From alan at redhat.com Sat May 1 00:07:12 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:07:12 -0400 Subject: Three more test boxes, one new set of problems , one old Message-ID: <20040501000712.GA10433@devserv.devel.redhat.com> IBM Thinkpad 600 - updated perfectly. I've not yet checked out all the old desktop problems I was having to see if they are gone but will do so. Installer incorrectly spews warnings about geometry matches still. APM auto suspend stuff doesn't like 2.6 but otherwise is working better RH9, and definitely better than FC1 Cyrix III with 3ware ATA raid. No problems despite those reported by some users. Had to specify mem=512M because the BIOS gets the mtrr data wrong and we don't seem to correct it (thats always been the case). Had to use text mode because vesa driver on P9100 is broken (again old problems). Working as well as 2.4/FC1 Dual Opteron with dell obsidian quad ultra80 raid card. This blows up if there are any volumes on the aacraid, but is fine if the aacraid has no disks. It also blew up because the old disks I reused to avoid the aacraid both had a /boot partition on them which it took offence too, and after I fixed that it offered to upgrade my IA32 distro. I wasn't sure if this was supposed to work so I hit upgrasde. It flashed something up on screen I couldnt read and then exited the installer. If I do a new install this problem doesnt seem to occur Welsh language stuff also looks ok. Initscripts is short the most recent po file fixes, up2date is somewhat messed up (but quite frankly its got critical bugs open since FC1 beta so I don't think anyone cares much). I guess yum needs translating though. From alan at redhat.com Sat May 1 00:12:10 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:12:10 -0400 Subject: Abit RAID 0 not recognized In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040501001210.GA25173@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 11:46:44PM +0000, Rio Baan wrote: > If there was some way of just getting the install to ignore this kind of > onboard RAID, we'd all be better off. There is. You just use the standard Linux kernel drivers. The problem with some of these windows raid systems is that they have terribly top secret ultra hush hush disk layouts for their BIOS implemented software raid. Most of them do this because a) They can then charge vendors extra for "raid 5" b) They want it to be hard to change vendors raid I don't think it matters which distro you try you'll end up in similar states. Thankfully the more enlightened ones seem to be beginning to get the idea. When you want to split such an array between Linux and Windows it ends up a complete PITA. Linux has a raid layout, windows drivers have a seperate secret raid layout and mixing doesn;t work. Alan From gstool at earthlink.net Sat May 1 00:14:57 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:14:57 -0500 Subject: OpenOffice crash when Save As .doc In-Reply-To: References: <200404301417.16742.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <4092EC01.7080300@earthlink.net> Efthym wrote: > When saving .sxw Writer files to Word .doc format, OpenOffice crashes. > Couldn't find this in bugzilla (thanx Jesse). > Using OpenOffice.org-1.1.1-4. > > Here's the link if anybody wants to add something > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122150 > I just tried one, and it worked for me. Gerry Tool From jamesjones01 at mchsi.com Sat May 1 00:32:25 2004 From: jamesjones01 at mchsi.com (James Jones) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:32:25 -0500 Subject: no .img files in image directory on FC2 Test 1 disc 1 In-Reply-To: References: <404A2174.6030300@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <4092F019.6000804@mchsi.com> M A Young wrote: >If you have linux already installed, put the isos on a hard disk, extract >the kernel and initrd from disc 1 and use grub to boot it. > > > It's been a while, but... with the arrival of FC2 Test 3, I did just that, and it worked like the proverbial charm. Thanks. James From Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com Sat May 1 00:42:20 2004 From: Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:42:20 -0700 Subject: Metacity Themes? Message-ID: <4092F26C.4040000@affymetrix.com> That doesn't sound right. According to the Help available from the Themes control panel, the theme should be tarred and gzip'd when you install it. I did try tar -zxf on one and got a directory that the installer didn't know what to do with. Hugh > * /From/: Tommy Eliassen > * /To/: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > * /Subject/: Re: Metacity Themes? > * /Date/: Sat, 01 May 2004 01:47:42 +0200 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Are themes broken in Test 3? I can use the pre-installed themes, > but I can't seem to install any new ones; the list of themes > doesn't get updated. > > Hugh > > > I may be totally off here, but to get themes installed, I first > downloaded the skin (ofcourse..), then I tar -xvzf'it, installed the > .tar file and then installed the .theme file (from the theme dialog). > It seemed to work for me, but I may have been drunk at the time since > it was friday night, and I have saturday off. > > -Tommy- -- Hugh Caley | Unix Systems Administrator | CIS AFFYMETRIX, INC. | 6550 Vallejo St. Ste 100 | Emeryville, CA 94608 Tel: 510-428-8537 | Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com From tchung at fedoranews.org Sat May 1 01:23:23 2004 From: tchung at fedoranews.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:23:23 -0700 Subject: Free FC2T3 DVD for Free Bug Message-ID: <20040501011954.M81634@fedoranews.org> Hello All, To help Fedora Project, we are giving away Fedora Core 2 Test 3 on DVD to first 10 users who's willing to test and file bug in the Bugzilla. For more information, please visit: http://fedoranews.org/bug/ -- Thomas Chung FedoraNEWS.ORG (http://fedoranews.org) "..where you can free your knowledge for your free community!" From w.steenburg at myactv.net Sat May 1 01:28:17 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:28:17 -0400 Subject: FC2T2 - Unknown User error when shutting down via Main Menu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083374897.2688.3.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 16:47, David Kramer wrote: > I get an unknown user error that pops up when I attempt to close down > or log out from my main menu. After I click the error, It then drops > me to my login display where I then have to click shutdown again. I > was thinking this was a common error for FC2T2 but I havent been > successful in finding anything on the net. > > > Thanks, > > David > > ______________________________________________________________________ Hi David, I had the same error when I was running test2. It started happening after a "mandatory" install of SELinux. (I wasn't using it until it became a dependency.) I'm now running a fresh install of test3 with the same hardware and configuration and no longer get that dialog box. I would surmise that this has been *fixed*. Sorry I cant' tell you why or how to fix it, but you're not the only one who has encountered it. I would guess if you do a fresh install of test3 you should see it go away also. Wayne Steenburg From warren at togami.com Sat May 1 01:48:28 2004 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:48:28 -1000 (HST) Subject: OpenOffice crash when Save As .doc In-Reply-To: <4092EC01.7080300@earthlink.net> References: <200404301417.16742.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <4092EC01.7080300@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <52799.68.28.59.102.1083376108.squirrel@68.28.59.102> > Efthym wrote: >> When saving .sxw Writer files to Word .doc format, OpenOffice crashes. >> Couldn't find this in bugzilla (thanx Jesse). >> Using OpenOffice.org-1.1.1-4. >> >> Here's the link if anybody wants to add something >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122150 >> Please either attach the SXW file that causes the crqsh for you to the bug report, or provide a URL to download this file. From bhanks at crackedweasel.org Sat May 1 02:40:03 2004 From: bhanks at crackedweasel.org (Brian Hanks) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:40:03 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 - LVM with RAID1 Failure Message-ID: <1083379203.1698.26.camel@neuf.bhanks.com> Two attempts to install FC2T3 with LVM2 on top of RAID1 have both ended in the same failure. This is the same disk layout that I've used successfully in previous RH9, FC1, and FC2 installations. The boot process dies right after it attempts to enable RAID. The error is: kernel BUG at drivers/block/cfq_iosched.c:404! {trace info} drivers/block/ll_rw_blk.c:1156: spin_lock(drivers/ide/ide.c:02347988) already locked by drivers/block/ll_rw_blk.c/2164 Any thoughts? Thanks, -Brian From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Sat May 1 02:48:48 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:48:48 -0500 Subject: Free FC2T3 DVD for Free Bug In-Reply-To: <20040501011954.M81634@fedoranews.org> References: <20040501011954.M81634@fedoranews.org> Message-ID: <40931010.9000506@austin.rr.com> Thomas Chung wrote: >Hello All, > >To help Fedora Project, we are giving away Fedora Core 2 Test 3 on DVD to >first 10 users who's willing to test and file bug in the Bugzilla. > >For more information, please visit: > >http://fedoranews.org/bug/ > >-- >Thomas Chung >FedoraNEWS.ORG (http://fedoranews.org) >"..where you can free your knowledge for your free community!" > > > > Excellent idea. I will let all those unfortunate enough to not own a broadband connection get on this deal though. Although that DVD sounds mighty tasty :p -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 3 *x86_64* From efthym at gmx.net Sat May 1 02:59:09 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:59:09 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice crash when Save As .doc In-Reply-To: <52799.68.28.59.102.1083376108.squirrel@68.28.59.102> References: <200404301417.16742.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <4092EC01.7080300@earthlink.net> <52799.68.28.59.102.1083376108.squirrel@68.28.59.102> Message-ID: It's not just one file. It happens with all files i tried. Mark suggested to try a different kernel. I will try that later and post the results. On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:48:28 -1000 (HST), Warren Togami wrote: >> Efthym wrote: >>> When saving .sxw Writer files to Word .doc format, OpenOffice crashes. >>> Couldn't find this in bugzilla (thanx Jesse). >>> Using OpenOffice.org-1.1.1-4. >>> >>> Here's the link if anybody wants to add something >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122150 >>> > > Please either attach the SXW file that causes the crqsh for you to the > bug report, or provide a > URL to download this file. > > -- Opera M2 Mail Client on FedoraCore2_Test3 From paul at dishone.st Sat May 1 03:22:25 2004 From: paul at dishone.st (Paul Jakma) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 04:22:25 +0100 (IST) Subject: ARRGH! Metacity is killing me. In-Reply-To: <20040430041143.GA2113@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <20040430041143.GA2113@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Matthew Miller wrote: > The question is: how can I change the window manager Gnome uses to > something a little more _flexible? I've got Window Maker installed, > but then I discovered that the new GNOME apparently has no visible > option for changing window manager. What i did. # cat /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/Window\ Maker\ -\ GNOME #!/bin/bash exec /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession wmaker-gnome # cat /usr/share/apps/switchdesk/Xclients.wmaker-gnome #!/bin/bash # (c) 2000 Red Hat, Inc. export WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/wmaker exec /usr/bin/gnome-session # #some older versions of DM's want sessions scripts here instead # cp /usr/share/apps/switchdesk/Xclients.wmaker-gnome /etc/X11/dm/Sessions/ NB: Stock WindowMaker is not a "GNOME" compliant Window Manager, so gnome-panel wont see window maker desktops (and vice versa i suspect, but i havnt tried) and GNOME apps do strange things with focus if you change windowmaker desktop. (presumably because WindowMaker is broken, because, after all, years of things working or working in a certain way do not matter, they must be borken if GNOME says they are). There are patches to add support, though not for the desktops, I have RPMs of WindowMaker 0.81.0-CVS with GNOME2 and Xft patches under: http://hibernia.jakma.org/~paul/RPMS/ regards, -- Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie paul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A warning: do not ever send email to spam at dishone.st Fortune: Remember, God could only create the world in 6 days because he didn't have an established user base. From maxer1 at xmission.com Sat May 1 03:22:00 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:22:00 -0600 Subject: Free FC2T3 DVD for Free Bug In-Reply-To: <20040501011954.M81634@fedoranews.org> Message-ID: <000e01c42f2b$778ac9a0$0200000a@frank> Actually while this is certainly a great gesture, I'll just submit bugs and burn my own. :) RaXeT Chung quipped: >>To help Fedora Project, we are giving away Fedora Core 2 Test 3 on DVD to >> first 10 users who's willing to test and file bug in the Bugzilla. From masterra at m-ra.net Sat May 1 03:34:54 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:34:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Dell Latitude pp01l Message-ID: Well, the first machine that i attempted a clean FC2T3 install on was an older Dell Latitude pp01l that i have over the weekend, to reinstall windows on, for a co-worker.. i figured i'd toss Fedora on there, and see how it goes. First of all, it's nothing to great.. i thiks it's a 850mhz (though it might be a 750mhz) Pentium III. It's got a 20 gig drive, and 128 megs of ram. And some kidna ati card.. with a prime res of 1024x768. The install went pretty well. No problems in Anaconda.. mouse worked, keyboard worked, display worked fine too. I did note that it didn't auto-eject the cd when it asked for another.. saw someone mention this earlier.. not sure if it's a problem or just a change to the installer. After the install, things started comming undone. I got the weird problem with the graphical boot screen being broken in half and doubled up.. then it would crash and the scree would go all white.. and i'd have to unplug it. I used the trick someone mentioned before.. i booted knoppix and removed all modes except the one tha worked from xorg, and then it booted half-ok.. ended up i had to remove the graphical boot option from the kernel flags in grub.. and then i had to edit the inittab and change it to default to level 3. Oh, and i had to put the display driver on 'vesa'.. it was on some ati driver and that wouldn't work either.. seemed to be what was making it crash and turn white. If i let it boot into init level 3, login, and run gdm, all goes well. Also, oddly, if I log in, then type 'init 5', it seems to start up ok as well. However, if i set the default back to init 5 and reboot, it goes back into the graphical booter and crashes on boot. Other than that, and being very slow (128 megs of ram...), all went well, and nothing seems to be broken.. no xkb errors or anything.. touchpad and erasor-head work great. Tomorrow i install it on my laptop :) From mattdm at mattdm.org Sat May 1 04:30:26 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 00:30:26 -0400 Subject: ARRGH! Metacity is killing me. In-Reply-To: References: <20040430041143.GA2113@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <20040501043026.GA18240@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 04:22:25AM +0100, Paul Jakma wrote: > NB: Stock WindowMaker is not a "GNOME" compliant Window Manager, so > gnome-panel wont see window maker desktops (and vice versa i suspect, Hmmmm. Under RHL 9, with a rebuilt basically-stock Window Maker, there was no problem with this. > certain way do not matter, they must be borken if GNOME says they > are). There are patches to add support, though not for the desktops, > I have RPMs of WindowMaker 0.81.0-CVS with GNOME2 and Xft patches > under: > http://hibernia.jakma.org/~paul/RPMS/ Cool, I'll check that out. (appears to be rpms/RPMS, by the way.) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From jerone2 at yahoo.com Sat May 1 05:04:04 2004 From: jerone2 at yahoo.com (Jerone Young) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Gaim throwing tones of errors Message-ID: <20040501050404.99094.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> Using gaim 0.77-3 and when I check dmesg I see these: gaim[2650] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff8080 error:0 gaim[2651] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff8080 error:0 gaim[2652] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2653] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[2654] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff80c0 error:0 gaim[2856] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff8080 error:0 gaim[2857] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2858] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2859] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[2860] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[2909] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2913] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2914] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2915] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff80c0 error:0 gaim[2973] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff8080 error:0 gaim[2974] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2975] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2976] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[2993] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2994] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2995] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[2996] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[2997] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[2998] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[2999] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3000] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3001] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3002] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3003] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[3004] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3005] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3006] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[3007] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3008] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3009] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3010] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3011] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[3012] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[3034] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3035] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3036] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3037] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3038] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[3039] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff75f0 error:0 gaim[3040] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3041] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 gaim[3042] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 Gaim seems to be working fine, but it is doing something wrong. From pbender at qualcomm.com Sat May 1 05:06:29 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:06:29 -0700 Subject: tomcat and davenport In-Reply-To: <20040430093610.GA3858@redhat.com> References: <40886F60.2000802@qualcomm.com> <20040423130050.GB3457@redhat.com> <40892C6B.7010200@qualcomm.com> <20040430093610.GA3858@redhat.com> Message-ID: <40933055.7060404@qualcomm.com> Gary Benson wrote: > Paul Bender wrote: > >>Gary Benson wrote: >> >>>Try setting ENSURE_WEBAPPS_WRITABLE=yes in /etc/sysconfig/tomcat >>>and restarting tomcat. >> >>Thank you. That enabled the davenport.war file to expand. Now, I >>just need to figure out why running davenport generates the error: >> >>java.io.IOException: An unknown error occurred: >>java.lang.NullPointerException >> at smbdav.Davenport.getServer(java.lang.String) (Unknown Source) >> at smbdav.Davenport.service(javax.servlet.http.HttpServletRequest, >>javax.servlet.http.HttpServletResponse) (Unknown Source) >> at >>javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(javax.servlet.ServletRequest, >>javax.servlet.ServletResponse) (/usr/lib/lib-javax-servlet-2.3.so) >>... > > > NullPointerExceptions are almost always libgcj errors. If you file a > bug telling me how to reproduce the error then I'll look into it for > you. Awesome. Thanks. Let me know if you need additional information. From A1tmblwd at netscape.net Sat May 1 05:13:06 2004 From: A1tmblwd at netscape.net (A1tmblwd at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 01:13:06 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 Shut down / reboot taking much longer to complete Message-ID: <70C8560B.4C85EE99.005FFA64@netscape.net> After upgrading from FC1 to FC2T3 the shuting down / reboot process is taking much longer to complete. The slow down begins when the message "Shutting down system logger" appears. Termiation of the process takes a minute or more. Then each of the following processes, "Shutting down interface eth0", "Shutting down loopback interface", and "Stopping iptables" exhibit similar behavior. Termination of these four processes takes minutes to complete. Whereas in the past it took only seconds. Firewall and iptables are enabled. SELinux is disabled. What is causing the slowdown? What do I need to do to get back the responsiveness of FC1? __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From paul at dishone.st Sat May 1 05:21:26 2004 From: paul at dishone.st (Paul Jakma) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 06:21:26 +0100 (IST) Subject: ARRGH! Metacity is killing me. In-Reply-To: <20040501043026.GA18240@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <20040430041143.GA2113@jadzia.bu.edu> <20040501043026.GA18240@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 May 2004, Matthew Miller wrote: > Hmmmm. Under RHL 9, with a rebuilt basically-stock Window Maker, > there was no problem with this. Hmm.. I dont remember. If it worked fine with GNOME 2.2 (RHL9 was 2.2 wasn't it?), then it must have been GNOME 2.4 which changed things. Certainly, with GNOME 2.4, the gnome-panel desktop switcher and window list no longer function with WindowMaker as WM. Indeed, probably most other WMs other than metacity and sawfish. I dont follow GNOME development, and i'm sure there must be good reasons for changing things, but from a user POV, the lack of backwards compatibility for something as basic as this is a wee bit annoying. > (appears to be rpms/RPMS, by the way.) Ah, oops, yes: http://hibernia.jakma.org/~paul/rpms/RPMS/i386/WindowMaker-0.81.0-1.i386.rpm It's a slow link btw. Also, I believe current WindowMaker CVS has the needed changes now. regards, -- Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie paul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A warning: do not ever send email to spam at dishone.st Fortune: Every word is like an unnecessary stain on silence and nothingness. -- Beckett From tibbs at math.uh.edu Sat May 1 05:23:48 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 01 May 2004 00:23:48 -0500 Subject: autofs confusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To follow up on this, I reported the problem upstream to the autofs developers, received confirmation that this is indeed a bug, and today received a patch which fixes the problem. I've recorded this info in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122162 If it turns out that it's too close to FC2 to get this fixed, I'll gladly offer patched packages to anyone else who hits this bug. - J< From efthym at gmx.net Sat May 1 05:33:43 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 01:33:43 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice crash when Save As .doc In-Reply-To: References: <200404301417.16742.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <4092EC01.7080300@earthlink.net> <52799.68.28.59.102.1083376108.squirrel@68.28.59.102> Message-ID: ------- Additional Comments From efthym at gmx.net 2004-05-01 01:20 -- ----- tried with 2.6.4-1.298 and 2.6.5-1.327 (both stock). Same problem. On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:59:09 -0400, Efthym wrote: > It's not just one file. It happens with all files i tried. > Mark suggested to try a different kernel. I will try that later and post > the results. > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:48:28 -1000 (HST), Warren Togami > wrote: > >>> Efthym wrote: >>>> When saving .sxw Writer files to Word .doc format, OpenOffice crashes. >>>> Couldn't find this in bugzilla (thanx Jesse). >>>> Using OpenOffice.org-1.1.1-4. >>>> >>>> Here's the link if anybody wants to add something >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122150 >>>> >> >> Please either attach the SXW file that causes the crqsh for you to the >> bug report, or provide a >> URL to download this file. >> >> > > > -- Opera M2 Mail Client on FedoraCore2_Test3 From mattdm at mattdm.org Sat May 1 05:54:48 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 01:54:48 -0400 Subject: ARRGH! Metacity is killing me. In-Reply-To: References: <20040430041143.GA2113@jadzia.bu.edu> <20040501043026.GA18240@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <20040501055447.GA20849@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 06:21:26AM +0100, Paul Jakma wrote: > http://hibernia.jakma.org/~paul/rpms/RPMS/i386/WindowMaker-0.81.0-1.i386.rpm > It's a slow link btw. Also, I believe current WindowMaker CVS has the > needed changes now. wget is patient. :) Hmmm. If this is a CVS snapshot, it's maybe best not to number it based on the future version. Otherwise, when the real version does come out, you're stuck in epoch-land..... -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From wperkins at patriot.net Sat May 1 06:52:24 2004 From: wperkins at patriot.net (William Perkins) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 02:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2T3: Cannot install to NCR/Symbios SCSI disks Message-ID: I tested Fedora Core 2 Test 1 when it came out and was able to get it to install, but not without some problems unrelated with the current issue. I have a Pentium III that has the following two SCSI cards (lspci): 0000:00:0b.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c875J (rev 04) Subsystem: Diamond Multimedia Systems FirePort 40 SCSI Controller Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 144, IRQ 11 I/O ports at b800 [size=256] Memory at dd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Memory at dc800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Expansion ROM at [disabled] [size=64K] 0000:00:0c.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c895 (rev 01) Subsystem: Tekram Technology Co.,Ltd. DC-390U2W Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 15 I/O ports at b400 [size=256] Memory at dc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Memory at db800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Expansion ROM at [disabled] [size=64K] When I try to install Fedora Core 2 Test 3, I get the boot prompt and the kernel does load, but it never loads the NCR/Synbios SCSI driver. As a result, it cannot find the CDROM to continue loading the system, and I am sure it cannot the SCSI disks either. Both cards use the NCR53C8XX driver. Neither the SYM53C8XX not the SYM53C8XX_2 drivers appear to work with these cards. I wanted to test the Test 3 release to see how well the 2.6 kernel would work on my system. I have had problems trying to customize a 2.6 kernel. I have been wondering if LVM and ALSA are working correctly with the 2.6 kernel. Bill ---- William M. Perkins E-mail - wmp at grnwood.net The Greenwood UNIX Systems Administration Reston, Virginia (Solaris, Linux, HP-UX) From jerone2 at yahoo.com Sat May 1 07:11:02 2004 From: jerone2 at yahoo.com (Jerone Young) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 00:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OpenOffice crash when Save As .doc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040501071102.19139.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> I just tried it out and everything works fine for me , I'm using FC2 test 3 X86-64. I would suggest a full reinstall (and not upgrade, ideally upgrading is supposed to 100% work, but I have yet to see this). --- Efthym wrote: > > > ------- Additional Comments From efthym at gmx.net > 2004-05-01 01:20 -- > ----- > tried with 2.6.4-1.298 and 2.6.5-1.327 (both stock). > Same problem. > > > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:59:09 -0400, Efthym > wrote: > > > It's not just one file. It happens with all files > i tried. > > Mark suggested to try a different kernel. I will > try that later and post > > the results. > > > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:48:28 -1000 (HST), Warren > Togami > > wrote: > > > >>> Efthym wrote: > >>>> When saving .sxw Writer files to Word .doc > format, OpenOffice crashes. > >>>> Couldn't find this in bugzilla (thanx Jesse). > >>>> Using OpenOffice.org-1.1.1-4. > >>>> > >>>> Here's the link if anybody wants to add > something > >>>> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122150 > >>>> > >> > >> Please either attach the SXW file that causes the > crqsh for you to the > >> bug report, or provide a > >> URL to download this file. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Opera M2 Mail Client on FedoraCore2_Test3 > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From jhilson at columbus.rr.com Sat May 1 07:28:48 2004 From: jhilson at columbus.rr.com (jeff) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 03:28:48 -0400 Subject: Desktop switching tool problem Message-ID: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> I just did a clean install of Test 3, all went well except in this version, I can't get the desktop switching tool from the main menu to work. It just goes off into the weeds and doesn't run. When I run /user/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py, it says there is a syntax problem in line 36. I ran /user/share/applications/switchdesk and, of course, it runs switchdesk-gui.py with the same error. Any ideas? Thanks, Jeff Hilson From MADAMANC at engr.sc.edu Sat May 1 07:29:36 2004 From: MADAMANC at engr.sc.edu (MADAMANCHI, RAJESH KUMAR) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 03:29:36 -0400 Subject: x on VIA/S3G graphics Message-ID: <410C63664EB01F48B6A7EF49132EFC7D257A37@mail1.engr.sc.edu> Hi guys, I just installed fedora core 2 test 3 on my averatec 3225h laptop. When I restart, the rhgb starts normally and in the meanwhile the screen fades away and then stalls with some vertical lines. I rebooted in text mode and started X from command line. It starts GNOME and everything is fine. And if I kill X, the same thing happens again. None of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace/Ctrl-Alt-F1/Ctrl-Alt-Del will work. It totally hung and I have to restart everytime I kill X. I have a VIA/S3G VT8378 Unichrome Graphics card. Anyone with this problem ? Someone HELP! Thanks, Rajesh From si at bananas.hopto.org Sat May 1 09:10:43 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 10:10:43 +0100 Subject: sil3114 In-Reply-To: <20040501032250.CFBD375AE0@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040501032250.CFBD375AE0@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40936993.30101@bananas.hopto.org> Am writing this again as the post has dissopeared. If there is support for the Sil3114 i dont think it has been compiled into the kernel in FC2 T3 as when i boot i get it saying no hard drives found and if i try and specifiy the module to load i can't see sil3114 to choose from? Has anyone else done anything with this? a work around? From MartinRobb at ieee.org Sat May 1 10:11:52 2004 From: MartinRobb at ieee.org (Martin Robb) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 06:11:52 -0400 Subject: FC2 problems with Fujitsu Lifebook C2240 Message-ID: <409377E8.2020509@ieee.org> I just received a Lifebook C2240 to replace my older C series laptop (which was running FC2 nicely). The install of FC2t3 on the C2240 ran flawlessly, including the initial hard disk boot and all the way through final setup. However, on all subsequent boots it dies utterly on the boot (screen goes blank, no response to , etc.). I tried to go into interactive setup to get a better idea of where the problem lies, but the failure is somewhere between the prompt for interactive setup and the start of interactive setup. I tried rolling back to FC2t2 -- same behavior. I tried FH9 and FC1 -- both work very nicely, so it seems isolated to FC2 (perhap a 2.6 kernel problem?). Marty MartinRobb at ieee.org PS: FWIW, here is the dmesg output under FC1 (sorry, rather long): Linux version 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl (bhcompile at daffy.perf.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.2.3 20030422 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-6)) #1 Wed Oct 29 15:42:51 EST 2003 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009e800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009e800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001def0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000001def0000 - 000000001deff000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 000000001deff000 - 000000001df00000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 000000001df00000 - 000000001df80000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000001df80000 - 000000001e000000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000000002df80000 - 000000002e000000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fff00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 479MB LOWMEM available. ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000 On node 0 totalpages: 122752 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 118656 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. ACPI: RSDP (v000 FUJ ) @ 0x000f6880 ACPI: RSDT (v001 FUJ BRIE5 0x01040000 FUJ 0x00001000) @ 0x1defb455 ACPI: FADT (v001 FUJ BRIE5 0x01040000 FUJ 0x00001000) @ 0x1defef64 ACPI: BOOT (v001 FUJ BRIE5 0x01040000 FUJ 0x00001000) @ 0x1defefd8 ACPI: DSDT (v001 FUJ BRIE5 0x01040000 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000 Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi rhgb ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi Initializing CPU#0 Detected 2791.107 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 5570.56 BogoMIPS Memory: 481368k/491008k available (1503k kernel code, 9184k reserved, 1110k data, 136k init, 0k highmem) Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Buffer cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K CPU: L2 cache: 512K Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After generic, caps: bfebf9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Common caps: bfebf9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz stepping 09 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch at atnf.csiro.au) mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel ACPI: Subsystem revision 20031002 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd85e, last bus=3 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) PCI: Using IRQ router ALI [10b9/1533] at 00:07.0 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0c.3 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.2 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.4 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Initializing RT netlink socket apm: BIOS not found. Starting kswapd VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1 pty: 2048 Unix98 ptys configured Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS3 at 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:03.0 Redundant entry in serial pci_table. Please send the output of lspci -vv, this message (10b9,5457,10cf,1130) and the manufacturer and name of serial board or modem board to serial-pci-info at lists.sourceforge.net. register_serial(): autoconfig failed Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e NET4: Frame Diverter 0.46 RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ALI15X3: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:0f.0 ALI15X3: chipset revision 196 ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1c00-0x1c07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1c08-0x1c0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio hda: TOSHIBA MK6021GAS, ATA DISK drive blk: queue c040cfc0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) hdc: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R6012, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area => 1 hda: 117210240 sectors (60012 MB), CHS=7296/255/63, UDMA(100) Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 > ide: late registration of driver. md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. Initializing Cryptographic API NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 32Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 65536) Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 Freeing initrd memory: 160k freed VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). Journalled Block Device driver loaded kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Freeing unused kernel memory: 136k freed mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs usb.c: registered new driver hub PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:13.0 usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xde858000, IRQ 11 usb-ohci.c: usb-00:13.0, NEC Corporation USB usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:13.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:12.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:05.0 usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xde85a000, IRQ 11 usb-ohci.c: usb-00:13.1, NEC Corporation USB (#2) usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:13.2 ehci_hcd 00:13.2: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 ehci_hcd 00:13.2: irq 11, pci mem de862400 usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 ehci_hcd 00:13.2: USB 2.0 enabled, EHCI 1.00, driver 2003-Jun-19/2.4 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 4 ports detected usb.c: registered new driver hiddev usb.c: registered new driver hid hid-core.c: v1.8.1 Andreas Gal, Vojtech Pavlik hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,6), internal journal Adding Swap: 2096440k swap-space (priority -1) kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,8), internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. ohci1394: $Rev: 1010 $ Ben Collins PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0e.0 ohci1394_0: Unexpected PCI resource length of 1000! ohci1394_0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[11] MMIO=[dc013000-dc0137ff] Max Packet=[2048] ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[00000e1002408d29] SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 hdc: attached ide-scsi driver. scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices Vendor: TOSHIBA Model: DVD-ROM SD-R6012 Rev: 1F34 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 IA-32 Microcode Update Driver: v1.11 microcode: CPU0 no microcode found! (sig=f29, pflags=4) parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 inserting floppy driver for 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.26 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:11.0 divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xdea21000, 00:0b:5d:2b:2f:d8, IRQ 11 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' divert: freeing divert_blk for eth0 ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.26 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:11.0 divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xdea21000, 00:0b:5d:2b:2f:d8, IRQ 11 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0c.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.3 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.4 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.2 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0c.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.3 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.4 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.2 PCI: Enabling device 00:0c.3 (0080 -> 0082) PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0c.3 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.4 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.2 PCI: Enabling device 00:0c.4 (0080 -> 0082) PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0c.4 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.3 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.2 Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11 Socket status: 30000006 Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11 Socket status: 30000006 Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11 Socket status: 30000006 Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11 Socket status: 30000006 cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x408-0x40f 0x480-0x48f 0x4d0-0x4d7 cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team ip_conntrack version 2.1 (3836 buckets, 30688 max) - 292 bytes per conntrack usb.c: registered new driver serial usbserial.c: USB Serial support registered for Generic usbserial.c: USB Serial Driver core v1.4 visor.c: Untested USB device specified at time of module insertion visor.c: Warning: This is not guaranteed to work visor.c: Using a newer kernel is preferred to this method visor.c: Adding Palm OS protocol 4.x support for unknown device: 0x54c/0x95 usbserial.c: USB Serial support registered for user specified device with Palm 4.x protocols usbserial.c: USB Serial support registered for Handspring Visor / Treo / Palm 4.0 / Clie 4.x usbserial.c: USB Serial support registered for Sony Clie 3.5 visor.c: USB HandSpring Visor, Palm m50x, Treo, Sony Clie driver v1.7 mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available mtrr: no more MTRRs available Trident 4DWave/SiS 7018/ALi 5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version 0.14.10h, 15:50:43 Oct 29 2003 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:04.0 trident: ALi Audio Accelerator found at IO 0x1400, IRQ 11 ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7666 (SigmaTel STAC9750T) ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: (Unknown) PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:04.0 gameport0: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device at pci00:04.0 speed 2593 kHz i8253 count too high! resetting.. From mark at harddata.com Sat May 1 11:34:26 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 05:34:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: sil3114 In-Reply-To: <40936993.30101@bananas.hopto.org> References: <20040501032250.CFBD375AE0@hormel.redhat.com> <40936993.30101@bananas.hopto.org> Message-ID: <63691.68.151.39.198.1083411266.squirrel@www.harddata.com> > Am writing this again as the post has dissopeared. > > If there is support for the Sil3114 i dont think it has been compiled > into the kernel in FC2 T3 as when i boot i get it saying no hard drives > found and if i try and specifiy the module to load i can't see sil3114 > to choose from? > It was in test 2. I don't know why they would take it out. The module is called sata_sil not sil3114. From maestronn at wowway.com Sat May 1 11:35:04 2004 From: maestronn at wowway.com (D James) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 07:35:04 -0400 Subject: alsa mute In-Reply-To: <1083357072.1983.6.camel@Aristotle> References: <1083275387.8077.2.camel@simba.lion> <40917E24.7080201@earthlink.net> <200404291843.39169.jent@spicylemons.com> <4091AE07.3040503@earthlink.net> <1083329815.2360.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040430153042.00a80027.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1083342163.2074.6.camel@Aristotle> <20040430194053.34977f61.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1083347998.2346.6.camel@Aristotle> <1083357072.1983.6.camel@Aristotle> Message-ID: <40938B68.6000608@wowway.com> Alexander Kirillov wrote: Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: MC'97 1 converters and GPIO not ready (0xff00) >Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured >49596 usecs >Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000 >Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command >for sound_slot_1 >Apr 30 16:18:28 Aristotle last message repeated 2 times >Apr 30 16:22:01 Aristotle modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command >for sound_slot_1 > >Still can't understand why modprobe fails, though > > >OK, seems that these lines in sys log explain why: > > I get the same message in sys log, however my sound does get restored upon startup. My modprobe.conf file look like: alias eth0 sis900 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias usb-controller ohci-hcd Perhaps something need fixing in modprobe.conf.dist. Has anyone added this to bugzilla? From conrad at lewscanon.com Sat May 1 13:32:38 2004 From: conrad at lewscanon.com (Lewis Bloch) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 09:32:38 -0400 Subject: NVIDIA grpahics driver Message-ID: <1083418358.1761.5.camel@seraglio> I downloaded the NVIDIA graphics driver (source) for Linux and built it for 2.6.1-1.65. Everything was wonderful, until I updated the kernel. No further build worked - that is, I cannot bring up X Windows in any later kernel, despite having rebuilt the NVIDIA driver for each later version. Fortunately, I am able to return to 2.6.1-1.65 and all is hunky-dory. How can I use the NVIDIA driver successfully in later kernels? -- -Lew Bloch "I knew I shoulda toined left at Albequoique!" - Bugs Bunny From fedora at warmcat.com Sat May 1 13:32:18 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 14:32:18 +0100 Subject: NVIDIA grpahics driver In-Reply-To: <1083418358.1761.5.camel@seraglio> References: <1083418358.1761.5.camel@seraglio> Message-ID: <200405011432.23035.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 01 May 2004 14:32, Lewis Bloch wrote: > How can I use the NVIDIA driver successfully in later kernels? You have to wait for nVidia to catch up, as detailed in the list archives. Or you can do what I did, which is switch to the opensource nv driver instead, it works "quite well" with xorg, and has xv (although this is prone to locking the machine from time to time). No 3D.... but then, if you wanted it for games, here is an opportunity to claw back a significant fraction of your lifespan :-) - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAk6bmjKeDCxMJCTIRAi2bAJ0RnLaeE+6RcB6jN0/LgSRTremJHACeOQ2s PzeSo/Qb1FSJI9qj4eIDPTE= =4Dpj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alexl at stofanet.dk Sat May 1 13:35:49 2004 From: alexl at stofanet.dk (Alex Thomsen Leth) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 15:35:49 +0200 Subject: NVIDIA grpahics driver In-Reply-To: <1083418358.1761.5.camel@seraglio> References: <1083418358.1761.5.camel@seraglio> Message-ID: <1083418549.15282.0.camel@simba.lion> yoou have to rebuild the nvidia driver for your new kernels. remember to get the new kernel-source too l?r, 2004-05-01 kl. 15:32 skrev Lewis Bloch: > I downloaded the NVIDIA graphics driver (source) for Linux and built it > for 2.6.1-1.65. Everything was wonderful, until I updated the kernel. > No further build worked - that is, I cannot bring up X Windows in any > later kernel, despite having rebuilt the NVIDIA driver for each later > version. Fortunately, I am able to return to 2.6.1-1.65 and all is > hunky-dory. > > How can I use the NVIDIA driver successfully in later kernels? > > -- > -Lew Bloch > "I knew I shoulda toined left at Albequoique!" - Bugs Bunny > From kirillov at math.sunysb.edu Sat May 1 13:49:52 2004 From: kirillov at math.sunysb.edu (Alexander Kirillov) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 09:49:52 -0400 Subject: alsa mute In-Reply-To: <40938B68.6000608@wowway.com> References: <1083275387.8077.2.camel@simba.lion> <40917E24.7080201@earthlink.net> <200404291843.39169.jent@spicylemons.com> <4091AE07.3040503@earthlink.net> <1083329815.2360.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040430153042.00a80027.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1083342163.2074.6.camel@Aristotle> <20040430194053.34977f61.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1083347998.2346.6.camel@Aristotle> <1083357072.1983.6.camel@Aristotle> <40938B68.6000608@wowway.com> Message-ID: <1083419392.2332.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 07:35, D James wrote: [snip] > Perhaps something need fixing in modprobe.conf.dist. Has anyone added > this to bugzilla? > Not yet. From dunlapg at umich.edu Sat May 1 14:23:01 2004 From: dunlapg at umich.edu (George Washington Dunlap III) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 10:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Hypertreading faster myth or truth? In-Reply-To: <1083340908.14623.22.camel@nfsserver_eth1.dicec.cl> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: > Intel says that a cpu with HT turned on is faster, but is that true for > Linux? and for FC2 as well?, I have seen some @intel.com posts so a > Intel Inside view could be very interesing. It probably would be interesting, but I'd think an Intel employee would be the last person to post something like that to a public list, unless it had been vetted by PR first. :-) I did some benchmarks on a kernel build awhile back, and "make -j4 bzImage" was about 20% faster with HT turned on; I believe this was a linux 2.4.18 kernel. -George -- +-------------------+---------------------------------------- | dunlapg at umich.edu | http://www-personal.umich.edu/~dunlapg +-------------------+---------------------------------------- | "An empty life of luxury is still an empty life" | -- everybodyduck, "Walk the Plank" +------------------------------------------------------------ | Outlaw Junk Email! Support HR 1748 (www.cauce.org) From alan at redhat.com Sat May 1 14:28:58 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 10:28:58 -0400 Subject: x on VIA/S3G graphics In-Reply-To: <410C63664EB01F48B6A7EF49132EFC7D257A37@mail1.engr.sc.edu> References: <410C63664EB01F48B6A7EF49132EFC7D257A37@mail1.engr.sc.edu> Message-ID: <20040501142858.GB29361@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 03:29:36AM -0400, MADAMANCHI, RAJESH KUMAR wrote: > I just installed fedora core 2 test 3 on my averatec 3225h laptop. When I restart, the rhgb starts normally and in the meanwhile the screen fades away and then stalls with some vertical lines. I rebooted in text mode and started X from command line. It starts GNOME and everything is fine. And if I kill X, the same thing happens again. None of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace/Ctrl-Alt-F1/Ctrl-Alt-Del will work. It totally hung and I have to restart everytime I kill X. I have a VIA/S3G VT8378 Unichrome Graphics card. Anyone with this problem ? You need the X driver from unichrome.sf.net, and possibly the kernel patches too if you want to use Xvmc/3D. X.org includes an out of date driver From gstool at earthlink.net Sat May 1 14:30:28 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 09:30:28 -0500 Subject: Desktop switching tool problem In-Reply-To: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> References: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <4093B484.4040105@earthlink.net> jeff wrote: > I just did a clean install of Test 3, all went well except in this > version, I can't get the desktop switching tool from the main menu to > work. It just goes off into the weeds and doesn't run. When I run > /user/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py, it says there is a syntax > problem in line 36. I ran /user/share/applications/switchdesk and, of > course, it runs switchdesk-gui.py with the same error. Any ideas? > Thanks, > Jeff Hilson > > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121840 Gerry tool From w.steenburg at myactv.net Sat May 1 14:59:36 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 10:59:36 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 Shut down / reboot taking much longer to complete In-Reply-To: <70C8560B.4C85EE99.005FFA64@netscape.net> References: <70C8560B.4C85EE99.005FFA64@netscape.net> Message-ID: <1083423576.2260.2.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 01:13, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: > After upgrading from FC1 to FC2T3 the shuting down / reboot process is taking much longer to complete. The slow down begins when the message "Shutting down system logger" appears. Termiation of the process takes a minute or more. Then each of the following processes, "Shutting down interface eth0", "Shutting down loopback interface", and "Stopping iptables" exhibit similar behavior. Termination of these four processes takes minutes to complete. Whereas in the past it took only seconds. > > Firewall and iptables are enabled. SELinux is disabled. > > What is causing the slowdown? What do I need to do to get back the responsiveness of FC1? > If your /home directory is on a separate partition or you have the diskspace necessary to backup your data, I would try a fresh install instead of an upgrade. From jmp at tarantella.com Sat May 1 16:24:29 2004 From: jmp at tarantella.com (John Pullan) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 17:24:29 +0100 Subject: FCT3 - Hangs when installing from CD In-Reply-To: <200404300928.36811.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <1089.192.168.1.1.1083297374.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <200404300756.10308.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1083340191.1737.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200404300928.36811.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <1083428669.1744.5.camel@limiting.wireless.culture.local> On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 17:28, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Friday 30 April 2004 08:49, John Pullan wrote: > > Does anyone know why ? Given that it worked like a charm on test2 ? > > Has the installer kernel been updated as well as the installed kernel > > ? > > Yes, installer kernel is updated. The installer kernel matches (version > wise) the installed kernel. So after a bit more experimenting, I ended up install the packages by hand. What I discovered was that the installed UP kernel fails to boot, but the SMP (hyperthreading P4 3Ghz) variant works. I guess this might be a clue, but I'm not sure to what :-) -- John Pullan From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Sat May 1 16:58:59 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 12:58:59 -0400 Subject: development (rawhide) archives messed up? Message-ID: <20040501165859.GA18441@wolves.durham.nc.us> Did redhat mess up the development(rawhide) archives for FC2t3? My latest rsync removed the headers and found a "buildinstall.dir" This is with two different mirrors. Is it just a time artifact? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sat May 1 17:03:47 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 10:03:47 -0700 Subject: FCT3 - Hangs when installing from CD In-Reply-To: <1083428669.1744.5.camel@limiting.wireless.culture.local> References: <1089.192.168.1.1.1083297374.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <200404300928.36811.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1083428669.1744.5.camel@limiting.wireless.culture.local> Message-ID: <200405011003.47772.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 01 May 2004 09:24, John Pullan wrote: > So after a bit more experimenting, I ended up install the packages by > hand. What I discovered was that the installed UP kernel fails to boot, > but the SMP (hyperthreading P4 3Ghz) variant works. > > I guess this might be a clue, but I'm not sure to what :-) Ah! Try disabling hyperthreading in the bios when you boot the install CD. I'll try when I get to work. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAk9hz4v2HLvE71NURAi/4AJ9DVZ+nXY9DhlIpiNE/28A8HsIijgCgwRx5 sqExLVaF3m6OiFxjmsVfkTI= =/xWS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From si at bananas.hopto.org Sat May 1 17:09:00 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 18:09:00 +0100 Subject: sata_sil - sil3114 In-Reply-To: <20040501160012.6F4F974BBE@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040501160012.6F4F974BBE@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4093D9AC.8000103@bananas.hopto.org> I think am missing the whole thing here.!!! I have downloaded and wrote the 4 iso's to cd, booted cd it says no hard drives found i then say yes to loading a module and look though the list and it is not there, no silicon image support at all. I did alt + f2 to go in to a sheel and have tried modprobe sata_sil and insmod sata_sil they dont fail they seem to look as if they are loading but when i do lsmod the sata_sil is not listed.. can anyone help me? what am i doing wrong here? From robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl Sat May 1 17:13:42 2004 From: robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl (Rob van Nieuwkerk) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:13:42 +0200 Subject: development (rawhide) archives messed up? In-Reply-To: <20040501165859.GA18441@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040501165859.GA18441@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <20040501191342.55f8eebb.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> On Sat, 1 May 2004 12:58:59 -0400 Gregory Woodbury wrote: Hi Gregory, > Did redhat mess up the development(rawhide) archives for FC2t3? > > My latest rsync removed the headers and found a "buildinstall.dir" > > This is with two different mirrors. Is it just a time artifact? It is a problem on Red Hat's master servers so it will propagate to all mirrors .. I already informed them, but no reaction yet. No idea when things will be fixed. greetings, Rob van Nieuwkerk (mirror maintainer) From jmp at tarantella.com Sat May 1 17:32:04 2004 From: jmp at tarantella.com (John Pullan) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 18:32:04 +0100 Subject: FCT3 - Hangs when installing from CD In-Reply-To: <200405011003.47772.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <1089.192.168.1.1.1083297374.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <200404300928.36811.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1083428669.1744.5.camel@limiting.wireless.culture.local> <200405011003.47772.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <1083432724.3153.1.camel@killingtime.culture.local> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 18:03, Jesse Keating wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 01 May 2004 09:24, John Pullan wrote: > > So after a bit more experimenting, I ended up install the packages by > > hand. What I discovered was that the installed UP kernel fails to boot, > > but the SMP (hyperthreading P4 3Ghz) variant works. > > > > I guess this might be a clue, but I'm not sure to what :-) > > Ah! Try disabling hyperthreading in the bios when you boot the install CD. > I'll try when I get to work. Nope, I'm afraid that didn't help either the install or the installed UP kernel. -- John Pullan From bstretch at mindspring.com Sat May 1 18:02:24 2004 From: bstretch at mindspring.com (Brian Stretch) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 14:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: NVIDIA grpahics driver Message-ID: <9523072.1083434544403.JavaMail.root@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> > How can I use the NVIDIA driver successfully in later kernels? Go here: http://www.minion.de/nvidia.html If you're running 32-bit, you'll need to recompile your kernel to get rid of the 4K stacks patch and the Use Register Arguments (REGPARM) option. Compiling a vanilla 2.6.6rc2 with Fedora's .config as a starting point worked for me. If you're running 64-bit, no kernel recompile is needed. In both cases you'll need to add this line to /etc/modprobe.conf: alias char-major-195 nvidia If you want to play UT2004 you'll want the patch listed here: https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1413 (search for .bz2) Until the official patch is available. With it, UT2004 is solid on my Athlon 64 desktop with GeForceFX 5700 Ultra. From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat May 1 18:27:51 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 13:27:51 -0500 Subject: VIA Apollo Pro266 (Pentium III) Message-ID: <200405011327.51325.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> VIA Apollo Pro266 Setup Issue's: FC Test 3 will install and reboot however these issue's will occur: o Ethernet will not start o Playing a test sound with PCI Sound Card will hang the system If you do not play a test sound, you can boot to a desktop To fix these issue's you will have to set ACPI=OFF as a kernel parameter. Then you will have to remove the nic card in setup and re-install it to get a working network. Byte From anand at cise.ufl.edu Sat May 1 18:33:01 2004 From: anand at cise.ufl.edu (Anand Rangarajan) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 14:33:01 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 3 on an IBM Thinkpad 600x Message-ID: <4093ED5D.1080304@cise.ufl.edu> Quick impressions of installing and running Fedora Core 2 Test 3 (FC2t3) on an IBM Thinkpad 600x (2645-5FU) Hardware: Pentium III 650MHz (SpeedStep reduces speed to 500MHz when operating on batteries) Graphics: Neomagic 256ZX Display: 13.3 TFT Installation of FC2t3 went fairly smoothly. For some reason, it complained that my partition table (generated by a previous redhat 9 installation which I wiped out in the course of installing FC2t3) was inconsistent and that I would have problems booting. Recommended that I make a bootdisk. However, I was never again prompted to make a bootdisk later on in the installation. (Also, I read somewhere that the 2.6 kernel is too large for a boot floppy so perhaps this should be fixed.) I picked a 1024x768 generic LCD display but for some reason, the display configurator chose a 800x600 24 bit resolution. Perhaps it detected 2.5MB of video memory and automatically picked the 800x600 resolution? Redhat 9 allowed me to run 1024x768 at 24bpp. When I installed FC2t3, I did not have any network card in the machine. (More on this later.) Since I prefer KDE to GNOME, after installation, I logged in to my KDE desktop. FC2t3 had no trouble with my previous KDE 3.2 settings which were already present on my /home partition with one exception. Autorun started running immediately and tried to find a non-existent CD. When I tried to add/remove packages using the GUI, I ran into a problem. KDE (or is it the installer?) mounted the FC2t3 CD 1 and brought up the contents in a Konqueror filemanager window which is very distracting since I was in the middle of choosing packages to install. Later when the add/remove package GUI asked me to remove CD1 and insert CD2, I could not eject CD1 since it was mounted. I had to unmount the CD, then eject it and insert CD2. This should be fixed. Since FC2t3 is GNOME centric, I expected KDE to be fairly broken and it was. There was no JuK (which I was looking forward to). Perhaps this is because MP3 support is disabled? I rebooted and inserted a CISCO Aironet-based 80211b card. While the card was recognized, I could not get network connectivity. However, I did not try hard enough. I rebooted once again and inserted a Compaq WL110 card (orinoco-cs driver). This was also recognized and this time I didn't have to do anything since the network was set up automagically after booting. I keep seeing Connected, Disconnected toggling messages when I do dmesg but so far it seems to be working all right. Previously (when the machine was running redhat 9) the orinoco-cs 0.13e driver would freeze the machine solid but this seems to be fixed. Downloaded a 75MB file without any problems or lockups. When I rebooted for the second time, it said that it had to do some recovery of my / ext3 partition and later on mentioned that it had cleaned up some inodes. WTF is that? AFAIK, I had cleanly rebooted. This should not have happened. up2date does not work. Could not connect to the (somewhat local) duke mirror. Perhaps yum.conf has to be fixed. When I ran yum update from the command line, it took a while but updated everything. Got tons of selinux error messages. Tried to install apt-0.5 from the FC testing directory on apt.freshrpms.net. Complained about a missing signature and generated tons of selinux-based errors which still show up when I do dmesg. I then disabled selinux in the security settings. When FC2 boots up, it brings up a console localhost login prompt for a few seconds and just when I try to type in my name, the display manager comes up. Somewhat disconcerting. Have not checked suspend/resume functions. Unfortunately, since I prefer KDE and want my multimeda to work out of the box, I think I'll try SUSE 9.1 when it comes out. FC2 is not bad but seems too developer- and GNOME-centric for me. Anand From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Sat May 1 18:36:20 2004 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 11:36:20 -0700 Subject: procps 3.2 In-Reply-To: <20040428212738.GA19313@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083096347.15959.0.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040427202518.GA1563@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083167112.24729.3.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040428212738.GA19313@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083436580.11564.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> I went ahead and bugzilled(now it's a verb?) this issue. I am also going to notify the folks at procps about this and see what they think. On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 14:27, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 08:45:12AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > It seems that the "procps" folks http://procps.sourceforge.net would be > > the folks to ask for assistance. Is this who you would like to see a > > "RFE"(I can only assume this is an Request for Enhancement) issued to? > > Or is this a RedHat method of implementing feature requests? > > Stick a bug in Red Hat bugzilla because its loss of real functionality. > You might want to mention it to the procps folks too as they may not be > aware the other fork had this feature -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 From lorenzo_fiorini at tin.it Sat May 1 18:44:17 2004 From: lorenzo_fiorini at tin.it (Lorenzo Fiorini) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 20:44:17 +0200 Subject: FC2T3 problems with S3Trio3D and Sis315 Message-ID: <4093F001.6000405@tin.it> I've tried Fc2T3 on two PC: an old IBM PC300 with S3Trio3D and a PC Asus A7V8x with Sis315. They both had FC1 installed and working perfectly. On both I had to reboot in text mode and use startx to start Gnome. On S3Trio3d the screen gets black while with Sis315 I get fancy colors lines and spots. The symptoms are much like "x on VIA/S3G graphics". regards, Lorenzo From hobbit at aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat May 1 19:06:15 2004 From: hobbit at aloss.ukuu.org.uk (Telsa Gwynne) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 20:06:15 +0100 Subject: Successful install of FC2t3 on dual athlon Message-ID: <20040501190615.GA15573@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Long-term readers of my install adventures will be shocked. Beautiful happy successful (so far :)) install of Fedora Core test 3 on a dual athlon with 512Mb RAM, 2x120Gb discs and Radeon 9000+. Told it to do RAID, too, and it did. Ran both text and graphic installs, in Welsh just to see what happens. Firstboot all worked (it picked the wrong resolution for the monitor, but the right one was in the list of options so no problems). 3d acceleration on the radeon worked (now I feel seasick from Tuxracer at speed). Will bugzilla some cosmetic trivia later, but everything I have searched bugzilla for has already been reported. Telsa From greg at gulik.org Sat May 1 19:28:22 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 14:28:22 -0500 Subject: ogle won't play DVDs Message-ID: <4093FA56.9070201@gulik.org> I'm trying to get ogle to play DVDs on FC2t3 on a Dell 8100 with an NVIDIA video card using the nv driver. When I try to play a DVD I get teh following: . . WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost Sync at offset: 6136 bytes WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost sync, resyncing demux: unknown stream_id: 0xf0 WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost Sync at offset: 10232 bytes WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost sync, resyncing demux: unknown stream_id: 0xf0 WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost Sync at offset: 92152 bytes WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost sync, resyncing demux: unknown stream_id: 0xf0 WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost Sync at offset: 98296 bytes WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost sync, resyncing demux: unknown stream_id: 0xf0 WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost Sync at offset: 100344 bytes WARNING[ogle_mpeg_ps]: Lost sync, resyncing Using djbfft for IMDCT transform SNDCTL_DSP_GETCHANNELMASK: Invalid argument @@X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 142 (XVideo) Minor opcode of failed request: 19 () Serial number of failed request: 57 Current serial number in output stream: 57 I installed ogle from the FC1 rpms on yarrow.freshrpms.net mplayer usually works, sometimes it gives the same error too, but I prefer ogle for playing DVDs. -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From M.E.Foster at ed.ac.uk Sat May 1 19:29:28 2004 From: M.E.Foster at ed.ac.uk (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 20:29:28 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 3 on an IBM Thinkpad 600x In-Reply-To: <4093ED5D.1080304@cise.ufl.edu> References: <4093ED5D.1080304@cise.ufl.edu> Message-ID: <4093FA98.1000100@ed.ac.uk> Anand Rangarajan wrote: > Since FC2t3 is GNOME centric, I expected KDE to be fairly broken and > it was. There was no JuK (which I was looking forward to). Perhaps > this is because MP3 support is disabled? I bugzilla'd this -- it's because they didn't include taglib, which means that kdemultimedia gets build without JuK. My bug report describes what I did to get JuK installed. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122074 MEF From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 1 19:38:56 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 15:38:56 -0400 Subject: test3 vs make xconfig Message-ID: <200405011538.56070.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greets all; I just ran a make xconfig on that fresh install of test3 on my shop box as I wanted to turn on a full fledged ISA bus scan since there are two custom made 8 bit ISA cards containing a few relays and apparently a whole 8 bit wide input port per card, and while I have what appears to be normal fonts elsewhere, all I get on the xconfig screen are gfx chars, little boxes of various shapes and half, quarter, and full moons in a character sized box. That box isn't on a network allthough it may be eventually when I can figure out howto get some cat5 run to the shop building. I hate digging ditches, been there, done that once already for power out there. Running gnome of course since there is apparently no terminals available if I switchdesk to kde. And it sure don't look like the kde I'm looking at here! How can I fix these fubared characters? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From csm at moongroup.com Sat May 1 19:53:13 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 15:53:13 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 install on Athlon64 Message-ID: <1083441144.9500.6.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> So I have now done an x86_64 upgrade install from FC1 followed by a fresh install with the same partitioning on the same machine. Both times I had issues with getting the boot loader installed. The first time it actually crashed during install and the second time it just hung. After the second time I went ahead and rescued it and created a grub.conf from scratch since anaconda never made one. With both installs Nautilus would not run so I am using KDE right now which seems to be fine. I haven't tried xfce4 yet but I will in a few minutes. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Naively this seems like a gconf issue. Am i right? Is this worth filing? -jef From A1tmblwd at netscape.net Sat May 1 20:25:07 2004 From: A1tmblwd at netscape.net (A1tmblwd at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:25:07 -0400 Subject: test3 vs make xconfig Message-ID: <06F18AA1.3F0E89AE.005FFA64@netscape.net> Gene Heskett wrote: >Greets all; > >I just ran a make xconfig on that fresh install of test3 on my shop >box as I wanted to turn on a full fledged ISA bus scan since there >are two custom made 8 bit ISA cards containing a few relays and >apparently a whole 8 bit wide input port per card, and while I have >what appears to be normal fonts elsewhere, all I get on the xconfig >screen are gfx chars, little boxes of various shapes and half, >quarter, and full moons in a character sized box. > >That box isn't on a network allthough it may be eventually when I can >figure out howto get some cat5 run to the shop building. I hate >digging ditches, been there, done that once already for power out >there. > >Running gnome of course since there is apparently no terminals >available if I switchdesk to kde. And it sure don't look like the >kde I'm looking at here! > >How can I fix these fubared characters? > >-- >Cheers, Gene Use qconfig. It's not broken. If you must use xconfig, an anonymous poster in a 2.6.5 kernel forum recommended running qtconfig. Deselect (turn off) the option labeled "Enable Anti-Aliased Font Support (XFT)". It worked for me. -- Kam Leo __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From kas11 at tampabay.rr.com Sat May 1 20:45:21 2004 From: kas11 at tampabay.rr.com (Karen Spearel) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:45:21 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 install on Athlon64 In-Reply-To: <1083441144.9500.6.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> References: <1083441144.9500.6.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> Message-ID: <40940C61.7050403@tampabay.rr.com> Chuck Mead wrote: > So I have now done an x86_64 upgrade install from FC1 followed by a > fresh install with the same partitioning on the same machine. Both times > I had issues with getting the boot loader installed. The first time it > actually crashed during install and the second time it just hung. After > the second time I went ahead and rescued it and created a grub.conf from > scratch since anaconda never made one. > > With both installs Nautilus would not run so I am using KDE right now > which seems to be fine. I haven't tried xfce4 yet but I will in a few > minutes. > > -- > csm at moongroup.com, head geek > http://moongroup.com > > I've done both an update from an updated FC2T2 (just for grins) and a clean install of FC2T3 x86_64 with no apparent issues here...nautilus seems to run fine although I have switched from the "out in space" mode...grub installed and works as advertised...this system is an Asus K8V/3200. KAS From trey at fastmail.fm Sat May 1 20:49:08 2004 From: trey at fastmail.fm (Trey Sizemore) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:49:08 -0400 Subject: Adding packages via yum In-Reply-To: <1083330322.2151.9.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> References: <1083296864.22518.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4091D191.8000307@clarkson.edu> <1083330322.2151.9.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> Message-ID: <1083444548.9549.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 09:05, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > > I'm probably just misreading your message, but only use ONE baseurl= > per server section. List other urls on the following line(s). > > >From $man yum.conf > > baseurl > must be a url to the directory where the yum repository?s ?headers? > directory lives. Can be an http://, ftp:// or file://url. You can > specify multiple urls in one baseurl statement. The best way to do this > is like this: > > [serverid] > name=Some name for this server > baseurl=url://server1/path/to/repository/ > url://server2/path/to/repository/ > url://server3/path/to/repository/ > > If you list more than one baseurl= statement in a repository you > will find yum will ignore the earlier ones and probably act > bizarrely. Don?t do this, you?ve been warned. Well, I've been using the yum.conf I've posted earlier in the thread, and I'm still getting 'retrygrab() failed for:' messages on all my mirrors. Someone have a yum.conf that's working for them that I could try? Thanks. -- Cheers, Trey --- Adversity is the trial of principle. Without it, a man hardly knows whether he is honest or not. -- Henry Fielding 16:46:34 up 3 days, 19:55, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.14, 0.07 Linux salamander 2.6.5 #1 SMP Mon Apr 5 01:03:13 PDT 2004 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From A1tmblwd at netscape.net Sat May 1 20:54:21 2004 From: A1tmblwd at netscape.net (A1tmblwd at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:54:21 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 Shut down / reboot taking much longer to complete Message-ID: <3882EE0A.2C123363.005FFA64@netscape.net> Wayne Steenburg wrote: >On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 01:13, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: >> After upgrading from FC1 to FC2T3 the shuting down / reboot process is taking much longer to complete. The slow down begins when the message "Shutting down system logger" appears. Termiation of the process takes a minute or more. Then each of the following processes, "Shutting down interface eth0", "Shutting down loopback interface", and "Stopping iptables" exhibit similar behavior. Termination of these four processes takes minutes to complete. Whereas in the past it took only seconds. >> >> Firewall and iptables are enabled. SELinux is disabled. >> >> What is causing the slowdown? What do I need to do to get back the responsiveness of FC1? >> >If your /home directory is on a separate partition or you have the >diskspace necessary to backup your data, I would try a fresh install >instead of an upgrade. > > Thanks, that's the easy way out. I really want to know what is causing the problem. It's probably something the developers made to accomodate SELinux but haven't quite got working correctly. It would be nice if the developers could fix it before the official release. __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From alan at redhat.com Sat May 1 20:55:50 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 16:55:50 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 3 on an IBM Thinkpad 600x In-Reply-To: <4093ED5D.1080304@cise.ufl.edu> References: <4093ED5D.1080304@cise.ufl.edu> Message-ID: <20040501205550.GA20272@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 02:33:01PM -0400, Anand Rangarajan wrote: > Installation of FC2t3 went fairly smoothly. For some reason, it > complained that my partition table (generated by a previous redhat 9 > installation which I wiped out in the course of installing FC2t3) was > inconsistent and that I would have problems booting. Recommended that I Known bug in the installer > make a bootdisk. However, I was never again prompted to make a bootdisk > later on in the installation. (Also, I read somewhere that the 2.6 > kernel is too large for a boot floppy so perhaps this should be fixed.) Please bugzilla. Bootdisks are no more. > I picked a 1024x768 generic LCD display but for some reason, the display > configurator chose a 800x600 24 bit resolution. Perhaps it detected > 2.5MB of video memory and automatically picked the 800x600 resolution? > Redhat 9 allowed me to run 1024x768 at 24bpp. Same problem I had with an LCD panel - seems it forgets to offer the exact size. > When I tried to add/remove packages using the GUI, I ran into a problem. > KDE (or is it the installer?) mounted the FC2t3 CD 1 and brought up the The config-packages tool mounts the CD-ROM and knows about locking it v nautilus but possibly not versus konqueror. > When I rebooted for the second time, it said that it had to do some > recovery of my / ext3 partition and later on mentioned that it had > cleaned up some inodes. WTF is that? AFAIK, I had cleanly rebooted. This > should not have happened. Also saw that on my thinkpad 600, as if the IDE layer forgot to issue the cache-flush, power off sequence that the IBM laptop drives require. 2.4 does do this and 2.6 should be doing it but there may be a 2.6 bug - worth bugzillaing it and drop me the number so I can add mine. I wasnt sure if it was a specific funny of my laptop. Alan From wtogami at redhat.com Sat May 1 20:56:13 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 10:56:13 -1000 Subject: Gaim throwing tones of errors In-Reply-To: <20040501050404.99094.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040501050404.99094.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40940EED.1080502@redhat.com> Jerone Young wrote: > Using gaim 0.77-3 and when I check dmesg I see these: > > gaim[2650] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 > rsp:7fbfff8080 error:0 SNIP > gaim[3042] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 > rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 > > Gaim seems to be working fine, but it is doing > something wrong. > > Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Can you please provide the following information. Which architecture is this? I am guessing AMD64 based upon the register names. Which kernel version? Which protocols are you using in gaim? Upstream gaim developers have just informed me that the yahoo protocol is totally broken on 64bit architectures. Are you using yahoo? Are you seeing any behavior like this? Thanks, Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From alan at redhat.com Sat May 1 20:59:59 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 16:59:59 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 install on Athlon64 In-Reply-To: <40940C61.7050403@tampabay.rr.com> References: <1083441144.9500.6.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> <40940C61.7050403@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040501205959.GB20272@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 04:45:21PM -0400, Karen Spearel wrote: > I've done both an update from an updated FC2T2 (just for grins) and a > clean install of FC2T3 x86_64 with no apparent issues here...nautilus > seems to run fine although I have switched from the "out in space" > mode...grub installed and works as advertised...this system is an Asus > K8V/3200. Ditto with a dual opteron (Tyan 2885) although only if I remove the raid controller I had because somewhere between test1-test3 the aacraid driver has been broken for 64bit. From stlecho at yahoo.com Sat May 1 21:05:49 2004 From: stlecho at yahoo.com (Stefan Lecho) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 14:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD Message-ID: <20040501210549.81704.qmail@web60004.mail.yahoo.com> When booting from the first CD of the Core2 Test3 release, the installation asks for the language and keyboard settings. When the 'Local CDROM' is choosen as installation media, the following message is displayed: "No Fedora Core CD was found which matches your boot media. Please insert the Fedora Core CD and press ok." I've inserted all 4CDs, but without any succes. Could anybody please help me with this issue ? Regards. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From alan at redhat.com Sat May 1 21:19:23 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:19:23 -0400 Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD In-Reply-To: <20040501210549.81704.qmail@web60004.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040501210549.81704.qmail@web60004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040501211923.GA27045@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 02:05:49PM -0700, Stefan Lecho wrote: > When booting from the first CD of the Core2 Test3 > release, The BIOS has booted off your CD rom but then Linux cannot find the CD drive. This typically occurs on Sony vaio systems (with fix in release notes) > I've inserted all 4CDs, but without any succes. Could > anybody please help me with this issue ? Describe your hardware please From alan at redhat.com Sat May 1 21:26:42 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:26:42 -0400 Subject: Bug/status summary from my testing Message-ID: <20040501212642.GB27045@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Generally test3 is looking good, even on weirder setups including the CyrixIII box. aacraid is broken on AMD64 (#122196) release notes are broken (typos, and corners wrong at bottom) (#122199) x86-64 install blows up upgrading x86-32 installation (#122201) Bogus partition warning (#12204) Broken display mode options (#122205) One box needs mtrr fixups (upstream issue) Queued to retest - NCR5380 is broken in older FC2test - Atmel USB wireless is broken in older FC2test - Acard ATP870U corrupts memory on older FC2test - 3com 3c590 was not working in FC1/FC2test but was in RH9 or with Becker driver. - I2O support is broken (need to also test Markus patches not integrated) Then on to X stuff - via driver problems, voodoo driver missing etc. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 1 21:29:42 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:29:42 -0400 Subject: test3 vs make xconfig In-Reply-To: <06F18AA1.3F0E89AE.005FFA64@netscape.net> References: <06F18AA1.3F0E89AE.005FFA64@netscape.net> Message-ID: <200405011729.42691.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 01 May 2004 16:25, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >>Greets all; >> >>I just ran a make xconfig on that fresh install of test3 on my shop >>box as I wanted to turn on a full fledged ISA bus scan since there >>are two custom made 8 bit ISA cards containing a few relays and >>apparently a whole 8 bit wide input port per card, and while I have >>what appears to be normal fonts elsewhere, all I get on the xconfig >>screen are gfx chars, little boxes of various shapes and half, >>quarter, and full moons in a character sized box. >> >>That box isn't on a network allthough it may be eventually when I >> can figure out howto get some cat5 run to the shop building. I >> hate digging ditches, been there, done that once already for power >> out there. >> >>Running gnome of course since there is apparently no terminals >>available if I switchdesk to kde. And it sure don't look like the >>kde I'm looking at here! >> >>How can I fix these fubared characters? >> >>-- >>Cheers, Gene > >Use qconfig. It's not broken. I must have missed the highway billboard advising me of that someplace along the line. :( >If you must use xconfig, an anonymous > poster in a 2.6.5 kernel forum recommended running qtconfig. > Deselect (turn off) the option labeled "Enable Anti-Aliased Font > Support (XFT)". It worked for me. > It appears that antialiased fonts are functional everyplace else, including on this machine running nearly the same kernel, but XFree86-4.3. I'll go give that "make qconfig" a try. >-- Kam Leo > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. >Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > >Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > >New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From csm at moongroup.com Sat May 1 21:29:08 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 17:29:08 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 install on Athlon64 In-Reply-To: <40940C61.7050403@tampabay.rr.com> References: <1083441144.9500.6.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> <40940C61.7050403@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <1083446948.2218.1.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 16:45, Karen Spearel wrote: > Chuck Mead wrote: > > So I have now done an x86_64 upgrade install from FC1 followed by a > > fresh install with the same partitioning on the same machine. Both times > > I had issues with getting the boot loader installed. The first time it > > actually crashed during install and the second time it just hung. After > > the second time I went ahead and rescued it and created a grub.conf from > > scratch since anaconda never made one. > > > > With both installs Nautilus would not run so I am using KDE right now > > which seems to be fine. I haven't tried xfce4 yet but I will in a few > > minutes. > > > > -- > > csm at moongroup.com, head geek > > http://moongroup.com > > > > > > I've done both an update from an updated FC2T2 (just for grins) and a > clean install of FC2T3 x86_64 with no apparent issues here...nautilus > seems to run fine although I have switched from the "out in space" > mode...grub installed and works as advertised...this system is an Asus > K8V/3200. What is "out in space mode"? I am teaching the bug report for the nautilus problem. I will bugzilla it later when I get more time. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -------------- next part -------------- Backtrace was generated from '/usr/bin/nautilus' (no debugging symbols found)...Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/tls/libthread_db.so.1". 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No symbol table info available. #6 0x0000003cc5b056ab in start_thread () from /lib64/tls/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #7 0x0000003cc50bab03 in thread_start () from /lib64/tls/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #8 0x0000000000000000 in ?? 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Thread 1 (Thread 182894276736 (LWP 1770)): #0 0x0000003cc5b0be75 in waitpid () from /lib64/tls/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #1 0x0000003ccc955182 in libgnomeui_module_info_get () from /usr/lib64/libgnomeui-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #2 No symbol table info available. #3 0x0000003cc506a351 in free () from /lib64/tls/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #4 0x0000003cc712a42f in g_free () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #5 0x0000003cca82d2ba in ORBit_free_T () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #6 0x0000003cca82d15a in CORBA_wstring_len () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #7 0x0000003cca82d126 in CORBA_wstring_len () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #8 0x0000003cca82d297 in ORBit_free_T () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #9 0x0000003cca82d0b5 in CORBA_wstring_len () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #10 0x0000003cca82d297 in ORBit_free_T () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #11 0x0000003cca82d2fd in ORBit_free () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #12 0x0000003cca82d1f9 in CORBA_free () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #13 0x0000003ccc046234 in gnome_vfs_volume_monitor_client_get_type () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #14 0x0000003ccc046399 in gnome_vfs_volume_monitor_client_get_type () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #15 0x0000003cc7921dc4 in g_type_create_instance () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #16 0x0000003cc790ea89 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #17 0x0000003cc790e242 in g_object_newv () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #18 0x0000003cc790ea63 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #19 0x0000003cc790dfb7 in g_object_new () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #20 0x0000003ccc048330 in _gnome_vfs_get_volume_monitor_internal () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #21 0x0000003ccc04836e in gnome_vfs_get_volume_monitor () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #22 0x0000000000429d92 in nautilus_application_get_spatial_window_list () No symbol table info available. #23 0x0000003cc7921dc4 in g_type_create_instance () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #24 0x0000003cc790ea89 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #25 0x0000003ccc231bdf in bonobo_object_query_local_interface () from /usr/lib64/libbonobo-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #26 0x0000003cc790e242 in g_object_newv () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #27 0x0000003cc790ea63 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #28 0x0000003cc790dfb7 in g_object_new () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #29 0x0000000000429e52 in nautilus_application_new () No symbol table info available. #30 0x000000000043549e in main () No symbol table info available. #0 0x0000003cc5b0be75 in waitpid () from /lib64/tls/libpthread.so.0 -------------- next part -------------- Backtrace was generated from '/usr/bin/nautilus' (no debugging symbols found)...Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/tls/libthread_db.so.1". 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in libgnomeui_module_info_get () from /usr/lib64/libgnomeui-2.so.0 #2 #3 0x0000003cc506a351 in free () from /lib64/tls/libc.so.6 #4 0x0000003cc712a42f in g_free () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 #5 0x0000003cca82d2ba in ORBit_free_T () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 #6 0x0000003cca82d15a in CORBA_wstring_len () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 #7 0x0000003cca82d126 in CORBA_wstring_len () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 #8 0x0000003cca82d297 in ORBit_free_T () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 #9 0x0000003cca82d0b5 in CORBA_wstring_len () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 #10 0x0000003cca82d297 in ORBit_free_T () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 #11 0x0000003cca82d2fd in ORBit_free () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 #12 0x0000003cca82d1f9 in CORBA_free () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 #13 0x0000003ccc046234 in gnome_vfs_volume_monitor_client_get_type () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 #14 0x0000003ccc046399 in gnome_vfs_volume_monitor_client_get_type () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 #15 0x0000003cc7921dc4 in g_type_create_instance () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #16 0x0000003cc790ea89 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #17 0x0000003cc790e242 in g_object_newv () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #18 0x0000003cc790ea63 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #19 0x0000003cc790dfb7 in g_object_new () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #20 0x0000003ccc048330 in _gnome_vfs_get_volume_monitor_internal () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 #21 0x0000003ccc04836e in gnome_vfs_get_volume_monitor () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 #22 0x0000000000429d92 in nautilus_application_get_spatial_window_list () #23 0x0000003cc7921dc4 in g_type_create_instance () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #24 0x0000003cc790ea89 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #25 0x0000003ccc231bdf in bonobo_object_query_local_interface () from /usr/lib64/libbonobo-2.so.0 #26 0x0000003cc790e242 in g_object_newv () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #27 0x0000003cc790ea63 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #28 0x0000003cc790dfb7 in g_object_new () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #29 0x0000000000429e52 in nautilus_application_new () #30 0x000000000043549e in main () Thread 2 (Thread 1084225904 (LWP 1780)): #0 0x0000003cc50b286c in poll () from /lib64/tls/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #1 0x0000003cc7126697 in g_main_loop_get_context () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #2 0x0000003cc7125bf0 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #3 0x0000003cc712620d in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #4 0x0000003cca83f2b0 in link_thread_io_context () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #5 0x0000003cc713bf78 in g_static_private_free () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 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Thread 1 (Thread 182894276736 (LWP 1770)): #0 0x0000003cc5b0be75 in waitpid () from /lib64/tls/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #1 0x0000003ccc955182 in libgnomeui_module_info_get () from /usr/lib64/libgnomeui-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #2 No symbol table info available. #3 0x0000003cc506a351 in free () from /lib64/tls/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #4 0x0000003cc712a42f in g_free () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #5 0x0000003cca82d2ba in ORBit_free_T () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #6 0x0000003cca82d15a in CORBA_wstring_len () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #7 0x0000003cca82d126 in CORBA_wstring_len () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #8 0x0000003cca82d297 in ORBit_free_T () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #9 0x0000003cca82d0b5 in CORBA_wstring_len () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #10 0x0000003cca82d297 in ORBit_free_T () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #11 0x0000003cca82d2fd in ORBit_free () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #12 0x0000003cca82d1f9 in CORBA_free () from /usr/lib64/libORBit-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #13 0x0000003ccc046234 in gnome_vfs_volume_monitor_client_get_type () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #14 0x0000003ccc046399 in gnome_vfs_volume_monitor_client_get_type () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #15 0x0000003cc7921dc4 in g_type_create_instance () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #16 0x0000003cc790ea89 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #17 0x0000003cc790e242 in g_object_newv () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #18 0x0000003cc790ea63 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #19 0x0000003cc790dfb7 in g_object_new () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #20 0x0000003ccc048330 in _gnome_vfs_get_volume_monitor_internal () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #21 0x0000003ccc04836e in gnome_vfs_get_volume_monitor () from /usr/lib64/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #22 0x0000000000429d92 in nautilus_application_get_spatial_window_list () No symbol table info available. #23 0x0000003cc7921dc4 in g_type_create_instance () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #24 0x0000003cc790ea89 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #25 0x0000003ccc231bdf in bonobo_object_query_local_interface () from /usr/lib64/libbonobo-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #26 0x0000003cc790e242 in g_object_newv () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #27 0x0000003cc790ea63 in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #28 0x0000003cc790dfb7 in g_object_new () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #29 0x0000000000429e52 in nautilus_application_new () No symbol table info available. #30 0x000000000043549e in main () No symbol table info available. #0 0x0000003cc5b0be75 in waitpid () from /lib64/tls/libpthread.so.0 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat May 1 21:32:58 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:32:58 -0400 Subject: fc2t3: usb devices not accepting addresses, please confirm Message-ID: <223152EB.1449F089@mail.gmail.com> Okay, I'm testing how my test3 box handles all the usb devices i currently have up and running without a hitch on my fc1 box, but it seems im hitting a kernel level problem with usb device detection. The one bugzilla report i found about this sort of error was against rhl9 and suggested a system hardware failure. So before i report this problem to the zilla, Id like to confirm if anyone has fc2t3 correctly seeing the same problem. For my sanDisk Imagemate SDDR-31 flashcard usb reader i get these messages in the /var/log/messages file when i plugin the usb device: May 1 17:16:32 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 6 May 1 17:16:33 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: device not accepting address 6, error -71 May 1 17:16:33 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 7 May 1 17:16:34 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: device not accepting address 7, error -84 Ive also tried my ioplus PocketDisk usb keychain drive with similar "not accepting address errors" on the test3 box, while it works on fc1 flawlessly. It could very well be the test box hardware is busted, so if I'd like to see someone confirm if they have a problem with either of these devices in fc2t3. -jef"someone has to have that sddr-31 imagemate flashcard reader"spaleta From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat May 1 20:33:04 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 22:33:04 +0200 Subject: header/RPM mismatch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083443580.1460.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le ven 30/04/2004 ? 19:25, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero a ?crit : > If yum is not to replace up2date for updating, then why does it exist? The best answers : Because I love it :-) Thanks Seth Vidal. From anand at cise.ufl.edu Sat May 1 19:44:19 2004 From: anand at cise.ufl.edu (Anand Rangarajan) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 15:44:19 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 3 on an IBM Thinkpad 600x In-Reply-To: <4093FA98.1000100@ed.ac.uk> References: <4093ED5D.1080304@cise.ufl.edu> <4093FA98.1000100@ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4093FE13.8080006@cise.ufl.edu> Thanks. I'll give taglib a shot after first getting mp3 support working. Building kdemultimedia on a 600MHz PIII might take a few days though :'( . Hopefully the next release of FC2 will fix this problem. Anand Mary Ellen Foster wrote: > Anand Rangarajan wrote: > >> Since FC2t3 is GNOME centric, I expected KDE to be fairly broken and >> it was. There was no JuK (which I was looking forward to). Perhaps >> this is because MP3 support is disabled? > > > I bugzilla'd this -- it's because they didn't include taglib, which > means that kdemultimedia gets build without JuK. My bug report > describes what I did to get JuK installed. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122074 > > MEF > > From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 1 21:51:36 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:51:36 -0400 Subject: test3 vs make xconfig In-Reply-To: <06F18AA1.3F0E89AE.005FFA64@netscape.net> References: <06F18AA1.3F0E89AE.005FFA64@netscape.net> Message-ID: <200405011751.36116.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 01 May 2004 16:25, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >>Greets all; >> >>I just ran a make xconfig on that fresh install of test3 on my shop >>box as I wanted to turn on a full fledged ISA bus scan since there >>are two custom made 8 bit ISA cards containing a few relays and >>apparently a whole 8 bit wide input port per card, and while I have >>what appears to be normal fonts elsewhere, all I get on the xconfig >>screen are gfx chars, little boxes of various shapes and half, >>quarter, and full moons in a character sized box. >> >>That box isn't on a network allthough it may be eventually when I >> can figure out howto get some cat5 run to the shop building. I >> hate digging ditches, been there, done that once already for power >> out there. >> >>Running gnome of course since there is apparently no terminals >>available if I switchdesk to kde. And it sure don't look like the >>kde I'm looking at here! >> >>How can I fix these fubared characters? >> >>-- >>Cheers, Gene > >Use qconfig. It's not broken. If you must use xconfig, an anonymous > poster in a 2.6.5 kernel forum recommended running qtconfig. > Deselect (turn off) the option labeled "Enable Anti-Aliased Font > Support (XFT)". It worked for me. > Thanks Kam. If you are refering to "make qconfig", thats an error 2, no such option in the makefile or some such twaddle. When I arrived up the hill at the shop, and woke up the monitor(I'd left it running when I came down the hill to send the previous msg), the screen was trashed, and I had to exit x and restart it to clean up the screen (I'm using a blank screen as the screensaver). Now it seems to me the least fussy screensaver is a blank screen, needs little of no cpu. But this is test 3, so... That machine did pass about 3 full passes of memtest86 nice and cleanly. Next suggestion? Does a make menuconfig still work? >-- Kam Leo > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. >Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > >Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > >New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From jdueitt at bu.edu Sat May 1 21:48:39 2004 From: jdueitt at bu.edu (Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr.) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 17:48:39 -0400 Subject: Install from FireWire CD Drive Message-ID: <1083448119.16376.3.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> I have a Sony VAIO PCG-SRX87 laptop that I have been running Linux on quite happily for two years now. I was wondering if there was a way to install Test 3 from the iLink drive that the system uses. I can pass the kernel option of firewire and it will load the ohci driver, however I can not get it to load the sbp2 module. I eventually got it installed by using the iLink drive to boot the installer and then plugging in an external USB DVD-RW drive and using the USB-MassStorage module. I did some poking around the image during the install process and couldn't locate an sbp2 module on the install media. Is this a known issue, can I expect to be able to install FC3 final from my firewire CD drive? -Jerry. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kas11 at tampabay.rr.com Sat May 1 21:46:57 2004 From: kas11 at tampabay.rr.com (Karen Spearel) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 17:46:57 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 install on Athlon64 In-Reply-To: <1083446948.2218.1.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> References: <1083441144.9500.6.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> <40940C61.7050403@tampabay.rr.com> <1083446948.2218.1.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> Message-ID: <40941AD1.7020600@tampabay.rr.com> Chuck Mead wrote: > What is "out in space mode"? > > the default spatial mode. KAS From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat May 1 22:20:04 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:20:04 -0500 Subject: gtkam issue's with USB Camera In-Reply-To: <200405011327.51325.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <200405011327.51325.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <200405011720.04494.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> I can manage to make it to work. When my camera has multiple subdirectory's, that seems to confuse gtkam. I was gonna use bug buddy, but there was not a listing for gtkam. (gtkam:31779): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to set label from markup due to error parsing markup: Error on line 3 char 59: ' ' is not a valid character following a '<' character; it may not begin an element name (gtkam:32141): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1548 (g_object_remove_weak_pointer): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed From fedora at nullnetwork.com Sat May 1 22:20:30 2004 From: fedora at nullnetwork.com (fedora) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 00:20:30 +0200 Subject: Rebuilding kernel-source for NVIDIA drivers help! Message-ID: <409422AE.50807@nullnetwork.com> I'm trying to get NVIDIA drivers to work with FC2T3's kernel-2.6.5-1.327 -- no luck. Maybe you guys can tell me what am I doing wrong here, it will benefit a lot of people I presume. Here is what I did I downloaded kernel-2.6.5-1.327.src.rpm and NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.run 1. rpm -i kernel-2.6.5-1.327.src.rpm 2. commented out "Patch200: linux-2.6.5-nostack.patch" and "%patch200 -p1" from spec file (in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS) 3. rebuilt kernel with: rpmbuild -bb /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec (It made the package: kernel-2.6.5-1.327.root.i386.rpm) <-- why the suffix? 4. installed new kernel-source: rpm -ivh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/ -it placed linux-2.6.5-1.327.root into /usr/src/ 5. did sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel (built custom package) 6. tried running custom package: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.custom.run, got error saying cannot find kernel-sources 7. specified kernel sources with sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.custom.run --kernel-source-path=/usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.327.root 8. received error saying NVIDIA kernel was built with different kernel-source I installed and removed kernel-sources back and forth (original 2.6.5-1.327 and rebuilt one). Tried a few combinations with the installer and no luck. Minion.de patches don't work either, neither do sh.nu packages. Cheers, and TIA. From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Sat May 1 22:31:09 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 15:31:09 -0700 Subject: Adding packages via yum In-Reply-To: <1083444548.9549.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083296864.22518.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4091D191.8000307@clarkson.edu> <1083330322.2151.9.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> <1083444548.9549.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040501223109.GG30709@ece.arizona.edu> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 04:49:08PM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote: > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 09:05, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > Well, I've been using the yum.conf I've posted earlier in the thread, > and I'm still getting 'retrygrab() failed for:' messages on all my > mirrors. Someone have a yum.conf that's working for them that I could > try? A couple of notes: 1) Providing the end of the error (where it says specifically what went wrong) is more illuminating than saying "getting 'retrygrab() failed for' messages". Now, you posted the entire error in the original message, so I'm not chastising you... just offering general advice to the community :) 2) Adding a baseurl is not (and should not be perceived to be) mysterious. The baseurl is simply the location where "headers/" lives. So, when I see this: retrygrab() failed for: http://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/1.92/i386/os/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/1.92/i386/os/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found then I know your baseurl is: http://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/1.92/i386/os/ My point is this: If you want to use a given mirror but they've changed their filesystem layout, or someone gave you a bad baseurl, you need only find the place where the headers/ dir lives. You can usually do this in about 60 seconds with your favorite browser. I almost NEVER bother looking for a yum.conf snippet or documented baseurl. I find it much faster to simply browse the repo looking for the headers dir. I hope this is useful. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Sat May 1 22:40:26 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 01:40:26 +0300 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes Message-ID: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Are there any updates on why systems hang when tux racer is run. The best that I can see from bugzilla is that some people think that it is a kernel problem and not an X problem. If it helps anybody it happens on my system too running .327 with Selinux in permissive mode. lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB/ER Hub interface to PCI Bridge (rev 82) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) LPC Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 01:03.0 Modem: Philips Semiconductors SmartPCI56(UCB1500) 56K Modem (rev 01) 01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BD PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 82) From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Sat May 1 22:45:00 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 15:45:00 -0700 Subject: header/RPM mismatch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040501224459.GH30709@ece.arizona.edu> On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 01:25:20PM -0400, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > If yum is not to replace up2date for updating, then why does it exist? As much as I hate to bring car analogies into a computer discussion... This is like saying "if the Ford F150 is not to replace the Ranger, then why does it exist?". They do different things. Sure the primary function of yum and up2date is the same (just as for the F150 and Ranger) but they differ in significant ways. These ways may not be significant TO YOU, but they ARE to some people. > What itch is _it_ scratching that up2date > wouldn't/shouldn't/couldn't scratch? Well, I'm not even sure up2date existed when Seth started hacking on yum. When up2date came into common use, many people preferred yum because it let you use multiple repositories and didn't require you to pay to set up your own server. Maybe up2date satisfies this now as well. I don't know, but the list goes on and on. I'm sure up2date has features that some people really like, as well. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From A1tmblwd at netscape.net Sat May 1 23:18:37 2004 From: A1tmblwd at netscape.net (A1tmblwd at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 19:18:37 -0400 Subject: test3 vs make xconfig Message-ID: <0D9A90D2.23C2328B.005FFA64@netscape.net> Sorry, typo on my part. Use "make gconfig" not "make qconfig". You can get the straight scoop from the kernel README. The advice regarding qtconfig applies to version 3.2.1. You need to click on the font tab and uncheck the "Enable Anti-Aliased Font Support (Xft)" box. The "Enable Anti-Aliased Font Support (Xft)" option has been removed from Qt Configuration, version 3.3.1. I have not encountered any problems using either xconfig or gconfig under FC2T3. --Kam Gene Heskett wrote: >On Saturday 01 May 2004 16:25, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: >>Gene Heskett wrote: >>>Greets all; >>> >>>I just ran a make xconfig on that fresh install of test3 on my shop >>>box as I wanted to turn on a full fledged ISA bus scan since there >>>are two custom made 8 bit ISA cards containing a few relays and >>>apparently a whole 8 bit wide input port per card, and while I have >>>what appears to be normal fonts elsewhere, all I get on the xconfig >>>screen are gfx chars, little boxes of various shapes and half, >>>quarter, and full moons in a character sized box. >>> >>>That box isn't on a network allthough it may be eventually when I >>> can figure out howto get some cat5 run to the shop building. I >>> hate digging ditches, been there, done that once already for power >>> out there. >>> >>>Running gnome of course since there is apparently no terminals >>>available if I switchdesk to kde. And it sure don't look like the >>>kde I'm looking at here! >>> >>>How can I fix these fubared characters? >>> >>>-- >>>Cheers, Gene >> >>Use qconfig. It's not broken. If you must use xconfig, an anonymous >> poster in a 2.6.5 kernel forum recommended running qtconfig. >> Deselect (turn off) the option labeled "Enable Anti-Aliased Font >> Support (XFT)". It worked for me. >> >Thanks Kam. If you are refering to "make qconfig", thats an error 2, >no such option in the makefile or some such twaddle. > >When I arrived up the hill at the shop, and woke up the monitor(I'd >left it running when I came down the hill to send the previous msg), >the screen was trashed, and I had to exit x and restart it to clean >up the screen (I'm using a blank screen as the screensaver). Now it >seems to me the least fussy screensaver is a blank screen, needs >little of no cpu. But this is test 3, so... > >That machine did pass about 3 full passes of memtest86 nice and >cleanly. > >Next suggestion? Does a make menuconfig still work? > >>-- Kam Leo >> >-- >Cheers, Gene __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From baron at psych.upenn.edu Sat May 1 23:19:11 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:19:11 -0400 Subject: ssh-keygen with no passphrase Message-ID: <20040501231911.GA7421@psych> I control about 5 Linux computers, all running RedHat 9 or some version of Fedora. In several versions of RedHat and with Fedora Core 1, I've been able to use ssh-keygen to make a public key without a passphrase, which I then put into .ssh/authorized_keys or .ssh/authorized_keys2, and I am able to log in, or transfer files with scp, without typing a password, a great convenience, which I use with many scripts, such as those in which I back up stuff from one Linux box to another (or even to a Solaris server). This has stopped working in Fedora Core 2 test 2 and test 3. I can't find anything about it in bugzilla or the archives of this list. I really don't see why it shouldn't work, since this is all part of openssh, which hasn't changed. Or has it? The problem is that I must type in a password all the time. Advice? Jon -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 1 23:10:20 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:10:20 -0400 Subject: test3 vs make xconfig In-Reply-To: <200405011751.36116.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <06F18AA1.3F0E89AE.005FFA64@netscape.net> <200405011751.36116.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200405011910.20227.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 01 May 2004 17:51, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Saturday 01 May 2004 16:25, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: >>Gene Heskett wrote: >>>Greets all; >>> >>>I just ran a make xconfig on that fresh install of test3 on my >>> shop box as I wanted to turn on a full fledged ISA bus scan since >>> there are two custom made 8 bit ISA cards containing a few relays >>> and apparently a whole 8 bit wide input port per card, and while >>> I have what appears to be normal fonts elsewhere, all I get on >>> the xconfig screen are gfx chars, little boxes of various shapes >>> and half, quarter, and full moons in a character sized box. >>> >>>That box isn't on a network allthough it may be eventually when I >>> can figure out howto get some cat5 run to the shop building. I >>> hate digging ditches, been there, done that once already for >>> power out there. >>> >>>Running gnome of course since there is apparently no terminals >>>available if I switchdesk to kde. And it sure don't look like the >>>kde I'm looking at here! >>> >>>How can I fix these fubared characters? >>> >>>-- >>>Cheers, Gene >> >>Use qconfig. It's not broken. If you must use xconfig, an anonymous >> poster in a 2.6.5 kernel forum recommended running qtconfig. >> Deselect (turn off) the option labeled "Enable Anti-Aliased Font >> Support (XFT)". It worked for me. > >Thanks Kam. If you are refering to "make qconfig", thats an error > 2, no such option in the makefile or some such twaddle. > >When I arrived up the hill at the shop, and woke up the monitor(I'd >left it running when I came down the hill to send the previous msg), >the screen was trashed, and I had to exit x and restart it to clean >up the screen (I'm using a blank screen as the screensaver). Now it >seems to me the least fussy screensaver is a blank screen, needs >little of no cpu. But this is test 3, so... > >That machine did pass about 3 full passes of memtest86 nice and >cleanly. > >Next suggestion? Does a make menuconfig still work? One thing I hadn't noticed is that, first qtconfig was preset for some utf8 font as the default, rather quickly changed to codepage 437 which I also made the default compiled in font when I finally got a "make xconfig" to run. That problem it turned out, was the fonts for starters, and the lack of my copying in from the configs dir, a suitable starter .config. Once that was done, everything seems normal, and a fresh kernel is building as we type, probably take about an hour since its a 233 PII, and only 128 megs of pc-100 dimm. Can you say sslloooowwwwww? For those with similar problems, run qtconfig and assign some reasonable fonts, then make sure there is a copy of .config present in the /usr/src/linux-2.6 tree. Humm, I noted, but didn't fix, the lack of a softlink named linux-2.6 in the usr/src dir. Should I fix that? > >>-- Kam Leo >> >> >>__________________________________________________________________ >>Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. >>Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at >> http://isp.netscape.com/register >> >>Netscape. Just the Net You Need. >> >>New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >>Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >>Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > >-- >Cheers, Gene >"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >-Ed Howdershelt (Author) >99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly >Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message >by Gene Heskett are: >Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sat May 1 23:27:26 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:27:26 -0700 Subject: Rebuilding kernel-source for NVIDIA drivers help! In-Reply-To: <409422AE.50807@nullnetwork.com> References: <409422AE.50807@nullnetwork.com> Message-ID: <1083454046.15052.10.camel@CirithUngol> Here is a quick response that may get you going. On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 00:20 +0200, fedora wrote: > I'm trying to get NVIDIA drivers to work with FC2T3's kernel-2.6.5-1.327 > -- no luck. Maybe you guys can tell me what am I doing wrong here, it > will benefit a lot of people I presume. > > Here is what I did > > I downloaded kernel-2.6.5-1.327.src.rpm and > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.run > > 1. rpm -i kernel-2.6.5-1.327.src.rpm > 2. commented out "Patch200: linux-2.6.5-nostack.patch" and "%patch200 > -p1" from spec file (in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS) Fine so far -- but you need to also manually edit the config files to remove the 4K stacks default value of y, you should set them to: # CONFIG_4KSTACKS is not set If you do not use the minion.de patch, you MUST set register parameters off as well: # CONFIG_REGPARM is not set > 3. rebuilt kernel with: rpmbuild -bb > /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec (It made the package: > kernel-2.6.5-1.327.root.i386.rpm) <-- why the suffix? Suffix created to identify that this kernel was a custom built kernel, you can change the behavior to be whatever you want in the spec... but you should leave something on the end to know it is not the default kernel (it makes no difference to its capabilities, etc...) %define release %(R="$Revision: 1.327 $"; RR="${R##: }"; echo ${RR%%?})%{rhbsys} On the end you see, rhbsys, which in the previous statement is set to your username by the 'whoami' command. > 4. installed new kernel-source: rpm -ivh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/ > -it placed linux-2.6.5-1.327.root into /usr/src/ > 5. did sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel (built > custom package) > 6. tried running custom package: sh > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.custom.run, got error saying cannot find > kernel-sources You must run that after you reboot to the target kernel, or specify that you are not running the target. --kernel-name=2.6.5-1.327.root > 7. specified kernel sources with sh > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.custom.run > --kernel-source-path=/usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.327.root > 8. received error saying NVIDIA kernel was built with different > kernel-source You may still need to specify the kernel-source-path, but the above is the real issue. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat May 1 23:46:54 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ssh-keygen with no passphrase In-Reply-To: <20040501231911.GA7421@psych> References: <20040501231911.GA7421@psych> Message-ID: <64990.65.40.71.237.1083455214.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Jonathan Baron said: > I control about 5 Linux computers, all running RedHat 9 or some > version of Fedora. > > In several versions of RedHat and with Fedora Core 1, I've been > able to use ssh-keygen to make a public key without a passphrase, [snip] > This has stopped working in Fedora Core 2 test 2 and test 3. [snip] Works for me. Have you double checked the permissions on authorized_keys? If those are OK, try running the SSH server in debug mode and see what it says. -- William Hooper From david at bus.ucf.edu Sat May 1 23:50:57 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 19:50:57 -0400 Subject: Desktop switching tool problem In-Reply-To: <4093B484.4040105@earthlink.net> References: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> <4093B484.4040105@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1083455681.963.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/1/2004 10:30 AM, Gerry Tool wrote: >> I just did a clean install of Test 3, all went well except in this >> version, I can't get the desktop switching tool from the main menu to >> work. It just goes off into the weeds and doesn't run. When I run >> /user/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py, it says there is a syntax >> problem in line 36. I ran /user/share/applications/switchdesk and, of >> course, it runs switchdesk-gui.py with the same error. Any ideas? >> >> > See > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121840 Anyone knows where to get switchdesk-4.0.3-1? That bugzilla entry talks about it being fixed on that one (4.0.3-1), but I have not been able to find the package and up2date or yum do not see and update for 4.0.2-1, which is what I have now. TIA! Cheers, -- David From guy.van-den-bergh at skynet.be Sat May 1 23:58:29 2004 From: guy.van-den-bergh at skynet.be (Guy Van Den Bergh) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 01:58:29 +0200 Subject: fc2t3: usb devices not accepting addresses, please confirm In-Reply-To: <223152EB.1449F089@mail.gmail.com> References: <223152EB.1449F089@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1083455909.5412.29.camel@laptop.guyvdb.net> Dunno whether this is the confirmation you were looking for, but anyway: I've seen this FC1 and FC2test2 on an Apacer USB card reader and LaCie USB harddisks, however only when I have been doing large transfers to it, like populating with another filesystem image, or copying large files to or from it. It looks like somehow the USB cardreader/disk is not responding anymore. Unplug and plug shows then the "not accepting new address". Only poweroff helped. It looks like test3 is showing this behaviour only with the card reader. Disks seem to work fine now. I think this is some race-condition triggered error, because it is quite undeterministic. Guy On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 23:32, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Okay, I'm testing how my test3 box handles all the usb devices i > currently have up and running without a hitch on my fc1 box, but it > seems im hitting a kernel level problem with > usb device detection. The one bugzilla report i found about this sort > of error was against rhl9 > and suggested a system hardware failure. So before i report this > problem to the zilla, Id > like to confirm if anyone has fc2t3 correctly seeing the same problem. > > For my sanDisk Imagemate SDDR-31 flashcard usb reader i get these > messages in the /var/log/messages file when i plugin the usb device: > May 1 17:16:32 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device > using address 6 > May 1 17:16:33 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: device not accepting address > 6, error -71 > May 1 17:16:33 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device > using address 7 > May 1 17:16:34 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: device not accepting address > 7, error -84 > > Ive also tried my ioplus PocketDisk usb keychain drive with similar > "not accepting address errors" on the test3 box, while it works on fc1 > flawlessly. It could very well be the test box hardware is busted, so > if I'd like to see someone confirm if they have a problem with either > of these devices in fc2t3. > > -jef"someone has to have that sddr-31 imagemate flashcard reader"spaleta -- Guy Van Den Bergh From helios82 at optushome.com.au Sun May 2 00:09:28 2004 From: helios82 at optushome.com.au (Matt Hansen) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 10:09:28 +1000 Subject: test3 vs make xconfig In-Reply-To: <200405011910.20227.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <06F18AA1.3F0E89AE.005FFA64@netscape.net> <200405011751.36116.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200405011910.20227.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1083456567.3572.34.camel@fc1> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 09:10, Gene Heskett wrote: > Humm, I noted, but didn't fix, the lack of a softlink named linux-2.6 > in the usr/src dir. Should I fix that? No, this is intentional. See this for details: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122114 Regards, -Matt -- "Would you buy a car with the hood welded shut?" - Bob Young on the benefits of the open source development model. mhelios - www.fedoraforum.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun May 2 00:04:01 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 20:04:01 -0400 Subject: fc2t3: usb devices not accepting addresses, please confirm In-Reply-To: <1083455909.5412.29.camel@laptop.guyvdb.net> References: <223152EB.1449F089@mail.gmail.com> <1083455909.5412.29.camel@laptop.guyvdb.net> Message-ID: <234C9922.BAC7D26@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 02 May 2004 01:58:29 +0200, Guy Van Den Bergh wrote: > > > Dunno whether this is the confirmation you were looking for, but anyway: > > I've seen this FC1 and FC2test2 on an Apacer USB card reader and LaCie > USB harddisks, however only when I have been doing large transfers to > it, like populating with another filesystem image, or copying large > files to or from it. It looks like somehow the USB cardreader/disk is > not responding anymore. Unplug and plug shows then the "not accepting > new address". Only poweroff helped. fc1 on my production machine has not had one single problem with the usb devices im trying to use on the test box. I use my cardreader religuously to dump large collections of camera images to the computer, never had it stop responding under fc1. I guess im going to have to install fc1 on this test box and get a decent base line to make sure its not some flaky mobo problem in the test box. -jef From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 2 00:22:39 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 02:22:39 +0200 Subject: header/RPM mismatch In-Reply-To: <20040501224459.GH30709@ece.arizona.edu> References: <20040501224459.GH30709@ece.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <40943F4F.2010407@gmx.de> Michael Stenner wrote: >On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 01:25:20PM -0400, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > >>If yum is not to replace up2date for updating, then why does it exist? >> >> >Well, I'm not even sure up2date existed when Seth started hacking on >yum. When up2date came into common use, many people preferred yum >because it let you use multiple repositories and didn't require you to >pay to set up your own server. Maybe up2date satisfies this now as >well. I don't know, but the list goes on and on. I'm sure up2date >has features that some people really like, as well. > i do not know when seth started with yum but rhn-applet and up2date are doing a good job since a few years for me $ cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) $ rpm -qf `which rhn-needed-packages up2date` rhn-applet-1.0.6-11 up2date-gnome-2.8.40-3.7.3 on fc1 $ rpm -q up2date yum rhn-applet up2date-4.1.21-3 yum-2.0.5-1 rhn-applet-2.1.4-3 http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.1/en/os/i386/SRPMS/up2date-1.0.1-1.src.rpm http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/os/i386/SRPMS/up2date-1.13-1.src.rpm -- shrek-m From alan at redhat.com Sun May 2 00:48:15 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 20:48:15 -0400 Subject: header/RPM mismatch In-Reply-To: <40943F4F.2010407@gmx.de> References: <20040501224459.GH30709@ece.arizona.edu> <40943F4F.2010407@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20040502004815.GA10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 02:22:39AM +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > i do not know when seth started with yum > but rhn-applet and up2date are doing a good job since a few years for me up2date (of old) was built around the Red Hat network and central services that work extremely well for enterprise/paid support type stuff. It didn't support yum/apt and the like until Fedora 1. Yum always supported yum (suprise) but not the more enterprise focussed stuff. From masterra at m-ra.net Sun May 2 00:56:17 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:56:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Synaptics Message-ID: Might be a bad question for this list, but anyone have an experience getting a synaptics touchpad to work under FC2Tx? I'm about to try, and just wondered if anyone had any hints.. especally now that we're using the Xorg xserver.. although i guess they both use the same drivers? From pbender at qualcomm.com Sun May 2 01:17:25 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 18:17:25 -0700 Subject: Synaptics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40944C25.8010100@qualcomm.com> Quasar Jarosz wrote: > Might be a bad question for this list, but anyone have an experience > getting a synaptics touchpad to work under FC2Tx? I'm about to try, and > just wondered if anyone had any hints.. especally now that we're using the > Xorg xserver.. although i guess they both use the same drivers? The synaptics touchpad driver from is working fine for me. From farzadb82 at cox.net Sun May 2 01:24:36 2004 From: farzadb82 at cox.net (farzadb82 at cox.net) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 21:24:36 -0400 Subject: Annoying flashing in gnome-terminal Message-ID: <20040502012436.VFOD10595.lakermmtao08.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Does anyone have their whole screen flash when backspacing, when there is nothing to backspace, in gnome-terminal ? If I press the backspace button in a new terminal window, when there is nothing to backspace, the whole screen flashes as if it's being redrawn slowly. I'm running a Celeron 800, GA686BXS board w/t a Voodoo3 2000 AGP video, PCI SB 128 and a PCI 10/100 network card (Generic RTL8139). From trey at fastmail.fm Sun May 2 01:30:04 2004 From: trey at fastmail.fm (Trey Sizemore) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 21:30:04 -0400 Subject: Adding packages via yum In-Reply-To: <20040501223109.GG30709@ece.arizona.edu> References: <1083296864.22518.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4091D191.8000307@clarkson.edu> <1083330322.2151.9.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> <1083444548.9549.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040501223109.GG30709@ece.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <1083461404.9555.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 18:31, Michael Stenner wrote: > On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 04:49:08PM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 09:05, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > > Well, I've been using the yum.conf I've posted earlier in the thread, > > and I'm still getting 'retrygrab() failed for:' messages on all my > > mirrors. Someone have a yum.conf that's working for them that I could > > try? > > A couple of notes: > > 1) Providing the end of the error (where it says specifically what > went wrong) is more illuminating than saying "getting 'retrygrab() > failed for' messages". Now, you posted the entire error in the > original message, so I'm not chastising you... just offering > general advice to the community :) As you mentioned, posted earlier in the thread. > > 2) Adding a baseurl is not (and should not be perceived to be) > mysterious. The baseurl is simply the location where "headers/" > lives. So, when I see this: I didn't say adding a baseurl WAS mysterious. > > My point is this: If you want to use a given mirror but they've > changed their filesystem layout, or someone gave you a bad baseurl, > you need only find the place where the headers/ dir lives. You can > usually do this in about 60 seconds with your favorite browser. > > I almost NEVER bother looking for a yum.conf snippet or documented > baseurl. I find it much faster to simply browse the repo looking > for the headers dir. > > I hope this is useful. Actually, I had asked for known good mirrors so...:-) I think you had good intentions, though. -- Cheers, Trey --- No lake so still but that it has its wave; No circle so perfect but that it has a blur. I would change things for you if I could; As I can't, you must take them as they are. -Han fei Tzu 21:26:46 up 4 days, 35 min, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.50, 0.92 Linux salamander 2.6.5 #1 SMP Mon Apr 5 01:03:13 PDT 2004 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From masterra at m-ra.net Sun May 2 01:27:32 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 20:27:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Synaptics In-Reply-To: <40944C25.8010100@qualcomm.com> References: <40944C25.8010100@qualcomm.com> Message-ID: Yep, it worked for me too. Sorry for posting about it - it was so easy :) I just compiled, put the lines in the xorg.conf, and it's working great. On Sat, 1 May 2004, Paul Bender wrote: > Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > Might be a bad question for this list, but anyone have an experience > > getting a synaptics touchpad to work under FC2Tx? I'm about to try, and > > just wondered if anyone had any hints.. especally now that we're using the > > Xorg xserver.. although i guess they both use the same drivers? > > The synaptics touchpad driver from > is working fine for me. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From cra at WPI.EDU Sun May 2 01:34:45 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 21:34:45 -0400 Subject: Annoying flashing in gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <20040502012436.VFOD10595.lakermmtao08.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> References: <20040502012436.VFOD10595.lakermmtao08.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <20040502013445.GA1866@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 09:24:36PM -0400, farzadb82 at cox.net wrote: > Does anyone have their whole screen flash when backspacing, when > there is nothing to backspace, in gnome-terminal ? That is called "visual bell", and it is handy for the hearing impaired or the easily annoyed :) .inputrc: set prefer-visible-bell set bell-style visible .tcshrc: set visiblebell .emacs: (setq visible-bell t) There should be a gnome-terminal setting for this, too, although I can't check right now... From balay at fastmail.fm Sun May 2 01:41:56 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 20:41:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: fc2t3: usb devices not accepting addresses, please confirm In-Reply-To: <234C9922.BAC7D26@mail.gmail.com> References: <223152EB.1449F089@mail.gmail.com> <1083455909.5412.29.camel@laptop.guyvdb.net> <234C9922.BAC7D26@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 May 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sun, 02 May 2004 01:58:29 +0200, Guy Van Den Bergh > wrote: > > > > > > Dunno whether this is the confirmation you were looking for, but anyway: > > > > I've seen this FC1 and FC2test2 on an Apacer USB card reader and LaCie > > USB harddisks, however only when I have been doing large transfers to > > it, like populating with another filesystem image, or copying large > > files to or from it. It looks like somehow the USB cardreader/disk is > > not responding anymore. Unplug and plug shows then the "not accepting > > new address". Only poweroff helped. > > fc1 on my production machine has not had one single problem with the > usb devices im trying to use on the test box. I use my cardreader > religuously to dump large collections of camera images to the > computer, never had it stop responding under fc1. I guess im going to > have to install fc1 on this test box and get a decent base line to > make sure its not some flaky mobo problem in the test box. There are a couple of releated issues in bugzilla for USB on FC2T3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122093 My issue is with an external USB hdd - it doesn't get reconized properly in FC2T3. The same harddisk has problems in FC1 as well. For one - the drivers misbehave after suspend/resume on my laptop - and then when it worked - it just crapped out when I ran iozone benchmark. There are quiet a few entries in bugzilla about usb issues - which haven't bee fixed in any update yet (so no bugzilla entry on this from me) Satish From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun May 2 01:47:44 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 21:47:44 -0400 Subject: test3 vs make xconfig In-Reply-To: <200405011910.20227.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <06F18AA1.3F0E89AE.005FFA64@netscape.net> <200405011751.36116.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200405011910.20227.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200405012147.44565.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 01 May 2004 19:10, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Saturday 01 May 2004 17:51, Gene Heskett wrote: >>On Saturday 01 May 2004 16:25, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: >>>Gene Heskett wrote: >>>>Greets all; >>>> >>>>I just ran a make xconfig on that fresh install of test3 on my >>>> shop box as I wanted to turn on a full fledged ISA bus scan >>>> since there are two custom made 8 bit ISA cards containing a few >>>> relays and apparently a whole 8 bit wide input port per card, >>>> and while I have what appears to be normal fonts elsewhere, all >>>> I get on the xconfig screen are gfx chars, little boxes of >>>> various shapes and half, quarter, and full moons in a character >>>> sized box. >>>> >>>>That box isn't on a network allthough it may be eventually when I >>>> can figure out howto get some cat5 run to the shop building. I >>>> hate digging ditches, been there, done that once already for >>>> power out there. >>>> >>>>Running gnome of course since there is apparently no terminals >>>>available if I switchdesk to kde. And it sure don't look like >>>> the kde I'm looking at here! >>>> >>>>How can I fix these fubared characters? >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Cheers, Gene >>> >>>Use qconfig. It's not broken. If you must use xconfig, an >>> anonymous poster in a 2.6.5 kernel forum recommended running >>> qtconfig. Deselect (turn off) the option labeled "Enable >>> Anti-Aliased Font Support (XFT)". It worked for me. >> >>Thanks Kam. If you are refering to "make qconfig", thats an error >> 2, no such option in the makefile or some such twaddle. >> >>When I arrived up the hill at the shop, and woke up the monitor(I'd >>left it running when I came down the hill to send the previous >> msg), the screen was trashed, and I had to exit x and restart it >> to clean up the screen (I'm using a blank screen as the >> screensaver). Now it seems to me the least fussy screensaver is a >> blank screen, needs little of no cpu. But this is test 3, so... >> >>That machine did pass about 3 full passes of memtest86 nice and >>cleanly. >> >>Next suggestion? Does a make menuconfig still work? > >One thing I hadn't noticed is that, first qtconfig was preset for > some utf8 font as the default, rather quickly changed to codepage > 437 which I also made the default compiled in font when I finally > got a "make xconfig" to run. > >That problem it turned out, was the fonts for starters, and the lack >of my copying in from the configs dir, a suitable starter .config. >Once that was done, everything seems normal, and a fresh kernel is >building as we type, probably take about an hour since its a 233 > PII, and only 128 megs of pc-100 dimm. Can you say sslloooowwwwww? > Time ./makeit bailed out without installing the modules, from the lack of that linkage from linux-2.6. My fault, and I can fix the makeit script. But the bailout was still 124 minutes! To build a bzImage and install it? Thats a bit like watching paint dry, really. Oil based at that. Sheesh. >For those with similar problems, run qtconfig and assign some >reasonable fonts, then make sure there is a copy of .config present >in the /usr/src/linux-2.6 tree. > >Humm, I noted, but didn't fix, the lack of a softlink named > linux-2.6 in the usr/src dir. Should I fix that? I did, but not before the script bailed out. I finished the job by hand, but on the reboot, the kernel panic'd, couldn't find the drives /boot partition. Its (hd0,0)... In both entries of grub.conf. Dbl checked my grub.conf, but it looks clean to me. Ideas anyone? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From mike at netlyncs.com Sun May 2 01:53:12 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 20:53:12 -0500 Subject: Network domain vs Virtual domain in httpd Message-ID: <1083462792.1695.5.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Running FC2T3 here (fresh install)... I have a domain name that is part of my home network that is registered. It worked just fine when trying to access it via http and getting the Fedora test page. I have now added a new registered domain as a virtual host and it works with no problems. Except now, the network domain name seems to show the same index page that my virtual host uses. Network domain.. http://www.netlyncs.com Virtual host.. http://www.mitchellracin.com You can see they go to the same page I guess. Here is the URL to my httpd.conf file, and maybe someone can see what I have configured wrong? http://www.netlyncs.com/~mike/httpd.conf -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From dennis at ausil.us Sun May 2 02:02:02 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:02:02 +1000 Subject: Network domain vs Virtual domain in httpd In-Reply-To: <1083462792.1695.5.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1083462792.1695.5.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <200405021202.03011.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Sunday 02 May 2004 11:53 am, Mike Chambers wrote: > Running FC2T3 here (fresh install)... > > I have a domain name that is part of my home network that is > registered. It worked just fine when trying to access it via http and > getting the Fedora test page. > > I have now added a new registered domain as a virtual host and it works > with no problems. Except now, the network domain name seems to show the > same index page that my virtual host uses. > > Network domain.. > http://www.netlyncs.com > > Virtual host.. > http://www.mitchellracin.com you need to setup a virtual host for both domains i usually setup one for www and one for root domain cause i hardley ever type in the www and i get annoyed when it doesnt work ServerAdmin webmaster at netlyncs.com DocumentRoot /var/www/html ServerName www.netlyncs.com ErrorLog logs/netlyncs-error_log CustomLog logs/netlyncs-access_log common ServerAdmin webmaster at netlyncs.com DocumentRoot /var/www/html ServerName netlyncs.com ErrorLog logs/netlyncs-error_log CustomLog logs/netlyncs-access_log common ServerAdmin webmaster at mitchellracin.com DocumentRoot /var/www/brad ServerName www.mitchellracin.com ErrorLog logs/mitchellracin-error_log CustomLog logs/mitchellracin-access_log common ServerAdmin webmaster at mitchellracin.com DocumentRoot /var/www/brad ServerName mitchellracin.com ErrorLog logs/mitchellracin-error_log CustomLog logs/mitchellracin-access_log common From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun May 2 02:04:34 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 22:04:34 -0400 Subject: Bug/status summary from my testing In-Reply-To: <20040501212642.GB27045@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040501212642.GB27045@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40945732.8030501@insight.rr.com> Alan Cox wrote: > Generally test3 is looking good, even on weirder setups including the > CyrixIII box. > > aacraid is broken on AMD64 (#122196) > release notes are broken (typos, and corners wrong at bottom) (#122199) > x86-64 install blows up upgrading x86-32 installation (#122201) > Bogus partition warning (#12204) > Broken display mode options (#122205) > One box needs mtrr fixups (upstream issue) > > Queued to retest > - NCR5380 is broken in older FC2test > - Atmel USB wireless is broken in older FC2test > - Acard ATP870U corrupts memory on older FC2test > - 3com 3c590 was not working in FC1/FC2test but was in RH9 or with Becker > driver. > - I2O support is broken (need to also test Markus patches not integrated) > > Then on to X stuff - via driver problems, voodoo driver missing etc. > > > Add scanner devices not getting the correct permissions to be recognized by xsane with the 2.6 kernel. With the 2.4 kernel, permissions were set to allow xsane to detect the scanner. (Bug 121511) A problem related to the kernel really slowing down a lot only happened to me when downloading the test 3 isos. I'm not sure if this was kernel related or intermittent harware pre-failure with my computer. Jim From mike at netlyncs.com Sun May 2 02:22:20 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 21:22:20 -0500 Subject: Network domain vs Virtual domain in httpd In-Reply-To: <200405021202.03011.dennis@ausil.us> References: <1083462792.1695.5.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> <200405021202.03011.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <1083464540.1695.7.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 21:02, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > you need to setup a virtual host for both domains i usually setup one for www > and one for root domain cause i hardley ever type in the www and i get > annoyed when it doesnt work Thanks, that did the trick. Now to find someone who is better at creating web pages to do a couple small ones for me hehe. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From notting at redhat.com Sun May 2 02:46:56 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 22:46:56 -0400 Subject: Three more test boxes, one new set of problems , one old In-Reply-To: <20040501000712.GA10433@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040501000712.GA10433@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040502024656.GC13958@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Alan Cox (alan at redhat.com) said: > Dual Opteron with dell obsidian quad ultra80 raid card. This blows up if there > are any volumes on the aacraid, but is fine if the aacraid has no disks. > It also blew up because the old disks I reused to avoid the aacraid both > had a /boot partition on them which it took offence too, and after I fixed > that it offered to upgrade my IA32 distro. I wasn't sure if this was supposed > to work so I hit upgrasde. It will warn you about it later and let you bail (roughly at the point right before it starts upgrading packages)... although it sounds like its crashing before then? It's definitely not 'supported' in the grand sense of the word. Bill From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 2 03:22:20 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 11:22:20 +0800 Subject: FC2t3/x86_64 DRI broken? In-Reply-To: <20040430233119.GA6472@osiris.silug.org> References: <20040430233119.GA6472@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <1083468140.15049.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 07:31, Steven Pritchard wrote: > So I just upgraded a x86_64 box to FC2 test3, and while glxinfo says I > have direct rendering, everything else seems to disagree... Neither > tuxracer or et.x86 will start, and glxgears only gives me 11 fps. > > I tried setting 'Option "AGPMode" "4"' to see if that would help... > It did get glxgears up to around 540 fps, but nothing else works. Since you mention it, I have the same thing (almost) occurring with my P4 (3.06,ht-disabled)/Radeon 9200 setup. direct rendering is on, but glxgears is at 20fps fullscreen. I bumped it up to AGP2x without any improvement, Then I enabled page flipping and that made things acceptable with glxgears fullscreen (1280x1024, 121.8 fps) and Tuxracer. Unreal Tournament 2004, however will start a game, but hang the system hard after about a second. Note my Radeon is not an SE, but instead a: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01) 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (Secondary) (rev 01) 01:00.0 Class 0300: 1002:5961 (rev 01) 01:00.1 Class 0380: 1002:5941 (rev 01) My AGP is: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 651 Host (rev 02) 00:00.0 Class 0600: 1039:0651 (rev 02) > Anyway, the system is a Rioworks HDAMC (AccelerTech "Hurricane 64" - > http://www.accelertech.com/products/motherboard/DK8X.php) with a > single 1.4GHz Opteron and a Radeon 9200SE. > > glxinfo output is below. I'd appreciate any suggestions. > > Steve > -- > Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. > Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ > Phone: (618)398-7360 Mobile: (618)567-7320 > > name of display: :0.0 > display: :0 screen: 0 > direct rendering: Yes > server glx vendor string: SGI > server glx version string: 1.2 > server glx extensions: > GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, > GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample > client glx vendor string: SGI > client glx version string: 1.2 > client glx extensions: > GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, > GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, > GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, > GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, > GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, > GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group > GLX extensions: > GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, > GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_swap_control, > GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_SGI_video_sync > OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc. > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20030328 AGP 4x TCL > OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 5.0.2 > OpenGL extensions: > GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, > GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, > GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, > GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, > GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, > GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, > GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, > GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, > GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_histogram, > GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, > GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, > GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, > GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, > GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, > GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_object, > GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, > GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, > GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, > GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_MESA_window_pos, > GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, > GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, > GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, > GL_SGIS_texture_lod > glu version: 1.3 > glu extensions: > GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess > > visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav > id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > 0x23 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None > 0x24 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None > 0x25 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow > 0x26 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow > 0x27 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None > 0x28 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None > 0x29 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow > 0x2a 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow > 0x2b 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None > 0x2c 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None > 0x2d 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow > 0x2e 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow > 0x2f 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None > 0x30 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None > 0x31 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow > 0x32 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow -- Chris Kloiber From gstool at earthlink.net Sun May 2 03:35:21 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 22:35:21 -0500 Subject: Desktop switching tool problem In-Reply-To: <1083455681.963.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> References: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> <4093B484.4040105@earthlink.net> <1083455681.963.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <40946C79.6010401@earthlink.net> David Collantes wrote: > On 5/1/2004 10:30 AM, Gerry Tool wrote: > >>> I just did a clean install of Test 3, all went well except in this >>> version, I can't get the desktop switching tool from the main menu to >>> work. It just goes off into the weeds and doesn't run. When I run >>> /user/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py, it says there is a syntax >>> problem in line 36. I ran /user/share/applications/switchdesk and, of >>> course, it runs switchdesk-gui.py with the same error. Any ideas? >>> >>> >> See >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121840 > > > Anyone knows where to get switchdesk-4.0.3-1? That bugzilla entry talks > about it being fixed on that one (4.0.3-1), but I have not been able to > find the package and up2date or yum do not see and update for 4.0.2-1, > which is what I have now. TIA! > > Cheers, > You can get switchdesk-gui-4.0.3-1 and switchdesk-4.0.3-1 from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ Gerry Tool From lynn at garlic.com Sun May 2 04:03:30 2004 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 22:03:30 -0600 Subject: FC3T3 grub hangs on brand new DELL 8300, fix with some BIOS settings In-Reply-To: <20040502020221.7C81174273@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040502020221.7C81174273@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083470610.22841.46.camel@lhwlinux> grub hangs on brand new DELL 8300, BIOS A05, two 250gbyte SATA drives, SATA raid controller, 4gbyte memory. SATA bios raid configuration not changed/touched. install from FC3T3 CDROM works w/o problem .. to simplify things all defaults used ... with all old partitions deleted. tested with and w/o BIOS limiting memory to 256mbytes. grub 0.94 diskette boots (built from a FC3T3 system on a dell 410) root tab sees fd0 & hd0 root (hd0, sees part0, type ext2f2/0x83 aka /boot & part1, type unknown/0x82 aka swap this is /dev/sda, first sata drive default config puts "/" on /dev/sdb, 2nd sata drive cdrom linux rescue boots and is able to mount /boot & / and can access/change files direct boot from harddisk, results in display "GRUB" and then nothing, power cycle is required. with grub diskette and setting root to hd0,0 then any attempt to read file hangs grub solid requiring power cycle. fstest doesn't turn up anything ioprobe results in reboot find a file in (hd0,0) i.e. /boot, hangs and requires power cycle boot vmlinuz file in (hd0,0) hangs and requires power cycle slashimage (hd0,0) file hangs and requires power cycle find a file that doesn't exists, comes back with file not found if SATA RAID array definitions are deleted, then no drives can be found by anybody. so you won't believe the solution. it would appear that FC2T3 ignores the SATA RAID definitions and directly accesses the physical devices (i.e. /dev/sda & /dev/sdb) ... while GRUB with HD0 .... (may?) goes thru the SATA RAID controller definition. The master boot record are enuf the same ... so that booting GRUB from the harddisk gets it to the point where it says GRUB. It appears that the work around is to try and make the SATA RAID definitions match the FC2T3 direct access to the device. In the SATA RAID BIOS setup, define two separate STRIPE arrays, each with one physical disk drive. (re-)install from cdrom, then things boot fine. From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun May 2 04:31:32 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 21:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OT:: kernel module gui in fedora? ::OT Message-ID: <20040502043133.50780.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- please forgive me for being off-topic... a couple questions: 1. is there any graphical utility to load and unload kernel modules in fedora? or is insmod, modprobe, and lsmod the only way to go about this? 2. is there any good explanation out (besides the Linux Kernel Module FAQ and the man pages) about linux kernel modules? i can find a lot of info out there about kernel module programming but i'd like something more intermediate... 3. is there any documentation about the particular kernel modules installed at runtime by default? i'm just trying to learn more about the linux kernel and i'd like to remove excess kernel modules (if possible) to save memory.. any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks, mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From w.steenburg at myactv.net Sun May 2 04:39:18 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 00:39:18 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 Shut down / reboot taking much longer to complete In-Reply-To: <3882EE0A.2C123363.005FFA64@netscape.net> References: <3882EE0A.2C123363.005FFA64@netscape.net> Message-ID: <1083472758.2847.1.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 16:54, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: > Wayne Steenburg wrote: > > >On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 01:13, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: > >> After upgrading from FC1 to FC2T3 the shuting down / reboot process is taking much longer to complete. The slow down begins when the message "Shutting down system logger" appears. Termiation of the process takes a minute or more. Then each of the following processes, "Shutting down interface eth0", "Shutting down loopback interface", and "Stopping iptables" exhibit similar behavior. Termination of these four processes takes minutes to complete. Whereas in the past it took only seconds. > >> > >> Firewall and iptables are enabled. SELinux is disabled. > >> > >> What is causing the slowdown? What do I need to do to get back the responsiveness of FC1? > >> > >If your /home directory is on a separate partition or you have the > >diskspace necessary to backup your data, I would try a fresh install > >instead of an upgrade. > > > > > > Thanks, that's the easy way out. I really want to know what is causing the problem. It's probably something the developers made to accomodate SELinux but haven't quite got working correctly. It would be nice if the developers could fix it before the official release. > > I understand. On my system (Soyo board with a KT-600 chipset) rebooting doesn't work. I've tried acpi=off apm=off and such to no avail. I'd like to have that work properly as well. From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sun May 2 06:21:13 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 01:21:13 -0500 Subject: FC2 Test 3 doesn't start PCMCIA NIC Message-ID: <200405020121.13978.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> I have an older PIII Dell Latitude that works fine with FC1. With FC2 Test 3, it will not start the PCMCIA NIC (PCNET_CS). If I remember correctly, it needs to start yenta, and its not. Byte From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sun May 2 06:23:23 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 01:23:23 -0500 Subject: Rebuilding kernel-source for NVIDIA drivers help! In-Reply-To: <1083454046.15052.10.camel@CirithUngol> References: <409422AE.50807@nullnetwork.com> <1083454046.15052.10.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <200405020123.23652.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Saturday 01 May 2004 18:27, Andrew Farris wrote: > Here is a quick response that may get you going. > > On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 00:20 +0200, fedora wrote: > > I'm trying to get NVIDIA drivers to work with FC2T3's kernel-2.6.5-1.327 > > -- no luck. Maybe you guys can tell me what am I doing wrong here, it > > will benefit a lot of people I presume. > > > > Here is what I did > > > > I downloaded kernel-2.6.5-1.327.src.rpm and > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.run > > > > 1. rpm -i kernel-2.6.5-1.327.src.rpm > > 2. commented out "Patch200: linux-2.6.5-nostack.patch" and "%patch200 > > -p1" from spec file (in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS) > > Fine so far -- but you need to also manually edit the config files to > remove the 4K stacks default value of y, you should set them to: > # CONFIG_4KSTACKS is not set > > If you do not use the minion.de patch, you MUST set register parameters > off as well: > # CONFIG_REGPARM is not set > > > 3. rebuilt kernel with: rpmbuild -bb > > /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec (It made the package: > > kernel-2.6.5-1.327.root.i386.rpm) <-- why the suffix? > > Suffix created to identify that this kernel was a custom built kernel, > you can change the behavior to be whatever you want in the spec... but > you should leave something on the end to know it is not the default > kernel (it makes no difference to its capabilities, etc...) > > %define release %(R="$Revision: 1.327 $"; RR="${R##: }"; echo > ${RR%%?})%{rhbsys} > > On the end you see, rhbsys, which in the previous statement is set to > your username by the 'whoami' command. > > > 4. installed new kernel-source: rpm -ivh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/ > > -it placed linux-2.6.5-1.327.root into /usr/src/ > > 5. did sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.run --add-this-kernel (built > > custom package) > > 6. tried running custom package: sh > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.custom.run, got error saying cannot find > > kernel-sources > > You must run that after you reboot to the target kernel, or specify that > you are not running the target. > --kernel-name=2.6.5-1.327.root > > > 7. specified kernel sources with sh > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1.custom.run > > --kernel-source-path=/usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.327.root > > 8. received error saying NVIDIA kernel was built with different > > kernel-source > > You may still need to specify the kernel-source-path, but the above is > the real issue. > -- > Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) > fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men > to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) I've had success with the above method also on my VIA Apollo Pro266T chipset. If I logout though, it hangs. It works fine if I do not logout. Which is okay for now. Byte From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sun May 2 07:35:40 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 02:35:40 -0500 Subject: konqueror SMB:/ browse error Message-ID: <200405020235.40854.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> When browsing password protected shares with knoqueror, I get the following message below: Internal Error Please send a full bug report at http://bugs.kde.org libsmbclient reported an error, but didn't specify what the problem is. This might indicate a severe problem with your network - but also might indicate a problem with libsmbclient. If you want to help us, please provide a tcpdump of the network interface while you try to browse (be aware that it might contain private data, so don't post it if you're unsure about that - you can send it privately to the developers if they ask for it) Byte From dsl at zai.com Sun May 2 00:37:39 2004 From: dsl at zai.com (David Lerner) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 20:37:39 -0400 Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD In-Reply-To: <20040501213035.D731173EE1@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040501213035.D731173EE1@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409442D3.9080804@zai.com> This is similar to a problem that was seen when installing Red Hat 9 on a HP DL-380. The CD is initially read by Syslinux using the BIOS to do CD I/O. The kernel and initrd are loaded and the kernel takes over. A bug in the ide driver prevented the kernel from detecting the CD drive. Subsequently the kernel could not find the CD that it booted from. There are a number of work arounds: 1. The CD can be NFS mounted on a different computer. A network install can then complete the install. 2. A a partition can be created on the disk with the contents of the first 2 or 3 CDs. This is cone with a rescue CD or with some other installed Linux system. The rest of the installation is then completed by selecting local hard disk for the installation medium. 3. Change the IDE connections for the CD-rom. Perhaps the kernel will be able to see the drive. Dave > Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 14:05:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: Stefan Lecho > Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <20040501210549.81704.qmail at web60004.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > When booting from the first CD of the Core2 Test3 > release, > the installation asks for the language and keyboard > settings. When the 'Local CDROM' is choosen as > installation media, the following message is > displayed: "No Fedora Core CD was found which matches > your boot media. Please insert the Fedora Core CD and > press ok." > > I've inserted all 4CDs, but without any succes. Could > anybody please help me with this issue ? > From A1tmblwd at netscape.net Sun May 2 08:07:52 2004 From: A1tmblwd at netscape.net (A1tmblwd at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 04:07:52 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 Shut down / reboot taking much longer to complete Message-ID: <377FEA2A.4657D9CC.005FFA64@netscape.net> Wayne Steenburg wrote: >On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 16:54, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: >> Wayne Steenburg wrote: >> >> >On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 01:13, A1tmblwd at netscape.net wrote: >> >> After upgrading from FC1 to FC2T3 the shuting down / reboot process is taking much longer to complete. The slow down begins when the message "Shutting down system logger" appears. Termiation of the process takes a minute or more. Then each of the following processes, "Shutting down interface eth0", "Shutting down loopback interface", and "Stopping iptables" exhibit similar behavior. Termination of these four processes takes minutes to complete. Whereas in the past it took only seconds. >> >> >> >> Firewall and iptables are enabled. SELinux is disabled. >> >> >> >> What is causing the slowdown? What do I need to do to get back the responsiveness of FC1? >> >> >> >If your /home directory is on a separate partition or you have the >> >diskspace necessary to backup your data, I would try a fresh install >> >instead of an upgrade. >> > >> > >> >> Thanks, that's the easy way out. I really want to know what is causing the problem. It's probably something the developers made to accomodate SELinux but haven't quite got working correctly. It would be nice if the developers could fix it before the official release. >> >> >I understand. On my system (Soyo board with a KT-600 chipset) rebooting >doesn't work. I've tried acpi=off apm=off and such to no avail. I'd >like to have that work properly as well. > I tried using system-config-securitylevel to turn off the firewall. This had no effect on the shutdown time. Found that running the utility re-enabled SELinux (already in bugzilla?) and that I need to "disable" SELinux before exiting the utility. Also disabling SELinux via system-config-securitylevel has not effect. On rebooting SELinux is still active. Need to add "selinux=0" to boot parameters in grub. I examined /etc/rc.d/init.d/network. The script on my FC2T3 system still has a reference to /etc/modules.conf. I think it should now reference modprobe.conf. Also the script differs from the one on my FC1 system as follows: 114d113 < unset DEVICE TYPE SLAVE BRIDGE 119d117 < unset DEVICE TYPE SLAVE BRIDGE 125d122 < unset DEVICE TYPE SLAVE BRIDGE 130d126 < unset DEVICE TYPE SLAVE BRIDGE 133d128 < unset DEVICE TYPE SLAVE BRIDGE 214d208 < unset DEVICE TYPE BRIDGE 219d212 < unset DEVICE TYPE BRIDGE 224d216 < unset DEVICE TYPE BRIDGE 227d218 < unset DEVICE TYPE BRIDGE Don't know what it all means. Could be just the differencs in the two motherboards. For all I know anaconda may not have even updated /etc/rc.d/init.d/network. The file has a Jan 28 date. __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From foolish at guezz.net Sun May 2 09:39:45 2004 From: foolish at guezz.net (Sindre Pedersen Bjordal) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 11:39:45 +0200 Subject: ntfs support In-Reply-To: <1083206415.24362.2.camel@orpheus.pcorp.com.au> References: <1083139465.2188.29.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083150256.6649.1.camel@tarkus> <1083151773.3847.25.camel@devel.mpeters.us> <1083155379.27002.23.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1083206415.24362.2.camel@orpheus.pcorp.com.au> Message-ID: <1083490785.2475.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> tor, 29.04.2004 kl. 04.40 skrev Iain Buchanan: > On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 21:59, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 07:29, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > > On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 04:04, Ted Kaczmarek wrote: > > > > > > > > Why does it have to be compiled into the kernel? > > > > Is it no longer loadable as a module? > > > > > [snip] > > > Well - it was still a module in the 2.6.3 vanilla anyway - so I highly > > > doubt it isn't a module now. > > > > Not a supplied module now: > > it never was supplied as a module in Fedora. I don't remember when it > was taken out of redhat, if it was ever supplied as a pre-built module > (although my memory isn't good :) > > Its always been in the kernel source though, redhat patched or vanilla. I have always used the modules from http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/, is there anything in Core 2 that will prevent the use such packages? I really hope we won't have to deal with any thing harder than this: 1. install the rpm, 2. modprobe the module 3. mount the partition -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dette er en digitalt signert meldingsdel URL: From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Sun May 2 10:00:50 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 13:00:50 +0300 Subject: ntfs support In-Reply-To: <1083490785.2475.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083139465.2188.29.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083150256.6649.1.camel@tarkus> <1083151773.3847.25.camel@devel.mpeters.us> <1083155379.27002.23.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1083206415.24362.2.camel@orpheus.pcorp.com.au> <1083490785.2475.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083492049.2603.11.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 12:39, Sindre Pedersen Bjordal wrote: > I have always used the modules from http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/, > is there anything in Core 2 that will prevent the use such packages? > I really hope we won't have to deal with any thing harder than this: > > 1. install the rpm, > 2. modprobe the module > 3. mount the partition > > ______________________________________________________________________ I doubt that you will be getting these modules until Core 2 is released. The site is for end users, not testers and not developers. From stlecho at yahoo.com Sun May 2 11:39:23 2004 From: stlecho at yahoo.com (Stefan Lecho) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 04:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD Message-ID: <20040502113923.98081.qmail@web60007.mail.yahoo.com> Using the proposed solution in the release notes (pci=off idel=0x180,0x386), leads to the following error message: "EIP is at pci_read 0x1a/0x21 ... Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init" Hardware: Pentium 4HT 3.0GHz Motherboard: ASUS P4C800 HD: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus9 160GB SATA DVD: LG GSA-4040B __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 2 10:09:26 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 12:09:26 +0200 Subject: ntfs support In-Reply-To: <1083492049.2603.11.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <1083139465.2188.29.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083150256.6649.1.camel@tarkus> <1083151773.3847.25.camel@devel.mpeters.us> <1083155379.27002.23.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1083206415.24362.2.camel@orpheus.pcorp.com.au> <1083490785.2475.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083492049.2603.11.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <4094C8D6.6090007@gmx.de> shmuel siegel wrote: >On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 12:39, Sindre Pedersen Bjordal wrote: > > >>I have always used the modules from http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/, >>is there anything in Core 2 that will prevent the use such packages? >> >> >I doubt that you will be getting these modules until Core 2 is released. >The site is for end users, not testers and not developers. > > http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html I shall release RPMs for Fedora 2, when they make their official release (which should be pretty soon). -- shrek-m From fedora at nullnetwork.com Sun May 2 09:14:30 2004 From: fedora at nullnetwork.com (fedora) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 11:14:30 +0200 Subject: Rebuilding kernel-source for NVIDIA drivers help! Message-ID: <4094BBF6.8020604@nullnetwork.com> Thanks for the tips guys, however my config does not contain CONFIG_4KSTACKS nor CONFIG_REGPARM. Should I just add it in and comment it out? Cheers From guy.veraghtert at student.kuleuven.ac.be Sun May 2 12:00:29 2004 From: guy.veraghtert at student.kuleuven.ac.be (Guy Veraghtert) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 14:00:29 +0200 Subject: OT:: kernel module gui in fedora? ::OT In-Reply-To: <20040502113941.CBC5B740E0@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040502113941.CBC5B740E0@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083499228.2878.9.camel@foo.kotnet.org> On Sat, 1 May 2004 21:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Mark Fonnemann wrote: [snip] >2. is there any good explanation out (besides the Linux Kernel Module >FAQ and >the man pages) about linux kernel modules? i can find a lot of info out >there >about kernel module programming but i'd like something more >intermediate... [snip] Short introduction to Linux Kernel Modules (LKM): http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/1019/1/ and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Module-HOWTO/ Kernel hacking guide: device drivers http://www.tldp.org/LDP/khg/HyperNews/get/devices/devices.html Linux device drivers (2nd ed.), Alessandro Rubini online version: http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/ (a must read :-) ) greets guy From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun May 2 11:58:09 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 06:58:09 -0500 Subject: Annoying flashing in gnome-terminal In-Reply-To: <20040502012436.VFOD10595.lakermmtao08.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> References: <20040502012436.VFOD10595.lakermmtao08.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <4094E251.7000500@sbcglobal.net> farzadb82 at cox.net wrote: >Does anyone have their whole screen flash when backspacing, when there is nothing to backspace, in gnome-terminal ? > >If I press the backspace button in a new terminal window, when there is nothing to backspace, the whole screen flashes as if it's being redrawn slowly. > >I'm running a Celeron 800, GA686BXS board w/t a Voodoo3 2000 AGP video, PCI SB 128 and a PCI 10/100 network card (Generic RTL8139). > > > > > I have flashing problem when I'am in KDE/Mozilla mail, anytime i click on delete a email the email window flashes like it's refreshing. Jim Tate From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun May 2 11:45:49 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 13:45:49 +0200 Subject: ARRGH! Metacity is killing me. In-Reply-To: <1083300174.24911.7.camel@CirithUngol> References: <20040430041143.GA2113@jadzia.bu.edu> <1083299232.9256.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083300174.24911.7.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1083498349.5228.2.camel@littlePiet> Am Fr, den 30.04.2004 schrieb Andrew Farris um 06:42: > You should investigate XFCE4 which does a very nice job of mixing 'light > weight' configurable managers with 'gnome-esque' niceties. I am > currently running XFCE4 with the gnome-panel as well, its very nice > (full vfs menus at my disposal and all the tweaking I desire). Could you post a short hint how to install it? I know, it is on CD 4. But I couldn't install due to a lot of dependency problems. Thanks Peter From alan at redhat.com Sun May 2 12:47:40 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 08:47:40 -0400 Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD In-Reply-To: <20040502113923.98081.qmail@web60007.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040502113923.98081.qmail@web60007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040502124740.GC10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 04:39:23AM -0700, Stefan Lecho wrote: > Using the proposed solution in the release notes > (pci=off idel=0x180,0x386), leads to the following > error message: "EIP is at pci_read 0x1a/0x21 ... > Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init" Duplicated. The PCI layer in test3 is being called even when PCI methods are not available: pcibios_irq_init pirq_peer_trick .. boom This prevents installation on things like older sony Vaio boxes. Someone broke the handling of machines without PCI between test2 and test3. Alan From alan at redhat.com Sun May 2 12:55:43 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 08:55:43 -0400 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 01:40:26AM +0300, shmuel siegel wrote: > Are there any updates on why systems hang when tux racer is run. The > best that I can see from bugzilla is that some people think that it is a > kernel problem and not an X problem. Tux racer runs on the radeon nicely. I've just been trying to get the i810 DRI running but that appears not even to get configured by the installer (not in bugzilla just yet). > If it helps anybody it happens on my system too > running .327 with Selinux in permissive mode. selinux ought not to matter here (you might try selinux=off anyway). Does the following hang glxinfo and if not does it show Direct rendering enabled ? From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun May 2 13:24:12 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 08:24:12 -0500 Subject: What format to Print??? Message-ID: <4094F67C.20506@sbcglobal.net> Downloading these D--n PDF files and trying to print them, the fonts are so small that it takes a magnifing glass to read them. HOW to print in larger print. Please help Jim Tate From kirillov at math.sunysb.edu Sun May 2 13:52:35 2004 From: kirillov at math.sunysb.edu (Alexander Kirillov) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 09:52:35 -0400 Subject: hotplugging USB disk on key: incorrect fstab entry Message-ID: <1083505955.2356.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have a problem with USB disk on key (Lexar Jumpdrive) in test 3: after insertion, hotplug recognizes the drive and adds an entry to /etc/fstab like this: /dev/sda /mnt/diskonkey auto .... This is incorrect, and as a result, clicking on the icon in GNOME's "Computer" or manually mounting via mount /mnt/diskonkey returns error. Correct entry should be /dev/sda1 /mnt/diskonkey auto .... ^^^^ After editing fstab manually, everything works fine. Anyone else has seen this problem? Should I bugzilla it? (this is on a Dell Latitude D600 laptop) Sasha From robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl Sun May 2 13:56:20 2004 From: robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl (Rob van Nieuwkerk) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 15:56:20 +0200 Subject: development (rawhide) archives messed up? In-Reply-To: <20040501191342.55f8eebb.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> References: <20040501165859.GA18441@wolves.durham.nc.us> <20040501191342.55f8eebb.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> Message-ID: <20040502155620.1c1016df.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> On Sat, 1 May 2004 19:13:42 +0200 Rob van Nieuwkerk wrote: > On Sat, 1 May 2004 12:58:59 -0400 > Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > Hi Gregory, > > > Did redhat mess up the development(rawhide) archives for FC2t3? > > > > My latest rsync removed the headers and found a "buildinstall.dir" > > > > This is with two different mirrors. Is it just a time artifact? > > It is a problem on Red Hat's master servers so it will propagate to all > mirrors .. I already informed them, but no reaction yet. No idea when > things will be fixed. FYI: Bill Nottingham has fixed the problem. The tree on the master servers is OK again and the mirrors will catch up (or did already). (my mirror ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/ is in sync). greetings, Rob van Nieuwkerk From dennis at ausil.us Sun May 2 13:56:32 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 23:56:32 +1000 Subject: hotplugging USB disk on key: incorrect fstab entry In-Reply-To: <1083505955.2356.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083505955.2356.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405022356.32039.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Sunday 02 May 2004 11:52 pm, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > I have a problem with USB disk on key (Lexar Jumpdrive) in test 3: > after insertion, hotplug recognizes the drive and adds an entry to > /etc/fstab like this: > /dev/sda /mnt/diskonkey auto .... > > This is incorrect, and as a result, clicking on the icon in GNOME's > "Computer" or manually mounting via mount /mnt/diskonkey returns error. > Correct entry should be > > /dev/sda1 /mnt/diskonkey auto .... > ^^^^ > After editing fstab manually, everything works fine. Anyone else has > seen this problem? Should I bugzilla it? > > (this is on a Dell Latitude D600 laptop) > Sasha i would bugzilla it but the problem is that some use /dev/sda and others /dev/sda1 i think the newer and the biggerones tend to use /dev/sda though im not sure if that is entirely accurate. i have three different USB disk keys and all use /dev/sda1 though i usually just put the entry is /etc/fstab and leave it be Dennis From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Sun May 2 14:06:55 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 17:06:55 +0300 Subject: hotplugging USB disk on key: incorrect fstab entry In-Reply-To: <200405022356.32039.dennis@ausil.us> References: <1083505955.2356.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405022356.32039.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <1083506815.2603.15.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 16:56, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Once upon a time Sunday 02 May 2004 11:52 pm, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > i would bugzilla it but the problem is that some use /dev/sda and > others /dev/sda1 i think the newer and the biggerones tend to use /dev/sda > though im not sure if that is entirely accurate. i have three different USB > disk keys and all use /dev/sda1 though i usually just put the entry > is /etc/fstab and leave it be > > Dennis > In my case it is more complicated. Out of the box it was using sda and using the whole disk. After I formatted it, it required sda1 and sda2. So either way would have caused me problems at some point in time. From ken at bizrace.com Sun May 2 14:42:57 2004 From: ken at bizrace.com (Ken VanDine) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 10:42:57 -0400 Subject: Network domain vs Virtual domain in httpd In-Reply-To: <1083462792.1695.5.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> References: <1083462792.1695.5.camel@bart.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1083508975.8943.2.camel@mounds> You need to add entries for both sites as virtual sites. The first virtual host becomes the default (for unmatched requests). When you use virtual hosts it ignores the generic DocumentRoot and only uses the virtual ones. --Ken On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 21:53, Mike Chambers wrote: > Running FC2T3 here (fresh install)... > > I have a domain name that is part of my home network that is > registered. It worked just fine when trying to access it via http and > getting the Fedora test page. > > I have now added a new registered domain as a virtual host and it works > with no problems. Except now, the network domain name seems to show the > same index page that my virtual host uses. > > Network domain.. > http://www.netlyncs.com > > Virtual host.. > http://www.mitchellracin.com > > You can see they go to the same page I guess. > > Here is the URL to my httpd.conf file, and maybe someone can see what I > have configured wrong? > > http://www.netlyncs.com/~mike/httpd.conf > > -- > Mike Chambers > Madisonville, KY > > "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" > From mk3ricks at comcast.net Sun May 2 14:54:00 2004 From: mk3ricks at comcast.net (michael) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 09:54:00 -0500 Subject: sata_sil-3114 Message-ID: <200405020954.00234.mk3ricks@comcast.net> currently the Installer in Fedora Core 2 Test 3 doesn't recognize the 3114 chipset during install (should I be passing in some options in the boot prompt) there have been post that say Test core 2 had this module but I cant find it there either. Also...to Si Jones I have used your post has a template seeing that you to are experiencing the same install issues please contact me From dave at webaugur.com Sun May 2 15:13:02 2004 From: dave at webaugur.com (David L Norris) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 10:13:02 -0500 Subject: fc2t3: usb devices not accepting addresses, please confirm In-Reply-To: <223152EB.1449F089@mail.gmail.com> References: <223152EB.1449F089@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1083510781.23811.148.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 16:32, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > For my sanDisk Imagemate SDDR-31 flashcard usb reader i get these > messages in the /var/log/messages file when i plugin the usb device: > May 1 17:16:32 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device > using address 6 > May 1 17:16:33 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: device not accepting address > 6, error -71 > May 1 17:16:33 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device > using address 7 > May 1 17:16:34 testbed kernel: usb 1-1: device not accepting address > 7, error -84 When I attach my SDDR-31 I get this in /var/log/messages: May 1 20:00:25 Daneel kernel: usb 4-2.1: new full speed USB device using address 9 May 1 20:00:25 Daneel kernel: scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices May 1 20:00:26 Daneel kernel: Vendor: SanDisk Model: ImageMate II Rev: 1.30 May 1 20:00:26 Daneel kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 May 1 20:00:26 Daneel kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 May 1 20:00:26 Daneel kernel: Device not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. May 1 20:00:27 Daneel scsi.agent[4952]: disk at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.2/usb4/4-2/4-2.1/4-2.1:1.0/host5/5:0:0:0 May 1 20:00:32 Daneel kernel: Device not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. It seems to work properly. I tested it last night after updating. I'm running test3 updated to the development tree on kernel 2.6.5-1.327. I've been dual-booting to test3 in the evenings on my primary machine. Probably unrelated but sometimes all of my USB storage devices disappear from fstab. I can connect and disconnect devices over and over without any problems. But it seems like when I'm not looking the USB devices will disappear from fstab and Computer. However they are listed as attached in /var/log/messages and I can manually mount them. It seems like this happens when I unplug a storage device. But I haven't been able to prove it much beyond conjecture. -- David Norris http://www.webaugur.com/dave/ ICQ - 412039 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From yonasb at netzero.com Sun May 2 15:29:59 2004 From: yonasb at netzero.com (yonas abraham) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 11:29:59 -0400 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409513F7.2070607@netzero.com> I am one of the ppls who have taxracer problems. I am using inter i845 card. In FC2T1 taxracer was working fine. In FC2T2 taxracer, glxgears used to hang and I was forced to hard boot. in FC2T3 taxracer or glxgears no longer crash but taxracer runs veryyyyy slow and it is useless. glxinfo reports that direct rendering is not enabled. I have also "libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering" i have read the man for DRI and to solve this libGL problem is to add the following line in xorg.conf Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection But this was there by defalt and still did not solved. --yonasb Alan Cox wrote: >On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 01:40:26AM +0300, shmuel siegel wrote: > > >>Are there any updates on why systems hang when tux racer is run. The >>best that I can see from bugzilla is that some people think that it is a >>kernel problem and not an X problem. >> >> > >Tux racer runs on the radeon nicely. I've just been trying to get the >i810 DRI running but that appears not even to get configured by the >installer (not in bugzilla just yet). > > > >>If it helps anybody it happens on my system too >>running .327 with Selinux in permissive mode. >> >> > >selinux ought not to matter here (you might try selinux=off anyway). >Does the following hang > > glxinfo > >and if not does it show Direct rendering enabled ? > > > > From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Sun May 2 15:36:19 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:36:19 +0300 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 15:55, Alan Cox wrote: > Does the following hang > > glxinfo > > and if not does it show Direct rendering enabled ? > glxinfo runs. Says that direct rendering is enabled. glxgears brings up a window and then hangs. Requiring a hard boot. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun May 2 16:20:35 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 12:20:35 -0400 Subject: kernel-2.6.5-1.332 dragging feet In-Reply-To: <408F0487.6000009@insight.rr.com> References: <408F0487.6000009@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <40951FD3.5090209@insight.rr.com> Since the kernel was reverted to an earlier version in Rawhide. I closed the bug report for this error. I am still using the version, but did not have a repeated problem with normal usage. For the next DL of Fedora, I guess it is best to use the older *.327 version. (Still available) Has anyone tried out the *.332 version under heavy loading? Kernel *.327 under heavy loading? Jim Jim Cornette wrote: > I am downloading the test 3 isos now and experienced a system slowdown. > I got errors to dmesg that were repetative and slowed down the system a > lot. > > The computer was not locked up, but slow as > > The bug that I filed was the below. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121812 > > I could not find one similar. So I filed new. Is this a duplicate? Bug #? > > Jim > > ---------------------------- > > the chorus: > swapper: page allocation failure. order:1, mode:0x20 > Call Trace: > [<0213fbd3>] __alloc_pages+0x277/0x284 > [<0213fbf8>] __get_free_pages+0x18/0x24 > [<02143be5>] cache_grow+0x16b/0x3e0 > [<021265e7>] update_wall_time+0x9/0x31 > [<0214420f>] cache_alloc_refill+0x3b5/0x3f1 > [<02144878>] __kmalloc+0x8d/0x189 > [<02284cb8>] alloc_skb+0x32/0xc3 > [<228f00fd>] ei_receive+0x157/0x26c [8390] > [<228f027e>] ei_rx_overrun+0x6c/0x8e [8390] > [<228efc14>] ei_interrupt+0x1c0/0x323 [8390] > [<02107c42>] handle_IRQ_event+0x28/0x48 > [<0210812e>] do_IRQ+0x1be/0x303 > ======================= > [<0210403b>] default_idle+0x23/0x26 > [<0210408c>] cpu_idle+0x1f/0x34 > [<023836b6>] start_kernel+0x218/0x21b > > From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun May 2 16:27:54 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:27:54 -0400 Subject: fc2t3: usb devices not accepting addresses, please confirm In-Reply-To: <1083510781.23811.148.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> References: <223152EB.1449F089@mail.gmail.com> <1083510781.23811.148.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> Message-ID: <26C1A4CE.5F66C997@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 02 May 2004 10:13:02 -0500, David L Norris wrote: > When I attach my SDDR-31 I get this in /var/log/messages: > Thanks for the confirmation, i'm pretty convinced my problem is a hardware problem with my test box and not a software bug. -jef From csm at moongroup.com Sun May 2 17:01:58 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 13:01:58 -0400 Subject: troubles with nautilus on x86_64 Message-ID: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com> So night before last I installed FC2T3 on an Athlon64 3000+ with a k8v deluxe motherboard. Gnome has been a problem as nautilus dies when it tries to start. I have a bug report (see attached) for that which is going into bugzilla shortly. But after looking at the issue I thought, "Alright... let me recompile the src.rpm's for nautilus and see what happens." There are 3 of these rpms: nautilus-2.6.0-4.src.rpm nautilus-cd-burner-2.6.0-1.src.rpm nautilus-media-0.8.0-1.src.rpm The first two build without a problem but the 3rd one will not. Here is the failure: gcc -O2 -g -pipe -o nautilus-audio-view audio-play.o audio-view.o nautilus-audio-view.o main.o -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,--export-dynamic -L/usr/X11R6/lib64 -lnautilus -leel-2 -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lgailutil -lglade-2.0 -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 /usr/lib/libpopt.so -lart_lgpl_2 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lbonobo-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-activation ../media-info/.libs/libgstmedia-info.a -pthread -lgstgconf-0.8 -lgconf-2 -lORBit-2 -lgstreamer-0.8 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lgthread-2.0 -lxml2 -lpthread -lz -lm -lglib-2.0 /usr/lib/libpopt.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [nautilus-audio-view] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/csm/redhat/BUILD/nautilus-media-0.8.0/audio-view' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/csm/redhat/BUILD/nautilus-media-0.8.0' make: *** [all] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.47643 (%build) So to be certain there was nothing wrong with rpm I rebuilt and installed all of it's rpms and repeated the process which generated the exact same error. Does anyone have any recommendations for getting nautilus-media to build? It seems odd to me that it built for the release but not for me here on a live machine. FYI everything is completely stock though I have not yet been able to get sound working on this box. It has an sblive! card in it instead of using the on board sound card (which I may try later if I cannot get the sblive! working). -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From csm at moongroup.com Sun May 2 17:03:25 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 13:03:25 -0400 Subject: troubles with nautilus on x86_64 In-Reply-To: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com> References: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <409529DD.3030505@moongroup.com> Chuck Mead wrote: > So night before last I installed FC2T3 on an Athlon64 3000+ with a k8v > deluxe motherboard. Gnome has been a problem as nautilus dies when it > tries to start. I have a bug report (see attached) for that which is > going into bugzilla shortly. I forgot to attach the bug report. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: nautilus-crash URL: From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Sun May 2 16:55:31 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 09:55:31 -0700 Subject: Adding packages via yum In-Reply-To: <1083461404.9555.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083296864.22518.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4091D191.8000307@clarkson.edu> <1083330322.2151.9.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> <1083444548.9549.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040501223109.GG30709@ece.arizona.edu> <1083461404.9555.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040502165530.GA6493@ece.arizona.edu> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 09:30:04PM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 18:31, Michael Stenner wrote: > > On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 04:49:08PM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote: > > > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 09:05, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > > > Well, I've been using the yum.conf I've posted earlier in the thread, > > > and I'm still getting 'retrygrab() failed for:' messages on all my > > > mirrors. Someone have a yum.conf that's working for them that I could > > > try? > > > > A couple of notes: > > > I didn't say adding a baseurl WAS mysterious. Agreed. My original email (and this one, too) should be interpreted as inspired by you, but directed to the community. > Actually, I had asked for known good mirrors so...:-) Well, some of the mirrors in that config file ARE good mirrors (meaning the server has all the files you want). They simply have the wrong baseurls. A 404 USUALLY just means that someone made a typo or that the mirror layout got rearranged. > I think you had good intentions, though. I did, indeed :) -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From saphipps at mchsi.com Sun May 2 17:16:39 2004 From: saphipps at mchsi.com (Scott A Phipps) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 12:16:39 -0500 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 10:36, shmuel siegel wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 15:55, Alan Cox wrote: > > Does the following hang > > > > glxinfo > > > > and if not does it show Direct rendering enabled ? > > > > glxinfo runs. Says that direct rendering is enabled. glxgears brings up > a window and then hangs. Requiring a hard boot. > I am also having similar problems. I have a machine with a radeon 7500 all-in-wonder that I installed test 3 on, and anything gl related will lock the box up hard. It also locks up hard sometimes while starting X up. From joe at tmsusa.com Sun May 2 17:26:46 2004 From: joe at tmsusa.com (joe) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 10:26:46 -0700 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40952F56.7070605@tmsusa.com> Scott A Phipps wrote: > >I am also having similar problems. I have a machine with a radeon 7500 >all-in-wonder that I installed test 3 on, and anything gl related will >lock the box up hard. It also locks up hard sometimes while starting X >up. > > This is sad to hear, since this is the state of things that I found in the 2001 timeframe. With a radeon, my system would lock up hard, requiring the power button, every single time I launched a game of return to castle wolfenstein. I finally lost patience, installed an nvidia, along with the evil proprietary nvidia 3D drivers, and the box has been rock solid ever since - through upgrades from rh 7.2-> rh 7.3-> rh8.0-> rh9-> FC1, not a single crash, though it has alternated through long periods of q3a, RtCW, 3D screensavers, watching movies, surfing the web, and recently, many hours of ut2004. In my experience using ATI cards for 3D under linux leads to loss of hair, and high blood pressure. Jut my .02 Joe From saphipps at mchsi.com Sun May 2 17:36:54 2004 From: saphipps at mchsi.com (Scott A Phipps) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 12:36:54 -0500 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <40952F56.7070605@tmsusa.com> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40952F56.7070605@tmsusa.com> Message-ID: <1083519414.20639.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> > In my experience using ATI cards for 3D under linux leads to loss of > hair, and high blood pressure. I've had the same card in the machine, and never had a problem with RH 8/9 or FC 1. I've played quake and other 3d games just fine, and never had a problem at all until now. From greg at gulik.org Sun May 2 17:44:13 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 12:44:13 -0500 Subject: Touch pad on Dell i8100 no longer tap pad for mouse click Message-ID: <4095336D.6090009@gulik.org> I know this used to work on FC1 but under FC2T3 I can no longer give a quick tap to the track pad as an alternate way to click mouse button 1. Is there a setting that changed or is this a bug? Here is the relavant stuff from dmesg about my mouse device: mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1 Firmware: 5.7 180 degree mounted touchpad Sensor: 1 new absolute packet format Touchpad has extended capability bits -> multifinger detection -> palm detection -> pass-through port input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio1 serio: Synaptics pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0 input: PS/2 Generic Mouse on synaptics-pt/serio0 -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From tim+redhat.com at coote.org Sun May 2 17:54:19 2004 From: tim+redhat.com at coote.org (tim+redhat.com at coote.org) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 18:54:19 +0100 Subject: centrino wifi support Message-ID: <20040502175419.GA22322@fw.coote.org> Hullo I just know that this is going to be a potential minefield, so let me reassure everyone that this is meant with the best of intentions. Like many people, I've got a centrino based laptop and I want to use wifi when I've got it booted as a Linux device. Although Intel has started to support an open source driver for the centrino wifi, this is still not as mature as the ndiswrapper driver (in fact, I can't use it at all as I need ad-hoc mode). Unfortunately, the latter driver can't handle the new 4k stack pages that 2.6 is moving to and that have already been removed form the Fedora test distribution. I don't know whether this problem with 4k stacks is to do with the ndiswrapper itself, or the windows drivers that it's encapsulating. I had a similar problem with Nvidia's nvidia driver that I eventually got around by using the xorg nv driver and futzing with the default install (which only gives a 640x480 screen, which is too small to handle the UI - you lose many of the buttons on applications). I know that 2.6.6 is planned to only support 4k stacks when it's released. However, lack of wifi in particular reduces the testing that I can do on the rest of FC2 and will slow down deployment of FC2 if it's released on 2.6.6. (it's unclear to me whether the kernel and fc2 roadmaps make this likely or not.) I don't see what 2.6.6 support in FC2 buys me, but it's pretty clear what I'll lose, in the near term at least. Tim From alan at redhat.com Sun May 2 17:54:44 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 13:54:44 -0400 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040502175444.GA1995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 12:16:39PM -0500, Scott A Phipps wrote: > I am also having similar problems. I have a machine with a radeon 7500 > all-in-wonder that I installed test 3 on, and anything gl related will > lock the box up hard. It also locks up hard sometimes while starting X > up. Was this stable with FC1/RH9 etc or not ? From joe at tmsusa.com Sun May 2 18:02:46 2004 From: joe at tmsusa.com (joe) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 11:02:46 -0700 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <1083519414.20639.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40952F56.7070605@tmsusa.com> <1083519414.20639.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <409537C6.8060808@tmsusa.com> Scott A Phipps wrote: >>In my experience using ATI cards for 3D under linux leads to loss of >>hair, and high blood pressure. >> >> > > >I've had the same card in the machine, and never had a problem with RH >8/9 or FC 1. I've played quake and other 3d games just fine, and never >had a problem at all until now. > > So perhaps this problem is something new? That's possible... although, I did see the same old ATI crashing issues on an FC1 box that I set up a few months ago, in this case it was an ATI rage 128. To my disappointment, the box would suddenly crash without warning, when running certain 3D screensavers. After disabling DRI, I didn't see any more crashes, and the box has been stable since then. BTW I don't see such problems with e.g. nvidia cards, or even voodoo 3 cards, or onboard intel i8x0 video. Just a data point for your consideration, Joe From ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org Sun May 2 18:07:23 2004 From: ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org (Steven P. Ulrick) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 13:07:23 -0500 Subject: Adding fc2trc to Grub menu Message-ID: <20040502130723.42e2e178.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> Hello, Everyone :) I did all I reasonbly could to answer this on my own, and I found no applicable information. Here's the scenario: I have four devices hooked up to the two ide busses on my motherboard. They could be described something like this: primary master: Western Digital 120 gig HD primary slave: CD-ROM, indeterminate origin Secondary Master: Maxtor 120 gig HD Secondary Slave: Maxtor 40 gig HD I have grub installed on the master boot record, but I installed FC2TR3 on the Secondary Slave, and chose to install GRUB on that disc, so my main systems GRUB configuration would not get wiped out. What I would like to do is either burn a CD that would boot right to my Fedora Core 2 test release 3 installation, like a boot floppy used to when we could make those. Or, I would like to add my Secondary Slave (I'm ASSUMING it is "hd3", since my grub.conf says that the location of my kernels is (hd0,0)) to my GRUB boot menu. The following is my grub.conf, with one kernel from my Fedora Core 1 installation, and my attempt at booting FC2TR3 being the only entries I'm going to burden you with :): #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.4.22-1.2188.nptl) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2188.nptl ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb initrd /initrd-2.4.22-1.2188.nptl.img title Fedora Core 2tr3 (2.6.5-1.327) root (hd2,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img Here, I hope, is the /boot directory that I got the 2tr3 information from: grub/ lost+found/ boot.b chain.b config-2.6.5-1.327 initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img memtest86+-1.11 os2_d.b System.map-2.6.5-1.327 vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 I have (hd2,1) in my "root" line in grub.conf, but that is just the last guess I made at trying to get this to work on my own. I tried (hd3,0) and (hd3,1), and nothing worked. If this has been answered elsewhere, please feel free to just give me a link to where it's been answered, and I'll be glad to take it from there. Of course, if I can't figure it out then, THEN I'll come back to the experts (you, of course :)) Have a Great Day :) Steven P. Ulrick From saphipps at mchsi.com Sun May 2 18:08:30 2004 From: saphipps at mchsi.com (Scott A Phipps) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 13:08:30 -0500 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <20040502175444.GA1995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040502175444.GA1995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083521310.20639.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 12:54, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 12:16:39PM -0500, Scott A Phipps wrote: > > I am also having similar problems. I have a machine with a radeon 7500 > > all-in-wonder that I installed test 3 on, and anything gl related will > > lock the box up hard. It also locks up hard sometimes while starting X > > up. > > Was this stable with FC1/RH9 etc or not ? > Yea, it was stable on both FC1 and RH9 From stlecho at yahoo.com Sun May 2 18:16:27 2004 From: stlecho at yahoo.com (Stefan Lecho) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 11:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Core2Test3] Hard disk installation Message-ID: <20040502181627.77972.qmail@web60003.mail.yahoo.com> After booting from the first installation CD and selecting harddisk as installation source, the following message is generated: "The Fedora Core installation tree in that directory does not seem to match your boot media." I've copied the downloaded iso images to a FAT32 partition and selected that as installation source. How should the installation tree look like? Regards, Stefan Lecho. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From privat at trond-danielsen.org Sun May 2 18:27:44 2004 From: privat at trond-danielsen.org (Trond Danielsen) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:27:44 +0200 Subject: rpm-db broken after last "yum update" Message-ID: <40953DA0.2060306@trond-danielsen.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Just ran a yum update, and now my rpmdb is broken, gone or at least not accessible.... Packages update by yum: 05/02/04 12:30:03 Updated: policy-sources 1.11.2-21.noarch 05/02/04 12:30:03 Updated: kudzu 1.1.58-1.i386 05/02/04 12:30:03 Updated: policy 1.11.2-21.noarch 05/02/04 12:30:03 Updated: rpmdb-fedora 1:1.92-0.20040502.i386 05/02/04 12:30:03 Updated: switchdesk 4.0.3-1.noarch 05/02/04 12:30:03 Updated: gnome-applets 1:2.6.0-4.i386 05/02/04 12:30:03 Updated: SysVinit 2.85-25.i386 05/02/04 12:30:03 Updated: switchdesk-gui 4.0.3-1.noarch Feel that I'm really in trouble here. Running Fc2test3, upgraded from test2. Selinux=permissive. - -- Trond Danielsen *********************************** _ * http://www.trond-danielsen.org * The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) * Mobile tlf: +47 99 62 52 35 * against HTML e-mail X * GPG ID: 0x02F29FD9 * http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ *********************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAlT2grHrsMALyn9kRAlppAJ4rDLWwOAM9HcbgEb++YE70s26N9ACgpC/A fzr6Kd2DZ+RtPsKGvky6UMw= =Oul1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stlecho at yahoo.com Sun May 2 18:12:59 2004 From: stlecho at yahoo.com (Stefan Lecho) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD Message-ID: <20040502181259.96125.qmail@web60002.mail.yahoo.com> > Someone broke the handling of machines without PCI between test2 and test3. My machine is only 3 months old and contains - verified with AIDA - 5 PCI slots. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 2 18:43:19 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 02:43:19 +0800 Subject: hotplugging USB disk on key: incorrect fstab entry In-Reply-To: <1083506815.2603.15.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <1083505955.2356.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405022356.32039.dennis@ausil.us> <1083506815.2603.15.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <1083523399.10843.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 22:06, shmuel siegel wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 16:56, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > Once upon a time Sunday 02 May 2004 11:52 pm, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > i would bugzilla it but the problem is that some use /dev/sda and > > others /dev/sda1 i think the newer and the biggerones tend to use /dev/sda > > though im not sure if that is entirely accurate. i have three different USB > > disk keys and all use /dev/sda1 though i usually just put the entry > > is /etc/fstab and leave it be > > > > Dennis > > > > In my case it is more complicated. Out of the box it was using sda and > using the whole disk. After I formatted it, it required sda1 and sda2. > So either way would have caused me problems at some point in time. Hotplug probably needs to be made smarter, have it read in the results of 'fdisk -L' parse it for mountable partitions and make entries for all of them. This would be useful for usb/firewire hard disks as well. -- Chris Kloiber From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sun May 2 18:45:47 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (rgleeson) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 10:45:47 -0800 Subject: desktop switching tool still buggy In-Reply-To: <20040502181640.C22B973FD7@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040502181640.C22B973FD7@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040502184312.M42924@childwelfare.ca> Can anyone reproduce this? http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122260 * This report is based on the *updates* to switchdesk of May 2/04. Description of problem: Switchdesk tool *worked* after updates, but only the first time. I switched to KDE and it defaulted to KDE. However, when I tried to switch the default back to Gnome via KDE, it kept going back in to KDE on each log in. Logging out and manually choosing Gnome brought me back in to Gnome. I used the desktop switching tool from Gnome and defaulted to Gnome. But, it still goes to KDE, whether or not I choose the "current display" option or not. So, the desktop switching tool is still buggy. Rory Gleeson Toronto, Canada From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 2 18:48:32 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 02:48:32 +0800 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <20040502175444.GA1995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040502175444.GA1995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083523712.10843.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 01:54, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 12:16:39PM -0500, Scott A Phipps wrote: > > I am also having similar problems. I have a machine with a radeon 7500 > > all-in-wonder that I installed test 3 on, and anything gl related will > > lock the box up hard. It also locks up hard sometimes while starting X > > up. > > Was this stable with FC1/RH9 etc or not ? This happens with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 and all errata with my Radeon 9200. DRI is enabled in glxinfo, glxgears opens, then hangs the system hard. Of course that's off topic here, but it is a data point. -- Chris Kloiber From alan at redhat.com Sun May 2 18:59:04 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 14:59:04 -0400 Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD In-Reply-To: <20040502181259.96125.qmail@web60002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040502181259.96125.qmail@web60002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040502185904.GA18844@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 11:12:59AM -0700, Stefan Lecho wrote: > > Someone broke the handling of machines without PCI > between test2 and test3. > > My machine is only 3 months old and contains - > verified with AIDA - 5 PCI slots. Your problem appears different - I dont know why your CD is not being found, but the bug you found with pci=off I do understand and it is that I was talking about From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun May 2 19:03:21 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 13:03:21 -0600 Subject: SATA support missing in kernels post 2.6.5-1.339 Message-ID: <409545F9.80202@xmission.com> All custom kernels post 2.6.5-1.339 have toasted Promise support. I compile the same kernel with PROMISE PDC202{68|69|70|71|75|76|77} support (BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_NEW) loaded as a module. NO WORKEE anymore. I'll stick with 339 for now. Thanks, RaXeT From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun May 2 19:01:52 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:01:52 +0200 Subject: Adding fc2trc to Grub menu In-Reply-To: <20040502130723.42e2e178.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> References: <20040502130723.42e2e178.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> Message-ID: <1083524511.5228.21.camel@littlePiet> Am So, den 02.05.2004 schrieb Steven P. Ulrick um 20:07: [...] > Here's the scenario: I have four devices hooked up to the two ide busses > on my motherboard. They could be described something like this: > primary master: Western Digital 120 gig HD > primary slave: CD-ROM, indeterminate origin > Secondary Master: Maxtor 120 gig HD > Secondary Slave: Maxtor 40 gig HD > > I have grub installed on the master boot record, but I installed FC2TR3 > on the Secondary Slave, and chose to install GRUB on that disc, I'm not shure, what what you exactly did. Did you partition your disc to have a separate /boot partition (/dev/hdc1 traditionally) and a partition for root (/dev/hdc2) and did you instruct grub to install in /dev/hdc1? In this case you may try: title Fedora Core 2tr3 (2.6.5-1.327) rootnoverify (hd2,0) chainloader +1 Should work the same way, if you did install all the stuff into one partition ( /dev/hdc1 = hd(2,0) ) Given your setup, what is the error message you receive? Peter From csm at moongroup.com Sun May 2 19:25:01 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 15:25:01 -0400 Subject: desktop switching tool still buggy In-Reply-To: <20040502184312.M42924@childwelfare.ca> References: <20040502181640.C22B973FD7@hormel.redhat.com> <20040502184312.M42924@childwelfare.ca> Message-ID: <40954B0D.3010504@moongroup.com> rgleeson wrote: > Can anyone reproduce this? > > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122260 > > * This report is based on the *updates* to switchdesk of May 2/04. > > Description of problem: > Switchdesk tool *worked* after updates, but only the first time. I > switched to KDE and it defaulted to KDE. > > However, when I tried to switch the default back to Gnome via KDE, it > kept going back in to KDE on each log in. > > Logging out and manually choosing Gnome brought me back in to Gnome. > I used the desktop switching tool from Gnome and defaulted to Gnome. > > But, it still goes to KDE, whether or not I choose the "current > display" option or not. > > So, the desktop switching tool is still buggy. I even can't get it to work the first time. When I use it from the command line this is what I see in the error output from Python: [root at stealth root]# switchdesk Red Hat Linux switchdesk 4.0 Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Red Hat, Inc Redistributable under the terms of the GNU General Public License Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py", line 36, in ? from backend import * File "/usr/share/switchdesk/backend.py", line 18 PROGNAME = @NAME@ ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From wrrhdev at riede.org Sun May 2 19:21:25 2004 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 15:21:25 -0400 Subject: Couple of nits from FC2T3 install Message-ID: <20040502192125.GK28387@serve.riede.org> I have custom NFS-installed FC2T3 without any problem on my dual PIII test PC (Supermicro P6DBS, Adaptec 7895 SCSI adapter, SCSI disks). When booting it for the first time, I encountered the following: 1) Console mouse services failed to start with "no mouse configured". However, anaconda recognized my mouse just fine, and it works in X. This is a PS2 wheel mouse behind an ATEN KVM. FC1 and before that RH8,9 set up the mouse for the console just fine. 2) I was asked twice what resolution display I wanted. Initially also asked to confirm graphics card + monitor, then, in the middle of firstboot, just the resolution + color depth. 3) In spite of running with selinux disabled, there are still log entries about it -- why? Here is what I have, first set from boot: May 2 09:52:01 fallguy kernel: Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized May 2 09:52:01 fallguy kernel: SELinux: Initializing. May 2 09:52:01 fallguy kernel: SELinux: Starting in permissive mode May 2 09:52:01 fallguy kernel: There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. May 2 09:52:02 fallguy kernel: Failure registering capabilities with the kernel May 2 09:52:02 fallguy kernel: selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Second set when I ran up2date (from the GUI): May 2 10:59:41 fallguy userhelper[5272]: running '/usr/sbin/up2date' with root privileges on behalf of 'wriede' May 2 11:02:01 fallguy kernel: security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:default_t May 2 11:02:01 fallguy kernel: security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:root_t May 2 11:02:01 fallguy kernel: security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:home_root_t May 2 11:02:01 fallguy kernel: security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:home_root_t May 2 11:02:01 fallguy kernel: security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t [ and many, many lines more like it ]. 4) I chose not to install Mozilla (deselected graphical internet) but still have the web browser task bar icon (which fails if clicked, obviously). All in all much better than T1 or T2, where I got totally bogged down by selinux issues. Keep up the good work! Willem Riede. From csm at moongroup.com Sun May 2 19:52:45 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 15:52:45 -0400 Subject: troubles with nautilus on x86_64 In-Reply-To: <409529DD.3030505@moongroup.com> References: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com> <409529DD.3030505@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <4095518D.30303@moongroup.com> Chuck Mead wrote: > Chuck Mead wrote: > >> So night before last I installed FC2T3 on an Athlon64 3000+ with a k8v >> deluxe motherboard. Gnome has been a problem as nautilus dies when it >> tries to start. I have a bug report (see attached) for that which is >> going into bugzilla shortly. This has been submitted as bug 122298 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122298 -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org Sun May 2 20:58:11 2004 From: ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org (Steven P. Ulrick) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 15:58:11 -0500 Subject: Adding fc2trc to Grub menu In-Reply-To: <1083524511.5228.21.camel@littlePiet> References: <20040502130723.42e2e178.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> <1083524511.5228.21.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <20040502155811.24f958d6.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> On Sun, 02 May 2004 21:01:52 +0200 Peter Boy wrote: > Am So, den 02.05.2004 schrieb Steven P. Ulrick um 20:07: > [...] > > Here's the scenario: I have four devices hooked up to the two ide > > busses on my motherboard. They could be described something like > > this: primary master: Western Digital 120 gig HD > > primary slave: CD-ROM, indeterminate origin > > Secondary Master: Maxtor 120 gig HD > > Secondary Slave: Maxtor 40 gig HD > > > > I have grub installed on the master boot record, but I installed > > FC2TR3 on the Secondary Slave, and chose to install GRUB on that > > disc, > > I'm not shure, what what you exactly did. Did you partition your disc > to have a separate /boot partition (/dev/hdc1 traditionally) and a > partition for root (/dev/hdc2) and did you instruct grub to install in > /dev/hdc1? In this case you may try: > > title Fedora Core 2tr3 (2.6.5-1.327) > rootnoverify (hd2,0) > chainloader +1 > > Should work the same way, if you did install all the stuff into one > partition ( /dev/hdc1 = hd(2,0) ) > > > Given your setup, what is the error message you receive? > > > Peter Hello, Peter :) I added the entry you said I should try to grub.conf, and it works like a charm :) But now I understand why some people are talking on the kde-devel list about KDE not working on Fedora Core. KDE won't even start :( But hey, the reason I installed Fedora Core 2 Test Release 3 is to try to install KDE from source, and possible from CVS HEAD, so that maybe we can figure out why some peopl are having these issues. But thanks again, Peter. Other than the KDE issue, everything worked perfectly :) Steven P. Ulrick From efthym at gmx.net Sun May 2 21:18:23 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 17:18:23 -0400 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 Message-ID: Hi all, while doing todays updates i got the following error [root at Purgatory incoming]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies Dependencies resolved I will do the following: [update: policy-sources 1.11.2-21.noarch] [update: kudzu 1.1.58-1.i386] [update: policy 1.11.2-21.noarch] [update: system-config-bind 2.0.2-5.noarch] [update: switchdesk 4.0.3-1.noarch] [update: ltrace 0.3.32-2.i386] [update: gnome-applets 1:2.6.0-4.i386] [update: kudzu-devel 1.1.58-1.i386] [update: SysVinit 2.85-25.i386] [update: screen 4.0.2-2.i386] [update: switchdesk-gui 4.0.3-1.noarch] [update: gtkam-gimp 0.1.11-2.i386] [update: gtkam 0.1.11-2.i386] [update: xfce4-panel 4.0.5-2.i386] Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages policy 100 % done 3/28 policy-sources 100 % done 4/28 make: Entering directory `/etc/security/selinux/src/policy' mkdir -p /etc/security/selinux /usr/bin/checkpolicy -o /etc/security/selinux/policy.17 policy.conf /usr/bin/checkpolicy: loading policy configuration from policy.conf domains/program/acct.te:13:ERROR 'syntax error' at token 'type' on line 68236: type acct_t, domain, privlog ; #line 13 /usr/bin/checkpolicy: error(s) encountered while parsing configuration make: *** [/etc/security/selinux/policy.17] Error 1 make: Leaving directory `/etc/security/selinux/src/policy' After this I went to init 1 and run fixfiles relabel. No errors came up. Nothing in messages either. I'm running with enforcing=1. Maybe its just me (its been a while since a fresh install). -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From rhally at mindspring.com Sun May 2 21:53:55 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 17:53:55 -0400 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40956DF3.7060001@mindspring.com> Efthym wrote: > Hi all, > while doing todays updates i got the following error > > [root at Purgatory incoming]# yum update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > Dependencies resolved > I will do the following: > [update: policy-sources 1.11.2-21.noarch] > [update: kudzu 1.1.58-1.i386] > [update: policy 1.11.2-21.noarch] > [update: system-config-bind 2.0.2-5.noarch] > [update: switchdesk 4.0.3-1.noarch] > [update: ltrace 0.3.32-2.i386] > [update: gnome-applets 1:2.6.0-4.i386] > [update: kudzu-devel 1.1.58-1.i386] > [update: SysVinit 2.85-25.i386] > [update: screen 4.0.2-2.i386] > [update: switchdesk-gui 4.0.3-1.noarch] > [update: gtkam-gimp 0.1.11-2.i386] > [update: gtkam 0.1.11-2.i386] > [update: xfce4-panel 4.0.5-2.i386] > Is this ok [y/N]: y > Downloading Packages > > policy 100 % done 3/28 > policy-sources 100 % done 4/28 > make: Entering directory `/etc/security/selinux/src/policy' > mkdir -p /etc/security/selinux > /usr/bin/checkpolicy -o /etc/security/selinux/policy.17 policy.conf > /usr/bin/checkpolicy: loading policy configuration from policy.conf > domains/program/acct.te:13:ERROR 'syntax error' at token 'type' on line > 68236: > type acct_t, domain, privlog ; > #line 13 > /usr/bin/checkpolicy: error(s) encountered while parsing configuration > make: *** [/etc/security/selinux/policy.17] Error 1 > make: Leaving directory `/etc/security/selinux/src/policy' > > After this I went to init 1 and run fixfiles relabel. No errors came up. > Nothing in messages either. I'm running with enforcing=1. > Maybe its just me (its been a while since a fresh install). > > I ran yum update today which included policy and policy-sources and did not have this problem. If you put acct.te from policy/domains/program directory in a message(it's short) someone can compare it to theirs and see if there is a difference. Another possibility is the macros that are used in that file. HTH Richard Hally From alan at redhat.com Sun May 2 22:06:30 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 18:06:30 -0400 Subject: Couple of nits from FC2T3 install In-Reply-To: <20040502192125.GK28387@serve.riede.org> References: <20040502192125.GK28387@serve.riede.org> Message-ID: <20040502220630.GA5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:21:25PM -0400, Willem Riede wrote: > 1) Console mouse services failed to start with "no mouse configured". > However, anaconda recognized my mouse just fine, and it works in X. > This is a PS2 wheel mouse behind an ATEN KVM. FC1 and before that RH8,9 > set up the mouse for the console just fine. See this too. Seems gpm isnt set up right by default From alan at redhat.com Sun May 2 22:07:18 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 18:07:18 -0400 Subject: desktop switching tool still buggy In-Reply-To: <40954B0D.3010504@moongroup.com> References: <20040502181640.C22B973FD7@hormel.redhat.com> <20040502184312.M42924@childwelfare.ca> <40954B0D.3010504@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <20040502220718.GB5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:25:01PM -0400, Chuck Mead wrote: > [root at stealth root]# switchdesk > Red Hat Linux switchdesk 4.0 > Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Red Hat, Inc > Redistributable under the terms of the GNU General Public License > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py", line 36, in ? > from backend import * > File "/usr/share/switchdesk/backend.py", line 18 > PROGNAME = @NAME@ > ^ > SyntaxError: invalid syntax Ditto - stick it in bugzilla if it isnt already there From efthym at gmx.net Sun May 2 22:09:05 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:09:05 -0400 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: <40956DF3.7060001@mindspring.com> References: <40956DF3.7060001@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Here's my acct.te #DESC Acct - BSD process accounting # # Author: Russell Coker # X-Debian-Packages: acct # ################################# # # Rules for the acct_t domain. # # acct_exec_t is the type of the acct executable. # daemon_base_domain(acct) ifdef(`crond.te', ` system_crond_entry(acct_exec_t, acct_t) # for monthly cron job file_type_auto_trans(acct_t, var_log_t, wtmp_t, file) ') # for SSP allow acct_t urandom_device_t:chr_file read; allow acct_t logrotate_exec_t:file getattr; r_dir_file(logrotate_t, acct_data_t) type acct_data_t, file_type, sysadmfile; allow acct_t self:capability sys_pacct; # gzip needs chown capability for some reason allow acct_t self:capability chown; allow acct_t var_t:dir { getattr search }; rw_dir_create_file(acct_t, acct_data_t) can_exec(acct_t, { shell_exec_t bin_t initrc_exec_t acct_exec_t }) allow acct_t { bin_t sbin_t }:dir search; allow acct_t bin_t:lnk_file read; read_locale(acct_t) allow acct_t self:capability fsetid; allow acct_t fs_t:filesystem getattr; allow acct_t self:unix_stream_socket create_socket_perms; allow acct_t self:fifo_file { read write getattr }; allow acct_t proc_t:file { read getattr }; allow acct_t { sysctl_kernel_t sysctl_t }:dir search; allow acct_t sysctl_kernel_t:file read; dontaudit acct_t sysadm_home_dir_t:dir { getattr search }; # for nscd dontaudit acct_t var_run_t:dir search; # not sure why we need this, the command "last" is reported as using it dontaudit acct_t self:capability kill; allow acct_t devtty_t:chr_file { read write }; allow acct_t { etc_t etc_runtime_t }:file { read getattr }; > I ran yum update today which included policy and policy-sources and did > not have this problem. If you put acct.te from policy/domains/program > directory in a message(it's short) someone can compare it to theirs and > see if there is a difference. Another possibility is the macros that > are used in that file. > HTH > Richard Hally > > Thanx -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From steve at silug.org Sun May 2 22:19:32 2004 From: steve at silug.org (Steven Pritchard) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:19:32 -0500 Subject: FC2t3/x86_64 DRI broken? In-Reply-To: <1083468140.15049.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040430233119.GA6472@osiris.silug.org> <1083468140.15049.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040502221932.GA24585@osiris.silug.org> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 11:22:20AM +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 07:31, Steven Pritchard wrote: > > So I just upgraded a x86_64 box to FC2 test3, and while glxinfo says I > > have direct rendering, everything else seems to disagree... Neither > > tuxracer or et.x86 will start, and glxgears only gives me 11 fps. > Since you mention it, I have the same thing (almost) occurring with my > P4 (3.06,ht-disabled)/Radeon 9200 setup. direct rendering is on, but > glxgears is at 20fps fullscreen. So just for fun, I just tried running tuxracer as root... Works fine. I'm going to hunt around in bugzilla to see if anyone has reported this yet. Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)398-7360 Mobile: (618)567-7320 From rhally at mindspring.com Sun May 2 22:30:58 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:30:58 -0400 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: References: <40956DF3.7060001@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <409576A2.9070609@mindspring.com> Efthym wrote: > Here's my acct.te > > #DESC Acct - BSD process accounting > # > # Author: Russell Coker > # X-Debian-Packages: acct > # > > ################################# > # > # Rules for the acct_t domain. > # > # acct_exec_t is the type of the acct executable. > # > daemon_base_domain(acct) > ifdef(`crond.te', ` > system_crond_entry(acct_exec_t, acct_t) > > # for monthly cron job > file_type_auto_trans(acct_t, var_log_t, wtmp_t, file) > ') > > # for SSP > allow acct_t urandom_device_t:chr_file read; > > allow acct_t logrotate_exec_t:file getattr; > r_dir_file(logrotate_t, acct_data_t) > > type acct_data_t, file_type, sysadmfile; > > allow acct_t self:capability sys_pacct; > > # gzip needs chown capability for some reason > allow acct_t self:capability chown; > > allow acct_t var_t:dir { getattr search }; > rw_dir_create_file(acct_t, acct_data_t) > > can_exec(acct_t, { shell_exec_t bin_t initrc_exec_t acct_exec_t }) > allow acct_t { bin_t sbin_t }:dir search; > allow acct_t bin_t:lnk_file read; > > read_locale(acct_t) > > allow acct_t self:capability fsetid; > allow acct_t fs_t:filesystem getattr; > > allow acct_t self:unix_stream_socket create_socket_perms; > > allow acct_t self:fifo_file { read write getattr }; > > allow acct_t proc_t:file { read getattr }; > > allow acct_t { sysctl_kernel_t sysctl_t }:dir search; > allow acct_t sysctl_kernel_t:file read; > > dontaudit acct_t sysadm_home_dir_t:dir { getattr search }; > > # for nscd > dontaudit acct_t var_run_t:dir search; > > # not sure why we need this, the command "last" is reported as using it > dontaudit acct_t self:capability kill; > > allow acct_t devtty_t:chr_file { read write }; > > allow acct_t { etc_t etc_runtime_t }:file { read getattr }; > >> I ran yum update today which included policy and policy-sources and >> did not have this problem. If you put acct.te from >> policy/domains/program directory in a message(it's short) someone can >> compare it to theirs and see if there is a difference. Another >> possibility is the macros that are used in that file. >> HTH >> Richard Hally >> >> > > Thanx > The acct.te file looks exactly like mine. Have you made changes to the policy sources? Does the problem show up if you run make in the policy directory. consider erasing policy-sources and reinstalling to see if that clears it up. Sorry I can't be more help. Richard Hally From dant at cdkkt.com Sun May 2 22:35:05 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 15:35:05 -0700 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUB hang on 2nd install Message-ID: Hello, I just joined this mailing list and I have no idea what URL is available for past emails to this group so any advice or pointers would be helpful, and thanks in advance. I have an old VA Linux Systems 501 I have downloaded the FC T2 and I have installed and configured the HDDs twice now and it is getting very annoying so I guess that is what being on the fringe-edge means... aggravation.... grrrrr. Try #1: The first install did not go well. I have gone through two-hours of installation, partitioning of the HDDs, and installing 'Everything' for packages and it appears that this might be the cause of my woes? It seems that everything was somewhat fine (in spite that the CDROM read had difficultling reading some packages that I had to occasionally retry) but other than that, the installation seems to complete to the end with the 'reboot' button. The problem after installation is this: on reboot, everything was restarted until GRUB and then GRUB went into interactive mode. There was NO SETUP -- so I had NO IDEA what I was looking for since I hadn't used GRUB in interactive mode before until now. Dang... I found the splash screen and that came up but what the heck is the explicit filename for the vmlinuz???? Anyone have a sample GRUB.CONF file so I can try a manual boot? Never mind... I gave up thinking that my CD's were corrupted so I downloaded T2 again, checked the MD5's and burned 4 more CDs. Try #2: I installed T2 again, starting over from scratch and changed the way I setup my partitions. NOTE: there was a problem with manual DRUID, as I noticed that there was NO WAY TO REMOVE THE BOOT PARITION on a SECOND drive!!! Sheesh! -- so I got out of the installation, and booted my trusty little boot-floppy (self-booting Linux kernel, standalone from 8 years ago) and fdisked out all the partitions, saved, rebooted, and then restarted the installation again. This time paritioning worked to my specs and the installation when completely through with 1 file re-read. Rebooting after a complete install (using "Everygthing" packages), and an now revisiting GRUB but this time the GRUB is HUNG!!!! GOL-DURN-IT!!!! Now what am I doing wrong folks? Any hints or advice as to how to kick-start this? Best regards, Dan From csm at moongroup.com Sun May 2 22:35:44 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:35:44 -0400 Subject: desktop switching tool still buggy In-Reply-To: <20040502220718.GB5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040502181640.C22B973FD7@hormel.redhat.com> <20040502184312.M42924@childwelfare.ca> <40954B0D.3010504@moongroup.com> <20040502220718.GB5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409577C0.2040603@moongroup.com> Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:25:01PM -0400, Chuck Mead wrote: > >>[root at stealth root]# switchdesk >>Red Hat Linux switchdesk 4.0 >>Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Red Hat, Inc >>Redistributable under the terms of the GNU General Public License >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/usr/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py", line 36, in ? >> from backend import * >> File "/usr/share/switchdesk/backend.py", line 18 >> PROGNAME = @NAME@ >> ^ >>SyntaxError: invalid syntax > > > Ditto - stick it in bugzilla if it isnt already there I already did it! Also... the version in development fixes it! -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From efthym at gmx.net Sun May 2 22:32:52 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:32:52 -0400 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: <409576A2.9070609@mindspring.com> References: <40956DF3.7060001@mindspring.com> <409576A2.9070609@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 02 May 2004 18:30:58 -0400, Richard Hally wrote: > Efthym wrote: > >> Here's my acct.te >> #DESC Acct - BSD process accounting >> # >> # Author: Russell Coker >> # X-Debian-Packages: acct >> # >> ################################# >> # >> # Rules for the acct_t domain. >> # >> # acct_exec_t is the type of the acct executable. >> # >> daemon_base_domain(acct) >> ifdef(`crond.te', ` >> system_crond_entry(acct_exec_t, acct_t) >> # for monthly cron job >> file_type_auto_trans(acct_t, var_log_t, wtmp_t, file) >> ') >> # for SSP >> allow acct_t urandom_device_t:chr_file read; >> allow acct_t logrotate_exec_t:file getattr; >> r_dir_file(logrotate_t, acct_data_t) >> type acct_data_t, file_type, sysadmfile; >> allow acct_t self:capability sys_pacct; >> # gzip needs chown capability for some reason >> allow acct_t self:capability chown; >> allow acct_t var_t:dir { getattr search }; >> rw_dir_create_file(acct_t, acct_data_t) >> can_exec(acct_t, { shell_exec_t bin_t initrc_exec_t acct_exec_t }) >> allow acct_t { bin_t sbin_t }:dir search; >> allow acct_t bin_t:lnk_file read; >> read_locale(acct_t) >> allow acct_t self:capability fsetid; >> allow acct_t fs_t:filesystem getattr; >> allow acct_t self:unix_stream_socket create_socket_perms; >> allow acct_t self:fifo_file { read write getattr }; >> allow acct_t proc_t:file { read getattr }; >> allow acct_t { sysctl_kernel_t sysctl_t }:dir search; >> allow acct_t sysctl_kernel_t:file read; >> dontaudit acct_t sysadm_home_dir_t:dir { getattr search }; >> # for nscd >> dontaudit acct_t var_run_t:dir search; >> # not sure why we need this, the command "last" is reported as using it >> dontaudit acct_t self:capability kill; >> allow acct_t devtty_t:chr_file { read write }; >> allow acct_t { etc_t etc_runtime_t }:file { read getattr }; >> >>> I ran yum update today which included policy and policy-sources and >>> did not have this problem. If you put acct.te from >>> policy/domains/program directory in a message(it's short) someone can >>> compare it to theirs and see if there is a difference. Another >>> possibility is the macros that are used in that file. >>> HTH >>> Richard Hally >>> >>> >> Thanx >> > The acct.te file looks exactly like mine. Have you made changes to the > policy sources? Does the problem show up if you run make in the policy > directory. consider erasing policy-sources and reinstalling to see if > that clears it up. > Sorry I can't be more help. > Richard Hally > > > I haven't made any changes to the policy. Just to clarify, isn't make the same as running fixfiles ... reload the whole policy ? I'll reinstall and see how it goes. Thanx for the help -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From steve at silug.org Sun May 2 22:46:19 2004 From: steve at silug.org (Steven Pritchard) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:46:19 -0500 Subject: FC2t3/x86_64 DRI broken? In-Reply-To: <20040502221932.GA24585@osiris.silug.org> References: <20040430233119.GA6472@osiris.silug.org> <1083468140.15049.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040502221932.GA24585@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <20040502224619.GA24729@osiris.silug.org> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 05:19:32PM -0500, Steven Pritchard wrote: > So just for fun, I just tried running tuxracer as root... Works fine. But apparently still using software rendering. et.x86 still gives a warning about using software rendering, and glxgears reports the same frame rate. It scares me a little (in a good way) that this machine is fast enough to make tuxracer playable with software rendering. :-) Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)398-7360 Mobile: (618)567-7320 From steve at silug.org Sun May 2 22:54:21 2004 From: steve at silug.org (Steven Pritchard) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:54:21 -0500 Subject: FC2t3/x86_64 DRI broken? In-Reply-To: <20040502224619.GA24729@osiris.silug.org> References: <20040430233119.GA6472@osiris.silug.org> <1083468140.15049.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040502221932.GA24585@osiris.silug.org> <20040502224619.GA24729@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <20040502225421.GA24771@osiris.silug.org> OK, I entered this into bugzilla. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122305 Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)398-7360 Mobile: (618)567-7320 From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun May 2 23:01:19 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 01:01:19 +0200 Subject: Adding fc2trc to Grub menu In-Reply-To: <20040502155811.24f958d6.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> References: <20040502130723.42e2e178.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> <1083524511.5228.21.camel@littlePiet> <20040502155811.24f958d6.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> Message-ID: <1083538879.5822.1.camel@littlePiet> Am So, den 02.05.2004 schrieb Steven P. Ulrick um 22:58: > I added the entry you said I should try to grub.conf, and it works like > a charm :) Fine! Peter From bit_char_g at gmx.net Sun May 2 23:07:01 2004 From: bit_char_g at gmx.net (bit) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 01:07:01 +0200 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUB hang on 2nd install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405030105.59150.bit_char_g@gmx.net> Am Montag 03 Mai 2004 00:35 schrieb Daniel B. Thurman: > Hello, > > I just joined this mailing list and I have no idea what URL is available > for past emails to this > group so any advice or pointers would be helpful, and thanks in advance. As you may have seen during your registration process for this mailing list, you can browse archives of this mailing list here: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/ Or did I misunderstand, what you meant by "past emails" ? bit From arnling at kth.se Sun May 2 23:07:15 2004 From: arnling at kth.se (Joakim Arnling) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 01:07:15 +0200 Subject: 3Com OfficeConnect not starting (3crshpw_96) Message-ID: <1083539235.2138.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> My 3com-pcmcia is not starting on FC2T3 The led on the antenna is lit, when it was working (on FC1), the led was turned off. It's detected in some way: ********* /var/log/messages **************** May 3 00:46:20 localhost cardmgr[1023]: product info: "3Com", "3CRSHPW_96 Wireless LAN PC Card" May 3 00:46:20 localhost cardmgr[1023]: manfid: 0x0101, 0x0696 function: 6 (network) ***************************************** [root at localhost log]# iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. From dant at cdkkt.com Sun May 2 23:11:20 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 16:11:20 -0700 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUBhang on 2nd install Message-ID: Hi, Thanks for the tip, that is what I was looking for! Now I can see if anyone has complained of GRUB problems... sigh.... Again, Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: bit [mailto:bit_char_g at gmx.net] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:07 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUBhang on 2nd install Am Montag 03 Mai 2004 00:35 schrieb Daniel B. Thurman: > Hello, > > I just joined this mailing list and I have no idea what URL is available > for past emails to this > group so any advice or pointers would be helpful, and thanks in advance. As you may have seen during your registration process for this mailing list, you can browse archives of this mailing list here: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/ Or did I misunderstand, what you meant by "past emails" ? bit -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From russell at coker.com.au Sun May 2 23:11:06 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 09:11:06 +1000 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405030911.06929.russell@coker.com.au> On Mon, 3 May 2004 07:18, Efthym wrote: > /usr/bin/checkpolicy -o /etc/security/selinux/policy.17 policy.conf > /usr/bin/checkpolicy: loading policy configuration from policy.conf > domains/program/acct.te:13:ERROR 'syntax error' at token 'type' on line > 68236: > type acct_t, domain, privlog ; Please give us the output of "head -68236 policy.conf | tail -30". I suspect an error on a preceeding line. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From kepa at oceanvoyages.com Sun May 2 23:23:24 2004 From: kepa at oceanvoyages.com (Kepa Lyman) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 00:23:24 +0100 Subject: where is Juk? Message-ID: <200405030023.24230.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> Juk is the quasi-itunes equiv for KDE. When I installed test2 w/ kde, there was no Juk included, it's not in /usr/bin, and the kde site says it's part of the kde multimedia base package. How do I install it? Did I miss something on the initial install? thanks, Kepa From dennis at ausil.us Sun May 2 23:35:12 2004 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 09:35:12 +1000 Subject: where is Juk? In-Reply-To: <200405030023.24230.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> References: <200405030023.24230.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> Message-ID: <200405030935.13912.dennis@ausil.us> Once upon a time Monday 03 May 2004 9:23 am, Kepa Lyman wrote: > Juk is the quasi-itunes equiv for KDE. When I installed test2 w/ kde, > there was no Juk included, it's not in /usr/bin, and the kde site says it's > part of the kde multimedia base package. How do I install it? Did I miss > something on the initial install? > > thanks, > > Kepa it needs taglib development packages installed when kdemultimedia is built and it will be built as well however Fedora doesnt have taglib i always build my own kdemultimedia packages as i turn on mp3 support. if you get the taglib and taglib-devel packages from kde.org then you can build kdemultimedia with juk Dennis From efthym at gmx.net Sun May 2 23:46:01 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 19:46:01 -0400 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: <200405030911.06929.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200405030911.06929.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 May 2004 09:11:06 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 3 May 2004 07:18, Efthym wrote: >> /usr/bin/checkpolicy -o /etc/security/selinux/policy.17 policy.conf >> /usr/bin/checkpolicy: loading policy configuration from policy.conf >> domains/program/acct.te:13:ERROR 'syntax error' at token 'type' on line >> 68236: >> type acct_t, domain, privlog ; > > Please give us the output of "head -68236 policy.conf | tail -30". I > suspect > an error on a preceeding line. > [root at Purgatory policy]# head -68236 policy.conf | tail -30 #line 1 "domains/misc/local.te" allow cpuspeed_t bin_t:dir { search } #line 1 "domains/misc/startx.te" #DESC startx - policy for running an X server from a user domain # # Author: Russell Coker # # Everything is in the macro files #line 1 "domains/program/acct.te" #DESC Acct - BSD process accounting # # Author: Russell Coker # X-Debian-Packages: acct # ################################# # # Rules for the acct_t domain. # # acct_exec_t is the type of the acct executable. # #line 13 #line 13 type acct_t, domain, privlog ; [root at Purgatory policy]# Hope this helps -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From wrrhdev at riede.org Sun May 2 23:53:35 2004 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 19:53:35 -0400 Subject: Couple of nits from FC2T3 install In-Reply-To: <20040502220630.GA5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (from alan@redhat.com on Sun, May 02, 2004 at 18:06:30 -0400) References: <20040502192125.GK28387@serve.riede.org> <20040502220630.GA5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040502235335.GO28387@serve.riede.org> On 2004.05.02 18:06, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:21:25PM -0400, Willem Riede wrote: > > 1) Console mouse services failed to start with "no mouse configured". > > However, anaconda recognized my mouse just fine, and it works in X. > > This is a PS2 wheel mouse behind an ATEN KVM. FC1 and before that RH8,9 > > set up the mouse for the console just fine. > > See this too. Seems gpm isnt set up right by default > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=114591 is the same problem, except it was entered against RHEL... I've added a comment. Willem Riede. From dant at cdkkt.com Sun May 2 23:57:01 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 16:57:01 -0700 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st install andGRUBhang on 2nd install Message-ID: Hi all, I did a little more researching but nothing gave me any clues to what is going on and why GRUB hangs... I inserted CD1 and ran linux rescue and found: My drives and partitions are: /dev/hda1 /boot (active) /dev/hdb3 / /etc/grub.conf # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # ... blah, blah... #boot=/dev/hda1 default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb initrd /initrd-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.img The above configuration file is correct, so... why is GRUB hanging when starting up? All I get on a boot up is all the usual pc bootup text, then after that a cleared screen with a black background and 4 characters in white: GRUB[] where [] is the block-cursor. Best regards, Dan From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 2 23:59:44 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 07:59:44 +0800 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st install andGRUBhang on 2nd install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083542384.14780.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 07:57, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi all, > > I did a little more researching but nothing gave me any > clues to what is going on and why GRUB hangs... I inserted > CD1 and ran linux rescue and found: > > My drives and partitions are: > /dev/hda1 /boot (active) > /dev/hdb3 / > > /etc/grub.conf > # grub.conf generated by anaconda > # > # ... blah, blah... > #boot=/dev/hda1 > default=0 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > title Fedora Core (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb > initrd /initrd-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.img > > The above configuration file is correct, so... why > is GRUB hanging when starting up? > > All I get on a boot up is all the usual pc bootup text, > then after that a cleared screen with a black background > and 4 characters in white: > > GRUB[] > > where [] is the block-cursor. > > Best regards, > Dan #boot=/dev/hda1 I would guess that you have an older grub installed in /dev/hda that does not know where your current system is installed. So it's never getting as far as the grub in /dev/hda1. -- Chris Kloiber From gstool at earthlink.net Mon May 3 00:04:53 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 19:04:53 -0500 Subject: desktop switching tool still buggy In-Reply-To: <409577C0.2040603@moongroup.com> References: <20040502181640.C22B973FD7@hormel.redhat.com> <20040502184312.M42924@childwelfare.ca> <40954B0D.3010504@moongroup.com> <20040502220718.GB5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <409577C0.2040603@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <40958CA5.2080700@earthlink.net> Chuck Mead wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > >> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:25:01PM -0400, Chuck Mead wrote: >> >>> [root at stealth root]# switchdesk >>> Red Hat Linux switchdesk 4.0 >>> Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Red Hat, Inc >>> Redistributable under the terms of the GNU General Public License >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "/usr/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py", line 36, in ? >>> from backend import * >>> File "/usr/share/switchdesk/backend.py", line 18 >>> PROGNAME = @NAME@ >>> ^ >>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax >> >> >> >> Ditto - stick it in bugzilla if it isnt already there > > > I already did it! Also... the version in development fixes it! > See bugzilla # 121840. Version 4.0.3-1 fixes the basic problem, but if you have selected KDE and then want to select Gnome from KDE, the gui already shows Gnome as default, but to make it really change to Gnome, you need to first select KDE and then select Gnome. It will then switch to Gnome. The bug report listed above has this information. Gerry Tool From dant at cdkkt.com Mon May 3 00:07:46 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:07:46 -0700 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st installandGRUBhang on 2nd install Message-ID: Hi, Oh wow... that would imply that I would have to manually scrub the hda drive and reinstall? I did previously had RH9 on it and when I installed the FCT2, I did a new install on it... you would think that the FC should have partitioned, reformatted, and installed a new MBR ??? Is there a way to force a reinstall of the MBR using grub in linux rescue to be sure so that I can save 2+ hours of reinstall? Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: Chris Kloiber [mailto:ckloiber at ckloiber.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:00 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st installandGRUBhang on 2nd install On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 07:57, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi all, > > I did a little more researching but nothing gave me any > clues to what is going on and why GRUB hangs... I inserted > CD1 and ran linux rescue and found: > > My drives and partitions are: > /dev/hda1 /boot (active) > /dev/hdb3 / > > /etc/grub.conf > # grub.conf generated by anaconda > # > # ... blah, blah... > #boot=/dev/hda1 > default=0 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > title Fedora Core (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb > initrd /initrd-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.img > > The above configuration file is correct, so... why > is GRUB hanging when starting up? > > All I get on a boot up is all the usual pc bootup text, > then after that a cleared screen with a black background > and 4 characters in white: > > GRUB[] > > where [] is the block-cursor. > > Best regards, > Dan #boot=/dev/hda1 I would guess that you have an older grub installed in /dev/hda that does not know where your current system is installed. So it's never getting as far as the grub in /dev/hda1. -- Chris Kloiber -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From russell at coker.com.au Mon May 3 00:10:51 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 10:10:51 +1000 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: References: <200405030911.06929.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <200405031010.51162.russell@coker.com.au> On Mon, 3 May 2004 09:46, Efthym wrote: > #line 1 "domains/misc/local.te" > allow cpuspeed_t bin_t:dir { search } > #line 1 "domains/misc/startx.te" You forgot the semi-colon at the end of the line... -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 00:11:12 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 17:11:12 -0700 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st installandGRUBhang on 2nd install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40958E20.10901@comcast.net> Try 'man grub' And then run grub-install and select the root part and then re-install grub. My guess is that you selected to use the first sector of the boot partition instead of the MBR. ~kenny Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >Hi, > >Oh wow... that would imply that I would have to manually >scrub the hda drive and reinstall? I did previously had >RH9 on it and when I installed the FCT2, I did a new >install on it... you would think that the FC should >have partitioned, reformatted, and installed a new >MBR ??? > >Is there a way to force a reinstall of the MBR using >grub in linux rescue to be sure so that I can save >2+ hours of reinstall? > >Thanks, >Dan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Kloiber [mailto:ckloiber at ckloiber.com] >Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:00 PM >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >Subject: RE: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st >installandGRUBhang on 2nd install > > >On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 07:57, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > >>Hi all, >> >>I did a little more researching but nothing gave me any >>clues to what is going on and why GRUB hangs... I inserted >>CD1 and ran linux rescue and found: >> >>My drives and partitions are: >>/dev/hda1 /boot (active) >>/dev/hdb3 / >> >>/etc/grub.conf >># grub.conf generated by anaconda >># >># ... blah, blah... >>#boot=/dev/hda1 >>default=0 >>timeout=10 >>splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz >>title Fedora Core (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) >> root (hd0,0) >> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb >> initrd /initrd-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.img >> >>The above configuration file is correct, so... why >>is GRUB hanging when starting up? >> >>All I get on a boot up is all the usual pc bootup text, >>then after that a cleared screen with a black background >>and 4 characters in white: >> >>GRUB[] >> >>where [] is the block-cursor. >> >>Best regards, >>Dan >> >> > >#boot=/dev/hda1 > >I would guess that you have an older grub installed in /dev/hda that >does not know where your current system is installed. So it's never >getting as far as the grub in /dev/hda1. > > > From efthym at gmx.net Mon May 3 00:14:39 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:14:39 -0400 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: <200405031010.51162.russell@coker.com.au> References: <200405030911.06929.russell@coker.com.au> <200405031010.51162.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 May 2004 10:10:51 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 3 May 2004 09:46, Efthym wrote: >> #line 1 "domains/misc/local.te" >> allow cpuspeed_t bin_t:dir { search } >> #line 1 "domains/misc/startx.te" > > You forgot the semi-colon at the end of the line... > The thing is I didn't edit that file! I just did yum update and it installed 1.11.2-21. never had any problems before. Also Richard said earlier that my file is exactly the same as his. I'm just wondering if that's how it is in rawhide as well. -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 00:25:22 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 17:25:22 -0700 Subject: yum returns 404 Message-ID: <40959172.8010706@comcast.net> Is anyone having issues with yum? The default page is: baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/$basearch/os/ and it returns a 404. The normal release servers also return 404. I'm using Fedora Core2 Test3 x86_64 If anyone knows of the correct links then that would be great. Thanks ~kenny From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Mon May 3 00:29:15 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:29:15 -0700 Subject: upgrade from test 2 to test 3 ? In-Reply-To: <1083177891.29206.66.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <20040428115705.21491.qmail@webmail-2-5.mesa1.secureserver.net> <1083153335.25219.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1083157925.27002.26.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1083177891.29206.66.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20040503002915.GA10186@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 02:44:51PM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 09:31, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 08:01, David Collantes wrote: > ... > > > Just be sure to configure yum/up2date for your nearest mirror first. > > > > I'm new to yum - How do i configure it's mirror list? It's horribly slow > > as it is.. :-/ > > Check out http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html > > Edit /etc/yum.conf and change as follows: > > [development] .... Will this do what you expect? In the development cycle a number of packages were rolled back to a previous version. After the rollback to a previous version the installed version is newer than the 'current' best on rawhide. Yum and up2date will not track the system with the contents of rawhide. Even an update from the distribution CD's does not sync the system and the packages on the disks as far as I can tell. Is there an easy way to detect these version reversals as we close in on the final bits? Is there a way to correctly match rawhide and a testing box? If a package was installed --force or --oldpackage is there an rpm command that will illuminate package dependency errors? Perhaps a script built from: /var/spool/yum/development/header.info and `rpm -qa`.... Thanks, mitch -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From rhally at mindspring.com Mon May 3 00:45:06 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:45:06 -0400 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: References: <200405030911.06929.russell@coker.com.au> <200405031010.51162.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <40959612.80306@mindspring.com> Efthym wrote: > On Mon, 3 May 2004 10:10:51 +1000, Russell Coker > wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 May 2004 09:46, Efthym wrote: >> >>> #line 1 "domains/misc/local.te" >>> allow cpuspeed_t bin_t:dir { search } >>> #line 1 "domains/misc/startx.te" >> >> >> You forgot the semi-colon at the end of the line... >> > > The thing is I didn't edit that file! I just did yum update and it > installed 1.11.2-21. never had any problems before. > Also Richard said earlier that my file is exactly the same as his. I'm > just wondering if that's how it is in rawhide as well. > > The error is in the local.te file not the acct.te file. From gstool at earthlink.net Mon May 3 00:47:47 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 19:47:47 -0500 Subject: Adding fc2trc to Grub menu In-Reply-To: <20040502155811.24f958d6.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> References: <20040502130723.42e2e178.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> <1083524511.5228.21.camel@littlePiet> <20040502155811.24f958d6.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> Message-ID: <409596B3.3000205@earthlink.net> Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > Hello, Peter :) > I added the entry you said I should try to grub.conf, and it works like > a charm :) But now I understand why some people are talking on the > kde-devel list about KDE not working on Fedora Core. KDE won't even > start :( What are you talking about? It works fine for me. I use both KDE and Gnome. Switchdesk (version 4.0.3.1) is even fixed to the point where one can easily switch back and forth (bugzilla #121840.) Gerry Tool From notting at redhat.com Mon May 3 00:50:26 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 20:50:26 -0400 Subject: Couple of nits from FC2T3 install In-Reply-To: <20040502220630.GA5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040502192125.GK28387@serve.riede.org> <20040502220630.GA5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040503005026.GC24383@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Alan Cox (alan at redhat.com) said: > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:21:25PM -0400, Willem Riede wrote: > > 1) Console mouse services failed to start with "no mouse configured". > > However, anaconda recognized my mouse just fine, and it works in X. > > This is a PS2 wheel mouse behind an ATEN KVM. FC1 and before that RH8,9 > > set up the mouse for the console just fine. > > See this too. Seems gpm isnt set up right by default system-config-mouse isn't getting run correctly; known issue. Bill From bloch at verdurin.com Mon May 3 00:51:10 2004 From: bloch at verdurin.com (bloch at verdurin.com) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 01:51:10 +0100 Subject: Couple of nits from FC2T3 install In-Reply-To: <20040502220630.GA5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040502192125.GK28387@serve.riede.org> <20040502220630.GA5327@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040503005109.GA8672@bloch.verdurin.priv> On Sun, 02 May 2004, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:21:25PM -0400, Willem Riede wrote: > > 1) Console mouse services failed to start with "no mouse configured". > > However, anaconda recognized my mouse just fine, and it works in X. > > This is a PS2 wheel mouse behind an ATEN KVM. FC1 and before that RH8,9 > > set up the mouse for the console just fine. > > See this too. Seems gpm isnt set up right by default > I'm also seeing this, with a Logitech wireless mouse connected to a Shuttle SN41G2. From efthym at gmx.net Mon May 3 00:47:25 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:47:25 -0400 Subject: Error in update policy-sources-1.11.2-21 In-Reply-To: <40959612.80306@mindspring.com> References: <200405030911.06929.russell@coker.com.au> <200405031010.51162.russell@coker.com.au> <40959612.80306@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:45:06 -0400, Richard Hally wrote: > Efthym wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 May 2004 10:10:51 +1000, Russell Coker >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 3 May 2004 09:46, Efthym wrote: >>> >>>> #line 1 "domains/misc/local.te" >>>> allow cpuspeed_t bin_t:dir { search } >>>> #line 1 "domains/misc/startx.te" >>> >>> >>> You forgot the semi-colon at the end of the line... >>> >> The thing is I didn't edit that file! I just did yum update and it >> installed 1.11.2-21. never had any problems before. >> Also Richard said earlier that my file is exactly the same as his. I'm >> just wondering if that's how it is in rawhide as well. >> > The error is in the local.te file not the acct.te file. > > ... right :) -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From w.steenburg at myactv.net Mon May 3 00:58:23 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:58:23 -0400 Subject: yum returns 404 In-Reply-To: <40959172.8010706@comcast.net> References: <40959172.8010706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1083545903.2271.1.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 20:25, Kenny Speer wrote: > Is anyone having issues with yum? The default page is: > > baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/$basearch/os/ > > and it returns a 404. The normal release servers also return 404. I'm > using Fedora Core2 Test3 x86_64 > > If anyone knows of the correct links then that would be great. > > Thanks > ~kenny > I'm not using x86_64, but I believe this is the url that you need: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/x86_64/os/Fedora/RPMS/ You're missing "/fedora/RPMS/" at the end. Wayne Steenburg From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 01:02:17 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:02:17 -0700 Subject: yum returns 404 In-Reply-To: <1083545903.2271.1.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> References: <40959172.8010706@comcast.net> <1083545903.2271.1.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> Message-ID: <40959A19.80700@comcast.net> Hmmm, that's how your yum.conf is set? The headers are located in $releaseserver/headers/header.info . I wasn't aware that you could point yum directly at the RPM dir. I'll give it a shot tho. ... Nope, that didn't help. I'll keep mucking with it. Thx. Wayne Steenburg wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 20:25, Kenny Speer wrote: > >>Is anyone having issues with yum? The default page is: >> >>baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/$basearch/os/ >> >>and it returns a 404. The normal release servers also return 404. I'm >>using Fedora Core2 Test3 x86_64 >> >>If anyone knows of the correct links then that would be great. >> >>Thanks >>~kenny >> > > > I'm not using x86_64, but I believe this is the url that you need: > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/x86_64/os/Fedora/RPMS/ > > You're missing "/fedora/RPMS/" at the end. > > Wayne Steenburg > > From spam at tachegroup.com Mon May 3 01:02:37 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:02:37 -0400 Subject: DVD, XP and a 2 GB limit Message-ID: Might be OT, but I am attempting to go that DVD route. Only problem is that I need to get the DVD image to XP in order to burn the DVD. I attempt to ftp the image over, but it fails at 2GB. The drive on the XP side is NTFS, so I thought that it could handle the size. I have tried many FTP tools on the XP side to no avail. Should I be able to do this, or do I need to hook up the DVD drive to my Linux box. From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 01:05:39 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:05:39 -0700 Subject: DVD, XP and a 2 GB limit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40959AE3.3000203@comcast.net> Why in the world would you force yourself to use XP? And, XP will not display a file larger than 2GB in Explorer. It's a known issue therefore FTP fails. Try using CIFS/SMB if you absolutely must use that inferior OS. TGS wrote: > Might be OT, but I am attempting to go that DVD route. Only problem is that > I need to get the DVD image to XP in order to burn the DVD. I attempt to ftp > the image over, but it fails at 2GB. The drive on the XP side is NTFS, so I > thought that it could handle the size. I have tried many FTP tools on the XP > side to no avail. Should I be able to do this, or do I need to hook up the > DVD drive to my Linux box. > > From david at bus.ucf.edu Mon May 3 01:06:11 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:06:11 -0400 Subject: DVD, XP and a 2 GB limit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083546603.17319.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/2/2004 9:02 PM, TGS wrote: > Might be OT, but I am attempting to go that DVD route. Only problem is that > I need to get the DVD image to XP in order to burn the DVD. I attempt to ftp > the image over, but it fails at 2GB. The drive on the XP side is NTFS, so I > thought that it could handle the size. I have tried many FTP tools on the XP > side to no avail. Should I be able to do this, or do I need to hook up the > DVD drive to my Linux box. Have you tried sftp? I was able to transfer T# over sftp to my Windows XP machine without problems. I used pscp[1] but you could use just about any other program (SSH from ssh.com, etc). [1] http://shurl.us/ad/ Cheers, -- David From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Mon May 3 01:34:41 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:34:41 -0400 Subject: desktop switching tool still buggy In-Reply-To: <20040503000502.868C473707@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040503000502.868C473707@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083548002.6939.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> In my case, this workaround doesn't do the trick with today's updates. I can switch permanently to KDE and Xfce, but not permanetly to Gnome. So, while I can now activate switchdesk for the first time after today's updates, getting it to stick to a Gnome default continues to be difficult. As a temporary solution, would erasing this file knock me back to Gnome or cause damage? remove /root/.Xclients >See bugzilla # 121840. Version 4.0.3-1 fixes the basic problem, but >if you have selected KDE and then want to select Gnome from KDE, the >gui already shows Gnome as default, but to make it really change to >Gnome, you need to first select KDE and then select Gnome. It will >then switch to Gnome. The bug report listed above has this >information. From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Mon May 3 01:34:44 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:34:44 -0400 Subject: desktop switching tool still buggy In-Reply-To: <20040503000502.868C473707@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040503000502.868C473707@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083548080.6939.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> In my case, this workaround doesn't do the trick with today's updates. I can switch permanently to KDE and Xfce, but not permanetly to Gnome. So, while I can now activate switchdesk for the first time after today's updates, getting it to stick to a Gnome default continues to be difficult. As a temporary solution, would erasing this file knock me back to Gnome or cause damage? remove /root/.Xclients Rory >See bugzilla # 121840. Version 4.0.3-1 fixes the basic problem, but >if you have selected KDE and then want to select Gnome from KDE, the >gui already shows Gnome as default, but to make it really change to >Gnome, you need to first select KDE and then select Gnome. It will >then switch to Gnome. The bug report listed above has this >information. From fedora at andrewfarris.com Mon May 3 01:41:11 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:41:11 -0700 Subject: Rebuilding kernel-source for NVIDIA drivers help! In-Reply-To: <200405020123.23652.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <409422AE.50807@nullnetwork.com> <1083454046.15052.10.camel@CirithUngol> <200405020123.23652.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1083548470.7302.3.camel@CirithUngol> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 01:23 -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > I've had success with the above method also on my VIA Apollo Pro266T chipset. > If I logout though, it hangs. It works fine if I do not logout. Which is > okay for now. > > Byte Out of curiosity, are you running in runlevel 5 with GDM, KDM, or XDM? (which?) I am running primarily in runlevel 3, and use startx when necessary (which is starting xfce4 by exec of 'startxfce4' though ssh-agent). I am also using only agpgart support now, although in the past I have had excellent success using nVIDIA's agp driver instead. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From dsl at zai.com Mon May 3 02:00:40 2004 From: dsl at zai.com (David Lerner) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 22:00:40 -0400 Subject: [Core2Test3] Hard disk installation In-Reply-To: <20040502181641.35DF573FE9@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040502181641.35DF573FE9@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4095A7C8.2080602@zai.com> Stefan Lecho wrote: > After booting from the first installation CD and > selecting harddisk as installation source, the > following message is generated: "The Fedora Core > installation tree in that directory does not seem to > match your boot media." > > I've copied the downloaded iso images to a FAT32 > partition and selected that as installation source. > How should the installation tree look like? > The partition should contain the .iso files, not copies of the contents of these files. The may be in a directory such as FC2-test3-binary-i386. Sorry if my earlier post suggested otherwise. I tried this with an ext2 partition where I had originally downloaded the images. The loader paused for about 7 seconds before continuing with the install. Dave From dsl at zai.com Mon May 3 02:14:23 2004 From: dsl at zai.com (David Lerner) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 22:14:23 -0400 Subject: FC2-test3 install loader hangs if USB card reader is attached Message-ID: <4095AAFF.7010006@zai.com> The install loader hangs after probing the USB bus if my flash card reader is attached. The device has Vendor=058f ProdID=9360 Rev= 1.00. Work around is to unplug the flash card reader or use the noprobe install option. I will try to enter this with bugzilla when it is up. It appears to be down at this time. From dant at cdkkt.com Mon May 3 02:15:46 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 19:15:46 -0700 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on1st installandGRUBhang on 2nd install Message-ID: Hi, I tried EVERYTHING from grub-install, to interactive grub so something is very wrong and I am unable to understand it. The grub.conf file is correct, the MBR is written on the same drive as the /boot (although / is on a different drive, non-active parition) so I have no idea what the problem is. Heck, I have installed RH MANY times with no problems, so why is FCT2 failing for me? Any ideas??? Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Speer [mailto:kenny.speer at comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:11 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on1st installandGRUBhang on 2nd install Try 'man grub' And then run grub-install and select the root part and then re-install grub. My guess is that you selected to use the first sector of the boot partition instead of the MBR. ~kenny Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >Hi, > >Oh wow... that would imply that I would have to manually >scrub the hda drive and reinstall? I did previously had >RH9 on it and when I installed the FCT2, I did a new >install on it... you would think that the FC should >have partitioned, reformatted, and installed a new >MBR ??? > >Is there a way to force a reinstall of the MBR using >grub in linux rescue to be sure so that I can save >2+ hours of reinstall? > >Thanks, >Dan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Kloiber [mailto:ckloiber at ckloiber.com] >Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:00 PM >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >Subject: RE: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st >installandGRUBhang on 2nd install > > >On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 07:57, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > >>Hi all, >> >>I did a little more researching but nothing gave me any >>clues to what is going on and why GRUB hangs... I inserted >>CD1 and ran linux rescue and found: >> >>My drives and partitions are: >>/dev/hda1 /boot (active) >>/dev/hdb3 / >> >>/etc/grub.conf >># grub.conf generated by anaconda >># >># ... blah, blah... >>#boot=/dev/hda1 >>default=0 >>timeout=10 >>splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz >>title Fedora Core (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) >> root (hd0,0) >> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb >> initrd /initrd-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.img >> >>The above configuration file is correct, so... why >>is GRUB hanging when starting up? >> >>All I get on a boot up is all the usual pc bootup text, >>then after that a cleared screen with a black background >>and 4 characters in white: >> >>GRUB[] >> >>where [] is the block-cursor. >> >>Best regards, >>Dan >> >> > >#boot=/dev/hda1 > >I would guess that you have an older grub installed in /dev/hda that >does not know where your current system is installed. So it's never >getting as far as the grub in /dev/hda1. > > > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From maxer1 at xmission.com Mon May 3 02:34:32 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:34:32 -0600 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.347 and strange entries in kernel messages after latest selinux update Message-ID: <4095AFB8.1070009@xmission.com> I installed kernel 2.6.5-1.347 tonight and mind you I hve selinux=0 on kernel boot and I'm now getting selinux activated anyway? From messages: May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: Completing initialization. May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: Setting up existing superblocks. May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type selinuxfs), uses genfs_contexts May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev sda3, type ext3), uses xattr May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev ram0, type ext2), uses xattr May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type mqueue), not configured for labeling May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type hugetlbfs), not configured for labeling May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type devpts), uses transition SIDs May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type eventpollfs), uses genfs_contexts May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type pipefs), uses task SIDs May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type tmpfs), uses transition SIDs May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type futexfs), uses genfs_contexts May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type sockfs), uses task SIDs May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type proc), uses genfs_contexts May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type bdev), uses genfs_contexts May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type rootfs), uses genfs_contexts May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev , type sysfs), uses genfs_contexts May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: Vendor: LITE-ON Model: LTR-48125W Rev: VS06 May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: audit(1083528291.284:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init path=/dev/initctl dev=sda3 ino=65569 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=fifo_file May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: audit(1083528291.284:0): avc: denied { read write } for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init name=initctl dev=sda3 ino=65569 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:file_t tclass=fifo_file May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: audit(1083528292.497:0): avc: denied { syslog_console } for pid=672 exe=/bin/dmesg scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tclass=system May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: audit(1083528292.771:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=677 exe=/sbin/sysctl name=net dev= ino=-268435354 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:sysctl_net_t tclass=dir May 2 20:05:31 raxet sysctl: kernel.sysrq = 0 May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: audit(1083528292.771:0): avc: denied { write } for pid=677 exe=/sbin/sysctl name=ip_forward dev= ino=-268435331 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:sysctl_net_t tclass=file May 2 20:05:31 raxet sysctl: kernel.core_uses_pid = 1 May 2 20:05:35 raxet kernel: audit(1083528292.771:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=677 exe=/sbin/sysctl path=/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward dev= ino=-268435331 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:sysctl_net_t tclass=file May 2 20:05:31 raxet network: Setting network parameters: succeeded What's with this? RaXeT From daveg at psyton.com Mon May 3 02:42:24 2004 From: daveg at psyton.com (Dave Goldblatt) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 22:42:24 -0400 Subject: FC2-test3 install loader hangs if USB card reader is attached In-Reply-To: <4095AAFF.7010006@zai.com> References: <4095AAFF.7010006@zai.com> Message-ID: <4095B190.9030308@psyton.com> David Lerner wrote: > The install loader hangs after probing the USB bus if my flash card > reader is attached. The device has Vendor=058f ProdID=9360 Rev= 1.00. > > Work around is to unplug the flash card reader or use the noprobe > install option. > > I will try to enter this with bugzilla when it is up. It appears to be > down at this time. known bug: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119585 -dg- From csm at moongroup.com Mon May 3 03:07:16 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 23:07:16 -0400 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on1st installandGRUBhang on 2nd install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4095B764.1070202@moongroup.com> Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi, > > I tried EVERYTHING from grub-install, to interactive grub > so something is very wrong and I am unable to understand > it. The grub.conf file is correct, the MBR is written > on the same drive as the /boot (although / is on a different > drive, non-active parition) so I have no idea what the problem > is. Heck, I have installed RH MANY times with no problems, > so why is FCT2 failing for me? > > Any ideas??? Does it boot to this: grub> and then stop? If so you can try this... Type the following at the grub prompt: root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) If you get no errors then you can reboot and see if it works. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From austran at mts.net Mon May 3 03:09:27 2004 From: austran at mts.net (Janusz J Sadowski) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 22:09:27 -0500 Subject: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll References: Message-ID: <01d501c430bc$0b715c60$2708fea9@ripper> Hi, I've got RIVA TNT and it worked well with XFree86 4.3.0. As of Fedora Core 2 Test 3 it stsrts nicely with KDE and works until I actually run somethig. It locks my computer even if I want to run desktop config. I had exactly same story under NetBSD with XFree86 4.4.0 where it locked my PC when I tried to to do ls -lR / which was quite fast output. So I guess rhat the nv driver for this card is broken and it's not kernel-2.6 related. But if you have any solution (better driver) please post it. Thanks. Janusz. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon May 3 03:14:46 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 23:14:46 -0400 Subject: libusb and scanners - scanner module removed in 2.6 kernel Message-ID: <4095B926.5080301@insight.rr.com> I was trying to use bugzilla and it did not work correctly. Anyway, the version of SANE-Backends is 1.0.13 and there was a lead that a hotplug wrapper might be needed to fix the scanner problem using the 2.6 kernel and scanners. By checking out the SANE webpage, I found the below information. This is a recent change. Is this USB hotplugging fix what is needed? Currently, I run a chown user /proc/bus/usb/001/004 in my /etc/rc.local file to get my scanner working on boot. I leave it plugged into the same usb port. any help? Jim Latest News 2004-05-01: SANE-Backends-1.0.14 has been released * New backend: u12 * Updated backends: artec, artec_eplus48u, as6e, avision, canon630u, canon_pp, epson, fujitsu, gphoto2, gt68xx, hp, matsushita, mustek, mustek_pp, mustek_usb, plustek, plustek_pp, sm3600, snapscan, teco1, teco2, u12, umax, umax_pp, v4l. * Added scripts for USB hotplugging (Linux) * Added Danish translation. Updated other translations. * sane-find-scanner knows about more chipsets now. * Portability fixes (especially for MacOS X, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and OS/2). * Build system fixes. * Documentation updates. * Bugfixes. 2004-04-21: If you have trouble with SANE and USB scanners when updating from Linux 2.4 to 2.6 please read README.linux first. http://www.sane-project.org/README.linux excerpt: With Linux 2.4.* you could either use the kernel scanner module or libusb to access USB scanners. In Linux 2.6.4 the kernel scanner module was removed. Therefore with this and later kernels libusb must be used. While SANE automatically uses libusb when the library and its header file were present during the build of sane-backends, setting permissions will require some attention. The device files used by libusb are located in /proc/bus/usb/ (e.g. /proc/bus/usb/001/003). The exact file name can be found out by running sane-find-scanner which would print "libusb:001:003" in this case. While setting permissions with e.g. "chmod a+rw /proc/bus/usb/001/003" seems to work, this change is not permanent. The permissions will be reset when the scanner is replugged or Linux is rebooted. One solution to set permissions on-the-fly are the Linux hot-plug tools that should come with any current distribution. SANE itsself comes with a hotplug script and related documentaion in the tools/hotplug/ directory. Please refer to the README in that directory for the details. From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 03:19:13 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:19:13 -0700 Subject: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll In-Reply-To: <01d501c430bc$0b715c60$2708fea9@ripper> References: <01d501c430bc$0b715c60$2708fea9@ripper> Message-ID: <4095BA31.2050509@comcast.net> If you have an NVidia card you should use the drivers from NVidia. They are very good at providing linux drivers for their cards (unlike ATI). They have always worked great for me. Go to their website and download the drivers. If you need to, just use Vesa until you get the correct drivers. They will almost surely be better than the ones that ship with either XFree or the kernel. Janusz J Sadowski wrote: > Hi, > I've got RIVA TNT and it worked well with XFree86 4.3.0. As of Fedora Core 2 > Test 3 it stsrts nicely with KDE and works until I actually run somethig. It > locks my computer even if I want to run desktop config. I had exactly same > story under NetBSD with XFree86 4.4.0 where it locked my PC when I tried to > to do ls -lR / which was quite fast output. So I guess rhat the nv driver > for this card is broken and it's not kernel-2.6 related. But if you have any > solution (better driver) please post it. > > Thanks. > Janusz. > > From kedar at frys.com Sun May 2 02:20:36 2004 From: kedar at frys.com (Kedar Patankar) Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 19:20:36 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on emachines 6805 laptop In-Reply-To: <20040503013453.AE5CF73ADA@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040503013453.AE5CF73ADA@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> Hi, Just downloaded and installed FC2T3 x86_64 on my emachines 6805 laptop. The install went through almost w/o a hitch. After the reboot, it tried to start up the PCMCIA services and locked up. I then went into single user mode and killed the S24pcmcia. Haven't had any time to figure out why the PCMCIA locked up the machine. Another problem is that it doesn't recognize the ATI mobility radeon 9600. X runs in VESA mode and can only do 1024x768. I haven't tried out anything else yet. Any clues about how to make the X recognize radeon 9600 and atleast do 2D and 1280x800?? Regards/Kedar. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From masterra at m-ra.net Mon May 3 03:38:37 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 22:38:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: main menu icon Message-ID: This is another not-really-testing question, but how do you change the icon for the gnome main menu in FC2? i've tried the gconf instructions for fc1, as well as simply moving the icon.. neither works. Is the Ugly Red Hat now built right into gnome? :) From qralston+ml.redhat-fedora-test at andrew.cmu.edu Mon May 3 03:58:52 2004 From: qralston+ml.redhat-fedora-test at andrew.cmu.edu (James Ralston) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 23:58:52 -0400 Subject: test3 DVD ISO not a multiple of 32KiB blocks In-Reply-To: <40920189.4000005@cemery.org.uk> References: <16190000.1083308956@shieldbreaker.l33tskillz.org> <40920189.4000005@cemery.org.uk> Message-ID: <15110000.1083556732@shieldbreaker.l33tskillz.org> On 2004-04-30 at 08:34:33+01 Craig Emery wrote: > On 30/04/04 08:09, James Ralston wrote: > > > FC2-test3-i386-DVD.iso is 4379752448 bytes, which is *not* a > > multiple of 32KiB [...] Therefore, growisofs pads it by 18432 > > bytes up to 4379770880 bytes (133660 32KiB-sized blocks) when > > burning it. This makes it a pain to verify the MD5 checksums; > > instead of being able to just run md5sum on the device (e.g., > > "md5sum /dev/hdc"), you have to use dd to read only the size of > > the ISO (without the pad). > > Could this have contributed to my problem burning it? I doubt it, but if you want to test, just manually append 18432 bytes to FC2-test3-i386-DVD.iso, and try to burn it. James From dant at cdkkt.com Mon May 3 03:59:00 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 20:59:00 -0700 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUB hangs on 2nd install Message-ID: Hi, Yes, I did that. It did not work. I am re-installing for the third time taking all of the fedora defaults (it sets the paritions of MBR to /dev/hda, /boot to /dev/hda1, / and swap to /hdb1 and I manually selected the packages for server setup. Lets see how that flys.... I noticed tho, that grub-install and grub (interactive) NEVER touches the /boot/grub.conf file... hmmmmm. So if your grub.conf is missing or corrupted... oh gosh darn, too bad. Note: previously I fiddled with the paritions and noticed that the difference is that / was on /dev/hdb3 parition with no active set and the default suggested / is on /dev/hdb1, with active partition set. I took the suggested /boot to be /dev/hda1 with MBR for /dev/hda (so, I always took the default). I am wondering if the / partition *has* to be in the first partition of any drive and set to active as I know that /boot has to be the first partition and set to active. I thought that / parition can be anywhere it wants to be. Sheesh, I spent all day Sat/Sun and getting nowhere with FCT2! Bad-Karma day I suppose. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Mead [mailto:csm at moongroup.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:07 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on1st installandGRUBhangon 2nd install Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi, > > I tried EVERYTHING from grub-install, to interactive grub > so something is very wrong and I am unable to understand > it. The grub.conf file is correct, the MBR is written > on the same drive as the /boot (although / is on a different > drive, non-active parition) so I have no idea what the problem > is. Heck, I have installed RH MANY times with no problems, > so why is FCT2 failing for me? > > Any ideas??? Does it boot to this: grub> and then stop? If so you can try this... Type the following at the grub prompt: root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) If you get no errors then you can reboot and see if it works. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From nkadel at merl.com Mon May 3 03:59:07 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 23:59:07 -0400 Subject: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll References: <01d501c430bc$0b715c60$2708fea9@ripper> <4095BA31.2050509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00b901c430c2$fb8b8530$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny Speer" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:19 PM Subject: Re: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll > If you have an NVidia card you should use the drivers from NVidia. They > are very good at providing linux drivers for their cards (unlike ATI). > They have always worked great for me. Go to their website and download > the drivers. If you need to, just use Vesa until you get the correct > drivers. They will almost surely be better than the ones that ship with > either XFree or the kernel. Umm. The NVidia drivers are not full drivers. They are non-GPL kernel modules which provide the hooks to run their modified version of the OpenGL libraries, and they replace your OpenGL libraries without recording the change in your RPM package management. This means several things: 1: You can't debug or improve their drivers. 2: You can't distribute their kernel drivers as part of a GPL package, which makes it hard to sell the OS as a package with the drivers installted. 3: You can't integrate it into the Xconfigurator or other such tools, you have to edit your XF86Config or Xorg.conf files by hand. 4: If you update your OpenGL libraries, you have to first un-install and then after updating re-install the NVidia drivers. 5: If you update your kernel, you'll have to ercompile the NVidia kernel modules by hand. Etc., etc., etc. This is not "very good at providing Linux drivers", this is "giving a teensy-weensy acknowledgement of a growing market". From fedora at andrewfarris.com Mon May 3 03:59:22 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:59:22 -0700 Subject: ARRGH! Metacity is killing me. In-Reply-To: <1083498349.5228.2.camel@littlePiet> References: <20040430041143.GA2113@jadzia.bu.edu> <1083299232.9256.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083300174.24911.7.camel@CirithUngol> <1083498349.5228.2.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1083556762.7302.12.camel@CirithUngol> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 13:45 +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > Could you post a short hint how to install it? I know, it is on CD 4. > But I couldn't install due to a lot of dependency problems. > > > Thanks > > Peter I actually installed xfce4 prior to its inclusion with test3, so my install process was basically just 'allow it to update'. I did not install it on a clean test3 yet -- however I presume this process should work. Copy all of the below RPMs (hopefully they are all present on the cds) to a directory locally and install them all at once. Alternatively you could just run an rpm command that took all of these as arguments directly from the cd. I do not have the test3 cd handy to check whether any of these have been updated since test3 (I don't think so). Yum or apt should also be able to deal with these dependencies and drag in the files it needs if you choose a few of these. xffm-4.0.5-1 gtk-xfce-engine-2.1.7-1 xfwm4-themes-4.0.5-1 xfce4-themes-4.0.0-1 xfce-mcs-manager-4.0.5-1 xffm-icons-4.0.5-1 xfce-mcs-plugins-4.0.5-2 xfce4-iconbox-4.0.1-1 xfprint-4.0.1-1 libxfcegui4-devel-4.0.5-1 xfce4-panel-4.0.5-1 xfdesktop-4.0.5-2 xfce4-systray-4.0.1-1 xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.0.1-1 xfce-utils-4.0.5-1 xfce4-mixer-4.0.1-1 xfce-mcs-manager-devel-4.0.5-1 libxfce4util-4.0.5-1 libxfce4mcs-4.0.5-2 libxfce4util-devel-4.0.5-1 xfwm4-4.0.5-2 libxfce4mcs-devel-4.0.5-2 libxfcegui4-4.0.5-1 -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From dant at cdkkt.com Mon May 3 04:10:40 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:10:40 -0700 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUBhangs on 2nd install Message-ID: Hi all, Sigh... the 3rd time is a charm? Unfortunately not. I took all the defaults. FCT2 does NOT like Linux Systems 501. Sheesh. I think I am going back to RH/debian unless someone has a brilliant idea what the jeepers is going on and tell me how to fix this. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Daniel B. Thurman Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:59 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUBhangs on 2nd install Hi, Yes, I did that. It did not work. I am re-installing for the third time taking all of the fedora defaults (it sets the paritions of MBR to /dev/hda, /boot to /dev/hda1, / and swap to /hdb1 and I manually selected the packages for server setup. Lets see how that flys.... I noticed tho, that grub-install and grub (interactive) NEVER touches the /boot/grub.conf file... hmmmmm. So if your grub.conf is missing or corrupted... oh gosh darn, too bad. Note: previously I fiddled with the paritions and noticed that the difference is that / was on /dev/hdb3 parition with no active set and the default suggested / is on /dev/hdb1, with active partition set. I took the suggested /boot to be /dev/hda1 with MBR for /dev/hda (so, I always took the default). I am wondering if the / partition *has* to be in the first partition of any drive and set to active as I know that /boot has to be the first partition and set to active. I thought that / parition can be anywhere it wants to be. Sheesh, I spent all day Sat/Sun and getting nowhere with FCT2! Bad-Karma day I suppose. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Mead [mailto:csm at moongroup.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:07 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on1st installandGRUBhangon 2nd install Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi, > > I tried EVERYTHING from grub-install, to interactive grub > so something is very wrong and I am unable to understand > it. The grub.conf file is correct, the MBR is written > on the same drive as the /boot (although / is on a different > drive, non-active parition) so I have no idea what the problem > is. Heck, I have installed RH MANY times with no problems, > so why is FCT2 failing for me? > > Any ideas??? Does it boot to this: grub> and then stop? If so you can try this... Type the following at the grub prompt: root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) If you get no errors then you can reboot and see if it works. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From saphipps at mchsi.com Mon May 3 04:13:33 2004 From: saphipps at mchsi.com (Scott A Phipps) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 23:13:33 -0500 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <1083523712.10843.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040502175444.GA1995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083523712.10843.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083557613.20639.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've done a little more playing around, and here are my results. Glxgears does not crash my system, I ran it for 15 min and it ran the entire time. Tux Racer and Chromium both lock the box up shortly after a game is started. I ran the Glplanet screensaver for a bit and it ran fine for the five or some min I ran it, though it did hang hard when I was in the screensaver selection window and click on one of the gl screensavers, which brought up the little preview and a freeze. Scott From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 04:16:44 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:16:44 -0700 Subject: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll In-Reply-To: <00b901c430c2$fb8b8530$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <01d501c430bc$0b715c60$2708fea9@ripper> <4095BA31.2050509@comcast.net> <00b901c430c2$fb8b8530$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <4095C7AC.9020409@comcast.net> You're kidding right? Did you RTFM on the drivers? Run their "binary" with -x and guess what? You have the full source, complete and ready to be hacked which I have done in order to get APM working when they decided to comment all of the code out (i admit quite awhile ago). Try it again, while they might not be GPL (i didn't bother to verify) they do provide the source. I don't have an NVidia in this laptop but here is your source: [kspeer at ks-fedlin64 nv]$ ls conftest.sh nv.c nv-misc.h os-interface.h gcc-version-check.c nv.h nvtypes.h os-registry.c makedevices.sh nv-kernel.o os-agp.c README Makefile nv-linux.h os-agp.h rmretval.h Makefile.kbuild nv-memdbg.h os-interface.c [kspeer at ks-fedlin64 nv]$ pwd /home/downloads/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-5332-pkg0/usr/src/nv [kspeer at ks-fedlin64 nv]$ On your other pointsL 1. have fun, there it is 2. ok, you got me, but in reality if you really want optimized drivers you always need to go to the vendor and they hardly want to let folks redistribute due to business logic 3. if you're looking for src, why is this a big deal? With many many features you need to mod config files by hand, this is the way of linux today 4. ok, well the average user doesn't update libraries making point 3 moot, removing and re-installing a kernel module can be easily scripted for anyone who cares to do so 5. don't update your kernel as often, the average user doesn't change their kernel, in fact this is why major vendors such as RH have the *kernel* as skipped packages as the default for updates. You could find many many ways to bash vendors, I personally would rather like to see more act like NVidia. Where are my Broadcom drivers for 54G? Or the ATI drivers? Or my ACPI support from my laptop vendor? NVidia is farther along than any other vendor I know of in supporting Linux. Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenny Speer" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:19 PM > Subject: Re: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll > > > >>If you have an NVidia card you should use the drivers from NVidia. They >>are very good at providing linux drivers for their cards (unlike ATI). >>They have always worked great for me. Go to their website and download >>the drivers. If you need to, just use Vesa until you get the correct >>drivers. They will almost surely be better than the ones that ship with >> either XFree or the kernel. > > > Umm. The NVidia drivers are not full drivers. They are non-GPL kernel > modules which provide the hooks to run their modified version of the OpenGL > libraries, and they replace your OpenGL libraries without recording the > change in your RPM package management. This means several things: > > 1: You can't debug or improve their drivers. > 2: You can't distribute their kernel drivers as part of a GPL package, > which makes it hard to sell the OS as a package with the drivers installted. > 3: You can't integrate it into the Xconfigurator or other such tools, > you have to edit your XF86Config or Xorg.conf files by hand. > 4: If you update your OpenGL libraries, you have to first un-install and > then after updating re-install the NVidia drivers. > 5: If you update your kernel, you'll have to ercompile the NVidia kernel > modules by hand. > > Etc., etc., etc. This is not "very good at providing Linux drivers", this is > "giving a teensy-weensy acknowledgement of a growing market". > > From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 04:18:42 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:18:42 -0700 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUBhangs on 2nd install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4095C822.3020807@comcast.net> what exactly do you see when you boot? do you have a grub> or nothing at all? Also, try using a single hard drive, maybe there is a bug there with multiple spindles. (ofcourse /dev/hda is the hard drive, /dev/hda1 is a partition on that hard drive, /dev/hda2 is another partition on the same hard drive, /dev/hdb is a different hard drive) Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi all, > > Sigh... the 3rd time is a charm? Unfortunately not. I took all > the defaults. FCT2 does NOT like Linux Systems 501. Sheesh. > I think I am going back to RH/debian unless someone has a brilliant > idea what the jeepers is going on and tell me how to fix this. > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel B. Thurman > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:59 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and > GRUBhangs on 2nd install > > > Hi, > > Yes, I did that. It did not work. I am re-installing for the third > time taking all of the fedora defaults (it sets the paritions of > MBR to /dev/hda, /boot to /dev/hda1, / and swap to /hdb1 and I manually > selected the packages for server setup. Lets see how that flys.... > > I noticed tho, that grub-install and grub (interactive) NEVER touches > the /boot/grub.conf file... hmmmmm. So if your grub.conf is missing > or corrupted... oh gosh darn, too bad. > > Note: previously I fiddled with the paritions and noticed that the > difference > is that / was on /dev/hdb3 parition with no active set and the default > suggested > / is on /dev/hdb1, with active partition set. I took the suggested > /boot to be > /dev/hda1 with MBR for /dev/hda (so, I always took the default). I am > wondering > if the / partition *has* to be in the first partition of any drive and > set to active > as I know that /boot has to be the first partition and set to active. I > thought > that / parition can be anywhere it wants to be. > > Sheesh, I spent all day Sat/Sun and getting nowhere with FCT2! > Bad-Karma day I suppose. > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Mead [mailto:csm at moongroup.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:07 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on1st > installandGRUBhangon 2nd install > > > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I tried EVERYTHING from grub-install, to interactive grub >>so something is very wrong and I am unable to understand >>it. The grub.conf file is correct, the MBR is written >>on the same drive as the /boot (although / is on a different >>drive, non-active parition) so I have no idea what the problem >>is. Heck, I have installed RH MANY times with no problems, >>so why is FCT2 failing for me? >> >>Any ideas??? > > > Does it boot to this: > > grub> > > and then stop? > > If so you can try this... > > Type the following at the grub prompt: > > root (hd0,0) > setup (hd0) > > If you get no errors then you can reboot and see if it works. > From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 04:27:04 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:27:04 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on emachines 6805 laptop In-Reply-To: <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> References: <20040503013453.AE5CF73ADA@hormel.redhat.com> <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> Message-ID: <4095CA18.4090800@comcast.net> yup, you need a couple patches. I have the same laptop. attached is my kernel config as well as the patches you need: copy the patches to the /usr/src/linux directory if it doesn't exist do this: cd /usr/src ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.327 linux copy config-2.6.5-1.327custom to /usr/src/linux/.config cd linux patch -p1 < patch-amd64-via-ioapic patch -p1 < patch-m680x-pcmcia-acpi-fix make menuconfig [immediately quit] make && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install make install you can also just do: make && make modules_install but I prefer the oldschool method Then use my xorg.conf which is attached. Should work without a problem. Although I am using an external DRI which if you have issues I can point you to l8r. One thing I am also using is pcmcia-cs but I'm not sure it's required. I'm writing this via an Intersil 802.11 pcmcia via orinico_cs. Kedar Patankar wrote: > Hi, > > Just downloaded and installed FC2T3 x86_64 on my emachines 6805 laptop. > The install went through almost w/o a hitch. After the reboot, it tried > to start up the PCMCIA services and locked up. I then went into single > user mode and killed the S24pcmcia. Haven't had any time to figure out > why the PCMCIA locked up the machine. > > Another problem is that it doesn't recognize the ATI mobility radeon > 9600. X runs in VESA mode and can only do 1024x768. I haven't tried out > anything else yet. Any clues about how to make the X recognize radeon > 9600 and atleast do 2D and 1280x800?? > > Regards/Kedar. > > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: config-2.6.5-1.327custom URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: patch-amd64-via-ioapic URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xorg.conf.backup URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xorg.conf URL: From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 04:36:39 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:36:39 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on emachines 6805 laptop In-Reply-To: <4095CB49.6020400@comcast.net> References: <20040503013453.AE5CF73ADA@hormel.redhat.com> <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> <4095CA18.4090800@comcast.net> <4095CB49.6020400@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4095CC57.90209@comcast.net> Uh, just realized I sent you the wrong xorg.conf. Do NOT use the .backup instead use the xorg.conf I sent but change ati->radeon in the Device section. Sorry about that. [truncated message] From nkadel at merl.com Mon May 3 04:39:46 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 00:39:46 -0400 Subject: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll References: <01d501c430bc$0b715c60$2708fea9@ripper> <4095BA31.2050509@comcast.net><00b901c430c2$fb8b8530$b28ccb89@zeppo> <4095C7AC.9020409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00d401c430c8$a981e030$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny Speer" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:16 AM Subject: Re: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll > You're kidding right? Did you RTFM on the drivers? Run their "binary" > with -x and guess what? You have the full source, complete and ready to > be hacked which I have done in order to get APM working when they > decided to comment all of the code out (i admit quite awhile ago). Try > it again, while they might not be GPL (i didn't bother to verify) they > do provide the source. I don't have an NVidia in this laptop but here > is your source: Look again. A lot of the driver magic is buried in the OpenGL libraries: the kernel modules provide just enough hooks for the libraries to access them, and the *libraries* are distributed as closed source binaries only. That is not open source, it's as little source as they can publish so that the varied Linux distributions can use it, barely. Please also review the license agreements with their source and with their installers. It's not *nasty*, but it's a far cry from open source. > On your other pointsL > 1. have fun, there it is > 2. ok, you got me, but in reality if you really want optimized drivers > you always need to go to the vendor and they hardly want to let folks > redistribute due to business logic > 3. if you're looking for src, why is this a big deal? With many many > features you need to mod config files by hand, this is the way of linux > today For some features, true. But the XFree86 and now the Xorg and other configuration tools get better and better at writing that stuff into the tools. It's exactly the closed nature of the chipsets and the API's that make creating such configuration tools so very difficult and inevitably well behind the cutting edge of the most recent chipsets. I strongly urge you to look at Eric Raymand's rant about the typical configuration tool from the open source community: it's hard to make friendly, robust configuration tools if the manufacturer's won't publish their specs. > 4. ok, well the average user doesn't update libraries making point 3 > moot, removing and re-installing a kernel module can be easily scripted > for anyone who cares to do so Guess again. They update the libraries as part of the standard OS updates, for example when RedHat 8.0 went from XFree86 4.2.0 to 4.2.1. I ran into several different NVidia driver "enhanced" machines that had their X-Windows blow up and needed some RPM re-insallation and NVidia re-installation to fix. > 5. don't update your kernel as often, the average user doesn't change > their kernel, in fact this is why major vendors such as RH have the > *kernel* as skipped packages as the default for updates. ??? Friend, if you run servers that other people log into, you *must* keep your kernels up-to-date at least for security reasons. This includes "logging in" via HTTP and FTP, since some of the "local root" exploits really take very little access. > You could find many many ways to bash vendors, I personally would rather > like to see more act like NVidia. Where are my Broadcom drivers for > 54G? Or the ATI drivers? Or my ACPI support from my laptop vendor? > NVidia is farther along than any other vendor I know of in supporting Linux. Not compared to Siig and 3Ware: both are fabulous about Linux support (although they make IDE/SCSI/RAID cards, not video). For video, the selection is tougher, I admit. However, Virge actually used to be pretty good abou Linux. From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 04:41:21 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:41:21 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on emachines 6805 laptop In-Reply-To: <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> References: <20040503013453.AE5CF73ADA@hormel.redhat.com> <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> Message-ID: <4095CD71.3080209@comcast.net> ok, sending this again since the last msg was too large: yup, you need a couple patches. I have the same laptop. attached is my kernel config as well as the patches you need: copy the patches to the /usr/src/linux directory if it doesn't exist do this: cd /usr/src ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.327 linux copy config-2.6.5-1.327custom to /usr/src/linux/.config cd linux patch -p1 < patch-amd64-via-ioapic patch -p1 < patch-m680x-pcmcia-acpi-fix make menuconfig [immediately quit] make && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install make install you can also just do: make && make modules_install but I prefer the oldschool method Then use my xorg.conf which is attached. Should work without a problem. Although I am using an external DRI which if you have issues I can point you to l8r. One thing I am also using is pcmcia-cs but I'm not sure it's required. I'm writing this via an Intersil 802.11 pcmcia via orinico_cs. Kedar Patankar wrote: > Hi, > > Just downloaded and installed FC2T3 x86_64 on my emachines 6805 laptop. > The install went through almost w/o a hitch. After the reboot, it tried > to start up the PCMCIA services and locked up. I then went into single > user mode and killed the S24pcmcia. Haven't had any time to figure out > why the PCMCIA locked up the machine. > > Another problem is that it doesn't recognize the ATI mobility radeon > 9600. X runs in VESA mode and can only do 1024x768. I haven't tried out > anything else yet. Any clues about how to make the X recognize radeon > 9600 and atleast do 2D and 1280x800?? > > Regards/Kedar. > > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: config-2.6.5-1.327custom URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: patch-m680x-pcmcia-acpi-fix URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: patch-amd64-via-ioapic URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xorg.conf URL: From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 04:47:05 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:47:05 -0700 Subject: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll In-Reply-To: <00d401c430c8$a981e030$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <01d501c430bc$0b715c60$2708fea9@ripper> <4095BA31.2050509@comcast.net><00b901c430c2$fb8b8530$b28ccb89@zeppo> <4095C7AC.9020409@comcast.net> <00d401c430c8$a981e030$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <4095CEC9.40702@comcast.net> Well, I won't argue with alot of your points, only the update the kernel on server issue. For externel servers, I agree you must keep the servers secure, but this isn't necessarily accomplished by upgrading the kernel. On production servers, the kernel is the last thing to get updated, why? Because it's a running server which usually means revenue. For internal servers, you have physical security, and since I primarily work for startups I don't have this issue (I also can't stand deprecated software, so I go against my own advice in this area). But I have run into many many customers who simply refuse to touch a running server unless there is an absolute reason too (like it's about to break). In any event, I do agree with many of your points. I just wish that ATI gave me as much as NVidia does. And to stay free from the M$ chains I will gladly deal with all of these issues and more. ;) ~kenny Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenny Speer" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:16 AM > Subject: Re: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll > > > >>You're kidding right? Did you RTFM on the drivers? Run their "binary" >>with -x and guess what? You have the full source, complete and ready to >>be hacked which I have done in order to get APM working when they >>decided to comment all of the code out (i admit quite awhile ago). Try >>it again, while they might not be GPL (i didn't bother to verify) they >>do provide the source. I don't have an NVidia in this laptop but here >>is your source: > > > Look again. A lot of the driver magic is buried in the OpenGL libraries: the > kernel modules provide just enough hooks for the libraries to access them, > and the *libraries* are distributed as closed source binaries only. That is > not open source, it's as little source as they can publish so that the > varied Linux distributions can use it, barely. > > Please also review the license agreements with their source and with their > installers. It's not *nasty*, but it's a far cry from open source. > > >>On your other pointsL >>1. have fun, there it is >>2. ok, you got me, but in reality if you really want optimized drivers >>you always need to go to the vendor and they hardly want to let folks >>redistribute due to business logic >>3. if you're looking for src, why is this a big deal? With many many >>features you need to mod config files by hand, this is the way of linux >>today > > > For some features, true. But the XFree86 and now the Xorg and other > configuration tools get better and better at writing that stuff into the > tools. It's exactly the closed nature of the chipsets and the API's that > make creating such configuration tools so very difficult and inevitably well > behind the cutting edge of the most recent chipsets. I strongly urge you to > look at Eric Raymand's rant about the typical configuration tool from the > open source community: it's hard to make friendly, robust configuration > tools if the manufacturer's won't publish their specs. > > >>4. ok, well the average user doesn't update libraries making point 3 >>moot, removing and re-installing a kernel module can be easily scripted >>for anyone who cares to do so > > > Guess again. They update the libraries as part of the standard OS updates, > for example when RedHat 8.0 went from XFree86 4.2.0 to 4.2.1. I ran into > several different NVidia driver "enhanced" machines that had their X-Windows > blow up and needed some RPM re-insallation and NVidia re-installation to > fix. > > >>5. don't update your kernel as often, the average user doesn't change >>their kernel, in fact this is why major vendors such as RH have the >>*kernel* as skipped packages as the default for updates. > > > ??? Friend, if you run servers that other people log into, you *must* keep > your kernels up-to-date at least for security reasons. This includes > "logging in" via HTTP and FTP, since some of the "local root" exploits > really take very little access. > > >>You could find many many ways to bash vendors, I personally would rather >>like to see more act like NVidia. Where are my Broadcom drivers for >>54G? Or the ATI drivers? Or my ACPI support from my laptop vendor? >>NVidia is farther along than any other vendor I know of in supporting > > Linux. > > Not compared to Siig and 3Ware: both are fabulous about Linux support > (although they make IDE/SCSI/RAID cards, not video). For video, the > selection is tougher, I admit. However, Virge actually used to be pretty > good abou Linux. > > From gillb4 at telusplanet.net Mon May 3 05:05:26 2004 From: gillb4 at telusplanet.net (Bob Gill) Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 23:05:26 -0600 Subject: Burning Disk 1 Message-ID: <1083560726.16233.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi. I recently downloaded Fedora Core 2 test3 for testing. I checked all of the files I downloaded with md5checksum and all came out ok. The problem I have is burning the software from disk 1. Disks 2,3 and 4 all burned successfully, and checksums for the disks are ok. I burned disk1 onto a 650MB CDRW using cdrecord -v -v -v -v -speed=4 -dev=/dev/cdrom1 -blank=fast -overburn FC2-test3-i386-disc1.iso. Checksum fails. I've used different CDRW disks, and 2 CDR (700MB) disks, with all burns/checksums bad. I can go back and burn 650MB of other data to the CDRW disk without problems. Is there something special that I have to do to burn disk1? I'm currently running FC1 updated with yum, and Kernel 2.6.6-rc3-bk3. I have also installed hotplug/udev (without problems). I understand that the disk1 iso might not fit on a 650MB CDRW, but after 2 bad burns on CDR, I'm asking questions. The error message I get when the burn dies is: [root at localhost temp]# cdrecord -v -speed=4 -blank=fast -overburn -dev=/dev/cdrom1 FC2-test3-i386-disc1.iso Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a19 (i686-redhat-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 J rg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '/dev/cdrom1' devname: '/dev/cdrom1' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (schily - Red Hat-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.75-RH '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c 1.75 02/10/21 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info : 'MITSUMI ' Identifikation : 'CR-4804TE ' Revision : '2.4C' Device seems to be: Philips CDD-522. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC SWABAUDIO Supported modes: TAO PACKET RAW/R16 RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1343488 = 1312 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 631 MB Total size: 725 MB (71:53.00) = 323475 sectors Lout start: 725 MB (71:55/00) = 323475 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3) ATIP start of lead in: -11634 (97:26/66) ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74) Disk type: Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 3 Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 36374 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 431 of 631 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 99%] 4.0x.cdrecord: Success. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 03 5F 47 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) resid: 63488 cmd finished after 0.401s timeout 40s write track data: error after 452605952 bytes cdrecord: A write error occured. cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. Writing time: 748.354s Average write speed 5.8x. Min drive buffer fill was 94% Fixating... Fixating time: 62.244s cdrecord: fifo had 7193 puts and 7130 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 7084 times full, min fill was 95%. [root at localhost temp]# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 18625588 8088720 9590736 46% / /dev/hda1 29249 19443 8296 71% /boot none 518664 0 518664 0% /dev/shm /dev/hdb1 80033348 59618600 20414748 75% /data /dev/sdb1 134210908 44605708 89605200 34% /mnt/fire /dev/sda1 134210908 30327052 103883856 23% /mnt/fire2 [root at localhost temp]# eject /mnt/cdrom1 [root at localhost temp]# mount /mnt/cdrom1 df [root at localhost temp]# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 18625588 8088720 9590736 46% / /dev/hda1 29249 19443 8296 71% /boot none 518664 0 518664 0% /dev/shm /dev/hdb1 80033348 59618600 20414748 75% /data /dev/sdb1 134210908 44605708 89605200 34% /mnt/fire /dev/sda1 134210908 30327052 103883856 23% /mnt/fire2 /dev/cdrom1 646946 646946 0 100% /mnt/cdrom1 4ae4c6449d68933309968ad5c545c668 FC2-test3-i386-disc1.iso a4966b24af192952de3016d96153323f FC2-test3-i386-disc2.iso 83e93f40e6b945e5a2c8cc04772ab085 FC2-test3-i386-disc3.iso baba457bb27a7e9ed1a9832f6d1659cf FC2-test3-i386-disc4.iso ----------------------------------------------------------- cdrecord -prcap -dev=/dev/cdrom1 shows: Maximum read speed: 4234 kB/s (CD 24x, DVD 3x) Maximum write speed: 706 kB/s (CD 4x, DVD 0x) Buffer size in KB: 2048 (so I can write at 4x without problems). The writer is (actually) an HP CD-writer Plus. Thanks, Bob From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 05:26:55 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 13:26:55 +0800 Subject: FYI: Script I wrote- Fedorasync.sh Message-ID: <1083562015.29548.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> For those who don't know rsync or mkisofs well, but want to make daily dvd isos of rawhide, and as a side benefit have a local yum repo, I wrote a script for you. ftp://people.redhat.com/ckloiber/FedoraSync.sh Usage: FedoraSync.sh Options: -live No changes are made to the local copy without this. -del Passes --delete to rsync, files not existing at the source are removed in the local tree. -paranoid 'touch' all local files, makes rsync verify them and avoids corruption. Takes a little longer, but I highly recommend it. -iso After rsync is complete, create a dvd iso from the local tree. *Note: -iso enables -live, -del, and -paranoid -ssh Passes -e ssh to rsync, so you can use rsync over ssh connections. arch is one of: i386, x86_64, or ppc (ppc untested) Options can now be given in any order, or ommitted to use built-in defaults. I recommend you start by copying your latest CD's or DVD to /var/ftp/pub/rawhide/$ARCH, (as that is the default local directory my script uses) then run the script to update that copy to save on bandwidth a bit. Enjoy, but please use an rsync mirror near you. As configured it will use rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core-development but we don't want to overload that mirror. Other rsync mirrors can be found at: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html You may have to hunt a bit for the right path at first. When you get it right, running it with just -del will show which old files will be deleted, and which will be created. You should not see the arch in the path of any output. You will see Fedora, isolinux, headers, etc at the beginning of the test output. Running with -live (or -live -del -paranoid) will update the local tree, but not make an iso. Using -iso will enable -live -del and -paranoid automatically, and build an iso suitable for booting (Yes, it works for me on both i386 and x86_64). Speaking of x86_64 you can override the arch of the system running the script to download and burn an x86_64 iso. You might be able to make an iso for ppc, however I doubt it will boot unless isolinux is supported there as well. (I have not tested ppc at all as I don't have one. If you make it work, send patches!) As a side benefit to all this, the yum headers get downloaded and placed in your anonymous ftp tree, as well as on the DVD iso. You can then use either as a local yum repository, further saving bandwidth if you have many machines to update. Have fun, I am. :) -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 05:51:21 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 13:51:21 +0800 Subject: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st installandGRUBhang on 2nd install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083563481.29548.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 08:07, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi, > > Oh wow... that would imply that I would have to manually > scrub the hda drive and reinstall? I did previously had > RH9 on it and when I installed the FCT2, I did a new > install on it... you would think that the FC should > have partitioned, reformatted, and installed a new > MBR ??? > > Is there a way to force a reinstall of the MBR using > grub in linux rescue to be sure so that I can save > 2+ hours of reinstall? > > Thanks, > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Kloiber [mailto:ckloiber at ckloiber.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:00 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: RE: Installation of FC T2: GRUB interactive on 1st > installandGRUBhang on 2nd install > > > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 07:57, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I did a little more researching but nothing gave me any > > clues to what is going on and why GRUB hangs... I inserted > > CD1 and ran linux rescue and found: > > > > My drives and partitions are: > > /dev/hda1 /boot (active) > > /dev/hdb3 / > > > > /etc/grub.conf > > # grub.conf generated by anaconda > > # > > # ... blah, blah... > > #boot=/dev/hda1 > > default=0 > > timeout=10 > > splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > > title Fedora Core (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) > > root (hd0,0) > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb > > initrd /initrd-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.img > > > > The above configuration file is correct, so... why > > is GRUB hanging when starting up? > > > > All I get on a boot up is all the usual pc bootup text, > > then after that a cleared screen with a black background > > and 4 characters in white: > > > > GRUB[] > > > > where [] is the block-cursor. > > > > Best regards, > > Dan > > #boot=/dev/hda1 > > I would guess that you have an older grub installed in /dev/hda that > does not know where your current system is installed. So it's never > getting as far as the grub in /dev/hda1. > > -- > Chris Kloiber A simple 'fdisk /mbr' from a Windows 98 emergency boot floppy should suffice if you want to keep grub on /dev/hda1. Otherwise adjust grub.conf to use /dev/hda, and run 'grub-install /dev/hda' from rescue mode. -- Chris Kloiber From antti.aspinen at phnet.fi Mon May 3 05:55:08 2004 From: antti.aspinen at phnet.fi (Antti Aspinen) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 08:55:08 +0300 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 Message-ID: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello I have two questions. First one is that will nVidia drivers work with Fedora Core 2? And what about ATi drivers? I'd like to know because I heard that normal X (Xfree86?)in Fedora is being replaced by some X.org and I don't have any information about that all. So if some one can tell if those drivers work (I hope for my friend that ATi will work and I hope for my self that nVidia works too.) and explain this X.org Thank you -Antti- From linux00 at kornet.net Mon May 3 06:03:39 2004 From: linux00 at kornet.net (sangu) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 15:03:39 +0900 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.347 and strange entries in kernel messages after latest selinux update In-Reply-To: <1083551721478779845.0.ppp7@ppp7> References: <1083551721478779845.0.ppp7@ppp7> Message-ID: <1083564219.2081.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> 2004-05-02 (?) 20:34 -0600?, RaXeT ???: > I installed kernel 2.6.5-1.347 tonight and mind you I hve selinux=0 on > kernel boot and I'm now getting selinux activated anyway? [...] > What's with this? > > RaXeT http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ Newly added to Fedora Core, you can specify the SELinux mode using the configuration file /etc/sysconfig/selinux. # This is a comment field in /etc/sysconfig/selinux # # Allowable values are: # enforcing - enables enforcing mode # permissive - enables permissive mode # disabled - disables SELinux SELINUX= Please add disabled value. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 06:03:09 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:03:09 +0800 Subject: FC2T3 on emachines 6805 laptop In-Reply-To: <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> References: <20040503013453.AE5CF73ADA@hormel.redhat.com> <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> Message-ID: <1083564189.29548.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 10:20, Kedar Patankar wrote: > Hi, > > Just downloaded and installed FC2T3 x86_64 on my emachines 6805 laptop. > The install went through almost w/o a hitch. After the reboot, it tried > to start up the PCMCIA services and locked up. I then went into single > user mode and killed the S24pcmcia. Haven't had any time to figure out > why the PCMCIA locked up the machine. > > Another problem is that it doesn't recognize the ATI mobility radeon > 9600. X runs in VESA mode and can only do 1024x768. I haven't tried out > anything else yet. Any clues about how to make the X recognize radeon > 9600 and atleast do 2D and 1280x800?? > > Regards/Kedar. See my homepage: http://www.ckloiber.com Basically disable PCMCIA and Kudzu services, and add boot options pci=noacpi,usepirqmask then on a wired network download my custom kernel and install it. Then re-enable PCMCIA (leave kudzu off, it explodes violently) and reboot. Keep the new kernel boot options. PCMCIA will work, even with a PCMCIA wireless card in it. The Broadcom 54G card is useless. As for the video, run system-config-display and choose the Radeon 9600 from the list of cards. Select the Generic LCD at 1024x768. Then hand edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and remove any XF86Config you may find) Comment out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines (if they aren't already) xorg will then just do the right thing. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 06:10:46 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:10:46 +0800 Subject: FC2T3 on emachines 6805 laptop In-Reply-To: <4095CA18.4090800@comcast.net> References: <20040503013453.AE5CF73ADA@hormel.redhat.com> <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> <4095CA18.4090800@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1083564646.29548.63.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:27, Kenny Speer wrote: > yup, you need a couple patches. I have the same laptop. attached is my > kernel config as well as the patches you need: All done on my website: http://www.ckloiber.com > Then use my xorg.conf which is attached. Should work without a problem. > Although I am using an external DRI which if you have issues I can > point you to l8r. Woah, you have DRI working? This I must know. Unreal Tournament 2004 awaits... > One thing I am also using is pcmcia-cs but I'm not sure it's required. No, the stock PAMCIA works with my kernel. > I'm writing this via an Intersil 802.11 pcmcia via orinico_cs. That's what I use too. -- Chris Kloiber From markf78 at yahoo.com Mon May 3 06:46:51 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 23:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: bug in FC2 test3 libmng package when compiling xine? Message-ID: <20040503064652.77888.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- is this a bug in FC2 test3? when running the ./configure script for xine i get the following error: checking for mng_initialize in -lmng... yes checking libmng.h usability... no checking libmng.h presence... no checking for libmng.h... no *** All libmng dependent parts will be disabled *** but: [root at markf78 xine-lib-1-rc4]# rpm -q libmng libmng-devel libmng-static libmng-1.0.4-5.1 libmng-devel-1.0.4-5.1 libmng-static-1.0.4-5.1 also, off topic to this list but relevant to the compilation of xine so i'll throw this in here for good measure: checking for Ogg... yes checking for Theora... no *** Could not run Theora test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means Theora was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved Theora since it was installed. *** All OGG/THEORA dependent parts will be disabled *** any ideas where to find RPMS for Theora? i already checked redhat.com and freshrpms.net but no such luck... any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated. mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 3 07:23:03 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 09:23:03 +0200 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUBhangs on 2nd install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4095F357.5070106@gmx.de> Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >Hi all, > >Sigh... the 3rd time is a charm? Unfortunately not. I took all >the defaults. FCT2 does NOT like Linux Systems 501. Sheesh. >I think I am going back to RH/debian unless someone has a brilliant >idea what the jeepers is going on and tell me how to fix this. > >Dan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Daniel B. Thurman >Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:59 PM >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and >GRUBhangs on 2nd install > > thanks for using "X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0" but "RE:" should probably be "Re:" you are breaking the threads in the archives http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/thread.html and in mozilla a really short subject :-) -- shrek-m From bfrantzdale at hmc.edu Mon May 3 07:25:59 2004 From: bfrantzdale at hmc.edu (Ben FrantzDale) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 00:25:59 -0700 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? Message-ID: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> I just got Test 3 Installed. Great work! Is there any reason CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN isn't enabled in the kernel? I ask because I tried to get my SanDistk ImageMate (CF/SD USB card reader) working. It is supposed to show up as two SCSI devices, sda1 and sdb1, but apparently that only happens if CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is enabled in the kernel; without it, only the CF slot works, showing up as /dev/sda1. See: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6687 -- Ben From stlecho at yahoo.com Mon May 3 07:31:44 2004 From: stlecho at yahoo.com (Stefan Lecho) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 00:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Core2Test3] Hard disk installation In-Reply-To: <4095A7C8.2080602@zai.com> Message-ID: <20040503073144.38535.qmail@web60001.mail.yahoo.com> --- David Lerner wrote: > Stefan Lecho wrote: > > > After booting from the first installation CD and > > selecting harddisk as installation source, the > > following message is generated: "The Fedora Core > > installation tree in that directory does not seem > to > > match your boot media." > > > > I've copied the downloaded iso images to a FAT32 > > partition and selected that as installation > source. > > How should the installation tree look like? > > > The partition should contain the .iso files, not > copies of the contents > of these files. The may be in a directory such as > FC2-test3-binary-i386. > Sorry if my earlier post suggested otherwise. My partition contains the 4 .iso files and not the content of these files. The 4 files are in the root directory of the partition. Is the 'FC2-test3-binary-i386' directory necessarry? > I tried this with an ext2 partition where I had > originally downloaded > the images. The loader paused for about 7 seconds > before continuing with > the install. My partition is a FAT32 partition, this allows me to copy the downloaded .iso files to that partition. But I suppose that Fedora is capable of reading data from a FAT32 partition. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 3 07:40:45 2004 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 09:40:45 +0200 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install and GRUBhangs on 2nd install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083570045.3508.29.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 06:10, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi all, > > Sigh... the 3rd time is a charm? Unfortunately not. I took all > the defaults. FCT2 does NOT like Linux Systems 501. Sheesh. > I think I am going back to RH/debian unless someone has a brilliant > idea what the jeepers is going on and tell me how to fix this. > > Dan Just a wild thought: get yourself a bootable Dos floppy, boot it and do fdisk /mbr to absolutely destroy any mbr stuff lurking around. Then reinstall grub with grub-install. Good luck, Patrick From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 07:44:54 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 15:44:54 +0800 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1083570294.29548.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 15:25, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > I just got Test 3 Installed. Great work! > > > Is there any reason CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN isn't enabled in the kernel? > > I ask because I tried to get my SanDistk ImageMate (CF/SD USB card > reader) working. It is supposed to show up as two SCSI devices, sda1 and > sdb1, but apparently that only happens if CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is > enabled in the kernel; without it, only the CF slot works, showing up > as /dev/sda1. > > See: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6687 > > -- Ben In /etc/modprobe.conf, add: options scsi_mod max_scsi_luns=2 If your modprobe.conf does not have an "alias scsi_hostadapter " in it, that should fix it. If it does, you will need to rebuild your initrd using mkinitrd and reboot for this to work. -- Chris Kloiber From efthym at gmx.net Mon May 3 07:51:23 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 03:51:23 -0400 Subject: FYI: Script I wrote- Fedorasync.sh In-Reply-To: <1083562015.29548.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083562015.29548.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:26:55 +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > For those who don't know rsync or mkisofs well, but want to make daily > dvd isos of rawhide, and as a side benefit have a local yum repo, I > wrote a script for you. > > ftp://people.redhat.com/ckloiber/FedoraSync.sh > > Usage: FedoraSync.sh > Options: > -live No changes are made to the local copy without this. > -del Passes --delete to rsync, files not existing at the > source are removed in the local tree. > -paranoid 'touch' all local files, makes rsync verify them > and avoids corruption. Takes a little longer, but > I highly recommend it. > -iso After rsync is complete, create a dvd iso from the > local tree. > *Note: -iso enables -live, -del, and -paranoid > -ssh Passes -e ssh to rsync, so you can use rsync over > ssh connections. > arch is one of: i386, x86_64, or ppc (ppc untested) > Options can now be given in any order, or ommitted to use > built-in defaults. > > I recommend you start by copying your latest CD's or DVD to > /var/ftp/pub/rawhide/$ARCH, (as that is the default local directory my > script uses) then run the script to update that copy to save on > bandwidth a bit. > > Enjoy, but please use an rsync mirror near you. As configured it will > use rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core-development but we > don't want to overload that mirror. Other rsync mirrors can be found at: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html > > You may have to hunt a bit for the right path at first. When you get it > right, running it with just -del will show which old files will be > deleted, and which will be created. You should not see the arch in the > path of any output. You will see Fedora, isolinux, headers, etc at the > beginning of the test output. Running with -live (or -live -del > -paranoid) will update the local tree, but not make an iso. Using -iso > will enable -live -del and -paranoid automatically, and build an iso > suitable for booting (Yes, it works for me on both i386 and x86_64). > Speaking of x86_64 you can override the arch of the system running the > script to download and burn an x86_64 iso. You might be able to make an > iso for ppc, however I doubt it will boot unless isolinux is supported > there as well. (I have not tested ppc at all as I don't have one. If you > make it work, send patches!) > > As a side benefit to all this, the yum headers get downloaded and placed > in your anonymous ftp tree, as well as on the DVD iso. You can then use > either as a local yum repository, further saving bandwidth if you have > many machines to update. > > Have fun, I am. :) > This is great ! I'll finish my exams in 3 days (finally!!) and I would like to try an installation from scratch. Only problem is I haven't got a DVD-R ;) and burning the CDs would be the best way for me. I've looked through the docs but can't find how to split the Fedora directory on the 4 CDs. Is there a list of rpms for each CDs or a HOWTO or something? Thanx -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From fedora at warmcat.com Mon May 3 08:10:08 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 09:10:08 +0100 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 May 2004 06:55, Antti Aspinen wrote: > Hello > > I have two questions. First one is that will nVidia drivers work with > Fedora Core 2? And what about ATi drivers? I'd like to know because I > heard that normal X (Xfree86?)in Fedora is being replaced by some X.org > and I don't have any information about that all. So if some one can tell > if those drivers work (I hope for my friend that ATi will work and I > hope for my self that nVidia works too.) and explain this X.org o ATI I don't know about, it certainly supports ATI notebook video to the extent of 2D and XV (accellerated movie playback) though. o Kernel 2.6 is making a change that breaks the current nVidia binary driver. Because nVidia choose to keep their source secret, nobody can fix this except nVidia. FC2 Test 3 has this newer kernel and so the nVidia binary driver will not work with it until nVidia fix it. nVidia are apparently saying they will get around to releasing fixed drivers after FC2 actually comes out. In the meanwhile, the opensourced 'nv' drivers (the binary ones are called 'nvidia') are increasingly good, they lack 3D and Multihead support but have everything else. I am using these at the moment and I am quite happy, although I yearn for multihead back again. o Xorg is a fork from Xfree86, starting from the last old licensed version of Xfree from CVS a few weeks ago. So to start with at least, the xorg stuff IS XFree86. Because of this very few things are broken by the changeover and you can largely ignore that it is different. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAlf5kjKeDCxMJCTIRAu73AJ43IsmigbsvfFOW3EtjTk7FnxCv3QCfWm22 N9fuhejIxvBLDF5Lydl5VOk= =Qx9w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 08:21:54 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 16:21:54 +0800 Subject: FYI: Script I wrote- Fedorasync.sh In-Reply-To: References: <1083562015.29548.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083572513.1312.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 15:51, Efthym wrote: > On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:26:55 +0800, Chris Kloiber > wrote: > > > For those who don't know rsync or mkisofs well, but want to make daily > > dvd isos of rawhide, and as a side benefit have a local yum repo, I > > wrote a script for you. > > > > ftp://people.redhat.com/ckloiber/FedoraSync.sh > > > > Usage: FedoraSync.sh > > Options: > > -live No changes are made to the local copy without this. > > -del Passes --delete to rsync, files not existing at the > > source are removed in the local tree. > > -paranoid 'touch' all local files, makes rsync verify them > > and avoids corruption. Takes a little longer, but > > I highly recommend it. > > -iso After rsync is complete, create a dvd iso from the > > local tree. > > *Note: -iso enables -live, -del, and -paranoid > > -ssh Passes -e ssh to rsync, so you can use rsync over > > ssh connections. > > arch is one of: i386, x86_64, or ppc (ppc untested) > > Options can now be given in any order, or ommitted to use > > built-in defaults. > > > > I recommend you start by copying your latest CD's or DVD to > > /var/ftp/pub/rawhide/$ARCH, (as that is the default local directory my > > script uses) then run the script to update that copy to save on > > bandwidth a bit. > > > > Enjoy, but please use an rsync mirror near you. As configured it will > > use rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core-development but we > > don't want to overload that mirror. Other rsync mirrors can be found at: > > > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html > > > > You may have to hunt a bit for the right path at first. When you get it > > right, running it with just -del will show which old files will be > > deleted, and which will be created. You should not see the arch in the > > path of any output. You will see Fedora, isolinux, headers, etc at the > > beginning of the test output. Running with -live (or -live -del > > -paranoid) will update the local tree, but not make an iso. Using -iso > > will enable -live -del and -paranoid automatically, and build an iso > > suitable for booting (Yes, it works for me on both i386 and x86_64). > > Speaking of x86_64 you can override the arch of the system running the > > script to download and burn an x86_64 iso. You might be able to make an > > iso for ppc, however I doubt it will boot unless isolinux is supported > > there as well. (I have not tested ppc at all as I don't have one. If you > > make it work, send patches!) > > > > As a side benefit to all this, the yum headers get downloaded and placed > > in your anonymous ftp tree, as well as on the DVD iso. You can then use > > either as a local yum repository, further saving bandwidth if you have > > many machines to update. > > > > Have fun, I am. :) > > > > This is great ! I'll finish my exams in 3 days (finally!!) and I would > like to try an installation from scratch. Only problem is I haven't got a > DVD-R ;) and burning the CDs would be the best way for me. > I've looked through the docs but can't find how to split the Fedora > directory on the 4 CDs. Is there a list of rpms for each CDs or a HOWTO or > something? There is no physical list, but there is a script in anaconda to do that. I just have not gotten a "round tuit" yet. It is direction I'd like to go with my script. In the mean time, I see that 8x DVD+/-RW drives are on sale for $79 after rebate at stores like CompUSA and Office Depot (http://www.techbargains.com). If you are not in the USA, I hope you can find similar deals in your area. :) -- Chris Kloiber From efthym at gmx.net Mon May 3 08:24:18 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 04:24:18 -0400 Subject: FYI: Script I wrote- Fedorasync.sh In-Reply-To: <1083572513.1312.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083562015.29548.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083572513.1312.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 03 May 2004 16:21:54 +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 15:51, Efthym wrote: >> On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:26:55 +0800, Chris Kloiber >> >> wrote: >> >> > For those who don't know rsync or mkisofs well, but want to make daily >> > dvd isos of rawhide, and as a side benefit have a local yum repo, I >> > wrote a script for you. >> > >> > ftp://people.redhat.com/ckloiber/FedoraSync.sh >> > >> > Usage: FedoraSync.sh >> > Options: >> > -live No changes are made to the local copy without this. >> > -del Passes --delete to rsync, files not existing at the >> > source are removed in the local tree. >> > -paranoid 'touch' all local files, makes rsync verify them >> > and avoids corruption. Takes a little longer, but >> > I highly recommend it. >> > -iso After rsync is complete, create a dvd iso from the >> > local tree. >> > *Note: -iso enables -live, -del, and -paranoid >> > -ssh Passes -e ssh to rsync, so you can use rsync over >> > ssh connections. >> > arch is one of: i386, x86_64, or ppc (ppc untested) >> > Options can now be given in any order, or ommitted to use >> > built-in defaults. >> > >> > I recommend you start by copying your latest CD's or DVD to >> > /var/ftp/pub/rawhide/$ARCH, (as that is the default local directory my >> > script uses) then run the script to update that copy to save on >> > bandwidth a bit. >> > >> > Enjoy, but please use an rsync mirror near you. As configured it will >> > use rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core-development but we >> > don't want to overload that mirror. Other rsync mirrors can be found >> at: >> > >> > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html >> > >> > You may have to hunt a bit for the right path at first. When you get >> it >> > right, running it with just -del will show which old files will be >> > deleted, and which will be created. You should not see the arch in the >> > path of any output. You will see Fedora, isolinux, headers, etc at the >> > beginning of the test output. Running with -live (or -live -del >> > -paranoid) will update the local tree, but not make an iso. Using -iso >> > will enable -live -del and -paranoid automatically, and build an iso >> > suitable for booting (Yes, it works for me on both i386 and x86_64). >> > Speaking of x86_64 you can override the arch of the system running the >> > script to download and burn an x86_64 iso. You might be able to make >> an >> > iso for ppc, however I doubt it will boot unless isolinux is supported >> > there as well. (I have not tested ppc at all as I don't have one. If >> you >> > make it work, send patches!) >> > >> > As a side benefit to all this, the yum headers get downloaded and >> placed >> > in your anonymous ftp tree, as well as on the DVD iso. You can then >> use >> > either as a local yum repository, further saving bandwidth if you have >> > many machines to update. >> > >> > Have fun, I am. :) >> > >> >> This is great ! I'll finish my exams in 3 days (finally!!) and I would >> like to try an installation from scratch. Only problem is I haven't got >> a >> DVD-R ;) and burning the CDs would be the best way for me. >> I've looked through the docs but can't find how to split the Fedora >> directory on the 4 CDs. Is there a list of rpms for each CDs or a HOWTO >> or >> something? > > There is no physical list, but there is a script in anaconda to do that. > I just have not gotten a "round tuit" yet. It is direction I'd like to > go with my script. > > In the mean time, I see that 8x DVD+/-RW drives are on sale for $79 > after rebate at stores like CompUSA and Office Depot > (http://www.techbargains.com). If you are not in the USA, I hope you can > find similar deals in your area. :) > Thanx, but I don't think I'll be able to get one for a Thinkpad T21 :) -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From josep at imatge-sintetica.com Mon May 3 08:36:33 2004 From: josep at imatge-sintetica.com (Josep Puigdemont) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 10:36:33 +0200 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 10:10, Andy Green wrote: > o Kernel 2.6 is making a change that breaks the current nVidia binary driver. > Because nVidia choose to keep their source secret, nobody can fix this except > nVidia. FC2 Test 3 has this newer kernel and so the nVidia binary driver > will not work with it until nVidia fix it. nVidia are apparently saying they > will get around to releasing fixed drivers after FC2 actually comes out. > I don't think this is true, as I have kernel 2.6.5 here with nvidia binary drivers correctly installed and working. /Josep From M.E.Foster at ed.ac.uk Mon May 3 09:12:41 2004 From: M.E.Foster at ed.ac.uk (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 10:12:41 +0100 Subject: where is Juk? In-Reply-To: <200405030935.13912.dennis@ausil.us> References: <200405030023.24230.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> <200405030935.13912.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <200405031012.41455.M.E.Foster@ed.ac.uk> On Monday 03 May 2004 00:35, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Once upon a time Monday 03 May 2004 9:23 am, Kepa Lyman wrote: > > Juk is the quasi-itunes equiv for KDE. When I installed test2 w/ kde, > > there was no Juk included, it's not in /usr/bin, and the kde site says > > it's part of the kde multimedia base package. How do I install it? > > Did I miss something on the initial install? > > it needs taglib development packages installed when kdemultimedia is > built and it will be built as well however Fedora doesnt have taglib i > always build my own kdemultimedia packages as i turn on mp3 support. if > you get the taglib and taglib-devel packages from kde.org then you can > build kdemultimedia with juk FYI: I entered this in bugzilla last week. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122074 MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://www.iccs.informatics.ed.ac.uk/~mef/ __ So if someone says: "Let's see The Cat in the Hat"-- Just turn it down flat. I wish I'd done that. Peter Bradshaw, Guardian film review, 2 April 2004 From si at bananas.hopto.org Mon May 3 09:21:42 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 10:21:42 +0100 Subject: SATA_sil References: <20040503000502.A44CC7373E@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <010d01c430f0$0bf1d960$f901a8c0@bananas.hopto.org> for those of you following this the bug is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122215 looks like support will be in the next one!!!! From chris at menzel.com Mon May 3 09:49:19 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 11:49:19 +0200 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> Message-ID: <1083577759.25115.4.camel@stage.menzel.com> On Mo, 2004-05-03 at 10:36, Josep Puigdemont wrote: > I don't think this is true, as I have kernel 2.6.5 here with nvidia > binary drivers correctly installed and working. but not the Fedora stock kernel, I assume? > > /Josep -- Christian Menzel From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Mon May 3 09:59:43 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 10:59:43 +0100 Subject: cdwriter Message-ID: <200405031059.43988.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> I have both Fedora and Debian on my drive...Debian will burn cd's ok and cdrecord -scanbus tells me the burner is 0,0,0 whereas Fedora tells me 1,0,0 and in Fedora I get an error message... scsidev: 'ATA' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 I notice I do not call for ide=scsi in the grub boot in fedora yet I do in the working Debian on the older kernel.... I have checked in /dev and the link is ok to hcd so anyone tell me where I am going wrong ?? -- Regards Ted Wager Using Fedora Linux From tim+redhat.com at coote.org Mon May 3 10:00:11 2004 From: tim+redhat.com at coote.org (tim+redhat.com at coote.org) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 11:00:11 +0100 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> Message-ID: <20040503100011.GA23396@fw.coote.org> You are correct. The 2.6.5 in fc2t3 has additional patches that break the nvidia driver. I have the same issue with ndiswrapper & nvidia driver. nv is fine, when you can get it working but I'm stuffed as far as wifi enabling my centrino is concerned :-(( tc On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:36:33AM +0200, Josep Puigdemont wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 10:10, Andy Green wrote: > > > o Kernel 2.6 is making a change that breaks the current nVidia binary driver. > > Because nVidia choose to keep their source secret, nobody can fix this except > > nVidia. FC2 Test 3 has this newer kernel and so the nVidia binary driver > > will not work with it until nVidia fix it. nVidia are apparently saying they > > will get around to releasing fixed drivers after FC2 actually comes out. > > > > I don't think this is true, as I have kernel 2.6.5 here with nvidia > binary drivers correctly installed and working. > > /Josep > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From david at bus.ucf.edu Mon May 3 10:47:13 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 06:47:13 -0400 Subject: DVD, XP and a 2 GB limit In-Reply-To: <40959AE3.3000203@comcast.net> References: <40959AE3.3000203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1083581454.4622.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/2/2004 9:05 PM, Kenny Speer wrote: > Why in the world would you force yourself to use XP? And, XP will not > display a file larger than 2GB in Explorer. It's a known issue > therefore FTP fails. Try using CIFS/SMB if you absolutely must use that > inferior OS. XP has no problem displaying 4,292,982 KB on my Windows machine. I believe, on this, IE is the culprit not the OS (which is not really that inferior, but that's topic for a different thread). Cheers, -- David From fedora at warmcat.com Mon May 3 10:47:58 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 11:47:58 +0100 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <20040503100011.GA23396@fw.coote.org> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> <20040503100011.GA23396@fw.coote.org> Message-ID: <200405031147.58611.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 May 2004 11:00, tim+redhat.com at coote.org wrote: > > > o Kernel 2.6 is making a change that breaks the current nVidia binary > You are correct. The 2.6.5 in fc2t3 has additional patches that break the Yes, I wasn't clear enough. 2.6.6 mainline kernel is apparently moving to 4K stacks for good. Fedora is just a little ahead of the curve, soon everyone using up to date 2.6 will be in the same boat. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAliNejKeDCxMJCTIRAh7GAKCFKyReaKNUCZp1PokGnxiBnt0XEACgkdJJ Bjq0AucGMiRUx01Tc3U61tg= =CYrU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From josep at imatge-sintetica.com Mon May 3 10:48:17 2004 From: josep at imatge-sintetica.com (Josep Puigdemont) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:48:17 +0200 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1083577759.25115.4.camel@stage.menzel.com> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> <1083577759.25115.4.camel@stage.menzel.com> Message-ID: <1083581297.21892.5.camel@deimos> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 11:49, Christian Menzel wrote: > On Mo, 2004-05-03 at 10:36, Josep Puigdemont wrote: > > > I don't think this is true, as I have kernel 2.6.5 here with nvidia > > binary drivers correctly installed and working. > > but not the Fedora stock kernel, I assume? No, you're right, it's a custom kernel. Which are the patches that break the nvidia drivers? Thanks. /Josep From baron at psych.upenn.edu Mon May 3 10:54:22 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 06:54:22 -0400 Subject: ATI drivers (was Re: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2) In-Reply-To: <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> On 05/03/04 09:10, Andy Green wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >o ATI I don't know about, it certainly supports ATI notebook video to the >extent of 2D and XV (accellerated movie playback) though. >- -- Not quite. The new Dell Inspiron 9100 has a "WSXGA+" ATI video card, which is designed to work with the 1680x1050 display. (I guess the "W" is for "wide." It is very wide.) The current driver that comes with Fedora Core 2 test 3 will do only 1400x1050. The result is that everything is s t r e t c h e d out. (I admit that I didn't notice it right away. I though I was just having trouble finding nice fonts.) This is also true with the latest available ATI driver from http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/linuxhowto-ati.html although I must also say that, after going through their recommended configuration procedure and moving XFree86-4 to xorg.conf, nothing is any worse (and perhaps better, since I've been unable to configure the dual monitor part so far, and this claims to do that, although I haven't tried it). I'm going to try to contact ATI directly about this. -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From jonas2 at optimum2.mii.lt Mon May 3 10:59:34 2004 From: jonas2 at optimum2.mii.lt (jonas2 at optimum2.mii.lt) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:59:34 +0200 (EET) Subject: linux-unbootable-cdrom Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, I am responding to: "Fedora Core 2 test3 Available! Notable changes in this release include: - The 'CD1 won't boot' issue appears to be resolved. Any reports of continued failure are certainly appreciated." This is very good news for those using linux-bootable CDROM. Attached tables show that most of Intel main boards are not linux compatible and many Intel BIOS drivers consider the linux boot CDROM just as a CDROM. My Intel Desktop Board D845BG featuring Intel Express Installer belongs to this category and so many of my students PC. Before kernel 2.6 that was no problem because boot-floppies were doing the job. A solution now seems to develop a sort of two-floppy boot system. That will help people without linux-bootable CDROM's or similar devices. It would be usefull for others, too, because floppy-boot is very simple and convenient. Best regards Jonas Mockus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sometimes the CDROM needs this added to the grub.conf file. > I have checked in /dev and the link is ok to hcd so anyone tell me > where I am going wrong ?? /dev/cdrom or /dev/cdwriter? (pointing to /dev/hdc) I'm on an FC1 nstallation right now. ls -la /dev/cd* gives me the below output. FC2 of course should be different. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 2 17:07 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 ..... lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 3 06:52 /dev/cdwriter -> /dev/sg0 Have you tried to burn using the nautilus CD burner feature? (right click on ISO file. Choose write to CD.) Jim From fedora at andrewfarris.com Mon May 3 11:20:40 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 04:20:40 -0700 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1083581297.21892.5.camel@deimos> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> <1083577759.25115.4.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083581297.21892.5.camel@deimos> Message-ID: <1083583240.2383.5.camel@CirithUngol> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:48 +0200, Josep Puigdemont wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 11:49, Christian Menzel wrote: > > On Mo, 2004-05-03 at 10:36, Josep Puigdemont wrote: > > > > > I don't think this is true, as I have kernel 2.6.5 here with nvidia > > > binary drivers correctly installed and working. > > > > but not the Fedora stock kernel, I assume? > > No, you're right, it's a custom kernel. > > Which are the patches that break the nvidia drivers? > Thanks. > > /Josep linux-2.6.5-nostack.patch <- makes 4KSTACKS always on (no config option) The config itself has CONFIG_4KSTACKS=y and CONFIG_REGPARM=y, both of which break the nVIDIA driver version 5336. It has been discussed at length here and on the nVIDIA linux forum (nvnews.net). The new driver expected out 'soon' should fix both... we play a waiting game. (building custom kernels takes care of the issue for now) -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From dave at webaugur.com Mon May 3 11:28:48 2004 From: dave at webaugur.com (David L Norris) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 06:28:48 -0500 Subject: yum returns 404 In-Reply-To: <40959172.8010706@comcast.net> References: <40959172.8010706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1083583728.30583.9.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 19:25, Kenny Speer wrote: > Is anyone having issues with yum? The default page is: > > baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/$basearch/os/ I don't see a 404: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/x86_64/os/ Were you trying to visit the URL in a browser without filling in the basearch variable? The site seems really slow. Maybe that's the issue? Use a mirror? I dunno. -- David Norris http://www.webaugur.com/dave/ ICQ - 412039 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Icons should change. Jim From alan at redhat.com Mon May 3 11:47:55 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 07:47:55 -0400 Subject: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll In-Reply-To: <4095C7AC.9020409@comcast.net> References: <4095BA31.2050509@comcast.net> <00b901c430c2$fb8b8530$b28ccb89@zeppo> <4095C7AC.9020409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040503114755.GA18250@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 09:16:44PM -0700, Kenny Speer wrote: > with -x and guess what? You have the full source, complete and ready to > be hacked which I have done in order to get APM working when they You have source to a small bit of it. > You could find many many ways to bash vendors, I personally would rather > like to see more act like NVidia. Where are my Broadcom drivers for > 54G? Or the ATI drivers? Or my ACPI support from my laptop vendor? > NVidia is farther along than any other vendor I know of in supporting Linux. ATI provided a ton of help to get radeon drivers including the 3D. Several laptop vendors now test Linux ACPI compliance routinely. Nvidia choose not to provide their 3D stuff. They have good business reasons for this so I don't expect it to change. They do also however to their credit provide most of the open source "nv" driver too From alan at redhat.com Mon May 3 11:50:49 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 07:50:49 -0400 Subject: nVidia RIVA TNT - any success story?ll In-Reply-To: <00d401c430c8$a981e030$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <4095C7AC.9020409@comcast.net> <00d401c430c8$a981e030$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <20040503115049.GB18250@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 12:39:46AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > Not compared to Siig and 3Ware: both are fabulous about Linux support > (although they make IDE/SCSI/RAID cards, not video). For video, the > selection is tougher, I admit. However, Virge actually used to be pretty > good abou Linux. VIA wrote the 2D/3D code for the EPIA and provided it. Intel fund and help with their 2D and 3D video extensively in open source. S3 have provided 3D drivers for some of the savage stuff (still being integrated). Trident provided docs (but nobody has ever written a driver for trident 3D). Alan From alan at redhat.com Mon May 3 11:55:42 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 07:55:42 -0400 Subject: bug in FC2 test3 libmng package when compiling xine? In-Reply-To: <20040503064652.77888.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040503064652.77888.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040503115542.GC18250@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 11:46:51PM -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > checking for mng_initialize in -lmng... yes > checking libmng.h usability... no > checking libmng.h presence... no > checking for libmng.h... no > *** All libmng dependent parts will be disabled *** rpm -ql libmng-devel /usr/include/libmng.h /usr/include/libmng_conf.h /usr/include/libmng_types.h /usr/lib/libmng.la /usr/lib/libmng.so so it appears to be present. You might want to check where the app is searching for it From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Mon May 3 12:05:01 2004 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:05:01 +0200 Subject: FYI: Script I wrote- Fedorasync.sh In-Reply-To: <1083562015.29548.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083562015.29548.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083585900.12046.40.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 07:26, Chris Kloiber wrote: > For those who don't know rsync or mkisofs well, but want to make daily > dvd isos of rawhide, and as a side benefit have a local yum repo, I > wrote a script for you. > > ftp://people.redhat.com/ckloiber/FedoraSync.sh > > Usage: FedoraSync.sh > > Options: > > -live No changes are made to the local copy without this. > -del Passes --delete to rsync, files not existing at the > source are removed in the local tree. > -paranoid 'touch' all local files, makes rsync verify them > and avoids corruption. Takes a little longer, but > I highly recommend it. > > -iso After rsync is complete, create a dvd iso from the > local tree. > *Note: -iso enables -live, -del, and -paranoid > > -ssh Passes -e ssh to rsync, so you can use rsync over > ssh connections. > > arch is one of: i386, x86_64, or ppc (ppc untested) > > Options can now be given in any order, or ommitted to use > built-in defaults. > > I recommend you start by copying your latest CD's or DVD to > /var/ftp/pub/rawhide/$ARCH, (as that is the default local directory my > script uses) then run the script to update that copy to save on > bandwidth a bit. > > Enjoy, but please use an rsync mirror near you. As configured it will > use rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core-development but we > don't want to overload that mirror. Other rsync mirrors can be found at: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html > > You may have to hunt a bit for the right path at first. When you get it > right, running it with just -del will show which old files will be > deleted, and which will be created. You should not see the arch in the > path of any output. You will see Fedora, isolinux, headers, etc at the > beginning of the test output. Running with -live (or -live -del > -paranoid) will update the local tree, but not make an iso. Using -iso > will enable -live -del and -paranoid automatically, and build an iso > suitable for booting (Yes, it works for me on both i386 and x86_64). > Speaking of x86_64 you can override the arch of the system running the > script to download and burn an x86_64 iso. You might be able to make an > iso for ppc, however I doubt it will boot unless isolinux is supported > there as well. (I have not tested ppc at all as I don't have one. If you > make it work, send patches!) > > As a side benefit to all this, the yum headers get downloaded and placed > in your anonymous ftp tree, as well as on the DVD iso. You can then use > either as a local yum repository, further saving bandwidth if you have > many machines to update. > > Have fun, I am. :) > > -- > Chris Kloiber > > Hi Chris, Your script works like a charm. Thanks! There is one thing though... If I run the script as a plain user with the repository in /home/patrick/rawhide, it always fails at the mkisofs stage. If I run it as root it works as advertised. The command I use is: cd /home/patrick/ ./FedoraSync.sh -live -del -paranoid -iso i386 The error message I get as a plain user is: Size of boot image is 4 sectors -> No emulation mkisofs: Permission denied. Error opening boot image file './isolinux/isolinux.bin' for update. In the current rawhide tree isolinux.bin is 444 and mkisofs needs 644 to do it's thing successfully. Is changing isolinux.bin from 444 to 644 something that needs to be done in the rawhide tree or do I just work around this "feature" by changing isolinux.bin from 444 to 644 in the script just before the mkisofs command is issued and afterwards change it back? Thanks, Patrick From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 3 12:09:17 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 13:09:17 +0100 Subject: Installing additional packages using apt-get Message-ID: <1083586156.24252.2.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I'm trying to install Audacity using apt-get under FC2T3 and I am getting the following errors apt-get install audacity E: Umet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution) Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... audacity is already the newest version. You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgnomeprint#1.116.0-9: PreDepends: XFree86 but it is not going to be installed libquicktime: Depends: libdv.so.2 mjpegtools: Depends: libdv.so.2 subtitleripper: Depends: libpbm.so.9 Depends: libppm.so.9 tetex-texmf-doc: Depends: tetex-texmf but it is not installable transcode: Depends: libMagick-5.5.6-Q16.so.0 Depends: libdv.so.2 xine-mozilla-plugin: Depends: libxine1 (>= 1) but it is not installable Is it safe for me to run apt-get -f install without screwing things up on my machine? I run yum update roughly every day and don't want to break anything. TTFN Paul -- "There are four stages to any war First they ignore you, then they laugh at you Then they fight you, then YOU win." Ghandi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Wouldn't they? >> The fact that three different apps are reporting three >> different 'apparent' states of my system is disconcerting. >> Thats why I don't know who to believe. >> And yes, I know that rpm -q tells what I've got But this >> discussion thread revolves around: >> 'which of these packages _really_ need updating'? >> (Not a yum/up2date/apt-get/etc flame war.) > >This really looks to me like yum is looking at more repositories than >up2date is. Unfortunately, they are both configured the same way... and that is as delivered on the CD and updates. >I don't really understand why you have rhn listed as a client >here, as that is what up2date is. I use 'rhn' to refer to the 'rhn-applet' on the task bars. Because it is a different application than 'up2date'. From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 3 12:27:30 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:27:30 +0200 Subject: First look at FC2T2 Message-ID: <1083587243.1018.115.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sorry for my poor English. My hardware : $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333] 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] 00:05.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366/368/370/370A/372 (rev 03) 00:06.0 Multimedia controller: Sigma Designs, Inc. REALmagic Hollywood Plus DVD Decoder (rev 02) 00:07.0 ATM network controller: STMicroelectronics ST70137 [Unicorn] ADSL DMT Transceiver (rev 10) 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) 00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt848 Video Capture (rev 12) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 10) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC AGP (rev 7a) My mouse is a "Generic - 3 Button Mouse (PS/2)" . I do a fresh install of FC2T3. I have copied initrd.img and vmlinuz in my hard drive and add : title Fedora Core (install) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img ramdisk_size=8192 askmethod initrd /initrd.img in grub.conf I use hard drive method to install FC2T3. The installation is done in French. Profile workstation. When anaconda start X11, if I move my mouse at the same time, X11 failed with : XIO : fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":1.0" after 0 requests (0 know processed) with 0 events remaining. Install exited abnormally. Bug already filed : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107231 In firstboot, the keyboard is qwerty. Known bug (reopen): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100686 NB : Component=rhgb Is this correct ? Firstboot doesn't configure the display. Known bug : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121729 xorg-x11-truetype-fonts is not installed by default. Normal ? Mouse not configured for gpm. Known issue : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=114591 Product: RHEL btw, why do we need /etc/sysconfig/gpm if gpm seams to not use it. The sound is muted. Known bug : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119866 mdmpd failed to startup. Known issue : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117498 rhnsd is start by default. Is this useful for Fedora ? $ chkconfig --list rhnsd rhnsd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off In /etc/X11/xorg.conf, i have : Section "InputDevice" [...] Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection Why ? I have a "real" 3 buttons mouse. Questions : Where is ~/.xsession-errors ? RFE : Can Fedora load pcspkr module by default ? I do this with /etc/rc.d/rc.local . Please, add : alias mv="mv -i" alias cp="cp -i" alias rm="rm -i" in /etc/skel/.bashrc Conclusion : Good job ! FC2T3 is far better than T2. From mr700 at globalnet.bg Mon May 3 12:36:23 2004 From: mr700 at globalnet.bg (Doncho N. Gunchev) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:36:23 +0300 Subject: linux-unbootable-cdrom In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405031536.23225@-mr700> On Monday 03 May 2004 13:59, jonas2 at optimum2.mii.lt wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I am responding to: > "Fedora Core 2 test3 Available! > Notable changes in this release include: > - The 'CD1 won't boot' issue appears to be resolved. Any reports of > continued failure are certainly appreciated." > > This is very good news for those using linux-bootable CDROM. > Attached tables show that most of Intel main boards are not > linux compatible and many Intel BIOS drivers consider the linux boot > CDROM > just as > a CDROM. > My Intel Desktop Board D845BG featuring Intel Express Installer > belongs to > this category > and so many of my students PC. > > Before kernel 2.6 that was no problem because > boot-floppies were doing the job. > > A solution now seems to develop a sort of two-floppy > boot system. > That will help people without linux-bootable CDROM's > or similar devices. > It would be usefull for others, too, > because floppy-boot is very simple and > convenient. > > Best regards > Jonas Mockus There is sbm - smart boot manager (I think debian ships with it) which is able to boot from CD. For me it always worked, but I have not tryed it with FC2t3. Check http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/, it uses about 30Kbytes from the floppy. If this works, I see no need to have boot floppy with anything else on it. -- Regards, Doncho N. Gunchev Registered Linux User #291323 at counter.li.org GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/DA454F79 Key fingerprint = 684F 688B C508 C609 0371 5E0F A089 CB15 DA45 4F79 From chrisw01 at privatei.com Mon May 3 12:49:11 2004 From: chrisw01 at privatei.com (Christopher A. Williams) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 06:49:11 -0600 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> Message-ID: <1083588551.9129.1.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 02:36, Josep Puigdemont wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 10:10, Andy Green wrote: > > > o Kernel 2.6 is making a change that breaks the current nVidia binary driver. > > Because nVidia choose to keep their source secret, nobody can fix this except > > nVidia. FC2 Test 3 has this newer kernel and so the nVidia binary driver > > will not work with it until nVidia fix it. nVidia are apparently saying they > > will get around to releasing fixed drivers after FC2 actually comes out. > > > > I don't think this is true, as I have kernel 2.6.5 here with nvidia > binary drivers correctly installed and working. > > /Josep How did you do it? I'm sure lots of us here, myself included, would be interested in knowing. Did you re-compile the kernel? A step-by-step list would be great. My GeForce 5600 and I would both thank you. Cheers, Chris -- =============================== "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. From darren at dzr-web.com Mon May 3 13:07:26 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:07:26 +0100 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? Message-ID: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> I've been searching the archive for this list and bugzilla, and also been searching the web for information on the status of FireWire in FC2. I've actually found quite a lot, but I'm still a little unsure and and was hoping someone could clarify this for me. If memory serves me correctly FC1 shipped with kernel 2.4.22 and had FireWire disabled by default due to some last minute problems. That was my main reason for not upgrading to FC1 at the time. I'm still running RHL9 here, but since it EOLed on Friday I need to consider what to move to. Judging from bugzilla and this list archive, FireWire is re-enabled in FC2 with kernel 2.6.x, and despite some problems some people are having on the whole it seems to be working for most. But then I read this: Fedora News Updates #10 http://www.fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/issue10.shtml (under "Fedora Core 2 test2 notes") "ieee1394 (Firewire) is not available in current kernels, and till its re-enabled, making the modules by yourself might be required (reference: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg02482.html). If it's causing you grief, remove its reference in /etc/modprobe.conf and rebuild your image (reference: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg00111.html)." Is this still the case in FC2t3? Is it likely to also be the case for the final release of FC3? I really need FireWire working here, and having to roll my own modules every time an errata kernel is released sounds like a PITA. Naturally, this may well be a non-Fedora-specific issue, and so I may have this problem with whatever 2.6 based distro I choose to upgrade to, but I would like to know whether FireWire is going to be supported in FC2 or not. TIA, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From masterra at m-ra.net Mon May 3 13:14:05 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 08:14:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: main menu icon In-Reply-To: <40962F86.1090604@insight.rr.com> References: <40962F86.1090604@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: Thanks. It did turn out to be something like this. Oddly changing the icon in /usr/shared/pixmaps didn't work, turned out it was one of the icons in the Bluecurve theme.. i just hadn't changed the correct size one :) Thanks -Quasar On Mon, 3 May 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > This is another not-really-testing question, but how do you change the > > icon for the gnome main menu in FC2? i've tried the gconf instructions for > > fc1, as well as simply moving the icon.. neither works. Is the Ugly Red > > Hat now built right into gnome? :) > > > > > > If you change the theme selection, all your ICONs shoud be GNOME > defaults. (Foot for menu, red dino for mozilla, other app launchers > correct icons) > > I've tried it on both FC2 and FC1. It worked for both installations. It > beats the plainer icons. > > I don't know how to undo this, use at your own risk. > > Preferences -->> theme. Then select a theme. Icons should change. > > > Jim > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From darren at dzr-web.com Mon May 3 13:19:34 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:19:34 +0100 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <1083590374.4841.46.camel@excession.dzr> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 14:07, D. D. Brierton wrote: > Is this still the case in FC2t3? Is it likely to also be the case for > the final release of FC3? *sigh* I meant "final release of FC2". -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From rpjday at mindspring.com Mon May 3 13:22:41 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 09:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: what's the status of encrypted filesystems? Message-ID: will encrypted filesystems be ready to go out of the box with FC2? rday From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 3 13:38:31 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 15:38:31 +0200 Subject: what's the status of encrypted filesystems? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083591510.1018.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 03/05/2004 ? 15:22, Robert P. J. Day a ?crit : > will encrypted filesystems be ready to go out of the box with FC2? > Yes. $ rpm -q -i cryptsetup Name : cryptsetup Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 0.1 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 1 Build Date: ven 16 avr 2004 09:27:28 CEST Install Date: lun 26 avr 2004 00:38:16 CEST Build Host: bugs.devel.redhat.com Group : Applications/System Source RPM: cryptsetup-0.1-1.src.rpm Size : 50271 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, mar 20 avr 2004 15:19:04 CEST, Key ID da84cbd430c9ecf8 Packager : Red Hat, Inc. URL : http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/ Summary : A utility for setting up encrypted filesystems Description : This package contains cryptsetup, a utility for setting up encrypted filesystems using Device Mapper and the dm-crypt target. more info : http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/ > rday > From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 3 13:43:24 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 15:43:24 +0200 Subject: First look at FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <1083587243.1018.115.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083587243.1018.115.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083591804.1018.128.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 03/05/2004 ? 14:27, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > Sorry for my poor English. > > My hardware : > $ lspci > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333] > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] > 00:05.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366/368/370/370A/372 (rev 03) > 00:06.0 Multimedia controller: Sigma Designs, Inc. REALmagic Hollywood Plus DVD Decoder (rev 02) > 00:07.0 ATM network controller: STMicroelectronics ST70137 [Unicorn] ADSL DMT Transceiver (rev 10) > 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) > 00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt848 Video Capture (rev 12) > 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge > 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) > 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 10) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC AGP (rev 7a) > > My mouse is a "Generic - 3 Button Mouse (PS/2)" . > > I do a fresh install of FC2T3. I have copied initrd.img and vmlinuz in > my hard drive and add : > title Fedora Core (install) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img ramdisk_size=8192 askmethod > initrd /initrd.img > > in grub.conf > [snip] Another bug here : http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119982 Perhaps the more annoying in FC2 for me. It's take some times to find a workaround. From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Mon May 3 13:47:30 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 09:47:30 -0400 Subject: ESD and ALSA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083592050.19984.0.camel@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Just wondering, is ESD only working with alsa now or is there an option to force OSS? Brian From mike at flyn.org Mon May 3 15:21:48 2004 From: mike at flyn.org (mike at flyn.org) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 10:21:48 -0500 Subject: libusb and scanners - scanner module removed in 2.6 kernel Message-ID: <20040503142148.BEC00312D0@neuromancer.voxel.net> --- Jim Cornette wrote: > I was trying to use bugzilla and it did not work correctly. Anyway, the > version of SANE-Backends is 1.0.13 and there was a lead that a hotplug > wrapper might be needed to fix the scanner problem using the 2.6 kernel > and scanners. > By checking out the SANE webpage, I found the below information. This is > a recent change. Is this USB hotplugging fix what is needed? > Currently, I run a chown user /proc/bus/usb/001/004 in my /etc/rc.local > file to get my scanner working on boot. I leave it plugged into the same > usb port. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121893. -- Mike From gstool at earthlink.net Mon May 3 14:25:18 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 09:25:18 -0500 Subject: Scanner Frustration Message-ID: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> I have been trying to get my Epson 1240U scanner (which works in everything prior to FC2Tx) to work, following bugzilla report 121511. It is not clear exactly what needs to be done that seems to work for some others. Could someone post a complete step-by-step process to this list that details how to get usb scanners to work in FC2T3? Having a working scanner is a requirement for me to use FC2 when it is released. Thanks. Gerry Tool From ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org Mon May 3 14:51:07 2004 From: ulrick2 at faith4miracle.org (Steven P. Ulrick) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 09:51:07 -0500 Subject: Adding fc2trc to Grub menu In-Reply-To: <409596B3.3000205@earthlink.net> References: <20040502130723.42e2e178.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> <1083524511.5228.21.camel@littlePiet> <20040502155811.24f958d6.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> <409596B3.3000205@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040503095107.03532219.ulrick2@faith4miracle.org> On Sun, 02 May 2004 19:47:47 -0500 Gerry Tool wrote: > Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > > Hello, Peter :) > > I added the entry you said I should try to grub.conf, and it works > > like a charm :) But now I understand why some people are talking on > > the kde-devel list about KDE not working on Fedora Core. KDE won't > > even start :( > > What are you talking about? It works fine for me. I use both KDE and > > Gnome. Switchdesk (version 4.0.3.1) is even fixed to the point where > one can easily switch back and forth (bugzilla #121840.) > > Gerry Tool Hello, Gerry :) Unfortunately, I had only tried to log into KDE once since I had installed Fedora Core 2, Test Release 3. When I logged back in later that night to begin installing KDE from CVS HEAD, it did log in :) So I do apologize for any confusion that I've created. Off topic a little bit, but KDE from CVS HEAD is compiling and installing wonderfully. It will be interesting to find out why an unusual amount of people are having Fedora Core/KDE related issues. If anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about, check out the "DANGER Fedora" (The capitals in "Danger" are not mine. :)) thread on the Kde-Devel mailing list. Anyway, have a Great Day :) Steven P. Ulrick From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Mon May 3 14:52:57 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 09:52:57 -0500 Subject: FC2 Test 3 doesn't start PCMCIA NIC In-Reply-To: <200405020121.13978.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <200405020121.13978.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1083595977.14134.1.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> I have the same problem. yenta_socket doesn't get started. Cardmgr gives me the no socket message. I can modprobe yenta_socket and start pcmcia manually and everything is OK. Timothy On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 01:21, ByteEnable wrote: > I have an older PIII Dell Latitude that works fine with FC1. With FC2 Test 3, > it will not start the PCMCIA NIC (PCNET_CS). If I remember correctly, it > needs to start yenta, and its not. > > Byte > From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon May 3 15:05:36 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 17:05:36 +0200 Subject: Driver disk Message-ID: <1083596735.4750.22.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi, FC2t3 fails to configure my ne2k-pci nic (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120289). The installer then gives me the option to use a driver disk, but I can't find a driver disk anywhere. Is the option to use a driver disk only available for people to use their home grown driver disks, or is the absence of a driver disk a mistake? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From kenny.speer at comcast.net Mon May 3 15:09:34 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 08:09:34 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on emachines 6805 laptop In-Reply-To: <1083564189.29548.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040503013453.AE5CF73ADA@hormel.redhat.com> <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> <1083564189.29548.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <409660AE.1090505@comcast.net> That's great but your kernel includes an awful lot of useless kruft. I suggest you take my .config and rebuild the rpm and then repost specifically for the m680x. You may want to make changes as I haven't gotten everything to work yet but I've gotten rid of most of the irrelevant modules. Thanks. Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 10:20, Kedar Patankar wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>Just downloaded and installed FC2T3 x86_64 on my emachines 6805 laptop. >>The install went through almost w/o a hitch. After the reboot, it tried >>to start up the PCMCIA services and locked up. I then went into single >>user mode and killed the S24pcmcia. Haven't had any time to figure out >>why the PCMCIA locked up the machine. >> >>Another problem is that it doesn't recognize the ATI mobility radeon >>9600. X runs in VESA mode and can only do 1024x768. I haven't tried out >>anything else yet. Any clues about how to make the X recognize radeon >>9600 and atleast do 2D and 1280x800?? >> >>Regards/Kedar. > > > See my homepage: http://www.ckloiber.com > > Basically disable PCMCIA and Kudzu services, and add boot options > pci=noacpi,usepirqmask then on a wired network download my custom kernel > and install it. Then re-enable PCMCIA (leave kudzu off, it explodes > violently) and reboot. Keep the new kernel boot options. > PCMCIA will work, even with a PCMCIA wireless card in it. The Broadcom > 54G card is useless. > > As for the video, run system-config-display and choose the Radeon 9600 > from the list of cards. Select the Generic LCD at 1024x768. Then hand > edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and remove any XF86Config you may find) > Comment out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines (if they aren't already) > xorg will then just do the right thing. > From andy at plausible.org Mon May 3 15:09:45 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andrew Ross) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 08:09:45 -0700 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1083588551.9129.1.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <1083573393.15859.18.camel@deimos> <1083588551.9129.1.camel@spike-home.comcast.net> Message-ID: <409660B9.5020604@plausible.org> Christopher A. Williams wrote: > Josep Puigdemont wrote: > > I don't think this is true, as I have kernel 2.6.5 here with nvidia > > binary drivers correctly installed and working. > > How did you do it? I'm sure lots of us here, myself included, would be > interested in knowing. Did you re-compile the kernel? A step-by-step > list would be great. My GeForce 5600 and I would both thank you. The 2.6.5 kernel works fine with the NVidia drivers. The FC2 kernel enables a more recent "4k stacks" patch (present but optional in the 2.6.6 current release candidate) with which they do not work. This procedure works for me: + Grab and unpack a 2.6.5 kernel into /usr/src + Copy the kernel config file (you can get it in either the kernel-source package or the kernel SRPM) that corresponds to your cpu/smp configuration to /usr/src/.config + "make oldconfig", answer one or two questions regarding drivers not present in the FC2 kernels. + "make && make install && make modules_install" + Reboot. + Run the NVidia installer. Andy From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Mon May 3 15:23:05 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 10:23:05 -0500 Subject: ATI drivers (was Re: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2) In-Reply-To: <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> Message-ID: <200405031023.05780.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Monday 03 May 2004 05:54, Jonathan Baron wrote: > On 05/03/04 09:10, Andy Green wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >o ATI I don't know about, it certainly supports ATI notebook video to the > >extent of 2D and XV (accellerated movie playback) though. > >- -- > > Not quite. The new Dell Inspiron 9100 has a "WSXGA+" ATI video > card, which is designed to work with the 1680x1050 display. (I > guess the "W" is for "wide." It is very wide.) The current > driver that comes with Fedora Core 2 test 3 will do only > 1400x1050. The result is that everything is s t r e t c h e d > out. (I admit that I didn't notice it right away. I though I > was just having trouble finding nice fonts.) > > This is also true with the latest available ATI driver from > http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/linuxhowto-ati.html > although I must also say that, after going through their > recommended configuration procedure and moving XFree86-4 to > xorg.conf, nothing is any worse (and perhaps better, since I've > been unable to configure the dual monitor part so far, and this > claims to do that, although I haven't tried it). > > I'm going to try to contact ATI directly about this. > -- > Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania > Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron Just on side note. Its great to see cross disciplinary techies using Linux. Maybe you can use some Mind Control techniques on ATI to release better drivers? Byte From bcohen1 at binghamton.edu Mon May 3 16:01:30 2004 From: bcohen1 at binghamton.edu (bcohen1 at binghamton.edu) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: dmesg error Message-ID: <32926.128.226.225.148.1083600090.squirrel@smail.binghamton.edu> Hey, I've been having problems with core 2 once I yum updated to the newest version. I had the "selinux problem" that someone posted and I fixed it by setting my selinux config file to "disabled". By the way, what is selinux? 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security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:xserver_exec_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:xdm_xserver_tmp_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:xdm_xserver_tmp_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:xserver_misc_device_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:ypbind_exec_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:ypserv_exec_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:ypserv_conf_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:zebra_exec_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:zebra_exec_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:zebra_log_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:zebra_conf_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_home_dir_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_home_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:httpd_staff_content_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_gpg_secret_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_home_irc_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_mozilla_rw_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_mozilla_rw_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_mozilla_rw_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_home_screen_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_screensaver_rw_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_home_ssh_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context root:object_r:staff_home_xauth_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:default_context_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:amanda_recover_dir_t security_context_to_sid: called before initial load_policy on unknown context system_u:object_r:staff_home_spamassassin_t Any suggestions? Other little things are going wrong also (like my system clock won't change when I change the time) Thanks, Linux newb From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon May 3 16:02:33 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 18:02:33 +0200 Subject: Installer shell prompt too late Message-ID: <1083600152.4750.26.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi, I am having some issues with doing an NFS install of FC2t3. My RTL-8029 isn't brought up by the installer, and also manually inserting an ISA 3Com Etherlink III fails. Both get detected, but not brought up. Problem is there is no shell prompt in tty2 yet, so I can't bring up the devices by hand. Maybe it is a good idea to make a shell prompt available earlier in the installation? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From bfrantzdale at hmc.edu Mon May 3 16:03:58 2004 From: bfrantzdale at hmc.edu (Benjamin FrantzDale) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 09:03:58 -0700 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <1083570294.29548.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083570294.29548.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> Thanks, I'll give that a try. I was asking because it seems like USB CF readers are the sort of thing that should Just Work (or at least should just require adding a line to /etc/fstab). So is there any reason this number isn't set higher by default? --Ben On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 15:44 +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 15:25, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > > I just got Test 3 Installed. Great work! > > > > > > Is there any reason CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN isn't enabled in the kernel? > > > > I ask because I tried to get my SanDistk ImageMate (CF/SD USB card > > reader) working. It is supposed to show up as two SCSI devices, sda1 and > > sdb1, but apparently that only happens if CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is > > enabled in the kernel; without it, only the CF slot works, showing up > > as /dev/sda1. > > > > See: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6687 > > > > -- Ben > > In /etc/modprobe.conf, add: > > options scsi_mod max_scsi_luns=2 > > If your modprobe.conf does not have an "alias scsi_hostadapter " > in it, that should fix it. If it does, you will need to rebuild your > initrd using mkinitrd and reboot for this to work. > > -- > Chris Kloiber > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From philip at balister.org Mon May 3 16:08:57 2004 From: philip at balister.org (Philip Balister) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:08:57 -0400 Subject: [fedora-test] Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040503160857.GF11433@nemesis.maddog.net> I had a similar problem. It appears FC1 used the scanner driver and FC2 uses libusb. I managed to make it work on an interim basis by dorking with some stuff. I'll try and be more helpful when I get the machine back from Dell. I gather I need to mess around with hotplug to adjust device perms when it is plugged in. I'm also thinking the device file changes depending on where is gets plugged in and that also needs dealing with. Philip On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:25:18AM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been trying to get my Epson 1240U scanner (which works in > everything prior to FC2Tx) to work, following bugzilla report 121511. > It is not clear exactly what needs to be done that seems to work for > some others. Could someone post a complete step-by-step process to this > list that details how to get usb scanners to work in FC2T3? > > Having a working scanner is a requirement for me to use FC2 when it is > released. > > Thanks. > > Gerry Tool > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Mon May 3 16:21:38 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 17:21:38 +0100 Subject: cdwriter In-Reply-To: <40962A5F.9050003@insight.rr.com> References: <200405031059.43988.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> <40962A5F.9050003@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1083601298.2925.4.camel@box1.lan> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:17, Jim Cornette wrote: > Ted wrote: > > I have both Fedora and Debian on my drive...Debian will burn cd's ok and > > cdrecord -scanbus tells me the burner is 0,0,0 whereas Fedora tells me 1,0,0 > > and in Fedora I get an error message... > > scsidev: 'ATA' > > devname: 'ATA' > > scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 > > Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. > > Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 > > > > I notice I do not call for ide=scsi in the grub boot in fedora yet I do in the > > working Debian on the older kernel.... > > The 2.6 kernel uses the ide-cd driver instead. Sometimes the CDROM needs > this added to the grub.conf file. > > > I have checked in /dev and the link is ok to hcd so anyone tell me > > where I am going wrong ?? > > /dev/cdrom or /dev/cdwriter? (pointing to /dev/hdc) > > I'm on an FC1 nstallation right now. ls -la /dev/cd* gives me the below > output. FC2 of course should be different. > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 2 17:07 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 > ..... > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 3 06:52 /dev/cdwriter -> /dev/sg0 > > Have you tried to burn using the nautilus CD burner feature? (right > click on ISO file. Choose write to CD.) > > Jim [root at box1 dev]# ls -la cd* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Apr 29 20:59 cdrom -> /dev/hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Apr 29 20:59 cdrom1 -> /dev/hdd brw-rw---- 1 root disk 15, 0 Feb 23 21:02 cdu31a brw-rw---- 1 root disk 24, 0 Feb 23 21:02 cdu535 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 3 10:18 cdwriter -> /dev/hdc [root at box1 dev]# This is what I get...so the cdwriter is seen however Nautilus says I have no cdwriter but the kde hardware gui se the cdwriter I have tried ide=scsi in Grubfor hdc but no joy.... -- Regards Ted Wager Using Fedora Linux From greg at gulik.org Mon May 3 16:30:45 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 11:30:45 -0500 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083570294.29548.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <409673B5.60809@gulik.org> I have to agree. It shouldn't break anything and is one of those things that just "should work" and would cause a LOT of frustration to users. I speak from personal experience. Benjamin FrantzDale wrote: > Thanks, I'll give that a try. > > I was asking because it seems like USB CF readers are the sort of thing > that should Just Work (or at least should just require adding a line > to /etc/fstab). So is there any reason this number isn't set higher by > default? -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From gcarter at aesgi.com Mon May 3 17:15:07 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:15:07 -0500 Subject: FC2 Test 3 doesn't start PCMCIA NIC In-Reply-To: <1083595977.14134.1.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <200405020121.13978.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <1083595977.14134.1.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <40967E1B.3040802@aesgi.com> After you do the mod probe, and everything is working the way you want, try issuing a depmod -a. -gc Timothy wrote: >I have the same problem. yenta_socket doesn't get started. Cardmgr >gives me the no socket message. I can modprobe yenta_socket and start >pcmcia manually and everything is OK. > >Timothy > > >On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 01:21, ByteEnable wrote: > > >>I have an older PIII Dell Latitude that works fine with FC1. With FC2 Test 3, >>it will not start the PCMCIA NIC (PCNET_CS). If I remember correctly, it >>needs to start yenta, and its not. >> >>Byte >> >> >> > > > > From lowen at pari.edu Mon May 3 17:29:11 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 13:29:11 -0400 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <409673B5.60809@gulik.org> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <409673B5.60809@gulik.org> Message-ID: <200405031329.11058.lowen@pari.edu> On Monday 03 May 2004 12:30, Gregory Gulik wrote: > I have to agree. It shouldn't break anything and is one of those things > that just "should work" and would cause a LOT of frustration to users. > I speak from personal experience. See http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37935 for the older reason why. More breaks with multi-lun than breaks without, apparently. Then see http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=85851 for a newer version of same. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From greg at gulik.org Mon May 3 17:32:30 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:32:30 -0500 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <200405031329.11058.lowen@pari.edu> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <409673B5.60809@gulik.org> <200405031329.11058.lowen@pari.edu> Message-ID: <4096822E.1060204@gulik.org> Ah, however multi-unit devices such as USB card readers are getting more common than SCSI devices. I only use SCSI in my servers, all my desktops are IDE-only for a while now. Lamar Owen wrote: > See http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37935 for the older > reason why. More breaks with multi-lun than breaks without, apparently. > > Then see http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=85851 for a newer > version of same. -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From pmmm at rnl.ist.utl.pt Mon May 3 17:53:17 2004 From: pmmm at rnl.ist.utl.pt (Pedro Morais) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 18:53:17 +0100 Subject: FC2t3: error installing Sun j2re rpm on kickstart %post Message-ID: <200405031853.17625.pmmm@rnl.ist.utl.pt> Hi! First of all this is not a "jvm does not work" problem; it works just fine, after I manage to install it. I've been checking my kickstarts against FC2 test 3; other than small changes, the only problem is that installing the j2re rpm on %post gives the following error: --------------------------------------------------------------- Retrieving http://kickstart/redhat/fc2/extra/java/j2re.rpm Preparing... ################################################## j2re ################################################## error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/CHANGES;40967cf3: cpio: lsetfilecon failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device --------------------------------------------------------------- j2re.rpm is a symlink on the webserver to j2re 1.4.2_02. However, if I just give the rpm -Uvh command after the install is complete, using exactly the same http url, everything works fine (besides the file_contexts warnings). The CHANGES file mentioned on the error message is the first file on the RPM. Other RPMs are installed ok, so this is not a generic rpm-in-%post issue. On the rpm package changelog I found this: --------------------------------------------------------------- * Qua Mar 10 2004 Jeff Johnson 4.3-0.20 - add sparcv8 and enable elf32/elf64 Zon sparc64 (#117302). - fix: --querybynumber looped. - fix: ENOTSUP filter from lsetfilecon borkage. ... Sex Mar 05 2004 Jeff Johnson 4.3-0.18 - selinux: ignore ENOTSUP return from lsetfilecon. --------------------------------------------------------------- Could it be that that the 'rpm' binary in post is different (older) than the one that ends up installed? And maybe this could be related to this bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120552 All SELinux-related stuff was left at the default values. Worth putting in bugzilla? Pedro Morais From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Mon May 3 17:16:14 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 20:16:14 +0300 Subject: First look at FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <1083587243.1018.115.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083587243.1018.115.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083604573.9059.4.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 15:27, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Sorry for my poor English. thanks for your time to search existing bugs instead of making new ones directly! > xorg-x11-truetype-fonts is not installed by default. Normal ? don't think so! Why not have the fonts if xorg was installed? > In /etc/X11/xorg.conf, i have : > Section "InputDevice" > [...] > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > EndSection > > Why ? I have a "real" 3 buttons mouse. was the option Emulate 3 Buttons checked in anaconda? It should be unchecked by default if 3 buttons mouse selected. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 3 18:09:39 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 20:09:39 +0200 Subject: First look at FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <1083604573.9059.4.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1083587243.1018.115.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083604573.9059.4.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1083607756.8461.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 03/05/2004 ? 19:16, Marius Andreiana a ?crit : > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 15:27, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > Sorry for my poor English. > thanks for your time to search existing bugs instead of making new ones > directly! > > > xorg-x11-truetype-fonts is not installed by default. Normal ? > don't think so! Why not have the fonts if xorg was installed? > from /root/install.log Installation des paquetages 700 [...] Les paquetages suivants ?taient disponibles dans cette version mais ne sont PAS install?s [1]: [...] xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-Xnest-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-doc-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-sdk-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-syriac-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-truetype-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm <=== xorg-x11-twm-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm xorg-x11-xdm-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm [1] free traduction : the following packages has available but they are not installed. > > > In /etc/X11/xorg.conf, i have : > > Section "InputDevice" > > [...] > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > > EndSection > > > > Why ? I have a "real" 3 buttons mouse. > was the option Emulate 3 Buttons checked in anaconda? it is not the first time I install a RedHat/Fedora system :-) I use RedHat since 4.2. I'll do a new fresh install to confirm. > It should be > unchecked by default if 3 buttons mouse selected. > > -- > Marius Andreiana > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > http://www.galuna.ro > From dkramer at reflect.com Mon May 3 18:08:06 2004 From: dkramer at reflect.com (David Kramer) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 11:08:06 -0700 Subject: main menu icon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There is actually a symbolic link within the Bluecurve theme that points back to the /usr/share/pixmaps directory. Depending on which theme you have selected, it can either point to /usr/share/pixmaps/redhat-main-menu.png or /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-main-menu.png. For me just replaced both of those icons with the new icon I created. DK > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Quasar Jarosz > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:14 AM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: main menu icon > > > Thanks. It did turn out to be something like this. Oddly changing the icon > in /usr/shared/pixmaps didn't work, turned out it was one of the icons in > the Bluecurve theme.. i just hadn't changed the correct size one :) > > Thanks > > -Quasar > > On Mon, 3 May 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > > This is another not-really-testing question, but how do you change the > > > icon for the gnome main menu in FC2? i've tried the gconf > instructions for > > > fc1, as well as simply moving the icon.. neither works. Is > the Ugly Red > > > Hat now built right into gnome? :) > > > > > > > > > > If you change the theme selection, all your ICONs shoud be GNOME > > defaults. (Foot for menu, red dino for mozilla, other app launchers > > correct icons) > > > > I've tried it on both FC2 and FC1. It worked for both installations. It > > beats the plainer icons. > > > > I don't know how to undo this, use at your own risk. > > > > Preferences -->> theme. Then select a theme. Icons should change. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon May 3 18:22:38 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:22:38 -0400 Subject: Adding packages via yum In-Reply-To: <1083461404.9555.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083461404.9555.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083608558.20142.138.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 21:30, Trey Sizemore wrote: > ... snip ... < > Actually, I had asked for known good mirrors so...:-) Depends on where you are located as to what mirrors are "good" but here are some that work: [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch ftp://ftp.net.usf.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch http://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/development/$basearch http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch failovermethod=priority gpgcheck=1 Pick some geographically close entries from the mirrors list at http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html and follow Michael Stenner's advice from earlier in the thread about browsing to find the correct URLs for the development directories (for your architecture) with "headers" subdirectories present, then update yum.conf accordingly. Note: If you omit "failovermethod=priority" yum will default to roundrobin which randomly selects a url out of the list. I suggest not using download.fedora.redhat.com with roundrobin to avoid loading the master server, or much worse, having it as the sole entry as another responder suggested. Another downside to the default value of roundrobin is that the various repositories are nearly always in different states of [un]sync due to the fast rate of release of updates and different sync timing schemes. This may result in dependency errors that differ from one update attempt to another (more so than they do anyway with the dynamics of FC2 development). Phil From ksnider at flarn.com Mon May 3 18:40:21 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:40:21 -0400 Subject: Raid 1+0 (Raid 10), Anaconda Message-ID: <40969215.1040000@flarn.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is it possible to do a raid 1+0 install using anaconda? This would involve setting up two raid 0's, then doing a raid1 of the md devices, as outlined in the mdtab manpage. I can't find a way to do this via disk druid. If not, how about via kickstart? Or is there a way to set this up prior to install so that it's properly loaded in by Anaconda during install? - -- Ken Snider -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAlpIVJz/2kL0fCRgRAkP3AJ93XRwXCouD7ZsLrnn1I4OqWAZNEQCfZX+N FnblBGykFERX8/XwGopjYNQ= =WO/W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From markybob at capitolcreag.com Mon May 3 18:57:51 2004 From: markybob at capitolcreag.com (Marcos Pinto) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 14:57:51 -0400 Subject: gnome main-menu icon Message-ID: <1083610671.2025.11.camel@ip68-10-137-149.hr.hr.cox.net> i'm running fedora core 2 test 3 and i've been trying for two days to change the default main-menu icon from redhat's red hat to a custom one that i've been using for years. i tried changing it using gconftools-2, as i've done in the past, but it didnt work for me this time. a google search took me to http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/aaranya/redhat_gnome.html where i followed every instruction, tried every different method, and still didnt get it to work. what gives? the point of open source is to be able to customize the entire system. why would redhat deviate from the standard in this? anyone know how i can change this, the 'fedora way'? thanks for your help -marcos From theraven at sucs.org Mon May 3 19:01:21 2004 From: theraven at sucs.org (David Chisnall) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 20:01:21 +0100 Subject: Differences between installer kernel and installed kernel In-Reply-To: <20040430143129.8155C74463@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040430143129.8155C74463@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <44303820-9D34-11D8-9CE5-000A95DA29AC@sucs.org> I've tried that, and it seems to make no difference at all. I've tried every combination of VirtualPC settings I can think of, and I still get the same result. On 30 Apr 2004, at 15:31, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 14:39, David Chisnall wrote: >> As with Test 2, the install CD boots fine in VirtualPC 6 and installs. >> Once it has installed, it gets as far as saying Ok, booting the kernel >> before crashing. Can anyone suggest what might be different between >> the kernel used by the installer, and the one that is installed that >> might cause this (and ideally how to disable whatever it is)? > > The installer kernel should be the same as the non-smp 586 kernel. > Does it work if you boot the installed kernel with the option > "noreplacement" ? > > Dave > From dkramer at reflect.com Mon May 3 19:01:59 2004 From: dkramer at reflect.com (David Kramer) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:01:59 -0700 Subject: gnome main-menu icon In-Reply-To: <1083610671.2025.11.camel@ip68-10-137-149.hr.hr.cox.net> Message-ID: I actually just posted something on this, and yes they have changed it for some reason, I had to replace both the redhat-main-menu.png file and the gnome-main-menu.png file to contain my menu icon. I adjusted both because depending on which standard theme you use it could use either of those Icons. Let me know if you need more help with this. DK > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Marcos Pinto > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:58 AM > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: gnome main-menu icon > > > i'm running fedora core 2 test 3 and i've been trying for two days to > change the default main-menu icon from redhat's red hat to a custom one > that i've been using for years. i tried changing it using gconftools-2, > as i've done in the past, but it didnt work for me this time. a google > search took me to http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/aaranya/redhat_gnome.html > where i followed every instruction, tried every different method, and > still didnt get it to work. what gives? the point of open source is to > be able to customize the entire system. why would redhat deviate from > the standard in this? anyone know how i can change this, the 'fedora > way'? > thanks for your help > > -marcos > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From masterra at m-ra.net Mon May 3 19:21:29 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 14:21:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: gnome main-menu icon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, and for me, even replacing the two icons in /usr/share/pixmaps didn't do it, i had to replace them in /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/XXxXX/, for all the icons sizes.. though this may have to do with the size of my bar.. (much smaller than the Fedora default..) -Quasar On Mon, 3 May 2004, David Kramer wrote: > I actually just posted something on this, and yes they have changed it for > some reason, I had to replace both the redhat-main-menu.png file and the > gnome-main-menu.png file to contain my menu icon. I adjusted both because > depending on which standard theme you use it could use either of those > Icons. Let me know if you need more help with this. > > DK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Marcos Pinto > > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:58 AM > > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > Subject: gnome main-menu icon > > > > > > i'm running fedora core 2 test 3 and i've been trying for two days to > > change the default main-menu icon from redhat's red hat to a custom one > > that i've been using for years. i tried changing it using gconftools-2, > > as i've done in the past, but it didnt work for me this time. a google > > search took me to http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/aaranya/redhat_gnome.html > > where i followed every instruction, tried every different method, and > > still didnt get it to work. what gives? the point of open source is to > > be able to customize the entire system. why would redhat deviate from > > the standard in this? anyone know how i can change this, the 'fedora > > way'? > > thanks for your help > > > > -marcos > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 3 19:22:42 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:22:42 -0400 Subject: gnome main-menu icon In-Reply-To: <1083610671.2025.11.camel@ip68-10-137-149.hr.hr.cox.net> References: <1083610671.2025.11.camel@ip68-10-137-149.hr.hr.cox.net> Message-ID: <2C1BCEDE.2D9CAFB2@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 03 May 2004 14:57:51 -0400, Marcos Pinto wrote: > > i'm running fedora core 2 test 3 and i've been trying for two days to > change the default main-menu icon from redhat's red hat to a custom one > that i've been using for years. i tried changing it using gconftools-2, > as i've done in the past, but it didnt work for me this time. a google > search took me to http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/aaranya/redhat_gnome.html > where i followed every instruction, tried every different method, and > still didnt get it to work. what gives? the point of open source is to > be able to customize the entire system. why would redhat deviate from > the standard in this? anyone know how i can change this, the 'fedora > way'? > thanks for your help Err i got my menu icon to change when changing the icon theme... i just had to restart the panel for it to take effect. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122193 At most this is a small glitch becuase the gnome-panel doesn't notice the change. Unless you mean something different, I definitely saw the menu icon change on panel restart, and it definitely matched the icon themes i selected in the theme manager. -jef From alan at redhat.com Mon May 3 19:24:34 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:24:34 -0400 Subject: ATI drivers (was Re: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2) In-Reply-To: <200405031023.05780.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> <200405031023.05780.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040503192434.GA10919@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:23:05AM -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > Just on side note. Its great to see cross disciplinary techies using Linux. > Maybe you can use some Mind Control techniques on ATI to release better > drivers? ATI seem to respond well to politeness, understanding, willingness to help them get things done, and a certain amount of persistance and banging on the door 8) From dkramer at reflect.com Mon May 3 19:24:03 2004 From: dkramer at reflect.com (David Kramer) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:24:03 -0700 Subject: gnome main-menu icon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The icons under /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/XXxXX/ in my case 48x48, were all symbolics links back to /usr/share/pixmaps/, Once I found the theme I was using, Smokey Blue, I then traced the links back to /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-main-menu.png. I had created my icon to be 48 X 48 which was about the same as the redhat-main-menu.png icon. Hope that helps! DK > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Quasar Jarosz > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:21 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: RE: gnome main-menu icon > > > Yes, and for me, even replacing the two icons in /usr/share/pixmaps didn't > do it, i had to replace them in /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/XXxXX/, for all > the icons sizes.. though this may have to do with the size of my bar.. > (much smaller than the Fedora default..) > > -Quasar > > On Mon, 3 May 2004, David Kramer wrote: > > > I actually just posted something on this, and yes they have > changed it for > > some reason, I had to replace both the redhat-main-menu.png file and the > > gnome-main-menu.png file to contain my menu icon. I adjusted > both because > > depending on which standard theme you use it could use either of those > > Icons. Let me know if you need more help with this. > > > > DK > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > > > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Marcos Pinto > > > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:58 AM > > > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > Subject: gnome main-menu icon > > > > > > > > > i'm running fedora core 2 test 3 and i've been trying for two days to > > > change the default main-menu icon from redhat's red hat to a > custom one > > > that i've been using for years. i tried changing it using > gconftools-2, > > > as i've done in the past, but it didnt work for me this time. > a google > > > search took me to http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/aaranya/redhat_gnome.html > > where i followed every instruction, tried every different method, and > > still didnt get it to work. what gives? the point of open source is to > > be able to customize the entire system. why would redhat deviate from > > the standard in this? anyone know how i can change this, the 'fedora > > way'? > > thanks for your help > > > > -marcos > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From markybob at capitolcreag.com Mon May 3 19:27:36 2004 From: markybob at capitolcreag.com (Marcos Pinto) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 15:27:36 -0400 Subject: gnome main-menu icon In-Reply-To: <2C1BCEDE.2D9CAFB2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1083610671.2025.11.camel@ip68-10-137-149.hr.hr.cox.net> <2C1BCEDE.2D9CAFB2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1083612456.2025.14.camel@ip68-10-137-149.hr.hr.cox.net> i had restarted the panel, so that's not the problem i encountered. thanks to everyone's response, though, i was able to get it working correctly. hopefully fedora developers will decide to make this work with the standard methods (gconf), as it should. On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 15:22, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, 03 May 2004 14:57:51 -0400, Marcos Pinto > wrote: > > > > i'm running fedora core 2 test 3 and i've been trying for two days to > > change the default main-menu icon from redhat's red hat to a custom one > > that i've been using for years. i tried changing it using gconftools-2, > > as i've done in the past, but it didnt work for me this time. a google > > search took me to http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/aaranya/redhat_gnome.html > > where i followed every instruction, tried every different method, and > > still didnt get it to work. what gives? the point of open source is to > > be able to customize the entire system. why would redhat deviate from > > the standard in this? anyone know how i can change this, the 'fedora > > way'? > > thanks for your help > > Err i got my menu icon to change when changing the icon theme... i > just had to restart the panel for it to take effect. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122193 > > At most this is a small glitch becuase the gnome-panel doesn't > notice the change. Unless you mean something different, I definitely > saw the menu icon change on panel restart, and it definitely matched > the icon themes i selected in the theme manager. > > -jef > From masterra at m-ra.net Mon May 3 19:28:02 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 14:28:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: gnome main-menu icon In-Reply-To: <2C1BCEDE.2D9CAFB2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1083610671.2025.11.camel@ip68-10-137-149.hr.hr.cox.net> <2C1BCEDE.2D9CAFB2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually, there is an entry in gconf to specify the menu use a custom icon, and aparently it worked in previous versions of either FC or Gnome (not really sure when it broke), but it does not work anymore. I set the use_custom_icon key, and set the custom_icon key to the complete path, and there is no change, even after a panel restart. Theme icons do work though, as you said. A panel restart was required for me too. -Quasar On Mon, 3 May 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, 03 May 2004 14:57:51 -0400, Marcos Pinto > wrote: > > > > i'm running fedora core 2 test 3 and i've been trying for two days to > > change the default main-menu icon from redhat's red hat to a custom one > > that i've been using for years. i tried changing it using gconftools-2, > > as i've done in the past, but it didnt work for me this time. a google > > search took me to http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/aaranya/redhat_gnome.html > > where i followed every instruction, tried every different method, and > > still didnt get it to work. what gives? the point of open source is to > > be able to customize the entire system. why would redhat deviate from > > the standard in this? anyone know how i can change this, the 'fedora > > way'? > > thanks for your help > > Err i got my menu icon to change when changing the icon theme... i > just had to restart the panel for it to take effect. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122193 > > At most this is a small glitch becuase the gnome-panel doesn't > notice the change. Unless you mean something different, I definitely > saw the menu icon change on panel restart, and it definitely matched > the icon themes i selected in the theme manager. > > -jef > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 3 19:36:02 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:36:02 -0400 Subject: gnome main-menu icon In-Reply-To: References: <1083610671.2025.11.camel@ip68-10-137-149.hr.hr.cox.net> <2C1BCEDE.2D9CAFB2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2C1738CC.6872E10@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 3 May 2004 14:28:02 -0500 (CDT), Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > Actually, there is an entry in gconf to specify the menu use a custom > icon, and aparently it worked in previous versions of either FC or Gnome > (not really sure when it broke), but it does not work anymore. I set the > use_custom_icon key, and set the custom_icon key to the complete path, and > there is no change, even after a panel restart. Theme icons do work > though, as you said. A panel restart was required for me too. Now... before we all jump to conclusions that this was an evil plot to take choice away from users. Is this bug filed in the redhat.bugzilla.com? Or perhaps it was an upstream bug report already against the version of gnome 2.6 thats in fc2t3? -jef"i showed you my bugreport...where is yours?"spaleta From nadiizu at earthlink.net Mon May 3 11:25:33 2004 From: nadiizu at earthlink.net (Nadeem Bitar) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 04:25:33 -0700 Subject: ATI drivers (was Re: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2) In-Reply-To: <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> Message-ID: <1083583533.3658.10.camel@miharu> On ?, 2004-05-03 at 06:54 -0400, Jonathan Baron wrote: > On 05/03/04 09:10, Andy Green wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >o ATI I don't know about, it certainly supports ATI notebook video to the > >extent of 2D and XV (accellerated movie playback) though. > >- -- > > Not quite. The new Dell Inspiron 9100 has a "WSXGA+" ATI video > card, which is designed to work with the 1680x1050 display. (I > guess the "W" is for "wide." It is very wide.) The current > driver that comes with Fedora Core 2 test 3 will do only > 1400x1050. The result is that everything is s t r e t c h e d > out. (I admit that I didn't notice it right away. I though I > was just having trouble finding nice fonts.) > I have the Dell Inspigon 9100 (WUXGA) and I was able, after few hours, to configure it to do 1900x1200 using the radeon driver. I still have to figure out how to get dual monitor part to work. Email me if you need my xorg.conf file. -Nadeem > This is also true with the latest available ATI driver from > http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/linuxhowto-ati.html > although I must also say that, after going through their > recommended configuration procedure and moving XFree86-4 to > xorg.conf, nothing is any worse (and perhaps better, since I've > been unable to configure the dual monitor part so far, and this > claims to do that, although I haven't tried it). > > I'm going to try to contact ATI directly about this. > -- > Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania > Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From tim+redhat.com at coote.org Mon May 3 20:20:15 2004 From: tim+redhat.com at coote.org (tim+redhat.com at coote.org) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 21:20:15 +0100 Subject: centrino wifi support In-Reply-To: <40963959.2090500@bob.usuhs.mil> References: <20040502175419.GA22322@fw.coote.org> <40963959.2090500@bob.usuhs.mil> Message-ID: <20040503202015.GA23847@fw.coote.org> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 08:21:45AM -0400, Robert Williams wrote: > The Linuxant "driverloader" works well > on my Sony TR1A Centrino system, > faster than the free drivers for my > DLink DWL-650+ pcmcia card. > that's a great relief. I now know that the open source project *can* make 4k stacks work. tc From bstretch at mindspring.com Mon May 3 20:23:23 2004 From: bstretch at mindspring.com (Brian Stretch) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Replacing Broadcom miniPCI with Atheros Message-ID: <13519109.1083615803517.JavaMail.root@wamui07.slb.atl.earthlink.net> HP's position on WiFi under Linux is to try the Linuxant wrapper and if that doesn't work, go buy a PCMCIA card. They seem largely clueless as to the existence of 64-bit Linux, or the fact that the Athlon 64 is a "real" 64-bit chip. Mind you, this is from the high-level American techs, not the Indian newbies, and they've stopped returning my calls, likely because they don't have the power to do anything about the problems I've spent considerable time documenting for them. I get the impression that the techs really want to help but management is just not backing them up. Not that any of the other big OEMs would be any better, but it's scary how much HP doesn't know. Their excuse as to why I can't swap in the Atheros card: incompatible I/O range. Yeah, right, that's why the error message explicitly says "wireless network device"? They don't know anything about a BIOS whitelist and vaguely deny that it exists. I tried emailing Compal (who builds this notebook) and didn't get anything useful out of them, unsurprisingly. Now, once you give this notebook SODIMMs that it likes (Micron PC2700 or better preferably) and just give up on getting a miniPCI wireless card to work it's very Linux friendly, what with a nVidia graphics chip and all (though a very obsolete one). They've added a 1920x1200 res screen option, something I've not seen in an AMD based notebook before. Fedora Core 2 Test 3 now gracefully handles the K8 Errata #93 that HP has neglected to patch in their BIOS. The laptop is VERY stable, I haven't been able to overheat it like I've been able to do with previous laptops I've owned. But HP could *own* the Linux laptop market with a few minor tweaks and they're too stunningly clueless to care. It's extremely frustrating. Maybe ASUS's upcoming Athlon 64 notebook will be better, if they actually sell them on this side of the pond. At least it's got a proper video chip (GeForceFX 5650), and I doubt they'd put in a wireless card whitelist in their BIOS. Anyone want to buy my Atheros 802.11g miniPCI card? I'll throw in a DVD of FC2T3 (32-bit or 64-bit or both). -----Original Message----- From: Alan Cox Sent: Apr 21, 2004 12:59 PM To: Brian Stretch , For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Replacing Broadcom miniPCI with Atheros On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 12:42:27PM -0400, Brian Stretch wrote: > I have a new HP zv5000z Athlon 64 notebook. It came with one > of the hated Linux-hostile Broadcom wireless cards. I tried swapping > in an Atheros wireless card, which fits... but the BIOS says: > > "104-Unsupported wireless network device detect" > > and I have to shut down and remove the card to get any futher. It > sure looks like HP is deliberately disabling non-HP wireless cards, > given that explicit message. It isnt about non HP products. The mini-pci slot has the antenna seperate from the slot. When approvals are done for wireless they have to be done including card and antenna, as a result vendors using this setup have to lock to 'approved' products. Now its certainly true some of them make good business use of the lockin too Ask HP what the Linux supported and approved card option is. From philip at balister.org Mon May 3 20:31:19 2004 From: philip at balister.org (Philip Balister) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:31:19 -0400 Subject: [fedora-test] centrino wifi support In-Reply-To: <20040502175419.GA22322@fw.coote.org> References: <20040502175419.GA22322@fw.coote.org> Message-ID: <20040503203119.GO11433@nemesis.maddog.net> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 06:54:19PM +0100, tim+redhat.com at coote.org wrote: > > I don't know whether this problem with 4k stacks is to do with the ndiswrapper itself, or the windows drivers that it's encapsulating. I had the same problem. The ndiswrapper guys told me that the windows driver does strange memory allocations that fail under 4K stacks. I swtched to the open source driver. Philip From mike at alphamonkey.org Mon May 3 20:39:00 2004 From: mike at alphamonkey.org (Michael Styne) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 16:39:00 -0400 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <20040503160016.CE9CD7439E@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040503160016.CE9CD7439E@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4096ADE4.6040100@alphamonkey.org> > I have been trying to get my Epson 1240U scanner (which works in > everything prior to FC2Tx) to work, following bugzilla report 121511. > It is not clear exactly what needs to be done that seems to work for > some others. Could someone post a complete step-by-step process to this > list that details how to get usb scanners to work in FC2T3? > > Having a working scanner is a requirement for me to use FC2 when it is > released. > > Thanks. > > Gerry Tool > Gerry, Not sure if it'll help or not, but I managed to get my epson MFP working. http://east.alphamonkey.org/view/notes/394.php Things are a little different with the 2.6 kernel. Mike From aoliva at redhat.com Mon May 3 20:39:22 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 03 May 2004 17:39:22 -0300 Subject: lvm2 problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 28, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > Couldn't find device with uuid '2adyAl-cmc6-kSXj-a7Nu-IPmg-YF0e-5ERd6y'. > Couldn't find all physical volumes for volume group Volume00. > Volume group "Volume00" not found > It is not fatal, because it manages to mount anyway: Has this device ever held a RAID member? Recent versions of lvm check for a RAID superblock and skip block devices that contain them. You may use mdadm --zero-superblock (sp?) to fix that. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon May 3 20:47:30 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 16:47:30 -0400 Subject: VMware and Fedora In-Reply-To: <4093B52A.5030908@skyhouseconsulting.com> References: <4093B52A.5030908@skyhouseconsulting.com> Message-ID: <1083617250.20142.240.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 10:33, Jeffrey Harris wrote: > Hi, > > I've been having exactly the same problem as you mention here: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg01723.html > > I've got VMware on Windows XP running Mandrake 9.2 reasonably well, but > when I try to install Fedora Core 2 test 3 VMware crashes at a random > point (sometimes immediately, sometimes when it's 90% of the way > finished installing). > > I'm wondering if you ever heard back from VMware or otherwise managed to > solve your problem. I can't find any other mention of this particular > error on the web. Neither can I, and no I haven't been able to make any headway. Going to check it out on the VMware forum when I find time. Both threads I started on this issue on fedora-test-list got sidetracked onto running VMware under FC2 rather than vice versa, and Red Hat marked my Bugzilla entry https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121876 to CLOSED/NOTABUG - admittedly not without justification - seems to be a VMware bug, not FC2, but I wanted it on their radar screen. This limits my FC2 testing ability at work - not willing to risk killing my main machine. Still testing at home but time there is very limited. Phil From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Mon May 3 20:53:03 2004 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 13:53:03 -0700 Subject: OT Setting CPU Affinity Message-ID: <1083617583.24000.4.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Sorry for the Off-Topic here, but I am testing FC2T3 on a Dual-Proc machine and wanted to try a different test. Is there a command line application that can be used to lock a process on a single CPU or logical CPU(HyperThreading)? I am running into a performance lag with a Java app that seems to manifest itself under multiple processors. -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 From wtogami at redhat.com Mon May 3 21:19:52 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 11:19:52 -1000 Subject: VMware and Fedora In-Reply-To: <1083617250.20142.240.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <4093B52A.5030908@skyhouseconsulting.com> <1083617250.20142.240.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <4096B778.80409@redhat.com> Running FC2 Test3 and higher in VMWare is broken because VMWare needs to implement vdso. For now you can use "vdso=0" boot option. It works for me when running FC2 Test3 within VMWare 4.5.1 hosted on FC2 Test3. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From cmedford at mitre.org Mon May 3 21:31:26 2004 From: cmedford at mitre.org (Chyld Medford) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:31:26 -0500 Subject: VMware and Fedora In-Reply-To: <4096B778.80409@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405031631648.SM00352@alchyld> I also am using VMware Workstation 4.5.1 build 7568 and Fedora Core 2 Test 3 crashes during the last phase of install - where the files are being copied from the CD to the hard disk. I'll try out your suggestion and see if that works. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Warren Togami Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:20 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: VMware and Fedora Running FC2 Test3 and higher in VMWare is broken because VMWare needs to implement vdso. For now you can use "vdso=0" boot option. It works for me when running FC2 Test3 within VMWare 4.5.1 hosted on FC2 Test3. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon May 3 21:44:39 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 17:44:39 -0400 Subject: cdwriter In-Reply-To: <1083601298.2925.4.camel@box1.lan> References: <200405031059.43988.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> <40962A5F.9050003@insight.rr.com> <1083601298.2925.4.camel@box1.lan> Message-ID: <4096BD47.8010209@insight.rr.com> Ted wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:17, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Ted wrote: >> >>>I have both Fedora and Debian on my drive...Debian will burn cd's ok and >>>cdrecord -scanbus tells me the burner is 0,0,0 whereas Fedora tells me 1,0,0 >>>and in Fedora I get an error message... >>>scsidev: 'ATA' >>>devname: 'ATA' >>>scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 >>>Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. >>>Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 >>> >>>I notice I do not call for ide=scsi in the grub boot in fedora yet I do in the >>>working Debian on the older kernel.... >> >>The 2.6 kernel uses the ide-cd driver instead. Sometimes the CDROM needs >>this added to the grub.conf file. >> >> >>>I have checked in /dev and the link is ok to hcd so anyone tell me >>>where I am going wrong ?? >> >>/dev/cdrom or /dev/cdwriter? (pointing to /dev/hdc) >> >>I'm on an FC1 nstallation right now. ls -la /dev/cd* gives me the below >>output. FC2 of course should be different. >> >>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 2 17:07 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 >>..... >>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 3 06:52 /dev/cdwriter -> /dev/sg0 >> >>Have you tried to burn using the nautilus CD burner feature? (right >>click on ISO file. Choose write to CD.) >> >>Jim > > > > [root at box1 dev]# ls -la cd* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Apr 29 20:59 cdrom -> /dev/hdc > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Apr 29 20:59 cdrom1 -> /dev/hdd > brw-rw---- 1 root disk 15, 0 Feb 23 21:02 cdu31a > brw-rw---- 1 root disk 24, 0 Feb 23 21:02 cdu535 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 3 10:18 cdwriter -> /dev/hdc > [root at box1 dev]# > > This is what I get...so the cdwriter is seen however Nautilus > says I have no cdwriter but the kde hardware gui se the cdwriter > I have tried ide=scsi in Grubfor hdc but no joy.... > My installation of Fedora Core 2 with two cd burners has this symlinked to the drives. I burned ISOs with hdc and it worked great. It appears that the symlinks are correct. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Mar 10 11:41 cdrom -> /dev/hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Mar 10 11:41 cdrom1 -> /dev/hdd ... lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 2 11:02 cdwriter -> /dev/hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 2 11:02 cdwriter1 -> /dev/hdd In my grub.conf file, I have made the entries in it listed below. The first entry is without the ide-cd entry. It is the entry that I burned my last CDs with. The second entry is what I had to enter to get my cdwriters to work before. It has been awhile since I tried that entry. It used to work for me though. I'm sure that your entries will be a bit different for your setup. I hope this helps get you able to burn CDs. If not, check bugzilla for cdrom burning problems. Jim title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) root (hd1,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ selinux=0 acpi=on 3 initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img title FTP Core (2.6.5-1.327) root (hd1,4) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/1 hdc=ide-cd hdd=ide-cd 3 initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 22:11:10 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 06:11:10 +0800 Subject: ATI drivers (was Re: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2) In-Reply-To: <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> Message-ID: <1083622270.4944.15.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 18:54, Jonathan Baron wrote: > I'm going to try to contact ATI directly about this. Good luck. Their stock answer is either that only the laptop manufacturer can release customized drivers for their hardware or that linux is not an officially supported platform, please see www.xfree86.org. -- Chris Kloiber From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Mon May 3 22:17:01 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 18:17:01 -0400 Subject: VMware and Fedora In-Reply-To: <4096B778.80409@redhat.com> References: <4093B52A.5030908@skyhouseconsulting.com> <1083617250.20142.240.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <4096B778.80409@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083622621.2382.12.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 11:19 -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > Running FC2 Test3 and higher in VMWare is broken because VMWare needs to > implement vdso. For now you can use "vdso=0" boot option. It works for > me when running FC2 Test3 within VMWare 4.5.1 hosted on FC2 Test3. Thanks (again) Warren - will try that. Meanwhile, back at the Mozilla page, just found the following on the VMware fora: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VMWare 4.5.1 on Windows XP: NOT_IMPLEMENTED 602 (7568) Posted: Apr 30, 2004 12:14 PM I have installed VMWare Workstation 4.5.1 on Windows XP Pro SP1. When I try to setup Fedora Core 2 Test 3, I have got the following "NOT IMPLEMENTED" error when the installer installs the package of kernel 2.6.5 (Copied from the error log generated): Apr 30 03:35:08: vcpu-0| MONITOR PANIC: NOT_IMPLEMENTED Apr 30 03:35:08: vcpu-0| Core dump with build build-7568 Apr 30 03:35:08: vcpu-0| Writing monitor corefile "E:\My Documents\My Virtual Machines\Other Linux\vmware-core.gz" Apr 30 03:35:08: vcpu-0| Setting vaddr to 0 Apr 30 03:35:08: vcpu-0| Beginning monitor coredump Apr 30 03:35:09: vcpu-0| End monitor coredump Apr 30 03:35:09: vcpu-0| Writing anonymous pages at pos: 401000 Apr 30 03:35:11: vcpu-0| Msg_Post: Error Apr 30 03:35:11: vcpu-0| [msg.log.monpanic] *** VMware Workstation internal monitor error *** Apr 30 03:35:11: vcpu-0| NOT_IMPLEMENTED at 602 (7568) Apr 30 03:35:11: vcpu-0| Apr 30 03:35:11: vcpu-0| Code: 00000602-00001d90-e3bfafe0-afff81e7-f1cba686-bfd69288-82c2a5cb-e0fb It seems that the monitor has got some problem and VMWare soon hung. This error can also be produced if I upgrade a Fedora distribution with the 2.6.5 kernel from the development tree of Fedora. The error comes out when Fedora starts "Redhat Nash..." Is there any workarounds that avoiding such error pops up? Thanks! Xavier Message was edited by: xavier114fch ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looks like VMware on Windoze suffers from the same problem I reported for an FC1 host with an FC2T3 guest. And a reply from Petr Vandrovec (the vmware-any-any patch guy): ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: VMWare 4.5.1 on Windows XP: NOT_IMPLEMENTED 602 (7568) Posted: Apr 30, 2004 1:19 PM Besides not using that kernel? No. Intel documentation says that SYSENTER should be used only to return to segment with limit 0xFFFFFFFF - but your RedHat kernel attempts to use 0xBFFFFFFF (probably they applied some stack no-exec patch). If RedHat provides some option for disabling stack no-exec capability or disabling systenter, you should use these options. As on real processor specified limit is ignored anyway (thus causing their no-exec patch being actually disabled on real processors by first syscall task does after task switch) I do not know what's purpose of that change anyway... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looks like Fedora could possibly make VMware happy without adverse effects on real processors, but kernel hackers will have to make that call. Phil From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 22:17:07 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 06:17:07 +0800 Subject: FYI: Script I wrote- Fedorasync.sh In-Reply-To: <1083585900.12046.40.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1083562015.29548.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083585900.12046.40.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1083622627.4944.19.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 20:05, Patrick wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Your script works like a charm. Thanks! There is one thing though... If > I run the script as a plain user with the repository in > /home/patrick/rawhide, it always fails at the mkisofs stage. If I run it > as root it works as advertised. The command I use is: > cd /home/patrick/ > ./FedoraSync.sh -live -del -paranoid -iso i386 > > The error message I get as a plain user is: > Size of boot image is 4 sectors -> No emulation > mkisofs: Permission denied. Error opening boot image file > './isolinux/isolinux.bin' for update. > > In the current rawhide tree isolinux.bin is 444 and mkisofs needs 644 to > do it's thing successfully. > > Is changing isolinux.bin from 444 to 644 something that needs to be done > in the rawhide tree or do I just work around this "feature" by changing > isolinux.bin from 444 to 644 in the script just before the mkisofs > command is issued and afterwards change it back? You might want to change the default location of the local repo. $LOCALDIR="/home/patrick/rawhide" or specify it on the command line: # FedoraSync.sh -iso /home/patrick/rawhide Then it should work. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 22:21:59 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 06:21:59 +0800 Subject: FC2T3 on emachines 6805 laptop In-Reply-To: <409660AE.1090505@comcast.net> References: <20040503013453.AE5CF73ADA@hormel.redhat.com> <1083464436.7205.5.camel@neo> <1083564189.29548.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> <409660AE.1090505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1083622919.4944.23.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 23:09, Kenny Speer wrote: > That's great but your kernel includes an awful lot of useless kruft. I > suggest you take my .config and rebuild the rpm and then repost > specifically for the m680x. You may want to make changes as I haven't > gotten everything to work yet but I've gotten rid of most of the > irrelevant modules. I'm sorry but I decided to make the minimum number of changes necessary from the stock Fedora kernels to make the system work. I don't prune things unnecessarily. -- Chris Kloiber From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon May 3 22:23:12 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 18:23:12 -0400 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> Gerry Tool wrote: > I have been trying to get my Epson 1240U scanner (which works in > everything prior to FC2Tx) to work, following bugzilla report 121511. > It is not clear exactly what needs to be done that seems to work for > some others. Could someone post a complete step-by-step process to this > list that details how to get usb scanners to work in FC2T3? > > Having a working scanner is a requirement for me to use FC2 when it is > released. > > Thanks. > > Gerry Tool > > > From the "Scanner Access Now Easy" website. With Linux 2.4.* you could either use the kernel scanner module or libusb to access USB scanners. In Linux 2.6.4 the kernel scanner module was removed. Therefore with this and later kernels libusb must be used. While SANE automatically uses libusb when the library and its header file were present during the build of sane-backends, setting permissions will require *some attention.* The device files used by libusb are located in /proc/bus/usb/ (e.g. /proc/bus/usb/001/003). The exact file name can be found out by running sane-find-scanner which would print "libusb:001:003" in this case. While setting permissions with e.g. "chmod a+rw /proc/bus/usb/001/003" seems to work, this change is not permanent. The permissions will be reset when the scanner is replugged or Linux is rebooted. One solution to set permissions on-the-fly are the Linux hot-plug tools that should come with any current distribution. SANE itsself comes with a hotplug script and related documentaion in the tools/hotplug/ directory. Please refer to the README in that directory for the details. My comment: Basically, permissions are not setup correctly with libusb. You need to set the permission of whatever device position that sane-find-scanner states. This has to run as root. The file permissions will not recognize the scanner as a normal user. Then you have to do what was stated above. I just tried to open my scanner without changing the file permissions and it did not work. I then ran the below command as root. chmod a+rw /proc/bus/usb/001/004 (001 is for the hub. 004 is the port on the hub, for my scanner. This gives the scanner file permissions rw for owner, group and others) ls -la /proc/bus/usb/001/004 -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 57 May 3 18:13 /proc/bus/usb/001/004 I then tried the scanner as a regular user. It worked after running the command. There is a new version that I just notified in the bug report mentioned above. Maybe the changes made will make scanner access easy again. Hope this is clearer. From alan at redhat.com Mon May 3 22:23:23 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 18:23:23 -0400 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <4096822E.1060204@gulik.org> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <409673B5.60809@gulik.org> <200405031329.11058.lowen@pari.edu> <4096822E.1060204@gulik.org> Message-ID: <20040503222323.GG31653@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 12:32:30PM -0500, Gregory Gulik wrote: > Ah, however multi-unit devices such as USB card readers are getting more > common than SCSI devices. I only use SCSI in my servers, all my > desktops are IDE-only for a while now. Bugzilla (or send upstream) info on multi-lun card readers tht dont just work. They can be added to the whitelist From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 3 22:24:48 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 06:24:48 +0800 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083570294.29548.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1083623088.4944.26.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 00:03, Benjamin FrantzDale wrote: > Thanks, I'll give that a try. > > I was asking because it seems like USB CF readers are the sort of thing > that should Just Work (or at least should just require adding a line > to /etc/fstab). So is there any reason this number isn't set higher by > default? My understanding is that it is not safe to probe all possible lun numbers on all scsi adapters (as in "crossing the streams" unsafe) so the default is to not enable them. -- Chris Kloiber From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 3 22:29:13 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 00:29:13 +0200 Subject: First look at FC2T2 In-Reply-To: <1083607756.8461.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083587243.1018.115.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083604573.9059.4.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1083607756.8461.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083623346.1614.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 03/05/2004 ? 20:09, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > Le lun 03/05/2004 ? 19:16, Marius Andreiana a ?crit : > > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 15:27, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > Sorry for my poor English. > > thanks for your time to search existing bugs instead of making new ones > > directly! > > > > > xorg-x11-truetype-fonts is not installed by default. Normal ? > > don't think so! Why not have the fonts if xorg was installed? > > > > from /root/install.log > Installation des paquetages 700 > [...] > Les paquetages suivants ?taient disponibles dans cette version mais ne sont PAS install?s [1]: > [...] > xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-ISO8859-14-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-Xnest-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-cyrillic-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-doc-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-sdk-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-syriac-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-truetype-fonts-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm <=== > xorg-x11-twm-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > xorg-x11-xdm-6.7.0-0.5.i386.rpm > > [1] free traduction : the following packages has available but they are not installed. > > > > > > In /etc/X11/xorg.conf, i have : > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > [...] > > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Why ? I have a "real" 3 buttons mouse. > > was the option Emulate 3 Buttons checked in anaconda? > > it is not the first time I install a RedHat/Fedora system :-) > I use RedHat since 4.2. > > I'll do a new fresh install to confirm. After a new fresh install, everything is confirmed. > > > It should be > > unchecked by default if 3 buttons mouse selected. There is no checkbox in anaconda to emulate a 3 buttons mouse in anaconda with FC2 (unlike FC1). > > > > -- > > Marius Andreiana > > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > > http://www.galuna.ro > > > From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Mon May 3 22:36:52 2004 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 15:36:52 -0700 Subject: OT Setting CPU Affinity In-Reply-To: <1083617583.24000.4.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <1083617583.24000.4.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <1083623812.24000.6.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Well, answered my own question...Seems that Robert Love created a utility(set of utilities) called "taskset" that allows you to override the scheduler and "lock" a process to a specific CPU. On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 13:53, Sean Bruno wrote: > Sorry for the Off-Topic here, but I am testing FC2T3 on a Dual-Proc > machine and wanted to try a different test. > > Is there a command line application that can be used to lock a process > on a single CPU or logical CPU(HyperThreading)? I am running into a > performance lag with a Java app that seems to manifest itself under > multiple processors. > > > -- > Sean Bruno > Telecommunications Engineer > Metro One Telecommunications > Desk (503)524-1632 > Cell (503)358-6832 > -- > Sean Bruno > Telecommunications Engineer > Metro One Telecommunications > Desk (503)524-1632 > Cell (503)358-6832 -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Mon May 3 22:58:54 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 18:58:54 -0400 Subject: yum config and apt config for FC2T3 Message-ID: <4096CEAE.4000001@rogers.com> I have installed FC2T2 and have upgraded by yum to something which seems like FC2T3. But I was using synaptic to upgrade some rpm's. So the box is a mismatch with rpm's. I have read the distrubution list and I can not figure out what are the real repositories for FC2T3 with both apt and yum. I'm trying to stay current with test releases for the video cam driver that I help write. Thank you... Dwaine Garden USBVision Driver. From markmc at redhat.com Mon May 3 23:18:11 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 00:18:11 +0100 Subject: bonobo-activation-server error In-Reply-To: <408A5E9D.6040203@comcast.net> References: <408A5E9D.6040203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1083626291.5813.8.camel@laptop> Hi, On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 13:33, Partha Bagchi wrote: > I get the following error whenever I boot up: > bonobo-activation-server (root-1844): iid OAFIID:BrokenNoType:20000808 > has a NULL type > Apr 23 19:09:32 Centrino bonobo-activation-server (root-1844): invalid > character '#' in iid 'OAFIID:This#!!%$iid%^$%_|~!OAFIID_ContainsBadChars' > > Has anyone seen this before? I am using FC2T2 with a generic 2.6.5 > kernel since I need to have the ipw2100 wireless driver. Its not an error - its a .server file which is only used for regression testing. We shouldn't package it. Could you file a bug against libbonobo and I'll get it fixed? Thanks, Mark. From markmc at redhat.com Mon May 3 23:31:41 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 00:31:41 +0100 Subject: Desktop switching tool problem In-Reply-To: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> References: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <1083627100.5813.11.camel@laptop> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 08:28, jeff wrote: > I just did a clean install of Test 3, all went well except in this > version, I can't get the desktop switching tool from the main menu to > work. It just goes off into the weeds and doesn't run. When I run > /user/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py, it says there is a syntax > problem in line 36. I ran /user/share/applications/switchdesk and, of > course, it runs switchdesk-gui.py with the same error. Any ideas? Advance forewarning of impending catastrophe. We'll probably be removing switchdesk in FC3: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-May/msg00010.html Cheers, Mark. From markmc at redhat.com Mon May 3 23:35:24 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 00:35:24 +0100 Subject: main menu icon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083627324.5813.14.camel@laptop> Hi, On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 04:38, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > This is another not-really-testing question, So, why ask it here ? > but how do you change the > icon for the gnome main menu in FC2? i've tried the gconf instructions for > fc1, as well as simply moving the icon.. neither works. Is the Ugly Red > Hat now built right into gnome? :) Untested, but it should give you the idea: $> gconftool-2 -s -t string /apps/panel/profiles/default/objects/main_menu/custom_icon $myicon $> gconftool-2 -s -t bool /apps/panel/profiles/default/objects/main_menu/use_custom_icon true Cheers, Mark. From marcdeslauriers at videotron.ca Mon May 3 23:39:25 2004 From: marcdeslauriers at videotron.ca (Marc Deslauriers) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 19:39:25 -0400 Subject: bug in FC2 test3 libmng package when compiling xine? In-Reply-To: <20040503064652.77888.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040503064652.77888.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1083627565.22699.1.camel@mdlinux> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 02:46, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > checking for mng_initialize in -lmng... yes > checking libmng.h usability... no > checking libmng.h presence... no > checking for libmng.h... no > *** All libmng dependent parts will be disabled *** Works for me: checking for mng_initialize in -lmng... yes checking libmng.h usability... yes checking libmng.h presence... yes [root at mdlinux xine-lib-1-rc4]# rpm -qa | grep mng libmng-1.0.4-5.1 libmng-devel-1.0.4-5.1 Do you actually have libmng.h in /usr/include ? What version of xine are you trying? Marc. From mike at netlyncs.com Mon May 3 23:40:47 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 18:40:47 -0500 Subject: can't view webalizer usage stats Message-ID: <1083627647.1982.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> I am trying to view my usage stats for webalizer but it doesnt' seem to let me. I have usage located in /var/www/html/ dir and the /etc/webalizer.conf points to that location (I moved it thinking it might be the problem), but I get permission denied. http://www.netlyncs.com/usage/ Can someone take a look and give me a hint on what the problem is? Permissions? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 3 23:41:57 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 01:41:57 +0200 Subject: rsync and file device Message-ID: <1083627714.960.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Very annoying bug with rsync. It seams it has been introduced in rsync-2.6.1-0.pre1 . I don't see this problem with FC2T1 (and perhaps FC2T2). # rpm -q rsync rsync-2.6.1-0.pre1 example : # cd / # rsync --archive dev /tmp/ # ll dev/vcs56 tmp/dev/vcs56 crw--w---- 1 vcsa tty 7, 56 f?v 23 22:02 dev/vcs56 crw--w---- 1 vcsa tty 7, 14 f?v 23 22:02 tmp/dev/vcs56 # ll dev/video1394/0 tmp/dev/video1394/0 crw------- 1 root root 171, 16 f?v 23 22:02 dev/video1394/0 crw------- 1 root root 171, 19 f?v 23 22:02 tmp/dev/video1394/0 another example : # cd / # find dev -depth -print0 | cpio -p --null -a -m -d tmp # rsync --verbose --archive dev tmp/ # no file should be updated building file list ... done dev/ataraid/d0 dev/ataraid/d0p1 dev/ataraid/d0p10 dev/ataraid/d0p11 dev/ataraid/d0p12 dev/ataraid/d0p13 dev/ataraid/d0p14 dev/ataraid/d0p15 [...] dev/video/em8300 dev/video/em8300_ma dev/video/em8300_sp dev/video1394/0 dev/video1394/1 dev/video1394/2 wrote 322178 bytes read 20 bytes 30685.52 bytes/sec total size is 16614 speedup is 0.05 # More than 2000 files modified ! # ll dev/ataraid/d0 tmp/dev/ataraid/d0 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 114, 0 f?v 23 22:02 dev/ataraid/d0 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 114, 123 f?v 23 22:02 tmp/dev/ataraid/d0 # ll dev/video1394/2 tmp/dev/video1394/2 crw------- 1 root root 171, 18 f?v 23 22:02 dev/video1394/2 crw------- 1 root root 171, 19 f?v 23 22:02 tmp/dev/video1394/2 With kernel-2.6.5-1.327 and kernel-2.6.5-1.349. Anyone else can confirm this ? From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 3 23:46:07 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 01:46:07 +0200 Subject: can't view webalizer usage stats In-Reply-To: <1083627647.1982.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1083627647.1982.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1083627967.960.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mar 04/05/2004 ? 01:40, Mike Chambers a ?crit : > I am trying to view my usage stats for webalizer but it doesnt' seem to > let me. I have usage located in /var/www/html/ dir and the > /etc/webalizer.conf points to that location (I moved it thinking it > might be the problem), but I get permission denied. > > http://www.netlyncs.com/usage/ > > Can someone take a look and give me a hint on what the problem is? > Permissions? # cat /etc/httpd/conf.d/webalizer.conf # # This configuration file maps the webalizer log analysis # results (generated daily) into the URL space. By default # these results are only accessible from the local host. # Alias /usage /var/www/usage Order deny,allow Deny from all <========= Allow from 127.0.0.1 <========= Allow from ::1 # Allow from .example.com Try with http://localhost/usage/ . Work here. > -- > Mike Chambers > Madisonville, KY > > "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" > From alan at redhat.com Mon May 3 23:51:13 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 19:51:13 -0400 Subject: rsync and file device In-Reply-To: <1083627714.960.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083627714.960.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040503235113.GC5314@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 01:41:57AM +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Very annoying bug with rsync. > It seams it has been introduced in rsync-2.6.1-0.pre1 . I don't see this > problem with FC2T1 (and perhaps FC2T2). Supposed to be fixed in the next one - known bug From jphoude at fastmail.fm Tue May 4 00:01:47 2004 From: jphoude at fastmail.fm (Jean-Pascal Houde) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 20:01:47 -0400 Subject: can't view webalizer usage stats In-Reply-To: <1083627967.960.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083627647.1982.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1083627967.960.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4096DD6B.2060003@fastmail.fm> Matias Feliciano wrote: > > Order deny,allow > Deny from all <========= > Allow from 127.0.0.1 <========= > Allow from ::1 > # Allow from .example.com > > > > It's a little bit off-topic, but can someone explain me what is the meaning of "::1" ? I think I saw that in /etc/hosts too. From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue May 4 00:21:14 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 02:21:14 +0200 Subject: rsync and file device In-Reply-To: <20040503235113.GC5314@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083627714.960.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040503235113.GC5314@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083630063.960.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mar 04/05/2004 ? 01:51, Alan Cox a ?crit : > On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 01:41:57AM +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > Very annoying bug with rsync. > > It seams it has been introduced in rsync-2.6.1-0.pre1 . I don't see this > > problem with FC2T1 (and perhaps FC2T2). > > Supposed to be fixed in the next one - known bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122357 http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/rsync-2.6.2-NEWS BUG FIXES: - Fixed a major bug in the sorting of the filenames when --relative is used for some sources (just sources such as "/" and "/*" were affected). This fix ensures that we ask for the right file-list item when requesting changes from the sender. I don't use -R (--relative) flag. In my example, i use -a : -a, --archive archive mode, equivalent to -rlptgoD (there is no -R) It's not the same bug. I carefully check the copy of my whole system and everything seems fine. Here the problem appear only with files device. I'll check this bug with rsync 2.6.2. From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Tue May 4 00:26:31 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:26:31 +0800 Subject: can't view webalizer usage stats In-Reply-To: <4096DD6B.2060003@fastmail.fm> References: <1083627647.1982.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1083627967.960.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4096DD6B.2060003@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <1083630391.4944.31.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 08:01, Jean-Pascal Houde wrote: > Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > > > Order deny,allow > > Deny from all <========= > > Allow from 127.0.0.1 <========= > > Allow from ::1 > > # Allow from .example.com > > > > > > > > > It's a little bit off-topic, but can someone explain me what is the > meaning of "::1" ? > I think I saw that in /etc/hosts too. I could be wrong, but I think it's a shorthand for an IPv6 address. I have not looked at IPv6 much yet. -- Chris Kloiber From thisismyspamdump at rogers.com Tue May 4 00:32:56 2004 From: thisismyspamdump at rogers.com (Joe Reid) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 20:32:56 -0400 Subject: can't view webalizer usage stats In-Reply-To: <1083630391.4944.31.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1083627647.1982.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1083627967.960.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4096DD6B.2060003@fastmail.fm> <1083630391.4944.31.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083630776.13521.1.camel@bean> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 20:26, Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 08:01, Jean-Pascal Houde wrote: > > Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > > > > > > Order deny,allow > > > Deny from all <========= > > > Allow from 127.0.0.1 <========= > > > Allow from ::1 > > > # Allow from .example.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a little bit off-topic, but can someone explain me what is the > > meaning of "::1" ? > > I think I saw that in /etc/hosts too. > > I could be wrong, but I think it's a shorthand for an IPv6 address. I > have not looked at IPv6 much yet. > > -- > Chris Kloiber Isn't that the IPv6 equivalent of 127.0.0.1? Joe From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue May 4 00:40:56 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 02:40:56 +0200 Subject: ARRGH! Metacity is killing me. In-Reply-To: <1083556762.7302.12.camel@CirithUngol> References: <20040430041143.GA2113@jadzia.bu.edu> <1083299232.9256.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083300174.24911.7.camel@CirithUngol> <1083498349.5228.2.camel@littlePiet> <1083556762.7302.12.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1083631255.8393.12.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 03.05.2004 schrieb Andrew Farris um 05:59: > Copy all of the below RPMs (hopefully they are all present on the cds) > to a directory locally and install them all at once. Alternatively you > could just run an rpm command that took all of these as arguments > directly from the cd. I do not have the test3 cd handy to check whether > any of these have been updated since test3 (I don't think so). Thanks! Didn't know about the libxf* packages. Found them on CD 3 and then managed to install. Peter From brianjorgensen2 at hotmail.com Sun May 2 18:29:36 2004 From: brianjorgensen2 at hotmail.com (Brian Jorgensen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:29:36 -0600 Subject: centrino wifi support References: <20040502175419.GA22322@fw.coote.org> Message-ID: That might explain why I can't get ndiswrapper to work at all. What is the incompatibility and what needs to be done to fix it? Looks like I'll need to reinstall core 1. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:54 AM Subject: centrino wifi support > Hullo > > I just know that this is going to be a potential minefield, so let me reassure everyone that this is meant with the best of intentions. > > Like many people, I've got a centrino based laptop and I want to use wifi when I've got it booted as a Linux device. Although Intel has > started to support an open source driver for the centrino wifi, this is still not as mature as the ndiswrapper driver (in fact, I can't > use it at all as I need ad-hoc mode). Unfortunately, > the latter driver can't handle the new 4k stack pages that 2.6 is moving to and that have already been removed form the Fedora > test distribution. > > I don't know whether this problem with 4k stacks is to do with the ndiswrapper itself, or the windows drivers that it's encapsulating. > I had a similar problem with Nvidia's nvidia driver that I eventually got around by using the xorg nv driver and futzing with the default > install (which only gives a 640x480 screen, which is too small to handle the UI - you lose many of the buttons on applications). > > I know that 2.6.6 is planned to only support 4k stacks when it's released. However, lack of wifi in particular reduces the testing that > I can do on the rest of FC2 and will slow down deployment of FC2 if it's released on 2.6.6. (it's unclear to me whether the kernel and fc2 > roadmaps make this likely or not.) > > I don't see what 2.6.6 support in FC2 buys me, but it's pretty clear what I'll lose, in the near term at least. > > Tim > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 4 01:57:19 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 20:57:19 -0500 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <4096ADE4.6040100@alphamonkey.org> References: <20040503160016.CE9CD7439E@hormel.redhat.com> <4096ADE4.6040100@alphamonkey.org> Message-ID: <4096F87F.50502@earthlink.net> Michael Styne wrote: >> I have been trying to get my Epson 1240U scanner (which works in >> everything prior to FC2Tx) to work, following bugzilla report 121511. >> It is not clear exactly what needs to be done that seems to work for >> some others. Could someone post a complete step-by-step process to >> this list that details how to get usb scanners to work in FC2T3? >> >> Having a working scanner is a requirement for me to use FC2 when it is >> released. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Gerry Tool >> > > Gerry, > > Not sure if it'll help or not, but I managed to get my epson MFP working. > > http://east.alphamonkey.org/view/notes/394.php > > Things are a little different with the 2.6 kernel. > > Mike Thanks a million for your reply, Mike. The combination of changing permissions on the /proc/bus/usb/.... file for the scanner according to Jim Cornette and modifying epson.conf according to your instructions made the scanner functional. I had modified the epson.conf file to uncomment the last line (always worked before), but changing that line to just "usb" was necessary. I had not come across any directions that this is the thing to do. I wonder why this file doesn't get installed with this change. Gerry Tool From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 4 02:00:29 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 21:00:29 -0500 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Gerry Tool wrote: > >> I have been trying to get my Epson 1240U scanner (which works in >> everything prior to FC2Tx) to work, following bugzilla report 121511. >> It is not clear exactly what needs to be done that seems to work for >> some others. Could someone post a complete step-by-step process to >> this list that details how to get usb scanners to work in FC2T3? >> >> Having a working scanner is a requirement for me to use FC2 when it is >> released. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Gerry Tool >> >> >> > > From the "Scanner Access Now Easy" website. > > > With Linux 2.4.* you could either use the kernel scanner module or > libusb to access USB scanners. In Linux 2.6.4 the kernel scanner module > was removed. > Therefore with this and later kernels libusb must be used. > > While SANE automatically uses libusb when the library and its header > file were present during the build of sane-backends, setting permissions > will require *some attention.* > > The device files used by libusb are located in /proc/bus/usb/ > (e.g. /proc/bus/usb/001/003). The exact file name can be found out by > running sane-find-scanner which would print "libusb:001:003" in this > case. While setting permissions with e.g. "chmod a+rw > /proc/bus/usb/001/003" seems to work, this change is not permanent. The > permissions will be reset when the scanner is replugged or Linux is > rebooted. > > One solution to set permissions on-the-fly are the Linux hot-plug tools > that should come with any current distribution. SANE itsself comes with > a hotplug script and related documentaion in the tools/hotplug/ > directory. Please refer to the README in that directory for the details. > > > My comment: > Basically, permissions are not setup correctly with libusb. You need to > set the permission of whatever device position that sane-find-scanner > states. This has to run as root. The file permissions will not recognize > the scanner as a normal user. > > Then you have to do what was stated above. I just tried to open my > scanner without changing the file permissions and it did not work. I > then ran the below command as root. > > chmod a+rw /proc/bus/usb/001/004 > > (001 is for the hub. 004 is the port on the hub, for my scanner. This > gives the scanner file permissions rw for owner, group and others) > > ls -la /proc/bus/usb/001/004 > -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 57 May 3 18:13 /proc/bus/usb/001/004 > > > I then tried the scanner as a regular user. It worked after running > the command. > > There is a new version that I just notified in the bug report mentioned > above. Maybe the changes made will make scanner access easy again. > > Hope this is clearer. > > Thanks for your reply, Jim. I changed the permissions, but that did not solve the problem. Another reply from Mike Styne held the other key. I needed to change the /etc/sane.d/epson.conf file in a different way from all previous releases. Thanks to the two of you, I now have a working scanner. I did verify that changing the permissions back broke it again. I hope the FC2 release will have this problem solved so that users don't have to muck around with either the permissions or the details of the xxxx.conf files. Gerry Tool From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Tue May 4 02:14:10 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 22:14:10 -0400 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> Gerry Tool wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Gerry Tool wrote: >> >>> I have been trying to get my Epson 1240U scanner (which works in >>> everything prior to FC2Tx) to work, following bugzilla report >>> 121511. It is not clear exactly what needs to be done that seems to >>> work for some others. Could someone post a complete step-by-step >>> process to this list that details how to get usb scanners to work in >>> FC2T3? >>> >>> Having a working scanner is a requirement for me to use FC2 when it >>> is released. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Gerry Tool >>> >>> >>> >> >> From the "Scanner Access Now Easy" website. >> >> >> With Linux 2.4.* you could either use the kernel scanner module or >> libusb to access USB scanners. In Linux 2.6.4 the kernel scanner >> module was removed. >> Therefore with this and later kernels libusb must be used. >> >> While SANE automatically uses libusb when the library and its header >> file were present during the build of sane-backends, setting >> permissions will require *some attention.* >> >> The device files used by libusb are located in /proc/bus/usb/ >> (e.g. /proc/bus/usb/001/003). The exact file name can be found out by >> running sane-find-scanner which would print "libusb:001:003" in this >> case. While setting permissions with e.g. "chmod a+rw >> /proc/bus/usb/001/003" seems to work, this change is not permanent. >> The permissions will be reset when the scanner is replugged or Linux >> is rebooted. >> >> One solution to set permissions on-the-fly are the Linux hot-plug >> tools that should come with any current distribution. SANE itsself >> comes with a hotplug script and related documentaion in the >> tools/hotplug/ directory. Please refer to the README in that directory >> for the details. >> >> >> My comment: >> Basically, permissions are not setup correctly with libusb. You need >> to set the permission of whatever device position that >> sane-find-scanner states. This has to run as root. The file >> permissions will not recognize the scanner as a normal user. >> >> Then you have to do what was stated above. I just tried to open my >> scanner without changing the file permissions and it did not work. I >> then ran the below command as root. >> >> chmod a+rw /proc/bus/usb/001/004 >> >> (001 is for the hub. 004 is the port on the hub, for my scanner. This >> gives the scanner file permissions rw for owner, group and others) >> >> ls -la /proc/bus/usb/001/004 >> -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 57 May 3 18:13 /proc/bus/usb/001/004 >> >> >> I then tried the scanner as a regular user. It worked after running >> the command. >> >> There is a new version that I just notified in the bug report >> mentioned above. Maybe the changes made will make scanner access easy >> again. >> >> Hope this is clearer. >> >> > Thanks for your reply, Jim. I changed the permissions, but that did not > solve the problem. Another reply from Mike Styne held the other key. I > needed to change the /etc/sane.d/epson.conf file in a different way from > all previous releases. Thanks to the two of you, I now have a working > scanner. I did verify that changing the permissions back broke it > again. I hope the FC2 release will have this problem solved so that > users don't have to muck around with either the permissions or the > details of the xxxx.conf files. > > Gerry Tool > > I was at a loss on this until Roland got me interested in trying it as root. I thought something was broken because scanner did not show up in lsmod. It showed up using the 2.4 kernel. I didn't realize that the scanner module was not in the 2.6 kernel. The scanner problem and the synaptic mousepad not functioning without fuss are two factors that disappoint me with the change to the 2.6 kernel. Hopefully, both issues will be ironed out by Fedora Core 2 release final. Glad the scanner is working for you now. Jim From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 4 02:20:32 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 22:20:32 -0400 Subject: lvm2 problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405032220.32592.ndbecker2@verizon.net> On Monday 03 May 2004 04:39 pm, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Apr 28, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > > Couldn't find device with uuid > > '2adyAl-cmc6-kSXj-a7Nu-IPmg-YF0e-5ERd6y'. Couldn't find all physical > > volumes for volume group Volume00. > > Volume group "Volume00" not found > > > > It is not fatal, because it manages to mount anyway: > > Has this device ever held a RAID member? Recent versions of lvm check > for a RAID superblock and skip block devices that contain them. You > may use mdadm --zero-superblock (sp?) to fix that. No, this is a brand-new machine. The first bit it saw was install from FC2T2 IIRC. From trejalaustin at austin.rr.com Tue May 4 02:46:02 2004 From: trejalaustin at austin.rr.com (trejalaustin) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 21:46:02 -0500 Subject: samba mount command change Message-ID: <1083638762.7556.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> with fedora core 2 test 3 the smb mount command doesn't work it says smbfs is no longer command, does anyone know how to do the samba mount command, the old one was mount -t smbfs filename /windowscomputername/sharename -ousername=??????,password=??????. it worked with fedora core 1 From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Tue May 4 02:49:52 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 22:49:52 -0400 Subject: VMware and Fedora In-Reply-To: <4096B778.80409@redhat.com> References: <4093B52A.5030908@skyhouseconsulting.com> <1083617250.20142.240.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <4096B778.80409@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083638991.2976.21.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 11:19 -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > Running FC2 Test3 and higher in VMWare is broken because VMWare needs to > implement vdso. For now you can use "vdso=0" boot option. It works for > me when running FC2 Test3 within VMWare 4.5.1 hosted on FC2 Test3. On to the next problem... Tried the above configuration using the vmware-any-any-update65.tar.gz from http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/ as recommended in an earlier thread. Host is FC2T3 + rawhide updates through today, kernel-2.6.5-1.327 on Athlon 1Ghz, Abit KT7A-RAID mobo, selinux in permissive mode. VMware starts and seems to work OK with W2K and White Box 3.0. Booted VMware VM from from current FC2 rawhide boot.iso, specified "linux vdso=0" at the boot prompt, and got further through the install process than previously, but after specifying kbd, mouse, networking, and trying a NFS install from the host, the host reboots. Possibly relevant lines in /var/log/messages: May 3 19:23:50 tabb1 rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from tabb5.tabb:615 for /scr/Fedora/development/i386 (/scr) May 3 19:23:50 tabb1 kernel: audit(1083626630.437:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=1853 exe=/usr/sbin/rpc.mountd dev=hdg4 ino=2 scontext=system_u:system_r:nfsd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir May 3 19:23:50 tabb1 kernel: audit(1083626630.487:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1853 exe=/usr/sbin/rpc.mountd path=/scr dev=hdg4 ino=2 scontext=system_u:syste m_r:nfsd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir May 3 19:23:50 tabb1 kernel: audit(1083626630.488:0): avc: denied { search } for pid=1844 comm=nfsd name=development dev=hdg4 ino=61588 scontext=system_u:system_r:k ernel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir May 3 19:23:50 tabb1 kernel: audit(1083626630.488:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1844 comm=nfsd path=/scr/Fedora/development/i386 dev=hdg4 ino=61589 scontext=s ystem_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=dir May 3 19:23:51 tabb1 kernel: audit(1083626631.176:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1844 comm=nfsd name=/ dev=hdg4 ino=2 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcont ext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=filesystem May 3 19:23:51 tabb1 kernel: audit(1083626631.230:0): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1845 comm=nfsd path=/scr/Fedora/development/i386/Fedora/base/stage2.img dev=hd g4 ino=118036 scontext=system_u:system_r:kernel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=file May 3 19:23:51 tabb1 kernel: audit(1083626631.242:0): avc: denied { read } for pid=1844 comm=nfsd name=stage2.img dev=hdg4 ino=118036 scontext=system_u:system_r:ker nel_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t tclass=file May 3 19:26:30 tabb1 syslogd 1.4.1: restart. May 3 19:26:31 tabb1 syslog: syslogd startup succeeded This is a bit worse than VMware crashing without bothering the host OS. :-( Any further suggestions appreciated. Phil From jkeating at j2solutions.net Tue May 4 02:55:34 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 19:55:34 -0700 Subject: samba mount command change In-Reply-To: <1083638762.7556.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083638762.7556.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405031955.38728.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 May 2004 19:46, trejalaustin wrote: > with fedora core 2 test 3 the smb mount command doesn't work it says > smbfs is no longer command, does anyone know how to do the samba > mount command, the old one was mount -t smbfs filename > /windowscomputername/sharename -ousername=??????,password=??????. > > it worked with fedora core 1 Try "cifs" rather than "smbfs". - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAlwYq4v2HLvE71NURAvywAKCO3jFXf4HOFauhDVBw9KLKsJSVpwCfSMil 9RhBw0b9NrHhXhvDZvukTsI= =bPgF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From markf78 at yahoo.com Tue May 4 03:00:09 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 20:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: bug in FC2 test3 libmng package when compiling xine? In-Reply-To: <20040504024611.D7900735F0@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040504030009.15487.qmail@web11412.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- > Works for me: > > checking for mng_initialize in -lmng... yes > checking libmng.h usability... yes > checking libmng.h presence... yes > > [root at mdlinux xine-lib-1-rc4]# rpm -qa | grep mng > libmng-1.0.4-5.1 > libmng-devel-1.0.4-5.1 > > Do you actually have libmng.h in /usr/include ? yes. > What version of xine are you trying? the latest... xine-lib-1-rc4. mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From vR at movingparts.net Tue May 4 03:18:41 2004 From: vR at movingparts.net (Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 23:18:41 -0400 Subject: wireless ethernet problems Message-ID: <1083640721.2525.58.camel@localhost> re, all. I've got a couple of questions regarding the use of wireless cards in the core series.... I'm currently running fc2t2, though 2 of the 3 problems I'm having occur also under core1, fc2t1, and fc2t3 as well. 1) I have a Symbol wireless card, which uses the orinoco_cs driver. But under every fedora release (core1, fc2t{1,2,3}), the definition for this card is missing in /etc/pcmcia/config. I have to hand-patch this in every time, and it looks like this: card "LA4111 Spectrum24 Wireless LAN PC Card" version "Symbol Technologies" bind "orinoco_cs" As far as I can recall, this has always been included in the config file for pcmcia in debian sid, Mandrake 9, 10, and SuSE 9.0. Is fedora using an out of date pcmcia package? Or have the other distros patched this in? The effect of this not being in config, btw, is that the card isn't recognized at all by pcmcia, and no drivers are loaded when the card is inserted. Once I add that line to config, then pcmcia dutifully loads the orinoco_cs drivers properly. Which leads to my second problem.... 2) The GUI network configurator has never worked right for me in fedora (again, core1, fc2t{1,2,3}) in that it doesn't seem to know how to handle WEP enc keys properly. If I enter "0x..." for the WEP key in the GUI, the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/keys-eth1 file has "KEY=s:0x...", which of course doesn't show correctly in iwconfig. After I manually edit the keys-eth1 file to "KEY=FFFFAA..., etc.", it works just fine in core1, fc2t1 and fc2t2. I also have to hand-edit the ifcfg-eth1 script to change channel from 1 to 6 and rate to auto, rather than 11mbps. Here, also, the GUI doesn't allow you to make these changes when I believe it should. So, if I hand-edit those files and make those changes, all works swimmingly in core1, fc2t1,2, which brings me to my third problem.... 3) in core2 test3, I can't for the life of me get my wireless card to DHCP correctly. I've made the above-mentioned changes to the system. pcmcia loads the drivers correctly, iwconfig shows the correct settings for the card, but no dhcp address is gotten. What confuses me even more is that it WAS working!! I installed fc2t3 2 nights ago, and the wireless card was working. I believe I did a 'yum update' last night and today, it's borken. The only thing I see in /var/log/messages that looks semi-relevant is this: May 3 07:00:46 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out May 3 07:00:46 localhost kernel: eth1: Tx timeout! ALLOCFID=0165, TXCOMPLFID=0303, EVSTAT=800b and after that, the only things I see in messages is that dhclient isn't able to get any dhcpoffers. Also, this happens both on the fc2t3 2.6.5 fedora-patched default kernel, as well as on a clean, vanilla 2.6.4 kernel. So, I guess my questions are: - are these things known issues, or should I enter bugzillas for them? - does anyone have any idea on what's going wrong with my wireless card (using WEP) in trying to get a dhcp address in core2 test3? Is anyone successfully using core2 test3 on a laptop, using WEP? TIA!!! -- ,-----------------------------------------------------------------// | Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26 ` | All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker | in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is | the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too. , | bash$ :(){ :|:&};: `----------------------// From marcdeslauriers at videotron.ca Tue May 4 03:30:07 2004 From: marcdeslauriers at videotron.ca (Marc Deslauriers) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 23:30:07 -0400 Subject: Missing Navigation Bars in Evolution 1.4.6 In-Reply-To: <1080845476.1998.2.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> References: <1080845476.1998.2.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> Message-ID: <1083641407.19837.0.camel@mdlinux> On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 13:51, J. Scott Amort wrote: > I've just upgraded to FC2T2, and have noticed that there are no > navigation bars (i.e. up/down bars) in the shortcut window on > Evolution. I have all of my mailing lists as a bunch of shortcuts in > their own group, but now I can only access the first ten or so, as there > is no way to scroll further down the list! Is this a silly error on my I have the same problem with FC2T3. Marc. From kenny.speer at comcast.net Tue May 4 04:12:26 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 21:12:26 -0700 Subject: samba mount command change In-Reply-To: <200405031955.38728.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <1083638762.7556.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405031955.38728.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <4097182A.901@comcast.net> works fine for me: mount -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=bar //some/windoze/share /mnt/garbage you're example does not have a space between -o and username, it's required and I beleive in the order I specified. you may need to recompile your kernel, the smb kern module is tried and true, while the CIFS kern mod is newer and I beleive still in development. ~kenny Jesse Keating wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Monday 03 May 2004 19:46, trejalaustin wrote: > >>with fedora core 2 test 3 the smb mount command doesn't work it says >>smbfs is no longer command, does anyone know how to do the samba >>mount command, the old one was mount -t smbfs filename >>/windowscomputername/sharename -ousername=??????,password=??????. >> >>it worked with fedora core 1 > > > Try "cifs" rather than "smbfs". > > - -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) > GPG Public Key > (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > > Was I helpful? Let others know: > http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAlwYq4v2HLvE71NURAvywAKCO3jFXf4HOFauhDVBw9KLKsJSVpwCfSMil > 9RhBw0b9NrHhXhvDZvukTsI= > =bPgF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From dant at cdkkt.com Tue May 4 04:32:41 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 21:32:41 -0700 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install andGRUBhangs on 2nd install Message-ID: Hi, I did exactly what you said, to: 1) Win98 fdisk /MBR 2) grub-install /dev/hda rebooting resulted: Missing operating system It appears that I am not performing Grub-install correctly or that it is broke? I went back to rescue, and interactive grub: root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) Same result: Missing operating system What is going on? Is grub able to create the proper MBR??? Ok... I have scratched everything again, and installed for the 4th time, from the beginning and tried the whole installation again.... Guess what... a reboot after installation resulted: Missing operating system I tried the grub-install /dev/hda. Same problem. I tried interactive grub: root (hd0,2) <--- note: the partitioning changed to /dev/hda3 setup (hd0) GRUB IS NOT INSTALLING THE MBR!!!!! GRUB IS BROKEN!!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH GRUB!!!! Best regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: Patrick [mailto:fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:41 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install andGRUBhangs on 2nd install On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 06:10, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi all, > > Sigh... the 3rd time is a charm? Unfortunately not. I took all > the defaults. FCT2 does NOT like Linux Systems 501. Sheesh. > I think I am going back to RH/debian unless someone has a brilliant > idea what the jeepers is going on and tell me how to fix this. > > Dan Just a wild thought: get yourself a bootable Dos floppy, boot it and do fdisk /mbr to absolutely destroy any mbr stuff lurking around. Then reinstall grub with grub-install. Good luck, Patrick -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mike at netlyncs.com Tue May 4 04:36:55 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 23:36:55 -0500 Subject: can't view webalizer usage stats In-Reply-To: <1083627967.960.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083627647.1982.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1083627967.960.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083645415.2208.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 18:46, Matias Feliciano wrote: > # cat /etc/httpd/conf.d/webalizer.conf > # > # This configuration file maps the webalizer log analysis > # results (generated daily) into the URL space. By default > # these results are only accessible from the local host. > # > Alias /usage /var/www/usage > > > Order deny,allow > Deny from all <========= > Allow from 127.0.0.1 <========= > Allow from ::1 > # Allow from .example.com > > > Try with http://localhost/usage/ . > Work here. Thanks, didn't know that file existed, but I got mine working now. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From kenny.speer at comcast.net Tue May 4 04:37:00 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 21:37:00 -0700 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st installandGRUBhangs on 2nd install Message-ID: <200405040437.i444b799005719@mx3.redhat.com> Personally, it sounds like the first few sectors of your drive are bad. Hoow old is your spindle? ~kenny (Sent from Tungsten ? C) "Daniel B. Thurman" wrote: __________ >Hi, > >I did exactly what you said, to: >1) Win98 fdisk /MBR >2) grub-install /dev/hda > >rebooting resulted: > >Missing operating system > >It appears that I am not performing Grub-install correctly >or that it is broke? > >I went back to rescue, and interactive grub: >root (hd0,0) >setup (hd0) > >Same result: > >Missing operating system > >What is going on? Is grub able to create the proper MBR??? > >Ok... I have scratched everything again, and installed for >the 4th time, from the beginning and tried the whole >installation again.... > >Guess what... a reboot after installation resulted: > >Missing operating system > >I tried the grub-install /dev/hda. Same problem. >I tried interactive grub: >root (hd0,2) <--- note: the partitioning changed to /dev/hda3 >setup (hd0) > >GRUB IS NOT INSTALLING THE MBR!!!!! GRUB IS BROKEN!!!! >WHAT IS WRONG WITH GRUB!!!! > >Best regards, >Dan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Patrick [mailto:fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl] >Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:41 AM >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install >andGRUBhangs on 2nd install > > >On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 06:10, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Sigh... the 3rd time is a charm? Unfortunately not. I took all >> the defaults. FCT2 does NOT like Linux Systems 501. Sheesh. >> I think I am going back to RH/debian unless someone has a brilliant >> idea what the jeepers is going on and tell me how to fix this. >> >> Dan > >Just a wild thought: get yourself a bootable Dos floppy, boot it and do >fdisk /mbr to absolutely destroy any mbr stuff lurking around. Then >reinstall grub with grub-install. > >Good luck, >Patrick > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From dant at cdkkt.com Tue May 4 05:00:10 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 22:00:10 -0700 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1stinstallandGRUBhangs on 2nd install Message-ID: Hi, If fdisk /MBR clears the boot sector does that mean it works? I will reformat the drive and see if it boots DOS? Will that prove anything? Additionally, I can also try to see if RH9 installs... Dan -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Speer [mailto:kenny.speer at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:37 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases ; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1stinstallandGRUBhangs on 2nd install Personally, it sounds like the first few sectors of your drive are bad. Hoow old is your spindle? ~kenny (Sent from Tungsten ? C) "Daniel B. Thurman" wrote: __________ >Hi, > >I did exactly what you said, to: >1) Win98 fdisk /MBR >2) grub-install /dev/hda > >rebooting resulted: > >Missing operating system > >It appears that I am not performing Grub-install correctly >or that it is broke? > >I went back to rescue, and interactive grub: >root (hd0,0) >setup (hd0) > >Same result: > >Missing operating system > >What is going on? Is grub able to create the proper MBR??? > >Ok... I have scratched everything again, and installed for >the 4th time, from the beginning and tried the whole >installation again.... > >Guess what... a reboot after installation resulted: > >Missing operating system > >I tried the grub-install /dev/hda. Same problem. >I tried interactive grub: >root (hd0,2) <--- note: the partitioning changed to /dev/hda3 >setup (hd0) > >GRUB IS NOT INSTALLING THE MBR!!!!! GRUB IS BROKEN!!!! >WHAT IS WRONG WITH GRUB!!!! > >Best regards, >Dan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Patrick [mailto:fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl] >Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:41 AM >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install >andGRUBhangs on 2nd install > > >On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 06:10, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Sigh... the 3rd time is a charm? Unfortunately not. I took all >> the defaults. FCT2 does NOT like Linux Systems 501. Sheesh. >> I think I am going back to RH/debian unless someone has a brilliant >> idea what the jeepers is going on and tell me how to fix this. >> >> Dan > >Just a wild thought: get yourself a bootable Dos floppy, boot it and do >fdisk /mbr to absolutely destroy any mbr stuff lurking around. Then >reinstall grub with grub-install. > >Good luck, >Patrick > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From trejalaustin at austin.rr.com Tue May 4 05:17:11 2004 From: trejalaustin at austin.rr.com (trejalaustin) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 00:17:11 -0500 Subject: samba mount command change In-Reply-To: <200405031955.38728.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <1083638762.7556.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405031955.38728.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <1083647831.18307.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> thanks that fixed it On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 21:55, Jesse Keating wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Monday 03 May 2004 19:46, trejalaustin wrote: > > with fedora core 2 test 3 the smb mount command doesn't work it says > > smbfs is no longer command, does anyone know how to do the samba > > mount command, the old one was mount -t smbfs filename > > /windowscomputername/sharename -ousername=??????,password=??????. > > > > it worked with fedora core 1 > > Try "cifs" rather than "smbfs". > > - -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) > GPG Public Key > (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > > Was I helpful? Let others know: > http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAlwYq4v2HLvE71NURAvywAKCO3jFXf4HOFauhDVBw9KLKsJSVpwCfSMil > 9RhBw0b9NrHhXhvDZvukTsI= > =bPgF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From dant at cdkkt.com Tue May 4 06:06:24 2004 From: dant at cdkkt.com (Daniel B. Thurman) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 23:06:24 -0700 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on1stinstallandGRUBhangs on 2nd install Message-ID: Hi, I finally figured it out. This case is SOLVED! Thanks to all offering me help! Here is my HDD layout at least in my mind: /dev/hda 15GB IDE /dev/hdb 50GB IDE /dev/sda 9GB 10k rpm /dev/sdb 9GB 10k rpm The problem is, that the BIOS internall set this order: /dev/sda 9GB 10k rpm <== C: or first boot disk /dev/hda 15GB IDE /dev/hdb 50GB IDE /dev/sdb 9GB 10k rpm So, I had to re-arrange the disk order in the BIOS so that /dev/hda is the first disk or C: GO FIGURE!!! Sheesh. BTW: Fedora is AWESOME so far!!! Dan -----Original Message----- From: Daniel B. Thurman Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 10:00 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on1stinstallandGRUBhangs on 2nd install Hi, If fdisk /MBR clears the boot sector does that mean it works? I will reformat the drive and see if it boots DOS? Will that prove anything? Additionally, I can also try to see if RH9 installs... Dan -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Speer [mailto:kenny.speer at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:37 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases ; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1stinstallandGRUBhangs on 2nd install Personally, it sounds like the first few sectors of your drive are bad. Hoow old is your spindle? ~kenny (Sent from Tungsten ? C) "Daniel B. Thurman" wrote: __________ >Hi, > >I did exactly what you said, to: >1) Win98 fdisk /MBR >2) grub-install /dev/hda > >rebooting resulted: > >Missing operating system > >It appears that I am not performing Grub-install correctly >or that it is broke? > >I went back to rescue, and interactive grub: >root (hd0,0) >setup (hd0) > >Same result: > >Missing operating system > >What is going on? Is grub able to create the proper MBR??? > >Ok... I have scratched everything again, and installed for >the 4th time, from the beginning and tried the whole >installation again.... > >Guess what... a reboot after installation resulted: > >Missing operating system > >I tried the grub-install /dev/hda. Same problem. >I tried interactive grub: >root (hd0,2) <--- note: the partitioning changed to /dev/hda3 >setup (hd0) > >GRUB IS NOT INSTALLING THE MBR!!!!! GRUB IS BROKEN!!!! >WHAT IS WRONG WITH GRUB!!!! > >Best regards, >Dan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Patrick [mailto:fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl] >Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:41 AM >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install >andGRUBhangs on 2nd install > > >On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 06:10, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Sigh... the 3rd time is a charm? Unfortunately not. I took all >> the defaults. FCT2 does NOT like Linux Systems 501. Sheesh. >> I think I am going back to RH/debian unless someone has a brilliant >> idea what the jeepers is going on and tell me how to fix this. >> >> Dan > >Just a wild thought: get yourself a bootable Dos floppy, boot it and do >fdisk /mbr to absolutely destroy any mbr stuff lurking around. Then >reinstall grub with grub-install. > >Good luck, >Patrick > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From gillb4 at telusplanet.net Tue May 4 06:11:46 2004 From: gillb4 at telusplanet.net (Bob Gill) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 00:11:46 -0600 Subject: ATI drivers (was Re: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2) In-Reply-To: <20040503192434.GA10919@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> <200405031023.05780.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <20040503192434.GA10919@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083651106.4947.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> I can also confirm that the Nvidia 5596 drivers work well with Ti4200 cards on FC2-test3 and (unrelated) ReiserFS on the boot partition, using kernel 2.6.6-rc3-bk5. I did get bit with 1. Make sure when you build the kernel that ReiserFS in included in the kernel (not just a module), and ext2/ext3 can be a module, and 2. the new config file for X windows is xorg.conf (I just copied the Nvidia XF86Config file to xorg.conf after backing it up, works without problems). X.org seems faster than XFree86. I did cough up a bug though (and reported back to X.org). Firewire runs as nicely as FC1 (but again I'm running my own custom kernel). On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 13:24, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:23:05AM -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > > Just on side note. Its great to see cross disciplinary techies using Linux. > > Maybe you can use some Mind Control techniques on ATI to release better > > drivers? > > ATI seem to respond well to politeness, understanding, willingness to help > them get things done, and a certain amount of persistance and banging on > the door 8) > From saphipps at mchsi.com Tue May 4 06:20:25 2004 From: saphipps at mchsi.com (Scott A Phipps) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 01:20:25 -0500 Subject: Screen saver / tuxracer crashes In-Reply-To: <1083557613.20639.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083451226.2603.7.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <20040502125543.GD10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083512178.2131.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083518199.20639.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040502175444.GA1995@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083523712.10843.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083557613.20639.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083651625.24842.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> I pulled the drive out of my computer and put it in another computer with an ATI 7500 AIW, and it work fine. I played several games of chromium and tuxracer with no lockups. Looking through the X logs as generated on both boxes, I noticed that box that locks up shows errors that do not appear when in the other machine. Here is the relevant section: (II) RADEON(0): Wrote: rd=12, fd=116, pd=2 drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999) drmOpenDevice: Open failed drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999) drmOpenDevice: Open failed [drm] failed to load kernel module "agpgart" drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK) drmGetBusid returned '' (II) RADEON(0): [drm] loaded kernel module for "radeon" driver From jbinpg at shaw.ca Tue May 4 06:26:13 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 23:26:13 -0700 Subject: default services In-Reply-To: <1083348782.2346.20.camel@Aristotle> References: <1083348782.2346.20.camel@Aristotle> Message-ID: <20040504062613.GC9014@shaw.ca> On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 02:13:03PM -0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > (Sorry if this had been discussed before - I am new to the list) > > Why FC2 t3 activates so many services by default? I had to manually > deactivate the following: > > - irqbalance - why the hell it was even installed on a uniprocessor > machine? > > - rawdevices - how many people need this? And those who do, probably > know enough to enable them > > - portmap/netfs/nfs/nfslock - well, I understand that they are > necessary in LAN environment, but could we add a question to installer > or firstboot so that home users do not get this bunch? > > - rpcgssd/rpcsvcgssd - I do not fully understand what these are, but I > definitely do not need them. How many people do? <<<>>> Beating a Dead Horse. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From tim+redhat.com at coote.org Tue May 4 07:33:10 2004 From: tim+redhat.com at coote.org (tim+redhat.com at coote.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 08:33:10 +0100 Subject: centrino wifi support Message-ID: <20040504073310.GA24627@fw.coote.org> >That might explain why I can't get ndiswrapper to work at all. What is the >incompatibility and what needs to be done to fix it? Looks like I'll need to >reinstall core 1. >Brian last point on the ndiswrapper faq is to disable 4kstacks. Although there's a response in this thread that the linuxant driver works with centrino wifi, I got a response in the ndiswrapper forum that it can't be done for this driver. Clearly one of the data points is wrong. tc From tim+redhat.com at coote.org Tue May 4 07:41:29 2004 From: tim+redhat.com at coote.org (tim+redhat.com at coote.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 08:41:29 +0100 Subject: [fedora-test] centrino wifi support In-Reply-To: <20040503203119.GO11433@nemesis.maddog.net> References: <20040502175419.GA22322@fw.coote.org> <20040503203119.GO11433@nemesis.maddog.net> Message-ID: <20040504074129.GA24659@fw.coote.org> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 04:31:19PM -0400, Philip Balister wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 06:54:19PM +0100, tim+redhat.com at coote.org wrote: > > > > I don't know whether this problem with 4k stacks is to do with the ndiswrapper itself, or the windows drivers that it's encapsulating. > > I had the same problem. The ndiswrapper guys told me that the windows driver > does strange memory allocations that fail under 4K stacks. I swtched to > the open source driver. > > Philip As soon as they get ad-hoc working, I'll follow suit. I got the same response that it's an issue with the windows driver, but there's an earlier response to my original posting that it works under Linuxant. tc From alan at redhat.com Tue May 4 07:57:21 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 03:57:21 -0400 Subject: samba mount command change In-Reply-To: <1083638762.7556.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083638762.7556.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040504075721.GB12239@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:46:02PM -0500, trejalaustin wrote: > with fedora core 2 test 3 the smb mount command doesn't work it says > smbfs is no longer command, does anyone know how to do the samba mount > command, the old one was mount -t smbfs filename > /windowscomputername/sharename -ousername=??????,password=??????. FC2 (and 2.6 in general) has a newer more advanced windows/cifs file sharing module - try mount -t cifs .. From alan at redhat.com Tue May 4 07:59:57 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 03:59:57 -0400 Subject: wireless ethernet problems In-Reply-To: <1083640721.2525.58.camel@localhost> References: <1083640721.2525.58.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20040504075957.GC12239@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 11:18:41PM -0400, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: > 1) I have a Symbol wireless card, which uses the orinoco_cs driver. But > under every fedora release (core1, fc2t{1,2,3}), the definition for this > card is missing in /etc/pcmcia/config. I have to hand-patch this in > every time, and it looks like this: > > card "LA4111 Spectrum24 Wireless LAN PC Card" > version "Symbol Technologies" > bind "orinoco_cs" Please add this to bugzilla. I don't myself know if our tables are obsolete or everyone else added it but its clearly a bug somewhere. > 3) in core2 test3, I can't for the life of me get my wireless card to > DHCP correctly. I've made the above-mentioned changes to the system. > pcmcia loads the drivers correctly, iwconfig shows the correct settings Do other pcmcia cards work ? > is that it WAS working!! I installed fc2t3 2 nights ago, and the > wireless card was working. I believe I did a 'yum update' last night > and today, it's borken. Try booting the old kernel v new kernel. If it makes a difference try with acpi=off. From nphilipp at redhat.com Tue May 4 08:15:41 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 10:15:41 +0200 Subject: ATI drivers (was Re: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2) In-Reply-To: <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> Message-ID: <1083658540.13360.3.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:54, Jonathan Baron wrote: > On 05/03/04 09:10, Andy Green wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >o ATI I don't know about, it certainly supports ATI notebook video to the > >extent of 2D and XV (accellerated movie playback) though. > >- -- > > Not quite. The new Dell Inspiron 9100 has a "WSXGA+" ATI video > card, which is designed to work with the 1680x1050 display. (I > guess the "W" is for "wide." It is very wide.) The current > driver that comes with Fedora Core 2 test 3 will do only > 1400x1050. The result is that everything is s t r e t c h e d > out. (I admit that I didn't notice it right away. I though I > was just having trouble finding nice fonts.) Totally different video hw (nvidia on a latitude d800), but it might be that this is only due to missing modelines for wide video modes, i.e. I had to put this into /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get my 1680x1050 mode to work: [...] Section "Modes" Identifier "16:10" # 1280x800 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 62.62 kHz; pclk: 107.21 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 107.21 1280 1360 1496 1712 800 801 804 835 # 1280x800 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 71.40 kHz; pclk: 123.38 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 123.38 1280 1368 1504 1728 800 801 804 840 # 1280x800 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 84.80 kHz; pclk: 147.89 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 147.89 1280 1376 1512 1744 800 801 804 848 # 1680x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 147.14 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 # 1680x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 188.07 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 188.07 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1096 # 1680x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 214.51 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 214.51 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1103 # 1680x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 256.20 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 256.20 1680 1808 1992 2304 1050 1051 1054 1112 # 1920x1200 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.97 kHz; pclk: 246.59 MHz Modeline "1920x1200" 246.59 1920 2064 2272 2624 1200 1201 1204 1253 # 1920x1200 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 107.10 kHz; pclk: 282.74 MHz Modeline "1920x1200" 282.74 1920 2072 2280 2640 1200 1201 1204 1260 # 1920x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 337.58 MHz Modeline "1920x1200" 337.58 1920 2072 2288 2656 1200 1201 1204 1271 EndSection [...] Section "Monitor" [...] UseModes "16:10" EndSection [...] HTH, Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 From fedora-test at cemery.org.uk Tue May 4 09:13:53 2004 From: fedora-test at cemery.org.uk (Craig Emery) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 10:13:53 +0100 Subject: system-config-network-tui help? Message-ID: <40975ED1.4060605@cemery.org.uk> Where can I get help on the console version of system-config-network? It always chooses eth0 to change (after choosing Ethernet). I'd like to see the settings for eth1. TIA Craig. From fedora-test at cemery.org.uk Tue May 4 09:17:05 2004 From: fedora-test at cemery.org.uk (Craig Emery) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 10:17:05 +0100 Subject: DHCP and the firewall Message-ID: <40975F91.4090206@cemery.org.uk> Are there any issues with using DHCP and the firewall? Do I have to allow traffic of a certain kind in? Do I have to make this change using system-config-security? I've got the firewall enabled, but when I try and raise the appropriate interface, I get a timeout. I'm just wondering if the DHCP reply is being filtered. On a side: Is there a log that'll let me know that the packets were being dropped? Where are the docs on how the firewall is configured? TIA Craig. From alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it Tue May 4 11:24:57 2004 From: alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it (Alessandro Torrisi) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 13:24:57 +0200 Subject: Problems with ATI RADEON 9000 Pro Mobility on my notebook Message-ID: <20040504115601.D1A66B4A4@mail.euronenet.it> My hardware: Notebook AMD64 3000+ Mhz ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mobility 512 MB DDR RAM I configure X (xorg) with VESA driver and everything is OK, but very slow. When I try to configure it with RADEON driver I can see output only on the second output !!! If I send a CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to terminate X I cannot see anything on the LDC and on the second monitor, the only thing I can do is "WRITE reboot WITHOUT SEE WHAT I'M WRITING!!!" Why ??? Please help me with my configuration !!! Alessandro Torrisi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Tue May 4 11:44:55 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 07:44:55 -0400 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 22:14 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > > Hopefully, both issues will be ironed out by Fedora Core 2 release > final. Glad the scanner is working for you now. > > Jim A new version of sane just came out with "Added scripts for USB hotplugging". Hopefully there's time to get it in. http://www.sane-project.org/ From spam at tachegroup.com Tue May 4 11:44:21 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 07:44:21 -0400 Subject: DVD, XP and a 2 GB limit In-Reply-To: <1083581454.4622.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: IE might be the problem, but then I would not understand as to why I could not FTP the file in the first place. I will try the other tools that you suggested. As for the XP usage, alas it is my game machine, and the machine that has one with a RW DVD drive. In fact, my Linux box does not have a DVD, CDROM, or a floppy at all, and 99.44% of the time, one is not needed. on 5/03/2004 6:47 AM, David Collantes at david at bus.ucf.edu wrote: > On 5/2/2004 9:05 PM, Kenny Speer wrote: > >> Why in the world would you force yourself to use XP? And, XP will not >> display a file larger than 2GB in Explorer. It's a known issue >> therefore FTP fails. Try using CIFS/SMB if you absolutely must use that >> inferior OS. > > XP has no problem displaying 4,292,982 KB on my Windows machine. I believe, on > this, IE is the culprit not the OS (which is not really that inferior, but > that's topic for a different thread). > > Cheers, From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 4 11:49:03 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 07:49:03 -0400 Subject: kernel 349 avail from updates, but 327 in rawhide Message-ID: I'm getting 2.6.5-1.349.i686 via yum for my athlon, from updates, but on my x86_64, which has to get updates from rawhide (development), the latest kernel is 327. From david at bus.ucf.edu Tue May 4 11:50:37 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 07:50:37 -0400 Subject: DVD, XP and a 2 GB limit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083671653.3448.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/4/2004 7:44 AM, TGS wrote: > IE might be the problem, but then I would not understand as to why I could > not FTP the file in the first place. I will try the other tools that you > suggested. Actually, if you use Windows XP provided ftp client (ftp.exe), it will transfer it without problems. If you are using a FAT partition on your XP, then you might not be able to see files bigger than 2GB. I have never used FAT, I always go for NTFS. > As for the XP usage, alas it is my game machine, and the machine that has > one with a RW DVD drive. In fact, my Linux box does not have a DVD, CDROM, > or a floppy at all, and 99.44% of the time, one is not needed. There is no shame on using Windows, no need to justify! :-) Cheers, -- David Collantes - College of Business Administration, UCF - (407)823-3418 Always remember: you are unique, just like everyone else. From linux at bytebot.net Tue May 4 11:59:28 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 21:59:28 +1000 Subject: FC2T2 - epiphany install In-Reply-To: <1083001767.1838.22.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> References: <1083001767.1838.22.camel@cei3440.empower.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <1083671968.6874.253.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 03:49, Will Backman wrote: > epiphany was not installed with FC2T2 Desktop install, so I installed it > today using up2date epiphany. epiphany-1.1.12-0 > It was not added to my red hat menu, at least not anywhere obvious. Have you looked for "Web Browser" - Fedora -> Internet -> More Internet Applications ? -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ From stefan at biblio-tech.net Tue May 4 12:04:30 2004 From: stefan at biblio-tech.net (Stefan Thierl) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 13:04:30 +0100 Subject: ntfs support In-Reply-To: <4094C8D6.6090007@gmx.de> References: <1083139465.2188.29.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083150256.6649.1.camel@tarkus> <1083151773.3847.25.camel@devel.mpeters.us> <1083155379.27002.23.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1083206415.24362.2.camel@orpheus.pcorp.com.au> <1083490785.2475.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083492049.2603.11.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <4094C8D6.6090007@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1083672269.532.1.camel@oiktest> have you got any tips for people who don't want to wait til then to access their ntfs partitions, and want to compile the ntfs module for their standard redhat kernel? i had a go at it but building the modules from the source resulted in a new /lib/modules folder for my 'custom kernel' which of course i hadn't built. On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 11:09, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > shmuel siegel wrote: > > >On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 12:39, Sindre Pedersen Bjordal wrote: > > > > > >>I have always used the modules from http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/, > >>is there anything in Core 2 that will prevent the use such packages? > >> > >> > >I doubt that you will be getting these modules until Core 2 is released. > >The site is for end users, not testers and not developers. > > > > > > http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/index.html > > I shall release RPMs for Fedora 2, when they make their official release > (which should be pretty soon). > > > > -- > shrek-m -- Stefan Thierl Systems Administrator Hoxton Bibliotech 239 Old Street London EC1V 9EY -- T: 020 7553 4476 F: 020 7251 3130 W: http://techteam.biblio-tech.net "We accelerate the creation, growth and success of companies and improve the career opportunities of individuals." From essam_mohsin at hotmail.com Tue May 4 12:29:40 2004 From: essam_mohsin at hotmail.com (Essam Mohsin) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 15:29:40 +0300 Subject: Ethereal Crash Message-ID: Hi : I run Fedora Core2 Test3 on a PC " Intel PIV 1.GHz , 512 MB RAM , IDE HDD 10GB , nVidia Riva TNT2 VGA , 3Com 3C905 Network Card " . when I try to run Ethereal 0.10.3 and tick on the "Enable network name resolution" on the "Capture Options" , it will run for few seconds then it will stop scrolling the view of packets , then part of the display is blanked to white color , when I try to close it from the cross at the top of the screen it will take 5 minutes with no response then an error message will popup telling that " Window with the title " The Ethereal Network Analyzer" is not responding this window belong to the application ethereal (PID=xxxx , hostname=localhost) . Do you wish to terminate the app ...... " Please note that I use my ISP DNS server IP to resolve the addresses of internet hosts , and I don't have local DNS server on my network . And Ethereal works fine when this option is not selected . Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marshall at novafoundry.com Tue May 4 12:30:19 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:30:19 -0400 Subject: kernel 349 avail from updates, but 327 in rawhide In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083673819.2077.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> There have been problems with kernel builds later than 327 on x86_64 (at least for me).. and actually 327 breaks for me too, but in a different way (on my home workstation, works fine at work). That could be why the later kernels aren't in development..... or they could just be running behind : ) On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 07:49, Neal D. Becker wrote: > I'm getting 2.6.5-1.349.i686 via yum for my athlon, from updates, but on my > x86_64, which has to get updates from rawhide (development), the latest > kernel is 327. > > From pknirsch at redhat.com Tue May 4 12:41:26 2004 From: pknirsch at redhat.com (Phil Knirsch) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 14:41:26 +0200 Subject: Ethereal Crash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40978F76.9000609@redhat.com> Essam Mohsin wrote: > Hi : > > I run Fedora Core2 Test3 on a PC " Intel PIV 1.GHz , 512 MB RAM , IDE > HDD 10GB , nVidia Riva TNT2 VGA , 3Com 3C905 Network Card " . when I try > to run Ethereal 0.10.3 and tick on the "Enable network name resolution" > on the "Capture Options" , it will run for few seconds then it will stop > scrolling the view of packets , then part of the display is blanked to > white color , when I try to close it from the cross at the top of the > screen it will take 5 minutes with no response then an error message > will popup telling that " Window with the title " The Ethereal Network > Analyzer" is not responding this window belong to the application > ethereal (PID=xxxx , hostname=localhost) . Do you wish to terminate the > app ...... " > > Please note that I use my ISP DNS server IP to resolve the addresses of > internet hosts , and I don't have local DNS server on my network . And > Ethereal works fine when this option is not selected > Well, the problem is simple: The DNS lookups just take way too long for ethereal if there are tons of packages going in and out. I've done the same test here on my box on our LAN and with that option enabled it took about 1 minute on my PIV 3GHz dual machine with both CPUs at top load to get all the info sorted. So on a smaller box i can easily take quite some time. My simple advice: Don't turn that option on. It's similar to apache and the DNS resolution (which is a big nono in any sane apache setup that gets more than a few hundred hits a day). Read ya, Phil -- Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-470 Development | Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH | Email: Phil Knirsch Hauptstaetterstr. 58 | Web: http://www.redhat.de/ D-70178 Stuttgart Motd: You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me. From alex.kiernan at thus.net Tue May 4 12:47:58 2004 From: alex.kiernan at thus.net (Alex Kiernan) Date: 04 May 2004 13:47:58 +0100 Subject: kernel-2.6.5-1.332 In-Reply-To: <1083161793.31700.58.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <72n056so3n.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082473862.5832.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72isfusmoe.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082475093.5832.3.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72hdveeir4.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082477794.10690.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72d662ef7a.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1083161793.31700.58.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <72hduwwe81.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> Dave Jones writes: > On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 15:13, Alex Kiernan wrote: > > > > > > > Worse case you could always take a picture of it if you've a digital > > > > > > camera handy. I don't usually encourage this, but it's better than > > > > > > nothing as a last resort. > > > > > Thats bad :) > > > > > I'll get a serial console on it - its local, I just need to find the > > > > > right cables for my laptop. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the effort. > > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121350 > > > > > > > Just tried the current bk tree - it boots/runs fine, so whatever the > > problem was looks like its fixed upstream or its some problem the > > Fedora patches introduce. > > Hmm, more head scratching. We're going to do one final rebase to 2.6.6 > when that's out later this week, and that's what we're rolling with for > FC2 GA, (Additional patches from upstream will be cherry-picked). > > Will be interesting to see if the next kernel that we push out fixes > it for you too. If it doesn't, then it is something we added which is > bogus. > 2.6.5-1.349 is working fine, so whatever it was it looks like its fixed. -- Alex Kiernan, Principal Engineer, Development, THUS plc From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Tue May 4 12:53:20 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:53:20 -0400 Subject: DHCP and the firewall In-Reply-To: <40975F91.4090206@cemery.org.uk> References: <40975F91.4090206@cemery.org.uk> Message-ID: <40979240.6090708@rogers.com> Craig Emery wrote: > Are there any issues with using DHCP and the firewall? > Do I have to allow traffic of a certain kind in? > Do I have to make this change using system-config-security? > > I've got the firewall enabled, but when I try and raise the > appropriate interface, I get a timeout. I'm just wondering if the DHCP > reply is being filtered. > > On a side: Is there a log that'll let me know that the packets were > being dropped? > Where are the docs on how the firewall is configured? > > TIA > > Craig. > > I have the problem where I can not disable the firewall. Port 80 traffic will not pass through. No apache.... Try "setup" at the shell prompt. This is the shell version. Select firewall. From kirillov at math.sunysb.edu Tue May 4 13:11:51 2004 From: kirillov at math.sunysb.edu (Alexander Kirillov) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 09:11:51 -0400 Subject: acpi scripts Message-ID: <1083676311.2455.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Can anyone point me to a working set of acpi scripts that would enable suspend-to-RAM and other useful things (dimming the screen when switvching to battery power, etc) for a Dell Laptop (Latitude D600) on FC2 T3? I found several scripts on the net, but they mostly are for patched 2.4 kernel, and do not work for me. Also: why don't we include some decent set of such scripts by default? I know that ACPI can be tricky, and varies from one laptop to another - but some things work rather reliably (such as blanking screen on lid close), and others (suspend) could be included commented out. Sasha at least, we could include some commented out scripts From antti.aspinen at phnet.fi Tue May 4 13:33:15 2004 From: antti.aspinen at phnet.fi (Antti Aspinen) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 16:33:15 +0300 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 Message-ID: <1083677594.32271.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thank you all for answers. Those really helped me at lot. I got my nVidia GeForce2 GTS working on my linuxbox at 3d-accelerated. And I am sure that my friend will got his ATi Radeon 9800XT working too. -Antti- From twaugh at redhat.com Tue May 4 13:35:57 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 14:35:57 +0100 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> Message-ID: <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 07:44:55AM -0400, Sandy Pond wrote: > A new version of sane just came out with "Added scripts for USB > hotplugging". Hopefully there's time to get it in. > > http://www.sane-project.org/ There isn't, but please try the 1.0.13-6 package here: ftp://people.redhat.com/twaugh/tmp/sane-backends/ The USB hotplug data is included, as well as a script. This script operates in exactly the same way as the one for USB cameras -- i.e. the current console user gets ownership of the device *when it is plugged in*. Better suggestions welcome. It would be nice if the pam_console stuff interacted more nicely with hotplug scripts that depend on 'current console user', but I don't see a nice way of doing that. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From spam at tachegroup.com Tue May 4 13:46:06 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 09:46:06 -0400 Subject: DVD, XP and a 2 GB limit In-Reply-To: <1083671653.3448.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: on 5/04/2004 7:50 AM, David Collantes at david at bus.ucf.edu wrote: > On 5/4/2004 7:44 AM, TGS wrote: >> IE might be the problem, but then I would not understand as to why I could >> not FTP the file in the first place. I will try the other tools that you >> suggested. > > Actually, if you use Windows XP provided ftp client (ftp.exe), it will > transfer it without problems. If you are using a FAT partition on your XP, > then you might not be able to see files bigger than 2GB. I have never used > FAT, I always go for NTFS. > I tried that, but it did not work, and the drive is NTFS. That is why I was puzzled. So ... I installed samba server, and now I am burning via the mounted share. >> As for the XP usage, alas it is my game machine, and the machine that has >> one with a RW DVD drive. In fact, my Linux box does not have a DVD, CDROM, >> or a floppy at all, and 99.44% of the time, one is not needed. > > There is no shame on using Windows, no need to justify! :-) Ha ha, I knew that there would be someone that would provide the required grief about XP usage. > > Cheers, From davej at redhat.com Tue May 4 14:25:01 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 15:25:01 +0100 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083570294.29548.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1083680700.20143.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 17:03, Benjamin FrantzDale wrote: > Thanks, I'll give that a try. > > I was asking because it seems like USB CF readers are the sort of thing > that should Just Work (or at least should just require adding a line > to /etc/fstab). So is there any reason this number isn't set higher by > default? I've added a half dozen or so to the whitelist in the last month or two. Send me your dmesg output, and I'll add it to the list. Dave From baron at psych.upenn.edu Tue May 4 14:25:50 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 10:25:50 -0400 Subject: ATI drivers (was Re: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2) In-Reply-To: <1083658540.13360.3.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> <1083658540.13360.3.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> Message-ID: <20040504142550.GA4786@psych> Note to ATI Support: This is about TicketGUID:{A4CADA20-F384-4AB9-B32E-F8BCF5B3AEFC} Thank you, Nils. Your solution works. (See below.) I also discovered something else, possibly of interest to ATI. There seem to be two drivers. One comes with Fedora and is called "radeon". This is what I'm using. The other set is called "fglrx" and is what I downloaded from the ATI web site. It does not work. The reason it doesn't work is that it does not install properly. The RPM makes a directory /lib/modules/fglrx/ alongside the kernel modules, e.g., /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.327smp/ (the one I'm using). In that directory is a subdirectory build_mod with a make file. The make failed. The log contains the following error message: Error: XFree86 drm includes at /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.327smp/build/include/../drivers/char/drm do not fit this driver. This driver is designed to only work with X4.1.0 or higher. You can match this by getting Linux kernel 2.4.8 or higher. Now the make file itself contains an option uname_overload which can apparently be set to 1 and thus avoid checking the kernel version. I was going to try this if the first solution failed. It looks to me like the fglrx driver allows more fancy stuff, but what I've got is just fine for now. Jon On 05/04/04 10:15, Nils Philippsen wrote: >On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:54, Jonathan Baron wrote: >> On 05/03/04 09:10, Andy Green wrote: >> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >o ATI I don't know about, it certainly supports ATI notebook video to the >> >extent of 2D and XV (accellerated movie playback) though. >> >- -- >> >> Not quite. The new Dell Inspiron 9100 has a "WSXGA+" ATI video >> card, which is designed to work with the 1680x1050 display. (I >> guess the "W" is for "wide." It is very wide.) The current >> driver that comes with Fedora Core 2 test 3 will do only >> 1400x1050. The result is that everything is s t r e t c h e d >> out. (I admit that I didn't notice it right away. I though I >> was just having trouble finding nice fonts.) > >Totally different video hw (nvidia on a latitude d800), but it might be >that this is only due to missing modelines for wide video modes, i.e. I >had to put this into /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get my 1680x1050 mode to >work: > >[...] >Section "Modes" > Identifier "16:10" > # 1280x800 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 62.62 kHz; pclk: 107.21 MHz > Modeline "1280x800" 107.21 1280 1360 1496 1712 800 801 804 835 > # 1280x800 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 71.40 kHz; pclk: 123.38 MHz > Modeline "1280x800" 123.38 1280 1368 1504 1728 800 801 804 840 > # 1280x800 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 84.80 kHz; pclk: 147.89 MHz > Modeline "1280x800" 147.89 1280 1376 1512 1744 800 801 804 848 > # 1680x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 147.14 MHz > Modeline "1680x1050" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 > # 1680x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 188.07 MHz > Modeline "1680x1050" 188.07 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1096 > # 1680x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 214.51 MHz > Modeline "1680x1050" 214.51 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1103 > # 1680x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 256.20 MHz > Modeline "1680x1050" 256.20 1680 1808 1992 2304 1050 1051 1054 1112 > # 1920x1200 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.97 kHz; pclk: 246.59 MHz > Modeline "1920x1200" 246.59 1920 2064 2272 2624 1200 1201 1204 1253 > # 1920x1200 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 107.10 kHz; pclk: 282.74 MHz > Modeline "1920x1200" 282.74 1920 2072 2280 2640 1200 1201 1204 1260 > # 1920x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 337.58 MHz > Modeline "1920x1200" 337.58 1920 2072 2288 2656 1200 1201 1204 1271 >EndSection >[...] >Section "Monitor" >[...] > UseModes "16:10" >EndSection >[...] > >HTH, >Nils >-- > Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com >"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 > PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue May 4 14:31:24 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 16:31:24 +0200 Subject: yum config and apt config for FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <4096CEAE.4000001@rogers.com> References: <4096CEAE.4000001@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040504163124.1833bdbe.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Mon, 03 May 2004 18:58:54 -0400, Dwaine Garden wrote: > I have installed FC2T2 and have upgraded by yum to something which seems > like FC2T3. But I was using synaptic to upgrade some rpm's. > > So the box is a mismatch with rpm's. I have read the distrubution list > and I can not figure out what are the real > repositories for FC2T3 with both apt and yum. Your favourite mirror of Fedora Core 1.92 (or Fedora Development) should be yum-enabled, since the master server is yum-enabled. http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html From eric.beyer at lnxfrk.net Tue May 4 14:44:44 2004 From: eric.beyer at lnxfrk.net (Eric Beyer) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 09:44:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: ntfs support In-Reply-To: <1083672269.532.1.camel@oiktest> References: <1083139465.2188.29.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu><1083150256.6649.1.camel@tarkus><1083151773.3847.25.camel@devel.mpeters.us><1083155379.27002.23.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov><1083206415.24362.2.camel@orpheus.pcorp.com.au><1083490785.2475.4.camel@localhost.localdomain><1083492049.2603.11.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <4094C8D6.6090007@gmx.de> <1083672269.532.1.camel@oiktest> Message-ID: <54471.64.238.64.1.1083681884.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> Stefan Thierl said: > have you got any tips for people who don't want to wait til then to > access their ntfs partitions, and want to compile the ntfs module for > their standard redhat kernel? i had a go at it but building the modules > from the source resulted in a new /lib/modules folder for my 'custom > kernel' which of course i hadn't built. > Assuming you have the kernel source that matches version of kernel you are running all you have to do is edit the toplevel Makefile /usr/src/linux-xx/Makefile and remove the 'custom' from EXTRAVERSION = ... For example: VERSION = 2 PATCHLEVEL = 4 SUBLEVEL = 18 EXTRAVERSION = -5custom If running 2.4.18-5 then just take the custom portion off of EXTRAVERSION. I have the steps to create the module w/o compiling the entire kernel somewhere if need that let me know. Thanks, Eric From kenny.speer at comcast.net Tue May 4 14:43:54 2004 From: kenny.speer at comcast.net (Kenny Speer) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 07:43:54 -0700 Subject: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1stinstallandGRUBhangs on 2nd install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4097AC2A.9040307@comcast.net> I'm afraid not. Hard drives have a feature called "bad-block-remapping", if sectors go bad they are remapped internally on the drive to spare blocks used for this purpose. I don't know enough about the DOS MBR and grub to tell you if those sectors are bad that one or the other will or won't work. It's a suggestion to try another drive just to isolate the issue. Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Hi, > > If fdisk /MBR clears the boot sector does that mean it works? I will > reformat the drive and see if it boots DOS? Will that prove anything? > > Additionally, I can also try to see if RH9 installs... > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenny Speer [mailto:kenny.speer at comcast.net] > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:37 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases ; For testers of > Fedora Core development releases > Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on > 1stinstallandGRUBhangs on 2nd install > > > Personally, it sounds like the first few sectors of your drive are bad. > Hoow old is your spindle? > > ~kenny > > (Sent from Tungsten ? C) > > "Daniel B. Thurman" wrote: > __________ > >>Hi, >> >>I did exactly what you said, to: >>1) Win98 fdisk /MBR >>2) grub-install /dev/hda >> >>rebooting resulted: >> >>Missing operating system >> >>It appears that I am not performing Grub-install correctly >>or that it is broke? >> >>I went back to rescue, and interactive grub: >>root (hd0,0) >>setup (hd0) >> >>Same result: >> >>Missing operating system >> >>What is going on? Is grub able to create the proper MBR??? >> >>Ok... I have scratched everything again, and installed for >>the 4th time, from the beginning and tried the whole >>installation again.... >> >>Guess what... a reboot after installation resulted: >> >>Missing operating system >> >>I tried the grub-install /dev/hda. Same problem. >>I tried interactive grub: >>root (hd0,2) <--- note: the partitioning changed to /dev/hda3 >>setup (hd0) >> >>GRUB IS NOT INSTALLING THE MBR!!!!! GRUB IS BROKEN!!!! >>WHAT IS WRONG WITH GRUB!!!! >> >>Best regards, >>Dan >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Patrick [mailto:fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl] >>Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:41 AM >>To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >>Subject: RE: Installation of FCT2: GRUB interactive on 1st install >>andGRUBhangs on 2nd install >> >> >>On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 06:10, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>Sigh... the 3rd time is a charm? Unfortunately not. I took all >>>the defaults. FCT2 does NOT like Linux Systems 501. Sheesh. >>>I think I am going back to RH/debian unless someone has a brilliant >>>idea what the jeepers is going on and tell me how to fix this. >>> >>>Dan >> >>Just a wild thought: get yourself a bootable Dos floppy, boot it and do >>fdisk /mbr to absolutely destroy any mbr stuff lurking around. Then >>reinstall grub with grub-install. >> >>Good luck, >>Patrick >> >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > From chris at menzel.com Tue May 4 14:48:23 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 16:48:23 +0200 Subject: ATI drivers (was Re: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2) In-Reply-To: <20040504142550.GA4786@psych> References: <1083563708.6772.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405030910.12964.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040503105422.GA17843@psych> <1083658540.13360.3.camel@wombat.tiptoe.de> <20040504142550.GA4786@psych> Message-ID: <1083682103.3476.35.camel@stage.menzel.com> On Di, 2004-05-04 at 16:25, Jonathan Baron wrote: Hi Jonathan, > The other set is called "fglrx" and is what I downloaded from the > ATI web site. It does not work. The reason it doesn't work is > that it does not install properly. The RPM makes a directory > /lib/modules/fglrx/ > alongside the kernel modules, e.g., > /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.327smp/ (the one I'm using). > In that directory is a subdirectory build_mod with a make file. under the build_mod directory is another directory (2.6.x) located. In this directory you find the make script for 2.6 kernels, but the resulting driver will not work with Fedora kernels. -- Christian Menzel From zachw at termdex.com Tue May 4 14:52:26 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 10:52:26 -0400 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 Message-ID: <004401c431e7$6bbb7430$6601a8c0@termdex.local> I just yum updated to kernel-2.6.5-1.349 and when I boot now I get SELinux initializing messages and lots of denied messages. However, my grub.conf still shows selinux=0 that I've had in there for a while now. Is that no longer an acceptable option? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 2765 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Tue May 4 15:07:23 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:07:23 -0400 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: <004401c431e7$6bbb7430$6601a8c0@termdex.local> References: <004401c431e7$6bbb7430$6601a8c0@termdex.local> Message-ID: <1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 10:52, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > I just yum updated to kernel-2.6.5-1.349 and when I boot now I get > SELinux initializing messages and lots of denied messages. > However, my grub.conf still shows selinux=0 that I've had in there for > a while now. > Is that no longer an acceptable option? Interesting - the CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM option is not set in the kernel configuration in the corresponding kernel SRPM, so the selinux=0 support is disabled. Try setting SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux. With the latest SysVinit and kernel, that will use the new SELinux runtime disable support to truly disable SELinux, as opposed to the older behavior where it left SELinux in permissive/no-policy mode. However, I would think that they would retain the selinux=0 option as well, if only to avoid breaking people who were using it previously. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From jmorris at redhat.com Tue May 4 15:11:26 2004 From: jmorris at redhat.com (James Morris) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: <1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 May 2004, Stephen Smalley wrote: > Interesting - the CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM option is not set in > the kernel configuration in the corresponding kernel SRPM, so the > selinux=0 support is disabled. I don't know why this is disabled now. Arjan? - James -- James Morris From bfrantzdale at hmc.edu Tue May 4 15:13:51 2004 From: bfrantzdale at hmc.edu (Benjamin FrantzDale) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:13:51 -0700 Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1083677594.32271.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083677594.32271.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083683632.5883.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> For reference, I just (finally) got my Radeon 9600 working after following these instructions: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33737573 It had been giving me a bad address error when I tried to load fglrx.ko. --Ben On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 16:33 +0300, Antti Aspinen wrote: > Thank you all for answers. Those really helped me at lot. > I got my nVidia GeForce2 GTS working on my linuxbox at 3d-accelerated. > And I am sure that my friend will got his ATi Radeon 9800XT working too. > > -Antti- > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jmorris at redhat.com Tue May 4 15:19:17 2004 From: jmorris at redhat.com (James Morris) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: <20040504151405.GA4009@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 May 2004, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 11:11:26AM -0400, James Morris wrote: > > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Stephen Smalley wrote: > > > > > Interesting - the CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM option is not set in > > > the kernel configuration in the corresponding kernel SRPM, so the > > > selinux=0 support is disabled. > > > > I don't know why this is disabled now. Arjan? > > isn't this obsoleted by the /etc/sysconfig/selinux thing in SysVinit ? Yes. > I'm open to turning it back on if there's a good reason, I for sure don't > have all the visibility into the issues to make that call. As Stephen mentioned, it will break for people who were using selinux=0. - James -- James Morris From zachw at termdex.com Tue May 4 15:30:47 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:30:47 -0400 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 References: <004401c431e7$6bbb7430$6601a8c0@termdex.local> <1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <000e01c431ec$c6d00160$6601a8c0@host4> I didn't have /etc/sysconfig/selinux so I created it and put in the one line SELINUX=disable. I also changed grub.conf to selinux=disable from selinux=0. Neither of these changes made any difference. SELinux still reports "completing initialization" on boot and I still get tons of audit: avc: denied messages. up2date says I'm current. Glad I kept 332 around. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Smalley" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Cc: "James Morris" Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: Re: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 10:52, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > > I just yum updated to kernel-2.6.5-1.349 and when I boot now I get > > SELinux initializing messages and lots of denied messages. > > However, my grub.conf still shows selinux=0 that I've had in there for > > a while now. > > Is that no longer an acceptable option? > > Interesting - the CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM option is not set in > the kernel configuration in the corresponding kernel SRPM, so the > selinux=0 support is disabled. > > Try setting SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux. With the latest > SysVinit and kernel, that will use the new SELinux runtime disable > support to truly disable SELinux, as opposed to the older behavior where > it left SELinux in permissive/no-policy mode. > > However, I would think that they would retain the selinux=0 option as > well, if only to avoid breaking people who were using it previously. > > -- > Stephen Smalley > National Security Agency > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From bfrantzdale at hmc.edu Tue May 4 15:36:18 2004 From: bfrantzdale at hmc.edu (Benjamin FrantzDale) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:36:18 -0700 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <1083680700.20143.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083570294.29548.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083680700.20143.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <1083684979.5883.6.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> I added the info to this bug: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=85851 It looks like someone is on it and that this is the right bug for this information. --Ben On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 15:25 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 17:03, Benjamin FrantzDale wrote: > > Thanks, I'll give that a try. > > > > I was asking because it seems like USB CF readers are the sort of thing > > that should Just Work (or at least should just require adding a line > > to /etc/fstab). So is there any reason this number isn't set higher by > > default? > > I've added a half dozen or so to the whitelist in the last month or two. > Send me your dmesg output, and I'll add it to the list. > > Dave > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Tue May 4 15:36:36 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:36:36 -0400 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: <000e01c431ec$c6d00160$6601a8c0@host4> References: <004401c431e7$6bbb7430$6601a8c0@termdex.local> <1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <000e01c431ec$c6d00160$6601a8c0@host4> Message-ID: <1083684996.19086.153.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 11:30, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > I didn't have /etc/sysconfig/selinux so I created it and put in the one line > SELINUX=disable. > I also changed grub.conf to selinux=disable from selinux=0. > Neither of these changes made any difference. SELinux still reports > "completing initialization" on boot and I still get tons of audit: avc: > denied messages. > up2date says I'm current. The boot option in grub.conf won't work with the new kernel, as the kernel configuration option wasn't enabled for it. /etc/syconfig/selinux with SELINUX=disabled works here for me, but you need an up-to-date kernel and SysVinit. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From gillb4 at telusplanet.net Tue May 4 15:42:58 2004 From: gillb4 at telusplanet.net (Bob Gill) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 09:42:58 -0600 Subject: Request For FC2 final release Message-ID: <1083685378.5628.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi. I have a request for FedoraCore2. I use the x console windows quite a bit for maintentance/upgrades and for running big/long background jobs (yum upgrades/povray). What saves me serious Meta/Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is having a mouse in the x console. I can run "gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2" manually (and I am), but it would be nice to have it start by default. Also, since installing FC2-test3 yesterday, I can report the following working successfully: Scanner (xsane for all users) TV (xawtv) CDRW (cdrecord) DVD (mplayer) X (running Nvidia Binaries) Firewire (2 hard drives and camcorder into Kino) Stereo Sound (both front and rear) ... since I did have a few config problems, I found that using reiserfs for a boot partition makes long waits waiting for e2fsck (and running e2fsck myself) a thing of the past. Please keep in mind that I am running the 2.6.6-rc3-bk5 kernel (post install). Thanks, Bob From darren at dzr-web.com Tue May 4 15:35:59 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 16:35:59 +0100 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> So am I to assume that *no one* on this list knows whether FireWire is enabled or disabled by default in FC2t3? I apologise if I've asked on the wrong forum, but if I have it would have been nice to have been directed to the appropriate one. On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 14:07, D. D. Brierton wrote: > I've been searching the archive for this list and bugzilla, and also > been searching the web for information on the status of FireWire in FC2. > I've actually found quite a lot, but I'm still a little unsure and and > was hoping someone could clarify this for me. > > If memory serves me correctly FC1 shipped with kernel 2.4.22 and had > FireWire disabled by default due to some last minute problems. That was > my main reason for not upgrading to FC1 at the time. I'm still running > RHL9 here, but since it EOLed on Friday I need to consider what to move > to. > > Judging from bugzilla and this list archive, FireWire is re-enabled in > FC2 with kernel 2.6.x, and despite some problems some people are having > on the whole it seems to be working for most. But then I read this: > > Fedora News Updates #10 > http://www.fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/issue10.shtml > > (under "Fedora Core 2 test2 notes") > > "ieee1394 (Firewire) is not available in current kernels, and till its > re-enabled, making the modules by yourself might be required > (reference: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg02482.html). If it's causing you grief, remove its reference in /etc/modprobe.conf and rebuild your image (reference: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg00111.html)." > > Is this still the case in FC2t3? Is it likely to also be the case for > the final release of FC3? > > I really need FireWire working here, and having to roll my own modules > every time an errata kernel is released sounds like a PITA. > > Naturally, this may well be a non-Fedora-specific issue, and so I may > have this problem with whatever 2.6 based distro I choose to upgrade to, > but I would like to know whether FireWire is going to be supported in > FC2 or not. > > TIA, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From shahms at shahms.com Tue May 4 15:48:32 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:48:32 -0700 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <1083685711.3400.77.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> There may be plenty of people on this this who know, however, the answer is also in the archives of the fedora-devel list and in bugzilla. The firewire bug is currently marked as blocking FC2, so I would hope it gets fixed before the final release, but it is broken in FC2t3 and not built or shipped. On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 08:35, D. D. Brierton wrote: > So am I to assume that *no one* on this list knows whether FireWire is > enabled or disabled by default in FC2t3? > > I apologise if I've asked on the wrong forum, but if I have it would > have been nice to have been directed to the appropriate one. > > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 14:07, D. D. Brierton wrote: > > I've been searching the archive for this list and bugzilla, and also > > been searching the web for information on the status of FireWire in FC2. > > I've actually found quite a lot, but I'm still a little unsure and and > > was hoping someone could clarify this for me. > > > > If memory serves me correctly FC1 shipped with kernel 2.4.22 and had > > FireWire disabled by default due to some last minute problems. That was > > my main reason for not upgrading to FC1 at the time. I'm still running > > RHL9 here, but since it EOLed on Friday I need to consider what to move > > to. > > > > Judging from bugzilla and this list archive, FireWire is re-enabled in > > FC2 with kernel 2.6.x, and despite some problems some people are having > > on the whole it seems to be working for most. But then I read this: > > > > Fedora News Updates #10 > > http://www.fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/issue10.shtml > > > > (under "Fedora Core 2 test2 notes") > > > > "ieee1394 (Firewire) is not available in current kernels, and till its > > re-enabled, making the modules by yourself might be required > > (reference: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-March/msg02482.html). If it's causing you grief, remove its reference in /etc/modprobe.conf and rebuild your image (reference: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg00111.html)." > > > > Is this still the case in FC2t3? Is it likely to also be the case for > > the final release of FC3? > > > > I really need FireWire working here, and having to roll my own modules > > every time an errata kernel is released sounds like a PITA. > > > > Naturally, this may well be a non-Fedora-specific issue, and so I may > > have this problem with whatever 2.6 based distro I choose to upgrade to, > > but I would like to know whether FireWire is going to be supported in > > FC2 or not. > > > > TIA, Darren > > -- > ===================================================================== > D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com > Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) > ===================================================================== -- Shahms King From masterra at m-ra.net Tue May 4 15:49:13 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 10:49:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: nVidia and ATi drivers in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1083683632.5883.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> References: <1083677594.32271.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083683632.5883.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> Message-ID: Does anyone have any experience getting the ATI Mobility U1 to work with 3D acceleration? :) It works quite good using the 'radeon' driver for 2d stuff, even plays DVD's and other video well. And OpenGL seems to work (ie, tuxracer doesn't crash), but of course is horribly slow. Anyone get it working? or even try? :) -Quasar On Tue, 4 May 2004, Benjamin FrantzDale wrote: > For reference, I just (finally) got my Radeon 9600 working after > following these instructions: > http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33737573 > > It had been giving me a bad address error when I tried to load fglrx.ko. > > --Ben > > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 16:33 +0300, Antti Aspinen wrote: > > Thank you all for answers. Those really helped me at lot. > > I got my nVidia GeForce2 GTS working on my linuxbox at 3d-accelerated. > > And I am sure that my friend will got his ATi Radeon 9800XT working too. > > > > -Antti- > > > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From zachw at termdex.com Tue May 4 15:53:06 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:53:06 -0400 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 References: <004401c431e7$6bbb7430$6601a8c0@termdex.local><1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil><000e01c431ec$c6d00160$6601a8c0@host4> <1083684996.19086.153.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <000501c431ef$e46cd920$6601a8c0@host4> Well, I just did a yum update this morning from mirrors.kernel.org. I pulled kernel-2.6.5-1.349 and SysVinit-2.85-25. This is the same as download.fedora.redhat.com shows. Should I have something different? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Smalley" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: Re: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 11:30, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > > I didn't have /etc/sysconfig/selinux so I created it and put in the one line > > SELINUX=disable. > > I also changed grub.conf to selinux=disable from selinux=0. > > Neither of these changes made any difference. SELinux still reports > > "completing initialization" on boot and I still get tons of audit: avc: > > denied messages. > > up2date says I'm current. > > The boot option in grub.conf won't work with the new kernel, as the > kernel configuration option wasn't enabled for it. /etc/syconfig/selinux > with SELINUX=disabled works here for me, but you need an up-to-date > kernel and SysVinit. > > -- > Stephen Smalley > National Security Agency > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Tue May 4 15:53:05 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:53:05 -0400 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: <1083684996.19086.153.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> References: <004401c431e7$6bbb7430$6601a8c0@termdex.local> <1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <000e01c431ec$c6d00160$6601a8c0@host4> <1083684996.19086.153.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <1083685985.19086.181.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 11:36, Stephen Smalley wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 11:30, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > > I didn't have /etc/sysconfig/selinux so I created it and put in the one line > > SELINUX=disable. > > I also changed grub.conf to selinux=disable from selinux=0. > > Neither of these changes made any difference. SELinux still reports > > "completing initialization" on boot and I still get tons of audit: avc: > > denied messages. > > up2date says I'm current. > > The boot option in grub.conf won't work with the new kernel, as the > kernel configuration option wasn't enabled for it. /etc/syconfig/selinux > with SELINUX=disabled works here for me, but you need an up-to-date > kernel and SysVinit. Note that it is SELINUX=disabled not 'disable' and watch out for whitespace; looks like the code is overly sensitive to it (no whitespace anywhere, even trailing). -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 4 15:54:34 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 10:54:34 -0500 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4097BCBA.2080008@earthlink.net> Tim Waugh wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 07:44:55AM -0400, Sandy Pond wrote: > > >>A new version of sane just came out with "Added scripts for USB >>hotplugging". Hopefully there's time to get it in. >> >>http://www.sane-project.org/ > > > There isn't, but please try the 1.0.13-6 package here: > > ftp://people.redhat.com/twaugh/tmp/sane-backends/ > > The USB hotplug data is included, as well as a script. This script > operates in exactly the same way as the one for USB cameras -- > i.e. the current console user gets ownership of the device *when it is > plugged in*. > > Better suggestions welcome. It would be nice if the pam_console stuff > interacted more nicely with hotplug scripts that depend on 'current > console user', but I don't see a nice way of doing that. > > Tim. > */ > I installed your new version, looked at /etc/sane.d/epson.conf and found it was for a different scanner than my Epson Perfection 1240U, so changed the last two lines to reflect my scanner as listed in /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usermap. The permissions on /proc/bus/usb/003/002 after reboot are still set at 644, so I need as root to chmod a+w /proc/bus/usb/003/002 to get the scanner to work. Is it possible that something I set up in my multiple attempts to get the scanner working is interfering? I just updated to all the available development updates this morning which included a new kernel and new hotplug packages. I have rebooted to the new kernel. Gerry Tool From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Tue May 4 15:54:35 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:54:35 -0400 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: <000501c431ef$e46cd920$6601a8c0@host4> References: <004401c431e7$6bbb7430$6601a8c0@termdex.local> <1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <000e01c431ec$c6d00160$6601a8c0@host4> <1083684996.19086.153.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <000501c431ef$e46cd920$6601a8c0@host4> Message-ID: <1083686075.19086.184.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 11:53, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > Well, I just did a yum update this morning from mirrors.kernel.org. I pulled > kernel-2.6.5-1.349 and SysVinit-2.85-25. This is the same as > download.fedora.redhat.com shows. > Should I have something different? No, I think your problem is using 'disable' instead of 'disabled' or alternatively whitespace other than the newline after 'disabled'. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl Tue May 4 15:55:33 2004 From: robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl (Rob van Nieuwkerk) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:55:33 +0200 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:35:59 +0100 "D. D. Brierton" wrote: > So am I to assume that *no one* on this list knows whether FireWire is > enabled or disabled by default in FC2t3? Hi Darren, Firewire is disabled in FC2t3 en rawhide kernels. There seem to be problems with firewire stability in Linux 2.6 kernels. Don't know if these problems are already solved in the firewire and/or kernel development trees. I really would like to see working firewire in the final FC2. (or as soon as possible in a upgrade kernel): I need firewire for my backups and it not being available would prevent me from switching to FC2 (which I really like otherwise). greetings, Rob van Nieuwkerk From notting at redhat.com Tue May 4 15:57:35 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:57:35 -0400 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: References: <20040504151405.GA4009@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040504155735.GJ16622@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> James Morris (jmorris at redhat.com) said: > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 11:11:26AM -0400, James Morris wrote: > > > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Stephen Smalley wrote: > > > > > > > Interesting - the CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM option is not set in > > > > the kernel configuration in the corresponding kernel SRPM, so the > > > > selinux=0 support is disabled. > > > > > > I don't know why this is disabled now. Arjan? > > > > isn't this obsoleted by the /etc/sysconfig/selinux thing in SysVinit ? > > Yes. What we used selinux= and enforcing= was for overriding the config file if you screw it up. If there's another way around this, sure. Bill From twaugh at redhat.com Tue May 4 15:59:36 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 16:59:36 +0100 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <4097BCBA.2080008@earthlink.net> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> <4097BCBA.2080008@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040504155936.GO9828@redhat.com> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 10:54:34AM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > >i.e. the current console user gets ownership of the device *when it is > >plugged in*. [...] > I installed your new version, looked at /etc/sane.d/epson.conf and found > it was for a different scanner than my Epson Perfection 1240U, so > changed the last two lines to reflect my scanner as listed in > /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usermap. Hmm, do we really need to list all the USB IDs in epson.conf? :-( > The permissions on /proc/bus/usb/003/002 after reboot are still set at > 644, so I need as root to chmod a+w /proc/bus/usb/003/002 to get the > scanner to work. Is it possible that something I set up in my multiple > attempts to get the scanner working is interfering? Read my email again: the current console user gets ownership of the device *when it is plugged in*. The chown happens at the point of inserting the device -- so if it is always plugged in, root gets it at boot time (in absence of there actually being a console user). So, if you unplug the cable and re-insert it, things should work. I know it isn't ideal: as I said, suggestions for fixing it are welcome. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From darren at dzr-web.com Tue May 4 16:05:55 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 17:05:55 +0100 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083685711.3400.77.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <1083685711.3400.77.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <1083686755.14883.125.camel@excession.dzr> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 16:48, Shahms King wrote: > There may be plenty of people on this this who know, however, the answer > is also in the archives of the fedora-devel list and in bugzilla. Ah -- fedora-devel wasn't one of the lists I searched. I'll go and check through its archive and read up on the current status of FireWire. > The > firewire bug is currently marked as blocking FC2, so I would hope it > gets fixed before the final release, but it is broken in FC2t3 and not > built or shipped. I think I read through *every* single FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 bug for FC in bugzilla before my first post but I missed the "blocking FC2" status. As there are several different FireWire bugs is there a meta or tracking bug for FireWire? I really hope this gets fixed as I need working FireWire. Its why I didn't upgrade from RHL9 to FC1. I hope I don't have to miss out on FC2 as well. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From darren at dzr-web.com Tue May 4 16:09:11 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 17:09:11 +0100 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> Message-ID: <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 16:55, Rob van Nieuwkerk wrote: > Firewire is disabled in FC2t3 en rawhide kernels. Thanks for clearing that up for me. > There seem to be problems with firewire stability in Linux 2.6 kernels. > Don't know if these problems are already solved in the firewire and/or > kernel development trees. > > I really would like to see working firewire in the final FC2. > (or as soon as possible in a upgrade kernel): I need firewire > for my backups and it not being available would prevent me from > switching to FC2 (which I really like otherwise). Yep -- I'm in the same boat. I didn't move to FC1 because of this, but now RHL9 is EOL I have to move to something and working FireWire is going to have to be a deciding factor. Thanks for the response. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From chris at menzel.com Tue May 4 16:19:11 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 18:19:11 +0200 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> On Di, 2004-05-04 at 18:09, D. D. Brierton wrote: > Yep -- I'm in the same boat. I didn't move to FC1 because of this, but > now RHL9 is EOL I have to move to something and working FireWire is > going to have to be a deciding factor. Firewire was/is working in FC1... -- Christian Menzel From darren at dzr-web.com Tue May 4 16:32:53 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 17:32:53 +0100 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> Message-ID: <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 17:19, Christian Menzel wrote: > Firewire was/is working in FC1... Really? Damn. I was absolutely sure that as the release of FC1 approached FireWire was disabled due to some problem with the 2.4.22 kernels. I was even sure that it was mentioned in the release notes but I've just re-read them and couldn't find a mention of it. Have I somehow imagined this? I was tracking the mailing lists during the build up to the release of FC1, and I remember deciding not to move from RHL9 because of this. It's not important I guess, but just for the sake of my own sanity I'd like to know if my memory has any basis in reality! Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From baron at psych.upenn.edu Tue May 4 16:41:28 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 12:41:28 -0400 Subject: ssh-keygen with no passphrase In-Reply-To: <64990.65.40.71.237.1083455214.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <20040501231911.GA7421@psych> <64990.65.40.71.237.1083455214.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <20040504164128.GA19390@psych> On 05/01/04 19:46, William Hooper wrote: > >Jonathan Baron said: >> In several versions of RedHat and with Fedora Core 1, I've been >> able to use ssh-keygen to make a public key without a passphrase, >[snip] >> This has stopped working in Fedora Core 2 test 2 and test 3. >[snip] > >Works for me. Have you double checked the permissions on authorized_keys? > If those are OK, try running the SSH server in debug mode and see what it >says. Actually, debug mode didn't help much, but looking at /var/log/secure showed right away that permissions was the problem. I had checked the permissions many times, and they were the same as on my old computers. However, I finally discovered that they are supposed to be: chmod 700 .ssh chmod 600 .ssh/* and it seems that this rule is now being enforced. (I don't know what the range of possibilities is, but these work.) Thanks. Jon -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 4 16:51:31 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:51:31 -0500 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <20040504155936.GO9828@redhat.com> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> <4097BCBA.2080008@earthlink.net> <20040504155936.GO9828@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4097CA13.8010000@earthlink.net> Tim Waugh wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 10:54:34AM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>>i.e. the current console user gets ownership of the device *when it is >>>plugged in*. > > [...] > >>I installed your new version, looked at /etc/sane.d/epson.conf and found >>it was for a different scanner than my Epson Perfection 1240U, so >>changed the last two lines to reflect my scanner as listed in >>/etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usermap. > > > Hmm, do we really need to list all the USB IDs in epson.conf? :-( > > A possible workaround is to make sure the user knows that he/she needs to have the file modified to reflect their actual scanner as listed in /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usermap. I did test that the scanner won't work if the original record you had in the file was used. >>The permissions on /proc/bus/usb/003/002 after reboot are still set at >>644, so I need as root to chmod a+w /proc/bus/usb/003/002 to get the >>scanner to work. Is it possible that something I set up in my multiple >>attempts to get the scanner working is interfering? > > > Read my email again: the current console user gets ownership of the > device *when it is plugged in*. The chown happens at the point of > inserting the device -- so if it is always plugged in, root gets it at > boot time (in absence of there actually being a console user). > > So, if you unplug the cable and re-insert it, things should work. OK, sorry I didn't note that. Is it possible for this file to get created with the proper permissions and for whatever program is setting them to do it so it will work without intervention? For the present I prefer to issue a command as root to change the permissions rather than wear out the connector and myself reaching behind the computer or scanner to unplug/plug the cable. Neither of these workarounds should be required in a production system. Thanks for your reply. Gerry Tool From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Tue May 4 16:59:30 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 17:59:30 +0100 Subject: problem with network card Message-ID: <1083689970.19107.4.camel@datacontrol> I have a box with sis900 onboard eth which has worked fine with all previous versions of RH/fedora Now with test3 the network just wont come up details modprobe sis900 works fine with no errors and and lsmod shows the module loaded the only error I can see is via dmesg which is to me a very wierd eth0:Can not find ISA Bridge lspci shows the card present as well So any ideas? - I am getting well and truly stumped. From piller at visi.net Tue May 4 16:59:26 2004 From: piller at visi.net (Maurice F. Piller) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 12:59:26 -0400 Subject: FC2Test3 Graphical Installer Feedback Message-ID: Hi All, I installed FC2T3 on a PII 400 MHz system. The install was successful and smooth. At the boot prompt I hit and did a workstation install using the graphical installer. Feedback 1) cdrom ejects during media check testing, cdrom does not eject when it is time to change disks during installation 2) there are four buttons across the bottom of the screen, each install screen usually has other mouse selection choices. Sometimes a button is clickable, sometimes not, indicated by a change in button appearance. Also, if the mouse is placed over an item the appearance will change. In my opinion the contrast between states needs to be increased. If an item is greyed out, please make it more obvious. If the mouse is over an item that can be selected, please make it more obvious. 3) if for example I click on the show help button then the button appearance is changed, showing a dotted outline on the button. If I click in the help window then the dotted line on the show help button goes away. Is this dotted line behaviour intentional? 4) I chose not to install the grub bootloader and the install program highly encouraged the creation of a boot disk. However, I was not given the opportunity to create a boot disk. 5) partitioning install screen: on the top of this screen is a graphical attempt to show the hard disk partitions sizes with partition label/size text. The text is cut off at the bottom of the graphic, small partitions cut off the right side of the text. 6) mouse pointers used during install: I observed 4 mouse pointer types; arrow, rotating hourglass, wristwatch, and text window cursor. Is this intentional, what is the difference between the rotating hourglass and the wristwatch? 7) in the Help window I was able to select text and to right click my mouse which popped up a menu (cut, copy, paste, select etc.) Is this intentional, what is this used for in the install process? Regards, Chip From p.vandenberg at personainternet.com Tue May 4 17:37:42 2004 From: p.vandenberg at personainternet.com (Paul Vandenberg) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 13:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Epiphany Version Message-ID: <35579.192.26.212.72.1083692262.squirrel@webmail.personainternet.com> Hi, The latest test release of FC2 seems to have Epiphany 1.1.12. This is a devlopment snapshot. The stable versions 1.2.x have been out for a while. Will FC2 final have Epiphany 1.2.x? Thanks....Paul -- Fight piracy, use Open Source! From popgojp at yahoo.co.jp Tue May 4 17:42:36 2004 From: popgojp at yahoo.co.jp (d l) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 02:42:36 +0900 (JST) Subject: samba mount command change In-Reply-To: <20040504075721.GB12239@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040504174236.65579.qmail@web806.mail.yahoo.co.jp> samba 303-pre2 on f2t3 seems to be broken. update to lastest 303rc1 should make mount -t smbfs works. mount -t cifs -o user=moo,password=cow //windows/share /mount/point end up with a "//windows/share is not a valid block device" though --- Alan Cox ????????? > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:46:02PM -0500, > trejalaustin wrote: > > with fedora core 2 test 3 the smb mount command > doesn't work it says > > smbfs is no longer command, does anyone know how > to do the samba mount > > command, the old one was mount -t smbfs filename > > /windowscomputername/sharename > -ousername=??????,password=??????. > > FC2 (and 2.6 in general) has a newer more advanced > windows/cifs file > sharing module - try mount -t cifs .. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ From friopolar at saladelfrio.com Tue May 4 17:50:11 2004 From: friopolar at saladelfrio.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=EDo?= Polar) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 19:50:11 +0200 Subject: samba mount command change In-Reply-To: <20040504174236.65579.qmail@web806.mail.yahoo.co.jp> References: <20040504174236.65579.qmail@web806.mail.yahoo.co.jp> Message-ID: <1083693011.2672.2.camel@iglu.saladelfrio.com> El mar, 04-05-2004 a las 19:42, d l escribi?: I been trying to connecto to a WinNT shared folder since Beta 2 and I can't do it and I have all the packages updated. Also there is a bug on bugzilla about that: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120342 > samba 303-pre2 on f2t3 seems to be broken. update to > lastest 303rc1 should make mount -t smbfs works. > > mount -t cifs -o user=moo,password=cow //windows/share > /mount/point > > end up with a "//windows/share is not a valid block > device" though > > --- Alan Cox ????????? > > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:46:02PM -0500, > > trejalaustin wrote: > > > with fedora core 2 test 3 the smb mount command > > doesn't work it says > > > smbfs is no longer command, does anyone know how > > to do the samba mount > > > command, the old one was mount -t smbfs filename > > > /windowscomputername/sharename > > -ousername=??????,password=??????. > > > > FC2 (and 2.6 in general) has a newer more advanced > > windows/cifs file > > sharing module - try mount -t cifs .. > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ -- ___________ Fr?o Polar http://www.saladelfrio.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje est? firmada digitalmente URL: From zachw at termdex.com Tue May 4 17:57:02 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 13:57:02 -0400 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 References: <004401c431e7$6bbb7430$6601a8c0@termdex.local><1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil><000e01c431ec$c6d00160$6601a8c0@host4><1083684996.19086.153.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil><000501c431ef$e46cd920$6601a8c0@host4> <1083686075.19086.184.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <002001c43201$35a1d190$6601a8c0@host4> Yep. Changing SELINUX=disable to SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux fixed it. Thanks, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Smalley" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:54 AM Subject: Re: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 11:53, Zach Wilkinson wrote: > > Well, I just did a yum update this morning from mirrors.kernel.org. I pulled > > kernel-2.6.5-1.349 and SysVinit-2.85-25. This is the same as > > download.fedora.redhat.com shows. > > Should I have something different? > > No, I think your problem is using 'disable' instead of 'disabled' or > alternatively whitespace other than the newline after 'disabled'. > > -- > Stephen Smalley > National Security Agency > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From popgojp at yahoo.co.jp Tue May 4 18:03:02 2004 From: popgojp at yahoo.co.jp (d l) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 03:03:02 +0900 (JST) Subject: samba mount command change In-Reply-To: <1083693011.2672.2.camel@iglu.saladelfrio.com> Message-ID: <20040504180302.19054.qmail@web806.mail.yahoo.co.jp> Get samba-3.0,3-rc1.rpm from samba.org. this one works. samba-3.0.3-pre2.rpm on f2t3 is broken without doubt....... --- Fr� Polar ??? ?????? > El mar, 04-05-2004 a las 19:42, d l escribi??: > > I been trying to connecto to a WinNT shared folder > since Beta 2 and I > can't do it and I have all the packages updated. > Also there is a bug on > bugzilla about that: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120342 > > > samba 303-pre2 on f2t3 seems to be broken. update > to > > lastest 303rc1 should make mount -t smbfs works. > > > > mount -t cifs -o user=moo,password=cow > //windows/share > > /mount/point > > > > end up with a "//windows/share is not a valid > block > > device" though > > > > --- Alan Cox > ????????�?????�� > > > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:46:02PM -0500, > > > trejalaustin wrote: > > > > with fedora core 2 test 3 the smb mount > command > > > doesn't work it says > > > > smbfs is no longer command, does anyone know > how > > > to do the samba mount > > > > command, the old one was mount -t smbfs > filename > > > > /windowscomputername/sharename > > > -ousername=??????,password=??????. > > > > > > FC2 (and 2.6 in general) has a newer more > advanced > > > windows/cifs file > > > sharing module - try mount -t cifs .. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > To unsubscribe: > > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ > -- > ___________ > Fr??o Polar > http://www.saladelfrio.com > > ATTACHMENT part 1.2 application/pgp-signature name=signature.asc > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ From holt at sgi.com Mon May 3 17:45:26 2004 From: holt at sgi.com (Robin Holt) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:45:26 -0500 Subject: Problems with automounter and our site nis maps. Message-ID: <20040503174526.GA30051@lnx-holt.americas.sgi.com> Our site has many existing nis maps for autofs. The autofs/kernel with Fedora Core 1 used the existing maps with no difficulty. With Fedora Core 2, we have issues with mount options which used to be silently ignored. Specifically, we have maps with the quota, noquota, or grpid mount options. These do apply to the Irix, sunos, solaris, or unicos systems we have and our IS is reluctant to remove those options. I believe the source of the problem is the kernel NFS implementation no longer silently ignores these options. Is that correct? If so, can that be disabled? Is there any way I can work around this with any automount options that say ignore these options? Can I kludge around it with any sort of shell script that is used instead of ypcat that sed's off the grpid, quota, or noquota options? We have multiple levels of maps. I did tweak the top level use of ypcat to get rid of the quota, grpid, noquota options, but then the second and other levels of mappings fail. Any ideas? Thanks, Robin Holt From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue May 4 18:04:50 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 14:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ssh-keygen with no passphrase In-Reply-To: <20040504164128.GA19390@psych> References: <20040501231911.GA7421@psych> <64990.65.40.71.237.1083455214.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <20040504164128.GA19390@psych> Message-ID: <3840.12.29.16.103.1083693890.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Jonathan Baron said: [snip] > I had checked the permissions many times, and they were the same as > on my old computers. However, I finally discovered that they are > supposed to be: > chmod 700 .ssh > chmod 600 .ssh/* > and it seems that this rule is now being enforced. (I don't know > what the range of possibilities is, but these work.) IIRC enforcing is dependent on the value of "StrictModes" in the config file. Of course there isn't much reason to have the .ssh directory or files read or writable by anyone other than the user anyway. -- William Hooper From jreiser at BitWagon.com Tue May 4 18:04:59 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:04:59 -0700 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <20040504155936.GO9828@redhat.com> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> <4097BCBA.2080008@earthlink.net> <20040504155936.GO9828@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4097DB4B.80306@BitWagon.com> > Read my email again: the current console user gets ownership of the > device *when it is plugged in*. The chown happens at the point of > inserting the device The phrase "when it is plugged in" has at least two interpretations: 1) the dynamic event of inserting the device 2) the static condition of having an existing connection So, further explanation is necessary to clarify the meaning. -- so if it is always plugged in, root gets it at > boot time (in absence of there actually being a console user). > > So, if you unplug the cable and re-insert it, things should work. > > I know it isn't ideal: as I said, suggestions for fixing it are > welcome. /etc/sysconfig/hwconf has a list of devices that kudzu records at boot, and my USB scanner and USB mouse, which remain plugged in at all times, appear in that list. Why not simulate a hotplug event based on [some of] the devices listed in hwconf? I observe that logging in on the console PS2 keyboard+display causes usb.agent to be called for my USB mouse, although agent finds no matches, and nothing changes. This seems peculiar to me: I never unplug or re-plug the mouse. [My mouse is actually a Logitech trackball: 0x046d/0xc404.] -- John Reiser, jreiser at BitWagon.com From tjaszkin at orange.net Tue May 4 18:09:15 2004 From: tjaszkin at orange.net (Tomasz Jaszkin) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 19:09:15 +0100 Subject: Mouse not working from installer onwards Message-ID: <4097DC4B.7070809@orange.net> Hi I had been running FC1 for a little while and decided to have a look at FC2 Test 2 and now also Test 3. In both Test 2 and 3, my mouse failed to work at all during installation and also after installation. I've looked at the various threads concerning what sounds to be a similar problem and also linked with X not starting. I followed the tips concerning the changes to X configuration using /dev/psaux, /dev/mouse, /dev/input/mice, etc. But nothing worked. In fact changing the setting, made X not start up, so I put it back to default. I have a PS/2 mouse, with scroll wheel (also acts as button 3). Any idea's outwith the things I've tried so far? Tomasz Jaszkin From fedora at andrewfarris.com Tue May 4 18:13:00 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:13:00 -0700 Subject: Request For FC2 final release In-Reply-To: <1083685378.5628.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083685378.5628.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083694379.22380.3.camel@CirithUngol> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 09:42 -0600, Bob Gill wrote: > Hi. I have a request for FedoraCore2. I use the x console windows > quite a bit for maintentance/upgrades and for running big/long > background jobs (yum upgrades/povray). What saves me serious > Meta/Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is having a mouse in the x console. I can > run "gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2" manually (and I am), but it would be nice > to have it start by default. chkconfig --list gpm chkconfig --level 35 gpm on Or tune your services in system-config-services. Set the mouse type in /etc/sysconfig/gpm if necessary. As for default.. I thought it was an anaconda installed default. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From fedora at andrewfarris.com Tue May 4 18:20:23 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:20:23 -0700 Subject: Epiphany Version In-Reply-To: <35579.192.26.212.72.1083692262.squirrel@webmail.personainternet.com> References: <35579.192.26.212.72.1083692262.squirrel@webmail.personainternet.com> Message-ID: <1083694823.22380.11.camel@CirithUngol> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 13:37 -0400, Paul Vandenberg wrote: > Hi, > > The latest test release of FC2 seems to have Epiphany 1.1.12. This is > a devlopment snapshot. The stable versions 1.2.x have been out for a > while. Will FC2 final have Epiphany 1.2.x? > > Thanks....Paul Not likely, FC2 is in full freeze very soon. It may be however already contain part of the fixes that were made since 1.1.12 snapshot (as patches applied). -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From b.akins at verizon.net Tue May 4 18:19:09 2004 From: b.akins at verizon.net (Olu Akins) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 14:19:09 -0400 Subject: Insufficient privileges with Firestarter Message-ID: <200405041419.09723.b.akins@verizon.net> I have FC2T3 installed with 2.6.5-1.327 and I have never had any problem running firestarter from the icon. I just installed 2.6.5-1.349 and rebooted and I get this message from both kernels when I click on the icon "Insufficient privileges You must have root user privileges to use Firestarted" I don't want to give the user root privileges and normally it ask for root password when the icon is clicked. I can start Firestarter from the shell as su and I noticed it complains about "FATAL: Module bsd_comp not found" any solution? Olu From b.akins at verizon.net Tue May 4 18:38:11 2004 From: b.akins at verizon.net (Olu Akins) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 14:38:11 -0400 Subject: Status of /etc/modules.conf Message-ID: <200405041438.11532.b.akins@verizon.net> It was in FC2T2 but it cannot be found in FC2T3. I need to load some modules and it is a pita to manually load them. One is usb-storage for the flash drive and the other is ndiswrapper for wlan connection Thanks Olu From markf78 at yahoo.com Tue May 4 18:53:42 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040504181018.0DFD874A8B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040504185342.95905.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- > Yep -- I'm in the same boat. I didn't move to FC1 because of this, but > now RHL9 is EOL I have to move to something and working FireWire is > going to have to be a deciding factor. >>Firewire was/is working in FC1... maybe officially it was supported but the implementation was quite buggy and IMHO unusable (at least for removable disks). The FC2 distribution with the 2.6 kernels are definitely a tremendous improvement over FC1. btw, i read somewhere that FC2 will be shipping with a 2.6.6-* kernel. i've been following the changelog on kernel.org and i've noticed a lot of ieee1394 fixes so i'm optimistic FC2 and firewire will be working as intended upon shipping. also, i recommend the following setup for optimal firewire performance for the time being: [root at markf78 home]# rpm -q fedora-release initscripts SysVinit kernel fedora-release-1.92-1 initscripts-7.50-1 SysVinit-2.85-25 kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 (last known working firewire kernel) NB. be sure to "/sbin/chkconfig kudzu off" otherwise the setup will kernel panic at boot. i've experienced no problems, bugs, or any other errors with the above setup. hope this helps... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue May 4 18:56:31 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 20:56:31 +0200 Subject: rsync and file device (fixed) In-Reply-To: <1083630063.960.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083627714.960.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040503235113.GC5314@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1083630063.960.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083696991.960.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> rsync-2.6.2-0 fix this issue. Le mar 04/05/2004 ? 02:21, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > Le mar 04/05/2004 ? 01:51, Alan Cox a ?crit : > > On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 01:41:57AM +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > Very annoying bug with rsync. > > > It seams it has been introduced in rsync-2.6.1-0.pre1 . I don't see this > > > problem with FC2T1 (and perhaps FC2T2). > > > > Supposed to be fixed in the next one - known bug > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122357 > > http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/rsync-2.6.2-NEWS > BUG FIXES: > > - Fixed a major bug in the sorting of the filenames when --relative > is used for some sources (just sources such as "/" and "/*" were > affected). This fix ensures that we ask for the right file-list > item when requesting changes from the sender. > > I don't use -R (--relative) flag. > In my example, i use -a : > -a, --archive archive mode, equivalent to -rlptgoD (there is no -R) > > It's not the same bug. > > I carefully check the copy of my whole system and everything seems fine. > Here the problem appear only with files device. > > I'll check this bug with rsync 2.6.2. From holt at sgi.com Tue May 4 19:00:21 2004 From: holt at sgi.com (Robin Holt) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 14:00:21 -0500 Subject: Status of /etc/modules.conf In-Reply-To: <200405041438.11532.b.akins@verizon.net> References: <200405041438.11532.b.akins@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040504190021.GA11904@lnx-holt.americas.sgi.com> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 02:38:11PM -0400, Olu Akins wrote: > It was in FC2T2 but it cannot be found in FC2T3. I need to load some modules > and it is a pita to manually load them. > > One is usb-storage for the flash drive and the other is ndiswrapper for wlan > connection modules.conf got renamed to modprobe.conf. Syntax is simpler in the new as well. Pay careful attention. Robin From jmorris at redhat.com Tue May 4 19:21:42 2004 From: jmorris at redhat.com (James Morris) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 15:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: <20040504155735.GJ16622@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 May 2004, Bill Nottingham wrote: > What we used selinux= and enforcing= was for overriding the config > file if you screw it up. If there's another way around this, sure. Good point, I would also like to use selinux= for development/support (e.g. to ensure SELinux has not been loaded at all). Arjan, any objection to re-enabling this? - James -- James Morris From twaugh at redhat.com Tue May 4 19:23:10 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 20:23:10 +0100 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <4097DB4B.80306@BitWagon.com> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> <4097BCBA.2080008@earthlink.net> <20040504155936.GO9828@redhat.com> <4097DB4B.80306@BitWagon.com> Message-ID: <20040504192310.GP9828@redhat.com> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 11:04:59AM -0700, John Reiser wrote: > /etc/sysconfig/hwconf has a list of devices that kudzu records at boot, > and my USB scanner and USB mouse, which remain plugged in at all times, > appear in that list. Why not simulate a hotplug event based on > [some of] the devices listed in hwconf? I observe that logging in > on the console PS2 keyboard+display causes usb.agent to be called for > my USB mouse, although agent finds no matches, and nothing changes. > This seems peculiar to me: I never unplug or re-plug the mouse. > [My mouse is actually a Logitech trackball: 0x046d/0xc404.] A hotplug event a log-in (and after pam_console has done its stuff) seems to be what's needed, yes. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue May 4 19:28:07 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 21:28:07 +0200 Subject: Request For FC2 final release In-Reply-To: <1083694379.22380.3.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1083685378.5628.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083694379.22380.3.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1083698887.960.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mar 04/05/2004 ? 20:13, Andrew Farris a ?crit : > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 09:42 -0600, Bob Gill wrote: > > Hi. I have a request for FedoraCore2. I use the x console windows > > quite a bit for maintentance/upgrades and for running big/long > > background jobs (yum upgrades/povray). What saves me serious > > Meta/Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is having a mouse in the x console. I can > > run "gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2" manually (and I am), but it would be nice > > to have it start by default. > > chkconfig --list gpm > chkconfig --level 35 gpm on > > Or tune your services in system-config-services. > Set the mouse type in /etc/sysconfig/gpm if necessary. system-config-mouse fix a misconfigured mouse. > > As for default.. I thought it was an anaconda installed default. > -- > Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) > fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men > to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) > From masterra at m-ra.net Tue May 4 19:46:56 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 14:46:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: samba mount command change In-Reply-To: <20040504174236.65579.qmail@web806.mail.yahoo.co.jp> References: <20040504174236.65579.qmail@web806.mail.yahoo.co.jp> Message-ID: When i try with cifs i always get an error. I get "Access Denied" from my Debian samba server (which may be too old to work with cifs anyway), but i also get "I/O Error" from my Windows XP machine. On Wed, 5 May 2004, d l wrote: > samba 303-pre2 on f2t3 seems to be broken. update to > lastest 303rc1 should make mount -t smbfs works. > > mount -t cifs -o user=moo,password=cow //windows/share > /mount/point > > end up with a "//windows/share is not a valid block > device" though > > --- Alan Cox ?????????????????? > > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:46:02PM -0500, > > trejalaustin wrote: > > > with fedora core 2 test 3 the smb mount command > > doesn't work it says > > > smbfs is no longer command, does anyone know how > > to do the samba mount > > > command, the old one was mount -t smbfs filename > > > /windowscomputername/sharename > > -ousername=??????,password=??????. > > > > FC2 (and 2.6 in general) has a newer more advanced > > windows/cifs file > > sharing module - try mount -t cifs .. > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue May 4 19:51:05 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 21:51:05 +0200 Subject: rpm and hard links Message-ID: <1083700262.960.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> $ rpm -q kernel-* kernel-2.6.5-1.327 kernel-2.6.5-1.349 I have many hard links between kernel-2.6.5-1.327 and kernel-2.6.5-1.349. Example : $ find /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.3* -type f -links 2 -print | wc 7682 7682 466570 $ ll -i lib/modules/2.6.5-1.349/build/include/config/net/sch/ingress/module.h lib/modules/2.6.5-1.327/build/include/config/net/sch/ingress/module.h 377069 -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 40 mai 2 22:46 lib/modules/2.6.5-1.327/build/include/config/net/sch/ingress/module.h 377069 -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 40 mai 2 22:46 lib/modules/2.6.5-1.349/build/include/config/net/sch/ingress/module.h A rpm feature ? If it's a feature, why this doesn't append with kernel-source ? $ rpm -q kernel-source-* kernel-source-2.6.5-1.327 kernel-source-2.6.5-1.349 $ find /usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.3* -type f -links -print | wc 0 0 0 From tradecraft1 at yahoo.com Tue May 4 19:58:33 2004 From: tradecraft1 at yahoo.com (Chris Harrington) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 12:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Broadcom 5700 NIC on Test 3 Message-ID: <20040504195833.93069.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com> All, I have an IBM G40 laptop with a Broadcom 5700 Gigabit NIC. Under RH 9 it was properly identified and worked fine. I did a fresh install of Fedora2 Test3 this morning. Now the NIC is identified as a 5900 and does not function. There are no related errors in /var/log/messages. It will not pick up a DHCP lease. When I set the IP manually I cannot ping the gateway or any other system in the local network, DNS does not work either. I went to Boadcom's site and downloaded the latest driver and built it from source. When I tried to insmod bcm5700.o I got an "Invalid Module" error. Any thoughts or suggestions on this? Or additional debugging steps I can take. Thanks, --Chris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Tue May 4 19:59:35 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 15:59:35 -0400 Subject: yum config and apt config for FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <20040504163124.1833bdbe.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <4096CEAE.4000001@rogers.com> <20040504163124.1833bdbe.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <1083700775.2113.55.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 10:31, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 03 May 2004 18:58:54 -0400, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > > I have installed FC2T2 and have upgraded by yum to something which seems > > like FC2T3. But I was using synaptic to upgrade some rpm's. > > > > So the box is a mismatch with rpm's. I have read the distrubution list > > and I can not figure out what are the real > > repositories for FC2T3 with both apt and yum. > > Your favourite mirror of Fedora Core 1.92 (or Fedora Development) should > be yum-enabled, since the master server is yum-enabled. > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html Apt-enabled repository: http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.92/i386/ Or mirrors at: http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraMirrorList HOWTO and FAQ at the top level above - need updates for FC2T3 but close enough to figure out. Phil From shermanw at ucla.edu Tue May 4 20:01:52 2004 From: shermanw at ucla.edu (WANG,SHERMAN S) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 13:01:52 -0700 Subject: Problems running tomcat 4.1.27-12 Message-ID: <1083700912.4097f6b0ec09a@mail.ucla.edu> Hi, I recently installed tomcat 4.1.27-12 on two machines with fresh installs of FC2 Test3 via yum and can't seem to be able to run anything. On both machines, the service starts without any error messages, but it doesn't bind to port 8080 so I'm not able to access localhost:8080. Also, when I try the runtests script, I get the following (on both installs): [INFO] creating catalina home in /tmp/tomcat [INFO] starting server [ERROR] Traceback (most recent call last): [ERROR] File "./runtests", line 65, in ? [ERROR] server.getServer(conn) [ERROR] File "harness/server.py", line 151, in getServer [ERROR] server = apply(Server, args, kwargs) [ERROR] File "harness/server.py", line 60, in __init__ [ERROR] self.start() [ERROR] File "harness/server.py", line 117, in start [ERROR] raise ServerError, "gave up waiting for server to warm up" [ERROR] ServerError: gave up waiting for server to warm up [INFO] stopping server Any ideas? Thank you for your time, Sherman From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 4 20:06:17 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 16:06:17 -0400 Subject: lvm2 problems References: Message-ID: Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Apr 28, 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > >> Couldn't find device with uuid >> '2adyAl-cmc6-kSXj-a7Nu-IPmg-YF0e-5ERd6y'. Couldn't find all physical >> volumes for volume group Volume00. Volume group "Volume00" not found > >> It is not fatal, because it manages to mount anyway: > > Has this device ever held a RAID member? Recent versions of lvm check > for a RAID superblock and skip block devices that contain them. You > may use mdadm --zero-superblock (sp?) to fix that. > Here is some more info: /usr/sbin/pvdisplay ??Couldn't?find?device?with?uuid?'2adyAl-cmc6-kSXj-a7Nu-IPmg-YF0e-5ERd6y'. ??---?Physical?volume?--- ??PV?Name???????????????/dev/sda2 ??VG?Name???????????????Volume00 ??PV?Size???????????????73.24?GB?/?not?usable?0??? ??Allocatable???????????yes?(but?full) ??PE?Size?(KByte)???????4096 ??Total?PE??????????????18749 ??Free?PE???????????????0 ??Allocated?PE??????????18749 ??PV?UUID???????????????wwpCTJ-Yc4C-EARb-1jnt-YPJE-TMGm-c845g8 ??? ??---?Physical?volume?--- ??PV?Name???????????????unknown?device ??VG?Name???????????????Volume00 ??PV?Size???????????????73.24?GB?/?not?usable?0??? ??Allocatable???????????yes? ??PE?Size?(KByte)???????4096 ??Total?PE??????????????18749 ??Free?PE???????????????2 ??Allocated?PE??????????18747 ??PV?UUID???????????????2adyAl-cmc6-kSXj-a7Nu-IPmg-YF0e-5ERd6y It looks to me that the problem is the PV Name: Unknown device. Please, can anyone tell me what command to use to fix this? I can't run any kernel after 2.6.4-1.305. From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue May 4 20:13:50 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 22:13:50 +0200 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> D. D. Brierton wrote: >On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 17:19, Christian Menzel wrote: > >>Firewire was/is working in FC1... >> >> >Really? > really! > Damn. I was absolutely sure that as the release of FC1 >approached FireWire was disabled due to some problem with the 2.4.22 >kernels. I was even sure that it was mentioned in the release notes but >I've just re-read them and couldn't find a mention of it. > > Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:17:51 -0200 Cc: fedora-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: How do I find my firewire HD References: <1068481438.4750.5.camel at localhost.localdomain> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: GCC Team, Red Hat > I have a Maxtor 5000XT external firewire/USB2 HD. See http://people.redhat.com/aoliva/snapshots/FC1-firewire/ http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC1-firewire/0README -- shrek-m From alexl at stofanet.dk Tue May 4 20:21:46 2004 From: alexl at stofanet.dk (Alex Thomsen Leth) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 22:21:46 +0200 Subject: floppy failure Message-ID: <1083702106.3664.1.camel@simba.lion> why all these floppy errors. i dont have a floppy. May 4 22:20:10 simba kernel: usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using address 3May 4 22:20:10 simba kernel: scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices May 4 22:20:10 simba kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE Rev: 1.25 May 4 22:20:10 simba kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 May 4 22:20:10 simba kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte hdwr sectors (131 MB) May 4 22:20:10 simba kernel: sda: assuming Write Enabled May 4 22:20:10 simba kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through May 4 22:20:10 simba kernel: sda: sda1 May 4 22:20:10 simba kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 May 4 22:20:11 simba scsi.agent[3553]: disk at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-5/1-5:1.0/host2/2:0:0:0 May 4 22:20:11 simba kernel: inserting floppy driver for 2.6.5-1.327smp May 4 22:20:14 simba kernel: floppy0: no floppy controllers found May 4 22:20:14 simba modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting floppy (/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.327smp/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko): No such device Alex Thomsen Leth From deathkrush at hotmail.com Tue May 4 20:30:07 2004 From: deathkrush at hotmail.com (Stan Vasilyev) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 13:30:07 -0700 Subject: Huge problems with FC2-test3 on Toshiba P15-S420 Laptop Message-ID: I'm having a lot of problems with Fedora Core 2 Test 3 on my Toshiba P15-S420 Laptop. I made a clean installation and when the system first started it showed me a black screen. I changed the runlevel to 3 and it booted to text mode. The GUI loaded successfully after running startx. I am using the generic vesa driver. Now the problem is that I cannot log out or restart the machine. Every time I try it just shows me a black screen after which I have to remove the laptop battery to turn off the machine. Also, sometimes there is a problem with applications. Once in a while something happens to the system and the applications wouldn't start. I can't start the terminal, text editors or any other apps. The only things that still start are Mozilla and file manager. Finally, NVIDIA drivers don't work either. They compile and install fine, I edited xorg.conf file and after reboot it showed me a black screen again so I switched back to vesa driver. My RedHat 9 installation was working fine and I didn't have any of the above problems. However my sound didn't work and wireless couldn't do dhcp. That's why I switched to Fedora Core 2 and the new 2.6.5 kernel. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From si at bananas.hopto.org Tue May 4 20:33:01 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:33:01 +0100 Subject: Installing T3 References: <20040503124926.327C973EDE@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <009601c43216$fed92710$f901a8c0@bananas.hopto.org> Hi, Just wondering, the sata_sil module has now been added into module-info of anaconda, is there anyway with the iso's i have downloaded to put them on my hard drive or server and install via ftp? but alter the module-info file so that i can install it? or is there a command to force the loading without altering build? Can anyone help me with this? From fedora at resork.sent.com Tue May 4 20:58:47 2004 From: fedora at resork.sent.com (Ken Roser) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 16:58:47 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 install crash after selecting no firewall Message-ID: <40980407.6050802@resork.sent.com> Some people have reported that the installer crashes upon selecting the firewall options and hitting next. The problem is documented in bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121907 and has been resolved. Does anyone know how the bug was fixed, or what scenario causes the bug to occur? I'd sure like to understand what it is in my system that the installer chokes on and thus be able to work around it. Obviouslly, based on the activity here, people are getting Fedora installed successfully. Is there any way to map a Bugzilla bug to the files changed in CVS? From mpeters at mac.com Tue May 4 21:13:54 2004 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 14:13:54 -0700 Subject: Epiphany Version In-Reply-To: <1083694823.22380.11.camel@CirithUngol> References: <35579.192.26.212.72.1083692262.squirrel@webmail.personainternet.com> <1083694823.22380.11.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1083705233.4068.3.camel@devel.mpeters.us> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 11:20, Andrew Farris wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 13:37 -0400, Paul Vandenberg wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The latest test release of FC2 seems to have Epiphany 1.1.12. This is > > a devlopment snapshot. The stable versions 1.2.x have been out for a > > while. Will FC2 final have Epiphany 1.2.x? > > > > Thanks....Paul > > Not likely, FC2 is in full freeze very soon. It may be however already > contain part of the fixes that were made since 1.1.12 snapshot (as > patches applied). Does the epiphany package provide anything that other packages depend upon? I don't think so. Therefore I would think that shipping a stable version is better than a development version - and *may* fix this bug - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119784 I might try building the stable epiphany and see if it does. It's a rather annoying bug since I do some web development with Linux, epiphany is my browser, and viewing source is very useful for seeing the source of dynamically generated content. -- Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/ From glussier at sympatico.ca Tue May 4 21:15:13 2004 From: glussier at sympatico.ca (Gilles Lussier) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:15:13 -0400 Subject: glussier@sympatico.ca Message-ID: <001f01c4321c$e41a52e0$0201a8c0@gilles> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 4 21:15:27 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 16:15:27 -0500 Subject: Desktop switching tool problem In-Reply-To: <1083627100.5813.11.camel@laptop> References: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> <1083627100.5813.11.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <409807EF.1010304@earthlink.net> Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 08:28, jeff wrote: > >>I just did a clean install of Test 3, all went well except in this >>version, I can't get the desktop switching tool from the main menu to >>work. It just goes off into the weeds and doesn't run. When I run >>/user/share/switchdesk/switchdesk-gui.py, it says there is a syntax >>problem in line 36. I ran /user/share/applications/switchdesk and, of >>course, it runs switchdesk-gui.py with the same error. Any ideas? > > > Advance forewarning of impending catastrophe. We'll probably be > removing switchdesk in FC3: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-May/msg00010.html > > Cheers, > Mark. > > Reading the referenced message, it appears that even though switchdesk is removed, one will still be able to select which gui to use at login. Is this understanding correct? Gerry Tool From fedora at warmcat.com Tue May 4 21:31:43 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 22:31:43 +0100 Subject: Huge problems with FC2-test3 on Toshiba P15-S420 Laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405042231.43847.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 May 2004 21:30, Stan Vasilyev wrote: Hi Stan - > Now the problem is that I cannot log out or restart the machine. Every time > I try it just shows me a black screen after which I have to remove the > laptop battery to turn off the machine. try appending acpi=off to the kernel commandline, found in /boot/grub/grub.conf > Also, sometimes there is a problem with applications. Once in a while > something happens to the system and the applications wouldn't start. I > can't start the terminal, text editors or any other apps. The only things > that still start are Mozilla and file manager. Are you in KDE or Gnome? Try starting a 'bad' application from a terminal window and look for any diagnostic messages. > Finally, NVIDIA drivers don't work either. They compile and install fine, I > edited xorg.conf file and after reboot it showed me a black screen again so > I switched back to vesa driver. Try the opensource "nv" driver instead -- this is much faster than vesa, and offers Xv video accelleration. No 3D or multihead. Read the list archives for the reasons why the nVidia binary driver is not working and won't be for a while either. I assume that this was not already tried by the install with fatal results. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAmAu/jKeDCxMJCTIRAscdAJ47pncJjIso33SrVidDfkvlYKmragCggBCH G9QvD6431DRNha134vqMH0Y= =ZRTU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Tue May 4 21:34:43 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 00:34:43 +0300 Subject: floppy failure In-Reply-To: <1083702106.3664.1.camel@simba.lion> References: <1083702106.3664.1.camel@simba.lion> Message-ID: <200405050034.43405.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Alex Thomsen Leth kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika tiistai, 4. toukokuuta 2004 23:21): > why all these floppy errors. i dont have a floppy. > May 4 22:20:14 simba kernel: floppy0: no > floppy controllers found You are getting the error messages _because_ you don't have a floppy. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From fedora at warmcat.com Tue May 4 21:37:39 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 22:37:39 +0100 Subject: floppy failure In-Reply-To: <200405050034.43405.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> References: <1083702106.3664.1.camel@simba.lion> <200405050034.43405.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <200405042237.39876.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 May 2004 22:34, Markku Kolkka wrote: > Alex Thomsen Leth kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika tiistai, 4. > toukokuuta 2004 23:21): > You are getting the error messages _because_ you don't have a > floppy. add install floppy /bin/true to /etc/modprobe.conf to kill the floppy module. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAmA0jjKeDCxMJCTIRAr4MAJ9al6BOzeL8WR89jsmt6MGYqemKQQCeNuyr wcaA1Q8ERcvkAk3hIjkbw6Y= =9Uth -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From markf78 at yahoo.com Tue May 4 21:54:27 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 14:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: <20040504201959.49B2A74C32@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040504215427.20376.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- is this a bug in rsync? let me know and i'll bugzilla it... [root at markf78 zip750]# rsync -vr /home/zip750 /mnt/zip/zip750 building file list ... done zip750/#canadienkings.txt# zip750/C/2b.c zip750/C/fileio.h zip750/C/hash.c zip750/C/hash.h zip750/C/httpfn.c zip750/C/httpfn.h zip750/C/random.c zip750/C/random.h zip750/C/stringfn.c zip750/C/stringfn.h zip750/C/tcpsocket.c zip750/C/tcpsocket.h zip750/JPEGs/Diploma.jpg (snip) zip750/backups/Linux/Xmms/xmms-1.2.10-1.i386.rpm zip750/backups/Linux/Xmms/xmms-alsa-1.2.10-1.i386.rpm zip750/backups/Linux/dd_rescue-1.03.tar.gz zip750/backups/Linux/ghex-2.4.0.1-0.fdr.4.1.i386.rpm zip750/backups/Linux/kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1.i686.rpm zip750/backups/Linux/modprobe.conf mkstemp "/mnt/zip/zip750/zip750/C/.2b.c.v2TNLo" failed: No such file or directory zip750/backups/Macintosh/.DS_Store zip750/backups/Macintosh/Connectix Virtual PC 6.0.sit zip750/backups/Macintosh/RealOnePlayerGold.sit zip750/backups/Macintosh/serial number.rtf zip750/backups/Windows/AdbeRdr60_enu_full.exe zip750/backups/Windows/Dell BIOS vA10.exe.gz zip750/backups/Windows/DirectX 8.1.exe zip750/backups/Windows/GoogleToolbarInstaller.exe zip750/backups/Windows/MPEG-4 v1.1.exe zip750/backups/Windows/QuickTime 6.4.exe zip750/backups/Windows/Windows Media Player v9 Runtime.exe zip750/backups/Windows/ie4.zip rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes: phase "unknown": Broken pipe rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(836) rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 69 bytes: phase "unknown": Broken pipersync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(836) i can duplicate it every time... [root at markf78 zip750]# rpm -q rsync rsync-2.6.2-0 mark. :-) p.s. does it bother anyone else that rsync does not follow the typical unix syntax of "application dest src" and instead uses the described "application src dest"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From mpeters at mac.com Tue May 4 21:55:18 2004 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 14:55:18 -0700 Subject: Epiphany Version In-Reply-To: <1083705233.4068.3.camel@devel.mpeters.us> References: <35579.192.26.212.72.1083692262.squirrel@webmail.personainternet.com> <1083694823.22380.11.camel@CirithUngol> <1083705233.4068.3.camel@devel.mpeters.us> Message-ID: <1083707718.4068.5.camel@devel.mpeters.us> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 14:13, Michael A. Peters wrote: > and *may* fix this bug - > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119784 > > I might try building the stable epiphany and see if it does. Well - it doesn't. It did build and install without a problem, though. -- Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/ From mpeters at mac.com Tue May 4 21:56:37 2004 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 14:56:37 -0700 Subject: floppy failure In-Reply-To: <200405042237.39876.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1083702106.3664.1.camel@simba.lion> <200405050034.43405.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> <200405042237.39876.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1083707797.4068.7.camel@devel.mpeters.us> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 14:37, Andy Green wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 04 May 2004 22:34, Markku Kolkka wrote: > > Alex Thomsen Leth kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika tiistai, 4. > > toukokuuta 2004 23:21): > > > You are getting the error messages _because_ you don't have a > > floppy. > > add > > install floppy /bin/true > > to /etc/modprobe.conf to kill the floppy module. If that is needed to not get errors when you do not have a floppy drive, kudzu should take care of that - file a bug with kudzu. -- Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/ From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Tue May 4 22:19:37 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 15:19:37 -0700 Subject: DVD, XP and a 2 GB limit In-Reply-To: <1083546603.17319.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> References: <1083546603.17319.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <20040504221937.GB25599@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 09:06:11PM -0400, David Collantes wrote: > On 5/2/2004 9:02 PM, TGS wrote: > > >I need to get the DVD image to XP in order to burn the DVD. I attempt to > >ftp .... > Have you tried sftp? I was able to transfer T# over sftp to my Windows XP > machine without problems. I used pscp[1] but you could use just about any > other program (SSH from ssh.com, etc). I would be curious if "Putty" could transfer the file. Find it on the net with a google search. On the WindowZ box use pscp (putty secure copy). If you do not have secure shell tools on the windows box you should. See also Cygwin tools. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From david at bus.ucf.edu Tue May 4 22:22:58 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 18:22:58 -0400 Subject: DVD, XP and a 2 GB limit In-Reply-To: <20040504221937.GB25599@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <1083546603.17319.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040504221937.GB25599@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <1083709588.680.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/4/2004 6:19 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote: > I would be curious if "Putty" could transfer the file. > Find it on the net with a google search. You just re-typed what I typed on the message you replied to :-) Are we going in circles now? ;-) I wrote: > Have you tried sftp? I was able to transfer T# over sftp to my Windows XP > machine without problems. I used pscp[1] but you could use just about any > other program (SSH from ssh.com, etc). > > [1] http://shurl.us/ad/ Cheers, -- David From justinc at serani.com.au Tue May 4 23:36:58 2004 From: justinc at serani.com.au (Justin Clacherty) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:36:58 +1000 Subject: Athlon 64 new breakages References: <20040430212005.GA30708@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <001f01c43230$b1a7a6f0$1601a8c0@pug> I'm seeing this as well with an Opteron system. Install gets to the partitioning phase and when I click next to auto partition (or manual) the raid controller gives out a beep and then the whole system hangs. i386 install works fine (though I still get that odd little beep from the raid controller when the partitioning starts). I've got an Adaptec 2810SA SATA RAID controller. Justin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Cox" To: Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 7:20 AM Subject: Athlon 64 new breakages Test2 the dual athlon 64 box installs faultlessly. Test3 the same hardware blows up the kernel (blue screen with random crap on it - text mode) the moment the aacraid driver loads. So it looks like someone broke aacraid or the scsi layer between t2 and t3. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From dkramer at reflect.com Tue May 4 23:51:45 2004 From: dkramer at reflect.com (David Kramer) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 16:51:45 -0700 Subject: Which drivers work best with an ORiNOCO card on FC2T2? Message-ID: Just looking for some recommendations on which Driver people found to be best suited for ORiNOCO cards, yes I want to integrate this with kisMET. Any recos? Im currently using my built Intel Pro, with the IPW2100 driver and hostap for WEP. Thanks, DK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michal at harddata.com Wed May 5 00:00:05 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 18:00:05 -0600 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: <20040504215427.20376.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com>; from markf78@yahoo.com on Tue, May 04, 2004 at 02:54:27PM -0700 References: <20040504201959.49B2A74C32@hormel.redhat.com> <20040504215427.20376.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040504180005.A8371@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 02:54:27PM -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > p.s. does it bother anyone else that rsync does not follow the typical unix > syntax of "application dest src" and instead uses the described "application > src dest"? Hm, let us see: cp .... mv .... ln .... rcp .... scp .... ftp .... ('get' command and its variations) wget ... .... (to be continued ...) I wonder how this claimed "typical unix syntax" is really typical? If you have an option which allows to specify a target other than a default then this is not what you may think it is. Michal From darren at dzr-web.com Wed May 5 00:33:03 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 01:33:03 +0100 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 21:13, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC1-firewire/0README Aha! Thank you for pointing this out to me. So FireWire support was removed from the installer at the last minute and I obviously misread that as it being removed from the distro tout court. I'm now feeling a bit stupid ... Thanks for the heads up thought. I guess this is marginally better than my having imagined the whole thing. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From mpeters at mac.com Wed May 5 00:39:06 2004 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 17:39:06 -0700 Subject: Epiphany Version In-Reply-To: <1083707718.4068.5.camel@devel.mpeters.us> References: <35579.192.26.212.72.1083692262.squirrel@webmail.personainternet.com> <1083694823.22380.11.camel@CirithUngol> <1083705233.4068.3.camel@devel.mpeters.us> <1083707718.4068.5.camel@devel.mpeters.us> Message-ID: <1083717546.4068.15.camel@devel.mpeters.us> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 14:55, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 14:13, Michael A. Peters wrote: > > and *may* fix this bug - > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119784 > > > > I might try building the stable epiphany and see if it does. > > Well - it doesn't. > It did build and install without a problem, though. Setting the preferred text editor to gEdit does work - I think (and this can be fixed before core2 release) that that should be done, OO.o should not be what is used for the default text editor if the user has not specified a preferred text editor. That being said - I think updating to a stable epiphany rather than development is a good idea. The only patches to the current epiphany src.rpm have nothing to do with the code itself really (default start page and I believe the script wrapper that launches epiphany) Since nothing else in Fedora depends upon anything epiphany provides - can it be updated to a _stable_ version before core2 release? The src.rpm works just fine by just changing the version number. At least for me - everything I do in epiphany has been working just dandy. -- Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/ From darren at dzr-web.com Wed May 5 00:40:28 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 01:40:28 +0100 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040504185342.95905.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040504185342.95905.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1083717627.4815.7.camel@excession.dzr> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 19:53, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > maybe officially it was supported but the implementation was quite buggy and > IMHO unusable (at least for removable disks). The FC2 distribution with the 2.6 > kernels are definitely a tremendous improvement over FC1. Except for the fact that it (FireWire support) is currently disabled. But I am looking forward to the improvements in 2.6 for hotpluggable devices. > btw, i read somewhere that FC2 will be shipping with a 2.6.6-* kernel. i've > been following the changelog on kernel.org and i've noticed a lot of ieee1394 > fixes so i'm optimistic FC2 and firewire will be working as intended upon > shipping. That sounds very promising. > also, i recommend the following setup for optimal firewire performance for the > time being: > > [root at markf78 home]# rpm -q fedora-release initscripts SysVinit kernel > fedora-release-1.92-1 > initscripts-7.50-1 > SysVinit-2.85-25 > kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 (last known working firewire kernel) > > NB. be sure to "/sbin/chkconfig kudzu off" otherwise the setup will kernel > panic at boot. i've experienced no problems, bugs, or any other errors with the > above setup. > > hope this helps... That's very helpful advice. As I said I'm still on RHL9 which is now EOL and so I need to come up with something to replace my current OS soon. If nothing prepackaged presents itself I'll follow your advice. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From efthym at gmx.net Wed May 5 00:44:20 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 20:44:20 -0400 Subject: acpi scripts In-Reply-To: <1083676311.2455.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083676311.2455.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 04 May 2004 09:11:51 -0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > Can anyone point me to a working set of acpi scripts that would enable > suspend-to-RAM and other useful things (dimming the screen when > switvching to battery power, etc) for a Dell Laptop (Latitude D600) on > FC2 T3? I found several scripts on the net, but they mostly are for > patched 2.4 kernel, and do not work for me. > > Also: why don't we include some decent set of such scripts by default? I > know that ACPI can be tricky, and varies from one laptop to another - > but some things work rather reliably (such as blanking screen on lid > close), and others (suspend) could be included commented out. > > Sasha > > at least, we could include some commented out scripts > Checkout this page. It dont know if these scripts will work on your machine, but I think they can set you to the right direction. Hope they help ;) -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From efthym at gmx.net Wed May 5 00:46:17 2004 From: efthym at gmx.net (Efthym) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 20:46:17 -0400 Subject: acpi scripts In-Reply-To: References: <1083676311.2455.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 04 May 2004 20:44:20 -0400, Efthym wrote: > On Tue, 04 May 2004 09:11:51 -0400, Alexander Kirillov > wrote: > >> Can anyone point me to a working set of acpi scripts that would enable >> suspend-to-RAM and other useful things (dimming the screen when >> switvching to battery power, etc) for a Dell Laptop (Latitude D600) on >> FC2 T3? I found several scripts on the net, but they mostly are for >> patched 2.4 kernel, and do not work for me. >> >> Also: why don't we include some decent set of such scripts by default? I >> know that ACPI can be tricky, and varies from one laptop to another - >> but some things work rather reliably (such as blanking screen on lid >> close), and others (suspend) could be included commented out. >> >> Sasha >> >> at least, we could include some commented out scripts >> > > Checkout this page. It dont know if these scripts will work on your > machine, but I think they can set you to the right direction. Hope they > help ;) > > ...and here is the link as well http://ltswww.epfl.ch/~dsanta/resources/dell-i8500-linux -- Opera 7.50beta1 on FedoraCore2_Test3 From jbinpg at shaw.ca Wed May 5 00:55:26 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 17:55:26 -0700 Subject: Insufficient privileges with Firestarter In-Reply-To: <200405041419.09723.b.akins@verizon.net> References: <200405041419.09723.b.akins@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040505005526.GF21465@shaw.ca> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 02:19:09PM -0400, Olu Akins wrote: > I have FC2T3 installed with 2.6.5-1.327 and I have never had any problem > running firestarter from the icon. I just installed 2.6.5-1.349 and rebooted > and I get this message from both kernels when I click on the icon > "Insufficient privileges > You must have root user privileges to use Firestarted" > > I don't want to give the user root privileges and normally it ask for root > password when the icon is clicked. > > I can start Firestarter from the shell as su and I noticed it complains about > "FATAL: Module bsd_comp not found" > > any solution? Firestarter is hooked into the pam subsystem so it will prompt for root password when you click on the icon to start it. It needs root to be able to parse the system logs for packet hits and manipulate the iptables rules. As for the bsd_comp, it is only needed for ppp connections so I assume you are a ppp user. There has been some scuttlebutt about dropping bsd_comp from the latest kernel builds due to a possible license problem so maybe it just isn't there in the kernel anymore. You may or may not need bsd_comp so this may be a non-issue anyway. For a recent online treatise on the linux ppp stack, try: http://www.topology.org/linux/pppmod.html -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From ademko at shaw.ca Wed May 5 01:06:07 2004 From: ademko at shaw.ca (Aleksander Demko) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 20:06:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: gdm problems on f2t3/64bit Message-ID: gdm doesnt seem to want to respond to XDMCP queries, when the host is chosen from my main chooser/X server... ie. Xnest :5 -indirect somemachine_that_works_fine and then choose the F2 machine, i get a blank screen Xnest :5 -query the_f2_machine works fine Turning on gdb debugging, I get this in the logs: (is this a IPv6 thing? -- note I'm only using v4) May 4 20:04:18 spiderman64 gdm[7147]: gdm_xdmcp_decode: Received opcode QUERY from client ::ffff:172.16.35.142 May 4 20:04:18 spiderman64 gdm[7147]: gdm_xdmcp_handle_query: Opcode 2 from ::ffff:172.16.35.142 May 4 20:04:18 spiderman64 gdm[7147]: gdm_xdmcp_send_willing: Sending WILLING to ::ffff:172.16.35.142 May 4 20:04:25 spiderman64 gdm[7147]: gdm_xdmcp_decode: Received opcode FORWARD_QUERY from client ::ffff:172.16.35.142 May 4 20:04:25 spiderman64 gdm[7147]: gdm_xdmcp_handle_forward_query: Bad address May 4 20:04:27 spiderman64 gdm[7147]: gdm_xdmcp_decode: Received opcode FORWARD_QUERY from client ::ffff:172.16.35.142 May 4 20:04:27 spiderman64 gdm[7147]: gdm_xdmcp_handle_forward_query: Bad address May 4 20:04:31 spiderman64 gdm[7147]: gdm_xdmcp_decode: Received opcode FORWARD_QUERY from client ::ffff:172.16.35.142 May 4 20:04:31 spiderman64 gdm[7147]: gdm_xdmcp_handle_forward_query: Bad address -- // scopira.org | ninjacoder.com // From markf78 at yahoo.com Wed May 5 01:09:59 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 18:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 30 In-Reply-To: <20040505000029.3147A74D04@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040505010959.44142.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 02:54:27PM -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > p.s. does it bother anyone else that rsync does not follow the typical unix > syntax of "application dest src" and instead uses the described "application > src dest"? >>Hm, let us see: >>cp .... >>mv .... >>I wonder how this claimed "typical unix syntax" is really typical? >>If you have an option which allows to specify a target other than >>a default then this is not what you may think it is. (snip) sorry, i don't know what i was thinking.... forgive me. i meant to remark how annoying it is that most C macro functions (strcpy, etc.) and Unix functions like rsync have different syntax. i spend most of my time programming in C so i always get this simple thing confused... e.g. strcpy(dst, src) cp src, dst anyways, sorry for wasting everyone's time with this stupid remark... mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed May 5 01:36:19 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 21:36:19 -0400 Subject: Scanner Hotplug change In-Reply-To: <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40984513.5000209@insight.rr.com> I tested out the addition of the hotplug recognition to the change to sane-backends and think that this is easier than opening up a root terminal, locating which usb device is your scanner, then changing the file permissions on the usb device. The only drawbacks are that most people that will try out Fedora Core 2 will not realize that the device needs to be unplugged after you get control of the console. (GUI I presume, or is it the first terminal logged in?) Anyway, the scanner was 004 before unplugging it from the hub, then replugging it in, then clicking on the icon to launch xsane. Now it is recognized as 006. I think that this needed step should be added to the readme for the release. I am starting to see why this is such a problem. (All usb other devices are set to 644 and owned by root. So why would a USB device, such as a scanner be treated differently?) Jim -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43 May 4 20:53 /proc/bus/usb/001/001 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43 May 4 20:53 /proc/bus/usb/001/002 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 50 May 4 20:53 /proc/bus/usb/001/003 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 50 May 4 20:53 /proc/bus/usb/001/005 -rw------- 1 jim root 57 May 4 21:00 /proc/bus/usb/001/006 From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Wed May 5 01:49:36 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 20:49:36 -0500 Subject: HP Scanner Difficulties Message-ID: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> I am trying to get my multifunction HP psc 1210 to scan properly. Kudzu autodetected it, I have hpoj and hpijs installed and updated to most recent, yet sane is giving me a headache. I have tried the solutions listed above for the epson printer (change permission of /proc/bus/usb/003/002 and to mess around with /etc/sane.d/hp.conf) yet scanimage -L says no scanner found. /etc/sane.d is setup properly with hpoj uncommented at the end and sane-find-scanner gives: found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=0x2f11 [psc 1200 series]) at libusb:003:004 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 3 *x86_64* From gene.heskett at verizon.net Wed May 5 02:06:44 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 22:06:44 -0400 Subject: Status of /etc/modules.conf In-Reply-To: <200405041438.11532.b.akins@verizon.net> References: <200405041438.11532.b.akins@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200405042206.44083.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Tuesday 04 May 2004 14:38, Olu Akins wrote: >It was in FC2T2 but it cannot be found in FC2T3. I need to load some > modules and it is a pita to manually load them. > >One is usb-storage for the flash drive and the other is ndiswrapper > for wlan connection > Its been deprecated in favor of /etc/modprobe.conf, and the syntax is changed somewhat. There should be a mou=dules.cong2modprobe.conf utility there someplace to convert your old file if you still have a backup. You do run amanda don't you? >Thanks >Olu -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 5 02:32:04 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 21:32:04 -0500 Subject: HP Scanner Difficulties In-Reply-To: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> References: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <40985224.9050502@earthlink.net> Jason Knight wrote: > I am trying to get my multifunction HP psc 1210 to scan properly. > Kudzu autodetected it, I have hpoj and hpijs installed and updated to > most recent, yet sane is giving me a headache. I have tried the > solutions listed above for the epson printer (change permission of > /proc/bus/usb/003/002 and to mess around with /etc/sane.d/hp.conf) yet > scanimage -L says no scanner found. /etc/sane.d is setup properly with > hpoj uncommented at the end and sane-find-scanner gives: > > found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=0x2f11 [psc > 1200 series]) at libusb:003:004 > # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be > supported by > # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. > One thing I notice is that your scanner should be using the file /proc/bus/usb/003/004, so change the permission of that file: chmod a+w /proc/bus/usb/003/004 Have you updated to sane-backends-1.0.13-6 from ftp://people.redhat.com/twaugh/tmp/sane-backends/ ? After that package is updated, you will find a file /etc/usb/libsane.usermap which will contain the correct information for you to update the /etc/sane.d/hp.conf properly. The entry in that file should be of the form usb 0x____ 0x____. If you don't understand some of this, ask again. Gerry Tool From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Wed May 5 02:47:05 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 22:47:05 -0400 Subject: Kudzu causes lockups .. latest updates Message-ID: <409855A9.7010304@insight.rr.com> I just rebooted after updating to today's development changes. I could not bootup in either runlevel 3 or 5 with either kernel-2.6.5-1.327 or kernel-2.6.5-1.349. I could boot to runlevel 1 with either kernel version. Anyway, I ran "chkconfig --level 3 kudzu off" and then booted into runlevel 3. I am running kernel 2.6.5-1.349 and it seems to work alright. Getting past "checking hardware" is a little hard to figure out for me anyway. I'll try to run kudzu -p in a terminal and see what is up later. Jim I have kudzu-1.1.58-1 installed. From b.akins at verizon.net Wed May 5 02:57:06 2004 From: b.akins at verizon.net (Olu Akins) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 22:57:06 -0400 Subject: Status of /etc/modules.conf In-Reply-To: <200405042206.44083.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200405041438.11532.b.akins@verizon.net> <200405042206.44083.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200405042257.07152.b.akins@verizon.net> On Tuesday 04 May 2004 10:06 pm, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 04 May 2004 14:38, Olu Akins wrote: > >It was in FC2T2 but it cannot be found in FC2T3. I need to load some > > modules and it is a pita to manually load them. > > > >One is usb-storage for the flash drive and the other is ndiswrapper > > for wlan connection > > Its been deprecated in favor of /etc/modprobe.conf, and the syntax is > changed somewhat. There should be a mou=dules.cong2modprobe.conf > utility there someplace to convert your old file if you still have a > backup. > > You do run amanda don't you? > > >Thanks > >Olu > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly > Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message > by Gene Heskett are: > Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. Okay, but how do I automatically install a module without having to do it manually? I was thinking about adding this to /etc/modprobe.conf ndiswrapper /sbin/modprobe instead of doing modprobe ndiswrapper at the shell prompt Olu From b.akins at verizon.net Wed May 5 03:06:27 2004 From: b.akins at verizon.net (Olu Akins) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 23:06:27 -0400 Subject: Insufficient privileges with Firestarter In-Reply-To: <20040505005526.GF21465@shaw.ca> References: <200405041419.09723.b.akins@verizon.net> <20040505005526.GF21465@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <200405042306.27315.b.akins@verizon.net> On Tuesday 04 May 2004 08:55 pm, Jack Bowling wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 02:19:09PM -0400, Olu Akins wrote: > > I have FC2T3 installed with 2.6.5-1.327 and I have never had any problem > > running firestarter from the icon. I just installed 2.6.5-1.349 and > > rebooted and I get this message from both kernels when I click on the > > icon "Insufficient privileges > > You must have root user privileges to use Firestarted" > > > > I don't want to give the user root privileges and normally it ask for > > root password when the icon is clicked. > > > > I can start Firestarter from the shell as su and I noticed it complains > > about "FATAL: Module bsd_comp not found" > > > > any solution? > > Firestarter is hooked into the pam subsystem so it will prompt for root > password when you click on the icon to start it. It needs root to be able > to parse the system logs for packet hits and manipulate the iptables rules. > > As for the bsd_comp, it is only needed for ppp connections so I assume you > are a ppp user. There has been some scuttlebutt about dropping bsd_comp > from the latest kernel builds due to a possible license problem so maybe it > just isn't there in the kernel anymore. You may or may not need bsd_comp so > this may be a non-issue anyway. > > For a recent online treatise on the linux ppp stack, try: > > http://www.topology.org/linux/pppmod.html > > -- > Jack Bowling > mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca I understand that but, instead of prompting for root's password, like it always does till today, I get "Insufficient privileges You must have root user privileges to use Firestarter" I don't want to give the user, root privilege Olu From joshg at brainstorminternet.net Wed May 5 03:04:29 2004 From: joshg at brainstorminternet.net (Joshua Adam Ginsberg) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 21:04:29 -0600 Subject: Gnome Keyring not working? Message-ID: <1083726269.1424.2.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> Hello -- I've been trying to experiment with the improved VFS of Gnome and Nautilus in FC2T3, but I can't seem to get the Gnome Keyring to do, well, anything. I open an SFTP resource through Nautilus and it asks me for the password and how/if I want to save that password. When I close that window and reaccess it, I'm prompted once more to provide the username and password and how/if I want to save it. If I open a document from that SFTP resource by double-clicking, I am prompted not once, but twice, for the password. And again, no clicking of the checkboxes seems to make a difference. I can see that the gnome-keyring-daemon is running in the background, but I'm skeptical it's doing anything. Any further ways I can troubleshoot this? Thanks! -jag -- Joshua Adam Ginsberg Network Department, Brainstorm Internet From joshg at brainstorminternet.net Wed May 5 03:16:02 2004 From: joshg at brainstorminternet.net (Joshua Adam Ginsberg) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 21:16:02 -0600 Subject: Invalid context? Message-ID: <1083726961.1424.6.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> Hello -- I must admit I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to SELinux, but every time I try to install a package, I get about a hundred lines of "/etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context foo on line number ###" with foo and ### different on each line. From reading the archives, I gather I can boot with selinux=0 to avert the problem, but I also gather that wouldn't be desirable. This is a brand, spankin' new installation of FC2T3, so I'm wondering if I've done something wrong or are doing something wrong. Thanks! -jag -- Joshua Adam Ginsberg Network Department, Brainstorm Internet From aoliva at redhat.com Wed May 5 03:29:00 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 05 May 2004 00:29:00 -0300 Subject: FC2 Test 3 doesn't start PCMCIA NIC In-Reply-To: <200405020121.13978.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <200405020121.13978.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: On May 2, 2004, ByteEnable wrote: > I have an older PIII Dell Latitude that works fine with FC1. With > FC2 Test 3, it will not start the PCMCIA NIC (PCNET_CS). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116205 -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Wed May 5 03:31:41 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 05 May 2004 00:31:41 -0300 Subject: Touch pad on Dell i8100 no longer tap pad for mouse click In-Reply-To: <4095336D.6090009@gulik.org> References: <4095336D.6090009@gulik.org> Message-ID: On May 2, 2004, Gregory Gulik wrote: > I know this used to work on FC1 but under FC2T3 I can no longer give a > quick tap to the track pad as an alternate way to click mouse button 1. > Is there a setting that changed or is this a bug? Nope. This is even in bugzilla. We're missing a package named `synaptics', that apparently isn't going to make it to FC2 :-( There was a posting about it to this list just a few hours before you posted your question, followed by a reply with a pointer to a working package. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From b.akins at verizon.net Wed May 5 03:40:55 2004 From: b.akins at verizon.net (Olu Akins) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 23:40:55 -0400 Subject: Touch pad on Dell i8100 no longer tap pad for mouse click In-Reply-To: References: <4095336D.6090009@gulik.org> Message-ID: <200405042340.55563.b.akins@verizon.net> On Tuesday 04 May 2004 11:31 pm, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On May 2, 2004, Gregory Gulik wrote: > > I know this used to work on FC1 but under FC2T3 I can no longer give a > > quick tap to the track pad as an alternate way to click mouse button 1. > > > > Is there a setting that changed or is this a bug? > > Nope. This is even in bugzilla. We're missing a package named > `synaptics', that apparently isn't going to make it to FC2 :-( > > There was a posting about it to this list just a few hours before you > posted your question, followed by a reply with a pointer to a working > package. > > -- > Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ > Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} > Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} search the mailing list for "synaptics", Paul Bender provided a link to a website with the synaptics touchpad and it works. Olu From aoliva at redhat.com Wed May 5 03:42:28 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 05 May 2004 00:42:28 -0300 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: On May 4, 2004, "D. D. Brierton" wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 21:13, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: >> http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC1-firewire/0README > Aha! Thank you for pointing this out to me. So FireWire support was > removed from the installer at the last minute Err... Nope. It just never made it to the installer. The situation with FC2 is a bit trickier, because the kernel ships without working firewire drivers. My plan is to roll out updated boot.iso images with 2.6.3ish firewire drivers, that work for me, and then people will hopefully be able to use them just like they've used my FC1-firewire stuff. If there's room for some more hoping :-), maybe we're lucky and the current firewire problems in the mainline kernel will get fixed and we'll be able to roll out kernel updates with it enabled... -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Wed May 5 03:46:17 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 05 May 2004 00:46:17 -0300 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040504185342.95905.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040504185342.95905.qmail@web11408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On May 4, 2004, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > btw, i read somewhere that FC2 will be shipping with a 2.6.6-* kernel. i've > been following the changelog on kernel.org and i've noticed a lot of ieee1394 > fixes so i'm optimistic FC2 and firewire will be working as intended upon > shipping. I'm not that optimistic. I've been tracking the linux1394 SVN tree, and the latest release is still broken. Certainly not as broken as it was in 2.6.5, but there's still some race condition in there that causes firewire disk to turn belly up just while you most need them :-/ > NB. be sure to "/sbin/chkconfig kudzu off" otherwise the setup will kernel > panic at boot. I've heard about such myths, but I find it hard to believe them. If it's kudzu that causes the hang, it's long past the end of the kernel boot. If it's kudzu that hangs the machine, the solution is to have the following lines in your /etc/modprobe.conf: alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 alias scsi_hostadapter sbp2 This prevents kudzu from attempting to probe for the ohci1394 module and then unload it, the latter of which causes a system hang. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From joshg at brainstorminternet.net Wed May 5 04:23:55 2004 From: joshg at brainstorminternet.net (Joshua Adam Ginsberg) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 22:23:55 -0600 Subject: Gnome Keyring not working? Message-ID: <1083731035.17422.3.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> Okay. Now it's *really* not working. I'm not sure exactly what I did, but now when I try to connect to an SFTP resource, nothing happens. The "Do you want to cancel opening this thing?" window pops up and then "The action associated with sftp:foo.bar.com is invalid" pops up asking me to associate a new action. Please help. I really loved being able to play songs in Rhythmbox over sftp. -jag -- Joshua Adam Ginsberg Network Operations -- Brainstorm Internet From markf78 at yahoo.com Wed May 5 04:39:48 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040505043948.89278.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Alexandre & others- > > NB. be sure to "/sbin/chkconfig kudzu off" otherwise the setup will kernel > > panic at boot. > > I've heard about such myths, but I find it hard to believe them. If > it's kudzu that causes the hang, it's long past the end of the kernel > boot. If it's kudzu that hangs the machine, the solution is to have > the following lines in your /etc/modprobe.conf: > > alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 > alias scsi_hostadapter sbp2 > > This prevents kudzu from attempting to probe for the ohci1394 module > and then unload it, the latter of which causes a system hang. you bring up a good point that i forgot to mention. i actually have those two lines in my /etc/modprobe.conf already. i understand your skepticism about /sbin/chkconfig kudzu off but there was orginally a bug in kudzu that caused a kernel panic if kudzu was on with/without the above lines. see http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118202 however, i just checked and it seems the kernel panic bug has been fixed... /sbin/chkconfig kudzu off is no longer necessary. i tested this by booting with /sbin/chkconfig kudzu on. but seriously, at one time, i could reproduce this condition every single time with kudzu on (as did others). so, i'm going to revise my ealier recommendations about how to get firewire to work great under FC2 test3: [root at markf78 home]# rpm -q fedora-release initscripts SysVinit kernel kudzu fedora-release-1.92-1 initscripts-7.50-1 SysVinit-2.85-25 kernel-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1 kudzu-1.1.58-1 and add the following lines to /etc/modprobe.conf (thanks for the reminder, should have pointed this out earlier): alias scsi-hostadapter sbp2 alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From fedora at andrewfarris.com Wed May 5 05:25:29 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 22:25:29 -0700 Subject: Epiphany Version In-Reply-To: <1083717546.4068.15.camel@devel.mpeters.us> References: <35579.192.26.212.72.1083692262.squirrel@webmail.personainternet.com> <1083694823.22380.11.camel@CirithUngol> <1083705233.4068.3.camel@devel.mpeters.us> <1083707718.4068.5.camel@devel.mpeters.us> <1083717546.4068.15.camel@devel.mpeters.us> Message-ID: <1083734729.26781.5.camel@CirithUngol> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 17:39 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > Setting the preferred text editor to gEdit does work - I think (and this > can be fixed before core2 release) that that should be done, OO.o should > not be what is used for the default text editor if the user has not > specified a preferred text editor. OO.o as the default text editor is not good (serious overkill). If that is a clean install of test 3 so that you know the default did get set to OO.o then you should probably file a bug on that. > That being said - I think updating to a stable epiphany rather than > development is a good idea. Probably, but it may be too late already because adequate testing time no longer exists. > Since nothing else in Fedora depends upon anything epiphany provides - > can it be updated to a _stable_ version before core2 release? File an RFE bug against epiphany asap, but expect the changes to be post-release back-ported rather than 'blanket' upgraded. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed May 5 05:30:45 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 01:30:45 -0400 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <20040504192310.GP9828@redhat.com> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> <4097BCBA.2080008@earthlink.net> <20040504155936.GO9828@redhat.com> <4097DB4B.80306@BitWagon.com> <20040504192310.GP9828@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083735044.4271.7.camel@family> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 20:23 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > A hotplug event a log-in (and after pam_console has done its stuff) > seems to be what's needed, yes. > IMO setting ownership to who's at the console is not the correct paradigm. In many cases the scanner is a shared resource ... like a printer. Consider: http://www.sane-project.org/man/saned.1.html IMO the best solution for now is to set the device permissions to be world read/write. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed May 5 05:34:04 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 01:34:04 -0400 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <1083735044.4271.7.camel@family> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> <4097BCBA.2080008@earthlink.net> <20040504155936.GO9828@redhat.com> <4097DB4B.80306@BitWagon.com> <20040504192310.GP9828@redhat.com> <1083735044.4271.7.camel@family> Message-ID: <1083735243.30323.12.camel@binkley> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 01:30 -0400, Sandy Pond wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 20:23 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > > A hotplug event a log-in (and after pam_console has done its stuff) > > seems to be what's needed, yes. > > > > IMO setting ownership to who's at the console is not the correct > paradigm. In many cases the scanner is a shared resource ... like a > printer. Consider: > > http://www.sane-project.org/man/saned.1.html > > IMO the best solution for now is to set the device permissions to be > world read/write. umm, cmon - the use of the scanner as a shared resource is a MUCH rarer case than the person at the desktop being the person using the device. you have to admit the shared resource is a less common use. -sv From essam_mohsin at hotmail.com Wed May 5 08:22:42 2004 From: essam_mohsin at hotmail.com (Essam Mohsin) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:22:42 +0300 Subject: New Kernel Slow Boot Message-ID: Hi : I run Fedora Core2 Test3 on a PC " Intel PIV 1.GHz , 512 MB RAM , IDE HDD 10GB , nVidia Riva TNT2 VGA , 3Com 3C905 Network Card " . 1- Yesterday I ran "up2date" to fully update my system . now the kernel was upgraded from 2.6.5-1.327 to 2.6.5-1.349 . the update modified the grub.conf file and put the default = 1 . now when I reboot the PC the grub initial screen comes with the old kernel highlighted and boot it after 10 seconds . when I manually changed the default = 2 it boots with the new kernel but the screen shows very little details " only that the kernel image decompressed then it will pause for 10 seconds or more then the GUI screen comes . I never noticed such thing with previous versions of Linux Kernel 2.4.xx ---> 2.6.5-1.327 . The boot messages are very vital and shows a lot of useful info about hardware which are suppressed in the latest kernel . How to make the kernel to display the messages as usual ?? 2- in the GUI initial login screen the default session type is Gnome , how to make it to KDE 3.2.2 Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From twaugh at redhat.com Wed May 5 08:49:57 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:49:57 +0100 Subject: HP Scanner Difficulties In-Reply-To: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> References: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040505084957.GT9828@redhat.com> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 08:49:36PM -0500, Jason Knight wrote: > I am trying to get my multifunction HP psc 1210 to scan properly. > Kudzu autodetected it, I have hpoj and hpijs installed and updated to > most recent, yet sane is giving me a headache. I have tried the > solutions listed above for the epson printer (change permission of > /proc/bus/usb/003/002 and to mess around with /etc/sane.d/hp.conf) yet > scanimage -L says no scanner found. /etc/sane.d is setup properly with > hpoj uncommented at the end and sane-find-scanner gives: > > found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=0x2f11 [psc > 1200 series]) at libusb:003:004 > # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be > supported by > # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. For PSC devices you should install libsane-hpoj -- my multifunction scanner is working very well here and has been since FC1. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mike at netlyncs.com Wed May 5 08:57:11 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 03:57:11 -0500 Subject: Webalizer + two domains Message-ID: <1083747431.2526.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Is there a way to use webalizer, or configure it, to monitor two domains on a box instead of just the total? As in right now, I have both my domains pointing to one access/error log (/var/log/httpd/access_log), but would rather them point to their own and have webalizer monitor both. What I mean by both, as in maybe two sites for both such as www.mydomain.com/usage/mydomain.html and www.mydomain2.com/usage/mydomain2.html or something similar? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From gasi3 at web.de Wed May 5 09:07:45 2004 From: gasi3 at web.de (Herbert Gasiorowski) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 11:07:45 +0200 Subject: autofs and yp/ldap map changes Message-ID: <4098AEE1.3090306@web.de> If both yp and ldap automounter maps are changed, the FC2T3 automounter will not recognize the change unless he receives a HUP signal. With FC1 at least yp map changes are accepted immediately without any intervention on the client hosts! I am afraid it is a feature? (And the feature --ghost will not work: only mounted maps are shown in the yp-map directory) -- mfg Herbert Gasiorowski http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gasi/ From stlecho at yahoo.com Wed May 5 09:18:57 2004 From: stlecho at yahoo.com (Stefan Lecho) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 02:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD - Solved In-Reply-To: <20040502185904.GA18844@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040505091857.4646.qmail@web60004.mail.yahoo.com> Apparantly the checksums of the downloaded iso images did not correspond to the ones in the MD5SUM file. Redownloading the images resolved the 'no fedora core cd' - problem. --- Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 11:12:59AM -0700, Stefan > Lecho wrote: > > > Someone broke the handling of machines without > PCI > > between test2 and test3. > > > > My machine is only 3 months old and contains - > > verified with AIDA - 5 PCI slots. > > Your problem appears different - I dont know why > your CD is not being > found, but the bug you found with pci=off I do > understand and it is > that I was talking about > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From mr700 at globalnet.bg Wed May 5 09:34:49 2004 From: mr700 at globalnet.bg (Doncho N. Gunchev) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 12:34:49 +0300 Subject: mc (was Re: Removing gftp-text) In-Reply-To: <2414.12.29.16.103.1082118355.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <407ED311.9040201@togami.com> <200404161334.52074@-mr700> <2414.12.29.16.103.1082118355.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <200405051234.49735@-mr700> On Friday 16 April 2004 15:25, William Hooper wrote: > > Doncho N. Gunchev said: > [snip] > > Midnight Command (mc) does the same job in text mode gftp-gtk does in > > graphic mode for me (I wonder why mc is not included by default in any > > installation mode, a bit buggy but verry easy to use for newbies). > > Did mc ever get UTF-8 aware? > > -- > William Hooper I saw this link ( http://www.suse.de/~nadvornik/mc.html ) from Vladimir Nadvornik in the mail list. I had no time to see what's there, but I hope I'll see mc with UTF-8 support soon... MC developers last time I remember did not like the idea... maybe this time. You can check: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc-devel/2004-May/msg00001.html -- Regards, Doncho N. Gunchev Registered Linux User #291323 at counter.li.org GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/DA454F79 Key fingerprint = 684F 688B C508 C609 0371 5E0F A089 CB15 DA45 4F79 From fedora at warmcat.com Wed May 5 10:01:35 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:01:35 +0100 Subject: Klaptop Performance Profile (cpuspeed) broken? Message-ID: <200405051101.38999.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks - After the last updates, seem unable to change the performance profile using the Klaptop tray applet (this is the one that shows battery level in the tray). The Userspace option is selected in the menu, if I click on Performance, it remains at ~300MHz. Before Kernel 349 this worked okay. Going kill -USR1 forced it up to 3GHz alright. Anyone else? - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAmLuCjKeDCxMJCTIRAvbsAJ0XGkI2k2GZXw0ghjXhkQ+0bWe0XQCglStC Ft8Z+06f+MmPpl/xodJr9/w= =y4L2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fedora at warmcat.com Wed May 5 10:12:02 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:12:02 +0100 Subject: Klaptop Performance Profile (cpuspeed) NOT broken In-Reply-To: <200405051101.38999.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <200405051101.38999.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <200405051112.02255.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 05 May 2004 11:01, Andy Green wrote: > Hi folks - > > After the last updates, seem unable to change the performance profile using > the Klaptop tray applet (this is the one that shows battery level in the Gah, it seems that after updating kdebase yesterday, you have to rerun the "ACPI Config Setup Helper Application". - right-click Klaptop - select configure - use the top-right buttons to select ACPI Config - click Setup Helper Application - experience concern at the warning that /usr/bin/klaptop_acpi_helper has a different size and checksum than when it was compiled (prelink? Hacked by Chinese?) - click continue anyway - Continue at the next dialog - enter root password After this the menu will work. It should be greyed out in the tray icon if it cannot function. Another small but over time irritating beef with KDE is I have to keep destroying - artsd - just gets in the way - Kaboodle - useless - Noatun - useless every time I update (certain?) KDE packages. They reclaim first dibs on .mpg, etc when I actually set up mplayer to have them. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAmL3yjKeDCxMJCTIRApXCAKCBHeh74hWasxPDLSa/iqILLnJRZgCfZb7b sp4sx9CVlw3QiVaSWpKSCoU= =ckFb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed May 5 10:25:39 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 05:25:39 -0500 Subject: HP Scanner Difficulties In-Reply-To: <20040505084957.GT9828@redhat.com> References: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> <20040505084957.GT9828@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4098C123.4060307@sbcglobal.net> Tim Waugh wrote: >On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 08:49:36PM -0500, Jason Knight wrote: > > > >> I am trying to get my multifunction HP psc 1210 to scan properly. >>Kudzu autodetected it, I have hpoj and hpijs installed and updated to >>most recent, yet sane is giving me a headache. I have tried the >>solutions listed above for the epson printer (change permission of >>/proc/bus/usb/003/002 and to mess around with /etc/sane.d/hp.conf) yet >>scanimage -L says no scanner found. /etc/sane.d is setup properly with >>hpoj uncommented at the end and sane-find-scanner gives: >> >>found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=0x2f11 [psc >>1200 series]) at libusb:003:004 >> # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be >>supported by >> # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. >> >> > >For PSC devices you should install libsane-hpoj -- my multifunction >scanner is working very well here and has been since FC1. > >Tim. >*/ > > Does anyone know if there are any working drivers for the HP4200C out yet? Jim Tate From abraxis at metroweb.co.za Wed May 5 10:30:47 2004 From: abraxis at metroweb.co.za (Neil Thompson) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 12:30:47 +0200 Subject: Funnies with gnome and X on 1.92 Message-ID: <20040505103047.GC4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> Hi all, Is anyone else having an interesting time with Gnome/xorg? I'm having a couple of regular, but intermittant problems - . a total freeze (normally after moving the mouse) I have to then reboot the box, this gives an error message in /var/log/messages gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 I see no other messages in the gdm or X logs . gnome-session-save intermittantly doesn't work and freezes X to duplicate this, start up a terminal and open up a bunch of tabbed sessions inside it. Type gnome-session-save and bang! These are on two different boxen with different display cards. Are these worth a bugzilla? Cheers! (Relax...have a homebrew) Neil From alan at redhat.com Wed May 5 10:47:16 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 06:47:16 -0400 Subject: Funnies with gnome and X on 1.92 In-Reply-To: <20040505103047.GC4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> References: <20040505103047.GC4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> Message-ID: <20040505104716.GA6381@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 12:30:47PM +0200, Neil Thompson wrote: > Is anyone else having an interesting time with Gnome/xorg? I'm > having a couple of regular, but intermittant problems - The newest kernels have fixed several ugly DRI bugs that might be relevant especially on intel i8xx hardware From abraxis at metroweb.co.za Wed May 5 10:58:01 2004 From: abraxis at metroweb.co.za (Neil Thompson) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 12:58:01 +0200 Subject: Funnies with gnome and X on 1.92 In-Reply-To: <20040505104716.GA6381@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040505103047.GC4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> <20040505104716.GA6381@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040505105801.GD4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 06:47:16AM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 12:30:47PM +0200, Neil Thompson wrote: > > Is anyone else having an interesting time with Gnome/xorg? I'm > > having a couple of regular, but intermittant problems - > > The newest kernels have fixed several ugly DRI bugs that might be > relevant especially on intel i8xx hardware I'm on 2.6.5-1.349. One of the boxes is an intel (Dell GX270), the other is a homebrew box with a Radeon 9200SE in an AGP8X slot. Cheers! (Relax...have a homebrew) Neil From janderdepeich at yahoo.com Wed May 5 11:00:51 2004 From: janderdepeich at yahoo.com (misteer landos) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 04:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FCT3 - Hangs when installing from CD Message-ID: <20040505110051.84933.qmail@web50505.mail.yahoo.com> I had this same problem, on an Asus P4C800 and Fedora Core 1, (the CD wouldn't boot). I had been using FC1 with no problems till I upgraded the bios to version 1014. The only way I could find to solve it was to patch the bios back to version 1011. At the time I did that, version 1014 was the latest one, so I can't tell whether versions 1015 or 1016 will work. Also, whether this is a bios fault or a kernel one... I have no clue. Hope this solves it for you ;) >I'm also seeing the problem Eric describes, (same MB), >but not only did >FC1 work, FC2T2 worked as well. So something recent >must have broken. > >Is there extra info I can send to help track down the >problem ? > >>Eric Beyer said: >>attempted to install >> it for the last couple of hours but haven't had any luck so far. I am >> running into an issue where it is hanging right after the message >> "Uncompressing Linux... ok, booting the kernel". >From there on out the >> cursor just flashes on the left side of the screen and my system is hung, >> it requires a hard reset to reboot. >> >> My configuration is as follows: >> ASUS P4P800 Motherboard >> P4 2.6GHz (HyperThreading Enabled) >> 512 MB PC2700 RAM >> 120 GB SATA drive (set as first drive) >> 40 GB ATA/100 (PATA) >> Plextor 8/4/32 CDRW (master on secondary) >> Pioneer DVD ROM (slave) > > >P.S Sorry for the top post. > >-- >John Pullan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From jmp at tarantella.com Wed May 5 11:10:23 2004 From: jmp at tarantella.com (John Pullan) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 12:10:23 +0100 Subject: FCT3 - Hangs when installing from CD In-Reply-To: <20040505110051.84933.qmail@web50505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040505110051.84933.qmail@web50505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1083755423.1759.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 12:00, misteer landos wrote: > I had this same problem, on an Asus P4C800 and Fedora > Core 1, (the CD wouldn't boot). > > I had been using FC1 with no problems till I upgraded > the bios to version 1014. The only way I could find to > solve it was to patch the bios back to version 1011. > At the time I did that, version 1014 was the latest > one, so I can't tell whether versions 1015 or 1016 > will work. Also, whether this is a bios fault or a > kernel one... I have no clue. > > Hope this solves it for you ;) > Hmm, Well I started out with bios version 1010 and then upgraded to 1016 and still had the problem. > > >I'm also seeing the problem Eric describes, (same > MB), >but not only did > >FC1 work, FC2T2 worked as well. So something recent > >must have broken. > > > >Is there extra info I can send to help track down the > >problem ? > > > >>Eric Beyer said: > >>attempted to install > >> it for the last couple of hours but haven't had any > luck so far. I am > >> running into an issue where it is hanging right > after the message > >> "Uncompressing Linux... ok, booting the kernel". > >From there on out the > >> cursor just flashes on the left side of the screen > and my system is hung, > >> it requires a hard reset to reboot. > >> > >> My configuration is as follows: > >> ASUS P4P800 Motherboard > >> P4 2.6GHz (HyperThreading Enabled) > >> 512 MB PC2700 RAM > >> 120 GB SATA drive (set as first drive) > >> 40 GB ATA/100 (PATA) > >> Plextor 8/4/32 CDRW (master on secondary) > >> Pioneer DVD ROM (slave) > > > > > >P.S Sorry for the top post. > > > >-- > >John Pullan > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover -- John Pullan From sandy_pond at myrealbox.com Wed May 5 12:13:51 2004 From: sandy_pond at myrealbox.com (Sandy Pond) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 08:13:51 -0400 Subject: Scanner Frustration In-Reply-To: <1083735243.30323.12.camel@binkley> References: <4096564E.8010005@earthlink.net> <4096C650.8090707@insight.rr.com> <4096F93D.4060800@earthlink.net> <4096FC72.2060104@insight.rr.com> <1083671094.5382.2.camel@family> <20040504133557.GN9828@redhat.com> <4097BCBA.2080008@earthlink.net> <20040504155936.GO9828@redhat.com> <4097DB4B.80306@BitWagon.com> <20040504192310.GP9828@redhat.com> <1083735044.4271.7.camel@family> <1083735243.30323.12.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1083759231.3890.10.camel@family> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 01:34 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 01:30 -0400, Sandy Pond wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 20:23 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > > > A hotplug event a log-in (and after pam_console has done its stuff) > > > seems to be what's needed, yes. > > > > > > > IMO setting ownership to who's at the console is not the correct > > paradigm. In many cases the scanner is a shared resource ... like a > > printer. Consider: > > > > http://www.sane-project.org/man/saned.1.html > > > > IMO the best solution for now is to set the device permissions to be > > world read/write. > > umm, cmon - the use of the scanner as a shared resource is a MUCH rarer > case than the person at the desktop being the person using the device. > you have to admit the shared resource is a less common use. > Not rare at all in my experience. I setup saned/sane-net as the default when installing a scanner ... even for local access (127.0.0.1). This is almost a must in a company setting, as your not going to buy a scanner with a sheet feeder for every employee. Additionally this type of setup would be a lot more common if there was a good system-config-sane. :) From dave at webaugur.com Wed May 5 12:32:47 2004 From: dave at webaugur.com (David L Norris) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 07:32:47 -0500 Subject: HP 4200 In-Reply-To: <4098C123.4060307@sbcglobal.net> References: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> <20040505084957.GT9828@redhat.com> <4098C123.4060307@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1083760367.21777.129.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 05:25, jim tate wrote: > Does anyone know if there are any working drivers for the HP4200C > out yet? Google says: it looks like someone took the time to write a mostly functional HP4200 driver 4 years ago. And posted a note 6 months ago about getting it included in SANE but never made the needed corrections as far as I see. You're probably not going to find it in Fedora Core until it's in SANE. Unless someone (fixes it and) packages it separately. Here's the driver project: http://hp4200-backend.sourceforge.net/ A list of problems that needed to be fixed: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2003-December/009689.html So, I'd say bug the author of that driver and see if he'll get it working. Looks like a weekend project for someone with sufficient programming skill and a HP 4200C. Otherwise, new scanner? SANE-supported USB scanners of that age appear to be quite abundant and very cheap. I got a used Microtek Slimscan C6 USB for $10US at a local computer shop. They were essentially using it as a door stop. The antialiasing is poor below 600dpi otherwise it seems typical for a 4 year old scanner. -- David Norris http://www.webaugur.com/dave/ ICQ - 412039 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed May 5 12:39:51 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 08:39:51 -0400 Subject: Funnies with gnome and X on 1.92 In-Reply-To: <20040505105801.GD4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> References: <20040505103047.GC4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> <20040505104716.GA6381@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040505105801.GD4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> Message-ID: <1083760790.2113.80.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 06:58, Neil Thompson wrote: > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 06:47:16AM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 12:30:47PM +0200, Neil Thompson wrote: > > > Is anyone else having an interesting time with Gnome/xorg? I'm > > > having a couple of regular, but intermittant problems - > > > > The newest kernels have fixed several ugly DRI bugs that might be > > relevant especially on intel i8xx hardware > > I'm on 2.6.5-1.349. One of the boxes is an intel (Dell GX270), the other > is a homebrew box with a Radeon 9200SE in an AGP8X slot. > > > Cheers! (Relax...have a homebrew) > > Neil Had a system lockup late last night (homebrew Athlon 1GHz on Abit KT7A-RAID, ATI All-in-wonder 8500 - far behind yours :-) after upgrading to latest kernel, but before rebooting, when attempting Ctrl-Alt-F1 to change from X to a VC. Screen turned gray and no response from keyboard/mouse, including Ctrl-Alt-Fx, Ctrl-Alt-Bksp, Ctrl-Alt-Del. Hit the power and went to bed so didn't look at logs. Phil From christian at j-son.org Wed May 5 12:44:54 2004 From: christian at j-son.org (Christian Joensson) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 14:44:54 +0200 Subject: [FC2T3] Sound card failure CS4236B Message-ID: <20040505124453.GA21634@pentium3.j-son.org> This is on a Fedora Core 2, test 3, system running linux kernel 2.6.5-1.327smp. I cannot get the isapnp: Card 'CS4236B' to work... Any hint on where to go? Attached is the dmesg output. Note that I started with acpi=off to get going with smp... Any help is greatly appreciated. Cheers, /ChJ -------------- next part -------------- Linux version 2.6.5-1.327smp (bhcompile at bugs.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-7)) #1 SMP Sun Apr 18 05:15:53 EDT 2004 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001fffe000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000001fffe000 - 0000000020000000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec10000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee10000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffe00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 511MB LOWMEM available. ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled. found SMP MP-table at 000fe710 On node 0 totalpages: 131070 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 126974 pages, LIFO batch:16 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.2 present. Using APIC driver default Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.4 Virtual Wire compatibility mode. OEM ID: DELL Product ID: WS 610 APIC at: 0xFEE00000 Processor #0 6:7 APIC version 17 Processor #1 6:7 APIC version 17 I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC00000. Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs Processors: 2 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet acpi=off mapped 4G/4G trampoline to fffeb000. Initializing CPU#0 CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=023cf000 soft=023af000 PID hash table entries: 2048 (order 11: 16384 bytes) Detected 547.316 MHz processor. Using tsc for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Memory: 514104k/524280k available (1804k kernel code, 9420k reserved, 708k data, 184k init, 0k highmem) Calibrating delay loop... 1077.24 BogoMIPS Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. Failure registering capabilities with the kernel selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Capability LSM initialized Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd Freeing initrd memory: 311k freed CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 512K CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000040 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX CPU0: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 03 per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 1462.36 usecs. task migration cache decay timeout: 2 msecs. enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector: 00000040 ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000 Booting processor 1/1 eip 2000 CPU 1 irqstacks, hard=023d0000 soft=023b0000 Initializing CPU#1 masked ExtINT on CPU#1 ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000 ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000 Calibrating delay loop... 1089.53 BogoMIPS CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 512K CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000040 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1. CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 03 Total of 2 processors activated (2166.78 BogoMIPS). ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs Setting 2 in the phys_id_present_map ...changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 2 ... ok. init IO_APIC IRQs IO-APIC (apicid-pin) 2-0, 2-13, 2-20, 2-21, 2-22, 2-23 not connected. ..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=0 number of MP IRQ sources: 41. number of IO-APIC #2 registers: 24. testing the IO APIC....................... IO APIC #2...... .... register #00: 02000000 ....... : physical APIC id: 02 ....... : Delivery Type: 0 ....... : LTS : 0 .... register #01: 00170011 ....... : max redirection entries: 0017 ....... : PRQ implemented: 0 ....... : IO APIC version: 0011 .... register #02: 00000000 ....... : arbitration: 00 .... IRQ redirection table: NR Log Phy Mask Trig IRR Pol Stat Dest Deli Vect: 00 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 01 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 39 02 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 31 03 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 41 04 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 49 05 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 51 06 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 59 07 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 61 08 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 69 09 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 71 0a 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 79 0b 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 81 0c 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 89 0d 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0e 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 91 0f 001 01 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 99 10 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 A1 11 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 A9 12 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 B1 13 001 01 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 B9 14 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 15 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 16 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 17 000 00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 IRQ to pin mappings: IRQ0 -> 0:2 IRQ1 -> 0:1 IRQ3 -> 0:3 IRQ4 -> 0:4 IRQ5 -> 0:5 IRQ6 -> 0:6 IRQ7 -> 0:7 IRQ8 -> 0:8 IRQ9 -> 0:9 IRQ10 -> 0:10 IRQ11 -> 0:11 IRQ12 -> 0:12 IRQ14 -> 0:14 IRQ15 -> 0:15 IRQ16 -> 0:16 IRQ17 -> 0:17 IRQ18 -> 0:18 IRQ19 -> 0:19 .................................... done. Using local APIC timer interrupts. calibrating APIC timer ... ..... CPU clock speed is 547.0118 MHz. ..... host bus clock speed is 99.0476 MHz. checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs: passed. Brought up 2 CPUs zapping low mappings. NET: Registered protocol family 16 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfca1e, last bus=2 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub ACPI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries PCI: Invalid ACPI-PCI IRQ routing table PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX/ICH [8086/7110] at 0000:00:07.0 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I7,P3) -> 185 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B0,I17,P0) -> 169 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B1,I0,P0) -> 161 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B2,I10,P0) -> 177 PCI->APIC IRQ transform: (B2,I14,P0) -> 177 PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 4 of device 0000:00:07.1 apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac) apm: disabled - APM is not SMP safe. audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) audit(1083748694.4294966878:0): initialized Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks Initializing Cryptographic API pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: Card 'CS4236B' isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total Real Time Clock Driver v1.12 Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones agpgart: Detected an Intel 440GX Chipset. agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xec000000 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing enabled ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device lo Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:07.1 PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:07.1 (0000 -> 0001) PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later PIIX4: neither IDE port enabled (BIOS) ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide usbcore: registered new driver hiddev usbcore: registered new driver hid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse on isa0060/serio1 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 32Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 21845) Initializing IPsec netlink socket NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 17 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). SCSI subsystem initialized scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.36 aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs Using cfq io scheduler (scsi0:A:0): 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST336607LW Rev: 0007 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 scsi0:A:0:0: Tagged Queuing enabled. Depth 4 SCSI device sda: 71687372 512-byte hdwr sectors (36704 MB) SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 scsi1 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.36 aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs (scsi1:A:5): 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) Vendor: NEC Model: CD-ROM DRIVE:466 Rev: 1.06 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: K.05 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Freeing unused kernel memory: 184k freed NET: Registered protocol family 10 Disabled Privacy Extensions on device 02327f00(lo) IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device sit0 USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: irq 185, io base 0000ece0 uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected EXT3 FS on sda2, internal journal usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 device-mapper: 4.1.0-ioctl (2003-12-10) initialised: dm at uk.sistina.com hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-1:1.0: 5 ports detected usb 1-1.1: new full speed USB device using address 3 hiddev96: USB HID v1.00 Device [Nokia Display Products Oy Nokia USB Monitor Control] on usb-0000:00:07.2-1.1 Adding 1044216k swap on /dev/sda3. Priority:-1 extents:1 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. From maestronn at wowway.com Wed May 5 12:48:43 2004 From: maestronn at wowway.com (D James) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 08:48:43 -0400 Subject: New Kernel Slow Boot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4098E2AB.6040404@wowway.com> Essam Mohsin wrote: > How to make the kernel to display the messages as usual ?? 22- in the GUI initial login screen the default session type is Gnome , how to make it to KDE 3.2.2 Essam, Edit your grub.conf file and remove the parameter ?quiet? from the kernel boot options. You can leave this option and dmesg will still give you all the kernel message which you can also view using system-logviewer From abraxis at metroweb.co.za Wed May 5 12:48:17 2004 From: abraxis at metroweb.co.za (Neil Thompson) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 14:48:17 +0200 Subject: Funnies with gnome and X on 1.92 In-Reply-To: <1083760790.2113.80.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <20040505103047.GC4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> <20040505104716.GA6381@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040505105801.GD4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> <1083760790.2113.80.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20040505124817.GE4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 08:39:51AM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 06:58, Neil Thompson wrote: > > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 06:47:16AM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 12:30:47PM +0200, Neil Thompson wrote: > > > > Is anyone else having an interesting time with Gnome/xorg? I'm > > > > having a couple of regular, but intermittant problems - > > > > > > The newest kernels have fixed several ugly DRI bugs that might be > > > relevant especially on intel i8xx hardware > > > > I'm on 2.6.5-1.349. One of the boxes is an intel (Dell GX270), the other > > is a homebrew box with a Radeon 9200SE in an AGP8X slot. > > Had a system lockup late last night (homebrew Athlon 1GHz on Abit > KT7A-RAID, ATI All-in-wonder 8500 - far behind yours :-) after upgrading > to latest kernel, but before rebooting, when attempting Ctrl-Alt-F1 to > change from X to a VC. Screen turned gray and no response from > keyboard/mouse, including Ctrl-Alt-Fx, Ctrl-Alt-Bksp, Ctrl-Alt-Del. Hit I have the same problem (also intermittantly) when Ctrl-Alt-F1ing to a VC, sounds like there is an issue. Hmmm... Neil From Fred.New at microlink.ee Wed May 5 12:54:45 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:54:45 +0300 Subject: [FC2T3] Sound card failure CS4236B Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E14@eemail1.microlink.lan> On Wednesday, May 5, 2004 at 15:45, Christian Joensson wrote: > This is on a Fedora Core 2, test 3, system running linux kernel > 2.6.5-1.327smp. > > I cannot get the isapnp: Card 'CS4236B' to work... > > Any hint on where to go? > > Attached is the dmesg output. Note that I started with acpi=off to get > going with smp... > > Any help is greatly appreciated. I have had bug http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115885 open for a while for my onboard ISAPnP CS4235. It doesn't look like the kernel and kudzu have ISAPnP working yet. I gave up and installed an Ensoniq 1371 that was lying around the office. Fred From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Wed May 5 13:04:37 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:04:37 +0200 Subject: Mouse not working from installer onwards In-Reply-To: <4097DC4B.7070809@orange.net> References: <4097DC4B.7070809@orange.net> Message-ID: <20040505150437.4790bfcf.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:09:15 +0100, Tomasz Jaszkin wrote: > I had been running FC1 for a little while and decided to have a look at > FC2 Test 2 and now also Test 3. > > In both Test 2 and 3, my mouse failed to work at all during installation > and also after installation. I've looked at the various threads > concerning what sounds to be a similar problem and also linked with X > not starting. > > I followed the tips concerning the changes to X configuration using > /dev/psaux, /dev/mouse, /dev/input/mice, etc. > > But nothing worked. In fact changing the setting, made X not start up, > so I put it back to default. > > I have a PS/2 mouse, with scroll wheel (also acts as button 3). > > Any idea's outwith the things I've tried so far? Entry point: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/122065 There are many similar/related/duplicate bugs about non-working mice since FC2T2. Some contain explanations, others do not. From chak at cse.unsw.edu.au Wed May 5 13:10:01 2004 From: chak at cse.unsw.edu.au (Manuel M T Chakravarty) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 23:10:01 +1000 Subject: [fedora-test] centrino wifi support In-Reply-To: <20040504074129.GA24659@fw.coote.org> References: <20040502175419.GA22322@fw.coote.org> <20040503203119.GO11433@nemesis.maddog.net> <20040504074129.GA24659@fw.coote.org> Message-ID: <1083762601.3297.4.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 17:41, tim+redhat.com at coote.org wrote: > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 04:31:19PM -0400, Philip Balister wrote: > > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 06:54:19PM +0100, tim+redhat.com at coote.org wrote: > > > > > > I don't know whether this problem with 4k stacks is to do with the ndiswrapper itself, or the windows drivers that it's encapsulating. > > > > I had the same problem. The ndiswrapper guys told me that the windows driver > > does strange memory allocations that fail under 4K stacks. I swtched to > > the open source driver. > > > > Philip > > As soon as they get ad-hoc working, I'll follow suit. Did you tell the developers of the open source driver that you need ad-hoc mode? If not, please do so, as more demand will hopefully make it a higher priority item. I am also waiting for this feature and already told the project maintainer about this. Manuel From jr36 at leicester.ac.uk Wed May 5 13:10:57 2004 From: jr36 at leicester.ac.uk (Jonathan Rawle) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 14:10:57 +0100 Subject: New Kernel Slow Boot References: Message-ID: Essam Mohsin wrote: > 2- in the GUI initial login screen the default session type is Gnome , how > to make it to KDE 3.2.2 Assuming things haven't changed since FC1, you need to edit /etc/sysconfig/desktop: DESKTOP="KDE" DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" You probably need to add the second line. Jonathan From aaron.bennett at olin.edu Wed May 5 13:30:07 2004 From: aaron.bennett at olin.edu (Aaron Bennett) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 09:30:07 -0400 Subject: Touch pad on Dell i8100 no longer tap pad for mouse click In-Reply-To: <200405042340.55563.b.akins@verizon.net> References: <4095336D.6090009@gulik.org> <200405042340.55563.b.akins@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4098EC5F.1080907@olin.edu> Olu Akins wrote: > >>Nope. This is even in bugzilla. We're missing a package named >>`synaptics', that apparently isn't going to make it to FC2 :-( >> >> >> Is this true? I would consider this a MAJOR bug that will be a showstopper for my users, virtually all of whom use Dell Latitude laptops with synaptics touchpads. I can and will work around it by geting the synaptics packages manually integrated. RedHat people, can you verify that Synaptics touchpad support will be broken in FC2? It works fine in FC1, so if true, this represent a major step backwards in FC2. Very few people will enjoy seeing a disto's hardware support get worse over time. -- Aaron Bennett UNIX Administrator Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering From masterra at m-ra.net Wed May 5 13:34:29 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 08:34:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Touch pad on Dell i8100 no longer tap pad for mouse click In-Reply-To: <4098EC5F.1080907@olin.edu> References: <4095336D.6090009@gulik.org> <200405042340.55563.b.akins@verizon.net> <4098EC5F.1080907@olin.edu> Message-ID: Btw, most new HP laptops use the synaptics pad as well, and i would imagine many more do. And yes, i had to manually install the driver, though it works great now :) -Quasar On Wed, 5 May 2004, Aaron Bennett wrote: > Olu Akins wrote: > > > > >>Nope. This is even in bugzilla. We're missing a package named > >>`synaptics', that apparently isn't going to make it to FC2 :-( > >> > >> > >> > > > Is this true? I would consider this a MAJOR bug that will be a > showstopper for my users, virtually all of whom use Dell Latitude > laptops with synaptics touchpads. I can and will work around it by > geting the synaptics packages manually integrated. > > RedHat people, can you verify that Synaptics touchpad support will be > broken in FC2? It works fine in FC1, so if true, this represent a major > step backwards in FC2. Very few people will enjoy seeing a disto's > hardware support get worse over time. > > -- > Aaron Bennett > UNIX Administrator > Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed May 5 13:38:09 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 09:38:09 -0400 Subject: Funnies with gnome and X on 1.92 In-Reply-To: <20040505124817.GE4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> References: <20040505103047.GC4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> <20040505104716.GA6381@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040505105801.GD4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> <1083760790.2113.80.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040505124817.GE4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> Message-ID: <1083764289.2113.116.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 08:48, Neil Thompson wrote: > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 08:39:51AM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 06:58, Neil Thompson wrote: > > > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 06:47:16AM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 12:30:47PM +0200, Neil Thompson wrote: > > > > > Is anyone else having an interesting time with Gnome/xorg? I'm > > > > > having a couple of regular, but intermittant problems - > > > > > > > > The newest kernels have fixed several ugly DRI bugs that might be > > > > relevant especially on intel i8xx hardware > > > > > > I'm on 2.6.5-1.349. One of the boxes is an intel (Dell GX270), the other > > > is a homebrew box with a Radeon 9200SE in an AGP8X slot. > > > > Had a system lockup late last night (homebrew Athlon 1GHz on Abit > > KT7A-RAID, ATI All-in-wonder 8500 - far behind yours :-) after upgrading > > to latest kernel, but before rebooting, when attempting Ctrl-Alt-F1 to > > change from X to a VC. Screen turned gray and no response from > > keyboard/mouse, including Ctrl-Alt-Fx, Ctrl-Alt-Bksp, Ctrl-Alt-Del. Hit > > I have the same problem (also intermittantly) when Ctrl-Alt-F1ing to a VC, > sounds like there is an issue. > > Hmmm... If it still happens with the latest kernel, deserves a Bugzilla. Will try to beat on it tonight myself. Can you duplicate the problem? Phil From eric.beyer at lnxfrk.net Wed May 5 14:09:20 2004 From: eric.beyer at lnxfrk.net (Eric Beyer) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: FCT3 - Hangs when installing from CD In-Reply-To: <20040505110051.84933.qmail@web50505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040505110051.84933.qmail@web50505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <59768.64.238.64.1.1083766160.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> misteer landos said: > I had this same problem, on an Asus P4C800 and Fedora > Core 1, (the CD wouldn't boot). > > I had been using FC1 with no problems till I upgraded > the bios to version 1014. The only way I could find to > solve it was to patch the bios back to version 1011. > At the time I did that, version 1014 was the latest > one, so I can't tell whether versions 1015 or 1016 > will work. Also, whether this is a bios fault or a > kernel one... I have no clue. > > Hope this solves it for you ;) > Hmm, I was at 1014 and recently went to 1016 and still had no luck. I will flash the bios back to 1011 tonight and post how it goes. I would be great to be able to get FC2 Test 3 installed so I can start planning/testing migration of my other 'main' box. Thanks, Eric From eric.beyer at lnxfrk.net Wed May 5 14:27:07 2004 From: eric.beyer at lnxfrk.net (Eric Beyer) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Webalizer + two domains In-Reply-To: <1083747431.2526.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1083747431.2526.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <22126.64.238.64.1.1083767227.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> Mike Chambers said: > Is there a way to use webalizer, or configure it, to monitor two domains > on a box instead of just the total? > Yes, I have been doing it for the past month. I take it you have Apache set up for virtual domains? > As in right now, I have both my domains pointing to one access/error log > (/var/log/httpd/access_log), but would rather them point to their own > and have webalizer monitor both. What I mean by both, as in maybe two > sites for both such as www.mydomain.com/usage/mydomain.html and > www.mydomain2.com/usage/mydomain2.html or something similar? > It seems like the recommended solution is to log each domain in a separate log. For example, my default domain logs to /var/log/httpd/access_log. My second "virtual domain" logs to /var/logs/httpd/second_domain_access_log. You can define this in the container like this: CustomLog /var/log/httpd/second_domain_access_log ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/second_domain_error_log Then you create a copy of webalizer's config (/etc/webalizer.conf) for the second domain. Edit the file and tell it where your second domain's log file is at. Also change the OutputDir, HistoryName and IncrementalName to something other than where it defaults to (that way you don't skew your default domain's history). Finally edit /etc/cron.daily/00webalizer and copy the three lines currently in there directly below it. On the second entry change /usr/bin/webalizer to /usr/bin/webalizer -c /etc/.conf (of course changing name_of_second_webalizer to whatever the name of the copy you created in an earlier step.) Hope this helps. Eric From piller at visi.net Wed May 5 14:25:20 2004 From: piller at visi.net (Maurice F. Piller) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:25:20 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 Fresh Install, First Boot Feedback Message-ID: Hi All, I performed a fresh install of FC2T3 on my PII 400 MHz system. I selected Workstation package group installation (CDROM #1 and #2). After installing FC2T3 using graphical install, I rebooted my machine into my FC1 installation and added the necessary info to my grub.conf so I could boot my new FC2T3 install. I then rebooted and selected the fresh FC2T3 installation. 1) error message during bootup, LVM failed. 2) system-config-display started and successfully configured X, I accepted the default settings. 3) firstboot failed, X started and presented me with the graphical FC2 login screen ============================================= System Log errors Boot: firstboot failed mdmpd failed kernel: kernel: There is already a security framework initialized .... kernel: Failure registgering capabilities with the kernel kernel: cdrom: open failed security: sshd[1515]: error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed X.org Audit: Wed May 5 ... X: client 4 rejected from local host ========================================== It seems like there are too many services enabled by default. acpid anacron apmd atd autofs cpuspeed crond cups firstboot gpm iptables irqbalance isdn kudzu mdmonitor mdmpd messagebus microcode_ctl netfs network nfslock pcmcia portmap random rawdevices readahead readahead_early rhnsd rpcgssd rpcidmapd rpcsvcgssd sendmail sgi_fam smartd sshd syslog xinetd =========================================================== I have never used LVM and did not choose LVM during installation. Cheers, Chip From tillm at optushome.com.au Wed May 5 14:29:35 2004 From: tillm at optushome.com.au (Till) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 00:29:35 +1000 Subject: FCT3 - Hangs when installing from CD In-Reply-To: <59768.64.238.64.1.1083766160.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> References: <20040505110051.84933.qmail@web50505.mail.yahoo.com> <59768.64.238.64.1.1083766160.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> Message-ID: <4098FA4F.4060708@optushome.com.au> On 06/05/04 00:09 Eric Beyer Squawked: > misteer landos said: >> I had this same problem, on an Asus P4C800 and Fedora >> Core 1, (the CD wouldn't boot). >> >> I had been using FC1 with no problems till I upgraded >> the bios to version 1014. The only way I could find to >> solve it was to patch the bios back to version 1011. >> At the time I did that, version 1014 was the latest >> one, so I can't tell whether versions 1015 or 1016 >> will work. Also, whether this is a bios fault or a >> kernel one... I have no clue. >> >> Hope this solves it for you ;) >> > Hmm, I was at 1014 and recently went to 1016 and still had no luck. I will > flash the bios back to 1011 tonight and post how it goes. I would be great > to be able to get FC2 Test 3 installed so I can start planning/testing > migration of my other 'main' box. I just tried it and it made no difference :( It would seem that our motherboards and FC2T3 just don't like each other. Funny because running FC2T3(Upgraded from FC2T2) with kernel SMP-349, FC2 runs superbly, well for a test release that is :) -- Till From zac9 at cdc.gov Wed May 5 14:23:08 2004 From: zac9 at cdc.gov (Sessoms, Mack) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:23:08 -0400 Subject: Problems running tomcat 4.1.27-12 In-Reply-To: <1083700912.4097f6b0ec09a@mail.ucla.edu> References: <1083700912.4097f6b0ec09a@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <4098F8CC.8020802@cdc.gov> I'm also still having problems running tomcat 5.0.19. I get major out of memory errors in catalina.out. I'm thinking of building tomcat from src to see what i get. In doing so, i noticed the default installation of ant on fc2t3 has two broken sym links, both to nonexistent jars that should be in /usr/share/java. one of which is needed to build tomcat. WANG,SHERMAN S wrote: >Hi, > > I recently installed tomcat 4.1.27-12 on two machines with fresh >installs of FC2 Test3 via yum and can't seem to be able to run anything. >On both machines, the service starts without any error messages, but it >doesn't bind to port 8080 so I'm not able to access localhost:8080. Also, >when I try the runtests script, I get the following (on both installs): > >[INFO] creating catalina home in /tmp/tomcat >[INFO] starting server >[ERROR] Traceback (most recent call last): >[ERROR] File "./runtests", line 65, in ? >[ERROR] server.getServer(conn) >[ERROR] File "harness/server.py", line 151, in getServer >[ERROR] server = apply(Server, args, kwargs) >[ERROR] File "harness/server.py", line 60, in __init__ >[ERROR] self.start() >[ERROR] File "harness/server.py", line 117, in start >[ERROR] raise ServerError, "gave up waiting for server to warm up" >[ERROR] ServerError: gave up waiting for server to warm up >[INFO] stopping server > > Any ideas? > > Thank you for your time, > Sherman > > > > From eric.beyer at lnxfrk.net Wed May 5 14:43:18 2004 From: eric.beyer at lnxfrk.net (Eric Beyer) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:43:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: FCT3 - Hangs when installing from CD In-Reply-To: <4098FA4F.4060708@optushome.com.au> References: <20040505110051.84933.qmail@web50505.mail.yahoo.com><59768.64.238.64.1.1083766160.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <4098FA4F.4060708@optushome.com.au> Message-ID: <34356.64.238.64.1.1083768198.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> Till said: > On 06/05/04 00:09 Eric Beyer Squawked: > >> misteer landos said: >>> >>> I had been using FC1 with no problems till I upgraded >>> the bios to version 1014. The only way I could find to >>> solve it was to patch the bios back to version 1011. >>> >> Hmm, I was at 1014 and recently went to 1016 and still had no luck. I >> will >> flash the bios back to 1011 tonight and post how it goes. I would be >> great >> to be able to get FC2 Test 3 installed so I can start planning/testing >> migration of my other 'main' box. > > I just tried it and it made no difference :( It > would seem that our motherboards and FC2T3 just > don't like each other. Funny because running > FC2T3(Upgraded from FC2T2) with kernel SMP-349, > FC2 runs superbly, well for a test release that is :) > Darn! BTW what did you do to upgrade w/o booting from the T3 CD and choosing upgrade? I read the bit on 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and using yum but haven't gave them a shot yet. From maxer1 at xmission.com Wed May 5 14:56:22 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (RaXeT) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 08:56:22 -0600 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <40990096.6050903@xmission.com> Alexandre Oliva wrote: >On May 4, 2004, "D. D. Brierton" wrote: > > > >>On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 21:13, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: >> >> >>>http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC1-firewire/0README >>> >>> > > > >>Aha! Thank you for pointing this out to me. So FireWire support was >>removed from the installer at the last minute >> >> > >Err... Nope. It just never made it to the installer. > >The situation with FC2 is a bit trickier, because the kernel ships >without working firewire drivers. My plan is to roll out updated >boot.iso images with 2.6.3ish firewire drivers, that work for me, and >then people will hopefully be able to use them just like they've used >my FC1-firewire stuff. If there's room for some more hoping :-), >maybe we're lucky and the current firewire problems in the mainline >kernel will get fixed and we'll be able to roll out kernel updates >with it enabled... > > Well I just don't understand. I can compile the firewire drivers in any of the kernels. Currently working very well in 2.6.5-1.350. Again why can't someone just go in and make the drivers modules in any future kernel is beyond me. It's always worked and I have had absolutely no hangups. Someone just decided to pull it from mainline kernel with no reason what ever. Go figure. Humor me. RaXeT From tillm at optushome.com.au Wed May 5 15:15:16 2004 From: tillm at optushome.com.au (Till) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 01:15:16 +1000 Subject: FCT3 - Hangs when installing from CD In-Reply-To: <34356.64.238.64.1.1083768198.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> References: <20040505110051.84933.qmail@web50505.mail.yahoo.com><59768.64.238.64.1.1083766160.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <4098FA4F.4060708@optushome.com.au> <34356.64.238.64.1.1083768198.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> Message-ID: <40990504.3050204@optushome.com.au> On 06/05/04 00:43 Eric Beyer Squawked: > Till said: >> On 06/05/04 00:09 Eric Beyer Squawked: >> >>> misteer landos said: >>>> >>>> I had been using FC1 with no problems till I upgraded >>>> the bios to version 1014. The only way I could find to >>>> solve it was to patch the bios back to version 1011. >>>> >>> Hmm, I was at 1014 and recently went to 1016 and still had no luck. I >>> will >>> flash the bios back to 1011 tonight and post how it goes. I would be >>> great >>> to be able to get FC2 Test 3 installed so I can start planning/testing >>> migration of my other 'main' box. >> >> I just tried it and it made no difference :( It >> would seem that our motherboards and FC2T3 just >> don't like each other. Funny because running >> FC2T3(Upgraded from FC2T2) with kernel SMP-349, >> FC2 runs superbly, well for a test release that is :) >> > Darn! BTW what did you do to upgrade w/o booting from the T3 CD and > choosing upgrade? I read the bit on 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and using yum > but haven't gave them a shot yet. I was already running FC2T2 and doing upgrades via yum as they were released, which automatically brings you up to FC2T3. I did have a problem booting into FC2T2 after installing from FC2T2 CD but got by that by doing an interactive startup and not loading kudzu. once logged in I upgraded the default kernel to the latest at the time and all has bee well since. Yeah - so if you install FC2T2 and then just do a yum check-update and then yum update, you should be at FC2T3, no need to do a dist upgrade! HTH -- Till From alan at redhat.com Wed May 5 15:41:45 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:41:45 -0400 Subject: Mouse not working from installer onwards In-Reply-To: <20040505150437.4790bfcf.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <4097DC4B.7070809@orange.net> <20040505150437.4790bfcf.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <20040505154145.GB22134@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 03:04:37PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Any idea's outwith the things I've tried so far? > > Entry point: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/122065 > > There are many similar/related/duplicate bugs about non-working mice > since FC2T2. Some contain explanations, others do not. T3 should have fixed the kernel side one From alan at redhat.com Wed May 5 15:50:52 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:50:52 -0400 Subject: Problems with automounter and our site nis maps. In-Reply-To: <20040503174526.GA30051@lnx-holt.americas.sgi.com> References: <20040503174526.GA30051@lnx-holt.americas.sgi.com> Message-ID: <20040505155052.GA29298@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 12:45:26PM -0500, Robin Holt wrote: > Our site has many existing nis maps for autofs. The autofs/kernel with > Fedora Core 1 used the existing maps with no difficulty. With Fedora > Core 2, we have issues with mount options which used to be silently > ignored. Specifically, we have maps with the quota, noquota, or grpid > mount options. These do apply to the Irix, sunos, solaris, or unicos > systems we have and our IS is reluctant to remove those options. 2.6 is much fussier about such things as unknown options From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Wed May 5 16:01:01 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 17:01:01 +0100 Subject: [FC2T3] Sound card failure CS4236B In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E14@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E14@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <1083772861.9284.13.camel@datacontrol> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:54 +0300, Fred New wrote: > On Wednesday, May 5, 2004 at 15:45, Christian Joensson wrote: > > This is on a Fedora Core 2, test 3, system running linux kernel > > 2.6.5-1.327smp. > > > > I cannot get the isapnp: Card 'CS4236B' to work... > > > > Any hint on where to go? > > > > Attached is the dmesg output. Note that I started with acpi=off to get > > going with smp... > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > I have had bug > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115885 open for a > while for my onboard ISAPnP CS4235. It doesn't look like the kernel and > kudzu have ISAPnP working yet. I gave up and installed an Ensoniq 1371 > that was lying around the office. > > Fred > I've got one of these at home - no probs Have you tried mod-probing the driver ie: modprobe snd-cs4236 > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From stefan at biblio-tech.net Wed May 5 16:18:41 2004 From: stefan at biblio-tech.net (Stefan Thierl) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 17:18:41 +0100 Subject: Building NTFS modules from fedora kernel source packages In-Reply-To: <52333.64.238.64.1.1083769846.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> References: <1083139465.2188.29.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083150256.6649.1.camel@tarkus><1083151773.3847.25.camel@devel.mpeters.us> <1083155379.27002.23.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1083206415.24362.2.camel@orpheus.pcorp.com.au> <1083490785.2475.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083492049.2603.11.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <4094C8D6.6090007@gmx.de> <1083672269.532.1.camel@oiktest> <54471.64.238.64.1.1083681884.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <1083686992.532.112.camel@oiktest> <25705.64.238.64.1.1083767537.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <1083768142.6037.4.camel@oiktest> <52333.64.238.64.1.1083769846.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> Message-ID: <1083773920.6037.12.camel@oiktest> i've tried the steps using all the different kernel source packs i have on my work machine: linux-2.6.4-1.305 linux-2.6.5-1.315 linux-2.6.5-1.322 linux-2.6.5-1.326 linux-2.6.5-1.332 linux-2.6.5-1.349 the module builds fine on linux-2.6.4-1.305, linux-2.6.5-1.315, and linux-2.6.5-1.322. From linux-2.6.5-1.326 onwards it throws up about a mile of errors and I have no idea why. i presume you are getting the same errors. small snippet of them: [root at oiktest linux-2.6.5-1.326]# make modules SUBDIRS=fs/ntfs CC [M] fs/ntfs/aops.o In file included from fs/ntfs/aops.c:24: include/linux/errno.h:4:23: asm/errno.h: No such file or directory In file included from include/linux/mm.h:4, from fs/ntfs/aops.c:25: include/linux/sched.h:4:37: asm/param.h: No such file or directory In file included from include/linux/types.h:13, from include/linux/capability.h:16, from include/linux/sched.h:7, from include/linux/mm.h:4, from fs/ntfs/aops.c:25: include/linux/posix_types.h:47:29: asm/posix_types.h: No such file or directory In file included from include/linux/capability.h:16, from include/linux/sched.h:7, from include/linux/mm.h:4, from fs/ntfs/aops.c:25: include/linux/types.h:14:23: asm/types.h: No such file or directory In file included from include/linux/capability.h:16, from include/linux/sched.h:7, from include/linux/mm.h:4, from fs/ntfs/aops.c:25: if anyone could shed some light on this, it would be appreciated. On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 16:10, Eric Beyer wrote: > Stefan Thierl said: > > I've seen reports of something similar from other people.. I'd still > > like to try though, no point in sitting here like a lemon, may as well > > break something while i'm at it :) > > could you send the steps over when you have a moment? > > thanks > > Stefan, > Below are the steps. This normally works for me but no luck when I tried > it last night. Good luck! > > > On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:32, Eric Beyer wrote: > >> > >> I hope you have better luck than I did. I was going to send the step but > >> decided I should probably test them in FC2 before sending them. I could > >> not create the ntfs.ko using the newest kernel source (2.6.5-1.349?). > >> Then > >> again I attempted this in a virtual environment since FC2T3 doesn't > >> currently work with my hardware (though FC1 does...). I will keep > >> working > >> on it. > >> > 1. Determine your kernel version: uname -r > 2.6.5-1.349 > > 2. Download and install your kernel source (if you don't currently have it) > > 3. Prepare the kernel source > cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.349 > > 4. make mrproper > > 5. make menuconfig or (xconfig, gconfig, oldconfig) > > 6. Choose to add an alternate config file (found in /configs) > > 6a. Go to File Systems, DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems > > 6b. Choose to build NTFS file system support as a module > > 6c. Go back to the main menu, exit and save > > 7. Edit the toplevel Makefile > > Change: > VERSION = 2 > PATCHLEVEL = 6 > SUBLEVEL = 5 > EXTRAVERSION = -1.349custom > > To this: > VERSION = 2 > PATCHLEVEL = 6 > SUBLEVEL = 5 > EXTRAVERSION = -1.349 > > 8. Compile the NTFS module > make modules SUBDIRS=fs/ntfs > > Note: worked in FC1 using kernel 2.6.3 but no luck in FC2 with 2.6.5-1.349 > > 9. Make a ntfs directory under /lib/modules/* > mkdir /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.349/kernel/fs/ntfs > > 10. Copy the ntfs.ko module to your modules directory > cp fs/ntfs/ntfs.ko /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.349/kernel/fs/ntfs/ > > 11. Change the permissions on the ntfs.ko module (if needed) > chmod 644 /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.349/kernel/fs/ntfs/ntfs.ko > > 12. Update modules.dep > /sbin/depmod -a > > At this point you should be able to use the module to mount a NTFS file > system -- Stefan Thierl Systems Administrator Hoxton Bibliotech 239 Old Street London EC1V 9EY -- T: 020 7553 4476 F: 020 7251 3130 W: http://techteam.biblio-tech.net "We accelerate the creation, growth and success of companies and improve the career opportunities of individuals." From ehoekema.ml at xs4all.nl Wed May 5 16:25:17 2004 From: ehoekema.ml at xs4all.nl (Eelco Hoekema) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 18:25:17 +0200 Subject: Mouse not working from installer onwards In-Reply-To: <4097DC4B.7070809@orange.net> References: <4097DC4B.7070809@orange.net> Message-ID: <1083774316.19098.3.camel@lafbek> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 20:09, Tomasz Jaszkin wrote: > I followed the tips concerning the changes to X configuration using > /dev/psaux, /dev/mouse, /dev/input/mice, etc. What tips? I've installed fc2t2 and fc2t3, and with the latter i found the mouse not working. It did during the install though. > I have a PS/2 mouse, with scroll wheel (also acts as button 3). Me too. And i've tried both a regular as well as an optical - both fail. And both work fine in fc2t2. eelco From s.sch- at gmx.de Wed May 5 16:44:37 2004 From: s.sch- at gmx.de (Simon Schwarz) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 18:44:37 +0200 Subject: How can I place things in places? (orte in german) Message-ID: <1083775477.2354.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, as in the topic. I would like to place links to some folders in the places menu of nautilus (fc2t3 gnome 2.6). Is this possible and if it is, how? thanks! Simon From jsamort at shaw.ca Wed May 5 17:02:59 2004 From: jsamort at shaw.ca (J. Scott Amort) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:02:59 -0700 Subject: native eclipse with FC2 Message-ID: <1083776579.2465.3.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> Hi All, I'm running FC2T3 and really enjoying it... things have really improved since the first test release. I do notice, however, that a native eclipse still doesn't seem to be part of the distro. This promised to be one of the highlights for me, but it seems that all I can find out is that it will appear 'sometime soon.' Does anyone know if this will be included still, or at least available as an extra download? Thanks for any information. Best, Scott From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Wed May 5 17:09:01 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 12:09:01 -0500 Subject: alsa mute In-Reply-To: <20040501004454.088ddaa8.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <1083275387.8077.2.camel@simba.lion> <40917E24.7080201@earthlink.net> <200404291843.39169.jent@spicylemons.com> <4091AE07.3040503@earthlink.net> <1083329815.2360.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040430153042.00a80027.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1083342163.2074.6.camel@Aristotle> <20040430194053.34977f61.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1083347998.2346.6.camel@Aristotle> <1083357072.1983.6.camel@Aristotle> <20040501004454.088ddaa8.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <1083776940.2940.6.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> I have a laptop with a Sis chipset Si7012 and a desktop with an Ensoniq. The PCM slider is set to zero after each boot. After saving the settings I just put a "alsactl restore" entry in rc.local to restore my settings. Has (does) this need to be bugzilla'd? Timothy On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 17:44, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:31:12 -0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 13:59, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > > > > /etc/asound.state is saved at shutdown, and running alsactl restore > > > immediately after login does restore the correct values for PCM and > > > other controls. So the problem seems to be that modprobe didn't run > > > alsactl restore at startup. > > > > > > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: MC'97 1 converters and GPIO not ready (0xff00) > > That is a modem detection message. > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured > > 49596 usecs > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000 > > That configures your audio chipset to 48 kHz. > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command > > for sound_slot_1 > > sound-slot-1 would be the second soundcard and OSS, sound-slot-0 the first. > (/etc/modprobe.conf.dist handles the OSS stuff) > > > Apr 30 16:18:28 Aristotle last message repeated 2 times > > Apr 30 16:22:01 Aristotle modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command > > for sound_slot_1 > > > > Still can't understand why modprobe fails, though > > > > > > OK, seems that these lines in sys log explain why: > > > > > From friopolar at saladelfrio.com Wed May 5 17:14:18 2004 From: friopolar at saladelfrio.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=EDo?= Polar) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 19:14:18 +0200 Subject: native eclipse with FC2 In-Reply-To: <1083776579.2465.3.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> References: <1083776579.2465.3.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> Message-ID: <1083777258.3080.53.camel@iglu.saladelfrio.com> El mi?, 05-05-2004 a las 19:02, J. Scott Amort escribi?: > I'm running FC2T3 and really enjoying it... things have really improved > since the first test release. I do notice, however, that a native > eclipse still doesn't seem to be part of the distro. This promised to > be one of the highlights for me, but it seems that all I can find out is I'm agree with you, I was waiting for a native version of eclipse but in the meantime you can try with the repos of jpackage. They have eclipse and a lot plugins for it among a lot of java stuff. -- ___________ Fr?o Polar http://www.saladelfrio.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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MONITOR PANIC: NOT_IMPLEMENTED Core dump with build build-7568 Setting vaddr to 0 Beginning monitor coredump End monitor coredump Writing anonymous pages at pos: 401000 Monitor Panic. Last Disk I/O was to the MBR Msg_Post: Error [msg.log.monpanic] *** VMware Workstation internal monitor error *** NOT_IMPLEMENTED at 602 (7568) Code: 00000602-00001d90-e3bfafe0-afff81e7-f1cba686-bfd69288-82c2a5cb-e0fb Any help with a possible work around would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Chyld M. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Warren Togami Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:20 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: VMware and Fedora Running FC2 Test3 and higher in VMWare is broken because VMWare needs to implement vdso. For now you can use "vdso=0" boot option. It works for me when running FC2 Test3 within VMWare 4.5.1 hosted on FC2 Test3. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From paul.verstraete at mech.kuleuven.ac.be Wed May 5 18:01:25 2004 From: paul.verstraete at mech.kuleuven.ac.be (paul verstraete) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 20:01:25 +0200 Subject: X server crash in dual head mode with one monitor turned off !! Message-ID: <40992BF5.8080008@mech.kuleuven.ac.be> I use a radeon9700 pro and a dual head set up. The Xorg.conf file claimed i had two identical monitors after using system, which was not the case (after correctly entering the two different monitor type into the system-config-display tool). This led to a Xserver crash at startup. With one monitor turned off, the X server crashed also (could not detect the second monitor). It would be a nice feature if the probing of the second one could be skipped in that case ... Paul. From netdemonz at yahoo.com Wed May 5 18:18:28 2004 From: netdemonz at yahoo.com (Brian Bober) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: test3: I thought selinux was disabled Message-ID: <20040505181828.47251.qmail@web90105.mail.scd.yahoo.com> I just installed test3 fresh. Why do I get these kinds of messages when I run up2date for the first time and start downloading packages? Are these the replacement for AVC errors, or are these something different?: /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_home_spamassassin_t on line number 1600 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:spamc_exec_t on line number 1601 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:spamd_exec_t on line number 1602 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:spamd_exec_t on line number 1603 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:spamd_exec_t on line number 1604 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:speedmgmt_exec_t on line number 1606 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:squid_exec_t on line number 1608 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:squid_cache_t on line number 1609 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:squid_cache_t on line number 1610 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:var_log_squid_t on line number 1611 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:squid_conf_t on line number 1612 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:squid_var_run_t on line number 1613 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:squid_conf_t on line number 1614 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:ssh_agent_exec_t on line number 1616 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:ssh_exec_t on line number 1618 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:ssh_keygen_exec_t on line number 1619 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sshd_key_t on line number 1621 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sshd_key_t on line number 1622 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sshd_key_t on line number 1623 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sshd_key_t on line number 1624 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sshd_exec_t on line number 1625 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_home_ssh_t on line number 1626 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_home_ssh_t on line number 1627 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:bin_t on line number 1629 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:bin_t on line number 1630 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:bin_t on line number 1631 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:su_exec_t on line number 1633 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sudo_exec_t on line number 1635 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:shell_exec_t on line number 1636 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sulogin_exec_t on line number 1638 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sxid_exec_t on line number 1640 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sxid_log_t on line number 1641 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sxid_log_t on line number 1642 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sxid_exec_t on line number 1643 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sxid_log_t on line number 1644 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:syslogd_exec_t on line number 1646 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:syslogd_exec_t on line number 1647 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:syslogd_exec_t on line number 1648 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:syslogd_exec_t on line number 1649 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:devlog_t on line number 1650 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:devlog_t on line number 1651 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:syslogd_var_run_t on line number 1652 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sysstat_exec_t on line number 1654 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sysstat_exec_t on line number 1655 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:sysstat_exec_t on line number 1656 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:var_log_sysstat_t on line number 1657 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:var_log_sysstat_t on line number 1658 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:var_log_sysstat_t on line number 1659 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:tcpd_exec_t on line number 1661 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:tftpd_exec_t on line number 1663 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:tftpd_exec_t on line number 1664 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:tftpdir_t on line number 1665 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:tmpreaper_exec_t on line number 1667 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:tmpreaper_exec_t on line number 1668 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:traceroute_exec_t on line number 1670 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:traceroute_exec_t on line number 1671 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:traceroute_exec_t on line number 1672 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:traceroute_exec_t on line number 1673 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:transproxy_exec_t on line number 1675 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:transproxy_var_run_t on line number 1676 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:udev_exec_t on line number 1678 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:udev_exec_t on line number 1679 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:udev_exec_t on line number 1680 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:udev_helper_exec_t on line number 1681 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:uml_switch_exec_t on line number 1683 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:uml_switch_var_run_t on line number 1684 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_uml_rw_t on line number 1685 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:updfstab_exec_t on line number 1690 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:etc_uptimed_t on line number 1692 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:uptimed_exec_t on line number 1693 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:uptimed_spool_t on line number 1694 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:usbmodules_exec_t on line number 1696 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:usbmodules_exec_t on line number 1697 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:useradd_exec_t on line number 1699 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:useradd_exec_t on line number 1700 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:useradd_exec_t on line number 1701 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:groupadd_exec_t on line number 1703 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:groupadd_exec_t on line number 1704 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:groupadd_exec_t on line number 1705 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:groupadd_exec_t on line number 1706 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:groupadd_exec_t on line number 1707 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:userhelper_conf_t on line number 1708 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:userhelper_exec_t on line number 1709 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:usernetctl_exec_t on line number 1711 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:utempter_exec_t on line number 1713 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_exec_t on line number 1720 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_exec_t on line number 1721 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_exec_t on line number 1722 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_exec_t on line number 1723 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_exec_t on line number 1724 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_exec_t on line number 1725 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_exec_t on line number 1726 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid 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system_u:object_r:vmware_sys_conf_t on line number 1738 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_sys_conf_t on line number 1739 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_user_exec_t on line number 1741 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_user_exec_t on line number 1742 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_user_file_t on line number 1754 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_user_file_t on line number 1755 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_user_file_t on line number 1756 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_user_file_t on line number 1757 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_user_conf_t on line number 1758 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:vmware_user_conf_t on line number 1759 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:watchdog_exec_t on line number 1761 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:watchdog_device_t on line number 1762 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:watchdog_log_t on line number 1763 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:watchdog_var_run_t on line number 1764 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xauth_exec_t on line number 1766 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_home_xauth_t on line number 1767 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:user_home_xauth_t on line number 1768 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xdm_exec_t on line number 1770 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xdm_exec_t on line number 1771 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xdm_exec_t on line number 1772 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t on line number 1773 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t on line number 1774 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t on line number 1775 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t on line number 1776 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xdm_tmp_t on line number 1777 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xsession_exec_t on line number 1778 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xdm_rw_etc_t on line number 1779 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xsession_exec_t on line number 1780 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: 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line number 1794 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:bin_t on line number 1795 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:bin_t on line number 1796 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:bin_t on line number 1797 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:bin_t on line number 1801 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:bin_t on line number 1802 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xdm_var_run_t on line number 1803 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xdm_var_run_t on line number 1804 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xfs_tmp_t on line number 1806 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xfs_exec_t on line number 1807 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:agp_device_t on line number 1809 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:dri_device_t on line number 1810 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_exec_t on line number 1811 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_exec_t on line number 1812 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_exec_t on line number 1813 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_exec_t on line number 1814 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_exec_t on line number 1815 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:var_lib_xkb_t on line number 1816 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:var_lib_xkb_t on line number 1817 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:var_lib_xkb_t on line number 1818 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:bin_t on line number 1819 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t on line number 1820 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t on line number 1821 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xserver_exec_t on line number 1822 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xdm_xserver_tmp_t on line number 1823 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:xdm_xserver_tmp_t on line number 1825 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:ypbind_exec_t on line number 1828 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:ypserv_exec_t on line number 1830 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:ypserv_conf_t on line number 1831 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:zebra_exec_t on line number 1833 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:zebra_exec_t on line number 1834 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:zebra_log_t on line number 1835 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:zebra_conf_t on line number 1836 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_home_dir_t on line number 1842 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_home_t on line number 1843 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:httpd_staff_content_t on line number 1844 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_gpg_secret_t on line number 1845 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_home_irc_t on line number 1846 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_mozilla_rw_t on line number 1847 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_mozilla_rw_t on line number 1848 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_mozilla_rw_t on line number 1849 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_home_screen_t on line number 1850 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_screensaver_rw_t on line number 1851 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_home_ssh_t on line number 1852 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_home_xauth_t on line number 1853 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:default_context_t on line number 1854 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:amanda_recover_dir_t on line number 1855 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:staff_home_spamassassin_t on line number 1856 From aoliva at redhat.com Wed May 5 18:23:05 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 05 May 2004 15:23:05 -0300 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <40990096.6050903@xmission.com> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> <40990096.6050903@xmission.com> Message-ID: On May 5, 2004, RaXeT wrote: > Well I just don't understand. I can compile the firewire drivers in > any of the kernels. Currently working very well in > 2.6.5-1.350. Again why can't someone just go in and make the drivers > modules in any future kernel is beyond me. The problem is that arjan got a lot of bug reports about boxes hanging on boot, and it turned out to be a problem with firewire, so he took it out, and now he won't turn it back up unless he's proven ieee1394 is fixed. I know for fact that it isn't fixed, so we got into sort of a stalemate. He talked me into believing it might be too risky to ship FC2 with firewire support that would prevent even the installer from booting for people who happen to have firewire controllers but don't care about them (the majority), and that we'd be better off shipping without firewire and issuing an update with it enabled, and meanwhile I'd work on supplying people with firewire support for the installer and the shipped kernel until this update goes out. I understand this is not ideal for a number of firewire users, myself included, but it sounded like a reasonable trade off to me. Unfortunate, but reasonable. > It's always worked and I have had absolutely no hangups. FWIW, me too. Except when it was really really broken, as in 2.6.5, before the recent 2.6.6-rc* fixes. I hope this clarifies the current situation. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From masterra at m-ra.net Wed May 5 18:31:50 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 13:31:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> <40990096.6050903@xmission.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 May 2004, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On May 5, 2004, RaXeT wrote: > > > Well I just don't understand. I can compile the firewire drivers in > > any of the kernels. Currently working very well in > > 2.6.5-1.350. Again why can't someone just go in and make the drivers > > modules in any future kernel is beyond me. > > The problem is that arjan got a lot of bug reports about boxes hanging > on boot, and it turned out to be a problem with firewire, so he took > it out, and now he won't turn it back up unless he's proven ieee1394 > is fixed. I know for fact that it isn't fixed, so we got into sort of > a stalemate. He talked me into believing it might be too risky to > ship FC2 with firewire support that would prevent even the installer > from booting for people who happen to have firewire controllers but > don't care about them (the majority), and that we'd be better off > shipping without firewire and issuing an update with it enabled, and > meanwhile I'd work on supplying people with firewire support for the > installer and the shipped kernel until this update goes out. > > I understand this is not ideal for a number of firewire users, myself > included, but it sounded like a reasonable trade off to me. > Unfortunate, but reasonable. Just thought i'd point out that I have had this problem, where the system freezes on the firewire driver load. Not with FC2, which i was pleased with, until i found that it wasn't laoding at all ;) The installer (on FC1, and 2) had no trouble for me, but then i didn't need the firewire drivers to install to/from, so i doubt they were loaded anyway. I do have an odd problem at the moment though - if i build the firewire driver from the kernel source, it builds fine, but this is what i get when i try to load it: [root at klorel ieee1394]# insmod ohci1394.ko insmod: error inserting 'ohci1394.ko': -1 Invalid module format [root at klorel ieee1394]# insmod ohci1394.o insmod: error inserting 'ohci1394.o': -1 Invalid module format -Quasar > > > It's always worked and I have had absolutely no hangups. > > FWIW, me too. Except when it was really really broken, as in 2.6.5, > before the recent 2.6.6-rc* fixes. > > I hope this clarifies the current situation. > > -- > Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ > Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} > Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From csm at moongroup.com Wed May 5 18:33:19 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (csm at moongroup.com) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 18:33:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: troubles with nautilus on x86_64 In-Reply-To: <4095518D.30303@moongroup.com> References: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com> <409529DD.3030505@moongroup.com> <4095518D.30303@moongroup.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 So it's now the middle of the week and there has been no activity on the bug report I made about nautilus. It's important (to me at least) that people realize that this is a BLOCKER bug because gnome is not usable with this bug in place. You only get about half the environment and as wwe are approaching the freeze point it would seem that *THIS* kind of bug would be quite interesting. On Sun, 2 May 2004, Chuck Mead spewed into the bitstream: CM>Chuck Mead wrote: CM>> Chuck Mead wrote: CM>> CM>>> So night before last I installed FC2T3 on an Athlon64 3000+ with a k8v CM>>> deluxe motherboard. Gnome has been a problem as nautilus dies when it CM>>> tries to start. I have a bug report (see attached) for that which is CM>>> going into bugzilla shortly. CM> CM>This has been submitted as bug 122298 CM>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122298 CM> CM> - -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAmTNyv6Gjsf2pQ0oRAhu0AJ9HozmaQ3oVsZvS1uJTBPMaLbtQhACfbTRD aUtCeNkq54q4Zqo25QQi1/Q= =ZDJQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From csm at moongroup.com Wed May 5 18:36:53 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 14:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Webalizer + two domains In-Reply-To: <1083747431.2526.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1083747431.2526.3.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <33623.63.148.163.200.1083782213.squirrel@moongroup.com> Mike Chambers said: > Is there a way to use webalizer, or configure it, to monitor two domains > on a box instead of just the total? > > As in right now, I have both my domains pointing to one access/error log > (/var/log/httpd/access_log), but would rather them point to their own > and have webalizer monitor both. What I mean by both, as in maybe two > sites for both such as www.mydomain.com/usage/mydomain.html and > www.mydomain2.com/usage/mydomain2.html or something similar? Use cron and have it execute "webalizer -c /path/to/configfile". That way you can use webalizer to maintain separate stats for as many domains as you can imagine. -- csm at moongroup.com Chief Tech and Bottle Washer From bcs at metacon.ca Wed May 5 18:45:06 2004 From: bcs at metacon.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:45:06 -0300 Subject: troubles with nautilus on x86_64 In-Reply-To: References: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com> <409529DD.3030505@moongroup.com> <4095518D.30303@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <1083782705.3230.27.camel@zephyr.its.unb.ca> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:33, csm at moongroup.com wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > So it's now the middle of the week and there has been no activity on the > bug report I made about nautilus. It's important (to me at least) that > people realize that this is a BLOCKER bug because gnome is not usable > with this bug in place. You only get about half the environment and as > wwe are approaching the freeze point it would seem that *THIS* kind of > bug would be quite interesting. Does this happen if you log in with a newly created user, with nothing in their home directory? I've had Nautilus crash on startup because of cruft lying around in my .gnome and .gnome2 directories. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs at metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves at unb.ca against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From wtogami at redhat.com Wed May 5 18:49:00 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 08:49:00 -1000 Subject: mailman testing needed Message-ID: <4099371C.7070504@redhat.com> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=105638#c12 Anyone using FC1 or FC2 mailman? Please rebuild this SRPM and see if it works for you. I tried to address the rpm -V and .py byte compile issue, but I am unable to quickly test this myself. Be prepared to downgrade back to the previous mailman version with --oldpackage if this test has failed. If this works, FC2 can finally fix this bug... Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From ron.flory at adtran.com Wed May 5 18:50:01 2004 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (Ron Flory) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 13:50:01 -0500 Subject: strange ssh or su issue on FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <72hduwwe81.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> References: <72n056so3n.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082473862.5832.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72isfusmoe.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082475093.5832.3.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72hdveeir4.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082477794.10690.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72d662ef7a.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1083161793.31700.58.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72hduwwe81.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> Message-ID: <40993759.6000203@adtran.com> I saw a strange one with FC2T3 while rebuilding a kernel on a Armada M700 laptop. * use ssh to login with two separate sessions (normal user acct). * use "su -" to become root on both sessions. In one case the first 'su -' worked fine, but the second session would abort the 'su -' command after the first char of the root password was entered. I was unable to 'su -' a second session over ssh and had to use the laptop keyboard/display instead. ron From kirillov at math.sunysb.edu Wed May 5 19:00:16 2004 From: kirillov at math.sunysb.edu (Alexander Kirillov) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:00:16 -0400 Subject: alsa mute In-Reply-To: <1083776940.2940.6.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> References: <1083275387.8077.2.camel@simba.lion> <40917E24.7080201@earthlink.net> <200404291843.39169.jent@spicylemons.com> <4091AE07.3040503@earthlink.net> <1083329815.2360.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040430153042.00a80027.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1083342163.2074.6.camel@Aristotle> <20040430194053.34977f61.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1083347998.2346.6.camel@Aristotle> <1083357072.1983.6.camel@Aristotle> <20040501004454.088ddaa8.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1083776940.2940.6.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> Message-ID: <1083783615.21683.0.camel@copiague> See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119866 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115932 Sasha On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 13:09, Timothy wrote: > I have a laptop with a Sis chipset Si7012 and a desktop with an > Ensoniq. The PCM slider is set to zero after each boot. After saving > the settings I just put a "alsactl restore" entry in rc.local to restore > my settings. Has (does) this need to be bugzilla'd? > > Timothy > > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 17:44, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:31:12 -0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 13:59, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > > > > > > /etc/asound.state is saved at shutdown, and running alsactl restore > > > > immediately after login does restore the correct values for PCM and > > > > other controls. So the problem seems to be that modprobe didn't run > > > > alsactl restore at startup. > > > > > > > > > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: MC'97 1 converters and GPIO not ready (0xff00) > > > > That is a modem detection message. > > > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured > > > 49596 usecs > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000 > > > > That configures your audio chipset to 48 kHz. > > > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command > > > for sound_slot_1 > > > > sound-slot-1 would be the second soundcard and OSS, sound-slot-0 the first. > > (/etc/modprobe.conf.dist handles the OSS stuff) > > > > > Apr 30 16:18:28 Aristotle last message repeated 2 times > > > Apr 30 16:22:01 Aristotle modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command > > > for sound_slot_1 > > > > > > Still can't understand why modprobe fails, though > > > > > > > > > OK, seems that these lines in sys log explain why: > > > > > > > > > From kas11 at tampabay.rr.com Wed May 5 19:03:21 2004 From: kas11 at tampabay.rr.com (Karen Spearel) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:03:21 -0400 Subject: troubles with nautilus on x86_64 In-Reply-To: References: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com> <409529DD.3030505@moongroup.com> <4095518D.30303@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <40993A79.7020600@tampabay.rr.com> csm at moongroup.com wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > So it's now the middle of the week and there has been no activity on the > bug report I made about nautilus. It's important (to me at least) that > people realize that this is a BLOCKER bug because gnome is not usable > with this bug in place. You only get about half the environment and as > wwe are approaching the freeze point it would seem that *THIS* kind of > bug would be quite interesting. > > On Sun, 2 May 2004, Chuck Mead spewed into the bitstream: > > CM>Chuck Mead wrote: > CM>> Chuck Mead wrote: > CM>> > CM>>> So night before last I installed FC2T3 on an Athlon64 3000+ with a k8v > CM>>> deluxe motherboard. Gnome has been a problem as nautilus dies when it > CM>>> tries to start. I have a bug report (see attached) for that which is > CM>>> going into bugzilla shortly. > CM> > CM>This has been submitted as bug 122298 > CM>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122298 > CM> > CM> > > - -- > csm at moongroup.com, head geek > http://moongroup.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAmTNyv6Gjsf2pQ0oRAhu0AJ9HozmaQ3oVsZvS1uJTBPMaLbtQhACfbTRD > aUtCeNkq54q4Zqo25QQi1/Q= > =ZDJQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Chuck, Hope you don't mind getting a message off list...I know you aren't a noob and this suggestion will make it seem like I think you are. With my K8V using standard Samsung DIMMs from the Asus approved list, I cannot make my system run reliably at 200 mhz FSB...this system just does ***not*** like high latency memory. I spent over 100 hrs trying various memory timings and never found anything that wouldn't throw an error at least once within 8 hrs. Eventually I gave up and switched to 166 mhz FSB. The errors were always above 1000 mb...and primarily triggered by Test 6. At the very least Memtest86+ V3.00 gives a little interesting data on what Asus BIOS uses for default settings. Running Test 6 for an extended period might possibly be interesting. The very bottom timing setting (cmd delay or something like that) was the only thing that helped but that didn't correct the problem entirely. BTW, these same DIMMs run fine on my Athlon XP system running a 200 mhz FSB...not exactly the same thing but at least I know the DIMMs are with spec. At 166, this K8V/3200+ is dead reliable...at 200 it simply isn't. Perhaps you are running faster memory...but I have seen reports of problems running fast DIMMs with Winbond dram also. I gain a little of the speed back by running the CPU in turbo mode...2052 mhz which doesn't seem to phaze the CPU...the problem here is simply on the memory bus...and this may indeed be a pcb layout problem...of course, Asus says the problem doesn't exist and I should run Windows. There is an article on the Muskin site about the Athlon 64 and memory that I found very interesting...and perhaps we know why the Opteron uses registered memory...even using 2 DIMMs unbuffered is really pushing the limits. Sorry to bother ya if you have been all thru this stuff...I know the frustrations...and since I am running FC2 T3 without any problems at all... HTH, KAS From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed May 5 19:14:07 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:14:07 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 on x86_64 Install good this time with NTFS & WINE going too Yay... References: <20040430041143.GA2113@jadzia.bu.edu><20040430114227.A5875@homebase.cluenet.de><1083325929.9382.2.camel@zephyr.its.unb.ca><20040430134557.GA19343@jadzia.bu.edu><1083333457.9382.13.camel@zephyr.its.unb.ca><20040430140518.GA20316@jadzia.bu.edu><1083335300.9382.21.camel@zephyr.its.unb.ca><1083336294.4218.2.camel@copiague> <1083336461.9382.25.camel@zephyr.its.unb.ca> Message-ID: pismobum wrote: > I had Tried to install FC2T2 and failed miserably > (Another failed install - both video and ide hard drives not detected - > posted 04-08-04) > This time EVERYTHING so far is beautiful!! Excellent job guys !!! > > Previous attempt I had trouble with video > from anaconda on, and was forced to > use the i386 version to even get it to load. > This time the x86_64 went flawlessly and > I even have the NVIDIA accelerated drivers working > using the suggestion pointing to minion.de but had to put a > "modprobe nvidia" into the etc/rc.d/rc.local to get it to work. > WINE installed ok straight from new download. > NTFS turned on and recompiled the kernel fine and working. > I haven't gotten around to trying the SATA yet, I'm scared though > because the spell checker tries to re-name it SATAN ;-). > but so far I'm totally stoked (sorry the old surfer in me). > Overall clean and looking very good. > Where did you find WINE?? From marshall at novafoundry.com Wed May 5 19:23:22 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:23:22 -0400 Subject: troubles with nautilus on x86_64 In-Reply-To: <40993A79.7020600@tampabay.rr.com> References: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com> <409529DD.3030505@moongroup.com> <4095518D.30303@moongroup.com> <40993A79.7020600@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <1083785002.2132.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> I didn't notice this thread before.. I've had this problem (on two x86_64 machines) and could not get it to clear until I did a clean re-install of Fedora... at least that fixed it on one machine. On the other machine downgrading to the shipped fc2t3 kernel fixed it, but then a later upgrade worked without trouble. Personally I think nautilus is being overly sensitive to system changes. I realize that isn't very helpful, but I never could determine a real cause, or get it to fail again once it was "fixed". Oh also, I first experienced this problem running an early rawhide version of FC2. -- Marshall On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:03, Karen Spearel wrote: > csm at moongroup.com wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > So it's now the middle of the week and there has been no activity on the > > bug report I made about nautilus. It's important (to me at least) that > > people realize that this is a BLOCKER bug because gnome is not usable > > with this bug in place. You only get about half the environment and as > > wwe are approaching the freeze point it would seem that *THIS* kind of > > bug would be quite interesting. > > > > On Sun, 2 May 2004, Chuck Mead spewed into the bitstream: > > > > CM>Chuck Mead wrote: > > CM>> Chuck Mead wrote: > > CM>> > > CM>>> So night before last I installed FC2T3 on an Athlon64 3000+ with a k8v > > CM>>> deluxe motherboard. Gnome has been a problem as nautilus dies when it > > CM>>> tries to start. I have a bug report (see attached) for that which is > > CM>>> going into bugzilla shortly. > > CM> > > CM>This has been submitted as bug 122298 > > CM>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122298 > > CM> > > CM> > > > > - -- > > csm at moongroup.com, head geek > > http://moongroup.com > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFAmTNyv6Gjsf2pQ0oRAhu0AJ9HozmaQ3oVsZvS1uJTBPMaLbtQhACfbTRD > > aUtCeNkq54q4Zqo25QQi1/Q= > > =ZDJQ > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > Chuck, > > Hope you don't mind getting a message off list...I know you aren't a > noob and this suggestion will make it seem like I think you are. > > With my K8V using standard Samsung DIMMs from the Asus approved list, I > cannot make my system run reliably at 200 mhz FSB...this system just > does ***not*** like high latency memory. I spent over 100 hrs trying > various memory timings and never found anything that wouldn't throw an > error at least once within 8 hrs. Eventually I gave up and switched to > 166 mhz FSB. The errors were always above 1000 mb...and primarily > triggered by Test 6. > > At the very least Memtest86+ V3.00 gives a little interesting data on > what Asus BIOS uses for default settings. Running Test 6 for an > extended period might possibly be interesting. The very bottom timing > setting (cmd delay or something like that) was the only thing that > helped but that didn't correct the problem entirely. BTW, these same > DIMMs run fine on my Athlon XP system running a 200 mhz FSB...not > exactly the same thing but at least I know the DIMMs are with spec. > > At 166, this K8V/3200+ is dead reliable...at 200 it simply isn't. > Perhaps you are running faster memory...but I have seen reports of > problems running fast DIMMs with Winbond dram also. I gain a little of > the speed back by running the CPU in turbo mode...2052 mhz which doesn't > seem to phaze the CPU...the problem here is simply on the memory > bus...and this may indeed be a pcb layout problem...of course, Asus says > the problem doesn't exist and I should run Windows. There is an article > on the Muskin site about the Athlon 64 and memory that I found very > interesting...and perhaps we know why the Opteron uses registered > memory...even using 2 DIMMs unbuffered is really pushing the limits. > > Sorry to bother ya if you have been all thru this stuff...I know the > frustrations...and since I am running FC2 T3 without any problems at all... > > HTH, > KAS > From csm at moongroup.com Wed May 5 19:35:08 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: troubles with nautilus on x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1083782705.3230.27.camel@zephyr.its.unb.ca> References: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com><409529DD.3030505@moongroup.com> <4095518D.30303@moongroup.com> <1083782705.3230.27.camel@zephyr.its.unb.ca> Message-ID: <33699.63.148.163.200.1083785708.squirrel@moongroup.com> Ben Steeves said: > On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:33, csm at moongroup.com wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> So it's now the middle of the week and there has been no activity on the >> bug report I made about nautilus. It's important (to me at least) that >> people realize that this is a BLOCKER bug because gnome is not usable >> with this bug in place. You only get about half the environment and as >> wwe are approaching the freeze point it would seem that *THIS* kind of >> bug would be quite interesting. > > Does this happen if you log in with a newly created user, with nothing > in their home directory? I've had Nautilus crash on startup because of > cruft lying around in my .gnome and .gnome2 directories. It was a fresh install with no existing home directories at all. The upstream author (who I notified) suggested that we might want to figure out why the package is trying to link against /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64. -- csm at moongroup.com Chief Tech and Bottle Washer From csm at moongroup.com Wed May 5 19:37:19 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: troubles with nautilus on x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1083785002.2132.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <40952986.8060101@moongroup.com><409529DD.3030505@moongroup.com> <4095518D.30303@moongroup.com><40993A79.7020600@tampabay.rr.com> <1083785002.2132.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <33704.63.148.163.200.1083785839.squirrel@moongroup.com> Marshall Lewis said: > I didn't notice this thread before.. I've had this problem (on two > x86_64 machines) and could not get it to clear until I did a clean > re-install of Fedora... at least that fixed it on one machine. On the > other machine downgrading to the shipped fc2t3 kernel fixed it, but then > a later upgrade worked without trouble. Personally I think nautilus is > being overly sensitive to system changes. I realize that isn't very > helpful, but I never could determine a real cause, or get it to fail > again once it was "fixed". > > Oh also, I first experienced this problem running an early rawhide > version of FC2. Well... this happened on an "upgrade install" and then I said phooey and did a completely new install and had the same problem. Then I downloaded the nautilus src.rpm's and rebuilt all of them except nautilus-media which will not build at all as it is trying to link against /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64. -- csm at moongroup.com Chief Tech and Bottle Washer From baron at psych.upenn.edu Wed May 5 19:39:26 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:39:26 -0400 Subject: MAIL="/var/spool/mail$USER" in /etc/csh.cshrc Message-ID: <20040505193926.GA13172@psych> I don't know when this started - I'm 'up2date' as of today - but this command didn't used to be there, and now it is there and it produces an error message: "Command not found". The mail system seems to work without it. Jon -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From fedora at andrewfarris.com Wed May 5 19:42:12 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 12:42:12 -0700 Subject: New Kernel Slow Boot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083786132.27268.10.camel@CirithUngol> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 11:22 +0300, Essam Mohsin wrote: > ... it boots with the new kernel but the screen shows very little > details " only that the kernel image decompressed then it will pause > for 10 seconds or more then the GUI screen comes I never noticed such > thing with previous versions of Linux Kernel 2.4.xx ---> > 2.6.5-1.327 Along with the suggestion of removing the kernel parameter 'quiet' you may have 'rhgb' appended to the parameters.. which will display the graphical boot program prior to displaying the login (gdm) screen. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From fedora at andrewfarris.com Wed May 5 19:34:16 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 12:34:16 -0700 Subject: Building NTFS modules from fedora kernel source packages In-Reply-To: <1083773920.6037.12.camel@oiktest> References: <1083139465.2188.29.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <1083150256.6649.1.camel@tarkus><1083151773.3847.25.camel@devel.mpeters.us> <1083155379.27002.23.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1083206415.24362.2.camel@orpheus.pcorp.com.au> <1083490785.2475.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083492049.2603.11.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <4094C8D6.6090007@gmx.de> <1083672269.532.1.camel@oiktest> <54471.64.238.64.1.1083681884.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <1083686992.532.112.camel@oiktest> <25705.64.238.64.1.1083767537.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <1083768142.6037.4.camel@oiktest> <52333.64.238.64.1.1083769846.squirrel@webmail.lnxfrk.net> <1083773920.6037.12.camel@oiktest> Message-ID: <1083785656.27268.6.camel@CirithUngol> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 17:18 +0100, Stefan Thierl wrote: > i've tried the steps using all the different kernel source packs i have > on my work machine: > linux-2.6.4-1.305 > linux-2.6.5-1.315 > linux-2.6.5-1.322 > linux-2.6.5-1.326 > linux-2.6.5-1.332 > linux-2.6.5-1.349 > > > the module builds fine on linux-2.6.4-1.305, linux-2.6.5-1.315, and > linux-2.6.5-1.322. From linux-2.6.5-1.326 onwards it throws up about a > mile of errors and I have no idea why. i presume you are getting the > same errors. > small snippet of them: > > [root at oiktest linux-2.6.5-1.326]# make modules SUBDIRS=fs/ntfs > CC [M] fs/ntfs/aops.o > In file included from fs/ntfs/aops.c:24: > include/linux/errno.h:4:23: asm/errno.h: No such file or directory > In file included from include/linux/mm.h:4, > from fs/ntfs/aops.c:25: > include/linux/sched.h:4:37: asm/param.h: No such file or directory > In file included from include/linux/types.h:13, > from include/linux/capability.h:16, > from include/linux/sched.h:7, > from include/linux/mm.h:4, > from fs/ntfs/aops.c:25: > include/linux/posix_types.h:47:29: asm/posix_types.h: No such file or > directory > In file included from include/linux/capability.h:16, > from include/linux/sched.h:7, > from include/linux/mm.h:4, > from fs/ntfs/aops.c:25: > include/linux/types.h:14:23: asm/types.h: No such file or directory > In file included from include/linux/capability.h:16, > from include/linux/sched.h:7, > from include/linux/mm.h:4, > from fs/ntfs/aops.c:25: > > if anyone could shed some light on this, it would be appreciated. I have rebuilt kernels 326, 327, and 332 and did not have any problems with the ntfs modules. I did however, rebuild the whole kernel at once, not just the ntfs subdir. I have not done 349 yet. > > > On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:32, Eric Beyer wrote: > > > > 8. Compile the NTFS module > > make modules SUBDIRS=fs/ntfs Just compile the kernel AND all the modules at this point. It really doesn't take that long. It should be possible to build just parts of the kernel fine.. but evidently it doesn't work for you. make all -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From Fred.New at microlink.ee Wed May 5 19:53:00 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:53:00 +0300 Subject: [FC2T3] Sound card failure CS4236B Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B52EA@eemail1.microlink.lan> On Wed 5/5/2004 7:01 PM, mike wrote: >> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:54 +0300, Fred New wrote: >> >> I have had bug >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115885 open for a >> while for my onboard ISAPnP CS4235. It doesn't look like the kernel and >> kudzu have ISAPnP working yet. I gave up and installed an Ensoniq 1371 >> that was lying around the office. >> >> Fred >> > >I've got one of these at home - no probs > >Have you tried mod-probing the driver ie: > >modprobe snd-cs4236 Well, I hadn't tried it lately, but an attempt just now gave the usual message: # modprobe snd-cs4236 FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.350/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): No such device (kernel-2.6.5-1.350) This worked under FC1 using OSS, but I never got it working under ALSA. But then, I never tried the ALSA packages from CCRMA Planet, either. Maybe there's a parameter I don't know how to set. I would be interested in hearing how you got yours to work. Fred -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Timothy On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 14:00, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > See: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119866 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115932 > > Sasha > > On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 13:09, Timothy wrote: > > I have a laptop with a Sis chipset Si7012 and a desktop with an > > Ensoniq. The PCM slider is set to zero after each boot. After saving > > the settings I just put a "alsactl restore" entry in rc.local to restore > > my settings. Has (does) this need to be bugzilla'd? > > > > Timothy > > > > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 17:44, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:31:12 -0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 13:59, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > > > > > > > > /etc/asound.state is saved at shutdown, and running alsactl restore > > > > > immediately after login does restore the correct values for PCM and > > > > > other controls. So the problem seems to be that modprobe didn't run > > > > > alsactl restore at startup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: MC'97 1 converters and GPIO not ready (0xff00) > > > > > > That is a modem detection message. > > > > > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured > > > > 49596 usecs > > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000 > > > > > > That configures your audio chipset to 48 kHz. > > > > > > > Apr 30 16:15:47 Aristotle modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command > > > > for sound_slot_1 > > > > > > sound-slot-1 would be the second soundcard and OSS, sound-slot-0 the first. > > > (/etc/modprobe.conf.dist handles the OSS stuff) > > > > > > > Apr 30 16:18:28 Aristotle last message repeated 2 times > > > > Apr 30 16:22:01 Aristotle modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command > > > > for sound_slot_1 > > > > > > > > Still can't understand why modprobe fails, though > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, seems that these lines in sys log explain why: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From peery at io.com Wed May 5 20:38:11 2004 From: peery at io.com (Alan Peery) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:38:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: MAIL="/var/spool/mail$USER" in /etc/csh.cshrc In-Reply-To: <20040505193926.GA13172@psych> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 May 2004, Jonathan Baron wrote: > I don't know when this started - I'm 'up2date' as of today - but > this command didn't used to be there, i It's not there on my system, and I just updated. Check /var/log/yum.log for updates via yum. Alan From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed May 5 20:37:53 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 21:37:53 +0100 Subject: Inclusion of mono Message-ID: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono with FC2? Really would make it a knockout product then IMO. TTFN Paul -- "There are four stages to any war First they ignore you, then they laugh at you Then they fight you, then YOU win." Ghandi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Unfortunately I cannot get through right now to see if that is the absolute latest version, but it certainly was this morning, and I think that is when the (very trivial) trouble started. Jon -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From markmc at redhat.com Wed May 5 20:41:51 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 21:41:51 +0100 Subject: Desktop switching tool problem In-Reply-To: <409807EF.1010304@earthlink.net> References: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> <1083627100.5813.11.camel@laptop> <409807EF.1010304@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1083789711.3062.9.camel@laptop> Hi, On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 22:15, Gerry Tool wrote: > Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > > > > Advance forewarning of impending catastrophe. We'll probably be > > removing switchdesk in FC3: > > > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-May/msg00010.html > > > > Cheers, > > Mark. > > > > > Reading the referenced message, it appears that even though switchdesk > is removed, one will still be able to select which gui to use at login. > Is this understanding correct? Yeah, basically GDM has code to allow you do it, but it disables that code if it sees that switchdesk is installed. You can switch that behaviour on even if switchdesk is installed by doing ShowLastSession=true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Cheers, Mark. From w.steenburg at myactv.net Wed May 5 20:47:04 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 16:47:04 -0400 Subject: Invalid context? In-Reply-To: <1083726961.1424.6.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> References: <1083726961.1424.6.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> Message-ID: <1083790024.2982.3.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 23:16, Joshua Adam Ginsberg wrote: > Hello -- > > I must admit I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to SELinux, but every > time I try to install a package, I get about a hundred lines of > "/etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context foo on line > number ###" with foo and ### different on each line. From reading the > archives, I gather I can boot with selinux=0 to avert the problem, but I > also gather that wouldn't be desirable. This is a brand, spankin' new > installation of FC2T3, so I'm wondering if I've done something wrong or > are doing something wrong. Thanks! > > -jag > > -- > Joshua Adam Ginsberg > Network Department, Brainstorm Internet > The selinux=0 kernel option is not supported as of 2.6.5-1.349 . Setting SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux is the "new and improved" way :) From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed May 5 20:48:59 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 16:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1322.12.29.16.103.1083790139.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Paul said: > Hi, > > Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono > with FC2? Given that it hasn't been in FC2Test1-FC2Test3 and "27 April test3, translation build freeze (builds completed) ... Continual freeze, only critical bugs fixed until release 7 May Absolute devel freeze" ( http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ )... Your answer is no. -- William Hooper From whb at ceimaine.org Wed May 5 20:51:32 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 16:51:32 -0400 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1322.12.29.16.103.1083790139.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1322.12.29.16.103.1083790139.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <1083790292.2488.32.camel@d1ntpm41> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 16:48, William Hooper wrote: > Paul said: > > Hi, > > > > Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono > > with FC2? > > Given that it hasn't been in FC2Test1-FC2Test3 and > "27 April test3, translation build freeze (builds completed) > ... Continual freeze, only critical bugs fixed until release > 7 May Absolute devel freeze" > ( http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ )... > > Your answer is no. > > -- > William Hooper > Don't know why everything has to be included in a distro. What ever happened to letting the software developers package for a distro? From sdhmis at sheratondover.com Wed May 5 20:54:36 2004 From: sdhmis at sheratondover.com (Kenneth Benson) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 16:54:36 -0400 Subject: Inclusion of mono Message-ID: In any case they have only just released the beta 1 for Mono 1.0. It will probably be at least one more beta then GA on Mono 1.0 and they are taking care of issues with beta 1 atm. -----Original Message----- From: Will Backman [mailto:whb at ceimaine.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 4:52 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Inclusion of mono On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 16:48, William Hooper wrote: > Paul said: > > Hi, > > > > Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono > > with FC2? > > Given that it hasn't been in FC2Test1-FC2Test3 and > "27 April test3, translation build freeze (builds completed) > ... Continual freeze, only critical bugs fixed until release > 7 May Absolute devel freeze" > ( http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ )... > > Your answer is no. > > -- > William Hooper > Don't know why everything has to be included in a distro. What ever happened to letting the software developers package for a distro? -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 5 20:48:56 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 16:48:56 -0400 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <36A7B415.31A4904@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:37:53 +0100, Paul wrote: > > Hi, > > Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono > with FC2? Really would make it a knockout product then IMO. This is really really really easy to answer. No. Besides other issues sourrounding mono. I think you have clearly missed the point of why there are testing releases for fedora at all. Its very late in the testing phase to add new software for fc2. Even if mono is close to 1.0, it hasnt been tested as part of the testing release process, and doing the integrated full distro testing is pretty important and adding something new last minute would undermine the work done through the testing releases. Instead work on maintaining packages in fedora.us as an addon to Core. -jef"screw it lets just drop the testing releases all together and roll out an official core release every week to make sure we keep up with the releases of all the possible software projects that can live in core"spaleta From czar at czarc.net Wed May 5 21:01:48 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 17:01:48 -0400 Subject: VMware and Fedora In-Reply-To: <4096B778.80409@redhat.com> References: <4093B52A.5030908@skyhouseconsulting.com> <1083617250.20142.240.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <4096B778.80409@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405051701.48582.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 03 May 2004 17:19, Warren Togami wrote: > Running FC2 Test3 and higher in VMWare is broken because VMWare needs to > implement vdso. For now you can use "vdso=0" boot option. It works for > me when running FC2 Test3 within VMWare 4.5.1 hosted on FC2 Test3. Thanks for the tip Warren ... vdso=0 now allows me to install FC2T3 as a guest. In fact, I installed FC2T3 as a guest on an older version of VMware (3.2.0) and with vdso=0 I successfully did a minimum install. But, once installed I got errors trying to run it. OK, so copy the files over to a FC2T3 system where I have VMware 4.5.1 installed ... works just fine (if a bit slow). Now my problem is that I cannot get a FC2T3 install under VMware 4.5.1 ... I intend to do an nfs install with just the boot.iso. Unfortunately, I cannot get VMware to boot the cdrom ... instead, it falls through to the network boot. Anyone successfully done a FC2T3 install under vmware 4.5.1? Anyone have any ideas about my problems? -- Gene From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed May 5 21:03:31 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 17:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1083790292.2488.32.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1322.12.29.16.103.1083790139.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1083790292.2488.32.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <2518.12.29.16.103.1083791011.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Will Backman said: > Don't know why everything has to be included in a distro. > What ever happened to letting the software developers package for a > distro? You mean like: http://dag.wieers.com/packages/mono/ -- William Hooper From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Wed May 5 22:16:15 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 01:16:15 +0300 Subject: Funnies with gnome and X on 1.92 In-Reply-To: <20040505104716.GA6381@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040505103047.GC4323@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> <20040505104716.GA6381@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083795374.3257.2.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 13:47, Alan Cox wrote: > The newest kernels have fixed several ugly DRI bugs that might be > relevant especially on intel i8xx hardware > Yes, even yesterday, glxgears and tuxracer killed my machine. After today's update including kernel .350, they both work. I was getting nervous. From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Wed May 5 22:21:59 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, ForrestX) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:21:59 -0700 Subject: OT Setting CPU Affinity In-Reply-To: <1083617583.24000.4.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <1083617583.24000.4.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <1083795719.29482.60.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 13:53, Sean Bruno wrote: > Sorry for the Off-Topic here, but I am testing FC2T3 on a Dual-Proc > machine and wanted to try a different test. > > Is there a command line application that can be used to lock a process > on a single CPU or logical CPU(HyperThreading)? I am running into a > performance lag with a Java app that seems to manifest itself under > multiple processors. Take a look at `run`. I've been using it since FC1. Forrest From aoliva at redhat.com Wed May 5 22:51:30 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 05 May 2004 19:51:30 -0300 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> <40990096.6050903@xmission.com> Message-ID: On May 5, 2004, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > I do have an odd problem at the moment though - if i build the firewire > driver from the kernel source, it builds fine, but this is what i get when > i try to load it: Make sure you remove `.yourlogin' from the Makefile version number. The different version makes insmod (or the kernel?) reject the module. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From chak at cse.unsw.edu.au Wed May 5 23:53:57 2004 From: chak at cse.unsw.edu.au (Manuel M T Chakravarty) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 09:53:57 +1000 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> <40990096.6050903@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1083801237.2541.33.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 04:23, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On May 5, 2004, RaXeT wrote: > > > Well I just don't understand. I can compile the firewire drivers in > > any of the kernels. Currently working very well in > > 2.6.5-1.350. Again why can't someone just go in and make the drivers > > modules in any future kernel is beyond me. > > The problem is that arjan got a lot of bug reports about boxes hanging > on boot, and it turned out to be a problem with firewire, so he took > it out, and now he won't turn it back up unless he's proven ieee1394 > is fixed. I know for fact that it isn't fixed, so we got into sort of > a stalemate. He talked me into believing it might be too risky to > ship FC2 with firewire support that would prevent even the installer > from booting for people who happen to have firewire controllers but > don't care about them (the majority), and that we'd be better off > shipping without firewire and issuing an update with it enabled, and > meanwhile I'd work on supplying people with firewire support for the > installer and the shipped kernel until this update goes out. > > I understand this is not ideal for a number of firewire users, myself > included, but it sounded like a reasonable trade off to me. > Unfortunate, but reasonable. I understand that you don't want to have systems freezing on people for a feature that they don't want in the first place. I guess many, if not most, firewire users don't need firewire at install time anyway, but rather on the system after installation to hook up their digital video camera or similar. So, I think the most important thing is to have a simple way of installing a firewire-enabled kernel as an option. As long as it is installed in addition to the non-firewire kernel, people can just boot back into the non-firewire kernel if the firewire-enabled one freezes their system. Are you going to release extra rpms for a firewire kernel? Cheers, Manuel From cra at WPI.EDU Thu May 6 00:36:02 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 20:36:02 -0400 Subject: MAIL="/var/spool/mail$USER" in /etc/csh.cshrc In-Reply-To: <20040505203833.GA22988@psych> References: <20040505193926.GA13172@psych> <20040505203833.GA22988@psych> Message-ID: <20040506003602.GU17668@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 04:38:33PM -0400, Jonathan Baron wrote: > rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/csh.cshrc > and the answer seems to be setup-2.5.32-1 > which was installed as part of today's update. Its a bug. It should be fixed in setup-2.5.33-1: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115376 From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu May 6 00:52:49 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 20:52:49 -0400 Subject: python distutils x86_64 problem (distutils needs update?) Message-ID: <200405052052.49704.ndbecker2@verizon.net> I just tried to build wxPython on x86_64 (athlon64) on Fedora core3 test 3. It didn't work. It looks like python is a 64-bit exec on this platform, and there is /usr/lib64/python2.3/ with what looks like the usual stuff.??There?is also a /usr/lib/python2.3, with not much in it, but I guess if you install a 32-bit python it would go there. Anyway, distutils/sysconfig.py def get_python_lib(... ??????if?os.name?==?"posix": ????????libpython?=?os.path.join(prefix, ?????????????????????????????????"lib",?"python"?+?get_python_version()) This is wrong, and it doesn't seem to give me anyway to overide the choice. Is there a fix? From knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za Thu May 6 01:05:10 2004 From: knxmay001 at mail.uct.ac.za (Maynard Kuona) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 03:05:10 +0200 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1083805510.6161.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 21:37 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono > with FC2? Really would make it a knockout product then IMO. > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > "There are four stages to any war > First they ignore you, then they laugh at you > Then they fight you, then YOU win." > Ghandi > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Wouldn't this be an excellent candidate for Fedora Extras. I think it is important for something like mono to be part of Fedora "unofficial" at least so that we do not have third parties packaging it since it is pretty big. It would also serve as a good way to test until it is included if it will ever be included. -- Maynard Kuona From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu May 6 00:59:09 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 20:59:09 -0400 Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf Message-ID: <200405052059.09306.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings; This is a resend, from my home account, no idea how it was sent thru the work account, which of course bounced... My old 233mhz P-II needs all the help it can get, so I was compiling a stripped down kernel. But I couldn't boot to it (no initrd, just modules) using the root=LABEL=/ in the grub command line. Fooled with it for several hours, then decided to use root=/dev/hda8 (home of the / partition) instead. Worked first time. What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels while its booting, but when I duplicate the grub entry but with the newer vmlinuz name, I have to use root=/dev/hda8? Or is this a real bug? -- Cheers, gene From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Thu May 6 01:01:31 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 20:01:31 -0500 Subject: GPG signature Message-ID: <40998E6B.4080607@sbcglobal.net> How do I get GPG signature and install . To satisfie up2date downloads. Jim Tate From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu May 6 01:02:28 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:02:28 -0400 Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf Message-ID: <200405052102.28857.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings; My old 233mhz P-II needs all the help it can get, so I was compiling a stripped down kernel. But I couldn't boot to it (no initrd, just modules) using the root=LABEL=/ in the grub command line. Fooled with it for several hours, then decided to use root=/dev/hdax instead. Worked first time. What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels while its booting, but when I duplicate the grub entry but with the newer vmlinuz name, I have to use root=/dev/hda8? -- Cheers, gene From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Thu May 6 01:03:12 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf In-Reply-To: <200405052059.09306.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200405052059.09306.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <64494.65.40.71.237.1083805392.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Gene Heskett said: > Greetings; > > This is a resend, from my home account, no idea how it was sent thru > the work account, which of course bounced... > > My old 233mhz P-II needs all the help it can get, so I was compiling a > stripped down kernel. But I couldn't boot to it (no initrd, just ^^^^^^^^^ > What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels while > its booting, IIRC using labels requires an initrd. -- William Hooper From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu May 6 01:11:31 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:11:31 -0400 Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf In-Reply-To: <64494.65.40.71.237.1083805392.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <200405052059.09306.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <64494.65.40.71.237.1083805392.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <200405052111.31399.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Wednesday 05 May 2004 21:03, William Hooper wrote: >Gene Heskett said: >> Greetings; >> >> This is a resend, from my home account, no idea how it was sent >> thru the work account, which of course bounced... >> >> My old 233mhz P-II needs all the help it can get, so I was >> compiling a stripped down kernel. But I couldn't boot to it (no >> initrd, just > > ^^^^^^^^^ > >> What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels >> while its booting, > >IIRC using labels requires an initrd. > No wonder I've had such poor luck with that! I've never used an initrd in my own kernel builds. I figure thats what /lib/modules/version_number is for. >-- >William Hooper -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Thu May 6 01:17:20 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: GPG signature In-Reply-To: <40998E6B.4080607@sbcglobal.net> References: <40998E6B.4080607@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <65276.65.40.71.237.1083806240.squirrel@65.40.71.237> jim tate said: > How do I get GPG signature and install . > To satisfie up2date downloads. > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg03246.html -- William Hooper From thisismyspamdump at rogers.com Thu May 6 01:17:15 2004 From: thisismyspamdump at rogers.com (thisismyspamdump at rogers.com) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:17:15 -0400 Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf Message-ID: <20040506011715.QJYY361128.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@localhost> I ran into the same issue when recompiling 2.6.5-1.349 earlier today. I deleted root=LABEL=/ rhgb altogether. I found the fix somewhere on google, not at home so I can't say where, but it was a support forum for a different distro, the issue there was with a 2.6.5 kernel update as well. Joe > > From: Gene Heskett > Date: 2004/05/05 Wed PM 08:59:09 EDT > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf > > Greetings; > > This is a resend, from my home account, no idea how it was sent thru > the work account, which of course bounced... > > My old 233mhz P-II needs all the help it can get, so I was compiling a > stripped down kernel. But I couldn't boot to it (no initrd, just > modules) using the root=LABEL=/ in the grub command line. > > Fooled with it for several hours, then decided to use root=/dev/hda8 > (home of the / partition) instead. Worked first time. > > What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels while > its booting, but when I duplicate the grub entry but with the newer > vmlinuz name, I have to use root=/dev/hda8? > > Or is this a real bug? > > -- > Cheers, gene > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > 1 From markf78 at yahoo.com Thu May 6 01:24:52 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 18:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <20040506005258.6939B73652@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040506012452.3429.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- > Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono > with FC2? Really would make it a knockout product then IMO. what's the difference between mono and the .GNU project? i looked over both websites and i was jsut curious if someone knows the answer to this question. the two look very similar; if they are the same, then which package will Fedora support in the future? thanks... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From bgerst at didntduck.org Thu May 6 01:37:59 2004 From: bgerst at didntduck.org (Brian Gerst) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 21:37:59 -0400 Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf In-Reply-To: <200405052059.09306.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200405052059.09306.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <409996F7.1070800@quark.didntduck.org> Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > This is a resend, from my home account, no idea how it was sent thru > the work account, which of course bounced... > > My old 233mhz P-II needs all the help it can get, so I was compiling a > stripped down kernel. But I couldn't boot to it (no initrd, just > modules) using the root=LABEL=/ in the grub command line. > > Fooled with it for several hours, then decided to use root=/dev/hda8 > (home of the / partition) instead. Worked first time. > > What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels while > its booting, but when I duplicate the grub entry but with the newer > vmlinuz name, I have to use root=/dev/hda8? > > Or is this a real bug? > LABEL=xxx is handled by the initrd created by mkinitrd. Ext2 must be built in to the kernel for it to work. -- Brian Gerst From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Thu May 6 01:42:51 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 20:42:51 -0500 Subject: HP Scanner Difficulties In-Reply-To: <40985224.9050502@earthlink.net> References: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> <40985224.9050502@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4099981B.2040106@austin.rr.com> Gerry Tool wrote: > > One thing I notice is that your scanner should be using the file > /proc/bus/usb/003/004, so change the permission of that file: > > chmod a+w /proc/bus/usb/003/004 > Yes, I copied that command after I had replugged it in (it changed) but it doesn't work even when making sure of correct ports/permissions. > Have you updated to sane-backends-1.0.13-6 from > ftp://people.redhat.com/twaugh/tmp/sane-backends/ ? [root at localhost root]# rpm -q sane-backends sane-backends-1.0.13-6 > > After that package is updated, you will find a file > /etc/usb/libsane.usermap which will contain the correct information > for you to update the /etc/sane.d/hp.conf properly. The entry in that > file should be of the form > > usb 0x____ 0x____. > Did you mean /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usermap? My scanner isn't in there, it is supported by the hpoj backend. Is there another file for this backend? Tim Waugh Wrote: >For PSC devices you should install libsane-hpoj -- my multifunction >scanner is working very well here and has been since FC1. [root at localhost root]# rpm -q libsane-hpoj libsane-hpoj-0.91-6 Is there some kind of config file I need to run first though? As I am not running any hpoj files or binaries, (except the one started by Kudzu). The scanner was auto found by kudzu as below snip from /etc/sysconfig/hwconf shows: class: OTHER bus: USB detached: 0 driver: unknown desc: "Hewlett-Packard psc 1200 series" usbclass: 0 usbsubclass: 0 usbprotocol: 0 usbbus: 3 usblevel: 1 usbport: 0 usbdev: 2 vendorId: 03f0 deviceId: 2f11 usbmfr: Hewlett-Packard usbprod: psc 1200 series Sorry for leaving this info out in the original post. -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 3 *x86_64* From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Thu May 6 01:48:53 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 20:48:53 -0500 Subject: CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN? In-Reply-To: <1083680700.20143.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <1083569159.13681.3.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083570294.29548.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083600238.14005.2.camel@ca-stmnca-cuda1-blade4c-122.stmnca.adelphia.net> <1083680700.20143.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <40999985.8010707@austin.rr.com> Dave Jones wrote: > >I've added a half dozen or so to the whitelist in the last month or two. >Send me your dmesg output, and I'll add it to the list. > > Dave > > Another for whitelist (Cbox 3 5 1/2 bay with 6in1 card reader (came with my motherboard)): Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: CBOX3 Model: USB Storage-SMC Rev: 300A Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 3 *x86_64* From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 6 02:02:06 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 21:02:06 -0500 Subject: HP Scanner Difficulties In-Reply-To: <4099981B.2040106@austin.rr.com> References: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> <40985224.9050502@earthlink.net> <4099981B.2040106@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <40999C9E.6030503@earthlink.net> Jason Knight wrote: >> After that package is updated, you will find a file >> /etc/usb/libsane.usermap which will contain the correct information >> for you to update the /etc/sane.d/hp.conf properly. The entry in that >> file should be of the form >> >> usb 0x____ 0x____. >> > Did you mean /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usermap? My scanner isn't in > there, it is supported by the hpoj backend. Is there another file for > this backend? Yes, I apologize for misleading you. > > Tim Waugh Wrote: > >> For PSC devices you should install libsane-hpoj -- my multifunction >> scanner is working very well here and has been since FC1. > > > [root at localhost root]# rpm -q libsane-hpoj > libsane-hpoj-0.91-6 > > Is there some kind of config file I need to run first though? I guess Tim will have to answer that question as I have no experience with the multifunction devices. Gerry From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu May 6 02:12:45 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:12:45 -0400 Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf In-Reply-To: <20040506011715.QJYY361128.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@localhost> References: <20040506011715.QJYY361128.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@localhost> Message-ID: <200405052212.45628.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Wednesday 05 May 2004 21:17, thisismyspamdump at rogers.com wrote: >I ran into the same issue when recompiling 2.6.5-1.349 earlier > today. I deleted root=LABEL=/ rhgb altogether. I found the fix > somewhere on google, not at home so I can't say where, but it was a > support forum for a different distro, the issue there was with a > 2.6.5 kernel update as well. > >Joe Yeah, I wondered about that rhgb in there too, particularly when I cd'd to the Documentation dir to read kernel-parameters.txt and found absolutely no mention of that option. I can't recall ATM if I killed that or not. I certainly took out the quiet, I wanna see whats screwing up! > >> From: Gene Heskett >> Date: 2004/05/05 Wed PM 08:59:09 EDT >> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf >> >> Greetings; >> >> This is a resend, from my home account, no idea how it was sent >> thru the work account, which of course bounced... >> >> My old 233mhz P-II needs all the help it can get, so I was >> compiling a stripped down kernel. But I couldn't boot to it (no >> initrd, just modules) using the root=LABEL=/ in the grub command >> line. >> >> Fooled with it for several hours, then decided to use >> root=/dev/hda8 (home of the / partition) instead. Worked first >> time. >> >> What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels >> while its booting, but when I duplicate the grub entry but with >> the newer vmlinuz name, I have to use root=/dev/hda8? >> >> Or is this a real bug? >> >> -- >> Cheers, gene >> >> >> >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > >1 -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 6 02:16:36 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 21:16:36 -0500 Subject: Desktop switching tool problem In-Reply-To: <1083789711.3062.9.camel@laptop> References: <409351B0.8040802@columbus.rr.com> <1083627100.5813.11.camel@laptop> <409807EF.1010304@earthlink.net> <1083789711.3062.9.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <4099A004.9080206@earthlink.net> Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 22:15, Gerry Tool wrote: > >>Mark McLoughlin wrote: >> >> >>> Advance forewarning of impending catastrophe. We'll probably be >>>removing switchdesk in FC3: >>> >>>http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-May/msg00010.html >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Mark. >>> >>> >> >>Reading the referenced message, it appears that even though switchdesk >>is removed, one will still be able to select which gui to use at login. >> Is this understanding correct? > > > Yeah, basically GDM has code to allow you do it, but it disables that > code if it sees that switchdesk is installed. You can switch that > behaviour on even if switchdesk is installed by doing > > ShowLastSession=true > > in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf > I made that change on my system and like the result much better than using switchdesk, anyway. That's the way RHL used to work and I preferred it that way. Thanks. Gerry Tool From gillb4 at telusplanet.net Thu May 6 03:00:35 2004 From: gillb4 at telusplanet.net (Bob Gill) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 21:00:35 -0600 Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf In-Reply-To: <200405052212.45628.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <20040506011715.QJYY361128.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@localhost> <200405052212.45628.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1083812435.7245.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 20:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 05 May 2004 21:17, thisismyspamdump at rogers.com wrote: > >I ran into the same issue when recompiling 2.6.5-1.349 earlier > > today. I deleted root=LABEL=/ rhgb altogether. I found the fix > > somewhere on google, not at home so I can't say where, but it was a > > support forum for a different distro, the issue there was with a > > 2.6.5 kernel update as well. > > > >Joe > Yeah, I wondered about that rhgb in there too, particularly when I > cd'd to the Documentation dir to read kernel-parameters.txt and found > absolutely no mention of that option. I can't recall ATM if I killed > that or not. I certainly took out the quiet, I wanna see whats > screwing up! > > > >> From: Gene Heskett > >> Date: 2004/05/05 Wed PM 08:59:09 EDT > >> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >> Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf > >> > >> Greetings; > >> > >> This is a resend, from my home account, no idea how it was sent > >> thru the work account, which of course bounced... > >> > >> My old 233mhz P-II needs all the help it can get, so I was > >> compiling a stripped down kernel. But I couldn't boot to it (no > >> initrd, just modules) using the root=LABEL=/ in the grub command > >> line. > >> > >> Fooled with it for several hours, then decided to use > >> root=/dev/hda8 (home of the / partition) instead. Worked first > >> time. > >> > >> What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels > >> while its booting, but when I duplicate the grub entry but with > >> the newer vmlinuz name, I have to use root=/dev/hda8? > >> > >> Or is this a real bug? > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers, gene > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> fedora-test-list mailing list > >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >> To unsubscribe: > >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > >1 > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly > Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message > by Gene Heskett are: > Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. > If I recall correctly (and you have to wonder about that), the labels went in before hotplug/udev came along so that there would be some permanance with respect to devices and mount points. As I seem to recall, /etc/fstab had to have the labels included as well (and maybe something else). I don't use labels for my own kernel builds, just give it the root partition device name. As for the ramdisk image, I usually build it (and have a little prompt/reminder in my kernel build script for me to do it): ... echo "Remember to edit /etc/lilo.conf for this kernel" echo "And then run /sbin/lilo and reboot (init 6)" echo "and make a boot initrd file by running" echo "/sbin/mkinitrd -v /boot/initrd-.img " # mv /boot/System.map /boot/System.map.old # cp -f System.map /boot rm /boot/initrd-$BUILD.img /sbin/mkinitrd -v /boot/initrd-$BUILD.img $BUILD echo "Ramdisk image pre-built. Check /boot and modify /boot/grub/grub.conf" (some parts of my build script are just a wee bit out of date). There isn't a lot of information on RedHat Graphical Boot (rhgb), but if you want to see what is going on, either "show details" or ctrl-F1 will get you there. I know before I switched to reiserfs for the boot partition, e2fsck could run for a while (unclean shutdown, file system sticky bit not set) in FC1 (and one could enjoy their time watching it run:) If you get to ctrl-F1 and want to go back to the graphical boot, use ctrl-F8 (one higher than X-windows). Have a good one, Bob From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu May 6 03:13:34 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 23:13:34 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it Message-ID: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. The firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No one can connect to the web server on the box. I have a router which blocks the ports, so Fedora does not need to have this job. Can anyone offer any suggestion to getting the port opened up. Thanks Dwaine. From trejalaustin at austin.rr.com Thu May 6 03:18:43 2004 From: trejalaustin at austin.rr.com (trejalaustin) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 22:18:43 -0500 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1083813523.3273.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> make sure it isn't your router blocking it i have a web server on fc2t3 and it works good. On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 22:13, Dwaine Garden wrote: > I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. The > firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No one > can connect to the web server on the box. > > I have a router which blocks the ports, so Fedora does not need to have > this job. Can anyone offer any suggestion to getting the port opened up. > > Thanks > Dwaine. > From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu May 6 03:25:22 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 23:25:22 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> Message-ID: <4099B022.2020202@rogers.com> Dwaine Garden wrote: > I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. > The firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No > one can connect to the web server on the box. > > I have a router which blocks the ports, so Fedora does not need to > have this job. Can anyone offer any suggestion to getting the port > opened up. > > Thanks > Dwaine. > > I checked the router. Everything is the same before I upgraded to Fedora from Redhat v9.0. How can I check on the box that port 80 is opened? Thanks Dwaine. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu May 6 03:29:48 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 23:29:48 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 DVD Installation Problem Message-ID: <4099B12C.4000601@rogers.com> The DVD boots just fine, but when anaconda loads. It dies with the following error message. anaconda failed. Permission denied.... Any guesses. Dwaine. From aoliva at redhat.com Thu May 6 03:33:15 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 06 May 2004 00:33:15 -0300 Subject: test3: I thought selinux was disabled In-Reply-To: <20040505181828.47251.qmail@web90105.mail.scd.yahoo.com> References: <20040505181828.47251.qmail@web90105.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On May 5, 2004, Brian Bober wrote: > I just installed test3 fresh. Why do I get these kinds of messages when I run > up2date for the first time and start downloading packages? Are these the > replacement for AVC errors, or are these something different?: selinux is disabled, but not really, unless you update to latest rawhide, whose kernel has a new feature that enables selinux to be fully disabled before a policy is loaded, such that /etc/sysconfig/selinux SELINUX=disabled can do that, instead of just leaving selinux enabled without any policy loaded. Before this new feature, in order to fully disable selinux you had to add selinux=0 to the boot command line. With the latest kernel, you no longer need selinux=0; setting SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux is equivalent, and you no longer get these rpm errors. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Thu May 6 03:34:51 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 06 May 2004 00:34:51 -0300 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1083801237.2541.33.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> <40990096.6050903@xmission.com> <1083801237.2541.33.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> Message-ID: On May 5, 2004, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: > Are you going to release extra rpms for a firewire kernel? I wasn't quite thinking of rpms, but I guess I could do that as well. Let's see... -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From icon at linux.duke.edu Thu May 6 03:25:00 2004 From: icon at linux.duke.edu (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 23:25:00 -0400 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1083805510.6161.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1083805510.6161.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4099B00C.3050005@linux.duke.edu> Maynard Kuona wrote: > It would also serve as a good way to test until it is > included if it will ever be included. I think this is actually where RH legal department will be quite useful. A lot of debate is whether Ximian MONO is actually a good thing for Linux, or whether we're heading straight for a Microsoft patent mousetrap. I am of the latter opinion, but it would be good to know what people actually versed in legalism think about this. Regards, -- Konstantin ("Icon") Ryabitsev Duke Physics Systems Admin, RHCE I am looking for a job in Canada! http://linux.duke.edu/~icon/cajob.ptml -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From spongers at cbbaz.com Thu May 6 03:53:53 2004 From: spongers at cbbaz.com (Sponger) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 20:53:53 -0700 Subject: VMware error with kernel-2.6.5-1.326 In-Reply-To: References: <1082058715.2006.22.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <200404152057.50671.fedora@warmcat.com> <200404160702.43316.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <4099B6D1.3030602@cbbaz.com> Hello, This is regarding this old post(I know IM SORRY!). I have followed all the instructions given in all these correspondences here, and am still having a problem installing vmware 4.05-6030. I untared the vmware-any-any-update59 into the VMWARE dircetory in my /home/sponger directory. Then I cd'ed into that update directory and ran ./runme.pl and it asks me for the directory of my C header files, and per the directions in one of the emails this is what I gave it: /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.332/build/kernel/ and this is the msg it gives me: "The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the same address space size as your running kernel." So then being a noob I tried all the other directories in /lib/modules of the other kernels installed on my system, but then it complains thats not the right kernel and wants the .332 version....but it gives me that error..... Any ideas? TIA Dave Efthym wrote: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:02:38 +0000, Andy Green > wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Friday 16 April 2004 04:58, Efthym wrote: >> >>> Kernel: 2.6.5-1.322 >>> VMWare: 4.0.5 6030 >>> patch: vmware-any-any-update59 >>> >>> The drivers compiled and worked ok for me after updating to >>> any-any-update59. >>> Encountered problem "Permission denied" error running vmware-config.pl. >>> setenforce 0, then >>> ./runme.pl did the trick. >> >> >> I really owe that Czech guy a beer ot two, but even v59 of his patch >> (at the >> time of my last mail, v58 was the latest) is not working here on >> kernel .322 >> > > Just upgraded to 4.5.1 Build 7568. > > [root at Purgatory vmware-any-any-update59]# setenforce 0 > [root at Purgatory vmware-any-any-update59]# ./runme.pl > > Driver compiles and workes OK ! > > Did you check /var/log/messages for any errors ? > Make sure you are running runme.pl from the any-any update and not > vmware-config.pl. runme.pl replaces the sources for the vmmon and > vmnet modules, and then calls vmware-config.pl > > From steve_dum at mentorg.com Thu May 6 03:53:04 2004 From: steve_dum at mentorg.com (steve_dum at mentorg.com) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 20:53:04 -0700 Subject: Downloading the 4GB DVD iso Message-ID: <200405060353.i463r4LM007766@pinon.wv.mentorg.com> On this thread a while back there was some discussion about ftp clients for windows that were able to deal with > 2Gb files --- What about a linux client? Everything I try gets really freeked out with this large filesize. Either they don't work at all, or download the first 2 Gb. I was able to convince curl to get about 4G -2 bytes of the file, but I couldn't get it to get the last 80Mb of the file. These programs that store filesize in a 32 bit long int just don't make it. Are there any linux (redhat 7, 8, 9, or FC 1) clients that can actually deal with these large filesizes besides bittorrant. thanks, steve From jdueitt at bu.edu Thu May 6 03:39:21 2004 From: jdueitt at bu.edu (Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr.) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 23:39:21 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> If you execute iptables -L it should give you a listing of your iptables rules. This will tell you if iptables is blocking your port. On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 23:13, Dwaine Garden wrote: > I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. The > firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No one > can connect to the web server on the box. > > I have a router which blocks the ports, so Fedora does not need to have > this job. Can anyone offer any suggestion to getting the port opened up From thisismyspamdump at rogers.com Thu May 6 04:44:42 2004 From: thisismyspamdump at rogers.com (Joe Reid) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 00:44:42 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> Message-ID: <1083818681.2902.1.camel@bean> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 23:39, Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr. wrote: > --=-GFfo/kHuGgNaKy4AY1SC > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > If you execute iptables -L it should give you a listing of your iptables > rules. This will tell you if iptables is blocking your port. You may also want to check and see if apache is set uporrectly to listed on this port. netstat -at and check for a LISTEN on port 80. Joe From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu May 6 05:10:24 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 01:10:24 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> Message-ID: <4099C8C0.60909@rogers.com> Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr. wrote: >If you execute iptables -L it should give you a listing of your iptables >rules. This will tell you if iptables is blocking your port. > >On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 23:13, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > >>I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. The >>firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No one >>can connect to the web server on the box. >> >>I have a router which blocks the ports, so Fedora does not need to have >>this job. Can anyone offer any suggestion to getting the port opened u >> >p= > Here is the shell output.... [root at www root]# iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination [root at www root]# Looks like the firewall is off. Dwaine. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu May 6 05:12:17 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 01:12:17 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <1083818681.2902.1.camel@bean> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> <1083818681.2902.1.camel@bean> Message-ID: <4099C931.9010509@rogers.com> Joe Reid wrote: >On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 23:39, Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr. wrote: > > >>--=-GFfo/kHuGgNaKy4AY1SC >>Content-Type: text/plain >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >>If you execute iptables -L it should give you a listing of your iptables >>rules. This will tell you if iptables is blocking your port. >> >> > >You may also want to check and see if apache is set uporrectly to listed >on this port. netstat -at and check for a LISTEN on port 80. > >Joe > > > > Here is the output.... [root at www root]# netstat -at Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp 0 0 *:printer *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *:smux *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *:mysql *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *:netbios-ssn *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *:sunrpc *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *:x11 *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *:http *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 localhost:ipp *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *:9753 *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 localhost:smtp *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *:microsoft-ds *:* LISTEN [root at www root]# Looks like http is listening. I do not get it. Just after upgrading to Fedora Test 3 from RH9. Nothing. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu May 6 05:48:19 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 01:48:19 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <1083821610.29261.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> <4099C8C0.60909@rogers.com> <1083821610.29261.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> Message-ID: <4099D1A3.9020606@rogers.com> Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr. wrote: >Yeah, that would indicate that you are good to go on the iptables rules. >I was wondering if you could connect to the daemon running on port 80 >from the localhost. IE: launch lynx or some other browser and point it >at localhost from the webserver. Just a thought. >-Jerry. > > Try from your end. http://www.emuit.com/webcam.html let me know if it works... Dwaine. From thisismyspamdump at rogers.com Thu May 6 05:51:52 2004 From: thisismyspamdump at rogers.com (Joe Reid) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 01:51:52 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <4099D1A3.9020606@rogers.com> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> <4099C8C0.60909@rogers.com> <1083821610.29261.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> <4099D1A3.9020606@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1083822712.2902.4.camel@bean> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 01:48, Dwaine Garden wrote: > Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr. wrote: > > >Yeah, that would indicate that you are good to go on the iptables rules. > >I was wondering if you could connect to the daemon running on port 80 > >from the localhost. IE: launch lynx or some other browser and point it > >at localhost from the webserver. Just a thought. > >-Jerry. > > > > > Try from your end. > > http://www.emuit.com/webcam.html > > let me know if it works... > > Dwaine. Doesn't look like it, no DNS resolution: [root at bean headers]# nslookup www.emuit.com Server: 192.168.1.1 Address: 192.168.1.1#53 ** server can't find www.emuit.com: NXDOMAIN [root at bean headers]# nslookup www.emuit.com 24.153.23.66 Server: 24.153.23.66 Address: 24.153.23.66#53 ** server can't find www.emuit.com: NXDOMAIN Joe From jdueitt at bu.edu Thu May 6 06:04:46 2004 From: jdueitt at bu.edu (Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr.) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 02:04:46 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <1083822712.2902.4.camel@bean> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> <4099C8C0.60909@rogers.com> <1083821610.29261.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> <4099D1A3.9020606@rogers.com> <1083822712.2902.4.camel@bean> Message-ID: <1083823486.29727.2.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> Yeah the name resolution is what is throwing it off. On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 01:51, Joe Reid wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 01:48, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr. wrote: > > > > >Yeah, that would indicate that you are good to go on the iptables rules. > > >I was wondering if you could connect to the daemon running on port 80 > > >from the localhost. IE: launch lynx or some other browser and point it > > >at localhost from the webserver. Just a thought. > > >-Jerry. > > > > > > > > Try from your end. > > > > http://www.emuit.com/webcam.html > > > > let me know if it works... > > > > Dwaine. > > Doesn't look like it, no DNS resolution: > [root at bean headers]# nslookup www.emuit.com > Server: 192.168.1.1 > Address: 192.168.1.1#53 > > ** server can't find www.emuit.com: NXDOMAIN > > [root at bean headers]# nslookup www.emuit.com 24.153.23.66 > Server: 24.153.23.66 > Address: 24.153.23.66#53 > > ** server can't find www.emuit.com: NXDOMAIN > > Joe > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Worked first time. > > What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels while > its booting, but when I duplicate the grub entry but with the newer > vmlinuz name, I have to use root=/dev/hda8? Maybe try labeling your root filesystem as: root=LABEL=/1 ^^ I have a dual-boot FC1/FC2t3 on my system and I *think* the FC2t3 is labeled like that for this very purpose - to differentiate the two different / filesystem's at boot. Can anyone verify this? i.e.: ## FC1 ## # e2label /dev/hda2 /boot # e2label /dev/hda5 / ## FC2t3 ## # e2label /dev/hda11 /boot1 # e2label /dev/hda13 /1 Regards, -Matt -- "Would you buy a car with the hood welded shut?" - Bob Young on the benefits of the open source development model. mhelios - www.fedoraforum.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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TTFN Paul -- "There are four stages to any war First they ignore you, then they laugh at you Then they fight you, then YOU win" Ghandi From peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de Thu May 6 07:49:16 2004 From: peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de (Peter Klein) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 09:49:16 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks Message-ID: <1083829756.4928.30.camel@merkur56> Hi, I have a problem installing FC2Test3 (to be honest I have the identical problem with Test2...). My hardware consists of a ASUS M6700N Notebook ( http://www.asus.com/products/notebook/m6series/m6000n/m6000n_overview.htm ) The install (text mode) runs fine (standard WS setup) until I reboot for the first time: The graphics is shown in 640x480 resolution and no matter what I choose the result is a black screen without any reaction (no other console available, no ssh login possible). And even more anoying: there is no way (at least I didn't found one...) to boot in normal text mode. The same Notebook runs fine under Suse9.1. Concerning the Graphic-Setup: Would it be a big deal to include LCDs and Resolutions for Wide Screen? E.g. 1280x800 or 1680x1050?? What am users suppose to choose if they have 1280x800 LCD panel? Best regards, Peter From agalal at moheet.com Thu May 6 09:06:39 2004 From: agalal at moheet.com (AymanM. Galal) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:06:39 +0200 Subject: fedora core 2 test 3 problem with monitor Message-ID: <010d01c43349$713bf340$b94583d5@redhat> Hi All, i have problem with fedora core 2 test 3 ,i just installed it but when i reboot the machine it didn't login with xwindows. the monitor just get balck. can any one help me on this. my monitor type is view sonic From twaugh at redhat.com Thu May 6 08:26:42 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 09:26:42 +0100 Subject: HP Scanner Difficulties In-Reply-To: <4099981B.2040106@austin.rr.com> References: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> <40985224.9050502@earthlink.net> <4099981B.2040106@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040506082642.GB9828@redhat.com> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 08:42:51PM -0500, Jason Knight wrote: > >For PSC devices you should install libsane-hpoj -- my multifunction > >scanner is working very well here and has been since FC1. > > [root at localhost root]# rpm -q libsane-hpoj > libsane-hpoj-0.91-6 > > Is there some kind of config file I need to run first though? As I am > not running any hpoj files or binaries, (except the one started by > Kudzu). The scanner was auto found by kudzu as below snip from > /etc/sysconfig/hwconf shows: There's no automatic detection for hpoj devices yet I'm afraid. You need to run 'service hpoj setup' as root first. Access permissions are handled completely differently to normal USB devices. When setting the printer up make sure to use PTAL rather than USB. Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nadiizu at earthlink.net Wed May 5 23:33:39 2004 From: nadiizu at earthlink.net (Nadeem Bitar) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 16:33:39 -0700 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks In-Reply-To: <1083829756.4928.30.camel@merkur56> References: <1083829756.4928.30.camel@merkur56> Message-ID: <1083800018.19130.4.camel@miharu> When you boot edit grub and append single to the kernel line, that would boot your machine into single user mode. You should use the radeon driver for your graphic card. On ?, 2004-05-06 at 09:49 +0200, Peter Klein wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem installing FC2Test3 (to be honest I have the identical > problem with Test2...). My hardware consists of a ASUS M6700N Notebook > ( > http://www.asus.com/products/notebook/m6series/m6000n/m6000n_overview.htm > ) > The install (text mode) runs fine (standard WS setup) until I reboot for > the first time: The graphics is shown in 640x480 resolution and no > matter what I choose the result is a black screen without any reaction > (no other console available, no ssh login possible). And even more > anoying: there is no way (at least I didn't found one...) to boot in > normal text mode. > The same Notebook runs fine under Suse9.1. > Concerning the Graphic-Setup: Would it be a big deal to include LCDs and > Resolutions for Wide Screen? E.g. 1280x800 or 1680x1050?? What am users > suppose to choose if they have 1280x800 LCD panel? > > Best regards, > Peter > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de Thu May 6 08:49:31 2004 From: peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de (Peter Klein) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 10:49:31 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks In-Reply-To: <1083800018.19130.4.camel@miharu> References: <1083829756.4928.30.camel@merkur56> <1083800018.19130.4.camel@miharu> Message-ID: <1083833371.4928.33.camel@merkur56> Am Don, den 06.05.2004 schrieb Nadeem Bitar um 1:33: > When you boot edit grub and append single to the kernel line, that would > boot your machine into single user mode. You should use the radeon > driver for your graphic card. radeon (generic) - was one of my choices ... didn't work either (other attempts: VESA Modes, ATI 350 series, ATI 9600) > From jos at xos.nl Thu May 6 08:57:44 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 10:57:44 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks In-Reply-To: <1083833371.4928.33.camel@merkur56>; from peter.klein@uni-konstanz.de on Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:49:31AM +0200 References: <1083829756.4928.30.camel@merkur56> <1083800018.19130.4.camel@miharu> <1083833371.4928.33.camel@merkur56> Message-ID: <20040506105744.A15899@xos037.xos.nl> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:49:31AM +0200, Peter Klein wrote: > radeon (generic) - was one of my choices ... didn't work either > (other attempts: VESA Modes, ATI 350 series, ATI 9600) So you did try the "vesa" driver? FWIW: my ASUS M6K *non*-widescreen works fine with both the VESA and the ATI-proprietary driver, but I only tried that with RHEL3 and XFree86. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From nadiizu at earthlink.net Wed May 5 23:45:44 2004 From: nadiizu at earthlink.net (Nadeem Bitar) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 16:45:44 -0700 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks In-Reply-To: <1083833371.4928.33.camel@merkur56> References: <1083829756.4928.30.camel@merkur56> <1083800018.19130.4.camel@miharu> <1083833371.4928.33.camel@merkur56> Message-ID: <1083800743.19130.6.camel@miharu> Here is the driver section from my xorg.conf file. Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard 0" Driver "radeon" Option "NoDCC" EndSection Between I have the Dell Inspiron 9100. Hope this helps. On ?, 2004-05-06 at 10:49 +0200, Peter Klein wrote: > Am Don, den 06.05.2004 schrieb Nadeem Bitar um 1:33: > > When you boot edit grub and append single to the kernel line, that would > > boot your machine into single user mode. You should use the radeon > > driver for your graphic card. > radeon (generic) - was one of my choices ... didn't work either > (other attempts: VESA Modes, ATI 350 series, ATI 9600) > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu May 6 09:10:02 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 11:10:02 +0200 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> <40990096.6050903@xmission.com> <1083801237.2541.33.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <409A00EA.2050103@gmx.de> Alexandre Oliva wrote: >On May 5, 2004, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: > >>Are you going to release extra rpms for a firewire kernel? >> >> great idea :-) >I wasn't quite thinking of rpms, but I guess I could do that as well. >Let's see... > please, ... thanks :-) -- shrek-m From peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de Thu May 6 09:11:23 2004 From: peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de (Peter Klein) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 11:11:23 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks In-Reply-To: <20040506105744.A15899@xos037.xos.nl> References: <1083829756.4928.30.camel@merkur56> <1083800018.19130.4.camel@miharu> <1083833371.4928.33.camel@merkur56> <20040506105744.A15899@xos037.xos.nl> Message-ID: <1083834682.4928.37.camel@merkur56> Am Don, den 06.05.2004 schrieb Jos Vos um 10:57: > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:49:31AM +0200, Peter Klein wrote: > > > radeon (generic) - was one of my choices ... didn't work either > > (other attempts: VESA Modes, ATI 350 series, ATI 9600) > > So you did try the "vesa" driver? YES It doesn't matter what I choose... even the 640x480 resolution (which shows me the menu for selecting my graphics hardware (why does this work? framebuffer device?) kills the computer (only hard reset will bring it back) > > FWIW: my ASUS M6K *non*-widescreen works fine with both the VESA > and the ATI-proprietary driver, but I only tried that with RHEL3 > and XFree86. > AFAIK XFree86 is not the standard X Server for the upcoming FC2?! > -- > -- Jos Vos > -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 > -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 -- Peter Klein (Dipl. Inform.) University of Konstanz +49 (0)7531 88-3066 Computer & Information Science peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de Work-Group: Human-Computer Interaction/Box D73 http://www.inf.uni-konstanz.de 78457 Konstanz, Germany From peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de Thu May 6 09:12:08 2004 From: peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de (Peter Klein) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 11:12:08 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks In-Reply-To: <1083800743.19130.6.camel@miharu> References: <1083829756.4928.30.camel@merkur56> <1083800018.19130.4.camel@miharu> <1083833371.4928.33.camel@merkur56> <1083800743.19130.6.camel@miharu> Message-ID: <1083834726.4928.39.camel@merkur56> Am Don, den 06.05.2004 schrieb Nadeem Bitar um 1:45: > Here is the driver section from my xorg.conf file. > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard 0" > Driver "radeon" > Option "NoDCC" > EndSection > Thanks, as soon as I am able to login I'll try it ;-) > Between I have the Dell Inspiron 9100. > > Hope this helps. > > On ?, 2004-05-06 at 10:49 +0200, Peter Klein wrote: > > Am Don, den 06.05.2004 schrieb Nadeem Bitar um 1:33: > > > When you boot edit grub and append single to the kernel line, that would > > > boot your machine into single user mode. You should use the radeon > > > driver for your graphic card. > > radeon (generic) - was one of my choices ... didn't work either > > (other attempts: VESA Modes, ATI 350 series, ATI 9600) > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Peter Klein (Dipl. Inform.) University of Konstanz +49 (0)7531 88-3066 Computer & Information Science peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de Work-Group: Human-Computer Interaction/Box D73 http://www.inf.uni-konstanz.de 78457 Konstanz, Germany From fedora at andrewfarris.com Thu May 6 09:12:32 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 02:12:32 -0700 Subject: fedora core 2 test 3 problem with monitor In-Reply-To: <010d01c43349$713bf340$b94583d5@redhat> References: <010d01c43349$713bf340$b94583d5@redhat> Message-ID: <1083834752.2076.51.camel@CirithUngol> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 11:06 +0200, AymanM. Galal wrote: > Hi All, > > i have problem with fedora core 2 test 3 ,i just installed it but when i > reboot the machine it didn't login with xwindows. > the monitor just get balck. > > can any one help me on this. > > my monitor type is view sonic More detailed information is necessary, please send your motherboard and video card type (and models/manufacturers, mobo chipset), your monitor model. Do the text terminals work fine? If so then send along the output of '/sbin/lspci'. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ pure speculation #1) you have a GeForce FX card (a 5200?) and the X config is attempting to use the 'vesa' driver (or some other incorrect driver). /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which should be the config file now rather than /etc/X11/XF86Config) should contain: Driver "nv" -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From jos at xos.nl Thu May 6 09:18:39 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:18:39 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks In-Reply-To: <1083834682.4928.37.camel@merkur56>; from peter.klein@uni-konstanz.de on Thu, May 06, 2004 at 11:11:23AM +0200 References: <1083829756.4928.30.camel@merkur56> <1083800018.19130.4.camel@miharu> <1083833371.4928.33.camel@merkur56> <20040506105744.A15899@xos037.xos.nl> <1083834682.4928.37.camel@merkur56> Message-ID: <20040506111839.A16020@xos037.xos.nl> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 11:11:23AM +0200, Peter Klein wrote: > > FWIW: my ASUS M6K *non*-widescreen works fine with both the VESA > > and the ATI-proprietary driver, but I only tried that with RHEL3 > > and XFree86. > > > AFAIK XFree86 is not the standard X Server for the upcoming FC2?! True, that's why I included the "FWIW" ;-). Maybe I'll try FC2t3 on my laptop when I have time to see how that works with a 4x3 screen. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl Thu May 6 09:20:43 2004 From: jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl (David Jansen) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:20:43 +0200 Subject: error for tcsh users in FC2T3 Message-ID: <20040506092043.GA25917@strw.leidenuniv.nl> Since a couple of days, users who have tcsh as their shell get an error on login: MAIL=/var/spool/mail/jansen: Command not found. And indeed, the last line of /etc/csh.cshrc is: MAIL="/var/spool/mail/$USER" The error was not present directly after installing FC2Test3, it came with an update: $ rpm -qf /etc/csh.cshrc setup-2.5.32-1 $ ls -l /etc/csh.cshrc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 592 May 5 05:52 /etc/csh.cshrc David Jansen From baron at psych.upenn.edu Thu May 6 09:23:04 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 05:23:04 -0400 Subject: error for tcsh users in FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <20040506092043.GA25917@strw.leidenuniv.nl> References: <20040506092043.GA25917@strw.leidenuniv.nl> Message-ID: <20040506092304.GB24775@psych> This was discussed in another message on this list. It is a reported bug, and it will be fixed in the next version of setup. On 05/06/04 11:20, David Jansen wrote: >Since a couple of days, users who have tcsh as their shell get an error >on login: >MAIL=/var/spool/mail/jansen: Command not found. > >And indeed, the last line of /etc/csh.cshrc is: >MAIL="/var/spool/mail/$USER" > >The error was not present directly after installing FC2Test3, it came >with an update: > >$ rpm -qf /etc/csh.cshrc >setup-2.5.32-1 >$ ls -l /etc/csh.cshrc >-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 592 May 5 05:52 /etc/csh.cshrc > >David Jansen > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From Fred.New at microlink.ee Thu May 6 09:29:02 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:29:02 +0300 Subject: fedora core 2 test 3 problem with monitor Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E15@eemail1.microlink.lan> On May 6, 2004, at 12:07, AymanM. Galal wrote: > i have problem with fedora core 2 test 3 ,i just installed > it but when i > reboot the machine it didn't login with xwindows. > the monitor just get balck. > > can any one help me on this. > > my monitor type is view sonic X wouldn't start for me after I freshly installed test 3. The virtual consoles still worked, so I started installing the latest updates. X started up in the middle of the update process. I don't know if it means anything, but I happen to have a ViewSonic monitor, too (at home, so I can't give the model number). Fred From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Thu May 6 09:37:48 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 10:37:48 +0100 Subject: [FC2T3] Sound card failure CS4236B In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B52EA@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B52EA@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <1083836268.9284.30.camel@datacontrol> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 22:53 +0300, Fred New wrote: > On Wed 5/5/2004 7:01 PM, mike wrote: > > >> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:54 +0300, Fred New wrote: > >> > >> I have had bug > >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115885 open for a > >> while for my onboard ISAPnP CS4235. It doesn't look like the kernel and > >> kudzu have ISAPnP working yet. I gave up and installed an Ensoniq 1371 > >> that was lying around the office. > >> > >> Fred > >> > > > >I've got one of these at home - no probs > > > >Have you tried mod-probing the driver ie: > > > >modprobe snd-cs4236 > > Well, I hadn't tried it lately, but an attempt just now gave the usual message: > # modprobe snd-cs4236 > FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.350/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): No such device > > (kernel-2.6.5-1.350) > > This worked under FC1 using OSS, but I never got it working under ALSA. But then, I never tried the ALSA packages from CCRMA Planet, either. Maybe there's a parameter I don't know how to set. I would be interested in hearing how you got yours to work. > nothing special - I'll have a look at my modprobe.conf when I get home > Fred > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From christian at j-son.org Thu May 6 09:57:32 2004 From: christian at j-son.org (Christian Joensson) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:57:32 +0200 Subject: [FC2T3] Sound card failure CS4236B In-Reply-To: <1083772861.9284.13.camel@datacontrol> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E14@eemail1.microlink.lan> <1083772861.9284.13.camel@datacontrol> Message-ID: <20040506095732.GA21522@pentium3.j-son.org> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 05:01:01PM +0100, mike wrote: > On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:54 +0300, Fred New wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2004 at 15:45, Christian Joensson wrote: > > > This is on a Fedora Core 2, test 3, system running linux kernel > > > 2.6.5-1.327smp. > > > > > > I cannot get the isapnp: Card 'CS4236B' to work... > > > > > > Any hint on where to go? > > > > > > Attached is the dmesg output. Note that I started with acpi=off to get > > > going with smp... > > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > Have you tried mod-probing the driver ie: > > modprobe snd-cs4236 works now, but what do I put in modprobe.conf? From vibol at khmer.cc Thu May 6 11:01:55 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 04:01:55 -0700 Subject: Suspend to S1 on 2.6.5-1.350 Message-ID: <409A1B23.9060300@khmer.cc> When I suspend into level S1 (echo 1 > /proc/acpi/sleep), it goes into the S1 state, but I cannot get back out of it the first try. First time hitting suspend: Stopping tasks: ======================================================== ======| PM: Entering state. I hit power button, system appears to come out of S1 but then drops right back in: Stopping tasks: ======================================================== ======| PM: Entering state. Back to C! PM: Finishing up. PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.0 to 64 blk: queue 31d1f574, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) drivers/acpi/osl.c:728: spin_lock(drivers/acpi/osl.c:31edaf84) already locked by drivers/acpi/osl.c/728 drivers/acpi/osl.c:747: spin_lock(drivers/acpi/osl.c:31edaf84) not locked Restarting tasks... done Stopping tasks: ======================================================== ======| PM: Entering state. I press the power button again and then it actually gets out of S1. This cycle appears to happen consistently once the system is back up. Hitting suspend puts it in suspend; trying to get out puts it back in suspend; and the third or fourth try works. The messages that show up also differ sometimes but don't pertain to PM stuff (I don't think); if anyone wants to see them, I'll type them up. I'm running on a Dell C400 P3 1.2 w/784MB ram. Also, is there any way to get the kernel not to display these messages and leave the screen turned off (or turn of the screen)? I'm sure it's on for debugging purposes, but I'd like to try to conserve some battery life :) Should recompiling the kernel be the solution, must I patch or is there a menuconfig option? -Vibol From jamesjones01 at mchsi.com Thu May 6 11:08:09 2004 From: jamesjones01 at mchsi.com (James Jones) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 06:08:09 -0500 Subject: upgrade from FC1 to FC2 test 3 seems to leave things unfinished Message-ID: <409A1C99.4040207@mchsi.com> Having successfully installed FC2 test 3 on an old computer and watched it work, I decided to upgrade an FC1 machine to FC2 test 3. All apparently progressed normally until I rebooted, and was presented with the grub splash screen...but no Fedora choice! I booted from Knoppix and looked at /boot, and found the following: -- Sure enough, /boot/grub/grub.conf had all Linux choices deleted from it. -- In /boot, vmlinuz was still linked to the FC1 version, ditto for System.map. -- Also in /boot, there was no initrd for FC2! Over in /etc, I saw a modules.conf~ and a modules.conf.pre26, but no modules.conf. I tried upgrading it to itself, but that did not help. Fortunately, I'd backed up immediately before starting the upgrade, so I bit the bullet, chose "install," which worked fine, and restored files from the backup. James Jones From burn at goldweb.com.au Thu May 6 11:35:28 2004 From: burn at goldweb.com.au (Burn Alting) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 21:35:28 +1000 Subject: FC2 Test 3 Message-ID: <1083843328.4914.130.camel@swtf.comptex.com.au> Hi, I've just installed FC2 Test3 on my Dual Xeon 2.4 Box. I have a LSI Logic Fibre channel controller and attached raid's of various types. I can access the raids hanging of the FC HBA, but when I attempt to access the raid's via the sg device (/dev/sg0 say) I get 'No such device or address'. Should the sg device be accessible? Do I need to do something extra? Thanks Burn -- Burn Alting From gbenson at redhat.com Thu May 6 11:47:38 2004 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:47:38 +0100 Subject: Problems running tomcat 4.1.27-12 In-Reply-To: <1083700912.4097f6b0ec09a@mail.ucla.edu> References: <1083700912.4097f6b0ec09a@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <20040506114736.GA3480@redhat.com> WANG,SHERMAN S wrote: > I recently installed tomcat 4.1.27-12 on two machines with fresh > installs of FC2 Test3 via yum and can't seem to be able to run > anything. On both machines, the service starts without any error > messages, but it doesn't bind to port 8080 so I'm not able to access > localhost:8080. I think there is a bit of version-skew between the tomcat stack and libgcj. I've been rebuilding the stack (tomcat is compiling now) so hopefully that should fix things when 4.1.27-13 appears in rawhide. Gary From jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl Thu May 6 12:03:47 2004 From: jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl (David Jansen) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 14:03:47 +0200 Subject: error for tcsh users in FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <20040506092304.GB24775@psych> References: <20040506092304.GB24775@psych> Message-ID: <20040506120347.GA28253@strw.leidenuniv.nl> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 05:23:04AM -0400, Jonathan Baron wrote: > This was discussed in another message on this list. It is a > reported bug, and it will be fixed in the next version of setup. > Oops, you're right, I'm sorry. Looks like searching the mailinglist on the wevbsite is not working properly, since that didn't show me any matches for things like MAIL, csh.cshrc and the setup rpm David Jansen From chak at cse.unsw.edu.au Thu May 6 12:14:43 2004 From: chak at cse.unsw.edu.au (Manuel M T Chakravarty) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 22:14:43 +1000 Subject: Status of FireWire/IEEE1394/SBP2 in FC2? In-Reply-To: References: <1083589645.4841.44.camel@excession.dzr> <1083684959.14883.118.camel@excession.dzr> <20040504175533.604b77aa.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> <1083686951.14883.130.camel@excession.dzr> <1083687551.2387.0.camel@stage.menzel.com> <1083688373.14883.139.camel@excession.dzr> <4097F97E.5090606@gmx.de> <1083717182.4815.2.camel@excession.dzr> <40990096.6050903@xmission.com> <1083801237.2541.33.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <1083845683.2541.104.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 13:34, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On May 5, 2004, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: > > > Are you going to release extra rpms for a firewire kernel? > > I wasn't quite thinking of rpms, but I guess I could do that as well. > Let's see... Personally, I don't mind compiling my own kernel, but I am not sure whether the average user with a digital video camera that connects via firewire is up to that. An rpm that could be installed along with the standard one, would make it easy for inexperienced users who are interested in firewire to check whether it works ok on their machine. Manuel From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Thu May 6 12:24:48 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 07:24:48 -0500 Subject: HP Scanner Difficulties In-Reply-To: <20040506082642.GB9828@redhat.com> References: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> <40985224.9050502@earthlink.net> <4099981B.2040106@austin.rr.com> <20040506082642.GB9828@redhat.com> Message-ID: <409A2E90.3020203@sbcglobal.net> Tim Waugh wrote: >On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 08:42:51PM -0500, Jason Knight wrote: > > > >>>For PSC devices you should install libsane-hpoj -- my multifunction >>>scanner is working very well here and has been since FC1. >>> >>> >>[root at localhost root]# rpm -q libsane-hpoj >>libsane-hpoj-0.91-6 >> >>Is there some kind of config file I need to run first though? As I am >>not running any hpoj files or binaries, (except the one started by >>Kudzu). The scanner was auto found by kudzu as below snip from >>/etc/sysconfig/hwconf shows: >> >> > >There's no automatic detection for hpoj devices yet I'm afraid. You >need to run 'service hpoj setup' as root first. Access permissions >are handled completely differently to normal USB devices. > >When setting the printer up make sure to use PTAL rather than USB. > >Tim. >*/ > > I have a HP4200C and finally I understand that is supposed to work with new sane-backends. If i run scanimage -L , I get a vendor=0x4b8, product=0x0602, chip-GT-6816?) at libusb:003:004. What do I need to do to get it to install properly? Jim Tate From cra at WPI.EDU Thu May 6 13:31:08 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 09:31:08 -0400 Subject: wireless ethernet problems In-Reply-To: <20040504075957.GC12239@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083640721.2525.58.camel@localhost> <20040504075957.GC12239@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040506133108.GA8107@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 03:59:57AM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 11:18:41PM -0400, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: > > 1) I have a Symbol wireless card, which uses the orinoco_cs driver. But > > under every fedora release (core1, fc2t{1,2,3}), the definition for this > > card is missing in /etc/pcmcia/config. I have to hand-patch this in > > every time, and it looks like this: > > > > card "LA4111 Spectrum24 Wireless LAN PC Card" > > version "Symbol Technologies" > > bind "orinoco_cs" > > Please add this to bugzilla. I don't myself know if our tables are > obsolete or everyone else added it but its clearly a bug somewhere. I tested this on my card, and it works. Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122625 From alan at redhat.com Thu May 6 13:48:03 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 09:48:03 -0400 Subject: Use of labels in grub.conf In-Reply-To: <200405052059.09306.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200405052059.09306.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040506134803.GB8828@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 08:59:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > What is it that allows the default FC2T3 kernel to use labels while > its booting, but when I duplicate the grub entry but with the newer > vmlinuz name, I have to use root=/dev/hda8? Its in the initrd - the boot time root is the init ram disk, that uses user space to find the label, so you need to attach the right ramdisk modules set. From mpleite at ppl-ti.com Thu May 6 13:56:02 2004 From: mpleite at ppl-ti.com (Miguel Pereira Leite) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 14:56:02 +0100 Subject: i810 graphics with X.org on Sony VAIO Laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083851761.31989.9.camel@douro.ppl-ti.com> For me, on my Compaq Presario 721 with S3 KN133, this was the solution. Now i can have 1024*768 Thanks Miguel Pereira Leite Qui, 2004-04-29 ?s 04:56, Efthym escreveu: > chech if vertical and horizontal sync in xorg.conf are commented out and > re-enable them > > On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:15:33 -0400 (EDT), Jerry Dueitt > wrote: > > > I am running a FC2T1 install that I have continuously kept up2date, > > typically via up2date, but sometimes using yum if up2date refused to > > work. > > But anyways, I am now up to Test 3 status. However, after installing the > > updates that brought me to Test 3 an issue came up. Now everytime I boot > > X > > tries to run at 640x480. Consultation of the X.org.log reveals this > > error: > > (II) I810(0): not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > > clock/interlace/double scan) > > (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name) > > (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 640x480 (pitch 1024) > > > > Does anyone know why this occurs and how to fix it. I have the DVD ISO > > downloaded and can burn that if a fresh install is the solution. I mean > > this system has just be updated through the various test versions. I > > haven't seen anaconda in a while so maybe I should... I just don't want > > to > > if I can avoid doing a reinstall before the final. > > > > -Jerry. > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is it worth getting a development snapshot to test the install? -- Gene From alan at redhat.com Thu May 6 14:32:08 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 10:32:08 -0400 Subject: FC2 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <1083843328.4914.130.camel@swtf.comptex.com.au> References: <1083843328.4914.130.camel@swtf.comptex.com.au> Message-ID: <20040506143207.GI8828@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 09:35:28PM +1000, Burn Alting wrote: > can access the raids hanging of the FC HBA, but when I attempt to access > the raid's via the sg device (/dev/sg0 say) I get 'No such device or > address'. > > Should the sg device be accessible? Do I need to do something extra? /dev/sg was off in the FC2t3 kernel. It should be on in the updated one From alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it Thu May 6 14:41:42 2004 From: alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it (Alessandro Torrisi) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 16:41:42 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks (Alessandro Torrisi) In-Reply-To: <20040506113550.43B6D74273@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040506151237.82DE51A03E@mail.euronenet.it> Hi! I've got the same problem with an ATI RADEON 9000 Mobility + MONITOR LCD 1280x800 WideScreen (Packard Bell AMD64 3000Mhz M3) !!! The problem seems to be common, not only with Fedora but with all distributions!!! For example I tried to install Gentoo and also with that there is the same problem... I configured it with VESA DRIVER an I can use X in this way, even if the GUI is very very SLOW. Trying to use ATI DRIVERS (kernel ones) it outputs on the second PORT of the ATI Device and if I send a CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill X a BLANK SCREEN is the only thing I can see and I have to REBOOT the notebook !!! PLEASE HELP US. Alessandro Torrisi. From Fred.New at microlink.ee Thu May 6 15:05:48 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 18:05:48 +0300 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks (Alessandro Torrisi) Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E18@eemail1.microlink.lan> On May 6, 2004, at 17:42, Alessandro Torrisi wrote: > Hi! I've got the same problem with an ATI RADEON 9000 > Mobility + MONITOR LCD > 1280x800 WideScreen (Packard Bell AMD64 3000Mhz M3) !!! > The problem seems to be common, not only with Fedora but with all > distributions!!! For example I tried to install Gentoo and > also with that > there is the same problem... > > I configured it with VESA DRIVER an I can use X in this way, > even if the GUI > is very very SLOW. > > Trying to use ATI DRIVERS (kernel ones) it outputs on the > second PORT of the > ATI Device and if I send a CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill X a > BLANK SCREEN is > the only thing I can see and I have to REBOOT the notebook !!! > > PLEASE HELP US. > Alessandro Torrisi. > Someone was talking about something like this 2 days ago. Is this helpful?: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg00368.html Fred From jcc103 at attglobal.net Thu May 6 15:07:03 2004 From: jcc103 at attglobal.net (John) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 11:07:03 -0400 Subject: Autoload non-kernel drivers Message-ID: <409A5497.9090008@attglobal.net> Hi, I have a wireless integrated device which I found a driver for and have successfully compiled and installed. I can manually modprobe the driver and see that the device is indeed working properly. I am running Fedora Core2 test 3. My question is: Is there a way in Fedora Core to auto load this driver? I know in gen too, for example, there is a file named "kernel.autoload.d". Does a similar file or mechanism exist in Fedora? John From mackay_d at bellsouth.net Thu May 6 15:09:51 2004 From: mackay_d at bellsouth.net (David G. Mackay) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 10:09:51 -0500 Subject: initial installation pcitable? Message-ID: <1083856191.3709.3.camel@vorpal.macdev.com> I'm trying to modify pcitable so that the installation process will correctly identify my radeon IGP 340M chip. Can anyone tell me where the pcitable used by the initial installation is stored? I've already determined that it isn't using the hwdata rpm. Thanks, Dave From NaveR at fidelitytech.com Thu May 6 15:19:34 2004 From: NaveR at fidelitytech.com (Nave, Ronald) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:19:34 -0400 Subject: gnomemeeting with Fedora core 2 test 3 Message-ID: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023881@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> I am testing gnomemeeting 1.0.2 with Fedora core 2 test 3 I have found that the application aborts with an segfault and assertion error if I select ALSA sound. If I select OSS sound , it works , but the microphone input volume is too low even when the microphone volume is to set to maximum ON Fedora Core 1 with alsa installed , gnomemeeting works with alsa and has good mic volume and the application does not crash From twaugh at redhat.com Thu May 6 15:22:48 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 16:22:48 +0100 Subject: gnomemeeting with Fedora core 2 test 3 In-Reply-To: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023881@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> References: <9D8F6FA333FDCF489F65C7DD8B7BC548023881@ftces1.fidelitytech.com> Message-ID: <20040506152248.GF9828@redhat.com> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 11:19:34AM -0400, Nave, Ronald wrote: > I am testing gnomemeeting 1.0.2 with Fedora core 2 test 3 > > I have found that the application aborts with an segfault and assertion > error if I select ALSA sound. Works for me with ALSA (gnomemeeting-1.0.2-2). Perhaps it depends on your sound hardware. > If I select OSS sound , it works , but the microphone input volume is too > low even when the microphone volume is to set to maximum Do you have an 'in-gain' tunable control? Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From shahms at shahms.com Thu May 6 16:16:12 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 09:16:12 -0700 Subject: FC2 blocker bugs In-Reply-To: <20040506161129.5210.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040506161129.5210.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1083860172.3400.240.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 09:11, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > is there a bugzilla bugpage listing all the bugs in FC2 test3? or at least the > bugs that will block FC2 from being released? i've noticed such pages have > existed in the past for the previous test releases... does anyone have this url > readily available? thanks... > > mark. :-) > There are two bugs, currently, one aliased 'FC2Blocker' and one 'FC2Tracker', of course, actually searching for a bug's alias is another matter entirely... I cannot remember the numbers off the top of my head, but if you search for 'FC2 block' or 'FC2 track' in the summary, they should come up. -- Shahms King From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 6 16:17:37 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:17:37 -0400 Subject: FC2 blocker bugs In-Reply-To: <20040506161129.5210.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040506161129.5210.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910405060917707b57d8@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 6 May 2004 09:11:29 -0700 (PDT), Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > Hello- > > is there a bugzilla bugpage listing all the bugs in FC2 test3? or at least the > bugs that will block FC2 from being released? i've noticed such pages have > existed in the past for the previous test releases... does anyone have this url > readily available? thanks... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=114961 Please, Please, if you are a reporter of any bug that is in that list... please review the bugreport and report back if its needed. I've run across a lot of bugs still open in that list where the package maintainer is waiting for more info or confirmation that a bug is indeed fixed in an update. -jef From bikehead at amberpoint.com Thu May 6 16:28:42 2004 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Brian Anderson) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 09:28:42 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 and sun Java Message-ID: <409A67BA.6010204@amberpoint.com> There is a bug on this, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121902, but I was wondering if others have experienced the problems I have with the 1.4 VM on FC2. My machine locks up hard when doing a compile of a large number of jave files. -Brian From bikehead at amberpoint.com Thu May 6 16:32:23 2004 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Brian Anderson) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 09:32:23 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 and sun Java Message-ID: <409A6897.3080009@amberpoint.com> There is a bug on this, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121902, but I was wondering if others have experienced the problems I have with the 1.4 VM on FC2. My machine locks up hard when doing a compile of a large number of jave files. -Brian From kevin at arslinux.com Thu May 6 16:35:07 2004 From: kevin at arslinux.com (Kevin Francis) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 00:35:07 +0800 Subject: Drive errors after upgrade to kernel-2.6.5-1.351 Message-ID: <1083861307.2367.18.camel@aerie> First of all, is this the right ML to report this to? I've been experiencing a rather peculiar error. The error itself appears harmless, but is often a prelude to drive failure. >From my syslog: May 6 23:40:17 aerie kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } That error was received upon reboot with kernel-2.6.5-1.351. Before that, I never received this error. Upon rebooting with the kernel preceding it, the error disappeared. This error is familiar to me, as I had one other machines drive fail, and it started with this particular error. The hardware is unrelated to the current one. My hardware: AMD Athlon XP 2500+ (barton) MSI VIA KT6V motherboard w/ KT600 chipset The hard disk output from smartctl -a /dev/hda: Device Model: Maxtor 6Y080L0 Serial Number: Y2DF4YKE Firmware Version: YAR41BW0 Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 7 ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0 Local Time is: Fri May 7 00:31:51 2004 MYT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled Any other information will be made available if needed. Thanks. -- Kevin Francis From fedora-test-list at keithirwin.com Thu May 6 16:47:14 2004 From: fedora-test-list at keithirwin.com (Keith Irwin) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 09:47:14 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 and sun Java In-Reply-To: <409A67BA.6010204@amberpoint.com> References: <409A67BA.6010204@amberpoint.com> Message-ID: <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 09:28, Brian Anderson wrote: > There is a bug on this, > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121902, but I was > wondering if others have experienced the problems I have with the 1.4 VM > on FC2. My machine locks up hard when doing a compile of a large number > of jave files. Yeah, I'm the one who posted that bug. I installed on a "demo" machine meant to host daily builds of a web application, running both jboss and weblogic. I figured it wouldn't matter if there were some sound card related issues or other "desktop" bugs as long as I could at least use the machine to host some java web apps. No go! Back to FC1 on that box, and nothing else to test FC2 on. Alas, either getting java to work is not a priority for the fedora guys, or its a symptom of some other problem (threading?) they *are* working on, but we can't see. It would be nice to know that they plan progress on this one, but I guess I'll just wait until the next test/beta. BTW, have they updated the kernel since test 3? And if not, have you tried going back to an earlier kernel, as per one of the comments on the issue you quoted? Any success with that? Keith > -Brian > From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Thu May 6 16:54:06 2004 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 09:54:06 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 and sun Java In-Reply-To: <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> References: <409A67BA.6010204@amberpoint.com> <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> Message-ID: <1083862446.25347.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> The last FC2 kernel that I could get my Java tests to run on was B319 After that, it just hnags the process or the entire box. On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 09:47, Keith Irwin wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 09:28, Brian Anderson wrote: > > There is a bug on this, > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121902, but I was > > wondering if others have experienced the problems I have with the 1.4 VM > > on FC2. My machine locks up hard when doing a compile of a large number > > of jave files. > > Yeah, I'm the one who posted that bug. I installed on a "demo" machine > meant to host daily builds of a web application, running both jboss and > weblogic. I figured it wouldn't matter if there were some sound card > related issues or other "desktop" bugs as long as I could at least use > the machine to host some java web apps. > > No go! > > Back to FC1 on that box, and nothing else to test FC2 on. > > Alas, either getting java to work is not a priority for the fedora guys, > or its a symptom of some other problem (threading?) they *are* working > on, but we can't see. > > It would be nice to know that they plan progress on this one, but I > guess I'll just wait until the next test/beta. > > BTW, have they updated the kernel since test 3? And if not, have you > tried going back to an earlier kernel, as per one of the comments on the > issue you quoted? Any success with that? > > Keith > > > -Brian > > -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 From masterra at m-ra.net Thu May 6 16:58:39 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:58:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Back to the NFS problem. Message-ID: Alright, in the archives of this list there are some people mentioning problems getting NFS to work between their FC2Tx box and a Debian box. That is, an NFS server running on the Debian box, and they try to mount the exported share on the FC2 box, but all they ever get is this: [root at klorel mnt]# mount new:/home/ mnt/temp mount to NFS server 'new' failed: server is down. And nothing in their error logs. Someone mentioned trying an Ethereal trace.. and although i don't really know how to decypher it's output, i tried this, and it looks like maybe there's some kind of version problem, where the Debian server can't use "version 2" ? But i don't even know how to tell what version is installed, as there doesn't even seem to be any executables, everything is handled by 'mount'. Those of you who were having the problem before me - Have any of you gotten it to work? I really need this working.. :-/ -Quasar From zac9 at cdc.gov Thu May 6 16:51:27 2004 From: zac9 at cdc.gov (Sessoms, Mack) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 12:51:27 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 and sun Java In-Reply-To: <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> References: <409A67BA.6010204@amberpoint.com> <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> Message-ID: <409A6D0F.3070409@cdc.gov> i've had similar problems with both the sun sdk and ibm's. i had ibm's sdk, the jikes compiler and tomcat 5.x rockin on fc2t2. now i get out of memory errors and lockup. i went to build tomcat from src and noticed broken symlinks in the default ant install. anyone else seeing them in /usr/share/ant? if so, i'll bugzilla it. Keith Irwin wrote: >On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 09:28, Brian Anderson wrote: > > >>There is a bug on this, >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121902, but I was >>wondering if others have experienced the problems I have with the 1.4 VM >>on FC2. My machine locks up hard when doing a compile of a large number >>of jave files. >> >> > >Yeah, I'm the one who posted that bug. I installed on a "demo" machine >meant to host daily builds of a web application, running both jboss and >weblogic. I figured it wouldn't matter if there were some sound card >related issues or other "desktop" bugs as long as I could at least use >the machine to host some java web apps. > >No go! > >Back to FC1 on that box, and nothing else to test FC2 on. > >Alas, either getting java to work is not a priority for the fedora guys, >or its a symptom of some other problem (threading?) they *are* working >on, but we can't see. > >It would be nice to know that they plan progress on this one, but I >guess I'll just wait until the next test/beta. > >BTW, have they updated the kernel since test 3? And if not, have you >tried going back to an earlier kernel, as per one of the comments on the >issue you quoted? Any success with that? > >Keith > > > >>-Brian >> >> >> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From czar at czarc.net Thu May 6 17:02:34 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:02:34 -0400 Subject: Drive errors after upgrade to kernel-2.6.5-1.351 In-Reply-To: <1083861307.2367.18.camel@aerie> References: <1083861307.2367.18.camel@aerie> Message-ID: <200405061302.34951.czar@czarc.net> On Thursday 06 May 2004 12:35, Kevin Francis wrote: > May 6 23:40:17 aerie kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { > DriveReady SeekComplete Error } See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122648 and also check messages on fedora-devel-list. -- Gene From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Thu May 6 17:03:08 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, ForrestX) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 10:03:08 -0700 Subject: Downloading the 4GB DVD iso In-Reply-To: <200405060353.i463r4LM007766@pinon.wv.mentorg.com> References: <200405060353.i463r4LM007766@pinon.wv.mentorg.com> Message-ID: <1083862987.5418.14.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 20:53, steve_dum at mentorg.com wrote: > On this thread a while back there was some discussion about ftp clients > for windows that were able to deal with > 2Gb files --- What about a linux > client? Everything I try gets really freeked out with this large filesize. > > Either they don't work at all, or download the first 2 Gb. I was able to > convince curl to get about 4G -2 bytes of the file, but I couldn't get it > to get the last 80Mb of the file. These programs that store filesize in > a 32 bit long int just don't make it. Are there any linux (redhat 7, 8, 9, or > FC 1) clients that can actually deal with these large filesizes besides > bittorrant. My RHL 7.x machines work just fine (for me). For FC1, I had to update to the latest gftp. Also, use /usr/bin/ftp, not /usr/kerberos/bin/ftp: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120327 Forrest From mfrisch at isurfer.ca Thu May 6 17:06:50 2004 From: mfrisch at isurfer.ca (Mike Frisch) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:06:50 -0400 Subject: Back to the NFS problem. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040506170650.GA11379@isurfer.ca> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 11:58:39AM -0500, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > Someone mentioned trying an Ethereal trace.. and although i don't really > know how to decypher it's output, i tried this, and it looks like maybe > there's some kind of version problem, where the Debian server can't use > "version 2" ? But i don't even know how to tell what version is installed, > as there doesn't even seem to be any executables, everything is handled by > 'mount'. rpcinfo -p will report all of the RPC services running on the specified host. From that, you can see which versions of mountd, lockd, and nfsd are running. You can specify an NFS version at mount using: mount -o nfsvers=[2|3] server:/export /mnt/mountpoint ('man mount' has all of the NFS mount options under the heading "Mount options for nfs") Be sure that both /etc/init.d/nfs and /etc/init.d/nfslock services are running prior to attempting to mount. > Those of you who were having the problem before me - Have any of you > gotten it to work? I really need this working.. :-/ I have no problem using NFS between other Linux boxes, Solaris, etc. From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Thu May 6 17:08:34 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 19:08:34 +0200 Subject: Athlon kernel? Message-ID: <1083863313.4751.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi, What happened to the athlon kernel? Was it dropped intentionally or is this a mistake? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu May 6 17:10:55 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 10:10:55 -0700 Subject: Athlon kernel? In-Reply-To: <1083863313.4751.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1083863313.4751.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405061010.55709.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Thursday 06 May 2004 10:08, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > What happened to the athlon kernel? Was it dropped intentionally or > is this a mistake? Runtime detection in the i686 kernel. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Thu May 6 17:17:56 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 14:17:56 -0300 Subject: Athlon kernel? In-Reply-To: <1083863313.4751.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1083863313.4751.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <409A7344.2080800@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Leonard den Ottolander wrote: >Hi, > >What happened to the athlon kernel? Was it dropped intentionally or is >this a mistake? > >Leonard. > > > Well, according to the readme file in Arjan's 2.6 directory ( http://people.redhat.com/~arjanv/2.6/readme.txt ): "Note: I no longer build athlon kernels because in theory the 2.6 kernel now has a mechanism to automatically runtime patch in these optimisations during boot" -- Pedro Macedo From almacha at altern.org Thu May 6 19:16:01 2004 From: almacha at altern.org (Almacha) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 19:16:01 +0000 Subject: unable to recompile kernel Message-ID: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> -> If somebody already finished a kernel recompilation of linux-2.6.5-1.327 (FC2test3 default kernel) AND UNDER FC2 test 3 tell me "it is possible" and ignore my post. But I wanted to be sure that it is possible. The explaination is above: I tried to recompile the kernel in Fedora core 2 test3 but it didn't work. I also tried the official 2.6.5 kernel from kernel.org but same result. When I had FC2test2 I could compile offical 2.6.5 kernel but now impossible. So it looks as if it was impossible to recompile the linux kernel under FC2test3. At some time during compilation GCC stops (Segmenation Fault) and tells me it certainly comes from a OS or hardware problem. But as my partition table is damaged (by Windows XP) it may not happen at all on an other computers. Notice that if I re-enter make it continues without problem but some minutes later it stops again. If I re-enter make again it stops again but sonner. etc..., sonner and sonner and at the end I have to enter 4 times make to recompile a single file. linux-2.6.5-1.327 -> If somebody already finished a kernel recompilation of linux-2.6.5-1.327 AND UNDER linux-2.6.5-1.327 tell me and ignore my post. But I wanted to be sure that it is possible. From csm at moongroup.com Thu May 6 17:20:45 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (csm at moongroup.com) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 17:20:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: FC2 blocker bugs In-Reply-To: <604aa7910405060917707b57d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040506161129.5210.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> <604aa7910405060917707b57d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 6 May 2004, Jeff Spaleta spewed into the bitstream: JS>On Thu, 6 May 2004 09:11:29 -0700 (PDT), Mark Fonnemann JS> wrote: JS>> JS>> Hello- JS>> JS>> is there a bugzilla bugpage listing all the bugs in FC2 test3? or at least the JS>> bugs that will block FC2 from being released? i've noticed such pages have JS>> existed in the past for the previous test releases... does anyone have this url JS>> readily available? thanks... JS> JS>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=114961 JS> JS>Please, Please, if you are a reporter of any bug that is in that list... please JS>review the bugreport and report back if its needed. I've run across a JS>lot of bugs still open in that list where the package maintainer is JS>waiting for more info or confirmation that a bug is indeed fixed in an JS>update. 122298 should probably be added to this list. Unless we don't care about gnome on x86_64 anymore. - -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAmnPvv6Gjsf2pQ0oRAp/YAJ9AMiW8y8KSa5BzlGeiHWhMBfvlqQCgszLm rlOKTTC+iAHBODnoSLStmTI= =TWal -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Thu May 6 17:45:44 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:45:44 -0400 Subject: Back to the NFS problem. Message-ID: Quasar Jarosz @redhat.com on 05/06/2004 12:58:39 PM wrote: > Alright, in the archives of this list there are some people mentioning > problems getting NFS to work between their FC2Tx box and a Debian box. I have a similar issue when trying to talk to an SCO OpenServer box. > That is, an NFS server running on the Debian box, and they try to mount > the exported share on the FC2 box, but all they ever get is this: > > [root at klorel mnt]# mount new:/home/ mnt/temp > mount to NFS server 'new' failed: server is down. > > And nothing in their error logs. > > Someone mentioned trying an Ethereal trace.. and although i don't really > know how to decypher it's output, i tried this, and it looks like maybe > there's some kind of version problem, where the Debian server can't use > "version 2" ? But i don't even know how to tell what version is installed, > as there doesn't even seem to be any executables, everything is handled by > 'mount'. I have looked at the Ethereal trace, and the magic information (In mu case) is that the remote NFS doesn't support version #2 (of NFS presumably). > Those of you who were having the problem before me - Have any of you > gotten it to work? I really need this working.. :-/ No, not yet. From masterra at m-ra.net Thu May 6 17:32:44 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:32:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Back to the NFS problem. In-Reply-To: <20040506170650.GA11379@isurfer.ca> References: <20040506170650.GA11379@isurfer.ca> Message-ID: WOHOO!! I never saw the version switch in the man pages :( Thanks a ton. This worked, for anyone else with this problem: mount -o nfsvers=2 new:/home/ /mnt/temp -Quasar On Thu, 6 May 2004, Mike Frisch wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 11:58:39AM -0500, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > Someone mentioned trying an Ethereal trace.. and although i don't really > > know how to decypher it's output, i tried this, and it looks like maybe > > there's some kind of version problem, where the Debian server can't use > > "version 2" ? But i don't even know how to tell what version is installed, > > as there doesn't even seem to be any executables, everything is handled by > > 'mount'. > > rpcinfo -p > > will report all of the RPC services running on the specified host. From > that, you can see which versions of mountd, lockd, and nfsd are running. > > You can specify an NFS version at mount using: > > mount -o nfsvers=[2|3] server:/export /mnt/mountpoint > > ('man mount' has all of the NFS mount options under the heading "Mount > options for nfs") > > Be sure that both /etc/init.d/nfs and /etc/init.d/nfslock services are > running prior to attempting to mount. > > > Those of you who were having the problem before me - Have any of you > > gotten it to work? I really need this working.. :-/ > > I have no problem using NFS between other Linux boxes, Solaris, etc. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Thu May 6 17:50:25 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:50:25 -0400 Subject: Back to the NFS problem. Message-ID: Mike Frisch @redhat.com on 05/06/2004 01:06:50 PM wrote: > You can specify an NFS version at mount using: > > mount -o nfsvers=[2|3] server:/export /mnt/mountpoint Ahh, the man with the magic, thanks. :-) Using nfsvers=2 solved it for me. I guess the default is now up a version, and it doesn't/can't auto-negotiate. From mfrisch at isurfer.ca Thu May 6 17:34:13 2004 From: mfrisch at isurfer.ca (Mike Frisch) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:34:13 -0400 Subject: Back to the NFS problem. In-Reply-To: References: <20040506170650.GA11379@isurfer.ca> Message-ID: <20040506173413.GA11800@isurfer.ca> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 12:32:44PM -0500, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > WOHOO!! > I never saw the version switch in the man pages :( > Thanks a ton. > This worked, for anyone else with this problem: > > mount -o nfsvers=2 new:/home/ /mnt/temp If filesystem performance is an issue for you (and when shouldn't it be? :), you should probably look and see why Debian doesn't have NFSv3 enabled. From hughesac at clarkson.edu Thu May 6 15:26:03 2004 From: hughesac at clarkson.edu (Aaron Hughes) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:26:03 -0400 Subject: Wine References: <1083827114.16298.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <001101c4337e$72687240$465a9bac@fuckkvslihxl88> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Johnson" To: Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 3:05 AM Subject: Wine > Hi, > > Has the problem with prelinking and Wine been fixed from either side > yet? I'm using version 20040804 (as shipped with the newest version on > mono) and still get than annoying heap error. > > TTFN > > Paul > -- > "There are four stages to any war > First they ignore you, then they laugh at you > Then they fight you, then YOU win" > Ghandi > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Try this: setarch i686 wine notepad you may need to install setarch From kevin at arslinux.com Thu May 6 17:53:13 2004 From: kevin at arslinux.com (Kevin Francis) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 01:53:13 +0800 Subject: Drive errors after upgrade to kernel-2.6.5-1.351 In-Reply-To: <200405061302.34951.czar@czarc.net> References: <1083861307.2367.18.camel@aerie> <200405061302.34951.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1083865993.2367.20.camel@aerie> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 01:02, Gene C. wrote: > On Thursday 06 May 2004 12:35, Kevin Francis wrote: > > May 6 23:40:17 aerie kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { > > DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122648 and also check > messages on fedora-devel-list. > -- > Gene Done. -- Kevin Francis From bikehead at amberpoint.com Thu May 6 19:04:05 2004 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Brian Anderson) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 12:04:05 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 and sun Java In-Reply-To: <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> References: <409A67BA.6010204@amberpoint.com> <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> Message-ID: <409A8C25.6090904@amberpoint.com> I update frequently and I check it. The latest kernel, 351, exhibits the same behavior. Keith Irwin wrote: >On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 09:28, Brian Anderson wrote: > > >>There is a bug on this, >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121902, but I was >>wondering if others have experienced the problems I have with the 1.4 VM >>on FC2. My machine locks up hard when doing a compile of a large number >>of jave files. >> >> > >Yeah, I'm the one who posted that bug. I installed on a "demo" machine >meant to host daily builds of a web application, running both jboss and >weblogic. I figured it wouldn't matter if there were some sound card >related issues or other "desktop" bugs as long as I could at least use >the machine to host some java web apps. > >No go! > >Back to FC1 on that box, and nothing else to test FC2 on. > >Alas, either getting java to work is not a priority for the fedora guys, >or its a symptom of some other problem (threading?) they *are* working >on, but we can't see. > >It would be nice to know that they plan progress on this one, but I >guess I'll just wait until the next test/beta. > >BTW, have they updated the kernel since test 3? And if not, have you >tried going back to an earlier kernel, as per one of the comments on the >issue you quoted? Any success with that? > >Keith > > > >>-Brian >> >> >> > > > > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 6 19:05:56 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:05:56 +0100 Subject: Wine In-Reply-To: <001101c4337e$72687240$465a9bac@fuckkvslihxl88> References: <1083827114.16298.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <001101c4337e$72687240$465a9bac@fuckkvslihxl88> Message-ID: <1083870355.9365.1.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > setarch i686 wine notepad That's what I'm currently doing. One thing which is annoying me is that I installed beta 1 of mono yesterday and recompiled some winforms code. Compiled fine, but when I came to execute the file, all I got out was the /usr/lib/winelib.exe.so couldn't be found - despite it being there! Is this a mono problem or selinux problem? I've run /sbin/ldconfig to ensure it's been picked up. TTFN Paul -- "There are four stages to any war First they ignore you, then they laugh at you Then they fight you, then YOU win." Ghandi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From list at inksystems.net Thu May 6 19:25:58 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor N. Kolomiyets) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:25:58 +0100 Subject: FC2T3 and sun Java In-Reply-To: <409A8C25.6090904@amberpoint.com> References: <409A67BA.6010204@amberpoint.com> <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> <409A8C25.6090904@amberpoint.com> Message-ID: <409A9146.80702@inksystems.net> I am using both 1.4.2 and 1.5 Beta 1 on FC2T1-T3 and have no problem. It is running eclipse + JBoss and in eclipse i'm constantly making changes to few dependent projects (few EJB modules and Web module) in average about 50 sources. Also recently made few changes with recompilation of the full project containing about 100 source files. The described behavior was not ever observed. Best regards, Igor. Brian Anderson wrote: > I update frequently and I check it. The latest kernel, 351, exhibits > the same behavior. > Keith Irwin wrote: > >> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 09:28, Brian Anderson wrote: >> >> >>> There is a bug on this, >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121902, but I >>> was wondering if others have experienced the problems I have with the >>> 1.4 VM on FC2. My machine locks up hard when doing a compile of a >>> large number of jave files. >>> >> >> >> Yeah, I'm the one who posted that bug. I installed on a "demo" machine >> meant to host daily builds of a web application, running both jboss and >> weblogic. I figured it wouldn't matter if there were some sound card >> related issues or other "desktop" bugs as long as I could at least use >> the machine to host some java web apps. >> >> No go! >> >> Back to FC1 on that box, and nothing else to test FC2 on. >> >> Alas, either getting java to work is not a priority for the fedora guys, >> or its a symptom of some other problem (threading?) they *are* working >> on, but we can't see. >> >> It would be nice to know that they plan progress on this one, but I >> guess I'll just wait until the next test/beta. >> >> BTW, have they updated the kernel since test 3? And if not, have you >> tried going back to an earlier kernel, as per one of the comments on the >> issue you quoted? Any success with that? >> >> Keith >> >> >> >>> -Brian >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > From bikehead at amberpoint.com Thu May 6 19:42:30 2004 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Brian Anderson) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 12:42:30 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 and sun Java In-Reply-To: <409A9146.80702@inksystems.net> References: <409A67BA.6010204@amberpoint.com> <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> <409A8C25.6090904@amberpoint.com> <409A9146.80702@inksystems.net> Message-ID: <409A9526.4070103@amberpoint.com> We may be talking an issue of scale here. I'm talking about a full project recompile using ant over 7500 source files some, quite large. I actually have observed failure many times when using antlr to make parsers, but I have no hard evidence for that. What is consistent is that I can get the kernel to lock up for sure by doing two of these large compiles (over different source versions) simultaneously. Igor N. Kolomiyets wrote: > I am using both 1.4.2 and 1.5 Beta 1 on FC2T1-T3 and have no problem. > It is running eclipse + JBoss and in eclipse i'm constantly making > changes to few dependent projects (few EJB modules and Web module) in > average about 50 sources. Also recently made few changes with > recompilation of the full project containing about 100 source files. > The described behavior was not ever observed. > > Best regards, > Igor. > > Brian Anderson wrote: > >> I update frequently and I check it. The latest kernel, 351, exhibits >> the same behavior. >> Keith Irwin wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 09:28, Brian Anderson wrote: >>> >>> >>>> There is a bug on this, >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121902, but I >>>> was wondering if others have experienced the problems I have with >>>> the 1.4 VM on FC2. My machine locks up hard when doing a compile >>>> of a large number of jave files. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yeah, I'm the one who posted that bug. I installed on a "demo" machine >>> meant to host daily builds of a web application, running both jboss and >>> weblogic. I figured it wouldn't matter if there were some sound card >>> related issues or other "desktop" bugs as long as I could at least use >>> the machine to host some java web apps. >>> >>> No go! >>> >>> Back to FC1 on that box, and nothing else to test FC2 on. >>> >>> Alas, either getting java to work is not a priority for the fedora >>> guys, >>> or its a symptom of some other problem (threading?) they *are* working >>> on, but we can't see. >>> >>> It would be nice to know that they plan progress on this one, but I >>> guess I'll just wait until the next test/beta. >>> >>> BTW, have they updated the kernel since test 3? And if not, have you >>> tried going back to an earlier kernel, as per one of the comments on >>> the >>> issue you quoted? Any success with that? >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> >>> >>>> -Brian >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > From alan at redhat.com Thu May 6 19:53:28 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 15:53:28 -0400 Subject: unable to recompile kernel In-Reply-To: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> References: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> Message-ID: <20040506195328.GE25558@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 07:16:01PM +0000, Almacha wrote: > At some time during compilation GCC stops (Segmenation Fault) and tells > me it certainly comes from a OS or hardware problem. But as my partition > table is damaged (by Windows XP) it may not happen at all on an other Odds on its hardware. Its harder to be sure with a test kernel obviously but the biggest clue is that make crashes in different places each time > but some minutes later it stops again. If I re-enter make again it stops > again but sonner. etc..., sonner and sonner and at the end I have to > enter 4 times make to recompile a single file. and this smells of cooling issues From xthor at xthorsworld.com Thu May 6 20:12:57 2004 From: xthor at xthorsworld.com (Ben Brown) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 14:12:57 -0600 Subject: FC2T3 questions Message-ID: <1083874377.12246.3.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> Just installed FC2test3 on my desktop... and I'm having a couple of issues. First off, when I install RPMs (via the terminal), I get a ton of errors, such as: /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:default_context_t on line number 1854 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:amanda_recover_dir_t on line number 1855 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:staff_home_spamassassin_t on line number 1856 I didn't enable SELinux, so I'm confused as to why I'm getting these errors. Is there something else I have to disable? The second question isn't an issue so much as a "general practices" question. Running 'yum check-update' shows quite a few updates available for download. I tested FC2test2 briefly, until running 'yum update' screwed up the whole system. After installing a test release, is updating all the packages recommended? Thanks! From fedora at andrewfarris.com Thu May 6 20:21:42 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 13:21:42 -0700 Subject: unable to recompile kernel In-Reply-To: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> References: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> Message-ID: <1083874901.11554.1.camel@CirithUngol> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 19:16 +0000, Almacha wrote: > -> If somebody already finished a kernel recompilation of > linux-2.6.5-1.327 AND UNDER linux-2.6.5-1.327 tell me and ignore my > post. But I wanted to be sure that it is possible. Have done both, several times now attempting to get bootsplash.org code working correctly (which it now does) :) The kernel does compile, so I suspect other problems with the hardware.. load of compilation? -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From mpeters at mac.com Thu May 6 21:03:06 2004 From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 14:03:06 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 questions In-Reply-To: <1083874377.12246.3.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> References: <1083874377.12246.3.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> Message-ID: <1083877386.4463.17.camel@devel.mpeters.us> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 13:12, Ben Brown wrote: > Just installed FC2test3 on my desktop... and I'm having a couple of > issues. > > First off, when I install RPMs (via the terminal), I get a ton of > errors, such as: > *snip* > > I didn't enable SELinux, so I'm confused as to why I'm getting these > errors. Is there something else I have to disable? Don't worry about them. They are harmless. > > The second question isn't an issue so much as a "general practices" > question. Running 'yum check-update' shows quite a few updates available > for download. I tested FC2test2 briefly, until running 'yum update' > screwed up the whole system. After installing a test release, is > updating all the packages recommended? I've never had yum update screw up any distribution. Even test2. It is safe and recommended to run yum update - however, this is a test release - if you want to use a stable release where you will be less likely to encounter problems, install Fedora Core 1 or wait for Core 2 final. It is possible that you will have some issues after updating, it is also possible that many issues (even ones you don't know about) will go away. It is a test release - don't use it if testing isn't your cup of jawa juice. -- Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/ From arjanv at redhat.com Tue May 4 15:14:06 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:14:06 +0200 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: References: <1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: <20040504151405.GA4009@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 11:11:26AM -0400, James Morris wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Stephen Smalley wrote: > > > Interesting - the CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM option is not set in > > the kernel configuration in the corresponding kernel SRPM, so the > > selinux=0 support is disabled. > > I don't know why this is disabled now. Arjan? isn't this obsoleted by the /etc/sysconfig/selinux thing in SysVinit ? I'm open to turning it back on if there's a good reason, I for sure don't have all the visibility into the issues to make that call. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From arjanv at redhat.com Thu May 6 21:21:56 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 23:21:56 +0200 Subject: kernel testing request Message-ID: <20040506212156.GB10775@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Hi, We're chasing that IDE dmesg spew bug hard and we have a test kernel with what we think will fix it. I would like to ask the people who got the IDE errors in kernel 351/352 to please test kernel 353 from http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6 and report to me or in bug 122648 if the errors have gone away. If they haven't I'd like to get the output of cat /proc/ide/hda/identify (assuming hda is the disk in question) for futher investigation. Thanks, Arjan van de Ven -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fedora at andrewfarris.com Thu May 6 21:45:06 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 14:45:06 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 questions In-Reply-To: <1083874377.12246.3.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> References: <1083874377.12246.3.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> Message-ID: <1083879906.11554.22.camel@CirithUngol> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 14:12 -0600, Ben Brown wrote: > First off, when I install RPMs (via the terminal), I get a ton of > errors, such as: > > /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context > system_u:object_r:default_context_t on line number 1854 > I didn't enable SELinux, so I'm confused as to why I'm getting these > errors. Is there something else I have to disable? I think anaconda only sets the variable SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux -- however if you're using a kernel older than 2.6.5-1.349 that does not fully disable selinux, it only does not load a policy. No policy loaded leads to these errors about having no valid context. To have the kernel not load the selinux security module at all, you need to boot with 'selinux=0' as a kernel parameter. Kernel -1.349 should not need the kernel parameter (and in fact that one ignores it). > The second question isn't an issue so much as a "general practices" > question. Running 'yum check-update' shows quite a few updates available > for download. I tested FC2test2 briefly, until running 'yum update' > screwed up the whole system. After installing a test release, is > updating all the packages recommended? Yes, but that depends.. if you intend to test for general use then you should be using the latest packages. You can then identify quickly when something changes from package to package, when new gui or setup bugs start to cause you problems, you won't be reporting problems that are already fixed... etc. However, spending time and effort to update many packages that you did not get a chance to exercise at all can get out of hand and wasteful. If you want to test certain programs in a more thorough fashion, then updating key packages that are related is the way you should go instead. Then update only what causes problems or might cause problems for those programs (the idea is just to keep the system fairly stable while testing that version, then update to the next package and repeat). -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From xthor at xthorsworld.com Thu May 6 22:26:09 2004 From: xthor at xthorsworld.com (Ben Brown) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 16:26:09 -0600 Subject: FC2T3 questions In-Reply-To: <1083879906.11554.22.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1083874377.12246.3.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> <1083879906.11554.22.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1083882369.2534.2.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 15:45, Andrew Farris wrote: > I think anaconda only sets the variable SELINUX=disabled > in /etc/sysconfig/selinux -- however if you're using a kernel older than > 2.6.5-1.349 that does not fully disable selinux, it only does not load a > policy. No policy loaded leads to these errors about having no valid > context. To have the kernel not load the selinux security module at > all, you need to boot with 'selinux=0' as a kernel parameter. Kernel > -1.349 should not need the kernel parameter (and in fact that one > ignores it). I was running 2.6.5-1.327, but as soon as I updated to 2.6.5-1.351, those errors disappeared. Thanks! > If you want to test certain programs in a more thorough fashion, then > updating key packages that are related is the way you should go instead. > Then update only what causes problems or might cause problems for those > programs (the idea is just to keep the system fairly stable while > testing that version, then update to the next package and repeat). Great. Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. From arnling at kth.se Thu May 6 23:08:19 2004 From: arnling at kth.se (Joakim Arnling) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 01:08:19 +0200 Subject: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 Message-ID: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> When i include the line: Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl cheers //Joakim From arnling at kth.se Thu May 6 23:16:29 2004 From: arnling at kth.se (Joakim Arnling) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 01:16:29 +0200 Subject: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083885388.3176.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Isn't it funny, just when you posted the question, you find the answer. The option is to find under the keyboard-options in gnome! fre 2004-05-07 klockan 01.08 skrev Joakim Arnling: > When i include the line: > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. > > This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl > > cheers > > //Joakim > From vibol at khmer.cc Thu May 6 23:48:37 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 16:48:37 -0700 Subject: named + chroot Message-ID: <409ACED5.3060201@khmer.cc> I initially installed the bind package alone and then I installed bind-chroot and caching-nameserver. This caused rndc to start giving errors which I traced back to bind-chroot not containing the appropriate named.conf and rndc.key files; to resolve this, I hardlinked the /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf file to /etc/named.conf and /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key to /etc/rndc.key. Has anyone else experienced this problem? -Vibol From vibol at khmer.cc Thu May 6 23:56:50 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 16:56:50 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on Dell Latitude C400 Laptop Message-ID: <409AD0C2.50208@khmer.cc> This e-mail was written by me last week and it summarizes a number of things that I experienced while installing and using FC2T3 for the first time. I'm sure some things have been mentioned by others so ignore those. The system I have is a Dell Latitude C400 1.2GHz laptop. Installation was fairly straightforward. Click, click, click and all went well. However, I did encounter a few problems when I started using the system (Workstation installation, no custom packages). 1. I selected a generic 1024x768 LCD panel during installation. When X first started, it asked for resolution and color depth settings. X only showed two options for resolution: 640x480 and 800x600. It appeared that X was in 1024x768 resolution at the time it asked for these settings. Even now, it's in the correct resolution. However, Display settings still only shows those two available options. 2. I had some tribulation with the initial networking configuration. I didn't know (until I researched it) that 'Mode' can't be set to 'Auto' for this wireless card (Dell Truemobile 1150 MiniPCI / orinoco) so I spent a good ten minutes trying to figure out why wireless wasn't working. 3. If an interface is wireless (or pcmcia), checking the 'Activate device when computer starts' will fail since pcmcia hasn't been activated yet. 4. When adding a new Ethernet device in Network Configuration, it detects my built in ethernet device as a 3c905C-tx/TX-M tornado card and also as an Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps card (both on eth1). 5. When deleting the Intersil PRISM2 card reference, my device at eth1 was also deleted although the device was configured to use the 3c905 hardware entry. 6. I had the hardest time figuring out where the gnome panel applets were (rtfm?) Which leads me to ... why doesn't "Start Here" have a reference to "Help"? 7. Much tribulation using up2date. Mirrors were too congested, up2date kept failing so I mirrored one of the repositories to one of my servers and all was well. The graphical version of up2date is much worst than the --nox version when it comes to reporting errors (i.e. "Connection timed out", etc.) since it just hangs there when up2date errors out quickly. 8. Why doesn't the Add/Remove Packages applet not allow installation of packages via network? It only takes CDs ... maybe I'm not rtfm? 9. I installed mozilla-mail because it wasn't installed by default but it didn't show up in Mozilla's little shortcut bar... till after I logged off and logged back in. Maybe there should be some kind of note that mentions this after the install? 10. What's with the inconsistency in Copy/Paste shortcuts between certain applications? Mozilla does CTRL-C/X/V while Gnome does CTRL-SHIFT-C/X/V for the same things. It took a few seconds to get used to, but shouldn't there be some sort of standard? Just curious :) That's it so far; I'll continue to report things I experience and I'll file bug reports if others experience the same issues. -Vibol From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Fri May 7 00:36:49 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:36:49 -0400 Subject: HP Scanner Difficulties In-Reply-To: <409A2E90.3020203@sbcglobal.net> References: <40984830.3010605@austin.rr.com> <40985224.9050502@earthlink.net> <4099981B.2040106@austin.rr.com> <20040506082642.GB9828@redhat.com> <409A2E90.3020203@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <409ADA21.5090006@insight.rr.com> jim tate wrote: > Tim Waugh wrote: > >> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 08:42:51PM -0500, Jason Knight wrote: >> >> >> >>>> For PSC devices you should install libsane-hpoj -- my multifunction >>>> scanner is working very well here and has been since FC1. >>>> >>> >>> [root at localhost root]# rpm -q libsane-hpoj >>> libsane-hpoj-0.91-6 >>> >>> Is there some kind of config file I need to run first though? As I am >>> not running any hpoj files or binaries, (except the one started by >>> Kudzu). The scanner was auto found by kudzu as below snip from >>> /etc/sysconfig/hwconf shows: >>> >> >> >> There's no automatic detection for hpoj devices yet I'm afraid. You >> need to run 'service hpoj setup' as root first. Access permissions >> are handled completely differently to normal USB devices. >> >> When setting the printer up make sure to use PTAL rather than USB. >> >> Tim. >> */ >> >> > I have a HP4200C and finally I understand that is supposed to work with new > sane-backends. > If i run scanimage -L , I get a vendor=0x4b8, product=0x0602, > chip-GT-6816?) at libusb:003:004. > What do I need to do to get it to install properly? > > Jim Tate > > > Have you tried to run the below command in a root terminal? chmod 006 /proc/bus/usb/003/004 This should set the permission of the scanner to world readable and writable. The scanner should then be recognized when xsane is launched from the launcher. I have an HP scanner also and do not have to edit any config file. As an alternative to the changing the permissions of the file as root, you could install the test sane-backend package that was discussed earlier on the list. You have to unplug the scanner from the USB port to get it to hotplug and change the file permissions to the permissions needed for xsane and friends to be able to recognize and access the scanner. Hopefully this helps explain how to change the permission for the scanner and get it to work. As a note, the file permissions change each time that you reboot you computer, if the scanner is plugged in. The file (scanner access point) is set to read-write for root (owner) and read for group and for others. Only having read permission on the file is not good enough to get the scanner working. Jim -- Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Fri May 7 00:16:18 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 17:16:18 -0700 Subject: fixfiles logfile -- silly looking sequence... Message-ID: <20040507001617.GA12539@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> I just noticed something harmless but silly with fixfiles. # fixfiles relabel logging to /tmp/fixfiles.KVDZyC3888 Cleaning out /tmp So what about /tmp/fixfiles.KVDZyC3888? Was it really removed and does it matter? ... So control Z.... [1]+ Stopped fixfiles relabel [root at xtl2 root]# ls -l /tmp/fixfiles.KVDZyC3888 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 6 16:33 /tmp/fixfiles.KVDZyC3888 It is there but now I wonder if I lost any bits of /tmp/fixfiles.KVDZyC3888 or perhaps I am not cleaning out /tmp. I did do an strace and the tmp file seems to be opened twice. I clearly see one unlink() system call of it followed by a second open so it is removed so I could have lost bits. First... open("/tmp/fixfiles.XXX", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0600) = 3 Second... open("/tmp/fixfiles.XXX", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0666 < Note the difference 0600, 0666. Should the script be setting umask? Possible solutions. Move mktemp /tmp/fixfiles.XXXXXXXXXX echo "logging to $LOGFILE" down in the script to follow the rm -rf /tmp/.??* /tmp/* It turns out that mktemp /tmp/fixfiles.XXXXXXXXXX does create the file but the first output is sent to the file after the rm -rf /tmp/.??* /tmp/ line which causes it to be recreated. Summary harmless I think. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From feliciano.matias at free.fr Thu May 6 19:40:07 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 21:40:07 +0200 Subject: unable to recompile kernel In-Reply-To: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> References: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> Message-ID: <1083872401.882.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le jeu 06/05/2004 ? 21:16, Almacha a ?crit : > -> If somebody already finished a kernel recompilation of > linux-2.6.5-1.327 AND UNDER linux-2.6.5-1.327 tell me and ignore my > post. But I wanted to be sure that it is possible. > It's possible :-) Hardware problems ? Use memtest86+ : rpm -q -i memtest86+ [...] Description : Memtest86+ is a thorough stand-alone memory test for x86 and x86-64 architecture computers. BIOS based memory tests are only a quick check and often miss many of the failures that are detected by Memtest86+. Run 'memtest-setup' to add to your GRUB or lilo boot menu. From masterra at m-ra.net Thu May 6 23:45:07 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 18:45:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <1083885388.3176.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083885388.3176.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Where did you find this in the keyboard-options in gnome? I only see options to effect the behavior of the caps-lock key, however there are only 4 options, and all of them are just different ways to capitlize. -Quasar On Fri, 7 May 2004, Joakim Arnling wrote: > Isn't it funny, just when you posted the question, you find the answer. > The option is to find under the keyboard-options in gnome! > > fre 2004-05-07 klockan 01.08 skrev Joakim Arnling: > > When i include the line: > > > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > > > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the > > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. > > > > This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl > > > > cheers > > > > //Joakim > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From katzj at redhat.com Fri May 7 00:52:26 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:52:26 -0400 Subject: Installer shell prompt too late In-Reply-To: <1083600152.4750.26.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1083600152.4750.26.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083891146.1970.18.camel@bree.local.net> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 18:02 +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Problem is there is no shell prompt in tty2 yet, so I can't bring up the > devices by hand. Maybe it is a good idea to make a shell prompt > available earlier in the installation? Doing it earlier requires including the shell (and all dependent libs) on the initrd. Which when floppies were a concern, was bad. Even so, I want to keep that small just due to the memory footprint implications. Jeremy From markf78 at yahoo.com Thu May 6 20:55:28 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: volume-control applet bug Message-ID: <20040506205528.10865.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- is anyone else having trouble with the volume control applet? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119501 mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From diablo93 at americanwicca.com Thu May 6 20:01:17 2004 From: diablo93 at americanwicca.com (seth doty) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: cyrus-imap Message-ID: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From vibol at khmer.cc Fri May 7 01:09:19 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 18:09:19 -0700 Subject: volume-control applet bug In-Reply-To: <20040506205528.10865.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040506205528.10865.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <409AE1BF.1040508@khmer.cc> i had the same issue. try removing the applet and adding it again. worked for me. -Vibol Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > is anyone else having trouble with the volume control applet? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119501 > > mark. :-) > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover > > From mattdm at mattdm.org Thu May 6 21:39:33 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 17:39:33 -0400 Subject: Wine In-Reply-To: <001101c4337e$72687240$465a9bac@fuckkvslihxl88> References: <1083827114.16298.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <001101c4337e$72687240$465a9bac@fuckkvslihxl88> Message-ID: <20040506213932.GA30920@jadzia.bu.edu> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 11:26:03AM -0400, Aaron Hughes wrote: > Try this: > setarch i686 wine notepad > you may need to install setarch Is there an explanation somewhere of why this works? -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From czar at czarc.net Thu May 6 23:10:21 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 19:10:21 -0400 Subject: SATA performance on FC2 Message-ID: <200405061910.21723.czar@czarc.net> I am seeing extremely poor performance for a SATA drive on an x86_64 system ... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122687 I have two Maxtor 120GB drives on a ASUS SK8V mobo with an Opteron 140. Under FC1 the SATA drive performance matches that of the PATA drive. However, under FC2 performance is terrible (more than order of magnitude difference). OK, anyone else see this? On FC2, how do I get the "old" SATA support (like on FC1) specified? -- Gene From mfrisch at isurfer.ca Thu May 6 19:23:40 2004 From: mfrisch at isurfer.ca (Mike Frisch) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 15:23:40 -0400 Subject: Back to the NFS problem. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040506192340.GA12743@isurfer.ca> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 01:45:44PM -0400, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > I have a similar issue when trying to talk to an SCO OpenServer box. Run 'rpcinfo -p ' to determine the version(s) of NFS running on the SCO (puke) box. Go from there... From dkramer at reflect.com Thu May 6 23:53:30 2004 From: dkramer at reflect.com (David Kramer) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 16:53:30 -0700 Subject: named + chroot In-Reply-To: <409ACED5.3060201@khmer.cc> Message-ID: I guess Im confused as to why you would hardlink those files versus dropping them directly into your chroot environment. I was always told for a pure chroot environment that you MUST place all dependent files within the chroot. I've been running a public DNS for quite some time like that without issues(KNOCK ON WOOD...) At one point I think I was missing my rndc.key reference within my named.conf file, once I corrected the path and had that file within my chroot/etc/dir I was good to go. Let me know if you need more help with this. DK > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Vibol Hou > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:49 PM > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: named + chroot > > > I initially installed the bind package alone and then I installed > bind-chroot and caching-nameserver. This caused rndc to start giving > errors which I traced back to bind-chroot not containing the appropriate > named.conf and rndc.key files; to resolve this, I hardlinked the > /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf file to /etc/named.conf and > /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key to /etc/rndc.key. > > Has anyone else experienced this problem? > > -Vibol > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From marshall at novafoundry.com Fri May 7 01:46:08 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 21:46:08 -0400 Subject: SATA performance on FC2 In-Reply-To: <200405061910.21723.czar@czarc.net> References: <200405061910.21723.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1083894368.4933.8.camel@grendel> The drive letters changed when moving from the 2.4 kernel to the 2.6 kernel.. it wasn't directly related to FC1 & FC2. I have an opteron 248 at home (and a 246 at work) both running segate 120 gig sata drives on a msi k8t master2-far motherboard (via chipset..using the sata_via module). I'm not seeing the same problem you are on either machine.. I do notice (after looking at your bug report) that dma is enabled, but that I don't have a "current active mode" set... [root at grendel root]# hdparm /dev/hde /dev/hde: multcount = 16 (on) IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq = 0 (off) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 256 (on) geometry = 16383/255/63, sectors = 234441648, start = 0 [root at grendel root]# hdparm -i /dev/hde /dev/hde: Model=ST3120026AS, FwRev=3.05, SerialNo=3JT2DTXX Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs RotSpdTol>.5% } RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4 BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=8192kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16 CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=234441648 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2: * signifies the current active mode [root at grendel root]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hde /dev/hde: Timing buffer-cache reads: 4168 MB in 2.00 seconds = 2084.32 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 168 MB in 3.03 seconds = 55.51 MB/sec I'm also having to boot with acpi=off in order for my sata controller to work.. when I try to boot without that set, I get lots of errors about interrupts going away and such... and the system will run, but I'll get crappy performance (and lots of error messages). I kind of doubt that it's related to the problem you're having, but you might try adding that option next time you reboot. And I have no idea if the fact that I don't have a "current active mode" is significant or not. -- Marshall On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 19:10, Gene C. wrote: > I am seeing extremely poor performance for a SATA drive on an x86_64 system > ... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122687 > > I have two Maxtor 120GB drives on a ASUS SK8V mobo with an Opteron 140. Under > FC1 the SATA drive performance matches that of the PATA drive. However, > under FC2 performance is terrible (more than order of magnitude difference). > > OK, anyone else see this? > > On FC2, how do I get the "old" SATA support (like on FC1) specified? > -- > Gene > From david at bus.ucf.edu Fri May 7 02:08:53 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 22:08:53 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/6/2004 4:01 PM, seth doty wrote: > After upgrading from FC1 to FC2 test 3 i realized that FC2 uses cyrus-imap > and not the standard IMAP package that FC1 used and that it doesn't use PAM > by default because I can no longer login through IMAP. The server is > running fine because I can telnet to it but when atempting to login I get a > authentication error. I have looked around at cyrus documentation of the > cyrus site and redhat's site but the admin tools (mkimap, cm.user, etc) do > not work. I even tried changing the .conf file to pam authentication by > changing the method to sasl_passwd_check: pam and I tried shadow. any help > getting users back in any way would be appreciated, thanks Yes, documentation is scarce. The admin user on Fedora Cyrus is cyrus. Set a password for it (passwd cyrus) and use cyradm (man cyradm) to add users. Cyrus on FC2 is compiled to use shadow passwords for authentication, so users must exist on the system before a mailbox is created with cyradm. Cheers, -- David From jkeating at j2solutions.net Thu May 6 22:12:59 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 15:12:59 -0700 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: <20040504151405.GA4009@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <20040504151405.GA4009@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405061513.02445.jkeating@j2solutions.net> On Tuesday 04 May 2004 08:14, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > isn't this obsoleted by the /etc/sysconfig/selinux thing in SysVinit > ? > > I'm open to turning it back on if there's a good reason, I for sure > don't have all the visibility into the issues to make that call. Good reasons posted: Emergency setting to fix fubar'd (or non existant) /etc/sysconfig/selinux Compatibility with current setups (not sure if this is actually "good" as existing setups (test installs) should go away and not be upgraded) -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: signature URL: From tjaszkin at orange.net Fri May 7 02:39:32 2004 From: tjaszkin at orange.net (Tomasz Jaszkin) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 03:39:32 +0100 Subject: Mouse not working from installer onwards In-Reply-To: <1083774316.19098.3.camel@lafbek> References: <4097DC4B.7070809@orange.net> <1083774316.19098.3.camel@lafbek> Message-ID: <409AF6E4.2030601@orange.net> Eelco Hoekema wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 20:09, Tomasz Jaszkin wrote: > > >>I followed the tips concerning the changes to X configuration using >>/dev/psaux, /dev/mouse, /dev/input/mice, etc. > > > What tips? I've installed fc2t2 and fc2t3, and with the latter i found > the mouse not working. It did during the install though. > From previous emails to this list related to mouse problems I saw various tips in the form of stuff like this: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-February/msg01084.html but they did not solve the problem. From philip at balister.org Fri May 7 02:42:23 2004 From: philip at balister.org (Philip Balister) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 22:42:23 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 on Dell Latitude C400 Laptop In-Reply-To: <409AD0C2.50208@khmer.cc> References: <409AD0C2.50208@khmer.cc> Message-ID: <20040507024223.GT14937@nemesis.maddog.net> > 1. I selected a generic 1024x768 LCD panel during installation. When X > first started, it asked for resolution and color depth settings. X only > showed two options for resolution: 640x480 and 800x600. It appeared > that X was in 1024x768 resolution at the time it asked for these > settings. Even now, it's in the correct resolution. However, Display > settings still only shows those two available options. I have the same problem with an Inspiron 600m/Latitiude 600D (confusion result of main board exchange by tech support). Anyway I have the 1400x1050 display and it appears to be in the right mode, but the display config only has picks for 640x480 and 800x600. I selected Dell 1400x1050 LCD during install. I know I need to add it bugzilla, if it isn't already there. Philip From netdemonz at yahoo.com Fri May 7 03:24:37 2004 From: netdemonz at yahoo.com (Brian Bober) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 20:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Unable to complie IT8212F ATA133 drivers Message-ID: <20040507032437.11019.qmail@web90106.mail.scd.yahoo.com> I'm trying to compile the IT8212F ATA133 drivers (LinuxSrc_it8212_092005-05.zip) from http://www.ite.com.tw//productInfo/Download.html Can someone please help me get this to work? I need this card for my drives. With both this card and the Firewire ATA card not working in Fedora 2, I'm really batting zero. I followed all the ways people got them to compile here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/154256 (~/ITERaid)> make make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=/root/ITERaid modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.351' CC [M] /root/ITERaid/iteraid.o In file included from include/linux/module.h:9, from /root/ITERaid/iteraid.c:213: include/linux/config.h:4:28: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory In file included from include/linux/module.h:10, from /root/ITERaid/iteraid.c:213: include/linux/sched.h:4:37: asm/param.h: No such file or directory In file included from include/linux/types.h:13, from include/linux/capability.h:16, from include/linux/sched.h:7, from include/linux/module.h:10, from /root/ITERaid/iteraid.c:213: include/linux/posix_types.h:47:29: asm/posix_types.h: No such file or directory In file included from include/linux/capability.h:16, from include/linux/sched.h:7, from include/linux/module.h:10, from /root/ITERaid/iteraid.c:213: include/linux/types.h:14:23: asm/types.h: No such file or directory In file included from include/linux/capability.h:16, from include/linux/sched.h:7, from include/linux/module.h:10, from /root/ITERaid/iteraid.c:213: include/linux/types.h:18: error: syntax error before "__kernel_dev_t" include/linux/types.h:18: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `__kernel_dev_t' include/linux/types.h:18: warning: data definition has no type or storage class include/linux/types.h:21: error: syntax error before "dev_t" include/linux/types.h:21: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `dev_t' include/linux/types.h:21: warning: data definition has no type or storage class include/linux/types.h:22: error: syntax error before "ino_t" include/linux/types.h:22: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `ino_t' include/linux/types.h:22: warning: data definition has no type or storage class include/linux/types.h:23: error: syntax error before "mode_t" include/linux/types.h:23: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `mode_t' include/linux/types.h:23: warning: data definition has no type or storage class include/linux/types.h:24: error: syntax error before "nlink_t" include/linux/types.h:24: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `nlink_t' include/linux/types.h:24: warning: data definition has no type or storage class include/linux/types.h:25: error: syntax error before "off_t" include/linux/types.h:25: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `off_t' include/linux/types.h:25: warning: data definition has no type or storage class include/linux/types.h:26: error: syntax error before "pid_t" include/linux/types.h:26: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `pid_t' include/linux/types.h:26: warning: data definition has no type or storage class include/linux/types.h:27: error: syntax error before "daddr_t" include/linux/types.h:27: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `daddr_t' include/linux/types.h:27: warning: data definition has no type or storage class include/linux/types.h:29: error: syntax error before "suseconds_t" include/linux/types.h:29: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `suseconds_t' include/linux/types.h:29: warning: data definition has no type or storage class include/linux/types.h:30: error: syntax error before "timer_t" include/linux/types.h:30: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `timer_t' include/linux/types.h:30: warning: data definition has no type or storage class on and on... From vibol at khmer.cc Fri May 7 03:26:19 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:26:19 -0700 Subject: named + chroot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <409B01DB.5050202@khmer.cc> I hardlinked the files because I figure the rh config tools access the main etc-based files rather than the chrooted files when making changes. Hardlinking simplifies the process of not having to copy those two files to the chroot, but I don't believe a chroot environment mandates unique files. The original problem I had, however, was installing the bind-chroot package broke bind (at least it did for me). It didn't automatically copy (or hardlink) the /etc/named.conf and /etc/rndc.key files over to the chroot environment automatically. Thanks for your insight. I'm curious to know if your rndc.key went missing or if it wasn't copied properly in the first place. -Vibol David Kramer wrote: > I guess Im confused as to why you would hardlink those files versus dropping > them directly into your chroot environment. I was always told for a pure > chroot environment that you MUST place all dependent files within the > chroot. I've been running a public DNS for quite some time like that > without issues(KNOCK ON WOOD...) At one point I think I was missing my > rndc.key reference within my named.conf file, once I corrected the path and > had that file within my chroot/etc/dir I was good to go. Let me know if you > need more help with this. > > DK > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com >>[mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Vibol Hou >>Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:49 PM >>To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>Subject: named + chroot >> >> >>I initially installed the bind package alone and then I installed >>bind-chroot and caching-nameserver. This caused rndc to start giving >>errors which I traced back to bind-chroot not containing the appropriate >>named.conf and rndc.key files; to resolve this, I hardlinked the >>/var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf file to /etc/named.conf and >>/var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key to /etc/rndc.key. >> >>Has anyone else experienced this problem? >> >>-Vibol >> >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> > > > > From vibol at khmer.cc Fri May 7 03:46:24 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:46:24 -0700 Subject: Volume control app shows two mixers? Message-ID: <409B0690.5020304@khmer.cc> I've got a Dell Latitude C400 laptop and the volume mixer shows two tabs: Cirrus Logic CS4205 rev3, Silic [Audio Mixer (OSS)] Intel 82801CA-ICH3 [Alsa Mixer] Both appear to be controlling the volumes just fine (Main and PCM) but I was wondering if this is normal. -Vibol From netdemonz at yahoo.com Fri May 7 03:49:50 2004 From: netdemonz at yahoo.com (Brian Bober) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 20:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Volume control app shows two mixers? In-Reply-To: <409B0690.5020304@khmer.cc> Message-ID: <20040507034950.29676.qmail@web90101.mail.scd.yahoo.com> I have the same thing, and what's really weird is if I scroll to the right on the Alsa Mixer, I start seeing two copies of each setting. I'm curious... Do you also have the issue where if you click on the volume control applet and adjust the volume to something below max, it starts dropping slowly to a lower volume? --- Vibol Hou wrote: > I've got a Dell Latitude C400 laptop and the volume mixer shows two tabs: > > Cirrus Logic CS4205 rev3, Silic [Audio Mixer (OSS)] > Intel 82801CA-ICH3 [Alsa Mixer] > > Both appear to be controlling the volumes just fine (Main and PCM) but I > was wondering if this is normal. > > -Vibol > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From vibol at khmer.cc Fri May 7 03:56:04 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:56:04 -0700 Subject: Volume control app shows two mixers? In-Reply-To: <20040507034950.29676.qmail@web90101.mail.scd.yahoo.com> References: <20040507034950.29676.qmail@web90101.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <409B08D4.9060201@khmer.cc> I notice the same duplicates with the Alsa Mixer. My volume control applet appears to work fine after I removed it and re-added it to the panel. It doesn't do what you're describing. Before, I wasn't able to modify the volume at all; it would just go back (snaps back) down to full low if I tried adjusting the bar up. -Vibol Brian Bober wrote: > I have the same thing, and what's really weird is if I scroll to the right on > the Alsa Mixer, I start seeing two copies of each setting. > > I'm curious... Do you also have the issue where if you click on the volume > control applet and adjust the volume to something below max, it starts dropping > slowly to a lower volume? > > --- Vibol Hou wrote: > >>I've got a Dell Latitude C400 laptop and the volume mixer shows two tabs: >> >>Cirrus Logic CS4205 rev3, Silic [Audio Mixer (OSS)] >>Intel 82801CA-ICH3 [Alsa Mixer] >> >>Both appear to be controlling the volumes just fine (Main and PCM) but I >>was wondering if this is normal. >> >>-Vibol >> >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > From zleite at mminternet.com Fri May 7 04:19:16 2004 From: zleite at mminternet.com (Z) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 21:19:16 -0700 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <1083903556.2835.0.camel@z.canteiros.org> Is saslauthd installed and running? It has a test program, testsaslauthd. Make sure it works. On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 13:01, seth doty wrote: > After upgrading from FC1 to FC2 test 3 i realized that FC2 uses cyrus-imap and not the standard IMAP package that FC1 used and that it doesn't use PAM by default because I can no longer login through IMAP. The server is running fine because I can telnet to it but when atempting to login I get a authentication error. I have looked around at cyrus documentation of the cyrus site and redhat's site but the admin tools (mkimap, cm.user, etc) do not work. I even tried changing the .conf file to pam authentication by changing the method to sasl_passwd_check: pam and I tried shadow. any help getting users back in any way would be appreciated, thanks > > _____________________________________________________________ > An ye harm none, do as ye will! > > Get your FREE E-Mail account today! > http://mail.americanwicca.com > From ksnider at flarn.com Fri May 7 04:20:52 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 00:20:52 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <409B0EA4.2010303@flarn.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Anyone have any information (anecdotal or otherwise) on the performance of cyrus versus UW-IMAPd on really big mailboxes (more than 1 gig/30k messages)? Or is this exclusively a function of mailbox format? - -- Ken Snider -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAmw6kRzjvsgE4Ks4RAiRsAJsGGJ7P3AjGUi1sfYv9aDBmiNcFEACgkMBp KXT/c4dq0cIKcTHae8/7Y0U= =d3xs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ojgbagg27ab at msn.com Fri May 7 04:27:46 2004 From: ojgbagg27ab at msn.com (alton bailey) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 00:27:46 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> Message-ID: you have to flush iptabels data and regenerate a new iptables data to slve the problem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr." To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: 05/05/2004 11:39 PM Subject: Re: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it If you execute iptables -L it should give you a listing of your iptables rules. This will tell you if iptables is blocking your port. On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 23:13, Dwaine Garden wrote: > I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. The > firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No one > can connect to the web server on the box. > > I have a router which blocks the ports, so Fedora does not need to have > this job. Can anyone offer any suggestion to getting the port opened > up=> -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From netdemonz at yahoo.com Fri May 7 04:33:31 2004 From: netdemonz at yahoo.com (Brian Bober) Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 21:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Volume control app shows two mixers? In-Reply-To: <409B08D4.9060201@khmer.cc> Message-ID: <20040507043331.51325.qmail@web90104.mail.scd.yahoo.com> I tried adjusting it to no affect. I'm also not getting event sounds for opening programs, etc... Since event sounds are working for Gaim, I'm assuming the event sounds have been removed or something. --- Vibol Hou wrote: > I notice the same duplicates with the Alsa Mixer. > > My volume control applet appears to work fine after I removed it and > re-added it to the panel. It doesn't do what you're describing. > Before, I wasn't able to modify the volume at all; it would just go back > (snaps back) down to full low if I tried adjusting the bar up. > > -Vibol > > Brian Bober wrote: > > I have the same thing, and what's really weird is if I scroll to the right > on > > the Alsa Mixer, I start seeing two copies of each setting. > > > > I'm curious... Do you also have the issue where if you click on the volume > > control applet and adjust the volume to something below max, it starts > dropping > > slowly to a lower volume? > > > > --- Vibol Hou wrote: > > > >>I've got a Dell Latitude C400 laptop and the volume mixer shows two tabs: > >> > >>Cirrus Logic CS4205 rev3, Silic [Audio Mixer (OSS)] > >>Intel 82801CA-ICH3 [Alsa Mixer] > >> > >>Both appear to be controlling the volumes just fine (Main and PCM) but I > >>was wondering if this is normal. > >> > >>-Vibol > >> > >> > >>-- > >>fedora-test-list mailing list > >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >>To unsubscribe: > >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From aoliva at redhat.com Fri May 7 04:47:21 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 07 May 2004 01:47:21 -0300 Subject: 2.6.5-1.349 ignores selinux=0 In-Reply-To: <20040504151405.GA4009@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083683243.19086.99.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <20040504151405.GA4009@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On May 4, 2004, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 11:11:26AM -0400, James Morris wrote: >> On Tue, 4 May 2004, Stephen Smalley wrote: >> >> > Interesting - the CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM option is not set in >> > the kernel configuration in the corresponding kernel SRPM, so the >> > selinux=0 support is disabled. >> >> I don't know why this is disabled now. Arjan? > isn't this obsoleted by the /etc/sysconfig/selinux thing in SysVinit ? If you manage to get that far... But if the policy is messed up in such a way that you can no longer boot, not even in single user, it can get tricky to fix if there's no way to disable selinux from the boot command line. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Fri May 7 05:14:34 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 01:14:34 -0400 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> Message-ID: <409B1B3A.60400@rogers.com> alton bailey wrote: >you have to flush iptabels data and regenerate a new iptables data to slve >the problem > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr." >To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > >Sent: 05/05/2004 11:39 PM >Subject: Re: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it > > >If you execute iptables -L it should give you a listing of your iptables >rules. This will tell you if iptables is blocking your port. > >On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 23:13, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > >>I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. The >>firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No one >>can connect to the web server on the box. >> >>I have a router which blocks the ports, so Fedora does not need to have >>this job. Can anyone offer any suggestion to getting the port opened >>up=> -- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> >> >> > > > > How do I do that????? Dwaine. From steve_dum at mentorg.com Fri May 7 05:43:49 2004 From: steve_dum at mentorg.com (steve_dum at mentorg.com) Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 22:43:49 -0700 Subject: Downloading the 4GB DVD iso In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 05 May 2004 20:53:04 PDT." <200405060353.i463r4LM007766@pinon.wv.mentorg.com> Message-ID: <200405070543.i475hoIe026066@pinon.wv.mentorg.com> In message <200405060353.i463r4LM007766 at pinon.wv.mentorg.com>you write: > Thanks to the responders - I now have 5 ways to ftp files. ftp, ncftp, lftp gftp and perl. The last 3 will actually handle >4Gb files. I found perl the most novel. The 6 line script from the man page for Net::FTP while very basic was the first I found that worked. use Net::FTP; $ftp = Net::FTP->new("mirror.hiwaay.net", Debug => 1); $ftp->login("anonymous",'anonymous at mentor.com'); $ftp->cwd("/redhat/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/iso"); $ftp->get("FC2-test3-i386-DVD.iso"); $ftp->quit; steve From roger at gwch.net Fri May 7 05:50:16 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 07:50:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: cyrus-imap Message-ID: <45911.62.2.21.164.1083909016.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Yes, they build their own package, but this works quite well. I just described once a very small workaround, where you IMHO should get your auth within 5 minutes up und running: 1) in /etc/sysconfig/saslauthd: make sure your MECH-line looks like this: MECH=pam 2) in /etc/imapd.conf adjust the sasl_pwcheck_method and the sasl_mech_list as followed: sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd sasl_mech_list: PLAIN 3) make sure, that saslauthd has been started. if not, start it with /sbin/service saslauthd start. Do no forget to chkconfig --level 2345 saslauthd on, if saslauthd does not start automatically. 4) start or restart your cyrus-server. try now again to 'telnet hostname imap'. if you get connected to it, input the following: a01 login username "password" . This tries to authenticate to the cyrus imap-daemon, where username is a existing username and password is its password, written as you see with "", otherwise it won't work. 5) you should now get this: a01 OK User logged in - means you successed. so, you can type a02 logout, this will quit the connection to cyrus and telnet regulary. Let me know whether it is working or now. HTH Roger From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 7 06:20:38 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 07:20:38 +0100 Subject: Wine In-Reply-To: <20040506213932.GA30920@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <1083827114.16298.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <001101c4337e$72687240$465a9bac@fuckkvslihxl88> <20040506213932.GA30920@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <1083910837.10220.5.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > setarch i686 wine notepad > > you may need to install setarch > > Is there an explanation somewhere of why this works? 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From michal at harddata.com Fri May 7 06:21:53 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 00:21:53 -0600 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu>; from david@bus.ucf.edu on Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:08:53PM -0400 References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:08:53PM -0400, David Collantes wrote: > Cyrus > on FC2 is compiled to use shadow passwords for authentication, so users must > exist on the system before a mailbox is created with cyradm. The main redeeming feature of cyrus, with its huge size and really PITA administration, is that it is possible to have mailboxes _without_ corresponding accounts on a server. So if this is feature is killed it is difficult to imagine why would anybody would want to use _that_. $ rpm -qip cyrus-imapd-2.2.3-10.i386.rpm ..... Size : 18429389 .... and that is not all of it. Also in a "description" part you can read: It differs from other IMAP server implementations in that it is run on "sealed" servers, where users are not normally permitted to log in. So what is here really correct? Michal From phil at phil-anderson.com Fri May 7 06:22:10 2004 From: phil at phil-anderson.com (Phil Anderson) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 16:22:10 +1000 Subject: FC2T3 on Dell Latitude C400 Laptop In-Reply-To: <20040507024223.GT14937@nemesis.maddog.net> References: <409AD0C2.50208@khmer.cc> <20040507024223.GT14937@nemesis.maddog.net> Message-ID: <20040507062210.GK7428@harry.phil-anderson.com> Try to uncomment the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf. There are several bugzilla entries about this, and probably 6 or 7 people who have posted to fedora-test-list about this. Apparently it is because of a bug in pyxf86config. On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:42:23PM -0400, Philip Balister wrote: > Anyway I have the 1400x1050 display and it appears to be in the right mode, > but the display config only has picks for 640x480 and 800x600. I selected > Dell 1400x1050 LCD during install. From almacha at altern.org Fri May 7 08:38:41 2004 From: almacha at altern.org (Almacha) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 08:38:41 +0000 Subject: unable to recompile kernel In-Reply-To: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> References: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> Message-ID: <1083919120.2977.19.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> I have downloaded kernel (source and binary) 2.6.5-1.353 and tried to recompile 2.6.5-1.353 under itself. I have the same problem. In fact I can compile the kernel but I have to enter make each time it stops. Here is the exact error message I get when it stops: CC [M] drivers/scsi/BusLogic.o In file included from drivers/scsi/BusLogic.c:53: drivers/scsi/FlashPoint.c: Dans la fonction << FPT_shandem >>: drivers/scsi/FlashPoint.c:6601: internal compiler error: Erreur de segmentation Veuillez soumettre un rapport complet d'anomalies, avec le source pr?-trait? si n?cessaire. Consultez pour plus de d?tail. The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem. make[2]: *** [drivers/scsi/BusLogic.o] Erreur 1 make[1]: *** [drivers/scsi] Erreur 2 make: *** [drivers] Erreur 2 Notice that it doesn't crash on a specific file: it could have been any other. Here is only an example of crash, but I got also this for other files. As arjanv at redhat.com told me here is the output of cat /proc/ide/hda/identify (hda is the harddisk on which Fedora is installed) 0c5a 3fff 0000 0010 0000 0000 003f 0000 0000 0000 3348 5634 3557 5044 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 0000 1000 0004 332e 3735 2020 2020 5354 3338 3030 3231 4120 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 0000 2f00 0000 0200 0200 0007 3fff 0010 003f fc10 00fb 0110 f8b0 0950 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 00f0 0078 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 003e 0000 346b 4b01 4000 3469 0201 4000 203f 0000 0000 fefe fffe 4000 8080 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 f8b0 0950 f8b0 0950 2020 0002 42b6 0200 1903 3c06 3c02 ffff 07c6 0100 0804 09b1 0400 0002 0030 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 00a3 000b 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 68a5 From almacha at altern.org Fri May 7 08:44:05 2004 From: almacha at altern.org (Almacha) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 08:44:05 +0000 Subject: unable to recompile kernel In-Reply-To: <1083874901.11554.1.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> <1083874901.11554.1.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1083919445.2973.21.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> Sorry, but what do you mean by "load of compliation"? Le jeu 06/05/2004 ? 20:21, Andrew Farris a ?crit : > On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 19:16 +0000, Almacha wrote: > > > -> If somebody already finished a kernel recompilation of > > linux-2.6.5-1.327 AND UNDER linux-2.6.5-1.327 tell me and ignore my > > post. But I wanted to be sure that it is possible. > > Have done both, several times now attempting to get bootsplash.org code > working correctly (which it now does) :) The kernel does compile, so I > suspect other problems with the hardware.. load of compilation? > > -- > Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) > fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men > to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) > From arnling at kth.se Fri May 7 07:25:59 2004 From: arnling at kth.se (Joakim Arnling) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 09:25:59 +0200 Subject: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 In-Reply-To: References: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083885388.3176.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083914758.2741.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> It's under "Control Key Position". Not very logical maybe. On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 01:45, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > Where did you find this in the keyboard-options in gnome? I only see > options to effect the behavior of the caps-lock key, however there are > only 4 options, and all of them are just different ways to capitlize. > > -Quasar > > On Fri, 7 May 2004, Joakim Arnling wrote: > > > Isn't it funny, just when you posted the question, you find the answer. > > The option is to find under the keyboard-options in gnome! > > > > fre 2004-05-07 klockan 01.08 skrev Joakim Arnling: > > > When i include the line: > > > > > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > > > > > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the > > > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. > > > > > > This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > //Joakim > > > > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > From anaranjo at prosap.biz Thu May 6 19:46:21 2004 From: anaranjo at prosap.biz (anaranjo) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 02:46:21 +0700 Subject: Serial Ata Dirver Status Message-ID: <20040507024621.M86279@prosap.biz> Hi, Does anyone know what's the current status of redhats support for this Serial ata Chipset?? Thanks, Angel Naranjo From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Fri May 7 10:12:06 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:12:06 +0300 Subject: Unable to complie IT8212F ATA133 drivers In-Reply-To: <20040507032437.11019.qmail@web90106.mail.scd.yahoo.com> References: <20040507032437.11019.qmail@web90106.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200405071312.06919.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Brian Bober kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika perjantai, 7. toukokuuta 2004 06:24): > I'm trying to compile the IT8212F ATA133 drivers > (LinuxSrc_it8212_092005-05.zip) from > http://www.ite.com.tw//productInfo/Download.html That version is for 2.4 kernels only, the driver with 2.6.x support is further down the download page. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From terry1 at beam.ltd.uk Fri May 7 10:29:33 2004 From: terry1 at beam.ltd.uk (Terry Barnaby) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 11:29:33 +0100 Subject: Using DVB interfaces on Fedora 2 test3 Message-ID: <409B650D.9040806@beam.ltd.uk> Hi, I have installed the latest Fedora 2 test3 system, which seems to be working Ok. I am trying to set up the the system to use a DVB-T tuner card. I notice that the kernel (2.6.5-1.327) has the DVB drivers built as modules Ok. My questions: 1. There do not seem to be any /dev/dvb device entries ? Is this a Fedora 2 bug, or do I need to create them. 2. Do I need to put any entries in /etc/modprobe.conf Cheers Terry -- Dr Terry Barnaby BEAM Ltd Phone: +44 1454 324512 Northavon Business Center, Dean Rd Fax: +44 1454 313172 Yate, Bristol, BS37 5NH, UK Email: terry at beam.ltd.uk Web: www.beam.ltd.uk BEAM for: Visually Impaired X-Terminals, Parallel Processing, Software "Tandems are twice the fun !" From peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de Fri May 7 10:59:13 2004 From: peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de (Peter Klein) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 12:59:13 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks (Alessandro Torrisi) In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E18@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E18@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <1083927553.409b6c01c95f5@webmail.uni-konstanz.de> Zitat von Fred New : > On May 6, 2004, at 17:42, Alessandro Torrisi wrote: > > Hi! I've got the same problem with an ATI RADEON 9000 > > Mobility + MONITOR LCD > > 1280x800 WideScreen (Packard Bell AMD64 3000Mhz M3) !!! > > The problem seems to be common, not only with Fedora but with all > > distributions!!! For example I tried to install Gentoo and > > also with that > > there is the same problem... > > > > I configured it with VESA DRIVER an I can use X in this way, > > even if the GUI > > is very very SLOW. > > > > Trying to use ATI DRIVERS (kernel ones) it outputs on the > > second PORT of the > > ATI Device and if I send a CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill X a > > BLANK SCREEN is > > the only thing I can see and I have to REBOOT the notebook !!! > > > > PLEASE HELP US. > > Alessandro Torrisi. > > > Someone was talking about something like this 2 days ago. Is this > helpful?: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg00368.html > > Fred > Thanks, but I've already read all relevant threads on that list and honestly: I dont understand why modelines should cause any effect on an LCD?! Weren't the modelines for CRT only? I thought they provide physical information (number of real pixels, time for the beam to return to the next line, etc.), but AFAIK LCDs refreashes all pixels at time?! Best regards, Peter > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From terry1 at beam.ltd.uk Fri May 7 11:13:20 2004 From: terry1 at beam.ltd.uk (Terry Barnaby) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 12:13:20 +0100 Subject: Fedora2-test3: Problem with Display configuration with non DPMS monitors Message-ID: <409B6F50.7050207@beam.ltd.uk> Hi, When I install Fedora2-test3 or when I try and configure the display on my system I cannot modify the display resolution beyond "800x600". The monitor is an older Non DPMS one. I have tried setting the monitor to "Generic 1280x1024" the X always comes up in "800x600". There seems to be some problem in the Display configuration program. The monitor section in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file is set wrong: Section "Monitor" ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync 31.5 - 79.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 90.0 ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync 31.5 - 37.9 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 70.0 ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync 31.5 - 79.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 90.0 Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor 1280x1024" ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync 31.5 - 79.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 90.0 Option "dpms" EndSection Uncommenting the latter two HorizSync and VertRefresh lines and commenting out DPMS fixes the problem. Terry -- Dr Terry Barnaby BEAM Ltd Phone: +44 1454 324512 Northavon Business Center, Dean Rd Fax: +44 1454 313172 Yate, Bristol, BS37 5NH, UK Email: terry at beam.ltd.uk Web: www.beam.ltd.uk BEAM for: Visually Impaired X-Terminals, Parallel Processing, Software "Tandems are twice the fun !" From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Fri May 7 11:48:36 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 06:48:36 -0500 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <409B1B3A.60400@rogers.com> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> <1083814761.28152.1.camel@comm700-c1201-dhcp045.bu.edu> <409B1B3A.60400@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1083930516.2940.2.camel@saturn.stcl.edu> To stop iptables completely just do: /etc/init.d/iptables stop To leave it running and allow any to any connectivity do: iptables -L iptables -X iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -j ACCEPT Timothy On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 00:14, Dwaine Garden wrote: > alton bailey wrote: > > >you have to flush iptabels data and regenerate a new iptables data to slve > >the problem > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jerry O. Dueitt, Jr." > >To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > > >Sent: 05/05/2004 11:39 PM > >Subject: Re: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it > > > > > >If you execute iptables -L it should give you a listing of your iptables > >rules. This will tell you if iptables is blocking your port. > > > >On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 23:13, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > > > > >>I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. The > >>firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No one > >>can connect to the web server on the box. > >> > >>I have a router which blocks the ports, so Fedora does not need to have > >>this job. Can anyone offer any suggestion to getting the port opened > >>up=> -- > >>fedora-test-list mailing list > >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >>To unsubscribe: > >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > How do I do that????? > > Dwaine. > From enormandy at stardel.com Fri May 7 11:53:05 2004 From: enormandy at stardel.com (Elaine Normandy) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 05:53:05 -0600 Subject: Mozilla - Firefox - Epiphany discrepancies Message-ID: <409B78A1.4030907@stardel.com> When I try to administer my website on my ISP (which uses CPanel, lots of javascript) Mozilla takes an extremely long time to load the pages. At first, I thought my ISP had slowed down, and cursed them rather than Mozilla. However, both Epiphany and Firefox load the site quickly. The only other discrepancy I have noticed is that I can use Epiphany to check boxes when I update my patron account at my local library, and Mozilla doesn't do the exact function. (This site also seems to use javascript.) I am baffled by this behavior, because I assume since they all use the same gecko engine, they would all be handling javascript the same way. Any insights? I am running an up2date version of a clean install of FC2test3. -- Elaine Normandy (Colorado Springs) Weblog: http://www.stardel.com/fiveacres/ From gstool at earthlink.net Fri May 7 12:46:13 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 07:46:13 -0500 Subject: Wine In-Reply-To: <1083910837.10220.5.camel@T7.linux> References: <1083827114.16298.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <001101c4337e$72687240$465a9bac@fuckkvslihxl88> <20040506213932.GA30920@jadzia.bu.edu> <1083910837.10220.5.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <409B8515.6030206@earthlink.net> Paul wrote: > Hi, > > >>>setarch i686 wine notepad >>>you may need to install setarch >> >>Is there an explanation somewhere of why this works? > > > IIRC, it stops the prelinking which seems to be the root of the problem > > TTFN > > Paul > The following is from Codeweavers FAQ for Crossover Office: 6.1.1.1. Why doesn't CrossOver work on Fedora and RedHat Enterprise Linux 3? With the Fedora and RHEL 3 releases, RedHat has introduced two new features to their Linux: 'prelink' and 'exec shield'. Unfortunately both completely break Wine and therefore CrossOver. We are still working to better understand the problem but the current workaround is to disable both. To disable prelink, edit /etc/sysconfig/prelink and change 'yes' to 'no'. Then manually run /etc/cron.daily/prelink as root. To disable exec shield edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local and add the line echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield This will turn exec shield off at boot time, to turn it off now type the following command as root # echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield On Redhat Enterprise Linux 3 you will need to run the following command in the same terminal you launch OfficeSetup or a Crossover based application. $ ulimit -s unlimited The above command only affects the shell that it is run in. Hope this helps. Gerry Tool From baron at psych.upenn.edu Fri May 7 12:12:59 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:12:59 -0400 Subject: Mozilla - Firefox - Epiphany discrepancies In-Reply-To: <409B78A1.4030907@stardel.com> References: <409B78A1.4030907@stardel.com> Message-ID: <20040507121259.GA8938@psych> On 05/07/04 05:53, Elaine Normandy wrote: > >When I try to administer my website on my ISP (which uses CPanel, lots >of javascript) Mozilla takes an extremely long time to load the pages. >At first, I thought my ISP had slowed down, and cursed them rather than >Mozilla. However, both Epiphany and Firefox load the site quickly. > >The only other discrepancy I have noticed is that I can use Epiphany to >check boxes when I update my patron account at my local library, and >Mozilla doesn't do the exact function. (This site also seems to use >javascript.) > >I am baffled by this behavior, because I assume since they all use the >same gecko engine, they would all be handling javascript the same way. >Any insights? I am running an up2date version of a clean install of >FC2test3. It is really hard to say much without knowing the sites. But I just evaluated Mozilla and Firefox (and Opera), for Linux, for Penn's browser evaluation process, and I found no such differences on quite a number of sites (and I use JavaScript extensively in my research, so I would have noticed a problem in Mozilla, which is my default browser). Some suggestions: First, check your preferences and make sure they are the same. You might, for example, have Mozilla set to load the page every time, while the others are set to load it once per session or less. You might also have set some sort of proxy setting that you don't need. Second, try a later version of Mozilla. 1.6 is pretty old. The pre-release of 1.7 is very good. I use the nighly builds of 1.8 and they are fine. (Just get the tar.gz file. Unzip it in your home directory, and run it from there: mozilla/mozilla. I have a button for it.) But I really doubt this is the problem. JavaScript has changed very little. Third, look at what else the pages have. For example, if they contain Java, and you are using different versions of Java or none at all, that could slow things down. If you can provide url's, I could explore further, but probably you need passwords. Jon -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From enormandy at stardel.com Fri May 7 12:19:01 2004 From: enormandy at stardel.com (Elaine Normandy) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 06:19:01 -0600 Subject: Mozilla - Firefox - Epiphany discrepancies In-Reply-To: <409B78A1.4030907@stardel.com> References: <409B78A1.4030907@stardel.com> Message-ID: <409B7EB5.4070103@stardel.com> I just figured out that running the privoxy proxy was causing the problem with CPanel as viewed from Mozilla, but the other discrepancy still remains even after I turned off the proxy. Elaine Normandy wrote: > > When I try to administer my website on my ISP (which uses CPanel, lots > of javascript) Mozilla takes an extremely long time to load the > pages. At first, I thought my ISP had slowed down, and cursed them > rather than Mozilla. However, both Epiphany and Firefox load the site > quickly. > The only other discrepancy I have noticed is that I can use Epiphany > to check boxes when I update my patron account at my local library, > and Mozilla doesn't do the exact function. (This site also seems to > use javascript.) > > I am baffled by this behavior, because I assume since they all use the > same gecko engine, they would all be handling javascript the same > way. Any insights? I am running an up2date version of a clean > install of FC2test3. > -- Elaine Normandy (Colorado Springs) Weblog: http://www.stardel.com/fiveacres/ From russell at coker.com.au Fri May 7 13:12:46 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 23:12:46 +1000 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <409B0EA4.2010303@flarn.com> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <409B0EA4.2010303@flarn.com> Message-ID: <200405072312.46130.russell@coker.com.au> On Fri, 7 May 2004 14:20, Ken Snider wrote: > Anyone have any information (anecdotal or otherwise) on the performance of > cyrus versus UW-IMAPd on really big mailboxes (more than 1 gig/30k > messages)? Or is this exclusively a function of mailbox format? If you use mbox or mbox+ formats then performance will suck terribly on large mail boxes. For decent performance you need either Maildir or a database, although I suspect that most mail servers will have some performance issues with such a large mailbox regardless of format. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From whb at ceimaine.org Fri May 7 13:25:20 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 09:25:20 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <200405072312.46130.russell@coker.com.au> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <409B0EA4.2010303@flarn.com> <200405072312.46130.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1083936319.1880.1.camel@d1ntpm41> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:12, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2004 14:20, Ken Snider wrote: > > Anyone have any information (anecdotal or otherwise) on the performance of > > cyrus versus UW-IMAPd on really big mailboxes (more than 1 gig/30k > > messages)? Or is this exclusively a function of mailbox format? > > If you use mbox or mbox+ formats then performance will suck terribly on large > mail boxes. For decent performance you need either Maildir or a database, > although I suspect that most mail servers will have some performance issues > with such a large mailbox regardless of format. > Anyone know if it reads the mbx format? UW-IMAPD docs said the was a fast mailbox format that allows concurrent access. We use it. From baron at psych.upenn.edu Fri May 7 13:38:17 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:38:17 -0400 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) Message-ID: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> I've been trying to get "suspend" to work on a Dell Inspiron 9100. Any of the sleep states will do, for a start. Here's the relevant information: I can blank the screen using xset dpms force off (which I have set on a button now) I followed some instructions for getting ACPI to work on the Inspiron 8500, which were the best I could find for anything close: http://ltswww.epfl.ch/~dsanta/resources/dell-i8500-linux This almost works. I think that the main reason it doesn't work is the change in the kernel, not the change from the i8500 to the i9100. Before I did this, Fn-Suspend (function key plus suspend button, which is on the Esc key) did nothing. After rebooting, it now does something. It blanks the screen for about 10 sec, and then the screen comes back. Checking /var/log/acpi yields the following. I can tell that some of this really happened, because I was logged in from another computer and I got cut off, so eth0 really stopped (but it came back spontaneously after the 10 sec). The script for the i8500 uses apmd, which is supposedly disabled (but, as I say, it does something). I suspect that there is another way to enter sleep states, to go into /etc/acpi/actions. (The links at the bottom of http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/ seem to have a good discussion of sleep states and other things.) Suggestions? ----- [Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] received event "button/sleep SBTN 00000080 00000006" [Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] notifying client 4947[500:500] [Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] executing action "/etc/acpi/actions/suspend button/sleep SBTN 00000080 00000006" [Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] BEGIN HANDLER MESSAGES Shutting down interface eth0: [ OK ] Shutting down loopback interface: [ OK ] /dev/hda: issuing standby command /dev/hdc: issuing standby command Mounting other filesystems: [ OK ] No APM support in kernel [Fri May 7 09:29:48 2004] END HANDLER MESSAGES [Fri May 7 09:29:48 2004] action exited with status 0 [Fri May 7 09:29:48 2004] completed event "button/sleep SBTN 00000080 00000006" ---- -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From phil at phil-anderson.com Fri May 7 13:45:15 2004 From: phil at phil-anderson.com (Phil Anderson) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 23:45:15 +1000 Subject: Fedora2-test3: Problem with Display configuration with non DPMS monitors In-Reply-To: <409B6F50.7050207@beam.ltd.uk> References: <409B6F50.7050207@beam.ltd.uk> Message-ID: <20040507134515.GA16568@harry.phil-anderson.com> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 12:13:20PM +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > When I install Fedora2-test3 or when I try and configure the display on > my system I cannot modify the display resolution beyond "800x600". > The monitor is an older Non DPMS one. I have tried setting the monitor > to "Generic 1280x1024" the X always comes up in "800x600". https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120950#c8 From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Fri May 7 13:47:35 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 15:47:35 +0200 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1083937654.4752.5.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Dwaine, > I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. The > firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No one > can connect to the web server on the box. If the firewall is not running it can not be your problem. As people pointed out, the server you mention in another post does not exist in DNS (ie the name is unknown on the internet). That is your problem. Did you register the domain? Did you register it with DNS (ask your ISP)? You can try to reach your server by IP address and see if that works. Another thing that could block connections to the servers are tcpwrappers (see /etc/hosts.deny and -.allow), but in the default setup these do not prevent connections, so if you didn't touch them you should be fine. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From gary at sharcnet.ca Fri May 7 13:58:26 2004 From: gary at sharcnet.ca (Gary Molenkamp) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Problems with nss_ldap and group membership Message-ID: I'm testing nss_ldap under FC2t3 and have run into a problem with using groups under nss_ldap. In my ldap server I have: cn=A,ou=Person,dc=exmaple,dc=com uidNumber: 130000 gidNumber: 130000 cn=A,ou=Group,dc=exmaple,dc=com gidNumber: 130000 cn=App_users,ou=Group,dc=exmaple,dc=com gidNumber: 1000 MemberUID: 130000 I have nsswitch.conf, /etc/pam.d/sshd configured to allow logins, etc. Such that: getent passwd A A:x:130000:500::/home/A:/bin/bash getent group A A:x:130000: getent group App_user App_user:x:1000:130000 The problem is for file access control based on group membership. ie: drxwrxw--- root App_users /tmp/testing/ is not searchable by user A. Changing group membership of the directory to A's primary group works, as does changing ownership of the directory to A. Have I missed something? -- Gary Molenkamp SHARCNET Systems Administrator University of Western Ontario gary at sharcnet.ca http://www.sharcnet.ca (519) 661-2111 x88429 (519) 661-4000 From baron at psych.upenn.edu Fri May 7 13:49:50 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:49:50 -0400 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> Message-ID: <20040507134950.GA28945@psych> Small addendum. Sorry. On 05/07/04 09:38, Jonathan Baron wrote: >I've been trying to get "suspend" to work on a Dell Inspiron >9100. Any of the sleep states will do, for a start. Here's the >relevant information: > >I can blank the screen using >xset dpms force off >(which I have set on a button now) > >I followed some instructions for getting ACPI to work on the >Inspiron 8500, which were the best I could find for anything >close: >http://ltswww.epfl.ch/~dsanta/resources/dell-i8500-linux When I did this, all I did was install the scripts from http://ltswww.epfl.ch/~dsanta/resources/soft/acpid-events-0.3.tar.gz because it seemed that everything else had been done in the new kernel. >This almost works. I think that the main reason it doesn't >work is the change in the kernel, not the change from the i8500 >to the i9100. > >Before I did this, Fn-Suspend (function key plus suspend button, >which is on the Esc key) did nothing. After rebooting, it now >does something. It blanks the screen for about 10 sec, and then >the screen comes back. > >Checking /var/log/acpi yields the following. I can tell that >some of this really happened, because I was logged in from >another computer and I got cut off, so eth0 really stopped (but >it came back spontaneously after the 10 sec). > >The script for the i8500 uses apmd, which is supposedly disabled >(but, as I say, it does something). I suspect that there is >another way to enter sleep states, to go into /etc/acpi/actions. >(The links at the bottom of >http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/ seem to have a good >discussion of sleep states and other things.) > >Suggestions? > >----- >[Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] received event "button/sleep SBTN >00000080 00000006" >[Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] notifying client 4947[500:500] >[Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] executing action >"/etc/acpi/actions/suspend button/sleep SBTN 00000080 00000006" >[Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] BEGIN HANDLER MESSAGES >Shutting down interface eth0: [ OK ] >Shutting down loopback interface: [ OK ] > >/dev/hda: > issuing standby command > >/dev/hdc: > issuing standby command >Mounting other filesystems: [ OK ] >No APM support in kernel >[Fri May 7 09:29:48 2004] END HANDLER MESSAGES >[Fri May 7 09:29:48 2004] action exited with status 0 >[Fri May 7 09:29:48 2004] completed event "button/sleep SBTN > 00000080 00000006" >---- > >-- >Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania >Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From chris at menzel.com Fri May 7 13:52:35 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 15:52:35 +0200 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> Message-ID: <1083937955.2666.7.camel@stage.menzel.com> On Fr, 2004-05-07 at 15:38, Jonathan Baron wrote: > Suggestions? You can do 'echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep' to enter suspend. It works on my Dell Precision M50, but after powering it on, the display remains black and the network is not coming back. If I switch to text console and log in as root I can shutdown the machine (typing everything blind). This is for me one of the biggest problems in FC2T3 because I was used to close the notebook to suspend it and open it to resume work. Now I have to shutdown every time I want to move the laptop. -- Christian Menzel From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Fri May 7 13:52:48 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 09:52:48 -0400 Subject: Prelink Error from cron.daily Message-ID: <1083937968.9025.189.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> I could not find anything in bugzilla, but there were a couple postings last month on the mailing list, but no resolution. Root is receiving daily email from cron.daily indicating a failure in prelink. Below is the tail of /var/log/prelink.log and the email received: Prelinking /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/libxcr645li.so Prelinking /usr/lib/libgthread-1.2.so.0.0.10 /usr/sbin/prelink: Warning: /usr/lib/libgthread-1.2.so.0 has undefined non-weak symbols prelink: cxx.c:68: find_cxx_sym: Assertion `n < ndeps' failed. Prelinking /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/oilify Prelinking /usr/lib/libbeecrypt.so.6.2.0 Prelinking /usr/lib/libbz2.so.1.0.2 Prelinking /usr/lib/librpmio-4.3.so Prelinking /usr/lib/libelf-0.95.so Prelinking /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.3.so Prelinking /usr/lib/librpm-4.3.so Prelinking /usr/lib/rpm/javadeps Prelinking /usr/bin/esdcat Prelinking /lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 Prelinking /sbin/badblocks Prelinking /usr/bin/kreadconfig Prelink failed with return value 134 The email received: Subject: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.daily X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: /etc/cron.daily/prelink: /etc/cron.daily/prelink: line 38: 28259 Aborted /usr/sbin/prelink -av $PRELINK_OPTS >>/var/log/prelink.log 2>&1 Also, if I run /usr/sbin/prelink -av -mR -f manually it stops with prelink: cxx.c:68: find_cxx_sym: Assertion `n < ndeps' failed. Return code is 134. Bob... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mattdm at mattdm.org Fri May 7 14:01:06 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:01:06 -0400 Subject: Serial Ata Dirver Status In-Reply-To: <20040507024621.M86279@prosap.biz> References: <20040507024621.M86279@prosap.biz> Message-ID: <20040507140106.GA27173@jadzia.bu.edu> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 02:46:21AM +0700, anaranjo wrote: > Does anyone know what's the current status > of redhats support for this Serial ata Chipset?? for which one? -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From baron at psych.upenn.edu Fri May 7 14:04:46 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:04:46 -0400 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <1083937955.2666.7.camel@stage.menzel.com> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> <1083937955.2666.7.camel@stage.menzel.com> Message-ID: <20040507140446.GA29967@psych> On 05/07/04 15:52, Christian Menzel wrote: >On Fr, 2004-05-07 at 15:38, Jonathan Baron wrote: > >> Suggestions? >You can do 'echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep' to enter suspend. I tried this just from the command line (as root of course) and absolutely nothing happens. Hmm. I agree that this is a serious issue for laptops. Jon -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From whb at ceimaine.org Fri May 7 14:05:44 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 10:05:44 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 02:21, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:08:53PM -0400, David Collantes wrote: > > Cyrus > > on FC2 is compiled to use shadow passwords for authentication, so users must > > exist on the system before a mailbox is created with cyradm. > > The main redeeming feature of cyrus, with its huge size and > really PITA administration, is that it is possible to have > mailboxes _without_ corresponding accounts on a server. So > if this is feature is killed it is difficult to imagine why > would anybody would want to use _that_. Just to confirm what I have read: FC2 will NOT include the UW-IMAPD (I didn't see this in the release notes)??? If so, and if it it true that cyrus is not a drop-in replacement, can we start developing some upgrade documentation? Could people who have done this upgrade before give some details? Is dovecot a better choice for those upgrading from UW-IMAPd? From masterra at m-ra.net Fri May 7 14:09:32 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:09:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <20040507140446.GA29967@psych> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> <1083937955.2666.7.camel@stage.menzel.com> <20040507140446.GA29967@psych> Message-ID: My HP Pavilion ze4430us suspends when i echo 3 into /proc/acpi/sleep, and everything looks good until i try to turn it back on. Opening the lid does nothing, and pressing any of the hotkeys or the power key cause it to begin to power up, and then it just shuts down. This could be an issue with the laptop, however. The options in the sleep file do not include 1, which i hear means the bios may not properly support sleeping. It works in windows, of course. On Fri, 7 May 2004, Jonathan Baron wrote: > On 05/07/04 15:52, Christian Menzel wrote: > >On Fr, 2004-05-07 at 15:38, Jonathan Baron wrote: > > > >> Suggestions? > >You can do 'echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep' to enter suspend. > > I tried this just from the command line (as root of course) and > absolutely nothing happens. Hmm. > > I agree that this is a serious issue for laptops. > > Jon > -- > Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania > Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From anaranjo at prosap.biz Fri May 7 02:34:49 2004 From: anaranjo at prosap.biz (anaranjo) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:34:49 +0700 Subject: Serial Ata Dirver Status In-Reply-To: <20040507140106.GA27173@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <20040507024621.M86279@prosap.biz> <20040507140106.GA27173@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <20040507093449.M79323@prosap.biz> Its for Sis 964 South Bridge > On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 02:46:21AM +0700, anaranjo wrote: > > Does anyone know what's the current status > > of redhats support for this Serial ata Chipset?? > > for which one? > > -- > Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org > Boston University Linux ------> > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 7 14:36:20 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Will Backman said: [snip] > Just to confirm what I have read: FC2 will NOT include the UW-IMAPD (I > didn't see this in the release notes)??? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en.html "imap ? Replaced by cyrus-imapd" > If so, and if it it true that cyrus is not a drop-in replacement, can we > start developing some upgrade documentation? Could people who have done > this upgrade before give some details? > > Is dovecot a better choice for those upgrading from UW-IMAPd? dovecot is included too. -- William Hooper From richibb at rochester.rr.com Fri May 7 14:35:59 2004 From: richibb at rochester.rr.com (Rich Ibbotson) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 10:35:59 -0400 Subject: unable to disable selinux Message-ID: <409B9ECF.80901@rochester.rr.com> Hi all, Sorry if this is covered somewhere else, I haven't been able to find the answer in the archives. I've just upgraded from RH8.0 to FC2 test3 and I'm trying to disable selinux until I get other problems sorted out. I've tried passing selinux=0 on the kernel line in grub, and I've also tried creating a file /etc/sysconfig/selinux with the contents SELINUX=disabled. Either way, whenever I issue a command like: rpm -V x11-org I see the error message: /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory so I think selinux is enabled. /usr/bin/selinuxenabled exits with a return value of 1. What do I need to do to really disable selinux? I'm running kernel 2.6.5-1.327. thanks, Rich From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Fri May 7 14:42:10 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:42:10 -0500 Subject: SCSI CD-Writer testers needed. Message-ID: <20040507144210.GA21660@comcast.net> There was an issue with the SCSI cdwriting portion of k3b in test3. I believe it is patched but we need testers to verify. Anyone running test3 or later FC2 with SCSI CD Recording hardware is invited to test and feedback as soon as possible please (it is today or never). You can grab it from: http://people.redhat.com/notting/k3b-0.11.9-4.i386.rpm Feedback here, or a works for me/doesnt work for me to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122096 Would be appreciated. Thanks, Justin M. Forbes From whb at ceimaine.org Fri May 7 14:44:28 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 10:44:28 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <1083941067.1880.20.camel@d1ntpm41> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 10:36, William Hooper wrote: > Will Backman said: > [snip] > > Just to confirm what I have read: FC2 will NOT include the UW-IMAPD (I > > didn't see this in the release notes)??? > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en.html > "imap ? Replaced by cyrus-imapd" Sorry, missed that. Guess I was looking for "uw-imapd" > > > If so, and if it it true that cyrus is not a drop-in replacement, can we > > start developing some upgrade documentation? Could people who have done > > this upgrade before give some details? > > > > Is dovecot a better choice for those upgrading from UW-IMAPd? > > dovecot is included too. >From http://dovecot.org/ "Shared mailboxes aren't yet supported." "mbox support isn't yet perfect. For personal use it seems to work quite well, but there are a few known problems such as sometimes losing mails in Drafts-mailbox" I'm scared. From jkeating at j2solutions.net Fri May 7 14:53:31 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 07:53:31 -0700 Subject: unable to disable selinux In-Reply-To: <409B9ECF.80901@rochester.rr.com> References: <409B9ECF.80901@rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: <200405070753.31310.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 May 2004 07:35, Rich Ibbotson wrote: > I see the error message: > /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory install the policy rpm. RPM is checking for the file even before it checks to see if selinux is disabled or not (bug?) - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAm6Lr4v2HLvE71NURAkmCAJ0Zg19Q7tWNz+LiPblokgXaukGk/QCgoidS 1kIcJvXT4g2hfGD1OzvqmqQ= =myzm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gstool at earthlink.net Fri May 7 14:53:31 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 09:53:31 -0500 Subject: unable to disable selinux In-Reply-To: <409B9ECF.80901@rochester.rr.com> References: <409B9ECF.80901@rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: <409BA2EB.50008@earthlink.net> Rich Ibbotson wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry if this is covered somewhere else, I haven't been able to find the > answer in the archives. > > I've just upgraded from RH8.0 to FC2 test3 and I'm trying to disable > selinux until I get other problems sorted out. I've tried passing > selinux=0 on the kernel line in grub, and I've also tried creating a > file /etc/sysconfig/selinux with the contents SELINUX=disabled. > > Either way, whenever I issue a command like: > rpm -V x11-org > > I see the error message: > /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory > > so I think selinux is enabled. /usr/bin/selinuxenabled exits with a > return value of 1. > > What do I need to do to really disable selinux? I'm running kernel > 2.6.5-1.327. > > thanks, > Rich > > try updating to the latest kernel (2.6.5-1.351 I believe.) Gerry From david at bus.ucf.edu Fri May 7 14:54:36 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 10:54:36 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1083941067.1880.20.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1083941067.1880.20.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <1083941876.7165.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/7/2004 10:44 AM, Will Backman wrote: > From http://dovecot.org/ > "Shared mailboxes aren't yet supported." > "mbox support isn't yet perfect. For personal use it seems to work quite > well, but there are a few known problems such as sometimes losing mails > in Drafts-mailbox" > > I'm scared. Cyrus is better. Shared mailboxes, quota, robust. I am going to play with it a bit more to see if I can get it to work without the need of having the user on the shadow file (imap user not a unix user). Cheers, -- David From pawsa-gpa at theochem.kth.se Fri May 7 14:56:03 2004 From: pawsa-gpa at theochem.kth.se (Pawel Salek) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:56:03 +0000 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <200405072312.46130.russell@coker.com.au> (from russell@coker.com.au on Fri, May 07, 2004 at 15:12:46 +0200) References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <409B0EA4.2010303@flarn.com> <200405072312.46130.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1083941763l.1400l.1l@pi.biotech.kth.se> On 2004.05.07 15:12, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2004 14:20, Ken Snider wrote: > > Anyone have any information (anecdotal or otherwise) on the > performance of > > cyrus versus UW-IMAPd on really big mailboxes (more than 1 gig/30k > > messages)? Or is this exclusively a function of mailbox format? > > If you use mbox or mbox+ formats then performance will suck terribly > on large mail boxes. For decent performance you need either Maildir > or a database, although I suspect that most mail servers will have > some performance issues with such a large mailbox regardless of > format. The recommended mailbox format for UW-IMAP is mbx - other mailbox formats are just for compatibility with other software. What is the mbox+ format that you are referring to? I do not see it mentioned in the list of mailbox formats supported by UW-IMAP[1]. Regarding the performance, it really depends on what you do. Cyrus makes it easier to setup large "sealed" imap servers, tends to use less memory per connection (the difference - from my experience - is not large) and usually opens mailboxes bit faster. On the other hand, if you do lot of searches, UW-IMAP is definetely superior. Otherwise, they are pretty similar. Pawel [1]. http://www.washington.edu/imap/documentation/drivers.txt.html From jakub at redhat.com Fri May 7 13:54:08 2004 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:54:08 -0400 Subject: Prelink Error from cron.daily In-Reply-To: <1083937968.9025.189.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <1083937968.9025.189.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20040507135407.GR30909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 09:52:48AM -0400, Bob Chiodini wrote: > I could not find anything in bugzilla, but there were a couple postings > last month on the mailing list, but no resolution. > > Root is receiving daily email from cron.daily indicating a failure in > prelink. Below is the tail of /var/log/prelink.log and the email > received: > > Prelinking /usr/lib/ooo-1.1/program/libxcr645li.so > Prelinking /usr/lib/libgthread-1.2.so.0.0.10 > /usr/sbin/prelink: Warning: /usr/lib/libgthread-1.2.so.0 has undefined > non-weak symbols > prelink: cxx.c:68: find_cxx_sym: Assertion `n < ndeps' failed. Upgrade to prelink-0.3.2-1 in rawhide. Jakub From pbender at qualcomm.com Fri May 7 15:05:07 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 08:05:07 -0700 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1083941876.7165.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1083941067.1880.20.camel@d1ntpm41> <1083941876.7165.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <409BA5A3.7070204@qualcomm.com> David Collantes wrote: > On 5/7/2004 10:44 AM, Will Backman wrote: > >> From http://dovecot.org/ >> "Shared mailboxes aren't yet supported." >> "mbox support isn't yet perfect. For personal use it seems to work quite >> well, but there are a few known problems such as sometimes losing mails >> in Drafts-mailbox" >> >> I'm scared. > > > Cyrus is better. Shared mailboxes, quota, robust. I am going to play > with it a bit more to see if I can get it to work without the need of > having the user on the shadow file (imap user not a unix user). You should be able to do this. I backend Cyrus IMAPd user accounts to an LDAP server using saslauthd, because it makes the management of the accounts easier for me. Before I started using an LDAP backend, I just put the user accounts in the sasldb2 file. From alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it Fri May 7 15:06:42 2004 From: alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it (Alessandro Torrisi) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 17:06:42 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks 4 Peter Klein (Alessandro Torrisi) In-Reply-To: <20040507132532.0000373AB1@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040507153736.B47CA1A147@mail.euronenet.it> I don't know Peter but these lines saved me and solved my problem !!! If you want I can attach the two files !!! I've got the original one and the modified xorg.conf. Infact when I did't know about these modelines, I saw that my X was really running even if I saw a blank screen...probably a problem caused by wrong detected frequencies. And I can add more...I've got an ACER AL708 and sometimes I got a similar problem on the desktop. It's a LCD monitor !!! I read your message: >Thanks, >but I've already read all relevant threads on that list and honestly: I >dont understand why modelines should cause any effect on an LCD?! >Weren't the modelines for CRT only? I thought they provide physical >information (number of real pixels, time for the beam to return to the next >line, etc.), but AFAIK LCDs refreashes all pixels at time?! >Best regards, > Peter And if I read this line: # 1280x800 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 62.62 kHz; pclk: 107.21 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 107.21 1280 1360 1496 1712 800 801 804 835 I see informations about: - Maximum resolution - Maximum frequence - Horizontal Frequence ... I don't understand the problem you write about...because every monitor has its own capabilities and LCD have its own FREQUENCY !!! Every pixel must refresh !!! See this technical card (it is right...excuse me for my poor english) about a LCD 17: ============================================================================ Tipo di monitor LCD (cristalli liquidi) Dimensioni dello schermo (LCD) 17 POLLICI Tipo di tubo o LCD TFT Pixel Pitch 0.264 MM Angolo di visibilit? orizzontale 150 GRADI Angolo di visibiit? verticale 120 GRADI Risoluzione massima (e frequenza) 1280 x 1024 <============== RESOLUTION Frequenza orizzontale 30 ? 81 KHZ <========================= H FREQUENCY Frequenza verticale 56 ? 75 HZ <========================= V FREQUENCY Luminosit? dello schermo 270 CD/MQ Contrasto 450 :1 Banda video 135 MHZ Altoparlanti integrati no On Screen Display (OSD) si Connettore tipo ''monitor'' D-SUB 15 pin, DVI-D Tensione di Alimentazione 230 V a.c. (Europa) Consumo 40 WATT Certificazioni bassa emissione TCO 99 Certificazioni risparmio energetico EPA Energy Star, Nutek Certificazioni di sicurezza e qualit? marcatura CE Dimensioni in cm (LxAxP) 36.82 x 39.43 x 17.7 cm Peso 5 KG Contenuto della confezione Monitor; Cavo VGA; Cavo alimentazione; Manuale ============================================================================ I hope I understood what you wrote...:) Alessandro Torrisi. From chris at menzel.com Fri May 7 15:11:04 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 17:11:04 +0200 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <20040507140446.GA29967@psych> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> <1083937955.2666.7.camel@stage.menzel.com> <20040507140446.GA29967@psych> Message-ID: <1083942664.2666.11.camel@stage.menzel.com> This might be a stupid question, but is it possible to compile the kernel with APM enabled and have things working as before in 2.4.x kernels? -- Christian Menzel From terry1 at beam.ltd.uk Fri May 7 15:16:53 2004 From: terry1 at beam.ltd.uk (Terry Barnaby) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 16:16:53 +0100 Subject: Using DVB interfaces on Fedora 2 test3 In-Reply-To: <409B650D.9040806@beam.ltd.uk> References: <409B650D.9040806@beam.ltd.uk> Message-ID: <409BA865.8090506@beam.ltd.uk> A follow up on this. I have created the /dev/dvb entries using MAKEDEV-DVB.sh from the linuxtv-dvb-1.1.1 sources. I also now note that there is no /usr/include/linux/dvb/*.h files although they exist in the Linux source tree. Terry Terry Barnaby wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed the latest Fedora 2 test3 system, which seems to be > working Ok. > I am trying to set up the the system to use a DVB-T tuner card. > I notice that the kernel (2.6.5-1.327) has the DVB drivers built as > modules Ok. > > My questions: > 1. There do not seem to be any /dev/dvb device entries ? Is this > a Fedora 2 bug, or do I need to create them. > 2. Do I need to put any entries in /etc/modprobe.conf > > Cheers > > Terry > -- Dr Terry Barnaby BEAM Ltd Phone: +44 1454 324512 Northavon Business Center, Dean Rd Fax: +44 1454 313172 Yate, Bristol, BS37 5NH, UK Email: terry at beam.ltd.uk Web: www.beam.ltd.uk BEAM for: Visually Impaired X-Terminals, Parallel Processing, Software "Tandems are twice the fun !" From almacha at altern.org Fri May 7 17:17:16 2004 From: almacha at altern.org (Almacha) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 17:17:16 +0000 Subject: unable to recompile kernel In-Reply-To: <20040506195328.GE25558@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> <20040506195328.GE25558@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083950236.2964.12.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> Strange: I tried to compile offical 2.6.5 kernel from kernel.org under 2.6.5-1.353 and no problem! In looks that it does not crash each time. GCC is certainly right when it says "The bug is not reproducible" Maybe that is exeptional and we can foget it. Le jeu 06/05/2004 ? 19:53, Alan Cox a ?crit : > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 07:16:01PM +0000, Almacha wrote: > > At some time during compilation GCC stops (Segmenation Fault) and tells > > me it certainly comes from a OS or hardware problem. But as my partition > > table is damaged (by Windows XP) it may not happen at all on an other > > Odds on its hardware. Its harder to be sure with a test kernel obviously > but the biggest clue is that make crashes in different places each time > That's right. If I restart comilation it crashes somewhere else. > > but some minutes later it stops again. If I re-enter make again it stops > > again but sonner. etc..., sonner and sonner and at the end I have to > > enter 4 times make to recompile a single file. > > and this smells of cooling issues > From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Fri May 7 15:19:05 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 17:19:05 +0200 Subject: unable to disable selinux In-Reply-To: <409B9ECF.80901@rochester.rr.com> References: <409B9ECF.80901@rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040507171905.683a38cf.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Fri, 07 May 2004 10:35:59 -0400, Rich Ibbotson wrote: > Sorry if this is covered somewhere else, I haven't been able to find the > answer in the archives. > > I've just upgraded from RH8.0 to FC2 test3 and I'm trying to disable > selinux until I get other problems sorted out. I've tried passing > selinux=0 on the kernel line in grub, and I've also tried creating a > file /etc/sysconfig/selinux with the contents SELINUX=disabled. > > Either way, whenever I issue a command like: > rpm -V x11-org > > I see the error message: > /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory > > so I think selinux is enabled. /usr/bin/selinuxenabled exits with a > return value of 1. > > What do I need to do to really disable selinux? I'm running kernel > 2.6.5-1.327. Get rid of of the /selinux directory. From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Fri May 7 15:18:00 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 18:18:00 +0300 Subject: Prelink Error from cron.daily In-Reply-To: <20040507135407.GR30909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1083937968.9025.189.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <20040507135407.GR30909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1083943079.2835.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 16:54, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 09:52:48AM -0400, Bob Chiodini wrote: > > prelink: cxx.c:68: find_cxx_sym: Assertion `n < ndeps' failed. > > Upgrade to prelink-0.3.2-1 in rawhide. > I am using that version and getting that error. So that is not the whole answer. From reader at newsguy.com Fri May 7 15:26:53 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 10:26:53 -0500 Subject: Example up2date `sources' Message-ID: Group, I've fallen way way behind the testing curve ...still on core1 test2. My current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources is way out of date. Can someone post an example relevant for current testing? From ernesto at ornl.gov Fri May 7 15:25:59 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 11:25:59 -0400 Subject: How are folks using the PREEMPT option in the 2.6 kernel? Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A092C@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Are the kernel developers working on the preemptive kernel in 2.6? Initially the preempt patch was heavily advertised as one of the new enhancements for the 2.6 kernel. What is the current status? I am not able to find any information about this. Could someone please summarize the issues and plans for the preempt patch for Fedora? Thanks, Ernesto From linux at bytebot.net Fri May 7 15:35:57 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 01:35:57 +1000 Subject: Example up2date `sources' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083944157.14139.173.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 01:26, Harry Putnam wrote: > Group, > I've fallen way way behind the testing curve ...still on core1 test2. > My current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources is way out of date. You don't need one - up2date is smart enough to do selection nowadays -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ From ebroo at phillips.com Fri May 7 15:38:38 2004 From: ebroo at phillips.com (Edward Brookhouse) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:38:38 -0400 Subject: proc/ksyms Message-ID: Hi all, I am working with 2.6.5-1.327 FC2 Test 3 - and after the install I have a /proc/kcore and /proc/kmsg but no /proc/ksyms I have read that in 2.6 series kernels ksyms was replaced with kallsyms - but I do not seem to have that either. How can I enable ksyms ? Any thoughts appreciated. Edward ebroo at phillips.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ccruden at yahoo.com Fri May 7 15:41:07 2004 From: ccruden at yahoo.com (Craig Cruden) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: How are folks using the PREEMPT option in the 2.6 kernel? In-Reply-To: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A092C@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <20040507154107.74949.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> I noticed that you were involved in this thread so I won't quote from there: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg02467.html I have turned it on to play with.... and although I have been told it "slows" the system, to me -- the user experience (desktop) seems to be slightly better (I have not done timing comparisons -- so it is only an "observation" without reference) It may slow the system, and would be worthless to a server, I do think there is some usefulness for desktop type environments -- sound - mouse. I also read a review of the upcoming fedora core 2 in a "trade magazine" (I am not going to try and find it).... one of there main complaints was the disappointment of it being switched off on the stock kernel (non-developer type installations). I have had no problems with it. --- "Williams Jr, Ernest L." wrote: > Are the kernel developers working on the preemptive > kernel in 2.6? > > Initially the preempt patch was heavily advertised > as one of the new enhancements for > the 2.6 kernel. > > What is the current status? I am not able to find > any information about this. > > Could someone please summarize the issues and plans > for the preempt patch > for Fedora? > > > > Thanks, > Ernesto > > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 7 15:56:05 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Example up2date `sources' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1971.12.29.16.103.1083945365.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Harry Putnam said: > Group, > I've fallen way way behind the testing curve ...still on core1 test2. > My current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources is way out of date. > > Can someone post an example relevant for current testing? Adjust for your Arch as needed: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/up2date-4.3.18-2.i386.rpm That said, you will be much better off doing a fresh install of FC2Test3. -- William Hooper From alan at redhat.com Fri May 7 15:57:32 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:57:32 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <20040507155732.GE20101@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 10:05:44AM -0400, Will Backman wrote: > Just to confirm what I have read: FC2 will NOT include the UW-IMAPD (I > didn't see this in the release notes)??? [Forwarded that point to Ed] With respect to uw-imapd I'm sure it will also migrate to fedora extras (or for now fedora.us) if there are enough people willing to rebuild/test it From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri May 7 16:00:27 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 12:00:27 -0400 Subject: reboot fc2t3 vs clean unmounts Message-ID: <200405071200.27151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings all; I gave my set of fc2t3 disks to a friend, and we are both observing the same problem in rebooting as we finetune our kernels for our machines with new compiles. I think it happens more often when we type reboot to an x terminal than it does without x running, but the symptoms are: Very occasionally the full shutdown will proceed, but the reboot seems to require a tap on the reset key before post restarts. More often, maybe 1 or of 4 or 5 times, it will come up and do an fsck on the / partition, claiming it was unmounted uncleanly, like we had power cycled it. It will go thru the fsck, then drop us to a shell claiming it cannot fix it, and there are often messages about zero time dlinks and such as fsck runs. But when we ctrl-d, that reboot is then 100% normal. memtest86+ has been run for about half a day on my machine, and about 2 days on my friends machine, no errors reported. It appears as if the unmount at reboot time isn't doing a very good god of flushing the buffers to the media first, or at least thats the impression I'm getting. Is this a known characteristic of fc2t3? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From alan at redhat.com Fri May 7 16:05:30 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 12:05:30 -0400 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <1083942664.2666.11.camel@stage.menzel.com> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> <1083937955.2666.7.camel@stage.menzel.com> <20040507140446.GA29967@psych> <1083942664.2666.11.camel@stage.menzel.com> Message-ID: <20040507160530.GH20101@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 05:11:04PM +0200, Christian Menzel wrote: > This might be a stupid question, but is it possible to compile the > kernel with APM enabled and have things working as before in 2.4.x > kernels? Boot with "acpi=off" and try that From kirillov at math.sunysb.edu Fri May 7 16:13:02 2004 From: kirillov at math.sunysb.edu (Alexander Kirillov) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 12:13:02 -0400 Subject: Volume control app shows two mixers? In-Reply-To: <409B0690.5020304@khmer.cc> References: <409B0690.5020304@khmer.cc> Message-ID: <1083946381.32126.20.camel@copiague> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 23:46, Vibol Hou wrote: > I've got a Dell Latitude C400 laptop and the volume mixer shows two tabs: > > Cirrus Logic CS4205 rev3, Silic [Audio Mixer (OSS)] > Intel 82801CA-ICH3 [Alsa Mixer] > > Both appear to be controlling the volumes just fine (Main and PCM) but I > was wondering if this is normal. > > -Vibol > See explanation in this thread: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg03214.html SHould probably be filed as a low severity bug. Sasha From alan at redhat.com Fri May 7 16:13:55 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 12:13:55 -0400 Subject: reboot fc2t3 vs clean unmounts In-Reply-To: <200405071200.27151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200405071200.27151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040507161355.GK20101@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 12:00:27PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > It appears as if the unmount at reboot time isn't doing a very good > god of flushing the buffers to the media first, or at least thats the > impression I'm getting. > > Is this a known characteristic of fc2t3? Its a generic 2.6 bug. The kernel-list is currently having a busy fixing session on the subject. From richibb at rochester.rr.com Fri May 7 16:09:23 2004 From: richibb at rochester.rr.com (Rich Ibbotson) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 12:09:23 -0400 Subject: unable to disable selinux In-Reply-To: <409BA2EB.50008@earthlink.net> References: <409B9ECF.80901@rochester.rr.com> <409BA2EB.50008@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <409BB4B3.3060504@rochester.rr.com> Thanks to everyone for the quick replies. Unfortunately, none of the three helped. 1) Installing the "policy" rpm just gives me more warnings. If selinux is disabled, it shouldn't be checking for /etc/security/selinux/anything right? 2) Upgraded to kernel 2.6.5-1.351 and the behavior is unchanged. 3) Removed the /selinux directory and still no difference. Any other ideas? thanks Rich Gerry Tool wrote: > Rich Ibbotson wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry if this is covered somewhere else, I haven't been able to find >> the answer in the archives. >> >> I've just upgraded from RH8.0 to FC2 test3 and I'm trying to disable >> selinux until I get other problems sorted out. I've tried passing >> selinux=0 on the kernel line in grub, and I've also tried creating a >> file /etc/sysconfig/selinux with the contents SELINUX=disabled. >> >> Either way, whenever I issue a command like: >> rpm -V x11-org >> >> I see the error message: >> /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory >> >> so I think selinux is enabled. /usr/bin/selinuxenabled exits with a >> return value of 1. >> >> What do I need to do to really disable selinux? I'm running kernel >> 2.6.5-1.327. >> >> thanks, >> Rich >> >> > try updating to the latest kernel (2.6.5-1.351 I believe.) > > Gerry > > From kirillov at math.sunysb.edu Fri May 7 16:18:19 2004 From: kirillov at math.sunysb.edu (Alexander Kirillov) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 12:18:19 -0400 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> Message-ID: <1083946698.32126.22.camel@copiague> Same problem here, on Dell Latitude D600, using same scripts. . No, couldn't fix it yet... Sasha On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:38, Jonathan Baron wrote: > I've been trying to get "suspend" to work on a Dell Inspiron > 9100. Any of the sleep states will do, for a start. Here's the > relevant information: > > I can blank the screen using > xset dpms force off > (which I have set on a button now) > > I followed some instructions for getting ACPI to work on the > Inspiron 8500, which were the best I could find for anything > close: > http://ltswww.epfl.ch/~dsanta/resources/dell-i8500-linux > > This almost works. I think that the main reason it doesn't > work is the change in the kernel, not the change from the i8500 > to the i9100. > > Before I did this, Fn-Suspend (function key plus suspend button, > which is on the Esc key) did nothing. After rebooting, it now > does something. It blanks the screen for about 10 sec, and then > the screen comes back. > > Checking /var/log/acpi yields the following. I can tell that > some of this really happened, because I was logged in from > another computer and I got cut off, so eth0 really stopped (but > it came back spontaneously after the 10 sec). > > The script for the i8500 uses apmd, which is supposedly disabled > (but, as I say, it does something). I suspect that there is > another way to enter sleep states, to go into /etc/acpi/actions. > (The links at the bottom of > http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/ seem to have a good > discussion of sleep states and other things.) > > Suggestions? > > ----- > [Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] received event "button/sleep SBTN > 00000080 00000006" > [Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] notifying client 4947[500:500] > [Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] executing action > "/etc/acpi/actions/suspend button/sleep SBTN 00000080 00000006" > [Fri May 7 09:29:43 2004] BEGIN HANDLER MESSAGES > Shutting down interface eth0: [ OK ] > Shutting down loopback interface: [ OK ] > > /dev/hda: > issuing standby command > > /dev/hdc: > issuing standby command > Mounting other filesystems: [ OK ] > No APM support in kernel > [Fri May 7 09:29:48 2004] END HANDLER MESSAGES > [Fri May 7 09:29:48 2004] action exited with status 0 > [Fri May 7 09:29:48 2004] completed event "button/sleep SBTN > 00000080 00000006" > ---- > > -- > Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania > Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron > From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri May 7 16:34:05 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 12:34:05 -0400 Subject: dvd writing stopped working Message-ID: I am using a USB dvd writer. I was able to just plug it in and write when I tried before, this was probably FC2T2. Now it no longer works. Here's what I got: System ----------------------- K3b Version: 0.11.6 KDE Version: 3.2.2-3 Red Hat QT Version: 3.3.2 growisofs ----------------------- Executing 'builtin_dd if=/home/nbecker/FC2-test3-x86_64-DVD/FC2-test3-x86_64-DVD.iso of=/dev/scd0 obs=32k seek=0' /dev/scd0: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1385KBps. 0/4278046720 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? 655360/4278046720 ( 0.0%) @0.1x, remaining 761:27 1277952/4278046720 ( 0.0%) @0.1x, remaining 613:32 5472256/4278046720 ( 0.1%) @0.9x, remaining 182:10 9994240/4278046720 ( 0.2%) @1.0x, remaining 120:59 14548992/4278046720 ( 0.3%) @1.0x, remaining 102:33 19070976/4278046720 ( 0.4%) @1.0x, remaining 89:19 23625728/4278046720 ( 0.6%) @1.0x, remaining 81:02 28147712/4278046720 ( 0.7%) @1.0x, remaining 78:00 32669696/4278046720 ( 0.8%) @1.0x, remaining 73:38 37224448/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @1.0x, remaining 70:15 38109184/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.2x, remaining 76:01 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.3x, remaining 78:51 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 84:13 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 91:23 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 96:46 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 102:08 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 109:19 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 114:41 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 120:04 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 127:14 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 132:36 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 137:59 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 145:09 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 150:32 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 155:54 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 163:04 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 168:27 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 173:49 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 181:00 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 186:22 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 191:45 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 198:55 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 204:17 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 209:40 39419904/4278046720 ( 0.9%) @0.0x, remaining 216:50 :-[ WRITE at LBA=4b30h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=00h]: No space left on device :-( write failed: No space left on device /dev/scd0: flushing cache /dev/scd0: updating RMA /dev/scd0: closing session growisofs comand: ----------------------- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/scd0=/home/nbecker/FC2-test3-x86_64-DVD/FC2-test3-x86_64-DVD.iso -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty From mgordon at matchmail.com Fri May 7 16:42:42 2004 From: mgordon at matchmail.com (Mark Gordon) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 09:42:42 -0700 Subject: resolution low Message-ID: <409BBC82.4010804@matchmail.com> Hi guys, I have an old computer (266) with a Cirrus Logic GD5480 controller video card. I install Fedora Core 2 Test3 and everything run smooth but the video resolution. I?m stock on 640x480. I change in the XF86Config to 1024x768 but nothing change. Please help. Thanks Capsuna -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list From alan at redhat.com Fri May 7 16:47:53 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 12:47:53 -0400 Subject: resolution low In-Reply-To: <409BBC82.4010804@matchmail.com> References: <409BBC82.4010804@matchmail.com> Message-ID: <20040507164753.GB6729@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 09:42:42AM -0700, Mark Gordon wrote: > Hi guys, I have an old computer (266) with a Cirrus Logic GD5480 > controller video card. I install Fedora Core 2 Test3 and everything run > smooth but the video resolution. I?m stock on 640x480. I change in the > XF86Config to 1024x768 but nothing change. Please help. Uncomment the two commented lines giving the frequency range of the monitor and see if that helps From michal at harddata.com Fri May 7 17:01:16 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:01:16 -0600 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1083941876.7165.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu>; from david@bus.ucf.edu on Fri, May 07, 2004 at 10:54:36AM -0400 References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1083941067.1880.20.camel@d1ntpm41> <1083941876.7165.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <20040507110116.A13389@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 10:54:36AM -0400, David Collantes wrote: > > Cyrus is better. Shared mailboxes, quota, robust. Cyrus has a different set of trade-offs. If you have hundreds or thousands mail accounts, you need some things like quota, you have a manpower to maintain all of that, and you can set up a "sealed server" then surely cyrus is your choice. OTOH there are also frequent situations when you need an imap server for rather small number of users, with simple needs and setup, and cyrus there is heavily "overqualified". It looks like that dovecot could fit here if not those scary remarks that it may loose some mails. Dovecot also should be mentioned in notes as a possible, already provided, alternative to imapd-uw without leaving this position solely to cyrus. Michal From josh at vitriolix.com Fri May 7 17:01:45 2004 From: josh at vitriolix.com (Josh Steiner) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 10:01:45 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on Dell Latitude C400 Laptop In-Reply-To: <20040507062210.GK7428@harry.phil-anderson.com> References: <409AD0C2.50208@khmer.cc> <20040507024223.GT14937@nemesis.maddog.net> <20040507062210.GK7428@harry.phil-anderson.com> Message-ID: <409BC0F9.8080005@vitriolix.com> i'm having the same trouble on my dell inspiron 8200. i just went and looked at my xorg.conf and the hsync + vrefresh lines already were commented out. -josh Phil Anderson wrote: >Try to uncomment the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in your >/etc/X11/xorg.conf. > >There are several bugzilla entries about this, and probably 6 or 7 >people who have posted to fedora-test-list about this. Apparently it is >because of a bug in pyxf86config. > >On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:42:23PM -0400, Philip Balister wrote: > > >>Anyway I have the 1400x1050 display and it appears to be in the right mode, >>but the display config only has picks for 640x480 and 800x600. I selected >>Dell 1400x1050 LCD during install. >> >> > > > > > -- ________________________________________________________________ live experimental electronic music -- http://bluevitriol.com independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com From baron at psych.upenn.edu Fri May 7 17:11:56 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:11:56 -0400 Subject: getting external CRT monitor to work on laptop Message-ID: <20040507171156.GA14696@psych> For using a laptop for a presentation, it is convenient to configure it for a generic CRT, usually something like 1280x800. I can't figure out how to do this. I tried, for example, system-config-display Dual head and then I click Use dual head Configure Generic CRT display and the OK button remains dim. I cannot go further. This may be because system-config-display still does not recognize my video card (radeon). But I also cannot type in the space that asks for a video card for the second monitor. This may be a bug in system-config-display. But there may be a way to edito xorg.conf directly. Jon -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From mattdm at mattdm.org Fri May 7 17:35:14 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:35:14 -0400 Subject: Serial Ata Dirver Status In-Reply-To: <20040507093449.M79323@prosap.biz> References: <20040507024621.M86279@prosap.biz> <20040507140106.GA27173@jadzia.bu.edu> <20040507093449.M79323@prosap.biz> Message-ID: <20040507173514.GA2953@jadzia.bu.edu> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 09:34:49AM +0700, anaranjo wrote: > Its for Sis 964 South Bridge http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=Sis+964+South+Bridge+SATA&btnG=Google+Search -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Fri May 7 17:37:09 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 13:37:09 -0400 Subject: resolution low In-Reply-To: <409BBC82.4010804@matchmail.com> References: <409BBC82.4010804@matchmail.com> Message-ID: <1083951429.9025.220.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 12:42, Mark Gordon wrote: > Hi guys, I have an old computer (266) with a Cirrus Logic GD5480 > controller video card. I install Fedora Core 2 Test3 and everything run > smooth but the video resolution. I?m stock on 640x480. I change in the > XF86Config to 1024x768 but nothing change. Please help. > Thanks > Capsuna I saw your postings on the Fedora User's list but did not see anything about forcing the sync rates, other than from Alan Cox below. These are probably not correct for your monitor: (II) CIRRUS(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 28.00-33.00 kHz (II) CIRRUS(0): Monitor0: Using default vrefresh range of 43.00-72.00 Hz Try these in your xorg.conf file: HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0 VertRefresh 48.0 - 120.0 Found googling for a P780 model, to be on the safe side check your monitor manual, incorrect values could cause monitor damage. Bob... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please help. > > > Uncomment the two commented lines giving the frequency range of the monitor > and see if that helps Change that in xorg.conf (XF86Config is used no longer) ;-) Cheers, Hannes. From billg at f-m.fm Fri May 7 18:05:00 2004 From: billg at f-m.fm (billg) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:05:00 -0400 Subject: Hardware Browser Shows @ Mice When Only One Is Connect Message-ID: <1083953100.28604.196049389@webmail.messagingengine.com> When I connect a Microsoft USB Wireless Intellimouse Explorer to FC at -Test3, the Hardware Browser shows two mice: one is the USB device, the other, mythical mouse, is shown as a ps/2 device. The Intellimouse also behave oddly in X. E.g., appears to freeze at random moments, and unfreezes after I jostle it around a bit. I'm using an ordinary ps/2 3-button mouse now and all is well, but I'd prefer to use the Intellimouse. On a related issue, can I make use of the Intellimouse's buttons (all 5 of 'em) without running an external program like imwheel? I've tried imwheel on a Slackware setup and it was flaky, to say the least. Thanks. -- billg From markf78 at yahoo.com Fri May 7 18:18:42 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Volume control app shows two mixers? In-Reply-To: <20040507054951.9933F74357@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040507181842.31203.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> brian wrote: >I'm curious... Do you also have the issue where if you click on the volume >control applet and adjust the volume to something below max, it starts dropping >slowly to a lower volume? i think you're describing this bug: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119501 please add any additional info i might have overlooked. mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Fri May 7 18:22:50 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 20:22:50 +0200 Subject: What about CD 4? Message-ID: <1083954169.5232.3.camel@littlePiet> If this had been discussed before (and I didn't notice) - sorry I installed FC2T1-3 several times with different packages selections. I was never asked to insert CD 4. XFce is located on CD 4, but I didn't found a way to select it for installation in anaconda. At the beginning I'm asked to confirm that I have CD 1-3 ready, CD 4 never got mentioned. Shouldn't this initial message include CD 4 or are the required CD dynamically calculated? Peter From nalin at redhat.com Fri May 7 18:30:54 2004 From: nalin at redhat.com (Nalin Dahyabhai) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 14:30:54 -0400 Subject: Problems with nss_ldap and group membership In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040507183053.GA10978@redhat.com> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 09:58:26AM -0400, Gary Molenkamp wrote: > I'm testing nss_ldap under FC2t3 and have run into a problem with using > groups under nss_ldap. > > In my ldap server I have: > > cn=A,ou=Person,dc=exmaple,dc=com > uidNumber: 130000 > gidNumber: 130000 > > cn=A,ou=Group,dc=exmaple,dc=com > gidNumber: 130000 > > cn=App_users,ou=Group,dc=exmaple,dc=com > gidNumber: 1000 > MemberUID: 130000 > > I have nsswitch.conf, /etc/pam.d/sshd configured to allow logins, etc. > Such that: > getent passwd A > A:x:130000:500::/home/A:/bin/bash > > getent group A > A:x:130000: > > getent group App_user > App_user:x:1000:130000 > > The problem is for file access control based on group membership. ie: > > drxwrxw--- root App_users /tmp/testing/ > > is not searchable by user A. Changing group membership of the directory > to A's primary group works, as does changing ownership of the directory to > A. > > Have I missed something? The "memberUid" attribute of your posixGroup object should include the user's login name (the "uid" attribute from the user's posixAccount object instead of its "uidNumber" attribute). Change "memberUid: 130000" to "memberUid: A", and it should work. HTH, Nalin From fkooman at bromstraat.net Fri May 7 18:36:42 2004 From: fkooman at bromstraat.net (F. Kooman) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 20:36:42 +0200 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> <1083937955.2666.7.camel@stage.menzel.com> <20040507140446.GA29967@psych> Message-ID: <1083955002.3665.8.camel@pluto.bromstraat.net> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 16:09, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > My HP Pavilion ze4430us suspends when i echo 3 into /proc/acpi/sleep, and > everything looks good until i try to turn it back on. Opening the lid does > nothing, and pressing any of the hotkeys or the power key cause it to > begin to power up, and then it just shuts down. [fkooman at pluto fkooman]$ cat /etc/acpi/events/sample.conf # This is a sample ACPID configuration event=button/power.* action=/sbin/shutdown -h now [fkooman at pluto fkooman]$ Maybe that's why your computer shuts down? Gr, Fran?ois -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From markf78 at yahoo.com Fri May 7 18:37:08 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FC2 release schedule Message-ID: <20040507183708.27927.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- is the absolute devel freeze still today? i.e. is http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ current? it seems like the webpage is always a bit delayed so i just wanted to check... thanks, mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Fri May 7 18:45:07 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 20:45:07 +0200 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Fr, den 07.05.2004 schrieb Michal Jaegermann um 08:21: > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:08:53PM -0400, David Collantes wrote: > > Cyrus on FC2 is compiled to use shadow passwords for authentication, so users must > > exist on the system before a mailbox is created with cyradm. > > It differs from > other IMAP server implementations in that it is run on "sealed" > servers, where users are not normally permitted to log in. > > > So what is here really correct? > > Michal I like to ask the same question, as it was still not answered / validated by the other replies: Is the information by David Collantes correct that cyrus-imapd coming with FC2 can only be used with system user account for each mail user? I hardly doubt that because it would be total nonsense to not compile against sasl and to force such a setup. I think it is wrong and that just the default setup uses saslauthd with MECH=shadow, like already on FC1 this is the default setup for Sendmail's and Postfix's STMP AUTH. It would make some sense and the (more experienced) user can decide to use a different authentification mech / method for the mail account users like an LDAP backend or instead of using saslauthd directly requesting a sasldb2. As the upcoming cyrus-imapd package most widely is based on Simon Matter's great packaging (he does a really good job since long time), I assume being sticked to system user accounts is just wrong information. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl Sirendipity 19:59:09 up 10 days, 18:47, load average: 0.43, 0.52, 0.37 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From sopwith at redhat.com Fri May 7 19:00:27 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2 release schedule In-Reply-To: <20040507183708.27927.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040507183708.27927.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 May 2004, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > is the absolute devel freeze still today? > i.e. is http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ current? Yes on both counts! -- Elliot I keep committing atrocities in an attempt to learn from my mistakes. From ademko at shaw.ca Fri May 7 19:36:12 2004 From: ademko at shaw.ca (Aleksander Demko) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:36:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: compiling 32 bit apps under 64bit f2t3 Message-ID: Does it work? when I use -m32 on a dead simple hello world C program, I get: /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status -m64 (the default) 64bit compiles work fine. -- // scopira.org | ninjacoder.com // From masterra at m-ra.net Fri May 7 19:37:43 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 14:37:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <1083955002.3665.8.camel@pluto.bromstraat.net> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> <1083937955.2666.7.camel@stage.menzel.com> <20040507140446.GA29967@psych> <1083955002.3665.8.camel@pluto.bromstraat.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 May 2004, F. Kooman wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 16:09, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > My HP Pavilion ze4430us suspends when i echo 3 into /proc/acpi/sleep, and > > everything looks good until i try to turn it back on. Opening the lid does > > nothing, and pressing any of the hotkeys or the power key cause it to > > begin to power up, and then it just shuts down. > > [fkooman at pluto fkooman]$ cat /etc/acpi/events/sample.conf > # This is a sample ACPID configuration > > event=button/power.* > action=/sbin/shutdown -h now > [fkooman at pluto fkooman]$ > > Maybe that's why your computer shuts down? > > Gr, > Fran?ois Possibly, however I don't think that's it. It doesn't really have time to power back up, it just kinda begins lighting up, then powers off instantly. However, i'll try changing that and giving another shot when i get home today, thanks. Anyone else have an HP Pavilion and wanna give me some hints with anything weird with them? :) ATi Mobility U1, anyone? :) -Quasar From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 7 19:38:57 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 15:38:57 -0400 Subject: VMware 4.5.1 & FC2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1083958737.19716.31.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 15:01, imkow wrote: > Hi, I saw your posts on redhat.com and vmware.com about the vmware > workstation 4.5.1 error: NOT_IMPLEMENTED 602 (7568) when installing > the Fedora Core 2 Test 3, now it can be solved temporarily by adding a > kernel parameter: vdso=0. Enjoy it. Warren Togami provided that hint a few days ago (http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg00317.html) and it has been working for both an FC2 installation upgraded via yum and for a new FC2T3+rawhide install today on FC1 host with vmware-any-any-update65. Trying to run or install FC2 with recent kernels on an FC2T3 host still reboots my host as of the last time I tried it a couple of days ago. Haven't seen any more reports from the Windows host world. Looks like Red Hat may be reconsidering a real fix since I reopened the Bugzilla entry https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121876 after comments by Petr Vandrovec, the vmware-any-any patch creator. Stay tuned... Thanks, Phil From kas11 at tampabay.rr.com Fri May 7 19:50:03 2004 From: kas11 at tampabay.rr.com (Karen Spearel) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 15:50:03 -0400 Subject: FC2 release schedule In-Reply-To: References: <20040507183708.27927.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <409BE86B.4050506@tampabay.rr.com> Elliot Lee wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2004, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > >>is the absolute devel freeze still today? >>i.e. is http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ current? > > > Yes on both counts! > > -- Elliot > I keep committing atrocities in an attempt to learn from my mistakes. > > There may be reasons why this is not a good idea that are beyond my understanding...many things are...but I wonder if it might not be a reasonable idea to start the bittorrent sometime after the ISOs are released to the mirrors but before the official announcement. The idea is, of course, to encourage all us eager beavers out here to use the torrent whenever possible and thereby reduce the load on the mirrors when the ISOs hit. I suppose there are fairness issues here in that some people cannot, for whatever reason, use bittorrent, but if some sizable percentage of people who might otherwise not do so but will when offered sufficient incentive, those forced to wait will at least benefit from the lower mirror load when they do open...and those who do use the torrent will have the advantage of the possibly increased number of participants. To this simple mind, it seems like a win-win situation if such a thing were possible. Of course, this presumes the the folks at Duke can get the ISOs with enough time before the official announcement to make the effort worthwhile. KAS From jakub at redhat.com Fri May 7 20:05:46 2004 From: jakub at redhat.com (Jakub Jelinek) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 16:05:46 -0400 Subject: compiling 32 bit apps under 64bit f2t3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040507200546.GT30909@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 02:36:12PM -0500, Aleksander Demko wrote: > > Does it work? when I use -m32 on a dead simple hello world C > program, I get: > > /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > > -m64 (the default) 64bit compiles work fine. You need to install 32-bit glibc-devel, glibc, libgcc, libstdc++ rpms in addition to 64-bit ones. Jakub From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri May 7 20:14:58 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 16:14:58 -0400 Subject: FC2 release schedule Message-ID: <1083960897.12518.21.camel@binkley> > There may be reasons why this is not a good idea that are beyond my > understanding...many things are...but I wonder if it might not be a > reasonable idea to start the bittorrent sometime after the ISOs are > released to the mirrors but before the official announcement. The > idea > is, of course, to encourage all us eager beavers out here to use the > torrent whenever possible and thereby reduce the load on the mirrors > when the ISOs hit. The counter argument for this - is for those of you with local internal-only mirrors, the bittorrent is a waste of bandwidth. > I suppose there are fairness issues here in that some people cannot, > for > whatever reason, use bittorrent, but if some sizable percentage of > people who might otherwise not do so but will when offered sufficient > incentive, those forced to wait will at least benefit from the lower > mirror load when they do open...and those who do use the torrent will > have the advantage of the possibly increased number of participants. > To > this simple mind, it seems like a win-win situation if such a thing > were > possible. I suggested this and it was fairly strenuously opposed by some folks on the mirror list. I don't understand them either, but oh well. > Of course, this presumes the the folks at Duke can get the ISOs with > enough time before the official announcement to make the effort > worthwhile. We normally get them in plenty of time. I think the torrent links should be at the top of the release announcement, before the mirrors list. -sv From whb at ceimaine.org Fri May 7 20:36:29 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 16:36:29 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards Message-ID: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> Are people still having trouble with PCMCIA network cards not starting on boot? I still have to run "modprobe yenta_socket" and restart pcmcia and networking to get connected. Of course, the install CD was ok with my card as I did an FTP install. Reboot and bummer. I found the above workaround in Bugzilla. -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Fri May 7 20:37:46 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 22:37:46 +0200 Subject: cyberjack cardreader In-Reply-To: <1083960897.12518.21.camel@binkley> References: <1083960897.12518.21.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1083962266.24900.5.camel@bilbo> Hi Folks, I have kernel 2.6.5-1.349 running and try to use my cardreader for online banking again. But it refuses to work now: May 7 22:03:33 my_machine kernel: drivers/usb/serial/cyberjack.c: cyberjack_write - failed submitting write urb, error -19 This was working under kernl 2.4.x. Due to my researches I found out that there are some problems with usb in 2.6.x. Is this an kernel issue? Are there any patches available? Regards, Chris From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri May 7 20:40:40 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 16:40:40 -0400 Subject: dmesg message is confusing me Message-ID: <200405071640.40859.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings; One of the items I've noticed in /var/log/dmesg, is that while I'm supposedly running everything in EXT3 mode, I'm seeing this message in the logs when I boot: date etc EXT2-fs Warning (device hda8) ext2_fill_super: mounting EXT3 filesystem as EXT2 A bit further on, it notes that all the other partitions are being mounted EXT3. A rerun of tune2fs -j /dev/hda8 returns that the journal already exists. Whats the correct way to fix this? I hope its fixable, we're having some local weather and while I was putting something away in another shed, the shop computer was apparently reset and killed by a power bump in that one minute 30 I was gone. That'll be a good use for my spare UPS I guess. Now of course is too late. :( -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From sdhmis at sheratondover.com Fri May 7 20:55:02 2004 From: sdhmis at sheratondover.com (Kenneth Benson) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 16:55:02 -0400 Subject: Compaq Deskpro sound Message-ID: I have a Compaq Deskpro (yes I know its old, but it runs good so far) EN series. It uses an onboard sound chip which is an Ess-1888. The problem is that the es18xx drivers don't see it so I have no sound. Is this a known problem or can someone make an suggestions? Compaq Deskpro DPENM-P400 with 256MB ram, 40GB drive and up2dated to this morning with kernel 351. ------------------------------------------- it could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native american criminal class except congress. - mark twain "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Fri May 7 21:18:50 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 22:18:50 +0100 Subject: dmesg message is confusing me In-Reply-To: <200405071640.40859.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200405071640.40859.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040507211850.GA12565@nsk.no-ip.org> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 04:40:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > One of the items I've noticed in /var/log/dmesg, is that while I'm > supposedly running everything in EXT3 mode, I'm seeing this message > in the logs when I boot: > > date etc EXT2-fs Warning (device hda8) ext2_fill_super: mounting EXT3 > filesystem as EXT2 > > A bit further on, it notes that all the other partitions are being > mounted EXT3. > > A rerun of tune2fs -j /dev/hda8 returns that the journal already > exists. > > Whats the correct way to fix this? I hope its fixable, we're having > some local weather and while I was putting something away in another > shed, the shop computer was apparently reset and killed by a power > bump in that one minute 30 I was gone. That'll be a good use for my > spare UPS I guess. Now of course is too late. :( The stock Fedora kernel doesn't have ext3 support builtin, but as a module (the same for several others filesystems and drivers). For the systems that need support for fs or drivers compiled as modules on bootup, the mkinitrd tries to find the necessary modules and creates an initrd that loads those modules. It could be that you removed the initrd configuration in grub.conf or that the initrd wasn't created properly. Regards, Luciano Rocha From fedora at andrewfarris.com Fri May 7 21:19:18 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:19:18 -0700 Subject: unable to recompile kernel In-Reply-To: <1083919445.2973.21.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> References: <1083870961.5908.9.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> <1083874901.11554.1.camel@CirithUngol> <1083919445.2973.21.camel@leopard.animala.almacha> Message-ID: <1083964757.18966.2.camel@CirithUngol> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 08:44 +0000, Almacha wrote: > Sorry, but what do you mean by "load of compliation"? Alan Cox expressed what I was thinking much better when he said 'cooling problems'. What I meant was that during a compile the system can be under extreme loads, high cpu utilization... -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From josh at vitriolix.com Fri May 7 21:43:04 2004 From: josh at vitriolix.com (Josh Steiner) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:43:04 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on Dell Latitude C400 Laptop In-Reply-To: <409BC0F9.8080005@vitriolix.com> References: <409AD0C2.50208@khmer.cc> <20040507024223.GT14937@nemesis.maddog.net> <20040507062210.GK7428@harry.phil-anderson.com> <409BC0F9.8080005@vitriolix.com> Message-ID: <409C02E8.9000601@vitriolix.com> i found a bug in bugzilla with the same problem: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122770 Josh Steiner wrote: > i'm having the same trouble on my dell inspiron 8200. i just went and > looked at my xorg.conf and the hsync + vrefresh lines already were > commented out. > > -josh > > Phil Anderson wrote: > >> Try to uncomment the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in your >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf. >> >> There are several bugzilla entries about this, and probably 6 or 7 >> people who have posted to fedora-test-list about this. Apparently it is >> because of a bug in pyxf86config. >> >> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:42:23PM -0400, Philip Balister wrote: >> >> >>> Anyway I have the 1400x1050 display and it appears to be in the >>> right mode, >>> but the display config only has picks for 640x480 and 800x600. I >>> selected >>> Dell 1400x1050 LCD during install. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- ________________________________________________________________ live experimental electronic music -- http://bluevitriol.com independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com From mgordon at matchmail.com Fri May 7 22:26:49 2004 From: mgordon at matchmail.com (Mark Gordon) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 15:26:49 -0700 Subject: resolution low In-Reply-To: <1083951429.9025.220.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <409BBC82.4010804@matchmail.com> <1083951429.9025.220.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <409C0D29.1080401@matchmail.com> Bob Chiodini wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 12:42, Mark Gordon wrote: > >>Hi guys, I have an old computer (266) with a Cirrus Logic GD5480 >>controller video card. I install Fedora Core 2 Test3 and everything run >>smooth but the video resolution. I?m stock on 640x480. I change in the >>XF86Config to 1024x768 but nothing change. Please help. >> Thanks >> Capsuna > > > I saw your postings on the Fedora User's list but did not see anything > about forcing the sync rates, other than from Alan Cox below. These are > probably not correct for your monitor: > > (II) CIRRUS(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 28.00-33.00 kHz > (II) CIRRUS(0): Monitor0: Using default vrefresh range of 43.00-72.00 Hz > > Try these in your xorg.conf file: > > HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0 > VertRefresh 48.0 - 120.0 > > Found googling for a P780 model, to be on the safe side check your > monitor manual, incorrect values could cause monitor damage. > > > > Bob... > That work Thanks Capsuna From alexl at stofanet.dk Fri May 7 22:34:22 2004 From: alexl at stofanet.dk (Alex Thomsen Leth) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 00:34:22 +0200 Subject: mplayer prelink Message-ID: <1083969262.19926.2.camel@simba.lion> i found this on the mplayer faq: Q: Why doesn't MPlayer work on Fedora Core? A: There is a bad interaction on Fedora between exec-shield, prelink, and any applications which use Windows DLLs (such as MPlayer). The problem is that exec-shield randomizes the load addresses of all the system libraries. This randomization happens at prelink time (once every two weeks). When MPlayer tries to load a Windows DLL it wants to put it at a specific address (0x400000). If an important system library happens to be there already, MPlayer will crash. (A typical symptom would be a segmentation fault when trying to play Windows Media 9 files.) If you run into this problem you have two options: * Wait two weeks. It might start working again. * Relink all the binaries on the system with different prelink options. Here are step by step instructions: 1. Edit /etc/syconfig/prelink and change PRELINK_OPTS=-mR to PRELINK_OPTS="-mR --no-exec-shield" 2. touch /var/lib/misc/prelink.force 3. /etc/cron.daily/prelink (This relinks all the applications, and it takes quite a while.) 4. execstack -s /path/to/mplayer (This turns off exec-shield for the MPlayer binary.) why isnt these settings made by default. mplayer does'nt work well without these settings Alex Thomsen Leth From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Fri May 7 23:07:09 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 18:07:09 -0500 Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards In-Reply-To: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <1083971228.8459.2.camel@mercury> Yep. I have to modprobe yenta_socket and restart pcmcia everytime I boot to get my pcmcia card recognized. Timothy On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 15:36, Will Backman wrote: > Are people still having trouble with PCMCIA network cards not starting > on boot? I still have to run "modprobe yenta_socket" and restart pcmcia > and networking to get connected. > > Of course, the install CD was ok with my card as I did an FTP install. > Reboot and bummer. > > I found the above workaround in Bugzilla. > > -- > Will Backman > Coastal Enterprises, Inc. > From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Fri May 7 23:10:50 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 18:10:50 -0500 Subject: mplayer prelink In-Reply-To: <1083969262.19926.2.camel@simba.lion> References: <1083969262.19926.2.camel@simba.lion> Message-ID: <1083971450.8459.6.camel@mercury> Mplayer works for me. I have these rpm's installed: mplayer-1.0pre3-1.i386.rpm mplayer-codecs-extralite-1.0-1.i386.rpm mplayer-common-1.0pre3-1.i386.rpm mplayer-gui-1.0pre3-1.i386.rpm mplayerplug-in-2.60-fc1.i386.rpm mplayer-skin-default-1.0-2.noarch.rpm lame-3.93.1-3.fr.i386.rpm Timothy On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 17:34, Alex Thomsen Leth wrote: > i found this on the mplayer faq: > > Q: > > Why doesn't MPlayer work on Fedora Core? > > A: > > There is a bad interaction on Fedora between exec-shield, prelink, and > any applications which use Windows DLLs (such as MPlayer). > > The problem is that exec-shield randomizes the load addresses of all the > system libraries. This randomization happens at prelink time (once every > two weeks). > > When MPlayer tries to load a Windows DLL it wants to put it at a > specific address (0x400000). If an important system library happens to > be there already, MPlayer will crash. (A typical symptom would be a > segmentation fault when trying to play Windows Media 9 files.) > > If you run into this problem you have two options: > > * Wait two weeks. It might start working again. > > * Relink all the binaries on the system with different prelink > options. Here are step by step instructions: > > 1. Edit /etc/syconfig/prelink and change > > PRELINK_OPTS=-mR > > to > > PRELINK_OPTS="-mR --no-exec-shield" > > 2. touch /var/lib/misc/prelink.force > > 3. /etc/cron.daily/prelink (This relinks all the > applications, and it takes quite a while.) > > 4. execstack -s /path/to/mplayer (This turns off > exec-shield for the MPlayer binary.) > > > > > why isnt these settings made by default. mplayer does'nt work well > without these settings > > Alex Thomsen Leth > From gillb4 at telusplanet.net Fri May 7 23:30:34 2004 From: gillb4 at telusplanet.net (Bob Gill) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 17:30:34 -0600 Subject: Using DVB interfaces on Fedora 2 test3 In-Reply-To: <409B650D.9040806@beam.ltd.uk> References: <409B650D.9040806@beam.ltd.uk> Message-ID: <1083972634.4734.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi. I don't know (exactly) how different DVB-T is from a standard TV tuner card, but (with a standard TV tuner card), I had to put entries into modules.conf, and also /etc/rc.d/rc.local (well actually a startup script that I initiate from rc.local) where I load modules (for me, bttv, v4l, tvaudio and a few other modules specific to my card). As for my card, I can see that it's detected by running cat /proc/devices | grep video (which show video4linux), and video is covered by /dev/video0. I suspect it would be the same for your tuner (but my suspicion isn't a certainty because I don't have a DVB-T card). On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 04:29, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed the latest Fedora 2 test3 system, which seems to be > working Ok. > I am trying to set up the the system to use a DVB-T tuner card. > I notice that the kernel (2.6.5-1.327) has the DVB drivers built as > modules Ok. > > My questions: > 1. There do not seem to be any /dev/dvb device entries ? Is this > a Fedora 2 bug, or do I need to create them. > 2. Do I need to put any entries in /etc/modprobe.conf > > Cheers > > Terry > > -- > Dr Terry Barnaby BEAM Ltd > Phone: +44 1454 324512 Northavon Business Center, Dean Rd > Fax: +44 1454 313172 Yate, Bristol, BS37 5NH, UK > Email: terry at beam.ltd.uk Web: www.beam.ltd.uk > BEAM for: Visually Impaired X-Terminals, Parallel Processing, Software > "Tandems are twice the fun !" > From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 7 23:38:45 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 19:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards In-Reply-To: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <64590.65.40.71.237.1083973125.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Will Backman said: > Are people still having trouble with PCMCIA network cards not starting > on boot? I still have to run "modprobe yenta_socket" and restart pcmcia > and networking to get connected. It's working fine for me without manually loading any modules. I've got a Latitude CPx and a Lucent Orinoco Gold. -- William Hooper From baron at psych.upenn.edu Fri May 7 23:44:16 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 19:44:16 -0400 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> Message-ID: <20040507234416.GB15531@psych> I have found one reason why acpi might not work. I have a smp kernel, and it produces an error message when loading: "S3 and PAE do not like each other". I looked up PAE and it seems to be something for handling huge amounts of memory. Given that I have only 1 GB, I might not need it. Does anyone know how to turn it off? I think there is something to add to the "kernel ..." line in grub.conf, but I can't find out what the options are for that. Jon -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From gillb4 at telusplanet.net Fri May 7 23:50:14 2004 From: gillb4 at telusplanet.net (Bob Gill) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 17:50:14 -0600 Subject: startup applications and rhgb Message-ID: <1083973814.4734.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi. I have one bug and one question. The bug is with rhgb (the RedHat graphical boot) in /boot/grub/grub.conf. I found that with certain kernels (and I don't know exactly it works with some and not others), it kills the boot process at the login prompt (and actually kills the box) while using nvidia (binary) drivers. I have tested with a few kernels where the system stalls/dies at the graphical login when using rhgb, but is successful after removing it (no graphical boot, but no system crash either). In all cases, the graphical boot process is successful. I suspect the problem may be related to switching from the graphical boot window to the login prompt window (restarting X). As Nvidia binaries are not standard issue, it might not be a bug so much as a warning to other people wanting to use these drives.... The (unrelated to the above) question I have is: where (in FC2) is there a place where I can run an application at GNOME startup? In FC1 (and RedHat9) there was a place where you could run GNOME/gui startup apps. I am tempted to use (from the GConf editor) desktop/accessibility/startup, but surely there must be a better place to run my application. Thanks, Bob From feliciano.matias at free.fr Fri May 7 23:48:20 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 01:48:20 +0200 Subject: mplayer prelink In-Reply-To: <1083969262.19926.2.camel@simba.lion> References: <1083969262.19926.2.camel@simba.lion> Message-ID: <1083973700.3902.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 08/05/2004 ? 00:34, Alex Thomsen Leth a ?crit : > i found this on the mplayer faq: > > Q: > > Why doesn't MPlayer work on Fedora Core? > > A: > > There is a bad interaction on Fedora between exec-shield, prelink, and > any applications which use Windows DLLs (such as MPlayer). > > The problem is that exec-shield randomizes the load addresses of all the > system libraries. This randomization happens at prelink time (once every > two weeks). > > When MPlayer tries to load a Windows DLL it wants to put it at a > specific address (0x400000). If an important system library happens to > be there already, MPlayer will crash. (A typical symptom would be a > segmentation fault when trying to play Windows Media 9 files.) > > If you run into this problem you have two options: > > * Wait two weeks. It might start working again. > > * Relink all the binaries on the system with different prelink > options. Here are step by step instructions: > > 1. Edit /etc/syconfig/prelink and change > > PRELINK_OPTS=-mR > > to > > PRELINK_OPTS="-mR --no-exec-shield" > > 2. touch /var/lib/misc/prelink.force > > 3. /etc/cron.daily/prelink (This relinks all the > applications, and it takes quite a while.) > > 4. execstack -s /path/to/mplayer (This turns off > exec-shield for the MPlayer binary.) > > > > > why isnt these settings made by default. mplayer does'nt work well > without these settings > No trouble here. execstack --query /usr/bin/mplayer X /usr/bin/mplayer > Alex Thomsen Leth > From feliciano.matias at free.fr Fri May 7 23:56:11 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 01:56:11 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm [Failed] Message-ID: <1083974171.3902.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> $ rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm [...] + /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatiassmp/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.40344 (%install) $ objdump -x /var/tmp/kernel-2.6.5-1.354.fmatias-root/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf | grep ORIGIN RPATH $ORIGIN Any thought ? The same failure append at least with 2.6.5-1.351. From janina at rednote.net Sat May 8 00:30:46 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 20:30:46 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 Telnet Install Failing Message-ID: <20040508003046.GB3104@rednote.net> I'm attempting a fresh install of FC2T3 booting from a CD ROM burned from the FC2T3 boot.iso file. At the boot> prompt I supply: text telnet ip=192.168.77.2 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.77.1 The system boots and receives the assigned IP address--I can ping it OK. But attempts to telnet are denied. PS: I cant do "text telnet" as there's no dhcp server available in this location. From deji_aking at yahoo.ca Sat May 8 00:42:47 2004 From: deji_aking at yahoo.ca (Deji Akingunola) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 20:42:47 -0400 Subject: startup applications and rhgb In-Reply-To: <1083973814.4734.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083973814.4734.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083976871.2987.7.camel@rhema> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 19:50, Bob Gill wrote: > The (unrelated to the above) question I have is: where (in FC2) is > there a place where I can run an application at GNOME startup? In FC1 > (and RedHat9) there was a place where you could run GNOME/gui startup > apps. I am tempted to use (from the GConf editor) > desktop/accessibility/startup, but surely there must be a better place > to run my application. > Thanks, > Bob > I believe 'gnome-session-properties' is what you are looking for. It has a tab called 'Startup Program' where you can add such apps you want to run at GNOME startup. I'm not sure why gnome-session-properties is not in the Preferences sub-menu anymore, i think it use to be there before. Anyway you can always run it from the command-line. Deji From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sat May 8 00:59:07 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 20:59:07 -0400 Subject: Test install w/LVM total disaster Message-ID: I decided to try installing from rawhide (5/7/04). I selected a Raid-0 configuration using LVM on a pair of disks. Installation aborted! I hope this is not the version that would be released. It is totally broken. Anaconda aborted. Something about setting up physical volumes. I went back and reinstalled FC2T2. No abort. Same setup. From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Sat May 8 01:08:02 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 20:08:02 -0500 Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards In-Reply-To: <64590.65.40.71.237.1083973125.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> <64590.65.40.71.237.1083973125.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <1083978482.8459.8.camel@mercury> I have a winbook x4 with the sis chipset and a Cisco 350. Timothy On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 18:38, William Hooper wrote: > Will Backman said: > > Are people still having trouble with PCMCIA network cards not starting > > on boot? I still have to run "modprobe yenta_socket" and restart pcmcia > > and networking to get connected. > > It's working fine for me without manually loading any modules. I've got a > Latitude CPx and a Lucent Orinoco Gold. > > -- > William Hooper > From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Sat May 8 01:10:26 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 20:10:26 -0500 Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards In-Reply-To: <1083978482.8459.8.camel@mercury> References: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> <64590.65.40.71.237.1083973125.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <1083978482.8459.8.camel@mercury> Message-ID: <1083978626.8459.11.camel@mercury> I also have it running on 2 dual amd's and single processor amd all running fc2-t3. Timothy On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 20:08, Timothy Sandel wrote: > I have a winbook x4 with the sis chipset and a Cisco 350. > > Timothy > > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 18:38, William Hooper wrote: > > Will Backman said: > > > Are people still having trouble with PCMCIA network cards not starting > > > on boot? I still have to run "modprobe yenta_socket" and restart pcmcia > > > and networking to get connected. > > > > It's working fine for me without manually loading any modules. I've got a > > Latitude CPx and a Lucent Orinoco Gold. > > > > -- > > William Hooper > > > From vibol at khmer.cc Sat May 8 01:12:10 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 18:12:10 -0700 Subject: Volume control applet doesn't change when muted? Message-ID: <409C33EA.40607@khmer.cc> Curious, but is the volume control applet in gnome supposed to get crossed out if it's muted? Right now, the icon is no different whether it's muted or unmuted. The small waves don't even go away to show that the speaker is off/muted. -Vibol From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat May 8 01:20:23 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 20:20:23 -0500 Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards In-Reply-To: <64590.65.40.71.237.1083973125.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> <64590.65.40.71.237.1083973125.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <200405072020.24067.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Friday 07 May 2004 18:38, William Hooper wrote: > Will Backman said: > > Are people still having trouble with PCMCIA network cards not starting > > on boot? I still have to run "modprobe yenta_socket" and restart pcmcia > > and networking to get connected. > > It's working fine for me without manually loading any modules. I've got a > Latitude CPx and a Lucent Orinoco Gold. > > -- > William Hooper I have a Latitude CPx 750 and it does not auto start either. Byte From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat May 8 01:21:26 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 20:21:26 -0500 Subject: Compaq Deskpro sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405072021.26665.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Friday 07 May 2004 15:55, Kenneth Benson wrote: > I have a Compaq Deskpro (yes I know its old, but it runs good so far) EN > series. It uses an onboard sound chip which is an Ess-1888. The problem is > that the es18xx drivers don't see it so I have no sound. Is this a known > problem or can someone make an suggestions? > > Compaq Deskpro DPENM-P400 with 256MB ram, 40GB drive and up2dated to this > morning with kernel 351. > Did the sound work before? Is the sound turned on in BIOS? Byte From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat May 8 01:42:01 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 21:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards In-Reply-To: <200405072020.24067.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> <64590.65.40.71.237.1083973125.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <200405072020.24067.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <65332.65.40.71.237.1083980521.squirrel@65.40.71.237> ByteEnable said: >> It's working fine for me without manually loading any modules. I've got >> a >> Latitude CPx and a Lucent Orinoco Gold. >> >> -- >> William Hooper > > I have a Latitude CPx 750 and it does not auto start either. > > Byte Interesting. What cards are you trying to use? -- William Hooper From josh at vitriolix.com Sat May 8 01:45:23 2004 From: josh at vitriolix.com (Josh Steiner) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 18:45:23 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards In-Reply-To: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <409C3BB3.1080107@vitriolix.com> how do i restart pcmcia? i'm getting simlar troubles with my dell inspiron 8200 laptop + orinoco gold pcmcia card. Will Backman wrote: >Are people still having trouble with PCMCIA network cards not starting >on boot? I still have to run "modprobe yenta_socket" and restart pcmcia >and networking to get connected. > >Of course, the install CD was ok with my card as I did an FTP install. >Reboot and bummer. > >I found the above workaround in Bugzilla. > > > -- ________________________________________________________________ live experimental electronic music -- http://bluevitriol.com independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat May 8 02:14:06 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 21:14:06 -0500 Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards In-Reply-To: <65332.65.40.71.237.1083980521.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> <200405072020.24067.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <65332.65.40.71.237.1083980521.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <200405072114.06051.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Friday 07 May 2004 20:42, William Hooper wrote: > ByteEnable said: > >> It's working fine for me without manually loading any modules. I've got > >> a > >> Latitude CPx and a Lucent Orinoco Gold. > >> > >> -- > >> William Hooper > > > > I have a Latitude CPx 750 and it does not auto start either. > > > > Byte > > Interesting. What cards are you trying to use? NetGear PCMCIA Mobile Adapter Model FA411 Byte From barryn at pobox.com Sat May 8 02:25:41 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 19:25:41 -0700 Subject: mplayer prelink In-Reply-To: <1083969262.19926.2.camel@simba.lion> References: <1083969262.19926.2.camel@simba.lion> Message-ID: <20040508022541.GA22151@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 12:34:22AM +0200, Alex Thomsen Leth wrote: > why isnt these settings made by default. mplayer does'nt work well > without these settings Because the rest of the system is more secure with the current default settings, and mplayer is not part of Fedora Core. -Barry K. Nathan From michael at endbracket.net Sat May 8 02:34:41 2004 From: michael at endbracket.net (Michael Wardle) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 12:34:41 +1000 Subject: Volume control applet doesn't change when muted? In-Reply-To: <409C33EA.40607@khmer.cc> References: <409C33EA.40607@khmer.cc> Message-ID: <1083983680.2611.5.camel@pepper.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 11:12, Vibol Hou wrote: > Curious, but is the volume control applet in gnome supposed to get > crossed out if it's muted? Right now, the icon is no different whether > it's muted or unmuted. The small waves don't even go away to show that > the speaker is off/muted. The icon shows the state of only the master volume. Do you describe the master volume being muted, or one of the channels (PCM, Line-in, CD, etc.)? For me the icon has a red slash across it when the master volume is muted and the number of waves varies depending on the master volume as expected. > rpm -qf /usr/libexec/mixer_applet2 gnome-applets-2.6.0-4 -- Mike From josh at vitriolix.com Sat May 8 02:44:04 2004 From: josh at vitriolix.com (Josh Steiner) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 19:44:04 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 PCMCIA network cards In-Reply-To: <409C3BB3.1080107@vitriolix.com> References: <1083962189.1880.49.camel@d1ntpm41> <409C3BB3.1080107@vitriolix.com> Message-ID: <409C4974.3050601@vitriolix.com> sorry, figured it out. yeah, this same procedure works for me... anyone know a permanent fix? thanks for all the info -josh Josh Steiner wrote: > how do i restart pcmcia? i'm getting simlar troubles with my dell > inspiron 8200 laptop + orinoco gold pcmcia card. > > Will Backman wrote: > >> Are people still having trouble with PCMCIA network cards not starting >> on boot? I still have to run "modprobe yenta_socket" and restart pcmcia >> and networking to get connected. >> >> Of course, the install CD was ok with my card as I did an FTP >> install. Reboot and bummer. >> >> I found the above workaround in Bugzilla. >> >> >> > > -- ________________________________________________________________ live experimental electronic music -- http://bluevitriol.com independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com From ml at mutox.org Sat May 8 03:37:54 2004 From: ml at mutox.org (Dan) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 13:37:54 +1000 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <409B0EA4.2010303@flarn.com> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <409B0EA4.2010303@flarn.com> Message-ID: <1083987457.11439.92.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 14:20, Ken Snider wrote: > Anyone have any information (anecdotal or otherwise) on the performance of > cyrus versus UW-IMAPd on really big mailboxes (more than 1 gig/30k > messages)? Or is this exclusively a function of mailbox format? I wondered this myself, as one of the main reasons i switched to cyrus-imap was the woeful performance of uw-imap. On UW-imap, mailboxes only 10meg in size took "a while" to open. Far longer than they should. On Cyrus, there was no noticeable delay between clicking on the message, and the message loading in the preview pane. To _really_ test it out, i set up a small usenet feed (1 binary group) and delivered it to cyrus using fetchnews. Over the space of a few days, the group reached over 7gig in size, and performance was still really outstanding (ie far better than uw-imap with its 10meg mailboxes) Note I was only testing with a single user on both UW and Cyrus, on a 1.7GHz P4/512MB Ram/80GIG WD HDD, but everything in cyrus outshined UW. Is anyone else using Evolution/Pine + GSSAPI + Cyrus? How much does that rock :) From csm at moongroup.com Sat May 8 03:48:42 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 23:48:42 -0400 Subject: more info on the x86_64 nautilus crash Message-ID: <409C589A.4070805@moongroup.com> I installed the debuginfo packages so I could get a good backtrace (thanx Warren). I then created a brand new user and logged into gnome. Same old result... Nautilus went ka-runch! But this time I captured the output from bug-buddy into a file and am sending it to the list. it appears that bugzilla is down tonight so I wanted to get it sent somewhere before I have ot leave for Boston. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: nautilus-crash.bug URL: From yusufg at outblaze.com Sat May 8 05:30:07 2004 From: yusufg at outblaze.com (Yusuf Goolamabbas) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 13:30:07 +0800 Subject: wget fails on files >2GB. Patch by Alvaro Ortega Message-ID: <20040508053007.GA6928@outblaze.com> I was testing the Cherokee webserver on fc2test3 and found that wget doesn't support downloading of files greater than 2GB. This was originally reported to me by Ali Ebrahim The author of Cherokee has a patch to wget http://www.alobbs.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=380&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 More info on Cherokee is here http://www.alobbs.com/cherokee From brott at redh.com Sat May 8 05:38:58 2004 From: brott at redh.com (Doug Brott) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 22:38:58 -0700 Subject: Rehash of slow Network (Re: ipv6) Message-ID: <409C7272.70905@redh.com> Sorry to rehash and old issue, but as more people delve into this FC2 thing, I thought it might be worth noting ... If you are experiencing SLOW network access, it could be due to the fact that you are running IPv6. An easy way to disable this is to modify /etc/modprobe.conf to include the following line: alias net-pf-10 off You will need to reboot, but it solved the problem for me. I have Comcast cable Internet, and prior to upgrade, I was seeing > 3Mb/s download rates. After the upgrade, I was seeing around 1.2Mb/s download rates. Obviously, this was unacceptable. I dug a little deeper and found earlier problems with IPv6. Turns out IPv6 was enabled in my configuration and the added line to the modprobe.conf file fixed my network speed issues. I'm not sure what this really means Re: IPv4 vs IPv6. However, by disabling IPv6, I was able to get back to what I expected to be the true bandwidth. Hopefully this note will help othere who may experience the same problems. Regards. -- Doug Brott From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 8 06:03:24 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 02:03:24 -0400 Subject: startup applications and rhgb In-Reply-To: <1083973814.4734.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083973814.4734.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405080203.24266.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 07 May 2004 19:50, Bob Gill wrote: >Hi. I have one bug and one question. The bug is with rhgb (the > RedHat graphical boot) in /boot/grub/grub.conf. I found that with > certain kernels (and I don't know exactly it works with some and > not others), it kills the boot process at the login prompt (and > actually kills the box) while using nvidia (binary) drivers. I > have tested with a few kernels where the system stalls/dies at the > graphical login when using rhgb, but is successful after removing > it (no graphical boot, but no system crash either). In all cases, > the graphical boot process is successful. I suspect the problem > may be related to switching from the graphical boot window to the > login prompt window (restarting X). As Nvidia binaries are not > standard issue, it might not be a bug so much as a warning to other > people wanting to use these drives.... > The (unrelated to the above) question I have is: where (in FC2) is >there a place where I can run an application at GNOME startup? In > FC1 (and RedHat9) there was a place where you could run GNOME/gui > startup apps. I am tempted to use (from the GConf editor) >desktop/accessibility/startup, but surely there must be a better > place to run my application. >Thanks, >Bob I find that background apps, such as setiathome, heyu and a few others are best run from /etc/rc.d/rc.local. But you have no gfx available at that point so launchng a gui app does mke a lot of sense there. I'd imagine there is a similar file one could edit in the X startup, but I have NDI which it might be. Thats a question for X experts. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From netdemonz at yahoo.com Sat May 8 06:30:13 2004 From: netdemonz at yahoo.com (Brian Bober) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 23:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Unable to complie IT8212F ATA133 drivers In-Reply-To: <200405071312.06919.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <20040508063013.60171.qmail@web90101.mail.scd.yahoo.com> I used the one for the 2.6 kernel. Someone sent me an email saying it doesn't build with the new kernels, and I followed the directions here: http://www.passys.nl/tips/ite_kernel_image_compile.txt This worked except the computer froze when I ran modprobe on the module, then unforze, then froze again. /var/log/messages showed: May 7 23:57:06 localhost kernel: scsi2 : ITE RAIDExpress133 May 7 23:57:06 localhost kernel: Vendor: ITE Model: IT8212F Rev: 1.3 May 7 23:57:06 localhost kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 May 7 23:57:06 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 234441648 512-byte hdwr sectors (120034 MB) May 7 23:57:06 localhost kernel: sda: asking for cache data failed May 7 23:57:06 localhost kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through May 7 23:57:16 localhost scsi.agent[3079]: Attribute /sys/devices/platform/host2/2:0:1:0/type does not exist May 7 23:57:19 localhost kernel: sda:<6> hdb: hdb4 May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: Found Controller: IT8212 UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: IssueIdentify: Resetting channel. May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: IssueIdentify (IDE): Disk[0] not ready. Status=0x20 May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: Device 0 is not present May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: IssueIdentify: Resetting channel. May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: IssueIdentify (IDE): Disk[1] not ready. Status=0x30 May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: Device 1 is not present May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: Channel[0] BM-DMA at 0xBC00-0xBC07 May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: IssueIdentify: Resetting channel. May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: IssueIdentify (IDE): Disk[0] not ready. Status=0x20 May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: Device 2 is not present May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: IssueIdentify: Resetting channel. May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: IssueIdentify (IDE): Disk[1] not ready. Status=0x30 May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: Device 3 is not present May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: Channel[1] BM-DMA at 0xBC08-0xBC0F May 8 00:35:26 localhost kernel: scsi2 : ITE RAIDExpress133 --- Markku Kolkka wrote: > Brian Bober kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika perjantai, 7. > toukokuuta 2004 06:24): > > I'm trying to compile the IT8212F ATA133 drivers > > (LinuxSrc_it8212_092005-05.zip) from > > http://www.ite.com.tw//productInfo/Download.html > > That version is for 2.4 kernels only, the driver with 2.6.x > support is further down the download page. > > -- > Markku Kolkka > markku.kolkka at iki.fi > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From michael at endbracket.net Sat May 8 06:49:52 2004 From: michael at endbracket.net (Michael Wardle) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 16:49:52 +1000 Subject: enabling multiple apps to access the sound card simultaneously Message-ID: <1083998991.2611.24.camel@pepper.localdomain> Hi All After upgrading to Fedora 2 Test 3 from Fedora 1, my sound output is somewhat choppy and distorted, but my biggest problem is that sound is not being multiplexed properly, so only one application can simultanously use the sound card. I typically run applications such as Rhythmbox and Gaim under the GNOME Desktop. When Rhythmbox finishes playing a song, many queued Gaim sounds are spewed out at once. Rhythmbox then fails to reopen the sound card to play the next song in the playlist. Other applications that will play sound but only when they have exclusive access include Totem and aplay. When I attempt to test GNOME event sounds (which I ordinarily have disabled) in the GNOME Sound Preferences control panel, I hear no sound. Gaim is configured to use the Automatic detection method (however I've tried both ESD and Command: "aplay %s" methods), GStreamer is configured to use the ALSA output sink. GNOME is configured to start the sound server (esd) at start up. GNOME Volume Control shows two pages, the first titled "Realtek ALC650 rev 3 [Audio Mixer (OSS)]", the second titled "NVidia nForce2 [Alsa Mixer]". I am using an nForce 2 mainboard with an nVidia nForce 2 APU/Realtek ALC 650 which uses the Intel 8x0 ALSA driver. The relevant channels appear to have a moderate volume after having to manually set them (particularly PCM is unmuted). >From time to time, I see the following message in syslog, despite only having only one sound card (the onboard nForce 2), which I believe means I should only have sound-slot-0 and snd-card-0. The timing does not appear to coincide with occasions where multiple applications are attempting simultaneous access, but I'm not entirely sure: modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command for sound_slot_1 To me this is a big problem, and I'd like to file it as a bug report, but I need to verify there is not a problem with my configuration and solicit some tips first. I've also experienced some of the other sound-related problems mentioned elsewhere on this list (including PCM being muted by default), but I believe this is a different problem. Any ideas appreciated. Other possibly relevant details: > cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [nForce2 ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2 NVidia nForce2 at 0xe2080000, irq 5 > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf.dist alias char-major-116-* snd alias sound-service-*-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-*-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-*-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-*-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-*-12 snd-pcm-oss install sound-slot-* /sbin/modprobe snd-card-${MODPROBE_MODULE##sound[_-]slot[_-]} > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf alias snd_card_0 snd_intel8x0 options snd-intel8x0 mpu_port=0x330 -- Mike From pawsa-gpa at theochem.kth.se Sat May 8 07:00:19 2004 From: pawsa-gpa at theochem.kth.se (Pawel Salek) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 07:00:19 +0000 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1083987457.11439.92.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> (from ml@mutox.org on Sat, May 08, 2004 at 05:37:54 +0200) References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <409B0EA4.2010303@flarn.com> <1083987457.11439.92.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> Message-ID: <1083999619l.32279l.8l@nora.saleks.org> On 05/08/2004 05:37:54 AM, Dan wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 14:20, Ken Snider wrote: > > Anyone have any information (anecdotal or otherwise) on the > performance of > > cyrus versus UW-IMAPd on really big mailboxes (more than 1 gig/30k > > messages)? Or is this exclusively a function of mailbox format? > > I wondered this myself, as one of the main reasons i switched to > cyrus-imap was the woeful performance of uw-imap. > > On UW-imap, mailboxes only 10meg in size took "a while" to open. Far > longer than they should. On Cyrus, there was no noticeable delay > between clicking on the message, and the message loading in the preview > pane. Did you use mbx mailbox format with UW-IMAP? Did you try searching on the server side? -pawel From roger at gwch.net Sat May 8 08:29:25 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Grosswiler Roger) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 10:29:25 +0200 Subject: cyrus-imapd (and authentication) Message-ID: <1084004965.2516.9.camel@lneo> Hi all, i installed cyrus-imapd via yum, so it isn't the version working from simon, but its a good thing in there also. just to say: the authentication for me is made via sasl. It's just that sasl uses the pam-mechanism. HTH Roger From e.mergl at bawue.de Sat May 8 09:09:51 2004 From: e.mergl at bawue.de (Edmund Mergl) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 11:09:51 +0200 Subject: oracle10g FC2-test3 Message-ID: <409CA3DF.9090507@bawue.de> is there any other solution for running oracle with FC2-test3 instead of setting bin/oracle suid root ? Edmund From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat May 8 09:23:19 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:23:19 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm [Failed] In-Reply-To: <1083974171.3902.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083974171.3902.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040508112319.24301259.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 08 May 2004 01:56:11 +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > $ rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm > [...] > + /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot > File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' > File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatiassmp/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.40344 (%install) > > > $ objdump -x /var/tmp/kernel-2.6.5-1.354.fmatias-root/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf | grep ORIGIN > RPATH $ORIGIN > > Any thought ? https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1401#c32 From mark at talios.com Sat May 8 10:00:47 2004 From: mark at talios.com (Mark Derricutt) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 22:00:47 +1200 Subject: FC2T3 and sun Java In-Reply-To: <409A8C25.6090904@amberpoint.com> References: <409A67BA.6010204@amberpoint.com> <1083862034.7866.4.camel@bristle.dhcp.cv.hp.com> <409A8C25.6090904@amberpoint.com> Message-ID: <409CAFCF.3050607@talios.com> Brian Anderson wrote: > I update frequently and I check it. The latest kernel, 351, exhibits > the same behavior. There is a java problem with the 2.6 kernel, seems to be related to the new javax.nio.* classes, I read something about the way file_copy() operations changed in the 2.6.x series kernels but can't find any specific errors/reports of the problem. I know the Jetbrains guys did a work around to get IntelliJ IDEA working under 2.6. -- Discouragement is a dissatisfaction with the past, a distaste for the present, and a distrust of the future - Maree De Jong, CLCA. Mark Derricutt --- mark@ talios.com --- http://www.talios.com From mark at talios.com Sat May 8 10:03:21 2004 From: mark at talios.com (Mark Derricutt) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 22:03:21 +1200 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <2518.12.29.16.103.1083791011.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1322.12.29.16.103.1083790139.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1083790292.2488.32.camel@d1ntpm41> <2518.12.29.16.103.1083791011.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <409CB069.5060102@talios.com> William Hooper wrote: > http://dag.wieers.com/packages/mono/ Theres also official RPMs at http://go-mono.com - they currently conflict with Dag's RPMs thou, and the official RPMs are ALOT more broken up into about 30+ RPMs, totalling 60ish mb. Mark -- Discouragement is a dissatisfaction with the past, a distaste for the present, and a distrust of the future - Maree De Jong, CLCA. Mark Derricutt --- mark@ talios.com --- http://www.talios.com From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Sat May 8 10:27:33 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:27:33 +0100 Subject: cdwriter In-Reply-To: <40962A5F.9050003@insight.rr.com> References: <200405031059.43988.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> <40962A5F.9050003@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <200405081127.34022.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> On Monday 03 May 2004 12:17, Jim Cornette wrote: > Ted wrote: > > I have both Fedora and Debian on my drive...Debian will burn cd's ok and > > cdrecord -scanbus tells me the burner is 0,0,0 whereas Fedora tells me > > 1,0,0 and in Fedora I get an error message... > > scsidev: 'ATA' > > devname: 'ATA' > > scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 > > Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. > > Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 > > > > I notice I do not call for ide=scsi in the grub boot in fedora yet I do > > in the working Debian on the older kernel.... > > The 2.6 kernel uses the ide-cd driver instead. Sometimes the CDROM needs > this added to the grub.conf file. > > > I have checked in /dev and the link is ok to hcd so anyone tell me > > where I am going wrong ?? > > /dev/cdrom or /dev/cdwriter? (pointing to /dev/hdc) > > I'm on an FC1 nstallation right now. ls -la /dev/cd* gives me the below > output. FC2 of course should be different. > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 2 17:07 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 > ..... > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 3 06:52 /dev/cdwriter -> /dev/sg0 > > Have you tried to burn using the nautilus CD burner feature? (right > click on ISO file. Choose write to CD.) > > Jim Hi Jim I finally found if I edit grub to put kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ ide-scsi rhgb quiet All is ok.......Thanks for your help.... -- Regards Ted Wager Using Fedora Linux From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Sat May 8 10:38:58 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:38:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: oracle10g FC2-test3 In-Reply-To: <409CA3DF.9090507@bawue.de> References: <409CA3DF.9090507@bawue.de> Message-ID: On Sat, 8 May 2004, Edmund Mergl wrote: > is there any other solution for running oracle with > FC2-test3 instead of setting bin/oracle suid root ? Yes, running export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 (assuming sh/bash) before starting oracle should also work. Michael Young From joern.hassler at gmx.de Sat May 8 10:47:29 2004 From: joern.hassler at gmx.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Hassler) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 12:47:29 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 3 - NFS server: server is down Message-ID: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> I installed FC2T3 on one of my machines and could not mount any NFS-Dir from my Server (SuSE 8.2). With FC1 on my other machines I have no problem at all mounting any NFS-Dirs from the server. [root at flaneur root]# mount 192.168.1.2:/home mount to NFS server '192.168.1.2' failed: server is down. You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root [root at flaneur root]# rpcinfo -p arogno program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100004 2 udp 816 ypserv 100004 1 udp 816 ypserv 100004 2 tcp 819 ypserv 100004 1 tcp 819 ypserv 100009 1 udp 832 yppasswdd 600100069 1 udp 844 fypxfrd 600100069 1 tcp 846 fypxfrd 100005 1 udp 877 mountd 100005 2 udp 877 mountd 100005 1 tcp 880 mountd 100005 2 tcp 880 mountd 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs [root at flaneur root]# SELinux and the firewall are already disabled... Has anyone any suggestions? J?rn -- J?rn Hassler (joern.hassler at gmx.de) Icq: 120443734 (huski2) From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sat May 8 11:59:58 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 12:59:58 +0100 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade Message-ID: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> Hi, I've just upgraded from FC1 to FC2 test3 and my CD-ROM drive no longer works: I can't play audio CDs or mount CD-ROMs. E.g. mount /mnt/cdrom gives me "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device" (as root or user). The big change between the two versions is that with FC1 /dev/cdrom linked to /dev/scd0, whereas now it links to /dev/hdc (presumably this is some change in kernel 2.6 with the way it handles CD-ROM drives?). dmesg lists "hdc: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-332B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive" so presumably /dev/cdrom is linking to the correct location. Can anyone give any advice on troubleshooting this? Is it a problem with my setup? It wouldn't be much good for users to upgrade from FC1 to FC2 and find they lose their CD drives! Thanks, Leon... From e.mergl at bawue.de Sat May 8 11:58:39 2004 From: e.mergl at bawue.de (Edmund Mergl) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 13:58:39 +0200 Subject: oracle10g FC2-test3 In-Reply-To: References: <409CA3DF.9090507@bawue.de> Message-ID: <409CCB6F.3090300@bawue.de> I have triple cheked all requirements concerning shared mem but still no luck. Whenever dbca tries to create a database, I get the error message 'unable to create shared memory segment'. Is there someone who runs oracle successfully on FC2-test3 ? Edmund M A Young wrote: > On Sat, 8 May 2004, Edmund Mergl wrote: > > >>is there any other solution for running oracle with >>FC2-test3 instead of setting bin/oracle suid root ? > > > Yes, running > export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 > (assuming sh/bash) before starting oracle should also work. > > Michael Young > > From thisismyspamdump at rogers.com Sat May 8 12:00:15 2004 From: thisismyspamdump at rogers.com (Joe Reid) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 08:00:15 -0400 Subject: enabling multiple apps to access the sound card simultaneously In-Reply-To: <1083998991.2611.24.camel@pepper.localdomain> References: <1083998991.2611.24.camel@pepper.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084017615.2939.2.camel@bean> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 02:49, Michael Wardle wrote: > Hi All > > After upgrading to Fedora 2 Test 3 from Fedora 1, my sound output is > somewhat choppy and distorted, but my biggest problem is that sound is > not being multiplexed properly, so only one application can > simultanously use the sound card. > > I typically run applications such as Rhythmbox and Gaim under the GNOME > Desktop. When Rhythmbox finishes playing a song, many queued Gaim > sounds are spewed out at once. Rhythmbox then fails to reopen the sound > card to play the next song in the playlist. Other applications that > will play sound but only when they have exclusive access include Totem > and aplay. When I attempt to test GNOME event sounds (which I > ordinarily have disabled) in the GNOME Sound Preferences control panel, > I hear no sound. > > Gaim is configured to use the Automatic detection method (however I've > tried both ESD and Command: "aplay %s" methods), GStreamer is configured > to use the ALSA output sink. GNOME is configured to start the sound > server (esd) at start up. GNOME Volume Control shows two pages, the > first titled "Realtek ALC650 rev 3 [Audio Mixer (OSS)]", the second > titled "NVidia nForce2 [Alsa Mixer]". > > I am using an nForce 2 mainboard with an nVidia nForce 2 APU/Realtek ALC > 650 which uses the Intel 8x0 ALSA driver. The relevant channels appear > to have a moderate volume after having to manually set them > (particularly PCM is unmuted). > > >From time to time, I see the following message in syslog, despite only > having only one sound card (the onboard nForce 2), which I believe means > I should only have sound-slot-0 and snd-card-0. The timing does not > appear to coincide with occasions where multiple applications are > attempting simultaneous access, but I'm not entirely sure: > modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command for sound_slot_1 > > To me this is a big problem, and I'd like to file it as a bug report, > but I need to verify there is not a problem with my configuration and > solicit some tips first. I've also experienced some of the other > sound-related problems mentioned elsewhere on this list (including PCM > being muted by default), but I believe this is a different problem. Any > ideas appreciated. > > Other possibly relevant details: > > cat /proc/asound/cards > 0 [nForce2 ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2 > NVidia nForce2 at 0xe2080000, irq 5 > > > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf.dist > alias char-major-116-* snd > alias sound-service-*-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-*-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-*-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-*-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-*-12 snd-pcm-oss > install sound-slot-* /sbin/modprobe > snd-card-${MODPROBE_MODULE##sound[_-]slot[_-]} > > > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf > alias snd_card_0 snd_intel8x0 > options snd-intel8x0 mpu_port=0x330 > > -- > Mike > > I get the same thing here, on an Asus P4G8x board, same intel8x0. [root at bean joe]# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [I82801DBICH4 ]: ICH - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Intel 82801DB-ICH4 at 0xdb800000, irq 17 [root at bean joe]# grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf.dist alias char-major-116-* snd alias sound-service-*-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-*-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-*-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-*-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-*-12 snd-pcm-oss install sound-slot-* /sbin/modprobe snd-card-${MODPROBE_MODULE##sound[_-]slot[_-]} [root at bean joe]# [root at bean joe]# grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 Bugzilla maybe? I know there have been issues with this chipset in the past, not sure what has been fixed. Joe From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Sat May 8 12:09:35 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 13:09:35 +0100 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <200405081309.35337.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> On Saturday 08 May 2004 12:59, Leon Stringer wrote: > Hi, > > I've just upgraded from FC1 to FC2 test3 and my CD-ROM drive no longer > works: I can't play audio CDs or mount CD-ROMs. E.g. mount /mnt/cdrom > gives me "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device" (as root or user). > > The big change between the two versions is that with FC1 /dev/cdrom > linked to /dev/scd0, whereas now it links to /dev/hdc (presumably this > is some change in kernel 2.6 with the way it handles CD-ROM drives?). > > dmesg lists "hdc: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-332B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive" so > presumably /dev/cdrom is linking to the correct location. > > Can anyone give any advice on troubleshooting this? Is it a problem with > my setup? It wouldn't be much good for users to upgrade from FC1 to FC2 > and find they lose their CD drives! > > Thanks, > > Leon... In my previous post I mentioned have to put ide-scsi in grub to get cd devices running although popular opinion says it is not needed... -- Regards Ted Wager Using Fedora Linux From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sat May 8 12:39:39 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 13:39:39 +0100 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <200405081309.35337.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> <200405081309.35337.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> Message-ID: <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> I already have this entry (kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi rhgb nofb). I didn't put it there so I guess Anaconda did. But my CD drive is still not working. Ted wrote: >On Saturday 08 May 2004 12:59, Leon Stringer wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I've just upgraded from FC1 to FC2 test3 and my CD-ROM drive no longer >>works: I can't play audio CDs or mount CD-ROMs. E.g. mount /mnt/cdrom >>gives me "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device" (as root or user). >> >>dmesg lists "hdc: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-332B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive" so >>presumably /dev/cdrom is linking to the correct location. >> >> >> >In my previous post I mentioned have to put ide-scsi in grub to get cd devices >running although popular opinion says it is not needed... > > From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Sat May 8 12:39:01 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 13:39:01 +0100 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> <200405081309.35337.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <200405081339.01038.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> On Saturday 08 May 2004 13:39, Leon Stringer wrote: > I already have this entry (kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro > root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi rhgb nofb). I didn't put it there so I guess > Anaconda did. But my CD drive is still not working. > > Ted wrote: > >On Saturday 08 May 2004 12:59, Leon Stringer wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>I've just upgraded from FC1 to FC2 test3 and my CD-ROM drive no longer > >>works: I can't play audio CDs or mount CD-ROMs. E.g. mount /mnt/cdrom > >>gives me "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device" (as root or > >> user). > >> > >>dmesg lists "hdc: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-332B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive" so > >>presumably /dev/cdrom is linking to the correct location. > > > >In my previous post I mentioned have to put ide-scsi in grub to get cd > > devices running although popular opinion says it is not needed... I tried this too but it does not work.....You must make the entry as I wrote.... -- Regards Ted Wager Using Libranet Linux From fedora at ventura.nu Sat May 8 13:08:50 2004 From: fedora at ventura.nu (Ron McKown) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 17:08:50 +0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 3 - NFS server: server is down In-Reply-To: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> Message-ID: <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> there appears to be a workaround as described here: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg00654.html Ron McKown On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 14:47, J?rn Hassler wrote: > I installed FC2T3 on one of my machines and could not mount any NFS-Dir > from my Server (SuSE 8.2). With FC1 on my other machines I have no > problem at all mounting any NFS-Dirs from the server. > > > [root at flaneur root]# mount 192.168.1.2:/home > mount to NFS server '192.168.1.2' failed: server is down. > You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root > [root at flaneur root]# rpcinfo -p arogno > program vers proto port > 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper > 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper > 100004 2 udp 816 ypserv > 100004 1 udp 816 ypserv > 100004 2 tcp 819 ypserv > 100004 1 tcp 819 ypserv > 100009 1 udp 832 yppasswdd > 600100069 1 udp 844 fypxfrd > 600100069 1 tcp 846 fypxfrd > 100005 1 udp 877 mountd > 100005 2 udp 877 mountd > 100005 1 tcp 880 mountd > 100005 2 tcp 880 mountd > 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs > 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs > [root at flaneur root]# > > SELinux and the firewall are already disabled... > > Has anyone any suggestions? > > J?rn > -- > J?rn Hassler > (joern.hassler at gmx.de) > > Icq: 120443734 (huski2) > From figogeorge at hotmail.com Sat May 8 13:12:17 2004 From: figogeorge at hotmail.com (George) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:12:17 +0300 Subject: eth0 problems at boot time !!! Message-ID: i ve just installed(upgrate from fc1 ) fc2 test3 relleased and i have the following problem . My eth0 was configured as well , but during initialization i received the following message " Determinign IP information for ...eth0 ... failed . No link presented , Check cable ? thats all and of course i can't connect to my lan and to the internet as you imagined ... the worst is that i cant even configure my card manualy , i took the same message .... Please help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Sat May 8 13:32:04 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 14:32:04 +0100 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> <200405081309.35337.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20040508133204.GA4730@nsk.no-ip.org> On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 01:39:39PM +0100, Leon Stringer wrote: > I already have this entry (kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro > root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi rhgb nofb). I didn't put it there so I guess > Anaconda did. But my CD drive is still not working. If you do have "hdc=ide-scsi" in grub.conf, then your cdrom link is invalid. Either remove that option from grub, or change the link to point to scd0. The recomended way is to remove the option. The ide-scsi subsystem was broken in the first 2.6 kernels (and it was never that good to start with). I don't know its state in the new ones, but I guess the recomendation keeps. Regards, Luciano Rocha -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Sat May 8 13:41:48 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 14:41:48 +0100 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <20040508133204.GA4730@nsk.no-ip.org> References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> <20040508133204.GA4730@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <200405081441.48948.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> On Saturday 08 May 2004 14:32, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote: > On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 01:39:39PM +0100, Leon Stringer wrote: > > I already have this entry (kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro > > root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi rhgb nofb). I didn't put it there so I guess > > Anaconda did. But my CD drive is still not working. > > If you do have "hdc=ide-scsi" in grub.conf, then your cdrom link is > invalid. Either remove that option from grub, or change the link to point > to scd0. > > The recomended way is to remove the option. The ide-scsi subsystem was > broken in the first 2.6 kernels (and it was never that good to start > with). I don't know its state in the new ones, but I guess the > recomendation keeps. > No.... On my fedora partition I have to enter ide-scsi....No hdc or hdd mentioned to get it to work...On this debian partition I do not have an entry for ide,scsi or hdx and it works ok.... -- Regards Ted Wager Using Libranet Linux From list at inksystems.net Sat May 8 13:50:53 2004 From: list at inksystems.net (Igor N. Kolomiyets) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 14:50:53 +0100 Subject: oracle10g FC2-test3 In-Reply-To: <409CCB6F.3090300@bawue.de> References: <409CA3DF.9090507@bawue.de> <409CCB6F.3090300@bawue.de> Message-ID: <409CE5BD.1090702@inksystems.net> Yes, i have no problem at all. As previously suggested add export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 into environment of the user which is running oracle instance. It should work. Best regards, Igor. Edmund Mergl wrote: > > I have triple cheked all requirements concerning shared mem > but still no luck. Whenever dbca tries to create a database, > I get the error message 'unable to create shared memory segment'. > Is there someone who runs oracle successfully on FC2-test3 ? > > Edmund > > > M A Young wrote: > >> On Sat, 8 May 2004, Edmund Mergl wrote: >> >> >>> is there any other solution for running oracle with >>> FC2-test3 instead of setting bin/oracle suid root ? >> >> >> >> Yes, running >> export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 >> (assuming sh/bash) before starting oracle should also work. >> >> Michael Young >> >> > > From whatsizbucket at comcast.net Sat May 8 13:56:11 2004 From: whatsizbucket at comcast.net (Jason Salaz) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 07:56:11 -0600 Subject: Multiple issues after lastest yum update... Message-ID: <1084024571.2695.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Multiple problems occurred after the update via yum update. Sendmail is now taking at least two minutes to load (actually counted the seconds out loud) smclient is taking at least 30 seconds to load. Sound is now defunct even though the card is detected, and everything is non-muted, and all. You can hear nothing off this system now, even though it worked from initial Fedora Core 2 Test 3 clean install. I suspect esound or alsa sound driver issues. I would suggest lifting the devel freeze, since it's apparent that we still need some work on this release. Everything seems to be getting broken after the latest yum update. Finally.. what happened to the Desktop Switching Tool? I am an avid user of KDE, and have yet to find any other way to change to it, for at least a session, from the login screen. Just my two cents... -Jason From PictorGuy at aol.com Sat May 8 13:53:03 2004 From: PictorGuy at aol.com (PictorGuy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 09:53:03 EDT Subject: Problem upgrading from FC2t1 to FC2t3 Message-ID: <148.28f79033.2dce403f@aol.com> I finally got around to installing C2T3 last night and I'm now getting... VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or unkown-block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) grub look like this.... root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img I've tried passing LABEL=/dev/sda3 and root=803 but no luck there either. Any ideas? Hardware is a D865GBF motherboard with an Adaptec 29160N card in front of a Seagate drive. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gstool at earthlink.net Sat May 8 14:12:14 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 09:12:14 -0500 Subject: Multiple issues after lastest yum update... In-Reply-To: <1084024571.2695.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084024571.2695.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <409CEABE.1040503@earthlink.net> Jason Salaz wrote: > Multiple problems occurred after the update via yum update. ... > Finally.. what happened to the Desktop Switching Tool? I am an avid > user of KDE, and have yet to find any other way to change to it, for at > least a session, from the login screen. > Try the following from Mark McLoughlin in a former thread. After this change, you can select the session from the gdm login screen. Yeah, basically GDM has code to allow you do it, but it disables that code if it sees that switchdesk is installed. You can switch that behaviour on even if switchdesk is installed by doing ShowLastSession=true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Gerry Tool From fedora at ventura.nu Sat May 8 14:12:12 2004 From: fedora at ventura.nu (Ron McKown) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 18:12:12 +0400 Subject: FC2T3 no DMA available on /dev/hda Message-ID: <1084025532.12250.9.camel@callisto> I am using FC2T3 and having a strange problem getting DMA activated on my IDE drive (/dev/hda). My primary drive (/dev/sda) is a SATA drive and works wonderfully. hdparm -cd /dev/hda /dev/hda: IO_support = 1 (32-bit) using_dma = 0 (off) hdparm -d1 /dev/hda /dev/hda: setting using_dma to 1 (on) HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted using_dma = 0 (off) If I remove my SATA drive (/dev/sda) and install FC2T3 directly onto the IDE drive (/dev/hda), then DMA is activated on the device. My motherboard is an Intel 865PE. I dual boot this computer (both OS on the SATA drive) and WindowsXP reports DMA as active on the secondary /dev/hda device. Anyone have a clue what is happening here? Ron McKown From fedora at ventura.nu Sat May 8 14:14:52 2004 From: fedora at ventura.nu (Ron McKown) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 18:14:52 +0400 Subject: eth0 problems at boot time !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084025692.12250.11.camel@callisto> It looks like your network card is setup to receive an IP address via DHCP. Check to see in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 has a BOOTPROTO=dhcp in it. if it does, change the value to static, e.g. BOOTPROTO=static Ron McKown On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 17:12, George wrote: > i ve just installed(upgrate from fc1 ) fc2 test3 relleased and i > have the following problem . > > My eth0 was configured as well , but during initialization i > received the following message > > " Determinign IP information for ...eth0 ... failed . No link > presented , Check cable ? > thats all > and of course i can't connect to my lan and to the internet as you > imagined ... > the worst is that i cant even configure my card manualy , i took > the same message .... > Please help. > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From linux at bytebot.net Sat May 8 14:18:47 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 00:18:47 +1000 Subject: eth0 problems at boot time !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084025926.14139.285.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 23:12, George wrote: > i ve just installed(upgrate from fc1 ) fc2 test3 relleased and i > have the following problem . > > My eth0 was configured as well , but during initialization i > received the following message WHat network card do you have? More details will help us fix this problem for you -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sat May 8 14:33:09 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 15:33:09 +0100 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <200405081441.48948.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> <20040508133204.GA4730@nsk.no-ip.org> <200405081441.48948.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> Message-ID: <409CEFA5.5020904@ntlworld.com> If I just have ide-scsi in grub.conf (i.e. kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ ide-scsi rhgb nofb) or remove the entry completely (i.e. kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb nofb) I can read CD-ROMs and play audio CDs. Is this a bug and if so what in? Surely the final release of FC2 will need to address this? Thanks for the replies that enabled me to fix this. Ted wrote: >On Saturday 08 May 2004 14:32, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote: > > >>On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 01:39:39PM +0100, Leon Stringer wrote: >> >> >>>I already have this entry (kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro >>>root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi rhgb nofb). I didn't put it there so I guess >>>Anaconda did. But my CD drive is still not working. >>> >>> >>If you do have "hdc=ide-scsi" in grub.conf, then your cdrom link is >>invalid. Either remove that option from grub, or change the link to point >>to scd0. >> >>The recomended way is to remove the option. The ide-scsi subsystem was >>broken in the first 2.6 kernels (and it was never that good to start >>with). I don't know its state in the new ones, but I guess the >>recomendation keeps. >> >> >> >No.... >On my fedora partition I have to enter > ide-scsi....No hdc or hdd mentioned >to get it to work...On this debian partition I do not have an entry for >ide,scsi or hdx and it works ok.... > > > From list at joshsteeper.com Sat May 8 15:13:14 2004 From: list at joshsteeper.com (Josh Steeper) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 08:13:14 -0700 Subject: enabling multiple apps to access the sound card simultaneously In-Reply-To: <1083998991.2611.24.camel@pepper.localdomain> References: <1083998991.2611.24.camel@pepper.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084029194.2765.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have the exact same problem. I have especially noticed it with the deluge of queued Gaim event sounds which will play at once when a song is finished playing. I have an Asus A7N8X motherboard and am using the onboard sound. cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [nForce2 ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2 NVidia nForce2 at 0xee080000, irq 5 grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf.dist alias char-major-116-* snd alias sound-service-*-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-*-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-*-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-*-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-*-12 snd-pcm-oss install sound-slot-* /sbin/modprobe snd-card-${MODPROBE_MODULE##sound[_-]slot[_-]} grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 ------------------------------------------------------- Josh On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 23:49, Michael Wardle wrote: > Hi All > > After upgrading to Fedora 2 Test 3 from Fedora 1, my sound output is > somewhat choppy and distorted, but my biggest problem is that sound is > not being multiplexed properly, so only one application can > simultanously use the sound card. > > I typically run applications such as Rhythmbox and Gaim under the GNOME > Desktop. When Rhythmbox finishes playing a song, many queued Gaim > sounds are spewed out at once. Rhythmbox then fails to reopen the sound > card to play the next song in the playlist. Other applications that > will play sound but only when they have exclusive access include Totem > and aplay. When I attempt to test GNOME event sounds (which I > ordinarily have disabled) in the GNOME Sound Preferences control panel, > I hear no sound. > > Gaim is configured to use the Automatic detection method (however I've > tried both ESD and Command: "aplay %s" methods), GStreamer is configured > to use the ALSA output sink. GNOME is configured to start the sound > server (esd) at start up. GNOME Volume Control shows two pages, the > first titled "Realtek ALC650 rev 3 [Audio Mixer (OSS)]", the second > titled "NVidia nForce2 [Alsa Mixer]". > > I am using an nForce 2 mainboard with an nVidia nForce 2 APU/Realtek ALC > 650 which uses the Intel 8x0 ALSA driver. The relevant channels appear > to have a moderate volume after having to manually set them > (particularly PCM is unmuted). > > >From time to time, I see the following message in syslog, despite only > having only one sound card (the onboard nForce 2), which I believe means > I should only have sound-slot-0 and snd-card-0. The timing does not > appear to coincide with occasions where multiple applications are > attempting simultaneous access, but I'm not entirely sure: > modprobe: FATAL: Error running install command for sound_slot_1 > > To me this is a big problem, and I'd like to file it as a bug report, > but I need to verify there is not a problem with my configuration and > solicit some tips first. I've also experienced some of the other > sound-related problems mentioned elsewhere on this list (including PCM > being muted by default), but I believe this is a different problem. Any > ideas appreciated. > > Other possibly relevant details: > > cat /proc/asound/cards > 0 [nForce2 ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2 > NVidia nForce2 at 0xe2080000, irq 5 > > > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf.dist > alias char-major-116-* snd > alias sound-service-*-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-*-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-*-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-*-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-*-12 snd-pcm-oss > install sound-slot-* /sbin/modprobe > snd-card-${MODPROBE_MODULE##sound[_-]slot[_-]} > > > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf > alias snd_card_0 snd_intel8x0 > options snd-intel8x0 mpu_port=0x330 > > -- > Mike > > From christian at j-son.org Sat May 8 16:00:52 2004 From: christian at j-son.org (Christian Joensson) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 18:00:52 +0200 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <20040507234416.GB15531@psych>; from baron@psych.upenn.edu on Fri, May 07, 2004 at 07:44:16PM -0400 References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> <20040507234416.GB15531@psych> Message-ID: <20040508180052.A21833@fw.j-son.org> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 07:44:16PM -0400, Jonathan Baron wrote: > I have found one reason why acpi might not work. I have a smp > kernel, and it produces an error message when loading: > "S3 and PAE do not like each other". > I looked up PAE and it seems to be something for handling huge > amounts of memory. Given that I have only 1 GB, I might not need > it. Does anyone know how to turn it off? I think there is > something to add to the "kernel ..." line in grub.conf, but I > can't find out what the options are for that. FWIW, I too get this problem, Dell Worskstation 610 (SMP). Doesn't boot an smp kernel without acpi=off. Cheers, /ChJ From thisismyspamdump at rogers.com Sat May 8 16:15:04 2004 From: thisismyspamdump at rogers.com (thisismyspamdump at rogers.com) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 12:15:04 -0400 Subject: Problem upgrading from FC2t1 to FC2t3 Message-ID: <20040508161504.BWGU184591.fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@localhost> Change the kernel line to just kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 Worked for me a few days ago. Remove the graphical boot though (the rhgb). Joe > > From: PictorGuy at aol.com > Date: 2004/05/08 Sat AM 09:53:03 EDT > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: Problem upgrading from FC2t1 to FC2t3 > > I finally got around to installing C2T3 last night and I'm now getting... > > VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or unkown-block(0,0) > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) > > grub look like this.... > > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img > > I've tried passing LABEL=/dev/sda3 and root=803 but no luck there either. Any > ideas? > > Hardware is a D865GBF motherboard with an Adaptec 29160N card in front of a > Seagate drive. > > 1 -------------- next part -------------- -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From gds at chartertn.net Sat May 8 16:35:16 2004 From: gds at chartertn.net (Gene Smith) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 12:35:16 -0400 Subject: Conflict dvdrecord & cdrecord Message-ID: FYI, yum -y update gave the subject conflict last night while upgrading 23 packages (and nothing upgraded). Trying again excluding these packages. -gene From PictorGuy at aol.com Sat May 8 16:44:02 2004 From: PictorGuy at aol.com (PictorGuy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 12:44:02 EDT Subject: Problem upgrading from FC2t1 to FC2t3 Message-ID: <165.2ead9a6a.2dce6852@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/2004 12:15:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, thisismyspamdump at rogers.com writes: Change the kernel line to just kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 Worked for me a few days ago. Remove the graphical boot though (the rhgb). Tried that and it fails too. Also... slight correction... the motherboard is a D865PERL not a D865GBF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexl at stofanet.dk Sat May 8 16:51:28 2004 From: alexl at stofanet.dk (=?iso-8859-1?B?YWxleGw=?=) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 18:51:28 +0200 Subject: SV: Re: mplayer prelink Message-ID: try this adress http://www.dr.dk/skum/_arkiv/angora/angora_1_02.asx my mplayer can only play all these wmv files when the prelink are changed -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Til: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Emne: Re: mplayer prelink Dato: 08-05-2004 01:11:07 > Mplayer works for me. > > I have these rpm's installed: > mplayer-1.0pre3-1.i386.rpm > mplayer-codecs-extralite-1.0-1.i386.rpm > mplayer-common-1.0pre3-1.i386.rpm > mplayer-gui-1.0pre3-1.i386.rpm > mplayerplug-in-2.60-fc1.i386.rpm > mplayer-skin-default-1.0-2.noarch.rpm > lame-3.93.1-3.fr.i386.rpm > > Timothy > > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 17:34, Alex Thomsen Leth wrote: > > i found this on the mplayer faq: > > > > Q: > > > > Why doesn't MPlayer work on Fedora Core? > > > > A: > > > > There is a bad interaction on Fedora between exec-shield, prelink, and > > any applications which use Windows DLLs (such as MPlayer). > > > > The problem is that exec-shield randomizes the load addresses of all the > > system libraries. This randomization happens at prelink time (once every > > two weeks). > > > > When MPlayer tries to load a Windows DLL it wants to put it at a > > specific address (0x400000). If an important system library happens to > > be there already, MPlayer will crash. (A typical symptom would be a > > segmentation fault when trying to play Windows Media 9 files.) > > > > If you run into this problem you have two options: > > > > * Wait two weeks. It might start working again. > > > > * Relink all the binaries on the system with different prelink > > options. Here are step by step instructions: > > > > 1. Edit /etc/syconfig/prelink and change > > > > PRELINK_OPTS=-mR > > > > to > > > > PRELINK_OPTS="-mR --no-exec-shield" > > > > 2. touch /var/lib/misc/prelink.force > > > > 3. /etc/cron.daily/prelink (This relinks all the > > applications, and it takes quite a while.) > > > > 4. execstack -s /path/to/mplayer (This turns off > > exec-shield for the MPlayer binary.) > > > > > > > > > > why isnt these settings made by default. mplayer does'nt work well > > without these settings > > > > Alex Thomsen Leth > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Sat May 8 17:09:30 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 12:09:30 -0500 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend Message-ID: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> Yum is such a great package management program (very well designed except maybe for having to get all the headers) and stable, yet for some reason we expect the average home user to bust out his/her x-term and learn the in's and out's of yum CLI usage? (not to mention config file management ). Sure you might say, there is apt and synaptic, a wonderfully userfriendly combination but again: these would require the usage of yum and text line repo management to install on any stock fedora system. I think it is seriously time to consider someone writing a yum frontend that could be included with the standard fedora desktop. With all of the gtk library resources available for python (what yum uses) I don't see it being more than a 'scratching an itch' project. Perhaps we could even get it out in time for FC3? Up2date could be used as a framework for which to build the GUI frontend around and synaptic code could also be used if needed. I think that this is something that needs to be seriously considered by developers and red hat people alike. For the betterment of the Fedora experience. -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 3 *x86_64* From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sat May 8 17:55:55 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 13:55:55 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 12:09 -0500, Jason Knight wrote: > Yum is such a great package management program (very well designed > except maybe for having to get all the headers) and stable, yet for some > reason we expect the average home user to bust out his/her x-term and > learn the in's and out's of yum CLI usage? (not to mention config file > management ). Sure you might say, there is apt and synaptic, a > wonderfully userfriendly combination but again: these would require the > usage of yum and text line repo management to install on any stock > fedora system. Thanks for the kind words. look on the fedora-config-list and you can see some of that discussion there. I've been rewriting considerable portions of yum with this in mind. it takes time, b/c I'm trying to keep from making a bunch of the same mistakes and getting rid of the 'download all the headers' requirement that everyone seems to hate. -sv From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sat May 8 18:56:07 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 14:56:07 -0400 Subject: VMware error with kernel-2.6.5-1.326 In-Reply-To: <4099B6D1.3030602@cbbaz.com> References: <1082058715.2006.22.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <200404152057.50671.fedora@warmcat.com> <200404160702.43316.fedora@warmcat.com> <4099B6D1.3030602@cbbaz.com> Message-ID: <1084042566.4879.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 20:53 -0700, Sponger wrote: > Hello, > > This is regarding this old post(I know IM SORRY!). > > I have followed all the instructions given in all these correspondences > here, and am still having a problem installing vmware 4.05-6030. > I untared the vmware-any-any-update59 into the VMWARE dircetory in my > /home/sponger directory. Then I cd'ed into that update directory and > ran ./runme.pl and it asks me for the directory of my C header files, > and per the directions in one of the emails this is what I gave it: > /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.332/build/kernel/ > and this is the msg it gives me: > "The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the same > address space size as your running kernel." > > So then being a noob I tried all the other directories in /lib/modules > of the other kernels installed on my system, but then it complains thats > not the right kernel and wants the .332 version....but it gives me that > error..... > > Any ideas? > Late response to a late post - get the free upgrade to VMware 4.5.1-7568 and the vmware-any-any-update65 and try again. If you have properly installed both the kernel and corresponding kernel-source RPMS, VMware should find the correct headers itself and provide that as the default selection. Some posts have indicated that kernel-source is not required but I can't verify that. Phil From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Sat May 8 19:01:56 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 15:01:56 -0400 Subject: No Sound in FC2 Test 3 Message-ID: <200405081902.i48J2PAX012559@mx3.redhat.com> Good Afternoon, I have just performed a clean install of FC2 Test 3 and to my dismay there is no sound. I have a Yamaha DS-XG board which the sound detection program "system-config-soundcard" identifies and can play the test sound without any problem. >From there I have enabled the sound in "Preferences" but it doesn't work. Using the same applet I go to sound events and select one, and then I hit the play button, but no joy. That is until I sign out, the sign out sounds work. So if I select the "shut down" radio button, I get the sound associated with that action and then I get the log out sound, but with anything else I get zip. Sound worked under test 2 and FC1. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks in advance! Bruce From e.mergl at bawue.de Sat May 8 19:06:39 2004 From: e.mergl at bawue.de (Edmund Mergl) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 21:06:39 +0200 Subject: oracle10g FC2-test3 In-Reply-To: <409CE5BD.1090702@inksystems.net> References: <409CA3DF.9090507@bawue.de> <409CCB6F.3090300@bawue.de> <409CE5BD.1090702@inksystems.net> Message-ID: <409D2FBF.50707@bawue.de> Igor, do you run selinux in permissive mode ? Edmund Igor N. Kolomiyets wrote: > Yes, i have no problem at all. As previously suggested add > > export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 > > into environment of the user which is running oracle instance. It should > work. > > Best regards, > Igor. > > Edmund Mergl wrote: > >> >> I have triple cheked all requirements concerning shared mem >> but still no luck. Whenever dbca tries to create a database, >> I get the error message 'unable to create shared memory segment'. >> Is there someone who runs oracle successfully on FC2-test3 ? >> >> Edmund >> >> >> M A Young wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 8 May 2004, Edmund Mergl wrote: >>> >>> >>>> is there any other solution for running oracle with >>>> FC2-test3 instead of setting bin/oracle suid root ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, running >>> export DISABLE_HUGETLBFS=1 >>> (assuming sh/bash) before starting oracle should also work. >>> >>> Michael Young >>> >>> >> >> > > From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 8 19:38:08 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 15:38:08 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <200405081538.08695.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 08 May 2004 13:55, seth vidal wrote: >On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 12:09 -0500, Jason Knight wrote: >> Yum is such a great package management program (very well designed >> except maybe for having to get all the headers) and stable, yet >> for some reason we expect the average home user to bust out >> his/her x-term and learn the in's and out's of yum CLI usage? (not >> to mention config file management ). Sure you might say, there is >> apt and synaptic, a wonderfully userfriendly combination but >> again: these would require the usage of yum and text line repo >> management to install on any stock fedora system. > >Thanks for the kind words. > >look on the fedora-config-list and you can see some of that > discussion there. > >I've been rewriting considerable portions of yum with this in mind. > >it takes time, b/c I'm trying to keep from making a bunch of the > same mistakes and getting rid of the 'download all the headers' > requirement that everyone seems to hate. > >-sv Frankly, I don't see how you can get away from downloading the headers, I can't visualize another way to positively find out whats new and different. Personally, I'm on a dsl connection, so that doesn't bother me, but I'd imagine the ppp0 users are looking at their phone bill if their time isn't unlimited as is the case in many countries. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From vibol at khmer.cc Sat May 8 19:59:50 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 12:59:50 -0700 Subject: Volume control applet doesn't change when muted? In-Reply-To: <1083983680.2611.5.camel@pepper.localdomain> References: <409C33EA.40607@khmer.cc> <1083983680.2611.5.camel@pepper.localdomain> Message-ID: <409D3C36.6050804@khmer.cc> Interesting, I'm running the same version of gnome-applet you are. However, the applet volume control is set to 'Volume' in Preferences. Changing it to 'Master' causes the slider to slowly move down and doesn't appear to remedy the icon not getting crossed out while muting. It might be related to the fact that two devices show up in the Volume Control application. When muting your master volume in the Volume Control application (the control application with all the sliders), does your Volume Control applet get crossed out? -Vibol Michael Wardle wrote: > > The icon shows the state of only the master volume. Do you describe the > master volume being muted, or one of the channels (PCM, Line-in, CD, > etc.)? > From marcdeslauriers at videotron.ca Sat May 8 20:02:47 2004 From: marcdeslauriers at videotron.ca (Marc Deslauriers) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 16:02:47 -0400 Subject: Volume control applet doesn't change when muted? In-Reply-To: <409C33EA.40607@khmer.cc> References: <409C33EA.40607@khmer.cc> Message-ID: <1084046566.13010.0.camel@mdlinux> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 21:12, Vibol Hou wrote: > Curious, but is the volume control applet in gnome supposed to get > crossed out if it's muted? Right now, the icon is no different whether > it's muted or unmuted. The small waves don't even go away to show that > the speaker is off/muted. This is already in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106138 Marc. From joern.hassler at gmx.de Sat May 8 20:32:48 2004 From: joern.hassler at gmx.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Hassler) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 22:32:48 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test 3 - NFS server: server is down In-Reply-To: <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> Message-ID: <1084048367.3793.0.camel@honeur> Thanks Ron, it worked... Am Sa, den 08.05.2004 schrieb Ron McKown um 15:08: > there appears to be a workaround as described here: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg00654.html > > Ron McKown > > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 14:47, J?rn Hassler wrote: > > I installed FC2T3 on one of my machines and could not mount any NFS-Dir > > from my Server (SuSE 8.2). With FC1 on my other machines I have no > > problem at all mounting any NFS-Dirs from the server. > > > > > > [root at flaneur root]# mount 192.168.1.2:/home > > mount to NFS server '192.168.1.2' failed: server is down. > > You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root > > [root at flaneur root]# rpcinfo -p arogno > > program vers proto port > > 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper > > 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper > > 100004 2 udp 816 ypserv > > 100004 1 udp 816 ypserv > > 100004 2 tcp 819 ypserv > > 100004 1 tcp 819 ypserv > > 100009 1 udp 832 yppasswdd > > 600100069 1 udp 844 fypxfrd > > 600100069 1 tcp 846 fypxfrd > > 100005 1 udp 877 mountd > > 100005 2 udp 877 mountd > > 100005 1 tcp 880 mountd > > 100005 2 tcp 880 mountd > > 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs > > 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs > > [root at flaneur root]# > > > > SELinux and the firewall are already disabled... > > > > Has anyone any suggestions? > > > > J?rn > > -- > > J?rn Hassler > > (joern.hassler at gmx.de) > > > > Icq: 120443734 (huski2) > > -- J?rn Hassler (joern.hassler at gmx.de) Karlsruherstr.43 68723 Schwetzingen Phone: +49-(0)6202-283990 Mobil: +49-(0)178-2174033 Fax: +49-(0)89-1488-201268 Icq: 120443734 (huski2) From d_bradsh at bellsouth.net Sat May 8 20:38:32 2004 From: d_bradsh at bellsouth.net (d_bradsh at bellsouth.net) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:38:32 -0400 Subject: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) Message-ID: <20040508203832.UKNM24544.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Lately I've been reflectig on what the release name of FC2 is going to be. Im excited to see FC2 nearing release. I think that the release name vetting process should follow more closely along the Fedora philosophy. Before Fedora, RedHat came up with the release names. The rightly did this because all development was done in house, and mostly the testing was done in house. Now that Fedora is here, and is more community supported, and tested, why don't we have a place to pick a release name we like from a list of 5 or 6, and vote on what the release name is. The name with the most votes, wins. I think it would be an excellent way for the community at large to have some input, and feel like they are more of a part of Fedora. It also might lead to some really cool names being chosen. Of course all release names would have to be reviewed and passed by the advisory committee before being voted on. I just think it would cool. I alone may be of this opinion. I may not. Anyway the voting tool could be something like /. does, and it or a link could be placed on either: http://fedora.redhat.com or http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/ anyway, hope you all have a nice weekend. :)) From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat May 8 20:46:03 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 22:46:03 +0200 Subject: Problem upgrading from FC2t1 to FC2t3 In-Reply-To: <148.28f79033.2dce403f@aol.com> References: <148.28f79033.2dce403f@aol.com> Message-ID: <1084049157.10410.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 08/05/2004 ? 15:53, PictorGuy at aol.com a ?crit : > I finally got around to installing C2T3 last night and I'm now > getting... > > VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=/" or unkown-block(0,0) > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) > > grub look like this.... > > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img > > I've tried passing LABEL=/dev/sda3 and root=803 but no luck there > either. Any ideas? Try with "root=/dev/sda3" and not "LABEL=/dev/sda3". > Hardware is a D865GBF motherboard with an Adaptec 29160N card in front > of a Seagate drive. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat May 8 20:59:20 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 22:59:20 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm [Failed] In-Reply-To: <20040508112319.24301259.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <1083974171.3902.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040508112319.24301259.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <1084049959.10410.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 08/05/2004 ? 11:23, Michael Schwendt a ?crit : > On Sat, 08 May 2004 01:56:11 +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > $ rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm > > [...] > > + /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot > > File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' > > File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatiassmp/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' > > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.40344 (%install) > > > > > > $ objdump -x /var/tmp/kernel-2.6.5-1.354.fmatias-root/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf | grep ORIGIN > > RPATH $ORIGIN > > > > Any thought ? > > https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1401#c32 > Thanks, I'll try again after removing fedora-rpmdevtools. From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat May 8 21:03:23 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 17:03:23 -0400 Subject: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) In-Reply-To: <20040508203832.UKNM24544.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <20040508203832.UKNM24544.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <604aa791040508140310e3af80@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 8 May 2004 16:38:32 -0400, d_bradsh at bellsouth.net wrote: > > Lately I've been reflectig on what the release name of FC2 is going to be. > Im excited to see FC2 nearing release. I think that the release name vetting > process should follow more closely along the Fedora philosophy. [ rambling deleted ] Nowhere and i mean nowhere does anything documenting the more open fedora project process mention voting as a means by which any decisions are going to get made. http://fedora.redhat.com/about/leadership.html even goes of its way to say that voting is not how things are going to get done. Now of course, there is nothing to stop you for making calls from community for name suggestions, or even running a poll among those names. But nothing in the new Fedora philosophy outlined so far suggests that a general popularity contest is going to be a deciding factor in any decision. This is not debian. I have no problem with making something frivilous and cute like the release name, into a community outreach project via a silly competition or something to get people to suggest names. But I do have a problem binding the final decision to a popularity vote, for it sets a bad precendent in terms of expectations on how the community will get a say on other decision making. I will say it again, this is not debian, and nowhere in the project outline does it say voting of the userbase is a decision making process. -jef"don't assume that open means democratic"spaleta From reader at newsguy.com Sat May 8 21:14:21 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 16:14:21 -0500 Subject: Example up2date `sources' In-Reply-To: <1083944157.14139.173.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> (Colin Charles's message of "Sat, 08 May 2004 01:35:57 +1000") References: <1083944157.14139.173.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: Colin Charles writes: > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 01:26, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Group, >> I've fallen way way behind the testing curve ...still on core1 test2. >> My current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources is way out of date. > > You don't need one - up2date is smart enough to do selection nowadays Do what selection? up2date isn't all that smart here... Installing the latest up2date and using its `souces' file results in: [root] # up2date --list http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: An HTTP error occurred: URL: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info Status Code: 404 Error Message: Not Found From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sat May 8 21:30:46 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:30:46 +0200 Subject: x86_64: latetest kernel update 356 didn't modify grub.conf Message-ID: <1084051845.5229.5.camel@littlePiet> Today I upgraded the kernel [AMD64] to 2.6.5-1.353 and later to 1.356. Both upgrades didn't modify /etc/boot/grub.conf. I had to add the corresponding lines manually. Did someone else had this issue or could someone upgrade without that issue (and something may be broken here). Just in case someone could update without a problem, please could he/she post the kernel command line if it is different from version 327? Thanks Peter From vallstro at algonet.se Sat May 8 21:46:41 2004 From: vallstro at algonet.se (Daniel Vallstrom) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 23:46:41 +0200 (MEST) Subject: enabling multiple apps to access the sound card simultaneously Message-ID: <584580539.1084052801386.JavaMail.webmail@webmail4> Josh Steeper wrote: > I have the exact same problem. > I have an Asus A7N8X motherboard and am using the onboard sound. I have the same problem too with the same motherboard: > cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [nForce2 ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2 NVidia nForce2 at 0xe2087000, irq 9 > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf.dist alias char-major-116-* snd alias sound-service-*-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-*-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-*-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-*-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-*-12 snd-pcm-oss install sound-slot-* /sbin/modprobe snd-card-${MODPROBE_MODULE##sound[_-]slot[_-]} > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sat May 8 22:01:15 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 18:01:15 -0400 Subject: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 References: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083885388.3176.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083914758.2741.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Joakim Arnling wrote: > It's under "Control Key Position". Not very logical maybe. > > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 01:45, Quasar Jarosz wrote: >> Where did you find this in the keyboard-options in gnome? I only see >> options to effect the behavior of the caps-lock key, however there are >> only 4 options, and all of them are just different ways to capitlize. >> >> -Quasar >> >> On Fri, 7 May 2004, Joakim Arnling wrote: >> >> > Isn't it funny, just when you posted the question, you find the answer. >> > The option is to find under the keyboard-options in gnome! >> > >> > fre 2004-05-07 klockan 01.08 skrev Joakim Arnling: >> > > When i include the line: >> > > >> > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" >> > > >> > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the >> > > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. >> > > >> > > This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl >> > > Great. Now, what if you don't use gnome? From shahms at shahms.com Sat May 8 22:11:05 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms E. King) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 15:11:05 -0700 Subject: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 In-Reply-To: References: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083885388.3176.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083914758.2741.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084054265.6775.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 15:01, Neal Becker wrote: > Joakim Arnling wrote: > > > It's under "Control Key Position". Not very logical maybe. > > > > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 01:45, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > >> Where did you find this in the keyboard-options in gnome? I only see > >> options to effect the behavior of the caps-lock key, however there are > >> only 4 options, and all of them are just different ways to capitlize. > >> > >> -Quasar > >> > >> On Fri, 7 May 2004, Joakim Arnling wrote: > >> > >> > Isn't it funny, just when you posted the question, you find the answer. > >> > The option is to find under the keyboard-options in gnome! > >> > > >> > fre 2004-05-07 klockan 01.08 skrev Joakim Arnling: > >> > > When i include the line: > >> > > > >> > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > >> > > > >> > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the > >> > > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. > >> > > > >> > > This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl > >> > > > > Great. Now, what if you don't use gnome? Then you don't have to worry about it. -- --Shahms From gstool at earthlink.net Sat May 8 22:28:30 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 17:28:30 -0500 Subject: Example up2date `sources' In-Reply-To: References: <1083944157.14139.173.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <409D5F0E.4010604@earthlink.net> Harry Putnam wrote: > Colin Charles writes: > > >>On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 01:26, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >>>Group, >>>I've fallen way way behind the testing curve ...still on core1 test2. >>>My current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources is way out of date. >> >>You don't need one - up2date is smart enough to do selection nowadays > > > Do what selection? > > up2date isn't all that smart here... Installing the latest up2date > and using its `souces' file results in: > > [root] # up2date --list > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 > There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: > > An HTTP error occurred: > URL: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info > Status Code: 404 > Error Message: Not Found > > It looks like you managed to update to the up2date that is all set up for running your system as FC2, but perhaps without getting all the other packages that upgrade the system to FC2. My fully updated system gives the same errors as yours, because it is now supposed to be essentially an FC2 system. The background wallpaper is now labeled as Fedora Core 2. Perhaps you could uninstall up2date, download a previous version and install it. Then, run it and get all the package updates that comprise FC2. Or, perhaps all you need to do is replace the sources in the config file. Good Luck. Gerry Tool From gstool at earthlink.net Sat May 8 22:34:56 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 17:34:56 -0500 Subject: No Sound in FC2 Test 3 In-Reply-To: <200405081902.i48J2PAX012559@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200405081902.i48J2PAX012559@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409D6090.2050208@earthlink.net> Bruce P. Morin wrote: > Good Afternoon, > > I have just performed a clean install of FC2 Test 3 and to my dismay there > is no sound. I have a Yamaha DS-XG board which the sound detection program > "system-config-soundcard" identifies and can play the test sound without any > problem. > >>From there I have enabled the sound in "Preferences" but it doesn't work. > Using the same applet I go to sound events and select one, and then I hit > the play button, but no joy. That is until I sign out, the sign out sounds > work. So if I select the "shut down" radio button, I get the sound > associated with that action and then I get the log out sound, but with > anything else I get zip. > > Sound worked under test 2 and FC1. Can anyone shed some light on this? > > Thanks in advance! > This is a known bug which has been discussed on the list and is in bugzilla. Look in the archives under gnome system sounds or some variant to read the posts. Doesn't work yet in a fully updated system that seems to be FC2 or very close to it. Gerry Tool From vamsee_k at students.iiit.net Sat May 8 22:40:57 2004 From: vamsee_k at students.iiit.net (G. Vamsee Krishna) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 04:10:57 +0530 (IST) Subject: Konqueror won't remember passwords Message-ID: Hello, I'm using Fedora Core2 test1 with Linux 2.6.5. The problem I'm facing is, konqueror won't remember passwords when I access SMB shares from the network. For example, when I access a NT box with //PC/d$, it asks for a password and displays the shared folders. Now, it asks for the password again and again for every directory I want to access. Is there any way to make konqueror remember the password? The password is use is very long - 22 characters, and I don't want to type it everytime I open a folder. Thanks in advance. regards, GVK -- Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance From PictorGuy at aol.com Sat May 8 23:15:16 2004 From: PictorGuy at aol.com (PictorGuy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 19:15:16 EDT Subject: Problem upgrading from FC2t1 to FC2t3 Message-ID: In a message dated 5/8/2004 4:46:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, feliciano.matias at free.fr writes: Try with "root=/dev/sda3" and not "LABEL=/dev/sda3". Ooops.... yeah... that's what I meant. That didn't work either. I guess I need to get some rest. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jurgen at botz.org Sat May 8 23:15:48 2004 From: jurgen at botz.org (Jurgen Botz) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 16:15:48 -0700 Subject: CD ripping is broken on USB drives Message-ID: <409D6A24.6050808@botz.org> As best I can tell this isn't unique to me... but if anyone /can/ use cdparanoia or grip on a USB CD drive with kernel 327 or later, please let us know. The underlying cause, as I've reported before, seems to be that the sg driver currently does not work with USB storage devices. It worked in 305, it doesn't in 327 onward (I don't have any kernels from in between those available). The symptom is that sg doesn't even see the devices and doesn't report them when you load it. Pardon the cross-posting, but I've reported this in bugzilla and on the devel list before and there hasn't been any ack of this problem, which I think it pretty critical... I know arjanv thinks sg should die, but while some of its uses may be marginal, CD ripping is not... I mean, is there anyone who /doesn't/ rip their audio CDs these days? It would be pretty bad if FC2 couldn't rip on USB drives. :j From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sun May 9 00:07:50 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 20:07:50 -0400 Subject: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 References: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083885388.3176.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083914758.2741.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084054265.6775.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Shahms E. King wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 15:01, Neal Becker wrote: >> Joakim Arnling wrote: >> >> > It's under "Control Key Position". Not very logical maybe. >> > >> > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 01:45, Quasar Jarosz wrote: >> >> Where did you find this in the keyboard-options in gnome? I only see >> >> options to effect the behavior of the caps-lock key, however there are >> >> only 4 options, and all of them are just different ways to capitlize. >> >> >> >> -Quasar >> >> >> >> On Fri, 7 May 2004, Joakim Arnling wrote: >> >> >> >> > Isn't it funny, just when you posted the question, you find the >> >> > answer. The option is to find under the keyboard-options in gnome! >> >> > >> >> > fre 2004-05-07 klockan 01.08 skrev Joakim Arnling: >> >> > > When i include the line: >> >> > > >> >> > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" >> >> > > >> >> > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the >> >> > > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. >> >> > > >> >> > > This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl >> >> > > >> >> Great. Now, what if you don't use gnome? > > Then you don't have to worry about it. Are you sure? I used to use the keyboard layouts in kde to do this, but since FC2T2 keyboard layouts seem to have disappeared - there are no choices on the menus. So I had to add the above option to xorg.conf. If that no longer works, that would just suck. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sun May 9 00:10:40 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 20:10:40 -0400 Subject: k3b - where is k3bsetup? Message-ID: I installed k3b from rawhide. I don't see any k3bsetup. Was it removed? k3b recommends I used k3bsetup to suid cdrecord. From trey at fastmail.fm Sat May 8 20:22:19 2004 From: trey at fastmail.fm (Trey Sizemore) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 20:22:19 +0000 Subject: Apt repositories for unstable packages Message-ID: <1084047739.2592.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> The following is my sources list for apt and I'm currently using FC2T3 (as generated by 'apt-get mirror-select'): # DO NOT EDIT ME! Use "apt-get mirror-select" instead. # Fedora Core (Indiana University, Bloomington Indiana, USA) rpm http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os updates rpm-src http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os updates # Fedora Core (University of Southern California, USA) rpm http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os updates rpm-src http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os updates # Fedora Core (Kernel.org, San Francisco California, USA) rpm http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os updates rpm-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os updates # Fedora Extras (Indiana University, Bloomington Indiana, USA) rpm http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 stable rpm-src http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 stable # Fedora Extras (University of Southern California, USA) rpm http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 stable rpm-src http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 stable # Fedora Extras (Kernel.org, San Francisco California, USA) rpm http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 stable rpm-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 stable # Macromedia (USA West, University of California at Santa Cruz) rpm http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/macromedia/apt/ fedora/2 macromedia rpm-src http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/macromedia/apt/ fedora/2 macromedia # Macromedia (USA East, Rutgers University, New Jersey) rpm http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/macromedia/apt/ fedora/2 macromedia rpm-src http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/macromedia/apt/ fedora/2 macromedia How would I go about changing this (and I guess I can only do this by generating an /etc/apt.conf file with the relative info) so that I can have the latest, cutting edge packages (mozilla 1.7, evolution 1.5.x, etc.)? Are there mirror lists for such? Thanks. From wfrazee at wynweb.net Sun May 9 00:28:48 2004 From: wfrazee at wynweb.net (Wayne Frazee) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 18:28:48 -0600 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates Message-ID: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> Fedora Core linux build is supposed to be a ground for enthusiasts to test the latest software for later possible integration into the Redhat Enterprise Linux products and to provide a distro on the "cutting edge" of application technology. In particular note, I was interested in MySQL 4.0. Why has the latest mysql not made it into updates for FC1 and into the FC2 tree? (Or has it, and I have just missed it? Its not on the package list on fedora.redhat.com and I have yet to see it to turn up in yum or up2date...) -- -------------------- Wayne S. Frazee "Any sufficiently developed bug is indistinguishable from a feature." From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun May 9 00:37:40 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 20:37:40 -0400 Subject: 3 q's if I can recall them Message-ID: <200405082037.40625.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings; 1. I don't think I'm running the right video driver on that shop box, a 233mhz P2, whose logon says its a Diamond SpeedStar Viper 330 with 4 megs of ram. But linux almost makes the rage128 driver work? Who knows what is the right driver for that old video card? 2. I've added a couple of ISA bussed parallel port cards intended for machine controls to it, but they aren't found by isapnp. Are there any tools I could use to discover where these totally dumb cards are at least addressed at? 3. The bios says the keyboard and a PS2 mouse are found and configured. When gpm starts, it says no mouse was detected, and I've no mouse on the console, but it works just fine in X. I'd like to have a console with a mouse, what do I look at and adjust? Its a 5 button GE optical wheel. This is all on FC2t3. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From michael at endbracket.net Sun May 9 00:37:38 2004 From: michael at endbracket.net (Michael Wardle) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 10:37:38 +1000 Subject: Volume control applet doesn't change when muted? In-Reply-To: <409D3C36.6050804@khmer.cc> References: <409C33EA.40607@khmer.cc> <1083983680.2611.5.camel@pepper.localdomain> <409D3C36.6050804@khmer.cc> Message-ID: <1084063058.2611.35.camel@pepper.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 05:59, Vibol Hou wrote: > Interesting, I'm running the same version of gnome-applet you are. According to the bug just referenced, this is a Bluecurve icon problem, but I'm using a different icon theme, which obviously explains why things work for me. :-) From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sun May 9 00:47:36 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 20:47:36 -0400 Subject: yum still doesn't work correctly on x86_64 Message-ID: <200405082047.37071.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Just to let you know, the earlier problem I, and others, reported on x86_64 with yum are still present. For example: yum -c yum.conf update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.91 - x86_64 - Base Server: development Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package samba needs samba-common = 0:3.0.2a, this is not available. Package xorg-x11-libs needs xorg-x11-libs-data = 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9, this is not available. Package glibc needs glibc-common = 2.3.3-18, this is not available. The packages it is complaining about are ones that have both i386 and x86_64 versions. I'm sure that's not a coincidence. If I screw around with rpm --erase --justdb enought, I can satisfy yum and it will preform the update. BTW, rpm --erase --justdb isn't documented! Clearly, yum is confused by the multiple packages. Interestingly, if I erase enought stuff, yum will go ahead and do the update, and will replace all the stuff I erased in the process. From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun May 9 00:55:28 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 02:55:28 +0200 Subject: k3b - where is k3bsetup? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040509025528.0c7e620e.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 08 May 2004 20:10:40 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > I installed k3b from rawhide. I don't see any k3bsetup. Was it removed? > k3b recommends I used k3bsetup to suid cdrecord. Does k3b recommend that? What does the message say? Does k3b not work for you? -- Fedora Core release 1.92 (FC2 Test 3) - Linux 2.6.5-1.356 From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sun May 9 00:58:05 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 21:58:05 -0300 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> Message-ID: <409D821D.8080003@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Wayne Frazee wrote: >Fedora Core linux build is supposed to be a ground for enthusiasts to >test the latest software for later possible integration into the Redhat >Enterprise Linux products and to provide a distro on the "cutting edge" >of application technology. > >In particular note, I was interested in MySQL 4.0. > >Why has the latest mysql not made it into updates for FC1 and into the >FC2 tree? (Or has it, and I have just missed it? Its not on the >package list on fedora.redhat.com and I have yet to see it to turn up in >yum or up2date...) > > Check the archives on fedora-list for the full history.. License issues keep it away from Fedora.. -- Pedro Macedo From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sun May 9 00:59:17 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 20:59:17 -0400 Subject: k3b - where is k3bsetup? In-Reply-To: <20040509025528.0c7e620e.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <20040509025528.0c7e620e.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <200405082059.17103.ndbecker2@verizon.net> On Saturday 08 May 2004 08:55 pm, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 08 May 2004 20:10:40 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > > I installed k3b from rawhide. I don't see any k3bsetup. Was it removed? > > k3b recommends I used k3bsetup to suid cdrecord. > > Does k3b recommend that? What does the message say? > Does k3b not work for you? > > -- > Fedora Core release 1.92 (FC2 Test 3) - Linux 2.6.5-1.356 When I start k3b I get this box: cdrecord does not run with root privileges It is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root privileges. Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases the overall stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows changing the size of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems could be solved this way. This is also true when using SuSE's resmgr. Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem. cdrdao does not run with root privileges It is highly recommended to configure cdrdao to run with root privileges to increase the overall stability of the burning process. Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem. In the past I have built k3b myself, and it did include k3bsetup and offered to run it for me. This seems to have been removed. From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun May 9 01:17:02 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 03:17:02 +0200 Subject: k3b - where is k3bsetup? In-Reply-To: <200405082059.17103.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <20040509025528.0c7e620e.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <200405082059.17103.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040509031702.24653c02.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 8 May 2004 20:59:17 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > When I start k3b I get this box: > > cdrecord does not run with root privileges > It is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root privileges. > Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases the overall > stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows changing the size > of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems could be solved this way. > This is also true when using SuSE's resmgr. > Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem. > cdrdao does not run with root privileges > It is highly recommended to configure cdrdao to run with root privileges to > increase the overall stability of the burning process. > Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem. k3b is built without k3bsetup deliberately. It's interesting that k3b suggests running k3bsetup nevertheless. > In the past I have built k3b myself, and it did include k3bsetup and offered > to run it for me. This seems to have been removed. Yes, the fedora.us package of k3b also includes k3bsetup to avoid complaints of creating "incomplete" packages. What I'd like to know is whether k3b works for you without making cdrecord/cdrdao setuid root? Or is there any reason to run those tools with superuser privileges? From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 9 01:21:20 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 03:21:20 +0200 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> Message-ID: <1084065680.953.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 02:28, Wayne Frazee a ?crit : > Fedora Core linux build is supposed to be a ground for enthusiasts to > test the latest software for later possible integration into the Redhat > Enterprise Linux products and to provide a distro on the "cutting edge" > of application technology. > > In particular note, I was interested in MySQL 4.0. > Problem with the license of libmysqlclient. MySQL AB will fix this issue in the near futur (AFAIK). > Why has the latest mysql not made it into updates for FC1 and into the > FC2 tree? (Or has it, and I have just missed it? Its not on the > package list on fedora.redhat.com and I have yet to see it to turn up in > yum or up2date...) > -- > -------------------- > Wayne S. Frazee > "Any sufficiently developed bug is indistinguishable from a feature." > From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sun May 9 01:33:29 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 21:33:29 -0400 Subject: k3b - where is k3bsetup? References: <20040509025528.0c7e620e.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <200405082059.17103.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <20040509031702.24653c02.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 8 May 2004 20:59:17 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > >> When I start k3b I get this box: >> >> cdrecord does not run with root privileges >> It is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root >> privileges. Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases >> the overall stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows >> changing the size of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems >> could be solved this way. This is also true when using SuSE's resmgr. >> Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem. >> cdrdao does not run with root privileges >> It is highly recommended to configure cdrdao to run with root privileges >> to increase the overall stability of the burning process. >> Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem. > > k3b is built without k3bsetup deliberately. It's interesting that k3b > suggests running k3bsetup nevertheless. > >> In the past I have built k3b myself, and it did include k3bsetup and >> offered >> to run it for me. This seems to have been removed. > > Yes, the fedora.us package of k3b also includes k3bsetup to avoid > complaints of creating "incomplete" packages. > > What I'd like to know is whether k3b works for you without making > cdrecord/cdrdao setuid root? Or is there any reason to run those tools > with superuser privileges? > I haven't had a problem - but I have a very fast machine. The reason is, like it said. I suppose on older hardware it might be important. Also, my burner has overburn protection. There is also the minor issue that it doesn't display buffer fill, I don't know if this is related or not. From michal at harddata.com Sun May 9 01:33:54 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 19:33:54 -0600 Subject: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 In-Reply-To: ; from ndbecker2@verizon.net on Sat, May 08, 2004 at 08:07:50PM -0400 References: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083885388.3176.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083914758.2741.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084054265.6775.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040508193354.A22551@mail.harddata.com> On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 08:07:50PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Shahms E. King wrote: > > > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 15:01, Neal Becker wrote: > >> Joakim Arnling wrote: > >> > >> >> > > When i include the line: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > >> >> > > > >> >> > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the > >> >> > > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. > >> >> > > > >> > >> Great. Now, what if you don't use gnome? > > > > Then you don't have to worry about it. > > If that no longer works, that would just suck. I am not sure in what circumstances the above line from xorg.conf fails to work but so far it works for me (currently xorg-x11-6.7.0-2). Maybe when you are starting to play with a keyboard preferences in gnome then they override that option? I definitely agree with a "would just suck" opinion. :-) Michal From elitrix87 at comcast.net Sun May 9 01:35:25 2004 From: elitrix87 at comcast.net (elitrix87) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 21:35:25 -0400 Subject: fedora core 2 test 3 yum.conf Message-ID: <1084066525.5172.2.camel@Shea01> i just updated to the newer version of yum and forgot to backup my original yum.conf. now i get a ton of http request errors when trying to update/install. can someone please post the _original_ /etc/yum.conf file that comes with FC2 Test 3. i cannot find this file on the net, only the yum.conf for FC1 is available. thank you From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sun May 9 01:43:45 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 21:43:45 -0400 Subject: KDE app icon issues & KMail crashing In-Reply-To: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084067024.3914.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've noticed a number of bugs related to the KDE desktop and KDE apps in Gnome. Some are very basic bugs. 1) When in a Gnome desktop, I'm noticing in apps like Konqueror and Kopete that basic menu icons don't appear. I have to hover over them for dialog to pop up to establish what they are. It makes the apps essentially unusable. Are others seeing this? The various updates over the past days since Test 3 release have not resolved this. 2) KMail also still gives a Signal 11 and crashes on start-up, which has forced me over to Evolution. 3) If I start in to the KDE desktop, the up2date icon is not transparent and, so it doesn't blend in to a KDE transparent panel. I've filed this in bugzilla and gotten a response from redhat, but I'm noting it here to underscore a pattern. Is this Redhat's way of forcing us over to Gnome and its apps? ;) With a general release so close at hand, are KDE issues being given any priority? Rory From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sun May 9 01:52:25 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 21:52:25 -0400 Subject: up2date issues in latest upgrade In-Reply-To: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084067544.3914.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've noticed similar problems after updating up2date today. I had 143 updates noted this morning. Two were up2date and gnome up2date. As usual, I updated them first, with the intent of coming back and updating the remaining 141 packages, afterwards. However, after I updated up2date, it said I had no packages left to update. Check update kept coming back as "No updates available." However, from the console, when I did: yum check-update yum update ... I got a large number of packages to update. So, something funky happened in the last up2date release. Are others seeing this? Rory Toronto, Canada >up2date isn't all that smart here... Installing the latest up2date >and using its `souces' file results in: >[root] # up2date --list >http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 >http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 >There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message >was: From njm at njm.org Sun May 9 02:14:52 2004 From: njm at njm.org (N Joshua Madan) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 22:14:52 -0400 Subject: test3 kernels and network devices Message-ID: <409D941C.5070408@njm.org> I'm not sure if I should file this as a bug or not. I'm running test3 on a Sharp Actius UM32W which has both a 'Realtek|RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+' ethernet card and an 'Intersil Corporation|Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset' wireless card built in. With test1 & test2 the cards were detected as eth0 for the wireless and eth1 for the ethernet, both cards worked. Starting with kernel 2.6.5-1.327 kudzu reports a Realtek card as eth1, Intersil Corporation|Prism 2.5 as eth2, nothing for eth0. At boot though the Intersil Corporation card is detected as eth0 and running iwconfig shows a wireless card as eth0. Additionally at boot it looks like the kernel confuses eth0 and eth1 (note dmesg output below). The ethernet card is working, the wireless card does not (either as eth0 or eth1). any thoughts or should i bugzilla this ? dmsg output: orinoco.c 0.13e (David Gibson and others) orinoco_pci.c 0.13e (David Gibson & Jean Tourrilhes ) Detected Orinoco/Prism2 PCI device at 0000:02:03.0, mem:0xE0500000 to 0xE0500FFF -> 0x2278e000, irq:3 Reset done............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; Clear Reset........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; pci_cor : reg = 0x0 - FFFC1A19 - FFFC1825 divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: Station identity 001f:0003:0001:0004 eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 1.4.3 eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key eth0: MAC address 00:D0:59:C9:D3:E6 eth0: Station name "Prism I" eth0: ready 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27 divert: allocating divert_blk for eth1 eth1: RealTek RTL8139 at 0x3000, 08:00:1f:2d:79:94, IRQ 9 eth1: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' divert: freeing divert_blk for eth0 divert: freeing divert_blk for eth1 ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team ip_conntrack version 2.1 (4028 buckets, 32224 max) - 296 bytes per conntrack 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27 divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0x3000, 08:00:1f:2d:79:94, IRQ 9 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' eth1: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 orinoco.c 0.13e (David Gibson and others) orinoco_pci.c 0.13e (David Gibson & Jean Tourrilhes ) Detected Orinoco/Prism2 PCI device at 0000:02:03.0, mem:0xE0500000 to 0xE0500FFF -> 0x227bc000, irq:3 Reset done............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; Clear Reset........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; pci_cor : reg = 0x0 - FFFD1360 - FFFD116C divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 eth0: Station identity 001f:0003:0001:0004 eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 1.4.3 eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key eth0: MAC address 00:D0:59:C9:D3:E6 eth0: Station name "Prism I" eth0: ready From aoliva at redhat.com Sun May 9 02:24:03 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 08 May 2004 23:24:03 -0300 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: On May 8, 2004, Jason Knight wrote: > I think it is seriously time to consider someone writing a yum > frontend that could be included with the standard fedora desktop. Err... In what sense is up2date not that? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From mike at netlyncs.com Sun May 9 02:32:32 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 21:32:32 -0500 Subject: RHN Applet freezes Message-ID: <1084069951.2326.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> I noticed that after a reboot or restarting the rhn_applet, that it initially works, but after the computer has been running a bit, it freezes. As in you can't left or right click on it and it doesn't change to show updates are available. This is FC2T3 w/latest rawhide updates. Anyone else seeing this? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From d_bradsh at bellsouth.net Sun May 9 02:37:47 2004 From: d_bradsh at bellsouth.net (d_bradsh at bellsouth.net) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 22:37:47 -0400 Subject: 1. Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) Message-ID: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> On Sat, 8 May 2004 17:03:23 -0400 > From: Jeff Spaleta This is not debian. I know this isnt debian. Im not saying that it is, or that i want to emulate anything they are doing. I guess i didnt clearly state that the leadership of fedora would retain control. In essence they would just let us have a little say in a complex web of constol/power structure that is already in place. How can community input be a bad precedent when the final say is up to redhat? How can community expression be bad when the community *Has to know that the project leaders are in control? Also, I said the voting thing was just an idea. You dont accomplish anything by belittling someone who has a different opinion than you. The name voting, may be silly, and it may be cute, but it also is the right thing to do as community outreach. If it isnt, then just dont do it,. Dont attack me. like i said: have a nice weekend. i will stu now. > > From: fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com > Date: 2004/05/08 Sat PM 08:47:46 EDT > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 56 > > Send fedora-test-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-test-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of fedora-test-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) (Jeff Spaleta) > 2. Re: Example up2date `sources' (Harry Putnam) > 3. x86_64: latetest kernel update 356 didn't modify grub.conf > (Peter Boy) > 4. Re: enabling multiple apps to access the sound card > simultaneously (Daniel Vallstrom) > 5. Re: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 (Neal Becker) > 6. Re: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 (Shahms E. King) > 7. Re: Example up2date `sources' (Gerry Tool) > 8. Re: No Sound in FC2 Test 3 (Gerry Tool) > 9. Konqueror won't remember passwords (G. Vamsee Krishna) > 10. Re: Problem upgrading from FC2t1 to FC2t3 (PictorGuy at aol.com) > 11. CD ripping is broken on USB drives (Jurgen Botz) > 12. Re: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 (Neal Becker) > 13. k3b - where is k3bsetup? (Neal Becker) > 14. Apt repositories for unstable packages (Trey Sizemore) > 15. MySQL and Apache Updates (Wayne Frazee) > 16. 3 q's if I can recall them (Gene Heskett) > 17. Re: Volume control applet doesn't change when muted? > (Michael Wardle) > 18. yum still doesn't work correctly on x86_64 (Neal Becker) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 17:03:23 -0400 > From: Jeff Spaleta > Subject: Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <604aa791040508140310e3af80 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sat, 8 May 2004 16:38:32 -0400, d_bradsh at bellsouth.net > wrote: > > > > Lately I've been reflectig on what the release name of FC2 is going to be. > Im excited to see FC2 nearing release. I think that the release name vetting > > process should follow more closely along the Fedora philosophy. > > [ rambling deleted ] > > Nowhere and i mean nowhere does anything documenting the more open > fedora project process mention voting as a means by which any > decisions are going to get made. > http://fedora.redhat.com/about/leadership.html > even goes of its way to say that voting is not how things are going to > get done. > > Now of course, there is nothing to stop you for making calls from > community for name suggestions, or even running a poll among those > names. But nothing in the new Fedora philosophy outlined so far > suggests that a general popularity contest is going to be a deciding > factor in any decision. This is not debian. > > I have no problem with making something frivilous and cute like the > release name, into a community outreach project via a silly > competition or something to get people to suggest names. But I do have > a problem binding the final decision to a popularity vote, for it sets > a bad precendent in terms of expectations on how the community will > get a say on other decision making. I will say it again, this is not > debian, and nowhere in the project outline does it say voting of the > userbase is a decision making process. > > -jef"don't assume that open means democratic"spaleta > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 16:14:21 -0500 > From: Harry Putnam > Subject: Re: Example up2date `sources' > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Colin Charles writes: > > > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 01:26, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Group, > >> I've fallen way way behind the testing curve ...still on core1 test2. > >> My current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources is way out of date. > > > > You don't need one - up2date is smart enough to do selection nowadays > > Do what selection? > > up2date isn't all that smart here... Installing the latest up2date > and using its `souces' file results in: > > [root] # up2date --list > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 > There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: > > An HTTP error occurred: > URL: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info > Status Code: 404 > Error Message: Not Found > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:30:46 +0200 > From: Peter Boy > Subject: x86_64: latetest kernel update 356 didn't modify grub.conf > To: Fedora Test List > Message-ID: <1084051845.5229.5.camel at littlePiet> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Today I upgraded the kernel [AMD64] to 2.6.5-1.353 and later to 1.356. > Both upgrades didn't modify /etc/boot/grub.conf. I had to add the > corresponding lines manually. Did someone else had this issue or could > someone upgrade without that issue (and something may be broken here). > > Just in case someone could update without a problem, please could he/she > post the kernel command line if it is different from version 327? > > Thanks > > > Peter > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 23:46:41 +0200 (MEST) > From: Daniel Vallstrom > Subject: Re: enabling multiple apps to access the sound card > simultaneously > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <584580539.1084052801386.JavaMail.webmail at webmail4> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Josh Steeper wrote: > > > I have the exact same problem. > > > I have an Asus A7N8X motherboard and am using the onboard sound. > > I have the same problem too with the same motherboard: > > > cat /proc/asound/cards > 0 [nForce2 ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2 > NVidia nForce2 at 0xe2087000, irq 9 > > > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf.dist > alias char-major-116-* snd > alias sound-service-*-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-*-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-*-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-*-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-*-12 snd-pcm-oss > install sound-slot-* /sbin/modprobe snd-card-${MODPROBE_MODULE##sound[_-]slot[_-]} > > > grep snd /etc/modprobe.conf > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 18:01:15 -0400 > From: Neal Becker > Subject: Re: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Joakim Arnling wrote: > > > It's under "Control Key Position". Not very logical maybe. > > > > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 01:45, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > >> Where did you find this in the keyboard-options in gnome? I only see > >> options to effect the behavior of the caps-lock key, however there are > >> only 4 options, and all of them are just different ways to capitlize. > >> > >> -Quasar > >> > >> On Fri, 7 May 2004, Joakim Arnling wrote: > >> > >> > Isn't it funny, just when you posted the question, you find the answer. > >> > The option is to find under the keyboard-options in gnome! > >> > > >> > fre 2004-05-07 klockan 01.08 skrev Joakim Arnling: > >> > > When i include the line: > >> > > > >> > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > >> > > > >> > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the > >> > > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. > >> > > > >> > > This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl > >> > > > > Great. Now, what if you don't use gnome? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 15:11:05 -0700 > From: "Shahms E. King" > Subject: Re: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <1084054265.6775.32.camel at localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 15:01, Neal Becker wrote: > > Joakim Arnling wrote: > > > > > It's under "Control Key Position". Not very logical maybe. > > > > > > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 01:45, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > >> Where did you find this in the keyboard-options in gnome? I only see > > >> options to effect the behavior of the caps-lock key, however there are > > >> only 4 options, and all of them are just different ways to capitlize. > > >> > > >> -Quasar > > >> > > >> On Fri, 7 May 2004, Joakim Arnling wrote: > > >> > > >> > Isn't it funny, just when you posted the question, you find the answer. > > >> > The option is to find under the keyboard-options in gnome! > > >> > > > >> > fre 2004-05-07 klockan 01.08 skrev Joakim Arnling: > > >> > > When i include the line: > > >> > > > > >> > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > > >> > > > > >> > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the > > >> > > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. > > >> > > > > >> > > This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl > > >> > > > > > > Great. Now, what if you don't use gnome? > > Then you don't have to worry about it. > -- > --Shahms > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 17:28:30 -0500 > From: Gerry Tool > Subject: Re: Example up2date `sources' > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <409D5F0E.4010604 at earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Harry Putnam wrote: > > Colin Charles writes: > > > > > >>On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 01:26, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> > >>>Group, > >>>I've fallen way way behind the testing curve ...still on core1 test2. > >>>My current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources is way out of date. > >> > >>You don't need one - up2date is smart enough to do selection nowadays > > > > > > Do what selection? > > > > up2date isn't all that smart here... Installing the latest up2date > > and using its `souces' file results in: > > > > [root] # up2date --list > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 > > There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: > > > > An HTTP error occurred: > > URL: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info > > Status Code: 404 > > Error Message: Not Found > > > > > It looks like you managed to update to the up2date that is all set up > for running your system as FC2, but perhaps without getting all the > other packages that upgrade the system to FC2. My fully updated system > gives the same errors as yours, because it is now supposed to be > essentially an FC2 system. The background wallpaper is now labeled as > Fedora Core 2. > > Perhaps you could uninstall up2date, download a previous version and > install it. Then, run it and get all the package updates that comprise > FC2. Or, perhaps all you need to do is replace the sources in the > config file. > > Good Luck. > > Gerry Tool > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 17:34:56 -0500 > From: Gerry Tool > Subject: Re: No Sound in FC2 Test 3 > To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com, For testers of Fedora Core development > releases > Message-ID: <409D6090.2050208 at earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Bruce P. Morin wrote: > > Good Afternoon, > > > > I have just performed a clean install of FC2 Test 3 and to my dismay there > > is no sound. I have a Yamaha DS-XG board which the sound detection program > > "system-config-soundcard" identifies and can play the test sound without any > > problem. > > > >>From there I have enabled the sound in "Preferences" but it doesn't work. > > Using the same applet I go to sound events and select one, and then I hit > > the play button, but no joy. That is until I sign out, the sign out sounds > > work. So if I select the "shut down" radio button, I get the sound > > associated with that action and then I get the log out sound, but with > > anything else I get zip. > > > > Sound worked under test 2 and FC1. Can anyone shed some light on this? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > This is a known bug which has been discussed on the list and is in > bugzilla. Look in the archives under gnome system sounds or some > variant to read the posts. > > Doesn't work yet in a fully updated system that seems to be FC2 or very > close to it. > > Gerry Tool > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 04:10:57 +0530 (IST) > From: "G. Vamsee Krishna" > Subject: Konqueror won't remember passwords > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Hello, > I'm using Fedora Core2 test1 with Linux 2.6.5. The problem I'm facing is, > konqueror won't remember passwords when I access SMB shares from the > network. For example, when I access a NT box with //PC/d$, it asks for a > password and displays the shared folders. Now, it asks for the password > again and again for every directory I want to access. Is there any way to > make konqueror remember the password? The password is use is very long - > 22 characters, and I don't want to type it everytime I open a folder. > Thanks in advance. > > regards, > GVK > -- > Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 19:15:16 EDT > From: PictorGuy at aol.com > Subject: Re: Problem upgrading from FC2t1 to FC2t3 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > In a message dated 5/8/2004 4:46:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > feliciano.matias at free.fr writes: > Try with "root=/dev/sda3" and not "LABEL=/dev/sda3". > Ooops.... yeah... that's what I meant. That didn't work either. > > I guess I need to get some rest. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: /archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20040508/009a0a3d/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 16:15:48 -0700 > From: Jurgen Botz > Subject: CD ripping is broken on USB drives > To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core > > Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <409D6A24.6050808 at botz.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > As best I can tell this isn't unique to me... but if anyone /can/ > use cdparanoia or grip on a USB CD drive with kernel 327 or later, > please let us know. > > The underlying cause, as I've reported before, seems to be that the > sg driver currently does not work with USB storage devices. It worked > in 305, it doesn't in 327 onward (I don't have any kernels from in > between those available). The symptom is that sg doesn't even see > the devices and doesn't report them when you load it. > > Pardon the cross-posting, but I've reported this in bugzilla and on > the devel list before and there hasn't been any ack of this problem, > which I think it pretty critical... I know arjanv thinks sg should > die, but while some of its uses may be marginal, CD ripping is not... > I mean, is there anyone who /doesn't/ rip their audio CDs these days? > It would be pretty bad if FC2 couldn't rip on USB drives. > > :j > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 20:07:50 -0400 > From: Neal Becker > Subject: Re: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Shahms E. King wrote: > > > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 15:01, Neal Becker wrote: > >> Joakim Arnling wrote: > >> > >> > It's under "Control Key Position". Not very logical maybe. > >> > > >> > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 01:45, Quasar Jarosz wrote: > >> >> Where did you find this in the keyboard-options in gnome? I only see > >> >> options to effect the behavior of the caps-lock key, however there are > >> >> only 4 options, and all of them are just different ways to capitlize. > >> >> > >> >> -Quasar > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, 7 May 2004, Joakim Arnling wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Isn't it funny, just when you posted the question, you find the > >> >> > answer. The option is to find under the keyboard-options in gnome! > >> >> > > >> >> > fre 2004-05-07 klockan 01.08 skrev Joakim Arnling: > >> >> > > When i include the line: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > >> >> > > > >> >> > > in my xorg.conf, the caps-lock is replaced by ctrl during the > >> >> > > login-screen, but when gnome is running, it's caps-lock as before. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > This is annoying because i'm used to have caps-lock as ctrl > >> >> > > > >> > >> Great. Now, what if you don't use gnome? > > > > Then you don't have to worry about it. > > Are you sure? I used to use the keyboard layouts in kde to do this, but > since FC2T2 keyboard layouts seem to have disappeared - there are no > choices on the menus. So I had to add the above option to xorg.conf. If > that no longer works, that would just suck. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 20:10:40 -0400 > From: Neal Becker > Subject: k3b - where is k3bsetup? > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I installed k3b from rawhide. I don't see any k3bsetup. Was it removed? > k3b recommends I used k3bsetup to suid cdrecord. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 20:22:19 +0000 > From: Trey Sizemore > Subject: Apt repositories for unstable packages > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <1084047739.2592.3.camel at localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > The following is my sources list for apt and I'm currently using FC2T3 > (as generated by 'apt-get mirror-select'): > > # DO NOT EDIT ME! Use "apt-get mirror-select" instead. > # Fedora Core (Indiana University, Bloomington Indiana, USA) > rpm http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os > updates > rpm-src http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 > os updates > > # Fedora Core (University of Southern California, USA) > rpm http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os > updates > rpm-src http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 > os updates > > # Fedora Core (Kernel.org, San Francisco California, USA) > rpm http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os > updates > rpm-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 os > updates > > # Fedora Extras (Indiana University, Bloomington Indiana, USA) > rpm http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 > stable > rpm-src http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 > stable > > # Fedora Extras (University of Southern California, USA) > rpm http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 > stable > rpm-src http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 > stable > > # Fedora Extras (Kernel.org, San Francisco California, USA) > rpm http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 stable > rpm-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/ fedora/1.92/i386 > stable > > # Macromedia (USA West, University of California at Santa Cruz) > rpm http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/macromedia/apt/ fedora/2 macromedia > rpm-src http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/macromedia/apt/ fedora/2 macromedia > > # Macromedia (USA East, Rutgers University, New Jersey) > rpm http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/macromedia/apt/ fedora/2 macromedia > rpm-src http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/macromedia/apt/ fedora/2 macromedia > > How would I go about changing this (and I guess I can only do this by > generating an /etc/apt.conf file with the relative info) so that I can > have the latest, cutting edge packages (mozilla 1.7, evolution 1.5.x, > etc.)? Are there mirror lists for such? > > Thanks. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 18:28:48 -0600 > From: Wayne Frazee > Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <1084062528.15642.39.camel at wfrazee.serveftp.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Fedora Core linux build is supposed to be a ground for enthusiasts to > test the latest software for later possible integration into the Redhat > Enterprise Linux products and to provide a distro on the "cutting edge" > of application technology. > > In particular note, I was interested in MySQL 4.0. > > Why has the latest mysql not made it into updates for FC1 and into the > FC2 tree? (Or has it, and I have just missed it? Its not on the > package list on fedora.redhat.com and I have yet to see it to turn up in > yum or up2date...) > -- > -------------------- > Wayne S. Frazee > "Any sufficiently developed bug is indistinguishable from a feature." > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 20:37:40 -0400 > From: Gene Heskett > Subject: 3 q's if I can recall them > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <200405082037.40625.gene.heskett at verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Greetings; > > 1. I don't think I'm running the right video driver on that shop box, > a 233mhz P2, whose logon says its a Diamond SpeedStar Viper 330 with > 4 megs of ram. But linux almost makes the rage128 driver work? Who > knows what is the right driver for that old video card? > > 2. I've added a couple of ISA bussed parallel port cards intended for > machine controls to it, but they aren't found by isapnp. > > Are there any tools I could use to discover where these totally dumb > cards are at least addressed at? > > 3. The bios says the keyboard and a PS2 mouse are found and > configured. When gpm starts, it says no mouse was detected, and I've > no mouse on the console, but it works just fine in X. I'd like to > have a console with a mouse, what do I look at and adjust? Its a 5 > button GE optical wheel. > > This is all on FC2t3. > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly > Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message > by Gene Heskett are: > Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 10:37:38 +1000 > From: Michael Wardle > Subject: Re: Volume control applet doesn't change when muted? > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: <1084063058.2611.35.camel at pepper.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 05:59, Vibol Hou wrote: > > Interesting, I'm running the same version of gnome-applet you are. > > According to the bug just referenced, this is a Bluecurve icon problem, > but I'm using a different icon theme, which obviously explains why > things work for me. :-) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 20:47:36 -0400 > From: Neal Becker > Subject: yum still doesn't work correctly on x86_64 > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <200405082047.37071.ndbecker2 at verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Just to let you know, the earlier problem I, and others, reported on x86_64 > with yum are still present. > > For example: > yum -c yum.conf update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.91 - x86_64 - Base > Server: development > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package samba needs samba-common = 0:3.0.2a, this is not available. > Package xorg-x11-libs needs xorg-x11-libs-data = 0.0.6.6-0.0.2004_03_11.9, > this is not available. > Package glibc needs glibc-common = 2.3.3-18, this is not available. > > The packages it is complaining about are ones that have both i386 and x86_64 > versions. I'm sure that's not a coincidence. > > If I screw around with rpm --erase --justdb enought, I can satisfy yum and it > will preform the update. BTW, rpm --erase --justdb isn't documented! > > Clearly, yum is confused by the multiple packages. > > Interestingly, if I erase enought stuff, yum will go ahead and do the update, > and will replace all the stuff I erased in the process. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > End of fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 56 > *********************************************** > From mike at netlyncs.com Sun May 9 02:48:17 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 21:48:17 -0500 Subject: 1. Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) In-Reply-To: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1084070896.2326.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 21:37, d_bradsh at bellsouth.net wrote: > I know this isnt debian. Im not saying that it is, or that i want to emulate anything they are doing. I guess i didnt clearly state that the leadership of fedora would retain control. In essence they would just let us have a little say in a complex web of constol/power structure that is already in place. How can community input be a bad precedent when the final say is up to redhat? How can community expression be bad when the community *Has to know that the project leaders are in control? Also, I said the voting thing was just an idea. You dont accomplish anything by belittling someone who has a different opinion than you. The name voting, may be silly, and it may be cute, but it also is the right thing to do as community outreach. If it isnt, then just dont do it,. Dont attack me. First off, please check your word wrapping as yours seems to go on forever (maybe change to 72-76 or something). Second, the current releases, even test releases are called Fedora. Didn't know there was a release name besides that? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sun May 9 02:50:39 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 22:50:39 -0400 Subject: KDE app icon issues & KMail crashing In-Reply-To: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084071039.4627.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> I forgot to mention, "Enable icon zooming" is also broken in KDE desktop. From sanjeevdas at yahoo.com Sun May 9 02:53:30 2004 From: sanjeevdas at yahoo.com (Sanjeev Das) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 19:53:30 -0700 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.356 hangs at boot time Message-ID: Hi all, I recently built kernel 2.6.5-1.356 from arjanv at http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/. The system fails to boot and hangs in runlevel 5 at "checking for new hardware" what could be the problem? thanks for the help. Sanjeev From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun May 9 02:57:12 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 22:57:12 -0400 Subject: cdwriter In-Reply-To: <200405081127.34022.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> References: <200405031059.43988.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> <40962A5F.9050003@insight.rr.com> <200405081127.34022.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> Message-ID: <409D9E08.4010602@insight.rr.com> Ted wrote: > On Monday 03 May 2004 12:17, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Ted wrote: >> >>>I have both Fedora and Debian on my drive...Debian will burn cd's ok and >>>cdrecord -scanbus tells me the burner is 0,0,0 whereas Fedora tells me >>>1,0,0 and in Fedora I get an error message... >>>scsidev: 'ATA' >>>devname: 'ATA' >>>scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 >>>Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. >>>Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 >>> >>>I notice I do not call for ide=scsi in the grub boot in fedora yet I do >>>in the working Debian on the older kernel.... >> >>The 2.6 kernel uses the ide-cd driver instead. Sometimes the CDROM needs >>this added to the grub.conf file. >> >> >>>I have checked in /dev and the link is ok to hcd so anyone tell me >>>where I am going wrong ?? >> >>/dev/cdrom or /dev/cdwriter? (pointing to /dev/hdc) >> >>I'm on an FC1 nstallation right now. ls -la /dev/cd* gives me the below >>output. FC2 of course should be different. >> >>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 2 17:07 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 >>..... >>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 3 06:52 /dev/cdwriter -> /dev/sg0 >> >>Have you tried to burn using the nautilus CD burner feature? (right >>click on ISO file. Choose write to CD.) >> >>Jim > > > Hi Jim > I finally found if I edit grub to put > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ ide-scsi rhgb > quiet > > All is ok.......Thanks for your help.... No problem. I am not sure what to add to the kernel line at different times. Sometimes ide-cd is needed. Other times nothing is needed additionally for CDROMS to work. Adding ide-scsi for the 2.6 kernel to work doesn't work for me right now. I guess it works for others. I'm glad that it works with that added to the kernel for you. (RHL 8 and CDROM burners was real trouble for me and burning CDROMs. It dodn't work very well for me.) Jim From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sun May 9 02:57:39 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 21:57:39 -0500 Subject: 1. Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) In-Reply-To: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200405082157.39557.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Saturday 08 May 2004 21:37, d_bradsh at bellsouth.net wrote: > On Sat, 8 May 2004 17:03:23 -0400 > > > From: Jeff Spaleta > > >This is not debian. > > I know this isnt debian. Im not saying that it is, or that i want to > emulate anything they are doing. I guess i didnt clearly state that the > leadership of fedora would retain control. In essence they would just let > us have a little say in a complex web of constol/power structure that is > already in place. You have no say. You are a tester/QA resource. > How can community input be a bad precedent when the > final say is up to redhat? How can community expression be bad when the > community *Has to know that the project leaders are in control? There is no community per se, its them and us. Them is red hat, us is everybody else that doesn't receive a pay stub with RH inked on it. > Also, I > said the voting thing was just an idea. You dont accomplish anything by > belittling someone who has a different opinion than you. The name voting, > may be silly, and it may be cute, but it also is the right thing to do as > community outreach. If it isnt, then just dont do it,. Dont attack me. > > like i said: have a nice weekend. > i will stu now. > From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 9 03:03:12 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 05:03:12 +0200 Subject: fedora core 2 test 3 yum.conf In-Reply-To: <1084066525.5172.2.camel@Shea01> References: <1084066525.5172.2.camel@Shea01> Message-ID: <1084071792.953.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 03:35, elitrix87 a ?crit : > i just updated to the newer version of yum and forgot to backup my > original yum.conf. now i get a ton of http request errors when trying to > update/install. can someone please post the _original_ /etc/yum.conf > file that comes with FC2 Test 3. i cannot find this file on the net, > only the yum.conf for FC1 is available. thank you > $ cd /tmp $ rpm2cpio path/yum-2.0.7-1.noarch.rpm | cpio -iv -m -d ./etc/yum.conf ./etc/yum.conf 892 blocks -------------- next part -------------- [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=fedora-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 [base] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-$releasever [updates-released] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-$releasever #[updates-testing] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever #[development] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ From elitrix87 at comcast.net Sun May 9 03:06:09 2004 From: elitrix87 at comcast.net (elitrix87) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:06:09 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.356 hangs at boot time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084071969.5833.4.camel@Shea01> I had a problem similar to this when i customized my 351 kernel. When I ran xconfig, I saw firewire was disabled, so I enabled just in case I ever had a use for my firewire port. After the kernel was compiled and installed, I tried to reboot. It started nice until it got to checking for new hardware (it stops at enabling swap space i think if you press show details before it gets to that point). I was able to fix it just by disabling firewire support altogether. I also found something about the preemptive kernel option having problems like this btw. On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 22:53, Sanjeev Das wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently built kernel 2.6.5-1.356 from arjanv at > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/. The system fails to boot > and hangs in runlevel 5 at "checking for new hardware" > > what could be the problem? thanks for the help. > > Sanjeev > From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun May 9 03:08:01 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:08:01 -0400 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <409DA091.1010909@insight.rr.com> Leon Stringer wrote: > Hi, > > I've just upgraded from FC1 to FC2 test3 and my CD-ROM drive no longer > works: I can't play audio CDs or mount CD-ROMs. E.g. mount /mnt/cdrom > gives me "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device" (as root or user). > > The big change between the two versions is that with FC1 /dev/cdrom > linked to /dev/scd0, whereas now it links to /dev/hdc (presumably this > is some change in kernel 2.6 with the way it handles CD-ROM drives?). > > dmesg lists "hdc: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-332B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive" so > presumably /dev/cdrom is linking to the correct location. > > Can anyone give any advice on troubleshooting this? Is it a problem with > my setup? It wouldn't be much good for users to upgrade from FC1 to FC2 > and find they lose their CD drives! Try it without hdc=ide-scsi in grub. If that does not work for you, try hdc=ide-cd in the grub.conf file for the kernel. You are right, upgrading from FC1 to FC2T3 does break CDROMS (2.4 kernel parameters different than the 2.6 kernel parameters.) My clean install adds this to my grub.conf file. title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.356) root (hd1,4) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.356 ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.356.img The FC1 to FC2T3 upgrade left hdc=ide-scsi in grub.conf and did not work. Jim > > Thanks, > > Leon... > > From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 9 03:11:41 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 05:11:41 +0200 Subject: fedora core 2 test 3 yum.conf In-Reply-To: <1084071792.953.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084066525.5172.2.camel@Shea01> <1084071792.953.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084072291.953.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 05:03, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 03:35, elitrix87 a ?crit : > > i just updated to the newer version of yum and forgot to backup my > > original yum.conf. now i get a ton of http request errors when trying to > > update/install. can someone please post the _original_ /etc/yum.conf > > file that comes with FC2 Test 3. i cannot find this file on the net, > > only the yum.conf for FC1 is available. thank you > > > > $ cd /tmp > $ rpm2cpio path/yum-2.0.7-1.noarch.rpm | cpio -iv -m -d ./etc/yum.conf > ./etc/yum.conf > 892 blocks > > The latest yum in Rawhide is for the final FC2. So it doesn't work right now. See attachement for the previous yum.conf. btw : use mirrors :-) -------------- next part -------------- [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=fedora-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=20 #[base] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-$releasever #[updates-released] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-$releasever #[updates-testing] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever [development] name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ From elitrix87 at comcast.net Sun May 9 03:15:57 2004 From: elitrix87 at comcast.net (elitrix87) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:15:57 -0400 Subject: fedora core 2 test 3 yum.conf In-Reply-To: <1084071792.953.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084066525.5172.2.camel@Shea01> <1084071792.953.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084072557.5963.2.camel@Shea01> the yum.conf that is installed with a new installation will not work with fedora test releases. i get the same http error messages. i need the yum.conf that is installed with a new installation of FC2 Test 3. thanks anyway On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 23:03, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 03:35, elitrix87 a ?crit : > > i just updated to the newer version of yum and forgot to backup my > > original yum.conf. now i get a ton of http request errors when trying to > > update/install. can someone please post the _original_ /etc/yum.conf > > file that comes with FC2 Test 3. i cannot find this file on the net, > > only the yum.conf for FC1 is available. thank you > > > > $ cd /tmp > $ rpm2cpio path/yum-2.0.7-1.noarch.rpm | cpio -iv -m -d ./etc/yum.conf > ./etc/yum.conf > 892 blocks > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From elitrix87 at comcast.net Sun May 9 03:17:59 2004 From: elitrix87 at comcast.net (elitrix87) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:17:59 -0400 Subject: fedora core 2 test 3 yum.conf In-Reply-To: <1084072291.953.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084066525.5172.2.camel@Shea01> <1084071792.953.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084072291.953.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084072679.5963.4.camel@Shea01> that's what i need. didn't realize it was just a matter of commenting differences from the default file. uh well, thank you On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 23:11, Matias Feliciano wrote: > Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 05:03, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > > Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 03:35, elitrix87 a ?crit : > > > i just updated to the newer version of yum and forgot to backup my > > > original yum.conf. now i get a ton of http request errors when trying to > > > update/install. can someone please post the _original_ /etc/yum.conf > > > file that comes with FC2 Test 3. i cannot find this file on the net, > > > only the yum.conf for FC1 is available. thank you > > > > > > > $ cd /tmp > > $ rpm2cpio path/yum-2.0.7-1.noarch.rpm | cpio -iv -m -d ./etc/yum.conf > > ./etc/yum.conf > > 892 blocks > > > > > > The latest yum in Rawhide is for the final FC2. So it doesn't work right > now. > > See attachement for the previous yum.conf. > > btw : use mirrors :-) > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From sanjeevdas at yahoo.com Sun May 9 03:18:13 2004 From: sanjeevdas at yahoo.com (Sanjeev Das) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 20:18:13 -0700 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.356 hangs at boot time References: <1084071969.5833.4.camel@Shea01> Message-ID: I think I have the same problem. I did enable firewire. But I need firewire to get to my camcorder movies...Is this a bug? On Sat, 08 May 2004 23:06:09 -0400, elitrix87 wrote: > I had a problem similar to this when i customized my 351 kernel. When I > ran xconfig, I saw firewire was disabled, so I enabled just in case I > ever had a use for my firewire port. After the kernel was compiled and > installed, I tried to reboot. It started nice until it got to checking > for new hardware (it stops at enabling swap space i think if you press > show details before it gets to that point). I was able to fix it just by > disabling firewire support altogether. I also found something about the > preemptive kernel option having problems like this btw. > > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 22:53, Sanjeev Das wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I recently built kernel 2.6.5-1.356 from arjanv at >> http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/. The system fails to boot >> and hangs in runlevel 5 at "checking for new hardware" >> >> what could be the problem? thanks for the help. >> >> Sanjeev >> From elitrix87 at comcast.net Sun May 9 03:21:08 2004 From: elitrix87 at comcast.net (elitrix87) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:21:08 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.356 hangs at boot time In-Reply-To: References: <1084071969.5833.4.camel@Shea01> Message-ID: <1084072868.5963.7.camel@Shea01> recompile your custom kernel again but this time with firewire disabled. if this fixes it, you should probably file a bug with bugzilla On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 23:18, Sanjeev Das wrote: > I think I have the same problem. I did enable firewire. But I need > firewire to get to my camcorder movies...Is this a bug? > > > > On Sat, 08 May 2004 23:06:09 -0400, elitrix87 wrote: > > > I had a problem similar to this when i customized my 351 kernel. When I > > ran xconfig, I saw firewire was disabled, so I enabled just in case I > > ever had a use for my firewire port. After the kernel was compiled and > > installed, I tried to reboot. It started nice until it got to checking > > for new hardware (it stops at enabling swap space i think if you press > > show details before it gets to that point). I was able to fix it just by > > disabling firewire support altogether. I also found something about the > > preemptive kernel option having problems like this btw. > > > > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 22:53, Sanjeev Das wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I recently built kernel 2.6.5-1.356 from arjanv at > >> http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/. The system fails to boot > >> and hangs in runlevel 5 at "checking for new hardware" > >> > >> what could be the problem? thanks for the help. > >> > >> Sanjeev > >> > > From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun May 9 03:21:34 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:21:34 -0400 Subject: Example up2date `sources' In-Reply-To: References: <1083944157.14139.173.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <409DA3BE.5060100@insight.rr.com> Harry Putnam wrote: > Colin Charles writes: > > >>On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 01:26, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >>>Group, >>>I've fallen way way behind the testing curve ...still on core1 test2. >>>My current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources is way out of date. >> >>You don't need one - up2date is smart enough to do selection nowadays > > > Do what selection? > > up2date isn't all that smart here... Installing the latest up2date > and using its `souces' file results in: > > [root] # up2date --list > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 > There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: > > An HTTP error occurred: > URL: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info > Status Code: 404 > Error Message: Not Found > > Same problem here. I added a development link to get up2date to retrieve newer program versions. I just unchecked the new links for FC2 and FC2 updates. I guess FC2 is not up yet, so you get 404 errors. Future links don't work, I guess. Jim From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sun May 9 03:33:33 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:33:33 -0400 Subject: FC2 release schedule In-Reply-To: References: <20040507183708.27927.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084073613.7157.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 15:00 -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2004, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > > is the absolute devel freeze still today? > > i.e. is http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ current? > > Yes on both counts! Lets see: at least on my system, got 215 new headers today, did yum upgrade twice and got 59 packages updated + kernel-2.6.5-1.353 the first time, 35 upgrades + kernel-2.6.5-1.356 the second for a grand total of 96 changed/new packages. Added to one Bugzilla and filed one new one. Have seen the term "slush" used for this kind of freeze before. ;^) I know there's a difference between devel and bug-fixes, but still seems pretty dynamic to be so close to FC2. Phil From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun May 9 03:45:04 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 23:45:04 -0400 Subject: eth0 problems at boot time !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <409DA940.8080804@insight.rr.com> George wrote: > i ve just installed(upgrate from fc1 ) fc2 test3 relleased and i have > the following problem . > > My eth0 was configured as well , but during initialization i received > the following message > > " Determinign IP information for ...eth0 ... failed . No link presented > , Check cable ? > thats all > and of course i can't connect to my lan and to the internet as you > imagined ... > the worst is that i cant even configure my card manualy , i took the > same message .... > Please help. > This might sound like a silly solution. When I was checking out the 2.5 kernels on one of my computers, kudzu would recognize my cards differently between 2.4 and the then 2.5 kernel versions. When kudzu would ask to remove my ethernet driver configuration, I would say no. It then wanted to add another network card driver for the 2.6 ish kernel. The driver selection that was correct for the 2.4 kernel was correct and worked for the 2.6ish kernel also. The new kudzu selection that was picked with the 2.6 kernel didn't work. Anyway, try installing a 2.4 kernel with the options below. Let kudzu configure the new drivr for the nic. Then Reboot into the 2.6 kernel and see if your NIC works. To install the 2.4 kernel, you have to download the rpm. Then run the below lines to install an "older" version kernel. rpm -ivh kernel-2.4-whatever.rpm --oldpackage This may not work for you. It did for my computer setup though. For the check cable problem. I have had that problem back when "Fedora Core 1 beta1" first came out. My NIC was an older 3com vortex boomerang card. I dumped the NIC and filed several bug reports. It might still be broken for these NICs. Jim From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sun May 9 04:18:57 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 00:18:57 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.356 hangs at boot time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <409DB131.6050504@insight.rr.com> Sanjeev Das wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently built kernel 2.6.5-1.356 from arjanv at > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/. The system fails to boot > and hangs in runlevel 5 at "checking for new hardware" > > what could be the problem? thanks for the help. > > Sanjeev > > For me, the problem was caused by my "Sandisk ImageMate 6 in 1" flash card reader. I had to disable kudzu in runlevel 1, then run the below command to get runlevel 5 or 3 to boot past the checking hardware prompt. chkconfig --level 5 kudzu off After I figured out it was my card reader, I disconnected the card reader and changed it back to normal with the below. chkconfig --level 5 kudzu on I don't know if this problem is related to the multilun parameter that was added to the kernel or not, to be able to read several different cards at once, in the card reader. I just know that it was hard to figure out. To figure out the problem. I tried to run fdisk -l and found out that fdisk was hanging and would not list my disks. It hung on my usb hard disk and on the card reader. I first removed the usb disk. The same lockup on checking hardware occurred. I then removed the card reader and rebooted. It rebooted and fdisk showed my disks (usb hard disk and other IDE drives). I haven't put the card reader back on to confirm that the card rader was the actual problem. The amber light on the top of the reader worked. The green light for the CF flash was not lighted. Good luck! Check for a usb device problem. Jim From matt at rairyu.tk Sun May 9 04:31:18 2004 From: matt at rairyu.tk (Matthew Faull) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 13:31:18 +0900 Subject: ASUS S5200N (S5N) laptop Kernel panic after 2.6.5-1.319 Message-ID: <409DB416.1010202@rairyu.tk> Every new kernel I've got from my yum update, after 2.6.5-1.319 has been giving me a kernel panic at startup (Last one I tried was 2.6.5-1.356) on my ASUS S5200N laptop. Its running the latest bios(0210 release). The only thing that works is turning off acpi at boot. i.e. acpi=off. However this means that I lose access to the sound card, and the pcmcia slot. (I've tried the various PCI settings as well). I'm using pcmcia wireless card, so this means I lose wireless as well. All of this worked in the 319 release. The error message I get at startup looks almost exactly the same as the one this guy reported on this list last month: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-April/msg00680.html I haven't been able to work out what changed after the 2.6.5-1.319 kernel release. I've seen sporadic reports from other asus centrino users when I've been googling, with similar problems. But I have been unable to find a solution. Has anyone here found a solution, or could perhaps point me in the right direction, so I can find a solution on my own. Cheers Matt From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 9 04:40:29 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 06:40:29 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm [Failed] In-Reply-To: <1084049959.10410.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083974171.3902.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040508112319.24301259.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084049959.10410.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084077619.953.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 08/05/2004 ? 22:59, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > Le sam 08/05/2004 ? 11:23, Michael Schwendt a ?crit : > > On Sat, 08 May 2004 01:56:11 +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: > > > > > $ rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm > > > [...] > > > + /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot > > > File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' > > > File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatiassmp/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' > > > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.40344 (%install) > > > > > > > > > $ objdump -x /var/tmp/kernel-2.6.5-1.354.fmatias-root/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf | grep ORIGIN > > > RPATH $ORIGIN > > > > > > Any thought ? > > > > https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1401#c32 > > > Thanks, I'll try again after removing fedora-rpmdevtools. > Finally, I keep fedora-rpmdevtools. fedora-buildrpmtree added : %__arch_install_post /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot to my .rpmmacros. I suppress this line. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun May 9 04:42:10 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 00:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Status of CIFS? Message-ID: <64518.65.40.71.237.1084077730.squirrel@65.40.71.237> I've got to messing around with CIFS support on FC2T3 and seem to be having authentication issues (mount error 13 = Permission denied), even against localhost. I've found a bug about it (119766), but it digresses into issues with smbfs. Is smbfs going to be the preferred method? -- William Hooper From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun May 9 05:03:29 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 01:03:29 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <200405081538.08695.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> <200405081538.08695.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1084079008.4028.3.camel@binkley> > Frankly, I don't see how you can get away from downloading the > headers, I can't visualize another way to positively find out whats > new and different. http://linux.duke.edu/projects/metadata/ read the readme and look at the samples. That's how. :) -sv From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun May 9 05:06:01 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 01:06:01 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084079160.4028.7.camel@binkley> > Err... In what sense is up2date not that? Up2date's interface makes it difficult to perform certain tasks. For updating packages it works a treat, but for selecting new things to be packaged and/or removing item it can become a bit cumbersome. Something that was discussed on fedora-config-list was if system-config-packages interface could be coupled to one of the various backends to help with the interface. A redesign of the up2date ui to be geared more toward installation/removal/etc of packages instead of just updating would also be adequate. -sv From mike at netlyncs.com Sun May 9 05:09:52 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 00:09:52 -0500 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <1084079160.4028.7.camel@binkley> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084079160.4028.7.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1084079392.2326.10.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 00:06, seth vidal wrote: > Up2date's interface makes it difficult to perform certain tasks. For > updating packages it works a treat, but for selecting new things to be > packaged and/or removing item it can become a bit cumbersome. > Something that was discussed on fedora-config-list was if > system-config-packages interface could be coupled to one of the various > backends to help with the interface. A redesign of the up2date ui to be > geared more toward installation/removal/etc of packages instead of just > updating would also be adequate. Or combine the two programs into one that updates as well as adds/removes, as you stated about up2date. I think the installing of new packages via UI is def missing from up2date as mentioned by others. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From netdemonz at yahoo.com Sun May 9 04:22:52 2004 From: netdemonz at yahoo.com (Brian Bober) Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 21:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: enabling multiple apps to access the sound card simultaneously In-Reply-To: <1084017615.2939.2.camel@bean> Message-ID: <20040509042252.63709.qmail@web90101.mail.scd.yahoo.com> This is one of the most annoying issues, and it didn't happen when I manually installed Alsa on RH8 and 9. I think that they turned off software mixing. From wtogami at redhat.com Sun May 9 05:32:34 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 19:32:34 -1000 Subject: rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm [Failed] In-Reply-To: <1084077619.953.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083974171.3902.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040508112319.24301259.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084049959.10410.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084077619.953.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <409DC272.2060809@redhat.com> Matias Feliciano wrote: > Le sam 08/05/2004 ? 22:59, Matias Feliciano a ?crit : > >>Le sam 08/05/2004 ? 11:23, Michael Schwendt a ?crit : >> >>>On Sat, 08 May 2004 01:56:11 +0200, Matias Feliciano wrote: >>> >>> >>>>$ rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm >>>>[...] >>>>+ /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot >>>>File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' >>>>File '/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatiassmp/build/scripts/kconfig/conf' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN' >>>>error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.40344 (%install) >>>> >>>> >>>>$ objdump -x /var/tmp/kernel-2.6.5-1.354.fmatias-root/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.354.fmatias/build/scripts/kconfig/conf | grep ORIGIN >>>> RPATH $ORIGIN >>>> >>>>Any thought ? >>> >>>https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1401#c32 >>> >> >>Thanks, I'll try again after removing fedora-rpmdevtools. >> > > > Finally, I keep fedora-rpmdevtools. > > fedora-buildrpmtree added : > %__arch_install_post /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot > to my .rpmmacros. > > I suppress this line. > > Well, the whole point of check-rpaths is to detect potential bad rpaths in packages. If people totally avoid using it, we wont easily detect bad rpath problems before they are published in packages. Warren From wtogami at redhat.com Sun May 9 05:36:45 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 19:36:45 -1000 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.356 hangs at boot time In-Reply-To: <409DB131.6050504@insight.rr.com> References: <409DB131.6050504@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <409DC36D.7010305@redhat.com> Jim Cornette wrote: > Sanjeev Das wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I recently built kernel 2.6.5-1.356 from arjanv at >> http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/. The system fails to >> boot and hangs in runlevel 5 at "checking for new hardware" >> >> what could be the problem? thanks for the help. >> >> Sanjeev >> >> > > For me, the problem was caused by my "Sandisk ImageMate 6 in 1" flash > card reader. I had to disable kudzu in runlevel 1, then run the below > command to get runlevel 5 or 3 to boot past the checking hardware prompt. options scsi_mod max_luns=8 Try a line like this in your /etc/modprobe.conf. Try different numbers like "6" too. If this seems to solve your problem, then you need to submit information about your device ... uh... somewhere... in order to add to a whitelist of some sort. Reply to this list, CC me and davej at redhat.com if the above suggestion seems to help. Warren From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 9 06:26:37 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 08:26:37 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 kernel-2.6.5-1.354.src.rpm [Failed] In-Reply-To: <409DC272.2060809@redhat.com> References: <1083974171.3902.65.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040508112319.24301259.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084049959.10410.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084077619.953.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> <409DC272.2060809@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084083994.953.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 07:32, Warren Togami a ?crit : > Matias Feliciano wrote: > > Finally, I keep fedora-rpmdevtools. > > > > fedora-buildrpmtree added : > > %__arch_install_post /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot > > to my .rpmmacros. > > > > I suppress this line. > > > > > > Well, the whole point of check-rpaths is to detect potential bad rpaths > in packages. If people totally avoid using it, we wont easily detect > bad rpath problems before they are published in packages. > It's just a work around for kernel package. The line is comment out temporarily. Now check-rpaths is enabled again :-) > Warren > From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun May 9 06:33:21 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 08:33:21 +0200 Subject: RHN Applet freezes In-Reply-To: <1084069951.2326.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1084069951.2326.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1084084400.5232.17.camel@littlePiet> Am So, den 09.05.2004 schrieb Mike Chambers um 04:32: > I noticed that after a reboot or restarting the rhn_applet, that it > initially works, but after the computer has been running a bit, it > freezes. As in you can't left or right click on it and it doesn't > change to show updates are available. Same problem here - sometimes. And often it will work again later (if I don't pay any attention to it for some period of time). I can't reproduce the phenomenon reliably. I suppose the applet is busy with communication tasks (contacting the server which doesn't respond / is overloaded) and doesn't react to the GUI (design flaw of the program or the python rumtime?). Peter From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun May 9 06:40:32 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 08:40:32 +0200 Subject: Fedora and LSB compliance Message-ID: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> Red Hat pretends that Fedora is LSB compliant. But with the latest Core 2 Test 3 we are still missing the /media mount point for removable media or the /srv directory for www servers, ftp, etc. The pre-configuration of the apache still points to /var/www. Is there any planning to adopt to the LSB specifications? Peter From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 9 07:01:16 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 09:01:16 +0200 Subject: Fedora and LSB compliance In-Reply-To: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> References: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1084086076.953.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 08:40, Peter Boy a ?crit : > Red Hat pretends that Fedora is LSB compliant. ? http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel.html Standards Certifications : None > But with the latest Core > 2 Test 3 we are still missing the /media mount point for removable media > or the /srv directory for www servers, ftp, etc. The pre-configuration > of the apache still points to /var/www. > > Is there any planning to adopt to the LSB specifications? > read this thread : http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-March/msg00907.html > > > Peter > From fedora at ventura.nu Sun May 9 08:00:47 2004 From: fedora at ventura.nu (Ron McKown) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 12:00:47 +0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1084089647.8160.5.camel@callisto> hi Seth, i don't think it's so much that users 'hate' the header download portion, it's more about it being an inconvenience for those of us with slow connections. i have been using the freshrpms apt repository for FC1, and i am so delighted how fast and little bandwidth apt-get update takes. many of us in Russia are still using dialup, so there are times when it will take me many sessions to complete one upgrade. apt-get supports broken downloads (it resumes). so far, i haven't been able to find this feature in YUM. for myself and countless others, getting YUM to not download the huge header requirement and to allow for resuming downloads would make all the difference. thanks!! Ron McKown On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 21:55, seth vidal wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 12:09 -0500, Jason Knight wrote: > > Yum is such a great package management program (very well designed > > except maybe for having to get all the headers) and stable, yet for some > > reason we expect the average home user to bust out his/her x-term and > > learn the in's and out's of yum CLI usage? (not to mention config file > > management ). Sure you might say, there is apt and synaptic, a > > wonderfully userfriendly combination but again: these would require the > > usage of yum and text line repo management to install on any stock > > fedora system. > > Thanks for the kind words. > > look on the fedora-config-list and you can see some of that discussion > there. > > I've been rewriting considerable portions of yum with this in mind. > > it takes time, b/c I'm trying to keep from making a bunch of the same > mistakes and getting rid of the 'download all the headers' requirement > that everyone seems to hate. > > -sv > > From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sun May 9 08:06:25 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 01:06:25 -0700 Subject: Invalid context? In-Reply-To: <1083790024.2982.3.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> References: <1083726961.1424.6.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> <1083790024.2982.3.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> Message-ID: <20040509080624.GA28660@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 04:47:04PM -0400, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 23:16, Joshua Adam Ginsberg wrote: > > Hello -- > > > > I must admit I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to SELinux, but every > > time I try to install a package, I get about a hundred lines of > > "/etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context foo on line > > number ###" with foo and ### different on each line. From reading the > > archives, I gather I can boot with selinux=0 to avert the problem, but I > > also gather that wouldn't be desirable. This is a brand, spankin' new > > installation of FC2T3, so I'm wondering if I've done something wrong or > > are doing something wrong. Thanks! > > > The selinux=0 kernel option is not supported as of 2.6.5-1.349 . > Setting SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux is the "new and > improved" way :) > How... # rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/sysconfig/selinux file /etc/sysconfig/selinux is not owned by any package does this file get built I see no obvious clue running 2.6.5-1.356? -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Sun May 9 08:11:50 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 09:11:50 +0100 Subject: cdwriter Message-ID: <200405090911.50791.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> Can anyone tell me why I have to make the entry ide-scsi in menu.lst to get Fedora to burn a disk...A couple of friends using Fedora do not need this (All using the newest Fedora and uptodate) I also run Debian and Slackware on the same machine and neither of these require the ide-scsi call.. Also Fedora calls a different lun 1,0,0 whereas both other distros call 0.,0,0 This is not a complaint but just a matter of interest...... ps. Alll distros using the same kernel release.. -- Regards Ted Wager Using Libranet Linux From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 9 08:37:01 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:37:01 +0800 Subject: Closed HTTP port 80 - Can not open it In-Reply-To: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> References: <4099AD5E.10304@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1084091821.18548.3.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 11:13, Dwaine Garden wrote: > I have tried to see if the firewall in FC2T3 was blocking the port. The > firewall is disabled, and the port seems to be still blocked. No one > can connect to the web server on the box. > > I have a router which blocks the ports, so Fedora does not need to have > this job. Can anyone offer any suggestion to getting the port opened up. > > Thanks > Dwaine. Could be the router, or the ISP... If it's the ISP, try a different port, like 81, or 8080. Yeah it sucks, but they feel they have to protect those Windows boxes sitting out there with great big fluorescent orange "Kick Me!" signs stuck to them. -- Chris Kloiber From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sun May 9 08:47:23 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 05:47:23 -0300 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates Message-ID: <409DF01B.5000100@margo.bijoux.nom.br> I believe that this is not the case. By "port" , I understand that it means making it work in another architecture. In this case , putting Mysql 4 in Fedora is not considered porting , as it will be used on a x86 distribution (and Mysql AB did the original x86 code). I may be wrong though , as this legal stuff is not what I work with... -- Pedro Macedo -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Wayne Frazee Subject: Re: MySQL and Apache Updates Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 22:36:11 -0600 Size: 2032 URL: From vibol at khmer.cc Sun May 9 08:50:52 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 01:50:52 -0700 Subject: redhat-email.png icon under non-Bluecurve theme? Message-ID: <409DF0EC.3000403@khmer.cc> Can you guys tell me what the following file for you is linked to? /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/redhat-email.png Mine is linked to /usr/share/evolution/1.4/glade/evolution.png even though I don't have Evolution installed (I uninstalled it). I'm curious to know if this is a bug since uninstalling an application shouldn't remove a system icon. I don't see any other references to *email* files other than those found in the Bluecurve themes. -Vibol From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 9 08:54:57 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:54:57 +0800 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks (Alessandro Torrisi) In-Reply-To: <20040506151237.82DE51A03E@mail.euronenet.it> References: <20040506151237.82DE51A03E@mail.euronenet.it> Message-ID: <1084092897.18548.11.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 22:41, Alessandro Torrisi wrote: > Hi! I've got the same problem with an ATI RADEON 9000 Mobility + MONITOR LCD > 1280x800 WideScreen (Packard Bell AMD64 3000Mhz M3) !!! > The problem seems to be common, not only with Fedora but with all > distributions!!! For example I tried to install Gentoo and also with that > there is the same problem... I don't have this problem *anymore*. (eMachines M6807, 3000+ AMD64) system-config-display works because it doesn't specify any horizontal or vertical refresh rates (it has no xorg.conf at that time). Choose the 'radeon' driver, and 1024x768, then exit. Hand edit the resulting xorg.conf, and comment out the refresh rates, then add the max resolution of your display (Mine is 1280x800, works fine). I do hope the system-config-display tool gets fixed soon, however. > Trying to use ATI DRIVERS (kernel ones) it outputs on the second PORT of the > ATI Device and if I send a CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill X a BLANK SCREEN is > the only thing I can see and I have to REBOOT the notebook !!! Ummm. Where did you get 64-bit ATI drivers? Even non-functional ones would be a good sign to me. -- Chris Kloiber From M.E.Foster at ed.ac.uk Sun May 9 09:02:49 2004 From: M.E.Foster at ed.ac.uk (Mary Ellen Foster) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 10:02:49 +0100 Subject: "ctrl:nocaps" don't work in FC2T3 In-Reply-To: References: <1083884899.3176.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083885388.3176.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083914758.2741.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084054265.6775.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <409DF3B9.6010908@ed.ac.uk> Neal Becker wrote: >Are you sure? I used to use the keyboard layouts in kde to do this, but >since FC2T2 keyboard layouts seem to have disappeared - there are no >choices on the menus. So I had to add the above option to xorg.conf. If >that no longer works, that would just suck. > > The mssing KDE keyboard layout bug is already in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121950 There's a workaround in the comments -- creating the symbolic links as described there worked for me in KDE. MEF From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun May 9 09:14:09 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 11:14:09 +0200 Subject: Fedora and LSB compliance In-Reply-To: <1084086076.953.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> <1084086076.953.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084094049.5232.28.camel@littlePiet> Am So, den 09.05.2004 schrieb Matias Feliciano um 09:01: > > Is there any planning to adopt to the LSB specifications? > > > > read this thread : > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-March/msg00907.html Thanks for the link. Interesting. Peter From sanjeevdas at yahoo.com Sun May 9 09:14:26 2004 From: sanjeevdas at yahoo.com (Sanjeev Das) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 02:14:26 -0700 Subject: Works now (was:Re: kernel 2.6.5-1.356 hangs at boot time) References: <1084071969.5833.4.camel@Shea01> <1084072868.5963.7.camel@Shea01> Message-ID: I recompiled the kernel without firewire enabled. Now it boots fine but I don't have firewire. I did not have this problem with my custom kernels in FC2T2. Looks like I should file a bug report. thanks for all the help. Sanjeev On Sat, 08 May 2004 23:21:08 -0400, elitrix87 wrote: > recompile your custom kernel again but this time with firewire disabled. > if this fixes it, you should probably file a bug with bugzilla > > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 23:18, Sanjeev Das wrote: >> I think I have the same problem. I did enable firewire. But I need >> firewire to get to my camcorder movies...Is this a bug? >> >> >> >> On Sat, 08 May 2004 23:06:09 -0400, elitrix87 wrote: >> >> > I had a problem similar to this when i customized my 351 kernel. When I >> > ran xconfig, I saw firewire was disabled, so I enabled just in case I >> > ever had a use for my firewire port. After the kernel was compiled and >> > installed, I tried to reboot. It started nice until it got to checking >> > for new hardware (it stops at enabling swap space i think if you press >> > show details before it gets to that point). I was able to fix it just by >> > disabling firewire support altogether. I also found something about the >> > preemptive kernel option having problems like this btw. >> > >> > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 22:53, Sanjeev Das wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I recently built kernel 2.6.5-1.356 from arjanv at >> >> http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/. The system fails to boot >> >> and hangs in runlevel 5 at "checking for new hardware" >> >> >> >> what could be the problem? thanks for the help. >> >> >> >> Sanjeev >> >> >> >> From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 9 09:59:43 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 11:59:43 +0200 Subject: 1. Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) In-Reply-To: <1084070896.2326.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> <1084070896.2326.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <409E010F.30905@gmx.de> Mike Chambers wrote: >On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 21:37, d_bradsh at bellsouth.net wrote: > >>[...]Dont attack me. >> >> i hope that redhat will follow his traditional naming-scheme in fedora, a full story/explanation about the release-names would be nice :-) >Second, the current releases, even test releases are called Fedora. >Didn't know there was a release name besides that? > $ ll /etc/redhat-release lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 29. Apr 21:20 /etc/redhat-release -> fedora-release $ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release 1 (Yarrow) $ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release 1.92 (FC2 Test 3) a partial overview over the redhat-naming-scheme can you find here http://freshrpms.net/misc/redhat-releases/index.html?explain=on Red Hat Linux release names and possible explanations thanks to matthias saou. -- shrek-m From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 9 10:22:26 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 12:22:26 +0200 Subject: eth0 problems at boot time !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <409E0662.6060400@gmx.de> George wrote: > i ve just installed(upgrate from fc1 ) fc2 test3 relleased and i > have the following problem . > > My eth0 was configured as well , but during initialization i > received the following message > > " Determinign IP information for ...eth0 ... failed . No link > presented , Check cable ? > thats all > and of course i can't connect to my lan and to the internet as you > imagined ... > the worst is that i cant even configure my card manualy , i took > the same message .... > Please help. 3com-nic ? disable kudzu while booting # chkconfig kudzu off and try it again, search bugzilla. -- shrek-m From dave at webaugur.com Sun May 9 10:26:47 2004 From: dave at webaugur.com (David L Norris) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 05:26:47 -0500 Subject: Fedora and LSB compliance In-Reply-To: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> References: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1084098406.20246.96.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 01:40, Peter Boy wrote: > Red Hat pretends that Fedora is LSB compliant. I see no such claim: http://www.google.com/search?q=lsb%20site%3Afedora.redhat.com However, one of the Red Hat developers stated that Fedora Core "aims to be compliant" [1] with LSB. I don't detect any pretense in that statement. They do seem to sincerely 'aim to comply' with LSB. And as far as I can tell Fedora Core generally complies with LSB standards current during the time of development. If not, no one has ever bothered to complain in a useful manner. Query Red Hat Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/) and you'll see there have only ever been 6 or so reports filed which are obviously LSB or FHS related. Most are related to the same issue and filed at the same time. > But with the latest Core 2 Test 3 we are still missing the /media mount point for removable media > or the /srv directory for www servers, ftp, etc. The pre-configuration > of the apache still points to /var/www. Have a look at the current LSB spec. The current spec is LSB 1.3 [2] published in 2002. The LSB 2.0 spec (requiring FHS 2.3) has not obviously been published (as of 2004-05-09 05:21). FHS 2.3 spec was published January 29 [3], well into FC2 development. FHS 2.3 defines the /srv, /media, etc. directories you cite as examples of Fedora non-compliance. So, shortly after FC3 development begins you should make sure a bugzilla RFE gets filed for LSB 2.0 compliance once the spec is released. > Is there any planning to adopt to the LSB specifications? Don't forget to file bug reports with upstream maintainers of a package if they haven't implemented the current LSB specification. Problems fixed upstream are more likely to be fixed in Fedora Core. If you want LSB 2.0 compliance in Fedora Core then the best chance you have is to run the compliance tests when they are published. Report failures to the appropriate bug reporting system. References: [1]-http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-February/msg01025.html [2]-http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/ [3]-http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ (see also: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/announce-2.3.html) -- David Norris http://www.webaugur.com/dave/ ICQ - 412039 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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With the latest kernel, you no longer need > selinux=0; setting SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux is > equivalent, and you no longer get these rpm errors. But why remove the "selinux=0" option? It was a feature, to temporarily disable selinux when needed. Regards, Luciano Rocha From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun May 9 10:32:57 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 11:32:57 +0100 Subject: rpm -e taking ages Message-ID: <1084098777.1815.14.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Is there any reason why when I do rpm -e kernel-2.6.5-1.315 kernel-source-2.6.5-1.315 kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.315 it can take upto 9 minutes to do the operation? I'm using a 1.7GHz Celeron with 768Mb of memory if that helps. TTFN Paul -- "There are four stages to any war First they ignore you, then they laugh at you Then they fight you, then YOU win." Ghandi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 10:42:32 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 06:42:32 -0400 Subject: 3 q's if I can recall them In-Reply-To: <200405082037.40625.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200405082037.40625.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040509104232.GC1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 08:37:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > 1. I don't think I'm running the right video driver on that shop box, > a 233mhz P2, whose logon says its a Diamond SpeedStar Viper 330 with > 4 megs of ram. But linux almost makes the rage128 driver work? Who > knows what is the right driver for that old video card? Diamond varied by card. They used parts from pretty much all the vendors. Your best bet is to look for the video card in "lspci". > 2. I've added a couple of ISA bussed parallel port cards intended for > machine controls to it, but they aren't found by isapnp. Normally 0x378, 0x278 and 0x3bc, but if they are jumped you may have to find the documentation or just try random ports 8( > 3. The bios says the keyboard and a PS2 mouse are found and > configured. When gpm starts, it says no mouse was detected, and I've > no mouse on the console, but it works just fine in X. I'd like to Known bug, and filed. GPM wasnt being set up for the move to /dev/input/mice Alan -- "He's been overclocked. All that beer you see him drinking ? - Coolant." - Adam Thornton From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 10:48:23 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 06:48:23 -0400 Subject: k3b - where is k3bsetup? In-Reply-To: <20040509031702.24653c02.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <20040509025528.0c7e620e.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <200405082059.17103.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <20040509031702.24653c02.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <20040509104823.GE1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 03:17:02AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > What I'd like to know is whether k3b works for you without making > cdrecord/cdrdao setuid root? Or is there any reason to run those tools > with superuser privileges? cdrecord and friends issue raw scsi commands to the device so the interface needs protection (even against basic stuff like writing directly) From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 10:51:30 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 06:51:30 -0400 Subject: KDE app icon issues & KMail crashing In-Reply-To: <1084067024.3914.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> <1084067024.3914.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040509105130.GF1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 09:43:45PM -0400, Rory Gleeson wrote: > 2) KMail also still gives a Signal 11 and crashes on start-up, which has > forced me over to Evolution. I saw your report of that but I've been unable to replicate it here at least. From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 10:54:40 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 06:54:40 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040509105440.GG1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 11:24:03PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > I think it is seriously time to consider someone writing a yum > > frontend that could be included with the standard fedora desktop. > > Err... In what sense is up2date not that? up2date doesn't - Include new package selection - Have a graphical interface to mirror selection/addition - Get the download size data right - Multithread its gui nicely and lots of other things where it should really look somewhere half between system-config-packages and up2date. up2date does however also do local files and stuff so might be a good starting point ? From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 10:57:49 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 06:57:49 -0400 Subject: 1. Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) In-Reply-To: <200405082157.39557.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> <200405082157.39557.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040509105749.GH1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Final fedora core 1 was named - Yarrow in this case. The tests carry boring version info. The actual naming is non trivial because it involves such joys as trademark searching. Apparently if we call Fedora 2 "Solaris" we get sued even if we name it after the film 8) Alan From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 10:59:37 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 06:59:37 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.356 hangs at boot time In-Reply-To: References: <1084071969.5833.4.camel@Shea01> Message-ID: <20040509105937.GI1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 08:18:13PM -0700, Sanjeev Das wrote: > I think I have the same problem. I did enable firewire. But I need > firewire to get to my camcorder movies...Is this a bug? 2.6.x firewire is broken. There is a certain amount of upstream activity going on to try and sort it out, so hopefully it will be back in a kernel errata. In the short term it might be a reason to stay at FC1 if you need firewire From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 11:03:14 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 07:03:14 -0400 Subject: Fedora and LSB compliance In-Reply-To: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> References: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <20040509110314.GJ1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 08:40:32AM +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > Red Hat pretends that Fedora is LSB compliant. But with the latest Core > 2 Test 3 we are still missing the /media mount point for removable media > or the /srv directory for www servers, ftp, etc. The pre-configuration > of the apache still points to /var/www. The current LSB doesn't use /media or /srv. The next one may adopt the newest FHS. Alan From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 11:04:15 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 07:04:15 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <1084089647.8160.5.camel@callisto> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> <1084089647.8160.5.camel@callisto> Message-ID: <20040509110415.GK1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 12:00:47PM +0400, Ron McKown wrote: > i don't think it's so much that users 'hate' the header download > portion, it's more about it being an inconvenience for those of us with > slow connections. And the fact that the base headers get downloaded over a network not off the CDs , or bundled in the package 8) From mark at talios.com Sun May 9 11:15:00 2004 From: mark at talios.com (Mark Derricutt) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 23:15:00 +1200 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <20040509110415.GK1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> <1084089647.8160.5.camel@callisto> <20040509110415.GK1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409E12B4.2000103@talios.com> Alan Cox wrote: > And the fact that the base headers get downloaded over a network not > off the CDs , or bundled in the package 8) Including a compressed package that included the standard/base RPM headers could be a good idea, would at least speed up the initial yum header download process that's for sure. -- Discouragement is a dissatisfaction with the past, a distaste for the present, and a distrust of the future - Maree De Jong, CLCA. Mark Derricutt --- mark@ talios.com --- http://www.talios.com From fedora at warmcat.com Sun May 9 11:33:45 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:33:45 +0100 Subject: rpm -e taking ages In-Reply-To: <1084098777.1815.14.camel@T7.linux> References: <1084098777.1815.14.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <200405091233.50146.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 May 2004 11:32, Paul wrote: > rpm -e kernel-2.6.5-1.315 kernel-source-2.6.5-1.315 > kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.315 > > it can take upto 9 minutes to do the operation? I'm using a 1.7GHz > Celeron with 768Mb of memory if that helps. I realize this sounds a little bizarre, but is it possible you deleted some files belonging to these or another kernel version? Eg, rm-rf /usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.315 ? I have seen rpm become very displeased with me under these circumstances, next time a related -e was attempted. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAnhcdjKeDCxMJCTIRAgr2AJ9mgosA1BCJo61v5FZog3WhraNKyACfQhGF 06PP4KTdQUTCrIRdF0bcF3E= =rHUv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Sun May 9 11:35:44 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 14:35:44 +0300 Subject: 3 q's if I can recall them In-Reply-To: <200405082037.40625.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200405082037.40625.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200405091435.44908.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Gene Heskett kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika sunnuntai, 9. toukokuuta 2004 03:37): > 1. I don't think I'm running the right video driver on that > shop box, a 233mhz P2, whose logon says its a Diamond > SpeedStar Viper 330 with 4 megs of ram. According to info found on Web, that card is based on the nVidia Riva 128 chip. Use the "nv" driver, or get the binary driver from nVidia. > 2. I've added a couple of ISA bussed parallel port cards > intended for machine controls to it, but they aren't found by > isapnp. If the cards really are "totally dumb" as you say, then they don't support PnP. > Are there any tools I could use to discover where these > totally dumb cards are at least addressed at? The documentation supplied with the cards explaining the jumpers/switches used to set the address and IRQ, perhaps? -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Sun May 9 11:48:47 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 12:48:47 +0100 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <409DA091.1010909@insight.rr.com> References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> <409DA091.1010909@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <409E1A9F.1030400@ntlworld.com> I couldn't find this in Bugzilla and I don't want people's FC1 breaking when they upgrade so I've added this as an Anaconda bug (which I assume it is): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122824 Jim Cornette wrote: > > Try it without hdc=ide-scsi in grub. If that does not work for you, > try hdc=ide-cd in the grub.conf file for the kernel. > > You are right, upgrading from FC1 to FC2T3 does break CDROMS (2.4 > kernel parameters different than the 2.6 kernel parameters.) > > My clean install adds this to my grub.conf file. > > title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.356) > root (hd1,4) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.356 ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.356.img > > The FC1 to FC2T3 upgrade left hdc=ide-scsi in grub.conf and did not work. From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Sun May 9 11:43:44 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 14:43:44 +0300 Subject: up2date issues in latest upgrade In-Reply-To: <1084067544.3914.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> <1084067544.3914.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405091443.44656.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Rory Gleeson kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika sunnuntai, 9. toukokuuta 2004 04:52): > However, after I updated up2date, it said I had no packages > left to update. Check update kept coming back as "No updates > available." > > However, from the console, when I did: > yum check-update > yum update > > ... I got a large number of packages to update. So, something > funky happened in the last up2date release. The latest updates changed the up2date config (/etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources) for FC2 final but the new yum.conf file was installed as yum.conf.rpmnew, so your yum still uses your original configuration. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 9 11:53:49 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 19:53:49 +0800 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 02:45, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Am Fr, den 07.05.2004 schrieb Michal Jaegermann um 08:21: > > > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:08:53PM -0400, David Collantes wrote: > > > Cyrus on FC2 is compiled to use shadow passwords for authentication, so users must > > > exist on the system before a mailbox is created with cyradm. > > > > > It differs from > > other IMAP server implementations in that it is run on "sealed" > > servers, where users are not normally permitted to log in. > > > > > > So what is here really correct? > > > > Michal > > I like to ask the same question, as it was still not answered / > validated by the other replies: > > Is the information by David Collantes correct that cyrus-imapd coming > with FC2 can only be used with system user account for each mail user? Nope, I just beat it to death (learned all I know now about it in the last 2-3 hours) and I successfully used our official packages without users being listed in /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow by using sasldb authentication. I followed the instructions here: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/download/imapd/install.html (specifically the "Authenticating Users" section) > I hardly doubt that because it would be total nonsense to not compile > against sasl and to force such a setup. I think it is wrong and that > just the default setup uses saslauthd with MECH=shadow, like already on > FC1 this is the default setup for Sendmail's and Postfix's STMP AUTH. It > would make some sense and the (more experienced) user can decide to use > a different authentification mech / method for the mail account users > like an LDAP backend or instead of using saslauthd directly requesting a > sasldb2. As the upcoming cyrus-imapd package most widely is based on > Simon Matter's great packaging (he does a really good job since long > time), I assume being sticked to system user accounts is just wrong > information. > > Alexander The instructions I used (as you will see) do bypass saslauthd entierly by calling sasldb through 'auxprop'. I have not probed the murky depths of saslauthd yet at all. -- Chris Kloiber From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Sun May 9 11:54:36 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 14:54:36 +0300 Subject: Fedora and LSB compliance In-Reply-To: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> References: <1084084832.5232.26.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <200405091454.36636.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Peter Boy kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika sunnuntai, 9. toukokuuta 2004 09:40): > Red Hat pretends that Fedora is LSB compliant. But with the > latest Core 2 Test 3 we are still missing the /media mount > point for removable media or the /srv directory for www > servers, ftp, etc. $ cat /etc/lsb-release LSB_VERSION="1.3" LSB 1.3 requires conformance with FHS 2.2, but /media and /srv are new additions to FHS 2.3 and LSB 2 drafts. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From maestronn at wowway.com Sun May 9 12:34:20 2004 From: maestronn at wowway.com (D James) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 08:34:20 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <1084079160.4028.7.camel@binkley> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084079160.4028.7.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <409E254C.3080200@wowway.com> seth vidal wrote: >Up2date's interface makes it difficult to perform certain tasks. For >updating packages it works a treat, but for selecting new things to be >packaged and/or removing item it can become a bit cumbersome. > Something that was discussed on fedora-config-list was if >system-config-packages interface could be coupled to one of the various >backends to help with the interface. A redesign of the up2date ui to be >geared more toward installation/removal/etc of packages instead of just >updating would also be adequate. > >-sv > > > I definately think system-config-packages needs to be upgraded and tied into yum and apt. This will make it a true "Pacakge Managment" tool From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 9 12:35:27 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 20:35:27 +0800 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1084106127.18548.44.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 01:55, seth vidal wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 12:09 -0500, Jason Knight wrote: > > Yum is such a great package management program (very well designed > > except maybe for having to get all the headers) and stable, yet for some > > reason we expect the average home user to bust out his/her x-term and > > learn the in's and out's of yum CLI usage? (not to mention config file > > management ). Sure you might say, there is apt and synaptic, a > > wonderfully userfriendly combination but again: these would require the > > usage of yum and text line repo management to install on any stock > > fedora system. > > Thanks for the kind words. > > look on the fedora-config-list and you can see some of that discussion > there. > > I've been rewriting considerable portions of yum with this in mind. > > it takes time, b/c I'm trying to keep from making a bunch of the same > mistakes and getting rid of the 'download all the headers' requirement > that everyone seems to hate. > > -sv Seth, With a gui in progress (or at least being seriously considered) I had been thinking about another project that might be useful. Perhaps a web page where repository authors can register their repos and working directories? A backend daemon, or yum itself could download the headers and look for obvious incompatabilities between distributions and create a reasonably accurate list of repos in some generic format (XML?) that a gui could download and parse into the config de jour. If a repo stops working for a set period of time (fairly short, 1-2 days) it's removed and the owner can resubmit when its back online. If yum is doing the parsing (or you reuse code from yum) of each repo, lists of available packages could be on this site as well, so you know where to go to get it, and what other repos will conflict with those you use. No actual links to packages or mirroring would be needed. Just "Package foo-1.0-1 is in repository bar.com" Thanks for listening. -- Chris Kloiber From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Sun May 9 12:38:06 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 14:38:06 +0200 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Alan, > MySQL has some licensing changes for 4.0 which mean it can't be used > with php, or apache or many other free but non-GPL pieces of software > (eg openssl). Any update from the legal department on this one? I was under the impression effort was being put into resolving these issues. By the way, I don't think there was ever a problem with php. And weren't these licensing issues with 4.1 instead of 4.0? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun May 9 12:49:02 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 08:49:02 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <20040509110415.GK1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> <1084089647.8160.5.camel@callisto> <20040509110415.GK1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084106942.4028.13.camel@binkley> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 07:04 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 12:00:47PM +0400, Ron McKown wrote: > > i don't think it's so much that users 'hate' the header download > > portion, it's more about it being an inconvenience for those of us with > > slow connections. > > And the fact that the base headers get downloaded over a network not > off the CDs , or bundled in the package 8) Well that's not true anymore. if you have comps or rpmdb-fedora installed it will grab the headers from there, first. -sv From mike at netlyncs.com Sun May 9 12:50:13 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 07:50:13 -0500 Subject: 1. Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) In-Reply-To: <409E010F.30905@gmx.de> References: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> <1084070896.2326.6.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <409E010F.30905@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1084107013.32067.0.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 04:59, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > $ cat /etc/fedora-release > Fedora Core release 1 (Yarrow) > > $ cat /etc/fedora-release > Fedora Core release 1.92 (FC2 Test 3) DOH!! I knew somehow that email would byte me LOL. I sit corrected :P -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Sun May 9 12:52:46 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 14:52:46 +0200 Subject: 1. Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) In-Reply-To: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1084107166.4753.27.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Dusty, First of all, don't quote the whole bloody digest message. Second, please wrap your lines. > Also, I said the voting thing was just an idea. You dont accomplish > anything by belittling someone who has a different opinion than you. > The name voting, may be silly, and it may be cute, but it also is the > right thing to do as community outreach. If it isnt, then just dont > do it,. Dont attack me. Jeff is not attacking you, he is attacking your proposal. Also I don't feel his post is belittling, just very critical of your ideas. I do agree with Jeff that voting for the name is a rather insignificant exercise and could indeed give a wrong impression of how things are decided for Fedora. There are much more important issues that need to be addressed. Communication with the user and developer base on past and coming developments being the most prominent IMO. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Sun May 9 12:58:16 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 14:58:16 +0200 Subject: Invalid context? In-Reply-To: <1083726961.1424.6.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> References: <1083726961.1424.6.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> Message-ID: <1084107495.4753.31.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Joshua, > every > time I try to install a package, I get about a hundred lines of > "/etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context foo on line > number ###" with foo and ### different on each line. How are you logged in to that machine? I noticed that when ssh-ing in as root the default context is staff_r. You need to change your context by issuing newrole -r sysadm_r Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From chak at cse.unsw.edu.au Sun May 9 13:01:55 2004 From: chak at cse.unsw.edu.au (Manuel M T Chakravarty) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 23:01:55 +1000 Subject: Suspend to memory: display problem after resume w/ i855 Message-ID: <1084107714.2543.12.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> I am having problems with suspend-to-memory with a centrino laptop based on the i855GME chipset (which is also used for the graphics adapter). Suspend to memory using echo mem >/sys/power/state works fine and the machine also resumes after pressing the power button briefly. The problem is that the display stays dark after resuming. I am sure that it is only the display, as CTRL-ALT-Delete still works properly and, when typing blind, I can still issue shell commands (such as echo'ing a string to a file). I tested this in single-user mode (init S), so the issue cannot be with X or other subsystems. Has anybody else seen this? Is there a workaround? I couldn't find this in Bugzilla, but maybe I overlooked something. Cheers, Manuel -=- lspci output: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Host Bridge (rev 02) 00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME GMCH Memory I/O Control Registers (rev 02) 00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME GMCH Configuration Process Registers (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 83) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DBM LPC Interface Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM (ICH4) Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4) SMBus Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03) 01:0a.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 20) 01:0a.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 20) 01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03) 01:0d.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04) 01:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) From richibb at rochester.rr.com Sun May 9 13:05:19 2004 From: richibb at rochester.rr.com (Rich Ibbotson) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 09:05:19 -0400 Subject: Invalid context? In-Reply-To: <20040509080624.GA28660@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <1083726961.1424.6.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> <1083790024.2982.3.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> <20040509080624.GA28660@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <409E2C8F.2090907@rochester.rr.com> Tom Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 04:47:04PM -0400, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > >>On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 23:16, Joshua Adam Ginsberg wrote: >> >>>Hello -- >>> >>>I must admit I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to SELinux, but every >>>time I try to install a package, I get about a hundred lines of >>>"/etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context foo on line >>>number ###" with foo and ### different on each line. From reading the >>>archives, I gather I can boot with selinux=0 to avert the problem, but I >>>also gather that wouldn't be desirable. This is a brand, spankin' new >>>installation of FC2T3, so I'm wondering if I've done something wrong or >>>are doing something wrong. Thanks! >>> >> >>The selinux=0 kernel option is not supported as of 2.6.5-1.349 . >>Setting SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux is the "new and >>improved" way :) >> > > > How... > > # rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/sysconfig/selinux > file /etc/sysconfig/selinux is not owned by any package > > does this file get built I see no obvious clue running 2.6.5-1.356? > Glad to hear it's not just me. I have the same problem with kernel 2.6.5-1.351. Creating the file and adding SELINUX=disabled has no effect, at least with that kernel. I still get error messages when using rpm. BTW, If you uninstall the "policy" rpm (the one that owns everything under /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts), you'll only get one error message saying that /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts doesn't exist. Definitely not a fix, as selinux is apparently still enabled, and I don't know what the side effects are, but at least you don't get swamped with error messages that way. Can anyone explain how to get the "correct" version of /etc/sysconfig/selinux and/or how to configure it? From gstool at earthlink.net Sun May 9 13:05:33 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 08:05:33 -0500 Subject: Example up2date `sources' In-Reply-To: <409D5F0E.4010604@earthlink.net> References: <1083944157.14139.173.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <409D5F0E.4010604@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <409E2C9D.3010402@earthlink.net> Gerry Tool wrote: > Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Colin Charles writes: >> >> >>> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 01:26, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> >>>> Group, I've fallen way way behind the testing curve ...still on >>>> core1 test2. >>>> My current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources is way out of date. >>> >>> >>> You don't need one - up2date is smart enough to do selection nowadays >> >> >> >> Do what selection? >> >> up2date isn't all that smart here... Installing the latest up2date >> and using its `souces' file results in: >> >> [root] # up2date --list >> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 >> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 >> There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: >> >> An HTTP error occurred: >> URL: >> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info >> >> Status Code: 404 >> Error Message: Not Found >> >> > It looks like you managed to update to the up2date that is all set up > for running your system as FC2, but perhaps without getting all the > other packages that upgrade the system to FC2. My fully updated system > gives the same errors as yours, because it is now supposed to be > essentially an FC2 system. The background wallpaper is now labeled as > Fedora Core 2. > > Perhaps you could uninstall up2date, download a previous version and > install it. Then, run it and get all the package updates that comprise > FC2. Or, perhaps all you need to do is replace the sources in the > config file. > > Good Luck. > > Gerry Tool > > I discovered that there are still updates to be made to 1.92, even though the most recent version of up2date changes the /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file to behave as though FC2 is installed. I added the following line to my sources file and found 40 updates in my case by unchecking the other sources in the up2date window. yum updates-testing ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development Needs to all be on one line in the sources file. Gerry Tool From gstool at earthlink.net Sun May 9 13:12:04 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 08:12:04 -0500 Subject: KDE app icon issues & KMail crashing In-Reply-To: <20040509105130.GF1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> <1084067024.3914.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040509105130.GF1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409E2E24.3010709@earthlink.net> Alan Cox wrote: > On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 09:43:45PM -0400, Rory Gleeson wrote: > >>2) KMail also still gives a Signal 11 and crashes on start-up, which has >>forced me over to Evolution. > > > I saw your report of that but I've been unable to replicate it here at > least. > > KMail 1.6.2 also works just fine for me in a fully updated from the development tree system. Gerry Tool From wtogami at redhat.com Sun May 9 13:15:23 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 03:15:23 -1000 Subject: Suspend to memory: display problem after resume w/ i855 In-Reply-To: <1084107714.2543.12.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> References: <1084107714.2543.12.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <409E2EEB.4090609@redhat.com> What kernel version? Please test with kernel-2.6.5-1.358+. Warren From michael at ywow.org Sun May 9 13:42:28 2004 From: michael at ywow.org (Mike Jang) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 09:42:28 -0400 Subject: Status of CIFS? In-Reply-To: <64518.65.40.71.237.1084077730.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <64518.65.40.71.237.1084077730.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <1084110148.3212.12.camel@Enterprise3> Folks, On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 00:42, William Hooper wrote: > I've got to messing around with CIFS support on FC2T3 and seem to be > having authentication issues (mount error 13 = Permission denied), even > against localhost. I've found a bug about it (119766), but it digresses > into issues with smbfs. Is smbfs going to be the preferred method? First, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question, maybe a Samba newsgroup would be more helpful. From what I've seen, longer term, Microsoft may be moving away from CIFS. They're working on WinFS, to come out with Longhorn probably about 2006. I gather the Samba folks are analyzing the system based on the available Longhorn betas. Microsoft seems to be patenting a number of things related to WinFS. But I think by definition, open source developers are skilled at reverse engineering. So longer term, substantial changes may be coming to smbfs. Thanks, Mike From twanger at bluetwanger.de Sun May 9 14:01:49 2004 From: twanger at bluetwanger.de (Markus Bertheau) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:01:49 +0200 Subject: ASUS S5200N (S5N) laptop Kernel panic after 2.6.5-1.319 In-Reply-To: <409DB416.1010202@rairyu.tk> References: <409DB416.1010202@rairyu.tk> Message-ID: <1084111308.2545.0.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> ? ???, 09.05.2004, ? 06:31, Matthew Faull ?????: > Every new kernel I've got from my yum update, after 2.6.5-1.319 has been > giving me a kernel panic at startup (Last one I tried was 2.6.5-1.356) > on my ASUS S5200N laptop. Its running the latest bios(0210 release). FWIW, the bug is at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121760 -- Markus Bertheau From reader at newsguy.com Sun May 9 14:15:23 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 09:15:23 -0500 Subject: Example up2date `sources' In-Reply-To: <409D5F0E.4010604@earthlink.net> (Gerry Tool's message of "Sat, 08 May 2004 17:28:30 -0500") References: <1083944157.14139.173.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <409D5F0E.4010604@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Gerry Tool writes: [...] > It looks like you managed to update to the up2date that is all set up > for running your system as FC2, but perhaps without getting all the > other packages that upgrade the system to FC2. My fully updated > system gives the same errors as yours, because it is now supposed to > be essentially an FC2 system. The background wallpaper is now labeled > as Fedora Core 2. > > Perhaps you could uninstall up2date, download a previous version and > install it. Then, run it and get all the package updates that > comprise FC2. Or, perhaps all you need to do is replace the sources > in the config file. Thanks for the hint but I had already tried the older up2date. That was what lead to my original post. I see your second post here and am trying that.... thanks From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 9 14:17:41 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:17:41 +0200 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <409E254C.3080200@wowway.com> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084079160.4028.7.camel@binkley> <409E254C.3080200@wowway.com> Message-ID: <409E3D85.3040501@gmx.de> D James wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > >> Up2date's interface makes it difficult to perform certain tasks. For >> updating packages it works a treat, but for selecting new things to be >> packaged and/or removing item it can become a bit cumbersome. >> Something that was discussed on fedora-config-list was if >> system-config-packages interface could be coupled to one of the various >> backends to help with the interface. A redesign of the up2date ui to be >> geared more toward installation/removal/etc of packages instead of just >> updating would also be adequate. > > I definately think system-config-packages needs to be upgraded and > tied into yum and apt. This will make it > a true "Pacakge Managment" tool "system-config-packages" a great name for few features. absolutely correct, we are missing since a very long time a true gui *package management tool* which gives us all the possibilities from rpm, (rpmbuild), up2date, yum, apt, ... - add/remove new rhn-sources: yum, apt, dir, ... - install/update/freshen/remove single/multiple packages via ftp, http, dir, ... - list/search installed/not-installed packages - ... https://listman.redhat.com/archives/shrike-list/2003-May/msg00241.html /Subject/: Re: I'm new, Is there a gnorpm or kpackage available to RH9? [...] eg. # rpm -Uvh ftp://updates.redhat.com/9/en/os/i386/your_packages* it would be great if redhat-config-packages would handle this too https://listman.redhat.com/archives/shrike-list/2003-May/msg00367.html [... I would really like a gui package once again. And I agree with you on wishing redhat-config-packages had these options that were once very used by myself in Kpackage ...] I'm working on a number of improvements to redhat-config-packages at the moment, so I hope to address some of these issues in the near future. Sorry that I don't have anything better for you at the moment. :) Cheers, Brent i could not find these improvements. afair in system-config-packages fc2t1 were some new features, but it seems the these were removed :-( -- shrek-m From kimallamandola at yahoo.it Sun May 9 14:27:32 2004 From: kimallamandola at yahoo.it (=?iso-8859-1?q?kim=20allamandola?=) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:27:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FC2T3 on Dell Latitude C400 Laptop In-Reply-To: <409BC0F9.8080005@vitriolix.com> Message-ID: <20040509142732.77627.qmail@web86407.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --- Josh Steiner wrote: > i'm having the same trouble on my dell inspiron > 8200. i just went and > looked at my xorg.conf and the hsync + vrefresh > lines already were > commented out. > > -josh I have a same problems on Dell Inspiron 8500 (1920x1200) and i fix added this line on xorg.conf ---------------------------------------- Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Dell 1600x1200 Laptop Display Panel" DisplaySize 330 210 HorizSync 31.5 - 100.0 VertRefresh 30.0 - 90.0 Option "dpms" EndSection .... Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" #modes "1920x1200" "1600x1200" Depth 24 Modes "1920x1200" "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" #modes "1920x1200" Depth 16 Modes "1920x1200" "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection I think you can replace "1920x1200" ... with your res. -- Black Hat ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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I've added a couple of ISA bussed parallel port cards >> intended for machine controls to it, but they aren't found by >> isapnp. > >If the cards really are "totally dumb" as you say, then they >don't support PnP. > >> Are there any tools I could use to discover where these >> totally dumb cards are at least addressed at? > >The documentation supplied with the cards explaining the >jumpers/switches used to set the address and IRQ, perhaps? Absolutely no docs. These were extracted from an old proprietary 286 based box when the sealed box was EOL'd. Ex-broadcasting gear. >-- > Markku Kolkka > markku.kolkka at iki.fi -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From reader at newsguy.com Sun May 9 14:34:41 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 09:34:41 -0500 Subject: Example up2date `sources' In-Reply-To: <409E2C9D.3010402@earthlink.net> (Gerry Tool's message of "Sun, 09 May 2004 08:05:33 -0500") References: <1083944157.14139.173.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> <409D5F0E.4010604@earthlink.net> <409E2C9D.3010402@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Gerry Tool writes: [...] >> > I discovered that there are still updates to be made to 1.92, even > though the most recent version of up2date changes the > /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources file to behave as though FC2 is installed. > I added the following line to my sources file and found 40 updates in > my case by unchecking the other sources in the up2date window. > > yum updates-testing > ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development > > Needs to all be on one line in the sources file. Apparently your talking about a gui frontend to up2date above. I've never used it and don't usually install it. I'm guessing the unchecking thing your talking about can be handled by commenting out all but the hiwaay setting above. Aaack... I get a big glob of what looks like python errors here, shown below commentary. Backing up a version or two to: up2date-4.3.11-2.1.1.i386.rpm Seems to solve the problem for me.. I'm now getting reasonable output from up2date commands. -- Error message from latest up2date: exploded! Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1271, in ? sys.exit(main() or 0) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 799, in main fullUpdate, dryRun=options.dry_run)) File "/usr/sbin/up2date", line 1147, in batchRun batch.run() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateBatch.py", line 62, in run self.__findPackagesToUpdate() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/up2dateBatch.py", line 97, in __findPackagesToUpdate plist.addGlobs(self.listOfGlobs) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/packageList.py", line 157, in addGlobs availList = rhnPackageInfo.getAvailablePackageList() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 219, in getAvailablePackageList package_list = availablePackageList( File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 153, in availablePackageList progressCallback = progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpcServer.py", line 112, in doCall ret = apply(method, args, kwargs) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 20, in listPackages return self.handlers[channel['type']].listPackages(channel, msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 226, in listPackages msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 266, in listPackages hdr = rd.getHeader([name,ver,rel,epoch,arch, "0",channel['label']]) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 31, in getHeader return self.handlers[channel['type']].getHeader(pkg, msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 210, in getHeader header = source.getHeader(pkg, progressCallback = progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 101, in getHeader rpmSourceUtils.saveHeader(hdr) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSourceUtils.py", line 24, in saveHeader fileName = "%s/%s.%s.hdr" % (cfg["storageDir"], TypeError: unsubscriptable object From shrek-m at gmx.de Sun May 9 14:45:23 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:45:23 +0200 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <409E4403.7000006@gmx.de> Leonard den Ottolander wrote: >>MySQL has some licensing changes for 4.0 which mean it can't be used >>with php, or apache or many other free but non-GPL pieces of software >>(eg openssl). >> >> >Any update from the legal department on this one? I was under the >impression effort was being put into resolving these issues. By the way, >I don't think there was ever a problem with php. And weren't these >licensing issues with 4.1 instead of 4.0? > eg. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-August/msg00282.html On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Thien Ho wrote: > Hello everyone, > > A few weeks ago, I saw mysql-4.0.13 source RPM in Rawhide. It's gone now. Does > anyone know why? Just curious :). > Its been discussed before. The short answer is the license for the 4.x client libraries was to restrictive (I believe it was GPL rather LGPL) and RedHat and MySQL are trying to work the whole thing out. and thousands other threads with no effect :-( http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/SRPMS/mysql-3.23.58-9.src.rpm http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/opensource-license.html http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/ 3.23 - older production release ----not in fedora---- 4.0 - production release (recommended) ----surely not in the near future in fedora---- 4.1 - Alpha release (use this for new development) 5.0 - Development tree (use this for previewing and testing new features) -- shrek-m From reader at newsguy.com Sun May 9 14:46:16 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 09:46:16 -0500 Subject: test3: I thought selinux was disabled In-Reply-To: <20040509102758.GA1290@nsk.no-ip.org> (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha's message of "Sun, 9 May 2004 11:27:58 +0100") References: <20040505181828.47251.qmail@web90105.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <20040509102758.GA1290@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha writes: > But why remove the "selinux=0" option? It was a feature, to temporarily > disable selinux when needed. But doesn't the comment you replied to indicate it is just done more completely. But can still be set temporarily or do find it is hard to reset? > /etc/sysconfig/selinux SELINUX=disabled can do that, instead of just > leaving selinux enabled without any policy loaded. Before this new Sounds like reseting would only require editing [...]/selinux. And maybe a reboot or possibly just a network restart or a kill -HUP on something. In other words can't you just abandon the Grub technique and use the [...]/selinux edit in the same fashion From varanava at takas.lt Sun May 9 14:48:42 2004 From: varanava at takas.lt (Andrius) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:48:42 +0300 Subject: Gnome-Panel Message-ID: <1084114122.1966.7.camel@skynet.vl> Hello, I recently installed Fedora Core 2 Test3. Firstly, everything was just fine. It is much faster and responsive than Core 1, however, the next day Gnome-Panel died. Every time than I log in it crashes. I tried to reinstall it but this didn't help. Mayby somebody had similar problems? KDE works without problems. What is more, Epiphany browser crashes at start up too (the same was and in Core 1 only this time I crashes after he loads, in Core 1 it didn't load at all). Thanks in advance, Andrius From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun May 9 14:51:10 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 08:51:10 -0600 Subject: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support Message-ID: <001501c435d5$1143d1e0$0200000a@frank> I'm looking for any help whatever on doing a driver diskette for my new P4P800se mobo with a Seagate Sata drive. I have been running with a Promise controller on my old mobo, but I need one for the ich5 now. Any ideas. When I attempt an install with FC2 T3 kernel .img won't do it's thing, I'm guessing that a driver disk is required. Thanks as always, RaXeT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Sun May 9 14:51:48 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 09:51:48 -0500 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <409E4584.6070306@austin.rr.com> seth vidal wrote: >Thanks for the kind words. > > No problem :) >look on the fedora-config-list and you can see some of that discussion >there. > >I've been rewriting considerable portions of yum with this in mind. > >it takes time, b/c I'm trying to keep from making a bunch of the same >mistakes and getting rid of the 'download all the headers' requirement >that everyone seems to hate. > >-sv > > Now that I am subscribed to the Fedora Config list I see that there isn't much traffic so can you summarize for us what has and has not been done? Also what we can do to help you? shrek-m wrote: > absolutely correct, > we are missing since a very long time a true gui *package management > tool* > which gives us all the possibilities from > rpm, (rpmbuild), up2date, yum, apt, ... > > - add/remove new rhn-sources: yum, apt, dir, ... > - install/update/freshen/remove single/multiple packages via ftp, > http, dir, ... > - list/search installed/not-installed packages > - ... > i could not find these improvements. > afair in system-config-packages fc2t1 were some new features, > but it seems the these were removed So are the redhat devs still working on this or should we (the users) take it upon ourselves to start a project on sourceforge? -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 3 *x86_64* From varanava at takas.lt Sun May 9 14:55:58 2004 From: varanava at takas.lt (Andrius) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:55:58 +0300 Subject: Gnome-Panel In-Reply-To: <1084114122.1966.7.camel@skynet.vl> References: <1084114122.1966.7.camel@skynet.vl> Message-ID: <1084114558.1966.9.camel@skynet.vl> I forgot to mention that my fedora installation is x86_64. On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 17:48, Andrius wrote: > Hello, > I recently installed Fedora Core 2 Test3. Firstly, everything was just > fine. It is much faster and responsive than Core 1, however, the next > day Gnome-Panel died. Every time than I log in it crashes. I tried to > reinstall it but this didn't help. Mayby somebody had similar problems? > KDE works without problems. What is more, Epiphany browser crashes at > start up too (the same was and in Core 1 only this time I crashes after > he loads, in Core 1 it didn't load at all). > Thanks in advance, > Andrius > From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Sun May 9 15:07:41 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:07:41 +0100 Subject: test3: I thought selinux was disabled In-Reply-To: References: <20040505181828.47251.qmail@web90105.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <20040509102758.GA1290@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <20040509150741.GA10395@nsk.no-ip.org> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 09:46:16AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha writes: > > > But why remove the "selinux=0" option? It was a feature, to temporarily > > disable selinux when needed. > > But doesn't the comment you replied to indicate it is just done more > completely. But can still be set temporarily or do find it is hard > to reset? > > > /etc/sysconfig/selinux SELINUX=disabled can do that, instead of just > > leaving selinux enabled without any policy loaded. Before this new > > Sounds like reseting would only require editing [...]/selinux. And > maybe a reboot or possibly just a network restart or a kill -HUP on > something. > > In other words can't you just abandon the Grub technique and use the > [...]/selinux edit in the same fashion Not if selinux doesn't let me :) Regards, Luciano Rocha From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Sun May 9 15:10:41 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:10:41 +0200 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <409E4403.7000006@gmx.de> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> <409E4403.7000006@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1084115440.4753.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Shrek, > >Any update from the legal department on this one? I was under the > >impression effort was being put into resolving these issues. By the way, > >I don't think there was ever a problem with php. And weren't these > >licensing issues with 4.1 instead of 4.0? > eg. > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-August/msg00282.html You can hardly call that an update. I am aware of the multitudes of threads that have been spent on this issue. But since MySQL AB was giving the impression they were willing to resolve these issues I am asking for an update on the legal situation. Update as in information on new developments. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From markmc at redhat.com Sun May 9 13:42:21 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 14:42:21 +0100 Subject: Gnome-Panel In-Reply-To: <1084114122.1966.7.camel@skynet.vl> References: <1084114122.1966.7.camel@skynet.vl> Message-ID: <1084110140.3073.9.camel@laptop> Hi, On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 15:48, Andrius wrote: > Hello, > I recently installed Fedora Core 2 Test3. Firstly, everything was just > fine. It is much faster and responsive than Core 1, however, the next > day Gnome-Panel died. Every time than I log in it crashes. Its probably this gnome-vfs2 bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120014 Try updating to gnome-vfs2-2.6.0-6. Let me know if the problem goes away. Thanks, Mark. From foolish at guezz.net Sun May 9 15:24:23 2004 From: foolish at guezz.net (Sindre Pedersen Bjordal) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:24:23 +0200 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> ons, 05.05.2004 kl. 22.37 skrev Paul: > Hi, > > Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono > with FC2? Really would make it a knockout product then IMO. > > TTFN > > Paul To me this is yet another example of how much we need fedora-extras. If we could have this one place to get add-on packages for fedora we wouldn't have these kind of trouble. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dette er en digitalt signert meldingsdel URL: From e.mergl at bawue.de Sun May 9 15:30:32 2004 From: e.mergl at bawue.de (Edmund Mergl) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:30:32 +0200 Subject: cannot execute binary file Message-ID: <409E4E98.2030703@bawue.de> can anyone shed some light on this: [root at fc2]# su - mergl /bin/date /bin/date: /bin/date: cannot execute binary file this happens with any executable unless it's a script. Edmnund From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Sun May 9 15:36:12 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:36:12 +0100 Subject: cannot execute binary file In-Reply-To: <409E4E98.2030703@bawue.de> References: <409E4E98.2030703@bawue.de> Message-ID: <20040509153612.GA11575@nsk.no-ip.org> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 05:30:32PM +0200, Edmund Mergl wrote: > can anyone shed some light on this: > > [root at fc2]# su - mergl /bin/date > /bin/date: /bin/date: cannot execute binary file > > this happens with any executable unless it's a script. /bin/date is passed as an argument to the shell: /bin/bash /bin/date What you want is: su - mergl -c /bin/date that runs: /bin/bash -c /bin/date Regards, Luciano Rocha From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun May 9 16:08:01 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:08:01 -0400 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa791040509090871190486@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 09 May 2004 17:24:23 +0200, Sindre Pedersen Bjordal > To me this is yet another example of how much we need fedora-extras. If > we could have this one place to get add-on packages for fedora we > wouldn't have these kind of trouble. fedora.us exists right now, it can be used right now. As much as everyone would like to see fedora extras open up as an official part of this project, nothing is stopping from community members from rolling packages and submitting them to the fedora.us. This is not one of the things that has to wait for infrastructure to be done, whoever is interested in packaging and maintaining mono can become invovled in fedora.us right now, before the merger into fedora extras is completed. -jef From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun May 9 16:09:40 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 18:09:40 +0200 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040509180940.3a131a10.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sun, 09 May 2004 17:24:23 +0200, Sindre Pedersen Bjordal wrote: > ons, 05.05.2004 kl. 22.37 skrev Paul: > > Hi, > > > > Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono > > with FC2? Really would make it a knockout product then IMO. > > > > TTFN > > > > Paul > > To me this is yet another example of how much we need fedora-extras. If > we could have this one place to get add-on packages for fedora we > wouldn't have these kind of trouble. http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/ Roadmap for Participation [...] You can also contribute packages using the process to the older Fedora Linux project with which the Fedora Project will be merging. In other words, work on getting packages published via http://fedora.us which is a good opportunity to start preparing/testing packages early. From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Wed May 5 19:01:08 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian R Smith) Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:01:08 -0400 Subject: FC2-dev - ESD - DOES ANY ONE HAVE AN ANSWER??? In-Reply-To: <40993759.6000203@adtran.com> References: <72n056so3n.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082473862.5832.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72isfusmoe.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082475093.5832.3.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72hdveeir4.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082477794.10690.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72d662ef7a.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1083161793.31700.58.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72hduwwe81.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <40993759.6000203@adtran.com> Message-ID: <409939F4.5080402@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> I have tried this message _three_ times and still have not received a reply. In FC2, will ESD only support ALSA or will it support ALSA and OSS? I insist on using the OSS drivers because the ALSA snd-intel8x0 driver _sucks_ on my laptop (ACPI conflicts, poor sound quality, etc). Someone please let me know whats up with ESD. Brian Smith From varanava at takas.lt Sun May 9 16:20:04 2004 From: varanava at takas.lt (Andrius) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 19:20:04 +0300 Subject: Gnome-Panel In-Reply-To: <1084110140.3073.9.camel@laptop> References: <1084114122.1966.7.camel@skynet.vl> <1084110140.3073.9.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <1084119604.23325.1.camel@skynet.vl> Yes, update solved the problem. No panel works again. Thank you, Andrius On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 16:42, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 15:48, Andrius wrote: > > Hello, > > I recently installed Fedora Core 2 Test3. Firstly, everything was just > > fine. It is much faster and responsive than Core 1, however, the next > > day Gnome-Panel died. Every time than I log in it crashes. > > Its probably this gnome-vfs2 bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120014 > > Try updating to gnome-vfs2-2.6.0-6. Let me know if the problem goes > away. > > Thanks, > Mark. > From vslim at insightbb.com Sun May 9 16:23:36 2004 From: vslim at insightbb.com (slim) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 11:23:36 -0500 Subject: New Kernel update Message-ID: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> Hi all, I just updated via yum and received these packages, [install: kernel 2.6.5-1.358.i686] [install: kernel-source 2.6.5-1.358.i386] [update: unixODBC 2.2.8-5.i386] I hadn't paid attention before I guess, But shouldn't the source be kernel-source 2.6.5-1.358.i686? From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 16:24:32 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:24:32 -0400 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040509162432.GA28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 02:38:06PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Any update from the legal department on this one? I was under the > impression effort was being put into resolving these issues. By the way, Im not directly a part to any discussions nor do I know if they exist at the moment. From brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu Sun May 9 15:57:34 2004 From: brian at cypher.acomp.usf.edu (Brian Smith) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 11:57:34 -0400 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <409E54EE.8080305@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Sindre Pedersen Bjordal wrote: >ons, 05.05.2004 kl. 22.37 skrev Paul: > > >>Hi, >> >>Given it is getting close to the 1.0 release, how about including mono >>with FC2? Really would make it a knockout product then IMO. >> >>TTFN >> >>Paul >> >> > >To me this is yet another example of how much we need fedora-extras. If >we could have this one place to get add-on packages for fedora we >wouldn't have these kind of trouble. > > Well, if we could get a group together to work on that and set up a repository, I've plenty of space and bandwidth that the university I work for would let me use. We could set up an apt/yum repository and get some maintainers together to build solid rpms, get some other people to test them and have a real release cycle. I have a LUG on campus and those guys might be interested in doing just that. I also have some of my production software that I have written for beowulf systems that could be included as well. It might also be worth a try to check the licensing for the Sun/IBM jre's and jdk's so they can be properly packaged, as well as the plethora of browser plugins so that installation of these plugins would be much easier. Mono would be great to include as well as some of the GTK# and Mono apps that have been written. Unfortunately, with the exception of a few packages, most of those apps would have to be relegated to a development repository for now due to stability. If anyone is interested in this, let me know. Brian Smith From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sun May 9 16:30:03 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 12:30:03 -0400 Subject: KMail crashing - Signal 11 Message-ID: <1084120202.3945.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thanks, Alan and Gerry. Good to know it's isolated. Can you suggest the easiest way to remove KMail and then re-install the latest version, especially given the changes in the .sources to Core 2 in the latest round of updates. I tried uninstalling KMail from "Applications Add/Remove" but it seems to bundle KMail in something else and its CD-specific, not pointing to repositories (That's my vote for a a single Yum front-end or revised up2date that covers all of these tasks). When testing MDK 10.0, I was able to isolate/remove/add Kontact and KMail through their packages manager. No such luck with Fedora, so I've been stuck. Any suggestions for a newbie would be welcomed. Rory ========= Message: 16 Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 08:12:04 -0500 From: Gerry Tool Subject: Re: KDE app icon issues & KMail crashing To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: <409E2E24.3010709 at earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Alan Cox wrote: > On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 09:43:45PM -0400, Rory Gleeson wrote: > >>2) KMail also still gives a Signal 11 and crashes on start-up, which has >>forced me over to Evolution. > > > I saw your report of that but I've been unable to replicate it here at > least. > > >>KMail 1.6.2 also works just fine for me in a fully updated from the >>development tree system. >>Gerry Tool From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 16:30:37 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:30:37 -0400 Subject: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support In-Reply-To: <001501c435d5$1143d1e0$0200000a@frank> References: <001501c435d5$1143d1e0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <20040509163037.GC28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 08:51:10AM -0600, raxet wrote: > I have been running with a Promise controller on my old mobo, but I need one > for the ich5 now. Any ideas. When ICH5 SATA should work From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 16:31:25 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:31:25 -0400 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <1084115440.4753.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> <409E4403.7000006@gmx.de> <1084115440.4753.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040509163125.GD28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 05:10:41PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > threads that have been spent on this issue. But since MySQL AB was > giving the impression they were willing to resolve these issues I am > asking for an update on the legal situation. Update as in information on > new developments. I'd assume a mysql list is the place to ask ? From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 16:34:16 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:34:16 -0400 Subject: New Kernel update In-Reply-To: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> References: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> Message-ID: <20040509163416.GE28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> > I hadn't paid attention before I guess, But shouldn't > the source be kernel-source 2.6.5-1.358.i686? You only need one set of kernel source - and the source installs on all x86 platforms. From vslim at insightbb.com Sun May 9 16:41:49 2004 From: vslim at insightbb.com (slim) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 11:41:49 -0500 Subject: New Kernel update In-Reply-To: <20040509163416.GE28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> <20040509163416.GE28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084120908.3671.5.camel@shovelhead.tkl> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 11:34, Alan Cox wrote: > > I hadn't paid attention before I guess, But shouldn't > > the source be kernel-source 2.6.5-1.358.i686? > > You only need one set of kernel source - and the source installs on > all x86 platforms. > Thank you From darren at dzr-web.com Sun May 9 16:42:26 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:42:26 +0100 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <409E54EE.8080305@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <409E54EE.8080305@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Message-ID: <1084120945.4837.4.camel@excession.dzr> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 16:57, Brian Smith wrote: > Mono would be great to include as well as some of the GTK# and Mono apps > that have been written. Unfortunately, with the exception of a few > packages, most of those apps would have to be relegated to a development > repository for now due to stability. According to http://www.go-mono.com/road-to-1.0.html Novell/Ximian will be providing packages for FC1 and FC2 (once it is released) so I don't see why we would need to set up a repository. Red Carpet is available for FC1 and presumably will be for FC2, and all you need to do is to subscribe to the mono channel. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun May 9 16:48:10 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Status of CIFS? In-Reply-To: <1084110148.3212.12.camel@Enterprise3> References: <64518.65.40.71.237.1084077730.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <1084110148.3212.12.camel@Enterprise3> Message-ID: <64647.65.40.71.237.1084121290.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Mike Jang said: > Folks, > > On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 00:42, William Hooper wrote: >> I've got to messing around with CIFS support on FC2T3 and seem to be >> having authentication issues (mount error 13 = Permission denied), even >> against localhost. I've found a bug about it (119766), but it digresses >> into issues with smbfs. Is smbfs going to be the preferred method? > > First, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question, maybe > a Samba newsgroup would be more helpful. From what I've seen, longer > term, Microsoft may be moving away from CIFS. You are mistaken. CIFS is the replacement for SMB. > They're working on WinFS, WinFS is a file system, not a network protocol. -- William Hooper From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun May 9 16:48:22 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:48:22 -0400 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <409E54EE.8080305@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <409E54EE.8080305@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Message-ID: <604aa79104050909486f59bd1f@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 09 May 2004 11:57:34 -0400, Brian Smith > Well, if we could get a group together to work on that and set up a > repository, Yep thats exactly what we need.... yet another 3rd party addon repository. Fedora.us is there, use it. Fedora.us is going to become Fedora Extras, use it now. And if whatever you want to package is not distributable in the US but is distributable in Europe, use rpm.livna.org's community process. -jef"off to re-invent the wheel"spaleta From czar at czarc.net Sun May 9 16:50:06 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:50:06 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <1084079392.2326.10.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084079160.4028.7.camel@binkley> <1084079392.2326.10.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <200405091250.06834.czar@czarc.net> On Sunday 09 May 2004 01:09, Mike Chambers wrote: > I think the installing of new packages via UI is def missing from > up2date as mentioned by others. Actually up2date does have a "sort of" add new packages capability although it does not work well since you need to have an outstanding update available to get it to work. The "--show-package-dialog" command line option whill show all available packages after the one which displays available updates. I agree that something needs to be done to provide a single, overall gui tool to update, install, and/or remove packages. There was some discussion about this on the fedora-config-list but nothing has come of it. There was mention of a new design underway which more or less combined up2date and system-config-packages but the mentioned design has never been published ... I suspect that getting FC2 working and out the door took priority. There was some design stuff published last Novermber: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/specs/redhat-config-packages -- Gene From czar at czarc.net Sun May 9 16:52:49 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:52:49 -0400 Subject: x86_64: latetest kernel update 356 didn't modify grub.conf In-Reply-To: <1084051845.5229.5.camel@littlePiet> References: <1084051845.5229.5.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <200405091252.49943.czar@czarc.net> On Saturday 08 May 2004 17:30, Peter Boy wrote: > Today I upgraded the kernel [AMD64] to 2.6.5-1.353 and later to 1.356. > Both upgrades didn't modify /etc/boot/grub.conf. I had to add the > corresponding lines manually. Did someone else had this issue or could > someone upgrade without that issue (and something may be broken here). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115253 -- Gene From michael at ywow.org Sun May 9 16:57:34 2004 From: michael at ywow.org (Mike Jang) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 12:57:34 -0400 Subject: Status of CIFS? In-Reply-To: <64647.65.40.71.237.1084121290.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <64518.65.40.71.237.1084077730.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <1084110148.3212.12.camel@Enterprise3> <64647.65.40.71.237.1084121290.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <1084121854.3212.24.camel@Enterprise3> Dear William, On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 12:48, William Hooper wrote: > Mike Jang said: > > Folks, > > > > On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 00:42, William Hooper wrote: > > They're working on WinFS, > > WinFS is a file system, not a network protocol. Even though WinFS is a file system, it is seen as a threat to interoperability with Linux/Unix systems, and the Samba folks are at work on the issue. While it's difficult to predict the result a couple of years ahead of time, I suspect that there will be significant changes to smbfs (which I think was the original question) in that time frame. I think Microsoft wants to prevent its userbase from moving to Linux, and I think CIFS works too well with Linux in their view. That is why I suspect that Microsoft is going to move away from CIFS. If you have more up-to-date information, I'd like to know. Thanks, Mike From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sun May 9 17:04:39 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 10:04:39 -0700 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405091004.39738.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 May 2004 08:24, Sindre Pedersen Bjordal wrote: > To me this is yet another example of how much we need fedora-extras. If > we could have this one place to get add-on packages for fedora we > wouldn't have these kind of trouble. Fedora Extras is not the place for packages that are kept out of Fedora due to legal issues. Fedora Extras and Fedora Alternatives must adhere to the same legal restrictions that Fedora Core does. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAnmSn4v2HLvE71NURAqIZAKCbuP3Xp5wDNTimPe9fdwHX6xrllACght8Z UtZreUqZRxoA4HZZSqMURpM= =IDXz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From console at spray.se Sun May 9 17:07:43 2004 From: console at spray.se (Daniel) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 19:07:43 +0200 Subject: Install drivers In-Reply-To: <200405091252.49943.czar@czarc.net> References: <1084051845.5229.5.camel@littlePiet> <200405091252.49943.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1084122463.3728.8.camel@koskenkorva> Hi folks I tried to install the FC2 3 and was suprised to see the small amount of supported drivers in the installer. Nor was I able to access my advansys scsi-card nor the VIA Rhine NIC. So I ended up in a dead end. Will there be more drivers released to the final version? /Daniel From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sun May 9 17:16:42 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 13:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Status of CIFS? In-Reply-To: <1084121854.3212.24.camel@Enterprise3> References: <64518.65.40.71.237.1084077730.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <1084110148.3212.12.camel@Enterprise3> <64647.65.40.71.237.1084121290.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <1084121854.3212.24.camel@Enterprise3> Message-ID: <65139.65.40.71.237.1084123002.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Mike Jang said: > Dear William, > > On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 12:48, William Hooper wrote: >> Mike Jang said: >> > Folks, >> > >> > On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 00:42, William Hooper wrote: >> > They're working on WinFS, >> >> WinFS is a file system, not a network protocol. > > Even though WinFS is a file system, it is seen as a threat to > interoperability with Linux/Unix systems, and the Samba folks are at > work on the issue. But it has nothing to do with the current question. > While it's difficult to predict the result a couple of years ahead of > time, I suspect that there will be significant changes to smbfs (which I > think was the original question) in that time frame. No that wasn't the original question. The original question was if SMB has moved back to being preferred over CIFS for Fedora Core 2. The earlier FC plans were to migrate to CIFS, but support for it seems to be broken. -- William Hooper From michael at ywow.org Sun May 9 17:26:02 2004 From: michael at ywow.org (Mike Jang) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 13:26:02 -0400 Subject: Status of CIFS? In-Reply-To: <65139.65.40.71.237.1084123002.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <64518.65.40.71.237.1084077730.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <1084110148.3212.12.camel@Enterprise3> <64647.65.40.71.237.1084121290.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <1084121854.3212.24.camel@Enterprise3> <65139.65.40.71.237.1084123002.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <1084123483.3212.32.camel@Enterprise3> Dear William, On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 13:16, William Hooper wrote: > No that wasn't the original question. The original question was if SMB > has moved back to being preferred over CIFS for Fedora Core 2. The > earlier FC plans were to migrate to CIFS, but support for it seems to be > broken. I appreciate your clarification. I did not mean to misread your question, and hope my answers have not added to any frustration you have on this issue. I still suspect that the Samba mailing lists might be more helpful. I think they're up to date on Fedora developments with Samba. But if I were in your place, I might try here also, as I don't know if Red Hat folks like Brent Fox or Havoc are on the Samba mailing lists. Thanks, Mike From cfzeitler at yahoo.com Sun May 9 17:34:36 2004 From: cfzeitler at yahoo.com (charles f. zeitler) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 10:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: xcdroast & resolution conflict Message-ID: <20040509173436.75401.qmail@web80401.mail.yahoo.com> xcdroast says it needs 800x600, therefor it won't open, but my xorg.conf & XF86Config both indicate i _have_ 800x600. charles zeitler cfzeitler at yahoo.com ===== : Do What Thou Wilt : : Shall Be : : The Whole of The Law : From reg at dwf.com Sun May 9 17:41:36 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 11:41:36 -0600 Subject: xcdroast & resolution conflict In-Reply-To: Message from "charles f. zeitler" of "Sun, 09 May 2004 10:34:36 PDT." <20040509173436.75401.qmail@web80401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200405091741.i49Hfape023767@orion.dwf.com> > xcdroast says it needs 800x600, > therefor it won't open, > but my xorg.conf & XF86Config > both indicate i _have_ 800x600. > > I dont know, Ive never seen that message from xcdroast before, but the difference could be borders. -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From josh at vitriolix.com Sun May 9 18:08:28 2004 From: josh at vitriolix.com (Josh Steiner) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 11:08:28 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on Dell Latitude C400 Laptop In-Reply-To: <409C02E8.9000601@vitriolix.com> References: <409AD0C2.50208@khmer.cc> <20040507024223.GT14937@nemesis.maddog.net> <20040507062210.GK7428@harry.phil-anderson.com> <409BC0F9.8080005@vitriolix.com> <409C02E8.9000601@vitriolix.com> Message-ID: <409E739C.9060809@vitriolix.com> oh yeah, removing the comments of course (i read that wrong in the earlier message) fixed the problem... Josh Steiner wrote: > i found a bug in bugzilla with the same problem: > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122770 > > > Josh Steiner wrote: > >> i'm having the same trouble on my dell inspiron 8200. i just went >> and looked at my xorg.conf and the hsync + vrefresh lines already >> were commented out. >> >> -josh >> >> Phil Anderson wrote: >> >>> Try to uncomment the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in your >>> /etc/X11/xorg.conf. >>> >>> There are several bugzilla entries about this, and probably 6 or 7 >>> people who have posted to fedora-test-list about this. Apparently >>> it is >>> because of a bug in pyxf86config. >>> >>> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:42:23PM -0400, Philip Balister wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Anyway I have the 1400x1050 display and it appears to be in the >>>> right mode, >>>> but the display config only has picks for 640x480 and 800x600. I >>>> selected >>>> Dell 1400x1050 LCD during install. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > From aoliva at redhat.com Sun May 9 18:21:49 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 09 May 2004 15:21:49 -0300 Subject: RHN Applet freezes In-Reply-To: <1084084400.5232.17.camel@littlePiet> References: <1084069951.2326.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1084084400.5232.17.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: On May 9, 2004, Peter Boy wrote: > Am So, den 09.05.2004 schrieb Mike Chambers um 04:32: >> I noticed that after a reboot or restarting the rhn_applet, that it >> initially works, but after the computer has been running a bit, it >> freezes. As in you can't left or right click on it and it doesn't >> change to show updates are available. > Same problem here - sometimes. And often it will work again later (if I > don't pay any attention to it for some period of time). I can't > reproduce the phenomenon reliably. I suppose the applet is busy with > communication tasks (contacting the server which doesn't respond / is > overloaded) and doesn't react to the GUI (design flaw of the program or > the python rumtime?). It runs with low priority (high nice number), so if your machine is busy with other stuff, the RHN Applet won't get much (or any) CPU, and will appear to be frozen just like that. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From smearp at mac.com Sun May 9 18:35:21 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 11:35:21 -0700 Subject: redhat-email.png icon under non-Bluecurve theme? In-Reply-To: <409DF0EC.3000403@khmer.cc> References: <409DF0EC.3000403@khmer.cc> Message-ID: It's linked to the same place for me... With FC2 Test 1, (which was using Evolution 1.5.x), this link was broken (as it explicitly links to the 1.4 version), and as such, threw up an error message every time I tried to change themes. Fedora has since reverted to the 1.4 version, so it fixes this bug, but uninstalling evolution will cause the problems you see. I guess the powers that be just assume you/we will just use the default email client... Heaven forbid you want to switch to Thunderbird at the expense of Evolution... -Sean :) On May 9, 2004, at 1:50 AM, Vibol Hou wrote: > Can you guys tell me what the following file for you is linked to? > > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/redhat-email.png > > Mine is linked to /usr/share/evolution/1.4/glade/evolution.png even > though I don't have Evolution installed (I uninstalled it). > > I'm curious to know if this is a bug since uninstalling an application > shouldn't remove a system icon. I don't see any other references to > *email* files other than those found in the Bluecurve themes. > > -Vibol > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > GPG public key: From smearp at mac.com Sun May 9 18:40:13 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 11:40:13 -0700 Subject: KDE app icon issues & KMail crashing In-Reply-To: <20040509105130.GF1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040509004746.3056E73F12@hormel.redhat.com> <1084067024.3914.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040509105130.GF1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4ECC9898-A1E8-11D8-9C02-000393C34F68@mac.com> Although I am a Thunderbird man myself, KMail starts up just fine for me as well. -Sean On May 9, 2004, at 3:51 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 09:43:45PM -0400, Rory Gleeson wrote: >> 2) KMail also still gives a Signal 11 and crashes on start-up, which >> has >> forced me over to Evolution. > > I saw your report of that but I've been unable to replicate it here at > least. GPG public key: From smearp at mac.com Sun May 9 18:51:10 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 11:51:10 -0700 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <409E254C.3080200@wowway.com> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084079160.4028.7.camel@binkley> <409E254C.3080200@wowway.com> Message-ID: SuSE just (or is in the process of) GPL'ing it's YAST tool (which combines the basic functions of Anaconda, system-config-packages, and up2date/yum) http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top (donning flame suite now...) -Sean ;) On May 9, 2004, at 5:34 AM, D James wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > >> Up2date's interface makes it difficult to perform certain tasks. For >> updating packages it works a treat, but for selecting new things to be >> packaged and/or removing item it can become a bit cumbersome. >> Something that was discussed on fedora-config-list was if >> system-config-packages interface could be coupled to one of the >> various >> backends to help with the interface. A redesign of the up2date ui to >> be >> geared more toward installation/removal/etc of packages instead of >> just >> updating would also be adequate. >> >> -sv >> >> > > I definately think system-config-packages needs to be upgraded and > tied into yum and apt. This will make it a true "Pacakge Managment" > tool GPG public key: From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun May 9 19:15:41 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 13:15:41 -0600 Subject: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support In-Reply-To: <20040509163037.GC28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <000001c435fa$055e9fc0$0200000a@frank> It doesn't work on a new mobo P4P800 with no other drive but SATA. I'm doing a FRESH install over an already partitioned FC2 T3. Take that. :) IOW, I need to somehow create the dd (driver disk) and then do one of those funky installs that drive everyone absolutely crazy. What happens currently: FC2 T3 install CD 1 in drive, select graphical install, trys to uncompress the kernel and voila, NADA. RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:31 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 08:51:10AM -0600, raxet wrote: > I have been running with a Promise controller on my old mobo, but I need one > for the ich5 now. Any ideas. When ICH5 SATA should work -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From tibbs at math.uh.edu Sun May 9 19:22:44 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 09 May 2004 14:22:44 -0500 Subject: New Kernel update In-Reply-To: <20040509163416.GE28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> <20040509163416.GE28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "AC" == Alan Cox writes: AC> You only need one set of kernel source - and the source installs AC> on all x86 platforms. Actually, why isn't kernel-source noarch? There shouldn't be any compiled binaries in it. - J< From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sun May 9 19:26:33 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 15:26:33 -0400 Subject: rpm -e taking ages In-Reply-To: <200405091233.50146.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <1084098777.1815.14.camel@T7.linux> <200405091233.50146.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1084130793.3875.6.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 12:33 +0100, Andy Green wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sunday 09 May 2004 11:32, Paul wrote: > > > rpm -e kernel-2.6.5-1.315 kernel-source-2.6.5-1.315 > > kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.315 > > > > it can take upto 9 minutes to do the operation? I'm using a 1.7GHz > > Celeron with 768Mb of memory if that helps. > > I realize this sounds a little bizarre, but is it possible you deleted some > files belonging to these or another kernel version? Eg, > rm-rf /usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.315 ? I have seen rpm become very displeased > with me under these circumstances, next time a related -e was attempted. > Have also notices rpm -e operations on kernel/kernel-source can take a LONG time. Not a very apparent/strong correlation to the CPU/disk setup, single processor or SMP, although disk speed in particular is obviously a factor for big packages like kernel-source. The slow response happens even when the neither the source directory nor /boot has been touched. Phil From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Sun May 9 19:31:21 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 20:31:21 +0100 Subject: Grub Message-ID: <200405092031.21968.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> Anyone tell me why grub contains both menu.lst and grub.conf which are linked files..Why both ?? -- Regards Ted Wager Using Fedora Linux From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun May 9 19:31:44 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 14:31:44 -0500 Subject: Anybody got this bug while SELINUX=enforcing Message-ID: <409E8720.4060608@sbcglobal.net> Clicking on /System Tools/More System Tools/FileManager-Superuser-Mode, While in SELINUX=enforcing, KonquerorSU won't execute, can't get window to popup to type in SU password. and after about ten seconds app. quits ruuning. Set SELINUX=permissive, and reboot, log back into KDE and then run KonquerorSU and it will execute. In /MenuEditor/SystemTools/MoreSystemTools/FileManger-SuperuserMode/ It is selected to run as "root" I have submitted this to Bugzilla #122872. ANYBODY??? Jim Tate From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Sun May 9 19:36:21 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 20:36:21 +0100 Subject: Grub In-Reply-To: <200405092031.21968.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> References: <200405092031.21968.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> Message-ID: <20040509193621.GB20746@nsk.no-ip.org> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 08:31:21PM +0100, Ted wrote: > Anyone tell me why grub contains both menu.lst and grub.conf which > are linked files..Why both ?? menu.lst because that's what's used by default on grub, grub.conf because that also goes in /etc as a symbolic lynk, and it's a saner name than menu.lst. Regards, Luciano Rocha From rezso at rdsor.ro Sun May 9 19:39:05 2004 From: rezso at rdsor.ro (Balint Cristian) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:39:05 +0300 Subject: RPM multiarch/multilib Q (x864_64 vs sparc64 lands) Message-ID: <200405092239.05112.rezso@rdsor.ro> Hi ! I would like to Q and clarify for me how multilib/multiarch work. As I experience practicaly, if I have x86_64 glibc instaled on an amd64 for e.g i take rpm -ivh glibc*i686 and no problem rpm "decide" to not conflict with x86_64 and install smoothly inteligently, guessing that ppc/ppc64 too works in the same way (dont have the hw to play) If I do "yum list | grep glibc-" I will see clearly it is there booth i686 and x86_64. I have problems doing this on sparc/sparc64 lands in a FC2T3 enviroment (wich maintained for myself): I allready have glibc-2.3.3-25.sparc.rpm installed but I want 64 bit ones too: ------------------------------------------//////////--------------------------> [root at sun RPMS]# rpm -ivh sparc64/glibc-2.3.3-25.sparc64.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] package glibc-2.3.3-25 is already installed file /sbin/ldconfig from install of glibc-2.3.3-25 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.3.3-25 file /sbin/sln from install of glibc-2.3.3-25 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.3.3-25 file /usr/sbin/glibc_post_upgrade from install of glibc-2.3.3-25 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.3.3-25 file /usr/sbin/iconvconfig from install of glibc-2.3.3-25 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.3.3-25 -----------------------------------------/////////--------------------------------------> I know is little bit I am maybe offtopic because FC not suport yet sparcs: It is clear that not work in case of sparc64/sparc, but again the Q: this multilib is done from sort of rpmrc script or some other macro file or must see rpm sourcecode whats happening there ? Maybe someone lead me to exact source of problem. Any hint/suggestion is welcome ! as Obs,i was using rpm-4.3.1-0.1 to be no doubt. Thanks, cristian. From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sun May 9 19:46:09 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 15:46:09 -0400 Subject: 1. Re: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) In-Reply-To: <20040509105749.GH1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040509023747.DFWH11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> <200405082157.39557.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <20040509105749.GH1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084131969.3875.9.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 06:57 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > Final fedora core 1 was named - Yarrow in this case. The tests carry boring > version info. The actual naming is non trivial because it involves such joys > as trademark searching. Apparently if we call Fedora 2 "Solaris" we get sued > even if we name it after the film 8) Has the Red Hat version naming relationship chain been broken? http://www.hexod.com/linuxnames.htm http://freshrpms.net/misc/redhat-releases/?explain=on Phil From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Sun May 9 19:52:28 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 20:52:28 +0100 Subject: Grub In-Reply-To: <20040509193621.GB20746@nsk.no-ip.org> References: <200405092031.21968.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> <20040509193621.GB20746@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <200405092052.28775.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> On Sunday 09 May 2004 20:36, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote: > On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 08:31:21PM +0100, Ted wrote: > > Anyone tell me why grub contains both menu.lst and grub.conf which > > are linked files..Why both ?? > > menu.lst because that's what's used by default on grub, > > grub.conf because that also goes in /etc as a symbolic lynk, and it's a > saner name than menu.lst. > > Regards, > Luciano Rocha Thanks for the info..I realise the default is menu.lst but none of my other distros seem to have the grub.conf file so I just wondered why it was needed in Fedora... -- Regards Ted Wager Using Fedora Linux From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun May 9 19:54:34 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: rpm will not let me sign packages Message-ID: <20040509195434.97277.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- is this a bug? [root at markf78 home]# rpm --addsign ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm: i'm wondering if perhaps the syntax has changed to sign an rpm post-build but there's no mention of this in the man page. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks... mark. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun May 9 19:58:53 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:58:53 +0200 Subject: New Kernel update In-Reply-To: References: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> <20040509163416.GE28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040509215853.07086890.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On 09 May 2004 14:22:44 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > AC> You only need one set of kernel source - and the source installs > AC> on all x86 platforms. > > Actually, why isn't kernel-source noarch? There shouldn't be any > compiled binaries in it. Buildarch of the kernel src.rpm is ix86 and then the kernel-source package cannot be noarch. From jos at xos.nl Sun May 9 19:59:15 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:59:15 +0200 Subject: rpm will not let me sign packages In-Reply-To: <20040509195434.97277.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com>; from markf78@yahoo.com on Sun, May 09, 2004 at 12:54:34PM -0700 References: <20040509195434.97277.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040509215915.A10226@xos037.xos.nl> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 12:54:34PM -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > [root at markf78 home]# rpm --addsign ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm > ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm: And? You don't say what the reason is why you think it doesn't work, this looks ok... -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sun May 9 20:13:44 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:13:44 -0400 Subject: FC2-dev - ESD - DOES ANY ONE HAVE AN ANSWER??? In-Reply-To: <409939F4.5080402@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> References: <72n056so3n.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082473862.5832.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72isfusmoe.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082475093.5832.3.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72hdveeir4.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1082477794.10690.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72d662ef7a.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <1083161793.31700.58.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <72hduwwe81.fsf@alexk.eng.demon.net> <40993759.6000203@adtran.com> <409939F4.5080402@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> Message-ID: <1084133624.3875.17.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:01 -0400, Brian R Smith wrote: > I have tried this message _three_ times and still have not received a reply. > > In FC2, will ESD only support ALSA or will it support ALSA and OSS? I > insist on using the OSS drivers because the ALSA snd-intel8x0 driver > _sucks_ on my laptop (ACPI conflicts, poor sound quality, etc). > > Someone please let me know whats up with ESD. Can't give a direct answer as I don't know, and sympathize with your frustration, but can only offer some suggestions to increase the probability of getting an answer: 1. Read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 2. Don't SHOUT. 3. Fix your clock (or mail transport?) so your message is not showing it's from several days in the past. Phil From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Sun May 9 20:15:37 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 23:15:37 +0300 Subject: Installing a new kernel Message-ID: <1084133737.17990.4.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> IIRC, in the past when I installed a new kernel via yum, I got a message that said that grub was found and updated to reflect the new kernel. I installed the last few kernels using up2date. My Logwatch tells me that lilo was updated. Since my grub conf was indeed updated I am curious if this is just a bad message or something really happened with lilo. From eugen at leitl.org Sun May 9 20:18:12 2004 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:18:12 +0200 Subject: FC2 test3 x86_64 ATI 9600 dual head support Message-ID: <20040509201812.GN25728@leitl.org> Howdy, just installed FC test 3 x86_64 on an Athlon 64 Asus K8V SE Deluxe (using onboard SATA host adaptor (no RAID), and a WD 36 GByte SATA drive). No problems so far, but for lack of dual-head support with ATI Radeon 9600. I see from the archives other people did succeed. Can anyone send me a working xorg.conf for a dual-head setup? Thanks! -- Eugen* Leitl leitl ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun May 9 20:18:50 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 13:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: how to submit packages to fedora.us? In-Reply-To: <20040509171654.5662E73D5A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040509201850.837.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- > fedora.us exists right now, it can be used right now. > As much as everyone would like to see fedora extras open up as an > official part of this project, nothing is stopping from community > members from rolling packages and submitting them to the fedora.us. how does one go about submitting packages to fedora.us?? i just packaged ghex-2.6.0 and i'd like to submit it. thanks... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun May 9 20:21:31 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 13:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: rpm will not let me sign packages In-Reply-To: <20040509195930.B247B73B36@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040509202131.78968.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Mark Fonnemann wrote: >> [root at markf78 home]# rpm --addsign ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm >> ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm: jos wrote: >And? You don't say what the reason is why you think it doesn't >work, this looks ok... sorry: [root at markf78 home]# rpm --addsign ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm: [root at markf78 home]# rpm -qip ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm Name : ghex Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.6.0 Vendor: (none) Release : 0 Build Date: Sun 09 May 2004 03:29:12 PM EDT Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: markf78 Group : Applications/Editors Source RPM: ghex-2.6.0-0.src.rpm Size : 1544697 License: GPL Signature : (none) URL : http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/sources/ghex/2.6/ Summary : A binary editor for GNOME Description : GHex allows the user to load data from any file, view and edit it in either hex or ascii. A must for anyone playing games that use non-ascii format for saving. thanks... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Sun May 9 20:22:56 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 22:22:56 +0200 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <20040509163125.GD28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> <409E4403.7000006@gmx.de> <1084115440.4753.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040509163125.GD28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084134176.4753.74.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hello Alan, > I'd assume a mysql list is the place to ask ? Box office attitude. Fedora-legal would be a better forum. Or fedora-devel. My main question is if the current state of affairs allows later version of MySQL to be included in Fedora Core (>= 3). How about http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/foss-exception.html . Does that still leaves concerns to be addressed? A brief update by somebody involved would be nice. All I would like to know is if there is any progress regarding this matter, and if not if it has been decided that MySQL will be deprecated or moved out of the distro, or if there has been decided on a fork, or whatever? Is RHEL 4 going to ship with MySQL < 4? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sun May 9 20:23:19 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:23:19 -0400 Subject: how to submit packages to fedora.us? In-Reply-To: <20040509201850.837.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040509201850.837.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084134199.3875.19.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 13:18 -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- ... > > how does one go about submitting packages to fedora.us?? i just packaged > ghex-2.6.0 and i'd like to submit it. thanks... Google "fedora.us submission" and look at the first link. From alan at redhat.com Sun May 9 20:40:02 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:40:02 -0400 Subject: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support In-Reply-To: <000001c435fa$055e9fc0$0200000a@frank> References: <20040509163037.GC28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <000001c435fa$055e9fc0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <20040509204002.GB27537@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 01:15:41PM -0600, raxet wrote: > It doesn't work on a new mobo P4P800 with no other drive but SATA. I'm doing > IOW, I need to somehow create the dd (driver disk) and then do one of those > funky installs that drive everyone absolutely crazy. What happens currently: > FC2 T3 install CD 1 in drive, select graphical install, trys to uncompress > the kernel and voila, NADA. Hangs ? Try acpi=off, you may also need specific BIOS versions on the P4P800 right now its in the "mysteriously non happy" board category. So it shouldnt be SATA related if it just hangs after uncomressing From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun May 9 20:40:20 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:40:20 +0200 Subject: rpm will not let me sign packages In-Reply-To: <20040509195434.97277.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040509195434.97277.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040509224020.2418b0d1.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sun, 9 May 2004 12:54:34 -0700 (PDT), Mark Fonnemann wrote: > is this a bug? > > [root at markf78 home]# rpm --addsign ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm > ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm: > > i'm wondering if perhaps the syntax has changed to sign an rpm post-build but > there's no mention of this in the man page. any help would be greatly > appreciated. thanks... Set up your ~/.rpmmacros file and define %_signature gpg %_gpg_name your_key_name From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sun May 9 20:40:21 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:40:21 -0400 Subject: rpm will not let me sign packages In-Reply-To: <20040509202131.78968.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040509202131.78968.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084135220.3875.25.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 13:21 -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > >> [root at markf78 home]# rpm --addsign ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm > >> ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm: > > jos wrote: > > >And? You don't say what the reason is why you think it doesn't > >work, this looks ok... > > sorry: > > [root at markf78 home]# rpm --addsign ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm > ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm: > [root at markf78 home]# rpm -qip ghex-2.6.0-0.i386.rpm > Name : ghex Relocations: (not relocatable) > Version : 2.6.0 Vendor: (none) > Release : 0 Build Date: Sun 09 May 2004 > 03:29:12 PM EDT > Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: markf78 > Group : Applications/Editors Source RPM: ghex-2.6.0-0.src.rpm > Size : 1544697 License: GPL > Signature : (none) > URL : http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/sources/ghex/2.6/ > Summary : A binary editor for GNOME > Description : > GHex allows the user to load data from any file, view and edit it in > either hex or ascii. A must for anyone playing games that use > non-ascii format for saving. > > thanks... > mark. :-) Yup - not signed. Have you generated the key-pair and set-up correctly? These links may be helpful. http://www.fedora.us/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy http://wings.buffalo.edu/computing/ublinux/HOWTO-rpm.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-February/msg00313.html From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Sun May 9 21:04:15 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:04:15 -0400 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <409E4584.6070306@austin.rr.com> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> <409E4584.6070306@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084136654.29382.6.camel@binkley> > > i could not find these improvements. > > afair in system-config-packages fc2t1 were some new features, > > but it seems the these were removed > > So are the redhat devs still working on this or should we (the users) > take it upon ourselves to start a project on sourceforge? There are people who are red hat developers and people who are not red hat devs who are working on parts to make this happen. I know some red hat developers are very interested in making this work. It's not an overnight project, but it is something I'd love to see be available in at least an early-version by FC3. But time is difficult sometimes - so we'll see. -sv From david at bus.ucf.edu Sun May 9 21:15:11 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:15:11 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/9/2004 7:53 AM, Chris Kloiber wrote: > Nope, I just beat it to death (learned all I know now about it in the > last 2-3 hours) and I successfully used our official packages without > users being listed in /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow by using sasldb > authentication. I followed the instructions here: > > http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/download/imapd/install.html > > (specifically the "Authenticating Users" section) Can you (or anyone who knows) explain this on more detail? The pointer to the page, specifically that section, doesn't really cut it. The way imap.conf comes with FC2T3 is: sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd sasl_mech_list: PLAIN As we all know. Also, the file on /etc/sysconfig/saslauthd contains (among others): MECH=shadow With very little documentation about what was done on FC2T3, I created a password for imap admin user cyrus (listed on /etc/imapd.conf as "admins: cyrus"), --passwd cyrus--, su to it --su cyrus-- and after 'cyradm localhost', authenticating with the previously set password, I was ready to add users. Now those users had to be created on the system as regular users as well, just like cyrus is. And, of course, saslauthd must be running and so cyrus-imap. The above procedures work. Proved. But, as some already noticed, the users created with cyradm must be also present on /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and /etc/groups... in other words, they must be users of the system, even 'shell-less' one's, doesn't matter, they must be real users. So, can you, or anyone, detail as simply as I just did, how to accomplish the userless (using /etc/sasldb or sasldb2) scenario? Cheers, -- David From asantini at movinet.com.uy Sun May 9 21:20:28 2004 From: asantini at movinet.com.uy (aldo santini) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 18:20:28 -0300 Subject: apt Message-ID: <200405091820.28768.asantini@movinet.com.uy> where can i find an apt repository for Fedora Core 2 Test 1? From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun May 9 21:36:41 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 17:36:41 -0400 Subject: apt In-Reply-To: <200405091820.28768.asantini@movinet.com.uy> References: <200405091820.28768.asantini@movinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <604aa7910405091436f746d33@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 9 May 2004 18:20:28 -0300, aldo santini wrote: > > where can i find an apt repository for Fedora Core 2 Test 1? Don't you mean fc2t3? There really isn't much point in running test 1 this late in the test cycle. -jef From david at bus.ucf.edu Sun May 9 21:37:53 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:37:53 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <1084138869.11694.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/9/2004 5:15 PM, David Collantes wrote: > So, can you, or anyone, detail as simply as I just did, how to accomplish the > userless (using /etc/sasldb or sasldb2) scenario? I forgot to add that certain entry are needed on sendmail to deliver to cyrus-imap mailboxes. I found this on Google somewhere (do not recall now), which I entered on my /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and later regenerated my sendmail.cf, which works fine: MAILER(cyrus) define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrus') LOCAL_RULE_0 R$=N $:$#local $: $1 R$=N < @ $=w . > $: $#local $: $1 Rbb + $+ < @ $=w . > $#cyrusbb $: $1 Cheers, -- David From smearp at mac.com Sun May 9 21:50:55 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 14:50:55 -0700 Subject: KDE Terminal Message-ID: Hello All- I do not recall what the default KDE behavior is, but in Gnome, I can right click, and then select "New Terminal" to open up a terminal. I do not see any similar option in KDE. Is this just the way KDE is set up, or has this behavior been intentionally/unintentionally left out? Any information would be greatly appreciated, -Sean GPG public key: From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Sun May 9 21:55:11 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 23:55:11 +0200 Subject: More avc denies Message-ID: <1084139711.4753.111.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi, With the latest updates on a FC2t3 setup with SELinux running in permissive mode I am still seeing avc errors. Kernel-2.6.5-1.358, policy-1.11.3-3. Had to move in the /etc/security/selinux/policies because they were created as .rpmnews. System startup: avc: denied { read } for pid=546 exe=/sbin/lvm.static name=dri dev=hda2 ino=84499 scontext=system_u:system_r:lvm_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:dri_device_t tclass=dir avc: denied { search } for pid=546 exe=/sbin/lvm.static name=dri dev=hda2 ino=84499 scontext=system_u:system_r:lvm_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:dri_device_t tclass=dir Root console login: avc: denied { read } for pid=1559 exe=/bin/login name=.default_contexts dev=hda2 ino=437194 scontext=system_u:system_r:local_login_t tcontext=root:object_r:staff_home_dir_t tclass=file avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1559 exe=/bin/login path=/root/.default_contexts dev=hda2 ino=437194 scontext=system_u:system_r:local_login_t tcontext=root:object_r:staff_home_dir_t tclass=file ntpdate : avc: denied { getattr } for pid=1759 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate path=/dev/tty1 dev=hda2 ino=71082 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:sysadm_tty_device_t tclass=chr_file avc: denied { ioctl } for pid=1759 exe=/usr/sbin/ntpdate path=/dev/tty1 dev=hda2 ino=71082 scontext=root:system_r:ntpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:sysadm_tty_device_t tclass=chr_file Daily cron (webalizer?): avc: denied { read } for pid=1818 exe=/bin/cat name=access_log dev=hda2 ino=390310 scontext=system_u:system_r:system_crond_t tcontext=root:object_r:httpd_log_t tclass=file and 20 secs later: avc: denied { execute_no_trans } for pid=1960 exe=/usr/sbin/prelink path=/lib/ld-2.3.3.so dev=hda2 ino=32386 scontext=system_u:system_r:prelink_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:ld_so_t tclass=file ssh login and su - : avc: denied { read } for pid=3489 exe=/bin/su name=.default_contexts dev=hda2 ino=437194 scontext=user_u:user_r:user_su_t tcontext=root:object_r:staff_home_dir_t tclass=file avc: denied { getattr } for pid=3489 exe=/bin/su path=/root/.default_contexts dev=hda2 ino=437194 scontext=user_u:user_r:user_su_t tcontext=root:object_r:staff_home_dir_t tclass=file avc: denied { add_name } for pid=3489 exe=/bin/su name=.xauthrQsUjb scontext=user_u:user_r:user_su_t tcontext=root:object_r:staff_home_dir_t tclass=dir avc: denied { create } for pid=3489 exe=/bin/su name=.xauthrQsUjb scontext=user_u:user_r:user_su_t tcontext=user_u:object_r:staff_home_dir_t tclass=file avc: denied { setattr } for pid=3489 exe=/bin/su name=.xauthrQsUjb dev=hda2 ino=437207 scontext=user_u:user_r:user_su_t tcontext=user_u:object_r:staff_home_dir_t tclass=file And when setenforce 1 I get tons of prelink execute_no_trans errors for prelink on /lib/ld-2.3.3.so . Maybe some of these are expected behaviour, but then a few aren't :) . Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From david at bus.ucf.edu Sun May 9 21:55:36 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:55:36 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <20040507110116.A13389@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1083941067.1880.20.camel@d1ntpm41> <1083941876.7165.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507110116.A13389@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1084139932.12464.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/7/2004 1:01 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > Cyrus has a different set of trade-offs. If you have hundreds or > thousands mail accounts, you need some things like quota, you have a > manpower to maintain all of that, and you can set up a "sealed > server" then surely cyrus is your choice. OTOH there are also > frequent situations when you need an imap server for rather small > number of users, with simple needs and setup, and cyrus there is > heavily "overqualified". If the Fedora team manages to make the Cyrus Imap as easy "drop-in" as sendmail has been (for most setups it just works), then it would be no problem on using Cyrus for big or small situations. After all, a Porshe can tow a boat. Cheers, -- David From mark at harddata.com Sun May 9 22:05:18 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:05:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: New Kernel update In-Reply-To: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> References: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> Message-ID: <61226.68.151.39.198.1084140318.squirrel@www.harddata.com> > Hi all, > I just updated via yum and received these packages, > [install: kernel 2.6.5-1.358.i686] > [install: kernel-source 2.6.5-1.358.i386] > [update: unixODBC 2.2.8-5.i386] > > I hadn't paid attention before I guess, But shouldn't > the source be kernel-source 2.6.5-1.358.i686? No. The is only one kernel source for x86 and it's always called i386. From paul.verstraete at mech.kuleuven.ac.be Sun May 9 22:29:15 2004 From: paul.verstraete at mech.kuleuven.ac.be (paul verstraete) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 00:29:15 +0200 Subject: FC2 test3 x86_64 ATI 9600 dual head support In-Reply-To: <20040509215545.D59A0739BC@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040509215545.D59A0739BC@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409EB0BB.5080606@mech.kuleuven.ac.be> > > >Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:18:12 +0200 >From: Eugen Leitl >Subject: FC2 test3 x86_64 ATI 9600 dual head support >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <20040509201812.GN25728 at leitl.org> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Howdy, > >just installed FC test 3 x86_64 on an Athlon 64 Asus K8V SE Deluxe (using >onboard SATA host adaptor (no RAID), and a WD 36 GByte SATA drive). No >problems so far, but for lack of dual-head support with ATI Radeon 9600. > >I see from the archives other people did succeed. Can anyone send me a >working xorg.conf for a dual-head setup? Thanks! > > > This one works for a ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, AOC Spectrum (1600x1200 @ 75hz) and Philips 107S (1152x864 @ 75hz) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xorg.conf URL: From beu00339 at ccsun50.iitd.ac.in Sun May 9 22:32:55 2004 From: beu00339 at ccsun50.iitd.ac.in (alok garg) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 04:02:55 +0530 Subject: KDE Terminal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084141974.12705.3.camel@aragon> hi, In KDE right click in any file manger window and go to actions submenu ....there is an option for opening terminal there... alok On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 03:20, Sean Earp wrote: > Hello All- > > I do not recall what the default KDE behavior is, but in Gnome, I can > right click, and then select "New Terminal" to open up a terminal. I > do not see any similar option in KDE. Is this just the way KDE is set > up, or has this behavior been intentionally/unintentionally left out? > Any information would be greatly appreciated, > > -Sean > > > GPG public key: > From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sun May 9 22:40:55 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 18:40:55 -0400 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end Message-ID: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have three words for Red Hat: "Embrace and Extend" But seriously, the company that gets the Package Manager right will get the customers. Mandrake has tried but hasn't quite made it, although they've done a decent job. Their manager is just split in to too many different drakes now. They need to go back, simplify and bring them all together, as posters here are suggesting needs to be done with a Yum front-end that accomplishes all tasks. YAST works but Fedora appears to have many other strengths in hardware and network recognition, easy kernel upgrades (MDK has missed the boat on that one) and that sweet little up2date panel icon. So, I prefer Fedora. It's also more open than SuSE, which is important. While it may take a bit of humility for Red Hat to consider the idea of adopting YAST, there's nothing wrong with incorporating YAST in to Red Hat products, or **at least experimenting with the idea by incorporating it in to Fedora Core 3**. Now that YAST is GPL, a lot of start-up distros will quickly embrace it and I think it could easily and quickly become a standard. There's are nothing wrong with open source standards. Beats forking. And vendors would love it. The community needs to get behind vanilla kernels (as Fedora is doing), standard RPM's and stop forcing developers to modify their software for different distros. Silly and short-sighted. Make it easy for software manufacturers to build one program with one installation method that works on all flavours of Linux and Billy Gates problems continue to mount. YAST may be that solution. If nothing else, Fedora would shock the bloody hell out of the Linux community and Novell with that little announcment. ;) So, I take it back... don't "embrace and extend." Simply "Embrace." ~Rory Toronto, Canada ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 11:51:10 -0700 From: Sean Earp Subject: Re: Call for Yum Frontend To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed SuSE just (or is in the process of) GPL'ing it's YAST tool (which combines the basic functions of Anaconda, system-config-packages, and up2date/yum) http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top (donning flame suite now...) From vibol at khmer.cc Sun May 9 22:50:08 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 15:50:08 -0700 Subject: (ACPI) Latitude C400 Reboot/Lock in S3 Message-ID: <409EB5A0.7070704@khmer.cc> When I issue an echo -n '3' > /proc/acpi/sleep from inside X, the system immediately reboots when I try to bring it out of suspend (lights come on for power, no lights for hdd, and it reboots). When I do the same thing in single-user mode, the same thing happens, but it does not reboot. The keyboard is unresponsive (no caps/num locks lights). -Vibol From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sun May 9 22:59:11 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 18:59:11 -0400 Subject: Kmail and Signal 11 Message-ID: <1084143550.3927.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Here's the output when I run Kmail from terminal. Does this trigger any ideas for anyone? [rory at localhost rory]$ kmail QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used kbuildsycoca running... Launched ok, pid = 4276 ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1057:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: No such device DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-4272' to 'knotify' KCrash: Application 'knotify' crashing... [rory at localhost rory]$ *** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing) KCrash: Application 'kmail' crashing... Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 4269, errno = 0 From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun May 9 23:09:58 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 19:09:58 -0400 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa79104050916095ffc8536@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 09 May 2004 18:40:55 -0400, Rory Gleeson > But seriously, the company that gets the Package Manager right will get > the customers. Mandrake has tried but hasn't quite made it, although > they've done a decent job. Their manager is just split in to too many > different drakes now. They need to go back, simplify and bring them all > together, as posters here are suggesting needs to be done with a Yum > front-end that accomplishes all tasks. People suggest a lot of things...but it doesn't mean they have a significant perspecifive to understand the full ramifications of their comments. Its not clear to me that the all-in-one package management AND system configuration tool that YAST is the best way forward. There is an argument that seperate configuration tools are a better approach. And I'm sure if you try hard enough you will find several previous discussions about several other system configuration frameworks, like linuxconf or even webmin and why they aren't being used in recent rhl and fedora releases. (YaST) Yet another Setup Tool, is aptly named..its yet another centralized tool, i see no reason to believe it won't have similar issues than linuxconf or other centralized module based setup tools have that have come before. > While it may take a bit of humility for Red Hat to consider the idea of > adopting YAST, there's nothing wrong with incorporating YAST in to Red > Hat products, or **at least experimenting with the idea by incorporating > it in to Fedora Core 3**. Now that YAST is GPL, a lot of start-up > distros will quickly embrace it and I think it could easily and quickly > become a standard. Yawn.. a lot of smaller distros are planning on sticking with XFree86 as well, doesn't mean squat. > There's are nothing wrong with open source standards. Beats forking. > And vendors would love it. The community needs to get behind vanilla > kernels (as Fedora is doing), standard RPM's and stop forcing developers > to modify their software for different distros. Silly and > short-sighted. Make it easy for software manufacturers to build one > program with one installation method that works on all flavours of Linux > and Billy Gates problems continue to mount. YAST may be that solution. Excuse me while I don't hold my breath, YaST does far more than just do package management, why not chearlead for Novell's other package management product Red Carpet, the product thats actually born as open source. Oh I know why, becuase YaST is the cool new buzzword thanks to it being open sourced. Lets see if Novell "standardizes" internally on YaST and kicks Red Carpet to the curb before we start jumping on the one true setup tool bandwagon. -jef"step 1) re-invent the wheel as closed source step 2) use it and claim its better than open source projects being developed in parallel step 3) open source it after its no longer critical to a business plan step 4) encourage everyone else to use your non open source built code as the basis of an open standard step 5) blithely forget that your tools is delibrately named 'Yet Another...' with all the conotation that implies"spaleta From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun May 9 23:16:40 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 01:16:40 +0200 Subject: x86_64: latetest kernel update 356 didn't modify grub.conf In-Reply-To: <200405091252.49943.czar@czarc.net> References: <1084051845.5229.5.camel@littlePiet> <200405091252.49943.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1084144599.5230.0.camel@littlePiet> Am So, den 09.05.2004 schrieb Gene C. um 18:52: > > someone upgrade without that issue (and something may be broken here). > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115253 Thanks for the info. I added my comment. Peter From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun May 9 23:17:53 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 01:17:53 +0200 Subject: RHN Applet freezes In-Reply-To: References: <1084069951.2326.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1084084400.5232.17.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1084144672.5230.2.camel@littlePiet> Am So, den 09.05.2004 schrieb Alexandre Oliva um 20:21: > It runs with low priority (high nice number), so if your machine is > busy with other stuff, the RHN Applet won't get much (or any) CPU, and > will appear to be frozen just like that. Thanks for info. Explains the phenomenon. Peter From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 9 23:22:51 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:22:51 +0800 Subject: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support In-Reply-To: <000001c435fa$055e9fc0$0200000a@frank> References: <000001c435fa$055e9fc0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <1084144971.11622.25.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 03:15, raxet wrote: > It doesn't work on a new mobo P4P800 with no other drive but SATA. I'm doing > a FRESH install over an already partitioned FC2 T3. > Take that. :) > > IOW, I need to somehow create the dd (driver disk) and then do one of those > funky installs that drive everyone absolutely crazy. What happens currently: > FC2 T3 install CD 1 in drive, select graphical install, trys to uncompress > the kernel and voila, NADA. > > RaXeT Are you trying to use ICH5R (raid) with the existing data put on the disks by the older Promise Raid card you mentioned earlier? Raid vendors put proprietary *magic* on the disks that prevent moving the disks to a competitors controller while keeping the data intact, so unless you were using them as individual disks using software raid, you will probably need to wipe the disks and use software raid now. Alan would know for sure, but I don't think the current drivers support the raid functions of ICH5R. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 9 23:27:58 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:27:58 +0800 Subject: RPM multiarch/multilib Q (x864_64 vs sparc64 lands) In-Reply-To: <200405092239.05112.rezso@rdsor.ro> References: <200405092239.05112.rezso@rdsor.ro> Message-ID: <1084145278.11622.30.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 03:39, Balint Cristian wrote: > Hi ! > > I would like to Q and clarify for me how multilib/multiarch work. > > As I experience practicaly, if I have x86_64 glibc instaled on an amd64 for e.g > i take rpm -ivh glibc*i686 and no problem rpm "decide" to not conflict with x86_64 and install smoothly inteligently, > guessing that ppc/ppc64 too works in the same way (dont have the hw to play) > > If I do "yum list | grep glibc-" I will see clearly it is there booth i686 and x86_64. > > I have problems doing this on sparc/sparc64 lands in a FC2T3 enviroment (wich maintained for myself): > > I allready have glibc-2.3.3-25.sparc.rpm installed but I want 64 bit ones too: > ------------------------------------------//////////--------------------------> > [root at sun RPMS]# rpm -ivh sparc64/glibc-2.3.3-25.sparc64.rpm > Preparing... ########################################### [100%] > package glibc-2.3.3-25 is already installed > file /sbin/ldconfig from install of glibc-2.3.3-25 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.3.3-25 > file /sbin/sln from install of glibc-2.3.3-25 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.3.3-25 > file /usr/sbin/glibc_post_upgrade from install of glibc-2.3.3-25 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.3.3-25 > file /usr/sbin/iconvconfig from install of glibc-2.3.3-25 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.3.3-25 > -----------------------------------------/////////--------------------------------------> > > I know is little bit I am maybe offtopic because FC not suport yet sparcs: > > It is clear that not work in case of sparc64/sparc, but again the Q: this multilib is done from sort of rpmrc script or some other macro file > or must see rpm sourcecode whats happening there ? Maybe someone lead me to exact source of problem. > > Any hint/suggestion is welcome ! > > as Obs,i was using rpm-4.3.1-0.1 to be no doubt. What you ask is far beyond my skills, but if you feel you're up to it grab the source and see what it's doing for amd64 and ppc64 and try to adapt it to sparc64. Bonus points for not breaking amd64 and ppc64 in the process. You could also ask the Aurora Linux (sparc) people, as they probably already face these issues. -- Chris Kloiber From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Sun May 9 23:33:35 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 18:33:35 -0500 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084079160.4028.7.camel@binkley> <409E254C.3080200@wowway.com> Message-ID: <409EBFCF.9020001@austin.rr.com> Sean Earp wrote: > SuSE just (or is in the process of) GPL'ing it's YAST tool (which > combines the basic functions of Anaconda, system-config-packages, and > up2date/yum) > > http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top > > (donning flame suite now...) > > -Sean ;) > "And Red Hat is happy with its own management software. "We've been shipping and fine-tuning our tools for configuration and management for some years now," company spokeswoman Leigh Day said." :-X I actually think this is a great idea. Why not use the available resources that are out there? Why reinvent the wheel? Of course we don't need all of YAST, just the program manager part. Seth Vidal wrote: >There are people who are red hat developers and people who are not red >hat devs who are working on parts to make this happen. I know some red >hat developers are very interested in making this work. > >It's not an overnight project, but it is something I'd love to see be >available in at least an early-version by FC3. > > Where is development of this taking place? Is there anyway to contribute? Perhaps discuss the usage of parts of YAST? -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 3 *x86_64* From darren at dzr-web.com Sun May 9 23:29:56 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 00:29:56 +0100 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <604aa79104050916095ffc8536@mail.gmail.com> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104050916095ffc8536@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1084145396.4837.16.camel@excession.dzr> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 00:09, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > People suggest a lot of things...but it doesn't mean they have a > significant perspecifive to understand the full ramifications of their > comments. Its not clear to me that the all-in-one package management > AND system configuration tool that YAST is the best way forward. There > is an argument that seperate configuration tools are a better > approach. I couldn't agree more. > Excuse me while I don't hold my breath, YaST does far more than just > do package management, why not chearlead for Novell's other package > management product Red Carpet, the product thats actually born as open > source. Oh I know why, becuase YaST is the cool new buzzword thanks to > it being open sourced. Lets see if Novell "standardizes" internally on > YaST and kicks Red Carpet to the curb before we start jumping on the > one true setup tool bandwagon. I've been wondering how long it would take for someone to mention Red Carpet. Red Carpet is a seriously good application. It pretty much encompasses the functionality of yum, apt, up2date and redhat-config-packages, and does some extra stuff too (for example, you can ask it to install an RPM you have downloaded from somewhere or built yourself and it will try and install all the dependencies for you). I've been using Red Carpet ever since Ximian released it, and version 2 and upwards are very impressive. I always install it on any machine I use and use it in preference to the distro tools. There is no way Novell will ever kick Red Carpet to the curb: it's the primary reason they bought Ximian in the first place (and that's been confirmed more than once by the Ximian guys: Ximian was bought for Red Carpet primarily, and Evolution and Ximian Desktop were just icing on the cake). If you watched any of the videos from Novell Brain Share you'd have seen Red Carpet in action all over the place. Given that Red Carpet is completely open source is there some reason it doesn't seem to have even been considered so far? Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From paul at parasoft.com Sun May 9 23:37:07 2004 From: paul at parasoft.com (Paul Pluzhnikov) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:37:07 -0700 Subject: Core2 T2 and T3 strange crashes in MS Virtual PC Message-ID: <409EC0A3.2030505@parasoft.com> Greetings, For reasons beyond my control, I must run FC inside Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 (which is a PC emulator, similar to VMWare Workstation). This works fine for Core1, but in Core2 T2 and T3 I observe random crashes in user-land executables (installation goes fine, and the kernel doesn't appear to have any problems). It appears that any executable may crash the first couple of times it is run, e.g. (system booted into single-user mode): sh-2.05b# ps Segmentation fault sh-2.05b# ps Error, do this: mount -t proc none /proc sh-2.05b# date Segmentation fault sh-2.05b# date Sun May 9 09:18:22 PDT 2004 The executables will not crash when run under strace or gdb; they do not leave a core (even with 'ulimit -c unlimited'), and I see no kernel messages in any of the logs. I though that perhaps the 2.6 kernel does something that makes VPC unhappy, so I compiled 2.6.5 inside FC1 (inside VPC), and booted that kernel (while using the rest of executables from FC1). This did not show any problems. Searching google for "Fedora Virtual PC" revealed that other people run FC1, but I didn't find anything on FC2 under VPC. Any clues on how to further diagnose this? Thanks, From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 9 23:43:06 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:43:06 +0800 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <1084146186.11622.40.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 05:15, David Collantes wrote: > On 5/9/2004 7:53 AM, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > > Nope, I just beat it to death (learned all I know now about it in the > > last 2-3 hours) and I successfully used our official packages without > > users being listed in /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow by using sasldb > > authentication. I followed the instructions here: > > > > http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/download/imapd/install.html > > > > (specifically the "Authenticating Users" section) > > Can you (or anyone who knows) explain this on more detail? The pointer to the > page, specifically that section, doesn't really cut it. The way imap.conf > comes with FC2T3 is: > > sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd > sasl_mech_list: PLAIN > > As we all know. Also, the file on /etc/sysconfig/saslauthd contains (among > others): > > MECH=shadow > > With very little documentation about what was done on FC2T3, I created a > password for imap admin user cyrus (listed on /etc/imapd.conf as "admins: > cyrus"), --passwd cyrus--, su to it --su cyrus-- and after 'cyradm localhost', > authenticating with the previously set password, I was ready to add users. Now > those users had to be created on the system as regular users as well, just > like cyrus is. And, of course, saslauthd must be running and so cyrus-imap. > > The above procedures work. Proved. But, as some already noticed, the users > created with cyradm must be also present on /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and > /etc/groups... in other words, they must be users of the system, even > 'shell-less' one's, doesn't matter, they must be real users. > > So, can you, or anyone, detail as simply as I just did, how to accomplish the > userless (using /etc/sasldb or sasldb2) scenario? /etc/imapd.conf: sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop sasl_mech_list: PLAIN Turn off saslauthd if nothing else is using it. run, and create a password: # touch /etc/sasldb2 # chown cyrus /etc/sasldb2 # saslpasswd2 cyrus # service cyrus-imapd restart # cyradm --user cyrus localhost Then log in with the password you created with saslpasswd2. I was able to create mailboxes for users with no entries in /etc/passwd on the system, and access them from evolution. I was *NOT* able to delete those accounts using 'dm username' I keep getting 'permission denied'. That's something I'm probably not doing right. -- Chris Kloiber From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 9 23:44:28 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 01:44:28 +0200 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend In-Reply-To: <409E4584.6070306@austin.rr.com> References: <409D144A.1030305@austin.rr.com> <1084038955.2435.1.camel@binkley> <409E4584.6070306@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084141656.953.54.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 09/05/2004 ? 16:51, Jason Knight a ?crit : > Now that I am subscribed to the Fedora Config list I see that there > isn't much traffic so can you summarize for us what has and has not been > done? Also what we can do to help you? > http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/redhat-config-packages.html New spec : http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/specs/redhat-config-packages/ From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sun May 9 23:46:53 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 01:46:53 +0200 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084146413.5230.10.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Rory Gleeson um 00:40: > While it may take a bit of humility for Red Hat to consider the idea of > adopting YAST, there's nothing wrong with incorporating YAST in to Red > Hat products, ... I hope, nobody at Red Hat will take that into consideration! The system-config-... packages follow the traditional Unix principal: kiss - keep it small and simple (OK - relative to current monster packages). The result are usually packages, easier to maintain and relativ bug free (or reduced). The other side of the coin is SuSEconfig, which rewrites the config files according to the specification and choices you made in YAST and following its own rules regarding user/adminstrator friendlyness Peter From tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com Sun May 9 23:47:20 2004 From: tuxpenguin at austin.rr.com (Jason Knight) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 18:47:20 -0500 Subject: Call for Yum Frontend (also YAST and Yum Frontend) In-Reply-To: <1084145396.4837.16.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104050916095ffc8536@mail.gmail.com> <1084145396.4837.16.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <409EC308.3060905@austin.rr.com> D. D. Brierton wrote: >...Red Carpet is a seriously good application. It pretty much >encompasses the functionality of yum, apt, up2date and >redhat-config-packages, and does some extra stuff too (for example, you >can ask it to install an RPM you have downloaded from somewhere or built >yourself and it will try and install all the dependencies for you). >.... Given that Red Carpet is completely open source is there some reason it >doesn't seem to have even been considered so far? > >Best, Darren > > Or we could use Red Carpet as shown above, the point is, we need to have SOME kind of package management, it doesn't really matter whether we reinvent the wheel or use code verbatim from YAST or RedCarpet or Gimp for that matter. -- Jason Knight Fedora Core 2 Test 3 *x86_64* From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 9 23:50:58 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:50:58 +0800 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084139932.12464.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1083941067.1880.20.camel@d1ntpm41> <1083941876.7165.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507110116.A13389@mail.harddata.com> <1084139932.12464.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <1084146658.11622.48.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 05:55, David Collantes wrote: > On 5/7/2004 1:01 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > Cyrus has a different set of trade-offs. If you have hundreds or > > thousands mail accounts, you need some things like quota, you have a > > manpower to maintain all of that, and you can set up a "sealed > > server" then surely cyrus is your choice. OTOH there are also > > frequent situations when you need an imap server for rather small > > number of users, with simple needs and setup, and cyrus there is > > heavily "overqualified". > > If the Fedora team manages to make the Cyrus Imap as easy "drop-in" as > sendmail has been (for most setups it just works), then it would be no problem > on using Cyrus for big or small situations. After all, a Porshe can tow a boat. Just don't try to stop, or turn... :( And yes, I used to drive a semi-tractor professionally, and did once jackknife. I was only going 15mph at the time, but still: "Not fun". -- Chris Kloiber From nbc at aikisoft.com Sun May 9 23:56:38 2004 From: nbc at aikisoft.com (Neil B. Cohen) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 19:56:38 -0400 Subject: Looking for opinions... Message-ID: <1084146998.30374.5.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> I've been running Fedora for a while now, and I've never been able to get my Epson Stylus C60 printer to work - it was recognized and configured but I never got any output. I've not been able to figure out why CUPS won't print to that device - I'm still thinking it is my fault and not the printer but I've never had time to really track it down. Now I'm in the market for a printer/scanner/copier and I've been looking at some machines from HP. Has anyone had any experiences - good or bad - with the HP2175? Does it work with the latest Fedora software? Any other recommendations? Price is an issue here but I want something that works.... Does anyone have any comments on whether a combination printer/scanner/copier is a good or bad idea in the first place? Should I stick with separate devices? One way or another, I need to get a working printer on my machine - if I get a standalone scanner then I'll just have to make the Epson work... Any information or pointers would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, nbc AME: Neil B. Cohen (Aiki Software) PHONE: 703-444-4610 DOMAIN: nbc at aikisoft.com ************************************************************* * Murphy's Philosophy: Smile - tomorrow will be worse... * * * * O'Tooles Commentary: Murphy was an optimist! * ************************************************************* From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sun May 9 23:58:55 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:58:55 -0700 Subject: FC2-dev - ESD - DOES ANY ONE HAVE AN ANSWER??? Message-ID: <20040509235855.GA10954@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 03:01:08PM -0400, Brian R Smith wrote: > > I have tried this message _three_ times and still have not received a reply. > > In FC2, will ESD only support ALSA or will it support ALSA and OSS? I > insist on using the OSS drivers because the ALSA snd-intel8x0 driver > _sucks_ on my laptop (ACPI conflicts, poor sound quality, etc). > > Someone please let me know whats up with ESD. > Recently looking at the configuration to build a recent kernel the OSS sound system was marked as deprecated in favor of ALSA. Both should be there at this time. Linux Kernel v2.6.5-1.356custom Configuration ... ? ? Open Sound System (DEPRECATED) So both are there but the future direction is indicated. Since you can use either at this time, go ahead use OSS. I would recommend productive bug reports to clear up things like ACPI conflicts. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From cn at centurytel.net Mon May 10 00:07:02 2004 From: cn at centurytel.net (Chris Negus) Date: 09 May 2004 17:07:02 -0700 Subject: Driver disk In-Reply-To: <1083596735.4750.22.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1083596735.4750.22.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084147622.13540.16280.camel@duck.digidread.com> On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 08:05, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Is the option to use a driver disk only available for people to use > their home grown driver disks, or is the absence of a driver disk a > mistake? I have the same question. Is there a plan for an official fedora driver disk or is there at least a reference somewhere on how to build your own driver disk that will work with FC2? -- Chris Negus From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 10 00:19:17 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 02:19:17 +0200 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084148176.1021.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 10/05/2004 ? 00:40, Rory Gleeson a ?crit : > I have three words for Red Hat: > > "Embrace and Extend" > > But seriously, the company that gets the Package Manager right will get > the customers. Mandrake has tried but hasn't quite made it, although > they've done a decent job. Their manager is just split in to too many > different drakes now. They need to go back, simplify and bring them all > together, as posters here are suggesting needs to be done with a Yum > front-end that accomplishes all tasks. > > YAST works but Fedora appears to have many other strengths in hardware > and network recognition, easy kernel upgrades (MDK has missed the boat > on that one) and that sweet little up2date panel icon. So, I prefer > Fedora. It's also more open than SuSE, which is important. > > While it may take a bit of humility for Red Hat to consider the idea of > adopting YAST, there's nothing wrong with incorporating YAST in to Red > Hat products, or **at least experimenting with the idea by incorporating > it in to Fedora Core 3**. Now that YAST is GPL, Not yet. from "rpm2cpio ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.1/suse/src/yast2-packagemanager-2.9.37-0.src.rpm " COPYING : 2. Processing All programmes derived from YaST 2 and all works derived from it in full or parts thereof are to be filled on the opening screen with the clear information "Modified Version". ... [...] > a lot of start-up > distros will quickly embrace it and I think it could easily and quickly > become a standard. > > There's are nothing wrong with open source standards. Beats forking. > > And vendors would love it. The community needs to get behind vanilla > kernels (as Fedora is doing), standard RPM's and stop forcing developers > to modify their software for different distros. Silly and > short-sighted. Make it easy for software manufacturers to build one > program with one installation method that works on all flavours of Linux > and Billy Gates problems continue to mount. YAST may be that solution. > > If nothing else, Fedora would shock the bloody hell out of the Linux > community and Novell with that little announcment. ;) > > So, I take it back... don't "embrace and extend." > > Simply "Embrace." > > ~Rory > Toronto, Canada > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 11:51:10 -0700 > From: Sean Earp > Subject: Re: Call for Yum Frontend > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > SuSE just (or is in the process of) GPL'ing it's YAST tool (which > combines the basic functions of Anaconda, system-config-packages, and > up2date/yum) > > http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top > > (donning flame suite now...) > From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 10 00:24:52 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 02:24:52 +0200 Subject: FC2-dev - ESD - DOES ANY ONE HAVE AN ANSWER??? In-Reply-To: <20040509235855.GA10954@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <20040509235855.GA10954@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <1084148682.1021.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 10/05/2004 ? 01:58, Tom Mitchell a ?crit : > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 03:01:08PM -0400, Brian R Smith wrote: > > > > I have tried this message _three_ times and still have not received a reply. > > > > In FC2, will ESD only support ALSA or will it support ALSA and OSS? I > > insist on using the OSS drivers because the ALSA snd-intel8x0 driver > > _sucks_ on my laptop (ACPI conflicts, poor sound quality, etc). > > > > Someone please let me know whats up with ESD. > > > Recently looking at the configuration > to build a recent kernel the OSS sound system was > marked as deprecated in favor of ALSA. > > Both should be there at this time. > Linux Kernel v2.6.5-1.356custom Configuration > ... > ? ? Open Sound System (DEPRECATED) > > So both are there but the future direction is indicated. > Not compiled in Fedora : $ grep CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME /boot/config-2.6.5-1.358 # CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME is not set > Since you can use either at this time, go ahead use OSS. I would > recommend productive bug reports to clear up things like ACPI > conflicts. > > > -- > T o m M i t c h e l l > /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. > From chak at cse.unsw.edu.au Mon May 10 00:39:20 2004 From: chak at cse.unsw.edu.au (Manuel M T Chakravarty) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:39:20 +1000 Subject: Suspend to memory: display problem after resume w/ i855 In-Reply-To: <409E2EEB.4090609@redhat.com> References: <1084107714.2543.12.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> <409E2EEB.4090609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084149560.2546.18.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 23:15, Warren Togami wrote: > What kernel version? Please test with kernel-2.6.5-1.358+. Urgh - sorry for not mentioning the kernel version. I originally tested with kernel-2.6.5-1.356. I just tried kernel-2.6.5-1.358. The behaviour is exactly the same. Looks like the graphics adapter is not properly re-initialised during resuming. Does this work for others with a i8xx chipset or is it maybe just a problem with my video BIOS? I append what X has to say about my BIOS during initialisation. Could the last message about "VBE Restore workaround: enabled." be relevant - although this probably only relates to virtual console switching. The machine is a Fujitsu S6130. Manuel -=- (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a (II) I810(0): initializing int10 (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 8000 kB (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Controller (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0 (II) I810(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 855GME (--) I810(0): Chipset: "852GM/855GM" (--) I810(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xD8000000 (--) I810(0): IO registers at addr 0xD0000000 (II) I810(0): detected 8060 kB stolen memory. (II) I810(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 954364 kB available (II) I810(0): Will attempt to tell the BIOS that there is 12288 kB VideoRAM (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f11 not supported. (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a (II) I810(0): initializing int10 (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 12288 kB (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Controller (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0 (II) I810(0): Tweak BIOS image to 12288 kB VideoRAM (--) I810(0): Pre-allocated VideoRAM: 8060 kByte (==) I810(0): VideoRAM: 32768 kByte (==) I810(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe (**) I810(0): page flipping disabled (--) I810(0): Maximum frambuffer space: 32616 kByte (==) I810(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) I810(0): 2 display pipes available. (==) I810(0): Display Info: enabled. (II) I810(0): Broken BIOSes cause the system to hang here. If you encounter this problem please add Option "DisplayInfo" "FALSE" to the Device section of your XF86Config file. (II) I810(0): Display Info: CRT: attached: FALSE, present: TRUE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Display Info: TV: attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Display Info: DFP (digital flat panel): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Display Info: LFP (local flat panel): attached: TRUE, present: TRUE, size: (1024,768) (II) I810(0): Display Info: TV2 (second TV): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Display Info: DFP2 (second digital flat panel): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Size of device LFP (local flat panel) is 1024 x 768 (II) I810(0): No active displays on Pipe A. (II) I810(0): Currently active displays on Pipe B: (II) I810(0): LFP (local flat panel) (II) I810(0): Lowest common panel size for pipe B is 1024 x 768 (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC supported (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC Level none (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 0 sec. (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC read failed (--) I810(0): A non-CRT device is attached to pipe B. No refresh rate overrides will be attempted. (II) I810(0): Will use BIOS call 0x5f05 to set refresh rates for CRTs. (II) I810(0): Will use BIOS call 0x5f64 to enable displays. (--) I810(0): Maximum space available for video modes: 12288 kByte [[Deleted info about video modes]] (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 28.00-33.00 kHz (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using default vrefresh range of 43.00-72.00 Hz (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1024x768" (**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "800x600" (**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "640x480" (==) I810(0): DPI set to (75, 75) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (==) I810(0): VBE Restore workaround: enabled. From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Mon May 10 00:47:49 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 02:47:49 +0200 Subject: Looking for opinions... In-Reply-To: <1084146998.30374.5.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> References: <1084146998.30374.5.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> Message-ID: <1084149877.5230.21.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Neil B. Cohen um 01:56: > Now I'm in the market for a printer/scanner/copier and I've been looking > at some machines from HP. If you are looking for a combi, HP is your only choice. As to my knowledge none of the other products (Canon, Lexmark,...) are supported by Linux. I have an older G85 here and it works just fine. Configuration is a little bit tricky (unless you are using Mandrake which does a superb configuration totally automatically - great!) The downsides are the cost for the ink cardridges (at least for my older model - check it carefully) and the quality of the scanner. It is ok for simple document handling. If you have to print a lot of material, separate devices may save you a lot of money. If you need colour printouts a Canon printer may be yours (least price per page). But it needs special, non OSS drivers. Peter From wtogami at redhat.com Mon May 10 00:49:56 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 14:49:56 -1000 Subject: Suspend to memory: display problem after resume w/ i855 In-Reply-To: <1084149560.2546.18.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> References: <1084107714.2543.12.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> <409E2EEB.4090609@redhat.com> <1084149560.2546.18.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <409ED1B4.8020903@redhat.com> Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 23:15, Warren Togami wrote: > >>What kernel version? Please test with kernel-2.6.5-1.358+. > > > Urgh - sorry for not mentioning the kernel version. I originally tested > with kernel-2.6.5-1.356. I just tried kernel-2.6.5-1.358. The > behaviour is exactly the same. > > Looks like the graphics adapter is not properly re-initialised during > resuming. Does this work for others with a i8xx chipset or is it maybe > just a problem with my video BIOS? I append what X has to say about my > BIOS during initialisation. Could the last message about "VBE Restore > workaround: enabled." be relevant - although this probably only relates > to virtual console switching. The machine is a Fujitsu S6130. > Try commenting out this line from you /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Load "dri" Does behavior change at all? Warren From linux at bytebot.net Mon May 10 00:56:22 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:56:22 +1000 Subject: Epiphany Version In-Reply-To: <35579.192.26.212.72.1083692262.squirrel@webmail.personainternet.com> References: <35579.192.26.212.72.1083692262.squirrel@webmail.personainternet.com> Message-ID: <1084150581.14139.325.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 03:37, Paul Vandenberg wrote: > Hi, > > The latest test release of FC2 seems to have Epiphany 1.1.12. This is > a devlopment snapshot. The stable versions 1.2.x have been out for a > while. Will FC2 final have Epiphany 1.2.x? It's at 1.2.4-1 now, so FC2 will have a nice new Epiphany -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ From linux at bytebot.net Mon May 10 01:16:29 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:16:29 +1000 Subject: What about CD 4? In-Reply-To: <1083954169.5232.3.camel@littlePiet> References: <1083954169.5232.3.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1084151789.14139.328.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 04:22, Peter Boy wrote: > At the beginning I'm asked to confirm that I have CD 1-3 ready, CD 4 > never got mentioned. Shouldn't this initial message include CD 4 or are > the required CD dynamically calculated? There's more than that on CD4 - assuming you did a "linux xfs" install, you need xfsprogs, which is also on CD4. So while an average Personal Desktop install will only require CD1+2 (iirc), a workstation will also require CD3. These are for english lang packs, that is -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ From tibbs at math.uh.edu Mon May 10 01:14:41 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 09 May 2004 20:14:41 -0500 Subject: New Kernel update In-Reply-To: <20040509215853.07086890.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> <20040509163416.GE28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040509215853.07086890.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "MS" == Michael Schwendt writes: MS> Buildarch of the kernel src.rpm is ix86 and then the kernel-source MS> package cannot be noarch. Oh, kernel-source is generated from the kernel src.rpm and since RPM has the limitation that subsidiary packages cannot have a buildarch different from the main package, kernel-source can't be noarch. - J< From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Mon May 10 01:14:48 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New Kernel update In-Reply-To: References: <1084119816.3671.3.camel@shovelhead.tkl> <20040509163416.GE28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <65375.65.40.71.237.1084151688.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Jason L Tibbitts III said: >>>>>> "AC" == Alan Cox writes: > > AC> You only need one set of kernel source - and the source installs > AC> on all x86 platforms. > > Actually, why isn't kernel-source noarch? There shouldn't be any > compiled binaries in it. IIRC from the kernel 2.4 days, kernel-source was shipped in a state ready to build additional modules. The kernel src.rpm is the one with the source and patches. -- William Hooper From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Mon May 10 01:28:38 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 03:28:38 +0200 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084138869.11694.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084138869.11694.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <1084152517.9856.136.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am So, den 09.05.2004 schrieb David Collantes um 23:37: > I forgot to add that certain entry are needed on sendmail to deliver to > cyrus-imap mailboxes. I found this on Google somewhere (do not recall now), > which I entered on my /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and later regenerated my > sendmail.cf, which works fine: > > MAILER(cyrus) > define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrus') > LOCAL_RULE_0 > R$=N $:$#local $: $1 > R$=N < @ $=w . > $: $#local $: $1 > Rbb + $+ < @ $=w . > $#cyrusbb $: $1 > > Cheers, > > David But its not correct. Valid settings in sendmail.mc are: define(`confLOCAL_MAILER', `cyrusv2')dnl define(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_ARGS', `FILE /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp')dnl MAILER(cyrusv2)dnl Andrzej Adam Filip has even created newer macros for the cyrus-imapd and sendmail combination: http://anfi.homeunix.net/cyrus/ Setting the socket path is at least necessary with the Simon Matter RPM. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl Sirendipity 03:15:40 up 13 days, 2:04, load average: 0.20, 0.26, 0.24 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I was *NOT* able to > delete those accounts using 'dm username' I keep getting 'permission > denied'. That's something I'm probably not doing right. > Chris Kloiber That is a security feature. This avoids that users accidentally delete their mail account. The cyrus-imapd superuser would have to change the permissions. But even if you delete the mailbox inside cyrus the authentification data will persist in the sasldb(2) database unless root deletes the user. And the cyrus-imapd should be compiled with the autocreate patch, so that for users with login data the INBOX will be created automagically on first login/delivery. 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From chak at cse.unsw.edu.au Mon May 10 02:41:06 2004 From: chak at cse.unsw.edu.au (Manuel M T Chakravarty) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:41:06 +1000 Subject: Suspend to memory: display problem after resume w/ i855 In-Reply-To: <409ED1B4.8020903@redhat.com> References: <1084107714.2543.12.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> <409E2EEB.4090609@redhat.com> <1084149560.2546.18.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> <409ED1B4.8020903@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084156866.2399.22.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 10:49, Warren Togami wrote: > Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 23:15, Warren Togami wrote: > > > >>What kernel version? Please test with kernel-2.6.5-1.358+. > > > > > > Urgh - sorry for not mentioning the kernel version. I originally tested > > with kernel-2.6.5-1.356. I just tried kernel-2.6.5-1.358. The > > behaviour is exactly the same. > > > > Looks like the graphics adapter is not properly re-initialised during > > resuming. Does this work for others with a i8xx chipset or is it maybe > > just a problem with my video BIOS? I append what X has to say about my > > BIOS during initialisation. Could the last message about "VBE Restore > > workaround: enabled." be relevant - although this probably only relates > > to virtual console switching. The machine is a Fujitsu S6130. > > > > Try commenting out this line from you /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > > Load "dri" > > Does behavior change at all? To exclude as many components as possible, I tested this in single-user mode (ie, init S) - as I mentioned in my original message. Hence, X was not running at all. The only component of the DRI infrastructure that I can't easily disable is AGP, as AGP support is compiled into current FC kernels, instead of being modules. (I can recompile the kernel without AGP if you think it would be worthwhile to test that.) For completeness sake, I did two more tests: * Runlevel 3 *without* X: same behaviour as in single-user mode; ie, the screen is blank, but I can issue shell commands and CTRL-ALT-Delete works. However, there is no beep when I press CTRL-G. * Runlevel 3 with X started, but DRI disabled: The screen remains blank, as before, but I don't seem to be able to issue shell commands and CTRL-ALT-Backspace (to kill X) doesn't seem to work. Manuel From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon May 10 02:45:53 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 22:45:53 -0400 Subject: Sandisk reader problems... Same symptom as firewire? Message-ID: <409EECE1.4060204@insight.rr.com> In reference to the previous message regarding lockup at checking hardware and enabling swap errors. I have the same problem with the sandisk reader that went bad. The reader failed at the same time I was trying to hotplug the scanner from earlier postings. With a (CF) card in the reader, it will lockup at checking hardware. If you disable kudzu, you can get the computer to boot into a normal state, even with the card reader messed up. I'm not sure if this lockup state is similar to firewire or not. This computer does not have firewire ports. Anyway, if no CF card is in the reader port, I am able to get the computer to boot with kudzu enabled. The green light for the CF card flashes off and on continuously. Once booted, dmesg gives me this excerpt. I added the "options scsi_mod max_luns=8" to modprobe.conf. This did not solve the problem. I guess the card reader really failed. Checking with FC1 and XP neither were able to do any better. FC1 would lockup with a CF card as FC2 does. XP recognized a usb mass storage device, but did not go any further. Jim sdb : READ CAPACITY failed. sdb : status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08 Current sd: sense key Not Ready Additional sense: Logical unit is in process of becoming ready sdb: assuming Write Enabled sdb: assuming drive cache: write through Device not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. sdb: Spinning up disk................................................................................................not responding... sdb : READ CAPACITY failed. sdb : status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08 Current sd: sense key Not Ready Additional sense: Logical unit is in process of becoming ready sdb: assuming Write Enabled sdb: assuming drive cache: write through sdb:<3>Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0 Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0 Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 262143 Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 262143 Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0 unable to read partition table sdb:<3>Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0 Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 262143 Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0 unable to read partition table Device not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 sdb: Spinning up disk...<7>USB Mass Storage device found at 6 .............................................................................................not responding... sdb : READ CAPACITY failed. sdb : status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08 Current sd: sense key Not Ready Additional sense: Logical unit is in process of becoming ready sdb: assuming Write Enabled sdb: assuming drive cache: write through Device not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. sdb: Spinning up disk................................. ----------------------- Referenced message. > For me, the problem was caused by my "Sandisk ImageMate 6 in 1" flash > card reader. I had to disable kudzu in runlevel 1, then run the below > command to get runlevel 5 or 3 to boot past the checking hardware prompt. options scsi_mod max_luns=8 Try a line like this in your /etc/modprobe.conf. Try different numbers like "6" too. If this seems to solve your problem, then you need to submit information about your device ... uh... somewhere... in order to add to a whitelist of some sort. Reply to this list, CC me and davej at redhat.com if the above suggestion seems to help. Warren From david at bus.ucf.edu Mon May 10 02:52:15 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 22:52:15 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084146186.11622.40.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084146186.11622.40.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <1084157732.22659.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/9/2004 7:43 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote: [...] > I was able to create mailboxes for users with no entries in /etc/passwd > on the system, and access them from evolution. I was *NOT* able to > delete those accounts using 'dm username' I keep getting 'permission > denied'. That's something I'm probably not doing right. I got that part to work. Simple do: cyradm> sam user.usertobedeleted cyrus c cyradm> dm user.usertobedeleted Very nice, Chris. I really love Cyrus IMAP and the ability to create folders deep down, as well as the ACL, etc. And it is fast! Love it, really do. Thanks for the tips and... cheers, -- David From david at bus.ucf.edu Mon May 10 02:53:20 2004 From: david at bus.ucf.edu (David Collantes) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 22:53:20 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084152517.9856.136.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084138869.11694.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084152517.9856.136.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <1084157797.22708.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> On 5/9/2004 9:28 PM, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > define(`confLOCAL_MAILER', `cyrusv2')dnl > define(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_ARGS', `FILE /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp')dnl > MAILER(cyrusv2)dnl > > Andrzej Adam Filip has even created newer macros for the cyrus-imapd and > sendmail combination: > > http://anfi.homeunix.net/cyrus/ Thanks for the correction and the excellent resource URL, Alexander. Cheers, -- David From rjm at zenucom.com Mon May 10 03:20:24 2004 From: rjm at zenucom.com (Rick Marshall) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:20:24 +1000 Subject: xorgcfg missing? Message-ID: <409EF4F8.6080001@zenucom.com> or should i use something else? [root at znote root]# yum search xorgcfg Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - Development Tree Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Looking in available packages for a providing package No packages found Looking in installed packages for a providing package No packages found thanks rick -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: rjm.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 146 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Mon May 10 03:23:08 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:23:08 -0500 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405092223.08309.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Sunday 09 May 2004 17:40, Rory Gleeson wrote: > I have three words for Red Hat: > > "Embrace and Extend" > > But seriously, the company that gets the Package Manager right will get > the customers. Mandrake has tried but hasn't quite made it, although > they've done a decent job. Their manager is just split in to too many > different drakes now. They need to go back, simplify and bring them all > together, as posters here are suggesting needs to be done with a Yum > front-end that accomplishes all tasks. > > YAST works but Fedora appears to have many other strengths in hardware > and network recognition, easy kernel upgrades (MDK has missed the boat > on that one) and that sweet little up2date panel icon. So, I prefer > Fedora. It's also more open than SuSE, which is important. > > While it may take a bit of humility for Red Hat to consider the idea of > adopting YAST, there's nothing wrong with incorporating YAST in to Red > Hat products, or **at least experimenting with the idea by incorporating > it in to Fedora Core 3**. Now that YAST is GPL, a lot of start-up > distros will quickly embrace it and I think it could easily and quickly > become a standard. > > There's are nothing wrong with open source standards. Beats forking. > > And vendors would love it. The community needs to get behind vanilla > kernels (as Fedora is doing), standard RPM's and stop forcing developers > to modify their software for different distros. Silly and > short-sighted. Make it easy for software manufacturers to build one > program with one installation method that works on all flavours of Linux > and Billy Gates problems continue to mount. YAST may be that solution. > > If nothing else, Fedora would shock the bloody hell out of the Linux > community and Novell with that little announcment. ;) > My guess is RH is already working on a YAST type system management solution. Currently, RH and Fedora are a "system management" nightmare. SUSE already has a head start on RH with YAST. Actually, Novell has all the pieces for a complete Server to Desktop (with maintanance) solution. Novell's only work left is integration and marketing. Plus you have IBM and HP behind Novell/SUSE. Red Hat suddenly realized that the Desktop cannot be thrown out, it must be a bullet item on the sales document, even on server side sales (I guess Workstation wasn't a desktop?). Even though RH has announced a Corporate Desktop, its still far from a real, seamless, manageable desktop as compared to SUSE. P.S. YUM does not qualify as management. Yum is just a software update similar to "Windows Update" button in Internet Explorer. Byte From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Mon May 10 03:38:02 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 23:38:02 -0400 Subject: xorgcfg missing? In-Reply-To: <409EF4F8.6080001@zenucom.com> References: <409EF4F8.6080001@zenucom.com> Message-ID: <1084160281.3875.30.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 13:20 +1000, Rick Marshall wrote: > or should i use something else? > > [root at znote root]# yum search xorgcfg > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - Development Tree > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Looking in available packages for a providing package > No packages found > Looking in installed packages for a providing package > No packages found How about: $ rpm -qi system-config-display Name : system-config-display Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.0.14 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 1 Build Date: Fri 30 Apr 2004 03:42:43 PM EDT Install Date: Wed 05 May 2004 08:52:26 PM EDT Build Host: loma.build.redhat.com Group : System Environment/Base Source RPM: system-config-display-1.0.14-1.src.rpm Size : 512512 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Mon 03 May 2004 11:51:25 AM EDT, Key ID da84cbd430c9ecf8 Packager : Red Hat, Inc. URL : http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/ Summary : A graphical interface for configuring the X Window System display Description : system-config-display is a graphical application for configuring an X Window System X server display. Still don't understand why Red Hat removes the "standard" X config tools - this goes back to at least RH8.0 which was missing xf86config, and the GUI tool failed to start. Phil From craig at 8010.co.uk Mon May 10 03:39:02 2004 From: craig at 8010.co.uk (Craig Tinson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 04:39:02 +0100 Subject: Sandisk reader problems... Same symptom as firewire? In-Reply-To: <409EECE1.4060204@insight.rr.com> References: <409EECE1.4060204@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <409EF956.80101@8010.co.uk> Jim Cornette wrote: > In reference to the previous message regarding lockup at checking > hardware and enabling swap errors. I have the same problem with the > sandisk reader that went bad. The reader failed at the same time I was > trying to hotplug the scanner from earlier postings. > > With a (CF) card in the reader, it will lockup at checking hardware. > If you disable kudzu, you can get the computer to boot into a normal > state, even with the card reader messed up. > I'm not sure if this lockup state is similar to firewire or not. This > computer does not have firewire ports. > just out of curiosity... have you tried other CF cards? I had a similar problem before and trying a different card showed the reader was fine.. just a screwed up card.. Craig (P.S) sorry if this has already been suggested.. am just catching up on emails while apt has a dicky-fit.. lol From maxer1 at xmission.com Mon May 10 03:50:19 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:50:19 -0600 Subject: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support In-Reply-To: <1084144971.11622.25.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <002501c43641$e9a2c7f0$0200000a@frank> Non raid. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Chris Kloiber Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 5:23 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 03:15, raxet wrote: > It doesn't work on a new mobo P4P800 with no other drive but SATA. I'm doing > a FRESH install over an already partitioned FC2 T3. > Take that. :) > > IOW, I need to somehow create the dd (driver disk) and then do one of those > funky installs that drive everyone absolutely crazy. What happens currently: > FC2 T3 install CD 1 in drive, select graphical install, trys to uncompress > the kernel and voila, NADA. > > RaXeT Are you trying to use ICH5R (raid) with the existing data put on the disks by the older Promise Raid card you mentioned earlier? Raid vendors put proprietary *magic* on the disks that prevent moving the disks to a competitors controller while keeping the data intact, so unless you were using them as individual disks using software raid, you will probably need to wipe the disks and use software raid now. Alan would know for sure, but I don't think the current drivers support the raid functions of ICH5R. -- Chris Kloiber -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 10 04:06:31 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:06:31 +0800 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084152912.9856.144.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084146186.11622.40.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084152912.9856.144.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <1084161991.11622.56.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 09:35, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Chris Kloiber um 01:43: > > > Then log in with the password you created with saslpasswd2. > > I was able to create mailboxes for users with no entries in /etc/passwd > > on the system, and access them from evolution. I was *NOT* able to > > delete those accounts using 'dm username' I keep getting 'permission > > denied'. That's something I'm probably not doing right. > > > Chris Kloiber > > That is a security feature. This avoids that users accidentally delete > their mail account. The cyrus-imapd superuser would have to change the > permissions. But even if you delete the mailbox inside cyrus the > authentification data will persist in the sasldb(2) database unless root > deletes the user. And the cyrus-imapd should be compiled with the > autocreate patch, so that for users with login data the INBOX will be > created automagically on first login/delivery. > > Alexander I was logged in as user 'cyrus'. I created a mailbox 'ckloiber' which worked, and I could set/remove permissions and store mail there. But I discovered that all mail boxes should be created like: galileo.ckloiber.com> cm 'user.ckloiber' Which gives that user an official 'INBOX:' So I was having difficulty running the command: galileo.ckloiber.com> dm 'ckloiber' Which I expect to work when I'm logged in as 'cyrus'. I suspect the difficulty may lie in the fact the mailbox to be deleted does not follow the naming convention. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 10 04:09:50 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:09:50 +0800 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084157797.22708.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084138869.11694.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084152517.9856.136.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084157797.22708.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> Message-ID: <1084162190.11622.59.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 10:53, David Collantes wrote: > On 5/9/2004 9:28 PM, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > > > define(`confLOCAL_MAILER', `cyrusv2')dnl > > define(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_ARGS', `FILE /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp')dnl > > MAILER(cyrusv2)dnl > > > > Andrzej Adam Filip has even created newer macros for the cyrus-imapd and > > sendmail combination: > > > > http://anfi.homeunix.net/cyrus/ > > Thanks for the correction and the excellent resource URL, Alexander. > > Cheers, Things like this beg adding (commented out, perhaps) in the default sendmail.mc. Can you bugzilla please. If there are postfix changes necessary, bug that one too. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 10 04:12:28 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:12:28 +0800 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <200405092223.08309.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405092223.08309.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084162348.11622.63.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 11:23, ByteEnable wrote: > My guess is RH is already working on a YAST type system management solution. > Currently, RH and Fedora are a "system management" nightmare. SUSE already > has a head start on RH with YAST. Actually, Novell has all the pieces for a > complete Server to Desktop (with maintanance) solution. Novell's only work > left is integration and marketing. Plus you have IBM and HP behind > Novell/SUSE. Red Hat suddenly realized that the Desktop cannot be thrown > out, it must be a bullet item on the sales document, even on server side > sales (I guess Workstation wasn't a desktop?). Even though RH has announced > a Corporate Desktop, its still far from a real, seamless, manageable desktop > as compared to SUSE. > > P.S. > > YUM does not qualify as management. Yum is just a software update similar to > "Windows Update" button in Internet Explorer. > > Byte I guess you are entitled to your own opinion, but having survived linuxconf once, I would rather not take a giant leap backward. -- Chris Kloiber From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Mon May 10 04:58:44 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 00:58:44 -0400 Subject: rawhide install - cannot login with SELinux active Message-ID: <20040510045844.GA25838@wolves.durham.nc.us> Fresh install from the rawhide/development build of 2004.05.09 (mirror of hiwaay mirror) leads to a failure to login with a "gnome-settings-daemon unexpectedly quit" error. Bugzilla #122896 -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From pmatilai at welho.com Mon May 10 05:23:41 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:23:41 +0300 (EEST) Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <1084145396.4837.16.camel@excession.dzr> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <604aa79104050916095ffc8536@mail.gmail.com> <1084145396.4837.16.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 2004, D. D. Brierton wrote: > Given that Red Carpet is completely open source is there some reason it > doesn't seem to have even been considered so far? The tools to create Red Carpet repositories weren't open source until last year which *was* a major showstopper for using RC. With the unified repository metadata project there's hope that one day you'll be able to use any old depsolver you wish with any repository (but I've no idea if support for that is actively being developed for RC) - Panu - From pza at pza.net.au Mon May 10 05:46:25 2004 From: pza at pza.net.au (Phil Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:46:25 +1000 Subject: Keyboard errors when logging into gnome Message-ID: <20040510054625.GD28737@harry.pza.net.au> I have a large number of old RH9/FC1/Cygwin PCs which act as X terminals, connecting to a very beefy server which is running FC1. At the moment, it handles everything really well. I've just tested FC2T3, and all the X terms give an XKBD error message when logging into Gnome. After the message pops up 3 times, everything works as usual. I know there was some bug with XKBD configuration in xorg.conf, but that was related to a local running X session. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to all these terminals to avoid this error? Or am I going to update all these terminals to FC2/new cygwin so that they are running xorg-x11? Phil From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Mon May 10 05:52:18 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:52:18 +0300 Subject: Tux Racer Message-ID: <1084168338.2811.5.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Tux racer is exhibiting some strange symptoms. 1) It doesn't alway run. Sometimes it flashes the screen, i.e. it goes into full screen mode, and then it quits. Immediately rerunning the program can then work. Sometimes it takes three retries. 2) At the end of a practice run, it doesn't stop on the screen that says what my score was but jumps to the best score screen. How can I help debug this. It wasn't happening last week on kernel 351, but is happening on kernel 356 but otherwise up to date. From roger at gwch.net Mon May 10 05:58:36 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: cyrus-imap (deleting mailboxes) Message-ID: <52247.62.2.21.164.1084168716.squirrel@www.gwch.net> [snip]I was *NOT* able to delete those accounts using 'dm username' I keep getting 'permission denied'. That's something I'm probably not doing right. [/snip] Deleting in Cyrus isn't that easy, as ususally your admin user needs administrative right for the mailboxes he doesn't possess. Give it to your mailbox-admin (i think must be cyrus) with 'sam user.mailbox cyrus lrswipcda'. Afther that, you can successfully delete the desired mailbox. HTH Roger From privat at trond-danielsen.org Mon May 10 06:23:27 2004 From: privat at trond-danielsen.org (Trond Danielsen) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:23:27 +0200 Subject: Latex (tetex) and utf8 In-Reply-To: <409EDF82.9010307@uqo.ca> References: <409EDF82.9010307@uqo.ca> Message-ID: <409F1FDF.4090902@trond-danielsen.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wojciech Fraczak wrote: | One thing I would like to see in new Fedora is the utf8 support for | latex. I somehow managed to install latex-ucs files by coping them into | /usr/share/texmf/ tree. Do you know a better way? | | W. | | I agree, don't see why everything else on fedora uses utf8, yet the tetex-latex rpm still only supports iso-8859-*. I just copied the files found on this site to my latex/base folder and ran texconfig, but I assume that packing them in an rpm shouldn't cause much trouble. Who's maintaining the tetex-*-rpms? http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/ - -- Trond Danielsen *********************************** _ * http://www.trond-danielsen.org * The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) * Mobile tlf: +47 99 62 52 35 * against HTML e-mail X * GPG ID: 0x02F29FD9 * http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ *********************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAnx/frHrsMALyn9kRAiDpAKCjU+4pDg8AmI9Ca3VXL4G2Y6ZLPgCcC+iq 9WESWJRJBWg8zbuZGfotNOk= =28vC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jurgen at botz.org Mon May 10 06:37:35 2004 From: jurgen at botz.org (Jurgen Botz) Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 23:37:35 -0700 Subject: CD ripping is broken on USB drives In-Reply-To: <409D6A24.6050808@botz.org> References: <409D6A24.6050808@botz.org> Message-ID: <409F232F.9050505@botz.org> Finally got a chance to test a stock linux kernel (latest from bk as of this afternoon) and it works fine. If I can find the time I'll rebuild the kernel src RPM with various patches turned off to see if I can figure out which of them breaks sg with USB. :j From privat at trond-danielsen.org Mon May 10 06:49:38 2004 From: privat at trond-danielsen.org (Trond Danielsen) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:49:38 +0200 Subject: Trouble getting autofs working. Message-ID: <409F2602.4040901@trond-danielsen.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Can't get autofs working on fc2t3. Tried the instructions on this site http://home.gagme.com/greg/linux/usbcamera.php When I restart autofs, everything seems fine, but when I plug in my camera, nothing happens. I have no trouble doing a "normal" mount, but autofs seems to be doing nothing. I'm probably missing something very easy here :-) - -- Trond Danielsen *********************************** _ * http://www.trond-danielsen.org * The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) * Mobile tlf: +47 99 62 52 35 * against HTML e-mail X * GPG ID: 0x02F29FD9 * http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ *********************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAnyYCrHrsMALyn9kRAvrGAJsH4IIkD7sukYeh9hiUaJfjFS9pUgCeKz/6 SlhbeBf53fOETJ/C9VCli7I= =gUUQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From twanger at bluetwanger.de Mon May 10 06:50:27 2004 From: twanger at bluetwanger.de (Markus Bertheau) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:50:27 +0200 Subject: Latex (tetex) and utf8 In-Reply-To: <409F1FDF.4090902@trond-danielsen.org> References: <409EDF82.9010307@uqo.ca> <409F1FDF.4090902@trond-danielsen.org> Message-ID: <1084171827.2546.0.camel@yarrow.bertheau.de> ? ???, 10.05.2004, ? 08:23, Trond Danielsen ?????: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Wojciech Fraczak wrote: > | One thing I would like to see in new Fedora is the utf8 support for > | latex. I somehow managed to install latex-ucs files by coping them into > | /usr/share/texmf/ tree. Do you know a better way? > > I agree, don't see why everything else on fedora uses utf8, yet the > tetex-latex rpm still only supports iso-8859-*. I just copied the files > found on this site to my latex/base folder and ran texconfig, but I > assume that packing them in an rpm shouldn't cause much trouble. Who's > maintaining the tetex-*-rpms? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=109229 -- Markus Bertheau From fedora at warmcat.com Mon May 10 07:05:36 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:05:36 +0100 Subject: Trouble getting autofs working. In-Reply-To: <409F2602.4040901@trond-danielsen.org> References: <409F2602.4040901@trond-danielsen.org> Message-ID: <200405100805.40996.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 May 2004 07:49, Trond Danielsen wrote: Hi Trond - > When I restart autofs, everything seems fine, but when I plug in my > camera, nothing happens. I have no trouble doing a "normal" mount, but > autofs seems to be doing nothing. Try the RPM at the site in my sig ---> - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAnynEjKeDCxMJCTIRAvemAJ0T1MbfW2+kqC7jLoccEHXmKtl4QQCggRc+ OiK1X14YNyeVPC3HuBpHERc= =SoH8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 10 07:17:27 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:17:27 +0200 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <200405092223.08309.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405092223.08309.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <409F2C87.3080505@gmx.de> ByteEnable wrote: >RH and Fedora are a "system management" nightmare. > no, yast2 is a system-management nightmare >Even though RH has announced >a Corporate Desktop, its still far from a real, seamless, manageable desktop >as compared to SUSE. > > explanation please, i personally prefer "rhel ws" compared to suse -- shrek-m From e.mergl at bawue.de Mon May 10 07:39:36 2004 From: e.mergl at bawue.de (Edmund Mergl) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:39:36 +0200 Subject: Tux Racer In-Reply-To: <1084168338.2811.5.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <1084168338.2811.5.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <409F31B8.1090801@bawue.de> same problem here: my notebook (Fujitsu-Siemens S6010 i830 ) and my PC (Radeon 9200) show the same behavior. It also happens with some of the screen-savers, most often with the OpenGL examples. Edmund shmuel siegel wrote: > Tux racer is exhibiting some strange symptoms. > 1) It doesn't alway run. Sometimes it flashes the screen, i.e. it goes > into full screen mode, and then it quits. Immediately rerunning the > program can then work. Sometimes it takes three retries. > 2) At the end of a practice run, it doesn't stop on the screen that says > what my score was but jumps to the best score screen. > > How can I help debug this. It wasn't happening last week on kernel 351, > but is happening on kernel 356 but otherwise up to date. > > From ted at trufflesdad.plus.com Mon May 10 08:11:17 2004 From: ted at trufflesdad.plus.com (Ted) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:11:17 +0100 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> <200405081309.35337.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <200405100911.17980.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> On Saturday 08 May 2004 13:39, you wrote: > I already have this entry (kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro > root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi rhgb nofb). I didn't put it there so I guess > Anaconda did. But my CD drive is still not working. > > Ted wrote: > >On Saturday 08 May 2004 12:59, Leon Stringer wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>I've just upgraded from FC1 to FC2 test3 and my CD-ROM drive no longer > >>works: I can't play audio CDs or mount CD-ROMs. E.g. mount /mnt/cdrom > >>gives me "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device" (as root or > >> user). > >> > >>dmesg lists "hdc: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-332B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive" so > >>presumably /dev/cdrom is linking to the correct location. > > > >In my previous post I mentioned have to put ide-scsi in grub to get cd > > devices running although popular opinion says it is not needed... > Yes but after LABEL you have hdc=ide-scsi....I have to have just ide-scsi..NO hdc=.....Others have to remove this syntax altogether ..It is supposedly not needed with the 2.6 kernel but I need ide-scsi although a couple of my friends do not.....Give it a try and see what happens.... AS a matter of interest in Debian I do not need it and in Debian cdrecord -scanbus gives a different readout than the Fedora one... -- Regards Ted Wager Using Libranet Linux From peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de Mon May 10 08:09:38 2004 From: peter.klein at uni-konstanz.de (Peter Klein) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:09:38 +0200 Subject: ati9600 & wide-screen notebooks 4 Peter Klein (Alessandro Torrisi) In-Reply-To: <20040507153736.B47CA1A147@mail.euronenet.it> References: <20040507153736.B47CA1A147@mail.euronenet.it> Message-ID: <1084176576.4658.0.camel@merkur56> Thanks for the information, I'll try to get your config somehow into my config files. Best regards, Peter Am Fre, den 07.05.2004 schrieb Alessandro Torrisi um 17:06: > I don't know Peter but these lines saved me and solved my problem !!! > If you want I can attach the two files !!! I've got the original one and the > modified xorg.conf. > > Infact when I did't know about these modelines, I saw that my X was really > running even if I saw a blank screen...probably a problem caused by wrong > detected frequencies. > > And I can add more...I've got an ACER AL708 and sometimes I got a similar > problem on the desktop. It's a LCD monitor !!! > > I read your message: > > >Thanks, > >but I've already read all relevant threads on that list and honestly: I > >dont understand why modelines should cause any effect on an LCD?! > >Weren't the modelines for CRT only? I thought they provide physical > >information (number of real pixels, time for the beam to return to the next > >line, etc.), but AFAIK LCDs refreashes all pixels at time?! > > >Best regards, > > Peter > > And if I read this line: > > # 1280x800 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 62.62 kHz; pclk: 107.21 MHz > Modeline "1280x800" 107.21 1280 1360 1496 1712 800 801 804 835 > > I see informations about: > - Maximum resolution > - Maximum frequence > - Horizontal Frequence > > ... I don't understand the problem you write about...because every monitor > has its own capabilities and LCD have its own FREQUENCY !!! Every pixel must > refresh !!! See this technical card (it is right...excuse me for my poor > english) about a LCD 17: > > ============================================================================ > > Tipo di monitor LCD (cristalli liquidi) > Dimensioni dello schermo (LCD) 17 POLLICI > Tipo di tubo o LCD TFT > Pixel Pitch 0.264 MM > Angolo di visibilit? orizzontale 150 GRADI > Angolo di visibiit? verticale 120 GRADI > Risoluzione massima (e frequenza) 1280 x 1024 <============== RESOLUTION > Frequenza orizzontale 30 ? 81 KHZ <========================= H FREQUENCY > Frequenza verticale 56 ? 75 HZ <========================= V FREQUENCY > Luminosit? dello schermo 270 CD/MQ > Contrasto 450 :1 > Banda video 135 MHZ > Altoparlanti integrati no > On Screen Display (OSD) si > Connettore tipo ''monitor'' D-SUB 15 pin, DVI-D > Tensione di Alimentazione 230 V a.c. (Europa) > Consumo 40 WATT > Certificazioni bassa emissione TCO 99 > Certificazioni risparmio energetico EPA Energy Star, Nutek > Certificazioni di sicurezza e qualit? marcatura CE > Dimensioni in cm (LxAxP) 36.82 x 39.43 x 17.7 cm > Peso 5 KG > Contenuto della confezione Monitor; Cavo VGA; Cavo alimentazione; Manuale > > ============================================================================ > > I hope I understood what you wrote...:) > Alessandro Torrisi. -- From isam at freesoft.jo Mon May 10 08:35:14 2004 From: isam at freesoft.jo (Isam Bayazidi) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:35:14 +0300 Subject: Long Deplay when booting Message-ID: <200405101135.14797.isam@freesoft.jo> in FC2T3 when using one of the kernels: kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.358 OR kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.351 After uncompressing the kernel, and "audit (long number): initialization, in the step: RedHat nash version 2.5.22 starting The system holds for around 40-50 seconds, before proceding with the boot, and running init, and funtioning properly.. it is just that the long delay at booting made me think that the kernel is not working, until I started to write the long numbre in the audit, when after around a minute the system continued properly.. Is this a known bug ? it was not present (still working fine until now) in kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.327 I hope that this will get addressed before the release, Yours, Isam Bayazidi From isam at freesoft.jo Mon May 10 09:30:29 2004 From: isam at freesoft.jo (Isam Bayazidi) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:30:29 +0300 Subject: Long Deplay when booting In-Reply-To: <200405101135.14797.isam@freesoft.jo> References: <200405101135.14797.isam@freesoft.jo> Message-ID: <200405101230.29835.isam@freesoft.jo> I just read in the Fedora News letter than the kernels 351 and after mered with mm, and that testing is needed for Adaptic SCSI and so.. the machine have (from cat cat /proc/scsi/aic7xxx/0) : Adaptec AIC7xxx driver version: 6.2.36 Adaptec 3960D Ultra160 SCSI adapter aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs Allocated SCBs: 4, SG List Length: 128 should I file a bug report about it ? Yours Isam On Monday 10 May 2004 11:35, Isam Bayazidi wrote: > in FC2T3 > when using one of the kernels: > kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.358 OR > kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.351 > > After uncompressing the kernel, and "audit (long number): initialization, > in the step: > RedHat nash version 2.5.22 starting > > The system holds for around 40-50 seconds, before proceding with the boot, > and running init, and funtioning properly.. it is just that the long delay > at booting made me think that the kernel is not working, until I started to > write the long numbre in the audit, when after around a minute the system > continued properly.. > > Is this a known bug ? it was not present (still working fine until now) in > kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.327 > > I hope that this will get addressed before the release, > > Yours, > Isam Bayazidi From foolish at guezz.net Mon May 10 09:41:21 2004 From: foolish at guezz.net (Sindre Pedersen Bjordal) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:41:21 +0200 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <604aa79104050909486f59bd1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1083789473.18050.4.camel@T7.linux> <1084116262.8296.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <409E54EE.8080305@cypher.acomp.usf.edu> <604aa79104050909486f59bd1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1084182080.2240.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> s?n, 09.05.2004 kl. 18.48 skrev Jeff Spaleta: > On Sun, 09 May 2004 11:57:34 -0400, Brian Smith > > Well, if we could get a group together to work on that and set up a > > repository, > > Yep thats exactly what we need.... yet another 3rd party addon repository From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Mon May 10 09:44:28 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:44:28 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild php 4.3.4 for Mysql 4.0 FC2T3 Message-ID: <409F4EFC.6080804@filmakademie.de> Hi, I'd like to test and install the MySQL 4.0 rpms from the mysql.org-webpage on my Fedora Core 2 Test 3 System. This conflicts with the installed Fedora C2T3 php version, so I tried to do a rebuild: rpmbuild --rebuild php-4.3.4-11.src.rpm after some seconds I get some warnings and than an error: /BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c -o ext/curl/curl.o /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c: In function `curl_free_post': /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:563: warning: passing arg 1 of `curl_formfree' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c: In function `alloc_curl_handle': /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:603: error: invalid application of `sizeof' to an incomplete type /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c: In function `zif_curl_setopt': /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:838: error: duplicate case value /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:695: error: previously used here /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:883: warning: passing arg 1 of `curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:883: warning: passing arg 2 of `curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:891: warning: passing arg 1 of `curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:891: warning: passing arg 2 of `curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type make: *** [ext/curl/curl.lo] Error 1 Fehler: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.70129 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.70129 (%build) [root at dilbert root]# rpm -qa|grep curl curl-7.11.1-1 curl-devel-7.11.1-1 HELP :-))) and regards G?tz Reinicke -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Mon May 10 10:05:51 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 03:05:51 -0700 Subject: Invalid context? In-Reply-To: <20040509080624.GA28660@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <1083726961.1424.6.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> <1083790024.2982.3.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> <20040509080624.GA28660@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <20040510100551.GA13167@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 01:06:25AM -0700, Tom Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 04:47:04PM -0400, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 23:16, Joshua Adam Ginsberg wrote: > > > Hello -- > > > > > > I must admit I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to SELinux, but every > > > time I try to install a package, I get about a hundred lines of > > > "/etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context foo on line > > > number ###" with foo and ### different on each line. From reading the > > > archives, I gather I can boot with selinux=0 to avert the problem, but I > > > also gather that wouldn't be desirable. This is a brand, spankin' new > > > installation of FC2T3, so I'm wondering if I've done something wrong or > > > are doing something wrong. Thanks! > > > > > The selinux=0 kernel option is not supported as of 2.6.5-1.349 . > > Setting SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux is the "new and > > improved" way :) > > How... > > # rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/sysconfig/selinux > file /etc/sysconfig/selinux is not owned by any package > > does this file get built I see no obvious clue running 2.6.5-1.356? After a clean install the file /etc/sysconfig/selinux exists. It has the following default content: [root at xyz sysconfig]# cat selinux # This file controls the state of SELinux on the system. # SELINUX= can take one of these three values: # enforcinfg - SELinux security policy is enforced. # permissive - SELinux prints warnings instead of enforcing. # disabled - No SELinux policy is loaded. SELINUX=disabled I suspect that there is one typo in it ;-) Now to look at the CDROMs and discover how it is generated. If the system has never run in enforcing mode or if it has been run disabled for any length of time. First set to permissive so all the context is active to run "fixfiles relabel". -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From chris at menzel.com Mon May 10 10:19:08 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:19:08 +0200 Subject: Suspend to memory: display problem after resume w/ i855 In-Reply-To: <1084107714.2543.12.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> References: <1084107714.2543.12.camel@JustTesting.cse.unsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <1084184348.2514.2.camel@tux> On So, 2004-05-09 at 15:01, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: > I am having problems with suspend-to-memory with a centrino laptop based > on the i855GME chipset (which is also used for the graphics adapter). > Has anybody else seen this? Is there a workaround? I couldn't find > this in Bugzilla, but maybe I overlooked something. I have exactly the same problem with my Dell Precision M50 using the 'nv' driver and didn't find a solution either. Has anybody had success using ACPI to suspend the notebook? Regards Christian -- Christian Menzel menzel.com From eugen at leitl.org Mon May 10 10:19:47 2004 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:19:47 +0200 Subject: FC2 test3 x86_64 ATI 9600 dual head support In-Reply-To: <409EB0BB.5080606@mech.kuleuven.ac.be> References: <20040509215545.D59A0739BC@hormel.redhat.com> <409EB0BB.5080606@mech.kuleuven.ac.be> Message-ID: <20040510101947.GJ25728@leitl.org> Thanks. I was able to get dual-head working with a minor variation based on your setup. 3d hardware acceleration isn't there, so I guess we'll have to wait for ATI's binary drivers. I've never been able to configure dual-head with my (Sapphire) ATI Radeon 9600 with onboard means (system-configure-display and such) though. Is there a trick to it, or is it supposed to proceed without glitches? On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:29:15AM +0200, paul verstraete wrote: > > > > > >Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:18:12 +0200 > >From: Eugen Leitl > >Subject: FC2 test3 x86_64 ATI 9600 dual head support > >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >Message-ID: <20040509201812.GN25728 at leitl.org> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > >Howdy, > > > >just installed FC test 3 x86_64 on an Athlon 64 Asus K8V SE Deluxe (using > >onboard SATA host adaptor (no RAID), and a WD 36 GByte SATA drive). No > >problems so far, but for lack of dual-head support with ATI Radeon 9600. > > > >I see from the archives other people did succeed. Can anyone send me a > >working xorg.conf for a dual-head setup? Thanks! > > > > > > > This one works for a ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, AOC Spectrum (1600x1200 @ > 75hz) and Philips 107S (1152x864 @ 75hz) > # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Multihead layout" > Screen 0 "Screen0" RightOf "Screen1" > Screen 1 "Screen1" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "Xinerama" "on" > Option "Clone" "off" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > > # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the > # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally > # no need to change the default. > # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) > # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of > # the X server to render fonts. > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > FontPath "unix/:7100" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "extmod" > Load "fbdevhw" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > Load "dri" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > > # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) > # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" > # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. > # Option "XkbDisable" > # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the > # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. > # keyboard, you will probably want to use: > # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" > # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: > # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" > # > # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. > # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > # or: > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" > # > # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and > # control keys, use: > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" > # Or if you just want both to be control, use: > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > # > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "keyboard" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "be" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > > ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: > ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: > HorizSync 30.0 - 75.0 > VertRefresh 50.0 - 130.0 > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "AOC SPECTRUM 7Glr & 7GlrA" > DisplaySize 360 270 > ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: > # HorizSync 30.0 - 95.0 > # VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 > Option "dpms" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > > ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: > # HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0 > # VertRefresh 50.0 - 130.0 > Identifier "Monitor1" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "AOC SPECTRUM 7Glr & 7GlrA" > ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: > # HorizSync 0.0 - 0.0 > # VertRefresh 0.0 - 0.0 > Option "dpms" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "radeon" > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > BoardName "ATI Radeon 9700 Pro" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard1" > Driver "radeon" > VendorName "Videocard Vendor" > BoardName "ATI Radeon 9700 Pro" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > Screen 1 > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen1" > Device "Videocard1" > Monitor "Monitor1" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1600x1200" "1152x864" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "DRI" > Group 0 > Mode 0666 > EndSection > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Eugen* Leitl leitl ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 06:38:43 -0400 Subject: Long Deplay when booting In-Reply-To: <200405101230.29835.isam@freesoft.jo> References: <200405101135.14797.isam@freesoft.jo> <200405101230.29835.isam@freesoft.jo> Message-ID: <20040510103843.GE12303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:30:29PM +0300, Isam Bayazidi wrote: > > The system holds for around 40-50 seconds, before proceding with the boot, > > and running init, and funtioning properly.. it is just that the long delay > > at booting made me think that the kernel is not working, until I started to > > write the long numbre in the audit, when after around a minute the system > > continued properly.. The delay sounds to me like "quiet" boot mode. Try booting without the "quiet" option to the kernel. At least you should then see any messages that may explain things. From paul.verstraete at mech.kuleuven.ac.be Mon May 10 10:39:48 2004 From: paul.verstraete at mech.kuleuven.ac.be (paul verstraete) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:39:48 +0200 Subject: FC2 test3 x86_64 ATI 9600 dual head support In-Reply-To: <20040510101959.25B7973AE9@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040510101959.25B7973AE9@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409F5BF4.1000800@mech.kuleuven.ac.be> Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:19:47 +0200 From: Eugen Leitl Subject: Re: FC2 test3 x86_64 ATI 9600 dual head support To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: <20040510101947.GJ25728 at leitl.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks. I was able to get dual-head working with a minor variation based on your setup. 3d hardware acceleration isn't there, so I guess we'll have to wait for ATI's binary drivers. I've never been able to configure dual-head with my (Sapphire) ATI Radeon 9600 with onboard means (system-configure-display and such) though. Is there a trick to it, or is it supposed to proceed without glitches? What system-configure-display did in my case, was putting two times the same monitor defination (same resolutions, same refresh rates) in the xorg.conf file. So I had to edit the file manually, and adjust the settings. Also, the hightest refresh rate in the range you give is tried. If this one is to high for you monitor, the X-server will fail to load. Defining which monitor should be the right or left one, was not possible with the tool too. From alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it Mon May 10 10:41:51 2004 From: alessandro.torrisi at eurone.it (Alessandro Torrisi) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:41:51 +0200 Subject: Inclusion of mono In-Reply-To: <20040510101959.25B7973AE9@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4096DB0E0019F9CF@eta.mail.fw> (added by postmaster@eta.fastwebnet.it) If you want I could do the MIRROR !!! I have got a public IP and I use MONO with Fedora Core...if someone could let me know... I will be happy to rsync (mirror) a mono repository !!! Waiting for you, Alessandro Torrisi. From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Mon May 10 10:50:53 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 06:50:53 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap (deleting mailboxes) In-Reply-To: <52247.62.2.21.164.1084168716.squirrel@www.gwch.net> References: <52247.62.2.21.164.1084168716.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: <1084186253.9025.228.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 01:58, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > [snip]I was *NOT* able to > delete those accounts using 'dm username' I keep getting 'permission > denied'. That's something I'm probably not doing right. > [/snip] > > Deleting in Cyrus isn't that easy, as ususally your admin user needs administrative right for the mailboxes he doesn't > possess. Give it to your mailbox-admin (i think must be cyrus) with 'sam user.mailbox cyrus lrswipcda'. Afther that, > you can successfully delete the desired mailbox. > > HTH > Roger If this in reference to an earlier cyrus-imap thread: I think the problem is that the poster created the mailbox with cm username not cm user.username. I've done this too, and have not figured out how to delete the mailbox created. Bob... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From awol at home.nl Mon May 10 10:57:20 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:57:20 +0200 Subject: what is the status of cpuspeed/cpufreq in FC2 Message-ID: <20040510105720.GA2756@home.nl> chkconfig --list shows 'cpuspeed' running. But I do not get the impression that it is working. In februari 2004 there was a thread in fedora-testlist with respect to 'cpuspeed' because of the syslog boot error message. Then some user configuration was needed to get things working. Furthermore the documentaion in the kernel-source directories, i.e. Documentation/cpu-freq hardly seems to be related to 'cpuspeed'. Alexander From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Mon May 10 10:58:18 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 06:58:18 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap (deleting mailboxes) In-Reply-To: <1084186253.9025.228.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <52247.62.2.21.164.1084168716.squirrel@www.gwch.net> <1084186253.9025.228.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1084186698.9025.231.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 06:50, Bob Chiodini wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 01:58, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > > [snip]I was *NOT* able to > > delete those accounts using 'dm username' I keep getting 'permission > > denied'. That's something I'm probably not doing right. > > [/snip] > > > > Deleting in Cyrus isn't that easy, as ususally your admin user needs administrative right for the mailboxes he doesn't > > possess. Give it to your mailbox-admin (i think must be cyrus) with 'sam user.mailbox cyrus lrswipcda'. Afther that, > > you can successfully delete the desired mailbox. > > > > HTH > > Roger > > If this in reference to an earlier cyrus-imap thread: I think the > problem is that the poster created the mailbox with cm username not cm > user.username. I've done this too, and have not figured out how to > delete the mailbox created. > > Bob... Sorry about the reply to my own post. Just tried the above suggestion. It works fine. Roger, thanks for the info. It sure beats having to recreate the IMAP directories by hand. Bob... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From awol at home.nl Mon May 10 11:03:13 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:03:13 +0200 Subject: what does this 'cdrom: open failed' message mean Message-ID: <20040510110313.GB2756@home.nl> System Log/Kernel Startup Log contain the message: May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: device-mapper: 4.1.0-ioctl (2003-12-10) initialised: dm at uk.sistina.com May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: hdb: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: hdb: packet command error: error=0x51 May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: cdrom: open failed. However the device seems to be working OK. What triggers this message and can I just ignore it. Alexander From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Mon May 10 11:13:47 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 04:13:47 -0700 Subject: Invalid context? In-Reply-To: <20040510100551.GA13167@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <1083726961.1424.6.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> <1083790024.2982.3.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> <20040509080624.GA28660@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> <20040510100551.GA13167@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <20040510111346.GB13167@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 03:05:51AM -0700, Tom Mitchell wrote: > On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 01:06:25AM -0700, Tom Mitchell wrote: > > On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 04:47:04PM -0400, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > > > On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 23:16, Joshua Adam Ginsberg wrote: .... > > > > time I try to install a package, I get about a hundred lines of > > > > "/etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context foo on line .... > > > Setting SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux is the "new and > > > improved" way :) > > > > How... > > > > # rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/sysconfig/selinux > > file /etc/sysconfig/selinux is not owned by any package > > > > does this file get built I see no obvious clue running 2.6.5-1.356? > > After a clean install the file /etc/sysconfig/selinux exists. .... > Now to look at the CDROMs and discover how it is generated. This file is apparently generated by /usr/sbin/lokkit which is run as a normal part of the install process. This explains why rpm does not know about it. Now to look into /usr/sbin/lokkit... -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From francis.souyri at apec.fr Mon May 10 11:27:14 2004 From: francis.souyri at apec.fr (Francis SOUYRI) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:27:14 +0200 Subject: SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. Message-ID: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> Hello, For all the kernel version after the "2.6.4-1.300smp", the SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. With the latest "2.6.5-1.358dmp " version I have this: /[root at fedora root]# cat /proc/scsi/sg/* 0 32768 host chan id lun type opens qdepth busy online 30530 3.5.30 [20040124] /With the "2.6.4-1.300smp" this: /[root at fedora root]# cat /proc/scsi/sg/* 0 dev_max(currently)=6 max_active_device=2 (origin 1) def_reserved_size=32768 32768 host chan id lun type opens qdepth busy online 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 4 0 1 IBM 03490F0103490F01 0728 FUJITSU M2949Q-512 0147 30530 3.5.30 [20040124]/ I try the knoppix 3.4 with the 2.6 kernel I had no problem. Best regards. Francis From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon May 10 11:32:37 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:32:37 -0400 Subject: Sandisk reader problems... Same symptom as firewire? In-Reply-To: <409EF956.80101@8010.co.uk> References: <409EECE1.4060204@insight.rr.com> <409EF956.80101@8010.co.uk> Message-ID: <409F6855.9070800@insight.rr.com> Craig Tinson wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> In reference to the previous message regarding lockup at checking >> hardware and enabling swap errors. I have the same problem with the >> sandisk reader that went bad. The reader failed at the same time I was >> trying to hotplug the scanner from earlier postings. >> >> With a (CF) card in the reader, it will lockup at checking hardware. >> If you disable kudzu, you can get the computer to boot into a normal >> state, even with the card reader messed up. >> I'm not sure if this lockup state is similar to firewire or not. This >> computer does not have firewire ports. >> > just out of curiosity... have you tried other CF cards? I had a similar > problem before and trying a different card showed the reader was fine.. > just a screwed up card.. > > Craig > > (P.S) sorry if this has already been suggested.. am just catching up on > emails while apt has a dicky-fit.. lol > > I'm suspect of the CF card myself. The CF that was inserted was an 8 Meg Flash. I have a 32 Meg Flash chip that I'll try later. The flashing green light, without a card installed, for the CF port leads me to think the card reader is shot. The lockup at checking hardware related to kudzu and the long delay that fdisk -l experienced (kudzu disabled) concerns me. Thanks for the suggestion Jim -- Bank error in your favor. Collect $200. From isam at freesoft.jo Mon May 10 11:49:32 2004 From: isam at freesoft.jo (Isam Bayazidi) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:49:32 +0300 Subject: Long Deplay when booting In-Reply-To: <20040510103843.GE12303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> References: <200405101135.14797.isam@freesoft.jo> <200405101230.29835.isam@freesoft.jo> <20040510103843.GE12303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: <200405101449.33002.isam@freesoft.jo> On Monday 10 May 2004 13:38, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > The delay sounds to me like "quiet" boot mode. Try booting without > the "quiet" option to the kernel. At least you should then see any > messages that may explain things. Indeed, loading the Adaptec SCSI modules takes a long time (it seems it does some testing and auto detecting for drives) and with the quite mode that seemed like a LONG and unexpected delay.. Thanks Isam Bayazidi From fedora at warmcat.com Mon May 10 11:55:13 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:55:13 +0100 Subject: what is the status of cpuspeed/cpufreq in FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040510105720.GA2756@home.nl> References: <20040510105720.GA2756@home.nl> Message-ID: <200405101255.13555.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 May 2004 11:57, Alexander Volovics wrote: > chkconfig --list shows 'cpuspeed' running. > > But I do not get the impression that it is working. > > In februari 2004 there was a thread in fedora-testlist with > respect to 'cpuspeed' because of the syslog boot error message. > Then some user configuration was needed to get things working. > > Furthermore the documentaion in the kernel-source directories, > i.e. Documentation/cpu-freq hardly seems to be related to 'cpuspeed'. There is a kernel module you have to bring in before it will work... for me it was p4-clockmod. Like you I went to the archives and found mainly posts from people saying to look in the archives.... how much better it is for future generations to answer the question and then say they should have looked in the archive. What I did in the end was go looking in /lib/modules for likely looking modules and modprobed them one by one until something good happened. However - on my Inspiron 5150, I found it all pretty useless. Although it would idle to CPU down to 300MHz, and indeeed everything was correspondingly sluggish, this had no effect whatsoever on the (loud and intrusive) fan activity. So I assume much of the heat is coming from the video card / SDRAM and is constant no matter what the CPU rate. I turned it back on to "Performance" and forgot about it. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAn22hjKeDCxMJCTIRAgLGAJ9vbuQ0C5y8qjoep+CQeBVw4/et9gCdEv07 mDEyiJq1zl1sDeIC0jlkZiQ= =IO/p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pcaulfie at redhat.com Mon May 10 12:20:08 2004 From: pcaulfie at redhat.com (Patrick Caulfield) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:20:08 +0100 Subject: SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. In-Reply-To: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> References: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> Message-ID: <20040510122008.GA2325@tykepenguin.com> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 01:27:14PM +0200, Francis SOUYRI wrote: > Hello, > > For all the kernel version after the "2.6.4-1.300smp", the SCSI sg > driver does not see the devices. > For info, I'm seeing this too. If I try to use cdrecord on my USB2 DVD writer it complains that it can't open /dev/sg1 (ENXIO). If I use a stock 2.6.5 kernel then it works fine. -- patrick From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Mon May 10 12:39:27 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:39:27 +0200 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084162190.11622.59.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084138869.11694.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084152517.9856.136.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084157797.22708.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084162190.11622.59.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <1084192766.9856.183.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Chris Kloiber um 06:09: > Things like this beg adding (commented out, perhaps) in the default > sendmail.mc. Can you bugzilla please. If there are postfix changes > necessary, bug that one too. > Chris Kloiber Hi Chris, you are absolutely right. I just filed following bugzilla RFEs: 1) Sendmail -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122909 2) Postfix -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122910 3) Exim -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122912 I hope it helps people willing to give Cyrus-IMAPd a chance. Its one of the most powerful IMAP/POP3 mail daemons with much features. Though or because of that setup is not trivial. Alexander P.S. off-topic, but did you leave Redhat? I ask, because you no longer use the @redhat.com mail address and I wonder. -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl Sirendipity 14:14:02 up 13 days, 13:02, load average: 0.39, 0.29, 0.28 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I created a mailbox 'ckloiber' which > worked, and I could set/remove permissions and store mail there. But I > discovered that all mail boxes should be created like: I remember my first steps with Cyrus-IMAPd and I did the same mistake by creating a mail account with name adalloz instead of user.adalloz. Unfortunately I just do not remember how I got rid of the wrong box. > galileo.ckloiber.com> cm 'user.ckloiber' > > Which gives that user an official 'INBOX:' > So I was having difficulty running the command: > > galileo.ckloiber.com> dm 'ckloiber' > > Which I expect to work when I'm logged in as 'cyrus'. I suspect the > difficulty may lie in the fact the mailbox to be deleted does not follow > the naming convention. Yes, with wrong naming it is not treated as a mailbox. One other thing you should avoid - I did run into that fault by my own lack of knowledge - is, to define in /etc/imapd.conf an additional admin user admins: cyrus kcloiber i.e. here ckloiber and using that account as a normal mailbox too, because you may think it will make some maintenance easier. It will cause you much trouble with wrongly created entries in the cyrus mailbox storage. > Chris Kloiber Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl Sirendipity 14:39:30 up 13 days, 13:27, load average: 0.11, 0.28, 0.29 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From awol at home.nl Mon May 10 12:54:30 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:54:30 +0200 Subject: what is the status of cpuspeed/cpufreq in FC2 In-Reply-To: <200405101255.13555.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <20040510105720.GA2756@home.nl> <200405101255.13555.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <20040510125430.GA3946@home.nl> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:55:13PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: > On Monday 10 May 2004 11:57, Alexander Volovics wrote: > > chkconfig --list shows 'cpuspeed' running. > > But I do not get the impression that it is working. > > In februari 2004 there was a thread in fedora-testlist with > > respect to 'cpuspeed' because of the syslog boot error message. > > Then some user configuration was needed to get things working. > > Furthermore the documentaion in the kernel-source directories, > > i.e. Documentation/cpu-freq hardly seems to be related to 'cpuspeed'. > There is a kernel module you have to bring in before it will work... for me it > was p4-clockmod. Like you I went to the archives and found mainly posts from > people saying to look in the archives.... how much better it is for future > generations to answer the question and then say they should have looked in > the archive. What I did in the end was go looking in /lib/modules for likely > looking modules and modprobed them one by one until something good happened. > However - on my Inspiron 5150, I found it all pretty useless. Although it > would idle to CPU down to 300MHz, and indeeed everything was correspondingly > sluggish, this had no effect whatsoever on the (loud and intrusive) fan > activity. So I assume much of the heat is coming from the video card / SDRAM > and is constant no matter what the CPU rate. I turned it back on to > "Performance" and forgot about it. Thanks for the reply. I had already looked in /lib/modules and found the following possibly relevant modules: acpi.ko, p4-clockmod.ko, powernow-k6.ko, speedstep-smi.ko Indeed p4-clockmod.ko at face value seems to be the best bet for my Inspiron 8200 too. But I do not like trying things out if I can't find any solid documentation describing the workings. Furthermore there is also a module cpufreq-powersave.ko. What is this one supposed to do and in what context? The only documentation to be found is in the kernels-source directory with regard to cpufreq. This, with talk about 'governors' and things like that, does not seem to be relevant anymore and none of the above modules is mentioned. If this is supposed to work on some pcs/laptops I hope it at least gets a mention in the release-notes when FC2 comes out! ACPI also comes without any relevant documentation. Is this for the initiated only? You have to hunt all over the net for some docs and none describe in any detail how you can manipulate and use it. Alexander From alan at redhat.com Mon May 10 12:55:20 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:55:20 -0400 Subject: SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. In-Reply-To: <20040510122008.GA2325@tykepenguin.com> References: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> <20040510122008.GA2325@tykepenguin.com> Message-ID: <20040510125520.GA22683@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 01:20:08PM +0100, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > For info, I'm seeing this too. If I try to use cdrecord on my USB2 DVD writer it > complains that it can't open /dev/sg1 (ENXIO). If I use a stock 2.6.5 kernel > then it works fine. I'm glad people reported this it saved me much pain trying to figure out why I couldn't update disk firmware. Arjan when I asked him says its intentional that /dev/sg now only sees devices not claimed by other drivers (the other drives support SG_IO so you can open them and do raw stuff thst way) Unfortunately the disk fimware tool doesnt know that From chris at menzel.com Mon May 10 13:03:38 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:03:38 +0200 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <20040507160530.GH20101@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040507133817.GA23295@psych> <1083937955.2666.7.camel@stage.menzel.com> <20040507140446.GA29967@psych> <1083942664.2666.11.camel@stage.menzel.com> <20040507160530.GH20101@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084194218.2510.3.camel@stage.menzel.com> On Fr, 2004-05-07 at 18:05, Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 05:11:04PM +0200, Christian Menzel wrote: > > This might be a stupid question, but is it possible to compile the > > kernel with APM enabled and have things working as before in 2.4.x > > kernels? > > Boot with "acpi=off" and try that Yes, that did the trick! When using "acpi=off" apmd is started when booting and everything is working as before, no need to recompile since apm support is build into the kernel. Thank you, Christian -- Christian Menzel From chris at menzel.com Mon May 10 13:07:43 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:07:43 +0200 Subject: ATI fglrx with kernel 2.6.5-1.358 In-Reply-To: <409F5BF4.1000800@mech.kuleuven.ac.be> References: <20040510101959.25B7973AE9@hormel.redhat.com> <409F5BF4.1000800@mech.kuleuven.ac.be> Message-ID: <1084194463.2510.8.camel@stage.menzel.com> Just for the record: fglrx can be compiled and loaded without errors with kernel 2.6.5-1.358. Maybe even one or two kernels before, but I was getting to frustrated to try with to last one or two kernels. Regards Christian -- Christian Menzel From chris at menzel.com Mon May 10 13:15:53 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:15:53 +0200 Subject: ATI fglrx with kernel 2.6.5-1.358 In-Reply-To: <1084194463.2510.8.camel@stage.menzel.com> References: <20040510101959.25B7973AE9@hormel.redhat.com> <409F5BF4.1000800@mech.kuleuven.ac.be> <1084194463.2510.8.camel@stage.menzel.com> Message-ID: <1084194953.2510.15.camel@stage.menzel.com> Sorry for the confusion, I was replying to the wrong mail, this is true for x86 kernels. On Mo, 2004-05-10 at 15:07, Christian Menzel wrote: > Just for the record: > fglrx can be compiled and loaded without errors with kernel 2.6.5-1.358. > > Maybe even one or two kernels before, but I was getting to frustrated > to try with to last one or two kernels. > > Regards > Christian > > > -- > Christian Menzel From eugen at leitl.org Mon May 10 13:20:49 2004 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:20:49 +0200 Subject: x86_64 Fedora Core 2 test3 root reiserfs safe? xfs, too? Message-ID: <20040510132049.GU25728@leitl.org> I noticed it's apparently possible to install Fedora Core 2 test3 with reiserfs on root by passing reiserfs as boot kernel option. As migrating root to reiserfs is painful, I'm going to have to reinstall. 1) Are there any corruption issues reported, especially with x86_64? 2) Are there any other reasons I shouldn't do this? (I'm not going to use SELinux anytime soon). 3) What's the XFS situation? Safe to put on root? 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Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From anthony.seward at ieee.org Mon May 10 13:49:56 2004 From: anthony.seward at ieee.org (Anthony Joseph Seward) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:49:56 -0600 Subject: VMware error with kernel-2.6.5-1.326 In-Reply-To: <1084042566.4879.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> References: <1082058715.2006.22.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <4099B6D1.3030602@cbbaz.com> <1084042566.4879.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <1084196996.3868.1.camel@sonylap1> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 14:56 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > Late response to a late post - get the free upgrade to VMware 4.5.1-7568 > and the vmware-any-any-update65 and try again. If you have properly > installed both the kernel and corresponding kernel-source RPMS, VMware With the 2.6 kernels you don't need the kernel-source .rpm to build external modules. > should find the correct headers itself and provide that as the default > selection. Some posts have indicated that kernel-source is not required > but I can't verify that. > > Phil > Tono From kepa at oceanvoyages.com Mon May 10 13:55:51 2004 From: kepa at oceanvoyages.com (Kepa Lyman) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:55:51 +0100 Subject: xmms leaves playlist up on minimize In-Reply-To: <20040510101958.D891173ABE@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040510101958.D891173ABE@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405101455.51584.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> When minimized, only the xmms control window minimizes to the taskbar, the playlist window stays open on the desktop. This is even if the playlist window is docked to the main control window. This is also true for the equalizer. Maybe this is a "feature"? I am using the HighColor Classic style, and KDE 2 window decorations, but changing these doesn't fix it. From fedora at warmcat.com Mon May 10 14:01:04 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:01:04 +0100 Subject: what is the status of cpuspeed/cpufreq in FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040510125430.GA3946@home.nl> References: <20040510105720.GA2756@home.nl> <200405101255.13555.fedora@warmcat.com> <20040510125430.GA3946@home.nl> Message-ID: <200405101501.04890.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 May 2004 13:54, Alexander Volovics wrote: > ACPI also comes without any relevant documentation. Is this for the > initiated only? You have to hunt all over the net for some docs and > none describe in any detail how you can manipulate and use it. It can get frustrating. The people who work on it know all the kinks, it can be a big effort to capture that working set of knowledge on a particular subject and write in down in a readable way. Here's an idea, maybe Redhat (or Fedoranews, who already has a great tips section) or some other stakeholder should have a page of docs and stuff that is needed, people can register and 'lock' a subject for a couple of days, by which time they have to have submitted and had approved documentation for whatever it was they were interested in. Then they get a credit on the docs and the stuff is added to the official pile. Otherwise the subject comes back up again. Even if nobody bid on the docs, at least there would be a public site tracking what was lacking. Anything that shows up on the mailing list twice, especially anything replied to with "search the list archives" should probably get added. MySQL has a nice system too, eg http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Date_and_time_functions.html It is like a wiki without being uncool. It would be even better if an editor reviewed the comments occasionally and incorporated the good ones into the text (with credit), deleting those comments. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAn4sgjKeDCxMJCTIRApbdAKCFtLnEX4kppD13pZEo3GDcrTV+VwCfQFHB LAC6WovVjXPgSllCKFvtY8A= =2eG/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From thomasz at hostmaster.org Mon May 10 14:03:29 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:03:29 +0200 Subject: x86_64 Fedora Core 2 test3 root reiserfs safe? xfs, too? In-Reply-To: <20040510132049.GU25728@leitl.org> References: <20040510132049.GU25728@leitl.org> Message-ID: <1084197808.1963.4.camel@hostmaster.org> I have been using RedHat now Fedora Development Build with root on ReiserFS for some time now. No data corruption occurred since kernel 2.4. For best integrity I recommend you use a vanilla kernel and put the following in /etc/harddisk$DEVICE: EXTRA_PARAMS="-W 0" Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key I hate beeing a DNA molecule - there's so much to remember! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Otherwise, they ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don't believe you. I searched my "lists.redhat" folder for the word "squatter" and it found 0 results from 13486 messages before I let go of the return key. It took less than two seconds to return the 55 hits (from the same 13486 messages) for the word "mailbox". My client is Pine, and my server is the Cyrus 2.2.3 RPM rebuilt on a meagre (twin 1Ghz PIII, 768M RAM, slowish 4-drive RAID5 array) FC1 server. Hint: man squatter :) From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Mon May 10 14:11:11 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:11:11 +0200 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084192766.9856.183.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084138869.11694.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084152517.9856.136.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084157797.22708.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084162190.11622.59.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084192766.9856.183.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <1084198271.9856.238.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Alexander Dalloz um 14:39: > you are absolutely right. I just filed following bugzilla RFEs: > > 1) Sendmail -> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122909 > > 2) Postfix -> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122910 > > 3) Exim -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122912 Replying to myself, I forgot to mention that everyone with good knowledge about Postfix and Exim - I am just a Sendmail addict - should contribute to the bugzilla entries with suggestions for pre-definitions making it easy to get the MTA + Cyrus-IMAPd combination running. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl Sirendipity 16:08:52 up 13 days, 14:57, load average: 0.62, 0.45, 0.24 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From ksnider at flarn.com Mon May 10 14:18:37 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:18:37 -0400 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409F8F3D.6020907@flarn.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Alan Cox wrote: | MySQL has some licensing changes for 4.0 which mean it can't be used | with php, or apache or many other free but non-GPL pieces of software | (eg openssl). Alan, am I missing something here? Optional GPL License Exception for PHP: http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/opensource-license.html MySQL FOSS License Exception: http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/foss-exception.html A cursory look at the two links above would seem to cover every issue with MySQL 4 that I can think of? - -- Ken Snider -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAn489Jz/2kL0fCRgRAm4DAKCIsbB//Fe4sAk0OiIQPE8AkYTK/wCdGJQz apzvH2j0hmC5fVX+zTWekBE= =ZKzf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From francis.souyri at apec.fr Mon May 10 14:20:46 2004 From: francis.souyri at apec.fr (Francis SOUYRI) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:20:46 +0200 Subject: SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. In-Reply-To: <20040510125520.GA22683@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> <20040510122008.GA2325@tykepenguin.com> <20 040510125520.GA22683@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409F8FBE.4060406@apec.fr> Hello Alan, Alan Cox wrote: >On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 01:20:08PM +0100, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > > >>For info, I'm seeing this too. If I try to use cdrecord on my USB2 DVD writer it >>complains that it can't open /dev/sg1 (ENXIO). If I use a stock 2.6.5 kernel >>then it works fine. >> >> > >I'm glad people reported this it saved me much pain trying to figure out why >I couldn't update disk firmware. > >Arjan when I asked him says its intentional that /dev/sg now only sees devices >not claimed by other drivers (the other drives support SG_IO so you can open >them and do raw stuff thst way) > > The problem with some tape library is that the drive and the changer are the "same" SCSI device the st driver claimed the drive and the library need to be accessed by the sg driver. >Unfortunately the disk fimware tool doesnt know that > > > > Best regards. Francis From mb/redhat at dcs.qmul.ac.uk Mon May 10 14:28:20 2004 From: mb/redhat at dcs.qmul.ac.uk (Matt Bernstein) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:28:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: [gdth?] can't boot FC2 test kernel on FC1 Message-ID: Hi, I have a pretty normal dual-athlon box with a load of hard drives running off an ICP-Vortex GDT8543RZ card. I can install shiny 2.6 kernel RPMs, but they won't boot. My hand-built 2.6.6-rc3 is running just fine (as you can see from the silly IRQ :). 00:08.0 SCSI storage controller: ICP Vortex Computersysteme GmbH GDT 8x43RZ Subsystem: ICP Vortex Computersysteme GmbH GDT 8x43RZ Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort- SERR- [disabled] [size=32K] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- [its ID is 1119:01fd if that helps] When trying to boot the kernel RPM, it successfully loads the initrd which contains all the right drivers, but then after freeing some memory, nothing happens (at this point I'd hope /sbin/init might run!). Has anyone else seen this? I don't know where the problem is, or where to bugzilla it. Another thing I'm doing which might not be entirely regular is that I'm using external journals for all my volumes (it rather helps ext3 performance..). I'm a little concerned that FC2 might not boot. Any light gratefully received.. From kimallamandola at yahoo.it Mon May 10 14:31:02 2004 From: kimallamandola at yahoo.it (=?iso-8859-1?q?kim=20allamandola?=) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:31:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Alsa mute after update (on all kernels) Message-ID: <20040510143102.13836.qmail@web86403.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> last night i update kernel with apt from *353 to *356 and after reboot arts tell me that it cannot open audio device (no such device). Im go to check permission of /dev/dsp ... (pcm.hw:0,0 ...) and i set to 777; audio mute. I launch kcontrol and look for audio setting all ok,audio mute, change device from autodet. to pcm.hw:0,0 and apply, audio works ok. After reboot arts tell me again no such device, i come back to kcontrol and i enable "Full Duplex", apply audio works ok still i reboot, after recousivly arts error... when i make any change on audio i kcontrol thi is the result: -------------------------------------- server status: running, will suspend in 82 s real-time status: real-time server buffer time: 92.8798 ms buffer size multiplier: 1 minimum stream buffer time: 92.8798 ms auto suspend time: 95 s audio method: alsa sampling rate: 44100 channels: 2 sample size: 16 bits duplex: full device: default fragments: 4 fragment size: 4096 ---------------------------------------- and audio works ok still i reboot System: Dell inspiron 8500 Audio card Vendor: Intel Corporation Model: 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Modules snd-intel8x0 Have somebody an idea to fix this? many thanks -- Sorry for my english,this is not my mother language kim allamandola ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Companion - Scarica gratis la toolbar di Ricerca di Yahoo! http://companion.yahoo.it From beu00339 at ccsun50.iitd.ac.in Mon May 10 14:33:28 2004 From: beu00339 at ccsun50.iitd.ac.in (alok garg) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 20:03:28 +0530 Subject: xmms leaves playlist up on minimize In-Reply-To: <200405101455.51584.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> References: <20040510101958.D891173ABE@hormel.redhat.com> <200405101455.51584.kepa@oceanvoyages.com> Message-ID: <1084199608.19923.2.camel@aragon> hi, this is a bug in kwin....it has been fixed and will be available in next version of kde ....for more information go here.... http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66868 http://bugs.xmms.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1608 alok On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 19:25, Kepa Lyman wrote: > When minimized, only the xmms control window minimizes to the taskbar, the > playlist window stays open on the desktop. This is even if the playlist > window is docked to the main control window. > > This is also true for the equalizer. > > Maybe this is a "feature"? > > I am using the HighColor Classic style, and KDE 2 window decorations, but > changing these doesn't fix it. > From gene.heskett at verizon.net Mon May 10 14:33:37 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:33:37 -0400 Subject: that viper 330 video revisited Message-ID: <200405101033.37405.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings; When I made the remark about a rage128 with only 4 megs boggling the mind, in /var/log/dmesg it doesn't show up, but on screen there is an oops and a traceback while kregister? or some similar name is trying to register in the radeon framebuffer to go with it. I'm gonna assume it never saw a rage128 with only 4 megs is the cause. However, when running X, there are times when I have to force a screen refresh by expanding a terminal screen and then resizing it back to its normal size because the screen has become contaminated with horizontal grey bars. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From alan at redhat.com Mon May 10 14:50:44 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:50:44 -0400 Subject: ICH5 fails on P4P800SE (new ASUS) board revisited In-Reply-To: <000001c43694$f9469a30$0200000a@frank> References: <000001c43694$f9469a30$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <20040510145044.GB8186@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 07:44:53AM -0600, raxet wrote: > I'm going to start unplugging my USB devices (except keyboard/mouse) and see > where that gets me. Would turning USB off in the bios not be simpler. Do you have a non USB keyboard From alan at redhat.com Mon May 10 15:02:04 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:02:04 -0400 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <409F8F3D.6020907@flarn.com> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <409F8F3D.6020907@flarn.com> Message-ID: <20040510150204.GC8186@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 10:18:37AM -0400, Ken Snider wrote: > Optional GPL License Exception for PHP: > http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/opensource-license.html > > MySQL FOSS License Exception: > http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/foss-exception.html > > A cursory look at the two links above would seem to cover every issue with > MySQL 4 that I can think of? The PHP exception is useless because php itself with apache is using third party non GPL stuff. That was discussed long ago. The newer FOSS License one looks more promising and I guess will be good discussion for FC3 From jurgen at botz.org Mon May 10 15:05:14 2004 From: jurgen at botz.org (Jurgen Botz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:05:14 -0700 Subject: CD ripping is broken on USB drives In-Reply-To: <1084172679.4925.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> References: <409D6A24.6050808@botz.org> <409F232F.9050505@botz.org> <1084172679.4925.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Message-ID: <409F9A2A.8070008@botz.org> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > But you don't need sg to rip from USB.... > Yes I know I sound like a broken record. Not quite... you do not repeat yourself, but you rhyme (apologies to Mark Twain). Seriously, if you don't need sg to rip from USB, could you PLEASE enlighten us as to how it's done??? Even if I explicitly tell cdparanoia to used /dev/scd0 as both the cdrom device and generic device it still tries to open sg0... nova:/tmp$ cdparanoia -d /dev/scd0 -g /dev/scd0 1 cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001) (C) 2001 Monty and Xiphophorus Report bugs to paranoia at xiph.org http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/ Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Read-only file system). retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Read-only file system). retrying in 1 second. ... Is there a secret undocumented "don't use sg" flag? Or did you mean by "you don't need..." that someone ought to fix the applications not to demand the sg device? If the later, I'll even volunteer to work on it, just bloody say so! (And of course it's too late for FC2, which means that in any case I'm right and CD ripping is broken from USB in FC2.) :j From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Mon May 10 15:10:13 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:10:13 -0500 Subject: Looking for opinions... Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E37D@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> On Sunday, May 09, 2004 5:57 PM, Neil B. Cohen Wrote: > Does anyone have any comments on whether a combination > printer/scanner/copier is a good or bad idea in the first place? Should > I stick with separate devices? One way or another, I need to get a > working printer on my machine - if I get a standalone scanner then I'll > just have to make the Epson work... I bought an HP all-in-one because it appeared that I could get it working in Linux, but when I started trying to connect it, it started getting messy and I was in a big hurry so when I found out that it would do faxing and stuff stand alone I just started using it that way. Then of course being the great procrastinator that I am, it is still sitting there disconnected. But what I wanted to comment on is that the scanner part is less useful than a flatbed scanner. There has been several times that I have had to fire up the flatbed scanner to scan odd sized documents. And then trying to scan something out of a book or magazine is more difficult on the all-in-one too. -Scott From jurgen at botz.org Mon May 10 15:12:08 2004 From: jurgen at botz.org (Jurgen Botz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:12:08 -0700 Subject: CD ripping is broken on USB drives In-Reply-To: <409F9A2A.8070008@botz.org> References: <409D6A24.6050808@botz.org> <409F232F.9050505@botz.org> <1084172679.4925.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <409F9A2A.8070008@botz.org> Message-ID: <409F9BC8.2070100@botz.org> Jurgen Botz wrote: > I explicitly tell cdparanoia to used /dev/scd0 as both > the cdrom device and generic device it still tries to > open sg0... >[...] > Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Read-only file system). > retrying in 1 second. I just noticed that the error message is not consistent with what I said... in fact, if I just use "cdparaoia -g /dev/scd0" then I get "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (No such device or address)", i.e. it seems to be ignoring my "-g" and trying to open sg0 anyway. If I specify both -d and -g I get the above which is maybe even stranger. In any case it doesn't work. :j From jurgen at botz.org Mon May 10 15:21:17 2004 From: jurgen at botz.org (Jurgen Botz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:21:17 -0700 Subject: CD ripping is broken on USB drives In-Reply-To: <20040510150846.GA13325@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <409D6A24.6050808@botz.org> <409F232F.9050505@botz.org> <1084172679.4925.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <409F9A2A.8070008@botz.org> <20040510150846.GA13325@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409F9DED.6070907@botz.org> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > this means something has /dev/scd0 open already, for example magicdev or > nautilus or ... Naw, you don't get off that easy. I tried it without X running and I get the same thing. I can eject my audio CD, insert a data CD, mount it, unmount & eject, re-insert my audio CD and I still get the same thing. Could you just actually try it? Try ripping a track of an audio CD without sg loaded and tell us what the cdparanoia invocation is that works. :j From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Mon May 10 15:39:18 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:39:18 -0400 Subject: svnserver, needs to be added to services Message-ID: subversion includes /usr/bin/svnserver, but there is no /etc/init.d entry. Would be nice. From jorton at redhat.com Mon May 10 15:55:32 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:55:32 -0400 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 1 Test Update: httpd-2.0.49-1.1 Message-ID: <20040510155531.GA16061@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-117 2004-05-10 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : httpd Version : 2.0.49 Release : 1.1 Summary : Apache HTTP Server Description : Apache is a powerful, full-featured, efficient, and freely-available Web server. Apache is also the most popular Web server on the Internet. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest stable release of Apache httpd 2.0, including a security fix for a memory leak in mod_ssl which can be triggered remotely (CVE CAN-2004-0113), and a fix for escaping of error log output (CVE CAN-2003-0020). This update also includes an enhanced version of the mod_cgi module which fixes a long-standing bug in the handling of stderr output during CGI script execution. Please add any feedback from testing to the tracker bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118798 --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri May 07 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.49-1.1 - fix 2.0.48's httpd loading 2.0.49's mod_expires.so * Fri May 07 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.49-1.0 - update to 2.0.49 (thanks to Robert Scheck, #118798) - make "noindex" page valid XHTML 1.1 (Pascal Volk, #122020) - restore /etc/httpd/build/libtool symlink (#113720) - mod_cgi: backport fixes for stderr handling (upstream #22030) - mod_dav: misc improvements - add rgetline NUL-termination fixes (Tsurutani Naoki, upstream #28376) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 25e131342d7ba91193a2060939561457 SRPMS/httpd-2.0.49-1.1.src.rpm c53041217a267836c99f5b17661a91a9 i386/httpd-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm e39588a069962b6a95b1e06401630cbe i386/httpd-devel-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm 450a0cd7d9b9f442583787cbc9faf630 i386/httpd-manual-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm c85fbce55cc6e449d69b0d9053722b4f i386/mod_ssl-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm b7e7f8d0d1340ed944fc0f2bff22cd1d i386/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm 43a453f81e7185da6eab0681a094ea48 x86_64/httpd-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm 6aebe6ef460860e1fa1d40bee8540876 x86_64/httpd-devel-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm a07409a4220d7cb0e25fa17b9f0a5cfb x86_64/httpd-manual-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm d798f8673e1b4eca5ed149fc58d87838 x86_64/mod_ssl-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm fd7947c0fa75feaae33085f33fc548fb x86_64/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From michal at harddata.com Mon May 10 15:56:39 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:56:39 -0600 Subject: Latex (tetex) and utf8 In-Reply-To: <409EDF82.9010307@uqo.ca>; from fraczak@uqo.ca on Sun, May 09, 2004 at 09:48:50PM -0400 References: <409EDF82.9010307@uqo.ca> Message-ID: <20040510095639.A11632@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 09:48:50PM -0400, Wojciech Fraczak wrote: > I somehow managed to install latex-ucs files by coping them into > /usr/share/texmf/ tree. Do you know a better way? Certainly. A file texmf.cnf puts into a search patch TEXMFLOCAL (and HOMETEXMF for really "private" additions). TEXMFLOCAL is defined, in texmf.cnf, as /usr/local/share/texmf and a system-wide "extras", where it could be tons of these for different reasons, go into that tree with a structure which mimics the one you can find under /usr/share/texmf/. The later is reserved for a "standard" stuff and it can be totally clobbered on the next update. Besides no TeX installation is really complete before a run of 'texconfig' but I do not see a way to put that into a package (maybe a note to that effect in a "description" section?). Peeking into texmf.cnf also can be educational. Michal From jorton at redhat.com Mon May 10 16:06:25 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:06:25 +0100 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <1084134176.4753.74.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> <409E4403.7000006@gmx.de> <1084115440.4753.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040509163125.GD28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084134176.4753.74.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040510160625.GA30263@redhat.com> On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 10:22:56PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hello Alan, > > > I'd assume a mysql list is the place to ask ? > > Box office attitude. Fedora-legal would be a better forum. Or > fedora-devel. My main question is if the current state of affairs allows > later version of MySQL to be included in Fedora Core (>= 3). How about > http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/foss-exception.html . Does that > still leaves concerns to be addressed? A brief update by somebody > involved would be nice. The situation still has not really changed since we brought it up in June 2004. MySQL are still working on a suitable license exception - the current version still prohibits us from including both the MySQL client libraries and the MySQL server in Fedora Core. Additionally, and I'll keep repeating this: changes made to the MySQL web site do not affect the licensing of released MySQL tarballs. It makes no difference what press releases are made or what web pages are updated, until tarballs hit the ground which are licensed with the new exception. That hasn't happened yet. community at lists.mysql.com is the appropriate list to ask questions about the status of the license exception. Regards, joe From richard at littlerichard.org Mon May 10 16:10:31 2004 From: richard at littlerichard.org (Richard) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 18:10:31 +0200 Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set Message-ID: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> I just upgraded my custom kernel 2.6.5-1.349 to 2.6.5-1.358. Got kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358, reverse linux-2.6.5-nostack patch, and i used default config file kernel-2.6.5-i686.config with CONFIG_4KSTACKS not set. Build is ok, but the kernel don't boot, hangs on "Uncompressing ..." The default kernel 2.6.5-1.358 works fine. Thx. Richard richard_at_littlerichard.org From masterra at m-ra.net Mon May 10 16:22:48 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:22:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set In-Reply-To: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> References: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> Message-ID: Ahh, someone else with my problem. I didn't wanna say anything until i was sure, but i get the same problem on the 356 kernel as well. I was about to resort to a vanilla kernel build, becuase i need my nvidia acceleration working. I see the exact same problem - i reverse the nostacks patch, and compiled with the default config, but with CONFIG_4KSTACKS not set. compile goes fine, then when i try to boot, it just stops after uncompressing linux. Anyone else? On Mon, 10 May 2004, Richard wrote: > I just upgraded my custom kernel 2.6.5-1.349 to 2.6.5-1.358. > Got kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358, reverse linux-2.6.5-nostack patch, and i > used default config file kernel-2.6.5-i686.config with CONFIG_4KSTACKS > not set. > Build is ok, but the kernel don't boot, hangs on "Uncompressing ..." > The default kernel 2.6.5-1.358 works fine. > Thx. > > Richard > richard_at_littlerichard.org > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Mon May 10 16:49:26 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:49:26 -0400 Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set In-Reply-To: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> References: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> Message-ID: <1084207766.12447.0.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 12:10, Richard wrote: > I just upgraded my custom kernel 2.6.5-1.349 to 2.6.5-1.358. > Got kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358, reverse linux-2.6.5-nostack patch, and i > used default config file kernel-2.6.5-i686.config with CONFIG_4KSTACKS > not set. > Build is ok, but the kernel don't boot, hangs on "Uncompressing ..." > The default kernel 2.6.5-1.358 works fine. > Thx. > > Richard > richard_at_littlerichard.org Make sure REGPARM is not set Bob... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Mon May 10 17:01:00 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:01:00 +0200 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <20040510160625.GA30263@redhat.com> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> <409E4403.7000006@gmx.de> <1084115440.4753.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040509163125.GD28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084134176.4753.74.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040510160625.GA30263@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084208459.4753.57.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hey Joe, Thanks for the update. So nothing changed significantly since June 2003? Is Red Hat directly involved in negotiations/discussions with MySQL AB on this matter? How about the suggestions by Matias that the problem with libmysqlclient will be fixed soon by MySQL AB? > community at lists.mysql.com is the appropriate list to ask questions about > the status of the license exception. I am not so much interested in the technical details of the licenses, but only whether the current state of affairs makes it possible to include later versions of MySQL in Fedora Core and RHEL. Hence I ask here. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From si at bananas.hopto.org Mon May 10 17:03:15 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 18:03:15 +0100 Subject: Anaconda - SATA_SiL Support In-Reply-To: <20040510160014.05DA873C69@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <00bc01c436b0$af2db9d0$f901a8c0@bananas.hopto.org> If kernel 2.6.5 in t3 has Silicon Support but Anaconda has not been told about it, then surely after booting off the cd go to a shell and alter a file to get it to find my drive / controller? Can anyone tell what file(s) may need to be alter so I can install T3... am really wanting to try it but am unable to!!! Cheers From gcarter at aesgi.com Mon May 10 17:18:53 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:18:53 -0500 Subject: CD ripping is broken on USB drives In-Reply-To: <409F9DED.6070907@botz.org> References: <409D6A24.6050808@botz.org> <409F232F.9050505@botz.org> <1084172679.4925.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <409F9A2A.8070008@botz.org> <20040510150846.GA13325@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <409F9DED.6070907@botz.org> Message-ID: <409FB97D.20506@aesgi.com> On a related thread I handled several requests recently from users who were using cdroaster, which would crash after updating to Fedora Core 2. Appearently, the initial setup you go through with cdroaster, to enumerate devices had changed. So I simply reran the setup and deleted the old 0,0,0 device. I think Fedora renumerated the devices on startup as now the CD is listed as 1,0,0 and not 0,0,0 as it was before. Now, the hard disk is listed as 0,0,0. Since when did the hard disk now become part of the enumerated SCSI devices with the now deprecated ide-scsi=/dev/hdc kernel command line option? Is this normal? -gc Jurgen Botz wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > >> this means something has /dev/scd0 open already, for example magicdev or >> nautilus or ... > > > Naw, you don't get off that easy. I tried it without X running > and I get the same thing. I can eject my audio CD, insert a data > CD, mount it, unmount & eject, re-insert my audio CD and I still > get the same thing. > > Could you just actually try it? Try ripping a track of an audio > CD without sg loaded and tell us what the cdparanoia invocation is > that works. > > :j > > From andy at plausible.org Mon May 10 17:19:56 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:19:56 -0700 Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set In-Reply-To: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> References: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> Message-ID: <409FB9BC.3030301@plausible.org> Richard wrote: > I just upgraded my custom kernel 2.6.5-1.349 to 2.6.5-1.358. Got > kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358, reverse linux-2.6.5-nostack patch, and i > used default config file kernel-2.6.5-i686.config with > CONFIG_4KSTACKS not set. Build is ok, but the kernel don't boot, > hangs on "Uncompressing ..." The default kernel 2.6.5-1.358 works > fine. No idea about your problem, but I can report that a stock 2.6.6 kernel works fine with FC2 and the NVidia 5336 drivers using (mostly) the FC2 kernel configuration. I turned on NTFS, and turned off REGPARM and the 4G/4G split feature for my build. And, of course, I left 4KSTACKS disabled, as it is by default. Hardware is a Athlon 1800XP, KT333, Geforce 5700 Ultra. Andy From akabi at speakeasy.net Mon May 10 17:33:38 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: x86_64 Fedora Core 2 test3 root reiserfs safe? xfs, too? In-Reply-To: <20040510132049.GU25728@leitl.org> References: <20040510132049.GU25728@leitl.org> Message-ID: On May 10, 2004 at 15:20, Eugen Leitl in a soothing rage wrote: [...] >3) What's the XFS situation? Safe to put on root? I use XFS on my FC2t3 machine. It is an Athlon 1400+ with 512MB PC133 Ram, Matrox 550 and a couple of old harddrive (6Gb & 20Gb). N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Excessive login or logout messages are a sure sign of senility. 13:30:54 up 51 days, 2:03, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From richard at littlerichard.org Mon May 10 17:35:22 2004 From: richard at littlerichard.org (Richard) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:35:22 +0200 Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set In-Reply-To: <1084207766.12447.0.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> <1084207766.12447.0.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <409FBD5A.1060804@littlerichard.org> Bob Chiodini wrote: >On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 12:10, Richard wrote: > > >>I just upgraded my custom kernel 2.6.5-1.349 to 2.6.5-1.358. >>Got kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358, reverse linux-2.6.5-nostack patch, and i >>used default config file kernel-2.6.5-i686.config with CONFIG_4KSTACKS >>not set. >>Build is ok, but the kernel don't boot, hangs on "Uncompressing ..." >>The default kernel 2.6.5-1.358 works fine. >>Thx. >> >>Richard >>richard_at_littlerichard.org >> >> > >Make sure REGPARM is not set > >Bob... > > I just rebuild with REGPARM not set, same issue. Richard richard_at_littlerichard.org From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 10 17:50:47 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 01:50:47 +0800 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084192766.9856.183.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084138869.11694.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084152517.9856.136.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084157797.22708.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084162190.11622.59.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084192766.9856.183.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <1084211447.28996.15.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 20:39, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > P.S. off-topic, but did you leave Redhat? I ask, because you no longer > use the @redhat.com mail address and I wonder. No, still here, but my @redhat.com email has a quota, my private email puts @gmail.google.com to shame (if I choose to use it all). One more good reason for figuring out cyrus asap, although that machine runs Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 ES, not Fedora is it is a "production" machine. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 10 17:54:17 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 01:54:17 +0800 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084193212.9856.192.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083955506.9856.45.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084103629.18548.24.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084137509.11058.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <1084146186.11622.40.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084152912.9856.144.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> <1084161991.11622.56.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084193212.9856.192.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Message-ID: <1084211657.28996.19.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 20:46, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > One other thing you should avoid - I did run into that fault by my own > lack of knowledge - is, to define in /etc/imapd.conf an additional admin > user > > admins: cyrus kcloiber > > i.e. here ckloiber and using that account as a normal mailbox too, > because you may think it will make some maintenance easier. It will > cause you much trouble with wrongly created entries in the cyrus mailbox > storage. This one I picked up on myself. What I haven't tested yet is if I cm 'user.ckloiber', do I need to use 'user.ckloiber' or 'ckloiber' as my username in imap clients to log in? -- Chris Kloiber From masterra at m-ra.net Mon May 10 18:00:20 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:00:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set In-Reply-To: <409FBD5A.1060804@littlerichard.org> References: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> <1084207766.12447.0.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <409FBD5A.1060804@littlerichard.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 2004, Richard wrote: > Bob Chiodini wrote: > > >On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 12:10, Richard wrote: > > > > > >>I just upgraded my custom kernel 2.6.5-1.349 to 2.6.5-1.358. > >>Got kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358, reverse linux-2.6.5-nostack patch, and i > >>used default config file kernel-2.6.5-i686.config with CONFIG_4KSTACKS > >>not set. > >>Build is ok, but the kernel don't boot, hangs on "Uncompressing ..." > >>The default kernel 2.6.5-1.358 works fine. > >>Thx. > >> > >>Richard > >>richard_at_littlerichard.org > >> > >> > > > >Make sure REGPARM is not set > > > >Bob... > > > > > I just rebuild with REGPARM not set, same issue. > > Richard > richard_at_littlerichard.org > I'm currently rebuilding without REGPARM, but won't get to test it until i get home from work.. about 3 hours from now. I'm also compiling a stock 2.6.6 with all (most) of the same settings, and wtih 4KSTACKS and REGPARM unset, so i'll test it too. -Quasar From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Mon May 10 18:05:07 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 20:05:07 +0200 Subject: what does this 'cdrom: open failed' message mean In-Reply-To: <20040510110313.GB2756@home.nl> References: <20040510110313.GB2756@home.nl> Message-ID: <1084212307.5226.1.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Alexander Volovics um 13:03: > System Log/Kernel Startup Log contain the message: > > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: device-mapper: 4.1.0-ioctl (2003-12-10) initialised: dm at uk.sistina.com > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: hdb: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: hdb: packet command error: error=0x51 > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: cdrom: open failed. Your drive seems to be just empty. > However the device seems to be working OK. > What triggers this message and can I just ignore it. The message should disappear with CD inserted. In this case you can savely ignore it - otherwise there is a problem. Peter From ksnider at flarn.com Mon May 10 18:07:13 2004 From: ksnider at flarn.com (Ken Snider) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:07:13 -0400 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <20040510160625.GA30263@redhat.com> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> <409E4403.7000006@gmx.de> <1084115440.4753.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040509163125.GD28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084134176.4753.74.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040510160625.GA30263@redhat.com> Message-ID: <409FC4D1.1050902@flarn.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Joe Orton wrote: | The situation still has not really changed since we brought it up in | June 2004. I assume you mean 2003. ;) Also, I'd like to submit, again, that yes, the situation has changed.. See: http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/foss-exception.html | Additionally, and I'll keep repeating this: changes made to the MySQL | web site do not affect the licensing of released MySQL tarballs. It | makes no difference what press releases are made or what web pages are | updated, until tarballs hit the ground which are licensed with the new | exception. That hasn't happened yet. This appears true, but knowing that the above satisfies requirements assists in evangelism - if we know that the license is now acceptable, it merely needs to be in the tarballs, that allows for a more focused effort to be unleashed against MySQL AB. - -- Ken Snider -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAn8TQJz/2kL0fCRgRAgrfAJ4gqyCYCJ8ygrK6j9eBQB9UQHlgkwCfQOrD fhYGKD2wIntXhh5uBikgii4= =PSPz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fenlason at redhat.com Mon May 10 18:08:16 2004 From: fenlason at redhat.com (Jay Fenlason) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:08:16 -0400 Subject: [Security] Please test new rsync-2.5.7-5.fc1 rpms that fix a security hole Message-ID: <20040510180816.GA28941@redhat.com> Updated rsync packages that fix a directory traversal security flaw are now available for testing. Problem Description: --------------------------------------- Rsync is a program for synchronizing files. Rsync before 2.6.1 does not properly sanitize paths when running a read/write daemon without using chroot. This could allow a remote attacker the ability to write files outside of the module's "path", depending on the privileges assigned to the rsync daemon. Users not running an rsync daemon, running a read-only daemon, or running a chrooted daemon are not affected by this issue. The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org) has assigned the name CAN-2004-0426 to this issue. These updated rpms contain a backported patch and are not affected by this issue. Please test them and report if they fail to work identically to the previous 2.5.7 rpm. These updated rpms will be pushed as an official Fedora Core 1 update no later than the end of May, so please test them and report problems as soon as possible. -- JF From sdhmis at sheratondover.com Mon May 10 18:39:55 2004 From: sdhmis at sheratondover.com (Kenneth Benson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:39:55 -0400 Subject: Compaq Deskpro sound Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: ByteEnable [mailto:ByteEnable at austin.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 9:21 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: Compaq Deskpro sound > > > On Friday 07 May 2004 15:55, Kenneth Benson wrote: > > I have a Compaq Deskpro (yes I know its old, but it runs > good so far) EN > > series. It uses an onboard sound chip which is an Ess-1888. > The problem is > > that the es18xx drivers don't see it so I have no sound. Is > this a known > > problem or can someone make an suggestions? > > > > Compaq Deskpro DPENM-P400 with 256MB ram, 40GB drive and > up2dated to this > > morning with kernel 351. > > > > Did the sound work before? Is the sound turned on in BIOS? > > Byte > The sound is enabled and it worked in Windoze and it used to work with RH9. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What I haven't tested yet is if I cm > 'user.ckloiber', do I need to use 'user.ckloiber' or 'ckloiber' as my > username in imap clients to log in? > Chris Kloiber ckloiber will be your username with which you authenticate. Certain as long as we are speaking about single domain setup. If running the new virtual domain hosting feature I am not sure whether you might authenticate with user at realm where realm is then the specific domain. I would guess it might be this way. You then will have to store the user auth data in the sasldb2 too with the proper realm set. As far as I remember the "user.accountname" scheme is for distinction between personal user mailboxes and shared boxes. 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See: > http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing/foss-exception.html I'm just referring to whether or not we can include MySQL 4.0 in Fedora Core. That situation has not changed at all, unfortunately. There was a similarly well-intentioned web page back then, too, FWIW. > | Additionally, and I'll keep repeating this: changes made to the MySQL > | web site do not affect the licensing of released MySQL tarballs. It > | makes no difference what press releases are made or what web pages are > | updated, until tarballs hit the ground which are licensed with the new > | exception. That hasn't happened yet. > > This appears true, but knowing that the above satisfies requirements assists > in evangelism - if we know that the license is now acceptable, it merely needs > to be in the tarballs, that allows for a more focused effort to be unleashed > against MySQL AB. Right, but the current foss-exception.html page does *not* satisfy the requirements for inclusion of a future MySQL release in FC, in case that wasn't clear already. Regards, joe From jorton at redhat.com Mon May 10 19:12:37 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 20:12:37 +0100 Subject: MySQL and Apache Updates In-Reply-To: <1084208459.4753.57.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1084062528.15642.39.camel@wfrazee.serveftp.com> <20040509103758.GB1854@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084106285.4753.13.camel@athlon.localdomain> <409E4403.7000006@gmx.de> <1084115440.4753.41.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040509163125.GD28970@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084134176.4753.74.camel@athlon.localdomain> <20040510160625.GA30263@redhat.com> <1084208459.4753.57.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040510191237.GB30555@redhat.com> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 07:01:00PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Thanks for the update. So nothing changed significantly since June 2003? > Is Red Hat directly involved in negotiations/discussions with MySQL AB > on this matter? I've spent quite a bit of time working with Zak Greant at MySQL reviewing the various proposals of license exceptions they've come up with; they know what the problems are. > How about the suggestions by Matias that the problem with > libmysqlclient will be fixed soon by MySQL AB? Well, people have been saying that since June 2003 :( joe From awol at home.nl Mon May 10 19:20:02 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:20:02 +0200 Subject: what does this 'cdrom: open failed' message mean In-Reply-To: <1084212307.5226.1.camel@littlePiet> References: <20040510110313.GB2756@home.nl> <1084212307.5226.1.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <20040510192002.GA2515@home.nl> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 08:05:07PM +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Alexander Volovics um 13:03: > > System Log/Kernel Startup Log contain the message: > > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: device-mapper: 4.1.0-ioctl (2003-12-10) initialised: dm at uk.sistina.com > > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: hdb: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: hdb: packet command error: error=0x51 > > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: cdrom: open failed. > Your drive seems to be just empty. > > However the device seems to be working OK. > > What triggers this message and can I just ignore it. > The message should disappear with CD inserted. In this case you can > savely ignore it - otherwise there is a problem. OK, I just now rebooted with a cd in the drive and the message disappears. But why should I get the message in the first place. I have never seen it before. Alexander From billg at f-m.fm Mon May 10 19:38:40 2004 From: billg at f-m.fm (billg) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:38:40 -0400 Subject: Virgin Yum Says "No Server" After 7 May Install & Yum Update; Why> Message-ID: <1084217920.15557.196195609@webmail.messagingengine.com> I know this has been beat to death, but running "yum check-update" is telling me the server isn't there. This is on an FC2 Test3 machine built on 7 May from ISO's pulled down on 6 May and successfully updated via yum on 7 may (i.e., freeze day). I did not receive this error on that day and have made zero changes to yum's configuration, ever, period. Why did yum work on 7 May but not since? Did the update pull down a bogus list of servers? Here's what I'm seeing: "yum check-update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - i386 - Base retrygrab() failed for: http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found" Thanks.Yum From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 10 19:50:09 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:50:09 +0200 Subject: Virgin Yum Says "No Server" After 7 May Install & Yum Update; Why> In-Reply-To: <1084217920.15557.196195609@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1084217920.15557.196195609@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <409FDCF1.1070007@gmx.de> billg wrote: >I know this has been beat to death, but running "yum check-update" is >telling me the server isn't there. This is on an FC2 Test3 machine built >on 7 May from ISO's pulled down on 6 May and successfully updated via yum >on 7 may (i.e., freeze day). I did not receive this error on that day >and have made zero changes to yum's configuration, ever, period. Why did >yum work on 7 May but not since? Did the update pull down a bogus list >of servers? > >Here's what I'm seeing: > >"yum check-update > >Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) >Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - i386 - Base >retrygrab() failed for: > http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info > Executing failover method >failover: out of servers to try >Error getting file >http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info >[Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found" > url-redirection problem ? Not Found The requested URL /pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/.92/headers/header.info was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. The following URL could not be retrieved: ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/.92/ -- shrek-m From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon May 10 19:55:17 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:55:17 -0400 Subject: Virgin Yum Says "No Server" After 7 May Install & Yum Update; Why> In-Reply-To: <1084217920.15557.196195609@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1084217920.15557.196195609@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1084218917.1879.124.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 15:38, billg wrote: > I know this has been beat to death, ... > ... I did not receive this error on that day > and have made zero changes to yum's configuration, ever, period. Zero changes is the likely problem. Use a mirror/mirrors. See http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg02846.html for details. From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Mon May 10 20:00:33 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:00:33 -0500 Subject: Latest yum update...Quake III and UT2004 no workie Message-ID: <200405101500.33244.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> I updated to the latest packages shown below. I did not change the kernel. Now Quake III resests the XServer, and UT2004 just hangs. Byte [Mon May 10 01:14:32 2004] up2date installing packages: ['kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358', 'kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.131', 'boost-1.31.0-7', 'boost-devel-1.31.0-7', 'desktop-backgrounds-basic-2.0-20', 'desktop-backgrounds-extra-2.0-20', 'evolution-1.4.6-2', 'glibc-2.3.3-26', 'glibc-common-2.3.3-26', 'glibc-devel-2.3.3-26', 'glibc-headers-2.3.3-26', 'gnome-applets-2.6.0-5', 'gpm-1.20.1-49', 'gpm-devel-1.20.1-49', 'grub-0.94-5', 'htmlview-3.0.0-4', 'httpd-2.0.49-4', 'initscripts-7.53-1', 'kdelibs-3.2.2-4', 'kdelibs-devel-3.2.2-4', 'kdepim-3.2.2-2', 'kdepim-devel-3.2.2-2', 'kdesdk-3.2.2-2', 'kdesdk-devel-3.2.2-2', 'kdeutils-3.2.2-3', 'kdeutils-devel-3.2.2-3', 'kudzu-1.1.62-1', 'kudzu-devel-1.1.62-1', 'libgsf-1.9.0-2', 'libgsf-devel-1.9.0-2', 'libtermcap-2.0.8-38', 'libtermcap-devel-2.0.8-38', 'lvm2-2.00.15-2', 'metacity-2.8.1-2', 'mkinitrd-3.5.22-1', 'mozilla-1.6-6', 'mozilla-nspr-1.6-6', 'mozilla-nss-1.6-6', 'ncurses-5.4-5', 'ncurses-devel-5.4-5', 'nscd-2.3.3-26', 'pan-0.14.2-7', 'policy-1.11.3-3', 'policycoreutils-1.11-2', 'ppp-2.4.2-2', 'prelink-0.3.2-1', 'python-2.3.3-6', 'python-devel-2.3.3-6', 'pyxf86config-0.3.18-2', 'qt-3.3.2-2', 'qt-designer-3.3.2-2', 'qt-devel-3.3.2-2', 'redhat-menus-1.4.1-1', 'rhythmbox-0.8.3-3', 'samba-3.0.3-5', 'samba-client-3.0.3-5', 'samba-common-3.0.3-5', 'sane-backends-1.0.13-7', 'sane-backends-devel-1.0.13-7', 'setuptool-1.15-1', 'strace-4.5.3-1', 'unixODBC-2.2.8-5', 'up2date-4.3.18-2', 'up2date-gnome-4.3.18-2', 'xinitrc-3.40-1', 'xorg-x11-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-base-fonts-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-devel-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-font-utils-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-libs-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-libs-data-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-tools-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-twm-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-xauth-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-xdm-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-xfs-6.7.0-2', 'yum-2.0.7-1'] From jorton at redhat.com Mon May 10 20:05:32 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:05:32 +0100 Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 1 Test Update: httpd-2.0.49-1.1 Message-ID: <20040510200532.GA30689@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-117 2004-05-10 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : httpd Version : 2.0.49 Release : 1.1 Summary : Apache HTTP Server Description : Apache is a powerful, full-featured, efficient, and freely-available Web server. Apache is also the most popular Web server on the Internet. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest stable release of Apache httpd 2.0, including a security fix for a memory leak in mod_ssl which can be triggered remotely (CVE CAN-2004-0113), and a fix for escaping of error log output (CVE CAN-2003-0020). This update also includes an enhanced version of the mod_cgi module which fixes a long-standing bug in the handling of stderr output during CGI script execution. Please add any feedback from testing to the tracker bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118798 --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri May 07 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.49-1.1 - fix 2.0.48's httpd loading 2.0.49's mod_expires.so * Fri May 07 2004 Joe Orton 2.0.49-1.0 - update to 2.0.49 (thanks to Robert Scheck, #118798) - make "noindex" page valid XHTML 1.1 (Pascal Volk, #122020) - restore /etc/httpd/build/libtool symlink (#113720) - mod_cgi: backport fixes for stderr handling (upstream #22030) - mod_dav: misc improvements - add rgetline NUL-termination fixes (Tsurutani Naoki, upstream #28376) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 25e131342d7ba91193a2060939561457 SRPMS/httpd-2.0.49-1.1.src.rpm c53041217a267836c99f5b17661a91a9 i386/httpd-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm e39588a069962b6a95b1e06401630cbe i386/httpd-devel-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm 450a0cd7d9b9f442583787cbc9faf630 i386/httpd-manual-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm c85fbce55cc6e449d69b0d9053722b4f i386/mod_ssl-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm b7e7f8d0d1340ed944fc0f2bff22cd1d i386/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.49-1.1.i386.rpm 43a453f81e7185da6eab0681a094ea48 x86_64/httpd-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm 6aebe6ef460860e1fa1d40bee8540876 x86_64/httpd-devel-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm a07409a4220d7cb0e25fa17b9f0a5cfb x86_64/httpd-manual-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm d798f8673e1b4eca5ed149fc58d87838 x86_64/mod_ssl-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm fd7947c0fa75feaae33085f33fc548fb x86_64/debug/httpd-debuginfo-2.0.49-1.1.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 10 20:11:50 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:11:50 -0400 Subject: Virgin Yum Says "No Server" After 7 May Install & Yum Update; Why> In-Reply-To: <1084217920.15557.196195609@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1084217920.15557.196195609@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910405101311257bf890@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 10 May 2004 15:38:40 -0400, billg wrote: > > I know this has been beat to death, but running "yum check-update" is > telling me the server isn't there. This is on an FC2 Test3 machine built > on 7 May from ISO's pulled down on 6 May and successfully updated via yum > on 7 may (i.e., freeze day). I did not receive this error on that day > and have made zero changes to yum's configuration, ever, period. Why did > yum work on 7 May but not since? Did the update pull down a bogus list > of servers? > > Here's what I'm seeing: what you are seeing, is a new default yum.conf that has been prepared for default fc2 operation. if you follow the http links for the header.info in a browser its pretty obvious why its not working. And if you compare against the new up2date default urls, its pretty clear this was a delibrate change in preparation for the release version bumping up to fedora-core-2. This is not breakage...this is a delibrate change in the defaults so that things will work for fc2 installations. Testers by definition, get screwed over. This is what we signed up for, to have things break for us, so fc2 installs will break less. Now that devel tree is frozen according to the release schedule, does this really matter? -jef From paul.verstraete at mech.kuleuven.ac.be Mon May 10 20:16:26 2004 From: paul.verstraete at mech.kuleuven.ac.be (paul verstraete) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:16:26 +0200 Subject: getting ACPI suspend to work (on Dell Inspiron) In-Reply-To: <20040509171654.D54DE73D78@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040509171654.D54DE73D78@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409FE31A.4060908@mech.kuleuven.ac.be> On Fr, 2004-05-07 at 18:05, Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 05:11:04PM +0200, Christian Menzel wrote: > > This might be a stupid question, but is it possible to compile the > > kernel with APM enabled and have things working as before in 2.4.x > > kernels? > > Boot with "acpi=off" and try that Yes, that did the trick! When using "acpi=off" apmd is started when booting and everything is working as before, no need to recompile since apm support is build into the kernel. Thank you, Christian -- Christian Menzel For me, it's surely didn't do the trick!! I tried this on an inpsiron 2500. The apmd was started allright. When I issued /usr/bin/apm -s as root the system did seem to go into suspend mode. However, it didn't come out anymore. The system seemed to boot, normally, but the screen never turned on again. Booting from a cdrom, booting into linux, trying to login as root and halt the system, trying the Fn + d combination (to get the screen back on). Nothing! No screen. Anybody having a suggestion how to get out of this? From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Mon May 10 20:23:29 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:23:29 -0500 Subject: Latest yum update...Quake III and UT2004 no workie In-Reply-To: <200405101500.33244.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <200405101500.33244.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <200405101523.29937.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Monday 10 May 2004 15:00, ByteEnable wrote: > I updated to the latest packages shown below. I did not change the kernel. > Now Quake III resests the XServer, and UT2004 just hangs. > > Byte > After reading my own post, I noticed that the Mesa Libs got installed. I just reinstalled the Nvidia driver and everything is back working again. Byte From jurgen at botz.org Mon May 10 20:26:28 2004 From: jurgen at botz.org (Jurgen Botz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:26:28 -0700 Subject: SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. In-Reply-To: <20040510125520.GA22683@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> <20040510122008.GA2325@tykepenguin.com> <20040510125520.GA22683@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <409FE574.8040506@botz.org> Alan Cox wrote: > Arjan when I asked him says its intentional that /dev/sg now only sees devices > not claimed by other drivers (the other drives support SG_IO so you can open > them and do raw stuff thst way) > > Unfortunately the disk fimware tool doesnt know that Neither do cdparanoia or grip. And probably there are other apps that don't know what to do. I'm really pretty flabergasted by Arjan's attitude to this... I'm totally sympathitic to the goal of deprecating the sg driver, but I don't understand how you can just simply change the behvior at this stage in the FC2 cycle and knowingly release FC2 with a bunch of broken apps. I mean this change should have been made at the start of the FC2 test cycle and properly announced so people could fix broken apps, right? And furthermore, while Arjan has now a bunch of times said things like "you don't need sg to burn CDs", etc., this is the first time that I actually heard anywhere that this latest sg behavior is intentional, and exactly what that behavior is, despite the fact that I've been screaming about it being broken, and have filed bugs, etc. I mean WHAT... THE... FQ#$%#@$^#$!????!!!!???? Is that the Fedora community process????????? I could probably fix the broken apps myself and I might even be willing to put in the time to do that, but how can I if no one communicates what's really going on? In case you haven't noticed, I'm a tad pissed off. :j From daryll at daryll.net Mon May 10 20:31:24 2004 From: daryll at daryll.net (Daryll Strauss) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:31:24 -0700 Subject: FC2 test3 install on x86-64 Message-ID: <1084221084.5193.105.camel@ninja2> I have a friend who's doing an install of FC2 test3 on an AMD64 system. He's doing a text mode install and it gets through the questions and starts formatting the disk. At this point it corrupts the screen by displaying garbage and crashes the system. I don't see anything in bugzilla, but this looks very odd. The system has: Gigabyte K8N Pro 2 GB ECC RAM WD IDE 200 GB GeForce FX5300 Any suggestions? Does anyone have an AMD64 system configuration they like and works well? - |Daryll From gstool at earthlink.net Mon May 10 20:39:17 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:39:17 -0500 Subject: Compaq Deskpro sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <409FE875.1020801@earthlink.net> Kenneth Benson wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ByteEnable [mailto:ByteEnable at austin.rr.com] > > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 9:21 PM > > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Subject: Re: Compaq Deskpro sound > > > > > > On Friday 07 May 2004 15:55, Kenneth Benson wrote: > > > I have a Compaq Deskpro (yes I know its old, but it runs > > good so far) EN > > > series. It uses an onboard sound chip which is an Ess-1888. > > The problem is > > > that the es18xx drivers don't see it so I have no sound. Is > > this a known > > > problem or can someone make an suggestions? > > > > > > Compaq Deskpro DPENM-P400 with 256MB ram, 40GB drive and > > up2dated to this > > > morning with kernel 351. > > > > > > > Did the sound work before? Is the sound turned on in BIOS? > > > > Byte > > > > The sound is enabled and it worked in Windoze and it used to work with RH9. > There are a number of sound related posts in this month's archives of this list and quite a number of bugs in bugzilla. Take a look there for symptoms close to yours. Gerry Tool From williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co Mon May 10 20:41:50 2004 From: williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co (William Lovaton) Date: 10 May 2004 15:41:50 -0500 Subject: Installing Oracle 9i on FC2 Test 3 Message-ID: <1084221710.1657.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi there, I was wondering if somebody in the list have installed Oracle 9i (9.2.0.1.0) in FC2. I tried that because we have a web application that connects to an oracle server but the installation process doesnt work properly. I posted a comment about it in this bug (comment #8): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=108076 Right now in my company we are using RedHat 9 (2.4.20-28.9smp) and I want to update to FC2 as soon as possible... but I need to install oracle client libs first. The funny thing is that it worked with Mandrake 10 kernel 2.6.3 without any kind of glitch. Any comments about this?? any help will be greatly appreciated. -William From tony at involution.com Mon May 10 20:36:57 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:36:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Samsung 213t TFT Not Supported By FC3T2 Message-ID: I had to add the settings in manually. I believe the proper values are: Horizontal: 30-81Hz Vertical: 56-75Hz Resolution: 1600x1200 Regards, Tony From tony at involution.com Mon May 10 20:41:10 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:41:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Samsung 213t TFT Not Supported By FC2T3 even Message-ID: FC2T3 even, but that was implied. Tony ---------- Forwarded message ---------- To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com From: Tony Perrie Subject: Samsung 213t TFT Not Supported By FC3T2 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:36:57 -0500 (CDT) I had to add the settings in manually. I believe the proper values are: Horizontal: 30-81Hz Vertical: 56-75Hz Resolution: 1600x1200 Regards, Tony From alexl at stofanet.dk Mon May 10 20:52:46 2004 From: alexl at stofanet.dk (Alex Thomsen Leth) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:52:46 +0200 Subject: dhcp network Message-ID: <1084222366.3368.1.camel@simba.lion> anybody working on the dhcp problem at startup? on boot it writes ok at eth0 but i can connect to the inet, first after an dhclient eth0. From alan at clueserver.org Mon May 10 20:45:45 2004 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Latest yum update...Quake III and UT2004 no workie In-Reply-To: <200405101500.33244.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 2004, ByteEnable wrote: > I updated to the latest packages shown below. I did not change the kernel. > Now Quake III resests the XServer, and UT2004 just hangs. Are you using the comercial nVIDIA or ATI drivers? You might have hit the 4k stack issue. > > Byte > > [Mon May 10 01:14:32 2004] up2date installing packages: > ['kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358', 'kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.131', 'boost-1.31.0-7', > 'boost-devel-1.31.0-7', 'desktop-backgrounds-basic-2.0-20', > 'desktop-backgrounds-extra-2.0-20', 'evolution-1.4.6-2', 'glibc-2.3.3-26', > 'glibc-common-2.3.3-26', 'glibc-devel-2.3.3-26', 'glibc-headers-2.3.3-26', > 'gnome-applets-2.6.0-5', 'gpm-1.20.1-49', 'gpm-devel-1.20.1-49', > 'grub-0.94-5', 'htmlview-3.0.0-4', 'httpd-2.0.49-4', 'initscripts-7.53-1', > 'kdelibs-3.2.2-4', 'kdelibs-devel-3.2.2-4', 'kdepim-3.2.2-2', > 'kdepim-devel-3.2.2-2', 'kdesdk-3.2.2-2', 'kdesdk-devel-3.2.2-2', > 'kdeutils-3.2.2-3', 'kdeutils-devel-3.2.2-3', 'kudzu-1.1.62-1', > 'kudzu-devel-1.1.62-1', 'libgsf-1.9.0-2', 'libgsf-devel-1.9.0-2', > 'libtermcap-2.0.8-38', 'libtermcap-devel-2.0.8-38', 'lvm2-2.00.15-2', > 'metacity-2.8.1-2', 'mkinitrd-3.5.22-1', 'mozilla-1.6-6', > 'mozilla-nspr-1.6-6', 'mozilla-nss-1.6-6', 'ncurses-5.4-5', > 'ncurses-devel-5.4-5', 'nscd-2.3.3-26', 'pan-0.14.2-7', 'policy-1.11.3-3', > 'policycoreutils-1.11-2', 'ppp-2.4.2-2', 'prelink-0.3.2-1', 'python-2.3.3-6', > 'python-devel-2.3.3-6', 'pyxf86config-0.3.18-2', 'qt-3.3.2-2', > 'qt-designer-3.3.2-2', 'qt-devel-3.3.2-2', 'redhat-menus-1.4.1-1', > 'rhythmbox-0.8.3-3', 'samba-3.0.3-5', 'samba-client-3.0.3-5', > 'samba-common-3.0.3-5', 'sane-backends-1.0.13-7', > 'sane-backends-devel-1.0.13-7', 'setuptool-1.15-1', 'strace-4.5.3-1', > 'unixODBC-2.2.8-5', 'up2date-4.3.18-2', 'up2date-gnome-4.3.18-2', > 'xinitrc-3.40-1', 'xorg-x11-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-100dpi-fonts-6.7.0-2', > 'xorg-x11-75dpi-fonts-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.7.0-2', > 'xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-base-fonts-6.7.0-2', > 'xorg-x11-devel-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-font-utils-6.7.0-2', > 'xorg-x11-libs-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-libs-data-6.7.0-2', > 'xorg-x11-tools-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-twm-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-xauth-6.7.0-2', > 'xorg-x11-xdm-6.7.0-2', 'xorg-x11-xfs-6.7.0-2', 'yum-2.0.7-1'] > > > From billy at trigby.com Mon May 10 21:03:51 2004 From: billy at trigby.com (Billy Charlton) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity Message-ID: <24790.66.47.66.178.1084223031.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> I have several TIF image files that were sent to me from a client. I think they were produced with AutoCAD. They are viewable on Windows, and from the GIMP. When I open any Nautilus folder that contains one of these TIF files, Nautilus immediately eats all of my system RAM and keeps growing and growing until I can kill it, which is difficult because the system is swapping like mad. This is reproducible every time I open a folder with these TIFs. No other folders exhibit this problem. I tried opening the files from the command line using Eye of Gnome, and the same behavior ensued -- swapping and eating all my RAM. Could this be related to thumbnail/preview generation? It is a serious showstopper (for me anyway) since it renders the system useless until I can kill Nautilus, every time I even browse to a folder containing these files. This is on FC2 Test 3 + all latest up2dates as of today, on a stock Dell P4 desktop system. I've uploaded a sample TIF image to http://www.trigby.com/sfstreets.tif if anyone wants to try and reproduce on their own systems. Keep a cmdwindow open so you can killall nautilus! Thanks... -Billy From alexl at stofanet.dk Mon May 10 21:14:44 2004 From: alexl at stofanet.dk (Alex Thomsen Leth) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:14:44 +0200 Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity In-Reply-To: <24790.66.47.66.178.1084223031.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> References: <24790.66.47.66.178.1084223031.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> Message-ID: <1084223684.3499.0.camel@simba.lion> its also eats all my ram and swap space. its nasty On man, 2004-05-10 at 14:03 -0700, Billy Charlton wrote: > I have several TIF image files that were sent to me from a client. I > think they were produced with AutoCAD. They are viewable on Windows, and > from the GIMP. > > When I open any Nautilus folder that contains one of these TIF files, > Nautilus immediately eats all of my system RAM and keeps growing and > growing until I can kill it, which is difficult because the system is > swapping like mad. > > This is reproducible every time I open a folder with these TIFs. No other > folders exhibit this problem. > > I tried opening the files from the command line using Eye of Gnome, and > the same behavior ensued -- swapping and eating all my RAM. > > Could this be related to thumbnail/preview generation? > It is a serious showstopper (for me anyway) since it renders the system > useless until I can kill Nautilus, every time I even browse to a folder > containing these files. > > This is on FC2 Test 3 + all latest up2dates as of today, on a stock Dell > P4 desktop system. > > I've uploaded a sample TIF image to > http://www.trigby.com/sfstreets.tif > if anyone wants to try and reproduce on their own systems. Keep a > cmdwindow open so you can killall nautilus! > > Thanks... > -Billy > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From masterra at m-ra.net Mon May 10 21:15:21 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:15:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set In-Reply-To: <409FBD5A.1060804@littlerichard.org> References: <409FA977.1050506@littlerichard.org> <1084207766.12447.0.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> <409FBD5A.1060804@littlerichard.org> Message-ID: Ok, i tested mine with REGPARM not set, and the same problem, it just freezes after uncompressing. Anyone get this working? On Mon, 10 May 2004, Richard wrote: > Bob Chiodini wrote: > > >On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 12:10, Richard wrote: > > > > > >>I just upgraded my custom kernel 2.6.5-1.349 to 2.6.5-1.358. > >>Got kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358, reverse linux-2.6.5-nostack patch, and i > >>used default config file kernel-2.6.5-i686.config with CONFIG_4KSTACKS > >>not set. > >>Build is ok, but the kernel don't boot, hangs on "Uncompressing ..." > >>The default kernel 2.6.5-1.358 works fine. > >>Thx. > >> > >>Richard > >>richard_at_littlerichard.org > >> > >> > > > >Make sure REGPARM is not set > > > >Bob... > > > > > I just rebuild with REGPARM not set, same issue. > > Richard > richard_at_littlerichard.org > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From alan at redhat.com Mon May 10 21:41:09 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:41:09 -0400 Subject: SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. In-Reply-To: <409FE574.8040506@botz.org> References: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> <20040510122008.GA2325@tykepenguin.com> <20040510125520.GA22683@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <409FE574.8040506@botz.org> Message-ID: <20040510214109.GA31022@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 01:26:28PM -0700, Jurgen Botz wrote: > I could probably fix the broken apps myself and I might > even be willing to put in the time to do that, but how can > I if no one communicates what's really going on? > > In case you haven't noticed, I'm a tad pissed off. > Join the club 8). From bit_char_g at gmx.net Mon May 10 21:54:19 2004 From: bit_char_g at gmx.net (bit) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:54:19 +0200 Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity In-Reply-To: <24790.66.47.66.178.1084223031.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> References: <24790.66.47.66.178.1084223031.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> Message-ID: <200405102354.19283.bit_char_g@gmx.net> Am Montag 10 Mai 2004 23:03 schrieb Billy Charlton: [..] > I tried opening the files from the command line using Eye of Gnome, and > the same behavior ensued -- swapping and eating all my RAM. [..] > > This is on FC2 Test 3 + all latest up2dates as of today, on a stock Dell > P4 desktop system. > > I've uploaded a sample TIF image to > http://www.trigby.com/sfstreets.tif > if anyone wants to try and reproduce on their own systems. Keep a > cmdwindow open so you can killall nautilus! Same with me using your provided image. Althoughh there is nothing wrong when entering a folder of AutoCAD generated TIF files that I received from a friend. Therefore it seems to be related to your TIF image files. Unfortunately I don't know anything about the TIF format. Maybe someone else can help. BTW: This is FC1 running 2.6.5-1.327custom kernel. bit > > Thanks... > -Billy From nbc at aikisoft.com Mon May 10 22:56:33 2004 From: nbc at aikisoft.com (Neil B. Cohen) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 18:56:33 -0400 Subject: Xsane Message-ID: <1084229793.4698.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> Hi - here's a dumb question - is xsane anywhere to be found in the graphical menu heirarchy? I just installed a scanner, and I can run xsane from the command line fine - but I don't see it in the start menu. Am I missing it or is it really not there? Thanks, nbc From gillb4 at telusplanet.net Mon May 10 23:24:32 2004 From: gillb4 at telusplanet.net (Bob Gill) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:24:32 -0600 Subject: Xsane In-Reply-To: <1084229793.4698.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> References: <1084229793.4698.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> Message-ID: <1084231472.4427.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> You aren't wrong. Xsane used to be in the graphics menu, but isn't. Like gnome-session-properties it mysteriously disappeared from the menus. On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 16:56, Neil B. Cohen wrote: > Hi - here's a dumb question - is xsane anywhere to be found in the > graphical menu heirarchy? I just installed a scanner, and I can run > xsane from the command line fine - but I don't see it in the start menu. > Am I missing it or is it really not there? > > Thanks, > > nbc > From wrrhdev at riede.org Mon May 10 23:50:55 2004 From: wrrhdev at riede.org (Willem Riede) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:50:55 -0400 Subject: CD-ROM drive stopped working after upgrade In-Reply-To: <200405100911.17980.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> (from ted@trufflesdad.plus.com on Mon, May 10, 2004 at 04:11:17 -0400) References: <409CCBBE.40701@ntlworld.com> <200405081309.35337.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> <409CD50B.6050907@ntlworld.com> <200405100911.17980.ted@trufflesdad.plus.com> Message-ID: <20040510235055.GC1741@serve.riede.org> On 2004.05.10 04:11, Ted wrote: > On Saturday 08 May 2004 13:39, you wrote: > > I already have this entry (kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro > > root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi rhgb nofb). I didn't put it there so I guess > > Anaconda did. But my CD drive is still not working. > > Yes but after LABEL you have hdc=ide-scsi.... Because the 2.6.5-1.nnn kernels do not have the ide-scsi module built, having a hdx=ide-scsi boot parameter effectively renders that device inoperable. Other drivers, such as ide-cd, will refuse to attach to hdx in this case. You need ide-cd to attach to your CD-R[W] for cd writing. > I have to have just ide-scsi.. The only possible reason that this does anything for you is this fragment of /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit : # If they asked for ide-scsi, load it if strstr "$cmdline" ide-scsi ; then modprobe ide-cd >/dev/null 2>&1 modprobe ide-scsi >/dev/null 2>&1 fi It forces ide-cd to load (the attempt to load ide-scsi will fail because it is not there). So for some reason on your system ide-cd doesn't load without this "help". That "help" should not be necessary, and indeed your friends' (and my) experience confirms that... Regards, Willem Riede. From mike_mcewan at hotmail.com Mon May 10 23:53:36 2004 From: mike_mcewan at hotmail.com (Mike McEwan) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:53:36 +0000 Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set Message-ID: Found the problem. It would appear that the '4g4g.patch' has also had some CONFIG_4KSTACKS stuff removed recently. I applied the following and everything is fine once more. Make sure it's applied *after* the '4g4g.patch': --- include/asm-i386/processor.h.orig 2004-05-09 23:50:05.000000000 +0100 +++ include/asm-i386/processor.h 2004-05-10 23:27:37.835866624 +0100 @@ -408,11 +408,11 @@ #define ARCH_MIN_TASKALIGN 16 - +#ifdef CONFIG_4KSTACKS #define STACK_PAGE_COUNT (4096/PAGE_SIZE) - - - +#else +#define STACK_PAGE_COUNT (8192/PAGE_SIZE) /* THREAD_SIZE/PAGE_SIZE */ +#endif struct thread_struct { /* cached TLS descriptors. */ -- Mike. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From gstool at earthlink.net Mon May 10 23:59:21 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 18:59:21 -0500 Subject: Xsane In-Reply-To: <1084231472.4427.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084229793.4698.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> <1084231472.4427.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A01759.6090908@earthlink.net> Bob Gill wrote: > You aren't wrong. Xsane used to be in the graphics menu, but isn't. > Like gnome-session-properties it mysteriously disappeared from the > menus. > > On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 16:56, Neil B. Cohen wrote: > >>Hi - here's a dumb question - is xsane anywhere to be found in the >>graphical menu heirarchy? I just installed a scanner, and I can run >>xsane from the command line fine - but I don't see it in the start menu. >>Am I missing it or is it really not there? >> just reported as bugzilla number 122985 in case you want to add any comments. Gerry Tool From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Tue May 11 00:24:01 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:24:01 -0500 Subject: Latest yum update...Quake III and UT2004 no workie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405101924.01615.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Monday 10 May 2004 15:45, alan wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 2004, ByteEnable wrote: > > I updated to the latest packages shown below. I did not change the > > kernel. Now Quake III resests the XServer, and UT2004 just hangs. > > Are you using the comercial nVIDIA or ATI drivers? You might have hit the > 4k stack issue. > I'm using kernel 327 without 4K Stacks and the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5341-pkg1. I found my problem after reading my own post. The MESA drivers in Xorg confused the NVidia the GL drivers. I just simply reinstalled the GL portion of the NVidia drivers and everything is working again. Byte From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 11 00:34:58 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 20:34:58 -0400 Subject: Latest yum update...Quake III and UT2004 no workie In-Reply-To: <200405101924.01615.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <200405101924.01615.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <604aa791040510173429c3bdbf@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 10 May 2004 19:24:01 -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > I found my problem after reading my own post. The MESA drivers in Xorg > confused the NVidia the GL drivers. I just simply reinstalled the GL portion > of the NVidia drivers and everything is working again. I think you got that backwards... nvidia's installer confuses the two. nvidia's install delibrately overwrites file locations that mesa's gl is using. File locations managed by the rpm database. You use nvidia's installer, and you are working against the distribution package management system. Once you use nvidia's installer... how is rpm suppose to know that xorg's mesa update is overwriting files nvidia placed? -jef"package management isn't just for the birds"spaleta From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue May 11 00:38:05 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 02:38:05 +0200 Subject: [gdth?] can't boot FC2 test kernel on FC1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084235884.1021.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 10/05/2004 ? 16:28, Matt Bernstein a ?crit : > Hi, > > I have a pretty normal dual-athlon box with a load of hard drives running > off an ICP-Vortex GDT8543RZ card. > > I can install shiny 2.6 kernel RPMs, but they won't boot. My hand-built > 2.6.6-rc3 is running just fine (as you can see from the silly IRQ :). > > 00:08.0 SCSI storage controller: ICP Vortex Computersysteme GmbH GDT 8x43RZ > Subsystem: ICP Vortex Computersysteme GmbH GDT 8x43RZ > Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- > Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 64, cache line size 10 > Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 169 > Region 0: Memory at ea100000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16K] > Expansion ROM at [disabled] [size=32K] > Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 > Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) > Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- > > [its ID is 1119:01fd if that helps] > > When trying to boot the kernel RPM, it successfully loads the initrd which > contains all the right drivers, but then after freeing some memory, > nothing happens (at this point I'd hope /sbin/init might run!). > > Has anyone else seen this? I don't know where the problem is, or where to > bugzilla it. > > Another thing I'm doing which might not be entirely regular is that I'm > using external journals for all my volumes (it rather helps ext3 > performance..). > > I'm a little concerned that FC2 might not boot. > > Any light gratefully received.. > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/ you should update mkinitrd ... From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue May 11 00:42:44 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 02:42:44 +0200 Subject: svnserver, needs to be added to services In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084236164.1021.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lun 10/05/2004 ? 17:39, Neal D. Becker a ?crit : > subversion includes /usr/bin/svnserver, but there is no /etc/init.d entry. > Would be nice. > > Subversion use apache. you need to launch apache. /etc/httpd/conf.d/subversion.conf From reg at dwf.com Tue May 11 00:46:11 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 18:46:11 -0600 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory. Message-ID: <200405110046.i4B0kBai009319@orion.dwf.com> I have a machine here that has 4GB of memory. I put Fedora2 Test1 on it, and found that 'free' only shows 2.8GB of memory. I also found that while the 2.4.x kernel told you how much memory it was seeing as it booted, that the 2.6.x kernel doesn't, so I don't have a cross check on 'free'. I rebuilt the 2.6.x kernel, turning the 16GB flag to 4GB, but got essentially the same result (2.8GB) from 'free'. So, whats up? Is Fedora REALLY only seeing (and using) 2.8GB? Is this some sort of weird round off error because of 32 bits? Is there some OTHER program out there that also reports the amount of CPU memory, and that might calm my fears that Fedora isnt/cant see all of my memory? What to do? -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From davej at redhat.com Tue May 11 01:25:10 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 02:25:10 +0100 Subject: [gdth?] can't boot FC2 test kernel on FC1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084238709.11873.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 15:28, Matt Bernstein wrote: > When trying to boot the kernel RPM, it successfully loads the initrd which > contains all the right drivers, but then after freeing some memory, > nothing happens (at this point I'd hope /sbin/init might run!). > > Has anyone else seen this? I don't know where the problem is, or where to > bugzilla it. fc1 glibc is too old for fc2 kernel. you'll need to boot with vdso=0 Dave From tdiehl at rogueind.com Tue May 11 01:54:36 2004 From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: dhcp network In-Reply-To: <1084222366.3368.1.camel@simba.lion> References: <1084222366.3368.1.camel@simba.lion> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 2004, Alex Thomsen Leth wrote: > anybody working on the dhcp problem at startup? > > on boot it writes ok at eth0 but i can connect to the inet, first after > an dhclient eth0. Are you referring to this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=114092 From vibol at khmer.cc Tue May 11 02:13:25 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:13:25 -0700 Subject: Flash + Mozilla and black 1px border? Message-ID: <40A036C5.1010001@khmer.cc> Has anyone noticed that all Flash animations (using MM Flash) under Mozilla has small 1px black border around them? Go to Macromedia.com and you'll (hopefully) see what I'm talking about in their header area. Other sites with Flash animation exhibit the same thing. Is there a setting somewhere to remove this black border (appears on top and left sides for me). I haven't tried this on another browser yet, but I think I will soon. -Vibol From netdemonz at yahoo.com Tue May 11 02:22:51 2004 From: netdemonz at yahoo.com (Brian Bober) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory. In-Reply-To: <200405110046.i4B0kBai009319@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <20040511022251.65531.qmail@web90103.mail.scd.yahoo.com> What does "top" show? --- reg at dwf.com wrote: > I have a machine here that has 4GB of memory. > > I put Fedora2 Test1 on it, and found that 'free' only shows > 2.8GB of memory. > > I also found that while the 2.4.x kernel told you how much > memory it was seeing as it booted, that the 2.6.x kernel > doesn't, so I don't have a cross check on 'free'. > > I rebuilt the 2.6.x kernel, turning the 16GB flag to 4GB, > but got essentially the same result (2.8GB) from 'free'. > > So, whats up? > Is Fedora REALLY only seeing (and using) 2.8GB? > Is this some sort of weird round off error because of 32 bits? > Is there some OTHER program out there that also reports the amount > of CPU memory, and that might calm my fears that Fedora isnt/cant > see all of my memory? > > What to do? > > > -- > Reg.Clemens > reg at dwf.com > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From bikehead at amberpoint.com Tue May 11 02:31:56 2004 From: bikehead at amberpoint.com (Brian Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:31:56 -0700 Subject: Xsane In-Reply-To: <40A01759.6090908@earthlink.net> References: <1084229793.4698.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> <1084231472.4427.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A01759.6090908@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40A03B1C.3050506@amberpoint.com> Perhaps because you can access it from the Gimp. I asked this same question in bugzilla and the removal is deliberate... Gerry Tool wrote: > Bob Gill wrote: > >> You aren't wrong. Xsane used to be in the graphics menu, but isn't. >> Like gnome-session-properties it mysteriously disappeared from the >> menus. >> >> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 16:56, Neil B. Cohen wrote: >> >>> Hi - here's a dumb question - is xsane anywhere to be found in the >>> graphical menu heirarchy? I just installed a scanner, and I can run >>> xsane from the command line fine - but I don't see it in the start >>> menu. >>> Am I missing it or is it really not there? >>> > > just reported as bugzilla number 122985 in case you want to add any > comments. > > Gerry Tool > > From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Tue May 11 02:33:26 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:33:26 -0500 Subject: Latest yum update...Quake III and UT2004 no workie In-Reply-To: <604aa791040510173429c3bdbf@mail.gmail.com> References: <200405101924.01615.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <604aa791040510173429c3bdbf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200405102133.26782.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Monday 10 May 2004 19:34, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 2004 19:24:01 -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > > I found my problem after reading my own post. The MESA drivers in Xorg > > confused the NVidia the GL drivers. I just simply reinstalled the GL > > portion of the NVidia drivers and everything is working again. > > I think you got that backwards... nvidia's installer confuses the two. > nvidia's install delibrately overwrites file locations that mesa's gl is > using. File locations managed by the rpm database. You use nvidia's > installer, and you are working against the distribution package > management system. Once you use nvidia's installer... how is rpm > suppose to know that xorg's mesa update is overwriting files nvidia > placed? Nope....The update trashed my NVidia OpenGL install. Byte From wtogami at redhat.com Tue May 11 02:37:12 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:37:12 -1000 Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity In-Reply-To: <24790.66.47.66.178.1084223031.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> References: <24790.66.47.66.178.1084223031.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> Message-ID: <40A03C58.70901@redhat.com> Billy Charlton wrote: > I have several TIF image files that were sent to me from a client. I > think they were produced with AutoCAD. They are viewable on Windows, and > from the GIMP. > > When I open any Nautilus folder that contains one of these TIF files, > Nautilus immediately eats all of my system RAM and keeps growing and > growing until I can kill it, which is difficult because the system is > swapping like mad. > > This is reproducible every time I open a folder with these TIFs. No other > folders exhibit this problem. > > I tried opening the files from the command line using Eye of Gnome, and > the same behavior ensued -- swapping and eating all my RAM. > > Could this be related to thumbnail/preview generation? > It is a serious showstopper (for me anyway) since it renders the system > useless until I can kill Nautilus, every time I even browse to a folder > containing these files. > > This is on FC2 Test 3 + all latest up2dates as of today, on a stock Dell > P4 desktop system. > > I've uploaded a sample TIF image to > http://www.trigby.com/sfstreets.tif > if anyone wants to try and reproduce on their own systems. Keep a > cmdwindow open so you can killall nautilus! Tested various programs with your file. PROGRAM Memory eog 650MB nautilus 666MB (briefly) 55MB (after thumbnail was complete) gqview 648MB gimp 115MB openoffice 249MB quickshow 1115MB (at first) 495MB (after fully loaded and displayed) Slowest app of all, and fails to close without kill -9. It wasn't really slow for me, but my laptop has 1GB RAM. I am guessing that some common library used by most of these programs is really inefficient with this file. It would help if someone could isolate exactly which component it is. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From lowen at pari.edu Tue May 11 03:05:27 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:05:27 -0400 Subject: centrino wifi support In-Reply-To: <20040504073310.GA24627@fw.coote.org> References: <20040504073310.GA24627@fw.coote.org> Message-ID: <200405102305.27550.lowen@pari.edu> On Tuesday 04 May 2004 03:33, tim+redhat.com at coote.org wrote: > >That might explain why I can't get ndiswrapper to work at all. What is the > >incompatibility and what needs to be done to fix it? Looks like I'll need > > to reinstall core 1. > last point on the ndiswrapper faq is to disable 4kstacks. Although there's > a response in this thread that the linuxant driver works with centrino > wifi, I got a response in the ndiswrapper forum that it can't be done for > this driver. Clearly one of the data points is wrong. Third data point: Linuxant driverloader 1.68 (latest) on Dell Inspiron 600m (Intel P/W2100B) using the distributed driver: driverloader: module license 'see LICENSE file; Copyright (c)2003-2004 Linuxant inc.' taints kernel. driverloader: module license 'see LICENSE file; Copyright (c)2003-2004 Linuxant inc.' taints kernel. driverloader: driver "w70n51" requires minimum kernel stack of 8K, only 4K available driverloader: probe of 0000:02:03.0 failed with error -12 lspci output: 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04) Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 2565 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 Memory at fafef000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From fedora at towergrove.com Tue May 11 03:05:44 2004 From: fedora at towergrove.com (David B) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:05:44 -0500 Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity In-Reply-To: <24790.66.47.66.178.1084223031.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> References: <24790.66.47.66.178.1084223031.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> Message-ID: <20040511030544.GA20739@barmann.net> > Could this be related to thumbnail/preview generation? The images size (not file size) is huge: mustang:~/downloads> identify sfstreets.tif sfstreets.tif TIFF 11248x14484+0+0 PseudoClass 2c 8-bit 209.4kb 1.570u 0:02 That's like 164 times the area (in square pixels) of my monitor! I have no idea how to make those programs more efficient. Can you make do with a scaled down image? I scaled it down to 20% in the gimp and it is very readable at 2250x2897. I guess it depends on your application as to whether this is acceptable. With the scaled down image, things open up just fine and use a lot less memory. -David From fedora at andrewfarris.com Tue May 11 03:23:40 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 20:23:40 -0700 Subject: Latest yum update...Quake III and UT2004 no workie In-Reply-To: <200405102133.26782.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <200405101924.01615.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <604aa791040510173429c3bdbf@mail.gmail.com> <200405102133.26782.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084245820.25223.6.camel@CirithUngol> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 21:33 -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > On Monday 10 May 2004 19:34, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Mon, 10 May 2004 19:24:01 -0500, ByteEnable > wrote: > > > I found my problem after reading my own post. The MESA drivers in Xorg > > > confused the NVidia the GL drivers. I just simply reinstalled the GL > > > portion of the NVidia drivers and everything is working again. > > > > I think you got that backwards... nvidia's installer confuses the two. > > nvidia's install delibrately overwrites file locations that mesa's gl is > > using. File locations managed by the rpm database. You use nvidia's > > installer, and you are working against the distribution package > > management system. Once you use nvidia's installer... how is rpm > > suppose to know that xorg's mesa update is overwriting files nvidia > > placed? > > Nope....The update trashed my NVidia OpenGL install. > > Byte Think you still missed the point, the update didn't trash your nVIDIA install.. it 'corrected' your Mesa install (that nVIDIA had trashed). In the future, use livna.org's packaged nVIDIA driver which relocates the libraries in a sane location.. and stops blasting the Mesa libraries to hell.. then this shouldn't be a problem anymore. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From rodney.mckee at eds.com Tue May 11 03:36:14 2004 From: rodney.mckee at eds.com (Rodney McKee) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:36:14 +1000 Subject: Laptop console switching Message-ID: <1084246574.2716.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> Installed latest FC2T3, still unable to switch between external/internal console. Running on a Thinkpad R31. Has anyone else got this issue on laptops? Is this related to the move to xorg? Have experienced this with FC2T2 but now have a clean install and same issue. Rgds Rodney McKee From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 11 03:38:06 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:38:06 -0500 Subject: Xsane In-Reply-To: <40A03B1C.3050506@amberpoint.com> References: <1084229793.4698.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> <1084231472.4427.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A01759.6090908@earthlink.net> <40A03B1C.3050506@amberpoint.com> Message-ID: <40A04A9E.9020405@earthlink.net> Brian Anderson wrote: > Perhaps because you can access it from the Gimp. I asked this same > question in bugzilla and the removal is deliberate... That's not a very sensible reason. The Xsane interface itself is useful without Gimp. For example, it can be used in the "Copy" mode to send a scanned document directly to the default system printer without the overhead of opening Gimp. I just added a note to the bugzilla report 122985 to that effect. Gerry Tool > > Gerry Tool wrote: > >> Bob Gill wrote: >> >>> You aren't wrong. Xsane used to be in the graphics menu, but isn't. >>> Like gnome-session-properties it mysteriously disappeared from the >>> menus. >>> >>> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 16:56, Neil B. Cohen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi - here's a dumb question - is xsane anywhere to be found in the >>>> graphical menu heirarchy? I just installed a scanner, and I can run >>>> xsane from the command line fine - but I don't see it in the start >>>> menu. >>>> Am I missing it or is it really not there? >>>> >> >> just reported as bugzilla number 122985 in case you want to add any >> comments. >> >> Gerry Tool >> >> > > From asantini at movinet.com.uy Tue May 11 04:07:48 2004 From: asantini at movinet.com.uy (aldo santini) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 01:07:48 -0300 Subject: Driver Nvidia and kernel 2.6.5-1.358 on FC2 T1 Message-ID: <200405110107.48615.asantini@movinet.com.uy> After upgrading my kernel from version 2.6.3-1.116 to 2.6.5-1.358 and recompiled the nvidia driver, X crash when i run startx. Is this a known bug? is there any way to solve it? tnahks From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 11 03:43:32 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:43:32 -0400 Subject: Xsane In-Reply-To: <40A03B1C.3050506@amberpoint.com> References: <1084229793.4698.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> <1084231472.4427.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A01759.6090908@earthlink.net> <40A03B1C.3050506@amberpoint.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910405102043913f01@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 10 May 2004 19:31:56 -0700, Brian Anderson wrote: > > Perhaps because you can access it from the Gimp. I asked this same > question in bugzilla and the removal is deliberate... Be so kind as to reference the actually bugzilla ticket when you make a reference like that. As much as i love diving in to bugzilla....citing a ticket number saves people a crapload of time searching for the ticket you are talking about. So...whats that ticket number? -jef From maxer1 at xmission.com Tue May 11 04:28:17 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:28:17 -0600 Subject: SATA failure hands down on P4P800SE no work around Message-ID: <000001c43710$61dc79e0$0200000a@frank> Simply put don't buy the P4P800SE mobo if your drives are SATA only. Detection is totally non existent in any form. I haven't seen anyone post work arounds for a driver disk, which really isn't possible here, since FC2 T3 hangs system during initrd load. Bummer. RaXeT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Tue May 11 04:38:06 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:38:06 -0500 Subject: Can't access Redhat Network, get following error message Message-ID: <40A058AE.2030609@sbcglobal.net> There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: An HTTP error occurred: URL: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info Status Code: 404 Error Message: Not Found Network down? What gives?? Jim Tate From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Tue May 11 04:43:48 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:43:48 -0500 Subject: Driver Nvidia and kernel 2.6.5-1.358 on FC2 T1 In-Reply-To: <200405110107.48615.asantini@movinet.com.uy> References: <200405110107.48615.asantini@movinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <40A05A04.6000501@sbcglobal.net> aldo santini wrote: >After upgrading my kernel from version 2.6.3-1.116 to 2.6.5-1.358 and >recompiled the nvidia driver, X crash when i run startx. >Is this a known bug? >is there any way to solve it? >tnahks > > > > I sure wished this NVIDIA bug could get solved, I want to upgrade my Laptop Dell Inspiron 8600 / Nvidia Geforce2Go 5200. Has Nvidia at there Website come out with a driver for the 2.6 kernel ? Jim Tate From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Tue May 11 04:46:04 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:46:04 +0800 Subject: Can't access Redhat Network, get following error message In-Reply-To: <40A058AE.2030609@sbcglobal.net> References: <40A058AE.2030609@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1084250764.6083.3.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:38, jim tate wrote: > There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: > > An HTTP error occurred: > URL: > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info > Status Code: 404 > Error Message: Not Found > > > Network down? What gives?? > > Jim Tate Fedora's up2date does *NOT* access the Red Hat Network servers, and there is no network "problem". What you are seeing is the fact that your current yum is configured for a non-existent distribution (fedora-core-2) Which if the schedule holds should be available just about a week from now, give or take. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Tue May 11 04:48:45 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:48:45 +0800 Subject: Driver Nvidia and kernel 2.6.5-1.358 on FC2 T1 In-Reply-To: <40A05A04.6000501@sbcglobal.net> References: <200405110107.48615.asantini@movinet.com.uy> <40A05A04.6000501@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1084250925.6083.7.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:43, jim tate wrote: > I sure wished this NVIDIA bug could get solved, I want to upgrade my Laptop > Dell Inspiron 8600 / Nvidia Geforce2Go 5200. > Has Nvidia at there Website come out with a driver for the 2.6 kernel ? > > Jim Tate 2.6 ... Sure, no problem. 2.6.6 ... Nope, not yet. -- Chris Kloiber From cdrobsonjr at netscape.net Tue May 11 04:52:56 2004 From: cdrobsonjr at netscape.net (Doug Robson) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:52:56 -0400 Subject: Driver Nvidia and kernel 2.6.5-1.358 on FC2 T1 Message-ID: <33D747F2.1A2C77F4.0E82DF66@netscape.net> AFAIK there is not going to be a way to solve it until nVidia decides to accommodate the 2.6 kernels newfangled design to limit the stack size to 4K and give us a new driver. See: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28255 aldo santini wrote: >After upgrading my kernel from version 2.6.3-1.116 to 2.6.5-1.358 and >recompiled the nvidia driver, X crash when i run startx. >Is this a known bug? >is there any way to solve it? >tnahks > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From wtogami at redhat.com Tue May 11 04:56:45 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 18:56:45 -1000 Subject: Laptop console switching In-Reply-To: <1084246574.2716.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084246574.2716.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A05D0D.6070501@redhat.com> Rodney McKee wrote: > Installed latest FC2T3, still unable to switch between external/internal > console. I am assuming you mean switching between the laptop's LCD screen and external VGA monitor. > Running on a Thinkpad R31. > Has anyone else got this issue on laptops? > Is this related to the move to xorg? Highly unlikely. The video drivers of XFree86 and xorg last I heard (a few months ago) have nothing to do with laptop switching of video displays. It is controlled entirely by the BIOS, and it is quite common for switching to either fail completely or cause crashes. Some drivers like ATI mach64 have purposefully disabled VGA switching in order to prevent stability problems. Part of the problem here is that our great xorg leader mharris lacks any laptops. Please convince hardware manufacturers to send mharris free laptops along with BIOS and hardware specifications, and maybe he would have the chance to actually debug this kind of thing one day. Unfortunately, even having actual hardware would not make this problem go away quickly. It would need to be individually tested and debugged for nearly every arbitrary combination of BIOS and video card. To make matters worse most laptop sellers are pressured to ship far too early. They test only "does it work with Windows XP?" then ship, despite their product not quite complying with ACPI specifications. Due to these problems it would take a combination of a lot more dedicated (and most likely paid) engineering, and unprecedented hardware manufacturer cooperation, to make this a supported and stable capability for Linux laptops. Granted things are not totally grim. Our community software is always rapidly improving. For example, my Thinkpad T41 did not work very well when I first got it around FC2 Test1. But since then, the radeon driver with DRI works properly, suspend-to-RAM works, the airo wireless network works, and a dozen other aspects of its operation has improved. This is due to a combination of fast bug fixing in the upstream 2.6.x kernel and new capabilities made possible by xorg. Ultimately what it will take to make all hardware this well supported by Linux is to give hardware manufacturers economic incentive to do so. This has already happened in a big way for the server market with big players like IBM, HP, and Dell selling Linux servers and workstations. As Linux desktop software continues to improve at a rapid pace, we will make hardware manufacturers and vendors take notice of our ever growing market penetration. Warren From thisismyspamdump at rogers.com Tue May 11 05:11:01 2004 From: thisismyspamdump at rogers.com (Joe Reid) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 01:11:01 -0400 Subject: Flash + Mozilla and black 1px border? In-Reply-To: <40A036C5.1010001@khmer.cc> References: <40A036C5.1010001@khmer.cc> Message-ID: <1084252260.2978.9.camel@bean> I'm seeing the same thing, using FireFox. So I'm assuming that this would be a plugin issue or something in the Mozilla/Gecko engine maybe? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040404 Firefox/0.8 File name: libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 6.0 r81 Joe On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 22:13, Vibol Hou wrote: > Has anyone noticed that all Flash animations (using MM Flash) under > Mozilla has small 1px black border around them? Go to Macromedia.com > and you'll (hopefully) see what I'm talking about in their header area. > Other sites with Flash animation exhibit the same thing. Is there a > setting somewhere to remove this black border (appears on top and left > sides for me). > > I haven't tried this on another browser yet, but I think I will soon. > > -Vibol > From maxer1 at xmission.com Tue May 11 05:42:35 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:42:35 -0600 Subject: Whoa on FC2 T3 install on P4P800SE Message-ID: <000501c4371a$c368a8f0$0200000a@frank> I was using the same install CD's from FC2 T3 and couldn't get past uncompressing. Well I loaded 9.0.94 and that worked, loaded the piix driver Etc.. I'm thinking that my FC2 T3 that I used a few weeks back must be hosed. Maybe media problem? Will keep you posted. RaXeT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reg at dwf.com Tue May 11 05:49:17 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:49:17 -0600 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory. In-Reply-To: Message from Brian Bober of "Mon, 10 May 2004 19:22:51 PDT." <20040511022251.65531.qmail@web90103.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200405110549.i4B5nHh1012255@orion.dwf.com> > What does "top" show? > > --- reg at dwf.com wrote: > > I have a machine here that has 4GB of memory. > > > > I put Fedora2 Test1 on it, and found that 'free' only shows > > 2.8GB of memory. > > > > I also found that while the 2.4.x kernel told you how much > > memory it was seeing as it booted, that the 2.6.x kernel > > doesn't, so I don't have a cross check on 'free'. > > > > I rebuilt the 2.6.x kernel, turning the 16GB flag to 4GB, > > but got essentially the same result (2.8GB) from 'free'. > > > > So, whats up? > > Is Fedora REALLY only seeing (and using) 2.8GB? > > Is this some sort of weird round off error because of 32 bits? > > Is there some OTHER program out there that also reports the amount > > of CPU memory, and that might calm my fears that Fedora isnt/cant > > see all of my memory? > > > > What to do? > > > > I cant try 'top' on the target machine till tomorrow, but it sure acts strange on my machine here at home when I test it right now. While running interactively, all the interesting fields at the top (like Mem) are BLANK. Stopping it, still blank. BUT, if I use the mouse to copy the top of the 'top' display somewhere else, (like this message), then the fields are filled in with what appear to be correct values. STRANGE. Ive NEVER seen anything like that before. But will try it on the target machine tomorrow. Any other thoughts? -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au Tue May 11 06:06:46 2004 From: david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au (david walcroft) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:06:46 +1000 Subject: Alsa and kcontrol Message-ID: <40A06D76.405@yahoo.com.au> Hi,I'm having trouble getting sound from Kde apps,in control centre I can generate sound related to apps but using the apps have no sound. this is part of stdout from running kcontrol from kterminal. server status: busy real-time status: real-time server buffer time: 46.4399 ms buffer size multiplier: 1 minimum stream buffer time: 46.4399 ms auto suspend time: 60 s audio method: alsa sampling rate: 44100 channels: 2 sample size: 16 bits duplex: full device: default fragments: 2 fragment size: 4096 ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1057:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c failed: Device or resource busy ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:494:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: Broken pipe Thanks for any help david From antitux at antitux.net Tue May 11 06:11:14 2004 From: antitux at antitux.net (John Dee) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:11:14 -0700 Subject: Alsa and kcontrol In-Reply-To: <40A06D76.405@yahoo.com.au> References: <40A06D76.405@yahoo.com.au> Message-ID: <40A06E82.7080005@antitux.net> david walcroft wrote: > Hi,I'm having trouble getting sound from Kde apps,in control centre I can > generate sound related to apps but using the apps have no sound. this is > part of stdout from running kcontrol from kterminal. > > server status: busy > real-time status: real-time > server buffer time: 46.4399 ms > buffer size multiplier: 1 > minimum stream buffer time: 46.4399 ms > auto suspend time: 60 s > audio method: alsa > sampling rate: 44100 > channels: 2 > sample size: 16 bits > duplex: full > device: default > fragments: 2 > fragment size: 4096 > ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1057:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c failed: > Device or resource busy > > ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:494:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: > Broken pipe > > Thanks for any help david > > chmod -R 777 /dev/snd/* -- Live life at 140bpm From david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au Tue May 11 06:48:33 2004 From: david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au (david walcroft) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:48:33 +1000 Subject: Alsa and kcontrol In-Reply-To: <40A06E82.7080005@antitux.net> References: <40A06D76.405@yahoo.com.au> <40A06E82.7080005@antitux.net> Message-ID: <40A07741.3050205@yahoo.com.au> John Dee wrote: > david walcroft wrote: > >> Hi,I'm having trouble getting sound from Kde apps,in control centre I can >> generate sound related to apps but using the apps have no sound. this is >> part of stdout from running kcontrol from kterminal. >> >> server status: busy >> real-time status: real-time >> server buffer time: 46.4399 ms >> buffer size multiplier: 1 >> minimum stream buffer time: 46.4399 ms >> auto suspend time: 60 s >> audio method: alsa >> sampling rate: 44100 >> channels: 2 >> sample size: 16 bits >> duplex: full >> device: default >> fragments: 2 >> fragment size: 4096 >> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1057:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c >> failed: Device or resource busy >> >> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:494:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: >> Broken pipe >> >> Thanks for any help david >> >> > chmod -R 777 /dev/snd/* > > Sorry John it did'nt work,it seems artswrapper cannot run because of the broken pipe. david From antitux at antitux.net Tue May 11 06:51:59 2004 From: antitux at antitux.net (John Dee) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:51:59 -0700 Subject: Alsa and kcontrol In-Reply-To: <40A07741.3050205@yahoo.com.au> References: <40A06D76.405@yahoo.com.au> <40A06E82.7080005@antitux.net> <40A07741.3050205@yahoo.com.au> Message-ID: <40A0780F.5060309@antitux.net> david walcroft wrote: > John Dee wrote: > >> david walcroft wrote: >> >>> Hi,I'm having trouble getting sound from Kde apps,in control centre I >>> can >>> generate sound related to apps but using the apps have no sound. this is >>> part of stdout from running kcontrol from kterminal. >>> >>> server status: busy >>> real-time status: real-time >>> server buffer time: 46.4399 ms >>> buffer size multiplier: 1 >>> minimum stream buffer time: 46.4399 ms >>> auto suspend time: 60 s >>> audio method: alsa >>> sampling rate: 44100 >>> channels: 2 >>> sample size: 16 bits >>> duplex: full >>> device: default >>> fragments: 2 >>> fragment size: 4096 >>> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1057:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c >>> failed: Device or resource busy >>> >>> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:494:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START >>> failed: Broken pipe >>> >>> Thanks for any help david >>> >>> >> chmod -R 777 /dev/snd/* >> >> > Sorry John it did'nt work,it seems artswrapper cannot run because of the > broken pipe. > > david > > Hmm.. I'm probably not gonna be a lot of help. I don't use kde, or any sound daemons. -- Live life at 140bpm From alan at redhat.com Tue May 11 07:00:06 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 03:00:06 -0400 Subject: [gdth?] can't boot FC2 test kernel on FC1 In-Reply-To: <1084238709.11873.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <1084238709.11873.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <20040511070006.GA1493@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 02:25:10AM +0100, Dave Jones wrote: > > Has anyone else seen this? I don't know where the problem is, or where to > > bugzilla it. > > fc1 glibc is too old for fc2 kernel. you'll need to boot with vdso=0 What does this imply for static glibc 2.2.x/2.1.x linked programs and for compat-libc5 ? From alan at redhat.com Tue May 11 07:01:49 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 03:01:49 -0400 Subject: Latest yum update...Quake III and UT2004 no workie In-Reply-To: <200405102133.26782.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <200405101924.01615.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <604aa791040510173429c3bdbf@mail.gmail.com> <200405102133.26782.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040511070149.GB1493@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 09:33:26PM -0500, ByteEnable wrote: > > I think you got that backwards... nvidia's installer confuses the two. > > nvidia's install delibrately overwrites file locations that mesa's gl is > > using. File locations managed by the rpm database. You use nvidia's > > installer, and you are working against the distribution package > > management system. Once you use nvidia's installer... how is rpm > > suppose to know that xorg's mesa update is overwriting files nvidia > > placed? > > Nope....The update trashed my NVidia OpenGL install. It would - Nvidia wrote over the opengl libraries without using the package management, so each time Mesa is updated it'll remove the Nvidia libraries because the Nvidia installer didnt bother to tell it that it had replaced them From francis.souyri at apec.fr Tue May 11 07:03:01 2004 From: francis.souyri at apec.fr (Francis SOUYRI) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:03:01 +0200 Subject: SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. In-Reply-To: <20040510214109.GA31022@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> <20040510122008.GA2325@tykepenguin.com> <20 040510125520.GA22683@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <409FE574.8040506@botz.org> <20040510214109.GA31022@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A07AA5.3070209@apec.fr> Hello, Alan Cox wrote: >On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 01:26:28PM -0700, Jurgen Botz wrote: > > >>I could probably fix the broken apps myself and I might >>even be willing to put in the time to do that, but how can >>I if no one communicates what's really going on? >> >>In case you haven't noticed, I'm a tad pissed off. >> >> >> > >Join the club 8). > > > > Do you know if this feature will be included in the stock kernel ? If I understand actually the "mtx", "cdrecord", "cdparanoia"... programs need to be patched (SG_IO) specifically for the FC2 ! Best regards. Francis From alan at redhat.com Tue May 11 07:04:42 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 03:04:42 -0400 Subject: SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. In-Reply-To: <40A07AA5.3070209@apec.fr> References: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> <20040510122008.GA2325@tykepenguin.com> <20040510125520.GA22683@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <409FE574.8040506@botz.org> <20040510214109.GA31022@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A07AA5.3070209@apec.fr> Message-ID: <20040511070442.GC1493@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 09:03:01AM +0200, Francis SOUYRI wrote: > Do you know if this feature will be included in the stock kernel ? > > If I understand actually the "mtx", "cdrecord", "cdparanoia"... programs > need to be patched (SG_IO) specifically for the FC2 ! I asked Linus. His answer was a definitive "no". Alan From al at casa.org.ro Tue May 11 07:10:22 2004 From: al at casa.org.ro (Alin Osan) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:10:22 +0300 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory. In-Reply-To: <200405110046.i4B0kBai009319@orion.dwf.com> References: <200405110046.i4B0kBai009319@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <200405111010.23130.al@casa.org.ro> On Tuesday 11 May 2004 03:46, reg at dwf.com wrote: > I have a machine here that has 4GB of memory. > > I put Fedora2 Test1 on it, and found that 'free' only shows > 2.8GB of memory. Check the kernel directly with cat /proc/meminfo -- -- We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Alin Osan From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Tue May 11 07:23:43 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:23:43 +0200 Subject: How to install Mysql $.x on FC2t3 Message-ID: <40A07F7F.3000604@filmakademie.de> Hi, has anybody installed Mysql 4.x on FC2T3? If so, any hints on how to do this?? Thanks & regards G?tz Reinicke -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From reg at dwf.com Tue May 11 07:32:45 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 01:32:45 -0600 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 2004 10:10:22 +0300." <200405111010.23130.al@casa.org.ro> Message-ID: <200405110732.i4B7WjtH013576@orion.dwf.com> > On Tuesday 11 May 2004 03:46, reg at dwf.com wrote: > > I have a machine here that has 4GB of memory. > > > > I put Fedora2 Test1 on it, and found that 'free' only shows > > 2.8GB of memory. > > Check the kernel directly with cat /proc/meminfo > Thank you. I should have thought of that, but, well Mumph.... Thanks again. Ill check that when I go in by the office in the AM. -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue May 11 07:38:53 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:38:53 +0200 Subject: what does this 'cdrom: open failed' message mean In-Reply-To: <20040510192002.GA2515@home.nl> References: <20040510110313.GB2756@home.nl> <1084212307.5226.1.camel@littlePiet> <20040510192002.GA2515@home.nl> Message-ID: <1084261132.5229.1.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Alexander Volovics um 21:20: > OK, I just now rebooted with a cd in the drive and the message > disappears. But why should I get the message in the first place. > > I have never seen it before. I don't know. Maybe you updated the software and the developer decided to add some messages to syslog. Peter From stlecho at yahoo.com Tue May 11 07:49:13 2004 From: stlecho at yahoo.com (Stefan Lecho) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [FC2T3] Monitor resolution Message-ID: <20040511074913.1111.qmail@web60007.mail.yahoo.com> I would like to change my monitors resolution with the aid of the Display configuration in FC2T3. When selecting the appropriate display type, the supported resolutions are displayed correctly. When I choose 1024x786 as the default resolution and confirm the selection, the xorg.conf file is changed. When I re-open the Display configuration the supported resolution is reduced to 600x480. The 1024x786 resolution is not shown in the list. Re-selecting the same display type, re-displays all the supported resolutions. Apparantly FC2T3 does not remember the selection of 1024x786 as my default resolution and is not capable of displaying the supported resolutions for the selected display type. Can anyone give me an advise on how to solve this issue ? Monitor: Philips Brilliance 17A Graphics Card: NVidia GeForce FX5200 Regards, Stefan Lecho. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From cschlaefcke at wms-network.de Tue May 11 07:54:44 2004 From: cschlaefcke at wms-network.de (Christian Schlaefcke) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:54:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?What=B4s_wrong_with_USB=2E=2E=2E?= In-Reply-To: <409FB97D.20506@aesgi.com> References: <409D6A24.6050808@botz.org><409F232F.9050505@botz.org> <1084172679.4925.11.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <409F9A2A.8070008@botz.org> <20040510150846.GA13325@devserv.devel.redhat.com><409F9DED.6070907@botz.org> <409FB97D.20506@aesgi.com> Message-ID: <40042.193.111.40.193.1084262084.squirrel@www.wms-network.de> ...in kernels with version > 2.6.2? As I posted a few days before, I have problems getting my cyberjack card reader back to work since I upgraded my second mchine from RH9 to FC2 Test3. I also posted this issue to the manufactorer which replied instantly. They pointed out that the drivers for the card reader refuse to work since kernel 2.6.2. After that there must have been bigger changes on the kernel?s USB subsystem. So what?s the matter? Do I have to wait for another kernel release? Or is this a driver problem? Is there anything I can do (patch or something)? Thanks & Regards! Christian From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue May 11 08:02:34 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:02:34 +0200 Subject: NVIDIA again - X server doesn't start [x86_64] Message-ID: <1084262553.5229.26.camel@littlePiet> I still have trouble to use the proprietary nvidia driver with test 3 for AMD 64. I downloaded the driver from www.minion.de /which fixes a problem with compilier the kernel modules) and could install it successfully. According to xorg.0.log the driver is loaded. xorg.0.log says: (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.0 .... (II) NVIDIA XFree86 Driver 1.0-5332 Fri Jan 9 12:43:30 PST 2004 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all MVIDIA GPUs (II) Primary Device is: PCI 02:00:0 .... (--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xD4000000 (--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xDC000000 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (II) UnloadModuel: "vgahw" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration I suppose the screen message is a follow up. There is nothing wrong with my xorg.conf. I followed the FAQ on the nvidia site but couldn't find a solution. Did anyone succeed to use the NVIDIA driver with test 3 on an AMD64? Thanks Peter From francis.souyri at apec.fr Tue May 11 08:06:53 2004 From: francis.souyri at apec.fr (Francis SOUYRI) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:06:53 +0200 Subject: SCSI sg driver does not see the devices. In-Reply-To: <20040511070442.GC1493@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <409F6712.4@apec.fr> <20040510122008.GA2325@tykepenguin.com> <20 040510125520.GA22683@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <409FE574.8040506@botz.org> <20040510214109.GA31022@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A07AA5.3070209@apec.fr > <20040511070442.GC1493@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A0899D.6060502@apec.fr> Thank Alan, Alan Cox wrote: >On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 09:03:01AM +0200, Francis SOUYRI wrote: > > >>Do you know if this feature will be included in the stock kernel ? >> >>If I understand actually the "mtx", "cdrecord", "cdparanoia"... programs >>need to be patched (SG_IO) specifically for the FC2 ! >> >> > >I asked Linus. His answer was a definitive "no". > >Alan > > > > If the stock kernel will never include this feature, the use of "specific" programs (with specific code) for the FC2 kernel is not a good idea. If I write a program, I use #if solaris, #if aix, #if linux... and my program, from one source can compile/run on different Unix, now I need to code #if fc2, #if fc(X), #if suze, #if mandrake, #if mypersodistrib... if I want my program to run on different Linux distributions, because they use different "mods" kernel. It needs to have only "one" Linux kernel... Best regards. Francis From pza at pza.net.au Tue May 11 08:16:57 2004 From: pza at pza.net.au (Phil Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 18:16:57 +1000 Subject: [FC2T3] Monitor resolution In-Reply-To: <20040511074913.1111.qmail@web60007.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040511074913.1111.qmail@web60007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040511081657.GD3568@harry.pza.net.au> Make sure you have the latest: xorg-x11-6.7.0-2 pyxf86config-0.3.18-2 system-config-display-1.0.14-1 Then run system-config-display. Phil On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 12:49:13AM -0700, Stefan Lecho wrote: > I would like to change my monitors resolution with the > aid of the Display configuration in FC2T3. > > When selecting the appropriate display type, the > supported resolutions are displayed correctly. When I > choose 1024x786 as the default resolution and confirm > the selection, the xorg.conf file is changed. > > When I re-open the Display configuration the supported > resolution is reduced to 600x480. The 1024x786 > resolution is not shown in the list. Re-selecting the > same display type, re-displays all the supported > resolutions. > > Apparantly FC2T3 does not remember the selection of > 1024x786 as my default resolution and is not capable > of displaying the supported resolutions for the > selected display type. > > Can anyone give me an advise on how to solve this > issue ? > > Monitor: Philips Brilliance 17A > Graphics Card: NVidia GeForce FX5200 > > Regards, Stefan Lecho. > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover > > > From fedora at andrewfarris.com Tue May 11 10:05:16 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 03:05:16 -0700 Subject: NVIDIA again - X server doesn't start [x86_64] In-Reply-To: <1084262553.5229.26.camel@littlePiet> References: <1084262553.5229.26.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1084269915.28743.4.camel@CirithUngol> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 10:02 +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module There is the issue, have you tried this while loading the module beforehand? Directly load the module with modprobe nvidia, then see what happens. > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration Yes, just followup. > I suppose the screen message is a follow up. There is nothing wrong with > my xorg.conf. > > I followed the FAQ on the nvidia site but couldn't find a solution. The kernel module must be loaded.. whether or not it is using the nvidia agp handler or agpgart instead, the module must load -- get the module to load and this should go away. If it works manually inserting the module, then you might be missing the /etc/modprobe.conf alias: alias char-major-195* nvidia > Did anyone succeed to use the NVIDIA driver with test 3 on an AMD64? I don't have a 64bit chip, so cannot confirm anything. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From philip at balister.org Tue May 11 11:10:44 2004 From: philip at balister.org (Philip Balister) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:10:44 -0400 Subject: [fedora-test] Re: Xsane In-Reply-To: <40A04A9E.9020405@earthlink.net> References: <1084229793.4698.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> <1084231472.4427.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A01759.6090908@earthlink.net> <40A03B1C.3050506@amberpoint.com> <40A04A9E.9020405@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040511111044.GA15731@nemesis.maddog.net> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 10:38:06PM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > Brian Anderson wrote: > >Perhaps because you can access it from the Gimp. I asked this same > >question in bugzilla and the removal is deliberate... > > That's not a very sensible reason. The Xsane interface itself is useful > without Gimp. For example, it can be used in the "Copy" mode to send a > scanned document directly to the default system printer without the > overhead of opening Gimp. I also noticed xsane was missing. I specifically use the copy function, especially around tax time. Well, I know enough to type xsane at the command line, but you get the idea. Philip From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 11 11:29:51 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:29:51 -0400 Subject: valgrind on FC2 (undefined symbol: __libc_accept) Message-ID: <200405110729.55655.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Anyone successfully build/install valgrind on FC2? I just tried. I grabbed the current tar, which includes a .spec. I had to add a little to the .spec because they forgot to package a couple of headers. It built OK, but doesn't work. Here's what I got: valgrind ./TestTurbo ./TestTurbo: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/valgrind/valgrind.so: undefined symbol: __libc_accept Any clues? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAoLkxMDqogpR5tkMRAprTAJ93ADdHyioCHPDac/ikC9c/PIuqTwCfQ1lX kkl0lWGKK0R8oR0YzPVEuG0= =kJo2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From farzadb82 at cox.net Tue May 11 12:04:23 2004 From: farzadb82 at cox.net (Farzad Battiwalla) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:04:23 -0400 Subject: [FC2T3] Monitor resolution In-Reply-To: <20040511080710.647BB7404D@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040511080710.647BB7404D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084277063.18131.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Uncomment the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in your xorg.conf file. The same thing happened to me. It seems like a bug in the DCC module not being able to detect the corrent HSync and VRefresh. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From masterra at m-ra.net Tue May 11 12:29:49 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:29:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I get a malformed patch error on the line: #define ARCH_MIN_TASKALIGN 16 Also, when you say after the 4g4g.patch, do you mean after reversing that patch? -Quasar On Mon, 10 May 2004, Mike McEwan wrote: > Found the problem. It would appear that the '4g4g.patch' has also had some > CONFIG_4KSTACKS stuff removed recently. I applied the following and > everything is fine once more. > > Make sure it's applied *after* the '4g4g.patch': > > --- include/asm-i386/processor.h.orig 2004-05-09 23:50:05.000000000 +0100 > +++ include/asm-i386/processor.h 2004-05-10 23:27:37.835866624 +0100 > @@ -408,11 +408,11 @@ > > #define ARCH_MIN_TASKALIGN 16 > > - > +#ifdef CONFIG_4KSTACKS > #define STACK_PAGE_COUNT (4096/PAGE_SIZE) > - > - > - > +#else > +#define STACK_PAGE_COUNT (8192/PAGE_SIZE) /* THREAD_SIZE/PAGE_SIZE */ > +#endif > > struct thread_struct { > /* cached TLS descriptors. */ > > -- > Mike. > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 11 12:32:32 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:32:32 -0400 Subject: Dovecot Imap broken! (SegFault) Message-ID: After updating yesterday, I can no longer use Dovecot Imap: Whatever change was made, it was not good. May 11 08:30:24 rpppc1 dovecot: child 16061 (imap) killed with signal 11 From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Tue May 11 12:59:34 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:59:34 -0400 Subject: How to get back on the testing treadmill Message-ID: With the recent switchover anticipating the upcomming FC2 release, both yum and up2date config files have been changed. I assume that updates are still coming out for testing. What do /etc/yum.conf and /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources have to be changed back _to_, to start getting those updates again? From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue May 11 12:42:37 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory. In-Reply-To: <200405110549.i4B5nHh1012255@orion.dwf.com> References: Message from Brian Bober of "Mon, 10 May 2004 19:22:51 PDT." <20040511022251.65531.qmail@web90103.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <200405110549.i4B5nHh1012255@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <1307.12.29.16.103.1084279357.squirrel@12.29.16.103> reg at dwf.com said: [snip] > While running interactively, all the interesting fields at the top > (like Mem) are BLANK. > Stopping it, still blank. > BUT, if I use the mouse to copy the top of the 'top' display > somewhere else, (like this message), > then the fields are filled in with what appear to be > correct values. > STRANGE. > Ive NEVER seen anything like that before. [snip] Verify that your terminal is set to display bold characters correctly. IIRC the new version of top displays this info in bold. -- William Hooper From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue May 11 12:51:36 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:51:36 +0200 Subject: NVIDIA again - X server doesn't start [x86_64] In-Reply-To: <1084269915.28743.4.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1084262553.5229.26.camel@littlePiet> <1084269915.28743.4.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1084279895.5229.29.camel@littlePiet> Am Di, den 11.05.2004 schrieb Andrew Farris um 12:05: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 10:02 +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module > > There is the issue, have you tried this while loading the module > beforehand? Directly load the module with modprobe nvidia, then see > what happens. Thank you for your information. You gave me that little, but urgently needed piece to understand the full picture. nvidia is now up and runing, my twinview configuration is working, all is fine now (and I spent so much time for it the last weeks and never succeeded). Thanks Peter From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 11 12:52:27 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:52:27 -0500 Subject: How to get back on the testing treadmill In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A0CC8B.5080601@earthlink.net> Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > > With the recent switchover anticipating the upcomming FC2 > release, both yum and up2date config files have been changed. > > I assume that updates are still coming out for testing. Yes, I have still gotten some after this up2date change. > > What do /etc/yum.conf and /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources have > to be changed back _to_, to start getting those updates again? > This is my temporary setup in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources where I have added a couple of mirrors to selectively use by uncommenting one that I think may be responsive (these lines end in "development".) I double commented the lines for fc2 to remind me to open those up later. Of course, look out for line wrap in the lines below. ##yum fedora-core-2 http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-2 ##yum updates-released-fc2 http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-2 ##yum-mirror fedora-core-2 http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 ##yum-mirror updates-released-fc2 http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 #yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever #yum updates-testing ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development yum updates-testing ftp://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development #yum updates-testing ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development #yum-mirror updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-testing Gerry Tool From massimiliano.zagaglia at futuremediaitaly.it Tue May 11 15:03:59 2004 From: massimiliano.zagaglia at futuremediaitaly.it (Massimiliano Zagaglia) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:03:59 +0000 Subject: Fedora on italian magazine Message-ID: <1084287818.2313.112.camel@ninjak> Hello, I'm the editor of an italian magazine about Linux. I have a doubt: Fedora is free, so can I publish all 4 CDs into my mag without changing anything? With Red Hat, I had to remove RH logo and I couldn't use the name Red Hat Linux. With Fedora, instead, I can download ISO images and write them to CDs without problem, right? And can I write the name Fedora Core 2 into CDs label and cover? I read Web pages with the distributions conditions, but I would like some confirmation from Fedora developers to not make errors... Another question: may I use the image of a hat into CDs label? Or it's a problem for Red Hat... Thank you very much for your help... Massimiliano From mike_mcewan at hotmail.com Tue May 11 13:08:24 2004 From: mike_mcewan at hotmail.com (Mike McEwan) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:08:24 +0000 Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set Message-ID: Looks like the Hotmail web interface I used has stripped the blanks from the beginning of the context lines - the ones without a '+' or a '-'. Reinsert the blanks (one on each line should suffice) and hopefully everything will be OK. Alternatively, make your own patch - the patch is only adding three lines. By "after the 4g4g.patch", I mean applying the '4g4g' patch as normal, *not* reversing it. >I get a malformed patch error on the line: >#define ARCH_MIN_TASKALIGN 16 >Also, when you say after the 4g4g.patch, do you mean after reversing that >patch? >-Quasar On Mon, 10 May 2004, Mike McEwan wrote: >Found the problem. It would appear that the '4g4g.patch' has also had some >CONFIG_4KSTACKS stuff removed recently. I applied the following and >everything is fine once more. > >Make sure it's applied *after* the '4g4g.patch': > >--- include/asm-i386/processor.h.orig 2004-05-09 23:50:05.000000000 +0100 >+++ include/asm-i386/processor.h 2004-05-10 23:27:37.835866624 +0100 >@@ -408,11 +408,11 @@ > >#define ARCH_MIN_TASKALIGN 16 > >- >+#ifdef CONFIG_4KSTACKS >#define STACK_PAGE_COUNT (4096/PAGE_SIZE) >- >- >- >+#else >+#define STACK_PAGE_COUNT (8192/PAGE_SIZE) /* THREAD_SIZE/PAGE_SIZE */ >+#endif > >struct thread_struct { >/* cached TLS descriptors. */ > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo From mike_mcewan at hotmail.com Tue May 11 13:15:34 2004 From: mike_mcewan at hotmail.com (Mike McEwan) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:15:34 +0000 Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set Message-ID: That should have been "the patch is only adding 4 lines" :-) _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess From masterra at m-ra.net Tue May 11 13:26:09 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:26:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Latest kernel don't boot with 4KSTACKS not set In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alright, i stared at the patch file for a bit, and opened the file, and realized what you say - that it was very simple, so i just tossed the lines in there myself already. I wasn't sure what you mean about the 4g4g patch, so i just left it alone, but disabled it in my .config. The kernel is compiling now, however, like usual, i won't be able to test it until i get home from work (i could tell it to reboot, but if it didn't work....). Thanks for the info though - hopefully this works :) -Quasar On Tue, 11 May 2004, Mike McEwan wrote: > Looks like the Hotmail web interface I used has stripped the blanks from the > beginning of the context lines - the ones without a '+' or a '-'. Reinsert > the blanks (one on each line should suffice) and hopefully everything will > be OK. Alternatively, make your own patch - the patch is only adding three > lines. > > By "after the 4g4g.patch", I mean applying the '4g4g' patch as normal, > *not* reversing it. > > >I get a malformed patch error on the line: > > >#define ARCH_MIN_TASKALIGN 16 > > > >Also, when you say after the 4g4g.patch, do you mean after reversing that > >patch? > > >-Quasar > > On Mon, 10 May 2004, Mike McEwan wrote: > > >Found the problem. It would appear that the '4g4g.patch' has also had some > >CONFIG_4KSTACKS stuff removed recently. I applied the following and > >everything is fine once more. > > > >Make sure it's applied *after* the '4g4g.patch': > > > >--- include/asm-i386/processor.h.orig 2004-05-09 23:50:05.000000000 +0100 > >+++ include/asm-i386/processor.h 2004-05-10 23:27:37.835866624 +0100 > >@@ -408,11 +408,11 @@ > > > >#define ARCH_MIN_TASKALIGN 16 > > > >- > >+#ifdef CONFIG_4KSTACKS > >#define STACK_PAGE_COUNT (4096/PAGE_SIZE) > >- > >- > >- > >+#else > >+#define STACK_PAGE_COUNT (8192/PAGE_SIZE) /* THREAD_SIZE/PAGE_SIZE */ > >+#endif > > > >struct thread_struct { > >/* cached TLS descriptors. */ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 11 13:26:55 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:26:55 -0400 Subject: Fedora on italian magazine In-Reply-To: <1084287818.2313.112.camel@ninjak> References: <1084287818.2313.112.camel@ninjak> Message-ID: <604aa79104051106263e791411@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 11 May 2004 15:03:59 +0000, Massimiliano Zagaglia wrote: > I read Web pages with the distributions conditions, but I would like > some confirmation from Fedora developers to not make errors... > > Another question: may I use the image of a hat into CDs label? Or it's a > problem for Red Hat... > I don't think you want input from redhat's developers. You actually want input from trademarks at redhat.com. This isn't a technical issue the developers can help with, its a legal issue involving the trademarks. And to be honest, the trademark guidelines as written read as a document by lawyers for lawyers. http://fedora.redhat.com/about/trademarks/guidelines/page4.html The intent here is to give you the ability to burn official isos to media and be able to call them Fedora if you warrenty the media you are selling/giving out. But the text on that page is a bit...dry... to say the least. You might want to add a statement like "distributed by...." to indicate that you or your company are the ones who burned the images to disk. That way people know to come to you if their disks do not work. Here is a list of vendors currently selling copies, you might check out what they do about branding: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/vendors.html -jef From pza at pza.net.au Tue May 11 13:47:15 2004 From: pza at pza.net.au (Phil Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:47:15 +1000 Subject: cron fails to load after upgrade to FC2 Message-ID: <1084283234.6503.4.camel@hallucination.pza.net.au> I just updated one of my FC1 boxes to FC2T3 (and updated), and cron is having serious problems! It starts up, but fails to load the crontab, or anything in the cron.d directory. May 11 23:17:35 harry crond[6682]: (system_u) getfilecon FAILED (/etc/crontab) May 11 23:17:35 harry crond[6682]: (system_u) getfilecon FAILED (/etc/cron.d/clamav-update) Possibly a SELinux problem? I'm just using the default SELinux settings (disabled?). No selinux kernel boot parameters, and the file /etc/sysconfig/selinux doesn't exist. Any ideas? Or is this one for bugzilla? Thanks, Phil From alexl at redhat.com Tue May 11 14:05:37 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 11 May 2004 16:05:37 +0200 Subject: Gnome Keyring not working? In-Reply-To: <1083726269.1424.2.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> References: <1083726269.1424.2.camel@mast.flowtheory.net> Message-ID: <1084284336.19104.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 05:04, Joshua Adam Ginsberg wrote: > Hello -- > > I've been trying to experiment with the improved VFS of Gnome and > Nautilus in FC2T3, but I can't seem to get the Gnome Keyring to do, > well, anything. I open an SFTP resource through Nautilus and it asks me > for the password and how/if I want to save that password. When I close > that window and reaccess it, I'm prompted once more to provide the > username and password and how/if I want to save it. If I open a document > from that SFTP resource by double-clicking, I am prompted not once, but > twice, for the password. And again, no clicking of the checkboxes seems > to make a difference. I can see that the gnome-keyring-daemon is running > in the background, but I'm skeptical it's doing anything. Any further > ways I can troubleshoot this? Thanks! The sftp method doesn't support gnome-keyring at the moment. Unfortunately. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's a fast talking neurotic filmmaker from a doomed world. She's a bloodthirsty snooty single mother from a secret island of warrior women. They fight crime! From alexl at redhat.com Tue May 11 14:10:24 2004 From: alexl at redhat.com (Alexander Larsson) Date: 11 May 2004 16:10:24 +0200 Subject: more info on the x86_64 nautilus crash In-Reply-To: <409C589A.4070805@moongroup.com> References: <409C589A.4070805@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <1084284624.19104.127.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 05:48, Chuck Mead wrote: > I installed the debuginfo packages so I could get a good backtrace > (thanx Warren). I then created a brand new user and logged into gnome. > Same old result... Nautilus went ka-runch! But this time I captured the > output from bug-buddy into a file and am sending it to the list. it > appears that bugzilla is down tonight so I wanted to get it sent > somewhere before I have ot leave for Boston. You also need the debuginfo packages for glib2, ORBit2, libbonobo and gnome-vfs2. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl at redhat.com alla at lysator.liu.se He's an old-fashioned native American farmboy on the wrong side of the law. She's a plucky belly-dancing vampire from out of town. They fight crime! From andy at plausible.org Tue May 11 14:12:28 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:12:28 -0700 Subject: Driver Nvidia and kernel 2.6.5-1.358 on FC2 T1 In-Reply-To: <40A05A04.6000501@sbcglobal.net> References: <200405110107.48615.asantini@movinet.com.uy> <40A05A04.6000501@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40A0DF4C.9040205@plausible.org> jim tate wrote: > I sure wished this NVIDIA bug could get solved, I want to upgrade my > Laptop Dell Inspiron 8600 / Nvidia Geforce2Go 5200. Has Nvidia at > there Website come out with a driver for the 2.6 kernel ? NVidia has had a driver for the 2.6 kernel for many months. The problem is an incompatibility with the FC2 kernel only. Stock kernels work fine (I am running 2.6.6 right now), and are what you will have to use until and unless NVidia supports the 4KSTACKS option. Fedora kernels simply won't work with the drivers. Andy From lynn at garlic.com Tue May 11 14:35:23 2004 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:35:23 -0600 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory In-Reply-To: <20040511140526.38D32744B4@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040511140526.38D32744B4@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084286123.3715.163.camel@lhwlinux> top on my 4gbyte machine, "out of the box" kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.358 Mem: 3636020k total, 799388k used, 2836632k free, 197444k buffers Swap: 8385528k total, 0k used, 8385528k free, 192556k cached -- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Tue May 11 14:41:23 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:41:23 +0200 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap Message-ID: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> Hi, maybe I missed something so you could please push me in the right direction, but is the WU-imap package replaced by the Dovecot Imap server? If so, what would I have to do if I update my current Fedora 1 imap server to core 2? If there is no replace, I haven't found the imap-rpm in FC2T3. Regards G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From whb at ceimaine.org Tue May 11 14:35:54 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (whb at ceimaine.org) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <7346.142.167.72.118.1084286154.squirrel@mail.ceimaine.org> See the discussion thread on cyrus-imap. Looks like there are no good answers, but most people seem to think that an upgrade to cyrus is a good choice. Migration of exisisting mail from UW-IMAP requires finding some documentation. I'm in the same situation, and I am trying to see what will work. I have been using the mbx format (instead of the mbox format), so both options require some work for me. Good luck. > Hi, > > maybe I missed something so you could please push me in the right > direction, but is the WU-imap package replaced by the Dovecot Imap server? > > If so, what would I have to do if I update my current Fedora 1 imap > server to core 2? > > If there is no replace, I haven't found the imap-rpm in FC2T3. > > Regards > > G?tz > -- > G?tz Reinicke > IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet > > Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 > Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 > goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de > > Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg > Mathildenstr. 20 > 71638 Ludwigsburg > www.filmakademie.de > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Tue May 11 14:49:48 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:49:48 +0200 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <40A0E80C.6010809@filmakademie.de> Sorry! I found the Releasenotes for FC2T3 and that the imap package is renamed! Anyway, is dovecot a better choice? Thanks! G?tz G?tz Reinicke schrieb: > Hi, > > maybe I missed something so you could please push me in the right > direction, but is the WU-imap package replaced by the Dovecot Imap server? > > If so, what would I have to do if I update my current Fedora 1 imap > server to core 2? > > If there is no replace, I haven't found the imap-rpm in FC2T3. > > Regards > > G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Tue May 11 15:00:02 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:00:02 -0400 Subject: Hang on re-start at Swap Enable/Disable Line In-Reply-To: <20040511140525.C11F3744B0@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040511140525.C11F3744B0@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084287602.4693.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> I just had a hang that required a reboot on Test 3. I had selected "save session" and selected "restart" not "shutdown." I rarely select restart. It hung on the Swap line while booting down. I eventually rebooted and it hung on Enable Swap on start-up, forcing me to reboot again. The second time I did a disc check and it eventually started. Have others seen anything similar? Rory From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 11 15:14:25 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:14:25 -0400 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <7346.142.167.72.118.1084286154.squirrel@mail.ceimaine.org> References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> <7346.142.167.72.118.1084286154.squirrel@mail.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <200405111114.27018.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 cyrus is possibly faster, but is clearly a more heavy weight solution. Setup and admin for cyrus is greater. Dovecot is lighter and simpler. cyrus uses it's own binary database. dovecot works with simple file formats, like maildir. cyrus does its own delivery. dovecot doesn't. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAoO3RMDqogpR5tkMRAu3ZAJ9f0gKQENONkOwDlgE3DrrplYJhtgCgiwes qyRAiVClYF31wVlX4u4nj+A= =0Unk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gonzo at eng.lsu.edu Tue May 11 15:33:26 2004 From: gonzo at eng.lsu.edu (Steve Gonzales) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:33:26 -0500 Subject: Kickstart Failure Message-ID: <1084289606.7366.19.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> Hello. I am testing Fedora Core 2 Test 3. I am able to install it on multiple computers in various ways with one exception which fails on all computers: kickstart (both "linux ks=floppy" and "linux ks"). The process gets all the way to installing packages when it fails on the "at-3.1.8-52" package. The following "Error Installing Package" window appears: "There was an error installing at-3.1.8-52. This can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. This is a fatal error and your install will be aborted. Please verify your media and try your install again." I can install from this NFS point using "linux askmethod" at the linux: prompt. Googling this problem reveals that at least one other person has had this problem but no resolution has been found. The %packages section in my kickstart file looks like: %packages @ kde-software-development @ office @ kde-desktop @ x-software-development @ gnome-desktop @ dialup @ editors @ admin-tools @ system-tools @ base-x @ sound-and-video @ printing @ gnome-software-development @ graphics @ kernel-development @ development-tools @ text-internet @ graphical-internet kdemultimedia -xsane-gimp kernel -openoffice.org ethereal-gnome gcc-objc -slrn quanta -sane-frontends -gpdf -fetchmail lynx e2fsprogs -xchat -xsane system-config-proc nmap-frontend shapecfg xpdf x3270-x11 grub xmms grip kdegraphics -gaim expect xmms-skins Other than the "selinux --disabled" line, the top section has all the standard global configuration parameters such as keyboard, firewall, and bootloader. Any help would, of course, be appreciated. TIA! Steve Gonzales LSU Div. of Engineering Services From brott at redh.com Tue May 11 15:51:11 2004 From: brott at redh.com (Doug Brott) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:51:11 -0700 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <40A0E80C.6010809@filmakademie.de> References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> <40A0E80C.6010809@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <40A0F66F.8040507@redh.com> G?tz Reinicke wrote: > > Anyway, is dovecot a better choice [than WU-IMAP]? > > Thanks! > G?tz > G?tz Reinicke schrieb: > I've been using dovecot for a long time now. Granted I have a relatively small system, but dovecot is by far the easiest IMAP server I have ever installed or used. I used to have connection issues with WU-IMAP all of the time and finally told myself "there must be something better." I took what turned out to be a relatively small effort to move to dovecot and no longer even think about the IMAP server .. it just works. I do use the MAILDIR format for my messages. I cannot remember if this is a requirement with dovecot or not, but I like MAILDIR format better than MBOX format. While "better" may be relative to your situation, I can only say that I have had a positive experience with dovecot. Regards -- Doug Brott brott at redh.com From billy at trigby.com Tue May 11 16:26:20 2004 From: billy at trigby.com (Billy Charlton) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity Message-ID: <33140.66.47.66.178.1084292780.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> > The images size (not file size) is huge: > > mustang:~/downloads> identify sfstreets.tif > sfstreets.tif TIFF 11248x14484+0+0 PseudoClass 2c 8-bit 209.4kb 1.570u 0:02 > > That's like 164 times the area (in square pixels) of my monitor! > > I have no idea how to make those programs more efficient. Can you > make do with a scaled down image? I scaled it down to 20% in the > gimp and it is very readable at 2250x2897. I guess it depends on your > application as to whether this is acceptable. > > With the scaled down image, things open up just fine and use a lot > less memory. > > -David Ok I see that the image area is large, but the file is only 200k. It would be a nice enhancement if Nautilus could cancel the preview if the image size is larger than (x). The current 3Mb file size option doesn't seem to catch this case. In the meanwhile I'll have to turn thumbnail previewing off, since I am not supposed to modify the images. Thanks to all for your help. -Billy From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Tue May 11 16:30:24 2004 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 18:30:24 +0200 Subject: Anaconda crashes when harddisk installing today's rsynced tree dvd iso Message-ID: <1084293024.3089.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Hello, I just tried a harddisk install of today's rsynced tree dvd iso made by Chris Kloiber's excellent FedoraSync.sh script. Anaconda throws an exception error. The debug output is attached. Is this something that needs to go into bugzilla or is harddisk installing the rsynced tree dvd iso unsupported (at this time)? Regards, Patrick -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: anacdump.txt.gz Type: application/x-gzip Size: 11002 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jrobertson at convera.com Tue May 11 16:33:04 2004 From: jrobertson at convera.com (Joe Robertson) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:33:04 -0700 Subject: Kickstart Failure Message-ID: Steve, I have encountered this same problem as well. I'm trying to do a kickstart via NFS with a minimal install. I reported it on the kickstart list on May 8. https://listman.redhat.com/archives/kickstart-list/2004-May/msg00034.htm l along with another problem I'm seeing related to e1000.ko NIC drivers failing during network kickstart attempts. It was reported by Martin Robb on the kickstart list on April 30. https://listman.redhat.com/archives/kickstart-list/2004-April/msg00107.h tml Thanks, Joe > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Gonzales [mailto:gonzo at eng.lsu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:33 AM > To: Fedora Test List > Subject: Kickstart Failure > > > Hello. > > I am testing Fedora Core 2 Test 3. I am able to install it > on multiple computers in various ways with one exception > which fails on all > computers: kickstart (both "linux ks=floppy" and "linux ks"). > > The process gets all the way to installing packages when it > fails on the "at-3.1.8-52" package. The following "Error > Installing Package" window > appears: > > "There was an error installing at-3.1.8-52. This can > indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware > problems. This is a fatal error and your install will be > aborted. Please verify your media and try your install again." > > I can install from this NFS point using "linux askmethod" at > the linux: prompt. > > Googling this problem reveals that at least one other person > has had this problem but no resolution has been found. > > The %packages section in my kickstart file looks like: > %packages @ kde-software-development @ office @ kde-desktop @ > x-software-development @ gnome-desktop @ dialup @ editors @ > admin-tools @ system-tools @ base-x @ sound-and-video @ > printing @ gnome-software-development @ graphics @ > kernel-development @ development-tools @ text-internet @ > graphical-internet kdemultimedia -xsane-gimp kernel > -openoffice.org ethereal-gnome gcc-objc -slrn quanta > -sane-frontends -gpdf -fetchmail lynx e2fsprogs -xchat -xsane > system-config-proc nmap-frontend shapecfg xpdf x3270-x11 grub > xmms grip kdegraphics -gaim expect xmms-skins > > > Other than the "selinux --disabled" line, the top section has > all the standard global configuration parameters such as > keyboard, firewall, and bootloader. > > Any help would, of course, be appreciated. > > TIA! > Steve Gonzales > LSU Div. of Engineering Services > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From wtogami at redhat.com Tue May 11 16:37:35 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 06:37:35 -1000 Subject: Dovecot Imap broken! (SegFault) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A1014F.40502@redhat.com> Neal D. Becker wrote: > After updating yesterday, I can no longer use Dovecot Imap: > Whatever change was made, it was not good. > > May 11 08:30:24 rpppc1 dovecot: child 16061 (imap) killed with signal 11 Arg... three patches from the author were applied in order to solve other bugs. Can you please send your /etc/dovecot.conf file? Warren From michal at harddata.com Tue May 11 16:49:08 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:49:08 -0600 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <7346.142.167.72.118.1084286154.squirrel@mail.ceimaine.org>; from whb@ceimaine.org on Tue, May 11, 2004 at 10:35:54AM -0400 References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> <7346.142.167.72.118.1084286154.squirrel@mail.ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <20040511104908.A20601@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 10:35:54AM -0400, whb at ceimaine.org wrote: > Looks like there are no good answers, but most people seem to think that > an upgrade to cyrus is a good choice. Let say it that way. Among many other considerations - until procmail has a way to handle cyrus boxes the later is many light years from beeing suitable for what I need. I may be mistaken about capabilities of procmail, although this does not seem to be the case, but so much for a "good choice". Still we are not condemned to cyrus. Michal From Greg.King at lmit.com Tue May 11 16:49:24 2004 From: Greg.King at lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:49:24 -0500 Subject: getnotincomps.py,rebuild question, and where is getfullcomps.py Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF72@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> I am starting a build environment for FC2 and using an FC2test 3 system to test with. One thing I noticed is that getfullcomps.py is not part of the comps-extras. Instead all I get is getnotincomps.py and whichcd.py. All i found searching archives is a link to a version change. Where is getfullcomps.py ? If it is no longer part of the distribution, would someone help me with getnotincomps.py? I am having trouble getting the script to work. the directory structure that contains all 3 cd's (not the 4th one yet) /home/FC2/ fedora-load/ i386/ Fedora/ images/ isolinux/ .....cd contents getnotincomps.py has the following usage: /path/to/tree arch [basepath] I have tried multiple combinations on the above parameters but always get a python error complaining about it not finding the hdlist What am I doing incorrectly to make this script work? thanks, Greg From alan at redhat.com Tue May 11 16:51:40 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:51:40 -0400 Subject: Fedora on italian magazine In-Reply-To: <1084287818.2313.112.camel@ninjak> References: <1084287818.2313.112.camel@ninjak> Message-ID: <20040511165140.GD13401@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 03:03:59PM +0000, Massimiliano Zagaglia wrote: > Fedora is free, so can I publish all 4 CDs into my mag without changing > anything? With Red Hat, I had to remove RH logo and I couldn't use the > name Red Hat Linux. With Fedora, instead, I can download ISO images and > write them to CDs without problem, right? And can I write the name > Fedora Core 2 into CDs label and cover? The full text is on Fedora.redhat.com so read that but basically - You can use the name to describe the exact FC images from Fedora Project - You must warrant the media (ie offer replacements for bad disks) if you charge for the Fedora project > Another question: may I use the image of a hat into CDs label? Or it's a > problem for Red Hat... The Red Hat man in a hat (shadowman) logo is certainly protected. The general case of a red hat I don't know about. Alan From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Tue May 11 16:54:10 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, ForrestX) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:54:10 -0700 Subject: Kickstart Failure In-Reply-To: <1084289606.7366.19.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> References: <1084289606.7366.19.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> Message-ID: <1084294450.32618.12.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 08:33, Steve Gonzales wrote: > Hello. > > I am testing Fedora Core 2 Test 3. I am able to install it on multiple > computers in various ways with one exception which fails on all > computers: kickstart (both "linux ks=floppy" and "linux ks"). > > The process gets all the way to installing packages when it fails on the > "at-3.1.8-52" package. The following "Error Installing Package" window > appears: > > "There was an error installing at-3.1.8-52. This can indicate media > failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. This is a fatal > error and your install will be aborted. Please verify your media and > try your install again." > > I can install from this NFS point using "linux askmethod" at the linux: > prompt. What are the permissions on at-3.1.8-52? This usually happens to me when the permissions are not 644. FOrrest From Greg.King at lmit.com Tue May 11 16:56:26 2004 From: Greg.King at lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:56:26 -0500 Subject: Strange lockups on Dell workstations Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF73@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> I have had some lockup problems occur during the install and after the install on a Dell GX 240. I was able to get around the second lockup by removing the kernel option 'rhgb' during the initial boot menu. I forgot what i did for the first lockup, Ill be reinstalling again soon enough and can post it. I dont have much more information though as the system locks up which makes it difficult to get any data when the only solution to get control back is to power-cycle the system. Greg From jrobertson at convera.com Tue May 11 17:00:12 2004 From: jrobertson at convera.com (Joe Robertson) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:00:12 -0700 Subject: Kickstart Failure Message-ID: My settings for at-3.1.8-52 are 644. I don't have any problems if I'm installing a minimal install interactively - just with kickstart. Joe > -----Original Message----- > From: Taylor, ForrestX [mailto:forrestx.taylor at intel.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:54 AM > What are the permissions on at-3.1.8-52? This usually > happens to me when the permissions are not 644. > > FOrrest > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 11 17:00:44 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:00:44 -0400 Subject: Dovecot Imap broken! (SegFault) In-Reply-To: <40A1014F.40502@redhat.com> References: <40A1014F.40502@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405111300.45041.ndbecker2@verizon.net> On Tuesday 11 May 2004 12:37 pm, Warren Togami wrote: > Neal D. Becker wrote: > > After updating yesterday, I can no longer use Dovecot Imap: > > Whatever change was made, it was not good. > > > > May 11 08:30:24 rpppc1 dovecot: child 16061 (imap) killed with signal 11 > > Arg... three patches from the author were applied in order to solve > other bugs. Can you please send your /etc/dovecot.conf file? > OK, here it is: -------------- next part -------------- ## Dovecot 1.0 configuration file # Default values are shown after each value, it's not required to uncomment # any of the lines. Exception to this are paths, they're just examples # with real defaults being based on configure options. The paths listed here # are for configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var # --with-ssldir=/usr/share/ssl # Base directory where to store runtime data. #base_dir = /var/run/dovecot/ # Protocols we want to be serving: # imap imaps pop3 pop3s protocols = imap imaps pop3 pop3s # IP or host address where to listen in for connections. It's not currently # possible to specify multiple addresses. "*" listens in all IPv4 interfaces. # "[::]" listens in all IPv6 interfaces, but may also listen in all IPv4 # interfaces depending on the operating system. You can specify ports with # "host:port". #imap_listen = * #pop3_listen = * # IP or host address where to listen in for SSL connections. Defaults # to above non-SSL equilevants if not specified. #imaps_listen = #pop3s_listen = # Disable SSL/TLS support. #ssl_disable = no # PEM encoded X.509 SSL/TLS certificate and private key. They're opened before # dropping root privileges, so keep the key file unreadable by anyone but # root. Included doc/mkcert.sh can be used to easily generate self-signed # certificate, just make sure to update the domains in dovecot-openssl.cnf #ssl_cert_file = /usr/share/ssl/certs/dovecot.pem #ssl_key_file = /usr/share/ssl/private/dovecot.pem # SSL parameter file. Master process generates this file for login processes. # It contains Diffie Hellman and RSA parameters. #ssl_parameters_file = /var/run/dovecot/ssl-parameters.dat # How often to regenerate the SSL parameters file. Generation is quite CPU # intensive operation. The value is in hours, 0 disables regeneration # entirely. #ssl_parameters_regenerate = 24 # Disable LOGIN command and all other plaintext authentications unless # SSL/TLS is used (LOGINDISABLED capability) #disable_plaintext_auth = no # Use this logfile instead of syslog(). /dev/stderr can be used if you want to # use stderr for logging (ONLY /dev/stderr - otherwise it is closed). #log_path = # For informational messages, use this logfile instead of the default #info_log_path = # Prefix for each line written to log file. % codes are in strftime(3) # format. Note the extra space at the end of line. #log_timestamp = "%b %d %H:%M:%S " ## ## Login processes ## # Directory where authentication process places authentication UNIX sockets # which login needs to be able to connect to. The sockets are created when # running as root, so you don't have to worry about permissions. login_dir = /var/run/dovecot-login # chroot login process to the login_dir. Only reason not to do this is if you # wish to run the whole Dovecot without roots. #login_chroot = yes ## ## IMAP login process ## login = imap # Executable location. #login_executable = /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap-login # User to use for the login process. Create a completely new user for this, # and don't use it anywhere else. The user must also belong to a group where # only it has access, it's used to control access for authentication process. #login_user = dovecot # Set max. process size in megabytes. If you don't use # login_process_per_connection you might need to grow this. #login_process_size = 16 # Should each login be processed in it's own process (yes), or should one # login process be allowed to process multiple connections (no)? Yes is more # secure, espcially with SSL/TLS enabled. No is faster since there's no need # to create processes all the time. #login_process_per_connection = yes # Number of login processes to create. If login_process_per_user is # yes, this is the number of extra processes waiting for users to log in. #login_processes_count = 3 # Maximum number of extra login processes to create. The extra process count # usually stays at login_processes_count, but when multiple users start logging # in at the same time more extra processes are created. To prevent fork-bombing # we check only once in a second if new processes should be created - if all # of them are used at the time, we double their amount until limit set by this # setting is reached. This setting is used only if login_process_per_use is yes. #login_max_processes_count = 128 # Maximum number of connections allowed in login state. When this limit is # reached, the oldest connections are dropped. If login_process_per_user # is no, this is a per-process value, so the absolute maximum number of users # logging in actually login_processes_count * max_logging_users. #login_max_logging_users = 256 ## ## POP3 login process ## # Settings default to same as above, so you don't have to set anything # unless you want to override them. login = pop3 # Exception to above rule being the executable location. #login_executable = /usr/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login ## ## Mail processes ## # Maximum number of running mail processes. When this limit is reached, # new users aren't allowed to log in. #max_mail_processes = 1024 # Show more verbose process titles (in ps). Currently shows user name and # IP address. Useful for seeing who are actually using the IMAP processes # (eg. shared mailboxes or if same uid is used for multiple accounts). #verbose_proctitle = no # Show protocol level SSL errors. #verbose_ssl = no # Valid UID range for users, defaults to 500 and above. This is mostly # to make sure that users can't log in as daemons or other system users. # Note that denying root logins is hardcoded to dovecot binary and can't # be done even if first_valid_uid is set to 0. #first_valid_uid = 500 #last_valid_uid = 0 # Valid GID range for users, defaults to non-root/wheel. Users having # non-valid GID as primary group ID aren't allowed to log in. If user # belongs to supplementary groups with non-valid GIDs, those groups are # not set. #first_valid_gid = 1 #last_valid_gid = 0 # ':' separated list of directories under which chrooting is allowed for mail # processes (ie. /var/mail will allow chrooting to /var/mail/foo/bar too). # This setting doesn't affect login_chroot or auth_chroot variables. # WARNING: Never add directories here which local users can modify, that # may lead to root exploit. Usually this should be done only if you don't # allow shell access for users. See doc/configuration.txt for more information. #valid_chroot_dirs = # Default chroot directory for mail processes. This can be overridden by # giving /./ in user's home directory (eg. /home/./user chroots into /home). #mail_chroot = # Default MAIL environment to use when it's not set. By leaving this empty # dovecot tries to do some automatic detection as described in # doc/mail-storages.txt. There's a few special variables you can use: # # %u - username # %n - user part in user at domain, same as %u if there's no domain # %d - domain part in user at domain, empty if user there's no domain # %h - home directory # # You can also limit a width of string by giving the number of max. characters # after the '%' character. For example %1u gives the first character of # username. Some examples: # # maildir:/var/mail/%1u/%u/Maildir # mbox:~/mail/:INBOX=/var/mail/%u # mbox:/var/mail/%d/%n/:INDEX=/var/indexes/%d/%n # default_mail_env = maildir:~/Mail.imap # Space-separated list of fields to cache for all mails. Currently these # fields are allowed followed by a list of commands they speed up: # # Envelope - FETCH ENVELOPE and SEARCH FROM, TO, CC, BCC, SUBJECT, # SENTBEFORE, SENTON, SENTSINCE, HEADER MESSAGE-ID, # HEADER IN-REPLY-TO # Body - FETCH BODY # Bodystructure - FETCH BODY, BODYSTRUCTURE # MessagePart - FETCH BODY[1.2.3] (ie. body parts), RFC822.SIZE, # SEARCH SMALLER, LARGER, also speeds up BODY/BODYSTRUCTURE # generation. This is always set with mbox mailboxes, and # also default with Maildir. # # Different IMAP clients work in different ways, that's why Dovecot by default # only caches MessagePart which speeds up most operations. Whenever client # does something where caching could be used, the field is automatically marked # to be cached later. For example after FETCH BODY the BODY will be cached # for all new messages. Normally you should leave this alone, unless you know # what most of your IMAP clients are. Caching more fields than needed makes # the index files larger and generate useless I/O. # # With maildir there's one extra optimization - if nothing is cached, indexing # the maildir becomes much faster since it's not opening any of the mail files. # This could be useful if your IMAP clients access only new mails. #mail_cache_fields = MessagePart # Space-separated list of fields that Dovecot should never set to be cached. # Useful if you want to save disk space at the cost of more I/O when the fields # needed. #mail_never_cache_fields = # Workarounds for various client bugs: # oe6-fetch-no-newmail: # Never send EXISTS/RECENT when replying to FETCH command. Outlook Express # seems to think they are FETCH replies and gives user "Message no longer # in server" error. Note that OE6 still breaks even with this workaround # if synchronization is set to "Headers Only". # outlook-idle: # Outlook and Outlook Express never abort IDLE command, so if no mail # arrives in half a hour, Dovecot closes the connection. This is still # fine, except Outlook doesn't connect back so you don't see if new mail # arrives. #client_workarounds = # Dovecot can notify client of new mail in selected mailbox soon after it's # received. This setting specifies the minimum interval in seconds between # new mail notifications to client - internally they may be checked more or # less often. Setting this to 0 disables the checking. # NOTE: Evolution client breaks with this option when it's trying to APPEND. mailbox_check_interval = 30 # Like mailbox_check_interval, but used for IDLE command. mailbox_idle_check_interval = 30 # Allow full filesystem access to clients. There's no access checks other than # what the operating system does for the active UID/GID. It works with both # maildir and mboxes, allowing you to prefix mailboxes names with eg. /path/ # or ~user/. #mail_full_filesystem_access = no # Maximum allowed length for custom flag name. It's only forced when trying # to create new flags. #mail_max_flag_length = 50 # Save mails with CR+LF instead of plain LF. This makes sending those mails # take less CPU, especially with sendfile() syscall with Linux and FreeBSD. # But it also creates a bit more disk I/O which may just make it slower. #mail_save_crlf = no # Use mmap() instead of read() to read mail files. read() seems to be a bit # faster with my Linux/x86 and it's better with NFS, so that's the default. #mail_read_mmaped = no # Copy mail to another folders using hard links. This is much faster than # actually copying the file. This is problematic only if something modifies # the mail in one folder but doesn't want it modified in the others. I don't # know any MUA which would modify mail files directly. IMAP protocol also # requires that the mails don't change, so it would be problematic in any case. # If you care about performance, enable it. #maildir_copy_with_hardlinks = yes # Check if mails' content has been changed by external programs. This slows # down things as extra stat() needs to be called for each file. If changes are # noticed, the message is treated as a new message, since IMAP protocol # specifies that existing message are immutable. #maildir_check_content_changes = no # Which locking methods to use for locking mbox. There's three available: # dotlock: Create .lock file. This is the oldest and most NFS-safe # solution. If you want to use /var/mail/ like directory, the users # will need write access to that directory. # fcntl : Use this if possible. Works with NFS too if lockd is used. # flock : May not exist in all systems. Doesn't work with NFS. # # You can use both fcntl and flock too; if you do the order they're declared # with is important to avoid deadlocks if other MTAs/MUAs are using both fcntl # and flock. Some operating systems don't allow using both of them # simultaneously, eg. BSDs. If dotlock is used, it's always created first. mbox_locks = fcntl # Should we create dotlock file even when we want only a read-lock? Setting # this to yes hurts the performance when the mailbox is accessed simultaneously # by multiple processes, but it's needed for reliable reading if no other # locking methods are available. #mbox_read_dotlock = no # Maximum time in seconds to wait for lock (all of them) before aborting. #mbox_lock_timeout = 300 # If dotlock exists but the mailbox isn't modified in any way, override the # lock file after this many seconds. #mbox_dotlock_change_timeout = 30 # umask to use for mail files and directories #umask = 0077 # Drop all privileges before exec()ing the mail process. This is mostly # meant for debugging, otherwise you don't get core dumps. Note that setting # this to yes means that log file is opened as the logged in user, which # might not work. It could also be a small security risk if you use single UID # for multiple users, as the users could ptrace() each others processes then. #mail_drop_priv_before_exec = no ## ## IMAP process ## # Executable location #imap_executable = /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap # Set max. process size in megabytes. Most of the memory goes to mmap()ing # files, so it shouldn't harm much even if this limit is set pretty high. #imap_process_size = 256 # Support for dynamically loadable modules. #imap_use_modules = no #imap_modules = /usr/lib/dovecot/imap ## ## POP3 process ## # Executable location #pop3_executable = /usr/libexec/dovecot/pop3 # Set max. process size in megabytes. Most of the memory goes to mmap()ing # files, so it shouldn't harm much even if this limit is set pretty high. #pop3_process_size = 256 # Support for dynamically loadable modules. #pop3_use_modules = no #pop3_modules = /usr/lib/dovecot/pop3 ## ## Authentication processes ## # You can have multiple processes; each time "auth = xx" is seen, a new # process definition is started. The point of multiple processes is to be # able to set stricter permissions to others. For example, plain/PAM # authentication requires roots, but if you also use digest-md5 authentication # for some users, you can authenticate them without any privileges in a # separate auth process. Just remember that only one auth process is asked # for the password, so you can't have different passwords with different # processes (unless they have different auth methods, and you're ok with # having different password for each method). # Authentication process name. auth = default # Space separated list of wanted authentication mechanisms: # plain digest-md5 anonymous auth_mechanisms = plain # Space separated list of realms for SASL authentication mechanisms that need # them. You can leave it empty if you don't want to support multiple realms. # Many clients simply use the first one listed here, so keep the default realm # first. #auth_realms = # Default realm to use if none was specified. #auth_default_realm = # Where user database is kept: # passwd: /etc/passwd or similiar, using getpwnam() # passwd-file : passwd-like file with specified location # static uid= gid= home=: static settings # vpopmail: vpopmail library # ldap : LDAP, see doc/dovecot-ldap.conf # pgsql : a PostgreSQL database, see doc/dovecot-pgsql.conf auth_userdb = passwd #auth_userdb = pgsql /usr/local/etc/dovecot-pgsql.conf # Where password database is kept: # passwd: /etc/passwd or similiar, using getpwnam() # shadow: /etc/shadow or similiar, using getspnam() # pam [ | *]: PAM authentication # passwd-file : passwd-like file with specified location # vpopmail: vpopmail authentication # ldap : LDAP, see doc/dovecot-ldap.conf # pgsql : a PostgreSQL database, see doc/dovecot-pgsql.conf auth_passdb = shadow #auth_executable = /usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-auth # Set max. process size in megabytes. #auth_process_size = 256 # User to use for the process. This user needs access to only user and # password databases, nothing else. Only shadow and pam authentication # requires roots, so use something else if possible. auth_user = root # Directory where to chroot the process. Most authentication backends don't # work if this is set, and there's no point chrooting if auth_user is root. #auth_chroot = # Number of authentication processes to create #auth_count = 1 # List of allowed characters in username. If the user-given username contains # a character not listed in here, the login automatically fails. This is just # an extra check to make sure user can't exploit any potential quote escaping # vulnerabilities with SQL/LDAP databases. If you want to allow all characters, # set this value to empty. #auth_username_chars = abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ01234567890.-_@ # Username to use for users logging in with ANONYMOUS SASL mechanism #auth_anonymous_username = anonymous # More verbose logging. Useful for figuring out why authentication isn't # working. #auth_verbose = no # digest-md5 authentication process. It requires special MD5 passwords which # /etc/shadow and PAM doesn't support, so we never need roots to handle it. # Note that the passwd-file is opened before chrooting and dropping root # privileges, so it may be 0600-root owned file. #auth = digest_md5 #auth_methods = digest-md5 #auth_realms = #auth_userdb = passwd-file /etc/passwd.imap #auth_passdb = passwd-file /etc/passwd.imap #auth_user = imapauth #auth_chroot = # if you plan to use only passwd-file, you don't need the two auth processes, # simply set "auth_methods = plain digest-md5" From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue May 11 17:07:26 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:07:26 +0200 Subject: Release Name and Democracy? (Dusty Bradshaw) In-Reply-To: <20040508203832.UKNM24544.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <20040508203832.UKNM24544.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1084295233.10697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 08/05/2004 ? 22:38, d_bradsh at bellsouth.net a ?crit : > Lately I've been reflectig on what the release name of FC2 is > going to be. Im excited to see FC2 nearing release. I think that the > release name vetting process should follow more closely along the > Fedora philosophy. > > Before Fedora, RedHat came up with the release names. The rightly > did this because all development was done in house, and mostly the > testing was done in house. Now that Fedora is here, and is more > community supported, and tested, why don't we have a place to pick a > release name we like from a list of 5 or 6, and vote on what the > release name is. The name with the most votes, wins. I think it would > be an excellent way for the community at large to have some input, and > feel like they are more of a part of Fedora. It also might lead to > some really cool names being chosen. Of course all release names would > have to be reviewed and passed by the advisory committee before being > voted on. I just think it would cool. I alone may be of this opinion. > I may not. Anyway the voting tool could be something like /. does, and > it or a link could be placed on either: > > http://fedora.redhat.com > or > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/ > > anyway, hope you all have a nice weekend. :)) > > > > fedora-release-2 package is out. $ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release 2 (FC2) From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Tue May 11 17:11:27 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:11:27 -0400 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <20040511104908.A20601@mail.harddata.com> References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> <7346.142.167.72.118.1084286154.squirrel@mail.ceimaine.org> <20040511104908.A20601@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1084295487.4898.7.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:49, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 10:35:54AM -0400, whb at ceimaine.org wrote: > > Looks like there are no good answers, but most people seem to think that > > an upgrade to cyrus is a good choice. > > Let say it that way. Among many other considerations - until > procmail has a way to handle cyrus boxes the later is many light > years from beeing suitable for what I need. Sieve does most of what procmail does and is what I would recommend for use with cyrus-imapd. It's on the standards track (if not already a standard) to boot. See RFC3028. > I may be mistaken about capabilities of procmail, although this > does not seem to be the case, but so much for a "good choice". > Still we are not condemned to cyrus. Condemned? A bit harsh, now, aren't we? Point taken, however. Cyrus imapd is overkill and overly complex for small installations but highly suitable, IMO, for larger installations. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Tue May 11 17:16:10 2004 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:16:10 -0700 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd Message-ID: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Full text of the release here: http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html Any chance of getting this included in FC2? -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Tue May 11 17:16:15 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:16:15 -0400 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <200405111114.27018.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> <7346.142.167.72.118.1084286154.squirrel@mail.ceimaine.org> <200405111114.27018.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1084295775.4898.13.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 11:14, Neal Becker wrote: > cyrus uses it's own binary database. dovecot works with simple file formats, > like maildir. Well, not exactly. It's about as close to maildir as you can get without actually being maildir. It's one message per file and there's nothing special about the files. There are additional index files and a seen file for each user (or maybe per mailbox? I forgot). Overall, I suspect it would be trivial to convert a cyrus imapd folder into a true maildir format, given that there are already scripts out there to fix maildirs after a restore from backup. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From rda at rincon.com Tue May 11 17:17:01 2004 From: rda at rincon.com (Bob Arendt) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:17:01 -0700 Subject: what does this 'cdrom: open failed' message mean In-Reply-To: <1084261132.5229.1.camel@littlePiet> References: <20040510110313.GB2756@home.nl> <1084212307.5226.1.camel@littlePiet> <20040510192002.GA2515@home.nl> <1084261132.5229.1.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <40A10A8D.3050302@rincon.com> Peter Boy wrote: > Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Alexander Volovics um 21:20: > >>OK, I just now rebooted with a cd in the drive and the message >>disappears. But why should I get the message in the first place. >> >>I have never seen it before. > > I don't know. Maybe you updated the software and the developer decided > to add some messages to syslog. > > Peter > I believe this expected behaviour, if the system tries to mount the cdrom drive at boot. This will happen if there's an entry for the cd drive in /etc/fstab. You can avoid this boot error by: 1) adding a "noauto" option to the /etc/fstab entry (man 5 fstab) or 2) remove the /etc/fstab entry, and use autofs to mount it. - chkconfig autofs on - uncomment the "misc" entry in /etc/auto.master - uncomment and verify the "cd" entry in /etc/auto.misc accessing /misc/cd should automount the cd on demand, and unmount if it's been idle for over 60 seconds. Hope this helps. -Bob Arendt From reg at dwf.com Tue May 11 17:21:36 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:21:36 -0600 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory. In-Reply-To: Message from "William Hooper" of "Tue, 11 May 2004 08:42:37 EDT." <1307.12.29.16.103.1084279357.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <200405111721.i4BHLaGh020045@orion.dwf.com> > > reg at dwf.com said: > [snip] > > While running interactively, all the interesting fields at the top > > (like Mem) are BLANK. > > Stopping it, still blank. > > BUT, if I use the mouse to copy the top of the 'top' display > > somewhere else, (like this message), > > then the fields are filled in with what appear to be > > correct values. > > STRANGE. > > Ive NEVER seen anything like that before. > [snip] > > Verify that your terminal is set to display bold characters correctly. > IIRC the new version of top displays this info in bold. > > -- Seems that should be an X11 thing not a terminal thing. What could there possibly be in the terminal (or do you mean xterm) that has to do with displaying bold characters??? In any case this is an "out of the box" FC2T1 install, with no mods. -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From reg at dwf.com Tue May 11 17:25:05 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:25:05 -0600 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory In-Reply-To: Message from Anne & Lynn Wheeler of "Tue, 11 May 2004 08:35:23 MDT." <1084286123.3715.163.camel@lhwlinux> Message-ID: <200405111725.i4BHP58H020153@orion.dwf.com> > top on my 4gbyte machine, "out of the box" kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.358 > > > Mem: 3636020k total, 799388k used, 2836632k free, 197444k buffers > Swap: 8385528k total, 0k used, 8385528k free, 192556k cached > > > -- >From the kernel, I assume that is FC2T3. The machine I am working on is FC2T1, tho I dont know wny that should make a difference. Oh, well, at least its fixed. -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From mjc at avtechpulse.com Tue May 11 17:28:58 2004 From: mjc at avtechpulse.com (Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:28:58 -0400 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <40A0F66F.8040507@redh.com> References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> <40A0E80C.6010809@filmakademie.de> <40A0F66F.8040507@redh.com> Message-ID: <40A10D5A.8000305@avtechpulse.com> Consider BincIMAP too. It is very simple to configure. http://bincimap.org/. - Mike Doug Brott wrote: > G?tz Reinicke wrote: > >> >> Anyway, is dovecot a better choice [than WU-IMAP]? From pmatilai at welho.com Tue May 11 17:27:58 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:27:58 +0300 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <1084296478.2833.22.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:16, Sean Bruno wrote: > Full text of the release here: > http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html > > Any chance of getting this included in FC2? Far too late for FC2, by 14th May when they're releasing the source FC2 should be available for mirrors to sync, to be released on 17th. But this is certainly great news! I'd expect it to find it's way into fedora.us and such before long... - Panu - From alan at redhat.com Tue May 11 17:30:31 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:30:31 -0400 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 10:16:10AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > Full text of the release here: > http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html > > Any chance of getting this included in FC2? Might be a teeny bit late 8) OTOH you can have a race to see if it can be packaged and on fedora.us the same day FC2 is out. In general "Can x be in FC2" questions are now "Can x be in FC3 and/or fedora.us". It isnt practical to change much very close to release and part of the pre-release time is export paperwork, feeding mirrors et From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 11 17:33:35 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:33:35 -0400 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa79104051110331fc315aa@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 11 May 2004 13:30:31 -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > In general "Can x be in FC2" questions are now "Can x be in FC3 and/or > fedora.us". It isnt practical to change much very close to release and > part of the pre-release time is export paperwork, feeding mirrors et Damn... you mean all the work i've been doing to get a kerbrerized xsnow package into fc2 is all wasted effort? -jef"if only I head read the schedule"spaleta From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 11 17:36:40 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:36:40 -0400 Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity In-Reply-To: <33140.66.47.66.178.1084292780.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> References: <33140.66.47.66.178.1084292780.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> Message-ID: <604aa79104051110367e9a0da1@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:26:20 -0700 (PDT), Billy Charlton > Ok I see that the image area is large, but the file is only 200k. It > would be a nice enhancement if Nautilus could cancel the preview if the > image size is larger than (x). The current 3Mb file size option doesn't > seem to catch this case. I hope you have offered this file up as a test case for upstream to benchmark against. Hell, this image might end up in a standardized battery of performance tests for tiff functionality somewhere for general development usage. -jef"9 out of 10 helens agree, nothing beats a good pair of shoes"spaleta From michal at harddata.com Tue May 11 17:37:58 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:37:58 -0600 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <1084295487.4898.7.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org>; from pri.rhl2@iadonisi.to on Tue, May 11, 2004 at 01:11:27PM -0400 References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> <7346.142.167.72.118.1084286154.squirrel@mail.ceimaine.org> <20040511104908.A20601@mail.harddata.com> <1084295487.4898.7.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <20040511113758.B20601@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 01:11:27PM -0400, Paul Iadonisi wrote: > Cyrus imapd is overkill and overly complex for small installations > but highly suitable, IMO, for larger installations. I agree; but what Chris wrote in another thread about driving a truck was pretty to the point. As a matter of fact a while ago I was taking care about some cyrus server so I have some idea what I am talking about. If you are doing these things everyday then you are learning quickly tricks of a trade, and indiosyncratic ways various things are handled, and you can even appreciate nice things you got in the deal. But if you need to manipulate a one mailbox once in a blue moon this becomes a headache of _major_ proportions with substantial possibilities of a screwup. Michal From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Tue May 11 17:39:55 2004 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:39:55 -0700 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084296478.2833.22.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084296478.2833.22.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <1084297195.21296.8.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Actually, the date is erroneous as the tar ball is available now if you go and grab it...I have built and installed in on FC1 and will try it out on FC2T3 tonight... On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 10:27, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:16, Sean Bruno wrote: > > Full text of the release here: > > http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html > > > > Any chance of getting this included in FC2? > > Far too late for FC2, by 14th May when they're releasing the source FC2 > should be available for mirrors to sync, to be released on 17th. > > But this is certainly great news! I'd expect it to find it's way into > fedora.us and such before long... > > - Panu - -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 From si at bananas.hopto.org Tue May 11 17:49:40 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 18:49:40 +0100 Subject: Anaconda In-Reply-To: <20040511170110.9BEE773B32@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <00ef01c43780$5594c050$f901a8c0@bananas.hopto.org> Is there any way to make anaconda read a different module-info file? I have altered it to include a module that was missed and have put it on floppy. Can I read it from floppy or is there a way of restarting the installer after I have copied the file across, as every time I have tried copying it across it doesn't show in the module list! Thanks, From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Tue May 11 17:50:28 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, ForrestX) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:50:28 -0700 Subject: getnotincomps.py, rebuild question, and where is getfullcomps.py In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF72@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF72@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> Message-ID: <1084297827.32618.62.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 09:49, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > I am starting a build environment for FC2 and using an FC2test 3 system to > test with. One thing I noticed is that getfullcomps.py > is not part of the comps-extras. Instead all I get is getnotincomps.py and > whichcd.py. > > All i found searching archives is a link to a version change. > > Where is getfullcomps.py ? It was removed because it was no longer needed. It would create the dependency list, which is now created on-the-fly. It did have the nice side-effect of showing you which dependencies were missing. > If it is no longer part of the distribution, would someone help me with > getnotincomps.py? I am having trouble getting the script to work. > the directory structure that contains all 3 cd's (not the 4th one yet) > /home/FC2/ > fedora-load/ > i386/ > Fedora/ > images/ > isolinux/ > .....cd contents > > getnotincomps.py has the following usage: /path/to/tree arch [basepath] > I have tried multiple combinations on the above parameters but always get a > python error complaining about it not finding the hdlist > What am I doing incorrectly to make this script work? You should do this: ./getnotincomps.py /home/FC2/fedora-load i386 Make sure that you have the base/ files in /home/FC2/fedora-load/Fedora. However, getnotincomps.py does not do what getfullcomps.py did for me: check dependencies. getnotincomps.py just--well, I haven't really figured out what it does :o( It looks like it tries to print out dependencies, but it gets hung on aspell-sv for some reason. Forrest From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue May 11 17:55:15 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora and 4GB of Memory. In-Reply-To: <200405111721.i4BHLaGh020045@orion.dwf.com> References: Message from "William Hooper" of "Tue, 11 May 2004 08:42:37 EDT." <1307.12.29.16.103.1084279357.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <200405111721.i4BHLaGh020045@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <3398.12.29.16.103.1084298115.squirrel@12.29.16.103> reg at dwf.com said: >> >> reg at dwf.com said: >> [snip] >> > While running interactively, all the interesting fields at the top >> > (like Mem) are BLANK. >> > Stopping it, still blank. >> > BUT, if I use the mouse to copy the top of the 'top' display >> > somewhere else, (like this message), >> > then the fields are filled in with what appear to be >> > correct values. >> > STRANGE. >> > Ive NEVER seen anything like that before. >> [snip] >> >> Verify that your terminal is set to display bold characters correctly. >> IIRC the new version of top displays this info in bold. >> >> -- > > Seems that should be an X11 thing not a terminal thing. > What could there possibly be in the terminal (or do you mean xterm) > that has to do with displaying bold characters??? Most (all?) terminal emulators can adjust the colors, even without X11. I just brought it up in the case that you had changed the background color and missed the bold color. As an example, I use PuTTY as an SSH client, but change the background to be white. If you just change the background and foreground colors, you miss the "bold" because it is white on white. -- William Hooper From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Tue May 11 17:57:26 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, ForrestX) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:57:26 -0700 Subject: Kickstart Failure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084298245.32618.66.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 10:00, Joe Robertson wrote: > My settings for at-3.1.8-52 are 644. > > I don't have any problems if I'm installing a minimal install > interactively - just with kickstart. Does at-3.1.8-52 get installed with your minimal install? If no, have you tried to install it on your minimal system via NFS? Have you tried to verify the integrity--`rpm -Vp at-3.1.8-52.i386.rpm`? Forrest From nadiizu at earthlink.net Tue May 11 18:00:54 2004 From: nadiizu at earthlink.net (Nadeem Bitar) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:00:54 -0700 Subject: yum/apt repositories Message-ID: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> Which repositories are available for Fedora Core 2 Test3? From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Tue May 11 18:02:29 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:02:29 -0500 Subject: Bug in SCSI ioctl? (Was: OT - Journaling File Systems?) Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E388@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> I am still trying to switch off the write cache on the serial ATA drives. I first tried removing the scsi check from hdparms to allow the -W flag to be passed to a scsi device. I got a "Invalid Argument" error back from it. I then tried the sg_utils and I couldn't get them to work either (I can't remember now how they failed). So finally I took some code from both the hdparm and sg_utils and made the following little program (note I left out the #includes): int main() { int fd; int result; unsigned char args[4] = {WIN_SETFEATURES,0,0x82,0}; fd = open("/dev/sda", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK); if (fd < 0) { perror("/dev/sda"); exit(errno); } result = ioctl(fd, SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND, &args); if (result) { perror(" SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND(setcache) failed"); } else { printf("OK!"); } close(fd); return result; } When I run it I get the same result as with hdparms: "Invalid Argument". So I started digging further into the problem and I have found where it fails and gets rejected. It's in the /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/scsi_ioctl.c file. In the scsi_cmd_ioctl routine, in the SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND case it casts the arguments to (Scsi_Ioctl_Command *) and passes it to the sg_scsi_ioctl routine (which is also in the same scsi_ioctl.c file). One of the first things that sg_scsi_ioctl does is read the inlen and outlen from the Scsi_Ioctl_Command structure and verifies they are smaller than the page size. It appears to me that the arguments are not a Scsi_Ioctl_Command structure. I printk'ed out the inlen and outlen that is read and they are 8 and 5 some odd megabytes. So then I did a copy_from_user and printed the arguments and they are the original args that I passed in: { EF, 00, 82, 00, ... }. My guess is that casting those arguments to Scsi_Ioctl_Command is wrong. But then I could be completely wrong, I don't have the big picture. I know this is all off topic for this list, but I don't know how to proceed from here. Since I don't understand what all should be happening in the code, I don't know if I should start stirring around trying to get it to work? Is there a kernel list that I should post to? Thanks -Scott -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:05 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: OT - Journaling File Systems? On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 03:50:28PM -0500, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > > Unfortunately the drive I have right now is a Serial ATA so FC2 > treats it as a SCSI drive and hdparm won't let me change the > write cache. I'm trying to dig up a regular IDE drive to test > it on. Is there any way to change it on a SCSI drive? Some of the scsi generic tools using /dev/sg can set the mode page bits that control caching. Nothing Fedora ships however. Also some scsi controllers can set it at bios time. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Tue May 11 18:04:50 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, ForrestX) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:04:50 -0700 Subject: getnotincomps.py, rebuild question, and where is getfullcomps.py In-Reply-To: <1084297827.32618.62.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF72@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> <1084297827.32618.62.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> Message-ID: <1084298690.32618.68.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 10:50, Taylor, ForrestX wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 09:49, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > > I am starting a build environment for FC2 and using an FC2test 3 system to > > test with. One thing I noticed is that getfullcomps.py > > is not part of the comps-extras. Instead all I get is getnotincomps.py and > > whichcd.py. > > > > All i found searching archives is a link to a version change. > > > > Where is getfullcomps.py ? > > It was removed because it was no longer needed. It would create the > dependency list, which is now created on-the-fly. It did have the nice > side-effect of showing you which dependencies were missing. > > > If it is no longer part of the distribution, would someone help me with > > getnotincomps.py? I am having trouble getting the script to work. > > the directory structure that contains all 3 cd's (not the 4th one yet) > > /home/FC2/ > > fedora-load/ > > i386/ > > Fedora/ > > images/ > > isolinux/ > > .....cd contents > > > > getnotincomps.py has the following usage: /path/to/tree arch [basepath] > > I have tried multiple combinations on the above parameters but always get a > > python error complaining about it not finding the hdlist > > What am I doing incorrectly to make this script work? > > You should do this: > > ./getnotincomps.py /home/FC2/fedora-load i386 > > Make sure that you have the base/ files in /home/FC2/fedora-load/Fedora. > > However, getnotincomps.py does not do what getfullcomps.py did for me: > check dependencies. getnotincomps.py just--well, I haven't really > figured out what it does :o( It looks like it tries to print out > dependencies, but it gets hung on aspell-sv for some reason. Oops, I usually patch anaconda, so the above line should be: ./getnotincomps.py /home/FC2/fedora-load i386 Fedora/base Forrest -- From feliciano.matias at free.fr Tue May 11 18:06:34 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:06:34 +0200 Subject: yum/apt repositories In-Reply-To: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> References: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> Message-ID: <1084298794.10697.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mar 11/05/2004 ? 20:00, Nadeem Bitar a ?crit : > Which repositories are available for Fedora Core 2 Test3? > http://fedora.us/ http://rpm.livna.org/ From cbyam at virginia.edu Tue May 11 18:19:00 2004 From: cbyam at virginia.edu (Chuck Byam) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:19:00 -0400 Subject: valgrind on FC2 (undefined symbol: __libc_accept) In-Reply-To: <200405110729.55655.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200405110729.55655.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <40A11914.9050605@virginia.edu> Neal Becker wrote: > WARNING: Unsanitized content follows. > Anyone successfully build/install valgrind on FC2? I just tried. I grabbed > the current tar, which includes a .spec. I had to add a little to the .spec > because they forgot to package a couple of headers. It built OK, but doesn't > work. Here's what I got: > > valgrind ./TestTurbo > ./TestTurbo: error while loading shared > libraries: /usr/lib/valgrind/valgrind.so: undefined symbol: __libc_accept > > Any clues? I've been unable to get any version of valgrind to work. I either get the error you describe or it simply segfaults on run. I'd be interested in any clues as well. I'll post something on their list as well. -- Chuck From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue May 11 18:25:04 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:25:04 +0200 Subject: yum/apt repositories In-Reply-To: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> References: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> Message-ID: <20040511202504.02035639.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:00:54 -0700, Nadeem Bitar wrote: > Which repositories are available for Fedora Core 2 Test3? http://www.fedoratracker.org -- check which support FC2T3. http://fedora.us and http://rpm.livna.org do, but not all packages have been rebuilt for the test releases. From Greg.King at lmit.com Tue May 11 18:29:32 2004 From: Greg.King at lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:29:32 -0500 Subject: getnotincomps.py, rebuild question, and where is getfullcomps .py Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF75@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> I dont get a hang but i do get File "/usr/share/comps-extras/getnotincomps.py", line 58, in ? main() File "/usr/share/comps-extras/getnotincomps.py", line 47, in main for pkg in comps.packages[name].dependencies: KeyError: 'aspell-sv' Which in my expert analysis leads to the following conclusion: I dont have a clue to what that means :) Time to go googling (but if anyone does know then please reply). -Greg -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Taylor, ForrestX Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:05 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: getnotincomps.py, rebuild question, and where is getfullcomps.py [cutting] > > However, getnotincomps.py does not do what getfullcomps.py did for me: > check dependencies. getnotincomps.py just--well, I haven't really > figured out what it does :o( It looks like it tries to print out > dependencies, but it gets hung on aspell-sv for some reason. Oops, I usually patch anaconda, so the above line should be: ./getnotincomps.py /home/FC2/fedora-load i386 Fedora/base Forrest -- -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From jrobertson at convera.com Tue May 11 18:33:31 2004 From: jrobertson at convera.com (Joe Robertson) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:33:31 -0700 Subject: Kickstart Failure Message-ID: Forrest, I checked on a minimal install system and it reports it as having been installed. Here is the results: $ rpm -q at at-3.1.8-52 On my PXE Boot system (where the installs get their NFS shares) I got the following output: [root at fed root]# rpm -Vp /pxe/fc2-3/Fedora/RPMS/at-3.1.8-52.i386.rpm /etc/security/selinux/src/policy/file_contexts/file_contexts: No such file or directory Unsatisfied dependencies for at-3.1.8-52: config(at) = 3.1.8-52 .......T c /etc/at.deny .......T c /etc/rc.d/init.d/atd S.5....T /usr/bin/at .......T /usr/bin/batch S.5....T /usr/sbin/atd .......T /usr/sbin/atrun .......T d /usr/share/man/man1/at.1.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man5/at.allow.5.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man8/atd.8.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man8/atrun.8.gz [root at fed root]# Joe > -----Original Message----- > From: Taylor, ForrestX [mailto:forrestx.taylor at intel.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:57 AM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: RE: Kickstart Failure > > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 10:00, Joe Robertson wrote: > > My settings for at-3.1.8-52 are 644. > > > > I don't have any problems if I'm installing a minimal install > > interactively - just with kickstart. > > Does at-3.1.8-52 get installed with your minimal install? If > no, have you tried to install it on your minimal system via > NFS? Have you tried to verify the integrity--`rpm -Vp > at-3.1.8-52.i386.rpm`? > > Forrest > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From nadiizu at earthlink.net Tue May 11 18:42:22 2004 From: nadiizu at earthlink.net (Nadeem Bitar) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:42:22 -0700 Subject: yum/apt repositories In-Reply-To: <20040511202504.02035639.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> <20040511202504.02035639.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <1084300942.6952.37.camel@kirika> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:25 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:00:54 -0700, Nadeem Bitar wrote: > > > Which repositories are available for Fedora Core 2 Test3? > > http://www.fedoratracker.org -- check which support FC2T3. None support FC2T3 according to the search results. > http://fedora.us and http://rpm.livna.org do, but not all packages > have been rebuilt for the test releases. > Both repositories do not have any of the interesting packages. I usually get my packages from dag, freshrpms, or Matt at http://people.ecsc.co.uk/~matt/repository.html I guess I have to do manual installation for now. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From rhally at mindspring.com Tue May 11 18:45:57 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:45:57 -0400 Subject: cron fails to load after upgrade to FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084283234.6503.4.camel@hallucination.pza.net.au> References: <1084283234.6503.4.camel@hallucination.pza.net.au> Message-ID: <40A11F65.1060008@mindspring.com> Phil Anderson wrote: > I just updated one of my FC1 boxes to FC2T3 (and updated), and cron is > having serious problems! It starts up, but fails to load the crontab, > or anything in the cron.d directory. > > May 11 23:17:35 harry crond[6682]: (system_u) getfilecon FAILED > (/etc/crontab) > May 11 23:17:35 harry crond[6682]: (system_u) getfilecon FAILED > (/etc/cron.d/clamav-update) > > Possibly a SELinux problem? I'm just using the default SELinux settings > (disabled?). No selinux kernel boot parameters, and the file > /etc/sysconfig/selinux doesn't exist. > > Any ideas? Or is this one for bugzilla? > > Thanks, > Phil > > Looks like a bug to me (possibly in init not handling the non-existence of /etc/sysconfig/selinux correctly). A workaround may be to create the /etc/sysconfig/selinux file with the contents "SELINUX=disabled" (no quotes). HTH Richard Hally From markmc at redhat.com Tue May 11 17:05:47 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 18:05:47 +0100 Subject: valgrind on FC2 (undefined symbol: __libc_accept) In-Reply-To: <200405110729.55655.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200405110729.55655.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1084295146.3234.76.camel@laptop> Hey, On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:29, Neal Becker wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anyone successfully build/install valgrind on FC2? I just tried. I grabbed > the current tar, which includes a .spec. I had to add a little to the .spec > because they forgot to package a couple of headers. It built OK, but doesn't > work. Here's what I got: > > valgrind ./TestTurbo > ./TestTurbo: error while loading shared > libraries: /usr/lib/valgrind/valgrind.so: undefined symbol: __libc_accept > > Any clues? Caolan and Colin have both seen this and is apparently caused be something which changed in FC2 in the last couple of weeks. That's all I have, sorry. Cheers, Mark. From lynn at garlic.com Tue May 11 18:53:00 2004 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:53:00 -0600 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of memory In-Reply-To: <20040511180110.065BB74C4A@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040511180110.065BB74C4A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084301580.11064.11.camel@lhwlinux> > From the kernel, I assume that is FC2T3. > The machine I am working on is FC2T1, tho I dont know wny that should > make a difference. Oh, well, at least its fixed. well, possibly being able to view what top displays ... but there is still why it isn't showing 4gigs. same kernel on 1gig machine ... top will show 1gig .... but on a 4gig machine ... the various monitors and displays all come up short (not just top). -- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ From James.Edwards at med.ge.com Tue May 11 19:07:52 2004 From: James.Edwards at med.ge.com (Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces)) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:07:52 -0500 Subject: Bug in SCSI ioctl? (Was: OT - Journaling File Systems?) Message-ID: <1F6D1D1660975A4887628A011443A1BC0305E38C@uswaumsx13medge.med.ge.com> My appologies for replying to my own e-mail. I have found and subscribed to the linux-scsi mailing list at kernel.org (as listed in the /usr/src/linux/MAINTAINERS file). I am currently looking through the archives to see if I can find anything there. I know I should have RTFM first... -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:02 PM To: 'For testers of Fedora Core development releases' Subject: Bug in SCSI ioctl? (Was: OT - Journaling File Systems?) I am still trying to switch off the write cache on the serial ATA drives. I first tried removing the scsi check from hdparms to allow the -W flag to be passed to a scsi device. I got a "Invalid Argument" error back from it. I then tried the sg_utils and I couldn't get them to work either (I can't remember now how they failed). So finally I took some code from both the hdparm and sg_utils and made the following little program (note I left out the #includes): int main() { int fd; int result; unsigned char args[4] = {WIN_SETFEATURES,0,0x82,0}; fd = open("/dev/sda", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK); if (fd < 0) { perror("/dev/sda"); exit(errno); } result = ioctl(fd, SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND, &args); if (result) { perror(" SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND(setcache) failed"); } else { printf("OK!"); } close(fd); return result; } When I run it I get the same result as with hdparms: "Invalid Argument". So I started digging further into the problem and I have found where it fails and gets rejected. It's in the /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/scsi_ioctl.c file. In the scsi_cmd_ioctl routine, in the SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND case it casts the arguments to (Scsi_Ioctl_Command *) and passes it to the sg_scsi_ioctl routine (which is also in the same scsi_ioctl.c file). One of the first things that sg_scsi_ioctl does is read the inlen and outlen from the Scsi_Ioctl_Command structure and verifies they are smaller than the page size. It appears to me that the arguments are not a Scsi_Ioctl_Command structure. I printk'ed out the inlen and outlen that is read and they are 8 and 5 some odd megabytes. So then I did a copy_from_user and printed the arguments and they are the original args that I passed in: { EF, 00, 82, 00, ... }. My guess is that casting those arguments to Scsi_Ioctl_Command is wrong. But then I could be completely wrong, I don't have the big picture. I know this is all off topic for this list, but I don't know how to proceed from here. Since I don't understand what all should be happening in the code, I don't know if I should start stirring around trying to get it to work? Is there a kernel list that I should post to? Thanks -Scott -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:05 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: OT - Journaling File Systems? On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 03:50:28PM -0500, Edwards, Scott (MED, Kelly IT Resouces) wrote: > > Unfortunately the drive I have right now is a Serial ATA so FC2 > treats it as a SCSI drive and hdparm won't let me change the > write cache. I'm trying to dig up a regular IDE drive to test > it on. Is there any way to change it on a SCSI drive? Some of the scsi generic tools using /dev/sg can set the mode page bits that control caching. Nothing Fedora ships however. Also some scsi controllers can set it at bios time. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From billy at trigby.com Tue May 11 19:19:23 2004 From: billy at trigby.com (Billy Charlton) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: GTK Save dialog - creating folder broken Message-ID: <35996.66.47.66.178.1084303163.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> FC2 Test 3 with latest updates: The new GTK save dialog doesn't refresh the list of folders after choosing "Create Folder". The folder gets created but I have to navigate out of the folder and then back to it before it's visible. Try Epiphany or GEdit to reproduce. Incidentally why don't apps like GIMP, Gnumeric and Abiword use the new dialog yet? Isn't GIMP the testbed for the new GTK? Strange. -Billy From pmatilai at welho.com Tue May 11 19:47:54 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:47:54 +0300 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084304874.20818.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:30, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 10:16:10AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > Full text of the release here: > > http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html > > > > Any chance of getting this included in FC2? > > Might be a teeny bit late 8) OTOH you can have a race to see if it can be > packaged and on fedora.us the same day FC2 is out. Beginnings of a package at: http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/SRPMS.fdr/ximian-connector-1.4.7-0.fdr.1.src.rpm Installs and removes, Evo sees the thing but it gives the same OAF error on startup as in here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110287 Don't have an Exchange server at home anyway so further testing/debugging will have to wait till tomorrow, if somebody wants to find out why it's failing feel free... - Panu - From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Tue May 11 19:54:15 2004 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:54:15 -0700 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084304874.20818.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084304874.20818.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <1084305254.21990.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> It is failing due to where the "install" is putting all of it's shared libraries: /usr/lib/evolution/1.4/ You can override this setting in the "configure", set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include this, or make a series of soft-links to the libraries in /usr/lib On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:30, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 10:16:10AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > Full text of the release here: > > > http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html > > > > > > Any chance of getting this included in FC2? > > > > Might be a teeny bit late 8) OTOH you can have a race to see if it can be > > packaged and on fedora.us the same day FC2 is out. > > Beginnings of a package at: > http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/SRPMS.fdr/ximian-connector-1.4.7-0.fdr.1.src.rpm > Installs and removes, Evo sees the thing but it gives the same OAF error > on startup as in here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110287 > > Don't have an Exchange server at home anyway so further > testing/debugging will have to wait till tomorrow, if somebody wants to > find out why it's failing feel free... > > - Panu - -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 From julo at altern.org Tue May 11 19:54:54 2004 From: julo at altern.org (Julien Olivier) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:54:54 +0100 Subject: Laptop suspend on FC2 test3 Message-ID: <1084305294.3597.12.camel@julien> Hi list. I'm trying to get suspend to work on my laptop running FC2 test3, but I have a few problems... First, I tried to right-click on the battery charge monitor and click on "suspend computer". But it fails with the following error message: "The Suspend command '/usr/bin/apm -s' was unsuccessful.". Then, I tried to run /usr/bin/apm -s, but I get "No APM support in kernel". Finally, I tried the following: echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep And this works. It successfully suspends my laptop. But the problem is that un-suspending it doesn't work. All I get is a black screen. Pressing CTRL-ALT-SUPPR doesn't reboot my computer. CTRL-ALT-F1 doesn't switch to text mode. It seems just dead... So, now, my questions: is there anything I should do before or after running the "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep" to get my computer running after un-suspending it ? Is there a better way to suspend/un-suspend my computer ? How can I have my computer auto-suspend when I close the screen ? Thanks a lot for any advice. -- Julien Olivier From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Tue May 11 19:56:59 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:56:59 +0200 Subject: yum/apt repositories In-Reply-To: <1084300942.6952.37.camel@kirika> References: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> <20040511202504.02035639.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084300942.6952.37.camel@kirika> Message-ID: <20040511215659.72e48eca.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:42:22 -0700, Nadeem Bitar wrote: > Both repositories do not have any of the interesting packages. Which packages are so interesting that they should be included? From pmatilai at welho.com Tue May 11 20:02:06 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:02:06 +0300 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084305254.21990.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084304874.20818.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084305254.21990.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <1084305726.29718.2.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 22:54, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > Beginnings of a package at: > > http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/SRPMS.fdr/ximian-connector-1.4.7-0.fdr.1.src.rpm > > Installs and removes, Evo sees the thing but it gives the same OAF error > > on startup as in here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110287 > > > > Don't have an Exchange server at home anyway so further > > testing/debugging will have to wait till tomorrow, if somebody wants to > > find out why it's failing feel free... > It is failing due to where the "install" is putting all of it's shared > libraries: /usr/lib/evolution/1.4/ > > You can override this setting in the "configure", set your > LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include this, or make a series of soft-links to the > libraries in /usr/lib I found that hint on from google as well but doesn't seem to be the cause in this case, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't help for me at least. - Panu - From chris at menzel.com Tue May 11 20:09:08 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:09:08 +0200 Subject: Laptop suspend on FC2 test3 In-Reply-To: <1084305294.3597.12.camel@julien> References: <1084305294.3597.12.camel@julien> Message-ID: <1084306147.2510.33.camel@stage.menzel.com> On Di, 2004-05-11 at 21:54, Julien Olivier wrote: > Then, I tried to run /usr/bin/apm -s, but I get "No APM support in > kernel". > Boot the kernel with "acpi=off", then you have the apm functionality back, at least it works for me. Regards Christian From holt at sgi.com Tue May 11 20:24:51 2004 From: holt at sgi.com (Robin Holt) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:24:51 -0500 Subject: Problem with gconf not saving setting on NFS home directory. Message-ID: <20040511202451.GA27466@lnx-holt.americas.sgi.com> If I do make basic changes to my configuration settings (change # of workspaces for example), the changes get written to the .gconf directory of my NFS mounted home. Upon log out and log back in, the changes are not restored. I have tried creating a local account and the settings save/restore fine. I have also taken the .gconf directory from the local machine and copied them with file ownership fixups over to the NFS home directory and again the settings are not restored. Does anybody have suggestions of where to look? I tried to run gconfd with the GCONF_DEBUG_OUTPUT environment variable set. The only way I have been able to do that is after the login was already complete. I am not sure whether I should see query events in the output, but I do not. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Robin Holt From julo at altern.org Tue May 11 20:28:59 2004 From: julo at altern.org (Julien Olivier) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:28:59 +0100 Subject: Laptop suspend on FC2 test3 In-Reply-To: <1084306147.2510.33.camel@stage.menzel.com> References: <1084305294.3597.12.camel@julien> <1084306147.2510.33.camel@stage.menzel.com> Message-ID: <1084307339.3418.3.camel@julien> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 21:09, Christian Menzel wrote: > On Di, 2004-05-11 at 21:54, Julien Olivier wrote: > > > Then, I tried to run /usr/bin/apm -s, but I get "No APM support in > > kernel". > > > > Boot the kernel with "acpi=off", > then you have the apm functionality back, > at least it works for me. > I've added acpi=off in grub.conf and rebooted. Running "apm -s" seems to suspend my laptop (the screen goes blank, music stops), but after about 3 seconds it un-suspends itself, and Rhythmbox crashes. -- Julien Olivier From alexl at stofanet.dk Tue May 11 20:35:20 2004 From: alexl at stofanet.dk (Alex Thomsen Leth) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:35:20 +0200 Subject: autopackage. Message-ID: <1084307720.19952.1.camel@simba.lion> is it possible to include this great autopackage tool in fc3 >> > http://autopackage.org/index.html -- Alex Thomsen Leth From shrek-m at gmx.de Tue May 11 20:34:08 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:34:08 +0200 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <40A0E80C.6010809@filmakademie.de> References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> <40A0E80C.6010809@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <40A138C0.6080608@gmx.de> G?tz Reinicke wrote: > Sorry! I found the Releasenotes for FC2T3 and that the imap package is > renamed! renamed? my understanding since fc2t1 is that "imap" was removed and replaced with "cyrus-imapd" http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en Packages Removed The following packages have been removed from Fedora Core 1.92 Test 3: [...] o imap -- Replaced by cyrus-imapd "dovecot", i had less problems with "imap", but both are ok for my needs. -- shrek-m From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Tue May 11 20:38:19 2004 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:38:19 -0700 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084305726.29718.2.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084304874.20818.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084305254.21990.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084305726.29718.2.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <1084307899.21990.3.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Hmmm...All three of these things work on my machine(FC1). Try running the exchange component directly from the command line and see what the specific error is...maybe FC2 has an unknown issue... On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 13:02, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 22:54, Sean Bruno wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > Beginnings of a package at: > > > http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/SRPMS.fdr/ximian-connector-1.4.7-0.fdr.1.src.rpm > > > Installs and removes, Evo sees the thing but it gives the same OAF error > > > on startup as in here: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110287 > > > > > > Don't have an Exchange server at home anyway so further > > > testing/debugging will have to wait till tomorrow, if somebody wants to > > > find out why it's failing feel free... > > It is failing due to where the "install" is putting all of it's shared > > libraries: /usr/lib/evolution/1.4/ > > > > You can override this setting in the "configure", set your > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include this, or make a series of soft-links to the > > libraries in /usr/lib > > I found that hint on from google as well but doesn't seem to be the > cause in this case, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't help for me at > least. > > - Panu - -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 From pmatilai at welho.com Tue May 11 20:47:40 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:47:40 +0300 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084305726.29718.2.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084304874.20818.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084305254.21990.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084305726.29718.2.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <1084308459.14933.19.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 23:02, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 22:54, Sean Bruno wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > Beginnings of a package at: > > > http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/SRPMS.fdr/ximian-connector-1.4.7-0.fdr.1.src.rpm > > > Installs and removes, Evo sees the thing but it gives the same OAF error > > > on startup as in here: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110287 > > > > > > Don't have an Exchange server at home anyway so further > > > testing/debugging will have to wait till tomorrow, if somebody wants to > > > find out why it's failing feel free... > > It is failing due to where the "install" is putting all of it's shared > > libraries: /usr/lib/evolution/1.4/ > > > > You can override this setting in the "configure", set your > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include this, or make a series of soft-links to the > > libraries in /usr/lib > > I found that hint on from google as well but doesn't seem to be the > cause in this case, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't help for me at > least. Ok it was that path afterall, it was just some background process which didn't get the path set until I logged out and killed all the remaining gnome-processes. Now I just need to fix the package to deal with that.. - Panu - From rlopez at divrsystems.com Tue May 11 21:01:33 2004 From: rlopez at divrsystems.com (Ray Lopez) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:01:33 -0700 Subject: Yum problems Message-ID: <1084309293.2893.7.camel@webdev> Anyone else having this issue? [root at webdev rlopez]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - i386 - Base retrygrab() failed for: http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Thanks guys! Ray Lopez http://www.thedreaming.com From rkaa at netcom.no Tue May 11 21:02:09 2004 From: rkaa at netcom.no (rkaa at netcom.no) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:02:09 +0200 Subject: kernel-2.6.5-1.358 Oops'ed Message-ID: <138b391366be.1366be138b39@netcom.no> After toying around for almost 12 hours in a row I tried to "shutdown -h now" but kernel-2.6.5-1.358.i686.rpm said Oops and got stuck. Does the relevant output from /var/log/messages have any interest on this list? From baron at psych.upenn.edu Tue May 11 21:06:35 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:06:35 -0400 Subject: Yum problems In-Reply-To: <1084309293.2893.7.camel@webdev> References: <1084309293.2893.7.camel@webdev> Message-ID: <20040511210635.GA17486@psych> On 05/11/04 14:01, Ray Lopez wrote: >Anyone else having this issue? > >[root at webdev rlopez]# yum update >Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) >Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - i386 - Base >retrygrab() failed for: > http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info > Executing failover method >failover: out of servers to try >Error getting file >http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info >[Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Based on a previos message about this topic, I changed yum.conf as follows and was able to update a few packages. (The lines commented out were the originals.) But I don't think we're meant to be doing this at this point. [base] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-$releasever baseurl=http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.92/i386/RPMS.updates [updates-released] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-$releasever baseurl=http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.92/i386/RPMS.updates -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From awol at home.nl Tue May 11 21:16:54 2004 From: awol at home.nl (Alexander Volovics) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:16:54 +0200 Subject: what does this 'cdrom: open failed' message mean In-Reply-To: <40A10A8D.3050302@rincon.com> References: <20040510110313.GB2756@home.nl> <1084212307.5226.1.camel@littlePiet> <20040510192002.GA2515@home.nl> <1084261132.5229.1.camel@littlePiet> <40A10A8D.3050302@rincon.com> Message-ID: <20040511211654.GA2835@home.nl> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 10:17:01AM -0700, Bob Arendt wrote: > Peter Boy wrote: > >Am Mo, den 10.05.2004 schrieb Alexander Volovics um 21:20: > > > >>OK, I just now rebooted with a cd in the drive and the message > >>disappears. But why should I get the message in the first place. > >> > >>I have never seen it before. > > > >I don't know. Maybe you updated the software and the developer decided > >to add some messages to syslog. > I believe this expected behaviour, if the system tries to mount the > cdrom drive at boot. This will happen if there's an entry for the > cd drive in /etc/fstab. You can avoid this boot error by: > > 1) adding a "noauto" option to the /etc/fstab entry (man 5 fstab) I already have an 'noauto' entry in /etc/fstab (and autofs is running). So something else is wrong. I will lookup the relevant bootscript to see what is specified there. > 2) remove the /etc/fstab entry, and use autofs to mount it. > - chkconfig autofs on > - uncomment the "misc" entry in /etc/auto.master > - uncomment and verify the "cd" entry in /etc/auto.misc > accessing /misc/cd should automount the cd on demand, and > unmount if it's been idle for over 60 seconds. I will try this out tomorrow to see if it makes any difference (but it is not a solution I would care for). Thanks for the suggestions. Alexander From aoliva at redhat.com Tue May 11 21:18:27 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 11 May 2004 18:18:27 -0300 Subject: Fedora on italian magazine In-Reply-To: <20040511165140.GD13401@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084287818.2313.112.camel@ninjak> <20040511165140.GD13401@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On May 11, 2004, Alan Cox wrote: > The full text is on Fedora.redhat.com so read that but basically > - You can use the name to describe the exact FC images from Fedora Project > - You must warrant the media (ie offer replacements for bad disks) if you > charge for the Fedora project - If you distribute only the binaries, you must offer the sources somehow to comply with the GNU GPL, that governs the distribution of at least one package per binary CD. Pointing at fedora.redhat.com is not enough; it's *your* responsibility to ensure that people have access to the sources, you can't just hope Red Hat is going to keep it for the minimum of 3 years demanded by the GNU GPL. #include -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From billg at f-m.fm Tue May 11 21:19:33 2004 From: billg at f-m.fm (billg) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:19:33 -0400 Subject: Yum problems In-Reply-To: <1084309293.2893.7.camel@webdev> References: <1084309293.2893.7.camel@webdev> Message-ID: <1084310373.29297.196278878@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Tue, 11 May 2004 14:01:33 -0700, "Ray Lopez" said: > Anyone else having this issue? > > [root at webdev rlopez]# yum update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - i386 - Base > retrygrab() failed for: > http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info > Executing failover method > failover: out of servers to try > Error getting file > http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info > [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Look here in the archives: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01194.html From nadiizu at earthlink.net Tue May 11 21:32:20 2004 From: nadiizu at earthlink.net (Nadeem Bitar) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:32:20 -0700 Subject: yum/apt repositories In-Reply-To: <20040511215659.72e48eca.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> <20040511202504.02035639.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084300942.6952.37.camel@kirika> <20040511215659.72e48eca.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <1084311139.14889.9.camel@kirika> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 21:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:42:22 -0700, Nadeem Bitar wrote: > > > Both repositories do not have any of the interesting packages. > > Which packages are so interesting that they should be included? > > here are some of the packages that i use that are not available: gossip, inkscape, seahorse, straw, revelation, gdesklets beep-media-player, gnome-netstatus, xpad, firefox. kismet, quick-lounge-applet, stardict ... > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From pza at pza.net.au Tue May 11 22:10:57 2004 From: pza at pza.net.au (Phil Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:10:57 +1000 Subject: cron fails to load after upgrade to FC2 In-Reply-To: <40A11F65.1060008@mindspring.com> References: <1084283234.6503.4.camel@hallucination.pza.net.au> <40A11F65.1060008@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20040511221057.GA2575@harry.pza.net.au> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 02:45:57PM -0400, Richard Hally wrote: > A workaround may be to create the /etc/sysconfig/selinux file with the > contents "SELINUX=disabled" (no quotes). Thanks. This fixed it up. I'll put it in bugzilla, but as it is an upgrade issue, I guess it is too late for anything to be fixed! From shahms at shahms.com Tue May 11 22:11:02 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:11:02 -0700 Subject: yum/apt repositories In-Reply-To: <1084311139.14889.9.camel@kirika> References: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> <20040511202504.02035639.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084300942.6952.37.camel@kirika> <20040511215659.72e48eca.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084311139.14889.9.camel@kirika> Message-ID: <1084313462.3400.289.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> > here are some of the packages that i use that are not available: > > gossip, inkscape, seahorse, straw, revelation, gdesklets > beep-media-player, gnome-netstatus, xpad, firefox. kismet, > quick-lounge-applet, stardict ... straw is in Fedora Extras Testing firefox and inkscape are in Fedora Extras Stable gnome-netstatus and stardict are included in Fedora Core 2 revelation can be found in Dag's repository, but has largely been superseded by gnome-keyring kismet requires non-standard wireless modules; you're not likely to find it in any "Official" Fedora repository. Dag has it packaged with the required kernel modules, however. quick-lounge-applet is in Dag Wieers' repository. xpad, while not in any repository I could find, has RPMS and SRPMS on SourceForage (as does inkscape). That only leaves beep-media-player, which I couldn't find (in the 5 minutes I was looking). -- Shahms King From jon.homan.nospam at blueyonder.co.uk Tue May 11 22:16:10 2004 From: jon.homan.nospam at blueyonder.co.uk (Jon Homan) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:16:10 +0100 Subject: KDE & Windows modifier key Message-ID: <40A150AA.4010501@blueyonder.co.uk> Hi all, I have recently installed FC2T3, and cannot get the Windows key to be recognised as a modifier key in KDE. I am using a Dell D600 laptop, and the Windows key is recognised, but all it does it activate the KDE main menu. With FC1, I used to be able to select the 'KDE Default for 4 Modifier Keys' shortcut scheme in Control Panel => Regional & Accessibility => Keyboard Shortcuts. When I try this in with FC2T3, I get the message: This scheme requires the "Win" modifier key, which is not available on your keyboard layout. Do you wish to view it anyway? Looking on the Keyboard Shortcuts => Modifier Keys tab has the following list of modifiers: Shift shift Ctrl control Alt mod1 Win My xorg.conf has the following: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" EndSection I am pretty sure this is the same as it was for FC1, so I don't understand why it does not work now. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Jon Homan From billy at trigby.com Tue May 11 22:31:56 2004 From: billy at trigby.com (Billy Charlton) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity Message-ID: <44326.66.47.66.178.1084314716.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> > I hope you have offered this file up as a test case for upstream to benchmark > against. Hell, this image might end up in a standardized battery of > performance tests for tiff functionality somewhere for general > development usage. I'd happily offer this file as a test case. who do I talk to? Where is the Nautilus list hosted? (although this problem seems to affect more than just Nautilus.) Thanks, -Billy From don.raikes at oracle.com Tue May 11 22:43:34 2004 From: don.raikes at oracle.com (donald raikes) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:43:34 -0700 Subject: upgrade from fc1 to fc2-test3 /dev not accessible Message-ID: <200405112243.i4BMhZlU007396@rgmgw2.us.oracle.com> Hi all, I just did an upgrade from fc1 to fc2 test3 on my compaq deskpro-en with 512mb ram and 60gb drive. Now when I try to play any .wav files usingthe play command, I get /dev/dsp not found. I get the same message when I try to use minicom to check my dsl modem to make sure it is performing properly. only this time the message is /dev/ttyS0 not found. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wtogami at redhat.com Tue May 11 23:17:04 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:17:04 -1000 Subject: kernel-2.6.5-1.358 Oops'ed In-Reply-To: <138b391366be.1366be138b39@netcom.no> References: <138b391366be.1366be138b39@netcom.no> Message-ID: <40A15EF0.70009@redhat.com> rkaa at netcom.no wrote: > After toying around for almost 12 hours in a row I tried to "shutdown -h > now" but kernel-2.6.5-1.358.i686.rpm said Oops and got stuck. > > Does the relevant output from /var/log/messages have any interest on > this list? Please submit to Bugzilla the oops, and attach the full dmesg, lspci -n, and lspci -vvv. Warren From pza at pza.net.au Tue May 11 23:18:40 2004 From: pza at pza.net.au (Phil Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:18:40 +1000 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap In-Reply-To: <40A138C0.6080608@gmx.de> References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de> <40A0E80C.6010809@filmakademie.de> <40A138C0.6080608@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20040511231839.GB2575@harry.pza.net.au> I replaced my UW imap server with a dovecot server a while back, and here are things you need to take note of: - the ~/.mailboxes has been replaced with ~/mail/.subscriptsions - dovecot uses ~/mail for your base directory, whereas UW Imap requires you to specify the mail directory in the path. Dovecot requires no special configuration, and works perfectly in our small (30 user) environment. It handles multiple accesses to the same mailboxes, as long as it is by the same user. I.e. you can use evolution and squirrelmail at the same time. Phil On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 10:34:08PM +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > G?tz Reinicke wrote: > > >Sorry! I found the Releasenotes for FC2T3 and that the imap package is > >renamed! > > > renamed? > my understanding since fc2t1 is that "imap" was removed and replaced > with "cyrus-imapd" > > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en > > > Packages Removed > > The following packages have been removed from Fedora Core 1.92 Test 3: > > [...] > o imap -- Replaced by cyrus-imapd > > > > > "dovecot", i had less problems with "imap", but both are ok for my needs. > > -- > shrek-m > > > From katzj at redhat.com Tue May 11 23:26:49 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:26:49 -0400 Subject: rpm -e taking ages In-Reply-To: <1084098777.1815.14.camel@T7.linux> References: <1084098777.1815.14.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1084318009.6870.26.camel@bree.local.net> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 11:32 +0100, Paul wrote: > rpm -e kernel-2.6.5-1.315 kernel-source-2.6.5-1.315 > kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.315 This is due to the run of hardlink in the %postun of the kernel package to hardlink headers under /lib/modules From nadiizu at earthlink.net Wed May 12 00:21:46 2004 From: nadiizu at earthlink.net (Nadeem Bitar) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:21:46 -0700 Subject: yum/apt repositories In-Reply-To: <1084313462.3400.289.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> <20040511202504.02035639.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084300942.6952.37.camel@kirika> <20040511215659.72e48eca.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084311139.14889.9.camel@kirika> <1084313462.3400.289.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <1084321306.14889.12.camel@kirika> Shahms. i am aware that these packages are available on dag but currently dag repository doens't work on FC2T3 and my original question was for a FC2T3 yum repositories. On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 15:11 -0700, Shahms King wrote: > > here are some of the packages that i use that are not available: > > > > gossip, inkscape, seahorse, straw, revelation, gdesklets > > beep-media-player, gnome-netstatus, xpad, firefox. kismet, > > quick-lounge-applet, stardict ... > > straw is in Fedora Extras Testing > firefox and inkscape are in Fedora Extras Stable > gnome-netstatus and stardict are included in Fedora Core 2 > > revelation can be found in Dag's repository, but has largely been > superseded by gnome-keyring > > kismet requires non-standard wireless modules; you're not likely to find > it in any "Official" Fedora repository. Dag has it packaged with the > required kernel modules, however. > > quick-lounge-applet is in Dag Wieers' repository. > > xpad, while not in any repository I could find, has RPMS and SRPMS on > SourceForage (as does inkscape). > > That only leaves beep-media-player, which I couldn't find (in the 5 > minutes I was looking). > -- > Shahms King > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From wtogami at redhat.com Wed May 12 00:22:17 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:22:17 -1000 Subject: Dovecot Imap broken! (SegFault) In-Reply-To: <200405111300.45041.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <40A1014F.40502@redhat.com> <200405111300.45041.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <40A16E39.30500@redhat.com> Neal Becker wrote: > On Tuesday 11 May 2004 12:37 pm, Warren Togami wrote: > >>Neal D. Becker wrote: >> >>>After updating yesterday, I can no longer use Dovecot Imap: >>>Whatever change was made, it was not good. >>> >>>May 11 08:30:24 rpppc1 dovecot: child 16061 (imap) killed with signal 11 >> >>Arg... three patches from the author were applied in order to solve >>other bugs. Can you please send your /etc/dovecot.conf file? >> > http://people.redhat.com/wtogami/temp/ Please test the dovecot build here to see if it resolves your issue. I disabled the maildir related patch added in -4. I cannot do more without having more data, core dumps or tracebacks. Warren From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Wed May 12 00:29:09 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 02:29:09 +0200 Subject: Yum problems In-Reply-To: <20040511210635.GA17486@psych> References: <1084309293.2893.7.camel@webdev> <20040511210635.GA17486@psych> Message-ID: <20040512022909.6bd89714.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:06:35 -0400, Jonathan Baron wrote: > On 05/11/04 14:01, Ray Lopez wrote: > >Anyone else having this issue? > > > >[root at webdev rlopez]# yum update > >Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > >Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - i386 - Base > >retrygrab() failed for: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info > > Executing failover method > >failover: out of servers to try > >Error getting file > >http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-1.92/headers/header.info > >[Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > > Based on a previos message about this topic, I changed yum.conf > as follows and was able to update a few packages. (The lines > commented out were the originals.) But I don't think we're meant > to be doing this at this point. > > [base] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base > #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-$releasever > baseurl=http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.92/i386/RPMS.updates *Bzzzz* Now you're downloading from a mirror located on _Hawaii_. Please choose a different one which is much closer to your location in the network. See http://fedora.redhat.com on a list of mirrors. From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Wed May 12 00:25:26 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 02:25:26 +0200 Subject: yum/apt repositories In-Reply-To: <1084311139.14889.9.camel@kirika> References: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> <20040511202504.02035639.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084300942.6952.37.camel@kirika> <20040511215659.72e48eca.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084311139.14889.9.camel@kirika> Message-ID: <20040512022526.65269b47.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Tue, 11 May 2004 14:32:20 -0700, Nadeem Bitar wrote: > > Which packages are so interesting that they should be included? > > > > > > > here are some of the packages that i use that are not available: I ask because there's the possibility to submit package requests, so that interested packagers can take a look at most-wanted software and to prioritize any stuff that is popular and might be in the queue already. From zachw at termdex.com Wed May 12 01:36:50 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:36:50 -0400 Subject: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap References: <40A0E613.2040203@filmakademie.de><40A0E80C.6010809@filmakademie.de> <40A138C0.6080608@gmx.de> Message-ID: <007b01c437c1$9a61c110$6801a8c0@host4> That's from the release notes for 1.92. The release notes from FC2 (2.00) http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/RELEASE-NOTES-en.html say: Packages removed: imap - Replaced by dovecot Packages added: cyrus-imapd - Cyrus IMAP implementation So you get both, but my guess is that dovecot is the default. Just like sendmail is the default MTA but they also ship Postfix and Exim. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: Re: imap server - Dovecot or WU-imap > G?tz Reinicke wrote: > > > Sorry! I found the Releasenotes for FC2T3 and that the imap package is > > renamed! > > > renamed? > my understanding since fc2t1 is that "imap" was removed and replaced > with "cyrus-imapd" > > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en > > > Packages Removed > > The following packages have been removed from Fedora Core 1.92 Test 3: > > [...] > o imap -- Replaced by cyrus-imapd > > > > > "dovecot", i had less problems with "imap", but both are ok for my needs. > > -- > shrek-m > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From markf78 at yahoo.com Wed May 12 04:54:05 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity In-Reply-To: <20040511170110.F386673B7B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040512045405.38288.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- > > The images size (not file size) is huge: > > > > mustang:~/downloads> identify sfstreets.tif > > sfstreets.tif TIFF 11248x14484+0+0 PseudoClass 2c 8-bit 209.4kb 1.570u 0:02 > > > > That's like 164 times the area (in square pixels) of my monitor! > > > > I have no idea how to make those programs more efficient. Can you > > make do with a scaled down image? I scaled it down to 20% in the > > gimp and it is very readable at 2250x2897. I guess it depends on your > > application as to whether this is acceptable. > > > > With the scaled down image, things open up just fine and use a lot > > less memory. > > > > -David > > Ok I see that the image area is large, but the file is only 200k. It > would be a nice enhancement if Nautilus could cancel the preview if the > image size is larger than (x). The current 3Mb file size option doesn't > seem to catch this case. > > In the meanwhile I'll have to turn thumbnail previewing off, since I am > not supposed to modify the images. i'd goto http://bugzilla.gnome.org/simple-bug-guide.cgi and file this as a bug. i think you came across a case that the developers probably did not forsee. this should be resolved at some point to avoid the nasty memory usage. mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861 From drepper at redhat.com Wed May 12 05:28:09 2004 From: drepper at redhat.com (Ulrich Drepper) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:28:09 -0700 Subject: valgrind on FC2 (undefined symbol: __libc_accept) In-Reply-To: <200405110729.55655.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200405110729.55655.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <40A1B5E9.20008@redhat.com> Neal Becker wrote: > valgrind ./TestTurbo > ./TestTurbo: error while loading shared > libraries: /usr/lib/valgrind/valgrind.so: undefined symbol: __libc_accept Apparently valgrind uses libc-internal symbols which can change at any time. In this case some unused internal symbols went away. Complain to the valgrind people for using internal symbols. -- ? Ulrich Drepper ? Red Hat, Inc. ? 444 Castro St ? Mountain View, CA ? From aoliva at redhat.com Wed May 12 06:00:24 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 12 May 2004 03:00:24 -0300 Subject: rpm -e taking ages In-Reply-To: <1084318009.6870.26.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1084098777.1815.14.camel@T7.linux> <1084318009.6870.26.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: On May 11, 2004, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 11:32 +0100, Paul wrote: >> rpm -e kernel-2.6.5-1.315 kernel-source-2.6.5-1.315 >> kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.315 > This is due to the run of hardlink in the %postun of the kernel package > to hardlink headers under /lib/modules Err... Does hardlink really run after `rpm -e'? I can't see that it makes any sense. It sure does make sense to run it after installing new kernels, but after removing them?!? What am I missing? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From reg at dwf.com Wed May 12 06:13:19 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 00:13:19 -0600 Subject: 2.8 of 4GB Memory / Fedora (again) Message-ID: <200405120613.i4C6DJUo028269@orion.dwf.com> Im still searching for answers, and I still have some experiments to do, but this is such an odd number that perhaps someone will have some ideas. I have a new machine that I have been installing (with FC2T1,- I will restall with FC2 when its available next week). The machine is top of the line, Intel D875PBZ motherboard, Prescot 3.2GHz chip, two SATA drives, 4GB Memory, + ... The problem is that Linux (Fedora, above) is only seeing (reporting) 2.8 of the 4GB of memory. Thats from /proc/meminfo, free, top... I consider that a REALLY strange number. now Im SURE that the fellow that put the machine together checked what the BIOS said, but I havent, so thats on my list of things to do. I also intend to try to run memtest86 and see what it sees, but again I suspect that the fellow that put the machine together has already done a memory test. And then, out of desperation, I intend to pull the memory and replace it one chip at a time... But this number, 2.8GB out of 4GB just doesnt make any sense,- or rather it seems that it should be telling me something. I have another machine, same motherboard, but with only 1GB of memory, and it behaves as expected... So any Ideas??? Due to vacations/work schedules, Im not going to be able to 'get at' this machine again till next Tuesday, but any suggestions (solving the 2.8 of 4) puzzle would be appreciated... -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Wed May 12 06:42:01 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:42:01 -0700 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of memory In-Reply-To: <1084301580.11064.11.camel@lhwlinux> References: <20040511180110.065BB74C4A@hormel.redhat.com> <1084301580.11064.11.camel@lhwlinux> Message-ID: <20040512064201.GA30312@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 12:53:00PM -0600, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler > Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:53:00 -0600 > Subject: Re: Fedora and 4GB of memory > Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > > > From the kernel, I assume that is FC2T3. > > The machine I am working on is FC2T1, tho I dont know wny that should > > make a difference. Oh, well, at least its fixed. > > well, possibly being able to view what top displays ... but there is > still why it isn't showing 4gigs. same kernel on 1gig machine ... top > will show 1gig .... but on a 4gig machine ... the various monitors and > displays all come up short (not just top). What does /proc/meminfo tell: $ cat /proc/meminfo And what does /var/log/dmesg tell us. Since 4G is a magic overflow corner case number there is a potential for any number of arithmetic errors if all the values are not sized for 64 bits. The error could be in top, since top looks at /proc/meminfo we should be able to look at the raw data that top looks at and see if anything is lost in translation. Also look at /var/log/dmesg for clues. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From makoto at ki.nu Wed May 12 07:10:33 2004 From: makoto at ki.nu (Makoto Fujiwara) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 16:10:33 +0900 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash Message-ID: I have light weith Note PC, Panasonic CF-R1. This machine had several installation, RedHat 7.3, 8.0,9, FC1. All work fine. Starting FC2 test1, I belive, at test 2 and 3 for sure, the install kernel won't start. With installation CDROM, it boots to Boot screen, getting the prompt ---------------- [F1-Main][F2-Options][F3-General][F4-Kernel][F5-Rescue] boot: ---------------- (Either or linux text will give: Loading vmlinuz........... Loading initrd.img........ Uncompressing ... .. Blackout .. Reboot. On the other Celeron Desktop Machine, it boots with the same CDROM to the installer. The dmesg with FC1 is placed at http://www.ki.nu/~makoto/fc/ 13266 Apr 9 11:45 FC1-panasonic-dmesg 6856 May 12 15:57 FC1-panasonic-dmesg-1 (I don't exactly know the difference of the above two, but they are dmesg files with different occasions.) Please advise how to trace down the point of problem, thanks a lot, (I have tested either with and without eth1 wireless LAN card.) --- Makoto Fujiwara, Chiba, Japan, Narita Airport and Disneyland prefecture. From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Wed May 12 07:29:24 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:29:24 +0200 Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC2 - which imapserver will be there after update Message-ID: <40A1D254.3020107@filmakademie.de> Hi, thanks for all replies to my posting about dovecot and wuimap! At the moment our imapserver (400 Users +-, 20 GB Mails) is a plain fc1 installation with the default configuration for imap. So if I do an update from fc1 to fc2 - will the installprocess update my wuimapd to cyrus or dovecot or will it be untuched? If you (the Release notes) say, imap is replaced by cyrusimapd, there should be an upgrade/migration plan - or better it would be greate if there is one :-)) Thanks for any tips and hints! Regrads G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From hes at xinit.se Wed May 12 07:20:26 2004 From: hes at xinit.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Hans_Eric_Sandstr=F6m?=) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:20:26 +0200 Subject: Reiserfs and quota (FC2 test2) References: <5870.64.223.201.130.1080836891.squirrel@mail.ceimaine.org> <00b301c41f3a$138a4710$030016ac@zekecpq><00bc01c41f3a$a7b75270$030016ac@zekecpq> <40786ACD.3030107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007d01c437f1$98f203a0$f30016ac@zekews> Ahh, Yes I found that. But my problem is that I need reiserfs with quota support. And the verson of reiserfs that comes with FC1 and FC3 does not support Quota. Or it might support quota but I am doing something wrong :-) /Hans Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "James W. Bennett" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Re: Reiserfs and quota (FC2 test2) > Hans Eric Sandstr?m wrote: > > >I'll reply to mysef. I just realised that my FC1 machine uses ext3 not > >reiserfs. Thus FC1 did not support quota for reiserfs. Well, quota is still a > >must have for me. > > > >/Hans Eric > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Hans Eric Sandstr?m" > >To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > > >Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:26 PM > >Subject: Reiserfs and quota (FC2 test2) > > > > > > > > > >>I was playing around with FC2 test 2 (kernel 2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) and just > >>realised that quota support for reiserfs is not present. > >> > >>The 2.4.22-1.2115.nptlsmp kernel from FC1 supports reiserfs quota. > >> > >>Please consider including the quota patch for reiserfs as this is a must > >> > >> > >have > > > > > >>for me. > >> > >>/Hans Eric > >> > >>------------------------------------ > >>MailCORE AB > >>Hans-Eric Sandstr?m, CTO > >>hes at xinit.se > >>Franzengatan 14 > >>H?rn?sand > >>mobile: +46 70 5645490 > >>tel: +46 850 555 616 > >>------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >>-- > >>fedora-test-list mailing list > >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >>To unsubscribe: > >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Reiserfs is supported on FC2 as well it was on FC1. On FC2 you must > install it form one of the cd's as it is not installed during the normal > install. Install it than make the changes in your /etc/fstab and your > up and running. > > Regards; > Jim > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Wed May 12 08:01:39 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 16:01:39 +0800 Subject: Anaconda crashes when harddisk installing today's rsynced tree dvd iso In-Reply-To: <1084293024.3089.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1084293024.3089.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1084348899.1812.6.camel@server1.example.com> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 00:30, Patrick wrote: > Hello, > > I just tried a harddisk install of today's rsynced tree dvd iso made by > Chris Kloiber's excellent FedoraSync.sh script. Anaconda throws an > exception error. The debug output is attached. Is this something that > needs to go into bugzilla or is harddisk installing the rsynced tree dvd > iso unsupported (at this time)? > > Regards, > Patrick I think harddisk installs require(?) an iso. So if you have the room let my script make a dvd iso for you in the root dir of a partition and try using it. (Yes, I am a slacker. I have not looked at making CD isos yet. I'm busy this week teaching RHCE class.) -- Chris Kloiber From Fred.New at microlink.ee Wed May 12 07:35:43 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:35:43 +0300 Subject: 2.8 of 4GB Memory / Fedora (again) Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E28@eemail1.microlink.lan> On May 12, 2004, at 9:13 reg at dwf.com wrote: > > The problem is that Linux (Fedora, above) is only seeing (reporting) 2.8 > of the 4GB of memory. Thats from /proc/meminfo, free, top... > I saw this problem on the 2.4 kernel when I was using kernel-smp on a 3 GB machine. Going to kernel-bigmem fixed it. FC doesn't have a kernel-bigmem, but I wonder what would happen if you tried kernel-smp. I notice that kernel-smp-2.6.5-1.358.i686 Has CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y while kernel-2.6.5-1.358.i686 has CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y. Fred From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Wed May 12 08:13:26 2004 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:13:26 +0200 Subject: Anaconda crashes when harddisk installing today's rsynced tree dvd iso In-Reply-To: <1084348899.1812.6.camel@server1.example.com> References: <1084293024.3089.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1084348899.1812.6.camel@server1.example.com> Message-ID: <1084349606.3663.11.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 10:01, Chris Kloiber wrote: [snip] > I think harddisk installs require(?) an iso. So if you have the room let > my script make a dvd iso for you in the root dir of a partition and try > using it. (Yes, I am a slacker. I have not looked at making CD isos yet. > I'm busy this week teaching RHCE class.) > > -- > Chris Kloiber > Hi Chris, Thanks for the tip. I used the dvd iso made by your script but had not thought of putting that iso in a root dir. Good luck with the RHCE classes. I enjoyed them very much when I did my RHCE and scored 93.3% :) Regards, Patrick From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Wed May 12 08:56:01 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 16:56:01 +0800 Subject: Anaconda crashes when harddisk installing today's rsynced tree dvd iso In-Reply-To: <1084349606.3663.11.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1084293024.3089.12.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> <1084348899.1812.6.camel@server1.example.com> <1084349606.3663.11.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1084352161.1812.12.camel@server1.example.com> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 16:13, Patrick wrote: > On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 10:01, Chris Kloiber wrote: > [snip] > > I think harddisk installs require(?) an iso. So if you have the room let > > my script make a dvd iso for you in the root dir of a partition and try > > using it. (Yes, I am a slacker. I have not looked at making CD isos yet. > > I'm busy this week teaching RHCE class.) > > > > -- > > Chris Kloiber > > > > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for the tip. I used the dvd iso made by your script but had not > thought of putting that iso in a root dir. Good luck with the RHCE > classes. I enjoyed them very much when I did my RHCE and scored 93.3% :) > > Regards, > Patrick Technically the iso can be anywhere on the partition, but you putting it in the root of the partition makes it easier as you don't need to remember/type in the path to it. Heh, I don't need luck with the RHCE... I'm the teacher. :) I'll pass the luck onto my students tho... Thanks. -- Chris Kloiber From den at tourinfo.ru Wed May 12 09:27:17 2004 From: den at tourinfo.ru (Den) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:27:17 +0400 Subject: mozilla langpack Message-ID: <40A1EDF5.1090608@tourinfo.ru> I prepare localization package for Mozilla 1.6. It's doesn't contain in FedoraCore2-devel. My package already contain all localization stuff from mozilla.org. It's tested with russian, ukrainian and belorusian locales and must work in all others. If you can test this package please get it from: http://www.tourinfo.ru/mozilla-i18n-1.6-1.src.rpm (~17??) http://www.tourinfo.ru/mozilla-i18n-1.6-1.i386.rpm (~16??) http://www.tourinfo.ru/mozilla-i18n.spec Den. From kjones at develop.com Wed May 12 10:59:34 2004 From: kjones at develop.com (Kevin Jones) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:59:34 +0100 Subject: Wireless Message-ID: <1084359574.3567.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm running Fedora Core2-Test 3 on a Dell latitude c840 with the Dell miniPCI wireless card. This card has worked on all previous installs (various RedHats and Fedore Core 1). Now however it is not activated. Running iwconfig shows 'No Wireless Extensions' /var/log/messages has "localhost ifup: orinoco_cs device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization. " cardctl ident shows open_sock(): "No such device" Any help would be greatly appreciated on where to look to fix this. Thanks Kevin Jones From kjones at develop.com Wed May 12 11:03:01 2004 From: kjones at develop.com (Kevin Jones) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:03:01 +0100 Subject: Sound Message-ID: <1084359781.3567.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have a weird sound problem on Fedora Core2-Test3. I can play CDs, and I can play sound files that are on the computer, however I don't get any system sounds. The sound daemon (esd) is running and I've enabled system sounds through the gnome-sound-properties (oh, did I say this was on Gnome). Any ideas would be gratefully received, Thanks, Kevin Jones From pusle at pusle.com Wed May 12 11:33:49 2004 From: pusle at pusle.com (Tommy Eliassen) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:33:49 +0200 Subject: Mysql_connect in php 4.3.4 Message-ID: <1084361629.4248.12.camel@fedora> I get a Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in FC2T3 with php 4.3.4. The phpinfo() say this: --with-mysql=shared,/usr. I saw this was a problem with php 4.3.2-7 (http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-September/msg00405.html) Is it back? -Tommy- From pusle at pusle.com Wed May 12 11:44:19 2004 From: pusle at pusle.com (Tommy Eliassen) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:44:19 +0200 Subject: Mysql_connect in php 4.3.4 In-Reply-To: <1084361629.4248.12.camel@fedora> References: <1084361629.4248.12.camel@fedora> Message-ID: <1084362259.4248.14.camel@fedora> Very sorry, I did not have php-mysql installed *blush* -Tommy- ons, 12.05.2004 kl. 13.33 skrev Tommy Eliassen: > I get a Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in FC2T3 with php > 4.3.4. > > The phpinfo() say this: --with-mysql=shared,/usr. > > I saw this was a problem with php 4.3.2-7 > (http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-September/msg00405.html) > Is it back? > > -Tommy- > > > From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed May 12 12:02:12 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:02:12 -0400 Subject: valgrind on FC2 (undefined symbol: __libc_accept) In-Reply-To: <40A1B5E9.20008@redhat.com> References: <200405110729.55655.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <40A1B5E9.20008@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405120802.12081.ndbecker2@verizon.net> On Wednesday 12 May 2004 1:28 am, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: > > valgrind ./TestTurbo > > ./TestTurbo: error while loading shared > > libraries: /usr/lib/valgrind/valgrind.so: undefined symbol: __libc_accept > > Apparently valgrind uses libc-internal symbols which can change at any > time. In this case some unused internal symbols went away. Complain to > the valgrind people for using internal symbols. > Agreed, but valgrind in *very* important, so hopefully libc developers can work together wih valgrind developers to prevent breakage. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed May 12 12:08:50 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:08:50 -0400 Subject: Dovecot Imap broken! (SegFault) References: <40A1014F.40502@redhat.com> <200405111300.45041.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <40A16E39.30500@redhat.com> Message-ID: Warren Togami wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: >> On Tuesday 11 May 2004 12:37 pm, Warren Togami wrote: >> >>>Neal D. Becker wrote: >>> >>>>After updating yesterday, I can no longer use Dovecot Imap: >>>>Whatever change was made, it was not good. >>>> >>>>May 11 08:30:24 rpppc1 dovecot: child 16061 (imap) killed with signal 11 >>> >>>Arg... three patches from the author were applied in order to solve >>>other bugs. Can you please send your /etc/dovecot.conf file? >>> >> > > http://people.redhat.com/wtogami/temp/ > Please test the dovecot build here to see if it resolves your issue. I > disabled the maildir related patch added in -4. I cannot do more > without having more data, core dumps or tracebacks. > > Warren > > The previous (w/maildir patch) crashed every time I started kmail (using disconnected imap). I tested the above version, started/stopped/restarted kmail 3 times, and so far no problem. From dcastle at carolina.rr.com Wed May 12 12:10:05 2004 From: dcastle at carolina.rr.com (Dwaine Castle) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:10:05 -0400 Subject: FC2-test3 video driver question Message-ID: <66d401c4381a$112885b0$6401a8c0@dwainewf4irj9e> I installed FC2-test3 last night -- the complete package. Motherboard: Supermicro P4STA CPU: 1.7GHz Memory: 768 MB Hard drive: WD 80GB CD: HP9900i Monitor: Sony CPD200SF Video card: ATI 8500 /64MB I had a lot of difficulty with disc2. I downloaded copies from 3 different sites and burned each copy to a CD. Md5sums all checked out and the Fedora media check also passed each CD. However, the installation failed on disc2 every time complaining about a missing file. I got around this problem by switching disc2 CDs until one finally worked. I installed all the available patches via up2date. Everything appears to be working with one exception. My video card was miss-identified as an ATI8500LE and allows me a maximum screen resolution of 800x600. I've tried to change it, but it goes back to 8500LE. I've downloaded the latest drivers from ATI, but they appeared to be designed only for XFree86 and it doesn't look like FC2 is using XFree86. I am not sure how, or if, I should install the ATI RPM. I would like to get my graphics card installed correctly. Can anyone explain what is going wrong? Thank you. Dwaine From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed May 12 12:16:46 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:16:46 -0400 Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC2 - which imapserver will be there after update In-Reply-To: <40A1D254.3020107@filmakademie.de> References: <40A1D254.3020107@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <200405120816.51462.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 May 2004 3:29 am, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for all replies to my posting about dovecot and wuimap! > > At the moment our imapserver (400 Users +-, 20 GB Mails) is a plain fc1 > installation with the default configuration for imap. > > So if I do an update from fc1 to fc2 - will the installprocess update my > wuimapd to cyrus or dovecot or will it be untuched? > > If you (the Release notes) say, imap is replaced by cyrusimapd, there > should be an upgrade/migration plan - or better it would be greate if > there is one :-)) > > Thanks for any tips and hints! > Here's how I use it: 1. I get mail from all sources via fetchmail. 2. Fetchmail is configd to deliver via maildrop 3. maildrop uses this .mailfilter: DEFAULT="Mail.imap/" xfilter "/usr/bin/spamc" This delivers directly to Maildir format and runs spamassassin Then dovecot presents this to me MUA, via imap, pop3, and without any configuration, also webmail via squirrelmail. Pretty easy. Life is good. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAohWxMDqogpR5tkMRAsJdAJ9nwSew6FAQWEwEnBnlStN1p42BTwCfTLCS X5CXJKIZk+v4iqBtg3VWxIQ= =wmJc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dwalsh at redhat.com Wed May 12 12:19:24 2004 From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:19:24 -0400 Subject: rawhide install - cannot login with SELinux active In-Reply-To: <20040510045844.GA25838@wolves.durham.nc.us> References: <20040510045844.GA25838@wolves.durham.nc.us> Message-ID: <40A2164C.5080104@redhat.com> Gregory Woodbury wrote: >Fresh install from the rawhide/development build of 2004.05.09 (mirror >of hiwaay mirror) leads to a failure to login with a >"gnome-settings-daemon unexpectedly quit" error. > >Bugzilla #122896 > > > > This is caused by some of the gnome tools writing files to the /root directory during install. These files are being created with the wrong context and need to be relabeled. You can login using failsafe or console login. To fix the file contexts execute setfiles /etc/security/selinux/file_context /root and it will clean it up. This is a release note in FC2. Dan From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 12 12:24:40 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 07:24:40 -0500 Subject: Sound In-Reply-To: <1084359781.3567.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084359781.3567.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A21788.9050602@earthlink.net> Kevin Jones wrote: > I have a weird sound problem on Fedora Core2-Test3. I can play CDs, and > I can play sound files that are on the computer, however I don't get any > system sounds. The sound daemon (esd) is running and I've enabled system > sounds through the gnome-sound-properties (oh, did I say this was on > Gnome). Any ideas would be gratefully received, > > Thanks, > > Kevin Jones > > This is a bug. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122927 Gerry Tool From tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com Wed May 12 12:39:37 2004 From: tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: 12 May 2004 14:39:37 +0200 Subject: GDB 6.1 not in rawhide? Message-ID: <1084365577.32318.6.camel@tarjei> I was looking for a GDB 6.1 RPM today, but couldn't find on, even in Rawhide. The latest version there seems to be gdb-6.0post-0.20040223.19, while 6.1 was released over a month ago on April 4th this year. Yes, I know Fedora is a community driven project, but this package seems to be specifically maintained by one of the RH developers, adding important post release patches as they come along. Does anyone know why Rawhide is not more up to date on GDB? More importantly (for me), does anyone know where I can pull down a gdb 6.1 (S)RPM? (or a spec?) Thanks, -- Tarjei From alan at redhat.com Wed May 12 13:03:09 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:03:09 -0400 Subject: Fedora on italian magazine In-Reply-To: References: <1084287818.2313.112.camel@ninjak> <20040511165140.GD13401@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040512130309.GB30020@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 06:18:27PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > - If you distribute only the binaries, you must offer the sources > somehow to comply with the GNU GPL, that governs the distribution of (at cost if you sell the CD.. so a magazine can happily charge those interested in the source CD set), or even its own ftp site. From zachw at termdex.com Wed May 12 12:33:39 2004 From: zachw at termdex.com (Zach Wilkinson) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:33:39 -0400 Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC2 - which imapserver will be there after update References: <40A1D254.3020107@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <001101c4381d$5a972b40$6801a8c0@host4> ----- Original Message ----- From: "G?tz Reinicke" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:29 AM Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC2 - which imapserver will be there after update > Hi, > > thanks for all replies to my posting about dovecot and wuimap! > > At the moment our imapserver (400 Users +-, 20 GB Mails) is a plain fc1 > installation with the default configuration for imap. > That's strange. My default install for FC1 gave me dovecot, which was included in FC1. > So if I do an update from fc1 to fc2 - will the installprocess update my > wuimapd to cyrus or dovecot or will it be untuched? > Probably won't touch it. > If you (the Release notes) say, imap is replaced by cyrusimapd, there > should be an upgrade/migration plan - or better it would be greate if > there is one :-)) > It's too bad it didn't install dovecot when you installed FC1. A FC2 upgrade would be perfect. > Thanks for any tips and hints! > Well, you could stay UW-imap and just get updates for it from Fedora Legacy or whoever will maintain updates for FC1 after FC2 is released. If your current server is working fine and you don't see a need to change anything, then just leave it running. Your other option is to move to dovecot or cyrus, like you've been investigating. And with the number users and quantity of mail you have I recommend cyrus. It's more robust for that much usage and it's not likely to go away anytime soon. Whichever you decide to go with though, you'll end up needing to become somewhat of an imap expert, so check out there websites and definitely get on their mailing lists. http://www.dovecot.org/ http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/ > Regrads > > G?tz > -- > G?tz Reinicke > IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet > > Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 > Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 > goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de > > Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg > Mathildenstr. 20 > 71638 Ludwigsburg > www.filmakademie.de > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed May 12 12:52:42 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:52:42 -0400 Subject: yum/apt repositories In-Reply-To: <1084321306.14889.12.camel@kirika> References: <1084298454.6952.32.camel@kirika> <20040511202504.02035639.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084300942.6952.37.camel@kirika> <20040511215659.72e48eca.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1084311139.14889.9.camel@kirika> <1084313462.3400.289.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <1084321306.14889.12.camel@kirika> Message-ID: <1084366362.1879.225.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:21, Nadeem Bitar wrote: > Shahms. > > i am aware that these packages are available on dag but currently dag > repository doens't work on FC2T3 and my original question was for a > FC2T3 yum repositories. Support will be forthcoming, according to Dag: http://lists.freshrpms.net/pipermail/freshrpms-list/2004-April/008944.html Hope recent Dag/Axel (ATrpms) animosity on the above list will be resolved and all the [semi-]cooperative repositories will soon support FC2. In a perfect world, Fedora.US and Livna would be on-board too, (and vice-versa) but that may be asking for the moon. Phil From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed May 12 12:59:39 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:59:39 -0400 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 03:10, Makoto Fujiwara wrote: > I have light weith Note PC, Panasonic CF-R1. > This machine had several installation, RedHat 7.3, 8.0,9, FC1. > All work fine. > > Starting FC2 test1, I belive, at test 2 and 3 for sure, the > install kernel won't start. Have you tried booting from the latest images/boot.iso rather than FC2T3 CD #1? Phil From lynn at garlic.com Wed May 12 13:51:57 2004 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 07:51:57 -0600 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of memory In-Reply-To: <20040512080208.636AA731D4@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040512080208.636AA731D4@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084369917.11064.161.camel@lhwlinux> > What does /proc/meminfo tell: > > $ cat /proc/meminfo > > And what does /var/log/dmesg tell us. cat /proc/meminfo Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/md3 rhgb quiet mapped 4G/4G trampoline to fffeb000. Initializing CPU#0 CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=023ae000 soft=0238e000 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order 12: 32768 bytes) Detected 3392.259 MHz processor. Using pmtmr for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Memory: 3635200k/3669456k available (1676k kernel code, 33516k reserved, 708k data, 180k init, 0k highmem) Calibrating delay loop... 6717.44 BogoMIPS ======================== & /var/log/dmesg: Linux version 2.6.5-1.358smp (bhcompile at bugs.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-7)) #1 SMP Sat May 8 09:25:36 EDT 2004 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 00000000dff74000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000dff74000 - 00000000dff76000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 00000000dff76000 - 00000000dff97000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 00000000dff97000 - 00000000e0000000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec10000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fecf0000 - 00000000fecf1000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fed20000 - 00000000fed90000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee10000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffb00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 3583MB LOWMEM available. ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled. found SMP MP-table at 000fe710 On node 0 totalpages: 917364 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 913268 pages, LIFO batch:16 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.3 present. Using APIC driver default Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/md3 rhgb quiet mapped 4G/4G trampoline to fffeb000. Initializing CPU#0 CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=023ae000 soft=0238e000 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order 12: 32768 bytes) Detected 3392.259 MHz processor. Using pmtmr for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Memory: 3635200k/3669456k available (1676k kernel code, 33516k reserved, 708k data, 180k init, 0k highmem) Calibrating delay loop... 6717.44 BogoMIPS -- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ From jorton at redhat.com Wed May 12 13:57:49 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 14:57:49 +0100 Subject: Kickstart Failure In-Reply-To: <1084289606.7366.19.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> References: <1084289606.7366.19.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> Message-ID: <20040512135749.GA12165@redhat.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 10:33:26AM -0500, Steve Gonzales wrote: > Hello. > > I am testing Fedora Core 2 Test 3. I am able to install it on multiple > computers in various ways with one exception which fails on all > computers: kickstart (both "linux ks=floppy" and "linux ks"). > > The process gets all the way to installing packages when it fails on the > "at-3.1.8-52" package. The following "Error Installing Package" window > appears: I also saw this error with FC2t3, when trying an ISOs-over-NFS kickstart (the ISO MD5sums were correct). I successfully did a kickstart using a full tree-over-NFS install using Raw Hide from a few days after the t3 tree, on the same machine. Regards, joe From kslair at cvnet.co.kr Wed May 12 13:58:04 2004 From: kslair at cvnet.co.kr (Kenneth Lee) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:58:04 +0900 Subject: FC2T3 Korean KDE support Message-ID: <200405121358.i4CDwG0m009563@mx1.redhat.com> So far I have no success with KDE in FC2T3. I reinstalled FC2T3 with only English language. Then everything works fine. It occurred to me that Korean language somehow makes a mess with KDE. However I just don't know how to fix this but want to report this so that the final FC2 would fix this in time. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonzo at eng.lsu.edu Wed May 12 14:03:01 2004 From: gonzo at eng.lsu.edu (Steve Gonzales) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:03:01 -0500 Subject: Kickstart Failure Message-ID: <1084370581.6111.8.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> Hello. OK, I've md5sum checked the ISO's and all return "OK". Any other ideas? TIA! Steve Gonzales LSU Div. of Engineering Services From greg at gulik.org Wed May 12 14:13:43 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:13:43 -0500 Subject: Upgrade from FC2T3 to final??? Message-ID: <40A23117.9080006@gulik.org> Does anyone know if there will be an easy way to update FC2T3 to the final FC2 release? Will it be possible to do an up2date instead of using CDs? -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Tue May 11 18:16:59 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:16:59 +0300 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:16, Sean Bruno wrote: > Full text of the release here: > http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html great news! > Any chance of getting this included in FC2? no, too late. But let's kindly ask J. Katz to provide FC2 rpms on his site :-D -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com Wed May 12 14:26:31 2004 From: tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: 12 May 2004 16:26:31 +0200 Subject: Upgrade from FC2T3 to final??? In-Reply-To: <40A23117.9080006@gulik.org> References: <40A23117.9080006@gulik.org> Message-ID: <1084371992.32318.10.camel@tarjei> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 16:13, Gregory Gulik wrote: > > Does anyone know if there will be an easy way to update FC2T3 to the > final FC2 release? Will it be possible to do an up2date instead of > using CDs? > I think this has been repeated a number of times on this list, but no, upgrades between test releases are not suported. That includes upgrading from a test release to final. No one will prevent you from trying of course, but there's no guarantee it will work ;) Cheers, -- Tarjei From jasonk at ali-inc.com Wed May 12 14:27:35 2004 From: jasonk at ali-inc.com (Jason KRISCH) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:27:35 -0400 Subject: 2.6 and Blanking Screen Message-ID: I was wondering if anyone else on this list was experiencing similar results: With FC2T3 on my laptop (HP Pavilion ze5200) I had several issues with the screen going blank (and the backlight turning off too) during boot. It seemed to happen at random places at different times during boot. The system would be locked as far as I could tell and I had to power off. I have since tried passing "vga=773" or "vga=normal" to the kernel at boot time and both seem to get me past the screen going blank. (I also pass "psmouse.proto=imps" so I can tap-click with my touchpad.) However, when I exit X - no matter what runlevel I am running in, the screen goes immediately blank, backlight is powered off, and as far as I can tell the laptop is locked up. This applies to "Log Out", "Reboot", and "Shutdown". I have found no related entries in my logs. I have also tried passing "acpi=off" to the kernel. Anyone else have issues like this? I think it is a 2.6 issue more than a FC2 issue. Thanks! Jed From davidc at ccmi.salk.edu Wed May 12 14:28:11 2004 From: davidc at ccmi.salk.edu (David Chambers) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 07:28:11 -0700 Subject: Problem with SMP kernel and i7505 board? Message-ID: <20040512072811.56375007@xena.salk.ccmi> Forgive me if this is not the correct forum for this - I've been in lurk mode for a bit and this is my first posting. I have a Tyan Thunder 7505 (Intel 7505 chipset) with 2 GB and dual Xeon processors. This system has been running FC1 happily for some time with either kernel 2.4 or a home-compiled 2.6. I recently decided to update it to FC2T3. I am encountering problems in that it will not run the mouse or keyboard in smp mode with any of the available kernel RPMs (from the test release, and up to and including 358 which I tested yesterday). It locks up the keyboard hard, requiring reset to be pressed, and never even gets to turn on the LED in the (optical) mouse. It runs fine with the uniprocessor kernel. Googling produced the possibility that this board did not like the 64GB kernel option, but I have tested this (edited the RPM config and reduced it to 4GB) and I get the same results. I have also tried installing FC2T3 on a new disk, in case it was an upgrade problem - same results. Anybody got any ideas on what to do next? All the best - David From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed May 12 14:29:37 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:29:37 -0400 Subject: Upgrade from FC2T3 to final??? In-Reply-To: <40A23117.9080006@gulik.org> References: <40A23117.9080006@gulik.org> Message-ID: <1084372177.1879.281.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 10:13, Gregory Gulik wrote: > Does anyone know if there will be an easy way to update FC2T3 to the > final FC2 release? Will it be possible to do an up2date instead of > using CDs? If you're up-to-date with rawhide, you're probably ~97% there now, but of course the usual caveats about rawhide upgrades to release versions being unsupported apply. Phil From baron at psych.upenn.edu Wed May 12 14:43:11 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:43:11 -0400 Subject: kernel oops with iwconfig wlan0 Message-ID: <20040512144311.GA4650@psych> I don't know if this is the place to report this, or whether I should report it at all. Please ignore this message if it is inappropriate. The command was iwconfig wlan0 key 1234567890 I was trying to get my Broadcom BCM94306 802.11b/g wireless card working with a Linksys BEFW11S4 Wireless-B hub. I'm very close, but I'm about to give up! (I think the problem is that the hub requires encryptation, which is why I tried this command.) Afterward, the only way to reboot was to unplug the AC connection and remove the battery. Here is the record from messages May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address fef18e10 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: printing eip: May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: 428be363 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: *pde = 00000000 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: Oops: 0000 [#1] May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: SMP May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: CPU: 0 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: EIP: 0060:[<428be363>] Tainted: P May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: EFLAGS: 00210202 (2.6.5-1.358smp) May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: EIP is at ndis_set_wep+0xa2/0x157 [ndiswrapper] May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: eax: 00000005 ebx: 3ff2a220 ecx: 00000001 edx: 00000005 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: esi: fef18e10 edi: 2dc5bed0 ebp: 3ff2a000 esp: 2dc5beac May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: Process iwconfig (pid: 2922, threadinfo=2dc5b000 task=300c21b0) May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: Stack: 2c2a8067 03585500 02140c53 00000005 00000005 00000e10 0000002c 80000000 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: 00000005 03585500 39e11080 00000000 395fc8c1 fef18e15 00000005 fef18e10 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: 395fc8bc 00008b2a 022ad5f8 00000001 2dc5bf44 00008b2a 02258de4 395fc8bc May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: Call Trace: May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: [<02140c53>] follow_page+0x128/0x134 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: [<02258de4>] wireless_process_ioctl+0x2bf/0x59a May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: [<428be2c1>] ndis_set_wep+0x0/0x157 [ndiswrapper] May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: [<022516b9>] dev_ioctl+0x266/0x29b May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: [<02249cbd>] sock_ioctl+0x5e/0x2a7 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: [<021441a4>] do_brk+0x1aa/0x1d5 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: [<0215d98a>] sys_ioctl+0x207/0x243 May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: May 12 10:14:51 delli kernel: Code: f3 a5 a8 02 74 02 66 a5 a8 01 74 01 a4 8d 44 24 04 ba 13 01 -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From dmalcolm at redhat.com Wed May 12 14:43:29 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:43:29 -0400 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 21:16 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:16, Sean Bruno wrote: > > Full text of the release here: > > http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html > great news! > > > Any chance of getting this included in FC2? > no, too late. But let's kindly ask J. Katz to provide FC2 rpms on his > site :-D I've taken over packaging the new Evolution from Jeremy; you can get Evo 1.5.7 from here now: http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm (this is 1.5.7 plus some bugfixes plus a patch to use the new file selector dialog) I'm working on the Connector stuff; should be there soon. Dave > > -- > Marius Andreiana > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > http://www.galuna.ro > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From stevef at netvantix.com Wed May 12 14:56:47 2004 From: stevef at netvantix.com (Steve Fink) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:56:47 -0600 Subject: Screensaver causes X to Crash Message-ID: <1084373806.3404.6.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> After a yum update this morning, each time the screensaver attempts to activate it crashes X and X restarts. I tried to open the screensaver preferences dialog applet and it also crashes X and X restarts. Best, Steve From stevef at netvantix.com Wed May 12 15:17:16 2004 From: stevef at netvantix.com (Steve Fink) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:17:16 -0600 Subject: Follow-up: Screensaver causes X to Crash In-Reply-To: <1084373806.3404.6.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> References: <1084373806.3404.6.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> Message-ID: <1084375036.3602.2.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> Some additional information... The screensaver I was using was the OpenGL Matrix themed screensaver. I deleted the file .xscreensaver from my home directory and I can once again open the screensaver preferences dialog. More to follow. Best, Steve On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 08:56, Steve Fink wrote: > After a yum update this morning, each time the screensaver attempts to > activate it crashes X and X restarts. > > I tried to open the screensaver preferences dialog applet and it also > crashes X and X restarts. > > Best, > > Steve > From stevef at netvantix.com Wed May 12 15:25:15 2004 From: stevef at netvantix.com (Steve Fink) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:25:15 -0600 Subject: Follow-up: Screensaver causes X to Crash In-Reply-To: <1084375036.3602.2.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> References: <1084373806.3404.6.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> <1084375036.3602.2.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> Message-ID: <1084375515.4028.5.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> Sorry for the spam like postings... Upon further testing X crashes when selecting any of the GLscreensavers. I am using a vanilla kernel from kernel.org 2.6.5 compiled with 4k stacks to allow me to compile the nvidia driver from nvidia.com. X is running at 1600x1200 32-bit color on a GeForce 4 ToGo in a Dell Inspiron 8200. Best, Steve On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 09:17, Steve Fink wrote: > Some additional information... > > The screensaver I was using was the OpenGL Matrix themed screensaver. > > I deleted the file .xscreensaver from my home directory and I can once > again open the screensaver preferences dialog. > > More to follow. > > Best, > > Steve > > > > On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 08:56, Steve Fink wrote: > > After a yum update this morning, each time the screensaver attempts to > > activate it crashes X and X restarts. > > > > I tried to open the screensaver preferences dialog applet and it also > > crashes X and X restarts. > > > > Best, > > > > Steve > > > From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Wed May 12 15:27:29 2004 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:27:29 -0700 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084308459.14933.19.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084304874.20818.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084305254.21990.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084305726.29718.2.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084308459.14933.19.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> Message-ID: <1084375649.26838.3.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Well, it seems to work for me under FC2. What are the chances of adding this to FC2 after the release date? On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 13:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 23:02, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 22:54, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > > Beginnings of a package at: > > > > http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/SRPMS.fdr/ximian-connector-1.4.7-0.fdr.1.src.rpm > > > > Installs and removes, Evo sees the thing but it gives the same OAF error > > > > on startup as in here: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110287 > > > > > > > > Don't have an Exchange server at home anyway so further > > > > testing/debugging will have to wait till tomorrow, if somebody wants to > > > > find out why it's failing feel free... > > > It is failing due to where the "install" is putting all of it's shared > > > libraries: /usr/lib/evolution/1.4/ > > > > > > You can override this setting in the "configure", set your > > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include this, or make a series of soft-links to the > > > libraries in /usr/lib > > > > I found that hint on from google as well but doesn't seem to be the > > cause in this case, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't help for me at > > least. > > Ok it was that path afterall, it was just some background process which > didn't get the path set until I logged out and killed all the remaining > gnome-processes. > > Now I just need to fix the package to deal with that.. > > - Panu - -- Sean Bruno Telecommunications Engineer Metro One Telecommunications Desk (503)524-1632 Cell (503)358-6832 From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Wed May 12 15:48:15 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:48:15 -0400 Subject: Follow-up: Screensaver causes X to Crash In-Reply-To: <1084375515.4028.5.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> References: <1084373806.3404.6.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> <1084375036.3602.2.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> <1084375515.4028.5.camel@quasar.netvantix.net> Message-ID: <1084376895.30153.2.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 11:25, Steve Fink wrote: > Sorry for the spam like postings... > > Upon further testing X crashes when selecting any of the GLscreensavers. > > I am using a vanilla kernel from kernel.org 2.6.5 compiled with 4k > stacks to allow me to compile the nvidia driver from nvidia.com. > > X is running at 1600x1200 32-bit color on a GeForce 4 ToGo in a Dell > Inspiron 8200. Steve, You need to disable 4K stacks, the nvidia driver will not work with the smaller stack size. Bob... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed May 12 16:16:54 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:16:54 +0200 Subject: Kickstart Failure In-Reply-To: <1084370581.6111.8.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> References: <1084370581.6111.8.camel@engw0001.eng.lsu.edu> Message-ID: <1084378613.4746.63.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Gonzo, > OK, I've md5sum checked the ISO's and all return "OK". The mail from Joe indicates that the problem might be solved already. Wait for FC2 final, and if the issue still exist please put it in bugzilla. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From concert at europe.com Wed May 12 16:20:31 2004 From: concert at europe.com (t l) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:20:31 -0800 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd Message-ID: <20040512162031.2AD1079004B@ws1-14.us4.outblaze.com> Dave, Thanks for the rpms... I tried to yum'ing evolution and got the following: [root at fedora etc]# yum update evolution Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree Server: Redhat people Dave Malcolm - People Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies ..Package balsa needs libgal-2.0.so.6, this is not available. Package balsa needs libgal-a11y-2.0.so.6, this is not available. Package balsa needs libgtkhtml-3.0.so.4, this is not available. [root at fedora etc]# tom ------------------------------------------------------------ * From: David Malcolm * To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases * Subject: Re: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd * Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:43:29 -0400 On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 21:16 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:16, Sean Bruno wrote: > > Full text of the release here: > > http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html > great news! > > > Any chance of getting this included in FC2? > no, too late. But let's kindly ask J. Katz to provide FC2 rpms on his > site :-D I've taken over packaging the new Evolution from Jeremy; you can get Evo 1.5.7 from here now: http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm (this is 1.5.7 plus some bugfixes plus a patch to use the new file selector dialog) I'm working on the Connector stuff; should be there soon. Dave > > -- > Marius Andreiana > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > http://www.galuna.ro > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list redhat com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed May 12 17:41:50 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:41:50 -0400 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <20040512162031.2AD1079004B@ws1-14.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040512162031.2AD1079004B@ws1-14.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1084383710.1879.353.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 12:20, t l wrote: > Dave, > > Thanks for the rpms... > > I tried to yum'ing evolution and got the following: > > [root at fedora etc]# yum update evolution > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 2 - Development Tree > Server: Redhat people Dave Malcolm - People > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > ..Package balsa needs libgal-2.0.so.6, this is not available. > Package balsa needs libgal-a11y-2.0.so.6, this is not available. > Package balsa needs libgtkhtml-3.0.so.4, this is not available. > [root at fedora etc]# Works-for-me without balsa installed. If you're using evolution do you need balsa? Try: yum remove balsa yum upgrade Phil From sarah at zippysoft.com Wed May 12 17:56:32 2004 From: sarah at zippysoft.com (Sarah Pearson) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:56:32 +0100 Subject: kernel oops with iwconfig wlan0 In-Reply-To: <20040512144311.GA4650@psych> References: <20040512144311.GA4650@psych> Message-ID: <1084384592.3374.6.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 15:43, Jonathan Baron wrote: > I don't know if this is the place to report this, or whether I > should report it at all. Please ignore this message if it is > inappropriate. > > The command was > iwconfig wlan0 key 1234567890 > I was trying to get my Broadcom BCM94306 802.11b/g wireless card > working with a Linksys BEFW11S4 Wireless-B hub. > I'm very close, but I'm about to give up! (I think the problem > is that the hub requires encryptation, which is why I tried this > command.) I have the same problem using latest rawhide with an atheros based 802.11g card with the Madwifi drivers (http://www.sf.net/projects/madwifi/). I have even tried compiling my own kernel and have had no luck. The wireless card works fine on the same laptop using Gentoo (kernel 2.6.5), and works in Fedora Core 1. I think I'll try recompiling the wireless tools myself and see if this helps. -- Sarah Pearson sarah at zippysoft.com From balay at fastmail.fm Wed May 12 18:09:02 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:09:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: kernel oops with iwconfig wlan0 [ ndiswrapper ] In-Reply-To: <1084384592.3374.6.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> References: <20040512144311.GA4650@psych> <1084384592.3374.6.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 2004, Sarah Pearson wrote: > On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 15:43, Jonathan Baron wrote: > > I don't know if this is the place to report this, or whether I > > should report it at all. Please ignore this message if it is > > inappropriate. > > > > The command was > > iwconfig wlan0 key 1234567890 > > I was trying to get my Broadcom BCM94306 802.11b/g wireless card > > working with a Linksys BEFW11S4 Wireless-B hub. > > I'm very close, but I'm about to give up! (I think the problem > > is that the hub requires encryptation, which is why I tried this > > command.) > > I have the same problem using latest rawhide with an atheros based > 802.11g card with the Madwifi drivers > (http://www.sf.net/projects/madwifi/). I have even tried compiling my > own kernel and have had no luck. > > The wireless card works fine on the same laptop using Gentoo (kernel > 2.6.5), and works in Fedora Core 1. > > I think I'll try recompiling the wireless tools myself and see if this > helps. I believe ndiswrapper/linuxant stuff doesn't work on FC2beta kernels due to the 4G/4G stuff in the kenel (along with nvidia binary drivers) There should be more info regarding this in the archives.. I don't know if the same issue affects madwifi. I would certainly like to know if anyone is able to use madwifi on FC2T3+ kernel successfully. Satish From guy.van-den-bergh at skynet.be Wed May 12 18:30:33 2004 From: guy.van-den-bergh at skynet.be (Guy Van Den Bergh) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:30:33 +0200 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084375649.26838.3.camel@oscar.metro1.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084304874.20818.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084305254.21990.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084305726.29718.2.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084308459.14933.19.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084375649.26838.3.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Message-ID: <1084386633.4408.1.camel@laptop.guyvdb.net> Works for me too, accept from reading the address lists Exchange 2000 has. It says it can't connect to the ldap server, which might be the domain controller instead of the exchange server. Have to investigate further still... Guy On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 17:27, Sean Bruno wrote: > Well, it seems to work for me under FC2. > > What are the chances of adding this to FC2 after the release date? > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 13:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 23:02, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 22:54, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > > > Beginnings of a package at: > > > > > http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/SRPMS.fdr/ximian-connector-1.4.7-0.fdr.1.src.rpm > > > > > Installs and removes, Evo sees the thing but it gives the same OAF error > > > > > on startup as in here: > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110287 > > > > > > > > > > Don't have an Exchange server at home anyway so further > > > > > testing/debugging will have to wait till tomorrow, if somebody wants to > > > > > find out why it's failing feel free... > > > > It is failing due to where the "install" is putting all of it's shared > > > > libraries: /usr/lib/evolution/1.4/ > > > > > > > > You can override this setting in the "configure", set your > > > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include this, or make a series of soft-links to the > > > > libraries in /usr/lib > > > > > > I found that hint on from google as well but doesn't seem to be the > > > cause in this case, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't help for me at > > > least. > > > > Ok it was that path afterall, it was just some background process which > > didn't get the path set until I logged out and killed all the remaining > > gnome-processes. > > > > Now I just need to fix the package to deal with that.. > > > > - Panu - > -- > Sean Bruno > Telecommunications Engineer > Metro One Telecommunications > Desk (503)524-1632 > Cell (503)358-6832 -- Guy Van Den Bergh From zac9 at cdc.gov Wed May 12 18:34:00 2004 From: zac9 at cdc.gov (Sessoms, Mack) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 14:34:00 -0400 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084386633.4408.1.camel@laptop.guyvdb.net> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <20040511173031.GA14026@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084304874.20818.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084305254.21990.1.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084305726.29718.2.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084308459.14933.19.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> <1084375649.26838.3.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084386633.4408.1.camel@laptop.guyvdb.net> Message-ID: <40A26E18.90700@cdc.gov> beware of active directory's ldap as far as the global catalog goes. I could only read that thing with on port 3268 with non-microsoft ldap tools. Guy Van Den Bergh wrote: >Works for me too, accept from reading the address lists Exchange 2000 >has. It says it can't connect to the ldap server, which might be the >domain controller instead of the exchange server. > >Have to investigate further still... > >Guy > >On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 17:27, Sean Bruno wrote: > > >>Well, it seems to work for me under FC2. >> >>What are the chances of adding this to FC2 after the release date? >> >>On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 13:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 23:02, Panu Matilainen wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 22:54, Sean Bruno wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 12:47, Panu Matilainen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Beginnings of a package at: >>>>>>http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/SRPMS.fdr/ximian-connector-1.4.7-0.fdr.1.src.rpm >>>>>>Installs and removes, Evo sees the thing but it gives the same OAF error >>>>>>on startup as in here: >>>>>>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110287 >>>>>> >>>>>>Don't have an Exchange server at home anyway so further >>>>>>testing/debugging will have to wait till tomorrow, if somebody wants to >>>>>>find out why it's failing feel free... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>It is failing due to where the "install" is putting all of it's shared >>>>>libraries: /usr/lib/evolution/1.4/ >>>>> >>>>>You can override this setting in the "configure", set your >>>>>LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include this, or make a series of soft-links to the >>>>>libraries in /usr/lib >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I found that hint on from google as well but doesn't seem to be the >>>>cause in this case, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't help for me at >>>>least. >>>> >>>> >>>Ok it was that path afterall, it was just some background process which >>>didn't get the path set until I logged out and killed all the remaining >>>gnome-processes. >>> >>>Now I just need to fix the package to deal with that.. >>> >>> - Panu - >>> >>> >>-- >>Sean Bruno >>Telecommunications Engineer >>Metro One Telecommunications >>Desk (503)524-1632 >>Cell (503)358-6832 >> >> From sarah at zippysoft.com Wed May 12 18:41:14 2004 From: sarah at zippysoft.com (Sarah Pearson) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 19:41:14 +0100 Subject: kernel oops with iwconfig wlan0 [ ndiswrapper ] In-Reply-To: References: <20040512144311.GA4650@psych> <1084384592.3374.6.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> Message-ID: <1084387274.2365.5.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 19:09, Satish Balay wrote: > I believe ndiswrapper/linuxant stuff doesn't work on FC2beta kernels > due to the 4G/4G stuff in the kenel (along with nvidia binary drivers) > There should be more info regarding this in the archives.. > > I don't know if the same issue affects madwifi. I would certainly like > to know if anyone is able to use madwifi on FC2T3+ kernel successfully. I have done some more experimenting and think I have found the solution to my problem at least. There seems to be some sort of conflict perhaps between the order it initialises ath0 and loads pcmcia. If I dont load pcmcia at boot, then the wireless card comes straight up without oopsing. Stop pcmcia-cs from starting on boot (system-config-services) and put the following into /etc/rc.modules #!/bin/bash /sbin/modprobe yenta_socket /sbin/modprobe ds chmod +x /etc/rc.modules I have a ifcfg.ath0 file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ which brings up my wireless network on boot. -- Sarah Pearson sarah at zippysoft.com From h.mayer at inode.at Wed May 12 19:30:10 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:30:10 +0200 Subject: X crashes when googling for 'openmosix "currently disabled"' Message-ID: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> Hi all! This sounds weird and it is! I'm running a plain F2T3 install and X crashed when searching in Mozilla on google for: openmosix "currently disabled" Very weird! All other searches I performed worked well. X crashes after I submit the search and the blue login screen comes up again. I up2date'ed to the latest xorg rpm's a few minutes ago, but still the same.... There is almost nothing in xorg.0.log. Just that the X server terminated on signal 11 Any ideas what's going on here ? Thanks, Hannes. PS: The openmosix problem worked out a few days ago. I wanted to take a look if my HOWTO is already in the google-index ;-) From lowen at pari.edu Wed May 12 19:53:59 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 15:53:59 -0400 Subject: X crashes when googling for 'openmosix "currently disabled"' In-Reply-To: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> References: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> Message-ID: <200405121553.59030.lowen@pari.edu> On Wednesday 12 May 2004 15:30, Hannes Mayer wrote: > I'm running a plain F2T3 install and X crashed when searching in > Mozilla on google for: > openmosix "currently disabled" > > Very weird! All other searches I performed worked well. > X crashes after I submit the search and the blue login screen comes > up again. > PS: The openmosix problem worked out a few days ago. I wanted to take > a look if my HOWTO is already in the google-index ;-) I can't duplicate that on FC2T3 fully updated. My video is an ATI M9. (Dell laptop; Inspiron 600m) -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From janus at bananus.dk Wed May 12 19:56:16 2004 From: janus at bananus.dk (Janus N. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?T=F8ndering?=) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:56:16 +0200 Subject: /proc/kallsyms missing in FC2T3 (kern: 2.6.5-1.358) Message-ID: <1084391776.4630.7.camel@apple.bananus.dk> Hi, I am trying to compile some modules that need to consult /proc/kallsyms. But the file is missing from my system? Shouldn't it be there? Thanks, Janus -- Janus N. T?ndering GPG Fingerprint: 4035 778C 4868 25C6 D23E 175A 8593 AEFF 7145 2196 From billg at f-m.fm Wed May 12 20:01:45 2004 From: billg at f-m.fm (billg) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 16:01:45 -0400 Subject: X crashes when googling for 'openmosix "currently disabled"' In-Reply-To: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> References: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> Message-ID: <1084392105.9945.196351487@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Wed, 12 May 2004 21:30:10 +0200, "Hannes Mayer" said: > I'm running a plain F2T3 install and X crashed when searching in > Mozilla on google for: > openmosix "currently disabled" No crashes here searching for that from Epiphany on an updated F2T3 with a Matrox G550. Ditto from Mozilla. Doesn't seem to be anything unusual about the page Google returns. From h.mayer at inode.at Wed May 12 20:21:49 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:21:49 +0200 Subject: X crashes when googling for 'openmosix "currently disabled"' In-Reply-To: <1084392105.9945.196351487@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> <1084392105.9945.196351487@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <40A2875D.5040106@inode.at> Thanks for your replies! I forgot to mention that I run Mozilla1.7RC1 I did some further tests: * search works in Konqueror and Firefox0.8 * if I save the results page from Konqueror and open it locally in Moz, X crashes aswell * I thought maybe the cyrillic font in the results might cause the crash, but pravda.ru works fine So I assume it's a bug in Moz1.7RC1 ... Cheers, Hannes. PS: haven't tried the included Moz1.6 yet .. will do tomorrow... From jos at xos.nl Wed May 12 20:28:18 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:28:18 +0200 Subject: X crashes when googling for 'openmosix "currently disabled"' In-Reply-To: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at>; from h.mayer@inode.at on Wed, May 12, 2004 at 09:30:10PM +0200 References: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> Message-ID: <20040512222818.A27791@xos037.xos.nl> On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 09:30:10PM +0200, Hannes Mayer wrote: > I'm running a plain F2T3 install and X crashed when searching in > Mozilla on google for: > openmosix "currently disabled" > > Very weird! All other searches I performed worked well. > X crashes after I submit the search and the blue login screen comes > up again. Probably has to do with the fonts needed to display the results. On an old RHL 8 system with Galeon, showing the result page is delayed a lot because xfs has to do its work first.... And there are very "weird" characters in the result page... -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed May 12 21:08:17 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:08:17 -0400 Subject: Tettnang??? Message-ID: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> OK, so what's a Tettnang? [root at dyne root]# cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) 1. http://www.yakimachief.com/hopvarieties/tettnanger.html TETTNANG Origin/History Tettnang is an aroma-type cultivar which originated in the Tettnang hop growing area of Germany as a land-race hop. It is grown in the U.S.A. in Oregon and Washington State. Agronomics Moderate tolerance to downy mildew, Peronospera, and fair pickability of a small, open cone. Maturity: Early Yield: 1150 - 1500 kgs. per ha. 1000-1300 lbs. per acre Brewing Quality Used for its aromatic properties. Alpha acids: 4.0-5.0% Beta acids: 3.5-4.5% Alpha:Beta Ratio: 1.1 Cohumulone (% of alpha acids): 20-25% Total Oil (Mls. per 100 grams): 0.4-0.8 Caryophyllene (as % of total oils): 6-7% Farnesene (as % of total oils): 15-20% Humulene (as % of total oils): 18-23% Myrcene (as % of total oils): 36-45% Storability is poor to fair. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. A city in Germany - seems to have lots of hotels, resorts, and (of course) breweries. ...???... Phil From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Wed May 12 21:14:05 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:14:05 -0400 Subject: Display Resolution In-Reply-To: <200405122107.RAA29396@warspite.xo.com> References: <200405122107.RAA29396@warspite.xo.com> Message-ID: <1084396445.1881.21.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 18:06, Brian Van Grunsven wrote: > Thanks for directing me to the right list Phil! :-) > > Below I've quickly thrown together some of the conversation thus far. BTW > Phil - I installed the rpm and it's dependencies of redhat-config-xfree86 > after your suggestion. At any rate I blew the machine away and in another > 25 minutes should be at a fresh install (where I was before). Brian, Welcome to fedora-test-list (now that it's about done - well there's FC3 to look forward to. :-) Come back if the fresh install fails. Meanwhile you may want to check your clock. You're coming from an hour in the future! Phil From wtogami at redhat.com Wed May 12 21:19:28 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:19:28 -1000 Subject: X crashes when googling for 'openmosix "currently disabled"' In-Reply-To: <40A2875D.5040106@inode.at> References: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> <1084392105.9945.196351487@webmail.messagingengine.com> <40A2875D.5040106@inode.at> Message-ID: <40A294E0.5010504@redhat.com> Hannes Mayer wrote: > > Thanks for your replies! > > I forgot to mention that I run Mozilla1.7RC1 > > I did some further tests: > * search works in Konqueror and Firefox0.8 > * if I save the results page from Konqueror and open it locally > in Moz, X crashes aswell > * I thought maybe the cyrillic font in the results might cause > the crash, but pravda.ru works fine > > So I assume it's a bug in Moz1.7RC1 ... > > Cheers, > Hannes. > > PS: haven't tried the included Moz1.6 yet .. will do tomorrow... Can you please bzip2 the saved HTML and send it to the list, or post at URL? Which binary exactly of mozilla 1.7rc1 did you use? Warren From balay at fastmail.fm Wed May 12 21:20:23 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 16:20:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: FC2 release notes typo? [fedora-release-2-4] Message-ID: Typo in usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html: - Noticed mention of 'redhat-config-securitylevel'. Shouldn't it be 'system-config-securitylevel'? It would be nice if the following are also mentioned separately: -> redhat-config-* -> system-config-* change - OSS -> ALSA - APM -> ACPI (default) (with the option acpi=off to switch to APM) - 4G/4G issues with nvidia binary / ndisswrapper etc. Satish From nutello at sweetness.com Wed May 12 21:28:37 2004 From: nutello at sweetness.com (Rudi Chiarito) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:37 +0200 Subject: Tettnang??? In-Reply-To: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20040512212837.GA21538@server4.8080.it> On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 05:08:17PM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > OK, so what's a Tettnang? > Tettnang is an aroma-type cultivar which originated in the Tettnang hop > growing area of Germany as a land-race hop. It is grown in the U.S.A. in > Oregon and Washington State. Yarrow can be used in beer, too. Rudi From limbo at bluethingy.com Wed May 12 21:24:57 2004 From: limbo at bluethingy.com (Michael Knepher) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 14:24:57 -0700 Subject: Tettnang??? References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 2004 17:08:17 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > OK, so what's a Tettnang? > [root at dyne root]# cat /etc/fedora-release > Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) > > 1. http://www.yakimachief.com/hopvarieties/tettnanger.html > TETTNANG > Origin/History > Tettnang is an aroma-type cultivar which originated in the Tettnang hop > growing area of Germany as a land-race hop. It is grown in the U.S.A. in > Oregon and Washington State. > > 2. A city in Germany - seems to have lots of hotels, resorts, and (of > course) breweries. > > ...???... Yarrow Yar"row, n. OE. yarowe, yarwe, yogharowe, AS. gearwe; akin to D. gerw, OHG. garwa, garawa, G. garbe, schafgarbe, and perhaps to E. yare. (Bot.) An American and European composite plant (Achillea Millefolium) with very finely dissected leaves and small white corymbed flowers. It has a strong, and somewhat aromatic, odor and taste, and is sometimes used in making beer, or is dried for smoking. Called also milfoil, and nosebleed. From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Wed May 12 21:37:59 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:37:59 -0400 Subject: Subject: Re: black borderline animation on minimize/maximize Message-ID: <1084397878.4846.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Dave, Thank you very, very much for your response. That solved the problem. I guess this tells me that Fedora sucks a bit more juice than some other distros (more evident in KDE). Or, maybe it's really telling me that it's time to fork out cash for a new computer! :) Again, thanks very much!! Rory ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 06:27:59 -0500 From: David L Norris Subject: Re: black borderline animation on minimize/maximize To: For users of Fedora Core releases Message-ID: <1084361278.11791.12.camel at Daneel.WebAugur.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:33, Rory Gleeson wrote: > I have a really simple problem I can't resolve in Gnome. Every time I > minimize/maximize a window, I get a series of black borderlines taking > over my screen that follows the window as it increases of decreases in > size. Run 'gconf-editor' (System Tools -> More System Tools -> Configuration Editor) and navigate to apps/metacity/general then check the box next to "reduced_resources" That will disable all window animations and make the window drag a wireframe. From shugal at gmx.de Wed May 12 21:53:13 2004 From: shugal at gmx.de (Martin Stricker) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:53:13 +0200 Subject: Tettnang??? References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <40A29CC9.783C17A1@gmx.de> Tettnang http://www.tettnang.de/ is a city in southern Germany (state Baden-W?rttemberg, near the Bodensee (Lake of Constance). Very nice region, definitely worth a trip (I have been there myself). Best regards, Martin Stricker Phil Schaffner wrote: > > OK, so what's a Tettnang? > [root at dyne root]# cat /etc/fedora-release > Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) > > 1. http://www.yakimachief.com/hopvarieties/tettnanger.html > TETTNANG > Origin/History > Tettnang is an aroma-type cultivar which originated in the Tettnang hop > growing area of Germany as a land-race hop. It is grown in the U.S.A. in > Oregon and Washington State. > > Agronomics > Moderate tolerance to downy mildew, Peronospera, and fair pickability of > a small, open cone. > > Maturity: > Early > Yield: > 1150 - 1500 kgs. per ha. > > 1000-1300 lbs. per acre > > Brewing Quality > Used for its aromatic properties. > > Alpha acids: > 4.0-5.0% > Beta acids: > 3.5-4.5% > Alpha:Beta Ratio: > 1.1 > > Cohumulone (% of alpha acids): > 20-25% > > > > Total Oil (Mls. per 100 grams): > 0.4-0.8 > Caryophyllene (as % of total oils): > 6-7% > Farnesene (as % of total oils): > 15-20% > Humulene (as % of total oils): > 18-23% > Myrcene (as % of total oils): > 36-45% > > Storability is poor to fair. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > 2. A city in Germany - seems to have lots of hotels, resorts, and (of > course) breweries. > > ...???... > > Phil -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 9 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ From cdrobsonjr at netscape.net Wed May 12 22:01:39 2004 From: cdrobsonjr at netscape.net (Doug Robson) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:01:39 -0400 Subject: Needing missing version.h file in kernel-source-2.6.1-1.65 Message-ID: <20B016F1.210027BE.0E82DF66@netscape.net> I have been trying to install the latest ALSA sound system from the sources at alsa-project.org. I need the kernel-source for my 2.6.1-1.65 kernel. Having downloaded the kernel-source rpm and installed it, then going back to the ALSA build and install scripts (make, make install, etc) I find that it complains of not having a source file for "version.h" in /usr/src/linux-2.6.1-1.65/linux/include/version.h. Truly, there is no such file there. I am wondering if the tree builders and maintainers failed to take into consideration that the new make clean clears out such files and so we are left with a rpm which lacks all the files necessary? Not completely sure if I know what I'm talking about, but am confused why this file would be missing. Would it be possible for someone else with this same kernel rev to send me a copy of version.h? Doug __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From guy at incentre.net Wed May 12 22:34:52 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 16:34:52 -0600 Subject: Install on finicky hardware Message-ID: <40A2A68C.7010004@incentre.net> Hi I installed FC2-Test3 on a couple machines over the last couple of days with reasonable results. I was glad to see 3D support for my ATI Radeon AIW 8500DV, the tuner and video capture didn't work, but I have never been able to get it to work under linux. The card uses ATI's RageTheater chip or something like that. One mother board I have has an i810 audio and after turning up all the volume controls it works fine. On the other Machine the onboard ADI198x codec works as well, same thing though, I had to turn all the volume controls up. My ASUS video card {Nvidia GeForce 4 MX} works, but only 2D. The video capture {no tuner on the card} does not seem to work on this card either {it's supposed to work using rivatv but I have not tried yet}. I put an AverMedia TV Studio Card in the machine with the Nvidia Card, and it worked well without any messing around using tvtime. I have not been able to get my iRman or the remote for the AverMedia TV Studio to work and the USB X10 Remote that came with my ATI card detects but, I haven't been able to figure out how to make it work either. The on board Promice 37x SATA/RAID controller doesn't seem to work either. While installing it seemed to load a driver, but none of the 'drives' showed up. During install I had to unplug the USB2 external drive, because the machine seemed to hang and would not move past the blue screen. With all these apparent hiccups, this has so far been the best install I've gone through with linux on these peices of hardware. In the future I plan to stay away from ASUS and Nvidia. ATI seems to have come around, and are at least supporting 3D video. For video capture I think I will stay with Haupauge and AverMedia, they seem to work well. I'll check out DVD tonight, and see how that goes. PS Does anyone know what software works with the FM reciever on my capture card? Thanks in advance. From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Wed May 12 22:34:45 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:34:45 -0500 Subject: kernel oops with iwconfig wlan0 [ ndiswrapper ] In-Reply-To: References: <20040512144311.GA4650@psych> <1084384592.3374.6.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> Message-ID: <200405121734.46082.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Wednesday 12 May 2004 13:09, Satish Balay wrote: > On Wed, 12 May 2004, Sarah Pearson wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 15:43, Jonathan Baron wrote: > > > I don't know if this is the place to report this, or whether I > > > should report it at all. Please ignore this message if it is > > > inappropriate. > > > > > > The command was > > > iwconfig wlan0 key 1234567890 > > > I was trying to get my Broadcom BCM94306 802.11b/g wireless card > > > working with a Linksys BEFW11S4 Wireless-B hub. > > > I'm very close, but I'm about to give up! (I think the problem > > > is that the hub requires encryptation, which is why I tried this > > > command.) > > > > I have the same problem using latest rawhide with an atheros based > > 802.11g card with the Madwifi drivers > > (http://www.sf.net/projects/madwifi/). I have even tried compiling my > > own kernel and have had no luck. > > > > The wireless card works fine on the same laptop using Gentoo (kernel > > 2.6.5), and works in Fedora Core 1. > > > > I think I'll try recompiling the wireless tools myself and see if this > > helps. > > I believe ndiswrapper/linuxant stuff doesn't work on FC2beta kernels > due to the 4G/4G stuff in the kenel (along with nvidia binary drivers) > There should be more info regarding this in the archives.. > > I don't know if the same issue affects madwifi. I would certainly like > to know if anyone is able to use madwifi on FC2T3+ kernel successfully. > > Satish It works fine on my laptop.....see http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20040507104718960 Byte From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Wed May 12 22:46:45 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:46:45 -0400 Subject: Tettnang??? In-Reply-To: <20040512212837.GA21538@server4.8080.it> References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040512212837.GA21538@server4.8080.it> Message-ID: <1084402005.3990.2.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 23:28 +0200, Rudi Chiarito wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 05:08:17PM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > OK, so what's a Tettnang? > > Tettnang is an aroma-type cultivar which originated in the Tettnang hop > > growing area of Germany as a land-race hop. It is grown in the U.S.A. in > > Oregon and Washington State. > > Yarrow can be used in beer, too. OK - now I get it. Have even grown Yarrow, but didn't know about the beer connection. From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Wed May 12 22:43:57 2004 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 15:43:57 -0700 Subject: x86_64 evolution 1.5.7 WAS: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084401837.4307.25.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 10:43 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > I've taken over packaging the new Evolution from Jeremy; you can get Evo > 1.5.7 from here now: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > (this is 1.5.7 plus some bugfixes plus a patch to use the new file > selector dialog) > > I'm working on the Connector stuff; should be there soon. Hey Dave, I have taken your src.rpms from above and tried to get all of them to compile on x86_64. Everything except for the main evolution rpm builds. I get this error on a rpmbuild -ba evolution.spec: gcc -O2 -g -pipe -fPIC -I/usr/include/et -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wno-sign-compare -o .libs/test-calendar test-calendar.o -Wl,--export-dynamic ./.libs/libemiscwidgets.so /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.7/e-util/.libs/libeutil.so -L/usr/X11R6/lib64 -L/usr/lib /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.7/a11y/widgets/.libs/libevolution-widgets-a11y.so /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.7/a11y/.libs/libevolution-a11y.so -ledataserver ../../e-util/.libs/libeutil.so /usr/lib64/libpopt.so -lplc4 -lplds4 -lnspr4 -pthread -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnome-2 /usr/lib/libpopt.so -lbonobo-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-activation -lgnomecanvas-2 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgconf-2 -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lgal-2.2 -lgal-a11y-2.2 -lglade-2.0 -lgnomeprint-2-2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lart_lgpl_2 /usr/lib64/libxml2.so -lpthread -lz -lm -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib64/evolution/1.5 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib /usr/lib/libpopt.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [test-calendar] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.7/widgets/misc' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.7/widgets' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.7' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.3892 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.3892 (%build) [root at d-mpk14-95-238 SPECS]# file /usr/lib/libpopt.so /usr/lib/libpopt.so: symbolic link to `libpopt.so.0.0.0' [root at d-mpk14-95-238 SPECS]# file /usr/lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped Looks like it is trying to link against the 32-bit version of this library. In any event, do you plan on providing x86_64 packages for these or should I continue to try to dig in and fix this? Thanks. -tduffy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From vibol at khmer.cc Wed May 12 22:49:20 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 15:49:20 -0700 Subject: error turning off immediate file sync in syslog? Message-ID: <40A2A9F0.4060706@khmer.cc> I did the following: vi /etc/syslogd.conf and change the following line *.info;mail.none;authpriv.none;cron.none /var/log/messages to *.info;mail.none;authpriv.none;cron.none -/var/log/messages service syslog restart Shutting down kernel logger: [ OK ] Shutting down system logger: [ OK ] Starting system logger: [FAILED] Starting kernel logger: [ OK ] Remove the change and all is well. Seems to only happen on this line. Anyone experiencing the same thing? sysklogd-1.4.1-16 -Vibol From alan at redhat.com Wed May 12 22:52:29 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:52:29 -0400 Subject: Install on finicky hardware In-Reply-To: <40A2A68C.7010004@incentre.net> References: <40A2A68C.7010004@incentre.net> Message-ID: <20040512225229.GB16847@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 04:34:52PM -0600, Guy Fraser wrote: > PS Does anyone know what software works with the FM reciever on my > capture card? http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio/ or for command line control http://www.exploits.org/v4l/fmtools/ From wtogami at redhat.com Wed May 12 23:20:59 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:20:59 -1000 Subject: Needing missing version.h file in kernel-source-2.6.1-1.65 In-Reply-To: <20B016F1.210027BE.0E82DF66@netscape.net> References: <20B016F1.210027BE.0E82DF66@netscape.net> Message-ID: <40A2B15B.9000004@redhat.com> Doug Robson wrote: > I have been trying to install the latest ALSA sound system from the > sources at alsa-project.org. > I need the kernel-source for my 2.6.1-1.65 kernel. Having downloaded the > kernel-source rpm and installed it, then going back to the ALSA build > and install scripts (make, make install, etc) I find that it complains > of not having a source file for "version.h" in > /usr/src/linux-2.6.1-1.65/linux/include/version.h. Why do you need to use an extremely old kernel... the original from FC2Test1? Warren From makoto at ki.nu Wed May 12 23:53:17 2004 From: makoto at ki.nu (Makoto Fujiwara) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:53:17 +0900 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: Thank you, Phil, Do you mean the file boot.img at http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/os/images/ ? That looks to have the similar timestamp with CDROM #1 iso file. Is that right ? --- Makoto Fujiwara, Chiba, Japan, Narita Airport and Disneyland prefecture. From makoto at ki.nu Wed May 12 23:55:25 2004 From: makoto at ki.nu (Makoto Fujiwara) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:55:25 +0900 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: Sorry, I now know it is in here: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/images/ Thanks, I will try it later, --- Makoto Fujiwara, Chiba, Japan, Narita Airport and Disneyland prefecture. From balay at fastmail.fm Wed May 12 23:46:44 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:46:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: kernel oops with iwconfig wlan0 [ ndiswrapper ] In-Reply-To: <1084387274.2365.5.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> References: <20040512144311.GA4650@psych> <1084384592.3374.6.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> <1084387274.2365.5.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 2004, Sarah Pearson wrote: > On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 19:09, Satish Balay wrote: > > > I believe ndiswrapper/linuxant stuff doesn't work on FC2beta kernels > > due to the 4G/4G stuff in the kenel (along with nvidia binary drivers) > > There should be more info regarding this in the archives.. > > > > I don't know if the same issue affects madwifi. I would certainly like > > to know if anyone is able to use madwifi on FC2T3+ kernel successfully. > > I have done some more experimenting and think I have found the solution > to my problem at least. > > There seems to be some sort of conflict perhaps between the order it > initialises ath0 and loads pcmcia. If I dont load pcmcia at boot, then > the wireless card comes straight up without oopsing. > > Stop pcmcia-cs from starting on boot (system-config-services) and put > the following into /etc/rc.modules > > #!/bin/bash > /sbin/modprobe yenta_socket > /sbin/modprobe ds > > chmod +x /etc/rc.modules > > I have a ifcfg.ath0 file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ which brings > up my wireless network on boot. I just tried again (with latest FC2beta kernel & madwifi CVS). I can bring up ath0 - but it hangs after some data transfer. This is a mini-pci card. I havne't tried to eliminate any pcmcia conflict though.. Satish From mgordon at matchmail.com Thu May 13 00:33:20 2004 From: mgordon at matchmail.com (Mark Gordon) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:33:20 -0700 Subject: Startup file Message-ID: <40A2C250.1000809@matchmail.com> Hi guys I want to add mozilla to the startup file. But I don`t now witch is the start up file or how to add the mozilla to it. Im running FC2t3 I new to Fedora and I appreciate any help Thanks Capsuna From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Thu May 13 00:37:35 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:37:35 -0400 Subject: 2.6 and Blanking Screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A2C34F.6010204@insight.rr.com> Jason KRISCH wrote: > I was wondering if anyone else on this list was experiencing similar > results: > > With FC2T3 on my laptop (HP Pavilion ze5200) I had several issues with > the screen going blank (and the backlight turning off too) during boot. > It seemed to happen at random places at different times during boot. > The system > would be locked as far as I could tell and I had to power off. I have > since tried passing "vga=773" or "vga=normal" to the kernel at boot time > and both seem to get me past the screen going blank. (I also pass > "psmouse.proto=imps" so I can tap-click with my touchpad.) > > However, when I exit X - no matter what runlevel I am running in, the > screen goes immediately blank, backlight is powered off, and as far as I > can tell > the laptop is locked up. This applies to "Log Out", "Reboot", and > "Shutdown". I have found no related entries in my logs. I have also > tried passing "acpi=off" to the kernel. > > Anyone else have issues like this? I think it is a 2.6 issue more than > a FC2 issue. I have an hp ze4315us that has a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1. I tried the 2.5 kernel on it. It seemed to work alright then. (Shutting down X) - That was back awhile ago. I'd suspect the problem to be with xorg or some other non-kernel issue. I might try to install the 2.6 kernel on this machine to see if the kernel is not the problem. I stayed at FC1 because of the touchpad issue. (Doesn't just work). About acpi, I cannot boot without acpi. My laptop freezes up at boot without it. Follow-up after installing the latestv Fedora Core 2 kernel on FC1. I'd like to try FC2, but was waiting for the synaptic touchpad issue to be cleared up. Jim > > Thanks! > > Jed > > -- Good day for overcoming obstacles. Try a steeplechase. From rghf at fsck.me.uk Thu May 13 00:45:10 2004 From: rghf at fsck.me.uk (Rus Foster) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 01:45:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Startup file In-Reply-To: <40A2C250.1000809@matchmail.com> References: <40A2C250.1000809@matchmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 2004, Mark Gordon wrote: > Hi guys I want to add mozilla to the startup file. But I don`t now witch > is the start up file or how to add the mozilla to it. Im running FC2t3 > I new to Fedora and I appreciate any help > Thanks > Capsuna Try putting it in ~/.xinitrc Rus -- e: rghf at vpscolo.com : t: 1-888-327-6330 www.jvds.com - Root on your own box www.vpscolo.com - Your next hosting company www.cherryhosting.net - Shared Hosting With Everything On Top From feliciano.matias at free.fr Thu May 13 00:45:49 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 02:45:49 +0200 Subject: Needing missing version.h file in kernel-source-2.6.1-1.65 In-Reply-To: <20B016F1.210027BE.0E82DF66@netscape.net> References: <20B016F1.210027BE.0E82DF66@netscape.net> Message-ID: <1084409149.4235.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le jeu 13/05/2004 ? 00:01, Doug Robson a ?crit : > I have been trying to install the latest ALSA sound system from the > sources at alsa-project.org. > I need the kernel-source for my 2.6.1-1.65 kernel. Having downloaded the > kernel-source rpm and installed it, then going back to the ALSA build > and install scripts (make, make install, etc) I find that it complains > of not having a source file for "version.h" in > /usr/src/linux-2.6.1-1.65/linux/include/version.h. > Truly, there is no such file there. Use /lib/modules/2.6.5-1.358/build/include/linux/ . > I am wondering if the tree builders > and maintainers failed to take into consideration that the new > make clean clears out such files and so we are left with a rpm which > lacks all the files necessary? Not completely sure if I know what I'm > talking about, but am confused why this file would be missing. > > Would it be possible for someone else with this same kernel rev to > send me a copy of version.h? > > Doug > > __________________________________________________________________ > Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. > Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. 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Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > From lynn at garlic.com Thu May 13 01:05:25 2004 From: lynn at garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 19:05:25 -0600 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of memory In-Reply-To: <1084369917.11064.161.camel@lhwlinux> References: <20040512080208.636AA731D4@hormel.redhat.com> <1084369917.11064.161.camel@lhwlinux> Message-ID: <1084410325.11064.743.camel@lhwlinux> oops, cat /proc/meminfo really is: MemTotal: 3636020 kB MemFree: 2675056 kB Buffers: 207488 kB Cached: 274812 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 651764 kB Inactive: 200940 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree: 0 kB LowTotal: 3636020 kB LowFree: 2675056 kB SwapTotal: 8385528 kB SwapFree: 8385528 kB Dirty: 8 kB Writeback: 0 kB Mapped: 440756 kB Slab: 73200 kB Committed_AS: 590300 kB PageTables: 21060 kB VmallocTotal: 466936 kB VmallocUsed: 7472 kB VmallocChunk: 458640 kB HugePages_Total: 0 HugePages_Free: 0 Hugepagesize: 2048 kB -- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ From rpjday at mindspring.com Thu May 13 01:06:03 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Needing missing version.h file in kernel-source-2.6.1-1.65 In-Reply-To: <1084409149.4235.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20B016F1.210027BE.0E82DF66@netscape.net> <1084409149.4235.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: just go to the source tree and type # make include/linux/version.h at least, that *used* to work. rday From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Thu May 13 01:16:23 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:16:23 -0400 Subject: Startup file In-Reply-To: References: <40A2C250.1000809@matchmail.com> Message-ID: <1084410982.3990.6.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 01:45 +0100, Rus Foster wrote: > On Wed, 12 May 2004, Mark Gordon wrote: > > > Hi guys I want to add mozilla to the startup file. But I don`t now witch > > is the start up file or how to add the mozilla to it. Im running FC2t3 > > I new to Fedora and I appreciate any help > > Thanks > > Capsuna > > Try putting it in ~/.xinitrc or .kde/Autostart/ (ln -s `which mozilla` ~/.kde/Autostart) IFF (if and only if) you do KDE. From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Thu May 13 01:23:33 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:23:33 -0400 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 08:55 +0900, Makoto Fujiwara wrote: > Sorry, I now know it is in here: > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/images/ > > Thanks, I will try it later, That's the one - uses the latest/greatest kernel. Hope it works for you. Phil From makoto at ki.nu Thu May 13 01:31:22 2004 From: makoto at ki.nu (Makoto Fujiwara) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:31:22 +0900 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: Hi, Phil, thanks a lot, I got following file burned on CD-R/W but the symptom looks exactly the same. MD5 (boot.iso) = 4ec1babe368e78b84309a04ef44e3e7e -rw------- 1 makoto wheel 4153344 May 12 18:23 boot.iso Thanks always, --- Makoto Fujiwara, Harry is named for Harry Eaton From linux at bytebot.net Thu May 13 02:13:34 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:13:34 +1000 Subject: Samsung 213t TFT Not Supported By FC2T3 even In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084414413.6025.176.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 06:41, Tony Perrie wrote: > FC2T3 even, but that was implied. ddcprobe is being fixed for FC3 > I had to add the settings in manually. I believe the proper values are: > > Horizontal: 30-81Hz > Vertical: 56-75Hz > Resolution: 1600x1200 -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Thu May 13 02:17:19 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:17:19 -0400 Subject: Test results hp laptop and 2.6 kernel Message-ID: <40A2DAAF.1020702@insight.rr.com> I upgraded to the 2.6 kernel to see if the hp laptop display blanking was kernel related or something else. The display does not blank on my hp ze4315us laptop. I edited just the XF86Config file for FC1's version for the "/dev/input/mice" needed for the 2.6 kernels. The touchpad click was not touched. Upgrades selected by up2date to get the 2.6 kernel installed were the below. kernel-utils-2.4-9.1.131 glibc-2.3.3-27 ncurses-devel-5.4-5 readline-devel-4.3-10.1 glibc-common-2.3.3-27 libtermcap-devel-2.0.8-38 ncurses-5.4-5 shadow-utils-4.0.3-21 I had to manually download kernel-2.6.5-1.358 from the site. It must have been related to athlon arch for nptl 2.4 kernels compared to i686 arch versions for the 2.6. Not having the functionality of the synaptic touchpad tapping is a distraction for the 2.6 kernel. Jim -- Good day for overcoming obstacles. Try a steeplechase. From dmalcolm at redhat.com Thu May 13 02:44:34 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:44:34 -0400 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084416274.32489.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 10:43, David Malcolm wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 21:16 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 20:16, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > Full text of the release here: > > > http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2004/05/pr04034.html > > great news! > > > > > Any chance of getting this included in FC2? > > no, too late. But let's kindly ask J. Katz to provide FC2 rpms on his > > site :-D > > I've taken over packaging the new Evolution from Jeremy; you can get Evo > 1.5.7 from here now: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > (this is 1.5.7 plus some bugfixes plus a patch to use the new file > selector dialog) > > I'm working on the Connector stuff; should be there soon. OK - I've built the Ximian/Evolution Connector and put up a Yum repository here; it works for me on my FC2 rawhide with Evolution 1.4: http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm/evo-1-4-connector Dave > > Dave > > > > > -- > > Marius Andreiana > > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > > http://www.galuna.ro > > > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From vslim at insightbb.com Thu May 13 02:50:25 2004 From: vslim at insightbb.com (slim) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:50:25 -0500 Subject: Normal behavior, Or Bug? Message-ID: <1084416624.23061.12.camel@shovelhead.tkl> Hi, I was just wondering if this behavior is normal.. When copying text from any application and pasting to any other location, The copied text will be lost if the application from which you copied is shut down.. two examples if coping text from one terminal to another, the text copied will be lost if first terminal is exited before the paste operation. lets say I copy some text from my mail reader, shut down the mail reader then go to paste in any application the text is lost. Also on a side note, with evolution, I can not copy text from message body... I am having these problems on the two machines I have running fedora on. 1 is an amd upgraded from valhalla> shrike> FC1> FC2T3 the other is a clean install of FC2T3 pent-II Thanks for any insights From reader at newsguy.com Thu May 13 03:21:32 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:21:32 -0500 Subject: make vsftp more usable Message-ID: I don't understand what needs to happen to make vsftp usefull for my purpose. That is, on a trusted home lan where the only person logging in is me. I've set every permissive variable I could find as permissive as possible. But still on an anonymous login I can't upload anything and I cannot make directories. In other words its really useless. My config: [as root]: # egrep '^ *[^#]' /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf anonymous_enable=YES local_enable=YES write_enable=YES local_umask=022 anon_upload_enable=YES anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES dirmessage_enable=YES xferlog_enable=YES connect_from_port_20=YES chown_uploads=YES chown_username=ftp log_ftp_protocol=YES idle_session_timeout=300 ascii_upload_enable=YES ascii_download_enable=YES ftpd_banner="Welcome to my ignorant FTP service" ls_recurse_enable=YES pam_service_name=vsftpd listen=YES tcp_wrappers=YES And I've set very permissive permissions on /var/ftp/pub (This was set temporarily trying to get something to work) ls -l /var/ftp total 4 drwxrwxrwx 2 ftp ftp 4096 Feb 17 12:27 pub I'm thinking with `chown_username=ftp' enabled any upload should end up with chown ftp:ftp and therefore be allowed. Ditto with the mkdir So whats wrong here? This log output is from one short connection where I tried to upload a file named `something' on connect, then tried to `mkdir new' My log messages, although plentiful, are singularly non-usefull: (wrapped for mail) Wed May 12 22:12:02 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP command: Client "192.168.0.19", "TYPE I" Wed May 12 22:12:02 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP response: Client "192.168.0.19", "200 Switching to Binary mode." Wed May 12 22:12:02 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP command: Client "192.168.0.19", "EPSV" Wed May 12 22:12:02 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP response: Client "192.168.0.19", "229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||36661|)" Wed May 12 22:12:02 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP command: Client "192.168.0.19", "STOR something" Wed May 12 22:12:02 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP response: Client "192.168.0.19", "553 Could not create file." Wed May 12 22:12:04 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP command: Client "192.168.0.19", "MKD new" Wed May 12 22:12:04 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FAIL MKDIR: Client "192.168.0.19", "/new" Wed May 12 22:12:04 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP response: Client "192.168.0.19", "550 Create directory operation failed." Wed May 12 22:12:10 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP command: Client "192.168.0.19", "QUIT" Wed May 12 22:12:10 2004 [pid 12255] [ftp] FTP response: Client "192.168.0.19", "221 Goodbye." From joel_juliano at yahoo.com Thu May 13 03:40:41 2004 From: joel_juliano at yahoo.com (Joel Juliano) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: When can we see the inclusion of Video Players for Redhat Fedora? Message-ID: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> What have caused Redhat not to include Video Players for it's distribution?, I havent' seen Redhat including any Video Players since Redhat 8.0 Distribution, although the menu contains a Sound & "Video" container for it, but doesnt' contain any video player applications, like MPLAYER, XINE. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861 From tibbs at math.uh.edu Thu May 13 03:48:24 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 12 May 2004 22:48:24 -0500 Subject: make vsftp more usable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>>>> "HP" == Harry Putnam writes: HP> I've set every permissive variable I could find as permissive as HP> possible. But still on an anonymous login I can't upload anything HP> and I cannot make directories. In other words its really useless. Odd; I had no trouble at all. Just to see, I took a fresh FC1 install and did the following: yum install vsftpd vi /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf enable anon_upload_enable and anon_mkdir_write_enable mkdir /var/ftp/pub/incoming chown ftp.ftp !$ service vsftpd start Takes about 30 seconds. To check it out, from another machine: >lftp hurl lftp hurl:~> ls drwxr-xr-x 3 0 0 4096 May 13 03:40 pub lftp hurl:/> cd pub/incoming/ cd ok, cwd=/pub/incoming lftp hurl:/pub/incoming> mkdir blah mkdir ok, `blah' created lftp hurl:/pub/incoming> ls drwx------ 2 14 50 4096 May 13 03:42 blah lftp hurl:/pub/incoming> cd blah cd ok, cwd=/pub/incoming/blah lftp hurl:/pub/incoming/blah> ls lftp hurl:/pub/incoming/blah> put file 110211 bytes transferred lftp hurl:/pub/incoming/blah> ls -rw------- 1 14 50 110211 May 13 03:41 file So files can be uploaded and the anonymous user can make directories. - J< From feliciano.matias at free.fr Thu May 13 04:31:09 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 06:31:09 +0200 Subject: When can we see the inclusion of Video Players for Redhat Fedora? In-Reply-To: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084422669.4237.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le jeu 13/05/2004 ? 05:40, Joel Juliano a ?crit : > What have caused Redhat not to include Video Players > for it's distribution?, I havent' seen Redhat > including any Video Players since Redhat 8.0 > Distribution, although the menu contains a Sound & > "Video" container for it, but doesnt' contain any > video player applications, like MPLAYER, XINE. > > Patent problems : http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_80mm.html From markf78 at yahoo.com Thu May 13 04:38:40 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: yum-mirror file for development dir?? In-Reply-To: <20040512212507.954237537B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040513043840.17358.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- should there be a up2date "yum-mirror" file @ http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/ for the development directory? i noticed there was a bunch of files there but i could not find one for development. thanks everyone... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861 From cheeb2002 at comcast.net Thu May 13 04:46:49 2004 From: cheeb2002 at comcast.net (James Jensen) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:46:49 -0500 Subject: Sound on Intel i845 in test3 Message-ID: <40A2FDB9.2010908@comcast.net> I'm currently running FC2 test3 (which I upgraded to from FC1) on a computer that uses Intel i845 integrated sound chipset. My problem is that while my chipset is properly detected by the soundcard detection tool, I cannot get audio to work on my computer. This problem did not occur with FC1, and there is no problem with sound on Windows (I have the machine set up for a duel-boot). Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? From david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au Thu May 13 04:51:12 2004 From: david_walcroft at yahoo.com.au (david walcroft) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:51:12 +1000 Subject: Needing missing version.h file in kernel-source-2.6.1-1.65 In-Reply-To: References: <20B016F1.210027BE.0E82DF66@netscape.net> <1084409149.4235.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A2FEC0.4060502@yahoo.com.au> Robert P. J. Day wrote: > just go to the source tree and type > > # make include/linux/version.h > > at least, that *used* to work. > > rday > > Still does [root at reddwarf linux-2.6.5-1.358]# make include/linux/version.h make: `include/linux/version.h' is up to date. david From law at redhat.com Thu May 13 04:53:13 2004 From: law at redhat.com (law at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:53:13 -0600 Subject: Samsung 213t TFT Not Supported By FC2T3 even In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 2004 12:13:34 +1000." <1084414413.6025.176.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <200405130453.i4D4rDKB007552@speedy.slc.redhat.com> In message <1084414413.6025.176.camel at albus.aeon.com.my>, Colin Charles writes: >On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 06:41, Tony Perrie wrote: >> FC2T3 even, but that was implied. > >ddcprobe is being fixed for FC3 > >> I had to add the settings in manually. I believe the proper values are: >> >> Horizontal: 30-81Hz >> Vertical: 56-75Hz >> Resolution: 1600x1200 Odd, my wife and I both have a 213T that we've been using at 1600x1200 without significant hackery. The only thing that was necessary to make it work was to convince my laptop to turn off the internal display, once that was done the 213T worked flawlessly. The 213T worked without any hackery at all on my wife's desktop box. jeff From h.mayer at inode.at Thu May 13 04:53:58 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 06:53:58 +0200 Subject: X crashes when googling for 'openmosix "currently disabled"' In-Reply-To: <40A294E0.5010504@redhat.com> References: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> <1084392105.9945.196351487@webmail.messagingengine.com> <40A2875D.5040106@inode.at> <40A294E0.5010504@redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A2FF66.1000407@inode.at> Warren Togami wrote: > Can you please bzip2 the saved HTML and send it to the list, or post at > URL? Yep, will do in a few hours (I'm on a different machine right now) > Which binary exactly of mozilla 1.7rc1 did you use? I use Moz1.7RC1 build 2004042110 directly from mozilla.org, which crashes X. I tried 1.6 which came with F2T3 and that one works. build 2004042223 (with xft enabled) from http://www.scottbolander.com/mozilla-xft.html works. So it seems it was a bug in Mozilla and it is already solved. At least the later build didn't crash... Thanks, Hannes. From reader at newsguy.com Thu May 13 04:59:21 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:59:21 -0500 Subject: make vsftp more usable In-Reply-To: (Jason L. Tibbitts, III's message of "12 May 2004 22:48:24 -0500") References: Message-ID: Jason L Tibbitts III writes: >>>>>> "HP" == Harry Putnam writes: > > HP> I've set every permissive variable I could find as permissive as > HP> possible. But still on an anonymous login I can't upload anything > HP> and I cannot make directories. In other words its really useless. > > Odd; I had no trouble at all. Just to see, I took a fresh FC1 install > and did the following: > > yum install vsftpd > vi /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf > enable anon_upload_enable and anon_mkdir_write_enable > mkdir /var/ftp/pub/incoming > chown ftp.ftp !$ > service vsftpd start > > Takes about 30 seconds. To check it out, from another machine: Thanks.... Well I didn't really ask if it was possible. I showed my setup and asked if anyone could see what was wrong with it. But anyway: I spent a little longer than 30 seconds and followed your recipe to the letter aside from using yum. And bingo.... it works just like yours did. So now I can back up and start adding the same configs I had originally until it breaks and I'll know what was causing my trouble. Thanks again From cdrobsonjr at netscape.net Thu May 13 05:10:54 2004 From: cdrobsonjr at netscape.net (Doug Robson) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 01:10:54 -0400 Subject: Needing missing version.h file in kernel-source-2.6.1-1.65 Message-ID: <626922F1.7E1BD087.0E82DF66@netscape.net> Because I tried updating to FC2T3 and was shot down for 4K stack problem. I have nVidia nForce2 motherboard with onboard MCP sound and I have an nVidia Fx5600 graphic card. So I just am forced to stay with what still works with all this nVidia stuff. 4K also kills the Linuxant driver for my wireless ethernet card. Wakarimaska? Doug Warren Togami wrote: >Doug Robson wrote: >> I have been trying to install the latest ALSA sound system from the >> sources at alsa-project.org. >> I need the kernel-source for my 2.6.1-1.65 kernel. ?Having downloaded the >> kernel-source rpm and installed it, then going back to the ALSA build >> and install scripts (make, make install, etc) I find that it complains >> of not having a source file for "version.h" in >> /usr/src/linux-2.6.1-1.65/linux/include/version.h. > >Why do you need to use an extremely old kernel... the original from >FC2Test1? > >Warren > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From emmett at mindpie.com Thu May 13 05:41:20 2004 From: emmett at mindpie.com (Emmett Culley) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:41:20 -0700 Subject: Intel 82801 sound problem Message-ID: <40A30A80.7080601@mindpie.com> I have a problem with an 82801EB (Intel) sound chipset. I get a continual rumble from my speakers. When I run the soundcard detection app, it is detected and I can barely hear, under the rumble, the test sound. System: P4 3GHz Shuttle motherboard Sound worked perfectly with RH 9 installed. I cannot find any references in Google. Anyone having a similar problem? Emmett From roger at gwch.net Thu May 13 05:54:42 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 07:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Update Test 1 -> Test 3 Message-ID: <35449.62.2.21.164.1084427682.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Hi, i tried to update from fc/t1 to t3. It seems all to work, except my X-configuration. Here's the cut of my log. He says, he has problems with the mouse...if if loof at the first line (Cirrus(0)....) i think this should be my video-card. But he recognizes it alright. What can be the cause for this? Thx. Roger [root at gandalf log]# more Xorg.0.log | grep EE (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) CIRRUS(0): No valid MMIO address in PCI config space (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psmouse (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" [root at gandalf log]# From abraxis at telkomsa.net Thu May 13 05:57:54 2004 From: abraxis at telkomsa.net (Neil Thompson) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 07:57:54 +0200 Subject: latest yum.conf error? Message-ID: <20040513055754.GI4222@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> I've just updated to the latest dev yum (2.0.7-1.1) and I've noticed that there's been a change from distroverpkg=fedora-release to distroverpkg=redhat-release Isn't this going to cause problems? Cheers! (relax...have a homebrew) Neil From lunix at comcast.net Thu May 13 06:04:36 2004 From: lunix at comcast.net (Prasanth Kumar) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:04:36 -0700 Subject: Update Test 1 -> Test 3 In-Reply-To: <35449.62.2.21.164.1084427682.squirrel@www.gwch.net> References: <35449.62.2.21.164.1084427682.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: <1084428276.11029.1.camel@zeus.comcast.net> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 07:54 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > Hi, > > i tried to update from fc/t1 to t3. It seems all to work, except my X-configuration. Here's the cut of my log. He > says, he has problems with the mouse...if if loof at the first line (Cirrus(0)....) i think this should be my > video-card. But he recognizes it alright. What can be the cause for this? > > Thx. > Roger > > [root at gandalf log]# more Xorg.0.log | grep EE > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > (EE) CIRRUS(0): No valid MMIO address in PCI config space > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psmouse > (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" > [root at gandalf log]# > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list I think I faced the same problem a while back. Try editing your X configuration with /dev/input/mice in place of /dev/psmouse. Either that or /dev/psaux. I can't recall what I changed but that is what is in my file currently. From greg at gulik.org Thu May 13 06:05:58 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 01:05:58 -0500 Subject: Upgraded to FC2T3 from RH8 and some problems. Message-ID: <40A31046.8070206@gulik.org> I don't know if upgrading fro RH8 is "supported" but I just tried it on an old box. For the most part it went ok but I noticed two things: The /etc/security/selinux directory doesn't exist. bmptoppm doesn't work: $ bmptoppm a.bmp > a.ppm bmptoppm: Windows BMP, 1842x1374x24 bmptoppm: Zero byte allocation Any ideas? -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg at gulik.org http://www.drivingevents.com/ From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu May 13 06:07:18 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 02:07:18 -0400 Subject: latest yum.conf error? In-Reply-To: <20040513055754.GI4222@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> References: <20040513055754.GI4222@eeyore.32.boerneef.vornavalley> Message-ID: <1084428437.11754.5.camel@binkley> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 07:57 +0200, Neil Thompson wrote: > I've just updated to the latest dev yum (2.0.7-1.1) and I've noticed > that there's been a change from > > distroverpkg=fedora-release > > to > > distroverpkg=redhat-release > > Isn't this going to cause problems? > > > Cheers! (relax...have a homebrew) > no. yum uses distroverpkg to check the release version - it looks for any package that is named that or that PROVIDES that. As it was put to me by Elliot, by putting redhat-release in that field it will work just fine for fedora core and it will work for RHEL, as well. -sv From roger at gwch.net Thu May 13 06:34:08 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:34:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Update Test 1 -> Test 3 In-Reply-To: <1084428276.11029.1.camel@zeus.comcast.net> References: <35449.62.2.21.164.1084427682.squirrel@www.gwch.net> <1084428276.11029.1.camel@zeus.comcast.net> Message-ID: <30742.62.2.21.164.1084430048.squirrel@www.gwch.net> > On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 07:54 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: >> Hi, >> >> i tried to update from fc/t1 to t3. It seems all to work, except my X-configuration. Here's the cut of my log. He >> says, he has problems with the mouse...if if loof at the first line (Cirrus(0)....) i think this should be my >> video-card. But he recognizes it alright. What can be the cause for this? >> >> Thx. >> Roger >> >> [root at gandalf log]# more Xorg.0.log | grep EE >> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >> (EE) CIRRUS(0): No valid MMIO address in PCI config space >> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psmouse >> (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device >> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" >> [root at gandalf log]# >> >> >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > I think I faced the same problem a while back. Try editing your X > configuration with /dev/input/mice in place of /dev/psmouse. Either that > or /dev/psaux. I can't recall what I changed but that is what is > in my file currently. > > > i am gonne try the /dev/input/mice as i already had the /dev/psaux and it didn't work..gonna let you know... Thx Roger From roger at gwch.net Thu May 13 06:56:59 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:56:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Update Test 1 -> Test 3 In-Reply-To: <1084428276.11029.1.camel@zeus.comcast.net> References: <35449.62.2.21.164.1084427682.squirrel@www.gwch.net> <1084428276.11029.1.camel@zeus.comcast.net> Message-ID: <58829.62.2.21.164.1084431419.squirrel@www.gwch.net> > On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 07:54 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: >> Hi, >> >> i tried to update from fc/t1 to t3. It seems all to work, except my X-configuration. Here's the cut of my log. He >> says, he has problems with the mouse...if if loof at the first line (Cirrus(0)....) i think this should be my >> video-card. But he recognizes it alright. What can be the cause for this? >> >> Thx. >> Roger >> >> [root at gandalf log]# more Xorg.0.log | grep EE >> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >> (EE) CIRRUS(0): No valid MMIO address in PCI config space >> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psmouse >> (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device >> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0" >> [root at gandalf log]# >> >> >> -- >> fedora-test-list mailing list >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > I think I faced the same problem a while back. Try editing your X > configuration with /dev/input/mice in place of /dev/psmouse. Either that > or /dev/psaux. I can't recall what I changed but that is what is > in my file currently. > > > Seems that /dev/input/mice was the right choice... root 9640 1 0 08:42 ? 00:00:02 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon root 9688 3 0 08:43 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush] root 9689 9640 0 08:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon -->root 9690 9689 0 08:43 ? 00:00:09 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 gdm 9698 9689 0 08:44 ? 00:00:08 /usr/bin/gdmgreeter From kevin at arslinux.com Thu May 13 07:06:50 2004 From: kevin at arslinux.com (Kevin Francis) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:06:50 +0800 Subject: i2c-proc module not included with kernel 2.6.5-1.358 Message-ID: <1084432010.4718.1.camel@aerie> I can't seem to find that module with the latest kernel. Should I file a bug? Or is this intentional? Can someone confirm this is not just me? Thanks. -- Kevin Francis From alan at redhat.com Thu May 13 07:26:41 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 03:26:41 -0400 Subject: When can we see the inclusion of Video Players for Redhat Fedora? In-Reply-To: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040513072641.GA26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 08:40:41PM -0700, Joel Juliano wrote: > What have caused Redhat not to include Video Players > for it's distribution?, I havent' seen Redhat The problem in the USA is patents. That limits most of the video codecs available today. In theory we could distribute apps based on Theora and QV30 but neither has anything useful to ship. Alan From alan at redhat.com Thu May 13 07:28:41 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 03:28:41 -0400 Subject: Normal behavior, Or Bug? In-Reply-To: <1084416624.23061.12.camel@shovelhead.tkl> References: <1084416624.23061.12.camel@shovelhead.tkl> Message-ID: <20040513072841.GB26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 09:50:25PM -0500, slim wrote: > Hi, > I was just wondering if this behavior is normal.. > When copying text from any application and pasting to any other > location, The copied text will be lost if the application from which you > copied is shut down.. This is a property of how X selection works. There has been considerable discussion on the Gnome lists about whether to change this. From alan at redhat.com Thu May 13 07:31:48 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 03:31:48 -0400 Subject: Upgraded to FC2T3 from RH8 and some problems. In-Reply-To: <40A31046.8070206@gulik.org> References: <40A31046.8070206@gulik.org> Message-ID: <20040513073148.GC26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 01:05:58AM -0500, Gregory Gulik wrote: > I don't know if upgrading fro RH8 is "supported" but I just tried it on > an old box. For the most part it went ok but I noticed two things: > > The /etc/security/selinux directory doesn't exist. Known > > bmptoppm doesn't work: > $ bmptoppm a.bmp > a.ppm > bmptoppm: Windows BMP, 1842x1374x24 > bmptoppm: Zero byte allocation > Please bugzilla and if you can attach an example image showing the bug that would be ideal From kjones at develop.com Thu May 13 07:35:51 2004 From: kjones at develop.com (Kevin Jones) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:35:51 +0100 Subject: Sound In-Reply-To: <40A21788.9050602@earthlink.net> References: <1084359781.3567.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A21788.9050602@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1084433751.3150.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thanks, On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 13:24, Gerry Tool wrote: > Kevin Jones wrote: > > I have a weird sound problem on Fedora Core2-Test3. I can play CDs, and > > I can play sound files that are on the computer, however I don't get any > > system sounds. The sound daemon (esd) is running and I've enabled system > > sounds through the gnome-sound-properties (oh, did I say this was on > > Gnome). Any ideas would be gratefully received, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin Jones > > > > > This is a bug. See > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122927 > > Gerry Tool > From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Thu May 13 07:37:41 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:37:41 +0300 Subject: Normal behavior, Or Bug? In-Reply-To: <20040513072841.GB26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084416624.23061.12.camel@shovelhead.tkl> <20040513072841.GB26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084433861.14467.2.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 10:28, Alan Cox wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 09:50:25PM -0500, slim wrote: > > Hi, > > I was just wondering if this behavior is normal.. > > When copying text from any application and pasting to any other > > location, The copied text will be lost if the application from which you > > copied is shut down.. > > This is a property of how X selection works. There has been considerable > discussion on the Gnome lists about whether to change this. > There seems to be a change in how standard out works. In fc1, if I closed down a window which was receiving log message from a background app, the app continued and the messages went to who knows where. In FC2, the app terminates. Is this deliberate? From kevin at arslinux.com Thu May 13 07:39:14 2004 From: kevin at arslinux.com (Kevin Francis) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:39:14 +0800 Subject: Normal behavior, Or Bug? In-Reply-To: <1084416624.23061.12.camel@shovelhead.tkl> References: <1084416624.23061.12.camel@shovelhead.tkl> Message-ID: <1084433954.4718.13.camel@aerie> That's normal behaviour - the copy/paste model is still being resolved over @ freedesktop.org. As for evolution, use the right click menu/edit menu after selection and copy. Hope this helps. On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 10:50, slim wrote: > Hi, > I was just wondering if this behavior is normal.. > When copying text from any application and pasting to any other > location, The copied text will be lost if the application from which you > copied is shut down.. > > two examples > > if coping text from one terminal to another, the text copied will be > lost if first terminal is exited before the paste operation. > > lets say I copy some text from my mail reader, shut down the mail reader > then go to paste in any application the text is lost. > > Also on a side note, with evolution, I can not copy text from message > body... > > I am having these problems on the two machines I have running fedora on. > > 1 is an amd upgraded from valhalla> shrike> FC1> FC2T3 > > the other is a clean install of FC2T3 pent-II > > Thanks for any insights -- Kevin Francis From kjones at develop.com Thu May 13 07:42:16 2004 From: kjones at develop.com (Kevin Jones) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:42:16 +0100 Subject: Trying to Use Synaptic Message-ID: <1084434123.3150.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> There is hopefully a simple answer to this. I've installed apt on Fedora core2-test3 and I want to use synaptic. However when I do an apt-get install synaptic I see this The following packages have unmet dependencies: synaptic: Depends: librpm-4.2.so but it is not installable Depends: librpmdb-4.2.so but it is not installable Depends: librpmio-4.2.so but it is not installable I'm assuming that it's a mistmatch of RPM versions, so, is there a way to fix the version mismatch and/or are there apt repositories for RPM 4.3, or is it something else? Thanks, Kevin Jones From yusufg at outblaze.com Thu May 13 08:07:59 2004 From: yusufg at outblaze.com (Yusuf Goolamabbas) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 16:07:59 +0800 Subject: Shouldn't /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources now not refer to rawhide repos Message-ID: <20040513080759.GA29870@outblaze.com> Hi, This is the current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources on my fc2test3 box as of today. Shouldn't the repos be pointing to the FC2 release build or should they continue to point to rawhide ### this describes the various package repos up2date will look into ### for packages. It currently supports apt-rpm repos, yum repos, ### and "dir" repos ### format is one repo entry per line, # starts comments, the ### first word on each line is the type of repo. ### the default rhn (using "default" as the url means ### use the one in the up2date config file #up2date default ### When a channel-label is required for the non up2date repo's, ### the label is solely used as an internal identifier and is not ### based on the url or any other info from the repo. ### an apt style repo, this time arjanv's 2.6 kernel repo ### format is: ### type channel-label service:server path repo name #apt arjan-2.6-kernel-i386 http://people.redhat.com ~arjanv/2.5/ kernel ### Note that for apt repos, there can be multiple repo names specified ### space seperated. ### an yum style repo ### format: ### type channel-label url yum fedora-core-rawhide http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$ARCH/ yum-mirror fedora-core-rawhide http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide #yum fedore-core-2-test1-updates http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-1 #yum-mirror fedora-core-1 http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-1 #yum-mirror updates-released http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released #yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever #yum-mirror updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-testing ### a local directory full of packages ### format #dir my-favorite-rpms-i386-9 /var/spool/RPMS/ # multiple versions of all repos except "up2date" can be used. Deps # can be resolved "cross-repo" if need be. From pmatilai at welho.com Thu May 13 08:22:10 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:22:10 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Trying to Use Synaptic In-Reply-To: <1084434123.3150.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084434123.3150.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 May 2004, Kevin Jones wrote: > There is hopefully a simple answer to this. I've installed apt on Fedora > core2-test3 and I want to use synaptic. However when I do an > > apt-get install synaptic > > I see this > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > synaptic: Depends: librpm-4.2.so but it is not installable > Depends: librpmdb-4.2.so but it is not installable > Depends: librpmio-4.2.so but it is not installable > > I'm assuming that it's a mistmatch of RPM versions, so, is there a way > to fix the version mismatch and/or are there apt repositories for RPM > 4.3, or is it something else? Your apt sources are apparently pointing to FC1 repository which contains a synaptic built against rpm-4.2.x. Fix the sources to use FC2(test) repository instead. - Panu - From harald at redhat.com Thu May 13 08:25:05 2004 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:25:05 +0200 Subject: what does this 'cdrom: open failed' message mean In-Reply-To: <20040510110313.GB2756@home.nl> References: <20040510110313.GB2756@home.nl> Message-ID: <40A330E1.6080305@redhat.com> Alexander Volovics wrote: > System Log/Kernel Startup Log contain the message: > > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: device-mapper: 4.1.0-ioctl (2003-12-10) initialised: dm at uk.sistina.com > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: hdb: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: hdb: packet command error: error=0x51 > May 10 12:05:15 if kernel: cdrom: open failed. > > However the device seems to be working OK. > What triggers this message and can I just ignore it. > > Alexander > > I think this is lvm scanning all devices for LVM volumes. It tries to open /dev/hdb and scan its partition table. From jon.homan.nospam at blueyonder.co.uk Thu May 13 08:25:46 2004 From: jon.homan.nospam at blueyonder.co.uk (Jon Homan) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:25:46 +0100 Subject: Sound on Intel i845 in test3 In-Reply-To: <40A2FDB9.2010908@comcast.net> References: <40A2FDB9.2010908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <40A3310A.2070909@blueyonder.co.uk> James Jensen wrote: > I'm currently running FC2 test3 (which I upgraded to from FC1) on a > computer that uses Intel i845 integrated sound chipset. > > My problem is that while my chipset is properly detected by the > soundcard detection tool, I cannot get audio to work on my computer. > This problem did not occur with FC1, and there is no problem with sound > on Windows (I have the machine set up for a duel-boot). > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? > > I have a similar problem on a Dell D600 laptop and Intel sound using Test1 and Test3. Bizarrely it worked fine on Test2. The problem I have is the sound modules are not loaded at bootup, even though they are correctly in /etc/modprobe.conf. I haven't figured out why yet - anyone else know? A workaround is to manually load the modules. Before logging into KDE (or presumably Gnome also), switch to a VT and try this: # lsmod | grep intel If that doesn't find anything the modules are not loaded, so: # modprobe snd-intel8x0 MC'97 1 converters and GPIO not ready (0xff00) # lsmod | grep intel snd_intel8x0 26280 1 snd_ac97_codec 50436 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm 68872 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_page_alloc 7940 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm gameport 3328 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_mpu401_uart 4864 1 snd_intel8x0 snd 38372 9 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device Now switch back to X and login. Sound should work. I think the reason system-config-soundcard works is because it must do a modprobe first - maybe someone else can confirm this. If it is any help, my modprobe.conf is: # cat /etc/modprobe.conf alias eth0 tg3 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd Jon From fedora at andrewfarris.com Thu May 13 08:47:29 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 01:47:29 -0700 Subject: Shouldn't /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources now not refer to rawhide repos In-Reply-To: <20040513080759.GA29870@outblaze.com> References: <20040513080759.GA29870@outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1084438048.14223.4.camel@CirithUngol> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 16:07 +0800, Yusuf Goolamabbas wrote: > Hi, This is the current /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources on my fc2test3 box as > of today. > > Shouldn't the repos be pointing to the FC2 release build or should they > continue to point to rawhide Take a look for /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources.rpmnew, my system does have the FC2 entries. In fact, its a good idea to scan your whole setup for .rpmnew, .rpmold, .rpmorign, and .rpmsave files regularly after testing updates. #-> locate *.rpm???? *.rpm??? yum fedora-core-2 http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-2 yum updates-released-fc2 http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-2 yum-mirror fedora-core-2 http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 yum-mirror updates-released-fc2 http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From wtogami at redhat.com Thu May 13 11:46:10 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 01:46:10 -1000 Subject: Needing missing version.h file in kernel-source-2.6.1-1.65 In-Reply-To: <626922F1.7E1BD087.0E82DF66@netscape.net> References: <626922F1.7E1BD087.0E82DF66@netscape.net> Message-ID: <40A36002.3090103@redhat.com> Doug Robson wrote: > Because I tried updating to FC2T3 and was shot down for 4K stack problem. > I have nVidia nForce2 motherboard with onboard MCP sound and I have > an nVidia Fx5600 graphic card. So I just am forced to stay with what > still works with all this nVidia stuff. > 4K also kills the Linuxant driver for my wireless ethernet card. > Wakarimaska? Wakatta. You would be a lot better off either using a vanilla kernel built from scratch with 4K stacks disabled, or the 2.6.5-1.358 i586 kernel which also has it disabled. 2.6.1-1.65 is a VERY ancient kernel. Warren From masterra at m-ra.net Thu May 13 12:11:02 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 07:11:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: kernel oops with iwconfig wlan0 [ ndiswrapper ] In-Reply-To: References: <20040512144311.GA4650@psych> <1084384592.3374.6.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> <1084387274.2365.5.camel@dude.zippysoft.com> Message-ID: Someone might have said this already, but i just thought i'd point out that i've been using ndiswrapper with the broadcom driver on all the new kernels with no problems. The nvidia driver, however, is in very sad shape :) I even tried all the patch removals, and hand-editing, and although i got the driver to load wtihout crashing, and X to start, if i started a windowed opengl app, it ran very slowly, and if i started a fullscreen app (ie, tuxracer, Quake3, ET, etc), the system immediatly froze. -Quasar On Wed, 12 May 2004, Satish Balay wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 May 2004, Sarah Pearson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 19:09, Satish Balay wrote: > > > > > I believe ndiswrapper/linuxant stuff doesn't work on FC2beta kernels > > > due to the 4G/4G stuff in the kenel (along with nvidia binary drivers) > > > There should be more info regarding this in the archives.. > > > > > > I don't know if the same issue affects madwifi. I would certainly like > > > to know if anyone is able to use madwifi on FC2T3+ kernel successfully. > > > > I have done some more experimenting and think I have found the solution > > to my problem at least. > > > > There seems to be some sort of conflict perhaps between the order it > > initialises ath0 and loads pcmcia. If I dont load pcmcia at boot, then > > the wireless card comes straight up without oopsing. > > > > Stop pcmcia-cs from starting on boot (system-config-services) and put > > the following into /etc/rc.modules > > > > #!/bin/bash > > /sbin/modprobe yenta_socket > > /sbin/modprobe ds > > > > chmod +x /etc/rc.modules > > > > I have a ifcfg.ath0 file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ which brings > > up my wireless network on boot. > > I just tried again (with latest FC2beta kernel & madwifi CVS). I can bring > up ath0 - but it hangs after some data transfer. This is a mini-pci card. > I havne't tried to eliminate any pcmcia conflict though.. > > Satish > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From masterra at m-ra.net Thu May 13 12:15:21 2004 From: masterra at m-ra.net (Quasar Jarosz) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 07:15:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: 2.6 and Blanking Screen In-Reply-To: <40A2C34F.6010204@insight.rr.com> References: <40A2C34F.6010204@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > Jason KRISCH wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone else on this list was experiencing similar > > results: > > > > With FC2T3 on my laptop (HP Pavilion ze5200) I had several issues with > > the screen going blank (and the backlight turning off too) during boot. > > It seemed to happen at random places at different times during boot. > > The system > > would be locked as far as I could tell and I had to power off. I have > > since tried passing "vga=773" or "vga=normal" to the kernel at boot time > > and both seem to get me past the screen going blank. (I also pass > > "psmouse.proto=imps" so I can tap-click with my touchpad.) > > > > However, when I exit X - no matter what runlevel I am running in, the > > screen goes immediately blank, backlight is powered off, and as far as I > > can tell > > the laptop is locked up. This applies to "Log Out", "Reboot", and > > "Shutdown". I have found no related entries in my logs. I have also > > tried passing "acpi=off" to the kernel. > > > > Anyone else have issues like this? I think it is a 2.6 issue more than > > a FC2 issue. > > I have an hp ze4315us that has a VGA compatible controller: ATI > Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1. > > I tried the 2.5 kernel on it. It seemed to work alright then. (Shutting > down X) - That was back awhile ago. > > I'd suspect the problem to be with xorg or some other non-kernel issue. > > I might try to install the 2.6 kernel on this machine to see if the > kernel is not the problem. I stayed at FC1 because of the touchpad > issue. (Doesn't just work). > > About acpi, I cannot boot without acpi. My laptop freezes up at boot > without it. > > Follow-up after installing the latestv Fedora Core 2 kernel on FC1. I'd > like to try FC2, but was waiting for the synaptic touchpad issue to be > cleared up. > > Jim > I've got a Pavillion ze4430us, with the same ATI Mobility U1 card, that FC2 auto-detects and uses the radeon driver with. I have no problems on any of the latest kernels. I've seen the blanking problem on other laptops, but have had no trouble with this one. It works just fine for me. I'd really like the hardware aceleration to work.. but i guess i'll have to wait on it. As for the synaptics touch-pad, it was sad that it's not auto-detected, however, given that the FC2 release date is very close at hand, unless it's arleady been "fixed", i doubt support will be in the official FC2 release. I can say however, that setting it up was very easy - just grab the synaptics driver, unzip, compile, install, and change the driver lines in your xorg.conf, just like the install file from the driver says. It works great after that, no problems at all. -Quasar > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jed > > > > > > > -- > Good day for overcoming obstacles. Try a steeplechase. > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From gbenson at redhat.com Thu May 13 12:34:36 2004 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:34:36 +0100 Subject: Tettnang??? In-Reply-To: References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20040513123434.GA6367@redhat.com> Michael Knepher wrote: > On Wed, 12 May 2004 17:08:17 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > OK, so what's a Tettnang? > > Yarrow Yar"row, n. OE. yarowe, yarwe, yogharowe, AS. > gearwe; akin to D. gerw, OHG. garwa, garawa, G. garbe, > schafgarbe, and perhaps to E. yare. (Bot.) > An American and European composite plant (Achillea > Millefolium) with very finely dissected leaves and small > white corymbed flowers. It has a strong, and somewhat > aromatic, odor and taste, and is sometimes used in making > beer, or is dried for smoking. Called also milfoil, and > nosebleed. We so should have called FC2 "nosebleed" :) From sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de Thu May 13 12:43:30 2004 From: sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de (Ralf Sigmund) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:43:30 +0200 Subject: libstdc++.so.5 32 bit version on x86_64 fc2 Message-ID: <40A36D72.7090002@ipk-gatersleben.de> I have some binary only programs which require the 32 bit version of libstdc++.so.5 on this opteron fc2 machine libstdc++.so.5 is in /usr/lib/lib64 not /usr/lib so theese are the 64 bit libs. they are not found by the executable. I could fix this by symlinking, but wouldn't that mess up my whole system making 32 bit binaries belive they used a 32 bit lib? Are there additional 32 bit packages ? tia ralf _______________________________________________________ Dr. Ralf Sigmund IPK Gatersleben - AG Bioinformatik v: ++49 (0)39482 5 659 f: ++49 (0)39482 5 595 e: sigmund at ipk-gatersleben.de w: http://pgrc.ipk-gatersleben.de/ From dwolinski at ll.mit.edu Thu May 13 13:16:35 2004 From: dwolinski at ll.mit.edu (David Wolinski) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:16:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: powernow-k8 trouble on FC2T3 Message-ID: Hello, I've got a laptop (Hypersonic model Aviator AX6 with Athlon 64) running Fedora Core 2 Test 3 (kernel 2.6.5-1.327) and I was interested in using CPU frequency scaling since /proc/cpuinfo shows my CPU at its lower speed. So I rebuilt a custom kernel with the CPU_FREQ options selected. When I boot using the new kernel and then add the powernow-k8 module to the kernel using > modprobe powernow-k8 I see in /var/log/messages the lines powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.00.08b) powernow-k8: BIOS error: numpst must be 1 and as far as I can tell, nothing else happens. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a fix for this issue? Thanks for any help. -------------------------------- Here are some CPUFREQ-related lines from my custom kernel .config file: # # CPU Frequency scaling # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ=y # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_PROC_INTF is not set # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_PERFORMANCE is not set CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE=m CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=y # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_24_API is not set CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE=y # # CPUFreq processor drivers # CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ=m # CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ_PROC_INTF is not set # CONFIG_X86_POWERNOW_K6 is not set # CONFIG_X86_POWERNOW_K7 is not set CONFIG_X86_POWERNOW_K8=m # CONFIG_X86_GX_SUSPMOD is not set CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO=y CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO_TABLE=y CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO_ACPI=y CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_ICH=y CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_SMI=m CONFIG_X86_P4_CLOCKMOD=m CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_LIB=y # CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_RELAXED_CAP_CHECK is not set CONFIG_X86_LONGRUN=y CONFIG_X86_LONGHAUL=y From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Thu May 13 13:26:39 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: yum-mirror file for development dir?? In-Reply-To: <20040513043840.17358.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040512212507.954237537B@hormel.redhat.com> <20040513043840.17358.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4106.12.29.16.103.1084454799.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Mark Fonnemann said: > Hello- > > should there be a up2date "yum-mirror" file @ > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/ for the development > directory? fedora-core-rawhide -- William Hooper From heiny at eznet.net Thu May 13 05:44:31 2004 From: heiny at eznet.net (Christopher Heiny) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:44:31 -0700 Subject: Sound on Intel i845 in test3 In-Reply-To: <20040513045959.85F7273B75@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040513045959.85F7273B75@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405122244.32099.heiny@eznet.net> On Wednesday 12 May 2004 09:59 pm, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com scribed thusly in the great archives: > I'm currently running FC2 test3 (which I upgraded to from FC1) on a > computer that uses Intel i845 integrated sound chipset. > > My problem is that while my chipset is properly detected by the > soundcard detection tool, I cannot get audio to work on my computer. > This problem did not occur with FC1, and there is no problem with sound > on Windows (I have the machine set up for a duel-boot). > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Hmmmm. If you open xosview, do you see the symptom that after an attempt at sound (even a simple console beep in KDE, for example) the CPU usage pegs at 100% system for 20 seconds to a minute? From davej at redhat.com Thu May 13 14:37:54 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:37:54 +0100 Subject: powernow-k8 trouble on FC2T3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084459074.9534.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 14:16, David Wolinski wrote: > I've got a laptop (Hypersonic model Aviator AX6 with Athlon 64) > running Fedora Core 2 Test 3 (kernel 2.6.5-1.327) and I was interested in > using CPU frequency scaling since /proc/cpuinfo shows my CPU at its lower > speed. So I rebuilt a custom kernel with the CPU_FREQ options selected. > When I boot using the new kernel and then add the powernow-k8 module to > the kernel using > > > modprobe powernow-k8 > > I see in /var/log/messages the lines > > powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.00.08b) > powernow-k8: BIOS error: numpst must be 1 > > and as far as I can tell, nothing else happens. > > Am I doing something wrong, or is there a fix for this issue? Later kernels should have this fixed (it falls back to ACPI tables when the PST tables are bogus) Dave From davej at redhat.com Thu May 13 14:44:21 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:44:21 +0100 Subject: i2c-proc module not included with kernel 2.6.5-1.358 In-Reply-To: <1084432010.4718.1.camel@aerie> References: <1084432010.4718.1.camel@aerie> Message-ID: <1084459461.9534.2.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 08:06, Kevin Francis wrote: > I can't seem to find that module with the latest kernel. Should I file a > bug? Or is this intentional? Can someone confirm this is not just me? iirc, 2.6's i2c code uses /sys instead of /proc as its interface Dave From greg at gulik.org Thu May 13 15:13:35 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:13:35 -0500 Subject: Upgraded to FC2T3 from RH8 and some problems. In-Reply-To: <20040513073148.GC26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40A31046.8070206@gulik.org> <20040513073148.GC26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A3909F.6030608@gulik.org> Alan Cox wrote: >>The /etc/security/selinux directory doesn't exist. > > Known Is there a fix/workaround? >>bmptoppm doesn't work: >>$ bmptoppm a.bmp > a.ppm >>bmptoppm: Windows BMP, 1842x1374x24 >>bmptoppm: Zero byte allocation > > Please bugzilla and if you can attach an example image showing the bug > that would be ideal Done. -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From andy at plausible.org Thu May 13 15:22:24 2004 From: andy at plausible.org (Andy Ross) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:22:24 -0700 Subject: Metacity Alt-Tab doesn't work? Message-ID: <40A392B0.2050707@plausible.org> Can anyone else confirm this metacity bug? I can't get alt-tab handling to work properly. It's a moderately severe issue, IMHO, since it essentially breaks keyboard navigation on the desktop. If this isn't a configuration issue on my end, it really does need to be looked at before the release. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122752 Andy From nbc at aikisoft.com Thu May 13 15:45:58 2004 From: nbc at aikisoft.com (Neil B. Cohen) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:45:58 -0400 Subject: Yum problems Message-ID: <1084463158.16083.7.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> Hi, I just started getting the following error when trying to run >>> yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base retrygrab() failed for: http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.92/i386/RPMS.updates/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.92/i386/RPMS.updates/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found on my Fedora 2(test3) system. I saw a reference on this list to the fact that this was a known problem, but I have not been able to figure out how to get yum working again. One person provided an alternate yum.conf file, which did work once but then it started giving me the same error (that is what is shown above). Do I just stop using yum for now or is there a workaround? Can someone point me in the right direction? Much obliged, nbc NAME: Neil B. Cohen (Aiki Software) PHONE: 703-444-4610 DOMAIN: nbc at aikisoft.com ************************************************************* * Murphy's Philosophy: Smile - tomorrow will be worse... * * * * O'Tooles Commentary: Murphy was an optimist! * ************************************************************* From whb at ceimaine.org Thu May 13 15:54:27 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:54:27 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark Message-ID: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> What ever happened to the question mark on the rhn-applet? I never seem to get that, even when it is unable to connect. I just get the nice blue check mark, which could give me a false sense of security. Is it just me? -- Will Backman Coastal Enterprises, Inc. From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 13 16:02:10 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:02:10 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 13 May 2004 11:54:27 -0400, Will Backman wrote: > > What ever happened to the question mark on the rhn-applet? > I never seem to get that, even when it is unable to connect. > I just get the nice blue check mark, which could give me a false sense > of security. > > Is it just me? cripple an fc1 sources file with an incorrect repo and you get the same thing. So its not just you. On top of that I think there is an underlying design problem, now that up2date can use multiple yum repos. How do you inform the user in situations where some but not all of the repos are broken in the sources file in such a way that users still know about the update from the correctly listed repos? The grey question mark, even if it did work, is sort of out of place unless all repos listed in sources are broken. From a design standpoint a new icon for the mixed case needs to be added maybe a grey exclamation mark to indicate there are updates on atleast one working repo listed AND atleast one repo listed seems to be unresponsive. -jef From drepper at redhat.com Thu May 13 16:12:26 2004 From: drepper at redhat.com (Ulrich Drepper) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:12:26 -0700 Subject: valgrind on FC2 (undefined symbol: __libc_accept) In-Reply-To: <200405120802.12081.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200405110729.55655.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <40A1B5E9.20008@redhat.com> <200405120802.12081.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <40A39E6A.50306@redhat.com> Neal Becker wrote: > Agreed, but valgrind in *very* important, so hopefully libc developers can > work together wih valgrind developers to prevent breakage. If you think it's important, then volunteer your time to check that valgrind doesn't do anything stupid [*]. For me it's one of a gazillion of programs which are "important". I'm not checking whether a change will break any of them if the change which is made is valid. Why should I pick a few programs and treat them special? [*] Which is, incidently, to a large extend very simple. If a program uses symbols with version GLIBC_PRIVATE it is using internal interfaces. And guess what? __libc_accept has this version. -- ? Ulrich Drepper ? Red Hat, Inc. ? 444 Castro St ? Mountain View, CA ? From privat at trond-danielsen.org Thu May 13 16:41:06 2004 From: privat at trond-danielsen.org (Trond Danielsen) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 18:41:06 +0200 Subject: Yum problems In-Reply-To: <1084463158.16083.7.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> References: <1084463158.16083.7.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> Message-ID: <40A3A522.2050000@trond-danielsen.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Download fedora-release.rpm manually from fedora.redhat.com or edit yum manually. The new adress in yum.conf should be: http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/*/$basearc/RPMS.updates/ * <- replace with 2, or update fedora-release and leave $releasever. Neil B. Cohen wrote: | Hi, | | I just started getting the following error when trying to run | | |>>>yum update | | Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) | Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base | retrygrab() failed for: | | http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.92/i386/RPMS.updates/headers/header.info | Executing failover method | failover: out of servers to try | Error getting file | http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1.92/i386/RPMS.updates/headers/header.info | [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | | on my Fedora 2(test3) system. I saw a reference on this list to the fact | that this was a known problem, but I have not been able to figure out | how to get yum working again. One person provided an alternate yum.conf | file, which did work once but then it started giving me the same error | (that is what is shown above). Do I just stop using yum for now or is | there a workaround? Can someone point me in the right direction? | | Much obliged, | | nbc | | NAME: Neil B. Cohen (Aiki Software) | PHONE: 703-444-4610 | DOMAIN: nbc at aikisoft.com | ************************************************************* | * Murphy's Philosophy: Smile - tomorrow will be worse... * | * * | * O'Tooles Commentary: Murphy was an optimist! * | ************************************************************* | | | - -- Trond Danielsen *********************************** _ * http://www.trond-danielsen.org * The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) * Mobile tlf: +47 99 62 52 35 * against HTML e-mail X * GPG ID: 0x02F29FD9 * http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ *********************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAo6UhrHrsMALyn9kRAsN5AKCnBCE3ryhviOBAbCtENTOmHqJYjQCfcsZV WRFhyc6W2pSX/6Dy1ZO9yzo= =FWi3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cheeb2002 at comcast.net Thu May 13 16:49:09 2004 From: cheeb2002 at comcast.net (James M. Jensen II) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:49:09 -0500 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 92 In-Reply-To: <20040513160044.1632273359@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040513160044.1632273359@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084466949.2227.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> > > My problem is that while my chipset is properly detected by the > > soundcard detection tool, I cannot get audio to work on my computer. > > This problem did not occur with FC1, and there is no problem with sound > > on Windows (I have the machine set up for a duel-boot). > The problem I have is the sound modules are not loaded at bootup, even though they are > correctly in /etc/modprobe.conf. I haven't figured out why yet - anyone else know? > > A workaround is to manually load the modules. Before logging into KDE (or presumably Gnome > also), switch to a VT and try this: > > # lsmod | grep intel > > If that doesn't find anything the modules are not loaded, so: > > # modprobe snd-intel8x0 > MC'97 1 converters and GPIO not ready (0xff00) It didn't give me the error message "MC'97 1 converters and GPIO not ready (0xff00)" -- Of course, that could be caused by something else. > > # lsmod | grep intel > snd_intel8x0 26280 1 > snd_ac97_codec 50436 1 snd_intel8x0 > snd_pcm 68872 1 snd_intel8x0 > snd_page_alloc 7940 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm > gameport 3328 1 snd_intel8x0 > snd_mpu401_uart 4864 1 snd_intel8x0 > snd 38372 9 > snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device > > Now switch back to X and login. Sound should work. I think the reason > system-config-soundcard works is because it must do a modprobe first - maybe someone else > can confirm this. > Nope... Still doesn't work. Thanks for your help, though. > If it is any help, my modprobe.conf is: > > # cat /etc/modprobe.conf > alias eth0 tg3 > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl > restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r > --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 > alias usb-controller ehci-hcd > alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd Here's my modprobe.conf: # Note: for use under 2.4, changes must also be made to modules.conf! alias eth0 tulip alias eth1 b44 alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias usb-controller1 ehci-hcd # had i810_audio alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; } remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --first-time --ignore-remove sound-slot-0 I changed "alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio" to "alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0" after seeing yours and made a comment as to what it used to be. Everything else is the same as its been since I upgraded. From gene.smith at sea.siemens.com Thu May 13 16:49:37 2004 From: gene.smith at sea.siemens.com (geneSmith) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:49:37 -0400 Subject: Conflict dvdrecord & cdrecord In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gene Smith wrote, On 5/8/2004 12:35 PM: > FYI, > yum -y update gave the subject conflict last night while upgrading 23 > packages (and nothing upgraded). Trying again excluding these packages. > > -gene > > Was a transient mirror sync error I guess. Tried again and worked ok w/o excludes. But took loooong time when ran last weekend (needed >100 pkgs not 23). -gene From cheeb2002 at comcast.net Thu May 13 16:51:10 2004 From: cheeb2002 at comcast.net (James M. Jensen II) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:51:10 -0500 Subject: Sound on Intel i845 In-Reply-To: <20040513160044.1632273359@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040513160044.1632273359@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084467070.2227.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Sorry I replied with a bad subject last time -- I'm not used to replying to digests...) > > My problem is that while my chipset is properly detected by the > > soundcard detection tool, I cannot get audio to work on my computer. > > This problem did not occur with FC1, and there is no problem with sound > > on Windows (I have the machine set up for a duel-boot). > The problem I have is the sound modules are not loaded at bootup, even though they are > correctly in /etc/modprobe.conf. I haven't figured out why yet - anyone else know? > > A workaround is to manually load the modules. Before logging into KDE (or presumably Gnome > also), switch to a VT and try this: > > # lsmod | grep intel > > If that doesn't find anything the modules are not loaded, so: > > # modprobe snd-intel8x0 > MC'97 1 converters and GPIO not ready (0xff00) It didn't give me the error message "MC'97 1 converters and GPIO not ready (0xff00)" -- Of course, that could be caused by something else. > > # lsmod | grep intel > snd_intel8x0 26280 1 > snd_ac97_codec 50436 1 snd_intel8x0 > snd_pcm 68872 1 snd_intel8x0 > snd_page_alloc 7940 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm > gameport 3328 1 snd_intel8x0 > snd_mpu401_uart 4864 1 snd_intel8x0 > snd 38372 9 > snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device > > Now switch back to X and login. Sound should work. I think the reason > system-config-soundcard works is because it must do a modprobe first - maybe someone else > can confirm this. > Nope... Still doesn't work. Thanks for your help, though. > If it is any help, my modprobe.conf is: > > # cat /etc/modprobe.conf > alias eth0 tg3 > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl > restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r > --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 > alias usb-controller ehci-hcd > alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd Here's my modprobe.conf: # Note: for use under 2.4, changes must also be made to modules.conf! alias eth0 tulip alias eth1 b44 alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias usb-controller1 ehci-hcd # had i810_audio alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; } remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --first-time --ignore-remove sound-slot-0 I changed "alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio" to "alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0" after seeing yours and made a comment as to what it used to be. Everything else is the same as its been since I upgraded. From veillard at redhat.com Thu May 13 16:53:11 2004 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:53:11 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040513165311.GD28474@redhat.com> On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 12:02:10PM -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2004 11:54:27 -0400, Will Backman wrote: > > > > What ever happened to the question mark on the rhn-applet? > > I never seem to get that, even when it is unable to connect. > > I just get the nice blue check mark, which could give me a false sense > > of security. > > > > Is it just me? > > cripple an fc1 sources file with an incorrect repo and you get the > same thing. So its not just you. > > On top of that I think there is an underlying design problem, now that > up2date can use multiple yum repos. How do you inform the user in > situations where some but not all of the repos are broken in the > sources file in such a way that users still know about the update from > the correctly listed repos? The grey question mark, even if it did This is exactly the problem. You can either raise an error is any of the source provided fails, or raise an error if all of them failed. Since people tend to add multiple source nowadays, I picked the second behaviour as the default, but it's probably something which need to be revisited. > work, is sort of out of place unless all repos listed in sources are > broken. From a design standpoint a new icon for the mixed case needs > to be added maybe a grey exclamation mark to indicate there are > updates on atleast one working repo listed AND atleast one repo listed > seems to be unresponsive. It starts to be a very confusing interface. We use to have Red/Green/Blue then we added Grey for network error, and now we would have a fifth level, which can only be understood if you analyze a more complex set of data. That's too much ... Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From marco at vampiresoft.com Thu May 13 16:58:30 2004 From: marco at vampiresoft.com (Marco Bambini) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 18:58:30 +0200 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install Message-ID: I have a laptop (Acer Aspire 1300 with a 20GB HD) with Windows XP in the first partition (15GB) and Fedora Core 2 test1 in the second one (with GRUB for the dual boot and it always works fine). I have decided to install Fedora Core 2 test3 (with the erase linux partition option) and the installation works fine. But when I try to boot on my WindowsXP partition (with Grub) nothing happens... I am now UNABLE to boot into my WindowsXP partiotion... I have read that others have the same problem after the Fedora install ... but I haven't found any solution that works for me. Anyone can help me? #fdisk -l Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20003880960 bytes 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38760 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 26550 13381168+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 26551 26753 102312 83 Linux /dev/hda3 26754 37785 5560128 83 Linux /dev/hda4 37786 38760 491400 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 37786 38760 491368+ 82 Linux swap #cat /etc/grub.conf # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,1) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=1 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img title WindowsXP rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 I really need your help... Thanks a lot. Marco Bambini Italy From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 13 17:12:20 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:12:20 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: <20040513165311.GD28474@redhat.com> References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> <20040513165311.GD28474@redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa791040513101240edbe53@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:53:11 -0400, Daniel Veillard > It starts to be a very confusing interface. We use to have > Red/Green/Blue > then we added Grey for network error, and now we would have a fifth > level, > which can only be understood if you analyze a more complex set of data. > That's too much ... I defer to infinitely better judgement about where the line of sanity is along the currently implemented interface. Do you have another option in mind to re-integrate the network problem situation into the user experience? Or does someone in the community need to come up with a clever way to show users that a network error is happening that is not attached to the icon color/shape? Are there some parameters to bound the solution space, or does rhn-applet punt the network error notification feature completely? -jef From kaboom at gatech.edu Thu May 13 17:16:45 2004 From: kaboom at gatech.edu (Chris Ricker) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 May 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On top of that I think there is an underlying design problem, now that > up2date can use multiple yum repos. How do you inform the user in > situations where some but not all of the repos are broken in the > sources file in such a way that users still know about the update from > the correctly listed repos? The grey question mark, even if it did > work, is sort of out of place unless all repos listed in sources are > broken. From a design standpoint a new icon for the mixed case needs > to be added maybe a grey exclamation mark to indicate there are > updates on atleast one working repo listed AND atleast one repo listed > seems to be unresponsive. why? If any of your yum repositories are broken, you're screwed -- yum won't update unless all listed repositories are available.... If / when that ever changes, it might be worth the complexity, but for now all the user cares about is that "it aint going to work for me" (gray question market). later, chris From whb at ceimaine.org Thu May 13 17:19:07 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:19:07 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: <604aa791040513101240edbe53@mail.gmail.com> References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> <20040513165311.GD28474@redhat.com> <604aa791040513101240edbe53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1084468747.2520.12.camel@d1ntpm41> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 13:12, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:53:11 -0400, Daniel Veillard > > It starts to be a very confusing interface. We use to have > > Red/Green/Blue > > then we added Grey for network error, and now we would have a fifth > > level, > > which can only be understood if you analyze a more complex set of data. > > That's too much ... > > I defer to infinitely better judgement about where the line of sanity > is along the currently implemented interface. Do you have another > option in mind to re-integrate the network problem situation into the > user experience? Or does someone in the community need to come up with > a clever way to show users that a network error is happening that is > not attached to the icon color/shape? > Are there some parameters to bound the solution space, or does > rhn-applet punt the network error notification feature completely? > > -jef > I would figure that the blue check mark means I am up2date. Any other funky or error situation should produce a question mark. From veillard at redhat.com Thu May 13 17:21:15 2004 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:21:15 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040513172114.GG28474@redhat.com> On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 01:16:45PM -0400, Chris Ricker wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > On top of that I think there is an underlying design problem, now that > > up2date can use multiple yum repos. How do you inform the user in > > situations where some but not all of the repos are broken in the > > sources file in such a way that users still know about the update from > > the correctly listed repos? The grey question mark, even if it did > > work, is sort of out of place unless all repos listed in sources are > > broken. From a design standpoint a new icon for the mixed case needs > > to be added maybe a grey exclamation mark to indicate there are > > updates on atleast one working repo listed AND atleast one repo listed > > seems to be unresponsive. > > why? If any of your yum repositories are broken, you're screwed -- yum won't > update unless all listed repositories are available.... If / when that ever up2date will work with a repository subset I think. Operating on a smaller universe whould work in most cases, since most extra channels are usually for specific add-on packages. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From kaboom at gatech.edu Thu May 13 17:28:08 2004 From: kaboom at gatech.edu (Chris Ricker) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: <20040513172114.GG28474@redhat.com> References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> <20040513172114.GG28474@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 May 2004, Daniel Veillard wrote: > > why? If any of your yum repositories are broken, you're screwed -- yum won't > > update unless all listed repositories are available.... If / when that ever > > up2date will work with a repository subset I think. Operating on a smaller > universe whould work in most cases, since most extra channels are usually > for specific add-on packages. Even though it'll work in most cases, yum command-line won't go if any repo is unavailable. up2date doesn't follow that design philosophy? later, chris From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 13 17:28:39 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:28:39 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa79104051310283538f020@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 13 May 2004 13:16:45 -0400 (EDT), Chris Ricker > why? If any of your yum repositories are broken, you're screwed -- yum > won't > update unless all listed repositories are available.... If / when that ever > changes, it might be worth the complexity, but for now all the user cares > about is that "it aint going to work for me" (gray question market). up2date lets you choose specific subsets of "channels" so when i deselect a broken repo, i can still update the rest of the repos. I know this, becuase i uhm...have a delibrately very screwed up set of repositories locally for testing. -jef"pathelogicallyscreweduprpms.net"spaleta From kaboom at gatech.edu Thu May 13 17:35:23 2004 From: kaboom at gatech.edu (Chris Ricker) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: <604aa79104051310283538f020@mail.gmail.com> References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> <604aa79104051310283538f020@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 May 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > up2date lets you choose specific subsets of "channels" > so when i deselect a broken repo, i can still update the rest of the repos. okay, good to know. Sounds like there's a reason to use up2date instead of yum on Fedora boxes after all ;-) later, chris From sdhmis at sheratondover.com Thu May 13 17:35:57 2004 From: sdhmis at sheratondover.com (Kenneth Benson) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:35:57 -0400 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install Message-ID: if /dev/hda1 is your XP then it looks like grub over-wrote the boot code for the XP partition, since that is where it's booting from and grub is in the boot partition. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marco Bambini [mailto:marco at vampiresoft.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:59 PM > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install > > > I have a laptop (Acer Aspire 1300 with a 20GB HD) with Windows XP in > the first partition (15GB) and Fedora Core 2 test1 in the second one > (with GRUB for the dual boot and it always works fine). I > have decided > to install Fedora Core 2 test3 (with the erase linux > partition option) > and the installation works fine. > > But when I try to boot on my WindowsXP partition (with Grub) nothing > happens... > I am now UNABLE to boot into my WindowsXP partiotion... > I have read that others have the same problem after the > Fedora install > ... but I haven't found any solution that works for me. > > Anyone can help me? > > > #fdisk -l > Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20003880960 bytes > 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38760 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 * 1 26550 13381168+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/hda2 26551 26753 102312 83 Linux > /dev/hda3 26754 37785 5560128 83 Linux > /dev/hda4 37786 38760 491400 f W95 > Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/hda5 37786 38760 491368+ 82 Linux swap > > #cat /etc/grub.conf > # grub.conf generated by anaconda > # > # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making > changes to this > file > # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that > # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. > # root (hd0,1) > # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 > # initrd /initrd-version.img > #boot=/dev/hda > default=1 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img > title WindowsXP > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > chainloader +1 > > I really need your help... > Thanks a lot. > > Marco Bambini > Italy > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at involution.com Thu May 13 17:31:18 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:31:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: xorg.conf for Dual-head Xinerama on FC2T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I got working dual head on fc2t3. At the end of this email is my xorg.conf file for the configuration. I have a Radeon 7200 in my AGP slot, and a Radeon 7000 PCI card at "PCI:2:14:0" on an Asus CUSL2 mother board. I determined the "PCI:2:14:0" value by doing the following: sudo X -configure That seemed to find both of my cards. I then pasted the "PCI:2:14:0" into the "Videocard1" section of the dual-head xorg.conf generated by the Gnome display manager, and it worked like a charm. Here is a screenshot of the results: http://uberh4x0r.org/~hoyhoy/fc2t3.gif Is this a Gnome problem that it can't recognize where the PCI video card is on the bus? Gnome tried to use "PCI:1:0:0", and by default gave me a single 640x480 display on Videocard0. That was quite a shock since I should have 3200x1200 of usable X display area. Regards, Tony # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display # # Author: Tony Perrie # # Description: xorg configuration file for a 3200x1200 # Xinerama desktop under Fedora Core 2 (Test 3) # using a Radeon 7200 in the AGP slot and a Radeon # 7000 in the fourth PCI slot on an Asus CUSL2 # Pentium III-based system. # # Date: 5/13/2004 # Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Multihead layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" RightOf "Screen1" Screen 1 "Screen1" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "Xinerama" "on" Option "Clone" "on" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option "XkbDisable" # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # or: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" # Or if you just want both to be control, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" # Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection Section "Monitor" ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Sony CPD-G500" ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: HorizSync 30.0 - 121.0 VertRefresh 48.0 - 160.0 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Samsung SyncMaster 213T" HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 85.0 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI" BoardName "ATI Radeon 7000" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard1" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI" BoardName "ATI Radeon 7200" BusID "PCI:2:14:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "Videocard1" Monitor "Monitor1" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection From czar at czarc.net Thu May 13 17:41:15 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:41:15 -0400 Subject: libstdc++.so.5 32 bit version on x86_64 fc2 In-Reply-To: <40A36D72.7090002@ipk-gatersleben.de> References: <40A36D72.7090002@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: <200405131341.15334.czar@czarc.net> On Thursday 13 May 2004 08:43, Ralf Sigmund wrote: > I have some binary only programs which require the 32 bit version of > libstdc++.so.5 > on this opteron fc2 machine libstdc++.so.5 is in /usr/lib/lib64 not > /usr/lib so theese are the 64 bit libs. they are not found by the > executable. I could fix this by symlinking, but wouldn't that mess up my > whole system making 32 bit binaries belive they used a 32 bit lib? > Are there additional 32 bit packages ? > tia ralf Mmm ... on my Opteron 140 running FC2 I get: root]#rpm -ql libstdc++ /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.5 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5.0.5 -- Gene From jsamort at shaw.ca Thu May 13 17:39:35 2004 From: jsamort at shaw.ca (J. Scott Amort) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:39:35 -0700 Subject: reboot is shutting down hard drives Message-ID: <1084469975.2707.6.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> Hi All, I noticed a strange thing after doing all the updates to my FC2T3 system (as of May 12), and running kernel 2.6.5-1.358. When I do a system reboot, it actually powers down the hard drives (the message comes up as Shutting down hda, Shutting down hdb, etc.) Then you can hear the drives spinning down as if the machine was powering off, but it reboots as expected. It then takes 10-20 seconds or so for the drives to power up again before the boot process continues. It is kind of annoying, and seems unnecessary. Does anyone else experience this behaviour? Best, Scott From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu May 13 17:59:23 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:59:23 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> <604aa79104051310283538f020@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1084471163.1881.112.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 13:35, Chris Ricker wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > up2date lets you choose specific subsets of "channels" > > so when i deselect a broken repo, i can still update the rest of the repos. > > okay, good to know. Sounds like there's a reason to use up2date instead of > yum on Fedora boxes after all ;-) Well, there's always "yum -c /etc/yum.conf_broken_repo_excuded upgrade" :-) Phil From Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com Thu May 13 18:00:21 2004 From: Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:00:21 -0700 Subject: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore Message-ID: <40A3B7B5.1070507@affymetrix.com> A couple of weeks back up2date stopped finding updates for my installation of test 3. I went so far as to remove and reinstall the rpm (up2date-4.3.18-2) but to no avail. I get different mirrors when I run it, such as today: Channel information yum channel fedora-core-2 from http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ or yum channel fedora-core-2 from http://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ but when I run it (the GUI) I get: There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: an HTTP error occurred: URL: http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os//headers/header.info Status Code: 404 Error Message: Not Found Can I fix this? -- Hugh Caley | Unix Systems Administrator | CIS AFFYMETRIX, INC. | 6550 Vallejo St. Ste 100 | Emeryville, CA 94608 Tel: 510-428-8537 | Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu May 13 18:06:49 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:06:49 -0400 Subject: Display Resolution In-Reply-To: <200405130002.UAA01293@warspite.xo.com> References: <200405130002.UAA01293@warspite.xo.com> Message-ID: <1084471609.1881.115.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 21:01, Brian Van Grunsven wrote: > Phil and fedora brothas - Once I executed it, the system-config-display > actually turns out to be the utility I've tried using before in KDE. It is > only offering resolutions of 800x600 and 640x480 ... but once I restart the > xserver I find that 640x480 is actually the one displayed even though I do > select 800x600. X configuration has been problematic in FC2 test releases: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120950 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122770 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122981 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122936 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119620 ... etc. ... Searching the fedora-list-archive also turns up a number of threads on this. The only thing I see reported that appears to help is: >> Phil Anderson wrote: >> >>> Try to uncomment the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in your >>> /etc/X11/xorg.conf. See if that helps. From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu May 13 18:26:19 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:26:19 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 rhn-applet question mark In-Reply-To: <20040513172114.GG28474@redhat.com> References: <1084463662.2520.5.camel@d1ntpm41> <604aa7910405130902be5a270@mail.gmail.com> <20040513172114.GG28474@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084472779.20924.1.camel@opus> > up2date will work with a repository subset I think. Operating on a smaller > universe whould work in most cases, since most extra channels are usually > for specific add-on packages. I can understand be able to deselect a repository manually, but errorlessly continuing when a repo has failed seems dangerous. If that goes on for long enough you may not get very important updates. -sv From bvangrunsven at nighthawkradiologyservices.net Thu May 13 19:33:19 2004 From: bvangrunsven at nighthawkradiologyservices.net (Brian Van Grunsven) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:33:19 -0600 Subject: Display Resolution In-Reply-To: <1084471609.1881.115.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <200405131833.OAA01264@warspite.xo.com> YES!!!! It worked!!!! Thanks Phil! As Phil Anderson wrote and Phil Schaffner referenced: >> Phil Anderson wrote: >> >>> Try to uncomment the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in your >>> /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I actually tried this yesterday - but I don't think I actually downloaded ALL of the updates. I'm not actually sure which update did help ... but if you're having resolution problems: 1. Make sure you're as updated as you're comfortable with 2. Uncomment the lines in your xorg.conf as Phil Anderson noted 3. Restart your xserver if currently running. HTH all you other guys with resolution problems! Thanks again Phil Schaffner for pointing this out. -Brian Van Grunsven -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Phil Schaffner Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:07 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Display Resolution On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 21:01, Brian Van Grunsven wrote: > Phil and fedora brothas - Once I executed it, the > system-config-display actually turns out to be the utility I've tried > using before in KDE. It is only offering resolutions of 800x600 and > 640x480 ... but once I restart the xserver I find that 640x480 is > actually the one displayed even though I do select 800x600. X configuration has been problematic in FC2 test releases: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120950 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122770 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122981 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122936 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119620 ... etc. ... Searching the fedora-list-archive also turns up a number of threads on this. The only thing I see reported that appears to help is: >> Phil Anderson wrote: >> >>> Try to uncomment the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in your >>> /etc/X11/xorg.conf. See if that helps. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu May 13 18:36:39 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 20:36:39 +0200 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A3C037.3030605@gmx.de> Kenneth Benson wrote: > if /dev/hda1 is your XP then it looks like grub over-wrote the boot > code for the XP partition, since that is where it's booting from and > grub is in the boot partition. > afair hd0,0 = hda1 hd0,1 = hda2 > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/hda1 * 1 26550 13381168+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > > /dev/hda2 26551 26753 102312 83 Linux > > /dev/hda3 26754 37785 5560128 83 Linux > > /dev/hda4 37786 38760 491400 f W95 > > Ext'd (LBA) > > /dev/hda5 37786 38760 491368+ 82 Linux swap > > > splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > > title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) > > root (hd0,1) > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img > > title WindowsXP > > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > > chainloader +1 > afair winxp has problems with pqmagic5 created partitions, i could not find the article http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?view=en-us&st=b&na=82&qu=partition+magic could it be that since fc2tx something has changed the partition in a simliar way? what had you tried? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg00138.html bios-setting from auto to lba ? boot win-xp-cd in rescue-mode ? c:\> fixmbr -- shrek-m From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 13 18:51:31 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:51:31 -0500 Subject: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore In-Reply-To: <40A3B7B5.1070507@affymetrix.com> References: <40A3B7B5.1070507@affymetrix.com> Message-ID: <40A3C3B3.10807@earthlink.net> Hugh Caley wrote: > A couple of weeks back up2date stopped finding updates for my > installation of test 3. I went so far as to remove and reinstall the > rpm (up2date-4.3.18-2) but to no avail. I get different mirrors when I > run it, such as today: > > Channel information > yum channel fedora-core-2 from > http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ > > or > > yum channel fedora-core-2 from > http://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ > > but when I run it (the GUI) I get: > > There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message was: > > an HTTP error occurred: > URL: > http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os//headers/header.info > > Status Code: 404 > Error Message: Not Found > > Can I fix this? > See http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01275.html Gerry Tool From reader at newsguy.com Thu May 13 19:06:37 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:06:37 -0500 Subject: perldoc display with data missing Message-ID: The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gmane.comp.lang.perl.beginners as well. My setup: OS = Linux (FedoraCore1 test2) I see an actual loss of data in reading perldoc output from an xterm if my term is sized a little small. I'll show a repeatable example (here anyway): xterm -geometry 65x20 & In that xterm call: perldoc POSIX In that page search for past (/past ) The hit shows up above the visable page and much of the line is just missing. Not just scambled but actually missing. You can see the missing data by calling: perldoc POSIX > file less file then search for /past again Or perldoc POSIX in an 85x30 xterm. My term is xterm and LANG is en_US.UTF-8 I don't think was a problem in the recent past as I've used undersized xterms for years. From Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com Thu May 13 19:12:28 2004 From: Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:12:28 -0700 Subject: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore Message-ID: <40A3C89C.6040608@affymetrix.com> I tried your suggested sources list, I get errors and up2date hangs: exploded! Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/gui.py", line 1357, in onChannelsPageNext self.pList.run() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/packageList.py", line 122, in run self.progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 315, in getAvailableAllArchPackageList package_list = availablePackageList( File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 153, in availablePackageList progressCallback = progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpcServer.py", line 112, in doCall ret = apply(method, args, kwargs) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 20, in listPackages return self.handlers[channel['type']].listPackages(channel, msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 226, in listPackages msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 266, in listPackages hdr = rd.getHeader([name,ver,rel,epoch,arch, "0",channel['label']]) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 31, in getHeader return self.handlers[channel['type']].getHeader(pkg, msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 210, in getHeader header = source.getHeader(pkg, progressCallback = progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 101, in getHeader rpmSourceUtils.saveHeader(hdr) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSourceUtils.py", line 24, in saveHeader fileName = "%s/%s.%s.hdr" % (cfg["storageDir"], TypeError: unsubscriptable object exploded! Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/gui.py", line 1423, in onSkippedPagePrepare self.__preparePackageList() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/gui.py", line 1309, in __preparePackageList self.pList.run() File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/packageList.py", line 122, in run self.progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 315, in getAvailableAllArchPackageList package_list = availablePackageList( File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 153, in availablePackageList progressCallback = progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpcServer.py", line 112, in doCall ret = apply(method, args, kwargs) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 20, in listPackages return self.handlers[channel['type']].listPackages(channel, msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 226, in listPackages msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 266, in listPackages hdr = rd.getHeader([name,ver,rel,epoch,arch, "0",channel['label']]) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 31, in getHeader return self.handlers[channel['type']].getHeader(pkg, msgCallback, progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 210, in getHeader header = source.getHeader(pkg, progressCallback = progressCallback) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 101, in getHeader rpmSourceUtils.saveHeader(hdr) File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSourceUtils.py", line 24, in saveHeader fileName = "%s/%s.%s.hdr" % (cfg["storageDir"], TypeError: unsubscriptable object Hugh > Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > * /From/: Gerry Tool > * /To/: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > * /Subject/: Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore > * /Date/: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:51:31 -0500 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hugh Caley wrote: > > A couple of weeks back up2date stopped finding updates for my > installation of test 3. I went so far as to remove and reinstall > the rpm (up2date-4.3.18-2) but to no avail. I get different > mirrors when I run it, such as today: > > Channel information > yum channel fedora-core-2 from > http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ > > or > > yum channel fedora-core-2 from > http://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ > > but when I run it (the GUI) I get: > > There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message > was: > > an HTTP error occurred: > URL: > http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os//headers/header.info > > >Status Code: 404 >Error Message: Not Found > > > Can I fix this? > > See > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01275.html > > Gerry Tool -- Hugh Caley | Unix Systems Administrator | CIS AFFYMETRIX, INC. | 6550 Vallejo St. Ste 100 | Emeryville, CA 94608 Tel: 510-428-8537 | Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu May 13 19:22:16 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:22:16 -0400 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <40A3C037.3030605@gmx.de> References: <40A3C037.3030605@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1084476136.1881.149.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 14:36, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > Kenneth Benson wrote: > > > if /dev/hda1 is your XP then it looks like grub over-wrote the boot > > code for the XP partition, since that is where it's booting from and > > grub is in the boot partition. > > > > afair > hd0,0 = hda1 > hd0,1 = hda2 > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > > /dev/hda1 * 1 26550 13381168+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > > > /dev/hda2 26551 26753 102312 83 Linux > > > /dev/hda3 26754 37785 5560128 83 Linux > > > /dev/hda4 37786 38760 491400 f W95 > > > Ext'd (LBA) > > > /dev/hda5 37786 38760 491368+ 82 Linux swap > > > > > > splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > > > title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) > > > root (hd0,1) > > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > > > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img > > > title WindowsXP > > > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > > > chainloader +1 > > > > > afair > winxp has problems with pqmagic5 created partitions, > i could not find the article > http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?view=en-us&st=b&na=82&qu=partition+magic > > could it be that since fc2tx something has changed the partition in a > simliar way? > > > what had you tried? > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg00138.html > > bios-setting from auto to lba ? > boot win-xp-cd in rescue-mode ? > c:\> fixmbr > > > > -- > shrek-m Looks a lot like http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116653 Please post if you get this working - have been following this issue as I'd like to put FC2 on my IBM A21p notebook that currently runs FC1 and XP, but have been leery due to numerous reports of FC2/XP dual boot problems. The above bug is still open, and some earlier threads suggested the above work-arounds, but there did not seem to be a reported successful resolution in some cases. Phil From sdhmis at sheratondover.com Thu May 13 19:23:38 2004 From: sdhmis at sheratondover.com (Kenneth Benson) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:23:38 -0400 Subject: reboot is shutting down hard drives Message-ID: I believe its doing that to cause the hard drives to flush the on-drive write buffers. > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Scott Amort [mailto:jsamort at shaw.ca] > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:40 PM > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: reboot is shutting down hard drives > > > Hi All, > > I noticed a strange thing after doing all the updates to my > FC2T3 system > (as of May 12), and running kernel 2.6.5-1.358. When I do a system > reboot, it actually powers down the hard drives (the message > comes up as > Shutting down hda, Shutting down hdb, etc.) Then you can hear the > drives spinning down as if the machine was powering off, but > it reboots > as expected. It then takes 10-20 seconds or so for the > drives to power > up again before the boot process continues. It is kind of > annoying, and > seems unnecessary. Does anyone else experience this behavior? > > Best, > Scott > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w.steenburg at myactv.net Thu May 13 19:44:24 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:44:24 -0400 Subject: libstdc++.so.5 32 bit version on x86_64 fc2 In-Reply-To: <40A36D72.7090002@ipk-gatersleben.de> References: <40A36D72.7090002@ipk-gatersleben.de> Message-ID: <1084477464.3347.2.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 08:43, Ralf Sigmund wrote: > I have some binary only programs which require the 32 bit version of > libstdc++.so.5 > on this opteron fc2 machine libstdc++.so.5 is in /usr/lib/lib64 not /usr/lib > so theese are the 64 bit libs. they are not found by the executable. > I could fix this by symlinking, but wouldn't that mess up my whole > system making 32 bit binaries belive they used a 32 bit lib? > Are there additional 32 bit packages ? > tia ralf > I'm not running a 64 bit proc., but on my system a: #yum provides libstdc++.so.5 gives me: Installed package: libstdc++.i386 0:3.3.3-7 matches with /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 Installed package: libstdc++.i386 0:3.3.3-7 matches with /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.5 Installed package: libstdc++.i386 0:3.3.3-7 matches with libstdc++.so.5 Installed package: libstdc++.i386 0:3.3.3-7 matches with libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) Installed package: libstdc++.i386 0:3.3.3-7 matches with libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2.1) Installed package: libstdc++.i386 0:3.3.3-7 matches with libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) Installed package: libstdc++.i386 0:3.3.3-7 matches with libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2.1) Installed package: libstdc++.i386 0:3.3.3-7 matches with libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2.2) Installed package: libstdc++.i386 0:3.3.3-7 matches with libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2.3) Try #yum install libstdc++.i386 From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 13 19:57:47 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:57:47 -0500 Subject: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore In-Reply-To: <40A3C89C.6040608@affymetrix.com> References: <40A3C89C.6040608@affymetrix.com> Message-ID: <40A3D33B.3010207@earthlink.net> Hugh Caley wrote: > I tried your suggested sources list, I get errors and up2date hangs: > > exploded! > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/gui.py", line 1357, in > onChannelsPageNext > self.pList.run() > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/packageList.py", line 122, in run > self.progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 315, in > getAvailableAllArchPackageList > package_list = availablePackageList( > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 153, in > availablePackageList > progressCallback = progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpcServer.py", line 112, in doCall > ret = apply(method, args, kwargs) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 20, in > listPackages > return self.handlers[channel['type']].listPackages(channel, > msgCallback, progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 226, in > listPackages > msgCallback, progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 266, > in listPackages > hdr = rd.getHeader([name,ver,rel,epoch,arch, "0",channel['label']]) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 31, in > getHeader > return self.handlers[channel['type']].getHeader(pkg, msgCallback, > progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 210, in getHeader > header = source.getHeader(pkg, progressCallback = progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 101, > in getHeader > rpmSourceUtils.saveHeader(hdr) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSourceUtils.py", line 24, in > saveHeader > fileName = "%s/%s.%s.hdr" % (cfg["storageDir"], > TypeError: unsubscriptable object > exploded! > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/gui.py", line 1423, in > onSkippedPagePrepare > self.__preparePackageList() > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/gui.py", line 1309, in > __preparePackageList > self.pList.run() > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/packageList.py", line 122, in run > self.progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 315, in > getAvailableAllArchPackageList > package_list = availablePackageList( > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnPackageInfo.py", line 153, in > availablePackageList > progressCallback = progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpcServer.py", line 112, in doCall > ret = apply(method, args, kwargs) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 20, in > listPackages > return self.handlers[channel['type']].listPackages(channel, > msgCallback, progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 226, in > listPackages > msgCallback, progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 266, > in listPackages > hdr = rd.getHeader([name,ver,rel,epoch,arch, "0",channel['label']]) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoDirector.py", line 31, in > getHeader > return self.handlers[channel['type']].getHeader(pkg, msgCallback, > progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSource.py", line 210, in getHeader > header = source.getHeader(pkg, progressCallback = progressCallback) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/repoBackends/yumRepo.py", line 101, > in getHeader > rpmSourceUtils.saveHeader(hdr) > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rpmSourceUtils.py", line 24, in > saveHeader > fileName = "%s/%s.%s.hdr" % (cfg["storageDir"], > TypeError: unsubscriptable object > > Hugh > > >> Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> * /From/: Gerry Tool >> * /To/: For testers of Fedora Core development releases >> >> * /Subject/: Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore >> * /Date/: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:51:31 -0500 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Hugh Caley wrote: >> >> A couple of weeks back up2date stopped finding updates for my >> installation of test 3. I went so far as to remove and reinstall >> the rpm (up2date-4.3.18-2) but to no avail. I get different >> mirrors when I run it, such as today: >> >> Channel information >> yum channel fedora-core-2 from >> http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ >> >> or >> >> yum channel fedora-core-2 from >> http://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ >> >> but when I run it (the GUI) I get: >> >> There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message >> was: >> >> an HTTP error occurred: >> URL: >> >> http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os//headers/header.info >> >> >> >> Status Code: 404 >> Error Message: Not Found >> >> >> Can I fix this? >> >> See >> >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01275.html >> >> Gerry Tool > Maybe if you post your compete sources file, someone can comment. Gerry From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Thu May 13 19:56:56 2004 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:56:56 -0700 Subject: Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd In-Reply-To: <1084416274.32489.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1084416274.32489.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084478215.1168.19.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 22:44 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > OK - I've built the Ximian/Evolution Connector and put up a Yum > repository here; it works for me on my FC2 rawhide with Evolution 1.4: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm/evo-1-4-connector Interestingly enough, I get the same error trying to compile this rpm for x86_64 as I did with evolution 1.5.7 [root at d-mpk14-95-238 SPECS]# rpmbuild -ba evolution-connector.spec gcc -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -o fbtest fbtest.o -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,--export-dynamic libexchange.a ../xntlm/libxntlm.a -L/usr/lib64/evolution/1.4 -lsoup-2.0 -pthread -lpcs -lcal-util -lcal-client -lical-evolution -lwombat -leutil -lgnome-2 /usr/lib/libpopt.so -lgal-2.0 -lgal-a11y-2.0 -lbonobo-2 -lgconf-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lglade-2.0 -lgnomeprint-2-2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lart_lgpl_2 -lxml2 -lpthread -lz -lpango-1.0 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lm -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -lldap -llber -lnsl /usr/lib/libpopt.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [fbtest] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ximian-connector-1.4.7/lib' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ximian-connector-1.4.7' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.68499 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.68499 (%build) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 13 20:09:05 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:09:05 -0500 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <1084476136.1881.149.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <40A3C037.3030605@gmx.de> <1084476136.1881.149.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <40A3D5E1.9050208@earthlink.net> Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 14:36, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > >>Kenneth Benson wrote: >> >> >>>if /dev/hda1 is your XP then it looks like grub over-wrote the boot >>>code for the XP partition, since that is where it's booting from and >>>grub is in the boot partition. >>> >> >>afair >>hd0,0 = hda1 >>hd0,1 = hda2 >> >> >>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>/dev/hda1 * 1 26550 13381168+ 7 HPFS/NTFS >>>>/dev/hda2 26551 26753 102312 83 Linux >>>>/dev/hda3 26754 37785 5560128 83 Linux >>>>/dev/hda4 37786 38760 491400 f W95 >>>>Ext'd (LBA) >>>>/dev/hda5 37786 38760 491368+ 82 Linux swap >>> >>>>splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz >>>>title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) >>>> root (hd0,1) >>>> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet >>>> initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img >>>>title WindowsXP >>>> rootnoverify (hd0,0) >>>> chainloader +1 >>> >> >>afair >>winxp has problems with pqmagic5 created partitions, >>i could not find the article >>http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?view=en-us&st=b&na=82&qu=partition+magic >> >>could it be that since fc2tx something has changed the partition in a >>simliar way? >> >> >>what had you tried? >>http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg00138.html >> >>bios-setting from auto to lba ? >>boot win-xp-cd in rescue-mode ? >>c:\> fixmbr >> >> >> >>-- >>shrek-m > > > Looks a lot like > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116653 > > Please post if you get this working - have been following this issue as > I'd like to put FC2 on my IBM A21p notebook that currently runs FC1 and > XP, but have been leery due to numerous reports of FC2/XP dual boot > problems. The above bug is still open, and some earlier threads > suggested the above work-arounds, but there did not seem to be a > reported successful resolution in some cases. > > Phil > I concur. This happened to me twice with different FC installs and also once with a Suse install, even though I chose to have grub install on the boot record of the drive containing the new install rather than on the mbr. Somehow those installs screw up the mbr anyway. Each time after much searching for a solution, I resorted to starting over with a Windows reinstall. Fortunately I had a separate partition on which I keep all my windows data files, so I didn't have to lose them. I finally put windows on the first partition of a second harddrive running on a second "raid" controller. To use it, I just select SCSI from a BIOS menu during boot to use windows and have grub installed on the hda mbr for everything else (several Linux distros.) Since then I've done a number of linux installs on the harddrive that is connected as master on the first standard IDE controller (hda) with no problems. Gerry From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu May 13 20:38:25 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:38:25 +0200 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <1084476136.1881.149.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <40A3C037.3030605@gmx.de> <1084476136.1881.149.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <40A3DCC1.5040905@gmx.de> Phil Schaffner wrote: >Looks a lot like >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116653 > fortunately i do not have a dual-boot with winxp my notebook (@work) has FC1 / w2k soon FC2 / w2k all other machines (@home) are living since 2001 with RHLx / FCx / freebsd -- shrek-m From whb at ceimaine.org Thu May 13 20:44:52 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 16:44:52 -0400 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <20040507110116.A13389@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1083941067.1880.20.camel@d1ntpm41> <1083941876.7165.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507110116.A13389@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1084481091.2520.88.camel@d1ntpm41> On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 13:01, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 10:54:36AM -0400, David Collantes wrote: > > > > Cyrus is better. Shared mailboxes, quota, robust. > > Cyrus has a different set of trade-offs. If you have hundreds or > thousands mail accounts, you need some things like quota, you have a > manpower to maintain all of that, and you can set up a "sealed > server" then surely cyrus is your choice. OTOH there are also > frequent situations when you need an imap server for rather small > number of users, with simple needs and setup, and cyrus there is > heavily "overqualified". It looks like that dovecot could fit here > if not those scary remarks that it may loose some mails. > > Dovecot also should be mentioned in notes as a possible, already > provided, alternative to imapd-uw without leaving this position > solely to cyrus. > > Michal > One issue for us is procmail. We use a nice program called the Procmail Email Sanitizer at http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html which does a great job for us. I also use some other cool procmail scripts. I guess I'd have to find replacements. From cfzeitler at yahoo.com Thu May 13 20:45:40 2004 From: cfzeitler at yahoo.com (charles f. zeitler) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: xcdroast & resolution conflict In-Reply-To: <20040509132052.A17381@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040513204540.16010.qmail@web80411.mail.yahoo.com> --- Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 10:34:36AM -0700, charles f. > zeitler wrote: > > xcdroast says it needs 800x600, > > therefor it won't open, > > but my xorg.conf & XF86Config > > both indicate i _have_ 800x600. > > Probably it tests that condition somewhere with > "greater" instead of > "not smaller", or equivalent, but a message you see > says otherwise. > Which of these two is really right I have no idea. > Check sources and > fix that bug. src rpm has: if gdk_screen_width() < 800 || gdk_screen_height() < 600 (then error) it would seem these functions are reporting a different resolution than my config files... cfzeitler at yahoo.com ===== : Do What Thou Wilt : : Shall Be : : The Whole of The Law : From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu May 13 21:16:03 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:16:03 -0400 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <1084482963.1881.191.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 21:31, Makoto Fujiwara wrote: > Hi, Phil, thanks a lot, > I got following file burned on CD-R/W but the symptom looks > exactly the same. > > MD5 (boot.iso) = 4ec1babe368e78b84309a04ef44e3e7e > -rw------- 1 makoto wheel 4153344 May 12 18:23 boot.iso Sounds like it's worth a Bugzilla report. Phil From zkessin at cs.brandeis.edu Thu May 13 21:23:49 2004 From: zkessin at cs.brandeis.edu (Zachary Kessin) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 00:23:49 +0300 (IDT) Subject: GnoTime In-Reply-To: <1084478215.1168.19.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1084416274.32489.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1084478215.1168.19.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: is GnoTime or a similar time tracking application in recent versions of Fedora? I can't seem to find an RPM and need a time tracker. Thanks -- Zachary Kessin zkessin at cs.brandeis.edu +972 51 809 717 (Cell) Custom Internet application development IM: ZachKessin From vslim at insightbb.com Thu May 13 21:40:58 2004 From: vslim at insightbb.com (slim) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 16:40:58 -0500 Subject: Normal behavior, Or Bug? In-Reply-To: <1084433954.4718.13.camel@aerie> References: <1084416624.23061.12.camel@shovelhead.tkl> <1084433954.4718.13.camel@aerie> Message-ID: <1084484458.2549.1.camel@shovelhead.tkl> Thanks for the replies!! I'm not sure what you mean by use right click menu/edit after highlighting text it cant be right clicked, Well it can, but nothing happens thanks On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 02:39, Kevin Francis wrote: > That's normal behaviour - the copy/paste model is still being resolved > over @ freedesktop.org. As for evolution, use the right click menu/edit > menu after selection and copy. Hope this helps. > > On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 10:50, slim wrote: > > Hi, > > I was just wondering if this behavior is normal.. > > When copying text from any application and pasting to any other > > location, The copied text will be lost if the application from which you > > copied is shut down.. > > > > two examples > > > > if coping text from one terminal to another, the text copied will be > > lost if first terminal is exited before the paste operation. > > > > lets say I copy some text from my mail reader, shut down the mail reader > > then go to paste in any application the text is lost. > > > > Also on a side note, with evolution, I can not copy text from message > > body... > > > > I am having these problems on the two machines I have running fedora on. > > > > 1 is an amd upgraded from valhalla> shrike> FC1> FC2T3 > > > > the other is a clean install of FC2T3 pent-II > > > > Thanks for any insights > -- > Kevin Francis > > From alan at redhat.com Thu May 13 21:42:07 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:42:07 -0400 Subject: Upgraded to FC2T3 from RH8 and some problems. In-Reply-To: <40A3909F.6030608@gulik.org> References: <40A31046.8070206@gulik.org> <20040513073148.GC26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A3909F.6030608@gulik.org> Message-ID: <20040513214207.GG1587@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 10:13:35AM -0500, Gregory Gulik wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > >>The /etc/security/selinux directory doesn't exist. > > > >Known > > Is there a fix/workaround? Just ignore the messages (and/or boot with selinux=0 anyway) From chris at menzel.com Thu May 13 21:50:15 2004 From: chris at menzel.com (Christian Menzel) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:50:15 +0200 Subject: Upgraded to FC2T3 from RH8 and some problems. In-Reply-To: <20040513214207.GG1587@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40A31046.8070206@gulik.org> <20040513073148.GC26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A3909F.6030608@gulik.org> <20040513214207.GG1587@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084485015.2463.1.camel@tux> On Do, 2004-05-13 at 23:42, Alan Cox wrote: > Just ignore the messages (and/or boot with selinux=0 anyway) I thought selinux=0 isn't available anymore? From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Thu May 13 22:11:55 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 18:11:55 -0400 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> Marco Bambini wrote: > I have a laptop (Acer Aspire 1300 with a 20GB HD) with Windows XP in the > first partition (15GB) and Fedora Core 2 test1 in the second one (with > GRUB for the dual boot and it always works fine). I have decided to > install Fedora Core 2 test3 (with the erase linux partition option) and > the installation works fine. > > But when I try to boot on my WindowsXP partition (with Grub) nothing > happens... > I am now UNABLE to boot into my WindowsXP partiotion... > I have read that others have the same problem after the Fedora install > ... but I haven't found any solution that works for me. > > Anyone can help me? > > > #fdisk -l > Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20003880960 bytes > 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38760 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 * 1 26550 13381168+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/hda2 26551 26753 102312 83 Linux > /dev/hda3 26754 37785 5560128 83 Linux > /dev/hda4 37786 38760 491400 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/hda5 37786 38760 491368+ 82 Linux swap > > #cat /etc/grub.conf > # grub.conf generated by anaconda > # > # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file > # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that > # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. > # root (hd0,1) > # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 > # initrd /initrd-version.img > #boot=/dev/hda > default=1 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img > title WindowsXP > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > chainloader +1 > > I really need your help... > Thanks a lot. > > Marco Bambini > Italy > > I had a problem during FC1 where XP would not boot. I see that the partition is active already from the fdisk output. I ended up putting the below into grub.conf and it worked. This was the entry from the configuration section in "info grub". I only see a difference between the two entries with root instead of rootnoverify and the makeactive entry. # For booting Windows NT or Windows95 title Windows NT / Windows 95 boot menu root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 YMMV, Jim -- You will attract cultured and artistic people to your home. From shugal at gmx.de Thu May 13 22:15:40 2004 From: shugal at gmx.de (Martin Stricker) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 00:15:40 +0200 Subject: When can we see the inclusion of Video Players for RedhatFedora? References: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> <20040513072641.GA26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A3F38C.8100C8F8@gmx.de> Alan Cox wrote: > > On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 08:40:41PM -0700, Joel Juliano wrote: > > What have caused Redhat not to include Video Players > > for it's distribution?, I havent' seen Redhat > > The problem in the USA is patents. That limits most of the video > codecs available today. In theory we could distribute apps based > on Theora and QV30 but neither has anything useful to ship. So what about moving to a place with more reasonable laws? This is becomming annoying - many other distros have video players on board. Best regards, Martin -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 9 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ From alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de Thu May 13 22:23:02 2004 From: alexander.dalloz at uni-bielefeld.de (Alexander Dalloz) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 00:23:02 +0200 Subject: cyrus-imap In-Reply-To: <1084481091.2520.88.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <20040506200117.F40F83974@sitemail.everyone.net> <1083895939.3704.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507002153.B29012@mail.harddata.com> <1083938744.1880.15.camel@d1ntpm41> <3939.12.29.16.103.1083940580.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1083941067.1880.20.camel@d1ntpm41> <1083941876.7165.TMDA@youshallnotpass.bus.ucf.edu> <20040507110116.A13389@mail.harddata.com> <1084481091.2520.88.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <1084486982.3965.49.camel@sirendipity.dogma.lan> Am Do, den 13.05.2004 schrieb Will Backman um 22:44: > One issue for us is procmail. We use a nice program called the Procmail > Email Sanitizer at > http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html which does a > great job for us. I also use some other cool procmail scripts. I guess > I'd have to find replacements. Not necessarily. See /usr/share/doc/cyrus-imapd-2.2.3/m4/cyrus-imapd-procmail+cyrus.mc /usr/share/doc/cyrus-imapd-2.2.3/m4/cyrus-procmailrc /usr/share/doc/cyrus-imapd-2.2.3/m4/cyrus-user-procmailrc.template for how to use procmail as LDA with Sendmail, which then calls the cyrus deliver tool. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl Sirendipity 00:15:39 up 22:00, 10 users, 0.12, 0.08, 0.09 [ ????? ?'????? - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 13 22:24:50 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:24:50 -0500 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> References: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <40A3F5B2.8010303@earthlink.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Marco Bambini wrote: > >> I have a laptop (Acer Aspire 1300 with a 20GB HD) with Windows XP in >> the first partition (15GB) and Fedora Core 2 test1 in the second one >> (with GRUB for the dual boot and it always works fine). I have decided >> to install Fedora Core 2 test3 (with the erase linux partition option) >> and the installation works fine. >> >> But when I try to boot on my WindowsXP partition (with Grub) nothing >> happens... >> I am now UNABLE to boot into my WindowsXP partiotion... >> I have read that others have the same problem after the Fedora install >> ... but I haven't found any solution that works for me. >> >> Anyone can help me? >> >> >> #fdisk -l >> Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20003880960 bytes >> 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38760 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes >> >> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >> /dev/hda1 * 1 26550 13381168+ 7 HPFS/NTFS >> /dev/hda2 26551 26753 102312 83 Linux >> /dev/hda3 26754 37785 5560128 83 Linux >> /dev/hda4 37786 38760 491400 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) >> /dev/hda5 37786 38760 491368+ 82 Linux swap >> >> #cat /etc/grub.conf >> # grub.conf generated by anaconda >> # >> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this >> file >> # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that >> # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. >> # root (hd0,1) >> # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 >> # initrd /initrd-version.img >> #boot=/dev/hda >> default=1 >> timeout=10 >> splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz >> title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) >> root (hd0,1) >> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet >> initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img >> title WindowsXP >> rootnoverify (hd0,0) >> chainloader +1 >> >> I really need your help... >> Thanks a lot. >> >> Marco Bambini >> Italy >> >> > > I had a problem during FC1 where XP would not boot. I see that the > partition is active already from the fdisk output. > > I ended up putting the below into grub.conf and it worked. This was the > entry from the configuration section in "info grub". > I only see a difference between the two entries with root instead of > rootnoverify and the makeactive entry. > > # For booting Windows NT or Windows95 > title Windows NT / Windows 95 boot menu > root (hd0,0) > makeactive > chainloader +1 > > YMMV, > > Jim > > > Yes, I had tried this to no avail during one of my failures of XP to boot. Gerry Tool From alan at redhat.com Thu May 13 22:28:46 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 18:28:46 -0400 Subject: When can we see the inclusion of Video Players for RedhatFedora? In-Reply-To: <40A3F38C.8100C8F8@gmx.de> References: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> <20040513072641.GA26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A3F38C.8100C8F8@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20040513222846.GA30480@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 12:15:40AM +0200, Martin Stricker wrote: > So what about moving to a place with more reasonable laws? This is > becomming annoying - many other distros have video players on board. I would expect that to change. SuSE is now Novell owned so the moment Novells legal team finish a patent audit there is bound to be fallout. If you want truely free video then help finish Theora. From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Thu May 13 22:30:16 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 18:30:16 -0400 Subject: 2.6 and Blanking Screen In-Reply-To: References: <40A2C34F.6010204@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <40A3F6F8.8030904@insight.rr.com> Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > On Wed, 12 May 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>Jason KRISCH wrote: >> >>>I was wondering if anyone else on this list was experiencing similar >>>results: >>> >>>With FC2T3 on my laptop (HP Pavilion ze5200) I had several issues with >>>the screen going blank (and the backlight turning off too) during boot. >>>It seemed to happen at random places at different times during boot. >>>The system >>>would be locked as far as I could tell and I had to power off. I have >>>since tried passing "vga=773" or "vga=normal" to the kernel at boot time >>>and both seem to get me past the screen going blank. (I also pass >>>"psmouse.proto=imps" so I can tap-click with my touchpad.) >>> >>>However, when I exit X - no matter what runlevel I am running in, the >>>screen goes immediately blank, backlight is powered off, and as far as I >>>can tell >>>the laptop is locked up. This applies to "Log Out", "Reboot", and >>>"Shutdown". I have found no related entries in my logs. I have also >>>tried passing "acpi=off" to the kernel. >>> >>>Anyone else have issues like this? I think it is a 2.6 issue more than >>>a FC2 issue. >> >>I have an hp ze4315us that has a VGA compatible controller: ATI >>Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1. >> >>I tried the 2.5 kernel on it. It seemed to work alright then. (Shutting >>down X) - That was back awhile ago. >> >>I'd suspect the problem to be with xorg or some other non-kernel issue. >> >>I might try to install the 2.6 kernel on this machine to see if the >>kernel is not the problem. I stayed at FC1 because of the touchpad >>issue. (Doesn't just work). >> >>About acpi, I cannot boot without acpi. My laptop freezes up at boot >>without it. >> >>Follow-up after installing the latestv Fedora Core 2 kernel on FC1. I'd >>like to try FC2, but was waiting for the synaptic touchpad issue to be >>cleared up. >> >>Jim >> > > > > I've got a Pavillion ze4430us, with the same ATI Mobility U1 card, that > FC2 auto-detects and uses the radeon driver with. I have no problems on > any of the latest kernels. I've seen the blanking problem on other > laptops, but have had no trouble with this one. It works just fine for me. > I'd really like the hardware aceleration to work.. but i guess i'll have > to wait on it. Looks like I lucked out on avoiding the blanking problem. I had an old laptop that used s3-virge earlier and it bloomed instead of blanked. Thanks for the additional information. I figured one vendor, similar hardware. > > As for the synaptics touch-pad, it was sad that it's not auto-detected, > however, given that the FC2 release date is very close at hand, unless > it's arleady been "fixed", i doubt support will be in the official FC2 > release. > > I can say however, that setting it up was very easy - just grab the > synaptics driver, unzip, compile, install, and change the driver lines in > your xorg.conf, just like the install file from the driver says. It works > great after that, no problems at all. > This is the first real 2.6 kernel that I used. I'll have to get the synaptic program and do the unzipping, ... installing, manual configuration, as descried. The 2.6 kernel does seem a bit quicker. The added work won't hold me back from FC2 final. Thanks, Jim PS - Sorry Jason, I figured HP laptop = hp laptop. Does the blanking problem happen at all resolutions on exit? > > -Quasar > From cf_linux at hotmail.com Thu May 13 23:35:34 2004 From: cf_linux at hotmail.com (Charlie Don) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:35:34 +0000 Subject: Problems with rndc and named, bind-9.2.3-13 Message-ID: Hello all, I am having the traditional rndc problem. I have googled it and spent some time messing with rndc.conf, rndc.key and named.conf. I have used the rndc-keygen etc etc. Here's the message I get : rndc -V reload create memory context create socket manager create task manager create task create logging context setting log tag creating log channel enabling log channel create parser get key for server get config key list decode base64 secret reload post event using server 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1#953) create socket connect rndc: connect failed: connection refused I have also tried to use yum to remove and install bind back again to see if I could have a damaged bind version. I wonder if anyone could give me directions on how to make this work. It is driving me crazy. I am using Fedora 1.92 to try to make it work. My bind version is bind-9.2.3-13 Can anyone help me with this problem? What shall I do? Thanks, C. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page ? FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ From fedoramail at gmx.net Fri May 14 00:01:22 2004 From: fedoramail at gmx.net (Clemens Haudum) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 02:01:22 +0200 Subject: 2.6 and Blanking Screen In-Reply-To: <40A3F6F8.8030904@insight.rr.com> References: <40A2C34F.6010204@insight.rr.com> <40A3F6F8.8030904@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084492841.2065.20.camel@linux> I have a similar problem on my dell inspiron 5150 (nvidia FX5200Go), the first problem is that i wasnt beeing able set a higher resolution than 640x480 on my 1400x1050 display with "nv" driver, with the "vesa" driver i am able to use 1400x1050 without any problems during am logged on, but when i want to switch the console or log off the screen turns black with no change to do anything. with the "normal" boot arguments the screen also turns black. with that boot arguments the system starts normal. kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img any help is appriciated. Am Fr, den 14.05.2004 schrieb Jim Cornette um 0:30: > Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > > > On Wed, 12 May 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > > > >>Jason KRISCH wrote: > >> > >>>I was wondering if anyone else on this list was experiencing similar > >>>results: > >>> > >>>With FC2T3 on my laptop (HP Pavilion ze5200) I had several issues with > >>>the screen going blank (and the backlight turning off too) during boot. > >>>It seemed to happen at random places at different times during boot. > >>>The system > >>>would be locked as far as I could tell and I had to power off. I have > >>>since tried passing "vga=773" or "vga=normal" to the kernel at boot time > >>>and both seem to get me past the screen going blank. (I also pass > >>>"psmouse.proto=imps" so I can tap-click with my touchpad.) > >>> > >>>However, when I exit X - no matter what runlevel I am running in, the > >>>screen goes immediately blank, backlight is powered off, and as far as I > >>>can tell > >>>the laptop is locked up. This applies to "Log Out", "Reboot", and > >>>"Shutdown". I have found no related entries in my logs. I have also > >>>tried passing "acpi=off" to the kernel. > >>> > >>>Anyone else have issues like this? I think it is a 2.6 issue more than > >>>a FC2 issue. > >> > >>I have an hp ze4315us that has a VGA compatible controller: ATI > >>Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1. > >> > >>I tried the 2.5 kernel on it. It seemed to work alright then. (Shutting > >>down X) - That was back awhile ago. > >> > >>I'd suspect the problem to be with xorg or some other non-kernel issue. > >> > >>I might try to install the 2.6 kernel on this machine to see if the > >>kernel is not the problem. I stayed at FC1 because of the touchpad > >>issue. (Doesn't just work). > >> > >>About acpi, I cannot boot without acpi. My laptop freezes up at boot > >>without it. > >> > >>Follow-up after installing the latestv Fedora Core 2 kernel on FC1. I'd > >>like to try FC2, but was waiting for the synaptic touchpad issue to be > >>cleared up. > >> > >>Jim > >> > > > > > > > > I've got a Pavillion ze4430us, with the same ATI Mobility U1 card, that > > FC2 auto-detects and uses the radeon driver with. I have no problems on > > any of the latest kernels. I've seen the blanking problem on other > > laptops, but have had no trouble with this one. It works just fine for me. > > I'd really like the hardware aceleration to work.. but i guess i'll have > > to wait on it. > > Looks like I lucked out on avoiding the blanking problem. I had an old > laptop that used s3-virge earlier and it bloomed instead of blanked. > > Thanks for the additional information. I figured one vendor, similar > hardware. > > > > > As for the synaptics touch-pad, it was sad that it's not auto-detected, > > however, given that the FC2 release date is very close at hand, unless > > it's arleady been "fixed", i doubt support will be in the official FC2 > > release. > > > > I can say however, that setting it up was very easy - just grab the > > synaptics driver, unzip, compile, install, and change the driver lines in > > your xorg.conf, just like the install file from the driver says. It works > > great after that, no problems at all. > > > > This is the first real 2.6 kernel that I used. I'll have to get the > synaptic program and do the unzipping, ... installing, manual > configuration, as descried. The 2.6 kernel does seem a bit quicker. The > added work won't hold me back from FC2 final. > > Thanks, > > Jim > > PS - Sorry Jason, I figured HP laptop = hp laptop. Does the blanking > problem happen at all resolutions on exit? > > > > > -Quasar > > > From robertlaferla at comcast.net Fri May 14 00:10:54 2004 From: robertlaferla at comcast.net (Robert La Ferla) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 20:10:54 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> Although, I am a developer, as a user, I would really like to see Mozilla come better configured with the Java, and Flash plug-ins pre-installed. RealPlayer would be a plus. Or at least somehow make installation/configuration easier for users. I'm not sure how much control Fedora developers have over this but it would make Fedora much more user friendly. I also think that putting at least one DVD player (like Xine) in the distro would be a good thing. A user should be able to install Fedora, and pop-in a DVD to watch it. If you want to select a different DVD player that can be an option. Sound configuration is a currently nightmare. I'm not sure exactly why but I think it maybe an OSS vs. ALSA issue. For example, I have a Shuttle with a SPDIF digital output. I should be able to watch a DVD with Dolby Digital or DTS audio without having to spend a week tweaking configuration files. From mattdm at mattdm.org Fri May 14 01:21:53 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 21:21:53 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040514012153.GA3310@jadzia.bu.edu> On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 08:10:54PM -0400, Robert La Ferla wrote: > Although, I am a developer, as a user, I would really like to see > Mozilla come better configured with the Java, and Flash plug-ins > pre-installed. RealPlayer would be a plus. Or at least somehow make > installation/configuration easier for users. I'm not sure how much > control Fedora developers have over this but it would make Fedora much > more user friendly. I also think that putting at least one DVD player > (like Xine) in the distro would be a good thing. A user should be able Unfortunately, there's no Free / Open Source software that can accomplish those things. Java, Flash, and RealPlayer are all very tightly licensed and can't be just redistributed. (And, even if they had slightly more lax licenses, Fedora is still only based on completely open-source software.) And DVD playing is right out, because there's all sorts of legal encumbrance hanging over the free players, and commercial software would have the same issue as the other things you mention. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Fri May 14 01:57:13 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 21:57:13 -0400 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <40A3F5B2.8010303@earthlink.net> References: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> <40A3F5B2.8010303@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40A42779.8010102@insight.rr.com> Gerry Tool wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Marco Bambini wrote: >> >>> I have a laptop (Acer Aspire 1300 with a 20GB HD) with Windows XP in >>> the first partition (15GB) and Fedora Core 2 test1 in the second one >>> (with GRUB for the dual boot and it always works fine). I have >>> decided to install Fedora Core 2 test3 (with the erase linux >>> partition option) and the installation works fine. >>> >>> But when I try to boot on my WindowsXP partition (with Grub) nothing >>> happens... >>> I am now UNABLE to boot into my WindowsXP partiotion... >>> I have read that others have the same problem after the Fedora >>> install ... but I haven't found any solution that works for me. >>> >>> Anyone can help me? >>> >>> >>> #fdisk -l >>> Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20003880960 bytes >>> 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38760 cylinders >>> Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes >>> >>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>> /dev/hda1 * 1 26550 13381168+ 7 HPFS/NTFS >>> /dev/hda2 26551 26753 102312 83 Linux >>> /dev/hda3 26754 37785 5560128 83 Linux >>> /dev/hda4 37786 38760 491400 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) >>> /dev/hda5 37786 38760 491368+ 82 Linux swap >>> >>> #cat /etc/grub.conf >>> # grub.conf generated by anaconda >>> # >>> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to >>> this file >>> # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that >>> # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. >>> # root (hd0,1) >>> # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 >>> # initrd /initrd-version.img >>> #boot=/dev/hda >>> default=1 >>> timeout=10 >>> splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz >>> title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) >>> root (hd0,1) >>> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet >>> initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img >>> title WindowsXP >>> rootnoverify (hd0,0) >>> chainloader +1 >>> >>> I really need your help... >>> Thanks a lot. >>> >>> Marco Bambini >>> Italy >>> >>> >> >> I had a problem during FC1 where XP would not boot. I see that the >> partition is active already from the fdisk output. >> >> I ended up putting the below into grub.conf and it worked. This was >> the entry from the configuration section in "info grub". >> I only see a difference between the two entries with root instead of >> rootnoverify and the makeactive entry. >> >> # For booting Windows NT or Windows95 >> title Windows NT / Windows 95 boot menu >> root (hd0,0) >> makeactive >> chainloader +1 >> >> YMMV, >> >> Jim >> >> >> > Yes, I had tried this to no avail during one of my failures of XP to boot. > > Gerry Tool > > I haven't read the info for FC2 versions of grub. Is there any changes in the documentation regarding changes to the way non-linux OSes are configured. I pulled the info from FC1's version of grub. When the above entry worked for me, FC was on a slave disk and XP was on the primary disk. Before changing the entry from the default entry to the one from grub's documentation, XP only booted to a black screen and did not load. Do you think that the problem might be that fdisk (linux) set up the information in the partition table differently than XP is used to? I wonder what booting into level 1 and changing the hda4 entry to a primary partition, instead of an extended partition, changing hda4 to a linux swap partition and eliminating hda5 would have any positive effect? (Thinking that XP might have different meanings for info in boot.ini with the extended partition. (container for linux swap). Sorry no help for this particular booting XP problem. It looks like putting in the installation CD for XP and going to the console repair mode and running fixboot and fixmbr might be the only solution. It would show what XP (nt) thinks the partition name should be. Jim From Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com Fri May 14 02:11:09 2004 From: Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 19:11:09 -0700 Subject: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore Message-ID: <40A42ABD.8040007@affymetrix.com> Here are my sources: ##yum fedora-core-2 http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-2 ##uum-mirror fedora-core-2 -released-fc2 http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-2 ##yum-mirror fedora-core-2 http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 ##yum-mirror updates-released-fc2 http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 #yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever yum updates-testing ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development #yum updates-testing ftp://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development #yum updates-testing ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development #yum-mirror updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-testing Hugh > Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > * /From/: Gerry Tool > * /To/: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > * /Subject/: Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore > * /Date/: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:57:47 -0500 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hugh Caley wrote: > > I tried your suggested sources list, I get errors and up2date hangs: > > exploded! > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/gui.py", line 1357, in > onChannelsPageNext > self.pList.run() > > > Hugh > > > Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > * /From/: Gerry Tool > * /To/: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > * /Subject/: Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore > * /Date/: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:51:31 -0500 > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Hugh Caley wrote: > > > A couple of weeks back up2date stopped finding updates for my > installation of test 3. I went so far as to remove and reinstall > the rpm (up2date-4.3.18-2) but to no avail. I get different > mirrors when I run it, such as today: > > > Channel information > yum channel fedora-core-2 from > http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ > > > or > > yum channel fedora-core-2 from > http://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/ > > > but when I run it (the GUI) I get: > > There was a fatal error communicating with the server. The message > was: > > > an HTTP error occurred: > URL: > http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os//headers/header.info > > > > >Status Code: 404 >Error Message: Not Found > > > > Can I fix this? > > See > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01275.html > > Gerry Tool > > > > Maybe if you post your compete sources file, someone can comment. > > Gerry -- Hugh Caley | Unix Systems Administrator | CIS AFFYMETRIX, INC. | 6550 Vallejo St. Ste 100 | Emeryville, CA 94608 Tel: 510-428-8537 | Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Fri May 14 02:54:11 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:54:11 +0800 Subject: Tettnang??? In-Reply-To: <20040513123434.GA6367@redhat.com> References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040513123434.GA6367@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084503251.23497.3.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 20:34, Gary Benson wrote: > We so should have called FC2 "nosebleed" :) We should have named it "Zod!", but that's another story. :) -- Chris Kloiber From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Fri May 14 02:53:39 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:53:39 -0400 Subject: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore In-Reply-To: <40A42ABD.8040007@affymetrix.com> References: <40A42ABD.8040007@affymetrix.com> Message-ID: <1084503219.5962.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 19:11 -0700, Hugh Caley wrote: > Here are my sources: > > ##yum fedora-core-2 http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-2 > ##uum-mirror fedora-core-2 -released-fc2 > http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-2 > ##yum-mirror fedora-core-2 > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 > ##yum-mirror updates-released-fc2 > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 > #yum updates-testing > http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever > yum updates-testing > ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development > #yum updates-testing > ftp://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development > #yum updates-testing > ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development > #yum-mirror updates-testing > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-testing > > Hugh Well, don't usually use up2date, but can replicate your error; however, changing the single active line to: yum updates-testing ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development/$ARCH to match my (working) /etc/yum.conf works-for-me. Lots of repos are changing to get ready for FC2 so expect to keep having to debug config files. Phil From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Fri May 14 03:05:48 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:05:48 -0400 Subject: Upgraded to FC2T3 from RH8 and some problems. In-Reply-To: <1084485015.2463.1.camel@tux> References: <40A31046.8070206@gulik.org> <20040513073148.GC26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A3909F.6030608@gulik.org> <20040513214207.GG1587@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084485015.2463.1.camel@tux> Message-ID: <1084503946.5962.6.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 23:50 +0200, Christian Menzel wrote: > On Do, 2004-05-13 at 23:42, Alan Cox wrote: > > Just ignore the messages (and/or boot with selinux=0 anyway) > > I thought selinux=0 isn't available anymore? How about: echo "SELINUX=disabled" > /etc/sysconfig/selinux Phil From sopwith at redhat.com Fri May 14 03:23:20 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 May 2004, Robert La Ferla wrote: > Although, I am a developer, as a user, I would really like to see > Mozilla come better configured with the Java, and Flash plug-ins > pre-installed. Hi Robert (and all testers), two points: Looking at the schedule shows that it is way too late to incorporate feedback into fc2 - start thinking what you want for fc3 :) You'll pretty much have to go with a commercial offering (or a non-Free one) to get the things you want preinstalled. The things you wanted are not currently compatible with the goals of the fedora project. Cheers, -- Elliot From aoliva at redhat.com Fri May 14 04:41:57 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 14 May 2004 01:41:57 -0300 Subject: reboot is shutting down hard drives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 13, 2004, Kenneth Benson wrote: > I believe its doing that to cause the hard drives to flush the on-drive > write buffers. Yup. And it's in bugzilla because some boxes won't reboot after disks were powered off. Broken BIOS :-( >> From: J. Scott Amort [mailto:jsamort at shaw.ca] >> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:40 PM >> (as of May 12), and running kernel 2.6.5-1.358. When I do a system >> reboot, it actually powers down the hard drives (the message -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Fri May 14 04:46:14 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 14 May 2004 01:46:14 -0300 Subject: Tettnang??? In-Reply-To: <1084503251.23497.3.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040513123434.GA6367@redhat.com> <1084503251.23497.3.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: On May 13, 2004, Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 20:34, Gary Benson wrote: >> We so should have called FC2 "nosebleed" :) > We should have named it "Zod!", but that's another story. :) Isn't Tettnang German for Zod? :-) :-) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From ml at mutox.org Fri May 14 05:44:24 2004 From: ml at mutox.org (Dan) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:44:24 +1000 Subject: reboot is shutting down hard drives In-Reply-To: <1084469975.2707.6.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> References: <1084469975.2707.6.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> Message-ID: <1084513464.26278.17.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> I noticed this aswell with 2.6.5-1.358. I did a clean install from the development tree on tuesday or wednesday, and at each reboot i noticed the sound of the hard drive powering down. Later on during boot the bios seems to power the drive back on. Afaik this wasnt happenning earlier in FC2T3, but i havn't tested every kernel. The one machine ive been testing FC2test on has a sis651 chipset. lspci says this about my ide controller: 00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] Dan. On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 03:39, J. Scott Amort wrote: > Hi All, > > I noticed a strange thing after doing all the updates to my FC2T3 system > (as of May 12), and running kernel 2.6.5-1.358. When I do a system > reboot, it actually powers down the hard drives (the message comes up as > Shutting down hda, Shutting down hdb, etc.) Then you can hear the > drives spinning down as if the machine was powering off, but it reboots > as expected. It then takes 10-20 seconds or so for the drives to power > up again before the boot process continues. It is kind of annoying, and > seems unnecessary. Does anyone else experience this behaviour? > > Best, > Scott > From gasi3 at web.de Fri May 14 06:11:51 2004 From: gasi3 at web.de (Herbert Gasiorowski) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:11:51 +0200 Subject: lm_sensors modules not found Message-ID: <40A46327.3090200@web.de> on an Intel P4 board sensors-detect suggests some modules, the last two of them are not found: ok MODULE_0=i2c-i801 ok MODULE_1=i2c-isa ? MODULE_2=adm1025 ? MODULE_3=smsc47m1 (and the file /etc/rc.d/init.d/lm_sensors is not created) Is there something wrong with FC2T3: kernel-2.6.5-1.327 lm_sensors-2.8.6-1. This seems to be a good combination from http://www2.lm-sensors.nu/~lm78/kernel26.html Or do I have to wait some time? -- mfg Herbert Gasiorowski http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gasi/ From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 14 06:14:18 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 07:14:18 +0100 Subject: Trying to find a fault with downloading email with evolution Message-ID: Hi, For some reason, I am virtually unable to download my email from work remotely. It is allowed and does work, but since Sasser hit, it has been very on-off. What happens is this. Evolution begins it's download of emails. It checks my home accounts and then goes to my work account, finds there are (say) 5 emails waiting on the server and attempts to download the first. At this point, it fails. My user details are correct (it's worked before and I've changed nothing), so I'm trying to provide the information services bods with as much info as I can. I can't find anything in /var/log or in .evolution which reports errors. Does anyone know where I can find the evolution error log? I'm using v1.5.7 under FC2 TTFN Paul -- "There are four stages to any war First they ignore you, then they laugh at you Then they fight you, then YOU win." Ghandi From jack.fulghum at wanadoo.fr Fri May 14 06:25:17 2004 From: jack.fulghum at wanadoo.fr (jack fulghum) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:25:17 +0200 Subject: Intel 82801 sound problem Message-ID: <40A4664D.3080204@wanadoo.fr> I have exactly the same "rumble" here on a Shuttle G-75. After various searches I am back to FC1 until release next week. Unless I have missed something (quite possible) it does not appear to be a known bug. No problem at all with FC1 but appeared with T2 and still there on T3 (did not try T1). Jack From maillist at blitzen.net Fri May 14 06:42:01 2004 From: maillist at blitzen.net (Steve Lee) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Test Message-ID: Test From fedora at warmcat.com Fri May 14 06:42:06 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 07:42:06 +0100 Subject: Trying to find a fault with downloading email with evolution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405140742.10096.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 May 2004 07:14, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find the evolution error log? I'm using > v1.5.7 under FC2 Nope, but I have a couple of other ideas: - run tcpdump -S0 -X -vv port 110 and try to collect mail - see if a different POP3 app will work (thus isolating the problem to Evo) - if you're running plain auth telnet to your server port 110 and try to login by hand - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFApGpBjKeDCxMJCTIRAnnnAJ9/o9EenTk5aWa+y043mqhvznxpWgCfZ8GU 97RljGh81Rov+ASeYVL0Dqc= =JEb0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fedora at warmcat.com Fri May 14 06:48:42 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 07:48:42 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200405140748.42261.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 May 2004 04:23, Elliot Lee wrote: Hi Elliot - > You'll pretty much have to go with a commercial offering (or a non-Free > one) to get the things you want preinstalled. The things you wanted are > not currently compatible with the goals of the fedora project. Maybe preinstalled isn't the problem... I know that some of the external repos have packaged more of these things, maybe what would essentially scratch Robert's itch is a single script that can be run after install which autofetches the various license/patent problem packages (direct from Sun/Realplayer, for example, thus not treading on toes) and installs them. (And does stuff like disable Noatun and Kaboodle... and artsd... sets up ~/.mplayer/config... sets up Konq MIME stuff for MP3/MPG/AVI etc...) Did anyone make such a thing yet? - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFApGvKjKeDCxMJCTIRApzVAJ9OcFhytw+FMi0VkT5RvqZI7VhEYgCgj7X8 uwy9KuENVdurjao8kmayhs8= =kBHm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From h.mayer at inode.at Fri May 14 07:06:01 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:06:01 +0200 Subject: X crashes when googling for 'openmosix "currently disabled"' In-Reply-To: <40A2FF66.1000407@inode.at> References: <40A27B42.7030307@inode.at> <1084392105.9945.196351487@webmail.messagingengine.com> <40A2875D.5040106@inode.at> <40A294E0.5010504@redhat.com> <40A2FF66.1000407@inode.at> Message-ID: <40A46FD9.8030702@inode.at> > Warren Togami wrote: > >> Can you please bzip2 the saved HTML and send it to the list, or post >> at URL? Here it is: http://www.cosmicrays.org/g.gz Meanwhile I downloaded the source of Moz1.7RC1 from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.7rc1/src/ and built it myself and it doesn't crash. So I assume this problem is only moz-based and only in the official build from mozilla.org for 1.7RC1 Thanks, Hannes. From joel_juliano at yahoo.com Fri May 14 07:18:20 2004 From: joel_juliano at yahoo.com (Joel Juliano) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 00:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Enable SELinux in Fedora Core 2 Final Release!! Message-ID: <20040514071820.71050.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> This would rename "Tettnag" to "nosebleed". :-) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Fri May 14 08:52:28 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:52:28 +0200 Subject: FC2T3 X Configuration - No devices detected Message-ID: <40A488CC.8020400@filmakademie.de> Hi, I recently installed FC2T3 on an older PII 366 for a test. The Installation from an NFS Server hosting the isos worke fine. But after the reboot, there is no loginscreen, the disply stays black. In the Xorg.0.log there is on EE : (EE) No devices detected. This is confusing me, because the messages of the boot process are shown and I could use the gfx installation mode which is asking for the display configuration and settings. I can remember that there has been a problem like that on my toshiba labtop and I had to edit the xorg.conf by hand (Hsync... something) The graphiccard is an elsa winner1000/T3D AGP, the monitor an iiyama visionmaster 403 17". Thanks for any hints and tips. Regards G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Fri May 14 09:11:18 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:11:18 +0100 Subject: FC2T3 X Configuration - No devices detected In-Reply-To: <40A488CC.8020400@filmakademie.de> References: <40A488CC.8020400@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <1084525878.9064.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 09:52, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > Hi, > > I recently installed FC2T3 on an older PII 366 for a test. The > Installation from an NFS Server hosting the isos worke fine. > > But after the reboot, there is no loginscreen, the disply stays black. > In the Xorg.0.log there is on EE : (EE) No devices detected. > > This is confusing me, because the messages of the boot process are shown > and I could use the gfx installation mode which is asking for the > display configuration and settings. > > I can remember that there has been a problem like that on my toshiba > labtop and I had to edit the xorg.conf by hand (Hsync... something) If the Monitor does not support DDC then the HSYNC ranges are #'ed out, an update version of the libraries that have fixed the problem will be available in FC2. Here's the bug relating to it https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120950 However this just forces the resolution to 640*480, so I'm not sure this is the problem your having. > The graphiccard is an elsa winner1000/T3D AGP, the monitor an iiyama > visionmaster 403 17". The only thing I can suggest, is trying to update your system (yum -y update) at the command line, make sure you have all latest stuff, and then try system-config-display --reconfigure to try and set it up again. That may help, but not sure. Doug From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Fri May 14 09:21:30 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:21:30 +0200 Subject: FC2T3 X Configuration - No devices detected In-Reply-To: <1084525878.9064.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <40A488CC.8020400@filmakademie.de> <1084525878.9064.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A48F9A.5050602@filmakademie.de> <...> > Here's the bug relating to it > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12095Software error: data/versioncache did not return a true value at globals.pl line 692. For help, please send mail to the webmaster (bugzilla at redhat.com), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Fri May 14 09:42:46 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:42:46 +0100 Subject: FC2T3 X Configuration - No devices detected In-Reply-To: <40A48F9A.5050602@filmakademie.de> References: <40A488CC.8020400@filmakademie.de> <1084525878.9064.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A48F9A.5050602@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <1084527765.9064.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 10:21, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > <...> > > Here's the bug relating to it > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12095Software error: > > > data/versioncache did not return a true value at globals.pl line 692. > > For help, please send mail to the webmaster (bugzilla at redhat.com), > giving this error message and the time and date of the error. > yeah, I got that when I sent the link, however that's out of the bug report that I'm following, I'm guessing that they have some problems with this set up (possibly). I think I gave you most of the information that you needed (re-uncommenting) the actual bug report does not give much more info. Doug From fedoramail at gmx.net Fri May 14 09:57:46 2004 From: fedoramail at gmx.net (fedoramail fedoramail) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:57:46 +0200 (MEST) Subject: 2.6 and Blanking Screen References: <1084492841.2065.20.camel@linux> Message-ID: <7909.1084528666@www3.gmx.net> Today i have updated (with up2date) my system and after reboot all works perfect. many thanks to the fedora-core team > I have a similar problem on my dell inspiron 5150 (nvidia FX5200Go), > the first problem is that i wasnt beeing able set a higher resolution > than 640x480 on my 1400x1050 display with "nv" driver, with the "vesa" > driver i am able to use 1400x1050 without any problems during am logged > on, but when i want to switch the console or log off the screen turns > black with no change to do anything. with the "normal" boot arguments > the screen also turns black. with that boot arguments the system starts > normal. > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ > initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img > any help is appriciated. > > Am Fr, den 14.05.2004 schrieb Jim Cornette um 0:30: > > Quasar Jarosz wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 12 May 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Jason KRISCH wrote: > > >> > > >>>I was wondering if anyone else on this list was experiencing similar > > >>>results: > > >>> > > >>>With FC2T3 on my laptop (HP Pavilion ze5200) I had several issues > with > > >>>the screen going blank (and the backlight turning off too) during > boot. > > >>>It seemed to happen at random places at different times during boot. > > >>>The system > > >>>would be locked as far as I could tell and I had to power off. I > have > > >>>since tried passing "vga=773" or "vga=normal" to the kernel at boot > time > > >>>and both seem to get me past the screen going blank. (I also pass > > >>>"psmouse.proto=imps" so I can tap-click with my touchpad.) > > >>> > > >>>However, when I exit X - no matter what runlevel I am running in, the > > >>>screen goes immediately blank, backlight is powered off, and as far > as I > > >>>can tell > > >>>the laptop is locked up. This applies to "Log Out", "Reboot", and > > >>>"Shutdown". I have found no related entries in my logs. I have also > > >>>tried passing "acpi=off" to the kernel. > > >>> > > >>>Anyone else have issues like this? I think it is a 2.6 issue more > than > > >>>a FC2 issue. > > >> > > >>I have an hp ze4315us that has a VGA compatible controller: ATI > > >>Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1. > > >> > > >>I tried the 2.5 kernel on it. It seemed to work alright then. > (Shutting > > >>down X) - That was back awhile ago. > > >> > > >>I'd suspect the problem to be with xorg or some other non-kernel > issue. > > >> > > >>I might try to install the 2.6 kernel on this machine to see if the > > >>kernel is not the problem. I stayed at FC1 because of the touchpad > > >>issue. (Doesn't just work). > > >> > > >>About acpi, I cannot boot without acpi. My laptop freezes up at boot > > >>without it. > > >> > > >>Follow-up after installing the latestv Fedora Core 2 kernel on FC1. > I'd > > >>like to try FC2, but was waiting for the synaptic touchpad issue to be > > >>cleared up. > > >> > > >>Jim > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got a Pavillion ze4430us, with the same ATI Mobility U1 card, > that > > > FC2 auto-detects and uses the radeon driver with. I have no problems > on > > > any of the latest kernels. I've seen the blanking problem on other > > > laptops, but have had no trouble with this one. It works just fine for > me. > > > I'd really like the hardware aceleration to work.. but i guess i'll > have > > > to wait on it. > > > > Looks like I lucked out on avoiding the blanking problem. I had an old > > laptop that used s3-virge earlier and it bloomed instead of blanked. > > > > Thanks for the additional information. I figured one vendor, similar > > hardware. > > > > > > > > As for the synaptics touch-pad, it was sad that it's not > auto-detected, > > > however, given that the FC2 release date is very close at hand, unless > > > it's arleady been "fixed", i doubt support will be in the official FC2 > > > release. > > > > > > I can say however, that setting it up was very easy - just grab the > > > synaptics driver, unzip, compile, install, and change the driver lines > in > > > your xorg.conf, just like the install file from the driver says. It > works > > > great after that, no problems at all. > > > > > > > This is the first real 2.6 kernel that I used. I'll have to get the > > synaptic program and do the unzipping, ... installing, manual > > configuration, as descried. The 2.6 kernel does seem a bit quicker. The > > added work won't hold me back from FC2 final. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jim > > > > PS - Sorry Jason, I figured HP laptop = hp laptop. Does the blanking > > problem happen at all resolutions on exit? > > > > > > > > -Quasar > > > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > -- NEU : GMX Internet.FreeDSL Ab sofort DSL-Tarif ohne Grundgeb?hr: http://www.gmx.net/dsl From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Fri May 14 10:00:16 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:00:16 +0100 Subject: Non-accredited mentoring courses Message-ID: <1084528817.30639.8.camel@datacontrol> There is a very strong possibility that the courses scheduled for 27-28 May and 3-4 June will need to be cancelled. Is there any possibility of scheduling a course for late June/early July Mike From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 10:16:55 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 04:16:55 -0600 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? Message-ID: <40A49C97.7080208@xmission.com> Great. So release of FC2 has been announced. However I have yet to see a response to my albeit recent bug. Sounds like your willing to take the gamble. RaXeT From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Fri May 14 10:55:42 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:55:42 +0800 Subject: Non-accredited mentoring courses In-Reply-To: <1084528817.30639.8.camel@datacontrol> References: <1084528817.30639.8.camel@datacontrol> Message-ID: <1084532142.3929.8.camel@server1.example.com> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 18:00, mike wrote: > There is a very strong possibility that the courses scheduled for 27-28 > May and 3-4 June will need to be cancelled. > > Is there any possibility of scheduling a course for late June/early July > > Mike Ummm. Yeah. Wrong window? -- Chris Kloiber From david at tuckerza.com Fri May 14 11:09:19 2004 From: david at tuckerza.com (David Tucker) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:09:19 +0100 Subject: Booting Fedora with GAG Message-ID: <003201c439a3$eb1f3540$0200a8c0@pop> I've just installed Fedora Core 2 test3 on the advice of a friend of mine having mainly been a Windows and FreeBSD user for the past few years. The installation went great but I cannot get Fedora to boot using GAG 4.2 (http://gag.sourceforge.net/) which I currently use to dual boot XP and FreeBSD. I have XP on my primary hard drive which I partitioned for the Fedora install and BSD on my slave drive. GAG is seeing 3 extra partitions on my primary drive 2 of which is recognises as having a linux file system and one that is blank. I have tried booting off all three without any luck. Does anyone have any pointers? XP and BSD are still booting fine so I would prefer to carry on using GAG if possible. Regards David Tucker From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Fri May 14 11:53:39 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 07:53:39 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? Message-ID: <200405141153.i4EBrv0m027339@mx1.redhat.com> Hello, Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. TIA, Bruce From jorton at redhat.com Fri May 14 12:13:46 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:13:46 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 1 Test Update: php-4.3.6-1.3 Message-ID: <20040514121346.GA29025@redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-118 2004-05-14 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : php Version : 4.3.6 Release : 1.3 Summary : The PHP HTML-embedded scripting language. (PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) Description : PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. PHP attempts to make it easy for developers to write dynamically generated webpages. PHP also offers built-in database integration for several commercial and non-commercial database management systems, so writing a database-enabled webpage with PHP is fairly simple. The most common use of PHP coding is probably as a replacement for CGI scripts. The mod_php module enables the Apache Web server to understand and process the embedded PHP language in Web pages. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest stable release of PHP 4 with a large number of bug fixes since the previous 4.3.4 release. Please add any feedback from testing to the tracker bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123095 --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed May 12 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.6-1.3 - fix segfault on httpd SIGHUP (upstream #27810) * Wed May 12 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.6-1.2 - fix default php.ini broken in -1.1; remove broken trigger * Tue May 11 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.6-1.1 - really switch to system pcre * Mon May 10 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.6-1.0 - update to 4.3.6 (Robert Scheck, #121011, #118126) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 67a5fb5ed1d3dde11ccc245e66819b51 SRPMS/php-4.3.6-1.3.src.rpm 4ff55e925250ef3968b2703a66c1befd i386/php-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm f87d6878998569b66eb311261842d4e3 i386/php-devel-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm d845ec531395f03a7c86398ecdb29229 i386/php-imap-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm 2ac95168bc3da3b2a29c343eed80a7bc i386/php-ldap-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm 700c3448eb8a28fc9a05353f601a4a4b i386/php-mysql-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm e6ac1eb7f6f20fe859af51a4b803f34b i386/php-pgsql-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm f06894c9fcb225fe5c5ad647083a202a i386/php-odbc-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm 42087a7cae378f83edfbbb2c964bd1dc i386/php-snmp-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm b4b9ca66ab5dc946344c501c237dae3b i386/php-domxml-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm 65c304fb4ebbfcbde97a3dfe24bbcd7e i386/php-xmlrpc-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm 55633bbd027142a6d7b675e7067e6f75 i386/debug/php-debuginfo-4.3.6-1.3.i386.rpm df1c051ea6cd549dc8be2711e31107af x86_64/php-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm b120643cc510f27d2893d0710611eb21 x86_64/php-devel-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm 5e3357a0b35b41413e868760aa157f44 x86_64/php-imap-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm b063c31c5772d0b3f5871c1224c2fb87 x86_64/php-ldap-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm d9e2938a665c18d261a2f111fbc6e7fa x86_64/php-mysql-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm 5a26d4246445da61f9a7a98b9096f7ca x86_64/php-pgsql-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm 6f2f455a6ab846dd9b4c99ffda5532be x86_64/php-odbc-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm bf3d4f65ff96746b4041bfe535e67074 x86_64/php-snmp-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm 411f4665f6bd01a60ba971cbd1ae30ca x86_64/php-domxml-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm ddb651e2fac23ff5d220a8991e133514 x86_64/php-xmlrpc-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm 619a2d1b325bf3ce53c2abc056a288ee x86_64/debug/php-debuginfo-4.3.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Fri May 14 12:14:22 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:14:22 +0200 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <40A49C97.7080208@xmission.com> References: <40A49C97.7080208@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1084536862.7977.33.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi RaXeT, > Great. So release of FC2 has been announced. However I have yet to see a > response to my albeit recent bug. Sounds like your willing to take the > gamble. What bug would that be? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From boris at alum.mit.edu Fri May 14 12:34:22 2004 From: boris at alum.mit.edu (Boris Goldowsky) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:34:22 -0400 Subject: GnoTime In-Reply-To: References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1084416274.32489.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1084478215.1168.19.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: <1084538061.26892.6.camel@yuff.moxyledge.org> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 17:23, Zachary Kessin wrote: > is GnoTime or a similar time tracking application in recent versions of > Fedora? I can't seem to find an RPM and need a time tracker. There's a gnotime rpm at dag.wieers.com, though it is not the most up to date version, it does work with Fedora. Bng From jerrywone at cox.net Fri May 14 12:38:17 2004 From: jerrywone at cox.net (jerry) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:38:17 -0400 Subject: machine hanging FC2T3 release for AMD64 on nForce3 Gigabyte K8N Pro Message-ID: <40A4BDB9.9020106@cox.net> Hi all: In a fit of somewhat misguided inspiration I installed the complete FC2 Test 3 for AMD64 on an Gigabyte K8N Pro mobo with nvidia nforce 3 with AMD64 3000+, 512 meg DDR400, Maxtor 6Y120P0 120 gig hard drive, IO Magic CDRW 5232, Maddog GeForceFX5200 video using NV34, RTL-8169 Gigabit ethernet, TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller unused. It's been locking up mysteriously. the hardware was not exactly what i had seen on lists as working before another machine went down and hastened a new machine build. the exact mobo was another $100+ up and already over budget, so i thought i'd have somewhat of a project on my hands. ran NON AMD64 FC1 without these problems. Symptoms include GKrellM system monitor shows little activity but moves along so CPU working and not complete "hang", mouse pointer tracks, but no activity on clicks, control-alt-del doesn't, forcing a reset switch, file system integrity check, etc. The installer may have caused the other grub partitions unbootable unless i've been rooted or somesuch as the older /boot is seen as empty. the other partition data appears accessible luckily so far. FC2T3's K3b burned older FC1 partition data ok. I'd rather go forward to final FC2 than back to FC1, but the hanging is getting annoying... I'm not running much besides vanilla FC2T3. Additions listed below: Compiled and installed Gnotime (a newer name for Gnome Time Tracker) with some policy errors, but appears to runs ok. Mucked with NVIDIA drivers but it's a little fuzzy what exactly I did with NVIDIA in the excitement of a 64 bit release. For some reason i thought i needed the nvidia drivers for better nForce3 support. little did i (and still don't) know... Looking for MP3 support for xmms from GURULabs, one of which killed the regular sound, so I went to the helix player hxplay from helixcommunity (which doesn't give graphical icons, but otherwise seems to work ok for .mp3s if willing to drill down directories repeatedly since it loses your last directory use). the prelink daemon process is somewhat of a surprise when it kicks in. as you might have already guessed, i'm not a kernel hacker yet... and this is a mess, but i thought it would be important to let some people know before general release that there may be a problem here. any other specifics i can look up please let me know. any help in troubleshooting appreciated, jerry From shugal at gmx.de Fri May 14 12:39:40 2004 From: shugal at gmx.de (Martin Stricker) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:39:40 +0200 Subject: Tettnang??? References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040513123434.GA6367@redhat.com> <1084503251.23497.3.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <40A4BE0C.527F155A@gmx.de> Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > On May 13, 2004, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 20:34, Gary Benson wrote: > >> We so should have called FC2 "nosebleed" :) > > > We should have named it "Zod!", but that's another story. :) > > Isn't Tettnang German for Zod? :-) :-) Who or what is "Zod"? I coldn't find it (except a few funny pages about General Zod from the Superman II movie). Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 9 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ From richard at littlerichard.org Fri May 14 12:56:31 2004 From: richard at littlerichard.org (Richard) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:56:31 +0200 Subject: Xfce desktop and yum Message-ID: <40A4C1FF.6000704@littlerichard.org> Hi, I'm running latest Fedora Core from development branch, XFce desktop has been included in FC2. But i don't see in yum grouplist a choice to install XFce desktop, which way to get XFce install with yum ? Richard richard_at_littlerichard_dot_org From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 12:57:29 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:57:29 -0400 Subject: GnoTime In-Reply-To: References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1084416274.32489.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1084478215.1168.19.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: <1084539448.1881.225.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 17:23, Zachary Kessin wrote: > is GnoTime or a similar time tracking application in recent versions of > Fedora? I can't seem to find an RPM and need a time tracker. > > Thanks > > -- > Zachary Kessin zkessin at cs.brandeis.edu +972 51 809 717 (Cell) > Custom Internet application development > IM: ZachKessin Zachary, Please start with a new message rather than using "Reply" when starting a new thread. Threaded mail readers show your message embedded far down inside the "Novell/Ximian Connector For Evolution GPL'd" thread. This is known as "hijacking foreign threads", and is frowned upon. Also makes your message harder to spot decreasing the likelihood of a response still further. Dag Wieers packages gnotime for FC1 - would expect FC2 support soon after it officially hits the e-street. yum - add to /etc/yum.conf: [dag] name=Dag APT Repository baseurl=http://dag.atrpms.net/redhat/fc$releasever/en/$basearch/dag http://apt.sw.be/redhat/fc$releasever/en/$basearch/dag failovermethod=priority gpgcheck=1 up2date - add to /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources: yum dag http://dag.atrpms.net/redhat/fcX/en/i386/dag Where X=1 for FC1, X=2 for FC2; change i386 if appropriate. If you can't wait, may want to try the SRPM: http://dag.wieers.com/packages/gnotime/gnotime-2.1.7-0.dag.src.rpm Phil From czar at czarc.net Fri May 14 13:05:41 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:05:41 -0400 Subject: reboot is shutting down hard drives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405140905.41320.czar@czarc.net> On Friday 14 May 2004 00:41, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On May 13, 2004, Kenneth Benson wrote: > > I believe its doing that to cause the hard drives to flush the on-drive > > write buffers. > > Yup. And it's in bugzilla because some boxes won't reboot after disks > were powered off. Broken BIOS :-( Can you provide the bugzilla report number? BTW, is there some kernel parameter we can specify to suppress this? -- Gene From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 13:09:01 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:09:01 -0400 Subject: Booting Fedora with GAG In-Reply-To: <003201c439a3$eb1f3540$0200a8c0@pop> References: <003201c439a3$eb1f3540$0200a8c0@pop> Message-ID: <1084540141.1881.236.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 07:09, David Tucker wrote: > I've just installed Fedora Core 2 test3 on the advice of a friend of mine > having mainly been a Windows and FreeBSD user for the past few years. > > The installation went great but I cannot get Fedora to boot using GAG 4.2 > (http://gag.sourceforge.net/) which I currently use to dual boot XP and > FreeBSD. I have XP on my primary hard drive which I partitioned for the > Fedora install and BSD on my slave drive. GAG is seeing 3 extra partitions > on my primary drive 2 of which is recognises as having a linux file system > and one that is blank. I have tried booting off all three without any luck. > Does anyone have any pointers? XP and BSD are still booting fine so I would > prefer to carry on using GAG if possible. Not up on GAG, (and I thought GRUB was a funky name ;^) but if you install grub on the FC2T3 /boot partition, rather than the primary drive's MBR, you SHOULD be able to get GAG to chain to it. If you didn't do that at install time, will need to boot from the FC2T3 CD#1 in rescue mode and do the job. A search of the list archives will provide everything you need to know. May want to pay particular attention to some of the threads that you are likely to turn up on problems with FC2test/XP dual boot systems, although your hardware configuration seems likely to be immune from them. Phil From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 13:24:37 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:24:37 -0400 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <1084536862.7977.33.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <40A49C97.7080208@xmission.com> <1084536862.7977.33.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084541077.1881.251.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 08:14, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hi RaXeT, > > > Great. So release of FC2 has been announced. However I have yet to see a > > response to my albeit recent bug. Sounds like your willing to take the > > gamble. > > What bug would that be? This prompted me to attempt to access http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi which gives: #-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-# Software error: data/versioncache did not return a true value at globals.pl line 692. For help, please send mail to the webmaster (bugzilla-owner at redhat.com), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. #-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-# (Date/Time seems to be redundant when replying immediately - message header will provide those.) Second report I've made along these lines in as many days. Previous one at home under FC2test, this one on FC1. Bugzilla seems to be sick. Phil From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Fri May 14 13:24:27 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:24:27 +0800 Subject: ZOD! (Was: Re: Tettnang???) In-Reply-To: <40A4BE0C.527F155A@gmx.de> References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040513123434.GA6367@redhat.com> <1084503251.23497.3.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A4BE0C.527F155A@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1084541067.1771.4.camel@server1.example.com> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 20:39, Martin Stricker wrote: > Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > > > On May 13, 2004, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 20:34, Gary Benson wrote: > > >> We so should have called FC2 "nosebleed" :) > > > > > We should have named it "Zod!", but that's another story. :) > > > > Isn't Tettnang German for Zod? :-) :-) > > Who or what is "Zod"? I coldn't find it (except a few funny pages about > General Zod from the Superman II movie). Exactly! This is an old, old rh-internal joke. I guess you had to be there. ;) -- Chris Kloiber From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 13:36:47 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:36:47 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405141153.i4EBrv0m027339@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200405141153.i4EBrv0m027339@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084541807.1881.254.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 07:53, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important > hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. Seems to be doable: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg00487.html Phil From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri May 14 13:41:19 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:41:19 +0200 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <1084541077.1881.251.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <40A49C97.7080208@xmission.com> <1084536862.7977.33.camel@athlon.localdomain> <1084541077.1881.251.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <40A4CC7F.3010808@gmx.de> Phil Schaffner wrote: >This prompted me to attempt to access >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi which gives: > >#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-# >Software error: > >data/versioncache did not return a true value at globals.pl line 692. > >For help, please send mail to the webmaster (bugzilla-owner at redhat.com), >giving this error message and the time and date of the error. > >#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-# > >(Date/Time seems to be redundant when replying immediately - message >header will provide those.) > >Second report I've made along these lines in as many days. Previous one >at home under FC2test, this one on FC1. Bugzilla seems to be sick. > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- bugzilla at bugzilla.redhat.com (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to bugzilla.redhat.com.: >>>>>> MAIL From: SIZE=328 >>> >>> <<< 452 4.4.5 Insufficient disk space; try again later bugzilla at bugzilla.redhat.com... Deferred: 452 4.4.5 Insufficient disk space; try again later Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old -- shrek-m From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri May 14 13:43:27 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:43:27 -0400 Subject: Xfce desktop and yum In-Reply-To: <40A4C1FF.6000704@littlerichard.org> References: <40A4C1FF.6000704@littlerichard.org> Message-ID: <1084542207.9636.3.camel@opus> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 08:56, Richard wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running latest Fedora Core from development branch, XFce desktop has > been included in FC2. > But i don't see in yum grouplist a choice to install XFce desktop, > which way to get XFce install with yum ? > afaict there is no xfce group. There probably should be, but you can just do: yum install xffm\* xfwm4\* xfce\* xfdesktop That should get all the things you're looking for. -sv From shugal at gmx.de Fri May 14 13:55:57 2004 From: shugal at gmx.de (Martin Stricker) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:55:57 +0200 Subject: ZOD! (Was: Re: Tettnang???) References: <1084396097.1881.17.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <20040513123434.GA6367@redhat.com> <1084503251.23497.3.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A4BE0C.527F155A@gmx.de> <1084541067.1771.4.camel@server1.example.com> Message-ID: <40A4CFED.30177537@gmx.de> Chris Kloiber wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 20:39, Martin Stricker wrote: > > Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > > > > > On May 13, 2004, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > > > We should have named it "Zod!", but that's another story. :) > > > > > > Isn't Tettnang German for Zod? :-) :-) > > > > Who or what is "Zod"? I coldn't find it (except a few funny pages > > about General Zod from the Superman II movie). > > Exactly! > > This is an old, old rh-internal joke. I guess you had to be there. The usual problem with insider jokes... Fits to the "Linux world domination" rants... ;-) Especially after having read these links! ;=D http://www.weathergraphics.com/zod http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ZOD http://www.i-mockery.com/GeneralZod/askzod.asp Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 9 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ From steve at silug.org Fri May 14 14:00:50 2004 From: steve at silug.org (Steven Pritchard) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:00:50 -0500 Subject: ntpd broken? Message-ID: <20040514140050.GA17754@osiris.silug.org> I have a public ntp server that doesn't seem to be responding to requests on the network since upgrading it to test3/rawhide. (It syncs up just fine, but no other systems can sync to it.) The config hasn't changed. Maybe it should? Suggestions are welcome. I was going to check bugzilla for open problems with ntp, but it seems to be down at the moment... Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)398-7360 Mobile: (618)567-7320 From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 14:05:48 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:05:48 -0400 Subject: Bugzilla problems [was Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18??] Message-ID: <1084543547.1881.272.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 09:41, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: Phil Schaffner wrote: > > >This prompted me to attempt to access > >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi which gives: > > > >#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-# > >Software error: > > > >data/versioncache did not return a true value at globals.pl line 692. > > > >For help, please send mail to the webmaster (bugzilla-owner at redhat.com), > >giving this error message and the time and date of the error. > > > >#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-# > > > >(Date/Time seems to be redundant when replying immediately - message > >header will provide those.) > > > >Second report I've made along these lines in as many days. Previous one > >at home under FC2test, this one on FC1. Bugzilla seems to be sick. > > > > > > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- > bugzilla at bugzilla.redhat.com > (expanded from: ) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to bugzilla.redhat.com.: > > >>>>>> MAIL From: SIZE=328 > >>> > >>> > <<< 452 4.4.5 Insufficient disk space; try again later > bugzilla at bugzilla.redhat.com... Deferred: 452 4.4.5 Insufficient disk space; try again later > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > So, Catch 22? Insufficient disk space is causing bugzilla to fail, but can't be reported due to insufficient disk space? Found this mentioned in at least one other thread also. Haven't seem a bounce from one of my messages yet, but didn't stay on long enough last night, and hasn't been 4 hours at work yet. Hope Bugzilla guys are reading the lists. Phil From guy at incentre.net Fri May 14 14:26:54 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:26:54 -0600 Subject: Intel 82801 sound problem In-Reply-To: <40A4664D.3080204@wanadoo.fr> References: <40A4664D.3080204@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <40A4D72E.5050504@incentre.net> I am not sure how to get rid of the "Rumble", but if you open the sound mixer {full volume control} you need to adjust most of volume levels all the way up to figure out which one is keeping the sound low. The "Rumble" may be from one of the inputs that is not in use being turned up. I have an Intel sound chip on one of my Mother Boards, and after I tuned up all the volumes I could get sound when running the test. The next thing you will have to do is enable the sound server in preferences under sound. You may need to mess with some of the application settings to make sure they are using a compatible device. Hope that helps. jack fulghum wrote: > I have exactly the same "rumble" here on a Shuttle G-75. After > various searches I am back to FC1 until release next week. Unless I > have missed something (quite possible) it does not appear to be a > known bug. No problem at all with FC1 but appeared with T2 and still > there on T3 (did not try T1). > > Jack From tony at involution.com Fri May 14 14:26:52 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:26:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Anyone compiled and RPM the Netspeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: <1084543547.1881.272.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: Hmmm, has anyone made an rpm for the NetSpeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? http://mfcn.ilo.de/netspeed_applet/ ...Or is there some other "additional-applets"-type package with the distro that I missed? Tony From guy at incentre.net Fri May 14 14:35:12 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:35:12 -0600 Subject: reboot is shutting down hard drives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A4D920.2090101@incentre.net> Alexandre Oliva wrote: >On May 13, 2004, Kenneth Benson wrote: > > >>I believe its doing that to cause the hard drives to flush the on-drive >>write buffers. >> >> > >Yup. And it's in bugzilla because some boxes won't reboot after disks >were powered off. Broken BIOS :-( > > >>>From: J. Scott Amort [mailto:jsamort at shaw.ca] >>>Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:40 PM >>> >>> >>>(as of May 12), and running kernel 2.6.5-1.358. When I do a system >>>reboot, it actually powers down the hard drives (the message >>> >>> Not trying to start a flame war or compare apples to egg crates, but XP does the same thing. I just noticed last night, after powering down my FC2-Test3 box and the hard drives powered down before the m/c shut off. I noticed that XP did the same thing when I shut it down. From guy at incentre.net Fri May 14 14:47:40 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:47:40 -0600 Subject: Sound In-Reply-To: <1084433751.3150.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084359781.3567.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A21788.9050602@earthlink.net> <1084433751.3150.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A4DC0C.2080503@incentre.net> Kevin Jones wrote: >Thanks, > >On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 13:24, Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>Kevin Jones wrote: >> >> >>>I have a weird sound problem on Fedora Core2-Test3. I can play CDs, and >>>I can play sound files that are on the computer, however I don't get any >>>system sounds. The sound daemon (esd) is running and I've enabled system >>>sounds through the gnome-sound-properties (oh, did I say this was on >>>Gnome). Any ideas would be gratefully received, >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Kevin Jones >>> >>> >>This is a bug. See >> >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122927 >> >>Gerry Tool >> >> I had the same problem, but they did start to work. I am not sure what made it work, because I messed around with a bunch of things. After turning all the volume controls all the way up, and enabling the sound server then enabling system sounds, it still was not working. I logged out then logged back in, still nothing. So I logged out and logged in as root and did the same things, still nothing. I think I rebooted, or switched to init 3 and then back to init 5 then it started to work. My lame guess is that the sound system only starts when the gdm is is started. It would be nice if the system sounds were enable by default if a sound system is available. It would also be nice if the volume control levels were all turned up when testing the sound cards and at first boot. These seem to be the most frequent complaints. From tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com Fri May 14 14:47:56 2004 From: tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: 14 May 2004 16:47:56 +0200 Subject: Anyone compiled and RPM the Netspeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084546076.23608.3.camel@tarjei> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 16:26, Tony Perrie wrote: > Hmmm, has anyone made an rpm for the NetSpeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? > > http://mfcn.ilo.de/netspeed_applet/ > > ...Or is there some other "additional-applets"-type package with the > distro that I missed? > Please don't hijack threads. http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/packages.php -- Tarjei From tony at involution.com Fri May 14 14:50:36 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:50:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Anyone compiled a Netspeed Gnome Applet RPM for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: <1084546076.23608.3.camel@tarjei> Message-ID: I only see FC1 binaries there. Thanks. I suppose I could compile it myself, but I just wanted to avoid install a cadre of -devel packages. Also, what's up with all the SELinux messages when I use rpm and rpmbuild on FC2? Is there anyway to disable all of that cruft? Tony On 14 May 2004, Tarjei Knapstad wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 16:26, Tony Perrie wrote: > > Hmmm, has anyone made an rpm for the NetSpeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? > > > > http://mfcn.ilo.de/netspeed_applet/ > > > > ...Or is there some other "additional-applets"-type package with the > > distro that I missed? > > > > Please don't hijack threads. > > http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/packages.php > > -- > Tarjei > > > > -- From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 14:57:27 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:57:27 -0400 Subject: Anyone compiled and RPM the Netspeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084546646.1881.299.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 10:26, Tony Perrie wrote: > Hmmm, has anyone made an rpm for the NetSpeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? > > http://mfcn.ilo.de/netspeed_applet/ > > ...Or is there some other "additional-applets"-type package with the > distro that I missed? The page you referenced has a link that leads to: http://yum.bravegnuworld.com/yum/fc/1/RPMS.bgw/ Seems to have been discussed on fedora-devel but apparently didn't make the cut. From guy at incentre.net Fri May 14 14:59:48 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:59:48 -0600 Subject: Sound on Intel i845 in test3 In-Reply-To: <40A2FDB9.2010908@comcast.net> References: <40A2FDB9.2010908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <40A4DEE4.8020906@incentre.net> James Jensen wrote: > I'm currently running FC2 test3 (which I upgraded to from FC1) on a > computer that uses Intel i845 integrated sound chipset. > > My problem is that while my chipset is properly detected by the > soundcard detection tool, I cannot get audio to work on my computer. > This problem did not occur with FC1, and there is no problem with > sound on Windows (I have the machine set up for a duel-boot). > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? I did a fresh install, not an upgrade. After saying yes to the sound card working even though I did not hear anything, I cranked all the volume controls all the way up, enabled the sound server and system sounds in gnome, then rebooted. I did have system sounds then. Unfortunately I put that drive into another machine to see how a fresh install would work on it, so I don't have a module list for that machine. The machine I put the drive into has the Intel 845 chip set but it has a SoundMax ADI198x codec chip, so I'm not sure if it has the same modules. I had to mess around to get the volumes turned up and the sound server working, but I was getting the "jingle" when I shut down. I didn't have any music to play on that machine so I never tried to listen to any music. From tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com Fri May 14 15:04:59 2004 From: tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: 14 May 2004 17:04:59 +0200 Subject: Anyone compiled a Netspeed Gnome Applet RPM for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084547099.23608.8.camel@tarjei> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 16:50, Tony Perrie wrote: > I only see FC1 binaries there. Thanks. I suppose I could compile it > myself, but I just wanted to avoid install a cadre of -devel packages. > Also, what's up with all the SELinux messages when I use rpm and rpmbuild > on FC2? Is there anyway to disable all of that cruft? > Yes, FC2 packages won't be available until FC2 is released. Grab the SRPM and do a rebuild (rpmbuild --rebuild somepackage.src.rpm) If you don't have a development environment set up, you'll just have to be patient (or install all the stuff that's needed). Don't know about SElinux, guess the easiest way is just to disable SE while you get the package built and then re-enable it. (You can allways take down the network if you're really paranoid :) ) -- Tarjei From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 15:14:32 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:14:32 -0600 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405141153.i4EBrv0m027339@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <000401c439c6$28c60370$0200000a@frank> No it won't. Redhat is in too much of a hurry to consider that firewire be fixed in 2.6 kernel. :( -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bruce P. Morin Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:54 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? Hello, Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. TIA, Bruce -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 15:16:13 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:16:13 -0600 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <1084536862.7977.33.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <000501c439c6$6558c200$0200000a@frank> #123067 -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Leonard den Ottolander Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 6:14 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? Hi RaXeT, > Great. So release of FC2 has been announced. However I have yet to see a > response to my albeit recent bug. Sounds like your willing to take the > gamble. What bug would that be? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 15:17:52 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:17:52 -0600 Subject: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support In-Reply-To: <20040509204002.GB27537@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <000601c439c6$a05fb070$0200000a@frank> Alan, That's the same song and dance you gave me. No acpi=off won't change the problem. Neither will pnpbios=off either. It's hosed. Face the facts FC2 T3 install from iso cd's fails on any P4P800 mobo from Asus. RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 2:40 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Creating a driver diskette for ICH5 with SATA driver support On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 01:15:41PM -0600, raxet wrote: > It doesn't work on a new mobo P4P800 with no other drive but SATA. I'm doing > IOW, I need to somehow create the dd (driver disk) and then do one of those > funky installs that drive everyone absolutely crazy. What happens currently: > FC2 T3 install CD 1 in drive, select graphical install, trys to uncompress > the kernel and voila, NADA. Hangs ? Try acpi=off, you may also need specific BIOS versions on the P4P800 right now its in the "mysteriously non happy" board category. So it shouldnt be SATA related if it just hangs after uncomressing -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mattdm at mattdm.org Fri May 14 15:32:36 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:32:36 -0400 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <000501c439c6$6558c200$0200000a@frank> References: <1084536862.7977.33.camel@athlon.localdomain> <000501c439c6$6558c200$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <20040514153236.GA24000@jadzia.bu.edu> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 09:16:13AM -0600, raxet wrote: > #123067 Please don't top-post; it makes it hard to help you out, because it's hard to reply and keep context. Anyway, where does this hang happen exactly? That's a key detail that's missing from the bug report. Also, you've filed it against initscripts, when it seems to be a problem in the installer kernel, so should be filed against either anaconda or the kernel itself. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From tony at involution.com Fri May 14 15:30:36 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:30:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Anyone compiled a Netspeed Gnome Applet RPM for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: <1084547099.23608.8.camel@tarjei> Message-ID: I thought SELinux was disabled by default? Tony On 14 May 2004, Tarjei Knapstad wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 16:50, Tony Perrie wrote: > > I only see FC1 binaries there. Thanks. I suppose I could compile it > > myself, but I just wanted to avoid install a cadre of -devel packages. > > Also, what's up with all the SELinux messages when I use rpm and rpmbuild > > on FC2? Is there anyway to disable all of that cruft? > > > > Yes, FC2 packages won't be available until FC2 is released. Grab the > SRPM and do a rebuild (rpmbuild --rebuild somepackage.src.rpm) > If you don't have a development environment set up, you'll just have to > be patient (or install all the stuff that's needed). > > Don't know about SElinux, guess the easiest way is just to disable SE > while you get the package built and then re-enable it. (You can allways > take down the network if you're really paranoid :) ) > > -- > Tarjei > > > -- From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 15:40:05 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:40:05 -0600 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <20040514153236.GA24000@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <000001c439c9$ba9197d0$0200000a@frank> It's very well documented in the bug. But for those who can't read my post: It hangs just after initrd.gz expands, or rather it simply reboots the system. I have installed each iteration of FC1 and FC2 other than the infamous FC2 T3 and they all install or upgrade without a hitch. I have Tested and retested the ISO's via mediacheck and MD5SUM and there is Absolutely nothing wrong with the cd's. Either way when I brought this problem up earlier in a post to fedora-test-list, Alan said to turn off acpi and such. Well I've tried that to and it Still won't install. Also when attempting to access the bug I did post the server refuses my access to 123067. Annoyed, RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Miller Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:33 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 09:16:13AM -0600, raxet wrote: > #123067 Please don't top-post; it makes it hard to help you out, because it's hard to reply and keep context. Anyway, where does this hang happen exactly? That's a key detail that's missing from the bug report. Also, you've filed it against initscripts, when it seems to be a problem in the installer kernel, so should be filed against either anaconda or the kernel itself. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Fri May 14 15:42:49 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:42:49 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <000401c439c6$28c60370$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> Raxet, That's too bad. SuSE gets this right, out of the box plus their kernel is built with multi lun option turned on so most usb multi-card readers work without having to recompile the kernel. RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously as it has always been a struggle to get it working, and that's a shame as it is great technology. I am going to try the fix that Phil mentioned, but if that doesn't work, it looks like we are going to have to change distros as I don't have the time or inclination to deal with something that by now, should just work. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: raxet [mailto:maxer1 at xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:15 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; 'For testers of Fedora Core development releases' Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? No it won't. Redhat is in too much of a hurry to consider that firewire be fixed in 2.6 kernel. :( -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bruce P. Morin Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:54 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? Hello, Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. TIA, Bruce -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 15:45:07 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:45:07 -0600 Subject: Reassignment of bug 123067 for Firewire Message-ID: <000201c439ca$6ebb9260$0200000a@frank> OK, I've changed the bug 123067 to correctly show "TEST3" and changed from initscripts to kernel. RaXeT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 15:52:16 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:52:16 -0600 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701c439cb$6e87bbb0$0200000a@frank> I don't believe your statement on RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously. They have. Where they fell down was to incorporate 2.6.5 kernel Without (by default) make module for IEEE1394. If I custom kernel that, it works for me. According to an earlier post the reason they didn't turn that on was to wait for some upstream kernel fix yet to occur. RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: Bruce P. Morin [mailto:bpmorin at safepointetech.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:39 AM To: 'raxet' Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? Raxet, That's too bad. SuSE gets this right, out of the box plus their kernel is built with multi lun option turned on so most usb multi-card readers work without having to recompile the kernel. RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously as it has always been a struggle to get it working, and that's a shame as it is great technology. I am going to try the fix that Phil mentioned, but if that doesn't work, it looks like we are going to have to change distros as I don't have the time or inclination to deal with something that by now, should just work. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: raxet [mailto:maxer1 at xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:15 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; 'For testers of Fedora Core development releases' Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? No it won't. Redhat is in too much of a hurry to consider that firewire be fixed in 2.6 kernel. :( -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bruce P. Morin Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:54 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? Hello, Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. TIA, Bruce -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From guy at incentre.net Fri May 14 15:52:45 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:52:45 -0600 Subject: When can we see the inclusion of Video Players for RedhatFedora? In-Reply-To: <20040513222846.GA30480@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> <20040513072641.GA26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A3F38C.8100C8F8@gmx.de> <20040513222846.GA30480@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A4EB4D.6000001@incentre.net> Alan Cox wrote: >On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 12:15:40AM +0200, Martin Stricker wrote: > > >>So what about moving to a place with more reasonable laws? This is >>becomming annoying - many other distros have video players on board. >> >> >I would expect that to change. SuSE is now Novell owned so the moment >Novells legal team finish a patent audit there is bound to be fallout. > >If you want truely free video then help finish Theora. > > Legal Smegol. ;-) Does any one remember the days, when RH used to provide a disk with "Commercial and Demo Applications". When you installed the app, there was a notice informing you that you had to get a license. Why don't we switch from yum to apt, install synaptic and then have a configuration option or preference option that allows people to access "commercial or unsupported applications" and it enables non RH repositories with these other apps. Synaptic is a great package manager, and it not only allows you to update applications you have installed, but it also allows you to install any application from the configured repositories. As long as RH does not have any of the apps at issue on their site and do not allow access to such software by default, I can't see how making it easier for people to get the said software could be a problem for RH. Maybe someone with legal knowledge could comment. From guy at incentre.net Fri May 14 15:57:31 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:57:31 -0600 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405141153.i4EBrv0m027339@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200405141153.i4EBrv0m027339@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A4EC6B.4040504@incentre.net> What is the problem, the firewire on my ASUS P4PE mother board and the firewire on my ATI AIW 8500DV both detect and drivers have loaded since RHL 9. I have never had a firewire device to plug in, so I have no way of knowing if it actualy works or not. Do your drivers not load, or do the apps not work? Bruce P. Morin wrote: >Hello, > >Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important >hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. > >TIA, > >Bruce > From heiny at eznet.net Fri May 14 15:58:58 2004 From: heiny at eznet.net (Christopher Heiny) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:58:58 -0700 Subject: machine hanging FC2T3 release for AMD64 on nForce3 Gigabyte K8N Pro In-Reply-To: <20040514144753.DAF8773BEB@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040514144753.DAF8773BEB@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405140858.58262.heiny@eznet.net> On Friday 14 May 2004 07:47 am, fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com scribed thusly in the great archives: > the hardware was not exactly what i had seen on lists as working before > another machine went down and hastened a new machine build. the exact > mobo was another $100+ up and already over budget, so i thought i'd have > somewhat of a project on my hands. ran NON AMD64 FC1 without these > problems. Well, at the risk of seeming "me too"ish, well... me too Setup is essentially identical in its basic, symptoms are similar even without additions. I've had to switch to the 32 bit release, mainly because that system is my primary work computer at the moment. Let me know if you file a bug on this, so I can track status. Chris From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Fri May 14 16:02:18 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:02:18 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <000701c439cb$6e87bbb0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <200405141602.i4EG2UAX010906@mx3.redhat.com> Well, To solidify my point, any distro, including this one, who ships a final release without IEEE1394 support, can't really take the hardware seriously now can it? I can see beta or testing releases without the support, but my question was, "Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2?" As I mentioned earlier, SuSE gets this right out of the box. With the exception of Firewire800, this technology has been around a while. If there is a bug in 2.6.5, then why use it? If I recall correctly, SuSE uses 2.6.4. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: raxet [mailto:maxer1 at xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:52 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? I don't believe your statement on RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously. They have. Where they fell down was to incorporate 2.6.5 kernel Without (by default) make module for IEEE1394. If I custom kernel that, it works for me. According to an earlier post the reason they didn't turn that on was to wait for some upstream kernel fix yet to occur. RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: Bruce P. Morin [mailto:bpmorin at safepointetech.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:39 AM To: 'raxet' Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? Raxet, That's too bad. SuSE gets this right, out of the box plus their kernel is built with multi lun option turned on so most usb multi-card readers work without having to recompile the kernel. RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously as it has always been a struggle to get it working, and that's a shame as it is great technology. I am going to try the fix that Phil mentioned, but if that doesn't work, it looks like we are going to have to change distros as I don't have the time or inclination to deal with something that by now, should just work. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: raxet [mailto:maxer1 at xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:15 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; 'For testers of Fedora Core development releases' Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? No it won't. Redhat is in too much of a hurry to consider that firewire be fixed in 2.6 kernel. :( -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bruce P. Morin Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:54 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? Hello, Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. TIA, Bruce -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From heiny at eznet.net Fri May 14 16:03:28 2004 From: heiny at eznet.net (Christopher Heiny) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:03:28 -0700 Subject: FC2T3 on Toshiba Satellite S5205 Message-ID: <200405140903.28649.heiny@eznet.net> Has anyone tried installing FC2T3 on a Toshiba Satellite S5205 yet? If so, what luck did you have? I would try it on my own 5205, but I've already got FC2T3 acting wonky on my main desktop system, and I can't afford to have problems with both that and the laptop at the same time. Once the desktop system is sorted, I'll try it on the Satellite. From guy at incentre.net Fri May 14 16:04:39 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:04:39 -0600 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <000001c439c9$ba9197d0$0200000a@frank> References: <000001c439c9$ba9197d0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <40A4EE17.9050109@incentre.net> raxet wrote: >It's very well documented in the bug. But for those who can't read my post: > >It hangs just after initrd.gz expands, or rather it simply reboots the >system. I have installed each iteration of FC1 and FC2 other than the >infamous FC2 T3 and they all install or upgrade without a hitch. I have >Tested and retested the ISO's via mediacheck and MD5SUM and there is >Absolutely nothing wrong with the cd's. > >Either way when I brought this problem up earlier in a post to >fedora-test-list, Alan said to turn off acpi and such. Well I've tried that >to and it >Still won't install. > >Also when attempting to access the bug I did post the server refuses my >access to 123067. > >Annoyed, > >RaXeT > > ...snip... I had FC2-Test3 stall or hang, when I had a USB 2.0 drive attached. I unplugged the drive and the install went as planned. Did the original poster have a USB drive attached? From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 16:05:02 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:05:02 -0600 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <40A4EC6B.4040504@incentre.net> Message-ID: <000001c439cd$36e7db20$0200000a@frank> It's more a less a matter of kernel version. In the case of FC2 release, firewire will not be a hot item (sorry for the pun). You see somewhere back in kernel 2.6.4 or 2.6.3 something broke and therefore while you Can make custom kernels and make Firewire work, RH (in their infinite Wisdom) has decided to frost Firewire in release of FC2. It's really a simple move. However I feel it was a WRONG move. :) -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Guy Fraser Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:58 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Working Firewire in FC2? What is the problem, the firewire on my ASUS P4PE mother board and the firewire on my ATI AIW 8500DV both detect and drivers have loaded since RHL 9. I have never had a firewire device to plug in, so I have no way of knowing if it actualy works or not. Do your drivers not load, or do the apps not work? Bruce P. Morin wrote: >Hello, > >Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important >hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. > >TIA, > >Bruce > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 16:06:42 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:06:42 -0600 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405141602.i4EG2UAX010906@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <000101c439cd$72a1c5e0$0200000a@frank> Bruce. I concur here, but you and I are a dying breed. Firewire is just to HOT for RH to consider seriously at this time. Again sorry for the pun. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bruce P. Morin Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:02 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? Well, To solidify my point, any distro, including this one, who ships a final release without IEEE1394 support, can't really take the hardware seriously now can it? I can see beta or testing releases without the support, but my question was, "Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2?" As I mentioned earlier, SuSE gets this right out of the box. With the exception of Firewire800, this technology has been around a while. If there is a bug in 2.6.5, then why use it? If I recall correctly, SuSE uses 2.6.4. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: raxet [mailto:maxer1 at xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:52 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? I don't believe your statement on RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously. They have. Where they fell down was to incorporate 2.6.5 kernel Without (by default) make module for IEEE1394. If I custom kernel that, it works for me. According to an earlier post the reason they didn't turn that on was to wait for some upstream kernel fix yet to occur. RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: Bruce P. Morin [mailto:bpmorin at safepointetech.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:39 AM To: 'raxet' Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? Raxet, That's too bad. SuSE gets this right, out of the box plus their kernel is built with multi lun option turned on so most usb multi-card readers work without having to recompile the kernel. RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously as it has always been a struggle to get it working, and that's a shame as it is great technology. I am going to try the fix that Phil mentioned, but if that doesn't work, it looks like we are going to have to change distros as I don't have the time or inclination to deal with something that by now, should just work. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: raxet [mailto:maxer1 at xmission.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:15 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; 'For testers of Fedora Core development releases' Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? No it won't. Redhat is in too much of a hurry to consider that firewire be fixed in 2.6 kernel. :( -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bruce P. Morin Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:54 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? Hello, Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. TIA, Bruce -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 16:09:53 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:09:53 -0600 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <40A4EE17.9050109@incentre.net> Message-ID: <000201c439cd$e4648b90$0200000a@frank> USB 2.0 has nothing to do with it. Since every install on any system I've used P4P800SE or not had no issues with USB 2. However to placate the masses, I turned off USB 2.0, found an archaic relic of the past, a 5 pin din connector keyboard (M'Soft) and that STILL didn't change the fail of FC2 T3 on this mobo. NEXT? RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Guy Fraser Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:05 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? raxet wrote: >It's very well documented in the bug. But for those who can't read my post: > >It hangs just after initrd.gz expands, or rather it simply reboots the >system. I have installed each iteration of FC1 and FC2 other than the >infamous FC2 T3 and they all install or upgrade without a hitch. I have >Tested and retested the ISO's via mediacheck and MD5SUM and there is >Absolutely nothing wrong with the cd's. > >Either way when I brought this problem up earlier in a post to >fedora-test-list, Alan said to turn off acpi and such. Well I've tried that >to and it >Still won't install. > >Also when attempting to access the bug I did post the server refuses my >access to 123067. > >Annoyed, > >RaXeT > > ...snip... I had FC2-Test3 stall or hang, when I had a USB 2.0 drive attached. I unplugged the drive and the install went as planned. Did the original poster have a USB drive attached? -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From michael181189 at hotmail.com Fri May 14 16:08:55 2004 From: michael181189 at hotmail.com (Michael Cullen) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:08:55 +0000 Subject: final release Message-ID: why is it that the files are on the server, but we cant access them untill the 18th? why cant we download them now? they are clearly available!! _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Fri May 14 16:08:31 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:08:31 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <40A4EC6B.4040504@incentre.net> Message-ID: <200405141608.i4EG8gAX012794@mx3.redhat.com> Guy, There is an issue with this and I believe Kudzu. When we create a custom Kernel to enable Firewire support (Which I believe we shouldn't have to in a released version) the hardware detection hangs on reboot. I was going to try to research this some more, but seeing as the final release is only days away, I thought I would wait. But curiosity got the best of me, so I asked the question, hoping someone with a little more inside information would be able to tell me if it was worth the wait. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Guy Fraser [mailto:guy at incentre.net] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:58 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Working Firewire in FC2? What is the problem, the firewire on my ASUS P4PE mother board and the firewire on my ATI AIW 8500DV both detect and drivers have loaded since RHL 9. I have never had a firewire device to plug in, so I have no way of knowing if it actualy works or not. Do your drivers not load, or do the apps not work? Bruce P. Morin wrote: >Hello, > >Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important >hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. > >TIA, > >Bruce > From thomasz at hostmaster.org Fri May 14 16:12:43 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:12:43 +0200 Subject: ntpd broken? In-Reply-To: <20040514140050.GA17754@osiris.silug.org> References: <20040514140050.GA17754@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <1084551163.4903.1.camel@forum-beta.geizhals.at> I've had the same problem, caused by the notrust flag in /etc/ntp.conf Tom From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 16:12:47 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:12:47 -0600 Subject: FWIW Message-ID: <000301c439ce$4c351550$0200000a@frank> With all the posts re: Firewire and FC2 T3, I created a folder expressly to handle the load. I entitled it FIREWIRE HELL. :-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From h.mayer at inode.at Fri May 14 16:14:11 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:14:11 +0200 Subject: Booting from Ultra ATA Controller -> Kernel Panic Message-ID: <40A4F053.8020705@inode.at> Hi all! Today I bought an additional IDE controller (ULTRA ATA - 133 PCI Controller - no other brand visible). Now my machine looks like the following: Motherboard-controller: Primary HD (windoze) + Secondary HD (data on NTFS) New IDE controller: Fedora HD as master My BIOS recognizes the controller IT8212 ATAPI BIOS V1.4.1.2 it is scanning the bus, gets the Fedora HD on the controller and I can boot from the Fedora HD via BIOS boot options. The GRUB screen comes up, but then: mkrootdev: label / not found mount: error 2 mounting ext3 pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2 umount /initrd/proc failed: 2 Freeing unused kernel memory: 148k freed Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel I tried to remove the root= option from the line in GRUB as mentioned in some earlier posts, aswell as adding hdc=ide-scsi, but no avail... Any ideas on how to get the kernel to recognize / ? Thanks a lot in advance! Cheers, Hannes. PS: Before I got the controller card, I had the Fedora HD as secondary on the motherboard controller and it booted just fine with the BIOS boot options. From mattdm at mattdm.org Fri May 14 16:21:27 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:21:27 -0400 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <000001c439c9$ba9197d0$0200000a@frank> References: <20040514153236.GA24000@jadzia.bu.edu> <000001c439c9$ba9197d0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <20040514162127.GA25790@jadzia.bu.edu> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 09:40:05AM -0600, raxet wrote: > It's very well documented in the bug. But for those who can't read my post: No, it's really not. It's unclear at _exactly_ what point the hang happens. > It hangs just after initrd.gz expands, or rather it simply reboots the > system. I have installed each iteration of FC1 and FC2 other than the "Just after" is an important thing to say. Even better would be to say exactly what's on the screen. And your bug report doesn't mention that it reboots -- that's very different from 'hangs'. > Annoyed, Sorry that you're annoyed; I'm trying to help. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From dalen at czexan.net Fri May 14 16:31:11 2004 From: dalen at czexan.net (dalen) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:31:11 -0500 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A4F44F.4020302@czexan.net> Michael Cullen wrote: > why is it that the files are on the server, but we cant access them > untill the 18th? why cant we download them now? they are clearly > available!! Perhaps to allow time for files to get to ALL the mirror servers. Maybe a torrent file will surface before the 18th:) From eugen at leitl.org Fri May 14 16:35:30 2004 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:35:30 +0200 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <40A4F44F.4020302@czexan.net> References: <40A4F44F.4020302@czexan.net> Message-ID: <20040514163530.GW25728@leitl.org> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:31:11AM -0500, dalen wrote: > Perhaps to allow time for files to get to ALL the mirror servers. Maybe > a torrent file will surface before the 18th:) I keep checking http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ obsessively, but it ain't there yet. -- Eugen* Leitl leitl ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However to placate the > masses, I turned off USB 2.0, found an archaic relic of the past, a 5 pin > din connector keyboard (M'Soft) and that STILL didn't change the fail of > FC2 T3 on this mobo. > > NEXT? > > RaXeT > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Guy Fraser > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:05 AM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? > > raxet wrote: > > >>It's very well documented in the bug. But for those who can't read my post: >> >>It hangs just after initrd.gz expands, or rather it simply reboots the >>system. I have installed each iteration of FC1 and FC2 other than the >>infamous FC2 T3 and they all install or upgrade without a hitch. I have >>Tested and retested the ISO's via mediacheck and MD5SUM and there is >>Absolutely nothing wrong with the cd's. >> >>Either way when I brought this problem up earlier in a post to >>fedora-test-list, Alan said to turn off acpi and such. Well I've tried that >>to and it >>Still won't install. >> >>Also when attempting to access the bug I did post the server refuses my >>access to 123067. >> >>Annoyed, >> >>RaXeT >> >> > > ...snip... > > I had FC2-Test3 stall or hang, when I had a USB 2.0 drive attached. I > unplugged the drive and the install went as planned. > > Did the original poster have a USB drive attached? > > > The FC2 Release Notes say the following: Installation-Related Issues * Attempts to install Fedora Core 2 on ASUS? motherboards in the P4P800 series may not proceed past the "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." message, making installation impossible. No workaround is available at this time. For more information, monitor bug 121819: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121819 * Gerry Tool From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Fri May 14 16:47:16 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:47:16 +0200 Subject: ASUS mobo issues [was: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18??] In-Reply-To: <40A4F5D7.3090602@earthlink.net> References: <000201c439cd$e4648b90$0200000a@frank> <40A4F5D7.3090602@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1084553236.7977.50.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi, > Attempts to install Fedora Core 2 on ASUS? motherboards in the > P4P800 series may not proceed past the "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, > booting the kernel." message, making installation impossible. No > workaround is available at this time. For more information, monitor bug > 121819: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121819 A possibility is to install FC2 on another machine, boot the ASUS box with an FC1 rescue CD, export the file system on which to install and mount on the source box. Then use an rpm --aid --root installation. (rpm now requires you to *first* install the rpmdb to the target, or --aid will not work). Install a boot loader and see if it boots. Possibly not :( . Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Fri May 14 16:07:03 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:07:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <000001c439c9$ba9197d0$0200000a@frank> References: <000001c439c9$ba9197d0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 May 2004, raxet wrote: > It's very well documented in the bug. But for those who can't read my post: > > It hangs just after initrd.gz expands, or rather it simply reboots the > system. I have installed each iteration of FC1 and FC2 other than the > infamous FC2 T3 and they all install or upgrade without a hitch. I have > Tested and retested the ISO's via mediacheck and MD5SUM and there is > Absolutely nothing wrong with the cd's. If you have a file system and grub on your system, you can test it without using the CD. Just copy the vmlinuz and initrd.img to a suitable location eg. in the root directory of sda1 or hda1, then at the grub command prompt root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz initrd /initrd.img boot If you have the isos on the hard disk as well you can to a full upgrade by this method. > Also when attempting to access the bug I did post the server refuses my > access to 123067. Bugzilla was foobared until very recently. Michael Young From sopwith at redhat.com Fri May 14 16:52:42 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: final release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 May 2004, Michael Cullen wrote: > why is it that the files are on the server, but we cant access them > untill the 18th? why cant we download them now? they are clearly > available!! It takes time to push 30G of data out. Things aren't ready yet. -- Elliot I keep committing atrocities in an attempt to learn from my mistakes. From tillm at optushome.com.au Fri May 14 17:12:20 2004 From: tillm at optushome.com.au (Till) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 03:12:20 +1000 Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> Message-ID: <40A4FDF4.7010601@optushome.com.au> On 14/05/04 10:10 Robert La Ferla Squawked: > Although, I am a developer, as a user, I would really like to see > Mozilla come better configured with the Java, and Flash plug-ins > pre-installed. RealPlayer would be a plus. Or at least somehow make > installation/configuration easier for users. I'm not sure how much > control Fedora developers have over this but it would make Fedora much > more user friendly. I also think that putting at least one DVD player > (like Xine) in the distro would be a good thing. A user should be able > to install Fedora, and pop-in a DVD to watch it. If you want to select > a different DVD player that can be an option. Sound configuration is a > currently nightmare. I'm not sure exactly why but I think it maybe an > OSS vs. ALSA issue. For example, I have a Shuttle with a SPDIF digital > output. I should be able to watch a DVD with Dolby Digital or DTS audio > without having to spend a week tweaking configuration files. I'm not so concerned with flash and java, both are just rubbish as far as I'm concerned, but the simple fact that I can't even watch a simple avi or mpeg file that I legally own or I legally created myself without having to hunt down a dozen obscure files that sometimes don't get along with some Redhat files, is a pain in the arse! I could not recommend Fedora to anyone because of this - sad but true :( It would seem that Redhat/Fedora are not really concerned about such matters. Video is big on the desktop these days guys, get out of your cubby holes and see what people are using their computers for, before you become the complete laughing stock of the 21st century! -- Till From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri May 14 17:22:37 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:22:37 -0400 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <20040514163530.GW25728@leitl.org> References: <40A4F44F.4020302@czexan.net> <20040514163530.GW25728@leitl.org> Message-ID: <1084555350.9636.29.camel@opus> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:35, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:31:11AM -0500, dalen wrote: > > > Perhaps to allow time for files to get to ALL the mirror servers. Maybe > > a torrent file will surface before the 18th:) > > I keep checking http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ obsessively, but it ain't > there yet. b/c the release date is the 18th, not the 14th. today, not being the 18th, means that the files are out yet. if we don't let the mirrors populate they're going to be a lot more people complaining. -sv From fedora at warmcat.com Fri May 14 17:24:08 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:24:08 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: <40A4FDF4.7010601@optushome.com.au> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> <40A4FDF4.7010601@optushome.com.au> Message-ID: <200405141824.08745.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 May 2004 18:12, Till wrote: > Video is big on the desktop these days guys, get > out of your cubby holes and see what people are > using their computers for, before you become the > complete laughing stock of the 21st century! Could this possibly be a slight overstatement? www.freshrpms.net has mplayer and all the necessary dependencies as RPMs. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFApQC4jKeDCxMJCTIRAgfMAJ9/LNLmIAEJmgROHGMtZZUymkA8RgCfQV8x PcPSMZllhXSPiNlkUn2qqeU= =3zyB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri May 14 17:24:15 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:24:15 -0400 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <1084555350.9636.29.camel@opus> References: <40A4F44F.4020302@czexan.net> <20040514163530.GW25728@leitl.org> <1084555350.9636.29.camel@opus> Message-ID: <1084555455.9636.31.camel@opus> > today, not being the 18th, means that the files are out yet. ^ not -sv From dalen at czexan.net Fri May 14 17:24:41 2004 From: dalen at czexan.net (dalen) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:24:41 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: <200405140748.42261.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> <200405140748.42261.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <40A500D9.3010303@czexan.net> Andy Green wrote: >Maybe preinstalled isn't the problem... I know that some of the external repos >have packaged more of these things, maybe what would essentially scratch >Robert's itch is a single script that can be run after install which >autofetches the various license/patent problem packages (direct from >Sun/Realplayer, for example, thus not treading on toes) and installs them. >(And does stuff like disable Noatun and Kaboodle... and artsd... sets up >~/.mplayer/config... sets up Konq MIME stuff for MP3/MPG/AVI etc...) > >Did anyone make such a thing yet? > > > K12LTSP (based on Fedora) has scripts to get some commercial stuff (I don't remember which stuff). You could probably script multimedia stuff from livna. From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 17:30:08 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:30:08 -0600 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <40A4F5D7.3090602@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000b01c439d9$1a730ad0$0200000a@frank> Now that's progress. I can't remember ever seeing in release notes for any RedHat release a disclaimer re: five different models of a mobo that just happens to be the hottest mobo on the market. Well now I have. :( RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Tool Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:38 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? raxet wrote: > USB 2.0 has nothing to do with it. Since every install on any system I've > used P4P800SE or not had no issues with USB 2. However to placate the > masses, I turned off USB 2.0, found an archaic relic of the past, a 5 pin > din connector keyboard (M'Soft) and that STILL didn't change the fail of > FC2 T3 on this mobo. > > NEXT? > > RaXeT > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Guy Fraser > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:05 AM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? > > raxet wrote: > > >>It's very well documented in the bug. But for those who can't read my post: >> >>It hangs just after initrd.gz expands, or rather it simply reboots the >>system. I have installed each iteration of FC1 and FC2 other than the >>infamous FC2 T3 and they all install or upgrade without a hitch. I have >>Tested and retested the ISO's via mediacheck and MD5SUM and there is >>Absolutely nothing wrong with the cd's. >> >>Either way when I brought this problem up earlier in a post to >>fedora-test-list, Alan said to turn off acpi and such. Well I've tried that >>to and it >>Still won't install. >> >>Also when attempting to access the bug I did post the server refuses my >>access to 123067. >> >>Annoyed, >> >>RaXeT >> >> > > ...snip... > > I had FC2-Test3 stall or hang, when I had a USB 2.0 drive attached. I > unplugged the drive and the install went as planned. > > Did the original poster have a USB drive attached? > > > The FC2 Release Notes say the following: Installation-Related Issues * Attempts to install Fedora Core 2 on ASUSR motherboards in the P4P800 series may not proceed past the "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." message, making installation impossible. No workaround is available at this time. For more information, monitor bug 121819: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121819 * Gerry Tool -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 17:32:05 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:32:05 -0600 Subject: ASUS mobo issues [was: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18??] In-Reply-To: <1084553236.7977.50.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <000c01c439d9$600037d0$0200000a@frank> I'd rather not go that length to get FC2 release on any box. Heh RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Leonard den Ottolander Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:47 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: ASUS mobo issues [was: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18??] Hi, > Attempts to install Fedora Core 2 on ASUSR motherboards in the > P4P800 series may not proceed past the "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, > booting the kernel." message, making installation impossible. No > workaround is available at this time. For more information, monitor bug > 121819: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121819 A possibility is to install FC2 on another machine, boot the ASUS box with an FC1 rescue CD, export the file system on which to install and mount on the source box. Then use an rpm --aid --root installation. (rpm now requires you to *first* install the rpmdb to the target, or --aid will not work). Install a boot loader and see if it boots. Possibly not :( . Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mattdm at mattdm.org Fri May 14 17:35:31 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:35:31 -0400 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <000b01c439d9$1a730ad0$0200000a@frank> References: <40A4F5D7.3090602@earthlink.net> <000b01c439d9$1a730ad0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <20040514173531.GA27808@jadzia.bu.edu> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:30:08AM -0600, raxet wrote: > Now that's progress. > I can't remember ever seeing in release notes for any RedHat release a > disclaimer re: five different models of a mobo that just happens to be the > hottest mobo on the market. > Well now I have. :( Well, are you doing anything about it? What's Red Hat / Fedora _supposed_ to do? Delay the release? They could, but how would that help anyone? -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From cfzeitler at yahoo.com Fri May 14 17:40:05 2004 From: cfzeitler at yahoo.com (charles f. zeitler) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: Re: xcdroast & resolution conflict Message-ID: <20040514174005.29819.qmail@web80411.mail.yahoo.com> > On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 10:34:36AM -0700, charles f. > zeitler wrote: > > xcdroast says it needs 800x600, > > therefor it won't open, > > but my xorg.conf & XF86Config > > both indicate i _have_ 800x600. > i uncommented the vert and horiz refresh rates in xorg.conf- fixed it. cfzeitler ===== : Do What Thou Wilt : : Shall Be : : The Whole of The Law : From whb at ceimaine.org Fri May 14 17:42:12 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:42:12 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: <40A4FDF4.7010601@optushome.com.au> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> <40A4FDF4.7010601@optushome.com.au> Message-ID: <1084556532.29135.51.camel@d1ntpm41> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 13:12, Till wrote: > arse! I could not recommend Fedora to anyone > because of this - sad but true :( > It would seem that Redhat/Fedora are not really > concerned about such matters. > > Video is big on the desktop these days guys, get > out of your cubby holes and see what people are > using their computers for, before you become the > complete laughing stock of the 21st century! > > -- > Till > It is frustrating, but I applaud Redhat for sticking with free software. That way, I can have a free desktop. If you want to put pressure on a corporation, put the pressure on Macromedia, Sun, and the people who control CSS for DVDs. Will From jsamort at shaw.ca Fri May 14 17:38:12 2004 From: jsamort at shaw.ca (J. Scott Amort) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:38:12 -0700 Subject: reboot is shutting down hard drives In-Reply-To: <200405140905.41320.czar@czarc.net> References: <200405140905.41320.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1084556291.2565.4.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> On Fri, 2004-14-05 at 09:05 -0400, Gene C. wrote: > Can you provide the bugzilla report number? http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122966 From Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com Fri May 14 17:52:13 2004 From: Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:52:13 -0700 Subject: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore Message-ID: <40A5074D.8060108@affymetrix.com> That seems to do it for me. Thanks. Hugh > > Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > * /From/: Phil Schaffner

> * /To/: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > * /Subject/: Re: Up2date doesn't seem to work anymore > * /Date/: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:53:39 -0400 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 19:11 -0700, Hugh Caley wrote: >> Here are my sources: >> >> ##yum fedora-core-2 http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-2 >> ##uum-mirror fedora-core-2 -released-fc2 >> http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-2 >> ##yum-mirror fedora-core-2 >> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 >> ##yum-mirror updates-released-fc2 >> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 >> #yum updates-testing >> http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever >> yum updates-testing >> ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development >> #yum updates-testing >> ftp://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development >> #yum updates-testing >> ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development >> #yum-mirror updates-testing >> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-testing >> >> Hugh > >Well, don't usually use up2date, but can replicate your error; however, >changing the single active line to: > >yum updates-testing ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development/$ARCH > >to match my (working) /etc/yum.conf works-for-me. Lots of repos are >changing to get ready for FC2 so expect to keep having to debug config >files. > >Phil > > > > > -- Hugh Caley | Unix Systems Administrator | CIS AFFYMETRIX, INC. | 6550 Vallejo St. Ste 100 | Emeryville, CA 94608 Tel: 510-428-8537 | Hugh_Caley at affymetrix.com From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 17:55:29 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:55:29 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: <200405141824.08745.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> <40A4FDF4.7010601@optushome.com.au> <200405141824.08745.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1084557328.1881.339.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 13:24, Andy Green wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 14 May 2004 18:12, Till wrote: > > > Video is big on the desktop these days guys, get > > out of your cubby holes and see what people are > > using their computers for, before you become the > > complete laughing stock of the 21st century! > > Could this possibly be a slight overstatement? www.freshrpms.net has mplayer > and all the necessary dependencies as RPMs. Agree about the overstatement; however, Matthias doesn't yet seem to have FC2 packages. Livna has FC3T3 rpms, but of course neither is strictly legal in the US. The problem is the same for all OSS distros. Phil From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Fri May 14 17:55:49 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:55:49 +0200 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <000b01c439d9$1a730ad0$0200000a@frank> References: <000b01c439d9$1a730ad0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <1084557349.7977.58.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Raxet, > Now that's progress. > > I can't remember ever seeing in release notes for any RedHat release a > disclaimer re: five different models of a mobo that just happens to be the > hottest mobo on the market. > > Well now I have. :( Well, I remember installing RHL 7.2 on a then rather new Asus motherboard (ok I could install) and having some issues with getting the on board IDE working together with an external Promise controller. Things got fixed in RawHide pretty soon after the release. Hey, these things happen, developers have to catch up with new hardware occasionally. So now please stop whining. You are really stretching it. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From darren at dzr-web.com Fri May 14 17:59:51 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:59:51 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Re: xcdroast & resolution conflict In-Reply-To: <20040514174005.29819.qmail@web80411.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040514174005.29819.qmail@web80411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084557591.4866.26.camel@excession.dzr> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 18:40, charles f. zeitler wrote: > > On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 10:34:36AM -0700, charles f. > > zeitler wrote: > > > xcdroast says it needs 800x600, > > > therefor it won't open, > > > but my xorg.conf & XF86Config > > > both indicate i _have_ 800x600. > > > i uncommented the vert and horiz refresh rates > in xorg.conf- fixed it. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know why xcdroast requires a certain screen resolution to run? It struck me as very odd when I first came across it at the beginning of this thread ... Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 18:05:47 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:05:47 -0400 Subject: Anyone compiled a Netspeed Gnome Applet RPM for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084557947.1881.346.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 11:30, Tony Perrie wrote: > I thought SELinux was disabled by default? Guess we're trying for the longest-hijacked-thread record here - naaah, not by a long shot. ;^) On a fresh install, it should be. On an upgrade, the old setting are (should be) preserved. And perhaps some want it enabled despite the warts... From maxer1 at xmission.com Fri May 14 18:19:17 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:19:17 -0600 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <20040514173531.GA27808@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <000001c439df$f7f056f0$0200000a@frank> I'm not saying delay, I'm just a little weirded out having help test every release of FC and now have to wait for FC2 release to be updated by rawhide. I appreciate all that has gone into this project. I'm not particularly thrilled about waiting. It's a natural reaction. I haven't flamed anyone. RaXeT -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Miller Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:36 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:30:08AM -0600, raxet wrote: > Now that's progress. > I can't remember ever seeing in release notes for any RedHat release a > disclaimer re: five different models of a mobo that just happens to be the > hottest mobo on the market. > Well now I have. :( Well, are you doing anything about it? What's Red Hat / Fedora _supposed_ to do? Delay the release? They could, but how would that help anyone? -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 18:19:43 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:19:43 -0400 Subject: Bugzilla problems [was Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18??] In-Reply-To: <1084543547.1881.272.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1084543547.1881.272.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1084558782.1881.351.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 10:05, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 09:41, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > Phil Schaffner wrote: > > > > >This prompted me to attempt to access > > >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi which gives: > > > > > >#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-# > > >Software error: > > > > > >data/versioncache did not return a true value at globals.pl line 692. > > > > > >For help, please send mail to the webmaster (bugzilla-owner at redhat.com), > > >giving this error message and the time and date of the error. > > > > > >#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-# Replying to my own post (-: at least not hijacking it :-) Bugzilla has healed itself. Phil From davej at redhat.com Fri May 14 18:29:52 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:29:52 +0100 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <000001c439cd$36e7db20$0200000a@frank> References: <000001c439cd$36e7db20$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <1084559392.30907.12.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 17:05, raxet wrote: > It's more a less a matter of kernel version. In the case of FC2 release, > firewire will not be a hot item (sorry for the pun). You see somewhere back > in kernel 2.6.4 or 2.6.3 something broke and therefore while you > Can make custom kernels and make Firewire work, RH (in their infinite > Wisdom) has decided to frost Firewire in release of FC2. > > It's really a simple move. However I feel it was a WRONG move. :) So maybe you'd prefer it if we'd shipped FC2 with it enabled so you could whine along the lines of.. "I can't even install FC2, it boots up, finds the firewire controller and kernel panics, because RH (in their infinite wisdom) left it enabled whilst it was broken." There's no conspiracy here, firewire users are a minority , and until the code is fixed so that it doesn't break for users that don't even have any firewire devices, it won't get enabled. Too late for FC2, but today it seems someone has actually found the reason for this problem, and a fix got committed to CVS earlier this afternoon. This may mean that in an update kernel, we can reenable firewire. Dave From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Fri May 14 18:44:41 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:44:41 -0500 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <1084555350.9636.29.camel@opus> References: <40A4F44F.4020302@czexan.net> <20040514163530.GW25728@leitl.org> <1084555350.9636.29.camel@opus> Message-ID: <40A51399.7040300@sbcglobal.net> seth vidal wrote: >On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:35, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > >>On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:31:11AM -0500, dalen wrote: >> >> >> >>>Perhaps to allow time for files to get to ALL the mirror servers. Maybe >>>a torrent file will surface before the 18th:) >>> >>> >>I keep checking http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ obsessively, but it ain't >>there yet. >> >> > >b/c the release date is the 18th, not the 14th. > >today, not being the 18th, means that the files are out yet. > >if we don't let the mirrors populate they're going to be a lot more >people complaining. > >-sv > > > > > Okay guy's , Just relax, Get a six pack in your cooler and just relax, you only got about 4 days to go. Jim From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 18:54:45 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:54:45 -0400 Subject: When can we see the inclusion of Video Players for RedhatFedora? In-Reply-To: <40A4EB4D.6000001@incentre.net> References: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> <20040513072641.GA26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A3F38C.8100C8F8@gmx.de> <20040513222846.GA30480@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A4EB4D.6000001@incentre.net> Message-ID: <1084560885.1881.385.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 11:52, Guy Fraser wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > >On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 12:15:40AM +0200, Martin Stricker wrote: > > > > > >>So what about moving to a place with more reasonable laws? This is > >>becomming annoying - many other distros have video players on board. > >> > >> > >I would expect that to change. SuSE is now Novell owned so the moment > >Novells legal team finish a patent audit there is bound to be fallout. > > > >If you want truely free video then help finish Theora. Hadn't seen that. Interesting, but seems to be low on momentum. > > > > > Legal Smegol. ;-) > > Does any one remember the days, when RH used to provide a disk with > "Commercial and Demo Applications". When you installed the app, there > was a notice informing you that you had to get a license. Yes. There are two different concerns here. One is with freely available (or commercial demo-ware) non-OSS apps that Red Hat could include if they decided to work it out with the owners, and could philosophically justify it in the corporate culture (or more cynically see a way to make a buck?). The stickier issues are with fully OSS that is either illegal or seriously questionable in the US or other markets due to copyright/patent restrictions. Thus livna, freshrpms, ... > Why don't we switch from yum to apt, install synaptic and then have > a configuration option or preference option that allows people to > access "commercial or unsupported applications" and it enables non > RH repositories with these other apps. What's apt/yum got to do with the issues at hand? You can configure any repository you want with either tool, although some repositories support only one or the other, while many support both. > Synaptic is a great package manager, and it not only allows you to > update applications you have installed, but it also allows you to > install any application from the configured repositories. Do kinda miss synaptic, but it can be resurrected easily if FC2 add-on and mirror repositories are apt-enabled. > As long as RH does not have any of the apps at issue on their site > and do not allow access to such software by default, I can't see > how making it easier for people to get the said software could be > a problem for RH. Maybe someone with legal knowledge could comment. Can't claim any legal expertise, but people have been legally hassled for even providing links to DeCSS sources, although you certainly would be hard-pressed to guess that after a Google on the term. The safe road for Red Hat is to provide a solid software base (with plenty of nice fully-OSS and legally unencumbered goodies included to play with) and let users/customers add what they please/dare to run on it. Seems like a reasonable approach. From darren at dzr-web.com Fri May 14 18:51:39 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:51:39 +0100 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084559392.30907.12.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <000001c439cd$36e7db20$0200000a@frank> <1084559392.30907.12.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <1084560698.4866.33.camel@excession.dzr> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 19:29, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 17:05, raxet wrote: > > It's more a less a matter of kernel version. In the case of FC2 release, > > firewire will not be a hot item (sorry for the pun). You see somewhere back > > in kernel 2.6.4 or 2.6.3 something broke and therefore while you > > Can make custom kernels and make Firewire work, RH (in their infinite > > Wisdom) has decided to frost Firewire in release of FC2. > > > > It's really a simple move. However I feel it was a WRONG move. :) > > So maybe you'd prefer it if we'd shipped FC2 with it enabled so you > could whine along the lines of.. > > "I can't even install FC2, it boots up, finds the firewire controller > and kernel panics, because RH (in their infinite wisdom) left it enabled > whilst it was broken." > > There's no conspiracy here, firewire users are a minority , and until > the code is fixed so that it doesn't break for users that don't even > have any firewire devices, it won't get enabled. > > Too late for FC2, but today it seems someone has actually found the > reason for this problem, and a fix got committed to CVS earlier this > afternoon. This may mean that in an update kernel, we can reenable > firewire. That's encouraging to hear. I am not one of the ones who think you made a wrong call with this -- if it's genuinely broken then it should have been temporarily disabled. However, I am also one of the ones who *needs* it working -- no, I'm not just using it for my digital video camera, I don't even have one! But as my workstation has neither SCSI or USB 2 but does have FireWire I have a number of external drives/burners that I need to be able to use. Which means I will have to hold off from FC2 until FireWire is working again. Given that, what will be the best channel/list to track for if/when FireWire gets re-enabled? I hope there will be some kind of announcement somewhere if an errata kernel is released with FireWire enabled by default. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From Greg.King at lmit.com Fri May 14 19:10:00 2004 From: Greg.King at lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:10:00 -0500 Subject: ide/scsi and cdrecord Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF8E@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> I am having a problem using cdrecord to work with my ide cdrw. There has been plenty of google-able material like appending hdc=ide-scsi in grub.conf. So far I have had no luck running cdrecord and while I am looking I was hoping someone here may have the answer. # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a27-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J??rg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to . Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. scsidev: 'ATA' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (schily - Red Hat-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.80-RH '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c1.80 04/03/08 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'SONY ' 'CD-RW CRX216E ' 'PD01' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) * 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * So I would think issuing this would work but it obviously does not (tried as root) # cdrecord -v dev=1,0,0 speed=12 fc2-disc1.iso cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a27-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J??rg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to . Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '1,0,0' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. thanks, Greg From alan at clueserver.org Fri May 14 19:08:27 2004 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ide/scsi and cdrecord In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF8E@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 May 2004, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > I am having a problem using cdrecord to work with my ide cdrw. There has > been plenty of google-able material like appending hdc=ide-scsi in > grub.conf. ide-scsi is pretty broken at this point. Try removing ide-scsi and using: cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdc speed=12 fc2-disc1.iso (Assuming your cd-rom drive is on /dev/hdc.) BTW, k3b is a highly recommended front-end for cd and dvd burning. It handles this stuff automatically. > > So far I have had no luck running cdrecord and while I am looking I was > hoping someone here may have the answer. > > # cdrecord -scanbus > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a27-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J??rg > Schilling > Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support > Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. > Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to > . > Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this > version. > scsidev: 'ATA' > devname: 'ATA' > scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 > Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. > Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (schily - > Red Hat-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.80-RH '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c1.80 04/03/08 Copyright > 1997 J. Schilling'). > scsibus1: > 1,0,0 100) 'SONY ' 'CD-RW CRX216E ' 'PD01' Removable CD-ROM > 1,1,0 101) * > 1,2,0 102) * > 1,3,0 103) * > 1,4,0 104) * > 1,5,0 105) * > 1,6,0 106) * > 1,7,0 107) * > > > So I would think issuing this would work but it obviously does not (tried as > root) > > # cdrecord -v dev=1,0,0 speed=12 fc2-disc1.iso > cdrecord: No write mode specified. > cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. > cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent > defaults. > cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a27-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J??rg > Schilling > Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support > Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. > Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to > . > Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this > version. > TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM > scsidev: '1,0,0' > scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 > cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open > SCSI driver. > cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are > root. > cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. > > thanks, > Greg > > > > From Greg.King at lmit.com Fri May 14 19:22:12 2004 From: Greg.King at lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:22:12 -0500 Subject: ide/scsi and cdrecord Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF8F@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> That worked! FYI I run a core load on this system with just enough added (and others removed) to rebuild images and burn to CD. Alot easier to handle patch management when theres only what you want on it to patch :) -greg /////////// ide-scsi is pretty broken at this point. Try removing ide-scsi and using: cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdc speed=12 fc2-disc1.iso (Assuming your cd-rom drive is on /dev/hdc.) BTW, k3b is a highly recommended front-end for cd and dvd burning. It handles this stuff automatically. From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 19:25:14 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:25:14 -0400 Subject: ide/scsi and cdrecord In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF8E@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF8E@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> Message-ID: <1084562714.1881.389.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 15:10, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > I am having a problem using cdrecord to work with my ide cdrw. There has > been plenty of google-able material like appending hdc=ide-scsi in > grub.conf. > > So far I have had no luck running cdrecord and while I am looking I was > hoping someone here may have the answer. Perhaps... http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01217.html The archive knows all (some). Search and you shall (may) discover. From jdecarlo at mitre.org Fri May 14 19:26:35 2004 From: jdecarlo at mitre.org (John DeCarlo) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:26:35 -0400 Subject: Yum and Going from Test 3 to official release of Core 2 Message-ID: <40A51D6B.1060806@mitre.org> I suppose I know the answer already, but it was a bit disconcerting. After doing a 'yum update' earlier this week, I found I couldn't do that any more. Why? Because my $releasever had been updated to have a value of 2. And when I hard coded 1.92 in yum.conf, many of the repositories had disappeared. So I figure I can't do any updates until the official Core 2 release next week. Makes sense, but it would be nice to have some way of being notified that the yum $releasever has changed. Thanks. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own From davej at redhat.com Fri May 14 19:31:22 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 20:31:22 +0100 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084560698.4866.33.camel@excession.dzr> References: <000001c439cd$36e7db20$0200000a@frank> <1084559392.30907.12.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <1084560698.4866.33.camel@excession.dzr> Message-ID: <1084563082.5342.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 19:51, D. D. Brierton wrote: > Given that, what will be the best channel/list to track for if/when > FireWire gets re-enabled? I hope there will be some kind of announcement > somewhere if an errata kernel is released with FireWire enabled by > default. There's an fedora-announce list where errata notifications get sent (These usually also get picked up quickly and reposted on places like http://www.lwn.net and the like too). Dave From Greg.King at lmit.com Fri May 14 19:32:43 2004 From: Greg.King at lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:32:43 -0500 Subject: ide/scsi and cdrecord Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF90@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> I did use the search mechanism to search all the fedora test archives but never found what i was looking for. for example http://www.redhat.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=cdrecord&ps=20&o=0&m=all&wm=wrd&w f=222210&ul=%2Farchives%2Ffedora-test-list Archives are great if you know the keywords to get to the material :) -Greg -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Phil Schaffner Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:25 PM To: 'fedora-test-list at redhat.com' Subject: Re: ide/scsi and cdrecord On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 15:10, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > I am having a problem using cdrecord to work with my ide cdrw. There has > been plenty of google-able material like appending hdc=ide-scsi in > grub.conf. > > So far I have had no luck running cdrecord and while I am looking I was > hoping someone here may have the answer. Perhaps... http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01217.html The archive knows all (some). Search and you shall (may) discover. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Fri May 14 19:35:17 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:35:17 +0200 Subject: Bugzilla problems [was Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18??] In-Reply-To: <1084558782.1881.351.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1084543547.1881.272.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084558782.1881.351.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1084563317.7977.164.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Phil, > Bugzilla has healed itself. I seriously doubt that :-) . Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From tony at involution.com Fri May 14 19:44:07 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:44:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: SELinux Disabled? (was netspeed blah blah blah) In-Reply-To: <1084557947.1881.346.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: This was a fresh install from the DVD iso with no upgrades. I'm getting reams of messages from SELinux when I use rpm and rpmbuild. Tony On Fri, 14 May 2004, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 11:30, Tony Perrie wrote: > > I thought SELinux was disabled by default? > > Guess we're trying for the longest-hijacked-thread record here - naaah, > not by a long shot. ;^) > > On a fresh install, it should be. On an upgrade, the old setting are > (should be) preserved. And perhaps some want it enabled despite the > warts... > > > > -- From ron.flory at adtran.com Fri May 14 19:54:32 2004 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (Ron Flory) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:54:32 -0500 Subject: Choice of colors on FC2T3 text installer In-Reply-To: <40A4FDF4.7010601@optushome.com.au> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> <40A4FDF4.7010601@optushome.com.au> Message-ID: <40A523F8.9080306@adtran.com> hi- Sometimes one must resort to the text installer, no problem. However the choice of colors (bright red on bright blue) is REALLY hard to read, particularly in 'input dialogs'. I don't remember RH text installs being quite as rough on the 'ol eyes. ron From davej at redhat.com Fri May 14 18:37:10 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:37:10 +0100 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 16:42, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > Raxet, > > That's too bad. SuSE gets this right The current SuSE kernel has just under 1,000 patches (no exaggeration). This is a path we're absolutely not taking with Fedora. What happens when you want to run mainline 2.6.6 on a SuSE 9.1 installation? Answer: It'll explode the same way that it does in Fedora. Red Hat has taken a beating in the past for heavily patched kernels "I installed mainline, and everything broke, Red Hat are trying to lock us into using their kernel, blah blah". One of the goals of Fedora is to stick with mainline as closely as possible. This means getting Firewire fixed *there* instead of carrying around patches in a vendor tree. > , out of the box plus their kernel is > built with multi lun option turned on so most usb multi-card readers work > without having to recompile the kernel. How nice for them. Too bad this breaks when confronted with some SCSI devices. Also, you can fix this without recompiling the kernel.. (19:33:50:davej at delerium:davej)$ modinfo scsi_mod | grep luns parm: max_luns:last scsi LUN (should be between 1 and 2^32-1) parm: max_report_luns:REPORT LUNS maximum number of LUNS received (should be between 1 and 16384) If you find a device that does need max_luns fiddled with to work, let us know, and we'll get that back to the upstream maintainers. Then when you either a) use an upstream kernel or b) an updated rebased fedora kernel, it'll work in both cases. > RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously as it has always been a > struggle to get it working, and that's a shame as it is great technology. Sadly the code isn't as great. Dave From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 20:23:20 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:23:20 -0400 Subject: Bugzilla problems [was Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18??] In-Reply-To: <1084563317.7977.164.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <1084543547.1881.272.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084558782.1881.351.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084563317.7977.164.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084566200.1881.408.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 15:35, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > Hi Phil, > > > Bugzilla has healed itself. > > I seriously doubt that :-) . Well - I expect there was some tearing-out-of-hair and gnashing-of-teeth going on in North Carolina during the healing process, but if we count the caretakers as part of the beast... OK, so Red Hat fixed the problem. :-b From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri May 14 20:34:55 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:34:55 -0400 Subject: Yum and Going from Test 3 to official release of Core 2 In-Reply-To: <40A51D6B.1060806@mitre.org> References: <40A51D6B.1060806@mitre.org> Message-ID: <1084566895.19281.2.camel@binkley> > Makes sense, but it would be nice to have some way of being notified > that the yum $releasever has changed. > it did. look in the /var/log/yum.log it would have said updated fedora-release :) -sv From czar at czarc.net Fri May 14 20:34:42 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:34:42 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <200405141634.42021.czar@czarc.net> On Friday 14 May 2004 14:37, Dave Jones wrote: > One of the goals of Fedora is to stick with mainline as closely as > possible. This means getting Firewire fixed *there* instead of carrying > around patches in a vendor tree. OK, I have another kernel problem which I have reported to both the Red Hat bugzilla and the kernel bugzilla ... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122687 and http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2670 The problem is that I have getting extremely poor performance on a SATA drive with the 2.6 kernel (a bit over 3 MB/sec) as compared to the 2.4 kernel (approximately 55 MB/sec). I am not a kernel hacker so I am not attempting to look at the kernel code myself. I also do not expect Red Hat folks to work on this directly ... the firewire support is certainly more important for more users. So, who do I gripe to to about this? I do not look forward to posting the problem to the kernel mailing list since I would then need to monitor that mailing list and, while signal to noise on the list is very good, the volume is a killer. Suggestions welcome. -- Gene From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 20:38:22 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:38:22 -0400 Subject: SELinux Disabled? (was netspeed blah blah blah) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084567102.1881.425.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 15:44, Tony Perrie wrote: > This was a fresh install from the DVD iso with no upgrades. I'm getting > reams of messages from SELinux when I use rpm and rpmbuild. > > Tony > > On Fri, 14 May 2004, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 11:30, Tony Perrie wrote: > > > I thought SELinux was disabled by default? > > > > Guess we're trying for the longest-hijacked-thread record here - naaah, > > not by a long shot. ;^) Oh well, so much for going for the record! ;^) > > > > On a fresh install, it should be. On an upgrade, the old setting are > > (should be) preserved. And perhaps some want it enabled despite the > > warts... The problem may be "with no upgrades". Is this FC2T3 DVD install? IIRC, the selinux noise died down with more recent kernels. Not happening for me on kernel-2.6.5-1.358, updates through today's rawhide over a fresh FC2T3 install, with SELINUX=disabled in /etc/sysconfig/selinux. Phil From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 20:45:55 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:45:55 -0400 Subject: Yum and Going from Test 3 to official release of Core 2 In-Reply-To: <1084566895.19281.2.camel@binkley> References: <40A51D6B.1060806@mitre.org> <1084566895.19281.2.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1084567555.1881.430.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 16:34, seth vidal wrote: > > Makes sense, but it would be nice to have some way of being notified > > that the yum $releasever has changed. > > > > it did. > > look in the /var/log/yum.log > > it would have said updated fedora-release > > :) Then there's the answer I resisted giving earlier: fedora-test-list at redhat.com :-) From shahms at shahms.com Fri May 14 20:50:25 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:50:25 -0700 Subject: Slow SATA performance (was: Working Firewire in FC2?) In-Reply-To: <200405141634.42021.czar@czarc.net> References: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <200405141634.42021.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1084567824.3400.315.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> >From the hdparm output in the bugs, one thing you might try is changing the DMA mode on the SATA drive to the highest support UDMA mode (udma2) and see if that helps at all. -- Shahms King From greg at gulik.org Fri May 14 21:01:56 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:01:56 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core 2 feedback (user perspective) In-Reply-To: <1084556532.29135.51.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <20040513222904.8F57C741FF@hormel.redhat.com> <40A40E8E.5020108@comcast.net> <40A4FDF4.7010601@optushome.com.au> <1084556532.29135.51.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <40A533C4.2020808@gulik.org> While you're at it put pressure on your politicians to put a stop to the push for DCMA-like laws and software patents. I have a friend who is a patent lawyer and the current state of patent law in the USA is a nightmare. Obviously it means it's good business for her. Will Backman wrote: > It is frustrating, but I applaud Redhat for sticking with free > software. That way, I can have a free desktop. If you want to put > pressure on a corporation, put the pressure on Macromedia, Sun, and the > people who control CSS for DVDs. > > Will > > -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 14 21:04:18 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:04:18 -0400 Subject: Yum and Going from Test 3 to official release of Core 2 In-Reply-To: <40A51D6B.1060806@mitre.org> References: <40A51D6B.1060806@mitre.org> Message-ID: <1084568657.1881.441.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 15:26, John DeCarlo wrote: > I suppose I know the answer already, but it was a bit disconcerting. > > After doing a 'yum update' earlier this week, I found I couldn't do that > any more. Why? Because my $releasever had been updated to have a value > of 2. > > And when I hard coded 1.92 in yum.conf, many of the repositories had > disappeared. > > So I figure I can't do any updates until the official Core 2 release > next week. You can do updates if you figure out where they live. Rawhide update source has not changed - still works with old config file entries, unless a mirror has changed its structure. For extras, fedora.us seems to have changed to 2 already: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/fedora/2/i386/RPMS.stable/ Other sites still use 1.92. Bit of a puzzle, but get yum.conf correct and you can update rawhide and/or extras. Phil From dalen at czexan.net Fri May 14 21:22:23 2004 From: dalen at czexan.net (dalen) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:22:23 -0500 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <40A51399.7040300@sbcglobal.net> References: <40A4F44F.4020302@czexan.net> <20040514163530.GW25728@leitl.org> <1084555350.9636.29.camel@opus> <40A51399.7040300@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40A5388F.5080907@czexan.net> > Okay guy's , Just relax, Get a six pack in your cooler and just relax, > you only > got about 4 days to go. > > Jim Jim, Here is something to send to everyones virtual cooler:) http://www.shiner.com/sendbeer.php Enjoy! From xthor at xthorsworld.com Fri May 14 21:29:30 2004 From: xthor at xthorsworld.com (Ben Brown) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:29:30 -0600 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084570170.18809.14.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> This reminds me of something I got to thinking about last night while messing with my install of FC2test3... and I'm sure I'm wrong, but maybe someone smarter can explain... If we've been running the test releases, and updating our systems via up2date or yum, then don't we pretty much HAVE the official FC2? Like I said, someone smarter then me explain what gets changed in the actual release vs. my method. Please. :) On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 10:08, Michael Cullen wrote: > why is it that the files are on the server, but we cant access them untill > the 18th? why cant we download them now? they are clearly available!! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! > http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ -- ------------- Ben Brown http://www.xthorsworld.com/ From makoto at ki.nu Fri May 14 21:55:08 2004 From: makoto at ki.nu (Makoto Fujiwara) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 06:55:08 +0900 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: <1084482963.1881.191.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084482963.1881.191.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: | From: Phil Schaffner | Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:16:03 -0400 Phil> Sounds like it's worth a Bugzilla report. Thanks, when I tried to file the problem, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Product Fedora Core Component kernel Version test3 Platform i386 Summary install kernel crashes on Panasonic CF-R1(chipset 440) Examples: Bad: Installer crashed Good: Installer hangs when loading aic7xx moudle ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mine sounds like Bad: But the information I have right here is just above. Is this just the way I would do ? OR Is there any way to truck down the location ? Say, try some kernel on Fedore Core1 ? --- Makoto Fujiwara, Chiba, Japan, Narita Airport and Disneyland prefecture. From ling at caltech.edu Fri May 14 21:57:15 2004 From: ling at caltech.edu (Ling Li) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:57:15 -0700 Subject: kernel 2.6.5-1.326 and later break apt-get FC1 packages (under mach) Message-ID: <40A540BB.70602@caltech.edu> Hi, I have a Fedora Core 1 system for building some homemade FC1/RH9 packages, with the help of mach (http://thomas.apestaart.org/projects/mach/). The system is basically FC1+updates but I also regularly update a few packages (listed below) to FC development. Recently I found that with kernel-smp 2.6.5-1.326 or higher, mach could not set up a chroot'ed FC1 system. Specifically, 4 packages, coreutils, dev, pam, and initscripts, cannot be apt-get installed due to preinstall script error. Interestingly mach can still set up a chroot'ed RH9 environment. Everything is OK with kernel-smp 2.6.5-1.322, or lower. My current solution is to use the 322 kernel with FC1. But I am afraid if I upgrade the full system to FC2, mach will still have problems in setting up a FC1 build environment. Thus I cannot build FC1 packages anymore. I would like to know what changes in the kernel might be the real cause? ** Packages I updated to FC development ** apr bind bind-chroot device-mapper httpd initscripts kernel-smp libselinux lvm lvm2 mkinitrd mod_dav_svn mod_ssl rcs subversion swig --Ling From rhally at mindspring.com Fri May 14 22:00:36 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:00:36 -0400 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <1084570170.18809.14.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> References: <1084570170.18809.14.camel@geonosis.teachstream.com> Message-ID: <40A54184.3090809@mindspring.com> Ben Brown wrote: > This reminds me of something I got to thinking about last night while > messing with my install of FC2test3... and I'm sure I'm wrong, but maybe > someone smarter can explain... > > If we've been running the test releases, and updating our systems via > up2date or yum, then don't we pretty much HAVE the official FC2? > > Like I said, someone smarter then me explain what gets changed in the > actual release vs. my method. Please. :) > > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 10:08, Michael Cullen wrote: > >>why is it that the files are on the server, but we cant access them untill >>the 18th? why cant we download them now? they are clearly available!! >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! >>http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ Red Hat does this intentionally so that the installer gets tested. Think about it,,,if everyone could just run up2date or yum and have everything at the latest versions why would would we waste bandwidth to download iso's and run the installer. ;) Richard Hally From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Fri May 14 21:57:32 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:57:32 -0500 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 Message-ID: <40A540CC.2040806@sbcglobal.net> I have just installed Realplayer9 and it does not have a rpnp.so to drag into /mozilla/plugins. Does anyone know what the name of the file you drag into Mozilla/plugins ? Thanks Jim Tate From michael181189 at hotmail.com Fri May 14 22:05:48 2004 From: michael181189 at hotmail.com (Michael Cullen) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:05:48 +0000 Subject: final release Message-ID: why do we have to wait for it to get to all the mirrors? why cant we just download it from whichever mirror has it!!! also, when I tried test 3, it tried to set up the graphics, but sent the monitor into standby mode! _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ From mike at netlyncs.com Fri May 14 23:10:28 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:10:28 -0500 Subject: Anyone compiled and RPM the Netspeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084576228.8866.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 09:26 -0500, Tony Perrie wrote: > Hmmm, has anyone made an rpm for the NetSpeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? > > http://mfcn.ilo.de/netspeed_applet/ Check rawhide, as it is already compiled and ready for your use (I already use it, and it works great). -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From davej at redhat.com Fri May 14 23:17:04 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 00:17:04 +0100 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405141634.42021.czar@czarc.net> References: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <200405141634.42021.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1084576624.17396.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 21:34, Gene C. wrote: > OK, I have another kernel problem which I have reported to both the Red Hat > bugzilla and the kernel bugzilla ... > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122687 and > http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2670 > > The problem is that I have getting extremely poor performance on a SATA drive > with the 2.6 kernel (a bit over 3 MB/sec) as compared to the 2.4 kernel > (approximately 55 MB/sec). > > I am not a kernel hacker so I am not attempting to look at the kernel code > myself. I also do not expect Red Hat folks to work on this directly ... the > firewire support is certainly more important for more users. > > So, who do I gripe to to about this? I do not look forward to posting the > problem to the kernel mailing list since I would then need to monitor that > mailing list and, while signal to noise on the list is very good, the volume > is a killer. the libata maintainer may be a good person to prod. (jgarzik at pobox.com) Dave From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Fri May 14 23:18:36 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:18:36 -0400 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084482963.1881.191.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1084576715.4263.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 06:55 +0900, Makoto Fujiwara wrote: > | From: Phil Schaffner > | Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:16:03 -0400 > > Phil> Sounds like it's worth a Bugzilla report. > Thanks, when I tried to file the problem, > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Product Fedora Core > Component kernel > Version test3 > Platform i386 > Summary install kernel crashes on Panasonic CF-R1(chipset 440) > Examples: > Bad: Installer crashed > Good: Installer hangs when loading aic7xx moudle > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Mine sounds like Bad: Seems OK - The point is to provide enough detail to uniquely identify the bug in the summary. > > But the information I have right here is just above. > Is this just the way I would do ? OR > Is there any way to truck down the location ? > Say, > try some kernel on Fedore Core1 ? Not quite sure what you're getting at here. If you have successfully installed other distros (like Fedora Core 1) on the same hardware, it would be worth mentioning. You should also note that you tried both the FC2T3 installation media and a later development/rawhide boot.iso (specify date) and had the same problem. Phil From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Fri May 14 23:39:09 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:39:09 -0400 Subject: Anyone compiled and RPM the Netspeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: <1084576228.8866.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1084576228.8866.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1084577948.4263.21.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 18:10 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 09:26 -0500, Tony Perrie wrote: > > Hmmm, has anyone made an rpm for the NetSpeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? > > > > http://mfcn.ilo.de/netspeed_applet/ > > Check rawhide, as it is already compiled and ready for your use (I > already use it, and it works great). OK - I give up. Where does it live? Can't find a development package "*netspeed*", nor is it in gnome-applets, nor is there a command netsp* on the path, nor is it found by "yum list available", nor does Google on "netspeed applet fedora rpm" turn it up (other RPMS - but not Fedora). Phil From mike at netlyncs.com Fri May 14 23:43:21 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:43:21 -0500 Subject: Anyone compiled and RPM the Netspeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: <1084577948.4263.21.camel@tabb1.tabb> References: <1084576228.8866.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1084577948.4263.21.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <1084578200.8866.4.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 19:39 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > OK - I give up. Where does it live? Can't find a development package > "*netspeed*", nor is it in gnome-applets, nor is there a command netsp* > on the path, nor is it found by "yum list available", nor does Google on > "netspeed applet fedora rpm" turn it up (other RPMS - but not Fedora). Try gnome-netstatus, at least that is the name used in rawhide. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Fri May 14 23:53:48 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:53:48 -0400 Subject: Anyone compiled and RPM the Netspeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: <1084578200.8866.4.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <1084576228.8866.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1084577948.4263.21.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084578200.8866.4.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1084578827.4263.24.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 18:43 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 19:39 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > > OK - I give up. Where does it live? Can't find a development package > > "*netspeed*", nor is it in gnome-applets, nor is there a command netsp* > > on the path, nor is it found by "yum list available", nor does Google on > > "netspeed applet fedora rpm" turn it up (other RPMS - but not Fedora). > > Try gnome-netstatus, at least that is the name used in rawhide. That one I found. No obvious indication that it's the same applet, but if you say so... ;-} Will give it a spin. Thanks, Phil From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sat May 15 00:21:28 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 20:21:28 -0400 Subject: Anyone compiled and RPM the Netspeed Gnome Applet for FC2T3? In-Reply-To: <1084578827.4263.24.camel@tabb1.tabb> References: <1084576228.8866.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1084577948.4263.21.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084578200.8866.4.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> <1084578827.4263.24.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <1084580487.4263.31.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 19:53 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 18:43 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 19:39 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > > > > OK - I give up. Where does it live? Can't find a development package > > > "*netspeed*", nor is it in gnome-applets, nor is there a command netsp* > > > on the path, nor is it found by "yum list available", nor does Google on > > > "netspeed applet fedora rpm" turn it up (other RPMS - but not Fedora). > > > > Try gnome-netstatus, at least that is the name used in rawhide. > > That one I found. No obvious indication that it's the same applet, but > if you say so... ;-} Will give it a spin. Does not compute: gnome_netspeed author: MFCN-guy alias J?rgen Scheibengruber # cat /usr/share/doc/gnome-netstatus-2.6.0.1/AUTHORS Mark McLoughlin Erwann Chenede Calum Benson Close, but no cigar. Phil From makoto at ki.nu Sat May 15 00:40:02 2004 From: makoto at ki.nu (Makoto Fujiwara) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:40:02 +0900 Subject: Panasonic CF-R2 (Centrino) panics at intaller kernel In-Reply-To: <1084576715.4263.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084482963.1881.191.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084576715.4263.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: Thanks Phil, I have just filed the report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123265 One thing I have not mentioned on the report: The NotePC has no CDROM drive included. I am using attached USB CD/DVD drive. Is this significant ? By the way, I understand the similar machine is available for the iso boot: Panasonic CF-R2, 2004 Feb Model, Centrino version. This model does not have CDROM either. I have boot with both FC2T3 and May 12 verison of development boot.iso. Both panics. I have photo on the panics screen: http://www.ki.nu/~makoto/fc/CF-R2-panics-with-May-12-boot-iso.jpg The very top line is the first line left on the screen. No more lines shown above it. Thanks always, --- Makoto Fujiwara, Chiba, Japan, Narita Airport and Disneyland prefecture. From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sat May 15 00:51:58 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:51:58 -0700 Subject: Nautilus + TIF file = memory insanity In-Reply-To: <33140.66.47.66.178.1084292780.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> References: <33140.66.47.66.178.1084292780.squirrel@mail.trigby.com> Message-ID: <20040515005158.GF32474@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 09:26:20AM -0700, Billy Charlton wrote: > > The images size (not file size) is huge: > > > > mustang:~/downloads> identify sfstreets.tif > > sfstreets.tif TIFF 11248x14484+0+0 PseudoClass 2c 8-bit 209.4kb 1.570u 0:02 > > > > That's like 164 times the area (in square pixels) of my monitor! > > > > I have no idea how to make those programs more efficient. Can you > > make do with a scaled down image? I scaled it down to 20% in the > > gimp and it is very readable at 2250x2897. I guess it depends on your > > application as to whether this is acceptable. There was a discussion about 'risks' associated with exploding files exactly like this. "Decompression bombs" they called them. See ftp.aerasec.de/pub/advisories/decompressionbombs/ In "pictures" you will see giff and png versions of the same problem. Some compression tools are very good on silly data and the resulting decompression bomb effect is astounding. $ bzip2 -v zarro zarro: 685000.000:1, 0.000 bits/byte, 100.00% saved, 100010000 in, 146 out. $ ls -l -rw-rw-r-- 1 mitch mitch 100010000 May 14 17:46 zarro $ ls -l -rw-rw-r-- 1 mitch mitch 146 May 14 17:46 zarro.bz2 Astounding.... 146 bytes --grows to--> 100010000 -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sat May 15 01:16:43 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:16:43 -0700 Subject: Fedora and 4GB of memory In-Reply-To: <1084369917.11064.161.camel@lhwlinux> References: <20040512080208.636AA731D4@hormel.redhat.com> <1084369917.11064.161.camel@lhwlinux> Message-ID: <20040515011643.GG32474@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 07:51:57AM -0600, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > > What does /proc/meminfo tell: ...> > And what does /var/log/dmesg tell us. > > cat /proc/meminfo > > Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs > Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information ..... > & /var/log/dmesg: > > Linux version 2.6.5-1.358smp (bhcompile at bugs.build.redhat.com) (gcc > version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-7)) #1 SMP Sat May 8 > 09:25:36 EDT 2004 > BIOS-provided physical RAM map: > BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable) > BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) > BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 00000000dff74000 (usable) > BIOS-e820: 00000000dff74000 - 00000000dff76000 (ACPI NVS) > BIOS-e820: 00000000dff76000 - 00000000dff97000 (ACPI data) > BIOS-e820: 00000000dff97000 - 00000000e0000000 (reserved) > BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec10000 (reserved) > BIOS-e820: 00000000fecf0000 - 00000000fecf1000 (reserved) > BIOS-e820: 00000000fed20000 - 00000000fed90000 (reserved) > BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee10000 (reserved) > BIOS-e820: 00000000ffb00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) > 0MB HIGHMEM available. > 3583MB LOWMEM available. Sounds like the bios is reporting 3583MB and 4GB was seen. It is not clear what the bios is reserving it for. What if you turn ACPI off in your bios setup? Graphics? -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From mattdm at mattdm.org Sat May 15 01:55:10 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:55:10 -0400 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040515015510.GA9645@jadzia.bu.edu> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 10:05:48PM +0000, Michael Cullen wrote: > why do we have to wait for it to get to all the mirrors? > why cant we just download it from whichever mirror has it!!! Because that would cause chaos. An uncoordinated mirroring system is almost worse than none at all. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From sekula at mit.edu Sat May 15 01:07:11 2004 From: sekula at mit.edu (Stephen Sekula) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:07:11 -0400 Subject: openoffice.org-1.1.1-3 and oopadmin (spadmin) Message-ID: <20040514210711.4fa79f71@papa> Hi Folks, I've been playing around with FC2test3 and noticed that the printer/font administration tool (spadmin or oopadmin) is missing. Is this a feature? If so, how does one now incorporate their own fonts? If it's not a feature, I'd be happy to post it as a bug. However, I wanted to see if there was any guidance from this list before jumping ahead to bugzilla. Regards, Steve From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Sat May 15 02:11:55 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:11:55 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <200405150212.i4F2C5AX032447@mx3.redhat.com> David, Thanks for your response, but unfortunately we are from two different camps. I am a user and a sysadmin, and I believe things should work out of the box, as most end users would. This would include Firewire. If SuSE has to apply over 1000 patches to the kernel, then this says two things: 1. They really care about end users experience and want to make their computing as hassle free as possible. 2. There has got to be something wrong with the way that the kernel is developed if it takes over 1000 patches to get the kernel to a point where the end user can make use of it with common every day hardware i.e. Firewire. This last point is solidified by your comment "Sadly the code isn't as great." Your camp is the developer segment. It is my opinion that most developers believe that EVERYONE should be able to recompile a kernel or ad arguments to the boot up process. This thought process is flawed. Frankly, most end users will NOT go to kernel.org and download the latest kernel and compile it, so if the kernel is patched 1000 times, they won't care. Just so long as the product does what it's supposed to do. Now, to your point, developers may care, but somewhere someone is going to have to find a happy medium, especially since there are a number of aggressive desktop initiatives coming down the pike, even your own company is finally making the move. Either the kernel modules are going to have to be coded better, or patches are going to have to be used. I too would like to see things coded better, but if SuSE has to apply over a 1000 patches to its kernel, I would say that asking for that is going to be an uphill battle. Scott McNealy once said, "It's not about the technology, it's about the solution." If Linux is going to make any inroads in the Desktop arena, then more developers are going to have to make this their credo. Just my two cents, Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Dave Jones [mailto:davej at redhat.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 1:37 PM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 16:42, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > Raxet, > > That's too bad. SuSE gets this right The current SuSE kernel has just under 1,000 patches (no exaggeration). This is a path we're absolutely not taking with Fedora. What happens when you want to run mainline 2.6.6 on a SuSE 9.1 installation? Answer: It'll explode the same way that it does in Fedora. Red Hat has taken a beating in the past for heavily patched kernels "I installed mainline, and everything broke, Red Hat are trying to lock us into using their kernel, blah blah". One of the goals of Fedora is to stick with mainline as closely as possible. This means getting Firewire fixed *there* instead of carrying around patches in a vendor tree. > , out of the box plus their kernel is > built with multi lun option turned on so most usb multi-card readers work > without having to recompile the kernel. How nice for them. Too bad this breaks when confronted with some SCSI devices. Also, you can fix this without recompiling the kernel.. (19:33:50:davej at delerium:davej)$ modinfo scsi_mod | grep luns parm: max_luns:last scsi LUN (should be between 1 and 2^32-1) parm: max_report_luns:REPORT LUNS maximum number of LUNS received (should be between 1 and 16384) If you find a device that does need max_luns fiddled with to work, let us know, and we'll get that back to the upstream maintainers. Then when you either a) use an upstream kernel or b) an updated rebased fedora kernel, it'll work in both cases. > RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously as it has always been a > struggle to get it working, and that's a shame as it is great technology. Sadly the code isn't as great. Dave From gstool at earthlink.net Sat May 15 02:14:37 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:14:37 -0500 Subject: openoffice.org-1.1.1-3 and oopadmin (spadmin) In-Reply-To: <20040514210711.4fa79f71@papa> References: <20040514210711.4fa79f71@papa> Message-ID: <40A57D0D.7020104@earthlink.net> Stephen Sekula wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've been playing around with FC2test3 and noticed that the printer/font administration tool (spadmin or oopadmin) is missing. Is this a feature? If so, how does one now incorporate their own fonts? > > If it's not a feature, I'd be happy to post it as a bug. However, I wanted to see if there was any guidance from this list before jumping ahead to bugzilla. > Read the FC2 Release notes to answer your fonts questions. I find that printing via CUPS just works in OOo and fonts installed according to the procedure in the Release Notes appear in OOo. Gerry Tool From darren at dzr-web.com Sat May 15 01:49:30 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 02:49:30 +0100 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084563082.5342.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <000001c439cd$36e7db20$0200000a@frank> <1084559392.30907.12.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <1084560698.4866.33.camel@excession.dzr> <1084563082.5342.1.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <1084585769.4866.37.camel@excession.dzr> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 20:31, Dave Jones wrote: > There's an fedora-announce list where errata notifications get sent > (These usually also get picked up quickly and reposted on places > like http://www.lwn.net and the like too). Thanks Dave, but can I just make a request that if/when an errata kernel is released with FireWire enabled by default it is marked *very* clearly in the release notes so that it can't be overlooked? It would be a big help... Thanks again. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From darren at dzr-web.com Sat May 15 01:54:15 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 02:54:15 +0100 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <1084586055.4866.41.camel@excession.dzr> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 19:37, Dave Jones wrote: > The current SuSE kernel has just under 1,000 patches (no exaggeration). > This is a path we're absolutely not taking with Fedora. What happens > when you want to run mainline 2.6.6 on a SuSE 9.1 > installation? Answer: It'll explode the same way that it does in Fedora. > > Red Hat has taken a beating in the past for heavily patched kernels > "I installed mainline, and everything broke, Red Hat are trying to > lock us into using their kernel, blah blah". > > One of the goals of Fedora is to stick with mainline as closely as > possible. This means getting Firewire fixed *there* instead of carrying > around patches in a vendor tree. Just a quickie to say that I for one think that this is entirely the right path for Fedora. It wouldn't be for SUSE, or RHL when it still existed, and obviously not for RHEL, but for Fedora I do believe that this is the right policy. Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat May 15 02:30:57 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 04:30:57 +0200 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405150212.i4F2C5AX032447@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200405150212.i4F2C5AX032447@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084588251.26717.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 15/05/2004 ? 04:11, Bruce P. Morin a ?crit : > David, > > Thanks for your response, but unfortunately we are from two different camps. > I am a user and a sysadmin, and I believe things should work out of the box, > as most end users would. This would include Firewire. > > If SuSE has to apply over 1000 patches to the kernel, then this says two > things: If you want a heavy patched kernel from RedHat, check RHEL. btw, where can i download SuSE 9.1 iso ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Sat May 15 02:37:30 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:37:30 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084588251.26717.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405150237.i4F2bjAX003054@mx3.redhat.com> You can't, but you can perform an FTP install of the product in June. But what does that have to with Firewire support? But to play along with you, where can you download a FREE version of RedHat? -----Original Message----- From: Matias Feliciano [mailto:feliciano.matias at free.fr] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:31 PM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? Le sam 15/05/2004 ? 04:11, Bruce P. Morin a ?crit : > David, > > Thanks for your response, but unfortunately we are from two different camps. > I am a user and a sysadmin, and I believe things should work out of the box, > as most end users would. This would include Firewire. > > If SuSE has to apply over 1000 patches to the kernel, then this says two > things: If you want a heavy patched kernel from RedHat, check RHEL. btw, where can i download SuSE 9.1 iso ? From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sat May 15 02:53:43 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:53:43 -0400 Subject: Panasonic CF-R2 (Centrino) panics at intaller kernel In-Reply-To: References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084482963.1881.191.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084576715.4263.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <1084589622.4263.49.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 09:40 +0900, Makoto Fujiwara wrote: > Thanks Phil, I have just filed the report: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123265 > > One thing I have not mentioned on the report: > The NotePC has no CDROM drive included. I am using attached > USB CD/DVD drive. Is this significant ? May very well be - have been lots of USB problems with FC2 test releases. If you can get back to the disk (for instance, with FC1 re-install), it would be interesting to try a boot without the USB CD-ROM as explained here: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg02970.html or: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01638.html (Can also put grub lines from above in grub.conf if you have a working system you are willing to risk clobbering for a test.) Output of lspci under FC1 would also be of interest. > By the way, > I understand the similar machine is available for the iso boot: > Panasonic CF-R2, 2004 Feb Model, Centrino version. > This model does not have CDROM either. > > I have boot with both FC2T3 and May 12 verison of development > boot.iso. Both panics. I have photo on the panics screen: > http://www.ki.nu/~makoto/fc/CF-R2-panics-with-May-12-boot-iso.jpg > The very top line is the first line left on the screen. No more > lines shown above it. Will have to see what Arjan can do with it now that it's flagged in Bugzilla. > > Thanks always, > --- > Makoto Fujiwara, > Chiba, Japan, Narita Airport and Disneyland prefecture. OK, Phil From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sat May 15 03:03:59 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 23:03:59 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405150237.i4F2bjAX003054@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200405150237.i4F2bjAX003054@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084590239.4263.54.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 22:37 -0400, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > ... But to play along with you, > where can you download a FREE version of RedHat? http://whiteboxlinux.org/ http://www.caosity.org/ http://www.taolinux.org/ From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Sat May 15 03:15:33 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 23:15:33 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084590239.4263.54.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <200405150315.i4F3FgAX008277@mx3.redhat.com> Not to beat a dead horse, the question was, "where can you download a FREE version of RedHat?" Note the word REDHAT. The links you provided are derivative works of the RedHat Distribution. You could have thrown Mandrake in there too for that matter. But just because they derive from RedHat doesn't mean they are RedHat. To answer the question, YOU CANT! The only way to get a copy of RedHat anything today is you have to pay for it! So people shouldn't slam SuSE for their ISO policy. At least they offer a comprehensive supportable product at a very decent price. -----Original Message----- From: Phil Schaffner [mailto:P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:04 PM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 22:37 -0400, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > ... But to play along with you, > where can you download a FREE version of RedHat? http://whiteboxlinux.org/ http://www.caosity.org/ http://www.taolinux.org/ From zimhat at foou.net Sat May 15 03:38:45 2004 From: zimhat at foou.net (Law Horne) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:38:45 -0500 Subject: winex Message-ID: <1084592325.2717.1.camel@Basanizo> has anyone attempted to run winex on Fedora C2T3. Thanks Law From jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com Sat May 15 04:29:51 2004 From: jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com (James Bond) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 04:29:51 +0000 Subject: fedora test3 Message-ID: Hi, I am using Fedora test3 . I obseved one issue with Yum configuration file in test3. In test 2 one of the vraible in /etc/yum.conf fiel used to look like the following by default: distroverpkg=fedora-release Now in the test 3, it is set to redhat-release by default as follows: distroverpkg=redhat-release Can anyone let me know why there is a change? Jerry _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE connection, FREE modem and one month's FREE line rental, plus a US or European flight when you sign up for BT Broadband! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com Sat May 15 04:31:02 2004 From: jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com (James Bond) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 04:31:02 +0000 Subject: fedora test3 Message-ID: Hi, I am using Fedora test3 . I am having trouble using yum to update my system. I get the following error when I try to execute the command: yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - i386 - Base retrygrab() failed for: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1.92/i386/os/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1.92/i386/os/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Please help!! jerry _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat May 15 04:41:11 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 06:41:11 +0200 Subject: fedora test3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040515064111.7756a009.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 15 May 2004 04:29:51 +0000, James Bond wrote: > Hi, > I am using Fedora test3 . I obseved one issue with Yum configuration file in > test3. In test 2 one of the vraible in /etc/yum.conf fiel used to look like > the following by default: > distroverpkg=fedora-release > > Now in the test 3, it is set to redhat-release by default as follows: > distroverpkg=redhat-release > > Can anyone let me know why there is a change? Not a bug. The following is the original bug report when it was changed the first time in Fedora Core 0.94. Yes, Fedora Core 1 (!) Test 3: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/106460 It was fixed with a patch that works with both fedora-release and redhat-release packages/files, so the configuration works on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, too. -- Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) - Linux 2.6.5-1.358 From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat May 15 04:43:50 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 06:43:50 +0200 Subject: fedora test3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040515064350.01b08f94.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 15 May 2004 04:31:02 +0000, James Bond wrote: > Hi, > I am using Fedora test3 . I am having trouble using yum to update my system. > I get the following error when I try to execute the command: > > > yum update > > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1.92 - i386 - Base > retrygrab() failed for: > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1.92/i386/os/headers/header.info > Executing failover method > failover: out of servers to try > Error getting file > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1.92/i386/os/headers/header.info > [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > > > Please help!! Can't. Fedora Core 2 Test period has ended. As a work-around, either hardcode the '2' directory in your yum.conf, which means replace the $releasever macro, or update the fedora-release package manually: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/ -- Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) - Linux 2.6.5-1.358 From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat May 15 04:47:40 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OT: stop the excessive whining! In-Reply-To: <20040515043206.EE6937327D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040515044740.65327.qmail@web11406.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- is it just me or has there been an excessive amount of whining on the list lately? i've kept quiet trying to ignore it but enough is enough. if people put the time they spend whining abouut how Fedora inconveniences them etc. into time building packages, fixing bugs, writing code, filing bugzilla reports, etc. then there would be a lot less problems in Fedora. i don't mean to start a flame war but i thought the list was supposed to be fedora-test-list and not fedora-bitch-about-whatever-is-bothering-them-on-this-particular-day-even-if-it- is-only-remotely-related-to-Fedora-bugs-found-during-testing. i admit the MP3, video player, and firewire are slightly incoveniencing but there are well-known work arounds that exist... and i think everyone has beat the issue to death. we all know where redhat stands on this and if people aren't happy, then thanks to the freedom of open-source people can migrate elsewhere. anyways, sorry for wasting everyone's time and bandwidth but after the recent messages i felt the need to speak up. mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat May 15 04:54:07 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040514203510.CD6AD7353A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040515045407.71697.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- > Too late for FC2, but today it seems someone has actually found the > reason for this problem, and a fix got committed to CVS earlier this > afternoon. This may mean that in an update kernel, we can reenable > firewire. do you have the bugzilla number available for this bug? mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat May 15 05:06:29 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040514235404.D990273581@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- jim wrote: >I have just installed Realplayer9 and it does not have a rpnp.so to drag >into /mozilla/plugins. >Does anyone know what the name of the file you drag into Mozilla/plugins ? i believe you need to install the RealPlayer8 rpm and then you add the additional RealPlayer9 codecs add-on. the rpnp.so plugin can be found in the RealPlayer8 rpm. i just recently installed and this was the method i used. perhaps, a complete RealPlay9 package exists but as of very recently, to the best of my knowledge, it didn't. i guess linux (unix) isn't a priority for Real, Inc. maybe someday we linux users won't be treated as second class citizens anymore... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com Sat May 15 05:19:24 2004 From: jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com (James Bond) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 05:19:24 +0000 Subject: fedora test3 Message-ID: Hi, I can't see apt package on Fedor Test3!! I think it was there on Test2. Can anyone let me know has it been removed? If yes, then how can i install it. Jerry _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE connection, FREE modem and one month's FREE line rental, plus a US or European flight when you sign up for BT Broadband! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat May 15 05:44:03 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 07:44:03 +0200 Subject: fedora test3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040515074403.7e75efe6.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 15 May 2004 05:19:24 +0000, James Bond wrote: > Hi, > I can't see apt package on Fedor Test3!! I think it was there on Test2. Can > anyone let me know has it been removed? If yes, then how can i install it. http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/2/i386/RPMS.stable/ This one should work: rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/2/i386/RPMS.stable/apt-0.5.15cnc6-0.fdr.11.1.91.i386.rpm From makoto at ki.nu Sat May 15 06:12:18 2004 From: makoto at ki.nu (Makoto Fujiwara) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:12:18 +0900 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: <1084589622.4263.49.camel@tabb1.tabb> References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084482963.1881.191.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084576715.4263.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084589622.4263.49.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: | From: Phil Schaffner | Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:53:43 -0400 Phil> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg02970.html Phil> or: Phil> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01638.html Phil> (Can also put grub lines from above in grub.conf if you have a working Phil> system you are willing to risk clobbering for a test.) I have copied vmlinuz and initd.img from boot.iso (May 12 version) on my CD-ROM, have /etc/grub.conf lines pointing those two on /, unplug USB CDROM-drive and reboots. It works. Installer screen asking language appears. ( I did not go further from that point yet. Should I to that ? I need CDROM drive only when upgrade I guess.) Phil> Output of lspci under FC1 would also be of interest. It's here: (CDROM unplugged) 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Host Bridge (rev 01) 00:00.1 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97 Audio Controller 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Motion, Inc. SM720 Lynx3DM (rev c1) 00:03.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 88) 00:03.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0575 00:04.0 Communication controller: Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 8339 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX ISA Bridge (rev 01) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82440MX EIDE Controller 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX USB Universal Host Controller 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Power Management Controller 00:09.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) Plugging USB CDROM drive makes no change at all for above. I think following line is for Wireless LAN Card: 00:03.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0575 Following is SD memory slot, probably 00:04.0 Communication controller: Matsushita Electric... Unknown device 8339 --- Makoto Fujiwara, Chiba, Japan, Narita Airport and Disneyland prefecture. From cdrobsonjr at netscape.net Sat May 15 06:28:01 2004 From: cdrobsonjr at netscape.net (Doug Robson) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 02:28:01 -0400 Subject: help troubleshoot usb printer problem Message-ID: <4E16387C.2DC351ED.0E82DF66@netscape.net> I don't know how to troubleshoot a usb printer problem. It is a hp deskjet 6122. It used to work some time ago when I did my original FC2T1 install. Now I'm up to FC2T2 but I also just did a vanilla kernel 2.6.6 which I am now running under. My motherboard is an Abit NF7-S which uses the nForce2 chipset. The following is the output of dmesg pertaining to usb stuff: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.2 to 64 ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: irq 5, pci mem f88b5000 ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 PCI: cache line size of 64 is not supported by device 0000:00:02.2 ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: USB 2.0 enabled, EHCI 1.00, driver 2003-Dec-29 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 6 ports detected ohci_hcd: 2004 Feb 02 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) ohci_hcd: block sizes: ed 64 td 64 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.0 to 64 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: irq 10, pci mem f88b7000 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 3 ports detected ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (#2) PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.1 to 64 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: irq 11, pci mem f88b9000 ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 3 ports detected parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP,DMA] pnp: Device 00:0e disabled. usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 usb 2-1: device not accepting address 2, error -110 hdc: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW CD-MRW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using address 3 usb 2-1: device not accepting address 3, error -110 usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 4 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x3404 usbcore: registered new driver usblp drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team pnp: Device 00:0e activated. parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP,DMA] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). lp0: console ready The Print Manager says that: Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": No such device If I use the Hardware Browser app and look at USB devices, I get 3 occurrences of nForce USB Controller. The first two say they are using the ohci-hcd driver and the third says it is using the ehci-hcd driver. The output of lspci gives: 0000:00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4) 0000:00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4) 0000:00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4) Beyond that, I don't know what else to look for or what tools or methods may be available for troubleshooting problems like this. Thanks for any help, Doug __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From jbinpg at shaw.ca Sat May 15 06:42:45 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 23:42:45 -0700 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405150315.i4F3FgAX008277@mx3.redhat.com> References: <1084590239.4263.54.camel@tabb1.tabb> <200405150315.i4F3FgAX008277@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040515064245.GA21351@shaw.ca> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:15:33PM -0400, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > Not to beat a dead horse, the question was, "where can you download a FREE > version of RedHat?" Note the word REDHAT. > > The links you provided are derivative works of the RedHat Distribution. You > could have thrown Mandrake in there too for that matter. But just because > they derive from RedHat doesn't mean they are RedHat. > > To answer the question, YOU CANT! The only way to get a copy of RedHat > anything today is you have to pay for it! So people shouldn't slam SuSE for > their ISO policy. At least they offer a comprehensive supportable product at > a very decent price. I'm tired of this. If you love SUSE so much, go give them your dollars. Just stop this nonsense on this list. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From h.mayer at inode.at Sat May 15 07:04:38 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:04:38 +0200 Subject: SOLVED: Booting from Ultra ATA Controller -> Kernel Panic In-Reply-To: <40A4F053.8020705@inode.at> References: <40A4F053.8020705@inode.at> Message-ID: <40A5C106.9010804@inode.at> Hannes Mayer wrote: > Hi all! > > Today I bought an additional IDE controller > (ULTRA ATA - 133 PCI Controller - no other brand visible). > Now my machine looks like the following: > > Motherboard-controller: > Primary HD (windoze) + Secondary HD (data on NTFS) > > New IDE controller: > Fedora HD as master > > My BIOS recognizes the controller > IT8212 ATAPI BIOS V1.4.1.2 > it is scanning the bus, gets the Fedora HD on the controller > and I can boot from the Fedora HD via BIOS boot options. > The GRUB screen comes up, but then: > > mkrootdev: label / not found > mount: error 2 mounting ext3 > pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2 > umount /initrd/proc failed: 2 > Freeing unused kernel memory: 148k freed > Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel Here is the solution :-) I booted the fedora HD as slave of the motherboard controller: # lspci -v [...] 02:0b.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Integrated Technology Express, Inc. IT/ITE8212 Dual channel ATA RAID controller (PCI version seems to be IT8212, embedded seems (rev 11) Subsystem: Integrated Technology Express, Inc.: Unknown device 0001 Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11 I/O ports at a800 I/O ports at ac00 [size=4] I/O ports at b000 [size=8] I/O ports at b400 [size=4] I/O ports at b800 [size=16] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 # joe -w grub.conf title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.356) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.356 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet selinux=0 ide2=0xa800,0xac02 initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.356.img The formula: ide2=A,B+2 where A is the address of the first I/O port and B the address of the second I/O port plus 2. (fedora HD as master on the master IDE port on the controller card) Cheers, Hannes. From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sat May 15 07:28:46 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:28:46 +0800 Subject: When can we see the inclusion of Video Players for RedhatFedora? In-Reply-To: <40A4EB4D.6000001@incentre.net> References: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> <20040513072641.GA26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A3F38C.8100C8F8@gmx.de> <20040513222846.GA30480@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A4EB4D.6000001@incentre.net> Message-ID: <1084606126.3102.12.camel@server1.example.com> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 23:52, Guy Fraser wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > >On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 12:15:40AM +0200, Martin Stricker wrote: > > > > > >>So what about moving to a place with more reasonable laws? This is > >>becomming annoying - many other distros have video players on board. > >> > >> > >I would expect that to change. SuSE is now Novell owned so the moment > >Novells legal team finish a patent audit there is bound to be fallout. > > > >If you want truely free video then help finish Theora. > > > > > Legal Smegol. ;-) > > Does any one remember the days, when RH used to provide a disk with > "Commercial and Demo Applications". When you installed the app, there > was a notice informing you that you had to get a license. > > Why don't we switch from yum to apt, install synaptic and then have > a configuration option or preference option that allows people to > access "commercial or unsupported applications" and it enables non > RH repositories with these other apps. > > Synaptic is a great package manager, and it not only allows you to > update applications you have installed, but it also allows you to > install any application from the configured repositories. > > As long as RH does not have any of the apps at issue on their site > and do not allow access to such software by default, I can't see > how making it easier for people to get the said software could be > a problem for RH. Maybe someone with legal knowledge could comment. IANAL, but... Times have changed. Red Hat could conceivably be held liable for *linking* to patent-encumbered or copyright-infringing works. These legal quagmires have not been probed deeply, and I don't believe Red Hat wants to be a sacrificial guinea pig. Yes, it sucks to be US. FYI, Red Hat Enterprise Linux does still have such a CD (in physical media kits) because the number of copies can theoretically be controlled and the licenses paid for. No those disks don't contain mplayer or xine or mp3 support. More like acroread and IBMJava2-JRE/SDK. I think possibly the old Real Player 8 as well. I haven't looked lately, not terribly exciting stuff. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sat May 15 07:57:23 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:57:23 +0800 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 06:05, Michael Cullen wrote: > why do we have to wait for it to get to all the mirrors? > why cant we just download it from whichever mirror has it!!! > > also, when I tried test 3, it tried to set up the graphics, but sent the > monitor into standby mode! 1) Because the mirrors are "tiered". In other words, there are a few mirrors who get the bits directly from Red Hat, then there are other mirrors who get the bits from those who got the bits from Red Hat. If the first tier mirrors opened public downloads early, then the second group of mirrors would not be able to get the bits as they had to fight for connections. Thus everyone would be complaining that they could not get the bits. 2) Your monitor is getting a signal it can't handle, and is shutting down to protect itself. Try a text mode install. -- Chris Kloiber From dag at wieers.com Sat May 15 07:59:35 2004 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:59:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: GnoTime In-Reply-To: <1084538061.26892.6.camel@yuff.moxyledge.org> References: <1084295770.21296.2.camel@oscar.metro1.com> <1084299418.5087.1.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1084373009.27820.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1084416274.32489.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1084478215.1168.19.camel@biznatch.sfbay.sun.com> <1084538061.26892.6.camel@yuff.moxyledge.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 May 2004, Boris Goldowsky wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 17:23, Zachary Kessin wrote: > > is GnoTime or a similar time tracking application in recent versions of > > Fedora? I can't seem to find an RPM and need a time tracker. > > There's a gnotime rpm at dag.wieers.com, though it is not the most up to > date version, it does work with Fedora. Well, all packages newer than 2.1.7 require gtkhtml3 >= 3.1 and apparently fc2 still has a 3.0 release. -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Sat May 15 08:00:17 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:00:17 +0200 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405150315.i4F3FgAX008277@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200405150315.i4F3FgAX008277@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084608017.4750.33.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Bruce, > The links you provided are derivative works of the RedHat Distribution. You > could have thrown Mandrake in there too for that matter. But just because > they derive from RedHat doesn't mean they are RedHat. I don't know about the others, but afaict WhiteBox can hardly be called a derivative work (maybe in a legal sense, but that is beside the point). It's just a rebuild from srpm, with only a slight amount of patching to get it build. > To answer the question, YOU CANT! If you are speaking of a binary release you are right. But the sources are there on your local mirror for you to grab and rebuild. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From TVarveris at wiley.com Sat May 15 08:06:29 2004 From: TVarveris at wiley.com (TVarveris at wiley.com) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 04:06:29 -0400 Subject: Terri Varveris/P&T/NewYork909/Wiley is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 05/15/2004 and will not return until 05/18/2004. I'll be out of the office on Monday, May 17th, returning on Tuesday, May 18th. I'll get back to you as soon as possible on the 18th. Have a great weekend! Terri From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Sat May 15 08:14:12 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:14:12 +0200 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <1084608851.4750.46.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Dave, > One of the goals of Fedora is to stick with mainline as closely as > possible. This means getting Firewire fixed *there* instead of carrying > around patches in a vendor tree. (Drifting slightly OT.) When can we expect an updated kernel for FC2? I know this sounds a bit premature, but for example there are issues with USB in the current kernel that render the SpeedTouch ADSL modems useless. Duncan Sands provided me with patches (that are already accepted for 2.6.7) that should fix this issue, but if patching is not the approach going to be taken I think it's pointless to post them here. Could it be this issue is already in bugzilla? I could attach those patches there for those who need a quick fix, while we wait for an updated kernel. I haven't yet tested their functionality (should be ok when they are accepted upstream) but they patch cleanly (against 2.6.5-1.351 that is). Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From ml at mutox.org Sat May 15 08:24:31 2004 From: ml at mutox.org (Dan) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 18:24:31 +1000 Subject: Xnest/gdm/xdmcp weirdness Message-ID: <1084609470.21463.11.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> Experiencing some unusual behaviour with Xnest/xdmcp on FC2test3. This install is very recent; its close to what will be the final release. gdm is running with xdmcp enabled. X starts up, i log in, and run this: $ Xnest :1 -indirect localhost Which presents a chooser. The chooser only shows the local machine, and when i try to connect, the local X session dies (I have to log back in). Im using the nv driver on the local display. I know I have done this on earlier betas, and in FC1, without any (or many) problems. Has anyone else seen this? Or can confirm this behaviour? I had a quick look in Xorg.0.log, and saved the output from Xnest, but i see no clues. Cheers, Dan From eugen at leitl.org Sat May 15 08:37:29 2004 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:37:29 +0200 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> Message-ID: <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 03:57:23PM +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > 1) Because the mirrors are "tiered". In other words, there are a few > mirrors who get the bits directly from Red Hat, then there are other > mirrors who get the bits from those who got the bits from Red Hat. If All is good and well for those who use mirrors. > the first tier mirrors opened public downloads early, then the second > group of mirrors would not be able to get the bits as they had to fight > for connections. Thus everyone would be complaining that they could not > get the bits. This isn't applicable for torrents and freecache. There's no point not to open those once you have a master, and an initial seed community. -- Eugen* Leitl leitl ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From vibol at khmer.cc Sat May 15 10:07:04 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 03:07:04 -0700 Subject: Running mainstream kernel 2.6.6-mm2 on FC2? Message-ID: <40A5EBC8.8020809@khmer.cc> How difficult would it be to run 2.6.6-mm2 on FC2? Is there anything I should look out for before diving in? -Vibol From pismobum at hotmail.com Sat May 15 10:19:20 2004 From: pismobum at hotmail.com (pismobum) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 03:19:20 -0700 Subject: winex References: <1084592325.2717.1.camel@Basanizo> Message-ID: Yes. I have tried WineX, Version 3.3.2. on FC2T3 It seemed to not have any problems, and I was able to get it working with minimal tweaking. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Law Horne" To: Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: winex > has anyone attempted to run winex on Fedora C2T3. > > Thanks Law > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From aoliva at redhat.com Sat May 15 11:22:46 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 15 May 2004 08:22:46 -0300 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405141153.i4EBrv0m027339@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200405141153.i4EBrv0m027339@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: On May 14, 2004, "Bruce P. Morin" wrote: > Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important > hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC1-firewire/ http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC2-firewire/ -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Sat May 15 11:31:47 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 15 May 2004 08:31:47 -0300 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040515045407.71697.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040515045407.71697.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On May 15, 2004, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > do you have the bugzilla number available for this bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119262 -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Sat May 15 11:45:00 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 15 May 2004 08:45:00 -0300 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <000001c439df$f7f056f0$0200000a@frank> References: <000001c439df$f7f056f0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: On May 14, 2004, "raxet" wrote: > I'm not saying delay, I'm just a little weirded out having help test every > release of FC and now have to wait for FC2 release to be updated by rawhide. ? You said earlier test releases worked. Install FC2test2. Upgrade to FC2 final, but keep on running the older kernel until the bug is fixed. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Sat May 15 12:16:04 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:16:04 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040515064245.GA21351@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <200405151216.i4FCGD8K011849@mx3.redhat.com> It isn't that I love SuSE, I am just using them as a comparison. Is Fedora Core above being compared on functionality? Are you a developer who is above constructive feedback? Heck I could of used Mandrake or any other distro who understands that if Linux is going to make it to the masses, we NEED to make the experience as user friendly as possible for the vast majority of users. Not just the chosen few who can recompile a kernel. I take it you don't use Firewire in your business, so this topic isn't all that important to you, but for the rest of us we can all take a flying leap right? -----Original Message----- From: Jack Bowling [mailto:jbinpg at shaw.ca] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:43 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Working Firewire in FC2? On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:15:33PM -0400, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > Not to beat a dead horse, the question was, "where can you download a FREE > version of RedHat?" Note the word REDHAT. > > The links you provided are derivative works of the RedHat Distribution. You > could have thrown Mandrake in there too for that matter. But just because > they derive from RedHat doesn't mean they are RedHat. > > To answer the question, YOU CANT! The only way to get a copy of RedHat > anything today is you have to pay for it! So people shouldn't slam SuSE for > their ISO policy. At least they offer a comprehensive supportable product at > a very decent price. I'm tired of this. If you love SUSE so much, go give them your dollars. Just stop this nonsense on this list. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Sat May 15 12:24:33 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:24:33 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200405151224.i4FCOg8K013026@mx3.redhat.com> Alexandre, Thanks so much for the post and the explanation found on the ftp site. I will try it out. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Oliva [mailto:aoliva at redhat.com] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:23 AM To: Bruce P. Morin Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Working Firewire in FC2? On May 14, 2004, "Bruce P. Morin" wrote: > Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important > hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC1-firewire/ http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC2-firewire/ -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat May 15 13:35:35 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:35:35 +0200 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405151216.i4FCGD8K011849@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200405151216.i4FCGD8K011849@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084627398.27226.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 15/05/2004 ? 14:16, Bruce P. Morin a ?crit : > It isn't that I love SuSE, I am just using them as a comparison. Is Fedora > Core above being compared on functionality? Are you a developer who is above > constructive feedback? Heck I could of used Mandrake or any other distro who > understands that if Linux is going to make it to the masses, http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel.html Users : Early adopters, enthusiasts, developers RedHat doesn't make money with Fedora. You can't say : - "Guys spend some times to improve this for 0 $ because I am a customer". Fedora is a project with its bad and good sides. Read http://fedora.redhat.com/about/ If Fedora doesn't fit your needs, then use another distribution. Your feedbacks are welcome, but you should understand what Fedora is. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Sat May 15 14:01:50 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:01:50 -0500 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084629710.4598.19.camel@mercury> This is how I got RealPlayer to work on FC2 (same thing works on FC1 by the way): 1. Install the rpm rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm downloaded from realplayer.com 2. Copy the /usr/lib/RealPlayer/rpnp.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin. 3. Install the compatability lib compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.126.i386.rpm from fc2 iso 3. Timothy On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 00:06, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > jim wrote: > >I have just installed Realplayer9 and it does not have a rpnp.so to drag > >into /mozilla/plugins. > >Does anyone know what the name of the file you drag into Mozilla/plugins ? > > i believe you need to install the RealPlayer8 rpm and then you add the > additional RealPlayer9 codecs add-on. the rpnp.so plugin can be found in the > RealPlayer8 rpm. i just recently installed and this was the method i used. > perhaps, a complete RealPlay9 package exists but as of very recently, to the > best of my knowledge, it didn't. i guess linux (unix) isn't a priority for > Real, Inc. maybe someday we linux users won't be treated as second class > citizens anymore... > > mark. :-) > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. > http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ > From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sat May 15 14:14:57 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:14:57 -0500 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor Message-ID: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one choice of linux users. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583814,00.asp I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE as a optional install in Fedora2. Every time Redhat makes a move, it's counter to the majority of the linux community. I am for them making money and staying in business, but WOW the way they go about it. Jim Tate From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sat May 15 14:20:00 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:20:00 -0400 Subject: Firefox in Fedora 2 Message-ID: <1084630799.3985.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Anyone know why Firefox didn't make it in to the standard packages for Fedora 2? yes, it's easy to add in after the fact. And it's v.0.8, so it's not the "Official" release yet, but it's very stable and quickly spreading to other distros. From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sat May 15 14:22:14 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:22:14 -0400 Subject: Fedora 2 Final - yum/up2date vs. ISO's Message-ID: <1084630933.3985.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Any thoughts on the value of actually downloading the ISO's and installing or updating with them vs. just letting up2date and yum take you over to Fedora Core 2 final? I'm wondering if there are advantages of wiping my drive and loading the ISO's but yum seems to be handling and setting up for the transition nicely, so far. From mattdm at mattdm.org Sat May 15 14:25:02 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:25:02 -0400 Subject: Firefox in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <1084630799.3985.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084630799.3985.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040515142502.GA24041@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 10:20:00AM -0400, Rory Gleeson wrote: > Anyone know why Firefox didn't make it in to the standard packages for > Fedora 2? yes, it's easy to add in after the fact. And it's v.0.8, so > it's not the "Official" release yet, but it's very stable and quickly > spreading to other distros. It's in fedora.us / Fedora Extras. It'll probably move over to the main distro once it is the main Mozilla browser. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From paul at dishone.st Sat May 15 14:25:39 2004 From: paul at dishone.st (Paul Jakma) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:25:39 +0100 (IST) Subject: using sata_sil instead of siimage? Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to get a Sil3112 card and SATA disk working and would like to use the sata_sil module rather than the built-in siimage IDE driver. Is there any way to disable siimage on the kernel command line so as to allow me to be able to use the libata sata_sil driver? regards, -- Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie paul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A warning: do not ever send email to spam at dishone.st Fortune: Harrison's Postulate: For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. From pbender at qualcomm.com Sat May 15 14:32:53 2004 From: pbender at qualcomm.com (Paul Bender) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 07:32:53 -0700 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40A62A15.4090407@qualcomm.com> jim tate wrote: > Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one > choice of linux users. > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583814,00.asp > > I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE > as a optional install in Fedora2. > Every time Redhat makes a move, it's counter to the majority of > the linux community. I am for them making money and staying > in business, but WOW the way they go about it. > > Jim Tate Just because they chose GNOME over KDE does not mean that they hate KDE. When it comes to IT support within an organization, choice can be a bad thing. Choice can increase the cost and confuse the average user. To the average user, the desktop is the OS. Therefore, the difference between KDE and GNOME is the same as the difference between Windows and MacOS. Therefore, from a practical standpoint, they needed to pick one desktop. You can argue no about why they chose GNOME over KDE. However, they made that choice several releases ago, so I doubt that they will change their direction now. From gcarter at aesgi.com Sat May 15 14:36:16 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:36:16 -0500 Subject: OT: stop the excessive whining! In-Reply-To: <20040515044740.65327.qmail@web11406.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040515044740.65327.qmail@web11406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40A62AE0.6090408@aesgi.com> Whining you say? I do not think it is whining so much as the general decline of American based technology offerrings due to patent and copyright issues. After all, Linux is the future. That future will be shared in most part by the rest of the world and not the United States or probably Europe/Australia it would seem. What sort of impact that will have on the political and military power of my country, the USA remains to be seen. But when 1/3rd of humanity obviously doesn't want your software, computer microprocessor technology or even cell phones due to your trade and patent/copyright policies it is bound to have a major impact. If that isn't bad enough, you have leaders in business and industry in the USA proclaiming that it is actually good policy to use the draconian patent laws to prevent advances in technology, lock down markets and drive technology over seas through outsourcing. So now, in my country, you make money by preventing production and research of software, audio, and video by using the court system and use other countries to research and develop audio/video software and technology to be sold in the USA and in Western Europe. Within the next 10 years, all of the major software and technology advances in the computer industry will come from the Far East and the United States will be a country where software is learned as a simple academic excercise, that no one would actually seriously consider making a product from unless you want to go to jail. I suspect a major economic meltdown is going to happen in the USA as all of the production/research manufacturing leaves the country for China. This doesn't simply stop at the computer industry, it is increasingly the case in ALL industries in my country. Computers, Biotech etc. As it gets worse, I suspect patent and copyright laws will increase over here because business leaders in the US actually believe a patent is more important than a product. Quite simply it means there will be fewer people actually able to buy cell phones and high tech goods in this country because unless you are a lawyer or doctor you won't be able to afford them. This is already happening as most of my fellow Americans can't buy these things now. They simply use credit cards to boost their income. This has worked for a while, but won't for very much longer. The Fedora project I think is an attempt by RedHat to do the best it can given the current patent and copyright climate in the USA. But, don't expect it to become better. More and more kinds of software and other technology will become illegal as the markets dry up over here and move over seas. I don't mind if you whine, AT LEAST your not like 1/3rd of humanity that decided to chuck any form of USA computer software technology and do not actually USE Fedora for something useful such as China for example. China and the rest of the Far East it would seem are busily making their own distros and microprocessors to run them on. Ironically the best way to address your issues with Fedora may be the silent and ever growing non use of Microsoft products in general I see happening very gradually in IT departments in this country. Since most of the best parts of a linux distro are not written in the USA anyways, software patents may have a very finite lifetime, if the US lawyers have to go to China to kill the GPL like they have been trying to do here. If you really want to listen to MP3's and make copies of your personal data without going to jail, you need to ask and speak up about your work places policies on Microsoft products. Namely, start pilot programs and see if you can get rid of them! Start with open office, or KOffice or Gnome Office! Microsoft is becomming the largest patentor of software there is in this country and has new plans on the table to destroy Linux, at least in the US. Microsoft knows it cannot compete now against the vast army of Linux developers. It is out gunned and outmanned. Microsoft's only hope is patents and through patents make it illegal to use Linux in the US to protect its core market. That way they do not have to compete on technology, they can use money to buy any law they need to prevent competition with Office/Longhorn when it is released. Even Europe is resisting, or at the very least sees a problem in adopting the USA style of business. Europe with its vast social welfare programs can't afford to shut itself out of the Far East like the US has already done, in the most part thanks to Microsoft. They desperately need the tax money. But the real issue here is the patent and copyright issues in the USA, and nothing to do with the quality of the distro. I for one am praying RedHat can hold on through the comming melt down and emerge as a cornerstone to restore some part of the software industry in this country when this is all over 10 years from now. -gc Mark Fonnemann wrote: >Hello- > >is it just me or has there been an excessive amount of whining on the list >lately? i've kept quiet trying to ignore it but enough is enough. if people put >the time they spend whining abouut how Fedora inconveniences them etc. into >time building packages, fixing bugs, writing code, filing bugzilla reports, >etc. then there would be a lot less problems in Fedora. i don't mean to start a >flame war but i thought the list was supposed to be fedora-test-list and not >fedora-bitch-about-whatever-is-bothering-them-on-this-particular-day-even-if-it- >is-only-remotely-related-to-Fedora-bugs-found-during-testing. > >i admit the MP3, video player, and firewire are slightly incoveniencing but >there are well-known work arounds that exist... and i think everyone has beat >the issue to death. we all know where redhat stands on this and if people >aren't happy, then thanks to the freedom of open-source people can migrate >elsewhere. > >anyways, sorry for wasting everyone's time and bandwidth but after the recent >messages i felt the need to speak up. > >mark. :-) > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. >http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ > > > > From laurent at guerby.net Sat May 15 14:39:03 2004 From: laurent at guerby.net (Laurent GUERBY) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:39:03 +0200 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <1084631942.27622.467.camel@pc> On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 20:37, Dave Jones wrote: > The current SuSE kernel has just under 1,000 patches (no exaggeration). I'm curious on how you're counting. I installed SuSE 9.1 on my laptop (my other machine is running FC1, I previously tried FC2t1 and FC2t3 and filed a few bugzilla for my laptop). I'm not too familiar with SuSE SRPM (having followed Red Hat for a few years) but it looks like patches are in files like patches.xxx.tar.bz2, when I count files for all the xxx tarballs in kernel-source-2.6.4-54.5 I find 485, about 100 seems trivially not relevant for FC2 comparison x86/amd64 (ppc, s390, uml, various helper scripts, selection of patches from > 2.6.4 vanilla kernel). The remaining number is of course still big but the interesting thing will be wether the number goes toward zero when future 2.6 kernel are released. I'm not following LKML or bitkeeper, so I don't know if these patches get submitted upstream. Current 2.6 kernel has not yet reached the coverage and stability of 2.4 kernels so the initial FC2 users will suffer from this (I assume the Fedora project will put big disclaimers) but since this will help achieving total world domination, well... :) Sincerely, Laurent From ml at kevquinn.com Sat May 15 14:54:05 2004 From: ml at kevquinn.com (Kevin F. Quinn) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:54:05 +0200 Subject: FC2test3 - monitor goes off when X starts Message-ID: <40A62F0D.6040504@kevquinn.com> Tried installing FC2 test 3 from scratch on a desktop; P4, GeForce 3 Ti 200 (nVidia) card with an LCD panel 1280x1024 attached to the analogue svga output. The graphical install just comes up blank - i.e. as soon as X starts, the monitor switches itself off. Ran through the text install, fine until reboot into installed system when the same thing happens. I can't reliably get to the consoles (or at least, if it does switch, the monitor doesn't switch on). When I have been able to get to a text console, it seems that X found nothing wrong; when anaconda started X, the X log didn't mention any significant failures, indicating that X thinks the graphics card was configured ok. (maybe I'm trying the wrong thing to get to the consoles - CTRL-ALT-Fn) I've tried nofb, noddc, and setting the resolution directly. It could be a refresh rate problem, but the monitor says "no signal" rather than the "xkHz yHz out of range" message it gives if I set Windows to an out-of-range frequency mode. Any suggestions? Can I force the horizontal/vertical frequency settings on the kernel command line? Can I force the install to halt at a command prompt before starting the graphical install - or indeed get the installed system to boot to a shell promot instead of the graphical login? It's difficult to work this sort of thing out without being able to get into the system to start with :) TIA Kev. From gcarter at aesgi.com Sat May 15 14:56:09 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:56:09 -0500 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40A62F89.5080802@aesgi.com> I could say the reason why RedHat dislikes KDE and goes for GNOME is because GNOME developers do not understand OOP methdologies and are simpletons.... But that would start a fight. :-) You also have to understand the reason why both desktops exist in the first place. Qt which powers KDE's environment initally had licensing issues and I think that sorta burned a lot of people. All the burned people go together and created GTK, which powers GNOME. Qt is fully GPL'ed on the Linux platform, but not on Windows. Windowsn will be going away soon anyway so that isn't a big deal. :-) But seriously, I would like the LSB project to step in here and say the official LSB standard is GNOME and KDE and the standard requires interoperability and more importantly a choice for end users. I think it comes down to everyone trying to be the Linux Desktop of the future choice. It is easier for end users if you don't mix and match GNOME and KDE applications to prevent confusion. GNOME is certainly EASIER to install than KDE, which is farm more complex than GNOME to build and install from scratch, let alone configure after it is installed in the first place. Perhaps the choice was simply based on Utility.... -gc PS: I prefer KDE. :-) jim tate wrote: > Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one > choice of linux users. > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583814,00.asp > > I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE > as a optional install in Fedora2. > Every time Redhat makes a move, it's counter to the majority of > the linux community. I am for them making money and staying > in business, but WOW the way they go about it. > > Jim Tate > > From wtogami at redhat.com Sat May 15 14:55:47 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 04:55:47 -1000 Subject: Firefox in Fedora 2 In-Reply-To: <20040515142502.GA24041@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <1084630799.3985.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040515142502.GA24041@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <40A62F73.3040700@redhat.com> Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 10:20:00AM -0400, Rory Gleeson wrote: > >>Anyone know why Firefox didn't make it in to the standard packages for >>Fedora 2? yes, it's easy to add in after the fact. And it's v.0.8, so >>it's not the "Official" release yet, but it's very stable and quickly >>spreading to other distros. > > > It's in fedora.us / Fedora Extras. It'll probably move over to the main > distro once it is the main Mozilla browser. > https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1460 Next revision of firefox & thunderbird for FC1 and FC2. Please help in testing and patching so we can finally release this. Warren From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Sat May 15 14:58:13 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:58:13 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084627398.27226.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405151458.i4FEwM2W001203@mx1.redhat.com> Listen, I completely understand that the project is backed by RedHat and is community driven. Debian is also community driven and they have three paths, stable, testing and sid. With each of them, I have gotten most if not all common hardware to work without much effort, depending on the path. What I am saying here is that Firewire is not uncommon minority hardware, and for a stable release of anything not to support it is poor. How long has it been available?? As for working for 0 dollars well, I guess if you want something that works out of the box, then Microsoft is the way to go. The old saying goes "You get what you pay for." Hopefully Microsoft doesn't follow this list, comments like that regarding the kernel, or better yet, "Sadly the code isn't as great." By David Jones, is fodder for the Microsoft propaganda machine. Another Love it or leave it attitude: "If Fedora doesn't fit your needs, then use another distribution" Critical comments, product comparisons, etc, help build better software. Unfortunately after looking at the amount of flames I received as well as the many others who bring forth Fedora's shortcomings only to receive such remarks really demonstrate why most users will NEVER have Linux on their desktop. -----Original Message----- From: Matias Feliciano [mailto:feliciano.matias at free.fr] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:36 AM To: bpmorin at safepointetech.com; For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: Working Firewire in FC2? Le sam 15/05/2004 ? 14:16, Bruce P. Morin a ?crit : > It isn't that I love SuSE, I am just using them as a comparison. Is Fedora > Core above being compared on functionality? Are you a developer who is above > constructive feedback? Heck I could of used Mandrake or any other distro who > understands that if Linux is going to make it to the masses, http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel.html Users : Early adopters, enthusiasts, developers RedHat doesn't make money with Fedora. You can't say : - "Guys spend some times to improve this for 0 $ because I am a customer". Fedora is a project with its bad and good sides. Read http://fedora.redhat.com/about/ If Fedora doesn't fit your needs, then use another distribution. Your feedbacks are welcome, but you should understand what Fedora is. From gcarter at aesgi.com Sat May 15 15:13:13 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:13:13 -0500 Subject: Fedora 2 Final - yum/up2date vs. ISO's In-Reply-To: <1084630933.3985.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084630933.3985.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A63389.5040606@aesgi.com> Rory Gleeson wrote: >Any thoughts on the value of actually downloading the ISO's and >installing or updating with them vs. just letting up2date and yum take >you over to Fedora Core 2 final? > >I'm wondering if there are advantages of wiping my drive and loading the >ISO's but yum seems to be handling and setting up for the transition >nicely, so far. > > > > Test releases do things that are a little wick wicky with respect to final choices of libs and what not in the official release. I also call this "caty-wumpus" development methodology. It is quite well know. :-) If you upgrade from Test3 FC2 and it doesn't work you then have a "caty-wumpus" installation. Usage: "I upgraded my FC test3 to the final release and now it is caty-wumpus. What do I do now?" :-) RPM's are only as good as the person who writes the scripts for the SPEC files. I think people have some rather unreasonable expectationss about RPM's in general and conclude rpm -Uvh is all you need to know and nothing can go wrong with RPM's. That is NOT how it actually works in practice, though it is what we strive for as a goal. In a test release the RPM's may not be designed to upgrade packages properly, just to copy them to the hard drive and get a test environment working. Final release RPM's are suppose to be fully upgradeable. Any update RPM's released after that the SPEC scripts should be as bullet proof as possible for that official release. (i.e. rpm -Uvh or rpm -Fvh and awaaaaaaaaaaaay you go!) OBVIOUSLY that suggests since developers are working on the software itself during the test cycle, 80% of it is configuration issues FYI, they do not consider what would happen if that SPEC has to upgrade another SPEC. After all, they are building the distro and nothing in stone is set yet. So, no do NOT upgrade from the test release to the final release. It probably will MOSTLY work... I went from test2 to test3 upgrade and my hotplug stopped working.... Still haven't figured that out yet....working on it though!!! -gc PS: "My hotplug feature is caty-wumpus now that I upgraded to test3 from test2". From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat May 15 15:24:31 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> Message-ID: <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Eugen Leitl said: > This isn't applicable for torrents and freecache. There's no point not to > open those once you have a master, and an initial seed community. Which would lead to a firehose of "I can't use bittorrent, why isn't it on the mirrors" posts. Is it really so terrible to wait a couple of days? -- William Hooper From eugen at leitl.org Sat May 15 15:45:42 2004 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 17:45:42 +0200 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <20040515154542.GZ25728@leitl.org> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 11:24:31AM -0400, William Hooper wrote: > Which would lead to a firehose of "I can't use bittorrent, why isn't it on > the mirrors" posts. This is a good thing. Mirrors are expensive to run, p2p lets your customers bear the brunt of the load. p2p is the way of the future. Let's get people get hooked in p2p distribution method early. > Is it really so terrible to wait a couple of days? Time's a terrible thing to waste. Right now I have time to install the new Athlon64 box, so I'm forced to do a test3-install-and-upgrade. This is not guaranteed to work, I won't have time next week, and by then the system is too heavily cutomized to upgrade from scratch, so I'll be stuck with a potentially flaky system. -- Eugen* Leitl leitl ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From h.mayer at inode.at Sat May 15 15:43:18 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 17:43:18 +0200 Subject: FC2test3 - monitor goes off when X starts In-Reply-To: <40A62F0D.6040504@kevquinn.com> References: <40A62F0D.6040504@kevquinn.com> Message-ID: <40A63A96.6020601@inode.at> Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > Any suggestions? Can I force the horizontal/vertical frequency settings > on the kernel command line? Yes, the horiz/vert frequencies might be the problem, because there is a bug in DDC. Look into xorg.conf and uncomment the lines for HorizSync and VertRefresh. Maybe that will do the trick... Cheers, Hannes. From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Sat May 15 16:21:38 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:21:38 -0500 Subject: winex In-Reply-To: <1084592325.2717.1.camel@Basanizo> References: <1084592325.2717.1.camel@Basanizo> Message-ID: <200405151121.38978.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> I have tried 3.3.X. Kept getting "error=21". I turned off prelinking and recompiled the kernel without any security. It still didn't work, so I gave up. I spent maybe 20 minutes on it, except for the kernel recompile which was automated. Byte On Friday 14 May 2004 22:38, Law Horne wrote: > has anyone attempted to run winex on Fedora C2T3. > > Thanks Law From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sat May 15 16:33:36 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 13:33:36 -0300 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405151458.i4FEwM2W001203@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200405151458.i4FEwM2W001203@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A64660.3050500@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Bruce P. Morin wrote: >Listen, > >I completely understand that the project is backed by RedHat and is >community driven. Debian is also community driven and they have three paths, >stable, testing and sid. With each of them, I have gotten most if not all >common hardware to work without much effort, depending on the path. > >What I am saying here is that Firewire is not uncommon minority hardware, >and for a stable release of anything not to support it is poor. How long has >it been available?? > > > You really should search the net... A simple search on google pointed a archive of LKM showing this issue (http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0403.2/0058.html) . If you searched a bit deeper , you would find messages on fedora-devel-list and/or fedora-test-list (dont remmember exactly which one) saying that firewire was disabled because it wasnt functional and simply insmodding it caused the system to hang. On the same thread , someone said that as soon as the upstream code worked again , then they would enable it again in Fedora. This is the effect of the new policy of keeping in sync with upstream sources.. If you think fedora is doing the wrong thing , ok , go ahead and use suse or debian if they work for you... I'm not a developer , but I understand the choices made by the developers and support them. I know the pain of having to keep some software working perfectly and I can imagine the pain it is to keep track of something as big as the kernel when you have millions of extra patches.... >As for working for 0 dollars well, I guess if you want something that works >out of the box, then Microsoft is the way to go. The old saying goes "You >get what you pay for." Hopefully Microsoft doesn't follow this list, >comments like that regarding the kernel, or better yet, "Sadly the code >isn't as great." By David Jones, is fodder for the Microsoft propaganda >machine. > >Another Love it or leave it attitude: > >"If Fedora doesn't fit your needs, then use another distribution" > >Critical comments, product comparisons, etc, help build better software. >Unfortunately after looking at the amount of flames I received as well as >the many others who bring forth Fedora's shortcomings only to receive such >remarks really demonstrate why most users will NEVER have Linux on their >desktop. > > > Sometimes comparisons should be carefull, specially in linux world , where love is a very strong feeling.. In one of your messages , you say "RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously as it has always been a struggle to get it working, and that's a shame as it is great technology." . Ok , if it never worked , where are the bug reports? If you really bothered to have it working, you could had filled bug reports so the developers could be made aware of the problems (you know , they dont know all the bugs that exist in the software they mantain.. if they knew, there would be no bugs , as all of them would be fixed) Now , try to do this same kind of comparison with Suse or Debian users.. you'll be flamed to death (more flamed than you've been here..) . I gave up on counting the number of times I've been flamed about stupid beliefs of debian and suse users (like "redhat dont have ipv6 support" ... and the idiot who said that is a suse user and also happened to be my boss.. no wonder why I quit my job..) -- Pedro Macedo From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sat May 15 16:35:54 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 13:35:54 -0300 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <40A64660.3050500@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <200405151458.i4FEwM2W001203@mx1.redhat.com> <40A64660.3050500@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <40A646EA.1050207@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Sometimes comparisons should be carefull, specially in linux world , > where love is a very strong feeling.. In one of your messages , you > say "RedHat has really never taken Firewire seriously as it has always > been a struggle to get it working, and that's a shame as it is great > technology." . Ok , if it never worked , where are the bug reports? If > you really bothered to have it working, you could had filled bug > reports so the developers could be made aware of the problems (you > know , they dont know all the bugs that exist in the software they > mantain.. if they knew, there would be no bugs , as all of them would > be fixed) > Now , try to do this same kind of comparison with Suse or Debian > users.. you'll be flamed to death (more flamed than you've been > here..) . I gave up on counting the number of times I've been flamed > about stupid beliefs of debian and suse users (like "redhat dont have > ipv6 support" ... and the idiot who said that is a suse user and also > happened to be my boss.. no wonder why I quit my job..) Ok , this last sentence was unfinished (I was holding ctrl when I pressed enter to create a new paragraph and the message was sent)... Please , when reading , add a paragraph after "feeling.." -- Pedro Macedo From www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br Sat May 15 16:44:21 2004 From: www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br (Marco Bicca) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 13:44:21 -0300 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <40A42779.8010102@insight.rr.com> References: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> <40A3F5B2.8010303@earthlink.net> <40A42779.8010102@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <6.0.2.0.2.20040515134209.02a45950@pop.sao.terra.com.br> At 21:57 05-13-2004 -0400, you wrote: Hello there, I have an installation with Windows XP and Fedora Core 2 Test 3 and my Windows option inside grub looks like: rootnoverify (hd1,0) unhide (hd1,0) hide (hd0,0) hide (hd0,1) makeactive chainloader 1+ Hope it helps, let me know if you need more information. Thanks, >Gerry Tool wrote: >>Jim Cornette wrote: >> >>>Marco Bambini wrote: >>> >>>>I have a laptop (Acer Aspire 1300 with a 20GB HD) with Windows XP in >>>>the first partition (15GB) and Fedora Core 2 test1 in the second one >>>>(with GRUB for the dual boot and it always works fine). I have decided >>>>to install Fedora Core 2 test3 (with the erase linux partition option) >>>>and the installation works fine. >>>> >>>>But when I try to boot on my WindowsXP partition (with Grub) nothing >>>>happens... >>>>I am now UNABLE to boot into my WindowsXP partiotion... >>>>I have read that others have the same problem after the Fedora install >>>>... but I haven't found any solution that works for me. >>>> >>>>Anyone can help me? >>>> >>>> >>>>#fdisk -l >>>>Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20003880960 bytes >>>>16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38760 cylinders >>>>Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes >>>> >>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>/dev/hda1 * 1 26550 13381168+ 7 HPFS/NTFS >>>>/dev/hda2 26551 26753 102312 83 Linux >>>>/dev/hda3 26754 37785 5560128 83 Linux >>>>/dev/hda4 37786 38760 491400 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) >>>>/dev/hda5 37786 38760 491368+ 82 Linux swap >>>> >>>>#cat /etc/grub.conf >>>># grub.conf generated by anaconda >>>># >>>># Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file >>>># NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that >>>># all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. >>>># root (hd0,1) >>>># kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 >>>># initrd /initrd-version.img >>>>#boot=/dev/hda >>>>default=1 >>>>timeout=10 >>>>splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz >>>>title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) >>>> root (hd0,1) >>>> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet >>>> initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img >>>>title WindowsXP >>>> rootnoverify (hd0,0) >>>> chainloader +1 >>>> >>>>I really need your help... >>>>Thanks a lot. >>>> >>>>Marco Bambini >>>>Italy >>>> >>> >>>I had a problem during FC1 where XP would not boot. I see that the >>>partition is active already from the fdisk output. >>> >>>I ended up putting the below into grub.conf and it worked. This was the >>>entry from the configuration section in "info grub". >>>I only see a difference between the two entries with root instead of >>>rootnoverify and the makeactive entry. >>> >>> # For booting Windows NT or Windows95 >>> title Windows NT / Windows 95 boot menu >>> root (hd0,0) >>> makeactive >>> chainloader +1 >>> >>>YMMV, >>> >>>Jim >>> >>> >>Yes, I had tried this to no avail during one of my failures of XP to boot. >>Gerry Tool > >I haven't read the info for FC2 versions of grub. Is there any changes in >the documentation regarding changes to the way non-linux OSes are >configured. I pulled the info from FC1's version of grub. > >When the above entry worked for me, FC was on a slave disk and XP was on >the primary disk. Before changing the entry from the default entry to the >one from grub's documentation, XP only booted to a black screen and did >not load. > >Do you think that the problem might be that fdisk (linux) set up the >information in the partition table differently than XP is used to? > >I wonder what booting into level 1 and changing the hda4 entry to a >primary partition, instead of an extended partition, changing hda4 to a >linux swap partition and eliminating hda5 would have any positive effect? >(Thinking that XP might have different meanings for info in boot.ini with >the extended partition. (container for linux swap). > >Sorry no help for this particular booting XP problem. It looks like >putting in the installation CD for XP and going to the console repair mode >and running fixboot and fixmbr might be the only solution. It would show >what XP (nt) thinks the partition name should be. > >Jim > > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list ___ Marco Bicca Network Security Engineer eMail: mbicca at terra.com.br iCq: 3198441 YiM: twilightdrummer MsNm: hadeswarden at hotmail.com Linux registered user: 298447 PgP Key @ http://mbicca.securesolution.com.br/pgp/marco_bicca.asc In the year of the new century and nine months, From the sky will come a great King of Terror... The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city..." In the city of york there will be a great collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb, third big war will begin when the big city is burning" NOSTRADAMUS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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OE. yarowe, yarwe, yogharowe, AS. > gearwe; akin to D. gerw, OHG. garwa, garawa, G. garbe, > schafgarbe, and perhaps to E. yare. (Bot.) > An American and European composite plant (Achillea > Millefolium) with very finely dissected leaves and small > white corymbed flowers. It has a strong, and somewhat > aromatic, odor and taste, and is sometimes used in making > beer, or is dried for smoking. Called also milfoil, and > nosebleed. > And I thought we were branching toward concepts like "This Distro Is Your Distro, This Distro Is My Distro ..." Silly me. > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat May 15 17:21:37 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 19:21:37 +0200 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <6.0.2.0.2.20040515134209.02a45950@pop.sao.terra.com.br> References: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> <40A3F5B2.8010303@earthlink.net> <40A42779.8010102@insight.rr.com> <6.0.2.0.2.20040515134209.02a45950@pop.sao.terra.com.br> Message-ID: <40A651A1.30602@gmx.de> Marco Bicca wrote: > I have an installation with Windows XP and Fedora Core 2 Test 3 and my > Windows option inside grub looks like: > > rootnoverify (hd1,0) > unhide (hd1,0) > hide (hd0,0) > hide (hd0,1) > makeactive > chainloader 1+ what would happen if you unhide (hd0,0) (hd0,1) can you boot into xp ? do you have an extented partition on hda or 2 primaries ? do you have only 1 primary on hdb for xp ? my w2k-prof boot.ini under vmware on sda1 ---- c:\boot.ini [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect ---- -- shrek-m From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat May 15 17:24:46 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040515143513.24B4273C6A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040515172446.26387.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- On May 14, 2004, "Bruce P. Morin" wrote: >> Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important >> hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. Alexandre Oliva wrote: >http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC1-firewire/ >http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC2-firewire/ i assume that ieee1394 will be re-enabled in a development kernel in the very near future? mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br Sat May 15 17:49:02 2004 From: www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br (Marco Bicca) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:49:02 -0300 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <40A651A1.30602@gmx.de> References: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> <40A3F5B2.8010303@earthlink.net> <40A42779.8010102@insight.rr.com> <6.0.2.0.2.20040515134209.02a45950@pop.sao.terra.com.br> <40A651A1.30602@gmx.de> Message-ID: <6.0.2.0.2.20040515144600.02a4ca00@pop.sao.terra.com.br> At 19:21 05-15-2004 +0200, you wrote: Ok .. here is my setup: 2 120GB Harddrives on a Promise Controller as HDE and HDG I have Fedora on HDE and WinXP on HDG If I do not hide the partitions under HDE I couldn't boot to WinXP (Don't know why) The partition that I have on HDG is NTFS, after I did that change it's working beautifully ... I don't have any extended partitions on any hard drive all partitions are primary I have two partitions on HDE and one partition on HDG. HDE / - ext3 - primary swap - primary HDG ntfs - primary Let me know if you need anything else :) Thanks, >Marco Bicca wrote: > >>I have an installation with Windows XP and Fedora Core 2 Test 3 and my >>Windows option inside grub looks like: >> >>rootnoverify (hd1,0) >>unhide (hd1,0) >>hide (hd0,0) >>hide (hd0,1) >>makeactive >>chainloader 1+ > > >what would happen if you unhide (hd0,0) (hd0,1) >can you boot into xp ? > >do you have an extented partition on hda or 2 primaries ? >do you have only 1 primary on hdb for xp ? > > >my w2k-prof boot.ini under vmware on sda1 >---- >c:\boot.ini >[boot loader] >timeout=30 >default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT >[operating systems] >multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 >Professional" /fastdetect >---- > > >-- >shrek-m > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list ___ Marco Bicca Network Security Engineer eMail: mbicca at terra.com.br iCq: 3198441 YiM: twilightdrummer MsNm: hadeswarden at hotmail.com Linux registered user: 298447 PgP Key @ http://mbicca.securesolution.com.br/pgp/marco_bicca.asc In the year of the new century and nine months, From the sky will come a great King of Terror... The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city..." In the city of york there will be a great collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb, third big war will begin when the big city is burning" NOSTRADAMUS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From draek at shaw.ca Sat May 15 17:46:33 2004 From: draek at shaw.ca (Phil Durand) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:46:33 -0600 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <1084629710.4598.19.camel@mercury> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084629710.4598.19.camel@mercury> Message-ID: <1084643193.3685.0.camel@S0106000d612bb8aa.cg.shawcable.net> Why dont you guys install the RealONE Player for Linux instead? Isnt that version 9? Is there something that I'm not getting using this player that number 8 would provide? thanks On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 08:01, timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu wrote: > This is how I got RealPlayer to work on FC2 (same thing works on FC1 by > the way): > > 1. Install the rpm rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm downloaded from > realplayer.com > 2. Copy the /usr/lib/RealPlayer/rpnp.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin. > 3. Install the compatability lib compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.126.i386.rpm > from fc2 iso 3. > > Timothy > > On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 00:06, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > Hello- > > > > jim wrote: > > >I have just installed Realplayer9 and it does not have a rpnp.so to drag > > >into /mozilla/plugins. > > >Does anyone know what the name of the file you drag into Mozilla/plugins ? > > > > i believe you need to install the RealPlayer8 rpm and then you add the > > additional RealPlayer9 codecs add-on. the rpnp.so plugin can be found in the > > RealPlayer8 rpm. i just recently installed and this was the method i used. > > perhaps, a complete RealPlay9 package exists but as of very recently, to the > > best of my knowledge, it didn't. i guess linux (unix) isn't a priority for > > Real, Inc. maybe someday we linux users won't be treated as second class > > citizens anymore... > > > > mark. :-) > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. > > http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ > > > From reg at dwf.com Sat May 15 17:51:16 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:51:16 -0600 Subject: interpret this BIOS Message-ID: <200405151751.i4FHpGsW018183@orion.dwf.com> Ive done some google scans (and looked for documentation in /usr/share/doc and /usr/src/linux/Documentation) but dont find the key to interpreting what physical memory is beeing seen by the following BIOS entries: BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009e800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009e800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000002fffc000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000002fffc000 - 000000002ffff000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 000000002ffff000 - 0000000030000000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) I would guess that the 'usable' lines are probably the ones I should be looking at, but if thats the case, then I cant get the sizes to come out right. Can someone explain what Im seeing here so I can interpret it on another machine. -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From menscher at uiuc.edu Sat May 15 18:07:56 2004 From: menscher at uiuc.edu (Damian Menscher) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 13:07:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: On Sat, 15 May 2004, William Hooper wrote: > Eugen Leitl said: > > This isn't applicable for torrents and freecache. There's no point not to > > open those once you have a master, and an initial seed community. > > Which would lead to a firehose of "I can't use bittorrent, why isn't it on > the mirrors" posts. > > Is it really so terrible to wait a couple of days? Yes, it really is. Here the school semester just ended, and students are away for a few days. It's the perfect time to upgrade, and I'd been planning it for this time ever since the 5/3 release was predicted. In another few days the users will be back. Isn't the entire point of a torrent that it goes fast for everyone, and faster if more people use it? Wouldn't the mirrors get it faster that way? Though personally I have to wonder why mirrors still exist. Those who use them *should* be penalized. Some random analogies: carpool lane on the highway (2+ people in your car, you can go faster), automatic lanes at toll booth (you pay faster, you can get through faster), ATM machine (you don't need hand-holding, you get more convenient service). Personally, I usually grab a copy via bittorrent and then give it to our local mirror. Damian Menscher -- -=#| Physics Grad Student & SysAdmin @ U Illinois Urbana-Champaign |#=- -=#| 488 LLP, 1110 W. Green St, Urbana, IL 61801 Ofc:(217)333-0038 |#=- -=#| www.uiuc.edu/~menscher/ Fax:(217)333-9819 |#=- -=#| The above opinions are not necessarily those of my employers. |#=- From mattdm at mattdm.org Sat May 15 18:17:52 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:17:52 -0400 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <20040515181752.GA31107@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 01:07:56PM -0500, Damian Menscher wrote: > faster if more people use it? Wouldn't the mirrors get it faster that > way? Though personally I have to wonder why mirrors still exist. Those > who use them *should* be penalized. Some random analogies: carpool lane > on the highway (2+ people in your car, you can go faster), automatic > lanes at toll booth (you pay faster, you can get through faster), ATM > machine (you don't need hand-holding, you get more convenient service). bittorrent has some flaws for this. Most notably, it has no concept of network or geographical closeness, and so ends up using a lot _more_ bandwidth overall. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Sat May 15 18:43:33 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 13:43:33 -0500 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <1084643193.3685.0.camel@S0106000d612bb8aa.cg.shawcable.net> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084629710.4598.19.camel@mercury> <1084643193.3685.0.camel@S0106000d612bb8aa.cg.shawcable.net> Message-ID: <1084646613.4598.25.camel@mercury> I use mplayer and vlc for all my video stuff. All I really need realplayer for is some audio-only sites I still frequent. I have successfully installed realplayer9 in the past but it never ran reliably. With realplayer8 it just works. If you need the video portion of rp9 maybe someone else on the list could help you out, been too long since I've messed with it. Timothy On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 12:46, Phil Durand wrote: > Why dont you guys install the RealONE Player for Linux instead? Isnt > that version 9? > > Is there something that I'm not getting using this player that number 8 > would provide? > > thanks > > On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 08:01, timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu wrote: > > This is how I got RealPlayer to work on FC2 (same thing works on FC1 by > > the way): > > > > 1. Install the rpm rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm downloaded from > > realplayer.com > > 2. Copy the /usr/lib/RealPlayer/rpnp.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin. > > 3. Install the compatability lib compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.126.i386.rpm > > from fc2 iso 3. > > > > Timothy > > > > On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 00:06, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > > Hello- > > > > > > jim wrote: > > > >I have just installed Realplayer9 and it does not have a rpnp.so to drag > > > >into /mozilla/plugins. > > > >Does anyone know what the name of the file you drag into Mozilla/plugins ? > > > > > > i believe you need to install the RealPlayer8 rpm and then you add the > > > additional RealPlayer9 codecs add-on. the rpnp.so plugin can be found in the > > > RealPlayer8 rpm. i just recently installed and this was the method i used. > > > perhaps, a complete RealPlay9 package exists but as of very recently, to the > > > best of my knowledge, it didn't. i guess linux (unix) isn't a priority for > > > Real, Inc. maybe someday we linux users won't be treated as second class > > > citizens anymore... > > > > > > mark. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. > > > http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ > > > > > > From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Sat May 15 18:44:17 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: final release In-Reply-To: References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <65023.65.40.71.237.1084646657.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Damian Menscher said: > On Sat, 15 May 2004, William Hooper wrote: >> Eugen Leitl said: >> > This isn't applicable for torrents and freecache. There's no point not >> to >> > open those once you have a master, and an initial seed community. >> >> Which would lead to a firehose of "I can't use bittorrent, why isn't it >> on >> the mirrors" posts. >> >> Is it really so terrible to wait a couple of days? > > Yes, it really is. Here the school semester just ended, and students > are away for a few days. It's the perfect time to upgrade, and I'd been > planning it for this time ever since the 5/3 release was predicted. In > another few days the users will be back. Which means we should go back to the days of not pre-announcing release dates. Releases always slip and there will always be people disappointed. :-) > Isn't the entire point of a torrent that it goes fast for everyone, and > faster if more people use it? Wouldn't the mirrors get it faster that > way? Though personally I have to wonder why mirrors still exist. Those > who use them *should* be penalized. Some random analogies: carpool lane > on the highway (2+ people in your car, you can go faster), automatic > lanes at toll booth (you pay faster, you can get through faster), ATM > machine (you don't need hand-holding, you get more convenient service). If there were a brick wall between you and the carpool lane, toll both, or ATM then you might have an accurate analogy. Not everyone can use bittorrent so it makes more sense to have everything released at once instead of creating a class of "haves" and "have nots". Fedora is about community, remember? -- William Hooper From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat May 15 18:52:42 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:52:42 -0400 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> Damian Menscher wrote: > On Sat, 15 May 2004, William Hooper wrote: > >>Eugen Leitl said: >> >>>This isn't applicable for torrents and freecache. There's no point not to >>>open those once you have a master, and an initial seed community. >> >>Which would lead to a firehose of "I can't use bittorrent, why isn't it on >>the mirrors" posts. >> >>Is it really so terrible to wait a couple of days? > > > Yes, it really is. Here the school semester just ended, and students > are away for a few days. It's the perfect time to upgrade, and I'd been > planning it for this time ever since the 5/3 release was predicted. In > another few days the users will be back. > > Isn't the entire point of a torrent that it goes fast for everyone, and > faster if more people use it? Wouldn't the mirrors get it faster that > way? Though personally I have to wonder why mirrors still exist. Those > who use them *should* be penalized. I still feel uncomfortable with p2p transfers. Also, I don't like the idea of getting the download in fragments and then reconstructed. I would rather get transfers from mirrors with a pretty good reputation, instead of a bits and pieces download and reconstructed files. Jim Some random analogies: carpool lane > on the highway (2+ people in your car, you can go faster), automatic > lanes at toll booth (you pay faster, you can get through faster), ATM > machine (you don't need hand-holding, you get more convenient service). > > Personally, I usually grab a copy via bittorrent and then give it to our > local mirror. > > Damian Menscher -- What happened last night can happen again. From eugen at leitl.org Sat May 15 19:09:31 2004 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 21:09:31 +0200 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 02:52:42PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > I still feel uncomfortable with p2p transfers. Also, I don't like the You shouldn't. The integrity is asserted by the transport layer, you shall of course check digital signatures to assert you're downloading the genuine thing (if you're paranoid that way, I personally don't bother to check at this yellow-green threat level). > idea of getting the download in fragments and then reconstructed. I TCP/IP does that, too. Are you uncomfortable with reading this mail as well? > would rather get transfers from mirrors with a pretty good reputation, > instead of a bits and pieces download and reconstructed files. If you want reputation tracking, use digital signatures to validate authenticity. Anything else is easily fakeable. > >Personally, I usually grab a copy via bittorrent and then give it to our > >local mirror. I personally much prefer to torrent, and leave the download session open for at least a day, just to be a good bittorrentcitizen. I only use http/ftp mirrors for those more braindead distributions who're not into the wonders of P2P yet (hello? Debian? what gives?). -- Eugen* Leitl leitl ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From markf78 at yahoo.com Sat May 15 19:11:39 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 12:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040515184355.655AB7441B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040515191140.65390.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- you wrote: >Why dont you guys install the RealONE Player for Linux instead? Isnt >that version 9? i wasn't aware that the RealOne Player existed for Linux... i'm assuming it must have been made available very recently. however, it is currently *alpha* status according to http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/en-AU/linux.html#RealOne. so i'll pass. i'd much rather use the stable 8 rpm and then add the 9 codecs in for the same effect with much less hassle in the long run i'm sure. besides, i don't care to (indirectly) volunteer to be an alpha tester for Real (or whatever they now call themselves)... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From jos at xos.nl Sat May 15 19:18:18 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 21:18:18 +0200 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040515191140.65390.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com>; from markf78@yahoo.com on Sat, May 15, 2004 at 12:11:39PM -0700 References: <20040515184355.655AB7441B@hormel.redhat.com> <20040515191140.65390.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040515211818.A11972@xos037.xos.nl> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 12:11:39PM -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > i wasn't aware that the RealOne Player existed for Linux... i'm assuming it > must have been made available very recently. however, it is currently *alpha* Well... I just found back a rpm I made here internally for RHL 8.0 on 20 January 2003 (!). But it may be an alpha or beta version as my rpm has "9.a1.cs2" as version (RealNetworks uses all kinds of weird version numbering, or no real version at all, as "RealPlayer G2", sigh...). -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From shahms at shahms.com Sat May 15 19:22:51 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms E. King) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 12:22:51 -0700 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040515211818.A11972@xos037.xos.nl> References: <20040515184355.655AB7441B@hormel.redhat.com> <20040515191140.65390.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> <20040515211818.A11972@xos037.xos.nl> Message-ID: <1084648971.6775.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> There are Helix Player RPMS available as well and those will play all of the newest Real Audio formats *and* the player is "open source" and uses Gtk+. On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 12:18, Jos Vos wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 12:11:39PM -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > > i wasn't aware that the RealOne Player existed for Linux... i'm assuming it > > must have been made available very recently. however, it is currently *alpha* > > Well... I just found back a rpm I made here internally for RHL 8.0 > on 20 January 2003 (!). > > But it may be an alpha or beta version as my rpm has "9.a1.cs2" as version > (RealNetworks uses all kinds of weird version numbering, or no real version > at all, as "RealPlayer G2", sigh...). > > -- > -- Jos Vos > -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 > -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 -- --Shahms -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat May 15 19:31:25 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:31:25 -0400 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40A6700D.6030102@insight.rr.com> jim tate wrote: > Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one > choice of linux users. I've used GNOME since RHL 5.2. KDE was added later. I used KDE first when Mandrake was an RHL 5.2 distro with KDE added. I played around with KDE for awhile, then switched back to RHL. I don't know what survey the above statement is based upon. Redhat added KDE as a choice. GNOME and other desktops were before KDE. I rarely use KDE, but install it as a failsafe and for different choices. I don't dislike KDE. I just feel more comfortable with GNOME. Having an option to choose one or the other is my preferred option. I can understand if streamlining products to less choice is a corporate strategy. They might have a better grasp on the common used. > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583814,00.asp > > I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE > as a optional install in Fedora2. > Every time Redhat makes a move, it's counter to the majority of > the linux community. I am for them making money and staying > in business, but WOW the way they go about it. > > Jim Tate > > -- What happened last night can happen again. From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Sat May 15 19:34:50 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:34:50 -0300 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040515172446.26387.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040515172446.26387.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40A670DA.3030902@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Mark Fonnemann wrote: >Hello- > >On May 14, 2004, "Bruce P. Morin" wrote: > > >>>Does anyone know if Firewire will be functional in FC2? This is an important >>>hardware tool for us, and it wasn't working in FC1. >>> >>> > >Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > >>http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC1-firewire/ >>http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC2-firewire/ >> >> > >i assume that ieee1394 will be re-enabled in a development kernel in the very >near future? > >mark. :-) > > Probably yes. When this problem was posted for the first time (dont remmember if it was in fedora-test-list or fedora-devel-list) , the developers said that if needed , they'd ship FC2 with firewire disabled , but wanted to enable it again ASAP.. In this case , I believe that as soon as it has been tested a lot , it'll be pushed to the updates directory... -- Pedro Macedo From maxer1 at xmission.com Sat May 15 19:39:12 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 13:39:12 -0600 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002d01c43ab4$4c840020$0200000a@frank> I can't install FC2test2 the kernel 2.6.3-1.xx fails on fs detect. Kernel panic. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Alexandre Oliva Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:45 AM To: raxet Cc: 'For testers of Fedora Core development releases' Subject: Re: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? On May 14, 2004, "raxet" wrote: > I'm not saying delay, I'm just a little weirded out having help test every > release of FC and now have to wait for FC2 release to be updated by rawhide. ? You said earlier test releases worked. Install FC2test2. Upgrade to FC2 final, but keep on running the older kernel until the bug is fixed. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fperez at colorado.edu Sat May 15 20:13:37 2004 From: fperez at colorado.edu (Fernando Perez) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:13:37 -0600 Subject: Some problems with FC2T3 Message-ID: <40A679F1.5090302@colorado.edu> Hi all, I'd like to report some issues with a recent install of FC2T3 which I haven't found on the list or in bugzilla yet. If they are confirmed, I can go ahead and file bugzilla reports for them. These notes detail various problems encountered with Fedora2. Except for things noted here, the installation was successful. System description ================== Clean, custom (over FTP) install of Fedora2 Test 3. System: Dell Optiplex GX-270 (Pentium 4, 2.8GHz, 40 GB Hard disk, 1 GB RAM, NVidia GeForce 4MX video card, Dell 2000FP LCD, correctly identified and working at 1600x1200 resolution). This machine was previously running Fedora1, but a clean install (not an upgrade) was done. / was formatted with ext3, a 1 GB swap partition was also fromatted. An existing ext3 /scratch partition was kept (it had data). /home and /usr/local are NFS served by a RedHat9 box, and this setup had been successfully used for about a year (first with RedHat and then with Fedora1 on the client). The only problem was the lack of sound support under Fedora1 for the Intel ICH5 chip: this is now working with Fedora2. Installation Issues =================== - Individual package selection seems to have been removed. If a package is not included in the default groups, it has to be manually installed later. Generating a nice, clean kickstart template is now much harder, since one has to manually track packages to do it. The old method of doing a single install carefully and using the resulting anaconda-ks.cfg file as a starter can't be used anymore. - At this point, SELinux is best left off. Set 'selinux=0 enforcing=0' as kernel flags. Otherwise SELinux is on, and things like rpm will generate an endless stream of warnings. - At the end of the install, Fedora wouldn't e hject my CD. Minor annoyance. BUGS ==== rsync - CRITICAL ---------------- Trying to rsync an NFS mounted directory to a usb flash drive. The same process worked fine on the same box under Fedora1, and still works on a Fedora1 box next to this one. The output of rsync is: building file list ... done rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (8 bytes read so far) rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(342) code 12 is a memory error. If I try to sync a small amount of files things work as expected, but when I attempt the rsync with the full set (approx. 300Mb), it crashes. I am also seeing rsync problems trying to rsync some files from /etc in a central server to this box: /etc/cron.hourly/etc_sync: unexpected tag 102 rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(315) unexpected tag 102 rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(315) unexpected tag 102 rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(315) This etc_sync script runs to multiple hosts, and the only one giving error messages is the Fedora2 one. We use rsync for a LOT of internal things daily, so if there really is an rsync problem in Fedora2, this is an absolute showstopper for us. system-config-users ------------------- This simply crashes instantly: root at planck[/etc]# system-config-users ** (system-config-users.py:8462): WARNING **: entry is incorrectly formatted ** (system-config-users.py:8462): WARNING **: entry is incorrectly formatted ** (system-config-users.py:8462): WARNING **: entry is incorrectly formatted ** (system-config-users.py:8462): WARNING **: entry is incorrectly formatted (system-config-users.py:8462): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gvaluearray.c: line 42 (g_value_array_get_nth): assertion `value_array != NULL' failed ** ERROR **: file user.c: line 658 (merge_ent_array_duplicates): should not be reached aborting... /usr/share/system-config-users/system-config-users: line 4: 8462 Aborted /usr/bin/python2 /usr/share/system-config-users/system-config-users.py OpenOffice ---------- It simply won't start. The splash screen comes up, and when the progress bar finishes, it just stays there. I tried removing the user old .openoffice directory, but this did not help. LVM manager ----------- It tries to come on always during boot (I didn't configure it), and it fails. It's just an annoyance to see, since it doesn't seem to cause problems otherwise. MessageBus ---------- The bootup message is [OK], but at shutdown it gives a [FAILED]. I don't really know if it's a problem or not. Thanks for any feedback, Fernando. From silverhead at comcast.net Sat May 15 20:22:42 2004 From: silverhead at comcast.net (James W. Bennett) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:22:42 -0500 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <40A6700D.6030102@insight.rr.com> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> <40A6700D.6030102@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084652562.2120.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> For your information KDE was a desktop before gnome was even conceived. On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 14:31, Jim Cornette wrote: > jim tate wrote: > > Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one > > choice of linux users. > > I've used GNOME since RHL 5.2. KDE was added later. I used KDE first > when Mandrake was an RHL 5.2 distro with KDE added. I played around with > KDE for awhile, then switched back to RHL. > > I don't know what survey the above statement is based upon. Redhat added > KDE as a choice. GNOME and other desktops were before KDE. > > I rarely use KDE, but install it as a failsafe and for different > choices. I don't dislike KDE. I just feel more comfortable with GNOME. > > Having an option to choose one or the other is my preferred option. I > can understand if streamlining products to less choice is a corporate > strategy. They might have a better grasp on the common used. > > > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583814,00.asp > > > > I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE > > as a optional install in Fedora2. > > Every time Redhat makes a move, it's counter to the majority of > > the linux community. I am for them making money and staying > > in business, but WOW the way they go about it. > > > > Jim Tate > > > > > > > -- > What happened last night can happen again. -- James W. Bennett From sekula at mit.edu Sat May 15 20:23:08 2004 From: sekula at mit.edu (Stephen Sekula) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:23:08 -0400 Subject: openoffice.org-1.1.1-3 and oopadmin (spadmin) In-Reply-To: <40A57D0D.7020104@earthlink.net> References: <20040514210711.4fa79f71@papa> <40A57D0D.7020104@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040515162308.6572554b@papa> Hi Gerry, Thanks for the info -- I suspected this was an easy one, and appreciate the help. Cheers, Steve From jos at xos.nl Sat May 15 20:24:48 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:24:48 +0200 Subject: Some problems with FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <40A679F1.5090302@colorado.edu>; from fperez@colorado.edu on Sat, May 15, 2004 at 02:13:37PM -0600 References: <40A679F1.5090302@colorado.edu> Message-ID: <20040515222448.A12238@xos037.xos.nl> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 02:13:37PM -0600, Fernando Perez wrote: > I'd like to report some issues with a recent install of FC2T3 which I haven't > found on the list or in bugzilla yet. If they are confirmed, I can go ahead > and file bugzilla reports for them. Well, as FC2 final is ready now, better confirm with FC2 final after it has become available, before filing the bugs. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From shugal at gmx.de Sat May 15 20:29:23 2004 From: shugal at gmx.de (Martin Stricker) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:29:23 +0200 Subject: final release References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <65023.65.40.71.237.1084646657.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <40A67DA3.2898AB1@gmx.de> William Hooper wrote: > Which means we should go back to the days of not pre-announcing > release dates. Releases always slip and there will always be people > disappointed. :-) Absolutely! When it's ready! :-) Best regards, Martin Stricker -- Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/ Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/ Red Hat Linux 9 for low memory: http://www.rule-project.org/ Registered Linux user #210635: http://counter.li.org/ From shrek-m at gmx.de Sat May 15 21:04:03 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 23:04:03 +0200 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <6.0.2.0.2.20040515144600.02a4ca00@pop.sao.terra.com.br> References: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> <40A3F5B2.8010303@earthlink.net> <40A42779.8010102@insight.rr.com> <6.0.2.0.2.20040515134209.02a45950@pop.sao.terra.com.br> <40A651A1.30602@gmx.de> <6.0.2.0.2.20040515144600.02a4ca00@pop.sao.terra.com.br> Message-ID: <40A685C3.3060505@gmx.de> Marco Bicca wrote: > At 19:21 05-15-2004 +0200, you wrote: > > Ok .. here is my setup: > > 2 120GB Harddrives on a Promise Controller as HDE and HDG > > I have Fedora on HDE and WinXP on HDG > > If I do not hide the partitions under HDE I couldn't boot to WinXP > (Don't know why) windows set the priority in a physical/filesystem mixture. afair: the first hd, first primary partition, first ntfs partition is C: the second hd, first primary partition, first ntfs partition is D: i can not remeber how windows is setting the priority with fat-vfat-partitions and scsi/ide mixture could it be that win-xp is seeing now the partitions created by anaconda, as the result the boot.ini is misconfigured and XP is trying to boot from the wrong disk/partition eg. hde1 instead hdg1 ? can you show us your c:\boot.ini ? thanks afair: multi(0) = 1. controller disk(0) = 1. ide-hd rdisk(0) = 1. scsi-hd partition(1) = 1. partition > The partition that I have on HDG is NTFS, after I did that change it's > working beautifully ... > > I don't have any extended partitions on any hard drive all partitions > are primary I have two partitions on HDE unhide(hd0,0)(hd0,1) = XP is unbootable because XP can see this disk/partitions and the boot.ini is fault ? hide = XP is bootable because the boot.ini is ok > and one partition on HDG. which should be in your boot.ini surely the first hd, first primary-bootable-ntfs-partition evtl. multi(1) ? ---- c:\boot.ini [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect ---- > HDE > / - ext3 - primary > swap - primary > HDG > ntfs - primary > > Let me know if you need anything else :) > Thanks, > >> Marco Bicca wrote: >> >>> I have an installation with Windows XP and Fedora Core 2 Test 3 and >>> my Windows option inside grub looks like: >>> >>> rootnoverify (hd1,0) >>> unhide (hd1,0) >>> hide (hd0,0) >>> hide (hd0,1) >>> makeactive >>> chainloader 1+ >> >> >> >> what would happen if you unhide (hd0,0) (hd0,1) >> can you boot into xp ? >> >> do you have an extented partition on hda or 2 primaries ? >> do you have only 1 primary on hdb for xp ? >> >> >> my w2k-prof boot.ini under vmware on sda1 >> ---- >> c:\boot.ini >> [boot loader] >> timeout=30 >> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT >> [operating systems] >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 >> Professional" /fastdetect >> ---- > -- shrek-m From davej at redhat.com Sat May 15 20:54:33 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 21:54:33 +0100 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <1084631942.27622.467.camel@pc> References: <200405141543.i4EFgxAX006845@mx3.redhat.com> <1084559830.30907.21.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <1084631942.27622.467.camel@pc> Message-ID: <1084654473.2064.31.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 15:39, Laurent GUERBY wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 20:37, Dave Jones wrote: > > The current SuSE kernel has just under 1,000 patches (no exaggeration). > I'm curious on how you're counting. I installed SuSE 9.1 on my laptop > (my other machine is running FC1, I previously tried FC2t1 and FC2t3 and > filed a few bugzilla for my laptop). I'm not too familiar with SuSE SRPM > (having followed Red Hat for a few years) but it looks like patches are > in files like patches.xxx.tar.bz2, when I count files for all the xxx > tarballs in kernel-source-2.6.4-54.5 I find 485, about 100 seems > trivially not relevant for FC2 comparison x86/amd64 (ppc, s390, uml, > various helper scripts, selection of patches from > 2.6.4 vanilla > kernel). Grabbing the 'kernel of the day' from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/kernel-of-the-day/i386/kernel-source-2.6.5-15.12.src.rpm You'll find they're currently up to 1031 patches. > The remaining number is of course still big but the interesting > thing will be wether the number goes toward zero when future 2.6 kernel > are released. Doubtful. As you see above, they had 485 patches with a 2.6.4 kernel, and after rebasing to 2.6.5, they somehow ended up with over twice as many patches. (Likely some of the new patches are again, taken from post 2.6.5 -bk snapshots, but that's still a hell of a growth problem they have there) > I'm not following LKML or bitkeeper, so I don't know > if these patches get submitted upstream. A lot of the stuff they've applied is very likely not to get included in 2.6, or even 2.7 when it opens without significant rewriting. Dave From davej at redhat.com Sat May 15 21:27:39 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:27:39 +0100 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405151458.i4FEwM2W001203@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200405151458.i4FEwM2W001203@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084656459.4222.3.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 15:58, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > Hopefully Microsoft doesn't follow this list, > comments like that regarding the kernel, or better yet, "Sadly the code > isn't as great." By David Jones, is fodder for the Microsoft propaganda > machine. I don't think it's any surprise to anyone that not all code is perfect, be that code in opensource projects or closed source projects. The big difference is code being part of an open project is subject to scrutiny (and potentially, improvement) by anyone. If Microsoft has some code in their products that they aren't particularly proud of, no-one will ever know, nor be able to do anything about it. Dave From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat May 15 21:33:50 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 17:33:50 -0400 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> Message-ID: <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 02:52:42PM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>I still feel uncomfortable with p2p transfers. Also, I don't like the > > > You shouldn't. The integrity is asserted by the transport layer, you shall > of course check digital signatures to assert you're downloading the genuine > thing (if you're paranoid that way, I personally don't bother to check at > this yellow-green threat level). I was thinking in reference to someone posting about a high fragmentation level on a bittorrent acquired iso. I was also thinking that bittorrent used bits and pieces of files available. I never thought about tcp/ip delivering packets. I assumed that the files on mirrors would be streamed consecutively. (keeps stream of data first to last on file being downloaded.) Having a pool of computers grabbing some info from one user and some more bits from another source, then another source seems a little too open for foul play. I'm not so paranoid that I'd need to digitally verify data from the mirrors hosting Fedora. Thanks for pointing out that this could be spoofed also. I felt a false level of security, safer (IMHO), but not super secure. > > >>idea of getting the download in fragments and then reconstructed. I > > > TCP/IP does that, too. Are you uncomfortable with reading this mail as well? Thanks for pointing out the packets from tcp/ip. I am not uncomfortable getting mail, etc. (yet) > > >>would rather get transfers from mirrors with a pretty good reputation, >>instead of a bits and pieces download and reconstructed files. > > > If you want reputation tracking, use digital signatures to validate authenticity. > Anything else is easily fakeable. Sounds like a wise practice. > > >>>Personally, I usually grab a copy via bittorrent and then give it to our >>>local mirror. > > > I personally much prefer to torrent, and leave the download session open for > at least a day, just to be a good bittorrentcitizen. > > I only use http/ftp mirrors for those more braindead distributions who're not > into the wonders of P2P yet (hello? Debian? what gives?). > > Jim From maestronn at wowway.com Sat May 15 21:37:22 2004 From: maestronn at wowway.com (D James) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 17:37:22 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40A68D92.4060401@wowway.com> Mark Fonnemann wrote: >i believe you need to install the RealPlayer8 rpm and then you add the >additional RealPlayer9 codecs add-on. the rpnp.so plugin can be found in the >RealPlayer8 rpm. i just recently installed and this was the method i used. >perhaps, a complete RealPlay9 package exists but as of very recently, to the >best of my knowledge, it didn't. i guess linux (unix) isn't a priority for >Real, Inc. maybe someday we linux users won't be treated as second class >citizens anymore... > >mark. :-) > > > Actually, there is are RealPlayer for linux with mozilla plugin at www.helixcommunity.org It you don't mind using the nightly build you can download it now or else you'll have to wait until 5/18 for the alpha release. The more users and feedback the better the product. From maxer1 at xmission.com Sat May 15 21:38:05 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:38:05 -0600 Subject: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release Message-ID: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> So what are we saying now with FC2. I'm reading that FC2 release is out on May 18th and that on or about May 18th RedHat Desktop is available? Is FC2 release RedHat Desktop? RaXeT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdow at earthlink.net Sat May 15 21:38:15 2004 From: jdow at earthlink.net (jdow) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:38:15 -0700 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? References: <200405151458.i4FEwM2W001203@mx1.redhat.com> <1084656459.4222.3.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <002a01c43ac4$ee3ad2d0$1225a8c0@kittycat> From: "Dave Jones" > On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 15:58, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > > > Hopefully Microsoft doesn't follow this list, > > comments like that regarding the kernel, or better yet, "Sadly the code > > isn't as great." By David Jones, is fodder for the Microsoft propaganda > > machine. > > I don't think it's any surprise to anyone that not all code is perfect, > be that code in opensource projects or closed source projects. > The big difference is code being part of an open project is subject to > scrutiny (and potentially, improvement) by anyone. > If Microsoft has some code in their products that they aren't > particularly proud of, no-one will ever know, nor be able to do anything > about it. I understand from two sources, one "public but not my Microsoft's choice" and the other private (my partner has XP et subs source access) that the source code is "nasty looking" in many places. Wasn't that the general consensus of those who saw the source code that a cracker had managed liberate from Microsoft? {^_^} Joanne, jdow at earthlink.net From davej at redhat.com Sat May 15 21:46:09 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:46:09 +0100 Subject: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release In-Reply-To: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> References: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <1084657569.5746.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 22:38, raxet wrote: > So what are we saying now with FC2. I?m reading that FC2 release is > out on May 18th and that on or about May 18th RedHat Desktop is > available? > Is FC2 release RedHat Desktop? No. These two products have *nothing* to do with each other. The desktop product is based on RHEL3. Dave From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat May 15 21:54:52 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 17:54:52 -0400 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <1084652562.2120.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> <40A6700D.6030102@insight.rr.com> <1084652562.2120.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A691AC.1050900@insight.rr.com> James W. Bennett wrote: > For your information KDE was a desktop before gnome was even conceived. Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that GNOME was developed for much the same reason that xfree86 and xorg exist recently. QT tools? I guess redhat not having KDE, then having it later doesn't mean GNOME was older than KDE. It is good that the qt issue is pretty well over for the developers. Jim > On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 14:31, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>jim tate wrote: >> >>>Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one >>>choice of linux users. >> >>I've used GNOME since RHL 5.2. KDE was added later. I used KDE first >>when Mandrake was an RHL 5.2 distro with KDE added. I played around with >>KDE for awhile, then switched back to RHL. >> >>I don't know what survey the above statement is based upon. Redhat added >>KDE as a choice. GNOME and other desktops were before KDE. >> >>I rarely use KDE, but install it as a failsafe and for different >>choices. I don't dislike KDE. I just feel more comfortable with GNOME. >> >>Having an option to choose one or the other is my preferred option. I >>can understand if streamlining products to less choice is a corporate >>strategy. They might have a better grasp on the common used. >> >> >>>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583814,00.asp >>> >>>I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE >>>as a optional install in Fedora2. >>>Every time Redhat makes a move, it's counter to the majority of >>>the linux community. I am for them making money and staying >>>in business, but WOW the way they go about it. >>> >>>Jim Tate >>> >>> >> >> >>-- >>What happened last night can happen again. -- What happened last night can happen again. From warlock_ba at hotmail.com Sat May 15 22:03:00 2004 From: warlock_ba at hotmail.com (Andrei Botoaca) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 01:03:00 +0300 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084658580.4168.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> I want to correct you! There is a RP9 version!! And it can be found through the links in the www.xinehq.de homepage! Greets On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 08:06, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > jim wrote: > >I have just installed Realplayer9 and it does not have a rpnp.so to drag > >into /mozilla/plugins. > >Does anyone know what the name of the file you drag into Mozilla/plugins ? > > i believe you need to install the RealPlayer8 rpm and then you add the > additional RealPlayer9 codecs add-on. the rpnp.so plugin can be found in the > RealPlayer8 rpm. i just recently installed and this was the method i used. > perhaps, a complete RealPlay9 package exists but as of very recently, to the > best of my knowledge, it didn't. i guess linux (unix) isn't a priority for > Real, Inc. maybe someday we linux users won't be treated as second class > citizens anymore... > > mark. :-) > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. > http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ > From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 15 22:07:48 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 18:07:48 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <1084658580.4168.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084658580.4168.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405151807.48896.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 15 May 2004 18:03, Andrei Botoaca wrote: >I want to correct you! There is a RP9 version!! And it can be found >through the links in the www.xinehq.de homepage! > Unforch, I couldn't find the link for rp9 there. Am I going blind in my old age? [...] -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From jos at xos.nl Sat May 15 22:18:22 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 00:18:22 +0200 Subject: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release In-Reply-To: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank>; from maxer1@xmission.com on Sat, May 15, 2004 at 03:38:05PM -0600 References: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <20040516001822.A12487@xos037.xos.nl> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 03:38:05PM -0600, raxet wrote: > So what are we saying now with FC2. I'm reading that FC2 release is out on > May 18th and that on or about May 18th RedHat Desktop is available? > > Is FC2 release RedHat Desktop? No. Red Hat Desktop (or whatever its formal title is) is RHEL3-based (RHEL 3 update 2 with some extra - non-Open Source - packages, like Acrobat, RealPlayer, ICA client, flash plugin, Agfa fonta, etc.). -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From silverhead at comcast.net Sat May 15 23:18:05 2004 From: silverhead at comcast.net (James W. Bennett) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 18:18:05 -0500 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <40A691AC.1050900@insight.rr.com> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> <40A6700D.6030102@insight.rr.com> <1084652562.2120.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A691AC.1050900@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084663085.2120.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> KDE was there but Redhat would not except the QT license as it stood. Thereby got involved in the Gnome desktop because of the QT license. QT later change to the CPL free license and and the rest is history. From my personal point of view I think that KDE is far more configurable than Gnome. Is far easier too download compile and install and is my choice of desktop. But as I said is my choice, not everyones. On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 16:54, Jim Cornette wrote: > James W. Bennett wrote: > > For your information KDE was a desktop before gnome was even conceived. > > Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that GNOME was developed for much > the same reason that xfree86 and xorg exist recently. > > QT tools? I guess redhat not having KDE, then having it later doesn't > mean GNOME was older than KDE. It is good that the qt issue is pretty > well over for the developers. > > Jim > > > > On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 14:31, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >>jim tate wrote: > >> > >>>Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one > >>>choice of linux users. > >> > >>I've used GNOME since RHL 5.2. KDE was added later. I used KDE first > >>when Mandrake was an RHL 5.2 distro with KDE added. I played around with > >>KDE for awhile, then switched back to RHL. > >> > >>I don't know what survey the above statement is based upon. Redhat added > >>KDE as a choice. GNOME and other desktops were before KDE. > >> > >>I rarely use KDE, but install it as a failsafe and for different > >>choices. I don't dislike KDE. I just feel more comfortable with GNOME. > >> > >>Having an option to choose one or the other is my preferred option. I > >>can understand if streamlining products to less choice is a corporate > >>strategy. They might have a better grasp on the common used. > >> > >> > >>>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1583814,00.asp > >>> > >>>I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE > >>>as a optional install in Fedora2. > >>>Every time Redhat makes a move, it's counter to the majority of > >>>the linux community. I am for them making money and staying > >>>in business, but WOW the way they go about it. > >>> > >>>Jim Tate > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>What happened last night can happen again. > > > -- > What happened last night can happen again. -- James W. Bennett From www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br Sat May 15 23:24:03 2004 From: www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br (Marco Bicca) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:24:03 -0300 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <40A685C3.3060505@gmx.de> References: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> <40A3F5B2.8010303@earthlink.net> <40A42779.8010102@insight.rr.com> <6.0.2.0.2.20040515134209.02a45950@pop.sao.terra.com.br> <40A651A1.30602@gmx.de> <6.0.2.0.2.20040515144600.02a4ca00@pop.sao.terra.com.br> <40A685C3.3060505@gmx.de> Message-ID: <6.0.2.0.2.20040515202126.02a651d8@pop.sao.terra.com.br> At 23:04 05-15-2004 +0200, you wrote: No ... I think you are misunderstood ... :-) I am not having problems booting XP .. I was helping another guy saying which, configuration I had setup here .... It's sure that boot.ini can mess up some stuff .. anyways, my boot.ini is: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect That's why I am doing some weird stuff on the grub.conf file :) thanks, >Marco Bicca wrote: > >>At 19:21 05-15-2004 +0200, you wrote: >> >>Ok .. here is my setup: >> >>2 120GB Harddrives on a Promise Controller as HDE and HDG >> >>I have Fedora on HDE and WinXP on HDG >> >>If I do not hide the partitions under HDE I couldn't boot to WinXP (Don't >>know why) > > >windows set the priority in a physical/filesystem mixture. >afair: >the first hd, first primary partition, first ntfs partition is C: >the second hd, first primary partition, first ntfs partition is D: >i can not remeber how windows is setting the priority with >fat-vfat-partitions and scsi/ide mixture > > >could it be that win-xp is seeing now the partitions created by anaconda, >as the result the boot.ini is misconfigured >and XP is trying to boot from the wrong disk/partition eg. hde1 >instead hdg1 ? > > >can you show us your c:\boot.ini ? >thanks > >afair: >multi(0) = 1. controller >disk(0) = 1. ide-hd >rdisk(0) = 1. scsi-hd >partition(1) = 1. partition > > > >>The partition that I have on HDG is NTFS, after I did that change it's >>working beautifully ... >> >>I don't have any extended partitions on any hard drive all partitions are >>primary I have two partitions on HDE > > >unhide(hd0,0)(hd0,1) = XP is unbootable > because XP can see this disk/partitions and the boot.ini is fault ? >hide = XP is bootable > because the boot.ini is ok > >>and one partition on HDG. > >which should be in your boot.ini surely the first hd, first >primary-bootable-ntfs-partition > >evtl. multi(1) ? >---- >c:\boot.ini >[boot loader] >timeout=30 >default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS >[operating systems] >multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >Professional" /fastdetect >---- > > >>HDE >>/ - ext3 - primary >>swap - primary >>HDG >>ntfs - primary >> >>Let me know if you need anything else :) >>Thanks, >> >>>Marco Bicca wrote: >>> >>>>I have an installation with Windows XP and Fedora Core 2 Test 3 and my >>>>Windows option inside grub looks like: >>>> >>>>rootnoverify (hd1,0) >>>>unhide (hd1,0) >>>>hide (hd0,0) >>>>hide (hd0,1) >>>>makeactive >>>>chainloader 1+ >>> >>> >>> >>>what would happen if you unhide (hd0,0) (hd0,1) >>>can you boot into xp ? >>> >>>do you have an extented partition on hda or 2 primaries ? >>>do you have only 1 primary on hdb for xp ? >>> >>> >>>my w2k-prof boot.ini under vmware on sda1 >>>---- >>>c:\boot.ini >>>[boot loader] >>>timeout=30 >>>default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT >>>[operating systems] >>>multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 >>>Professional" /fastdetect >>>---- > > >-- >shrek-m > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list ___ Marco Bicca Network Security Engineer eMail: mbicca at terra.com.br iCq: 3198441 YiM: twilightdrummer MsNm: hadeswarden at hotmail.com Linux registered user: 298447 PgP Key @ http://mbicca.securesolution.com.br/pgp/marco_bicca.asc In the year of the new century and nine months, From the sky will come a great King of Terror... The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city..." In the city of york there will be a great collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb, third big war will begin when the big city is burning" NOSTRADAMUS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was helping another guy > saying which, configuration I had setup here .... i know that you have no problems, i try to understand the xp-boot-problem. thanks :-) -- shrek-m From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat May 15 18:19:21 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:19:21 +0200 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405151458.i4FEwM2W001203@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200405151458.i4FEwM2W001203@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084645157.27224.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 15/05/2004 ? 16:58, Bruce P. Morin a ?crit : > Listen, > > I completely understand that the project is backed by RedHat and is > community driven. Debian is also community driven and they have three paths, > stable, testing and sid. With each of them, I have gotten most if not all > common hardware to work without much effort, depending on the path. > > What I am saying here is that Firewire is not uncommon minority hardware, > and for a stable release of anything not to support it is poor. How long has > it been available?? > You should forward this mail to the lkml. > As for working for 0 dollars well, I guess if you want something that works > out of the box, then Microsoft is the way to go. The old saying goes "You > get what you pay for." Hopefully Microsoft doesn't follow this list, > comments like that regarding the kernel, or better yet, "Sadly the code > isn't as great." By David Jones, is fodder for the Microsoft propaganda > machine. > > Another Love it or leave it attitude: > Yes. Fedora have objectives and finite ressources. You are not agree with Fedora's objectives. So pick another distribution or fork Fedora. Anyway, I hope Linux hackers will fix this issue and then you'll be back. > "If Fedora doesn't fit your needs, then use another distribution" > > Critical comments, product comparisons, etc, help build better software. > Unfortunately after looking at the amount of flames I received as well as > the many others who bring forth Fedora's shortcomings only to receive such > remarks really demonstrate why most users will NEVER have Linux on their > desktop. > Fedora (and RedHat) is not GNU/Linux. RedHat/Fedora is only a small part of the GNU/Linux community. PS : sorry for my poor english. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From elliott at wilcoxon.org Sun May 16 03:22:06 2004 From: elliott at wilcoxon.org (Elliott Wilcoxon) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:22:06 -0500 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <40A6DE5D.1010002@wilcoxon.org> Then read up on p2p, until knowledge removes your fear. If bittorrent didn't result in perfect copies being transferred, no one would find it useful, just like all p2p. Should SHA1 be rendered useless and fakes permeate swarms, bittorrent will become less reliable, but until then, it's all good. Elliott Wilcoxon Jim Cornette wrote: > Having a pool of computers grabbing some info from one user and some > more bits from another source, then another source seems a little too > open for foul play. From mitch48 at sbcglobal.net Sun May 16 05:55:52 2004 From: mitch48 at sbcglobal.net (Tom Mitchell) Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:55:52 -0700 Subject: upgrade from fc1 to fc2-test3 /dev not accessible In-Reply-To: <200405112243.i4BMhZlU007396@rgmgw2.us.oracle.com> References: <200405112243.i4BMhZlU007396@rgmgw2.us.oracle.com> Message-ID: <20040516055552.GC10428@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 03:43:34PM -0700, donald raikes wrote: > Hi all, > I just did an upgrade from fc1 to fc2 test3 on my compaq deskpro-en > with 512mb ram and 60gb drive. Now when I try to play any .wav > files using the play command, I get /dev/dsp not found. The default audio library and model has changed. See /dev/snd and ALSA in the test archives. alsactl, alsamixer, amixer,.... Also /usr/bin/system-config-soundcard If you install from the soon to be released FC2 final disks this may clear up. Others will notice that the mouse configuration/device has changed. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage. From vslim at insightbb.com Sun May 16 06:09:57 2004 From: vslim at insightbb.com (slim) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 01:09:57 -0500 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <200405151807.48896.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084658580.4168.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405151807.48896.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1084687797.13998.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/713146/com/RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4.i386.rpm.html On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 17:07, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 15 May 2004 18:03, Andrei Botoaca wrote: > >I want to correct you! There is a RP9 version!! And it can be found > >through the links in the www.xinehq.de homepage! > > > Unforch, I couldn't find the link for rp9 there. Am I going blind in > my old age? > > [...] > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly > Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message > by Gene Heskett are: > Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. > From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 16 08:50:39 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:50:39 +0800 Subject: final release In-Reply-To: <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> Message-ID: <1084697439.27053.28.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 16:37, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 03:57:23PM +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > > 1) Because the mirrors are "tiered". In other words, there are a few > > mirrors who get the bits directly from Red Hat, then there are other > > mirrors who get the bits from those who got the bits from Red Hat. If > > All is good and well for those who use mirrors. > > > the first tier mirrors opened public downloads early, then the second > > group of mirrors would not be able to get the bits as they had to fight > > for connections. Thus everyone would be complaining that they could not > > get the bits. > > This isn't applicable for torrents and freecache. There's no point not to > open those once you have a master, and an initial seed community. The mirror admins have a "gentlemen's agreement" not to release until the official release date. This includes the torrents. The initial seed community you speak of is basically the mirrors. They are using their bandwidth to synch up right now. When the release is announced they will all open (nearly) simultaneously. You actually got freecache to work? I saw it mentioned as a method of slashdot-proofing a website, and that very day freecache itself was slashdotted all to hell and gone. -- Chris Kloiber From www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br Sun May 16 09:21:24 2004 From: www.mbicca.linux.com at terra.com.br (Marco Bicca) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 06:21:24 -0300 Subject: Unable to boot on WinXP after Fedora Core 2 test3 install In-Reply-To: <40A6B961.7020002@gmx.de> References: <40A3F2AB.1030803@insight.rr.com> <40A3F5B2.8010303@earthlink.net> <40A42779.8010102@insight.rr.com> <6.0.2.0.2.20040515134209.02a45950@pop.sao.terra.com.br> <40A651A1.30602@gmx.de> <6.0.2.0.2.20040515144600.02a4ca00@pop.sao.terra.com.br> <40A685C3.3060505@gmx.de> <6.0.2.0.2.20040515202126.02a651d8@pop.sao.terra.com.br> <40A6B961.7020002@gmx.de> Message-ID: <6.0.2.0.2.20040516062043.029f4038@pop.sao.terra.com.br> At 02:44 05-16-2004 +0200, you wrote: Ops, sorry :-( ... What kinda of setup you have? You still have problems? Thanks, >>At 23:04 05-15-2004 +0200, you wrote: >> >>No ... I think you are misunderstood ... :-) >> >>I am not having problems booting XP .. I was helping another guy saying >>which, configuration I had setup here .... > > >i know that you have no problems, >i try to understand the xp-boot-problem. > >thanks :-) > >-- >shrek-m > > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list ___ Marco Bicca Network Security Engineer eMail: mbicca at terra.com.br iCq: 3198441 YiM: twilightdrummer MsNm: hadeswarden at hotmail.com Linux registered user: 298447 PgP Key @ http://mbicca.securesolution.com.br/pgp/marco_bicca.asc In the year of the new century and nine months, From the sky will come a great King of Terror... The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city..." 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Won't play any of the new DRM encrypted stuff, I'd bet. That's what, 75-80% of the new Real content being produced? (Just pulling a number out of my , I don't really have those figures.) -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 16 09:47:15 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:47:15 +0800 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 05:33, Jim Cornette wrote: > I was thinking in reference to someone posting about a high > fragmentation level on a bittorrent acquired iso. I was also thinking > that bittorrent used bits and pieces of files available. I never thought > about tcp/ip delivering packets. I assumed that the files on mirrors > would be streamed consecutively. (keeps stream of data first to last on > file being downloaded.) This can be overcome in most BT clients by pre-allocating the space for the download at the beginning. > Having a pool of computers grabbing some info from one user and some > more bits from another source, then another source seems a little too > open for foul play. Not a problem, each piece is hashed and checked. Anyone feeding you more than a few bad chunks (accidents do happen) gets banned (and you accept no more from them). Only possibility I can see for foul play is if the original seed was a trojan. And that can be checked for with public md5sums, which already exist. (Ie: Downloading things from suprnova.org is potentially hazardous, especially to Windows systems.) -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 16 09:48:56 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:48:56 +0800 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <40A68D92.4060401@wowway.com> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <40A68D92.4060401@wowway.com> Message-ID: <1084700936.27053.56.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 05:37, D James wrote: > Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > >i believe you need to install the RealPlayer8 rpm and then you add the > >additional RealPlayer9 codecs add-on. the rpnp.so plugin can be found in the > >RealPlayer8 rpm. i just recently installed and this was the method i used. > >perhaps, a complete RealPlay9 package exists but as of very recently, to the > >best of my knowledge, it didn't. i guess linux (unix) isn't a priority for > >Real, Inc. maybe someday we linux users won't be treated as second class > >citizens anymore... > > > >mark. :-) > > > > > > > Actually, there is are RealPlayer for linux with mozilla plugin at > www.helixcommunity.org It you don't mind using the nightly build you > can download it now or else you'll have to wait until 5/18 for the alpha > release. The more users and feedback the better the product. Have they fixed their packaging yet? Admittedly a long time ago since I last looked, but they put binaries in /home/$USER IIRC. Blech. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 16 09:55:27 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:55:27 +0800 Subject: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release In-Reply-To: <20040516001822.A12487@xos037.xos.nl> References: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> <20040516001822.A12487@xos037.xos.nl> Message-ID: <1084701327.27053.62.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 06:18, Jos Vos wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 03:38:05PM -0600, raxet wrote: > > > So what are we saying now with FC2. I'm reading that FC2 release is out on > > May 18th and that on or about May 18th RedHat Desktop is available? > > > > Is FC2 release RedHat Desktop? > > No. Red Hat Desktop (or whatever its formal title is) is RHEL3-based > (RHEL 3 update 2 with some extra - non-Open Source - packages, like > Acrobat, RealPlayer, ICA client, flash plugin, Agfa fonta, etc.). Those are *NOT* on the main distribution CD's, they are on the additional cd I mentioned earlier, IIRC. > > -- > -- Jos Vos > -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 > -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 -- Chris Kloiber From jos at xos.nl Sun May 16 10:05:13 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:05:13 +0200 Subject: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release In-Reply-To: <1084701327.27053.62.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com>; from ckloiber@ckloiber.com on Sun, May 16, 2004 at 05:55:27PM +0800 References: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> <20040516001822.A12487@xos037.xos.nl> <1084701327.27053.62.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <20040516120513.A23205@xos037.xos.nl> On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 05:55:27PM +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > No. Red Hat Desktop (or whatever its formal title is) is RHEL3-based > > (RHEL 3 update 2 with some extra - non-Open Source - packages, like > > Acrobat, RealPlayer, ICA client, flash plugin, Agfa fonta, etc.). > > Those are *NOT* on the main distribution CD's, they are on the > additional cd I mentioned earlier, IIRC. Indeed, because they are not Open Source, but still, these are the issues RH mentions themselves in their statements about RHEL DT. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 16 10:15:20 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:15:20 +0800 Subject: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release In-Reply-To: <20040516120513.A23205@xos037.xos.nl> References: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> <20040516001822.A12487@xos037.xos.nl> <1084701327.27053.62.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <20040516120513.A23205@xos037.xos.nl> Message-ID: <1084702519.27053.79.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:05, Jos Vos wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 05:55:27PM +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > > > No. Red Hat Desktop (or whatever its formal title is) is RHEL3-based > > > (RHEL 3 update 2 with some extra - non-Open Source - packages, like > > > Acrobat, RealPlayer, ICA client, flash plugin, Agfa fonta, etc.). > > > > Those are *NOT* on the main distribution CD's, they are on the > > additional cd I mentioned earlier, IIRC. > > Indeed, because they are not Open Source, but still, these are the > issues RH mentions themselves in their statements about RHEL DT. Just wanted to point out that we haven't gone over to the dark side completely. -- Chris Kloiber From jos at xos.nl Sun May 16 10:39:30 2004 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:39:30 +0200 Subject: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release In-Reply-To: <1084702519.27053.79.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com>; from ckloiber@ckloiber.com on Sun, May 16, 2004 at 06:15:20PM +0800 References: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> <20040516001822.A12487@xos037.xos.nl> <1084701327.27053.62.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <20040516120513.A23205@xos037.xos.nl> <1084702519.27053.79.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <20040516123930.A23342@xos037.xos.nl> On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 06:15:20PM +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > Indeed, because they are not Open Source, but still, these are the > > issues RH mentions themselves in their statements about RHEL DT. > > Just wanted to point out that we haven't gone over to the dark side > completely. Agreed. I think RH is right pointing out that some of these things are today of a high value, to make the step to Linux on the desktop more feasible for more people (speaking of our my experience with my own customers). We just have to keep trying to make an as-full-Open-Source-as-possible distro for desktop use. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sun May 16 12:01:59 2004 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:01:59 +0100 Subject: upgrade from fc1 to fc2-test3 /dev not accessible In-Reply-To: <20040516055552.GC10428@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> References: <200405112243.i4BMhZlU007396@rgmgw2.us.oracle.com> <20040516055552.GC10428@xtl1.xtl.tenegg.com> Message-ID: <40A75837.5030606@mesias.co.uk> Tom > If you install from the soon to be released FC2 final > disks this may clear up. I had tried to upgrade FC1 to FC2 test and found that many things did not work perfectly. I later did a clean install of FC2 test3 which was much more successful. Most people seem to recommend clean installs rather than upgrading the test releases. -Cam From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun May 16 12:41:16 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 07:41:16 -0500 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <1084687797.13998.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084658580.4168.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405151807.48896.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1084687797.13998.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A7616C.2030504@sbcglobal.net> slim wrote: >http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/713146/com/RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4.i386.rpm.html > > >On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 17:07, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >>On Saturday 15 May 2004 18:03, Andrei Botoaca wrote: >> >> >>>I want to correct you! There is a RP9 version!! And it can be found >>>through the links in the www.xinehq.de homepage! >>> >>> >>> >>Unforch, I couldn't find the link for rp9 there. Am I going blind in >>my old age? >> >>[...] >> >>-- >>Cheers, Gene >>"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >>-Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly >>Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message >>by Gene Heskett are: >>Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. >> >> >> > > > > Did you install this rp9 and did it run FedTest3? Jim Tate From jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com Sun May 16 12:55:23 2004 From: jamesbond_422 at hotmail.com (James Bond) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:55:23 +0000 Subject: fedora test3 Message-ID: Hi, I have updated apt on Fedora core2 test3 server. I can noe execute the apt-get command but nothing happens. My apt directory structure looks as follows : # ls -al /etc/apt total 32 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Mar 22 2003 preferences -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 697 Nov 6 2003 apt.conf.rpmsave -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 127 Nov 21 11:56 sources.list -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 21 12:10 vendors.list -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 398 Mar 29 16:20 rpmpriorities drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 9 15:39 sources.list.d drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 16 13:35 apt.conf.d drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 16 13:35 gpg drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 16 13:35 vendors.list.d -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 633 May 16 13:43 apt.conf There are many new files and directories, whihc were noe there in last version of apt-get. I have no idea which files are being used by apt!! I can't even see the mirrors that should be used by "apt-get update" command in /etc/apt/sources.list file. Any idea!! Jerry >From: Michael Schwendt >Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Subject: Re: fedora test3 >Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 07:44:03 +0200 > >On Sat, 15 May 2004 05:19:24 +0000, James Bond wrote: > > > Hi, > > I can't see apt package on Fedor Test3!! I think it was there on Test2. >Can > > anyone let me know has it been removed? If yes, then how can i install >it. > >http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/2/i386/RPMS.stable/ > >This one should work: > >rpm -Uvh >http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/2/i386/RPMS.stable/apt-0.5.15cnc6-0.fdr.11.1.91.i386.rpm > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE connection, FREE modem and one month's FREE line rental, plus a US or European flight when you sign up for BT Broadband! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun May 16 13:25:32 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 08:25:32 -0500 Subject: VNC server won't Start?? Message-ID: <40A76BCC.4030409@sbcglobal.net> ]# /sbin/service vncserver status Xvnc is stopped ]# /sbin/service vncserver start Starting VNC server: [ OK ] }# /sbin/service vncserver status Xvnc is stopped As you can see above, this is what I get with two different boxes, trying to run vnc, on Fedora2Test3. vnc-4.0.1.beta4.11.i386.rpm vnc-server-4.0.1.beta4.11.i386.rpm It did work okay until a update, back when, only heaven knows. Any Ideals??? Jim Tate From w.steenburg at myactv.net Sun May 16 15:37:59 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:37:59 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <1084699753.27053.36.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <20040515184355.655AB7441B@hormel.redhat.com> <20040515191140.65390.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> <20040515211818.A11972@xos037.xos.nl> <1084648971.6775.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084699753.27053.36.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <1084721879.12298.0.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> > Won't play any of the new DRM encrypted stuff, I'd bet. > That's what, 75-80% of the new Real content being produced? > > (Just pulling a number out of my , I don't really have > those figures.) Of course. Everyone knows that 82% of all statistics are made up on the spot :) From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun May 16 15:47:24 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:47:24 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <40A7616C.2030504@sbcglobal.net> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084658580.4168.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405151807.48896.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1084687797.13998.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7616C.2030504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1084722444.21547.16.camel@duergar> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:41, jim tate wrote: > Did you install this rp9 and did it run FedTest3? > > Jim Tate > Whenever I try to start rp9 in FC2T3 (or any system with 2.6 kernel with ALSA + OSS Compat) I get an error about it not being able to open the audio device. rp8 still works but it can't fullscreen so its totally useless to me. I've tried helixplayer but it simply crashes rightg when its openning any file, not very helpful... I've tried the latest milestone and nightly builds from this week with no luck what-so-ever. And for the record I have no fucking clue what a ll these fucking dist and nodist and shit packages are on their site...an rpm is cool, but not when you have to install a bunch of tarballs and install them to make it work... Real can suck my balls until they put out a 'Good' linux client **WITH** codecs opensource, cause their Linux codecs suck. Real blames the kernel for choppiness, but the real problem is a lack of dedication to programming Linux codecs. Do yourselves a favor, when you can, convert local content to another, more well-supported codec. -sb -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Am I going blind >>> in my old age? >>> >>>[...] >>> >>>-- >>>Cheers, Gene >>>"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >>>-Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>>99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly >>>Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message >>>by Gene Heskett are: >>>Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. > >Did you install this rp9 and did it run FedTest3? > >Jim Tate Me not slim, me=Gene & I'm not "slim' by 30 lbs :) gnorpm seems to have lost the ability to access the local rpm database by either db4 or db3 means. It was working a week or so ago when I finally figured out .pangorc. Something yum did? So I tried to install it with rpm, which also fails: [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# rpm -ivh RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4.i386.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libXm.so.2 is needed by RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4 Suggested resolutions: openmotif21-2.1.30-8.i386.rpm Definitely Not Okay? [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# locate libXm.so.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2.1 [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/local/lib:/usr/lib:/root/kde3.2/lib:/root/kde3.2/lib No idea why the konstruct built kde install is in there twice... [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/X11R6/lib [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# rpm -ivh RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4.i386.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libXm.so.2 is needed by RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4 Suggested resolutions: openmotif21-2.1.30-8.i386.rpm My ld.so.conf: /root/kde3.2/lib /usr/kerberos/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib /usr/lib/mysql /usr/lib/sane /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib And (to prove that rpm CAN access the database): [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# rpm -qa |grep openmotif openmotif-2.2.2-16.1 openmotif-devel-2.2.2-16.1 I note that this is NOT the same version of openmotif, but the libXm.so.2's are indeed there: [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3128144 Aug 27 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 2 12:17 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so -> libXm.so.3.0.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Nov 12 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.1 -> ../LessTif/Motif1.2/lib/libXm.so.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Nov 12 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.1.0.2 -> ../LessTif/Motif1.2/lib/libXm.so.1.0.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Nov 12 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 -> libXm.so.2.1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1927000 Aug 26 2002 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 2 12:08 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 -> libXm.so.3.0.1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2390244 Aug 27 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3.0.1 Anybody have an idea whats fubared now? Also, where (URL) is this "FedTest3"? It doesn't exist on this FC1 upgraded machine. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun May 16 15:48:42 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:48:42 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <1084721879.12298.0.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> References: <20040515184355.655AB7441B@hormel.redhat.com> <20040515191140.65390.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> <20040515211818.A11972@xos037.xos.nl> <1084648971.6775.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084699753.27053.36.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084721879.12298.0.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> Message-ID: <1084722522.21547.19.camel@duergar> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 11:37, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > > Won't play any of the new DRM encrypted stuff, I'd bet. > > That's what, 75-80% of the new Real content being produced? > > > > (Just pulling a number out of my , I don't really have > > those figures.) > > Of course. Everyone knows that 82% of all statistics are made up on the > spot :) > 100% if you ask them of our government. They legalize lying so they don't have to tell microsoft to stop... God Bless America and our Honorable Bush (*snicker*) -sb -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun May 16 15:56:17 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:56:17 -0400 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <1084663085.2120.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> <40A6700D.6030102@insight.rr.com> <1084652562.2120.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A691AC.1050900@insight.rr.com> <1084663085.2120.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084722977.21547.24.camel@duergar> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 19:18, James W. Bennett wrote: > KDE was there but Redhat would not except the QT license as it stood. > Thereby got involved in the Gnome desktop because of the QT license. QT > later change to the CPL free license and and the rest is history. From > my personal point of view I think that KDE is far more configurable than > Gnome. Is far easier too download compile and install and is my choice > of desktop. But as I said is my choice, not everyones. I used KDE from the beginning and switched to Gnome in '02 and never looked back. I found KDE to big... and compiling KDE is a BITCH exactly because of QT... QT stuff takes forever to build! Maybe people on super fast hardware don't care, but on my p3 compiling KDE might as well take a week. Honestly once I moved to Gnome I found the simplicity exactly what I want in a Desktop. I like to leave the complexity to the console. -sb -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <40A76BCC.4030409@sbcglobal.net> References: <40A76BCC.4030409@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <65170.65.40.71.237.1084723014.squirrel@65.40.71.237> jim tate said: > ]# /sbin/service vncserver status > Xvnc is stopped > ]# /sbin/service vncserver start > Starting VNC server: [ OK ] > }# /sbin/service vncserver status > Xvnc is stopped Did you edit /etc/sysconfig/vncservers? -- William Hooper From greg at gulik.org Sun May 16 16:01:34 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:01:34 -0500 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <200405161148.24740.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084687797.13998.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7616C.2030504@sbcglobal.net> <200405161148.24740.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <40A7905E.9030607@gulik.org> This works for me on FC2T3: http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/fc2-tips.php#rplayer Gene Heskett wrote: > Me not slim, me=Gene & I'm not "slim' by 30 lbs :) > > gnorpm seems to have lost the ability to access the local rpm > database by either db4 or db3 means. It was working a week or > so ago when I finally figured out .pangorc. Something yum did? > > So I tried to install it with rpm, which also fails: > > [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# rpm -ivh RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4.i386.rpm > error: Failed dependencies: > libXm.so.2 is needed by RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4 > Suggested resolutions: > openmotif21-2.1.30-8.i386.rpm > > Definitely Not Okay? > > [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# locate libXm.so.2 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2.1 > [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH > /usr/local/lib:/usr/lib:/root/kde3.2/lib:/root/kde3.2/lib > > No idea why the konstruct built kde install is in there twice... > > [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/X11R6/lib > > [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# rpm -ivh RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4.i386.rpm > error: Failed dependencies: > libXm.so.2 is needed by RealPlayer9-9.0.7.151-4 > Suggested resolutions: > openmotif21-2.1.30-8.i386.rpm > > My ld.so.conf: > /root/kde3.2/lib > /usr/kerberos/lib > /usr/X11R6/lib > /usr/local/lib > /usr/lib/qt2/lib > /usr/lib/mysql > /usr/lib/sane > /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib > > And (to prove that rpm CAN access the database): > [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# rpm -qa |grep openmotif > openmotif-2.2.2-16.1 > openmotif-devel-2.2.2-16.1 > > I note that this is NOT the same version of openmotif, but > the libXm.so.2's are indeed there: > > [root at coyote dlds-rpms]# ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3128144 Aug 27 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 2 12:17 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so -> libXm.so.3.0.1 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Nov 12 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.1 -> ../LessTif/Motif1.2/lib/libXm.so.1 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Nov 12 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.1.0.2 -> ../LessTif/Motif1.2/lib/libXm.so.1.0.2 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Nov 12 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 -> libXm.so.2.1 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1927000 Aug 26 2002 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2.1 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 2 12:08 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 -> libXm.so.3.0.1 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2390244 Aug 27 2003 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3.0.1 > > Anybody have an idea whats fubared now? > > Also, where (URL) is this "FedTest3"? It doesn't exist on this > FC1 upgraded machine. > -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg at gulik.org http://www.drivingevents.com/ From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun May 16 16:43:58 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:43:58 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <40A7905E.9030607@gulik.org> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084687797.13998.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7616C.2030504@sbcglobal.net> <200405161148.24740.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <40A7905E.9030607@gulik.org> Message-ID: <1084725837.21547.28.camel@duergar> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 12:01, Gregory Gulik wrote: > This works for me on FC2T3: > > http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/fc2-tips.php#rplayer I already have all that stuff, but rp9 still will not work. It complains: "Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it." Any thoughts? -sb -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Only possibility I can see for foul play is if the > original seed was a trojan. And that can be checked for with public > md5sums, which already exist. (Ie: Downloading things from suprnova.org > is potentially hazardous, especially to Windows systems.) > Not a problem for us though ;-) -sb > -- > Chris Kloiber > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sun May 16 16:58:06 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:58:06 -0400 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084482963.1881.191.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084576715.4263.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084589622.4263.49.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <1084726685.4026.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 15:12 +0900, Makoto Fujiwara wrote: > snip < > > I have copied vmlinuz and initd.img from boot.iso (May 12 version) on > my CD-ROM, have /etc/grub.conf lines pointing those two on /, > unplug USB CDROM-drive and reboots. > > It works. Installer screen asking language appears. > ( I did not go further from that point yet. Should I to that ? > I need CDROM drive only when upgrade I guess.) Even upgrade can be done via network, but hopefully USB problems will be fixed soon. At this point I'd wait for FC2 final and do a clean install. At least that appears to be possible without the USB CD-ROM. > > Phil> Output of lspci under FC1 would also be of interest. > > It's here: (CDROM unplugged) > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Host Bridge (rev 01) > 00:00.1 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97 Audio Controller > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Motion, Inc. SM720 Lynx3DM (rev c1) > 00:03.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 88) > 00:03.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0575 > 00:04.0 Communication controller: Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 8339 > 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX ISA Bridge (rev 01) > 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82440MX EIDE Controller > 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX USB Universal Host Controller > 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Power Management Controller > 00:09.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02) > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) > > Plugging USB CDROM drive makes no change at all for above. > I think following line is for Wireless LAN Card: > 00:03.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0575 > Following is SD memory slot, probably > 00:04.0 Communication controller: Matsushita Electric... Unknown device 8339 Should be added to your Bugzilla entry. Good luck with FC2. Phil From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun May 16 17:09:37 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 10:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040515211354.40AF6739BF@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040516170937.27590.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- On Sat, 15 May 2004 12:22:51 -0700, "Shahms E. King" wrote: >There are Helix Player RPMS available as well and those will play all of >the newest Real Audio formats *and* the player is "open source" and uses >Gtk+. thanks for pointing this out... i was not aware that this existed. according to https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/schedules/index.html, a new alpha release is on May 18 for all those interested. this is exciting... the ability to play new Real formats and to remove Real's software from my computer while supporting open source: win, win, win situation. one question as follow-up: where would i download a MPEG-4 codec from? it states at the above-mentioned url that "MPEG4 enabled (codec not bundled)"? thanks for your help... very much appreciated! mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun May 16 17:14:29 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:14:29 -0400 Subject: Panasonic CF-R1 won't boot with install kernel crash In-Reply-To: <1084726685.4026.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> References: <1084366779.1879.229.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084411413.3990.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084482963.1881.191.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> <1084576715.4263.7.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084589622.4263.49.camel@tabb1.tabb> <1084726685.4026.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> Message-ID: <1084727669.21547.34.camel@duergar> Yeah USB has some bad probs in 2.6.5, like trying to rmmod usb modules only to have rmmod hang and having the process unkillable until reboot... -sb On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 12:58, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 15:12 +0900, Makoto Fujiwara wrote: > > snip < > > > > I have copied vmlinuz and initd.img from boot.iso (May 12 version) on > > my CD-ROM, have /etc/grub.conf lines pointing those two on /, > > unplug USB CDROM-drive and reboots. > > > > It works. Installer screen asking language appears. > > ( I did not go further from that point yet. Should I to that ? > > I need CDROM drive only when upgrade I guess.) > > Even upgrade can be done via network, but hopefully USB problems will be > fixed soon. At this point I'd wait for FC2 final and do a clean > install. At least that appears to be possible without the USB CD-ROM. > > > > > Phil> Output of lspci under FC1 would also be of interest. > > > > It's here: (CDROM unplugged) > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Host Bridge (rev 01) > > 00:00.1 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97 Audio Controller > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Motion, Inc. SM720 Lynx3DM (rev c1) > > 00:03.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 88) > > 00:03.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0575 > > 00:04.0 Communication controller: Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 8339 > > 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX ISA Bridge (rev 01) > > 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82440MX EIDE Controller > > 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX USB Universal Host Controller > > 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Power Management Controller > > 00:09.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02) > > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) > > > > Plugging USB CDROM drive makes no change at all for above. > > I think following line is for Wireless LAN Card: > > 00:03.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0575 > > Following is SD memory slot, probably > > 00:04.0 Communication controller: Matsushita Electric... Unknown device 8339 > > Should be added to your Bugzilla entry. > > Good luck with FC2. > > Phil > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun May 16 17:18:37 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 10:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Some problems with FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <20040515211354.40AF6739BF@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040516171837.22039.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- you wrote: >Trying to rsync an NFS mounted directory to a usb flash drive. The same >process worked fine on the same box under Fedora1, and still works on a >Fedora1 box next to this one. The output of rsync is: >building file list ... done >rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (8 bytes read so far) >rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(342) see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122541. be sure to add your comments and situation to this as well. i thought it was limited to firewire but apparently firewire isn't blame. and since i can duplicate this without using NFS or USB, i doubt NFS is to blame either... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun May 16 17:20:04 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:20:04 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040516170937.27590.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040516170937.27590.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084728004.21547.41.camel@duergar> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 13:09, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > thanks for pointing this out... i was not aware that this existed. according to > https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/schedules/index.html, a new alpha > release is on May 18 for all those interested. this is exciting... the ability > to play new Real formats and to remove Real's software from my computer while > supporting open source: win, win, win situation. > This is a deception... you cannot play most real format files without installing the binary-only codec packages with a non-free license... So I don't see any winning in the situation AT ALL. This is no different from before, we could always use the binary-only codecs...they are the problem, not the players... xine and mplayer and vlc are fine media players. I'm getting sick of this excitement over Real. When they open their codecs you should be happy. And for the record I have yet to get HelixPlayer to play anything on FC2Tx...without crashing. -sb > one question as follow-up: where would i download a MPEG-4 codec from? it > states at the above-mentioned url that "MPEG4 enabled (codec not bundled)"? > thanks for your help... very much appreciated! > > mark. :-) > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. > http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun May 16 17:20:11 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:20:11 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <40A7905E.9030607@gulik.org> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <200405161148.24740.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <40A7905E.9030607@gulik.org> Message-ID: <200405161320.11651.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Sunday 16 May 2004 12:01, Gregory Gulik wrote: >This works for me on FC2T3: > Unforch, this is an upgrade to FC1 on a heavily updated rh8 system. >http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/fc2-tips.php#rplayer > >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Me not slim, me=Gene & I'm not "slim' by 30 lbs :) >> >> gnorpm seems to have lost the ability to access the local rpm >> database by either db4 or db3 means. It was working a week or >> so ago when I finally figured out .pangorc. Something yum did? [...] -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From dave at webaugur.com Sun May 16 17:28:44 2004 From: dave at webaugur.com (David L Norris) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:28:44 -0500 Subject: Fedora 2 Final - yum/up2date vs. ISO's In-Reply-To: <1084630933.3985.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084630933.3985.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084728523.9969.9.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 09:22, Rory Gleeson wrote: > Any thoughts on the value of actually downloading the ISO's and > installing or updating with them vs. just letting up2date and yum take > you over to Fedora Core 2 final? Short answer: you should not try to upgrade from FC1 to FC2 using YUM/APT. Anaconda needs to do the upgrade for you. You may be able to do an upgrade using the boot.iso CD image. The Fedora Core 2 installation, at the very least, needs to be run under kernel 2.6. Maybe you could use YUM/APT to upgrade but the system may not work afterward. Some discussion on the topic: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-April/msg01102.html -- David Norris http://www.webaugur.com/dave/ ICQ - 412039 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hell this system started as FC1 and I updated it to test2 fine and now I'm using latest rawhide... what's wrong with Yummin' it up? Any specific problems you can think of? > > The Fedora Core 2 installation, at the very least, needs to be run under > kernel 2.6. Maybe you could use YUM/APT to upgrade but the system may > not work afterward. > This is true. The first thing I did was install 2.6.0-test9 back a few months ago (at 1.6.5-1.358 now), and then upgrade the other packages in increments, seems to work fine. I haven't had any issues with this approach, my system is running better than before... aside from new bugs in kernel 2.6.5-1.x... > Some discussion on the topic: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-April/msg01102.html The e-mail seems to insinuate its technically impossible? I can attest to quite the contrary... -sb -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora at leemhuis.info Sun May 16 18:10:58 2004 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:10:58 +0200 Subject: *Heads up* for FC1 Alsa users from fedora.us Message-ID: <1084731058.1652.32.camel@work.thl.home> Hi *, users that have installed the package alsa-driver (needed for the alsa kernel-modules) from the fedora.us repository should update to the latest Version 1.0.4-0.fdr.2.1 before they upgrade to FC2. This version is out since one week, so if you use yum, up2date or apt to keep your system always up2date you should already have it installed. All other, please get it at your local mirror or directly at http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.stable/alsa-driver-1.0.4-0.fdr.2.1.i386.rpm This version avoids a conflict during an FC1 -> FC2 update between alsa-driver and the new MAKEDEV package. Also note that it may be a good idea to remove all alsa-packages from fedora.us before upgrading to FC2 as it contains alsa itself, but in an older Version (fedora.us currently at 1.04, FC2 ships 1.03). This is no must as the newer version should not do any harm. *Should*. If you miss(ed) it and run into any alsa related errors after FC2 update please remove alsa-driver, kernel-module-alsa*, alsa-lib, alsa-utils (for the last two you properly need --nodeps parameter for rpm) and install the FC2 packages from you FC2 install media afterwards to resolve depencies. BTW, Sorry for crossposting, I think this time it's worth it. Further discussion should go to fedora-list, please. BTW2: Is there any interest in alsa-tools and alsa-firmware packages for FC2? FC2 will not ship them AFAIK, but I could try to package them for fedora.us if there are interested users. Thanks CU thl From dave at webaugur.com Sun May 16 19:42:39 2004 From: dave at webaugur.com (David L Norris) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 14:42:39 -0500 Subject: Fedora 2 Final - yum/up2date vs. ISO's In-Reply-To: <1084729967.21547.49.camel@duergar> References: <1084630933.3985.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084728523.9969.9.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> <1084729967.21547.49.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1084736558.9969.33.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 12:52, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > The Fedora Core 2 installation, at the very least, needs to be run under > > kernel 2.6. > This is true. The first thing I did was install 2.6.0-test9 back a few > months ago (at 1.6.5-1.358 now), and then upgrade the other packages in > increments, seems to work fine. I haven't had any issues with this > approach, my system is running better than before... aside from new bugs > in kernel 2.6.5-1.x... In the thread I mentioned, Jeremy Katz suggested that rolling updates may be less problematic. Where you start with FC1 then incrementally go forward tracking rawhide through time. I did this on my laptop and it more or less worked fine. At FC2T3 I installed from CD just to clean out any junk and make sure the installer worked. (The installer didn't work with the two previous tests on my laptop...) But a normal "yum update" from the standard FC1 to FC2 may break badly on some systems. > > Some discussion on the topic: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-April/msg01102.html > > The e-mail seems to insinuate its technically impossible? I can attest > to quite the contrary... It's technically impossible in some important upgrade scenarios. Not to say it will never work. They're just saying it will never work in every conceivable situation. If you want to ensure your system actually functions after upgrade then reboot to an installation CD and perform the upgrade. -- David Norris http://www.webaugur.com/dave/ ICQ - 412039 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun May 16 19:50:26 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:50:26 -0600 Subject: xorg.conf in FC2 Message-ID: <40A7C602.1040608@xmission.com> So what is to be done with this FC2 test3 error on XKB? I was told to edit the xorg.conf file. However when as root trying to edit that file, the file is READ only. How to fix? RaXeT From maestronn at wowway.com Sun May 16 19:57:26 2004 From: maestronn at wowway.com (D James) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:57:26 -0400 Subject: Realplayer10 !! (was:Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3) In-Reply-To: <1084700936.27053.56.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <40A68D92.4060401@wowway.com> <1084700936.27053.56.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <40A7C7A6.3020500@wowway.com> Chris Kloiber wrote: >>Actually, there is are RealPlayer for linux with mozilla plugin at >>www.helixcommunity.org It you don't mind using the nightly build you >>can download it now or else you'll have to wait until 5/18 for the alpha >>release. The more users and feedback the better the product. >> >> > >Have they fixed their packaging yet? Admittedly a long time ago since I >last looked, but they put binaries in /home/$USER IIRC. Blech. > > > It's available as a rpm package and it installs and plays fine on FC2. There is a some work to be done, after all this is an alpha product, but you get all the latest Real codecs supported. It installs the binaries in /usr/local/. From baron at psych.upenn.edu Sun May 16 19:57:48 2004 From: baron at psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:57:48 -0400 Subject: xorg.conf in FC2 In-Reply-To: <40A7C602.1040608@xmission.com> References: <40A7C602.1040608@xmission.com> Message-ID: <20040516195748.GA12219@psych> On 05/16/04 13:50, raxet wrote: >So what is to be done with this FC2 test3 error on XKB? I was told to >edit the xorg.conf file. >However when as root trying to edit that file, the file is READ only. > >How to fix? The obvious way is, as root: chmod 644 xorg.conf (after cd /etc/X11 of course). The chmod command changes permissions. But this is _so_ obvious that I'm wondering whether something else is wrong. It is also a puzzle how the permissions got unset. Jon -- Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron From alan at redhat.com Sun May 16 20:12:59 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:12:59 -0400 Subject: When can we see the inclusion of Video Players for RedhatFedora? In-Reply-To: <40A4EB4D.6000001@incentre.net> References: <20040513034041.95199.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> <20040513072641.GA26056@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A3F38C.8100C8F8@gmx.de> <20040513222846.GA30480@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40A4EB4D.6000001@incentre.net> Message-ID: <20040516201259.GL20505@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 09:52:45AM -0600, Guy Fraser wrote: > Why don't we switch from yum to apt, install synaptic and then have > a configuration option or preference option that allows people to > access "commercial or unsupported applications" and it enables non > RH repositories with these other apps. Yum can already handle this, just the only application I know in a non-free repository like that is Macromedia Flash. The other app thats needed to make it all work well is a mozilla helper which understands some mime type to be defined and contains repository definitions so you can click to run an appl which allows you to add repositories. Alan From alan at redhat.com Sun May 16 20:16:07 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:16:07 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405141602.i4EG2UAX010906@mx3.redhat.com> References: <000701c439cb$6e87bbb0$0200000a@frank> <200405141602.i4EG2UAX010906@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040516201607.GM20505@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 12:02:18PM -0400, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > As I mentioned earlier, SuSE gets this right out of the box. With the > exception of Firewire800, this technology has been around a while. If there > is a bug in 2.6.5, then why use it? If I recall correctly, SuSE uses 2.6.4. Because it doesnt work anything like well enough with every 2.6 tested. Bugzilla fills up with broken systems, including people who didnt need firewire. So we took it out, it can be put back in an errata but installing FC2 on a box which fails to install due to firewire is rather harder to fix with errata From bsierens at skynet.be Sun May 16 20:16:31 2004 From: bsierens at skynet.be (berton sierens) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:16:31 +0200 Subject: why is there no xine or totem included? Message-ID: <1084738591.2901.3.camel@laptop> From eugen at leitl.org Sun May 16 20:19:24 2004 From: eugen at leitl.org (Eugen Leitl) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:19:24 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 released to Mirrors, Bittorrent (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org) Message-ID: <20040516201924.GS25728@leitl.org> ----- Forwarded message from brian-slashdotnews at hyperreal.org ----- From: brian-slashdotnews at hyperreal.org Date: 16 May 2004 16:26:02 -0000 To: slashdotnews at hyperreal.org Subject: Fedora Core 2 released to Mirrors, Bittorrent User-Agent: SlashdotNewsScooper/0.0.3 Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/16/1333210 Posted by: CmdrTaco, on 2004-05-16 14:32:00 Topic: linux, 137 comments from the stuff-to-snag dept. [1]tom taylor writes "[2]Fedora Core 2 has been released to mirrors, due for public consumption on Tuesday 18th May. However, you can grab it now via [3]BitTorrent, so get it while it's fresh! It's available in both the [4]4 CD or [5]DVD versions." References 1. http://www.tomtaylor.co.uk/ 2. http://fedora.redhat.com/ 3. http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/ 4. http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/1752/FC2-i386-isos.torrent 5. http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/1752/FC2-i386-DVD.iso.torrent ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl leitl ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Am I going blind in > my old age? > > [...] From alan at redhat.com Sun May 16 20:24:47 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:24:47 -0400 Subject: FC2 T3 release date of 5-18?? In-Reply-To: <000001c439df$f7f056f0$0200000a@frank> References: <20040514173531.GA27808@jadzia.bu.edu> <000001c439df$f7f056f0$0200000a@frank> Message-ID: <20040516202447.GO20505@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 12:19:17PM -0600, raxet wrote: > I'm not saying delay, I'm just a little weirded out having help test every > release of FC and now have to wait for FC2 release to be updated by rawhide. > > I appreciate all that has gone into this project. I'm not particularly > thrilled about waiting. It's a natural reaction. I haven't flamed anyone. We aren't particularly thrilled about not having been able to fix it in time either - its frustrating to all. From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun May 16 20:30:21 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:30:21 -0500 Subject: VNC server won't Start?? In-Reply-To: <65170.65.40.71.237.1084723014.squirrel@65.40.71.237> References: <40A76BCC.4030409@sbcglobal.net> <65170.65.40.71.237.1084723014.squirrel@65.40.71.237> Message-ID: <40A7CF5D.70400@sbcglobal.net> William Hooper wrote: >jim tate said: > > >>]# /sbin/service vncserver status >>Xvnc is stopped >>]# /sbin/service vncserver start >>Starting VNC server: [ OK ] >>}# /sbin/service vncserver status >>Xvnc is stopped >> >> > >Did you edit /etc/sysconfig/vncservers? > > > Yes! That did the trick. Learning something every minute. Thanks Jim Tate From alan at redhat.com Sun May 16 20:39:39 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:39:39 -0400 Subject: Working Firewire in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405150315.i4F3FgAX008277@mx3.redhat.com> References: <1084590239.4263.54.camel@tabb1.tabb> <200405150315.i4F3FgAX008277@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040516203939.GR20505@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:15:33PM -0400, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > Not to beat a dead horse, the question was, "where can you download a FREE > version of RedHat?" Note the word REDHAT. All the sources are on ftp.redhat.com. We consider that important From alan at redhat.com Sun May 16 20:51:22 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:51:22 -0400 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040516205122.GA18735@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 09:14:57AM -0500, jim tate wrote: > Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one > choice of linux users. I'm not sure whether KDE is the number one choice of users (or in fact whether most users actually care/know). I am sure Red Hat doesn't "dislike" KDE. For business you have to care about stuff like supportability, what business wants and business requirements - like accessibility for disabled users. > I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE > as a optional install in Fedora2. Fedora 2 has KDE, and I really don't see it going away 8). In fact FC2 we added a desktop (xfce) Alan From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun May 16 21:01:32 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:01:32 +0200 Subject: Realplayer10 !! (was:Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3) In-Reply-To: <40A7C7A6.3020500@wowway.com> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084700936.27053.56.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A7C7A6.3020500@wowway.com> Message-ID: <200405162301.32838.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time D James wrote: > Chris Kloiber wrote: > >>Actually, there is are RealPlayer for linux with mozilla plugin at > >>www.helixcommunity.org It you don't mind using the nightly build you > >>can download it now or else you'll have to wait until 5/18 for the alpha > >>release. The more users and feedback the better the product. > > > >Have they fixed their packaging yet? Admittedly a long time ago since I > >last looked, but they put binaries in /home/$USER IIRC. Blech. > > It's available as a rpm package and it installs and plays fine on FC2. > There is a some work to be done, after all this is an alpha product, but > you get all the latest Real codecs supported. It installs the binaries > in /usr/local/. But where is the difference between a) The HelixPlayer Milestone under the BEULA b) The HelixPlayer Alpha under the RPSL c) The RealPlayer 10 under the BEULA Why is the Helix Player Milestone under the same License as the RealPlayer, but the Alpha version not? And are there any licences which allow the distribution of the player together with fedora or other linux distributions? Roland From maestronn at wowway.com Sun May 16 21:11:36 2004 From: maestronn at wowway.com (D James) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:11:36 -0400 Subject: Realplayer10 !! In-Reply-To: <200405162301.32838.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084700936.27053.56.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A7C7A6.3020500@wowway.com> <200405162301.32838.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <40A7D908.8010609@wowway.com> Roland Wolters wrote: >But where is the difference between > >a) The HelixPlayer Milestone under the BEULA >b) The HelixPlayer Alpha under the RPSL >c) The RealPlayer 10 under the BEULA > >Why is the Helix Player Milestone under the same License as the RealPlayer, >but the Alpha version not? > >And are there any licences which allow the distribution of the player together >with fedora or other linux distributions? > >Roland > > > See https://helixcommunity.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=65 From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun May 16 21:13:11 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:13:11 -0500 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <20040516205122.GA18735@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> <20040516205122.GA18735@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A7D967.3090003@sbcglobal.net> Alan Cox wrote: >On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 09:14:57AM -0500, jim tate wrote: > > >>Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one >>choice of linux users. >> >> > >I'm not sure whether KDE is the number one choice of users (or in fact >whether most users actually care/know). I am sure Red Hat doesn't "dislike" >KDE. > >For business you have to care about stuff like supportability, what business >wants and business requirements - like accessibility for disabled users. > > > >>I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE >>as a optional install in Fedora2. >> >> > >Fedora 2 has KDE, and I really don't see it going away 8). In fact FC2 we >added a desktop (xfce) > >Alan > > > > Thank you Alan, that puts my soul to rest. Not to sound harsh, but I hope Redhat never forgets that it was the RedHat Linux Hackers that got RedHat Linux exposed and got it started to what it is today. I started out with 5.0 and I'm still around with Fedora2. Thanks Jim Tate James Tate From confushion at comcast.net Sun May 16 21:19:01 2004 From: confushion at comcast.net (Confushion) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:19:01 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 Message-ID: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Folks, Fedora Core 2 supposedly is about to be released. A very serious bug exists which can render dual-boot Windows XP installations inoperable. The problem has been discussed in other threads here on this list, and can be found in bugzilla, so I won't go over it in more detail. Please see bugzilla bugs 120128 and 115980. This problem happens on my hardware even if the harddrive is wiped, and a fresh Windows XP install is performed before FC2-test3. I know about this problem because I experienced it first hand in FC2-test3. The only way I've found to work around it is to install Windows XP, then FC1, and finally do an UPGRADE to FC2-test3. Something is just plain not right with the FC2 "from scratch" installation process. This problem did NOT exist in FC1! >From reading the threads on this list and bugzilla, I know I am not alone in experiencing this problem. Unless bugzilla is incorrect and this bug has been fixed since FC2-test3, the fedora folks are about to release a distribution which may negatively impact a significant portion of the user base in a very nasty way. I would hope there is at least something about this issue in the release notes! Thanks, Confushion From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 16 21:21:16 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:21:16 +0200 Subject: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor In-Reply-To: <20040516205122.GA18735@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40A625E1.9000508@sbcglobal.net> <20040516205122.GA18735@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084742472.3158.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 16/05/2004 ? 22:51, Alan Cox a ?crit : > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 09:14:57AM -0500, jim tate wrote: > > Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one > > choice of linux users. > > I'm not sure whether KDE is the number one choice of users (or in fact > whether most users actually care/know). I am sure Red Hat doesn't "dislike" > KDE. > > For business you have to care about stuff like supportability, what business > wants and business requirements - like accessibility for disabled users. > GPL (Qt) is less "business" friendly than LGPL (gtk+/gnome). > > I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE > > as a optional install in Fedora2. > > Fedora 2 has KDE, and I really don't see it going away 8). In fact FC2 we > added a desktop (xfce) > > Alan > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun May 16 21:23:33 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:23:33 +0200 Subject: Realplayer10 !! In-Reply-To: <40A7D908.8010609@wowway.com> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <200405162301.32838.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <40A7D908.8010609@wowway.com> Message-ID: <200405162323.33884.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time D James wrote: > Roland Wolters wrote: > >But where is the difference between > > > >a) The HelixPlayer Milestone under the BEULA > >b) The HelixPlayer Alpha under the RPSL > >c) The RealPlayer 10 under the BEULA > > > >Why is the Helix Player Milestone under the same License as the > > RealPlayer, but the Alpha version not? > > > >And are there any licences which allow the distribution of the player > > together with fedora or other linux distributions? > > See https://helixcommunity.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=65 Thanks, that clears some things, but I still don't know what's about shipping with fedora or other linux Distributions. How "open" is real's "open source" in real? I tried to figure out it through reading the licences, but I am not a lawyer and want to hear other people. Roland From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Sun May 16 21:28:28 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:28:28 -0400 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <1084725959.21547.30.camel@duergar> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084725959.21547.30.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1084742908.4776.20.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 12:46, Stan Bubrouski wrote: [snip] > (Ie: Downloading things from suprnova.org > > is potentially hazardous, especially to Windows systems.) > > > > Not a problem for us though ;-) Don't be so sure. I'm sure many torrentzens know about the fake 'Microsoft Office 2004' release for Mac OS X that is actually a trojan. But I have to wonder about the 'Azureus Upgrade To 2.0.8.5' on suprnova.org right this moment. There's no mention of version 2.0.8.5 at all on http://azureus.sourceforge.net/, so this file is HIGHLY suspect. And if you don't know, Azureus is an written in Java, which means it will run on Linux with an appropriate jvm. I feel a *little* safer running an unknown java app on Linux than *anything* under windows, but unknown anything is BAD. The point is, I'm not too cocky about Linux's purported *immunity* to viruses, trojans, and worms. It's safer, yes, and I don't buy the argument that's it's less prone to these ailments because it's less popular, but the moral is, I suppose, BE CAREFUL OUT THERE. /me makes note to double and triple check the md5sum of the FC2 DVD iso I'm grabbing from suprnova.org right now before installing it on *anything*. PS: What!? You mean there's no rom image for FC2 for my Zaurus? Geez, you incompetent blokes over there working in that evil Microsoft-wannabe-of-Linux company Red Hat. Can't you get anything right? Man, all those WinCE devices get it right. Everything just WORKS. Why did you release FC2 without Zaurus support? You know, that's important to ME, so it should be important to YOU. What? Zaurus support would break most of your other platform support? Well, I don't care about the rest of your customers, my clients want Zaurus support. What? Zaurus support is broken? Well, fix it with 500 patches if you must. What? That's a huge support burden? Well, XYZ, Inc. gets it right...it works for me... -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sun May 16 21:32:06 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 14:32:06 -0700 Subject: Fedora 2 Final - yum/up2date vs. ISO's In-Reply-To: <1084729967.21547.49.camel@duergar> References: <1084630933.3985.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084728523.9969.9.camel@Daneel.WebAugur.com> <1084729967.21547.49.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1084743125.17691.12.camel@CirithUngol> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 13:52 -0400, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 13:28, David L Norris wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 09:22, Rory Gleeson wrote: > > > Any thoughts on the value of actually downloading the ISO's and > > > installing or updating with them vs. just letting up2date and yum take > > > you over to Fedora Core 2 final? > > > > Short answer: you should not try to upgrade from FC1 to FC2 using > > YUM/APT. Anaconda needs to do the upgrade for you. You may be able to > > do an upgrade using the boot.iso CD image. > > > > Why not? Hell this system started as FC1 and I updated it to test2 fine > and now I'm using latest rawhide... what's wrong with Yummin' it up? > Any specific problems you can think of? > > > > > The Fedora Core 2 installation, at the very least, needs to be run under > > kernel 2.6. Maybe you could use YUM/APT to upgrade but the system may > > not work afterward. > > > > This is true. The first thing I did was install 2.6.0-test9 back a few > months ago (at 1.6.5-1.358 now), and then upgrade the other packages in > increments, seems to work fine. I haven't had any issues with this > approach, my system is running better than before... aside from new bugs > in kernel 2.6.5-1.x... > > > Some discussion on the topic: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-April/msg01102.html > > The e-mail seems to insinuate its technically impossible? I can attest > to quite the contrary... Technically impossible no, but it still should not be done (IF you expect things to go smoothly). We all know that linux affords enough freedom in methodology that you could go to extreme lengths to do this the wrong way.. and end up with the same product. That doesn't indicate people (who need to *ask* if its reasonable) should be doing it. In the least, there will be problems with the kernel change, xorg-x11 upgrade, and config files (in many locations being left as .rpmnew). There are more.. but those alone are enough to suggest that anyone who needs to ask about this should not be doing it. Use the boot.iso and upgrade install from the net or make a local repository and do the same... the benefits outweigh the work. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Sun May 16 21:43:19 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:43:19 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084743799.4776.35.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 17:19, Confushion wrote: [snip] > Unless bugzilla is incorrect and > this bug has been fixed since FC2-test3, the fedora folks are about to > release a distribution which may negatively impact a significant portion > of the user base in a very nasty way. And the sky is falling, too. These threads are getting old. I seriously doubt dual boot systems are a priority for Red Hat, nor should they be. A dual boot system, in principle, is a transition configuration that need not be well supported in every release. And even as a transition, it's not a requirement for the majority of installations. Keep a separate Windows box (or boxen) around handle the Windows-only requirements. Not that it's a problem that I think Red Hat would not address, or should not address. Just that, like many lengthy threads on this list recently, your estimation of it's importance is quite overstated and the difficulty in solving it (or impossibility of solving it in the alloted time), is probably understated, too. Especially since there *is* a workaround (though, admittedly, a lengthy one). It can be made to work currently, and it can likely be fixed with an updated install image (boot.iso) as an erratum. > I would hope there is at least something about this issue in the release > notes! Probably a good idea, but probably too late. ISOs are spun some time before the actual release date. In fact, due to an apparent reneging of the "gentleman's agreement" amount mirror operators, the ISOs are already out there and available via bittorrent on suprnova.org (it remains to be seen if these are genuine or some kind of bogus trojan horse). Maybe an note in the release announcement is appropriate. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 16 21:59:50 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:59:50 +0200 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084743799.4776.35.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084743799.4776.35.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <1084744749.3257.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 16/05/2004 ? 23:43, Paul Iadonisi a ?crit : > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 17:19, Confushion wrote: > > [snip] > > Maybe an note in the release announcement is appropriate. > +1 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From seanlkml at rogers.com Sun May 16 22:03:19 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:03:19 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040516180319.69d4c92c.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Sun, 16 May 2004 16:19:01 -0500 Confushion wrote: > A very serious bug exists which can render dual-boot Windows XP > installations inoperable. The problem has been discussed in other > threads here on this list, and can be found in bugzilla, so I won't go > over it in more detail. Please see bugzilla bugs 120128 and 115980. > This problem happens on my hardware even if the harddrive is wiped, and > a fresh Windows XP install is performed before FC2-test3. > I know about this problem because I experienced it first hand in > FC2-test3. The only way I've found to work around it is to install > Windows XP, then FC1, and finally do an UPGRADE to FC2-test3. Something > is just plain not right with the FC2 "from scratch" installation > process. This problem did NOT exist in FC1! This is actually a bug in Windows XP, please forward your concerns to Microsoft asking them the correct procedure to dual boot with Linux. :o) Cheers, Sean From rgleeson at childwelfare.ca Sun May 16 22:04:08 2004 From: rgleeson at childwelfare.ca (Rory Gleeson) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:04:08 -0400 Subject: Gnome vs. KDE Default in Fedora (was: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor) Message-ID: <1084745047.6183.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> While I prefer KDE, I'm not using it in Fedora because it's buggy and sluggish, unlike KDE in other distros, like MDK, where it's received more attention and tweaking. That said, I'm glad that Fedora and Red Hat products default to Gnome. Why, you ask, if I prefer KDE? Because, Gnome and KDE are the two main desktops. More users are likely to use the default desktop that their distro installs. Most other distros default to KDE, which will limit the number of users who use Gnome. Can you imagine if no major distros defaulted to Gnome? The more marketshare both Gnome and KDE have, the more they'll compete and innovate. So, I'm glad that RedHat defaults to Gnome, as it keeps the Linux desktop market on their toes and stops one desktop from completely dominating and then resting on its laurels, becoming boring and dull. For this same reason, I'm glad to see that Fedora also includes XFCE and I hope it keeps adding the lesser-known desktops so people can try them out, allowing those desktops the opportunity to attract new users. Now, if only Gnome would add full transparency options for the panel and menu. That's one KDE feature I really like. Rory ===== Message: 9 Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:51:22 -0400 From: Alan Cox Subject: Re: Red Hat Introduces Desktop Linux Competitor To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: <20040516205122.GA18735 at devserv.devel.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 09:14:57AM -0500, jim tate wrote: > Why is it, that Redhat so dislikes KDE? the number one > choice of linux users. I'm not sure whether KDE is the number one choice of users (or in fact whether most users actually care/know). I am sure Red Hat doesn't "dislike" KDE. For business you have to care about stuff like supportability, what business wants and business requirements - like accessibility for disabled users. > I read this article, and I assumed that they will still offer KDE > as a optional install in Fedora2. Fedora 2 has KDE, and I really don't see it going away 8). In fact FC2 we added a desktop (xfce) Alan From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun May 16 22:05:21 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:05:21 -0600 Subject: xorg.conf in FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040516195748.GA12219@psych> References: <40A7C602.1040608@xmission.com> <20040516195748.GA12219@psych> Message-ID: <40A7E5A1.6020302@xmission.com> Jonathan Baron wrote: >On 05/16/04 13:50, raxet wrote: > > >>So what is to be done with this FC2 test3 error on XKB? I was told to >>edit the xorg.conf file. >>However when as root trying to edit that file, the file is READ only. >> >>How to fix? >> >> > >The obvious way is, as root: >chmod 644 xorg.conf >(after >cd /etc/X11 >of course). The chmod command changes permissions. > >But this is _so_ obvious that I'm wondering whether something >else is wrong. It is also a puzzle how the permissions got >unset. > >Jon > > I'm stating that in my /etc/X11 directory there is no xorg.conf. The only one I found was located in the /usr/XR11R6/lib/Server dir. What to do please? RaXeT From confushion at comcast.net Sun May 16 22:17:37 2004 From: confushion at comcast.net (Confushion) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:17:37 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 Message-ID: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Paul Iadonisi wrote: > And the sky is falling, too. These threads are getting old. I would say the sky is falling for the user when their previously working Windows XP partition as completely unbootable. I have not seen any fix short of wiping the partition table and losing the existing Windows XP partition. Yes, the sky is falling for that user. It's not just one or two people here, and it will be a significant number when the release goes live, if it has not been fixed. If Microsoft released an upgrade for Windows that broke Linux installations in the same way, I think we know what the reaction would be. Why shouldn't we strive to at least be better than Microsoft? > I seriously doubt dual boot systems are a priority for Red Hat, nor > should they be. A dual boot system, in principle, is a transition > configuration that need not be well supported in every release. And > even as a transition, it's not a requirement for the majority of > installations. Keep a separate Windows box (or boxen) around handle > the Windows-only requirements. I guess we disagree there. I see your viewpoint as being very elitist and short-sighted. There are lots of reasons why a person would want to be able to boot both Windows XP and FC2 on a single box. My main concern is this problem did not exist in FC1. Let's go over that again, since I've seen some people post that this is a Windows XP bug. THIS PROBLEM DIDN'T SHOW UP IN FC1. Something has changed in this release which has caused the problem. Many users have already been affected. The impact of this problem is a user ending up in a situation where they will not be able to get back into the Windows XP partition without some serious headaches. I have not yet seen any solution presented for the problem, but I'd appreciate a link if you know of one. I certainly looked around when I was hit with this about a week ago. Cheers, Confushion From psavoie1783 at rogers.com Sun May 16 22:29:51 2004 From: psavoie1783 at rogers.com (Phil Savoie) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:29:51 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A7EB5F.40209@rogers.com> Confushion wrote: > Paul Iadonisi wrote: > >> And the sky is falling, too. These threads are getting old. > > > I would say the sky is falling for the user when their previously > working Windows XP partition as completely unbootable. I have not seen > any fix short of wiping the partition table and losing the existing > Windows XP partition. Yes, the sky is falling for that user. It's not > just one or two people here, and it will be a significant number when > the release goes live, if it has not been fixed. > > If Microsoft released an upgrade for Windows that broke Linux > installations in the same way, I think we know what the reaction would > be. Why shouldn't we strive to at least be better than Microsoft? > > >>I seriously doubt dual boot systems are a priority for Red Hat, nor >>should they be. A dual boot system, in principle, is a transition >>configuration that need not be well supported in every release. And >>even as a transition, it's not a requirement for the majority of >>installations. Keep a separate Windows box (or boxen) around handle >>the Windows-only requirements. > > > I guess we disagree there. I see your viewpoint as being very elitist > and short-sighted. There are lots of reasons why a person would want to > be able to boot both Windows XP and FC2 on a single box. > > My main concern is this problem did not exist in FC1. Let's go over > that again, since I've seen some people post that this is a Windows XP > bug. THIS PROBLEM DIDN'T SHOW UP IN FC1. > > Something has changed in this release which has caused the problem. > Many users have already been affected. The impact of this problem is a > user ending up in a situation where they will not be able to get back > into the Windows XP partition without some serious headaches. I have > not yet seen any solution presented for the problem, but I'd appreciate > a link if you know of one. I certainly looked around when I was hit > with this about a week ago. > > Cheers, > Confushion > > > I agree, I use Linux exclusively on a dual boot machine at work for *only* those times where I have to use windows for my office routine. At home it's strictly Linux. I too suffered the *wonderful* *new* FC2 release. I also feel that on the point of releasing to the wilds, a very significant bug like this should not have been missed and just gives all the windows users more ammunition to turn off Linux altogether. Absolutely and totally unprofessional, in my opinion. I emphatically hope that the boxed versions don't allow for this or there's going to be a huge outcry. Phil Savoie From seanlkml at rogers.com Sun May 16 22:41:31 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:41:31 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A7EB5F.40209@rogers.com> References: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7EB5F.40209@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040516184131.7c32996c.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:29:51 -0400 Phil Savoie wrote: > I agree, I use Linux exclusively on a dual boot machine at work for > *only* those times where I have to use windows for my office routine. > At home it's strictly Linux. Try installing Microsoft OS after installing Linux see how much effort they put into making sure Linux works afterward. :o) > I too suffered the *wonderful* *new* FC2 release. I also feel that on > the point of releasing to the wilds, a very significant bug like this > should not have been missed and just gives all the windows users more > ammunition to turn off Linux altogether. Absolutely and totally > unprofessional, in my opinion. I emphatically hope that the boxed > versions don't allow for this or there's going to be a huge outcry. Why should anyone care if someone decides to not use Linux? We can giggle and keep using it ourselves! Personally, i don't care a whit about anyone who wants to return to Windows. Linux doesn't have to be for everyone. Fedora is for hobbists, not for aunt tilly. I'd suggest you do some digging and figure out how to make it work. Does an older version of Grub resolve the issue? Try HELPING instead of whining. Cheers, Sean From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Sun May 16 22:43:13 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 01:43:13 +0300 Subject: Realplayer10 !! In-Reply-To: <200405162323.33884.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <40A7D908.8010609@wowway.com> <200405162323.33884.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200405170143.13841.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Roland Wolters kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika maanantai, 17. toukokuuta 2004 00:23): > Thanks, that clears some things, but I still don't know what's > about shipping with fedora or other linux Distributions. > How "open" is real's "open source" in real? RPSL is certified by the Open Source Initiative as an OSD-compatible licence: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/real.php This means that the open source Helix Player could be included in Fedora (Core or Extras), but it won't include the codecs needed to play the propriatary RealAudio, RealVideo, etc. formats. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sun May 16 22:42:20 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:42:20 -0700 Subject: xorg.conf in FC2 In-Reply-To: <40A7E5A1.6020302@xmission.com> References: <40A7C602.1040608@xmission.com> <20040516195748.GA12219@psych> <40A7E5A1.6020302@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1084747339.17691.19.camel@CirithUngol> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 16:05 -0600, raxet wrote: > I'm stating that in my /etc/X11 directory there is no xorg.conf. The > only one I found was located in the /usr/XR11R6/lib/Server dir. What to > do please? > > RaXeT Remove the old XF86Config files (if any are present), make sure there is no xorg.conf file (you already have) and then create a new config file from scratch with system-config-display: system-config-display --reconfig If that fails.. try adding the --noui option so that X is not started while configuring. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From mattdm at mattdm.org Sun May 16 22:48:09 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:48:09 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A7EB5F.40209@rogers.com> References: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7EB5F.40209@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040516224809.GA17453@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 06:29:51PM -0400, Phil Savoie wrote: > I too suffered the *wonderful* *new* FC2 release. I also feel that on > the point of releasing to the wilds, a very significant bug like this > should not have been missed and just gives all the windows users more > ammunition to turn off Linux altogether. Absolutely and totally > unprofessional, in my opinion. I emphatically hope that the boxed > versions don't allow for this or there's going to be a huge outcry. Please separate your first point (basically: "this bug should be fixed") from your second (which sounds like: "my pet bug is a the most important thing in the world and nobody and noting else matters and I'm the most important class of user so everyone cater to me"). Of course, I'm exaggerating unfairly with my paraphrasing, but that's how it comes across. And the second part, because of human nature and all, actually detracts from practically getting something done about the first. Of course, since there *won't be* any boxed versions, maybe it's all moot. :) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun May 16 22:48:52 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:48:52 -0600 Subject: xorg.conf in FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084747339.17691.19.camel@CirithUngol> References: <40A7C602.1040608@xmission.com> <20040516195748.GA12219@psych> <40A7E5A1.6020302@xmission.com> <1084747339.17691.19.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <40A7EFD4.6020103@xmission.com> Andrew Farris wrote: >On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 16:05 -0600, raxet wrote: > > > >>I'm stating that in my /etc/X11 directory there is no xorg.conf. The >>only one I found was located in the /usr/XR11R6/lib/Server dir. What to >>do please? >> >>RaXeT >> >> > >Remove the old XF86Config files (if any are present), make sure there is >no xorg.conf file (you already have) and then create a new config file >from scratch with system-config-display: >system-config-display --reconfig > >If that fails.. try adding the --noui option so that X is not started >while configuring. > > I'm assuming your telling me to remove my XF86Config file in the /etc/X11 directory. Then do a search of my system for any existing xorg.conf, then if found move it to the /etc/X11 directory or if I don't find the xorg.conf to recreate it by the system-config-display --reconfig? Thanks, RaXeT From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun May 16 22:48:40 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 00:48:40 +0200 Subject: Realplayer10 !! In-Reply-To: <200405170143.13841.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <200405162323.33884.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200405170143.13841.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <200405170048.40181.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Markku Kolkka wrote: > Roland Wolters kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika maanantai, 17. > > toukokuuta 2004 00:23): > > Thanks, that clears some things, but I still don't know what's > > about shipping with fedora or other linux Distributions. > > How "open" is real's "open source" in real? > > RPSL is certified by the Open Source Initiative as an > OSD-compatible licence: > http://www.opensource.org/licenses/real.php > > This means that the open source Helix Player could be included in > Fedora (Core or Extras), but it won't include the codecs needed > to play the propriatary RealAudio, RealVideo, etc. formats. Thanks very much - is there any staement about this by redhat or other people who make these decisions? And, btw.: what do you mean with "Extras"? The fedora.us Repositories? Is this official? Roland From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Sun May 16 22:52:14 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:52:14 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084747934.4776.59.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:17, Confushion wrote: > Paul Iadonisi wrote: > > And the sky is falling, too. These threads are getting old. > > I would say the sky is falling for the user when their previously > working Windows XP partition as completely unbootable. I have not seen > any fix short of wiping the partition table and losing the existing > Windows XP partition. Yes, the sky is falling for that user. It's not > just one or two people here, and it will be a significant number when > the release goes live, if it has not been fixed. Backups? Regardless...repartitioning on a live, critical (in terms of data) system is historically a hugely risky operation, not for the faint of heart. The situation may have improved a bit, it's not something I would recommend to the 'masses'. > If Microsoft released an upgrade for Windows that broke Linux > installations in the same way, I think we know what the reaction would > be. Why shouldn't we strive to at least be better than Microsoft? Hmm, like Windows 98? Windows OS installers are *extremely* unfriendly to any non-Microsoft OS installed and will happily replace the boot block with it's own without any regard to what's already there. > I guess we disagree there. I see your viewpoint as being very elitist > and short-sighted. There are lots of reasons why a person would want to > be able to boot both Windows XP and FC2 on a single box. You are free to disagree, but calling it elitist or short-sighted is uncalled for. Our views are just different. Full stop. Ask any IT manager if they like dual boot systems as a permanent solution. > My main concern is this problem did not exist in FC1. Let's go over > that again, since I've seen some people post that this is a Windows XP > bug. THIS PROBLEM DIDN'T SHOW UP IN FC1. Regressions happen. It's not good, but they happen. Think of it this way...someone new to Fedora Core installing FC2 making a dual boot system out of a previously Windows XP system is going to have problems. >From the perspective of Fedora Core's goals, this person is: 1) Technically competent 2) A hobbyist, enthusiast, or other geek-like critter (me included) 3) Knows enough to not do this without a complete, restore-able backup. 4) Isn't using this on a critical, production system without knowing that he is 'on his own' if he does. That's me. I use it on production, critical systems, but I take FULL responsibility if it breaks. The PR value of this is going to be largely negative. But the pundits, when they do their reviews, though they will have a field day with this, are in the end, just pundits. NOBODY can say that Red Hat hasn't been CRYSTAL CLEAR that Fedora Core is not a 'product' of Red Hat. It is a project aimed at hobbyist, enthusiasts, and developers who know the risks involved and know how ti mitigate against them. > I have > not yet seen any solution presented for the problem, but I'd appreciate > a link if you know of one. I certainly looked around when I was hit > with this about a week ago. I don't have any solutions myself, I was only referring to your workaround of installing FC1 and upgrading. It's not a great solution, but it is a workaround until Red Hat can issue an erratum. On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:29, Phil Savoie wrote: > ammunition to turn off Linux altogether. Absolutely and totally > unprofessional, in my opinion. I emphatically hope that the boxed > versions don't allow for this or there's going to be a huge outcry. And when were you led to believe that Fedora Core was in any intended to be a 'professional' release of any kind? It should work, and will work on a dedicated system. Dual boot is and always has been risk. Use Knoppix if you really need GNU/Linux functionality on an existing Windows system. Or whatever. The point is, that there are other solutions. Dual boot is evil ;-). -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Sun May 16 22:56:04 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:56:04 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084747934.4776.59.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084747934.4776.59.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <1084748164.4776.62.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:52, Paul Iadonisi wrote: > Regressions happen. It's not good, but they happen. Think of it this > way...someone new to Fedora Core installing FC2 making a dual boot > system out of a previously Windows XP system is going to have problems. I meant to add to this that someone who already has a dual boot system with Windows XP / FC1 is not going to have the problem, as you noted in your original post. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From fedora at andrewfarris.com Sun May 16 23:17:46 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:17:46 -0700 Subject: xorg.conf in FC2 In-Reply-To: <40A7EFD4.6020103@xmission.com> References: <40A7C602.1040608@xmission.com> <20040516195748.GA12219@psych> <40A7E5A1.6020302@xmission.com> <1084747339.17691.19.camel@CirithUngol> <40A7EFD4.6020103@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1084749466.25836.5.camel@CirithUngol> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 16:48 -0600, raxet wrote: > Andrew Farris wrote: > > >On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 16:05 -0600, raxet wrote: > > > > > > > >>I'm stating that in my /etc/X11 directory there is no xorg.conf. The > >>only one I found was located in the /usr/XR11R6/lib/Server dir. What to > >>do please? > >> > >>RaXeT > >> > >> > > > >Remove the old XF86Config files (if any are present), make sure there is > >no xorg.conf file (you already have) and then create a new config file > >from scratch with system-config-display: > >system-config-display --reconfig > > > >If that fails.. try adding the --noui option so that X is not started > >while configuring. > > > > > I'm assuming your telling me to remove my XF86Config file in the > /etc/X11 directory. > Then do a search of my system for any existing xorg.conf, then if found > move it to the /etc/X11 directory or if I don't find the xorg.conf to > recreate it by the system-config-display --reconfig? Yes, remove any /etc/X11/XF86Config files. No, don't copy or move any existing xorg.conf files into /etc/X11. Use system-config-display to create a new, fresh config file instead (this is more likely to create a usable file than assuming one you *find* on the system is valid.. the s-c-d program uses a script that knows what is valid to create it) -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From csm at moongroup.com Sun May 16 23:40:19 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (csm at moongroup.com) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 16 May 2004, Confushion spewed into the bitstream: C>Folks, C> C>Fedora Core 2 supposedly is about to be released. C> C>A very serious bug exists which can render dual-boot Windows XP C>installations inoperable. Wow. An altogether excellent proposition! Sounds like a feature to me! - -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAp/vmv6Gjsf2pQ0oRAvzXAJ4ysveIMleSyAWNs00w5d0s+652agCghT5f Ss4CwOaTgeAMSZc3jsXSSko= =iqRZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From florian_bachmann at t-online.de Sun May 16 23:51:58 2004 From: florian_bachmann at t-online.de (Florian Bachmann) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 01:51:58 +0200 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> Confushion schrieb: >Folks, > >Fedora Core 2 supposedly is about to be released. > >A very serious bug exists which can render dual-boot Windows XP >installations inoperable. The problem has been discussed in other >threads here on this list, and can be found in bugzilla, so I won't go >over it in more detail. Please see bugzilla bugs 120128 and 115980. >This problem happens on my hardware even if the harddrive is wiped, and >a fresh Windows XP install is performed before FC2-test3. >I know about this problem because I experienced it first hand in >FC2-test3. The only way I've found to work around it is to install >Windows XP, then FC1, and finally do an UPGRADE to FC2-test3. Something >is just plain not right with the FC2 "from scratch" installation >process. This problem did NOT exist in FC1! > > > A quick fix would be to install GRUB into the boot block of the hard disk partition that holds the /boot directory instead of the MBR. You can then dump the GRUB boot sector to a file and use the Windows XP boot loader to boot into linux. Regards From destefan at vaxcave.com Mon May 17 00:00:29 2004 From: destefan at vaxcave.com (Anthony DeStefano) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:00:29 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084748164.4776.62.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084747934.4776.59.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> <1084748164.4776.62.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <40A8009D.5000001@vaxcave.com> Paul Iadonisi wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:52, Paul Iadonisi wrote: > > >> Regressions happen. It's not good, but they happen. Think of it this >>way...someone new to Fedora Core installing FC2 making a dual boot >>system out of a previously Windows XP system is going to have problems. > > > I meant to add to this that someone who already has a dual boot system > with Windows XP / FC1 is not going to have the problem, as you noted in > your original post. Actually I can vouch that this is not true. I had Core 1 on hdc with XP living on hda1 and grub from Core 1 happily booting both OSes. I installed core2test3 over core1 and it wouldn't allow me to boot XP. My workaround was to go into the BIOS and hard set it to LBA mode instead of AUTO. That allowed me to boot into XP. Also, I didn't do any repartitioning. Just formated the partitions on hdc that held the core1 install and used the same layout for the installation of test3. -- Anthony DeStefano destefan at vaxcave.com From eric at interplas.com Mon May 17 00:00:05 2004 From: eric at interplas.com (Eric Wood) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:00:05 -0400 Subject: reboot is shutting down hard drives References: <1084469975.2707.6.camel@enlightenment.baobobmusic.ca> Message-ID: <00a801c43ba1$ea61d4f0$b100000a@M145Primary> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Scott Amort" > I noticed a strange thing after doing all the updates to my FC2T3 system > (as of May 12), and running kernel 2.6.5-1.358. When I do a system > reboot, it actually powers down the hard drives (the message comes up as > Shutting down hda, Shutting down hdb, etc.) Then you can hear the > drives spinning down as if the machine was powering off, but it reboots > as expected. It then takes 10-20 seconds or so for the drives to power > up again before the boot process continues. It is kind of annoying, and > seems unnecessary. Does anyone else experience this behaviour? Under a 2.4 FC 1 kernel with RAID-1, some systems would not properly flush the drives on reboot/halt. So when the system comes back up you'll see a all the raid-1 members having to be rebuilt for the second disk. The work-around is to put a -h in the halt script: HALTARGS="-i -d -h". Maybe the 2.6 guys are trying to fix this for real. -Eric Wood From markf78 at yahoo.com Mon May 17 00:01:00 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OT: best bittorrent client for FC2/Gnome In-Reply-To: <20040516214418.2FF3B73867@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040517000100.29579.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- in anticipation of tuesday's release of FC2, can someone please recommend an excellent bittorrent client for use with FC2/Gnome. i'm currently using Azureus under FC2t3 but i don't particularly like the fact that it does not integrate well with Gnome visually (i believe it uses a KDE interface) or the fact that Java is currently using 288MB memory on my system. can someone please recommend a better client? thanks for your input, much appreciated... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From silverhead at comcast.net Mon May 17 00:22:00 2004 From: silverhead at comcast.net (James W. Bennett) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 19:22:00 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084753320.1981.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 17:17, Confushion wrote: > Paul Iadonisi wrote: > > And the sky is falling, too. These threads are getting old. > > I would say the sky is falling for the user when their previously > working Windows XP partition as completely unbootable. I have not seen > any fix short of wiping the partition table and losing the existing > Windows XP partition. Yes, the sky is falling for that user. It's not > just one or two people here, and it will be a significant number when > the release goes live, if it has not been fixed. > > If Microsoft released an upgrade for Windows that broke Linux > installations in the same way, I think we know what the reaction would > be. Why shouldn't we strive to at least be better than Microsoft? > > > I seriously doubt dual boot systems are a priority for Red Hat, nor > > should they be. A dual boot system, in principle, is a transition > > configuration that need not be well supported in every release. And > > even as a transition, it's not a requirement for the majority of > > installations. Keep a separate Windows box (or boxen) around handle > > the Windows-only requirements. > > I guess we disagree there. I see your viewpoint as being very elitist > and short-sighted. There are lots of reasons why a person would want to > be able to boot both Windows XP and FC2 on a single box. > > My main concern is this problem did not exist in FC1. Let's go over > that again, since I've seen some people post that this is a Windows XP > bug. THIS PROBLEM DIDN'T SHOW UP IN FC1. > > Something has changed in this release which has caused the problem. > Many users have already been affected. The impact of this problem is a > user ending up in a situation where they will not be able to get back > into the Windows XP partition without some serious headaches. I have > not yet seen any solution presented for the problem, but I'd appreciate > a link if you know of one. I certainly looked around when I was hit > with this about a week ago. > > Cheers, > Confushion The best way around this is to not let grub install the boot record on the windows partition. I always install the grub boot record on a floppy disk. Now during the install of FC2 select to install on first linux partition. Likely it may not boot but you can do a linux rescue and then install grub on a floppy disk. I do not let it install on the windows boot record. This comes from experience. -- James W. Bennett From gstool at earthlink.net Mon May 17 00:37:09 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 19:37:09 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> Message-ID: <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> Florian Bachmann wrote: > Confushion schrieb: > >> Folks, >> >> Fedora Core 2 supposedly is about to be released. >> A very serious bug exists which can render dual-boot Windows XP >> installations inoperable. The problem has been discussed in other >> threads here on this list, and can be found in bugzilla, so I won't go >> over it in more detail. Please see bugzilla bugs 120128 and 115980. >> This problem happens on my hardware even if the harddrive is wiped, and >> a fresh Windows XP install is performed before FC2-test3. I know >> about this problem because I experienced it first hand in >> FC2-test3. The only way I've found to work around it is to install >> Windows XP, then FC1, and finally do an UPGRADE to FC2-test3. Something >> is just plain not right with the FC2 "from scratch" installation >> process. This problem did NOT exist in FC1! >> >> >> > A quick fix would be to install GRUB into the boot block of the hard > disk partition that > holds the /boot directory instead of the MBR. You can then dump the > GRUB boot sector > to a file and use the Windows XP boot loader to boot into linux. > > Regards > > Not necessarily true. I ran into this problem installing FC2Testx onto an already existing Linux partition, installing GRUB onto the boot record for that partition, leaving the MBR alone under control of another linux partition. After the install, I added the new boot information to the controlling grub.conf and could boot to everything except windows XP which was still an entry in the previously existing grub.conf. I could not find a way to resurrect windows XP, so ended up reinstalling it. Anthony DeStefano may have pointed out a fix - first one I've heard - to change the BIOS to forced LBA rather than Auto. I hope someone else who has this happen to them can confirm that. I always install a stand-alone copy of a new release like FC2 and try it for a while before updating my previous production system, as FC1 currently is on my system. Anyone doing this that also has XP booting from Grub is VERY likely to encounter this problem. Treating this as a Windows XP problem is burying your head in the sand. As pointed out, it does not happen with FC1 or any former Red Hat release. I did have it occur when installing a copy of Mandrake 10 Community also. Perhaps the 2.6 kernel is involved, as that is a common element in MDK10 and FC2. To solve my problem I finally installed XP to a second harddrive on a separate secondary controller and just boot to it using the BIOS boot menu. I do concur that this is going to hurt the reputation of FC2. Gerry Tool From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon May 17 00:53:29 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:53:29 -0400 Subject: Realplayer10 !! In-Reply-To: <200405170048.40181.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <200405162323.33884.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200405170143.13841.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> <200405170048.40181.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1084755209.1518.16.camel@duergar> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:48, Roland Wolters wrote: > Thanks very much - is there any staement about this by redhat or other people > who make these decisions? > No offense but who the fuck cares? Really? All this hurrah over a crappy media player that can't play anything without binary codecs and rediculous licenses. Ok so there is a media player that is open source (non-GPL of course) that can't play anything. Wow I'm impressed sign me up!!! Why would Red Hat, Mandrake, SuSE, Debian, or anyone else include it? Why? It's completely fucking useless without binary codecs under a fascist license. You can play the same files under xine, mplayer, totem, and vlc which are GPL. But you still need the binary licenses to use any codecs so whats the point? Anyone??? > And, btw.: what do you mean with "Extras"? The fedora.us Repositories? Is this > official? > The day this package is in Fedora is the day I move to another distribution. > Roland > -sb From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon May 17 01:01:24 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 21:01:24 -0400 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <1084742908.4776.20.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <1084725959.21547.30.camel@duergar> <1084742908.4776.20.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <1084755683.1518.27.camel@duergar> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 17:28, Paul Iadonisi wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 12:46, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > [snip] > > > (Ie: Downloading things from suprnova.org > > > is potentially hazardous, especially to Windows systems.) > > > > > > > Not a problem for us though ;-) > > Don't be so sure. I'm sure many torrentzens know about the fake > 'Microsoft Office 2004' release for Mac OS X that is actually a trojan. > But I have to wonder about the 'Azureus Upgrade To 2.0.8.5' on > suprnova.org right this moment. There's no mention of version 2.0.8.5 > at all on http://azureus.sourceforge.net/, so this file is HIGHLY > suspect. And if you don't know, Azureus is an written in Java, which > means it will run on Linux with an appropriate jvm. I feel a *little* > safer running an unknown java app on Linux than *anything* under > windows, but unknown anything is BAD. > The point is, I'm not too cocky about Linux's purported *immunity* to > viruses, trojans, and worms. It's safer, yes, and I don't buy the > argument that's it's less prone to these ailments because it's less > popular, but the moral is, I suppose, BE CAREFUL OUT THERE. > I get azureus from CVS at sourcerforge, lets make no mistake here: the content can be suspect but I always ensure the software that delivers it isn't ;-) Their are trojans for any OS, in Linux though we have a distinct advantage over windows users: we don't have to rely on binaries. -sb From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 01:03:14 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 21:03:14 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:37:09 -0500 Gerry Tool wrote: > I do concur that this is going to hurt the reputation of FC2. Holy shit, too bad there isn't a whiner of the day award! People like you really shouldn't be using test releases. The idea is to find problems and post bug reports not freak out when things aren't working perfectly. Maybe we should just do what Microsoft does and says Dual boot is not supported, you're on your own!! Cheers, Sean From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon May 17 01:06:23 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 21:06:23 -0400 Subject: Realplayer10 !! (was:Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3) In-Reply-To: <40A7C7A6.3020500@wowway.com> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <40A68D92.4060401@wowway.com> <1084700936.27053.56.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A7C7A6.3020500@wowway.com> Message-ID: <1084755982.1518.34.camel@duergar> On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 15:57, D James wrote: > It's available as a rpm package and it installs and plays fine on FC2. > There is a some work to be done, after all this is an alpha product, but > you get all the latest Real codecs supported. It installs the binaries > in /usr/local/. > Available where? -sb From menscher at uiuc.edu Mon May 17 01:36:00 2004 From: menscher at uiuc.edu (Damian Menscher) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:36:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 16 May 2004, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:37:09 -0500 Gerry Tool wrote: > > > I do concur that this is going to hurt the reputation of FC2. > > Holy shit, too bad there isn't a whiner of the day award! People like > you really shouldn't be using test releases. The idea is to find problems > and post bug reports not freak out when things aren't working perfectly. > Maybe we should just do what Microsoft does and says Dual boot is > not supported, you're on your own!! Newsflash: it's no longer a test release. On a related note, anyone starting to think about FC2.1 yet? Damian Menscher -- -=#| Physics Grad Student & SysAdmin @ U Illinois Urbana-Champaign |#=- -=#| 488 LLP, 1110 W. Green St, Urbana, IL 61801 Ofc:(217)333-0038 |#=- -=#| www.uiuc.edu/~menscher/ Fax:(217)333-9819 |#=- -=#| The above opinions are not necessarily those of my employers. |#=- From destefan at vaxcave.com Mon May 17 01:39:09 2004 From: destefan at vaxcave.com (Anthony DeStefano) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 21:39:09 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <40A817BD.3070208@vaxcave.com> Sean Estabrooks wrote: > On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:37:09 -0500 > Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>I do concur that this is going to hurt the reputation of FC2. > > > Holy shit, too bad there isn't a whiner of the day award! People like > you really shouldn't be using test releases. The idea is to find problems > and post bug reports not freak out when things aren't working perfectly. > Maybe we should just do what Microsoft does and says Dual boot is > not supported, you're on your own!! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115980 I sure am happy that it was reported back in February then. Yes I know this is a test release and that's why I don't bitch about it. I took the chance on a test and it almost bit me in the ass. I found my fix inside the bug report. That worked for me, it doesn't work for everyone. The people complaining about xine and real player not in the official distribution are the ones whining. This is a real issue that _will_ make Fedora look bad if it's in Core 2. -- Anthony DeStefano destefan at vaxcave.com From whb at ceimaine.org Mon May 17 01:51:19 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 21:51:19 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <40A81A97.2050809@ceimaine.org> Damian Menscher wrote: >On Sun, 16 May 2004, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > > >>On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:37:09 -0500 Gerry Tool wrote: >> >> >> >>>I do concur that this is going to hurt the reputation of FC2. >>> >>> >>Holy shit, too bad there isn't a whiner of the day award! People like >>you really shouldn't be using test releases. The idea is to find problems >>and post bug reports not freak out when things aren't working perfectly. >>Maybe we should just do what Microsoft does and says Dual boot is >>not supported, you're on your own!! >> >> > >Newsflash: it's no longer a test release. > >On a related note, anyone starting to think about FC2.1 yet? > >Damian Menscher > > Given that FC2 is frozen, should most of these threads move to the fedora-list? At this point, fedora-test should be quiet until the final release date, and then only people testing from rawhide should work through this list. From gillb4 at telusplanet.net Mon May 17 02:22:09 2004 From: gillb4 at telusplanet.net (Bob Gill) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:22:09 -0600 Subject: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release In-Reply-To: <20040516123930.A23342@xos037.xos.nl> References: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> <20040516001822.A12487@xos037.xos.nl> <1084701327.27053.62.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <20040516120513.A23205@xos037.xos.nl> <1084702519.27053.79.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <20040516123930.A23342@xos037.xos.nl> Message-ID: <1084760529.8795.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Is there any other way of getting FC2 (final) early without installing bittorment? From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 02:25:00 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:25:00 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A817BD.3070208@vaxcave.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A817BD.3070208@vaxcave.com> Message-ID: <20040516222500.257fce2e.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:39:09 -0400 Anthony DeStefano wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115980 > > I sure am happy that it was reported back in February then. Yes I know > this is a test release and that's why I don't bitch about it. I took > the chance on a test and it almost bit me in the ass. I found my fix > inside the bug report. That worked for me, it doesn't work for everyone. > > The people complaining about xine and real player not in the official > distribution are the ones whining. This is a real issue that _will_ > make Fedora look bad if it's in Core 2. Nobody seems to think it makes Windows XP look bad. I'm sure they'll be just as understanding about FC2. Funny how people expect more from something they don't pay a dime for. Anyway, i'm sure it will all work soon enough. Cheers, Sean From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon May 17 02:26:31 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:26:31 -0400 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 05:33, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>I was thinking in reference to someone posting about a high >>fragmentation level on a bittorrent acquired iso. I was also thinking >>that bittorrent used bits and pieces of files available. I never thought >>about tcp/ip delivering packets. I assumed that the files on mirrors >>would be streamed consecutively. (keeps stream of data first to last on >>file being downloaded.) > > > This can be overcome in most BT clients by pre-allocating the space for > the download at the beginning. Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A partition previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, for example /mnt/bittorrent? Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be created CD set. > > >>Having a pool of computers grabbing some info from one user and some >>more bits from another source, then another source seems a little too >>open for foul play. > > > Not a problem, each piece is hashed and checked. Anyone feeding you more > than a few bad chunks (accidents do happen) gets banned (and you accept > no more from them). Only possibility I can see for foul play is if the > original seed was a trojan. And that can be checked for with public > md5sums, which already exist. (Ie: Downloading things from suprnova.org > is potentially hazardous, especially to Windows systems.) > Thanks for pointing out the safegaurds setup for a transfer of this type. Would the unmatching chunks be discarded or would the bittorrent process be interrupted? Either way, the bittorrent does not sound as risky as it once did. I still prefer ftp transfers from familiar mirrors. This is mainly because with bittorrent, you have to learn how to open ports for the torrent, people are pulling bits from my machine, I am pulling bits from machines that are unfamiliar to me. With ftp transferring, I get fairly decent rates. I can use a simple GUI ftp program that does not take a lot of time configuring. End point, http, ftp, bittorrent transfers or whatever other method of retrieval of information should exist. One method should not be discontinued just because some think that one method is the "in thing", "the advancement of software at it's best". Thanks for calming my fears with bittorrent transfers and pointing out ways to get a less fragmented image and keep security levels high. Jim From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Mon May 17 02:34:34 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:34:34 -0300 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40A824BA.5000606@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Gerry Tool wrote: > Not necessarily true. I ran into this problem installing FC2Testx > onto an already existing Linux partition, installing GRUB onto the > boot record for that partition, leaving the MBR alone under control of > another linux partition. After the install, I added the new boot > information to the controlling grub.conf and could boot to everything > except windows XP which was still an entry in the previously existing > grub.conf. I could not find a way to resurrect windows XP, so ended > up reinstalling it. > > Anthony DeStefano may have pointed out a fix - first one I've heard - > to change the BIOS to forced LBA rather than Auto. I hope someone > else who has this happen to them can confirm that. > I've run into this bug when test 3 was released. I was having some issues with my computer which made me believe that the hard disk was failing , so I always had the option to reinstall windows.. I tried to configure the disk on the bios to use LBA , but it didnt work at all.. Looks like only in a few cases this setting solves the problem.. Here , I solved this by installing FC2t3 on hdb , removing hdb , installing windows in hda , putting hdb back on system and then installing grub in hda and reconfiguring it... Which was a PITA to do , but at least I got my system to work.. The interesting thing is that in the bug report some people say that this happens only with 120Gb+ disks.. This happened to me with one 40Gb and two 80Gb disks... -- Pedro Macedo From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Mon May 17 02:39:33 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:39:33 -0300 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <40A825E5.4030603@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Jim Cornette wrote: > Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A > partition previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, > for example /mnt/bittorrent? > > Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be > created CD set. > I'm not sure.. The latest version of bittorrent (according to the homepage) , allocates space when it is needed , instead of allocating all the space when starting the download. This can now lead to high fragmentation (as any file changing size can be fragmented)... > > Thanks for pointing out the safegaurds setup for a transfer of this > type. Would the unmatching chunks be discarded or would the bittorrent > process be interrupted? Either way, the bittorrent does not sound as > risky as it once did. I still prefer ftp transfers from familiar > mirrors. This is mainly because with bittorrent, you have to learn how > to open ports for the torrent, people are pulling bits from my > machine, I am pulling bits from machines that are unfamiliar to me. The bad chunks are simply discarded and the download continues. These chunks are then downloaded from other sources and this is repeated untill you get the full file , with the correct checksum... It's the same idea behind the protocol used in xmule/amule/emule/edonkey. Download each part , check it and download from someone else if it is not valid. -- Pedro Macedo From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon May 17 02:53:29 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:53:29 -0400 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <40A825E5.4030603@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> <40A825E5.4030603@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <40A82929.6070805@insight.rr.com> Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A >> partition previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, >> for example /mnt/bittorrent? >> >> Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be >> created CD set. >> > I'm not sure.. The latest version of bittorrent (according to the > homepage) , allocates space when it is needed , instead of allocating > all the space when starting the download. This can now lead to high > fragmentation (as any file changing size can be fragmented)... > So the space allocation was setting aside a certain number of gigabytes (mbytes or whatever) in bittorrent for the transfer. Whaver bytes were retrieved were placed into the set aside space in the location that the final ISO image would be located on the media used for receiving the image. This resulting in a less fragmented transfer. Now it is dynamically located and might throw the retrieved bytes wherever the next available media spot is. I was thinking along the lines of a fresh partition and pointing bittorrent to the specified newly created partition. (misunderstood allocating space ahead of time.) >> >> Thanks for pointing out the safegaurds setup for a transfer of this >> type. Would the unmatching chunks be discarded or would the bittorrent >> process be interrupted? Either way, the bittorrent does not sound as >> risky as it once did. I still prefer ftp transfers from familiar >> mirrors. This is mainly because with bittorrent, you have to learn how >> to open ports for the torrent, people are pulling bits from my >> machine, I am pulling bits from machines that are unfamiliar to me. > > > > The bad chunks are simply discarded and the download continues. These > chunks are then downloaded from other sources and this is repeated > untill you get the full file , with the correct checksum... It's the > same idea behind the protocol used in xmule/amule/emule/edonkey. > Download each part , check it and download from someone else if it is > not valid. Thanks for the info. Jim > > -- > Pedro Macedo > > From smearp at mac.com Mon May 17 03:31:13 2004 From: smearp at mac.com (Sean Earp) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:31:13 -0700 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040516180319.69d4c92c.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040516180319.69d4c92c.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: > >> A very serious bug exists which can render dual-boot Windows XP >> installations inoperable. The problem has been discussed in other >> threads here on this list, and can be found in bugzilla, so I won't go >> over it in more detail. Please see bugzilla bugs 120128 and 115980. >> This problem happens on my hardware even if the harddrive is wiped, >> and >> a fresh Windows XP install is performed before FC2-test3. >> I know about this problem because I experienced it first hand in >> FC2-test3. The only way I've found to work around it is to install >> Windows XP, then FC1, and finally do an UPGRADE to FC2-test3. >> Something >> is just plain not right with the FC2 "from scratch" installation >> process. This problem did NOT exist in FC1! > > > This is actually a bug in Windows XP, please forward your concerns to > Microsoft asking them the correct procedure to dual boot with Linux. > :o) Don't joke about something like that. Microsoft actually has a knowledge base article covering what their customers should do with Linux... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314458 (and I wish i was kidding... ) -Sean :) GPG public key: From gstool at earthlink.net Mon May 17 03:32:13 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:32:13 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> Sean Estabrooks wrote: > On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:37:09 -0500 > Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>I do concur that this is going to hurt the reputation of FC2. > > > Holy shit, too bad there isn't a whiner of the day award! People like > you really shouldn't be using test releases. The idea is to find problems > and post bug reports not freak out when things aren't working perfectly. > Maybe we should just do what Microsoft does and says Dual boot is > not supported, you're on your own!! > > Cheers, > Sean > > Why do you have to get offensive and personal? I've been happily involved in every "Red Hat" test release since the public beta for RHL8. I am NOT WHINING. I've reported a number of bugs for the three FC2 test releases to bugzilla and have put up with whatever problems testing has caused. I am simply concerned with the people who have not been testers who now will be bitten by this problem when they do a fresh install of FC2 on a dual boot system having windows XP, and the reviews that will point this out. Looking back on this thread, you have been a constant complainer about everyone who has the opinion that this is an issue that needs serious attention. Why are you so vitriolic about this issue? Gerry Tool From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon May 17 03:24:43 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:24:43 -0400 Subject: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release In-Reply-To: <1084760529.8795.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <000001c43ac4$e8307f70$0200000a@frank> <20040516001822.A12487@xos037.xos.nl> <1084701327.27053.62.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <20040516120513.A23205@xos037.xos.nl> <1084702519.27053.79.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <20040516123930.A23342@xos037.xos.nl> <1084760529.8795.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040517032443.GA23985@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 08:22:09PM -0600, Bob Gill wrote: > Is there any other way of getting FC2 (final) early without installing > bittorment? Maybe you can find a guy on the corner selling it out of the trunk of his car.... -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon May 17 03:47:14 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:47:14 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040517034714.GA24320@jadzia.bu.edu> On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 10:32:13PM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > Looking back on this thread, you have been a constant complainer about > everyone who has the opinion that this is an issue that needs serious > attention. > Why are you so vitriolic about this issue? Not to excuse excessive vitriol, but as I said in another post, I think it's a predictable response due to the subject line and general tone of the original message. The complaint should be "this bug ought to get fixed", not "FC2 shouldn't be released until my problems are solved". Whether or not it really should be released is a moot point -- it's already out the door. So, that sets the tone for argument -- whether that was the intent or not. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 04:10:19 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 00:10:19 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Sun, 16 May 2004 22:32:13 -0500 Gerry Tool wrote: > Why do you have to get offensive and personal? I've been happily Frankly, I find statements about how bad this is going to look and laying the blame at the feet of Fedora rather offensive. Go complain to Microsoft who charged you money for the privilege of not supporting dual boot with Linux. > involved in every "Red Hat" test release since the public beta for RHL8. > I am NOT WHINING. I've reported a number of bugs for the three FC2 > test releases to bugzilla and have put up with whatever problems testing > has caused. I am simply concerned with the people who have not been > testers who now will be bitten by this problem when they do a fresh > install of FC2 on a dual boot system having windows XP, and the reviews > that will point this out. > > Looking back on this thread, you have been a constant complainer about > everyone who has the opinion that this is an issue that needs serious > attention. > > Why are you so vitriolic about this issue? The thing that is most offensive is when people say... "ohhh this looks so bad" like that's supposed to inspire fear in the developers who will then rush in with a fix. Trying to make people feel bad about how FC2 "will look" in the eyes of somebody is pathetic. Fedora doesn't owe you or them anything. People who report bugs DON'T get flamed. People who make statements about how horrible the world is because of the FREE software they're running, DO. Instead of saying things about how bad this is going to _look_ you could have spent some time installing other versions of Grub to figure out when the problem was introduced. Then you could have HELPED the developer solve the problem faster. Sean. From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 17 05:28:25 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:28:25 +0800 Subject: OT: best bittorrent client for FC2/Gnome In-Reply-To: <20040517000100.29579.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040517000100.29579.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084771704.9692.10.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 08:01, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > in anticipation of tuesday's release of FC2, can someone please recommend an > excellent bittorrent client for use with FC2/Gnome. i'm currently using Azureus > under FC2t3 but i don't particularly like the fact that it does not integrate > well with Gnome visually (i believe it uses a KDE interface) or the fact that > Java is currently using 288MB memory on my system. can someone please recommend > a better client? thanks for your input, much appreciated... > > mark. :-) Then you don't have the latest/correct version. Theres an Azureus out there that uses gtk2 and looks sweet. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_2.0.8.4_linux.GTK.tar.bz2?download > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. > http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ -- Chris Kloiber From zimhat at foou.net Mon May 17 05:41:35 2004 From: zimhat at foou.net (Law Horne) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 00:41:35 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 Message-ID: <1084772495.2778.8.camel@Basanizo> Has no simply tried this? For Windows XP, boot from the install CD and enter the Recovery Console. Then issue the command: Code: bootcfg /rebuild This fixes the bootloader for windows xp. But I do not know if it will work in this situation. I cannot test this as I do not have this problem. Law From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 17 05:49:43 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:49:43 +0800 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084772982.9692.29.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:26, Jim Cornette wrote: > Chris Kloiber wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 05:33, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > > > >>I was thinking in reference to someone posting about a high > >>fragmentation level on a bittorrent acquired iso. I was also thinking > >>that bittorrent used bits and pieces of files available. I never thought > >>about tcp/ip delivering packets. I assumed that the files on mirrors > >>would be streamed consecutively. (keeps stream of data first to last on > >>file being downloaded.) > > > > > > This can be overcome in most BT clients by pre-allocating the space for > > the download at the beginning. > > Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A partition > previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, for example > /mnt/bittorrent? > > Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be > created CD set. No, this is when having bittorrent read teh .torrent file, determine the final size of the download, then dd if=/dev/zero of=filename bs=. Then as the pieces arrive they get written to the correct position within the already existing file, resulting in almost no fragmentation. > >>Having a pool of computers grabbing some info from one user and some > >>more bits from another source, then another source seems a little too > >>open for foul play. > > > > > > Not a problem, each piece is hashed and checked. Anyone feeding you more > > than a few bad chunks (accidents do happen) gets banned (and you accept > > no more from them). Only possibility I can see for foul play is if the > > original seed was a trojan. And that can be checked for with public > > md5sums, which already exist. (Ie: Downloading things from suprnova.org > > is potentially hazardous, especially to Windows systems.) > > > > Thanks for pointing out the safegaurds setup for a transfer of this > type. Would the unmatching chunks be discarded or would the bittorrent > process be interrupted? Either way, the bittorrent does not sound as > risky as it once did. I still prefer ftp transfers from familiar > mirrors. This is mainly because with bittorrent, you have to learn how > to open ports for the torrent, people are pulling bits from my machine, > I am pulling bits from machines that are unfamiliar to me. Pieces with bad hashes are discarded, I believe they never make it to the disk. Most clients I have seen will let you know about it, but continue as if nothing happened. > With ftp transferring, I get fairly decent rates. I can use a simple GUI > ftp program that does not take a lot of time configuring. > > End point, http, ftp, bittorrent transfers or whatever other method of > retrieval of information should exist. One method should not be > discontinued just because some think that one method is the "in thing", > "the advancement of software at it's best". > > Thanks for calming my fears with bittorrent transfers and pointing out > ways to get a less fragmented image and keep security levels high. > > Jim You should give it a try at least once. I recommend you wait for the official bittorrents from Duke University, or from Univerzita Karlova, don't try suprnova.org as that one really sounds fishy to me, especially since they list the DVD iso size at just over 2Gig, and by VPNing into work I see a 4Gig DVD iso. The 2Gig size sounds to me like a DVD image made by my FedoraSync.sh script, which means no SRPMS. If that's all it is, well it's not official but not harmful. But I can't tell that for sure. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 17 05:51:29 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:51:29 +0800 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <40A825E5.4030603@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> <40A825E5.4030603@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <1084773089.9692.32.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:39, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > > > Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A > > partition previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, > > for example /mnt/bittorrent? > > > > Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be > > created CD set. > > > I'm not sure.. The latest version of bittorrent (according to the > homepage) , allocates space when it is needed , instead of allocating > all the space when starting the download. This can now lead to high > fragmentation (as any file changing size can be fragmented)... Yes, that is the default. But defaults can often be changed. -- Chris Kloiber From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 17 06:04:43 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:04:43 +0800 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040516180319.69d4c92c.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1084773883.9692.40.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 11:31, Sean Earp wrote: > > This is actually a bug in Windows XP, please forward your concerns to > > Microsoft asking them the correct procedure to dual boot with Linux. > > :o) > > Don't joke about something like that. Microsoft actually has a > knowledge base article covering what their customers should do with > Linux... > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314458 > > (and I wish i was kidding... ) > > -Sean :) Did you read that article? It sounded unusually Linux friendly for a Microsoft article, once you get past the title. Right near the top it it lets you know you don't *have* to completely get rid of Linux, and that the two OS can peacefully co-exist. It even goes onto saying how Linux "can recognize over 40 partition types including..." -- Chris Kloiber From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 17 06:22:39 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 07:22:39 +0100 Subject: xorg.conf in FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084749466.25836.5.camel@CirithUngol> References: <40A7C602.1040608@xmission.com> <20040516195748.GA12219@psych> <40A7E5A1.6020302@xmission.com> <1084747339.17691.19.camel@CirithUngol> <40A7EFD4.6020103@xmission.com> <1084749466.25836.5.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1084774959.17370.22.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > No, don't copy or move any existing xorg.conf files into /etc/X11. > Use system-config-display to create a new, fresh config file instead > (this is more likely to create a usable file than assuming one you > *find* on the system is valid.. the s-c-d program uses a script that > knows what is valid to create it) Something is being very silly on my system. All I get is Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 412, in ? hardware_state.merge_into(xconfig) NameError: name 'hardware_state' is not defined TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I recommend you wait for the >official bittorrents from Duke University, or from Univerzita Karlova, >don't try suprnova.org as that one really sounds fishy to me, especially >since they list the DVD iso size at just over 2Gig, and by VPNing into >work I see a 4Gig DVD iso. > > The filesize displayed on the website is wrong. $ btshowmetainfo.py FC2-i386-DVD.iso.torrent ... file name.....: FC2-i386-DVD.iso file size.....: 4370640896 (16672 * 262144 + 176128) David. From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Mon May 17 08:03:04 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 09:03:04 +0100 Subject: Settings for yum Message-ID: <1084780983.23909.4.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, Now we've hit FC2, what do I need to bung into yum to ensure FC2 is kept up to date? TTFN Paul -- "Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From francis.souyri at apec.fr Mon May 17 08:13:55 2004 From: francis.souyri at apec.fr (Francis SOUYRI) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:13:55 +0200 Subject: ide/scsi and cdrecord In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF90@hou-msx02.houston.oao.c om> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF90@hou-msx02.houston.oao.co m> Message-ID: <40A87443.7000309@apec.fr> Hello Greg, You have a problem between the kernel "sg" driver and "cdrecord" (Cannot open '/dev/sg*') Take a look at: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01136.html Best regards. Francis King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: >I did use the search mechanism to search all the fedora test archives but >never found what i was looking for. > >for example >http://www.redhat.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=cdrecord&ps=20&o=0&m=all&wm=wrd&w >f=222210&ul=%2Farchives%2Ffedora-test-list > >Archives are great if you know the keywords to get to the material :) > >-Greg > >-----Original Message----- >From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com >[mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Phil Schaffner >Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:25 PM >To: 'fedora-test-list at redhat.com' >Subject: Re: ide/scsi and cdrecord > > >On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 15:10, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > > >>I am having a problem using cdrecord to work with my ide cdrw. There has >>been plenty of google-able material like appending hdc=ide-scsi in >>grub.conf. >> >>So far I have had no luck running cdrecord and while I am looking I was >>hoping someone here may have the answer. >> >> > >Perhaps... >http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01217.html > >The archive knows all (some). Search and you shall (may) discover. > > > > From fedora at andrewfarris.com Mon May 17 09:03:48 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 02:03:48 -0700 Subject: xorg.conf in FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084774959.17370.22.camel@T7.linux> References: <40A7C602.1040608@xmission.com> <20040516195748.GA12219@psych> <40A7E5A1.6020302@xmission.com> <1084747339.17691.19.camel@CirithUngol> <40A7EFD4.6020103@xmission.com> <1084749466.25836.5.camel@CirithUngol> <1084774959.17370.22.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1084784627.32674.4.camel@CirithUngol> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 07:22 +0100, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > > No, don't copy or move any existing xorg.conf files into /etc/X11. > > Use system-config-display to create a new, fresh config file instead > > (this is more likely to create a usable file than assuming one you > > *find* on the system is valid.. the s-c-d program uses a script that > > knows what is valid to create it) > > Something is being very silly on my system. All I get is > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 412, in ? > hardware_state.merge_into(xconfig) > NameError: name 'hardware_state' is not defined > > TTFN > > Paul See this bug. There is one duplicate right now as well. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119620 This is an interesting problem.. I had not noticed this until your email. The comment below (by Mike Harris) says it is necessary to --reconfig due to changes in pyxf86config.. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120950#c8 However, it seems that --reconfig doesn't work for some people. Try running s-c-d without the argument as Gene suggests here: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119620#c9 -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From cheeb2002 at comcast.net Mon May 17 09:09:04 2004 From: cheeb2002 at comcast.net (James Jensen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 04:09:04 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> > On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:39:09 -0400 > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115980 >> >>I sure am happy that it was reported back in February then. Yes I know >>this is a test release and that's why I don't bitch about it. I took >>the chance on a test and it almost bit me in the ass. I found my fix >>inside the bug report. That worked for me, it doesn't work for everyone. >> >>The people complaining about xine and real player not in the official >>distribution are the ones whining. This is a real issue that _will_ >>make Fedora look bad if it's in Core 2. >> >> > >Nobody seems to think it makes Windows XP look bad. I'm sure they'll >be just as understanding about FC2. > > > If only that were true... the problem is that, sadly, it's still the Linux distros that have to prove themselves, not Microsoft. One major flaw in an Free system's worth half a dozen in a proprietary system. -J. Jensen From gene.heskett at verizon.net Mon May 17 09:25:50 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:25:50 -0400 Subject: My shop box, with FC2T3 Message-ID: <200405170525.50304.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings; I finally managed to get a cable strung to the workshop, and that machine hooked up. So I started 'yum update' on it. It got part way thru it, then there was a "connection reset by peer" message and yum exited. On the restart, it took off again and refetched the file it was getting & continued on its merry way. But that error has struck several more times. Each time there is a 'can't get pid' line output to the screen before the proceedure continues, but it does continue from the machines own keyboard. I just ssh'd into it, and it appears that yum has exited again. There is no network activity and yum cannot be restarted again as "the pid exists". An "lsof|grep yum" outputs about 2 screenfulls of data, all quoted as belonging to that pid. Does yum, under those conditions of exit, not properly clean up after itself? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From ml at kevquinn.com Mon May 17 09:32:09 2004 From: ml at kevquinn.com (Kevin F. Quinn) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:32:09 +0200 Subject: FC2test3 - monitor goes off when X starts In-Reply-To: <20040515160011.744A973F80@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040515160011.744A973F80@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A88699.3020507@kevquinn.com> Just an update, if anyone cares. I tried a couple of versions of Knoppix (3.2, 3.4) on the same system and in both, X failed to show anything on the monitor. Again, the text boot-up stuff was fine (fb) but no X display, although the software thinks everything is ok. (also tried hard-wiring the horizontal/vertical frequencies suggested by Hannes Mayer, albeit in Knoppix rather than Fedora, but unfortunately no luck). Tried swapping to a different LCD panel, which worked fine. Tried the original panel on another machine (Dell laptop with ATI card), it worked fine there. Seems to be a combination of the panel ("YPL8017"), the Medion GeForce3 Ti 200 card in the tower, and the 'nv' X video driver. Since it occurs on other distributions, I haven't put anything in bugzilla - it seems most likely to be something in the 'nv' X video driver, or perhaps the DDC interactions between the monitor and the nVidia chip. Kev. From wolters.liste at gmx.net Mon May 17 10:54:21 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:54:21 +0200 Subject: Realplayer10 !! In-Reply-To: <1084755209.1518.16.camel@duergar> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <200405170048.40181.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1084755209.1518.16.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <200405171254.21598.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Stan Bubrouski wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:48, Roland Wolters wrote: > > Thanks very much - is there any staement about this by redhat or other > > people who make these decisions? > > No offense but who the fuck cares? Really? All this hurrah over a > crappy media player that can't play anything without binary codecs and > rediculous licenses. Ok so there is a media player that is open source > (non-GPL of course) that can't play anything. Wow I'm impressed sign me > up!!! > > Why would Red Hat, Mandrake, SuSE, Debian, or anyone else include it? > Why? It's completely fucking useless without binary codecs under a > fascist license. You can play the same files under xine, mplayer, > totem, and vlc which are GPL. But you still need the binary licenses to > use any codecs so whats the point? > > Anyone??? Hm, you are right in some points, although we get a xmms without any mp3 support - so we could get a video plaer without support for non GPL/LGPL codecs as long as it is easy enough to add this support by adding some rpms. That hurts no one I think. > The day this package is in Fedora is the day I move to another > distribution. Do whatever you want to do, why not? Its the freedom of choice. Roland From wolters.liste at gmx.net Mon May 17 10:55:42 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:55:42 +0200 Subject: Realplayer10 !! (was:Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3) In-Reply-To: <1084755982.1518.34.camel@duergar> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <40A7C7A6.3020500@wowway.com> <1084755982.1518.34.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <200405171255.42461.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Stan Bubrouski wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 15:57, D James wrote: > > It's available as a rpm package and it installs and plays fine on FC2. > > There is a some work to be done, after all this is an alpha product, but > > you get all the latest Real codecs supported. It installs the binaries > > in /usr/local/. > > Available where? Have a look at the download page: https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/ Or did you mean something different? Roland From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Mon May 17 11:37:41 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 07:37:41 -0400 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <1084772982.9692.29.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> <1084772982.9692.29.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <40A8A405.3020506@insight.rr.com> Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:26, Jim Cornette wrote: > >>Chris Kloiber wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 05:33, Jim Cornette wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I was thinking in reference to someone posting about a high >>>>fragmentation level on a bittorrent acquired iso. I was also thinking >>>>that bittorrent used bits and pieces of files available. I never thought >>>>about tcp/ip delivering packets. I assumed that the files on mirrors >>>>would be streamed consecutively. (keeps stream of data first to last on >>>>file being downloaded.) >>> >>> >>>This can be overcome in most BT clients by pre-allocating the space for >>>the download at the beginning. >> >>Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A partition >>previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, for example >>/mnt/bittorrent? >> >>Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be >>created CD set. > > > No, this is when having bittorrent read teh .torrent file, determine the > final size of the download, then dd if=/dev/zero of=filename > bs=. Then as the pieces arrive they get written to the > correct position within the already existing file, resulting in almost > no fragmentation. > This sounds like the best approach for retrieving the file. Throwing it in a pre-allocated location that mirrors the original files location. I was wondering if a CDROM created from a fragmented retrieval would hunt all over the place for bits and pieces of files. Those motors of hunting operations from CDROMs can be quite noisy. > >>>>Having a pool of computers grabbing some info from one user and some >>>>more bits from another source, then another source seems a little too >>>>open for foul play. >>> >>> >>>Not a problem, each piece is hashed and checked. Anyone feeding you more >>>than a few bad chunks (accidents do happen) gets banned (and you accept >>>no more from them). Only possibility I can see for foul play is if the >>>original seed was a trojan. And that can be checked for with public >>>md5sums, which already exist. (Ie: Downloading things from suprnova.org >>>is potentially hazardous, especially to Windows systems.) >>> >> >>Thanks for pointing out the safegaurds setup for a transfer of this >>type. Would the unmatching chunks be discarded or would the bittorrent >>process be interrupted? Either way, the bittorrent does not sound as >>risky as it once did. I still prefer ftp transfers from familiar >>mirrors. This is mainly because with bittorrent, you have to learn how >>to open ports for the torrent, people are pulling bits from my machine, >>I am pulling bits from machines that are unfamiliar to me. > > > Pieces with bad hashes are discarded, I believe they never make it to > the disk. Most clients I have seen will let you know about it, but > continue as if nothing happened. > Thanks for the explanation. > >>With ftp transferring, I get fairly decent rates. I can use a simple GUI >>ftp program that does not take a lot of time configuring. >> >>End point, http, ftp, bittorrent transfers or whatever other method of >>retrieval of information should exist. One method should not be >>discontinued just because some think that one method is the "in thing", >>"the advancement of software at it's best". >> >>Thanks for calming my fears with bittorrent transfers and pointing out >>ways to get a less fragmented image and keep security levels high. >> >>Jim > > > You should give it a try at least once. I recommend you wait for the > official bittorrents from Duke University, or from Univerzita Karlova, > don't try suprnova.org as that one really sounds fishy to me, especially > since they list the DVD iso size at just over 2Gig, and by VPNing into > work I see a 4Gig DVD iso. > > The 2Gig size sounds to me like a DVD image made by my FedoraSync.sh > script, which means no SRPMS. If that's all it is, well it's not > official but not harmful. But I can't tell that for sure. > I'll give it a shot. Has this been tried with SELinux enabled. :.) Jim -- Good day to deal with people in high places; particularly lonely stewardesses. From akabi at speakeasy.net Mon May 17 12:25:25 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 08:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A81A97.2050809@ceimaine.org> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A81A97.2050809@ceimaine.org> Message-ID: On May 16, 2004 at 21:51, Will Backman in a soothing rage wrote: [...] >Given that FC2 is frozen, should most of these threads move to the >fedora-list? Nope. It is still 2004-05-17 in Raleigh, NC. >At this point, fedora-test should be quiet until the final release date, >and then only people testing from rawhide should work through this list. Fedora-test should quieten down after the release tomorrow tho... N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Santa's elves are just a bunch of subordinate Clauses. 08:24:11 up 57 days, 20:56, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 09:53:29 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:53:29 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 04:09:04 -0500 James Jensen wrote: > >Nobody seems to think it makes Windows XP look bad. I'm sure they'll > >be just as understanding about FC2. > > > If only that were true... the problem is that, sadly, it's still the > Linux distros that have to prove themselves, not Microsoft. One major > flaw in an Free system's worth half a dozen in a proprietary system. > > -J. Jensen Hi James. This hardly counts as a major flaw and IMHO Linux distros don't have to prove themselves to anyone anyway. If you don't want to use Linux -- don't. Linux provides enough value on it's own merit. No need to convince anyone who has the least bit of doubt. Should be no skin off your back or mine if others choose to use some other operating system. Let them use more expensive, restrictive software if they want. This is especially true for a hobbyist/enthusiast distribution like Fedora. The main point is that there is no room for whining in Fedora. Contribute what you can. Understand that it's not a democracy. Use your freedom to choose a different option if Fedora turns out to not be right for you. Cheers, Sean. From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 11:26:34 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 07:26:34 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20040517072634.120e0d21.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 04:09:04 -0500 James Jensen wrote: > >Nobody seems to think it makes Windows XP look bad. I'm sure they'll > >be just as understanding about FC2. > > > If only that were true... the problem is that, sadly, it's still the > Linux distros that have to prove themselves, not Microsoft. One major > flaw in an Free system's worth half a dozen in a proprietary system. > > -J. Jensen Hi James. This hardly counts as a major flaw and IMHO Linux distros don't have to prove themselves to anyone anyway. If you don't want to use Linux -- don't. Linux provides enough value on it's own merit. No need to convince anyone who has the least bit of doubt. Should be no skin off your back or mine if others choose to use some other operating system. Let them use more expensive, restrictive software if they want. This is especially true for a hobbyist/enthusiast distribution like Fedora. The main point is that there is no room for whining in Fedora. Contribute what you can. Understand that it's not a democracy. Use your freedom to choose a different option if Fedora turns out to not be right for you. Cheers, Sean. From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Mon May 17 13:09:40 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:09:40 -0300 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040516180319.69d4c92c.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <40A8B994.6030107@margo.bijoux.nom.br> >>> A very serious bug exists which can render dual-boot Windows XP >>> installations inoperable. The problem has been discussed in other >>> threads here on this list, and can be found in bugzilla, so I won't go >>> over it in more detail. Please see bugzilla bugs 120128 and 115980. >>> This problem happens on my hardware even if the harddrive is wiped, and >>> a fresh Windows XP install is performed before FC2-test3. >>> I know about this problem because I experienced it first hand in >>> FC2-test3. The only way I've found to work around it is to install >>> Windows XP, then FC1, and finally do an UPGRADE to FC2-test3. >>> Something >>> is just plain not right with the FC2 "from scratch" installation >>> process. This problem did NOT exist in FC1! >> Ok , I'm tired of this discussion leading to nowhere.. So , let's get back on line.. I"ve been bitten by this bug (but thought it was my HD fault , as I never heard about that bug untill yesterday). Now that I know this is a bug and my HD is ok , I want to know: what can we do to collect data to help fix this bug? I've read the bug report and there are no comments from any RH developer about how to get the data needed to fix this. I know I may be bitten by this bug again (probably three times, as I'll reinstall my brother's and my syster's computer with core 2) and I'll have plenty of chances to gather data about this.. 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Fruit flies like a banana." - Marx, Groucho >From: fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com >Reply-To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 117 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:06:00 -0400 (EDT) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from mc6-f35.hotmail.com ([65.54.252.171]) by mc6-s7.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 17 May 2004 02:06:19 -0700 >Received: from hormel.redhat.com ([209.132.177.30]) by mc6-f35.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 17 May 2004 02:06:09 -0700 >Received: from listman.util.phx.redhat.com (listman.util.phx.redhat.com >[10.8.4.110])by hormel.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPid EE7AF739D6; Mon, >17 May 2004 05:06:00 -0400 (EDT) >X-Message-Info: KtxBqYfPyq3sd6kMF6Yul6k9n89FAA0a >X-BeenThere: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: junk >List-Id: For testers of Fedora Core development >releases >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com >Message-Id: <20040517090600.EE7AF739D6 at hormel.redhat.com> >Return-Path: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2004 09:06:09.0853 (UTC) >FILETIME=[31E47ED0:01C43BEE] > >Send fedora-test-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-test-list-owner at redhat.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of fedora-test-list digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: final release - p2p or mirrors (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) > 2. Re: final release - p2p or mirrors (Jim Cornette) > 3. Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 (Sean Earp) > 4. Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 (Gerry Tool) > 5. Re: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release > (Matthew Miller) > 6. Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 > (Matthew Miller) > 7. Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 > (Sean Estabrooks) > 8. Re: OT: best bittorrent client for FC2/Gnome (Chris Kloiber) > 9. Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 (Law Horne) > 10. Re: final release - p2p or mirrors (Chris Kloiber) > 11. Re: final release - p2p or mirrors (Chris Kloiber) > 12. Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 (Chris Kloiber) > 13. Re: xorg.conf in FC2 (Paul) > 14. Re: final release - p2p or mirrors (djh) > 15. Settings for yum (PFJ) > 16. Re: ide/scsi and cdrecord (Francis SOUYRI) > 17. Re: xorg.conf in FC2 (Andrew Farris) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:39:33 -0300 >From: Pedro Fernandes Macedo >Subject: Re: final release - p2p or mirrors >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <40A825E5.4030603 at margo.bijoux.nom.br> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Jim Cornette wrote: > > > Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A > > partition previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, > > for example /mnt/bittorrent? > > > > Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be > > created CD set. > > >I'm not sure.. The latest version of bittorrent (according to the >homepage) , allocates space when it is needed , instead of allocating >all the space when starting the download. This can now lead to high >fragmentation (as any file changing size can be fragmented)... > > > > > Thanks for pointing out the safegaurds setup for a transfer of this > > type. Would the unmatching chunks be discarded or would the bittorrent > > process be interrupted? Either way, the bittorrent does not sound as > > risky as it once did. I still prefer ftp transfers from familiar > > mirrors. This is mainly because with bittorrent, you have to learn how > > to open ports for the torrent, people are pulling bits from my > > machine, I am pulling bits from machines that are unfamiliar to me. > > >The bad chunks are simply discarded and the download continues. These >chunks are then downloaded from other sources and this is repeated >untill you get the full file , with the correct checksum... It's the >same idea behind the protocol used in xmule/amule/emule/edonkey. >Download each part , check it and download from someone else if it is >not valid. > >-- >Pedro Macedo > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:53:29 -0400 >From: Jim Cornette >Subject: Re: final release - p2p or mirrors >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <40A82929.6070805 at insight.rr.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > > Jim Cornette wrote: > > > >> Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A > >> partition previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, > >> for example /mnt/bittorrent? > >> > >> Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be > >> created CD set. > >> > > I'm not sure.. The latest version of bittorrent (according to the > > homepage) , allocates space when it is needed , instead of allocating > > all the space when starting the download. This can now lead to high > > fragmentation (as any file changing size can be fragmented)... > > > >So the space allocation was setting aside a certain number of gigabytes >(mbytes or whatever) in bittorrent for the transfer. Whaver bytes were >retrieved were placed into the set aside space in the location that the >final ISO image would be located on the media used for receiving the >image. This resulting in a less fragmented transfer. Now it is >dynamically located and might throw the retrieved bytes wherever the >next available media spot is. > >I was thinking along the lines of a fresh partition and pointing >bittorrent to the specified newly created partition. (misunderstood >allocating space ahead of time.) > > >> > >> Thanks for pointing out the safegaurds setup for a transfer of this > >> type. Would the unmatching chunks be discarded or would the bittorrent > >> process be interrupted? Either way, the bittorrent does not sound as > >> risky as it once did. I still prefer ftp transfers from familiar > >> mirrors. This is mainly because with bittorrent, you have to learn how > >> to open ports for the torrent, people are pulling bits from my > >> machine, I am pulling bits from machines that are unfamiliar to me. > > > > > > > > The bad chunks are simply discarded and the download continues. These > > chunks are then downloaded from other sources and this is repeated > > untill you get the full file , with the correct checksum... It's the > > same idea behind the protocol used in xmule/amule/emule/edonkey. > > Download each part , check it and download from someone else if it is > > not valid. > >Thanks for the info. > >Jim > > > > > -- > > Pedro Macedo > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:31:13 -0700 >From: Sean Earp >Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > >> A very serious bug exists which can render dual-boot Windows XP > >> installations inoperable. The problem has been discussed in other > >> threads here on this list, and can be found in bugzilla, so I won't go > >> over it in more detail. Please see bugzilla bugs 120128 and 115980. > >> This problem happens on my hardware even if the harddrive is wiped, > >> and > >> a fresh Windows XP install is performed before FC2-test3. > >> I know about this problem because I experienced it first hand in > >> FC2-test3. The only way I've found to work around it is to install > >> Windows XP, then FC1, and finally do an UPGRADE to FC2-test3. > >> Something > >> is just plain not right with the FC2 "from scratch" installation > >> process. This problem did NOT exist in FC1! > > > > > > This is actually a bug in Windows XP, please forward your concerns to > > Microsoft asking them the correct procedure to dual boot with Linux. > > :o) > >Don't joke about something like that. Microsoft actually has a >knowledge base article covering what their customers should do with >Linux... > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314458 > >(and I wish i was kidding... ) > >-Sean :) > >GPG public key: > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:32:13 -0500 >From: Gerry Tool >Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <40A8323D.6010106 at earthlink.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Sean Estabrooks wrote: > > On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:37:09 -0500 > > Gerry Tool wrote: > > > > > >>I do concur that this is going to hurt the reputation of FC2. > > > > > > Holy shit, too bad there isn't a whiner of the day award! People like > > you really shouldn't be using test releases. The idea is to find >problems > > and post bug reports not freak out when things aren't working perfectly. > > Maybe we should just do what Microsoft does and says Dual boot is > > not supported, you're on your own!! > > > > Cheers, > > Sean > > > > >Why do you have to get offensive and personal? I've been happily >involved in every "Red Hat" test release since the public beta for RHL8. > I am NOT WHINING. I've reported a number of bugs for the three FC2 >test releases to bugzilla and have put up with whatever problems testing >has caused. I am simply concerned with the people who have not been >testers who now will be bitten by this problem when they do a fresh >install of FC2 on a dual boot system having windows XP, and the reviews >that will point this out. > >Looking back on this thread, you have been a constant complainer about >everyone who has the opinion that this is an issue that needs serious >attention. > >Why are you so vitriolic about this issue? > >Gerry Tool > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:24:43 -0400 >From: Matthew Miller >Subject: Re: RedHat Desktop was or is Fedora Core 2 Release >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <20040517032443.GA23985 at jadzia.bu.edu> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 08:22:09PM -0600, Bob Gill wrote: > > Is there any other way of getting FC2 (final) early without installing > > bittorment? > >Maybe you can find a guy on the corner selling it out of the trunk of his >car.... > >-- >Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org >Boston University Linux ------> > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:47:14 -0400 >From: Matthew Miller >Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <20040517034714.GA24320 at jadzia.bu.edu> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 10:32:13PM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > > Looking back on this thread, you have been a constant complainer about > > everyone who has the opinion that this is an issue that needs serious > > attention. > > Why are you so vitriolic about this issue? > >Not to excuse excessive vitriol, but as I said in another post, I think >it's >a predictable response due to the subject line and general tone of the >original message. The complaint should be "this bug ought to get fixed", >not >"FC2 shouldn't be released until my problems are solved". Whether or not it >really should be released is a moot point -- it's already out the door. So, >that sets the tone for argument -- whether that was the intent or not. > >-- >Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org >Boston University Linux ------> > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 00:10:19 -0400 >From: Sean Estabrooks >Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml at rogers.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >On Sun, 16 May 2004 22:32:13 -0500 >Gerry Tool wrote: > > > Why do you have to get offensive and personal? I've been happily > >Frankly, I find statements about how bad this is going to look and laying >the blame at the feet of Fedora rather offensive. Go complain to >Microsoft who charged you money for the privilege of not supporting >dual boot with Linux. > > > involved in every "Red Hat" test release since the public beta for RHL8. > > I am NOT WHINING. I've reported a number of bugs for the three FC2 > > test releases to bugzilla and have put up with whatever problems testing > > has caused. I am simply concerned with the people who have not been > > testers who now will be bitten by this problem when they do a fresh > > install of FC2 on a dual boot system having windows XP, and the reviews > > that will point this out. > > > > Looking back on this thread, you have been a constant complainer about > > everyone who has the opinion that this is an issue that needs serious > > attention. > > > > Why are you so vitriolic about this issue? > >The thing that is most offensive is when people say... "ohhh this looks so >bad" >like that's supposed to inspire fear in the developers who will then rush >in with >a fix. Trying to make people feel bad about how FC2 "will look" in the >eyes of >somebody is pathetic. Fedora doesn't owe you or them anything. > >People who report bugs DON'T get flamed. People who make statements >about how horrible the world is because of the FREE software they're >running, DO. > >Instead of saying things about how bad this is going to _look_ you could >have spent >some time installing other versions of Grub to figure out when the problem >was introduced. Then you could have HELPED the developer solve the >problem >faster. > >Sean. > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:28:25 +0800 >From: Chris Kloiber >Subject: Re: OT: best bittorrent client for FC2/Gnome >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <1084771704.9692.10.camel at galileo.ckloiber.com> >Content-Type: text/plain > >On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 08:01, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > > Hello- > > > > in anticipation of tuesday's release of FC2, can someone please >recommend an > > excellent bittorrent client for use with FC2/Gnome. i'm currently using >Azureus > > under FC2t3 but i don't particularly like the fact that it does not >integrate > > well with Gnome visually (i believe it uses a KDE interface) or the fact >that > > Java is currently using 288MB memory on my system. can someone please >recommend > > a better client? thanks for your input, much appreciated... > > > > mark. :-) > >Then you don't have the latest/correct version. Theres an Azureus out >there that uses gtk2 and looks sweet. > >http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_2.0.8.4_linux.GTK.tar.bz2?download > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. > > http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ >-- >Chris Kloiber > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 9 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 00:41:35 -0500 >From: Law Horne >Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <1084772495.2778.8.camel at Basanizo> >Content-Type: text/plain > >Has no simply tried this? > >For Windows XP, boot from the install CD and enter the Recovery Console. >Then issue the command: >Code: >bootcfg /rebuild > > >This fixes the bootloader for windows xp. But I do not know if it will >work in this situation. >I cannot test this as I do not have this problem. > > >Law > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 10 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:49:43 +0800 >From: Chris Kloiber >Subject: Re: final release - p2p or mirrors >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <1084772982.9692.29.camel at galileo.ckloiber.com> >Content-Type: text/plain > >On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:26, Jim Cornette wrote: > > Chris Kloiber wrote: > > > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 05:33, Jim Cornette wrote: > > > > > > > > >>I was thinking in reference to someone posting about a high > > >>fragmentation level on a bittorrent acquired iso. I was also thinking > > >>that bittorrent used bits and pieces of files available. I never >thought > > >>about tcp/ip delivering packets. I assumed that the files on mirrors > > >>would be streamed consecutively. (keeps stream of data first to last >on > > >>file being downloaded.) > > > > > > > > > This can be overcome in most BT clients by pre-allocating the space >for > > > the download at the beginning. > > > > Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A partition > > previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, for example > > /mnt/bittorrent? > > > > Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be > > created CD set. > >No, this is when having bittorrent read teh .torrent file, determine the >final size of the download, then dd if=/dev/zero of=filename >bs=. Then as the pieces arrive they get written to the >correct position within the already existing file, resulting in almost >no fragmentation. > > > >>Having a pool of computers grabbing some info from one user and some > > >>more bits from another source, then another source seems a little too > > >>open for foul play. > > > > > > > > > Not a problem, each piece is hashed and checked. Anyone feeding you >more > > > than a few bad chunks (accidents do happen) gets banned (and you >accept > > > no more from them). Only possibility I can see for foul play is if the > > > original seed was a trojan. And that can be checked for with public > > > md5sums, which already exist. (Ie: Downloading things from >suprnova.org > > > is potentially hazardous, especially to Windows systems.) > > > > > > > Thanks for pointing out the safegaurds setup for a transfer of this > > type. Would the unmatching chunks be discarded or would the bittorrent > > process be interrupted? Either way, the bittorrent does not sound as > > risky as it once did. I still prefer ftp transfers from familiar > > mirrors. This is mainly because with bittorrent, you have to learn how > > to open ports for the torrent, people are pulling bits from my machine, > > I am pulling bits from machines that are unfamiliar to me. > >Pieces with bad hashes are discarded, I believe they never make it to >the disk. Most clients I have seen will let you know about it, but >continue as if nothing happened. > > > With ftp transferring, I get fairly decent rates. I can use a simple GUI > > ftp program that does not take a lot of time configuring. > > > > End point, http, ftp, bittorrent transfers or whatever other method of > > retrieval of information should exist. One method should not be > > discontinued just because some think that one method is the "in thing", > > "the advancement of software at it's best". > > > > Thanks for calming my fears with bittorrent transfers and pointing out > > ways to get a less fragmented image and keep security levels high. > > > > Jim > >You should give it a try at least once. I recommend you wait for the >official bittorrents from Duke University, or from Univerzita Karlova, >don't try suprnova.org as that one really sounds fishy to me, especially >since they list the DVD iso size at just over 2Gig, and by VPNing into >work I see a 4Gig DVD iso. > >The 2Gig size sounds to me like a DVD image made by my FedoraSync.sh >script, which means no SRPMS. If that's all it is, well it's not >official but not harmful. But I can't tell that for sure. > >-- >Chris Kloiber > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 11 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:51:29 +0800 >From: Chris Kloiber >Subject: Re: final release - p2p or mirrors >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <1084773089.9692.32.camel at galileo.ckloiber.com> >Content-Type: text/plain > >On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:39, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > > Jim Cornette wrote: > > > > > Would this be like a partition with no prior data installed? A > > > partition previously formatted and mounted to a specified point. Say, > > > for example /mnt/bittorrent? > > > > > > Having a low fragmentation level would be desirable goal for a to be > > > created CD set. > > > > > I'm not sure.. The latest version of bittorrent (according to the > > homepage) , allocates space when it is needed , instead of allocating > > all the space when starting the download. This can now lead to high > > fragmentation (as any file changing size can be fragmented)... > >Yes, that is the default. But defaults can often be changed. > >-- >Chris Kloiber > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 12 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:04:43 +0800 >From: Chris Kloiber >Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <1084773883.9692.40.camel at galileo.ckloiber.com> >Content-Type: text/plain > >On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 11:31, Sean Earp wrote: > > > > This is actually a bug in Windows XP, please forward your concerns to > > > Microsoft asking them the correct procedure to dual boot with Linux. > > > :o) > > > > Don't joke about something like that. Microsoft actually has a > > knowledge base article covering what their customers should do with > > Linux... > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314458 > > > > (and I wish i was kidding... ) > > > > -Sean :) > >Did you read that article? It sounded unusually Linux friendly for a >Microsoft article, once you get past the title. Right near the top it it >lets you know you don't *have* to completely get rid of Linux, and that >the two OS can peacefully co-exist. It even goes onto saying how Linux >"can recognize over 40 partition types including..." > >-- >Chris Kloiber > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 07:22:39 +0100 >From: Paul >Subject: Re: xorg.conf in FC2 >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <1084774959.17370.22.camel at T7.linux> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi, > > > No, don't copy or move any existing xorg.conf files into /etc/X11. > > Use system-config-display to create a new, fresh config file instead > > (this is more likely to create a usable file than assuming one you > > *find* on the system is valid.. the s-c-d program uses a script that > > knows what is valid to create it) > >Something is being very silly on my system. All I get is > >Traceback (most recent call last): >File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 412, in ? > hardware_state.merge_into(xconfig) >NameError: name 'hardware_state' is not defined > >TTFN > >Paul >-- >"Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of >them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, >gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time >and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson >-------------- next part -------------- >A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >Name: not available >Type: application/pgp-signature >Size: 189 bytes >Desc: This is a digitally signed message part >Url : >/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20040517/d1613509/attachment.bin > >------------------------------ > >Message: 14 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:58:24 +1000 >From: djh >Subject: Re: final release - p2p or mirrors >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <40A86290.9080504 at iinet.net.au> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Chris Kloiber wrote: > > >You should give it a try at least once. I recommend you wait for the > >official bittorrents from Duke University, or from Univerzita Karlova, > >don't try suprnova.org as that one really sounds fishy to me, especially > >since they list the DVD iso size at just over 2Gig, and by VPNing into > >work I see a 4Gig DVD iso. > > > > >The filesize displayed on the website is wrong. > >$ btshowmetainfo.py FC2-i386-DVD.iso.torrent >... >file name.....: FC2-i386-DVD.iso >file size.....: 4370640896 (16672 * 262144 + 176128) > >David. > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 15 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 09:03:04 +0100 >From: PFJ >Subject: Settings for yum >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <1084780983.23909.4.camel at jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi, > >Now we've hit FC2, what do I need to bung into yum to ensure FC2 is kept >up to date? > >TTFN > >Paul >-- >"Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming >evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so >re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner >-------------- next part -------------- >A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >Name: not available >Type: application/pgp-signature >Size: 189 bytes >Desc: This is a digitally signed message part >Url : >/archives/fedora-test-list/attachments/20040517/d8467837/attachment.bin > >------------------------------ > >Message: 16 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:13:55 +0200 >From: Francis SOUYRI >Subject: Re: ide/scsi and cdrecord >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <40A87443.7000309 at apec.fr> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hello Greg, > >You have a problem between the kernel "sg" driver and "cdrecord" (Cannot >open '/dev/sg*') > >Take a look at: >http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01136.html > >Best regards. > >Francis > >King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > > >I did use the search mechanism to search all the fedora test archives but > >never found what i was looking for. > > > >for example > >http://www.redhat.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=cdrecord&ps=20&o=0&m=all&wm=wrd&w > >f=222210&ul=%2Farchives%2Ffedora-test-list > > > >Archives are great if you know the keywords to get to the material :) > > > >-Greg > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > >[mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Phil Schaffner > >Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:25 PM > >To: 'fedora-test-list at redhat.com' > >Subject: Re: ide/scsi and cdrecord > > > > > >On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 15:10, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > > > > > >>I am having a problem using cdrecord to work with my ide cdrw. There has > >>been plenty of google-able material like appending hdc=ide-scsi in > >>grub.conf. > >> > >>So far I have had no luck running cdrecord and while I am looking I was > >>hoping someone here may have the answer. > >> > >> > > > >Perhaps... > >http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01217.html > > > >The archive knows all (some). Search and you shall (may) discover. > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 17 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 02:03:48 -0700 >From: Andrew Farris >Subject: Re: xorg.conf in FC2 >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <1084784627.32674.4.camel at CirithUngol> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 07:22 +0100, Paul wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > No, don't copy or move any existing xorg.conf files into /etc/X11. > > > Use system-config-display to create a new, fresh config file instead > > > (this is more likely to create a usable file than assuming one you > > > *find* on the system is valid.. the s-c-d program uses a script that > > > knows what is valid to create it) > > > > Something is being very silly on my system. All I get is > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 412, in ? > > hardware_state.merge_into(xconfig) > > NameError: name 'hardware_state' is not defined > > > > TTFN > > > > Paul > >See this bug. There is one duplicate right now as well. >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119620 > >This is an interesting problem.. I had not noticed this until your >email. The comment below (by Mike Harris) says it is necessary to >--reconfig due to changes in pyxf86config.. >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120950#c8 > >However, it seems that --reconfig doesn't work for some people. Try >running s-c-d without the argument as Gene suggests here: >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119620#c9 > >-- >Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) >fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net >"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men >to do nothing." 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Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From psavoie1783 at rogers.com Mon May 17 09:46:16 2004 From: psavoie1783 at rogers.com (Phil Savoie) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:46:16 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <40A889E8.3040209@rogers.com> Sean Estabrooks wrote: > On Sun, 16 May 2004 22:32:13 -0500 > Gerry Tool wrote: > > >>Why do you have to get offensive and personal? I've been happily > > > Frankly, I find statements about how bad this is going to look and laying > the blame at the feet of Fedora rather offensive. Go complain to > Microsoft who charged you money for the privilege of not supporting > dual boot with Linux. > > >>involved in every "Red Hat" test release since the public beta for RHL8. >> I am NOT WHINING. I've reported a number of bugs for the three FC2 >>test releases to bugzilla and have put up with whatever problems testing >>has caused. I am simply concerned with the people who have not been >>testers who now will be bitten by this problem when they do a fresh >>install of FC2 on a dual boot system having windows XP, and the reviews >>that will point this out. >> >>Looking back on this thread, you have been a constant complainer about >>everyone who has the opinion that this is an issue that needs serious >>attention. >> >>Why are you so vitriolic about this issue? > > > The thing that is most offensive is when people say... "ohhh this looks so bad" > like that's supposed to inspire fear in the developers who will then rush in with > a fix. Trying to make people feel bad about how FC2 "will look" in the eyes of > somebody is pathetic. Fedora doesn't owe you or them anything. > > Sure Sean. This is a product. This is no different than a car company promoting a new state of the art car. Everything works except they don't tell you that the brakes that used to work in reverse last year don't this year. But according to you, if you need to back up, you are a loser. People who report bugs DON'T get flamed. People who make statements > about how horrible the world is because of the FREE software they're running, DO. > > Instead of saying things about how bad this is going to _look_ you could have spent > some time installing other versions of Grub to figure out when the problem > was introduced. Then you could have HELPED the developer solve the problem > faster. > > Sean. > > Phil Savoie From zimhat at foou.net Mon May 17 13:27:00 2004 From: zimhat at foou.net (Law Horne) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 08:27:00 -0500 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 Message-ID: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> Ok I posted this A little while ago. But since everyone was still arguing about this issue no one seem to notice. So I do not know if it helps or not. SO I'M REPOSTING it. > Has no one simply tried this? > > For Windows XP, boot from the install CD and enter the Recovery > Console. > Then issue the command: > Code: > bootcfg /rebuild > > > This fixes the bootloader for windows xp. But I do not know if it will > work in this situation. > I cannot test this as I do not have this problem. > > > Law Let me know if it works or not. I hope it helps. Law From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk Mon May 17 13:31:08 2004 From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:31:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: New Torrent Files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 17 May 2004, Dg B wrote: > Here are some new torrent files. > > from kuix.de : > > http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-isos.torrent > http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-DVD.torrent > > LEASE BE A NICE PERSON and do not quit your downloader after you have > finished downloading, at least for a while. Actually for best use of torrent join an existing one rather than setting up your own. Big torrents surely work much better than several little ones. Michael Young From jreiser at BitWagon.com Mon May 17 14:10:41 2004 From: jreiser at BitWagon.com (John Reiser) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 07:10:41 -0700 Subject: New Torrent Files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A8C7E1.9040208@BitWagon.com> > Actually for best use of torrent join an existing one rather than setting > up your own. Big torrents surely work much better than several little > ones. It depends. Transmission delays on trans-oceanic torrents reduce throughput and change the operating envelope of the protocol, so one torrent per low-delay, low-contention subnet (such as a continent) often helps. Undersea fiber is still expensive, and use by a torrent can skew pricing decisions for next year, not always in the direction favored by users of torrents. A torrent with more than several hundred nodes is also slower. The tracker can get overloaded, and/or random noise on just a few paths can get amplified into torrent-wide instabilities and/or inefficiencies. I observed this on the duke.edu torrent for FC2T3. Probably you can see it tomorrow, too. Even on a fast CPU with plenty of RAM and disk bandwidth, the number of connections is restricted to something like 100, and on a timescale of a minute or two, you will only talk to a couple dozen other nodes. So in practice with moderately reliable links, then there is a bounded optimum size for a torrent; and today it is likely to be a few hundred nodes containing a couple dozen seeds. -- John Reiser, jreiser at BitWagon.com From balay at fastmail.fm Mon May 17 14:21:32 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 09:21:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: New Torrent Files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 17 May 2004, M A Young wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2004, Dg B wrote: > > > Here are some new torrent files. > > > > from kuix.de : > > > > http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-isos.torrent > > http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-DVD.torrent > > > > LEASE BE A NICE PERSON and do not quit your downloader after you have > > finished downloading, at least for a while. > > Actually for best use of torrent join an existing one rather than setting > up your own. Big torrents surely work much better than several little > ones. I keep getting connection errors from the tracker posted on slashdot http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/1752/FC2-i386-isos.torrent I already have 20% download from this site.. Now resumig with http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-isos.torrent It starts at 0% - not 20% .. wierd.. I guess I'll just wait for duke torrent tomorrow.. Satish From jwramsey at pobox.com Mon May 17 14:22:08 2004 From: jwramsey at pobox.com (Jim Ramsey) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:22:08 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 audio problems with Inspiron 3200 Message-ID: <200405171022.08580.jwramsey@pobox.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I normally run RH8 on my laptop, but I have a spare HD for it and decided to try run Fedora. This version has worked well, except for audio which has been a continuing headache for me under Linux. The sound chip is the CS4237b Note that not BIOS changes have been made between these settings. The sound works under Win98. Relevent Device Manager output shows" Class: Sound, video and game controllers Device: Crystal PnP Audio System Control Registers Resources: I/O: 0F00h-0F07h Device: Crystal PnP audio system CODEC IRQ: 05 I/O: 0530h-0537h I/O: 0388h-038Bh I/O: 0220h-022Fh DMA: 00 DMA:01 Sound works on RH8, but I had to buy the non-free OSS sound driver to get it to work. the devices.cfg file: -gen4237 #Generic Crystal CS4237 based soundcard or motherboard (non PnP) CS4232MPU ON P330 I9 CS423X ON P530 I5 D0 d1 OPL3 ON P388 I copied some of the work getting sound to work that appears in this list and customized it to fit. the /etc/modprobe.conf file: # ALSA portion alias char-major-116* snd alias snd-card-0 snd-cs4236 options snd-cs4236 cport=0xf00 port=0x530 irq=5 fm_port=0x388 dma1=0 dma2=1 sb_port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 mpu_irq=9 # OSS/Free portion alias char-major-14* soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 # card #1 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss install snd-card-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-card-0 && { /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; } remove snd-card-0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; } remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >>/dev/null 2>&1 || :; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove This is what happens: modprobe snd-card-0 FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.358/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): No such device lsmod returns: Module Size Used by snd_opl3_lib 7424 0 snd_hwdep 6276 1 snd_opl3_lib snd_cs4236_lib 12928 0 snd_mpu401_uart 4864 0 snd_rawmidi 17184 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 6152 2 snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi snd_cs4231_lib 18948 1 snd_cs4236_lib snd_pcm 68872 2 snd_cs4236_lib,snd_cs4231_lib snd_timer 17156 3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm snd 38372 9 snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_cs4236_lib,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 6112 1 snd snd_page_alloc 7940 2 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm parport_pc 19392 1 lp 8236 0 parport 29640 2 parport_pc,lp autofs4 10624 0 ds 12292 4 yenta_socket 15104 1 pcmcia_core 46792 2 ds,yenta_socket sunrpc 101064 1 8139too 17792 0 mii 3584 1 8139too floppy 47440 0 sg 27552 0 scsi_mod 91344 1 sg microcode 4768 0 dm_mod 33184 0 uhci_hcd 23708 0 ipv6 184288 8 ext3 102376 2 jbd 40216 1 ext3 The same message shows up if I just boot up to telinit level 3 or 5. Any ideas? - -- Regards, Jim Ramsey -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqMqQDGYt4MQyo3IRAnZSAJ9ZogNDcgMf2ixQNcZpaf1vSxR4HQCg5YSM wi1TnKfX57TDCcZEKXaZ7sk= =z50t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cra at WPI.EDU Mon May 17 14:26:22 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:26:22 -0400 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <1084772982.9692.29.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> <1084772982.9692.29.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> Message-ID: <20040517142622.GM12303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 01:49:43PM +0800, Chris Kloiber wrote: > No, this is when having bittorrent read teh .torrent file, determine the > final size of the download, then dd if=/dev/zero of=filename > bs=. Then as the pieces arrive they get written to the > correct position within the already existing file, resulting in almost > no fragmentation. I don't think this will work. A file full of zeros may be written as a sparse file, with no wasted all-zero disk blocks actually allocated. From csm at MoonGroup.com Mon May 17 14:31:28 2004 From: csm at MoonGroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:31:28 -0400 Subject: openoffice crashes with x86_64 Message-ID: <1084804288.20765.0.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> It appears that openoffice is not usable with FC2T3 x86_64. It crashes everytime I try to run it (doesn't matter which app). -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I found a bug which seems to indicate that installing OO on 64bit is a waste of time... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123168 Though this applies to RHEL3 it appears to me to probably be relvant for Fedora too. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jerrywone at cox.net Mon May 17 15:03:34 2004 From: jerrywone at cox.net (jerry) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:03:34 -0400 Subject: openoffice crashes with x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1084804288.20765.0.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> References: <1084804288.20765.0.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> Message-ID: <40A8D446.1020009@cox.net> Chuck Mead wrote: >It appears that openoffice is not usable with FC2T3 x86_64. It crashes >everytime I try to run it (doesn't matter which app). > > > works on mine ok. the core os hangs or pauses repeatedly, but oo has run when the rest is going ok. ymmv as always. jerry From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon May 17 15:08:59 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:08:59 -0400 Subject: Settings for yum In-Reply-To: <1084780983.23909.4.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1084780983.23909.4.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1084806539.1881.534.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 04:03, PFJ wrote: > Hi,Now we've hit FC2, what do I need to bung into yum to ensure FC2 is > kept up to date? Only supported approach is, of course, to do a clean FC2 install; however, take a look at /etc/yum.conf.rpmnew and edit to change to your favorite mirror[s]. Phil From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 17 15:20:57 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:20:57 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A889E8.3040209@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A889E8.3040209@rogers.com> Message-ID: <604aa79104051708203b6ff541@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 05:46:16 -0400, Phil Savoie wrote: > Sure Sean. This is a product. This is no different than a car company > promoting a new state of the art car. Everything works except they > don't tell you that the brakes that used to work in reverse last year > don't this year. But according to you, if you need to back up, you are > a loser. You need to be very careful about analogies to cars. Fedora is not a product, its important to be clear about that, its a project. And lets also be clear about this issue and issue like it in general. A lot of bugs are difficult for developers to reproduce locally on their hardware. A lot of bugs can arise because of complicated interactions between hardware and software. Whatever is happening with fedora in this case might be a kernel 2.6 issue, it might be a partitioning tool issue, it might be a grub issue, it might be a bios issue, it might be a combination of all those or none. Whatever it is, I'm very much NOT convinced this is as wide spread as people would believe. I have heard fc2t3 install dual boot scenarios that have worked without a hitch. Hell even one bug reporter in the comments tried to reproduce the problem after a bios upgrade and could not...that suggests something. -jef From greg at gulik.org Mon May 17 15:36:12 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:36:12 -0500 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <1084725837.21547.28.camel@duergar> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <1084687797.13998.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7616C.2030504@sbcglobal.net> <200405161148.24740.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <40A7905E.9030607@gulik.org> <1084725837.21547.28.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <40A8DBEC.70008@gulik.org> That's a very good question. It works on all my desktops and laptops at home but when I installed FC1 on my dad's PC I was never able to get realplayer working there and it gives me the same error. I'm guessing it has something to do with the sound card in that box. Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > I already have all that stuff, but rp9 still will not work. It > complains: > > "Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it." > > Any thoughts? -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From whb at ceimaine.org Mon May 17 15:49:23 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:49:23 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <604aa79104051708203b6ff541@mail.gmail.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A889E8.3040209@rogers.com> <604aa79104051708203b6ff541@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1084808962.2627.48.camel@d1ntpm41> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 11:20, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2004 05:46:16 -0400, Phil Savoie wrote: > > Sure Sean. This is a product. This is no different than a car company > > promoting a new state of the art car. Everything works except they > > don't tell you that the brakes that used to work in reverse last year > > don't this year. But according to you, if you need to back up, you are > > a loser. > > You need to be very careful about analogies to cars. Fedora is not a > product, its important to be clear about that, its a project. > > And lets also be clear about this issue and issue like it in general. > A lot of bugs are difficult for developers to reproduce locally on > their hardware. A lot of bugs can arise because of complicated > interactions between hardware and software. Whatever is happening with > fedora in this case might be a kernel 2.6 issue, it might be a > partitioning tool issue, it might be a grub issue, it might be a bios > issue, it might be a combination of all those or none. Whatever it > is, I'm very much NOT convinced this is as wide spread as people would > believe. I have heard fc2t3 install dual boot scenarios that have > worked without a hitch. Hell even one bug reporter in the comments > tried to reproduce the problem after a bios upgrade and could > not...that suggests something. > > > -jef > There are some real issues with expectations. Fedora is free, but controlled by RedHat. Paid people from RedHat are working on the project, but there is no official support. The RedHat enterprise line is designed for people who what to have official support. RedHat controls the project, but has no obligations to work on it at all. It does help the company if they do, as it gives them a way to test software for their enterprise products, and they were very clear about that. Even if Fedora is broken quite often (which should be expected given the youth behind a lot of the technology in it), it is all good for the community at large. RedHat has always promoted open-source, and any improvements do add to the pool of stuff that we can all draw from. Maybe Fedora Core 2 will just be a good proving ground for the 2.6 kernel, and most other distributions will benefit from our experiences. That is what open source is about. Our efforts add water to the lake, and all boats rise. From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Mon May 17 15:53:51 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:53:51 -0300 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> Message-ID: <40A8E00F.80009@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Law Horne wrote: >Ok I posted this A little while ago. But since everyone was still >arguing about this issue no one seem to notice. So I do not know if it >helps or not. SO I'M REPOSTING it. > > > thx , but I'm looking for ways to gather data to be used to find the reasons of this problem so it can be added to the bug report and fixed... -- Pedro Macedo From rpjday at mindspring.com Mon May 17 16:02:04 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 May 2004, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > This hardly counts as a major flaw and IMHO Linux distros don't have to > prove themselves to anyone anyway. yes it is, and yes they do. get a grip. given the pitched battle between microsoft and linux at the moment, how many potential converts (many of whom will be running XP) do you think will be impressed with the attitude of, "hey, this is linux, we don't give a crap about your windows stuff." oh, yeah, that'll win piles of new friends. rday From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Mon May 17 16:33:34 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:33:34 +0200 Subject: vmware 4.51, FC2T3 [x86_64] - had had anyone success? Message-ID: <1084811614.5889.10.camel@littlePiet> I'm running FC2T3 (kernel 358) and tried to install vmware 4.51 workstation. Did anyone succeed running this combination? While trying to compile the kernel modules some error messages came up here: vmware...../driver.c (131): Warning: Initialising incompatible type of pointer vmware...../driver.c (135): Warning: Initialising incompatible type of pointer and some others, resulting in an unknown symbol and compilation aborted. On google I found vmware-any-any-update67, but no hint how to install it. And it seems to be for the i386 arch. Any help appreciated. Peter From jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl Mon May 17 16:40:52 2004 From: jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl (David Jansen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:40:52 +0200 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A8E00F.80009@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40A8E00F.80009@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <20040517164052.GA9669@strw.leidenuniv.nl> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:53:51PM -0300, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Law Horne wrote: > > >Ok I posted this A little while ago. But since everyone was still > >arguing about this issue no one seem to notice. So I do not know if it > >helps or not. SO I'M REPOSTING it. > > > > > > > thx , but I'm looking for ways to gather data to be used to find the > reasons of this problem so it can be added to the bug report and fixed... > > -- > Pedro Macedo > I'm not at all an expert on any of the items related to this bug (grub, anaconda, disk druid, bios, ...) but I think we can narrow down the problem like this: - if it were just a grub problem, it would also happen on upgrades whereas so far it has been reported to happen on fresh FC2T? installs only - the bios-workarounds that some have posted seem to suggest there is something wrong in the partition table. There was also a report of errors from partition magic, which seems to point in the same direction. Now, does grub modify the partition table? I don't know, I would think it only touches the boot record and its own configuration files. What does anaconda/disk druid do when you don't change the partitions on a new install (e.g. wipe out your existing linux partitions)? Does it then still rewrite the partition table? - if I remember correctly, anaconda has an option to either modify the existing boot loader or reinstall grub. Is the bug influenced in any way by this choice? If it were a grub issue on fresh installs, i would expect it to pop up also on upgrades when the choice is made to reinstall grub. - all the bug reports mention windows XP as the other OS. Would it be useful to test this with Windows 2000 or 2003? What happens with dual-boot configurations with multiple Linux distributions, or with *BSD as the other OS? I'd be glad to add a spare disk to my test system and run a few of these scenarios (probably tomorrow once I have FC2, no use testing FC2T3 now I guess) but since full installs take quite some time, it might be useful to get some answers, eg if someone already encountered the bug with Win2000 there is no need for me to spend time on that test. David Jansen From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Mon May 17 16:41:16 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:41:16 +0200 Subject: openoffice crashes with x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1084805299.20765.4.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> References: <1084804288.20765.0.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> <1084805299.20765.4.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> Message-ID: <1084812076.5889.14.camel@littlePiet> > I found a bug which seems to indicate that installing OO on 64bit is a > waste of time... > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123168 > > Though this applies to RHEL3 it appears to me to probably be relvant for > Fedora too. I think, it is does not apply (any more). I'm running OO on my x86_64 without any problems (Shuttle XPC 85G4). So, I suggest you should check your installation and/or hardware. There must something wrong. Peter From marshall at novafoundry.com Mon May 17 16:44:14 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:44:14 -0400 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A8E00F.80009@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <40A8E00F.80009@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <1084812254.29444.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 11:53, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Law Horne wrote: > > >Ok I posted this A little while ago. But since everyone was still > >arguing about this issue no one seem to notice. So I do not know if it > >helps or not. SO I'M REPOSTING it. > > > > > > > thx , but I'm looking for ways to gather data to be used to find the > reasons of this problem so it can be added to the bug report and fixed... > Wouldn't determining if his suggested fix works be useful in determining the potential cause? Personally.. I don't have this problem, I have in fact the exact opposite problem. On my tablet, after installing fc2t3, it refuses to boot linux (boots windows just fine) when grub is installed on a partition instead of the mbr. Oh, and windows overwrites my mbr every time I log into it (or maybe it's when I log out of it, still trying to figure that out). So at this point I've resorted to having a dos partition that windows can boot, that overwrites my mbr with the one contains grub, reboot.. launch linux.. and then I'm good to go until I have to run windows again. I bring it up because to me, it sounds some what related to your issue. -- Marshall From marshall at novafoundry.com Mon May 17 16:47:36 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:47:36 -0400 Subject: openoffice crashes with x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1084805299.20765.4.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> References: <1084804288.20765.0.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> <1084805299.20765.4.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> Message-ID: <1084812456.29444.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:48, Chuck Mead wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:31, Chuck Mead wrote: > > It appears that openoffice is not usable with FC2T3 x86_64. It crashes > > everytime I try to run it (doesn't matter which app). > > I found a bug which seems to indicate that installing OO on 64bit is a > waste of time... > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123168 > > Though this applies to RHEL3 it appears to me to probably be relvant for > Fedora too. OO works for me on my opterons, I was experiencing random lockups when running i386 binaries until I upgraded my bios. I've only been running the new bios for 4 days now, but normally I'd experience at least one hard lock a day while running i386 software, and I had something that would cause a lock when running OO that no longer does. -- Marshall From alan at redhat.com Mon May 17 16:48:39 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:48:39 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040516170937.27590.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040515211354.40AF6739BF@hormel.redhat.com> <20040516170937.27590.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040517164839.GB15849@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 10:09:37AM -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/schedules/index.html, a new alpha > release is on May 18 for all those interested. this is exciting... the ability > to play new Real formats and to remove Real's software from my computer while > supporting open source: win, win, win situation. > Unless things have changed the real and other proprietary codecs are still non free and still attract fees in some cases From cra at WPI.EDU Mon May 17 16:52:43 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:52:43 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040517165243.GE25071@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:02:04PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > yes it is, and yes they do. get a grip. given the pitched battle between > microsoft and linux at the moment, how many potential converts (many of > whom will be running XP) do you think will be impressed with the attitude Making converts is not the goal of Fedora. From alan at redhat.com Mon May 17 16:55:57 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:55:57 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A7EB5F.40209@rogers.com> References: <1084745856.4157.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7EB5F.40209@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040517165557.GE15849@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 06:29:51PM -0400, Phil Savoie wrote: > ammunition to turn off Linux altogether. Absolutely and totally > unprofessional, in my opinion. I emphatically hope that the boxed > versions don't allow for this or there's going to be a huge outcry. There are no boxed versions. From thunderbirds at pandora.be Mon May 17 16:57:05 2004 From: thunderbirds at pandora.be (Gregory Petit) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:57:05 +0200 Subject: openoffice crashes with x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1084804288.20765.0.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> References: <1084804288.20765.0.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> Message-ID: <200405171857.12482.thunderbirds@pandora.be> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Op maandag 17 mei 2004 16:31, schreef Chuck Mead: > It appears that openoffice is not usable with FC2T3 x86_64. It crashes > everytime I try to run it (doesn't matter which app). Strange, on my system it runs fine. [greggy at homer greggy]$ locate libart_lgpl /usr/lib64/libart_lgpl_2.so.2.3.16 /usr/lib64/libart_lgpl_2.so.2 /usr/lib64/libart_lgpl.so.2.2.0 /usr/lib64/libart_lgpl.so.2 /usr/share/doc/libart_lgpl-2.3.16 /usr/share/doc/libart_lgpl-2.3.16/NEWS /usr/share/doc/libart_lgpl-2.3.16/README /usr/share/doc/libart_lgpl-2.3.16/AUTHORS /usr/share/doc/libart_lgpl-2.3.16/ChangeLog /usr/share/doc/libart_lgpl-2.3.16/COPYING /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2.3.16 /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2 [greggy at homer greggy]$ rpm -qf /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2.3.16 libart_lgpl-2.3.16-2.1 [greggy at homer greggy]$ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/libart_lgpl_2.so.2.3.16 libart_lgpl-2.3.16-2.1 [greggy at homer greggy]$ rpm -qa | grep libart_lgpl libart_lgpl-2.3.16-2.1 libart_lgpl-2.3.16-2.1 It seems that both i386 and x86-64 packages are installed. This is from a fresh install of FC2-t3. Kind regards, Gregory -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqO7lIXdlaijlOucRAqG8AJ9HuUfJfeIkU6kmLsvaHKkEwT706gCeJaah JlDRhoS96JPm+g4MI24/FW4= =PulG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gcarter at aesgi.com Mon May 17 16:59:36 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:59:36 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <40A8EF78.40109@aesgi.com> Linux is not ready for the poor souls who expect to throw a disk in and press the pretty setup button. It isn't, and it will not be for a couple of YEARS yet. I think your expectations are out of line, personally. Linux is not for the IT guy who basically presses buttons, and if it doesn't work you call Microsoft. (i.e. Microsoft Administrators) At the moment Linux is for the guy who can make the modifications to the Python scripts to properly implement a dual boot MBR with a little C code to scan the partition types and resize/reconfig them on the fly. Linux WILL eventually get that far, but not today, tomorrow next week next year. We are still in the process of evicting "bill and the gang" from the server rooms. Once wereach critical mass, very soon I suspect, we will start worrying about the desktop. Although we are not TOTALLY without compassion. :-) Try looking at the knoppix distro on CD if you absolutely want to just run Linux part of the time, without fiddling with your XP install. No fuss and no muss....knoppix is the way to go for the IT Drones and casual users who just want a peak at Linux or see if it supports your hardware. What is embarrassing to me, personally is that the US is over run with IT people who can't do jack if they cannot find the setup button. The entire US IT department landscape is built by people who really do not understand the technology they are using, and are simply drones that push pretty buttons. If it doesn't have a GUI on it, they label it as "unusable" not "mature". I would like to propose a different view...that the individuals who are making this determination are "unskilled" "overpaid" and should probably have their jobs "outsourced". Is it any wonder most of the primary technical contributions to Linux distros that address the "desktop issues" do not come from the US anyway. (GNOME, KDE...) I find that sickening, disgusting and well...EXACTLY why most US IT departments can't do jack except complain about the whole desktop distro THANG. All of the issues that Fedora has on the desktop will eventually be addressed so you IT "drones" can boot Linux into run level init 5 and blow 256MB of memory on a stupid GUI just to restart your DNS server instead of just typing ./named reload on the command line at init level 3 without a gui. If I was you I would go back to using Windows for awhile until we get there. But complaining about trivial things when we are in the process of "penguinizing" the server rooms of the world is not something you are going to get a whole lot of sympathy for. -gc Robert P. J. Day wrote: >On Mon, 17 May 2004, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > > > >>This hardly counts as a major flaw and IMHO Linux distros don't have to >>prove themselves to anyone anyway. >> >> > >yes it is, and yes they do. get a grip. given the pitched battle between >microsoft and linux at the moment, how many potential converts (many of >whom will be running XP) do you think will be impressed with the attitude >of, "hey, this is linux, we don't give a crap about your windows stuff." > >oh, yeah, that'll win piles of new friends. > >rday > > > > From alan at redhat.com Mon May 17 17:02:37 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:02:37 -0400 Subject: ide/scsi and cdrecord In-Reply-To: <40A87443.7000309@apec.fr> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDF90@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> <40A87443.7000309@apec.fr> Message-ID: <20040517170237.GF15849@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 10:13:55AM +0200, Francis SOUYRI wrote: > Hello Greg, > > You have a problem between the kernel "sg" driver and "cdrecord" (Cannot > open '/dev/sg*') Its a bug in the Fedora kernel, it isn't fixed in the FC2 final kernel but hopefully will get fixed in an errata. Having said that as you suggest with the link below the old /dev/sg method is not the best way to do this stuff in 2.6 > > Take a look at: > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg01136.html Alan From destefan at vaxcave.com Mon May 17 17:59:28 2004 From: destefan at vaxcave.com (Anthony DeStefano) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> Message-ID: <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> >> Has no one simply tried this? >> >> For Windows XP, boot from the install CD and enter the Recovery >> Console. >> Then issue the command: >> Code: >> bootcfg /rebuild >> >> >> This fixes the bootloader for windows xp. But I do not know if it will >> work in this situation. >> I cannot test this as I do not have this problem. >> >> >> Law > > Let me know if it works or not. I hope it helps. > This does not work. Something (fdisk or grub) is overwriting information that it shouldn't be. I've looked at it a bit and you can see it in the Partition Magic attachment in the bug report. What's happening is after these changes are made on the primary disk (hda), the BIOS is thinking that it should be using CHS mode instead of LBA. Things point more towards grub then fdisk; since in my experience it happens even when I don't repartition. Here's my system: Asus A7N8X Deluxe using onboard IDE controller 80GB WD drive (hda) 17GB Maxtor drive (hdc) Some people reported it only happens with large disks (> 120GB), but that's not the case here. That's as far as I've gotten. I do want to help all I can, but haven't had anytime to dig deep. --Anthony -- Anthony DeStefano destefan at vaxcave.com From williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co Mon May 17 17:11:23 2004 From: williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co (William Lovaton) Date: 17 May 2004 12:11:23 -0500 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards Message-ID: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi there, I'm going to use FC2 Final in my production server and I want to upgrade the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work well in FC2?? Thank you in advance, -William From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 17 17:12:38 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:12:38 -0400 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> Message-ID: <604aa791040517101235524ed0@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 13:59:28 -0400 (EDT), Anthony DeStefano > This does not work. Something (fdisk or grub) is overwriting information > that it shouldn't be. I've looked at it a bit and you can see it in the > Partition Magic attachment in the bug report. What's happening is after > these changes are made on the primary disk (hda), the BIOS is thinking > that it should be using CHS mode instead of LBA. Things point more > towards grub then fdisk; since in my experience it happens even when I > don't repartition. grub...or the kernel.... when you use grub to push to the mbr. Is grub figuring out the disk geometry on its on? Or is grub asking the running kernel about disk geometry? using the same version of grub, do you get the same problem using a 2.4.x kernel as you do with a 2.6.x kernel? -jef From mark at harddata.com Mon May 17 17:08:56 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:08:56 -0600 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405171108.56528.mark@harddata.com> On May 17, 2004 11:11 am, William Lovaton wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm going to use FC2 Final in my production server and I want to upgrade > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work > well in FC2?? > SysKonnect 9xxx, 3com 940, Broadcom, Intel -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From jsavoy at nc.rr.com Mon May 17 17:16:14 2004 From: jsavoy at nc.rr.com (Jeremy Savoy) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:16:14 -0400 Subject: Token Ring driver not compiled in FC2 Message-ID: <1084814174.17399.10.camel@jsavoy.raleigh.ibm.com> Looks like the IBM Token Ring drivers are not compiled in FC2. While I don't mind the exercise of compiling them and the kernel myself, it seems like this might be a defect since there are actually quite a few of us out here that still use TR, especially here inside of IBM. I would like to compile the drivers as modules and just use them with the current FC2 kernel - in the past I've always had symbol trouble trying to do this - anyone out there have any pointers? From whb at ceimaine.org Mon May 17 17:18:26 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:18:26 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A8EF78.40109@aesgi.com> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8EF78.40109@aesgi.com> Message-ID: <1084814306.2627.76.camel@d1ntpm41> Taking the bait... On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 12:59, Gregory G Carter wrote: > Linux is not ready for the poor souls who expect to throw a disk in and > press the pretty setup button. Windows has broad hardware support, and hardware vendors are happy to provide binary drivers. Linux is doing an increasingly better job of reverse engineering hardware. More hardware vendors are contributing as Linux becomes more popular. The trends are looking good, but there is much work to do. > > It isn't, and it will not be for a couple of YEARS yet. I think your > expectations are out of line, personally. We used to expect that people would check the hardware compatibility list first. Yes, it seems that every year the is an article stating that "Linux is finally ready for the desktop". Problem is, all kinds of new technology is coming out at ever increasing rates. > > Linux is not for the IT guy who basically presses buttons, and if it > doesn't work you call Microsoft. (i.e. Microsoft Administrators) For many tasks, there are some good and simple interfaces, even commercial ones, like Plesk. Many people can administer Linux machines through such interfaces very easily, as long as they stick to certain tasks. > > At the moment Linux is for the guy who can make the modifications to the > Python scripts to properly implement a dual boot MBR with a little C > code to scan the partition types and resize/reconfig them on the fly. For many scenarios, this is true, but for many people, this is not the case. Really, things are really good these days. I'd bet that 95% of the installs go very well. Problem is, as something becomes larger, that remaining 5% can get pretty large. That 5% needs to view themselves as willing contributors to an amazing process of software development. > > Linux WILL eventually get that far, but not today, tomorrow next week > next year. We are still in the process of evicting "bill and the gang" > from the server rooms. Once wereach critical mass, very soon I suspect, > we will start worrying about the desktop. I sure hope so. > > Although we are not TOTALLY without compassion. :-) Try looking at the > knoppix distro on CD if you absolutely want to just run Linux part of > the time, without fiddling with your XP install. No fuss and no > muss....knoppix is the way to go for the IT Drones and casual users who > just want a peak at Linux or see if it supports your hardware. And many other live CDs. Extra partitions are beyond most home users. Perhaps when Linux come pre-installed, these issues will go away. > > What is embarrassing to me, personally is that the US is over run with > IT people who can't do jack if they cannot find the setup button. Not just the US. Many of us move to other countries. :) > > The entire US IT department landscape is built by people who really do > not understand the technology they are using, and are simply drones that > push pretty buttons. If it doesn't have a GUI on it, they label it as > "unusable" not "mature". This was by design. Same with people who build cars. Not a terrible goal. > > I would like to propose a different view...that the individuals who are > making this determination are "unskilled" "overpaid" and should probably > have their jobs "outsourced". As with any industry. > > Is it any wonder most of the primary technical contributions to Linux > distros that address the "desktop issues" do not come from the US > anyway. (GNOME, KDE...) Not to mention the kernel starting outside the US. > > I find that sickening, disgusting and well...EXACTLY why most US IT > departments can't do jack except complain about the whole desktop distro > THANG. Must mean that the windows boxes are stable enough that most US IT people have time to complain. :) > > All of the issues that Fedora has on the desktop will eventually be > addressed so you IT "drones" can boot Linux into run level init 5 and > blow 256MB of memory on a stupid GUI just to restart your DNS server > instead of just typing ./named reload on the command line at init level > 3 without a gui. That 256MB of RAM costs less than the 4 MB that was used for the CLI 8 years ago. Still, I agree that a quick command line is a nice thing. At least with Linux/Unix, you still have a choice. > > If I was you I would go back to using Windows for awhile until we get > there. But complaining about trivial things when we are in the process > of "penguinizing" the server rooms of the world is not something you are > going to get a whole lot of sympathy for. > > -gc Maybe we need a fedora-sympathy list. ;) > > > > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > >On Mon, 17 May 2004, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > > > > > > > >>This hardly counts as a major flaw and IMHO Linux distros don't have to > >>prove themselves to anyone anyway. > >> > >> > > > >yes it is, and yes they do. get a grip. given the pitched battle between > >microsoft and linux at the moment, how many potential converts (many of > >whom will be running XP) do you think will be impressed with the attitude > >of, "hey, this is linux, we don't give a crap about your windows stuff." > > > >oh, yeah, that'll win piles of new friends. > > > >rday > > > > > > > > > From nkadel at merl.com Mon May 17 17:20:20 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:20:20 -0400 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405171108.56528.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: <018c01c43c33$3b3c4220$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Lane" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards > On May 17, 2004 11:11 am, William Lovaton > wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I'm going to use FC2 Final in my production server and I want to upgrade > > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work > > well in FC2?? > > > SysKonnect 9xxx, 3com 940, Broadcom, Intel "Broadcom" and "Intel" are not models, they are company names. Be specific, please. From mark at harddata.com Mon May 17 17:18:12 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:18:12 -0600 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <018c01c43c33$3b3c4220$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405171108.56528.mark@harddata.com> <018c01c43c33$3b3c4220$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <200405171118.12541.mark@harddata.com> On May 17, 2004 11:20 am, "Nico Kadel-Garcia" wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Lane" > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards > > > On May 17, 2004 11:11 am, William Lovaton > > > > > wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I'm going to use FC2 Final in my production server and I want to > > > upgrade the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to > > > work well in FC2?? > > > > SysKonnect 9xxx, 3com 940, Broadcom, Intel > > "Broadcom" and "Intel" are not models, they are company names. Be specific, > please. Pretty much any Broadcom or Intel GigE Nic. You can research the model numbers yourself. I don't have the time. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From alan at redhat.com Mon May 17 17:38:23 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:38:23 -0400 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040517173823.GM15849@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:11:23PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work > well in FC2?? Im using realtek 8169 - not the flashiest or fastest but works rather nicely and is incredibly cheap From jboyens at fooninja.org Mon May 17 17:46:05 2004 From: jboyens at fooninja.org (JR Boyens) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:46:05 -0500 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> Message-ID: <1084815964.15870.1.camel@surly.fooninja.org> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 13:59 -0400, Anthony DeStefano wrote: > >> Has no one simply tried this? > >> > >> For Windows XP, boot from the install CD and enter the Recovery > >> Console. > >> Then issue the command: > >> Code: > >> bootcfg /rebuild > >> > >> > >> This fixes the bootloader for windows xp. But I do not know if it will > >> work in this situation. > >> I cannot test this as I do not have this problem. > >> > >> > >> Law > > > > Let me know if it works or not. I hope it helps. > > > > This does not work. Something (fdisk or grub) is overwriting information > that it shouldn't be. I've looked at it a bit and you can see it in the > Partition Magic attachment in the bug report. What's happening is after > these changes are made on the primary disk (hda), the BIOS is thinking > that it should be using CHS mode instead of LBA. Things point more > towards grub then fdisk; since in my experience it happens even when I > don't repartition. > > Here's my system: > > Asus A7N8X Deluxe using onboard IDE controller > 80GB WD drive (hda) > 17GB Maxtor drive (hdc) > > Some people reported it only happens with large disks (> 120GB), but > that's not the case here. > > That's as far as I've gotten. I do want to help all I can, but haven't > had anytime to dig deep. I could swear that the cause of this problem was the use of parted in the install partitioning process... Has this been since declared wrong? -- JR Boyens jboyens at fooninja.org From alan at redhat.com Mon May 17 17:47:05 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:47:05 -0400 Subject: Token Ring driver not compiled in FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084814174.17399.10.camel@jsavoy.raleigh.ibm.com> References: <1084814174.17399.10.camel@jsavoy.raleigh.ibm.com> Message-ID: <20040517174705.GB22919@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 01:16:14PM -0400, Jeremy Savoy wrote: > I would like to compile the drivers as modules and just use them with > the current FC2 kernel - in the past I've always had symbol trouble > trying to do this - anyone out there have any pointers? If token ring is disabled entirely then you will inevitably get different symbols so may need to roll a new kernel anyway. Knowing if token ring builds and works on FC2 would be useful for errata stuff. Right now it seems the only large token ring network on the planet (and the one that breaks stuff reliabily and rapidly) belongs to a large blue company. Alan From alan at redhat.com Mon May 17 17:54:14 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:54:14 -0400 Subject: interpret this BIOS In-Reply-To: <200405151751.i4FHpGsW018183@orion.dwf.com> References: <200405151751.i4FHpGsW018183@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <20040517175414.GB1667@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 11:51:16AM -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > BIOS-provided physical RAM map: > BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009e800 (usable) Most of 640K RAM > BIOS-e820: 000000000009e800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) A bit reserved (EBDA) > BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) ROMs > BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000002fffc000 (usable) Lots of memory > BIOS-e820: 000000002fffc000 - 000000002ffff000 (ACPI data) > BIOS-e820: 000000002ffff000 - 0000000030000000 (ACPI NVS) Two chunks used by ACPI > BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) Ending a 4Gb From mark at harddata.com Mon May 17 17:48:46 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:48:46 -0600 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <20040517173823.GM15849@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040517173823.GM15849@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405171148.46688.mark@harddata.com> On May 17, 2004 11:38 am, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:11:23PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work > > well in FC2?? > > Im using realtek 8169 - not the flashiest or fastest but works rather > nicely and is incredibly cheap Alan, it must like you. I have an onboard 8169 that worked fine when it worked. The device would disappear on every other boot. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From stevef at netvantix.com Mon May 17 18:19:29 2004 From: stevef at netvantix.com (Steve Fink) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:19:29 -0600 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> Message-ID: I'm sorry if this has been covered before but I haven't been following any of the threads discussing this problem with XP. Could someone with this problem try these steps to fix the issue? --------------------------------------------- Preparation: Please get the following items before beginning: 1. Fedora Core 2 boot disk - if you don't know how to make one refer to Appendix A 2. MS Boot disk including fdisk - if you don't know how to make one refer to Appendix B 3. Knoppix CD - If you don't have one get one at http://www.knoppix.org 4. Bucket load of patience - If you don't have one get one. Execution: 1. Boot into Fedora and verify your /boot/grub/menu.lst exists and should look like this: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,2) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda5 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=1 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) root (hd0,2) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb selinux=0 quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img title WinXP rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1 ***NOTE*** This menu.lst assumes that XP is on the 1st partition and Fedora /boot is on the second. 2. Reboot using MS Boot disk 3. Run fdisk /mbr - This will restore the MS bootloader to the Master Boot Record 4. Reboot into XP and make sure it works 5. Reboot using the Knoppix CD 6. Open a shell 7. su 8. root at knoppix:/# grub Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. GNU GRUB version 0.94 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename. ] grub> Now run these three commands: grub> root (hd0,0) grub> setup (hd0) grub> quit 9. Reboot, and you will be greeted by the GRUB command shell. Note that the root value is variable, depending on where GRUB is installed on your system. setup (hd0) installs GRUB to the MBR (master boot record), and quit exits GRUB If your /boot/grub/menu.lst is setup properly this should give you a working GRUB configuration. --------------- Best of Luck, Steve --------------- Appendix A: Making a Linux boot disk Most folks ignore that operating system installation procedure where it is asked if a boot disk (emergency disk) should be made. While this boot disk is important in Windows operating systems, it is even more important in Linux, especially in a dual-boot system, where Windows and Linux exist together. Even if you boot using a bootloader existing on a system hard-drive, you should keep an up to date boot disk handy. If the standard boot process goes awry, toss the boot disk in, reboot, and then you can get in to repair the problem. So during an installation/upgrade of an OS, when asked to make a boot disk....Definitely do so! But, what happens if you didn't make a boot disk during the Linux install? Don't fear, mkbootdisk is there for you... Typical command line.... /sbin/mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 2.6.5-1.327 This command instructs the mkbootdisk executable to use the floppy disk drive (/dev/fd0) to write the boot disk info to, and to send it all the appropriate information to load the kernel numbered 2.6.5-1.327 A man page of mkbootdisk provides more on the command, but here are a few quickies: -mkbootdisk might reside in different places on different distros -if --device is not specified, it will by default use /dev/fd0....so you can shorten the length of the command line entry by not using it if your floppy exists at that default location. -remember that if you have multiple kernels installed, one boot disk may not properly boot the other kernels, so you would be best off making one for each kernel. Appendix B: Making a MS boot disk Double Click on My Computer Insert Floppy diskette into Floppy Drive Right Click on Floppy Drive choose Format Click on Checkbox next to Add System Files Allow disk to format and copy system files Search for fdisk and copy it to the floppy From reg at dwf.com Mon May 17 18:22:01 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:22:01 -0600 Subject: interpret this BIOS In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 May 2004 13:54:14 EDT." <20040517175414.GB1667@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405171822.i4HIM1PW016865@orion.dwf.com> > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 11:51:16AM -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > > BIOS-provided physical RAM map: > > BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009e800 (usable) > > Most of 640K RAM > > BIOS-e820: 000000000009e800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) > > A bit reserved (EBDA) > > > BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) > > ROMs > > > BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000002fffc000 (usable) > Lots of memory > > > BIOS-e820: 000000002fffc000 - 000000002ffff000 (ACPI data) > > BIOS-e820: 000000002ffff000 - 0000000030000000 (ACPI NVS) > > Two chunks used by ACPI > > > BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) > > Ending a 4Gb > > > -- Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. The system in fact has a 512MB chip and a 256MB chip for a total of 768/775Mb You seem to show that this is shown in BIOS as a single entry, rather than an entry for each stick, is that true? And of course, I dont understand how to interpret the numbers that I see. My first guess would be that they are starting point, size (is there any documentation?,- I didnt find it) But if I believe that, then 0x2fffc000 = 805289984 which is wrong for the size. So, back to my initial question: How do I interpret this stuff? -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From hogsett at csl.sri.com Mon May 17 18:34:34 2004 From: hogsett at csl.sri.com (Mike Hogsett) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:34:34 -0700 Subject: interpret this BIOS In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 May 2004 12:22:01 MDT." <200405171822.i4HIM1PW016865@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <200405171834.i4HIYY9A004063@beast.csl.sri.com> > Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. > The system in fact has a 512MB chip and a 256MB chip for a total of 768/775Mb > ... > But if I believe that, then 0x2fffc000 = 805289984 which is wrong for the siz > e. 805,289,984 is 16Kbytes less than 768Mbytes. - Mike From alan at redhat.com Mon May 17 18:38:29 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:29 -0400 Subject: interpret this BIOS In-Reply-To: <200405171822.i4HIM1PW016865@orion.dwf.com> References: <20040517175414.GB1667@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200405171822.i4HIM1PW016865@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <20040517183829.GA17773@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:22:01PM -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. > The system in fact has a 512MB chip and a 256MB chip for a total of 768/775Mb > You seem to show that this is shown in BIOS as a single entry, rather > than an entry for each stick, is that true? Yes. The memory is described in terms of start/end address of each block not of each chip > But if I believe that, then 0x2fffc000 = 805289984 which is wrong for the size. That looks about right. Remember its in 1024's and that comes out at just under 768Mb. A small amount has ben borrowed by the bios > So, back to my initial question: How do I interpret this stuff? [Start] [End] [Usage] From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Mon May 17 19:41:19 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:41:19 -0700 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040516222500.257fce2e.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A817BD.3070208@vaxcave.com> <20040516222500.257fce2e.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040517194118.GH15541@ece.arizona.edu> On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 10:25:00PM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > Nobody seems to think it makes Windows XP look bad. I'm sure they'll > be just as understanding about FC2. Funny how people expect more > from something they don't pay a dime for. Anyway, i'm sure it will all > work soon enough. A number of people have made comments to this effect, and that the windows install will hose your linux partition, too. There is an important difference: The windows installer offers to hose your linux partition and then does so when you click OK. It sounds like the current FC2 installer offers to set things up so they both work, and then proceeds to hose your windows partition. That's not cool at all. Properly informing the user about what's going to happen makes a big difference. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Mon May 17 19:44:18 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:44:18 -0700 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040517194417.GI15541@ece.arizona.edu> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:10:19AM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > Go complain to Microsoft who charged you money for the privilege of > not supporting dual boot with Linux. But they do not CLAIM to support it. This would be a different issue if FC2 clearly said that your windows partition would be un-bootable. Instead, it offers to set it up for you. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From silverhead at comcast.net Mon May 17 19:11:29 2004 From: silverhead at comcast.net (James W. Bennett) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:11:29 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <604aa79104051708203b6ff541@mail.gmail.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A889E8.3040209@rogers.com> <604aa79104051708203b6ff541@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1084821089.1976.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:20, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2004 05:46:16 -0400, Phil Savoie wrote: > > Sure Sean. This is a product. This is no different than a car company > > promoting a new state of the art car. Everything works except they > > don't tell you that the brakes that used to work in reverse last year > > don't this year. But according to you, if you need to back up, you are > > a loser. > > You need to be very careful about analogies to cars. Fedora is not a > product, its important to be clear about that, its a project. > > And lets also be clear about this issue and issue like it in general. > A lot of bugs are difficult for developers to reproduce locally on > their hardware. A lot of bugs can arise because of complicated > interactions between hardware and software. Whatever is happening with > fedora in this case might be a kernel 2.6 issue, it might be a > partitioning tool issue, it might be a grub issue, it might be a bios > issue, it might be a combination of all those or none. Whatever it > is, I'm very much NOT convinced this is as wide spread as people would > believe. I have heard fc2t3 install dual boot scenarios that have > worked without a hitch. Hell even one bug reporter in the comments > tried to reproduce the problem after a bios upgrade and could > not...that suggests something. > > > -jef -- I for one have had FC2T3 installed on my main machine since it came out and I can't believe how solid it is. I have no problems with dual boot. I dual boot windows 2000 and have hadn't a single problem even though I seldom ever use windows. The Fedora software developers have done a magnificent job. James W. Bennett From qralston+ml.redhat-fedora-test at andrew.cmu.edu Mon May 17 19:10:50 2004 From: qralston+ml.redhat-fedora-test at andrew.cmu.edu (James Ralston) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:10:50 -0400 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6D509C847DFA9481230EBE99@shieldbreaker.l33tskillz.org> On 2004-05-17 at 12:11:23-05 William Lovaton wrote: > I'm going to use FC2 Final in my production server and I want to > upgrade the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known > to work well in FC2?? We've had good success with Intel cards. If your server is PCI only (not PCI-X), try: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=33-106-112&depa=0 If you want PCI-X, try: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=33-106-117&depa=0 If you need PCI-X and two interfaces, try: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=33-106-202&depa=0 All of these cards use Intel's open-source "e1000" driver. (I believe that Intel is still maintaining it, and that the kernel developers go re-sync against Intel's latest version occasionally.) -- James Ralston, Information Technology Software Engineering Institute Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA From williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co Mon May 17 19:19:41 2004 From: williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co (William Lovaton) Date: 17 May 2004 14:19:41 -0500 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thank you guys for all the answers, fedora is really nice. I have a haevy enterprise web application (Apache/PHP) running with 600 users (active sessions) on a 4x SMP Pentium III 550MHz each (RH9 - 2.4.20smp). Right now the poor server is very stressed and I have detected bottlenecks in the network (100Mbps) due to the high traffic between the web server and the database. So, I am planning to make the leap from 100 to 1GB network. Is there any advice from all of you regarding this? I have a good experience with linux but this is the first time I am going to work in the gigabit arena. I am afraid that it is a bad assumption to think that 1Gb will improve transfer speeds just like that. Maybe there is some deeper configuration / tuning left to be done after installing the new card. Thanks, -William From info at thorko.de Mon May 17 19:29:09 2004 From: info at thorko.de (Thorsten) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:29:09 -0700 Subject: VMware and Fedora Core 2 Message-ID: <1084822101.2061.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello guys do anyone know how you can running the vmware 4.0.5 under fedora core 2? I have installed the vmware 4.0.5 under fedora core 2 and the installation worked without any problems. But if I start the vmware-config.pl script it can't find the kernel sources. I have installed the kernel sources which match with my running kernel. If I start the vmware-config.pl script again it told me that the kernel c-header files didn't matched with my running kernel. After that I copied the version.h from /lib/modules/.... to my /usr/src/.... I started the vmware-scripts again and it tolds me that the kernel address space size from my kernel sources didn't match with my running kernel. And so here we are. I have no clue what I can do know. Have some of you a solution or did some of you tried this to install the vmware under fedora core 2? Thanks for helping Ciao Thorsten From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon May 17 19:32:44 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:32:44 -0400 Subject: vmware 4.51, FC2T3 [x86_64] - had had anyone success? In-Reply-To: <1084811614.5889.10.camel@littlePiet> References: <1084811614.5889.10.camel@littlePiet> Message-ID: <1084822364.1881.570.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 12:33, Peter Boy wrote: > I'm running FC2T3 (kernel 358) and tried to install vmware 4.51 > workstation. Did anyone succeed running this combination? Not I, but... http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers&query=vmware+x86_64 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/9634/match=+vmware+x86 > > While trying to compile the kernel modules some error messages came up > here: > vmware...../driver.c (131): Warning: > Initialising incompatible type of pointer > vmware...../driver.c (135): Warning: > Initialising incompatible type of pointer > > and some others, resulting in an unknown symbol and compilation aborted. > > On google I found vmware-any-any-update67, but no hint how to install > it. And it seems to be for the i386 arch. Unpack the archive and run runme.pl. I'd do something like: # tar zxvf vmware-any-any-update67.tar.gz -C /usr/local/src # cd /usr/local/src/vmware-any-any-update67 # ./runme.pl > > > Any help appreciated. OK, Phil From russell at coker.com.au Mon May 17 19:34:16 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 05:34:16 +1000 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405180534.16924.russell@coker.com.au> On Tue, 18 May 2004 05:19, William Lovaton wrote: > I have a haevy enterprise web application (Apache/PHP) running with 600 > users (active sessions) on a 4x SMP Pentium III 550MHz each (RH9 - > 2.4.20smp). Right now the poor server is very stressed and I have > detected bottlenecks in the network (100Mbps) due to the high traffic > between the web server and the database. So, I am planning to make the > leap from 100 to 1GB network. Gigabit networking can take quite a lot of CPU power. PHP applications are often CPU hungry and if you are doing enough to fill a 100baseT network then it's quite likely that you are already running low on CPU power. If you get a new 2x SMP system (which will have more than twice the CPU power of your existing system) you will probably have 2x Gigabit Ethernet ports on the motherboard. The Broadcom chipsets which seem common for such motherboards have worked well for me in the past. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From dbretton at hotmail.com Mon May 17 19:35:11 2004 From: dbretton at hotmail.com (Dg B) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:35:11 -0400 Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 121 Message-ID: >>Here are some new torrent files. >> >>from kuix.de : >> >>http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-isos.torrent >>http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-DVD.torrent >> >>LEASE BE A NICE PERSON and do not quit your downloader after you have >>finished downloading, at least for a while. >Actually for best use of torrent join an existing one rather than setting >up your own. Big torrents surely work much better than several little >ones. >Michael Young I'm not setting up my own. BitTorrents were released on slashdot.org yesterday, and the tracker blew up sometime around 20:00 EST. These are replacements for those BitTorrents. "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." - Marx, Groucho >From: fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com >Reply-To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Subject: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 121 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:29:30 -0400 (EDT) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from hormel.redhat.com ([209.132.177.30]) by mc6-f40.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 17 May 2004 12:29:42 -0700 >Received: from listman.util.phx.redhat.com (listman.util.phx.redhat.com >[10.8.4.110])by hormel.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPid D9ACE737FD; Mon, >17 May 2004 15:29:30 -0400 (EDT) >X-Message-Info: QIy1oIULmHeZ0Z8YVLJR2qGyAfVDCUeR >X-BeenThere: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: junk >List-Id: For testers of Fedora Core development >releases >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com >Message-Id: <20040517192930.D9ACE737FD at hormel.redhat.com> >Return-Path: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2004 19:29:43.0897 (UTC) >FILETIME=[4E668C90:01C43C45] > >Send fedora-test-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-test-list-owner at redhat.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of fedora-test-list digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Gigabit ethernet cards (Nico Kadel-Garcia) > 2. Re: Gigabit ethernet cards (Mark Lane) > 3. Re: Gigabit ethernet cards (Alan Cox) > 4. Re: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 > release on 5/18 (JR Boyens) > 5. Re: Token Ring driver not compiled in FC2 (Alan Cox) > 6. Re: interpret this BIOS (Alan Cox) > 7. Re: Gigabit ethernet cards (Mark Lane) > 8. Re: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 > release on 5/18 (Steve Fink) > 9. Re: interpret this BIOS (reg at dwf.com) > 10. Re: interpret this BIOS (Mike Hogsett) > 11. Re: interpret this BIOS (Alan Cox) > 12. Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 > (Michael Stenner) > 13. Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 > (Michael Stenner) > 14. Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 > (James W. Bennett) > 15. Re: Gigabit ethernet cards (James Ralston) > 16. Re: Gigabit ethernet cards (William Lovaton) > 17. VMware and Fedora Core 2 (Thorsten) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:20:20 -0400 >From: "Nico Kadel-Garcia" >Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards >To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > >Message-ID: <018c01c43c33$3b3c4220$b28ccb89 at zeppo> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Lane" >To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > >Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:08 PM >Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards > > > > On May 17, 2004 11:11 am, William Lovaton > > > wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I'm going to use FC2 Final in my production server and I want to >upgrade > > > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work > > > well in FC2?? > > > > > SysKonnect 9xxx, 3com 940, Broadcom, Intel > >"Broadcom" and "Intel" are not models, they are company names. Be specific, >please. > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:18:12 -0600 >From: Mark Lane >Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <200405171118.12541.mark at harddata.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >On May 17, 2004 11:20 am, "Nico Kadel-Garcia" wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Lane" > > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > > > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:08 PM > > Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards > > > > > On May 17, 2004 11:11 am, William Lovaton > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > I'm going to use FC2 Final in my production server and I want to > > > > upgrade the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known >to > > > > work well in FC2?? > > > > > > SysKonnect 9xxx, 3com 940, Broadcom, Intel > > > > "Broadcom" and "Intel" are not models, they are company names. Be >specific, > > please. > >Pretty much any Broadcom or Intel GigE Nic. You can research the model >numbers >yourself. I don't have the time. >-- >Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com >Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com >T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 >11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 >--> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:38:23 -0400 >From: Alan Cox >Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <20040517173823.GM15849 at devserv.devel.redhat.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:11:23PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work > > well in FC2?? > >Im using realtek 8169 - not the flashiest or fastest but works rather >nicely and is incredibly cheap > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:46:05 -0500 >From: JR Boyens >Subject: Re: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 > release on 5/18 >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <1084815964.15870.1.camel at surly.fooninja.org> >Content-Type: text/plain > >On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 13:59 -0400, Anthony DeStefano wrote: > > >> Has no one simply tried this? > > >> > > >> For Windows XP, boot from the install CD and enter the Recovery > > >> Console. > > >> Then issue the command: > > >> Code: > > >> bootcfg /rebuild > > >> > > >> > > >> This fixes the bootloader for windows xp. But I do not know if it >will > > >> work in this situation. > > >> I cannot test this as I do not have this problem. > > >> > > >> > > >> Law > > > > > > Let me know if it works or not. I hope it helps. > > > > > > > This does not work. Something (fdisk or grub) is overwriting >information > > that it shouldn't be. I've looked at it a bit and you can see it in the > > Partition Magic attachment in the bug report. What's happening is after > > these changes are made on the primary disk (hda), the BIOS is thinking > > that it should be using CHS mode instead of LBA. Things point more > > towards grub then fdisk; since in my experience it happens even when I > > don't repartition. > > > > Here's my system: > > > > Asus A7N8X Deluxe using onboard IDE controller > > 80GB WD drive (hda) > > 17GB Maxtor drive (hdc) > > > > Some people reported it only happens with large disks (> 120GB), but > > that's not the case here. > > > > That's as far as I've gotten. I do want to help all I can, but haven't > > had anytime to dig deep. > >I could swear that the cause of this problem was the use of parted in >the install partitioning process... Has this been since declared wrong? > >-- >JR Boyens >jboyens at fooninja.org > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:47:05 -0400 >From: Alan Cox >Subject: Re: Token Ring driver not compiled in FC2 >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <20040517174705.GB22919 at devserv.devel.redhat.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 01:16:14PM -0400, Jeremy Savoy wrote: > > I would like to compile the drivers as modules and just use them with > > the current FC2 kernel - in the past I've always had symbol trouble > > trying to do this - anyone out there have any pointers? > >If token ring is disabled entirely then you will inevitably get different >symbols so may need to roll a new kernel anyway. Knowing if token ring >builds and works on FC2 would be useful for errata stuff. Right now it >seems >the only large token ring network on the planet (and the one that breaks >stuff reliabily and rapidly) belongs to a large blue company. > >Alan > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:54:14 -0400 >From: Alan Cox >Subject: Re: interpret this BIOS >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <20040517175414.GB1667 at devserv.devel.redhat.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 11:51:16AM -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > > BIOS-provided physical RAM map: > > BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009e800 (usable) > >Most of 640K RAM > > BIOS-e820: 000000000009e800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) > >A bit reserved (EBDA) > > > BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) > >ROMs > > > BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000002fffc000 (usable) >Lots of memory > > > BIOS-e820: 000000002fffc000 - 000000002ffff000 (ACPI data) > > BIOS-e820: 000000002ffff000 - 0000000030000000 (ACPI NVS) > >Two chunks used by ACPI > > > BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) > >Ending a 4Gb > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:48:46 -0600 >From: Mark Lane >Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <200405171148.46688.mark at harddata.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >On May 17, 2004 11:38 am, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:11:23PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > > > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work > > > well in FC2?? > > > > Im using realtek 8169 - not the flashiest or fastest but works rather > > nicely and is incredibly cheap > >Alan, it must like you. I have an onboard 8169 that worked fine when it >worked. The device would disappear on every other boot. > >-- >Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com >Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com >T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 >11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 >--> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:19:29 -0600 >From: "Steve Fink" >Subject: Re: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 > release on 5/18 >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: > >I'm sorry if this has been covered before but I haven't been following any >of the threads discussing this problem with XP. > >Could someone with this problem try these steps to fix the issue? > >--------------------------------------------- > >Preparation: > >Please get the following items before beginning: > >1. Fedora Core 2 boot disk - if you don't know how to make one refer to >Appendix A >2. MS Boot disk including fdisk - if you don't know how to make one refer >to Appendix B >3. Knoppix CD - If you don't have one get one at http://www.knoppix.org >4. Bucket load of patience - If you don't have one get one. > > >Execution: > >1. Boot into Fedora and verify your /boot/grub/menu.lst exists and should >look like this: > ># grub.conf generated by anaconda ># ># Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file ># NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that ># all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. ># root (hd0,2) ># kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda5 ># initrd /initrd-version.img >#boot=/dev/hda >default=1 >timeout=10 >splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz >title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.327) > root (hd0,2) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.327 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb selinux=0 quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.327.img >title WinXP > rootnoverify (hd0,1) > chainloader +1 > >***NOTE*** >This menu.lst assumes that XP is on the 1st partition and Fedora /boot is >on the second. > >2. Reboot using MS Boot disk >3. Run fdisk /mbr - This will restore the MS bootloader to the Master Boot >Record >4. Reboot into XP and make sure it works >5. Reboot using the Knoppix CD >6. Open a shell >7. su >8. root at knoppix:/# grub >Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. > >GNU GRUB version 0.94 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) >[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB >lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible >completions of a device/filename. ] > >grub> > >Now run these three commands: > >grub> root (hd0,0) >grub> setup (hd0) >grub> quit > >9. Reboot, and you will be greeted by the GRUB command shell. Note that >the root value is variable, depending on where GRUB is installed on your >system. setup (hd0) installs GRUB to the MBR (master boot record), and >quit exits GRUB > >If your /boot/grub/menu.lst is setup properly this should give you a >working GRUB configuration. > >--------------- > >Best of Luck, > >Steve > > >--------------- > > > > >Appendix A: > >Making a Linux boot disk > >Most folks ignore that operating system installation procedure where it is >asked if a boot disk (emergency disk) should be made. > >While this boot disk is important in Windows operating systems, it is even >more important in Linux, especially in a dual-boot system, where Windows >and Linux exist together. Even if you boot using a bootloader existing on >a system hard-drive, you should keep an up to date boot disk handy. If the >standard boot process goes awry, toss the boot disk in, reboot, and then >you can get in to repair the problem. > >So during an installation/upgrade of an OS, when asked to make a boot >disk....Definitely do so! > >But, what happens if you didn't make a boot disk during the Linux install? >Don't fear, mkbootdisk is there for you... > >Typical command line.... > >/sbin/mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 2.6.5-1.327 > >This command instructs the mkbootdisk executable to use the floppy disk >drive (/dev/fd0) to write the boot disk info to, and to send it all the >appropriate information to load the kernel numbered 2.6.5-1.327 > >A man page of mkbootdisk provides more on the command, but here are a few >quickies: > >-mkbootdisk might reside in different places on different distros >-if --device is not specified, it will by default use /dev/fd0....so you >can shorten the length of the command line entry by not using it if your >floppy exists at that default location. >-remember that if you have multiple kernels installed, one boot disk may >not properly boot the other kernels, so you would be best off making one >for each kernel. > > > >Appendix B: > >Making a MS boot disk > > >Double Click on My Computer >Insert Floppy diskette into Floppy Drive >Right Click on Floppy Drive choose Format >Click on Checkbox next to Add System Files >Allow disk to format and copy system files >Search for fdisk and copy it to the floppy > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 9 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:22:01 -0600 >From: reg at dwf.com >Subject: Re: interpret this BIOS >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > , alan at redhat.com >Message-ID: <200405171822.i4HIM1PW016865 at orion.dwf.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 11:51:16AM -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > > > > BIOS-provided physical RAM map: > > > BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009e800 (usable) > > > > Most of 640K RAM > > > BIOS-e820: 000000000009e800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) > > > > A bit reserved (EBDA) > > > > > BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) > > > > ROMs > > > > > BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000002fffc000 (usable) > > Lots of memory > > > > > BIOS-e820: 000000002fffc000 - 000000002ffff000 (ACPI data) > > > BIOS-e820: 000000002ffff000 - 0000000030000000 (ACPI NVS) > > > > Two chunks used by ACPI > > > > > BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) > > > > Ending a 4Gb > > > > > > -- > >Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. >The system in fact has a 512MB chip and a 256MB chip for a total of >768/775Mb > >You seem to show that this is shown in BIOS as a single entry, rather >than an entry for each stick, is that true? > >And of course, I dont understand how to interpret the numbers that I see. >My first guess would be that they are starting point, size (is there any >documentation?,- I didnt find it) > >But if I believe that, then 0x2fffc000 = 805289984 which is wrong for the >size. > >So, back to my initial question: How do I interpret this stuff? > >-- > Reg.Clemens > reg at dwf.com > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 10 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:34:34 -0700 >From: Mike Hogsett >Subject: Re: interpret this BIOS >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <200405171834.i4HIYY9A004063 at beast.csl.sri.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > > Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. > > The system in fact has a 512MB chip and a 256MB chip for a total of >768/775Mb > > > ... > > > But if I believe that, then 0x2fffc000 = 805289984 which is wrong for >the siz > > e. > >805,289,984 is 16Kbytes less than 768Mbytes. > > - Mike > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 11 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:29 -0400 >From: Alan Cox >Subject: Re: interpret this BIOS >To: reg at dwf.com >Cc: alan at redhat.com, For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <20040517183829.GA17773 at devserv.devel.redhat.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:22:01PM -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > > Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. > > The system in fact has a 512MB chip and a 256MB chip for a total of >768/775Mb > > You seem to show that this is shown in BIOS as a single entry, rather > > than an entry for each stick, is that true? > >Yes. The memory is described in terms of start/end address of each block >not of each chip > > > But if I believe that, then 0x2fffc000 = 805289984 which is wrong for >the size. > >That looks about right. Remember its in 1024's and that comes out at >just under 768Mb. A small amount has ben borrowed by the bios > > > So, back to my initial question: How do I interpret this stuff? > >[Start] [End] [Usage] > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 12 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:41:19 -0700 >From: Michael Stenner >Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <20040517194118.GH15541 at ece.arizona.edu> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 10:25:00PM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > > Nobody seems to think it makes Windows XP look bad. I'm sure they'll > > be just as understanding about FC2. Funny how people expect more > > from something they don't pay a dime for. Anyway, i'm sure it will all > > work soon enough. > >A number of people have made comments to this effect, and that the >windows install will hose your linux partition, too. There is an >important difference: > > The windows installer offers to hose your linux partition and then > does so when you click OK. It sounds like the current FC2 installer > offers to set things up so they both work, and then proceeds to hose > your windows partition. That's not cool at all. > >Properly informing the user about what's going to happen makes a big >difference. > > -Michael >-- > Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu > ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 > 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:44:18 -0700 >From: Michael Stenner >Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <20040517194417.GI15541 at ece.arizona.edu> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:10:19AM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > > Go complain to Microsoft who charged you money for the privilege of > > not supporting dual boot with Linux. > >But they do not CLAIM to support it. This would be a different issue >if FC2 clearly said that your windows partition would be un-bootable. >Instead, it offers to set it up for you. > > -Michael >-- > Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu > ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 > 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 14 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:11:29 -0500 >From: "James W. Bennett" >Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <1084821089.1976.8.camel at localhost.localdomain> >Content-Type: text/plain > >On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 10:20, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Mon, 17 May 2004 05:46:16 -0400, Phil Savoie >wrote: > > > Sure Sean. This is a product. This is no different than a car >company > > > promoting a new state of the art car. Everything works except they > > > don't tell you that the brakes that used to work in reverse last year > > > don't this year. But according to you, if you need to back up, you >are > > > a loser. > > > > You need to be very careful about analogies to cars. Fedora is not a > > product, its important to be clear about that, its a project. > > > > And lets also be clear about this issue and issue like it in general. > > A lot of bugs are difficult for developers to reproduce locally on > > their hardware. A lot of bugs can arise because of complicated > > interactions between hardware and software. Whatever is happening with > > fedora in this case might be a kernel 2.6 issue, it might be a > > partitioning tool issue, it might be a grub issue, it might be a bios > > issue, it might be a combination of all those or none. Whatever it > > is, I'm very much NOT convinced this is as wide spread as people would > > believe. I have heard fc2t3 install dual boot scenarios that have > > worked without a hitch. Hell even one bug reporter in the comments > > tried to reproduce the problem after a bios upgrade and could > > not...that suggests something. > > > > > > -jef >-- > > > >I for one have had FC2T3 installed on my main machine since it came out >and I can't believe how solid it is. I have no problems with dual boot. >I dual boot windows 2000 and have hadn't a single problem even though I >seldom ever use windows. The Fedora software developers have done a >magnificent job. > >James W. Bennett > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 15 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:10:50 -0400 >From: James Ralston >Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <6D509C847DFA9481230EBE99 at shieldbreaker.l33tskillz.org> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On 2004-05-17 at 12:11:23-05 William Lovaton > wrote: > > I'm going to use FC2 Final in my production server and I want to > > upgrade the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known > > to work well in FC2?? > >We've had good success with Intel cards. > >If your server is PCI only (not PCI-X), try: > > >http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=33-106-112&depa=0 > >If you want PCI-X, try: > > >http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=33-106-117&depa=0 > >If you need PCI-X and two interfaces, try: > > >http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=33-106-202&depa=0 > >All of these cards use Intel's open-source "e1000" driver. (I believe >that Intel is still maintaining it, and that the kernel developers go >re-sync against Intel's latest version occasionally.) > >-- >James Ralston, Information Technology >Software Engineering Institute >Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 16 >Date: 17 May 2004 14:19:41 -0500 >From: William Lovaton >Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards >To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > >Message-ID: <1084821581.4438.21.camel at localhost.localdomain> >Content-Type: text/plain > >Thank you guys for all the answers, fedora is really nice. > >I have a haevy enterprise web application (Apache/PHP) running with 600 >users (active sessions) on a 4x SMP Pentium III 550MHz each (RH9 - >2.4.20smp). Right now the poor server is very stressed and I have >detected bottlenecks in the network (100Mbps) due to the high traffic >between the web server and the database. So, I am planning to make the >leap from 100 to 1GB network. > >Is there any advice from all of you regarding this? I have a good >experience with linux but this is the first time I am going to work in >the gigabit arena. > >I am afraid that it is a bad assumption to think that 1Gb will improve >transfer speeds just like that. Maybe there is some deeper >configuration / tuning left to be done after installing the new card. > >Thanks, > > >-William > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 17 >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:29:09 -0700 >From: Thorsten >Subject: VMware and Fedora Core 2 >To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com >Message-ID: <1084822101.2061.21.camel at localhost.localdomain> >Content-Type: text/plain > >Hello guys >do anyone know how you can running the vmware 4.0.5 under fedora core 2? >I have installed the vmware 4.0.5 under fedora core 2 and the >installation worked without any problems. But if I start the >vmware-config.pl script it can't find the kernel sources. I have >installed the kernel sources which match with my running kernel. If I >start the vmware-config.pl script again it told me that the kernel >c-header files didn't matched with my running kernel. After that I >copied the version.h from /lib/modules/.... to my /usr/src/.... I >started the vmware-scripts again and it tolds me that the kernel address >space size from my kernel sources didn't match with my running kernel. >And so here we are. I have no clue what I can do know. >Have some of you a solution or did some of you tried this to install the >vmware under fedora core 2? >Thanks for helping >Ciao >Thorsten > > > > >------------------------------ > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list at redhat.com >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > >End of fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 121 >************************************************ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page ? FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Mon May 17 19:42:13 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:42:13 -0400 Subject: VMware and Fedora Core 2 In-Reply-To: <1084822101.2061.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084822101.2061.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084822932.1881.576.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 15:29, Thorsten wrote: > Hello guys > do anyone know how you can running the vmware 4.0.5 under fedora core 2? > I have installed the vmware 4.0.5 under fedora core 2 and the > installation worked without any problems. But if I start the > vmware-config.pl script it can't find the kernel sources. I have > installed the kernel sources which match with my running kernel. If I > start the vmware-config.pl script again it told me that the kernel > c-header files didn't matched with my running kernel. After that I > copied the version.h from /lib/modules/.... to my /usr/src/.... I > started the vmware-scripts again and it tolds me that the kernel address > space size from my kernel sources didn't match with my running kernel. > And so here we are. I have no clue what I can do know. > Have some of you a solution or did some of you tried this to install the > vmware under fedora core 2? First get the free upgrade to 4.5.1 from vmware, then install the vmware-any-any-update-67 or later from http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/ Phil From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 19:50:23 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:50:23 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517194417.GI15541@ece.arizona.edu> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> <20040517194417.GI15541@ece.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <20040517155023.1c703b99.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 12:44:18 -0700 Michael Stenner wrote: > But they do not CLAIM to support it. This would be a different issue > if FC2 clearly said that your windows partition would be un-bootable. > Instead, it offers to set it up for you. No they don't. There is no support at all for anything in Fedora. AT ALL. Nothing. If it breaks, you own both halves. Everyone wants a good working system. We're all here to work towards a better system. The point is that whining is unproductive. Help the developers solve the problem or be quiet until it's fixed. Cheers, Sean. From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 19:53:38 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:53:38 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A889E8.3040209@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A889E8.3040209@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040517155338.399eb719.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 05:46:16 -0400 Phil Savoie wrote: > Sure Sean. This is a product. This is no different than a car company > promoting a new state of the art car. Everything works except they > don't tell you that the brakes that used to work in reverse last year > don't this year. But according to you, if you need to back up, you are > a loser. Huh? This is not a product. This is a free release for hobbyists and enthusiasts. If you want the right to whine, pay for a copy of a RedHat product or another distro or even something from the closed source world. Sean. From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 19:56:13 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:56:13 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040517155613.37cac708.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 12:02:04 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2004, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > > > This hardly counts as a major flaw and IMHO Linux distros don't have to > > prove themselves to anyone anyway. > > yes it is, and yes they do. get a grip. given the pitched battle between > microsoft and linux at the moment, how many potential converts (many of > whom will be running XP) do you think will be impressed with the attitude > of, "hey, this is linux, we don't give a crap about your windows stuff." > > oh, yeah, that'll win piles of new friends. You have a misconception about what Fedora is all about. There is no room for whining. If it doesn't work, help fix it. If you can't help fix it, sit on your hands until it's fixed for you. Sean. From whb at ceimaine.org Mon May 17 20:01:02 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:01:02 -0400 Subject: uw-imap from FC1 works on FC2 Message-ID: <1084824062.2627.103.camel@d1ntpm41> Just a note for those of you who don't want to change mail server software just yet... It looks as though the RPM for uw-imap from FC1 works on FC2. (At least imap does, didn't try pop3) Perhaps this rpm can be submitted to fedora.us as a starting point. It is only version 2002d plus patches, and the current version is 2004, but this might help us out until I (or anyone else) can rebuild from the FC1 spec file. Does this sound like crazy talk? From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Mon May 17 20:04:11 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:04:11 +0200 Subject: Token Ring driver not compiled in FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040517174705.GB22919@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084814174.17399.10.camel@jsavoy.raleigh.ibm.com> <20040517174705.GB22919@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084824251.5889.18.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 17.05.2004 schrieb Alan Cox um 19:47: > Right now it seems > the only large token ring network on the planet (and the one that breaks > stuff reliabily and rapidly) belongs to a large blue company. and some others used by large customers of that blue company (and some smaller customers, too). Would be nice if in one of the next kernel updates token ring is enabled again. Did you file a bugzilla entry? Peter From geoff at direcway.com Mon May 17 20:15:09 2004 From: geoff at direcway.com (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:15:09 -0700 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A8B994.6030107@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040516180319.69d4c92c.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8B994.6030107@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <20040517201509.GA2699@mtranch.mtranch.com> On 05.17 06:09, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Ok , I'm tired of this discussion leading to nowhere.. So , let's get > back on line.. [tales of woe snipped] Not to be a Polyanma, but perhaps the reason why there has been no response from RH is that the problem is not reproducable in their environment. Here's what I've added to 115980. -- begin Bugzilla Hmmmm ... but is FC2 to blame? Here's my experience. Windows XT installed in a 5G partition by vendor (which means that the disks were originally formatted in the XP environment). FC2t2 installed locally, as P4-class (ie no 64-bit opts). MB is dual Opteron AccelerTech ATO2082-A with Phoenix BIOS, version 6. %fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 37.0 GB, 37019566080 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4500 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 637 5116671 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 638 650 104422+ 83 Linux /dev/sda3 651 4500 30925125 83 Linux Install worked flawlessly, even detected SATA disks. SMP kernel selected No problem with dual boot. --- end Bugzilla Re-reading the comments in Bugzilla, I see a lot of heat, but very little light. In particular, I find no mention of MB mfg and BIOS mfg and version, which means we're missing potentially significant info. Here's what I'd suggest. Would someone with expertise in this area come up with a procedure to follow, beginning with a raw disk? Install Windows or Linux first? Partition setup, .... etc. Follow this with a set of questions to be answered, as to hardware, BIOS, etc. Perhaps the critical factors can be discovered. And, of course, we can all agree that anyone who does not wish to participated according to the rules looses the right to complain :-) From jwramsey at pobox.com Mon May 17 20:20:32 2004 From: jwramsey at pobox.com (Jim Ramsey) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:20:32 -0400 Subject: How to interpret BIOS E820 information Message-ID: <200405171620.32947.jwramsey@pobox.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.ctyme.com/intr is in general a really handy resource. For this specific question, look at http://www.ctyme.com/intr/rb-1741.htm - -- Regards, Jim Ramsey -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqR6QDGYt4MQyo3IRAi+0AJ0fk3oL0UNlkJYEMeB3yEPtpUWVGgCfalVF beC9IdNfiplR0ULByJn3PsQ= =Q/Xc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From michael at epm2.com Mon May 17 20:34:23 2004 From: michael at epm2.com (Michael Hatzel) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:34:23 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517201534.DFDCB73F92@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: >> But they do not CLAIM to support it. This would be a different issue >> if FC2 clearly said that your windows partition would be un-bootable. >> Instead, it offers to set it up for you. > >No they don't. There is no support at all for anything in Fedora. AT ALL. >Nothing. If it breaks, you own both halves. Everyone wants a good >working system. We're all here to work towards a better system. The point >is that whining is unproductive. Help the developers solve the problem or >be quiet until it's fixed. As far as I know, XP has never been supported using GRUBs chainloader +1 directive. What I have always had to do is install grub on the first block of boot, use dd to pull the first block of my /boot partition to a file such as Linux.bin dd if=/dev/hda1 of=Linux.bin bs=512 count=1 mount my c:\ under linux, then reboot into windows. Then edit Boot.ini to read something like this: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect c:\Linux.bin="Fedora Core 1" and then reboot again, and GRUB should run fat dumb and happy. This is not a perfect solution, but XP seems to resent being chainloaded. I'm not sure if GRUB developers have created a patch or a more efficient work around for this, but the truth is that dual booting is not a perfect scenario, and shouldn't really be attempted unless you are sure what it is that you are doing. Eventually, I'd like to see some work done in this area, but until then, I'll do what I have to do to make the best of an awkward situation. Mike From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Mon May 17 20:36:54 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:36:54 +0100 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <20040517201534.DFDCB73F92@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040517203654.GA10115@nsk.no-ip.org> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:34:23PM -0400, Michael Hatzel wrote: > As far as I know, XP has never been supported using GRUBs chainloader +1 > directive. What I have always had to do is install grub on the first block > of boot, use dd to pull the first block of my /boot partition to a file such > as Linux.bin I have never had any problems with chainloading Win2k or WinXP (Professional). And I always install grub on the /boot partition. Regards, Luciano Rocha From michael at epm2.com Mon May 17 20:38:51 2004 From: michael at epm2.com (Michael Hatzel) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:38:51 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517203654.GA10115@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: Yeah, but you'd have to be chainloading FROM Win to Linux not from Grub to Win. That's what I was referring to. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 3:37 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:34:23PM -0400, Michael Hatzel wrote: > As far as I know, XP has never been supported using GRUBs chainloader +1 > directive. What I have always had to do is install grub on the first block > of boot, use dd to pull the first block of my /boot partition to a file such > as Linux.bin I have never had any problems with chainloading Win2k or WinXP (Professional). And I always install grub on the /boot partition. Regards, Luciano Rocha -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 20:41:59 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:41:59 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <20040517201534.DFDCB73F92@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040517164159.1e1d8b50.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 16:34:23 -0400 "Michael Hatzel" wrote: > >> But they do not CLAIM to support it. This would be a different issue > >> if FC2 clearly said that your windows partition would be un-bootable. > >> Instead, it offers to set it up for you. > > > >No they don't. There is no support at all for anything in Fedora. AT > ALL. > >Nothing. If it breaks, you own both halves. Everyone wants a good > >working system. We're all here to work towards a better system. The point > >is that whining is unproductive. Help the developers solve the problem or > >be quiet until it's fixed. > > As far as I know, XP has never been supported using GRUBs chainloader +1 > directive. What I have always had to do is install grub on the first block > of boot, use dd to pull the first block of my /boot partition to a file such > as Linux.bin > > dd if=/dev/hda1 of=Linux.bin bs=512 count=1 > > mount my c:\ under linux, then reboot into windows. Then edit Boot.ini to > read something like this: > > [boot loader] > timeout=30 > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS > [operating systems] > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP > Professional" /fastdetect > c:\Linux.bin="Fedora Core 1" > > and then reboot again, and GRUB should run fat dumb and happy. This is not > a perfect solution, but XP seems to resent being chainloaded. I'm not sure > if GRUB developers have created a patch or a more efficient work around for > this, but the truth is that dual booting is not a perfect scenario, and > shouldn't really be attempted unless you are sure what it is that you are > doing. Eventually, I'd like to see some work done in this area, but until > then, I'll do what I have to do to make the best of an awkward situation. > > Mike You're right Mike. It usually works great, and years ago I did the same thing with Windows 2000. But most people in this thread are trying it the other way around. Using grub to start XP. Sean. From netopml at newview.com Mon May 17 20:39:28 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 17 May 2004 16:39:28 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <20040517203654.GA10115@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: michael at epm2.com ("Michael Hatzel") writes: > Yeah, but you'd have to be chainloading FROM Win to Linux not from Grub to > Win. That's what I was referring to. Nope, I too use chainloader +1, even worst I remap the drive (with map (hd0) (hd1), map (hd1) (hd0)) , windows is installed on the second hard drive and it doesn't complain about it... -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From balay at fastmail.fm Mon May 17 20:52:08 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:52:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 17 May 2004, Michael Hatzel wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Luciano Miguel > Ferreira Rocha > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 3:37 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 > > > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:34:23PM -0400, Michael Hatzel wrote: > > As far as I know, XP has never been supported using GRUBs chainloader +1 > > directive. What I have always had to do is install grub on the first > block > > of boot, use dd to pull the first block of my /boot partition to a file > such > > as Linux.bin > > I have never had any problems with chainloading Win2k or WinXP > (Professional). > > And I always install grub on the /boot partition. > > Yeah, but you'd have to be chainloading FROM Win to Linux not from Grub to > Win. That's what I was referring to. I usge grub on /boot as well. I install 'compact boot manager' from 'partition manager' in MBR - so I don't need to chain win/linux boot managers... It directly jumps to the boot sector of selected 'primary partition'. So, to boot to windows or linux I do: 'power-on -> 1 (to select 1st primary partition) -> WinXP boot 'power-on -> 2 (to select 2nd primary partition) -> grub -> linux. However I haven't dual booted FC2T3 - so don't know if this problem can be avoided with my setup.. Satish From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon May 17 21:01:12 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:01:12 -0400 Subject: Realplayer10 !! (was:Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3) In-Reply-To: <200405171255.42461.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <40A7C7A6.3020500@wowway.com> <1084755982.1518.34.camel@duergar> <200405171255.42461.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1084827672.1518.42.camel@duergar> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 06:55, Roland Wolters wrote: > Once upon a time Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 15:57, D James wrote: > > > It's available as a rpm package and it installs and plays fine on FC2. > > > There is a some work to be done, after all this is an alpha product, but > > > you get all the latest Real codecs supported. It installs the binaries > > > in /usr/local/. > > > > Available where? > > Have a look at the download page: > https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/ > > Or did you mean something different? > That's what I meant but I already tried m2.2 and it crashes instantly upon opening any files... -sb > Roland > From mstenner at ece.arizona.edu Mon May 17 22:01:45 2004 From: mstenner at ece.arizona.edu (Michael Stenner) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:01:45 -0700 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517155023.1c703b99.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> <20040517194417.GI15541@ece.arizona.edu> <20040517155023.1c703b99.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040517220144.GJ15541@ece.arizona.edu> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 03:50:23PM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2004 12:44:18 -0700 > Michael Stenner wrote: > > > But they do not CLAIM to support it. This would be a different issue > > if FC2 clearly said that your windows partition would be un-bootable. > > Instead, it offers to set it up for you. > No they don't. There is no support at all for anything in Fedora. > AT ALL. Nothing. If it breaks, you own both halves. I do not mean support in the legal sense. I mean support in the "do it" sense, as in "lynx supports https". The installer offers to set up a dual boot system. When asked to do so, it apparently hoses your system. > Everyone wants a good working system. We're all here to work > towards a better system. The point is that whining is unproductive. > Help the developers solve the problem or be quiet until it's fixed. A valuable part of fixing bugs is analysis of the importance of those bugs. Such discussion is quite valuable, and is not the same as whining. You seemed to be suggesting that this issue was not a problem. Specifically, I felt that your comparison to windows's lack of dual-boot-friendliness incorrectly characterized this as a matter of "not supporting" dual boot. It is more severe than that. This is not a feature request for allowing dual boot. This appears to be a disk-corruption issue which renders some machines unusable. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner at ece.arizona.edu ECE Department, the University of Arizona 520-626-1619 1230 E. Speedway Blvd., Tucson, AZ 85721-0104 ECE 524G From williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co Mon May 17 21:07:02 2004 From: williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co (William Lovaton) Date: 17 May 2004 16:07:02 -0500 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <200405180534.16924.russell@coker.com.au> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405180534.16924.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1084828022.4438.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Russell, El lun, 17-05-2004 a las 14:34, Russell Coker escribi?: > On Tue, 18 May 2004 05:19, William Lovaton > wrote: > > I have a haevy enterprise web application (Apache/PHP) running with 600 > > users (active sessions) on a 4x SMP Pentium III 550MHz each (RH9 - > > 2.4.20smp). Right now the poor server is very stressed and I have > > detected bottlenecks in the network (100Mbps) due to the high traffic > > between the web server and the database. So, I am planning to make the > > leap from 100 to 1GB network. > > Gigabit networking can take quite a lot of CPU power. PHP applications are > often CPU hungry and if you are doing enough to fill a 100baseT network then > it's quite likely that you are already running low on CPU power. Mmmm... interesting, I'm concerned about what you say regarding to Gigabit but not for PHP... in my case, I use an OPCode cache so the compilation overhead is completely eliminated. This is a lot useful, without it the server would burst into flames. :-) > If you get a new 2x SMP system (which will have more than twice the CPU power > of your existing system) you will probably have 2x Gigabit Ethernet ports on > the motherboard. The Broadcom chipsets which seem common for such > motherboards have worked well for me in the past. I agree with you, I need more CPU power (550 is not enough) but we have been optimizing the code, the queries, detecting bottlenecks, etc before making the upgrade. I can measure execution times and there are some queries that takes, let's say 2 seconds executing and 10 seconds fetching the result sets. In this case I can't reduce the number of records because I need the all. The number is not big though. -William From csm at moongroup.com Mon May 17 21:07:27 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:07:27 -0400 Subject: please stop... Message-ID: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> ...talking about windows! Sheesh... if you guys care so much about it go run it. You guys have sent a big pile of messages about an operating system I personally gave up on in it's entirety in 1998 and it's wasting time and stinking up the entire list. If you just *HAVE* to freaking talk about it then make your damn bugzilla report and talk about it there. There is no reason to continue to discuss it here as every possible view point (AND THEN SOME) has been expressed and nobody, anywhere is going to give a crap if you're not going to deal with it in Bugzilla... -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon May 17 21:10:00 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:10:00 -0400 Subject: Realplayer10 !! In-Reply-To: <200405171254.21598.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <20040515050629.8828.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <200405170048.40181.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <1084755209.1518.16.camel@duergar> <200405171254.21598.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1084828199.1518.48.camel@duergar> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 06:54, Roland Wolters wrote: > Hm, you are right in some points, although we get a xmms without any mp3 > support - so we could get a video plaer without support for non GPL/LGPL > codecs as long as it is easy enough to add this support by adding some rpms. > That hurts no one I think. > xmms CAN play other formats as shipped or else they wouldn't ship it... helixplayer is different. -sb > > The day this package is in Fedora is the day I move to another > > distribution. > > Do whatever you want to do, why not? Its the freedom of choice. > Yes I know that, but I wanted my $5 in on this discussion as the Helix player fiasco is playing on my proprietary hatred cause its just a wrapper for binary-licensed stuff, like the nvidia driver only partially as evil (I'd really like to see the voodoo going on those drivers) -sb > Roland > From jrobertson at convera.com Mon May 17 21:10:16 2004 From: jrobertson at convera.com (Joe Robertson) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:10:16 -0700 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards Message-ID: Note that, depending on the switch you are using, kickstart will not work with at least the Intel e1000.ko driver. See references on the kickstart mailing list https://www.redhat.com/archives/kickstart-list/2004-May/msg00017.html Thanks, Joe > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Lane [mailto:mark at harddata.com] > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:49 AM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: Gigabit ethernet cards > > > On May 17, 2004 11:38 am, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:11:23PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > > > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is > known to work > > > well in FC2?? > > > > Im using realtek 8169 - not the flashiest or fastest but > works rather > > nicely and is incredibly cheap > > Alan, it must like you. I have an onboard 8169 that worked > fine when it > worked. The device would disappear on every other boot. > > -- > Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com > Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com > T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 > 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 > --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon May 17 21:11:08 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:11:08 -0400 Subject: Realplayer9 ?? fedora2test3 In-Reply-To: <20040517164839.GB15849@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040515211354.40AF6739BF@hormel.redhat.com> <20040516170937.27590.qmail@web11409.mail.yahoo.com> <20040517164839.GB15849@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084828268.1518.50.camel@duergar> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 12:48, Alan Cox wrote: > Unless things have changed the real and other proprietary codecs are > still non free and still attract fees in some cases > Nothing has changed. Just new buzz over a new build. The same wicked 'gotchas' remain. -sb From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 21:12:55 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:12:55 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517220144.GJ15541@ece.arizona.edu> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A8323D.6010106@earthlink.net> <20040517001019.40240043.seanlkml@rogers.com> <20040517194417.GI15541@ece.arizona.edu> <20040517155023.1c703b99.seanlkml@rogers.com> <20040517220144.GJ15541@ece.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <20040517171255.1f732c96.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 15:01:45 -0700 Michael Stenner wrote: > I do not mean support in the legal sense. I mean support in the "do > it" sense, as in "lynx supports https". The installer offers to set > up a dual boot system. When asked to do so, it apparently hoses your > system. > > > Everyone wants a good working system. We're all here to work > > towards a better system. The point is that whining is unproductive. > > Help the developers solve the problem or be quiet until it's fixed. > > A valuable part of fixing bugs is analysis of the importance of > those bugs. Such discussion is quite valuable, and is not the same as > whining. This is a fair point. As long as people have a real understanding about what Fedora is supposed to be. It's not supposed to be the rock solid aunt Tilly distribution used to convert the world from some other operating system to Linux. It's meant for hobbyists and enthusiasts who can deal with problems. Trying to motivate developers by invoking claims of how bad it will be for PR isn't helpful. > You seemed to be suggesting that this issue was not a problem. > Specifically, I felt that your comparison to windows's lack of > dual-boot-friendliness incorrectly characterized this as a matter of > "not supporting" dual boot. It is more severe than that. This is not > a feature request for allowing dual boot. This appears to be a > disk-corruption issue which renders some machines unusable. It's a problem. Just not the end of the world given the viewpoint of what Fedora is supposed to be. It will get fixed. Cheers, Sean. From dsavage at peaknet.net Mon May 17 21:22:19 2004 From: dsavage at peaknet.net (dsavage at peaknet.net) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:22:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: VMware and Fedora Core 2 In-Reply-To: <1084822101.2061.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084822101.2061.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <15513.140.175.214.33.1084828939.squirrel@www.peaknet.net> On Monday May 17, 2004 at 2:29 p.m. "Thorsten" wrote: > Hello guys > do anyone know how you can running the vmware 4.0.5 under fedora core 2? > I have installed the vmware 4.0.5 under fedora core 2 and the > installation worked without any problems. But if I start the > vmware-config.pl script it can't find the kernel sources. I have > installed the kernel sources which match with my running kernel. If I > start the vmware-config.pl script again it told me that the kernel > c-header files didn't matched with my running kernel. After that I > copied the version.h from /lib/modules/.... to my /usr/src/.... I > started the vmware-scripts again and it tolds me that the kernel address > space size from my kernel sources didn't match with my running kernel. > And so here we are. I have no clue what I can do know. > Have some of you a solution or did some of you tried this to install the > vmware under fedora core 2? Thorsten, You may need to add a soft link between /usr/src/linux and your /usr/src/linux-2.6.xxxxx directory so the vmware-config.pl utility can find the version.h file in /usr/src/linux/include. BTW, there's also a VMware-4.5.1-7568 you'll probably want to upgrade to. --Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL Fedora Core 1 kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl on P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov From russell at coker.com.au Mon May 17 21:24:29 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:24:29 +1000 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084828022.4438.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405180534.16924.russell@coker.com.au> <1084828022.4438.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405180724.29592.russell@coker.com.au> On Tue, 18 May 2004 07:07, William Lovaton wrote: > I can measure execution times and there are some queries that takes, > let's say 2 seconds executing and 10 seconds fetching the result sets. > In this case I can't reduce the number of records because I need the > all. The number is not big though. If your 100baseT network is working correctly then a 10 second delay corresponds to 100MB of data being transferred. Are you sure it's network speed and not database server speed? Maybe getting faster disks and/or more RAM in the database server will give more benefit. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 17 21:26:17 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 05:26:17 +0800 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <40A8A405.3020506@insight.rr.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> <1084772982.9692.29.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A8A405.3020506@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <1084829176.4496.16.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 19:37, Jim Cornette wrote: > I was wondering if a CDROM created from a fragmented retrieval would > hunt all over the place for bits and pieces of files. Those motors of > hunting operations from CDROMs can be quite noisy. I don't believe it works like that. If a CD/DVD is fragmented on the hard drive, the hard drive will seek like mad when writing the CD/DVD, but the resulting CD/DVD will be identical to the original. Any thrashing on the burned copy will be same as the original. -- Chris Kloiber From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 17 21:26:44 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:26:44 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <20040517203654.GA10115@nsk.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <604aa791040517142665ab050c@mail.gmail.com> On 17 May 2004 16:39:28 -0400, netopml at newview.com > Nope, I too use chainloader +1, even worst I remap the drive (with map > (hd0) (hd1), map (hd1) (hd0)) , windows is installed on the second hard > drive and it doesn't complain about it... I can beat that! I have to do a partition hide.... thanks to hp's hidden restore partition. title Windows XP map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) hide (hd1,0) rootnoverify (hd1,1) makeactive chainloader +1 -jef"should we have a competition for most gratuitiously complicated grub stanza"spaleta From stan at ccs.neu.edu Mon May 17 21:37:07 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:37:07 -0400 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 17:07, Chuck Mead wrote: > ...talking about windows! > > Sheesh... if you guys care so much about it go run it. > They can't run it, that's the problem. I'm sorry to have to say this but this is a test-list and a great many Linux users (myself included, though I haven't had to boot in a while) MUST also have windows installed because of certain apps, or requirements. For instance I had to have it installed to use Visual Studio for classes. So it is a legitimate issue if we regress to the point where people can't use both without a lot of headaches (granted most are caused by MS). People trying to migrating from Windows don't need to be told go home or whatnot. > You guys have sent a big pile of messages about an operating system I > personally gave up on in it's entirety in 1998 and it's wasting time and > stinking up the entire list. If you just *HAVE* to freaking talk about > it then make your damn bugzilla report and talk about it there. There is As was pointed out there are bugzilla IDs open, but I guess some people wanted to point out its been a problem since February (according to a post, I don't use XP so I don't know that for fact), and they wanted to air their concerns about releasing FC2 while this is a problem. Which again is fine. This is a test-list and such threads will occur. If someone has a problem with the parameters of what determines a release then again, this is probably an alright place to air those concerns. > no reason to continue to discuss it here as every possible view point > (AND THEN SOME) has been expressed and nobody, anywhere is going to give > a crap if you're not going to deal with it in Bugzilla... > It's in bugzilla and has some dupes ;-) -sb (There a non-beligerent message from ME for once ;) > -- > csm at moongroup.com, head geek > http://moongroup.com > From csm at moongroup.com Mon May 17 21:42:29 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:42:29 -0400 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> Stan Bubrouski wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 17:07, Chuck Mead wrote: > >>...talking about windows! >> >>Sheesh... if you guys care so much about it go run it. >> > > > They can't run it, that's the problem. Nope. They absolutely can run it and if they're going to then they ought to just run it and be done. What made Fedora essential? Nothing... if windows is essential then run it and to hell with Fedora... just stop talking about it in here. Nobody's talking about the technical stuff any more... they're all pontificating and they have been since yesterday. Crap on a crutch anyway! 'sides... it's my suspicion that the "essential software" they're all geeked up about is some kind of game. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Mon May 17 21:43:06 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:43:06 -0300 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084812254.29444.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <40A8E00F.80009@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <1084812254.29444.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40A931EA.6020007@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Marshall Lewis wrote: >Wouldn't determining if his suggested fix works be useful in determining >the potential cause? > > > Sorry.. I had forgotten to say that I tried all the methods I knew to restore windows .. I ended using the most common: reinstall :P I'll try to do a upgrade as soon as I get the core 2 images to test this (when I had this problem , it was a clean install on a clean HD) and then do a clean install to see if it brakes things.. -- Pedro Macedo From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Mon May 17 21:52:47 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:52:47 -0300 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <40A9342F.3030301@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Chuck Mead wrote: > Nope. They absolutely can run it and if they're going to then they > ought to just run it and be done. What made Fedora essential? > Nothing... if windows is essential then run it and to hell with > Fedora... just stop talking about it in here. Nobody's talking about > the technical stuff any more... they're all pontificating and they > have been since yesterday. Crap on a crutch anyway! > > 'sides... it's my suspicion that the "essential software" they're all > geeked up about is some kind of game. > First: they cant run. I've had problems with this bug and windows stops loading for good.... only doing some weird things (including swapping disks around) I was able to install windows and test3.. Second: what if the "essential software" is really a game? Most of the good games dont run in linux , so we have to have either two computers or dual-boot systems... And I have to admit that I'm addicted to games , so I'll remove windows only when all games start running in linux.. Also , there are lots of applications which only run in windows and have no similar apps in linux.. Now , I have to agree that this is not the right place to discuss if microsoft or redhat is wrong... Something is broke and we need to find out what is causing this, no matter whose fault is it... Some people will always need dual-boot , no matter if it is to play a game or to run a application which has no similar in the linux world... So , now I'm back to work... time to search for a place to dl FC2 and start messing arround trying to be bit by this bug again... -- Pedro Macedo From joe at swelltech.com Mon May 17 22:09:50 2004 From: joe at swelltech.com (Joe Cooper) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:09:50 -0500 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <40A9342F.3030301@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> <40A9342F.3030301@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <40A9382E.9020307@swelltech.com> Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Chuck Mead wrote: > >> Nope. They absolutely can run it and if they're going to then they >> ought to just run it and be done. What made Fedora essential? >> Nothing... if windows is essential then run it and to hell with >> Fedora... just stop talking about it in here. Nobody's talking about >> the technical stuff any more... they're all pontificating and they >> have been since yesterday. Crap on a crutch anyway! >> >> 'sides... it's my suspicion that the "essential software" they're all >> geeked up about is some kind of game. >> > First: they cant run. I've had problems with this bug and windows stops > loading for good.... only doing some weird things (including swapping > disks around) I was able to install windows and test3.. The point Chuck was trying to make (and I thought he made it pretty clear) was that this ought to be a bugzilla discussion, and everyone who has the problem ought to be filling in all of the relevant details of their system so someone who has the ability to fix it can begin to figure out its cause. The issue is not whether it should be fixed. The issue is whether anyone who has seen the bug will shut up long enough to submit a proper bug report and follow-up with whoever is assigned the bug. I'm sure your bug is very important to you, but it is not worth this much disussion, if there is nothing new to add (like a workaround). Spend your time reproducing the bug and submitting a good bug report to bugzilla. From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Mon May 17 22:10:22 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 01:10:22 +0300 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <1084831822.2858.19.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 00:42, Chuck Mead wrote: > Nobody's talking about the technical stuff any > more... they're all pontificating and they have been since yesterday. You are right. Ever since someone, who by the way has been very active on this list trying to identify and track down solvable problems, dared to voice the opinion that this was a critical issue, there has been a lot of pontificating. There is nothing wrong with someone expressing saying that it is not a good idea to release software that says it will do something but ends up trashing an existing setup. In case you didn't notice, Redhat took this problem seriously and publicly asked people to describe environments that failed. Even our frequent warnings from Jef "the transient middle name" Spaleta, never suggested that release software eats babies. The signal to noise ratio on this list would be a lot higher if people were not flamed for trying to influence the decision process of Redhat. From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 17 22:15:08 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:15:08 +0800 Subject: Token Ring driver not compiled in FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084814174.17399.10.camel@jsavoy.raleigh.ibm.com> References: <1084814174.17399.10.camel@jsavoy.raleigh.ibm.com> Message-ID: <1084832108.4496.37.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 01:16, Jeremy Savoy wrote: > Looks like the IBM Token Ring drivers are not compiled in FC2. While I > don't mind the exercise of compiling them and the kernel myself, it > seems like this might be a defect since there are actually quite a few > of us out here that still use TR, especially here inside of IBM. You should determine who at IBM is in direct contact with the Red Hat Technical Account Manager here, and make these requirements known. While more fitting for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, it certainly can't hurt. > I would like to compile the drivers as modules and just use them with > the current FC2 kernel - in the past I've always had symbol trouble > trying to do this - anyone out there have any pointers? Install the kernel-2.6.*.src.rpm then modify the *.config files for the kernels you are interested in. Then in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS run: # rpmbuild -ba kernel.spec You will have a nice shiny new (custom) kernel with the additional modules you desire. -- Chris Kloiber From netopml at newview.com Mon May 17 22:12:48 2004 From: netopml at newview.com (netopml at newview.com) Date: 17 May 2004 18:12:48 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <604aa791040517142665ab050c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040517203654.GA10115@nsk.no-ip.org> <604aa791040517142665ab050c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) writes: > I can beat that! > [...] Damn you! -- Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer E-Mail : mathieu at newview.com Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor -- From alan at redhat.com Mon May 17 22:18:50 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:18:50 -0400 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040517221850.GA25693@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 02:19:41PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > I am afraid that it is a bad assumption to think that 1Gb will improve > transfer speeds just like that. Maybe there is some deeper > configuration / tuning left to be done after installing the new card. Make sure you get a card that is 66Mhz and/or 64bit if your PCI busses can take it, and if not definitely that its on its own bus. PCI 32/33Mhz is too slow to make best use of gigabit. On desktop boxes the PCI bus typically ends up a bottleneck. Good servers tend to work out better - keep the disk and gige on different pci busses etc From fedora at andrewfarris.com Mon May 17 22:19:25 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:19:25 -0700 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <1084832365.1686.3.camel@CirithUngol> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 17:07 -0400, Chuck Mead wrote: > ...talking about windows! > > Sheesh... if you guys care so much about it go run it. > > You guys have sent a big pile of messages about an operating system I > personally gave up on in it's entirety in 1998 and it's wasting time and > stinking up the entire list. If you just *HAVE* to freaking talk about > it then make your damn bugzilla report and talk about it there. Your personal usage patterns should not dictate what is, and isn't, tested or discussed.. Windows interaction is necessary and good. I suggest you spend a few minutes with your preferred email filtering mechanism if this is a problem for you. Test lists.. need to test and discuss what does not work -- you do not have to read it *all*. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke) From mark at harddata.com Mon May 17 22:14:43 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:14:43 -0600 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405171614.43473.mark@harddata.com> On May 17, 2004 03:10 pm, "Joe Robertson" wrote: > Note that, depending on the switch you are using, kickstart > will not work with at least the Intel e1000.ko driver. > > See references on the kickstart mailing list > https://www.redhat.com/archives/kickstart-list/2004-May/msg00017.html > Intel supplies support for newer chipsets. Whether you can do a PxeBoot Install or need to get the nic running after installing Fedora Core 2 are two separate issues. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net Mon May 17 22:22:54 2004 From: lwn-fedora-test at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:22:54 -0600 Subject: openoffice crashes with x86_64 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 May 2004 10:31:28 EDT." <1084804288.20765.0.camel@stealth.moongroup.org> Message-ID: <20040517222254.20382.qmail@lwn.net> > It appears that openoffice is not usable with FC2T3 x86_64. It crashes > everytime I try to run it (doesn't matter which app). FWIW, it works for me. It does the occasional bizarre thing, but I've always seen that as a platform-independent feature of OOo. jon From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 22:24:45 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:24:45 -0400 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <1084831822.2858.19.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> <1084831822.2858.19.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <20040517182445.57f3e203.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Tue, 18 May 2004 01:10:22 +0300 shmuel siegel wrote: > > There is nothing wrong with someone expressing saying that it is not a > good idea to release software that says it will do something but ends up > trashing an existing setup. In case you didn't notice, Redhat took this > problem seriously and publicly asked people to describe environments > that failed. Even our frequent warnings from Jef "the transient middle > name" Spaleta, never suggested that release software eats babies. Several people have shown a real misconception about what the Fedora project is. To claim that the reason to fix a bug is PR or because we will lose more converts from the Windows world completely misses the point and is offensive. The problem will get solved and self serving angst over PR isn't useful. > The signal to noise ratio on this list would be a lot higher if people > were not flamed for trying to influence the decision process of Redhat. Nobody ever gets flamed for making a helpful contribution to a bug report. Cheers, Sean. From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon May 17 22:31:46 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:31:46 -0400 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <1084831822.2858.19.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> <1084831822.2858.19.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <604aa791040517153112e2786e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 18 May 2004 01:10:22 +0300, shmuel siegel wrote: > There is nothing wrong with someone expressing saying that it is not a > good idea to release software that says it will do something but ends up > trashing an existing setup. In case you didn't notice, Redhat took this > problem seriously and publicly asked people to describe environments > that failed. Even our frequent warnings from Jef "the transient middle > name" Spaleta, never suggested that release software eats babies. I also never suggested hardware level problems dont make it through into full releases either. Sadly, the people reporting the problem haven't been very specific about mobo and bios specifics. The fact that one reporter in a comment was able to magically stop seeing the problem with what sounds like a bios upgrade https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115980#c11 suggests that this is a very subtle interaction at the hardware/bios layer and its NOT going to be easily reproducible by developers unless they can get their hands on systems that are seeing the problem. What would be really cool...is if someone can try to reproduce the problem outside of the installer environment, using grub-install in a controlled manner, both under 2.4 kernel and a 2.6 kernel, using as much else similar as possible...i am not convinced that this is not something at the kernel level. I don't claim to fully understand how grub gets its disk geometry information. But trying to do this in a controlled way..and figure out if this is limited to the installer environment...and if this is a 2.6 kernel specific issue...might get us somewhere. -jef"test releases eat babies...dual boots eat data... backups have always been advisable when doing any upgrade or install on a drive with pre-existing data..and will always be advisable"spaleta From jsavoy at nc.rr.com Mon May 17 22:34:05 2004 From: jsavoy at nc.rr.com (Jeremy Savoy) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:34:05 -0400 Subject: Token Ring driver not compiled in FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040517201534.84E9773F81@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040517201534.84E9773F81@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084833245.2729.23.camel@f150.5205.net> Found that ibmtr.c will not compile. Line 865 ... add_wait_queue(&ti->wait_for_reset, &__wait) is missing the ; at the end of the line. It compiles now and so does ibmtr_cs.c which was dependent on ibmtr.c I will have to wait until the morning when I get back to work to try the driver out. A bugzilla report has been filed. The bug number is 123391Re: Token Ring driver not compiled in FC2 Jeremy Savoy ----------------- IBM Retail Store Solutions Software Engineer From williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co Mon May 17 22:34:48 2004 From: williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co (William Lovaton) Date: 17 May 2004 17:34:48 -0500 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <200405180724.29592.russell@coker.com.au> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405180534.16924.russell@coker.com.au> <1084828022.4438.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405180724.29592.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <1084833287.4433.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Russell, That would be true if that query were the only one. Keep in mind that there are lots (LOTS!) of other queries executing, aproximately 120 queries per second. That's an old value, today the load is much higher. -William El lun, 17-05-2004 a las 16:24, Russell Coker escribi?: > On Tue, 18 May 2004 07:07, William Lovaton > wrote: > > I can measure execution times and there are some queries that takes, > > let's say 2 seconds executing and 10 seconds fetching the result sets. > > In this case I can't reduce the number of records because I need the > > all. The number is not big though. > > If your 100baseT network is working correctly then a 10 second delay > corresponds to 100MB of data being transferred. Are you sure it's network > speed and not database server speed? Maybe getting faster disks and/or more > RAM in the database server will give more benefit. From alan at clueserver.org Mon May 17 20:54:35 2004 From: alan at clueserver.org (alan) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A931EA.6020007@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 May 2004, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Marshall Lewis wrote: > > >Wouldn't determining if his suggested fix works be useful in determining > >the potential cause? > > > > > > > Sorry.. I had forgotten to say that I tried all the methods I knew to > restore windows .. I ended using the most common: reinstall :P > I'll try to do a upgrade as soon as I get the core 2 images to test this > (when I had this problem , it was a clean install on a clean HD) and > then do a clean install to see if it brakes things.. Maybe the install should backup the mbr "just in case". From rjohnson at medata.com Mon May 17 22:39:13 2004 From: rjohnson at medata.com (Rick Johnson) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:39:13 -0700 Subject: uw-imap from FC1 works on FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084824062.2627.103.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <1084824062.2627.103.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <40A93F11.2090705@medata.com> Will Backman wrote: > Just a note for those of you who don't want to change mail server > software just yet... > It looks as though the RPM for uw-imap from FC1 works on FC2. (At least > imap does, didn't try pop3) Perhaps this rpm can be submitted to > fedora.us as a starting point. > It is only version 2002d plus patches, and the current version is 2004, > but this might help us out until I (or anyone else) can rebuild from the > FC1 spec file. > > Does this sound like crazy talk? Somewhat - Dovecot (the new default) out of the box supports mbox. Only minor changes are required to transition from uw-imap to Dovecot. One may be the client mail prefix (which can be fixed in the config to behave similarly to uw-imap), and the other being the migration of the .mailboxes file to .subscriptions (to manage client mailbox subscriptions). In the end, it's not a difficult migration if you're handy with scripts, and doing such a migration opens the door for many other nifty upgrades such as moving from mbox to maildir (to allow simultaneous mailbox access, etc.). The biggest benefit, however, is the performance increase your users will notice since dovecot indexes messages externally. HTH, -Rick -- Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - rjohnson at medata.com Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc. PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc From mrsam at courier-mta.com Mon May 17 22:57:31 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:57:31 -0400 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040517173823.GM15849@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200405171148.46688.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: Mark Lane writes: > On May 17, 2004 11:38 am, Alan Cox wrote: >> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:11:23PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: >> > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work >> > well in FC2?? >> >> Im using realtek 8169 - not the flashiest or fastest but works rather >> nicely and is incredibly cheap > > Alan, it must like you. I have an onboard 8169 that worked fine when it > worked. The device would disappear on every other boot. For the hell of it, try disabling kudzu. Kudzu likes to eat 10/100 Realteks for breakfast. 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Nobody's talking about >> the technical stuff any more... they're all pontificating and they >> have been since yesterday. Crap on a crutch anyway! >> >> 'sides... it's my suspicion that the "essential software" they're all >> geeked up about is some kind of game. >> > First: they cant run. I've had problems with this bug and windows stops > loading for good.... only doing some weird things (including swapping > disks around) I was able to install windows and test3.. > Second: what if the "essential software" is really a game? Most of the > good games dont run in linux , so we have to have either two computers > or dual-boot systems... And I have to admit that I'm addicted to games , > so I'll remove windows only when all games start running in linux.. Also > , there are lots of applications which only run in windows and have no > similar apps in linux.. So Fedora is not "essential" and windows is. Great... run windows and quit trying to reinvent the wheel or complain about the fact that someone won't fix a bug that clearly they'll get arouns to some day. What in the sam hill does dual booting have to do with a hobbiest's release which is really just a test platform? Nothing! > Now , I have to agree that this is not the right place to discuss if > microsoft or redhat is wrong... Something is broke and we need to find > out what is causing this, no matter whose fault is it... Right... and since it's been "bugzilla'd" already it seems to me like maybe this dawg is put to bed! -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From mark at harddata.com Mon May 17 22:56:35 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:56:35 -0600 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405171148.46688.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: <200405171656.35932.mark@harddata.com> On May 17, 2004 04:57 pm, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Mark Lane writes: > > On May 17, 2004 11:38 am, Alan Cox wrote: > >> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:11:23PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > >> > the network card to a Gigabit ethernet. What model is known to work > >> > well in FC2?? > >> > >> Im using realtek 8169 - not the flashiest or fastest but works rather > >> nicely and is incredibly cheap > > > > Alan, it must like you. I have an onboard 8169 that worked fine when it > > worked. The device would disappear on every other boot. > > For the hell of it, try disabling kudzu. Kudzu likes to eat 10/100 > Realteks for breakfast. Perhaps the Gigabits suffer the same fate. Nah it's not Kudzu. The hardware device just disappears. It's a flaky implementation and probably the board manufacturer's problem and not a Realtek Problem. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From seanlkml at rogers.com Mon May 17 23:13:48 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 19:13:48 -0400 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <40A9447B.6020801@moongroup.com> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> <40A9342F.3030301@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <40A9447B.6020801@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <20040517191348.2f465b49.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:02:19 -0400 Chuck Mead wrote: > So Fedora is not "essential" and windows is. Great... run windows and > quit trying to reinvent the wheel or complain about the fact that > someone won't fix a bug that clearly they'll get arouns to some day. > What in the sam hill does dual booting have to do with a hobbiest's > release which is really just a test platform? Nothing! How many ways does this have to be said? You didn't pay anything to get the right to complain. You are free to help fix bugs but you have no god given right to complain about the speed of action of anybody else. If it's such a big deal to you help fix it. This is a participation sport, spectators don't get a say. Regards, Sean From mrsam at courier-mta.com Mon May 17 23:16:05 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 19:16:05 -0400 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405171148.46688.mark@harddata.com> <200405171656.35932.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: Mark Lane writes: > On May 17, 2004 04:57 pm, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >> For the hell of it, try disabling kudzu. Kudzu likes to eat 10/100 >> Realteks for breakfast. Perhaps the Gigabits suffer the same fate. > > Nah it's not Kudzu. The hardware device just disappears. Right. After kudzu has its way, my Realtek also does a very good disappearing act. Well almost, but where's smoke, there's fire. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co Mon May 17 23:18:47 2004 From: williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co (William Lovaton) Date: 17 May 2004 18:18:47 -0500 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <20040517221850.GA25693@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040517221850.GA25693@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084835927.4433.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Alan, El lun, 17-05-2004 a las 17:18, Alan Cox escribi?: > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 02:19:41PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > > I am afraid that it is a bad assumption to think that 1Gb will improve > > transfer speeds just like that. Maybe there is some deeper > > configuration / tuning left to be done after installing the new card. > > Make sure you get a card that is 66Mhz and/or 64bit if your PCI busses > can take it, and if not definitely that its on its own bus. PCI 32/33Mhz > is too slow to make best use of gigabit. I'll check this. > > On desktop boxes the PCI bus typically ends up a bottleneck. Good servers > tend to work out better - keep the disk and gige on different pci busses > etc Well, this server uses SCSI, so I guess there is no problem. Right? I was wondering about CPU consumption. Do you think that 4x 550MHz CPUs are too slow for a GIGE?? -William From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Mon May 17 23:32:57 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 19:32:57 -0400 Subject: New Torrent Files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A94BA9.80505@rogers.com> Dg B wrote: > Here are some new torrent files. > > from kuix.de : > > http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-isos.torrent > http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-DVD.torrent > > LEASE BE A NICE PERSON and do not quit your downloader after you have > finished downloading, at least for a while. Does anyone know why every client downloading is not uploading? Every client is at 0B/s, including myself. Dwaine. From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Mon May 17 23:34:39 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:34:39 -0300 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <40A9447B.6020801@moongroup.com> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> <40A9342F.3030301@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <40A9447B.6020801@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <40A94C0F.3020308@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Chuck Mead wrote: > So Fedora is not "essential" and windows is. Great... run windows and > quit trying to reinvent the wheel or complain about the fact that > someone won't fix a bug that clearly they'll get arouns to some day. > What in the sam hill does dual booting have to do with a hobbiest's > release which is really just a test platform? Nothing! > I didnt say that windows is essential. For me , it is just the OS I use to play. When I need to do real work , I use linux. Now , for many people out there , linux and windows are both essential to work.. Now , please , go out for a few days , relax and then come back to this mailing list. If you cant understand what people write , please dont answer. Your answer , quoted partially above show that you didnt undestand my point (which is a bit subtle , but I believe that it's not so dificult to see it...) that people have dual-boot systems for a reason , no matter which. If you look on the other thread , my second message there is exactly trying to bring the subject back to the original problem and how to fix it or gather data to find out what is wrong. I dont know about you , but I'm here to test things before any end-user gets this software and it destroys their systems and not to whine about something that wont work... I was thinking about mailing the person assigned to the bug , but I really need good data before I do this or before I add another comment on the bug report.. >> Now , I have to agree that this is not the right place to discuss if >> microsoft or redhat is wrong... Something is broke and we need to >> find out what is causing this, no matter whose fault is it... > > > Right... and since it's been "bugzilla'd" already it seems to me like > maybe this dawg is put to bed! Not necessarily. What may be put to bed is this useless discussion. We need to go back to work and discuss what really matters, which is the bug , the situations where it appears , etc. This is why this list exists.. To discuss bugs in the test release (at least, it's test release untill tomorrow..) -- Pedro Macedo From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Mon May 17 23:39:02 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:39:02 +0800 Subject: New Torrent Files In-Reply-To: <40A94BA9.80505@rogers.com> References: <40A94BA9.80505@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1084837142.4496.57.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 07:32, Dwaine Garden wrote: > Dg B wrote: > > > Here are some new torrent files. > > > > from kuix.de : > > > > http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-isos.torrent > > http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-DVD.torrent > > > > LEASE BE A NICE PERSON and do not quit your downloader after you have > > finished downloading, at least for a while. > > Does anyone know why every client downloading is not uploading? Every > client is at 0B/s, including myself. > > Dwaine. Are you behind a firewall? Can you open ports 6881-6890? You can download (and upload) through some firewalls, but it's slower. -- Chris Kloiber From mike at netlyncs.com Mon May 17 23:40:27 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:40:27 -0500 Subject: New Torrent Files In-Reply-To: <40A94BA9.80505@rogers.com> References: <40A94BA9.80505@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1084837227.6046.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 19:32 -0400, Dwaine Garden wrote: > Does anyone know why every client downloading is not uploading? Every > client is at 0B/s, including myself. I'm downloading at around 25-50kB/s and uploading at around 20-30kB/s. Mine has been running around an hour or so, still waiting for the speed to pick up to at least 100kB/s if not faster. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From draek at shaw.ca Mon May 17 23:39:49 2004 From: draek at shaw.ca (Phil Durand) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:39:49 -0600 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> Message-ID: <1084837189.6946.11.camel@S0106000d612bb8aa.cg.shawcable.net> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 13:59 -0400, Anthony DeStefano wrote: > Some people reported it only happens with large disks (> 120GB), but > that's not the case here. It must be for large disks, I have a 80GB drive, and I had no dual boot problems with Windows XP and Fedora Core 2. As a matter of fact, I have several systems setup currently to do this. I'm thinking from the sounds of it, that most people have serious misunderstandings of partitions, and how they are manipulated during installations of operating systems etc. Not that I'm saying that FC2 doesn't cause problems, but that a workaround is probably much easier than it seems. On my laptop, there is a very interesting setup that I think might help a lot of people. This requires three operating systems (these three operating systems are required for my machine, but its combination I think is the key!) Drive 1. 80GB IDE Hard Drive (Holds GRUB Boot Loader) Partition 1. MS-DOS 6.2 - FAT16, Boot Partition (Holds XP's Boot Loader) Partition 2. Extended Partition Partition 3. WindowsXP Pro - NTFS, Partition inside extended. Partition 4. Fedora Core 2 - EXT3, Partition inside extended. Now if you install Linux, it sets up GRUB with 2 entries. DOS and Linux (which I named, WindowsXP/MS-DOS and Fedora Core 2). If you boot DOS, it loads up partition 1, displays the choices of WindowsXP or MS-DOS. Both these boot loaders have timers, so they can all happen quickly if you like things to still go a certain path quickly. I also have a AMD AthlonXP 2600+ with that 80GB drive, and it has XP and FC2t3 working dualboot, I dont have any problems. Phil Durand From greg at gulik.org Mon May 17 23:35:36 2004 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:35:36 -0500 Subject: New Torrent Files In-Reply-To: <40A94BA9.80505@rogers.com> References: <40A94BA9.80505@rogers.com> Message-ID: <40A94C48.4000900@gulik.org> Are you sure you have the BitTorrent ports 6881 ~ 6999 open back towards your client??? I'm uploading quite a bit: speed: 129.9 KB/s down - 75.8 KB/s up Dwaine Garden wrote: > Does anyone know why every client downloading is not uploading? Every > client is at 0B/s, including myself. -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Mon May 17 23:52:47 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 19:52:47 -0400 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <604aa791040517153112e2786e@mail.gmail.com> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> <1084831822.2858.19.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <604aa791040517153112e2786e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1084837966.3808.4.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 17:26 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: ... > -jef"should we have a competition for most gratuitiously complicated > grub stanza"spaleta On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 18:31 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: ... > > -jef"test releases eat babies...dual boots eat data... backups have > always been advisable when doing any upgrade or install on a drive > with pre-existing data..and will always be advisable"spaleta Ahhh - hadn't seen a good -jef"..."spaleta sig lately! :-) -phil"hardly ever has to run winows any more, but still wants it to 'just-work'"schaffner From webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br Mon May 17 23:55:55 2004 From: webmaster at margo.bijoux.nom.br (Pedro Fernandes Macedo) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:55:55 -0300 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084837189.6946.11.camel@S0106000d612bb8aa.cg.shawcable.net> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> <1084837189.6946.11.camel@S0106000d612bb8aa.cg.shawcable.net> Message-ID: <40A9510B.6040002@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Phil Durand wrote: >On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 13:59 -0400, Anthony DeStefano wrote: > > >>Some people reported it only happens with large disks (> 120GB), but >>that's not the case here. >> >> > >It must be for large disks, I have a 80GB drive, and I had no dual boot >problems with Windows XP and Fedora Core 2. As a matter of fact, I have >several systems setup currently to do this. > > > Not only large disks.. It happened to me in a 40Gb disk too... >I'm thinking from the sounds of it, that most people have serious >misunderstandings of partitions, and how they are manipulated during >installations of operating systems etc. Not that I'm saying that FC2 >doesn't cause problems, but that a workaround is probably much easier >than it seems. > > > Not exactly.. I"ve been working with linux for a quite a long time now and never had this kind of problems.. And I really did some really weird stuff with my disks and their partitions.. >Drive 1. 80GB IDE Hard Drive (Holds GRUB Boot Loader) > >Partition 1. MS-DOS 6.2 - FAT16, Boot Partition (Holds XP's Boot Loader) >Partition 2. Extended Partition >Partition 3. WindowsXP Pro - NTFS, Partition inside extended. >Partition 4. Fedora Core 2 - EXT3, Partition inside extended. > Let me see if I undestood: Grub is installed in the MBR of hda and it calls ntldr . Does it also load fedora or fedora is loaded by the ntldr? In my case , I used to have the following situation (had to change it because of this bug): hda: /hda1 --> /boot /hda2 --> windows (fat32) /hda3 --> / /hda4 --> extended /hda5 --> swap /hda6 --> vfat partition to share data between windows and linux /hda7 --> fc1/ (root partition for fc1) Grub was installed in the MBR and it loaded fedora and windows (using chainloader +1 for windows). All the linux partitions were ext3. One thing that we need to check is that everybody that was bitten by this bug was using grub to chainload windows. This looks like it's the situation where the problem appears.. -- Pedro Macedo From alan at redhat.com Mon May 17 23:56:41 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 19:56:41 -0400 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084835927.4433.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040517221850.GA25693@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084835927.4433.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040517235641.GA2487@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 06:18:47PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > > On desktop boxes the PCI bus typically ends up a bottleneck. Good servers > > tend to work out better - keep the disk and gige on different pci busses > > etc > > Well, this server uses SCSI, so I guess there is no problem. Right? Wrong. The SCSI has to be attached somewhere. If its a good server board (as I suspect all quad boards are) it should have the scsi one its own bus or sharing only with some slots - see the docs I guess. > I was wondering about CPU consumption. Do you think that 4x 550MHz CPUs > are too slow for a GIGE?? Doing what ? vmstat may give you some idea on cpu/disk usage and how much the cpus are idle From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Mon May 17 23:59:09 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 19:59:09 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <604aa791040517142665ab050c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040517203654.GA10115@nsk.no-ip.org> <604aa791040517142665ab050c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1084838349.3808.8.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 17:26 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 17 May 2004 16:39:28 -0400, netopml at newview.com > Nope, I too use > chainloader +1, even worst I remap the drive (with map > > (hd0) (hd1), map (hd1) (hd0)) , windows is installed on the second hard > > drive and it doesn't complain about it... > > I can beat that! > I have to do a partition hide.... thanks to hp's hidden restore partition. > title Windows XP > map (hd0) (hd1) > map (hd1) (hd0) > hide (hd1,0) > rootnoverify (hd1,1) > makeactive > chainloader +1 > > > -jef"should we have a competition for most gratuitiously complicated > grub stanza"spaleta Call, but can't raise - you have exactly duplicated mine. Doesn't seem to be gratuitous though. Any less doesn't do the job. Phil From russell at coker.com.au Mon May 17 23:59:40 2004 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:59:40 +1000 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084835927.4433.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040517221850.GA25693@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084835927.4433.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405180959.40020.russell@coker.com.au> On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:18, William Lovaton wrote: > > On desktop boxes the PCI bus typically ends up a bottleneck. Good servers > > tend to work out better - keep the disk and gige on different pci busses > > etc > > Well, this server uses SCSI, so I guess there is no problem. Right? SCSI or IDE makes no difference. You still have to transfer the same amount of data. Whether the disk controller is based on the motherboard or on a PCI card may make a difference. For a SMP machine I hope that they would have a separate PCI bus for on-board devices... -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page From john.wendel at metnet.navy.mil Tue May 18 00:29:13 2004 From: john.wendel at metnet.navy.mil (John Wendel) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:29:13 -0700 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A9510B.6040002@margo.bijoux.nom.br> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <1084837189.6946.11.camel@S0106000d612bb8aa.cg.shawcable.net> <40A9510B.6040002@margo.bijoux.nom.br> Message-ID: <200405171729.13927.john.wendel@metnet.navy.mil> On Monday 17 May 2004 04:55 pm, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > One thing that we need to check is that everybody that was bitten by > this bug was using grub to chainload windows. This looks like it's the > situation where the problem appears.. > > -- Just another data point. /hda1 --> Windows 2000 (ntfs) /hda2 --> fc2t3 (ext3) /hda3 --> swap Grub installed in MBR, uses chainloader +1 for windows. When I installed test3, I repartitioned the disk (using the installer) to remove a /boot partition. No problems of any kind. The box is an old Dell with a 13 GB disk. Regards, John From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Tue May 18 00:57:57 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:57:57 -0400 Subject: final release - p2p or mirrors In-Reply-To: <1084829176.4496.16.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1084607843.3102.18.camel@server1.example.com> <20040515083729.GU25728@leitl.org> <65211.65.40.71.237.1084634671.squirrel@65.40.71.237> <40A666FA.1060900@insight.rr.com> <20040515190931.GK25728@leitl.org> <40A68CBE.8060308@insight.rr.com> <1084700835.27053.53.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A822D7.8080304@insight.rr.com> <1084772982.9692.29.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> <40A8A405.3020506@insight.rr.com> <1084829176.4496.16.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40A95F95.8090607@insight.rr.com> Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 19:37, Jim Cornette wrote: > > >>I was wondering if a CDROM created from a fragmented retrieval would >>hunt all over the place for bits and pieces of files. Those motors of >>hunting operations from CDROMs can be quite noisy. > > > I don't believe it works like that. If a CD/DVD is fragmented on the > hard drive, the hard drive will seek like mad when writing the CD/DVD, > but the resulting CD/DVD will be identical to the original. Any > thrashing on the burned copy will be same as the original. > OK, I was thinking that the iso on the hard disk was going to be the exact representation of what will be burned onto the CD discs. HD Disk thrashing doesn't bother me, if it doesn't effect the CD disc created. If the torrent throws out chunks of the file in predictable sizes, then the torrent might be easier to slice with the added fragmentation. I have to open ports, install bittorrent, grab the torrent file and join in the wave. Hopefully the setup won't take longer (for me), than ftp'ing the images traditionally. Thanks, Jim -- Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold. From whb at ceimaine.org Tue May 18 01:35:09 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:35:09 -0400 Subject: uw-imap from FC1 works on FC2 In-Reply-To: <40A93F11.2090705@medata.com> References: <1084824062.2627.103.camel@d1ntpm41> <40A93F11.2090705@medata.com> Message-ID: <40A9684D.9000608@ceimaine.org> Rick Johnson wrote: > Will Backman wrote: > >> Just a note for those of you who don't want to change mail server >> software just yet... >> It looks as though the RPM for uw-imap from FC1 works on FC2. (At least >> imap does, didn't try pop3) Perhaps this rpm can be submitted to >> fedora.us as a starting point. >> It is only version 2002d plus patches, and the current version is 2004, >> but this might help us out until I (or anyone else) can rebuild from the >> FC1 spec file. >> >> Does this sound like crazy talk? > > > Somewhat - Dovecot (the new default) out of the box supports mbox. > Only minor changes are required to transition from uw-imap to Dovecot. > One may be the client mail prefix (which can be fixed in the config to > behave similarly to uw-imap), and the other being the migration of the > .mailboxes file to .subscriptions (to manage client mailbox > subscriptions). > > In the end, it's not a difficult migration if you're handy with > scripts, and doing such a migration opens the door for many other > nifty upgrades such as moving from mbox to maildir (to allow > simultaneous mailbox access, etc.). The biggest benefit, however, is > the performance increase your users will notice since dovecot indexes > messages externally. > > HTH, > -Rick > Except that we use some shared mailboxes, and I really like the mailadm group feature of uw-imap that lets mail admins log in as anyone. On top of that, uw-imap is quite well tested, and dovecot has some interesting "worries" listed on their web site. Not saying that it is bad, I am just scared of the unknown. uw-imap has a lot of documentation, including half of the Oreilley book managing IMAP. I tried dovecot from FC2T3, which seg faults, and I had to download a version that backed out the last patch from the author to get it working. I guess once bitten twice shy. From zleite at mminternet.com Tue May 18 02:27:28 2004 From: zleite at mminternet.com (Z) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 19:27:28 -0700 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084847248.3350.2.camel@z.canteiros.org> Go multiple interfaces for the database connection, and make sure the switches are not overloaded On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 12:19, William Lovaton wrote: > Thank you guys for all the answers, fedora is really nice. > > I have a haevy enterprise web application (Apache/PHP) running with 600 > users (active sessions) on a 4x SMP Pentium III 550MHz each (RH9 - > 2.4.20smp). Right now the poor server is very stressed and I have > detected bottlenecks in the network (100Mbps) due to the high traffic > between the web server and the database. So, I am planning to make the > leap from 100 to 1GB network. > > Is there any advice from all of you regarding this? I have a good > experience with linux but this is the first time I am going to work in > the gigabit arena. > > I am afraid that it is a bad assumption to think that 1Gb will improve > transfer speeds just like that. Maybe there is some deeper > configuration / tuning left to be done after installing the new card. > > Thanks, > > > -William > > From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Tue May 18 02:49:53 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:49:53 -0400 Subject: bittorrent transfer - OK in FC1, but errors in FC2T3 Message-ID: <40A979D1.2040109@insight.rr.com> I just tested out the bittorrent for FC2T3 to see if I could get the program/script to work. The rpm installed fine, but bittorrent itself errored out. I then tried it out with the bittorent file for fc2t3 on FC1 and it worked. Is there a working version for FC2T3 or should the torrent be done on an FC1 machine? I like the ease that launching the bittorrent file (link) doe all the work. (Makes zero sized files, with names, etc: for the wanted isos, downloads the MD5SUM file, etc:) Thanks for calming the fears with bittorrent! I'm getting about 260 kb/s down speed and 24 kb/s uplink. With this being fc2t3's torrent, fc2 final ought to be interesting. Jim -- Good day to deal with people in high places; particularly lonely stewardesses. From heiny at eznet.net Tue May 18 04:19:21 2004 From: heiny at eznet.net (Christopher Heiny) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:19:21 -0700 Subject: New Torrent Files Message-ID: <200405172119.21266.heiny@eznet.net> Keep including the whole darn digest, and soon we'll need bittorrent just to read the emails.... From markf78 at yahoo.com Tue May 18 05:01:51 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: rsync, NFS, usb, firewire In-Reply-To: <20040515211354.40AF6739BF@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040518050151.34731.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- you wrote: >Trying to rsync an NFS mounted directory to a usb flash drive. The same >process worked fine on the same box under Fedora1, and still works on a >Fedora1 box next to this one. The output of rsync is: >building file list ... done >rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (8 bytes read so far) >rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(342) see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122541. be sure to add your comments and situation to this as well. i thought it was limited to firewire but apparently firewire isn't blame. and since i can duplicate this without using NFS or usb, i doubt NFS or usb is to blame either... unless maybe firewire *and* usb are to blame i.e. it's a problem with rsync and removable devices. mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From ernesto at ornl.gov Tue May 18 05:15:18 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 01:15:18 -0400 Subject: updating to Fedora 2 official release via RAWHIDE Message-ID: <1084857318.3322.11.camel@matrix> Hi, I have been using Fedora rawhide to stay updated. I presume that convergence to Fedora Core 2 is complete: ============================================================== [williams at matrix etc]$ more /etc/redhat-release Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) ============================================================== =========== /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources ========================== yum fedora-core-rawhide \ http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development/i386 ================================================================== Will there be a repository for only Fedora 2 updates and security patches? Or is there only RAWHIDE? Please send the recommended entry for my above "sources" file. For new packages that exist in Fedora 2 that I don't already have on my system, is there a way to have up2date seek these out and ppprovide me with the option to install? If not, can yum do this? PS: What does Tettnang mean? Also, hope the PREEMPT option becomes stable so that I can use it: Linux matrix 2.6.6-1.368 #1 Mon May 17 11:42:59 EDT 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Thanks, -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From mfirmansyah at rsazra.co.id Tue May 18 05:05:06 2004 From: mfirmansyah at rsazra.co.id (mfirmansyah at rsazra.co.id) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:05:06 +0700 (WIT) Subject: Kernel installation failed Message-ID: <34650.202.159.50.56.1084856706.squirrel@mail.rsazra.co.id> I'm downloading kernel-2.6.5.1-358.i686.rpm form fedora core download site, but when i'm installing with rpm an error occures : Segmentation failed Does anyone know how to fix it? From fedora at andrewfarris.com Tue May 18 05:34:40 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:34:40 -0700 Subject: Settings for yum In-Reply-To: <1084780983.23909.4.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1084780983.23909.4.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1084858480.2185.8.camel@CirithUngol> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 09:03 +0100, PFJ wrote: > Hi, > > Now we've hit FC2, what do I need to bung into yum to ensure FC2 is kept > up to date? > > TTFN > > Paul The latest yum (2.0.7-1) package includes the FC2 release yum.conf, it should work fine when the 2 directories are opened. To stay at rawhide you'd uncomment the lower set of entries. [base] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-$releasever [updates-released] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-$releasever #[updates-testing] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever #[development] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree #baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/ # watch out for broken lines here where they don't belong.. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net From manu at kromtek.com Tue May 18 06:32:31 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:32:31 +0400 Subject: Release ? In-Reply-To: <1084857318.3322.11.camel@matrix> References: <1084857318.3322.11.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <200405181032.31804.manu@kromtek.com> Hi, FC2 has been released ? Available for download ? Regards, Manu From mailinglist at fragstealer.de Tue May 18 06:51:37 2004 From: mailinglist at fragstealer.de (Mailinglist) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:51:37 +0200 Subject: Release ? In-Reply-To: <200405181032.31804.manu@kromtek.com> References: <1084857318.3322.11.camel@matrix> <200405181032.31804.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <40A9B279.2080202@fragstealer.de> I am also waiting for the FTP-Mirrors opening for download. I think the official release will be announced on www.fedora.redhat.com :) Greets Chriss Manu Abraham wrote: >Hi, > > FC2 has been released ? Available for download ? > >Regards, >Manu > > > > From josep at imatge-sintetica.com Tue May 18 07:12:24 2004 From: josep at imatge-sintetica.com (Josep Puigdemont) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:12:24 +0200 Subject: Release ? In-Reply-To: <200405181032.31804.manu@kromtek.com> References: <1084857318.3322.11.camel@matrix> <200405181032.31804.manu@kromtek.com> Message-ID: <1084864343.3683.17.camel@deimos> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 08:32, Manu Abraham wrote: > Hi, > > FC2 has been released ? Available for download ? > I think we still have to wait for the Americans to wake up before it is officially the 18th of May 8), and so for Fedora to be officially released. The release note should appear at the web site, and also to the announce mailing list, and then I suppose the FTP servers will be unlocked. After all this time, waiting a few hours more won't hurt :) Regards, Josep From jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk Tue May 18 08:33:13 2004 From: jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:33:13 +0100 Subject: sharing /boot beween FC1 and FC2 Message-ID: <40A9CA49.3070806@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Hi, I want to upgrade my system to FC2, but since it took a long time to get things going correctly in FC1 I want to dual boot both for a while instead of upgrading only to discover things don't work, sharing /home and a few data partitions. I already have a /boot partition for FC1 and I am wondering if I can just point the FC2 install to this during installation - will it add itself correctly to grub.conf, or will it crash my FC1 boot options ? Is this just a bad idea ? cheers Chris From mike at netlyncs.com Tue May 18 08:34:47 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 03:34:47 -0500 Subject: Release ? In-Reply-To: <1084864343.3683.17.camel@deimos> References: <1084857318.3322.11.camel@matrix> <200405181032.31804.manu@kromtek.com> <1084864343.3683.17.camel@deimos> Message-ID: <1084869287.7132.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 09:12 +0200, Josep Puigdemont wrote: > I think we still have to wait for the Americans to wake up before it is > officially the 18th of May 8), and so for Fedora to be officially > released. > > The release note should appear at the web site, and also to the announce > mailing list, and then I suppose the FTP servers will be unlocked. Yep, it's about 3:32am CST (GMT -6), as I just woke up to go to work :) (actually, it's about 4:32am EST for the Red Hat folks). Unless something comes up or changes, will probably be around 8-9am CST when the release is announced and the permissions granted to d/l. Just 6 or so more hours for those waiting patiently LOL -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!" From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Tue May 18 09:13:54 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:13:54 +0300 Subject: sharing /boot beween FC1 and FC2 In-Reply-To: <40A9CA49.3070806@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> References: <40A9CA49.3070806@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1084871634.2858.61.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 11:33, Chris Jones wrote: > Hi, > > I want to upgrade my system to FC2, but since it took a long time to get > things going correctly in FC1 I want to dual boot both for a while > instead of upgrading only to discover things don't work, sharing /home > and a few data partitions. I already have a /boot partition for FC1 and > I am wondering if I can just point the FC2 install to this during > installation - will it add itself correctly to grub.conf, or will it > crash my FC1 boot options ? Is this just a bad idea ? > > cheers Chris > In my experience with the test releases, this has not been straight forward. I advise you to back up /boot, do the install, copy back the old vmlinuz, System.map, config and initrd files. Then hand merge the old grub.conf with the new grub.conf. But more importantly, you must use a different root partition, i.e. "/" , or you old system will become inoperable. From zkessin at cs.brandeis.edu Tue May 18 09:22:05 2004 From: zkessin at cs.brandeis.edu (Zachary Kessin) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:22:05 +0300 (IDT) Subject: New Torrent Files In-Reply-To: <40A94C48.4000900@gulik.org> References: <40A94BA9.80505@rogers.com> <40A94C48.4000900@gulik.org> Message-ID: My bit torrent download is stuck. I got about 10% of the file downloaded, then had to quit and restart my download. Since then its not been able to connect to the tracker. I've tried starting and stoping it several times, and even on a different computer, nothing happens. And I have 2 other files downloading via bit torrent, so I know my software works, any Ideas? -- Zachary Kessin zkessin at cs.brandeis.edu +972 51 809 717 (Cell) Custom Internet application development IM: ZachKessin On Mon, 17 May 2004, Gregory Gulik wrote: > > Are you sure you have the BitTorrent ports 6881 ~ 6999 open back towards > your client??? > > I'm uploading quite a bit: > > speed: 129.9 KB/s down - 75.8 KB/s up > > > Dwaine Garden wrote: > > Does anyone know why every client downloading is not uploading? Every > > client is at 0B/s, including myself. > > -- > Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ > greg @ gulik.org > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk Tue May 18 09:26:13 2004 From: jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:26:13 +0100 Subject: sharing /boot beween FC1 and FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084871634.2858.61.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <40A9CA49.3070806@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> <1084871634.2858.61.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <40A9D6B5.4090104@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> shmuel siegel wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 11:33, Chris Jones wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I want to upgrade my system to FC2, but since it took a long time to get >>things going correctly in FC1 I want to dual boot both for a while >>instead of upgrading only to discover things don't work, sharing /home >>and a few data partitions. I already have a /boot partition for FC1 and >>I am wondering if I can just point the FC2 install to this during >>installation - will it add itself correctly to grub.conf, or will it >>crash my FC1 boot options ? Is this just a bad idea ? >> >>cheers Chris >> > > In my experience with the test releases, this has not been straight > forward. I advise you to back up /boot, do the install, copy back the > old vmlinuz, System.map, config and initrd files. Then hand merge the > old grub.conf with the new grub.conf. > But more importantly, you must use a different root partition, i.e. "/" > , or you old system will become inoperable. Sure, backing up /boot before is definitely a good idea and I was planning on doing that. Also I was planning to install FC2 into its own root partition, so "/" for FC1 and FC2 are completely seperate. I can then share the /home partition plus a few others I have for data files. So I guess in principle this should work, but I probably will have to rebuild /boot by hand afterwards to get everything working.. cheers Chris From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Tue May 18 09:37:04 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:37:04 +0200 Subject: sharing /boot beween FC1 and FC2 In-Reply-To: <40A9CA49.3070806@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> References: <40A9CA49.3070806@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1084873024.5889.61.camel@littlePiet> Am Di, den 18.05.2004 schrieb Chris Jones um 10:33: > I want to upgrade my system to FC2, but since it took a long time to get > things going correctly in FC1 I want to dual boot both for a while > instead of upgrading only to discover things don't work, sharing /home > and a few data partitions. I already have a /boot partition for FC1 I did so during the test phase. Installing FC2 you can point /boot to your existing boot partitions. You can share /home and others, but you must have separate / partition including all the subdirs beside /home, /opt /usr/local and some special subdirs of /var. There may be some incompatiblilities in the gnome configuration files (due to the newer gnome version). You should use a different user name (so a new home dir is used, but with the same UID so you can access the files in your current home) or some sort of multi distri installation. Before installing you *should* safe your existing /boot/grub/grub.conf, because the installation program will not add the new entries to the existing file, but replace it (but usually it makes a backup as grub.conf.rpmold or something alike). You have to transfer the entries for FC1 manually to the new grub.conf You should check for symbolic links vmlinuz, initrd and so on in /boot and delete them it they exist and correct the current grub.conf file accordingly (but if I remember correctly the newer grub.conf entries do no longer use symbolic links) Peter From fedora-test at cemery.org.uk Tue May 18 09:44:16 2004 From: fedora-test at cemery.org.uk (Craig Emery) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:44:16 +0100 Subject: Read-only file system not actually read-only? Message-ID: <40A9DAF0.3060704@cemery.org.uk> I'm running FC2T3 and am trying to build courier-imap as an RPM. I've gotten to the position that I can't delete the BUILD/courier-imap-3.... directory. The error is: rm: cannot remove `/home/cemery/rpm/BUILD/courier-imap-3.0.3': Read-only file system This is what mount (1) says: /dev/md2 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /sys type sysfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) /dev/md0 on /boot type ext3 (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) /dev/md6 on /home type ext3 (rw) /dev/md4 on /tmp type ext3 (rw) /dev/md3 on /usr type ext3 (rw) /dev/md5 on /var type ext3 (rw) sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) So you can see that everything is mounted rw, though all my partitions are RAID1 ones. Running lsof doesn't show any busy files in that directory, so that's not it. Any ideas? TIA Craig. From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Tue May 18 10:08:16 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:08:16 +0300 Subject: sharing /boot beween FC1 and FC2 In-Reply-To: <40A9D6B5.4090104@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> References: <40A9CA49.3070806@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> <1084871634.2858.61.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <40A9D6B5.4090104@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1084874895.2858.70.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 12:26, Chris Jones wrote: > shmuel siegel wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 11:33, Chris Jones wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I want to upgrade my system to FC2, but since it took a long time to get > >>things going correctly in FC1 I want to dual boot both for a while > >>instead of upgrading only to discover things don't work, sharing /home > >>and a few data partitions. I already have a /boot partition for FC1 and > >>I am wondering if I can just point the FC2 install to this during > >>installation - will it add itself correctly to grub.conf, or will it > >>crash my FC1 boot options ? Is this just a bad idea ? > >> > >>cheers Chris > >> > > > > In my experience with the test releases, this has not been straight > > forward. I advise you to back up /boot, do the install, copy back the > > old vmlinuz, System.map, config and initrd files. Then hand merge the > > old grub.conf with the new grub.conf. > > But more importantly, you must use a different root partition, i.e. "/" > > , or you old system will become inoperable. > > Sure, backing up /boot before is definitely a good idea and I was > planning on doing that. Also I was planning to install FC2 into its own > root partition, so "/" for FC1 and FC2 are completely seperate. I can > then share the /home partition plus a few others I have for data files. > > So I guess in principle this should work, but I probably will have to > rebuild /boot by hand afterwards to get everything working.. > > cheers Chris > reading craig's reply, I realized that I forgot to mention two things. When I said you need a different / partition, I was mentally including all of the system partitions var,etc,lib,bin and any others besides home and any data partition that you might have. Also, to share access rights you need to set up Identical UID's and GID's on the two systems. On the plus side, this is how I actually run. I have FC1 and FC2 on the same machine but I decided to use a different /boot also and I just modify grub.conf of fc2 whenever the kernel of fc1 changes. I didn't trust the test releases to play nice with a shared /boot. From gt at pearldoc.com Tue May 18 10:33:22 2004 From: gt at pearldoc.com (Geert Theys) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:33:22 +0200 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> Message-ID: <40A9E672.4060002@pearldoc.com> Making a Linux boot disk >Most folks ignore that operating system installation procedure where it is >asked if a boot disk (emergency disk) should be made. > >While this boot disk is important in Windows operating systems, it is even >more important in Linux, especially in a dual-boot system, where Windows >and Linux exist together. Even if you boot using a bootloader existing on >a system hard-drive, you should keep an up to date boot disk handy. If the >standard boot process goes awry, toss the boot disk in, reboot, and then >you can get in to repair the problem. > > > Mhh and if you don't have a diskdrive ? Maybe you should explain howto make a bootable CD ;) From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Tue May 18 11:37:56 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:37:56 -0400 Subject: New Torrent Files In-Reply-To: <40A94C48.4000900@gulik.org> References: <40A94BA9.80505@rogers.com> <40A94C48.4000900@gulik.org> Message-ID: <40A9F594.7050100@rogers.com> Gregory Gulik wrote: > > Are you sure you have the BitTorrent ports 6881 ~ 6999 open back > towards your client??? > > I'm uploading quite a bit: > > speed: 129.9 KB/s down - 75.8 KB/s up > > yep... just checked. All the ports are opened. If I torrent any other file from another server. it works just fine. Dwaine. From mike at bristolreccc.co.uk Tue May 18 11:56:34 2004 From: mike at bristolreccc.co.uk (mike) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:56:34 +0100 Subject: [FC2T3] Sound card failure CS4236B In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B52EA@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C180B52EA@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <1084881394.1850.7.camel@datacontrol> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 22:53 +0300, Fred New wrote: > On Wed 5/5/2004 7:01 PM, mike wrote: > > >> On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 15:54 +0300, Fred New wrote: > >> > >> I have had bug > >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115885 open for a > >> while for my onboard ISAPnP CS4235. It doesn't look like the kernel and > >> kudzu have ISAPnP working yet. I gave up and installed an Ensoniq 1371 > >> that was lying around the office. > >> > >> Fred > >> > > > >I've got one of these at home - no probs > > > >Have you tried mod-probing the driver ie: > > > >modprobe snd-cs4236 > > Well, I hadn't tried it lately, but an attempt just now gave the usual message: > # modprobe snd-cs4236 > FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.350/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): No such device > > (kernel-2.6.5-1.350) > > This worked under FC1 using OSS, but I never got it working under ALSA. But then, I never tried the ALSA packages from CCRMA Planet, either. Maybe there's a parameter I don't know how to set. I would be interested in hearing how you got yours to work. > > Fred > -- If you are still having problems this is my setup /etc/modprobe.conf just has alias sound snd-cs4236 doing modprobe sound brings it up to get it to come up automatically on boot I edited /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, found the following section if LC_ALL=C fgrep -q "options sound dmabuf=1" /etc/modules.conf 2>/dev/null ; then alias=`/sbin/modprobe -c | awk '/^alias sound / { print $3 }'` if [ -n "$alias" -a "$alias" != "off" ]; then action $"Loading sound module ($alias): " modprobe sound fi alias=`/sbin/modprobe -c | awk '/^alias sound-slot-0 / { print $3 }'` if [ -n "$alias" -a "$alias" != "off" ]; then action $"Loading sound module ($alias): " modprobe sound-slot-0 fi fi and deleted the top line ie if LC_ALL=C fgrep -q "options sound dmabuf=1" /etc/modules.conf 2>/dev/null ; then and the closing if and finally put alsactl restore in rc.local not totally elegant but it works Have you checked whether something else is getting initialised and getting in the way (check what aliases you have in /etc/modprobe.conf) > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From usdanskys at rocketmail.com Tue May 18 12:01:37 2004 From: usdanskys at rocketmail.com (Steven Usdansky) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:01:37 -0500 Subject: sharing /boot beween FC1 and FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040517212424.EFB2373B84@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040517212424.EFB2373B84@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040518070137.45f4e111@Microcline> I've got several FC1 and FC2-test installs (along with an old RH9) on my system, and here's how I install a new version. I use the same boot and home partitions for all installs, but don't install a boot loader. Everything else goes into the new root partition. When I do this, the new kernel and its associated files are properly installed, and/boot/grub/grub.conf is properly updated. The only catch is to ensure that my users have the same uids and gids on all systems -- Roick Doctor From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue May 18 13:04:09 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:04:09 -0400 Subject: screen contamination in fc2t3 after blamker has activated Message-ID: <200405180904.09735.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings; Is it normal for the screen to become a large grey pattern after the blanker has kicked in (to a black screen) and either the keyboard is touched, or the mouse moved? If I have a terminal open, when the screen unblanks, I have just the cli line of the terminal showing in a sea of grey. In order to get a screen redraw, I have to ctl-d the terminal, at which point the whole screen is redrawn and restored. The card is a riva128 equipt card, but only 4 megs of video dram on it. Is there some option I need to check/set in whatever the XF86Config file is now called? Its an El-cheapo I inherited :( -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From mab at darlug.org Tue May 18 13:50:55 2004 From: mab at darlug.org (Mark Bradbury) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:20:55 +0930 Subject: When IS the 18th of may Message-ID: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> Fedora released 18th of may. Just when is that? In my time zone I have 45 minutes to go before its the 19th of may and I still get Forbidden at http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/ maybe the release dates should be set at GMT or something just checked http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ and its Tue 9:39 AM in New York and Tue 6:39 AM in Los Angeles so it is the 18th in the USA. Oh well bed time for me as its 11:20 pm on the 18th of may From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 18 13:54:41 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:54:41 -0400 Subject: When IS the 18th of may In-Reply-To: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> References: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> Message-ID: <604aa79104051806547db5e883@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 18 May 2004 23:20:55 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > Fedora released 18th of may. > > Just when is that? oh sorry... the schedule didn't say...but its may 18th 2005. Sorry for the confusion. -jef"waiting for the hungover Red Hat employee to get a cup of coffee and flip the switch"spaleta From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Tue May 18 13:55:05 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:55:05 -0400 Subject: When IS the 18th of may In-Reply-To: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> References: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> Message-ID: <1084888505.11604.0.camel@binkley> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 23:20 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > Fedora released 18th of may. > > Just when is that? In my time zone I have 45 minutes to go before its > the 19th of may and I still get Forbidden at > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/ > > maybe the release dates should be set at GMT or something > > just checked http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ and its > Tue 9:39 AM in New York and Tue 6:39 AM in Los Angeles so it is the 18th > in the USA. > > Oh well bed time for me as its 11:20 pm on the 18th of may > the release date has been posted as: may 18th, 2004, 10:00AM EDT - that's US Eastern Daylight Time. -sv From cra at WPI.EDU Tue May 18 13:55:27 2004 From: cra at WPI.EDU (Charles R. Anderson) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:55:27 -0400 Subject: When IS the 18th of may In-Reply-To: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> References: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> Message-ID: <20040518135527.GA10102@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 11:20:55PM +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > Fedora released 18th of may. > Just when is that? Red Hat almost always releases at 10:00 EST/EDT (UTC-4/UTC-5). That is in about 5 minutes from now. From ron.flory at adtran.com Tue May 18 14:03:11 2004 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (Ron Flory) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:03:11 -0500 Subject: FC2T3 kernel 'make menuconfig' In-Reply-To: References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A81A97.2050809@ceimaine.org> Message-ID: <40AA179F.3080905@adtran.com> OK, I know FC2T3 is obsolete (or will be in minutes), but... running 'make menuconfig' on a local vcon ov my Compac Laptop results in very confused and nearly unreadable output. Running the same on a remote ssh or telnet session into the machine looks fine. perhaps this is a ncurses or vcon/getty issue? Also, the FC2T3 installer always unexpectedly aborts during Anaconda during installation of the RPMs on my Asus P2B-DS (dual PIII-500, SMP, NVidia chipset) machine for both graphical and text modes. FC1 installs alright tho- ron From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Tue May 18 14:13:04 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:13:04 +0300 Subject: stop the questions on release time please Message-ID: <1084889584.12799.9.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Please stop the questions on release time, it's only noise. The schedule is on fedora.redhat.com, and you can wait for the announcement email same or next day. If you are so impatient, get latest TEST version and upgrade by rawhide, but stop asking about it or hitting Reload every 1 min on the mirrors :) -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue May 18 14:05:30 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:05:30 -0400 Subject: FC2T3 kernel 'make menuconfig' In-Reply-To: <40AA179F.3080905@adtran.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A81A97.2050809@ceimaine.org> <40AA179F.3080905@adtran.com> Message-ID: <20040518140530.GA11541@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 09:03:11AM -0500, Ron Flory wrote: > running 'make menuconfig' on a local vcon ov my Compac Laptop > results in very confused and nearly unreadable output. Running > the same on a remote ssh or telnet session into the machine > looks fine. What if you do "LANG=C make menuconfig"? -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From bking at optusnet.com.au Tue May 18 14:07:10 2004 From: bking at optusnet.com.au (Brad) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:07:10 +1000 (EST) Subject: When IS the 18th of may In-Reply-To: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> References: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 May 2004, Mark Bradbury wrote: > Fedora released 18th of may. > > Just when is that? In my time zone I have 45 minutes to go before its > the 19th of may and I still get Forbidden at > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/ > > maybe the release dates should be set at GMT or something > > just checked http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ and its > Tue 9:39 AM in New York and Tue 6:39 AM in Los Angeles so it is the 18th > in the USA. > > Oh well bed time for me as its 11:20 pm on the 18th of may Looks like its open now! Brad From whb at ceimaine.org Tue May 18 14:07:59 2004 From: whb at ceimaine.org (Will Backman) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:07:59 -0400 Subject: Fedora website updated to FC2 Message-ID: <1084889278.5315.11.camel@d1ntpm41> Yeah! Thanks for all the hard work. I guess this list is now for those testing FC3? From yarchyk at mail.ru Tue May 18 13:58:56 2004 From: yarchyk at mail.ru (Yarchyk:-)) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:58:56 -0400 Subject: When IS the 18th of may In-Reply-To: References: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> Message-ID: <40AA16A0.7060807@mail.ru> Brad wrote: > > Looks like its open now! > > Brad You are right, I've just started to download via torrent! Y. From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 18 14:19:52 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:19:52 -0400 Subject: Fedora website updated to FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084889278.5315.11.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <1084889278.5315.11.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <200405181019.52772.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Pointer to torrent, please? From yarchyk at mail.ru Tue May 18 14:11:09 2004 From: yarchyk at mail.ru (Yarchyk:-)) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:11:09 -0400 Subject: Fedora website updated to FC2 In-Reply-To: <200405181019.52772.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <1084889278.5315.11.camel@d1ntpm41> <200405181019.52772.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <40AA197D.2080904@mail.ru> Neal Becker wrote: >Pointer to torrent, please? > > > > It works now: http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ Y. From mab at darlug.org Tue May 18 14:35:38 2004 From: mab at darlug.org (Mark Bradbury) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:05:38 +0930 Subject: When IS the 18th of may In-Reply-To: <1084888505.11604.0.camel@binkley> References: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> <1084888505.11604.0.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1084890938.8739.6.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> Fooled ya . I didn't go to bed, even thou it is now the 19th of may :) Now I know the redhat release time I learnt somthing I wasn't too worried thou as I had the ISO's via bittorent 2 days ago I was more about release dates and time zones, You have informed me thank you On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 09:55 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 23:20 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > Fedora released 18th of may. > > > > Just when is that? In my time zone I have 45 minutes to go before its > > the 19th of may and I still get Forbidden at > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/ > > > > maybe the release dates should be set at GMT or something > > > > just checked http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ and its > > Tue 9:39 AM in New York and Tue 6:39 AM in Los Angeles so it is the 18th > > in the USA. > > > > Oh well bed time for me as its 11:20 pm on the 18th of may > > > > the release date has been posted as: > may 18th, 2004, 10:00AM EDT - that's US Eastern Daylight Time. > > -sv > > From anielsen at diku.dk Tue May 18 14:40:40 2004 From: anielsen at diku.dk (Anders Nielsen) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:40:40 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 updates - can't find headers Message-ID: <1084891240.3017.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Looks like the headers for the updates aren't on-line. This prevents the default configuration of yum from working. # yum list updates Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Released Updates retrygrab() failed for: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/2/i386/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/2/i386/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found From mab at darlug.org Tue May 18 14:44:09 2004 From: mab at darlug.org (Mark Bradbury) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:14:09 +0930 Subject: Fedora Core 2 updates - can't find headers In-Reply-To: <1084891240.3017.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084891240.3017.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1084891449.8739.8.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> Yep the directory doesn't exits I'm sure they will fix it soon On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 16:40 +0200, Anders Nielsen wrote: > Looks like the headers for the updates aren't on-line. This prevents the > default configuration of yum from working. > > # yum list updates > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Released Updates > retrygrab() failed for: > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/2/i386/headers/header.info > Executing failover method > failover: out of servers to try > Error getting file > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/2/i386/headers/header.info > [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > > > From fa.ribeiro at gmx.net Tue May 18 14:55:11 2004 From: fa.ribeiro at gmx.net (Fernando Ribeiro) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:55:11 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Fedora core 2 mirrors Message-ID: <5289.1084892111@www40.gmx.net> hi all, you can check your nearest/updated mirror here: http://www.acert.pt/~fribeiro/mirrorwatch/?id=4 regards! fr -- "Sie haben neue Mails!" - Die GMX Toolbar informiert Sie beim Surfen! Jetzt aktivieren unter http://www.gmx.net/info From lowen at pari.edu Tue May 18 14:56:40 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:56:40 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405181056.40650.lowen@pari.edu> On Monday 17 May 2004 16:34, Michael Hatzel wrote: > As far as I know, XP has never been supported using GRUBs chainloader +1 > directive. What I have always had to do is install grub on the first block > of boot, use dd to pull the first block of my /boot partition to a file > such as Linux.bin You know, I've been watching this whole thread with a certain amusement. I have dual-booted into various Windows flavors with impunity using GRUB in MBR for a long time now. I have three boxes running XP. One is Home and two are Pro. My grub.conf from this WinXP Pro notebook (Dell Inspiron 600m) (NOTE: The 600m installation was kindof funky, but FC2T2 installed fine in text mode (graphical was busted on the ATI M9 on this box), and was a scratch install: I reinstalled XP into a small partition, then installed FC2T2): # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,2) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda6 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.358) root (hd0,2) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.358.img title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.332) root (hd0,2) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.332 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.332.img title Other rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1 It Just Works. Partition info: Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 5 40131 de Dell Utility /dev/hda2 * 6 1049 8385930 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda3 1050 1065 128520 83 Linux /dev/hda4 1066 7296 50050507+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 1066 2370 10482381 83 Linux /dev/hda6 2371 3135 6144831 83 Linux /dev/hda7 3136 3266 1052226 82 Linux swap /dev/hda8 3267 5877 20972826 b W95 FAT32 My home (not Home) box has Win2k and WinXP Pro both installed, as well as FC1 and WBEL 3. All four boot fine, with GRUB in MBR. GRUB only shows three OS entries, though (I also have memtest there, but that's not an OS): FC, WBEL, and Windows. The chainload goes to XP's boot loader, from which I choose WinXP or Win2k. It's a Matsonic motherboard with an Athlon XP 1700 installed (this particular mb, for those interested, is kindof unusual in that it can have either SDR SDRAM _OR_ DDR SDRAM installed, just not at the same time. The mother of all jumper blocks selects between; there's 36 or 72 jumpers to be moved to do so. I think it's an 8137+ mb.). Oh, and it has a 200GB Maxtor drive. Updating to FC2 at some point in the near future. Oh, It Just Works. The third machine is an older Sony notebook with XP Home. It also has FC1 loaded; GRUB in MBR, and It Just Works. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From mab at darlug.org Tue May 18 15:02:19 2004 From: mab at darlug.org (Mark Bradbury) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:32:19 +0930 Subject: When IS the 18th of may In-Reply-To: <1084888505.11604.0.camel@binkley> References: <1084888255.8516.13.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> <1084888505.11604.0.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1084892539.8739.11.camel@pluto.ntu.edu.au> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/2/i386/headers/ is not there so yum wont work. But I'm sure they are on it ;-) On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 09:55 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 23:20 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > Fedora released 18th of may. > > > > Just when is that? In my time zone I have 45 minutes to go before its > > the 19th of may and I still get Forbidden at > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/ > > > > maybe the release dates should be set at GMT or something > > > > just checked http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ and its > > Tue 9:39 AM in New York and Tue 6:39 AM in Los Angeles so it is the 18th > > in the USA. > > > > Oh well bed time for me as its 11:20 pm on the 18th of may > > > > the release date has been posted as: > may 18th, 2004, 10:00AM EDT - that's US Eastern Daylight Time. > > -sv > > From lowen at pari.edu Tue May 18 15:12:23 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:12:23 -0400 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517201509.GA2699@mtranch.mtranch.com> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A8B994.6030107@margo.bijoux.nom.br> <20040517201509.GA2699@mtranch.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <200405181112.23311.lowen@pari.edu> On Monday 17 May 2004 16:15, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Re-reading the comments in Bugzilla, I see a lot of heat, but very little > light. In particular, I find no mention of MB mfg and BIOS mfg and > version, which means we're missing potentially significant info. > Here's what I'd suggest. Would someone with expertise in this area come up > with a procedure to follow, beginning with a raw disk? Install Windows or > Linux first? Partition setup, .... etc. Follow this with a set of > questions to be answered, as to hardware, BIOS, etc. Perhaps the critical > factors can be discovered. I'll post my info from my one scratch hard drive install (the 200GB home machine). I did not scratch my notebooks' drives; I just used XP's installer to repartition it, in both cases. Installed XP into a 7-8GB partition, then installed Fedora (Core1 on the old notebook, Core2 Test2 on the new one). GRUB in MBR in all cases; It Just Worked. Actually, the Sony install was a little more complicated, since I did a Ghost upgrade from the original 30GB drive to a 40GB drive, and had to rewrite GRUB when I did so. >From a new zeroed 200GB Maxtor, I first installed Win2k into a 4GB partition. I then installed XP into its own 4GB partition. I then installed WBEL3 using custom partitioning into an 8GB / partition, with a 100MB /boot. I then installed FC1 into its own 8GB / partition, with a separate 100MB /boot. I then mounted the WBEL3 boot under FC1 and synchronized both grun.conf files. FC1 and WBEL3 share swap. Once that was all working, I created my 60GB /home and my 100+GB FAT32 data exchange partition (shows as G: in windows, and ~/data on the FC1 and WBEL3 side (mounting with options for ownership, etc). It Just Worked. Matsonic 8137+ mb with latest BIOS, I think. Using motherboard ATA100 controller. The notebooks are different beasts: the 600m has the Centrino chipset (wireless, Pentium-M etc). The Sony FXA-49 has a KT133, I believe, and an Athlon4 mobile CPU. It has the latest Sony BIOS. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From gstool at earthlink.net Tue May 18 15:16:46 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:16:46 -0500 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <200405181056.40650.lowen@pari.edu> References: <200405181056.40650.lowen@pari.edu> Message-ID: <40AA28DE.8000103@earthlink.net> Lucky You. Until FC3T3 I could have said the same thing. Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday 17 May 2004 16:34, Michael Hatzel wrote: > >>As far as I know, XP has never been supported using GRUBs chainloader +1 >>directive. What I have always had to do is install grub on the first block >>of boot, use dd to pull the first block of my /boot partition to a file >>such as Linux.bin > > > You know, I've been watching this whole thread with a certain amusement. I > have dual-booted into various Windows flavors with impunity using GRUB in MBR > for a long time now. > > I have three boxes running XP. One is Home and two are Pro. My grub.conf > from this WinXP Pro notebook (Dell Inspiron 600m) (NOTE: The 600m > installation was kindof funky, but FC2T2 installed fine in text mode > (graphical was busted on the ATI M9 on this box), and was a scratch install: > I reinstalled XP into a small partition, then installed FC2T2): > # grub.conf generated by anaconda > # > # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file > # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that > # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. > # root (hd0,2) > # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda6 > # initrd /initrd-version.img > #boot=/dev/hda > default=0 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.358) > root (hd0,2) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.358.img > title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.332) > root (hd0,2) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.332 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.332.img > title Other > rootnoverify (hd0,1) > chainloader +1 > > It Just Works. Partition info: > Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 1 5 40131 de Dell Utility > /dev/hda2 * 6 1049 8385930 7 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/hda3 1050 1065 128520 83 Linux > /dev/hda4 1066 7296 50050507+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/hda5 1066 2370 10482381 83 Linux > /dev/hda6 2371 3135 6144831 83 Linux > /dev/hda7 3136 3266 1052226 82 Linux swap > /dev/hda8 3267 5877 20972826 b W95 FAT32 > > > My home (not Home) box has Win2k and WinXP Pro both installed, as well as FC1 > and WBEL 3. All four boot fine, with GRUB in MBR. GRUB only shows three OS > entries, though (I also have memtest there, but that's not an OS): FC, WBEL, > and Windows. The chainload goes to XP's boot loader, from which I choose > WinXP or Win2k. It's a Matsonic motherboard with an Athlon XP 1700 installed > (this particular mb, for those interested, is kindof unusual in that it can > have either SDR SDRAM _OR_ DDR SDRAM installed, just not at the same time. > The mother of all jumper blocks selects between; there's 36 or 72 jumpers to > be moved to do so. I think it's an 8137+ mb.). Oh, and it has a 200GB > Maxtor drive. Updating to FC2 at some point in the near future. > > Oh, It Just Works. > > The third machine is an older Sony notebook with XP Home. It also has FC1 > loaded; GRUB in MBR, and It Just Works. From williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co Tue May 18 15:18:29 2004 From: williama_lovaton at coomeva.com.co (William Lovaton) Date: 18 May 2004 10:18:29 -0500 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <20040517221850.GA25693@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040517221850.GA25693@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084893509.4435.1146.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Alan, El lun, 17-05-2004 a las 17:18, Alan Cox escribi?: > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 02:19:41PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > > I am afraid that it is a bad assumption to think that 1Gb will improve > > transfer speeds just like that. Maybe there is some deeper > > configuration / tuning left to be done after installing the new card. > > Make sure you get a card that is 66Mhz and/or 64bit if your PCI busses > can take it, and if not definitely that its on its own bus. PCI 32/33Mhz > is too slow to make best use of gigabit. > > On desktop boxes the PCI bus typically ends up a bottleneck. Good servers > tend to work out better - keep the disk and gige on different pci busses > etc lspci -v shows this: 02:05.0 PCI Hot-plug controller: Compaq Computer Corporation PCI Hotplug Controller (rev 12) Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device a2f8 Flags: 66Mhz, medium devsel, IRQ 66 Memory at f7bf0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [58] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- I can see that it is 66MHz but I'm not sure about the 32 (or 64) bit part. I guess that gigabit will be an improvement here. -William From k at dicec.cl Tue May 18 15:33:48 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:33:48 -0400 Subject: Gigabit ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <20040517235641.GA2487@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084813882.4435.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1084821581.4438.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040517221850.GA25693@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084835927.4433.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040517235641.GA2487@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084894428.4272.10.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 19:56, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 06:18:47PM -0500, William Lovaton wrote: > > > On desktop boxes the PCI bus typically ends up a bottleneck. Good servers > > > tend to work out better - keep the disk and gige on different pci busses > > > etc > > > > Well, this server uses SCSI, so I guess there is no problem. Right? > > Wrong. The SCSI has to be attached somewhere. If its a good server > board (as I suspect all quad boards are) it should have the scsi one its > own bus or sharing only with some slots - see the docs I guess. > many "real" servers have multiple PCI buses, like one PCI-X133 for the disk array controller for it's own... another for the HBA or SCSI adapter, and some PCI64-66mhz slots for other components... it really depends where you put the GIGE, if the card can use their potencial... check if the slot used is a PCI-X, PCI64, PCI32 and of course in which speed is running.. 133, 66 or 33 mhz... if you put a GIGE in a pci32-33mhz the card should work but i doubt that it will work at a reasonable speed... and even if it runs at full speed, the bus will be busy for all the other devices... another X in the equation is the use of bus mastering... > > I was wondering about CPU consumption. Do you think that 4x 550MHz CPUs > > are too slow for a GIGE?? > > Doing what ? vmstat may give you some idea on cpu/disk usage and how much > the cpus are idle -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From lowen at pari.edu Tue May 18 15:41:05 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:41:05 -0400 Subject: please stop... In-Reply-To: <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> References: <40A9298F.5050200@moongroup.com> <1084829826.1518.59.camel@duergar> <40A931C5.3090707@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <200405181141.05816.lowen@pari.edu> On Monday 17 May 2004 17:42, Chuck Mead wrote: > Nope. They absolutely can run it and if they're going to then they ought > to just run it and be done. What made Fedora essential? Nothing... if > windows is essential then run it and to hell with Fedora... > 'sides... it's my suspicion that the "essential software" they're all > geeked up about is some kind of game. Uh, you're very wrong. Here, we need dual boot for software that will not run under the various emulators for various reasons (all having to do with radio and optical astronomy, mostly due to proprietary hardware, (and no games allowed!)), but we need the Linux side for other essential radio and optical astronomy programs (such as the massive AIPS++ and IRAF suites, along with Xephem and others) that won't run under Cygwin (Xephem might, but IRAF and AIPS++ are pigs!). So I literally do have users who will gather data from an instrument (and a 26 meter radio telescope is no toy, weighing in at 300,000 pounds, not counting the 250 cubic yard foundation!) in WinXP, then reboot into Linux to do data reduction. The data gathering being done is with research-grade ADCs that have no Linux drivers. But these guys want to use AIPS++ to do the deconvolving. Now, how would you solve that situation, Mr. Mead? Dual boot is the solution for that serious research-grade issue, and is something I must deal with daily. More computers is not the answer, since we are a non-profit and must maximize available resources (otherwise I would buy IDL and scrap IRAF: but I would still have to use AIPS++ for NRAO compatibility, but then I would have a nice cluster to run that deconvolving beast. But not on the present tight budget.) So I for one am very interested in seeing this issue solved, even though I cannot personally reproduce it (since dual-boot is working well for our Dell Dimension 4500's, but they are running RHL9 and WinXP, and is working for my personal workstations as well, running both FC1 and FC2). Just because you don't want to hear it doesn't mean everybody else has to shut up. Killfile those you don't want to hear, in the Grand Old Usenet Tradition. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue May 18 15:42:34 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora website updated to FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084889278.5315.11.camel@d1ntpm41> References: <1084889278.5315.11.camel@d1ntpm41> Message-ID: <4033.12.29.16.103.1084894954.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Will Backman said: > Yeah! > Thanks for all the hard work. > I guess this list is now for those testing FC3? I think it is safe to say there will be updates-testing packages to discuss before any FC3 Test releases. -- William Hooper From carles at unlimitedmail.org Tue May 18 15:48:27 2004 From: carles at unlimitedmail.org (Carles Xavier Munyoz =?iso-8859-15?q?Bald=F3?=) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:48:27 +0200 Subject: htree Message-ID: <200405181748.27157.carles@unlimitedmail.org> Hi, Is the htree directory index available in Fedora Core 2 release ? Is it enabled by default in any new ext3 filesystem ? Any bug reported about htree and Fedora Core 2 ? Greetings. --- Carles Xavier Munyoz Bald? carles at unlimitedmail.org http://www.unlimitedmail.net/ --- From cyberbear at trailnet.com Tue May 18 15:58:19 2004 From: cyberbear at trailnet.com (Ron Bellomo) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:58:19 -0600 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> Message-ID: <1084895899.3066.6.camel@fedora> On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 07:27, Law Horne wrote: > Ok I posted this A little while ago. But since everyone was still > arguing about this issue no one seem to notice. So I do not know if it > helps or not. SO I'M REPOSTING it. > > > > Has no one simply tried this? > > > > For Windows XP, boot from the install CD and enter the Recovery > > Console. > > Then issue the command: > > Code: > > bootcfg /rebuild > > > > > > This fixes the bootloader for windows xp. But I do not know if it will > > work in this situation. > > I cannot test this as I do not have this problem. > > > > > > Law > > Let me know if it works or not. I hope it helps. > > Law > > This did *NOT* fix anything on my system. All of the repair options I tried with WinXP 'seemed' to work properly. I tried Fixboot, fixmbr, bootcfg, and even fdisk /mbr... But when trying to boot back into XP it still could not find the OS. BTW, this problem box has two 120GB hdd's. This box I am using now has two 40GB drives, and has not exhibited the problem. Dual booting with Win XP has worked fine. Does the drive size have anything to do with this? Luckily, I was of a mind to go strictly linux on that box anyway. Bye-bye XP! Ron From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Tue May 18 16:05:09 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:05:09 -0400 Subject: updating to Fedora 2 official release via RAWHIDE In-Reply-To: <1084857318.3322.11.camel@matrix> References: <1084857318.3322.11.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1084896308.1881.631.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 01:15, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Hi, > > I have been using Fedora rawhide to stay updated. > I presume that convergence to Fedora Core 2 is complete: > ============================================================== > [williams at matrix etc]$ more /etc/redhat-release > Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) > ============================================================== > > =========== /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources ========================== > yum fedora-core-rawhide \ > http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development/i386 > ================================================================== > > > Will there be a repository for only Fedora 2 updates and security > patches? Or is there only RAWHIDE? There will be FC2 updates. > Please send the recommended entry for my above "sources" file. See /etc/yum.conf.rpmnew and configure your closest mirror. > > For new packages that exist in Fedora 2 that I don't already have on my > system, is there a way to have up2date seek these out and ppprovide me > with the option to install? If not, can yum do this? yum list available > > PS: What does Tettnang mean? See recent "Tettnang???" thread. Phil From alan at redhat.com Tue May 18 16:17:07 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:17:07 -0400 Subject: screen contamination in fc2t3 after blamker has activated In-Reply-To: <200405180904.09735.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200405180904.09735.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040518161707.GA29472@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 09:04:09AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Is it normal for the screen to become a large grey pattern after the > blanker has kicked in (to a black screen) and either the keyboard is > touched, or the mouse moved? That shows up on some cards where APM or the video power management is smart enough to power down the video ram in idle mode. Its really an X bug - X knows about apm events so could handle it From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Tue May 18 17:00:35 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:00:35 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <200405181056.40650.lowen@pari.edu> References: <200405181056.40650.lowen@pari.edu> Message-ID: <1084899634.1881.653.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 10:56, Lamar Owen wrote: ...snip... > You know, I've been watching this whole thread with a certain amusement. I > have dual-booted into various Windows flavors with impunity using GRUB in MBR > for a long time now. Me too, but... > > ...snip... Oh, and it has a 200GB > Maxtor drive. Updating to FC2 at some point in the near future. And that's where you may start to run into the problems that started with FC2T3 and beyond dual-boot installs/upgrades, but only with some hardware configurations. Expect we have not heard the last of these issues. Please post success/failure when you try the update. I'm going to try to upgrade my FC1/XP notebook as soon as the torrent finishes supplying me with all the ISOs (just finished a full backup). Phil From greg-miller at shaw.ca Tue May 18 16:52:55 2004 From: greg-miller at shaw.ca (Greg Miller) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:52:55 -0600 Subject: Test 3 & Sata, Radeon 9200 Message-ID: <1084899175.9988.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have recently upgraded from FC1 x86_64 to FC2 test 3. FC2 recognizes the drives differently. On FC1 my sata drive was sdaX and on FC2 it is hdeX. The install would quit when it could not find the swap space on sda9. I was able to install by editing my fstab so that my swap space was /dev/hde9. There was some sort of error that it asked me to save to disk as well. I don't know what to do with it. My video card is a Radeon 9200 and for some reason my resolution has a maximum of 800x600 now. Mozilla 1.6 did not install because of conflict with 1.4. Other than that FC2 looks great. Greg Miller From dh at iucr.org Tue May 18 17:30:16 2004 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:30:16 +0100 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200405181830.16468.dh@iucr.org> On Monday 17 May 2004 10:53, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2004 04:09:04 -0500 > > James Jensen wrote: > > >Nobody seems to think it makes Windows XP look bad. I'm sure they'll > > >be just as understanding about FC2. > > > > If only that were true... the problem is that, sadly, it's still the > > Linux distros that have to prove themselves, not Microsoft. One major > > flaw in an Free system's worth half a dozen in a proprietary system. > > > > -J. Jensen > > Hi James. > > This hardly counts as a major flaw and IMHO Linux distros don't have to > prove themselves to anyone anyway. If you don't want to use Linux -- > don't. Linux provides enough value on it's own merit. No need to > convince anyone who has the least bit of doubt. Should be no skin off > your back or mine if others choose to use some other operating system. Let > them use more expensive, restrictive software if they want. This is > especially true for a hobbyist/enthusiast distribution like Fedora. > > The main point is that there is no room for whining in Fedora. Contribute > what you can. Understand that it's not a democracy. Use your freedom > to choose a different option if Fedora turns out to not be right for you. > > Cheers, > Sean. I have to say Sean that most of your post in this thread are a "whine" about people whining. regards, dave. -- Dr. David Holden. (Systems Developer) Crystallography Journals Online: Thanks in advance:- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See: UK Privacy (R.I.P) : http://www.stand.org.uk/commentary.php3 Public GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at harddata.com Tue May 18 17:24:57 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:24:57 -0600 Subject: Test 3 & Sata, Radeon 9200 In-Reply-To: <1084899175.9988.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084899175.9988.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200405181124.57109.mark@harddata.com> On May 18, 2004 10:52 am, Greg Miller wrote: > I have recently upgraded from FC1 x86_64 to FC2 test 3. > > FC2 recognizes the drives differently. On FC1 my sata drive was sdaX and > on FC2 it is hdeX. The install would quit when it could not find the > swap space on sda9. I was able to install by editing my fstab so that my > swap space was /dev/hde9. Libata uses scsi device names in 2.4 and ide device names in 2.6 > > There was some sort of error that it asked me to save to disk as well. I > don't know what to do with it. > > My video card is a Radeon 9200 and for some reason my resolution has a > maximum of 800x600 now. > This is a problem with /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Edit the file, go to the display section and uncomment the vertical refresh and horizontal sync rate lines. If they are not there add the proper ones for your monitor. > Mozilla 1.6 did not install because of conflict with 1.4. > I would just download 1.6 rpms and force the install or remove 1.4 and then install 1.6 -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From seanlkml at rogers.com Tue May 18 17:39:55 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:39:55 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <200405181830.16468.dh@iucr.org> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <40A88130.2040406@comcast.net> <20040517055329.637f7739.seanlkml@rogers.com> <200405181830.16468.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: <20040518133955.749f32c0.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:30:16 +0100 David Holden wrote: > I have to say Sean that most of your post in this thread are a "whine" about > people whining. > > regards, > LOL. Well, if even one person decides to be a more helpful and less FUD spreading member of the community next time they have a problem, it was worth it. Sounds like you won't be that one person ;o) Cheers, Sean. From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Tue May 18 17:42:51 2004 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:42:51 +0200 Subject: Will gftp be able to download the 4+GB dvd iso image? Message-ID: <1084902171.3648.5.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Hi all, First of all a big thanks to Red Hat and the community for reaching another milestone! Note: If you are using HTTP or FTP to download, some download clients cannot handle the DVD image because it is larger than 4 gigabytes. Please refer to the documentation of your download client for details. Does anyone know if gftp-2.0.14 as part of FC1 will be able to download the 4+GB dvd iso image? The mirror on ftp.surfnet.nl shows a size of 2,147,483,647 for the dvd iso. Is that normal? Thanks, Patrick From h.mayer at inode.at Tue May 18 17:42:35 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:42:35 +0200 Subject: Will gftp be able to download the 4+GB dvd iso image? In-Reply-To: <1084902171.3648.5.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> References: <1084902171.3648.5.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <40AA4B0B.6030404@inode.at> Patrick wrote: > The mirror on ftp.surfnet.nl shows a size of > 2,147,483,647 for the dvd iso. Is that normal? I think that particular iso is without the SRPM's ... but better MD5 it. Cheers, Hannes. From dh at iucr.org Tue May 18 17:47:13 2004 From: dh at iucr.org (David Holden) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:47:13 +0100 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <20040518133955.749f32c0.seanlkml@rogers.com> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <200405181830.16468.dh@iucr.org> <20040518133955.749f32c0.seanlkml@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200405181847.14003.dh@iucr.org> On Tuesday 18 May 2004 18:39, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:30:16 +0100 > > David Holden wrote: > > I have to say Sean that most of your post in this thread are a "whine" > > about people whining. > > > > regards, > > LOL. Well, if even one person decides to be a more helpful and less FUD > spreading member of the community next time they have a problem, it > was worth it. Sounds like you won't be that one person ;o) > > Cheers, > Sean. Kind of counter productive though, if people are worried about reporting problems because your going to jump on them for whining the problems won't get reported. If problems don't get reported they don't get fixed... Dave. -- Dr. David Holden. (Systems Developer) Crystallography Journals Online: Thanks in advance:- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See: UK Privacy (R.I.P) : http://www.stand.org.uk/commentary.php3 Public GPG key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------- From seanlkml at rogers.com Tue May 18 17:59:47 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:59:47 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <200405181847.14003.dh@iucr.org> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <200405181830.16468.dh@iucr.org> <20040518133955.749f32c0.seanlkml@rogers.com> <200405181847.14003.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: <20040518135947.7e00a12b.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:47:13 +0100 David Holden wrote: > On Tuesday 18 May 2004 18:39, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > > On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:30:16 +0100 > > > > David Holden wrote: > > > I have to say Sean that most of your post in this thread are a "whine" > > > about people whining. > > > > > > regards, > > > > LOL. Well, if even one person decides to be a more helpful and less FUD > > spreading member of the community next time they have a problem, it > > was worth it. Sounds like you won't be that one person ;o) > > > > Cheers, > > Sean. > > Kind of counter productive though, if people are worried about reporting > problems because your going to jump on them for whining the problems won't > get reported. If problems don't get reported they don't get fixed... > > Dave. Dave, Then they don't get fixed. If people want the problem fixed they better report it. They better keep testing and helping the developers too. And not wait until the release date to freak out that it's not fixed for them. Cheers, Sean. From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 18 18:13:40 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:13:40 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <200405181847.14003.dh@iucr.org> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <200405181830.16468.dh@iucr.org> <20040518133955.749f32c0.seanlkml@rogers.com> <200405181847.14003.dh@iucr.org> Message-ID: <604aa79104051811134b1167c@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:47:13 +0100, David Holden wrote> > Kind of counter productive though, if people are worried about reporting > problems because your going to jump on them for whining the problems won't > get reported. If problems don't get reported they don't get fixed... Let's be clear... discussion in the mailinglists don't count as "reported" What counts is bugzilla. Not to say that some types of discussion in the list isn't valuable, becuase it can be. This thread unfortunately hasn't been so valuable over all thanks to a few people who are more concerned about tone and expectations than about the technical specifics and information needed to actually solve the bug as reported. If this bug were a smoking gun, reproducible problem that developers saw on their available hardware before the release during the testing, we would have atleast a warning in the release notes about the fact that this is a known issue. Read the release notes, there are notes about known hardware issues, no one is trying to hide anything. Let's not assume developers aren't making a best effort to track down and reproduce hardware problems that are being reported. But the people reporting this problem need to be aware that if developers can not reproduce the problems on their hardware and it appears that the problem can not be traced to specific hardware situations at all among the people who are reporting in it makes it very difficult to even say the problems is a known bug without a known fix. If every reported spotty hardware problem that developers could not reproduce were to be highlighted, that would be one hell of a long set of release notes. I'm still interested in seeing if this problem exists outside the installer environment with parted or grub using the 2.6.x kernel compared to booting into a 2.4.x kernel using the same version of parted and grub. -jef"maybe linux should adopt the happy fun ball list of warnings"spaleta From guy at incentre.net Tue May 18 18:17:59 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:17:59 -0600 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <604aa79104051811134b1167c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <200405181830.16468.dh@iucr.org> <20040518133955.749f32c0.seanlkml@rogers.com> <200405181847.14003.dh@iucr.org> <604aa79104051811134b1167c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40AA5357.3050208@incentre.net> It's out now and it is what it is, so all reservations are now mute. Thank you all. Have a nice day. From dstewart at atl.lmco.com Tue May 18 18:19:18 2004 From: dstewart at atl.lmco.com (Doug Stewart) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:19:18 -0400 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40AA5357.3050208@incentre.net> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <200405181830.16468.dh@iucr.org> <20040518133955.749f32c0.seanlkml@rogers.com> <200405181847.14003.dh@iucr.org> <604aa79104051811134b1167c@mail.gmail.com> <40AA5357.3050208@incentre.net> Message-ID: <40AA53A6.10301@atl.lmco.com> Guy Fraser wrote: > It's out now and it is what it is, so all reservations are now mute. > > Thank you all. > > Have a nice day. > > I think you meant "moot". Just my Grammar Nazi Moment of the Day. -- ---------- Doug Stewart Systems Administrator/Web Applications Developer Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Labs (856)792-9844 dstewart at atl.lmco.com From antitux at antitux.net Tue May 18 18:22:15 2004 From: antitux at antitux.net (John Dee) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:22:15 -0700 Subject: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40AA53A6.10301@atl.lmco.com> References: <20040517023441.BA56473E7E@hormel.redhat.com> <200405181830.16468.dh@iucr.org> <20040518133955.749f32c0.seanlkml@rogers.com> <200405181847.14003.dh@iucr.org> <604aa79104051811134b1167c@mail.gmail.com> <40AA5357.3050208@incentre.net> <40AA53A6.10301@atl.lmco.com> Message-ID: <40AA5457.6030609@antitux.net> Doug Stewart wrote: > Guy Fraser wrote: > >> It's out now and it is what it is, so all reservations are now mute. >> >> Thank you all. >> >> Have a nice day. >> >> > > I think you meant "moot". > > Just my Grammar Nazi Moment of the Day. > NO MOOT FOR YOU!@$#!#$ From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Tue May 18 18:39:16 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:39:16 -0400 Subject: Changelog for kernel-2.6.6-1? Message-ID: <200405181839.i4IIdOGG022174@mx1.redhat.com> Good afternoon, Can anyone tell me where I might find the changelog for kernel-2.6.6-1? This kernel is in the development branch and I want to see if a feature has been implemented that was missing in the stock kernel of FC2. TIA, Bruce From mattdm at mattdm.org Tue May 18 18:44:28 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:44:28 -0400 Subject: Test 3 & Sata, Radeon 9200 In-Reply-To: <200405181124.57109.mark@harddata.com> References: <1084899175.9988.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405181124.57109.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: <20040518184427.GA19612@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 11:24:57AM -0600, Mark Lane wrote: > Libata uses scsi device names in 2.4 and ide device names in 2.6 (Which, as a random aside, is kinda unfortunate: I was looking forward to the arbitrary naming distinction to go away and have all hard drives look the same from that level. Oh well.) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From aoliva at redhat.com Tue May 18 18:45:39 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 18 May 2004 15:45:39 -0300 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A9E672.4060002@pearldoc.com> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> <40A9E672.4060002@pearldoc.com> Message-ID: On May 18, 2004, Geert Theys wrote: > Mhh and if you don't have a diskdrive ? Maybe you should explain howto > make a bootable CD ;) How about burning the rescuecd image, or just keeping disc1 around, that can be booted in rescue mode? Yeah, it's not the same as being able to use a floppy to boot directly into the system, but it helps you restore the system and doesn't require update every time you update the kernel or change the default boot options. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From aoliva at redhat.com Tue May 18 18:47:33 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 18 May 2004 15:47:33 -0300 Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <1084895899.3066.6.camel@fedora> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <1084895899.3066.6.camel@fedora> Message-ID: On May 18, 2004, Ron Bellomo wrote: > BTW, this problem box has two 120GB hdd's. This box I am using now has > two 40GB drives, and has not exhibited the problem. Dual booting with > Win XP has worked fine. Does the drive size have anything to do with > this? I don't think the size does, but probably the geometry does. If the two OSs have different notions about the disk geometries, it's likely that the partition tables and the boot loader code of each OS may get confused. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From greg-miller at shaw.ca Tue May 18 19:48:12 2004 From: greg-miller at shaw.ca (Greg Miller) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:48:12 -0600 Subject: Test 3 & Sata, Radeon 9200 In-Reply-To: <200405181124.57109.mark@harddata.com> References: <1084899175.9988.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405181124.57109.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: <1084909692.2498.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thanks for the tips. It looks like my problem is a little bigger than I anticipated. I also forgot to mention a few details. When the system starts and get to the graphical display (where is says to press F2 for details) the screen looks like it zoomed in on the upper left hand section of the screen. i.e creating the display in 1024x768 and showing 640x480. The login screen looks fine. When I login, I am stuck at 640x480 and I get this error: Error activating XKB configuration. Probably internal X server problem. X server version data: The X.Org Foundation 60700000 If you report this situation as a bug, please include: - The result of xprop -root | grep XKB - The result of gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/xkb The results of the above are: [millerg at localhost millerg]$ xprop -root | grep XKB _XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "xfree86", "pc105", "us", "", "" _XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "xfree86", "pc105", "us", "", "" [millerg at localhost millerg]$ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/xkb layouts = [us] model = pc105 overrideSettings = false options = [] Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Greg Miller On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 11:24, Mark Lane wrote: > On May 18, 2004 10:52 am, Greg Miller wrote: > > I have recently upgraded from FC1 x86_64 to FC2 test 3. > > > > FC2 recognizes the drives differently. On FC1 my sata drive was sdaX and > > on FC2 it is hdeX. The install would quit when it could not find the > > swap space on sda9. I was able to install by editing my fstab so that my > > swap space was /dev/hde9. > > Libata uses scsi device names in 2.4 and ide device names in 2.6 > > > > There was some sort of error that it asked me to save to disk as well. I > > don't know what to do with it. > > > > My video card is a Radeon 9200 and for some reason my resolution has a > > maximum of 800x600 now. > > > This is a problem with /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Edit the file, go to the display > section and uncomment the vertical refresh and horizontal sync rate lines. If > they are not there add the proper ones for your monitor. > > > Mozilla 1.6 did not install because of conflict with 1.4. > > > I would just download 1.6 rpms and force the install or remove 1.4 and then > install 1.6 > > > > -- > Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com > Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com > T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 > 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 > --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- > From arnling at kth.se Tue May 18 22:03:08 2004 From: arnling at kth.se (Joakim Arnling) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:03:08 +0200 Subject: Changelog for kernel-2.6.6-1? In-Reply-To: <200405181839.i4IIdOGG022174@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200405181839.i4IIdOGG022174@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084917787.2642.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Maybe this will do? http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.6 / Joakim tis 2004-05-18 klockan 20.39 skrev Bruce P. Morin: > Good afternoon, > > Can anyone tell me where I might find the changelog for kernel-2.6.6-1? This > kernel is in the development branch and I want to see if a feature has been > implemented that was missing in the stock kernel of FC2. > > TIA, > > Bruce From rhouston at rlhc.net Tue May 18 22:12:19 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:12:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: USB Mouse not working since kernel update Message-ID: <60025.24.77.172.251.1084918339.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Hi all, I recently tried to install kernel 2.4.26 from kernel.org so my sound card in my HP zt1135 laptop would work. After doing so my sound works great now but my usbmouse dose not seem to work any longer. I tried to compile a custom 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl but the same issue with the usb mouse has occurred. If I go back to the origin 2.4.22-1.2288 updated from yum the mouse works fine. Any one have any ideas on this? Did I miss something? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, +------------------------------------------+ | Richard Houston .^. | | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | | E-Mail /( )\ | | WWW ^^-^^ | +------------------------------------------+ From jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk Tue May 18 21:12:37 2004 From: jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:12:37 +0100 Subject: sharing /boot beween FC1 and FC2 In-Reply-To: <40A9CA49.3070806@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> References: <40A9CA49.3070806@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <200405182212.37966.jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Hi, Thanks for the help. Have now got FC1 and FC2 happily co-existing.. Chris On Tuesday 18 May 2004 9:33 am, Chris Jones wrote: > Hi, > > I want to upgrade my system to FC2, but since it took a long time to get > things going correctly in FC1 I want to dual boot both for a while > instead of upgrading only to discover things don't work, sharing /home > and a few data partitions. I already have a /boot partition for FC1 and > I am wondering if I can just point the FC2 install to this during > installation - will it add itself correctly to grub.conf, or will it > crash my FC1 boot options ? Is this just a bad idea ? > > cheers Chris -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dr Chris R Jones work : +44 (0)1223 337324 | | HEP Group (rm 882) fax : +44 (0)1223 353920 | | Cavendish Laboratory, home : +44 (0)1223 510711 | | Madingley Road, email: jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk | | Cambridge, CB3 0HE http://www.hep.phy.cam.ac.uk/~jonesc | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From w.steenburg at myactv.net Tue May 18 22:34:29 2004 From: w.steenburg at myactv.net (Wayne Steenburg) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:34:29 -0400 Subject: Changelog for kernel-2.6.6-1? In-Reply-To: <200405181839.i4IIdOGG022174@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200405181839.i4IIdOGG022174@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1084919669.3132.4.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 14:39, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Can anyone tell me where I might find the changelog for kernel-2.6.6-1? This > kernel is in the development branch and I want to see if a feature has been > implemented that was missing in the stock kernel of FC2. > > TIA, > > Bruce Example: [wayne at FC2-WORKSTATION Documentation]$ rpm -q --changelog kernel-2.6.5-1.358 Of course this requires you to have already downloaded the rpm. But using kernel.org's changelog can be misleading since the kernel crew at Redhat use more discretion in implementing their patches. Wayne Steenburg From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Tue May 18 23:25:08 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Changelog for kernel-2.6.6-1? In-Reply-To: <1084919669.3132.4.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> References: <200405181839.i4IIdOGG022174@mx1.redhat.com> <1084919669.3132.4.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> Message-ID: <65325.65.40.74.25.1084922708.squirrel@65.40.74.25> Wayne Steenburg said: > Example: > > [wayne at FC2-WORKSTATION Documentation]$ rpm -q --changelog > kernel-2.6.5-1.358 Don't you mean: rpm -qp --changelog kernel-2.6.5-1.358.i686.rpm So you don't have to install the RPM first? -- William Hooper From bpmorin at safepointetech.com Wed May 19 00:12:29 2004 From: bpmorin at safepointetech.com (Bruce P. Morin) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:12:29 -0400 Subject: Changelog for kernel-2.6.6-1? In-Reply-To: <1084919669.3132.4.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> References: <200405181839.i4IIdOGG022174@mx1.redhat.com> <1084919669.3132.4.camel@FC2-WORKSTATION> Message-ID: <1084925548.2898.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Wayne, Thanks for the tip, I must have had a mind cramp or something - I forgot all about that. Well after checking, I was hoping the firewire issue was resolved, but alas, it looks like we'll have to wait a little longer on that. Thanks again, Bruce On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 18:34 -0400, Wayne Steenburg wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 14:39, Bruce P. Morin wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > > > Can anyone tell me where I might find the changelog for kernel-2.6.6-1? This > > kernel is in the development branch and I want to see if a feature has been > > implemented that was missing in the stock kernel of FC2. > > > > TIA, > > > > Bruce > > > Example: > > [wayne at FC2-WORKSTATION Documentation]$ rpm -q --changelog kernel-2.6.5-1.358 > > Of course this requires you to have already downloaded the rpm. But using > kernel.org's changelog can be misleading since the kernel crew at Redhat > use more discretion in implementing their patches. > > Wayne Steenburg > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From nabilt at msn.com Wed May 19 02:04:49 2004 From: nabilt at msn.com (Nabil Tanassi) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:04:49 -0600 Subject: USB Mouse not working since kernel update Message-ID: I don't know if I'm sending this right cause it's my first time using the test list but I had this problem before and found this about it: ______________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Error scenario: Some motherboards based on VIA chipsets have USB-related problems with 2.6.x kernels. Why: This problem is due to USB support with these motherboards, although the number of problematic motherboards is decreasing with each new kernel revision. You can see evidence of the problem with boot-time syslog messages such as: usb 1-1: control timeout on ep0in and usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed (...) ret -110 Solution: Add any or all of the following boot kernel parameters to your /etc/lilo.conf file: "acpi=off", "noapic", or "nolapic". Execute "lilo -v" to update the LILO configuration. After boot, execute the following commands: # modprobe -r uhci-hcd # modprobe uhci-hcd You may also elect to use the 2.4.x kernel. ______________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- all I needed to do was add the nolapic and it worked. hope this helps _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines From kevin at findgraffs.com Wed May 19 02:14:26 2004 From: kevin at findgraffs.com (kevin Graff) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:14:26 -0400 Subject: can't get FC2 to boot Message-ID: <1084932865.7441.11.camel@kevin.graff> I have down loaded disk1 of FC2 and cant get the loader to run. the system boot till i get running /sbin/loader. then ti gose to the blue screen and hangs for a while and the screen starts filling up the random char's. I tride it on 3 computers 2 pentiume II and p4. tryed to burn it with 2 diffrent burners each time I checked the md5sum before burning it. the new computer I'm trying it on is a intel main board (D865PERL) with intel p4 processor 256M DDR 333MZ ram 20 gig ide hard drive Kevin Graff From rhouston at rlhc.net Wed May 19 03:47:08 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:47:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: USB Mouse not working since kernel update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33288.24.77.172.251.1084938428.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Thanks very much for your response. Few things though, I am using the 2.4 kernel and I have the issue even is I recompile a custom version of the yum supplied kernels. 2.4.22-1.2188 So we know the kernel works but not the custom complied one. The stock 2.4.26 kernel has the same issue. I am using the out of the box .config file and only adding win4lin support. I tested this om a completely stock kernel source and had the same issue. Hope this all make sense. Regards, +------------------------------------------+ | Richard Houston .^. | | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | | E-Mail /( )\ | | WWW ^^-^^ | +------------------------------------------+ Nabil Tanassi said: > I don't know if I'm sending this right cause it's my first time using the > test list but I had this problem before and found this about it: > ______________________________________________________________________________ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Error scenario: Some motherboards based on VIA chipsets have USB-related > problems with 2.6.x kernels. > Why: This problem is due to USB support with these motherboards, although > the number of problematic motherboards is decreasing with each new kernel > revision. You can see evidence of the problem with boot-time syslog > messages > such as: > > usb 1-1: control timeout on ep0in > and > usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed (...) ret -110 > > Solution: Add any or all of the following boot kernel parameters to your > /etc/lilo.conf file: "acpi=off", "noapic", or "nolapic". Execute "lilo -v" > to update the LILO configuration. After boot, execute the following > commands: > > # modprobe -r uhci-hcd > # modprobe uhci-hcd > > You may also elect to use the 2.4.x kernel. > ______________________________________________________________________________ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > all I needed to do was add the nolapic and it worked. hope this helps > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From h.mayer at inode.at Wed May 19 05:17:44 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 07:17:44 +0200 Subject: Test 3 & Sata, Radeon 9200 In-Reply-To: <1084909692.2498.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084899175.9988.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405181124.57109.mark@harddata.com> <1084909692.2498.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40AAEDF8.5050208@inode.at> Greg Miller wrote: > When I login, I am stuck at 640x480 and I get this error: > > Error activating XKB configuration. > Probably internal X server problem. > > X server version data: > The X.Org Foundation > 60700000 I thought this error was gone since test3...hmm... I had this one only on test2. Cheers, Hannes. From hughesac at clarkson.edu Wed May 19 05:25:25 2004 From: hughesac at clarkson.edu (Aaron Hughes) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 01:25:25 -0400 Subject: Test 3 & Sata, Radeon 9200 In-Reply-To: <40AAEDF8.5050208@inode.at> References: <1084899175.9988.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405181124.57109.mark@harddata.com> <1084909692.2498.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40AAEDF8.5050208@inode.at> Message-ID: <40AAEFC5.2050402@clarkson.edu> Hannes Mayer wrote: > Greg Miller wrote: > >> When I login, I am stuck at 640x480 and I get this error: >> >> Error activating XKB configuration. >> Probably internal X server problem. >> >> X server version data: >> The X.Org Foundation >> 60700000 > > > I thought this error was gone since test3...hmm... > I had this one only on test2. > > Cheers, > Hannes. > > > I'm not sure about the 640x480 problem you can probably change the settings for that in XF86config file but for the other problem just delete this line in XF86config file. Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" From ccradu at yahoo.com Wed May 19 05:37:57 2004 From: ccradu at yahoo.com (Radu Cornea) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem Message-ID: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> Like other people on this list I was affected by the bug which makes the XP partition in a dual boot configuration inaccessible after installing Fedora. Below are the steps I used to restore the partition table to its original configuration. Some people mentioned a fix that involved setting the hard disk configuration to LBA in the BIOS, but that may not work in some cases (I have an old IBM Thinkpad which does not allow it). By looking at the partition information as printed by fdisk after the partition is corrupted, it seems that the bug affects only the C/H/S values, the LBA are still correct. Even the fdisk manual specifies that "DOS uses C/H/S only, Windows uses both [C/H/S and LBA], Linux never uses C/H/S". This means that the correct information is still there but just one copy is correct, the LBA one (most people affected said they could access the Windows partition from Linux just fine). The procedure below attempts to regenerate the MBR from scratch using the LBA values. In most cases the original disk geometry had 255 (or 240) as number of heads initially and was changed to 16 after the partition was corrupted by FC2. More info about the bug can be found here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115980 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=113201 This did work for me. I don't guarantee it will work for everyone, use it at your own risk... You need a bootable Linux CD (e.g. Knoppix) and a DOS system disk with fdisk on it. Here are the steps I followed: 1. boot from Knoppix or other bootable Linux CD (using the Fedora rescue CD or booting in the newly installed system in single mode, ro mounted may work too, but I haven't tried) 2. save the content of the MBR (and possibly all the boot sectors from the partitions). This is important in case something goes wrong and you want to restore later: $ dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.img bs=512 count=1 3. run fdisk, go into expert mode and write down (or save into a file) the starting sector (NOT block), end sector and type for each partition (example below): $ fdisk /dev/hda Command: u (change units to sectors) Command: p (print) Example output: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 63 33732719 16866328+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 74692800 78140159 1723680 1c Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hda3 35834400 74692799 19429200 83 Linux /dev/hda4 33732720 35834399 1050840 82 Linux swap 4. completely erase the MBR by writing zeros to it (you may skip this step, I am not sure if it is really needed, but this way it worked for me): $ dd if=/dev/zero of=zero.img bs=512 count=1 $ dd if=zero.img of=/dev/hda 5. force the original number of heads. In my case (20Gb in a Thinkpad) this was 240, but in most other cases it would be 255. See this post for more info: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=1Gjko-6Y1-5%40gated-at.bofh.it&rnum=4 Using fdisk this will also create a new DOS partition table and restore the original partitions: $ fdisk -H 255 /dev/hda # or 240 for some configurations Command: o (create new partition table) 6. by now you have a newly generaed partition table, with the original disk geometry. Recreate the partitions as they were before: Command: n (new partition) Primary partition (p) Partition number: 1 First cylinder: 63 # beginning of first partition Last cylinder or +size[...]: 33732719 # end of first partition Command: t (change type) Partition number: 1 Hex code: 07 # they type of the partition Repeat for all 4 partitions. Verify at the end that the start/end/id are correct: Command: p (print) If everything is correct, write the partition table to the disk and exit: Command: w (write) Command: q (quit) 7. in my case, I had to run an extra "fdisk /mbr" using the DOS bootdisk (may work with a XP installation CD too, but I haven't tried). After that, everything worked fine, the partition table was back to the original configuration. If you have the GRUB in the MBR, the "fdisk /mbr" will overwrite it so you may want to restore it later (but use the Knoppix CD, not FC2, otherwise you may end up where you started if the bug is in grub). On my machine GRUB was installed in the Linux partition so it wasn't affected. You can return to the original MBR at any time by writing the saved image to the disk (in case this fix does not work for you) as long as you only make changes to the MBR: $ fdisk if=mbr.img of=/dev/hda This is it, I hope it works for others, if it does please let me know. -- Radu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From db at zigo.dhs.org Wed May 19 06:30:34 2004 From: db at zigo.dhs.org (Dennis Bjorklund) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:30:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Test 3 & Sata, Radeon 9200 In-Reply-To: <40AAEDF8.5050208@inode.at> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 May 2004, Hannes Mayer wrote: > > Error activating XKB configuration. > > Probably internal X server problem. > > > > X server version data: > > The X.Org Foundation > > 60700000 > > I thought this error was gone since test3...hmm... > I had this one only on test2. It's not gone. I got the same error upgrading my FC1 to FC2 (no test version installed in between). -- /Dennis Bj?rklund From pmatilai at welho.com Wed May 19 06:38:31 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:38:31 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Test 3 & Sata, Radeon 9200 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 19 May 2004, Dennis Bjorklund wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 2004, Hannes Mayer wrote: > > > > Error activating XKB configuration. > > > Probably internal X server problem. > > > > > > X server version data: > > > The X.Org Foundation > > > 60700000 > > > > I thought this error was gone since test3...hmm... > > I had this one only on test2. > > It's not gone. I got the same error upgrading my FC1 to FC2 (no test > version installed in between). Same here, commenting out the XkbRules line out helped. - Panu - From aike at aike.de Wed May 19 07:48:28 2004 From: aike at aike.de (Aike Mueller) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:48:28 +0200 Subject: FC2 T3 massive dependency problems w/ up2date Message-ID: <40AB114C.8080801@aike.de> I installed FC2T3 about a week ago. Up2date worked better than expected and i installed all the updated suggested including the new up2date package. This one replaced in the sources file the rawhide channels with fc2. That file didn't work on that day but it does now. Now -ehen trying to install the gnome-vfs packages (among others) up2date complains about (mostly bonobo) dependency problems with a huge list of installed gnome apps. I don't know what exactly has changed in the packages. Therefore I was afraid of screwing up my system by forcing the updated. Any suggestion how to solve this problem? Thanks, Aike From Bernd.Bartmann at sohanet.de Wed May 19 08:23:04 2004 From: Bernd.Bartmann at sohanet.de (Bernd Bartmann) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:23:04 +0200 Subject: Some FC1 security advisories are still missing Message-ID: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It's nice to see that some of the missing FC1 security advisories were finally posted today: cvs-1.11.15-1 neon-0.24.5-1 mailman-2.1.4-1 But again at least two advisories are still missing, although the updates are already available for some time: postfix-2.0.16-1 tcpdump-3.7.2-8.fc1.2 This again raises the question will we ever get an official FC errata web-site on fedora.redhat.com? Best regards. - -- Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Bernd Bartmann I.S. Security and Network Engineer SoHaNet Technology GmbH / Kaiserin-Augusta-Allee 10-11 / 10553 Berlin Fon: +49 30 214783-44 / Fax: +49 30 214783-46 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAqxlokQuIaHu84cIRAuUCAJ9xMlhl9giRdV8zxpv2KWbizBN//gCeMWj1 9K3O41LJaC9BLWthvHf9AEs= =YgwF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fedora at warmcat.com Wed May 19 09:10:48 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:10:48 +0100 Subject: Some FC1 security advisories are still missing In-Reply-To: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> References: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> Message-ID: <200405191010.49023.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 May 2004 09:23, Bernd Bartmann wrote: > It's nice to see that some of the missing FC1 security advisories were > finally posted today: > cvs-1.11.15-1 > neon-0.24.5-1 > mailman-2.1.4-1 > > But again at least two advisories are still missing, although the > updates are already available for some time: > postfix-2.0.16-1 > tcpdump-3.7.2-8.fc1.2 I saw over on Full-disclosure that Stefan Esser released information on the bugs today, with, for example this for the CVS one: Disclosure Timeline: ? ?02. May 2004 - CVS developers and vendor-sec were notified by email ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Derek Robert Price replied nearly immediately that the ???????????????? ?issue is fixed ? ?03. May 2004 - Pre-notification process of important repositories ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? was started ? ?11. May 2004 - Sourceforge discovered that the patch breaks ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? compatibility with some pserver protocol violating ???????????????? ?versions of WinCVS/TortoiseCVS ? ?12. May 2004 - Pre-notified repositories were warned about this ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? problem with a more compatible patch. ? ?19. May 2004 - Coordinated Public Disclosure It is likely then that the problems with postfix and tcpdump are currently being sat on until their "Coordinated Public Disclosure". Me, if I see an official update is around, I jump on it, I'll find out why later ;-) - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAqySYjKeDCxMJCTIRAhyFAJwNb7DMQ+aAINARuFDB/DD2ta/KcACgjJud 1Gc1IUnOPOjoQHCtX2SslHI= =LyOs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From seanlkml at rogers.com Wed May 19 10:04:38 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 06:04:38 -0400 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040519060438.03666975.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Radu Cornea wrote: > > This is it, I hope it works for others, if it does please let me know. > Great job Radu. Nice to see the beginnings of a solution emerge so soon. Looks like it's not the end of Linux after all :o) I am not lucky enough to have this problem on either of my systems here but I did slap together a script that changes the HEADS count for just the windows partition. I could create and then fix something that looks like the reported error. Will wait for someone who wants to try it out because there is probably an easier way still. Thanks! Sean. From davej at redhat.com Wed May 19 10:42:45 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 11:42:45 +0100 Subject: htree In-Reply-To: <200405181748.27157.carles@unlimitedmail.org> References: <200405181748.27157.carles@unlimitedmail.org> Message-ID: <1084963365.9935.11.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 16:48, Carles Xavier Munyoz Bald? wrote: > Is the htree directory index available in Fedora Core 2 release ? yes > Is it enabled by default in any new ext3 filesystem ? yes > Any bug reported about htree and Fedora Core 2 ? not that I recall Dave From wtogami at redhat.com Wed May 19 10:46:47 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:46:47 -1000 Subject: Gaim throwing tones of errors In-Reply-To: <40940EED.1080502@redhat.com> References: <20040501050404.99094.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> <40940EED.1080502@redhat.com> Message-ID: <40AB3B17.4070004@redhat.com> Warren Togami wrote: > Jerone Young wrote: > >> Using gaim 0.77-3 and when I check dmesg I see these: >> >> gaim[2650] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 >> rsp:7fbfff8080 error:0 > > SNIP > >> gaim[3042] trap divide error rip:32bf742cb0 >> rsp:7fbfff7de0 error:0 >> >> Gaim seems to be working fine, but it is doing >> something wrong. >> >> > > Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Can you please provide > the following information. > > Which architecture is this? I am guessing AMD64 based upon the register > names. > > Which kernel version? > > Which protocols are you using in gaim? > > Upstream gaim developers have just informed me that the yahoo protocol > is totally broken on 64bit architectures. Are you using yahoo? Are you > seeing any behavior like this? > Your lack of response has been irresponsible toward the resolution of this problem, however luckily Justin Forbes has provided this information. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123537 Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From MichaelBoord at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 19 11:11:55 2004 From: MichaelBoord at yahoo.co.uk (Michael Boord) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:11:55 +0200 Subject: Way to check if IDE drive is using power management In-Reply-To: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> References: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to check if your IDE drives are using power management? Like in Windows you can setup a inactivity time. After that the drive stops spinning. From mb/redhat at dcs.qmul.ac.uk Wed May 19 11:18:41 2004 From: mb/redhat at dcs.qmul.ac.uk (Matt Bernstein) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:18:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: ACLs [was Re: htree] In-Reply-To: <1084963365.9935.11.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <200405181748.27157.carles@unlimitedmail.org> <1084963365.9935.11.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: At 11:42 +0100 Dave Jones wrote: >> Any bug reported about htree and Fedora Core 2 ? > > not that I recall I'm wondering why setfacl gives "Operation not supported" under ext3. Were ACLs deemed not stable enough, but the tools included in case you were feeling brave? From johnh at comp.leeds.ac.uk Wed May 19 11:16:55 2004 From: johnh at comp.leeds.ac.uk (John Hodrien) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:16:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Way to check if IDE drive is using power management In-Reply-To: References: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 May 2004, Michael Boord wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there is a way to check if your IDE drives > are using power management? > > Like in Windows you can setup a inactivity time. > After that the drive stops spinning. Look at what you can set with hdparm. Not sure you can check it though... jh -- "I want to tell you a terrific story about oral contraception. I asked this girl to sleep with me and she said 'no'." -- Woody Allen From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed May 19 11:31:42 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:31:42 +0200 Subject: Some FC1 security advisories are still missing In-Reply-To: <200405191010.49023.fedora@warmcat.com> References: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> <200405191010.49023.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <1084966302.5614.4.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Andy, > > tcpdump-3.7.2-8.fc1.2 -fc1.1 > It is likely then that the problems with postfix and tcpdump are currently > being sat on until their "Coordinated Public Disclosure". You missed the point. These are packages that already have been released, but for which no announcement was made. The CVS issue is yet another bug, not fixed in the version mentioned by Bernd. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From alan at redhat.com Wed May 19 11:42:22 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 07:42:22 -0400 Subject: Way to check if IDE drive is using power management In-Reply-To: References: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> Message-ID: <20040519114222.GA790@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 01:11:55PM +0200, Michael Boord wrote: > I was wondering if there is a way to check if your IDE drives > are using power management? man hdparm From Bernd.Bartmann at sohanet.de Wed May 19 11:47:15 2004 From: Bernd.Bartmann at sohanet.de (Bernd Bartmann) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:47:15 +0200 Subject: Some FC1 security advisories are still missing In-Reply-To: <1084966302.5614.4.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> <200405191010.49023.fedora@warmcat.com> <1084966302.5614.4.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <40AB4943.8020002@sohanet.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Leonard den Ottolander wrote: | Hi Andy, | |>>tcpdump-3.7.2-8.fc1.2 | | -fc1.1 No, I really mean -fc1.2. -fc1.1 was announced on 4.3.2004 with an update of the errata number on 11.3.2004. Best regards. - -- Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Bernd Bartmann I.S. Security and Network Engineer SoHaNet Technology GmbH / Kaiserin-Augusta-Allee 10-11 / 10553 Berlin Fon: +49 30 214783-44 / Fax: +49 30 214783-46 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAq0lDkQuIaHu84cIRAmreAJwJeacKOwZWyGHgoUv/Lu6bdB6ZKQCgjmMj ZcNUjgMCJgfEBhWJBRVE3TI= =xdIo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Wed May 19 11:49:33 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:49:33 +0800 Subject: ACLs [was Re: htree] In-Reply-To: References: <200405181748.27157.carles@unlimitedmail.org> <1084963365.9935.11.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <1084967372.10049.33.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 19:18, Matt Bernstein wrote: > At 11:42 +0100 Dave Jones wrote: > > >> Any bug reported about htree and Fedora Core 2 ? > > > > not that I recall > > I'm wondering why setfacl gives "Operation not supported" under ext3. Were > ACLs deemed not stable enough, but the tools included in case you were > feeling brave? Did you add the 'acl' option to the /etc/fstab for the partition(s) you want to use acl on and remount them? -- Chris Kloiber From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Wed May 19 11:58:52 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:58:52 +0200 Subject: Some FC1 security advisories are still missing In-Reply-To: <40AB4943.8020002@sohanet.de> References: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> <200405191010.49023.fedora@warmcat.com> <1084966302.5614.4.camel@athlon.localdomain> <40AB4943.8020002@sohanet.de> Message-ID: <1084967932.5614.10.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Bernd, > |>>tcpdump-3.7.2-8.fc1.2 > | > | -fc1.1 > > No, I really mean -fc1.2. -fc1.1 was announced on 4.3.2004 with an > update of the errata number on 11.3.2004. I see now. Problem is I built my own tcpdump-3.7.2-8.1. That's why tcpdump-3.7.2-8.fc1.2 didn't show up in up2date. Dang. Very annoying these version format changes during a release. We started out with 3.7.2-7.1. The introduction of "fc1" obviously interfered with my versioning. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 19 12:42:18 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 07:42:18 -0500 Subject: FC2 T3 massive dependency problems w/ up2date In-Reply-To: <40AB114C.8080801@aike.de> References: <40AB114C.8080801@aike.de> Message-ID: <40AB562A.4070203@earthlink.net> Aike Mueller wrote: > I installed FC2T3 about a week ago. Up2date worked better than expected > and i installed all the updated suggested including the new up2date > package. This one replaced in the sources file the rawhide channels with > fc2. That file didn't work on that day but it does now. > Now -ehen trying to install the gnome-vfs packages (among others) > up2date complains about (mostly bonobo) dependency problems with a huge > list of installed gnome apps. > > I don't know what exactly has changed in the packages. Therefore I was > afraid of screwing up my system by forcing the updated. > > Any suggestion how to solve this problem? > Support on the Fedora-Test-List is waning due to the release of FC2. I would suggest getting a copy of FC2 and replacing your FC2T3 install with it. Follow the Fedora-List mailing list rather than this one. Gerry Tool From czar at czarc.net Wed May 19 12:54:48 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:54:48 -0400 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200405190854.48304.czar@czarc.net> OK, the process which was posted to the mailing list may work to fix things when they get screwed up. However, I have used a different approach which works for me ... don't let things get screwed up. When I install Fedora (and this has also happened with RHL at some times) and the installer gripes that the partition table has errors, it is usually the case that the disk was partitioned with LBA (and fdisk). The system I have does not use XP but does have Win2k installed. When the problem occurs, I boot the Fedora installer and specify the LBA values ... for example, I used: linux hda=7476,255,63 when I installed FC2. This system has Maxtor 60GB disks and these are the LBA values. When I do this, FC2 install uses the LBA values I specified. After installation, I can boot Win2k or any of the FC1 or FC2 systems I have installed. Your milage may vary but this works for me. -- Gene From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 19 13:14:16 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:14:16 -0400 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <200405190854.48304.czar@czarc.net> References: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> <200405190854.48304.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <604aa79104051906145f1c44c6@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 19 May 2004 08:54:48 -0400, Gene C. wrote: > > OK, the process which was posted to the mailing list may work to fix things > when they get screwed up. However, I have used a different approach which > works for me ... don't let things get screwed up. > > When I install Fedora (and this has also happened with RHL at some times) and > the installer gripes that the partition table has errors, it is usually the > case that the disk was partitioned with LBA (and fdisk). One thing I haven't gotten a good sense of... is everyone having problems with XP currently...getting an installer warning about partition errors before things go horribly wrong? If people are ignoring warning messages, that is important information. -jef"warnings what are they good for? absolutely nothin'...err i mean...ignore warnings at your own peril"spaleta From aoliva at redhat.com Wed May 19 13:42:02 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 19 May 2004 10:42:02 -0300 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On May 19, 2004, Radu Cornea wrote: > 6. by now you have a newly generaed partition table, with the original > disk geometry. Recreate the partitions as they were before: /me assumes it would be possible to automate the fix up of the partition table with creative use of: sfdisk -d | sfdisk -C# -H# -S# -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 19 13:42:11 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:42:11 -0400 Subject: Some FC1 security advisories are still missing In-Reply-To: <1084967932.5614.10.camel@athlon.localdomain> References: <40AB1968.9050509@sohanet.de> <200405191010.49023.fedora@warmcat.com> <1084966302.5614.4.camel@athlon.localdomain> <40AB4943.8020002@sohanet.de> <1084967932.5614.10.camel@athlon.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa79104051906424f3f79ff@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 19 May 2004 13:58:52 +0200, Leonard den Ottolander > out with 3.7.2-7.1. The introduction of "fc1" obviously interfered with > my versioning. As of now, afaict there is no policy in place about core package maintainers changing the release naming, and there hasn't ever been one even for rhl. It appears to be a packager by packager choice, so long as there is a clean upgrade path from previous version of the core package to the update. You might want to look at Alexandre Oliva's posts in -devel about using the "0.whatever" construction for things you roll yourself that you want relplaced with official updates. I'll be the first one to admit that I purposely try to ignore the petty fighting..err i mean the discussions...regarding how to version packages. I'm just waiting to be told what to do. But the "0." construction might provide you a way to see official updates, or it might not. -jef From k at dicec.cl Wed May 19 13:54:01 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:54:01 -0400 Subject: bugs on FC2 final Message-ID: <1084974841.31141.17.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> On a Proliant DL380G2(dual p3 1266, 768ram ECC, 3xSCSI) The install was very smooth. In Gnome openening gnome-terminal, doing a dmesg to watch the boot output, the outputs corrupts so you see like 1 over 10 lines of messages, the best way to explain this glitches can be a screenshot... but is like ' `' `'`' ` ' ``' ``' ` ' ` ''' ``` ````` in between some lines... but scrolling changes the artifacts so you can see some lines that were '`'?' ' ? ?`' '`... but some normal lines were covered by '`''``''?? again... i'll fill the bugzilla if is necesary -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Wed May 19 14:53:57 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal D. Becker) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:53:57 -0400 Subject: Subversion 1.0.3 SECURITY Message-ID: In case you don't know, subversion released an important security fix today (1.0.3) From mike at netlyncs.com Wed May 19 15:06:18 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:06:18 -0500 Subject: bugs on FC2 final In-Reply-To: <1084974841.31141.17.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> References: <1084974841.31141.17.camel@shrek.dicec.cl> Message-ID: <1084979178.2110.2.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 08:54, Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: > In Gnome openening gnome-terminal, doing a dmesg to watch the boot > output, the outputs corrupts so you see like 1 over 10 lines of > messages, the best way to explain this glitches can be a screenshot... > > but is like ' `' `'`' ` ' ``' ``' ` ' ` ''' ``` ````` in between some > lines... but scrolling changes the artifacts so you can see some lines > that were '`'?' ' ? ?`' '`... but some normal lines were covered by > '`''``''?? again... > Think I have seen the same thing. It seems the fonts get messed up once the terminal is open and you go to scroll, then back down again. > > i'll fill the bugzilla if is necesary I should have already, as I experienced this since FC2 testing began, but never got around to it (just busy is all, not that I am lazy). Side note, any experiences with FC2 installs/problems, should probably go to fedora-list so others can benefit, as that is the official fedora release mailing list. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Wed May 19 15:59:43 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 18:59:43 +0300 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <604aa79104051906145f1c44c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> <200405190854.48304.czar@czarc.net> <604aa79104051906145f1c44c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1084982383.2936.5.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 16:14, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > One thing I haven't gotten a good sense of... is everyone having > problems with XP currently...getting an installer warning about > partition errors before things go horribly wrong? If people are > ignoring warning messages, that is important information. > > -jef"warnings what are they good for? absolutely nothin'...err i > mean...ignore warnings at your own peril"spaleta > Then there is a problem with the warning. The warning says that it is safe to proceed and that the problem is fixable later. Besides, there is no indication that if I install on hda, I can mess up hdb. From fenlason at redhat.com Wed May 19 16:27:12 2004 From: fenlason at redhat.com (Jay Fenlason) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:27:12 -0400 Subject: Samba-3.0.4-1.FC1 rpms now avaliable for testing on Fedora Core 1 Message-ID: <20040519162712.GA1613@redhat.com> These rpms upgrade Samba to the 3.0.4 release, and includes additonal patches to fix the following bugs: #114436, #122749, #122527, #102715, #121356, #118598, #116560, #116559 If I don't hear any negative feedback before June first, I'll push them as official updates. (And I'll build samba-3.0.4 packages for Fedora Core 2 and push them as well.) -- JF From gstool at earthlink.net Wed May 19 16:27:09 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 11:27:09 -0500 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <604aa79104051906145f1c44c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> <200405190854.48304.czar@czarc.net> <604aa79104051906145f1c44c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40AB8ADD.3070300@earthlink.net> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 2004 08:54:48 -0400, Gene C. wrote: > >>OK, the process which was posted to the mailing list may work to fix things >>when they get screwed up. However, I have used a different approach which >>works for me ... don't let things get screwed up. >> >>When I install Fedora (and this has also happened with RHL at some times) and >>the installer gripes that the partition table has errors, it is usually the >>case that the disk was partitioned with LBA (and fdisk). > > > One thing I haven't gotten a good sense of... is everyone having > problems with XP currently...getting an installer warning about > partition errors before things go horribly wrong? If people are > ignoring warning messages, that is important information. > > -jef"warnings what are they good for? absolutely nothin'...err i > mean...ignore warnings at your own peril"spaleta > > I had the problem, and I had the warnings, but those same warnings have been present in every install since RHL8 betas and on every FC test release. The warning even says it can probably be ignored. Gerry Tool From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed May 19 16:32:50 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:32:50 -0400 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <40AB8ADD.3070300@earthlink.net> References: <20040519053757.87296.qmail@web50802.mail.yahoo.com> <200405190854.48304.czar@czarc.net> <604aa79104051906145f1c44c6@mail.gmail.com> <40AB8ADD.3070300@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <604aa79104051909326d7aa848@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 19 May 2004 11:27:09 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > I had the problem, and I had the warnings, but those same warnings have > been present in every install since RHL8 betas and on every FC test > release. The warning even says it can probably be ignored. Okay...problem solved. I'll file a bug to fix the warning message to say that its not something that can probably be ignored anymore. -jef From ccradu at yahoo.com Wed May 19 16:29:57 2004 From: ccradu at yahoo.com (Radu Cornea) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alexandre Oliva wrote: > /me assumes it would be possible to automate the fix up of the > partition table with creative use of: > > sfdisk -d | sfdisk -C# -H# -S# > You are right, that is a way better solution. I wasn't aware of the sfdisk utility before. I tried to recreate the bad partition problem again (from the saved mbr sector), made sure XP wasn't booting any more and then I run in Linux: sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk --no-reread -H240 /dev/hda This seems to have fixed it just like my original procedure (well much easier :) ). I even did a byte compare of the mbr with the one I restored before using those long steps and they are the same. Plus, I did not have to run 'fdisk /mbr' from DOS any more (I guess the sfdisk utility just changes the values not the rest of signatures etc). So this looke like the best solution to fix the problem so far. If this helps to find the problem with the wrong geometry, even after fixing the mbr, the kernel reports wrong geometry in /proc/ide/hda/geometry. My laptop is a IBM Thinkpad 600, so it probably has an older BIOS. If there is anything else I can do to help finding the bug, please let me know. -- Radu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ From michael at epm2.com Wed May 19 16:45:12 2004 From: michael at epm2.com (Michael Hatzel) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:45:12 -0400 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <604aa79104051909326d7aa848@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Wouldn't it be just as easy to have the ISOs boot (or have the option to boot) using LBA as the default, thereby making this a moot point? Mike On Wed, 19 May 2004 11:27:09 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote: > I had the problem, and I had the warnings, but those same warnings have > been present in every install since RHL8 betas and on every FC test > release. The warning even says it can probably be ignored. Okay...problem solved. I'll file a bug to fix the warning message to say that its not something that can probably be ignored anymore. -jef From ccradu at yahoo.com Wed May 19 17:10:32 2004 From: ccradu at yahoo.com (Radu Cornea) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:10:32 -0700 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40AB9508.20009@yahoo.com> On 5/19/2004 9:29 AM, Radu Cornea wrote: > I tried to recreate the bad partition problem again (from the saved mbr > sector), made sure XP wasn't booting any more and then I run in Linux: > > sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk --no-reread -H240 /dev/hda > > This seems to have fixed it just like my original procedure (well much > easier :) ). I even did a byte compare of the mbr with the one I restored > before using those long steps and they are the same. > Just a comment: the 240 value worked for my setup, but in most other cases the right value would probably be 255. -- Radu From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Wed May 19 17:39:51 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:39:51 +0300 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084988391.2936.15.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 19:29, Radu Cornea wrote: > I tried to recreate the bad partition problem again (from the saved mbr > sector), made sure XP wasn't booting any more and then I run in Linux: > > sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk --no-reread -H240 /dev/hda > > This seems to have fixed it just like my original procedure (well much > easier :) ). I even did a byte compare of the mbr with the one I restored > before using those long steps and they are the same. I am curious if the following problem is what is meant to be fixed by this method. Is it considered safe. I tend to feel that since I can currently use both win2k and linux, and they can read each others partitions, I should leave everything alone. Especially, since I don't have the ability to backup 40g of data. Am I fooling myself and should really try to make the disks consistent? sfdisk -l /dev/hdb gives Disk /dev/hdb: 158816 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors/track Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundary. DOS and Linux will interpret the contents differently. Units = cylinders of 516096 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 0+ 40640- 40641- 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,15,63) found (1023,254,63) /dev/hdb2 40640+ 81281- 40641- 20482875 83 Linux /dev/hdb3 81281+ 97840- 16560- 8345767+ 7 HPFS/NTFS start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,15,63) found (1023,0,1) /dev/hdb4 97840+ 158801- 60961- 30724312+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,15,63) found (1023,0,1) /dev/hdb5 97840+ 158801- 60961- 30724281 b W95 FAT32 start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,15,63) found (1023,1,1) running sfdisk -d /dev/hdb gives Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundary. DOS and Linux will interpret the contents differently. # partition table of /dev/hdb unit: sectors /dev/hdb1 : start= 63, size= 40965687, Id= 7, bootable /dev/hdb2 : start= 40965750, size= 40965750, Id=83 /dev/hdb3 : start= 81931500, size= 16691535, Id= 7 /dev/hdb4 : start= 98623035, size= 61448625, Id= f /dev/hdb5 : start= 98623098, size= 61448562, Id= b From yarchyk at mail.ru Wed May 19 17:51:12 2004 From: yarchyk at mail.ru (Yarchyk:-)) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:51:12 -0400 Subject: kxkb, keyboard layout doesn't work, FC2 In-Reply-To: <40AB9508.20009@yahoo.com> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> <40AB9508.20009@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40AB9E90.8020004@mail.ru> I've just noticed, that when I tried to switch keybord layout, it doesn't work in whole. I'm using KDE. I tried to set it up in kcontrol (KDE control center), but control center showed me that I have no available layouts, but before I've installed german and spanish and ukrainian support packages for KDE! When I start xkdb I cannt see any flags shows the actual state of my keyboard. With shortcut keys the same story- ctrl-alt-k gives nothing. Any ideas? Yarema From ccradu at yahoo.com Wed May 19 18:23:53 2004 From: ccradu at yahoo.com (Radu Cornea) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 11:23:53 -0700 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <1084988391.2936.15.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> <1084988391.2936.15.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <40ABA639.60600@yahoo.com> shmuel siegel wrote: > I am curious if the following problem is what is meant to be fixed by > this method. Is it considered safe. I tend to feel that since I can > currently use both win2k and linux, and they can read each others > partitions, I should leave everything alone. Especially, since I don't > have the ability to backup 40g of data. Am I fooling myself and should > really try to make the disks consistent? > > sfdisk -l /dev/hdb gives > Disk /dev/hdb: 158816 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors/track > Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundary. > DOS and Linux will interpret the contents differently. > Units = cylinders of 516096 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 > > Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System > /dev/hdb1 * 0+ 40640- 40641- 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,15,63) found (1023,254,63) > /dev/hdb2 40640+ 81281- 40641- 20482875 83 Linux > /dev/hdb3 81281+ 97840- 16560- 8345767+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,15,63) found (1023,0,1) > /dev/hdb4 97840+ 158801- 60961- 30724312+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,15,63) found (1023,0,1) > /dev/hdb5 97840+ 158801- 60961- 30724281 b W95 FAT32 > start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,15,63) found (1023,1,1) > > running sfdisk -d /dev/hdb gives > Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundary. > DOS and Linux will interpret the contents differently. > # partition table of /dev/hdb > unit: sectors > > /dev/hdb1 : start= 63, size= 40965687, Id= 7, bootable > /dev/hdb2 : start= 40965750, size= 40965750, Id=83 > /dev/hdb3 : start= 81931500, size= 16691535, Id= 7 > /dev/hdb4 : start= 98623035, size= 61448625, Id= f > /dev/hdb5 : start= 98623098, size= 61448562, Id= b > I am not sure if it is the same problem, but you may try sfdisk -l -H255 /dev/hdb and see if the warnings are still there. Your initial geometry probably was 255 heads, from the (1023,254,63) on hdb1. Anyway, if you can boot into win2k you should be fine. It is just the 2.6 kernel which in some cases does not report the correct disk geometry. -- Radu From blizzard at redhat.com Wed May 19 19:23:05 2004 From: blizzard at redhat.com (Christopher Blizzard) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:23:05 -0400 Subject: Flash + Mozilla and black 1px border? In-Reply-To: <1084252260.2978.9.camel@bean> References: <40A036C5.1010001@khmer.cc> <1084252260.2978.9.camel@bean> Message-ID: <40ABB419.1010607@redhat.com> Joe Reid wrote: >I'm seeing the same thing, using FireFox. So I'm assuming that this >would be a plugin issue or something in the Mozilla/Gecko engine maybe? > >Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040404 >Firefox/0.8 > >File name: libflashplayer.so >Shockwave Flash 6.0 r81 > > I think that's been fixed since 1.6. --Chris >Joe > >On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 22:13, Vibol Hou wrote: > > >>Has anyone noticed that all Flash animations (using MM Flash) under >>Mozilla has small 1px black border around them? Go to Macromedia.com >>and you'll (hopefully) see what I'm talking about in their header area. >> Other sites with Flash animation exhibit the same thing. Is there a >>setting somewhere to remove this black border (appears on top and left >>sides for me). >> >>I haven't tried this on another browser yet, but I think I will soon. >> >>-Vibol >> >> >> > > > > -- ------------ Christopher Blizzard http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/ ------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Wed May 19 19:22:27 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 22:22:27 +0300 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <40ABA639.60600@yahoo.com> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> <1084988391.2936.15.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <40ABA639.60600@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084994547.2820.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 21:23, Radu Cornea wrote: > I am not sure if it is the same problem, but you may try > > sfdisk -l -H255 /dev/hdb > > and see if the warnings are still there. Your initial geometry probably > was 255 heads, from the (1023,254,63) on hdb1. > Anyway, if you can boot into win2k you should be fine. It is just the > 2.6 kernel which in some cases does not report the correct disk geometry. > > -- > Radu > results seem a little bit worse. There is an added message that says that the system thinks that I have 16 heads. And, BTW, partition magic says that the geometry changed from 255 heads to 16 heads. sfdisk -l -H255 /dev/hdb Warning: HDIO_GETGEO says that there are 16 heads Disk /dev/hdb: 158816 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 0+ 2549 2550- 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hdb2 2550 5099 2550 20482875 83 Linux start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,15,63) end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,15,63) /dev/hdb3 5100 6138 1039 8345767+ 7 HPFS/NTFS start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,0,1) end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,15,63) /dev/hdb4 6139 9963 3825 30724312+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,0,1) end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,15,63) /dev/hdb5 6139+ 9963 3825- 30724281 b W95 FAT32 start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,1,1) end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,15,63) From tony at involution.com Wed May 19 20:03:56 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:03:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: NetSpeed and NetStatus Gnome Applet RPMs for FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084994547.2820.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: Not sure if anyone is interested, but I managed to compile gnome-netstatus and netspeed applet rpms for fc2. http://uberh4x0r.org/~hoyhoy/rpms/fc2/gnome-netstatus-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm http://uberh4x0r.org/~hoyhoy/rpms/fc2/netspeed_applet-0.9.2-1.i386.rpm Enjoy, Tony http://www.involution.com From antitux at antitux.net Wed May 19 20:44:18 2004 From: antitux at antitux.net (John Dee) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:44:18 -0700 Subject: NetSpeed and NetStatus Gnome Applet RPMs for FC2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40ABC722.50208@antitux.net> vhost, kthx :P Tony Perrie wrote: > Not sure if anyone is interested, but I managed to compile gnome-netstatus > and netspeed applet rpms for fc2. > > http://uberh4x0r.org/~hoyhoy/rpms/fc2/gnome-netstatus-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm > http://uberh4x0r.org/~hoyhoy/rpms/fc2/netspeed_applet-0.9.2-1.i386.rpm > > Enjoy, > > Tony > http://www.involution.com > > > From jorton at redhat.com Wed May 19 20:51:05 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:51:05 +0100 Subject: Subversion 1.0.3 SECURITY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040519205105.GA15856@redhat.com> On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:53:57AM -0400, Neal D. Becker wrote: > In case you don't know, subversion released an important security fix today > (1.0.3) This was fixed in the 1.0.2-2.1 update issued today: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-May/msg00018.html joe From markmc at redhat.com Wed May 19 20:52:04 2004 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:52:04 +0100 Subject: NetSpeed and NetStatus Gnome Applet RPMs for FC2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1084999924.6031.83.camel@laptop> Hi, On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 21:03, Tony Perrie wrote: > Not sure if anyone is interested, but I managed to compile gnome-netstatus > and netspeed applet rpms for fc2. > > http://uberh4x0r.org/~hoyhoy/rpms/fc2/gnome-netstatus-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm You probably could have saved yourself the trouble and just used the gnome-netstatus package shipped with FC2 :-) Cheers, Mark. From rcavey at g0mos16.gsfcmo.ecs.nasa.gov Wed May 19 20:57:31 2004 From: rcavey at g0mos16.gsfcmo.ecs.nasa.gov (Robert Cavey) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:57:31 -0400 Subject: Kickstart problems in FC2 Message-ID: <1085000251.2037.12.camel@gsfcb.ecs.nasa.gov> Having problems building my kickstart disk in FC2. Used this exact same method with RH90 and was flawless. The scoop: Basically, I unpack the boot.iso from the images directory and modify the isolinux.cfg and change ks label to the following: <> label ks kernel vmlinuz append netmask=255.0.0.0 gateway=10.1.198.1 dns=10.1.198.31 ks=nfs:10.1.198.138:/data1/kickit/fc2ks.cfg ksdevice=eth0 initrd=initrd.img <> I then run mkisofs to rebuild to a .iso and burn to CD, boots up OK, at the boot prompt: boot: ks ip=10.1.198.105 Tries to boot and kernel panic ... DOH!!! <<> Kernel panic: Too many boot env vars at 'ip=10.1.198.105' In idle task - Not syncing <<>> If I just type "ks" anaconda tries to dhcp the nic card ... don't want that. Anyone know of a limit to the number of parameters or has the process changed with the 2.6 kernel? Thanks, Bob From tony at involution.com Wed May 19 21:06:18 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:06:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: NetSpeed and NetStatus Gnome Applet RPMs for FC2 In-Reply-To: <1084999924.6031.83.camel@laptop> Message-ID: Oh, I didn't even see it. Is there a reason NetSpeed isn't included? imho, netspeed > netstatus. Tony On Wed, 19 May 2004, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 21:03, Tony Perrie wrote: > > Not sure if anyone is interested, but I managed to compile gnome-netstatus > > and netspeed applet rpms for fc2. > > > > http://uberh4x0r.org/~hoyhoy/rpms/fc2/gnome-netstatus-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm > > You probably could have saved yourself the trouble and just used the > gnome-netstatus package shipped with FC2 :-) > > Cheers, > Mark. > > > -- From ccradu at yahoo.com Wed May 19 21:15:18 2004 From: ccradu at yahoo.com (Radu Cornea) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 14:15:18 -0700 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <1084994547.2820.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> <1084988391.2936.15.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <40ABA639.60600@yahoo.com> <1084994547.2820.1.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <40ABCE66.50305@yahoo.com> shmuel siegel wrote: > results seem a little bit worse. There is an added message that says > that the system thinks that I have 16 heads. And, BTW, partition magic > says that the geometry changed from 255 heads to 16 heads. > Same thing happened to me. The installer changed the head count for hda from 240 (that was initially for my hard disk) to 16, making the XP unbootable. I fixed it by changing the head count back to 240. I would say Partition Magic is right on this one. Even on the systems not affected by the bug, the 2.6 kernel reports strange values for the disk geometry. The message you are getting may be due to that. These are examples from FC2: $ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry physical 16383/16/63 logical 19841/16/63 On another FC2 machine: $ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry physical 16383/16/63 logical 16383/255/63 On a FC1 machine (2.4 kernel) the numbers are ok: $ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry physical 155009/16/63 logical 9726/255/63 The product C*H*S should be the same (or close at least)... From michal at harddata.com Wed May 19 21:22:14 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:22:14 -0600 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com>; from ccradu@yahoo.com on Wed, May 19, 2004 at 09:29:57AM -0700 References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040519152214.A8586@mail.harddata.com> On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 09:29:57AM -0700, Radu Cornea wrote: > > > If this helps to find the problem with the wrong geometry, even after > fixing the mbr, the kernel reports wrong geometry in > /proc/ide/hda/geometry. The problem is that there is no "wrong geometry". For quite a while these "geometries" are just inventions and illusions. Many years ago hard disks indeed had all these head and cylinder geometries, physical ones, but this is a bygone era. The trouble here is that here XP invents one geometry and your kernel another and XP refuses to work with what it decided it likes. Linux kernel is more forgiving than that and anaconda should just read what an existing partition table said and do not bother with any alerts. > If there is anything else I can do to help finding the > bug, please let me know. Strictly speaking the bug is on an XP side but you are not likely fare that well pursuing that. Michal From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Wed May 19 21:55:04 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 00:55:04 +0300 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <20040519152214.A8586@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> <20040519152214.A8586@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <1085003704.2820.13.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 00:22, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > The problem is that there is no "wrong geometry". For quite a while > these "geometries" are just inventions and illusions. Many years > ago hard disks indeed had all these head and cylinder geometries, > physical ones, but this is a bygone era. The trouble here is that > here XP invents one geometry and your kernel another and XP refuses > to work with what it decided it likes. Linux kernel is more > forgiving than that and anaconda should just read what an existing > partition table said and do not bother with any alerts. > Strictly speaking the bug is on an XP side but you are not likely > fare that well pursuing that. > > Michal > Assuming that win2k behaves the same as XP then I should be having trouble seeing my partitions on my second drive, but I don't. Since I am not booting off of that drive, the problem is more likely the boot loader, which I am not testing, than XP itself. Additionally, partition magic has detected that the geometry has changed so the geometry information was on the disk in the place that linux/grub changed it. Would you call it a bug in XP for not handling inconsistent information. After all it was apparently linux/grub that made it inconsistent. From tibbs at math.uh.edu Wed May 19 22:33:47 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 19 May 2004 17:33:47 -0500 Subject: Kickstart problems in FC2 In-Reply-To: <1085000251.2037.12.camel@gsfcb.ecs.nasa.gov> References: <1085000251.2037.12.camel@gsfcb.ecs.nasa.gov> Message-ID: >>>>> "RC" == Robert Cavey writes: RC> Anyone know of a limit to the number of parameters or has the RC> process changed with the 2.6 kernel? 2.4 kernel just ignored arguments past the limit. 2.6 panics instead, on the assumption that you would rather not have things continue ignoring your input. I believe the maximum number of boot env vars is eight; look for MAX_INIT_ENVS (should be in init/main.c) for the answer. It certainly seems to me that eight would be insufficient for this kind of thing, but it also doesn't look like you are using that many. You could try bumping the limit to 16 and trying again, but that requires building a new boot kernel which isn't exactly simple. I'm not even sure if I know how to do it myself. - J< From rngadam at yahoo.com Wed May 19 23:17:48 2004 From: rngadam at yahoo.com (Ricky Ng-Adam) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:17:48 -0400 Subject: First impressions FC2 final Message-ID: I downloaded FC2 final today thanks to Bittorrent/Azureus and a thousand seeds saturating my cable modem connection at 450KB/s. I'm actually writing this from my brand new Fedora Core install that is replacing my Mandrake Linux 10 Community. On the install, nothing much to say except that everything works as expected. I chose the default workstation install to see what it looked like. The graphic designers did an excellent job in my opinion. The install icons and the first boot configuration user interface are very slick and professionnal. The first hitch I encountered was after that: I tried logging in but my desktop refused to come up. I was pleasantly surprised that this problematic situation was detected and that I was offered a chance to have a look inside the .xsession-errors. The problem itself was rather simple: since I had kept my old Mandrake /home partition and the same username, the user and group ownership information was incorrect. I feel this could have been detected by the firstboot program and the permissions correctly changed. To solve this, I instead had to switch to the console and chown my home directory. Once the desktop came up, I found the background again quite attractive. However, no sound... It seems that my old SoundBlaster AWE32... I wasn't that surprised by it, it seems that my trusty sound card (that works in W2K without any hitch) is not recognized anymore by new kernels. I still find the panel oversized, twice the size of the W2K panel, but that's the way it is in the Linux world (KDE also likes to steal screen real estate).. Navigating the menus, I found them relatively well organized althought I think there is just too many items in some, such as Games. I feel the UI rule of thumb of 5-7 items per level in menus should be respected, especially when some of the games provided are substandard or require a not-very-often properly configured 3d card (TuxRacer). My next step was to launch the browser. As expected, my connection didn't work - I had noticed that the install program had decided to choose eth0 (a NIC that has no cable connected to it) instead of the more suitable eth1 (connected to my W2K bunch that uses ICS to share the Internet connection) as active per default. I went in Network to switch both and tell it to use DHCP eth1 instead of eth0. I restarted and tried again but no luck - it couldn't resolve hostname. After messing around, I finally found that I needed to activate the checkbox "Automatically obtain DNS Information from provider". I not sure why this wasn't done automatically, but at least now I was able to get on the net. My next step was to try to configure my network printer, an Okidata OL400e connected to again my W2K box. This is quite easy to do in Windows, but in this case FC2 found out that it didn't have the samba-client... I was a bit frustrated at this - this being a "Workstation" install, the kind we can expect in a corporate environment with probably lots of shared printers and file folders, this is required. Installing this was relatively easy. The Add/Remove Applications is nice enough and I decided to also add the System Applications. I also looked for a program to take screenshots, but was unable to find any... CD1, CD2 went ok but when it got to nmap on CD3, the install program was now telling me that it was "Unable to access disk". A trip to the console showed that the CD-ROM was indeed there and that the nmap rpm was there too. It also showed strange errors: --- UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/lowlevel.c:57:udf_get_last_session: XA disk: no, vol_desc_start=0 UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:1552:udf_fill_super: Multi-session=0 UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:540:udf_vrs: Starting at sector 16 (2048 byte sectors) UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:567:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Primary Volume Descriptor found UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:570:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Supplementary Volume Descriptor found UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:576:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Volume Descriptor Set Terminator found --- After a few tries, including putting it in my second CD-ROM (alas, the install program doesn't look there, I aborted. On reinstalling specifically nmap, I was able to get it thru. I don't really understand why it didn't work in the first run at it... Back to setting up my printer: I had to Specify the private IP of my W2K box and the name (couldn't browse it). I then had a limited choices of printer drivers, none immediatly fitting what I should choose for my Okidata, so I picked up Postscript driver and decided to look at this later. How about mounting a Windows share? I went to the desktop, selected My Computer, Network, Windows Share... Nothing. Not surprising, I haven't found any distros that made it easy. So another trip to console, switch to root and edit /etc/fstab to add the following //192.168.0.1/share /mnt/smb smbfs username=rngadam,password=******,uid=rngadam,gid=rngadam 0 0 I mounted it, cd'ed to the directory and did a ls that did not immediately return as expected... So I continued writing this, but after a while, I noticed that my desktop icons had disappeared and my console locked up. After trying a few things including switching to console as root and killing the smbmount process, I gave up and rebooted. After reboot, everything worked again, including the Windows share mount! I then tried playing a few media files, but no success. Even a pretty basic MPEG2 video file has "No action associated to it"; Not exactly a multimedia powerhouse. Apart from the install itself I would qualify my first 3 hours with it as bitter because it did not make things that should be simple, easy. At least not easier then before. Of course, I can debug the problems by frequent trips to the console as root as I usually do in all my Linux installs but I would certainly not recommend it to any newbie without some hand holding from me for a day to setup everything. Many things I wish for, such as an easy way to switch to other input method (such as Chinese or Japanese) are not there yet. I believe the Sun Java Desktop now offers this, so there is hope... Fedora Core 2's Workstation install has basic things I want missing (such as the samba-client). It doesn't cooperate well with Windows. And the kernel still locks up at boot when I try to install it on my Thinkpad A22m notebook making testing in a much more challenging hardware environment impossible. However, I'm sure that with all the hard work the community is doing, Fedora Core 3 will be quite interesting... From ccradu at yahoo.com Wed May 19 23:25:05 2004 From: ccradu at yahoo.com (Radu Cornea) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:25:05 -0700 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <20040519152214.A8586@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> <20040519152214.A8586@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: <40ABECD1.5090601@yahoo.com> Michal Jaegermann wrote: > The problem is that there is no "wrong geometry". For quite a while > these "geometries" are just inventions and illusions. Many years > ago hard disks indeed had all these head and cylinder geometries, > physical ones, but this is a bygone era. The trouble here is that > here XP invents one geometry and your kernel another and XP refuses > to work with what it decided it likes. Linux kernel is more > forgiving than that and anaconda should just read what an existing > partition table said and do not bother with any alerts. > Well, not exactly. What I call "wrong geometry" is when the two values (physical and logical) don't match. I know the same disk can be seen as having different geometries (e.g. 16 heads vs 255) but in the final C*H*S should be the same. As I mentioned in another post I get very different values from the 2.6 kernel, while 2.4 returns the correct ones: These are examples from FC2: $ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry physical 16383/16/63 logical 19841/16/63 On another FC2 machine: $ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry physical 16383/16/63 logical 16383/255/63 On a FC1 machine (2.4 kernel) the numbers are ok: $ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry physical 155009/16/63 logical 9726/255/63 The product C*H*S should be the same (or close at least)... But they are different (even for the same OS, not even talking about XP here). > Strictly speaking the bug is on an XP side but you are not likely > fare that well pursuing that. I agree this may be fixed on the XP side too. But still the installer has a problem. Why will it otherwise offer without any warning to change the mbr, when I did not select any partitioning and I chose to put Grub in the Linux partition. This reminds me of another OS (guess:)) which overwrites mbr on install again without asking. Plus, there are report on bugzilla of people that did run partition magic after installing FC2 and got a lot of errors (mismatch) in the partition table. From the fdisk manual, the mbr stores the info in two ways: as an absolute number of sectors and as C/H/S. Windows uses both, while Linux never uses C/H/S. That's why I think Linux can still boot, and Windows not. Only C/H/S are changed during installation. That's why it is also possible to restore the original aprtition table. Fedora 2 is not the only one affected by it, but also Mandrake 10 and Suse 9.1. See: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7959 http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1585840,00.asp So far this post by Alan Cox seems to be the best explanation why this problem occurs with 2.6 kernels: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=113201#c13 "This seems to be a bug in the FC2 tools. The Linux kernel no longer does partition guessing (its a heuristic and policy at best), as a result the parted tools should be honouring existing partition table claims when they are present. Failure to do so causes very bad things to happen. Previously these situations the kernel itself would report the partition table or BIOS guess it made, now its firmly in userspace." -- Radu From alan at redhat.com Wed May 19 23:29:16 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:29:16 -0400 Subject: First impressions FC2 final In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040519232916.GB13693@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 07:17:48PM -0400, Ricky Ng-Adam wrote: > Once the desktop came up, I found the background again quite attractive. > However, no sound... It seems that my old SoundBlaster AWE32... I > wasn't that surprised by it, it seems that my trusty sound card (that > works in W2K without any hitch) is not recognized anymore by new kernels. It isnt autoconfigured for ISA devices any more, but should work if you sent ALSA up by hand. (I'm of the opinion isapnp audio ought to be autoconfigured tho) > I still find the panel oversized, twice the size of the W2K > panel, but that's the way it is in the Linux world (KDE also likes to Right click on panel, properties, size .. adjust to taste. > I went in Network to switch both and tell it to use DHCP eth1 instead of > eth0. I restarted and tried again but no luck - it couldn't resolve > hostname. After messing around, I finally found that I needed to > activate the checkbox "Automatically obtain DNS Information from > provider". I not sure why this wasn't done automatically, but at least > now I was able to get on the net. Probably should be the default way around (you might want to bugzilla this as an enhancement) > My next step was to try to configure my network printer, an Okidata > OL400e connected to again my W2K box. This is quite easy to do in > Windows, but in this case FC2 found out that it didn't have the > samba-client... I was a bit frustrated at this - this being a > "Workstation" install, the kind we can expect in a corporate environment > with probably lots of shared printers and file folders, this is required. Ditto.. > UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:567:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Primary Volume > Descriptor found > UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:570:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Supplementary Volume > Descriptor found > UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:576:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Volume Descriptor Set > Terminator found This isjust information noise rather than errors. > How about mounting a Windows share? I went to the desktop, selected My > Computer, Network, Windows Share... Nothing. Not surprising, I haven't > found any distros that made it easy. So another trip to console, switch > to root and edit /etc/fstab to add the following At the moment there is a knwon bug with browsing shares - even with the firewall disabled. Nautilus appears unable to see stuff except by ip. > I then tried playing a few media files, but no success. Even a pretty > basic MPEG2 video file has "No action associated to it"; Not exactly a > multimedia powerhouse. mpeg2 requires US patents. If you are not in the USA you can download mpeg2 players like totem from livna.org > And the kernel still locks up at boot when I try to install it on my > Thinkpad A22m notebook making testing in a much more challenging > hardware environment impossible. Does this occur with acpi=off too ? > However, I'm sure that with all the hard work the community is doing, > Fedora Core 3 will be quite interesting... Please stick all this stuff in bugzilla, its clear, its to the point and it would be a shame if two weeks on we've all forgotten about it Alan From wtogami at redhat.com Wed May 19 23:41:53 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:41:53 -1000 Subject: First impressions FC2 final In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40ABF0C1.5010800@redhat.com> Ricky Ng-Adam wrote: > How about mounting a Windows share? I went to the desktop, selected My > Computer, Network, Windows Share... Nothing. Not surprising, I haven't > found any distros that made it easy. So another trip to console, switch > to root and edit /etc/fstab to add the following This works for me, but I think the nautilus or kfmclient browsing of windows shares has nothing to do with the kernel network filesystem support. Somebody else should clarify this for me though. > > //192.168.0.1/share /mnt/smb smbfs > username=rngadam,password=******,uid=rngadam,gid=rngadam 0 0 > > I mounted it, cd'ed to the directory and did a ls that did not > immediately return as expected... So I continued writing this, but after > a while, I noticed that my desktop icons had disappeared and my console > locked up. After trying a few things including switching to console as > root and killing the smbmount process, I gave up and rebooted. After > reboot, everything worked again, including the Windows share mount! http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/ Try the newer test kernels from here. They have some confirmed smbfs and cifs network filesystem fixes. The upstream kernels are getting better in this regard, but your reports and followups are needed to make the community process work. http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2727 One cifs bug from yesterday. Unrelated to your problems but just an example of the process working. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From bking at optusnet.com.au Wed May 19 23:49:49 2004 From: bking at optusnet.com.au (Brad) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:49:49 +1000 (EST) Subject: NFS install Message-ID: Hi, I cannot seem to locate images to create boot floppies for FC2 so I can install via NFS. Dont currently have a burner that works and have mounted the ISO on a current redhat system. Can I use the images FC1 for this? Brad From greg-miller at shaw.ca Wed May 19 23:43:24 2004 From: greg-miller at shaw.ca (Greg Miller) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:43:24 -0600 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem Message-ID: It looks like I may have a similar but different problem. I wiped FC2test3 and winXP. I then re-installed XP (to solve other problems), then re-installed FC2. It looks like GRUB is screwed up and can not boot linux, but Win XP boots fine. I get an error message that indicates it can't find the partition abd to press a key to continue. The screen is barely readable and I can just select other to go to the XP/dos boot selection. I'm thinking I need to re-install grub from a rescue boot. AMD3200 K8T800 chipset SATA drive Radeon 9200 Video Greg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Radu Cornea Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:25 pm Subject: Re: Fix for the XP dual boot problem > Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > The problem is that there is no "wrong geometry". For quite a while > > these "geometries" are just inventions and illusions. Many years > > ago hard disks indeed had all these head and cylinder geometries, > > physical ones, but this is a bygone era. The trouble here is that > > here XP invents one geometry and your kernel another and XP refuses > > to work with what it decided it likes. Linux kernel is more > > forgiving than that and anaconda should just read what an existing > > partition table said and do not bother with any alerts. > > > > Well, not exactly. What I call "wrong geometry" is when the two > values > (physical and logical) don't match. I know the same disk can be > seen as > having different geometries (e.g. 16 heads vs 255) but in the > final > C*H*S should be the same. As I mentioned in another post I get > very > different values from the 2.6 kernel, while 2.4 returns the > correct ones: > > These are examples from FC2: > $ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry > physical 16383/16/63 > logical 19841/16/63 > > On another FC2 machine: > $ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry > physical 16383/16/63 > logical 16383/255/63 > > On a FC1 machine (2.4 kernel) the numbers are ok: > $ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry > physical 155009/16/63 > logical 9726/255/63 > > The product C*H*S should be the same (or close at least)... > But they are different (even for the same OS, not even talking > about XP > here). > > > Strictly speaking the bug is on an XP side but you are not likely > > fare that well pursuing that. > > I agree this may be fixed on the XP side too. But still the > installer > has a problem. Why will it otherwise offer without any warning to > change > the mbr, when I did not select any partitioning and I chose to put > Grub > in the Linux partition. This reminds me of another OS (guess:)) > which > overwrites mbr on install again without asking. > Plus, there are report on bugzilla of people that did run > partition > magic after installing FC2 and got a lot of errors (mismatch) in > the > partition table. > From the fdisk manual, the mbr stores the info in two ways: as an > absolute number of sectors and as C/H/S. Windows uses both, while > Linux > never uses C/H/S. That's why I think Linux can still boot, and > Windows > not. Only C/H/S are changed during installation. That's why it is > also > possible to restore the original aprtition table. > Fedora 2 is not the only one affected by it, but also Mandrake 10 > and > Suse 9.1. See: > > https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7959 > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1585840,00.asp > > So far this post by Alan Cox seems to be the best explanation why > this > problem occurs with 2.6 kernels: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=113201#c13 > > "This seems to be a bug in the FC2 tools. The Linux kernel no longer > does partition guessing (its a heuristic and policy at best), as a > result the parted tools should be honouring existing partition table > claims when they are present. Failure to do so causes very bad things > to happen. > > Previously these situations the kernel itself would report the > partition table or BIOS guess it made, now its firmly in userspace." > > > -- > Radu > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 20 00:19:54 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:19:54 -0500 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40ABF9AA.5070501@earthlink.net> Greg Miller wrote: > It looks like I may have a similar but different problem. > > I wiped FC2test3 and winXP. I then re-installed XP (to solve other problems), then re-installed FC2. It looks like GRUB is screwed up and can not boot linux, but Win XP boots fine. I get an error message that indicates it can't find the partition abd to press a key to continue. The screen is barely readable and I can just select other to go to the XP/dos boot selection. > > I'm thinking I need to re-install grub from a rescue boot. > > AMD3200 > K8T800 chipset > SATA drive > Radeon 9200 Video > > Greg. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Radu Cornea > Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:25 pm > Subject: Re: Fix for the XP dual boot problem > > >>Michal Jaegermann wrote: >> >> >>>The problem is that there is no "wrong geometry". For quite a while >>>these "geometries" are just inventions and illusions. Many years >>>ago hard disks indeed had all these head and cylinder geometries, >>>physical ones, but this is a bygone era. The trouble here is that >>>here XP invents one geometry and your kernel another and XP refuses >>>to work with what it decided it likes. Linux kernel is more >>>forgiving than that and anaconda should just read what an existing >>>partition table said and do not bother with any alerts. >>> >> >>Well, not exactly. What I call "wrong geometry" is when the two >>values >>(physical and logical) don't match. I know the same disk can be >>seen as >>having different geometries (e.g. 16 heads vs 255) but in the >>final >>C*H*S should be the same. As I mentioned in another post I get >>very >>different values from the 2.6 kernel, while 2.4 returns the >>correct ones: >> >>These are examples from FC2: >>$ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry >>physical 16383/16/63 >>logical 19841/16/63 >> >>On another FC2 machine: >>$ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry >>physical 16383/16/63 >>logical 16383/255/63 >> >>On a FC1 machine (2.4 kernel) the numbers are ok: >>$ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry >>physical 155009/16/63 >>logical 9726/255/63 >> >>The product C*H*S should be the same (or close at least)... >>But they are different (even for the same OS, not even talking >>about XP >>here). >> >> >>>Strictly speaking the bug is on an XP side but you are not likely >>>fare that well pursuing that. >> >>I agree this may be fixed on the XP side too. But still the >>installer >>has a problem. Why will it otherwise offer without any warning to >>change >>the mbr, when I did not select any partitioning and I chose to put >>Grub >>in the Linux partition. This reminds me of another OS (guess:)) >>which >>overwrites mbr on install again without asking. >>Plus, there are report on bugzilla of people that did run >>partition >>magic after installing FC2 and got a lot of errors (mismatch) in >>the >>partition table. >>From the fdisk manual, the mbr stores the info in two ways: as an >>absolute number of sectors and as C/H/S. Windows uses both, while >>Linux >>never uses C/H/S. That's why I think Linux can still boot, and >>Windows >>not. Only C/H/S are changed during installation. That's why it is >>also >>possible to restore the original aprtition table. >>Fedora 2 is not the only one affected by it, but also Mandrake 10 >>and >>Suse 9.1. See: >> >>https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7959 >>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1585840,00.asp >> >>So far this post by Alan Cox seems to be the best explanation why >>this >>problem occurs with 2.6 kernels: >> >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=113201#c13 >> >>"This seems to be a bug in the FC2 tools. The Linux kernel no longer >>does partition guessing (its a heuristic and policy at best), as a >>result the parted tools should be honouring existing partition table >>claims when they are present. Failure to do so causes very bad things >>to happen. >> >>Previously these situations the kernel itself would report the >>partition table or BIOS guess it made, now its firmly in userspace." >> >> >>-- >>Radu >> >> >>-- >>fedora-test-list mailing list >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com >>To unsubscribe: >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >> > > > I had a similar thing happen and discovered with fdisk that the partition it couldn't find was now labled as type 93 (amoeba) instead of 83 (linux). Check it out. I was able to correct it with the t command in fdisk. Gerry Tool From hans.engelen at pandora.be Thu May 20 00:10:19 2004 From: hans.engelen at pandora.be (Hans Engelen) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 02:10:19 +0200 Subject: Token Ring driver not compiled in FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040517174705.GB22919@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084814174.17399.10.camel@jsavoy.raleigh.ibm.com> <20040517174705.GB22919@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405200210.21659.hans.engelen@pandora.be> On Monday 17 May 2004 19:47, Alan Cox wrote: > If token ring is disabled entirely then you will inevitably get different > symbols so may need to roll a new kernel anyway. Knowing if token ring > builds and works on FC2 would be useful for errata stuff. Right now it > seems the only large token ring network on the planet (and the one that > breaks stuff reliabily and rapidly) belongs to a large blue company. > > Alan Now now Alan, play nice with the Men in Blue ... Before one of them takes out his 'Noisy (IBM) Cricket(stick)' and blasts you. From greg-miller at shaw.ca Thu May 20 00:33:04 2004 From: greg-miller at shaw.ca (Greg Miller) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 18:33:04 -0600 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem Message-ID: Well I was able to fix the problem by simply editing the grub.conf in rescue mode. For some reason it was looking for hd(1,6) instead od hd(0,6). I assume that is because I changed the installetion from hda to hde because I am booting from an sata drive. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerry Tool Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:19 pm Subject: Re: Fix for the XP dual boot problem > Greg Miller wrote: > > It looks like I may have a similar but different problem. > > > > I wiped FC2test3 and winXP. I then re-installed XP (to solve > other problems), then re-installed FC2. It looks like GRUB is > screwed up and can not boot linux, but Win XP boots fine. I get an > error message that indicates it can't find the partition abd to > press a key to continue. The screen is barely readable and I can > just select other to go to the XP/dos boot selection. > > > > I'm thinking I need to re-install grub from a rescue boot. > > > > AMD3200 > > K8T800 chipset > > SATA drive > > Radeon 9200 Video > > > > Greg. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Radu Cornea > > Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:25 pm > > Subject: Re: Fix for the XP dual boot problem > > > > > >>Michal Jaegermann wrote: > >> > >> > >>>The problem is that there is no "wrong geometry". For quite a > while>>>these "geometries" are just inventions and illusions. Many > years>>>ago hard disks indeed had all these head and cylinder > geometries,>>>physical ones, but this is a bygone era. The trouble > here is that > >>>here XP invents one geometry and your kernel another and XP refuses > >>>to work with what it decided it likes. Linux kernel is more > >>>forgiving than that and anaconda should just read what an existing > >>>partition table said and do not bother with any alerts. > >>> > >> > >>Well, not exactly. What I call "wrong geometry" is when the two > >>values > >>(physical and logical) don't match. I know the same disk can be > >>seen as > >>having different geometries (e.g. 16 heads vs 255) but in the > >>final > >>C*H*S should be the same. As I mentioned in another post I get > >>very > >>different values from the 2.6 kernel, while 2.4 returns the > >>correct ones: > >> > >>These are examples from FC2: > >>$ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry > >>physical 16383/16/63 > >>logical 19841/16/63 > >> > >>On another FC2 machine: > >>$ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry > >>physical 16383/16/63 > >>logical 16383/255/63 > >> > >>On a FC1 machine (2.4 kernel) the numbers are ok: > >>$ more /proc/ide/hda/geometry > >>physical 155009/16/63 > >>logical 9726/255/63 > >> > >>The product C*H*S should be the same (or close at least)... > >>But they are different (even for the same OS, not even talking > >>about XP > >>here). > >> > >> > >>>Strictly speaking the bug is on an XP side but you are not likely > >>>fare that well pursuing that. > >> > >>I agree this may be fixed on the XP side too. But still the > >>installer > >>has a problem. Why will it otherwise offer without any warning to > >>change > >>the mbr, when I did not select any partitioning and I chose to > put > >>Grub > >>in the Linux partition. This reminds me of another OS (guess:)) > >>which > >>overwrites mbr on install again without asking. > >>Plus, there are report on bugzilla of people that did run > >>partition > >>magic after installing FC2 and got a lot of errors (mismatch) in > >>the > >>partition table. > >>From the fdisk manual, the mbr stores the info in two ways: as an > >>absolute number of sectors and as C/H/S. Windows uses both, while > >>Linux > >>never uses C/H/S. That's why I think Linux can still boot, and > >>Windows > >>not. Only C/H/S are changed during installation. That's why it is > >>also > >>possible to restore the original aprtition table. > >>Fedora 2 is not the only one affected by it, but also Mandrake 10 > >>and > >>Suse 9.1. See: > >> > >>https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7959 > >>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1585840,00.asp > >> > >>So far this post by Alan Cox seems to be the best explanation why > >>this > >>problem occurs with 2.6 kernels: > >> > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=113201#c13 > >> > >>"This seems to be a bug in the FC2 tools. The Linux kernel no longer > >>does partition guessing (its a heuristic and policy at best), as a > >>result the parted tools should be honouring existing partition > table>>claims when they are present. Failure to do so causes very > bad things > >>to happen. > >> > >>Previously these situations the kernel itself would report the > >>partition table or BIOS guess it made, now its firmly in userspace." > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Radu > >> > >> > >>-- > >>fedora-test-list mailing list > >>fedora-test-list at redhat.com > >>To unsubscribe: > >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > >> > > > > > > > I had a similar thing happen and discovered with fdisk that the > partition it couldn't find was now labled as type 93 (amoeba) > instead of > 83 (linux). Check it out. I was able to correct it with the t > command > in fdisk. > > Gerry Tool > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Thu May 20 00:31:27 2004 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:31:27 +1000 Subject: FC2 automounter differences (hesitant to call them bugs.) Message-ID: Scenario is a solaris yp master that serves up yp maps. PROBLEM 1. I have direct mounts specified in the auto_master file on solaris as specified by the first line below. Direct mounts are a sun specific add-on, and while I am moving away from them, FC1 did not cause me any trouble. FC2 is trying to do something with them. I think all of my direct mounts are under /usr and what is now happening is that FC2 automounter is taking over /usr as a mount point and there is basically an empty /usr because of this. This causes a bit of havoc. Removing the first line fixes the problem. Auto_master #Mount-point Map Mount-options /- auto_direct -rw,intr /home auto_home -rw,intr,nobrowse /data auto_data -rw,intr,nobrowse /apps auto_apps -rw,intr /net -hosts Example line from auto_direct. /usr/corel server:/export/site/apps/corel PROBLEM 2. The nobrowse option causes all the mounts under /data and /apps (as shown above) to fail. Removing the nobrowse option allows them to work. Is this the way automount is supposed to work or is it a bug(s) I need to file? From tmolina at cablespeed.com Thu May 20 01:43:03 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: How to help? was Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18 In-Reply-To: <40A9E672.4060002@pearldoc.com> References: <1084800420.3799.3.camel@Basanizo> <2754.206.37.198.82.1084816768.squirrel@206.37.198.82> <40A9E672.4060002@pearldoc.com> Message-ID: > Mhh and if you don't have a diskdrive ? Maybe you should explain howto > make a bootable CD ;) After the system is up you can visit this site: http://syslinux.zytor.com/index.php From ml at mutox.org Thu May 20 01:55:43 2004 From: ml at mutox.org (Dan) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:55:43 +1000 Subject: FC2 automounter differences (hesitant to call them bugs.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085018142.24396.10.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> I also noticed the changes and i checking out the autofs docs. With regards to your problem 1, I think its a known issue. Check out /usr/share/doc/autofs-4.1.2/README.direct NOTE: Due to current design limitations, direct maps will take over an entire directory hierarchy. What this means is, if your direct map key is /usr/share/bilbo, then /usr will become an automount mount point, mounting over the existing /usr. On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 10:31, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au > Scenario is a solaris yp master that serves up yp maps. > > PROBLEM 1. > I have direct mounts specified in the auto_master file on solaris as > specified by the first line below. Direct mounts are a sun specific > add-on, and while I am moving away from them, FC1 did not cause me any > trouble. FC2 is trying to do something with them. I think all of my > direct mounts are under /usr and what is now happening is that FC2 > automounter is taking over /usr as a mount point and there is basically > an empty /usr because of this. This causes a bit of havoc. Removing the > first line fixes the problem. > > Auto_master > #Mount-point Map Mount-options > /- auto_direct -rw,intr > /home auto_home -rw,intr,nobrowse > /data auto_data -rw,intr,nobrowse > /apps auto_apps -rw,intr > /net -hosts > > Example line from auto_direct. > > /usr/corel server:/export/site/apps/corel > > PROBLEM 2. > The nobrowse option causes all the mounts under /data and /apps (as > shown above) to fail. Removing the nobrowse option allows them to work. > > Is this the way automount is supposed to work or is it a bug(s) I need > to file? > From pza at pza.net.au Thu May 20 02:44:15 2004 From: pza at pza.net.au (Phil Anderson) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:44:15 +1000 Subject: First impressions FC2 final Message-ID: <1085021055.21484.2.camel@hallucination.pza.net.au> Alan Cox wrote: > > I went in Network to switch both and tell it to use DHCP eth1 instead of > > eth0. I restarted and tried again but no luck - it couldn't resolve > > hostname. After messing around, I finally found that I needed to > > activate the checkbox "Automatically obtain DNS Information from > > provider". I not sure why this wasn't done automatically, but at least > > now I was able to get on the net. > > Probably should be the default way around (you might want to bugzilla > this as an enhancement) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122846 From ernesto at ornl.gov Thu May 20 03:32:33 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:32:33 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora Message-ID: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> Hi, Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) Why is the default US.UTF-8? Thanks, -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Thu May 20 04:03:27 2004 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:03:27 +1000 Subject: Strange X behaviour with FC2 Message-ID: During install I get a blank (black) screen with my ASUS TI4200 Nvidia card. I do a text install to get around this. The card, monitor and mouse are detected properly. After the install the X screen comes up but is just a series of vertical cyan coloued bars. If I log in on the text console and do an init 3 and then an init 5 I get the normal graphical login screen you would expect. The same behaviour occurs if I install the nvidia driver. I wonder if the order of service startups needs to change? From jmorris at beau.org Thu May 20 04:01:52 2004 From: jmorris at beau.org (John Morris) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:01:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 May 2004, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in > Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) > > Why is the default US.UTF-8? Because RH is hellbent on making Unicode the standard encoding. Like their previous attempts at getting out in front of an emerging standard it tends to break a lot of things. But because it is breaking in such a high profile distro it gets fixed. See GCC, GLIBC, ELF, pthreads, SELinux, etc. In the end it is going to be a good thing if you live outside the US or are RedHat and want to sell products and services outside the US. But for now expect to do a lot of "LANG=C " to workaround the problems or edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From mattdm at mattdm.org Thu May 20 05:18:01 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 01:18:01 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <20040520051801.GA15932@jadzia.bu.edu> On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 11:32:33PM -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in > Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) > Why is the default US.UTF-8? UTF-8 is, despite the growing pains, the right thing to do for the world. There's a lot of character sets out there, and this makes them Just Work. Take a look at Fedora/base/comps.xml in the Fedora install tree (on the CD or download it from the FTP site) with `more` -- look at all of the different international characters happily mingling. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From seanlkml at rogers.com Wed May 19 21:32:56 2004 From: seanlkml at rogers.com (Sean Estabrooks) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:32:56 -0400 Subject: Fix for the XP dual boot problem In-Reply-To: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040519173256.053f0784.seanlkml@rogers.com> On Wed, 19 May 2004 09:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Radu Cornea wrote: > --- Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > > /me assumes it would be possible to automate the fix up of the > > partition table with creative use of: > > > > sfdisk -d | sfdisk -C# -H# -S# > > > You are right, that is a way better solution. I wasn't aware of the > sfdisk utility before. > > I tried to recreate the bad partition problem again (from the saved mbr > sector), made sure XP wasn't booting any more and then I run in Linux: > > sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk --no-reread -H240 /dev/hda > > This seems to have fixed it just like my original procedure (well much > easier :) ). I even did a byte compare of the mbr with the one I restored > before using those long steps and they are the same. > > Plus, I did not have to run 'fdisk /mbr' from DOS any more (I guess the > sfdisk utility just changes the values not the rest of signatures etc). > So this looke like the best solution to fix the problem so far. > > If this helps to find the problem with the wrong geometry, even after > fixing the mbr, the kernel reports wrong geometry in > /proc/ide/hda/geometry. My laptop is a IBM Thinkpad 600, so it probably > has an older BIOS. If there is anything else I can do to help finding the > bug, please let me know. > > Radu > Glad to hear that works too. So it's very easy for someone to fix if they happen to have this problem. So it's really no big deal. This was what my little script did too except it used the -N option of sfdisk to restrict the change to just the Windows partition as it's only Windows that seems to care. It would be nice if the installer always protected the values of partitions it doesn't create. Cheers, Sean. From reg at dwf.com Thu May 20 06:37:50 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 00:37:50 -0600 Subject: Fedora2 confused about SATA drives. Message-ID: <200405200637.i4K6boeJ003610@orion.dwf.com> Ive been making SLOW progress on getting Fedora2 up on a friends box with 4GB of memory and 2 SATA drives. I still have no explanation as to why Fedora (and memtest86, and everything else I have tried) only sees 2.792GB of memory when loaded on this Intel D875PBZ motherboard and a 3.2GHz Processor and 4x 1GB of memory. --- After installing Fedora2 and trying to boot, you only get as far as "GRUB Loading stage2.." tho there was no such problem with Fedora2test3 (sigh) I can get Fedora up using GRUB on a floppy, but dont seem to be able to solve the above problem. Id blame it on SATA if it wasnt that it 'worked before with FC2t3'. --- Fedora is confused by SATA drives. On the GRUB line (and grub.conf) you have to identify them as /dev/hda1 But in the /etc/fstab, and on mount commands as /dev/sda1... Grump. --- For reference, it intstalls on my older machine just fine. So much for the Bleading edge. Guess Ill play more in the morning. --- Any comments (or help!) with any of the above would be appreciated. -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From alan at redhat.com Thu May 20 07:35:40 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 03:35:40 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <20040520073540.GA11086@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 11:32:33PM -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in > Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) > > Why is the default US.UTF-8? UTF-8 (or other Unicode forms) have been the norm for computing since the late 1990's. It means you can handle foreign language files, file names and the like. Acrobat reader and its problems with utf-8 have been reported to them for several years now. xpdf and gpdf don't have this problem. From alan at redhat.com Thu May 20 07:39:04 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 03:39:04 -0400 Subject: Fedora2 confused about SATA drives. In-Reply-To: <200405200637.i4K6boeJ003610@orion.dwf.com> References: <200405200637.i4K6boeJ003610@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <20040520073904.GB11086@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 12:37:50AM -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > I still have no explanation as to why Fedora (and memtest86, > and everything else I have tried) only sees 2.792GB of memory > when loaded on this Intel D875PBZ motherboard and a 3.2GHz > Processor and 4x 1GB of memory. Presumably because that is what the BIOS reports to everyone. > Fedora is confused by SATA drives. > On the GRUB line (and grub.conf) you have to identify them as /dev/hda1 > But in the /etc/fstab, and on mount commands as /dev/sda1... Which grub line is this ? From douglas.furlong at firebox.com Thu May 20 08:06:34 2004 From: douglas.furlong at firebox.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:06:34 +0100 Subject: NFS install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085040394.10346.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 00:49, Brad wrote: > Hi, > > I cannot seem to locate images to create boot floppies for FC2 so I can > install via NFS. Dont currently have a burner that works and have mounted > the ISO on a current redhat system. > > Can I use the images FC1 for this? > > Brad As far as I am aware there are no boot floppies any more due to the size of the kernel now exceeding the size of the floppies. One method that has been used in the past to try and over come this issue, is to copy the relevant files to /boot and then create a grub entry to boot from the specified kernel, then continue to do a network install. If you search the archives you should be able to find the information fairy quickly. Doug From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Thu May 20 09:56:50 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:56:50 +0800 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085047010.25867.12.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 12:01, John Morris wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 2004, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in > > Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) > > > > Why is the default US.UTF-8? > > Because RH is hellbent on making Unicode the standard encoding. Like > their previous attempts at getting out in front of an emerging standard it > tends to break a lot of things. But because it is breaking in such a high > profile distro it gets fixed. See GCC, GLIBC, ELF, pthreads, SELinux, > etc. > > In the end it is going to be a good thing if you live outside the US or > are RedHat and want to sell products and services outside the US. But for > now expect to do a lot of "LANG=C " to workaround the > problems or edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n. Don't forget to search for/file a bugzilla for every "LANG=C " you issue if you want it fixed, too. (Don't bother with acroread though, not our code). -- Chris Kloiber From polve at polve.com Thu May 20 10:13:00 2004 From: polve at polve.com (Polve) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:13:00 +0200 Subject: FC2 problems on install from CD-ROM Message-ID: <40AC84AC.3080602@polve.com> Hello, I've found a big problem installing FC2 on my pc... I've donwloaded the iso images and burned with cdrecord as usual, but it doesn't install. It cannot identify the cd image in the cd-rom so cannot mount /dev/cdrom ... Here is the detailed steps i've done: (the iso images are burned with cdrecord) - boot from fc2 disc 1 is regular - i've press Enter to install in graphical mode - choose a language: english - what type of keyboard do you have: us - Installation method: Local CDROM - here is the problem: CD NOT FOUND: the fedora core cd was not found in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert (?!?!) the fedora core CD and press OK to retry. ...but the fedora core CD is inserted in the cdrom drive... bah now the Alt+F3 command's shell: ... trying to mount CD device hdd nntloop loop0 on /mnt/runtime as /mnt/source/Fedora/base/stage2.img fd is 13 failed to mount loop: Invalid argument ...and now the Alt+F4 shell: ... <7> ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet level 3 <4> unable to load NLS charset utf8 <4> unable to load NLS charset utf8 <7> ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A <4> Unable to idetify CD-ROM format. <4> VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev loop0 <3> cramfs: wrong magic My hw is: m/b Asus a7n266 with 256 mb ram Duron 1300 Mhz cdrom Creative cd 2422E and dvd rom LG DRD 8120 B I've also try to use the command "linux allowcddma" at boot but the song remain the same... p.s. the same machine isntalls and boots regulary with fc1 fc2test1 test2 and test3... Andrea -- Polve AMC Team - From the piana ------------------------------------------ Ci sono 10 categorie di persone al mondo: quelle che capiscono il sistema binario e quelle che non lo capiscono. From ms52 at st-andrews.ac.uk Thu May 20 10:21:53 2004 From: ms52 at st-andrews.ac.uk (Micha Schoell) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:21:53 +0100 Subject: kxkb, keyboard layout doesn't work, FC2 In-Reply-To: <40AB9E90.8020004@mail.ru> References: <20040519162957.56988.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> <40AB9508.20009@yahoo.com> <40AB9E90.8020004@mail.ru> Message-ID: <200405201121.53465.ms52@st-andrews.ac.uk> On Wednesday 19 May 2004 18:51, Yarchyk:-) wrote: > I've just noticed, that when I tried to switch keybord layout, it > doesn't work in whole. > I'm using KDE. I tried to set it up in kcontrol (KDE control center), > but control center showed me that I have no available layouts, but > before I've installed german and spanish and ukrainian support packages > for KDE! > When I start xkdb I cannt see any flags shows the actual state of my > keyboard. With shortcut keys the same story- ctrl-alt-k gives nothing. > > Any ideas? > > > Yarema Search the history, this problem is known and an error in kde etc. They hardlinked the keyboard rules to xfree86. You have to link some files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules by hand my ls -hl /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules looks the following - the xfree86* -> xorg is the important bit -r--r--r-- 1 root root 110 May 7 16:29 README -r--r--r-- 1 root root 3.1K May 7 16:29 sgi -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2.5K May 7 16:29 sgi.lst -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1.7K May 7 16:29 sun -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1.8K May 7 16:29 sun.lst lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 May 10 10:52 xfree86 -> xorg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May 9 13:06 xfree86-it.lst -> xorg-it.lst lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 9 13:06 xfree86.lst -> xorg.lst lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 9 13:07 xfree86.xml -> xorg.xml -r--r--r-- 1 root root 6.4K May 7 16:29 xorg -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1.5K May 7 16:29 xorg-it.lst -r--r--r-- 1 root root 8.7K May 7 16:29 xorg.lst -r--r--r-- 1 root root 324K May 7 16:29 xorg.xml HTH, Micha -- Micha Schoell | ms52 at st-andrews.ac.uk | +44 1334 46 3720 | Math:R118 "Everyone should be respected as an individual, but no one idolized." - Albert Einstein From MichaelBoord at yahoo.co.uk Thu May 20 11:01:19 2004 From: MichaelBoord at yahoo.co.uk (Michael Boord) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:01:19 +0200 Subject: howto get to FC2 from FC2 test 3 Message-ID: Hi, I just installed Fedora Core 2 Test 3 last week. Spend 3 days configuring it exactly as i want since it's being used mainly as firewall/nat router. Now i see FC 2 made final..... Any easy ways to get up to date to the final version without reinstalling completely from cd's ? The box hasnt even got a monitor attached so i dont use KDE at all. I see yum is still getting updates... 05/18/04 05:37:39 Updated: kdelibs 6:3.1.4-5.i386 05/18/04 15:27:24 Installed: cksfv 1.3-0.fdr.2.1.i386 05/20/04 05:30:12 Updated: gaim 1:0.77-2.FC1.i386 05/20/04 05:30:12 Updated: cvs 1.11.15-5.i386 So isn't there is way i can change yum.conf somehow to start updating itself to FC2 final? -- Michael Boord From enormandy at stardel.com Thu May 20 11:37:46 2004 From: enormandy at stardel.com (Elaine Normandy) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 05:37:46 -0600 Subject: howto get to FC2 from FC2 test 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40AC988A.5030009@stardel.com> I changed my FC2T3 system to FC2 by going to the /etc directory, and, as root, changed yum.conf.rpmnew to yum.comf. Michael Boord wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed Fedora Core 2 Test 3 last week. > > Spend 3 days configuring it exactly as i want since it's being used > mainly as firewall/nat router. > > Now i see FC 2 made final..... > > Any easy ways to get up to date to the final version without reinstalling > completely from cd's ? > The box hasnt even got a monitor attached so i dont use KDE at all. > > I see yum is still getting updates... > > 05/18/04 05:37:39 Updated: kdelibs 6:3.1.4-5.i386 > 05/18/04 15:27:24 Installed: cksfv 1.3-0.fdr.2.1.i386 > 05/20/04 05:30:12 Updated: gaim 1:0.77-2.FC1.i386 > 05/20/04 05:30:12 Updated: cvs 1.11.15-5.i386 > > So isn't there is way i can change yum.conf somehow > to start updating itself to FC2 final? > > > > -- Elaine Normandy (Colorado Springs) Weblog: http://www.stardel.com/fiveacres/ From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Thu May 20 12:02:33 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:02:33 +0300 Subject: development ISOs? Message-ID: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Hi Can development ISOs be made available from rawhide? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ These would be the equivalent of FC2 + all rawhide updates, right? Thanks -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Thu May 20 12:00:00 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 07:00:00 -0500 Subject: K3b ? Message-ID: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> Where do I download K3b for FC2? Jim Tate From terraformers at gmx.net Thu May 20 12:41:08 2004 From: terraformers at gmx.net (Lars) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:41:08 +0200 Subject: K3b ? Message-ID: <200405201441.08252.terraformers@gmx.net> it's in the fedora extras repo. http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/latest lars jim tate wrote: > Where do I download K3b for FC2? > > Jim Tate > > From Fred.New at microlink.ee Thu May 20 12:46:46 2004 From: Fred.New at microlink.ee (Fred New) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:46:46 +0300 Subject: K3b ? Message-ID: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E3A@eemail1.microlink.lan> On May 20, 2004, at 15:41, Lars wrote: > it's in the fedora extras repo. > http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/latest > > lars > > jim tate wrote: > > > Where do I download K3b for FC2? > > Is there some reason you aren't using the k3b on the FC2 CDs? There is also some mention of k3b in the release notes. Fred From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu May 20 12:48:07 2004 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 08:48:07 -0400 Subject: K3b ? In-Reply-To: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> References: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200405200848.07293.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 20 May 2004 08:00, jim tate wrote: >Where do I download K3b for FC2? > Since its a kde program, maybe a link might be on the main kde site? >Jim Tate -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Thu May 20 12:20:11 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 07:20:11 -0500 Subject: K3b ? In-Reply-To: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> References: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20040520122011.GD4427@comcast.net> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 07:00:00AM -0500, jim tate wrote: > Where do I download K3b for FC2? > It is included in the core distribution now, look in "Sound & Video" or if you did not install it, you will find it on your CD set, or any local mirror. Thanks, Justin M. Forbes From eric at interplas.com Thu May 20 13:09:38 2004 From: eric at interplas.com (Eric Wood) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:09:38 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <002601c43e6c$108d9200$6401a8c0@VAIO> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest L. Williams Jr." > Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in > Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) > > Why is the default US.UTF-8? Any time I use sed or grep on my script I make sure to set LANG=c first. US.UTF-8 slows grep searches *way* down. It was so slow that I thought I had hardware problems - nope, just unicode slowing down my scripts. -eric wood From ron.flory at adtran.com Thu May 20 13:22:11 2004 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (Ron Flory) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 08:22:11 -0500 Subject: FC2 problems on install from CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <40AC84AC.3080602@polve.com> References: <40AC84AC.3080602@polve.com> Message-ID: <40ACB103.1010308@adtran.com> Polve wrote: > Hello, > > I've found a big problem installing FC2 on my pc... I've donwloaded the > iso images and burned with cdrecord as usual, but it doesn't install. It > cannot identify the cd image in the cd-rom so cannot mount /dev/cdrom ... Have you tried the "Test CD" selection. I have a system that was acting somewhat like yours. Just for the heck of it I tried the CD scan and it failed (well, actually crashed horribly) when I tested the CDROM image. Replacing the CDROM drive seems to have resolved the issue in this case. Most folks don't realize how crappy most cdrom drives actually are... Incidentally, even with a 'good' CD media/drive, I also see the messages: "<4>Unable to identify CD-ROM format" "<4>VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev loop0" on VCON4, which i think is a bit misleading. ron From stan at ccs.neu.edu Thu May 20 13:39:34 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:39:34 -0400 Subject: subversion-perl needs missing libswigpl.so Message-ID: <1085060373.9697.18.camel@duergar> I was doing a 'yum -y --download-only update' and got this: Resolving dependencies .Package subversion-perl needs libswigpl.so, this is not available. Package subversion needs libswigpy.so, this is not available. Any idea what package this comes from? -sb From stan at ccs.neu.edu Thu May 20 13:46:40 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:46:40 -0400 Subject: development ISOs? In-Reply-To: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1085060799.9697.24.camel@duergar> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 08:02, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi > > Can development ISOs be made available from rawhide? > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > > These would be the equivalent of FC2 + all rawhide updates, right? > I've wanted RawHide ISOs for a long time, but I have been told this will not happen many times. Most recently a few months ago on the devel list. All the reasons not to do it made perfect sense, I just don't recall what they are exactly. Off the top of my head, disk space on the mirrors might have been one reason. I think another reason was that they didn't want to bother making ISO and dealing with all the bandwith wasted when rawhide packages broke something and wouldn't install anyways. So basically they'd be wasting gigs of disk space and bandwith. I'm sure there are other reasons, I just don't feel like opening a browser to look it up in the archives for ya. Check out the fedora-devel-list archives and search for 'rawhide iso' and you'll probably find your answer. -sb > Thanks > -- > Marius Andreiana > Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania > http://www.galuna.ro > From jorton at redhat.com Thu May 20 13:47:31 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:47:31 +0100 Subject: subversion-perl needs missing libswigpl.so In-Reply-To: <1085060373.9697.18.camel@duergar> References: <1085060373.9697.18.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <20040520134731.GA18880@redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:39:34AM -0400, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > I was doing a 'yum -y --download-only update' and got this: > > Resolving dependencies > .Package subversion-perl needs libswigpl.so, this is not available. > Package subversion needs libswigpy.so, this is not available. > > Any idea what package this comes from? It comes from the swig package. If you're pulling from Raw Hide, there was an issue with the swig package which could cause this, the fixed version should show up today. joe From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 20 13:49:39 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:49:39 +0100 Subject: Ximian Evolution timeouts Message-ID: <1085060978.2198.33.camel@T7.linux> Hi, Trying to sort out a problem with the server at work and getting emails remotely using Ximian 1.5.7 It looks like I'm having a timeout problem. Anyone know where the timeout value is or how to set it to something different? TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We have been browsing around but couldn't find any clues. HELlllllllllp Domenico From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 20 14:26:00 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:26:00 +0100 Subject: Unresolved errors on yum... Message-ID: <1085063159.2198.42.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I've just tried a yum update and have the following errors... Resolving dependencies .conflict between initscripts and pppd Package rusers-server needs libproc.so.3.2.0, this is not available Package rusers-server needs libproc.so.3.2.0(_3_1_14), this is not available Okay, I can do the yum -e pppd (I don't use ppp anyway), but what provides libproc? TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From polve at polve.com Thu May 20 14:49:39 2004 From: polve at polve.com (Polve) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:49:39 +0200 Subject: FC2 problems on install from CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <40ACB103.1010308@adtran.com> References: <40AC84AC.3080602@polve.com> <40ACB103.1010308@adtran.com> Message-ID: <40ACC583.6050709@polve.com> Ron Flory wrote: > Polve wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've found a big problem installing FC2 on my pc... I've donwloaded >> the iso images and burned with cdrecord as usual, but it doesn't >> install. It cannot identify the cd image in the cd-rom so cannot >> mount /dev/cdrom ... > > > Have you tried the "Test CD" selection. I have a system that was > acting somewhat like yours. Just for the heck of it I tried the CD scan > and it failed (well, actually crashed horribly) when I tested the CDROM > image. > Even if I try to make a linux mediacheck, after syslinux boots up, the system cannot mount the cdrom... so even the same problem... the md5sum of the disk 1 is correct too... > Replacing the CDROM drive seems to have resolved the issue in this case. > Most folks don't realize how crappy most cdrom drives actually are... > > Incidentally, even with a 'good' CD media/drive, I also see the > messages: > > "<4>Unable to identify CD-ROM format" > "<4>VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev loop0" > > on VCON4, which i think is a bit misleading. > I've exchange two different CD-ROM reader but the problem remain the same. I've used TDK discs like all the other versions of fedora core I've downloaded and burned, but all the other versions works good... Andrea > ron > > -- Polve AMC Team - From the piana ------------------------------------------ Ci sono 10 categorie di persone al mondo: quelle che capiscono il sistema binario e quelle che non lo capiscono. From rcavey at g0mos16.gsfcmo.ecs.nasa.gov Thu May 20 14:56:59 2004 From: rcavey at g0mos16.gsfcmo.ecs.nasa.gov (Robert Cavey) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:56:59 -0400 Subject: Kickstart problems in FC2 [resolved] In-Reply-To: <1085000251.2037.12.camel@gsfcb.ecs.nasa.gov> References: <1085000251.2037.12.camel@gsfcb.ecs.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1085065019.3715.9.camel@gsfcb.ecs.nasa.gov> Hmmm, As someone pointed out to me via direct re-ply -- <<>> In fact I was using 6 and adding the 7th via boot option of "ks ip=xxx.xxx.xxx" Well .. my fix was to remove the gateway variable, now my line looks like below which turns out to be 5 variables, hmmmmm. Is the boot process adding extra variables that are hidden to the eye somewhere? label ks kernel vmlinuz append netmask=255.0.0.0 dns=10.1.198.31 ks=nfs:10.1.198.138:/data1/kickit/fc2ks.cfg ksdevice=eth0 initrd=initrd.img Very strange.... Bob On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 16:57, Robert Cavey wrote: > Having problems building my kickstart disk in FC2. Used this exact same > method with RH90 and was flawless. > > The scoop: > Basically, I unpack the boot.iso from the images directory and modify > the isolinux.cfg and change ks label to the following: > > <> > label ks > kernel vmlinuz > append netmask=255.0.0.0 gateway=10.1.198.1 dns=10.1.198.31 > ks=nfs:10.1.198.138:/data1/kickit/fc2ks.cfg ksdevice=eth0 > initrd=initrd.img > <> > > I then run mkisofs to rebuild to a .iso and burn to CD, boots up OK, at > the boot prompt: > > boot: ks ip=10.1.198.105 > > Tries to boot and kernel panic ... DOH!!! > > <<> > Kernel panic: Too many boot env vars at 'ip=10.1.198.105' > In idle task - Not syncing > <<>> > > > If I just type "ks" anaconda tries to dhcp the nic card ... don't want > that. > > > Anyone know of a limit to the number of parameters or has the process > changed with the 2.6 kernel? > > > Thanks, > Bob From guy at incentre.net Thu May 20 14:51:02 2004 From: guy at incentre.net (Guy Fraser) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 08:51:02 -0600 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <002601c43e6c$108d9200$6401a8c0@VAIO> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <002601c43e6c$108d9200$6401a8c0@VAIO> Message-ID: <40ACC5D6.8050606@incentre.net> Eric Wood wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ernest L. Williams Jr." > > >>Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in >>Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) >> >>Why is the default US.UTF-8? >> >> > >Any time I use sed or grep on my script I make sure to set LANG=c first. >US.UTF-8 slows grep searches *way* down. It was so slow that I thought I >had hardware problems - nope, just unicode slowing down my scripts. > >-eric wood > It also makes them case insensitive. #^%$$# ^&%*& !!! From dwolinski at ll.mit.edu Thu May 20 15:21:09 2004 From: dwolinski at ll.mit.edu (David Wolinski) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: powernow-k8 trouble on FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <1084459074.9534.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <1084459074.9534.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: Thanks -- I confirmed that powernow-k8 works in a stock 2.6.6 kernel. Can I expect this fix to make it into the 2.6.5-series FC2 kernel? On Thu, 13 May 2004, Dave Jones wrote: > > Later kernels should have this fixed (it falls back to ACPI tables > when the PST tables are bogus) > > Dave > From tduvally at brown.edu Thu May 20 15:24:33 2004 From: tduvally at brown.edu (Thomas DuVally) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:24:33 -0400 Subject: K3b ? In-Reply-To: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> References: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1085066673.6850.8.camel@croithine.cis.brown.edu> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 08:00, jim tate wrote: > Where do I download K3b for FC2? > I get K3b for FC1 at http://k3b.xcyb.org I assume it will get compiled for FC2 soon at the same site, since there is a directory tree for it under http://rpms.xcyb.org It's also an apt repository. > Jim Tate -- Thomas J. DuVally Lead Systems Prog. CIS, Brown Univ. GPG fingerprint = FB59 8265 0865 0CB8 94B5 FC26 F573 F09C 15F2 33F6 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also, it is very difficult to do a right-click properties when there are applications open to get to the panel properties and change them. You always get the right-click popup for something else. In W2K, even if it is smaller to start with, I just have to drag the top of the panel to resize it... Anyway, I always feel like Don Quichotte when I bring this up ;-). >>And the kernel still locks up at boot when I try to install it on my >>Thinkpad A22m notebook making testing in a much more challenging >>hardware environment impossible. > > Does this occur with acpi=off too ? Yes. I believe it is because of the NIC (Intel PRO/100 SP Mobile Combo) http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2300 As for filing bugs in Bugzilla, I'll get on it this weekend. In the meantime, I'm just sharing my raw experience to get some feedback and make sure I don't forget anything. Thanks, Ricky Ng-Adam From davej at redhat.com Thu May 20 15:39:33 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:39:33 +0100 Subject: powernow-k8 trouble on FC2T3 In-Reply-To: References: <1084459074.9534.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <1085067572.9407.3.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 16:21, David Wolinski wrote: > Thanks -- I confirmed that powernow-k8 works in a stock 2.6.6 kernel. > > Can I expect this fix to make it into the 2.6.5-series FC2 kernel? No. But you can expect it to be in the update kernels at http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/ At some point (basically after the dust settles of the initial post-release bugzilla storm), we'll look at doing a proper 'update' kernel. Until then, you can grab daily snapshots from there (or from the rawhide development tree -- they're going to be the same kernel for as long as it makes sense to have a single source of kernels between FC2/FC3beta/RHEL4). Dave From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Thu May 20 15:49:43 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:49:43 -0400 Subject: Unresolved errors on yum... In-Reply-To: <1085066699.13685.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085063159.2198.42.camel@T7.linux> <1085066699.13685.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1085068183.25445.0.camel@opus> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 11:25, Robert Couture wrote: > On Thu, 2004-20-05 at 15:26 +0100, Paul wrote: > > > Resolving dependencies > > .conflict between initscripts and pppd > > I got this error and I don't have pppd installed. (??) > pppd was being pulled in by something else most likely. -sv From rshewan at lio.aacisd.com Thu May 20 15:55:22 2004 From: rshewan at lio.aacisd.com (Rob Shewan) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:55:22 -0400 Subject: Unresolved errors on yum... In-Reply-To: <1085068183.25445.0.camel@opus> References: <1085063159.2198.42.camel@T7.linux> <1085066699.13685.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085068183.25445.0.camel@opus> Message-ID: <40ACD4EA.4050609@lio.aacisd.com> seth vidal wrote: >On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 11:25, Robert Couture wrote: > > >>On Thu, 2004-20-05 at 15:26 +0100, Paul wrote: >> >> >> >>>Resolving dependencies >>>.conflict between initscripts and pppd >>> >>> >>I got this error and I don't have pppd installed. (??) >> >> >> > >pppd was being pulled in by something else most likely. > >-sv > > > > > > > Update up2date first. This will change a configuration file and modify the update list. I'm not sure I like the list change because I haven't received the 2.6.6 kernel that was in the original but a number of packages were updated. From kirillov at math.sunysb.edu Thu May 20 15:58:44 2004 From: kirillov at math.sunysb.edu (Alexander Kirillov) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:58:44 -0400 Subject: F2CT3 configuration problem with Toshiba 490XCDT In-Reply-To: <40ACBF22.1080400@videotron.ca> References: <40ACBF22.1080400@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <1085068723.12719.7.camel@copiague> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 10:22, Domenico Celi wrote: > Hello, > > My son and I have just finished installing the Fedora F2CT3 core on a > Toshiba 490XCDT laptop. Two problems were encountered : Fedora Core 2 Final has been reelased - why install test releases? > - The internal ESS (ES1868) sound card wasn't recognized, and; > - The internal K56flex modem wasn't recognized. > Can't help here - sorry. > Furthermore, we succeeded once to change the screen resolution from > 640x480 to 1024x768 but it reverts back to 640x480 everytime we reboot > or change user. Sometimes the whole screen freezes over and we can't do > anything > This is a known (and many times reported) bug in test 3; search archives of this list or bugzilla (system-display-properties). Fixed in FC2 -final (at least, I had similar problem with test 3 and it works fine with FC2 final). Sasha From lunix at comcast.net Thu May 20 15:59:55 2004 From: lunix at comcast.net (Prasanth Kumar) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 08:59:55 -0700 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <40ACC5D6.8050606@incentre.net> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <002601c43e6c$108d9200$6401a8c0@VAIO> <40ACC5D6.8050606@incentre.net> Message-ID: <1085068795.31348.0.camel@zeus.comcast.net> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 07:51, Guy Fraser wrote: > Eric Wood wrote: > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ernest L. Williams Jr." > > > > > >>Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in > >>Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) > >> > >>Why is the default US.UTF-8? > >> > >> > > > >Any time I use sed or grep on my script I make sure to set LANG=c first. > >US.UTF-8 slows grep searches *way* down. It was so slow that I thought I > >had hardware problems - nope, just unicode slowing down my scripts. > > > >-eric wood > > > It also makes them case insensitive. #^%$$# ^&%*& !!! > > Actually I think it only makes the sort operations case insensitive. From shahms at shahms.com Thu May 20 16:06:37 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:06:37 -0700 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1085068795.31348.0.camel@zeus.comcast.net> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <002601c43e6c$108d9200$6401a8c0@VAIO> <40ACC5D6.8050606@incentre.net> <1085068795.31348.0.camel@zeus.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> > > > > > It also makes them case insensitive. #^%$$# ^&%*& !!! > > > > > > Actually I think it only makes the sort operations case insensitive. That's a bit of a misnomer, it makes strcoll (not strcmp) obey the comparison rules for the current locale. In the case of en_US it means that upper and lower case letters sort: a A b B c C Rather than the 'C' (numeric value of the ASCII letters): A B C a b c Note that upper case letters always come after their lower case counterparts but before the next letter, so it's not case insensitive and is, in general, what most people expect. -- Shahms King From greg-miller at shaw.ca Thu May 20 16:07:31 2004 From: greg-miller at shaw.ca (Greg Miller) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:07:31 -0600 Subject: Making wine on FC2 x86_64 Message-ID: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> Is it possible to install wine using the source RPM on FC2 for x86_64? I have been trying but keep getting make errors due to an unsuppoted processor. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Greg Miller From rhouston at rlhc.net Thu May 20 16:15:11 2004 From: rhouston at rlhc.net (Richard Houston) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:15:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: JFS FS on install issue Message-ID: <35232.24.77.172.251.1085069711.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Hi all. First off great work on FC2 looks an feels good!! Keep up the good work! I tried doing a fresh install and started the installer with the Linux jfs parameter. I like jfs and would like to use it as it is our standers FS. All goes well except when I get to formating file system where it errors out. Error is formating error Error not recoverable or something like that. If I do an install and use ext3 everything is OK. Figured I would pass this on. Also can you use XFS during install like jfs? Regards, +------------------------------------------+ | Richard Houston .^. | | R.L.H. Consulting /V\ | | E-Mail /( )\ | | WWW ^^-^^ | +------------------------------------------+ From ron.flory at adtran.com Thu May 20 16:21:42 2004 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (Ron Flory) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:21:42 -0500 Subject: FC2 problems on install from CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <40ACC583.6050709@polve.com> References: <40AC84AC.3080602@polve.com> <40ACB103.1010308@adtran.com> <40ACC583.6050709@polve.com> Message-ID: <40ACDB16.3000504@adtran.com> Polve wrote: > Even if I try to make a linux mediacheck, after syslinux boots up, the > system cannot mount the cdrom... so even the same problem... the md5sum > of the disk 1 is correct too... I've also seen drives that would work only if I recorded the CDs at a slow speed, perhaps 4X or less (depending upon the reader). > I've exchange two different CD-ROM reader but the problem remain the same. > I've used TDK discs like all the other versions of fedora core I've > downloaded and burned, but all the other versions works good... I had the same deal, the system i discovered the CDROM problem on has been running RH7.2, RH7.3, RH8.0, RH9.0, FC1, but not FC2. This one wasn't FC2's fault in my case. ron From ron.flory at adtran.com Thu May 20 16:22:48 2004 From: ron.flory at adtran.com (Ron Flory) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:22:48 -0500 Subject: FC2T3 kernel 'make menuconfig' In-Reply-To: <20040518140530.GA11541@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <1084742340.3795.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40A7FE9E.7000409@t-online.de> <40A80935.8000407@earthlink.net> <20040516210314.35e09490.seanlkml@rogers.com> <40A81A97.2050809@ceimaine.org> <40AA179F.3080905@adtran.com> <20040518140530.GA11541@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <40ACDB58.1030003@adtran.com> Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 09:03:11AM -0500, Ron Flory wrote: > >> running 'make menuconfig' on a local vcon ov my Compac Laptop >>results in very confused and nearly unreadable output. Running >>the same on a remote ssh or telnet session into the machine >>looks fine. > > > What if you do "LANG=C make menuconfig"? works great now. 'lang=junk' strikes again... ron From bos at serpentine.com Thu May 20 16:32:02 2004 From: bos at serpentine.com (Bryan O'Sullivan) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:32:02 -0700 Subject: Making wine on FC2 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> References: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1085070722.21018.16.camel@serpentine.internal.keyresearch.com> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 09:07, Greg Miller wrote: > Is it possible to install wine using the source RPM on FC2 for x86_64? No. From mark at harddata.com Thu May 20 16:28:21 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:28:21 -0600 Subject: Making wine on FC2 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> References: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <200405201028.21844.mark@harddata.com> On May 20, 2004 10:07 am, Greg Miller wrote: > Is it possible to install wine using the source RPM on FC2 for x86_64? I > have been trying but keep getting make errors due to an unsuppoted > processor. > > Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I would stick with the 32bit Packages especially since Wine is a 32Bit set of APIs. They should run fine. Currently I am running Crossover Office on my system without any problems. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu May 20 16:41:22 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:41:22 -0400 Subject: Making wine on FC2 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <200405201028.21844.mark@harddata.com> References: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> <200405201028.21844.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: <200405201241.23759.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:28 pm, Mark Lane wrote: > On May 20, 2004 10:07 am, Greg Miller wrote: > > Is it possible to install wine using the source RPM on FC2 for x86_64? I > > have been trying but keep getting make errors due to an unsuppoted > > processor. > > > > Any tips would be greatly appreciated. > > I would stick with the 32bit Packages especially since Wine is a 32Bit set > of APIs. They should run fine. Currently I am running Crossover Office on > my system without any problems. > You mean 32bit everything, or do you mean a few 32bit packages on a 64bit system? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFArN+yMDqogpR5tkMRAktNAJ4tXl0CFpI0+kG1AjOGssRrUmj1LgCbBECa xQUbAZ62gTc1veI7UBDWFs4= =Lom0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From akabi at speakeasy.net Thu May 20 16:47:02 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: JFS FS on install issue In-Reply-To: <35232.24.77.172.251.1085069711.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> References: <35232.24.77.172.251.1085069711.squirrel@mail.rlhc.net> Message-ID: On May 20, 2004 at 11:15, Richard Houston in a soothing rage wrote: >Hi all. > >First off great work on FC2 looks an feels good!! Keep up the good work! FC2 questions should be asked on fedora-list mailing list. >I tried doing a fresh install and started the installer with the Linux jfs >parameter. I like jfs and would like to use it as it is our standers FS. > >All goes well except when I get to formating file system where it errors >out. Error is formating error Error not recoverable or something like >that. > >If I do an install and use ext3 everything is OK. > >Figured I would pass this on. > >Also can you use XFS during install like jfs? Yes. And I believe reiserfs as well. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Mystics always hope that science will some day overtake them. -- Booth Tarkington 12:45:08 up 2 days, 17:35, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu May 20 16:58:31 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:58:31 -0400 Subject: tex4ht - please add Message-ID: <200405201258.33269.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I just downloaded tex4ht srpm from suse. Remove buildrequires and requires from the spec, and it builds/installs/works. This is an important application, because it is one of the only ways to convert LaTeX -> M$ word (via html). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFArOO3MDqogpR5tkMRAm2CAJ9GQUYHSpTb4VyREFMZqH/4jbu+/ACcDDy7 mJwd895dDiMejtcacAYJfak= =PPda -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mark at harddata.com Thu May 20 16:54:56 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:54:56 -0600 Subject: Making wine on FC2 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <200405201241.23759.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> <200405201028.21844.mark@harddata.com> <200405201241.23759.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200405201054.56488.mark@harddata.com> On May 20, 2004 10:41 am, Neal Becker wrote: > On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:28 pm, Mark Lane wrote: > > On May 20, 2004 10:07 am, Greg Miller wrote: > > > Is it possible to install wine using the source RPM on FC2 for x86_64? > > > I have been trying but keep getting make errors due to an unsuppoted > > > processor. > > > > > > Any tips would be greatly appreciated. > > > > I would stick with the 32bit Packages especially since Wine is a 32Bit > > set of APIs. They should run fine. Currently I am running Crossover > > Office on my system without any problems. > > You mean 32bit everything, or do you mean a few 32bit packages on a 64bit > system? 32 bit Packages on a 64 Bit system of course. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From bvangrunsven at nighthawkradiologyservices.net Thu May 20 17:03:54 2004 From: bvangrunsven at nighthawkradiologyservices.net (Brian Van Grunsven) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:03:54 -0500 Subject: Difference Between Updated FC2T3 and Actual FC2 Message-ID: <200405201704.NAA13543@illustrious.xo.com> At the risk of sounding very dumb - what would be the difference between an install of FC2T3 that has all updates installed and the actual release of FC2? Also - this may be a bit off topic ... but does anyone have a suggestion for a decent dvd player and/or writer to run on fedora? Thanks all - I've been reading through most of the posts and many have been VERY helpful to say the least! -Brian From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Thu May 20 17:07:09 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:07:09 -0400 Subject: Making wine on FC2 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <200405201054.56488.mark@harddata.com> References: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> <200405201241.23759.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <200405201054.56488.mark@harddata.com> Message-ID: <200405201307.10705.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:54 pm, Mark Lane wrote: > On May 20, 2004 10:41 am, Neal Becker wrote: > > On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:28 pm, Mark Lane wrote: > > > On May 20, 2004 10:07 am, Greg Miller wrote: > > > > Is it possible to install wine using the source RPM on FC2 for > > > > x86_64? I have been trying but keep getting make errors due to an > > > > unsuppoted processor. > > > > > > > > Any tips would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > I would stick with the 32bit Packages especially since Wine is a 32Bit > > > set of APIs. They should run fine. Currently I am running Crossover > > > Office on my system without any problems. > > > > You mean 32bit everything, or do you mean a few 32bit packages on a 64bit > > system? > > 32 bit Packages on a 64 Bit system of course. > -- Do you know what 32-bit packages I would need to run wine (and maybe crossover) on my 64-bit system? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFArOW9MDqogpR5tkMRAtGjAJsGMk4M1h3lCgz0ruXiEKuuPxPaCwCfUz1Z r0/xk7CwggEBnxYjl7zKuPo= =8zuN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hogsett at csl.sri.com Thu May 20 17:11:51 2004 From: hogsett at csl.sri.com (Mike Hogsett) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:11:51 -0700 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: Message from "Ernest L. Williams Jr." of "Wed, 19 May 2004 23:32:33 EDT." <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <200405201711.i4KHBpjT005387@beast.csl.sri.com> > Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in > Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) Include /bin/bash in that list as well... Having the following ~/.inputrc set input-meta on set output-meta on set show-all-if-ambiguous on set visible-stats on Meta-p: history-search-backward Meta-n: history-search-forward Keep LANG set to Fedora's default and meta-{p,n} don't work as advertised inside bash. - Mike From mark at harddata.com Thu May 20 17:06:00 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:06:00 -0600 Subject: Making wine on FC2 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <200405201307.10705.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> <200405201054.56488.mark@harddata.com> <200405201307.10705.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200405201106.00788.mark@harddata.com> On May 20, 2004 11:07 am, Neal Becker wrote: > On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:54 pm, Mark Lane wrote: > > On May 20, 2004 10:41 am, Neal Becker wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:28 pm, Mark Lane wrote: > > > > On May 20, 2004 10:07 am, Greg Miller wrote: > > > > > Is it possible to install wine using the source RPM on FC2 for > > > > > x86_64? I have been trying but keep getting make errors due to an > > > > > unsuppoted processor. > > > > > > > > > > Any tips would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > I would stick with the 32bit Packages especially since Wine is a > > > > 32Bit set of APIs. They should run fine. Currently I am running > > > > Crossover Office on my system without any problems. > > > > > > You mean 32bit everything, or do you mean a few 32bit packages on a > > > 64bit system? > > > > 32 bit Packages on a 64 Bit system of course. > > -- > > Do you know what 32-bit packages I would need to run wine (and maybe > crossover) on my 64-bit system? crossover office comes complete in and of itself. It's pretty much stand alone. As for wine, I assume someone has done rpm packages for FC. Just and stall them and any 32 Bit libs they require. regards, -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From heitor.moraes at gmail.com Thu May 20 17:22:18 2004 From: heitor.moraes at gmail.com (Heitor Moraes) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:22:18 -0300 Subject: Difference Between Updated FC2T3 and Actual FC2 In-Reply-To: <200405201704.NAA13543@illustrious.xo.com> References: <200405201704.NAA13543@illustrious.xo.com> Message-ID: <2608b3b30405201022a1de044@mail.gmail.com> Here, I use gmplayer to see movies (DVD, mpeg, VCD, Xvid...) and DVD::RIP to backup my DVDs On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:03:54 -0500, Brian Van Grunsven wrote: > > At the risk of sounding very dumb - what would be the difference between an > install of FC2T3 that has all updates installed and the actual release of > FC2? > > Also - this may be a bit off topic ... but does anyone have a suggestion for > a decent dvd player and/or writer to run on fedora? > > Thanks all - I've been reading through most of the posts and many have been > VERY helpful to say the least! > > -Brian > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From stan at ccs.neu.edu Thu May 20 17:22:34 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:22:34 -0400 Subject: subversion-perl needs missing libswigpl.so In-Reply-To: <20040520134731.GA18880@redhat.com> References: <1085060373.9697.18.camel@duergar> <20040520134731.GA18880@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085073754.9697.27.camel@duergar> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 09:47, Joe Orton wrote: > It comes from the swig package. If you're pulling from Raw Hide, there > was an issue with the swig package which could cause this, the fixed > version should show up today. > > joe > Thanks, Yeah i quickly figured that out after i sent the message. Wasn't feeling hot earlier and looking at my screen wasnt making feel better. But now my question would be: why the new dependency on SWIG? -sb From Fulko.Hew at sita.aero Thu May 20 17:53:37 2004 From: Fulko.Hew at sita.aero (Fulko.Hew at sita.aero) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:53:37 -0400 Subject: Difference Between Updated FC2T3 and Actual FC2 Message-ID: "Brian Van Grunsven" asked: > At the risk of sounding very dumb - what would be the difference between an > install of FC2T3 that has all updates installed and the actual release of > FC2? Basically nothing. I do think there were a few 'installation' issues that would only have been fixed if you did a re-install, but operationally, It should be the same. If you've got a working system, and it "ain't broke"... don't fix it. Having said that, I have installed the official release over top of my perfectly working test release that I've been tracking all along, I did it for 'peace of mind' sake... but I know I'm probably deluding myself. > Also - this may be a bit off topic ... but does anyone have a suggestion for > a decent dvd player and/or writer to run on fedora? I have installed both xine and mplayer, they both work, and are both decent. YMMV. > Thanks all - I've been reading through most of the posts and many have been > VERY helpful to say the least! From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Thu May 20 17:41:59 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:41:59 +0300 Subject: K3b ? In-Reply-To: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> References: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200405202041.59279.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> jim tate kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika torstai, 20. toukokuuta 2004 15:00): > Where do I download K3b for FC2? It's on the CD2 of the FC2 distribution. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From michal at harddata.com Thu May 20 17:46:53 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:46:53 -0600 Subject: Making wine on FC2 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <1085070722.21018.16.camel@serpentine.internal.keyresearch.com>; from bos@serpentine.com on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:32:02AM -0700 References: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> <1085070722.21018.16.camel@serpentine.internal.keyresearch.com> Message-ID: <20040520114653.A2868@mail.harddata.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:32:02AM -0700, Bryan O'Sullivan wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 09:07, Greg Miller wrote: > > Is it possible to install wine using the source RPM on FC2 for x86_64? > > No. Why not? Pass '--target=i386' to rpmbuild and make sure that you have '-m32' in gcc flags. Of course that assumes that you installed 32-bit versions of all required "devel" libraries and you have what it takes in a toolchain. Some other minor tweaks may be required. I did not try but I do not see what could bar, at least in a principle, from achieving that. It may be simpler to recompile on x86 system and just install resulting binaries. At least when such development machine is handy. :-) Michal From Greg.King at lmit.com Thu May 20 17:58:12 2004 From: Greg.King at lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:58:12 -0500 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFA8@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> Slashdot has a news item about an FC2 review (www.slashdot.org) posted on http://www.linuxlookup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&re q=showcontent&id=59 That site is slashdotted though so good luck getting the review from there. Fortunately someone decided to karma whore and posted the review on slashdot at http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=108286&cid=9206137 My take on the review is that the author brings up some valid points IF he was reviewing it under the proper context. IMO and based on what I have read here, FC2 is for hobbyists, it is not supposed to be a Mandrake or Suse. Therefore I feel the review is flawed based on expectations that should not have been there. What I do agree with is the inconsistency and the up2date issue that were mentioned: "The odd thing about Fedora is that it seems to be aimed at novice users but is inconsistent. We are given the choices Web Browser, Email, Music Player and Audio Player, but left with Kopete, Kget, Emacs and so forth. Either your user knows what Kopete is or they don't. If you are simplifying the menu, do it across the board or don't do it at all. This inconsistency extends to the system itself. It is pretty and newbie friendly at first, but if you need basic functionality such as mp3 playback you must hand edit the yum configuration file. Up2date freezes, but the command line program yum works well." - author quote Anyhow, just an fyi so far I have had a pretty good run with FC2 although the up2date bug and dual boot bug are annoying. Greg From si at bananas.hopto.org Thu May 20 18:13:14 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:13:14 +0100 Subject: dual boot XP / FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040520004438.ECF8F740E3@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040520004438.ECF8F740E3@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085076794.3586.30.camel@apple.bananas.hopto.org> Hi All, Well done to all involved in getting FC2 out, I installed it without a problem, every cd went through fine. I can still boot XP without any problems, although I have a SATA drive on a Silicon Image controller so don't know if that makes a difference. Overall am impressed with FC2, and I think I will stay on it, the thing I need to resolve is the sound, my onboard nvidia nforce2 sound dont seem to have any sound....? If anyone has any knowledge of this issue then please let me know! Thanks to everyone again, keep up the good work. And for the people who just moan on this list -> get a life!!! From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Thu May 20 18:13:21 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:13:21 -0400 Subject: Difference Between Updated FC2T3 and Actual FC2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085076801.12240.31.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 13:53, Fulko.Hew at sita.aero wrote: > "Brian Van Grunsven" asked: > > > At the risk of sounding very dumb - what would be the difference between > an > > install of FC2T3 that has all updates installed and the actual release of > > FC2? > > Basically nothing. > I do think there were a few 'installation' issues that would only have > been fixed if you did a re-install, but operationally, It should be the > same. > If you've got a working system, and it "ain't broke"... don't fix it. On release day I compared the RPMS in rawhide to those from the ISO images. Only differences were fedora-release and rpmdb-fedora versions. They have since diverged as newer packages are showing up in rawhide, so the answer depends on the point in time, and on where you are pointing for updates. Phil From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Thu May 20 18:13:36 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:13:36 +0100 Subject: Unresolved errors on yum... In-Reply-To: <40ACD4EA.4050609@lio.aacisd.com> References: <1085063159.2198.42.camel@T7.linux> <1085066699.13685.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085068183.25445.0.camel@opus> <40ACD4EA.4050609@lio.aacisd.com> Message-ID: <1085076815.28390.7.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > Update up2date first. This will change a configuration file and modify > the update list. I'm not sure I like the list change because I haven't > received the 2.6.6 kernel that was in the original but a number of > packages were updated. According to yum, I'm already running the latest up2date... TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I used up2date last night right after an fc2 install to get downloads...I had no problems. -jef From Greg.King at lmit.com Thu May 20 18:31:12 2004 From: Greg.King at lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:31:12 -0500 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFAA@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> I was refering to the bug the author mentioned in his review. Just because something has not been posted on bugzilla does not mean it does not exist. Users are experiencing it regardless. What it does mean is that the devs will not be aware of the issue to work on it and as a result it wont get fixed until they are made aware. Before posting it as a bug on bugzilla, I was going to start looking into logs when I got home from work and then see if it was something I did first (until then I just used yum). If others had the same bug (the author and some other posters on slashdot) then it reads to me like it is not something isolated I did and will need to be added to bugzilla. -Greg -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Spaleta Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:16 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:58:12 -0500, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > > Anyhow, just an fyi so far I have had a pretty good run with FC2 although > the up2date bug and dual boot bug are annoying. Up2date bug? Its not a bug if its not in bugzilla. If you are going to call it a bug please cite the approprate bug ticket. I used up2date last night right after an fc2 install to get downloads...I had no problems. -jef -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mattdm at mattdm.org Thu May 20 18:34:58 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:34:58 -0400 Subject: subversion-perl needs missing libswigpl.so In-Reply-To: <1085073754.9697.27.camel@duergar> References: <1085060373.9697.18.camel@duergar> <20040520134731.GA18880@redhat.com> <1085073754.9697.27.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <20040520183458.GA976@jadzia.bu.edu> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 01:22:34PM -0400, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > Yeah i quickly figured that out after i sent the message. Wasn't > feeling hot earlier and looking at my screen wasnt making feel better. > But now my question would be: why the new dependency on SWIG? The older swig packages weirdly only provide versionless .so files -- libswigpl.so, for example. So packages like subversion end up with dependencies on that directly. Really, there should be something like libswigpl.so.0, and the other package would have dependencies on that. The new swig packages fix the problem, but until the old other package are rebuilt against it, they'll be confused. At least, that's my understanding. Anyone who knows better, feel free to correct me. :) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 20 18:44:17 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:44:17 -0400 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFAA@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFAA@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> Message-ID: <604aa791040520114412269ff3@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 20 May 2004 13:31:12 -0500, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) wrote: > If others had the same bug (the author and some other posters on slashdot) > then it reads to me like it is not something isolated I did and will need to > be added to bugzilla. Let me humbly suggest that slashdot posters are not to be trusted as a breed. -jef"never seems to have /. modpoints when he needs them"spaleta From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 20 18:55:47 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:55:47 -0400 Subject: Unresolved errors on yum... In-Reply-To: <1085076815.28390.7.camel@T7.linux> References: <1085063159.2198.42.camel@T7.linux> <1085066699.13685.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085068183.25445.0.camel@opus> <40ACD4EA.4050609@lio.aacisd.com> <1085076815.28390.7.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <604aa79104052011557f9f8787@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 20 May 2004 19:13:36 +0100, Paul wrote: > According to yum, I'm already running the latest up2date... Do you mean to still be getting updates from the development tree at this point? You need to take a second and ask yourself..do i want to keep trying to update from development tree now that fc2 is our or do I want to update against the fc2 tree? Once you have answer that for yourself, look at /etc/yum.conf and possibly /etc/yum.conf.rpmnew which would have been created if you edit your yum.conf during testing and then installed the the last yum update package in the devel tree before fc2 release. If yum.conf is still pointed at the devel branch...which i suspect yours is from the error you recieved...you need to understand that packaging errors happen in development branch, and now that we are outside of the test phase you can expect the development branch to get a little wild before the next test phase starts up. I fully expect this sort of consistancy error to show up in development repeatedly now that testing is over. -jef From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Thu May 20 19:06:16 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFAA@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFAA@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> Message-ID: <4170.12.29.16.103.1085079976.squirrel@12.29.16.103> King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) said: > I was refering to the bug the author mentioned in his review. Just because > something has not been posted on bugzilla does not mean it does not exist. Yes it does. -- William Hooper From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Thu May 20 19:07:50 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFA8@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFA8@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> Message-ID: <4320.12.29.16.103.1085080070.squirrel@12.29.16.103> King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) said: > Slashdot has a news item about an FC2 review Remind me again, what does this have to do with testing "...Fedora Core development releases"? -- William Hooper From Greg.King at lmit.com Thu May 20 19:14:04 2004 From: Greg.King at lmit.com (King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU)) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:14:04 -0500 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 Message-ID: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFAD@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> well according to you nothing as it does not exist in bugzilla and therefore does not exits. -Greg -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:08 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) said: > Slashdot has a news item about an FC2 review Remind me again, what does this have to do with testing "...Fedora Core development releases"? -- William Hooper -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From gstool at earthlink.net Thu May 20 19:28:12 2004 From: gstool at earthlink.net (Gerry Tool) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:28:12 -0500 Subject: dual boot XP / FC2 In-Reply-To: <1085076794.3586.30.camel@apple.bananas.hopto.org> References: <20040520004438.ECF8F740E3@hormel.redhat.com> <1085076794.3586.30.camel@apple.bananas.hopto.org> Message-ID: <40AD06CC.5090800@earthlink.net> Si Jones wrote: > Hi All, > > Well done to all involved in getting FC2 out, I installed it without a > problem, every cd went through fine. > > I can still boot XP without any problems, although I have a SATA drive > on a Silicon Image controller so don't know if that makes a difference. > > Overall am impressed with FC2, and I think I will stay on it, the thing > I need to resolve is the sound, my onboard nvidia nforce2 sound dont > seem to have any sound....? > > If anyone has any knowledge of this issue then please let me know! > > Thanks to everyone again, keep up the good work. > > And for the people who just moan on this list -> get a life!!! > Try looking at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122927 Gerry From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Thu May 20 19:30:39 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFAD@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFAD@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> Message-ID: <2149.12.29.16.103.1085081439.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Top Posting corrected. King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) said: > King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) said: >> Slashdot has a news item about an FC2 review > > Remind me again, what does this have to do with testing "...Fedora Core > development releases"? > well according to you nothing Exactly. So please don't post off-topic. If you would like to discuss Fedora Core 2 I suggest you use the fedora-list. -- William Hooper From rpa4email at rogers.com Thu May 20 19:41:08 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:41:08 -0400 Subject: Unresolved errors on yum... In-Reply-To: <604aa79104052011557f9f8787@mail.gmail.com> References: <1085063159.2198.42.camel@T7.linux> <1085066699.13685.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085068183.25445.0.camel@opus> <40ACD4EA.4050609@lio.aacisd.com> <1085076815.28390.7.camel@T7.linux> <604aa79104052011557f9f8787@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1085082068.13685.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-20-05 at 14:55 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > If yum.conf is still pointed at the devel branch...which i suspect > yours is from the error you recieved...you need to understand that > packaging errors happen in development branch, and now that we are > outside of the test phase you can expect the development branch to get > a little wild before the next test phase starts up. I fully expect > this sort of consistancy error to show up in development repeatedly > now that testing is over. As I am fairly new to all of this, at this point, can you still point to development? In other words, when can you point to development for FC3? Thanks! :) RC. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From reg at dwf.com Thu May 20 20:17:22 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:17:22 -0600 Subject: Fedora2 confused about SATA drives. In-Reply-To: Message from Alan Cox of "Thu, 20 May 2004 03:39:04 EDT." <20040520073904.GB11086@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405202017.i4KKHNNo024470@orion.dwf.com> > On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 12:37:50AM -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > > I still have no explanation as to why Fedora (and memtest86, > > and everything else I have tried) only sees 2.792GB of memory > > when loaded on this Intel D875PBZ motherboard and a 3.2GHz > > Processor and 4x 1GB of memory. > > Presumably because that is what the BIOS reports to everyone. Yes thats true. I would like to pull the memory later this PM and replace it one stick at a time and see what is reported. From my machine at the office, I know that with 2x500 on the board, you see 1032440 kB which is only 41Meg from 1 073 741 824 . {of course I could ask whats it doing with 41Meg...). > > > Fedora is confused by SATA drives. > > On the GRUB line (and grub.conf) you have to identify them as /dev/hda1 > > But in the /etc/fstab, and on mount commands as /dev/sda1... > > Which grub line is this ? Let me rephrase that. In LINUX, the two SATA disks are referred to as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb . On the root statement for GRUB the first is referred to as /dev/hd0 I will assume that the root= on the kernel line would want /dev/sda, but I have yet to change it from the root=LABEL=/1 syntax. Just 'kinda ugly. It would be nice if both did or didnot do the SCSI emulation in the disk names... -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Thu May 20 20:23:11 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:23:11 -0400 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: <604aa7910405201115591917e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFA8@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> <604aa7910405201115591917e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1085084591.3053.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 14:15, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:58:12 -0500, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) > wrote: > > > > Anyhow, just an fyi so far I have had a pretty good run with FC2 although > > the up2date bug and dual boot bug are annoying. > > Up2date bug? Its not a bug if its not in bugzilla. If you are going to I seriously doubt that this is a bug, as the author claims. Immediately after release, all the mirrors are typically maxed out. I was manually downloading the kdelibs* FC1 updates yesterday, and it took at least two, maybe three hours to get kdelibs-devel on a 1.1M-bit/sec link. That rpm is only about 14MB. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Thu May 20 20:45:05 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:45:05 -0500 Subject: K3b ? In-Reply-To: <1085066673.6850.8.camel@croithine.cis.brown.edu> References: <40AC9DC0.8010206@sbcglobal.net> <1085066673.6850.8.camel@croithine.cis.brown.edu> Message-ID: <1085085905.8447.3.camel@saturn> I installed k3b-0.11.9-3 when I installed fc2 (custom install). It's on cd2. Timothy On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 11:24 -0400, Thomas DuVally wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 08:00, jim tate wrote: > > Where do I download K3b for FC2? > > > > I get K3b for FC1 at http://k3b.xcyb.org > > I assume it will get compiled for FC2 soon at the same site, since there > is a directory tree for it under http://rpms.xcyb.org > > It's also an apt repository. > > > Jim Tate > -- > Thomas J. DuVally > Lead Systems Prog. > CIS, Brown Univ. > > GPG fingerprint = FB59 8265 0865 0CB8 94B5 FC26 F573 F09C 15F2 33F6 > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From jorton at redhat.com Thu May 20 20:49:05 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 21:49:05 +0100 Subject: subversion-perl needs missing libswigpl.so In-Reply-To: <1085073754.9697.27.camel@duergar> References: <1085060373.9697.18.camel@duergar> <20040520134731.GA18880@redhat.com> <1085073754.9697.27.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <20040520204905.GA3233@redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 01:22:34PM -0400, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 09:47, Joe Orton wrote: > > It comes from the swig package. If you're pulling from Raw Hide, there > > was an issue with the swig package which could cause this, the fixed > > version should show up today. > > > > joe > > > Thanks, > Yeah i quickly figured that out after i sent the message. Wasn't > feeling hot earlier and looking at my screen wasnt making feel better. > But now my question would be: why the new dependency on SWIG? It's not actually new, the subversion package has had this dependency for ages... joe From reg at dwf.com Thu May 20 20:56:10 2004 From: reg at dwf.com (reg at dwf.com) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:56:10 -0600 Subject: Where has XF86Config gone in FC2? Message-ID: <200405202056.i4KKuA2M025023@orion.dwf.com> Where has the XF86Config file gone in Fedora2? Actually, Ive done a 'find / -name XF86Config -print' and it isnt any where to be found, so has it been renamed under Xorg or what? Im sure the server still needs the info that used to be there. -- Reg.Clemens reg at dwf.com From barryn at pobox.com Thu May 20 20:58:04 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:58:04 -0700 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: <604aa7910405201115591917e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFA8@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> <604aa7910405201115591917e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040520205804.GA9595@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 02:15:49PM -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Up2date bug? Its not a bug if its not in bugzilla. If you are going to You didn't look hard enough. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88349 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89252 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102540 Even if these aren't the exact bug in question, chances are they're very closely related. (They're filed against Red Hat 9, but they're still open, and AFAIK they are still relevant to Fedora Core.) -Barry K. Nathan From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Thu May 20 21:04:07 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Where has XF86Config gone in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405202056.i4KKuA2M025023@orion.dwf.com> References: <200405202056.i4KKuA2M025023@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <3693.12.29.16.103.1085087047.squirrel@12.29.16.103> reg at dwf.com said: > Where has the XF86Config file gone in Fedora2? Please discuss FC2 in the Fedora-list. http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en.html "Users new to the X.org X11 implementation should take note of a few differences between it and the XFree86.org X11 implementation which shipped in previous Red Hat operating systems. In particular, the names of some files have changed, including the following: X Server Binary XFree86 X11: XFree86 X.org X11: Xorg X Server Configuration File XFree86 X11: /etc/X11/XF86Config X.org X11: /etc/X11/xorg.conf X Server Log File XFree86 X11: /var/log/XFree86.$DISPLAY.log X.org X11: /var/log/Xorg.$DISPLAY.log" -- William Hooper From shrek-m at gmx.de Thu May 20 21:04:50 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:04:50 +0200 Subject: Where has XF86Config gone in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405202056.i4KKuA2M025023@orion.dwf.com> References: <200405202056.i4KKuA2M025023@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <40AD1D72.2090906@gmx.de> reg at dwf.com wrote: >Where has the XF86Config file gone in Fedora2? > > fc2 is no test-release !! http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list !! >Actually, Ive done a 'find / -name XF86Config -print' >and it isnt any where to be found, so has it been >renamed under Xorg or what? > xorg.conf -- shrek-m From rpa4email at rogers.com Thu May 20 21:07:05 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:07:05 -0400 Subject: Where has XF86Config gone in FC2? In-Reply-To: <200405202056.i4KKuA2M025023@orion.dwf.com> References: <200405202056.i4KKuA2M025023@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <1085087225.13685.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-20-05 at 14:56 -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > Where has the XF86Config file gone in Fedora2? > > Actually, Ive done a 'find / -name XF86Config -print' > and it isnt any where to be found, so has it been > renamed under Xorg or what? > > Im sure the server still needs the info that used to > be there. It was changed quite some time ago. It is now xorg.conf Located in the same directory. RC. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Implementation issues might be and Tim Waugh has been working on improving utf-8 grep performance From alan at redhat.com Thu May 20 21:22:38 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:22:38 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <40ACC5D6.8050606@incentre.net> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <002601c43e6c$108d9200$6401a8c0@VAIO> <40ACC5D6.8050606@incentre.net> Message-ID: <20040520212238.GD15375@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 08:51:02AM -0600, Guy Fraser wrote: > >Any time I use sed or grep on my script I make sure to set LANG=c first. > >US.UTF-8 slows grep searches *way* down. It was so slow that I thought I > >had hardware problems - nope, just unicode slowing down my scripts. > > > >-eric wood > > > It also makes them case insensitive. #^%$$# ^&%*& !!! Common confusion - it doesn't do this but the order of sorting is dependant upon the language rather than numeric sort order of symbols. This is correct because these standards are in most cases hundreds of years older than Posix C locale. It does mean that in many languages [A-Z] is AaBbCcDd...Z, but you should be using the proper posix upper/lower set for such searches. From fedora at kensystem.com Thu May 20 21:26:07 2004 From: fedora at kensystem.com (Ken Johanson) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:26:07 -0600 Subject: x86_64 fc2 release : Adaptec AIC79XX : DV failed to configure device Message-ID: <40AD226F.6080005@kensystem.com> Hi all, Getting a domain validator error from new RAID and card combo, looking for advise as how to debug it further. Here's whats logged (seems a bit vague unfortunately): scsi4 : Adaptec AIC79XX PCI-X SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 1.3.11 aic7901: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, 512 SCBs scsi4:A:0:0: DV failed to configure device. Please file a bug report against this driver. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Ken From alan at redhat.com Thu May 20 21:28:55 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:28:55 -0400 Subject: dual boot XP / FC2 In-Reply-To: <1085076794.3586.30.camel@apple.bananas.hopto.org> References: <20040520004438.ECF8F740E3@hormel.redhat.com> <1085076794.3586.30.camel@apple.bananas.hopto.org> Message-ID: <20040520212855.GE15375@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 07:13:14PM +0100, Si Jones wrote: > Overall am impressed with FC2, and I think I will stay on it, the thing > I need to resolve is the sound, my onboard nvidia nforce2 sound dont > seem to have any sound....? It should have selected the i810 audio drivers. What is in lsmod and what happens if you run a mixer app ? From alan at redhat.com Thu May 20 21:33:39 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:33:39 -0400 Subject: Fedora2 confused about SATA drives. In-Reply-To: <200405202017.i4KKHNNo024470@orion.dwf.com> References: <20040520073904.GB11086@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200405202017.i4KKHNNo024470@orion.dwf.com> Message-ID: <20040520213339.GG15375@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 02:17:22PM -0600, reg at dwf.com wrote: > In LINUX, the two SATA disks are referred to as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb . > On the root statement for GRUB the first is referred to as /dev/hd0 GRUB isnt just a Linux app it uses its own notation according to BIOS numbering of devices. > I will assume that the root= on the kernel line would want /dev/sda, > but I have yet to change it from the root=LABEL=/1 syntax. If its /dev/sda in Linux then its /dev/sda for the root= From alan at redhat.com Thu May 20 21:39:38 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:39:38 -0400 Subject: x86_64 fc2 release : Adaptec AIC79XX : DV failed to configure device In-Reply-To: <40AD226F.6080005@kensystem.com> References: <40AD226F.6080005@kensystem.com> Message-ID: <20040520213938.GJ15375@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 03:26:07PM -0600, Ken Johanson wrote: > Getting a domain validator error from new RAID and card combo, looking > for advise as how to debug it further. Here's whats logged (seems a bit > vague unfortunately): The system ran tests involving sending data to the disk and back again and checking its the same (ie its cable testing). > scsi4 : Adaptec AIC79XX PCI-X SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 1.3.11 > > aic7901: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, > 512 SCBs > > scsi4:A:0:0: DV failed to configure device. Please file a bug report > against this driver. Check cables, disk etc and drop Justin Gibbs an email - adaptec pay him to work on that driver and he's good From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Thu May 20 21:43:57 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 05:43:57 +0800 Subject: development ISOs? In-Reply-To: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1085089437.4351.38.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 20:02, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi > > Can development ISOs be made available from rawhide? > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > > These would be the equivalent of FC2 + all rawhide updates, right? > > Thanks ftp://people.redhat.com/FedoraSync.sh A script I worte to rsync rawhide, and optionally make a DVD iso. Also has side benefits in that the default location of the local copy is in your public ftp directory, and will let you make a local yum repo out of it if you turn on anonymous ftp. I still have not found a "round tuit" to try to make CD isos from the tree. -- Chris Kloiber From fedora at kensystem.com Thu May 20 21:44:14 2004 From: fedora at kensystem.com (Ken Johanson) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:44:14 -0600 Subject: x86_64 fc2 release : Adaptec AIC79XX : DV failed to configure device In-Reply-To: <20040520213938.GJ15375@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40AD226F.6080005@kensystem.com> <20040520213938.GJ15375@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40AD26AE.2060103@kensystem.com> Thank you, I'll ask Justin and post any resolution back here when its found. Best, ken Alan Cox wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 03:26:07PM -0600, Ken Johanson wrote: > >>Getting a domain validator error from new RAID and card combo, looking >>for advise as how to debug it further. Here's whats logged (seems a bit >>vague unfortunately): > > > The system ran tests involving sending data to the disk and back again > and checking its the same (ie its cable testing). > > >>scsi4 : Adaptec AIC79XX PCI-X SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 1.3.11 >> >> aic7901: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, >>512 SCBs >> >>scsi4:A:0:0: DV failed to configure device. Please file a bug report >>against this driver. > > > Check cables, disk etc and drop Justin Gibbs an email - adaptec pay him > to work on that driver and he's good > > From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Thu May 20 21:47:43 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 05:47:43 +0800 Subject: development ISOs? In-Reply-To: <1085089437.4351.38.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1085089437.4351.38.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085089663.4351.40.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 05:43, Chris Kloiber wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 20:02, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > Hi > > > > Can development ISOs be made available from rawhide? > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/ > > > > These would be the equivalent of FC2 + all rawhide updates, right? > > > > Thanks > > ftp://people.redhat.com/FedoraSync.sh Dam, did it again: ftp://people.redhat.com/ckloiber/FedoraSync.sh > A script I worte to rsync rawhide, and optionally make a DVD iso. Also > has side benefits in that the default location of the local copy is in > your public ftp directory, and will let you make a local yum repo out of > it if you turn on anonymous ftp. I still have not found a "round tuit" > to try to make CD isos from the tree. > > -- > Chris Kloiber -- Chris Kloiber From leonard at den.ottolander.nl Thu May 20 21:57:22 2004 From: leonard at den.ottolander.nl (Leonard den Ottolander) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:57:22 +0200 Subject: development ISOs? In-Reply-To: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1085090242.4753.2.camel@athlon.localdomain> Hi Marius, > Can development ISOs be made available from rawhide? How often should these ISOs be produced? Every day? Every month? Or on any update of anaconda? Not much use in daily updates by ISO. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research From stan at ccs.neu.edu Thu May 20 22:19:29 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 18:19:29 -0400 Subject: subversion-perl needs missing libswigpl.so In-Reply-To: <20040520204905.GA3233@redhat.com> References: <1085060373.9697.18.camel@duergar> <20040520134731.GA18880@redhat.com> <1085073754.9697.27.camel@duergar> <20040520204905.GA3233@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085091569.9697.35.camel@duergar> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 16:49, Joe Orton wrote: > It's not actually new, the subversion package has had this dependency > for ages... > > joe > See I'm confused because: [root at duergar download]# rpm -q swig package swig is not installed Wonder how it I installed the package before, I never --nodep things like that... -sb From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Thu May 20 22:25:59 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 06:25:59 +0800 Subject: Making wine on FC2 x86_64 In-Reply-To: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> References: <17c92b17c461.17c46117c92b@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1085091959.4351.50.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:07, Greg Miller wrote: > Is it possible to install wine using the source RPM on FC2 for > x86_64? I have been trying but keep getting make errors due to an > unsuppoted processor. > > Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Well I wouldn't recommend it, but take the grapes, set them on top of the machine, then remove your shoes and socks (wash your feet!) and jump up and down on top. It helps if your processor is "supPOTed" to catch the juices. :) (Sorry, absolutely could not resist.) Honestly, you probably want to install an i386 version, and try to meet the dependencies instead. -- Chris Kloiber From tom.london at comcast.net Thu May 20 22:10:20 2004 From: tom.london at comcast.net (Tom London) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:10:20 -0700 Subject: FC2 install failure with selinux turned on.... Message-ID: <40AD2CCC.2050107@comcast.net> I did a fresh SELinux (and 'everything') installation of FC2 (wiping clean a previously working copy of FC2T3). That is, I entered 'selinux' at the installation/boot prompt. I repartitioned and formatted the drive into /boot, /, /home (all ext3) and swap partitons. I selected 'install everything', and the install and 'firstboot' appears to have worked properly. I specified a new user (tbl), NTP etc. when propted. When the system 'came up' and I logged in as my 'normal' user, I got the following error popup: Your home directory is listed as: '/home/tbl' but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to log in with the / (root) directory as your home directory? It is unlikely anything will work unless you use a failsafe session. So, something didn't setup quite right. (I'll boot single user and see if the directory got created and labeled incorrectly) It then return to the login screen, where I tried to login as root. This time I got the following: The Applet "gnome-settings-daemon" has quit unexpectedly. You can inform .....". Clicking the 'inform developers' button has not no apparent effect. Anyone see this/have hints? tom -- From csm at moongroup.com Thu May 20 23:00:11 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:00:11 -0400 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: <1085084591.3053.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFA8@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> <604aa7910405201115591917e5@mail.gmail.com> <1085084591.3053.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40AD387B.8060009@moongroup.com> Paul Iadonisi wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 14:15, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > >>On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:58:12 -0500, King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) >> wrote: >> >>>Anyhow, just an fyi so far I have had a pretty good run with FC2 although >>>the up2date bug and dual boot bug are annoying. >> >>Up2date bug? Its not a bug if its not in bugzilla. If you are going to > > > I seriously doubt that this is a bug, as the author claims. > Immediately after release, all the mirrors are typically maxed out. I > was manually downloading the kdelibs* FC1 updates yesterday, and it took > at least two, maybe three hours to get kdelibs-devel on a 1.1M-bit/sec > link. That rpm is only about 14MB. He-he. I launched a series of wget -c commands to nab up the x86_64 ISO's and it took 2 and a half days to get them from one of the mirrors! -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From mrsam at courier-mta.com Thu May 20 23:30:48 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:30:48 -0400 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFA8@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> <604aa7910405201115591917e5@mail.gmail.com> <1085084591.3053.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40AD387B.8060009@moongroup.com> Message-ID: Chuck Mead writes: > He-he. I launched a series of wget -c commands to nab up the x86_64 ISO's > and it took 2 and a half days to get them from one of the mirrors! Use the torrent. It took me only 24 hours to get the 4 GB binary+source x86_64 ISO. Now upgrading? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From csm at moongroup.com Thu May 20 23:32:24 2004 From: csm at moongroup.com (Chuck Mead) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:32:24 -0400 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFA8@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> <604aa7910405201115591917e5@mail.gmail.com> <1085084591.3053.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40AD387B.8060009@moongroup.com> Message-ID: <40AD4008.2070107@moongroup.com> Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Chuck Mead writes: > >> He-he. I launched a series of wget -c commands to nab up the x86_64 ISO's >> and it took 2 and a half days to get them from one of the mirrors! > > > Use the torrent. > > It took me only 24 hours to get the 4 GB binary+source x86_64 ISO. > > Now upgrading? I knew when I posted that someone was going to say that. It doesn't suit my environment very well and that's why I don't use it. -- csm at moongroup.com, head geek http://moongroup.com From mrsam at courier-mta.com Fri May 21 00:04:44 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:04:44 -0400 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 References: <916D957DA08F5948AD7598F12FAE71E73BDFA8@hou-msx02.houston.oao.com> <604aa7910405201115591917e5@mail.gmail.com> <1085084591.3053.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <40AD387B.8060009@moongroup.com> <40AD4008.2070107@moongroup.com> Message-ID: Chuck Mead writes: > Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> Chuck Mead writes: >> >>> He-he. I launched a series of wget -c commands to nab up the x86_64 ISO's >>> and it took 2 and a half days to get them from one of the mirrors! >> >> >> Use the torrent. >> >> It took me only 24 hours to get the 4 GB binary+source x86_64 ISO. >> >> Now upgrading? > > I knew when I posted that someone was going to say that. It doesn't suit > my environment very well and that's why I don't use it. Although I've been aware of bittorrent for quite some time, only recently have I actually installed it, and I had no idea how useful it is. It's biggest drawback -- and probably why it's not even more popular than it is right now -- is it's sloppy installation and packaging, and its miniscule documentation. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I myself am very happy with azureus http://azureus.sf.net -sb From mrsam at courier-mta.com Fri May 21 00:39:11 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:39:11 -0400 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. Message-ID: Add me to the list of those whose FC2 kernel crashes and burns during boot time. Bug 123860. At least I can limp along on the UP kernel. Well, perhaps not. In FC1, I can crash the 2.4 kernel, SMP or UP, anytime I want. Let's see if I can pronounce FC2 to be completely and totally useless. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From shahms at shahms.com Thu May 20 23:59:50 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms E. King) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:59:50 -0700 Subject: Cannot rip with *actual* SCSI CD-ROM drives In-Reply-To: <1085064744.23547.118.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <1084973850.3365.5.camel@scriabin.tannenrauch.ch> <1084986944.23547.111.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <1084988466.6026.7.camel@scriabin.tannenrauch.ch> <20040519182557.GA19996@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084993366.23547.115.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <1084994644.2782.12.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1085064744.23547.118.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <1085097590.4083.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm inclined to think that the tmscsim module works as well as at least one other module included in the Fedora kernel. I swapped out my Tekram adapter for an Adaptec AHA-7850 and am seeing exactly the same problems ripping CDs. To summarize: 1) The CD ROM drive shows up in everything (except /proc/scsi/scsi) as "Unknown CD Drive" 2) Ripping from it in any program other than cdrdao doesn't work. Even with the sg module loaded, the drives aren't seen by it. It must be possible to rip from these drives, but I certainly can't figure out how w/o sg. Are more/different patches for cdparanoia needed to handle this? It sucks because the only reason I have the SCSI card at all is for my Plextor CD-ROM drive which *still* rips 10 times faster than even the fastest IDE CD drive I've found (and it's almost 8 years old). It's a lot better with the 2.6 kernel than it was with 2.4, but is still significantly slower than the SCSI drive. Using strace on cdparanoia and cdda2wav, it appears as though they both fail when attempting to open the "sg" device O_RDWR|O_EXCL whereas cdrdao only ever opens it O_READ|O_EXCL. Don't know if that helps at all, but there it is. -- --Shahms From mrsam at courier-mta.com Fri May 21 01:16:26 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 21:16:26 -0400 Subject: atp870u.o module? Message-ID: One of the servers I have has a SCSI card that's supported by atp870u.o in kernel 2.4. I see that the kernel 2.6 source RPM does have the source code for the driver, but it appears that it does not get built in the binary kernel RPMs. Looks like that this card is no longer supported. Flame deleted. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wtogami at redhat.com Fri May 21 02:12:53 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:12:53 -1000 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40AD65A5.8020400@redhat.com> Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Add me to the list of those whose FC2 kernel crashes and burns during > boot time. Bug 123860. At least I can limp along on the UP kernel. > > Well, perhaps not. In FC1, I can crash the 2.4 kernel, SMP or UP, > anytime I want. > > Let's see if I can pronounce FC2 to be completely and totally useless. This is an unfair flame to make and simply goes to far in simply dismissing an entire operating system. This kind of comment is totally unhelpful for these reasons: 1) You provide ZERO information about your hardware. 2) You are not searching for a solution, you only declare Fedora to be crap. 3) SMP x86_64 works for MANY other people, including me. This is clearly not indicative of a useless operating system. This kind of post makes developers who put their blood, sweat and tears into trying their best to simply ignore you. Can we instead try to work toward a solution together, and constructively? http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/ As a first step, can you try the newer test kernels from Arjan's repository? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From wtogami at redhat.com Fri May 21 02:23:51 2004 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:23:51 -1000 Subject: atp870u.o module? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40AD6837.4030601@redhat.com> Sam Varshavchik wrote: > One of the servers I have has a SCSI card that's supported by atp870u.o > in kernel 2.4. > > I see that the kernel 2.6 source RPM does have the source code for the > driver, but it appears that it does not get built in the binary kernel > RPMs. Looks like that this card is no longer supported. > > Flame deleted. > I am glad you had the sense to delete your flame, but it is useless to complain here. You need to talk to upstream about this. Unfortunately even complaining upstream probably wont be effective either unless you have something to contribute. There are many other SCSI devices unsupported or broken in the upstream 2.6 kernel. In some cases Fedora volunteers and RH people have spent some time in fixing them (like Markus Lidel fixing I2O before FC2, or Alan Cox currently working on aacraid for upstream.) Other people with hardware, and the fire within their heart to make it work, is the only way this will work for any 2.6 kernel distribution. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From mrsam at courier-mta.com Fri May 21 02:41:58 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:41:58 -0400 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. References: <40AD65A5.8020400@redhat.com> Message-ID: Warren Togami writes: > Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> Add me to the list of those whose FC2 kernel crashes and burns during >> boot time. Bug 123860. At least I can limp along on the UP kernel. >> >> Well, perhaps not. In FC1, I can crash the 2.4 kernel, SMP or UP, >> anytime I want. >> >> Let's see if I can pronounce FC2 to be completely and totally useless. > > This is an unfair flame to make and simply goes to far in simply > dismissing an entire operating system. This kind of comment is totally > unhelpful for these reasons: > > 1) You provide ZERO information about your hardware. I submitted a complete traceback to bugzilla. Perhaps you missed that. The kernel crashed somewhere in its memory handler (cache_grow/kmem_cache_all/cache_alloc_refill) which later down the line was invoked by the ext3 driver. Does not look like hardware-specific to me. > 2) You are not searching for a solution, you only declare Fedora to be crap. Actually I've been searching for a solution for about three months now. > 3) SMP x86_64 works for MANY other people, including me. This is > clearly not indicative of a useless operating system. > > This kind of post makes developers who put their blood, sweat and tears > into trying their best to simply ignore you. Can we instead try to work > toward a solution together, and constructively? > > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/ > As a first step, can you try the newer test kernels from Arjan's repository? I most certainly did. The 2.6.6 kernel crashed in exactly the same manner. You know, I try to help when I can. This is similar to an incident that happened in the early 2.4 series, and I was actually was able to find and fix a boner in the apic interrupt handler. Unfortunately, things were much simpler back in those days. Now, these kinds of things are beyond my mere mortal powers to fix. And if it was only this crash it wouldn't be too bad. But having a bunch of SCSI modules pulled out, with hardly a mention in any README or RELEASE-NOTES is really not NICE. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbinpg at shaw.ca Fri May 21 03:13:52 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:13:52 -0700 Subject: FC2 automounter differences (hesitant to call them bugs.) In-Reply-To: <1085018142.24396.10.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> References: <1085018142.24396.10.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> Message-ID: <20040521031352.GE1960@shaw.ca> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 11:55:43AM +1000, Dan wrote: > I also noticed the changes and i checking out the autofs docs. > > With regards to your problem 1, I think its a known issue. > > Check out /usr/share/doc/autofs-4.1.2/README.direct > > > NOTE: Due to current design limitations, direct maps will take over an > entire directory hierarchy. What this means is, if your direct map > key is /usr/share/bilbo, then /usr will become an automount mount > point, mounting over the existing /usr. > Yes, I can confirm that this is how it works on my FC1 box as well. I just mounted to a dummy base directory and then symlinked it to how I wanted it to be accessed. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Fri May 21 04:02:37 2004 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:02:37 +1000 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 Message-ID: Take offence if you like but there is no current development release, and given the problems I have seen people having lately, FC2 probably should have been FC2T4. And that is why problems are being posted here! > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > William Hooper > Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 5:08 AM > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 > > > > King, John (Greg) (LMIT-HOU) said: > > Slashdot has a news item about an FC2 review > > Remind me again, what does this have to do with testing > "...Fedora Core > development releases"? > > -- > William Hooper > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > From jbinpg at shaw.ca Fri May 21 04:21:53 2004 From: jbinpg at shaw.ca (Jack Bowling) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 21:21:53 -0700 Subject: atp870u.o module? In-Reply-To: <40AD6837.4030601@redhat.com> References: <40AD6837.4030601@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040521042152.GF1960@shaw.ca> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:23:51PM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >One of the servers I have has a SCSI card that's supported by atp870u.o > >in kernel 2.4. > > > >I see that the kernel 2.6 source RPM does have the source code for the > >driver, but it appears that it does not get built in the binary kernel > >RPMs. Looks like that this card is no longer supported. > > > >Flame deleted. > > > > I am glad you had the sense to delete your flame, but it is useless to > complain here. You need to talk to upstream about this. Unfortunately > even complaining upstream probably wont be effective either unless you > have something to contribute. > > There are many other SCSI devices unsupported or broken in the upstream > 2.6 kernel. In some cases Fedora volunteers and RH people have spent > some time in fixing them (like Markus Lidel fixing I2O before FC2, or > Alan Cox currently working on aacraid for upstream.) Other people with > hardware, and the fire within their heart to make it work, is the only > way this will work for any 2.6 kernel distribution. Case in point: I have been waiting forever to see if anybody would build the 2.6 driver for my aging initio 9100u scsi card. Lo and behold, it appeared in Andrew Morton's tree a few builds ago. Haven't checked to see if it is in the mainline source yet but at least I know it is in the queue for me to try. -- Jack Bowling mailto: jbinpg at shaw.ca From tibbs at math.uh.edu Fri May 21 04:56:33 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 20 May 2004 23:56:33 -0500 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. In-Reply-To: References: <40AD65A5.8020400@redhat.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "SV" == Sam Varshavchik writes: SV> The kernel crashed somewhere in its memory handler SV> (cache_grow/kmem_cache_all/cache_alloc_refill) which later down SV> the line was invoked by the ext3 driver. Does not look like SV> hardware-specific to me. No problems here on my x86_64 machines. Since it might be useful to you, here's my hardware: 2 x Opteron 248 CPU Tyan S2882 motherboard (BIOS 1.01) 4GB RAM (4 x 1GB Corsair PC2700 ECC registered low profile DIMM) 1 cheap 40GB disk (WD400JB) connected via PATA Stock FC2 install ACPI is enabled, as is IO-APIC. selinux is disabled. No idea what you're running so you'll have to make any correlations. - J< From ByteEnable at austin.rr.com Fri May 21 05:28:51 2004 From: ByteEnable at austin.rr.com (ByteEnable) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 00:28:51 -0500 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. In-Reply-To: References: <40AD65A5.8020400@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405210028.51709.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> On Thursday 20 May 2004 21:41, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Warren Togami writes: > > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> Add me to the list of those whose FC2 kernel crashes and burns during > >> boot time. Bug 123860. At least I can limp along on the UP kernel. > >> > >> Well, perhaps not. In FC1, I can crash the 2.4 kernel, SMP or UP, > >> anytime I want. > >> > >> Let's see if I can pronounce FC2 to be completely and totally useless. > > > > This is an unfair flame to make and simply goes to far in simply > > dismissing an entire operating system. This kind of comment is totally > > unhelpful for these reasons: > > > > 1) You provide ZERO information about your hardware. > > I submitted a complete traceback to bugzilla. Perhaps you missed that. > The kernel crashed somewhere in its memory handler > (cache_grow/kmem_cache_all/cache_alloc_refill) which later down the line > was invoked by the ext3 driver. Does not look like hardware-specific to > me. > > > 2) You are not searching for a solution, you only declare Fedora to be > > crap. > > Actually I've been searching for a solution for about three months now. > > > 3) SMP x86_64 works for MANY other people, including me. This is > > clearly not indicative of a useless operating system. > > > > This kind of post makes developers who put their blood, sweat and tears > > into trying their best to simply ignore you. Can we instead try to work > > toward a solution together, and constructively? > > > > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/ > > As a first step, can you try the newer test kernels from Arjan's > > repository? > > I most certainly did. The 2.6.6 kernel crashed in exactly the same manner. > > You know, I try to help when I can. This is similar to an incident that > happened in the early 2.4 series, and I was actually was able to find and > fix a boner in the apic interrupt handler. Unfortunately, things were much > simpler back in those days. Now, these kinds of things are beyond my mere > mortal powers to fix. > > And if it was only this crash it wouldn't be too bad. But having a bunch > of SCSI modules pulled out, with hardly a mention in any README or > RELEASE-NOTES is really not NICE. He must have realized that he didn't have memory DIMM plugged in correctly...hehe.... Byte From mitr at volny.cz Fri May 21 05:29:20 2004 From: mitr at volny.cz (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 07:29:20 +0200 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <002601c43e6c$108d9200$6401a8c0@VAIO> <40ACC5D6.8050606@incentre.net> <1085068795.31348.0.camel@zeus.comcast.net> <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <20040521052920.GA18383@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:06:37AM -0700, Shahms King wrote: > Note that upper case letters always come after their lower case > counterparts ... in some locales. Try e.g. cs_CZ.UTF-8 for an counterexample. Mirek From manu at kromtek.com Fri May 21 06:48:57 2004 From: manu at kromtek.com (Manu Abraham) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:48:57 +0400 Subject: FC2 and X session Message-ID: <200405211048.57917.manu@kromtek.com> Hi, on FC2 logging out of an X seesion gives me a blank monitor. Nothing works (Ctrl+ Alt+Bkspc), (Ctrl+Alt+F1). I had this problem on Redhat 9/FC1 with a 2.6.x kernel. This problem appeared i believe in the 2.6.3 kernel. Is there a known fix ? Is it that i'm only having this problem ? Regards, Manu From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Fri May 21 07:29:22 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:29:22 +0200 Subject: FC2: VI and cursor key-error Message-ID: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> Hi, I installed Fedora Core 2 on a server. Now if I try to edit anything by vi, I can't use my cursorkeys in the insert mode anymore: Down = B Up = A Left = D Right = C This happens by local login and remote login by ssh. Any Ideas? Regards. G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu Fri May 21 07:54:33 2004 From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:54:33 +0300 Subject: FC2: VI and cursor key-error In-Reply-To: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> References: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <1085126073.2908.2.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> I don't know the answer but to speed up your help, I advise that you post the value of you environment variable TERM. On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 10:29, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Fedora Core 2 on a server. > > Now if I try to edit anything by vi, I can't use my cursorkeys in the > insert mode anymore: > > Down = B > Up = A > Left = D > Right = C > > This happens by local login and remote login by ssh. > > Any Ideas? > > Regards. > > G?tz > -- > G?tz Reinicke > IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet > > Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 > Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 > goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de > > Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg > Mathildenstr. 20 > 71638 Ludwigsburg > www.filmakademie.de > From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Fri May 21 07:57:17 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?UTF-8?B?R8O2dHogUmVpbmlja2U=?=) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:57:17 +0200 Subject: FC2: VI and cursor key-error In-Reply-To: <1085126073.2908.2.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> References: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> <1085126073.2908.2.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> Message-ID: <40ADB65D.3070003@filmakademie.de> printenv TERM: xterm-color so long... ...G?tz shmuel siegel schrieb: > I don't know the answer but to speed up your help, I advise that you > post the value of you environment variable TERM. > > > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 10:29, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I installed Fedora Core 2 on a server. >> >>Now if I try to edit anything by vi, I can't use my cursorkeys in the >>insert mode anymore: >> >>Down = B >>Up = A >>Left = D >>Right = C >> >>This happens by local login and remote login by ssh. >> >>Any Ideas? >> >>Regards. >> >>G?tz >>-- >>G?tz Reinicke >>IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet >> >>Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 >>Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 >>goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de >> >>Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg >>Mathildenstr. 20 >>71638 Ludwigsburg >>www.filmakademie.de >> > > > -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From michael at endbracket.net Fri May 21 08:00:42 2004 From: michael at endbracket.net (Michael Wardle) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 18:00:42 +1000 Subject: FC2: VI and cursor key-error In-Reply-To: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> References: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <1085126442.2623.4.camel@pepper.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:29, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Fedora Core 2 on a server. > > Now if I try to edit anything by vi, I can't use my cursorkeys in the > insert mode anymore: > > Down = B > Up = A > Left = D > Right = C It may be that your Vi is Vim in backwards compatible mode. Try setting either nocompatible or esckeys and see if cursor keys then work. If so, have a look at your ~/.vimrc and /etc/vimrc to enable them by default. Personally, I get used to Vi being vanilla Vi, and always issue "vim" if I want Vim's extra features. I think Red Hat/Fedora aliases vi to vim out of the box, however, so on Fedora 2 I'm not sure if there's supposed to be any difference. If you want to dig this deep, also have a look at Vim's compatible help page and the /etc/profile.d directory. -- Mike From michael at endbracket.net Fri May 21 08:09:53 2004 From: michael at endbracket.net (Michael Wardle) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 18:09:53 +1000 Subject: FC2: VI and cursor key-error In-Reply-To: <40ADB65D.3070003@filmakademie.de> References: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> <1085126073.2908.2.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <40ADB65D.3070003@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <1085126993.2623.13.camel@pepper.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:57, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > printenv TERM: > > xterm-color In case this is your problem (assuming Vim is compiled with Terminfo and your shell is Bash, both the default behaviors under Fedora), compare: # tput kcud1 | od -c against: # If the outputs are different, your terminal type is probably set incorrectly. In most cases, I believe xterm is the preferred terminal type for XTerm, GNOME Terminal, etc. xterm-color was a terminal type used predominantly in FreeBSD to differentiate an enhanced (probably XFree86) XTerm from a basic (probably X11R5 or X11R6) XTerm, however its use was frowned upon by some people. A starting point might be http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html. Hope this helps -- Mike From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Fri May 21 08:21:45 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?UTF-8?B?R8O2dHogUmVpbmlja2U=?=) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:21:45 +0200 Subject: FC2: VI and cursor key-error In-Reply-To: <1085126442.2623.4.camel@pepper.localdomain> References: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> <1085126442.2623.4.camel@pepper.localdomain> Message-ID: <40ADBC19.9070601@filmakademie.de> Hi, Michael Wardle schrieb: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:29, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I installed Fedora Core 2 on a server. >> >>Now if I try to edit anything by vi, I can't use my cursorkeys in the >>insert mode anymore: >> >>Down = B >>Up = A >>Left = D >>Right = C > > > It may be that your Vi is Vim in backwards compatible mode. Try setting > either nocompatible or esckeys and see if cursor keys then work. If so, > have a look at your ~/.vimrc and /etc/vimrc to enable them by default. I don't have ~/.vimrc and /etc/vimrc. Regards G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Fri May 21 08:23:59 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?UTF-8?B?R8O2dHogUmVpbmlja2U=?=) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:23:59 +0200 Subject: FC2: VI and cursor key-error In-Reply-To: <1085126993.2623.13.camel@pepper.localdomain> References: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> <1085126073.2908.2.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <40ADB65D.3070003@filmakademie.de> <1085126993.2623.13.camel@pepper.localdomain> Message-ID: <40ADBC9F.1070609@filmakademie.de> Michael Wardle schrieb: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:57, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > >>printenv TERM: >> >>xterm-color > > > In case this is your problem (assuming Vim is compiled with Terminfo and > your shell is Bash, both the default behaviors under Fedora), compare: > # tput kcud1 | od -c # tput kcud1 | od -c 0000000 033 O B 0000003 > > against: > # # ^[[B > If the outputs are different, your terminal type is probably set > incorrectly. In most cases, I believe xterm is the preferred terminal hmm AFAIK I didn't configured anything. This is a fresh installation of FC2. Regards G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Fri May 21 08:32:30 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?UTF-8?B?R8O2dHogUmVpbmlja2U=?=) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:32:30 +0200 Subject: FC2: VI and cursor key-error - solved In-Reply-To: <40ADBC9F.1070609@filmakademie.de> References: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> <1085126073.2908.2.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <40ADB65D.3070003@filmakademie.de> <1085126993.2623.13.camel@pepper.localdomain> <40ADBC9F.1070609@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <40ADBE9E.4060308@filmakademie.de> Hi I installed vim-common. Now the cursorkeys work. regards g?tz G?tz Reinicke schrieb: > > > Michael Wardle schrieb: > >> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:57, G?tz Reinicke wrote: >> >>> printenv TERM: >>> >>> xterm-color >> >> >> >> In case this is your problem (assuming Vim is compiled with Terminfo and >> your shell is Bash, both the default behaviors under Fedora), compare: >> # tput kcud1 | od -c > > > # tput kcud1 | od -c > 0000000 033 O B > 0000003 > >> >> against: >> # > > > # ^[[B > >> If the outputs are different, your terminal type is probably set >> incorrectly. In most cases, I believe xterm is the preferred terminal > > > hmm AFAIK I didn't configured anything. This is a fresh installation of > FC2. > > > Regards > > G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From michael at endbracket.net Fri May 21 08:54:47 2004 From: michael at endbracket.net (Michael Wardle) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 18:54:47 +1000 Subject: XTerm Terminfo inconsistencies In-Reply-To: <40ADBC9F.1070609@filmakademie.de> References: <40ADAFD2.5040805@filmakademie.de> <1085126073.2908.2.camel@shmuelhome.mine.nu> <40ADB65D.3070003@filmakademie.de> <1085126993.2623.13.camel@pepper.localdomain> <40ADBC9F.1070609@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <1085129686.2623.19.camel@pepper.localdomain> [...] > # tput kcud1 | od -c > 0000000 033 O B > 0000003 > > # > # ^[[B Can anyone explain why Terminfo has the application mode sequences rather than the cursor mode sequences, especially considering X sends cursor mode sequences by default? If XTerm is pretending to be a VT220, then shouldn't its Terminfo entries be alike for these keys? -- Mike From markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi Fri May 21 09:46:18 2004 From: markkukolkka at kolumbus.fi (Markku Kolkka) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:46:18 +0300 Subject: FC2 install failure with selinux turned on.... In-Reply-To: <40AD2CCC.2050107@comcast.net> References: <40AD2CCC.2050107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200405211246.18552.markkukolkka@kolumbus.fi> Tom London kirjoitti viestiss??n (l?hetysaika perjantai, 21. toukokuuta 2004 01:10): > It then return to the login screen, where I tried to login as > root. This > time I got the following: > The Applet "gnome-settings-daemon" has quit > unexpectedly. You can > inform .....". This one is explained in the release notes: "Performing an installation with SELinux enabled causes GNOME-related files to be created in the /root/ directory with the wrong security context. This will prevent a graphical login by the root account. The workaround is to login (as root) via the console and run the following command: setfiles /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts /root After issuing this command, graphical logins as root will work as expected." -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka at iki.fi From alan at redhat.com Fri May 21 09:52:07 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 05:52:07 -0400 Subject: Cannot rip with *actual* SCSI CD-ROM drives In-Reply-To: <1085097590.4083.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1084973850.3365.5.camel@scriabin.tannenrauch.ch> <1084986944.23547.111.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <1084988466.6026.7.camel@scriabin.tannenrauch.ch> <20040519182557.GA19996@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084993366.23547.115.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <1084994644.2782.12.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1085064744.23547.118.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <1085097590.4083.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040521095207.GA8028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:59:50PM -0700, Shahms E. King wrote: > Even with the sg module loaded, the drives aren't seen by it. It must be > possible to rip from these drives, but I certainly can't figure out how That is a known bug in the FC2 kernel in part. A bogus change hiding devices with other dev files from sg got in. The preferred device to rip from however is the /dev/sr device of the CD now, but that does need a new enough set of cd tools. Or just build a generic 2.6.6. kernel or wait for errata From alan at redhat.com Fri May 21 09:53:51 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 05:53:51 -0400 Subject: atp870u.o module? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040521095351.GB8028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:16:26PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I see that the kernel 2.6 source RPM does have the source code for the > driver, but it appears that it does not get built in the binary kernel > RPMs. Looks like that this card is no longer supported. Correct, and the vendor appears to no longer exist. I have one and its on my todo list to do a 2.6 port if nobody else does - but that may well be september From mab at darlug.org Fri May 21 09:54:32 2004 From: mab at darlug.org (Mark Bradbury) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:24:32 +0930 Subject: FC2 and grip from www.ferdora.us Message-ID: <1085133271.7511.6.camel@pluto.cdu.edu.au> Has anyone managed to rip a cd to mp3 on FC2 I installed lame and grip and xmms-mp3 from www.fedora.us and freshrpms I can play the cd in grip and I can play other mp3 I've riped before with xmms. But when I rip a cd with grip it makes the .wav(25M or so) and .mp3(5 meg or so) files but there is no sound when played with xmms. Strings on the wave files seems to only show the headers and strings on the mp3 show a lots of UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU or 555555555555555555555555 anyone done it? From alan at redhat.com Fri May 21 09:59:06 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 05:59:06 -0400 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. In-Reply-To: References: <40AD65A5.8020400@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040521095906.GC8028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 10:41:58PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I submitted a complete traceback to bugzilla. Perhaps you missed that. > The kernel crashed somewhere in its memory handler > (cache_grow/kmem_cache_all/cache_alloc_refill) which later down the line > was invoked by the ext3 driver. Does not look like hardware-specific to me. What hardware is in your box. My dual opteron seems very happy so it seems reasonable to assume it is driver or hardware specific in some way (or even dud ram). It might be interesting to try booting with various other cards removed and see if one specific card makes a mess. I've specifically seen this with the network drivers - if I load the driver for the ethernet in the docking bay (natsemi I believe) then the next pci device to do anything after it loads and finds no cards crashes the system in a similar way. From mrsam at courier-mta.com Fri May 21 11:12:27 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 07:12:27 -0400 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. References: <40AD65A5.8020400@redhat.com> <20040521095906.GC8028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Alan Cox writes: > On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 10:41:58PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> I submitted a complete traceback to bugzilla. Perhaps you missed that. >> The kernel crashed somewhere in its memory handler >> (cache_grow/kmem_cache_all/cache_alloc_refill) which later down the line >> was invoked by the ext3 driver. Does not look like hardware-specific to me. > > What hardware is in your box. My dual opteron seems very happy so it seems > reasonable to assume it is driver or hardware specific in some way (or even > dud ram). It's a Rhapsody HDAMA motherboard. Only the SMP kernel crashes. The UP kernel boots fine. > It might be interesting to try booting with various other cards removed and > see if one specific card makes a mess. I've specifically seen this with > the network drivers - if I load the driver for the ethernet in the docking > bay (natsemi I believe) then the next pci device to do anything after it > loads and finds no cards crashes the system in a similar way. The only thing plugged into the motherboard is an Adaptec 29320 controller. Can't really take that out and still be able to boot. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Fri May 21 11:34:16 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 07:34:16 -0400 Subject: F2CT3 configuration problem with Toshiba 490XCDT In-Reply-To: <40ACBF22.1080400@videotron.ca> References: <40ACBF22.1080400@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <40ADE938.1080100@insight.rr.com> Domenico Celi wrote: > Hello, > > My son and I have just finished installing the Fedora F2CT3 core on a > Toshiba 490XCDT laptop. Two problems were encountered : I had a 490CDT version that I gave away. It was not capable of any greater resolution than 640 x 480. The display used to bloom when you logged out. I'm not sure what the X in the model number means. It must be for the higher resolution. Did you try to select a n LCD display selection capable of 1024x768? As far as sound related issues go. I think that there was a misnaming of the driver for some of the sound cards. You might check the archives for messages related to sound. I think the issue was discussed about two months back on this list. > > - The internal ESS (ES1868) sound card wasn't recognized, and; > - The internal K56flex modem wasn't recognized. No help with the modem. I fought with a pcmcia NIC to connect. I don't know if the modem ever worked. > > Furthermore, we succeeded once to change the screen resolution from > 640x480 to 1024x768 but it reverts back to 640x480 everytime we reboot > or change user. Sometimes the whole screen freezes over and we can't do > anything Does it use the S3 virge driver? The blooming was bad on my similar laptop since RHL 7.2. Before that, the display closed down properly. > > BTW : This is not a dual boot machine. It would be a dedicated Linux box. > > Being new to Linux / Fedora, how can we correct this? We have been > browsing around but couldn't find any clues. If you want to run Linux on a laptop. I suggest a different laptop. I found the 490CDT fun to play with, in tests, but not trouble free. Stick with Linux. But if you can download RHL 7.2 and try to set it up. It should setup things to a more usable state. Good luck! Jim > > HELlllllllllp > Domenico > > -- Good day to deal with people in high places; particularly lonely stewardesses. From sds at epoch.ncsc.mil Fri May 21 12:32:02 2004 From: sds at epoch.ncsc.mil (Stephen Smalley) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:32:02 -0400 Subject: FC2 install failure with selinux turned on.... In-Reply-To: <40AD2CCC.2050107@comcast.net> References: <40AD2CCC.2050107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1085142722.2789.5.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 18:10, Tom London wrote: > I did a fresh SELinux (and 'everything') installation of FC2 (wiping > clean > a previously working copy of FC2T3). That is, I entered 'selinux' at > the installation/boot prompt. > > I repartitioned and formatted the drive into /boot, /, /home (all > ext3) > and swap partitons. > > I selected 'install everything', and the install and 'firstboot' > appears > to have worked properly. I specified a new user (tbl), NTP etc. when > propted. > > When the system 'came up' and I logged in as my 'normal' user, I got > the following error popup: > Your home directory is listed as: > '/home/tbl' > but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to log in with the > / (root) directory as your home directory? > > It is unlikely anything will work unless you use a failsafe > session. > > So, something didn't setup quite right. (I'll boot single user and > see > if the directory got created and labeled incorrectly) > > It then return to the login screen, where I tried to login as root. > This > time I got the following: > The Applet "gnome-settings-daemon" has quit > unexpectedly. You can > inform .....". > > Clicking the 'inform developers' button has not no apparent effect. > > Anyone see this/have hints? I saw the same behavior upon performing fresh installs of FC2. Workaround was to perform a console login and then run fixfiles relabel. But I agree that this is a regression; FC2 test2 didn't have this problem for me upon fresh installs. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 21 12:34:36 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1531.12.29.16.103.1085142876.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au said: > Take offence if you like but there is no current development release, > and given the problems I have seen people having lately, FC2 probably > should have been FC2T4. And that is why problems are being posted here! Doesn't offend me at all. To counterpoint: a) Just because you feel that it should have been a test release doesn't mean it was. There are testing-updates to discuss. b) It still doesn't apply to a "review posted on slashdot". -- William Hooper From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri May 21 12:38:10 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:38:10 -0400 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <200405092223.08309.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405092223.08309.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <200405210838.15950.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have been playing with suse9.1. Yast is very nice, something like this is absolutely needed for Fedora. I really missed yum though. I did build/install apt, but it's just not the same. AFAICT, Suse has a much more closed development than Fedora. It was not easy to find 3rd party contributions. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFArfg2MDqogpR5tkMRApC5AJ9LzvPggAxnlW4d3qGlzERAOmuM8ACdFzRp zDotoY1kfKu7smwSrdVPk+4= =iq+v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From thomasz at hostmaster.org Fri May 21 12:39:30 2004 From: thomasz at hostmaster.org (Thomas Zehetbauer) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:39:30 +0200 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. In-Reply-To: References: <40AD65A5.8020400@redhat.com> <20040521095906.GC8028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085143170.23890.12.camel@hostmaster.org> On Fre, 2004-05-21 at 13:12, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > It's a Rhapsody HDAMA motherboard. Only the SMP kernel crashes. The UP > kernel boots fine. I've seen 2.6.[0-4] SMP crashing because of my Digital 21041 NIC. > The only thing plugged into the motherboard is an Adaptec 29320 controller. > Can't really take that out and still be able to boot. You could boot from a floppy. Additionally you could try to build modules for the peripherals included on your mainboard. Finally I would like to say that Fedora x86_64 is running fine on my dual Opteron/Tyan Thunder K8W here. Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger thomasz at hostmaster.org for key The horizon of many people is a circle with a radius of zero. They call this their point of view. From marshall at novafoundry.com Fri May 21 13:13:50 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:13:50 -0400 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. In-Reply-To: References: <40AD65A5.8020400@redhat.com> <20040521095906.GC8028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085145230.25256.2.camel@grendel> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 07:12, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > It's a Rhapsody HDAMA motherboard. Only the SMP kernel crashes. The UP > kernel boots fine. > How much ram? I'm having a problem at work on a box with 6 gigs, but if I knock it down to 4 (or use the UP kernel) it boots fine. ... still trying to determine the actual cause of that in my case. -- Marshall From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Fri May 21 13:14:29 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:14:29 +0200 Subject: FC2: Adaptec Error scsi0:A:1:0: DV failed to configure device Message-ID: <40AE00B5.1010109@filmakademie.de> Hi, I installed FC2 on a Dell Poweredge 1650 with a second SCSI Card. This is a Adaptec 29160. There is one external hardware-raid-box attached to it. While booting, I get an error: scsi0:A:1:0: DV failed to configure device. Please file a bug report The dmesg output is: SCSI subsystem initialized scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.36 aic7892: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs scsi0:A:1:0: DV failed to configure device. Please file a bug report against this driver. (scsi0:A:1): 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz DT, offset 31, 16bit) Vendor: easyRAID Model: X8S Rev: 0001 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 scsi0:A:1:0: Tagged Queuing enabled. Depth 4 SCSI device sda: 2181545984 512-byte hdwr sectors (1116952 MB) SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back sda: sda1 Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Red Hat/Adaptec aacraid driver (1.1.2-lk1 May 8 2004) AAC0: kernel 2.8.4 build 6089 AAC0: monitor 2.8.4 build 6089 AAC0: bios 2.8.0 build 6089 AAC0: serial 7c3c10d3fafaf001 AAC0: 64 Bit PAE enabled This error didn't appear in FC2-test 3, so what could be broken?? Any ideas? Regards G?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From fedora at birch.pointclark.net Fri May 21 13:38:15 2004 From: fedora at birch.pointclark.net (yeti) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 23:38:15 +1000 Subject: x86_64 fc2 release : Adaptec AIC79XX : DV failed to configure device In-Reply-To: <40AD226F.6080005@kensystem.com> Message-ID: <200405211338.i4LDcUHA024704@mx3.redhat.com> I had similar problem - same error messages anyway - with a big Sun Raid box. It turned out that I'd stuffed up on the configuration of the raid box, and not mapped a SCSI Logical Unit Number for the logical disk on the channel that the host was talking to. I accidentally fixed that, and the problem went away. My interpretation of the "DV failed to configure device" message is that no devices were found. Coincidentally, it was an Ultra320 controller, and the raid box could only talk at 160 MHz. This can be set in the SCSI configuration. Good luck! Yeti. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ken Johanson Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 7:26 AM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: x86_64 fc2 release : Adaptec AIC79XX : DV failed to configure device Hi all, Getting a domain validator error from new RAID and card combo, looking for advise as how to debug it further. Here's whats logged (seems a bit vague unfortunately): scsi4 : Adaptec AIC79XX PCI-X SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 1.3.11 aic7901: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, 512 SCBs scsi4:A:0:0: DV failed to configure device. Please file a bug report against this driver. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Ken -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From fedora at birch.pointclark.net Fri May 21 13:45:12 2004 From: fedora at birch.pointclark.net (yeti) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 23:45:12 +1000 Subject: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 In-Reply-To: <1085098471.9697.40.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <200405211345.i4LDjRGG025554@mx1.redhat.com> I've just completed my first sojourn into the torrent, using BT under RH9 with 128MB it was not useable. It was unstable and made the machine unresponsive. It peaked at about 10KB/s but then hung. That was on my external firewall. Once I set up port forwarding to an internal FC2T3 machine with 512MB however, BT ran like a dream, downloaded at well over 200KB/s, and won me over. Yeti. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Stan Bubrouski Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 10:15 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: saw this review posted on slashdot of FC2 On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 20:04, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Although I've been aware of bittorrent for quite some time, only recently > have I actually installed it, and I had no idea how useful it is. > > It's biggest drawback -- and probably why it's not even more popular than it > is right now -- is it's sloppy installation and packaging, and its miniscule > documentation. > While BT is itself opensource there are a number of superior opensource alternatives. I myself am very happy with azureus http://azureus.sf.net -sb -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From alewis at jumboclassifieds.com Fri May 21 15:06:14 2004 From: alewis at jumboclassifieds.com (Andy Lewis) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:06:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: SELinux error and up2date Message-ID: Hello all, I am using up2date to get the latest updates for Fedora and am getting the following errors: /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:zebra_exec_t on line number 1834 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:zebra_log_t on line number 1835 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context system_u:object_r:zebra_conf_t on line number 1836 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_home_dir_t on line number 1842 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_home_t on line number 1843 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:httpd_staff_content_t on line number 1844 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_gpg_secret_t on line number 1845 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_home_irc_t on line number 1846 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_mozilla_rw_t on line number 1847 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_mozilla_rw_t on line number 1848 /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: invalid context root:object_r:staff_mozilla_rw_t on line number 1849 How can I stop these errors? Regards, Andy From vslim at insightbb.com Fri May 21 15:09:19 2004 From: vslim at insightbb.com (slim) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:09:19 -0500 Subject: Question about Questions Message-ID: <1085152158.7829.1.camel@shovelhead> Should FC2 questions be asked here, Or over at fedora-list thanks From dr at cluenet.de Fri May 21 15:13:27 2004 From: dr at cluenet.de (Daniel Roesen) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:13:27 +0200 Subject: Question about Questions In-Reply-To: <1085152158.7829.1.camel@shovelhead>; from vslim@insightbb.com on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:09:19AM -0500 References: <1085152158.7829.1.camel@shovelhead> Message-ID: <20040521171327.A21812@homebase.cluenet.de> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:09:19AM -0500, slim wrote: > Should FC2 questions be asked here, Or over at fedora-list fedora-list This list here is for test releases and package QA testing. Regards, Daniel From shahms at shahms.com Fri May 21 14:15:53 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms E. King) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 07:15:53 -0700 Subject: Cannot rip with *actual* SCSI CD-ROM drives In-Reply-To: <20040521095207.GA8028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1084973850.3365.5.camel@scriabin.tannenrauch.ch> <1084986944.23547.111.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <1084988466.6026.7.camel@scriabin.tannenrauch.ch> <20040519182557.GA19996@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1084993366.23547.115.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <1084994644.2782.12.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> <1085064744.23547.118.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <1085097590.4083.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040521095207.GA8028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085148953.4089.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 02:52, Alan Cox wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:59:50PM -0700, Shahms E. King wrote: > > Even with the sg module loaded, the drives aren't seen by it. It must be > > possible to rip from these drives, but I certainly can't figure out how > > That is a known bug in the FC2 kernel in part. A bogus change hiding devices > with other dev files from sg got in. The preferred device to rip from > however is the /dev/sr device of the CD now, but that does need a new enough > set of cd tools. Or just build a generic 2.6.6. kernel or wait for errata Good to know, thanks. I filed a bug in bugzilla about this as well. Also, there are no /dev/sr? entries without udev (and then they're only in /udev). I'm also assuming the cd tools shipped with Fedora aren't "new enough" because even using the /udev/sr0 entry I get the same problems. -- --Shahms From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri May 21 15:37:14 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:37:14 -0400 Subject: yum site for RH/Enterprise? Message-ID: <200405211137.19470.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there a yum repos site for addtions to RH/Enterprise? A friend wants to grab k3b. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAriItMDqogpR5tkMRAvXRAJsEowOT/cGbOYIrNQc+OkAQj1d+qwCfWlqT OsFGbjdrR50J376oLScxeUM= =0Uwq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 21 15:45:52 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: yum site for RH/Enterprise? In-Reply-To: <200405211137.19470.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200405211137.19470.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <2948.12.29.16.103.1085154352.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Neal Becker said: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Is there a yum repos site for addtions to RH/Enterprise? You would probably have better luck on the RHEL list. http://www.redhat.com/archives/taroon-list/ -- William Hooper From mark at harddata.com Fri May 21 15:46:22 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:46:22 -0600 Subject: Anaconda - SATA_SiL Support In-Reply-To: <00bc01c436b0$af2db9d0$f901a8c0@bananas.hopto.org> References: <00bc01c436b0$af2db9d0$f901a8c0@bananas.hopto.org> Message-ID: <200405210946.22888.mark@harddata.com> On May 10, 2004 11:03 am, "Si Jones" wrote: > If kernel 2.6.5 in t3 has Silicon Support but Anaconda has not been told > about it, then surely after booting off the cd go to a shell and alter a > file to get it to find my drive / controller? try modprobing sata_sil. #modprobe sata_si that should load the driver and allow you to continue. BTW why are you installing T3 when the release version is out? -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From mark at harddata.com Fri May 21 15:47:17 2004 From: mark at harddata.com (Mark Lane) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:47:17 -0600 Subject: Anaconda - SATA_SiL Support In-Reply-To: <00bc01c436b0$af2db9d0$f901a8c0@bananas.hopto.org> References: <00bc01c436b0$af2db9d0$f901a8c0@bananas.hopto.org> Message-ID: <200405210947.17654.mark@harddata.com> On May 10, 2004 11:03 am, "Si Jones" wrote: > If kernel 2.6.5 in t3 has Silicon Support but Anaconda has not been told > about it, then surely after booting off the cd go to a shell and alter a > file to get it to find my drive / controller? > > Can anyone tell what file(s) may need to be alter so I can install T3... > am really wanting to try it but am unable to!!! > > Cheers Sorry about the second comment I didn't notice this was a May 10 post. -- Mark Lane, CET mailto:mark at harddata.com Hard Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com T: 01-780-456-9771 F: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada, T5X 1Y3 --> Ask me about our Excellent 1U Systems! <-- From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Fri May 21 15:50:19 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:50:19 -0400 Subject: SATA recommendation - via or promise? Message-ID: <200405211150.20448.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am going to install FC2 on x86_64 SATA MSI MB (using LVM stripping). The MB has both promise and via controller. Any reason to prefer one or the other? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAriU7MDqogpR5tkMRAu07AJ9Skm/NIZKd6ZICW6ltExXPi6WvsgCfb7lf b6+R7QaXQZ7Khf4jVEsBy6Q= =fq6a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From si at bananas.hopto.org Fri May 21 16:28:33 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:28:33 +0100 Subject: dual boot XP / FC2 In-Reply-To: <20040520233105.97986759D5@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040520233105.97986759D5@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085156913.7859.5.camel@apple.bananas.hopto.org> The drivers seem to have loaded as below from lsmod: snd_pcm_oss 40740 0 snd_intel8x0 26280 0 gameport 3328 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_mpu401_uart 4864 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_mixer_oss 13824 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_emu10k1 71172 0 snd_rawmidi 17184 2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_emu10k1 snd_pcm 68872 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1 snd_timer 17156 1 snd_pcm snd_seq_device 6152 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi snd_ac97_codec 50436 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1 snd_page_alloc 7940 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm snd_util_mem 3200 1 snd_emu10k1 snd_hwdep 6276 1 snd_emu10k1 snd 38372 12 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep soundcore 6112 1 snd I do have a SB Live 5.1 as well, could this be inferring? but on anything that makes sound it wont come out of the nvidia. I have just tested the output of my SBLive card and it works, I ran the soundcard configuration to test, but when i try and test the nvidia it plays out of the SB? From: Alan Cox Subject: Re: dual boot XP / FC2 To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: <20040520212855.GE15375 at devserv.devel.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 07:13:14PM +0100, Si Jones wrote: > Overall am impressed with FC2, and I think I will stay on it, the thing > I need to resolve is the sound, my onboard nvidia nforce2 sound dont > seem to have any sound....? It should have selected the i810 audio drivers. What is in lsmod and what happens if you run a mixer app ? From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Fri May 21 17:33:05 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 18:33:05 +0100 Subject: Burning ISO to CD Message-ID: <40AE3D51.3000500@ntlworld.com> Hi, This is slightly off topic but I'm having severe problems burning the FC2 ISOs to CD with FC2t3. A conservative guess is that 1 in 5 CDs are working OK the rest are landfill and this is obviously frustrating my move to FC2. I'm burning with Nautilus' "Write to CD" option (i.e. right clicking on the ISO file) and I've checked the MD5sum of the ISO beforehand. I've tried 3 different drives (Samsung SM-332B, SM-352B and an MSI 52x CD-R drive) and tried Maximum Available and 2x speed and both fail. (I'm checking the md5sum of /dev/cdrom and this comes up with the wrong number and an error message) The media are Sony 700MB CD-Rs. The platform is Intel 845GERG2 board with a P4 CPU. So: am I doing anything wrong? Should Nautilus be able to write reliably? Are my drives or media no good? Is this a known problem in FC2t3? Will I ever be able to install FC2?! I'm very grateful for any pointers in troubleshooting this, Leon... From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Fri May 21 17:43:20 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 13:43:20 -0400 Subject: New test releases. Message-ID: I know I know. It's crazy of me to ask considering FC2 was just released, but the kid in me needs to know when the next test release will be out and what the development schedule is going to be. -- Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt. Mark Haney Network, Database and Systems Administration DoctorDirectory.com Inc. From nkadel at merl.com Fri May 21 18:05:17 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:05:17 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <023701c43f5e$2c7ad660$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest L. Williams Jr." To: "Fedora-test-list" Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:32 PM Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora > Hi, > > Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in > Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) > > Why is the default US.UTF-8? So do many open source man pages. Frankly, US.UTF-8 bites goat rocks. It consistently messes up sorting, for example, since there is no way in theat locale to get sorting to be case sensitive. Frankly, the default locale should be "C" or "POSIX", both of which do sorting correctly and both of which are far more robust than a great deal of the unfortunately mis-handled Unicode currently in use, especially for documentation. From nkadel at merl.com Fri May 21 18:08:25 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:08:25 -0400 Subject: howto get to FC2 from FC2 test 3 References: <40AC988A.5030009@stardel.com> Message-ID: <025501c43f5e$9c6077a0$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Normandy" To: ; "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:37 AM Subject: Re: howto get to FC2 from FC2 test 3 > I changed my FC2T3 system to FC2 by going to the /etc directory, and, as > root, changed yum.conf.rpmnew to yum.comf. You can also just install the new "fedora-release" package, which changes the contents of /etc/issue.net, /etc/redhat-release, and /etc/fedora-release appropriately. From nkadel at merl.com Fri May 21 18:11:37 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:11:37 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix><002601c43e6c$108d9200$6401a8c0@VAIO> <40ACC5D6.8050606@incentre.net><1085068795.31348.0.camel@zeus.comcast.net> <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <029b01c43f5f$0eaabcd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shahms King" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: Re: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora > Note that upper case letters always come after their lower case > counterparts but before the next letter, so it's not case insensitive > and is, in general, what most people expect. That's what "sort -i" is for. There is *no*, I repeat *no* way to get sort to operate as a case-sensitive operation short of resetting your locale before beginning. And while many folks from the Windows world may expect case-insensitivity, the UNIX world programmers know better. Case matters, a *lot*. From alan at redhat.com Fri May 21 18:23:43 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:23:43 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <023701c43f5e$2c7ad660$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <023701c43f5e$2c7ad660$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <20040521182343.GA23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:05:17PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > So do many open source man pages. Frankly, US.UTF-8 bites goat rocks. It > consistently messes up sorting, for example, since there is no way in theat > locale to get sorting to be case sensitive. Sorting is always case senstivie in US.UTF-8. You just need to learn that a) sorting is defined by hundreds of years old specifications in the USA, b) A-Za-z is not US sort order and c) how to use the tools right From alan at redhat.com Fri May 21 18:28:21 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:28:21 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <029b01c43f5f$0eaabcd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <029b01c43f5f$0eaabcd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <20040521182821.GB23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:11:37PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > That's what "sort -i" is for. There is *no*, I repeat *no* way to get sort > to operate as a case-sensitive operation short of resetting your locale > before beginning. You can repeat all you like you are still confused about it. Simple demo. Input file consists of abacus and Abacus randomly ordered LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sort demo abacus abacus abacus abacus abacus abacus abacus abacus Abacus Abacus Abacus Abacus Abacus Abacus Abacus Abacus Abacus Output is sorted. From shahms at shahms.com Fri May 21 18:28:51 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:28:51 -0700 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <023701c43f5e$2c7ad660$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <023701c43f5e$2c7ad660$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <1085164131.23547.164.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> > > Why is the default US.UTF-8? So characters that are not in ASCII can be displayed and you get *correct* sorting, date and numeric formatting. > So do many open source man pages. Frankly, US.UTF-8 bites goat rocks. It > consistently messes up sorting, for example, since there is no way in theat > locale to get sorting to be case sensitive. If by "messes up sorting" you mean "sorts correctly" then yes, en_US.UTF-8 messes up sorting. By no stretch of the imagination is: A B C a b c a "correct" sort, except numerically. Additionally, stop saying that the sorting is case insensitive. It is *not*. It most certainly is case sensitive according to the defined locale. If it were not case sensitive the list: b,c,B,A,a,C would not have a determinate sort order: A,a,B,b,C,c. And the list a,A,b,B,c,C would not change at all. I'm sorry, but in English 'Z' does not come before 'a'. The problems with American English in the 'C' locale are minor. The problems with non-American English are slightly worse. The problems with non-English characters are significant. This is at least the second time I've seen someone claim that sorting in these locales is not "case sensitive". Stop making this assertion, it is flat out wrong. There is nothing at all correct about it. Nothing. So stop saying it. You can argue about whether or not the sorting is correct (it is), but you cannot claim it is case insensitive (it is not). > Frankly, the default locale should be "C" or "POSIX", both of which do > sorting correctly and both of which are far more robust than a great deal of > the unfortunately mis-handled Unicode currently in use, especially for > documentation. Wrong, both "C" and "POSIX" sort incorrectly (numerically rather than lexicographically). Seriously, go read a dictionary; if you find 'Zapatista' before 'aardvark' I'll eat my hat, words, shoes and anything else you can think of. The correct solution is to *fix the programs that are broken*. Hell, even a wrapper script that breaks^Wsets the locale will work as a temporary workaround. Given that ASCII is a subset of UTF-8 (for the most part) the applications that are breaking on UTF-8 are simply buggy. The solution to these bugs is to fix the apps, not break every single application that handles UTF-8 correctly (which is most of them these days). -- Shahms King From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 21 18:29:08 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New test releases. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3154.12.29.16.103.1085164148.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Mark Haney said: > I know I know. It's crazy of me to ask considering FC2 was just released, > but the kid in me needs to know when the next test release will be out and > what the development schedule is going to be. Updates will be posted where they always are: http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ -- William Hooper From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Fri May 21 18:32:24 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:32:24 -0400 Subject: New test releases. In-Reply-To: <3154.12.29.16.103.1085164148.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <3154.12.29.16.103.1085164148.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:29:08 -0400 (EDT), William Hooper wrote: > Updates will be posted where they always are: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > I know that. I was hoping, since there's been no update to the page on the new schedule that I could get advance notice before the page is updated. -- Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt. Mark Haney Network, Database and Systems Administration DoctorDirectory.com Inc. From cmadams at hiwaay.net Fri May 21 18:42:19 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 13:42:19 -0500 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <20040521182343.GA23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <023701c43f5e$2c7ad660$b28ccb89@zeppo> <20040521182343.GA23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040521184219.GE1325461@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Alan Cox said: > You just need to learn that a) sorting is defined by hundreds of years > old specifications in the USA, b) A-Za-z is not US sort order and c) > how to use the tools right The thing about the en_US locales and sorting that annoys me is that "ls -A" treats the leading "." funny. Dotfiles are interspersed with non-dotfiles, with ".ccc" sorting after "cbb" but before "Ccc". I guess ".c" is treated as a single character, with the sort order being ".c", "C", and "c"? That's just confusing. That may follow some definition, but it breaks long-time Unix "ls -A" sorting where dotfiles come first. On my personal systems, I sometimes just put "LC_COLLATE=C" in /etc/sysconfig/i18n. I know that is "wrong", but I like what I'm used to. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From shahms at shahms.com Fri May 21 19:05:40 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:05:40 -0700 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <20040521184219.GE1325461@hiwaay.net> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <023701c43f5e$2c7ad660$b28ccb89@zeppo> <20040521182343.GA23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040521184219.GE1325461@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <1085166340.23547.180.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 11:42, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Alan Cox said: > > You just need to learn that a) sorting is defined by hundreds of years > > old specifications in the USA, b) A-Za-z is not US sort order and c) > > how to use the tools right > > The thing about the en_US locales and sorting that annoys me is that "ls > -A" treats the leading "." funny. Dotfiles are interspersed with > non-dotfiles, with ".ccc" sorting after "cbb" but before "Ccc". I guess > ".c" is treated as a single character, with the sort order being ".c", > "C", and "c"? That was not something I had noticed until you mentioned it. Oddly, I don't have an opinion on that issue at the moment ;-) > That's just confusing. That may follow some definition, but it breaks > long-time Unix "ls -A" sorting where dotfiles come first. On my > personal systems, I sometimes just put "LC_COLLATE=C" in > /etc/sysconfig/i18n. I know that is "wrong", but I like what I'm used > to. While the sorting may be wrong, that's the "correct" way to solve the problem: change you local configuration. You're not advocating changing the default to "broken". -- Shahms King From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 21 19:17:42 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:17:42 -0400 Subject: howto get to FC2 from FC2 test 3 In-Reply-To: <025501c43f5e$9c6077a0$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <40AC988A.5030009@stardel.com> <025501c43f5e$9c6077a0$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <1085167062.12240.245.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 14:08, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elaine Normandy" > To: ; "For testers of Fedora Core development > releases" > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:37 AM > Subject: Re: howto get to FC2 from FC2 test 3 > > > > I changed my FC2T3 system to FC2 by going to the /etc directory, and, as > > root, changed yum.conf.rpmnew to yum.comf. > > You can also just install the new "fedora-release" package, which changes > the contents of /etc/issue.net, /etc/redhat-release, and /etc/fedora-release > appropriately. The fedora-release package should get updated automatically, at least mine did on "yum upgrade", but if you don't fix yum.conf you'll still be pointed at rawhide [development] rather than FC2 [base] and [updates-released]. While you're at it, be sure to edit yum.conf and insert your favorite mirror[s], and perhaps add some nice 3rd party repos - many are now on-line. Phil From paul at dishone.st Fri May 21 19:18:57 2004 From: paul at dishone.st (Paul Jakma) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 20:18:57 +0100 (IST) Subject: FC2 and mozilla and i586 Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone have the FC2 mozilla 1.6 package working on FC2 on i586? It isnt for me, and i'm trying to figure out whether it's an NPTL issue. Before I continue tearing my hair out, I'd be glad to hear from anyone running FC2 on i586 and a yay or no as to whether mozilla runs. (Firefox does work, strangely). NB: Why does this list set reply-to to list? It's kind of evil... regards, -- Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie paul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A warning: do not ever send email to spam at dishone.st Fortune: Spelling is a lossed art. From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 21 19:29:59 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:29:59 -0400 Subject: FC2 and mozilla and i586 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085167799.12240.251.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 15:18, Paul Jakma wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have the FC2 mozilla 1.6 package working on FC2 on i586? > > It isnt for me, and i'm trying to figure out whether it's an NPTL > issue. Before I continue tearing my hair out, I'd be glad to hear > from anyone running FC2 on i586 and a yay or no as to whether mozilla > runs. > > (Firefox does work, strangely). This FC2-release question should be asked on fedora-list at redhat.com since this is the fedora-test-list, and you'll get a wider audience there anyway. > > NB: Why does this list set reply-to to list? It's kind of evil... To make sure replies get to the list and not just to the previous sender? fedora-list does the same, as do many other lists. Phil From mike.lurk at sympatico.ca Fri May 21 19:32:53 2004 From: mike.lurk at sympatico.ca (Mike Lurk) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:32:53 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 Message-ID: <1085167973.2861.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> In the latest kernel (2.6.6) the intel i810 graphics do not run anything openGL, all it does is lock up the system. With the old kernel (2.6.5) it worked. One other point, where has the kernel-source file gone to. Have I overlooked something. Mike Lurk From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 21 19:36:09 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 20:36:09 +0100 Subject: More dependancy failures Message-ID: <1085168169.4992.2.camel@T7.linux> Hi, yum update is giving me this load back... Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 2 - Development tree Server: Evolution Devel Snaps Server: Mono Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Unreleased Updates Testing Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies .conflict between initscripts and pppd Package rusers-server needs libproc.so.3.2.0, this is not available. Package rusers-server needs libproc.so.3.2.0(_3_1_14), this is not available. Package gnome-bluetooth needs libcrlayeng.so.1, this is not available. Package librsvg2 needs libcrlayeng.so.1, this is not available. Package nautilus needs libcrlayeng.so.1, this is not available. Package gnome-games needs libcrlayeng.so.1, this is not available. Package gimp needs libcrlayeng.so.1, this is not available. Package gnome-bluetooth needs libcroco.so.1, this is not available. Package librsvg2 needs libcroco.so.1, this is not available. Package nautilus needs libcroco.so.1, this is not available. Package gnome-games needs libcroco.so.1, this is not available. Package gimp needs libcroco.so.1, this is not available. Package gnome-bluetooth needs libcrseleng.so.2, this is not available. Package librsvg2 needs libcrseleng.so.2, this is not available. Package nautilus needs libcrseleng.so.2, this is not available. Package gnome-games needs libcrseleng.so.2, this is not available. Package gimp needs libcrseleng.so.2, this is not available. What gives and where can I get these files from? TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From alan at redhat.com Fri May 21 19:38:12 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:38:12 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 In-Reply-To: <1085167973.2861.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085167973.2861.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040521193812.GB3235@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0400, Mike Lurk wrote: > In the latest kernel (2.6.6) the intel i810 graphics do not run anything > openGL, all it does is lock up the system. With the old kernel (2.6.5) > it worked. One other point, where has the kernel-source file gone to. > Have I overlooked something. kernel-foo.src.rpm is the source package used to generate the kernels we ship. If you are building 2.6.6 you might need to disable 4G+4G support unless one of the very late FC2 fixes also made 2.6.6 in time. From si at bananas.hopto.org Fri May 21 20:00:35 2004 From: si at bananas.hopto.org (Si Jones) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 21:00:35 +0100 Subject: dual boot XP / FC2 - Sound problem In-Reply-To: <20040521193624.26E83755B3@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040521193624.26E83755B3@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085169635.7859.15.camel@apple.bananas.hopto.org> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 07:13:14PM +0100, Si Jones wrote: >> Overall am impressed with FC2, and I think I will stay on it, the thing >> I need to resolve is the sound, my onboard nvidia nforce2 sound dont >> seem to have any sound....? >It should have selected the i810 audio drivers. What is in lsmod and what happens if you run a mixer app ? Actually the nvidia does work, when i made the programs send the audio to it directly, the one problem is with the soundcard detection facility, it does not send the audio to the correct device, it will always send audio to soundcard 1 even when your in config of soundcard 2, i will try and look at this over the weekend to see if there is any problems in the code... i think it is not checking which tab you have open.... Also I thought changing the primary soundcard would make kde etc use soundcard 2 as primary but it dont work, it seems to default to soundcard 1 which is my SB Live.... If anyone knows of a patch for it let me know please!!! From marshall at novafoundry.com Fri May 21 20:10:06 2004 From: marshall at novafoundry.com (Marshall Lewis) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:10:06 -0400 Subject: rpmbuild php 4.3.4 for Mysql 4.0 FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <409F4EFC.6080804@filmakademie.de> References: <409F4EFC.6080804@filmakademie.de> Message-ID: <1085170206.4171.4.camel@grendel> I just tried doing the same thing, and get the exact same problem.. Just wanted to let you know that you're not alone : ) -- Marshall On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 05:44, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to test and install the MySQL 4.0 rpms from the > mysql.org-webpage on my Fedora Core 2 Test 3 System. > > This conflicts with the installed Fedora C2T3 php version, so I tried to > do a rebuild: > > rpmbuild --rebuild php-4.3.4-11.src.rpm > > after some seconds I get some warnings and than an error: > > /BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c -o ext/curl/curl.o > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c: In function > `curl_free_post': > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:563: warning: passing > arg 1 of > `curl_formfree' from incompatible pointer type > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c: In function > `alloc_curl_handle': > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:603: error: invalid > application of `sizeof' to an incomplete type > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c: In function > `zif_curl_setopt': > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:838: error: duplicate > case value > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:695: error: previously > used here > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:883: warning: passing > arg 1 of > `curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:883: warning: passing > arg 2 of > `curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:891: warning: passing > arg 1 of > `curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type > /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:891: warning: passing > arg 2 of > `curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type > make: *** [ext/curl/curl.lo] Error 1 > Fehler: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.70129 (%build) > > > RPM build errors: > Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.70129 (%build) > > > > [root at dilbert root]# rpm -qa|grep curl > curl-7.11.1-1 > curl-devel-7.11.1-1 > > > > HELP :-))) and regards > > > G?tz Reinicke > -- > G?tz Reinicke > IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet > > Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 > Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 > goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de > > Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg > Mathildenstr. 20 > 71638 Ludwigsburg > www.filmakademie.de > From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Fri May 21 20:30:01 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 04:30:01 +0800 Subject: yum site for RH/Enterprise? In-Reply-To: <200405211137.19470.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200405211137.19470.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1085171401.4437.8.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 23:37, Neal Becker wrote: > Is there a yum repos site for addtions to RH/Enterprise? A friend wants to > grab k3b. Dag Wieers builds RHEL addons. -- Chris Kloiber From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Fri May 21 20:42:25 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 22:42:25 +0200 Subject: yum site for RH/Enterprise? In-Reply-To: <200405211137.19470.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200405211137.19470.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20040521224225.6285afe2.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Fri, 21 May 2004 11:37:14 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Is there a yum repos site for addtions to RH/Enterprise? A friend wants to > grab k3b. I'd would rebuild the RH9 src.rpm from fedora.us, in particular because it doesn't require mp3 (unless you build "--with mp3"). From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 21 20:47:10 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:47:10 -0400 Subject: More dependancy failures In-Reply-To: <1085168169.4992.2.camel@T7.linux> References: <1085168169.4992.2.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1085172430.12240.347.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 15:36, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > yum update is giving me this load back... > > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 2 - Development tree > Server: Evolution Devel Snaps > Server: Mono > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Unreleased Updates Testing > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Resolving dependencies > .conflict between initscripts and pppd > Package rusers-server needs libproc.so.3.2.0, this is not available. > ... > Package gimp needs libcrseleng.so.2, this is not available. > > What gives and where can I get these files from? You are using rawhide for updates. Either wait until the conflicts are fixed there, or point your updates (yum.conf) at FC2 release sites. Phil From nkadel at merl.com Fri May 21 21:00:36 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:00:36 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora References: <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us><029b01c43f5f$0eaabcd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <20040521182821.GB23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <010301c43f76$aa449a50$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Cox" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:11:37PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > That's what "sort -i" is for. There is *no*, I repeat *no* way to get sort > > to operate as a case-sensitive operation short of resetting your locale > > before beginning. > > You can repeat all you like you are still confused about it. > > Simple demo. Input file consists of abacus and Abacus randomly ordered > > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sort demo > abacus > abacus > abacus > abacus > abacus > abacus > abacus > abacus > Abacus > Abacus > Abacus > Abacus > Abacus > Abacus > Abacus > Abacus > Abacus > > Output is sorted. Yes, in exactly the "case insensitive" fashion that "sort" has used for the last 20 years or so. With "LANG-en_US.UTF-8 ls", we get lists like this: a A ab aB Ab AB abc abC aBc aBC Abc AbC ABc ABC With "LANG=C; ls | sort -i", we get the same thing: a A ab aB Ab AB abc abC aBc aBC Abc AbC ABc ABC Looks identical, doesn't it? Also, notice that the items starting "AB" are no longer together. "AB" is entirely separate from "AB[cC]" With "LANG=C ls", we get. A AB ABC ABc Ab AbC Abc a aB aBC aBc ab abC abc Notice some wildly, wildly different behavior there, such as everything that starts with "AB" actually being grouped together? Now, guess how much old source code in the world was written in the days when ASCII meant ASCII, and sorting was predictable, not randomly dependent on a set of semi-randomly assigned locale's that cannot be predicted, and now require an additional programming step of checking if your system supports locales and setting them appropriately? The effective change was from the "C" standard to what you are describing as the "More Natural" sorting of en.US_UTF8, or whichever locale we happen to choose from moment to moment. This is conceptually reasonable, but the change has been breaking old code and unexpectedly multi-lingual code for the last few years. The shift to Unicode has been extremely painful for a lot of programmers, including me, and remains painful as I have to clean up tools or code from old source or other locations that make unwitting assumptions about this sort of behavior. From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 21 21:05:28 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:05:28 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 In-Reply-To: <20040521193812.GB3235@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1085167973.2861.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040521193812.GB3235@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085173528.12240.368.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 15:38, Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0400, Mike Lurk wrote: > > In the latest kernel (2.6.6) the intel i810 graphics do not run anything > > openGL, all it does is lock up the system. With the old kernel (2.6.5) > > it worked. One other point, where has the kernel-source file gone to. > > Have I overlooked something. http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/2/i386/core/RPMS/kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358.i386.rpm > > kernel-foo.src.rpm is the source package used to generate the kernels we > ship. If you are building 2.6.6 you might need to disable 4G+4G support > unless one of the very late FC2 fixes also made 2.6.6 in time. http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/SRPMS.kernel/kernel-2.6.6-1.374.src.rpm Arjan doesn't seem to supply kernel-source-.i386.rpm From paul at dishone.st Fri May 21 21:09:31 2004 From: paul at dishone.st (Paul Jakma) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 22:09:31 +0100 (IST) Subject: FC2 and mozilla and i586 In-Reply-To: <1085167799.12240.251.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1085167799.12240.251.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 May 2004, Phil Schaffner wrote: > This FC2-release question should be asked on fedora-list at redhat.com > since this is the fedora-test-list, and you'll get a wider audience > there anyway. Sigh, I'd forgotten FC2 had diverged so much from FC2t3, thanks for the helpful reply. Let me rephrase the question: If you use FC2 and/or FC2t3 on i586, and you run X and you have mozilla installed: Does mozilla startup for you? Answers either in the affirmative or otherwise appreciated. > To make sure replies get to the list and not just to the previous > sender? fedora-list does the same, as do many other lists. Google for "reply-to considered harmful". It's a bad idea, clueful lists do _not_ set it and it means i dont get replies in my Inbox. > Phil regards, -- Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie paul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A warning: do not ever send email to spam at dishone.st Fortune: Life is the living you do, Death is the living you don't do. -- Joseph Pintauro From me at mattkrause.net Fri May 21 21:10:18 2004 From: me at mattkrause.net (Matt Krause) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:10:18 -0700 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <40AE703A.5060607@mattkrause.net> Fedora Core 2 fresh install I seem to be having the problem of the display being too big no matter what resolution I use. I have to move the mouse to see the edges of the desktop. Everything was recognized fine in xorg.conf. I tried adding Videoram in the file, but that didn't fix it. It will change resoultions, but it won't fit the entire desktop on one screen, I have to move the mouse. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Matt Krause me at mattkrause.net http://www.mattkrause.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antitux at antitux.net Fri May 21 21:21:27 2004 From: antitux at antitux.net (John Dee) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:21:27 -0700 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <40AE703A.5060607@mattkrause.net> References: <40AE703A.5060607@mattkrause.net> Message-ID: <40AE72D7.3060106@antitux.net> Are you sure this isn't a monitor problem? have you tried to resize the screen? Matt Krause wrote: > Fedora Core 2 fresh install > > I seem to be having the problem of the display being too big no matter > what resolution I use. I have to move the mouse to see the edges of the > desktop. Everything was recognized fine in xorg.conf. I tried adding > Videoram in the file, but that didn't fix it. It will change > resoultions, but it won't fit the entire desktop on one screen, I have > to move the mouse. Any ideas? Thanks. > > -- > Matt Krause > me at mattkrause.net > http://www.mattkrause.net > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Fri May 21 21:22:08 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 22:22:08 +0100 Subject: system-config-display problem Message-ID: <1085174527.4992.7.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I've tried the system-config-display fix for the damned annoying login problem encountered under rawhide. Only problem is that it is still generating XF86Config files rather than xorg.conf files. Does this mean that I still have some piece of XF86 on my system somewhere that I need to rpm -e to oblivion or something else? TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From shrek-m at gmx.de Fri May 21 21:23:34 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 23:23:34 +0200 Subject: New test releases. In-Reply-To: References: <3154.12.29.16.103.1085164148.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <40AE7356.5070808@gmx.de> Mark Haney wrote: > On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:29:08 -0400 (EDT), William Hooper > wrote: > >> Updates will be posted where they always are: >> >> http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > > I know that. I was hoping, since there's been no update to the page > on the new schedule that I could get advance notice before the page > is updated. i hope that the schedule for fc3 is less aggressive, wait ~2 month, and you will have fc3t1 rawhide could be an indicator http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ -- shrek-m From alan at redhat.com Fri May 21 21:24:10 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:24:10 -0400 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <40AE72D7.3060106@antitux.net> References: <40AE703A.5060607@mattkrause.net> <40AE72D7.3060106@antitux.net> Message-ID: <20040521212410.GA23765@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:21:27PM -0700, John Dee wrote: > Are you sure this isn't a monitor problem? have you tried to resize the > screen? This sounds more like virtual desktop behaviour ? From mark.haney at doctordirectory.com Fri May 21 21:27:04 2004 From: mark.haney at doctordirectory.com (Mark Haney) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:27:04 -0400 Subject: New test releases. In-Reply-To: <40AE7356.5070808@gmx.de> References: <3154.12.29.16.103.1085164148.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <40AE7356.5070808@gmx.de> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 May 2004 23:23:34 +0200, shrek-m at gmx.de wrote: > > i hope that the schedule for fc3 is less aggressive, > wait ~2 month, and you will have fc3t1 > > rawhide could be an indicator > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/ > The timetable for FC2 was a bit quick, but I assume that was for moving to the 2.6 kernel more than anything else? -- Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt. Mark Haney Network, Database and Systems Administration DoctorDirectory.com Inc. From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 21 21:29:06 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:29:06 -0400 Subject: FC2 and mozilla and i586 In-Reply-To: References: <1085167799.12240.251.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1085174946.12240.376.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:09, Paul Jakma wrote: > On Fri, 21 May 2004, Phil Schaffner wrote: > > > This FC2-release question should be asked on fedora-list at redhat.com > > since this is the fedora-test-list, and you'll get a wider audience > > there anyway. > > Sigh, I'd forgotten FC2 had diverged so much from FC2t3, thanks for > the helpful reply. Let me rephrase the question: > > If you use FC2 and/or FC2t3 on i586, and you run X and you have > mozilla installed: > > Does mozilla startup for you? > > Answers either in the affirmative or otherwise appreciated. Sorry - can't help there. Still don't see you on fedora-list. :-) > > > To make sure replies get to the list and not just to the previous > > sender? fedora-list does the same, as do many other lists. > > Google for "reply-to considered harmful". It's a bad idea, clueful > lists do _not_ set it and it means i dont get replies in my Inbox. First entry on the Google does make that case, but I've (cluelessly) done a "Reply" on lists that don't mung the header (being used to the Red Hat way) and sent only to the original author. As you see from this message, can still (cluefully) reply to the author and the list. Point taken, but guess I'm still not convinced. Phil From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri May 21 21:32:01 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:32:01 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <010301c43f76$aa449a50$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us><029b01c43f5f$0eaabcd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <20040521182821.GB23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <010301c43f76$aa449a50$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <604aa79104052114327d6155f7@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 21 May 2004 17:00:36 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > This is conceptually reasonable, but the > change has been breaking old code and unexpectedly multi-lingual code for > the last few years. The shift to Unicode has been extremely painful for a > lot of programmers, including me, and remains painful as I have to clean > up tools or code from old source or other locations that make unwitting > assumptions about this sort of behavior. Yes I completely agree.... unwitting assumptions are the bane of pretty much any process development not just the evolution of software. No-one is suggesting that this isn't a painful change. But supporting native human languages in the environment is important. If specific pieces of code need to work in an ascii environment, that environment can be created via environment variable manipulation as needed. To argue that the default environment should be ascii though is an argument against the importance of providing strong localization support. Would a large virtual group hug help you handle the transition? -jef From shahms at shahms.com Fri May 21 21:44:28 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:44:28 -0700 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <010301c43f76$aa449a50$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <029b01c43f5f$0eaabcd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <20040521182821.GB23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <010301c43f76$aa449a50$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <1085175867.23547.224.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 14:00, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > Yes, in exactly the "case insensitive" fashion that "sort" has used for the > last 20 years or so. > > With "LANG-en_US.UTF-8 ls", we get lists like this: > > a > A > ab > aB > Ab > AB > abc > abC > aBc > aBC > Abc > AbC > ABc > ABC Yup, that's lexicographically correct. AKA a "dictionary" sort. > With "LANG=C; ls | sort -i", we get the same thing: *snip* Funny, since sort -i ignores non-printable characters, not case. Of course, I get the same result if I use -f. Doesn't actually prove anything though and you're still wrong about it being case insensitive. The output might look the same (in this example), but that doesn't imply the cause is. > > Looks identical, doesn't it? Also, notice that the items starting "AB" are > no longer together. "AB" is entirely separate from "AB[cC]" Good, then strcoll is working correctly. > With "LANG=C ls", we get. *snip* Good, then strcoll is working correctly. > Notice some wildly, wildly different behavior there, such as everything that > starts with "AB" actually being grouped together? Now, guess how much old > source code in the world was written in the days when ASCII meant ASCII, and > sorting was predictable, not randomly dependent on a set of semi-randomly > assigned locale's that cannot be predicted, and now require an additional > programming step of checking if your system supports locales and setting > them appropriately? You're exaggerating. They are different, as well they should be. ASCII is still ASCII and will always be ASCII. Sorting is still predictable, there is nothing "random" about it. And, as far as the average user is concerned lexicographic sorting is correct. Getting a locale-independent sort order doesn't require any of that, it simply requires using strcmp and not strcoll. (Read a man page every once in a while, or even a "C" standard book and you'd know this). > The effective change was from the "C" standard to what you are describing as > the "More Natural" sorting of en.US_UTF8, or whichever locale we happen to > choose from moment to moment. This is conceptually reasonable, but the > change has been breaking old code and unexpectedly multi-lingual code for > the last few years. The shift to Unicode has been extremely painful for a > lot of programmers, including me, and remains painful as I have to clean up > tools or code from old source or other locations that make unwitting > assumptions about this sort of behavior. Wrong again. Take a look at the copy of the "C" standard you have next to you. Look up "strcoll" or "setlocale" and suprise, suprise, they specify the behavior you're complaining about. It's more than conceptually reasonable and it has nothing to do with Unicode. You're complaining about two entirely separate issues. Try removing the ".UTF-8" from the locale and watch as nothing changes with the sort order. Applications which expect strcoll to behave like strcmp are, by definition, broken. Yes, the shift to Unicode has been painful but the sort order is the smallest impact by far (and only tangentially related to Unicode). Again, if you're expecting strcoll to behave like strcmp, your code is broken. If you're expecting LANG=C behavior from 'ls', then either specify that or simply sort the output after you read it in using strcmp! Breaking working apps to work around broken apps is a horrible idea, the working apps break while the broken apps never get fixed. Additionally, advocating changing the default locale from one that provides the expected behavior for 95% of users to one that doesn't because you prefer the sort order of 'ls' is arrogant and absurd. Change your own /etc/sysconfig/i18n and be done with it. Or fix the applications that *actually* break in UTF-8/non-C locales and make everyone's life better. Of course by "actually break" I don't mean sort correctly. -- Shahms King From michal at harddata.com Fri May 21 22:13:42 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:13:42 -0600 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1085175867.23547.224.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us>; from shahms@shahms.com on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:44:28PM -0700 References: <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> <029b01c43f5f$0eaabcd0$b28ccb89@zeppo> <20040521182821.GB23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <010301c43f76$aa449a50$b28ccb89@zeppo> <1085175867.23547.224.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <20040521161342.A23914@mail.harddata.com> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:44:28PM -0700, Shahms King wrote: > > You're exaggerating. They are different, as well they should be. ASCII > is still ASCII and will always be ASCII. Still there was always a flag which allowed to sort in a lexicographical order but now a flag which allows to sort in an "encoding order" is missing. Regardless of what you personally consider "correct" or "incorrect" some may have have uses for other ways of sorting and it would be nice to have that without a need of playing with LC_COLLATE. > And, as far as the average user is > concerned lexicographic sorting is correct. An "average user" is a mythical entity always invoked by those who broke something beyond recognition. As they are inventing that "average user" on the spot that is a small wonder that it always supports their position - whatever that happens to be. Michal From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Fri May 21 22:21:07 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 18:21:07 -0400 Subject: K3b ? In-Reply-To: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E3A@eemail1.microlink.lan> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E3A@eemail1.microlink.lan> Message-ID: <40AE80D3.60005@insight.rr.com> Fred New wrote: > On May 20, 2004, at 15:41, Lars wrote: > > >>it's in the fedora extras repo. >>http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/latest >> >>lars >> >>jim tate wrote: >> >> >>>Where do I download K3b for FC2? >>> > > > Is there some reason you aren't using the k3b on the FC2 CDs? There is > also some mention of k3b in the release notes. > > Fred > > I installed and tested K3B that is provided on the FC2 installation. I selected it on install. I burned a DVD on it. (My first) and it worked for creating a DVD image. The program loaded kind of slow, but it is a great program. I ran the program in gnome, if that makes any difference in the application speed. Jim -- You can create your own opportunities this week. Blackmail a senior executive. From feliciano.matias at free.fr Fri May 21 22:29:59 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 00:29:59 +0200 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 In-Reply-To: <1085173528.12240.368.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1085167973.2861.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040521193812.GB3235@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085173528.12240.368.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1085178573.16840.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le ven 21/05/2004 ? 23:05, Phil Schaffner a ?crit : > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 15:38, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0400, Mike Lurk wrote: > > > In the latest kernel (2.6.6) the intel i810 graphics do not run anything > > > openGL, all it does is lock up the system. With the old kernel (2.6.5) > > > it worked. One other point, where has the kernel-source file gone to. > > > Have I overlooked something. > > http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/2/i386/core/RPMS/kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358.i386.rpm > > > > > kernel-foo.src.rpm is the source package used to generate the kernels we > > ship. If you are building 2.6.6 you might need to disable 4G+4G support > > unless one of the very late FC2 fixes also made 2.6.6 in time. > > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/SRPMS.kernel/kernel-2.6.6-1.374.src.rpm > > Arjan doesn't seem to supply kernel-source-.i386.rpm > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/kernel-source-2.6.6-1.376.noarch.rpm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From concert at europe.com Thu May 20 23:25:25 2004 From: concert at europe.com (t l) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:25:25 -0800 Subject: FC2 install failure with selinux turned on....(Workaround) Message-ID: <20040520232525.31E3A4BDA3@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> OK. I fixed this: The problem appears that my home directory (created by 'firstboot') was not correctly labelled. 'fixfiles relabel' seems to have fixed this. I'm not sure if the fault lies with firstboot or with the fact that I allocated a partion for /home. If you run into this situation, reboot single-user and run 'fixfiles relabel'. tom [I'll check bugzilla for anything telltale.] ----------------------------------------------------------- * From: Tom London * To: fedora-test-list redhat com * Subject: FC2 install failure with selinux turned on.... * Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:10:20 -0700 I did a fresh SELinux (and 'everything') installation of FC2 (wiping clean a previously working copy of FC2T3). That is, I entered 'selinux' at the installation/boot prompt. I repartitioned and formatted the drive into /boot, /, /home (all ext3) and swap partitons. I selected 'install everything', and the install and 'firstboot' appears to have worked properly. I specified a new user (tbl), NTP etc. when propted. When the system 'came up' and I logged in as my 'normal' user, I got the following error popup: Your home directory is listed as: '/home/tbl' but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to log in with the / (root) directory as your home directory? It is unlikely anything will work unless you use a failsafe session. So, something didn't setup quite right. (I'll boot single user and see if the directory got created and labeled incorrectly) It then return to the login screen, where I tried to login as root. This time I got the following: The Applet "gnome-settings-daemon" has quit unexpectedly. You can inform .....". Clicking the 'inform developers' button has not no apparent effect. Anyone see this/have hints? tom -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From concert at europe.com Thu May 20 19:40:25 2004 From: concert at europe.com (t l) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:40:25 -0800 Subject: FC2 install failure with selinux turned on.... Message-ID: <20040520194025.8CDEC4BDAC@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> I did a fresh SELinux (and 'everything') installation of FC2 (wiping clean a previously working copy of FC2T3). That is, I entered 'selinux' at the installation/boot prompt. I repartitioned and formatted the drive into /boot, /, /home (all ext3) and swap partitons. I selected 'install everything', and the install and 'firstboot' appears to have worked properly. I specified a new user (tbl), NTP etc. when propted. When the system 'came up' and I logged in as my 'normal' user, I got the following error popup: Your home directory is listed as: '/home/tbl' but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to log in with the / (root) directory as your home directory? It is unlikely anything will work unless you use a failsafe session. So, something didn't setup quite right. (I'll boot single user and see if the directory got created and labeled incorrectly) It then return to the login screen, where I tried to login as root. This time I got the following: The Applet "gnome-settings-daemon" has quit unexpectedly. You can inform .....". Clicking the 'inform developers' button has not no apparent effect. Anyone see this/have hints? tom -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From mrsam at courier-mta.com Fri May 21 22:39:24 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 18:39:24 -0400 Subject: FC2 x86_64 SMP broken. References: <40AD65A5.8020400@redhat.com> <20040521095906.GC8028@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085143170.23890.12.camel@hostmaster.org> Message-ID: Thomas Zehetbauer writes: > On Fre, 2004-05-21 at 13:12, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> It's a Rhapsody HDAMA motherboard. Only the SMP kernel crashes. The UP >> kernel boots fine. > > I've seen 2.6.[0-4] SMP crashing because of my Digital 21041 NIC. I've got a pair of Broadcom NICs. Besides, it crashes when it mounts the root ext3 partition. >> The only thing plugged into the motherboard is an Adaptec 29320 controller. >> Can't really take that out and still be able to boot. > > You could boot from a floppy. If I could squeeze the kernel+a root filesystem on a floppy, I would've. Marshall Lewis writes: > How much ram? I'm having a problem at work on a box with 6 gigs, but if > I knock it down to 4 (or use the UP kernel) it boots fine. ? still > trying to determine the actual cause of that in my case. 2 Gigs here. The 2.4 SMP kernel boots up just fine and sees both CPUs and RAM. And as long as I don't do ?certain things? it runs fine. The problem is that I need to do those ?certain things?. At what point exactly does your SMP kernel crash on boot? Because my crash definitely occurs in memory allocation code, which may be related to your issue. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Fri May 21 22:43:08 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 18:43:08 -0400 Subject: Burning ISO to CD In-Reply-To: <40AE3D51.3000500@ntlworld.com> References: <40AE3D51.3000500@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <40AE85FC.7050904@insight.rr.com> Leon Stringer wrote: > Hi, > > This is slightly off topic but I'm having severe problems burning the > FC2 ISOs to CD with FC2t3. > > A conservative guess is that 1 in 5 CDs are working OK the rest are > landfill and this is obviously frustrating my move to FC2. > > I'm burning with Nautilus' "Write to CD" option (i.e. right clicking on > the ISO file) and I've checked the MD5sum of the ISO beforehand. > > I've tried 3 different drives (Samsung SM-332B, SM-352B and an MSI 52x > CD-R drive) and tried Maximum Available and 2x speed and both fail. (I'm > checking the md5sum of /dev/cdrom and this comes up with the wrong > number and an error message) > > The media are Sony 700MB CD-Rs. The platform is Intel 845GERG2 board > with a P4 CPU. > > So: am I doing anything wrong? Should Nautilus be able to write > reliably? Are my drives or media no good? Is this a known problem in > FC2t3? Will I ever be able to install FC2?! > > I'm very grateful for any pointers in troubleshooting this, > > Leon... > > I burned the ISOs on an FC1 system. It worked with the method that you described. I downloaded the images via bittorrent. The disc had minor errors with a false start bringing up the GUI installer initially. It then had an error reading information for one of the selected rpms. It did read the rpm after pressing return for a retry. I am wondering if you also downloaded via bittorrent or retrieved the images either by http or ftp? If you downloaded via bittorrent, I'm wondering if the problem is with the downloaded file and fragmentation? Someone mentioned that if you copy your downloaded images to a different location, it will lower the fragmentation level of the file. Maybe the iso image is too fragmented. If you copied one image to a different directory, then deleted the original file, then copied the other files to different locations, deleting the original downloaded image, if it would help with the final image on CD? As far as burning the ISOs on FC2, they work. I ftp transferred the iso images retrieved on my FC1 (bittorent retrieved) to my newly installed FC2 installation. I burned them the same way as you described. The short of it. Transfer the images to a different system or move the files to lower file fragmentation and try to burn again. Jim -- You can create your own opportunities this week. Blackmail a senior executive. From dmalcolm at redhat.com Fri May 21 22:46:49 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 18:46:49 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) Message-ID: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing purposes. Enjoy! Dave Malcolm From nkadel at merl.com Fri May 21 23:06:46 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:06:46 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora References: <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us><029b01c43f5f$0eaabcd0$b28ccb89@zeppo><20040521182821.GB23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com><010301c43f76$aa449a50$b28ccb89@zeppo> <604aa79104052114327d6155f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006701c43f88$4a329e70$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Spaleta" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora > On Fri, 21 May 2004 17:00:36 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > This is conceptually reasonable, but the > > change has been breaking old code and unexpectedly multi-lingual code for > > the last few years. The shift to Unicode has been extremely painful for a > > lot of programmers, including me, and remains painful as I have to clean > > up tools or code from old source or other locations that make unwitting > > assumptions about this sort of behavior. > > Yes I completely agree.... unwitting assumptions are the bane of pretty much > any process development not just the evolution of software. No-one is > suggesting that this isn't a painful change. But supporting native > human languages in the environment is important. If specific pieces of > code need to work in an ascii environment, that environment can be > created via environment variable manipulation as needed. To argue that > the default environment should be ascii though is an argument against > the importance of providing strong localization support. > > Would a large virtual group hug help you handle the transition? > > > -jef A cookie would be better. Wait, my web browser blocks cookies! Weep, wail, whimper! No cookie? Look, I know that many folks in the world want to go the Unicode way in order to support new capabilities, enough that it's pretty much set in stone. But a great deal of software *breaks* when you attempt to compile it with locale support, especially since commercial UNIX versions of the gettext toolset vary fairly wildly in subtleties of their implementation. It's a related set of continuing problems, and they bite lots of developers at odd times. From nkadel at merl.com Fri May 21 23:07:37 2004 From: nkadel at merl.com (Nico Kadel-Garcia) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:07:37 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora References: <1085069197.23547.134.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us><029b01c43f5f$0eaabcd0$b28ccb89@zeppo><20040521182821.GB23058@devserv.devel.redhat.com><010301c43f76$aa449a50$b28ccb89@zeppo> <1085175867.23547.224.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <006801c43f88$688efd00$b28ccb89@zeppo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shahms King" To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora > Wrong again. Take a look at the copy of the "C" standard you have next > to you. Look up "strcoll" or "setlocale" and suprise, suprise, they > specify the behavior you're complaining about. It's more than > conceptually reasonable and it has nothing to do with Unicode. You're > complaining about two entirely separate issues. Try removing the > ".UTF-8" from the locale and watch as nothing changes with the sort > order. Applications which expect strcoll to behave like strcmp are, by > definition, broken. Yes, the shift to Unicode has been painful but the > sort order is the smallest impact by far (and only tangentially related > to Unicode). Again, if you're expecting strcoll to behave like strcmp, > your code is broken. If you're expecting LANG=C behavior from 'ls', > then either specify that or simply sort the output after you read it in > using strcmp! Breaking working apps to work around broken apps is a > horrible idea, the working apps break while the broken apps never get > fixed. The implementation of Unicode as a replacement for the older standard of "C" broke many, many working apps. The sort order is an *example* of the fun and whackiness: it means that the output of an extremely old and extremely common command, "sort", is modified by an entirely new environment variable that didn't didn't even exist back when "sort" was originally written. The alteration of the behavior mandates a set of new regression tests across multiple locales, and frankly a lot of authors of various multi-lingual tools and especially of documentation are not working in locale-using environments. Try another example. do a "find" command on /usr/share/man, and then do a "man" of 20 or so randomly selected man pages under en_US.UTF-8. First, marvel at all the amazingly unprintable or unparseable crap that shows up. Then try to deal with piping that through pagers and the pager's abilities to do a "find this string" function, such as the "/" command for more or less, and see how the string you actually "found" is not on the page displayed. Now set LANG=C and try the same thing. Everything works now, doesn't it? Guess how old most of those now-fractured man pages are? It worked beautifully when the author wrote it. This means re-writing a lot of old documentation, which has thankfully been proceeding apace for a lot of developers, but it's awfully hard when you have some in-house tool written by someone who was nice enough to write the man page 10 years ago. Or to quote Mr. Cosby, "Have you looked at the mess in the bottom of that ark? Who's gonna clean up that mess in the bottom of the ark!" From fedora at andrewfarris.com Fri May 21 23:09:05 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:09:05 -0700 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > purposes. Enjoy! > > Dave Malcolm If you upgrade to these packages from an earlier 1.5.x version you may need to run evolution --force-shutdown before using the new version. Without doing that there is some confusion (in my case evolution-alarm-notify got stuck in a cpu loop..). Actually.. try to duplicate alarm-notify problems before --force-shutdown if you can, but just a heads up. ;) -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lordmorgul on irc.freenode.net From leon.stringer at ntlworld.com Fri May 21 23:22:19 2004 From: leon.stringer at ntlworld.com (Leon Stringer) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 00:22:19 +0100 Subject: Burning ISO to CD In-Reply-To: <40AE85FC.7050904@insight.rr.com> References: <40AE3D51.3000500@ntlworld.com> <40AE85FC.7050904@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <40AE8F2B.4040703@ntlworld.com> Thanks for your reply. I'll try moving the file. In case it comes up again: I downloaded the ISO using FTP from my local mirror. Jim Cornette wrote: > Leon Stringer wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is slightly off topic but I'm having severe problems burning the >> FC2 ISOs to CD with FC2t3. >> >> A conservative guess is that 1 in 5 CDs are working OK the rest are >> landfill and this is obviously frustrating my move to FC2. >> >> I'm burning with Nautilus' "Write to CD" option (i.e. right clicking >> on the ISO file) and I've checked the MD5sum of the ISO beforehand. >> >> I've tried 3 different drives (Samsung SM-332B, SM-352B and an MSI >> 52x CD-R drive) and tried Maximum Available and 2x speed and both >> fail. (I'm checking the md5sum of /dev/cdrom and this comes up with >> the wrong number and an error message) >> >> The media are Sony 700MB CD-Rs. The platform is Intel 845GERG2 board >> with a P4 CPU. >> >> So: am I doing anything wrong? Should Nautilus be able to write >> reliably? Are my drives or media no good? Is this a known problem in >> FC2t3? Will I ever be able to install FC2?! >> >> I'm very grateful for any pointers in troubleshooting this, >> >> Leon... >> >> > > I burned the ISOs on an FC1 system. It worked with the method that you > described. I downloaded the images via bittorrent. The disc had minor > errors with a false start bringing up the GUI installer initially. It > then had an error reading information for one of the selected rpms. It > did read the rpm after pressing return for a retry. > > I am wondering if you also downloaded via bittorrent or retrieved the > images either by http or ftp? If you downloaded via bittorrent, I'm > wondering if the problem is with the downloaded file and fragmentation? > > Someone mentioned that if you copy your downloaded images to a > different location, it will lower the fragmentation level of the file. > Maybe the iso image is too fragmented. If you copied one image to a > different directory, then deleted the original file, then copied the > other files to different locations, deleting the original downloaded > image, if it would help with the final image on CD? > > As far as burning the ISOs on FC2, they work. I ftp transferred the > iso images retrieved on my FC1 (bittorent retrieved) to my newly > installed FC2 installation. I burned them the same way as you described. > > The short of it. Transfer the images to a different system or move the > files to lower file fragmentation and try to burn again. > > Jim > From ernesto at ornl.gov Thu May 20 11:15:33 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 07:15:33 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085051732.17335.16.camel@matrix> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 00:01, John Morris wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 2004, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in > > Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) > > > > Why is the default US.UTF-8? > > Because RH is hellbent on making Unicode the standard encoding. Like > their previous attempts at getting out in front of an emerging standard it > tends to break a lot of things. But because it is breaking in such a high > profile distro it gets fixed. See GCC, GLIBC, ELF, pthreads, SELinux, > etc. Okay, I will hang in there. > > In the end it is going to be a good thing if you live outside the US or > are RedHat and want to sell products and services outside the US. But for > now expect to do a lot of "LANG=C " to workaround the > problems or edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n. Could "/etc/sysconfig/i18n" be handled at install time? > > -- > John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! > Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From mitr at volny.cz Fri May 21 23:34:32 2004 From: mitr at volny.cz (Miloslav Trmac) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 01:34:32 +0200 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1085164131.23547.164.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> <023701c43f5e$2c7ad660$b28ccb89@zeppo> <1085164131.23547.164.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> Message-ID: <20040521233431.GA20291@chrys.ms.mff.cuni.cz> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 11:28:51AM -0700, Shahms King wrote: > Given that ASCII is a > subset of UTF-8 (for the most part) the applications that are breaking > on UTF-8 are simply buggy. To be fair, the applications that break on UTF-8 (as opposed to locales in general, e.g. the collation "problem") usually break because they don't expect a multibyte characer encoding, which was very rare before (CJK encoding madness leaving aside), ASCII is not a multibyte encoding so the argument above is incorrect. Mirek From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sat May 22 00:36:56 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:36:56 -0500 Subject: K3b ? In-Reply-To: <40AE80D3.60005@insight.rr.com> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E3A@eemail1.microlink.lan> <40AE80D3.60005@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: <40AEA0A8.10704@sbcglobal.net> Jim Cornette wrote: > Fred New wrote: > >> On May 20, 2004, at 15:41, Lars wrote: >> >>> it's in the fedora extras repo. >>> http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/latest >>> >>> lars >>> >>> jim tate wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Where do I download K3b for FC2? >>>> >> >> >> Is there some reason you aren't using the k3b on the FC2 CDs? There is >> also some mention of k3b in the release notes. >> >> Fred >> >> > > > I installed and tested K3B that is provided on the FC2 installation. I > selected it on install. > > I burned a DVD on it. (My first) and it worked for creating a DVD > image. The program loaded kind of slow, but it is a great program. > > I ran the program in gnome, if that makes any difference in the > application speed. > > Jim I used the one off disk2 and it work fine, I did not know it was there. And what puzzeles me, why is it I installed everything but the server apps. why didn't it install ? Thanks Jim Tate From mike.lurk at sympatico.ca Sat May 22 01:33:08 2004 From: mike.lurk at sympatico.ca (Mike Lurk) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 21:33:08 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 Message-ID: <1085189588.3829.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 15:38, Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0400, Mike Lurk wrote: > > In the latest kernel (2.6.6) the intel i810 graphics do not run anything > > openGL, all it does is lock up the system. With the old kernel (2.6.5) > > it worked. One other point, where has the kernel-source file gone to. > > Have I overlooked something. http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/2/i386/core/RPMS/kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358.i386.rpm > > kernel-foo.src.rpm is the source package used to generate the kernels we > ship. If you are building 2.6.6 you might need to disable 4G+4G support > unless one of the very late FC2 fixes also made 2.6.6 in time. http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/SRPMS.kernel/kernel-2.6.6-1.374.src.rpm Arjan doesn't seem to supply kernel-source-.i386.rpm _____________________________________________________________________ I just checked Arjan's site and now he has the kernel 2.6.6-1.376 as well as the kernel-source 2.6.6-1.376 dated as of today. Thank You all From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sat May 22 03:02:33 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 23:02:33 -0400 Subject: Is it safe to remove IPv6 from latest test kernel Message-ID: <1085194953.9697.1026.camel@duergar> Hey, I was just wondering if it would screw anything up if I removed ipv6 from my kernel? Will things break horribly? I hope this is the right list to ask this on, apparently questions about development absolutely can't be asked on the devel list or warren will got hitler on your ass without reading the e-mail. Kudos to those who don't respond with rude insults like Hitler Togami. -sb From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Sat May 22 03:12:27 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 23:12:27 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085195547.6095.3.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > purposes. Enjoy! > > Dave Malcolm Well, just used 1.5.8 to mark your announcement with the nice new ! [important] icon. ;^) These unstable released have generally been working better for me than the "stable" ones did. Thanks, Phil From timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu Sat May 22 03:47:07 2004 From: timothy at jupiter.stcl.edu (Timothy Sandel) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:07 -0500 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1085197627.3753.1.camel@mercury> I made the same mistake. Here's a ps before I killed the tasks. root 3452 1 97 20:30 ? 00:12:41 /usr/libexec/evolution/1.5/evolu tion-alarm-notify --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_AlarmNotify _Factory:1.5 --oaf-ior-fd=45 root 3455 1 0 20:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/evolution-data-serv er-1.0 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_DataServer_CalFactory:1.0 --oaf -ior-fd=47 Timothy On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 16:09 -0700, Andrew Farris wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > > purposes. Enjoy! > > > > Dave Malcolm > > If you upgrade to these packages from an earlier 1.5.x version you may > need to run > evolution --force-shutdown > before using the new version. Without doing that there is some > confusion (in my case evolution-alarm-notify got stuck in a cpu loop..). > > Actually.. try to duplicate alarm-notify problems before > --force-shutdown if you can, but just a heads up. ;) > > -- > Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) > fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lordmorgul on irc.freenode.net > > > From ml at mutox.org Sat May 22 04:52:15 2004 From: ml at mutox.org (Dan) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:52:15 +1000 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085201534.16406.3.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> Is IPv6 working in this build? I built this for my FC2 box, and evolution complained it could not contact my imap server. The imap server has both A and AAAA records, and evolution 1.4 was handing IPv6 fine. A check of the spec file reveals --enable-ipv6, but it seems to do nothing. Should i file a bug over this. Cheers, Dan On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 08:46, David Malcolm wrote: > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > purposes. Enjoy! > > Dave Malcolm > From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sat May 22 05:41:00 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 13:41:00 +0800 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 In-Reply-To: <1085173528.12240.368.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1085167973.2861.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040521193812.GB3235@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085173528.12240.368.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1085204460.20062.12.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 05:05, Phil Schaffner wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 15:38, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0400, Mike Lurk wrote: > > > In the latest kernel (2.6.6) the intel i810 graphics do not run anything > > > openGL, all it does is lock up the system. With the old kernel (2.6.5) > > > it worked. One other point, where has the kernel-source file gone to. > > > Have I overlooked something. > > http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/2/i386/core/RPMS/kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358.i386.rpm > > > > > kernel-foo.src.rpm is the source package used to generate the kernels we > > ship. If you are building 2.6.6 you might need to disable 4G+4G support > > unless one of the very late FC2 fixes also made 2.6.6 in time. > > http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/SRPMS.kernel/kernel-2.6.6-1.374.src.rpm > > Arjan doesn't seem to supply kernel-source-.i386.rpm According to the changelog, the kernel-source and kernel-doc packages are now "noarch" packages. Thus I assume you need to rebuild it with: # rpmbuild --rebuild --target=i686,noarch kernel-2.6.6-1.427.src.rpm Or some such. -- Chris Kloiber From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sat May 22 06:39:01 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 23:39:01 -0700 Subject: Is it safe to remove IPv6 from latest test kernel In-Reply-To: <1085194953.9697.1026.camel@duergar> References: <1085194953.9697.1026.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <200405212339.01754.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 21 May 2004 20:02, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > I was just wondering if it would screw anything up if I removed ipv6 > from my kernel? Will things break horribly? > > I hope this is the right list to ask this on, apparently questions about > development absolutely can't be asked on the devel list or warren will > got hitler on your ass without reading the e-mail. > > Kudos to those who don't respond with rude insults like Hitler Togami. *cough* to answer your question, removing ipv6 shouldn't hurt things horribly. Be sure to disable any services that may use ipv6, such as ip6tables or anything like that. Of course this configuration may be largely untested so you may be wading into waters where nobody has an answer for you. Also, comments like the ones further down in your email are a quick way to ensure that you won't be posting on any Red Hat list in the future. Please try to keep personal remarks such as those to yourself. I don't care what you call people when talking to your cat (or whatever object may be in your talking range), but there is absolutely no reason to do something like that in a public mailing list. Try to keep it professional 'eh? - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFArvWF4v2HLvE71NURAlVcAJ9OWhuwozRYWUWkWpFBWweuOSaliQCcCAxQ tomnDmqOJXCQ7CHH1lovV+s= =2Fz5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pwatkins at decssi.com Sat May 22 07:46:18 2004 From: pwatkins at decssi.com (Paul Watkins) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 00:46:18 -0700 Subject: FC2 USB Devices Message-ID: <40AF054A.5090205@decssi.com> I have FC2 installed -- but the USB devices are not setup properly. Where do I locate settings for USB devices under FC2? Is it under /udev? Things worked fine under FC1 and some of the early tests of FC2 -- but after the upgrade to FC2 final -- no USB devices are detected -- at least the USB controller harware is detected but the devices don't appear to be mapped properly. Paul From vslim at insightbb.com Sat May 22 07:51:12 2004 From: vslim at insightbb.com (slim) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 02:51:12 -0500 Subject: Question about Questions In-Reply-To: <20040521171327.A21812@homebase.cluenet.de> References: <1085152158.7829.1.camel@shovelhead> <20040521171327.A21812@homebase.cluenet.de> Message-ID: <1085212272.8893.0.camel@shovelhead> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 10:13, Daniel Roesen wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:09:19AM -0500, slim wrote: > > Should FC2 questions be asked here, Or over at fedora-list > > fedora-list > > This list here is for test releases and package QA testing. > > > Regards, > Daniel > Thanks From mandreiana at rdslink.ro Sat May 22 12:08:17 2004 From: mandreiana at rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:08:17 +0300 Subject: development ISOs? In-Reply-To: <1085089663.4351.40.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1085089437.4351.38.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> <1085089663.4351.40.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085227697.5101.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:47, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > ftp://people.redhat.com/FedoraSync.sh thanks! Making 700mb iso-s can be easily done with this script or it's more complicated? -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Sat May 22 13:34:43 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:34:43 -0400 Subject: K3b ? In-Reply-To: <40AEA0A8.10704@sbcglobal.net> References: <345764DCB65C0C4FACC44529DE273C18615E3A@eemail1.microlink.lan> <40AE80D3.60005@insight.rr.com> <40AEA0A8.10704@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <40AF56F3.4050008@insight.rr.com> jim tate wrote: > Jim Cornette wrote: > >> Fred New wrote: >> >>> On May 20, 2004, at 15:41, Lars wrote: >>> >>>> it's in the fedora extras repo. >>>> http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/latest >>>> >>>> lars >>>> >>>> jim tate wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Where do I download K3b for FC2? >>>>> >>> >>> >>> Is there some reason you aren't using the k3b on the FC2 CDs? There is >>> also some mention of k3b in the release notes. >>> >>> Fred >>> >>> >> >> >> I installed and tested K3B that is provided on the FC2 installation. I >> selected it on install. >> >> I burned a DVD on it. (My first) and it worked for creating a DVD >> image. The program loaded kind of slow, but it is a great program. >> >> I ran the program in gnome, if that makes any difference in the >> application speed. >> >> Jim > > > I used the one off disk2 and it work fine, I did not know it was there. > And what puzzeles me, why is it I installed everything but the server apps. > why didn't it install ? > > Thanks > Jim Tate > > I did a server install on one machine and then selected additional packages from all the groups that I chose. (Basically everything). On another machine, I chose a workstation installation and modified the groups to include k3b, mozilla mail, mc, lynx and a host of other packages. I haven't done an everything install since RHL 6.x because of an "everything" installation seeming to include a lot of language packages. When updating, it caused a lot of extra downloading related to kde's foreign language rpms. I guess everything is not "everything". ... If this is different than a usual "everything" install selection, I guess it is a bug. Jim From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sat May 22 15:28:59 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 17:28:59 +0200 Subject: Kmail S/Mime Plugin? Message-ID: <200405221728.59367.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Hi, In Fedora Core 1 was some kind of cryptplug pakage to install ?gypten/sphinx for S/mime support in Kmail - what's about that for Fedora Core 2? I can't find something like that for Fedora Core 2. Roland From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sat May 22 16:37:13 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 18:37:13 +0200 Subject: Kmail S/Mime Plugin? In-Reply-To: <200405221728.59367.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200405221728.59367.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20040522183713.3a2aede7.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:28:59 +0200, Roland Wolters wrote: > Hi, > In Fedora Core 1 was some kind of cryptplug pakage to install ?gypten/sphinx > for S/mime support in Kmail - what's about that for Fedora Core 2? > I can't find something like that for Fedora Core 2. You're too quick. Extras packages at fedora.us for FC2 have not been rebuilt yet completely, cryptplug is one of them. From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sat May 22 16:46:26 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:46:26 -0400 Subject: Sorry... Message-ID: <1085244385.9697.1059.camel@duergar> Hey, Sorry I haven't been very polite on these lists lately, and I've been more than a little unfair to Warren Togami specifically. And I know its totally my fault. I'm man enough to admit it. But can someone point me to a place where it tells with specificity what should be asked on what list? Seems like even people who run the lists are sometimes unclear on where certain topics should end up. I realize that not everything is appropriate for these lists, but I'd like to have my questions answered and so I'd like to know for certain what list is for what... Are their charters or anything anywhere? Best Regards, Stan Bubrouski PS. Sorry again Warren, I know I'm a complete tool sometimes. From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sat May 22 16:49:12 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:49:12 -0400 Subject: Is it safe to remove IPv6 from latest test kernel In-Reply-To: <200405212339.01754.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <1085194953.9697.1026.camel@duergar> <200405212339.01754.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: <1085244551.9697.1065.camel@duergar> On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 02:39, Jesse Keating wrote: > *cough* to answer your question, removing ipv6 shouldn't hurt things > horribly. Be sure to disable any services that may use ipv6, such as > ip6tables or anything like that. Of course this configuration may be > largely untested so you may be wading into waters where nobody has an > answer for you. > According to Alan it could break gftp, so I'm not going to be removing IPv6 till I look at that... > Also, comments like the ones further down in your email are a quick way to > ensure that you won't be posting on any Red Hat list in the future. > Please try to keep personal remarks such as those to yourself. I don't > care what you call people when talking to your cat (or whatever object may > be in your talking range), but there is absolutely no reason to do > something like that in a public mailing list. Try to keep it professional > 'eh? > Yeah I know, I wasn't in the best condition when I posted that and it was highly inappropriate, I apologize. I sent a separate e-mail to this list and the devel list apologizing a moment ago for my remarks. Warren isn't evil, I was just frustrated I wasn't getting the answers I'd hoped for. Look for better behaviour in the future. Thanks, Stan > - -- > Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) > Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) > GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > > Was I helpful? Let others know: > http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFArvWF4v2HLvE71NURAlVcAJ9OWhuwozRYWUWkWpFBWweuOSaliQCcCAxQ > tomnDmqOJXCQ7CHH1lovV+s= > =2Fz5 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sat May 22 16:55:03 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:55:03 -0400 Subject: safe to remove IPV6 from kernel? In-Reply-To: <20040522142521.GA24751@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1085095592.9697.37.camel@duergar> <40AD695F.4070409@redhat.com> <1085108015.9697.46.camel@duergar> <40AD75D7.1070103@redhat.com> <1085194238.9697.1004.camel@duergar> <20040522142521.GA24751@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085244903.9697.1073.camel@duergar> On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 10:25, Alan Cox wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:50:38PM -0400, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > First of all I'm sick of this attitude Warren. I wasn't asking YOU to > > remove IPv6 from the kernel. My question was if I remove it, am I going > > to face problems... > > gftp might break. There was a bug with gftp and ipv6 aware sites that > Im not sure was fixed by gftp updates, by the fact with have ipv6 or > in both. > Thank you. That would bother me ;-) Can you give me any further details on this? I looked at the bugzilla post https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122268 It states gftp-2.0.14-5 is ok, but gftp-2.0.17-0-FC1 can't deal with sites with IPv6 name servers. Obviously going back to 2.0.14 is not very feasible due to a number of other bugs. I'm gonna grab some old packages and see if I can see where this broke and what broke it upstream. Regards, Stan > Alan > From seyman at wanadoo.fr Sat May 22 18:28:13 2004 From: seyman at wanadoo.fr (Emmanuel Seyman) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 20:28:13 +0200 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <006701c43f88$4a329e70$b28ccb89@zeppo> References: <604aa79104052114327d6155f7@mail.gmail.com> <006701c43f88$4a329e70$b28ccb89@zeppo> Message-ID: <20040522182813.GA19578@orient.maison.moi> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 07:06:46PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > Look, I know that many folks in the world want to go the Unicode way in > order to support new capabilities, enough that it's pretty much set in > stone. But a great deal of software *breaks* when you attempt to compile it Then you should fix the software instead of breaking locales settings. Why is this such a big deal? Emmanuel From tehmiller_lister at bellsouth.net Sat May 22 18:44:03 2004 From: tehmiller_lister at bellsouth.net (Justin Miller) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:44:03 -0400 Subject: Why is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" the default in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> References: <1085023953.17335.7.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <40AF9F73.50800@bellsouth.net> Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: >Hi, > >Many applications seem to have a problem with the default locale in >Fedora. (e.g. adobe acrobat reader) > >Why is the default US.UTF-8? > > > > >Thanks, > > From thunderbirds at pandora.be Sat May 22 18:49:19 2004 From: thunderbirds at pandora.be (Gregory Petit) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 20:49:19 +0200 Subject: FC2: rdiff-backup not working from stable fedora.us Message-ID: <200405222049.30499.thunderbirds@pandora.be> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, could someone get rdiff-backup working on FC2? I installed the following rpm's on my 64-bit system: librsync-0.9.6-0.fdr.5.2.i386.rpm rdiff-backup-0.12.6-0.fdr.1.2.i386.rpm The installation went fine, but when I try to run rdiff-backup, I get the following errors: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/rdiff-backup", line 20, in ? import rdiff_backup.Main File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/Main.py", line 25, in ? import Globals, Time, SetConnections, selection, robust, rpath, \ File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/SetConnections.py", line 30, in ? import Globals, FilenameMapping, connection, rpath File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/connection.py", line 529, in ? import Globals, Time, Rdiff, Hardlink, FilenameMapping, C, Security, \ File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/Rdiff.py", line 22, in ? import os, librsync File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/librsync.py", line 27, in ? import _librsync, types, array ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/rdiff_backup/_librsync.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Does someone knows a solution for this problem? If not, should this be a bug for fedora bugzilla or fedora.us bugzilla? Thanks and kind regards, Gregory -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAr6C0IXdlaijlOucRAkEgAJ9h9qxMdRYoaN+Rzzz2UyWoN0AdjwCdHpEX J4gEXSYmziQPAeKGFAeMGBI= =igVF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sat May 22 19:05:32 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:05:32 -0400 Subject: fedora extras for x86_64? Message-ID: Is there a plan to provide fedora extra packages for x86_64, similar to those at download.fedora.us? If not, can we start something? From thunderbirds at pandora.be Sat May 22 19:07:19 2004 From: thunderbirds at pandora.be (Gregory Petit) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 21:07:19 +0200 Subject: FC2: rdiff-backup not working from stable fedora.us In-Reply-To: <200405222049.30499.thunderbirds@pandora.be> References: <200405222049.30499.thunderbirds@pandora.be> Message-ID: <200405222107.21492.thunderbirds@pandora.be> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Op zaterdag 22 mei 2004 20:49, schreef Gregory Petit: > Hi, > > could someone get rdiff-backup working on FC2? > I installed the following rpm's on my 64-bit system: > > librsync-0.9.6-0.fdr.5.2.i386.rpm > rdiff-backup-0.12.6-0.fdr.1.2.i386.rpm > I'm sorry, I was writing this mail too fast, it's solved now :-) I've found the 2 correct packages on: http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/fedorax86_64/fedora.us/2/x86_64/RPMS.stable/ rdiff-backup-0.12.6-0.fdr.1.1.90.x86_64.rpm librsync-0.9.6-0.fdr.5.2.x86_64.rpm After installing those 2 packages, everything works fine. Kind regards, Gregory -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAr6TnIXdlaijlOucRAuWuAJ4mcVjcd7r4K2RMk0Ej9L22AxJLSQCgga0h GSjVWMXnZW18m5ro13E0uv0= =tu7d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sat May 22 21:35:18 2004 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (jim tate) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 16:35:18 -0500 Subject: development ISOs? In-Reply-To: <1085227697.5101.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1085089437.4351.38.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> <1085089663.4351.40.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> <1085227697.5101.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <40AFC796.3030206@sbcglobal.net> Marius Andreiana wrote: >On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:47, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > >>>ftp://people.redhat.com/FedoraSync.sh >>> >>> >thanks! Making 700mb iso-s can be easily done with this script or it's >more complicated? > > > That site does not even exist. JT From lsomike at futzin.com Sat May 22 21:39:38 2004 From: lsomike at futzin.com (Mike Klinke) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 16:39:38 -0500 Subject: development ISOs? In-Reply-To: <40AFC796.3030206@sbcglobal.net> References: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1085227697.5101.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <40AFC796.3030206@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200405221639.39639.lsomike@futzin.com> On Saturday 22 May 2004 16:35, jim tate wrote: > Marius Andreiana wrote: > >On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:47, Chris Kloiber wrote: > >>>ftp://people.redhat.com/FedoraSync.sh > > > >thanks! Making 700mb iso-s can be easily done with this script or > > it's more complicated? > > That site does not even exist. > > JT Perhaps he meant the file in: ftp://people.redhat.com/ckloiber Regards, Mike Klinke From 64bit_fedora at comcast.net Sat May 22 22:04:01 2004 From: 64bit_fedora at comcast.net (Justin M. Forbes) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 17:04:01 -0500 Subject: fedora extras for x86_64? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040522220400.GA29314@comcast.net> On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 03:05:32PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Is there a plan to provide fedora extra packages for x86_64, similar to > those at download.fedora.us? If not, can we start something? > I am in the process of the rebuild right now. Packages are pushed daily as they are built but I have not completed, so there are missing packages, and I have not synched up the SRPMS, etc. For more information see the x86_64 FAQ: http://www.linuxtx.org/x86_64faq.html Thanks, Justin From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Sat May 22 23:40:26 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 19:40:26 -0400 Subject: fedora extras for x86_64? References: <20040522220400.GA29314@comcast.net> Message-ID: Justin M. Forbes wrote: > On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 03:05:32PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: >> Is there a plan to provide fedora extra packages for x86_64, similar to >> those at download.fedora.us? If not, can we start something? >> > I am in the process of the rebuild right now. Packages are pushed daily as > they are built but I have not completed, so there are missing packages, > and > I have not synched up the SRPMS, etc. For more information see the x86_64 > FAQ: http://www.linuxtx.org/x86_64faq.html > > Thanks, > Justin > > Thank you! This is great news. Let me know if I can help. I have a fast machine and pretty good connection. From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Sat May 22 23:47:12 2004 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg Lehmann) Date: 23 May 2004 09:47:12 +1000 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <200405210838.15950.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405092223.08 309.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <200405210838.15950.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1085179931.2184.2.camel@delicious-ph.cat.csiro.au> I agree, but when I asked about yast being included on the Red Hat world tour, I did not get a positive response. I think they thought I was having a go at them. On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 22:38, Neal Becker wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have been playing with suse9.1. Yast is very nice, something like this is > absolutely needed for Fedora. > > I really missed yum though. I did build/install apt, but it's just not the > same. > > AFAICT, Suse has a much more closed development than Fedora. It was not easy > to find 3rd party contributions. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFArfg2MDqogpR5tkMRApC5AJ9LzvPggAxnlW4d3qGlzERAOmuM8ACdFzRp > zDotoY1kfKu7smwSrdVPk+4= > =iq+v > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From alan at redhat.com Sun May 23 00:03:02 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 20:03:02 -0400 Subject: YAST and YUM Front-end In-Reply-To: <1085179931.2184.2.camel@delicious-ph.cat.csiro.au> References: <1084142455.3927.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200405092223.08309.ByteEnable@austin.rr.com> <200405210838.15950.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <1085179931.2184.2.camel@delicious-ph.cat.csiro.au> Message-ID: <20040523000302.GA21027@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 09:47:12AM +1000, Greg Lehmann wrote: > I agree, but when I asked about yast being included on the Red Hat world > tour, I did not get a positive response. I think they thought I was > having a go at them. The big concern I have about yast is mostly as a result of reading the source. There are several potential sets of config tools around. Webmin looks nice but isnt the worlds most lovable code, the gnome sytem tools project has some nice bits but isnt really progressing. Some of the Fedora tools are nice - the X one works well, the network one worked well (its a bit horked in FC2 but hopefully thats just 'needs an errata' stuff). Others are not so wonderful. Personally I've always favoured web based tools, with if neccessary a gnome and/or kde front end set that is basically embedded mozilla widgets (or khtmlw). That gives you serial, web, graphical and command line configuration in one [and indeed in a previous job I used "lynx" on the serial port and had reviewers rave about the wonderful serial configuration ui 8)] Alan From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun May 23 00:39:58 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 20:39:58 -0400 Subject: Sorry... In-Reply-To: References: <1085244385.9697.1059.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1085272798.1393.5.camel@duergar> On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 18:01, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2004, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > > >Hey, > > > >Sorry I haven't been very polite on these lists lately, and I've been > >more than a little unfair to Warren Togami specifically. And I know its > >totally my fault. I'm man enough to admit it. > > Thanks for saying this.. may it be used as an example to the rest of us > when we are tools too. I probably need it at least once every 3 months. > > I am not sure that there is a proper charter for what the mailing lists > say or do. A general posting to each of the lists from Red Hat or an > appointed stuckee of a FAQ and rules of use would probably be a good > thing.. even if it just starts with: Totally. As it stands its more than just difficult to figure what should be posted where. You could probably post the same question twice to the list and illicit entirely different responses entailing things like "This is the solution..." where other times you will get "Don't be a jerk and post questions like this to the this list" it doesn't evoke a spirit of community. When people don't where to ask a question, then there is a problem that deserves clarification. > > Anyway, here is my first attempt at chronicalling the madness, erm, > project. > Madness. That i understand. -sb > -- > Stephen John Smoogen smoogen at lanl.gov > Los Alamos National Lab CCN-5 Sched 5/40 PH: 4-0645 > Ta-03 SM-1498 MailStop B255 DP 10S Los Alamos, NM 87545 > -- You should consider any operational computer to be a security problem -- > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Sun May 23 00:48:06 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 01:48:06 +0100 Subject: Sorry... In-Reply-To: <1085272798.1393.5.camel@duergar> References: <1085244385.9697.1059.camel@duergar> <1085272798.1393.5.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1085273286.3547.8.camel@T7.linux> Hi. > As it stands its more than just difficult to figure what > should be posted where. Not really. If it's the proper version with the stable tested stuff (ie using the settings for yum given out by the distro), then it's on fedora-list. If it's anything in testing-unstable or rawhide, it's here. The big one though is ensuring that you don't confuse the two lists and refer on fedora-list to evolution 1.5.8 (or something like that) > > Anyway, here is my first attempt at chronicalling the madness, erm, > > project. > > > > Madness. That i understand. Nah. Madness (in the UK) was a very dodgy Ska band of the early 1980s. Other than that, it's the norm. We have two shades of the colour blue in our houses of parliment (neither capable of telling the truth for even 25% of the time) - oh, and the orange people as well as an unelected upper chamber of cross dressing retired majors, lords, dutchess and other windbags of no-fixed-distinction! Doncha just love politics when you've been on the beer all night! ;-) TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From zleite at mminternet.com Sun May 23 01:50:21 2004 From: zleite at mminternet.com (Z) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 18:50:21 -0700 Subject: SATA recommendation - via or promise? In-Reply-To: <200405211150.20448.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200405211150.20448.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1085277021.5088.1.camel@z.canteiros.org> Silicon Image :-) From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 23 01:49:55 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:49:55 +0800 Subject: development ISOs? In-Reply-To: <1085227697.5101.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <1085054552.4398.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> <1085089437.4351.38.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> <1085089663.4351.40.camel@roadrash.rdu.redhat.com> <1085227697.5101.5.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1085276995.1835.27.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 20:08, Marius Andreiana wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:47, Chris Kloiber wrote: > > > ftp://people.redhat.com/FedoraSync.sh > thanks! Making 700mb iso-s can be easily done with this script or it's > more complicated? Not yet. That's on my TODO list. Right now it makes only a DVD iso. -- Chris Kloiber From stan at ccs.neu.edu Sun May 23 02:32:51 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 22:32:51 -0400 Subject: Sorry... In-Reply-To: <1085273286.3547.8.camel@T7.linux> References: <1085244385.9697.1059.camel@duergar> <1085272798.1393.5.camel@duergar> <1085273286.3547.8.camel@T7.linux> Message-ID: <1085279571.1393.121.camel@duergar> On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 20:48, Paul wrote: > Hi. > > > As it stands its more than just difficult to figure what > > should be posted where. > > Not really. > > If it's the proper version with the stable tested stuff (ie using the > settings for yum given out by the distro), then it's on fedora-list. If > it's anything in testing-unstable or rawhide, it's here. > If it were that simple then it wouldn't ever be an issue. > The big one though is ensuring that you don't confuse the two lists and > refer on fedora-list to evolution 1.5.8 (or something like that) > There are more than two lists. And try to understand, things are apparently not as simple as to be categorized clearly into simply two lists... -sb > > > Anyway, here is my first attempt at chronicalling the madness, erm, > > > project. > > > > > > > Madness. That i understand. > > Nah. Madness (in the UK) was a very dodgy Ska band of the early 1980s. > Other than that, it's the norm. We have two shades of the colour blue in > our houses of parliment (neither capable of telling the truth for even > 25% of the time) - oh, and the orange people as well as an unelected > upper chamber of cross dressing retired majors, lords, dutchess and > other windbags of no-fixed-distinction! > > Doncha just love politics when you've been on the beer all night! > > ;-) > > TTFN > > Paul From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun May 23 03:39:39 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:39:39 -0400 Subject: What modifies the file "redhat-release" ? Message-ID: <1085283579.3426.6.camel@matrix> Hi, My desktop system reports Fedora 2 after updating from rawhide prior to May 18. Cool. However, my laptop may have not been so lucky. If I were to point my laptop to rawhide now, I would have beyond Fedora 2, right? Looks like rawhide is back to full throttle. How can I get my laptop on Fedora 2 without using the ISO distro? I think the laptop is really close if not already there but redhat-release still reports 1.92. So, what modifies redhat-release? Thanks, -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From balay at fastmail.fm Sun May 23 03:51:11 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 22:51:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: What modifies the file "redhat-release" ? In-Reply-To: <1085283579.3426.6.camel@matrix> References: <1085283579.3426.6.camel@matrix> Message-ID: On Sat, 22 May 2004, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Hi, > > My desktop system reports Fedora 2 after updating from rawhide prior to > May 18. Cool. > > However, my laptop may have not been so lucky. If I were to point my > laptop to rawhide now, I would have beyond Fedora 2, right? > Looks like rawhide is back to full throttle. Perhaps. You will get updated packages - don't know if there is an updated fedora-release pacakge which changes the name back to 'rawhide' > How can I get my laptop on Fedora 2 without using the ISO distro? I > think the laptop is really close if not already there but redhat-release > still reports 1.92. point yum to FC2 (release) repository and do 'yum update' (or upgrade) > So, what modifies redhat-release? When you (or yum) installs updated 'fedora-release' package. You could check with: rpm -qf /etc/redhat-release Satish From ckloiber at ckloiber.com Sun May 23 03:51:12 2004 From: ckloiber at ckloiber.com (Chris Kloiber) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 11:51:12 +0800 Subject: What modifies the file "redhat-release" ? In-Reply-To: <1085283579.3426.6.camel@matrix> References: <1085283579.3426.6.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1085284272.4343.4.camel@galileo.ckloiber.com> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 11:39, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Hi, > > My desktop system reports Fedora 2 after updating from rawhide prior to > May 18. Cool. > > However, my laptop may have not been so lucky. If I were to point my > laptop to rawhide now, I would have beyond Fedora 2, right? > Looks like rawhide is back to full throttle. > > How can I get my laptop on Fedora 2 without using the ISO distro? I > think the laptop is really close if not already there but redhat-release > still reports 1.92. > > So, what modifies redhat-release? # up2date fedora-release -or- # yum update fedora-release -- Chris Kloiber From jkeating at j2solutions.net Sun May 23 04:07:36 2004 From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 21:07:36 -0700 Subject: Is it safe to remove IPv6 from latest test kernel In-Reply-To: <1085244551.9697.1065.camel@duergar> References: <1085194953.9697.1026.camel@duergar> <200405212339.01754.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1085244551.9697.1065.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <200405222107.36880.jkeating@j2solutions.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 May 2004 09:49, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > According to Alan it could break gftp, so I'm not going to be > removing IPv6 till I look at that... yeah saw that. Didn't think that was a big deal, I haven't used a graphical ftp application in years. lftp just kicks too much arse for that (: See http://geek.j2solutions.net/stuff/gtotd-lftp for some reasons as to why I love lftp. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAsCOI4v2HLvE71NURAlVzAKCvANomjKJ6vdnfiVCQkV4lcloaaQCfXISE o6FBsY557KXD5AG+lX5X1Js= =TZbU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From balay at fastmail.fm Sun May 23 04:22:10 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:22:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: lftp [Was: Is it safe to remove IPv6 from latest test kernel] In-Reply-To: <200405222107.36880.jkeating@j2solutions.net> References: <1085194953.9697.1026.camel@duergar> <200405212339.01754.jkeating@j2solutions.net> <1085244551.9697.1065.camel@duergar> <200405222107.36880.jkeating@j2solutions.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 22 May 2004, Jesse Keating wrote: > > See http://geek.j2solutions.net/stuff/gtotd-lftp for some reasons as to > why I love lftp. Thanks for the link - and writing this up. I used to get frustated when I couldn't do 'ls kern*'. Now I know I should use 'ls |grep kernel' Satish From jmorris at beau.org Sun May 23 05:02:01 2004 From: jmorris at beau.org (John Morris) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 00:02:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: fedora extras for x86_64? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 22 May 2004, Neal Becker wrote: > Is there a plan to provide fedora extra packages for x86_64, similar to > those at download.fedora.us? If not, can we start something? Amen to that! I have yet to find a third party repo with x86_64 packages for Fedora. Been building so many packages the last few days I'm starting to feel like a Gentoo user or something. :) I'm game for helping build stuff. What do I need to do? I'm not much use for anything more than trivial fixes when one won't build, but I have built a few packages in my day and don't mind batching a few out if the problem is fedora.us lacking enough AMD64 kit. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$ Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Sun May 23 05:18:31 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 01:18:31 -0400 Subject: Write Cache Failed Flushing. Ummmm Message-ID: <40B03427.6060903@rogers.com> I have the following message from the second hard drive. It worked fine with rh9 and fc2t2. But I'm getting getting cache write problems with fc2 with both 2.6.5 and 2.6.6 kernels. Anything change??? May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: Write Cache FAILED Flushing! May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: Write Cache FAILED Flushing! May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: Write Cache FAILED Flushing! May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: Write Cache FAILED Flushing! May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: hdb: Write Cache FAILED Flushing! May 16 18:06:22 www kernel: EXT3 FS on hda3, internal journal The drive is working fine.... From mab at darlug.org Sun May 23 10:46:15 2004 From: mab at darlug.org (Mark Bradbury) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:16:15 +0930 Subject: gstreamer mp3 plugin In-Reply-To: <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1085309175.14044.4.camel@pluto.cdu.edu.au> Has anyone managed to rebuild the steamer-plugins for mp3 support I've tried but with no luck. I have the mad and mad-devel rpms installed and while it doing the ./configure it says that mad will be built any help much appreciated From alan at redhat.com Sun May 23 11:02:18 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 07:02:18 -0400 Subject: Write Cache Failed Flushing. Ummmm In-Reply-To: <40B03427.6060903@rogers.com> References: <40B03427.6060903@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040523110218.GD25746@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 01:18:31AM -0400, Dwaine Garden wrote: > I have the following message from the second hard drive. It worked fine > with rh9 and fc2t2. But I'm getting getting cache write problems with > fc2 with both 2.6.5 and 2.6.6 kernels. Anything change??? If its a Maxtor then certain maxtors trigger this and its basically harmless. Should be fixed upstream now From vibol at khmer.cc Sun May 23 11:59:01 2004 From: vibol at khmer.cc (Vibol Hou) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 04:59:01 -0700 Subject: custom kernel rpm / repatching methods Message-ID: <40B09205.7070206@khmer.cc> I've been following the latest round of kernel updates by arjanv and i've been looking into creating a custom kernel with swsusp2 patched in. i'm curious to know what methods the current redhat kernel maintainer(s) use to keep the rpm patched; is this process done manually? for instance, i've noticed a number of redhat-applied patches that occur after the bk patchsets. are the redhat-applied patches recreated manually to account for changes made by the bk patchset each time? -Vibol From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun May 23 12:27:37 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:27:37 +0200 Subject: Kmail S/Mime Plugin? In-Reply-To: <20040522183713.3a2aede7.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <200405221728.59367.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <20040522183713.3a2aede7.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <200405231427.37404.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:28:59 +0200, Roland Wolters wrote: > > Hi, > > In Fedora Core 1 was some kind of cryptplug pakage to install > > ?gypten/sphinx for S/mime support in Kmail - what's about that for Fedora > > Core 2? I can't find something like that for Fedora Core 2. > > You're too quick. Extras packages at fedora.us for FC2 have not been > rebuilt yet completely, cryptplug is one of them. Is there any possibility to get an annoucement when these packages are released? Roland From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Sun May 23 13:46:56 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:46:56 -0400 Subject: Write Cache Failed Flushing. Ummmm In-Reply-To: <20040523110218.GD25746@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40B03427.6060903@rogers.com> <20040523110218.GD25746@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40B0AB50.6080807@rogers.com> Alan Cox wrote: >On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 01:18:31AM -0400, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > >>I have the following message from the second hard drive. It worked fine >>with rh9 and fc2t2. But I'm getting getting cache write problems with >>fc2 with both 2.6.5 and 2.6.6 kernels. Anything change??? >> >> > >If its a Maxtor then certain maxtors trigger this and its basically >harmless. Should be fixed upstream now > > > > It is a maxtor drive. What in the maxtor drive is causing the problem that other drives do not have? Different cache timings? Thanks Alan.... From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun May 23 13:48:50 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:48:50 -0400 Subject: What modifies the file "redhat-release" ? In-Reply-To: References: <1085283579.3426.6.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1085320130.3325.1.camel@matrix> On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 23:51, Satish Balay wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2004, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > My desktop system reports Fedora 2 after updating from rawhide prior to > > May 18. Cool. > > > > However, my laptop may have not been so lucky. If I were to point my > > laptop to rawhide now, I would have beyond Fedora 2, right? > > Looks like rawhide is back to full throttle. > > Perhaps. You will get updated packages - don't know if there is an > updated fedora-release pacakge which changes the name back to > 'rawhide' > > > How can I get my laptop on Fedora 2 without using the ISO distro? I > > think the laptop is really close if not already there but redhat-release > > still reports 1.92. > > point yum to FC2 (release) repository and do 'yum update' (or upgrade) Looks like my yum.conf is totally not correct. I have also tried yum.conf.rpmnew ========================================================================== [root at matrix root]# yum update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base retrygrab() failed for: http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found ============================================================================ How do I fix the above? > > > So, what modifies redhat-release? > > When you (or yum) installs updated 'fedora-release' package. You could > check with: > > rpm -qf /etc/redhat-release > > Satish -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun May 23 14:12:53 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:12:53 -0400 Subject: What modifies the file "redhat-release" ? In-Reply-To: <1085320130.3325.1.camel@matrix> References: <1085283579.3426.6.camel@matrix> <1085320130.3325.1.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1085321573.3325.9.camel@matrix> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 09:48, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 23:51, Satish Balay wrote: > > On Sat, 22 May 2004, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > My desktop system reports Fedora 2 after updating from rawhide prior to > > > May 18. Cool. > > > > > > However, my laptop may have not been so lucky. If I were to point my > > > laptop to rawhide now, I would have beyond Fedora 2, right? > > > Looks like rawhide is back to full throttle. > > > > Perhaps. You will get updated packages - don't know if there is an > > updated fedora-release pacakge which changes the name back to > > 'rawhide' > > > > > How can I get my laptop on Fedora 2 without using the ISO distro? I > > > think the laptop is really close if not already there but redhat-release > > > still reports 1.92. > > > > point yum to FC2 (release) repository and do 'yum update' (or upgrade) > Looks like my yum.conf is totally not correct. I have also tried > yum.conf.rpmnew > ========================================================================== > [root at matrix root]# yum update > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 2 - i386 - Base > retrygrab() failed for: > http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info > Executing failover method > failover: out of servers to try > Error getting file > http://fedora.redhat.com/releases/fedora-core-2/headers/header.info > [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > ============================================================================ > How do I fix the above? Okay, I used yum.conf.rpmnew and hardcoded the "$releasever" string to "2" After this, I ran: yum update This downloaded and installed the following two packages: fedora-release-2-4.i386.rpm and comps.rpm Now, I am set. Thanks for the help. > > > > > > > So, what modifies redhat-release? > > > > When you (or yum) installs updated 'fedora-release' package. You could > > check with: > > > > rpm -qf /etc/redhat-release > > > > Satish > -- > Ernest L. Williams Jr. -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From akabi at speakeasy.net Sun May 23 15:03:02 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 11:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kmail S/Mime Plugin? In-Reply-To: <200405231427.37404.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200405221728.59367.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <20040522183713.3a2aede7.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <200405231427.37404.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: On May 23, 2004 at 14:27, Roland Wolters in a soothing rage wrote: >Once upon a time Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:28:59 +0200, Roland Wolters wrote: >> > Hi, >> > In Fedora Core 1 was some kind of cryptplug pakage to install >> > ?gypten/sphinx for S/mime support in Kmail - what's about that for Fedora >> > Core 2? I can't find something like that for Fedora Core 2. >> >> You're too quick. Extras packages at fedora.us for FC2 have not been >> rebuilt yet completely, cryptplug is one of them. > >Is there any possibility to get an annoucement when these packages are >released? This is the wrong list for FC2 questions. Try fedora-list instead. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 If food be the music of love, eat up, eat up. 11:02:28 up 5 days, 15:53, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From nbc at aikisoft.com Sun May 23 15:31:46 2004 From: nbc at aikisoft.com (Neil B. Cohen) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 11:31:46 -0400 Subject: Scanner problem Message-ID: <1085326306.20577.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> I recently purchased an HP 2175xi printer/scanner/copier. Hooked it up to my Fedora 2 test3 system and it worked fine. Got it to print and scan without any problems. I just wiped the machine and installed the FC2 release. The printer works, but Xsane tells me there are no scanners. The machine is attached to the USB port, and scanimage -L (run as root) tells me that there is (probably) a scanner on the USB port - but it won't actually scan anything. Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the scanner working would be appreciated. The printer still seems to be working... Much obliged, nbc NAME: Neil B. Cohen (Aiki Software) PHONE: 703-444-4610 DOMAIN: nbc at aikisoft.com ************************************************************* * Murphy's Philosophy: Smile - tomorrow will be worse... * * * * O'Tooles Commentary: Murphy was an optimist! * ************************************************************* From reader at newsguy.com Sun May 23 15:46:46 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:46:46 -0500 Subject: [fc2t1] Can't boot 2.6.6X kernels Message-ID: I've never gotten sound to work in several attempts so thought maybe updating to latest kernel would help. After rpm -ivh and boot that kernel it stalls at the line that says something like: Freeing memory... blah 152kb or something similar. There it hangs indefinitely. I see no other output that looks ominous to that point. Any ideas here what might be going on? From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun May 23 16:10:00 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 18:10:00 +0200 Subject: Scanner problem In-Reply-To: <1085326306.20577.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> References: <1085326306.20577.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> Message-ID: <200405231810.00690.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Neil B. Cohen wrote: > I recently purchased an HP 2175xi printer/scanner/copier. Hooked it up > to my Fedora 2 test3 system and it worked fine. Got it to print and scan > without any problems. > > I just wiped the machine and installed the FC2 release. The printer > works, but Xsane tells me there are no scanners. The machine is attached > to the USB port, and scanimage -L (run as root) tells me that there is > (probably) a scanner on the USB port - but it won't actually scan > anything. > > Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the scanner working would be > appreciated. The printer still seems to be working... Look here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121511 As a workaround: try to plug out the power connector of the scanner, and then plug it in again (all while FC2 runs). After that, start xsane as normal. Roland From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun May 23 16:11:07 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 18:11:07 +0200 Subject: Kmail S/Mime Plugin? In-Reply-To: References: <200405221728.59367.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200405231427.37404.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200405231811.07321.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time ne... wrote: > On May 23, 2004 at 14:27, Roland Wolters in a soothing rage wrote: > >Once upon a time Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:28:59 +0200, Roland Wolters wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > In Fedora Core 1 was some kind of cryptplug pakage to install > >> > ?gypten/sphinx for S/mime support in Kmail - what's about that for > >> > Fedora Core 2? I can't find something like that for Fedora Core 2. > >> > >> You're too quick. Extras packages at fedora.us for FC2 have not been > >> rebuilt yet completely, cryptplug is one of them. > > > >Is there any possibility to get an annoucement when these packages are > >released? > > This is the wrong list for FC2 questions. Try fedora-list instead. ok, Roland From maestronn at wowway.com Sun May 23 16:13:20 2004 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:13:20 -0400 Subject: Scanner problem In-Reply-To: <1085326306.20577.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> References: <1085326306.20577.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> Message-ID: <40B0CDA0.9080106@wowway.com> Neil B. Cohen wrote: >I recently purchased an HP 2175xi printer/scanner/copier. Hooked it up >to my Fedora 2 test3 system and it worked fine. Got it to print and scan >without any problems. > >I just wiped the machine and installed the FC2 release. The printer >works, but Xsane tells me there are no scanners. The machine is attached >to the USB port, and scanimage -L (run as root) tells me that there is >(probably) a scanner on the USB port - but it won't actually scan >anything. > >Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the scanner working would be >appreciated. The printer still seems to be working... > >Much obliged, > >nbc > > > > > It's a permission issue, read the sane-usb man page for the fix. It work fine if you turn the printer on while you are logged in (the hotplug script included with sane takes care of the permissions) but if the printer was on before you booted then permissions are not set correctly. From akabi at speakeasy.net Sun May 23 16:17:14 2004 From: akabi at speakeasy.net (ne...) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Scanner problem In-Reply-To: <1085326306.20577.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> References: <1085326306.20577.2.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> Message-ID: On May 23, 2004 at 11:31, Neil B. Cohen in a soothing rage wrote: >I recently purchased an HP 2175xi printer/scanner/copier. Hooked it up >to my Fedora 2 test3 system and it worked fine. Got it to print and scan >without any problems. > >I just wiped the machine and installed the FC2 release. And now you are asking on the wrong list. Please use fedora-list for FC2 questions. N.Emile... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 Whether weary or unweary, O man, do not rest, Do not cease your single-handed struggle. Go on, do not rest. -- An old Gujarati hymn 12:16:23 up 5 days, 17:07, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From fedora at linsolutions.com Sun May 23 16:18:29 2004 From: fedora at linsolutions.com (Ted Kaczmarek) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:18:29 -0400 Subject: [fc2t1] Can't boot 2.6.6X kernels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085329108.16781.9.camel@tarkus> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 10:46 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > I've never gotten sound to work in several attempts so thought maybe > updating to latest kernel would help. > > After rpm -ivh and boot that kernel it stalls at the line that says > something like: > > Freeing memory... blah 152kb or something similar. > > There it hangs indefinitely. I see no other output that looks > ominous to that point. Any ideas here what might be going on? > > Sounds eerily familiar, check bugzilla on mkintrd. Ted From reillyjf at comcast.net Sun May 23 16:44:52 2004 From: reillyjf at comcast.net (John Reilly) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:44:52 -0600 Subject: FC2: DVD Install Message-ID: <00ff01c440e5$45850350$5000a8c0@pumba> I've been unable to install neither FC1 Text 3 nor FC2 via DVD. The media boots, and runs through the initial install screens. Then I get the message, "Installation Method What type of media contains the packages to be installed? - Local CDROM - Hard Drive - NFS image - FTP - HTTP." None of these selections work. I can then install via CDROM's on the same drive. I can read the DVD via Fedora, and it appears to have exactly the same file structure as the CDROM. Any thoughts? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at jbsys.com Sun May 23 16:44:26 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (James C. Bevier) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:44:26 -0700 Subject: X86_64 FC2 problems on ASUS K8V SE Deluxe system Message-ID: <01bf01c440e5$361809d0$0a01a8c0@jbsys.com> I have an ASUS K8V SE Deluxe Athlon 64 system that I installed FC2 X86_64 on. I have another partition that has FC1 32 bit that I have been runing on. I have a Promise RAID controller (FastTrack 20378) where I have two 160 GB ide drives connected (RAID 2+0). I do not know how to see these drives. On FC1 2.4 kernel I used a ft3xx driver from Promise and the devices were on /dev/sda & /dev/sdb. It looks like the sata_promise is loaded, but where are the drives defined? I do not see them under /proc/scsi. Is this device support on FC2? The drives are ide (ATA-133), not SATA. Here is my lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8385 [K8T800 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 01) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800 South] 00:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80) 00:08.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20378 (SATA150 TX) (rev 02) 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter (rev 13) 00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP (rev 05) 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80) 00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) 00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [K8T800 South] 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) Thanks, Jim From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun May 23 18:29:41 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:29:41 +0200 Subject: gstreamer mp3 plugin In-Reply-To: <1085309175.14044.4.camel@pluto.cdu.edu.au> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> <1085309175.14044.4.camel@pluto.cdu.edu.au> Message-ID: <20040523202941.3e1c74b6.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:16:15 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > Has anyone managed to rebuild the steamer-plugins for mp3 support > I've tried but with no luck. I have the mad and mad-devel rpms installed > and while it doing the ./configure it says that mad will be built http://rpm.livna.org From fedora at wir-sind-cool.org Sun May 23 18:34:26 2004 From: fedora at wir-sind-cool.org (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:34:26 +0200 Subject: Kmail S/Mime Plugin? In-Reply-To: <200405231427.37404.wolters.liste@gmx.net> References: <200405221728.59367.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <20040522183713.3a2aede7.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <200405231427.37404.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20040523203426.5e0193c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> On Sun, 23 May 2004 14:27:37 +0200, Roland Wolters wrote: > Once upon a time Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:28:59 +0200, Roland Wolters wrote: > > > Hi, > > > In Fedora Core 1 was some kind of cryptplug pakage to install > > > ?gypten/sphinx for S/mime support in Kmail - what's about that for Fedora > > > Core 2? I can't find something like that for Fedora Core 2. > > > > You're too quick. Extras packages at fedora.us for FC2 have not been > > rebuilt yet completely, cryptplug is one of them. > > Is there any possibility to get an annoucement when these packages are > released? It's been rebuilt. Only new packages or updates are announced. Announcing rebuilds for a new distribution would mean that in case of a successful mass-rebuild, several hundred rebuilt packages are announced at once. It's better if users, who still miss a package after some time, file a bug report. From nicholasruddick at dopeflish.com Sun May 23 18:40:25 2004 From: nicholasruddick at dopeflish.com (Nicholas Ruddick) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:40:25 +0100 Subject: gstreamer mp3 plugin In-Reply-To: <20040523202941.3e1c74b6.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> <1085309175.14044.4.camel@pluto.cdu.edu.au> <20040523202941.3e1c74b6.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <1085337625.4748.7.camel@dopeflish.dopeflish.net> No i've had no luck either with installing the rpm, rhythmbox still says it does not have a plugin to play mp3 files. Nicholas Ruddick On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:29, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:16:15 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > > Has anyone managed to rebuild the steamer-plugins for mp3 support > > I've tried but with no luck. I have the mad and mad-devel rpms installed > > and while it doing the ./configure it says that mad will be built > > http://rpm.livna.org > From nicholasruddick at dopeflish.com Sun May 23 18:48:29 2004 From: nicholasruddick at dopeflish.com (Nicholas Ruddick) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:48:29 +0100 Subject: gstreamer mp3 plugin In-Reply-To: <1085337625.4748.7.camel@dopeflish.dopeflish.net> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> <1085309175.14044.4.camel@pluto.cdu.edu.au> <20040523202941.3e1c74b6.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1085337625.4748.7.camel@dopeflish.dopeflish.net> Message-ID: <1085338109.5888.1.camel@dopeflish.dopeflish.net> Sorry I made a mistake had the wrong gstreamer-plugin-mp3 rpm installed. For fedora 2 you need gstreamer-plugins-mp3-0.8.1-0.lvn.1.2 from rpm.livna.org . Works beautifully now, nice work! On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:40, Nicholas Ruddick wrote: > No i've had no luck either with installing the rpm, rhythmbox still says > it does not have a plugin to play mp3 files. > > Nicholas Ruddick > > On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:29, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:16:15 +0930, Mark Bradbury wrote: > > > > > Has anyone managed to rebuild the steamer-plugins for mp3 support > > > I've tried but with no luck. I have the mad and mad-devel rpms installed > > > and while it doing the ./configure it says that mad will be built > > > > http://rpm.livna.org > > > From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun May 23 20:41:09 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 16:41:09 -0400 Subject: SElinux verbosity level during boot-up Message-ID: <1085344869.3325.17.camel@matrix> Hi SElinux is very chatty during boot. As a matter of fact it gets in the way of other useful boot messages. How does one completely turn off SElinux? SElinux is disabled by default, right? What packages comprise SELinux and how does one remove them? I will go away and read the SElinux FAQ but I don't need SElinux on my home computer. I installed it by mistake in a hurry to synch up with the Fedora Core distro via yum. Thanks, -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From concert at europe.com Sun May 23 23:08:49 2004 From: concert at europe.com (t l) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 15:08:49 -0800 Subject: SElinux verbosity level during boot-up Message-ID: <20040523230850.9FE73164002@ws1-15.us4.outblaze.com> Edit /etc/sysconfig/selinux and change 'SELINUX=enforcing' to 'SELINUX=disabled' If that doesn't work for you, add 'selinux=0' to the boot options. From: "Ernest L. Williams Jr." ---------------------------------------------------------- Hi SElinux is very chatty during boot. As a matter of fact it gets in the way of other useful boot messages. How does one completely turn off SElinux? SElinux is disabled by default, right? What packages comprise SELinux and how does one remove them? I will go away and read the SElinux FAQ but I don't need SElinux on my home computer. I installed it by mistake in a hurry to synch up with the Fedora Core distro via yum. Thanks, -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From michael at epm2.com Sun May 23 23:10:50 2004 From: michael at epm2.com (Michael Hatzel) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:10:50 -0400 Subject: SElinux verbosity level during boot-up In-Reply-To: <20040523230850.9FE73164002@ws1-15.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Or my personal favorite, rebuild your kernel with all of the Alternate Security Model's turned off. Gets rid of that pesky SELinux right away. Mike Hatzel -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of t l Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 6:09 PM To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: SElinux verbosity level during boot-up Edit /etc/sysconfig/selinux and change 'SELINUX=enforcing' to 'SELINUX=disabled' If that doesn't work for you, add 'selinux=0' to the boot options. From: "Ernest L. Williams Jr." ---------------------------------------------------------- Hi SElinux is very chatty during boot. As a matter of fact it gets in the way of other useful boot messages. How does one completely turn off SElinux? SElinux is disabled by default, right? What packages comprise SELinux and how does one remove them? I will go away and read the SElinux FAQ but I don't need SElinux on my home computer. I installed it by mistake in a hurry to synch up with the Fedora Core distro via yum. Thanks, -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From wolters.liste at gmx.net Sun May 23 23:02:54 2004 From: wolters.liste at gmx.net (Roland Wolters) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:02:54 +0200 Subject: Kmail S/Mime Plugin? In-Reply-To: <20040523203426.5e0193c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> References: <200405221728.59367.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <200405231427.37404.wolters.liste@gmx.net> <20040523203426.5e0193c9.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> Message-ID: <200405240102.54931.wolters.liste@gmx.net> Once upon a time Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 23 May 2004 14:27:37 +0200, Roland Wolters wrote: > > Once upon a time Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:28:59 +0200, Roland Wolters wrote: > > > > In Fedora Core 1 was some kind of cryptplug pakage to install > > > > ?gypten/sphinx for S/mime support in Kmail - what's about that for > > > > Fedora Core 2? I can't find something like that for Fedora Core 2. > > > > > > You're too quick. Extras packages at fedora.us for FC2 have not been > > > rebuilt yet completely, cryptplug is one of them. > > > > Is there any possibility to get an annoucement when these packages are > > released? > > It's been rebuilt. > > Only new packages or updates are announced. Announcing rebuilds for a new > distribution would mean that in case of a successful mass-rebuild, several > hundred rebuilt packages are announced at once. It's better if users, who > still miss a package after some time, file a bug report. Ok, that's right. Now I know, I will be more patient in future. :-) Roland From davej at redhat.com Sun May 23 23:46:42 2004 From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:46:42 +0100 Subject: [fc2t1] Can't boot 2.6.6X kernels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 16:46, Harry Putnam wrote: > After rpm -ivh and boot that kernel it stalls at the line that says > something like: > > Freeing memory... blah 152kb or something similar. > > There it hangs indefinitely. I see no other output that looks > ominous to that point. Any ideas here what might be going on? If you're not running the glibc from FC2 final, then you should pass vdso=0 at boot time. Dave From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun May 23 23:56:57 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:56:57 -0400 Subject: SElinux verbosity level during boot-up In-Reply-To: <20040523230850.9FE73164002@ws1-15.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040523230850.9FE73164002@ws1-15.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1085356617.3325.41.camel@matrix> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:08, t l wrote: > Edit /etc/sysconfig/selinux and change 'SELINUX=enforcing' to > 'SELINUX=disabled' I don't have /etc/sysconfig/selinux > > If that doesn't work for you, add 'selinux=0' to the boot options. That worked like a charm!! Thanks. > > > From: "Ernest L. Williams Jr." > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Hi > > SElinux is very chatty during boot. As a matter of fact it gets in the > way of other useful boot messages. > > How does one completely turn off SElinux? SElinux is disabled by > default, right? > > What packages comprise SELinux and how does one remove them? > > I will go away and read the SElinux FAQ but I don't need SElinux on my > home computer. I installed it by mistake in a hurry to synch up with > the Fedora Core distro via yum. > > > Thanks, > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From ernesto at ornl.gov Sun May 23 23:58:31 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:58:31 -0400 Subject: SElinux verbosity level during boot-up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085356711.3325.44.camel@matrix> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:10, Michael Hatzel wrote: > Or my personal favorite, rebuild your kernel with all of the Alternate > Security Model's turned off. Gets rid of that pesky SELinux right away. I went with the selinux=0 option; since I change kernels like I change socks. I am always updating to latest 2.6 kernel and it would be inconvenient for me to rebuild every time. > > Mike Hatzel > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of t l > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 6:09 PM > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: SElinux verbosity level during boot-up > > > Edit /etc/sysconfig/selinux and change 'SELINUX=enforcing' to > 'SELINUX=disabled' > > If that doesn't work for you, add 'selinux=0' to the boot options. > > > From: "Ernest L. Williams Jr." > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Hi > > SElinux is very chatty during boot. As a matter of fact it gets in the > way of other useful boot messages. > > How does one completely turn off SElinux? SElinux is disabled by > default, right? > > What packages comprise SELinux and how does one remove them? > > I will go away and read the SElinux FAQ but I don't need SElinux on my > home computer. I installed it by mistake in a hurry to synch up with > the Fedora Core distro via yum. > > > Thanks, > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From fedora at linsolutions.com Mon May 24 00:40:25 2004 From: fedora at linsolutions.com (Ted Kaczmarek) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:40:25 -0400 Subject: fc2 kernel panic In-Reply-To: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> References: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: <1085359225.16781.34.camel@tarkus> A. Did a yum upgrade earlier today from fc1 to fc2 and it appears like the initrd.imgcreated is bad. Boot squaks like it can't read the drive label, booted into 2.4 kernel and dumpe2fs shows the right label. This box has 2 scsi drives, 3 ide and 2 cdrom's, smp athlon. My typical work around is to rebuild kernel and not use initrd.img. But this looks different to my untrained eyes. glibc-2.3.3-27 mkinitrd-3.5.22-1 root at inyoureyes boot]# ls -latr initrd-2.* -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 276009 Aug 20 2003 initrd-2.4.20-20.9.img This one post yum upgrade. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 195900 May 23 18:28initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img.old This one I created "mkinitrd 2.6.5-1.358" -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 194628 May 23 18:34 initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img And Arjans latest test kernel. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 195429 May 23 19:13 initrd-2.6.6-1.376smp.img mkrootdev: label / not found mount: error 2 mounting ext3 pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2 umount /initrd/proc failed: 2 Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz password --md5 $1$l0WNN0$rK69CoayY343p0GqclgL/1 title Fedora Core (2.6.6-1.376smp) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.6-1.376smp ro root=LABEL=/ acpi=on initrd /initrd-2.6.6-1.376smp.img title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.358smp) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358smp ro root=LABEL=/ acpi=on initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img root at inyoureyes root]# dumpe2fs /dev/sda7 | less filesystem volume name: / Last mounted on: Filesystem UUID: d461d983-1b76-4609-9c8e-b415253c4c61 Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: has_journal filetype needs_recovery sparse_super Default mount options: (none) Filesystem state: clean Errors behavior: Continue Filesystem OS type: Linux Inode count: 1602496 Block count: 3204959 Reserved block count: 160247 Free blocks: 1085648 Free inodes: 1197911 First block: 0 Block size: 4096 Fragment size: 4096 Blocks per group: 32768 Fragments per group: 32768 Inodes per group: 16352 Inode blocks per group: 511 Filesystem created: Fri May 23 15:35:38 2003 Last mount time: Sun May 23 20:34:38 2004 Last write time: Sun May 23 20:34:38 2004 Mount count: 8 Maximum mount count: -1 Last checked: Tue May 11 06:15:29 2004 Check interval: 0 () Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root) Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root) First inode: 11 Inode size: 128 Journal inode: 8 Default directory hash: tea Directory Hash Seed: 911c4afd-9a89-42ee-a92a-9b3da98c9b82 Journal backup: inode blocks Group 0: (Blocks 0-32767) Primary superblock at 0, Group descriptors at 1-1 Block bitmap at 2 (+2), Inode bitmap at 3 (+3) Inode table at 4-514 (+4) 15069 free blocks, 15295 free inodes, 343 directories Any thought's? Thanks, Ted From reader at newsguy.com Mon May 24 02:34:44 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 21:34:44 -0500 Subject: [fc2t1] Can't boot 2.6.6X kernels In-Reply-To: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> (Dave Jones's message of "Mon, 24 May 2004 00:46:42 +0100") References: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> Message-ID: Dave Jones writes: >> Freeing memory... blah 152kb or something similar. >> >> There it hangs indefinitely. I see no other output that looks >> ominous to that point. Any ideas here what might be going on? > > If you're not running the glibc from FC2 final, then you > should pass vdso=0 at boot time. yup, that got it booted... thanks From reader at newsguy.com Mon May 24 02:54:24 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 21:54:24 -0500 Subject: Back up to square one with sound config Message-ID: Setup: FC2 test1 Kernel: kernel-2.6.6-1.376 I've been trying to get sound working for several days on and off. Went back and read the relevant posts or at least what I could find. Tried several of the suggestions ... still not getting anywhere. At this point I have so much crap in /etc/modprobe.conf and in /etc/rc.d/rc.local I'd like to clean the slate and start from square one. Has anyone posted a step by step guide to getting this setup? It seems to be getting unduly complex. Running lsmod I see a pile of sound related stuff a yard long. Seems like a lot of junk to make a sound. dmesg shows this sound related output: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49486 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 41161 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49487 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 41161 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49487 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 41161 Current /etc/modprobe.conf: alias eth0 3c59x alias eth1 e100 include /etc/modprobe.conf.dist alias usb-controller ehci-hcd alias usb-controller1 ohci-hcd alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss # [HP 05/23/04 09:25 alsa part:] alias char-major-116 snd # post-install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : # pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S /dev/null 2>&1 || : alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : Current /etc/rc.d/rc.local touch /var/lock/subsys/local modprobe snd-seq-oss modprobe snd-pcm-oss modprobe snd_intel8x0 Aumix is zeroed out on every boot but even setting it wide open doesn't give me anything. `system-config-soundcard' fails but starts with a warning about invalid utf-8 junk in something to do with desktop: (system-config-soundcard.py:2767): Gdk-WARNING **: DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID contains invalid UTF-8 Going through the rest of the proceedure does nothing usefull. How can I clean this mess up and start one step at a time with some chance of debugging my problem? From roger at gwch.net Mon May 24 04:54:56 2004 From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 06:54:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Samba Client on FC 2 - error after mounting a share Message-ID: <23100.62.2.21.164.1085374496.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Hi, Installed FC2 - all works fine. I've done some workaround to access my fileserver (samba), so i mount usually 2 shares from my share. But: if i go into the 1st mounted share, doing ls, this blocks this share. the 2nd works fine. if i shutdown my machine, i has serious problems, unmounting the 1st mounted share. also here, the 2nd is no problem. With the 2nd mounted share i can work without any problem... [snip my log (dmesg)] smb_lookup: find //.Trash-roger failed, error=-5 Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 printing eip: 00000000 *pde = 00000000 Oops: 0000 [#1] CPU: 0 EIP: 0060:[<00000000>] Not tainted EFLAGS: 00210246 (2.6.5-1.358) EIP is at 0x0 eax: 0bd16880 ebx: 13da3990 ecx: 0214edcd edx: 12b66fa0 esi: 2f207366 edi: 031bde60 ebp: 0bd16880 esp: 12b66f14 ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Process nautilus (pid: 3640, threadinfo=12b66000 task=12cb4830) Stack: 2227e976 12b66f38 00000000 0fef3000 148a3954 12113e18 19246b80 0214edcd 12b66fa0 746f6f72 00248d7d 6f6f7220 00000000 00000000 0fef3000 00000002 00000000 00000000 00000001 00000004 00200246 22286020 12113e80 0bd16880 Call Trace: [<2227e976>] smb_readdir+0x346/0x3f1 [smbfs] [<0214edcd>] filldir64+0x0/0x12e [<0214eaba>] vfs_readdir+0x7a/0x9b [<0214edcd>] filldir64+0x0/0x12e [<0214ef60>] sys_getdents64+0x65/0xaa [<0214e26c>] generic_file_fcntl+0xd7/0x140 Code: Bad EIP value. [/snip] Thx, Roger From markf78 at yahoo.com Mon May 24 06:15:22 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: system-config-securitylevel Message-ID: <20040524061522.1625.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- is there any way to add additional services to the "trusted services" box in system-config-securitylevel (perhaps, by editing config files)? i realize i could simply add the port number to "other ports:" but i have several obscure ports open on my box and i like the protocol listed next to the port number as it is in the trusted services box. also, if this can be done, then when disabling the firewall i would avoid erasing the "other ports" i had typed in. if not, i'll prob file a RFE on bugzilla. any help would be greatly appreciated. mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains ? Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer From lunix at comcast.net Mon May 24 06:35:41 2004 From: lunix at comcast.net (Prasanth Kumar) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:35:41 -0700 Subject: system-config-securitylevel In-Reply-To: <20040524061522.1625.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040524061522.1625.qmail@web11411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1085380541.5021.1.camel@zeus.comcast.net> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 23:15 -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > is there any way to add additional services to the "trusted services" box > in system-config-securitylevel (perhaps, by editing config files)? i realize i > could simply add the port number to "other ports:" but i have several obscure > ports open on my box and i like the protocol listed next to the port number as > it is in the trusted services box. also, if this can be done, then when > disabling the firewall i would avoid erasing the "other ports" i had typed in. > if not, i'll prob file a RFE on bugzilla. any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > mark. :-) > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year > http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer > > Looking at the python source for the program, those trusted services items seem to be hard coded to the program. You could probably modify the code yourself even if you don't know python to add a few more services. -- Regards, Prasanth From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Mon May 24 07:00:16 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?UTF-8?B?R8O2dHogUmVpbmlja2U=?=) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:00:16 +0200 Subject: rpmbuild php 4.3.4 for Mysql 4.0 FC2T3 In-Reply-To: <1085170206.4171.4.camel@grendel> References: <409F4EFC.6080804@filmakademie.de> <1085170206.4171.4.camel@grendel> Message-ID: <40B19D80.1020905@filmakademie.de> Hi, today I downloaded Mysql 4.0.20 rpms from mysql.org and installed tham onto FC2 :-) I had to install the MySQL-shared-compat rpm to be compatibel with the FC php rpm. I'll see if this worked :-) regards. G?tz Marshall Lewis schrieb: > I just tried doing the same thing, and get the exact same problem.. > > Just wanted to let you know that you're not alone : ) > > -- > Marshall > > On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 05:44, G?tz Reinicke wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I'd like to test and install the MySQL 4.0 rpms from the >>mysql.org-webpage on my Fedora Core 2 Test 3 System. >> >>This conflicts with the installed Fedora C2T3 php version, so I tried to >>do a rebuild: >> >>rpmbuild --rebuild php-4.3.4-11.src.rpm >> >>after some seconds I get some warnings and than an error: >> >>/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c -o ext/curl/curl.o >>/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c: In function <....> >>`curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type >>/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/php-4.3.4/ext/curl/curl.c:891: warning: passing >>arg 2 of >>`curl_formadd' from incompatible pointer type >>make: *** [ext/curl/curl.lo] Error 1 >>Fehler: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.70129 (%build) >> >> >>RPM build errors: >> Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.70129 (%build) >> >> >> >>[root at dilbert root]# rpm -qa|grep curl >>curl-7.11.1-1 >>curl-devel-7.11.1-1 -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From pmatilai at welho.com Mon May 24 05:27:48 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 08:27:48 +0300 (EEST) Subject: SElinux verbosity level during boot-up In-Reply-To: <1085356617.3325.41.camel@matrix> References: <20040523230850.9FE73164002@ws1-15.us4.outblaze.com> <1085356617.3325.41.camel@matrix> Message-ID: On Sun, 23 May 2004, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 19:08, t l wrote: > > Edit /etc/sysconfig/selinux and change 'SELINUX=enforcing' to > > 'SELINUX=disabled' > I don't have /etc/sysconfig/selinux I had the same issue on my box: when upgrading from FC1 nothing ends up writing the selinux file and if you have the "policy" package installed (I installed it to get rid of rpm complaining about missing /etc/security/selinux/policy or somesuch file), after that selinux got enabled in non-enforcing mode. Creating the /etc/sysconfig/selinux file with the above contents made the selinux messages go away as well. - Panu - From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Mon May 24 09:14:11 2004 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:14:11 +0300 Subject: FC2 and keyboard layouts Message-ID: <200405241214.14305.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Any one noticed that you can't change the keyboard layout ?? It is not only me, but other friends has suffered the same too. I am using KDE. Regards Mohamed Eldesoky -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAsbzl2FHsOWMJBKMRAszrAKDQB8EYaYfhSOU1Md0jHvH5+/Y5VQCgxku3 zYQejGx/yb7YFjas5/abqbI= =E7ZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shrek-m at gmx.de Mon May 24 10:44:35 2004 From: shrek-m at gmx.de (shrek-m at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:44:35 +0200 Subject: FC2 and keyboard layouts In-Reply-To: <200405241214.14305.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> References: <200405241214.14305.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> Message-ID: <40B1D213.2000800@gmx.de> Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: >Any one noticed that you can't change the keyboard layout ?? >It is not only me, but other friends has suffered the same too. >I am using KDE > you are here: fedora core TEST - list For testers of Fedora Core development releases try FEDORA CORE LIST http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list For users of Fedora Core releases you can find the answer here http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/thread.html -- shrek-m From tmolina at cablespeed.com Mon May 24 10:52:14 2004 From: tmolina at cablespeed.com (Thomas Molina) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 06:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: fc2 kernel panic In-Reply-To: <1085359225.16781.34.camel@tarkus> References: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <1085359225.16781.34.camel@tarkus> Message-ID: > root at inyoureyes boot]# ls -latr initrd-2.* > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 276009 Aug 20 2003 initrd-2.4.20-20.9.img > This one post yum upgrade. > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 195900 May 23 18:28initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img.old > This one I created "mkinitrd 2.6.5-1.358" > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 194628 May 23 18:34 initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img > And Arjans latest test kernel. > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 195429 May 23 19:13 initrd-2.6.6-1.376smp.img > > > mkrootdev: label / not found > mount: error 2 mounting ext3 > pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2 > umount /initrd/proc failed: 2 > Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed > Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel > > default=0 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > password --md5 $1$l0WNN0$rK69CoayY343p0GqclgL/1 > title Fedora Core (2.6.6-1.376smp) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.6-1.376smp ro root=LABEL=/ acpi=on > initrd /initrd-2.6.6-1.376smp.img > title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.358smp) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358smp ro root=LABEL=/ acpi=on > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img > Any thought's? I typically see the above panic message when I have rebuilt something and end up with an initrd not containing modular ext3 and jbd. My solution to this is edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file to replace the "root=LABEL=/" part with a reference to a specific device (root=/dev/hda2 in my case). This can be done either from the rescue cd or from one of the other kernels, which are still bootable. From tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com Mon May 24 10:56:48 2004 From: tarjei.knapstad at predichem.com (Tarjei Knapstad) Date: 24 May 2004 12:56:48 +0200 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> Message-ID: <1085396208.1121.1.camel@tarjei> On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 01:09, Andrew Farris wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > If you upgrade to these packages from an earlier 1.5.x version you may > need to run > evolution --force-shutdown > before using the new version. Without doing that there is some > confusion (in my case evolution-alarm-notify got stuck in a cpu loop..). > Alternatively there's the killev script that will shut down Evolution completely. (unless it's been removed?) -- Tarjei From ernesto at ornl.gov Mon May 24 11:08:15 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 07:08:15 -0400 Subject: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders Message-ID: <1085396895.3325.82.camel@matrix> Hi, I have a DELL Precision M60. When I choose a resolution 1920x1200, I end up with unwanted 0.5in. borders on the side. How can this be resolved? On the other hand if I choose 1920x1440 then the display is indeed full but my task bar is now off the bottom of the display. Does any one have a magic "XF86Config" file? Thanks -- Ernest L. Williams Jr. From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Mon May 24 11:28:15 2004 From: chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov (Bob Chiodini) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 07:28:15 -0400 Subject: FC2: DVD Install In-Reply-To: <00ff01c440e5$45850350$5000a8c0@pumba> References: <00ff01c440e5$45850350$5000a8c0@pumba> Message-ID: <1085398095.19378.12.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 12:44, John Reilly wrote: > I've been unable to install neither FC1 Text 3 nor FC2 via DVD. The > media boots, and runs through the initial install screens. Then I get > the message, "Installation Method What type of media contains the > packages to be installed? - Local CDROM - Hard Drive - NFS image - FTP > - HTTP." None of these selections work. > > I can then install via CDROM's on the same drive. I can read the DVD > via Fedora, and it appears to have exactly the same file structure as > the CDROM. > > Any thoughts? > > ______________________________________________________________________ That almost sounds like you got the boot.img ISO not the DVD image. Bob... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fedora at linsolutions.com Mon May 24 14:55:25 2004 From: fedora at linsolutions.com (Ted Kaczmarek) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:55:25 -0400 Subject: fc2 kernel panic In-Reply-To: References: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <1085359225.16781.34.camel@tarkus> Message-ID: <1085410524.28091.5.camel@tarkus> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 06:52 -0400, Thomas Molina wrote: > > root at inyoureyes boot]# ls -latr initrd-2.* > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 276009 Aug 20 2003 initrd-2.4.20-20.9.img > > This one post yum upgrade. > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 195900 May 23 18:28initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img.old > > This one I created "mkinitrd 2.6.5-1.358" > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 194628 May 23 18:34 initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img > > And Arjans latest test kernel. > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 195429 May 23 19:13 initrd-2.6.6-1.376smp.img > > > > > > mkrootdev: label / not found > > mount: error 2 mounting ext3 > > pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2 > > umount /initrd/proc failed: 2 > > Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed > > Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel > > > > default=0 > > timeout=10 > > splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > > password --md5 $1$l0WNN0$rK69CoayY343p0GqclgL/1 > > title Fedora Core (2.6.6-1.376smp) > > root (hd0,0) > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.6-1.376smp ro root=LABEL=/ acpi=on > > initrd /initrd-2.6.6-1.376smp.img > > title Fedora Core (2.6.5-1.358smp) > > root (hd0,0) > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358smp ro root=LABEL=/ acpi=on > > initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img > > > > Any thought's? > > I typically see the above panic message when I have rebuilt something and > end up with an initrd not containing modular ext3 and jbd. My solution to > this is edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file to replace the "root=LABEL=/" > part with a reference to a specific device (root=/dev/hda2 in my case). > This can be done either from the rescue cd or from one of the other > kernels, which are still bootable. Tried that, changed "ro root=LABEL=/" to "ro root=/dev/sda7", but if the ext3 module doesn't load, the root partion won't be either. Ted From profeta at brturbo.com Mon May 24 15:15:07 2004 From: profeta at brturbo.com (Profeta) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:15:07 -0300 (BRT) Subject: Help with some problems Message-ID: <12513298.1085411707797.JavaMail.nobody@webmail3.brturbo.com> Hi everyone! First of it, there is another maillist about Fedora Core ? I downloaded and installed FC2 on my machine and I like it too much! I am a desktop user and I will continue using Fedora Core. Thanks for everything on this distro. I am having some problems(not big ones). Maybe there is some solutions. My playlist on xmms doesnt minimize(I realize that is a problem with kde 3.2.2, is that right ?). I use apollon(giFT client) to download musics. I solve the problem of listening the music while they are being downloaded installing a package called kde-multimedia-mp3. But I still having problems with viewing mpegs videos on apollon. No problem with mplayer video(I can see the movies before they are downloaded), but there is a way to installed a package or something else to solve this thing? I found a solution installing the hole kde from kde to redhat project, but I didnt like some uncompatibily problems. I installed the kde, solve my problem, but I got some bugs and errors that I didnt like, gdm didnt start well, and other anoying problems. Sorry if this is offtopic on the list! Thanks the attention! Pr0ph3t From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon May 24 15:01:43 2004 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:01:43 -0400 Subject: lock screen as root - FC2 In-Reply-To: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768A0@hermes2.aegean.gr> References: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768A0@hermes2.aegean.gr> Message-ID: <20040524150143.GA9220@jadzia.bu.edu> On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 05:31:21PM +0300, Kontogiannis Theophanis wrote: > Anyone knows why I can not lock screen as root in FC2? The screensaver program which does the locking doesn't believe that it's safe to run as root. The solution to your problem is: don't log in as root. It's dangerous because it makes it easier for viruses and other malware to spread, and because it makes it very easy to shoot yourself in the foot. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Mon May 24 15:47:40 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Help with some problems In-Reply-To: <12513298.1085411707797.JavaMail.nobody@webmail3.brturbo.com> References: <12513298.1085411707797.JavaMail.nobody@webmail3.brturbo.com> Message-ID: <2073.12.29.16.103.1085413660.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Profeta said: > Hi everyone! > > First of it, there is another maillist about Fedora Core ? http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ Among others: # fedora-list - For users of Fedora Core releases. If you want help with a problem installing or using Fedora Core, this is the list for you. # fedora-test-list - For testers of Fedora Core test releases. If you would like to discuss experiences using Fedora Core TEST releases, this is the list for you. Your questions belong on "fedora-list". -- William Hooper From jorton at redhat.com Mon May 24 15:59:56 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:59:56 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: php-4.3.6-5 Message-ID: <20040524155956.GA5778@redhat.com> Please report problems as comments to this bug report: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121011 If there are no problems by Thursday 27th May this will become a final update. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-136 2004-05-24 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : php Version : 4.3.6 Release : 5 Summary : The PHP HTML-embedded scripting language. (PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) Description : PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. PHP attempts to make it easy for developers to write dynamically generated webpages. PHP also offers built-in database integration for several commercial and non-commercial database management systems, so writing a database-enabled webpage with PHP is fairly simple. The most common use of PHP coding is probably as a replacement for CGI scripts. The mod_php module enables the Apache Web server to understand and process the embedded PHP language in Web pages. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest stable release of PHP 4 with a large number of bug fixes since the previous 4.3.4 release. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed May 19 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.6-5 - don't obsolete php-imap (#123580) - unconditionally build -imap subpackage * Thu May 13 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.6-4 - remove trigger * Thu Apr 22 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.6-3 - fix umask reset "feature" (#121454) - don't use DL_GLOBAL when dlopen'ing extension modules * Sun Apr 18 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.6-2 - fix segfault on httpd SIGHUP (upstream #27810) * Fri Apr 16 2004 Joe Orton 4.3.6-1 - update to 4.3.6 (Robert Scheck, #121011) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ ef35a34e8b1482138fe1850045d279d6 SRPMS/php-4.3.6-5.src.rpm 8e506135471b14fc3696f7a4bcd87c04 i386/php-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm 8d096dc803d950fa9b5647c16607b8d1 i386/php-devel-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm b613f65dbe3b19e0c6ac94f1ae4adc13 i386/php-pear-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm 5a63e7d6914d79082e69bc31e10c229e i386/php-imap-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm 783a1a235a2ea94522d2ab8b6fa4c0b4 i386/php-ldap-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm c178cb06eb01c556b6bb697c8425d3e3 i386/php-mysql-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm 3e0fbf0eb02bd4324cf6867cce366948 i386/php-pgsql-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm b296e994ede3aa2757ca7bfe42453d7b i386/php-odbc-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm c6e9151b4d08de7206690faf884662ba i386/php-snmp-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm 785851f4b5174243e3c2a165262b3627 i386/php-domxml-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm 9572f280018e23d8456d1244caeeadb6 i386/php-xmlrpc-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm c30a1e1e4e4077a38b377f6294c9bd04 i386/debug/php-debuginfo-4.3.6-5.i386.rpm ea0fcff448be4458c3ae27a53f9062e5 x86_64/php-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm e66916450aca8c475967c3f5fc07a299 x86_64/php-devel-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm 00575a5356c55d9534cd0ca8477310e3 x86_64/php-pear-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm 19d642cd6bad9181a9322f793ef5dfc2 x86_64/php-imap-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm dc0083cb575fa02031c404a2ea0f093b x86_64/php-ldap-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm 929098932915b2f8017a9bb4f39fc62f x86_64/php-mysql-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm 8a8ea52395947bc42315b2a39a74b7ab x86_64/php-pgsql-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm fb0a80fa92a0bdef62fd69f252a3dada x86_64/php-odbc-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm 15e88af901e991bf99dd36bd7bfc7930 x86_64/php-snmp-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm 64cf503b827f7f607bc9056624c02e64 x86_64/php-domxml-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm e0307775ea5b0ae77c58c735b0c2e7dd x86_64/php-xmlrpc-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm b9baced7eb59f59a1dae952eaf9c0917 x86_64/debug/php-debuginfo-4.3.6-5.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From fedora at warmcat.com Mon May 24 12:47:20 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:47:20 +0100 Subject: Back up to square one with sound config In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405241347.29140.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 May 2004 03:54, Harry Putnam wrote: > How can I clean this mess up and start one step at a time with some > chance of debugging my problem? Take it easy, since you have reasonable /var/log/messages stuff maybe you are not far off. I can see two things I might have expected in your list but didn't see. First, cat /proc/asound/cards and see what Alsa thinks you have. Next, have a look and see if you have alsamixer in your path, if not install http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/alsa-utils-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm Make sure you have this guy too rpm -q alsa-lib if not, get it here http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/alsa-lib-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm Then run alsamixer (the gold standard for alsa volume control) and see what you see. Note that many mixer chips have a bit to control the power to an external audio amplifier, if this is set to power the amp off you will get no output. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAse7fjKeDCxMJCTIRAkpZAJ9ZyER/XdKeobc700jcPcELHJ3BEQCeP68B SHSDzyqmxVaCrnEQTCnk4rw= =y05k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jorton at redhat.com Mon May 24 16:10:25 2004 From: jorton at redhat.com (Joe Orton) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:10:25 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: subversion-1.0.4-1 Message-ID: <20040524161025.GA5698@redhat.com> Please report problems as comments to this bug report: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124169 If there are no problems by Wednesday 26th May this will become a final update. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-135 2004-05-24 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : subversion Version : 1.0.4 Release : 1 Summary : Modern Version Control System designed to replace CVS Description : Subversion is a concurrent version control system which enables one or more users to collaborate in developing and maintaining a hierarchy of files and directories while keeping a history of all changes. Subversion only stores the differences between versions, instead of every complete file. Subversion is intended to be a compelling replacement for CVS. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update includes the latest stable version of Subversion, including three user-visible bug fixes: * fixed: pool leaks in 'svnlook diff/changed/dirs-changed' * fixed: insecure script example in pre-commit-hook template * fixed: inability to do a checkout to '/' --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Sat May 22 2004 Joe Orton 1.0.4-1 - update to 1.0.4 * Fri May 21 2004 Joe Orton 1.0.3-2 - build /usr/bin/* as PIEs - add fix for libsvn_client symbol namespace violation (r9608) * Wed May 19 2004 Joe Orton 1.0.3-1 - update to 1.0.3 * Sun May 16 2004 Joe Orton 1.0.2-3 - add ldconfig invocations for -perl post/postun (Ville Skytt?) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 96d8ad443689d35360dbb5f2c10d48b8 SRPMS/subversion-1.0.4-1.src.rpm 136f91beb1438e6669c739cc208aa4f8 i386/subversion-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm 31bce4b37b04b0eb0a9d5924063ea336 i386/subversion-devel-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm d492f2f2fc87e05581fe46edd2933e01 i386/mod_dav_svn-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm 9e20a52ff4b6e2513381129e8c30d889 i386/subversion-perl-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm c3fa9b3d90e7525ca7d2ae619d5cdc05 i386/debug/subversion-debuginfo-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm 0da62a231ae62502818ed471bc2f087c x86_64/subversion-1.0.4-1.x86_64.rpm 96753259a78e8dd892e1419958227205 x86_64/subversion-devel-1.0.4-1.x86_64.rpm 275b26ce13583a20b1e5fdcc357474fc x86_64/mod_dav_svn-1.0.4-1.x86_64.rpm 41f479046902a19f2d91baeeaa250a74 x86_64/subversion-perl-1.0.4-1.x86_64.rpm 0a5b72aa30eb2d97ab7c8ffb02fbf6f3 x86_64/debug/subversion-debuginfo-1.0.4-1.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ocschwar at MIT.EDU Mon May 24 17:13:20 2004 From: ocschwar at MIT.EDU (Omri Schwarz) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:13:20 -0400 Subject: Yum & up2date losing to an RPM conflict. Message-ID: <200405241713.i4OHDK0V019814@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> Hi, I'm trying to get this FC2 machine fully updated, and I lose as follows: # up2date-nox glibc glibc-common glibc-devel http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-2 using mirror: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/2/x86_64/os/ http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc2 using mirror: http://ftp.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/2/x86_64/ Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-2... Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: updates-released-fc2... Fetching rpm headers... ######################################## Name Version Rel ---------------------------------------------------------- glibc 2.3.3 27 i686 glibc 2.3.3 27 x86_64 glibc-common 2.3.3 27 x86_64 glibc-devel 2.3.3 27 x86_64 Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... There was a package dependency problem. The message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 requires glibc > 2.3.2 tzdata-2003d-2 requires glibc-common <= 2.3.2-63 # rpm -q tzdata glibc glibc-common glibc-devel tzdata-2003d-2 glibc-2.3.2-11.9 glibc-2.3.3-18 glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 glibc-common-2.3.3-18 glibc-devel-2.3.3-18 Is there a tzdata RPM thad doesn't have this bizarre catch to it? Thanks in advance, Omri From alan at redhat.com Mon May 24 17:26:33 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:26:33 -0400 Subject: Samba Client on FC 2 - error after mounting a share In-Reply-To: <23100.62.2.21.164.1085374496.squirrel@www.gwch.net> References: <23100.62.2.21.164.1085374496.squirrel@www.gwch.net> Message-ID: <20040524172633.GC19161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 06:54:56AM +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > [snip my log (dmesg)] > smb_lookup: find //.Trash-roger failed, error=-5 > Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address In bugzilla already. Its a kernel problem somewhere with smbfs From alan at redhat.com Mon May 24 17:30:18 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:30:18 -0400 Subject: FC2 and keyboard layouts In-Reply-To: <200405241214.14305.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> References: <200405241214.14305.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> Message-ID: <20040524173018.GD19161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 12:14:11PM +0300, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > Any one noticed that you can't change the keyboard layout ?? > It is not only me, but other friends has suffered the same too. > I am using KDE. system-config-keyboard edits the wrong file it seems. Move the changes it makes into /etc/X11/Xorg.conf (or whatever the Xorg file is called) and see if that helps Seems to be a XFree->Xorg change that got missed and needs an errata From dmalcolm at redhat.com Mon May 24 17:42:48 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:42:48 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085201534.16406.3.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085201534.16406.3.camel@devel2.x32.com.au> Message-ID: <1085420568.29405.8.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 14:52 +1000, Dan wrote: > Is IPv6 working in this build? > > I built this for my FC2 box, and evolution complained it could not > contact my imap server. The imap server has both A and AAAA records, and > evolution 1.4 was handing IPv6 fine. > > A check of the spec file reveals --enable-ipv6, but it seems to do > nothing. > > Should i file a bug over this. Yes please. [snip] From sopwith at redhat.com Mon May 24 17:47:00 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:47:00 -0400 Subject: Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder Message-ID: This is a reminder of the mailing lists for the Fedora Project, and the purpose of each list. You can view this information at http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ When you're using these mailing lists, please take the time to choose the one that is most appropriate to your post. If you don't know the right mailing list to use for a question or discussion, please contact me. This will help you get the best possible answer for your question, and keep other list subscribers happy! Mailing Lists Mailing lists are email addresses which send email to all users subscribed to the mailing list. Sending an email to a mailing list reaches all users interested in discussing a specific topic and users available to help other users with the topic. The following mailing lists are available. To subscribe, send email to -request at redhat.com (replace with the desired mailing list name such as fedora-list) with the word subscribe in the subject. fedora-announce-list - Announcements of changes and events. To stay aware of news, subscribe to this list. fedora-list - For users of releases. If you want help with a problem installing or using , this is the list for you. fedora-test-list - For testers of test releases. If you would like to discuss experiences using TEST releases, this is the list for you. fedora-devel-list - For developers, developers, developers. If you are interested in helping create releases, this is the list for you. fedora-docs-list - For participants of the docs project fedora-desktop-list - For discussions about desktop issues such as user interfaces, artwork, and usability fedora-config-list - For discussions about the development of configuration tools fedora-legacy-announce - For announcements about the Fedora Legacy Project fedora-legacy-list - For discussions about the Fedora Legacy Project fedora-selinux-list - For discussions about the Fedora SELinux Project fedora-de-list - For discussions about Fedora in the German language fedora-ja-list - For discussions about Fedora in the Japanese language fedora-i18n-list - For discussions about the internationalization of Fedora Core fedora-trans-list - For discussions about translating the software and documentation associated with the Fedora Project German: fedora-trans-de French: fedora-trans-fr Spanish: fedora-trans-es Italian: fedora-trans-it Brazilian Portuguese: fedora-trans-pt_br Japanese: fedora-trans-ja Korean: fedora-trans-ko Simplified Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_cn Traditional Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_tw From joe at eshu.net Mon May 24 18:55:55 2004 From: joe at eshu.net (Joe Christy) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:55:55 -0700 Subject: Burning ISO to CD In-Reply-To: <40AE3D51.3000500@ntlworld.com> References: <40AE3D51.3000500@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <40B2453B.2060904@eshu.net> Vis-a-vis Leon Stringer's note of 05/21/2004 10:33 AM: > ... (I'm > checking the md5sum of /dev/cdrom and this comes up with the wrong > number and an error message) > ... I burned my CDs using cdrecord for the commandline (which shouldn't make any difference) and saw the same sort of behavior you report. There was very peculiar constency to the behavior though. It was always on binary iso 3 and the rescue disc iso. As I was bugzilla-ing that, I noticed that not only were the md5sums consistently bad on those iso's, but the bad md5sum I was geting was always the sam, independent of CD/iso. Further, when I used the checkdisc thingy embedded in binary disc 1, it gave the coasters a clean bill of health. When I stuck the coasters back into my burner and md5sum'ed the device again, I got correct md5sums! Then I burned another CD, md5sum'ed it (bad), ejected it, re-inserted it, and md5summed again (OK). I conjecture that burning those particular iso's was leaving my Yamaha cd-rw in some inconsistent state. So, my advice is: don't despair. The CD's may well be OK. Try an independent check, like md5summing in a different drive, or using the diskcheck utility. Joe From czar at czarc.net Mon May 24 19:00:19 2004 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:00:19 -0400 Subject: Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200405241500.19220.czar@czarc.net> On Monday 24 May 2004 13:47, Elliot Lee wrote: > This is a reminder of the mailing lists for the Fedora Project, and > the purpose of each list. You can view this information at > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ > > When you're using these mailing lists, please take the time to choose > the one that is most appropriate to your post. If you don't know the > right mailing list to use for a question or discussion, please contact > me. This will help you get the best possible answer for your question, > and keep other list subscribers happy! I heartily agree that folks need to keep their posts On Topic for the mailing list that they post their message to. For the most part, the various mailing lists have a single topic in mind (fedora-test for beta testing of new releases and proposed updates, fedora-devel for future FC development, etc.). However, the fedora-list mailing list has a very large volume of traffic for for most individuals the signal-to-noise is not worth the effort and they unsubscribe (as I have). Suggestion: create a few more mailing lists which are targeted for specific topics such as perhaps "fedora-config", "fedora-install", "fedora-hardware", "fedora-applications", etc., etc. These might not be exactly the correct ones but I believe that some additional lists such as these could help by having a focused mailing lists with low traffic volumes. While this will not eliminate Off Topic posts, it could help to minimize them by providing low volume mailing list directed toward specific discussion areas. Just a thought ... any comments? -- Gene From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Mon May 24 19:18:29 2004 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:18:29 -0700 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085426309.17498.12.camel@repaper> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > purposes. Enjoy! Two issues: 1) it looks like the old style file selection is back (yuk). 2) it still doesn't compile on x86_64 gcc -O2 -g -pipe -fPIC -I/usr/include/et -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wno-sign-compare -o .libs/test-calendar test-calendar.o -Wl,--export-dynamic ./.libs/libemiscwidgets.so /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/e-util/.libs/libeutil.so -L/usr/X11R6/lib64 -L/usr/lib /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/a11y/widgets/.libs/libevolution-widgets-a11y.so /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/a11y/.libs/libevolution-a11y.so -ledataserver ../../e-util/.libs/libeutil.so /usr/lib64/libpopt.so -lplc4 -lplds4 -lnspr4 -pthread -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnome-2 /usr/lib/libpopt.so -lbonobo-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-activation -lgconf-2 -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lgal-2.2 -lgal-a11y-2.2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lglade-2.0 -lgnomeprint-2-2 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lart_lgpl_2 /usr/lib64/libxml2.so -lpthread -lz -lm -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib64/evolution/1.5 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib /usr/lib/libpopt.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[4]: *** [test-calendar] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/widgets/misc' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/widgets/misc' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/widgets' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8' make: *** [all] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.47317 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.47317 (%build) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dmalcolm at redhat.com Mon May 24 19:39:37 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:39:37 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085426309.17498.12.camel@repaper> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085426309.17498.12.camel@repaper> Message-ID: <1085427577.5121.2.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 12:18 -0700, Tom Duffy wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > > purposes. Enjoy! > > Two issues: Please file these in Bugzilla - thanks! > 1) it looks like the old style file selection is back (yuk). > > 2) it still doesn't compile on x86_64 > > gcc -O2 -g -pipe -fPIC -I/usr/include/et -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wno-sign-compare -o .libs/test-calendar test-calendar.o -Wl,--export-dynamic ./.libs/libemiscwidgets.so /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/e-util/.libs/libeutil.so -L/usr/X11R6/lib64 -L/usr/lib /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/a11y/widgets/.libs/libevolution-widgets-a11y.so /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/a11y/.libs/libevolution-a11y.so -ledataserver ../../e-util/.libs/libeutil.so /usr/lib64/libpopt.so -lplc4 -lplds4 -lnspr4 -pthread -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnome-2 /usr/lib/libpopt.so -lbonobo-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-activation -lgconf-2 -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lgal-2.2 -lgal-a11y-2.2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lglade-2.0 -lgnomeprint-2-2 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lart_lgpl_2 /usr/lib64/libxml2.so -lpthread -lz -lm -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib64/evolution/1.5 -Wl! ,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib > /usr/lib/libpopt.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[4]: *** [test-calendar] Error 1 > make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/widgets/misc' > make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/widgets/misc' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8/widgets' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/evolution-1.5.8' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.47317 (%build) > > > RPM build errors: > Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.47317 (%build) > From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Mon May 24 19:52:43 2004 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:52:43 -0700 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085427577.5121.2.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085426309.17498.12.camel@repaper> <1085427577.5121.2.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085428363.17498.18.camel@repaper> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 15:39 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > Please file these in Bugzilla - thanks! done: 124218 evolution 1.5.[78] does not compile on x86_64 124220 evolution 1.5.8 no longer has gtk 1.4 file selection dialogs -tduffy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From k at dicec.cl Mon May 24 20:04:54 2004 From: k at dicec.cl (Christian B. Ellsworth Capo) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:04:54 -0400 Subject: Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder In-Reply-To: <200405241500.19220.czar@czarc.net> References: <200405241500.19220.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: <1085429094.2513.7.camel@nfsserver_eth1.dicec.cl> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 15:00, Gene C. wrote: > On Monday 24 May 2004 13:47, Elliot Lee wrote: > > This is a reminder of the mailing lists for the Fedora Project, and > > the purpose of each list. You can view this information at > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ > > > > When you're using these mailing lists, please take the time to choose > > the one that is most appropriate to your post. If you don't know the > > right mailing list to use for a question or discussion, please contact > > me. This will help you get the best possible answer for your question, > > and keep other list subscribers happy! > > I heartily agree that folks need to keep their posts On Topic for the mailing > list that they post their message to. For the most part, the various mailing > lists have a single topic in mind (fedora-test for beta testing of new > releases and proposed updates, fedora-devel for future FC development, etc.). > However, the fedora-list mailing list has a very large volume of traffic for > for most individuals the signal-to-noise is not worth the effort and they > unsubscribe (as I have). > > Suggestion: create a few more mailing lists which are targeted for specific > topics such as perhaps "fedora-config", "fedora-install", "fedora-hardware", > "fedora-applications", etc., etc. These might not be exactly the correct > ones but I believe that some additional lists such as these could help by > having a focused mailing lists with low traffic volumes. While this will not > eliminate Off Topic posts, it could help to minimize them by providing low > volume mailing list directed toward specific discussion areas. > > Just a thought ... any comments? you got my vote.. even this current list has perhaps adding a +x86_64 at the end of the current lists... to denote the AMD64 arch... that could be my 2c -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From janina at rednote.net Mon May 24 22:01:33 2004 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 18:01:33 -0400 Subject: FC2 Installation via Telnet Bug Message-ID: <20040524220133.GK18881@rednote.net> I have more news regarding the bug I reported on this list some weeks ago. I'm sorry, I've tried to put it into Bugzilla, but 2,571 hyperlinks and active fields on one web page exceeds even my capacity. Yes, that's the number lynx reports. So, someone, please help. Here's the story: Whether setting a static or using dhcp, attempting to set up installation via telnet breaks at the point a telnet connection is made to the machine where the installation is to be done. Now that I have speech running for the installer, I can report the error that is displayed in Console 3. There's no /dev/ttyp0 to receive the telnet connection. So, installing via telnet remains broken. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 From aoliva at redhat.com Mon May 24 22:49:59 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 24 May 2004 19:49:59 -0300 Subject: Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder In-Reply-To: <200405241500.19220.czar@czarc.net> References: <200405241500.19220.czar@czarc.net> Message-ID: On May 24, 2004, "Gene C." wrote: > However, the fedora-list mailing list has a very large volume of traffic for > for most individuals the signal-to-noise is not worth the effort and they > unsubscribe (as I have). > Suggestion: create a few more mailing lists which are targeted for specific > Just a thought ... any comments? Already suggested in the mailing list you unsubscribed, and deemed as a bad idea. Maybe search the archives? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From dmalcolm at redhat.com Tue May 25 00:21:03 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 20:21:03 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085426309.17498.12.camel@repaper> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085426309.17498.12.camel@repaper> Message-ID: <1085444463.2401.0.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 12:18 -0700, Tom Duffy wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > > purposes. Enjoy! > > Two issues: > > 1) it looks like the old style file selection is back (yuk). > This is now fixed, grab 1.5.8-2 for the new dialogs. [snip] From fedora at andrewfarris.com Tue May 25 00:31:22 2004 From: fedora at andrewfarris.com (Andrew Farris) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:31:22 -0700 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085396208.1121.1.camel@tarjei> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> <1085396208.1121.1.camel@tarjei> Message-ID: <1085445082.3773.2.camel@CirithUngol> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 12:56 +0200, Tarjei Knapstad wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 01:09, Andrew Farris wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > > > If you upgrade to these packages from an earlier 1.5.x version you may > > need to run > > evolution --force-shutdown > > before using the new version. Without doing that there is some > > confusion (in my case evolution-alarm-notify got stuck in a cpu loop..). > > > > Alternatively there's the killev script that will shut down Evolution > completely. (unless it's been removed?) > > -- > Tarjei killev was deprecated (and now seems completely removed) in 1.5.x, the --force-shutdown option replaced it to do much the same thing. -- Andrew Farris, CPE senior (California Polytechnic State University, SLO) fedora at andrewfarris.com :: lmorgul on irc.freenode.net From redhat-jc at insight.rr.com Tue May 25 02:28:41 2004 From: redhat-jc at insight.rr.com (Jim Cornette) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 22:28:41 -0400 Subject: FC2 Installation via Telnet Bug In-Reply-To: <20040524220133.GK18881@rednote.net> References: <20040524220133.GK18881@rednote.net> Message-ID: <40B2AF59.6030004@insight.rr.com> Janina Sajka wrote: > I have more news regarding the bug I reported on this list some weeks ago. I'm sorry, I've tried to put it into Bugzilla, but 2,571 hyperlinks and active fields on one web page exceeds even my capacity. Yes, that's the number lynx reports. So, someone, please help. > > Here's the story: > > Whether setting a static or using dhcp, attempting to set up installation via telnet breaks at the point a telnet connection is made to the machine where the installation is to be done. Now that I have speech running for the installer, I can report the error that is displayed in Console 3. > > There's no /dev/ttyp0 to receive the telnet connection. > > So, installing via telnet remains broken. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124248 I came up with zarro bugs submitted. I added this bug # 124248 Jim -- You will reach the highest possible point in your business or profession. From wacker at octothorp.org Tue May 25 03:23:39 2004 From: wacker at octothorp.org (William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:23:39 -0600 (MDT) Subject: FC2 Installation via Telnet Bug In-Reply-To: <40B2AF59.6030004@insight.rr.com> References: <20040524220133.GK18881@rednote.net> <40B2AF59.6030004@insight.rr.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 May 2004, Jim Cornette wrote: > Janina Sajka wrote: > > I have more news regarding the bug I reported on this list some weeks ago. I'm sorry, I've tried to put it into Bugzilla, but 2,571 hyperlinks and active fields on one web page exceeds even my capacity. Yes, that's the number lynx reports. So, someone, please help. > > > > Here's the story: > > > > Whether setting a static or using dhcp, attempting to set up installation via telnet breaks at the point a telnet connection is made to the machine where the installation is to be done. Now that I have speech running for the installer, I can report the error that is displayed in Console 3. > > > > There's no /dev/ttyp0 to receive the telnet connection. > > > > So, installing via telnet remains broken. > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124248 > > I came up with zarro bugs submitted. I added this bug # 124248 > Thanks for that. In the passed, I've installed many systems remotely for people who found it a bit too daunting. -- Bill in Denver From reader at newsguy.com Tue May 25 03:24:56 2004 From: reader at newsguy.com (Harry Putnam) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 22:24:56 -0500 Subject: Back up to square one with sound config In-Reply-To: <200405241347.29140.fedora@warmcat.com> (Andy Green's message of "Mon, 24 May 2004 13:47:20 +0100") References: <200405241347.29140.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: Andy Green writes: > On Monday 24 May 2004 03:54, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> How can I clean this mess up and start one step at a time with some >> chance of debugging my problem? > > Take it easy, since you have reasonable /var/log/messages stuff maybe you are > not far off. I can see two things I might have expected in your list but > didn't see. > > First, cat /proc/asound/cards and see what Alsa thinks you have. $ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [I82801BAICH2 ]: ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2 Intel 82801BA-ICH2 at 0xe800, irq 9 > Next, have a look and see if you have alsamixer in your path, if not install $ rpm -qa|grep alsa alsa-lib-devel-1.0.4-1 alsa-utils-1.0.3-1 alsa-lib-1.0.4-1 $ which alsamixer /usr/bin/alsamixer > Then run alsamixer (the gold standard for alsa volume control) and see what > you see. Note that many mixer chips have a bit to control the power to an > external audio amplifier, if this is set to power the amp off you will get no > output. Thanks, you've saved me a slow terrible suicide... I tried alsamixer some time ago and got somekind of error and it didn't run. I don't think I've tried it since. That was all I needed. Took a little mucking around to figure out what stuff did what. Only remaining thing I see wrong is that the output isn't near as clear and staticless as it is when these speakers and sound card are used on a windows xp machine. They are just junkyard powered computer speakers but sound ok when connected to a different machine. So must be the signal coming to them is different somehow. From goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Tue May 25 07:42:41 2004 From: goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6tz_Reinicke?=) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:42:41 +0200 Subject: kernel 2.6.6-1.377 warnings - unknown symbol Message-ID: <40B2F8F1.9080101@filmakademie.de> Hi after a "rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.6-1.377.i686.rpm" I get: WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.377smp/kernel/fs/jffs2/jffs2.ko needs unknown symbol jffs2_add_physical_node_ref WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.377smp/kernel/fs/jffs2/jffs2.ko needs unknown symbol jffs2_garbage_collect_pass WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.377smp/kernel/fs/jffs2/jffs2.ko needs unknown symbol jffs2_flash_direct_writev WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.377smp/kernel/fs/jffs2/jffs2.ko needs unknown symbol jffs2_reserve_space_gc WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.377smp/kernel/fs/jffs2/jffs2.ko needs unknown symbol jffs2_erase_pending_trigger WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.377smp/kernel/fs/jffs2/jffs2.ko needs unknown symbol jffs2_alloc_raw_node_ref regards g?tz -- G?tz Reinicke IT Koordinator - IT OfficeNet Tel. +49 (0) 7141 - 969 420 Fax +49 (0) 7141 - 969 55 420 goetz.reinicke at filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-W?rttemberg Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de From fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl Tue May 25 08:48:37 2004 From: fedora at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:48:37 +0200 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085444463.2401.0.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085426309.17498.12.camel@repaper> <1085444463.2401.0.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085474917.2672.22.camel@guru.puzzled.xs4all.nl> On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 02:21, David Malcolm wrote: [snip and apologies if this is too OT] Hi David, Is is possible to install 1.58 while retaining 1.4.6? Or do I need to upgrade my current FC2 evolution, gtkhtml3, libgal2 and libsoup versions to the ones from your repository? Thanks, Patrick From m.eldesoky at tedata.net Tue May 25 07:53:37 2004 From: m.eldesoky at tedata.net (Mohamed Eldesoky) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:53:37 +0300 Subject: FC2 and keyboard layouts In-Reply-To: <20040524173018.GD19161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200405241214.14305.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> <20040524173018.GD19161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405251053.40541.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 May 2004 8:30 pm, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 12:14:11PM +0300, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > > Any one noticed that you can't change the keyboard layout ?? > > It is not only me, but other friends has suffered the same too. > > I am using KDE. > > system-config-keyboard edits the wrong file it seems. Move the changes > it makes into /etc/X11/Xorg.conf (or whatever the Xorg file is called) and > see if that helps > > Seems to be a XFree->Xorg change that got missed and needs an errata ohhh, Alan himself replying to me ?? :-) Well, it was reported in the bugzilla before the release of FC2 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121950 God knows why it wasn't fixed before the release !! Regards Mohamed Eldesoky -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAsvuD2FHsOWMJBKMRAlHEAKCvi6U62foB3IAtenSQAUVIbgDc0gCfQbnD 5KTwVSkT/ryVLT0SBXXMsgA= =r6vD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 25 11:19:51 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:19:51 -0400 Subject: FC2 and keyboard layouts In-Reply-To: <20040524173018.GD19161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <200405241214.14305.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> <20040524173018.GD19161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405250719.56379.ndbecker2@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 May 2004 1:30 pm, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 12:14:11PM +0300, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > > Any one noticed that you can't change the keyboard layout ?? > > It is not only me, but other friends has suffered the same too. > > I am using KDE. > > system-config-keyboard edits the wrong file it seems. Move the changes > it makes into /etc/X11/Xorg.conf (or whatever the Xorg file is called) and > see if that helps > > Seems to be a XFree->Xorg change that got missed and needs an errata Ahh, I see there are 2 different problems we are talking about. I'm talking about the fact that on KDE control-center/regional & accessability/keyboard-layout, the "switching options" and "Xkb options" are blank. This was not true with any kde I've used before, or any I built myself. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAsyvaMDqogpR5tkMRArLSAJoDx/IBM5u75YZoIknYLrg7ktpUowCePczh QpG4GrmtesZ7rXBlA6ZixLw= =wp/L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 25 07:49:50 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (PFJ) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:49:50 +0100 Subject: Evolution has gone insane! Message-ID: <1085471390.25977.7.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Hi, Can anyone help me on this? I've been running the beta versions of Evolution on a number of machines for quite a while now and on the whole, they seem far more stable (and a lot nicer to use) than the 1.4 branch. I've hit a problem with one of the machines at home though. Evolution downloads email from 3 accounts (work, home and from my ISP), these are then split between a number of folders. There are also a number of profiles on it (home, work, C Vu, private and another I can't remember) where the email is also filtered (for instance, material for C Vu is downloaded from my home account (ukpost.com) and is filtered to the C Vu folder, material for wxWidgets and mono are filtered through to their respective folders as well - you get the idea). None of that is a problem - it works well. The problem is that there is now about 60 (and growing) number of autogenerated signatures and I can't seem to see where they are stored. One thing I have noticed is that some of the old (and now gone) signatures are still on the signature lists. These were defined as .txt files for use with the 1.4 releases. Would not having these be causing the problem and if that is the case, how do I remove the signatures from the list? TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kms at passback.co.uk Tue May 25 07:39:58 2004 From: kms at passback.co.uk (Keith Sharp) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:39:58 +0100 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085444463.2401.0.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085426309.17498.12.camel@repaper> <1085444463.2401.0.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085470798.7876.2.camel@animal> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 20:21 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 12:18 -0700, Tom Duffy wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > > > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > > > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > > > > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > > > purposes. Enjoy! > > > > Two issues: > > > > 1) it looks like the old style file selection is back (yuk). > > > This is now fixed, grab 1.5.8-2 for the new dialogs. When I upgraded from 1.5.8-1 I got the following: $ sudo rpm -Uvh evolution-1.5.8-2.i386.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:evolution ########################################### [100%] WARNING: Failed to parse default value `' for schema (/schemas/apps/evolution/addressbook/display/vpane_position) Other than the message from RPM, Evolution works pretty well. Keith. -- Keith Sharp Passback IT Consultancy From fedora at warmcat.com Tue May 25 09:14:41 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:14:41 +0100 Subject: Back up to square one with sound config In-Reply-To: References: <200405241347.29140.fedora@warmcat.com> Message-ID: <200405251014.41538.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 25 May 2004 04:24, Harry Putnam wrote: Good news! > Only remaining thing I see wrong is that the output isn't near as > clear and staticless as it is when these speakers and sound card are > used on a windows xp machine. They are just junkyard powered > computer speakers but sound ok when connected to a different > machine. So must be the signal coming to them is different somehow. A common issue with modern soundcards is that they are only happy clocked at 48kHz. If your audio is coming in at 44.1kHz because that's all your player app knows how to handle, it sounds wrong, scratchy, tinny, but still understandable. If you have mplayer for example, you can check to see if this is the problem... mplayer -ao alsa1x -af resample=48000 myfile.mp3 There is a way to set alsa to autoresample transparently, I read about it in the tips section at fedoranews.org I think, but I didn't try it. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAsw6BjKeDCxMJCTIRAhIFAJ40YNo2M5XQmNjYCeg0bgYmRz8AogCdFL2T ka1hwM0XoohDh6LRxSVWerU= =vTHY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fedora at linsolutions.com Tue May 25 01:05:58 2004 From: fedora at linsolutions.com (Ted Kaczmarek) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:05:58 -0400 Subject: fc2 kernel panic In-Reply-To: References: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <1085359225.16781.34.camel@tarkus> <1085410524.28091.5.camel@tarkus> Message-ID: <1085447158.29934.9.camel@tarkus> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 11:15 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Mon, 24 May 2004, Ted Kaczmarek wrote: > > > On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 06:52 -0400, Thomas Molina wrote: > > > > root at inyoureyes boot]# ls -latr initrd-2.* > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 276009 Aug 20 2003 initrd-2.4.20-20.9.img > > > > This one post yum upgrade. > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 195900 May 23 18:28initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img.old > > > > This one I created "mkinitrd 2.6.5-1.358" > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 194628 May 23 18:34 initrd-2.6.5-1.358smp.img > > > > And Arjans latest test kernel. > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 195429 May 23 19:13 initrd-2.6.6-1.376smp.img > > > > > > > > > > > > mkrootdev: label / not found > > > > mount: error 2 mounting ext3 > > > > pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2 > > > > umount /initrd/proc failed: 2 > > > > Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed > > > > Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel > > this is one of the banes of my current existence -- people claiming > "kernel panic" when it's just a missing/broken init. > > i know it sounds pedantic, but i'm working on a project that involves > messing considerably with the init structure (replacing it with minit, > actually, so it's not unexpected to mess that up and get a broken init > and get that kind of error message.) > > given that i'm looking after the kernel, i freak out just a little when > someone comes running up, saying, "i just got a kernel panic!". then i > see that it's a boot-time init problem, and i calm down. > > so, might it be possible to be a bit more precise in the subject lines > than the generic, catch-all "fc2 kernel panic"? > > rday I apologize for the lack of detail in my subject, but I thought I made it crystal clear in the body. Us less experienced users depend on feedback from people just like you, whether it be good or bad. I would love to learn more about your minit project, so please do keep us posted :-) Sorry for any trouble my poor subject matter might have caused you. Regards, Ted From arjanv at redhat.com Tue May 25 13:08:25 2004 From: arjanv at redhat.com (Arjan van de Ven) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:08:25 +0200 Subject: new kernel for testing Message-ID: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Hi, I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded to the testing area on the fedora download site. Highlights include * Update to 2.6.7-rc1 * A patch to improve suspend/resume to ram behavior (If your laptop failed before, please test with this) * Major USB update * The VIA C3 bug is fixed * Minor ACPI update The idea is to do a final update kernel in a week or two, which will include some more bugfixes and hopefully the 2.6.7-final kernel. However it's still useful to get this "inbetween point" tested to see if we're going in the right direction. 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From rpjday at mindspring.com Tue May 25 13:19:25 2004 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:19:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: fc2 kernel panic In-Reply-To: <1085447158.29934.9.camel@tarkus> References: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <1085359225.16781.34.camel@tarkus> <1085410524.28091.5.camel@tarkus> <1085447158.29934.9.camel@tarkus> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 May 2004, Ted Kaczmarek wrote: > On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 11:15 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... > > so, might it be possible to be a bit more precise in the subject lines > > than the generic, catch-all "fc2 kernel panic"? > > > > rday > I apologize for the lack of detail in my subject, but I thought I made > it crystal clear in the body. that's all right, it's just that, in the linux world, the phrase "kernel panic" generally gets peoples' attention in a real hurry, so putting it in a subject line will definitely get you some hits. that it's just due to a missing or broken "init" means some folks can start breathing more easily again. > I would love to learn more about your minit project, so please do keep > us posted :-) the "minit" thing is pretty much for an embedded system i'm working on. replaces /sbin/init with /sbin/minit, and defines a new directory-based structure for starting services at boot time, with properties like "once" and "respawn". and also provides an "msvc" command for prodding "minit" to stop, start and restart services. definitely cool, but perhaps not much value outside of the embedded system world. it's not my project, i'm just using it. you can read about it at http://www.fefe.de/minit/ rday From mike at netlyncs.com Tue May 25 13:26:52 2004 From: mike at netlyncs.com (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:26:52 -0500 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <1085491246.3984.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085491246.3984.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <1085491612.3980.4.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 08:20 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 15:08 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded > > to the testing area on the fedora download site. > > Um, where is this *testing* area? Only thing I see is rawhide > (development), and that kernel version is currently .377? Disregard, as I found it on your people.redhat.com dir. (installing now) -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's always better to hurt a little now, than to hurt a lot later!" From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue May 25 13:33:15 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:33:15 -0400 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <1085491246.3984.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085491246.3984.1.camel@scrappy.netlyncs.com> Message-ID: <604aa79104052506331dc60ba4@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 25 May 2004 08:20:46 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 15:08 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded > > to the testing area on the fedora download site. > > Um, where is this *testing* area? Only thing I see is rawhide > (development), and that kernel version is currently .377? updates-testing, already provided in fc2 yum.conf as a commented out section. [updates-testing] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch/ and a commented out section in up2date sources as well. -jef From robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl Tue May 25 13:47:50 2004 From: robn at verdi.et.tudelft.nl (Rob van Nieuwkerk) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:47:50 +0200 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040525154750.6aa92203.robn@verdi.et.tudelft.nl> On Tue, 25 May 2004 15:08:25 +0200 Arjan van de Ven wrote: > I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded > to the testing area on the fedora download site. > Highlights include > * Update to 2.6.7-rc1 > * A patch to improve suspend/resume to ram behavior > (If your laptop failed before, please test with this) > * Major USB update > * The VIA C3 bug is fixed > * Minor ACPI update Hi Arjan, I see this in the rpm changelog: * Thu May 20 2004 Arjan van de Ven - put firewire race fix in (datacorruptor) Is firewire supposed to be completely OK now ? (would be great !!) I tried 2.6.6-1.377 rawhide yesterday (which has the same firewire fix) and it seemed to work. (did 100+ GB rsync to external firewire disk without apparent problems). greetings, Rob van Nieuwkerk From shahms at shahms.com Tue May 25 14:59:38 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:59:38 -0700 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085497177.23547.261.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> Does this kernel still include the "hide SCSI devices from sg" patch? I can see that it doesn't yet include the tmscsim module, which would also be nice to see ;-P (Okay, Okay, I'll stop mentioning it...) -- Shahms King From dpullman at nist.gov Tue May 25 17:17:40 2004 From: dpullman at nist.gov (David Pullman) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:17:40 -0400 Subject: Error messages on new version of autofs on FC2 Message-ID: <40B37FB4.4090307@nist.gov> We have a several indirect NIS maps that support Fedora, RedHat 9, SGI and Sun workstations, including a homedirs map. The homedirs mounts are failing under FC2, where they work fine with the other OSs listed, including FC1. The homedirs maps have a quota option specified, for example one line in the map is: mel -quota meles1:/meles1/home_mel The syslog message is: May 21 17:08:02 ballyhoo automount[7854]: failed to mount /home/mel May 21 17:08:02 ballyhoo automount[7856]: >> Unsupported nfs mount option: quota May 21 17:08:02 ballyhoo automount[7856]: mount(nfs): nfs: mount failure meles1:/meles1/home_mel on /home/mel Anyone see anything like this? Is this related to the new autofs version? Is it possible to correct this in the autofs init script, or is it only going to be encountered at the time it parses the homedirs map? Thanks for any input. --David From balay at fastmail.fm Tue May 25 18:47:50 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:47:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: ACPI with the new kernel doesn't work on IBM ThinkPad T40. With echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep the machine briefly attempts to go to sleep and then comes back. The relavent info from the log ----- 383 ----- PM: Preparing system for suspend Stopping tasks: ==========================================================================| PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.7 to 64 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:00.0 (0000 -> 0002) PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:00.1 (0000 -> 0002) PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:01.0 (0000 -> 0003) PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:01.0 to 64 Restarting tasks... done agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode [drm] Loading R200 Microcode e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex ---------- 358 - release kernel that works --------- PM: Preparing system for suspend Stopping tasks: ============================================================================| PM: Entering state. Back to C! zapping low mappings. PM: Finishing up. PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.0 to 64 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.1 to 64 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.2 to 64 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: HC died; cleaning up blk: queue 39ed4e00, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) Restarting tasks...<6>input: PS/2 Generic Mouse on isa0060/serio1 done agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode [drm] Loading R200 Microcode e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex ----------------------- Will log the complete dmesg info in bugzilla. Satish On Tue, 25 May 2004, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > Hi, > > I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded > to the testing area on the fedora download site. > Highlights include > * Update to 2.6.7-rc1 > * A patch to improve suspend/resume to ram behavior > (If your laptop failed before, please test with this) > * Major USB update > * The VIA C3 bug is fixed > * Minor ACPI update > > The idea is to do a final update kernel in a week or two, which will include > some more bugfixes and hopefully the 2.6.7-final kernel. However it's still > useful to get this "inbetween point" tested to see if we're going in the > right direction. > > Greetings, > Arjan van de Ven From dmalcolm at redhat.com Tue May 25 19:11:25 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:11:25 -0400 Subject: Evolution has gone insane! In-Reply-To: <1085471390.25977.7.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> References: <1085471390.25977.7.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1085512285.2401.19.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 08:49 +0100, PFJ wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone help me on this? > > I've been running the beta versions of Evolution on a number of machines > for quite a while now and on the whole, they seem far more stable (and a > lot nicer to use) than the 1.4 branch. > > I've hit a problem with one of the machines at home though. > > Evolution downloads email from 3 accounts (work, home and from my ISP), > these are then split between a number of folders. There are also a > number of profiles on it (home, work, C Vu, private and another I can't > remember) where the email is also filtered (for instance, material for C > Vu is downloaded from my home account (ukpost.com) and is filtered to > the C Vu folder, material for wxWidgets and mono are filtered through to > their respective folders as well - you get the idea). > > None of that is a problem - it works well. The problem is that there is > now about 60 (and growing) number of autogenerated signatures and I > can't seem to see where they are stored. I believe this is fixed; I've added some comments to the bugzilla entry you made for this: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123385 > One thing I have noticed is that some of the old (and now gone) > signatures are still on the signature lists. These were defined as .txt > files for use with the 1.4 releases. Would not having these be causing > the problem and if that is the case, how do I remove the signatures from > the list? > > TTFN > > Paul From dmalcolm at redhat.com Tue May 25 19:21:31 2004 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:21:31 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085470798.7876.2.camel@animal> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085426309.17498.12.camel@repaper> <1085444463.2401.0.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085470798.7876.2.camel@animal> Message-ID: <1085512891.2401.22.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 08:39 +0100, Keith Sharp wrote: [snip] > > When I upgraded from 1.5.8-1 I got the following: > > $ sudo rpm -Uvh evolution-1.5.8-2.i386.rpm > Preparing... ########################################### [100%] > 1:evolution ########################################### [100%] > WARNING: Failed to parse default value `' for schema (/schemas/apps/evolution/addressbook/display/vpane_position) Please file a bug - thanks! > > Other than the message from RPM, Evolution works pretty well. Good to hear. I'm been using 1.5.8 for a few days now, and haven't managed to crash it yet. Must try harder :-) Dave Malcolm From philip at balister.org Tue May 25 19:33:49 2004 From: philip at balister.org (Philip Balister) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:33:49 -0400 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085513629.3413.6.camel@hc652c2e5.dhcp.vt.edu> I see the same behavior on my Dell D600 with S3. Of course I've never really had it work correctly. I am getting really serious about figuring it out though, I need it working bad now. I am running 2.6.6-1.377 Philip On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 14:47, Satish Balay wrote: > ACPI with the new kernel doesn't work on IBM ThinkPad T40. With > > echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep > > the machine briefly attempts to go to sleep and then comes back. > > The relavent info from the log > > ----- > 383 > ----- > PM: Preparing system for suspend > Stopping tasks: ==========================================================================| > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.7 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 > PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:00.0 (0000 -> 0002) > PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:00.1 (0000 -> 0002) > PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:01.0 (0000 -> 0003) > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:01.0 to 64 > Restarting tasks... done > agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode > [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex > > ---------- > 358 - release kernel that works > --------- > PM: Preparing system for suspend > Stopping tasks: ============================================================================| > PM: Entering state. > Back to C! > zapping low mappings. > PM: Finishing up. > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.0 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.1 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.2 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 > ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: HC died; cleaning up > blk: queue 39ed4e00, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) > Restarting tasks...<6>input: PS/2 Generic Mouse on isa0060/serio1 > done > agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode > [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex > > ----------------------- > > Will log the complete dmesg info in bugzilla. > > Satish > > > > On Tue, 25 May 2004, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded > > to the testing area on the fedora download site. > > Highlights include > > * Update to 2.6.7-rc1 > > * A patch to improve suspend/resume to ram behavior > > (If your laptop failed before, please test with this) > > * Major USB update > > * The VIA C3 bug is fixed > > * Minor ACPI update > > > > The idea is to do a final update kernel in a week or two, which will include > > some more bugfixes and hopefully the 2.6.7-final kernel. However it's still > > useful to get this "inbetween point" tested to see if we're going in the > > right direction. > > > > Greetings, > > Arjan van de Ven > From kevin at finway.co.uk Tue May 25 19:49:16 2004 From: kevin at finway.co.uk (Kevin Coffin) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:49:16 +0100 Subject: FC2 and keyboard layouts In-Reply-To: <200405250719.56379.ndbecker2@verizon.net> References: <200405241214.14305.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> <20040524173018.GD19161@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <200405250719.56379.ndbecker2@verizon.net> Message-ID: <6d87b0h4oa185lhppq0cpaegqk42m056gs@4ax.com> On Tue, 25 May 2004 07:19:51 -0400, Neal Becker wrote... >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Monday 24 May 2004 1:30 pm, Alan Cox wrote: >> On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 12:14:11PM +0300, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: >> > Any one noticed that you can't change the keyboard layout ?? >> > It is not only me, but other friends has suffered the same too. >> > I am using KDE. >> >> system-config-keyboard edits the wrong file it seems. Move the changes >> it makes into /etc/X11/Xorg.conf (or whatever the Xorg file is called) and >> see if that helps >> >> Seems to be a XFree->Xorg change that got missed and needs an errata > >Ahh, I see there are 2 different problems we are talking about. I'm talking >about the fact that on KDE control-center/regional & >accessability/keyboard-layout, the "switching options" and "Xkb options" are >blank. This was not true with any kde I've used before, or any I built >myself. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFAsyvaMDqogpR5tkMRArLSAJoDx/IBM5u75YZoIknYLrg7ktpUowCePczh >QpG4GrmtesZ7rXBlA6ZixLw= >=wp/L >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- There appears to be something missed in KDE during the change from XFree to Xorg. My work around is as root cd to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb and ln -s xorg.lst xfree86.lst ln -s xorg.xml xfree86.xml The keyboard layout options should reappear in the control panel. Kevin From balay at fastmail.fm Tue May 25 19:48:44 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:48:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <1085513629.3413.6.camel@hc652c2e5.dhcp.vt.edu> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085513629.3413.6.camel@hc652c2e5.dhcp.vt.edu> Message-ID: I've created a bugzilla entry for this at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124337 I've had other grief (e1000 driver doesnt' work after acpi suspend) - which I wanted to check again. I couldn't get that far. However apm continues to work. Satish On Tue, 25 May 2004, Philip Balister wrote: > I see the same behavior on my Dell D600 with S3. Of course I've never > really had it work correctly. I am getting really serious about figuring > it out though, I need it working bad now. I am running 2.6.6-1.377 > > Philip > > > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 14:47, Satish Balay wrote: >> ACPI with the new kernel doesn't work on IBM ThinkPad T40. With >> >> echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep >> >> the machine briefly attempts to go to sleep and then comes back. >> From ndbecker2 at verizon.net Tue May 25 20:12:59 2004 From: ndbecker2 at verizon.net (Neal Becker) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:12:59 -0400 Subject: FC2 and keyboard layouts In-Reply-To: <6d87b0h4oa185lhppq0cpaegqk42m056gs@4ax.com> References: <200405241214.14305.m.eldesoky@tedata.net> <200405250719.56379.ndbecker2@verizon.net> <6d87b0h4oa185lhppq0cpaegqk42m056gs@4ax.com> Message-ID: <200405251612.59997.ndbecker2@verizon.net> On Tuesday 25 May 2004 3:49 pm, Kevin Coffin wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2004 07:19:51 -0400, Neal Becker > wrote... > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Monday 24 May 2004 1:30 pm, Alan Cox wrote: > >> On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 12:14:11PM +0300, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote: > >> > Any one noticed that you can't change the keyboard layout ?? > >> > It is not only me, but other friends has suffered the same too. > >> > I am using KDE. > >> > >> system-config-keyboard edits the wrong file it seems. Move the changes > >> it makes into /etc/X11/Xorg.conf (or whatever the Xorg file is called) > >> and see if that helps > >> > >> Seems to be a XFree->Xorg change that got missed and needs an errata > > > >Ahh, I see there are 2 different problems we are talking about. I'm > > talking about the fact that on KDE control-center/regional & > >accessability/keyboard-layout, the "switching options" and "Xkb options" > > are blank. This was not true with any kde I've used before, or any I > > built myself. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > > >iD8DBQFAsyvaMDqogpR5tkMRArLSAJoDx/IBM5u75YZoIknYLrg7ktpUowCePczh > >QpG4GrmtesZ7rXBlA6ZixLw= > >=wp/L > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > There appears to be something missed in KDE during the change from > XFree to Xorg. My work around is as root cd to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb > and > ln -s xorg.lst xfree86.lst > ln -s xorg.xml xfree86.xml > > The keyboard layout options should reappear in the control panel. > Thanks! BTW, that's /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/ From h.mayer at inode.at Tue May 25 20:28:25 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (Hannes Mayer) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:28:25 +0200 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40B3AC69.6090503@inode.at> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > Hi, > > I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded > to the testing area on the fedora download site. > Highlights include > * Update to 2.6.7-rc1 > * A patch to improve suspend/resume to ram behavior > (If your laptop failed before, please test with this) > * Major USB update > * The VIA C3 bug is fixed > * Minor ACPI update > > The idea is to do a final update kernel in a week or two, which will include > some more bugfixes and hopefully the 2.6.7-final kernel. However it's still > useful to get this "inbetween point" tested to see if we're going in the > right direction. > > Greetings, > Arjan van de Ven > GREAT!! Thanks for the notification!! I just installed it and it works perfect!! Even the spindown-during-reboot-"feature" is gone :-))) Thanks again, Hannes. From notting at redhat.com Tue May 25 20:34:49 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:34:49 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: kudzu-1.1.68-1 Message-ID: <20040525203449.GG8072@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-140 2004-05-25 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : kudzu Version : 1.1.68 Release : 1 Summary : The Red Hat Linux hardware probing tool. Description : Kudzu is a hardware probing tool run at system boot time to determine what hardware has been added or removed from the system. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update fixes a problem when handling modules that contain a '-' in the name (such as ne2k-pci); in the presence of these, some modules would not get loaded or unloaded correctly. Included are also some minor fixes for architectures other than x86 or x86-64. If no new regressions are found, this package will be pushed as a final update by Friday, May 28. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Mon May 24 2004 Bill Nottingham - 1.1.68-1 - fix checking of modules loaded which have a - in their name as /proc/modules will contain an _ instead, this time for the !loader case (#122983, at least) * Fri May 21 2004 Jeremy Katz - 1.1.67-1 - look for module.usbmap under /modules also for anaconda usage * Wed May 19 2004 Bill Nottingham 1.1.66-1 - MacIO fixes (#115286, ) * Thu May 13 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.1.65-1 - add CTC and Escon detection (mainframe) * Tue May 11 2004 Karsten Hopp 1.1.64-1 - change QETH module name back, newer kernels have reverted the name change * Mon May 10 2004 Jeremy Katz - 1.1.63-1 - minor fix for viodasd probing --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 7b184c064d3b7b401e3aebd1e5dca183 SRPMS/kudzu-1.1.68-1.src.rpm a4ffa5caa0e71aafce94081d03a32c3e i386/kudzu-1.1.68-1.i386.rpm c60054d2d6eb990caf8cafccb312f144 i386/kudzu-devel-1.1.68-1.i386.rpm 45f1866fe47ba80b9d66130ddaa59774 i386/debug/kudzu-debuginfo-1.1.68-1.i386.rpm bee3615869af52b267cff084ee68e6a7 x86_64/kudzu-1.1.68-1.x86_64.rpm f7fe4170103c3d907eaf90e28ea9ab8c x86_64/kudzu-devel-1.1.68-1.x86_64.rpm e0de29cec1673b41bcca3487d4f9b091 x86_64/debug/kudzu-debuginfo-1.1.68-1.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From notting at redhat.com Tue May 25 20:43:04 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:43:04 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 1 Test Update: vsftpd-1.2.1-4.fc1 Message-ID: <20040525204304.GH8072@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-141 2004-05-25 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 1 Name : vsftpd Version : 1.2.1 Release : 4.fc1 Summary : vsftpd - Very Secure Ftp Daemon Description : vsftpd is a Very Secure FTP daemon. It was written completely from scratch. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update upgrades vsftpd to the code shipped in Fedora Core 2. Notable is a fix for the signal handling in the listener code that can cause the listener to hang. (bug #109933, #113364) If no new regressions are found, this will be pushed as a final update by Friday, May 28. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue May 25 2004 Bill Nottingham 1.2.1-4.FC1 - build for FC1 * Mon May 03 2004 Bill Nottingham 1.2.1-5 - fix all references to vsftpd.conf to be /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf, including in the binary (#121199, #104075) * Thu Mar 25 2004 Bill Nottingham 1.2.1-4 - don't call malloc()/free() in signal handlers (#119136, ) * Fri Feb 13 2004 Elliot Lee - rebuilt * Mon Nov 24 2003 Karsten Hopp 1.2.1-1 - update to 1.2.1, which fixes #89765 and lot of other issues - remove manpage patch, it isn't required anymore - clean up init script - don't use script to find libs to link with (lib64 issues) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 420fa4030b0794876ba57277a65f6cd7 SRPMS/vsftpd-1.2.1-4.fc1.src.rpm 504562451ebe59f6dc25db7902325f79 i386/vsftpd-1.2.1-4.fc1.i386.rpm 89fa426bcd80a82bb32547d6f03e054b i386/debug/vsftpd-debuginfo-1.2.1-4.fc1.i386.rpm 8042b35120e06bdf5487c61d03095a9f x86_64/vsftpd-1.2.1-4.fc1.x86_64.rpm 80a242b75160937f26206177be7ada71 x86_64/debug/vsftpd-debuginfo-1.2.1-4.fc1.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean at charlug.org Tue May 25 21:47:37 2004 From: sean at charlug.org (Sean Hogston) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:47:37 -0400 Subject: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders In-Reply-To: <1085396895.3325.82.camel@matrix> References: <1085396895.3325.82.camel@matrix> Message-ID: <1085521657.5857.19.camel@quicksilver.hogston.lan> what chipset do you have? Nvidia? On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > Hi, > > I have a DELL Precision M60. > > When I choose a resolution 1920x1200, I end up with unwanted 0.5in. > borders on the side. How can this be resolved? > > On the other hand if I choose 1920x1440 then the display is indeed full > but my task bar is now off the bottom of the display. Does any one have > a magic "XF86Config" file? > > > Thanks > -- > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > From barryn at pobox.com Tue May 25 21:05:20 2004 From: barryn at pobox.com (Barry K. Nathan) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:05:20 -0700 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040525210520.GB9595@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 03:08:25PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > Hi, > > I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded > to the testing area on the fedora download site. Where are the kernel-smp packages? AFAICT they're missing both from the testing area and from people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6. -Barry K. Nathan From stan at ccs.neu.edu Tue May 25 21:07:23 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:07:23 -0400 Subject: fc2 kernel panic In-Reply-To: <1085359225.16781.34.camel@tarkus> References: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <1085359225.16781.34.camel@tarkus> Message-ID: <1085519242.1393.4148.camel@duergar> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 20:40, Ted Kaczmarek wrote: > A. Did a yum upgrade earlier today from fc1 to fc2 and it appears > like the initrd.imgcreated is bad. Boot squaks like it can't > read the drive label, booted into 2.4 kernel and dumpe2fs shows > the right label. This box has 2 scsi drives, 3 ide and 2 > cdrom's, smp athlon. > > My typical work around is to rebuild kernel and not use initrd.img. > But this looks different to my untrained eyes. No thoughts, but I'm having the same problem when trying to compile custom kernels from devel... something about VFS and label though the drives are fine and the labels are correct. Seems to be a problem with mkinitrd image. Should probably check out bugzilla...I've been lazy, you might want to check it out. -sb > Ted > > > > From stan at ccs.neu.edu Tue May 25 21:13:11 2004 From: stan at ccs.neu.edu (Stan Bubrouski) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:13:11 -0400 Subject: fc2 kernel panic In-Reply-To: <1085519242.1393.4148.camel@duergar> References: <1085356002.20504.0.camel@delerium.codemonkey.org.uk> <1085359225.16781.34.camel@tarkus> <1085519242.1393.4148.camel@duergar> Message-ID: <1085519590.1393.4155.camel@duergar> Ignore my last message, I didn't read the error carefully enough, I've that same error for two reasons, but they came down to the same thing mkinitrd image corrupt. -sb On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 17:07, Stan Bubrouski wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 20:40, Ted Kaczmarek wrote: > > A. Did a yum upgrade earlier today from fc1 to fc2 and it appears > > like the initrd.imgcreated is bad. Boot squaks like it can't > > read the drive label, booted into 2.4 kernel and dumpe2fs shows > > the right label. This box has 2 scsi drives, 3 ide and 2 > > cdrom's, smp athlon. > > > > My typical work around is to rebuild kernel and not use initrd.img. > > But this looks different to my untrained eyes. > > > No thoughts, but I'm having the same problem when trying to compile > custom kernels from devel... something about VFS and label though the > drives are fine and the labels are correct. Seems to be a problem with > mkinitrd image. Should probably check out bugzilla...I've been lazy, > you might want to check it out. > > -sb > > > Ted > > > > > > > > > From guan at unicast.org Tue May 25 21:40:28 2004 From: guan at unicast.org (Guan Yang) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:40:28 +0200 Subject: 2.6.6-1.383 pxeboot files: call for help Message-ID: <23E720DA-AE94-11D8-8904-000A95EA9BDE@unicast.org> Hi, I was installing FC2 on my VIA Epia M10000 board (VIA C3 CPU) through PXE (because isolinux complains about a buggy bios), and was experiencing the kernel reboot-on-load problem. After replacing vmlinuz with vmlinuz from 2.6.6-1.383.i586, it boots fine and starts up the installer, but now the installer can't find my network card drivers (for installation over FTP). I tried extracting initrd, extracting modules.cgz and copying in the relevant .ko files from the 2.6.6-1.383.i586 RPM, but it doesn't seem to work - loader complains about cpio header. (Sorry I don't have an exact error message, but it scrolls by pretty quickly before the Installer starts.) I was wondering whether anyone could easily build vmlinuz and initrd.img for pxeboot for 2.6.6-1.383, or already have a copy. If so, I would greatly appreciate a copy! (I don't have an existing fc2 environment where I can run the anaconda-runtime scripts.) Thanks, Guan From ernesto at ornl.gov Tue May 25 22:14:42 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Ernest L. Williams Jr.) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 18:14:42 -0400 Subject: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders In-Reply-To: <1085521657.5857.19.camel@quicksilver.hogston.lan> References: <1085396895.3325.82.camel@matrix> <1085521657.5857.19.camel@quicksilver.hogston.lan> Message-ID: <1085523282.16510.21.camel@dragon.sns.ornl.gov> On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 17:47, Sean Hogston wrote: > what chipset do you have? Nvidia? Yes, I have Nvidia. Please help. > > > On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a DELL Precision M60. > > > > When I choose a resolution 1920x1200, I end up with unwanted 0.5in. > > borders on the side. How can this be resolved? > > > > On the other hand if I choose 1920x1440 then the display is indeed full > > but my task bar is now off the bottom of the display. Does any one have > > a magic "XF86Config" file? > > > > > > Thanks > > -- > > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > > From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 25 22:19:15 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:19:15 +0100 Subject: Evolution has gone insane! In-Reply-To: <1085512285.2401.19.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085471390.25977.7.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1085512285.2401.19.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085523555.14006.11.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > None of that is a problem - it works well. The problem is that there is > > now about 60 (and growing) number of autogenerated signatures and I > > can't seem to see where they are stored. > > I believe this is fixed; I've added some comments to the bugzilla entry > you made for this: > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123385 Nope. Can't find the key you're refering to. That said, I don't have a directory on /home/paul called evolution either. TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can't find the key you're refering to. That said, I don't have a > directory on /home/paul called evolution either. Evolution 1.5.* stores stuff in ~/.evolution, rather than ~/evolution (at last!); this should have a signatures subdirectory. What content does it have? Dave From seyman at wanadoo.fr Tue May 25 22:30:04 2004 From: seyman at wanadoo.fr (Emmanuel Seyman) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 00:30:04 +0200 Subject: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders In-Reply-To: <1085523282.16510.21.camel@dragon.sns.ornl.gov> References: <1085396895.3325.82.camel@matrix> <1085521657.5857.19.camel@quicksilver.hogston.lan> <1085523282.16510.21.camel@dragon.sns.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <20040525223004.GA5522@orient.maison.moi> On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 06:14:42PM -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > Yes, I have Nvidia. > Please help. Cut and paste this in your XF86Config/xorg.conf file: Section "Modes" Identifier "16:10" # 1280x800 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 62.62 kHz; pclk: 107.21 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 107.21 1280 1360 1496 1712 800 801 804 835 # 1280x800 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 71.40 kHz; pclk: 123.38 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 123.38 1280 1368 1504 1728 800 801 804 840 # 1280x800 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 84.80 kHz; pclk: 147.89 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 147.89 1280 1376 1512 1744 800 801 804 848 # 1680x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 147.14 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 # 1680x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 188.07 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 188.07 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1096 # 1680x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 214.51 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 214.51 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1103 # 1680x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 256.20 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 256.20 1680 1808 1992 2304 1050 1051 1054 1112 # 1920x1200 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.97 kHz; pclk: 246.59 MHz Modeline "1920x1200" 246.59 1920 2064 2272 2624 1200 1201 1204 1253 # 1920x1200 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 107.10 kHz; pclk: 282.74 MHz Modeline "1920x1200" 282.74 1920 2072 2280 2640 1200 1201 1204 1260 # 1920x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 337.58 MHz Modeline "1920x1200" 337.58 1920 2072 2288 2656 1200 1201 1204 1271 EndSection In the "Monitor" section of the file, add these two lines: Modeline "1920x1200" 246.59 1920 2064 2272 2624 1200 1201 1204 1253 UseModes "16:10" Finally, in the "Screen" section, put "1920x1200" first in the list of Modes for the "Display" subsection. Save the changes, restart XFree86/X.org with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and you should be in fullscreen. Emmanuel From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Tue May 25 22:45:13 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:45:13 +0100 Subject: Evolution has gone insane! In-Reply-To: <1085523906.19160.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085471390.25977.7.camel@jeeves.music.salford.ac.uk> <1085512285.2401.19.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085523555.14006.11.camel@T7.linux> <1085523906.19160.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085525113.14006.13.camel@T7.linux> Hi, > > Nope. Can't find the key you're refering to. That said, I don't have a > > directory on /home/paul called evolution either. > > Evolution 1.5.* stores stuff in ~/.evolution, rather than ~/evolution > (at last!); this should have a signatures subdirectory. What content > does it have? 7 signatures (which is right). 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You can either boot off that or use the kernel from it with PXE After the install you will need to either do a rescue boot or PXE boot with the right rootfs to install the new kernel From mrsam at courier-mta.com Tue May 25 22:56:34 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 18:56:34 -0400 Subject: new kernel for testing References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040525210520.GB9595@ip68-4-98-123.oc.oc.cox.net> Message-ID: Barry K. Nathan writes: > On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 03:08:25PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded >> to the testing area on the fedora download site. > > Where are the kernel-smp packages? AFAICT they're missing both from the > testing area and from people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6. ? For both the i386 and x86_64 platforms, I might add. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I already have a /boot partition for FC1 and > I am wondering if I can just point the FC2 install to this during > installation - will it add itself correctly to grub.conf, or will it > crash my FC1 boot options ? Is this just a bad idea ? > > cheers Chris -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dr Chris R Jones work : +44 (0)1223 337324 | | HEP Group (rm 882) fax : +44 (0)1223 353920 | | Cavendish Laboratory, home : +44 (0)1223 510711 | | Madingley Road, email: jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk | | Cambridge, CB3 0HE http://www.hep.phy.cam.ac.uk/~jonesc | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From ernesto at ornl.gov Wed May 26 01:32:24 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:32:24 -0400 Subject: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A094D@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Hi, I still could not get 1920x1200. However, 1680x1050 worked. Should I be using the nvidia driver distributed with Fedora? ================ XF86Config snippet ========================= Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nv" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "NVIDIA Quadro FX (generic)" EndSection ============================================================== -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Emmanuel Seyman Sent: Tue 5/25/2004 6:30 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 06:14:42PM -0400, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > Yes, I have Nvidia. > Please help. Cut and paste this in your XF86Config/xorg.conf file: Section "Modes" Identifier "16:10" # 1280x800 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 62.62 kHz; pclk: 107.21 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 107.21 1280 1360 1496 1712 800 801 804 835 # 1280x800 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 71.40 kHz; pclk: 123.38 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 123.38 1280 1368 1504 1728 800 801 804 840 # 1280x800 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 84.80 kHz; pclk: 147.89 MHz Modeline "1280x800" 147.89 1280 1376 1512 1744 800 801 804 848 # 1680x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 147.14 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 # 1680x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 188.07 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 188.07 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1096 # 1680x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 214.51 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 214.51 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1103 # 1680x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 256.20 MHz Modeline "1680x1050" 256.20 1680 1808 1992 2304 1050 1051 1054 1112 # 1920x1200 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.97 kHz; pclk: 246.59 MHz Modeline "1920x1200" 246.59 1920 2064 2272 2624 1200 1201 1204 1253 # 1920x1200 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 107.10 kHz; pclk: 282.74 MHz Modeline "1920x1200" 282.74 1920 2072 2280 2640 1200 1201 1204 1260 # 1920x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 337.58 MHz Modeline "1920x1200" 337.58 1920 2072 2288 2656 1200 1201 1204 1271 EndSection In the "Monitor" section of the file, add these two lines: Modeline "1920x1200" 246.59 1920 2064 2272 2624 1200 1201 1204 1253 UseModes "16:10" Finally, in the "Screen" section, put "1920x1200" first in the list of Modes for the "Display" subsection. Save the changes, restart XFree86/X.org with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and you should be in fullscreen. Emmanuel -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From aoliva at redhat.com Wed May 26 01:56:15 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 25 May 2004 22:56:15 -0300 Subject: 2.6.6-1.383 pxeboot files: call for help In-Reply-To: <23E720DA-AE94-11D8-8904-000A95EA9BDE@unicast.org> References: <23E720DA-AE94-11D8-8904-000A95EA9BDE@unicast.org> Message-ID: On May 25, 2004, Guan Yang wrote: > loader complains about cpio header You probably chose the wrong cpio format. 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However it's still > useful to get this "inbetween point" tested to see if we're going in the > right direction. > > Greetings, > Arjan van de Ven > From thepoch at mydestiny.net Wed May 26 08:08:45 2004 From: thepoch at mydestiny.net (Dexter Ang) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:08:45 +0800 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40B4508D.5040304@mydestiny.net> Arjan van de Ven wrote: > * A patch to improve suspend/resume to ram behavior > (If your laptop failed before, please test with this) Using an IBM Thinkpad T30 2366-81A. Suspend works, kinda. It leaves my LCD monitor backlight on. There's a little switch on the T30 that turns off backlight when closing the lid, but after a suspend, the backlight won't turn off. Also, when resuming, mouse no longer works in X. CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE doesn't bring the mouse back. init 3, then init 5 also doesn't bring it back. Reboot is the only solution. This is for both the builtin trackpad and pointing stick as well as external USB mouse. Any particular log data I can provide? I've looked through /var/log/acpid and /var/log/messages and there doesn't seem to be anything particular about it, but then my eyes are not good with logs. Using 2.6.6-1.383. I would like to note it was the same with the stock 2.6.5-1.358. dex From nphilipp at redhat.com Wed May 26 09:36:02 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:36:02 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gimp-gap-2.0.2-1 Message-ID: <1085564162.6104.11.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> If there are no problems by Wednesday, June 2nd this will become a final update. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-142 2004-05-26 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : gimp-gap Version : 2.0.2 Release : 1 Summary : The GIMP Animation Package. Description : The GIMP-GAP (GIMP Animation Package) is a collection of Plug-Ins to extend GIMP 2.0 with capabilities to edit and create animations as sequences of single frames. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Updated to version 2.0.2 which has enhancements and bugfixes. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue May 25 2004 Nils Philippsen - version 2.0.2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 8f29ab60505fd7ae83a9b1a9fa6dfb3c SRPMS/gimp-gap-2.0.2-1.src.rpm 0bb007cb8703cc2b0bf51f28cc589556 i386/gimp-gap-2.0.2-1.i386.rpm 989520c6ffa1d05a66405a90c78bb5fe i386/debug/gimp-gap-debuginfo-2.0.2-1.i386.rpm 3a01d365de32fce2419d6d98b306a212 x86_64/gimp-gap-2.0.2-1.x86_64.rpm 2ce7f902b00ae1f845d6c3a38842a456 x86_64/debug/gimp-gap-debuginfo-2.0.2-1.x86_64 .rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. 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Ummmm In-Reply-To: <40B0AB50.6080807@rogers.com> References: <40B03427.6060903@rogers.com> <20040523110218.GD25746@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <40B0AB50.6080807@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040526094402.GA23981@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 09:46:56AM -0400, Dwaine Garden wrote: > It is a maxtor drive. What in the maxtor drive is causing the problem > that other drives do not have? > Different cache timings? Certain maxtor drives report that they support LBA48 cache flush, but also report they don't support LBA48 (large disk). In that situation Linux tried to issue an LBA48 cache flush and the drive rejected it. It is fixed upstream From manlio.frizzi at brainforce.it Wed May 26 11:17:18 2004 From: manlio.frizzi at brainforce.it (Manlio Frizzi) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 13:17:18 +0200 Subject: Fedora 2 installation problem on Dell Latitude L100 Message-ID: Hi all! I've just got a Dell Latitude 100L. Graphic card is an integrated Intel 82852 GME that's correctly discovered while booting FC2 from the first installation CD before the X session for installation/setup the screen go green and nothing more happen. I try the linux nofb option but nothing change!!! Please help me installing FC2 un my new laptop (I don't want this damn WinXP...) Thank you in advance MAnlio <-.??.???) o (?'?.??.->---------------<-.??.???) o (?'?.??.-> Cordiali Saluti. Best Regards. Manlio Frizzi ( http://kame.usr.dsi.unimi.it/home/albert/manlio ) 348 7674165 W2K MCSE -- Linux user #278128 http://counter.li.org -o) Fedora Core 2 /\ Kernel 2.4.26 _\_v on a i686 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tsiddharth at kodiaknetworks.com Wed May 26 11:56:35 2004 From: tsiddharth at kodiaknetworks.com (Siddharth Toshniwal) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:26:35 +0530 Subject: some issues with nautilus MIME associations and thumbnails Message-ID: <1085572595.3510.209.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> Hi all, Have been facing a few issues with nautilus for the last couple of days. I've upgraded my system (which was originally RedHat 9) using up2date using the rawhide channel, so I guess I may have some packages which are not working well with each other. I don't know exactly which upgrade has resulted in these problems, so I'm posting for help if anyone has solved similar issues. The details are as follows: * Nautilus does not show thumbnails for some of the images within one directory while for others (which have the same extension) it does so properly. Opening the images with either eog or gimp does not report any errors. * I seem to have some problem with *all* my MIME associations (including the ones that are configured by default usually) Even if I associate them manually (.jpg to eog, .doc to star-office and so on), nautilus does not open the same when I double click in the file window. I have to open any documents using the terminal only :( The file association is shown correctly the next time I double click the file and click on 'Associate', but somehow the association does not work on its own. The packages that I have installed are: nautilus-media-0.8.0-2 nautilus-2.6.0-5 shared-mime-info-0.14-1 gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-4 gnome-vfs2-2.6.0-8 I read up the following article but it is not clear to me yet as to what I've done incorrectly: http://www.amitysolutions.com.au/documents/GnomeFiles-technote.pdf thanks, Siddharth. From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Wed May 26 12:15:23 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 08:15:23 -0400 Subject: some issues with nautilus MIME associations and thumbnails In-Reply-To: <1085572595.3510.209.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> References: <1085572595.3510.209.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> Message-ID: <40B48A5B.1060302@rogers.com> Siddharth Toshniwal wrote: >Hi all, > >Have been facing a few issues with nautilus for the last >couple of days. I've upgraded my system (which was originally >RedHat 9) using up2date using the rawhide channel, so I >guess I may have some packages which are not working well >with each other. I don't know exactly which upgrade has >resulted in these problems, so I'm posting for help if >anyone has solved similar issues. The details are as follows: > >* Nautilus does not show thumbnails for some of the images > within one directory while for others (which have the same > extension) it does so properly. Opening the images with > either eog or gimp does not report any errors. > >* I seem to have some problem with *all* my MIME associations > (including the ones that are configured by default usually) > Even if I associate them manually (.jpg to eog, .doc to > star-office and so on), nautilus does not open the same > when I double click in the file window. I have to open > any documents using the terminal only :( > The file association is shown correctly the next time I > double click the file and click on 'Associate', but > somehow the association does not work on its own. > >The packages that I have installed are: > nautilus-media-0.8.0-2 > nautilus-2.6.0-5 > shared-mime-info-0.14-1 > gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-4 > gnome-vfs2-2.6.0-8 > >I read up the following article but it is not clear to >me yet as to what I've done incorrectly: >http://www.amitysolutions.com.au/documents/GnomeFiles-technote.pdf > >thanks, >Siddharth. > > > > > I have the same problem with Konqueror. No thumbnails previews. Dwaine. From sean at charlug.org Wed May 26 13:29:08 2004 From: sean at charlug.org (Sean Hogston) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:29:08 -0400 Subject: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders In-Reply-To: <1085523282.16510.21.camel@dragon.sns.ornl.gov> References: <1085396895.3325.82.camel@matrix> <1085521657.5857.19.camel@quicksilver.hogston.lan> <1085523282.16510.21.camel@dragon.sns.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <1085578148.6499.12.camel@quicksilver.hogston.lan> Here is my config. This is on FC1 with the nvidia driver. Sean On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 18:14, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 17:47, Sean Hogston wrote: > > what chipset do you have? Nvidia? > > Yes, I have Nvidia. > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a DELL Precision M60. > > > > > > When I choose a resolution 1920x1200, I end up with unwanted 0.5in. > > > borders on the side. How can this be resolved? > > > > > > On the other hand if I choose 1920x1440 then the display is indeed full > > > but my task bar is now off the bottom of the display. Does any one have > > > a magic "XF86Config" file? > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > -- > > > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- # XFree86 4 configuration created by redhat-config-xfree86 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dri" Load "GLcore" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Option "XkbDisable" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "PS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then # this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you # also use USB mice at the same time. Identifier "DevInputMice" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "WUXGA" HorizSync 28-110 VertRefresh 43-90 Option "DPMS" Modeline "1920x1200" 162 1920 1984 2176 2480 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "GeForce 4200 Go" Driver "nvidia" # Option "NoLogo" "true" Option "FlatPanelProperties" "aspect-scaled" Option "RenderAccel" "off" Option "UseEdidFreqs" "on" Option "NvAgp" "2" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "GeForce 4200 Go" Monitor "WUXGA" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1920x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection From zimhat at foou.net Wed May 26 13:15:16 2004 From: zimhat at foou.net (Law Horne) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 08:15:16 -0500 Subject: new kernel for testing Message-ID: <1085577315.2719.9.camel@Basanizo> Well my networking fails with the new kernel. This is what I get in /var/log/boot.log : May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: --- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics --- May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: , pipe 4 May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: failed. May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo network: Bringing up interface eth0: failed It works just fine in 2.6.5-1.358. Also I did not notice before but but mdmpd fails also, on both kernels apparently. But if I understand what this is correctly I do not even need this running unless I have a raid setup(which I don't) is that correct? Well in anycase if there is an easy way to fix this I ddo not know it. Thanks Law From craig at 8010.co.uk Wed May 26 13:47:13 2004 From: craig at 8010.co.uk (Craig Tinson) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:47:13 +0100 Subject: lost about versions.. Message-ID: <40B49FE1.8020202@8010.co.uk> guys.. I have a set of disks here I downloaded and wrote dated 9th May.. will these be the offical FC2 release? or are we at another version now and I'll have to re-download and burn again? also.. if I *do* have to re-download.. would prefer a dvd install (have more blank dvd's than cd's.. lol) so where's the best place to get that? I can't seem to find dvd iso's on the mirrors.. Thanks and sorry if this has been covered.. it's been a *seriously* long day so far.. lol Cheers -- Craig Tinson 8010 Media Ltd \|||/ (o o) ----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo----------------------------- _ _ /: Thbbft. | Craig Tinson | "The most overlooked \'o.O; _/ | 8010 Media Ltd | advantage of owning a =(___)= | Email: craig at 8010.co.uk | computer is that if |U| | Tel: 0113 249 7027 | they foul up there's | Mob: 0788 061 3892 | no law against whacking | MSN: cgtinson at hotmail.com | them around a bit." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Wed May 26 13:58:37 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: lost about versions.. In-Reply-To: <40B49FE1.8020202@8010.co.uk> References: <40B49FE1.8020202@8010.co.uk> Message-ID: <4593.12.29.16.103.1085579917.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Craig Tinson said: > guys.. > > I have a set of disks here I downloaded and wrote dated 9th May.. will > these be the offical FC2 release? According to the schedule that is most likely Fedora Core 2 Test 3. http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Simply looking at the release notes in the ISO should tell you. > or are we at another version now and > I'll have to re-download and burn again? If you want FC2, yes. > also.. if I *do* have to re-download.. would prefer a dvd install (have > more blank dvd's than cd's.. lol) so where's the best place to get that? > I can't seem to find dvd iso's on the mirrors.. You aren't looking hard enough. Not all mirrors carry it, but some do. The kernel.org and duke mirrors have it, for example. Another option would be the torrent. -- William Hooper From craig at 8010.co.uk Wed May 26 14:00:28 2004 From: craig at 8010.co.uk (Craig Tinson) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:00:28 +0100 Subject: lost about versions.. In-Reply-To: <4593.12.29.16.103.1085579917.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <40B49FE1.8020202@8010.co.uk> <4593.12.29.16.103.1085579917.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <40B4A2FC.8000207@8010.co.uk> William Hooper wrote: >You aren't looking hard enough. Not all mirrors carry it, but some do. >The kernel.org and duke mirrors have it, for example. Another option >would be the torrent. > > > okies.. will look at those mirrors... thanks for the info.. :) Cheers Craig -- Craig Tinson 8010 Media Ltd \|||/ (o o) ----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo----------------------------- _ _ /: Thbbft. | Craig Tinson | "The most overlooked \'o.O; _/ | 8010 Media Ltd | advantage of owning a =(___)= | Email: craig at 8010.co.uk | computer is that if |U| | Tel: 0113 249 7027 | they foul up there's | Mob: 0788 061 3892 | no law against whacking | MSN: cgtinson at hotmail.com | them around a bit." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ernesto at ornl.gov Wed May 26 14:28:43 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:28:43 -0400 Subject: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A094E@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Hi This did not work for me under Fedora2 -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Sean Hogston Sent: Wed 5/26/2004 9:29 AM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders Here is my config. This is on FC1 with the nvidia driver. Sean On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 18:14, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 17:47, Sean Hogston wrote: > > what chipset do you have? Nvidia? > > Yes, I have Nvidia. > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a DELL Precision M60. > > > > > > When I choose a resolution 1920x1200, I end up with unwanted 0.5in. > > > borders on the side. How can this be resolved? > > > > > > On the other hand if I choose 1920x1440 then the display is indeed full > > > but my task bar is now off the bottom of the display. Does any one have > > > a magic "XF86Config" file? > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > -- > > > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > > > > > From rcavey at g0mos16.gsfcmo.ecs.nasa.gov Wed May 26 14:59:52 2004 From: rcavey at g0mos16.gsfcmo.ecs.nasa.gov (Robert Cavey) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:59:52 -0400 Subject: some items that might be of interest to FC2 developers and users In-Reply-To: <200405260328.i4Q3SbM08138@mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200405260328.i4Q3SbM08138@mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1085583592.2761.85.camel@gsfcb.ecs.nasa.gov> I am no help on one (I don't use gnome) and two(never used Komoto). > > 3. Does anyone know why the SUN JRE plugin > doesn't display some java stuff using > mozilla? I do Internet Banking and installed > the SUN JRE 1.4.2, even tried the 1.5 beta, > and the java app doesn't display. By the > way, this also happens with RHEL ES v3. Is > there a particular JRE I should install or is > there something more sinister? > Make sure you link to the proper .so compiled with gcc32 ls -la /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjava* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 67 May 20 10:38 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_04/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so* Java started working fine after I made this change. > Cheers, > John. From michal at harddata.com Wed May 26 15:32:47 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:32:47 -0600 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: ; from balay@fastmail.fm on Tue, May 25, 2004 at 01:47:50PM -0500 References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040526093247.A5500@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 01:47:50PM -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > ACPI with the new kernel doesn't work on IBM ThinkPad T40. With > > echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep > > the machine briefly attempts to go to sleep and then comes back. I am observing the same on Acer Travelmate 230 (with the newest BIOS which is available). OTOH when using 2.6.5-1.358 from FC2 release this laptop does goes to sleep and even resumes - in a sense - with this small detail that after a resume video is absolutely dead. The box can be accessed and used over a network although some other bits and pieces, like floppy, are also gone. Michal From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk Wed May 26 16:08:29 2004 From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:08:29 +0100 Subject: Really strange CDRW problem Message-ID: <1085587709.4427.8.camel@T7.linux> Hi, I have some CDRWs which work up to x10. To my understanding, that means they're happy on CDRWs upto x10. When I try to burn using k3b or xcdroast, all that I get is that the drive doesn't support x10 discs. These discs work fine on a Win98 box with a 8x4x32 drive in (iomega zip CDRW - same as I have in my linux machine) Any ideas what gives on this? TTFN Paul -- "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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These discs work fine on a Win98 box > with a 8x4x32 drive in (iomega zip CDRW - same as I have in my linux > machine) > > Any ideas what gives on this? > between the 4X cdrw and the 10X+ cdrw, i think there is a difference, the faster disks have a different logo(HIGH SPEED CDRW), on my old HP 9300i (10x4x32x) i couldn't write highspeed disks (10x) in any speed, only the old 1,2,4X disks. this was in windoze or linux. > TTFN > > Paul -- Christian B. Ellsworth Capo (k at dicec.cl) Linux Chief Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer (RHCE) DICEC Ltda. Mariano Sanchez Fontecillas 966b, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Phone (56 2) 2633340 Fax (56 2) 2071820 Mobile (56 9) 4195632 All Your Base Are Belong To Tux From kirillov at math.sunysb.edu Wed May 26 16:22:10 2004 From: kirillov at math.sunysb.edu (Alexander Kirillov) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:22:10 -0400 Subject: gstreamer-lameplugin In-Reply-To: <1085338109.5888.1.camel@dopeflish.dopeflish.net> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> <1085309175.14044.4.camel@pluto.cdu.edu.au> <20040523202941.3e1c74b6.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1085337625.4748.7.camel@dopeflish.dopeflish.net> <1085338109.5888.1.camel@dopeflish.dopeflish.net> Message-ID: <1085588530.2323.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 14:48, Nicholas Ruddick wrote: > Sorry I made a mistake had the wrong gstreamer-plugin-mp3 rpm installed. > For fedora 2 you need gstreamer-plugins-mp3-0.8.1-0.lvn.1.2 from > rpm.livna.org . > > Works beautifully now, nice work! A related question: where one can find plugin to enable mp3 *encoding* for gstreamer (or sound-juicer, which is gstreamer based)? I have lame installed, but this is not enough: google search suggests that I need gstreamer-lame plugin. Anybody know where to find one? Sasha From shahms at shahms.com Wed May 26 16:48:28 2004 From: shahms at shahms.com (Shahms King) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:48:28 -0700 Subject: gstreamer-lameplugin In-Reply-To: <1085588530.2323.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085180945.17172.4.camel@CirithUngol> <1085309175.14044.4.camel@pluto.cdu.edu.au> <20040523202941.3e1c74b6.fedora@wir-sind-cool.org> <1085337625.4748.7.camel@dopeflish.dopeflish.net> <1085338109.5888.1.camel@dopeflish.dopeflish.net> <1085588530.2323.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1085590108.23547.292.camel@shahms.mesd.k12.or.us> On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 09:22, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 14:48, Nicholas Ruddick wrote: > > Sorry I made a mistake had the wrong gstreamer-plugin-mp3 rpm installed. > > For fedora 2 you need gstreamer-plugins-mp3-0.8.1-0.lvn.1.2 from > > rpm.livna.org . > > > > Works beautifully now, nice work! > > A related question: where one can find plugin to enable mp3 *encoding* > for gstreamer (or sound-juicer, which is gstreamer based)? I have lame > installed, but this is not enough: google search suggests that I need > gstreamer-lame plugin. Anybody know where to find one? > > Sasha If you're on Fedora Core 2, it should be the same plugin. If it isn't, add rpm.livna.org to your yum.conf and run # yum install gstreamer-plugins\* and it should pull over that and any other plugins you might be missing. -- Shahms King From markf78 at yahoo.com Wed May 26 17:35:10 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: gdb error messages : No such file or directory Message-ID: <20040526173510.58254.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- is anyone else seeing this? i'm referring to the "errors while reading/mapping library symbols"... [root at markf78 code]# gcc exp.c -g [root at markf78 code]# gdb a.out GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.0post-0.20040223.19rh) Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux-gnu"...Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1". (gdb) b main Breakpoint 1 at 0x8048380: file exp.c, line 8. (gdb) r Starting program: /home/code/a.out Error while mapping shared library sections: : Success. Error while reading shared library symbols: : No such file or directory. Error while reading shared library symbols: : No such file or directory. Error while reading shared library symbols: : No such file or directory. Breakpoint 1, main () at exp.c:8 8 for (j=1; j<=2046; j++) (gdb) my programs appear to run fine but this message seems like something is amuck somewhere... here's my version info, it's pretty much FC2 updated to rawhide (with exception of the kernel): [root at markf78 code]# rpm -qa | grep glibc glibc-2.3.3-30 glibc-devel-2.3.3-30 glibc-kernheaders-2.4-8.46 glibc-common-2.3.3-30 glibc-headers-2.3.3-30 [root at markf78 code]# rpm -q gdb gcc kernel gdb-6.0post-0.20040223.19 gcc-3.3.3-7 kernel-2.6.6-1.368 mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From alan at redhat.com Wed May 26 17:37:21 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 13:37:21 -0400 Subject: gdb error messages : No such file or directory In-Reply-To: <20040526173510.58254.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040526173510.58254.qmail@web11410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040526173721.GA27984@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 10:35:10AM -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > Hello- > > is anyone else seeing this? i'm referring to the "errors while reading/mapping > library symbols"... FC2 has this problem as well. Its in bugzilla From gcarter at aesgi.com Wed May 26 18:35:42 2004 From: gcarter at aesgi.com (Gregory G Carter) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 13:35:42 -0500 Subject: Really strange CDRW problem In-Reply-To: <1085588359.6090.6.camel@nfsserver_eth1.dicec.cl> References: <1085587709.4427.8.camel@T7.linux> <1085588359.6090.6.camel@nfsserver_eth1.dicec.cl> Message-ID: <40B4E37E.3060904@aesgi.com> Just a general comment about rewritables... Just because you can burn a CD on one drive, does't mean all drives will read it. Obviously, do not burn a CD at 10x if someone you are going to give the CD ROM too doesn't have a 10x drive. If you can't read it, just burn the drive at a lower speed, and always make sure you have the latest Orange book classification firmware for your CDROM drive. (i.e. you should update the firmware in the drive if you consistently have issues at supported speeds...check with your manufacturer of your drive to insure you have the latest updated firmware.) Many drive sellers OEM the same drive so it might take some doing to get the right firmware if you have a off brand drive. FYI. -gc Christian B. Ellsworth Capo wrote: >On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 12:08, Paul wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I have some CDRWs which work up to x10. To my understanding, that means >>they're happy on CDRWs upto x10. >> >>When I try to burn using k3b or xcdroast, all that I get is that the >>drive doesn't support x10 discs. These discs work fine on a Win98 box >>with a 8x4x32 drive in (iomega zip CDRW - same as I have in my linux >>machine) >> >>Any ideas what gives on this? >> >> >> > >between the 4X cdrw and the 10X+ cdrw, i think there is a difference, >the faster disks have a different logo(HIGH SPEED CDRW), on my old HP >9300i (10x4x32x) i couldn't write highspeed disks (10x) in any speed, >only the old 1,2,4X disks. >this was in windoze or linux. > > > > >>TTFN >> >>Paul >> >> From eric at interplas.com Wed May 26 18:37:27 2004 From: eric at interplas.com (Eric Wood) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:37:27 -0400 Subject: megaraid 2 drivers for FC2? Message-ID: <035101c44350$9217bb50$b100000a@M145Primary> Has anyone got a LSI 320 raid card going with FC 2 final or beta? I just tried installing FC2 final and it doesn't detect the controller with the megaraid driver. I was expecting to see a megaraid2 in the list - but not there. FC1 installed fine with the old megaraid driver. Now FC2 doesn't seem to even see the controller at all even with the same megaraid driver. Perhaps someone knows of a supplement driver disk? -Eric Wood From cmadams at hiwaay.net Wed May 26 18:45:21 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 13:45:21 -0500 Subject: megaraid 2 drivers for FC2? In-Reply-To: <035101c44350$9217bb50$b100000a@M145Primary> References: <035101c44350$9217bb50$b100000a@M145Primary> Message-ID: <20040526184521.GJ812137@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Eric Wood said: > Has anyone got a LSI 320 raid card going with FC 2 final or beta? I just > tried installing FC2 final and it doesn't detect the controller with the > megaraid driver. I was expecting to see a megaraid2 in the list - but not > there. FC1 installed fine with the old megaraid driver. Now FC2 doesn't > seem to even see the controller at all even with the same megaraid driver. > Perhaps someone knows of a supplement driver disk? The megaraid driver in FC2 looks like version 2.00.3 (so what was called megaraid2 in the past). I haven't tried installing FC2 on any of my systems with MegaRAID cards yet though. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed May 26 20:47:48 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 22:47:48 +0200 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) Message-ID: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> My yum.conf : exactarch=0 usecachedb=1 rpmdb-fedora is installed. $ rpm -q kernel kernel-2.6.5-1.358 $ rpm -q kernel-source package kernel-source is not installed (normal) $ yum info kernel-source Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) [...] Looking in Available Packages: Name : kernel-source <= from updates/testing/2/i386 Arch : noarch <= arch change Version: 2.6.6 Release: 1.383 [...] Name : kernel-source <= from FC2 Arch : i386 Version: 2.6.5 Release: 1.358 [...] $ yum install kernel-source Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) [...] Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies Dependencies resolved I will do the following: Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages Running test transaction: /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory Test transaction complete, Success! /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory Transaction(s) Complete Nothing happened ! $ rpm -q kernel-source package kernel-source is not installed More "strange". $ rpm -q --requires -p kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383.noarch.rpm [...] qt-devel [...] $ rpm -e qt-devel $ yum install kernel-source Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) [...] Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies Dependencies resolved I will do the following: Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages Running test transaction: /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory Test transaction complete, Success! /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory Transaction(s) Complete Manually add the "old" kernel-source $ rpm -i qt-devel-3.3.2-2.i386.rpm kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358.i386.rpm $ yum install kernel-source Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) [...] Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers kernel-source is installed and is the latest version. $ yum update kernel-source Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) [...] Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Resolving dependencies Dependencies resolved I will do the following: [install: kernel-source 2.6.6-1.383.noarch] Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages Getting kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383.noarch.rpm Running test transaction: /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory Test transaction complete, Success! /etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory kernel-source 100 % done 1/1 Installed: kernel-source 2.6.6-1.383.noarch Transaction(s) Complete This work :-) $ rpm -q kernel-source kernel-source-2.6.5-1.358 kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (fine) $ yum info kernel-source Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) [...] Looking in Installed Packages: Name : kernel-source Arch : i386 Version: 2.6.5 Release: 1.358 [...] Name : kernel-source Arch : i386 Version: 2.6.5 Release: 1.358 [...] No 2.6.6-1.383. Perhaps it's because kernel-source change its arch from "i386" to "noarch". Please note that the default yum.conf use "exactarch=1". I don't think it's a good idea to change kernel-source arch during FC2 . I think we should push this change for FC3. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Wed May 26 21:01:28 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:01:28 -0400 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> > [...] > Name : kernel-source <= from FC2 > Arch : i386 > Version: 2.6.5 > Release: 1.358 > [...] > ugh - kernel-source changed ARCH?! How did that happen? > Perhaps it's because kernel-source change its arch from "i386" to > "noarch". > > Please note that the default yum.conf use "exactarch=1". > I don't think it's a good idea to change kernel-source arch during FC2 . > I think we should push this change for FC3. This sounds un-pretty. -sv From feliciano.matias at free.fr Wed May 26 21:08:24 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 23:08:24 +0200 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> Message-ID: <1085605704.4831.256.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mer 26/05/2004 ? 23:01, seth vidal a ?crit : > > [...] > > Name : kernel-source <= from FC2 > > Arch : i386 > > Version: 2.6.5 > > Release: 1.358 > > [...] > > > > > ugh - kernel-source changed ARCH?! > How did that happen? rpm -q --changelog -p kernel-2.6.6-1.383.src.rpm [...] * mar mai 18 2004 Arjan van de Ven - update to 2.6.6-bk3 - made kernel-source and kernel-doc noarch.rpm's since they are not architecture specific. [...] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sean On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 10:28, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > Hi > > This did not work for me under Fedora2 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Sean Hogston > Sent: Wed 5/26/2004 9:29 AM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders > > Here is my config. This is on FC1 with the nvidia driver. > > Sean > > > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 18:14, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 17:47, Sean Hogston wrote: > > > what chipset do you have? Nvidia? > > > > Yes, I have Nvidia. > > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have a DELL Precision M60. > > > > > > > > When I choose a resolution 1920x1200, I end up with unwanted 0.5in. > > > > borders on the side. How can this be resolved? > > > > > > > > On the other hand if I choose 1920x1440 then the display is indeed full > > > > but my task bar is now off the bottom of the display. Does any one have > > > > a magic "XF86Config" file? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > > > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > > > > > > > > > > From zimhat at foou.net Wed May 26 21:25:42 2004 From: zimhat at foou.net (Law Horne) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:25:42 -0500 Subject: new kernel for testing Message-ID: <1085606742.2712.9.camel@Basanizo> > Well my networking fails with the new kernel. This is what I get in > /var/log/boot.log : > > May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) > bytes of data. > May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: > May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: --- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics --- > May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 > errors, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms > May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: , pipe 4 > May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo ifup: failed. > May 25 20:53:40 Basanizo network: Bringing up interface eth0: failed > > > It works just fine in 2.6.5-1.358. Also I did not notice before but > but > mdmpd fails also, on both kernels apparently. But if I understand what > this is correctly I do not even need this running unless I have a raid > setup(which I don't) is that correct? Well in anycase if there is an > easy way to fix this I ddo not know it. > > Thanks Law Maybe I should mention my setup. I have a asus A7N8X nforce 2 MOBO. And the nic is of course the onboard nforce 2 ethernet controller. And I have a linksys router sitting between me and my cable modem. As I mentioned before it works fine on 2.6.5-1.358. Nothing special about the setup just generic settings for sharing a connection and networking with a windows machine. Law From ernesto at ornl.gov Wed May 26 21:43:23 2004 From: ernesto at ornl.gov (Williams Jr, Ernest L.) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:43:23 -0400 Subject: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders Message-ID: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0951@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> -----Original Message----- From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Sean Hogston Sent: Wed 5/26/2004 6:14 PM To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: RE: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders That is probably because FC2 uses x.org instead of XFree86. Look at the modelines and other settings in that config and modify yours to match. Im not sure if the Nvidia driver will run on FC2 as my test machine is not a Dell D800. I found out that the D800 I have only supports 1280x1024. That is I don't have a WUXGA LCD display. However, I do have a Precision M60 that supports 1920x1200. I have only been able to get the M60 to 1680x1050. Do I really need to specify modelines with version X in Fedora 2? Sean On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 10:28, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > Hi > > This did not work for me under Fedora2 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Sean Hogston > Sent: Wed 5/26/2004 9:29 AM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: Re: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders > > Here is my config. This is on FC1 with the nvidia driver. > > Sean > > > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 18:14, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 17:47, Sean Hogston wrote: > > > what chipset do you have? Nvidia? > > > > Yes, I have Nvidia. > > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have a DELL Precision M60. > > > > > > > > When I choose a resolution 1920x1200, I end up with unwanted 0.5in. > > > > borders on the side. How can this be resolved? > > > > > > > > On the other hand if I choose 1920x1440 then the display is indeed full > > > > but my task bar is now off the bottom of the display. Does any one have > > > > a magic "XF86Config" file? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > > > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > > > > > > > > > > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From mrsam at courier-mta.com Wed May 26 22:52:32 2004 From: mrsam at courier-mta.com (Sam Varshavchik) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:52:32 -0400 Subject: megaraid 2 drivers for FC2? References: <035101c44350$9217bb50$b100000a@M145Primary> Message-ID: Eric Wood writes: > Has anyone got a LSI 320 raid card going with FC 2 final or beta? I just > tried installing FC2 final and it doesn't detect the controller with the > megaraid driver. I was expecting to see a megaraid2 in the list - but not > there. FC1 installed fine with the old megaraid driver. Now FC2 doesn't > seem to even see the controller at all even with the same megaraid driver. > Perhaps someone knows of a supplement driver disk? I had to dump this card back when I installed FC1 a couple of months ago, despite its claims of Linux compatibility. Although it would appear to initialize fine at first, any kind of disk activity resulted in random claims of random disk errors, on a randomly-chosen disk from a RAID-1 pair, resulting in a single disk operation from that point on. The alleged errors were utterly bogus. The disks are fine (and are still fine today). An e-mailed inquiry to LSI's tech support resulted in a bunch of goober replies, which didn't exactly instill a lot of confidence in me. That was the end of the story. Too bad. It looked like a nice card. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tibbs at math.uh.edu Thu May 27 00:10:42 2004 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 26 May 2004 19:10:42 -0500 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> Message-ID: >>>>> "sv" == seth vidal writes: sv> ugh - kernel-source changed ARCH?! How did that happen? Perhaps RPM can now build subpackages with architectures different than that of the main package. It's certainly been a wishlist item for ages. - J< From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu May 27 00:32:49 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:32:49 -0400 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> Message-ID: <604aa791040526173243e3fc60@mail.gmail.com> On 26 May 2004 19:10:42 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > >>>>> "sv" == seth vidal writes: > > sv> ugh - kernel-source changed ARCH?! How did that happen? > > Perhaps RPM can now build subpackages with architectures different > than that of the main package. It's certainly been a wishlist item > for ages. Doubtful...but initial testing seems to suggest that up2date also seems to having a problem dealing gracefully with the fact that kernel-source has changed to noarch. tsk tsk tsk. Anyone pointed apt at the updates-testing tree yet to see what it does? -jef"How's that saying go...don't change a horse/arch in mid-stream/release"spaleta From ppokorny at penguincomputing.com Thu May 27 01:27:29 2004 From: ppokorny at penguincomputing.com (Philip Pokorny) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:27:29 -0700 Subject: megaraid 2 drivers for FC2? In-Reply-To: <20040527001055.5938E74A36@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040527001055.5938E74A36@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40B54401.8070504@penguincomputing.com> The 2.00.3 driver is hideously out of date which is probably why it didn't detect your card. Get at least 2.10.3 or later. Unfortunately, they might not have driver disks for FC2 yet. Up until just recently (the last 3 months or so?) LSI was doing most of it's development in the 1.18 driver with versions up to 1.18j last time I looked. They recently merged that work into the 2.x driver. Be aware there are 64-bit bugs in the releases before 2.10.3 that affect Opterons with more than 4G of memory. :v) Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Eric Wood writes: > >>> Has anyone got a LSI 320 raid card going with FC 2 final or beta? I just >>> tried installing FC2 final and it doesn't detect the controller with the >>> megaraid driver. I was expecting to see a megaraid2 in the list - but not >>> there. FC1 installed fine with the old megaraid driver. Now FC2 doesn't >>> seem to even see the controller at all even with the same megaraid driver. >>> Perhaps someone knows of a supplement driver disk? From kellyjf at yahoo.com Thu May 27 01:33:42 2004 From: kellyjf at yahoo.com (John Kelly) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Error messages on new version of autofs on FC2 Message-ID: <20040527013342.52295.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> David Pullman wrote: >>We have a several indirect NIS maps that support >>Fedora, RedHat 9, SGI >>and Sun workstations, including a homedirs map. The >>homedirs mounts a ........... We see this problem as well..one of our developers believes he has isolated it to the util-linux package---quoting him: Somebody added a few nfs patches to the util-linux rpm. One of them, util-linux-2.11z-01-nfs.patch, parses nfs options passed to the mount command. It does not like the noquota option. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Thu May 27 04:00:34 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:00:34 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085630434.5292.14.camel@tabb1.tabb> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > purposes. Enjoy! Seem to have encountered an evolution memory leak. Evolution "froze" while editing a message, X became VERY sluggish. Top showed high memory/swap usage. Disk activity was (naturally) very high. Did killev and restarted. Recovered message and is now working OK. No excessive swap/memory consumed. Don't know how to reproduce reliably. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124512 Phil From P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org Thu May 27 04:34:12 2004 From: P.R.Schaffner at IEEE.org (Phil Schaffner) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:34:12 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085632452.5292.23.camel@tabb1.tabb> This version seems to have fixed Bug 121349 - messages that previously crashed evolution now display. Check it out if you have seen that behavior. Phil From tsiddharth at kodiaknetworks.com Thu May 27 06:40:58 2004 From: tsiddharth at kodiaknetworks.com (Siddharth Toshniwal) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:10:58 +0530 Subject: some issues with nautilus MIME associations and thumbnails In-Reply-To: <40B48A5B.1060302@rogers.com> References: <1085572595.3510.209.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> <40B48A5B.1060302@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1085640058.3510.274.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> Hi Dwaine, all An update on these issues. Got some help from a friend. The thumbnail generation was not working due to the JFIF standard not being processed for some reason (my libjpeg version is libjpeg-6b-31.1, do I need an update?). Ran the 'file' command on an image for which a thumbnail was generated properly and one for which it was not. The output for the proper image (file1) was: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01, resolution (DPI), 144 x 144 and for the one without the thumbnail (file2) was: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.02, resolution (DPI), 144 x 144 Opened the file2.jpg in gimp and saved it without any changes. This changes the JFIF standard to the 'desired' one (1.01) and thumbnail is shown :) So there is a workaround for this issue at least. The MIME association still has me stumped. Anyone with clues as to what to do for that?? thanks, Siddharth. On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 17:45, Dwaine Garden wrote: > Siddharth Toshniwal wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >Have been facing a few issues with nautilus for the last > >couple of days. I've upgraded my system (which was originally > >RedHat 9) using up2date using the rawhide channel, so I > >guess I may have some packages which are not working well > >with each other. I don't know exactly which upgrade has > >resulted in these problems, so I'm posting for help if > >anyone has solved similar issues. The details are as follows: > > > >* Nautilus does not show thumbnails for some of the images > > within one directory while for others (which have the same > > extension) it does so properly. Opening the images with > > either eog or gimp does not report any errors. > > > >* I seem to have some problem with *all* my MIME associations > > (including the ones that are configured by default usually) > > Even if I associate them manually (.jpg to eog, .doc to > > star-office and so on), nautilus does not open the same > > when I double click in the file window. I have to open > > any documents using the terminal only :( > > The file association is shown correctly the next time I > > double click the file and click on 'Associate', but > > somehow the association does not work on its own. > > > >The packages that I have installed are: > > nautilus-media-0.8.0-2 > > nautilus-2.6.0-5 > > shared-mime-info-0.14-1 > > gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-4 > > gnome-vfs2-2.6.0-8 > > > >I read up the following article but it is not clear to > >me yet as to what I've done incorrectly: > >http://www.amitysolutions.com.au/documents/GnomeFiles-technote.pdf > > > >thanks, > >Siddharth. > > > > > > > I have the same problem with Konqueror. No thumbnails previews. > > Dwaine. From pnasrat at redhat.com Thu May 27 07:56:32 2004 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 03:56:32 -0400 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> Message-ID: <20040527075632.GB6672@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 07:10:42PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "sv" == seth vidal writes: > > sv> ugh - kernel-source changed ARCH?! How did that happen? > > Perhaps RPM can now build subpackages with architectures different > than that of the main package. It's certainly been a wishlist item > for ages. Nope - the kernel rpm has to be built with multiple targets anyway for the multiple archs noarch is just another conditional target. This is a good thing - on ppc atm I had 3 soon to be 4 identical kernel-source packages. As for 2.6 we ship the whole tree anyway making it noarch is a good thing. Paul From twaugh at redhat.com Thu May 27 08:10:52 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:10:52 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: cups-1.1.20-11 Message-ID: <20040527081052.GB707@redhat.com> Please try out these updated packages. If you find a problem report it as a comment on this bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124523 If there are no problems by Thursday June 3rd I'll make this an official update. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-144 2004-05-27 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : cups Version : 1.1.20 Release : 11 Summary : Common Unix Printing System Description : The Common UNIX Printing System provides a portable printing layer for UNIX? operating systems. It has been developed by Easy Software Products to promote a standard printing solution for all UNIX vendors and users. CUPS provides the System V and Berkeley command-line interfaces. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: Several problems have been fixed, including: o some HTTP handling bugs o failure to use encryption when required o start-up appears to succeed even when it fails --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed May 26 2004 Tim Waugh 1:1.1.20-11 - Build requires make >= 3.80 (bug #124472). * Wed May 26 2004 Tim Waugh 1:1.1.20-10 - Finish fix for cupsenable/cupsdisable (bug #102490). - Fix MaxLogSize setting (bug #123003). * Tue May 25 2004 Tim Waugh 1:1.1.20-9 - Apply patches from CVS (authtype) to fix STR #434, STR #611, and as a result STR #719. This fixes several problems including those noted in bug #114999. * Mon May 24 2004 Tim Waugh - Use upstream patch for exit code fix for bug #110135 [STR 718]. * Wed May 19 2004 Tim Waugh 1:1.1.20-8 - If cupsd fails to start, make it exit with an appropriate code so that initlog notifies the user (bug #110135). * Thu May 13 2004 Tim Waugh - Fix cups/util.c:get_num_sdests() to use encryption when it is necessary or requested (bug #118982). - Use upstream patch for the HTTP/1.1 Continue bug (from STR716). * Tue May 11 2004 Tim Waugh 1:1.1.20-7 - Fix non-conformance with HTTP/1.1, which caused failures when printing to a Xerox Phaser 8200 via IPP (bug #122352). - Make lppasswd(1) PIE. - Rotate logs within cupsd (instead of relying on logrotate) if we start to approach the filesystem file size limit (bug #123003). --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 8ab79f39ebcaac45e0c8746d23d09c09 SRPMS/cups-1.1.20-11.src.rpm 198e8e7c49ac81e6782ec1915e00ec37 i386/cups-1.1.20-11.i386.rpm 59cb62356cf1ad7115386bd005a4e1bc i386/cups-devel-1.1.20-11.i386.rpm 95236115dde1cb37442cb268a8e5f3f4 i386/cups-libs-1.1.20-11.i386.rpm 653d449bec46a143ba507311a7b08ab2 i386/debug/cups-debuginfo-1.1.20-11.i386.rpm 9972c542e058ebf6baf741ef24cc24fa x86_64/cups-1.1.20-11.x86_64.rpm d53bc896e5be5ed85a0328bd05324cf4 x86_64/cups-devel-1.1.20-11.x86_64.rpm c6e17010e7a7fde4e099841d58c023b3 x86_64/cups-libs-1.1.20-11.x86_64.rpm cbf5c1a10cf462cbe3bb42126fdb5304 x86_64/debug/cups-debuginfo-1.1.20-11.x86_64.rpm 95236115dde1cb37442cb268a8e5f3f4 x86_64/cups-libs-1.1.20-11.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nbc at aikisoft.com Thu May 27 10:33:48 2004 From: nbc at aikisoft.com (Neil B. Cohen) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 06:33:48 -0400 Subject: Scanner problem - solved... Message-ID: <1085654028.5136.1.camel@luna.aikisoft.com> FYI, I asked about a scanner problem a couple of days ago. My PSC 2175 printed and scanned with Fedora Test 3 when I bought it, and would print under the Fedora 2 release, but did not recognize the scanner. Several people responded with suggestions about permissions, but I found the answer at LinuxQuestions.org (Thanks!). It is necessary to run the command /etc/init.d/hpoj setup to configure the scanner properly. I must have done that with the previous Fedora release and then forgot about it... After running that command, then xsane or kooka do detect the scanner. Thanks to those who responded! And I will move future questions to the fedora-list mailing list since I'm now working with the official release... nbc From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu May 27 10:41:34 2004 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 06:41:34 -0400 Subject: some issues with nautilus MIME associations and thumbnails In-Reply-To: <1085640058.3510.274.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> References: <1085572595.3510.209.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> <40B48A5B.1060302@rogers.com> <1085640058.3510.274.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> Message-ID: <40B5C5DE.3060805@rogers.com> Siddharth Toshniwal wrote: >Hi Dwaine, all > >An update on these issues. Got some help from a friend. >The thumbnail generation was not working due to the JFIF >standard not being processed for some reason (my libjpeg >version is libjpeg-6b-31.1, do I need an update?). > >Ran the 'file' command on an image for which a thumbnail >was generated properly and one for which it was not. > >The output for the proper image (file1) was: >JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01, resolution (DPI), 144 x 144 > >and for the one without the thumbnail (file2) was: >JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.02, resolution (DPI), 144 x 144 > >Opened the file2.jpg in gimp and saved it without any >changes. This changes the JFIF standard to the 'desired' >one (1.01) and thumbnail is shown :) > >So there is a workaround for this issue at least. The MIME >association still has me stumped. Anyone with clues as to >what to do for that?? > >thanks, >Siddharth. > > > > >On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 17:45, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > >>Siddharth Toshniwal wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>Have been facing a few issues with nautilus for the last >>>couple of days. I've upgraded my system (which was originally >>>RedHat 9) using up2date using the rawhide channel, so I >>>guess I may have some packages which are not working well >>>with each other. I don't know exactly which upgrade has >>>resulted in these problems, so I'm posting for help if >>>anyone has solved similar issues. The details are as follows: >>> >>>* Nautilus does not show thumbnails for some of the images >>> within one directory while for others (which have the same >>> extension) it does so properly. Opening the images with >>> either eog or gimp does not report any errors. >>> >>>* I seem to have some problem with *all* my MIME associations >>> (including the ones that are configured by default usually) >>> Even if I associate them manually (.jpg to eog, .doc to >>> star-office and so on), nautilus does not open the same >>> when I double click in the file window. I have to open >>> any documents using the terminal only :( >>> The file association is shown correctly the next time I >>> double click the file and click on 'Associate', but >>> somehow the association does not work on its own. >>> >>>The packages that I have installed are: >>> nautilus-media-0.8.0-2 >>> nautilus-2.6.0-5 >>> shared-mime-info-0.14-1 >>> gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-4 >>> gnome-vfs2-2.6.0-8 >>> >>>I read up the following article but it is not clear to >>>me yet as to what I've done incorrectly: >>>http://www.amitysolutions.com.au/documents/GnomeFiles-technote.pdf >>> >>>thanks, >>>Siddharth. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I have the same problem with Konqueror. No thumbnails previews. >> >>Dwaine. >> >> > > > > > I can replicate the same problem here. The thumbnails in gimp do not work. Re-saving the jpeg file did produce the thumbnail in gimp. The preview function in konqueror does not work either. And scanning in kooka in jpeg format does not produce any output. I did the same test with xsane and it worked just fine. This is interesting.... Needs further investigation. Dwaine. From feliciano.matias at free.fr Thu May 27 12:18:44 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:18:44 +0200 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: <20040527075632.GB6672@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> <20040527075632.GB6672@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085660323.951.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le jeu 27/05/2004 ? 09:56, Paul Nasrat a ?crit : > On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 07:10:42PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > >>>>> "sv" == seth vidal writes: > > > > sv> ugh - kernel-source changed ARCH?! How did that happen? > > > > Perhaps RPM can now build subpackages with architectures different > > than that of the main package. It's certainly been a wishlist item > > for ages. > > Nope - the kernel rpm has to be built with multiple targets anyway for the multiple archs noarch is just another conditional target. > > This is a good thing - on ppc atm I had 3 soon to be 4 identical kernel-source > packages. As for 2.6 we ship the whole tree anyway making it noarch is a good thing. > It's good thing for FC3. But switching from kernel-source.i386 to kernel-source.noarch during FC2 break updates with yum (This is enforced with the default configuration of yum (exactarch=1)). OK, kernel-source is not dedicated to newbi. > Paul > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From eric at interplas.com Thu May 27 14:19:37 2004 From: eric at interplas.com (Eric Wood) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:19:37 -0400 Subject: megaraid 2 drivers for FC2? References: <20040527001055.5938E74A36@hormel.redhat.com> <40B54401.8070504@penguincomputing.com> Message-ID: <042301c443f5$a4a51fb0$b100000a@M145Primary> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Pokorny" > The 2.00.3 driver is hideously out of date which is probably why it > didn't detect your card. Get at least 2.10.3 or later. Unfortunately, > they might not have driver disks for FC2 yet. Up until just recently > (the last 3 months or so?) LSI was doing most of it's development in the > 1.18 driver with versions up to 1.18j last time I looked. They recently > merged that work into the 2.x driver. Be aware there are 64-bit bugs in > the releases before 2.10.3 that affect Opterons with more than 4G of > memory. :v) Sam Varshavchik wrote: But I can't install FC2 to even compile a new driver. 2.00.3 that comes with the FC2 installer doesn't detect the drives. Is there a howto on making a driver supplement disk with 2.10.3 that'll work with FC2 installer? The Thanks for the info. I'm chatting with LSI now about this issue. They seem to be interested in FC2 although it's not a priority for them - they probably didn't try one FC2 beta just to see if the megaraid would work or promote a more recent version of the driver. They really dropped the ball IMHO. Well, I didn't pay too much for this 320-1 card..... so I may have to get an Adaptec. -Eric Wood From eric at interplas.com Thu May 27 15:00:27 2004 From: eric at interplas.com (Eric Wood) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:00:27 -0400 Subject: megaraid 2 drivers for FC2? References: <20040527001055.5938E74A36@hormel.redhat.com><40B54401.8070504@penguincomputing.com> <042301c443f5$a4a51fb0$b100000a@M145Primary> Message-ID: <048f01c443fb$58740fb0$b100000a@M145Primary> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Wood" > Is there a howto on making a > driver supplement disk with 2.10.3 that'll work with FC2 installer? I found this... http://people.redhat.com/dledford/ So I'll attempt to make a new megaraid driver disk. -eric wood From philip at balister.org Thu May 27 15:15:09 2004 From: philip at balister.org (Philip Balister) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:15:09 -0400 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085670909.2807.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> I tried the 391 kernel and still have an immediate resume after an attempt at S3 on a Dell D600. This is from dmesg: PM: Preparing system for suspend Stopping tasks: ==================================================================================================| PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.7 to 64 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 Restarting tasks... done agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode [drm] Loading R200 Microcode Mind you, in some sense this is an improvement over earlier attempts at S3, which led to hanging during resume :) Philip On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 14:47, Satish Balay wrote: > ACPI with the new kernel doesn't work on IBM ThinkPad T40. With > > echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep > > the machine briefly attempts to go to sleep and then comes back. > > The relavent info from the log > > ----- > 383 > ----- > PM: Preparing system for suspend > Stopping tasks: ==========================================================================| > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.7 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 > PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:00.0 (0000 -> 0002) > PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:00.1 (0000 -> 0002) > PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:01.0 (0000 -> 0003) > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:01.0 to 64 > Restarting tasks... done > agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode > [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex > > ---------- > 358 - release kernel that works > --------- > PM: Preparing system for suspend > Stopping tasks: ============================================================================| > PM: Entering state. > Back to C! > zapping low mappings. > PM: Finishing up. > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.0 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.1 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.2 to 64 > PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 > ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: HC died; cleaning up > blk: queue 39ed4e00, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) > Restarting tasks...<6>input: PS/2 Generic Mouse on isa0060/serio1 > done > agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode > [drm] Loading R200 Microcode > e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex > > ----------------------- > > Will log the complete dmesg info in bugzilla. > > Satish > > > > On Tue, 25 May 2004, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've built a new kernel (2.6.6-1.383) for testing; and it just got uploaded > > to the testing area on the fedora download site. > > Highlights include > > * Update to 2.6.7-rc1 > > * A patch to improve suspend/resume to ram behavior > > (If your laptop failed before, please test with this) > > * Major USB update > > * The VIA C3 bug is fixed > > * Minor ACPI update > > > > The idea is to do a final update kernel in a week or two, which will include > > some more bugfixes and hopefully the 2.6.7-final kernel. However it's still > > useful to get this "inbetween point" tested to see if we're going in the > > right direction. > > > > Greetings, > > Arjan van de Ven > From pchez at mail.cyberneme.com Thu May 27 16:48:46 2004 From: pchez at mail.cyberneme.com (Poonchezhian P.) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:18:46 +0530 Subject: Highlighting in Abiword doesnot work ...... Message-ID: <200405272218.47544.pchez@mail.cyberneme.com> Hi, When I try to highlight any text in Abiword, it doesnt work. I'm using KDE. It works with GNOME environment. This issue was there in FC1 too. Is there any way to sort it out ??? -- Poonchezhian P. From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Thu May 27 18:24:13 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:24:13 -0400 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: <1085660323.951.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> <20040527075632.GB6672@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1085660323.951.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1085682238.3389.3.camel@tuxtop> On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 08:18, Matias Feliciano wrote: [snip] > It's good thing for FC3. But switching from kernel-source.i386 to > kernel-source.noarch during FC2 break updates with yum (This is enforced > with the default configuration of yum (exactarch=1)). I don't know what the big deal is, here. Who's to say that a fix can't be put out for yum, first? It would be probably be a lot simpler than maintaining both platform specific and noarch cvs branches of the kernel spec file. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From joern.hassler at gmx.de Thu May 27 19:50:20 2004 From: joern.hassler at gmx.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Hassler) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:50:20 +0200 Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> Message-ID: <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> Sorry for spaming the list with problems like this, but i have a strange problem with firefox and fc2. After installing fc2 (i had fc2test3 before with no probs at all) i have a problem launching e.g. firefox as normal user. i have no problems launching it as root but as user. I tried to install firefox via yum as well as from sources and always had the same problem - there is no errormessage or anything else. Even removing the .phoenix-dir from home-dir doesn't change anything. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks, J?rn From h.mayer at inode.at Thu May 27 19:53:39 2004 From: h.mayer at inode.at (h.mayer at inode.at) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:53:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: ITE8212 RAID Controller - unable to allocate IRQ Message-ID: <213.229.63.159.1085687619.wm@webmail.inode.at> [cross-post! sorry, but the fedora-list has so many messages, it's almost impossible to follow any thread] Hi all! I just recompiled kernel 2.6.6-1.391 (Arjan) with the ITE8212 driver as module. Everything went as expected and the kernel installed fine. But when I modprobe: # modprobe -f iteraid FATAL: Error inserting iteraid (/lib/modules/2.6.6-1.391custom/kernel/drivers/scsi/iteraid.ko): No such device The kernel says this: # dmesg [...] Found Controller: IT8212 UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller iteraid_init: unable to allocate IRQ for IT8212 UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller [...] What can be done to set another IRQ ? How can I check if there are any IRQ conflicts ? (all devices seem to perform fine) Thanks a lot, Hannes. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Thu May 27 20:03:31 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> Message-ID: <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> J?rn Hassler said: > Sorry for spaming the list with problems like this, but i have > a strange problem with firefox and fc2. You are using a stable release of Fedora, please ask your questions on the fedora-list. -- William Hooper From jim at jbsys.com Thu May 27 20:13:35 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (Jim B) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:13:35 -0700 Subject: FC2 - RH9 dual boot problem Message-ID: <004f01c44427$1729df90$0a01a8c0@jbsys.com> I have a system with FC2 on /dev/hda6 (/) and /dev/hda1 (/boot). I also have a RedHat 9 system installed on /dev/hda8 (/) and I dual boot the system. The disk also has Win2K and WinXP. The FC2 is a fresh install over a FC2 Test 3 system as I used this system for testing of the FC2 test releases. Somewhere along the line during the FC2 testing, the RedHat system can no longer be booted. I get the following messages: ... ... XT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. attempt to access beyond end of device 03:08: rw=0, want 1219858868, limit=36893241 attempt to access beyond end of device 03:08: rw=0, want 1219858868, limit=36893241 Kernel panic: No Init found. I think this started after I did a "fixfile" on a FC2T2 system and had the RedHat partition mounted and it was "fixed" too. I am really not sure when the partition became unbootable. The limit value in the message is the size of the partition as reported by fdisk. I also get alignment errors reported from sfdisk. The same errors that are reported with other users who have dual boot problems. I even tried the fix suggested for the dual boot problem, but it had no affect. I do not have a problem with either windows systems, it is just with RedHat 9. The system is a Tyan 2460 with two Athlon 1200 cpus and 120 GB disk. Any idea of now I can get this system bootable? I can read/write it just fine from FC2. It just won't boot. Jim From jim at jbsys.com Thu May 27 20:13:35 2004 From: jim at jbsys.com (Jim B) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:13:35 -0700 Subject: FC2 - RH9 dual boot problem Message-ID: <004f01c44427$1729df90$0a01a8c0@jbsys.com> I have a system with FC2 on /dev/hda6 (/) and /dev/hda1 (/boot). I also have a RedHat 9 system installed on /dev/hda8 (/) and I dual boot the system. The disk also has Win2K and WinXP. The FC2 is a fresh install over a FC2 Test 3 system as I used this system for testing of the FC2 test releases. Somewhere along the line during the FC2 testing, the RedHat system can no longer be booted. I get the following messages: ... ... XT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. attempt to access beyond end of device 03:08: rw=0, want 1219858868, limit=36893241 attempt to access beyond end of device 03:08: rw=0, want 1219858868, limit=36893241 Kernel panic: No Init found. I think this started after I did a "fixfile" on a FC2T2 system and had the RedHat partition mounted and it was "fixed" too. I am really not sure when the partition became unbootable. The limit value in the message is the size of the partition as reported by fdisk. I also get alignment errors reported from sfdisk. The same errors that are reported with other users who have dual boot problems. I even tried the fix suggested for the dual boot problem, but it had no affect. I do not have a problem with either windows systems, it is just with RedHat 9. The system is a Tyan 2460 with two Athlon 1200 cpus and 120 GB disk. Any idea of now I can get this system bootable? I can read/write it just fine from FC2. It just won't boot. Jim -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list From rshewan at lio.aacisd.com Thu May 27 20:45:32 2004 From: rshewan at lio.aacisd.com (Rob Shewan) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:45:32 -0400 Subject: gdb looks for debug versions of libraries Message-ID: <40B6536C.4050902@lio.aacisd.com> I am attempting to use KDevelop under FC2T3. I have googled this to death, examined release notes and so on. I did find a Redhat note that warns about the lack of debug libraries but I guess I'm in denial regarding the requirement to get the source for each of the libraries and build debug versions. gdb on the run command attempts to locate libraries built with debug information (see attached). gdb executed from the command line produces the error output and the human (me) ignores it and the debug session continues. KDbg ignores the errors as well but, KDevelop does not. 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Name: not available URL: From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 28 00:35:31 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PCMCIA In-Reply-To: <200405272348.i4RNlxw20454@mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200405272348.i4RNlxw20454@mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <64438.65.40.133.115.1085704531.squirrel@65.40.133.115> sumonish1 at optusnet.com.au said: > > Problem with PCMCIA. > > Only way to get it to work is to do modprobe Yenta_socket then Service > pcmcia > restart then service network restart https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121742 -- William Hooper From a.t.meinen at chello.nl Fri May 28 01:27:54 2004 From: a.t.meinen at chello.nl (Tino Meinen) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 03:27:54 +0200 Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Message-ID: <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> Op do 27-05-2004, om 22:03 schreef William Hooper: > J?rn Hassler said: > > Sorry for spaming the list with problems like this, but i have > > a strange problem with firefox and fc2. > > You are using a stable release of Fedora, please ask your questions on the > fedora-list. Hmm, why should he? he's having a problem with firefox *and* fc2. It's not helpful if the fc-list would start referring to firefox and vice-versa. You would get nowhere. Jorn: seeing that root is able to run firefox without problems, it indicates that it is almost certainly a permissions problem and not a problem in the firefox application. Firefox apparently wants to write somewhere it can't or read somewhere it can't. Try to run firefox from the commandline. That will probably give you an indication of where the problem lies. Tino Meinen From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 28 01:47:35 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> Message-ID: <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> Tino Meinen said: > Op do 27-05-2004, om 22:03 schreef William Hooper: >> J?rn Hassler said: >> > Sorry for spaming the list with problems like this, but i have >> > a strange problem with firefox and fc2. >> >> You are using a stable release of Fedora, please ask your questions on >> the >> fedora-list. > Hmm, why should he? he's having a problem with firefox *and* fc2. > It's not helpful if the fc-list would start referring to firefox and > vice-versa. > You would get nowhere. OK, I'll play... how does it relate to Fedora Test releases? He's using FC2 *a stable release*, not a test release, not an updates-testing package... -- William Hooper From vslim at insightbb.com Fri May 28 01:59:58 2004 From: vslim at insightbb.com (slim) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:59:58 -0500 Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> Message-ID: <1085709598.5724.2.camel@shovelhead> On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 20:47, William Hooper wrote: > Tino Meinen said: > > Op do 27-05-2004, om 22:03 schreef William Hooper: > >> J?rn Hassler said: > >> > Sorry for spaming the list with problems like this, but i have > >> > a strange problem with firefox and fc2. > >> > >> You are using a stable release of Fedora, please ask your questions on > >> the > >> fedora-list. > > Hmm, why should he? he's having a problem with firefox *and* fc2. > > It's not helpful if the fc-list would start referring to firefox and > > vice-versa. > > You would get nowhere. > > OK, I'll play... how does it relate to Fedora Test releases? He's using > FC2 *a stable release*, not a test release, not an updates-testing > package... > > -- > William Hooper > Being firefox is not a stable release with fc2 questions for it should go here? I thought I read on fedora-list that this was so. From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 28 02:12:47 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <1085709598.5724.2.camel@shovelhead> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> <1085709598.5724.2.camel@shovelhead> Message-ID: <65188.65.40.133.115.1085710367.squirrel@65.40.133.115> slim said: >> OK, I'll play... how does it relate to Fedora Test releases? He's using >> FC2 *a stable release*, not a test release, not an updates-testing >> package... >> >> -- >> William Hooper >> > Being firefox is not a stable release with fc2 questions for it should > go here? I thought I read on fedora-list that this was so. Firefox isn't part of Fedora Core at all. This is a) a FC2 question (ie fedora-list), b) a question for the third party repo that you got firefox from, or c) a question for a firefox list. None of these are the fedora-test-list. -- William Hooper From rhally at mindspring.com Fri May 28 03:03:53 2004 From: rhally at mindspring.com (Richard Hally) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:03:53 -0400 Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> Message-ID: <40B6AC19.4060906@mindspring.com> William Hooper wrote: > Tino Meinen said: > >>Op do 27-05-2004, om 22:03 schreef William Hooper: >> >>>J?rn Hassler said: >>> >>>>Sorry for spaming the list with problems like this, but i have >>>>a strange problem with firefox and fc2. >>> >>>You are using a stable release of Fedora, please ask your questions on >>>the >>>fedora-list. >> >>Hmm, why should he? he's having a problem with firefox *and* fc2. >>It's not helpful if the fc-list would start referring to firefox and >>vice-versa. >>You would get nowhere. > > > OK, I'll play... how does it relate to Fedora Test releases? He's using > FC2 *a stable release*, not a test release, not an updates-testing > package... > "For testers of Fedora Core development releases ". Perhaps if you consider it feedback to "testers" of things that did not get discovered by their testing it may allow those testers to improve the testing process? RH From joern.hassler at gmx.de Fri May 28 04:54:54 2004 From: joern.hassler at gmx.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Hassler) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 06:54:54 +0200 Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <65188.65.40.133.115.1085710367.squirrel@65.40.133.115> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> <1085709598.5724.2.camel@shovelhead> <65188.65.40.133.115.1085710367.squirrel@65.40.133.115> Message-ID: <1085720094.7144.6.camel@flaneur> Ok, next time i will post my questions to the other list. I just thought this list might be interested in it because the firefox isnt the only problem i have. With FC2T3 i also had no problem at all starting openoffice and after installing the stable-release getstyle-gnome hangs up everytime i try to start oo. Even starting via console throws no errors or messages it just hangs while showing the startupwindow. Ok, but i think this is also for the other list... On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 04:12, William Hooper wrote: > slim said: > > >> OK, I'll play... how does it relate to Fedora Test releases? He's using > >> FC2 *a stable release*, not a test release, not an updates-testing > >> package... > >> > >> -- > >> William Hooper > >> > > Being firefox is not a stable release with fc2 questions for it should > > go here? I thought I read on fedora-list that this was so. > > Firefox isn't part of Fedora Core at all. This is a) a FC2 question (ie > fedora-list), b) a question for the third party repo that you got firefox > from, or c) a question for a firefox list. None of these are the > fedora-test-list. > > -- > William Hooper -- J?rn Hassler From warren at togami.com Fri May 28 05:45:30 2004 From: warren at togami.com (Warren Togami) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:45:30 -1000 Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <65188.65.40.133.115.1085710367.squirrel@65.40.133.115> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> <1085709598.5724.2.camel@shovelhead> <65188.65.40.133.115.1085710367.squirrel@65.40.133.115> Message-ID: <40B6D1FA.5010409@togami.com> William Hooper wrote: > > > Firefox isn't part of Fedora Core at all. This is a) a FC2 question (ie > fedora-list), b) a question for the third party repo that you got firefox > from, or c) a question for a firefox list. None of these are the > fedora-test-list. > We really don't need to take a hard line of enforcement between fedora-list and fedora-test-list. To me the traffic on both lists are too confusingly similar. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From tsiddharth at kodiaknetworks.com Fri May 28 06:16:26 2004 From: tsiddharth at kodiaknetworks.com (Siddharth Toshniwal) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:46:26 +0530 Subject: MIME association woes, XDG_DATA_DIRS and so on (was: some issues with nautilus MIME associations and thumbnails) In-Reply-To: <40B5C5DE.3060805@rogers.com> References: <1085572595.3510.209.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> <40B48A5B.1060302@rogers.com> <1085640058.3510.274.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> <40B5C5DE.3060805@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1085724986.13299.17.camel@bliss.kodiaknetworks.com> Hi all, No replies yet on this thread.... no one faced a similar issue while doing a periodic RPM upgrade? I've dug some more into this issue and found another thread which may be related to my problems, but no answers to that thread as well. (Ref: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-vfs-list/2004-January/msg00021.html) Read up the shared-mime-info spec and some other posts on the gnomesupport.org site. With that I could make out that I needed to export XDG_DATA_DIRS for some progress. I did so in my .bashrc and .bash_profile (I guess I need have put it in only one of them ideally, but anyways). After that my nautilus is showing PDF thumbnails (which it was not earlier, so that's a nice discovery ;) but the file associations are still not working (!?!??) Now, shared-mime-info spec says that it does not tell which application should be preferred to open which MIME type. It may at most give a list of applications that 'can open' this MIME type. So, where does the preference information reside?? Should I export some other environment variables (XDG_DATA_HOME and so on) and if so, where? Or am I missing some package that I need to install? To repeat, my problems currently are: * Help files open in gedit even if I run yelp from the terminal after exporting the XDG_DATA_DIRS variable. * No file association works on its own and double-clicking any file-type in nautilus just shows an error popup with the "no action associated" text. Any help will be most welcome! :) cheers, Siddharth. On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 16:11, Dwaine Garden wrote: > Siddharth Toshniwal wrote: > > >Hi Dwaine, all > > > >An update on these issues. Got some help from a friend. > >The thumbnail generation was not working due to the JFIF > >standard not being processed for some reason (my libjpeg > >version is libjpeg-6b-31.1, do I need an update?). > > > >Ran the 'file' command on an image for which a thumbnail > >was generated properly and one for which it was not. > > > >The output for the proper image (file1) was: > >JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01, resolution (DPI), 144 x 144 > > > >and for the one without the thumbnail (file2) was: > >JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.02, resolution (DPI), 144 x 144 > > > >Opened the file2.jpg in gimp and saved it without any > >changes. This changes the JFIF standard to the 'desired' > >one (1.01) and thumbnail is shown :) > > > >So there is a workaround for this issue at least. The MIME > >association still has me stumped. Anyone with clues as to > >what to do for that?? > > > >thanks, > >Siddharth. > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 17:45, Dwaine Garden wrote: > > > > > >>Siddharth Toshniwal wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi all, > >>> > >>>Have been facing a few issues with nautilus for the last > >>>couple of days. I've upgraded my system (which was originally > >>>RedHat 9) using up2date using the rawhide channel, so I > >>>guess I may have some packages which are not working well > >>>with each other. I don't know exactly which upgrade has > >>>resulted in these problems, so I'm posting for help if > >>>anyone has solved similar issues. The details are as follows: > >>> > >>>* Nautilus does not show thumbnails for some of the images > >>> within one directory while for others (which have the same > >>> extension) it does so properly. Opening the images with > >>> either eog or gimp does not report any errors. > >>> > >>>* I seem to have some problem with *all* my MIME associations > >>> (including the ones that are configured by default usually) > >>> Even if I associate them manually (.jpg to eog, .doc to > >>> star-office and so on), nautilus does not open the same > >>> when I double click in the file window. I have to open > >>> any documents using the terminal only :( > >>> The file association is shown correctly the next time I > >>> double click the file and click on 'Associate', but > >>> somehow the association does not work on its own. > >>> > >>>The packages that I have installed are: > >>> nautilus-media-0.8.0-2 > >>> nautilus-2.6.0-5 > >>> shared-mime-info-0.14-1 > >>> gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-4 > >>> gnome-vfs2-2.6.0-8 > >>> > >>>I read up the following article but it is not clear to > >>>me yet as to what I've done incorrectly: > >>>http://www.amitysolutions.com.au/documents/GnomeFiles-technote.pdf > >>> > >>>thanks, > >>>Siddharth. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I have the same problem with Konqueror. No thumbnails previews. > >> > >>Dwaine. > >> > > > > > I can replicate the same problem here. The thumbnails in gimp do not > work. Re-saving the jpeg file did produce the thumbnail in gimp. > > The preview function in konqueror does not work either. And scanning > in kooka in jpeg format does not produce any output. I did the same > test with xsane and it worked just fine. > > This is interesting.... Needs further investigation. > > Dwaine. From ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us Fri May 28 07:25:20 2004 From: ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory Woodbury) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 03:25:20 -0400 Subject: Rawhide, Virtual PC (Mac OSX) don't get along? Message-ID: <20040528072520.GA15466@wolves.durham.nc.us> I'm trying to install rawhide on a Virtual PC under OSX 10.2.5(?) and am having significant problems with the networking. An FC1 VPC has no problems with using the network, but the boot.iso from rawhide won't use the emulated tulip card properly. It fails DHCP and NAMED and HTTP. Is anyone using this combination with rawhide, and how did you get it going? -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' U The Line Eater is a boojum! From netdemonz at yahoo.com Fri May 28 07:35:21 2004 From: netdemonz at yahoo.com (Brian Bober) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 00:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Problems with rndc and named, bind-9.2.3-13 Message-ID: <20040528073521.56314.qmail@web90107.mail.scd.yahoo.com> (/var/named/chroot/etc)> telnet localhost 953 Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused I think this is the issue... But port 953 is open on my firewall, it doesn't make sense. "Charlie Don" wrote: Hello all, I am having the traditional rndc problem. I have googled it and spent some time messing with rndc.conf, rndc.key and named.conf. I have used the rndc-keygen etc etc. What shall I do? Thanks, C. From netdemonz at yahoo.com Fri May 28 07:57:11 2004 From: netdemonz at yahoo.com (Brian Bober) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 00:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Problems with rndc and named, bind-9.2.3-13 Message-ID: <20040528075711.74212.qmail@web90110.mail.scd.yahoo.com> I figured it out. my /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key was empty and I needed to copy /etc/rndc.key to replace it (installed by the caching-nameserver package) Command: (/var/named/chroot/etc)> cp /etc/rndc.key . I hope that helps. If you have bind-chroot package installed, then the rndc.key named uses isn't in the /etc/rndc.key but is in /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key Thanks to anduin and DA-MAN on irc.redhat.com #fedora for assistance and many others. :-) From pmatilai at welho.com Fri May 28 09:56:13 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:56:13 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: <604aa791040526173243e3fc60@mail.gmail.com> References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> <604aa791040526173243e3fc60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 May 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 26 May 2004 19:10:42 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > > >>>>> "sv" == seth vidal writes: > > > > sv> ugh - kernel-source changed ARCH?! How did that happen? > > > > Perhaps RPM can now build subpackages with architectures different > > than that of the main package. It's certainly been a wishlist item > > for ages. > > Doubtful...but initial testing seems to suggest that up2date also > seems to having a problem dealing gracefully with the fact that > kernel-source has changed to noarch. > tsk tsk tsk. Anyone pointed apt at the updates-testing tree yet to see > what it does? Apt doesn't mind "downgrading" architecture so no problem there (just tested to be sure). - Panu - From nphilipp at redhat.com Fri May 28 11:12:26 2004 From: nphilipp at redhat.com (Nils Philippsen) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:12:26 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: gimp-2.0.1-5 Message-ID: <1085742746.6938.15.camel@gibraltar.stuttgart.redhat.com> This update is supposed to fix #124307 "missing help files" by spitting out a slightly more informative error message if gimp-help isn't installed. If no problems occur, this will go final on Friday, June 4th. If you want the particular error message to be translated into your favourite language(s), do the following: - install the source rpm -- 'rpm -i .../gimp-2.0.1-5-src-rpm' - unpack the sources, apply the patches -- 'rpmbuild -bp ...' - go to the gimp-2.0.1 directory - './configure' - 'make -C po-plug-ins update-po' - in po-plug-ins/.po, put in the translation for the msgid "Please install the gimp-help package to access GIMP help." Submit translations as unified diffs to the po files without translation to me by Friday, June 4th if you wish them to be included in the final update. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-145 2004-05-28 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : gimp Version : 2.0.1 Release : 5 Summary : The GNU Image Manipulation Program BETA Description : The GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) is a powerful image composition and editing program, which can be extremely useful for creating logos and other graphics for webpages. The GIMP has many of the tools and filters you would expect to find in similar commercial offerings, and some interesting extras as well. The GIMP provides a large image manipulation toolbox, including channel operations and layers, effects, sub-pixel imaging and anti-aliasing, and conversions, all with multi-level undo. The GIMP includes a scripting facility, but many of the included scripts rely on fonts that we cannot distribute. The GIMP FTP site has a package of fonts that you can install by yourself, which includes all the fonts needed to run the included scripts. Some of the fonts have unusual licensing requirements; all the licenses are documented in the package. Get ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/fonts/freefonts-0.10.tar.gz and ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/fonts/sharefonts-0.10.tar.gz if you are so inclined. Alternatively, choose fonts which exist on your system before running the scripts. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: This update is supposed to fix #124307 "missing help files" by spitting out a slightly more informative error message if gimp-help isn't installed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed May 26 2004 Nils Philippsen - add libjpeg-devel to BuildRequires (#121236) - spit out slightly more informative help message if gimp-help is missing (#124307) * Fri May 21 2004 Matthias Clasen - rebuild --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ e926e1d3974bd6fcefdd2b3b6a6b875f SRPMS/gimp-2.0.1-5.src.rpm 2f5acd64de2cab2bc406512157200a5c i386/gimp-2.0.1-5.i386.rpm 530ccf9e1e581b9eaad7f8f45248feae i386/gimp-devel-2.0.1-5.i386.rpm f5aa36c2b3514b624178abf41d5d2ba9 i386/debug/gimp-debuginfo-2.0.1-5.i386.rpm a2309b81297ef86441c3d1bd1a73d7e1 x86_64/gimp-2.0.1-5.x86_64.rpm bfeb299c9917eb5196b026c6967740dd x86_64/gimp-devel-2.0.1-5.x86_64.rpm bdec051780f0f0e307b12ac90bbd0c98 x86_64/debug/gimp-debuginfo-2.0.1-5.x86_64.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp at redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From skvidal at phy.duke.edu Fri May 28 12:16:40 2004 From: skvidal at phy.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:16:40 -0400 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> <604aa791040526173243e3fc60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1085746600.29946.4.camel@binkley> > Apt doesn't mind "downgrading" architecture so no problem there (just > tested to be sure). What does it do in the default configuration? Will it just downgrade a kernel from i686 to i586 if the i686 packages haven't synced yet? Or glibc from i686 to i386? That's the whole reason yum has the exactarch setting to keep that from happening. -sv From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 28 12:21:34 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <40B6D1FA.5010409@togami.com> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> <1085709598.5724.2.camel@shovelhead> <65188.65.40.133.115.1085710367.squirrel@65.40.133.115> <40B6D1FA.5010409@togami.com> Message-ID: <1674.12.29.16.103.1085746894.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Warren Togami said: > William Hooper wrote: >> >> >> Firefox isn't part of Fedora Core at all. This is a) a FC2 question (ie >> fedora-list), b) a question for the third party repo that you got >> firefox >> from, or c) a question for a firefox list. None of these are the >> fedora-test-list. >> > > We really don't need to take a hard line of enforcement between > fedora-list and fedora-test-list. To me the traffic on both lists are > too confusingly similar. Which would be why we need the division. You start getting updates-testing questions on Fedora-list, then the threads about "why aren't I getting updates" asking about the testing updates, etc. You get bug reports here about things already fixed in updates-testing (or better yet, things posted multiple times to the fedora-list). There is no sense in letting fedora-test-list sink to the signal-to-noise ratio of fedora-list. -- William Hooper From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri May 28 13:19:24 2004 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:19:24 -0400 Subject: FC2 and Firefox In-Reply-To: <1085720094.7144.6.camel@flaneur> References: <1084013248.3117.3.camel@honeur> <1084015198.4321.0.camel@callisto> <1085687419.3076.18.camel@flaneur> <4859.12.29.16.103.1085688211.squirrel@12.29.16.103> <1085703176.12651.21.camel@a141159.upc-a.chello.nl> <65030.65.40.133.115.1085708855.squirrel@65.40.133.115> <1085709598.5724.2.camel@shovelhead> <65188.65.40.133.115.1085710367.squirrel@65.40.133.115> <1085720094.7144.6.camel@flaneur> Message-ID: <604aa791040528061977e96819@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 28 May 2004 06:54:54 +0200, J?rn Hassler wrote: > > Ok, next time i will post my questions to the other list. I just thought > this list might be interested in it because the firefox isnt the only > problem i have. > With FC2T3 i also had no problem at all starting openoffice and after > installing the stable-release getstyle-gnome hangs up everytime i try to > start oo. Even starting via console throws no errors or messages it just > hangs while showing the startupwindow. One question comes to mind. Did you upgrade from fc2t3 to fc2 or did you do a fresh fc2 install? -jef"if I were a betting man....."spaleta From mike.lurk at sympatico.ca Fri May 28 14:02:40 2004 From: mike.lurk at sympatico.ca (Mike Lurk) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:02:40 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 Message-ID: <1085752960.6272.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> So far with this kernel (2.6.6-1.391) I haven't been able to do anything in openGL. As a matter of fact any of the 2.6.6 kernels haven't worked with openGL. The mobo is an Intel with a p3 600 and an integrated I810 video and the intel sound integrated as well. Any help would be appreciated. Mike From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri May 28 15:06:10 2004 From: Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov (Phil Schaffner) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:06:10 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085756770.11042.12.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Encountered non-working filters after upgrade to FC2 and evolution-1.5.8-2. Looks a lot like Bugzilla 122009 so added a comment there. After manually updating a couple of filters by re-specifying target directory and inspecting .evolution/mail/filters.xml found a workaround. Edit that file and change all occurrences of file:///home//evolution/local to email://local at local then delete all occurrences of /subfolders save, and restart Evolution. Select all files in the Inbox and type "Ctrl-Y" or select "Apply Filters" from the menu. Phil From pmatilai at welho.com Fri May 28 15:30:24 2004 From: pmatilai at welho.com (Panu Matilainen) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 18:30:24 +0300 Subject: Yum bug with kernel-source-2.6.6-1.383 (noarch) In-Reply-To: <1085746600.29946.4.camel@binkley> References: <1085604468.4831.251.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085605288.10344.79.camel@opus> <604aa791040526173243e3fc60@mail.gmail.com> <1085746600.29946.4.camel@binkley> Message-ID: <1085758224.10559.3.camel@weasel.net.laiskiainen.org> On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 15:16, seth vidal wrote: > > Apt doesn't mind "downgrading" architecture so no problem there (just > > tested to be sure). > > What does it do in the default configuration? Will it just downgrade a > kernel from i686 to i586 if the i686 packages haven't synced yet? Or > glibc from i686 to i386? Yup, that's exactly what'll happen. It's perfectly ok in some cases, and very bad in some others like the glibc or kernel cases (in a perfect world there would be no half-synced repositories but..) > That's the whole reason yum has the exactarch > setting to keep that from happening. Adding that to apt-rpm is on my todo-list, just haven't had time to do anything about it so far. - Panu - From concert at europe.com Fri May 28 15:31:07 2004 From: concert at europe.com (t l) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 07:31:07 -0800 Subject: libswigpy Message-ID: <20040528153107.8172A164002@ws1-15.us4.outblaze.com> The newest version of the swig package (swig-1.3.21-2) seems to have changed what it 'provides'. It now says it provides: rpm -q --whatprovides libswigpy.so no package provides libswigpy.os rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/lib/libswigpy.so swig-1.3.21-2 With the older version of swig (swig-1.3.19-6.1) it said: rpm -q --whatprovides libswigpy.so swig-1.3.19-6.1 To work around, try this: yum --exclude=subversion\* --exclude=mod_dav_svn update That will allow you to update all the packages except subversion. tom -------------------------------------------- * From: Paul * To: fedora * Subject: libswigpy * Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:58:50 +0100 Hi, Just attempted to do a yum update from the rawhide servers and it's come back with libswigpy being missing. What is supposed to provide it or is it more a case of it not having been placed on rawhide yet? TTFN Paul -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From manlio.frizzi at brainforce.it Fri May 28 16:13:48 2004 From: manlio.frizzi at brainforce.it (Manlio Frizzi) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 18:13:48 +0200 Subject: Fedora 2: Error activating XKB configuration Message-ID: Hi all I've got this dialog box after X has started: Error activating XKB configuration. Probably internal X server problem. X server version data: The X.Org Foundation 60700000 If you report this situation as a bug, please include: - The result of xprop -root | grep XKB - The result of gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/xkb so i include the two results: xprop -root | grep XKB output is: _XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "xfree86", "pc105", "it", "", "" _XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "xfree86", "pc105", "it", "", "" gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/xkb output is layouts = [it] model = pc105 overrideSettings = false options = [] Bye thanX Manlio <-.??.???) o (?'?.??.->---------------<-.??.???) o (?'?.??.-> Cordiali Saluti. Best Regards. Manlio Frizzi ( http://kame.usr.dsi.unimi.it/home/albert/manlio ) 348 7674165 W2K MCSE -- Linux user #278128 http://counter.li.org -o) Fedora Core 2 /\ Kernel 2.4.26 _\_v on a i686 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net Fri May 28 16:27:07 2004 From: whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net (William Hooper) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:27:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora 2: Error activating XKB configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3890.12.29.16.103.1085761627.squirrel@12.29.16.103> Manlio Frizzi said: > Hi all > I've got this dialog box after X has started: > > Error activating XKB configuration. > Probably internal X server problem. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/msg06964.html Please ask Fedora 2 questions on the fedora-list. -- William Hooper From notting at redhat.com Fri May 28 16:46:24 2004 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:46:24 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 2 Test Update: kudzu-1.1.68-1 In-Reply-To: <20040525203449.GG8072@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040525203449.GG8072@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040528164624.GB12755@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Bill Nottingham (notting at redhat.com) said: > This update fixes a problem when handling modules that contain a '-' in the > name (such as ne2k-pci); in the presence of these, some modules would not get > loaded or unloaded correctly. > > Included are also some minor fixes for architectures other than > x86 or x86-64. > > If no new regressions are found, this package will be pushed as a final update > by Friday, May 28. Some internal issues have been discovered with this; while they shouldn't cause new regressions, we'd like to track them down before pushing as a final update. So this is on hold. Bill From alan at redhat.com Fri May 28 17:16:45 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:16:45 -0400 Subject: Fedora 2: Error activating XKB configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040528171645.GA13961@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 06:13:48PM +0200, Manlio Frizzi wrote: > Error activating XKB configuration. > Probably internal X server problem. > > X server version data: > The X.Org Foundation > 60700000 If you got this after updating from a test release to gnome 2 final its a known problem From alan at redhat.com Fri May 28 17:26:31 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:26:31 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 In-Reply-To: <1085752960.6272.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085752960.6272.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040528172631.GE13961@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 10:02:40AM -0400, Mike Lurk wrote: > So far with this kernel (2.6.6-1.391) I haven't been able to do anything > in openGL. As a matter of fact any of the 2.6.6 kernels haven't worked > with openGL. The mobo is an Intel with a p3 600 and an integrated I810 > video and the intel sound integrated as well. Any help would be > appreciated. Try the i586 kernel instead of the i686 one. If that works then something in the 4G/4G support has probably been broken again. Either way please let us know what happens From eric at interplas.com Fri May 28 17:58:35 2004 From: eric at interplas.com (Eric Wood) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:58:35 -0400 Subject: megaraid 320-1 not detected in FC2 Message-ID: <010b01c444dd$65ca8990$b100000a@M145Primary> LSI's megaraid card doesn't show up with lspci. FC1 detected it fine. Reported. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124708 -eric wood From alan at redhat.com Fri May 28 18:02:41 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:02:41 -0400 Subject: megaraid 320-1 not detected in FC2 In-Reply-To: <010b01c444dd$65ca8990$b100000a@M145Primary> References: <010b01c444dd$65ca8990$b100000a@M145Primary> Message-ID: <20040528180241.GA4597@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 01:58:35PM -0400, Eric Wood wrote: > LSI's megaraid card doesn't show up with lspci. FC1 detected it fine. Can you see what a) The test kernel Arjan put out does b) If acpi=off makes it appear c) If it really does still work in FC1 d) What lspci -M -H1 says about it From eric at interplas.com Fri May 28 18:59:27 2004 From: eric at interplas.com (Eric Wood) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:59:27 -0400 Subject: megaraid 320-1 not detected in FC2 References: <010b01c444dd$65ca8990$b100000a@M145Primary> <20040528180241.GA4597@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <011b01c444e5$e6522840$b100000a@M145Primary> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Cox" > a) The test kernel Arjan put out does I'll call that plan B. ;-) > b) If acpi=off makes it appear That did it! FC2 installer now auto detected the megaraid. > c) If it really does still work in FC1 It does. > d) What lspci -M -H1 says about it Ahhh. The megaraid does show up under another bus number. I'll have to brush up on my lspci man page. I'll do some more testing and update bugzilla. Thanks, -Eric Wood From alan at redhat.com Fri May 28 22:24:40 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 18:24:40 -0400 Subject: megaraid 320-1 not detected in FC2 In-Reply-To: <011b01c444e5$e6522840$b100000a@M145Primary> References: <010b01c444dd$65ca8990$b100000a@M145Primary> <20040528180241.GA4597@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <011b01c444e5$e6522840$b100000a@M145Primary> Message-ID: <20040528222440.GB20077@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 02:59:27PM -0400, Eric Wood wrote: > > b) If acpi=off makes it appear > > That did it! FC2 installer now auto detected the megaraid. Thanks From michal at harddata.com Fri May 28 23:55:26 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:55:26 -0600 Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: ; from balay@fastmail.fm on Tue, May 25, 2004 at 01:47:50PM -0500 References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040528175526.B29192@mail.harddata.com> On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 01:47:50PM -0500, Satish Balay wrote: > ACPI with the new kernel doesn't work on IBM ThinkPad T40. With > > echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep > > the machine briefly attempts to go to sleep and then comes back. On Acer TM 230 I found that a presence of ehci_hcd was responsible for such behaviour. OTOH if that module was not loaded in a startup sequence then the only recognized USB devices were those which were plugged in while booting and after disconnections and replugging they were no longer accessible. It turns out that rmmoding ehci_hcd before attempts to put a box to sleep is good enough and that module does not have to be re-inserted for USB devices to be noticed again; either when plugged anew or after a laptop resumes. No idea why. I also had to add 'acpi_sleep=s3_bios' to boot parameters or video was gone. Still putting TM 230 to sleep kills an access to an internal floppy but so far these are all losses. I do not know about PCMCIA slot as I have at this moment nothing to stick there. If any of the above will work with ThinkPad I cannot tell but it is worth to try. Michal From spam at tachegroup.com Sat May 29 01:49:10 2004 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:49:10 -0400 Subject: Lilo not updated with FC2 Message-ID: FYI: I just updated a Redhat 9.x machine to Fedora Core 2, and the updater did not update the LILO configuration to contain the new kernels. The machine would not boot, since the old kernel did not contain the ext3 module. It was not biggie for me, since I just booted into rescue mode via the install CDROM, and did a grub-install. Next reboot everything worked fine. I 99.44% certain that I selected the option to update the boot loader, knowing that it was LILO, and since I have moved to using grub. Prepping the machine to be grub beforehand, would have made the install go perfect. Cheers to a good release for all you people that contributed! From mclark323 at cox.net Sat May 29 05:37:55 2004 From: mclark323 at cox.net (Marshall Clark) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 22:37:55 -0700 Subject: Missing Files Message-ID: <1085809075.744.38.camel@heather.localnet.cxm> New to list today.(sorry) Is the development tree ok for testing by interested parties? Missing files in /Fedora/Base and /images Googled the ones at Duke but tree is older and missing files do not work on new tree. Anaconda fails. Build stamp or something on header file order/version? Ftp at Duke was to slow to downgrade if there is a working version of the missing files. Would love to test both 32bit and 64bit. I have 450mz cube and Dual G5. Might even go get a Powerbook in the not to distant future. Have FC2 on amd64 and 32 machines. Have had 0 lockups on either machine since installed. Few odd bugs but very usable and stable. Am cancer patient with daytime on my hands. Am tired of waiting for SCO to die.(It is only a matter of time though) Am lucid and semi-competent with 2 athlon linux machines, 1 athlon linux laptop, 1 MacOsx Dual G5, 1 G4 Cube, 1 amd64 linux, 1 Xbox Xebian 1.02, Sharp Zaurus 5600. Have numerus hardware setups ATI 9800,ATI 9600,ATI 7000, Rage 128, Xbox chip video chip(can't remember offhand), Dvd writer sony, Superdrives, CD recorders, Bttv cards, 4 different video cams, tv cards, etc. Over 1 terrabyte combined HD storage. Broadband routers, wireless B router and access points, switches, hubs, usb hubs, DV video cameras, usb storage devices, KVM switches, LCD flat screens, 5 printers/lasers.(One sick puppy I think) Have 2 dual athlon MP boards w/chips if anybody wants to pay shipping. Either MB's broke or CPU's broke, but 1 processer will run on both machines. I believe they are both odd frq chips 1900mhz and 2100mhz. Seems I have better luck with all athlons with even mhz ie 2600,3000. Have wasted to much time on them recently, moving on.(Without warranty of course) Am moving in 30 days don't want to toss if anybody wants. Contact me if interested. From pnasrat at redhat.com Sat May 29 08:36:10 2004 From: pnasrat at redhat.com (Paul Nasrat) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 04:36:10 -0400 Subject: Testing Fedora on PPC Re: Missing Files In-Reply-To: <1085809075.744.38.camel@heather.localnet.cxm> References: <1085809075.744.38.camel@heather.localnet.cxm> Message-ID: <20040529083609.GA557@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 10:37:55PM -0700, Marshall Clark wrote: > New to list today.(sorry) fedora-ppc list which you have already started this thread on is probably more appropriate, as others here may be intrested in ppc state I'll repeat my reply here, hopefully in a consolidated manor. Also just a quick note - if you are moving questions to a new list please choose a more meaningful topic, had I not seen your posts elsewhere I would not have none from the Subject that it was fedora ppc specific. For a good guide on composing emails and choosing forums please see: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > Is the development tree ok for testing by interested parties? Testing is always welcome - however if you are testing rawhide or even a full test release I point you at Jeff Spaleta's summary: "Test releases eat babies. The nvidia driver, is just one of the many juicy suculant babies the test process will devour. This and worse is to be expected." http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-April/msg01469.html The development tree is often changing installs are impossible due to it not being self consistent (dependancies getting out of sync, etc). Also note you do not explicitly mention you are testing ppc which is NOT a supported platform for fedora. > Missing files in /Fedora/Base and /images This is ppc rawhide specific. To clarify rawhide is now missing the boot.iso and stage2 images: As already mentioned in personal mail and fedora-ppc list we know about this and it's in bugzilla - if you want to track the process please add your CC to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=124657 That way you'll know about it as soon as it's fixed :) > Googled the ones at Duke but tree is older and missing files do not work > on new tree. As I mentioned to you before rawhide can break, the tree at duke is installable and works well if you follow the instructions here: http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/ibook/fedorappc.html The tree is available via http here - http://fedora.linux.duke.edu/fedorappc/ I don't think it is available via ftp. I have installed this tree on a iBook G3, iMac DV SE, G3 Powerbook (Lombard), and yum updated a YDL install on a G5 (directly off the duke repo by http). Looking at the remaining issues in the installer is on my TODO but not my highest priority task. This works for fedorappc by design, as rwahide can break it is a known working snapshot. A number of people aren't experiencing your b/w issues against that server so it may be a local issue. As it's a snapshot as of 14 May so v. close to FC2. I will try and find an additional mirror to push that snapshot to but You could try a http install using the boot.iso and pointing at that tree. > Anaconda fails. If you have the entire tree you can run buildinstall to create the images/stage2. See the Anaconda Documentation project for details: http://rau.homedns.org/twiki/bin/view/Anaconda/AnacondaDocumentationProject > Would love to test both 32bit and 64bit. > I have 450mz cube and Dual G5. > Might even go get a Powerbook in the not to distant future. Thanks for your intrest in Fedora ppc, as you can see we are not quite there yet, most of the issues on ppc32 are known, biarch shouldn't be too much work off our tree as we will mostly run 32bit user space. If you are expecting a fully working distribution may be better off waiting for YellowDog Linux 4 release which is based on Fedora Core 2, at the moment a Fedora Core install requires manual testing and won't work out of the box as smoothly as it does on x86 and x86_64. Getting a installable FC2+updates tree is something I wish to do as is having mac as a fully supported FC3 platform but as mentioned it's really a question of developer time and priorities. Paul From tcallawa at redhat.com Sat May 29 11:50:32 2004 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom 'spot' Callaway) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 06:50:32 -0500 Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Build-1.91 (Code Name Wombat) Message-ID: <1085831432.26656.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi folks, As promised, the first Fedora Core 2 based tree of Aurora SPARC Linux is now available. Like I've previously said, its not an installable tree (this means, no ISOs). We'll get there eventually, this is just something so that people can get a baseline upgrade. Now, I have yumified the tree, so if you're feeling really brave, you can always point yum at it, and try to upgrade that way. A version of yum for Aurora 1.0 is here: http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/download/1.0/yum-1.0.3-1_73.noarch.rpm If you're a listed mirror site, please sync the build-1.91 directory, and chime in. The primary directory is currently at: ftp://auroralinux.org/pub/aurora/build-1.91/ Now, for the known bugs: After tearing my hair out for a week or so, I came to the conclusion (backed by several other people trying to do the same thing for other distributions) that SILO 1.4.* is completely broken. Build 1.91 uses SILO 1.3.2 which should work fine. If it doesn't, let me know. The sparc32 kernel in the tree has known issues with sun4c. If you're interested in helping to troubleshoot these issues, email me offlist, otherwise, be forewarned. :) system-config-display doesn't work right. Me and Peter fixed it yesterday, though, so there's no need to file bugs on it. I know the package revisions don't quite match up to FC2 final. Next tree should be a lot closer. Any other bugs that you find? Please either email me or file them in bugzilla.auroralinux.org, under Corona. Thanks for your continued patience, ~spot --- Tom "spot" Callaway LCA, RHCE Red Hat Sales Engineer || Aurora SPARC Linux Project Leader "If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill From tkonto at aegean.gr Sat May 29 18:26:25 2004 From: tkonto at aegean.gr (Kontogiannis Theophanis) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:26:25 +0300 Subject: pppd problem again???? Message-ID: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768CA@hermes2.aegean.gr> Dear all, Now that I have installed FC2 I noticed that the active-filter option is compiled in the new distrib. Thank you all on that (and for the new Fedora.... really nice) BUT: Now I have another problem. pppd daemon keeps on complaining that: May 28 20:59:28 gw pppd[4643]: error in active-filter expression: inbound/outbound not supported on linktype 0 I looked on tcpdump man page (and pppd) but no answers there! Now what? :) The previous problem is fixed (tha fact that pppd needed recompilation to support active-filter and then wvdial did not work with pppd) and now there is a new one. I have the filling that this cameout of the new kernel! true? I do not need to mention that it is a VERY needed option, to make clear to pppd when to drop the link as idle. Thank you all again. Sincerely, Theophanis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a less complicated way to get around the qt-devel and gtk2-devel requirements just to install the kernel source on a system without X? Thanks -- Bob Cochran Greenbelt, Maryland, USA http://greenbeltcomputer.biz/ From cmadams at hiwaay.net Sat May 29 19:04:43 2004 From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 14:04:43 -0500 Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Build-1.91 (Code Name Wombat) In-Reply-To: <1085831432.26656.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085831432.26656.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20040529190443.GA1196870@hiwaay.net> Once upon a time, Tom 'spot' Callaway said: > As promised, the first Fedora Core 2 based tree of Aurora SPARC Linux is > now available. Like I've previously said, its not an installable tree > (this means, no ISOs). We'll get there eventually, this is just > something so that people can get a baseline upgrade. What is the best way to bootstrap this on a clean system? I just happen to have a Ultra 2 sitting here that I'd like to install Fedora on (I just got Solaris 9 installed, but I'd like to install a real OS :-) ). -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sat May 29 19:09:58 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:09:58 +0200 Subject: Kernel-source RPM For "Minimal" Fedora Core 2 Installs In-Reply-To: <40B8DAEB.4090209@speakeasy.net> References: <40B8DAEB.4090209@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <1085857797.11114.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le sam 29/05/2004 ? 20:48, Robert L Cochran a ?crit : > I did a "minimal" Fedora Core 2 install mainly to play with. You don't > get X with this -- fine by me. To that I wanted to add the rpm's needed > for software development. One of these is the kernel-source RPM. This > package requires qt-devel and gtk2-devel, each of which in turn has a > long list of dependencies. Using rpm -ivh --force... doesn't seem to > work. Try "--nodeps". > To keep things small, I installed the kernel src.rpm package, and > edited the spec file to remove the requirement for qt-devel and > gtk2-devel. Then built it with rpmbuild --bb and finally installed the > new kernel-source rpm. > > That in turn allowed me to do 'make menuconfig' which is all I really > need for this "play" system. > > Is there a less complicated way to get around the qt-devel and > gtk2-devel requirements just to install the kernel source on a system > without X? > > Thanks > > -- > Bob Cochran > Greenbelt, Maryland, USA > http://greenbeltcomputer.biz/ > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From balay at fastmail.fm Sat May 29 19:56:30 2004 From: balay at fastmail.fm (Satish Balay) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 14:56:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: new kernel for testing In-Reply-To: <20040528175526.B29192@mail.harddata.com> References: <20040525130822.GB16852@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20040528175526.B29192@mail.harddata.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 28 May 2004, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 01:47:50PM -0500, Satish Balay wrote: >> ACPI with the new kernel doesn't work on IBM ThinkPad T40. With >> >> echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep >> >> the machine briefly attempts to go to sleep and then comes back. > > On Acer TM 230 I found that a presence of ehci_hcd was responsible > for such behaviour. OTOH if that module was not loaded in a startup > sequence then the only recognized USB devices were those which were > plugged in while booting and after disconnections and replugging > they were no longer accessible. It turns out that rmmoding ehci_hcd > before attempts to put a box to sleep is good enough and that module > does not have to be re-inserted for USB devices to be noticed again; > either when plugged anew or after a laptop resumes. No idea why. > > I also had to add 'acpi_sleep=s3_bios' to boot parameters or > video was gone. Still putting TM 230 to sleep kills an access > to an internal floppy but so far these are all losses. I do not > know about PCMCIA slot as I have at this moment nothing to stick > there. > > If any of the above will work with ThinkPad I cannot tell but > it is worth to try. Thanks for the info. I've tried removing ehci_hcd before suspend - and it worked on the T40. Satish From mike.lurk at sympatico.ca Sat May 29 20:17:30 2004 From: mike.lurk at sympatico.ca (Mike Lurk) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 16:17:30 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 Message-ID: <1085861850.6781.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message: 5 Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:26:31 -0400 From: Alan Cox Subject: Re: kernel 2.6.6 To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Message-ID: <20040528172631.GE13961 at devserv.devel.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 10:02:40AM -0400, Mike Lurk wrote: > So far with this kernel (2.6.6-1.391) I haven't been able to do anything > in openGL. As a matter of fact any of the 2.6.6 kernels haven't worked > with openGL. The mobo is an Intel with a p3 600 and an integrated I810 > video and the intel sound integrated as well. Any help would be > appreciated. Try the i586 kernel instead of the i686 one. If that works then something in the 4G/4G support has probably been broken again. Either way please let us know what happens _______________________________________________________________________ It's easier to disable 4G/4G in the kernel than trying to install the i586 kernel. I will try that first and if that doesn't work I will try the i586 kernel and see if that changes anything. Either way I will let you know Mike From pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de Sat May 29 20:34:30 2004 From: pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de (Peter Boy) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 22:34:30 +0200 Subject: vmware 4.51, FC2T3 [x86_64] - had had anyone success? In-Reply-To: <1084822364.1881.570.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> References: <1084811614.5889.10.camel@littlePiet> <1084822364.1881.570.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <1085862869.12551.238.camel@littlePiet> Am Mo, den 17.05.2004 schrieb Phil Schaffner um 21:32: > > On google I found vmware-any-any-update67, but no hint how to install > > it. And it seems to be for the i386 arch. > > Unpack the archive and run runme.pl. I'd do something like: > > # tar zxvf vmware-any-any-update67.tar.gz -C /usr/local/src > # cd /usr/local/src/vmware-any-any-update67 > # ./runme.pl Sorry for my late answer but I couldn't spent any time to VMware during past days. I followed your advice and I could compile and install VMware. But when I start it, there is a message "This version of the Linux Kernel is newer than the newest series with which VMware is supported. It may not work. ...continue?" Well, if I continue the machine crashes totally, only a hard reset helps. OK, there was a thread about this problem once ago. I'll search the archives. Thanks for your advice. Peter From arnling at kth.se Sat May 29 20:54:30 2004 From: arnling at kth.se (Joakim Arnling) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 22:54:30 +0200 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1085864070.4825.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have noticed some bugs, are there a bugzilla somewhere? The bug is about adding a script as a signature, and the "answer all" button. On fre, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > purposes. Enjoy! > > Dave Malcolm > > From arnling at kth.se Sat May 29 21:07:44 2004 From: arnling at kth.se (Joakim Arnling) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 23:07:44 +0200 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085864070.4825.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085864070.4825.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1085864864.4825.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> OK, i found the fedora-redhat bugzilla, but there was not that many bugs for evolution 1.5.8 there, is it the right place really? On l?r, 2004-05-29 at 22:54 +0200, Joakim Arnling wrote: > I have noticed some bugs, are there a bugzilla somewhere? > The bug is about adding a script as a signature, and the "answer all" > button. > > On fre, 2004-05-21 at 18:46 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > I've built RPMs of the new Evolution release (1.5.8) and its > > dependencies for FC2 in my usual yum archive: > > http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm > > > > Usual disclaimers apply: this is an unstable release, for testing > > purposes. Enjoy! > > > > Dave Malcolm > > > > > > From rpa4email at rogers.com Sat May 29 21:44:18 2004 From: rpa4email at rogers.com (Robert Couture) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 17:44:18 -0400 Subject: New unstable Evolution (1.5.8) In-Reply-To: <1085864864.4825.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085179609.14034.9.camel@dhcp64-231.boston.redhat.com> <1085864070.4825.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1085864864.4825.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1085867058.11153.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-29-05 at 23:07 +0200, Joakim Arnling wrote: > OK, i found the fedora-redhat bugzilla, but there was not that many bugs > for evolution 1.5.8 there, is it the right place really? Try http://bugzilla.ximian.com for Evolution Developers. RC. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If that works then something in the 4G/4G support has probably been broken again. Either way please let us know what happens ______________________________________________________________________ The i586 kernel worked. I tried to recompile with 4G/4G turned off but during the recompile it wouldn't create the custom kernel directory in /lib/modules. Mike From tmcgaha1 at comcast.net Sun May 30 01:31:06 2004 From: tmcgaha1 at comcast.net (Tim McGaha) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:31:06 -0400 Subject: FC2 Test 3 and DWL-520 (Rev D) wireless adapter Message-ID: <000001c445e5$c7c4b040$6901a8c0@timsgateway> I'm still trying my best to get a DWL-520 Rev D wireless adapter working on FC2 Test 3. I hav been trying to use the wlan-ng package and PRISM drivers with no real luck. I really like usinf Fedora but this is really giving me a hrad time. It shouldn't be so difficult for anyone to configure a wireless adapter on any OS. Trying to install the prism2_pci module I get the following: modprobe prism2_pci WARNING: Error inserting p80211 (/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.327/linux-wlan-ng/p80211.ko): Invalid module format FATAL: Error inserting prism2_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.5-1.327/linux-wlan-ng/prism2_pci.ko): Invalid module format dmesg output is: p80211: version magic '2.6.5-1.327custom 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.5-1.327 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.3' prism2_pci: version magic '2.6.5-1.327custom 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.5-1.327 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.3' I'm not that up to speed with building kernels and or customizing kernels o its probably something related to that. If anyone can help me and I can get this to work I will be both truly grateful and amazed. Thanks -Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lowen at pari.edu Sun May 30 01:58:34 2004 From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:58:34 -0400 Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Build-1.91 (Code Name Wombat) In-Reply-To: <20040529190443.GA1196870@hiwaay.net> References: <1085831432.26656.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040529190443.GA1196870@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <200405292158.34324.lowen@pari.edu> On Saturday 29 May 2004 15:04, Chris Adams wrote: > What is the best way to bootstrap this on a clean system? I just happen > to have a Ultra 2 sitting here that I'd like to install Fedora on (I > just got Solaris 9 installed, but I'd like to install a real OS :-) ). Install Aurora 1.0, update it, and then point yum to Wombat, if you're really brave. I plan on doing this to an Aurora 1.0 box I have lying around after I get back from vacation. Then again, I do have remote console... Hmmmm.... Then to get it on the other 15 U30's of the PARI cluster.... But probably after vacation. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun May 30 02:27:57 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 19:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: round() in glibc*2.3.3-31 Message-ID: <20040530022757.59313.qmail@web11405.mail.yahoo.com> Hello- does anyone know why round() does not work correctly in a C program without using the compiler flag "-std=c99". any program will compile correctly without any warnings in gcc but then the function will return garbage data unless the flag is added during compilation. there's no mention of this in the man page... i only discovered this by googling and then finding this response "http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/2004-01/msg02169.html". is this a problem with the glibc package in Fedora? i feel this is either a bug or something that should be documented in a man page somewhere.. and yes, to mention the obvious, i did #include in my source and also compiled in gcc with the -lm option. thanks everyone... mark. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From drepper at redhat.com Sun May 30 02:47:55 2004 From: drepper at redhat.com (Ulrich Drepper) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 19:47:55 -0700 Subject: round() in glibc*2.3.3-31 In-Reply-To: <20040530022757.59313.qmail@web11405.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040530022757.59313.qmail@web11405.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40B94B5B.2070200@redhat.com> Mark Fonnemann wrote: > is this a problem with > the glibc package in Fedora? Did you ever consider that it's your fault? It is apparent that you did not since otherwise you'd have passed -Wall to gcc to first eliminate all your bugs (including this case you complain about). > i feel this is either a bug or something that > should be documented in a man page somewhere.. It is documented in all the places. round() is a function introduced in C99 which means the prototype is not available by default. Therefore either pass -std=c99 or -D_ISOC99_SOURCE to the compiler. I just hope that possible employers during their background checks stumble across this kind of messages to weed out incompetent programmers who always try to blame others for the bugs in their own code. -- ? Ulrich Drepper ? Red Hat, Inc. ? 444 Castro St ? Mountain View, CA ? From sean at charlug.org Sun May 30 03:29:34 2004 From: sean at charlug.org (Sean Hogston) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 23:29:34 -0400 Subject: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders In-Reply-To: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0951@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> References: <0EB16F5D5E80724FA5B98AD4820DC0B41A0951@ORNLEXCHANGE.ornl.gov> Message-ID: <1085887774.4787.6.camel@quicksilver.hogston.lan> On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 17:43, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Sean Hogston > Sent: Wed 5/26/2004 6:14 PM > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > Subject: RE: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders > > That is probably because FC2 uses x.org instead of XFree86. Look at the > modelines and other settings in that config and modify yours to match. > Im not sure if the Nvidia driver will run on FC2 as my test machine is > not a Dell D800. > > I found out that the D800 I have only supports 1280x1024. That is I don't have a WUXGA LCD display. > > However, I do have a Precision M60 that supports 1920x1200. > I have only been able to get the M60 to 1680x1050. > Do I really need to specify modelines with version X in Fedora 2? > That i'm not sure about. I just know that if your particular screen is not supported by default you have to specify the modes. > > > > > > > Sean > > On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 10:28, Williams Jr, Ernest L. wrote: > > Hi > > > > This did not work for me under Fedora2 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Sean Hogston > > Sent: Wed 5/26/2004 9:29 AM > > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases > > Subject: Re: 1920x1200 LCD unwanted borders > > > > Here is my config. This is on FC1 with the nvidia driver. > > > > Sean > > > > > > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 18:14, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 17:47, Sean Hogston wrote: > > > > what chipset do you have? Nvidia? > > > > > > Yes, I have Nvidia. > > > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, Ernest L. Williams Jr. wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I have a DELL Precision M60. > > > > > > > > > > When I choose a resolution 1920x1200, I end up with unwanted 0.5in. > > > > > borders on the side. How can this be resolved? > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand if I choose 1920x1440 then the display is indeed full > > > > > but my task bar is now off the bottom of the display. Does any one have > > > > > a magic "XF86Config" file? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > -- > > > > > Ernest L. Williams Jr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > From markf78 at yahoo.com Sun May 30 05:24:50 2004 From: markf78 at yahoo.com (Mark Fonnemann) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 22:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: round() in glibc*2.3.3-31 In-Reply-To: <20040530033113.A992C7473C@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040530052450.63685.qmail@web11413.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all- >I just hope that possible employers during their background checks >stumble across this kind of messages to weed out incompetent programmers >who always try to blame others for the bugs in their own code. oh, a personal attack that accomplished a lot. i'm glad you wrote this, it was really insightful, very informative, and definitely not a waste of everyone's time or anything (including the time it took for you to type it). it's a shame that you are so insecure that you have to throw stones at other people (maybe just me, who knows) to make yourself feel better. ;-) i've already sent you a personal response, no sense of carrying on here about this but i do want to add that i never blame others for mistakes i make. and, i wasn't really blaming anyone. if you'll recall, i'd asked a question "is this documented somewhere" followed by a question mark and then added if not "i think it should" i.e. in the man pages for round() and math.h. this might be the first time that i tried to help someone (or something) and got attacked for doing so (the fedora core distro by finding and documenting bugs; btw, i found another in X... just now as i write this my X server just crashed multiple times! note to everyone reading, i am not blaming the xorg group for this bug, after all maybe i did something wrong, i am "incompetent" after all. ;-0) and, one final thing. i'm actually a fairly competent programmer... i challenge you to a coding contest if you really feel the urge to prove yourself! until then, i'll continue to file bugs in bugzilla and comment on others i find while wallowing in my "incompetence". mark "sorry to steal jef's signature move, my apologies to him, but since when does suggesting an addition to the man pages and asking a question about c99 when you've always been a K&R C guy (hence, the ignorance about round returning junk data which i still maintain is something gcc should fix lest it not be allowed without -std=c99) deserve a tirade about programmer incompetence?" fonnemann. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From matt at rairyu.tk Sun May 30 05:59:16 2004 From: matt at rairyu.tk (Matthew Faull) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 14:59:16 +0900 Subject: ASUS S5200N s3 sleep success with 2.6.6-1.397 In-Reply-To: <20040529160017.BD6E073E42@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040529160017.BD6E073E42@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40B97834.9080607@rairyu.tk> The s3 sleep mode on my laptop now appears to work perfectly. I am using this kernel 2.6.6-1.397 with the patch referenced in this bugzilla entry: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121760 and unloading the ehci_hcd module, before initiating the sleep. I'm also using the following kernel parameter: acpi_sleep=s3_bios and use this command to put the machine to sleep: "echo 3bios > /proc/acpi/sleep" (From a recent posting on this list) It seems to still work fine if I unplug and re-plug my usb mouse into the machine at different parts of the sleep process(this used to make the machine freeze or the usb interface couldn't be re-awakened on some other recent kernels) Network interface also comes back to life again nicely. Thanks people Cheers Matt From feliciano.matias at free.fr Sun May 30 08:47:39 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 10:47:39 +0200 Subject: round() in glibc*2.3.3-31 In-Reply-To: <20040530052450.63685.qmail@web11413.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040530052450.63685.qmail@web11413.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1085906856.30161.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dim 30/05/2004 ? 07:24, Mark Fonnemann a ?crit : > (snip) > round returning > junk data which i still maintain is something gcc should fix I am not a very "competent" programmer but there is nothing wrong with gcc or glibc. Without prototype, round() is supposed to return an int and not a double (as describe in K&R manual :-)). The bug report you pointed is clear : http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13734 Use warnings: pr13734.c:4: warning: return type defaults to `int' pr13734.c: In function `main': pr13734.c:5: warning: implicit declaration of function `round' math.h : The file contains the prototypes for all the actual math functions. bits/mathcalls.h : #ifdef __USE_ISOC99 [...] /* Round X to nearest integral value, rounding halfway cases away from zero. */ __MATHCALLX (round,, (_Mdouble_ __x), (__const__)); gcc have very useful warnings for competent and incompetent programmers. Use -Wall for exemple (info gcc). > i challenge you to a coding contest if you really feel the urge to > prove yourself! http://people.redhat.com/drepper/ Have fun ! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From alan at redhat.com Sun May 30 09:53:49 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 05:53:49 -0400 Subject: round() in glibc*2.3.3-31 In-Reply-To: <20040530022757.59313.qmail@web11405.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040530022757.59313.qmail@web11405.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040530095349.GA28140@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 07:27:57PM -0700, Mark Fonnemann wrote: > does anyone know why round() does not work correctly in a C program without > using the compiler flag "-std=c99". any program will compile correctly without Because is a C99 fuynction > the glibc package in Fedora? i feel this is either a bug or something that > should be documented in a man page somewhere.. and yes, to mention the obvious, See the man page "CONFORMING TO C99." > i did #include in my source and also compiled in gcc with the -lm > option. thanks everyone... Did you compile with -Wall -pedantic however ? If you turned lots of warnings on you would have been warned about the lack of a prototype for round() and known you needed one so that it knew the return type was double. Its marked "INVALID" in gcc bugs for good reasons. From aoliva at redhat.com Sun May 30 11:41:06 2004 From: aoliva at redhat.com (Alexandre Oliva) Date: 30 May 2004 08:41:06 -0300 Subject: round() in glibc*2.3.3-31 In-Reply-To: <40B94B5B.2070200@redhat.com> References: <20040530022757.59313.qmail@web11405.mail.yahoo.com> <40B94B5B.2070200@redhat.com> Message-ID: On May 29, 2004, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > I just hope that possible employers during their background checks > stumble across this kind of messages to weed out incompetent programmers > who always try to blame others for the bugs in their own code. Agreed. I also hope that possible employers during their background checks stumble across this kind of messages to weed out programmers that are compelled to make personal attacks. Individual and team morales, and respect for co-workers, are also important for productivity, you know... :-/ -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} From tkonto at aegean.gr Sun May 30 12:21:45 2004 From: tkonto at aegean.gr (Kontogiannis Theophanis) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 15:21:45 +0300 Subject: pppd problem again???? Message-ID: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768CB@hermes2.aegean.gr> I did try to recompile the pppd-2.4.2 but it did not make any difference. (by the way pppd shipping with FC2 by default has filter enabled / compiled in) 2.4.1 does not compile. It needs a patch for net/bpf.h that is not available in the 2.4.1 tar ball. Available on 2.4.2. The kernel shipping by default with FC2 (2.6.5) has PPP_FILTER enabled by default. I said that the problem must have something to do with the new kernel (!!!) compared to FC1 (2.4 kernel) where the filter worked just fine. Well this is were my knowledge on programming stops. If anyone could help more on that it would be really helpfull. Sincerely, "Clifford Kite" wrote in message news:14sa9c.rk.ln at corncob.localhost.tld... > Theophanis Kontogiannis wrote: > > Dear all, > > > Now that I have installed FC2 I noticed that the active-filter option is > > compiled in the new distrib. Thank you all on that (and for the new > > Fedora.... really nice) > > > BUT: > > Now I have another problem. pppd daemon keeps on complaining that: > > > May 28 20:59:28 gw pppd[4643]: error in active-filter expression: > > inbound/outbound not supported on linktype 0 > > It shouldn't complain, my pppd doesn't. The standard pppd version from > 2.4.1 on correctly implements the filter options. This is in my standard > pppd connection script: > > active-filter '(outbound and not (icmp[0] = 0))' > > It works a treat. > > > I looked on tcpdump man page (and pppd) but no answers there! > > The tcpdump I have does object to inbound/outbound in the manner above, > but there it's a bug that's never been fixed. Maybe the FC crowd thought > it was better to change the pppd filter code to agree with the tcpdump bug. > Bad Idea. > > > Now what? :) > > Get the pppd source, 2.4.1, at ftp.samba.org in /pub/ppp, configure > the Makefile to get the filter code, compile it, and use the resulting > pppd binary instead of FC's. > > > The previous problem is fixed (tha fact that pppd needed recompilation to > > support active-filter and then wvdial did not work with pppd) and now there > > is a new one. 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Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [root at gw root]# dmesg|grep usb usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub usbcore: registered new driver hiddev usbcore: registered new driver hid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 3 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x1004 usbcore: registered new driver usblp drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 3 usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 4 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x1004 usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 5 usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 4 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 5 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 6 usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 7 drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 7 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x1004 is the device different now? thank you all theophanis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tkonto at aegean.gr Sun May 30 14:04:49 2004 From: tkonto at aegean.gr (Kontogiannis Theophanis) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 17:04:49 +0300 Subject: xconfig for kernel unreadable Message-ID: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768CE@hermes2.aegean.gr> Hi all, I have FC2 (no updates - just the 4 cd from the site) and I try to make xconfig whell a window pops up and instead of getting readable information, I get small circles (instead of characters) with various parts filled in black (half, full, quarter.. no circles just spaces....etc) I have English US and English language only as system wide and during the session! any hints? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maxer1 at xmission.com Sun May 30 14:46:02 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 08:46:02 -0600 Subject: 2.6.6-1.397 works on P4P800SE Message-ID: <40B9F3AA.3090802@xmission.com> New kernel 2.6.6-1.397 i686 works on my P4P800SE! Thanks, RaXeT From michal at harddata.com Sun May 30 15:57:08 2004 From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 09:57:08 -0600 Subject: ASUS S5200N s3 sleep success with 2.6.6-1.397 In-Reply-To: <40B97834.9080607@rairyu.tk>; from matt@rairyu.tk on Sun, May 30, 2004 at 02:59:16PM +0900 References: <20040529160017.BD6E073E42@hormel.redhat.com> <40B97834.9080607@rairyu.tk> Message-ID: <20040530095708.B14639@mail.harddata.com> On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 02:59:16PM +0900, Matthew Faull wrote: > The s3 sleep mode on my laptop now appears to work perfectly. > > I am using this kernel 2.6.6-1.397 > with the patch referenced in this bugzilla entry: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121760 > > and unloading the ehci_hcd module, before initiating the sleep. How about sound? On Acer TM230 I found that after a resume any attempt to play whatsoever repeats roughly the first second of a sound in an infinite loop. An output of 'lspci -vv' before and after sleeping does not show any differences. :-( This on the top of an inaccessible floppy which I mentioned before. Not the end of the world but somewhat unsatisfactory. Michal From linxit at ntlworld.com Sun May 30 16:16:43 2004 From: linxit at ntlworld.com (Andy Wallace) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 17:16:43 +0100 Subject: xconfig for kernel unreadable In-Reply-To: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768CE@hermes2.aegean.gr> References: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768CE@hermes2.aegean.gr> Message-ID: <1085933803.5640.31.camel@laptop.andyw.net> On Sun, 2004-05-30 at 15:04, Kontogiannis Theophanis wrote: > Hi all, > > I have FC2 (no updates - just the 4 cd from the site) > and I try to make xconfig > > whell a window pops up and instead of getting readable information, I > get > small circles (instead of characters) with various parts filled in > black > (half, full, quarter.. no circles just spaces....etc) > > I have English US and English language only as system wide and during > the > session! > > any hints? > I see similar behaviour on FC1 too, with both 2.6.5 and 2.6.6 kernels. Not circles like in FC2, but just empty squares. I haven't looked into it any further, just used menuconfig instead. I checked bugzilla, but couldn't find anything there. When I tried to post the bug, there was no kernel-source component available for FC2. Perhaps someone with more knowledge/experience could shed some light on the problem? AndyW From concert at europe.com Sun May 30 18:34:49 2004 From: concert at europe.com (t l) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 10:34:49 -0800 Subject: Xine seems to have lost it's sound! Message-ID: <20040530183449.8F5E079006A@ws1-14.us4.outblaze.com> I've succeeded in 'un-wedging' the sound by running the 'System Settings->Soundcard Detection' app. After running this, sound works again. If this doesn't work, try running 'alsamixer' command. Make sure the appropriate settings are turned on. You may need to run 'Soundcard Detection' after this.... Don't know why this works for me.... tom ------------------------------------------------- * From: Paul Hi, Any ideas on this one. I was halfway through playing an mpeg when the sound died on Xine. Not even a restart of the app would bring it back to life. I'm using ALSA, so there shouldn't be a problem with xmms being on. I killed it anyway, restarted Xine and still no sound. Any ideas? TTFN Paul -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From zimhat at foou.net Sun May 30 18:29:50 2004 From: zimhat at foou.net (Law Horne) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 13:29:50 -0500 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 Message-ID: <40BA281E.7040303@foou.net> I have had trouble getting the 2.6.6 kernels from Arjan's repo to work with my nic. I'm useing the nforce2 ethernet controller. I have even tried the latest(403) out of Arjan's repo. And it worked the first time. I thought I was safe but ever boot after that it cannot ping my router. I have not had a problem with the 2.6.5 kernels at all. I'm not sure what to do to trouble shoot this. And it does not appear that anyone else is having the same problem. I have posted my boot log before but did not get a response. If someone could point me in the direction of what might be needed to resolve this issue I would appreciate it. Thanks Law From fedora at warmcat.com Sun May 30 20:05:40 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 21:05:40 +0100 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 In-Reply-To: <40BA281E.7040303@foou.net> References: <40BA281E.7040303@foou.net> Message-ID: <200405302105.40756.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 30 May 2004 19:29, Law Horne wrote: > I have had trouble getting the 2.6.6 kernels from Arjan's repo to work > with my nic. I'm useing the nforce2 ethernet controller. I have even > tried the latest(403) out of Arjan's repo. And it worked the first time. > I thought I was safe but ever boot after that it cannot ping my router. I can suggest to check some simple things.. what is the output of /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route (you don't have to be root to get this) when the network is not working properly? As root, does tcpdump show any traffic if you run it on your machine and ping your machine from another? - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAuj6UjKeDCxMJCTIRAvjMAJ9BjRpZV3XiY23q9YFT2oO9oa1ZUgCfVi9B a8MttbsCg6h/69D4D/HTl7g= =kyZy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Sun May 30 21:48:44 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 17:48:44 -0400 Subject: xconfig for kernel unreadable In-Reply-To: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768CE@hermes2.aegean.gr> References: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768CE@hermes2.aegean.gr> Message-ID: <1085953724.12223.21.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Gentle reminder: Please turn of HTML in your mailer. :-) -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From matt at rairyu.tk Mon May 31 00:47:18 2004 From: matt at rairyu.tk (Matthew Faull) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:47:18 +0900 Subject: ASUS S5200N s3 sleep success with 2.6.6-1.397 In-Reply-To: <20040530160014.21D9C73BCB@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040530160014.21D9C73BCB@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40BA8096.6010706@rairyu.tk> It appears I spoke too soon. After waking from sleep the laptop seems to run fine. Sound seems to still work. Mouse is fine. (No floppy or cd rom on this laptop). However over the following 15 minutes or so the devices seem to die. (Some sorta death spiral) First the sound disappears, then the usb mouse disappears (but I can still use the touch pad). Then the network interface disappears. Then shortly after that the whole machine locks up. Will report back after I do some more testing with loading and unloading modules before and after putting it to sleep, and post any error/warning/ etc logs if they look interesting. Cheers Matt ********************************************************************* On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 02:59:16PM +0900, Matthew Faull wrote: >> The s3 sleep mode on my laptop now appears to work perfectly. >> >> I am using this kernel 2.6.6-1.397 >> with the patch referenced in this bugzilla entry: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121760 >> >> and unloading the ehci_hcd module, before initiating the sleep. > > How about sound? On Acer TM230 I found that after a resume any attempt to play whatsoever repeats roughly the first second of a sound in an infinite loop. An output of 'lspci -vv' before and after sleeping does not show any differences. This on the top of an inaccessible floppy which I mentioned before. Not the end of the world but somewhat unsatisfactory. Michal From feliciano.matias at free.fr Mon May 31 02:33:42 2004 From: feliciano.matias at free.fr (Matias Feliciano) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 04:33:42 +0200 Subject: Environment varibles and ps Message-ID: <1085970817.7629.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Here is the most recent exemple : [fmatias at localhost fmatias]$ ps ax | grep evo 11104 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/evolution/1.4/evolution-wombat --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Wombat_InterfaceCheck --oaf-ior-fd=42 11106 ? S 0:01 /usr/libexec/evolution/1.4/evolution-alarm-notify --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_AlarmNotify_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=45 7584 pts/4 D 0:00 grep evo HOSTNAME=localhost.localdomain DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID= SHELL=/bin/bash TERM=xterm HISTSIZE=1000 GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/fmatias/.gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 WINDOWID=29361896 QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-3.3 USER=fmatias LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=00;34:ln=00;36:pi=40;33:so=00;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=01;05;37;41:mi=01;05;37;41:ex=00;32:*.cmd=00;32:*.exe=00;32:*.com=00;32:*.btm=00;32:*.bat=00;32:*.sh=00;32:*.csh=00;32:*.tar=00;31:*.tgz=00;31:*.arj=00;31:*.taz=00;31:*.lzh=00;31:*.zip=00;31:*.z=00;31:*.Z=00;31:*.gz=00;31:*.bz2=00;31:*.bz=00;31:*.tz=00;31:*.rpm=00;31:*.cpio=00;31:*.jpg=00;35:*.gif=00;35:*.bmp=00;35:*.xbm=00;35:*.xpm=00;35:*.png=00;35:*.tif=00;35: GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET=/tmp/keyring-1lnBYa/socket SESSION_MANAGER=local/localhost.localdomain:/tmp/.ICE-unix/654 MAIL=/var/spool/mail/fmatias DESKTOP_SESSION=default PATH=/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/fmatias/bin INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc PWD=/home/fmatias LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 GDMSESSION=default HOME=/home/fmatias SHLVL=2 GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=Default LOGNAME=fmatias LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s DISPLAY=:0.0 G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1 COLORTERM=gnome-terminal XAUTHORITY=/home/fmatias/.Xauthority _=/bin/grep OLDPWD=/mnt/data/home/fmatias /bin/grep It's not a reproducible bug. All FC2 Test X have this bug and the final release also. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e. URL: From pchez at mail.cyberneme.com Mon May 31 13:49:08 2004 From: pchez at mail.cyberneme.com (Poonchezhian P.) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 19:19:08 +0530 Subject: Problem with My Compaq Presario 1030 Message-ID: <200405311919.08934.pchez@mail.cyberneme.com> Hi, I have a compaq presario 1030 PIV model Machine which came with Turbolinux 10 Preloaded. When I try to install Fedora core 2 in it, the machine is reset after the boot prompt. It occurs even after changing the CD-Drive that came with the machine. Have anyone faced this problem ?? Cud you please suggest some solution for this problem ?? Regards, -- Poonchezhian P. From rhlist at itns.co.za Mon May 31 14:53:45 2004 From: rhlist at itns.co.za (Greg Wildman) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 16:53:45 +0200 Subject: USB devices have moved in FC2? In-Reply-To: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768CD@hermes2.aegean.gr> References: <648BC770FECA244FBC13976A2F8B4C710768CD@hermes2.aegean.gr> Message-ID: <40BB46F9.8020907@itns.co.za> Kontogiannis Theophanis said the following on 30/05/2004 16:01: > Hi all, > > I have a USB modem that in all previous releases was attached to > /dev/input/ttyACM0 > > now FC2 (no changes or updates - as it ships with 4 CDs) keeps on giving: > > May 29 16:56:44 gw pppd[10694]: Failed to open /dev/input/ttyACM0: No such > device or address > > is the device different now? FC1 was based on the 2.4 kernel and FC2 is the 2.6 kernel. Lots of changes there. Have you tried /dev/ttyUSB0 ? -- Greg From maxer1 at xmission.com Mon May 31 14:58:23 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (maxer1) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:58:23 -0600 Subject: firewire by Oliva problems Message-ID: <40BB480F.8040204@xmission.com> Your archive firewire-dd.bz2.tar doesn't expand given your instructions in section 2 of your README. tar -xzf firewire-dd.tar.bz2 yields: tar (child): firewire-dd.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors Any work around? RaXeT From darren at dzr-web.com Mon May 31 15:14:49 2004 From: darren at dzr-web.com (D. D. Brierton) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 16:14:49 +0100 Subject: firewire by Oliva problems In-Reply-To: <40BB480F.8040204@xmission.com> References: <40BB480F.8040204@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1086016489.4980.2.camel@excession.dzr> On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 15:58, maxer1 wrote: > Your archive firewire-dd.bz2.tar doesn't expand given your instructions > in section 2 of your README. tar -xzf firewire-dd.tar.bz2 yields: tar -z is for gzip. Use tar -j for bzip2. Like so: tar -xjf firewire-dd.tar.bz2 Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren at dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ===================================================================== From maxer1 at xmission.com Mon May 31 15:27:18 2004 From: maxer1 at xmission.com (raxet) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:27:18 -0600 Subject: Firewire by Oliva revisted Message-ID: <40BB4ED6.3020307@xmission.com> Ok, have the drivers installed via README from http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/snapshots/FC2-firewire/0README Section 2.1 However, rebooting this kernel 2.6.6-1.403 and running modprobe ohci1394 and sbp2 (mind you it's detected at kernel boot), and running sh ./rescan-scsi-bus.sh changes absolutely nothing. My external Firewire BUSLink 48x12x48 drive is still not detected. lsmod shows: sbp2 18184 0 ohci1394 26392 0 ieee1394 278964 2 sbp2,ohci1394 and lspci -v shows: 02:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV26 IEEE-1394 Controller (Link) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Procomp Informatics Ltd: Unknown device 8010 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 Memory at feafb800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Memory at feaf4000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 1 However I can go back to my good old kernel 2.6.1-1.65smp and my Firewire drive is detected under Xcdroast-0.98alpha15-2 and works even. :) I'm afraid we're still looking for some patch upstream maybe by kernel 2.6.7 or 2.6.8 or something like 2.7 or maybe never :) RaXeT From zleite at mminternet.com Mon May 31 17:15:49 2004 From: zleite at mminternet.com (Z) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 10:15:49 -0700 Subject: firewire by Oliva problems In-Reply-To: <40BB480F.8040204@xmission.com> References: <40BB480F.8040204@xmission.com> Message-ID: <1086023749.13992.11.camel@z> On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 07:58, maxer1 wrote: > Your archive firewire-dd.bz2.tar doesn't expand given your instructions > in section 2 of your README. tar -xzf firewire-dd.tar.bz2 yields: > > tar (child): firewire-dd.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory > tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now > tar: Child returned status 2 > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors > > Any work around? > > RaXeT > bz2 needs tar -xvjf or just do a bunzip firewire-dd.tar.bz2 first then tar -xvf From tony at involution.com Mon May 31 17:58:17 2004 From: tony at involution.com (Tony Perrie) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 12:58:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: fedora core 2 xmms + mpg123 rpms available In-Reply-To: <1086023749.13992.11.camel@z> Message-ID: I compiled the xmms 1.2.10 rpm for fc2 with mpg123 and vorbis support. It seems to work. http://k-lug.org/~hoyhoy/rpms/fc2/ Tony From alan at redhat.com Mon May 31 18:47:41 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:47:41 -0400 Subject: Problem with My Compaq Presario 1030 In-Reply-To: <200405311919.08934.pchez@mail.cyberneme.com> References: <200405311919.08934.pchez@mail.cyberneme.com> Message-ID: <20040531184741.GE22379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 07:19:08PM +0530, Poonchezhian P. wrote: > I have a compaq presario 1030 PIV model Machine which came with Turbolinux 10 Preloaded. When I try to install > Fedora core 2 in it, the machine is reset after the boot prompt. It occurs even after changing the CD-Drive that came with the > machine. Have anyone faced this problem ?? Cud you please suggest some solution for this problem ?? First suggestion in such a case is always to boot with the added option "acpi=off" From alan at redhat.com Mon May 31 18:49:31 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:49:31 -0400 Subject: firewire by Oliva problems In-Reply-To: <40BB480F.8040204@xmission.com> References: <40BB480F.8040204@xmission.com> Message-ID: <20040531184931.GG22379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 08:58:23AM -0600, maxer1 wrote: > Your archive firewire-dd.bz2.tar doesn't expand given your instructions > in section 2 of your README. tar -xzf firewire-dd.tar.bz2 yields: .bz2 is bzip not gzip - try -xjf .. From strange at nsk.no-ip.org Mon May 31 18:53:01 2004 From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 19:53:01 +0100 Subject: firewire by Oliva problems In-Reply-To: <20040531184931.GG22379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <40BB480F.8040204@xmission.com> <20040531184931.GG22379@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040531185301.GA11711@nsk.no-ip.org> On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 02:49:31PM -0400, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 08:58:23AM -0600, maxer1 wrote: > > Your archive firewire-dd.bz2.tar doesn't expand given your instructions > > in section 2 of your README. tar -xzf firewire-dd.tar.bz2 yields: > > .bz2 is bzip not gzip - try -xjf .. By the error given by tar, I think he should try firewire-dd.tar.gz. Or the file's real name. Or check if it exists at all... Regards, Luciano Rocha -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. From alan at clueserver.org Mon May 31 19:45:52 2004 From: alan at clueserver.org (Alan) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 12:45:52 -0700 Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD In-Reply-To: <20040502124740.GC10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20040502113923.98081.qmail@web60007.mail.yahoo.com> <20040502124740.GC10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1086032752.9841.7.camel@zontar.clueserver.org> On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 05:47, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 04:39:23AM -0700, Stefan Lecho wrote: > > Using the proposed solution in the release notes > > (pci=off idel=0x180,0x386), leads to the following > > error message: "EIP is at pci_read 0x1a/0x21 ... > > Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init" > > Duplicated. > > The PCI layer in test3 is being called even when PCI methods are > not available: > > pcibios_irq_init > pirq_peer_trick > .. boom > > This prevents installation on things like older sony Vaio boxes. Someone > broke the handling of machines without PCI between test2 and test3. Is this problem ever going to be fixed? I have tried the install on older versions with the same problem and I can get the system installed, but any pcmcia usage of the cd-rom requires turning pci off. (And it is *real* slow.) Just wondering if it is worth my time. (Since I will have to grab the cd ISOs instead of the DVD one I already have.) It would be nice to me able to use something other than Redhat 7.3 on my Sony Vaio 505ve. (Hacked far beyond warranty.) If I could afford another laptop, I would upgrade. I don't see that happening this year, unless I find different employment. -- "Australia was founded as a penal colony. America was founded as an insane asylum." From zimhat at foou.net Mon May 31 19:55:04 2004 From: zimhat at foou.net (Law Horne) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:55:04 -0500 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 Message-ID: <40BB8D98.8000002@foou.net> > I can suggest to check some simple things.. what is the output > of /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route (you don't have to be root to get > this) > when the network is not working properly? > > As root, does tcpdump show any traffic if you run it on your machine > and ping > your machine from another? > > - -Andy Ok Thanks. Here is the output ifconfig and route. $ ./ifconfig lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:4018 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4018 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:5138658 (4.9 Mb) TX bytes:5138658 (4.9 Mb) $ ./route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo And I could not ping but I try to activate the nic through network-configuration and here is what I got. $ ./tcpdump tcpdump: WARNING: Promiscuous mode not supported on the "any" device tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on any, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture size 96 bytes 14:14:29.692477 :: > ff02::16: HBH icmp6: type-#143 [hlim 1] 14:14:29.881384 :: > ff02::1:ffdd:2822: icmp6: neighbor sol: who has fe80::2e0:1 8ff:fedd:2822 14:14:30.881245 fe80::2e0:18ff:fedd:2822 > ff02::2: icmp6: router solicitation 14:14:34.000927 > 00:e0:18:dd:28:22 0000 344: 0x0000: 4510 0148 0000 0000 1011 a996 0000 0000 E..H............ 0x0010: ffff ffff 0044 0043 0134 79c0 0101 0600 .....D.C.4y..... 0x0020: 2b3c e61f 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 +<.............. 0x0030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 00e0 18dd 2822 0000 ............(".. 0x0040: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ................ 14:14:34.880616 fe80::2e0:18ff:fedd:2822 > ff02::2: icmp6: router solicitation 14:14:38.880008 fe80::2e0:18ff:fedd:2822 > ff02::2: icmp6: router solicitation 14:14:40.000956 > 00:e0:18:dd:28:22 0000 344: 0x0000: 4510 0148 0000 0000 1011 a996 0000 0000 E..H............ 0x0010: ffff ffff 0044 0043 0134 79ba 0101 0600 .....D.C.4y..... 0x0020: 2b3c e61f 0006 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 +<.............. 0x0030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 00e0 18dd 2822 0000 ............(".. 0x0040: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ................ 14:14:55.000715 > 00:e0:18:dd:28:22 0000 344: 0x0000: 4510 0148 0000 0000 1011 a996 0000 0000 E..H............ 0x0010: ffff ffff 0044 0043 0134 fa02 0101 0600 .....D.C.4...... 0x0020: b8b2 da66 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ...f............ 0x0030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 00e0 18dd 2822 0000 ............(".. 0x0040: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ................ 14:15:00.000895 > 00:e0:18:dd:28:22 0000 344: 0x0000: 4510 0148 0000 0000 1011 a996 0000 0000 E..H............ 0x0010: ffff ffff 0044 0043 0134 f9fd 0101 0600 .....D.C.4...... 0x0020: b8b2 da66 0005 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ...f............ 0x0030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 00e0 18dd 2822 0000 ............(".. 0x0040: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ................ 14:15:06.000984 > 00:e0:18:dd:28:22 0000 344: 0x0000: 4510 0148 0000 0000 1011 a996 0000 0000 E..H............ 0x0010: ffff ffff 0044 0043 0134 f9f7 0101 0600 .....D.C.4...... 0x0020: b8b2 da66 000b 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ...f............ 0x0030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 00e0 18dd 2822 0000 ............(".. 0x0040: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ................ 14:15:14.682684 > 00:e0:18:dd:28:22 0000 344: 0x0000: 4510 0148 0000 0000 1011 a996 0000 0000 E..H............ 0x0010: ffff ffff 0044 0043 0134 f9f1 0101 0600 .....D.C.4...... 0x0020: b8b2 da66 0011 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ...f............ 0x0030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 00e0 18dd 2822 0000 ............(".. 0x0040: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ................ 14:15:27.000788 > 00:e0:18:dd:28:22 0000 344: 0x0000: 4510 0148 0000 0000 1011 a996 0000 0000 E..H............ 0x0010: ffff ffff 0044 0043 0134 f9e2 0101 0600 .....D.C.4...... 0x0020: b8b2 da66 0020 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ...f............ 0x0030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 00e0 18dd 2822 0000 ............(".. 0x0040: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ................ 14:15:38.000125 > 00:e0:18:dd:28:22 0000 344: 0x0000: 4510 0148 0000 0000 1011 a996 0000 0000 E..H............ 0x0010: ffff ffff 0044 0043 0134 f9d7 0101 0600 .....D.C.4...... 0x0020: b8b2 da66 002b 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ...f.+.......... 0x0030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 00e0 18dd 2822 0000 ............(".. 0x0040: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ................ 14:15:56.060767 arp who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.103 14:15:57.060115 arp who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.103 14:15:58.059964 arp who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.103 14:15:59.059855 IP 192.168.1.103 > 192.168.1.103: icmp 92: host 192.168.1.1 unreachable 14:15:59.059872 IP 192.168.1.103 > 192.168.1.103: icmp 92: host 192.168.1.1 unreachable 14:15:59.059878 IP 192.168.1.103 > 192.168.1.103: icmp 92: host 192.168.1.1 unreachable I'm not sure what all this means(well other than it's not working) but if someone has ideas I would appreciate it. Thanks Law From alan at redhat.com Mon May 31 20:17:32 2004 From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 16:17:32 -0400 Subject: [Core2Test3] Installation - No Fedora Core CD In-Reply-To: <1086032752.9841.7.camel@zontar.clueserver.org> References: <20040502113923.98081.qmail@web60007.mail.yahoo.com> <20040502124740.GC10494@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1086032752.9841.7.camel@zontar.clueserver.org> Message-ID: <20040531201732.GB25502@devserv.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 12:45:52PM -0700, Alan wrote: > Just wondering if it is worth my time. (Since I will have to grab the > cd ISOs instead of the DVD one I already have.) The pci=off crash was fixed. > It would be nice to me able to use something other than Redhat 7.3 on my > Sony Vaio 505ve. (Hacked far beyond warranty.) RH8/9/FC1/FC2 should all work on it. You need the pci=off just for the initial install to work around the vanishing CD-ROM drive problem. Fixing that requires someone writes IDE controller hot unplugging support for 2.6. That isn't trivial to do although 2.6 finally makes it practicable. Alan From fedora at warmcat.com Mon May 31 20:35:10 2004 From: fedora at warmcat.com (Andy Green) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 21:35:10 +0100 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 In-Reply-To: <40BB8D98.8000002@foou.net> References: <40BB8D98.8000002@foou.net> Message-ID: <200405312135.14451.fedora@warmcat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 31 May 2004 20:55, Law Horne wrote: > $ ./ifconfig > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:4018 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:4018 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:5138658 (4.9 Mb) TX bytes:5138658 (4.9 Mb) > > > $ ./route > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use > Iface > 169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo > 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo Well, if your ethernet device exists (you can check it with ifconfig -a) then the problem is only that there is no IP assigned to the interface (and no default route). If you're okay eth0 will show up in ifconfig -a. If the problem is in the kernel not able to recognize or successfully set up the driver for the device then I have no idea what to do except try the newest kernel. Otherwise, try something like this as root, this shows 192.168.0.123 as your IP and 192.168.0.1 as your default gateway, for example. ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.123 netmask 255.255.255.0 up route add default eth0 route add default gw 192.168.0.1 If that gets you working, my advice ends at sticking that stuff in /etc/rc.local so it happens every boot, but more experienced people may have better suggestions to make it work with the system tools. - -Andy - -- Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players http://warmcat.com/usbautocam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAu5cCjKeDCxMJCTIRAsofAJ9XdEbuuXNF4HuW1p1r0c4m5OmnMwCdHV1g Z8t8MEm7s5Z4yW0MscYMr5U= =TLnH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mike.lurk at sympatico.ca Mon May 31 21:03:57 2004 From: mike.lurk at sympatico.ca (Mike Lurk) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 17:03:57 -0400 Subject: kernel 2.6.6 Message-ID: <1086037437.3221.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message: 3 Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 13:29:50 -0500 From: Law Horne Subject: kernel 2.6.6 To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com Message-ID: <40BA281E.7040303 at foou.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have had trouble getting the 2.6.6 kernels from Arjan's repo to work with my nic. I'm useing the nforce2 ethernet controller. I have even tried the latest(403) out of Arjan's repo. And it worked the first time. I thought I was safe but ever boot after that it cannot ping my router. I have not had a problem with the 2.6.5 kernels at all. I'm not sure what to do to trouble shoot this. And it does not appear that anyone else is having the same problem. I have posted my boot log before but did not get a response. If someone could point me in the direction of what might be needed to resolve this issue I would appreciate it. Thanks Law _______________________________________________________________________ I have had the same problem with the nforce based motherboards. The one thing that I tried was to turn off kudzu and it seems to work. I can connect to the internet and the internal network. Mike From jason at rtfmconsult.com Mon May 31 21:14:51 2004 From: jason at rtfmconsult.com (jason andrade) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 07:14:51 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Aurora-sparc-announce] [ANNOUNCE] Build-1.91 (Code Name Wombat) In-Reply-To: <1085831432.26656.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085831432.26656.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sat, 29 May 2004, Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote: > Now, I have yumified the tree, so if you're feeling really brave, you > can always point yum at it, and try to upgrade that way. A version of > yum for Aurora 1.0 is here: > http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/download/1.0/yum-1.0.3-1_73.noarch.rpm > > If you're a listed mirror site, please sync the build-1.91 directory, > and chime in. The primary directory is currently at: > ftp://auroralinux.org/pub/aurora/build-1.91/ this has been synced in Australia to: ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/aurora/build-1.91/ http://planetmirror.com/pub/aurora/build-1.91/ (RPMS - SRPMS are being synced now) There's no base boot images spot ? so it has to be an upgrade process rather than a fresh install/netboot ? just a note - the directory structure has changed from the 1.0 release. is this the new structure in fedora format ? will the 2.0 release be in the new structure ? i ask because we symlink/script various things and when the structure is not uniform across releases it causes some issues.. regards, -jason From rodney.mckee at eds.com Mon May 31 21:37:41 2004 From: rodney.mckee at eds.com (Rodney McKee) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 07:37:41 +1000 Subject: Core 2 - PANIC Message-ID: <40BBA5A5.30306@eds.com> Recieved journal commit failure running 2.6.6-1.381 System now fails to boot "mkrootdev: label / not found". Can get further into the boot process using "kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.6-1.381 ro root=/dev/hda5 rhgb quiet" but this only gets me to : EXT3-fs: hda7: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (1000100)." <- not sure what they might be. mount: error 22 mounting ext3 I have been trying to get into rescue mode via network (ftp/nfs) but anaconda responds with: ====== Running anaconda, the Fedora Core rescue mode - please wait... File "/usr/bin/anaconda", line 913 xsetup_failed = xserver.startXServer(videohw, monitorhw, mousehw, kbd, ^ IndentationError: unindent does not match any other indentation level install exited abnormally ======= Is their a way I can get this system back to get a better look at logs etc. Where should I be looking for recovery doco etc. Cheers in advance Rodney From pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to Mon May 31 22:21:02 2004 From: pri.rhl2 at iadonisi.to (Paul Iadonisi) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 18:21:02 -0400 Subject: latest vnc missing vnc.so Message-ID: <1086042061.5105.4.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> The latest vnc server package, vnc-server-4.0-1.beta5.4, is missing the vnc.so module. Should this be filed as a separate bug, or as a comment added to http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119530 ? -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets From twaugh at redhat.com Mon May 31 23:01:36 2004 From: twaugh at redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 00:01:36 +0100 Subject: latest vnc missing vnc.so In-Reply-To: <1086042061.5105.4.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> References: <1086042061.5105.4.camel@va.local.linuxlobbyist.org> Message-ID: <20040531230136.GE2489@redhat.com> On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 06:21:02PM -0400, Paul Iadonisi wrote: > The latest vnc server package, vnc-server-4.0-1.beta5.4, is missing > the vnc.so module. Should this be filed as a separate bug, or as a > comment added to > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119530 ? A separate bug please. Which architecture? Tim. */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: