> <20040725163615.GC18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <4103D910.9010009@ntlworld.com> Harry Putnam writes: > richard mullens writes: >> The FC1 advice on overcoming this wasn't helpful to a newbie. >> Of course this is a problem with FC1. Don't know if this happens on FC3T1. > It sounds FC3 related to me if as you say, it worked before installing FC3. > One way to get some better info is to run ssh -vv from the FC1 box > and post the output. Thanks for your remarks. Here is the output that you suggested that I post:- OpenSSH_3.6.1p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090701f debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted. debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to 192.168.0.25 [192.168.0.25] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/richard/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/richard/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/richard/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc at lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160 at openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug2: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 131/256 debug2: bits set: 1055/2048 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed. The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is 13:af:4d:8e:e9:eb:18:6c:f2:9c:6a:d6:ce:44:db:e2. Please contact your system administrator. Add correct host key in /home/richard/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message. Offending key in /home/richard/.ssh/known_hosts:4 RSA host key for 192.168.0.25 has changed and you have requested strict checking. Host key verification failed. debug1: Calling cleanup 0x8062d10(0x0) From cra at WPI.EDU Sun Jul 25 19:29:32 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:29:32 -0400 Subject: FC3T1 - After Install, can no longer SSH into system from FC1 In-Reply-To: <4103D910.9010009@ntlworld.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <1090737224.4706.70.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> <20040725163615.GC18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <4103D910.9010009@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20040725192932.GD18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 05:00:16PM +0100, richard mullens wrote: > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! > Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! > It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed. > The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is > 13:af:4d:8e:e9:eb:18:6c:f2:9c:6a:d6:ce:44:db:e2. > Please contact your system administrator. > Add correct host key in /home/richard/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this > message. > Offending key in /home/richard/.ssh/known_hosts:4 > RSA host key for 192.168.0.25 has changed and you have requested strict > checking. > Host key verification failed. You have an SSH host key cached for that IP address/hostname that is different from the SSH host key on the freshly installed system with that IP/hostname. Delete line 4 from your .ssh/known_hosts file to get rid of the stale cached value. From reader at newsguy.com Sun Jul 25 19:35:03 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:35:03 -0500 Subject: FC3T1 - After Install, can no longer SSH into system from FC1 In-Reply-To: <4103D910.9010009@ntlworld.com> (richard mullens's message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:00:16 +0100") References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <1090737224.4706.70.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> <20040725163615.GC18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <4103D910.9010009@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: richard mullens writes: > Thanks for your remarks. Here is the output that you suggested that I post:- Near the end it says: Add correct host key in /home/richard/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message. Offending key in /home/richard/.ssh/known_hosts:4 It means since you installed a new OS there, ssh thinks someone has been meddling with you host keys file. Unless you have important added files in ~/.ssh just do this on FC1 rm -rf .ssh Then try ssh again. It should prompt if you want to store the new host key... and should be ok from there. From cfzeitler at yahoo.com Sun Jul 25 21:50:35 2004 From: cfzeitler at yahoo.com (charles f. zeitler) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: only one bash prompt? Message-ID: <20040725215035.8735.qmail@web80406.mail.yahoo.com> when i try to open a second terminal, or a second term tab, the bash prompt never appears. cfzeitler ===== : Do What Thou Wilt : : Shall Be : : The Whole of The Law : From wrrhdev at riede.org Sun Jul 25 21:56:25 2004 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:56:25 +0000 Subject: gcc -Os triggers oops in io_edgeport kernel module Message-ID: <1090792585l.17646l.4l@serve.riede.org> The oops I reported earlier on this list, and in http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=109029025821698&w=2 turns out to be triggered by just this directive in the .config file: [root at fallguy root]# diff -u ok3.config bad.config --- ok3.config 2004-07-25 11:45:05.000000000 -0400 +++ bad.config 2004-07-25 13:45:11.000000000 -0400 @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y -# CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is not set +CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y # # Loadable module support So the size optimization, which is on in the FC3T1 kernel, but about which the config help warns that it may produce invalid code, trips up over the code generation for the io_edgeport module. By inserting extra print statements, and seeing how many come out, I've deduced that the bad code is produced around 'get_manufacturing_desc' in the following code fragment in 'edge_startup()' in drivers/usb/serial/ io_edgeport.c: get_string(dev, dev->descriptor.iProduct, &edge_serial->name[i]); dev_info(&serial->dev->dev, "%s detected\n", edge_serial->name); /* get the manufacturing descriptor for this device */ ==> get_manufacturing_desc (edge_serial); <=== /* get the boot descriptor */ get_boot_desc (edge_serial); get_product_info(edge_serial); The gcc version installed: [root at fallguy root]# gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.4.1 20040714 (Red Hat 3.4.1-5) Should I enter a bug against gcc in bugzilla? Thanks, Willem Riede. From reader at newsguy.com Sun Jul 25 22:16:40 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:16:40 -0500 Subject: only one bash prompt? In-Reply-To: <20040725215035.8735.qmail@web80406.mail.yahoo.com> (charles f. zeitler's message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:50:35 -0700 (PDT)") References: <20040725215035.8735.qmail@web80406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: "charles f. zeitler" writes: > when i try to open > a second terminal, > or a second term tab, > the bash prompt > never appears. A litte more info is needed here for anyone to be helpful. Which OS? Is it up to date? Are you running bash? Which version of bash? This happens in X or in console mode or both? If in X which desktop and terminal output of `echo $TERM' `echo $SHELL env Contents of .bashrc and .bash_profile Fill that stuff in and someone can help you. In the future bear in mind that potential helper need enough info to make intelligent guesses. From mullens at ntlworld.com Sun Jul 25 21:12:47 2004 From: mullens at ntlworld.com (richard mullens) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:12:47 +0100 Subject: FC3T1 - After Install, can no longer SSH into system from FC1 References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <1090737224.4706.70.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> <20040725163615.GC18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <4103D910.9010009@ntlworld.com> <20040725192932.GD18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <4104224F.1040409@ntlworld.com> Charles R. Anderson wrote: >On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 05:00:16PM +0100, richard mullens wrote: > >>@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >>@ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ >>@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >>IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! >>Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! >>It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed. >>The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is >>13:af:4d:8e:e9:eb:18:6c:f2:9c:6a:d6:ce:44:db:e2. >>Please contact your system administrator. >>Add correct host key in /home/richard/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this >>message. >>Offending key in /home/richard/.ssh/known_hosts:4 >>RSA host key for 192.168.0.25 has changed and you have requested strict >>checking. >>Host key verification failed. >> > >You have an SSH host key cached for that IP address/hostname that is >different from the SSH host key on the freshly installed system with >that IP/hostname. Delete line 4 from your .ssh/known_hosts file to >get rid of the stale cached value. > > Many thanks. This worked - as did Harry's method. Of course now I remember ":4" takes one to line 4 in vi. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michal at harddata.com Sun Jul 25 23:25:27 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:25:27 -0600 Subject: only one bash prompt? In-Reply-To: <20040725215035.8735.qmail@web80406.mail.yahoo.com>; from cfzeitler@yahoo.com on Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 02:50:35PM -0700 References: <20040725215035.8735.qmail@web80406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040725172527.A19867@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 02:50:35PM -0700, charles f. zeitler wrote: > when i try to open > a second terminal, > or a second term tab, > the bash prompt > never appears. A bit too long for a haiku, but ... Maybe it can be improved. :-) Anything similar to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127048 How about ownership and permissions on /dev/pts ? Michal From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 26 00:39:53 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:39:53 -0400 Subject: grpconv: Out Of Memory In-Reply-To: <20040725153225.GA23970@rednote.net> References: <20040725153225.GA23970@rednote.net> Message-ID: <410452D9.9030603@sbcglobal.net> Janina Sajka wrote: > I'm trying to dip my toe into ldap. So, I've tried using authconfig and > checking ldap. After 'next' the system becomes very busy for about 2 > minutes. Eventually I see the following in /var/log/messages: > > kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 31691 (grpconv). > > and authconf closes. > > Looking at top during this I see most of my 2 Gb of Ram and 2 Gb of swap > used, and about 25% cpu as well. > > Can anyone shed light on this? Is there a bug here? Or, should this tool > run only after some by-hand configuration of ldap/slapd? > > Doing a search for "grpconv:Out Of Memory linux" gave me the following links. I first tried without specifying linux and the windows version came up during the search. http://www.google.com/search?q=grpconv%3A+Out+Of+Memory+in+linux&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8 I know nothing about grpconv for Linux or Windows. Good luck on figuring out this error. I did get this "helpful hint" from searching through one of the googled links. The creation of /etc/shadow and /etc/gshadow require the execution of a program to encrypt passwords. Use the commands pwconv and grpconv to synchronize the shadow files. The link was: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialSysAdmin.html Jim From michel.salim at gmail.com Mon Jul 26 04:39:15 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:39:15 +0700 Subject: yum update - dependancy problems In-Reply-To: <1090577908.393.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1090527168.31316.1.camel@T7.linux> <1090576292.4393.6.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <1090576915.393.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1090577499.4393.9.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> <1090577908.393.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <883cfe6d04072521391f113906@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:18:28 +0100, Paul wrote: > Does this also explain why libgtkhtml can't be found? > Nope, that's gtkhtml linking against an older version of itself :| - Michel From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Mon Jul 26 05:46:38 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 01:46:38 -0400 Subject: Kooka Scanning Problems with Rawhide Message-ID: <41049ABE.1020700@rogers.com> I'm running the latest version of rawhide. I've had this problem since the Fedora Core 2 final testing. When I load kooka, the scanner scans just fine. But, there is no output in the output window. Even in preview mode, there is no output from the scanner. The USB scanner does go through it's excerise of scanning the paper and acts normally. I did test out my scanner to see if it was a problem with the libusb. Using xsane, the scanner scans and outputs the image. It seems there is a problem with kooka. I even tried to uninstall the kdegraphics rpm and reinstall. That did not fix the problem. I tried to get any output from running kooka from a terminal session. There was no output from kooka. Running KDE 3.2.2-6 Kernel 2.6.7 (custom compile) kooka 0.42 Has anyone experienced this problem? Dwaine. From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Mon Jul 26 14:04:11 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:04:11 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <1090772428.22028.8.camel@duergar> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> <1090772428.22028.8.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1090850651.1660.12.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Hey Stan, > Then consult nVidia? What version of the drivers are you using? > I'm currently using NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run with > 2.6.7-1.476 without issue. NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run with the same kernel as you. Are you relying heavily on ACPI? And of course I initially thought it could be the problem, but: > Rather than follow the same old mantra of > adding an acpi=off line to grub (especially since this machine is a > laptop), I rebuilt the kernel _without_ PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY... At the end of my post, I said that I rebuilt the kernel _without_ PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY and that afterward, everything worked beautifully, the NVIDIA Drivers, ACPI and all. It was strictly a hunch that PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY was causing problems with ACPI (possibly indirectly?) and causing that subsystem to enter some race condition, chewing up my CPU cycles. My laptop's ACPI implementation shouldn't be broken, especially since FC2 supported it quite well as does FreeBSD 5.x, in fact, if there are kernel devs around, do you know if there are any differences between linux's ACPI system and FreeBSD 5.x's? It seems the BSD one works better (of course, my mileage has varied), at least on my Dell Inspiron 2650. Asside from the newer kernel releases with PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY being "fixed", I never noticed any performance gain while using it nor any benefit so I may not even upgrade later. But who knows? I'm always game for an upgrade. -brian On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 12:20, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 03:45 -0400, Brian R Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Regarding Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers, > > > > I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I've noticed some > > nasty problems with this kernel release (the rpm) and the Nvidia drivers > > while running Quake3 based games. > > > > Then consult nVidia? What version of the drivers are you using? > I'm currently using NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run with 2.6.7-1.476 > without issue. > > > First of all, performance is terrible. I could barely get Return to > > Castle Wolfenstein to run acceptably at 800x600x32 despite the fact that > > normally, it runs flawlessly on my Geforce2go at 1024x768x32 under > > normal circumstances. Secondly, it seems that some of the hardware > > lighting instructions break under this kernel. > > > > This seems like it would be a driver problem... > > > After fooling around with some things to try to fix this problem, I > > noticed that the kacpid process crashes for some reason, causing it to > > race and use >50% cpu. > > > > Then wouldn't one assume ACPI might be the prob? There have been > numerous ACPI in the 2.6.8rcX kernels so this will prolly go away with > the next kernel RPM release... > > > I did some looking around and noticed that some people have had issues > > with the PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY patch that was applied to this kernel and had > > a hunch that perhaps this patch was in some way screwing up the ACPI > > How about ACPI is screwing up because of ACPI bugs? Preemt Voluntary > has some issues here, but none are related to video and none are fatal. > Seems to work GREAT 90% of the time. > > > subsystem in the kernel. Rather than follow the same old mantra of > > adding an acpi=off line to grub (especially since this machine is a > > laptop), I rebuilt the kernel _without_ PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY and with > > Are you sure your laptop's ACPI implementation is sane? Speaking of > which you don't mention the laptop brand or hardware at all... > > > PREEMPT and voila, the problems disappeared. kacpid stopped crashing > > and 3d under q3 based games worked wonderfully with no apparent > > performance hit to my setup. > > > > There is a newer preempt voluntary in later 2.6.8rcX kernels which fix > many issues according to Igno, so...whatever just stick to preempt I > guess the whole point of preempt voluntary is to improve desktop > performance... > > > I hope that if anyone else runs across this problem that this will help > > them and that perhaps it could help lead to a bug fix for this. > > > > It's probably already been fixed. > > > > > -brian > > > > > > -sb > -- > Stan Bubrouski > From MHaney at interactsys.com Mon Jul 26 14:12:10 2004 From: MHaney at interactsys.com (Mark Haney) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:12:10 -0400 Subject: GPG signatures Message-ID: <4BAF87F9271E404D8CD26F33D7823849FC6410@mailserver.asheville.interact> When I'm running up2date on FC3T1 I'm getting the kernels but it says there is no GPG signature on them. Is this correct? Or am I missing something? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alea iacta est. Mark Haney Network Administrator Interact Public Safety Systems From dravet at hotmail.com Mon Jul 26 14:28:16 2004 From: dravet at hotmail.com (Jason Dravet) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:28:16 -0500 Subject: FC3T1 works nicely but: Message-ID: FC3T1 seems stable for me. Kernel is 2.6.7-1.494. The system is mostly up-to-date as of 7-22 (no glibc-238 stuff). Now for the few issues I have: There still is no way to edit the gnome menus. I am stuck using dial-up. I can connect to my ISP once, then I have to reboot to connect again. To connect to to my ISP I do /etc/ppp/ppp-on. Then I do /etc/ppp/ppp-off when I am done. At this point I cannot reconnect until I reboot. When I try to reconnect I see the following in /var/log/messages: Jul 26 08:54:51 excalibur pppd[3664]: pppd 2.4.2 started by root, uid 0 Jul 26 08:54:51 excalibur pppd[3664]: Removed stale lock on ttyS4 (pid 3279) Jul 26 08:54:51 excalibur kernel: ttyS4: LSR safety check engaged! Jul 26 08:54:52 excalibur last message repeated 2 times Jul 26 08:54:52 excalibur chat[3665]: Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error Jul 26 08:54:52 excalibur pppd[3664]: Connect script failed Jul 26 08:54:53 excalibur pppd[3664]: Exit. Jul 26 08:55:19 excalibur pppd[3680]: pppd 2.4.2 started by root, uid 0 Jul 26 08:55:19 excalibur kernel: ttyS4: LSR safety check engaged! Jul 26 08:55:20 excalibur chat[3681]: Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error Jul 26 08:55:20 excalibur pppd[3680]: Connect script failed Jul 26 08:55:20 excalibur kernel: ttyS4: LSR safety check engaged! Jul 26 08:55:20 excalibur kernel: ttyS4: LSR safety check engaged! Jul 26 08:55:21 excalibur pppd[3680]: Exit. Any ideas on why I cannot connect a second time? I have notice the ncpfs has been deprecated. Why? I need this module. Is there a replacement? And finally how do compile a module? I don't want to have to recompile the whole kernel. I was able to do the following before the upgrade: cp configs/kernel-2.6.7-i686 .config make menuconfig vi Makefile and remove custom from extraversion make modules SUBDIRS=fs/ntfs etc. >From what I have read the SUBDIRS= option has been 'replaced' with O=. So how should I compile my module. I have been to ntfs-sourceforge.net but the only module they had was for the stock kernel that came with FC3T1, but the 494 kernel. Thanks and keep up the good work. Jason _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page ? FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Mon Jul 26 14:44:48 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:44:48 -0400 Subject: GPG signatures In-Reply-To: <4BAF87F9271E404D8CD26F33D7823849FC6410@mailserver.asheville.interact> References: <4BAF87F9271E404D8CD26F33D7823849FC6410@mailserver.asheville.interact> Message-ID: <1090853088.3847.0.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 10:12 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > When I'm running up2date on FC3T1 I'm getting the kernels but it says there > is no GPG signature on them. Is this correct? Or am I missing something? Many rawhide packages are (unfortunately IMHO) unsigned. Phil From jreiser at BitWagon.com Mon Jul 26 15:03:10 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:03:10 -0700 Subject: status of USB coldplug? (hotplug for always-plugged-in device) Message-ID: <41051D2E.80008@BitWagon.com> What is going on with USB "coldplug"? A device such as a USB scanner does not have a service dedicated to managing it (like a USB printer usually has CUPS, for instance), but the scanner often is never unplugged, so the hotplug machinery never deals with it to identify the correct device name, load kernel modules, or to re-assign ownership or permissions in order to facilitate practical usability. The result is that configuring and using such a scanner often is cumbersome and frustrating. It would be nice for kudzu/hotplug/usb.agent/whatever to cooperate enough so that this not-uncommon case "just works". -- From alan at redhat.com Mon Jul 26 16:33:12 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:33:12 -0400 Subject: Wish List for FC3 (list Ports) In-Reply-To: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <20040726163312.GF4314@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 05:59:08PM -0600, Reg Clemens wrote: > Here is something we have all needed for some time. > Getting all the information is going to take some time, but > it will be worth it... > > ALL Programs in FC3 should have a new section in their MAN > pages listing the ports they use. That isn't really something Fedora can solve directly. I agree with your comment - in the network world it is as relevant as "FILES". Such fixes need to happen upstream in the various packages. You might want to submit the needed fixes to a few packages and see what the general community view is. From reader at newsguy.com Mon Jul 26 18:42:53 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:42:53 -0500 Subject: yum groupinstall groupupgrade Message-ID: How do the yum options groupinstall groupupgrade work? The yum man page doesn't bother to explain any more than: * groupinstall [...] * groupupdate [...] Which appears it would be `yum groupupgrade pkg pkg2 pkg3' That fails though so it must mean something different. yum groupupdate cdda2wav cdrecord Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: My fedraw mirror, or real carroll rawhide, or kernel.org mirror rawhide Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Getting groups from servers yumgroups.xml 0% | | 0 B --:-- ET yumgroups.xml 100% |=========================| 411 kB 00:00 From reader at newsguy.com Mon Jul 26 18:53:56 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:53:56 -0500 Subject: [FC3] Can yum download progress graph be controlled Message-ID: I wondered if there is a setting that controls how yum records download progress. What I see currently is a line for every few kb of increased data like this. Getting cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386.rpm cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 0% | | 0 B --:-- ET cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 2% | | 56 kB 00:13 ET cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 8% |== | 224 kB 00:12 ET cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 15% |=== | 392 kB 00:11 ET cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 22% |===== | 560 kB 00:10 ET [...] It can take up lots of screen realestate. Can I set something so this just occupies one line? From dcastle at carolina.rr.com Mon Jul 26 18:57:11 2004 From: dcastle at carolina.rr.com (Dwaine Castle) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:57:11 -0400 Subject: startx vs init 5 Message-ID: <05d401c47342$5d4b2ca0$6401a8c0@DCXP> If use init 5 as root to start the GUI the console is error free. If I execute startx as either root or an ordinary user the console is littered with error messages mostly xorg config errors and python script errors. I saw this in FC2 also. As an experiment I ran all the scripts in the /etc/rc.d/rc5.d and then ran startx. The error messages were still there. What else does the init 5 command do that might set up the environment to eliminate the errors? And, shouldn't startx use this environment? Thank you. Dwaine From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Mon Jul 26 19:12:29 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:12:29 -0400 Subject: startx vs init 5 In-Reply-To: <05d401c47342$5d4b2ca0$6401a8c0@DCXP> References: <05d401c47342$5d4b2ca0$6401a8c0@DCXP> Message-ID: <1090869149.2562.4.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Dwaine, Some output from the console while running 'startx' would be helpful. We'd like to see some of these error messages. Init level 5 has, at the end of the startup sequence, some script to start up gdm, the graphical login manager. This runs as the user gdm. 'startx' runs X and your xsession as whoever you are logged in as so obviously there will be some differences in the environment. If you check out /etc/inittab you can see that this line x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon starts up gdm. You might want to look at the /etc/X11/prefdm script. Post some error messages and I'd be more than happy to help. -brian On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 14:57, Dwaine Castle wrote: > If use init 5 as root to start the GUI the console is error free. If I > execute startx as either root or an ordinary user the console is littered > with error messages mostly xorg config errors and python script errors. I > saw this in FC2 also. > > As an experiment I ran all the scripts in the /etc/rc.d/rc5.d and then ran > startx. The error messages were still there. What else does the init 5 > command do that might set up the environment to eliminate the errors? And, > shouldn't startx use this environment? > > Thank you. > Dwaine > > From reader at newsguy.com Mon Jul 26 19:21:41 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:21:41 -0500 Subject: yum groupinstall groupupgrade References: Message-ID: Harry Putnam writes: Ignore the TYPO between groupupdate/upgrade I used the correct name for the test shown below > How do the yum options groupinstall groupupgrade work? > > The yum man page doesn't bother to explain any more than: > * groupinstall [...] > * groupupdate [...] > > Which appears it would be > `yum groupupgrade pkg pkg2 pkg3' > > That fails though so it must mean something different. > yum groupupdate cdda2wav cdrecord > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: My fedraw mirror, or real carroll rawhide, or kernel.org mirror rawhide > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Getting groups from servers > yumgroups.xml 0% | | 0 B --:-- ET > yumgroups.xml 100% |=========================| 411 kB 00:00 > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From balay at fastmail.fm Mon Jul 26 20:10:47 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:10:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: yum groupinstall groupupgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > How do the yum options groupinstall groupupgrade work? > > The yum man page doesn't bother to explain any more than: > * groupinstall [...] > * groupupdate [...] > > Which appears it would be > `yum groupupgrade pkg pkg2 pkg3' > > That fails though so it must mean something different. > yum groupupdate cdda2wav cdrecord > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: My fedraw mirror, or real carroll rawhide, or kernel.org mirror rawhide > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Getting groups from servers > yumgroups.xml 0% | | 0 B --:-- ET > yumgroups.xml 100% |=========================| 411 kB 00:00 groupupdate requires group names - not package names. Try 'yum grouplist' to get the list of group names. for eg: yum groupupdate "Administration Tools" Satish From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon Jul 26 21:41:46 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:41:46 +0100 Subject: Still got yum probs on fc3t1 + Evolution 2 beta Message-ID: <1090878106.23227.2.camel@T7.linux> Hi, The gtkhtml3/libgtkhtml3 problem is still in rawhide as is the perl problem. Any ideas when these will be resolved? There was talk of the first Ev. 2 beta coming available at the back end of last week. Sorry to be jumping the gun here, but has it materialised? TTFN Paul (looking forward to updating) -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sorry to be jumping the gun here, but has it materialised? > > TTFN > > Paul > (looking forward to updating) -- John Dennis From reader at newsguy.com Mon Jul 26 22:57:17 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:57:17 -0500 Subject: upgrade to latest success except perl Message-ID: I've taken my update list in bites of 5-7 pkgs and gotten everything updated. The only outstanding dep problem seems to be the stray dependancy in vim-enhanced: (From `yum upgrade perl') debug dep: vim-enhanced req /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi - None - 0 Cannot find a resolution attempting update out of loop on vim-enhanced Is this just a basic typo in the build of vim-enhanced. Can it be fixed by a simple edit in spec file? From reader at newsguy.com Mon Jul 26 23:03:04 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:03:04 -0500 Subject: Boot up messages concerning devlabel Message-ID: There seems to be some sort of timing problem or something related to devlabel activity during bootup. After a complete update (except perl) I see many lines of warning during bootup that something can't find: /var/lib/devlabel/ignore_list And once booted a ls -l /var/lib/devlabel/ignore_list shows a zero length file: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 26 17:58 /var/lib/devlabel/ignore_list Anyone know what this is about. Doesn't seem to be particularly harmful but then I'm probably not really using devlabel for anything. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Mon Jul 26 23:18:54 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:18:54 -0400 Subject: [FC3] Can yum download progress graph be controlled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1090883934.2511.2.camel@binkley> On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 13:53 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > I wondered if there is a setting that controls how yum records > download progress. What I see currently is a line for every few kb of > increased data like this. > > Getting cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386.rpm > cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 0% | | 0 B --:-- ET > cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 2% | | 56 kB 00:13 ET > cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 8% |== | 224 kB 00:12 ET > cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 15% |=== | 392 kB 00:11 ET > cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 22% |===== | 560 kB 00:10 ET > [...] > > It can take up lots of screen realestate. Can I set something so this > just occupies one line? Is your terminal < 80 lines? if so - then that's what causes that problem. -sv From dmalcolm at redhat.com Mon Jul 26 23:28:02 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:28:02 -0400 Subject: Still got yum probs on fc3t1 + Evolution 2 beta In-Reply-To: <1090878281.3805.57.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> References: <1090878106.23227.2.camel@T7.linux> <1090878281.3805.57.camel@finch.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1090884482.3872.5.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 17:44 -0400, John Dennis wrote: > David rebuilt it a few hours ago, not sure how long it will take to > actually appear in the repository. Just to clarify, I've rebuilt gtkhtml3, along with the latest evolution packages (evolution-1.5.91); hopefully they'll hit rawhide sometime tonight (I believe a cronjob has to run to push the packages from our build system into rawhide) I'm hoping the first Evo 2 beta tarballs will be released sometime this week and I'll package them up as soon as I can. Unfortunately there's been some slippage upstream :-( Dave > > On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 17:41, Paul wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The gtkhtml3/libgtkhtml3 problem is still in rawhide as is the perl > > problem. Any ideas when these will be resolved? > > > > There was talk of the first Ev. 2 beta coming available at the back end > > of last week. Sorry to be jumping the gun here, but has it materialised? > > > > TTFN > > > > Paul > > (looking forward to updating) > -- > John Dennis > > From michal at harddata.com Mon Jul 26 23:38:59 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:38:59 -0600 Subject: upgrade to latest success except perl In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:57:17PM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20040726173859.A16304@mail.harddata.com> On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:57:17PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > (From `yum upgrade perl') > > debug dep: vim-enhanced req > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi - None - 0 Cannot find > a resolution attempting update out of loop on vim-enhanced Available vim binaries were compiled with the previous version of perl. > Is this just a basic typo in the build of vim-enhanced. No. > Can it be fixed by a simple edit in spec file? There is nothing to fix. You may easily resolve the situation by doing 'rpmbuild --rebuild vim-6.3.014-1.src.rpm' after you installed that perl (which may still complain about Carp::Heavy). Or you may put 'exclude=perl' in your yum.conf for the moment and wait a bit until things get sorted out in ready packages. Nothing unusual in a development/testing period. Michal From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Jul 27 00:36:41 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:36:41 -0400 Subject: [FC3] Can yum download progress graph be controlled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200407262036.41703.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 26 July 2004 14:53, Harry Putnam wrote: >I wondered if there is a setting that controls how yum records >download progress. What I see currently is a line for every few kb > of increased data like this. > > Getting cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386.rpm >cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 0% | | 0 B --:-- ET >cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 2% | | 56 kB 00:13 ET >cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 8% |== | 224 kB 00:12 ET >cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 15% |=== | 392 kB 00:11 ET >cups-1.1.21-1.rc1.3.i386. 22% |===== | 560 kB 00:10 ET > [...] > >It can take up lots of screen realestate. Can I set something so > this just occupies one line? Your terminal proggy is broken. Try another? -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 27 01:03:31 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:03:31 -0500 Subject: [FC3] Can yum download progress graph be controlled In-Reply-To: <1090883934.2511.2.camel@binkley> (seth vidal's message of "Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:18:54 -0400") References: <1090883934.2511.2.camel@binkley> Message-ID: seth vidal writes: > > Is your terminal < 80 lines? > > if so - then that's what causes that problem. Not sure what you mean by 80 lines. It is 80 char wide and 25 lines high. My term is an xterm called like this: xterm -bg black -fg khaki -fn \ -bitstream-terminal-medium-r-normal--18-140-100-100-c-110-iso8859-1 \ -geometry 80x25 Other than the flags I've done nothing to its settings. My Xresource settings have been in place for ages. I've used that for a very long time. But only started seeing this from yum recently. I reverted my xterm package to 179 a while ago waiting for upstream to settle down on what settings it will have. I was having too much trouble with the new xterm pkgs using various progs. Even changing the erase char to ^H didn't cure all of them. But 179 has none of these problems. Gene Heskett > Your terminal proggy is broken. Try another? I'm using xterm from xterm-179 (reverted from most recent) It wasn't broken before updating. Do you know or can you guess what exactly is broken? From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Jul 27 02:09:31 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:09:31 -0400 Subject: [FC3] Can yum download progress graph be controlled In-Reply-To: References: <1090883934.2511.2.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <200407262209.31535.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 26 July 2004 21:03, Harry Putnam wrote: [...] >Gene Heskett > >> Your terminal proggy is broken. Try another? > >I'm using xterm from xterm-179 (reverted from most recent) >It wasn't broken before updating. Do you know or can you guess what >exactly is broken? >From where I'm looking at it, it seems to me its doing some sort of a cr to cr+lf conversion like if it was a M$ product. I do not know if there is an xterm even installed here, I've been using konsole since forever it seems. Just typeing 'xterm' from a konsole cli here does open a very small window, with no apparent pulldowns to configure it at all, black background and teeeeeny white characters. I'd not find that overly usefull pretty quickly. I'd run yum in it to test, but yum is already putzing around with updateing a fresh FC2 upgrade, probably take another 2-3 hours. -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved. From notting at redhat.com Tue Jul 27 02:22:07 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:22:07 -0400 Subject: Boot up messages concerning devlabel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040727022207.GA15733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Harry Putnam (reader at newsguy.com) said: > There seems to be some sort of timing problem or something related to > devlabel activity during bootup. Do you have /var as a separate partition? Bill From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 27 03:09:51 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:09:51 -0500 Subject: Boot up messages concerning devlabel References: <20040727022207.GA15733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Bill Nottingham writes: > Harry Putnam (reader at newsguy.com) said: >> There seems to be some sort of timing problem or something related to >> devlabel activity during bootup. > > Do you have /var as a separate partition? Yup, so I guess var isn't mounted yet when this happens? From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 27 01:41:30 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:41:30 -0400 Subject: mc - B/W in su - environment using gnome-terminal - Error mesage Message-ID: <4105B2CA.40002@sbcglobal.net> I noticed that running mc in a root terminal su- not su without the - causes mc to be displayed in b/w. I don't see this behavior in a regular user either. Running mc in a normal screen shell is displayed in color. I believe mutt and other programs do the same thing. running setup displays in color. Is anyone else seeing something like this? * I guess no one is having the b/w problem with mc and mutt through gnome-terminal after su - to root then starting mc. Additionally, I get this output within the gnome-terminal. # mc subshell.c: couldn't open master side of pty pty_open_master: No such file or directory Oh well! Is this a bug more apt to be related to mc and mutt, gnome-terminal or some type of lone configuration on my end. I did not puroposefully change any of the default configuration files. Thanks! Jim From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 27 03:20:44 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:20:44 -0500 Subject: [FC3] Can yum download progress graph be controlled References: <1090883934.2511.2.camel@binkley> <200407262209.31535.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: Gene Heskett writes: > forever it seems. Just typeing 'xterm' from a konsole cli here does > open a very small window, with no apparent pulldowns to configure it > at all, black background and teeeeeny white characters. I'd not find > that overly usefull pretty quickly. I'd run yum in it to test, but > yum is already putzing around with updateing a fresh FC2 upgrade, > probably take another 2-3 hours. Settings for xterms are usually done in ~/.Xresources but can be called on cli Try: xterm -fn \ -bitstream-terminal-medium-r-normal--18-140-100-100-c-110-iso8859-1\ -bg khaki2 -fg linen & Mess around in that awhile to see how they look. From notting at redhat.com Tue Jul 27 03:37:42 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:37:42 -0400 Subject: Boot up messages concerning devlabel In-Reply-To: References: <20040727022207.GA15733@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040727033741.GA4279@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Harry Putnam (reader at newsguy.com) said: > >> There seems to be some sort of timing problem or something related to > >> devlabel activity during bootup. > > > > Do you have /var as a separate partition? > > Yup, so I guess var isn't mounted yet when this happens? Correct. Bill From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 27 03:40:09 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:40:09 -0500 Subject: [FC3] Differences in ssh or Xauthorization... Message-ID: In past versions I've been able to access root while in $user X session like this: xterm -e ssh root at localhost That would bring up an xterm with a password request. Once logged in this root xterm would then have priviledges to run X applications in users X session. It could start its own `netscape' session for example. I don't normally run netscape as root but am using it here for a clear example. The real apps I'm having this problem with are things like emacs or gvim. In FC3, when I do this, the root xterm cannot get access to my user display. I get errors like: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: I know about `xhost' and the X11 forwarding of ssh (which is set to YES) but in the past nothing like that was necessary. Anyone know what changes are causing this? From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Tue Jul 27 04:39:48 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:39:48 -0400 Subject: [FC3] Differences in ssh or Xauthorization... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4105DC94.8020007@rogers.com> Harry Putnam wrote: >In past versions I've been able to access root while in $user X >session like this: > xterm -e ssh root at localhost > >That would bring up an xterm with a password request. Once logged in >this root xterm would then have priviledges to run X applications in >users X session. It could start its own `netscape' session for >example. > >I don't normally run netscape as root but am using it here for a clear >example. The real apps I'm having this problem with are things like >emacs or gvim. > >In FC3, when I do this, the root xterm cannot get access to my user >display. I get errors like: > Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: > >I know about `xhost' and the X11 forwarding of ssh (which is set to >YES) but in the past nothing like that was necessary. > >Anyone know what changes are causing this? > > > > Worked fine on my box... Dwaine. From tdiehl at rogueind.com Tue Jul 27 05:07:24 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 01:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: yum groupinstall groupupgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > How do the yum options groupinstall groupupgrade work? > > The yum man page doesn't bother to explain any more than: > * groupinstall [...] > * groupupdate [...] > > Which appears it would be > `yum groupupgrade pkg pkg2 pkg3' > > That fails though so it must mean something different. > yum groupupdate cdda2wav cdrecord > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: My fedraw mirror, or real carroll rawhide, or kernel.org mirror rawhide > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Getting groups from servers > yumgroups.xml 0% | | 0 B --:-- ET > yumgroups.xml 100% |=========================| 411 kB 00:00 Harry, Try yum grouplist to see a list of groups. Also you can look into the yumgroups.xml file(s) and modify what is in the groups or create your own groups, assuming you have a repository to put the yumgroups.xml file in. I have a bunch of custom groups that I use for duplicating machines via kickstart. If you only want to use your own yumgroups.xml files you can use the enablegroups parameter in the config file. Basically adding the word group to a command such as yum groupinstall groupname will perform the same commands as yum install pkg except that it will install the whole group of packages instead of a single package. Hope this makes sense. Tom From davidmaxwaterman at fastmail.co.uk Tue Jul 27 07:20:50 2004 From: davidmaxwaterman at fastmail.co.uk (Max Waterman) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:20:50 +0800 Subject: nForce3 250Gb/MSI K8N Neo Message-ID: <41060252.4060106@fastmail.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am trying to get FC running on the above h/w. I tried FC2 for AMD64 (FC2-x86_64). It installs OK, but it hangs during boot[1]. So, I tried FC3 test1 (FC3-test1-x86_64), but it doesn't even boot from the CD - I get a screen of white noise[2] Can someone help? Max. [1] The FC grub(?) screen shows up with only one thing on the list. When I hit return, I see it show the 'hit (I) to boot manually' or something like that (I don't hit any keys), but the screen goes blank. I wait a long time, but it doesn't come back. If I hit the power button, it comes back (the last boot message is to do with the swap space), displaying the shutdown and power off messages; and it then powers off. [2] My video card is a PCI ATI card. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBBgJS4frZ3W7OHZMRAmwwAJ0a5hg9H7NQt9JFQ4yFa7c6clxLBwCeIc73 ikgD4vq1ClX29LVJXvUd3Ko= =wegz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 27 09:20:13 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 04:20:13 -0500 Subject: [FC3] Differences in ssh or Xauthorization... In-Reply-To: <4105DC94.8020007@rogers.com> (Dwaine Garden's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:39:48 -0400") References: <4105DC94.8020007@rogers.com> Message-ID: Dwaine Garden writes: >>In FC3, when I do this, the root xterm cannot get access to my user >>display. I get errors like: >> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: >> >>I know about `xhost' and the X11 forwarding of ssh (which is set to >>YES) but in the past nothing like that was necessary. >> >>Anyone know what changes are causing this? >> >> >> >> > Worked fine on my box... Dwaine.. what does `your box' consist of? Is it an fully updated FC3t1 setup. If so, do you have any custom settings you can think of that would make yours work and mine not. When in X, and in your xterm. If you type ssh root at localhost and login. Can root then run mozilla or whatever? From rhlist at itns.co.za Tue Jul 27 09:33:56 2004 From: rhlist at itns.co.za (Greg Wildman) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:33:56 +0200 Subject: FC3T1 - After Install, can no longer SSH into system from FC1 In-Reply-To: <4103B133.2000809@ntlworld.com> References: <4103B133.2000809@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <41062184.1070201@itns.co.za> richard mullens said the following on 25/07/2004 15:10: > I did a clean install of FC3T1 on a machine that had FC1 on it. > Afterwards another machine (installed with FC1) would no longer SSH into > the machine. > The FC1 advice on overcoming this wasn't helpful to a newbie. > Of course this is a problem with FC1. Don't know if this happens on FC3T1. > In retrospect, I guess it would have helped if I'd chosen a different IP > address (or ethernet card ?). No problem, it is working like it should. When you first ssh'd from your FC1 box to the now reloaded box, the host key was saved in ~/.ssh/known_hosts. Now you have reloaded the box so the host key has changed. Now when you ssh from your FC1 box it fails because it has detected that this is not the same machine it connected to last time. This is a security feature. just remove the entry from ~/.ssh/known_hosts and connect again. It will prompt to save the new host key. -- Redmond, we have a problem. From box01 at jens-wannenmacher.de Tue Jul 27 10:34:01 2004 From: box01 at jens-wannenmacher.de (box01 at jens-wannenmacher.de) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:34:01 +0200 Subject: partitioning problems Fedora Core 3 Test 1? Message-ID: <5353137$109092432041062f208bd851.13125980@config2.schlund.de> Hello, I read that Fedora Core 2 could damage the partition table while installation. ( http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00908.html ) Is this still a problem in Fedora 3 Test 1? Thanks and best regards, Jens From jacbur at optonline.net Tue Jul 27 10:46:02 2004 From: jacbur at optonline.net (Jack Burge) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:46:02 -0400 Subject: Problem loading FC3 Test 1 on ASUS K8V Deluxe mother board with an AMD64 processor Message-ID: <001201c473c6$e90738e0$64c8a8c0@jack> When I try to load FC3 Test 1 everything is OK until it tries to load the "sata_via driver", the system just hangs at this point. The only way to recover is to reboot. I am not upgrading from FC2 but doing a fresh installation. Has anyone had this problem, if so how did you solve it. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sedge at vtr.co.uk Tue Jul 27 11:04:35 2004 From: sedge at vtr.co.uk (Simon Sedgwick) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:04:35 +0100 Subject: FC3-test1 agpgart warning on boot and very slow performance Message-ID: <1090926275.6363.1.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> I've just installed FC3-test1 on a spare box I've got laying about. This was a clean install onto a disk that previously had FC1 on it and ran fine. I chose a straight workstation install and performance during the install process was okay. After it had finished installing I rebooted the machine and everything was fine until the kernel had decompressed the it came up with the following error: (dmesg) agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset, but could not find the secondary device. agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset. agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf8000000 Anything obvious spring to mind chaps? Simon From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue Jul 27 12:34:11 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:34:11 +0100 Subject: Some packages need updating (relies on libcurl.so.2) Message-ID: <1090931652.30701.19.camel@T7.linux> Hi, yum update has failed as it's looking for libcurl.so.2 for vorbis-tools, xine-ui, grip and php. This looks like a packaging error as the lib is provided in curl 0-7.11.1-2 . By the looks of it, these need updating as curl 0-7.12.0-2 is on the update list TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dcastle at carolina.rr.com Tue Jul 27 12:51:31 2004 From: dcastle at carolina.rr.com (Dwaine Castle) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:51:31 -0400 Subject: startx vs init 5 Message-ID: <062c01c473d8$7255eae0$6401a8c0@DCXP> Brian, I've listed some of the console output below. /etc/X11/perfdm does start the GUI without the error messages, but that is because it sends everthing to /dev/null. I guess that is why I couldn't find these error messages in the logs. So, these errors may occur when I start X sessions with init 5. Is runlevel 5 unimportant to X-windows? Thanks. Dwaine Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.7-1.494 (bhcompile at porky.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.1 20040702 (Red Hat Linux 3.4.1-2)) #1 Sat Jul 17 05:19:54 EDT 2004 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jul 27 07:34:24 2004 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" FATAL: Module agpgart not found. [drm] failed to load kernel module "agpgart" SESSION_MANAGER=local/dc-fc.dcwg.com:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3098 AUDIT: Tue Jul 27 07:34:39 2004: 3040 X: client 4 rejected from local host /usr/share/rhn/rhn_applet/rhn_applet.py:362: DeprecationWarning: integer argument expected, got float self.animate_timeout_tag = gtk.timeout_add(math.floor(1000 * ANIMATION_TOTAL_TIME/len(frames)), self.animate_handler) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) Unable to open desktop file applications:///Accessories/redhat-print.desktop for panel launcher: Error reading file 'applications:///Accessories/redhat-print.desktop': File not found /usr/lib/python2.3/optik.py:8: DeprecationWarning: the optik interface is deprecated; please use optparse instead DeprecationWarning) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide using mirror: http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/i386/ /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.create_pixmap is deprecated, use gtk.gdk.Pixmap instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use gtk.main_iteration instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/checklist.py:139: DeprecationWarning: integer argument expected, got float info = self.get_selection_info (event.x, event.y) Stopping sshd:[ OK ] Starting sshd:[ OK ] /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainquit is deprecated, use gtk.main_quit instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/lib/python2.3/optik.py:8: DeprecationWarning: the optik interface is deprecated; please use optparse instead DeprecationWarning) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide using mirror: http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/i386/ /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.create_pixmap is deprecated, use gtk.gdk.Pixmap instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use gtk.main_iteration instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/checklist.py:139: DeprecationWarning: integer argument expected, got float info = self.get_selection_info (event.x, event.y) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainquit is deprecated, use gtk.main_quit instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file operation. ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file operation. ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file operation. ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file operation. ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file operation. /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use gtk.main_iteration instead self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) From i.pilcher at comcast.net Tue Jul 27 13:05:46 2004 From: i.pilcher at comcast.net (Ian Pilcher) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:05:46 -0500 Subject: partitioning problems Fedora Core 3 Test 1? In-Reply-To: <5353137$109092432041062f208bd851.13125980@config2.schlund.de> References: <5353137$109092432041062f208bd851.13125980@config2.schlund.de> Message-ID: box01 at jens-wannenmacher.de wrote: > > I read that Fedora Core 2 could damage the partition table while > installation. > ( > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00908.html > ) > Is this still a problem in Fedora 3 Test 1? > Based on my experience trying to install FC3t1 (I never did succeed) it is still a problem. You can determine if your system is affected by booting the installation CD, switching to an alternate virtual terminal, and comparing the output of 'fdisk -l' and 'sfdisk -g'. If they report different disk geometries, then your system is affected, and you should specify the disk geometry on the kernel command line. (The geometry reported by 'fdisk -l' is probably the one you want to use, since it is based on the current partition table.) For example, I boot FC2 with 'hda=3649,255,63 hde=14593,255,63', and I found that it was necessary to add the same parameters to the FC3t1 installation. -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher at comcast.net ======================================================================== From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 27 13:09:33 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:09:33 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 Message-ID: Summary: Running FC3T1 (updated) Kde desktop Using default run level 3 and `startx' from cli to enter X. Can someone point me to documentation that spells out the string of events that occur when X is started. In my case I default to run level 3 and `startx' as needed. In past releases I've always been able to ssh root at localhost from a user xterm in X and the resulting root terminal would be able to run X applications in that users X session. Now I get messages that say things like: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display Depending on which app it is, the warnings differ but always `no access to display' is the punch line. I'm thinking if I unravel the scripting that startx runs I'll find where somekind of authorization is being invoked. Maybe --nolisten or something similar. I have looked at /etc/X11 scripts like `startx', `xinit' and `Xclients' but am getting really lost as to what is calling what etc. I hoped somewhere the startup sequence of X in Fedora specifically might be outlined. PS-setting `xhost +' doesn't seem to have any effect on this. From balay at fastmail.fm Tue Jul 27 13:17:32 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:17:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Summary: > Running FC3T1 (updated) > Kde desktop > Using default run level 3 and `startx' from cli to enter X. > > Can someone point me to documentation that spells out the string of > events that occur when X is started. In my case I default to run > level 3 and `startx' as needed. > > In past releases I've always been able to ssh root at localhost from a > user xterm in X and the resulting root terminal would be able to run X > applications in that users X session. Now I get messages that say > things like: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display > > Depending on which app it is, the warnings differ but always `no access > to display' is the punch line. > > I'm thinking if I unravel the scripting that startx runs I'll find > where somekind of authorization is being invoked. Maybe --nolisten or > something similar. I have looked at /etc/X11 scripts like `startx', > `xinit' and `Xclients' but am getting really lost as to what is > calling what etc. > > I hoped somewhere the startup sequence of X in Fedora specifically > might be outlined. > > PS-setting `xhost +' doesn't seem to have any effect on this. Have you tried 'ssh -Y root at localhost' ? Satish From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Tue Jul 27 13:51:36 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (ted) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:51:36 +0100 Subject: partitioning problems Fedora Core 3 Test 1? In-Reply-To: <5353137$109092432041062f208bd851.13125980@config2.schlund.de> References: <5353137$109092432041062f208bd851.13125980@config2.schlund.de> Message-ID: <20040727145136.1bffa593@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:34:01 +0200 wrote: > > Hello, > > I read that Fedora Core 2 could damage the partition table while > installation. > ( > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00908.html > ) > Is this still a problem in Fedora 3 Test 1? > > Thanks and best regards, > Jens > > > Had no problems here with any Fedora distro....Now SuSe...Thats another matter !! -- Regards Ted Wager Using Fedora3 beta Linux From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Tue Jul 27 14:48:09 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:48:09 -0400 Subject: startx vs init 5 In-Reply-To: <062c01c473d8$7255eae0$6401a8c0@DCXP> References: <062c01c473d8$7255eae0$6401a8c0@DCXP> Message-ID: <1090939689.5928.4.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Dwaine, Looking at your output, it seems those error messages are just warnings, letting the developers know that some of the gtk/gnome systems are using depricated function calls that have likely been replaced by better ones. This often happens during development releases while the coders are busy building up to new libraries. Most of the calls have to do with GTK so I have to assume that FC3 is using a newer version of GTK+2. The warnings are nothing to worry about. Runlevel 5, by itself, is of no consequence to x11. It is, however, most distributions' runlevel-of-choice when running a graphical login manager, hence the /etc/X11/prefdm line at the end of inittab. Hope this helps you -brian On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 08:51, Dwaine Castle wrote: > Brian, > > I've listed some of the console output below. > > /etc/X11/perfdm does start the GUI without the error messages, but that is > because it sends everthing to /dev/null. I guess that is why I couldn't > find these error messages in the logs. So, these errors may occur when I > start X sessions with init 5. > > Is runlevel 5 unimportant to X-windows? > > Thanks. > Dwaine > > > > > > Module Loader present > OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.7-1.494 (bhcompile at porky.build.redhat.com) (gcc > version 3.4.1 20040702 (Red Hat Linux 3.4.1-2)) #1 Sat Jul 17 05:19:54 EDT > 2004 > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jul 27 07:34:24 2004 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > FATAL: Module agpgart not found. > [drm] failed to load kernel module "agpgart" > SESSION_MANAGER=local/dc-fc.dcwg.com:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3098 > AUDIT: Tue Jul 27 07:34:39 2004: 3040 X: client 4 rejected from local host > /usr/share/rhn/rhn_applet/rhn_applet.py:362: DeprecationWarning: integer > argument expected, got float > self.animate_timeout_tag = gtk.timeout_add(math.floor(1000 * > ANIMATION_TOTAL_TIME/len(frames)), self.animate_handler) > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > Unable to open desktop file applications:///Accessories/redhat-print.desktop > for panel launcher: Error reading file > 'applications:///Accessories/redhat-print.desktop': File not found > /usr/lib/python2.3/optik.py:8: DeprecationWarning: the optik interface is > deprecated; please use optparse instead > DeprecationWarning) > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > using mirror: http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/i386/ > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.create_pixmap is deprecated, use gtk.gdk.Pixmap > instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use > gtk.main_iteration instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/checklist.py:139: DeprecationWarning: integer > argument expected, got float > info = self.get_selection_info (event.x, event.y) > Stopping sshd:[ OK ] > Starting sshd:[ OK ] > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainquit is deprecated, use gtk.main_quit instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > /usr/lib/python2.3/optik.py:8: DeprecationWarning: the optik interface is > deprecated; please use optparse instead > DeprecationWarning) > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > using mirror: http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/i386/ > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.create_pixmap is deprecated, use gtk.gdk.Pixmap > instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use > gtk.main_iteration instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/checklist.py:139: DeprecationWarning: integer > argument expected, got float > info = self.get_selection_info (event.x, event.y) > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainquit is deprecated, use gtk.main_quit instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > operation. > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > operation. > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > operation. > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > operation. > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > operation. > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use > gtk.main_iteration instead > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > > From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 27 15:06:49 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:06:49 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:17:32 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: >> I hoped somewhere the startup sequence of X in Fedora specifically >> might be outlined. >> >> PS-setting `xhost +' doesn't seem to have any effect on this. > > Have you tried 'ssh -Y root at localhost' ? > > Satish Nope... I hadn't. Never used it before and had no problem, is it new? Anyway, the -Y flag fixes things for me. ... thanks Doesn't appear to be new in ssh but I didn't need it in fc1 fc2, so something must have changed. From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Tue Jul 27 15:23:02 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:23:02 -0400 Subject: startx vs init 5 In-Reply-To: <1090939689.5928.4.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> References: <062c01c473d8$7255eae0$6401a8c0@DCXP> <1090939689.5928.4.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Message-ID: <1090941782.5928.8.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Dwaine, One more thing i forgot to address was those "Access Denied" lines. >From the output, its hard to tell exactly what files are being accessed and what those permissions are. You may want to make sure that everything in your ~home is owned by you. If you did an upgrade, there may be some files owned by a UID that may no longer exist... -brian On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 10:48, Brian R Smith wrote: > Dwaine, > > Looking at your output, it seems those error messages are just warnings, > letting the developers know that some of the gtk/gnome systems are using > depricated function calls that have likely been replaced by better > ones. This often happens during development releases while the coders > are busy building up to new libraries. Most of the calls have to do > with GTK so I have to assume that FC3 is using a newer version of > GTK+2. The warnings are nothing to worry about. > > Runlevel 5, by itself, is of no consequence to x11. It is, however, > most distributions' runlevel-of-choice when running a graphical login > manager, hence the /etc/X11/prefdm line at the end of inittab. > > Hope this helps you > > -brian > > > On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 08:51, Dwaine Castle wrote: > > Brian, > > > > I've listed some of the console output below. > > > > /etc/X11/perfdm does start the GUI without the error messages, but that is > > because it sends everthing to /dev/null. I guess that is why I couldn't > > find these error messages in the logs. So, these errors may occur when I > > start X sessions with init 5. > > > > Is runlevel 5 unimportant to X-windows? > > > > Thanks. > > Dwaine > > > > > > > > > > > > Module Loader present > > OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.7-1.494 (bhcompile at porky.build.redhat.com) (gcc > > version 3.4.1 20040702 (Red Hat Linux 3.4.1-2)) #1 Sat Jul 17 05:19:54 EDT > > 2004 > > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jul 27 07:34:24 2004 > > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > > FATAL: Module agpgart not found. > > [drm] failed to load kernel module "agpgart" > > SESSION_MANAGER=local/dc-fc.dcwg.com:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3098 > > AUDIT: Tue Jul 27 07:34:39 2004: 3040 X: client 4 rejected from local host > > /usr/share/rhn/rhn_applet/rhn_applet.py:362: DeprecationWarning: integer > > argument expected, got float > > self.animate_timeout_tag = gtk.timeout_add(math.floor(1000 * > > ANIMATION_TOTAL_TIME/len(frames)), self.animate_handler) > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > Unable to open desktop file applications:///Accessories/redhat-print.desktop > > for panel launcher: Error reading file > > 'applications:///Accessories/redhat-print.desktop': File not found > > /usr/lib/python2.3/optik.py:8: DeprecationWarning: the optik interface is > > deprecated; please use optparse instead > > DeprecationWarning) > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > > using mirror: http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/i386/ > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.create_pixmap is deprecated, use gtk.gdk.Pixmap > > instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use > > gtk.main_iteration instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/checklist.py:139: DeprecationWarning: integer > > argument expected, got float > > info = self.get_selection_info (event.x, event.y) > > Stopping sshd:[ OK ] > > Starting sshd:[ OK ] > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainquit is deprecated, use gtk.main_quit instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > /usr/lib/python2.3/optik.py:8: DeprecationWarning: the optik interface is > > deprecated; please use optparse instead > > DeprecationWarning) > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide > > using mirror: http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/development/i386/ > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.create_pixmap is deprecated, use gtk.gdk.Pixmap > > instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use > > gtk.main_iteration instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/checklist.py:139: DeprecationWarning: integer > > argument expected, got float > > info = self.get_selection_info (event.x, event.y) > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainquit is deprecated, use gtk.main_quit instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > > operation. > > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > > operation. > > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > > operation. > > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > > operation. > > ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Access denied" while doing a file > > operation. > > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: > > GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainiteration is deprecated, use > > gtk.main_iteration instead > > self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) > > > > > > > From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Tue Jul 27 15:25:04 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:25:04 -0400 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1090941904.14138.20.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 10:06 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Satish Balay writes: > > >> I hoped somewhere the startup sequence of X in Fedora specifically > >> might be outlined. > >> > >> PS-setting `xhost +' doesn't seem to have any effect on this. > > > > Have you tried 'ssh -Y root at localhost' ? > > > > Satish > > Nope... I hadn't. Never used it before and had no problem, is it new? > Anyway, the -Y flag fixes things for me. ... thanks > > Doesn't appear to be new in ssh but I didn't need it in fc1 fc2, so > something must have changed. Something has changed - FC2 ssh doesn't even recognize "-Y" flag. Phil From nalin at redhat.com Tue Jul 27 15:30:26 2004 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:30:26 -0400 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 10:06:49AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Doesn't appear to be new in ssh but I didn't need it in fc1 fc2, so > something must have changed. The upstream behavior has always been to disable X11 forwarding by default. As of 3.8 and later, the packages in Raw Hide stopped overriding that in the system-wide configuration files. The subthread: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-June/msg00317.html The full thread: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-June/msg00316.html HTH, Nalin From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Tue Jul 27 15:33:22 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:33:22 -0300 Subject: partitioning problems Fedora Core 3 Test 1? In-Reply-To: <5353137$109092432041062f208bd851.13125980@config2.schlund.de> References: <5353137$109092432041062f208bd851.13125980@config2.schlund.de> Message-ID: <410675C2.101@margo.bijoux.nom.br> box01 at jens-wannenmacher.de wrote: >Hello, > >I read that Fedora Core 2 could damage the partition table while >installation. >( >http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00908.html >) >Is this still a problem in Fedora 3 Test 1? > >Thanks and best regards, >Jens > > > Well , I had the dual boot problem with any FC2 install I did on my computer.. On FC3t1 , I didnt use the hda=geometry parameter and it worked perfectly. -- Pedro Macedo From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 27 16:45:40 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:45:40 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> (Nalin Dahyabhai's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:30:26 -0400") References: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> Message-ID: Nalin Dahyabhai writes: > The subthread: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-June/msg00317.html > > The full thread: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-June/msg00316.html Thanks for that. Maybe this other problem regarding ssh I've been noticing is related. In past releases I've been able to put the appropriate pub id's in an ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file and start the ssh-agent while starting X. Then all my xterms have ssh-agent running. In the past that meant when I called `xterm -e ssh root at localhost' it just started an root xterm with no login. The ssh-agent handled it. I've exchanged the pub id's between $user and root .ssh/authorized_keys files. and I know it is done right because it works to remote hosts where I've put the same authorized_keys file. However, when I call ssh root at localhost I'm still queried for password. From nalin at redhat.com Tue Jul 27 17:02:25 2004 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:02:25 -0400 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040727170225.GD8071@redhat.com> On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:45:40AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Maybe this other problem regarding ssh I've been noticing is related. > In past releases I've been able to put the appropriate pub id's in an > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file and start the ssh-agent while starting X. How were you doing this? > Then all my xterms have ssh-agent running. How are you verifying that? > In the past that meant when > I called `xterm -e ssh root at localhost' it just started an root xterm > with no login. The ssh-agent handled it. > > I've exchanged the pub id's between $user and root > .ssh/authorized_keys files. and I know it is done right because it works > to remote hosts where I've put the same authorized_keys file. > However, when I call ssh root at localhost I'm still queried for password. Hmm. Works from here. Does running ssh with the -v flag give any indication why pubkey authentication fails? When you're prompted for a password, is ssh requesting your login password or the passphrase to your private key? Nalin From vfstaboy at yahoo.com Tue Jul 27 17:34:50 2004 From: vfstaboy at yahoo.com (George Crum) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3 T1 strange entries in dmesg and messages Message-ID: <20040727173450.20592.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Can anybody tell me what these are? Jul 26 20:21:03 localhost kernel: 88 3f 03 05 00 40 ed 9d 14 f2 9c ae b4 b0 84 03 e4 11 02 2e 73 00 9e 20 c4 15 ee ce dc 13 9d 2c 23 d6 f1 bd c4 ce 6f 4c 45 cb 1f 00 a0 d9 fe 1c 5d e3 d2 f1 de dd 97 80 65 4a fa fe 73 1d 07 f5 30 Jul 26 20:21:03 localhost kernel: 2e 73 70 01 cf 0b f7 db 4c ed 9c ae 9d b3 18 8a 94 5f 4e be There seems to be lots of these. Not seeing any warnings or other bad messages. This is a fresh install for a second time and still getting these strange things in my logs. I have not installed any other apps other than a default Workstation install for FC3 T1 without updating yet. I have run hardware diags on my laptop and have found all hardware in good working order. -gc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From sopwith at redhat.com Tue Jul 27 17:39:17 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:39:17 -0400 Subject: Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder Message-ID: This is a reminder of the mailing lists for the Fedora Project, and the purpose of each list. You can view this information at http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ When you're using these mailing lists, please take the time to choose the one that is most appropriate to your post. If you don't know the right mailing list to use for a question or discussion, please contact me. This will help you get the best possible answer for your question, and keep other list subscribers happy! 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I believe they are the result of the current experiment with cryptographically signed kernel modules. - J< From vfstaboy at yahoo.com Tue Jul 27 18:02:45 2004 From: vfstaboy at yahoo.com (George Crum) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC3 T1 strange entries in dmesg and messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040727180245.55974.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> --- Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "GC" == George Crum > writes: > > GC> Can anybody tell me what these are? > > I believe they are the result of the current > experiment with > cryptographically signed kernel modules. > > - J< > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > Thank you Jason. That would explain a lot there. -gc __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From reader at newsguy.com Tue Jul 27 18:05:27 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:05:27 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: <20040727170225.GD8071@redhat.com> (Nalin Dahyabhai's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:02:25 -0400") References: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> <20040727170225.GD8071@redhat.com> Message-ID: Nalin Dahyabhai writes: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:45:40AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Maybe this other problem regarding ssh I've been noticing is related. >> In past releases I've been able to put the appropriate pub id's in an >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file and start the ssh-agent while starting X. > > How were you doing this? But creating a file authorized_keys that contains host_reader@/home/reader/.ssh/id_rsa.pub (and id_dsa.pub host_reader@/root/.ssh/id_rsa.pub (and id_dsa.pub) Then puting that same file in /home/reader/.ssh and /root/.ssh (along with the public ids for: host_fwobsd@/home/reader/.ssh host_fwobsd@/root/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and id_dsa.pub Note there is no output from: sudo diff /root/.ssh/authorized_keys \ /home/reader/.ssh/authorized_keys >> Then all my xterms have ssh-agent running. > How are you verifying that? I have written a section in /etc/profile.local.sh (my own invention) that is slurped from /etc/profile if caller is root or reader. That is, at a console login this section is read if user is root or reader. And if that is the case the user is queried for some info. Namely the pass code when ssh-add gets run. Consequently any processes started from that login shell (including startx) have the agent running. That entry looks like: #!/bin/sh ## SSH_AGENT setup for certain users ## Ask only non ssh and certain users logins if they want this. ## If answered yes then ssh-agent will be running for ## this shell and any processes it spawns can access ## The ssh-agent variables left in /etc/ssh/local_env/SSH_AGENT_ENV.local SSHAGENT=/usr/bin/ssh-agent SSHAGENTARGS="-s" SSH_ADD=/usr/bin/ssh-add SSH_AGENT_ENV=$HOME/.ssh/SSH_AGENT_ENV trap "kill -KILL $SSH_AGENT_PID && rm -f $SSH_AGENT_ENV" 0 current_user=$(id -un) if [ $current_user = reader -o $current_user = root ];then if [ ! "$SSH_CLIENT" ];then echo "Do you want an authenticated ssh-agent running?" echo "If yes, type \`y '. Anything else will" echo "continue login with out ssh-agent." echo -n "ssh-agent? > " read answer if [ "$answer" = y ];then if [ -z "$SSH_AUTH_SOCK" -a -x "$SSHAGENT" ]; then echo "Passed -z SSH_AUTH_SOCK TEST" echo "Running $SSHAGENT $SSHAGENTARGS into $SSH_AGENT_ENV" echo "and sourcing it" $SSHAGENT $SSHAGENTARGS |tee $SSH_AGENT_ENV . $SSH_AGENT_ENV echo "Now running $SSH_ADD" $SSH_ADD fi fi fi fi and any xterm I open and type `ssh-agent --list' responds with: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-ZLkKhp5346/agent.5346; export SSH_AUTH_SOCK; SSH_AGENT_PID=5347; export SSH_AGENT_PID; echo Agent pid 5347; [..] Further, if I call ssh reader at fwobsd (a remote machine on home lan) it responds with a terminal (no login) If I login as root answer the above query and ssh root at fwobsd, it responds with a shell (no login) > Hmm. Works from here. Does running ssh with the -v flag give any > indication why pubkey authentication fails? Not that I notice but the output is appended at the end. > When you're prompted for a password, > is ssh requesting your login password or the passphrase to > your private key? Its requesting a normal login password. Now, some further info. You may notice in the script above any incoming logins originating from ssh will not be queried and hence will not have ssh-agent running. if [ ! "$SSH_CLIENT" ];then That is coded that way to avoid having all that querying and other output crop up on real remote ssh logins or worse on scp logins where it would completely dork them (scp). So you might think then that one would not expect a `ssh root at localhost' to bring up a terminal with ssh-agent running. And it doesn't as evidenced below. The problem is it used too. Prior to FC3. I haven't changed the script in any way. So in the past the calling user terminal must have passed the agent pid to the new root term. (or something similar) I'm thinking the way SHELL vars are handled in ssh exchange may have changed as has some other behaviors. Maybe something similar to the new `trusted' variables. reader $ ssh -v root at localhost OpenSSH_3.8.1p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7a Feb 19 2003 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/reader/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/reader/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 debug1: identity file /home/reader/.ssh/id_dsa type 2 debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'localhost' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /home/reader/.ssh/known_hosts:2 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password debug1: Next authentication method: gssapi-with-mic debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Offering public key: /home/reader/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password debug1: Offering public key: /home/reader/.ssh/id_dsa debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password debug1: Trying private key: /home/reader/.ssh/identity debug1: Next authentication method: password root at localhost's password: From dcastle at carolina.rr.com Tue Jul 27 19:24:42 2004 From: dcastle at carolina.rr.com (Dwaine Castle) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:24:42 -0400 Subject: startx vs init 5 Message-ID: <067601c4740f$5f59d230$6401a8c0@DCXP> Brian, I have a fresh install of FC3t1. I almost always log in as root which many people have reminded me is stupid. I know, but this is just a test machine that I am using to learn about Linux. I can't figure out the "Access Denied" messages either because all the files in and under the root directory belong to root. The permissions look OK also. Thank you very much for your help. I'll ignore those messages. Thank you. Dwaine From nalin at redhat.com Tue Jul 27 19:53:13 2004 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:53:13 -0400 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> <20040727170225.GD8071@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040727195312.GF8071@redhat.com> On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 01:05:27PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > But creating a file authorized_keys that contains > host_reader@/home/reader/.ssh/id_rsa.pub (and id_dsa.pub > host_reader@/root/.ssh/id_rsa.pub (and id_dsa.pub) > > > Then puting that same file in /home/reader/.ssh and > /root/.ssh > (along with the public ids for: > host_fwobsd@/home/reader/.ssh > host_fwobsd@/root/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and id_dsa.pub > > Note there is no output from: > sudo diff /root/.ssh/authorized_keys \ > /home/reader/.ssh/authorized_keys Please double-check the permissions on the respective users' ~/.ssh directories and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files. Both should be readable by root, and neither should be group-writable. > and any xterm I open and type `ssh-agent --list' responds with: > > SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-ZLkKhp5346/agent.5346; export SSH_AUTH_SOCK; > SSH_AGENT_PID=5347; export SSH_AGENT_PID; > echo Agent pid 5347; > > [..] I don't think this does what you think it does. Try 'ssh-add -l' to query the list of keys which your current agent holds. HTH, Nalin From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 27 22:17:08 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:17:08 -0400 Subject: FC3-test1 agpgart warning on boot and very slow performance In-Reply-To: <1090926275.6363.1.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> References: <1090926275.6363.1.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> Message-ID: <4106D464.9000609@sbcglobal.net> Simon Sedgwick wrote: > I've just installed FC3-test1 on a spare box I've got laying about. This > was a clean install onto a disk that previously had FC1 on it and ran > fine. I chose a straight workstation install and performance during the > install process was okay. > > After it had finished installing I rebooted the machine and everything > was fine until the kernel had decompressed the it came up with the > following error: (dmesg) > > agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset, but could not find the > secondary device. > agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset. > agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M > agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf8000000 > > Anything obvious spring to mind chaps? > > Simon > > What is the second card that you have setup? I have a system with an Intel 815 video card that is working fine. With another Dell computer with an Intel 828 656 card (810 driver) I get 2 hours out of X before the following process die. I thought rd-bomb was some 2 hr timer before I found out that it was a screensaver. This is an agpgart error also. [drm:i830_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 131052 wanted 131064 Hopefully this problem will be gone for FC3T2. Jim 70,76d69 < 2592 tty2 00:00:00 startx < 2603 tty2 00:00:00 xinit < 2604 ? 00:01:30 X < 2641 tty2 00:00:00 gnome-session < 2655 ? 00:00:00 ssh-agent < 2659 tty2 00:00:01 gconfd-2 < 2662 tty2 00:00:00 gnome-keyring-d 78,94d70 < 2666 ? 00:00:00 gnome-settings- < 2671 ? 00:00:00 fam < 2740 ? 00:00:00 xscreensaver < 2764 ? 00:00:02 metacity < 2768 ? 00:00:02 gnome-panel < 2770 ? 00:00:05 nautilus < 2772 ? 00:00:01 magicdev < 2774 ? 00:00:00 eggcups < 2776 ? 00:00:00 pam-panel-icon < 2778 ? 00:00:03 rhn-applet-gui < 2779 ? 00:00:00 pam_timestamp_c < 2783 ? 00:00:00 gnome-vfs-daemo < 2810 ? 00:00:00 mapping-daemon < 2812 ? 00:00:00 clock-applet < 2814 ? 00:00:00 notification-ar < 2816 ? 00:00:00 mixer_applet2 < 2823 ? 00:00:01 wnck-applet 98,99c74 < 3147 ? 00:00:00 rd-bomb -- Why won't sharks eat lawyers? Professional courtesy. From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Wed Jul 28 03:59:36 2004 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:59:36 -0500 Subject: startx vs init 5 In-Reply-To: <067601c4740f$5f59d230$6401a8c0@DCXP> References: <067601c4740f$5f59d230$6401a8c0@DCXP> Message-ID: <200407272259.36700.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Tuesday 27 July 2004 02:24 pm, Dwaine Castle wrote: > Brian, > > I have a fresh install of FC3t1. I almost always log in as root which many > people have reminded me is stupid. I know, but this is just a test machine > that I am using to learn about Linux. Your friends are right.. not only is it stupid.. but there may be other things that are NOT ALLOWED due to selinux restrictions. Logging into an X based GUI environment as root is bad. Just stop doing it. or else. ;) > I can't figure out the "Access Denied" messages either because all the > files in and under the root directory belong to root. The permissions look > OK also. > > Thank you very much for your help. I'll ignore those messages. Try logging in as a non-root user and see if the messages go away. The problem is probably PEBKAC related... ;) Tweeks From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Wed Jul 28 04:13:00 2004 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:13:00 -0500 Subject: Problem loading FC3 Test 1 on ASUS K8V Deluxe mother board with an AMD64 processor In-Reply-To: <001201c473c6$e90738e0$64c8a8c0@jack> References: <001201c473c6$e90738e0$64c8a8c0@jack> Message-ID: <200407272313.00057.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Tuesday 27 July 2004 05:46 am, Jack Burge wrote: > When I try to load FC3 Test 1 everything is OK until it tries to load the > "sata_via driver", the system just hangs at this point. The only way to > recover is to reboot. Try checking your BIOS settings for SATA vs PATA mode. If you're using SATA... don't have the CD ROM on the same PATA bus as the hard drive. If nothing... at the GRUB menu... try "a"ppending acpi=off (was than on or off by default now?) or: acpi_serialize acpi_osi= Tweeks From fedora at kjb.dds.nl Wed Jul 28 08:09:16 2004 From: fedora at kjb.dds.nl (Klaasjan Brand) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:09:16 +0200 Subject: FC3-test1 agpgart warning on boot and very slow performance In-Reply-To: <1090926275.6363.1.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> References: <1090926275.6363.1.camel@raven.vtr.co.uk> Message-ID: <1091002156.25736.1.camel@topicus6> On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 13:04, Simon Sedgwick wrote: > After it had finished installing I rebooted the machine and everything > was fine until the kernel had decompressed the it came up with the > following error: (dmesg) > > agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset, but could not find the > secondary device. That's not an error; it just means you're using an i815 variant without the on-board video card (or maybe with disabled onboard video). > agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset. > agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M > agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf8000000 > Anything obvious spring to mind chaps? Does your system crash over there? Mine also reports the missing secondary device, but runs fine. -- groet, Klaasjan Brand Topicus B.V. From arjanv at redhat.com Wed Jul 28 08:17:52 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:17:52 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> Message-ID: <1091002671.2795.23.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 03:45, Brian R Smith wrote: > Hi, > > Regarding Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers, unfortionately your report is useless unless you can reproduce without nvidia. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From reader at newsguy.com Wed Jul 28 10:06:04 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 05:06:04 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: <20040727195312.GF8071@redhat.com> (Nalin Dahyabhai's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:53:13 -0400") References: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> <20040727170225.GD8071@redhat.com> <20040727195312.GF8071@redhat.com> Message-ID: Nalin Dahyabhai writes: > Please double-check the permissions on the respective users' ~/.ssh > directories and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files. Both should be readable > by root, and neither should be group-writable. ssh writes the *.pub keys at 644 itself A ssh -vv would have revealed those kinds of problems... ls -l .ssh total 36 -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 4298 Jul 25 17:06 authorized_keys -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 3600 Mar 4 06:01 authorized_keys~ -rw------- 1 reader reader 744 Mar 4 06:16 id_dsa -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 614 Mar 4 06:16 id_dsa.pub -rw------- 1 reader reader 951 Mar 4 06:15 id_rsa -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 234 Mar 4 06:15 id_rsa.pub >> and any xterm I open and type `ssh-agent --list' responds with: >> >> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-ZLkKhp5346/agent.5346; export SSH_AUTH_SOCK; >> SSH_AGENT_PID=5347; export SSH_AGENT_PID; >> echo Agent pid 5347; >> >> [..] > > I don't think this does what you think it does. Try 'ssh-add -l' to > query the list of keys which your current agent holds. I think it does... All I expected it to show was that the instant xterm knows the ssh-agent pid and hence which socket to talk to. Further I know for certain any xterm I start in my desktop can handle a remote ssh login under agent control because I do it constantly. If the agent wasn't running then sshing to remote mach fwobsd would result in a login prompt but does not. Either from $user or root account. But just for good measure: ssh-add -l 1024 96:c0:59:ac:53:56:21:3c:6c:33:36:30:00:e1:b7:50 /home/reader/.ssh/id_rsa (RSA) 1024 f2:5c:c8:20:6a:3b:33:1e:35:45:c9:3d:6d:18:42:e2 /home/reader/.ssh/id_dsa (DSA) What is puzzling here is why it acts different now under FC3. echo $SSH_CLIENT From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Jul 28 12:34:18 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:34:18 +0100 Subject: Spamassassin/Evolution under fc3t1 Message-ID: <1091018059.3279.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, If I disable all spam checks under the current beta of Evolution, my email comes down happily. If I enable them, the email slows down considerably and finally sticks on message 12 (it is always message 12). I've seen this before and basically, it just needed .spamassassin being hosed - but that doesn't seem to have worked this time. On my other FC3t1 machine, SA works just fine (that box hasn't missed a beat other than going from RH 7.3 to 8) as does the FC2 box at work. As a quick test, I've just brought over the .spamassassin directory from the other machine and downloading email/checking is still dog slow. Any ideas on what is causing this? TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From doug at dmaurer.net Wed Jul 28 12:51:59 2004 From: doug at dmaurer.net (Doug Maurer) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:51:59 -0400 Subject: new dependencies Message-ID: <1091019119.2449.2.camel@dougs-laptop> well tried to up2date my fresh system again, now I'm getting a new dependency errors. Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: grip 3.2.0-1 requires libcurl.so.2 php 4.3.8-3 requires libcurl.so.2 vorbis-tools 1.0.1-3 requires libcurl.so.2 xine-ui 0.99.2cvs-040711 requires libcurl.so.2 I've not been able to update this computer since I reinstalled fc3t1 -- Doug Maurer doug at dmaurer.net Linux user #299439 From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Wed Jul 28 14:03:28 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:03:28 +0300 Subject: Spamassassin/Evolution under fc3t1 In-Reply-To: <1091018059.3279.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1091018059.3279.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1091023408.5844.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 13:34 +0100, Paul wrote: > I've just brought over the .spamassassin directory from > the other machine and downloading email/checking is still dog slow. Same for me, spamassassin uses a lot of cycles. I already disabled remote tests from Mail Preferences -> Junk. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Wed Jul 28 13:59:22 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:59:22 -0400 Subject: new dependencies In-Reply-To: <1091019119.2449.2.camel@dougs-laptop> References: <1091019119.2449.2.camel@dougs-laptop> Message-ID: <1091023162.21784.25.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 08:51, Doug Maurer wrote: > well tried to up2date my fresh system again, now I'm getting a new > dependency errors. > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > grip 3.2.0-1 requires libcurl.so.2 > php 4.3.8-3 requires libcurl.so.2 > vorbis-tools 1.0.1-3 requires libcurl.so.2 > xine-ui 0.99.2cvs-040711 requires libcurl.so.2 > > > I've not been able to update this computer since I reinstalled fc3t1 Same here. --exclude=curl* if your using yum. Don't select curl or curl-devel if you're using up2date. Bob... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mpleite at ppl-ti.com Wed Jul 28 14:12:56 2004 From: mpleite at ppl-ti.com (Miguel Pereira Leite) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:12:56 +0100 Subject: new dependencies In-Reply-To: <1091019119.2449.2.camel@dougs-laptop> References: <1091019119.2449.2.camel@dougs-laptop> Message-ID: <1091023975.10294.9.camel@douro.ppl-ti.com> Hi I've had the same problem. Resolved, temporarily, the problem by creating a simbolic link to libcurl.so.3 (after instaling curl) ln -s /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2 it's not the correct solution but until the deps are corrected, it works. A Qua, 2004-07-28 ?s 13:51, Doug Maurer escreveu: > well tried to up2date my fresh system again, now I'm getting a new > dependency errors. > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... > There was a package dependency problem. The message was: > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > grip 3.2.0-1 requires libcurl.so.2 > php 4.3.8-3 requires libcurl.so.2 > vorbis-tools 1.0.1-3 requires libcurl.so.2 > xine-ui 0.99.2cvs-040711 requires libcurl.so.2 > > > I've not been able to update this computer since I reinstalled fc3t1 > > -- > Doug Maurer > doug at dmaurer.net > Linux user #299439 -- Miguel Pereira Leite Proen?a & Pereira Leite - Tecnologias de Informa??o, Lda -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta ? uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente URL: From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Wed Jul 28 14:19:25 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:19:25 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <1091002671.2795.23.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> <1091002671.2795.23.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <1091024364.8272.12.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> > unfortionately your report is useless unless you can reproduce > without nvidia. Unless you are running Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 with the Nvidia drivers and have problems. There aren't a whole lot of people running Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 so posting this report to Nvidia would have been useless. I posted it here in case people who are running Kernel-2.6.7-1.494, likely FC-devel people, run into the same problem. As well, if I were like some people and had 4 or 5 machines laying around with different hardware, I'd have already tested this theory without "nvidia", but some of us are not that lucky. Laptops don't surrender their video cards for replacement easily. I could try using the "nv" driver, but it certainly wouldn't help in testing 3d. I could try to see if the kacpid process races without the "nvidia" driver on my machine??? I know that you guys do not tailor the kernel to run with the nvidia drivers, that its nvidia's responsibility to produce a driver that will run on their customers machine. I just figured there might be _someone_ on here that would benefit from my encounter. -brian On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 04:17, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 03:45, Brian R Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Regarding Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers, > > unfortionately your report is useless unless you can reproduce without > nvidia. > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From linux at bytebot.net Wed Jul 28 15:12:47 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:12:47 +1000 Subject: Gnome menu In-Reply-To: <1089902921.22626.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1089902921.22626.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1091027566.12332.67.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 00:48, Tim Raats wrote: > I cant add items to the gnome menu. How do I add items manually ? Best to post on fedora-list at redhat.com for this kind of question. Reading the archives will help as well, since this is a frequently asked question -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From villegas at math.gatech.edu Wed Jul 28 15:35:26 2004 From: villegas at math.gatech.edu (Carlos Villegas) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:35:26 -0400 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040728153526.GA20334@math30192.math.gatech.edu> On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 10:06:49AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Nope... I hadn't. Never used it before and had no problem, is it new? > Anyway, the -Y flag fixes things for me. ... thanks > > Doesn't appear to be new in ssh but I didn't need it in fc1 fc2, so > something must have changed. I might be mistaken, but I think it was added to ssh 3.8, where the X stuff is divided into "safe" and "unsafe", and you can allow ones while dissallowing the others, in some short experimenting I did, I found that for most uses you need both, so it looks kind of worthless (but I don't know the underlying details...), you can enable them by default in the ssh_config, or keep using that flag. Carlos From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 15:55:37 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:55:37 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <1091024364.8272.12.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> <1091002671.2795.23.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1091024364.8272.12.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Message-ID: <604aa791040728085545f7269d@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:19:25 -0400, Brian R Smith wrote: > I just figured there might be _someone_ > on here that would benefit from my encounter. I'm sure that some user out there will end up eventually googling and finding your report. So in the most general sense, you are probably right.. someone will end up finding your report not unuseful. But certaintly, a report like this is unuseful to developers since any problems that only happen when nvidia or other proprietary kernel module take an immense amount of effort to debug without access to the code. And even if the kernel developers could diagnose this problem after considerable effort, they can't necessarily fix the problem if its nvidia driver specific becuase they don't have access to nvidia's codebase. Useful reports to developers, whether it be in this mailinglist or bugzilla or the irc chat, need to be situations that developers can attempt to reproduce AND diagnose via code review. There must be a path towards achievable resolution for it to be worth their time, and to be useful to them. So please be considerate the audience you are trying to reach and use the appropriate forum. If you want to make other testers aware of your problems and compare notes with other testers use fedora-test-list. -jef From caolanm at redhat.com Wed Jul 28 16:03:25 2004 From: caolanm at redhat.com (Caolan McNamara) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:03:25 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gnumeric-1.2.8-2 Message-ID: <20040728160325.GA18529@devserv.devel.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-243 2004-07-28 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : gnumeric Version : 1.2.8 Release : 2 Summary : A spreadsheet program for GNOME. Description : Gnumeric is a spreadsheet program for the GNOME GUI desktop environment. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: To fix #126374# a permissions problem with 1.2.8-1 in fc2 which affects the usage of plugins --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Apr 13 2004 Warren Togami 1.2.8-2 - #74034 own plugin dir - #111112 BR intltool scrollkeeper gettext desktop-file-utils - some cleanup --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 4a2780c055b4d9befbca6093357d69de SRPMS/gnumeric-1.2.8-2.src.rpm 81212157ff4794cc6ee039ea3ef0a62c x86_64/gnumeric-1.2.8-2.x86_64.rpm 1d0c22729ee6f0a8975cf160dabb9e46 x86_64/gnumeric-devel-1.2.8-2.x86_64.rpm 6e8ee56ed0a55117a8d63e1fc06e5227 x86_64/debug/gnumeric-debuginfo-1.2.8-2.x86_64.rpm caa64aca3628901b7cc88b81b29e045b i386/gnumeric-1.2.8-2.i386.rpm dd3ac3e4cd50215cf31bc1ef42794fe3 i386/gnumeric-devel-1.2.8-2.i386.rpm 597494b654faad7cf37770ed4a9a073c i386/debug/gnumeric-debuginfo-1.2.8-2.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From reader at newsguy.com Wed Jul 28 16:16:02 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:16:02 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: <20040728153526.GA20334@math30192.math.gatech.edu> (Carlos Villegas's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:35:26 -0400") References: <20040728153526.GA20334@math30192.math.gatech.edu> Message-ID: Carlos Villegas writes: > I might be mistaken, but I think it was added to ssh 3.8, where the > X stuff is divided into "safe" and "unsafe", and you can allow ones > while dissallowing the others, in some short experimenting I did, I > found that for most uses you need both, so it looks kind of > worthless (but I don't know the underlying details...), you can > enable them by default in the ssh_config, or keep using that flag. Enable what? From reader at newsguy.com Wed Jul 28 16:23:09 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:23:09 -0500 Subject: Spamassassin/Evolution under fc3t1 In-Reply-To: <1091023408.5844.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> (Marius Andreiana's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:03:28 +0300") References: <1091018059.3279.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1091023408.5844.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: Marius Andreiana writes: > On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 13:34 +0100, Paul wrote: >> I've just brought over the .spamassassin directory from >> the other machine and downloading email/checking is still dog slow. > Same for me, spamassassin uses a lot of cycles. I already disabled > remote tests from Mail Preferences -> Junk. My solution for a while now has been to weed out the easy spam with procmail before it gets to spamassassin. It can really cut down on the load that goes thru spamassassin If you are using procmail to invoke spamassassin then just put the homemade recipes ahead of that one. If not then spamassassin docu has tips for how to set that up. There are a number of generic procmail scripts available on line to get you started. `google procmail spam recipe' will get you started I think. As you experiment you will find more and more traps that will further ease spamassasins work. From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed Jul 28 17:45:13 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:45:13 -0400 Subject: FC2->FC3T1 on Thinkpad A21p Message-ID: <1091036713.23222.2.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Reporting on experiences upgrading an FC2 (+ some 3rd party packages) system on an IBM Thinkpad A21p notebook to FC3T1, but not without some glitches. This system has survived upgrades from RH7.x through RH8.0, RH9, FC1, FC2T3, and FC2 (not to mention W98_2ed, WinXP). Booted the installer kernel from grub and selected NFS upgrade (have a local copy of the FC3T1 tree exported). First, encountered a lockup when the installer attempted to access the network - should have anticipated this as this system has had to be booted with acpi=off for some time to avoid this type of lockup. Rebooted with acpi=off and got a bit farther. Filed bug #128711. Seems that many installation problems could be avoided if the installation kernel omitted ACPI. Any compelling reasons not to do that? Also would be friendly if the installer had the ability to detect known hardware configurations that have trouble with ACPI and automatically add it to the GRUB kernel line. Opinions? Next encountered an anaconda crash, bug #127713, due the existence of /selinux - again this could have been anticipated given a bugzilla search and/or remembering/reviewing what had already been discussed on this list. Clobbered /selinux and tried again. Hopefully this will get fixed before FC3T2. This system is dual-boot with WinXP on the single hard drive, and would appear to be vulnerable to the installer bug that renders windows unbootable (sfdisk and fdisk disagree on geometry) but encountered no problems with XP, presumably as the upgrade should not have touched the partition table. [Ought to dump XP anyway and free up the space - only remaining need given the state of OOo and Crossover Office is to use the built-in Winmodem that never has gotten Linux support. A PCMCIA modem could fix that.] This time the upgrade proceeded to completion. Next tried to run "yum upgrade" on rawhide repository and found conflicts with left-over ATrpms libraries: ... Running test transaction: Errors reported doing trial run file /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 from install of glib2-2.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package libglib2.0_0-2.4.1-0.99_4.rhfc2.at file /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 from install of glib2-2.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package libglib2.0_0-2.4.1-0.99_4.rhfc2.at file /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 from install of glib2-2.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package libglib2.0_0-2.4.1-0.99_4.rhfc2.at file /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 from install of glib2-2.4.4-1 conflicts with file from package libglib2.0_0-2.4.1-0.99_4.rhfc2.at file /usr/lib/librpm-4.3.so from install of rpm-4.3.2-0.6 conflicts with file from package librpm4.3-4.3.1-0.3_27.rhfc2.at file /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.3.so from install of rpm-4.3.2-0.6 conflicts with file from package librpm4.3-4.3.1-0.3_27.rhfc2.at file /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.3.so from install of rpm-4.3.2-0.6 conflicts with file from package librpm4.3-4.3.1-0.3_27.rhfc2.at file /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so from install of rpm-4.3.2-0.6 conflicts with file from package librpm4.3-4.3.1-0.3_27.rhfc2.at Did "yum remove libglib2.0_0 librpm4.3" which fixed that problem, checked for any other old rpm cruft (rpm -qa --qf "%{INSTALLTIME} % {NAME} %{VERSION} %{RELEASE}\n" | sort -r >RPMS_by_Install_Time), and finding none, tried the update again. Updated 150 packages. Lots of errors similar to: /usr/share/gnome/help/wireless/fr/wireless.xml:38: parser error : Entity 'legal' not defined &legal; ^ /usr/share/gnome/help/wireless/fr/wireless.xml:45: parser error : Entity 'Eacute' not defined Équipe de documentation ^ /usr/share/gnome/help/wireless/fr/wireless.xml:76: parser error : Entity 'ucirc' not defined Août 2003 ^ The files are from gnome-applets. Have seen this sort of error before, but couldn't find this under gnome-applets on Bugzilla, so filed Bug #128717. Not too bad so far for a T1 upgrade. Rollin', rollin', rollin'... Phil From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Wed Jul 28 17:47:59 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:47:59 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <604aa791040728085545f7269d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> <1091002671.2795.23.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1091024364.8272.12.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> <604aa791040728085545f7269d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1091036878.32012.17.camel@ava> > If you want to make other testers aware of your problems and > compare notes with other testers use fedora-test-list For testers of Fedora Core development releases... That's what I've been using... is there another fedora-test-list I should be aware of? Quoting myself from the message you quoted: >> I know that you guys do not tailor the kernel to run >> with the nvidia drivers, that its nvidia's responsibility >> to produce a driver that will run on their customers machine. Never mind then. I know you guys can't do anything about the nvidia drivers because you don't have access to the source, as I stated in the same post that you quoted. That said, I only posted to assist users who may run into the same problem, fully aware of how the linux development process goes as far as proprietary drivers are concerned: avoid them like the plague and keep them as far from the tree as possible. If FC3 or kernel-2.6.8 w/PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is released and this problem still exists for people like me, then we will go to nvidia for a fix, because it is their problem, not yours. -brian On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 11:55, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:19:25 -0400, Brian R Smith > wrote: > > I just figured there might be _someone_ > > on here that would benefit from my encounter. > > I'm sure that some user out there will end up eventually googling and > finding your report. > So in the most general sense, you are probably right.. someone will > end up finding your report not unuseful. But certaintly, a report like > this is unuseful to developers since any problems that only happen > when nvidia or other proprietary kernel module take an immense amount > of effort to debug without access to the code. And even if the kernel > developers could diagnose this problem after considerable effort, they > can't necessarily fix the problem if its nvidia driver specific > becuase they don't have access to nvidia's codebase. > > Useful reports to developers, whether it be in this mailinglist or > bugzilla or the irc chat, need to be situations that developers can > attempt to reproduce AND diagnose via code review. There must be a > path towards achievable resolution for it to be worth their time, and > to be useful to them. So please be considerate the audience you are > trying to reach and use the appropriate forum. If you want to make > other testers aware of your problems and compare notes with other > testers use fedora-test-list. > > -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 18:16:48 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:16:48 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <1091036878.32012.17.camel@ava> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> <1091002671.2795.23.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1091024364.8272.12.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> <604aa791040728085545f7269d@mail.gmail.com> <1091036878.32012.17.camel@ava> Message-ID: <604aa791040728111626b8205f@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:47:59 -0400, Brian R Smith wrote: > > If you want to make other testers aware of your problems and > > compare notes with other testers use fedora-test-list > > For testers of Fedora Core development releases... You know what... im an idiot... I apologize. Luckily i did say please this time, so at least i get points for being a civil idiot. -jef"will gladly accept his rightfuly deserved egg on his face, becuase well I've never been really keen on using eating utensils and egg tastes good"spaleta From nalin at redhat.com Wed Jul 28 18:27:13 2004 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:27:13 -0400 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20040728153526.GA20334@math30192.math.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20040728182712.GB7143@redhat.com> On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 11:16:02AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Carlos Villegas writes: > > > I might be mistaken, but I think it was added to ssh 3.8, where the > > X stuff is divided into "safe" and "unsafe", and you can allow ones > > while dissallowing the others, in some short experimenting I did, I > > found that for most uses you need both, so it looks kind of > > worthless (but I don't know the underlying details...), you can > > enable them by default in the ssh_config, or keep using that flag. > > Enable what? The ForwardX11Trusted option, I believe. Nalin From reader at newsguy.com Wed Jul 28 18:26:48 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:26:48 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: <20040728103807.A694@mail.harddata.com> (Michal Jaegermann's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:38:07 -0600") References: <20040728153526.GA20334@math30192.math.gatech.edu> <20040728103807.A694@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: Michal Jaegermann writes: >> >> Enable what? > > 'man ssh_config' and search for "X11" string. > I was afraid that was what you were referencing. Have you tried inserting `ForwardX11Trusted yes' in /etc/sshd_config? The man page says it will work but: Here it causes a read error when I restart sshd service sshd start Starting sshd:/etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 85: Bad configuration option: ForwardX11Trusted /etc/ssh/sshd_config: terminating, 1 bad configuration options [FAILED] Unless I remove or comment it out, sshd won't run, so I'm thinking there is a little more to the story. From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Jul 28 18:43:05 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:43:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20040728153526.GA20334@math30192.math.gatech.edu> <20040728103807.A694@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Michal Jaegermann writes: > > >> > >> Enable what? > > > > 'man ssh_config' and search for "X11" string. > > > > I was afraid that was what you were referencing. Have you tried > inserting `ForwardX11Trusted yes' in /etc/sshd_config? > > The man page says it will work but: > Here it causes a read error when I restart sshd > > service sshd start > Starting sshd:/etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 85: Bad configuration option: > ForwardX11Trusted /etc/ssh/sshd_config: terminating, 1 bad > configuration options [FAILED] > > Unless I remove or comment it out, sshd won't run, so I'm thinking > there is a little more to the story. This is an option to ssh ( not sshd ) - and goes into /etc/ssh_config (not /etc/sshd_config) Satish From reader at newsguy.com Wed Jul 28 19:03:58 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:03:58 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: (Satish Balay's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:43:05 -0500 (CDT)") References: <20040728153526.GA20334@math30192.math.gatech.edu> <20040728103807.A694@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: Satish Balay writes: > This is an option to ssh ( not sshd ) - and goes into /etc/ssh_config > (not /etc/sshd_config) Gack... Ok so do they both go in ssh_config. I see `X11Forwarding yes' is already in /etc/ssh/sshd_config by default. From balay at fastmail.fm Wed Jul 28 19:13:28 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:13:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20040728153526.GA20334@math30192.math.gatech.edu> <20040728103807.A694@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Harry Putnam wrote: > Satish Balay writes: > > > This is an option to ssh ( not sshd ) - and goes into /etc/ssh_config > > (not /etc/sshd_config) > > Gack... Ok so do they both go in ssh_config. I see > `X11Forwarding yes' is already in /etc/ssh/sshd_config by default. sshd - X11Forwarding ssh - ForwardX11, ForwardX11Trusted The options are different - and doumented in the respective man pages sshd_config , ssh_config Satish From nalin at redhat.com Wed Jul 28 19:24:11 2004 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:24:11 -0400 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> <20040727170225.GD8071@redhat.com> <20040727195312.GF8071@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040728192411.GD7143@redhat.com> On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 05:06:04AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Nalin Dahyabhai writes: > > Please double-check the permissions on the respective users' ~/.ssh > > directories and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files. Both should be readable > > by root, and neither should be group-writable. > > ssh writes the *.pub keys at 644 itself > > A ssh -vv would have revealed those kinds of problems... > ls -l .ssh > total 36 > -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 4298 Jul 25 17:06 authorized_keys > -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 3600 Mar 4 06:01 authorized_keys~ [snip] What are the permissions on /root/.ssh and /root/.ssh/authorized_keys? > >> and any xterm I open and type `ssh-agent --list' responds with: > >> > >> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-ZLkKhp5346/agent.5346; export SSH_AUTH_SOCK; > >> SSH_AGENT_PID=5347; export SSH_AGENT_PID; > >> echo Agent pid 5347; > >> > >> [..] > > > > I don't think this does what you think it does. Try 'ssh-add -l' to > > query the list of keys which your current agent holds. > > I think it does... All I expected it to show was that the instant > xterm knows the ssh-agent pid and hence which socket to talk to. I believe you're mistaken -- that launched a new copy of ssh-agent. > Further I know for certain any xterm I start in my desktop can handle > a remote ssh login under agent control because I do it constantly. If > the agent wasn't running then sshing to remote mach fwobsd would > result in a login prompt but does not. Either from $user or root > account. But just for good measure: > > ssh-add -l > 1024 96:c0:59:ac:53:56:21:3c:6c:33:36:30:00:e1:b7:50 /home/reader/.ssh/id_rsa (RSA) > 1024 f2:5c:c8:20:6a:3b:33:1e:35:45:c9:3d:6d:18:42:e2 /home/reader/.ssh/id_dsa (DSA) Are you able to connect to the root account remotely using pubkey authentication? Nalin From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed Jul 28 19:25:21 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:25:21 +0100 Subject: Spamassassin/Evolution under fc3t1 In-Reply-To: <1091023408.5844.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1091018059.3279.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1091023408.5844.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1091042722.3247.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > > I've just brought over the .spamassassin directory from > > the other machine and downloading email/checking is still dog slow. > Same for me, spamassassin uses a lot of cycles. I already disabled > remote tests from Mail Preferences -> Junk. That was the first thing I tried. No good, still dog slow. TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Wed Jul 28 19:26:44 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:26:44 -0400 Subject: Kernel-2.6.7-1.494 and Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <604aa791040728111626b8205f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200407242359.i6ONx8Yv009247@orion.dwf.com> <20040725021045.GB18725@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <883cfe6d040724210538e8c56c@mail.gmail.com> <200407242327.22446.lsomike@futzin.com> <4103589B.70408@gmx.de> <1090741510.5248.12.camel@ava> <1091002671.2795.23.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1091024364.8272.12.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> <604aa791040728085545f7269d@mail.gmail.com> <1091036878.32012.17.camel@ava> <604aa791040728111626b8205f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1091042803.5449.2.camel@ava> thanks for having a sense of humor about it and being so polite by saying please. your sigs are famous. -brian On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 14:16, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:47:59 -0400, Brian R Smith > wrote: > > > If you want to make other testers aware of your problems and > > > compare notes with other testers use fedora-test-list > > > > For testers of Fedora Core development releases... > > You know what... im an idiot... I apologize. > Luckily i did say please this time, so at least i get points for being > a civil idiot. > > > -jef"will gladly accept his rightfuly deserved egg on his face, > becuase well I've never been really keen on using eating utensils and > egg tastes good"spaleta > From lsomike at futzin.com Wed Jul 28 19:40:39 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:40:39 -0500 Subject: Spamassassin/Evolution under fc3t1 In-Reply-To: <1091042722.3247.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1091018059.3279.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1091023408.5844.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1091042722.3247.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200407281440.39614.lsomike@futzin.com> On Wednesday 28 July 2004 14:25, Paul wrote: > > Same for me, spamassassin uses a lot of cycles. I already > > disabled remote tests from Mail Preferences -> Junk. > > That was the first thing I tried. No good, still dog slow. > > TTFN > > Paul I'm not familiar with Evolution but if your selection of "Mail Prefereces -> Junk" doesn't mean that spamassassin is invoked with the "-L" parameter it may help if you use it (spamassassin -L). Regards, Mike Klinke From mike at netlyncs.com Wed Jul 28 21:05:02 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:05:02 -0500 Subject: Spamassassin/Evolution under fc3t1 In-Reply-To: <1091042722.3247.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1091018059.3279.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1091023408.5844.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1091042722.3247.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1091048702.8645.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 20:25 +0100, Paul wrote: > > > I've just brought over the .spamassassin directory from > > > the other machine and downloading email/checking is still dog slow. > > Same for me, spamassassin uses a lot of cycles. I already disabled > > remote tests from Mail Preferences -> Junk. > > That was the first thing I tried. No good, still dog slow. What if you select not to check for *any* junk, does it still go slow? I have that problem and it's something with the way evolution interacts with spamassassin. I just turned it off completely and just use spamassassin for now until it gets better. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From mattdm at mattdm.org Wed Jul 28 21:42:10 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:42:10 -0400 Subject: Spamassassin/Evolution under fc3t1 In-Reply-To: <1091042722.3247.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1091018059.3279.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1091023408.5844.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1091042722.3247.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040728214210.GA24804@jadzia.bu.edu> On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 08:25:21PM +0100, Paul wrote: > That was the first thing I tried. No good, still dog slow. Are you using spamassassin in daemon mode, or standalone? If standalone, switching to running as a daemon will make a huge difference. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From reader at newsguy.com Thu Jul 29 04:02:44 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:02:44 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: <20040728192411.GD7143@redhat.com> (Nalin Dahyabhai's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:24:11 -0400") References: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> <20040727170225.GD8071@redhat.com> <20040727195312.GF8071@redhat.com> <20040728192411.GD7143@redhat.com> Message-ID: Nalin Dahyabhai writes: Malin, instead of jumping me thru hoops in post after post how about just saying whats on your mind here. From nalin at redhat.com Thu Jul 29 05:53:05 2004 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:53:05 -0400 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> <20040727170225.GD8071@redhat.com> <20040727195312.GF8071@redhat.com> <20040728192411.GD7143@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040729055305.GB29721@redhat.com> On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 11:02:44PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Nalin Dahyabhai writes: > > Malin, instead of jumping me thru hoops in post after post how about > just saying whats on your mind here. Harry, I'm not trying to be difficult. If I'm coming across that way, I apologize. I asked you what the permissions were on the .ssh directory and its contents for both users, and you gave me that data for the one of the users. I'm wondering if the permissions on root's files (or the .ssh directory itself) may be incorrect. The output of "ssh -vv" wouldn't tell you that pubkey authentication was denied for that reason because it only prints client-side debugging messages (you need to run sshd with the "-d" flag to debug the server side). Attempting pubkey authentication from another system with the same key would be one way of ruling that possibility out, because if that is indeed the problem, then pubkey authentication should fail no matter which client system you're coming from. It works when I try it here, so if that's not it, nothing else is jumping out, and that's frustrating. I'm telling you that running "ssh-agent --list" doesn't indicate whether or not another copy of ssh-agent is running, because the ssh-agent program does not recognize a --list flag. Running "ssh-agent --list" just launches another copy of ssh-agent, a copy which will go unused. HTH, Nalin From reader at newsguy.com Thu Jul 29 11:55:54 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:55:54 -0500 Subject: Track down problem with access to display 0.0 In-Reply-To: <20040729055305.GB29721@redhat.com> (Nalin Dahyabhai's message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:53:05 -0400") References: <20040727153025.GC8071@redhat.com> <20040727170225.GD8071@redhat.com> <20040727195312.GF8071@redhat.com> <20040728192411.GD7143@redhat.com> <20040729055305.GB29721@redhat.com> Message-ID: Nalin Dahyabhai writes: > Harry, I'm not trying to be difficult. If I'm coming across that way, I > apologize. Sorry... guess I'm getting crochety in my old age... > I asked you what the permissions were on the .ssh directory and its > contents for both users, and you gave me that data for the one of the > users. I started out to do that very thing but got side tracked before completing. Came back from dinner and posted without all info. > I'm wondering if the permissions on root's files (or the .ssh > directory itself) may be incorrect. The output of "ssh -vv" wouldn't > tell you that pubkey authentication was denied for that reason because > it only prints client-side debugging messages (you need to run sshd with > the "-d" flag to debug the server side). Good to know.. But maybe an incoming ssh -vv from a remote would show something? I'll try that in a moment. > Attempting pubkey authentication from another system with the same > key would be one way of ruling that possibility out, because if that > is indeed the problem, then pubkey authentication should fail no > matter which client system you're coming from. It works when I try > it here, so if that's not it, nothing else is jumping out, and > that's frustrating. Ahh I see your thining the same thing. When you first mentioned permissions I went to /root/.ssh and set it all 0600 to see if it helped ... didn't seem to, and ssh -vv from a remote doesn't mention anything about permissions. Looking at an obsd box here, that I haven't mucked around with, I see how permissions are set by ssh. So setting my /root/.ssh as follows: ls -l /root/.ssh -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 4298 Jul 28 23:09 authorized_keys -rw------- 1 root root 4298 Jul 28 23:00 fwobsd -rw------- 1 root root 744 Jul 28 22:58 id_dsa -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 612 Jul 28 22:58 id_dsa.pub -rw------- 1 root root 951 Jul 28 22:58 id_rsa -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 232 Jul 28 22:58 id_rsa.pub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 448 Jul 27 11:18 known_hosts > I'm telling you that running "ssh-agent --list" doesn't indicate >whether or not another copy of ssh-agent is running, because the >ssh-agent program does not recognize a --list flag. Running >"ssh-agent --list" just launches another copy of ssh-agent, a copy >which will go unused. I see... well making no claim here at expertise hehe... I see your much better informed than I am. I was apparently confusing a non existent `ssh-agent --list' with `ssh-add -list'. I'm going to step thru my proceedure here in some detail maybe you'll spot the trouble: On Machine reader and user root ssh-keygen -t dsa ssh-keygen -t rsa (Putting the keys in the normal place and passwording them the same pw.) cd .ssh echo "## machine reader root" >file_to_be_authorized_keys cat *.pub >> file_to_be_authorized_keys scp file_to_be_authorized_keys fwobsd:/root/.ssh root at fwobsd's password: file_to_be_authorized_keys 100% 867 0.9KB/s 00 (and now ssh to that same remote host) ssh fwobsd (now on remote host fwobsd: ssh-keygen -t dsa ssh-keygen -t rsa (again putting stuff in normal place and passwording both) cd .ssh echo "## Machine fwobsd root" >>file_to_be_authorized_keys cat *.pub >> file_to_be_authorized_keys mv file_to_be_authorized_keys authorized_keys # scp authorized_keys reader:/root/.ssh root at reader's password: authorized_keys 100% 1734 1.7KB/s 00:0 Now both machines have each others authorized_keys So starting the agent on Machine reader: (Not sure how much of this is really needed) ssh-agent -s > SSH_AGENT_ENV # . SSH_AGENT_ENV Agent pid 21705 ssh-add (enter passphrase) ssh fwobsd (cool... I get logged in with no password or passphrase prompt) Ok so this is working as expected now to ssh in from remote: (Repeat above proceedure for starting agent on remote fwobsd) Now sshing in works as expected as well. ================================================================== Ok now the kicker On machine reader the above proceedure has been done for user reader and all works as expected. Now starting X from that shell with ssh-agent running, starts kde and any xterms I call up have the ability to ssh seemlessly to user reader on fwobsd due to being invoked from a terminal with ssh-agent running. What prompted my posts here was that a call to root at localhost from xterm in kde got a password prompt instead of the expected seemless login. Whereas in FC2, that didn't happen. Now trying it `ssh -Y root at localhost' and I'll be damned if it doesn't just work as it should. My problem has disappeared. Somehow your prompting me to get more carefull with my reporting and my consequent complete step thru has fixed the problem. Incidently... I decided not to leave the trusted stuff in ssh_config. I guess that is what -Y is for so one can control which incoming ssh requestes are given X11 forwarding. And I never want that remotely. Now we can both call it a day, and many thanks for your persistence even in the face of my rude behavior. From talbotscott at cox.net Thu Jul 29 15:15:56 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:15:56 -0700 Subject: Open Office Org 1.1.2 Message-ID: <1091114156.4924.13.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> All Open Office fails to load/start. From Term: [scott at ip68-7-36-36 scott]$ oocalc Installation of OpenOffice.org 1.1.2 failed: 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/ooo-1.1:/usr/lib/ooo- 1.1/program /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/setup - R:/etc/openoffice/autoresponse.conf -v -nogui > ~ /.openoffice-install- log 2>&1' ran /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/soffice but that resulted: [scott at ip68-7-36-36 scott]$ /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/soffice [scott at ip68-7-36-36 scott]$ /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/setup: line 159: syntax error near unexpected token `else' /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/setup: line 159: ` else' which is: # extend the library search path for libvcl compiled with more widgets sets if [ -n "$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" ] && [ -d "$sd_archive_path/widgets" ] ; then if [ -n "$OOo_WIDGET_SET" ] && [ -f "$sd_archive_path/widgets/$OOo_WIDGET_SET/"libvcl* ] ; then # LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$sd_archive_path/widgets/$OOo_WIDGET_SET: $LD_LIBRARY_PATH" else # LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$sd_archive_path/widgets/default:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" fi fi remove # from the two lines above and OO will work Enjoy! Scott From michal at harddata.com Thu Jul 29 16:10:43 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:10:43 -0600 Subject: vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 Message-ID: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> Accidentally I noticed that 'fam' disappeared (likely) from all mirrors. Last time I looked there was something like http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/SRPMS/fam-2.6.10-11.src.rpm but if you would try to retrieve that you would get "404: Page not found" instead. No recompiled binaries in "development". At least the current nautilus version depends on fam so, unless some deep nautilus rewrite is coming, that vanishing act seem to be a result of some hiccup. Michal From twaugh at redhat.com Thu Jul 29 16:38:57 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:38:57 +0100 Subject: vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040729163857.GY8175@redhat.com> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:10:43AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > At least the current nautilus version depends on fam so, unless > some deep nautilus rewrite is coming, that vanishing act seem > to be a result of some hiccup. Install gamin, fam's replacement. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michal at harddata.com Thu Jul 29 17:24:18 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:24:18 -0600 Subject: vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: <20040729163857.GY8175@redhat.com>; from twaugh@redhat.com on Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 05:38:57PM +0100 References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> <20040729163857.GY8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040729112418.A463@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 05:38:57PM +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > > Install gamin, fam's replacement. Thanks. gamin indeed has fam on both on its "obsoletes" and "provides" list but I would have some difficulties guessing that without help. :-) Any other tips of that sort? Michal From rpa4email at rogers.com Thu Jul 29 18:18:35 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:18:35 -0400 Subject: Open Office Org 1.1.2 In-Reply-To: <1091114156.4924.13.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> References: <1091114156.4924.13.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> Message-ID: <1091125115.5831.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 08:15 -0700, Scott Talbot wrote: > remove # from the two lines above and OO will work Not for me ... I get: /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libvcl645li.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when running ./setup as root There is no such lib that I can find. If I try to run oowriter I get: Installation of OpenOffice.org 1.1.2 failed: 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/ooo-1.1:/usr/lib/ooo- 1.1/program /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/setup - R:/etc/openoffice/autoresponse.conf -v -nogui > ~/.openoffice-install- log 2>&1' (Word wrap ...) 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I get: > > /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared > libraries: libvcl645li.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file > or directory > > when running ./setup as root > > There is no such lib that I can find. > > If I try to run oowriter I get: > > Installation of OpenOffice.org 1.1.2 failed: > 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/ooo-1.1:/usr/lib/ooo- > 1.1/program /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/setup - > R:/etc/openoffice/autoresponse.conf -v -nogui > ~/.openoffice-install- > log 2>&1' > > (Word wrap ...) > > Suggestions anyone? > > Rob. > Not a suggestion really, but that library is located in the following directories on my system: /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/widgets/original/ /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/widgets/gtk/ /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/widgets/kde/ And running "rpm -q --whatprovides" returns openoffice.org-1.1.2-1 for all three occurrences of the file. Changing the setup script as Scott mentioned did fix OpenOffice for me as well. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From talbotscott at cox.net Thu Jul 29 21:08:15 2004 From: talbotscott at cox.net (Scott Talbot) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:08:15 -0700 Subject: Open Office Org 1.1.2 In-Reply-To: <1091125115.5831.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1091114156.4924.13.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> <1091125115.5831.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1091135296.5565.8.camel@ip68-7-36-36.sd.sd.cox.net> On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 14:18 -0400, Robert Couture wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 08:15 -0700, Scott Talbot wrote: > > > remove # from the two lines above and OO will work > > Not for me ... I get: > > /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared > libraries: libvcl645li.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file > or directory > You should not run setup directly as the soffice program sets some variables necessary for setup to run. > when running ./setup as root > > There is no such lib that I can find. > > If I try to run oowriter I get: > > Installation of OpenOffice.org 1.1.2 failed: > 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/ooo-1.1:/usr/lib/ooo- > 1.1/program /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/setup - > R:/etc/openoffice/autoresponse.conf -v -nogui > ~/.openoffice-install- > log 2>&1' > > (Word wrap ...) > > Suggestions anyone? > > Rob. > Scott From TVarveris at wiley.com Thu Jul 29 21:28:50 2004 From: TVarveris at wiley.com (TVarveris at wiley.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:28:50 -0400 Subject: Terri Varveris/P&T/NewYork909/Wiley is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 07/29/2004 and will not return until 08/09/2004. I'm on vacation until August 9th. For immediate assistance, please contact your Project Editor. Otherwise, I will get back to you as soon as possible on the 9th. Thank you!! Terri From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 30 00:56:41 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:56:41 -0400 Subject: vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: <20040729163857.GY8175@redhat.com> References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> <20040729163857.GY8175@redhat.com> Message-ID: <41099CC9.3070905@sbcglobal.net> Tim Waugh wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:10:43AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > >>At least the current nautilus version depends on fam so, unless >>some deep nautilus rewrite is coming, that vanishing act seem >>to be a result of some hiccup. > > > Install gamin, fam's replacement. > > Tim. > */ > After my 7/23/04 upgrade from rawhide, gamin was pulled in. There were some problems with some error messages though. Upgrading gamin-0.0.2-1.i386. warning: setexeccon(user_u:system_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context "user_u:system_r:unconfined_t": Invalid argument Continuing ... warning: setexeccon(user_u:system_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context "user_u:system_r:unconfined_t": Invalid argument Continuing ... Upgrading gamin-devel-0.0.2-1.i386. I guess this is selinux related. Jim -- Time to take stock. Go home with some office supplies. From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 30 01:13:11 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:13:11 -0400 Subject: mtrr and ioctl - will patch help? Message-ID: <4109A0A7.9020402@sbcglobal.net> I was reading up on mtrr and ioctl because of a problem that I have with starting X up when my computer is first booted. Google brought up this post. Subject PATCH: fix bogus ioctl return in mtrr This is fairly self explanatory - ENOIOCTLCMD is an internal code outside of the -1 to -511 range. The correct return for an unknown ioctl is -ENOTTY although some Linux devices return the incorrect -EINVAL result. http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/7/27/242 My trouble seems to be with my video memory taking a long time to set up correctly. Anyway, is there going to be a patched kernel soon to test? Jim -- Your object is to save the world, while still leading a pleasant life. From reader at newsguy.com Fri Jul 30 01:50:50 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:50:50 -0500 Subject: Can fam do this [was] vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: Michal Jaegermann writes: > Accidentally I noticed that 'fam' disappeared (likely) from all > mirrors. Last time I looked there was something like > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development\ > /SRPMS/fam-2.6.10-11.src.rpm > but if you would try to retrieve that you would get "404: Page not > found" instead. No recompiled binaries in "development". > Michal, I butted in here on the hunch that you or some one else might be able to advise me about `fam'. I've never knowingly used `fam' but it looks like something that could report file changes. Only trouble is the docu only says it reports file changes to other apps. Never mentions how one might use it to get a report in a file. Can `fam' do such a thing? If so can you steer me to some howto info that will help me set it up? I'm interested in logging file changes in a given directory. It consisted some 2-3 thousand text files. I'd hoped to script up something using fam to do the checking. From arjanv at redhat.com Fri Jul 30 06:59:48 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:59:48 +0200 Subject: mtrr and ioctl - will patch help? In-Reply-To: <4109A0A7.9020402@sbcglobal.net> References: <4109A0A7.9020402@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1091170781.2794.2.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 03:13, Jim Cornette wrote: > I was reading up on mtrr and ioctl because of a problem that I have with > starting X up when my computer is first booted. Google brought up this post. > Subject PATCH: fix bogus ioctl return in mtrr > > This is fairly self explanatory - ENOIOCTLCMD is an internal code > outside of the -1 to -511 range. The correct return for an unknown ioctl > is -ENOTTY > although some Linux devices return the incorrect -EINVAL result. > > http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/7/27/242 no that patch won't help you, if you get into that path you get an error no matter what, it's just the exact error value that was incorrect. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I chose a straight workstation install and performance >during the >> install process was okay. >> >> After it had finished installing I rebooted the machine and >everything >> was fine until the kernel had decompressed the it came up with >the >> following error: (dmesg) >> >> agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset, but could not find the >> secondary device. >> agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset. >> agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M >> agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf8000000 >> >> Anything obvious spring to mind chaps? >> >> Simon >> >> > >What is the second card that you have setup? I have a system with >an >Intel 815 video card that is working fine. > >With another Dell computer with an Intel 828 656 card (810 driver) >I get >2 hours out of X before the following process die. I thought >rd-bomb was >some 2 hr timer before I found out that it was a screensaver. > >This is an agpgart error also. >[drm:i830_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 131052 wanted 131064 > >Hopefully this problem will be gone for FC3T2. > >Jim Well I don't have a secondary graphics adaptor in it. I tried installing FC2 and that does the same. Install goes fine but on first boot up it runs like a dog. I've just reinstalled FC1 to make sure it's not a hardware problem and thats running sweet. Shame because I was just getting into this whole spacial Nautilus thing :-( Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Fri Jul 30 07:11:56 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:11:56 +0100 Subject: Can fam do this [was] vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1091171516.9551.3.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 20:50 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Michal Jaegermann writes: > > > Accidentally I noticed that 'fam' disappeared (likely) from all > > mirrors. Last time I looked there was something like > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development\ > > /SRPMS/fam-2.6.10-11.src.rpm > > but if you would try to retrieve that you would get "404: Page not > > found" instead. No recompiled binaries in "development". > > > > Michal, > > I butted in here on the hunch that you or some one else might be able > to advise me about `fam'. I've never knowingly used `fam' but it > looks like something that could report file changes. > > Only trouble is the docu only says it reports file changes to other > apps. Never mentions how one might use it to get a report in a file. > > Can `fam' do such a thing? If so can you steer me to some howto info > that will help me set it up? > > I'm interested in logging file changes in a given directory. It > consisted some 2-3 thousand text files. > > I'd hoped to script up something using fam to do the checking. Morning Michal I believe fam primarily looks for new files in directories, updates in file details on the file system, e.g. access time, permissions etc. It then lets programs know. It's more monitoring changes in the file system then changes in the files them selves (or at least that is my impression). I get the feeling your looking more for some thing along the lines of diff, which compares new and old files. Does that sound correct? -- Douglas Furlong Systems Administrator Firebox.com T: 0870 420 4475 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From veillard at redhat.com Fri Jul 30 07:31:43 2004 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:31:43 -0400 Subject: vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: <41099CC9.3070905@sbcglobal.net> References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> <20040729163857.GY8175@redhat.com> <41099CC9.3070905@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040730073143.GD13732@redhat.com> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 08:56:41PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > After my 7/23/04 upgrade from rawhide, gamin was pulled in. There were > some problems with some error messages though. > > Upgrading gamin-0.0.2-1.i386. > warning: setexeccon(user_u:system_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context > "user_u:system_r:unconfined_t": Invalid argument > Continuing ... > warning: setexeccon(user_u:system_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context > "user_u:system_r:unconfined_t": Invalid argument > Continuing ... > Upgrading gamin-devel-0.0.2-1.i386. > > > I guess this is selinux related. yes, but I can't really understand what's it's reporting, Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From veillard at redhat.com Fri Jul 30 07:35:26 2004 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:35:26 -0400 Subject: Can fam do this [was] vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: <1091171516.9551.3.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> <1091171516.9551.3.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: <20040730073525.GE13732@redhat.com> On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 08:11:56AM +0100, Douglas Furlong wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 20:50 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Michal, > > > > I butted in here on the hunch that you or some one else might be able > > to advise me about `fam'. I've never knowingly used `fam' but it > > looks like something that could report file changes. > > > > Only trouble is the docu only says it reports file changes to other > > apps. Never mentions how one might use it to get a report in a file. > > > > Can `fam' do such a thing? If so can you steer me to some howto info > > that will help me set it up? > > > > I'm interested in logging file changes in a given directory. It > > consisted some 2-3 thousand text files. > > > > I'd hoped to script up something using fam to do the checking. > Morning Michal > > I believe fam primarily looks for new files in directories, updates in > file details on the file system, e.g. access time, permissions etc. It > then lets programs know. > > It's more monitoring changes in the file system then changes in the > files them selves (or at least that is my impression). > > I get the feeling your looking more for some thing along the lines of > diff, which compares new and old files. Does that sound correct? The FAM API is about reporting changes, but not how files changed. It is relatively expensive on large directories unfortunately: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124361 I will try to reduce the CPU usage in gamin but we lack kernel support which would make that easy. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri Jul 30 09:23:06 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 05:23:06 -0400 Subject: USB mouse not working with kernel-2.6.7-1.499 Message-ID: <1091179386.8310.2.camel@matrix> Hi, Could someone tell me how to get my USB mouse working again under the 2.6.7-1.499 kernel? My USB mouse on the laptop only works with 2.6.7-1.488 and lower. Thanks, Ernesto -- From reader at newsguy.com Fri Jul 30 10:35:51 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 05:35:51 -0500 Subject: Can fam do this [was] vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: <1091171516.9551.3.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> (Douglas Furlong's message of "Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:11:56 +0100") References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> <1091171516.9551.3.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> Message-ID: Douglas Furlong writes: > It's more monitoring changes in the file system then changes in the > files them selves (or at least that is my impression). > > I get the feeling your looking more for some thing along the lines of > diff, which compares new and old files. Does that sound correct? Yes. I'm thinking of something that reports content of file changes as they happen. This something might employ `diff' I guess. Maybe a homemade daemon that notices changes then runs diff... From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Fri Jul 30 10:40:50 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 06:40:50 -0400 Subject: Cron Errors in Root's Mail Message-ID: <1091184050.21784.69.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> The following is showing up in root's mail box every 10 minutes: Message 1: From root at solaria.ksc.nasa.gov Thu Jul 29 07:00:02 2004 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:00:01 -0400 From: root at solaria.ksc.nasa.gov (Cron Daemon) To: root at solaria.ksc.nasa.gov Subject: Cron root /usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1 X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: /bin/sh: line 1: root: command not found This is apparently from the sysstat job found in /etc/cron.d: # run system activity accounting tool every 10 minutes */10 * * * * root /usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1 # generate a daily summary of process accounting at 23:53 53 23 * * * root /usr/lib/sa/sa2 -A What does the "root" parameter do (or not do)? It looks like crond was updated on 26 July. 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I chose a straight workstation install and performance >during the > >> install process was okay. > >> > >> After it had finished installing I rebooted the machine and >everything > >> was fine until the kernel had decompressed the it came up with >the > >> following error: (dmesg) > >> > >> agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset, but could not find the > >> secondary device. > >> agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset. > >> agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M > >> agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf8000000 > >> > >> Anything obvious spring to mind chaps? > >> > >> Simon > >> > >> > > > >What is the second card that you have setup? I have a system with >an > >Intel 815 video card that is working fine. > > Well I don't have a secondary graphics adaptor in it. I tried installing > FC2 and that does the same. Install goes fine but on first boot up it > runs like a dog. I don't get any errors on this computer related to a secondary adapter. X does start up very slowly though when I first try to start X using runlevel 3 and startx from the terminal. This is with an Intel i815 video card w/ 64 MB video memory also. I get the below excerpt: dmesg Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset. agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 438M agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf8000000 There is no secondary video device message in dmesg. X works fine after it gets up and running for me. It is the first boot that is the only problem here. I've just reinstalled FC1 to make sure it's not a > hardware problem and thats running sweet. Shame because I was just > getting into this whole spacial Nautilus thing :-( The spacial feature is easily overridden. (as desired user using gconf-editor) :-) I like the new (or at least just noiced this feature) "edit > select pattern" feature. I just started using firefox and it downloaded everything to $HOME. I had to move the stuff to a different location. (rpms for multimedia). I like moz because of it prompting for a location instead of just blindly downloading stuff w/o prompting the user for a download location. It did allow me to use the pattern match option though. > > Simon > Jim -- Your object is to save the world, while still leading a pleasant life. From michel.salim at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 12:00:49 2004 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:00:49 +0700 Subject: Can fam do this [was] vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: <20040730073525.GE13732@redhat.com> References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> <1091171516.9551.3.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <20040730073525.GE13732@redhat.com> Message-ID: <883cfe6d04073005001571f201@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:35:26 -0400, Daniel Veillard wrote: > > The FAM API is about reporting changes, but not how files changed. > It is relatively expensive on large directories unfortunately: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124361 > > I will try to reduce the CPU usage in gamin but we lack kernel support > which would make that easy. > On a related note, is there a way to prevent FAM from locking up writable removable media? Sometimes - but not always - when using FAM in conjunction with Nautilus, I get unmount errors and have had to killall -9 fam to proceed. Regards, - Michel From veillard at redhat.com Fri Jul 30 12:05:42 2004 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:05:42 -0400 Subject: Can fam do this [was] vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d04073005001571f201@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> <1091171516.9551.3.camel@douglas-furlong.firebox.com> <20040730073525.GE13732@redhat.com> <883cfe6d04073005001571f201@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040730120542.GM13732@redhat.com> On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 07:00:49PM +0700, Michel Salim wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:35:26 -0400, Daniel Veillard wrote: > > > > The FAM API is about reporting changes, but not how files changed. > > It is relatively expensive on large directories unfortunately: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124361 > > > > I will try to reduce the CPU usage in gamin but we lack kernel support > > which would make that easy. > > > > On a related note, is there a way to prevent FAM from locking up > writable removable media? Sometimes - but not always - when using FAM > in conjunction with Nautilus, I get unmount errors and have had to > killall -9 fam to proceed. Known problem. This is being worked on at various level. I can't promise that gamin will be able to do that, because as long as the dnotify API is used one need to open the directory/file being monitored. Yes this sucks, and unfortunately I don't expect to see any kernel API improvement at this point. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Fri Jul 30 12:08:18 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:08:18 -0400 Subject: vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 In-Reply-To: <41099CC9.3070905@sbcglobal.net> References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> <20040729163857.GY8175@redhat.com> <41099CC9.3070905@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1091189298.21245.18.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 20:56, Jim Cornette wrote: > After my 7/23/04 upgrade from rawhide, gamin was pulled in. There were > some problems with some error messages though. > > Upgrading gamin-0.0.2-1.i386. > warning: setexeccon(user_u:system_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context > "user_u:system_r:unconfined_t": Invalid argument > Continuing ... > warning: setexeccon(user_u:system_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context > "user_u:system_r:unconfined_t": Invalid argument > Continuing ... > Upgrading gamin-devel-0.0.2-1.i386. > > > I guess this is selinux related. What version of policy are you running? Latest is selinux-policy-{strict,targeted}-1.15.10-1, I think. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Fri Jul 30 14:11:26 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:11:26 -0400 Subject: anyone seeing failing cron.* jobs on FC3t1/rawhide? Message-ID: <20040730141126.GA21606@wolves.durham.nc.us> I'm seeing: Jul 30 09:01:01 tembo crond(pam_unix)[19124]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jul 30 09:01:01 tembo crond[19124]: Critical error - immediate abort errors in /var/log/messages with no other errors indicated in /var/log/cron. This is a clean install of the rawhide of 2004-07-29 on an AMD-K6-2 400MHz system. I've made a bugzilla entry against vixie-cron for this but I don't have/remember the bug number. Running the commands from /etc/cron.daily/ "by hand" yeilds no errors, so I suspect it is an environmental setup error. SeLinux is in permissive mode but I don't see any avc's for cron or the commands. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From markmc at redhat.com Fri Jul 30 15:06:27 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:06:27 +0100 Subject: Updating to GNOME 2.7 Message-ID: <1091199986.17538.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hey, Just a heads up - starting soon we're going to be updating FC3 to GNOME 2.7. Its a lot of packages and there are bound to be transient problems but hopefully things won't be too bad. We'll also be going through the process (on fedora-desktop-list) of figuring out which of the new GNOME packages we'll be including in FC3. >From a cursory look, those are: - dasher - evolution-webcal - gnome-keyring-manager - gnome-nettool Appended is the list of packages which need updating. Obviously, more packages will need updating as releases upstream happen. As this is happening, please do test and report any brokenness on fedora-test-list - we'll let you know whether its a simple transient issue or something you should put into bugzilla. Thanks, Mark ORBit2 2.10.0 2.11.1 pango 1.4.0 1.5.1 atk 1.6.0 1.7.2 GConf2 2.6.0 2.7.3.1 gnome-vfs2 2.6.0 2.7.4 audiofile 0.2.5 0.2.6 libgnome 2.6.0 2.7.2 libgnomecanvas 2.6.1.1 2.7.1 libbonoboui 2.6.0 2.6.1 libgnomeui 2.6.0 2.7.2 gail 1.6.0 1.6.6 at-spi 1.4.0 1.5.3 bug-buddy 2.6.1 2.7.0 desktop-file-utils 0.4 0.7 eel2 2.6.0 2.7.3 eog 2.6.1 2.7.0 epiphany 1.2.6 1.3.3 file-roller 2.6.2 2.7.2 gal 0.24 2.1.12 gconf-editor 2.6.0 2.7.4 gdm 2.6.0.3 2.6.0.3 gedit 2.6.1 2.7.1 ggv 2.6.1 2.7.0 gnome-applets 2.6.2.1 2.7.0 gnome-desktop 2.6.0.1 2.7.4 gnome-games 2.6.2 2.7.5 gnome-icon-theme 1.2.0 1.3.5 gnome-keyring 0.2.0 0.3.2 gnome-media 2.6.2 2.7.1 gnome-netstatus 2.6.0.1 2.7.3.1 gnome-panel 2.6.0 2.7.4.1 gnome-session 2.6.0 2.7.4 gnome-speech 0.3.2 0.3.3 gnome-system-monitor 2.6.0 2.7.0 gnome-terminal 2.6.0 2.7.3 gnome-themes 2.6.0 2.7.3 gnome-utils 2.6.2 2.7.0 gnopernicus 0.9.5 0.9.6 gok 0.11.2 0.11.5 gpdf 0.131 2.7.2 gtkhtml 1.1.9 3.1.18 gtksourceview 1.0.0 1.0.1 libgail-gnome 1.0.2 1.0.5 gtkhtml2 2.6.0 2.6.2 libgtop2 2.5.2 2.7.4 librsvg2 2.6.4 2.7.2 libwnck 2.6.0.1 2.6.2.1 nautilus 2.6.0 2.7.2 nautilus-cd-burner 2.6.0 2.7.4 startup-notification 0.6 0.7 vino 2.7.3.1 2.7.4 pygtk 2.2.0 2.3.94 From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Fri Jul 30 16:02:41 2004 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:02:41 -0600 Subject: FC3T1 - Prelink - System Hang every night c 04:30 In-Reply-To: <4103B4DC.9080208@ntlworld.com> References: <4103B4DC.9080208@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20040730160241.GA32595@charlescurley.com> On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 02:25:48PM +0100, richard mullens wrote: > My system (Duron 850) hangs every night at about 04:30. > System doesn't respond to mouse movement, keystroke, Control alt > anything or PING. > > The time in the botton right hand of X display is the same as (or 1 > minute later than) the timestamp of /var/log/prelink. > > (Frozen) top shows "makewhatis" and prelink running recently. > > Last message in /var/log/prelink always (so far):- > "warning /usr/lib/lib???.so??? has undefined non-weak symbols. > > > This problem doesn't affect an other machine I have running FC3T1, and > perhaps, tonight, > now that I have shut the case and added an extra fan, it will go away. > However,I'd be interested > to know the purpose of this nightly activity - and the consequences were > I to inhibit it. Oddly enough, I'm seeing much the same thing om my firewall, a headerless 333MHz PII. However: * I am running FC2. * I do not have prelink installed. * I do have tripwire, which has a daily cron job which is similarly disk intensive. I just did a manual run of tripwire, and at the same time I ran "iptables -L" from another login. The system locked up, same symptoms. I'm not sure when I started seeing this lockup. However, the tripwire job usually mails its results to my desktop. The first of those to not show up is on 15 July. The machine has crashed almost every morning since 23 July. Here is my yum.log from the last two updates prior to 15 July: 06/12/04 11:26:02 Installed: kernel 2.6.6-1.427.i686 06/12/04 11:26:02 Updated: net-tools 1.60-25.1.i386 06/12/04 11:26:02 Updated: xinitrc 3.41-1.noarch 06/12/04 11:26:02 Updated: krb5-libs 1.3.3-7.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Installed: kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3.i686 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-xauth 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-xfs 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-libs 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-twm 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: dhclient 2:3.0.1rc14-1.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-libs-data 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-tools 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: GConf2 2.6.0-7.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-base-fonts 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-font-utils 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: libpng 2:1.2.5-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xinitrc 3.42-1.noarch 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-truetype-fonts 6.7.0-5.i386 07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-xdm 6.7.0-5.i386 07/25/04 09:23:20 Updated: fam 2.6.10-9.FC2.i386 07/25/04 09:23:20 Updated: initscripts 7.55.1-1.i386 07/25/04 09:23:20 Updated: info 4.7-4.i386 One of the updates is a new kernel. I'm going to try running the prior kernel for several days and see what I get. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From notting at redhat.com Fri Jul 30 19:06:14 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:06:14 -0400 Subject: Schedule change proposal Message-ID: <20040730190613.GA3169@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Strawman proposal: move the schedule out one week. This moves all the dates starting with the 25 Aug freeze for test 2. Opinions? Bill From arjanv at redhat.com Fri Jul 30 20:45:39 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:45:39 +0200 Subject: Schedule change proposal In-Reply-To: <20040730190613.GA3169@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040730190613.GA3169@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1091220339.2794.7.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 21:06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Strawman proposal: move the schedule out one week. I would argue 2 weeks, so that we have a 3 week window between test release and freeze; 3 weeks sounds like a minimal-yet-sane distance to get testing done AND get fixes in the next release.... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mullens at ntlworld.com Fri Jul 30 21:05:26 2004 From: mullens at ntlworld.com (richard mullens) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:05:26 +0100 Subject: FC3T1 - Prelink - System Hang every night c 04:30 References: <4103B4DC.9080208@ntlworld.com> <20040730160241.GA32595@charlescurley.com> Message-ID: <410AB816.3080204@ntlworld.com> Charles Curley wrote: >On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 02:25:48PM +0100, richard mullens wrote: > >>My system (Duron 850) hangs every night at about 04:30. >>System doesn't respond to mouse movement, keystroke, Control alt >>anything or PING. >> >>The time in the botton right hand of X display is the same as (or 1 >>minute later than) the timestamp of /var/log/prelink. >> >>(Frozen) top shows "makewhatis" and prelink running recently. >> >>Last message in /var/log/prelink always (so far):- >>"warning /usr/lib/lib???.so??? has undefined non-weak symbols. >> >> >>This problem doesn't affect an other machine I have running FC3T1, and >>perhaps, tonight, >>now that I have shut the case and added an extra fan, it will go away. >>However,I'd be interested >>to know the purpose of this nightly activity - and the consequences were >>I to inhibit it. >> > >Oddly enough, I'm seeing much the same thing om my firewall, a >headerless 333MHz PII. However: > >* I am running FC2. > >* I do not have prelink installed. > >* I do have tripwire, which has a daily cron job which is similarly > disk intensive. > >I just did a manual run of tripwire, and at the same time I ran >"iptables -L" from another login. The system locked up, same symptoms. > >I'm not sure when I started seeing this lockup. However, the tripwire >job usually mails its results to my desktop. The first of those to not >show up is on 15 July. The machine has crashed almost every morning >since 23 July. Here is my yum.log from the last two updates prior >to 15 July: > >06/12/04 11:26:02 Installed: kernel 2.6.6-1.427.i686 >06/12/04 11:26:02 Updated: net-tools 1.60-25.1.i386 >06/12/04 11:26:02 Updated: xinitrc 3.41-1.noarch >06/12/04 11:26:02 Updated: krb5-libs 1.3.3-7.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Installed: kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3.i686 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-xauth 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-xfs 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-libs 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-twm 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: dhclient 2:3.0.1rc14-1.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-libs-data 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-tools 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: GConf2 2.6.0-7.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-base-fonts 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-font-utils 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: libpng 2:1.2.5-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xinitrc 3.42-1.noarch >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-truetype-fonts 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/10/04 10:16:00 Updated: xorg-x11-xdm 6.7.0-5.i386 >07/25/04 09:23:20 Updated: fam 2.6.10-9.FC2.i386 >07/25/04 09:23:20 Updated: initscripts 7.55.1-1.i386 >07/25/04 09:23:20 Updated: info 4.7-4.i386 > >One of the updates is a new kernel. I'm going to try running the prior >kernel for several days and see what I get. > > The problem started when I moved from FC1 to FC3T1. Since blowing away the dust, adding a case fan and closing the case, it hasn't recurred. The first night after doing this maintenance, the system ran with 95% CPU utilisation for about 0.75 hours from 04:02 I was only half awake but I think that the main activity was "makewhatis". Now that makewhatis has run once, successfully, the nightly activity finishes much quicker. Now I leave the system monitor and top running - just in case I get another problem. I turned off the screen saver. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 30 22:50:14 2004 From: fct-cornette at sbcglobal.net (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:50:14 -0400 Subject: vanishing fam-2.6.10-11 -gamin - SELinux messages In-Reply-To: <1091189298.21245.18.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> References: <20040729101043.A31005@mail.harddata.com> <20040729163857.GY8175@redhat.com> <41099CC9.3070905@sbcglobal.net> <1091189298.21245.18.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <410AD0A6.3060303@sbcglobal.net> Stephen Smalley wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 20:56, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>After my 7/23/04 upgrade from rawhide, gamin was pulled in. There were >>some problems with some error messages though. >> >>Upgrading gamin-0.0.2-1.i386. >>warning: setexeccon(user_u:system_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context >>"user_u:system_r:unconfined_t": Invalid argument >>Continuing ... >>warning: setexeccon(user_u:system_r:rpm_script_t) fails from context >>"user_u:system_r:unconfined_t": Invalid argument >>Continuing ... >>Upgrading gamin-devel-0.0.2-1.i386. >> >> >>I guess this is selinux related. > > > What version of policy are you running? Latest is > selinux-policy-{strict,targeted}-1.15.10-1, I think. > The update occured on 7/23 and the mirror was ncsu. I believe this mirror lags others by a day. The rawhide packages were updated just before performing the upgrade. From the upgrade log. here are the versions upgraded. Upgrading selinux-policy-strict-1.15.7-4.noarch. matchpathcon(/etc/selinux/config) failed Invalid argument Upgrading selinux-policy-targeted-1.15.7-4.noarch. Errors on the install related to SELinux were posted in an earlier mailing to the list below. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-July/msg00542.html -- Your object is to save the world, while still leading a pleasant life. From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Fri Jul 30 23:13:29 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:13:29 +0200 Subject: Cron Errors in Root's Mail In-Reply-To: <1091184050.21784.69.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <1091184050.21784.69.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1091229209.12015.24.camel@serendipity.dogma.lan> Am Fr, den 30.07.2004 schrieb Bob Chiodini um 12:40: > The following is showing up in root's mail box every 10 minutes: > /bin/sh: line 1: root: command not found > This is apparently from the sysstat job found in /etc/cron.d: > > # run system activity accounting tool every 10 minutes > */10 * * * * root /usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1 > # generate a daily summary of process accounting at 23:53 > 53 23 * * * root /usr/lib/sa/sa2 -A > > What does the "root" parameter do (or not do)? It looks like crond was > updated on 26 July. It sets that the cronjob is running as user root. > Bob... 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Yes this > sucks, and unfortunately I don't expect to see any kernel API improvement > at this point. Just filed a bug on this 128905 ...but its ontopic for this thread. I ran into this with gamin just now on my test box... gamin is holding the mount points like fam did. But there is a twist... with fam i was able to kill the fam process and then unmount with no obvious harm done. I try to do that with gam_server.. and gnome panel freaks out, and appears to die..i get a whole slew of messages about the panel restarting and applets reloading. And gam_server is back with a new process number and I still cant unmount. I finally tricked gamin to unmount with this commandline: kill -9 15365; umount /mnt/flash ; umount /mnt/flash1 man oh man.. gnome panel really really didnt like that. Not only did i get the standard pop-up windows about panel restarting... but i got half a dozen or so empty dialog windows...empty of all text.. no buttons no text. I didnt even see the panel restart dialog until i closed all the blank windows. But this did unmount the flash mountpoints. Hopefully my experience trying to convince gam_server to let go of the mounts wasn't a design goal. Though i did experience a profound moment of contemplation as i stared at the dialogless dialog boxes. As a modern art piece...it was breath taking. -jef"if i only knew what i could bribe gam_server with, i'd barter with it to give me back my usb devices"spaleta From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Jul 31 11:47:09 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:47:09 +0100 Subject: USB printing Message-ID: <1091274429.6779.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I seem to be having a problem with my USB devices. While ehci loads on boot up, /dev/usb/lp0 is never found -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. 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This is being worked on at various level. I can't promise > > that gamin will be able to do that, because as long as the dnotify API > > is used one need to open the directory/file being monitored. Yes this > > sucks, and unfortunately I don't expect to see any kernel API improvement > > at this point. > > Just filed a bug on this 128905 ...but its ontopic for this thread. > I ran into this with gamin just now on my test box... gamin is holding > the mount points like fam did. But there is a twist... with fam i was > able to kill the fam process and then unmount with no obvious harm > done. I try to do that with gam_server.. and gnome panel freaks out, > and appears to die..i get a whole slew of messages about the panel > restarting and applets reloading. And gam_server is back with a new > process number and I still cant unmount. > > I finally tricked gamin to unmount with this commandline: > kill -9 15365; umount /mnt/flash ; umount /mnt/flash1 > > man oh man.. gnome panel really really didnt like that. Not only did i > get the standard pop-up windows about panel restarting... but i got > half a dozen or so empty dialog windows...empty of all text.. no > buttons no text. I didnt even see the panel restart dialog until i > closed all the blank windows. But this did unmount the flash > mountpoints. Hopefully my experience trying to convince gam_server to > let go of the mounts wasn't a design goal. > Though i did experience a profound moment of contemplation as i stared > at the dialogless dialog boxes. As a modern art piece...it was breath > taking. I pushed fam-0.0.3 onto rawhide today. Could you try it out, rebuild from src.rpm at: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/ This may help a bit, or not ... :-) Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Jul 31 11:51:56 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:51:56 +0100 Subject: USB problems Message-ID: <1091274716.6779.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I seem to be having a problem with my USB system. While ehci is loaded on boot up, /dev/usb/lp0 cannot be found until I remove the existing printer and set it up again. My webcam cannot be found either until I modprobe ohci and the other usb driver. Is there something I should add into /etc/modprobe.conf to ensure both the webcam and the printer works? The printer is important as the wife gives me hell if it doesn't work! 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From dsavage at peaknet.net Sat Jul 31 14:25:55 2004 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:25:55 -0500 Subject: Schedule change proposal In-Reply-To: <1091220339.2794.7.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <20040730190613.GA3169@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1091220339.2794.7.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <1091283954.4358.14.camel@lioness.protogeek.org> On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:45, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 21:06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Strawman proposal: move the schedule out one week. > > I would argue 2 weeks, so that we have a 3 week window between test > release and freeze; 3 weeks sounds like a minimal-yet-sane distance to > get testing done AND get fixes in the next release.... > > ______________________________________________________________________ Bill & Arjan, Do what you think is best, but keep in mind a few of us out here may be turning blue by then. We're waiting on FC3t2 in hope it will be the first installable post-FC1 release for our systems with Adaptec 20xxS Zero Channel RAID cards. I've got a Tyan K7X with a 1.1T array waiting to breathe life. (Bugzilla #123567) --Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 1 kernel 2.4.22-1.2197.nptl on P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Jul 31 14:45:58 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:45:58 +0100 Subject: Missing deps on the latest updates Message-ID: <1091285159.6779.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, libcroco.so.2 is missing and is required for nautilus, gnome-games and gdm, while the dependancy error for php and xine-ui (needs updating for libcurl.so.3) is still there. Any chance of fixing these? TTFN Paul FC3t1, 2.6.7-1.499 kernel -- "Look. 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Do you realize rawhide is now installable, and you can install it any time you want? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From janina at rednote.net Sat Jul 31 16:07:15 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:07:15 -0400 Subject: FC2 Bug: /etc/lynx.cfg is broken Message-ID: <20040731160715.GJ20460@rednote.net> As always, I need someone's help posting a bug report on this as Bugzilla has not yet been made eyes-free accessible ... The default /etc/lynx.cfg contains the following caution: # Please don't edit this file directly (it is updated with every Red Hat # Linux update, overwriting your changes). Instead, edit # /etc/lynx-site.cfg. Unfortunately, editing /etc/lynx-site.cfg does no good, as directives placed there are disallowed, by default, in /etc/lynx.cfg. If one tries, lynx will not run at all. -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 From alan at redhat.com Sat Jul 31 16:09:00 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:09:00 -0400 Subject: FC2 Bug: /etc/lynx.cfg is broken In-Reply-To: <20040731160715.GJ20460@rednote.net> References: <20040731160715.GJ20460@rednote.net> Message-ID: <20040731160900.GA23939@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 12:07:15PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > As always, I need someone's help posting a bug report on this as > Bugzilla has not yet been made eyes-free accessible ... > > The default /etc/lynx.cfg contains the following caution: > > # Please don't edit this file directly (it is updated with every Red Hat > # Linux update, overwriting your changes). Instead, edit > # /etc/lynx-site.cfg. > > Unfortunately, editing /etc/lynx-site.cfg does no good, as directives > placed there are disallowed, by default, in /etc/lynx.cfg. If one tries, > lynx will not run at all. Done From reader at newsguy.com Sat Jul 31 16:22:58 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:22:58 -0500 Subject: nautilus irregularity Message-ID: My setup: *-- Software: Linux kernel 2.6.7-1.494 Architecture i686 Fedora Core release 2.90 (FC3 Test 1) nautilus-2.6.0-6 Hardware: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz cpu MHz : 1994.632 *-- Maybe a bug in nautilus but thought I'd see if others see it first. Setting edit/preferences foler view to list and default resolution or size to %25, results in, when newly starting nautilus, showing %100 view. However setting the default to %50 works as expected. In other words, the %25 setting won't stick as default. Do others see this behavior? From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Jul 31 18:03:38 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:03:38 -0500 Subject: Missing deps on the latest updates In-Reply-To: <1091285159.6779.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1091285159.6779.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200407311303.39061.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 31 July 2004 09:45, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > libcroco.so.2 is missing and is required for nautilus, gnome-games > and gdm, while the dependancy error for php and xine-ui (needs > updating for libcurl.so.3) is still there. > > Any chance of fixing these? > > TTFN > > Paul > > FC3t1, 2.6.7-1.499 kernel I ran into the same dependency problem this morning but just selecting a different mirror for downloading solved the problem. Regards, Mike Klinke From cfzeitler at yahoo.com Sat Jul 31 19:12:37 2004 From: cfzeitler at yahoo.com (charles f. zeitler) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: only one bash prompt? Message-ID: <20040731191237.99282.qmail@web80401.mail.yahoo.com> Message: 11 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:25:27 -0600 From: Michal Jaegermann Subject: Re: only one bash prompt? To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Cc: "charles f. zeitler" Message-ID: <20040725172527.A19867 at mail.harddata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 02:50:35PM -0700, charles f. zeitler wrote: > when i try to open > a second terminal, > or a second term tab, > the bash prompt > never appears. A bit too long for a haiku, but ... Maybe it can be improved. :-) Anything similar to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127048 How about ownership and permissions on /dev/pts ? Michal /dev --- root,755 /dev/* -- current user,640 Message: 9 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:16:40 -0500 From: Harry Putnam A litte more info is needed here for anyone to be helpful. Which OS? fedora core 3, test1 Is it up to date? i have had problems with updates Are you running bash? yup. Which version of bash? 2.05b-42 This happens in X or in console mode or both? x If in X which desktop and terminal gnome gnome term output of `echo $TERM' xterm `echo $SHELL /bin/bash env Contents of .bashrc and .bash_profile # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi # .bash_profile # Get the aliases and functions if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc fi # User specific environment and startup programs PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin export PATH unset USERNAME Fill that stuff in and someone can help you. thanks for the pointers, guys, but this seems to be load related. cfzeitler ===== : Do What Thou Wilt : : Shall Be : : The Whole of The Law : From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sat Jul 31 19:31:36 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 20:31:36 +0100 Subject: Missing deps on the latest updates In-Reply-To: <200407311303.39061.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <1091285159.6779.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200407311303.39061.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <1091302296.11293.0.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > I ran into the same dependency problem this morning but just selecting > a different mirror for downloading solved the problem. Which mirror are you using? TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From lsomike at futzin.com Sat Jul 31 19:38:29 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:38:29 -0500 Subject: Missing deps on the latest updates In-Reply-To: <1091302296.11293.0.camel@T7.linux> References: <1091285159.6779.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200407311303.39061.lsomike@futzin.com> <1091302296.11293.0.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <200407311438.29302.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 31 July 2004 14:31, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > I ran into the same dependency problem this morning but just > > selecting a different mirror for downloading solved the problem. > > Which mirror are you using? > > TTFN > > Paul The first one below gave me the same error you noted: >libcroco.so.2 is missing and is required for nautilus, gnome-games and when I switched to the second I was able to update without error. As a side note, neither gnome-games nor nautilus was updated by the second mirror. As to which mirror is correct I have not investigated. baseurl=ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/development/$basearch baseurl=ftp://fedora.cs.utah.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch Regards, Mike Klinke From balay at fastmail.fm Sat Jul 31 20:25:56 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:25:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Missing deps on the latest updates In-Reply-To: <200407311438.29302.lsomike@futzin.com> References: <1091285159.6779.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200407311303.39061.lsomike@futzin.com> <1091302296.11293.0.camel@T7.linux> <200407311438.29302.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Mike Klinke wrote: > baseurl=ftp://fedora.cs.utah.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch This mirror doesn't have todays rawhide updates. The following worked for me: yum --exclude=libcroco --exclude=dbus* --exclude=desktop-printing* --exclude=librsvg2 upgrade Satish From naheemzaffar at gmail.com Sat Jul 31 20:45:30 2004 From: naheemzaffar at gmail.com (Naheem Zaffar) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:45:30 +0100 Subject: Missing deps on the latest updates In-Reply-To: References: <1091285159.6779.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200407311303.39061.lsomike@futzin.com> <1091302296.11293.0.camel@T7.linux> <200407311438.29302.lsomike@futzin.com> Message-ID: <3adc7721040731134571fc93d5@mail.gmail.com> I just looked into /usr/lib and both libcroco.so.2 and libcurl.2 are shortcuts to newer versions libcroco.so.2.10 libcurl.so.2.0.2 are the latest versions imo. I renamed these to the needed files and still no luck... does yum not check /usr/lib for the files? Any Idea on how to make it? On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:25:56 -0500 (CDT), Satish Balay wrote: > > > On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Mike Klinke wrote: > > > baseurl=ftp://fedora.cs.utah.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch > > This mirror doesn't have todays rawhide updates. > > The following worked for me: > > yum --exclude=libcroco --exclude=dbus* --exclude=desktop-printing* --exclude=librsvg2 upgrade > > Satish > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From janina at rednote.net Sat Jul 31 20:53:46 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:53:46 -0400 Subject: FC2 Bug: /etc/lynx.cfg is broken In-Reply-To: <20040731160900.GA23939@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040731160715.GJ20460@rednote.net> <20040731160900.GA23939@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040731205346.GL20460@rednote.net> Dear Alan: I have much egg on my face. With deepest apologies -- Seems the bug was with the operator who somehow managed to create a self-reference lynx-site.cfg by having an "include lynx-site.cfg" in that file. So, not a bug, and I'm very embarrassed. Very sorry. Of course, I cannot set the disposition, though those screens are actually quite accessible, unlike those for filing. Alan Cox writes: > On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 12:07:15PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > As always, I need someone's help posting a bug report on this as > > Bugzilla has not yet been made eyes-free accessible ... > > > > The default /etc/lynx.cfg contains the following caution: > > > > # Please don't edit this file directly (it is updated with every Red Hat > > # Linux update, overwriting your changes). Instead, edit > > # /etc/lynx-site.cfg. > > > > Unfortunately, editing /etc/lynx-site.cfg does no good, as directives > > placed there are disallowed, by default, in /etc/lynx.cfg. If one tries, > > lynx will not run at all. > > Done > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 From balay at fastmail.fm Sat Jul 31 21:28:56 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:28:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Missing deps on the latest updates In-Reply-To: <3adc7721040731134571fc93d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1091285159.6779.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200407311303.39061.lsomike@futzin.com> <1091302296.11293.0.camel@T7.linux> <200407311438.29302.lsomike@futzin.com> <3adc7721040731134571fc93d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > I just looked into /usr/lib and both libcroco.so.2 and libcurl.2 are > shortcuts to newer versions > > libcroco.so.2.10 libcurl.so.2.0.2 are the latest versions imo. I > renamed these to the needed files and still no luck... does yum not > check /usr/lib for the files? Any Idea on how to make it? Why whould you rename files? ----- Package nautilus needs libcroco.so.2, this is not available. ----- The above message means: There is a newer version of libcroco available - but nautilus - currently depend on the old version of libcroco. Usually such issues are fixed in subsequent rawhide updates - when nautilus gets rebuil with the new libcroco (at which point both can be updated). Remember this is rawhide. Did you try: yum --exclude=libcroco --exclude=dbus* --exclude=desktop-printing* --exclude=librsvg2 upgrade Satish From michal at harddata.com Sat Jul 31 22:05:36 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:05:36 -0600 Subject: what is eating dircolors? Message-ID: <20040731160536.A26962@mail.harddata.com> I failed to notice when precisely this happened but most likely as a side effect of recent updates (and this is not include 'dircolors', i.e. coreutils package which was installed on the box in question on Sat 17 Jul 2004). The gist of the problem is that if you are in X and in terminal window you type 'dircolors --sh', or 'dircolors --sh /etc/DIR_COLORS', or similar then an output is LS_COLORS=''; export LS_COLORS but if you do that on a console then you will get what you expect. I tried 'gnome-terminal' and 'xterm' so this does not seem to be an "improvement" in 'gnome-terminal'. This is actually quite painful because if you do now 'ssh some.other.machine' then you will get the same deal. In /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh you will find a code which says: eval `dircolors --sh "$COLORS"` [ -z "$LS_COLORS" ] && return so these aliases: alias ll='ls -l --color=tty' 2>/dev/null alias l.='ls -d .* --color=tty' 2>/dev/null alias ls='ls --color=tty' 2>/dev/null are never defined so depending on if you logged from an "older" Linux machine and/or from a console or a terminal window you are getting an enviroment which looks and behaves differently. I would hate trying to explain that to my users. I would file a bug but I am not really sure what is really responsible for that "great feature". So far I failed to notice where this may be even documented but something tells me that TERM=gnome may be responsible. If this is really the case then alias dircolors='TERM=xterm \dircolors' all over the place would work around that but this still does nothing to older Linux hosts where you may want to login unless you do that there as well. '[ "$TERM" = gnome ] && export TERM=xterm' seems like a more radical solution. Hm, maybe in an alias for ssh, with a TERM replacement like above, instead. OTOH 'dircolors' documentation does not mention anything that its output may be TERM dependent. Another bug? Michal From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sat Jul 31 22:50:30 2004 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:50:30 -0600 Subject: FC3T1 - Prelink - System Hang every night c 04:30 In-Reply-To: <410AB816.3080204@ntlworld.com> References: <4103B4DC.9080208@ntlworld.com> <20040730160241.GA32595@charlescurley.com> <410AB816.3080204@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20040731225030.GA5175@charlescurley.com> On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 10:05:26PM +0100, richard mullens wrote: > > Charles Curley wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 02:25:48PM +0100, richard mullens wrote: > > My system (Duron 850) hangs every night at about 04:30. > System doesn't respond to mouse movement, keystroke, Control alt > anything or PING. > The time in the botton right hand of X display is the same as (or 1 > minute later than) the timestamp of /var/log/prelink. > (Frozen) top shows "makewhatis" and prelink running recently. > Last message in /var/log/prelink always (so far):- > "warning /usr/lib/lib???.so??? has undefined non-weak symbols. > This problem doesn't affect an other machine I have running FC3T1, and > perhaps, tonight, > now that I have shut the case and added an extra fan, it will go away. > However,I'd be interested > to know the purpose of this nightly activity - and the consequences were > I to inhibit it. For what it does, try "info prelink" or "man prleink". As for the conseqences if you disable it, you will probably see slightly longer loading times, if anything. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: