From peter at thecodergeek.com  Wed Oct  1 00:51:41 2008
From: peter at thecodergeek.com (Peter Gordon)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:51:41 -0700
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>

On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:02 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Noticed that Pidgin has been replaced by the crappy not working [segfaulting]
> 100%  cpu load causing piece if shit IM better known as Empathy
> ( Me bitter no well yes.. )

Well that's not very constructive. :)

What specific problems are you having with it? How can they be
reproduced? Please file appropriately detailed bugs on
bugzilla.redhat.com so that we may attempt to fix these issues before
F10-GA if they are truly present. 

Fwiw, I made the choice to switch to Empathy for the F10 beta exactly
for the purposes of testing it and trying to squash any last-minute bugs
in it. Whether or not it will be the default in F10 proper is still
being considered. Likely, it still needs a lot of work in various areas
(see [1]), so we may end up reverting to Pidgin as the default IM
client, then go with Empathy from F11 and onward as circumstances
permit.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
-- 
Peter Gordon (codergeek42) <peter at thecodergeek.com>


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From spowd at bigpond.com  Wed Oct  1 01:18:30 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (greg)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:18:30 +1000
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>  <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
Message-ID: <1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 17:51 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:02 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > Noticed that Pidgin has been replaced by the crappy not working [segfaulting]
> > 100%  cpu load causing piece if shit IM better known as Empathy
> > ( Me bitter no well yes.. )
> 
> Well that's not very constructive. :)
> 
> What specific problems are you having with it? How can they be
> reproduced? Please file appropriately detailed bugs on
> bugzilla.redhat.com so that we may attempt to fix these issues before
> F10-GA if they are truly present. 
> 
> Fwiw, I made the choice to switch to Empathy for the F10 beta exactly
> for the purposes of testing it and trying to squash any last-minute bugs
> in it. Whether or not it will be the default in F10 proper is still
> being considered. Likely, it still needs a lot of work in various areas
> (see [1]), so we may end up reverting to Pidgin as the default IM
> client, then go with Empathy from F11 and onward as circumstances
> permit.
> 
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list

i'd have to agree,, Empathy needs more work on it before it becomes
default IM.whereas Pidgin is near complete, but at the end of the day,
its just as easy to do a 

yum remove empathy
yum install Pidgin

but what i dont understand is why create another IM when you can/could
just improve Pidgin? surely there's Devs out there that could Help the
Pidgin Devs out an improve it than Creating another Instant Messenger 

-- 
Regards Greg 

http://www.fedoraforum.org/?



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 04:53:17 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 06:53:17 +0200
Subject: No graphic login with latest kernel
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0809302150g1bcc787ga2845af737619ad4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0809300613k20d945c8o85cfd639de0c2dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E22A74.8030703@hi.is>
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	<4c4ba1530809301035p6f190c88jde2da2e4cdc99339@mail.gmail.com>
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2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/9/30 Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com>:
>> On 2008-09-30, 18:55 GMT, Antonio M wrote:
>>> 3) I do not understand why only upgrading the kernel I get this
>>> problem of not getting the login screen Ithink the gdm screen)
>>
>> Do you have rhgb somewhere on the kernel command line (i.e., in
>> /boot/grub/menu.lst)? If yes and you remove it from there, does
>> it help?
>>
>> Mat?j
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>  removed rhgb from boot line and any other option...no way, new kerenl
> still doesn't boot.
>
> My Smolt profile is here..
>
> http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_4beba9fc-1cd1-4820-b948-b9ccadcaa15e
> I am using intel driver, not the i810!!! sorry for the confusion. I
> think that i810 and intel driver come from same package, am I
> correct???
>
>
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

and my  graphic adapter is Intel GM965/GL960......what changed in kernels????

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 04:50:40 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 06:50:40 +0200
Subject: No graphic login with latest kernel
In-Reply-To: <m3gar5xu7u.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <4c37b6af0809300613k20d945c8o85cfd639de0c2dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E22A74.8030703@hi.is>
	<4c37b6af0809300644ka629ce6of4b59e1b94ef3365@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c4ba1530809301035p6f190c88jde2da2e4cdc99339@mail.gmail.com>
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	<m3gar5xu7u.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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2008/9/30 Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com>:
> On 2008-09-30, 18:55 GMT, Antonio M wrote:
>> 3) I do not understand why only upgrading the kernel I get this
>> problem of not getting the login screen Ithink the gdm screen)
>
> Do you have rhgb somewhere on the kernel command line (i.e., in
> /boot/grub/menu.lst)? If yes and you remove it from there, does
> it help?
>
> Mat?j
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
 removed rhgb from boot line and any other option...no way, new kerenl
still doesn't boot.

My Smolt profile is here..

http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_4beba9fc-1cd1-4820-b948-b9ccadcaa15e
I am using intel driver, not the i810!!! sorry for the confusion. I
think that i810 and intel driver come from same package, am I
correct???




-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From caf at omen.com  Wed Oct  1 07:34:23 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:34:23 -0700
Subject: e1000e bug - 32 bit, 64 bit or Both?
Message-ID: <48E327FF.10101@omen.com>

Has this corruption appeared on both 32 and 64 bit Linux flavors,
or just one?

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From caf at omen.com  Wed Oct  1 07:44:25 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:44:25 -0700
Subject: Disappearing Firefox
Message-ID: <48E32A59.2090201@omen.com>

32 bit beta on Core Duo dg33bu and ATI 3450

use the Google search window for "presidential whos who".
Within several seconds of references appearing, Firefox
simply disappears.  Restarting Firefox with Restore Session
causes an exit in the same manner.

This is with the 32 bit FC10 beta installed to HD.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From caf at omen.com  Wed Oct  1 07:48:55 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:48:55 -0700
Subject: fc1- beta - still no sound from Intel motherboard audio
Message-ID: <48E32B67.5080704@omen.com>

The mixers are now preset to reasonable values but still
no sound from the Intel ALC888 on the motherboard.
Intel dg33bu and core duo   32 bit fc10 beta

The Creative sound blaster live works again but not
the motherboard audio.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 08:15:42 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:15:42 +0200
Subject: No graphic login with latest kernel
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0809302153y61962683lcd17dc07b0530f61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0809300613k20d945c8o85cfd639de0c2dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E22A74.8030703@hi.is>
	<4c37b6af0809300644ka629ce6of4b59e1b94ef3365@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c4ba1530809301035p6f190c88jde2da2e4cdc99339@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0809301155q7fbf1468xff8aa89322b1a4fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<m3gar5xu7u.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<4c37b6af0809302150g1bcc787ga2845af737619ad4@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0809302153y61962683lcd17dc07b0530f61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810010115g6329de4fw6891f34b08f0b7a6@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/9/30 Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com>:
>>> On 2008-09-30, 18:55 GMT, Antonio M wrote:
>>>> 3) I do not understand why only upgrading the kernel I get this
>>>> problem of not getting the login screen Ithink the gdm screen)
>>>
>>> Do you have rhgb somewhere on the kernel command line (i.e., in
>>> /boot/grub/menu.lst)? If yes and you remove it from there, does
>>> it help?
>>>
>>> Mat?j
>>>
>>> --
>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> To unsubscribe:
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>
>>  removed rhgb from boot line and any other option...no way, new kerenl
>> still doesn't boot.
>>
>> My Smolt profile is here..
>>
>> http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_4beba9fc-1cd1-4820-b948-b9ccadcaa15e
>> I am using intel driver, not the i810!!! sorry for the confusion. I
>> think that i810 and intel driver come from same package, am I
>> correct???
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>
> and my  graphic adapter is Intel GM965/GL960......what changed in kernels????
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

on same machine I booted F9 with kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 with
xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.
After deleting rhgb it worked!!!!.
So at least in F9 it seems that is o.k.
Now I will revert to F10.....

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 08:34:34 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:34:34 +0100
Subject: e1000e bug - 32 bit, 64 bit or Both?
In-Reply-To: <48E327FF.10101@omen.com>
References: <48E327FF.10101@omen.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810010134p38d7c54qd24b0a078460202e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
<caf at omen.com> wrote:
> Has this corruption appeared on both 32 and 64 bit Linux flavors,
> or just one?

There's one driver for both platforms so I suspect it will happen on
both 32 or 64 flavours.

Peter



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 08:34:32 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:34:32 +0200
Subject: No graphic login with latest kernel
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810010115g6329de4fw6891f34b08f0b7a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0809300613k20d945c8o85cfd639de0c2dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E22A74.8030703@hi.is>
	<4c37b6af0809300644ka629ce6of4b59e1b94ef3365@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c4ba1530809301035p6f190c88jde2da2e4cdc99339@mail.gmail.com>
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	<m3gar5xu7u.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810010134p6e099290keeb25225fc9a95cb@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2008/9/30 Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com>:
>>>> On 2008-09-30, 18:55 GMT, Antonio M wrote:
>>>>> 3) I do not understand why only upgrading the kernel I get this
>>>>> problem of not getting the login screen Ithink the gdm screen)
>>>>
>>>> Do you have rhgb somewhere on the kernel command line (i.e., in
>>>> /boot/grub/menu.lst)? If yes and you remove it from there, does
>>>> it help?
>>>>
>>>> Mat?j
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>>> To unsubscribe:
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>>
>>>  removed rhgb from boot line and any other option...no way, new kerenl
>>> still doesn't boot.
>>>
>>> My Smolt profile is here..
>>>
>>> http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_4beba9fc-1cd1-4820-b948-b9ccadcaa15e
>>> I am using intel driver, not the i810!!! sorry for the confusion. I
>>> think that i810 and intel driver come from same package, am I
>>> correct???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>
>>
>> and my  graphic adapter is Intel GM965/GL960......what changed in kernels????
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>
> on same machine I booted F9 with kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 with
> xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.
> After deleting rhgb it worked!!!!.
> So at least in F9 it seems that is o.k.
> Now I will revert to F10.....
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

in Fedora 9 it boots but it completely locks system after a
while....reverted back to xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-24.




-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  1 08:34:54 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:34:54 +0000
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>

greg wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 17:51 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
>   
>> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:02 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>>     
>>> Noticed that Pidgin has been replaced by the crappy not working [segfaulting]
>>> 100%  cpu load causing piece if shit IM better known as Empathy
>>> ( Me bitter no well yes.. )
>>>       
>> Well that's not very constructive. :)
>>
>>     
Indeed it's not but then again switching people's default IM
for a immature and broken one is not playing nice either is it.
   
>> What specific problems are you having with it? How can they be
>> reproduced? Please file appropriately detailed bugs on
>> bugzilla.redhat.com so that we may attempt to fix these issues before
>> F10-GA if they are truly present. 
>>
>>     
Well I'm going to let other testers test this one
Walk to the side line, sit down, crack open a beer
and see the ripples of effect hit the forums and channels...

Encase you are wondering they are present al right...
kernel: telepathy-haze[8063]: segfault at 203a6e7f ip 003ae30a sp 
bfb42d50 error 4....
>> Fwiw, I made the choice to switch to Empathy for the F10 beta exactly
>> for the purposes of testing it and trying to squash any last-minute bugs
>> in it. Whether or not it will be the default in F10 proper is still
>> being considered. Likely, it still needs a lot of work in various areas
>> (see [1]), so we may end up reverting to Pidgin as the default IM
>> client, then go with Empathy from F11 and onward as circumstances
>> permit.
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
>> -- 
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: 
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>     
>
> i'd have to agree,, Empathy needs more work on it before it becomes
> default IM.whereas Pidgin is near complete, but at the end of the day,
> its just as easy to do a 
>
> yum remove empathy
> yum install Pidgin
>
>   
Instead of being forcing new IM down the end users throat,
let the users come to the IM client..

When the IM has something better to offer they will switch...

JBG.

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From spowd at bigpond.com  Wed Oct  1 09:03:53 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (greg)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:03:53 +1000
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
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Message-ID: <1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 08:34 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Instead of being forcing new IM down the end users throat,
> let the users come to the IM client..
> 
> When the IM has something better to offer they will switch...
> 

im all for Pidgin still, dont get me wrong, its like this though , some
of us Like PackageKit,, some dont so they just remove it, simple,, an
your Not being Forced to use Empathy, its like saying Microsoft is
Forcing you to use Windows Live Messenger, there Not, if its Empathy is
Made Default in fedora10, my first thing will be is to remove it an
install Pidgin, .its like Mono to, some hate Mono, some dont mind it,,
its like Beagle, some like it an some remove it, but to say " there
forcing Empathy down our throats is Missleading to say the least. 
-- 
Regards Greg 

http://www.fedoraforum.org/?



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 09:28:28 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:28:28 +0200
Subject: No graphic login with latest kernel
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810010134p6e099290keeb25225fc9a95cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0809300613k20d945c8o85cfd639de0c2dba@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810010228w9fb9339q2586abb2b4740406@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2008/10/1 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> 2008/9/30 Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com>:
>>>>> On 2008-09-30, 18:55 GMT, Antonio M wrote:
>>>>>> 3) I do not understand why only upgrading the kernel I get this
>>>>>> problem of not getting the login screen Ithink the gdm screen)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have rhgb somewhere on the kernel command line (i.e., in
>>>>> /boot/grub/menu.lst)? If yes and you remove it from there, does
>>>>> it help?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mat?j
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>>>> To unsubscribe:
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>>>
>>>>  removed rhgb from boot line and any other option...no way, new kerenl
>>>> still doesn't boot.
>>>>
>>>> My Smolt profile is here..
>>>>
>>>> http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_4beba9fc-1cd1-4820-b948-b9ccadcaa15e
>>>> I am using intel driver, not the i810!!! sorry for the confusion. I
>>>> think that i810 and intel driver come from same package, am I
>>>> correct???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>
>>>
>>> and my  graphic adapter is Intel GM965/GL960......what changed in kernels????
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>
>>
>> on same machine I booted F9 with kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 with
>> xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.
>> After deleting rhgb it worked!!!!.
>> So at least in F9 it seems that is o.k.
>> Now I will revert to F10.....
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>
> in Fedora 9 it boots but it completely locks system after a
> while....reverted back to xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-24.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

using 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 and xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.4.2-8.fc10 it
boot fine but it locks (I can operate a little longer than in F9...let
me say 5 minutes in F9 and about half an hour in F10, running Firefox,
Thunderbird and playing radio streams....)
Never had such a problem with previous
xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-24.fc9.i386 that I think the only reliable
with my hardware.

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  1 10:16:48 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:16:48 +0000
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>
	<1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>
	<1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48E34E10.7050008@hi.is>

greg wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 08:34 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>   
>> Instead of being forcing new IM down the end users throat,
>> let the users come to the IM client..
>>
>> When the IM has something better to offer they will switch...
>>
>>     
>
> im all for Pidgin still, dont get me wrong, its like this though , some
> of us Like PackageKit,, some dont so they just remove it, simple,, an
> your Not being Forced to use Empathy, its like saying Microsoft is
> Forcing you to use Windows Live Messenger, there Not, if its Empathy is
> Made Default in fedora10, my first thing will be is to remove it an
> install Pidgin, .its like Mono to, some hate Mono, some dont mind it,,
> its like Beagle, some like it an some remove it, but to say " there
> forcing Empathy down our throats is Missleading to say the least. 
>   
We are at impasse  :)

I am perfectly aware of how easy it is to replace applications but is your
gram ma or your daughter.

Changing end users IM is a pretty big step and cant be done
just like that.

You have to realize that people are using this for communication every day.

This is as vital to the end user as their web browser,
email client phone and so on. ( Do I dare to say air )

Before this step is taken the IM has to be thoroughly tested
It has to offer something that the other IM does not.
( If it does not why replace it?? )

I say let's some other distro than Fedora be the test platform for Empathy
or .

A.
Let the community vote if Empathy should be the default IM shipped with 
Fedora
( Thats never going to happen )

B.
Hold off shipping Empathy as the default IM with Fedora at least one if 
not 2 release cycle...
( Let it "Mature" then ship it as the default with F11 or F12 )

C. Have both of them part of the default install for F10, F11
( Nothing in the rule book that says we cant have both as part of an 
default install )
and let's revisit this issue during the F12 release cycle
and perhaps make Empathy the default IM for F12.

JBG.
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 10:23:36 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 12:23:36 +0200
Subject: Network issue
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810010323y7156dc54neaddac2e21388b8b@mail.gmail.com>

If I click on Resources/Network I get Network cannot be shown...
 Errore: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did
not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
Selezionare un altro visualizzatore e tentare di nuovo.


Another cyclic issue  :-(
-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  1 10:38:54 2008
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:38:54 +0100
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
Message-ID: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>

I regret to report that this is an abysmal failure on my Acer Travelmate 
laptop.

The display booted and looked fine.  Hovering over the widget for battery 
status/cpu frequency popped up a display.  A right-click on the panel brought 
nothing.  A click on the F menu brought nothing.  I moved back to the widget 
that had first worked, and at that point the mouse pointer froze.  
Ctrl-alt-backspace does nothing, so I suspect that the keyboard is not being 
read either.

Hardware
Pentium M730 cpu
ATi Mobility Radeon X600

didn't get as far as testing network.

Anne
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From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  1 10:49:03 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:49:03 +0000
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
In-Reply-To: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <48E3559F.3020001@hi.is>

Anne Wilson wrote:
> I regret to report that this is an abysmal failure on my Acer Travelmate 
> laptop.
>
> The display booted and looked fine.  Hovering over the widget for battery 
> status/cpu frequency popped up a display.  A right-click on the panel brought 
> nothing.  A click on the F menu brought nothing.  I moved back to the widget 
> that had first worked, and at that point the mouse pointer froze.  
> Ctrl-alt-backspace does nothing, so I suspect that the keyboard is not being 
> read either.
>
> Hardware
> Pentium M730 cpu
> ATi Mobility Radeon X600
>
> didn't get as far as testing network.
>
> Anne
>   
Try booting it with the kernel parameter nomodeset.

Best regards
              JBG
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct  1 10:55:58 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed,  1 Oct 2008 10:55:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081001 changes
Message-ID: <20081001105558.3706F1F825C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

New package elfinfo
        ELF file parser a subset of eu-readelf
New package freedink
        Adventure and role-playing game
New package freedink-data
        Adventure and role-playing game (game data)
New package freedink-dfarc
        Frontend and .dmod installer for GNU FreeDink
New package greadelf
        Wrapper tool for eu-readelf
New package hunspell-be
        Belarusian hunspell dictionaries
New package numptyphysics
        A crayon-drawing based physics puzzle game
New package perl-Wx-Perl-Dialog
        Wx::Perl::Dialog Perl module
New package pypop
        Python for Population Genomics
New package rubber
        An automated system for building LaTeX documents
New package sim
        SIM - Multiprotocol Instant Messenger
Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4022.3.fc10
----------------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> - 1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4022.3
- Fix handling of VPN settings on upgrade (rh #460730, bgo #553465)


NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.0-16.svn4027.fc10
--------------------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 1:0.7.0-16.svn4027
- Fix order of Password TLS certificate choosers (rh #464765)
- Use /usr/lib/rpm/find-lang.sh /builddir/build/BUILDROOT/NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.0-16.svn4027.fc10.ppc for locale-specific files (rh #448551)
- Fix --script-security issues with OpenVPN 2.1-rc9 and later (rh #460754)


PackageKit-0.3.5-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.5-3
- Fix a bug where the daemon could crash when cancelling a lot of transactions.
- Fix installing codecs with a 64 bit machine

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.5-2
- Obsolete more releases of codeina to fix upgrades on rawhide.


bluez-gnome-1.7-1.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.7-1
- Update to 1.7


bodhi-0.5.3-1.fc10
------------------
* Wed Sep 10 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5.3-1
- Latest upstream release

* Wed Sep  3 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5.2-2
- Add the masher deps to BuildRequires, since it now resides
  on the turbogears.extensions entry point and will be
  imported by pkg_resources at build time.

* Wed Sep  3 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5.2-1
- Latest upstream bugfix release

* Fri Aug 29 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5.1-3
- Fix some setuptools issues with our client subpackage

* Mon Aug 25 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5.1-2
- Include the egg-info in the client subpackage.

* Fri Aug 22 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5.1-1
- Latest upstream release


cdparanoia-10.2-2.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 10.2-2
- fix cdda_interface.h C++ incompatibility (patch from upstream) (#463009)


cjkunifonts-0.2.20080216.1-5.fc10
---------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 0.2.20080216.1-5.fc10
- Resolves: rhbz#459680 (Unsymlinked 25-ttf-arphic-uming-bitmaps.conf.)


control-center-2.24.0.1-2.fc10
------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0.1-2
- Fix a schema mistranslation


dhcp-4.0.0-28.fc10
------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 12:4.0.0-28
- Forgot to actually include <errno.h> (#438149)

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 12:4.0.0-27
- Fix patch fuzziness and include errno.h in includes/dhcpd.h (#438149)

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 12:4.0.0-26
- Validate port numbers for dhclient, dhcpd, and dhcrelay to ensure
  that are within the correct range (#438149)


dosfstools-3.0.0-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 3.0.0-1
- update to 3.0.0


esc-1.0.1-11.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.0.1-11
- xulrunner still broken for sparc64

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.0.1-10
- fix esc for sparc/sparc64


gdal-1.5.2-4.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Balint Cristian <rezso at rdsor.ro> - 1.5.2-4
- enable gdal_array for python subpackage
- require numpy


gdm-2.24.0-7.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.0-7
- Make panel slide in initially like the gnome panel

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.0-6
- drop background priority change.  Choppyiness in -3 ended up
  being a bug in gnome-settings-daemon.
- pull patch from upstream to scale face icons with fontsize


gnome-settings-daemon-2.24.0-3.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-3
- Fix the picking up of the gdm keyboard layout


gnucash-2.2.7-1.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 2.2.7-1
- update to 2.2.7


goocanvas-0.10-2.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Bernard Johnson <bjohnson at symetrix.com> - 0.10-2
- demo application does not build; remove it


gvfs-1.0.1-3.fc10
-----------------

hunspell-ca-0.20080918-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.20080918-1
- latest version


hunspell-tn-0.20060123-2.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.20060123-2
- add Botswana alias


hunspell-uk-1.5.5-1.fc10
------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1.5.5-1
- latest version


ibus-0.1.1.20081001-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081001-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081001.


initscripts-8.83-1
------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 8.83-1
- various merge review fixes (#225900)
  Notably: init scripts/network scripts are no longer %config
- remove some extraneous device-mapper initialization
- use pidfile in status before calling pidof (#463205)
- use plymouth directly, not the rhgb-client wrapper
- move bridging after bonding (#449950, <djuran at redhat.com>)
- use alsactl to save sound settings. (#462677, <jkysela at redhat.com>)
- quit plymouth differently (<rstrode at redhat.com>)
- make sure we don't try and spawn a repair shell when there's no
  tty (#463161)
- move udev rules to /lib
- stateless updates (#433702, <harald at redhat.com>)
- call logger with a full path (#447928, <harald at redhat.com>)
- translation updates: as, bn_IN, ca, cz, de, es, fi, fr, gu, it, ja,
  lv, mr, nl, or, pa, pl, pt_BR, ru, te, zh_TW


kdebase-runtime-4.1.2-3.fc10
----------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4.1.2-3
- add missing icons


kdemultimedia-4.1.2-2.fc10
--------------------------
* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.1.2-2
- make VERBOSE=1
- respin against new(er) kde-filesystem

* Fri Sep 26 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.1.2-1
- 4.1.2

* Wed Sep 17 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4.1.1-2
- backport from trunk to fix dragon kpart crash in the embedding application


kernel-2.6.27-0.372.rc8.fc10
----------------------------

kpackagekit-0.1-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Steven M. Parrish <smparrish at shallowcreek.net> 0.1-1
Official 0.1 release

* Sun Aug 24 18:00:00 2008 Steven M. Parrish <smparrish at shallowcreek.net> 0.1-0.3.b4
- Excluded underdevelopment binaries and associated files


libdrm-2.4.0-0.21.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.4.0-0.21
- move intel bufmgr code around - update patches

* Tue Sep  9 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.4.0-0.20
- add gtt mapping for intel modesetting


libgnome-2.24.1-4.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-4
- Fix multilib conflicts with touch


libselinux-2.0.73-1.fc10
------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> - 2.0.73-1
- Update to Upstream
	* New man pages from Dan Walsh.
	* Update flask headers from refpolicy trunk from Dan Walsh.


libsepol-2.0.33-1.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.33-1
- Upgrade to latest from NSA
	* Revert patch that removed expand_rule.


libtasn1-1.5-1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 1.5-1
- updated to new upstream version
- fix license tag
- fix spurious rpath in the tool binaries


lyx-1.6.0-0.9.rc3.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.6.0-0.9.rc3
- lyx-1.6.0rc3


machineball-1.0-6.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Sep 15 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl> 1.0-6
- Rebuild for new ode


mailgraph-1.14-3.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Bernard Johnson <bjohnson at symetrix.com> - 1.14-3
- fix patch fuzz


malaga-suomi-voikko-1.2-0.1.rc1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 - Ville-Pekka Vainio <vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi> 1.2-0.1.rc1
- New release candidate


maniadrive-1.2-10.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Sep 15 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl> 1.2-10
- Rebuild for new ode


nspluginwrapper-1.1.0-9.fc10
----------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Martin Stransky <stransky at redhat.com> 1.1.0-9
- Updated fix for #456432 -(Windowless Crash) Flash 10 w/ Firefox 3


nspr-4.7.1-3.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> - 4.7.1-3
- add sparc64 to the list of 64 bit arches


nss-mdns-0.10-6.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Stepan Kasal <skasal at redhat.com> - 0.10-6
- use sed instead of perl in %post and %preun (#462996),
  fixing two bugs in the scriptlets:
  1) the backup file shall be nsswitch.conf.bak, not nsswitch.confbak
  2) the first element after host: shall be subject to removal, too
- consequently, removed the Requires(..): perl
- removed the reqires for things that are granted
- a better BuildRoot


packagekit-qt-0.1-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Steven M. Parrish <smparrish at shallowcreek.net> 0.1-1
- New upstream release  Official .1 release


pdfedit-0.4.1-2.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Bernard Johnson <bjohnson at symetrix.com> - 0.4.1-2
- fix patch fuzz


perl-PDF-API2-0.69-6.fc10
-------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Bernard Johnson <bjohnson at symetrix.com> - 0.69-6
- fix patch fuzz
- change patch numbering


phonon-4.2.0-7.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4.2.0-7
- fix tranparent issue by convert

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4.2.0-6
- add missing icon


php-pear-PHP-CompatInfo-1.8.1-1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Remi Collet <Fedora at FamilleCollet.com> 1.8.1-1
- update to 1.8.1


php-pear-XML-Parser-1.3.1-1.fc10
--------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Remi Collet <Fedora at FamilleCollet.com> 1.3.1-1
- fix in package.xml (license)


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.09.25.2.fc10
----------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.5.0-0.2008.09.25.2
- Remove mkinitrd requires to break the dep loop and ensure things
  get installed in the right order


ppl-0.9-25.fc10
---------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Roberto Bagnara <bagnara at cs.unipr.it> 0.9-25
- The `swiprolog' package now requires pl >= 5.6.57-2.


python-2.5.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 James Antill <katzj at redhat.com> - 2.5.2-1
- Move to 2.5.2
- Fix CVE-2008-2316 hashlib overflow.


python-pyblock-0.32-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 0.32-1
- Update for libdmraid 1.0.0.rc15 .


python-webob-0.9.3-2.fc10
-------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Ricky Zhou <ricky at fedoraproject.org> 0.9.3-1
- Upstream released new version.

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Ricky Zhou <ricky at fedoraproject.org> 0.9.3-1
- Add BuildRequires on python-tempita.


queuegraph-1.1-4.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Bernard Johnson <bjohnson at symetrix.com> - 1.1-4
- fix patch fuzz


selinux-policy-3.5.9-2.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.9-2
- Change all user tmpfs_t files to be labeled user_tmpfs_t
- Allow radiusd to create sock_files


slrn-0.9.9p1-1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> 0.9.9p1-1
- update to 0.9.9p1


squashfs-tools-3.4-1
--------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 3.4-1
- update to 3.4


subversion-1.5.2-3
------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 1.5.2-3
- enable SASL support (#464267)

* Fri Sep 12 18:00:00 2008 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 1.5.2-2
- update to 1.5.2


vim-7.2.022-1.fc10
------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Karsten Hopp <karsten at redhat.com> 7.2.022-1
- patchlevel 22


wxPython-2.8.9.1-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dan Horak <dan[at]danny.cz> - 2.8.9.1-1
- update to 2.8.9.1
- fix libdir for additional wx libraries (#306761)


xmoto-0.4.2-3.fc10
------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> 0.4.2-3
- Patch for new ode version.


xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.12-5.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 2.1.12-5
- Port Toshiba Tecra M2 NV34 panel tweak to pciaccess


xorg-x11-server-1.5.1-4.fc10
----------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 1.5.1-4
- fix typo. :P

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 1.5.1-3
- add xvfb-run helper script to Xvfb package


zabbix-1.6-1.1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 1.6-1.1
- Bump release because forgot to add some new files.

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 1.6-1
- Update to final 1.6


Summary:
Added Packages: 11
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 61
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	ant-manual-1.7.1-7.1.fc10.i386 requires perl(the)
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.i386 requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libdlm.so.2
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	python-docs-2.5.1-2.fc9.noarch requires python = 0:2.5.1
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	stormbaancoureur-2.1.4-1.fc10.i386 requires libode.so.0



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	ant-manual-1.7.1-7.1.fc10.x86_64 requires perl(the)
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.x86_64 requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.x86_64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.x86_64 requires libcman.so.2()(64bit)
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.x86_64 requires libdlm.so.2()(64bit)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	python-docs-2.5.1-2.fc9.noarch requires python = 0:2.5.1
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	stormbaancoureur-2.1.4-1.fc10.x86_64 requires libode.so.0()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	ant-manual-1.7.1-7.1.fc10.ppc requires perl(the)
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.ppc requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libdlm.so.2
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	python-docs-2.5.1-2.fc9.noarch requires python = 0:2.5.1
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libopcodes-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libbfd-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so
	stormbaancoureur-2.1.4-1.fc10.ppc requires libode.so.0



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	ant-manual-1.7.1-7.1.fc10.ppc64 requires perl(the)
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	livecd-tools-018-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libcman.so.2()(64bit)
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libdlm.so.2()(64bit)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	python-docs-2.5.1-2.fc9.noarch requires python = 0:2.5.1
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	stormbaancoureur-2.1.4-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libode.so.0()(64bit)





From berrange at redhat.com  Wed Oct  1 11:03:26 2008
From: berrange at redhat.com (Daniel P. Berrange)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 12:03:26 +0100
Subject: rawhide report: 20081001 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081001105558.3706F1F825C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
References: <20081001105558.3706F1F825C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081001110326.GK26567@redhat.com>

On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:55:58AM +0000, Rawhide Report wrote:
> 
> Summary:
> Added Packages: 11
> Removed Packages: 0
> Modified Packages: 61
> Broken deps for i386
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
> 	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
> 	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
> 	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
> 	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
> 	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
> 	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0

What's going on with this package ?  In CVS devel/ it has just been
removed  with a terse commit message "Marking pyclutter as dead.package",
but it is not orphaned in pkgdb. Was it killed because it not longer works
with clutter / not maintained upstream, or because the Fedora maintainer
lost interest, or something else ? In any case if it is not going to be
resurrected, the F9 packages need to be blocked from rawhide repos since
their deps are  no longer satisfied, and i guess orphaned in pkgdb

Daniel
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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  1 11:33:15 2008
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 12:33:15 +0100
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
In-Reply-To: <48E3559F.3020001@hi.is>
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<48E3559F.3020001@hi.is>
Message-ID: <200810011233.15840.cannewilson@googlemail.com>

On Wednesday 01 October 2008 11:49:03 J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I regret to report that this is an abysmal failure on my Acer Travelmate
> > laptop.
> >
> > The display booted and looked fine.  Hovering over the widget for battery
> > status/cpu frequency popped up a display.  A right-click on the panel
> > brought nothing.  A click on the F menu brought nothing.  I moved back to
> > the widget that had first worked, and at that point the mouse pointer
> > froze. Ctrl-alt-backspace does nothing, so I suspect that the keyboard is
> > not being read either.
> >
> > Hardware
> > Pentium M730 cpu
> > ATi Mobility Radeon X600
> >
> > didn't get as far as testing network.
> >
> > Anne
>
> Try booting it with the kernel parameter nomodeset.
>
Yes, that seems to have cured it.  What exactly is that doing?

During the boot message the only thing I saw which may explain what was going 
on was

ACPI:EC:GPI Storm detected, disabling EC GPE

My wifi connection accepted configuring (WPA+PSK) and works.

Sound was disabled, but appeared to accept enabling.  Just one mixer channel 
was shown.  Attempting to play a sound om Dragon Player resulted in 
KDE-Im-Connection-Lost - and silence.

Fonts in dolphin are very "dotty"

Anything else you'd like to to try?

Anne

Any

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From nathelbiya at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 11:41:58 2008
From: nathelbiya at gmail.com (Niels Weber)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 13:41:58 +0200
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E34E10.7050008@hi.is>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>
	<1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E34E10.7050008@hi.is>
Message-ID: <44cd968e0810010441q7ff86e25p4303ebec0bbe55f9@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/1 "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" <johannbg at hi.is>:
> I am perfectly aware of how easy it is to replace applications but is your
> gram ma or your daughter.

Your grandma and your daughter shouldn't betatest distributions then...

Niels



From gnomeuser at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 11:54:05 2008
From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 13:54:05 +0200
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
Message-ID: <1dedbbfc0810010454h51ee0677h119a35f024df7368@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/1 Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com>

> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:02 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> > Noticed that Pidgin has been replaced by the crappy not working
> [segfaulting]
> > 100%  cpu load causing piece if shit IM better known as Empathy
> > ( Me bitter no well yes.. )
>
> Well that's not very constructive. :)
>
> What specific problems are you having with it? How can they be
> reproduced? Please file appropriately detailed bugs on
> bugzilla.redhat.com so that we may attempt to fix these issues before
> F10-GA if they are truly present.
>
> Fwiw, I made the choice to switch to Empathy for the F10 beta exactly
> for the purposes of testing it and trying to squash any last-minute bugs
> in it. Whether or not it will be the default in F10 proper is still
> being considered. Likely, it still needs a lot of work in various areas
> (see [1]), so we may end up reverting to Pidgin as the default IM
> client, then go with Empathy from F11 and onward as circumstances
> permit.
>
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
>

I for one really enjoy Empathy, I have used it for all my im'ing need since
it first entered Fedora. Except the webcam support in msn for which amsn is
still the only game in town but not for long.
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  1 12:06:15 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:06:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by
	package ...
Message-ID: <455895.20487.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers,

I am having trouble with libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 to update, I have to skip it to get the updates.  I do not remember seeing this in the rawhide report.  On the other computer the updates came in successfully, but on this one it did not happen.  

Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package dmraid-libs.i386 0:1.0.0.rc15-1.fc10 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 for package: python-pyblock
--> Processing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) for package: python-pyblock
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)

Anyone know a workaround, or the next update will fix this.  

Thanks,

Antonio


      



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  1 12:09:05 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:09:05 +0000
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
In-Reply-To: <200810011233.15840.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>	<48E3559F.3020001@hi.is>
	<200810011233.15840.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <48E36861.6060706@hi.is>

Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 October 2008 11:49:03 J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
>   
>> Anne Wilson wrote:
>>     
>>> I regret to report that this is an abysmal failure on my Acer Travelmate
>>> laptop.
>>>
>>> The display booted and looked fine.  Hovering over the widget for battery
>>> status/cpu frequency popped up a display.  A right-click on the panel
>>> brought nothing.  A click on the F menu brought nothing.  I moved back to
>>> the widget that had first worked, and at that point the mouse pointer
>>> froze. Ctrl-alt-backspace does nothing, so I suspect that the keyboard is
>>> not being read either.
>>>
>>> Hardware
>>> Pentium M730 cpu
>>> ATi Mobility Radeon X600
>>>
>>> didn't get as far as testing network.
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>       
>> Try booting it with the kernel parameter nomodeset.
>>
>>     
> Yes, that seems to have cured it.  What exactly is that doing?
>   
Turning of kernel mode setting ( KMS )

There have been some issue with some ATI cards with certain chip sets
Developers are taking a closer look what's causing this.

If you want to get up to speed on the status of the KMS take a look at
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xorg_kms_2008&num=1

You can just go through basic testing procedure if you have the
Does every app work.
Are the any icons missing.
Does bluetooth work ( If you have a bluetooth )
Install to usb ( if you have one )
Install to HD ( if you can )
Go through the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/FeatureList
To see if you can test feature listed there are working.
And so on.

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From pedrofsilva at netcabo.pt  Wed Oct  1 12:14:04 2008
From: pedrofsilva at netcabo.pt (Pedro Silva)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:14:04 +0100
Subject: Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed
	by package ...
In-Reply-To: <455895.20487.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <455895.20487.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1222863244.3009.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Qua, 2008-10-01 ?s 05:06 -0700, Antonio Olivares escreveu:
> Dear fellow testers,
> 
> I am having trouble with libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 to update, I have to skip it to get the updates.  I do not remember seeing this in the rawhide report.  On the other computer the updates came in successfully, but on this one it did not happen.  
> 
> Setting up Update Process
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package dmraid-libs.i386 0:1.0.0.rc15-1.fc10 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 for package: python-pyblock
> --> Processing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) for package: python-pyblock
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> 
> Anyone know a workaround, or the next update will fix this.  
> 

koji already built a new version of python-pyblock, wait for it to reach
the mirrors :)

Best regards,

Pedro Silva
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  1 12:30:41 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:30:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by
	package ...
In-Reply-To: <455895.20487.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <807294.39227.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by package ...
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 5:06 AM
> Dear fellow testers,
> 
> I am having trouble with libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 to update,
> I have to skip it to get the updates.  I do not remember
> seeing this in the rawhide report.  On the other computer
> the updates came in successfully, but on this one it did not
> happen.  
> 
> Setting up Update Process
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package dmraid-libs.i386 0:1.0.0.rc15-1.fc10 set to
> be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 for
> package: python-pyblock
> --> Processing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base)
> for package: python-pyblock
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has depsolving
> problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base)
> is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has depsolving
> problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is
> needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) is
> needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is
> needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> 
> Anyone know a workaround, or the next update will fix this.
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Antonio
> 
> 
>       
> 
> -- 


Alright on Rawhide report 20080930, it was there :)


Summary:
Added Packages: 9
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 72
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
    ant-manual-1.7.1-7.1.fc10.i386 requires perl(the)
    beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.i386 requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
    gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
    lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libcman.so.2
    lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libdlm.so.2
    machineball-1.0-5.fc9.i386 requires libode.so.0
    ppl-swiprolog-0.9-24.fc10.i386 requires libpl.so.5.6.57
    pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
    pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
    pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
    pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
    pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
    pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
    pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
-->    python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 requires libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base)
-->    python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 requires libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14
    raydium-1.2-9.fc10.i386 requires libode.so.0
    ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
    ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
    ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
    ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
    stormbaancoureur-2.1.4-1.fc10.i386 requires libode.so.0
    xmoto-0.4.2-2.fc10.i386 requires libode.so.0

Sorry, but for today it is not there, I hope that I can update it this time!

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From pedrofsilva at netcabo.pt  Wed Oct  1 12:50:05 2008
From: pedrofsilva at netcabo.pt (Pedro Silva)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:50:05 +0100
Subject: Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed
	by package ...
In-Reply-To: <807294.39227.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <807294.39227.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1222865405.7404.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Qua, 2008-10-01 ?s 05:30 -0700, Antonio Olivares escreveu:

> 
> Alright on Rawhide report 20080930, it was there :)
> 

today's rawhide report:

python-pyblock-0.32-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 0.32-1
- Update for libdmraid 1.0.0.rc15 .

Best regards,

Pedro Silva
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From sgrubb at redhat.com  Wed Oct  1 12:53:58 2008
From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:53:58 -0400
Subject: Fedora QA Meeting for this week - moved!
In-Reply-To: <1222813829.3518.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1222813829.3518.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200810010853.58553.sgrubb@redhat.com>

On Tuesday 30 September 2008 18:30:29 Will Woods wrote:
> - Any features that will need close attention between now and Preview?

This is not a Fedora Feature (yet) but it is something we are curious 
about...libgcrypt has been updated to support FIPS-140-2. The way that we've 
worked things to enable FIPS mode is to add a fips=1 to the grub kernel boot 
params. However, that is not scheduled to be in a kernel until 2.6.28 (we 
wished the Fedora 10 kernel were patched so deeper testing could be done). In 
the meantime, libgcrypt in rawhide/F-10 does have a way of forcing the FIPS 
mode:

touch /etc/gcrypt/fips140.force

This causes it to disable certain non-FIPS approved algorithms and enable 
startup and continuous cryptographic tests. Any problems in applications will 
be noted in syslog. We know that FIPS mode breaks gnutls and everything 
linked to it. We don't know what else is potentially broken. 

We need every application linked to libgcrypt to either work as advertised or 
output a reasonable error message saying why it doesn't work - iow it depends 
exclusively on algorthims or keysizes that are forbidden by FIPS. The docs 
for gcrypt have been updated and explains in a lot more detail how things 
work (also required for FIPS). So, that should help fix apps.

This is not mandatory to be working at F-10 release since the kernel support 
is still way off in the future. (We'll probablys start a F-11 feature page 
for this soon.) I expect a fair amount of breakage and would like a head 
start on making things work. No one should see any ill effects when not in 
FIPS mode, which is the way we expect everyone to run today.

Thanks,
-Steve



From tom.greaser at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 13:42:55 2008
From: tom.greaser at gmail.com (Tom G)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:42:55 -0400
Subject: Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by
	package ...
In-Reply-To: <455895.20487.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <455895.20487.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2d25554e0810010642w4e5b9ffeh855753af82fad2a3@mail.gmail.com>

I just removed the  python-pyblock  it takes andaconda with it
then did the yum update

its still going on.. but once done i want to see if can re install both packages


On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Antonio Olivares
<olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
>
> I am having trouble with libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 to update, I have to skip it to get the updates.  I do not remember seeing this in the rawhide report.  On the other computer the updates came in successfully, but on this one it did not happen.
>
> Setting up Update Process
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package dmraid-libs.i386 0:1.0.0.rc15-1.fc10 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 for package: python-pyblock
> --> Processing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) for package: python-pyblock
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
>  --> Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
>  --> Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
>
> Anyone know a workaround, or the next update will fix this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
> --
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
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From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Wed Oct  1 14:00:41 2008
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:00:41 -0500
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<48E3559F.3020001@hi.is>
	<200810011233.15840.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <gbvvq9$b96$1@ger.gmane.org>

Anne Wilson wrote:

> On Wednesday 01 October 2008 11:49:03 J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:

>> > Hardware
>> > Pentium M730 cpu
>> > ATi Mobility Radeon X600
>> > didn't get as far as testing network.

>> Try booting it with the kernel parameter nomodeset.

> Yes, that seems to have cured it.  What exactly is that doing?

Not exactly the same, but the same ballpark:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464896

-- Rex



From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  1 14:11:43 2008
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:11:43 +0100
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
In-Reply-To: <gbvvq9$b96$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<200810011233.15840.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<gbvvq9$b96$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200810011511.48975.cannewilson@googlemail.com>

On Wednesday 01 October 2008 15:00:41 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 01 October 2008 11:49:03 J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> >> > Hardware
> >> > Pentium M730 cpu
> >> > ATi Mobility Radeon X600
> >> > didn't get as far as testing network.
> >>
> >> Try booting it with the kernel parameter nomodeset.
> >
> > Yes, that seems to have cured it.  What exactly is that doing?
>
> Not exactly the same, but the same ballpark:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464896
>
Interesting.  That says Radeon x300-x500 and mine is an x600 - could well be 
related.  However, I did get much further than Rolf reported.

I think it very likely, though that there is a relationship.  I'll just add to 
the report that x600 is probably also affected by this

Anne
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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  1 14:18:47 2008
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:18:47 +0100
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
In-Reply-To: <48E36861.6060706@hi.is>
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<200810011233.15840.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<48E36861.6060706@hi.is>
Message-ID: <200810011518.47855.cannewilson@googlemail.com>

On Wednesday 01 October 2008 13:09:05 J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> You can just go through basic testing procedure if you have the
> Does every app work.
> Are the any icons missing.
> Does bluetooth work ( If you have a bluetooth )
> Install to usb ( if you have one )
> Install to HD ( if you can )
> Go through the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/FeatureList
> To see if you can test feature listed there are working.
> And so on.

Most things seem to work, but I did find some problems.

I couldn't get any sound from opening test files with available applications.  
Since this is the live CD I couldn't test cd playing.

system-config-printer appeared to set up my printer - HP Photosmart C7180 with 
duplexer - but print test page reported an unspecified error.  Attempting to 
print a gif from gwenview appeared to complete - and was reported as 
complete - but there was no output.

kftpgrabber imported my gftp bookmarks, but I was not able to make a 
connection

Finally, "SELinux is preventing restorecon (setfiles_t) "read write" 
unconfined_t"

I don't know how many of these are to be expected in a live distribution.

HTH

Anne
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From ajax at redhat.com  Wed Oct  1 14:41:19 2008
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:41:19 -0400
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1222872079.17250.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:02 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:

> Also noticed that s-c-d had been removed from the default install.
> 
> Now if only xrandr could show which graphics drivers is being used 
> *hint* *hint*

Why?

- ajax



From idht4n at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 14:43:46 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 07:43:46 -0700
Subject: f10beta hard drive install
Message-ID: <b79371120810010743m4dba1f1q90fc8bd4599e3c3d@mail.gmail.com>

I tried to do a hard drive install of f10beta but could not get it to work.
It's possible I'm doing something stupid though.  Here's what I tried:

I always have problems with burning CDs and DVDs, so I don't bother
even trying anymore... since I'm doing a hard drive install and have
a working grub on my hard drive, I have just added an "install f10"
option to grub.  I did this by loopback mounting the DVD image
and copying isolinux/initrd.img and isolinux/vmlinuz to /boot.  Then
I modified grub to point to those files:

title Fedora 10
Install

        root
(hd0,5)

        kernel /boot/vmlinuz.install ro
root=UUID=b65d5932-9eb3-4013-5d48-7e2420b78253 askmethod
        initrd /boot/initrd.img

It seems like it's working, but then when I tell it to do a hard drive
install and where the install image directory is, it says it can't find it.
I hit Alt-F[2-7] and found a message implying it was looking for a
file named install.img in the install image directory.  But I'm sure
I've never put a file named install.img in that directory.  Do I need
to rename Fedora-10-Beta-i386-DVD.iso to install.img?  With older
releases, hard drive installs automagically found the iso file.

So am I doing something wrong or are hard drive installs broken?

Thanks,

                        David
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From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 14:50:33 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:50:33 -0400
Subject: F10 Beta test results
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810010750t6095df5btf963adebbb80dd1f@mail.gmail.com>

Here are my observations on F10 Beta...
(Before reading my observations, I'll cut to the chase
and declare F10 (with KDE) still completely unusable... for me)

--------------------------------------------------------------------
During initial installation I chose to 'test the media' since k3b
reported an 'unable to verify, because we couldn't find a track' error...

The DVD successfully tested OK, but then would not let me
continue the installation process... constantly asking me for
installation media.

I rebooted and bypassed the media test to continue the installation.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

During installation, it asks you what package groups you want installed
and also if you want to install other packages or check other repositories
(I can't remember the actual option name)
But then it wants to go out to the net to do it.
It pops up a dialog asking you to select the interface to use.
(In my case it was the onboard Intel 3945 wireless.
It attempted to make a connection, but failed.  I tried twice before
I gave up and avoided the situation.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
After installation and a 'yum update' I still get
(Note I used '--exclude=ant-manual' to update the other ~600 packages..)

[root at localhost fulko]# yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package ant-manual.i386 0:1.7.1-7.1.fc10 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: ant-manual
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
ant-manual-1.7.1-7.1.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: perl(the) is needed by package
ant-manual-1.7.1-7.1.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(the) is needed by package
ant-manual-1.7.1-7.1.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
[root at localhost fulko]#

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

My favourite complaint (mentioned in an email a few weeks ago...
You are prevented from logging in as root from the graphical login (gdm?)

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Logging in with KDE selected fails.

a) it seems to never finish.
b) the task bar is either too small ~40 pixels high)l, or the tasklets do
not
   know how to accomodate a small task bar, and do not position themselves
   so that they are reachable/clickable.
c) The notification popups position themselves too low on the screen and
   are typically cut off on the bootom so they are unreadable.
d) Only on one try (out of 4) was the KDE menu icon actually clickable,
    but then after presentation, nothing else was clickable.
e) on another attempt starting KDE wedged with 'what looked like a usable
desktop'
   but the 'KDE' icon from the startup splash panel was the only thing
visisble
   on the desktop.  No other functionality seemed to work
f) on another attempt at starting KDE, the 'startup sound' was broken-up.
   ... and the desktop was still unusable.
g) during an attempt to diagnose issues I flipped to text screen F1, and
then back
   to KDE.  The graphical screen was redrawn as with a white background
  and the battery tasklet only.

In the end, I have never yet been able to successfully use KDE for _any_
functionality
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Fulko
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From clumens at redhat.com  Wed Oct  1 14:53:49 2008
From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:53:49 -0400
Subject: f10beta hard drive install
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810010743m4dba1f1q90fc8bd4599e3c3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810010743m4dba1f1q90fc8bd4599e3c3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081001145349.GA22917@localhost.localdomain>

> It seems like it's working, but then when I tell it to do a hard drive
> install and where the install image directory is, it says it can't find it.
> I hit Alt-F[2-7] and found a message implying it was looking for a
> file named install.img in the install image directory.  But I'm sure
> I've never put a file named install.img in that directory.  Do I need
> to rename Fedora-10-Beta-i386-DVD.iso to install.img?  With older
> releases, hard drive installs automagically found the iso file.

>From https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464836:

No, it doesn't need to be renamed.  What you need to do is either:

(1) Grab the install.img from within the ISO image or from the download
site, and place it into an images/ directory at the same level as your
ISO images; or

(2) Boot from the boot.iso.

This is a change from F9, but it is described in the anaconda
documentation at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options

(I've also just updated that documentation to change stage2.img ->
install.img, which was a fairly recent change in anaconda).

- Chris



From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  1 15:16:38 2008
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:16:38 +0100
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
In-Reply-To: <200810011518.47855.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<48E36861.6060706@hi.is>
	<200810011518.47855.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <200810011616.38414.cannewilson@googlemail.com>

On Wednesday 01 October 2008 15:18:47 Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 October 2008 13:09:05 J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> > You can just go through basic testing procedure if you have the
> > Does every app work.
> > Are the any icons missing.
> > Does bluetooth work ( If you have a bluetooth )
> > Install to usb ( if you have one )
> > Install to HD ( if you can )
> > Go through the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/FeatureList
> > To see if you can test feature listed there are working.
> > And so on.
>
> Most things seem to work, but I did find some problems.
>
> I couldn't get any sound from opening test files with available
> applications. Since this is the live CD I couldn't test cd playing.
>
> system-config-printer appeared to set up my printer - HP Photosmart C7180
> with duplexer - but print test page reported an unspecified error. 
> Attempting to print a gif from gwenview appeared to complete - and was
> reported as complete - but there was no output.
>
> kftpgrabber imported my gftp bookmarks, but I was not able to make a
> connection
>
> Finally, "SELinux is preventing restorecon (setfiles_t) "read write"
> unconfined_t"
>
> I don't know how many of these are to be expected in a live distribution.
>
One other problem to report - Neither Restart nor Shutdown worked from the 
menu.

Anne


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From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  1 15:29:28 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:29:28 +0000
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <1222872079.17250.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>
	<1222872079.17250.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48E39758.4000804@hi.is>

Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:02 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>
>   
>> Also noticed that s-c-d had been removed from the default install.
>>
>> Now if only xrandr could show which graphics drivers is being used 
>> *hint* *hint*
>>     
>
> Why?
>
> - ajax
>
>   
Cool to have.
xrand  --xinfo which would show the X settings.

Then again there is nothing stopping the user from parsing the X log file
and get the info from there.

jbg


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From idht4n at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 15:35:15 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:35:15 -0700
Subject: f10beta hard drive install
In-Reply-To: <20081001145349.GA22917@localhost.localdomain>
References: <b79371120810010743m4dba1f1q90fc8bd4599e3c3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081001145349.GA22917@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <b79371120810010835u63c32443t3d2b87956ef1e451@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> wrote:

> > It seems like it's working, but then when I tell it to do a hard drive
> > install and where the install image directory is, it says it can't find
> it.
> > I hit Alt-F[2-7] and found a message implying it was looking for a
> > file named install.img in the install image directory.  But I'm sure
> > I've never put a file named install.img in that directory.  Do I need
> > to rename Fedora-10-Beta-i386-DVD.iso to install.img?  With older
> > releases, hard drive installs automagically found the iso file.
>
> From https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464836:
>
> No, it doesn't need to be renamed.  What you need to do is either:
>
> (1) Grab the install.img from within the ISO image or from the download
> site, and place it into an images/ directory at the same level as your
> ISO images; or
>
Thanks for the quick response.

I tried this and changed from askmethod to repo=hd:sda7/f10 .

Now I get a segfault.

loader received SIGSEGV! Backtrace:
/sbin/loader (loader SegvHandler+0xa0) [0x804fd20]
[0x132400]
/lib/libc.so.6(strlen+0xb)
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  1 15:40:05 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:40:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by
	package ...
In-Reply-To: <2d25554e0810010642w4e5b9ffeh855753af82fad2a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <636022.34594.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Tom G <tom.greaser at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Tom G <tom.greaser at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is needed by package ...
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:42 AM
> I just removed the  python-pyblock  it takes andaconda with
> it
> then did the yum update
> 
> its still going on.. but once done i want to see if can re
> install both packages
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Antonio Olivares
> <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dear fellow testers,
> >
> > I am having trouble with libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 to
> update, I have to skip it to get the updates.  I do not
> remember seeing this in the rawhide report.  On the other
> computer the updates came in successfully, but on this one
> it did not happen.
> >
> > Setting up Update Process
> > Resolving Dependencies
> > --> Running transaction check
> > ---> Package dmraid-libs.i386 0:1.0.0.rc15-1.fc10
> set to be updated
> > --> Processing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14
> for package: python-pyblock
> > --> Processing Dependency:
> libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) for package: python-pyblock
> > --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> > python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has
> depsolving problems
> >  --> Missing Dependency:
> libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) is needed by package
> python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> > python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 from installed has
> depsolving problems
> >  --> Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is
> needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> > Error: Missing Dependency:
> libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14(Base) is needed by package
> python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> > Error: Missing Dependency: libdmraid.so.1.0.0.rc14 is
> needed by package python-pyblock-0.31-4.i386 (installed)
> >
> > Anyone know a workaround, or the next update will fix
> this.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Antonio
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --

I got them today :)  yum update -y worked and I got all today's updates

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From clumens at redhat.com  Wed Oct  1 15:50:36 2008
From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:50:36 -0400
Subject: f10beta hard drive install
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810010835u63c32443t3d2b87956ef1e451@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810010743m4dba1f1q90fc8bd4599e3c3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081001145349.GA22917@localhost.localdomain>
	<b79371120810010835u63c32443t3d2b87956ef1e451@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081001155036.GB22917@localhost.localdomain>

> I tried this and changed from askmethod to repo=hd:sda7/f10 .
> 
> Now I get a segfault.
> 
> loader received SIGSEGV! Backtrace:
> /sbin/loader (loader SegvHandler+0xa0) [0x804fd20]
> [0x132400]
> /lib/libc.so.6(strlen+0xb)

Can you attach the full thing, or at least the next couple lines?  We
call strlen a lot of places in the loader.

- Chris



From idht4n at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 16:11:09 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 12:11:09 -0400
Subject: misc problems with f10beta live USB
Message-ID: <b79371120810010911g13c9651fmb2f8c29c33cbbc28@mail.gmail.com>

Here are a few miscellaneous problem I noticed with
f10beta live USB.  I tried to have a persistent overlay,
but while booting, I noticed a message
"Unable to find persistent overlay".

After booting, alsamixer doesn't work for me:

[fedora at localhost ~]$ alsamixer
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
ALSA lib pulse.c:266:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
Connection refused


alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection refused

I've always had problems with PulseAudio, so I tried to remove it:

yum remove pulseaudio
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Remove Process
Could not retrieve mirrorlist
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=i386 error was
[Errno 4] IOError: <urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')>
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
rawhide. Please verify its path and try again

______

System->Preferences->Hardware->Sound ->Test Sound Capture:
gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat:
Could not open audio device for recording.

_______


[fedora at localhost ~]$ totem
Segmentation fault


[fedora at localhost ~]$ totem
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
The program 'totem' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
  (Details: serial 46 error_code 11 request_code 140 minor_code 19)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
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From kevin at scrye.com  Wed Oct  1 16:36:11 2008
From: kevin at scrye.com (Kevin Fenzi)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:36:11 -0600
Subject: rawhide report: 20081001 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081001110326.GK26567@redhat.com>
References: <20081001105558.3706F1F825C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<20081001110326.GK26567@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081001103611.7f2a21dc@ohm.scrye.com>

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 12:03:26 +0100
berrange at redhat.com ("Daniel P. Berrange") wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:55:58AM +0000, Rawhide Report wrote:
> > 
> > Summary:
> > Added Packages: 11
> > Removed Packages: 0
> > Modified Packages: 61
> > Broken deps for i386
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > 	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
> > 	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires
> > libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0 pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires
> > libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0 pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires
> > libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0 pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires
> > libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0 pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires
> > libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0 pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires
> > libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
> 
> What's going on with this package ?  In CVS devel/ it has just been
> removed  with a terse commit message "Marking pyclutter as
> dead.package", but it is not orphaned in pkgdb. Was it killed because
> it not longer works with clutter / not maintained upstream, or
> because the Fedora maintainer lost interest, or something else ? In
> any case if it is not going to be resurrected, the F9 packages need
> to be blocked from rawhide repos since their deps are  no longer
> satisfied, and i guess orphaned in pkgdb

The maintainer looks to have marked it as a dead package, but not
followed all the steps in doing so. I sent them an email asking for
them to complete the steps. 

You can mail them and ask for more details on why they are marking it a
dead package if you like. 

> 
> Daniel

kevin
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From keith at karsites.net  Wed Oct  1 16:40:01 2008
From: keith at karsites.net (Keith Roberts)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:40:01 +0100 (BST)
Subject: SysLinux version please?
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810011739100.3812@www.karsites.net>

Can anyone tell me what version of SysLinux F10 Beta ships 
with please?

Kind Regards,

Keith Roberts

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From idht4n at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 16:44:39 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:44:39 -0700
Subject: f10beta hard drive install
In-Reply-To: <20081001155036.GB22917@localhost.localdomain>
References: <b79371120810010743m4dba1f1q90fc8bd4599e3c3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081001145349.GA22917@localhost.localdomain>
	<b79371120810010835u63c32443t3d2b87956ef1e451@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081001155036.GB22917@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <b79371120810010944r4ec932d0w33689ee4e5441c01@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> wrote:

> > I tried this and changed from askmethod to repo=hd:sda7/f10 .
> >
> > Now I get a segfault.
> >
> > loader received SIGSEGV! Backtrace:
> > /sbin/loader (loader SegvHandler+0xa0) [0x804fd20]
> > [0x132400]
> > /lib/libc.so.6(strlen+0xb)
>

> Can you attach the full thing, or at least the next couple lines?  We
> call strlen a lot of places in the loader.


loader 804fd20
132400
libc 41320b
libc 3debb6
libc 498f81
loader 80538c4
loader 805392f
loader 805f7ad
loader 8051153
libc 3b16e5
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From sandeen at redhat.com  Wed Oct  1 16:53:06 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:53:06 -0500
Subject: SysLinux version please?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810011739100.3812@www.karsites.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810011739100.3812@www.karsites.net>
Message-ID: <48E3AAF2.4070208@redhat.com>

Keith Roberts wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what version of SysLinux F10 Beta ships 
> with please?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Keith Roberts

A search on koji:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=429

would indicate that it's 3.61

-Eric



From michal at harddata.com  Wed Oct  1 17:03:36 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:03:36 -0600
Subject: e1000e bug - 32 bit, 64 bit or Both?
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810010134p38d7c54qd24b0a078460202e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48E327FF.10101@omen.com>
	<5256d0b0810010134p38d7c54qd24b0a078460202e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081001170336.GB18506@mail.harddata.com>

On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 09:34:34AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
> <caf at omen.com> wrote:
> > Has this corruption appeared on both 32 and 64 bit Linux flavors,
> > or just one?
> 
> There's one driver for both platforms so I suspect it will happen on
> both 32 or 64 flavours.

AFAIK reasons for the problem are still unknown but reports of
corruption presumably come so far from 64-bit machines.  It appears
that some race is involved so it may be that its window is easier to
hit with 64 bits?

   Michal



From peter at thecodergeek.com  Wed Oct  1 17:11:25 2008
From: peter at thecodergeek.com (Peter Gordon)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:11:25 -0700
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E34E10.7050008@hi.is>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>
	<1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E34E10.7050008@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1222881085.3464.10.camel@tuxhugs>

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:16 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> I am perfectly aware of how easy it is to replace applications but is your
> gram ma or your daughter.
> 

Beta and pre-releases in general are not usually suited to these types
of users anyway, so that's not helping your argument at all.

> Before this step is taken the IM has to be thoroughly tested
> It has to offer something that the other IM does not.
> ( If it does not why replace it?? )

Testing is exactly the reason I made this change for the beta. Like I
said, whether or not it will be the default come full-release time in
November is still under heavy consideration. 
-- 
Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com>
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From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  1 17:22:28 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:22:28 +0000
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <1222881085.3464.10.camel@tuxhugs>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>
	<1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>	<1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48E34E10.7050008@hi.is>
	<1222881085.3464.10.camel@tuxhugs>
Message-ID: <48E3B1D4.1050904@hi.is>

Peter Gordon wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:16 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>   
>> I am perfectly aware of how easy it is to replace applications but is your
>> gram ma or your daughter.
>>
>>     
>
> Beta and pre-releases in general are not usually suited to these types
> of users anyway, so that's not helping your argument at all.
>
>   
>> Before this step is taken the IM has to be thoroughly tested
>> It has to offer something that the other IM does not.
>> ( If it does not why replace it?? )
>>     
>
> Testing is exactly the reason I made this change for the beta. Like I
> said, whether or not it will be the default come full-release time in
> November is still under heavy consideration. 
>   
And btw why does Empathy get to skip feature process ?

jbg
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From gnomeuser at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 17:30:24 2008
From: gnomeuser at gmail.com (David Nielsen)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:30:24 +0200
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E3B1D4.1050904@hi.is>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>
	<1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E34E10.7050008@hi.is> <1222881085.3464.10.camel@tuxhugs>
	<48E3B1D4.1050904@hi.is>
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2008/10/1 "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" <johannbg at hi.is>

> Peter Gordon wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:16 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I am perfectly aware of how easy it is to replace applications but is
>>> your
>>> gram ma or your daughter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Beta and pre-releases in general are not usually suited to these types
>> of users anyway, so that's not helping your argument at all.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Before this step is taken the IM has to be thoroughly tested
>>> It has to offer something that the other IM does not.
>>> ( If it does not why replace it?? )
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Testing is exactly the reason I made this change for the beta. Like I
>> said, whether or not it will be the default come full-release time in
>> November is still under heavy consideration.
>>
> And btw why does Empathy get to skip feature process ?


It was made the default im app in upstream GNOME, we do I believe still have
a feature to track GNOME 2.24
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From ricks at nerd.com  Wed Oct  1 17:43:28 2008
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:43:28 -0700
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48E3B6C0.6020505@nerd.com>

greg wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 17:51 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
>> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:02 +0000, "J??hann B. Gu??mundsson" wrote:
>>> Noticed that Pidgin has been replaced by the crappy not working [segfaulting]
>>> 100%  cpu load causing piece if shit IM better known as Empathy
>>> ( Me bitter no well yes.. )
>> Well that's not very constructive. :)
>>
>> What specific problems are you having with it? How can they be
>> reproduced? Please file appropriately detailed bugs on
>> bugzilla.redhat.com so that we may attempt to fix these issues before
>> F10-GA if they are truly present. 
>>
>> Fwiw, I made the choice to switch to Empathy for the F10 beta exactly
>> for the purposes of testing it and trying to squash any last-minute bugs
>> in it. Whether or not it will be the default in F10 proper is still
>> being considered. Likely, it still needs a lot of work in various areas
>> (see [1]), so we may end up reverting to Pidgin as the default IM
>> client, then go with Empathy from F11 and onward as circumstances
>> permit.
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
>> -- 
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: 
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> 
> i'd have to agree,, Empathy needs more work on it before it becomes
> default IM.whereas Pidgin is near complete, but at the end of the day,
> its just as easy to do a 
> 
> yum remove empathy
> yum install Pidgin
> 
> but what i dont understand is why create another IM when you can/could
> just improve Pidgin? surely there's Devs out there that could Help the
> Pidgin Devs out an improve it than Creating another Instant Messenger 

I have to chime in here as well.  Any default baseline desktop app (like
an IM client or something as basic as the desktop itself) had better be
pretty functional and stable or the release will be rapidly vilified in
the public's eye.  Look at what happened with KDE 4.0 in F9.  Sheesh!

If you're going to force the change to a different application (and I
use that term to signify what will be installed by default), that new
application should be compatible with and offer similar or better 
capabilities than the old one and offer an easy way to upgrade existing
data to it.  I've not tried Empathy, but I surely do NOT want to have
to re-enter all my account data from Pidgin into Empathy.  That's
onerous to say the least.

Can someone "in the know" give one an idea as to what's involved in
making decisions as to what will be "default" in the future?  I'm
curious.  Some of the decisions in the past have been questionable to
say the least.
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From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct  1 17:47:24 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 12:47:24 -0500
Subject: No graphic login with latest kernel
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810010115g6329de4fw6891f34b08f0b7a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0809300613k20d945c8o85cfd639de0c2dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E22A74.8030703@hi.is>
	<4c37b6af0809300644ka629ce6of4b59e1b94ef3365@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c4ba1530809301035p6f190c88jde2da2e4cdc99339@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0809301155q7fbf1468xff8aa89322b1a4fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<m3gar5xu7u.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<4c37b6af0809302150g1bcc787ga2845af737619ad4@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0809302153y61962683lcd17dc07b0530f61@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810010115g6329de4fw6891f34b08f0b7a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081001174724.GA23463@wolff.to>

One thing I have found dealing with the new drivers in rawhide is that
while X (or perhaps gdm) crashes on start up fairly often, if you can
get started t6hing work pretty well. So if you see your monitor isn't
getting a signal try crtl alt backspace to see if you can get X going.
Usually it will work within about a half dozen tries if it is going to.



From bpepple at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct  1 18:02:37 2008
From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:02:37 -0400
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E3B1D4.1050904@hi.is>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
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On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 17:22 +0000, =?ISO-8859-1?Q? J 
> And btw why does Empathy get to skip feature process ?

Umm, it hasn't. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GNOME2_24

Later,
/B
-- 
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From per at bothner.com  Wed Oct  1 18:15:40 2008
From: per at bothner.com (Per Bothner)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:15:40 -0700
Subject: e1000e bug - 32 bit, 64 bit or Both?
In-Reply-To: <20081001170336.GB18506@mail.harddata.com>
References: <48E327FF.10101@omen.com>	<5256d0b0810010134p38d7c54qd24b0a078460202e@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081001170336.GB18506@mail.harddata.com>
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Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 09:34:34AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
>> <caf at omen.com> wrote:
>>> Has this corruption appeared on both 32 and 64 bit Linux flavors,
>>> or just one?
>> There's one driver for both platforms so I suspect it will happen on
>> both 32 or 64 flavours.
> 
> AFAIK reasons for the problem are still unknown but reports of
> corruption presumably come so far from 64-bit machines.  It appears
> that some race is involved so it may be that its window is easier to
> hit with 64 bits?

64-bit hardware, certainly - presumably almost any hardware that
has the effected Ethernet card(s) would be a Core 2 or better 64-bit
machine.

But I'm fairly sure (it's been about a month, so I could be
mis-remembering) I've only tried installing 32-bit versions of Fedora
and Ubuntu - and my Ethernet card was affected.
-- 
	--Per Bothner
per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct  1 18:35:12 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:35:12 +0000
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E3B6C0.6020505@nerd.com>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>
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Rick Stevens wrote:
> greg wrote:
>> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 17:51 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:02 +0000, "J??hann B. Gu??mundsson" wrote:
>>>> Noticed that Pidgin has been replaced by the crappy not working 
>>>> [segfaulting]
>>>> 100%  cpu load causing piece if shit IM better known as Empathy
>>>> ( Me bitter no well yes.. )
>>> Well that's not very constructive. :)
>>>
>>> What specific problems are you having with it? How can they be
>>> reproduced? Please file appropriately detailed bugs on
>>> bugzilla.redhat.com so that we may attempt to fix these issues before
>>> F10-GA if they are truly present.
>>> Fwiw, I made the choice to switch to Empathy for the F10 beta exactly
>>> for the purposes of testing it and trying to squash any last-minute 
>>> bugs
>>> in it. Whether or not it will be the default in F10 proper is still
>>> being considered. Likely, it still needs a lot of work in various areas
>>> (see [1]), so we may end up reverting to Pidgin as the default IM
>>> client, then go with Empathy from F11 and onward as circumstances
>>> permit.
>>>
>>> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
>>> -- 
>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> To unsubscribe: 
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>> i'd have to agree,, Empathy needs more work on it before it becomes
>> default IM.whereas Pidgin is near complete, but at the end of the day,
>> its just as easy to do a
>> yum remove empathy
>> yum install Pidgin
>>
>> but what i dont understand is why create another IM when you can/could
>> just improve Pidgin? surely there's Devs out there that could Help the
>> Pidgin Devs out an improve it than Creating another Instant Messenger 
>
> I have to chime in here as well.  Any default baseline desktop app (like
> an IM client or something as basic as the desktop itself) had better be
> pretty functional and stable or the release will be rapidly vilified in
> the public's eye.  Look at what happened with KDE 4.0 in F9.  Sheesh!
>
> If you're going to force the change to a different application (and I
> use that term to signify what will be installed by default), that new
> application should be compatible with and offer similar or better 
> capabilities than the old one and offer an easy way to upgrade existing
> data to it.  I've not tried Empathy, but I surely do NOT want to have
> to re-enter all my account data from Pidgin into Empathy.  That's
> onerous to say the least.
>
> Can someone "in the know" give one an idea as to what's involved in
> making decisions as to what will be "default" in the future?  I'm
> curious.  Some of the decisions in the past have been questionable to
> say the least.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
I do believe the answer is in David Nielsen response.

"It was made the default im app in upstream GNOME, we do I believe still 
have a feature to track GNOME 2.24"

I guess I should dig deeper into the Features list in the near future...

"If Pidgin was installed previously, it remains installed. On new 
installations we will install Empathy"

So I guess we are stuck with Empathy not both to coexist hell. they 
don't even allow the fedora lock theme to be enabled
by default which btw you can enable it by doing this..
gconftool-2 --set --type string 
/apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_dialog_theme "system"

I just hope that the art team has not given up on creating art for the 
lock theme.

jbg



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From keith at karsites.net  Wed Oct  1 19:12:05 2008
From: keith at karsites.net (Keith Roberts)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:12:05 +0100 (BST)
Subject: SysLinux version please?
In-Reply-To: <48E3AAF2.4070208@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810011739100.3812@www.karsites.net>
	<48E3AAF2.4070208@redhat.com>
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Eric Sandeen wrote:

> To: Keith Roberts <keith at karsites.net>,
>     For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>     <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: SysLinux version please?
> 
> Keith Roberts wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me what version of SysLinux F10 Beta ships
>> with please?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Keith Roberts
>
> A search on koji:
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=429
>
> would indicate that it's 3.61
>
> -Eric

Thankyou for that Eric.

Any idea when the patch regarding this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450678

is going to make it into the F10 release please?

Kind Regards,

Keith Roberts



From rstrode at redhat.com  Wed Oct  1 20:05:17 2008
From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:05:17 -0400
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E3C2E0.1000002@hi.is>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>	<1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48E3B6C0.6020505@nerd.com>
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Hi,
>
> So I guess we are stuck with Empathy not both to coexist hell. they 
> don't even allow the fedora lock theme to be enabled
> by default which btw you can enable it by doing this..
> gconftool-2 --set --type string 
> /apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_dialog_theme "system"
Our fearless leader, Paul Frields did a lock dialog for F 9, which I've 
been meaning to push as an update, but it never quite makes it to the 
top of my priority queue.

--Ray



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed Oct  1 20:38:21 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:38:21 -0400
Subject: Fedora Test Day - 2008-10-02 - F10 Beta and Anaconda NetworkManager
Message-ID: <1222893501.23148.110.camel@flatline>

Greetings folks,

I'd like to invite testers and users to join #fedora-qa this Thursday,
October 2, 2008.  Testing efforts will focus on gathering Fedora 10 Beta
feedback and exercising anaconda NetworkManager integration.

Come with questions, bug reports, and/or suggested test areas.

More details will be posted to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-02.

See you there,
James
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From mclasen at redhat.com  Wed Oct  1 21:03:13 2008
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:03:13 -0400
Subject: Polishing the F10 desktop
Message-ID: <1222894993.3562.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Around beta time, the destkop team usually starts tracking minor polish
issues, like nonworking menuitems, missing or wrong icons, etc. 

Traditionally, the tracker bug for this effort has been called
'yellowpad' (an actual yellow pad was involved in very early iterations
of this process). This time around, I've given it the more neutral alias
'F10DesktopTarget'. For more serious bugs (like 'no sound' or 'my panel
crashes') we have the 'F10DesktopBlocker' tracker bug.


How you can help:

- Install an F10 beta desktop or boot the F10 beta live cd
- Look around on the desktop for polish issues
- File bugs for the issues you find, and put them on the appropriate
blocker


Lets squash those bugs !


Matthias




From ricks at nerd.com  Wed Oct  1 22:27:59 2008
From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:27:59 -0700
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E3C2E0.1000002@hi.is>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is>	<1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48E3B6C0.6020505@nerd.com>
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J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> Rick Stevens wrote:
>> greg wrote:
[snip]
>> Can someone "in the know" give one an idea as to what's involved in
>> making decisions as to what will be "default" in the future?  I'm
>> curious.  Some of the decisions in the past have been questionable to
>> say the least.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
> I do believe the answer is in David Nielsen response.
> 
> "It was made the default im app in upstream GNOME, we do I believe still 
> have a feature to track GNOME 2.24"

So I guess this should be asked of the Gnome team, eh?

> I guess I should dig deeper into the Features list in the near future...
> 
> "If Pidgin was installed previously, it remains installed. On new 
> installations we will install Empathy"

The problem is the upgrade process between versions has never been
particularly smooth.  If history repeats itself (and I sure don't see
that tradition changing soon), MANY people will end up backing up user
data and special configs and installing F10 fresh.  Voila!  No Pidgin.
Lovely.

> So I guess we are stuck with Empathy not both to coexist hell. they 
> don't even allow the fedora lock theme to be enabled
> by default which btw you can enable it by doing this..
> gconftool-2 --set --type string 
> /apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_dialog_theme "system"
> 
> I just hope that the art team has not given up on creating art for the 
> lock theme.

Well, I suppose I shall have to install F9 on ye ol' labrat machine
and run F10 as a domU under it to test this stuff.  To be honest, I
think the release cycle is a bit too short for practicality--especially
when you run into things like the new IM client segfaulting.
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From bpepple at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct  1 22:40:12 2008
From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:40:12 -0400
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <48E3F96F.4010706@nerd.com>
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Message-ID: <1222900812.3100.1.camel@kennedy>

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:27 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> To be honest, I
> think the release cycle is a bit too short for practicality--especially
> when you run into things like the new IM client segfaulting.

And the bug # for that?

Later,
/B
-- 
Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org>

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple
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From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed Oct  1 23:08:26 2008
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:08:26 -0400
Subject: hard disk install bugzilla
Message-ID: <20081001190826.4f8e0261@zooty>

There was a tread earlier about hard disk install not
working on the fedora 10 beta. I was gonna chime in on
the associated bugzilla, but didn't find one when I looked,
so I chimed in with a new bugzilla instead:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465184



From stickster at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 02:55:34 2008
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:55:34 -0400
Subject: f10beta hard drive install
In-Reply-To: <20081001145349.GA22917@localhost.localdomain>
References: <b79371120810010743m4dba1f1q90fc8bd4599e3c3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081001145349.GA22917@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081002025534.GO23900@victoria-eth.internal.frields.org>

On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:53:49AM -0400, Chris Lumens wrote:
> > It seems like it's working, but then when I tell it to do a hard drive
> > install and where the install image directory is, it says it can't find it.
> > I hit Alt-F[2-7] and found a message implying it was looking for a
> > file named install.img in the install image directory.  But I'm sure
> > I've never put a file named install.img in that directory.  Do I need
> > to rename Fedora-10-Beta-i386-DVD.iso to install.img?  With older
> > releases, hard drive installs automagically found the iso file.
> 
> >From https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464836:
> 
> No, it doesn't need to be renamed.  What you need to do is either:
> 
> (1) Grab the install.img from within the ISO image or from the download
> site, and place it into an images/ directory at the same level as your
> ISO images; or
> 
> (2) Boot from the boot.iso.
> 
> This is a change from F9, but it is described in the anaconda
> documentation at:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options
> 
> (I've also just updated that documentation to change stage2.img ->
> install.img, which was a fairly recent change in anaconda).

This should also go in the Release Notes beat:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Installer 

I've also filed a bug for the Installation Guide:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465195 

-- 
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From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 03:12:20 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:12:20 -0400
Subject: graphical login never appears
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810012012p25e22fb8h73da55f2e0aca902@mail.gmail.com>

After todays updates (post 7:30AM EDT), booting F10beta no longer presents
the
GUI (or any other) login prompt.  The screen just seems to toggle its
backlight
on and off, but thats hard to tell.  I can't seem to flip to a text mode
screen either.

I saw a two day old thread that talked about using nomodeset during boot
time,
but with this new boot software, I don't even know how to get to a prompt
to allow me to edit the boot lines to give that a try.

Does anyone have any comments?

TIA
Fulko
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From spowd at bigpond.com  Thu Oct  2 03:28:25 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (greg)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:28:25 +1000
Subject: The Gimp2.6.0 in Fedora10?
Message-ID: <1222918105.5211.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

any chances of Gimp 2.6.0 getting into Fedora10? 
-- 
Regards Greg 

http://www.fedoraforum.org/?



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 04:38:55 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (kwhiskerz)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:38:55 -0600
Subject: graphical login never appears
Message-ID: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>

I have encountered the same problem. I cannot give you any assistance, except 
to tell you that you must press the ESC(ape) Key as grub is starting up in 
order to see the grub menu. Then you will be able to edit the boot options as 
formerly. ESC switches Plymouth on and off, it would appear, so that you can 
see either a pretty picture or grub and the boot messages.
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From jamundso at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 05:05:25 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:05:25 -0500
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <1222881085.3464.10.camel@tuxhugs>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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On 10/1/08, Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:16 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>> I am perfectly aware of how easy it is to replace applications but is your
>> gram ma or your daughter.
>>
>
> Beta and pre-releases in general are not usually suited to these types
> of users anyway, so that's not helping your argument at all.

Au contraire, mon ami. [On the contrary, my friend.]
"Beta and pre-releases in general" (rawhide as we know it) is no more than a
"Add/Remove Software" (Package Manager)
Edit->Repositories, checkbox "development" away from my 93-year old,
computer illiterate, cannot setup-his-way-out-of-a-vcr-remote
grandfather adding complete crap packages on his desktop, you might
reconsider that statement.

In general, code quality in open source software currently SUCKS.
Before you dedicated, talented programmers/analysts/designers get all
defensive on me, forget it. I've been around longer than you, and have
put more quality analysis hours in than you can fit on your pinky.
Granted, I appreciate the effort, but now[1] the distro[2] needs to give more.

jerry

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Present
[2] me, and everyone else..........

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 05:23:25 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:23:25 +0200
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/2 kwhiskerz <kwhiskerz at gmail.com>:
> I have encountered the same problem. I cannot give you any assistance,
> except to tell you that you must press the ESC(ape) Key as grub is starting
> up in order to see the grub menu. Then you will be able to edit the boot
> options as formerly. ESC switches Plymouth on and off, it would appear, so
> that you can see either a pretty picture or grub and the boot messages.
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
which graphic card and which driver ???
I have similar problems with intel 945GM/860GL and intel driver...


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From peter at thecodergeek.com  Thu Oct  2 05:33:24 2008
From: peter at thecodergeek.com (Peter Gordon)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:33:24 -0700
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810012205n1f3d2e0erfe017d38596390b6@mail.gmail.com>
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	<48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>
	<1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E34E10.7050008@hi.is> <1222881085.3464.10.camel@tuxhugs>
	<6d06ce20810012205n1f3d2e0erfe017d38596390b6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1222925604.7581.10.camel@tuxhugs>

On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 00:05 -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> Au contraire, mon ami. [On the contrary, my friend.]
> "Beta and pre-releases in general" (rawhide as we know it) is no more than a
> "Add/Remove Software" (Package Manager)
> Edit->Repositories, checkbox "development" away from my 93-year old,
> computer illiterate, cannot setup-his-way-out-of-a-vcr-remote
> grandfather adding complete crap packages on his desktop, you might
> reconsider that statement.

And you would grant that level of root-password-required access to such
a person...why, exactly? :)

> In general, code quality in open source software currently SUCKS.

We are all human. From that, errors are inherent to and unavoidable in
anything we - as a society or as individuals - produce: including code.
However, one of F/OSS's many benefits is the great number of people
perusing and (hopefully) quickly improving upon that as time passes. 
-- 
Peter Gordon (codergeek42) <peter at thecodergeek.com>
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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Thu Oct  2 05:47:39 2008
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:47:39 +0800
Subject: e1000e bug - 32 bit, 64 bit or Both?
In-Reply-To: <48E3BE4C.4050807@bothner.com>
References: <48E327FF.10101@omen.com>	<5256d0b0810010134p38d7c54qd24b0a078460202e@mail.gmail.com>	<20081001170336.GB18506@mail.harddata.com>
	<48E3BE4C.4050807@bothner.com>
Message-ID: <48E4607B.3080309@herakles.homelinux.org>

Per Bothner wrote:
> Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 09:34:34AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
>>> <caf at omen.com> wrote:
>>>> Has this corruption appeared on both 32 and 64 bit Linux flavors,
>>>> or just one?
>>> There's one driver for both platforms so I suspect it will happen on
>>> both 32 or 64 flavours.
>>
>> AFAIK reasons for the problem are still unknown but reports of
>> corruption presumably come so far from 64-bit machines.  It appears
>> that some race is involved so it may be that its window is easier to
>> hit with 64 bits?
> 
> 64-bit hardware, certainly - presumably almost any hardware that
> has the effected Ethernet card(s) would be a Core 2 or better 64-bit
> machine.
> 
> But I'm fairly sure (it's been about a month, so I could be
> mis-remembering) I've only tried installing 32-bit versions of Fedora
> and Ubuntu - and my Ethernet card was affected.

I'm running 64-bit Linux (Fedora, C5, opensuse 11.0) on relevant 
hardware. I will _not_ try the opensuse beta (the docs suggest 
destruction is possible), and if I keep updating Fedora 10 alpha I 
suspect I will lose the Internet.



-- 

Cheers
John

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From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Thu Oct  2 07:27:17 2008
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:27:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<200810011233.15840.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<48E36861.6060706@hi.is>
	<200810011518.47855.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20081002T072343-447@post.gmane.org>

Anne Wilson <cannewilson <at> googlemail.com> writes:
> I couldn't get any sound from opening test files with available applications.

It's probably muted, check your ALSA settings in KMix. Normally, the sound 
hardware is supposed to be unmuted by the init scripts (ALSA defaults to all 
muted), but that got broken by an ALSA change. The initscripts package has been 
fixed in yesterday's Rawhide, but the fix didn't make the F10Beta cut.

> Finally, "SELinux is preventing restorecon (setfiles_t) "read write" 
> unconfined_t"

SELinux preventing its own tools to do their job?! Sounds like a definite bug.

        Kevin Kofler



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct  2 10:50:04 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu,  2 Oct 2008 10:50:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081002 changes
Message-ID: <20081002105004.B5F701F8263@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

New package hunspell-fur
        Friulian hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-fy
        Frisian hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-mi
        Maori hunspell dictionaries
New package pymssql
        A simple database interface to MS-SQL for Python
New package python-rdflib
        Python library for working with RDF
New package rubygem-git
        A package for using Git in Ruby code
New package rubygem-highline
        HighLine is a high-level command-line IO library
Removed package bluez-libs
Removed package bluez-utils
Removed package nail
Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4022.4.fc10
----------------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> - 1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4022.4
- Fix connection comparison that could cause changes to get overwritten (rh #464417)


PackageKit-0.3.5-4.fc10
-----------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.5-4
- Rename the subpackages before David blows a blood vessel.
- yum-packagekit  -> PackageKit-yum-plugin
- udev-packagekit -> PackageKit-udev-helper


anaconda-11.4.1.42-1
--------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.42-1
- Revert "Finally controlled the plural issue at #508  in Japanese"
  (dcantrell)

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.41-1
- Fix text inconsistency (#465165). (clumens)
- If there's an error running Xvnc, also print it to the console. (clumens)
- Set the installation repo when using the askmethod UI (#463472). (clumens)
- Fix a segfault when the wrong HDISO repo parameter is given. (clumens)
- Remove the 'Installation Repo' cache directory after install (#464853).
  (clumens)
- If there aren't any usable NICs, don't write out a config (#465127).
  (clumens)
- It helps to specify what the method string should be split on (#464855).
  (clumens)
- Gateway and nameserver are optional for static network configuration.
  (dcantrell)
- Store nameserver in NetworkDevice object. (dcantrell)
- Fix a traceback calling enableNetwork (#464849). (clumens)
- Enable groups when creating new repos since yum doesn't do that now.
  (clumens)
- Update FQDN patch to fix a couple tracebacks (#464191). (clumens)
- Fix static network configuration from boot.iso installs. (dcantrell)
- Use all caps naming for the netdev keys. (dcantrell)
- Left justify text in ui/netconfig.glade interface. (dcantrell)
- Use the right attribute for repo URLs. (clumens)
- Use fullscreen for small screens (#444943) (katzj)
- Another try at fixing up reading errors from mount. (clumens)
- Don't traceback if no baseurl has been set yet. (clumens)
- Allow users to enter a hostname or FQDN during installation (#464191)
  (dcantrell)
- Whitespace cleanups. (dcantrell)
- Fix mk-s390-cdboot on s390x (#184648) (dcantrell)
- Run all text through unicode() before putting it into the TextBuffer.
  (clumens)
- Add reverse chap iscsi bits for kickstart (hans)
- Properly center the passphrase entry dialog. (clumens)
- Fix test for an empty hostname. (clumens)
- Support installs to SD via MMC (#461884) (katzj)
- Set ANACONDA_PRODUCTNAME, etc from /etc/system-release (#464120) (alsadi)
- Reduce code duplication by moving methods into backend (katzj)
- Select packages after repos are set up (#457583) (katzj)
- Add a basic reset method (katzj)
- Cleanups and simplifications to repo setup (clumens) (katzj)
- Revert "Revert "lang-names should really only depend on lang-table""
  (katzj)
- Fix lang-name generation + fix traceback with LANG=C (katzj)
- Allow going back to the method selection screen on error (#463473).
  (clumens)
- Make the boot loader device dialog less ugly (#463489). (clumens)
- Look in images/ for install.img on HDISO (#463474). (clumens)
- Sort Installation Repo to the top of the repo list. (clumens)
- Fuzzy string to fix translation build (katzj)


ant-1.7.1-7.2.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 0:1.7.1-7.2
- Exclude bogus perl(the) Requires
- Exclude bogus perl(oata), perl(examples) Provides


arora-0.4-1.fc10
----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> - 0.4-1
- Updated to version 0.4


axis-1.2.1-4.1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Permaine Cheung <pcheung at redhat.com> 0:1.2.1-4.1
- Specify source=1.4 for javac


azureus-3.0.4.2-17.fc10
-----------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 3.0.4.2-17
- Updated release.
- Changed swt-gtk-3.3.jar links to swt.jar.
- Updated libswt3-gtk2 requirements to eclipse-swt.
- Resolves: rhbz#465051


beldi-0.9.21-1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.21-1
- Upgrade to 0.9.21
- Add new manpage


bigloo-3.1b-3.fc10
------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Gerard Milmeister <gemi at bluewin.ch> - 3.1b-3
- add BR openssl-devel
- add missing Req. gmp-devel


cernlib-2006-31.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 2006-31
- correct 702-patch-Imakefiles-for-packlib-mathlib to apply with fuzz 0


cernlib-g77-2006-31.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 2006-31
- correct 702-patch-Imakefiles-for-packlib-mathlib to apply with fuzz 0


crystalspace-1.2.1-1.fc10
-------------------------

cwrite-0.1.24-3.fc9
-------------------

dhcp-4.0.0-29.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 12:4.0.0-29
- Make sure /etc/resolv.conf has restorecon run on it (#451560)


eel2-2.24.0-3.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-3
- When a crossfade is in progress and another is requested,
  don't cancel the first but instead just change the
  pixmap that's getting faded to.  Might help with a flicker
  problem Matthias is encountering


ejabberd-2.0.2-3.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 2.0.2-3
- Fixed broken ejabberdctl (BZ# 465196)

* Sat Aug 30 18:00:00 2008 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 2.0.2-2
- Added missing Requires


elfutils-0.137-3.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Roland McGrath <roland at redhat.com> - 0.137-3
- fix libdwfl regression (#462689)


elinks-0.12-0.6.pre2.fc10
-------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Kamil Dudka <kdudka at redhat.com> 0.12-0.6.pre2
- port elinks to use NSS library for cryptography (#346861)


expendable-0.0.3-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 0.0.3-3
- 0.0.3.
- Don't run 'make check' as it requires an X display.
- Requires pygtk2.


fltk-1.1.9-1.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1.1.9-1
- fltk-1.1.9


galeon-2.0.7-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Sep 27 18:00:00 2008 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 2.0.7-1
- Update to 2.0.7
- Reworked plugins patch, added nspr test config patch
- Other patches upstreamed


gambas-1.0.19-7.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.0.19-7
- fix gcc4 patch to apply without fuzz


ghc-6.8.3-6.fc10
----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Bryan O'Sullivan <bos at serpentine.com> 6.8.3-6.fc10
* Rename hsc2hs to hsc2hs-ghc so the alternatives symlink to it will work


glade2-2.12.2-5.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.12.2-5
- Make it build

* Mon Jul 21 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2.12.2-3
- fix license tag


glib-1.2.10-30.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 1:1.2.10-30
- copy config.* from rpm directory, those shipped are too old. Should
  fix #462650.


glib2-2.18.1-2.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 David Zeuthen <davidz at redhat.com> - 2.18.1-2
- Update the patch to always pass FUSE POSIX URI's


gmpc-0.15.5.0-4.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Adrian Reber <adrian at lisas.de> - 0.15.5.0-4
- re-created patch to apply cleanly (fixes #465008)


grep-2.5.1a-61.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> 2.5.1a-61
- Fix pcre-mode (-P) line wrapping (bug #324781)
- Match the version with upstream
- Recode AUTHORS to utf8


gtk+-1.2.10-64.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1:1.2.10-63
- patch_fuzz, fix build (#465033)

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 1:1.2.10-64
- copy config.* from rpm directory, those shpped with gtk+ are too old

* Mon Mar 10 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1:1.2.10-62
- Provides: gtk1(-devel)


gvfs-1.0.1-4.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 David Zeuthen <davidz at redhat.com>  - 1.0.1-4
- Add patch for reverse mapping FUSE paths (bgo #530654)


gweled-0.7-12.1
---------------
* Tue Sep  2 18:00:00 2008 Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora[AT]leemhuis[DOT]info> - 0.7-12
- define _default_patch_fuzz 2


hal-0.5.12-0.20081001git.fc10
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-0.20081001git
- Update to git snapshot 20081001git


hal-info-20081001-2.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 20081001-2
- Bump for rebuild

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 20081001-1
- Update to latest upstream release


hdf-4.2r3-4.fc10
----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> 4.2.r3-4
- Rebase maxavailfiles patch

* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 4.2r3-3
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


iksemel-1.3-6.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> - 1.3-6
- disable "make check" on sparcv9


imsettings-0.104.1-3.fc10
-------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 0.104.1-3
- add workaround for KDE


jakarta-commons-net-1.4.1-4.3.fc10
----------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Permaine Cheung <pcheung at redhat.com> - 0:1.4.1-4.3
- Fix commons-net-1.4.1-project_xml.patch


jna-3.0.4-9.svn729.fc10
-----------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Colin Walters <walters at redhat.com> - 3.0.4-9.svn729
- Add new patch to support NativeMapped[] which I want

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Colin Walters <walters at redhat.com> - 3.0.4-8.svn729
- Update to svn r729
- drop upstreamed typemapper patch

* Thu Sep 18 18:00:00 2008 Colin Walters <walters at redhat.com> - 3.0.4-7.svn700
- Add patch to make typemapper always accessible
- Add patch to skip cracktastic X11 test bits which currently fail


k3b-1.0.5-6.fc10
----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 0:1.0.5-6
- revert libdvdread header changes, fix build (#465115)
- (re)enable -devel on f9


kernel-2.6.27-0.377.rc8.git1.fc10
---------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- nvidia-agp support for TTM

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com>
- update to squashfs 3.4

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- Disable debugging options in default builds. Enable kernel-debug.

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27-rc8-git1

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- drm modesetting - radeon add some fixes


libaio-0.3.107-5.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> - 0.3.107-5
- remove ExclusiveArch line


libgnomecups-0.2.3-4.fc10
-------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 0.2.3-4
- Make it build


libkexif-0.2.5-5.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 0.2.5-5
- fix build (#465007)


libraw1394-2.0.0-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> - 2.0.0-2
- Misc fixes from Erik Hovland, based on coverity prevent analysis


linuxwacom-0.8.0.3-2.fc10
-------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> 0.8.0.3-1
- build sparcv9

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Aristeu Rozanski <arozansk at redhat.com> 0.8.1.4-1
- updating to last upstream version

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Aristeu Rozanski <arozansk at redhat.com> 0.8.0.3-1
- using the production version for f10

* Wed May 21 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 0.7.9.8-8
- fix license tag


lirc-0.8.4-0.2.pre1.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.8.4-0.2.pre1
- Don't create a backup for the keycodes patch, or all the original files
  will also get installed, and get used in gnome-lirc-properties


lybniz-1.3.2-2.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Stewart Adam <s.adam at diffingo.com> 1.3.2-2
- Update .desktop patch for FTBFS (bz#464956)


mail-notification-5.4-3.fc10
----------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dmitry Butskoy <Dmitry at Butskoy.name> - 5.4-3
- add patch for evolution >= 2.23.5 (#464779)


mesa-7.2-0.5.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 7.2-0.5
- fix drm requires

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 7.2-0.4
- rebase to new upstream + r300 bufmgr code - openarena under kms works now


mysql-5.0.67-2.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Tom Lane <tgl at redhat.com> 5.0.67-2
- Build the "embedded server" library, and package it in a new sub-RPM
  mysql-embedded, along with mysql-embedded-devel for devel support files.
Resolves: #149829


netbeans-6.1-6.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Victor G. Vasilyev <victor.vasilyev at sun.com> 6.1-6
- Showing an incorrect EULA at startup is disabled (#464820). The netbeans-6.1-50-ide-launcher.patch is modified.


nss_compat_ossl-0.9.4-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Rob Crittenden <rcritten at redhat.com> - 0.9.4-1
- update to 0.9.4
- change Source0 to use fedoraproject.org


ocsinventory-agent-0.0.9.2-2.fc10
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> 0.0.9.2-2
- fix FTBFS (#465073)


openoffice.org-3.0.0-9.1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Caol??n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1:3.0.0-9.1
- next candidate


ovaldi-5.5.3-1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> 5.5.3-1
- New upstream release


pam_krb5-2.3.2-1.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 2.3.2-1
- fix ccache permissions bypass when the "existing_ticket" option is used
  (CVE-2008-3825)
- add build requirement on "gettext" so that xgettext is available at build-time


pcre-7.8-1.fc10
---------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> - 7.8-1
- Update to 7.8, drop upstreamed patches
- Fix destination of documentation (#427763)
- Use buildroot macro consistently
- Separate the static library, as per current Guidelines
- Satisfy rpmlint


perl-5.10.0-46.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 4:5.10.0-45
- give Changes*.gz the same datetime to avoid multilib conflict

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Stepan Kasal <skasal at redhat.com> - 4:5.10.0-46
- also preserve the timestamp of AUTHORS; move the fix to the recode
  function, which is where the stamps go wrong


perl-Catalyst-Plugin-ConfigLoader-0.21-2.fc10
---------------------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.21-2
- drop _with_network_tests bit

* Thu Sep 25 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.21-1
- update to 0.21


perl-Config-IniHash-3.00.00-2.fc10
----------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 3.00.00-2
- add requires on Hash::Case, Hash::WithDefaults (rhbz#465164)


perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.08010-7
- fix patch fuzz


perl-PDL-2.4.3-15.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Ma??l????ov?? <mmaslano at redhat.com> - 2.4.3-15
- rebuilt for F-10


php-manual-en-20080919-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Wed Sep 24 18:00:00 2008 Tim Jackson <rpm at timj.co.uk> 20080919-1
- Update to 2008-09-19 version
- License is now Creative Commons Attribution License


php-pear-propel_generator-1.3.0-1.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kahl <akahl at iconmobile.com> - 1.3.0-1
- update to 1.3.0 stable


php-pear-propel_runtime-1.3.0-1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kahl <akahl at iconmobile.com> - 1.3.0-1
- update to 1.3.0 stable


pigment-0.3.10-1.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Saou <http://freshrpms.net/> 0.3.10-1
- Update to 0.3.10.

* Tue Sep 16 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Saou <http://freshrpms.net/> 0.3.9-1
- Update to 0.3.9.


pigment-python-0.3.8-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Saou <http://freshrpms.net/> 0.3.8-1
- Update to 0.3.8.

* Tue Sep 16 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Saou <http://freshrpms.net/> 0.3.7-1
- Update to 0.3.7.


python-docs-2.5.2-1.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Jame Antill <james.antill at redhat.com> - 2.5.2-1
- Move to 2.5.2 like python itself.

* Wed Sep  3 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2.5.1-3
- fix license tag


python-simplejson-2.0.1-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 2.0.1-1
- Update to 2.0.1, which contains many optimizations and bugfixes


qosmic-1.4.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Ian Weller <ianweller at gmail.com> 1.4.2-1
- Updated upstream


rhythmbox-0.11.6-11.5957.fc10
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.11.6-r5956
- Update to latest trunk version, with GIO support and very many
  bug fixes
- Remove obsoleted patches, autotools and xulrunner-devel BRs

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.11.6-9.r5956
- Update release version

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.11.6-11.r5957
- Update source name

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.11.6-10.r5957
- Update to latest trunk
- Fixes lirc plugin never finishing loading


rpm-4.5.90-0.git8514.1
----------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Panu Matilainen <pmatilai at redhat.com>
- update to official 4.5.90 alpha tarball 
- a big pile of misc bugfixes + translation updates
- isa-macro generation fix for ppc (#464754)
- avoid pulling in pile of perl dependencies for an unused script
- handle both "invalid argument" and clear env version mismatch on posttrans


rt3-3.8.1-1.fc10
----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Cors??pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org> - 3.8.1-1
- 1st rawhide release.

* Tue Sep 23 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Cors??pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org> - 3.8.1-0
- First try at public release.
- Completely rework the spec.
- Upstream update.

* Tue Sep 23 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Cors??pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org>
- Don't package %{_sysconfdir}/rt3/upgrade/*.in
- Cleanup Requires, __perl_requires, __perl_provides.

* Tue Sep 23 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Cors??pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org>
- Add Provides for perl-deps rpm doesn't catch.
- Treat Spamassassin optional


ruby-RMagick-2.7.0-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 2.7.0-1
- 2.7.0


ruby-mechanize-0.8.3-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 0.8.3-1
- 0.8.3


seahorse-plugins-2.24.0-3.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 2.24.0-3
- Fix the build


selinux-policy-3.5.9-4.fc10
---------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.9-4
- Fix labeling for oracle

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.9-3
- Allow nsplugin to comminicate with xdm_tmp_t sock_file


sepostgresql-8.3.4-2.1076.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 <kaigai at kaigai.gr.jp> - 8.3.3-2.1076
- bugfix: "(null)" audit logs for non-cached decision making.
- A hook is added for "COPY TO/FROM <file>" cases.


stormbaancoureur-2.1.5-1.fc10
-----------------------------

sunbird-0.9-3.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> 0.9-3
- Attempt to fix the libical patch's timezone problem


swarp-2.17.1-3.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Aug 29 18:00:00 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> 2.17.1-3
- Include unowned /usr/share/swarp directory


tla-1.3.5-6.fc10
----------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.5-6
- Fixed build failure due to change in definition of %{_cc}. Closes Red Hat
  Bugzilla bug #465028.


totem-2.24.1-1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


uw-imap-2007b-2.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 2007b-2
- fix build (patch fuzz) (#464985)


vtk-5.0.4-25.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 5.0.2-25
- Fix patch fuzz


w3lib-1.6-4.fc10
----------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 1.6-4
- quote %{__cc} since now the macro also holds compiler options


wcstools-3.7.0-3.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Sergio Pascual <sergiopr at fedoraproject.org> 3.7.0-3
- Fails to build from source bz#465061


wp_tray-0.5.3-8.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Denis <denis at poolshark.org> - 0.5.3-8
- Fixed boost patch


xfce4-mailwatch-plugin-1.1.0-1.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <fedora christoph-wickert de> - 1.1.0-1
- Update to 1.1.0 fixes crash due to obscure GTK hash error (#463412)


xfce4-panel-4.4.2-5.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.2-5
- Fix FTBFS (#465058)
- Update defaults patch to include mailwatch plugin
- Remove old xfce4-iconbox and xftaskbar dummy files


xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.1-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.5.1-1
- Update to 0.5.1


xkeyboard-config-1.4-2.fc10
---------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1.4-2
- Update to 1.4


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-21.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-21
- rebase for latest fixes and new libdrm


xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.4.2-9.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.4.2-9
- rebase to upstream for new libdrm interfaces


Summary:
Added Packages: 7
Removed Packages: 3
Modified Packages: 94
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.i386 requires libbluetooth.so.2
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.i386 requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libdlm.so.2
	openobex-apps-1.3-13.fc10.i386 requires libbluetooth.so.2
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.x86_64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.x86_64 requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.x86_64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.x86_64 requires libcman.so.2()(64bit)
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.x86_64 requires libdlm.so.2()(64bit)
	openobex-apps-1.3-13.fc10.x86_64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc requires libbluetooth.so.2
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.ppc requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libdlm.so.2
	openobex-apps-1.3-13.fc10.ppc requires libbluetooth.so.2
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libbfd-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libopcodes-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	livecd-tools-018-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libcman.so.2()(64bit)
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libdlm.so.2()(64bit)
	openobex-apps-1.3-13.fc10.ppc64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 11:46:58 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:46:58 -0400
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>wrote:


> which graphic card and which driver ???
> I have similar problems with intel 945GM/860GL and intel driver...


Intel 945 and whatever driver F10Beta chose.
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 11:54:32 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:54:32 +0200
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810020454k3d91f67ag824e5a6db623bf10@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/2 Fulko Hew <fulko.hew at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> which graphic card and which driver ???
>> I have similar problems with intel 945GM/860GL and intel driver...
>
> Intel 945 and whatever driver F10Beta chose.
>
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

Will you give a look at the following bugs???:

 Bug 461772 -  If I upgrade xorg-drv-i810 I can't start graphically my system
 Bug 462605 -  kernel updates prevent graphic login

Tnx

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 12:30:20 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:30:20 -0400
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810020454k3d91f67ag824e5a6db623bf10@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810020454k3d91f67ag824e5a6db623bf10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810020530l2dd11295p495e8aee0fe6385@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2008/10/2 Fulko Hew <fulko.hew at gmail.com>:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> which graphic card and which driver ???
> >> I have similar problems with intel 945GM/860GL and intel driver...
> >
> > Intel 945 and whatever driver F10Beta chose.
>
> Will you give a look at the following bugs???:
>
>  Bug 461772 -  If I upgrade xorg-drv-i810 I can't start graphically my
> system
>  Bug 462605 -  kernel updates prevent graphic login
>

Bug #  462605 sounds like exactly my symptoms.
are there any workarounds or solutions yet?
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 12:36:43 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:36:43 +0200
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0810020530l2dd11295p495e8aee0fe6385@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810020454k3d91f67ag824e5a6db623bf10@mail.gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0810020530l2dd11295p495e8aee0fe6385@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810020536r274ab2f4u6a027e9d395814d6@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/2 Fulko Hew <fulko.hew at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2008/10/2 Fulko Hew <fulko.hew at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> which graphic card and which driver ???
>> >> I have similar problems with intel 945GM/860GL and intel driver...
>> >
>> > Intel 945 and whatever driver F10Beta chose.
>>
>> Will you give a look at the following bugs???:
>>
>>  Bug 461772 -  If I upgrade xorg-drv-i810 I can't start graphically my
>> system
>>  Bug 462605 -  kernel updates prevent graphic login
>
> Bug #  462605 sounds like exactly my symptoms.
> are there any workarounds or solutions yet?
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

add your comment to the bug with all necessary infoormations that you
think important.

Tnx

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From xjakub at fi.muni.cz  Thu Oct  2 13:01:46 2008
From: xjakub at fi.muni.cz (Milos Jakubicek)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:01:46 +0200
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810020454k3d91f67ag824e5a6db623bf10@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>	<8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <48E4C63A.3030500@fi.muni.cz>

> 
> Will you give a look at the following bugs???:
> 
>  Bug 461772 -  If I upgrade xorg-drv-i810 I can't start graphically my system
>  Bug 462605 -  kernel updates prevent graphic login

Same problem here, but it seems to be related to gdm, after switching to 
kdm it worked.

I'll post my /var/log/messages to #462605

Regards,
Milos



From xjakub at fi.muni.cz  Thu Oct  2 13:29:19 2008
From: xjakub at fi.muni.cz (Milos Jakubicek)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:29:19 +0200
Subject: F10 Beta test results
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0810010750t6095df5btf963adebbb80dd1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0810010750t6095df5btf963adebbb80dd1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48E4CCAF.4090501@fi.muni.cz>

Fulko Hew napsal(a):
> 
> Here are my observations on F10 Beta...
> (Before reading my observations, I'll cut to the chase
> and declare F10 (with KDE) still completely unusable... for me)
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> During initial installation I chose to 'test the media' since k3b
> reported an 'unable to verify, because we couldn't find a track' error...
> 
> The DVD successfully tested OK, but then would not let me
> continue the installation process... constantly asking me for
> installation media.

Same problem, filed as BZ#465257.

Cheers,
Milos



From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 13:38:17 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:38:17 -0400
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <48E4C63A.3030500@fi.muni.cz>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810020454k3d91f67ag824e5a6db623bf10@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E4C63A.3030500@fi.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810020638jff10d3bq7674d2ed774097ee@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> wrote:

>
>> Will you give a look at the following bugs???:
>>
>>  Bug 461772 -  If I upgrade xorg-drv-i810 I can't start graphically my
>> system
>>  Bug 462605 -  kernel updates prevent graphic login
>>
>
> Same problem here, but it seems to be related to gdm, after switching to
> kdm it worked.


Do you have a process for switching to kdm, once everything is dead/blank?
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From ajax at redhat.com  Thu Oct  2 13:54:21 2008
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:54:21 -0400
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0810012012p25e22fb8h73da55f2e0aca902@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8204a4fe0810012012p25e22fb8h73da55f2e0aca902@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1222955661.3674.0.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 23:12 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote:

> I saw a two day old thread that talked about using nomodeset during
> boot time, but with this new boot software, I don't even know how to
> get to a prompt to allow me to edit the boot lines to give that a try.

Hit space after the BIOS screen clears.  Or hold control.  Just smash on
the keyboard really.

- ajax

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From jamundso at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 14:26:01 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:26:01 -0500
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <1222925604.7581.10.camel@tuxhugs>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>
	<1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E34E10.7050008@hi.is> <1222881085.3464.10.camel@tuxhugs>
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	<1222925604.7581.10.camel@tuxhugs>
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On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 00:05 -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
>> Au contraire, mon ami. [On the contrary, my friend.]
>> "Beta and pre-releases in general" (rawhide as we know it) is no more than a
>> "Add/Remove Software" (Package Manager)
>> Edit->Repositories, checkbox "development" away from my 93-year old,
>> computer illiterate, cannot setup-his-way-out-of-a-vcr-remote
>> grandfather adding complete crap packages on his desktop, you might
>> reconsider that statement.
>
> And you would grant that level of root-password-required access to such
> a person...why, exactly? :)

Heh. Good point!

>> In general, code quality in open source software currently SUCKS.
>
> We are all human. From that, errors are inherent to and unavoidable in
> anything we - as a society or as individuals - produce: including code.

I understand that, but it's the recent quantity of the lack-of-quality
that worries me.

> However, one of F/OSS's many benefits is the great number of people
> perusing and (hopefully) quickly improving upon that as time passes.

Several days of having an extra large paper weight on my desk due to
broken e1000e, ati, insert-your-driver-here...
Well, ok, I'll remain optimistic! Fortunately, I thought ahead enough
to setup multi-boot with f9 ...

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  2 14:43:55 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:43:55 -0400
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <48E4C63A.3030500@fi.muni.cz>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>	<8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810020454k3d91f67ag824e5a6db623bf10@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E4C63A.3030500@fi.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <48E4DE2B.6070605@sbcglobal.net>

Milos Jakubicek wrote:
>>
>> Will you give a look at the following bugs???:
>>
>>  Bug 461772 -  If I upgrade xorg-drv-i810 I can't start graphically 
>> my system
>>  Bug 462605 -  kernel updates prevent graphic login
>
> Same problem here, but it seems to be related to gdm, after switching 
> to kdm it worked.
>
> I'll post my /var/log/messages to #462605
>
> Regards,
> Milos
>
How and where did you change the gdm to kdm settings.
I can use the FC10-KDE-live cd and make changes through Dolphin SU.



From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl  Thu Oct  2 14:52:08 2008
From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:52:08 +0200
Subject: F10 Beta testing resaults :)
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810020726x29c612a6p830900f225d148ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48E24D8E.3040302@hi.is> <1222822301.10778.11.camel@tuxhugs>
	<1222823910.3119.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E3362E.3090201@hi.is>
	<1222851833.2952.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48E34E10.7050008@hi.is> <1222881085.3464.10.camel@tuxhugs>
	<6d06ce20810012205n1f3d2e0erfe017d38596390b6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1222925604.7581.10.camel@tuxhugs>
	<6d06ce20810020726x29c612a6p830900f225d148ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081002145208.GM19785@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>

On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 09:26:01AM -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 00:05 -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> >> Au contraire, mon ami. [On the contrary, my friend.]
> >> "Beta and pre-releases in general" (rawhide as we know it) is no more than a
> >> "Add/Remove Software" (Package Manager)
> >> Edit->Repositories, checkbox "development" away from my 93-year old,
> >> computer illiterate, cannot setup-his-way-out-of-a-vcr-remote
> >> grandfather adding complete crap packages on his desktop, you might
> >> reconsider that statement.
> >
> > And you would grant that level of root-password-required access to such
> > a person...why, exactly? :)
> 
> Heh. Good point!
> 
> >> In general, code quality in open source software currently SUCKS.
> >
> > We are all human. From that, errors are inherent to and unavoidable in
> > anything we - as a society or as individuals - produce: including code.
> 
> I understand that, but it's the recent quantity of the lack-of-quality
> that worries me.
> 
> > However, one of F/OSS's many benefits is the great number of people
> > perusing and (hopefully) quickly improving upon that as time passes.
> 
> Several days of having an extra large paper weight on my desk due to
> broken e1000e,

That kind of problem happens very rarely and - as you can read in the news
- it's being worked on by both Intel and kernel developers.

> ati,

AMD has released a lot of documentation and work on radeon/radeonhd drivers
is progressing nicely. Radeonhd works fine for me. If fglrx doesn't work
for you, we can't do anything about it. Ask AMD for support.

Regards,
R.

-- 
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <rathann*at*icm.edu.pl>  |  LAN  Staff
Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling
Warsaw University  |  http://www.icm.edu.pl  |  tel. +48 (22) 5540810



From cra at WPI.EDU  Thu Oct  2 17:59:00 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:59:00 -0400
Subject: e1000e bug - 32 bit, 64 bit or Both?
In-Reply-To: <48E4607B.3080309@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <48E327FF.10101@omen.com>
	<5256d0b0810010134p38d7c54qd24b0a078460202e@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081001170336.GB18506@mail.harddata.com>
	<48E3BE4C.4050807@bothner.com>
	<48E4607B.3080309@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <20081002175900.GY24829@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 01:47:39PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> I'm running 64-bit Linux (Fedora, C5, opensuse 11.0) on relevant  
> hardware. I will _not_ try the opensuse beta (the docs suggest  
> destruction is possible), and if I keep updating Fedora 10 alpha I  
> suspect I will lose the Internet.

I tried F10 beta, and my ethernet card doesn't work because they 
disabled the e1000e driver.  At least it didn't fry my NVRAM.

I wonder what kind of help I can provide seeing as I have the affected 
hardware, but without actually ruining my card.



From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl  Thu Oct  2 17:42:29 2008
From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst H. von Brand)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:42:29 -0400
Subject: Disappearing Firefox
In-Reply-To: <48E32A59.2090201@omen.com>
References: <48E32A59.2090201@omen.com>
Message-ID: <200810021742.m92HgTZW006535@laptop14.inf.utfsm.cl>

Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com> wrote:
> 32 bit beta on Core Duo dg33bu and ATI 3450
> 
> use the Google search window for "presidential whos who".
> Within several seconds of references appearing, Firefox
> simply disappears.  Restarting Firefox with Restore Session
> causes an exit in the same manner.
> 
> This is with the 32 bit FC10 beta installed to HD.

Rawhide x86_64 du jour (firefox-3.0.2-1.fc10.x86_64) works fine here.
-- 
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Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria             +56 32 2654239
Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile 2340000       Fax:  +56 32 2797513



From john5342 at googlemail.com  Thu Oct  2 19:47:27 2008
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:47:27 +0100
Subject: Disappearing Firefox
In-Reply-To: <48E32A59.2090201@omen.com>
References: <48E32A59.2090201@omen.com>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0810021247l4e6b588dw30be1d974742841f@mail.gmail.com>

Have had the same problem after installing flash 10 beta. Dont know if thats
relevant to your situation.

2008/10/1 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com>

> 32 bit beta on Core Duo dg33bu and ATI 3450
>
> use the Google search window for "presidential whos who".
> Within several seconds of references appearing, Firefox
> simply disappears.  Restarting Firefox with Restore Session
> causes an exit in the same manner.
>
> This is with the 32 bit FC10 beta installed to HD.
>
> --
> Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
> Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
>  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
> 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665
>
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From bruno at wolff.to  Thu Oct  2 20:10:48 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:10:48 -0500
Subject: e1000e bug - 32 bit, 64 bit or Both?
In-Reply-To: <20081002175900.GY24829@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <48E327FF.10101@omen.com>
	<5256d0b0810010134p38d7c54qd24b0a078460202e@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081001170336.GB18506@mail.harddata.com>
	<48E3BE4C.4050807@bothner.com>
	<48E4607B.3080309@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<20081002175900.GY24829@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <20081002201048.GA5556@wolff.to>

On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 13:59:00 -0400,
  Chuck Anderson <cra at WPI.EDU> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 01:47:39PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> > I'm running 64-bit Linux (Fedora, C5, opensuse 11.0) on relevant  
> > hardware. I will _not_ try the opensuse beta (the docs suggest  
> > destruction is possible), and if I keep updating Fedora 10 alpha I  
> > suspect I will lose the Internet.
> 
> I tried F10 beta, and my ethernet card doesn't work because they 
> disabled the e1000e driver.  At least it didn't fry my NVRAM.
> 
> I wonder what kind of help I can provide seeing as I have the affected 
> hardware, but without actually ruining my card.

According to a comment in a koji update to the kernel today, the problem
has been fixed. I haven't yet seen that announcement anywhere out.
(Note this is supposed to be a real fix, not the work around previously
implemented to disable the driver.)



From selinux at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 21:36:57 2008
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:36:57 -0700
Subject: Disappearing Firefox
In-Reply-To: <6dc6523c0810021247l4e6b588dw30be1d974742841f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48E32A59.2090201@omen.com>
	<6dc6523c0810021247l4e6b588dw30be1d974742841f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530810021436x13c1a98fi931a9f1c7a15da3b@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:47 PM, John5342 <john5342 at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Have had the same problem after installing flash 10 beta. Dont know if thats
> relevant to your situation.
>
> 2008/10/1 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com>
>>
>> 32 bit beta on Core Duo dg33bu and ATI 3450
>>
>> use the Google search window for "presidential whos who".
>> Within several seconds of references appearing, Firefox
>> simply disappears.  Restarting Firefox with Restore Session
>> causes an exit in the same manner.
>>
>> This is with the 32 bit FC10 beta installed to HD.
>>
>> --
>> Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
>> Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
>>  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
>> 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665
>>
Noticed this in .xsession-errors:

/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  3870 Segmentation
fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}

Haven't been able to reproduce with gdb or with valgrind....

Don't see anything obvious in bugzilla.

tom
-- 
Tom London



From michel.sylvan at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 22:15:05 2008
From: michel.sylvan at gmail.com (Michel Salim)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:15:05 -0400
Subject: Polishing the F10 desktop
In-Reply-To: <1222894993.3562.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1222894993.3562.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <f224c6140810021515u2776296cp56847093c742f941@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> wrote:
> Around beta time, the destkop team usually starts tracking minor polish
> issues, like nonworking menuitems, missing or wrong icons, etc.
>
Neat!

> Traditionally, the tracker bug for this effort has been called
> 'yellowpad' (an actual yellow pad was involved in very early iterations
> of this process). This time around, I've given it the more neutral alias
> 'F10DesktopTarget'. For more serious bugs (like 'no sound' or 'my panel
> crashes') we have the 'F10DesktopBlocker' tracker bug.
>
I won't have time for the next few hours, so if someone wants to check
for the following bugs:
- Brasero (the burning dialog)
- F-Spot (import dialog)

Both of them are missing icons.

Thanks,

-- 
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IUCS         ?  msalim at cs.indiana.edu
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MacPorts     ?  hircus at macports.org



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  3 00:21:48 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:21:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
Message-ID: <339253.97746.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear all,

Doing a dmesg I see some denied avcs for npviewer 

I will attach the file,  I have not seen setroubleshoot kick in to warn me about these avcs.  Has anyone else seen these?

Thanks,

Antonio 


      
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  3 00:26:38 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:26:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
In-Reply-To: <339253.97746.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43404.10751.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
> To: fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com
> Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:21 PM
> Dear all,
> 
> Doing a dmesg I see some denied avcs for npviewer 
> 
> I will attach the file,  I have not seen setroubleshoot
> kick in to warn me about these avcs.  Has anyone else seen
> these?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Antonio 
> 
> 
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> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list

Messages were not attached, file too big :(

Here's preview :)

type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1308): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir
type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1309): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
type=1400 audit(1222991578.903:1310): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
type=1400 audit(1222991578.922:1311): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir


Thanks,

Antonio 


      



From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 00:32:10 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:32:10 -0500
Subject: e1000e bug - 32 bit, 64 bit or Both?
In-Reply-To: <20081002201048.GA5556@wolff.to>
References: <48E327FF.10101@omen.com>
	<5256d0b0810010134p38d7c54qd24b0a078460202e@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081001170336.GB18506@mail.harddata.com>
	<48E3BE4C.4050807@bothner.com>
	<48E4607B.3080309@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<20081002175900.GY24829@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<20081002201048.GA5556@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810021732k77623a60h5dd9888ae383368a@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/2/08, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> According to a comment in a koji update to the kernel today, the problem
> has been fixed. I haven't yet seen that announcement anywhere out.

Good catch! Here's the comment [1]

Apparently, upstream's fix was so fast this bug never made it past
NEW. Now what? [2]

jerry

[1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=65088
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459202

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  3 00:36:43 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:36:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: installation of F10-BETA, will report back
Message-ID: <637318.2559.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers,

On a machine running Fedora 9 along with WindowsXP(hosed), I decided to wipe out the NTFS partition and install Fedora 10 Beta.  I will have to try and fix the boot to boot both Rawhide and Fedora 9, but that will be an exercise for later.  I booted with ext4 option and did a custom boot, and had a hard time fixing the partitions so that I could install it.

Original layout:

[root at localhost ~]# fdisk -l                                       

Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xaf7caf7c                     

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1       26108   209712478+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2           31841       31865      200812+  83  Linux   
/dev/sda3           31866       38913    56613060   8e  Linux LVM
/dev/sda4           26109       31840    46042290    5  Extended
/dev/sda5           26109       26239     1052226   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda6           26240       31840    44990001   83  Linux               

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Disk /dev/dm-0: 56.8 GB, 56841207808 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 6910 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000                     

Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/dm-1: 1073 MB, 1073741824 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 130 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x30307800                     

Disk /dev/dm-1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root             
[root at localhost ~]# cat /boot/grub/grub.conf         
# grub.conf generated by anaconda                     
#                                                     
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that                   
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.         
#          root (hd0,1)                                                   
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00       
#          initrd /initrd-version.img                                     
#boot=/dev/sda                                                             
default=0                                                                 
timeout=5                                                                 
splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz                                     
hiddenmenu                                                                 
title Fedora (2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686)                                       
        root (hd0,1)                                                       
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=d82c76e1-bbe7-4a0d-94e9-711b3aea50db                                                                 
        initrd /initrd-2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686.img
title Fedora (2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686)
        root (hd0,1)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=d82c76e1-bbe7-4a0d-94e9-711b3aea50db
        initrd /initrd-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686.img
title Fedora (2.6.25-14.fc9.i686)
        root (hd0,1)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25-14.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=d82c76e1-bbe7-4a0d-94e9-711b3aea50db
        initrd /initrd-2.6.25-14.fc9.i686.img
title Fedora (2.6.25-0.234.rc9.git1.fc9.i686)
        root (hd0,1)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25-0.234.rc9.git1.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=d82c76e1-bbe7-4a0d-94e9-711b3aea50db
        initrd /initrd-2.6.25-0.234.rc9.git1.fc9.i686.img
title Microsoft Windows XP Pro
        rootnoverify (hd0,0)
        chainloader +1

New layout after I finish installing and testing back.  I had no ext4 option only ext4dev, is that the same?  As soon as I can boot the new system, I will get back!

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Fri Oct  3 01:14:21 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:14:21 +0300
Subject: f10 beta reduced my laptop to a standalone console system
Message-ID: <48E571ED.4030007@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Ok. I am obviously over my head on this and need some help. I updated an 
f9 dell d620 laptop to f10 beta. I was expecting to lose X as others 
have reported problems with the intel driver but I thought that updating 
to rawhide would solve that problem. The catch is that init 3 is not 
starting my wireless configuration and also won't let me bring up eth0 
complaining about problems with eth1.
More specifically, when I try
/sbin/ifup eth0
I get the error messages

     ./network=functions: line 211: rename_device: command not found
     tg3 device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization

so can someone tell me how to startup my network or how to get init 5 
working without being able to update any files.

Thanks



From fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org  Fri Oct  3 01:22:30 2008
From: fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org (Nathan Grennan)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:22:30 -0700
Subject: F10 beta Anaconda and the upgrade option
Message-ID: <48E573D6.1070007@cygnusx-1.org>

   As far as I can tell it seems like the upgrade option has been 
removed from Fedora 10 beta. I first tried it on my T61 laptop which 
already has F9. I got to the point where it wanted to rewrite my 
partition table without seeing an upgrade option. Next I tried in VMware 
with a blank virtual disk, and got to the point where you select 
packages without seeing a hint of the upgrade option.

   Is this a bug, or is it an intentional change? If it is an 
intentional change is the official/only upgrade path going to be 
preupgrade+yum from now on?

   I did search the release notes, checking the mailing lists, and asked 
in irc channels. No one had an answer.



From idht4n at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 01:26:32 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:26:32 -0700
Subject: F10 beta Anaconda and the upgrade option
In-Reply-To: <48E573D6.1070007@cygnusx-1.org>
References: <48E573D6.1070007@cygnusx-1.org>
Message-ID: <b79371120810021826h79587722i7647336ecb2c41de@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Nathan Grennan <
fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org> wrote:

>  As far as I can tell it seems like the upgrade option has been removed
> from Fedora 10 beta. I first tried it on my T61 laptop which already has F9.
> I got to the point where it wanted to rewrite my partition table without
> seeing an upgrade option. Next I tried in VMware with a blank virtual disk,
> and got to the point where you select packages without seeing a hint of the
> upgrade option.
>
I'm almost positive I was given the upgrade option pretty early on.  So
if you're really not seeing it, it must be intermittent (maybe it attempts
to detect if there is something to upgrade and sometimes fails??)
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From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 01:36:33 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:36:33 -0500
Subject: F10 beta Anaconda and the upgrade option
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810021826h79587722i7647336ecb2c41de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48E573D6.1070007@cygnusx-1.org>
	<b79371120810021826h79587722i7647336ecb2c41de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810021836r6ebdb687sd567642d899acfff@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/2/08, David L <idht4n at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Nathan Grennan <
> fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org> wrote:
>
>>  As far as I can tell it seems like the upgrade option has been removed
>> from Fedora 10 beta. I first tried it on my T61 laptop which already has
>> F9.
>> I got to the point where it wanted to rewrite my partition table without
>> seeing an upgrade option. Next I tried in VMware with a blank virtual
>> disk,
>> and got to the point where you select packages without seeing a hint of
>> the
>> upgrade option.
>>
> I'm almost positive I was given the upgrade option pretty early on.  So
> if you're really not seeing it, it must be intermittent (maybe it attempts
> to detect if there is something to upgrade and sometimes fails??)

I was definitely given the Upgrade option on bare metal today with f10
beta x86_64 DVD.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 01:47:39 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:47:39 -0500
Subject: f10 beta reduced my laptop to a standalone console system
In-Reply-To: <48E571ED.4030007@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <48E571ED.4030007@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810021847i1674449aj6007918438718507@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/2/08, shmuel siegel <fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu> wrote:
> Ok. I am obviously over my head on this and need some help. I updated an
> f9 dell d620 laptop to f10 beta. I was expecting to lose X as others
> have reported problems with the intel driver but I thought that updating
> to rawhide would solve that problem. The catch is that init 3 is not
> starting my wireless configuration and also won't let me bring up eth0
> complaining about problems with eth1.

You can't find a wired connection somewhere?

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Fri Oct  3 01:52:47 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:52:47 +0300
Subject: f10 beta reduced my laptop to a standalone console system
In-Reply-To: <48E571ED.4030007@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <48E571ED.4030007@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <48E57AEF.9090209@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

shmuel siegel wrote:
> Ok. I am obviously over my head on this and need some help. I updated 
> an f9 dell d620 laptop to f10 beta. I was expecting to lose X as 
> others have reported problems with the intel driver but I thought that 
> updating to rawhide would solve that problem. The catch is that init 3 
> is not starting my wireless configuration and also won't let me bring 
> up eth0 complaining about problems with eth1.
> More specifically, when I try
> /sbin/ifup eth0
> I get the error messages
>
>     ./network=functions: line 211: rename_device: command not found
>     tg3 device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization
>
> so can someone tell me how to startup my network or how to get init 5 
> working without being able to update any files.
>
> Thanks
>
Answering own question. Running "/sbin/service NetworkManager start" 
started my connection. ifup didn't work.
I am now updating to rawhide




From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  3 02:06:01 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:06:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: installation of F10-BETA, will report back
In-Reply-To: <637318.2559.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <860516.54624.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: installation of F10-BETA, will report back
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:36 PM
> Dear fellow testers,
> 
> On a machine running Fedora 9 along with WindowsXP(hosed),
> I decided to wipe out the NTFS partition and install Fedora
> 10 Beta.  I will have to try and fix the boot to boot both
> Rawhide and Fedora 9, but that will be an exercise for
> later.  I booted with ext4 option and did a custom boot, and
> had a hard time fixing the partitions so that I could
> install it.
> 
> Original layout:
> 
> [root at localhost ~]# fdisk -l                               
>        
> 
> Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0xaf7caf7c                     
> 
>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id 
> System
> /dev/sda1   *           1       26108   209712478+   7 
> HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda2           31841       31865      200812+  83 
> Linux   
> /dev/sda3           31866       38913    56613060   8e 
> Linux LVM
> /dev/sda4           26109       31840    46042290    5 
> Extended
> /dev/sda5           26109       26239     1052226   82 
> Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/sda6           26240       31840    44990001   83 
> Linux               
> 
> Partition table entries are not in disk order
> 
> Disk /dev/dm-0: 56.8 GB, 56841207808 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 6910 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x00000000                     
> 
> Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table
> 
> Disk /dev/dm-1: 1073 MB, 1073741824 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 130 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x30307800                     
> 
> Disk /dev/dm-1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
> You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root             
> [root at localhost ~]# cat /boot/grub/grub.conf         
> # grub.conf generated by anaconda                     
> #                                                     
> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making
> changes to this file
> # NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that    
>               
> #          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to
> /boot/, eg.         
> #          root (hd0,1)                                    
>               
> #          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro
> root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00       
> #          initrd /initrd-version.img                      
>               
> #boot=/dev/sda                                             
>                
> default=0                                                  
>               
> timeout=5                                                  
>               
> splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz                     
>                
> hiddenmenu                                                 
>                
> title Fedora (2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686)                        
>               
>         root (hd0,1)                                       
>                
>         kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 ro
> root=UUID=d82c76e1-bbe7-4a0d-94e9-711b3aea50db              
>                                                   
>         initrd /initrd-2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686.img
> title Fedora (2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686)
>         root (hd0,1)
>         kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 ro
> root=UUID=d82c76e1-bbe7-4a0d-94e9-711b3aea50db
>         initrd /initrd-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686.img
> title Fedora (2.6.25-14.fc9.i686)
>         root (hd0,1)
>         kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25-14.fc9.i686 ro
> root=UUID=d82c76e1-bbe7-4a0d-94e9-711b3aea50db
>         initrd /initrd-2.6.25-14.fc9.i686.img
> title Fedora (2.6.25-0.234.rc9.git1.fc9.i686)
>         root (hd0,1)
>         kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25-0.234.rc9.git1.fc9.i686 ro
> root=UUID=d82c76e1-bbe7-4a0d-94e9-711b3aea50db
>         initrd /initrd-2.6.25-0.234.rc9.git1.fc9.i686.img
> title Microsoft Windows XP Pro
>         rootnoverify (hd0,0)
>         chainloader +1
> 
> New layout after I finish installing and testing back.  I
> had no ext4 option only ext4dev, is that the same?  As soon
> as I can boot the new system, I will get back!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> -- 


Installation succeeded :)  Booted to Fedora 10 Beta.  Noticed that OpenOffice Writer/Presenter/Calc show up as 

FMenu --> Office --> OpenOffice.org .0 Writer
FMenu --> Office --> OpenOffice.org .0 Calc
FMenu --> Office --> OpenOffice.org .0 Presenter

respectively!   
Q:  Is this a bug, in the other machines in which I run Rawhide I saw them ok, but now that I look they are same?  Did not even notice :(

New fdisk and grub.conf file.  I will need to modify in order to boot both Fedora 9 and Fedora 10 Beta.  

[olivares at riohigh ~]$ su -
Password: 
[root at riohigh ~]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xaf7caf7c

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          12       96358+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2           31841       31865      200812+  83  Linux
/dev/sda3           31866       38913    56613060   8e  Linux LVM
/dev/sda4              13       31840   255658410    5  Extended
/dev/sda5              13       26108   209616088+  83  Linux
/dev/sda6           26109       26239     1052226   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7           26240       31840    44990001   83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order
[root at riohigh ~]# cat /boot/grub/grub.conf 
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#          root (hd0,0)
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda5
#          initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.27-0.352.rc7.git1.fc10.i686)
	root (hd0,0)
	kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27-0.352.rc7.git1.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=81a43c03-e5bf-4d3a-b176-560700821998 rhgb quiet
	initrd /initrd-2.6.27-0.352.rc7.git1.fc10.i686.img
title Fedora-base (2.6.27-0.352.rc7.git1.fc10.i686)
	root (hd0,0)
	kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27-0.352.rc7.git1.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=81a43c03-e5bf-4d3a-b176-560700821998 rhgb quiet
	initrd /initrd-2.6.27-0.352.rc7.git1.fc10.i686.img


Overall, it is looking beautifully.  Will update to latest and get back tommorrow. 

Regards,


Antonio 


      



From fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org  Fri Oct  3 02:16:03 2008
From: fedora-test-list at cygnusx-1.org (Nathan Grennan)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:16:03 -0700
Subject: F10 beta Anaconda and the upgrade option
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810021826h79587722i7647336ecb2c41de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48E573D6.1070007@cygnusx-1.org>
	<b79371120810021826h79587722i7647336ecb2c41de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48E58063.4000404@cygnusx-1.org>

David L wrote:
>
> I'm almost positive I was given the upgrade option pretty early on.  So
> if you're really not seeing it, it must be intermittent (maybe it attempts
> to detect if there is something to upgrade and sometimes fails??)

   I think it does try to detect, which is lame. It seems somehow my / 
filesystem got left as ext4dev after I installed F10 Alpha, and then 
went back to F9. F9 is fine with it, but the F10 Beta dvd says it can't 
mount it, because of a unsupported feature, which I am guessing is 
extents. I also can't remove extents from the filesystem. I did try 
using the ext4 option, thinking it might help, but had the same problem.

   I am going to have to backup and do a fresh install. I also am going 
to file a bug report.




From mclasen at redhat.com  Fri Oct  3 03:56:26 2008
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:56:26 -0400
Subject: Polishing the F10 desktop
In-Reply-To: <f224c6140810021515u2776296cp56847093c742f941@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1222894993.3562.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<f224c6140810021515u2776296cp56847093c742f941@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223006186.3554.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 18:15 -0400, Michel Salim wrote:

> I won't have time for the next few hours, so if someone wants to check
> for the following bugs:
> - Brasero (the burning dialog)
> - F-Spot (import dialog)
> 
> Both of them are missing icons.

I think I've fixed the f-spot import dialog. I didn't spot the missing
icon in brasero, so maybe you should file a bug with a screenshot for
that.


Matthias



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 04:36:46 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:36:46 +0200
Subject: Music issues with new kernel
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810022136l4b7055ej8829b4a4e9b4ced7@mail.gmail.com>

with newest kernel 2.6.27-0.377.rc8.fc10.i686 I get same problems as
in bug 441087 for F9.
my profile is http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_2dabf29b-bd26-4825-b7ed-ac1db85fec24
 Filed a bug for rawhide: Bug 465359 -  music too fast in intel
kernel 2.6.27-0.372.rc8.fc10.i686 seems o.k., but I understand that is
hardware depending...(Intel is a problem???)


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 05:10:55 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:10:55 +0300
Subject: Disappearing Firefox
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530810021436x13c1a98fi931a9f1c7a15da3b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48E32A59.2090201@omen.com>
	<6dc6523c0810021247l4e6b588dw30be1d974742841f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c4ba1530810021436x13c1a98fi931a9f1c7a15da3b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810022210r14ffc26es377382c5ab4a42f6@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/3 Tom London <selinux at gmail.com>

> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:47 PM, John5342 <john5342 at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Have had the same problem after installing flash 10 beta. Dont know if
> thats
> > relevant to your situation.
> >
> > 2008/10/1 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com>
> >>
> >> 32 bit beta on Core Duo dg33bu and ATI 3450
> >>
> >> use the Google search window for "presidential whos who".
> >> Within several seconds of references appearing, Firefox
> >> simply disappears.  Restarting Firefox with Restore Session
> >> causes an exit in the same manner.
> >>
> >> This is with the 32 bit FC10 beta installed to HD.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
> >> Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
> >>  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
> >> 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665
> >>
> Noticed this in .xsession-errors:
>
> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  3870 Segmentation
> fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
>

hmmm, i'm 99% sure i've seen this too in firefox, while trying a .mts (sony
hd 264 video file) file from menu, while the file was on the dvd....
f10beta, x86_64
anyway, rght now, after some updates, open file works fine with every
filesystem except rhe mounted dvd, where it keeps trying to open it forever.
on the dvd i have four (big) files, and nautilus can browse them.
however, launching firefox with the file as parameter had no problem.

>
> Haven't been able to reproduce with gdb or with valgrind....
>
> Don't see anything obvious in bugzilla.
>
> tom
> --
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>
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From cpanceac at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 05:44:31 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:44:31 +0300
Subject: Disappearing Firefox
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0810022210r14ffc26es377382c5ab4a42f6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48E32A59.2090201@omen.com>
	<6dc6523c0810021247l4e6b588dw30be1d974742841f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c4ba1530810021436x13c1a98fi931a9f1c7a15da3b@mail.gmail.com>
	<db64ccf0810022210r14ffc26es377382c5ab4a42f6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810022244m1d8e468dx465fcaa125d225b7@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/3 cornel panceac <cpanceac at gmail.com>

>
>
> 2008/10/3 Tom London <selinux at gmail.com>
>
>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:47 PM, John5342 <john5342 at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Have had the same problem after installing flash 10 beta. Dont know if
>> thats
>> > relevant to your situation.
>> >
>> > 2008/10/1 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com>
>> >>
>> >> 32 bit beta on Core Duo dg33bu and ATI 3450
>> >>
>> >> use the Google search window for "presidential whos who".
>> >> Within several seconds of references appearing, Firefox
>> >> simply disappears.  Restarting Firefox with Restore Session
>> >> causes an exit in the same manner.
>> >>
>> >> This is with the 32 bit FC10 beta installed to HD.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
>> >> Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
>> >>  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
>> >> 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665
>> >>
>> Noticed this in .xsession-errors:
>>
>> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  3870 Segmentation
>> fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
>>
>
> hmmm, i'm 99% sure i've seen this too in firefox, while trying a .mts (sony
> hd 264 video file) file from menu, while the file was on the dvd....
> f10beta, x86_64
> anyway, rght now, after some updates, open file works fine with every
> filesystem except rhe mounted dvd, where it keeps trying to open it forever.
> on the dvd i have four (big) files, and nautilus can browse them.
> however, launching firefox with the file as parameter had no problem.
>

meanwhile that's what i get in f9 x86 trying to access the dvd filesystem,
if i launch firefox from gnome terminal:

GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:175: failed to allocate 1073741824 bytes
aborting...
/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  4014
Aborted                 "$prog" ${1+"$@"}


>
>> Haven't been able to reproduce with gdb or with valgrind....
>>
>> Don't see anything obvious in bugzilla.
>>
>> tom
>> --
>> Tom London
>>
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From guenther.fischer at hrz.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Oct  3 06:40:59 2008
From: guenther.fischer at hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Fischer?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:40:59 +0200
Subject: login error
Message-ID: <a82b7ea20810022340q193a84f5y118d61a560ff978f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I've updatet to f10-Bata from f9 with rawhide. (I use f8 as production and
f9 for testing - now f9.91).
It works mostly fine for me but with a second login (my wife) log fails.

I have done some tries:
  * login to console works - so I know the correct password of my wife :-)
    but grafical login fails
  * because the ist a - sign (minus) in the password, I have changed the
passwd from
    abc-def to abcdef and it works

Any idea?

Mit freundlichen Gr??en / Regards
G?nther Fischer
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 07:19:21 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:19:21 +0200
Subject: Trashbin applet error
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810030019o2b345d24h162730ffed725dd9@mail.gmail.com>

on one of my system (my main home system) when I log in I get a
message saying that there is some error in applet of trashbin loading
OOefd: or something like this and asking if I waant to delete applet
loading from my configuration.Of course I say no and everything runs.
On same system I can't insert trashbin on my application bar. I
suppose that the two isssues are connected....
Any help??

Tnx

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct  3 08:17:14 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:17:14 +0000
Subject: F10 beta Anaconda and the upgrade option
In-Reply-To: <48E573D6.1070007@cygnusx-1.org>
References: <48E573D6.1070007@cygnusx-1.org>
Message-ID: <48E5D50A.3080308@hi.is>

Nathan Grennan wrote:
>   As far as I can tell it seems like the upgrade option has been 
> removed from Fedora 10 beta. I first tried it on my T61 laptop which 
> already has F9. I got to the point where it wanted to rewrite my 
> partition table without seeing an upgrade option. Next I tried in 
> VMware with a blank virtual disk, and got to the point where you 
> select packages without seeing a hint of the upgrade option.
>
>   Is this a bug, or is it an intentional change? If it is an 
> intentional change is the official/only upgrade path going to be 
> preupgrade+yum from now on?
>
>   I did search the release notes, checking the mailing lists, and 
> asked in irc channels. No one had an answer.
>
The option to upgrade is there
it's below Install Fedora...

JBG
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From ml at deadbabylon.de  Fri Oct  3 09:16:44 2008
From: ml at deadbabylon.de (Sebastian Vahl)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:16:44 +0200
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
In-Reply-To: <200810011511.48975.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<gbvvq9$b96$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200810011511.48975.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <200810031116.49051.ml@deadbabylon.de>

Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2008 schrieb Anne Wilson:
> On Wednesday 01 October 2008 15:00:41 Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 01 October 2008 11:49:03 J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> > >> > Hardware
> > >> > Pentium M730 cpu
> > >> > ATi Mobility Radeon X600
> > >> > didn't get as far as testing network.
> > >>
> > >> Try booting it with the kernel parameter nomodeset.
> > >
> > > Yes, that seems to have cured it.  What exactly is that doing?
> >
> > Not exactly the same, but the same ballpark:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464896
>
> Interesting.  That says Radeon x300-x500 and mine is an x600

The chips r300-r500 (recognize the _r_) are affected. And your x600 has an 
rv380 (according to "man radeon").

Sebastian
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From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Fri Oct  3 09:37:04 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:37:04 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: F10 beta LiveCD localization
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810031126000.14198@sandbox.cz>

I've downloaded the F10 beta live cd to check all our translation effort 
is OK there, however when choosing my language, all those system-config-* 
etc. are somehow only "semi" translated. I understand that there is 
limited space on CD, however I do not understand why in those applications 
are parts of the dialogs translated and parts remain in english. I'd 
expect that either language is completely missing on CD or its translation 
is complete there...

Thanks for any hint

Adam Pribyl



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Fri Oct  3 10:13:26 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 12:13:26 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Disappearing Firefox
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0810022244m1d8e468dx465fcaa125d225b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48E32A59.2090201@omen.com>
	<6dc6523c0810021247l4e6b588dw30be1d974742841f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c4ba1530810021436x13c1a98fi931a9f1c7a15da3b@mail.gmail.com>
	<db64ccf0810022210r14ffc26es377382c5ab4a42f6@mail.gmail.com>
	<db64ccf0810022244m1d8e468dx465fcaa125d225b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810031211570.14198@sandbox.cz>

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008, cornel panceac wrote:

>
> meanwhile that's what i get in f9 x86 trying to access the dvd filesystem,
> if i launch firefox from gnome terminal:
>
> GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:175: failed to allocate 1073741824 bytes
> aborting...
> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  4014
> Aborted                 "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
>
>


Same is happening on F9.. not only all passwords are inaccesable if they 
contain non UTF8 letters, it's also pretty unstable..

Adam Pribyl



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct  3 10:50:54 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri,  3 Oct 2008 10:50:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081003 changes
Message-ID: <20081003105054.963611F8263@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

New package DeviceKit-power
        Power Management Service
New package liveusb-creator
        A liveusb creator
New package mirrormanager
        Fedora mirror management system
New package perl-Module-Math-Depends
        Convenience object for manipulating module dependencies
New package perl-PAR
        Perl Archive Toolkit
Updated Packages:

Macaulay2-1.1-2.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1.1-2
- respin (factory/libfac)


amarok-1.92-2.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.92-2
- BR: gtk2-devel (gdk-pixbuf ipod artwork support)

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.92-1
- amarok-1.92 (amarok2 beta2)


amqp-1.0.700546-1.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Nuno Santos <nsantos at redhat.com> - 0:1.0.700546-1
- Rebased to svn rev 700546


arm-gp2x-linux-gcc-4.1.2-9.fc10
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 4.1.2-8
- Fix FTBFS (rh 464988)


automake15-1.5-25
-----------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Karsten Hopp <karsten at redhat.com> 1.5-25 
- fix build error

* Mon Jul 14 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 1.5-24
- fix patch2 to apply with fuzz=0
- fix license tag


bluez-gnome-1.7-2.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.7-2
- Remove the X-GNOME-NetworkSettings category from the
  preferences' desktop file, it makes the prefs show up in
  two places in the menus (#465180)


bouncycastle-1.41-1.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 1.41-1
- Import Bouncy Castle 1.41.
- Resolves: rhbz#465203


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.1.svn1329_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1329


chess-1.0-19.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Sep 19 18:00:00 2008 Alexey Torkhov <atorkhov at gmail.com> 1.0-19
- Port to OGRE 1.6


deskbar-applet-2.24.0-2.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Add gnome-python2-gnome{desktop,keyring} to the Requires.
  This fixes #465146 and #460026.


e2fsprogs-1.41.2-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com> 1.41.2-1
- New upstream version
- Updated default dir hash (half_md4) for better perf & fewer collisions
- Fixed ext4 online resizing with flex_bg
- ext4 journal now in extents format and in middle of filesystem
- fix unreadable e2image files
- fix file descriptor leak in libcom_err (#464689)

* Sat Aug 23 18:00:00 2008 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com> 1.41.0-2
- Don't check the group checksum when !GDT_CSUM (#459875)


ekiga-3.0.0-3.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 3.0.0-3
- require dbus


ember-0.5.4-2.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Alexey Torkhov <atorkhov at gmail.com> 0.5.4-2
- Update for new OGRE


ember-media-0.5.4-3
-------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Alexey Torkhov <atorkhov at gmail.com> 0.5.4-3
- Update for new OGRE


expendable-0.0.3-4.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 0.0.3-4
- Fixed accounts tree view packing.


f-spot-0.4.4-5.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 0.4.4-5
- Use a standard icon name instead of a non-existing one


factory-3.0.4-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 3.0.4-1
- factory-3.0.4


fedora-logos-9.99.4-2.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redaht.com> - 9.99.4-2
- Don't ship the screensaver desktop file thats in fedora-screensaver-theme


fedora-release-9.92-1
---------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 9.92-1
- Make the release version correct for 10-Beta.


fedora-screensaver-theme-1.0.0-3.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1.0.0-3
- require system-logos


fet-5.7.0-1.fc10
----------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Balint Cristian <rezso at rdsor.ro> - 5.7.0-1
- new upstream release
- some UTF-8 fixes now upstream


foomatic-3.0.2-67.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 3.0.2-67
- Rebuilt (bug #465298).


fwbackups-1.43.2-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Stewart Adam <s.adam at diffingo.com> 1.43.2-2
- Bump for retag

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Stewart Adam <s.adam at diffingo.com> 1.43.2-1
- Update to 1.43.2 final


gdm-2.24.0-8.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.0-8
- Don't show a non-functional help menuitem


gkrellm-2.3.1-6.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 2.3.1-6
- Fix a small memory leak (which would accumulate over time) thanks to
  Daniel Colascione for the patch (rh 464040)


gnome-session-2.24.0-6.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-6
- Fix missing translations in the capplet
- Fix small UI issues in the capplet


grip-3.2.0-23.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Adrian Reber <adrian at lisas.de> - 1:3.2.0-23
- fixed "German Umlauts are shown incorrectly" (#459394)
  (not converting de.po and fr.po to UTF-8 anymore)


gtk+-1.2.10-66.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 1:1.2.10-66
- rebase the ahiguti patch

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 1:1.2.10-65
- remove x_ldflags from gtk-config (#462650)


gwibber-0.7-6.102bzr.fc10
-------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 0.7-6.102bzr
- Use the system python-simplejson rather than the one included in the 
  tarball (#464727)


ifplugd-0.28-12.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.28-12
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


indent-2.2.10-2.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Roman Rakus <rrakus at redhat.com> - 2.2.10-2
- Cleared man patch to comply with fuzz=0
  Resolves: #465015


isdn4k-utils-3.2-60.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 3.2-60
- rebuild

* Tue Aug  5 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 3.2-59
- fix license tag


kernel-2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10
---------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com>
- Linux 2.6.27-rc8-git3
- Re-enable e1000e driver, corruption prevention fix is upstream

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- Add the ability to turn FIPS-compliant mode on or off at boot.

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27-rc8-git4


lftp-3.7.4-1.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 3.7.4-1
- Resolves: #464420 re-base to 3.7.4
- replaced usage of OpenSSL by GNUTLS due to license conflict


libaio-0.3.107-4.fc10
---------------------

libcapseo-0.2.0-0.2.20080603gita6ec446.fc10
-------------------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 0.2.0-0.2.20080603gita6ec446
- increment Release (#465297)

* Tue Jul  1 18:00:00 2008 Shawn Starr <spstarr at fedoraproject.org> 0.2.0-0.1.20080603gita6ec446
- Upstream snapshot, change GPLv2 to GPLv3. 
- Fix minor configure script issue.


libcdio-0.80-4.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Adrian Reber <adrian at lisas.de> - 0.80-4
- fixed #462125 (Multilib conflict) - this time for real


libfac-3.0.4-1.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 3.0.4-1
- libfac-3.0.4


libgdiplus-2.0-4.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-4
- Bump to RC4

* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-3
- Bump to RC3


libpciaccess-0.10.3-3.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Aug 28 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 0.10.3-3
- Rediff for --fuzz=0


libxfcegui4-4.4.2-3.fc10
------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.2-3
- Make xfce-exec use Thunar


libxml2-2.7.1-2.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Daniel Veillard <veillard at redhat.com> 2.7.1-2.fc10
- fix a nasty bug in 2.7.x, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554660


liferea-1.4.19-1.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Steven M. Parrish <smparrish at shallowcreek.net> 1.4.19-1
- New upstream release


lout-3.37-3.fc10
----------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 3.37-3
- don't build the docs in koji due to random ps2pdf segfault

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 3.37-2
- try using ps2pdf

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 3.37-1
- update to 3.37


malaga-suomi-voikko-1.2-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 - Ville-Pekka Vainio <vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi> 1.2-1
- Suomi-malaga 1.2
  - RC1 released as stable


maxima-5.16.3-3.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 5.16.3-3
- respin (sbcl)


mod_mono-2.0-4.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-4
- bump to RC4

* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-3
- bump to RC3


mono-2.0-10.fc10
----------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-10
- bump to RC4

* Sun Sep 28 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-9
- backported binaryserialisation and datatable patches
- backported stringreplace optimisation
- bump to RC3


mono-basic-2.0-4.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-4
- bump to RC4

* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-3
- bump to RC3
- alter excludearch to exclusivearch
- alter version number in pc file


mono-tools-2.0-7.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> - 2.0-7
- bump to rc3

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> - 2.0-6
- bump to rc3


monodoc-2.0-5.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-5
- bump to RC4

* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-4
- bump to RC 3


ncurses-5.6-20.20080927.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> 5.6-20.20080927
- update to patch 20080927


ogre-1.6.0-0.1.rc1.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Alexey Torkhov <atorkhov at gmail.com> 1.6.0-0.1.rc1
- New upstream release 1.6.0rc1
- Disabling broken OpenEXR plugin, it is not updated for long time and doesn't
  compile. FreeImage now have EXR support
- Updated private GLEW sources to 1.5.0 due to license issues and compiling
  against it instead of system ones, as it is patched by upstream


openbox-3.4.7.2-6.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> - 3.4.7.2-6
- Drop gnome session script (gnome-session no longer supports $WINDOW_MANAGER)
- Add application desktop file to allow starting openbox in gnome-session
  when configured in gconf


openobex-1.3-15.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jiri Moskovcak <jmoskovc at redhat.com> 1.3.14
- bump release

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jiri Moskovcak <jmoskovc>@redhat.com> 1.3.15
- rebuilt against new bluez-libs


perl-PAR-Dist-0.34-2.fc10
-------------------------
* Thu Sep 25 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Maslanova <mmaslano at redhat.com> 0.34-2
- forgot apply source

* Thu Sep 25 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Maslanova <mmaslano at redhat.com> 0.34-1
- update to 0.34 -> it was needed for perl-PAR


perl-Test-AutoBuild-1.2.2-6.fc10
--------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com> - 1.2.2-6.fc10
- Avoid empty debuginfo file (rhbz #465136)


preupgrade-0.9.8-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> - 0.9.8-2
- Clear cache after user decides not to resume an old run
- Add Fedora 10 Beta to releases.list


python-Coherence-0.5.8-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Jul 15 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Saou <http://freshrpms.net/> 0.5.8-1
- Update to 0.5.8.
- Don't include new "misc" directory, as its location is ugly!
- Don't include applet-coherence as it probably requires the "misc" directory.
- Remove all reqs but python-configobj, as it seems to be the only one left.


python-imaging-1.1.6-12.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jos?? Matos <jamatos[AT]fc.up.pt> - 1.1.6-12
- all patches are applied with -p1

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jos?? Matos <jamatos[AT]fc.up.pt> - 1.1.6-11
- rebuild to avoid the patches fuzziness (#464984)


python-markdown2-1.0.1.11-1.fc10
--------------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 1.0.1.11-1
- Update to 1.0.11, also fixes the syntax_color test for the latest
  Pygments (should fix FTBFS bug 465049).

* Fri Sep 26 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 1.0.1.10-1
- Update to 1.0.1.10.


python-qpid-0.3.700546-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Nuno Santos <nsantos at redhat.com> - 0.3.700546-1
- Rebased to svn revision 700546


qpidc-0.3.700546-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Nuno Santos <nsantos at redhat.com> - 0.3.700546-1
- Rebased to svn revision 700546

* Thu Sep 11 18:00:00 2008 Andrew Stitcher <astitcher at redhat.com> - 0.3.694455-1
- Add new packages for client & broker rdma
- Move cluster plugin into its own package
- Reflect new naming of plugins


sbcl-1.0.21-1.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.0.21-1
- sbcl-1.0.21
- common-lisp-controller bits f10+ only (for now)
- drop never-used min_bootstrap crud


shared-mime-info-0.51-3.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.51-3
- Use evince, not tetex-xdvi.desktop for DVI files (#465242)


vegastrike-0.5.0-5.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Alexey Torkhov <atorkhov at gmail.com> 0.5.0-5
- Rebuild for new ogre


veusz-1.1-3.fc10
----------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Sanders <jeremy at jeremysanders.net> - 1.1-3
- Got email address wrong - bumping again

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Sanders <jeremy at jeremysanders.net> - 1.1-2
- Forgot to add changelog for previous entry. Bumping.

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Sanders <jeremy at jeremysanders.net> - 1.1-1
- Updated to Veusz 1.1


warzone2100-2.1.0-0.6.beta5.fc10
--------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Karol Trzcionka <karlikt at gmail.com> - 2.1.0-0.6.beta5
- Update to v2.1.0-beta2


wxMaxima-0.7.5-2.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> 0.7.5-2
- build sparcv9


x3270-3.3.6-6.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Karsten Hopp <karsten at redhat.com> 3.3.6-6
- update redhat patch for fuzz=0 (#465087)


xfce4-taskmanager-0.4.1-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <fedora christoph-wickert de> - 0.4.1-1
- Update to 0.4.1
- Remove patches (fixed upstream)


xsp-2.0-4.fc10
--------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-4
- bump to RC 4

* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-3
- bump to RC 3


Summary:
Added Packages: 5
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 72
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.i386 requires libbluetooth.so.2
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.i386 requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	chess-1.0-19.fc10.i386 requires libOgreMain-1.4.9.so
	chess-1.0-19.fc10.i386 requires libCEGUIOgreRenderer-1.4.9.so
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libdlm.so.2
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.x86_64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.x86_64 requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	chess-1.0-19.fc10.x86_64 requires libOgreMain-1.4.9.so()(64bit)
	chess-1.0-19.fc10.x86_64 requires libCEGUIOgreRenderer-1.4.9.so()(64bit)
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.x86_64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.x86_64 requires libcman.so.2()(64bit)
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.x86_64 requires libdlm.so.2()(64bit)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc requires libbluetooth.so.2
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.ppc requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	chess-1.0-19.fc10.ppc requires libOgreMain-1.4.9.so
	chess-1.0-19.fc10.ppc requires libCEGUIOgreRenderer-1.4.9.so
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	liveusb-creator-3.0-1.fc10.noarch requires syslinux
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libdlm.so.2
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libbfd-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libopcodes-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	chess-1.0-19.fc10.ppc64 requires libOgreMain-1.4.9.so()(64bit)
	chess-1.0-19.fc10.ppc64 requires libCEGUIOgreRenderer-1.4.9.so()(64bit)
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	livecd-tools-018-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	liveusb-creator-3.0-1.fc10.noarch requires syslinux
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libcman.so.2()(64bit)
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libdlm.so.2()(64bit)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 11:15:23 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:15:23 +0200
Subject: Trashbin applet error
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810030019o2b345d24h162730ffed725dd9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810030019o2b345d24h162730ffed725dd9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810030415l7e0c2045ke4220d6c755c2790@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> on one of my system (my main home system) when I log in I get a
> message saying that there is some error in applet of trashbin loading
> OOefd: or something like this and asking if I waant to delete applet
> loading from my configuration.Of course I say no and everything runs.
> On same system I can't insert trashbin on my application bar. I
> suppose that the two isssues are connected....
> Any help??
>
> Tnx
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
the complete message is:
Panel encounterd an error during loading of :OAFIID:Gnome_Panel_TrashApplet
Do you want to remove it??



-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 11:44:54 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:44:54 +0200
Subject: Trash applet
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810030444g1dad4109h9f55cc51bc68fef5@mail.gmail.com>

In my F10 I don't have the Trash applet in the list of applets that
can be added to the panel...on another system I have it.
How can I add Trash applet??
And how can I had the Trash voice in the menu?? (I think in the
Resources Menu)...
The only area where I have the Trash is the desktop.
And should I see a Trash folder in my /User/ folder????

Tnx

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 11:48:38 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:48:38 +0200
Subject: Trashbin applet error
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810030415l7e0c2045ke4220d6c755c2790@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810030019o2b345d24h162730ffed725dd9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810030415l7e0c2045ke4220d6c755c2790@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810030448i58fa6cb8t76a991ae5e3ea2dd@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/3 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> on one of my system (my main home system) when I log in I get a
>> message saying that there is some error in applet of trashbin loading
>> OOefd: or something like this and asking if I waant to delete applet
>> loading from my configuration.Of course I say no and everything runs.
>> On same system I can't insert trashbin on my application bar. I
>> suppose that the two isssues are connected....
>> Any help??
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
> the complete message is:
> Panel encounterd an error during loading of :OAFIID:Gnome_Panel_TrashApplet
> Do you want to remove it??
>
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

solved by deleting the folder apps in .gconf folder.

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From dwalsh at redhat.com  Fri Oct  3 13:11:09 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:11:09 -0400
Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
In-Reply-To: <43404.10751.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <43404.10751.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E619ED.10400@redhat.com>

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
>> To: fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com
>> Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:21 PM
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Doing a dmesg I see some denied avcs for npviewer 
>>
>> I will attach the file,  I have not seen setroubleshoot
>> kick in to warn me about these avcs.  Has anyone else seen
>> these?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Antonio 
>>
>>
>>       -- 
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: 
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> 
> Messages were not attached, file too big :(
> 
> Here's preview :)
> 
> type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1308): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir
> type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1309): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
> type=1400 audit(1222991578.903:1310): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
> type=1400 audit(1222991578.922:1311): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Antonio 
> 
> 
>       
> 
Looks like npviewer is becoming dbus aware.  I will allow it to connect
to the dbus server, but I am not sure what service it is trying to
communicate with.



From rstrode at redhat.com  Fri Oct  3 13:27:03 2008
From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:27:03 -0400
Subject: login error
In-Reply-To: <a82b7ea20810022340q193a84f5y118d61a560ff978f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a82b7ea20810022340q193a84f5y118d61a560ff978f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48E61DA7.2050801@redhat.com>

Hi,
>
> I've updatet to f10-Bata from f9 with rawhide. (I use f8 as production 
> and f9 for testing - now f9.91).
> It works mostly fine for me but with a second login (my wife) log fails.
>
> I have done some tries:
>   * login to console works - so I know the correct password of my wife :-)
>     but grafical login fails
>   * because the ist a - sign (minus) in the password, I have changed 
> the passwd from
>     abc-def to abcdef and it works
Maybe the wrong keyboard layout is getting selected?

If you type - in a text field that doesn't have bullet characters, does 
it show up as - ?

--Ray



From caf at omen.com  Fri Oct  3 13:57:45 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:57:45 -0700
Subject: Chainloading to Rawhide
Message-ID: <48E624D9.7040108@omen.com>

My desktop machine has a number of Linux partitions on it
and it was a pain to have to modify the boot loader for each new
Rawhide install.  I found the following to work.  sda2 contains
a Linux boot partition.

1.  install Rawhide with boot loader to its partition, not MBR.

2.  Remove hiddenmenu command from Rawhide's grub.conf

3.  Modify the active grub.whatever (i.e., the last install of 
bootloader to MBR):


title Chainloader+1 Fedora sda7
    rootnoverify (hd0,1)
    chainloader (hd0,6)+1


-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From caf at omen.com  Fri Oct  3 13:59:26 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:59:26 -0700
Subject: Bypassing CD search delay
Message-ID: <48E6253E.5050503@omen.com>

To avoid a long delay while the Rawhide install looks for
something in an empty CD drive, just put an audio CD init.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From katzj at redhat.com  Fri Oct  3 14:07:22 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:07:22 -0400
Subject: F10 beta LiveCD localization
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810031126000.14198@sandbox.cz>
References: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810031126000.14198@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <1223042842.29429.7.camel@aglarond.local>

On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 11:37 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> I've downloaded the F10 beta live cd to check all our translation effort 
> is OK there, however when choosing my language, all those system-config-* 
> etc. are somehow only "semi" translated. I understand that there is 
> limited space on CD, however I do not understand why in those applications 
> are parts of the dialogs translated and parts remain in english. I'd 
> expect that either language is completely missing on CD or its translation 
> is complete there...

It probably means that some translations are missing, either from the
tool or from a library that it uses and gets strings from.  

Jeremy



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct  3 14:19:53 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:19:53 -0400
Subject: F10 beta Anaconda and the upgrade option
In-Reply-To: <48E58063.4000404@cygnusx-1.org>
References: <48E573D6.1070007@cygnusx-1.org>	<b79371120810021826h79587722i7647336ecb2c41de@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E58063.4000404@cygnusx-1.org>
Message-ID: <48E62A09.90909@sbcglobal.net>

Nathan Grennan wrote:
> David L wrote:
>>
>> I'm almost positive I was given the upgrade option pretty early on.  So
>> if you're really not seeing it, it must be intermittent (maybe it 
>> attempts
>> to detect if there is something to upgrade and sometimes fails??)
>
>   I think it does try to detect, which is lame. It seems somehow my / 
> filesystem got left as ext4dev after I installed F10 Alpha, and then 
> went back to F9. F9 is fine with it, but the F10 Beta dvd says it 
> can't mount it, because of a unsupported feature, which I am guessing 
> is extents. I also can't remove extents from the filesystem. I did try 
> using the ext4 option, thinking it might help, but had the same problem.
>
>   I am going to have to backup and do a fresh install. I also am going 
> to file a bug report.
>
>
I'm having the same problem with mounting a device, usb drive, doesn't 
reconise Vfat.
After I updated F10 Alpha I couldn't get FrameBuff to work and I have no 
video at all, not even shell.



From guenther.fischer at hrz.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Oct  3 15:23:48 2008
From: guenther.fischer at hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Fischer?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:23:48 +0200
Subject: login error
In-Reply-To: <48E61DA7.2050801@redhat.com>
References: <a82b7ea20810022340q193a84f5y118d61a560ff978f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E61DA7.2050801@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <a82b7ea20810030823p37647bb9j132a9f7290dd0ed7@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Ray,
you are right but the magic is:
   * I've done an upgrade with correct keyboad setting.
   * In console mode the keyboard is ok
   * after login (my account or after changing passwd - the keyboard is ok

Only in the login input field I have the bad setting. Do you know the config
file to set this?

Mit freundlichen Gr??en / Regards
G?nther Fischer


On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>>
>> I've updatet to f10-Bata from f9 with rawhide. (I use f8 as production and
>> f9 for testing - now f9.91).
>> It works mostly fine for me but with a second login (my wife) log fails.
>>
>> I have done some tries:
>>  * login to console works - so I know the correct password of my wife :-)
>>    but grafical login fails
>>  * because the ist a - sign (minus) in the password, I have changed the
>> passwd from
>>    abc-def to abcdef and it works
>>
> Maybe the wrong keyboard layout is getting selected?
>
> If you type - in a text field that doesn't have bullet characters, does it
> show up as - ?
>
> --Ray
>
> --
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From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct  3 16:21:24 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:21:24 -0600
Subject: Chainloading to Rawhide
In-Reply-To: <48E624D9.7040108@omen.com>
References: <48E624D9.7040108@omen.com>
Message-ID: <20081003162124.GB27050@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 06:57:45AM -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> 
> title Chainloader+1 Fedora sda7
>    rootnoverify (hd0,1)
>    chainloader (hd0,6)+1

Setting "root" to sda2 when you are loading from sda7 does not make
much sense.  Either you do not need "rootnoverify" at all or you can do

    rootnoverify (hd0,6)
    chainloader +1

Yes, this was explained in the past on various occassions.  That
"noverify" here really means "do not try to mount and size that
partition".

   Michal



From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct  3 17:24:50 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:24:50 -0600
Subject: Bypassing CD search delay
In-Reply-To: <48E6253E.5050503@omen.com>
References: <48E6253E.5050503@omen.com>
Message-ID: <20081003172450.GC27050@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 06:59:26AM -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> To avoid a long delay while the Rawhide install looks for
> something in an empty CD drive, just put an audio CD init.

That "something" appears to be this (from anaconda logs):
.....
19:08:49 DEBUG   : drive status is CDS_NO_DISC
19:08:49 DEBUG   : /dev/sr0 reported No medium found
19:08:49 DEBUG   : /dev/sr0 reported No medium found
.....
and so on for two minutes.  That is quite thorough.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465364

I did not try such audio CD trick but passing to anaconda an
explicit location of install.img with 'stage2=...' parameter
prevents the above quite effectively too.  I wonder what happens
when there is no CD drive at all.

    Michal



From wwoods at redhat.com  Fri Oct  3 18:48:03 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:48:03 -0400
Subject: Bypassing CD search delay
In-Reply-To: <20081003172450.GC27050@mail.harddata.com>
References: <48E6253E.5050503@omen.com>
	<20081003172450.GC27050@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1223059684.3028.19.camel@zebes.localdomain>

On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 11:24 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 06:59:26AM -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> > To avoid a long delay while the Rawhide install looks for
> > something in an empty CD drive, just put an audio CD init.
> 
> That "something" appears to be this (from anaconda logs):
> .....
> 19:08:49 DEBUG   : drive status is CDS_NO_DISC
> 19:08:49 DEBUG   : /dev/sr0 reported No medium found
> 19:08:49 DEBUG   : /dev/sr0 reported No medium found
> .....
> and so on for two minutes.  That is quite thorough.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465364
> 
> I did not try such audio CD trick but passing to anaconda an
> explicit location of install.img with 'stage2=...' parameter
> prevents the above quite effectively too.  I wonder what happens
> when there is no CD drive at all.

Also no delay. 

The problem (if I understand it correctly) is that the kernel currently
doesn't tell us the difference between "drive is empty" and "drive is
getting ready, hold on". So we end up waiting for the drive to become
ready, even if it's empty.

If there's no CD drive, there's nothing to wait for, so nothing would
happen. And if there's something in the drive, we can detect that
easily. That's why putting an audio CD in the drive skips the delay.

This is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/456327 I believe.

-w



From jlaska at redhat.com  Fri Oct  3 19:32:13 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:32:13 -0400
Subject: Fedora 10 on the XO
Message-ID: <1223062333.3475.31.camel@flatline>

Greetings folks,

As you may have read on http://planet.fedoraproject.org ([1] [2]),
several folks are working to make Fedora 10 running on XO hardware "just
work".  In order to help, I'm pulling together a test plan aimed
guiding/organizing XO testers towards validating the unique environment
offered by the XO.

The test plan does not try to test every application offered in
Fedora ... only those provided on the Fedora Live ISO image.  Of those,
the highest priority will be areas that target XO hardware.

The test plan is very much in DRAFT (v0.0.1) mode, but there's no better
time to solicit feedback.  My intent is that the document will
eventually answer most/all questions surrounding the test effort.  Until
then, if something is unclear/incorrect please don't hesitate to shout. 

If you have experience with laptop testing or own an XO, I'm anxious for
your input.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO

Many thanks!
James

[1] http://gregdek.livejournal.com/36097.html
[2] http://katzj.livejournal.com/tag/olpc


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From caf at omen.com  Fri Oct  3 21:33:33 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:33:33 -0700
Subject: Rawhide install hangs after loading initrd.img
Message-ID: <48E68FAD.9040605@omen.com>

Rawhide 64 on AMD 3000+ Asus a8n-e   or Core Duo on Intel dc33bu
either pxeboot or boot.iso CD

Installation startup hangs after loading initrd.img  -- the progress
bar rapidly ramps up to 100% and then just sits there until given a
three finger salute.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 21:43:08 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:43:08 -0700
Subject: Fedora 10 on the XO
In-Reply-To: <1223062333.3475.31.camel@flatline>
References: <1223062333.3475.31.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810031443n6943e4dbj4f0b57113118c8c0@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:32 PM, James Laska wrote:
> The test plan is very much in DRAFT (v0.0.1) mode, but there's no better
> time to solicit feedback.  My intent is that the document will
> eventually answer most/all questions surrounding the test effort.  Until
> then, if something is unclear/incorrect please don't hesitate to shout.

Thanks for writing this up! I'm on the XO list and am just waiting for kit.
One thing I noticed is that several areas rely on keyboard mappings for
accelerator keys; katzj posted this link on his blog:
http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsien t/quirk/quirk-keymap-index.html
Good reading for the "Getting Started" section, or maybe a condensed
OLPC-specific primer. This might also be a good link to include:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_English_Keyboard



From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct  3 22:28:08 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:28:08 -0600
Subject: Bypassing CD search delay
In-Reply-To: <1223059684.3028.19.camel@zebes.localdomain>
References: <48E6253E.5050503@omen.com>
	<20081003172450.GC27050@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223059684.3028.19.camel@zebes.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081003222808.GA14015@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 02:48:03PM -0400, Will Woods wrote:
>
> This is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/456327 I believe.

I would not guess from a subject that this is about CD/DVD drive. :-)

Also you talk in that bug report about 15 second delay.  I looked
at timestamps in logs.  This is really around two minutes now.

   Michal



From adrian at weelife.com  Fri Oct  3 22:32:48 2008
From: adrian at weelife.com (Adrian Mandy)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:32:48 -0700
Subject: Fedora 10 on the XO
In-Reply-To: <67437bc40810031443n6943e4dbj4f0b57113118c8c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223062333.3475.31.camel@flatline>
	<67437bc40810031443n6943e4dbj4f0b57113118c8c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98be106d0810031532g2a33ac18t3ae36da82f87bba7@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Joshua Daniel Franklin
<jdf.lists at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:32 PM, James Laska wrote:
> > The test plan is very much in DRAFT (v0.0.1) mode, but there's no better
> > time to solicit feedback.  My intent is that the document will
> > eventually answer most/all questions surrounding the test effort.  Until
> > then, if something is unclear/incorrect please don't hesitate to shout.
>
> Thanks for writing this up! I'm on the XO list and am just waiting for kit.
> One thing I noticed is that several areas rely on keyboard mappings for
> accelerator keys; katzj posted this link on his blog:
> http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsien<http://people.freedesktop.org/%7Ehughsien>t/quirk/quirk-keymap-index.html
> Good reading for the "Getting Started" section, or maybe a condensed
> OLPC-specific primer. This might also be a good link to include:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_English_Keyboard
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

I got the 4GB card (the blessed one) because it came with a tiny little card
reader for free. I just installed the live image on it. I just left it
formatted as fat32 is that ok? I had to install syslinux and mark the
partition as bootable but all that is pretty obvious during the install. I
haven't tried it, don't have my XO yet. Will it only boot on an XO or will
it work on any hardware?
-- 
Adrian
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  3 23:42:36 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:42:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: mplayer fails to compile with gcc-4.2.3 :(
Message-ID: <259304.51028.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear all,

Running Fedora 10 Beta/Rawhide 

[olivares at riohigh MPlayer-1.0rc2]$ cat /etc/fedora-release 
Fedora release 9.92 (Rawhide)
[olivares at riohigh MPlayer-1.0rc2]$ uname -a
Linux riohigh 2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Thu Oct 2 21:36:18 EDT 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

First thing I like to do is compile mplayer from source and install it to play the files that do not play regularly by default.  But 

Mplayer fails to compile, bails out with 

vo_ivtv.c: In function 'ivtv_reset':
vo_ivtv.c:79: error: storage size of 'sd' isn't known
vo_ivtv.c:80: error: storage size of 'sd1' isn't known
vo_ivtv.c:84: error: 'IVTV_STOP_FL_HIDE_FRAME' undeclared (first use in this function)
vo_ivtv.c:84: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
vo_ivtv.c:84: error: for each function it appears in.)
vo_ivtv.c:87: error: 'IVTV_IOC_STOP_DECODE' undeclared (first use in this function)
vo_ivtv.c:97: error: 'IVTV_IOC_START_DECODE' undeclared (first use in this function)
vo_ivtv.c:80: warning: unused variable 'sd1'
vo_ivtv.c:79: warning: unused variable 'sd'
make[1]: *** [vo_ivtv.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/olivares/Download/MPlayer-1.0rc2/libvo'
make: *** [libvo/libvo.a] Error 2


Thanks for advice provided.

This is a new install, the other rawhide machines were compiled against gcc-4.3.0 or gcc-4.3.1?  I don't remember exactly.  

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct  3 23:44:57 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:14:57 +0530
Subject: mplayer fails to compile with gcc-4.2.3 :(
In-Reply-To: <259304.51028.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <259304.51028.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E6AE79.1010907@fedoraproject.org>

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Running Fedora 10 Beta/Rawhide 
> 
> [olivares at riohigh MPlayer-1.0rc2]$ cat /etc/fedora-release 
> Fedora release 9.92 (Rawhide)
> [olivares at riohigh MPlayer-1.0rc2]$ uname -a
> Linux riohigh 2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Thu Oct 2 21:36:18 EDT 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> First thing I like to do is compile mplayer from source and install it to play the files that do not play regularly by default.  But 
> 
> Mplayer fails to compile, 

Save yourself time and effort.

Go to rpm.livna.org.
Install livna-release for Fedora 9
Diable the stable repo and enable the development repo

# yum install mplayer

Rahul



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  3 23:49:22 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:49:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: mplayer fails to compile with gcc-4.2.3 :(
In-Reply-To: <48E6AE79.1010907@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <369853.31385.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: mplayer fails to compile with gcc-4.2.3 :(
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 4:44 PM
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > Running Fedora 10 Beta/Rawhide 
> > 
> > [olivares at riohigh MPlayer-1.0rc2]$ cat
> /etc/fedora-release 
> > Fedora release 9.92 (Rawhide)
> > [olivares at riohigh MPlayer-1.0rc2]$ uname -a
> > Linux riohigh 2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 #1 SMP
> Thu Oct 2 21:36:18 EDT 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
> > 
> > First thing I like to do is compile mplayer from
> source and install it to play the files that do not play
> regularly by default.  But 
> > 
> > Mplayer fails to compile, 
> 
> Save yourself time and effort.
> 
> Go to rpm.livna.org.
> Install livna-release for Fedora 9
> Diable the stable repo and enable the development repo
> 
> # yum install mplayer
> 
> Rahul

Will do this for other machine that a friend is building for me :)
Thank you for the suggestion.  

Currently trying the following advice from Linux Questions

./configure --disable-ivtv

Hope that it works.  I will report back.  

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 00:04:59 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:04:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: mplayer fails to compile with gcc-4.2.3 :(
In-Reply-To: <369853.31385.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <211436.37325.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> Currently trying the following advice from Linux Questions
> 
> ./configure --disable-ivtv
> 
> Hope that it works.  I will report back.  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> -- 

Success!!! 

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/code-errors-while-compiling-mplayer-650508/

./configure --disable-ivtv ==> did the trick.

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 00:23:38 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:23:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
Message-ID: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers,

Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4 filesystem vs. ext3?

I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta, but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(

Thanks,

Antonio 


      



From gerrytool at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 00:33:25 2008
From: gerrytool at gmail.com (Gerry Tool)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:33:25 -0500
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c77266e40810031733h5cb6ee69g91897d6507e2024a@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Antonio Olivares
<olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
>
> Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4 filesystem vs. ext3?
>
> I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta, but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(
>
> Thanks,
>
> Antonio

If you run Gparted, will it show the file system type correctly?



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 01:09:05 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:09:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: rpmdb: Thread/process 21524/3086247616 failed: Thread died in
	Berkeley DB library
Message-ID: <35410.87243.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers,

I tried to use xterm but it was not installed, so I wanted to yum install it, and I got message in the title.  

[root at riohigh ~]# yum install xterm
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
rpmdb: Thread/process 21524/3086247616 failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB library
rpmdb: unable to allocate memory for mutex; resize mutex region
error: cannot open Name index using db3 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
rpmdb: unable to allocate memory for mutex; resize mutex region
error: cannot open Providename index using db3 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
rpmdb: Thread/process 21524/3086247616 failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB library


What does all of that mean?

Thanks,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 01:11:10 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:11:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <c77266e40810031733h5cb6ee69g91897d6507e2024a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <149717.84826.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 5:33 PM
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Antonio Olivares
> <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dear fellow testers,
> >
> > Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4
> filesystem vs. ext3?
> >
> > I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta,
> but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Antonio
> 
> If you run Gparted, will it show the file system type
> correctly?

Gparted does not show the filesystem types?  If it does, how do I run it?
I tried LiveCD, but it does not show what filesystem type it is.  fdisk shows:

[root at riohigh ~]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xaf7caf7c

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          12       96358+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2           31841       31865      200812+  83  Linux
/dev/sda3           31866       38913    56613060   8e  Linux LVM
/dev/sda4              13       31840   255658410    5  Extended
/dev/sda5              13       26108   209616088+  83  Linux
/dev/sda6           26109       26239     1052226   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7           26240       31840    44990001   83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order
[root at riohigh ~]# 

Thanks,

Antonio 



      



From katzj at redhat.com  Sat Oct  4 01:43:14 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:43:14 -0400
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1223084594.19348.21.camel@aglarond.local>

On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 17:23 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4 filesystem vs. ext3?
> 
> I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta, but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(

libblkid can tell the difference
   /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /path/to/blkdev

Jeremy



From sandeen at redhat.com  Sat Oct  4 02:28:02 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:28:02 -0500
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <1223084594.19348.21.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1223084594.19348.21.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <48E6D4B2.4090700@redhat.com>

Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 17:23 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4 filesystem vs. ext3?
>>
>> I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta, but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(
> 
> libblkid can tell the difference
>    /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /path/to/blkdev
> 
> Jeremy
> 

or look at /proc/mounts :)

Note: if you use the ext4 boot param, you still must go to the custom
partitioning screen to choose ext4.  The boot param simply enables this
choice.

-Eric



From mike at miketc.net  Sat Oct  4 06:15:08 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:15:08 -0500
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <48E6D4B2.4090700@redhat.com>
References: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1223084594.19348.21.camel@aglarond.local>
	<48E6D4B2.4090700@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223100908.15311.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 21:28 -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:

> Note: if you use the ext4 boot param, you still must go to the custom
> partitioning screen to choose ext4.  The boot param simply enables this
> choice.

Will this still be the method to get it when it goes Gold? Or will ext4
be automatically included like ext3, in which I am assuming depending on
how testing goes to that point?

-- 
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302 at fedoraproject.org



From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Sat Oct  4 07:31:20 2008
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 09:31:20 +0200
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <149717.84826.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <c77266e40810031733h5cb6ee69g91897d6507e2024a@mail.gmail.com>
	<149717.84826.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20081004093120.d5d675d3.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:11:10 -0700 (PDT), Antonio Olivares wrote:

> > If you run Gparted, will it show the file system type
> > correctly?
> 
> Gparted does not show the filesystem types?  If it does, how do I run it?

Try:

  parted /dev/sda print

You may abbreviate "print" as "p":

  parted /dev/sda p

Parted examines the filesystems on the partitions. In case it recognises
ext4 already, it would print that.

> I tried LiveCD, but it does not show what filesystem type it is.  fdisk shows:
> 
> [root at riohigh ~]# fdisk -l

fdisk doesn't examine a partition's filesys type.



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 07:54:09 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 09:54:09 +0200
Subject: sound issues on some intel systems
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810040054i4068fc4rb3b449523c4a17b4@mail.gmail.com>

I find really funny that from one kernel to the next kernel sound
maybe good or ugly!!!
If I play a radio stream for example

kernel-2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 is fine
kernel-2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 is ugly (many breaks as system
plays faster than due and Rhythmbox buffer becomes empty)

And this happens since F9 was released (I installed a F10 kernel to
solve the problem!!) and it is recurring in F10
See for example  Bug 441087 -  Sound/music playing faster than it
should on intel chipset

So when a kernel is released first I have to check sound, if sound is
ugly delete it.

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct  4 10:58:54 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat,  4 Oct 2008 10:58:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081004 changes
Message-ID: <20081004105854.2DA521B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

New package gedit-latex-plugin
        Gedit plugin for composing and compiling LaTeX documents
New package hunspell-hy
        Armenian hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-km
        Khmer hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-mg
        Malagasy hunspell dictionaries
New package libmicrohttpd
        Lightweight library for embedding a webserver in applications
New package perl-Software-License
        Package that provides templated software licenses
New package tuxguitar
        A multitrack tablature editor and player written in Java-SWT
Removed package akode
Updated Packages:

afflib-3.3.4-4.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.3.4-4
- Fix release mismatch

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.3.4-3
- Update to 3.3.4


anaconda-11.4.1.43-1
--------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.43-1
- Disable IPv6 interface widgets in loader for now. (dcantrell)
- Start NetworkManager earlier (#462083) (hans)
- Work around gtk2 bug (#465541) (hans)
- Move our yum.conf out of /etc (#465160) (katzj)
- Correctly display the IP address a vnc viewer should connect to (#465353).
  (clumens)
- lohit-fonts-malayam has been replaced by smc-fonts-meera (#456449).
  (clumens)
- Fix a typo in cleaning up repos. (clumens)
- Fix the mount error reading for real this time (pjones, #465250). (clumens)
- Support ksdevice=link when booting from boot.iso. (dcantrell)
- Automatically select NIC based on ksdevice= boot parameter. (dcantrell)


at-spi-1.24.0-4.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1.24.0-4
- Prevent at-spi module from being unloaded


bluez-4.10-1.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.10-1
- Update to 4.10


bug-buddy-2.24.0-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.0-2
- Make the gtk module resident, since unloading it is not good


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.1.svn1336_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1336


chess-1.0-20.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Alexey Torkhov <atorkhov at gmail.com> 1.0-20
- Fixing broken deps


collectd-4.4.3-1.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Alan Pevec <apevec at redhat.com> 4.4.3-1
- new upstream bugfix release 4.4.3 http://collectd.org/news.shtml#news57


control-center-2.24.0.1-3.fc10
------------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0.1-3
- Fix help buttons in the appearance capplet


dosbox-0.72-5.fc10
------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.72-5
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


dump-0.4b41-9.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 0.4b41-9
- dump-0.4b37-2TB.patch is no longer needed
- rebuild (#464989)


eclipse-rpm-editor-0.4.0-3.fc10
-------------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 0.4.0-3
- Rebuild for #465109.

* Wed Jul 30 18:00:00 2008 Andrew Overholt <overholt at redhat.com> 0.4.0-2
- Update for Eclipse SDK 3.4
- Remove noarch potential since CDT is arch-specific and we
  ExclusiveArch


gc-7.1-4.fc10
-------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 7.1-4
- BR: libatomic_ops-devel


gdesklets-0.36-2.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Luya Tshimbalanga <luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com> - 0.36-2
- Cleaned up spec
- Minor fixes


gnu-efi-3.0e-2.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 3.0e-2
- Fix install paths on x86_64.

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 3.0e-1
- Update to 3.0e
- Fix relocation bug in 3.0e


gstreamer-0.10.21-1.fc10
------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.10.21-1
- Update to 0.10.21


gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.21-2.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.10.21-2
- Update the gstreamer requirement
- Add a gtk2-devel BR, so that the test-colorkey program will be built

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.10.21-1
- Update to 0.10.21


gtk2-2.14.3-5.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.14.3-5
- Prevent unloading of the gail module


guidance-power-manager-4.1.2-1.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.1.2-1
- 4.1.2


hunspell-ku-0.21-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.21-3
- add aliases for OOo


ibus-0.1.1.20081004-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081004-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081004.


ibus-pinyin-0.1.1.20081004-1.fc10
---------------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081004-1
- Update version to 0.1.1.20081004.


kdesvn-1.2.1-1.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 - Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 1.2.1-1
- Update to 1.2.1


kiconedit-4.1.2-1.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.1.2-1
- 4.1.2


libgdamm-3.0.1-1.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 3.0.1-1
- Update to upstream 3.0.1, bugfix release


libtheora-1.0rc1-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 1.0rc1-2
- Fix build on x86_64

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 1.0rc1-1
- Update to 1.0rc1


libusb-0.1.12-17.fc10
---------------------
* Sat Aug  2 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at redhat.com> 0.1.12-17
- apply patch from Graeme Gill to fix concurrency timeout
  handling (#456811)

* Fri Apr 18 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at redhat.com> 0.1.12-16
- rebuild to fix broken ppc build


libxml2-2.7.2-1.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Daniel Veillard <veillard at redhat.com> 2.7.2-1.fc10
- new release 2.7.2
- Fixes the known problems in 2.7.1
- increase the set of options when saving documents


liveusb-creator-3.0-2.fc10
--------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> 3.0-2
- Exclude ppc and ppc64, as syslinux will not work on those architectures.


lxsplit-0.2.4-1.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.4-1
- new upstream release


maven-wagon-1.0-0.1.a5.3.4.fc10
-------------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matt Wringe <mwringe at redhat.com> - 0:1.0-0.1.a5.3.4
- added patch to make it compatible with the newer version of jsch


mtools-3.9.11-5.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 3.9.11-5
- mtools-3.9.9-noargs.patch and mtools-3.9.6-paths.patch are not needed
- rebuild (#465040)


netbsd-iscsi-20080207-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> - 20080207-1
- Update to more recent upstream code
- Remove the silly prealocation code (#465533)


nntpgrab-0.3.92-2.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Erik van Pienbroek <info at nntpgrab.nl> - 0.3.92-2
- Tarball was respun by upstream

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Erik van Pienbroek <info at nntpgrab.nl> - 0.3.92-1
- Update to 0.3.92
- Drop upstreamed patch


packagekit-qt-0.1-2.fc10
------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.1-2
- Properly split into main and -devel package, not just -devel
- Run ldconfig in %post and %postun


paraview-3.4.0-0.20081002.1.fc10
--------------------------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 3.4.0-0.20081002.1
- Update 3.4.0 CVS snapshot
- Update gcc43 patch
- Drop qt patch, upstream now allows compiling against Qt 4.4.*


perl-Module-CPANTS-Analyse-0.82-2.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com> - 0.82-2
- Added more new & missing BRs

* Fri Sep  5 18:00:00 2008 Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com> - 0.82-1
- Update to 0.82 release


revelation-0.4.11-5.1
---------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Jef Spaleta <jspaleta at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.11-5.1
- Depchain fix.

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Jef Spaleta <jspaleta at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.11-5
- Minor patch to ui.py to fix broken menu generation.


rhm-0.2.2578-1.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Nuno Santos <nsantos at redhat.com> - 0.2.2578-1
- Rebased to svn revision 2578


rhythmbox-0.11.6-12.5966.fc10
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.11.6-12.r5966
- Update to latest trunk
- Fix license info to match that of upstream


roundup-1.4.6-1.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Paul P. Komkoff Jr <i at stingr.net> - 1.4.6-1
- new upstream version


rsh-0.17-51.fc10
----------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 0.17-51
- updated ipv6 patch due rpm 4.6 (#465053)
- make in.rshd working on kernels without audit support (#448904)


scipy-0.6.0-7.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Jef Spaleta <jspaleta at fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.0-7
- fix the stsci fix

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Jef Spaleta <jspaleta at fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.0-6
- include missing setup files for stsci module


selinux-policy-3.5.10-2.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.10-2
- Allow confined users and xdm to exec wm
- Allow nsplugin to talk to fifo files on nfs

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.10-1
- Allow NetworkManager to transition to avahi and iptables
- Allow domains to search other domains keys, coverup kernel bug


sim-0.9.5-0.10.20080923svn2261rev.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Pavel Alexeev <Pahan [ at ] Hubbitus [ DOT ] spb [ dOt.] su> - 0.9.5-0.9.20080923svn2261rev
- Add %{?dist} into Release!
- Add icon-update-code into %post/%postun. (thanks to Patrice Dumas)

* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Pavel Alexeev <Pahan [ at ] Hubbitus [ DOT ] spb [ dOt.] su> - 0.9.5-0.8.20080923svn2261rev
- Add BR desktop-file-utils

* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Pavel Alexeev <Pahan [ at ] Hubbitus [ DOT ] spb [ dOt.] su> - 0.9.5-0.10.20080923svn2261rev
- Replace %post -p /sbin/ldconfig by simlply:
	%post
	/sbin/ldconfig
	And accodingly in %postun due tu rpmlint warning:
	sim.i386: E: postin-without-ldconfig /usr/lib/libsim.so.0.0.0
	(I not found what mean -p key, but appologise what it designed to run 1 command only)

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Pavel Alexeev <Pahan [ at ] Hubbitus [ DOT ] spb [ dOt.] su> - 0.9.5-0.7.20080923svn2261rev
- By suggestion of Patrice Dumas use macros bcond_with instead of manual define with_kde
- For Fedora8 BR kdebase changed to kdebase-devel for fedora > 8 add BR kdebase3-devel >= 3.0.0 (Patrice Dumas)
- Remove CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS" CXXFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS" and $LOCALFLAGS
	in configure, and "rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_DIR/%{name}-%{version}" in %clean,
	gcc and gcc-c++ from BR (Patrice Dumas)
- Use make %{?_smp_mflags} instead of manually determine number of CPUs (Patrice Dumas)
- Remove Distribution: Fedora. (Patrice Dumas)


slapi-nis-0.8.1-1.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 0.8.1-1
- update to 0.8.1 to fix a heap corruption (Rich Megginson)


sleuthkit-3.0.0-0.1.b4.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.0.0-0.1.b4
- Update to 3.0.0b4


tuxcmd-0.6.50-1.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com> 0.6.50-1
- Update to v0.6.50


xdelta-1.1.4-4.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 1.1.4-4
- updated patches due rpm 4.6 (#465102)


xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.0.6-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 2.0.6-1
- update to 2.0.6
- remove patches merged upstream.


Summary:
Added Packages: 7
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 50
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.i386 requires libbluetooth.so.2
	beagle-evolution-0.3.8-6.fc10.i386 requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:3.0.0.0
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libdlm.so.2
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
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From keith at karsites.net  Sat Oct  4 12:57:02 2008
From: keith at karsites.net (Keith Roberts)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 13:57:02 +0100 (BST)
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <149717.84826.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <149717.84826.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810041354550.27780@www.karsites.net>

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>     <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>, Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com>
> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
> 
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
>> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 5:33 PM
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Antonio Olivares
>> <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Dear fellow testers,
>>>
>>> Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4
>> filesystem vs. ext3?
>>>
>>> I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta,
>> but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>
>> If you run Gparted, will it show the file system type
>> correctly?
>
> Gparted does not show the filesystem types?  If it does, 
> how do I run it? I tried LiveCD, but it does not show what 
> filesystem type it is.  fdisk shows:

On F8 Gparted shows the filesystem types for me. However it 
does not show or appear to support the ext4 fs type yet.

HTH

Keith

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From sandeen at redhat.com  Sat Oct  4 13:37:52 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:37:52 -0500
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <1223100908.15311.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
References: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<1223084594.19348.21.camel@aglarond.local>	<48E6D4B2.4090700@redhat.com>
	<1223100908.15311.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
Message-ID: <48E771B0.5090002@redhat.com>

Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 21:28 -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> 
>> Note: if you use the ext4 boot param, you still must go to the custom
>> partitioning screen to choose ext4.  The boot param simply enables this
>> choice.
> 
> Will this still be the method to get it when it goes Gold? Or will ext4
> be automatically included like ext3, in which I am assuming depending on
> how testing goes to that point?

Good question.  There's no consensus upstream to drop the "dev" from
"ext4dev" yet, so it may remain as a boot option for this release, yet.

I think it may technically require a fedora "feature" change to to drop
the boot argument at this point, but I'm not certain...

It certainly won't be switched in as the *default* for F10, though.

-Eric



From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Sat Oct  4 13:44:46 2008
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:44:46 +0100
Subject: F10 beta KDE LiveCD
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081002T072343-447@post.gmane.org>
References: <200810011139.00724.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<200810011518.47855.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
	<loom.20081002T072343-447@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200810041444.46343.cannewilson@googlemail.com>

On Thursday 02 October 2008 08:27:17 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Anne Wilson <cannewilson <at> googlemail.com> writes:
> > I couldn't get any sound from opening test files with available
> > applications.
>
> It's probably muted, check your ALSA settings in KMix. Normally, the sound
> hardware is supposed to be unmuted by the init scripts (ALSA defaults to
> all muted), but that got broken by an ALSA change. The initscripts package
> has been fixed in yesterday's Rawhide, but the fix didn't make the F10Beta
> cut.
>
You were right.  I had pushed the volume slider up, but hadn't opened the full 
mixer, so hadn't seen the mute checkmarks.

The result, then, is that .ogg files play in Dragon Player and Juk, but I 
can't get any sound out of amarok.

Anne
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From davidwmack at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 14:35:35 2008
From: davidwmack at gmail.com (David Mack)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 07:35:35 -0700
Subject: F10beta hangs during kickstart install
Message-ID: <753ec7300810040735v575ce13bo3134e7226f2c495b@mail.gmail.com>

On a Dell GX270, doing an HTTP kickstart installation, F10beta
launches Anaconda and gets to "waiting for hardware to initialize",
then hangs.

Is anyone else seeing this?


Dave



From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 14:42:03 2008
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:42:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
References: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<1223084594.19348.21.camel@aglarond.local>	<48E6D4B2.4090700@redhat.com>
	<1223100908.15311.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
	<48E771B0.5090002@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20081004T143923-875@post.gmane.org>

Eric Sandeen <sandeen <at> redhat.com> writes:

> Good question.  There's no consensus upstream to drop the "dev" from
> "ext4dev" yet, so it may remain as a boot option for this release, yet.
> 
> I think it may technically require a fedora "feature" change to to drop
> the boot argument at this point, but I'm not certain...
> 
> It certainly won't be switched in as the *default* for F10, though.

Ultimately when id does become default I wonder what the situation will be 
if you install clean for F11+ and make the / partition default formatted
to ext4, but there may be other pre-existing ext3 /opt or /home paritions that
have lots of files on which should not be formatted....

In that case is there a way to convert the ext3 to ext4 whilst retaining
all the pre-existing files?  If not then would the system be happy having
ext4 / partition as well as co-existing ext3 /opt and /home partitions on 
a single system?







From john5342 at googlemail.com  Sat Oct  4 14:48:05 2008
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:48:05 +0100
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081004T143923-875@post.gmane.org>
References: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1223084594.19348.21.camel@aglarond.local>
	<48E6D4B2.4090700@redhat.com>
	<1223100908.15311.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
	<48E771B0.5090002@redhat.com>
	<loom.20081004T143923-875@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0810040748k2bffbb81pa0221d46fef84fb3@mail.gmail.com>

>In that case is there a way to convert the ext3 to ext4 whilst retaining
>all the pre-existing files?  If not then would the system be happy having
>ext4 / partition as well as co-existing ext3 /opt and /home partitions on
>a single system?
To the best of my knowledge ext3 can be converted to ext4 simply by mounting
ext3 as ext4 with only minor limitations (same can be done from ext2 to
ext3. Therefore formatting ext3 partitions to take advantage of ext4 should
not be necessary.

2008/10/4 Mike <mike.cloaked at gmail.com>

> Eric Sandeen <sandeen <at> redhat.com> writes:
>
> > Good question.  There's no consensus upstream to drop the "dev" from
> > "ext4dev" yet, so it may remain as a boot option for this release, yet.
> >
> > I think it may technically require a fedora "feature" change to to drop
> > the boot argument at this point, but I'm not certain...
> >
> > It certainly won't be switched in as the *default* for F10, though.
>
> Ultimately when id does become default I wonder what the situation will be
> if you install clean for F11+ and make the / partition default formatted
> to ext4, but there may be other pre-existing ext3 /opt or /home paritions
> that
> have lots of files on which should not be formatted....
>
> In that case is there a way to convert the ext3 to ext4 whilst retaining
> all the pre-existing files?  If not then would the system be happy having
> ext4 / partition as well as co-existing ext3 /opt and /home partitions on
> a single system?
>
>
>
>
>
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From sandeen at redhat.com  Sat Oct  4 15:56:41 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:56:41 -0500
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <6dc6523c0810040748k2bffbb81pa0221d46fef84fb3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<1223084594.19348.21.camel@aglarond.local>	<48E6D4B2.4090700@redhat.com>	<1223100908.15311.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>	<48E771B0.5090002@redhat.com>	<loom.20081004T143923-875@post.gmane.org>
	<6dc6523c0810040748k2bffbb81pa0221d46fef84fb3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48E79239.6040102@redhat.com>

John5342 wrote:
>>In that case is there a way to convert the ext3 to ext4 whilst retaining
>>all the pre-existing files?  If not then would the system be happy having
>>ext4 / partition as well as co-existing ext3 /opt and /home partitions on
>>a single system?
> To the best of my knowledge ext3 can be converted to ext4 simply by
> mounting ext3 as ext4 with only minor limitations (same can be done from
> ext2 to ext3. Therefore formatting ext3 partitions to take advantage of
> ext4 should not be necessary.

That's largely correct.

You can mount any ext3 partition as ext4, but you'll get varying degrees
of ext4 advantages that way.

ext2->ext3 was actually a bit simpler, as ext3 when it was first
introduced really was pretty much just ext2+journal.  There are many
more changes in ext4, many of which have different disk format implications.

ext3 filesystems created in F9 or later will have larger inodes, which
leaves room for some of the new features in ext4.  Simply mounting ext3
as ext4 leaves existing files in the old format... there are conversion
tools for both of these things, but they have not had a huge amount of
testing yet.  There are also mkfs-time geometry changes (flex_bg for
one) which you don't get if you migrate a filesystem.

-Eric



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 16:15:24 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 09:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <1223084594.19348.21.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <795853.36353.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 6:43 PM
> On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 17:23 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4
> filesystem vs. ext3?
> > 
> > I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta,
> but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(
> 
> libblkid can tell the difference
>    /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /path/to/blkdev
> 
> Jeremy

Jeremy,

Thank you very much, and to all who also have answered.  I have found out that i am running indeed ext4, but it says ext4dev, Here's the proof

[olivares at riohigh ~]$ su -
Password: 
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /path/to/blkdev
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/
Display all 238 possibilities? (y or n)
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/s
scd0        sda2        sda6        sg0         snapshot    stderr
scd1        sda3        sda7        sg1         snd/        stdin
sda         sda4        sequencer   sg2         sr0         stdout
sda1        sda5        sequencer2  shm/        sr1         systty
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda1 
/dev/sda1: TYPE="ext3" 
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda2
/dev/sda2: TYPE="ext3" 
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda3
/dev/sda3: TYPE="lvm2pv" 
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda4
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda5
/dev/sda5: TYPE="ext4dev" 
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda6
/dev/sda6: TYPE="swap" 
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda7
/dev/sda7: TYPE="ext3" 
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda8
[root at riohigh ~]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xaf7caf7c

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          12       96358+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2           31841       31865      200812+  83  Linux
/dev/sda3           31866       38913    56613060   8e  Linux LVM
/dev/sda4              13       31840   255658410    5  Extended
/dev/sda5              13       26108   209616088+  83  Linux
/dev/sda6           26109       26239     1052226   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7           26240       31840    44990001   83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order
[root at riohigh ~]# 


sda5 is the partion in which F10 Beta resides: 

[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda5
/dev/sda5: TYPE="ext4dev" 

Best regards,

Antonio 


      



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sat Oct  4 16:34:18 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:34:18 -0600
Subject: F10 and nVidia ==> Big Problems
Message-ID: <1223138058.21310.30.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>

This was also a problem on F9, but it is now worse on F10 beta. Video
simply fails to load on my system using the F10 live CD. This happens on
both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. I've reproduced this on other similar
computers as well.

Video attempts to load at bootup but eventually fails and drops to a
text mode login prompt. My system is a self-built machine. Here's the
specific video oriented info:

EVGA e-7100/630i Motherboard
- Onboard nVidia GeForce 7100 GPU
- nVidia nForce 630i chip set

I have 4GB RAM and a Intel Quad-Core processor.

When I loaded F9, I worked around the problem by:
1) Waiting for the live system to fail back to text mode
2) Logging in as root at the text prompt
3) Run system-config-display and accepting the detected defaults
4) Run startx to start the gui
5) Run the installer as normal

Post-install, the OpenSource nv driver would load and provide a
reasonable display resolution until I could install the Livna nVidia
drivers.

On F10, system-config-display is no longer there! So instead I have to:
1) Wait for the live system to fail back to text mode
2) Log in as root at the text prompt
3) Install system-config-display (yum -y install system-config-display)
4) Run system-config-display and accept the detected defaults (nothing
else works)
5) Run startx to start the gui
6) Run the installer as normal

However, on F10, startx only provides 800x600 resolution, despite that
my display is capable of 1920x1200.

Can we get this fixed in F10 please? I'm happy to Bugzilla this if it
isn't there already.

Cheers,

Chris

--
=========================================
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is."

--Yogi Berra



From drago01 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 16:55:42 2008
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 18:55:42 +0200
Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
In-Reply-To: <48E619ED.10400@redhat.com>
References: <43404.10751.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<48E619ED.10400@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0810040955k717be3d3taa5eabaf4371c740@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> wrote:
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
>>> To: fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com
>>> Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:21 PM
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Doing a dmesg I see some denied avcs for npviewer
>>>
>>> I will attach the file,  I have not seen setroubleshoot
>>> kick in to warn me about these avcs.  Has anyone else seen
>>> these?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>>
>>>       --
>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> To unsubscribe:
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>> Messages were not attached, file too big :(
>>
>> Here's preview :)
>>
>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1308): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir
>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1309): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.903:1310): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.922:1311): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Looks like npviewer is becoming dbus aware.  I will allow it to connect
> to the dbus server, but I am not sure what service it is trying to
> communicate with.

the packagekit plugin tryes to connect to daemon?



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 17:01:22 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (kwhiskerz)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:01:22 -0600
Subject: Gnome-Keyring-Daemon
Message-ID: <gc87h8$ie8$1@ger.gmane.org>

I have been getting this message repeated about 3 times in my logwatch output every day for some time:

kdm: :0: gnome-keyring-daemon: couldn't lookup keyring component setting: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Not running within active session)gnome-keyring-daemon: couldn't lookup ssh component setting: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Not running within active session)gnome-keyring-daemon: couldn't lookup pkcs11 component setting: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details - !
  1: Not running within active session): 1 Time(s)

What is this and how can it be remedied?



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sat Oct  4 17:20:12 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 19:20:12 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: F10 and nVidia ==> Big Problems
In-Reply-To: <1223138058.21310.30.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
References: <1223138058.21310.30.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810041916530.3134@sandbox.cz>

> Post-install, the OpenSource nv driver would load and provide a
> reasonable display resolution until I could install the Livna nVidia
> drivers.
>
> On F10, system-config-display is no longer there! So instead I have to:
> 1) Wait for the live system to fail back to text mode
> 2) Log in as root at the text prompt
> 3) Install system-config-display (yum -y install system-config-display)
> 4) Run system-config-display and accept the detected defaults (nothing
> else works)
> 5) Run startx to start the gui
> 6) Run the installer as normal
>
> However, on F10, startx only provides 800x600 resolution, despite that
> my display is capable of 1920x1200.

I used F10beta Live with nVidia Corporation GeForce 6100 nForce 430 (rev 
a2) and I get GUI right after boot, however I also have resolution 
somewhere around 800x600. Setting monitor manually in 
system-config-display to whatever else got me to +-1920x1200. Obviously 
there is something sub-optimal..

>
> Chris
>

Adam Pribyl



From the.masch at gmail.com  Sun Oct  5 06:10:42 2008
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:10:42 -0300
Subject: Fedora 10 beta ...Module em2880_dvb
Message-ID: <93d66b780810042310i5e3e4a66o3185c6fe8613d3bc@mail.gmail.com>

HI!
I'm trying to make it works my D-LINK DUB-T210 TV Card.It's fedora
beta 10 compatibly with Module em2880_dvd?

Salu2...



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct  5 06:09:55 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 08:09:55 +0200
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <48E4DE2B.6070605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810020454k3d91f67ag824e5a6db623bf10@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E4C63A.3030500@fi.muni.cz> <48E4DE2B.6070605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810042309o98ca88ex5d03d8f96aa13dc5@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/2 Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net>:
> Milos Jakubicek wrote:
>>>
>>> Will you give a look at the following bugs???:
>>>
>>>  Bug 461772 -  If I upgrade xorg-drv-i810 I can't start graphically my
>>> system
>>>  Bug 462605 -  kernel updates prevent graphic login
>>
>> Same problem here, but it seems to be related to gdm, after switching to
>> kdm it worked.
>>
>> I'll post my /var/log/messages to #462605
>>
>> Regards,
>> Milos
>>
> How and where did you change the gdm to kdm settings.
> I can use the FC10-KDE-live cd and make changes through Dolphin SU.
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

with 2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 kernel and latest
xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.4.2-9.fc10, gdm-2.24.0-8.fc10, everything is
running fine.

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From luya at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct  5 06:45:41 2008
From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:45:41 -0700
Subject: F10 and nVidia ==> Big Problems
In-Reply-To: <1223138058.21310.30.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
References: <1223138058.21310.30.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
Message-ID: <48E86295.90902@fedoraproject.org>

Christopher A. Williams a ?crit :
> Video attempts to load at bootup but eventually fails and drops to a
> text mode login prompt. My system is a self-built machine. Here's the
> specific video oriented info:
>
> EVGA e-7100/630i Motherboard
> - Onboard nVidia GeForce 7100 GPU
> - nVidia nForce 630i chip set
>
>   
Sounds like an issue related with onboard nVidia. In my case,
nVidia GeForce 7800GS runs without problem. Please submit a bug report.

Luya

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From jamatos at fc.up.pt  Sun Oct  5 10:01:40 2008
From: jamatos at fc.up.pt (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jos=E9_Matos?=)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:01:40 +0100
Subject: rpmdb: Thread/process 21524/3086247616 failed: Thread died in
	Berkeley DB library
In-Reply-To: <35410.87243.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <35410.87243.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200810051104.55524.jamatos@fc.up.pt>

On Saturday 04 October 2008 02:09:05 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
>
> I tried to use xterm but it was not installed, so I wanted to yum install
> it, and I got message in the title.
>
> [root at riohigh ~]# yum install xterm
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> rpmdb: Thread/process 21524/3086247616 failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB
> library rpmdb: unable to allocate memory for mutex; resize mutex region
> error: cannot open Name index using db3 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
> rpmdb: unable to allocate memory for mutex; resize mutex region
> error: cannot open Providename index using db3 - Cannot allocate memory
> (12) rpmdb: Thread/process 21524/3086247616 failed: Thread died in Berkeley
> DB library

rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/__db.*

should allow you to continue. At least it does to me. :-)

> What does all of that mean?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Antonio

-- 
Jos? Ab?lio



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct  5 12:13:24 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun,  5 Oct 2008 12:13:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081005 changes
Message-ID: <20081005121324.90CB61F825C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Updated Packages:

beagle-0.3.8-7.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 0.3.8-7
- Update epiphany patch


bluez-4.11-1.fc10
-----------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.11-1
- Update to 4.11


bluez-gnome-1.8-1.fc10
----------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.8-1
- Update to 1.8 and update obex-data-server patch


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.1.svn1337_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1337


claws-mail-3.6.0-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 3.6.0-1
- version upgrade
- transition smime from claws-mail-plugins to claws-mail package


claws-mail-plugins-3.6.0-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 3.6.0-1
- version upgrade
- transition smime from plugins to main package

* Mon Sep  8 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 3.5.0-2
- rebuild

* Mon Jun 30 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 3.5.0-1
- version upgrade
- upstream dropped pdf plugin
- new archive plugin


control-center-2.24.0.1-4.fc10
------------------------------

cppunit-1.12.1-1.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Sep 18 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 1.12.1-1
- Update to 1.12.1


eel2-2.24.0-4.fc10
------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-4
- Fix problem in last patch that was preventing crossfades
  in appearance capplet


fwknop-1.9.8-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Miloslav Trma?? <mitr at redhat.com> - 1.9.8-1
- Update to fwknop-1.9.8
- Add missing Requires:
- Use the "nodeps" tarball


gimmix-0.5.1-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 0.5.1
- version upgrade


guitone-0.9-1.fc10
------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 0.9-1
- Update to version 0.9.


hardinfo-0.4.2.3-8.fc10
-----------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.4.2.3-8
- Apply the patch

* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.4.2.3-7
- Fix build RH #465047


kcoloredit-4.1.2-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4.1.2-1
- 4.1.2


kernel-2.6.27-0.391.rc8.git7.fc10
---------------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
- Update to the latest git (2 patches.)

* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
- Support building -stable RC kernels.

* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
- Make applesmc driver stop spewing messages. (#463756)

* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27-rc8-git7

* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27-rc8-git6

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Kyle McMartin <kyle at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27-rc8-git5

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse at intel.com>
- Include arch/$ARCH/include/ directories in kernel-devel (#465486)
- Include arch/powerpc/lib/crtsavres.[So] too (#464613)

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- Demodularise some of the devicemapper modules that always get loaded.

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
- specfile: don't use the latest stable update for the vanilla directory.


kgrab-0.1.1-10.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 0.1.1-10
- 4.1.2

* Fri Aug 29 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 0.1.1-9
- 4.1.1


koffice-langpack-1.6.3-2.fc10
-----------------------------
* Sun Dec  9 17:00:00 2007 Rex Dieter <rdieter[AT]fedoraproject.org>
1.6.3-2
- BR: kdelibs3-devel
- License: GPLv2+


konq-plugins-4.1.2-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4.1.2-1
- 4.1.2


libAfterImage-1.18-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 1.18-1
- version upgrade


lock-keys-applet-1.0-15.fc10
----------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Jorge Torres <jtorresh at gmail.com> - 1.0-15
- Remove use of deprecated GTK+ functions
- Rebuild to fix FTBFS (bug #464994)


openoffice.org-3.0.0-9.2.fc10
-----------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Caol??n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1:3.0.0-9.2
- Resolves: rhbz#465427 wrong order of seds
- Resolves: rhbz#465515 use --force to avoid any potential problems where
  upgrading a hand-added extension


pam_mysql-0.7-0.6.rc1.fc10
--------------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Paul P. Komkoff Jr <i at stingr.net> - 0.7-0.6.rc1
- Fix bz#465186 (credits go to: Philippe Troin)


system-switch-displaymanager-1.2-2.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 1.2-2
- add %dist


tetex-tex4ht-1.0.2008_09_16_1413-1.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 1.0.2008_09_16_1413-1
- update to 2008_09_16_1413
- adapt to texlive


xastir-1.9.4-3.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Lucian Langa <cooly at gnome.eu.org> - 1.9.4-3
- fix for RH #435762


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 25
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----------------------------------------------------------
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----------------------------------------------------------
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	gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0
	gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0()(64bit)
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libdlm.so.2
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libopcodes-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libbfd-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so
	syncevolution-0.7-3.fc10.ppc requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0()(64bit)
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	livecd-tools-018-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libcman.so.2()(64bit)
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libdlm.so.2()(64bit)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Actor)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Film)
	perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-7.fc10.noarch requires perl(Director)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	syncevolution-0.7-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0()(64bit)





From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Sun Oct  5 12:24:21 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 08:24:21 -0400
Subject: graphical login never appears
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810042309o98ca88ex5d03d8f96aa13dc5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810012238.55447.kwhiskerz@gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810012223r698b5062lec4eaca65004535a@mail.gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0810020446w26e1917bl301144031c0b4199@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810020454k3d91f67ag824e5a6db623bf10@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E4C63A.3030500@fi.muni.cz> <48E4DE2B.6070605@sbcglobal.net>
	<4c37b6af0810042309o98ca88ex5d03d8f96aa13dc5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810050524o7435d5a5t1e2ba59bb219aa0e@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2008/10/2 Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net>:
> > Milos Jakubicek wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Will you give a look at the following bugs???:
> >>>
> >>>  Bug 461772 -  If I upgrade xorg-drv-i810 I can't start graphically my
> >>> system
> >>>  Bug 462605 -  kernel updates prevent graphic login
> >>
> >> Same problem here, but it seems to be related to gdm, after switching to
> >> kdm it worked.
> >>
> >> I'll post my /var/log/messages to #462605
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Milos
> >>
> > How and where did you change the gdm to kdm settings.
> > I can use the FC10-KDE-live cd and make changes through Dolphin SU.
>
> with 2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 kernel and latest
> xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.4.2-9.fc10, gdm-2.24.0-8.fc10, everything is
> running fine.


Same here, the problem went away 3 days ago.
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From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?QXJtYW50YXM=?=)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:57:32 +0200
Subject: Sun JAVA JDK 6
Message-ID: <391cb6f12cf4a9c0aa80469fb4900597@fcp.surfsite.org>

Hi how to install Sun JAVA JDK 6 in fedora? When i trying to install i get this error:

Press Enter to continue.....

./jdk-6u5-linux-i586-rpm.bin: line 99: 757 Aborted "$javaprefix/bin/java" com.sun.servicetag.Installer -source "$source" "$register_option" > /dev/null 2>&1

Done.


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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:57:37 +0200
Subject: 2.6.26.3-29 no pnp devices found
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Hi all. After upgrading to 2.6.26.3-29 kernel during boot I'm getting a message: 

isapnp: Searching for pnp devices
isapnp: No pnp devices found

I'm using Asus A6J laptop. I,m new to linux, maby i'm missing something. Thanks in advance. Cheers


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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Sun Oct  5 14:10:40 2008
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:10:40 +0800
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <524745.69169.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E8CAE0.50206@herakles.homelinux.org>

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
> 
> Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4 filesystem vs. ext3?
> 
> I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta, but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Antonio 
> 
> 
>       
> 
df -t ext4


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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Sun Oct  5 14:14:22 2008
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:14:22 +0800
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <795853.36353.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <795853.36353.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E8CBBE.1020900@herakles.homelinux.org>

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com>
>> Subject: Re: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
>> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 6:43 PM
>> On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 17:23 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>> Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4
>> filesystem vs. ext3?
>>> I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta,
>> but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(
>>
>> libblkid can tell the difference
>>    /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /path/to/blkdev
>>
>> Jeremy
> 
> Jeremy,
> 
> Thank you very much, and to all who also have answered.  I have found out that i am running indeed ext4, but it says ext4dev, Here's the proof

<snip>

> [root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda5
> /dev/sda5: TYPE="ext4dev" 
> 

In that case, my earlier suggestion needs some translation:-)


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From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Sun Oct  5 14:36:18 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 07:36:18 -0700
Subject: Fedora 10 on the XO
In-Reply-To: <98be106d0810031532g2a33ac18t3ae36da82f87bba7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223062333.3475.31.camel@flatline>
	<67437bc40810031443n6943e4dbj4f0b57113118c8c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<98be106d0810031532g2a33ac18t3ae36da82f87bba7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810050736o6acd04b3j14a31920603d74f7@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Adrian Mandy  wrote:
> I got the 4GB card (the blessed one) because it came with a tiny little card
> reader for free. I just installed the live image on it. I just left it
> formatted as fat32 is that ok? I had to install syslinux and mark the

You should use the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script which takes care of that:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card

It dd's the OLPC disk image, including partition and filesystem information.



From wwoods at redhat.com  Sun Oct  5 14:57:11 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:57:11 -0400
Subject: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
In-Reply-To: <149717.84826.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <149717.84826.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1223218631.5190.2.camel@zebes.localdomain>

On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 18:11 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: is there a way to tell that you have ext4 filesystem vs ext3
> > To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> > Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 5:33 PM
> > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Antonio Olivares
> > <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Dear fellow testers,
> > >
> > > Is there a way to tell if one is running ext4
> > filesystem vs. ext3?

Run 'mount'. If it's ext4, the filesystem will be listed as 'ext4dev'.

> > > I used ext4 boot parameter to install Fedora 10 Beta,
> > but I am not sure that the filesystem is ext4 :(

Unless you did custom partitioning and told it to use ext4, you got the
standard setup - which means ext3. 

> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Antonio
> > 
> > If you run Gparted, will it show the file system type
> > correctly?
> 
> Gparted does not show the filesystem types?  If it does, how do I run it?
> I tried LiveCD, but it does not show what filesystem type it is.  fdisk shows:
> 
> [root at riohigh ~]# fdisk -l

fdisk shows the *partition* type. partitions can contain any filesystem
type that Linux knows about. So this won't help.

-w



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct  5 15:34:16 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:34:16 +0200
Subject: flac file
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810050834j1a6af755i13da34f5af8f4b39@mail.gmail.com>

Has somebody played one file with this extension???
I get many interruptions...and it re-starts immediately after 5 seconds of play.
Any idea??

Tnx

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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  5 16:32:41 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:32:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: flac file
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810050834j1a6af755i13da34f5af8f4b39@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <633175.33239.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
> Subject: flac file
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 8:34 AM
> Has somebody played one file with this extension???
> I get many interruptions...and it re-starts immediately
> after 5 seconds of play.
> Any idea??
> 
> Tnx
> 
> -- 
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> 
> -- 

What are you using to play the file?

If it makes any difference?

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct  5 16:38:12 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:38:12 +0200
Subject: flac file
In-Reply-To: <633175.33239.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810050834j1a6af755i13da34f5af8f4b39@mail.gmail.com>
	<633175.33239.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810050938w164718efv6c8266e6042301b7@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/5 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>:
> --- On Sun, 10/5/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>> Subject: flac file
>> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>> Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 8:34 AM
>> Has somebody played one file with this extension???
>> I get many interruptions...and it re-starts immediately
>> after 5 seconds of play.
>> Any idea??
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>> --
>
> What are you using to play the file?
>
> If it makes any difference?
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
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From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl  Sun Oct  5 17:30:17 2008
From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:30:17 +0200
Subject: Sun JAVA JDK 6
In-Reply-To: <391cb6f12cf4a9c0aa80469fb4900597@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <391cb6f12cf4a9c0aa80469fb4900597@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <20081005173016.GQ19785@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>

On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 03:57:32PM +0200, Armantas wrote:
> Hi how to install Sun JAVA JDK 6 in fedora? When i trying to install
> i get this error:

You no longer need to install that from Sun. OpenJDK 1.6 is already
included in Fedora.

yum install java-devel

should be sufficient.

Regards,
R.

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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct  6 11:51:46 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon,  6 Oct 2008 11:51:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081006 changes
Message-ID: <20081006115146.968411F81C8@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

New package mediawiki-imagemap
        The ImageMap extension for MediaWiki
New package php-laconica
        PHP tool for microblogging
New package vldocking
        A Java ??? docking system for JFC Swing applications
Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-pptp-0.7.0-0.11.svn4027.fc10
-------------------------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> 1:0.7.0-11.svn4027
- Add pptp dependency (#465644)


abcm2ps-5.9.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Gerard Milmeister <gemi at bluewin.ch> - 5.9.1-1
- new release 5.9.1


expendable-0.0.4-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 0.0.4-2
- 0.0.4.  No longer need packing patch.


fakechroot-2.8-15.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> - 2.8-15
- Fix getpeername/getsockname socklen initialization.


fakeroot-1.9.7-18.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> - 1.9.7-18
- Update to 1.9.7.


freedink-1.08.20080920-4.fc10
-----------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Sylvain Beucler <beuc at beuc.net> - 1.08.20080920-4
- Use liberation-fonts in all distro versions


glibmm24-2.18.0-3.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 2.18.0-3
- Patch error.h directly rather than error.hg

* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 2.18.0-2
- Backport upstream fix that resolves HOST_NOT_FOUND
  symbol conflicts (GNOME #529496)


gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.10-5.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 0.10.10-5
- Fix gst-plugins-good-0.10.9-libv4l.patch to also patch config.in and
  Makefile.in so that the libv4l code actually gets enabled for real this time
  and remove plenty of egg from face for not fixing this properly in 0.10.10-2
  (rh465599)
- Explicitly disable pulse plugin so the spec builds even if you
  have the pulse devel packages installed.


hunspell-ca-0.20081005-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.20081005-1
- latest version


ibus-0.1.1.20081005-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081005-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081005.


kernel-2.6.27-0.392.rc8.git7.fc10
---------------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- drm-fix-drm-mode-h.patch - fix drm mode .h header


libcanberra-0.10-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter at redhat.com> 0.10-1
- New version


linkage-0.2.0-3.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.2.0-3
- Rebuild


ltsp-5.1.26-1.fc10
------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 5.1.26-1
- Fix copying of mkinitrd config file within chroot

* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 5.1.25-1
- Bug #462228 Prevent bogus mkinitrd config from landing on systems who
  accidentally install ltsp-client for no good reason. (Thanks John Ellson)
- Remove irrelevant plugins from package


mediawiki-1.13.2-41.fc10
------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> - 1.13.2-41
- Update to 1.13.2.


obex-data-server-0.3.99-2.fc10
------------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.3.99-2
- Update to rev 1998
- Use gdk-pixbuf instead of ImageMagick for BIP support


perl-DBIx-Class-0.08010-8.fc10
------------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.08010-8
- filter all prov/req from anything under _docdir
- note we still filter perl(DBD::Multi), at least until review bug bz#465690
  is completed...
- ...and perl(DBD::Pg) will always be filtered


pulseaudio-0.9.13-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter at redhat.com> 0.9.13-1
- New release


renrot-1.1-0.3.rc3.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Andy Shevchenko <andy at smile.org.ua> - 1.1-0.3.rc3
- update to 1.1rc3
- change License to Artistic 2.0 accordingly to mainstream
- update URLs
- require (optional) Image::Magick


revisor-2.1.2-2.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip a fedoraunity.org> 2.1.2-2
- Fix anaconda removing splittree.py
- Latest rebuild
- Minor bugfixes (#344 pkgorder traceback)
- Add SELinux Check


scim-1.4.7-33.fc10
------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <phuang at redhat.com> - 1.4.7-33
- Add ICON="/usr/share/scim/icons/trademark.png" in xinput-scim


sepostgresql-8.3.4-2.1077.fc10
------------------------------

slim-1.3.0-7.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Anders F Bjorklund <afb at users.sourceforge.net> 1.3.0-7
- add compat req (#465631)


smart-1.1-56.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net> - 1.1-56
- Update to 1.1.


xastir-1.9.4-4.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Lucian Langa <cooly at gnome.eu.org> - 1.9.4-4
- misc cleanups


xdoclet-1.2.3-9.4.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Matt Wringe <mwringe at redhat.com> - 0:1.2.3-9.4
- Update xdoclet-ant.not-required.patch to apply with fuzz=0.

* Fri Aug 29 18:00:00 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 0:1.2.3-9.3
- include /usr/share/doc/xdoclet-1.2.3 directory


Summary:
Added Packages: 3
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 26
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.i386 requires libbluetooth.so.2
	gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libdlm.so.2
	1:openoffice.org-langpack-ta_IN-3.0.0-9.2.fc10.i386 requires lohit-fonts-tamil
	publican-0.37-0.fc10.noarch requires lohit-fonts-tamil
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	syncevolution-0.7-3.fc10.i386 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.x86_64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0
	gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0()(64bit)
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.x86_64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.x86_64 requires libcman.so.2()(64bit)
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.x86_64 requires libdlm.so.2()(64bit)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	syncevolution-0.7-3.fc10.x86_64 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc requires libbluetooth.so.2
	gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0
	gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0()(64bit)
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc requires libdlm.so.2
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libbfd-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so
	stapitrace-1.0.0-12.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10.ppc requires libopcodes-2.18.50.0.9-1.fc10.so
	syncevolution-0.7-3.fc10.ppc requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	TurboGears-1.0.7-2.fc10.noarch requires python-decoratortools >= 0:1.4
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0()(64bit)
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	livecd-tools-018-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libcman.so.2()(64bit)
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libdlm.so.2()(64bit)
	mock-0.9.11-1.fc10.noarch requires python-decoratortools
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	python-peak-rules-0.5a1.dev-0.2569.fc10.noarch requires python-decoratortools >= 0:1.7
	python-peak-util-addons-0.6-1.fc10.noarch requires python-decoratortools >= 0:1.5
	python-peak-util-assembler-0.5-1.fc10.noarch requires python-decoratortools >= 0:1.2
	rt3-3.8.1-1.fc10.noarch requires perl(Locale::Maketext::Fuzzy)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	syncevolution-0.7-3.fc10.ppc64 requires libcppunit-1.12.so.0()(64bit)





From rc040203 at freenet.de  Mon Oct  6 12:15:10 2008
From: rc040203 at freenet.de (Ralf Corsepius)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:15:10 +0200
Subject: rawhide report: 20081006 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081006115146.968411F81C8@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
References: <20081006115146.968411F81C8@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223295310.3564.1037.camel@beck.corsepiu.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 11:51 +0000, Rawhide Report wrote:

> Broken deps for ppc64
> ----------------------------------------------------------

> 	rt3-3.8.1-1.fc10.noarch requires perl(Locale::Maketext::Fuzzy)

What is going on here?

perl-Locale-Maketext-Fuzzy is a noarch package and should be available
on all architectures.

It also is present in:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/ppc64/os/Packages/perl-Locale-Maketext-Fuzzy-0.10-2.fc9.noarch.rpm

Examining the contents also shows this package is providing what the
report is complaining above:

# rpm -q --provides -p perl-Locale-Maketext-Fuzzy-0.10-2.fc9.noarch.rpm 
warning: perl-Locale-Maketext-Fuzzy-0.10-2.fc9.noarch.rpm: Header V3 DSA
signature: NOKEY, key ID 0b86274e
perl(Locale::Maketext::Fuzzy) = 0.10
perl-Locale-Maketext-Fuzzy = 0.10-2.fc9

Ralf




From dwalsh at redhat.com  Mon Oct  6 13:01:44 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:01:44 -0400
Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0810040955k717be3d3taa5eabaf4371c740@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43404.10751.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<48E619ED.10400@redhat.com>
	<f6ca9fed0810040955k717be3d3taa5eabaf4371c740@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EA0C38.3030106@redhat.com>

drago01 wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> wrote:
>> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
>>>> To: fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com
>>>> Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:21 PM
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Doing a dmesg I see some denied avcs for npviewer
>>>>
>>>> I will attach the file,  I have not seen setroubleshoot
>>>> kick in to warn me about these avcs.  Has anyone else seen
>>>> these?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       --
>>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>>> To unsubscribe:
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>> Messages were not attached, file too big :(
>>>
>>> Here's preview :)
>>>
>>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1308): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir
>>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1309): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
>>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.903:1310): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
>>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.922:1311): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Looks like npviewer is becoming dbus aware.  I will allow it to connect
>> to the dbus server, but I am not sure what service it is trying to
>> communicate with.
> 
> the packagekit plugin tryes to connect to daemon?
> 
Seems like a bad idea, I take it nsplugin is running code that will
eventually be allowed to install packages as root.  :^(



From dwalsh at redhat.com  Mon Oct  6 13:02:35 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:02:35 -0400
Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0810040955k717be3d3taa5eabaf4371c740@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43404.10751.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<48E619ED.10400@redhat.com>
	<f6ca9fed0810040955k717be3d3taa5eabaf4371c740@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EA0C6B.4010404@redhat.com>

drago01 wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> wrote:
>> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: npviever on rawhide: denied avcs
>>>> To: fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com
>>>> Cc: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:21 PM
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Doing a dmesg I see some denied avcs for npviewer
>>>>
>>>> I will attach the file,  I have not seen setroubleshoot
>>>> kick in to warn me about these avcs.  Has anyone else seen
>>>> these?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       --
>>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>>> To unsubscribe:
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>> Messages were not attached, file too big :(
>>>
>>> Here's preview :)
>>>
>>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1308): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir
>>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.902:1309): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
>>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.903:1310): avc:  denied  { create } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_dgram_socket
>>> type=1400 audit(1222991578.922:1311): avc:  denied  { search } for  pid=17937 comm="npviewer.bin" name="dbus" dev=dm-0 ino=3276847 scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:nsplugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:system_dbusd_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=dir
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Looks like npviewer is becoming dbus aware.  I will allow it to connect
>> to the dbus server, but I am not sure what service it is trying to
>> communicate with.
> 
> the packagekit plugin tryes to connect to daemon?
> 
Is it possible to run this plugin outside of nsplugin?




From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 14:19:20 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:19:20 +0200
Subject: Sound is broken???
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810060719k4e25293ck426dcc3ae9d19356@mail.gmail.com>

after latest updates (pulseaudio and kernel and so on) sound seems
broken...Radio streams breaks very often....
Any other experience????

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 14:22:40 2008
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:22:40 -0400
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
Message-ID: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>

As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to launch a 
desktop during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  Dropping to a 
terminal and doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT on the beta 
DVD) and creating an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver solves the 
problem.  I see several bzs that may be related to the ati problem but 
don't have any specific information except possibly the attached screen 
shot.  The graphics adapter is an RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series] on an 
ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.

What next?

TIA
-- 
---------------------------------
Regards,

Old Fart
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From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct  6 14:33:45 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:33:45 +0000
Subject: Sound is broken???
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810060719k4e25293ck426dcc3ae9d19356@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810060719k4e25293ck426dcc3ae9d19356@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EA21C9.5060001@hi.is>

Antonio M wrote:
> after latest updates (pulseaudio and kernel and so on) sound seems
> broken...Radio streams breaks very often....
> Any other experience????
>
>   
Does paplay file work?
Does aplay file  work?

Which media players have you tested that with?
are those media players configure to use pulseaudio?
which type of media does it work with? which not?

Have you tried using older kernel?

Add your user to the pulse-r then open a terminal and run pulseaudio -k 
and pulseaudio -vvvv logged in user ( not root )
and see whats happening..

I've noticed the totem is unable to play wav file glitch free for 
example. ( paplay and aplay play the file fine )

JBG.
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  6 14:40:17 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 07:40:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sound is broken???
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810060719k4e25293ck426dcc3ae9d19356@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <76437.12151.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
> Subject: Sound is broken???
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 7:19 AM
> after latest updates (pulseaudio and kernel and so on) sound
> seems
> broken...Radio streams breaks very often....
> Any other experience????
> 
> -- 
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> 
> -- 


Sound is working for me :)

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 14:41:32 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:41:32 +0200
Subject: Sound is broken???
In-Reply-To: <48EA21C9.5060001@hi.is>
References: <4c37b6af0810060719k4e25293ck426dcc3ae9d19356@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EA21C9.5060001@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810060741j3839bddeq7334afff6fc6c96e@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/6 "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" <johannbg at hi.is>:
> Antonio M wrote:
>>
>> after latest updates (pulseaudio and kernel and so on) sound seems
>> broken...Radio streams breaks very often....
>> Any other experience????
>>
>>
>
> Does paplay file work?
> Does aplay file  work?
>
> Which media players have you tested that with?
> are those media players configure to use pulseaudio?
> which type of media does it work with? which not?

I was using Rhythmbox (with the 370 kernel, then I upgraded
pulseaudio, kernel to 392 and rebooted...)
No idea whether Rhythmbox is configured to use pulseaudio
>
> Have you tried using older kernel?

I reverted back to 370 kernel and sound is fine again. This laptop has
always played fine.
I noted also than on my home desktop if I upgrade kernel sound is
broken, so I guess that it is a problem of kernel

for sure sound is always a problem  :-)



-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From ajchida at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 14:49:43 2008
From: ajchida at gmail.com (Chida)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:19:43 +0530
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>
Message-ID: <71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>wrote:

> As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to launch a desktop
> during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  Dropping to a terminal and
> doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT on the beta DVD) and creating
> an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver solves the problem.  I see
> several bzs that may be related to the ati problem but don't have any
> specific information except possibly the attached screen shot.  The graphics
> adapter is an RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series] on an ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.
>


I have the same exact error.  I get a blank screen and then Fatal IO error
11.

I have a 780G chipset motherboard. What hardware are you on?
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From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 15:01:19 2008
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:01:19 -0400
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>
	<71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EA283F.405@cox.net>

Chida wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net 
> <mailto:clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>> wrote:
> 
>     As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to launch a
>     desktop during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  Dropping to
>     a terminal and doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT on the
>     beta DVD) and creating an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver
>     solves the problem.  I see several bzs that may be related to the
>     ati problem but don't have any specific information except possibly
>     the attached screen shot.  The graphics adapter is an RV630 [Radeon
>     HD 2600 Series] on an ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.
> 
> 
> 
> I have the same exact error.  I get a blank screen and then Fatal IO 
> error 11.
> 
> I have a 780G chipset motherboard. What hardware are you on?
> 

Hardware described above.

-- 
---------------------------------
Regards,

Old Fart



From clive at vacuumtube.org.uk  Mon Oct  6 15:01:14 2008
From: clive at vacuumtube.org.uk (Clive Messer)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:01:14 +0100
Subject: Sound is broken???
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810060741j3839bddeq7334afff6fc6c96e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810060719k4e25293ck426dcc3ae9d19356@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EA21C9.5060001@hi.is>
	<4c37b6af0810060741j3839bddeq7334afff6fc6c96e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223305274.24748.2.camel@pc343.objectsoft-systems.ltd.uk>



On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 16:41 +0200, Antonio M wrote:

> I noted also than on my home desktop if I upgrade kernel sound is
> broken, so I guess that it is a problem of kernel

Could be hda ALSA bug in 2.6.26 kernels. Causes pulseaudio to shutdown.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462200

Regards

Clive
- 
Clive Messer <clive at vacuumtube.org.uk>






From ranger at opennms.org  Mon Oct  6 15:11:46 2008
From: ranger at opennms.org (Benjamin Reed)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:11:46 -0400
Subject: Mirror links all broken?
Message-ID: <48EA2AB2.5090701@opennms.org>

I'm wanting to test the openjdk updates that have happened since fc9, so
I was going to try a net install of fc10 beta, but it appears all the
mirror links are broken at:

  http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/

I found a mirror, but thought I'd point out all the links don't work.  =)

-- 
Benjamin Reed
The OpenNMS Group
http://www.opennms.org/


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From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct  6 15:09:08 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:09:08 +0000
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <48EA283F.405@cox.net>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>	<71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EA283F.405@cox.net>
Message-ID: <48EA2A14.609@hi.is>

Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> Chida wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel 
>> <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net <mailto:clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to launch a
>>     desktop during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  Dropping to
>>     a terminal and doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT on the
>>     beta DVD) and creating an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver
>>     solves the problem.  I see several bzs that may be related to the
>>     ati problem but don't have any specific information except possibly
>>     the attached screen shot.  The graphics adapter is an RV630 [Radeon
>>     HD 2600 Series] on an ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the same exact error.  I get a blank screen and then Fatal IO 
>> error 11.
>>
>> I have a 780G chipset motherboard. What hardware are you on?
>>
>
> Hardware described above.
>
Testers it's better to provide the url from smolt
rather than using verbal descriptions.. :)
( su -c 'smoltSendProfile -a' )

JBG...
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From jonstanley at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 15:26:07 2008
From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:26:07 -0400
Subject: Mirror links all broken?
In-Reply-To: <48EA2AB2.5090701@opennms.org>
References: <48EA2AB2.5090701@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <da159fda0810060826q7abd0fb4m728756aacd5a0fc@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Benjamin Reed <ranger at opennms.org> wrote:

> I found a mirror, but thought I'd point out all the links don't work.  =)

Broken in what way? They all seem to work for me (the few I tried).
Note that you have to click on the individual protocol links to the
right in order to get content.



From ranger at opennms.org  Mon Oct  6 15:28:31 2008
From: ranger at opennms.org (Benjamin Reed)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:28:31 -0400
Subject: Mirror links all broken?
In-Reply-To: <da159fda0810060826q7abd0fb4m728756aacd5a0fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48EA2AB2.5090701@opennms.org>
	<da159fda0810060826q7abd0fb4m728756aacd5a0fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EA2E9F.9080807@opennms.org>

Jon Stanley wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Benjamin Reed <ranger at opennms.org> wrote:
> 
>> I found a mirror, but thought I'd point out all the links don't work.  =)
> 
> Broken in what way? They all seem to work for me (the few I tried).
> Note that you have to click on the individual protocol links to the
> right in order to get content.

Sorry, should have been more specific.  The "mirror list filter" at the
top appears to be completely broken.  For example, if I click on Fedora
-> 9, it sends me to the URL:

  http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/publiclist/Fedora/9/

Which says:

  Not Found

  The requested URL /mirrorlists/mirrormanager/publiclist/Fedora/9/ was
  not found on this server.

-- 
Benjamin Reed
The OpenNMS Group
http://www.opennms.org/


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From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 16:44:26 2008
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:44:26 -0400
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <48EA2A14.609@hi.is>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>	<71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>	<48EA283F.405@cox.net>
	<48EA2A14.609@hi.is>
Message-ID: <48EA406A.1090703@cox.net>

J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>> Chida wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel 
>>> <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net <mailto:clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to launch a
>>>     desktop during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  Dropping to
>>>     a terminal and doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT on the
>>>     beta DVD) and creating an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver
>>>     solves the problem.  I see several bzs that may be related to the
>>>     ati problem but don't have any specific information except possibly
>>>     the attached screen shot.  The graphics adapter is an RV630 [Radeon
>>>     HD 2600 Series] on an ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the same exact error.  I get a blank screen and then Fatal IO 
>>> error 11.
>>>
>>> I have a 780G chipset motherboard. What hardware are you on?
>>>
>>
>> Hardware described above.
>>
> Testers it's better to provide the url from smolt
> rather than using verbal descriptions.. :)
> ( su -c 'smoltSendProfile -a' )
> 
> JBG...
> 

Nice to know.  Thanks.

	http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_c56eb702-9626-489a-ba78-14d9fa44cddc


-- 
---------------------------------
Regards,

Old Fart



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct  6 16:09:01 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:09:01 -0400
Subject: FC10, Bluetooth mouse setup
Message-ID: <48EA381D.3060805@sbcglobal.net>

FC10.
Using Bluetooth-Wizard , the wizard detects the bluetooth mouse, but in 
the wizards Device Setup section it says, that
"Pairing with (Null) failed"
Can't get bluetooth working.

hciconfig  : detects bluetooth dongle
hcitool scan  : detects bluetooth Mouse



From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon Oct  6 17:43:36 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:43:36 -0400
Subject: FC10, Bluetooth mouse setup
In-Reply-To: <48EA381D.3060805@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48EA381D.3060805@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1223315016.3161.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 12:09 -0400, Jim wrote:
> FC10.
> Using Bluetooth-Wizard , the wizard detects the bluetooth mouse, but in 
> the wizards Device Setup section it says, that
> "Pairing with (Null) failed"

Works for me. Are you sure that:
- Your mouse is ready to establish a new pairing?
- You have the right PIN for your mouse? 

What kind of bluetooth mouse is it? Are there any messages from
bluetoothd in /var/log/messages?

-w



From romal at gmx.de  Mon Oct  6 19:15:09 2008
From: romal at gmx.de (Robert M. Albrecht)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:15:09 +0200
Subject: Anaconda-Problem in F10Alpha
Message-ID: <48EA63BD.1010604@gmx.de>

Hi,

I tried to install F10Alpha on a PC connected via DVI to a HD tv 
(1360x768). Textmode installations works fine, but Anacondas fonts are 
unreadable small (2 pixels in height). This applies to all text: menus, 
titles, buttons, ... The layout itself is ok.

The systems uses a Nvidia 6600 graphics card. Known bug ? Should I file a 
new bug ? Which logs do I need to attach ?

cu romal



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 19:18:12 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher Desjardins)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:18:12 -0500
Subject: Anaconda-Problem in F10Alpha
In-Reply-To: <48EA63BD.1010604@gmx.de>
References: <48EA63BD.1010604@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <b968b9650810061218h778c2addl6c49d49e6ef0a63@mail.gmail.com>

You should probably try the beta CD first.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Robert M. Albrecht <romal at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I tried to install F10Alpha on a PC connected via DVI to a HD tv
> (1360x768). Textmode installations works fine, but Anacondas fonts are
> unreadable small (2 pixels in height). This applies to all text: menus,
> titles, buttons, ... The layout itself is ok.
>
> The systems uses a Nvidia 6600 graphics card. Known bug ? Should I file a
> new bug ? Which logs do I need to attach ?
>
> cu romal
>
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From romal at gmx.de  Mon Oct  6 19:23:25 2008
From: romal at gmx.de (Robert M. Albrecht)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:23:25 +0200
Subject: Anaconda-Problem in F10Beta
In-Reply-To: <b968b9650810061218h778c2addl6c49d49e6ef0a63@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48EA63BD.1010604@gmx.de>
	<b968b9650810061218h778c2addl6c49d49e6ef0a63@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EA65AD.70008@gmx.de>

Hi,

sorry, my mistake. It's the Beta, not the alpha.

cu romal


On 06.10.2008 21:18 Uhr, Christopher Desjardins wrote:
> You should probably try the beta CD first.
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Robert M. Albrecht <romal at gmx.de
> <mailto:romal at gmx.de>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I tried to install F10Alpha on a PC connected via DVI to a HD tv
>     (1360x768). Textmode installations works fine, but Anacondas fonts
>     are unreadable small (2 pixels in height). This applies to all text:
>     menus, titles, buttons, ... The layout itself is ok.
>
>     The systems uses a Nvidia 6600 graphics card. Known bug ? Should I
>     file a new bug ? Which logs do I need to attach ?
>
>     cu romal
>
>     --
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>     fedora-test-list at redhat.com <mailto:fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>     To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 19:33:24 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:33:24 -0500
Subject: Anaconda-Problem in F10Beta
In-Reply-To: <48EA65AD.70008@gmx.de>
References: <48EA63BD.1010604@gmx.de>	<b968b9650810061218h778c2addl6c49d49e6ef0a63@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EA65AD.70008@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <48EA6804.4000208@gmail.com>

So, I'd check bug reports and if theren't any reports yet you should 
file the bug with a screenshot if possible.

Robert M. Albrecht wrote:
> Hi,
>
> sorry, my mistake. It's the Beta, not the alpha.
>
> cu romal
>
>
> On 06.10.2008 21:18 Uhr, Christopher Desjardins wrote:
>> You should probably try the beta CD first.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Robert M. Albrecht <romal at gmx.de
>> <mailto:romal at gmx.de>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     I tried to install F10Alpha on a PC connected via DVI to a HD tv
>>     (1360x768). Textmode installations works fine, but Anacondas fonts
>>     are unreadable small (2 pixels in height). This applies to all text:
>>     menus, titles, buttons, ... The layout itself is ok.
>>
>>     The systems uses a Nvidia 6600 graphics card. Known bug ? Should I
>>     file a new bug ? Which logs do I need to attach ?
>>
>>     cu romal
>>
>>     --
>>     fedora-test-list mailing list
>>     fedora-test-list at redhat.com <mailto:fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>>     To unsubscribe: 
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
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From poelstra at redhat.com  Mon Oct  6 19:59:35 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:59:35 -0700
Subject: Bug Triage Recap 2008-09-30 + Meeting Reminder for tomorrow @ 1400
 UTC
Message-ID: <48EA6E27.6050408@redhat.com>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday @ 14:00 UTC/10 AM EDT

See you there!

Below is a new attempt on my part to better report the events our 
meetings.  I'll be able to carry this for a bit, but then would like 
some help doing the weekly summaries and posting to the list.

John

---------------------------------------

Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Sep-30

Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.

= Bug Triage Meeting :: 2008-09-30 =

== Attendees ==
* poelcat
* John5342
* ke4qqq
* jlaska
* jds2001
* mcepl

== NEW->ASSIGNED ==
* Some people believe a different way should be implemented to indicate 
that a bug is ''triaged''
** How many people is unclear
** Issue a survey?
* 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-September/msg00493.html
* Alternatives:
*# new bugzilla state
*# new flag
*# use existing ''Triaged'' keyword
* poelcat to talk to Red Hat bugzilla people to find out what feasible 
options are

== Status of Greasemonkey Scripts ==
* Comphappy was making updates a few weeks ago
* No one knows the status

== Generating New Involvement ==
* Do we state the benefits of bug triage anywhere?
* Creating consistent meeting summaries and sending back to the list
* Publish "success stories"
* Need to resolve controvery about NEW->ASSIGNED as that may discourage 
people from helping out
* Unclear if weekly meeting reminders help

== FEver Bugs ==
* quite a few being auto-filed
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/FEver
* What about having following attributes on these bugs auto-set?
** ''FutureFeature'' keyword
** ASSIGNED (triaged)

== IRC Transcript ==




From tom.horsley at att.net  Mon Oct  6 20:02:22 2008
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:02:22 -0400
Subject: Anaconda-Problem in F10Alpha
In-Reply-To: <48EA63BD.1010604@gmx.de>
References: <48EA63BD.1010604@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <20081006160222.0bd82e44@zooty>

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:15:09 +0200
"Robert M. Albrecht" <romal at gmx.de> wrote:

> I tried to install F10Alpha on a PC connected via DVI to a HD tv 
> (1360x768).

Sounds like the same problem I had with the Beta using my 42"
HD TV (I had different problems with the alpha where the bug
originated):

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458738

You might want to chime in on that report.



From gdk at redhat.com  Mon Oct  6 20:09:13 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:09:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Quick DevKey Reminder (fwd)
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810061606570.28177@localhost.localdomain>


Hello all.  As you begin to receive your XOs, one of the key things you'll 
need to do will be to get Developer Keys for the XO.  The XO is set up so 
that it won't boot a new image unless there's a developer key installed.

In order to do that, Ed asks folks to upgrade the onboard OS on the 
XO, which is pretty simple.  Instructions:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpc-upgrade

--g

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 15:01:49 -0400
From: Ed McNierney <ed at laptop.org>
To: Greg DeKoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com>
Subject: Quick DevKey Reminder

Greg -

While I'm trying to light a fire under folks here to accelerate devkey 
delivery, please encourage EVERYONE to (a) upgrade to the (signed) 8.2-767 
release and (b) request a devkey ASAP.  That way they're in the works even if 
things take a while here.

The upgrade request is simply to make the devkey process easier, so they can 
find the request page easily and copy and paste the result.  It's not 
otherwise important for Fedora testing, but a good thing anyway.

 	- Ed



From gdk at redhat.com  Mon Oct  6 20:16:27 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:16:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Quick DevKey Reminder (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810061606570.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810061606570.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810061615130.28177@localhost.localdomain>


Note: upgrading the XO is necessary but not sufficient to getting your 
developer key.  Ed is working on the process of getting developer keys 
into developer hands.  More news as I have it.

--g

On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:

> Hello all.  As you begin to receive your XOs, one of the key things you'll 
> need to do will be to get Developer Keys for the XO.  The XO is set up so 
> that it won't boot a new image unless there's a developer key installed.
>
> In order to do that, Ed asks folks to upgrade the onboard OS on the XO, 
> which is pretty simple.  Instructions:
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpc-upgrade
>
> --g
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 15:01:49 -0400
> From: Ed McNierney <ed at laptop.org>
> To: Greg DeKoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com>
> Subject: Quick DevKey Reminder
>
> Greg -
>
> While I'm trying to light a fire under folks here to accelerate devkey 
> delivery, please encourage EVERYONE to (a) upgrade to the (signed) 8.2-767 
> release and (b) request a devkey ASAP.  That way they're in the works even 
> if things take a while here.
>
> The upgrade request is simply to make the devkey process easier, so they can 
> find the request page easily and copy and paste the result.  It's not 
> otherwise important for Fedora testing, but a good thing anyway.
>
> 	- Ed
>



From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct  6 20:26:34 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:26:34 -0400
Subject: Quick DevKey Reminder (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810061606570.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810061606570.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1223324794.3324.40.camel@flatline>

On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 16:09 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> The XO is set up so 
> that it won't boot a new image unless there's a developer key
> installed.

Thanks Greg, I've added those instructions to the draft Test Plan (see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Getting_a_Developer_Key).

Thanks,
James
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From jamundso at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 20:49:08 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 15:49:08 -0500
Subject: Bug Triage Recap 2008-09-30 + Meeting Reminder for tomorrow @
	1400 UTC
In-Reply-To: <48EA6E27.6050408@redhat.com>
References: <48EA6E27.6050408@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810061349y77c639abtb9305d654d024e78@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:59 PM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com> wrote:
[snip]
> == NEW->ASSIGNED ==
> * Some people believe a different way should be implemented to indicate that
> a bug is ''triaged''
> ** How many people is unclear
> ** Issue a survey?
> *
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-September/msg00493.html
> * Alternatives:
> *# new bugzilla state
> *# new flag
> *# use existing ''Triaged'' keyword

Nobody had Questions/Comments/Criticisms on my suggestion to use VERIFIED.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-September/msg00523.html

> * poelcat to talk to Red Hat bugzilla people to find out what feasible
> options are

Ask them about VERIFIED too! :-)

Kind regards,
jerry
(your local "verified" pusher...)

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 21:20:32 2008
From: gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com (Gianluca Cecchi)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:20:32 +0200
Subject: traceback with f10 beta x86_64 and e1000e
Message-ID: <561c252c0810061420u377f575em672e01accf0cc806@mail.gmail.com>

I get a traceback using the beta for x86_64.
The mainboard is an intel dp35dp.
Under f9 x86 (installed onto a partition of the same pc) the driver is e1000e
lspci -v gives:
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DC-2 Gigabit
Network Connection (rev 02)

Is it supposed I'm able to install anyway but without network, due to
the blacklisted module or not?
Does it make sense to send traceback (that is related to Networkmanager
as i can see...) or not, due to the resolution of the problem after beta?

My attempt setup is this:
install by dvd tryng to install onto an existing partition (another ext3, not
the f9 one) without formatting.
I take all the defaults (apart from partition scheme) without
customization of packages, but when I select "Next"
in the packages page I get the traceback.
As I have the downloaded beta I would prefer to install with that and
then update at current...
But if there is any simple way to start from those already downloaded packeges
and rebuild an updated dvd after the e1000e fix I can do this and test.
Thanks anyway,
Gianluca



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 21:28:37 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:28:37 +0200
Subject: Sound is broken???
In-Reply-To: <1223305274.24748.2.camel@pc343.objectsoft-systems.ltd.uk>
References: <4c37b6af0810060719k4e25293ck426dcc3ae9d19356@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EA21C9.5060001@hi.is>
	<4c37b6af0810060741j3839bddeq7334afff6fc6c96e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223305274.24748.2.camel@pc343.objectsoft-systems.ltd.uk>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810061428s4e8ba4fbv5ce9a23a04262c4f@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/6 Clive Messer <clive at vacuumtube.org.uk>:
>
>
> On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 16:41 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
>
>> I noted also than on my home desktop if I upgrade kernel sound is
>> broken, so I guess that it is a problem of kernel
>
> Could be hda ALSA bug in 2.6.26 kernels. Causes pulseaudio to shutdown.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462200
>
> Regards
>
> Clive
> -
> Clive Messer <clive at vacuumtube.org.uk>
>
>
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
no, I am using F10, and pulseaudio doesn't die.
But after latest updates including pulseaudio :-) I think that
everything is running fine: I am now running on an Intel system that
was suffering from glitches, and seeing if everything is o.k....i am
fingercrossing ;-)


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From poelstra at redhat.com  Mon Oct  6 21:37:53 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:37:53 -0700
Subject: Bug Triage Recap 2008-09-30 + Meeting Reminder for tomorrow @
 1400 UTC
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810061349y77c639abtb9305d654d024e78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48EA6E27.6050408@redhat.com>
	<6d06ce20810061349y77c639abtb9305d654d024e78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EA8531.6000600@redhat.com>

Jerry Amundson said the following on 10/06/2008 01:49 PM Pacific Time:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:59 PM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com> wrote:
> [snip]
>> == NEW->ASSIGNED ==
>> * Some people believe a different way should be implemented to indicate that
>> a bug is ''triaged''
>> ** How many people is unclear
>> ** Issue a survey?
>> *
>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-September/msg00493.html
>> * Alternatives:
>> *# new bugzilla state
>> *# new flag
>> *# use existing ''Triaged'' keyword
> 
> Nobody had Questions/Comments/Criticisms on my suggestion to use VERIFIED.
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-September/msg00523.html
> 

Unfortunately VERIFIED has always been understood in the context of 
having "verified" that a bug is fixed so I don't think it is an option. 
   That is also the understood meaning for RHEL maintainers and would be 
confusing if they work on both Fedora and RHEL.

I'm leaning more towards the idea that the "Triaged" keyword makes the 
most sense because it doesn't disrupt the STATE change flow and simply 
adds meta data to bug.  This would also allow us to triage other 
components that actually remain in state of NEW until work begins.

So, who out there, feels that an additional keyword like "Triaged" would 
mess up their bugs? :)

NOTE: we are continuing to follow the triage work flow here: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow and will 
continue to do so.

John



From poelstra at redhat.com  Mon Oct  6 21:41:00 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:41:00 -0700
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <48EA2A14.609@hi.is>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>	<71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>	<48EA283F.405@cox.net>
	<48EA2A14.609@hi.is>
Message-ID: <48EA85EC.9040100@redhat.com>

J?hann B. Gu?mundsson said the following on 10/06/2008 08:09 AM Pacific 
Time:
> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>> Chida wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel 
>>> <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net <mailto:clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to launch a
>>>     desktop during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  Dropping to
>>>     a terminal and doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT on the
>>>     beta DVD) and creating an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver
>>>     solves the problem.  I see several bzs that may be related to the
>>>     ati problem but don't have any specific information except possibly
>>>     the attached screen shot.  The graphics adapter is an RV630 [Radeon
>>>     HD 2600 Series] on an ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the same exact error.  I get a blank screen and then Fatal IO 
>>> error 11.
>>>
>>> I have a 780G chipset motherboard. What hardware are you on?
>>>
>>
>> Hardware described above.
>>
> Testers it's better to provide the url from smolt
> rather than using verbal descriptions.. :)
> ( su -c 'smoltSendProfile -a' )
> 
> JBG...
> 

Filing it in bugzilla also helps, particularly when people pile with "me 
too" :)

John



From jamundso at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 21:58:43 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:58:43 -0500
Subject: Bug Triage Recap 2008-09-30 + Meeting Reminder for tomorrow @
	1400 UTC
In-Reply-To: <48EA8531.6000600@redhat.com>
References: <48EA6E27.6050408@redhat.com>
	<6d06ce20810061349y77c639abtb9305d654d024e78@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EA8531.6000600@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810061458g4beb0a1byc223570b2b24d2a7@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:37 PM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com> wrote:
> Jerry Amundson said the following on 10/06/2008 01:49 PM Pacific Time:
>> Nobody had Questions/Comments/Criticisms on my suggestion to use VERIFIED.
>>
>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-September/msg00523.html
>>
>
> Unfortunately VERIFIED has always been understood in the context of having
> "verified" that a bug is fixed so I don't think it is an option.  That is
> also the understood meaning for RHEL maintainers and would be confusing if
> they work on both Fedora and RHEL.

Good to know. Thanks.

> I'm leaning more towards the idea that the "Triaged" keyword makes the most
> sense because it doesn't disrupt the STATE change flow and simply adds meta
> data to bug.  This would also allow us to triage other components that
> actually remain in state of NEW until work begins.

+1 for TRIAGED.

> So, who out there, feels that an additional keyword like "Triaged" would
> mess up their bugs? :)
>
> NOTE: we are continuing to follow the triage work flow here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow and will
> continue to do so.

Can VERIFIED fit on BSWF image and/or text, or is not needed in the
BugZapper context?
If the latter, I think the item "The VERIFIED bug state is not used by
Fedora." should be removed.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct  6 22:42:06 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:42:06 -0400
Subject: FC10, Bluetooth mouse setup
In-Reply-To: <1223315016.3161.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48EA381D.3060805@sbcglobal.net>
	<1223315016.3161.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48EA943E.4050904@sbcglobal.net>

Will Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 12:09 -0400, Jim wrote:
>   
>> FC10.
>> Using Bluetooth-Wizard , the wizard detects the bluetooth mouse, but in 
>> the wizards Device Setup section it says, that
>> "Pairing with (Null) failed"
>>     
>
> Works for me. Are you sure that:
> - Your mouse is ready to establish a new pairing?
>   
What do you mean by is it ready ?  
It is detected by  hcitool scan
> - You have the right PIN for your mouse?
Do you mean MAC# , rather than PIN #
Correct Mac # is detected in  Bluetooth-Wisard
>  
>
> What kind of bluetooth mouse is it? Are there any messages from
> bluetoothd in /var/log/messages?
>
> -w
>
>   
/var/log/messages

bluetoothhd [2012]: unable to start periodic inquiry: Connection timed 
out(110)


Thanks for your help.



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct  6 23:00:42 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:00:42 -0400
Subject: FC10, Bluetooth mouse setup
In-Reply-To: <48EA943E.4050904@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48EA381D.3060805@sbcglobal.net>	<1223315016.3161.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EA943E.4050904@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <48EA989A.3090805@sbcglobal.net>

Jim wrote:
> Will Woods wrote:
>> On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 12:09 -0400, Jim wrote:
>>  
>>> FC10.
>>> Using Bluetooth-Wizard , the wizard detects the bluetooth mouse, but 
>>> in the wizards Device Setup section it says, that
>>> "Pairing with (Null) failed"
>>>     
>>
>> Works for me. Are you sure that:
>> - Your mouse is ready to establish a new pairing?
>>   
> What do you mean by is it ready ?  It is detected by  hcitool scan
>> - You have the right PIN for your mouse?
> Do you mean MAC# , rather than PIN #
> Correct Mac # is detected in  Bluetooth-Wisard
>>  
>>
>> What kind of bluetooth mouse is it? Are there any messages from
>> bluetoothd in /var/log/messages?
>>
>> -w
>>
>>   
> /var/log/messages
>
> bluetoothhd [2012]: unable to start periodic inquiry: Connection timed 
> out(110)
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
I forgot to say, it is a Logitech



From idht4n at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 01:43:06 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:43:06 -0700
Subject: f10beta yum error
Message-ID: <b79371120810061843qf8a2ae4ma30d2a66dcf8f30@mail.gmail.com>

I just did an install to hard disk from f10beta USB and tried to yum update
but got this error:

yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Could not retrieve mirrorlist
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=i386 error was
[Errno 4] IOError: <urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')>
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
rawhide. Please verify its path and try again

Any ideas?  I'm wondering if I have a bad USB live disk.  I couldn't do a
normal
install due to several other bugs.

Thanks,

                 David
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  7 02:20:01 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:20:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: f10beta yum error
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810061843qf8a2ae4ma30d2a66dcf8f30@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <836528.29608.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Mon, 10/6/08, David L <idht4n at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: David L <idht4n at gmail.com>
> Subject: f10beta yum error
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:43 PM
> I just did an install to hard disk from f10beta USB and
> tried to yum update
> but got this error:
> 
> yum update
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Could not retrieve mirrorlist
> http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=i386
> error was
> [Errno 4] IOError: <urlopen error (-2, 'Name or
> service not known')>
> Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for
> repository:
> rawhide. Please verify its path and try again
> 
> Any ideas?  I'm wondering if I have a bad USB live
> disk.  I couldn't do a
> normal
> install due to several other bugs.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>                  David
> -- 


Try again, this time please do a 
# yum clean all
# yum clean metadata

then run 
# yum update

I encounter this once in a while, but after doing the above at least one time, the updates come in.

Regards,

Antonio


      



From jamundso at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 02:28:49 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:28:49 -0500
Subject: f10beta yum error
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810061843qf8a2ae4ma30d2a66dcf8f30@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810061843qf8a2ae4ma30d2a66dcf8f30@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810061928t28b10c8cl4c6da7911340c26e@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/6/08, David L <idht4n at gmail.com> wrote:
> I just did an install to hard disk from f10beta USB and tried to yum update
> but got this error:
>
> yum update
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Could not retrieve mirrorlist
> http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=i386 error was
> [Errno 4] IOError: <urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')>

Works OK currently. So either,
1. Try again, and it works.
2. It doesn't, because the install has a network problem, right?

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From idht4n at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 02:52:27 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:52:27 -0700
Subject: f10beta yum error
In-Reply-To: <836528.29608.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <b79371120810061843qf8a2ae4ma30d2a66dcf8f30@mail.gmail.com>
	<836528.29608.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b79371120810061952g6b0292a4g546de462d861c693@mail.gmail.com>

> > yum update
> > Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> > Could not retrieve mirrorlist
> > http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=i386
> > error was
> > [Errno 4] IOError: <urlopen error (-2, 'Name or
> > service not known')>
> > Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for
> > repository:
> > rawhide. Please verify its path and try again
>
>
> Try again, this time please do a
> # yum clean all
> # yum clean metadata
>
> then run
> # yum update
>
> I encounter this once in a while, but after doing the above at least one
> time, the updates come in.


It worked after I tried a few more times.  I didn't even do the "yum clean".
The first two times it didn't work.  The third time it did.

Thanks,
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 10:46:34 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:46:34 +0200
Subject: Screen is dimmed....
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810070346s4a4cb3fdvc9f662dd049c2d07@mail.gmail.com>

when I start any video player on F10 my screen is dimmed on my laptop,
as energy manager would understand that is running on battery even if
I am connected to the wall socket!!!
This started after latest kernel updates: to recover from it I must
log out and then log in.
Any idea?? shall I file a bug (I guess against kernel..)???

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 10:55:46 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:55:46 +0200
Subject: Screen is dimmed....
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810070346s4a4cb3fdvc9f662dd049c2d07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070346s4a4cb3fdvc9f662dd049c2d07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810070355k57c2689eud119dab30aa4202f@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/7 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> when I start any video player on F10 my screen is dimmed on my laptop,
> as energy manager would understand that is running on battery even if
> I am connected to the wall socket!!!
> This started after latest kernel updates: to recover from it I must
> log out and then log in.
> Any idea?? shall I file a bug (I guess against kernel..)???
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

maybe that is not kernel connected as I tested 323 and I get same
dimming as in kernel-2.6.27-0.392.rc8.git7.fc10.
This happens for example if in Fedora I go to www.pierodasaronno.com
and I try to see any video.
And I do not recover back when I leave that page......

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct  7 12:21:39 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue,  7 Oct 2008 12:21:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081007 changes
Message-ID: <20081007122139.32DA01F81CF@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue Oct  7 06:01:27 UTC 2008

New package OmegaT
        Computer Aid Translation tool
New package htmlparser
        HTML Parser, a Java library used to parse HTML
New package hunspell-hsb
        Upper Sorbian hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-nds
        Lowlands Saxon hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-rw
        Kinyarwanda hunspell dictionaries
New package mediawiki-Cite
        An extension to provide Citation tools for Mediawiki
New package opticalraytracer
        Utility that analyzes systems of lenses
New package perl-Mouse
        Moose minus the antlers
New package spu-binutils
        A GNU collection of binary utilities
Updated Packages:

FlightGear-1.0.0-4.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Fabrice Bellet <fabrice at bellet.info> 1.0.0-4
- fixed category of the menu entry (rh#465698)


PackageKit-0.3.6-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.6-2
- Upload new sources. Ooops.

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.6-1
- New upstream version
- Renice the spawned process so that we don't hog the system when doing updates


anaconda-11.4.1.44-1
--------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.44-1
- Do not rely on loaderData->noDns to tell if we have DNS configured.
  (dcantrell)
- Skip askmethod dialog if user passes repo= and stage2= (dcantrell)
- Reset resolver in get_connection() (dcantrell)
- Fix problems dealing with PXE boot and the ksdevice= parameter. (dcantrell)
- Disable more IPv6 code in loader for now. (dcantrell)
- Write BOOTPROTO=static for manual IPv4 config. (dcantrell)
- Disable IPv6 widgets for F-10. (dcantrell)
- Add iwlagn driver firmware (#465508). (clumens)
- Move starting HAL to after we've probed for hardware. (clumens)
- Don't try to load a couple modules that no longer exist. (clumens)
- The Chinese font package has changed names (#465290). (clumens)
- Fix a traceback when there's no ksdevice given (#465638). (clumens)
- Fix traceback in post install configuration (hans)


anyremote-4.10-1.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Mikhail Fedotov <anyremote at mail.ru> - 4.10-1
- Fixed issue with non-correct handling of files and directories names with 
   braces and brackets in some configuration files. A lot of changes in 
   documentation. Several small changes in code.


arora-0.4-2.fc10
----------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> - 0.4-2
- Fedora Project & Red Hat bookmarks
- Fedora Project homepage
- GIT version patch


asymptote-1.44-2.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.44-2
- add missing BuildRequires

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.44-1
- update to 1.44


bluez-4.12-1.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.12-1
- Update to 4.12


bodhi-0.5.5-1.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5.5-1
- Latest upstream release.

* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5.4-2
- Make our masher extension point less obtrusive.

* Tue Sep 16 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5.4-1
- Latest upstream release, containing various bugfixes
- Make our python-fedora requirement explicit (#461518)


boost-1.34.1-17.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Petr Machata <pmachata at redhat.com> - 1.34.1-17
- Fix gcc43 patch to apply cleanly under --fuzz=0
- Resolves: #465003


cjkunifonts-0.2.20080216.1-6.fc10
---------------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 0.2.20080216.1-6.fc10
- Resolves: rhbz#465900 (Symlinks of fontconfig .conf files are inaccurated.)
- Macro'ed all 'ln -s'.


clustermon-0.15.0-5.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Ryan McCabe <rmccabe at redhat.com> 0.15.0-5
- Update the cman configuration version when propagating a new cluster.conf
  via "ccs_sync"


clutter-0.8.2-1.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Allisson Azevedo <allisson at gmail.com> 0.8.2-1
- Update to 0.8.2
- Removed clutter-0.8.0-clutter-fixed.patch


conman-0.2.2-2.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 0.2.2-2
- The console option in conman.conf is case-insensitive, so relax
  defined consoles check in initscript (Mark McLoughlin, #465777)


coreutils-6.12-12.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> - 6.12-11
- added requires for libattr (#465569)

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> - 6.12-12
- fix up potential test failures when building in certain
  slightly quirky environments (part of bz#442352)


dbus-1.2.4-1.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Colin Walters <walters at redhat.com> - 1.2.4-1
- New upstream 1.2.4


digikam-0.10.0-0.5.beta4.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 0.10.0-0.5.beta4
- update to 0.10.0 beta 4
- build against latest kdegraphics


doxygen-1.5.7.1-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 1.5.7.1-1
- 1.5.7.1


echo-icon-theme-0.3.89.0-0.11.20081003gitcc6da5b.fc10
-----------------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Martin Sourada <martin.sourada at gmail.com>
- 0.3.89.0-0.11.20081003gitcc6da5b
- New git snapshot


ecl-0.9l-3.fc10
---------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Gerard Milmeister <gemi at bluewin.ch> - 0.9l-2
- disable ppc64 (fails to build)

* Wed Aug  6 18:00:00 2008 Gerard Milmeister <gemi at bluewin.ch> - 0.9l-1
- new release 0.9l


ecryptfs-utils-58-0.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Mike Halcrow <mhalcrow at us.ibm.com> 58-0
- TSPI key module update to avoid flooding TrouSerS library with requests
- OpenSSL key module parameter fixes
- Updates to mount-on-login utilities


expendable-0.0.5-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 0.0.5-1
- 0.0.5.


ext3grep-0.9.0-2.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 0.9.0-2
- Added ExcludeArch for sparcv9 and sparc64


gimp-2.6.0-1.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 2:2.6.0-1
- version 2.6.0
- remove obsolete htmlview patch
- remove obsolete distro version dependent defaults
- don't use custom CFLAGS


gnokii-0.6.27-2.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.6.27-2
- Fix htmlview patch

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.6.27-1
- Update to 0.6.27


gnome-packagekit-0.3.6-2.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.6-2
- Upload new sources. Ooops.

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.6-1
- New upstream version
- Show vendor specific messages when we fail to find packages
- Turn off hardware HAL integration


gnuradio-3.1.2-2.fc10
---------------------

guitone-0.9_1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Moschny <thomas.moschny at gmx.de> - 0.9_1-1
- Upstream updated the tarfile.
- Added README.driver to %doc.


hal-0.5.12-1.20081001git.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-1.20081001git
- Add a patch from the mailing list to try and fix rh#442457


hunspell-id-0.20040812-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct  6 18:00:00 2006 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.20040812-1
- latest version


hunspell-mg-0.20050109-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.20050109-1
- out-by-one


hyphen-da-0.20070903-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.20070903-1
- latest version


ibus-0.1.1.20081006-3.fc10
--------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.1.1.20081006-3
- remove the empty %doc file entries

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.1.1.20081006-2
- add xinputrc alternative when installing or uninstalling

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081006-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081006.


isomaster-1.3.3-2.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Marcin Zajaczkowski <mszpak ATT wp DOTT pl> - 1.3.3-2
- fixed problem with building when --fuzzy=0 in patch command (#465088)


kdebase-4.1.2-4.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4.1.2-3
- bz#465451, backport konsole session management, thanks to Stefan Becker

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-4
- updated konsole session management patch from Stefan Becker


kdegraphics-4.1.2-3.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-3
- respun tarball
- backport latest libkexiv2 and libkdcraw from trunk


kernel-2.6.27-0.398.rc9.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com>
- Don't BUG_ON when iwl4695 gets packets in the wrong queue,
  just WARN. Slight leak w/kerneloops report is better than
  simply panicking, Intel working on root-cause (#457154).

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com>
- Add driver for Hauppauge HD PVR

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- Add cpufreq.git bits queued for 2.6.28.

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27-rc9

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27-rc8-git8

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- drm-modesetting-radeon.patch - fix drm mode header + Xv alignment issue


kipi-plugins-0.2.0-0.3.beta2.fc10
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.2.0-0.3.beta2
- update to 0.2.0 beta 2
- build against latest kdegraphics
- don't require dcraw, libkdcraw includes its own RAW decoding code


kphotoalbum-3.2-0.3.20081007svn.fc10
------------------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 3.2-0.2.20081007svn
- new snapshot (20081007svn)
- use create_tarball.rb (includes translations)
- build against latest kdegraphics
- fix typos in description


ksplice-0.9.1-2.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 0.9.1-2
- Fix typo in config patch

* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 0.9.1-1
- New upstream release


libUnihan-0.5.2-0.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.5.2-0
- New Features:
  + New pseudo field 'ZhuYin'.
  + allocate.h is in API.
  + New unihan_query options: -O -P -T -Z -z
  + Scalar String (U+XXXXX) is now be able to use in the input of Field query.
  + New functions: unihanField_is_case_no_change() and unihanField_is_lowercase()
- Fixed:
  + Behavior of unihan_query -U is now corrected.
  + Descriptions about pseudo field are corrected.
  + Handle NULL of str in stringList_insert(StringList *sList, const char *str).
- Changed:
  + In document, "simply query" is replaced by "field query".
  + unihanField_is_scalar_value() is renamed as unihanField_is_ucs4().
  + pinyin_strip_tone() and zhuYin_strip_tone()  now return 0 if tone of pinyin/zhuyin is not specified.
  + Doxyfile is renamed as Doxygen.in, so no need to manually modified the  version number.


libprelude-0.9.21.1-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> - 0.9.21.1-1
- New upstream bugfix release
- resolves: #465228 - prelude-admin is looking for tls.conf in /usr


libusb-0.1.12-18.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at redhat.com> 0.1.12-18
- fix multiarch conflict in libusb-devel (#465209)


lirc-0.8.4-0.4.pre2.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 - Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> - 0.8.4-0.4.pre2
- Update to 0.8.4pre2

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.8.4-0.3.pre1
- Fix more keycodes for the streamzap remote


lockdev-1.0.1-13.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Karel Zak <kzak at redhat.com> - 1.0.1-13
- refresh patches (due --fuzz=0)
- fix compiler warnings


m2crypto-0.19-1
---------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Miloslav Trma?? <mitr at redhat.com> - 0.19-1
- Update to m2crypto-0.19
- Fix some rpmlint warnings

* Thu Sep 18 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> - 0.18.2-8
- enable sparc arches


man-pages-ja-20080915-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 20080915-1
- updates to 20080915.


mkinitrd-6.0.65-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 6.0.65-1
- More built-in modules + live initrd fixup


nagios-plugins-1.4.13-5.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> 1.4.13-5
- Fixing patch, missing semicolon


nspluginwrapper-1.1.0-11.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> 1.1.0-11
- Unrevert patch from -7 because Warren was wrong
- Concurrent rpc_method_invoke() patch

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> 1.1.0-10
- Revert libcurl requires because it was done in an incorrect way
- Revert patch from -7 because it made things worse


openoffice.org-voikko-3.0-2.fc10
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Caol??n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 3.0-2
- add --force to protect against installing by rpm an extension which was
  previously installed manually


openswan-2.6.18-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Avesh Agarwal <avagarwa at redhat.com> - 2.6.18-1
- new upstream release
- modified default ipsec.conf to address rhbz#463931


perl-Crypt-SSLeay-0.57-9.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Maslanova <mmaslano at redhat.com> - 0.57-9
- add examples into doc


perl-Hook-LexWrap-0.20-6.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Corsepius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org> - 0.20-6
- Add Hook-LexWrap-0.20-cpan-rt-38892.diff to fix
  http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=38892
  (Bugs shows while building rt3).


perl-Test-SubCalls-1.08-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Cors??pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org> - 1.08-1
- Upstream update.
- Activate AUTOMATED_TESTING.


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.06.1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.5.0-0.2008.10.06.1
- Add "Solar" plugin from Charles Brej
- Move things around so computers with separate /usr boot
  (hopefully this won't break things, but it probably will)
- Make GDM show up on vt1 for all plugins


policycoreutils-2.0.57-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-1
- Update to upstream
	* Update po files from Dan Walsh.


pybliographer-1.2.11-4.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Zoltan Kota <z.kota at gmx.net> - 1.2.11-4
- we need gnome-python2-gnome for building as well,
  added to buildreqs

* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Zoltan Kota <z.kota at gmx.net> - 1.2.11-3
- fix gnome-python2 requirements (bug #465563)


pysvn-1.6.1-1.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Caitlyn O'Hanna <ravenoak at virtualxistenz.com> - 1.6.1-1
- Update to 1.6.1, fix F10 FBFS
- Disabled tests, might be because of subversion 1.5


python-paste-script-1.6.3-3.fc10
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Toshio Kuratomi <toshio at fedoraproject.org> - 1.6.3-3
- Require python-setuptools
- BuildRequire python-paste-deploy

* Sat Jun 14 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 1.6.3-1
- Update to Paste 1.6.3


python-tftpy-0.4.6-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 John A. Khvatov <ivaxer at fedoraproject.org> 0.4.6-1
- Update to 0.4.6


redhat-menus-8.9.11-7.fc10
--------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 8.9.11-7
- Remove obsolete no translation (#465673)


ricci-0.15.0-5.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Ryan McCabe <rmccabe at redhat.com> 0.15.0-5
- Generate the ricci NSS certificate database at startup if it doesn't exist
- By default, set the "propagate" attribute to true when setting a new cluster
  configuration file with "ccs_sync"


rrdtool-1.3.4-1.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.3.4-1
- Update to rrdtool 1.3.4


rtpproxy-1.2-0.2.alpha.200807211.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> - 1.2-0.2.alpha.200807211
- Added missing BuildRequires
- Added init-script


ruby-cairo-1.8.0-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Allisson Azevedo <allisson at gmail.com> 1.8.0-1
- Update to 1.8.0


ruby-gnome2-0.18.0-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Allisson Azevedo <allisson at gmail.com> 0.18.0-1
- Update to 0.18.0
- Removed ruby-gnome2-0.17.0-bz456816.patch


rubygem-gem2rpm-0.6.0-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 David Lutterkort <dlutter at redhat.com> - 0.6.0-1
- New version


scim-anthy-1.2.6-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 1.2.6-1
- New upstream release.

* Tue Mar  4 17:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 1.2.5-1
- New upstream release.


selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.10-3
- Fixes for confined xwindows and xdm_t


sim-0.9.5-0.11.20080923svn2261rev.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Pavel Alexeev <Pahan [ at ] Hubbitus [ DOT ] spb [ dOt.] su> - 0.9.5-0.11.20080923svn2261rev
- Install /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-icq.desctop only for fedora > 8. In fedora 8 it is conflicts with same file from kdenetworks
	( https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sim-0.9.5-0.10.20080923svn2261rev.fc8 ).
- Add Requires: kdenetwork >= 3.0.0 for Fedora 8


stapitrace-1.0.0-18.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10
------------------------------------------

syncevolution-0.7-4.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT] fedoraproject.org> - 0.7-4
- Rebuild against new libcppunit to fix broken deps


taglib-1.5-2.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1.5-2
- Encrypted frames taglib/Amarok crash (kde#161721)


util-linux-ng-2.14.1-3.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Karel Zak <kzak at redhat.com> 2.14.1-3
- fix #465761 -  mount manpage is missing uid/gid mount options for tmpfs
- refresh util-linux-ng-2.14-mount-file_t.patch (fuzz=0)


vnc-4.1.2-35.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 4.1.2-35
- updated patches due rpm 4.6 (#465099)
- build with -O2

* Mon Jul 28 18:00:00 2008 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 4.1.2-34.2
- removed initscript %config attribute

* Fri Jul 18 18:00:00 2008 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 4.1.2-34.1
- removed buildroot


writer2latex-0.5.0.2-2.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> 0.5.0.2-2
- update for guidelines


xastir-1.9.4-5.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Lucian Langa <cooly at gnome.eu.org> - 1.9.4-5
- upstream patch, fix for #435762


xautolock-2.2-6.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Ian Weller <ianweller at gmail.com> 2.2-6
- Fix build section from FTFBS (bug 464962)


xorg-x11-drv-mutouch-1.2.1-1.fc10
---------------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.2.1-1
- mutouch 1.2.1


xorg-x11-server-1.5.1-6.fc10
----------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.5.1-6
- xserver-1.5.0-xkb-core-kbd-map-fix.patch: don't invent groups when mapping
  from xkb to core and back, and squash canonical types into explicit ones on
  core reconstruction (2 patches). #460545

* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 1.5.1-5
- xserver-1.5.1-exa-fix-glyph-segfault.patch - fix EXA rects crash (462447)


Summary:
Added Packages: 9
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 80
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.i386 requires libbluetooth.so.2
	gnome-phone-manager-0.60-2.fc10.i386 requires libgnokii.so.3
	gnome-phone-manager-telepathy-0.60-2.fc10.i386 requires libgnokii.so.3
	gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc10.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.0.1
	6:kdepim-4.1.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgnokii.so.3
	libopensync-plugin-gnokii-0.36-1.fc10.i386 requires libgnokii.so.3
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libcman.so.2
	lvm2-cluster-2.02.39-3.fc10.i386 requires libdlm.so.2
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



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	gnome-phone-manager-0.60-2.fc10.ppc64 requires libgnokii.so.3()(64bit)
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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From craigevil at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 13:44:16 2008
From: craigevil at gmail.com (Craigevil)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:44:16 -0400
Subject: olpc-update
Message-ID: <cc7d4f50810070644l78beff10g558c892f163db2d@mail.gmail.com>

Had to go to the library this am to try to use the olpc-update. No matter
what I tried, sudo olpc-update, su- olpc-update; nothng worked. Ever command
returned unknown command. Downlaoding the updates now to try to update using
a usb drive. Wish me luck.

craigevil

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From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct  7 14:12:31 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:12:31 -0400
Subject: Screen is dimmed....
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810070346s4a4cb3fdvc9f662dd049c2d07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070346s4a4cb3fdvc9f662dd049c2d07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EB6E4F.1090506@sbcglobal.net>

Antonio M wrote:
> when I start any video player on F10 my screen is dimmed on my laptop,
> as energy manager would understand that is running on battery even if
> I am connected to the wall socket!!!
> This started after latest kernel updates: to recover from it I must
> log out and then log in.
> Any idea?? shall I file a bug (I guess against kernel..)???
>
>   
does your problem cover this Bug# 465577



From craigevil at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 14:27:45 2008
From: craigevil at gmail.com (Craigevil)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:27:45 -0400
Subject: olpc-update
Message-ID: <cc7d4f50810070727q2e95770du1b247bb092145e31@mail.gmail.com>

Ok finally have it updating using USB media. part of the problem is the
olcp-update command doesn't seem to be in my path, the only way to run it is
by using /usr/sbin/olpc-update. BTW what IRC channel are we testing in ?
craigevil

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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 14:28:08 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:28:08 +0200
Subject: Screen is dimmed....
In-Reply-To: <48EB6E4F.1090506@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4c37b6af0810070346s4a4cb3fdvc9f662dd049c2d07@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EB6E4F.1090506@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810070728s11e9c791hdd0020fd31885fc5@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/7 Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net>:
> Antonio M wrote:
>>
>> when I start any video player on F10 my screen is dimmed on my laptop,
>> as energy manager would understand that is running on battery even if
>> I am connected to the wall socket!!!
>> This started after latest kernel updates: to recover from it I must
>> log out and then log in.
>> Any idea?? shall I file a bug (I guess against kernel..)???
>>
>>
>
> does your problem cover this Bug# 465577
>
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sure about the Bug number???

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From dennis at ausil.us  Tue Oct  7 14:53:44 2008
From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:53:44 -0500
Subject: olpc-update
In-Reply-To: <cc7d4f50810070727q2e95770du1b247bb092145e31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc7d4f50810070727q2e95770du1b247bb092145e31@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200810070953.48987.dennis@ausil.us>

On Tuesday 07 October 2008 09:27:45 am Craigevil wrote:
> Ok finally have it updating using USB media. part of the problem is the
> olcp-update command doesn't seem to be in my path, the only way to run it
> is by using /usr/sbin/olpc-update. BTW what IRC channel are we testing in ?
> craigevil


the best place to ask about olpc-update is on the olpc-devel list at 
devel at lists.laptop.org  not on the fedora-test-list.  very few people here 
will even know what olpc-update actually is.


Dennis



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 15:07:59 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:07:59 -0500
Subject: olpc-update
In-Reply-To: <200810070953.48987.dennis@ausil.us>
References: <cc7d4f50810070727q2e95770du1b247bb092145e31@mail.gmail.com>
	<200810070953.48987.dennis@ausil.us>
Message-ID: <48EB7B4F.20807@gmail.com>

I think his question is in response to the need to upgrade the XO laptop 
that he received for testing fedora on it before he's able to install 
fedora on it.  Also everyone that received a XO laptop for testing 
fedora on it should be subscribed to this mailing list.
Cheers,
Chris


Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 October 2008 09:27:45 am Craigevil wrote:
>   
>> Ok finally have it updating using USB media. part of the problem is the
>> olcp-update command doesn't seem to be in my path, the only way to run it
>> is by using /usr/sbin/olpc-update. BTW what IRC channel are we testing in ?
>> craigevil
>>     
>
>
> the best place to ask about olpc-update is on the olpc-devel list at 
> devel at lists.laptop.org  not on the fedora-test-list.  very few people here 
> will even know what olpc-update actually is.
>
>
> Dennis
>
>   



From sgrubb at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 15:11:13 2008
From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:11:13 -0400
Subject: Bug Triage Recap 2008-09-30 + Meeting Reminder for tomorrow @
	1400 UTC
In-Reply-To: <48EA8531.6000600@redhat.com>
References: <48EA6E27.6050408@redhat.com>
	<6d06ce20810061349y77c639abtb9305d654d024e78@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EA8531.6000600@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200810071111.14159.sgrubb@redhat.com>

On Monday 06 October 2008 05:37:53 pm John Poelstra wrote:
> I'm leaning more towards the idea that the "Triaged" keyword makes the
> most sense because it doesn't disrupt the STATE change flow and simply
> adds meta data to bug.

+1. Thanks for continuing to think about this issue.

-Steve



From adrian at weelife.com  Tue Oct  7 15:41:41 2008
From: adrian at weelife.com (Adrian Mandy)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:41:41 -0700
Subject: olpc-update
In-Reply-To: <cc7d4f50810070727q2e95770du1b247bb092145e31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc7d4f50810070727q2e95770du1b247bb092145e31@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98be106d0810070841ic792b8cr1da0c1cbe7b88a3b@mail.gmail.com>

Also make sure you update to '8.2-767' I didn't notice that at the end of
the instructions at first so I updated to 711 the latest stable but it won't
boot from the SD with 711.

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From rstrode at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 16:05:04 2008
From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:05:04 -0400
Subject: login error
In-Reply-To: <a82b7ea20810030823p37647bb9j132a9f7290dd0ed7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a82b7ea20810022340q193a84f5y118d61a560ff978f@mail.gmail.com>	<48E61DA7.2050801@redhat.com>
	<a82b7ea20810030823p37647bb9j132a9f7290dd0ed7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EB88B0.7060300@redhat.com>

Hi,
> you are right but the magic is:
>    * I've done an upgrade with correct keyboad setting.
>    * In console mode the keyboard is ok
>    * after login (my account or after changing passwd - the keyboard is ok
>
> Only in the login input field I have the bad setting. Do you know the 
> config file to set this?
So if you click on your username in the face browser, then on the panel 
on the bottom edge of the screen there should be the option
for choosing a different keyboard.

--Ray



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 14:55:56 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:55:56 -0500
Subject: olpc-update
In-Reply-To: <cc7d4f50810070727q2e95770du1b247bb092145e31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc7d4f50810070727q2e95770du1b247bb092145e31@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EB787C.7090000@gmail.com>

I am pretty sure it's #fedora-testing

Craigevil wrote:
> Ok finally have it updating using USB media. part of the problem is 
> the olcp-update command doesn't seem to be in my path, the only way to 
> run it is by using /usr/sbin/olpc-update. BTW what IRC channel are we 
> testing in ?
> craigevil
>
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From gdk at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 16:39:39 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:39:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>


Hi folks.

As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
let's all get to know each other.

A reminder on getting started: see...

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO

--g



From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 16:58:18 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:58:18 -0700
Subject: olpc-update
In-Reply-To: <48EB787C.7090000@gmail.com>
References: <cc7d4f50810070727q2e95770du1b247bb092145e31@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EB787C.7090000@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810070958h5a9d5b4cjb11e877c5f3cc6fc@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Christopher David Desjardins  wrote:
>> by using /usr/sbin/olpc-update. BTW what IRC channel are we testing in ?

#fedora-qa is the IRC channel according to

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Getting_Started



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 16:58:00 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:58:00 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>

there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....

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From marco.crosio at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 17:03:38 2008
From: marco.crosio at gmail.com (Marco Crosio)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:03:38 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>

menu has moved from toolbar to the image...

2008/10/7 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>

> there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....
>
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From gdk at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 17:01:31 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:01:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: More info on XO Developer Keys
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071257290.28177@localhost.localdomain>


As it turns out, this is an automated process with a built-in delay (the 
purpose is to ensure that laptops aren't stolen and repurposed, and the 
delay gives time to report a theft).

Which means that the sooner you submit your request for a developer key, 
the sooner a developer key will pop out of the system.

The *very* specific directions, in case you've missed them in the other 
noise:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_Developer_Keys#Getting_a_developer_key_for_your_running_XO_laptop

The folks at OLPC are working on temporarily eliminating the delay between 
request and creation.  I will let you know as soon as I have more info.

--g



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 17:09:49 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:09:49 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/7 Marco Crosio <marco.crosio at gmail.com>:
> menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
>
> 2008/10/7 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>>
>> there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....
>>
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funny decision, my two cents...
If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???




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From ranger at opennms.org  Tue Oct  7 17:09:52 2008
From: ranger at opennms.org (Benjamin Reed)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:09:52 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48EB97E0.9070103@opennms.org>

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so
> let's all get to know each other.
> 
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO

I got mine, thanks!


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From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 17:12:21 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (kwhiskerz)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:12:21 -0600
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gcg5a5$sj$2@ger.gmane.org>

Antonio M wrote:

> there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....
> 
That's supposed to be the heralded improvement!!? They still haven't managed to finally get the program to open in a single window.



From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk  Tue Oct  7 17:12:01 2008
From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:12:01 +0100
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1223399521.24836.30.camel@PB3.Linux>

Hi,

> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself. 

I'd love to but you can't buy them in the UK :-(

TTFN

Paul
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 17:21:40 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:21:40 +0200
Subject: Pulseaudio???
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810071021s1700b4aavab444354018239a5@mail.gmail.com>

it seems that after yesterday updates, pulseaudio after a a while
reduces volume on one channel (the left in my case...) and if I open
volume manager and I move sliders (that are locked) everything comes
back...



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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 17:23:45 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:23:45 +0200
Subject: Gstreamer???
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810071023o11ddb589v3590c807ac6ef499@mail.gmail.com>

If I play a radio stream http://www.radioswisspop.ch/live/mp3.m3u with
Rhythmbox stream gets many breakings while if played with VLC it
sounds great.
Shall I file a bug???

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Skype : antoniomontag



From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 17:30:44 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:30:44 -0400
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <gcg5a5$sj$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<gcg5a5$sj$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810071030x7f25f23bk284871ace6b746d7@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:12 PM, kwhiskerz <kwhiskerz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Antonio M wrote:
>
> > there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....
> >
> That's supposed to be the heralded improvement!!? They still haven't
> managed to finally get the program to open in a single window.


Single window operation is only useful for those people with poor window
managers,
or those that don't understand the usefulnessof having multiple windows in
the first place  :-)
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From craigevil at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 17:30:55 2008
From: craigevil at gmail.com (Craigevil)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:30:55 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <cc7d4f50810071030x75933403uceaa057ff59b87b1@mail.gmail.com>

Updated to the 711 and then wouldn't boot, Tried following the steps to get
previous OS:

[quote]To swap the "primary" and "alternate" images:

   - shutdown the XO
   - power-on *while holding down the* ' *O* ' *gamepad key*.
   - release the key when you're instructed to do so[/quote]

Boots then all I get is one dot and it goes no further. So either upgrading
screwed something up or it was already messed up. When I first booted it
took a long time, close to 5 minutes, so I am thinking there was already
something wrong. Where do I need to return it? Thanks.


On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:

>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a brief
> intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so let's all
> get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g
>
> --
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From zoo at stpaulterminal.org  Tue Oct  7 18:02:11 2008
From: zoo at stpaulterminal.org (david d zuhn)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:02:11 -0500
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <253b7410810071102s1561e02fg4a81b461fd4be337@mail.gmail.com>

Got the XO this morning, now I'm waiting for the SD cards to arrive to
get started doing useful stuff.

I've been working with various aspects of free software for 20 years
now, from the compiler toolchain to network infrastructure for high
performance computing.   Messing around with a small box like the XO
will be interesting, especially since there's hardware on them that I
don't have a lot of experience with (video especially).

FWIW, getting the JMRI (http://jmri.sourceforge.net/) suite working
seamlessly (ideally into a useful yum repo) with F10 is high on my
list of things to get done, on the XO and on regular hardware.


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zoo @ stpaulterminal.org



From tarus at opennms.org  Tue Oct  7 18:32:35 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:32:35 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <665BD653-CC8F-447D-AAA8-8C40EFCA0B02@opennms.org>


On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:

> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you  
> can respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO  
> and a brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite  
> a bit, so let's all get to know each other.


I'm in Hershey PA this week, so gdk sent it to the hotel. I have my  
4GB SD card so when I get there tonight I'll start working on it (I  
think I'm on the calendar for 6-8pm Eastern). According to FedEx it  
has been delivered.

I work along with Ben Reed at OpenNMS. Ben's also in the test and he  
got his XO this morning at the office. He's been working on the  
firmware upgrades, etc. and then getting his developer key. I'll be  
following his lead this evening.

-T
_______________________________________________________________________
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From tarus at opennms.org  Tue Oct  7 18:33:12 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:33:12 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <cc7d4f50810071030x75933403uceaa057ff59b87b1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<cc7d4f50810071030x75933403uceaa057ff59b87b1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6B6CFF06-09DF-48F0-8B2A-B4C3CC03FE78@opennms.org>


On Oct 7, 2008, at 1:30 PM, Craigevil wrote:

> Updated to the 711 and then wouldn't boot,

from another thread:

Also make sure you update to '8.2-767'

-T

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From jamundso at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 18:34:02 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:34:02 -0500
Subject: rawhide: codeina and PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin conflict
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810071134o1b4212d5mef4f6d57518487c8@mail.gmail.com>

Downloading Packages:
PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.3.5-4.fc10.x86_64.rpm                 |
51 kB     00:00
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test


Transaction Check Error:
  file /usr/libexec/gst-install-plugins-helper from install of
PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.3.5-4.fc10.x86_64 conflicts with file
from package codeina-0.10.1-9.fc10.noarch

Resolution: erase/install.

jerry

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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 19:31:21 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:31:21 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0810071030x7f25f23bk284871ace6b746d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<gcg5a5$sj$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<8204a4fe0810071030x7f25f23bk284871ace6b746d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810071231p4d6b5e52v952cbeb951ecad21@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/7 Fulko Hew <fulko.hew at gmail.com>:
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:12 PM, kwhiskerz <kwhiskerz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Antonio M wrote:
>>
>> > there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....
>> >
>> That's supposed to be the heralded improvement!!? They still haven't
>> managed to finally get the program to open in a single window.
>
> Single window operation is only useful for those people with poor window
> managers,
> or those that don't understand the usefulnessof having multiple windows in
> the first place  :-)
>
>
> --
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

I think that the entry for Gimp in menu was simply forgotten... ;-)


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From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 20:20:28 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:20:28 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1223410828.14949.5.camel@flatline>

Greetings,

I've received my XO and posted the steps I followed to get it booting
Fedora.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card

Hope this helps!

Thanks,
James

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 12:39 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
> let's all get to know each other.
> 
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
> 
> --g
> 
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From tarus at opennms.org  Tue Oct  7 20:37:25 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:37:25 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <1223410828.14949.5.camel@flatline>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<1223410828.14949.5.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <F4BAAD97-FCCA-46D3-A34B-83A8178EAA81@opennms.org>


On Oct 7, 2008, at 4:20 PM, James Laska wrote:

> I've received my XO and posted the steps I followed to get it booting
> Fedora.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/ 
> Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card

FAIL

Service Temporarily Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to  
maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

(grin)

-T


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From dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com  Tue Oct  7 20:41:58 2008
From: dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com (dave yates)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:41:58 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <db34c1810810071341n3adfb0fciad217ae28b378d97@mail.gmail.com>

I got mine!

brief intro:
I have used linux for 14 years. Have one wife, two girls and a podcast.


On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:

>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a brief
> intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so let's all
> get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g
>
> --
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From mcepl at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 20:39:09 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:39:09 +0200
Subject: Gstreamer???
References: <4c37b6af0810071023o11ddb589v3590c807ac6ef499@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0usr5x8no.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-07, 17:23 GMT, Antonio M wrote:
> If I play a radio stream http://www.radioswisspop.ch/live/mp3.m3u with
> Rhythmbox stream gets many breakings while if played with VLC it
> sounds great.
> Shall I file a bug???

I have already did -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/465757 -- does 
it help when you restart a computer?

Mat?j



From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Tue Oct  7 20:52:04 2008
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:52:04 -0400
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <48EA85EC.9040100@redhat.com>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>	<71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>	<48EA283F.405@cox.net>	<48EA2A14.609@hi.is>
	<48EA85EC.9040100@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48EBCBF4.5050800@cox.net>

John Poelstra wrote:
> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson said the following on 10/06/2008 08:09 AM Pacific 
> Time:
>> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>>> Chida wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel 
>>>> <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net <mailto:clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to launch a
>>>>     desktop during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  
>>>> Dropping to
>>>>     a terminal and doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT on 
>>>> the
>>>>     beta DVD) and creating an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver
>>>>     solves the problem.  I see several bzs that may be related to the
>>>>     ati problem but don't have any specific information except possibly
>>>>     the attached screen shot.  The graphics adapter is an RV630 [Radeon
>>>>     HD 2600 Series] on an ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have the same exact error.  I get a blank screen and then Fatal IO 
>>>> error 11.
>>>>
>>>> I have a 780G chipset motherboard. What hardware are you on?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hardware described above.
>>>
>> Testers it's better to provide the url from smolt
>> rather than using verbal descriptions.. :)
>> ( su -c 'smoltSendProfile -a' )
>>
>> JBG...
>>
> 
> Filing it in bugzilla also helps, particularly when people pile with "me 
> too" :)
> 
> John
> 

bz 466042

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From johannbg at hi.is  Tue Oct  7 20:55:26 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:55:26 +0000
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <48EBCBF4.5050800@cox.net>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>	<71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>	<48EA283F.405@cox.net>	<48EA2A14.609@hi.is>	<48EA85EC.9040100@redhat.com>
	<48EBCBF4.5050800@cox.net>
Message-ID: <48EBCCBE.3010001@hi.is>

Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> John Poelstra wrote:
>> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson said the following on 10/06/2008 08:09 AM 
>> Pacific Time:
>>> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>>>> Chida wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel 
>>>>> <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net <mailto:clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to 
>>>>> launch a
>>>>>     desktop during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  
>>>>> Dropping to
>>>>>     a terminal and doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT 
>>>>> on the
>>>>>     beta DVD) and creating an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver
>>>>>     solves the problem.  I see several bzs that may be related to the
>>>>>     ati problem but don't have any specific information except 
>>>>> possibly
>>>>>     the attached screen shot.  The graphics adapter is an RV630 
>>>>> [Radeon
>>>>>     HD 2600 Series] on an ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the same exact error.  I get a blank screen and then Fatal 
>>>>> IO error 11.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 780G chipset motherboard. What hardware are you on?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hardware described above.
>>>>
>>> Testers it's better to provide the url from smolt
>>> rather than using verbal descriptions.. :)
>>> ( su -c 'smoltSendProfile -a' )
>>>
>>> JBG...
>>>
>>
>> Filing it in bugzilla also helps, particularly when people pile with 
>> "me too" :)
>>
>> John
>>
>
> bz 466042
>
Add the kernel parameter nomodeset
and see if that works for you.

JBG



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 21:03:58 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:03:58 +0200
Subject: Gstreamer???
In-Reply-To: <d0usr5x8no.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <4c37b6af0810071023o11ddb589v3590c807ac6ef499@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0usr5x8no.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810071403g47440683p754ba36128af0e3d@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/7 Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com>:
> On 2008-10-07, 17:23 GMT, Antonio M wrote:
>> If I play a radio stream http://www.radioswisspop.ch/live/mp3.m3u with
>> Rhythmbox stream gets many breakings while if played with VLC it
>> sounds great.
>> Shall I file a bug???
>
> I have already did -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/465757 -- does
> it help when you restart a computer?
>
> Mat?j
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

I reverted to gstreamer-0.10.20-6.fc10 and now I could play for about
one hour then everything died (Rhythmbox crashed).
pulseaudio-0.9.13-1.fc10 is installed. Please have a look also to bug
466026 and 466027.
why playing multimedia is always a mess????

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 21:09:11 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:09:11 +0200
Subject: Gstreamer???
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810071403g47440683p754ba36128af0e3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810071023o11ddb589v3590c807ac6ef499@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0usr5x8no.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<4c37b6af0810071403g47440683p754ba36128af0e3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810071409t61e95936g285c60c3718f860a@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/7 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/7 Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com>:
>> On 2008-10-07, 17:23 GMT, Antonio M wrote:
>>> If I play a radio stream http://www.radioswisspop.ch/live/mp3.m3u with
>>> Rhythmbox stream gets many breakings while if played with VLC it
>>> sounds great.
>>> Shall I file a bug???
>>
>> I have already did -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/465757 -- does
>> it help when you restart a computer?
>>
>> Mat?j
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
> I reverted to gstreamer-0.10.20-6.fc10 and now I could play for about
> one hour then everything died (Rhythmbox crashed).
> pulseaudio-0.9.13-1.fc10 is installed. Please have a look also to bug
> 466026 and 466027.
> why playing multimedia is always a mess????
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

and after some time rhythmbox crashes and when I restart it I get:
rhythmbox: error while loading shared libraries: libgstbase-0.10.so.0:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue Oct  7 21:07:34 2008
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:07:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide: codeina and PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin conflict
References: <6d06ce20810071134o1b4212d5mef4f6d57518487c8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20081007T205805-78@post.gmane.org>

Jerry Amundson <jamundso <at> gmail.com> writes:
>   file /usr/libexec/gst-install-plugins-helper from install of
> PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.3.5-4.fc10.x86_64 conflicts with file
> from package codeina-0.10.1-9.fc10.noarch

Codeina is obsolete in Fedora. (I'm sure Fluendo (Codeina's upstream) will 
continue maintaining it out of Fedora, but Fedora will no longer support it.) I 
don't know why it didn't get obsoleted automatically, but removing codeina 
should fix your problem.

        Kevin Kofler



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 21:03:58 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:03:58 +0200
Subject: Gstreamer???
In-Reply-To: <d0usr5x8no.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <4c37b6af0810071023o11ddb589v3590c807ac6ef499@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0usr5x8no.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810071403g47440683p754ba36128af0e3d@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/7 Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com>:
> On 2008-10-07, 17:23 GMT, Antonio M wrote:
>> If I play a radio stream http://www.radioswisspop.ch/live/mp3.m3u with
>> Rhythmbox stream gets many breakings while if played with VLC it
>> sounds great.
>> Shall I file a bug???
>
> I have already did -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/465757 -- does
> it help when you restart a computer?
>
> Mat?j
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

I reverted to gstreamer-0.10.20-6.fc10 and now I could play for about
one hour then everything died (Rhythmbox crashed).
pulseaudio-0.9.13-1.fc10 is installed. Please have a look also to bug
466026 and 466027.
why playing multimedia is always a mess????

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From bkearney at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 21:19:22 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:19:22 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48EBD25A.6090603@redhat.com>

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
> let's all get to know each other.
> 
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO


XO came in this afternoon. I have requested a developer key, and will be 
  heading out to get the media tonite. Tonite I will go through the 
upgrade and the other steps.


Also.. the rubberized keyboard which I got is slightly ripped. Anyone 
know of a good glue to use to secure the key before it comes off? It is 
the / key, so I am pretty sure I will use it during testing :)

-- bk




From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  7 22:26:32 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:26:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fw: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
Message-ID: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 10/7/08, Chris Bredesen <cbredesen at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Chris Bredesen <cbredesen at redhat.com>
> Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
> To: "Fedora List" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 2:39 PM
> Hello List,
> 
> I'm on F10 (Dell D610 laptop) and so far it's gone
> very well.  rhgb 
> hangs but I shut that off anyhow.
> 
> I'm a bit confused about the Synaptics support. 
> I'd traditionally had a 
> large-ish xorg.conf that included all my Synaptics
> parameters making my 
> touchpad useful.
> 
> F10 doesn't ship with an xorg.conf and it seems that
> the input hotplug 
> facility now handles all of this.  However, I can't
> find any way to 
> tweak the parameters of my Synaptics pad.
> 
> I started down the road of creating a basic xorg.conf but
> it seems I 
> have to have quite a lot in there in order for X to even
> start.  I don't 
> want to do this if I don't have to.  So I have 2
> questions:
> 
> 1. Synaptics parameters are really *user* preferences --
> where should 
> these be stored, if X isn't controlling it?
> 
> 2. If I do revive my old xorg.conf, am I giving up any of
> the 
> dynamic-ness of newer Xorg in F10 by doing so?  I want to
> have X 
> completely manage my displays itself; no static data.
> 
> Any help is appreciated!  Original thread is on the forum,
> if you're 
> interested (but it's a dead end, as explained in my
> last post).
> 
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=200840
> 
> -Chris
> 
> -- 

Chris,

I forwarded this message to fedora-test-list, you are more likely to get a response over here, in contrast the regular list will complain that you posted this :(

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From caf at omen.com  Tue Oct  7 22:28:50 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:28:50 -0700
Subject: Rawhide Install crashes on Syntax Error.
Message-ID: <48EBE2A2.7020409@omen.com>

Invalid syntax on line 56 of /usr/lib/anaconda/textw/task_text/py

Are there tools for scanning Python scripts for syntax errrors etc.??

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From jkeating at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 22:34:27 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:34:27 -0700
Subject: Rawhide Install crashes on Syntax Error.
In-Reply-To: <48EBE2A2.7020409@omen.com>
References: <48EBE2A2.7020409@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1223418867.4410.35.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 15:28 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Are there tools for scanning Python scripts for syntax errrors etc.??

There are, but sometimes they can't get into all the twisty paths of a
program, particularly when the syntax in question depends on input from
other sources during an actual install.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From bpepple at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct  7 22:56:37 2008
From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:56:37 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
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On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 12:39 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
> let's all get to know each other.

Received mine this afternoon, along with my SD card from NewEgg.  Thanks
for your help on this, Greg! 

Later,
/B
-- 
Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org>

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple
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From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Tue Oct  7 23:02:07 2008
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:02:07 -0400
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <48EBCCBE.3010001@hi.is>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>	<71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>	<48EA283F.405@cox.net>	<48EA2A14.609@hi.is>	<48EA85EC.9040100@redhat.com>	<48EBCBF4.5050800@cox.net>
	<48EBCCBE.3010001@hi.is>
Message-ID: <48EBEA6F.30105@cox.net>

J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> <snip>
>>
> Add the kernel parameter nomodeset
> and see if that works for you.
> 
> JBG
> 

Doesn't work.  Same problem, same symptoms.  Thanks for the suggestion.


-- 
---------------------------------
Regards,

Old Fart



From rich.sharples at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 23:05:05 2008
From: rich.sharples at redhat.com (Rich Sharples)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:05:05 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48EBEB21.70703@redhat.com>

Just received mine - SD card still in the post.

Unlike many on the list - I now live firmly in user-land, have used 
various flavours of Linux pretty much exclusively over the last 9 years 
- I've only been using Fedora (9) for the last 6 months. Apologies in 
advance for the n00b questions ;)

Intro ... http://blog.softwhere.org/about

- Rich
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, 
> so let's all get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g
>


-- 
Rich Sharples
JBoss, a division of Red Hat Inc.

m : +1 919 265 9099
o : +1 919 754 4174

http://blog.softwhere.org



From poelstra at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 23:53:58 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:53:58 -0700
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-07
Message-ID: <48EBF696.8080504@redhat.com>

Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-07

Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.

== Attendees ==
* jds2001
* John5342
* ke4qqq
* poelcat
* jlaska
* mcepl

== NEW->ASSIGNED ==
* Should we change the definition of transition to ASSIGNED?
** https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow#ASSIGNED
* Adding a keyword of ''Triaged'' seems to be the best alternative
* Most attendees believe that this ''problem'' is not pervasive enough 
to change the established process
* '''RESOLVED''': revisit in a few months if this is really an issue

== Greasemonkey Bugzilla Assist Scripts ==
* try out latest version from comphappy
** http://bashton.fedorapeople.org/bugzilla_buttons_for_fed.user.js
* mcepl requests testing by @redhat.com users
** 
http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/scripts/greasemonkey/redhat/bugzillaCopyOwnerToCC.user.js

== FTBFS (Fails To Build From Source) ==
* Auto-filed for packages that fail to build from source
* Ask owner to automatically set new bugs in the following way so they 
do not need to be triaged
*# Change state to ASSIGNED
*# Review comment text to make sure it is descriptive and explains what 
is happening
*'''OWNER''': jds2001 to close with mdomsch

== FEver Bugs ==
* Auto-filed for packages that have new versions upstream at SourceForge
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/FEver
* Ask owner to automatically set new bugs in the following way so they 
do not need to be triaged
*# Change state to ASSIGNED
*# Review comment text to make sure it is descriptive and explains what 
is happening
*# Add ''FutureFeature'' keyword
*'''OWNER''': poelcat

== Topics for Next Week ==
# okay to triage your own bugs?
# How to create an organized effort to tackle growing list of new 
rawhide bugs: http://tinyurl.com/6llac8

== IRC Transcript ==



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Tue Oct  7 23:55:31 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:55:31 +0200
Subject: f10 beta reduced my laptop to a standalone console system
In-Reply-To: <48E571ED.4030007@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <48E571ED.4030007@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <48EBF6F3.5040106@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

shmuel siegel wrote:
> Ok. I am obviously over my head on this and need some help. I updated 
> an f9 dell d620 laptop to f10 beta. I was expecting to lose X as 
> others have reported problems with the intel driver but I thought that 
> updating to rawhide would solve that problem. The catch is that init 3 
> is not starting my wireless configuration and also won't let me bring 
> up eth0 complaining about problems with eth1.
> More specifically, when I try
> /sbin/ifup eth0
> I get the error messages
>
>     ./network=functions: line 211: rename_device: command not found
>     tg3 device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization
>
> so can someone tell me how to startup my network or how to get init 5 
> working without being able to update any files.
>
> Thanks
>
Interesting. X works on this machine with a full install instead of an 
update.



From michal at harddata.com  Wed Oct  8 00:13:31 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:13:31 -0600
Subject: serious font rendering problems after 20081007 changes
Message-ID: <20081008001331.GA23856@mail.harddata.com>

After applying updates from 20081007 (quite a few) my display
developed serious issues with font rendering.  The easiest is to
see that in gnome-terminal as it is easy to change magnification
with the same text displayed.  Depending on a magnification
degree different glyphs are affected.  They can be distorted,
or some pixels shifted to a side, or stripes of missing pixels
are running across and similar.  Only after raising magnification
to some ridiculous degree a display becomes "clean".  Fonts
in menus and window bars are affected as well but here changing
sizes is a bit more involved.  Before updates there was no
problem.

Do other see similar things happening?  I would file a bug
report, with pictures to illustrate the issue, but any idea
about which component we are talking about?  I am not sure.
Maybe this is xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.5.1-6.fc10.x86_64 or
a freshly installed babl-0.0.22-1.fc10.x86_64.  Something else?

   Michal



From dennisml at conversis.de  Wed Oct  8 00:19:17 2008
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:19:17 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de>

On 10/07/2008 07:09 PM, Antonio M wrote:
> 2008/10/7 Marco Crosio<marco.crosio at gmail.com>:
>> menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
>>
> funny decision, my two cents...
> If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???

Select File->New... from the menu?

Regards,
   Dennis



From msolberg at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 00:22:41 2008
From: msolberg at redhat.com (Michael Solberg)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:22:41 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1223425361.6750.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>


On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 12:39 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
> let's all get to know each other.

Mine was waiting for me when I got home.  Looking forward to getting
started playing around tonight.

I've been working on Linux for about ten years, doing system
administration, engineering, developing, and now consulting at Red Hat.
My girlfriend is a Montessori teacher and we're excited about looking
into how these could fit into that style of education.  I also have
three young nephews and nieces that I'm looking forward to running it
by.

Michael.




From elizabeth at eawestwriting.com  Wed Oct  8 00:41:33 2008
From: elizabeth at eawestwriting.com (Elizabeth Ann West)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:41:33 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <1223425361.6750.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<1223425361.6750.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1223426493.23555.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Wow, so the fedora-test-list is not for the faint of heart! I have 24
new emails and I could only make heads or tails of about half of them. 

I'm Elizabeth Ann West, a writer who lives just outside Charleston, SC
with my husband and an occasional visit from my adorable 8 year old
stepson. I am fairly new to Linux, about 6 months, but I'm very
enthusiastic. I joined Fedora Docs primarily as an editor, and also
contribute a great deal to my local LUG by planning outreach events
etc. 

Please bear with me if it seems like I ask a ton of novice questions, or
ask you to explain acronyms. In some ways, I might even be a good idea
of the types of issues a teacher or other adult encountering the XO with
a fairly strong technological background will run into. :)

I will purchase my SD card tomorrow while I am out in town. After that,
I look forward to contributing as much as I can, and eventually helping
OLPC with some of the curriculum aspects of the XO.

Always Smiling,
Elizabeth Ann West

Eawest just about everywhere.... :)

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 20:22 -0400, Michael Solberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 12:39 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> > Hi folks.
> > 
> > As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> > respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> > brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
> > let's all get to know each other.
> 
> Mine was waiting for me when I got home.  Looking forward to getting
> started playing around tonight.
> 
> I've been working on Linux for about ten years, doing system
> administration, engineering, developing, and now consulting at Red Hat.
> My girlfriend is a Montessori teacher and we're excited about looking
> into how these could fit into that style of education.  I also have
> three young nephews and nieces that I'm looking forward to running it
> by.
> 
> Michael.
> 
> 



From ssalevan at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 00:43:55 2008
From: ssalevan at redhat.com (Steven Salevan)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:43:55 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48EC024B.5040907@redhat.com>

Hey guys,
I've received my XO this afternoon and it's a remarkable little device 
(and quite the chick magnet, it seems).  I'm looking forward to testing 
F10 on it, as the combination of F10 and a small form factor will 
undoubtedly transform it into an ace subnotebook.

So!  An introduction, eh?  My name's Steve Salevan and I'm a QA engineer 
for Red Hat's RHN Satellite product, where I perform regression testing 
and code Selenium-based automated tests.  I've been an adamant Fedora 
user for about 4 years now and I'm an active participant in several 
community software projects such as Func and Spacewalk.  In my free time 
I serve as the resident local music director/prog rock geek of WKNC 
88.1FM, NC State's student-run radio station, and you can hear my weekly 
show, The Local Beat, on Fridays from 5-8PM.

If anyone around Raleigh cares to test the OLPC mesh networking 
functionality, we should crash the Flying Saucer sometime.
-Steve Salevan
ssalevan at redhat.com

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, 
> so let's all get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g
>



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 00:49:46 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:49:46 -0500
Subject: XO LAPTOP - Issue upgrading to build 767
In-Reply-To: <1223426493.23555.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<1223425361.6750.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1223426493.23555.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48EC03AA.7090503@gmail.com>

When trying to upgrade to the latest development build I get the 
following errors:
Trying disk:\boot-alt\bootfw.zip
Trying disk:\boot-alt\runos.zip
Trying nand:\boot-alt\bootfw.zip
Trying nand:\boot-alt\runos.zip
Boot Failed, Use power button to power off 

Also right before this I get a screen with a red warning that I have an 
unsigned key and I have a padlock in the upper right corner.  Makes me 
think I need the developer's key before I can do this?  Is this correct?

Thanks,
Chris



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 00:51:05 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:51:05 -0500
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <1223420197.32021.4.camel@kennedy>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<1223420197.32021.4.camel@kennedy>
Message-ID: <48EC03F9.8080006@gmail.com>

I received mine today.  I've been running Linux for 5 years and I am a 
graduate student in Educational Psychology.
C



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 00:51:24 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:51:24 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48EC024B.5040907@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EC024B.5040907@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48EC040C.9090904@redhat.com>

Steven Salevan wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I've received my XO this afternoon and it's a remarkable little device 
> (and quite the chick magnet, it seems).  I'm looking forward to testing 
> F10 on it, as the combination of F10 and a small form factor will 
> undoubtedly transform it into an ace subnotebook.
> 
> So!  An introduction, eh?  My name's Steve Salevan and I'm a QA engineer 
> for Red Hat's RHN Satellite product, where I perform regression testing 
> and code Selenium-based automated tests.  I've been an adamant Fedora 
> user for about 4 years now and I'm an active participant in several 
> community software projects such as Func and Spacewalk.  In my free time 
> I serve as the resident local music director/prog rock geek of WKNC 
> 88.1FM, NC State's student-run radio station, and you can hear my weekly 
> show, The Local Beat, on Fridays from 5-8PM.
> 
> If anyone around Raleigh cares to test the OLPC mesh networking 
> functionality, we should crash the Flying Saucer sometime.


Totally into that. I would also like to borrow someones locally to do 
some outreach at the school. BTW.. I picked up the following at circuit 
city today (paid about 5 to 10 bucks too much.. but hey.. the economy is 
great right?).

http://tinyurl.com/3hkker
http://tinyurl.com/4ljks9

I followed the same directions as earlier:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card

And only had the following issues:

1) I had to change my wifi router to be channel (1).
2) I had to make the new media card bootable:


# /sbin/parted /dev/sdb
(parted) print
Model: Multi Flash Reader (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 2033MB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start  End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
  1      127kB  2031MB  2031MB  primary  fat16

(parted) toggle 1 boot
(parted) quit


20 hours and 5 minutes till my key is ready :)

-- bk




From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 00:52:26 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:52:26 -0400
Subject: XO LAPTOP - Issue upgrading to build 767
In-Reply-To: <48EC03AA.7090503@gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<1223425361.6750.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1223426493.23555.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EC03AA.7090503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EC044A.5060907@redhat.com>

Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> When trying to upgrade to the latest development build I get the 
> following errors:
> Trying disk:\boot-alt\bootfw.zip
> Trying disk:\boot-alt\runos.zip
> Trying nand:\boot-alt\bootfw.zip
> Trying nand:\boot-alt\runos.zip
> Boot Failed, Use power button to power off
> Also right before this I get a screen with a red warning that I have an 
> unsigned key and I have a padlock in the upper right corner.  Makes me 
> think I need the developer's key before I can do this?  Is this correct?


I did not need the key. Did you follow hte clean install steps? I 
followed them but had to actually reboot it manually one time.

-- bk




From bpowell01 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 01:00:46 2008
From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:00:46 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <96365e610810071800n1719e313n5c46d5314987de82@mail.gmail.com>

Mine was waiting for me when I got home, I am requesting the developer
key this evening and getting everything ready to go.

A little background, I have been a Linux user for over 8 years (Red
Hat , Fedora and Debian), I am employed by a Red Hat Advanced Partner
as a Linux Engineer / Consultant. I am married with 3 kids (2 girls
and 1 boy).

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a brief
> intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so let's all
> get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



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Regards,

BrianPowell
http://fedoraproject.org



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 01:09:18 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:09:18 -0500
Subject: XO LAPTOP - Issue upgrading to build 767
In-Reply-To: <48EC044A.5060907@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<1223425361.6750.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1223426493.23555.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48EC03AA.7090503@gmail.com>
	<48EC044A.5060907@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48EC083E.7030404@gmail.com>

Yeah I did.  The initial warning says ...
Filesystem image found - No signature for our key. 
C

Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
>> When trying to upgrade to the latest development build I get the 
>> following errors:
>> Trying disk:\boot-alt\bootfw.zip
>> Trying disk:\boot-alt\runos.zip
>> Trying nand:\boot-alt\bootfw.zip
>> Trying nand:\boot-alt\runos.zip
>> Boot Failed, Use power button to power off
>> Also right before this I get a screen with a red warning that I have 
>> an unsigned key and I have a padlock in the upper right corner.  
>> Makes me think I need the developer's key before I can do this?  Is 
>> this correct?
>
>
> I did not need the key. Did you follow hte clean install steps? I 
> followed them but had to actually reboot it manually one time.
>
> -- bk
>
>



From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed Oct  8 01:18:34 2008
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:18:34 -0400
Subject: ignore or bugzilla?
Message-ID: <20081007211834.506f3a90@zooty>

I got these errors updating my f10 beta system just now:

  Updating       : gimp                                          [ 87/203] 
No output from 'pkg-config --variable=prefix gimp-2.0'
ln: creating symbolic link `/plug-ins/xsane': No such file or directory
  Updating       : gstreamer-plugins-good                        [ 88/203] 
  Updating       : openoffice.org-voikko                         [ 89/203] 
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
  what():  std::bad_alloc

The gimp one seems like it is probably harmless, but the openoffice
one looks like it might be a problem. Should I bugzilla it?



From linux at elfshadow.net  Wed Oct  8 01:21:48 2008
From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:21:48 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <10e0a9b00810071821n5e6f4cedo17d2b3ec6cb3112c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a brief
> intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so let's all
> get to know each other.

Mine was on the porch when I got home this evening.  Initial boots
seems the hardware is doing fine and it seems to be in good shape so
far.

I've been using Linux in some form or other since late '99 and became
an active contributor with Fedora in early 2006.  I helped out with
the infrastructure team early on until my second child was born.
Since then I have been primarily involved with the Fedora Ambassadors
and any other areas I can help out in as needed.

~Jeffrey



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 01:44:51 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:44:51 -0500
Subject: XO LAPTOP - Issue upgrading to build 767 - RESOLVED
In-Reply-To: <48EC044A.5060907@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<1223425361.6750.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<1223426493.23555.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48EC03AA.7090503@gmail.com>
	<48EC044A.5060907@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48EC1093.8050904@gmail.com>

OK I think I solved my issue.  I used a terminal to copy the files 
instead of nautilus and it worked this time.  So if you get the same 
error I got use cp from a terminal.
C

Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
>> When trying to upgrade to the latest development build I get the 
>> following errors:
>> Trying disk:\boot-alt\bootfw.zip
>> Trying disk:\boot-alt\runos.zip
>> Trying nand:\boot-alt\bootfw.zip
>> Trying nand:\boot-alt\runos.zip
>> Boot Failed, Use power button to power off
>> Also right before this I get a screen with a red warning that I have 
>> an unsigned key and I have a padlock in the upper right corner.  
>> Makes me think I need the developer's key before I can do this?  Is 
>> this correct?
>
>
> I did not need the key. Did you follow hte clean install steps? I 
> followed them but had to actually reboot it manually one time.
>
> -- bk
>
>



From sandeen at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 01:46:27 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:46:27 -0500
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48EC10F3.5060203@redhat.com>

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
> let's all get to know each other.
> 
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
> 
> --g
> 

ACK - just got it tonight.

As for the intro, I work at Red Hat on filesystems (looks like I should
study up on jffs2, maybe), and occasionally dabble in other things as
well - I also have a couple kids who are very excited to play with the
XO once I'm done with the testing (That's a laptop?  and we can use it?
 COOL!)  :)

-Eric



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  8 02:21:01 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:21:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Screen Blanking in KDE, no screensaver
Message-ID: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers,

I have a question regarding screen blanking in KDE.  When using GNOME, it is pretty simple, all we have to do is 

Systems ---> Preferences ---> Look and Feel ---> Screen Saver

select Power Management and set the time for the screen to blank and we are done.  However, in KDE an equivalent option does not seem to be available.  IF there is one, could someone please share it.  I get automatic blanking of the screen on two of the three machines that I run rawhide on.  I am using KDE most of the time, but I also switch to GNOME once in a while.  Two of the three machines have an xorg.conf file, but one of them does not.  The two that have have an option "DPMS" in the xorg.conf file.  The one that does not have an xorg.conf file was installed from Fedora 10 Beta Install DVD.  

Thanks in Advance,

Antonio 


      



From bpowell01 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 03:24:01 2008
From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:24:01 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <96365e610810071800n1719e313n5c46d5314987de82@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<96365e610810071800n1719e313n5c46d5314987de82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96365e610810072024qadb9474pbf4d823668a3b3f8@mail.gmail.com>

Finally got a chance to get some time on the XO and as delivered the
unit would not boot properly and it kept powering itself off. So I
followed the steps of a clean install and it began going through the
erase process but only got about 5 lines of blocks (green) before the
unit shut itself down again when it rebooted I get nothing but a blank
screen and now the battery light blinking red.


Any suggestions?

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Brian Powell <bpowell01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mine was waiting for me when I got home, I am requesting the developer
> key this evening and getting everything ready to go.
>
> A little background, I have been a Linux user for over 8 years (Red
> Hat , Fedora and Debian), I am employed by a Red Hat Advanced Partner
> as a Linux Engineer / Consultant. I am married with 3 kids (2 girls
> and 1 boy).
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks.
>>
>> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
>> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a brief
>> intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so let's all
>> get to know each other.
>>
>> A reminder on getting started: see...
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>>
>> --g
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> BrianPowell
> http://fedoraproject.org
>



-- 
Regards,

BrianPowell
http://fedoraproject.org



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct  8 03:42:32 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:12:32 +0530
Subject: ignore or bugzilla?
In-Reply-To: <20081007211834.506f3a90@zooty>
References: <20081007211834.506f3a90@zooty>
Message-ID: <48EC2C28.3020308@fedoraproject.org>

Tom Horsley wrote:
> I got these errors updating my f10 beta system just now:
> 
>   Updating       : gimp                                          [ 87/203] 
> No output from 'pkg-config --variable=prefix gimp-2.0'
> ln: creating symbolic link `/plug-ins/xsane': No such file or directory
>   Updating       : gstreamer-plugins-good                        [ 88/203] 
>   Updating       : openoffice.org-voikko                         [ 89/203] 
> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
>   what():  std::bad_alloc
> 
> The gimp one seems like it is probably harmless, but the openoffice
> one looks like it might be a problem. Should I bugzilla it?

Please do.

Rahul



From stuart at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 04:23:36 2008
From: stuart at redhat.com (Stuart R. Kirk)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:23:36 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48EC35C8.2000304@redhat.com>

ack

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a
> brief intro of yourself. We'll all be working together quite a bit, so
> let's all get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g
>

-- 
Cheers,

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From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Wed Oct  8 04:26:52 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:26:52 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de>
Message-ID: <48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Dennis J. wrote:
> On 10/07/2008 07:09 PM, Antonio M wrote:
>> 2008/10/7 Marco Crosio<marco.crosio at gmail.com>:
>>> menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
>>>
>> funny decision, my two cents...
>> If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???
> 
> Select File->New... from the menu?

Doesn't he mean that Gimp is missing from the Gnome menu under
Applications -> Graphics?

Regards,
Patrick



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 04:41:49 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 06:41:49 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de> <48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/8 Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl>:
> Dennis J. wrote:
>>
>> On 10/07/2008 07:09 PM, Antonio M wrote:
>>>
>>> 2008/10/7 Marco Crosio<marco.crosio at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
>>>>
>>> funny decision, my two cents...
>>> If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???
>>
>> Select File->New... from the menu?
>
> Doesn't he mean that Gimp is missing from the Gnome menu under
> Applications -> Graphics?
>
> Regards,
> Patrick
>
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>

Right Patrick......I am mssing the item Gimp im my Application menu..


-- 
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Skype : antoniomontag



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct  8 05:20:39 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 00:20:39 -0500
Subject: ignore or bugzilla?
In-Reply-To: <20081007211834.506f3a90@zooty>
References: <20081007211834.506f3a90@zooty>
Message-ID: <20081008052039.GB9041@wolff.to>

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 21:18:34 -0400,
  Tom Horsley <tom.horsley at att.net> wrote:
> I got these errors updating my f10 beta system just now:
> 
>   Updating       : gimp                                          [ 87/203] 
> No output from 'pkg-config --variable=prefix gimp-2.0'
> ln: creating symbolic link `/plug-ins/xsane': No such file or directory
>   Updating       : gstreamer-plugins-good                        [ 88/203] 
>   Updating       : openoffice.org-voikko                         [ 89/203] 
> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
>   what():  std::bad_alloc
> 
> The gimp one seems like it is probably harmless, but the openoffice
> one looks like it might be a problem. Should I bugzilla it?

I made one (#465869) yesterday. There was an attempted fix, though when I
updated this afternoon I got the message again. I am not sure if it came
from uninstalling the broken version or if the new version still has
a problem.



From niftyfedora at niftyegg.com  Wed Oct  8 05:28:42 2008
From: niftyfedora at niftyegg.com (Nifty Fedora Mitch)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 22:28:42 -0700
Subject: olpc-update
In-Reply-To: <cc7d4f50810070644l78beff10g558c892f163db2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc7d4f50810070644l78beff10g558c892f163db2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081008052842.GA3091@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:44:16AM -0400, Craigevil wrote:
> Subject: olpc-update
> 
>    Had to go to the library this am to try to use the olpc-update. No
>    matter what I tried, sudo olpc-update, su- olpc-update; nothng worked.
>    Ever command returned unknown command. Downlaoding the updates now to
>    try to update using a usb drive. Wish me luck.
>    craigevil
>    --

What are you updating to.
olpc-update expects a comman line option that references and image to
update to.  You can get the info about the 'latest' from the OLPC wiki.

The update process should not be interrupted.   Make sure
you are connected to reliable power... i.e. plugged in to AC charging power.

Also internet connectivity is required... Can you use the web browser activity to
browse the OLPC wiki for hints.

If you have tanked the image on your olpc you may need to load a USB key
with the update or a failsave/ live image.

Does the OLPC boot now?



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From spowd at bigpond.com  Wed Oct  8 05:42:04 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (greg)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:42:04 +1100
Subject: Compiz-0.7.8 an Compiz-Fusion-0.7.8
Message-ID: <1223444524.3178.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

can anyone tell me whose best to contact to get these in the final? 
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From ajchida at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 06:05:09 2008
From: ajchida at gmail.com (Chida)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 11:35:09 +0530
Subject: Compiz-0.7.8 an Compiz-Fusion-0.7.8
In-Reply-To: <1223444524.3178.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223444524.3178.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM, greg <spowd at bigpond.com> wrote:

> can anyone tell me whose best to contact to get these in the final?
>


File an for improvement against rawhide compiz at http://bugzilla.redhat.com
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From spowd at bigpond.com  Wed Oct  8 06:10:47 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (greg)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:10:47 +1100
Subject: Compiz-0.7.8 an Compiz-Fusion-0.7.8
In-Reply-To: <71b7a9890810072305s5540355bie652a6c7692eab89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223444524.3178.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<71b7a9890810072305s5540355bie652a6c7692eab89@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 11:35 +0530, Chida wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM, greg <spowd at bigpond.com> wrote:
>         can anyone tell me whose best to contact to get these in the
>         final?
> 
> 
> File an for improvement against rawhide compiz at
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com
>  
> 
> 
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thanks.. just created an account.. an no confirmation email :) hows one
suposed to get this in if i cant get a confirmation email 
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From craigevil at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 06:13:44 2008
From: craigevil at gmail.com (Craigevil)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 02:13:44 -0400
Subject: olpc-update
In-Reply-To: <20081008052842.GA3091@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
References: <cc7d4f50810070644l78beff10g558c892f163db2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081008052842.GA3091@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
Message-ID: <cc7d4f50810072313l2fe828b7k9e7190b8dccacb1c@mail.gmail.com>

Updated just fine, although I did update to the 711 and not 767. But after
booting 1 time, I got a weird set of errors about being out of disk space.
after that it boots to a blank screen not even a blinking cursor.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Nifty Fedora Mitch <niftyfedora at niftyegg.com
> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:44:16AM -0400, Craigevil wrote:
> > Subject: olpc-update
> >
> >    Had to go to the library this am to try to use the olpc-update. No
> >    matter what I tried, sudo olpc-update, su- olpc-update; nothng worked.
> >    Ever command returned unknown command. Downlaoding the updates now to
> >    try to update using a usb drive. Wish me luck.
> >    craigevil
> >    --
>
> What are you updating to.
> olpc-update expects a comman line option that references and image to
> update to.  You can get the info about the 'latest' from the OLPC wiki.
>
> The update process should not be interrupted.   Make sure
> you are connected to reliable power... i.e. plugged in to AC charging
> power.
>
> Also internet connectivity is required... Can you use the web browser
> activity to
> browse the OLPC wiki for hints.
>
> If you have tanked the image on your olpc you may need to load a USB key
> with the update or a failsave/ live image.
>
> Does the OLPC boot now?
>
>
>
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 07:22:39 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 09:22:39 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de> <48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810080022r28dc322eib6327b5223a98307@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/8 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/8 Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl>:
>> Dennis J. wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/07/2008 07:09 PM, Antonio M wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 2008/10/7 Marco Crosio<marco.crosio at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
>>>>>
>>>> funny decision, my two cents...
>>>> If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???
>>>
>>> Select File->New... from the menu?
>>
>> Doesn't he mean that Gimp is missing from the Gnome menu under
>> Applications -> Graphics?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Patrick
>>
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>
> Right Patrick......I am mssing the item Gimp im my Application menu..
>
>
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> Skype : antoniomontag
>

funny things happening: on another system Gimp menu is there!!! how
shall I put that Gimp in the Application/Graphics menu???

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From segg2 at videotron.ca  Wed Oct  8 07:33:03 2008
From: segg2 at videotron.ca (Gilles J. Seguin)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:33:03 -0400
Subject: sound issues on some intel systems
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810040054i4068fc4rb3b449523c4a17b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810040054i4068fc4rb3b449523c4a17b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223451183.3154.17.camel@tiger.videotron.ca>

On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 09:54 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> I find really funny that from one kernel to the next kernel sound
> maybe good or ugly!!!
> If I play a radio stream for example
> 
> kernel-2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 is fine
> kernel-2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 is ugly (many breaks as system
> plays faster than due and Rhythmbox buffer becomes empty)
> 
> And this happens since F9 was released (I installed a F10 kernel to
> solve the problem!!) and it is recurring in F10
> See for example  Bug 441087 -  Sound/music playing faster than it
> should on intel chipset
should on [some] intel chipset[s]

look to me like, you have a proposed temporary fix.

> So when a kernel is released first I have to check sound, if sound is
> ugly delete it.




From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 08:02:15 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:02:15 +0200
Subject: sound issues on some intel systems
In-Reply-To: <1223451183.3154.17.camel@tiger.videotron.ca>
References: <4c37b6af0810040054i4068fc4rb3b449523c4a17b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223451183.3154.17.camel@tiger.videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810080102m31bcd62cq511983590c4035a4@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/8 Gilles J. Seguin <segg2 at videotron.ca>:
> On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 09:54 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
>> I find really funny that from one kernel to the next kernel sound
>> maybe good or ugly!!!
>> If I play a radio stream for example
>>
>> kernel-2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 is fine
>> kernel-2.6.27-0.382.rc8.git4.fc10.i686 is ugly (many breaks as system
>> plays faster than due and Rhythmbox buffer becomes empty)
>>
>> And this happens since F9 was released (I installed a F10 kernel to
>> solve the problem!!) and it is recurring in F10
>> See for example  Bug 441087 -  Sound/music playing faster than it
>> should on intel chipset
> should on [some] intel chipset[s]
>
> look to me like, you have a proposed temporary fix.
>
>> So when a kernel is released first I have to check sound, if sound is
>> ugly delete it.
>
>
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Gilles

I am confused about this issue:please see also :
 Bug 466026 -  Sound fades on one channel
 Bug 466027 -  sound is bad in gstreamer

Now I think that the culprit is gstreamer as Rhythmbox crashes while
VLC plays great same radio stream.....
And this is only for one system working with ICH5 chip
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From denis at poolshark.org  Wed Oct  8 08:31:51 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:31:51 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de>
	<48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>

Antonio M wrote:
> Right Patrick......I am mssing the item Gimp im my Application menu..

Keep in mind the menu entry is actually called "GNU Image Manipulation 
Image"...



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 08:48:33 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:48:33 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de> <48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
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2008/10/8 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org>:
> Antonio M wrote:
>>
>> Right Patrick......I am mssing the item Gimp im my Application menu..
>
> Keep in mind the menu entry is actually called "GNU Image Manipulation
> Image"...
>
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anyway, it is missing :-)

Just to fix it, in one case (where it is present) I installed Gimp 2.6
and at same time I disinstalled Gimp 2.4 by yumex..
Where it is not present, I disinstalled first Gimp 2.4 and then I
installed Gimp 2.6.
Any help??
I planning to remove tonight completely Gimp 2.6 and reinstall
it...let's if it fixes the issue.


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From john5342 at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  8 09:34:29 2008
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:34:29 +0100
Subject: Screen Blanking in KDE, no screensaver
In-Reply-To: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0810080234h342309efn2def313547e041a2@mail.gmail.com>

Power management for displays in kde is in System Settings -> Display ->
Power Control. and Screen saver is in System Settings -> Desktop -> Screen
Saver. Dont use either of them myself but hope thats what your looking for.

2008/10/8 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>

> Dear fellow testers,
>
> I have a question regarding screen blanking in KDE.  When using GNOME, it
> is pretty simple, all we have to do is
>
> Systems ---> Preferences ---> Look and Feel ---> Screen Saver
>
> select Power Management and set the time for the screen to blank and we are
> done.  However, in KDE an equivalent option does not seem to be available.
>  IF there is one, could someone please share it.  I get automatic blanking
> of the screen on two of the three machines that I run rawhide on.  I am
> using KDE most of the time, but I also switch to GNOME once in a while.  Two
> of the three machines have an xorg.conf file, but one of them does not.  The
> two that have have an option "DPMS" in the xorg.conf file.  The one that
> does not have an xorg.conf file was installed from Fedora 10 Beta Install
> DVD.
>
> Thanks in Advance,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
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From denis at poolshark.org  Wed Oct  8 09:57:26 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:57:26 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de>
	<48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
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Message-ID: <48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>

Antonio M wrote:
> Just to fix it, in one case (where it is present) I installed Gimp 2.6
> and at same time I disinstalled Gimp 2.4 by yumex..
> Where it is not present, I disinstalled first Gimp 2.4 and then I
> installed Gimp 2.6.
> Any help??
> I planning to remove tonight completely Gimp 2.6 and reinstall
> it...let's if it fixes the issue.

what does 'rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop' return ?

and 'rpm -V gimp' ?

You can also run "update-desktop-database" as root.



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct  8 10:21:50 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed,  8 Oct 2008 10:21:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081008 changes
Message-ID: <20081008102150.CD4491F81CF@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed Oct  8 06:01:09 UTC 2008

New package bouncycastle-mail
        S/MIME and CMS libraries for Bouncy Castle
New package hulahop
        A pygtk widget for embedding mozilla
New package hunspell-mk
        Macedonian hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-tl
        Tagalog hunspell dictionaries
New package libss7
        SS7 protocol services to applications
New package nagios-plugins-check_sip
        A Nagios plugin to check SIP servers and devices
New package obexd
        D-Bus service for Obex Client access
New package perl-Text-SpellChecker
        OO interface for spell-checking a block of text
Removed package gtkmozembedmm
Updated Packages:

R2spec-2.5.1-1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Pingou <pingou-at-pingoured.fr> 2.5.1-1
- New upstream release


Xaw3d-1.5E-12.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 1.5E-12
- Remove obsolete PreReq and Prefix stuff from specfile
- Fix BuildRoot to match the guidelines
- Require base package by full EVR from devel package
- Drop non relevant Patches and Sources
- Rebase the still relevant patches
- Actually apply the still relevant patches
- Add a patch from Debian fixing an infinite loop (rh436998)
- Add patches from Debian fixes various potential bufferoverflows


aqsis-1.4.1-3.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.4.1-3
- backport gcc43 fix for bake.cpp

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.4.1-2
- backport patch for intsize problem

* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1

* Fri Jul 25 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.4.0-1
- Update to 1.4.0


bind-9.5.1-0.8.b2.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 32:9.5.1-0.8.b2
- removed bind-9.4.0-dnssec-directory.patch, it is wrong


blender-2.47-5.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 2.47-5
- Reorganisation directory structure to fix sysinfo.py issue

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 2.47-4
- Avoid duplicate python script (#465810)


ecryptfs-utils-59-1.fc10
------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Mike Halcrow <mhalcrow at us.ibm.com> 59-1
- Put attr declaration in the right spot

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Mike Halcrow <mhalcrow at us.ibm.com> 59-0
- Make /sbin/*ecryptfs* files setuid
- Add /sbin path to ecryptfs-setup-private


eric-4.2.2a-1.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 4.2.2a-1
- 4.2.2a


file-4.26-2.fc10
----------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Daniel Novotny <dnovotny at redhat.com> 4.26-2
- fix #463809: rpmbuild rpmfcClassify: Assertion fails on some binary files
  (false positive test on "DOS device driver" crashed file(1)
   and rpmbuild(8) failed)


galeon-2.0.7-2.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 2.0.7-2
- Added patches to fix default font (#212616) and printing (#449806). Yay.


gcompris-8.4.7-1.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Johan Cwiklinski <johan AT x-tnd DOT be> 8.4.7-1
- New upstream bugfix release 8.4.7


gegl-0.0.20-1.fc10
------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Deji Akingunola <dakingun at gmail.com> - 0.0.20-1
- Update to latest release


ghdl-0.27-0.105svn.0.fc10
-------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Sailer <t.sailer at alumni.ethz.ch> - 0.27-0.105svn.0
- update to svn105


gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 2:2.6.0-2
- move gimptool to devel subpackage
- make gimp-plugin-mgr not require gimptool/pkg-config (#465869)


gnome-phone-manager-0.60-3.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.60-3
- Rebuild for new libgnokii


gpicview-0.1.10-1.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Sep 14 18:00:00 2008 Marc Wiriadisastra <marc at mwiriadi.id.au> - 0.1.10-1
- New upstream release


gvfs-1.0.1-5.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com>  - 1.0.1-5
- Don't make warnings fatal (resolves #465693)


jd-2.0.3-0.1.svn2379_trunk.fc10
-------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 2379


kdepim-4.1.2-2.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-2
- rebuild for new gnokii


latencytop-0.4-2.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Michal Schmidt <mschmidt at redhat.com> - 0.4-2
- Add an upstream patch to update the translation table.


libbonobo-2.24.0-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Own /usr/lib/bonobo for noarch packages (bug 463054)


libcdio-0.80-5.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Adrian Reber <adrian at lisas.de> - 0.80-5
- fixed #462125 (Multilib conflict) - really, really, really
  (also remove architecture information from man pages)


libvirt-cim-0.5.2-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Kaitlin Rupert <kaitlin at us.ibm.com> - 0.5.2-1
- Updated to latest upstream source


ltrace-0.5-12.45svn.fc10
------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Petr Machata <pmachata at redhat.com> - 0.5-12.45svn
- Fix fork & exec patches to apply cleanly under --fuzz=0
- Resolves: #465036


lvm2-2.02.39-6.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Alasdair Kergon <agk at redhat.com>> - 2.02.39-6
- Only set exec_prefix once and configure explicit directories to work with
  new version of rpm.

* Fri Sep 26 18:00:00 2008 Fabio M. Di Nitto <fdinitto at redhat.cm> - 2.02.39-5
- Add BuildRequires on cmanlib-devel. This is required after libcman split
  from cman and cman-devel into cmanlib and cmanlib-devel.
- Make versioned BuildRequires on cman-devel and cmanlib-devel more strict
  to guarantee to get the right version.

* Thu Sep 25 18:00:00 2008 Fabio M. Di Nitto <fdinitto at redhat.cm> - 2.02.39-5
- Add versioned BuildRequires on new cman-devel.

* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 2.02.39-5
- Change %patch to %patch0 to match Patch0 as required by RPM package update.

* Thu Aug  7 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2.02.39-4
- Fix license tag.


mediatomb-0.11.0-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Marc Wiriadisastra <marc at mwiriadi.id.au> 0.11.0-3
- Added the line change for xulrunner

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Marc Wiriadisastra <marc at mwiriadi.id.au> 0.11.0-2
- Added patch from upstream for Curl


mod_python-3.3.1-8
------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 3.3.1-8
- fix build failure, thanks to Tomo Vuckovic (#465246)


netbeans-6.1-7.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Victor G. Vasilyev <victor.vasilyev at sun.com> 6.1-7
- Dependency upon java-sdk is added instead of java-1.6.0-openjdk (#464558, # 465891)


perl-5.10.0-47.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Ma??l????ov?? <mmaslano at redhat.com> 4:5.10.0-47.fc10
- rt#33242, rhbz#459918. Segfault after reblessing objects in Storable.
- rhbz#465728 upgrade Simple::Pod to 3.07


perl-Math-GMP-2.05-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 2.05-1
- New upstream maintainer, new upstream version 2.05
- 64-bit test suite compatibility issues fixed upstream, patch removed
- Run tests in verbose mode
- Add buildreq perl(Test::More) for basic test suite
- Add buildreqs perl(Module::Signature), perl(Perl::Critic), perl(Pod::Spell),
  perl(Test::Pod), perl(Test::YAML::Meta), and perl(Text::SpellChecker) for
  additional test suite functionality


perl-libwww-perl-5.816-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Ma??l????ov?? <mmaslano at redhat.com> 5.816-1
- update to 5.816
- fix #465855 - add --aliases into INSTALLDIRS
- use upstream patch for previous problem (see rt 38736)


php-pear-Cache-1.5.5-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Remi Collet <Fedora at FamilleCollet.com> 1.5.5-1
- finale 1.5.5


pigment-0.3.11-1.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Saou <http://freshrpms.net/> 0.3.11-1
- Update to 0.3.11.


purple-plugin_pack-2.4.0-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet+rpm at gmail.com> 2.4.0-1
- Upstream update
- Extract inner function in switchspell (#462822)


python-genshi-0.5.1-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 0.5.1-1
- Version 0.5.1
- http://svn.edgewall.org/repos/genshi/tags/0.5.1/
- (Jul 9 2008, from branches/stable/0.5.x)
- 
-  * Fix problem with nested match templates not being applied when buffering
-    on the outer `py:match` is disabled. Thanks to Erik Bray for reporting the
-    problem and providing a test case!
-  * Fix problem in `Translator` filter that would cause the translation of
-    text nodes to fail if the translation function returned an object that was
-    not directly a string, but rather something like an instance of the
-    `LazyProxy` class in Babel (ticket #145).
-  * Fix problem with match templates incorrectly being applied multiple times.
-  * Includes from templates loaded via an absolute path now include the correct
-    file in nested directories as long if no search path has been configured
-    (ticket #240).
-  * Unbuffered match templates could result in parts of the matched content
-    being included in the output if the match template didn't actually consume
-    it via one or more calls to the `select()` function (ticket #243).


renrot-1.1-1.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Andy Shevchenko <andy at smile.org.ua> - 1.1-1
- update to 1.1


rubygem-zoom-0.4.1-3.fc10
-------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 0.4.1-3
- Split out unneeded files in better way


system-config-firewall-1.2.12-1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Woerner <twoerner at redhat.com> 1.2.12-1
- only provide lang files in tui sub-package (rhbz#465572)
- updated translations for: as, bn_IN, ca, cs, es, fr, gu, it, ja, kn, mr, nl,
                            pa, or, pl, pt_BR, sk, zh_CN, zh_TW


totem-2.24.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 2.24.2-1
- Update to 2.24.2


totem-pl-parser-2.24.1-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


tuxcmd-0.6.50-2.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com> 0.6.50-2
- Hide '0' and NULL mount points
- GVFS plugin: supply proper user/pass for anonymous FTP login


tzdata-2008g-1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Petr Machata <pmachata at redhat.com> - 2008g-1
- Upstream 2008g
  - Fixed future DST transitions for Brazil


xesam-glib-0.5.0-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Deji Akingunola <dakingun at gmail.com> - 0.5.0-1
- Update to 0.5.0


xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.0.6-2.fc10
-------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 2.0.6-2
- evdev-2.0.6-force-rules-evdev.patch: force keyboard to use the evdev rules,
  not model. requires xkeyboard-config 1.4. (#457512)


xorg-x11-server-1.5.1-10.fc10
-----------------------------

xulrunner-1.9.0.2-4.fc10
------------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Marco Pesenti Gritti <mpg at redhat.com> 1.9.0.2-4
- Add missing dependency on python-devel

* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> 1.9.0.2-3
- Enable PyXPCOM


Summary:
Added Packages: 8
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 45
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
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	libopensync-plugin-gnokii-0.36-1.fc10.i386 requires libgnokii.so.3
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.x86_64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	libopensync-plugin-gnokii-0.36-1.fc10.x86_64 requires libgnokii.so.3()(64bit)
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc requires libbluetooth.so.2
	libopensync-plugin-gnokii-0.36-1.fc10.ppc requires libgnokii.so.3
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	libopensync-plugin-gnokii-0.36-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libgnokii.so.3()(64bit)
	livecd-tools-018-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	pyclutter-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-cairo-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gst-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gst-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	pyclutter-gtk-0.6.2-2.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From keith at karsites.net  Wed Oct  8 11:23:38 2008
From: keith at karsites.net (Keith Roberts)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 12:23:38 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Screen Blanking in KDE, no screensaver
In-Reply-To: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Screen Blanking in KDE, no screensaver
> 
> Dear fellow testers,
>
> I have a question regarding screen blanking in KDE.  When using GNOME, it is pretty simple, all we have to do is
>
> Systems ---> Preferences ---> Look and Feel ---> Screen 
> Saver
>
> select Power Management and set the time for the screen to 
> blank and we are done.  However, in KDE an equivalent 
> option does not seem to be available.  IF there is one, 
> could someone please share it.  I get automatic blanking 
> of the screen on two of the three machines that I run 
> rawhide on.  I am using KDE most of the time, but I also 
> switch to GNOME once in a while.  Two of the three 
> machines have an xorg.conf file, but one of them does not. 
> The two that have have an option "DPMS" in the xorg.conf 
> file.  The one that does not have an xorg.conf file was 
> installed from Fedora 10 Beta Install DVD.
>
> Thanks in Advance,
>
> Antonio

F8 KDE 3.5 Screen Saver:

Left click on the K Menu->Control_Center->Appearance_&_Themes->Screen_Saver

HTH

Keith Roberts


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From tarus at opennms.org  Wed Oct  8 11:51:17 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:51:17 -0400
Subject: XO Install Issue setting Boot Flag
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>
Message-ID: <35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>

Gang:

I'm finally ready to install the live CD image on my USB stick as  
mentioned here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/ 
Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card

but it complains that the partition is not marked as boot.

The media check is complete, the result is: PASS.

It is OK to use this media.
Partition isn't marked bootable!
You can mark the partition as bootable with
     # /sbin/parted /dev/sdb
     (parted) toggle N boot
     (parted) quit
Cleaning up to exit...

However, I can't seem to get it to work:

Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
(parted) print
Model: Unknown (unknown)
Disk /dev/sdb1: 4071MB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: loop

Number  Start  End     Size    File system  Flags
  1      0.00B  4071MB  4071MB  fat32

(parted) toggle 1 boot
Error: The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels.
(parted) quit

Clues?

-T

_______________________________________________________________________
Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
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From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  8 11:54:41 2008
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 12:54:41 +0100
Subject: Screen Blanking in KDE, no screensaver
In-Reply-To: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200810081254.48693.cannewilson@googlemail.com>

On Wednesday 08 October 2008 03:21:01 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
>
> I have a question regarding screen blanking in KDE.  When using GNOME, it
> is pretty simple, all we have to do is
>
> Systems ---> Preferences ---> Look and Feel ---> Screen Saver
>
> select Power Management and set the time for the screen to blank and we are
> done.  However, in KDE an equivalent option does not seem to be available. 
> IF there is one, could someone please share it.  I get automatic blanking
> of the screen on two of the three machines that I run rawhide on.  I am
> using KDE most of the time, but I also switch to GNOME once in a while. 
> Two of the three machines have an xorg.conf file, but one of them does not.
>  The two that have have an option "DPMS" in the xorg.conf file.  The one
> that does not have an xorg.conf file was installed from Fedora 10 Beta
> Install DVD.
>
Assuming that this is KDE 4,  SystemSettings > Desktop > ScreenSaver >Blank 
Screen > Setup and Test

Anne


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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  8 12:10:28 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 05:10:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Screen Blanking in KDE, no screensaver
In-Reply-To: <6dc6523c0810080234h342309efn2def313547e041a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <333308.7129.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- On Wed, 10/8/08, John5342 <john5342 at googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: John5342 <john5342 at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: Screen Blanking in KDE, no screensaver
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 2:34 AM
> Power management for displays in kde is in System Settings
> -> Display ->
> Power Control. and Screen saver is in System Settings ->
> Desktop -> Screen
> Saver. Dont use either of them myself but hope thats what
> your looking for.
> 

> > --

Thank you very much!  That was what I was looking for.  

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 13:00:26 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:00:26 -0400
Subject: XO Install Issue setting Boot Flag
In-Reply-To: <35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>
	<35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <1223470826.19673.0.camel@aglarond.local>

On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 07:51 -0400, Tarus Balog wrote:
> However, I can't seem to get it to work:

Run parted against /dev/sdb, not /dev/sdb1

Jeremy



From tarus at opennms.org  Wed Oct  8 13:06:06 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 09:06:06 -0400
Subject: XO Install Issue setting Boot Flag
In-Reply-To: <35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>
	<35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <7F64326D-4ABB-42B5-86AA-771A29DB6170@opennms.org>


On Oct 8, 2008, at 7:51 AM, Tarus Balog wrote:

> Error: The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels.

Fixed my own issue and updated the wiki.

-T

_______________________________________________________________________
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From clydekunkel7734 at cox.net  Wed Oct  8 13:28:41 2008
From: clydekunkel7734 at cox.net (Clyde E. Kunkel)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:28:41 -0400
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <48EBCCBE.3010001@hi.is>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>	<71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>	<48EA283F.405@cox.net>	<48EA2A14.609@hi.is>	<48EA85EC.9040100@redhat.com>	<48EBCBF4.5050800@cox.net>
	<48EBCCBE.3010001@hi.is>
Message-ID: <48ECB589.5000403@cox.net>

J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>> John Poelstra wrote:
>>> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson said the following on 10/06/2008 08:09 AM 
>>> Pacific Time:
>>>> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>>>>> Chida wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel 
>>>>>> <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net <mailto:clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to 
>>>>>> launch a
>>>>>>     desktop during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  
>>>>>> Dropping to
>>>>>>     a terminal and doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT 
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>     beta DVD) and creating an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver
>>>>>>     solves the problem.  I see several bzs that may be related to the
>>>>>>     ati problem but don't have any specific information except 
>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>>     the attached screen shot.  The graphics adapter is an RV630 
>>>>>> [Radeon
>>>>>>     HD 2600 Series] on an ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the same exact error.  I get a blank screen and then Fatal 
>>>>>> IO error 11.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a 780G chipset motherboard. What hardware are you on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardware described above.
>>>>>
>>>> Testers it's better to provide the url from smolt
>>>> rather than using verbal descriptions.. :)
>>>> ( su -c 'smoltSendProfile -a' )
>>>>
>>>> JBG...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Filing it in bugzilla also helps, particularly when people pile with 
>>> "me too" :)
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>> bz 466042
>>
> Add the kernel parameter nomodeset
> and see if that works for you.
> 
> JBG
> 

How do I switch from gdm to kdm or xdm for logon manager?  I am trying 
to see if the problem is with x or gdm.

-- 
---------------------------------
Regards,

Old Fart



From john5342 at googlemail.com  Wed Oct  8 13:47:48 2008
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 14:47:48 +0100
Subject: FC10 Beta ati driver fails at install
In-Reply-To: <48ECB589.5000403@cox.net>
References: <48EA1F30.5040501@cox.net>
	<71b7a9890810060749n71efae6cnc7de09632eb82902@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EA283F.405@cox.net> <48EA2A14.609@hi.is>
	<48EA85EC.9040100@redhat.com> <48EBCBF4.5050800@cox.net>
	<48EBCCBE.3010001@hi.is> <48ECB589.5000403@cox.net>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0810080647s36ae54f5y93d09ebad4d3f029@mail.gmail.com>

/etc/sysconfig/desktop should contain:

DISPLAYMANAGER=X

where:
X = "KDM" (kde)
X = "GNOME" (gdm)
X = "XDM" (xdm)
X = "WDM" (lord knows)

There may be others but those are the only ones listed in my /etc/X11/prefdm


2008/10/8 Clyde E. Kunkel <clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>

> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
>
>> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>>
>>> John Poelstra wrote:
>>>
>>>> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson said the following on 10/06/2008 08:09 AM Pacific
>>>> Time:
>>>>
>>>>> Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chida wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel <
>>>>>>> clydekunkel7734 at cox.net <mailto:clydekunkel7734 at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    As is the case in Rawhide, the FC10 Beta install fails to launch a
>>>>>>>    desktop during firstboot due to the ati driver problem.  Dropping
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>    a terminal and doing a yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd (NOT on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>    beta DVD) and creating an xorg.conf file with the radeonhd driver
>>>>>>>    solves the problem.  I see several bzs that may be related to the
>>>>>>>    ati problem but don't have any specific information except
>>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>>>    the attached screen shot.  The graphics adapter is an RV630
>>>>>>> [Radeon
>>>>>>>    HD 2600 Series] on an ASUS P5K-EWiFi mobo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the same exact error.  I get a blank screen and then Fatal IO
>>>>>>> error 11.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a 780G chipset motherboard. What hardware are you on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hardware described above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Testers it's better to provide the url from smolt
>>>>> rather than using verbal descriptions.. :)
>>>>> ( su -c 'smoltSendProfile -a' )
>>>>>
>>>>> JBG...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Filing it in bugzilla also helps, particularly when people pile with "me
>>>> too" :)
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>> bz 466042
>>>
>>>  Add the kernel parameter nomodeset
>> and see if that works for you.
>>
>> JBG
>>
>>
> How do I switch from gdm to kdm or xdm for logon manager?  I am trying to
> see if the problem is with x or gdm.
>
> --
> ---------------------------------
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>
> Old Fart
>
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From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 13:56:47 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:56:47 -0400
Subject: XO Install Issue setting Boot Flag
In-Reply-To: <7F64326D-4ABB-42B5-86AA-771A29DB6170@opennms.org>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>
	<35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>
	<7F64326D-4ABB-42B5-86AA-771A29DB6170@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <1223474207.14949.15.camel@flatline>

On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 09:06 -0400, Tarus Balog wrote:
> On Oct 8, 2008, at 7:51 AM, Tarus Balog wrote:
> 
> > Error: The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels.
> 
> Fixed my own issue and updated the wiki.

I've also added a link to the common errors wiki page.  If anything is
missing we can add the errors to that page
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Errors_and_Solutions).

Thanks,
James
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From jsherril at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 14:05:19 2008
From: jsherril at redhat.com (Justin Sherrill)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:05:19 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48ECBE1F.2020308@redhat.com>

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit,
> so let's all get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g
>
Received mine last night as well....

I am a software engineer working for Red Hat and work on
Spacewalk/Satellite.

-Justin



From tarus at opennms.org  Wed Oct  8 14:19:48 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:19:48 -0400
Subject: XO: Your system had a kernel failure
In-Reply-To: <1223474207.14949.15.camel@flatline>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>
	<35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>
	<7F64326D-4ABB-42B5-86AA-771A29DB6170@opennms.org>
	<1223474207.14949.15.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <7BCEBDBA-12B4-4A63-9A9C-9732650A423B@opennms.org>

Gang:

Not sure where the XO testing stuff should go, so I'll start prefixing  
any XO testing posts with "XO:".

Following the wiki, I can now boot to Fedora. However, once the GUI  
comes up I get a red bordered box in the lower right corner that says  
"Your system had a kernel failure". Is there any information I can  
gather before opening a bug?

-T

_______________________________________________________________________
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From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk  Wed Oct  8 14:11:10 2008
From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul F. Johnson)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:11:10 +0100
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48ECBE1F.2020308@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48ECBE1F.2020308@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081008141048.M48117@all-the-johnsons.co.uk>

Hi,
 
> I am a software engineer working for Red Hat

Lucky sod ;-)

TTFN

Paul
(not working)
--
It's only me, only me and no-one else.



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 14:32:26 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:32:26 -0400
Subject: XO: Your system had a kernel failure
In-Reply-To: <7BCEBDBA-12B4-4A63-9A9C-9732650A423B@opennms.org>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>
	<35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>
	<7F64326D-4ABB-42B5-86AA-771A29DB6170@opennms.org>
	<1223474207.14949.15.camel@flatline>
	<7BCEBDBA-12B4-4A63-9A9C-9732650A423B@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <1223476346.14949.17.camel@flatline>

On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 10:19 -0400, Tarus Balog wrote:
> Gang:
> 
> Not sure where the XO testing stuff should go, so I'll start prefixing  
> any XO testing posts with "XO:".
> 
> Following the wiki, I can now boot to Fedora. However, once the GUI  
> comes up I get a red bordered box in the lower right corner that says  
> "Your system had a kernel failure". Is there any information I can  
> gather before opening a bug?

Greetings,

See if you can press <ctrl><alt><neighborhood> to get to tty1.  Once
there, you can login as root (no passwd) and inspect /var/log/messages
or dmesg output.

Thanks,
James

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From bpowell01 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 14:33:11 2008
From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:33:11 -0400
Subject: XO: Boot / Power issues.
Message-ID: <96365e610810080733j6fca0b78se906e714fcf96483@mail.gmail.com>

I had some boot issues with the XO right out of the box and the unit
would power itself off sporadically after about a minute or so and I
was hoping a clean install would resolve it, however the XO keeps
powering down on it's own and it happened during the erase / install
process, now I think it is bricked as I get a blank screen when
powering it on, no button restore options work and after about 20
seconds of being turned on the battery light blinks red.

Do I need to RMA this or does anyone have any other suggestions.

-- 
Regards,

BrianPowell
http://fedoraproject.org



From gdk at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 14:48:31 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:48:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO: Boot / Power issues.
In-Reply-To: <96365e610810080733j6fca0b78se906e714fcf96483@mail.gmail.com>
References: <96365e610810080733j6fca0b78se906e714fcf96483@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810081048220.28177@localhost.localdomain>


I will get an answer for you, Brian.

--g

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008, Brian Powell wrote:

> I had some boot issues with the XO right out of the box and the unit
> would power itself off sporadically after about a minute or so and I
> was hoping a clean install would resolve it, however the XO keeps
> powering down on it's own and it happened during the erase / install
> process, now I think it is bricked as I get a blank screen when
> powering it on, no button restore options work and after about 20
> seconds of being turned on the battery light blinks red.
>
> Do I need to RMA this or does anyone have any other suggestions.
>
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> BrianPowell
> http://fedoraproject.org
>
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From bpowell01 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 14:56:12 2008
From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:56:12 -0400
Subject: XO: Boot / Power issues.
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810081048220.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <96365e610810080733j6fca0b78se906e714fcf96483@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810081048220.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <96365e610810080756i1f7a354cp4cd12c30fd137961@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> I will get an answer for you, Brian.
>
> --g
>
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008, Brian Powell wrote:
>
>> I had some boot issues with the XO right out of the box and the unit
>> would power itself off sporadically after about a minute or so and I
>> was hoping a clean install would resolve it, however the XO keeps
>> powering down on it's own and it happened during the erase / install
>> process, now I think it is bricked as I get a blank screen when
>> powering it on, no button restore options work and after about 20
>> seconds of being turned on the battery light blinks red.
>>
>> Do I need to RMA this or does anyone have any other suggestions.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> BrianPowell
>> http://fedoraproject.org
>>
>> --
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>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
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>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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Thank you Greg.

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http://fedoraproject.org



From tarus at opennms.org  Wed Oct  8 14:58:41 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:58:41 -0400
Subject: XO: Your system had a kernel failure
In-Reply-To: <1223476346.14949.17.camel@flatline>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>
	<35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>
	<7F64326D-4ABB-42B5-86AA-771A29DB6170@opennms.org>
	<1223474207.14949.15.camel@flatline>
	<7BCEBDBA-12B4-4A63-9A9C-9732650A423B@opennms.org>
	<1223476346.14949.17.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <A772B7C2-4A8A-4AD6-A40A-024D1A8145F1@opennms.org>


On Oct 8, 2008, at 10:32 AM, James Laska wrote:

> See if you can press <ctrl><alt><neighborhood> to get to tty1.  Once
> there, you can login as root (no passwd) and inspect /var/log/messages
> or dmesg output.


Will do. I'm at a client site at the moment (they liked the XO) but  
will be "on duty" tonight and I'll gather the info and open a bug.

-T
_______________________________________________________________________
Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
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From stuart at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 15:02:11 2008
From: stuart at redhat.com (Stuart R. Kirk)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:02:11 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48ECCB73.8070806@redhat.com>

So sorry my e-mail last evening was so terse; I now have coffee in me. :)

According to my wife, the XO arrived on Monday however since I'm out of
town for work, I wont get my hands on it until this weekend.  As such,
I've adjusted my testing times accordingly. 

As for me, I've worked with Red Hat products since RHL 5.1 in the 90's. 
I now work for RH as a Consultant in the Professional Services group
which means I travel pretty much everywhere working for our different
end-user customers.  I'm thrilled to be able to assist with such a new
undertaking and look forward to contributing comments on this effort. 
After I'm done, the XO will be going to my God son Will, who is 5 years
old, and - apparently - is already getting "made fun of" at school for
not having his own laptop already.

And I thought I wasn't cool because I didn't collect hockey cards.   How
things have changed.  Sheesh.

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit,
> so let's all get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g
>

-- 
Cheers,

Stuart

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From gdk at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 15:03:54 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 11:03:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48ECCB73.8070806@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48ECCB73.8070806@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810081103010.28177@localhost.localdomain>


On Wed, 8 Oct 2008, Stuart R. Kirk wrote:

> So sorry my e-mail last evening was so terse; I now have coffee in me. :)
>
> According to my wife, the XO arrived on Monday however since I'm out of
> town for work, I wont get my hands on it until this weekend.  As such,
> I've adjusted my testing times accordingly.
>
> As for me, I've worked with Red Hat products since RHL 5.1 in the 90's.
> I now work for RH as a Consultant in the Professional Services group
> which means I travel pretty much everywhere working for our different
> end-user customers.  I'm thrilled to be able to assist with such a new
> undertaking and look forward to contributing comments on this effort.
> After I'm done, the XO will be going to my God son Will, who is 5 years
> old, and - apparently - is already getting "made fun of" at school for
> not having his own laptop already.
>
> And I thought I wasn't cool because I didn't collect hockey cards.   How
> things have changed.  Sheesh.

You don't collect hockey cards?  What are you, some kind of freak? 
Hurricanes season opener on Friday -- I'll bring you a pack of cards if 
you like.  ;)

--g



From tyf at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 15:29:02 2008
From: tyf at redhat.com (Ty)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:29:02 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1223479742.3138.23.camel@tao>

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 12:39 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
> let's all get to know each other.

hi, 

my XO came in yesterday. its a beautiful little machine. i updated it
and requested a developer key last night. 

i live in Durham and work in marketing at Red Hat. i studied computer
science in college after getting started on Linux with Red Hat Linux 9.0
and then Fedora Core 2, 3, 4... 

im very excited to get involved in Fedora and OLPC. its nice to meet
everyone :) 

Ty 

> 
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
> 
> --g
> 
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????? ???? (nothing in excess) 
? 



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 16:10:04 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:10:04 +0300
Subject: XO: Your system had a kernel failure
In-Reply-To: <7BCEBDBA-12B4-4A63-9A9C-9732650A423B@opennms.org>
References: <744666.18804.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810081220220.22504@www.karsites.net>
	<35AF1782-B701-4AC5-9355-E1B68955AFC3@opennms.org>
	<7F64326D-4ABB-42B5-86AA-771A29DB6170@opennms.org>
	<1223474207.14949.15.camel@flatline>
	<7BCEBDBA-12B4-4A63-9A9C-9732650A423B@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810080910w5d669a9fv47da906ccc458888@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/8 Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org>

> Gang:
>
> Not sure where the XO testing stuff should go, so I'll start prefixing any
> XO testing posts with "XO:".
>
> Following the wiki, I can now boot to Fedora. However, once the GUI comes
> up I get a red bordered box in the lower right corner that says "Your system
> had a kernel failure". Is there any information I can gather before opening
> a bug?


i've seen this a lot on __very old__ fujitsu notebook (f9), and once on my
not that old thinkpad x40 notebook (f9).
maybe the fujitsu still produces this message but unfortunately after some
updates x only blanks the screen, locks video card.

>
>
> -T
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
> The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
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From mcepl at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 16:34:38 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:34:38 +0200
Subject: Fw: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-07, 22:26 GMT, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> F10 doesn't ship with an xorg.conf and it seems that
>> the input hotplug 
>> facility now handles all of this.  However, I can't
>> find any way to 
>> tweak the parameters of my Synaptics pad.

Read the mother of all Synaptics bugs 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439386 (especially 
around comment 87).

Mat?j



From mackay_d at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  8 17:58:58 2008
From: mackay_d at bellsouth.net (David G. Mackay)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:58:58 -0500
Subject: F10 Beta static ip
Message-ID: <1223488739.5412.7.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>

I just attempted to install F10 Beta.  Anaconda dies when it tries to
get a dhcp address for nic.  I was trying to install with a static IP
address.  Is there any way to do this, or must I use dhcp during a cdrom
install?

Dave




From jweiss at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 18:09:32 2008
From: jweiss at redhat.com (Jeff Weiss)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:09:32 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48ECF75C.3060308@redhat.com>

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so
> let's all get to know each other.
> 
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
> 
> --g
> 

I got mine today.  Got my sandisk card ready, off I go to load it up and
start testing!

Thanks Greg!

Jeff



From AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl  Wed Oct  8 18:08:35 2008
From: AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl (A.J. Werkman)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:08:35 +0200
Subject: F10 Beta static ip
In-Reply-To: <1223488739.5412.7.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>
References: <1223488739.5412.7.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>
Message-ID: <48ECF723.5050204@digifarma.nl>

F10 beta has problems that relate to the fact that NetworkManager is 
used to configure nics during installation. But NetworkManager does not 
understand IPv6 at this time. Although not completely done, things are 
already being changed in a more recent anaconda build in rawhide.

Try to desable IPv6 in the configuration screens and use DHCP, then 
things should work. As soon as you try static IP configuration anaconda 
likes to crash.

Regards, Koos.

David G. Mackay schreef:
> I just attempted to install F10 Beta.  Anaconda dies when it tries to
> get a dhcp address for nic.  I was trying to install with a static IP
> address.  Is there any way to do this, or must I use dhcp during a cdrom
> install?
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 20:22:09 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:22:09 -0400
Subject: 2008-08-09 - Fedora Test Day - F10 Beta and GlitchFreeAudio
	(pulseaudio)
Message-ID: <1223497329.20394.8.camel@flatline>

Greetings folks,

I'd like to invite testers and users to join #fedora-qa this Thursday,
October 9, 2008.  Testing efforts will focus on gathering Fedora 10 Beta
feedback and exercising GlitchFreeAudio (aka pulseaudio).

Come with questions, bug reports, and/or suggested test areas.

More details will be posted to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-09.

Additionally, bring your XO running Fedora
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO) and share
your findings/pain_points.

See you there,
James
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 20:44:46 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:44:46 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
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2008/10/8 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org>:
> Antonio M wrote:
>>
>> Just to fix it, in one case (where it is present) I installed Gimp 2.6
>> and at same time I disinstalled Gimp 2.4 by yumex..
>> Where it is not present, I disinstalled first Gimp 2.4 and then I
>> installed Gimp 2.6.
>> Any help??
>> I planning to remove tonight completely Gimp 2.6 and reinstall
>> it...let's if it fixes the issue.
>
> what does 'rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop' return ?
>
> and 'rpm -V gimp' ?
>
> You can also run "update-desktop-database" as root.
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

[antonio at Casa ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
[antonio at Casa ~]$ rpm -V gimp
[antonio at Casa ~]$

 update-desktop-database
Could not parse file
'/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
directory

Still missing the menu...

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From jamundso at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 21:06:27 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:06:27 -0500
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
> [antonio at Casa ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
> gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
> [antonio at Casa ~]$ rpm -V gimp
> [antonio at Casa ~]$
>
>  update-desktop-database
> Could not parse file
> '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
> directory
>
> Still missing the menu...

How about for another user with a fresh $HOME?

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 21:07:37 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:07:37 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com>

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
> let's all get to know each other.
> 
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
> 
> --g
> 

My key just came in. I have to say.. nice hotdog!

-- bk



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 21:11:08 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:11:08 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de> <48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/8 Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>> [antonio at Casa ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
>> gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
>> [antonio at Casa ~]$ rpm -V gimp
>> [antonio at Casa ~]$
>>
>>  update-desktop-database
>> Could not parse file
>> '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
>> directory
>>
>> Still missing the menu...
>
> How about for another user with a fresh $HOME?
>
> jerry
>
> --
> There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

that is a good point....I created another user, and  he has the Gimp
in the menu...what shall I do???

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From tarus at opennms.org  Wed Oct  8 21:46:07 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:46:07 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>

Gang:

I'm curious how everyone else is getting on. I followed the FAQ:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/ 
Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card

and was able to get the XO to boot into Fedora (cute hotdog). But then  
I get a kernel warning on the Desktop:

http://www.opennms.org/XO/XO-KernelFail.jpg

Looking through /var/log/messages I don't see anything real useful -  
no panics or errors that stand out. The load is very high, with a 15  
minute load average near 8.

I was curious if anyone else had managed to get things going a bit  
better, and if I needed to be using a different image, etc.

-T

P.S. 4GB SanDisk card if that matters
_______________________________________________________________________
Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C



From tarus at opennms.org  Wed Oct  8 21:49:09 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:49:09 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de> <48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
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	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
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	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <4C6C8A32-F1FE-4132-A099-F800B7FF086E@opennms.org>


On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:

> The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.


Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most  
of the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.

-T
_______________________________________________________________________
Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C



From denis at poolshark.org  Wed Oct  8 22:15:29 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:15:29 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
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	<48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48ED3101.2000100@poolshark.org>

Antonio M wrote:
>  update-desktop-database
> Could not parse file
> '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
> directory

Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source 
third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF 
files just fine too.



From jkeating at j2solutions.net  Wed Oct  8 22:20:49 2008
From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:20:49 -0700
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <48ED3101.2000100@poolshark.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de> <48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<48ED3101.2000100@poolshark.org>
Message-ID: <1223504449.4410.86.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> Antonio M wrote:
> >  update-desktop-database
> > Could not parse file
> > '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
> > directory
> 
> Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source 
> third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF 
> files just fine too.

Why should that prevent the rest of his menu items from showing up?

-- 
Jesse Keating RHCE      (http://jkeating.livejournal.com)
Fedora Project          (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating)
GPG Public Key          (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub)
identi.ca               (http://identi.ca/jkeating)
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From jkeating at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 22:22:36 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:22:36 -0700
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
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On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> 
> Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source 
> third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF 
> files just fine too.

Also, lets watch the attitude a bit here.  We're all trying to help each
other, lets be nice.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed Oct  8 22:27:03 2008
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:27:03 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:34:38 +0200
Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com> wrote:

> Read the mother of all Synaptics bugs 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439386 (especially 
> around comment 87).

So, X has achieved the holy grail of no config file by moving
all the config files to a far more obscure place and changing
them to undocumented xml gibberish?

I swear there are the makings out there of an abnormal psychology
text titled "The Mind of the Linux Developer" :-). [Good lord!
People are finding solutions to their problems by doing simple google
searches! Quick, we must change everything so all the google hits
will be out of date! BU-WA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!]

Is this the same sort of thing I'll need to do to officially
configure draglock on my trackball using evdev? Right now, I disable evdev
in the xorg.conf file and use the old input section to do it
(because I was able to discover how to do that).



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 22:12:12 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:12:12 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810081512s195eb63etec83c06abdfde304@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a brief
> intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so let's all
> get to know each other.
>

Mine came today. Stopped on the way home to buy the SD card -- of
three different stores I could only find 4G Extreme III SD(HC)s, so
that's what I have. I hope my universal reader is good enough for
it---

I've been a Unix developer for 20 years or so, mostly userland stuff,
but some kernel. I've been using Linux for about 15 years or so,
eleven as one flavor of *nix among the many I was using, and the last
four pretty much  exclusively for my day job.

/Blake



From denis at poolshark.org  Wed Oct  8 22:28:21 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:28:21 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <1223504556.4410.87.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>	<390328ce0810071003u24b247bagcf34fa90933cf7c9@mail.gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810071009u7febf399h3bafa21e36ea5bf3@mail.gmail.com>	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de>
	<48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>	<48ED3101.2000100@poolshark.org>
	<1223504556.4410.87.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48ED3405.1070201@poolshark.org>

Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
>> Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source 
>> third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF 
>> files just fine too.
> 
> Also, lets watch the attitude a bit here.  We're all trying to help each
> other, lets be nice.

Got carried away here, sorry.



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 23:47:07 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:47:07 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing
In-Reply-To: <48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>

Some things:

On bootup, I get:

Module sr_mod not found.
MOdule loop not found.

Do I need a new image for that?

I also see :
sdchi-pci 0000:00:0c.1: Invalid iomem size
Unable to fine persistent overlay: using temporary


Did I hork the setup steps?

--bk




From jonstanley at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 00:00:02 2008
From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 20:00:02 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing
In-Reply-To: <48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com> <48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <da159fda0810081700h3905d9e0x724cf89487aee127@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:
> Some things:
>
> On bootup, I get:
>
> Module sr_mod not found.
> MOdule loop not found.
>
> Do I need a new image for that?

These are kernel modules - sr_mod is for accessing SCSI disks
(probably don't need it), but loop is for using loopback block
devices, which, in my limited understanding of LiveCD innards, is how
the overlay actually works - Jeremy?

Either way, these were probably excluded from the kernel.

> I also see :
> sdchi-pci 0000:00:0c.1: Invalid iomem size
> Unable to fine persistent overlay: using temporary

This is one of the items that Jeremy has mentioned in items to try in
http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html is to actually create a
persistent overlay.  The temporary overlay takes memory, which is
obviously at a premium on the XO.



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct  8 23:59:02 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:59:02 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing
In-Reply-To: <da159fda0810081700h3905d9e0x724cf89487aee127@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com>
	<48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>
	<da159fda0810081700h3905d9e0x724cf89487aee127@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48ED4946.5040509@redhat.com>

Jon Stanley wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:
>> Some things:
>>
>> On bootup, I get:
>>
>> Module sr_mod not found.
>> MOdule loop not found.
>>
>> Do I need a new image for that?
> 
> These are kernel modules - sr_mod is for accessing SCSI disks
> (probably don't need it), but loop is for using loopback block
> devices, which, in my limited understanding of LiveCD innards, is how
> the overlay actually works - Jeremy?

On the livecd list, this error required a rebuild about 2 days ago. 
Given the age of hte image.. i was curious if it should be respun

> 
> Either way, these were probably excluded from the kernel.
> 
>> I also see :
>> sdchi-pci 0000:00:0c.1: Invalid iomem size
>> Unable to fine persistent overlay: using temporary
> 
> This is one of the items that Jeremy has mentioned in items to try in
> http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html is to actually create a
> persistent overlay.  The temporary overlay takes memory, which is
> obviously at a premium on the XO.


Trying it now.

-- bk




From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 00:17:22 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:17:22 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing
In-Reply-To: <48ED4946.5040509@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com>	<48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>	<da159fda0810081700h3905d9e0x724cf89487aee127@mail.gmail.com>
	<48ED4946.5040509@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48ED4D92.1070404@redhat.com>

Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Jon Stanley wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney at redhat.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Some things:
>>>
>>> On bootup, I get:
>>>
>>> Module sr_mod not found.
>>> MOdule loop not found.
>>>
>>> Do I need a new image for that?
>>
>> These are kernel modules - sr_mod is for accessing SCSI disks
>> (probably don't need it), but loop is for using loopback block
>> devices, which, in my limited understanding of LiveCD innards, is how
>> the overlay actually works - Jeremy?
> 
> On the livecd list, this error required a rebuild about 2 days ago. 
> Given the age of hte image.. i was curious if it should be respun
> 
>>
>> Either way, these were probably excluded from the kernel.
>>
>>> I also see :
>>> sdchi-pci 0000:00:0c.1: Invalid iomem size
>>> Unable to fine persistent overlay: using temporary
>>
>> This is one of the items that Jeremy has mentioned in items to try in
>> http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html is to actually create a
>> persistent overlay.  The temporary overlay takes memory, which is
>> obviously at a premium on the XO.
> 
> 
> Trying it now.


I apologize for the stupid questions. I got this when re-doind the SD 
Media with the overlay.

http://www.pastie.org/288292

Is this a problem?

-- bk




From niftyfedora at niftyegg.com  Thu Oct  9 00:23:21 2008
From: niftyfedora at niftyegg.com (NiftyFedora Mitch)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:23:21 -0700
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <96365e610810072024qadb9474pbf4d823668a3b3f8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<96365e610810071800n1719e313n5c46d5314987de82@mail.gmail.com>
	<96365e610810072024qadb9474pbf4d823668a3b3f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1cd4f41f0810081723w60a9d14u5ad229e3fea0b694@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Brian Powell <bpowell01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Finally got a chance to get some time on the XO and as delivered the
> unit would not boot properly and it kept powering itself off. So I
> followed the steps of a clean install and it began going through the
> erase process but only got about 5 lines of blocks (green) before the
> unit shut itself down again when it rebooted I get nothing but a blank
> screen and now the battery light blinking red.
>
>
> Any suggestions?

Blinking red is supposed to be a low battery indicator.

Fully power off the XO by holding the power button about 10 seconds...
Reinstall the battery on the chance that the battery contacts are not
exactly so.

Charge the battery for 90 min with the green wall wart without
powering the XO on.

Boot the XO while powered on....  the escape key (upper left) and other
key codes may be verbose enough to help:

    http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Cheat_codes

With luck the update that apparently failed built the alternate boot
(Game pad 'O') and you can
get things back.

If the software install fell flat in the middle (after the erase and prior to
a sane state) you may need to build and boot from a USB key.

Updates need a fully charged battery and wall power for safety from
interruption.

-- 
        NiftyFedora
        T o m   M i t c h e l l



From lmacken at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 01:20:32 2008
From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 21:20:32 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081009012005.GB4381@x300>

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:39:39PM -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can  
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a  
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so  
> let's all get to know each other.

I just got mine in today!  
Got the SD card, and I'm currently waiting on the developer key.

As for an intro, I'm a Software Engineer at Red Hat and I spend my days
working on Fedora.  I'm on the Infrastructure Team, Security Team,
Release Engineering Team, Scholarship Selection Committee, and I hack on
a variety of projects, such as bodhi, liveusb-creator, python-fedora,
TurboGears, func, PackageKit, yum, myfedora.

I look forward to helping out in any way that I can!

Cheers,

luke



From katzj at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 02:33:30 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:33:30 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing
In-Reply-To: <da159fda0810081700h3905d9e0x724cf89487aee127@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com> <48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>
	<da159fda0810081700h3905d9e0x724cf89487aee127@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223519610.19673.143.camel@aglarond.local>

On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 20:00 -0400, Jon Stanley wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:
> > Some things:
> >
> > On bootup, I get:
> >
> > Module sr_mod not found.
> > MOdule loop not found.
> >
> > Do I need a new image for that?
> 
> These are kernel modules - sr_mod is for accessing SCSI disks
> (probably don't need it), but loop is for using loopback block
> devices, which, in my limited understanding of LiveCD innards, is how
> the overlay actually works - Jeremy?
> 
> Either way, these were probably excluded from the kernel.

They're built-in now, rather than modules.  Future initrds will probably
be dropping the message to /dev/null

Jeremy



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 02:49:44 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher Desjardins)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 21:49:44 -0500
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <4C6C8A32-F1FE-4132-A099-F800B7FF086E@opennms.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<4C6C8A32-F1FE-4132-A099-F800B7FF086E@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <b968b9650810081949p99ed0tce3f92df28fa657e@mail.gmail.com>

I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.

What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
doing?

C

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:

>
> On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
>
>  The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
>>
>
>
> Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of the
> CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
>
> -T
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
> The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
> Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
> PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C
>
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From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 02:51:29 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher Desjardins)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 21:51:29 -0500
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <b968b9650810081949p99ed0tce3f92df28fa657e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<4C6C8A32-F1FE-4132-A099-F800B7FF086E@opennms.org>
	<b968b9650810081949p99ed0tce3f92df28fa657e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b968b9650810081951y64e69e12nbd3312c8030888e0@mail.gmail.com>

One other thing .. might I suggest opensuse's main menu or the gnome menu
(that resembles windows 95) for the default menu as it takes up much less
space.

My fonts are also getting slightly cut off too.
Cheers,
C

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
cddesjardins at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
> are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
> quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
> GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
>
> What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
> doing?
>
> C
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
>>
>>  The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
>> the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
>>
>> -T
>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>> Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
>> The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
>> Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
>> PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C
>>
>> --
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>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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From dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com  Thu Oct  9 02:56:00 2008
From: dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com (dave yates)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:56:00 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <b968b9650810081949p99ed0tce3f92df28fa657e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<4C6C8A32-F1FE-4132-A099-F800B7FF086E@opennms.org>
	<b968b9650810081949p99ed0tce3f92df28fa657e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db34c1810810081956l33055375g16678b387643c0dc@mail.gmail.com>

I too got the kernel opps message; only once in about 10 sessions though.
The fonts are big here as well. I have also had, in about 2 of 10 sessions,
gnome lock up completely. It's been sort of hit or miss for me. I have been
able to successfully start a gnome session most of the time, but in general
the gnome desktop is unstable. I was able to get network manager to find my
wifi, but the whole desktop locked up after trying to launch firefox.


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
cddesjardins at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
> are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
> quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
> GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
>
> What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
> doing?
>
> C
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
>>
>>  The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
>> the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
>>
>> -T
>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>> Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
>> The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
>> Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
>> PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C
>>
>> --
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>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
>
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From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 03:01:42 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher Desjardins)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:01:42 -0500
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <db34c1810810081956l33055375g16678b387643c0dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<4C6C8A32-F1FE-4132-A099-F800B7FF086E@opennms.org>
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	<db34c1810810081956l33055375g16678b387643c0dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b968b9650810082001i6bf63665t850b684a464a4ab9@mail.gmail.com>

That's been my experience too.  I've been able to connect to wifi with
nm-applet (unsecured network) no problem but i figured i'd install irssi to
to go to #fedora-qa except that yum install irssi has seemed to kill this
machine.  the only application that i've been able to manually launch has
been gnome-terminal.

by the way, are you fonts cut off partially?


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:56 PM, dave yates <dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com>wrote:

> I too got the kernel opps message; only once in about 10 sessions though.
> The fonts are big here as well. I have also had, in about 2 of 10 sessions,
> gnome lock up completely. It's been sort of hit or miss for me. I have been
> able to successfully start a gnome session most of the time, but in general
> the gnome desktop is unstable. I was able to get network manager to find my
> wifi, but the whole desktop locked up after trying to launch firefox.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
> cddesjardins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
>> are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
>> quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
>> GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
>>
>> What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
>> doing?
>>
>> C
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
>>>
>>>  The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
>>> the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
>>>
>>> -T
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>> Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
>>> The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
>>> Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
>>> PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C
>>>
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From tarus at opennms.org  Thu Oct  9 03:05:03 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:05:03 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <b968b9650810081949p99ed0tce3f92df28fa657e@mail.gmail.com>
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On Oct 8, 2008, at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins wrote:

> I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my  
> fonts are enormous

+1 on big fonts. I could never get System -> Appearance to ever come  
up to try and change them. My 15 minute load starts out at 8 and  
steadily climbs, with "loop3" being the culprit, whatever that is.

-T

_______________________________________________________________________
Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
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From dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com  Thu Oct  9 03:05:21 2008
From: dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com (dave yates)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:05:21 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <b968b9650810082001i6bf63665t850b684a464a4ab9@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes, my fonts are cut off partially.


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
cddesjardins at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's been my experience too.  I've been able to connect to wifi with
> nm-applet (unsecured network) no problem but i figured i'd install irssi to
> to go to #fedora-qa except that yum install irssi has seemed to kill this
> machine.  the only application that i've been able to manually launch has
> been gnome-terminal.
>
> by the way, are you fonts cut off partially?
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:56 PM, dave yates <dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com>wrote:
>
>> I too got the kernel opps message; only once in about 10 sessions though.
>> The fonts are big here as well. I have also had, in about 2 of 10 sessions,
>> gnome lock up completely. It's been sort of hit or miss for me. I have been
>> able to successfully start a gnome session most of the time, but in general
>> the gnome desktop is unstable. I was able to get network manager to find my
>> wifi, but the whole desktop locked up after trying to launch firefox.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
>> cddesjardins at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
>>> are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
>>> quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
>>> GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
>>>
>>> What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
>>> doing?
>>>
>>> C
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
>>>> the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
>>>>
>>>> -T
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>>> Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
>>>> The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
>>>> Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
>>>> PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C
>>>>
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>>
>>
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From david at gnsa.us  Thu Oct  9 03:12:53 2008
From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:12:53 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <db34c1810810082005n47758e64l4c39ac64575ee8d4@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:05 PM, dave yates <dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com> wrote:
> Yes, my fonts are cut off partially.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Christopher Desjardins
> <cddesjardins at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's been my experience too.  I've been able to connect to wifi with
>> nm-applet (unsecured network) no problem but i figured i'd install irssi to
>> to go to #fedora-qa except that yum install irssi has seemed to kill this
>> machine.  the only application that i've been able to manually launch has
>> been gnome-terminal.
>>
>> by the way, are you fonts cut off partially?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:56 PM, dave yates <dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I too got the kernel opps message; only once in about 10 sessions though.
>>> The fonts are big here as well. I have also had, in about 2 of 10 sessions,
>>> gnome lock up completely. It's been sort of hit or miss for me. I have been
>>> able to successfully start a gnome session most of the time, but in general
>>> the gnome desktop is unstable. I was able to get network manager to find my
>>> wifi, but the whole desktop locked up after trying to launch firefox.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins
>>> <cddesjardins at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my
>>>> fonts are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME
>>>> is quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
>>>> GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
>>>>
>>>> What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
>>>> doing?
>>>>
>>>> C
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
>>>>> the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
>>>>>
>>>>> -T
>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
>>>>> The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
>>>>> Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
>>>>> PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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Cutoff fonts are something that recently appeared and weren't in the
20080828 build Jeremy posted.
The current build we are installing tends to lock the machine up
pretty regularly, while the 20080828 build did not, though I don't
know what changed between the builds.
The kernel oops appeared everytime I booted the most recent build that
was posted.



From xy.ziemba at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 03:30:21 2008
From: xy.ziemba at gmail.com (Xavier Ziemba)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:30:21 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know! (Xavier Ziemba)
Message-ID: <ea03f0540810082030wc68257ey2c760e2e55e40fb8@mail.gmail.com>

Received today!

I'm an engineering student at Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering
and part of the OLPC college chapter there.

-Xy

> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:39:39 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com>
> Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>        <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177 at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so
> let's all get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g



From adrian at weelife.com  Thu Oct  9 04:21:53 2008
From: adrian at weelife.com (Adrian Mandy)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 21:21:53 -0700
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <98be106d0810082121qd054f77la59ba83b4cd4bdfb@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everbody, I haven't gotten mine yet (shipping to Canada so it has to go
by dog sled and sasquatch) but I have a borrowed XO that already has a
devkey and my sd card, so I'm ready to start testing! I've been working and
playing with computers for almost 30 years about half of those years with
linux. I live in Vancouver and work in the IT department for a large law
firm. I have a beautiful wife and a four year old son who is very anxious to
help me test.

See you in #fedora-qa!

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From Victoria.Hsiao at students.olin.edu  Thu Oct  9 04:56:12 2008
From: Victoria.Hsiao at students.olin.edu (Victoria Hsiao)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 00:56:12 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <DA80C3E6C10BE94E8FCACEB239C2FEE444CFB6CD78@EXVS01.olin.edu>

Hi,

I received my XO today! I'm also a student at Olin College. I have my SD card, but I'm waiting for the dev key. I'm familiar with linux and I use Ubuntu somewhat regularly but my experience doesn't go much deeper than that, so you'll have to pardon any beginner questions that I'm sure I'll have.

-Victoria

-----Original Message-----
From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dekoenigsberg
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:40 PM
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!


Hi folks.

As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a
brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so
let's all get to know each other.

A reminder on getting started: see...

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO

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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 04:56:59 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 06:56:59 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <1223504449.4410.86.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EBFC85.3020109@conversis.de> <48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
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2008/10/9 Jesse Keating <jkeating at j2solutions.net>:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
>> Antonio M wrote:
>> >  update-desktop-database
>> > Could not parse file
>> > '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
>> > directory
>>
>> Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source
>> third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF
>> files just fine too.
>
> Why should that prevent the rest of his menu items from showing up?
>
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1) I don't think to have waisted anybody's time, and I don't think
Jesus is involved in IT!!! :-)
2) the point is: on another two systems I am running same software
(Adobe Reader) menus are fine
3) a curiosity, how do I recover from having a dead symlink in
update-desktop-database???
4) Of course, I can add manually the item but this doesn't help to
check testing F10


Tnx all
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From adrian at weelife.com  Thu Oct  9 05:31:25 2008
From: adrian at weelife.com (Adrian Mandy)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:31:25 -0700
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:

> Gang:
>
> I'm curious how everyone else is getting on. I followed the FAQ:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/
> Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card
>
> and was able to get the XO to boot into Fedora (cute hotdog). But then I
> get a kernel warning on the Desktop:
>
> http://www.opennms.org/XO/XO-KernelFail.jpg
>
> Looking through /var/log/messages I don't see anything real useful - no
> panics or errors that stand out. The load is very high, with a 15 minute
> load average near 8.
>
> I was curious if anyone else had managed to get things going a bit better,
> and if I needed to be using a different image, etc.
>

I was having similar issues. I added the persistent overlay and a swap
partition and that helped a lot. It would lock up before and now it is
slightly more usable. When I run top it reports about 85% idle on the cpu.
The tips here
http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html
helped but didn't quite work I had to look here
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Errors_and_Solutions
to get it all working.

I'm going to try launching firefox now!

-- 
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From adrian at weelife.com  Thu Oct  9 05:45:04 2008
From: adrian at weelife.com (Adrian Mandy)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:45:04 -0700
Subject: Bad fonts using Fedora on XO
Message-ID: <98be106d0810082245v39e7ea6fu87e7816172503a6f@mail.gmail.com>

A Temporary fix for the bad fonts, in System->Preferences->Look and
Feel->Appearance->Fonts tab choose subpixel smoothing. All the fonts look
normal now.

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From tony.molloy at ul.ie  Thu Oct  9 07:05:46 2008
From: tony.molloy at ul.ie (Tony Molloy)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:05:46 +0100
Subject: F10 Beta static ip
In-Reply-To: <48ECF723.5050204@digifarma.nl>
References: <1223488739.5412.7.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>
	<48ECF723.5050204@digifarma.nl>
Message-ID: <200810090805.46562.tony.molloy@ul.ie>

On Wednesday 08 October 2008 19:08:35 A.J. Werkman wrote:
> F10 beta has problems that relate to the fact that NetworkManager is
> used to configure nics during installation. But NetworkManager does not
> understand IPv6 at this time. Although not completely done, things are
> already being changed in a more recent anaconda build in rawhide.
>
> Try to desable IPv6 in the configuration screens and use DHCP, then
> things should work. As soon as you try static IP configuration anaconda
> likes to crash.
>
> Regards, Koos.

I have had similar problems to the OP installing F10. What can you do, if 
anything, when you want to do an NFS install and you don't have a dhcp 
server. We use static IPv4 addresses.

Thanks,

Tony

>
> David G. Mackay schreef:
> > I just attempted to install F10 Beta.  Anaconda dies when it tries to
> > get a dhcp address for nic.  I was trying to install with a static IP
> > address.  Is there any way to do this, or must I use dhcp during a cdrom
> > install?
> >
> > Dave




From AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl  Thu Oct  9 07:50:49 2008
From: AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl (A.J. Werkman)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:50:49 +0200
Subject: F10 Beta static ip
In-Reply-To: <200810090805.46562.tony.molloy@ul.ie>
References: <1223488739.5412.7.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>	<48ECF723.5050204@digifarma.nl>
	<200810090805.46562.tony.molloy@ul.ie>
Message-ID: <48EDB7D9.3040308@digifarma.nl>



Tony Molloy schreef:
> On Wednesday 08 October 2008 19:08:35 A.J. Werkman wrote:
>> F10 beta has problems that relate to the fact that NetworkManager is
>> used to configure nics during installation. But NetworkManager does not
>> understand IPv6 at this time. Although not completely done, things are
>> already being changed in a more recent anaconda build in rawhide.
>>
>> Try to desable IPv6 in the configuration screens and use DHCP, then
>> things should work. As soon as you try static IP configuration anaconda
>> likes to crash.
>>
>> Regards, Koos.
> 
> I have had similar problems to the OP installing F10. What can you do, if 
> anything, when you want to do an NFS install and you don't have a dhcp 
> server. We use static IPv4 addresses.

I think with the F10 beta you have a problem installing over a network.
If you want to install beta, burn a DVD. If that is not an option, try 
to install from rawhide. Already a lot of problems are already solved there.

Koos.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony
> 
>> David G. Mackay schreef:
>>> I just attempted to install F10 Beta.  Anaconda dies when it tries to
>>> get a dhcp address for nic.  I was trying to install with a static IP
>>> address.  Is there any way to do this, or must I use dhcp during a cdrom
>>> install?
>>>
>>> Dave
> 
> 
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From tony.molloy at ul.ie  Thu Oct  9 07:56:03 2008
From: tony.molloy at ul.ie (Tony Molloy)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:56:03 +0100
Subject: F10 Beta static ip
In-Reply-To: <48EDB7D9.3040308@digifarma.nl>
References: <1223488739.5412.7.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>
	<200810090805.46562.tony.molloy@ul.ie>
	<48EDB7D9.3040308@digifarma.nl>
Message-ID: <200810090856.03475.tony.molloy@ul.ie>

On Thursday 09 October 2008 08:50:49 A.J. Werkman wrote:
> Tony Molloy schreef:
> > On Wednesday 08 October 2008 19:08:35 A.J. Werkman wrote:
> >> F10 beta has problems that relate to the fact that NetworkManager is
> >> used to configure nics during installation. But NetworkManager does not
> >> understand IPv6 at this time. Although not completely done, things are
> >> already being changed in a more recent anaconda build in rawhide.
> >>
> >> Try to desable IPv6 in the configuration screens and use DHCP, then
> >> things should work. As soon as you try static IP configuration anaconda
> >> likes to crash.
> >>
> >> Regards, Koos.
> >
> > I have had similar problems to the OP installing F10. What can you do, if
> > anything, when you want to do an NFS install and you don't have a dhcp
> > server. We use static IPv4 addresses.
>
> I think with the F10 beta you have a problem installing over a network.
> If you want to install beta, burn a DVD. If that is not an option, try
> to install from rawhide. Already a lot of problems are already solved
> there.
>
> Koos.

DVD install has the same problem it crashes when you try an give it a static 
IP address. Maybe I'll try Rawhide for now.

Thanks,

Tony




From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 08:27:55 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:27:55 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810082156u7861d7c2ydffa4dc89a7a4350@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
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2008/10/9 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/9 Jesse Keating <jkeating at j2solutions.net>:
>> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
>>> Antonio M wrote:
>>> >  update-desktop-database
>>> > Could not parse file
>>> > '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
>>> > directory
>>>
>>> Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source
>>> third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF
>>> files just fine too.
>>
>> Why should that prevent the rest of his menu items from showing up?
>>
>> --
>> Jesse Keating RHCE      (http://jkeating.livejournal.com)
>> Fedora Project          (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating)
>> GPG Public Key          (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub)
>> identi.ca               (http://identi.ca/jkeating)
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
> 1) I don't think to have waisted anybody's time, and I don't think
> Jesus is involved in IT!!! :-)
> 2) the point is: on another two systems I am running same software
> (Adobe Reader) menus are fine
> 3) a curiosity, how do I recover from having a dead symlink in
> update-desktop-database???
> 4) Of course, I can add manually the item but this doesn't help to
> check testing F10
>
>
> Tnx all
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

for my understanding I run same commands on a another F10 working
system (that has Adbobe Reader installed....
rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
[antonio at acerF10 ~]$ rpm -V gimp
[antonio at acerF10 ~]$
 and then as root
[root at acerF10 antonio]# update-desktop-database
[root at acerF10 antonio]#

someone can explain why I has a broken symlink on one system and
everything is o.k. on another system??
I have to check whether on the affected system (where also scribus
menu is missing while on the other system is present under
Application/Other) the newly created users are affected from same
problem (i.e. missing scribus menu) and from the fact that I cannot
add the Trashbin applet to the application bar (and the Trashbin
applet is missing from the applet list when I ricght click on the bar
and I get add to the panel.
I am confused, so also my explanation may be confused... :-)
Any idea???
-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl  Thu Oct  9 08:30:49 2008
From: jansen at strw.leidenuniv.nl (David Jansen)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:30:49 +0200
Subject: F10 Beta static ip
In-Reply-To: <200810090805.46562.tony.molloy@ul.ie>
References: <200810090805.46562.tony.molloy@ul.ie>
Message-ID: <20081009083049.GA14225@strw.leidenuniv.nl>

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:05:46AM +0100, Tony Molloy wrote:
> I have had similar problems to the OP installing F10. What can you do, if 
> anything, when you want to do an NFS install and you don't have a dhcp 
> server. We use static IPv4 addresses.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony
> 
> >
> > David G. Mackay schreef:
> > > I just attempted to install F10 Beta.  Anaconda dies when it tries to
> > > get a dhcp address for nic.  I was trying to install with a static IP
> > > address.  Is there any way to do this, or must I use dhcp during a cdrom
> > > install?
> > >
> > > Dave

Similar to bugzilla #392021 and #374271 I guess, has been this way since
Fedora 8. We use static ip addresses here as well, but I had to set up a
dhcp server to hand out those same addresses based on mac address, just
to make installs work. Quite a pain, and it would be good to get the
old, correct behaviour back (Fedora <= 7 worked fine, and so does RHEL 4 &
5), ie: anaconda should do what the user (or kickstart file) tells it to
do, and not force dhcp on everyone.

David Jansen



From bressers at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 11:29:26 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:29:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <98be106d0810082231i172cfa06s247beda5d2db0cd9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <464301771.1829371223551766862.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

> 
> I was having similar issues. I added the persistent overlay and a swap
> partition and that helped a lot. It would lock up before and now it is
> slightly more usable. When I run top it reports about 85% idle on the
> cpu. The tips here
> http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html
> helped but didn't quite work I had to look here
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Errors_and_Solutions
> to get it all working.
> 

I admit, using the SD card for swap scares me a bit.  There are a finite number of
writes available on those cards, and if you're hitting the swap hard, it's going
to wear the card out.

>From the small amount of testing I've done up to this point, I question if Gnome
is going to be usable.  It eats up most of the RAM, leaving no space for
anything else (like Firefox, which is also a pig).

I put together an XFCE spin last night to give that a try.  it works much
better, which is no doubt expected.

So the question for the Fedora folks heading this up, is what are the expectations
here?  Does this HAVE to run Gnome, or is something like XFCE acceptable?

Is the goal to run a custom spin, or to use one of the existing live images?

-- 
    JB



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 11:44:34 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 13:44:34 +0200
Subject: a really strange firefox bug in F10b ?!?
Message-ID: <64b14b300810090444s37d01acfm1890255631091c94@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I wanted to assign http://start.fedoraproject.org/ as a home page
in Firefox as soon as I installed Fedora 10 beta, but it seams that it
is not possible to do that. Every time I try to enter that url it
dissapears!

Any ideas why Mozilla and Firefox crew would forbid
http://start.fedoraproject.org/ as a home page? Or is this just a
silly bug?

Cheers,
Valent.

-- 
http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/
linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless
registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org.
ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic



From mackay_d at bellsouth.net  Thu Oct  9 11:50:02 2008
From: mackay_d at bellsouth.net (David G. Mackay)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:50:02 -0500
Subject: F10 Beta static ip
In-Reply-To: <20081009083049.GA14225@strw.leidenuniv.nl>
References: <200810090805.46562.tony.molloy@ul.ie>
	<20081009083049.GA14225@strw.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <1223553002.5412.18.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 10:30 +0200, David Jansen wrote:

> Similar to bugzilla #392021 and #374271 I guess, has been this way since
> Fedora 8. We use static ip addresses here as well, but I had to set up a
> dhcp server to hand out those same addresses based on mac address, just
> to make installs work. Quite a pain, and it would be good to get the
> old, correct behaviour back (Fedora <= 7 worked fine, and so does RHEL 4 &
> 5), ie: anaconda should do what the user (or kickstart file) tells it to
> do, and not force dhcp on everyone.

FWIW, I've installed F9 on several machines using dvd on some and
network install on others without a problem.  It's the use of
NetworkManager in Anaconda that's causing the trouble.  I was hoping for
a workaround.  I also hope that this will be resolved by the full
release.

Dave




From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 11:58:31 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:58:31 -0400
Subject: Bad fonts using Fedora on XO
In-Reply-To: <98be106d0810082245v39e7ea6fu87e7816172503a6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <98be106d0810082245v39e7ea6fu87e7816172503a6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EDF1E7.8080002@redhat.com>

Adrian Mandy wrote:
> A Temporary fix for the bad fonts, in System->Preferences->Look and 
> Feel->Appearance->Fonts tab choose subpixel smoothing. All the fonts 
> look normal now.
>

I also had to set the pixels per inch to be 96 instead of 201.

-- bk



From AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl  Thu Oct  9 12:07:13 2008
From: AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl (A.J. Werkman)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:07:13 +0200
Subject: F10 Beta static ip
In-Reply-To: <1223553002.5412.18.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>
References: <200810090805.46562.tony.molloy@ul.ie>	<20081009083049.GA14225@strw.leidenuniv.nl>
	<1223553002.5412.18.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>
Message-ID: <48EDF3F1.6010006@digifarma.nl>

The problem in the 8 and 9 are indeed related to NetworkManager. You can 
do an install with static IP addresses. Only by default anaconda 
activates NetworkManager-service and not network-service.

If you login the first time in the new installed system do the following 
as root:

# chkconfig NetworkManager off
# chkconfig network on

After a reboot the network should come up as expected.

Koos.

David G. Mackay schreef:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 10:30 +0200, David Jansen wrote:
> 
>> Similar to bugzilla #392021 and #374271 I guess, has been this way since
>> Fedora 8. We use static ip addresses here as well, but I had to set up a
>> dhcp server to hand out those same addresses based on mac address, just
>> to make installs work. Quite a pain, and it would be good to get the
>> old, correct behaviour back (Fedora <= 7 worked fine, and so does RHEL 4 &
>> 5), ie: anaconda should do what the user (or kickstart file) tells it to
>> do, and not force dhcp on everyone.
> 
> FWIW, I've installed F9 on several machines using dvd on some and
> network install on others without a problem.  It's the use of
> NetworkManager in Anaconda that's causing the trouble.  I was hoping for
> a workaround.  I also hope that this will be resolved by the full
> release.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 12:11:35 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:11:35 -0400
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
Message-ID: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps I can't see the forest for the trees here.

I installed the 767 build and now I'm trying to get on wireless. I'm
definitely in range. First I thought it was because I had WPA2
Personal security on my home AP. Brought the XO to work where I have a
Linksys WRT54G2, I disabled wireless security completely, and still am
not able to access the network. Both at home and at work there are
other networks in range besides mine.

I hunted around on the testing wiki and googled without finding
anything helpful. I've discarded network history on the Network setup.

(And I'd like to get to the point where I can ssh onto this thing
because the keyboard is not friendly for either my fat fingers or my
RSI.)

Help!

/Blake



From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 12:15:11 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:15:11 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <98be106d0810082231i172cfa06s247beda5d2db0cd9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
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Message-ID: <48EDF5CF.3000507@redhat.com>

Adrian Mandy wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org 
> <mailto:tarus at opennms.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Gang:
> 
>     I'm curious how everyone else is getting on. I followed the FAQ:
> 
>     https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card
> 
>     and was able to get the XO to boot into Fedora (cute hotdog). But
>     then I get a kernel warning on the Desktop:
> 
>     http://www.opennms.org/XO/XO-KernelFail.jpg
> 
>     Looking through /var/log/messages I don't see anything real useful -
>     no panics or errors that stand out. The load is very high, with a 15
>     minute load average near 8.
> 
>     I was curious if anyone else had managed to get things going a bit
>     better, and if I needed to be using a different image, etc.
> 
> 
> I was having similar issues. I added the persistent overlay and a swap 
> partition and that helped a lot. It would lock up before and now it is 
> slightly more usable. When I run top it reports about 85% idle on the 
> cpu. The tips here
> http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html
> helped but didn't quite work I had to look here
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Errors_and_Solutions
> to get it all working.
> 
> I'm going to try launching firefox now!

I added a 512M overlay, and it sped things up. I am seeing (based on 
eyeball and tzclock)

20 seconds to hotdog.
3 min 20 seconds to login page


As I mentioned in other emails
- I get the kernel panic
- I do get the occasional lockups
- I had to change my default font size from 201dpi to 96 dpi.
- I still see the invalid iomem size comment.


Qustion.. how do I boot to single user mode? I dont see the grub screen 
to play with

-- bk






From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 12:21:26 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:21:26 -0400
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EDF746.9040605@redhat.com>

Blake St. Claire wrote:
> Perhaps I can't see the forest for the trees here.
> 
> I installed the 767 build and now I'm trying to get on wireless. I'm
> definitely in range. First I thought it was because I had WPA2
> Personal security on my home AP. Brought the XO to work where I have a
> Linksys WRT54G2, I disabled wireless security completely, and still am
> not able to access the network. Both at home and at work there are
> other networks in range besides mine.
> 
> I hunted around on the testing wiki and googled without finding
> anything helpful. I've discarded network history on the Network setup.

FWIW if you look on the sugar docs, they say that channels 1, 6, and 11 
are best. In sugar, I could not connect to my router until I switched it 
to channel 1. If you can... give that a try.

-- bk



From sandeen at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 12:28:16 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:28:16 -0500
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EDF8E0.2030301@redhat.com>

Blake St. Claire wrote:
> Perhaps I can't see the forest for the trees here.
> 
> I installed the 767 build and now I'm trying to get on wireless. I'm
> definitely in range. First I thought it was because I had WPA2
> Personal security on my home AP. Brought the XO to work where I have a
> Linksys WRT54G2, I disabled wireless security completely, and still am
> not able to access the network. Both at home and at work there are
> other networks in range besides mine.
> 
> I hunted around on the testing wiki and googled without finding
> anything helpful. I've discarded network history on the Network setup.
> 
> (And I'd like to get to the point where I can ssh onto this thing
> because the keyboard is not friendly for either my fat fingers or my
> RSI.)
> 
> Help!

If you just need to get a devkey you can copy the .devkey.html file to
another pc via a usb stick, point at it in a browser*, and get the key
that way.  Then copy it to /security via the usb key again.

I did that when I too was having wireless trouble with one of the builds
I landed on.

-Eric

*FF3 didn't like the certificate, Safari failed to display the form
properly, but lynx worked for me ;)



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 12:48:27 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:48:27 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing
In-Reply-To: <48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com>  <48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223556507.26757.11.camel@flatline>

While the plymouth hotdog screen is displayed...

* hit <esc> to see the text boot up.
* hit <esc> to return to the hot dog.
* hit <esc> to see the text boot up again.

It seems that each time you return to the text screen, plymouth appends
the boot.log output to whatever is already displayed.  So on a slow
boot-up ... I see>

Module sr_mod not found.
Module loop not found.
Module sr_mod not found.
Module loop not found.
Module sr_mod not found.
Module loop not found.
Module sr_mod not found.
Module loop not found.

A minor nit of course.

Thanks,
James

On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 19:47 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Some things:
> 
> On bootup, I get:
> 
> Module sr_mod not found.
> MOdule loop not found.
> 
> Do I need a new image for that?
> 
> I also see :
> sdchi-pci 0000:00:0c.1: Invalid iomem size
> Unable to fine persistent overlay: using temporary
> 
> 
> Did I hork the setup steps?
> 
> --bk
> 
> 
-- 
==========================================
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 Quality Engineering -- Red Hat, Inc.
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From tarus at opennms.org  Thu Oct  9 13:03:40 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:03:40 -0400
Subject: Bad fonts using Fedora on XO
In-Reply-To: <48EDF1E7.8080002@redhat.com>
References: <98be106d0810082245v39e7ea6fu87e7816172503a6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EDF1E7.8080002@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <140EB850-2001-47A3-9953-476D3B33C00F@opennms.org>


On Oct 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Bryan Kearney wrote:

> Adrian Mandy wrote:
>> A Temporary fix for the bad fonts, in System->Preferences->Look and  
>> Feel->Appearance->Fonts tab choose subpixel smoothing. All the  
>> fonts look normal now.
>>
>
> I also had to set the pixels per inch to be 96 instead of 201.

My problem is that I haven't been able to get that to load, yet. (sniff)

-T

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From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 13:08:29 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:08:29 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing
In-Reply-To: <1223556507.26757.11.camel@flatline>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com>
	<48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com> <1223556507.26757.11.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <48EE024D.6010102@redhat.com>

James Laska wrote:
> While the plymouth hotdog screen is displayed...
> 
> * hit <esc> to see the text boot up.
> * hit <esc> to return to the hot dog.
> * hit <esc> to see the text boot up again.

Is the escape button the top left circle with an x or is it the 
magnifying glass?

-- bk




From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 13:26:18 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:26:18 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing
In-Reply-To: <48EE024D.6010102@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com> <48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>
	<1223556507.26757.11.camel@flatline>  <48EE024D.6010102@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223558778.26757.13.camel@flatline>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 09:08 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Is the escape button the top left circle with an x or is it the 
> magnifying glass?


It's the top left key the (X) ... I think.

Thanks,
James

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From bpowell01 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 13:31:18 2008
From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:31:18 -0400
Subject: XO: Boot / Power issues.
In-Reply-To: <96365e610810080756i1f7a354cp4cd12c30fd137961@mail.gmail.com>
References: <96365e610810080733j6fca0b78se906e714fcf96483@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810081048220.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<96365e610810080756i1f7a354cp4cd12c30fd137961@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96365e610810090631m32058b7hd5b9c45f36907323@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Brian Powell <bpowell01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> I will get an answer for you, Brian.
>>
>> --g
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008, Brian Powell wrote:
>>
>>> I had some boot issues with the XO right out of the box and the unit
>>> would power itself off sporadically after about a minute or so and I
>>> was hoping a clean install would resolve it, however the XO keeps
>>> powering down on it's own and it happened during the erase / install
>>> process, now I think it is bricked as I get a blank screen when
>>> powering it on, no button restore options work and after about 20
>>> seconds of being turned on the battery light blinks red.
>>>
>>> Do I need to RMA this or does anyone have any other suggestions.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> BrianPowell
>>> http://fedoraproject.org
>>>
>>> --
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>>
>
> Thank you Greg.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> BrianPowell
> http://fedoraproject.org
>


Greg,

Just an FYI, I will be at OLF this weekend and will have the XO with
me, if that helps or means anything. Short of physically opening the
device up I have tried everything to get some sort of prompts on the
screen without success.

Thanks for the assistance with this.
-- 
Regards,

BrianPowell
http://fedoraproject.org



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 13:33:16 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:33:16 -0400
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
In-Reply-To: <48EDF746.9040605@redhat.com>
References: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EDF746.9040605@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810090633p431b23aao960b63e72a0bc211@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:
> Blake St. Claire wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps I can't see the forest for the trees here.
>>
>> I installed the 767 build and now I'm trying to get on wireless. I'm
>> definitely in range. First I thought it was because I had WPA2
>> Personal security on my home AP. Brought the XO to work where I have a
>> Linksys WRT54G2, I disabled wireless security completely, and still am
>> not able to access the network. Both at home and at work there are
>> other networks in range besides mine.
>>
>> I hunted around on the testing wiki and googled without finding
>> anything helpful. I've discarded network history on the Network setup.
>
> FWIW if you look on the sugar docs, they say that channels 1, 6, and 11 are
> best. In sugar, I could not connect to my router until I switched it to
> channel 1. If you can... give that a try.

I'm a complete newbie to the XO. Changing to channel 1 didn't help.

What I did find by poking around, by dragging over to the right side
third of the mousepad that I get into a different screen where I could
switch to neighborhood, group, etc. Activating neighborhood showed
three mesh hotspots: mesh 1, mesh 6, and mesh 11. My AP 'hotspot' did
not show up in my neighborhood no matter whether it was on channel 1
or channel 11.

I googled again this morning (with coffee in me) and found
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity (is this the sugar docs?)
and found the instructions for manually connecting:
  /sbin/iwconfig eth0 mode managed essid <myssid>
  /sbin/dhclient eth0

That's got me onto the network and I was able to do a software update,
getting the browse(r) app among everything else. Next step is to get
my devkey.

/Blake



From msolberg at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 13:34:20 2008
From: msolberg at redhat.com (Michael Solberg)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:34:20 -0400
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223559260.6099.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>


On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 08:11 -0400, Blake St. Claire wrote:
> Perhaps I can't see the forest for the trees here.
> 
> I installed the 767 build and now I'm trying to get on wireless. I'm
> definitely in range. First I thought it was because I had WPA2
> Personal security on my home AP. Brought the XO to work where I have a
> Linksys WRT54G2, I disabled wireless security completely, and still am
> not able to access the network. Both at home and at work there are
> other networks in range besides mine.

Yep.  I was never able to get my XO to connect to my wireless using the
GUI.

Here's what I did via the terminal (I have a WEP key):

# iwlist scanning eth0
(make sure your network shows up in the list)
# iwconfig eth0 mode managed
# iwconfig eth0 key 's:mykey'
# iwconfig eth0 essid 'myessid'
# iwconfig
(make sure you've got your AP's MAC address in there)
# dhclient eth0

Then I was able to access the Interwebs.  Note that you'll have to wait
for all the networking stuff that the XO automagically does with meshing
to finish before trying to configure the card.  Not sure why that is.

Michael.




From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl  Thu Oct  9 14:02:05 2008
From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:02:05 +0200
Subject: All these XO threads
Message-ID: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>

Hi.
I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
is very low-traffic)?

If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.

Regards,
R.

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From katzj at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 14:06:35 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:06:35 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <464301771.1829371223551766862.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <464301771.1829371223551766862.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223561195.19673.160.camel@aglarond.local>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 07:29 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:
> > I was having similar issues. I added the persistent overlay and a swap
> > partition and that helped a lot. It would lock up before and now it is
> > slightly more usable. When I run top it reports about 85% idle on the
> > cpu. The tips here
> > http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html
> > helped but didn't quite work I had to look here
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Errors_and_Solutions
> > to get it all working.
>
> I admit, using the SD card for swap scares me a bit.  There are a finite number of
> writes available on those cards, and if you're hitting the swap hard, it's going
> to wear the card out.

Yes, I'm not convinced it's something that we want to recommend as a
general thing either.  But that doesn't make it a non-useful data point
in testing

> >From the small amount of testing I've done up to this point, I question if Gnome
> is going to be usable.  It eats up most of the RAM, leaving no space for
> anything else (like Firefox, which is also a pig).
> 
> I put together an XFCE spin last night to give that a try.  it works much
> better, which is no doubt expected.
> 
> So the question for the Fedora folks heading this up, is what are the expectations
> here?  Does this HAVE to run Gnome, or is something like XFCE acceptable?
> 
> Is the goal to run a custom spin, or to use one of the existing live images?

There are really two goals
1) To be able to give an option for people (especially G1G1 users) an
option for a more "traditional" computing experience
2) To do so using a stock Fedora live image

The fact that right now it's a custom image is largely a fluke of me not
having committed something I thought I did.  Hopefully as the snapshots
start up, we can switch over to the stock live images (although there's
one little interim hack I probably need to land).  But there is an XFCE
live image, so that's not entirely out of the question as the
recommendation; that said, GNOME vs XFCE doesn't seem to be the biggest
problem we're bumping up against at the moment

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 14:07:34 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:07:34 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <48EDF5CF.3000507@redhat.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<98be106d0810082231i172cfa06s247beda5d2db0cd9@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EDF5CF.3000507@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223561254.19673.161.camel@aglarond.local>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 08:15 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Qustion.. how do I boot to single user mode? I dont see the grub screen 
> to play with

There isn't a grub screen. -- the XO boots using OpenFirmware, not a
traditional PC BIOS  You have to either drop to open firmware at boot or
(probably easier) edit the boot/olpc.fth on the SD card to add your
kernel arguments.

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 14:07:54 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:07:54 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing
In-Reply-To: <1223556507.26757.11.camel@flatline>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48ED2119.1050208@redhat.com>  <48ED467B.6090205@redhat.com>
	<1223556507.26757.11.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <1223561274.19673.162.camel@aglarond.local>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 08:48 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> It seems that each time you return to the text screen, plymouth appends
> the boot.log output to whatever is already displayed.  So on a slow
> boot-up ... I see>

Yeah, I filed this against plymouth a few days ago

Jeremy



From adrin.jalali at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 14:39:00 2008
From: adrin.jalali at gmail.com (Adrin Jalali)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:09:00 +0330
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <8049a2b40810090739k55153ca8j690d58a73db04126@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
<D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl> wrote:
> Hi.
> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> is very low-traffic)?
>
> If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
>
> Regards,
> R.
>
Agree +1



From jamundso at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 14:42:25 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:42:25 -0500
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810090742yd02f089o9e6bd4c859ec83b2@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
<D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl> wrote:
> Hi.
> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> is very low-traffic)?

+1 here.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From limb at jcomserv.net  Thu Oct  9 14:48:33 2008
From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:48:33 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810090742yd02f089o9e6bd4c859ec83b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<6d06ce20810090742yd02f089o9e6bd4c859ec83b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29118.198.175.55.5.1223563713.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>


> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
> <D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
>> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
>> is very low-traffic)?
>
> +1 here.

+1. but can be bought.  Will change to -1 for a free XO. ;)

> jerry
>
> --
> There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of
> smart".
>
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From tarus at opennms.org  Thu Oct  9 15:09:29 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 11:09:29 -0400
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <64425BCD-049F-4FEC-B5AE-20B250E3D6AA@opennms.org>


On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:

> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit  
> annoying.
> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> is very low-traffic)?

 From gdk:

3. If you are not already subscribed to the Fedora testing mailing list,
go subscribe now.  Test work will be coordinated on that list.
   (http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list)

Just doing what I've been told.

-T

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From adingman at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 15:18:29 2008
From: adingman at redhat.com (Andrew C. Dingman)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:18:29 -0400
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <64425BCD-049F-4FEC-B5AE-20B250E3D6AA@opennms.org>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<64425BCD-049F-4FEC-B5AE-20B250E3D6AA@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <1223565509.26635.32.camel@sinope>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 11:09 -0400, Tarus Balog wrote:
> On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> 
> > I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit  
> > annoying.
> > Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> > is very low-traffic)?
> 
>  From gdk:
> 
> 3. If you are not already subscribed to the Fedora testing mailing list,
> go subscribe now.  Test work will be coordinated on that list.
>    (http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list)
> 
> Just doing what I've been told.

Me, too. But the request makes sense, so I'd be happy to move if there
were another replacement edict from GDK. After all, this list is full of
annoying posts unrelated to the XO ;)

-- 
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Instructor, Red Hat Global Learning Services
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From mcepl at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 15:25:34 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:25:34 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
Message-ID: <eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-08, 22:27 GMT, Tom Horsley wrote:
> So, X has achieved the holy grail of no config file by moving
> all the config files to a far more obscure place and changing
> them to undocumented xml gibberish?

No, the point of this should be that computer will automagically 
recognize which device you have and take from the database of 
configurations (and take a look at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy for 
illustration should look like) exact tweaks which should be done 
to make your device work.

Mat?j



From mike at miketc.net  Thu Oct  9 15:56:50 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:56:50 -0500
Subject: F10 Beta static ip
In-Reply-To: <200810090856.03475.tony.molloy@ul.ie>
References: <1223488739.5412.7.camel@vorpal.macdev.com>
	<200810090805.46562.tony.molloy@ul.ie> <48EDB7D9.3040308@digifarma.nl>
	<200810090856.03475.tony.molloy@ul.ie>
Message-ID: <1223567810.2870.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 08:56 +0100, Tony Molloy wrote:

> DVD install has the same problem it crashes when you try an give it a static 
> IP address. Maybe I'll try Rawhide for now.

A rawhide install might work for you, but the last couple days it hasn't
for me.  So you may have to await for another anaconda build to hit with
some more fixes before trying again.

(I do nfs installs via .iso or against rawhide, with static IP, same as
you and was experiencing same problems as you)

-- 
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302 at fedoraproject.org



From marco.crosio at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 16:04:42 2008
From: marco.crosio at gmail.com (Marco Crosio)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:04:42 +0200
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <1223565509.26635.32.camel@sinope>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<64425BCD-049F-4FEC-B5AE-20B250E3D6AA@opennms.org>
	<1223565509.26635.32.camel@sinope>
Message-ID: <390328ce0810090904l53099bb0k32b901473edfca04@mail.gmail.com>

+1 too

2008/10/9 Andrew C. Dingman <adingman at redhat.com>

> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 11:09 -0400, Tarus Balog wrote:
> > On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> >
> > > I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit
> > > annoying.
> > > Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> > > is very low-traffic)?
> >
> >  From gdk:
> >
> > 3. If you are not already subscribed to the Fedora testing mailing list,
> > go subscribe now.  Test work will be coordinated on that list.
> >    (http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list)
> >
> > Just doing what I've been told.
>
> Me, too. But the request makes sense, so I'd be happy to move if there
> were another replacement edict from GDK. After all, this list is full of
> annoying posts unrelated to the XO ;)
>
> --
> Andrew C. Dingman, RHCA, RHCSS, RHCX
> Instructor, Red Hat Global Learning Services
> adingman at redhat.com
> gpg: 4DEB 3DF1 1007 B26D EC76  80F4 3C26 A4EB 2975 74B2
>
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 16:51:28 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:51:28 +0200
Subject: who can help with menu issues??
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810090951i4b6e1c65g7ba87021ade0c068@mail.gmail.com>

I have the following issues:

1) on one system Gimp in menu is not present for one user, but it is
present for other users: it is not even present in
System/Aspect&Style/Principal menu where one could put a tick in the
box to show item...how do I recover from it??? Anyway I could add
manually, but it should work in the other way..i.e present as
standard.
2) on two different system, on system 1 I can add Trashbin applet to
the bar as it is present in available applet in the list, on system 2
Trashbin applet is not even present in the list

I mailed this to the two list as I assume that it is my fault... ;-)

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  9 16:53:35 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:53:35 -0400
Subject: Firefox in FC10, this is a weirdy
Message-ID: <48EE370F.1030207@sbcglobal.net>

FC10, Firefox-3
If i type in URL  lxer.com or linuxtoday.com Firefox says it can't find 
server at http://www.lxer.com or www.linuxtoday.com .

I can go to yahoo.com, redhat.com, foxnews.com without any problems.

On my FC8, Firefox-2.0 Laptop on same network , if I type in lxer.com or 
linuxtoday.com Firefox-2.0 doesn't inject a www. in front of URL, and I 
can go to both URL's without any problems.

Firefox-3 on FC10 always puts a www. in front of URL.

And what makes this more weird is that I have installed on a FC8  x86_64 
box , Remi/FC8 Firefox/3.0 and it doesn't inject
http://www.lxer.com , it always comes up as http://lxer.com  and goes to 
website with no problems.
So it seems for lxer.com and linuxtoday.com if the www. is injected it 
can't find those two websites.
Even if I type in on the X86_64 box http://www.lxer.com, it eliminates 
the www. and gives a http://lxer.com and goes to the website

I'm perplexed.



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 17:03:11 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:03:11 +0200
Subject: Firefox in FC10, this is a weirdy
In-Reply-To: <48EE370F.1030207@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48EE370F.1030207@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810091003g47d6ae6bw8c573ab8510c4ddb@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/9 Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net>:
> FC10, Firefox-3
> If i type in URL  lxer.com or linuxtoday.com Firefox says it can't find
> server at http://www.lxer.com or www.linuxtoday.com .
>
> I can go to yahoo.com, redhat.com, foxnews.com without any problems.
>
> On my FC8, Firefox-2.0 Laptop on same network , if I type in lxer.com or
> linuxtoday.com Firefox-2.0 doesn't inject a www. in front of URL, and I can
> go to both URL's without any problems.
>
> Firefox-3 on FC10 always puts a www. in front of URL.
>
> And what makes this more weird is that I have installed on a FC8  x86_64 box
> , Remi/FC8 Firefox/3.0 and it doesn't inject
> http://www.lxer.com , it always comes up as http://lxer.com  and goes to
> website with no problems.
> So it seems for lxer.com and linuxtoday.com if the www. is injected it can't
> find those two websites.
> Even if I type in on the X86_64 box http://www.lxer.com, it eliminates the
> www. and gives a http://lxer.com and goes to the website
>
> I'm perplexed.
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

here it works.....if i enter lxer.com it open the webpage and I read
lxer.com in the address line, if I type linuxtoday.com I go to the
webpage and in the address line I read www.linuxtoday.com
But server work here

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From keith at karsites.net  Thu Oct  9 17:06:02 2008
From: keith at karsites.net (Keith Roberts)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:06:02 +0100 (BST)
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <8049a2b40810090739k55153ca8j690d58a73db04126@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<8049a2b40810090739k55153ca8j690d58a73db04126@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810091805300.19846@www.karsites.net>

On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Adrin Jalali wrote:

> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>     <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> From: Adrin Jalali <adrin.jalali at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: All these XO threads
> 
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
> <D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
>> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
>> is very low-traffic)?
>>
>> If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> R.
>>
> Agree +1
>
> -- 
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list

me too :)

Keith Roberts

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From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 17:10:52 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:40:52 -0430
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <1223572252.23405.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:02 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> Hi.
> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> is very low-traffic)?

+1

> If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.

Not so much annoying as frustrating, given that I have no prospect of
being able to get an XO where I am. I suspect the same is true of many
people on this list.

poc



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Thu Oct  9 17:14:04 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:14:04 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: who can help with menu issues??
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810090951i4b6e1c65g7ba87021ade0c068@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810090951i4b6e1c65g7ba87021ade0c068@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810091911540.15904@sandbox.cz>

On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Antonio M wrote:

> I have the following issues:
>
> 1) on one system Gimp in menu is not present for one user, but it is
> present for other users: it is not even present in
> System/Aspect&Style/Principal menu where one could put a tick in the
> box to show item...how do I recover from it??? Anyway I could add
> manually, but it should work in the other way..i.e present as
> standard.

Did you try to delete the gnome profile files (~/.gnome, .config, 
.gconf..)?

> 2) on two different system, on system 1 I can add Trashbin applet to
> the bar as it is present in available applet in the list, on system 2
> Trashbin applet is not even present in the list

You can try to find what this applet is on the disk then try to look 
wherether this is installed on the other system.

Adam Pribyl



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 17:13:44 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:13:44 -0500
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810091805300.19846@www.karsites.net>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>	<8049a2b40810090739k55153ca8j690d58a73db04126@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810091805300.19846@www.karsites.net>
Message-ID: <48EE3BC8.9040405@gmail.com>

i find this thread annoying and that it's cluttering my mailbox.  we get 
your point.  unless directed by greg to a new mailing list you'll have 
to deal with these XO messages until the end of october.  it's pretty 
easy to click 'delete' if it says 'XO' in the subject. 
c

Keith Roberts wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Adrin Jalali wrote:
>
>> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>>     <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>> From: Adrin Jalali <adrin.jalali at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: All these XO threads
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
>> <D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl> wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
>>> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
>>> is very low-traffic)?
>>>
>>> If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> R.
>>>
>> Agree +1
>>
>> -- 
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>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
> me too :)
>
> Keith Roberts
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From gdk at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 17:14:29 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 13:14:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810091314150.7587@localhost.localdomain>


On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Blake St. Claire wrote:

> Perhaps I can't see the forest for the trees here.
>
> I installed the 767 build and now I'm trying to get on wireless. I'm
> definitely in range. First I thought it was because I had WPA2
> Personal security on my home AP. Brought the XO to work where I have a
> Linksys WRT54G2, I disabled wireless security completely, and still am
> not able to access the network. Both at home and at work there are
> other networks in range besides mine.
>
> I hunted around on the testing wiki and googled without finding
> anything helpful. I've discarded network history on the Network setup.
>
> (And I'd like to get to the point where I can ssh onto this thing
> because the keyboard is not friendly for either my fat fingers or my
> RSI.)

You could plug in a USB keyboard, btw.

--g



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 17:25:29 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:25:29 +0200
Subject: who can help with menu issues??
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810091911540.15904@sandbox.cz>
References: <4c37b6af0810090951i4b6e1c65g7ba87021ade0c068@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810091911540.15904@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810091025jc9ccf89q8584b6396509887c@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/9 Adam Pribyl <pribyl at lowlevel.cz>:
> On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Antonio M wrote:
>
>> I have the following issues:
>>
>> 1) on one system Gimp in menu is not present for one user, but it is
>> present for other users: it is not even present in
>> System/Aspect&Style/Principal menu where one could put a tick in the
>> box to show item...how do I recover from it??? Anyway I could add
>> manually, but it should work in the other way..i.e present as
>> standard.
>
> Did you try to delete the gnome profile files (~/.gnome, .config, .gconf..)?

done but there is no way to have the Gimp appear in this particular
user!!! and in afirst trial I didn't delete the manual entry for teh
Gimp, I deleted suggested folders, ant then I relogged and I found an
entry for The Gimp (not for the Graphical Image Manipulation Program)
in other menu.
>
>> 2) on two different system, on system 1 I can add Trashbin applet to
>> the bar as it is present in available applet in the list, on system 2
>> Trashbin applet is not even present in the list
>
> You can try to find what this applet is on the disk then try to look
> wherether this is installed on the other system.

where shall I look?? and how can I reinstall it??

Tnx

>



-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 17:31:55 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:31:55 -0700
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <48EE3BC8.9040405@gmail.com>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<8049a2b40810090739k55153ca8j690d58a73db04126@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0810091805300.19846@www.karsites.net>
	<48EE3BC8.9040405@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223573515.4410.112.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:13 -0500, Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> 
> i find this thread annoying and that it's cluttering my mailbox.  we get 
> your point.  unless directed by greg to a new mailing list you'll have 
> to deal with these XO messages until the end of october.  it's pretty 
> easy to click 'delete' if it says 'XO' in the subject. 

Or maybe read it since it's Fedora on the XOs and the changes needed to
fix issues on the XOs would be changes in Fedora, that everybody would
consume.

The XO userbase is potentially huge, we shouldn't be shunting these
users off to their own list.  Problems experienced on the XO are
problems that other people may experience and first-class QA and testing
issues.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
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From jweiss at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 17:40:21 2008
From: jweiss at redhat.com (Jeff Weiss)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:40:21 -0400
Subject: Firefox in FC10, this is a weirdy
In-Reply-To: <48EE370F.1030207@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48EE370F.1030207@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <48EE4205.7060606@redhat.com>

Jim wrote:
> FC10, Firefox-3
> If i type in URL  lxer.com or linuxtoday.com Firefox says it can't find
> server at http://www.lxer.com or www.linuxtoday.com .
> 
> I can go to yahoo.com, redhat.com, foxnews.com without any problems.
> 
> On my FC8, Firefox-2.0 Laptop on same network , if I type in lxer.com or
> linuxtoday.com Firefox-2.0 doesn't inject a www. in front of URL, and I
> can go to both URL's without any problems.
> 
> Firefox-3 on FC10 always puts a www. in front of URL.
> 
> And what makes this more weird is that I have installed on a FC8  x86_64
> box , Remi/FC8 Firefox/3.0 and it doesn't inject
> http://www.lxer.com , it always comes up as http://lxer.com  and goes to
> website with no problems.
> So it seems for lxer.com and linuxtoday.com if the www. is injected it
> can't find those two websites.
> Even if I type in on the X86_64 box http://www.lxer.com, it eliminates
> the www. and gives a http://lxer.com and goes to the website
> 
> I'm perplexed.
> 

I'm not an expert on FF but I believe what you're seeing (the appending
of www) is because FF is unable to resolve that hostname in DNS, so it
tries appending www.  That fails too and so it shows that error message.
 For instance, try surfing to a host that you're sure is not in DNS,
like gsehgsudfnisfwvvnsd.com.  It'll append www.

And when you see www get *removed* it has nothing to do with Firefox,
it's probably because the web host redirects you to the non-www host.

I would suggest trying some dns (dig) commands on the command line with
your F10 setup and see what happens.  I think you'll find something is
wrong with your dns setup, or perhaps your dns server.



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 18:19:01 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:19:01 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:
> Gang:
>
> I'm curious how everyone else is getting on.

19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.

While I'm waiting I'm trying to install the live image onto my SD
card. All I've got around here are Some Linux Except Supported ;-) and
when I ran the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh I got this:
...
Copying live image to USB stick
Updating boot config file
sed: can't read /media/usbdev.euzIBT/syslinux/isolinux.cfg.cfg: No
such file or directory
Setting up /boot/olpc.fth file
Installing boot loader
syslinux: failed to create ldlinux.sys
USB stickset up as live image!

Can't tell if either of those is an issue. If it turns out it is will
have to set up a Fedora box or go over to a friend's house and use his
-- probably the latter as it'll be faster.

I'm scheduled to be on IRC tonight, but have a conflict and since I
don't have my XO installed yet, so will probably miss tonight.

/Blake



From david at gnsa.us  Thu Oct  9 18:26:56 2008
From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:26:56 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d6e6dfeb0810091126l858e8a1vf19bea0480979820@mail.gmail.com>

> sed: can't read /media/usbdev.euzIBT/syslinux/isolinux.cfg.cfg: No
> such file or directory

That's happened for me as well - I was going to complain about it and
forgot.. It didn't seem to matter though, the SD card still booted
properly.



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 18:27:35 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:27:35 -0400
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810091314150.7587@localhost.localdomain>
References: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810091314150.7587@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810091127m8e38f83hf2f604cf5d087784@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> You could plug in a USB keyboard, btw.

Yup, if I had one. :-)

/Blake



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 18:30:11 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:30:11 -0500
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EE4DB3.3050301@gmail.com>

Blake -
I had those warnings too and had no problem booting fedora.  Plug in the 
usb cable, hit power, and you should be ready to roll.  Oh and wait 5 - 
10 minutes for GNOME to come up.
C

Blake St. Claire wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:
>   
>> Gang:
>>
>> I'm curious how everyone else is getting on.
>>     
>
> 19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.
>
> While I'm waiting I'm trying to install the live image onto my SD
> card. All I've got around here are Some Linux Except Supported ;-) and
> when I ran the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh I got this:
> ...
> Copying live image to USB stick
> Updating boot config file
> sed: can't read /media/usbdev.euzIBT/syslinux/isolinux.cfg.cfg: No
> such file or directory
> Setting up /boot/olpc.fth file
> Installing boot loader
> syslinux: failed to create ldlinux.sys
> USB stickset up as live image!
>
> Can't tell if either of those is an issue. If it turns out it is will
> have to set up a Fedora box or go over to a friend's house and use his
> -- probably the latter as it'll be faster.
>
> I'm scheduled to be on IRC tonight, but have a conflict and since I
> don't have my XO installed yet, so will probably miss tonight.
>
> /Blake
>
>   



From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 18:29:33 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:29:33 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <48EE4DB3.3050301@gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC368C.50100@puzzled.xs4all.nl>	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>	<2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EE4DB3.3050301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EE4D8D.7080302@redhat.com>

Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> Blake -
> I had those warnings too and had no problem booting fedora.  Plug in the 
> usb cable, hit power, and you should be ready to roll.  Oh and wait 5 - 
> 10 minutes for GNOME to come up.


Interesting... are putting the SD card in a USB reader into the side? 
Or... are you putting the SD card directly into the monitor (little 
slot, bottom right of the screen)?


-- bk



From michal at harddata.com  Thu Oct  9 18:33:39 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:33:39 -0600
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 05:25:34PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 2008-10-08, 22:27 GMT, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > So, X has achieved the holy grail of no config file by moving
> > all the config files to a far more obscure place and changing
> > them to undocumented xml gibberish?
> 
> No, the point of this should be that computer will automagically 
> recognize which device you have and take from the database of 
> configurations

There is a small fly in this ointment.  The above may work, usually,
but very far from always.  For example, if monitor EDID data are
faulty or not present at all, and this is _not_ a hypothetical
situation, then a configuration you are getting is busted.  Also
something which is possible, and even "correct" in some sense, does
not need to be optimal/desired in a given situation.

It sounds like another of those "90% solutions" which happen to
work, more or less, for a developer in her/his particular
configuration and which are screwing you often enough.

> (and take a look at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy for 
> illustration should look like)

Yes, I had do that on various occasions.  It is never clear
what to do with this dreaded XML maze or if what you are trying
to hack even has a chance of working.  Shudder!

   Michal



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 18:36:22 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:36:22 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <48EE4DB3.3050301@gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EE4DB3.3050301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810091136i521943b8o54cda088d2baa33f@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Christopher David Desjardins
<cddesjardins at gmail.com> wrote:
> Blake -
> I had those warnings too and had no problem booting fedora.  Plug in the usb
> cable, hit power, and you should be ready to roll.  Oh and wait 5 - 10
> minutes for GNOME to come up.

Maybe I'm missing something. Is there a reason why I wouldn't put the
SD card in the SD slot instead of leaving it in the USB dongle?

Good to know those warning/errors aren't important -- thanks.

--

/Blake



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 18:36:33 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:36:33 -0700
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:33 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> There is a small fly in this ointment.  The above may work, usually,
> but very far from always.  For example, if monitor EDID data are
> faulty or not present at all, and this is _not_ a hypothetical
> situation, then a configuration you are getting is busted.  Also
> something which is possible, and even "correct" in some sense, does
> not need to be optimal/desired in a given situation.

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Ajax has in the past asked for /anybody/ to provide him situations where
the EDID is bogus.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From tarus at opennms.org  Thu Oct  9 18:37:50 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:37:50 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
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On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Blake St. Claire wrote:

> 19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.

How are you getting your DevKey?

I installed the 767 firmware, then used software update to get the new  
activities.

I launched browse and there was a link on the default home page. I  
clicked on it and had a dev key *immediately*. I was really surprised  
at how quick it was.

-T

_______________________________________________________________________
Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C



From david at gnsa.us  Thu Oct  9 18:40:30 2008
From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:40:30 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <69682DB7-2BDC-4021-94E6-CFDF0C0E1103@opennms.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
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	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
	<69682DB7-2BDC-4021-94E6-CFDF0C0E1103@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <d6e6dfeb0810091140r7284bb8fu39e2acf38f62cc8@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:
>
> On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Blake St. Claire wrote:
>
>> 19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.
>
> How are you getting your DevKey?
>
> I installed the 767 firmware, then used software update to get the new
> activities.
>
> I launched browse and there was a link on the default home page. I clicked
> on it and had a dev key *immediately*. I was really surprised at how quick
> it was.
>
> -T

So that's how it works for the famous and powerful. :)
Most of the time you have to request a devkey and wait 24 hours -
supposedly to prevent people from stealing a unit and being able to
run unsigned code on it.



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 18:45:26 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:45:26 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <69682DB7-2BDC-4021-94E6-CFDF0C0E1103@opennms.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
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	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
	<69682DB7-2BDC-4021-94E6-CFDF0C0E1103@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810091145u8495cc4h70748714b354404@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Tarus Balog <tarus at opennms.org> wrote:
>
> On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Blake St. Claire wrote:
>
>> 19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.
>
> How are you getting your DevKey?
>
> I installed the 767 firmware, then used software update to get the new
> activities.

Ditto here.

>
> I launched browse and there was a link on the default home page.

I did not notice that until now. I was (blindly) following the
instructions on the wiki and went to file:///home/.devkey.html, which
went to laptop.org.

> I clicked
> on it and had a dev key *immediately*. I was really surprised at how quick
> it was.

I just tried that now and got an 'Address Not Found' for activation.laptop.org.

/Blake



From tarus at opennms.org  Thu Oct  9 19:03:08 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:03:08 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <d6e6dfeb0810091140r7284bb8fu39e2acf38f62cc8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
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	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
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	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
	<69682DB7-2BDC-4021-94E6-CFDF0C0E1103@opennms.org>
	<d6e6dfeb0810091140r7284bb8fu39e2acf38f62cc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9849EE16-835E-4859-99B1-F411515D2FAA@opennms.org>


On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:40 PM, David Nalley wrote:

> So that's how it works for the famous and powerful. :)

Where? (grin)

> Most of the time you have to request a devkey and wait 24 hours -
> supposedly to prevent people from stealing a unit and being able to
> run unsigned code on it.

That's what I thought. Now it took me about six hours to get the  
firmware upgraded and the new activities installed on the crappy  
Internet connection at the hotel, so maybe it thought I'd paid my dues.

I clicked on the link and it came up a few seconds later with "Your  
new development key is ready!". There was a "wget" line that I just  
pasted into terminal and it Just Worked(tm) when I inserted the USB  
stick. I stayed up until like 2am to make sure I got the process  
started and was surprised that I didn't have to wait.

Weird.

-T

_______________________________________________________________________
Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   +1 919 533 0160
The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    +1 503 961 7746
Email: tarus at opennms.org                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C



From niftyfedora at niftyegg.com  Thu Oct  9 19:17:16 2008
From: niftyfedora at niftyegg.com (Nifty Fedora Mitch)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:17:16 -0700
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <1223572252.23405.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<1223572252.23405.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <20081009191716.GA3169@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:40:52PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:02 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > Hi.
> > I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
> > Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> > is very low-traffic)?
> bracin
> +1
> 
> > If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
> 
> Not so much annoying as frustremating, given that I have no prospect of
> being able to get an XO where I am. I suspect the same is true of many
> people on this list.
> 

The key here is the XO folk are embracing fedora.  i.e. they are getting on
this train not trying to drive things the other way arround.  

The school server will be Fedora with some XO services, backups via rsync and
some class specific material and services like network gateway.

For those in the US the folk at OLPC will have another give-one:get-one program
this fall..  The XO is cute and yes nifty.  A serious Linux USER will find it a bit light
on horsepower and memory but marvelous.    

As far as a teaching tool goes the software and teaching concepts can
be applied to any laptop not just the XO.   The hardware enables the
software as much or more than the other way around.

It has yum,
It has a window manager (matchbox)
It has a desktop (sugar)
It has bash
It has python
It has wireless networking
It has Ctl-Alt-F[123] alternate shell
It has an X server.
It has user accounts...
It has a web browser (firefox)
It has a Fedora kernel...
It has USB ports (three).
It has a mousepad
It has a keyboard....
It has a LCD display with an advantage. 

Loading software is different... no DVD/CDROM.

When all is said and done it runs Fedora....
and this is a Fedora list.



-- 
	T o m  M i t c h e l l 
	Found me a new hat, now what?



From tyf at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 19:19:54 2008
From: tyf at redhat.com (Ty)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:19:54 -0400
Subject: XO: Not so good so far
In-Reply-To: <9849EE16-835E-4859-99B1-F411515D2FAA@opennms.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810081406p3e5fbffbp8c06b30245932a90@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810081411y11e4b84j3ae079e0e128a748@mail.gmail.com>
	<6462C175-BCDD-46BF-A2DE-6FB2D66452BE@opennms.org>
	<2e084c470810091119t53a0ec8cx30fdb5d8c351e901@mail.gmail.com>
	<69682DB7-2BDC-4021-94E6-CFDF0C0E1103@opennms.org>
	<d6e6dfeb0810091140r7284bb8fu39e2acf38f62cc8@mail.gmail.com>
	<9849EE16-835E-4859-99B1-F411515D2FAA@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <1223579994.20986.2.camel@tao>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 15:03 -0400, Tarus Balog wrote:
> > Most of the time you have to request a devkey and wait 24 hours -
> > supposedly to prevent people from stealing a unit and being able to
> > run unsigned code on it.
> 
> That's what I thought. Now it took me about six hours to get the  
> firmware upgraded and the new activities installed on the crappy  
> Internet connection at the hotel, so maybe it thought I'd paid my
> dues.
> 
> I clicked on the link and it came up a few seconds later with "Your  
> new development key is ready!". There was a "wget" line that I just  
> pasted into terminal and it Just Worked(tm) when I inserted the USB  
> stick. I stayed up until like 2am to make sure I got the process  
> started and was surprised that I didn't have to wait.
> 
> Weird.

since these machines were returned, maybe they forgot to reset the
developer key before re-shipping. 

> 
> -T
-- 
????? ??????? (know thyself) 
????? ???? (nothing in excess) 
? 



From michal at harddata.com  Thu Oct  9 19:19:11 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 13:19:11 -0600
Subject: Bad fonts using Fedora on XO
In-Reply-To: <98be106d0810082245v39e7ea6fu87e7816172503a6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <98be106d0810082245v39e7ea6fu87e7816172503a6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081009191911.GC10088@mail.harddata.com>

On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 10:45:04PM -0700, Adrian Mandy wrote:
> A Temporary fix for the bad fonts, in System->Preferences->Look and Feel->
> Appearance->Fonts tab choose subpixel smoothing. All the fonts look normal now.

Are you seeing, by an chance, the same issue I wrote about
on Oct 7 with a subject "serious font rendering problems after
20081007 changes"?

   Michal



From michal at harddata.com  Thu Oct  9 18:52:50 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:52:50 -0600
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:36:33AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:33 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > There is a small fly in this ointment.  The above may work, usually,
> > but very far from always.
> 
> Perfect is the enemy of good.

That is precisely the point.  We are seeing attempts to replace
"good" situations, where imperfections can be smoothed out by a user
by changing configurations when needed, but something which pretends
to be "perfect" and leaves you high and dry often enough.

> Ajax has in the past asked for /anybody/ to provide him situations where
> the EDID is bogus.

Oh, for example see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=315320
attached to bug 460571.

Are you seriously suggesting that a group participating in
fedora-testing list will see an every piece of a misbehaving
hardware and will see every possible configuration?  Most of
affected users will not bother at all before dismissing affected
software as junk.


   Michal



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 19:55:42 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:55:42 +0100
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <20081009191716.GA3169@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<1223572252.23405.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<20081009191716.GA3169@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810091255xc2386f6r6e3958cc03df3d04@mail.gmail.com>

> For those in the US the folk at OLPC will have another give-one:get-one program
> this fall..  The XO is cute and yes nifty.  A serious Linux USER will find it a bit light
> on horsepower and memory but marvelous.

Through amazon none the less and starting on Nov 17th. Details are at
http://www.amazon.com/xo/

> As far as a teaching tool goes the software and teaching concepts can
> be applied to any laptop not just the XO.   The hardware enables the
> software as much or more than the other way around.
>
> It has yum,
> It has a window manager (matchbox)
> It has a desktop (sugar)
> It has bash
> It has python
> It has wireless networking

Including mesh networking.

> It has Ctl-Alt-F[123] alternate shell
> It has an X server.
> It has user accounts...
> It has a web browser (firefox)
> It has a Fedora kernel...
> It has USB ports (three).
> It has a mousepad
> It has a keyboard....
> It has a LCD display with an advantage.

+ SDHC slot, webcam, audio in/out

> Loading software is different... no DVD/CDROM.

Not the only device though nowdays with all the Netbooks that don't
have an optical drive

> When all is said and done it runs Fedora....
> and this is a Fedora list.

Peter



From adam at physco.com  Thu Oct  9 20:05:37 2008
From: adam at physco.com (Adam D. Ligas)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:05:37 -0400
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810091127m8e38f83hf2f604cf5d087784@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810091314150.7587@localhost.localdomain>
	<2e084c470810091127m8e38f83hf2f604cf5d087784@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223582737.3540.8.camel@Q>

I'm on WPA2 at home - should I expect trouble with the wireless?  It
would be a pain to change/re-key everything wireless in the house.

Stupid Question Time:

Should I have trouble with the wireless, could I simply plug in a USB
wired Ethernet adapter?

- Adam

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:27 -0400, Blake St. Claire wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > You could plug in a USB keyboard, btw.
> 
> Yup, if I had one. :-)
> 
> /Blake



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 20:06:34 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:06:34 -0700
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:52 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> 
> Are you seriously suggesting that a group participating in
> fedora-testing list will see an every piece of a misbehaving
> hardware and will see every possible configuration?  Most of
> affected users will not bother at all before dismissing affected
> software as junk.

That's what's laughable.  If it fails for them now, it would have even
more chance at failing for them before.  If they simple see a failure,
give up and move along, well we haven't really made a difference there.

Only now we have much much better capability at taking a session and
running it on a variety of hardware without ever having to fiddle with a
config file, because it all just works.  Think Live images.  Think
appliance images.  Think stateless.  Autoconfiguration is a very very
good thing, and we're in a better place with it.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From clumens at redhat.com  Tue Oct  7 23:28:44 2008
From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:28:44 -0400
Subject: Rawhide Install crashes on Syntax Error.
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References: <48EBE2A2.7020409@omen.com>
Message-ID: <20081007232844.GB31657@localhost.localdomain>

> Invalid syntax on line 56 of /usr/lib/anaconda/textw/task_text/py

Fixed.  Thanks for letting us know.

- Chris



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 20:39:04 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:39:04 -0400
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <20081009191716.GA3169@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<1223572252.23405.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<20081009191716.GA3169@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
Message-ID: <1223584744.3241.46.camel@flatline>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:17 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:40:52PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:02 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > > I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
> > > Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> > > is very low-traffic)?
> > bracin
> > +1
> > 
> > > If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
> > 
> > Not so much annoying as frustremating, given that I have no prospect of
> > being able to get an XO where I am. I suspect the same is true of many
> > people on this list.
> > 
> 
> The key here is the XO folk are embracing fedora.  i.e. they are getting on
> this train not trying to drive things the other way arround.  
> 
> The school server will be Fedora with some XO services, backups via rsync and
> some class specific material and services like network gateway.
> 
> For those in the US the folk at OLPC will have another give-one:get-one program
> this fall..  The XO is cute and yes nifty.  A serious Linux USER will find it a bit light
> on horsepower and memory but marvelous.    
> 
> As far as a teaching tool goes the software and teaching concepts can
> be applied to any laptop not just the XO.   The hardware enables the
> software as much or more than the other way around.
> 
> It has yum,
> It has a window manager (matchbox)
> It has a desktop (sugar)
> It has bash
> It has python
> It has wireless networking
> It has Ctl-Alt-F[123] alternate shell
> It has an X server.
> It has user accounts...
> It has a web browser (firefox)
> It has a Fedora kernel...
> It has USB ports (three).
> It has a mousepad
> It has a keyboard....
> It has a LCD display with an advantage. 
> 
> Loading software is different... no DVD/CDROM.
> 
> When all is said and done it runs Fedora....
> and this is a Fedora list.

Well said :)

The main reason for suggesting we communicate Fedora testing on the XO
on this list was to build on the experiences of the already established
fedora-test-list community.  A lot of the efforts jeremy and friends are
going through now mirror the early days of Fedora.  There's definitely a
need for sharing of skills/experiences.

One goal of the Fedora on XO effort is to ensure that the Live images
built within Fedora infrastructure are the same images loaded onto the
XO.  There is tons of overlap here, especially for some of the Live
images built with a lighter weight desktop environment.

Hopefully there are opportunities in the future for more folks to either
G1G1 or another chance to join an XO raffle.

Thanks,
James

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From jamundso at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 20:52:54 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:52:54 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> Only now we have much much better capability at taking a session and
> running it on a variety of hardware without ever having to fiddle with a
> config file, because it all just works.  Think Live images.  Think
> appliance images.  Think stateless.  Autoconfiguration is a very very
> good thing, and we're in a better place with it.

Fair enough.
But also think about an existing user base that relies on his/her
system day after day.
If it's messed with ......

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From streeter at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 20:57:50 2008
From: streeter at redhat.com (Guy Streeter)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:57:50 -0500
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48EE704E.4010303@redhat.com>

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
...
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO

Last line is:

You should see a count-down on boot and be able to press the <Escape>
key in order to drop into OF

then what? I have an 'ok' prompt.

--Guy



From michal at harddata.com  Thu Oct  9 21:08:30 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:08:30 -0600
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 01:06:34PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> 
> Only now we have much much better capability at taking a session and
> running it on a variety of hardware without ever having to fiddle with a
> config file, because it all just works.

In other words you are saying: "If something does not work then this
is your fault and screw you"?  That is nice to know.  The problem
is that your perfect "all just works" simply does not - at least
often enough.

> Autoconfiguration is a very very
> good thing, and we're in a better place with it.

You are mixing two things.  Autoconfiguration and an ability to
easily override that autoconfiguration when it does not work or when
you have good reasons not to like results.  Take as an example the
current anaconda with a network install.  Unfortunately you are not
the only one so confused.

   Michal



From dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com  Thu Oct  9 21:17:43 2008
From: dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com (dave yates)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:17:43 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48EE704E.4010303@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EE704E.4010303@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <db34c1810810091417m32318f25y8e032d7e9f139399@mail.gmail.com>

boot sd:\olpc-sd.fth

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Guy Streeter <streeter at redhat.com> wrote:

> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> ...
> > A reminder on getting started: see...
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> Last line is:
>
> You should see a count-down on boot and be able to press the <Escape>
> key in order to drop into OF
>
> then what? I have an 'ok' prompt.
>
> --Guy
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
dave yates
webpage: http://lottalinuxlinks.com
blog: http://lottalinuxlinks.com/blog
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From david at gnsa.us  Thu Oct  9 21:23:47 2008
From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:23:47 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48EE704E.4010303@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EE704E.4010303@redhat.com>
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Guy Streeter <streeter at redhat.com> wrote:
> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> ...
>> A reminder on getting started: see...
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> Last line is:
>
> You should see a count-down on boot and be able to press the <Escape>
> key in order to drop into OF
>
> then what? I have an 'ok' prompt.


That essentially verifies that you have a devkey.
The machine should boot directly into the SD card provided you have a
SD card inserted with a bootable image, and the devkey.



From malines at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 21:29:38 2008
From: malines at gmail.com (Marcus Lines)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:29:38 -0400
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <DA80C3E6C10BE94E8FCACEB239C2FEE444CFB6CD78@EXVS01.olin.edu>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<DA80C3E6C10BE94E8FCACEB239C2FEE444CFB6CD78@EXVS01.olin.edu>
Message-ID: <7e77221c0810091429p63164db6wa5744f8122a9aa8@mail.gmail.com>

I received mine on Tuesday. I did not have much time to test the wireless
which did not work on WPA encrypted network. I am a medical student at
GA-PCOM.  I have used linux for the past 5 years.  I have a wireless network
at home.  However only have wired internet in rural central GA.  I have been
able to down loan the 767 image and request the dev key via the links
browser.
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From michal at harddata.com  Thu Oct  9 21:33:49 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:33:49 -0600
Subject: serious font rendering problems after 20081007 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081008001331.GA23856@mail.harddata.com>
References: <20081008001331.GA23856@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <20081009213349.GB3933@mail.harddata.com>

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:13:31PM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> After applying updates from 20081007 (quite a few) my display
> developed serious issues with font rendering.

OK.  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466369
with samples showing up what I am talking about.

    Michal



From streeter at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 21:45:13 2008
From: streeter at redhat.com (Guy Streeter)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:45:13 -0500
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <db34c1810810091417m32318f25y8e032d7e9f139399@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48EE704E.4010303@redhat.com>
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Message-ID: <48EE7B69.6040109@redhat.com>

dave yates wrote:
> boot sd:\olpc-sd.fth
>

Nope.
But with the hint that sd: was the device name, I found \boot\olpc.fth
Was this in the docs somewhere I missed? Seems like a fairly significant
step to leave out.

I'm using my existing XO, which I got through last year's G1G1 program.
I've successfully booted to the desktop (well, it's still thinking about
putting anything *on* the desktop, but the desktop is there :)

Introduction
I've worked for Red Hat for over 6 years, used Fedora pretty much since
its beginning, used UNIX off and on for many years before that. I have a
background in software development for microprocessor systems and kernel.

--Guy



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 22:13:45 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:13:45 -0700
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 15:08 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> 
> In other words you are saying: "If something does not work then this
> is your fault and screw you"?  That is nice to know.  The problem
> is that your perfect "all just works" simply does not - at least
> often enough.

Now, where in my statements did you get a "screw you"?  If it doesn't
work, we want to know about it, so that we can create the proper quirk
so that instead of it just working on your system / install, it'll work
on everybody's that has your setup.

> 
> > Autoconfiguration is a very very
> > good thing, and we're in a better place with it.
> 
> You are mixing two things.  Autoconfiguration and an ability to
> easily override that autoconfiguration when it does not work or when
> you have good reasons not to like results.  Take as an example the
> current anaconda with a network install.  Unfortunately you are not
> the only one so confused.

I think you are confused too.  You can still create an xorg.conf file
and populate it to your heart's content.  It'll get used instead of
autoconfiguration.


-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From mcepl at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 22:14:03 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:14:03 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On 2008-10-09, 18:33 GMT, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> There is a small fly in this ointment.  The above may work, 
> usually, but very far from always.  For example, if monitor 
> EDID data are faulty or not present at all, and this is _not_ 
> a hypothetical situation, then a configuration you are getting 
> is busted.

a) I am from Xorg team in Red Hat, so you don't have to explain 
   how EDID data are piece of *. And people who are developing 
   this as well, don't worry.
b) The point is to _identify_ the particular piece of hardware, 
   not to blindly follow what EDID suggests. But there is much 
   more to it, which even I don't grok. See a) ;-).

Mat?j



From mcepl at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 22:23:40 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:23:40 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On 2008-10-09, 21:08 GMT, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> In other words you are saying: "If something does not work then 
> this is your fault and screw you"?  That is nice to know.

No, he isn't (or at least I am not) -- the world where we are 
coming from is not that bright either. The only difference 
between now and (near) future is that now still people google for 
the small lines of text to put into /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make 
work their particular piece of turd. In the future hopefully all 
these tidbits of information could be collected, packaged, and 
served with the Xorg so that people wouldn't have to apply it 
themselves (or even know, that some hints are used).

See for example for what goes to /usr/share/hal* on 
http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/ -- I would love 
to see some database of quirks which would make Xorg work without 
anybody even noticing.

> You are mixing two things.  Autoconfiguration and an ability to
> easily override that autoconfiguration when it does not work or when
> you have good reasons not to like results.  Take as an example the
> current anaconda with a network install.  Unfortunately you are not
> the only one so confused.

I don't want to comment on the NetworkManager -- works pretty 
decently for me (certainly much better than whatever else I used 
in the past) -- but I want to emphasize a small fact that 
/etc/hal/fdi/ is and /etc subdirectory, so you (or anybody else) 
can have their specific configuration there.

Also if you have such problems to write a line of code to XML 
file, then probably you shouldn't try.

Best,

Mat?j



From jspaar at users.sourceforge.net  Thu Oct  9 23:03:10 2008
From: jspaar at users.sourceforge.net (Jack Spaar)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:03:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EE704E.4010303@redhat.com>
	<db34c1810810091417m32318f25y8e032d7e9f139399@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EE7B69.6040109@redhat.com>
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:45:13 -0500, Guy Streeter wrote:

> dave yates wrote:
>> boot sd:\olpc-sd.fth
>>
>>
> Nope.
> But with the hint that sd: was the device name, I found \boot\olpc.fth
> Was this in the docs somewhere I missed? Seems like a fairly significant
> step to leave out.
> [...]

The doc's maybe a touch confusing[*].  To test F10 you don't need to press 
Escape.  Once your dev. key is installed, just put the SD card in your XO 
and boot.  Voila: Fedora!

Like you, I'm a previous G1G1 owner, and would love to see Fedora working 
out-of-the-box on the XO.

[*] The part that says "You should see a count-down on boot and be able to 
press the <Escape> key in order to drop into OF" is just verifying that 
the dev. key is properly installed.

--Jack



From michal at harddata.com  Thu Oct  9 23:08:05 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:08:05 -0600
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223590425.4410.133.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 03:13:45PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> 
> I think you are confused too.  You can still create an xorg.conf file
> and populate it to your heart's content.

This I happen to know.  Please tell that to somebody who installs
F10 for the first time and runs into troubles with a display
or a Synaptics configuration.

There were indeed times when I was writing XF86Config files
mostly "by hand" or with a help of tools which were helping
only a tiny bit.  I believe that this was a major turn off
for a lot of people.  It appears that if I have troubles with
what was autoconfigured then I am back to that time again.

I am also worried what will happen in the future although that
this particular file will stop beeing recognized does not seem
to be likely (with X not really tied up to Gnome).  That this
general trend is what gets me worried.

    Michal



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Thu Oct  9 23:13:11 2008
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:13:11 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:23:40AM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 2008-10-09, 21:08 GMT, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > In other words you are saying: "If something does not work then 
> > this is your fault and screw you"?  That is nice to know.
> 
> No, he isn't (or at least I am not) -- the world where we are 
> coming from is not that bright either. The only difference 
> between now and (near) future is that now still people google for 
> the small lines of text to put into /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make 
> work their particular piece of turd. In the future hopefully all 
> these tidbits of information could be collected, packaged, and 
> served with the Xorg so that people wouldn't have to apply it 
> themselves (or even know, that some hints are used).


I think that a great deal of the trouble is (and I fear I don't have a
good solution) the lack of notification of such changes.  For example,
FreeBSD tries to operate on the POLA system, Principle Of Least
Astonishment.  When major changes take place, there is a HEADSUP to the
mailing list, as well as their /usr/src/UPDATING for system changes and
/usr/ports/UPDATING for 3rd party program changes. 

I don't think that's practical with Fedora because of its very nature
as, more or less, a test bed.  However, things that are relatively
drastic changes, such as a removal of xorg.conf, could probably be
better announced.  

Things like the Anaconda issue seem more of a bug. I haven't been
following that one closely, but I was under the impression that it's
going to be fixed quickly.   

Just a small example--at some point or another, rather than being able
to type linux <whatever> at installation, that option was gone.  People
had to google to find out the new way to reach the boot prompt.
Something like that, which would affect a lot of people, could have
probably been more widely announced and documented. 

We, the users, really do, (though we often complain) appreciate the work
you developers do for us, though we get upset when things break.  On the
other hand, I think most of us realize that with Fedora, especiall with
Rawhide, things will break. 

What would be great, I think, though I have no idea if it is at all
feasible, would be with things like this, to have a line of text appear
perhaps, saying, there is no longer a default xorg--if this doesn't work
for you, please file a bug with your hardware information. blah blah.
Also please note that you can construct an xorg with xorconfig (if
that's still available, I haven't checked--I have been fortunate enough
so that I didn't even realize it had been removed.) 

I think that a lot of the anger users sometimes feel is because these
things take them by surprise.  Yes, there are lists of changes--they
aren't always complete, and I suspect many of us just skim through them
anyway.  However, major changes could perhaps, merit a headsup.  

I do want to reiterate that we users really do appreciate the efforts
the developers make on our behalf. 

-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Xander: I don't like vampires. I'm going to take a stand and say 
they're not good.



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 23:15:26 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:15:26 -0700
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081009230805.GC3933@mail.harddata.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
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On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 17:08 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> This I happen to know.  Please tell that to somebody who installs
> F10 for the first time and runs into troubles with a display
> or a Synaptics configuration.
> 
> There were indeed times when I was writing XF86Config files
> mostly "by hand" or with a help of tools which were helping
> only a tiny bit.  I believe that this was a major turn off
> for a lot of people.  It appears that if I have troubles with
> what was autoconfigured then I am back to that time again.
> 
> I am also worried what will happen in the future although that
> this particular file will stop beeing recognized does not seem
> to be likely (with X not really tied up to Gnome).  That this
> general trend is what gets me worried.

You happen to pick on one of the worst drivers out there, synaptics.
These wouldn't work for configuration without fiddling with a config
file in the first place, because of it's crappy ass configuration system
relying on insecure methods.

In the future, where the norm is no X config, crap like this wouldn't be
accepted and wouldn't be here to deal with.

So yeah, we've got few wrinkles to work out, and some cruft leftover
from the past to clean up, but that's not bad.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From rfontana at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 23:41:32 2008
From: rfontana at redhat.com (Richard Fontana)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:41:32 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
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References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081009234132.GA26411@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:39:39PM -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can  
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a  
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so  
> let's all get to know each other.

I got my XO last night.

I'm a lawyer at Red Hat specializing in free software/open source
licensing issues.  Before coming to Red Hat I worked at the Software
Freedom Law Center where I represented the Free Software Foundation
among other clients.  I've been a (GNU/)Linux user since the mid-1990s
but have only been using Fedora since March of this year.  I'm married
and have a fifteen-month-old daughter and live in the Boston
metropolitan area.

- Richard



From michal at harddata.com  Thu Oct  9 23:46:58 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:46:58 -0600
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
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On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 04:15:26PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> 
> You happen to pick on one of the worst drivers out there, synaptics.

Again!  The problem is that this imaginary "perfect configuration
system" where everything is autoconfigured tends to blissfully
ignore all that crappy hardware, or special requirements, which are
out there.  Even if they are minority they are real.  And this is
not a question of X.  For example, NetworkManager works really well
in some situations and badly messes out in others.  This was like
that from the very beginning, for quite a while now,  and various
bug reports were filed.  And???

   Michal



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct  9 23:52:47 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:52:47 -0700
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081009234658.GE3933@mail.harddata.com>
References: <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty> <eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 17:46 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> 
> Again!  The problem is that this imaginary "perfect configuration
> system" where everything is autoconfigured tends to blissfully
> ignore all that crappy hardware, or special requirements, which are
> out there.  Even if they are minority they are real.  And this is
> not a question of X.  For example, NetworkManager works really well
> in some situations and badly messes out in others.  This was like
> that from the very beginning, for quite a while now,  and various
> bug reports were filed.  And???

And it's being improved, more and more with every release.  And when it
doesn't work, the network service is there to fill that gap.  But
without having NM there for everybody as a default, we wouldn't get the
exposure we need to find the corner cases to fix.  We are Fedora, we
release early, we release often, and we improve along the way.

It's funny that you pick NetworkManager, because the last 15 or so
people that have used Fedora from another OS for the first time, NM is
one of the things they constantly tell me about as being fantastic, and
the first thing they notice that is better than the alternatives.  NM
drives users to us, and keeps them here.  If we didn't have it, we'd
lose on these users.  NM is vastly better than what we had before.  Is
it perfect?  No.  Is it improving, yes.  Is it worth the speedbumps
along the way?  Absolutely.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct 10 00:09:32 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:09:32 -0600
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223596367.4410.143.camel@luminos.localdomain>
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On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 04:52:47PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> 
> It's funny that you pick NetworkManager, because the last 15 or so
> people that have used Fedora from another OS for the first time, NM is
> one of the things they constantly tell me about as being fantastic,

No, it is not funny at all and I did that on purpose.  Because
NM is really good _when_ it works correctly.  The problem is
those situations when it does not work but and the general
approach looks like "most everybody is happy and down with
malcontents".

    Michal



From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Fri Oct 10 00:34:12 2008
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:34:12 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty> <eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
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	<1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081010003412.GB1116912@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> said:
> In the future, where the norm is no X config, crap like this wouldn't be
> accepted and wouldn't be here to deal with.

For some unknown reason, X thinks my 24" monitor is the size of a
postcard when connected via DVI or HDMI, so I have to edit xorg.conf or
I get huge fonts.

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From rpjday at crashcourse.ca  Fri Oct 10 00:38:56 2008
From: rpjday at crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:38:56 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081010003412.GB1116912@hiwaay.net>
References: <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty> <eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223590425.4410.133.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009230805.GC3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081010003412.GB1116912@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <20081009203856.ifh3s0lg4koog400@crashcourse.ca>

Quoting Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>:

> Once upon a time, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> said:
>> In the future, where the norm is no X config, crap like this wouldn't be
>> accepted and wouldn't be here to deal with.
>
> For some unknown reason, X thinks my 24" monitor is the size of a
> postcard when connected via DVI or HDMI, so I have to edit xorg.conf or
> I get huge fonts.

i had that very problem today with a samsung syncmaster 245T flat panel.
hooked it up to my WUXGA laptop via DVI, and was rewarded with my poor
laptop being driven to a video setting involving *massive* font size,
apparently due to totally stupid EDID info being supplied by the monitor
(which claimed to be able to handle 1920x540 or 640x480).

that was thoroughly annoying, and i blame samsung for releasing a $600
WUXGA display on the world that is so hopelessly misconfigured.

rday



From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Fri Oct 10 00:44:41 2008
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:44:41 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <20081010004441.GC1116912@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com> said:
> I don't want to comment on the NetworkManager -- works pretty 
> decently for me (certainly much better than whatever else I used 
> in the past) -- but I want to emphasize a small fact that 
> /etc/hal/fdi/ is and /etc subdirectory, so you (or anybody else) 
> can have their specific configuration there.

There seems to be a lack of information on how to do things though.  For
example, when I asked about how to configure serial port ownership (to
replace console.perms), I got a thread with a bunch of discussion, but I
couldn't figure out a way to do it.

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Fri Oct 10 00:46:42 2008
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:46:42 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081009203856.ifh3s0lg4koog400@crashcourse.ca>
References: <20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223590425.4410.133.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009230805.GC3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081010003412.GB1116912@hiwaay.net>
	<20081009203856.ifh3s0lg4koog400@crashcourse.ca>
Message-ID: <20081010004642.GD1116912@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> said:
> that was thoroughly annoying, and i blame samsung for releasing a $600
> WUXGA display on the world that is so hopelessly misconfigured.

When I hook up via VGA, I get the right screen size.  Windows also
somehow seemed to figure it out without a problem.
-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 01:44:26 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:44:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081009 changes
Message-ID: <20081010014426.476551B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu Oct  9 20:53:09 UTC 2008

New package chktex
        LaTex semantic checker
New package kde-plasma-quickaccess
        Plasma applet for quick access to the most used folders
New package perl-Module-Inspector
        Integrated API for inspecting Perl distributions
New package perl-ORLite
        Extremely light weight SQLite-specific ORM
New package rubygem-gettext
        RubyGem of Localization Library and Tools for Ruby
New package screenruler
        GNOME screen ruler
Removed package gruler
Removed package ruby-gettext-package
Updated Packages:

MAKEDEV-3.23-7
--------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 3.23-7
- Add bootup speed up patch from Jakub


PackageKit-0.3.6-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.6-3
- Add a patch from upstream to fix rh#466290


PyAmanith-0.3.35-4.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 0.3.35-4
- rebuild to prove it builds


anaconda-11.4.1.45-1
--------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.45-1
- Fix sorting of repos so we always return an integer value (#466174).
  (clumens)
- Change the upgrade progress bar to pulse (#466053). (clumens)
- Mark iscsi disks not used for / as autostart (rh461840) (hans)
- Always display the wait window when fetching repo information. (clumens)
- Lazily unmount everything before killing NetworkManager (#463959).
  (clumens)
- lang-names really does need to depend on subdirs (katzj)
- Reset targetLang on language change (#465981) (katzj)
- Honor static net parameters with NM (#465270) (dcantrell)


bsd-games-2.17-24.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Wart <wart at kobold.org> 2.17-24
- Temporarily set patch fuzz factor until patches can be rebased.


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.1.svn1342_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1342


cheese-2.24.0-2.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> 2.24.0-2
- Save space


cluster-2.99.10-6.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Fabio M. Di Nitto <fdinitto at redhat.com> - 2.99.10-6
- cman init: add fix from upstream for cman_tool wrong path.


condor-7.0.5-1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 <matt at redhat> - 7.0.5-1
- Rebased on 7.0.5, security update


control-center-2.24.0.1-5.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0.1-5
- Change the default key combination to change keyboard layouts
  to shift-capslock, since alt-alt doesn't work (#465403)


coreutils-6.12-13.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> - 6.12-13
- remove unimplemented (never accepted by upstream) option
  for chcon changes only. Removed from help and man.
- remove ugly lzma hack as lzma is now supported by setup
  macro


cpuspeed-1.5-1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 1.5-1
- Update to v1.5 release


createrepo-0.9.5-5.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.5-5
- Do atomic updates to the cachedir, for parallel runs
- Fix the patch


dasher-4.9.0-2.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 4.9.0-2
- Save some space


desktop-backgrounds-9.0.0-2
---------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 9.0.0-2
- own /usr/share/wallpapers


drupal-6.5-1.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 6.5-1
- Upgrade to 6.5, SA-2008-060.
- Added notes to README and drupal.conf re CVE-2008-3661.


e2fsprogs-1.41.2-2.fc10
-----------------------

ekiga-3.0.0-4.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 3.0.0-4
- Save some space


enblend-3.2-2.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Bruno Postle <bruno at postle.net> - 3.2-2
- don't package /usr/share/info/dir

* Tue Sep 23 18:00:00 2008 Bruno Postle <bruno at postle.net> - 3.2-1
- upstream release


eog-2.24.0-2.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Save some space


epiphany-2.24.0.1-4.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0.1-4
- Save some more space


evolution-2.24.0-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-3
- Save space in the -help package by not shipping multiple copies
  of each screenshot


fedora-ds-base-1.1.3-5.fc10
---------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Rich Megginson <rmeggins at redhat.com> - 1.1.3-5
- updated update to patch bug463991-bdb47.patch

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Rich Megginson <rmeggins at redhat.com> - 1.1.3-4
- updated patch bug463991-bdb47.patch


fotoxx-5.4-1.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Nicoleau Fabien <nicoleau.fabien at gmail.com> - 5.4-1
- Rebuild for 5.4


gcc-4.3.2-6
-----------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat.com> 4.3.2-6
- fix fallouts from the -g -O0 debugging patch (#466169, #466198)

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat.com> 4.3.2-5
- update from gcc-4_3-branch
  - PRs c++/37555, c/35712, c/37645, fortran/35770, fortran/35945,
	fortran/36374, fortran/36454, fortran/36700, fortran/37274,
	fortran/37504, fortran/37580, fortran/37583, fortran/37626,
	fortran/37706, middle-end/36575, middle-end/37236, middle-end/37731,
	rtl-optimization/37544, target/35620, target/35713, target/37603,
	tree-opt/35737, tree-optimization/36343, tree-optimization/37539
- ensure one can put breakpoints on break, continue and goto statements
  with -g -O0 (#465824, PRs debug/29609, debug/36690, debug/37616)
- emit one DW_TAG_common_block for each common block in each scope, not
  one for each common block in one CU (#465974, PR debug/37738)
- Intel -maes and -mpclmul support


ghdl-0.27-0.110svn.1.fc10
-------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Sailer <t.sailer at alumni.ethz.ch> - 0.27-0.110svn.1
- rebuild


gimp-2.6.0-3.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 2:2.6.0-3
- split off help browser plugin
- let gimp and gimp-help-browser obsolete older gimp versions to allow seamless
  upgrades


gnash-0.8.3-6.fc10
------------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.8.3-6
- use the KDE 3 executable with the KDE 4 KPart for now (making this conditional
  so it can easily be disabled or removed once the KDE 4 executable is fixed)

* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.8.3-5
- register KComponentData properly in KDE 4 KPart

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.8.3-4
- KDE 4 port of klash by Benjamin Wolsey and Bernhard Rosenkr??nzer

* Fri Aug 29 18:00:00 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> 0.8.3-3
- include %_libdir/gnash directory


gnome-applet-netspeed-0.15-3.fc10
---------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Julian Sikorski <belegdol[at]gmail[dot]com> - 0.15-3
- Added patch fixing off-by-one error from SVN trunk (fixes gnome bug #554339)


gnome-packagekit-0.3.6-3.fc10
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 0.3.6-3
- Another space-saving hack


gnome-panel-2.24.0-6.fc10
-------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode  <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-6
- Hide shutdown item if unavailable

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-5
- Don't show menuitems which fail the tryexec test


gnome-power-manager-2.24.0-6.fc10
---------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-6
- Enable policy kit support

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-5
- Save some more space


gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-20.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.19.1-20
- Remove gtkspell-static patch.  Appears to not be needed anymore.

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.19.1-19
- Add build requirements to get this building again.

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.19.1-18
- Add Requires: gnome-python2-gnome.

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.19.1-17
* Rebuild against gecko-devel-unstable-1.9.0.2.


gnome-session-2.24.0-7.fc10
---------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-7
- Add new api for panel to figure out whether or not to show
  Shutdown menu item.


gnome-system-monitor-2.24.0-3.fc10
----------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-3
- Add a TryExec line to about-this-computer.desktop

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Save some space


gtk-vnc-0.3.7-3.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com> - 0.3.7-3.fc10
- Avoid bogus framebuffer updates for psuedo-encodings
- Fix scancode translation for evdev


gtk2-2.14.3-6.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.14.3-6
- Fix a problem with file chooser buttons


gucharmap-2.24.0-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Save some space


hal-0.5.12-2.20081001git.fc10
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-2.20081001git
- Add a patch from the mailing list to fix rh#466150


hercules-3.05-7.20081009cvs.fc10
--------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Dan Horak <dan[at]danny.cz> 3.05-7.20081009cvs
- update to CVS snapshot 20081009 (#461044)
- install utils only as docs
- little cleanup

* Thu Apr 10 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jwilson at redhat.com> 3.05-5
- Point to new project URL
- Add a template generic.prm matching provided hercules.cnf


hugin-0.7.0-1.fc10
------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Bruno Postle <bruno at postle.net> 0.7.0-1
- 0.7.0 release


ibus-m17n-0.1.1.20081009-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081009-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081009.


icu4j-3.8.1-4.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0:3.8.1-4
- Disable debuginfo package when built with Eclipse support, change to
  noarch when built without it (#464017).


ipod-sharp-0.8.1-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Sep 12 18:00:00 2008 David Nielsen <gnomeuser at gmail.com> - 0.8.1-1
- bump to 0.8.1


jabberd-2.2.4-1.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Adrian Reber <adrian at lisas.de> - 2.2.4-1
- updated to 2.2.4
  (this version and pidgin 2.5.1 finally work together)


jd-2.0.3-0.1.svn2382_trunk.fc10
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 2382


kde-filesystem-4-20.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4-20
- /usr/share/wallpapers owned by desktop-backgrounds-basic


kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-3.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Luk???? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> 4.1.2-3
- fix crash when invoking a klipper command for a second time


kdelibs-4.1.2-3.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4.1.2-3
- backport fix for google maps


kernel-2.6.27-0.408.rc9.git1.fc10
---------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com>
- Add in latest ext4 patch queue - rename to ext4 as well.

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- Work around VMWares busted mptfusion emulation again. (#466071)

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- Reenable a bunch of PPC config options that broke earlier.

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- Fix DEBUG_SHIRQ problem in tulip driver.  (#454575)

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- radeon - hopefully fix suspend/resume - reenable HW migration

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Roland McGrath <roland at redhat.com>
- Fix build ID fiddling magic. (#465873)

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27-rc9-git1


kita-0.177.5-2.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 0.177.5-2
- Fix sparc64 build


krazy2-2.6-6.20081008svn869261.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Ben Boeckel <MathStuf at gmail.com> 2.6-6.20081008svn869261
- Updated SVN
- Patch applied upstream


libXNVCtrl-169.12-2.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> 169.12-2
- make sure libdir is set right on sparc64


libchewing-0.3.1-0.fc10
-----------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 0.3.1-0
- Upstream update.


libopensync-plugin-gnokii-0.36-2.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 0.36-2
- rebuild for new gnokii


libxslt-1.1.24-2.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Daniel Veillard <veillard at redhat.com> 1.1.24-2.fc10
- CVE-2008-2935 fix


mapnik-0.5.2-0.7.svn738.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Balint Cristian <rezso at rdsor.ro> - 0.5.2-0.7.svn738
- require desktop-utils in koji

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Balint Cristian <rezso at rdsor.ro> - 0.5.2-0.6.svn738
- fix self dependency build for viewer

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Balint Cristian <rezso at rdsor.ro> - 0.5.2-0.5.svn738
- enable viewer application for mapnik's xml templates
- exclude viewer from demo than


mesa-7.2-0.7.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Kristian H??gsberg <krh at redhat.com> - 7.2-0.7
- Actually add patch.

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Kristian H??gsberg <krh at redhat.com> - 7.2-0.6
- Fix black shadows in compiz (fix from Eric Anholt, bugs.fd.o #17233)


mkinitrd-6.0.66-1.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 6.0.66-1
- Fix incorrect size allocation when probing weird scsi devices (#440661)


mousetweaks-2.24.0-2.fc10
-------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Save some space


nethogs-0.7-4.20080627cvs.fc10
------------------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.7-4.20080627cvs
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


nsd-3.1.1-1.fc10
----------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Paul Wouters <paul at xelerance.com> - 3.1.1-1
- updated to 3.1.1


ntp-4.2.4p5-2.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar at redhat.com> 4.2.4p5-2
- retry failed name resolution few times before giving up (#460561)
- don't write drift file upon exit
- run ntpq with full path in ntp-wait script


numpy-1.2.0-1.fc10
------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> 1.2.0-1
- New upstream release, added python-nose BR. BZ 465999.
- Using atlas blas, not blas-devel. BZ 461472.


openvrml-0.17.9-1.0.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Braden McDaniel  <braden at endoframe.com> - 0.17.9-1.0
- Updated to 0.17.9.
- Removed patch to remove GTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED.

* Thu Aug 28 18:00:00 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org>
- Include two directories in -player pkg.


pam_mount-0.49-1.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Till Maas <opensource at till.name> - 0.49-1
- Update to new release


paprefs-0.9.7-3.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 0.9.7-3
- Handle locales properly


pavucontrol-0.9.7-3.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> 0.9.7-3
- Handle locales properly


perl-Panotools-Script-0.19-1.fc10
---------------------------------
* Fri Sep 19 18:00:00 2008 Bruno Postle <bruno at postle.net> 0.19-1
- New upstream version

* Thu Sep 11 18:00:00 2008 Bruno Postle <bruno at postle.net> 0.17-1
- New upstream version

* Tue Sep  2 18:00:00 2008 Bruno Postle <bruno at postle.net> 0.16-1
- New upstream version

* Sun Jul  6 18:00:00 2008 Bruno Postle <bruno at postle.net> 0.15-1
- New upstream version


php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.1-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 3.3.1-1
- Upstream sync

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 3.2.21-1
- Upstream sync
- Add php-xml to Requires (bz #464758)


php-pear-Validate-Finance-CreditCard-0.5.3-1.fc10
-------------------------------------------------
* Fri Sep 12 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 0.5.3-1
- Upstream sync


php-pear-XML-Beautifier-1.2.0-1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Christohper Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 1.2.0-1
- Upstream sync
- Update license to BSD


php-pear-XML-Util-1.2.0-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 1.2.0-1
- Upstream sync
- Update License
- Add new testdir to %files


php-pecl-xdebug-2.0.3-4.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 2.0.3-4
- Add code coverage patch (bz #460348)
- http://bugs.xdebug.org/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000344

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 2.0.3-3
- Revert last change

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 2.0.3-2
- Add php-xml to Requires (bz #464758)


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.08.1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.5.0-0.2008.10.08.1
- Rework how "console=" args done again, to hopefully fix
  bug 460565


poker-network-1.6.0-2.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 1.6.0-2
- Update bot patch (bz #464986)


pulseaudio-0.9.13-2.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthhias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 0.9.13-2
- Handle locales properly


pungi-2.0.6-1.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 2.0.6-1
- Handle %packages --default to pick up the default groups.
- Set iso name to be the same as --name
- Make sure we don't include the 'sha1:' in the iso SHA1SUM file.
- Fix .treeinfo to have proper case in file names


pyclutter-0.8.0-0.1.20081008r3353.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.8.0-0.1.20081008r3353
- Update to SVN snapshot of pyclutter 0.8 until official release comes out.
- Fixes broken deps.

* Thu Sep 11 18:00:00 2008 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 0.6.2-4
- Rebuild for new clutter

* Thu Aug 28 18:00:00 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 0.6.2-3
- Fix unowned directory


pymetar-0.14-1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Saou <http://freshrpms.net/> 0.14-1
- Update to 0.14.
- Include patch to remove no longer existing files from trying to be installed.


python-bugzilla-0.4-0.rc3.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com> 0.4.0.rc3
- Add updateperms() - patch courtesy of Jon Stanley
- Fix attachfile() for RHBugzilla3
- Actually install man page. Whoops.


python-genshi-0.5.1-2.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 0.5.1-2
- Add patch from upstream that fixes problems when using Genshi in
- conjuction with Babel.


qt3-3.3.8b-17.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 3.3.8b-17
- update qt-x11-immodule-unified-qt3 patch

* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 3.3.8b-16
- mv translations in main package (bz#448761)


rdma-1.0-3.fc10
---------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Doug Ledford <dledford at redhat.com> - 1.0-3
- Add the ifup-ib script so we support connected mode on ib interfaces


rhythmbox-0.11.6-13.5966.fc10
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 0.11.6-13.r5966
- Save some space


roundcubemail-0.2-3.beta.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> = 0.2-3.beta
- New upstream.


ruby-1.8.6.287-2.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 1.8.6.287-2
- CVE-2008-3790: DoS vulnerability in the REXML module.


ruby-aws-0.4.4-1.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 0.4.4-1
- 0.4.4


ruby-mechanize-0.8.4-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 0.8.4-1
- 0.8.4


seahorse-2.24.0-3.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 2.24.0-3
- Save some space


seahorse-plugins-2.24.0-4.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 2.24.0-4
- Save some space


seamonkey-1.1.12-1.fc10
-----------------------

sectool-0.9.0-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Peter Vrabec <pvrabec at redhat.com> - 0.9.0-1
- upgrade, see changelog for changes


sim-0.9.5-0.13.20080923svn2261rev.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Pavel Alexeev <Pahan [ at ] Hubbitus [ DOT ] spb [ dOt.] su> - 0.9.5-0.13.20080923svn2261rev
- %bcond_with kde replaced to %bcond_without for default build kde support (Patrice Dumas)

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Pavel Alexeev <Pahan [ at ] Hubbitus [ DOT ] spb [ dOt.] su> - 0.9.5-0.12.20080923svn2261rev
- Remove $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/%{_datadir}/mimelnk/application/x-icq.desktop in %install section for Fedora 8


squid-3.0.STABLE7-4.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 7:3.0.STABLE7-4
- change logrotate to move instead of copytruncate

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 7:3.0.STABLE7-3
- fix #465052 -  FTBFS squid-3.0.STABLE7-1.fc10

* Thu Aug 14 18:00:00 2008 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 7:3.0.STABLE7-2
- used ncsa_auth.8 from man-pages. there will be this file removed due to conflict
- fix #458593 noisy initscript
- fix #463129 init script tests wrong conf file
- fix #450352 - build.patch patches only generated files


swfdec-gnome-2.24.0-2.fc10
--------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Do the intltool dance

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-1
- Update to 2.24.0


system-config-language-1.3.2-2.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Pravin Satpute <psatpute at redhat.com>- 1.3.2-2
- fix bug 462914


tclparser-1.4-5.20061030cvs.fc10
--------------------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 1.4-5.20061030cvs
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


tcltls-1.6-1.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Sander Hoentjen <sander at hoentjen.eu> - 1.6-1
- Update to latest release


tomboy-0.12.0-2.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 0.12.0-2
- Save some space


totem-2.24.2-2.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.2-2
- Save some space


vinagre-2.24.0-2.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Save some space


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-22.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 6.9.0-22
- radeon-6.9.0-lvds-mapping.patch: Fix connector mapping on LVDS.


yaboot-1.3.14-5.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Aug 11 18:00:00 2008 Roman Rakus <rrakus at redhat.com> - 1.3.14-5
- Clearing in specfile
- Fixed patches for --fuzz=0

* Wed May 28 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.3.14-4
- fix license tag


zenity-2.24.0-2.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Save some space


Summary:
Added Packages: 6
Removed Packages: 2
Modified Packages: 105
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.i386 requires libbluetooth.so.2
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.x86_64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc requires libbluetooth.so.2
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	livecd-tools-018-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From scott at web-ster.com  Fri Oct 10 01:51:35 2008
From: scott at web-ster.com (Scott S.)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:51:35 -0700
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
Message-ID: <48EEB527.4090901@web-ster.com>

Hello,

I have received my XO and it seems excellent. I just have it out of the 
box and will be trying to boot it soon. I work at my local ISP and we 
all love Fedora. We run mostly Fedora servers and a Fedora mirror. I 
have been looking forward to this project and am happy to be a part of 
it. I hope to contribute and give back to the Fedora project as much as 
I am able.

Thank You,

Scott S. (AKA Scooty)



From sandeen at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 03:45:50 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:45:50 -0500
Subject: XO: livecd-iso-to-disk.sh on rhel5 seems problematic
Message-ID: <48EECFEE.3090203@redhat.com>

I was trying to use Jeremy's livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script w/ the
olpc-gnome.iso to get my XO up and running and it got very weird boot
failures:

Stuff like "<buffer at 800000>:2: Can't find word to replace"
and "Can't open boot device"

Running the script on an F8 box got it going properly.

I'm not sure what the problem is at this point but just in case anyone
else has had the same trouble...

-Eric



From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 04:24:46 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:24:46 -0500
Subject: Lost "Fedora 8/9 updates-testing report" messages
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810092124h1e06fe84g54ce71f898901640@mail.gmail.com>

Unless I am mistaken, there has not been an updates-testing report
since before the implementation of the new repo key. Will they be
re-instated sometime?

Thanks,
jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 10 04:29:29 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:29:29 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081010042929.GA4884@wolff.to>

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:36:33 -0700,
  Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:33 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > There is a small fly in this ointment.  The above may work, usually,
> > but very far from always.  For example, if monitor EDID data are
> > faulty or not present at all, and this is _not_ a hypothetical
> > situation, then a configuration you are getting is busted.  Also
> > something which is possible, and even "correct" in some sense, does
> > not need to be optimal/desired in a given situation.
> 
> Perfect is the enemy of good.
> 
> Ajax has in the past asked for /anybody/ to provide him situations where
> the EDID is bogus.

I have had a ticket open since last February where the driver ignores
a monitor because it doesn't do EDID and ends up not sending any signal to
the DVI port (I suspect it is getting sent to the VGA port). I have to
patch xorg-x11-drv-ati everytime a new version becomes available. This
actually works pretty well, but is still annoying.



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 08:33:06 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:33:06 +0200
Subject: Screen is dimmed....
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810070728s11e9c791hdd0020fd31885fc5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070346s4a4cb3fdvc9f662dd049c2d07@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EB6E4F.1090506@sbcglobal.net>
	<4c37b6af0810070728s11e9c791hdd0020fd31885fc5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810100133p38d40768w4a27104d739e6fe0@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/7 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/7 Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net>:
>> Antonio M wrote:
>>>
>>> when I start any video player on F10 my screen is dimmed on my laptop,
>>> as energy manager would understand that is running on battery even if
>>> I am connected to the wall socket!!!
>>> This started after latest kernel updates: to recover from it I must
>>> log out and then log in.
>>> Any idea?? shall I file a bug (I guess against kernel..)???
>>>
>>>
>>
>> does your problem cover this Bug# 465577
>>
>> --
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>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
> sure about the Bug number???
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

even with 2.6.27-0.408.rc9.git1.fc10.i686 kernel, I have same issue....

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From lmacken at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 08:59:38 2008
From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:59:38 -0400
Subject: Lost "Fedora 8/9 updates-testing report" messages
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810092124h1e06fe84g54ce71f898901640@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d06ce20810092124h1e06fe84g54ce71f898901640@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081010085938.GA3221@x300>

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:24:46PM -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> Unless I am mistaken, there has not been an updates-testing report
> since before the implementation of the new repo key. Will they be
> re-instated sometime?

Yes, they'll be coming back.  Bodhi hit a regression with regard to the
updates-testing digest mails, and I haven't had a chance to look into
exactly why.  I'll look into this more tomorrow.

luke



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 09:04:35 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:04:35 +0200
Subject: Udev updated
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810100204n143d408byec7b1c1bec16b839@mail.gmail.com>

After this morning updates :
I get a list of messages at boot-time saying that udev cannot create
loop1, loop2, loop3, and lp1, lp2
(I cannot find same messages in dmesg...)
When I log in for the first time user is immediately logged out and
the login window is re-presented: since then everything is fine.

What component is to be filed for bug?? kernel or udev???

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 09:06:36 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:06:36 +0200
Subject: The Gimp2.6.0 in Fedora10?
In-Reply-To: <1222918105.5211.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1222918105.5211.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810100206v115b08d0udbc94105f845f227@mail.gmail.com>

It already is! ;)

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:28 AM, greg <spowd at bigpond.com> wrote:
> any chances of Gimp 2.6.0 getting into Fedora10?
> --
> Regards Greg
>
> http://www.fedoraforum.org/?
>
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



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From caf at omen.com  Fri Oct 10 09:08:21 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:08:21 -0700
Subject: Current Rawhide can't read Partition Table
Message-ID: <48EF1B85.6060200@omen.com>

The i386 and x86_64 rawhides rsynced just now cannot read the
first drive's partition table on an Intel DG45ID motherboard.
It offered to initialize the partition table, an offer I refused.

I recently upgraded to the Intel DG45ID motherboard after
the line out on the old motherboard died. 

The FC10 beta live disk locks up the machine.  The current
Lenny weekly build install scrambles the video.  OpenSUSE 11.0
installs but neither Compiz nor ethernet work.  The newly
released Mandriva installs a system with ethernet and compiz
working but no sound so far.  Sound worked on Fedora 9,
but not compiz or ethernet.

The same pxeboot install is proceeding normally on an old
a8n-e  based system.

FWIW the DG45ID has a 192 kHz audio system but no IDE,
floppy, or PS2 connectors.

-- 
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Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From spowd at bigpond.com  Fri Oct 10 09:42:05 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (Greg)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:42:05 +1100
Subject: The Gimp2.6.0 in Fedora10?
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810100206v115b08d0udbc94105f845f227@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1222918105.5211.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<64b14b300810100206v115b08d0udbc94105f845f227@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EF236D.4090305@bigpond.com>

On 10/10/2008 8:06 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> It already is! ;)
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:28 AM, greg<spowd at bigpond.com>  wrote:
>    
>> any chances of Gimp 2.6.0 getting into Fedora10?
>> --
>> Regards Greg
>>
>> http://www.fedoraforum.org/?
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>>      
>
>
>
>    
bit late that reply Valent but thanks anyway



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 10:35:56 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:35:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081010 changes
Message-ID: <20081010103556.31A411B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri Oct 10 06:01:09 UTC 2008

Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.4.1.47-1
--------------------

exaile-0.2.14-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Deji Akingunola <dakingun at gmail.com> - 0.2.14-1
- Update to 0.2.14

* Fri Jul 11 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.2.13-3
- fix license tag


gnome-session-2.24.0-8.fc10
---------------------------

jd-2.0.3-0.1.svn2386_trunk.fc10
-------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 2386


kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-4
- backport panel autohide from 4.2 / plasma-4.1-openSUSE


kernel-2.6.27-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com>
- Fix the return code CD accesses when the CDROM drive door is closed
  but the drive isn't yet ready.

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com>
- Fix for xfs wrongly disabling barriers while running.

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27-rc9-git2

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- 2.6.27

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
- x86: switch to UP mode when only one CPU is present at boot time


monotorrent-0.50-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 0.50-1
- bump to the latest and greatest
- upstream version number fix


nagios-plugins-1.4.13-8.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> 1.4.13-8
- Rebuilt with a proper patch

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> 1.4.13-7
- Added changed recent permission changes to allow nagios group to execute

* Wed Oct  8 18:00:00 2008 Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> 1.4.13-6
- Fixed up some permission issues


nspr-4.7.1-5.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 4.7.1-5
- forgot to cvs add patch... whoops. :/

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 4.7.1-4
- properly handle sparc64 in nspr code


perl-File-Copy-Recursive-0.37-1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Cors??pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org> - 0.37-1
- Upstream update.


scim-1.4.7-34.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 1.4.7-34
- require im-chooser (#466252)
- add scim-thai to the Thai meta package


system-config-lvm-1.1.4-3.0.fc10
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> 1.1.4-3.0
- Fix up BuildRequires

* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> 1.1.4-2.0
- Properly install the desktop file (#442910)


thunderbird-2.0.0.17-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> 2.0.0.17-1
- Update to 2.0.0.17


uim-1.5.3-1.fc10
----------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 1.5.3-1
- New upstream release.
- Add im-chooser to Requires again.

* Fri Aug 29 18:00:00 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 1.5.2-2
- Include directories /usr/share/uim/pixmaps and /usr/share/uim/lib


xl2tpd-1.2.0-1.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Paul Wouters <paul at xelerance.com> - 1.2.0-1
- Updated to new upstream release


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-25.fc10
------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-25
- fix rotation
- make output names compatible with non-kms

* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-24
- radeon-modeset.patch - fix silly debugging fallback.

* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-23
- rebase to upstream master
- radeon-6.9.0-lvds-mapping.patch - merged upstream
- copy-fb-contents.patch merged into modesetting tree.


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 16
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.i386 requires libbluetooth.so.2
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.x86_64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc requires libbluetooth.so.2
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	asterisk-mobile-1.6.0-0.21.beta9.fc10.ppc64 requires libbluetooth.so.2()(64bit)
	livecd-tools-018-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 12:02:36 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:02:36 -0500
Subject: f9 update fails on bluez-libs >= 3.36
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810100502t4847e5d7q12a33cce22903c07@mail.gmail.com>

Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package bluez-utils.i386 0:3.36-1.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 for package: bluez-utils
---> Package bluez-utils-cups.i386 0:3.36-1.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 for package: bluez-utils-cups
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
bluez-utils-cups-3.36-1.fc9.i386 from updates-testing-newkey has
depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
bluez-utils-cups-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
bluez-utils-3.36-1.fc9.i386 from updates-testing-newkey has depsolving
problems
  --> Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
bluez-utils-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
bluez-utils-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
bluez-utils-cups-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 12:54:27 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:54:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot 
Message-ID: <876465.2304.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers, 

new kernel does not boot on ext4dev machine, should I file a bug, when I boot up I get:

Creating root device.
Mounting root filesystems.
mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext4dev:  No such device
Setting up other filesystems.
setuproot: moving /dev/ failed:  No such file or directory
setuproot: error mounting /proc:  No such file or directory
setuproot: error mounting /sys:  No such file or directory
Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux:  No such file or directory
Switching to new root and runing init.
switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory
Booting has failed.

Thanks for advice/suggestions

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Fri Oct 10 12:54:49 2008
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:54:49 +0200
Subject: f9 update fails on bluez-libs >= 3.36
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810100502t4847e5d7q12a33cce22903c07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d06ce20810100502t4847e5d7q12a33cce22903c07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081010145449.34620b34.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:02:36 -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:

> Setting up Update Process
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package bluez-utils.i386 0:3.36-1.fc9 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 for package: bluez-utils
> ---> Package bluez-utils-cups.i386 0:3.36-1.fc9 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 for package: bluez-utils-cups
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> bluez-utils-cups-3.36-1.fc9.i386 from updates-testing-newkey has
> depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
> bluez-utils-cups-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
> bluez-utils-3.36-1.fc9.i386 from updates-testing-newkey has depsolving
> problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
> bluez-utils-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
> bluez-utils-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
> bluez-utils-cups-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-8707



From itamar at ispbrasil.com.br  Fri Oct 10 12:58:52 2008
From: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br (Itamar - IspBrasil)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:58:52 -0300
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <876465.2304.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <876465.2304.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48EF518C.9050702@ispbrasil.com.br>

this is caused because ext4dev was renamed to ext4,

have you tried to rebuild initrd with ext4 module ?



On 10/10/2008 9:54 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
>
> new kernel does not boot on ext4dev machine, should I file a bug, when I boot up I get:
>
> Creating root device.
> Mounting root filesystems.
> mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext4dev:  No such device
> Setting up other filesystems.
> setuproot: moving /dev/ failed:  No such file or directory
> setuproot: error mounting /proc:  No such file or directory
> setuproot: error mounting /sys:  No such file or directory
> Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux:  No such file or directory
> Switching to new root and runing init.
> switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory
> Booting has failed.
>
> Thanks for advice/suggestions
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
>    




From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 12:59:25 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:59:25 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty> <eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223590425.4410.133.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009230805.GC3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081010003412.GB1116912@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <d604s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-10, 00:34 GMT, Chris Adams wrote:
> For some unknown reason, X thinks my 24" monitor is the size of 
> a postcard when connected via DVI or HDMI, so I have to edit 
> xorg.conf or I get huge fonts.

And number of the bug in bugzilla.redhat.com is?

Matej



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 10 12:26:50 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:26:50 +0000
Subject: f9 update fails on bluez-libs >= 3.36
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810100502t4847e5d7q12a33cce22903c07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d06ce20810100502t4847e5d7q12a33cce22903c07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EF4A0A.2080708@hi.is>

Jerry Amundson wrote:
> Setting up Update Process
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package bluez-utils.i386 0:3.36-1.fc9 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 for package: bluez-utils
> ---> Package bluez-utils-cups.i386 0:3.36-1.fc9 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 for package: bluez-utils-cups
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> bluez-utils-cups-3.36-1.fc9.i386 from updates-testing-newkey has
> depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
> bluez-utils-cups-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
> bluez-utils-3.36-1.fc9.i386 from updates-testing-newkey has depsolving
> problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
> bluez-utils-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
> bluez-utils-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
> Error: Missing Dependency: bluez-libs >= 3.36 is needed by package
> bluez-utils-cups-3.36-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing-newkey)
>
>   
Same here..

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From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 10 13:04:18 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:04:18 +0000
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <876465.2304.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <876465.2304.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48EF52D2.4070501@hi.is>

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow testers, 
>
> new kernel does not boot on ext4dev machine, should I file a bug, when I boot up I get:
>
> Creating root device.
> Mounting root filesystems.
> mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext4dev:  No such device
> Setting up other filesystems.
> setuproot: moving /dev/ failed:  No such file or directory
> setuproot: error mounting /proc:  No such file or directory
> setuproot: error mounting /sys:  No such file or directory
> Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux:  No such file or directory
> Switching to new root and runing init.
> switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory
> Booting has failed.
>
> Thanks for advice/suggestions
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio 
>
>
>       
>
>   
There  is actually a newer kernel in koji you could try that one.

But I saw this couple of day's ago before I wiped out the installations
for some anaconda testing then it did not work on ext3, ext3 encrypted 
and ext4 encrypted
( Propably I keept these 3 installation equally updated ) but I did not 
encounter it on an unencrypted ext4
installation ( probably because I had not updated but I did at that time 
and I did not hit that error) .

Dont think these errors are filesystem related.

JBG
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From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 13:07:15 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:07:15 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223590425.4410.133.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009230805.GC3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009234658.GE3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223596367.4410.143.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081010000932.GA13256@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <3l04s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-10, 00:09 GMT, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> No, it is not funny at all and I did that on purpose.  Because
> NM is really good _when_ it works correctly.  The problem is
> those situations when it does not work but and the general
> approach looks like "most everybody is happy and down with
> malcontents".

No, it is not general approach -- these are bugs and are they 
fixed all the time.

Matej



From jwboyer at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 13:13:51 2008
From: jwboyer at gmail.com (Josh Boyer)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:13:51 -0400
Subject: rawhide report: 20081010 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081010103556.31A411B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
References: <20081010103556.31A411B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081010131351.GA12035@yoda.jdub.homelinux.org>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:35:56AM +0000, Rawhide Report wrote:
>Compose started at Fri Oct 10 06:01:09 UTC 2008
>kernel-2.6.27-1.fc10
>--------------------
>* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com>
>- Fix the return code CD accesses when the CDROM drive door is closed
>  but the drive isn't yet ready.
>
>* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com>
>- Fix for xfs wrongly disabling barriers while running.
>
>* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
>- 2.6.27-rc9-git2
>
>* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
>- 2.6.27
>
>* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
>- x86: switch to UP mode when only one CPU is present at boot time

SHENANIGANS!

I think whatever script is creating this is screwing up the
ordering and timestamps of the changelogs.  Every timestamp for
every package is 18:00:00, which cannot possibly be true.

josh



From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 13:00:44 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:00:44 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty> <eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223590425.4410.133.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009230805.GC3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081010003412.GB1116912@hiwaay.net>
	<20081009203856.ifh3s0lg4koog400@crashcourse.ca>
Message-ID: <s804s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-10, 00:38 GMT, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> i had that very problem today with a samsung syncmaster 245T 
> flat panel. hooked it up to my WUXGA laptop via DVI, and was 
> rewarded with my poor laptop being driven to a video setting 
> involving *massive* font size, apparently due to totally stupid 
> EDID info being supplied by the monitor (which claimed to be 
> able to handle 1920x540 or 640x480).
>
> that was thoroughly annoying, and i blame samsung for releasing a $600
> WUXGA display on the world that is so hopelessly misconfigured.

File a bug, please (and attach working /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you 
have one, and certainly whatever /var/log/Xorg.*.log and 
/var/log/dmesg you have).

Matej



From cmadams at hiwaay.net  Fri Oct 10 13:19:55 2008
From: cmadams at hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:19:55 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <d604s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223590425.4410.133.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009230805.GC3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081010003412.GB1116912@hiwaay.net>
	<d604s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <20081010131955.GA1418748@hiwaay.net>

Once upon a time, Matej Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com> said:
> On 2008-10-10, 00:34 GMT, Chris Adams wrote:
> > For some unknown reason, X thinks my 24" monitor is the size of 
> > a postcard when connected via DVI or HDMI, so I have to edit 
> > xorg.conf or I get huge fonts.
> 
> And number of the bug in bugzilla.redhat.com is?

Filed in August:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458747

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 12:58:03 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:58:03 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-09, 23:13 GMT, Scott Robbins wrote:
> I don't think that's practical with Fedora because of its very 
> nature as, more or less, a test bed.  However, things that are 
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^
I would prefer to characterize Fedora as a developer's 
distribution of choice, but whatever.

> relatively drastic changes, such as a removal of xorg.conf, 
> could probably be better announced.  

Note, that xorg.conf was never deprecated (meaning, that you can 
still use it and it is read by Xorg on start) and it was not 
mandatory since Fedora Core 6 (at least since then it was 
considered a bug, when you didn't get functional X when xorg.conf 
was removed).  I don't think we are that hasty.

> What would be great, I think, though I have no idea if it is at 
> all feasible, would be with things like this, to have a line of 
> text appear perhaps, saying, there is no longer a default 
> xorg--if this doesn't work for you, please file a bug with your 
> hardware information.

That's called Release Notes and if we ever remove xorg.conf from 
Fedora, be sure you will be able to read about it there (and in 
many other places). But I don't think that such drastic change 
will happen anytime soon.

> Also please note that you can construct an xorg with xorconfig 
> (if that's still available, I haven't checked--I have been 
> fortunate enough so that I didn't even realize it had been 
> removed.) 

Yes, and there is still system-config-display.

> I think that a lot of the anger users sometimes feel is because these
> things take them by surprise.  Yes, there are lists of changes--they
> aren't always complete, and I suspect many of us just skim through them
> anyway.  However, major changes could perhaps, merit a headsup.  

BTW, there is no class of "you developers" distinct from "us 
users" in the Fedoraland. If you want to help with Release Notes, 
there is a huge need of help with writing them, especially from 
people who are not developers. Take a look at 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Join, pick some Beat, 
and then just hang around particular group of developers (their 
email list, etc.) and write about that.

Best,

Matej Cepl



From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 13:01:52 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:01:52 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty> <eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223590425.4410.133.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009230805.GC3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223594126.4410.136.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009234658.GE3933@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <0b04s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-09, 23:46 GMT, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> This was like that from the very beginning, for quite a while 
> now,  and various bug reports were filed.  And???

And tons of bugs were resolved.

Matej



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 10 13:41:08 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:41:08 +0000
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>
	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>

Matej Cepl wrote:
>> What would be great, I think, though I have no idea if it is at 
>> all feasible, would be with things like this, to have a line of 
>> text appear perhaps, saying, there is no longer a default 
>> xorg--if this doesn't work for you, please file a bug with your 
>> hardware information.
>>     
>
> That's called Release Notes and if we ever remove xorg.conf from 
> Fedora, be sure you will be able to read about it there (and in 
> many other places). But I don't think that such drastic change 
> will happen anytime soon.
>
>   
Nobody reads the release notes
It is time that a certain people or group of people start to realize  that.

A good pointer to that is that nobody complained
when team anaconda removed the release notes in anaconda.

We have to find a better way to get the info ( or least the major ones ) 
to our users.

Floor is open for suggestions..

Keep ideas aimed at people that have no network connection
as in this was a hand out cd/dvd usb key.

>> Also please note that you can construct an xorg with xorconfig 
>> (if that's still available, I haven't checked--I have been 
>> fortunate enough so that I didn't even realize it had been 
>> removed.) 
>>     
>
> Yes, and there is still system-config-display.
>
>   
Note in F10 system-config-display will not get installed by default
so you will need to install it before using it.

JBG
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From denis at poolshark.org  Fri Oct 10 13:44:07 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:44:07 +0200
Subject: rawhide report: 20081010 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081010103556.31A411B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
References: <20081010103556.31A411B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48EF5C27.9000004@poolshark.org>

Rawhide Report wrote:
> gnome-session-2.24.0-8.fc10
> ---------------------------

and that empty changelog should read:

"Fix assertion failure in last patch"

which caused desktop crash when clicking the start button 
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466444).



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 13:45:06 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:15:06 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>
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J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:

> Nobody reads the release notes
> It is time that a certain people or group of people start to realize  that.
> 
> A good pointer to that is that nobody complained
> when team anaconda removed the release notes in anaconda.
> 
> We have to find a better way to get the info ( or least the major ones ) 
> to our users.
> 
> Floor is open for suggestions..

If nobody reads the release notes, nobody can force them to read 
anything else either. Fact is, that some people read it and others 
don't. Feel free to educate them. We have been linking to the release 
notes from the front page of the website for a long time now.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 13:45:13 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:15:13 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>
Message-ID: <48EF5C69.1020403@fedoraproject.org>

J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:

> Nobody reads the release notes
> It is time that a certain people or group of people start to realize  that.
> 
> A good pointer to that is that nobody complained
> when team anaconda removed the release notes in anaconda.
> 
> We have to find a better way to get the info ( or least the major ones ) 
> to our users.
> 
> Floor is open for suggestions..

If nobody reads the release notes, nobody can force them to read 
anything else either. Fact is, that some people read it and others 
don't. Feel free to educate them. We have been linking to the release 
notes from the front page of the website for a long time now.

Rahul



From katzj at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 13:47:46 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:47:46 -0400
Subject: Udev updated
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810100204n143d408byec7b1c1bec16b839@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810100204n143d408byec7b1c1bec16b839@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223646466.19673.179.camel@aglarond.local>

On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 11:04 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> After this morning updates :
> I get a list of messages at boot-time saying that udev cannot create
> loop1, loop2, loop3, and lp1, lp2
> (I cannot find same messages in dmesg...)
> When I log in for the first time user is immediately logged out and
> the login window is re-presented: since then everything is fine.
> 
> What component is to be filed for bug?? kernel or udev???

It's a MAKEDEV bug and it's already filed --
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466385

Jeremy



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 13:53:11 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
Message-ID: <587646.10305.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers,

CPU is hovering at 99 to 100%.  running Top shows plasma is taking it up.  Logging out and back in makes no difference.  Something is wrong with plasma from new updates :(

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 13:55:19 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <48EF518C.9050702@ispbrasil.com.br>
Message-ID: <637380.48839.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Itamar - IspBrasil <itamar at ispbrasil.com.br> wrote:

> From: Itamar - IspBrasil <itamar at ispbrasil.com.br>
> Subject: Re: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 5:58 AM
> this is caused because ext4dev was renamed to ext4,
> 
> have you tried to rebuild initrd with ext4 module ?
>
No :(
Previous kernels booted properly by default.  The updates should just work, should they not?

BTW,
How do I run mkinitrd against new kernel, I have done that only 1 or two times, so I am not very familiar with the process :(

Thank you for answering!  

Regards,

Antonio 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/10/2008 9:54 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > Dear fellow testers,
> >
> > new kernel does not boot on ext4dev machine, should I
> file a bug, when I boot up I get:
> >
> > Creating root device.
> > Mounting root filesystems.
> > mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as
> ext4dev:  No such device
> > Setting up other filesystems.
> > setuproot: moving /dev/ failed:  No such file or
> directory
> > setuproot: error mounting /proc:  No such file or
> directory
> > setuproot: error mounting /sys:  No such file or
> directory
> > Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux:  No such file
> or directory
> > Switching to new root and runing init.
> > switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory
> > Booting has failed.
> >
> > Thanks for advice/suggestions
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antonio
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >


      



From giallu at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 13:56:28 2008
From: giallu at gmail.com (Gianluca Sforna)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:56:28 +0200
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <876465.2304.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <876465.2304.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d5ad21470810100656q4070b38eya42aa5cd91847c5f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Antonio Olivares
<olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
>
> new kernel does not boot on ext4dev machine, should I file a bug, when I boot up I get:

I guess no bug is needed:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/94211



-- 
Gianluca Sforna

http://morefedora.blogspot.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna



From Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil  Fri Oct 10 13:58:53 2008
From: Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil (Todd Denniston)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:58:53 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>
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J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote, On 10/10/2008 09:41 AM:
> Matej Cepl wrote:
>>> What would be great, I think, though I have no idea if it is at all 
>>> feasible, would be with things like this, to have a line of text 
>>> appear perhaps, saying, there is no longer a default xorg--if this 
>>> doesn't work for you, please file a bug with your hardware information.
>>>     
>>
>> That's called Release Notes and if we ever remove xorg.conf from 
>> Fedora, be sure you will be able to read about it there (and in many 
>> other places). But I don't think that such drastic change will happen 
>> anytime soon.
>>
>>   
> Nobody reads the release notes
> It is time that a certain people or group of people start to realize  that.
> 
> A good pointer to that is that nobody complained
> when team anaconda removed the release notes in anaconda.
> 
> We have to find a better way to get the info ( or least the major ones ) 
> to our users.
> 
> Floor is open for suggestions..
> 
> Keep ideas aimed at people that have no network connection
> as in this was a hand out cd/dvd usb key.

And even in Anaconda, IIRC, you did not see it until you were pretty much into 
the install phase.

being able to say have a 'just release notes' and\or 'just MAJOR changes from 
last F' options from the grub/syslinux menus on the CD could be interesting.
Those could be chosen with out the fear of pushing a wrong button and wiping 
out your working system before you really are ready.

> 
>>> Also please note that you can construct an xorg with xorconfig (if 
>>> that's still available, I haven't checked--I have been fortunate 
>>> enough so that I didn't even realize it had been removed.)     
>>
>> Yes, and there is still system-config-display.
>>
>>   
> Note in F10 system-config-display will not get installed by default
> so you will need to install it before using it.
> 

Maybe I did not understand some of the things in the xorg.log I was seeing in 
the recent (12 months) past, but it would be nice to have two options with the 
current Xorg config system:
1) kick out a xorg.conf file based on the detected working settings, i.e, what 
X is going to use without a conf file there.
2) kick out a xorg.conf file based on ALL the detected capabilities, i.e, if 
the video card can use a particular modeline but the monitor does not CLAIM	 
to support it, then still put the modeline in the conf file, and the other way 
around, if monitor supports a resolution/scanrate/whatever that the card does 
not, then still put it in the conf file, so that if the user THINKS they know 
better, then they can select something that is supported instead of trying to 
dis-cypher the data from the xorg.log file.  Of course this conf file should 
be marked top bottom and middle with things indicating 'please put a bug in an 
appropriate zilla, and be careful with what you do here because something 
indicated that the components of your system did not have full matches on 
everything.'

So if those were put into an fedora X bug do you think they would get anything 
but a NOTABUGWONTFIX ?

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 10 14:10:51 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:10:51 +0000
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF5C69.1020403@fedoraproject.org>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>
	<48EF5C69.1020403@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <48EF626B.1040209@hi.is>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
>
>> Nobody reads the release notes
>> It is time that a certain people or group of people start to realize  
>> that.
>>
>> A good pointer to that is that nobody complained
>> when team anaconda removed the release notes in anaconda.
>>
>> We have to find a better way to get the info ( or least the major 
>> ones ) to our users.
>>
>> Floor is open for suggestions..
>
> If nobody reads the release notes, nobody can force them to read 
> anything else either. Fact is, that some people read it and others 
> don't. Feel free to educate them. We have been linking to the release 
> notes from the front page of the website for a long time now.
>
> Rahul
>
I'm feeling free of educating you.

Congrats on the smart way of having a link to the release notes from the 
front page of the website.

Now think of all the handouts of Fedora dvds cd's usb's and conferences etc.

Do we handout release notes... NO WE DON'T!

Does the default startup page in the browser point to the Fedora release 
notes page
for those end users that might have internet connection.

NO IT'S DOES NOT"!

But we have a tiny link to the release notes below the search engine 
<*sight*>

It has been going on for to long that major/drastic changes have been 
buried in the "Release notes"

We have to find a better way of getting the info to our end users.

JBG

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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 14:14:54 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:44:54 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF626B.1040209@hi.is>
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J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> 
> Now think of all the handouts of Fedora dvds cd's usb's and conferences 
> etc.
> 
> Do we handout release notes... NO WE DON'T!

It is part of the fedora release notes package in the distribution. Part 
of the default bookmarks as well.

> Does the default startup page in the browser point to the Fedora release 
> notes page
> for those end users that might have internet connection.
> 
> NO IT'S DOES NOT"!

We did before and it didn't make much of a difference.

> We have to find a better way of getting the info to our end users.

If you have bright ideas, let us know.

Rahul



From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 14:14:06 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:14:06 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
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	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
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	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
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On 2008-10-10, 13:45 GMT, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> If nobody reads the release notes, nobody can force them to 
> read anything else either. Fact is, that some people read it 
> and others don't. Feel free to educate them. We have been 
> linking to the release notes from the front page of the website 
> for a long time now.

Well, the truth is, I don't remember whether we have them still 
available in Anaconda -- are they there?

Matej



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 14:21:31 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:21:31 -0400
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
In-Reply-To: <1223582737.3540.8.camel@Q>
References: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810091314150.7587@localhost.localdomain>
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Adam D. Ligas <adam at physco.com> wrote:
> I'm on WPA2 at home - should I expect trouble with the wireless?  It
> would be a pain to change/re-key everything wireless in the house.

I re-enabled WPA2 and but have not had any luck getting wireless set
up using the suggestions at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/WPA_Manual_Setting

>
> Stupid Question Time:
>
> Should I have trouble with the wireless, could I simply plug in a USB
> wired Ethernet adapter?

Somewhere it says that'll work.

/Blake



From ajax at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 14:23:56 2008
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:23:56 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
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On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:33 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 05:25:34PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> > On 2008-10-08, 22:27 GMT, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > > So, X has achieved the holy grail of no config file by moving
> > > all the config files to a far more obscure place and changing
> > > them to undocumented xml gibberish?
> > 
> > No, the point of this should be that computer will automagically 
> > recognize which device you have and take from the database of 
> > configurations
> 
> There is a small fly in this ointment.  The above may work, usually,
> but very far from always.  For example, if monitor EDID data are
> faulty or not present at all, and this is _not_ a hypothetical
> situation, then a configuration you are getting is busted.  Also
> something which is possible, and even "correct" in some sense, does
> not need to be optimal/desired in a given situation.
> 
> It sounds like another of those "90% solutions" which happen to
> work, more or less, for a developer in her/his particular
> configuration and which are screwing you often enough.
> 
> > (and take a look at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy for 
> > illustration should look like)
> 
> Yes, I had do that on various occasions.  It is never clear
> what to do with this dreaded XML maze or if what you are trying
> to hack even has a chance of working.  Shudder!

Seriously, people.  If there's no xorg.conf file, and you need one, make
one.

- ajax
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From ajax at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 14:24:58 2008
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:24:58 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
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On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 23:29 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:36:33 -0700,
>   Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:33 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > > There is a small fly in this ointment.  The above may work, usually,
> > > but very far from always.  For example, if monitor EDID data are
> > > faulty or not present at all, and this is _not_ a hypothetical
> > > situation, then a configuration you are getting is busted.  Also
> > > something which is possible, and even "correct" in some sense, does
> > > not need to be optimal/desired in a given situation.
> > 
> > Perfect is the enemy of good.
> > 
> > Ajax has in the past asked for /anybody/ to provide him situations where
> > the EDID is bogus.
> 
> I have had a ticket open since last February where the driver ignores
> a monitor because it doesn't do EDID and ends up not sending any signal to
> the DVI port (I suspect it is getting sent to the VGA port). I have to
> patch xorg-x11-drv-ati everytime a new version becomes available. This
> actually works pretty well, but is still annoying.

Bug number?  I drown in bugzilla.

- ajax
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 14:26:25 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Udev updated
In-Reply-To: <1223646466.19673.179.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <89295.71136.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Udev updated
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 6:47 AM
> On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 11:04 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> > After this morning updates :
> > I get a list of messages at boot-time saying that udev
> cannot create
> > loop1, loop2, loop3, and lp1, lp2
> > (I cannot find same messages in dmesg...)
> > When I log in for the first time user is immediately
> logged out and
> > the login window is re-presented: since then
> everything is fine.
> > 
> > What component is to be filed for bug?? kernel or
> udev???
> 
> It's a MAKEDEV bug and it's already filed --
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466385
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> -- 

Great, because I did not see the loop messages till I read the messages and then I had to boot into level 3 and I saw them :)
Booting hanged with 2.6.27 with ext4(see other message) previous kernels prior to these one booted and worked fine.  Should I file a bug or has it been filed?

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 14:30:18 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:30:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <d5ad21470810100656q4070b38eya42aa5cd91847c5f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <72194.30849.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Gianluca Sforna <giallu at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Gianluca Sforna <giallu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 6:56 AM
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Antonio Olivares
> <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dear fellow testers,
> >
> > new kernel does not boot on ext4dev machine, should I
> file a bug, when I boot up I get:
> 
> I guess no bug is needed:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/94211
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Gianluca Sforna
> 
> http://morefedora.blogspot.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna

Thanks Gianluca for linking to that message.  How should we proceed to fix the mounting part and get it to work?

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct 10 14:35:22 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:35:22 -0600
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 02:58:03PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> 
> Note, that xorg.conf was never deprecated (meaning, that you can 
> still use it and it is read by Xorg on start)

X is an "outside" project and preventing that would likely
require essential code changes so I do not really expect that
this will happen.  It may turn out that writing a new xorg.conf
will be a "hacker's delight" again but that is another story.

Only I think that with a focus solely on xorg.conf you are
loosing a bigger picture.

Here is another example from the last few days (or small weeks).
In '/usr/bin/gnome-wm' you now will find the following comment:

#
# NOTE: DON'T USE THIS.  Please have your window manager install
# a desktop file and change the gconf key
# /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager

Guess what?  It really does not work.  This was
'/apps/gnome-session/rh/window_manager' working key yet very
recently and just resetting that another gconf key simply does not
have any effect.  True, the comment says something about "a desktop
file" too so I tried to provide something similar to
metacity-wm.desktop.  The best result I got so far was no window
manager at all.  Maybe what is truly expected is documented
somewhere, and who knows where, and maybe not.  Do you feel lucky?
Do not tell me that anybody hardly noticed.  This is not the point.

Or maybe you can try to find a reasonable way to disable
suspend/hibernate on some machine in such way that this cannot be
turned on even by an accident and it survive updates?  If not then
something in fdi policies which worked yesterday but today is not
valid anymore and you cannot even start guessing why.  Some gdm
adjustments for a change?  Try to fill a bugzilla report and it will
be ignored or closed with NOTABUG.

It is not a particular individual instance of something but such
lists can go on and on and on and after a while you really feel
forced into a maze of hacking "obscure configurations" like said in
a message which opened this thread.

  Michal



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 10 14:36:29 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:36:29 -0500
Subject: Udev updated
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810100204n143d408byec7b1c1bec16b839@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810100204n143d408byec7b1c1bec16b839@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081010143629.GA7581@wolff.to>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:04:35 +0200,
  Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
> After this morning updates :
> I get a list of messages at boot-time saying that udev cannot create
> loop1, loop2, loop3, and lp1, lp2
> (I cannot find same messages in dmesg...)
> When I log in for the first time user is immediately logged out and
> the login window is re-presented: since then everything is fine.
> 
> What component is to be filed for bug?? kernel or udev???

It could also be MAKEDEV.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 14:43:27 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:13:27 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <ei44s5x8co.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 2008-10-10, 13:45 GMT, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> If nobody reads the release notes, nobody can force them to 
>> read anything else either. Fact is, that some people read it 
>> and others don't. Feel free to educate them. We have been 
>> linking to the release notes from the front page of the website 
>> for a long time now.
> 
> Well, the truth is, I don't remember whether we have them still 
> available in Anaconda -- are they there?

Nope. Not anymore.

Rahul



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 10 14:49:56 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:49:56 +0000
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF635E.7020808@fedoraproject.org>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>	<48EF5C69.1020403@fedoraproject.org>	<48EF626B.1040209@hi.is>
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Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
>>
>> Now think of all the handouts of Fedora dvds cd's usb's and 
>> conferences etc.
>>
>> Do we handout release notes... NO WE DON'T!
>
> It is part of the fedora release notes package in the distribution. 
> Part of the default bookmarks as well.
>
>> Does the default startup page in the browser point to the Fedora 
>> release notes page
>> for those end users that might have internet connection.
>>
>> NO IT'S DOES NOT"!
>
> We did before and it didn't make much of a difference.
>  
Well if that does not further proofing my point....
>> We have to find a better way of getting the info to our end users.
>
> If you have bright ideas, let us know.
I'm curious what your definition of "us"
is so please elaborate who you consider "us"

I've already had discussion with individuals that would be involved in 
implementing
my ideas but to no prevail and these where all ideas on trying to get 
the release notes more
visible to the end user

The answers I got was..

Adds to much workload, as in code and maintaining that code followed by
"nobody reads those release notes anyway so it's not worth the trouble"
Which is true and valid point so there's no use wasting time and money 
on it.
( Yet vital things still are put in the release notes followed by the 
excuse the user should have read the release notes  )

Which means we need to come up with an alternative solution.

"Floor is open for suggestions"

So far I've not heard any idea from you.
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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 14:57:08 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:27:08 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF6B94.8060007@hi.is>
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J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
>> If you have bright ideas, let us know.
> I'm curious what your definition of "us"
> is so please elaborate who you consider "us"

Those of us who write the release notes including the documentation team.

> I've already had discussion with individuals that would be involved in 
> implementing
> my ideas but to no prevail and these where all ideas on trying to get 
> the release notes more
> visible to the end user
> 
> The answers I got was..
> 
> Adds to much workload, as in code and maintaining that code followed by
> "nobody reads those release notes anyway so it's not worth the trouble"
> Which is true and valid point so there's no use wasting time and money 
> on it.
> ( Yet vital things still are put in the release notes followed by the 
> excuse the user should have read the release notes  )

Requests for enhancements should go into http://bugzilla.redhat.com. Did 
they?

> Which means we need to come up with an alternative solution.
> 
> "Floor is open for suggestions"
> 
> So far I've not heard any idea from you.

I am not the one complaining.

Rahul





From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 10 15:05:53 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:05:53 +0000
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF6D44.2010200@fedoraproject.org>
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Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
>>> If you have bright ideas, let us know.
>> I'm curious what your definition of "us"
>> is so please elaborate who you consider "us"
>
> Those of us who write the release notes including the documentation team.
>
>> I've already had discussion with individuals that would be involved 
>> in implementing
>> my ideas but to no prevail and these where all ideas on trying to get 
>> the release notes more
>> visible to the end user
>>
>> The answers I got was..
>>
>> Adds to much workload, as in code and maintaining that code followed by
>> "nobody reads those release notes anyway so it's not worth the trouble"
>> Which is true and valid point so there's no use wasting time and 
>> money on it.
>> ( Yet vital things still are put in the release notes followed by the 
>> excuse the user should have read the release notes  )
>
> Requests for enhancements should go into http://bugzilla.redhat.com. 
> Did they?
>
Yes they did now go look.
>> Which means we need to come up with an alternative solution.
>>
>> "Floor is open for suggestions"
>>
>> So far I've not heard any idea from you.
>
> I am not the one complaining.
>
> Rahul

Oh so it's a complaint now pointing out things that might go better
and ask people to come up with suggestion.


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From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 14:16:28 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:16:28 +0200
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
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	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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On 2008-10-10, 13:41 GMT, J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> Nobody reads the release notes

First you asked for some reading and now you don't want to read
it? Don't understand. If they don't read them, tough luck, I
guess.

> We have to find a better way to get the info ( or least the major ones ) 
> to our users.

There used to be (or still is? I am not sure) a button with
Release Notes somewhere in the beginning of Anaconda. I like
that.

Matej



From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 15:12:20 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:12:20 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF6D44.2010200@fedoraproject.org>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> I am not the one complaining.

And the people who are complaining deserve better than that.
That kind of response shows you also haven't been listening.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 15:12:58 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:42:58 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF6F51.1030907@hi.is>
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J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Requests for enhancements should go into http://bugzilla.redhat.com. 
>> Did they?
>>
> Yes they did now go look.

If you want them discussed, you should be listing them directly. It 
provides additional context.

> Oh so it's a complaint now pointing out things that might go better
> and ask people to come up with suggestion.

Sure, you can do that but don't expect me specifically to solve the 
problem of people refusing to read important information. I simply don't 
see a solution to that.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 15:14:07 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:44:07 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810100812h7a3972ecxfdf94bac9eeb507b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram
>  wrote:
>> I am not the one complaining.
> 
> And the people who are complaining deserve better than that.
> That kind of response shows you also haven't been listening.

Sure, I have. I honestly don't see a solution.

Rahul



From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 15:22:51 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:22:51 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF713F.2040509@fedoraproject.org>
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not the one complaining.
>>
>> And the people who are complaining deserve better than that.
>> That kind of response shows you also haven't been listening.
>
> Sure, I have. I honestly don't see a solution.

And I think that's the lesson in all this. Different groups have
implemented solutions, for a problem that was never really well
defined in the first place, and now the end user suffers the
consequences.
This, on "a developer's distribution of choice"?

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 15:27:56 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:57:56 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810100822l5dd02434x78f4aa765d1dd2c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Rahul Sundaram
> <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram
>>>  wrote:
>>>> I am not the one complaining.
>>> And the people who are complaining deserve better than that.
>>> That kind of response shows you also haven't been listening.
>> Sure, I have. I honestly don't see a solution.
> 
> And I think that's the lesson in all this. Different groups have
> implemented solutions, for a problem that was never really well
> defined in the first place, and now the end user suffers the
> consequences.
> This, on "a developer's distribution of choice"?

I am not sure what you are referring to. If you want to help, this is a 
good chance to define what is the problem and write out a list of 
solutions. Let's start with this basic assumption: You will never get 
everyone to read the release notes and other important information. Some 
end users will continue blindly install or upgrade their operating 
system no matter what.

Rahul



From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 15:30:00 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:30:00 -0500
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810090127x20d9fc36wec7a6204332eb9ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810072141h62ef273cgc05a3f1d74a6357d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<48ED3101.2000100@poolshark.org>
	<1223504449.4410.86.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<4c37b6af0810082156u7861d7c2ydffa4dc89a7a4350@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
> for my understanding I run same commands on a another F10 working
> system (that has Adbobe Reader installed....
> rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
> gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
> [antonio at acerF10 ~]$ rpm -V gimp
> [antonio at acerF10 ~]$
>  and then as root
> [root at acerF10 antonio]# update-desktop-database
> [root at acerF10 antonio]#
>
> someone can explain why I has a broken symlink on one system and
> everything is o.k. on another system??
> I have to check whether on the affected system (where also scribus
> menu is missing while on the other system is present under
> Application/Other) the newly created users are affected from same
> problem (i.e. missing scribus menu) and from the fact that I cannot
> add the Trashbin applet to the application bar (and the Trashbin
> applet is missing from the applet list when I ricght click on the bar
> and I get add to the panel.
> I am confused, so also my explanation may be confused... :-)
> Any idea???

By chance, did todays gimp/gnome updates clean this up?

jerry
-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Fri Oct 10 15:29:42 2008
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:29:42 +0200
Subject: rawhide report: 20081010 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081010131351.GA12035@yoda.jdub.homelinux.org>
References: <20081010103556.31A411B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<20081010131351.GA12035@yoda.jdub.homelinux.org>
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:13:51 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:

> >kernel-2.6.27-1.fc10
> >--------------------
> >* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com>
> >- Fix the return code CD accesses when the CDROM drive door is closed
> >  but the drive isn't yet ready.
> 
> SHENANIGANS!
> 
> I think whatever script is creating this is screwing up the
> ordering and timestamps of the changelogs.  Every timestamp for
> every package is 18:00:00, which cannot possibly be true.

Right. It should print just the date, because in %changelog we
don't enter any time.

-- 
EPEL build report is not affected. ;)



From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 15:39:41 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:39:41 -0500
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <587646.10305.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <587646.10305.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Antonio Olivares
<olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
>
> CPU is hovering at 99 to 100%.  running Top shows plasma is taking it up.  Logging out and back in makes no difference.  Something is wrong with plasma from new updates :(

Mine is normal. Tried with another user? (yes, that's kind of a
standard test for me, with desktop sessions anyway :-).


jerry
-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 15:48:36 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:48:36 +0200
Subject: Gimp 2.6 menu
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810100830u21e560e5k67166247454247ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810070958t7879a3ccg954f9d78b3e591bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC6FF7.8050306@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810080148i25b7368esfffb06ce3a83d26f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EC8406.9030709@poolshark.org>
	<4c37b6af0810081344t7565659bkb7679e19ddab2d34@mail.gmail.com>
	<48ED3101.2000100@poolshark.org>
	<1223504449.4410.86.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<4c37b6af0810082156u7861d7c2ydffa4dc89a7a4350@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810090127x20d9fc36wec7a6204332eb9ec@mail.gmail.com>
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2008/10/10 Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>> for my understanding I run same commands on a another F10 working
>> system (that has Adbobe Reader installed....
>> rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
>> gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
>> [antonio at acerF10 ~]$ rpm -V gimp
>> [antonio at acerF10 ~]$
>>  and then as root
>> [root at acerF10 antonio]# update-desktop-database
>> [root at acerF10 antonio]#
>>
>> someone can explain why I has a broken symlink on one system and
>> everything is o.k. on another system??
>> I have to check whether on the affected system (where also scribus
>> menu is missing while on the other system is present under
>> Application/Other) the newly created users are affected from same
>> problem (i.e. missing scribus menu) and from the fact that I cannot
>> add the Trashbin applet to the application bar (and the Trashbin
>> applet is missing from the applet list when I ricght click on the bar
>> and I get add to the panel.
>> I am confused, so also my explanation may be confused... :-)
>> Any idea???
>
> By chance, did todays gimp/gnome updates clean this up?
>
> jerry
> --
> There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
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>

unfortunately no...but I think that something is wrong in this
particular user (Myself) as my son's menu on same machine are o.k for
the Gimp (not for Scribus).
And unfortunately I cannot add the Trashbin to the application bar as
I could do on other two machines...I do not know where to dig.
Lost menus, losing myself?? :-)

Tnx anyway

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From jamundso at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 15:49:52 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:49:52 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF747C.80804@fedoraproject.org>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<48EF5C69.1020403@fedoraproject.org> <48EF626B.1040209@hi.is>
	<48EF635E.7020808@fedoraproject.org> <48EF6B94.8060007@hi.is>
	<48EF6D44.2010200@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810100812h7a3972ecxfdf94bac9eeb507b@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EF713F.2040509@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810100822l5dd02434x78f4aa765d1dd2c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EF747C.80804@fedoraproject.org>
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> I am not sure what you are referring to. If you want to help, this is a good
> chance to define what is the problem and write out a list of solutions.
> Let's start with this basic assumption: You will never get everyone to read
> the release notes and other important information. Some end users will
> continue blindly install or upgrade their operating system no matter what.

A thread with 51 messages in it, (some of them teetering on emotional
:-) and you ask me "to define what is the problem and write out a list
of solutions"?

I'll think about it - while I spend a few hours calming down doing my
day job. :-)

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 10 15:54:58 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:54:58 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223648698.27225.1.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081010042929.GA4884@wolff.to>
	<1223648698.27225.1.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081010155458.GA1898@wolff.to>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:24:58 -0400,
  Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 23:29 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > 
> > I have had a ticket open since last February where the driver ignores
> > a monitor because it doesn't do EDID and ends up not sending any signal to
> > the DVI port (I suspect it is getting sent to the VGA port). I have to
> > patch xorg-x11-drv-ati everytime a new version becomes available. This
> > actually works pretty well, but is still annoying.
> 
> Bug number?  I drown in bugzilla.

It's 431691. It has been looked at before, so I don't know that you'll
be able to do anything more now. Plus it isn't that high of a priority
for me as I have the routine of patching down to where it only takes me
a couple of minutes to do updates. I'd rather have you guys finishing up
the mode setting stuff in time for the release than working on that particular
bug right now.

For the record to make my card work I force MT_DFP to be set for my
monitor instead of MT_NONE (in a way that isn't generally appropiate).
I entered the thread in response to Jesse's request about bugs filed
for issues related to EDID problems.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 15:54:15 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:24:15 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810100849p41fcf559ga5e021adb2422b97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<48EF5C69.1020403@fedoraproject.org>
	<48EF626B.1040209@hi.is>	<48EF635E.7020808@fedoraproject.org>
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Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Rahul Sundaram
> <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> I am not sure what you are referring to. If you want to help, this is a good
>> chance to define what is the problem and write out a list of solutions.
>> Let's start with this basic assumption: You will never get everyone to read
>> the release notes and other important information. Some end users will
>> continue blindly install or upgrade their operating system no matter what.
> 
> A thread with 51 messages in it, (some of them teetering on emotional
> :-) and you ask me "to define what is the problem and write out a list
> of solutions"?

Yes because multiple problems are being mixed together. If we want to 
solve any of them, we need a more organized effort.

Rahul



From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 15:45:10 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:45:10 -0700
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48EEB527.4090901@web-ster.com>
References: <48EEB527.4090901@web-ster.com>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810100845w7fa1555cub87035ad6679ddf1@mail.gmail.com>

I got my XO.

I've been using Linux for about 10 years, and been a professional Linux
sysadmin for 6 years. I now work for a biomedical informatics group at UW
Seattle, and I support RHEL and formerly Debian. I use Fedora personally and
contributed to Cygwin back when I used Windows. I'm Fedora co-maintainer for
alpine, so I don't know why you'd want a GUI on your XO at all. :)

In addition to testing, I'd like to get some very straighforward
documentation together for current and future G1G1 participants to get
Fedora installed in a few simple steps. I love what are now called
'netbooks' (I have a Dell x200 and a Dell x300).
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From giallu at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 16:03:42 2008
From: giallu at gmail.com (Gianluca Sforna)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:03:42 +0200
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <72194.30849.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <d5ad21470810100656q4070b38eya42aa5cd91847c5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<72194.30849.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Antonio Olivares
<olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks Gianluca for linking to that message.  How should we proceed to fix the mounting part and get it to work?

Not sure. I suggest you ask Eric in that thread



From sandeen at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 16:17:58 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:17:58 -0500
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <d5ad21470810100903nfc90374ue4d591561d9e6519@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d5ad21470810100656q4070b38eya42aa5cd91847c5f@mail.gmail.com>	<72194.30849.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<d5ad21470810100903nfc90374ue4d591561d9e6519@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EF8036.4060406@redhat.com>

Gianluca Sforna wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Antonio Olivares
> <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Gianluca for linking to that message.  How should we proceed to fix the mounting part and get it to work?
> 
> Not sure. I suggest you ask Eric in that thread
> 

Sorry guys.

Here's what I suggest...

Boot back to an older kernel, update e2fsprogs, and rebuild the initrd
for the new kernel.

If rebuilding the initrd is daunting to you, just uninistall the newer
kernel, then re-install it.

-Eric



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 16:28:46 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:28:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810100839w5b7a6394h3545796b7e56bc33@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <779084.70288.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 8:39 AM
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Antonio Olivares
> <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dear fellow testers,
> >
> > CPU is hovering at 99 to 100%.  running Top shows
> plasma is taking it up.  Logging out and back in makes no
> difference.  Something is wrong with plasma from new updates
> :(
> 
> Mine is normal. Tried with another user? (yes, that's
> kind of a
> standard test for me, with desktop sessions anyway :-).
> 
> 
> jerry
> -- 
> There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we
> find the "fountain of smart".
> 
> -- 


On two machines it does the same thing :( and with different users also :(

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From jkeating at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 16:30:52 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:30:52 -0700
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF626B.1040209@hi.is>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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	<48EF5C69.1020403@fedoraproject.org>  <48EF626B.1040209@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1223656252.4410.155.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 14:10 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Do we handout release notes... NO WE DON'T!

Well maybe you should.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 16:46:36 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:46:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810100839w5b7a6394h3545796b7e56bc33@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <868736.26453.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 8:39 AM
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Antonio Olivares
> <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dear fellow testers,
> >
> > CPU is hovering at 99 to 100%.  running Top shows
> plasma is taking it up.  Logging out and back in makes no
> difference.  Something is wrong with plasma from new updates
> :(
> 
> Mine is normal. Tried with another user? (yes, that's
> kind of a
> standard test for me, with desktop sessions anyway :-).
> 
> 
> jerry
> -- 
> There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we
> find the "fountain of smart".
> 
> -- 


On the third machine which booted, here's output of top

[olivares at localhost ~]$ top

top - 11:43:48 up 3 min,  3 users,  load average: 4.11, 1.94, 0.76
Tasks: 170 total,   2 running, 167 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie
Cpu(s): 38.4%us, 10.4%sy,  0.0%ni, 50.2%id,  0.2%wa,  0.8%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   1023980k total,   866540k used,   157440k free,    24492k buffers
Swap:  2031608k total,        0k used,  2031608k free,   519768k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
 3138 olivares  20   0  105m  24m  16m R 62.7  2.4   0:35.08 plasma
 2836 root      20   0  350m  26m 8760 S 33.9  2.7   0:24.42 X
 3200 olivares  20   0 98.0m  11m 8100 S  1.0  1.2   0:00.67 gkrellm
 3191 olivares  20   0 98.0m  11m 8084 S  0.7  1.1   0:00.65 gkrellm
 3369 olivares  20   0  147m  24m  15m S  0.7  2.5   0:00.60 konsole
 1828 root      15  -5     0    0    0 S  0.3  0.0   0:00.23 kondemand/0
 2391 avahi     20   0  2880 1432 1264 S  0.3  0.1   0:00.02 avahi-daemon
 3124 olivares  20   0 60520  16m  12m S  0.3  1.7   0:00.96 kwin
 3248 olivares  20   0 56880  11m 9160 S  0.3  1.1   0:00.18 klipper
 3331 olivares  20   0 67644  12m 7712 S  0.3  1.2   0:00.19 notification-da
 3402 olivares  20   0  2428 1096  832 R  0.3  0.1   0:00.04 top
    1 root      20   0  2012  844  636 S  0.0  0.1   0:01.31 init
    2 root      15  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 kthreadd
    3 root      RT  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.04 migration/0
[olivares at localhost ~]$

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From cannewilson at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 10 16:59:35 2008
From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:59:35 +0100
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <779084.70288.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <779084.70288.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200810101759.38860.cannewilson@googlemail.com>

On Friday 10 October 2008 17:28:46 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> > From: Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
> > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases"
> > <fedora-test-list at redhat.com> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 8:39 AM
> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Antonio Olivares
> >
> > <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Dear fellow testers,
> > >
> > > CPU is hovering at 99 to 100%.  running Top shows
> >
> > plasma is taking it up.  Logging out and back in makes no
> > difference.  Something is wrong with plasma from new updates
> >
> > :(
> >
> > Mine is normal. Tried with another user? (yes, that's
> > kind of a
> > standard test for me, with desktop sessions anyway :-).
> >
> >
> > jerry
> > --
> > There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we
> > find the "fountain of smart".
> >
> > --
>
> On two machines it does the same thing :( and with different users also :(
>
This is often caused by Desktop Effects running with a video card that it 
doesn't suit.  Try turning off any effects.  If that cures it you may be able 
to selectively enable effects.

Anne

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From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 10 17:05:57 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:05:57 +0000
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223656252.4410.155.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
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Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 14:10 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>   
>> Do we handout release notes... NO WE DON'T!
>>     
>
> Well maybe you should.
>
>   
Well Jesse I'll take you on that offer the fedoraproject shall pay and 
print
out equal amount of release notes as a cd's, dvd' or  usb it's going to 
handout
pay for my trip at each event it will be distributing the cd's dvd's or 
the usb keys
and I will personally stand there during the distribution of the cd's 
dvd's or usb key's
and hand out the release notes along with the Fedora.

JBG.
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From jeff at ocjtech.us  Fri Oct 10 17:19:17 2008
From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:19:17 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF8B75.3020704@hi.is>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>
	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <48EF5B74.10006@hi.is>
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2008/10/10 "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" <johannbg at hi.is>:
>
> Well Jesse I'll take you on that offer the fedoraproject shall pay and print
> out equal amount of release notes as a cd's, dvd' or  usb it's going to
> handout
> pay for my trip at each event it will be distributing the cd's dvd's or the
> usb keys
> and I will personally stand there during the distribution of the cd's dvd's
> or usb key's
> and hand out the release notes along with the Fedora.

Not that Fedora actually distributes a lot of media directly, but
printing up release notes like this seems rather environmentally
unfriendly.  Just printing and distributing the release notes with the
media doesn't mean that people are going to read them.

-- 
Jeff Ollie

"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then
I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve
them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and
unfairness of the universe."

	-- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon"



From jkeating at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 17:20:57 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:20:57 -0700
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EF8B75.3020704@hi.is>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
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	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
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	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
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On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 17:05 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Well Jesse I'll take you on that offer the fedoraproject shall pay and 
> print
> out equal amount of release notes as a cd's, dvd' or  usb it's going to 
> handout
> pay for my trip at each event it will be distributing the cd's dvd's or 
> the usb keys
> and I will personally stand there during the distribution of the cd's 
> dvd's or usb key's
> and hand out the release notes along with the Fedora.
> 

Or you can point out as you hand out the CDs that there are release
notes to be read, or if you're handing out a USB key, if there is space
you can put a copy of the release notes on the USB itself, outside the
live image, so that one can plug in the USB and read the release notes
without booting to the Live image.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 16:47:47 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:47:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <48EF8036.4060406@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <928745.83897.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 9:17 AM
> Gianluca Sforna wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Antonio Olivares
> > <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Thanks Gianluca for linking to that message.  How
> should we proceed to fix the mounting part and get it to
> work?
> > 
> > Not sure. I suggest you ask Eric in that thread
> > 
> 
> Sorry guys.
> 
> Here's what I suggest...
> 
> Boot back to an older kernel, update e2fsprogs, and rebuild
> the initrd
> for the new kernel.
> 
> If rebuilding the initrd is daunting to you, just
> uninistall the newer
> kernel, then re-install it.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> -- 

Tried that to no avail :(  Does not work!

How do I rebuild initrd, I have done it before but do not know the steps :(
I normally do not do it often :(

Thanks,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 17:42:06 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:42:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <200810101759.38860.cannewilson@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <35094.27385.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Anne Wilson <cannewilson at googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Anne Wilson <cannewilson at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 9:59 AM
> On Friday 10 October 2008 17:28:46 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Jerry Amundson
> <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > From: Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the
> culprit
> > > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development
> releases"
> > > <fedora-test-list at redhat.com> Date: Friday,
> October 10, 2008, 8:39 AM
> > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Antonio Olivares
> > >
> > > <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Dear fellow testers,
> > > >
> > > > CPU is hovering at 99 to 100%.  running Top
> shows
> > >
> > > plasma is taking it up.  Logging out and back in
> makes no
> > > difference.  Something is wrong with plasma from
> new updates
> > >
> > > :(
> > >
> > > Mine is normal. Tried with another user? (yes,
> that's
> > > kind of a
> > > standard test for me, with desktop sessions
> anyway :-).
> > >
> > >
> > > jerry
> > > --
> > > There's plenty of youth in America - it's
> time we
> > > find the "fountain of smart".
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > On two machines it does the same thing :( and with
> different users also :(
> >
> This is often caused by Desktop Effects running with a
> video card that it 
> doesn't suit.  Try turning off any effects.  If that
> cures it you may be able 
> to selectively enable effects.
> 
> Anne

I am not running any desktop effects.  If I revert to Fedora 9 on the same machine all is well.  Some update is causing the trouble :(

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From sandeen at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 17:42:18 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:42:18 -0500
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <928745.83897.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <928745.83897.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48EF93FA.5010102@redhat.com>

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Tried that to no avail :(  Does not work!

same failure?

> How do I rebuild initrd, I have done it before but do not know the steps :(
> I normally do not do it often :(

mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-$UNAME.img $UNAME

i.e.

mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.6.27-1.fc10.img 2.6.27-1.fc10

the -f will overwrite the old image.

Ugh I might know what's going on here.

the initrd hard-codes the name of the root fs, IIRC.

Try replacing ext4dev with ext4 in /etc/fstab before you re-make the
initrd...

Also add -v to the mkinitrd commandline, see if it is including the ext4
module?

-Eric



From idht4n at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 17:42:14 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:42:14 -0700
Subject: evolution exchange problems in rawhide
Message-ID: <b79371120810101042j567a04d3ueae7b17c33936cf4@mail.gmail.com>

Is anybody else having problems with evolution exchange in rawhide?
I can't seem to send or receive mail.  I have had various errors such
as:

"No mail submission URI for this mailbox".

I logged in as a different user that had never used evolution before
and set up evolution/exchange from scratch because I thought it
might be an upgrade problem.  But even in a new account,
I can't seem to read email at all with evolution exchange.  I'm
pretty sure I set up the evolution settings identically to the way
I had them in f9.  If anybody else is having problems, I'll open a bugzilla
report.

Thanks,

                  David



From sandeen at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 18:01:59 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:01:59 -0500
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <48EF93FA.5010102@redhat.com>
References: <928745.83897.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<48EF93FA.5010102@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48EF9897.7080005@redhat.com>

Eric Sandeen wrote:
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> Tried that to no avail :(  Does not work!
> 
> same failure?
> 
>> How do I rebuild initrd, I have done it before but do not know the steps :(
>> I normally do not do it often :(
> 
> mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-$UNAME.img $UNAME
> 
> i.e.
> 
> mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.6.27-1.fc10.img 2.6.27-1.fc10
> 
> the -f will overwrite the old image.
> 
> Ugh I might know what's going on here.
> 
> the initrd hard-codes the name of the root fs, IIRC.
> 
> Try replacing ext4dev with ext4 in /etc/fstab before you re-make the
> initrd...
> 
> Also add -v to the mkinitrd commandline, see if it is including the ext4
> module?
> 
> -Eric
> 

Per notting's excellent suggestion, I think we can just put a module
alias for ext4dev into the now-called-ext4 module, and it'll all Just Work.

I'll make sure the other ext4 devs are happy with that change, and
commit it.

Thanks,
-Eric



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Fri Oct 10 18:06:46 2008
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:06:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
References: <587646.10305.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20081010T180303-57@post.gmane.org>

Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 <at> yahoo.com> writes:
> CPU is hovering at 99 to 100%.  running Top shows plasma is taking it up. 
> Logging out and back in makes no difference.  Something is wrong with plasma
> from new updates :(

Running kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10? It's probably the panel autohide 
backport. That changes quite some stuff in the panel code and I've also seen it 
use insanely much CPU during my testing today. In addition, it also made Plasma 
stop responding to mouse events randomly, that might be related to the excess 
CPU usage. Try downgrading to an older kdebase-workspace build maybe?

I will see what I can do about this problem, it might involve reverting the 
panel autohide patches for now.

        Kevin Kofler



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 18:14:53 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:14:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081010T180303-57@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <145038.45599.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:

> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 11:06 AM
> Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 <at> yahoo.com>
> writes:
> > CPU is hovering at 99 to 100%.  running Top shows
> plasma is taking it up. 
> > Logging out and back in makes no difference. 
> Something is wrong with plasma
> > from new updates :(
> 
> Running kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10? It's probably
> the panel autohide 
> backport. That changes quite some stuff in the panel code
> and I've also seen it 
> use insanely much CPU during my testing today. In addition,
> it also made Plasma 
> stop responding to mouse events randomly, that might be
> related to the excess 
> CPU usage. Try downgrading to an older kdebase-workspace
> build maybe?
> 
> I will see what I can do about this problem, it might
> involve reverting the 
> panel autohide patches for now.
> 
>         Kevin Kofler
> 
> -- 

I guess I will wait a little bit or if I can downgrade through yum it would be a lot better.  But I just wait till new packages come through :)

Thank you very much for explaining the issue. 

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 18:26:12 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:56:12 -0430
Subject: evolution exchange problems in rawhide
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810101042j567a04d3ueae7b17c33936cf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810101042j567a04d3ueae7b17c33936cf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223663172.5543.4.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 10:42 -0700, David L wrote:
> Is anybody else having problems with evolution exchange in rawhide?
> I can't seem to send or receive mail.  I have had various errors such
> as:
> 
> "No mail submission URI for this mailbox".
> 
> I logged in as a different user that had never used evolution before
> and set up evolution/exchange from scratch because I thought it
> might be an upgrade problem.  But even in a new account,
> I can't seem to read email at all with evolution exchange.  I'm
> pretty sure I set up the evolution settings identically to the way
> I had them in f9.  If anybody else is having problems, I'll open a bugzilla
> report.

I'd suggest posting to the Evo list (evolution-list at gnome.org) since the
Rawhide version of Evo is 2.23.92 (pre 2.24) and there have been some
complaints about 2.24, mainly to do with the new SQL backend I think.
The Evo BZ page (http://bugzilla.gnome.org) might also be a good place
to go.

poc



From sandeen at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 19:09:26 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:09:26 -0500
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <48EF9897.7080005@redhat.com>
References: <928745.83897.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<48EF93FA.5010102@redhat.com>
	<48EF9897.7080005@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48EFA866.70906@redhat.com>

Eric Sandeen wrote:

> Per notting's excellent suggestion, I think we can just put a module
> alias for ext4dev into the now-called-ext4 module, and it'll all Just Work.
> 
> I'll make sure the other ext4 devs are happy with that change, and
> commit it.

Note to self: test first, email later.

the module alias isn't sufficient either - I think you will have to
hand-edit fstab to say "ext4" and re-make the initrd.  Sorry.  Thanks
for running devel code! :)

-Eric



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 19:24:15 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:24:15 +0100
Subject: pulseaudio crashing in F-9
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810101224p264c2634rf9ec8cfefc1826fb@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone else seeing issues with pulseaudio crashing in Fedora 9? I
haven't managed to work out why but it doesn't seem to matter what I'm
using (totem, rhythmbox, swfdec, pidgin) I seem to lose audio. I think
I've been seeing the issue for a while (silent rhythmbox and pidgin
crashes) but I've only just managed to work out what was causing it.
I've filed bug 466231 in BZ.

Peter



From mack.sessoms at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 19:33:12 2008
From: mack.sessoms at gmail.com (mack)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:33:12 -0400
Subject: pulseaudio crashing in F-9
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810101224p264c2634rf9ec8cfefc1826fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5256d0b0810101224p264c2634rf9ec8cfefc1826fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <455ca6a20810101233m5d1972ey3c5a85fb30112e61@mail.gmail.com>

does sound come back if you, temporarily, add your user to the root group?

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>wrote:

> Is anyone else seeing issues with pulseaudio crashing in Fedora 9? I
> haven't managed to work out why but it doesn't seem to matter what I'm
> using (totem, rhythmbox, swfdec, pidgin) I seem to lose audio. I think
> I've been seeing the issue for a while (silent rhythmbox and pidgin
> crashes) but I've only just managed to work out what was causing it.
> I've filed bug 466231 in BZ.
>
> Peter
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
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From andrewparker at bigfoot.com  Fri Oct 10 19:36:31 2008
From: andrewparker at bigfoot.com (Andrew Parker)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:36:31 -0400
Subject: evolution exchange problems in rawhide
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810101042j567a04d3ueae7b17c33936cf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810101042j567a04d3ueae7b17c33936cf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6c3f5e6c0810101236v2ebdf5ye70234ebeccce363@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:42 PM, David L <idht4n at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anybody else having problems with evolution exchange in rawhide?
> I can't seem to send or receive mail.  I have had various errors such
> as:
>
> "No mail submission URI for this mailbox".
>
> I logged in as a different user that had never used evolution before
> and set up evolution/exchange from scratch because I thought it
> might be an upgrade problem.  But even in a new account,
> I can't seem to read email at all with evolution exchange.  I'm
> pretty sure I set up the evolution settings identically to the way
> I had them in f9.  If anybody else is having problems, I'll open a
bugzilla
> report.
>

Works for me, although exchange is flakey at best.  Emails are frequently
lost on startup and never come back unless I do the old "rm -rf
~/.evolution/exchange ~/.evolution/mail/exchange" before starting it up.

evolution-exchange-2.24.0-1.fc10.i386
evolution-2.24.0-3.fc10.i386
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From ajax at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 19:37:27 2008
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:37:27 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081010155458.GA1898@wolff.to>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081010042929.GA4884@wolff.to>
	<1223648698.27225.1.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<20081010155458.GA1898@wolff.to>
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On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 10:54 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:24:58 -0400,
>   Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 23:29 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > > 
> > > I have had a ticket open since last February where the driver ignores
> > > a monitor because it doesn't do EDID and ends up not sending any signal to
> > > the DVI port (I suspect it is getting sent to the VGA port). I have to
> > > patch xorg-x11-drv-ati everytime a new version becomes available. This
> > > actually works pretty well, but is still annoying.
> > 
> > Bug number?  I drown in bugzilla.
> 
> It's 431691. It has been looked at before, so I don't know that you'll
> be able to do anything more now. Plus it isn't that high of a priority
> for me as I have the routine of patching down to where it only takes me
> a couple of minutes to do updates. I'd rather have you guys finishing up
> the mode setting stuff in time for the release than working on that particular
> bug right now.
> 
> For the record to make my card work I force MT_DFP to be set for my
> monitor instead of MT_NONE (in a way that isn't generally appropiate).
> I entered the thread in response to Jesse's request about bugs filed
> for issues related to EDID problems.

This is actually more of a connection sense bug than an EDID bug.  I'll
take another look though, I'm entirely too familiar with that code these
days.

One thing that we should probably do is extend gnome-display-properties
to allow the user to demand modes outside what the monitor claims to be
able to do.  If anyone's looking for a good small project...

- ajax
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From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Fri Oct 10 20:25:26 2008
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:25:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
References: <loom.20081010T180303-57@post.gmane.org>
	<145038.45599.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20081010T201844-991@post.gmane.org>

Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 <at> yahoo.com> writes:
> I guess I will wait a little bit or if I can downgrade through yum it would
> be a lot better.  But I just wait till new packages come through :)

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=65974

Try kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10: I found the culprit, it's a patch which 
fixes flickering during the autohide animations which has this unfortunate side 
effect. I disabled that patch for now until it can get fixed properly. (I 
didn't disable autohide entirely, it's still there, it just looks ugly. ;-) 
Still disabled by default though, and as long as I have any influence on it, 
it'll stay that way (even if upstream decides to enable it at some point), I 
really hate autohide. ;-) )

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172549

        Kevin Kofler



From mcepl at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 20:48:47 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:48:47 +0200
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
References: <928745.83897.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<48EF93FA.5010102@redhat.com> <48EF9897.7080005@redhat.com>
	<48EFA866.70906@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <fmr4s5x57i.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-10, 19:09 GMT, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> the module alias isn't sufficient either - I think you will 
> have to hand-edit fstab to say "ext4" and re-make the initrd.  
> Sorry.  Thanks for running devel code! :)

There is one more problem, but more likely in ex2fsprogs or 
something. Apparently fsck when running autocheck is not able to 
resolve LABEL=boot (which happens to be my /boot) and hangs.  
I had to edit /etc/fstab and rerun mkinitrd to make my system 
boot. /var/log/messages, /var/log/dmesg and the output of
tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 is available on 
http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/tmp/2.6.27-1.fc10.i686/

Best,

Mat?j



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 10 21:28:29 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:28:29 -0500
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <1223667447.7707.16.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <50679.27884.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<u14vr5x0m9.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz> <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
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Message-ID: <20081010212829.GA20610@wolff.to>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 15:37:27 -0400,
  Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> This is actually more of a connection sense bug than an EDID bug.  I'll
> take another look though, I'm entirely too familiar with that code these
> days.

I think that part of the driver knows there is something connected to the
DVI port (especially since it used to work a while back) but because
the EDID info isn't what is expected this is ignored. And what I think
ends up happening is that with the driver not thinking any monitor is
attached that it defaults to using the VGA port.

I tried looking at the driver source to figure out where it might be doing
this based on th EDID information but couldn't grok that. So I ended mucking
with what I could grok and forced the monitor type in a place where it
was set to MT_NONE.



From kdekorte at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 21:32:54 2008
From: kdekorte at gmail.com (Kevin DeKorte)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:32:54 -0600
Subject: pulseaudio crashing in F-9
In-Reply-To: <455ca6a20810101233m5d1972ey3c5a85fb30112e61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5256d0b0810101224p264c2634rf9ec8cfefc1826fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<455ca6a20810101233m5d1972ey3c5a85fb30112e61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EFCA06.7070204@gmail.com>

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mack wrote:
> does sound come back if you, temporarily, add your user to the root group?
> 
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com
> <mailto:pbrobinson at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Is anyone else seeing issues with pulseaudio crashing in Fedora 9? I
>     haven't managed to work out why but it doesn't seem to matter what I'm
>     using (totem, rhythmbox, swfdec, pidgin) I seem to lose audio. I think
>     I've been seeing the issue for a while (silent rhythmbox and pidgin
>     crashes) but I've only just managed to work out what was causing it.
>     I've filed bug 466231 in BZ.
> 
>     Peter

I've been seeing this problem with pulseaudio as well. I have found that
if I run 'pulseaudio' from the 'Run Application' menu I get sound back.
It seems that the pulseaudio application is crashing.

Nothing much in the syslog except this..
Oct  7 14:23:55 quad pulseaudio[2904]: shm.c: shm_open() failed: No such
file or directory
Oct  7 14:23:55 quad pulseaudio[2904]: pstream.c: Failed to import
memory block.

Kevin

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From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 21:40:22 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:40:22 +0100
Subject: pulseaudio crashing in F-9
In-Reply-To: <48EFCA06.7070204@gmail.com>
References: <5256d0b0810101224p264c2634rf9ec8cfefc1826fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<455ca6a20810101233m5d1972ey3c5a85fb30112e61@mail.gmail.com>
	<48EFCA06.7070204@gmail.com>
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> mack wrote:
>> does sound come back if you, temporarily, add your user to the root group?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com
>> <mailto:pbrobinson at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Is anyone else seeing issues with pulseaudio crashing in Fedora 9? I
>>     haven't managed to work out why but it doesn't seem to matter what I'm
>>     using (totem, rhythmbox, swfdec, pidgin) I seem to lose audio. I think
>>     I've been seeing the issue for a while (silent rhythmbox and pidgin
>>     crashes) but I've only just managed to work out what was causing it.
>>     I've filed bug 466231 in BZ.
>>
>>     Peter
>
> I've been seeing this problem with pulseaudio as well. I have found that
> if I run 'pulseaudio' from the 'Run Application' menu I get sound back.
> It seems that the pulseaudio application is crashing.

I find it comes back automatically but doesn't usually last a full song.

Peter



From sandeen at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 21:44:48 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:44:48 -0500
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <fmr4s5x57i.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <928745.83897.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<48EF93FA.5010102@redhat.com>
	<48EF9897.7080005@redhat.com>	<48EFA866.70906@redhat.com>
	<fmr4s5x57i.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <48EFCCD0.7020804@redhat.com>

Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 2008-10-10, 19:09 GMT, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>> the module alias isn't sufficient either - I think you will 
>> have to hand-edit fstab to say "ext4" and re-make the initrd.  
>> Sorry.  Thanks for running devel code! :)
> 
> There is one more problem, but more likely in ex2fsprogs or 
> something. Apparently fsck when running autocheck is not able to 
> resolve LABEL=boot (which happens to be my /boot) and hangs.  
> I had to edit /etc/fstab and rerun mkinitrd to make my system 
> boot. /var/log/messages, /var/log/dmesg and the output of
> tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 is available on 
> http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/tmp/2.6.27-1.fc10.i686/
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mat?j
> 

(the "messages" file is read-only)

You have /boot on ext4dev?  that's not supposed to work at all...

Hm, on further inspection this looks like an ext3 filesystem but with
test_fs set?  Strange.

How did you edit fstab?  I guess you mean for s/ext4dev/ext4/ on root?
Did you change something for /boot ?

Thanks,
-Eric



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Fri Oct 10 21:57:40 2008
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:57:40 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
References: <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty> <eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>
	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
Message-ID: <20081010215740.GA77344@mail.scottro.net>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 02:58:03PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 2008-10-09, 23:13 GMT, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > I don't think that's practical with Fedora because of its very 
> > nature as, more or less, a test bed.  However, things that are 
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^
> I would prefer to characterize Fedora as a developer's 
> distribution of choice, but whatever.

Fair enough. 
There were a lot of replies to this, let me try to do an overly brief
summation.

PROBLEM:  Often, major changes are only documented in the release notes,
which most people don't read.  My feeling on this is that this is
because the release notes are quite complete, and major changes may be
easily overlooked.  Some feel that if the users won't read the release
notes, then it's on their own head.  Others feel there should be a
better way.

I can think of two examples of how others have dealt with the issue.
One example is Ubuntu.  For example, when they brought pulse-audio into
their alpha or beta, the Hardy one, I think, they had an easy to find
thing on their front page, mentioning it.  They also mentioned
NOTE--this may break sound if you don't use Gnome.  

One problem with this one is that Fedora is a developer's distribution
in many ways.   :)  (Or a testbed) <ducks>.

However, FreeBSD, while having very complete release notes also deals
with major possible surprises by having an UPDATING section.  When one
downloads the latest source code, they will look at /usr/src/UPDATING,
which will usually (of course, it's not perfect) mention changes and
possible solutions for issues that will affect most users. 

Does this seem feasible?  For example, things like no more default
xorg.conf (even if it's not deprecated).  Other things that spring to
mind are things like tying sound to ConsoleKit which broke sound for
many people.  

Basically, the major changes that may affect many users, especially when
they don't use Gnome.  Many times, as a fluxbox user, I've come across
things that seem to almost be a Just Me (TM) issue, that work properly
if I use Gnome. 

So, that's my suggestion.  Include an UPDATING that gets updated when
various changes that might surprise people are made.  What might
surprise people is of course, subjective, but....


-- 
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 21:59:22 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081010T201844-991@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <716809.14785.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:

> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 1:25 PM
> Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 <at> yahoo.com>
> writes:
> > I guess I will wait a little bit or if I can downgrade
> through yum it would
> > be a lot better.  But I just wait till new packages
> come through :)
> 
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=65974
> 
> Try kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10: I found the culprit,
> it's a patch which 
> fixes flickering during the autohide animations which has
> this unfortunate side 
> effect. I disabled that patch for now until it can get
> fixed properly. (I 
> didn't disable autohide entirely, it's still there,
> it just looks ugly. ;-) 
> Still disabled by default though, and as long as I have any
> influence on it, 
> it'll stay that way (even if upstream decides to enable
> it at some point), I 
> really hate autohide. ;-) )
> 
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172549
> 
>         Kevin Kofler
> 
> -- 


Thank you Kevin, but I am running into a wall :(

[root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm 
error: Failed dependencies:
	kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
	ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
	kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed) kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
[root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm 
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Local Package Process
Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm: kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
Marking kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package kdebase-workspace.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package: kdebase-workspace
--> Processing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package: kdebase-workspace
--> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 for package: kdebase-workspace-libs
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)


Thank you for your help :)

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 22:01:58 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:31:58 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081010215740.GA77344@mail.scottro.net>
References: <20081008182703.140d841f@zooty>
	<eck1s5x8qj.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081010215740.GA77344@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <48EFD0D6.5050708@fedoraproject.org>

Scott Robbins wrote:
> So, that's my suggestion.  Include an UPDATING that gets updated when
> various changes that might surprise people are made.  What might
> surprise people is of course, subjective, but....

Why do you think that a complete new file like this would be read by 
more people than the better known release notes which already has a 
section specific to upgrades?

Rahul



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 22:08:38 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:08:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
In-Reply-To: <48EFA866.70906@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <954718.21891.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com> wrote:

> From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 12:09 PM
> Eric Sandeen wrote:
> 
> > Per notting's excellent suggestion, I think we can
> just put a module
> > alias for ext4dev into the now-called-ext4 module, and
> it'll all Just Work.
> > 
> > I'll make sure the other ext4 devs are happy with
> that change, and
> > commit it.
> 
> Note to self: test first, email later.
> 
> the module alias isn't sufficient either - I think you
> will have to
> hand-edit fstab to say "ext4" and re-make the
> initrd.  Sorry.  Thanks
> for running devel code! :)
> 
> -Eric
> 
> -- 

I edited /etc/fstab and changed ext4dev to ext4, tried mkintrd command failed with it, but removed kernel and reinstalled it and now I'm back with new kernel :)

[olivares at riohigh ~]$ uname -ipr
2.6.27-1.fc10.i686 athlon i386
[olivares at riohigh ~]$ 

Thanks for your help and all others who answered this thread!  Without you guys this would have been a pain in the #$$?$##$#  

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From brianwitt at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 22:21:46 2008
From: brianwitt at gmail.com (Brian Witt)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:21:46 -0700
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <67437bc40810100845w7fa1555cub87035ad6679ddf1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48EEB527.4090901@web-ster.com>
	<67437bc40810100845w7fa1555cub87035ad6679ddf1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ed95e5c90810101521r1b5950d5r286f67827daa1ffe@mail.gmail.com>

I received my XO yesterday, but am having trouble getting it to boot.
When I turn it on, I see

The clock is not set properly
Invalid system date
Stopping

and then a sad face.  A few moments later it turns off.   I tried
flashing with the latest 767 build using the instructions at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure but that didn't
change anything.

I see at

http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=91.0
and
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2d07

this is a firmware bug?  Can I upgrade the firmware myself?

I've been using Linux for about 10 years now, mostly in Red Hat Linux,
Fedora, CentOS, Debian, and Ubuntu flavors.  I'm running Fedora 9 at
home and work I support a bunch of Linux servers.  So I guess I'm
fairly Linux proficient :)

Brian

-- 
Brian Witt at gmail dot com



From dex.mbox at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 10 22:45:07 2008
From: dex.mbox at googlemail.com (dexter)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:45:07 +0100
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <716809.14785.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <716809.14785.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200810102345.07435.dex.mbox@gmail.com>

On Fri October 10 2008 22:59:22 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Thank you Kevin, but I am running into a wall :(
>
> [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> error: Failed dependencies:
> ????????kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is
> needed by (installed) kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
> [root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Local Package Process
> Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm:
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 Marking
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check

That's not how it works look @ the page again:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=65974
kdebase-workspace-{devel,libs,wallpapers} ksysguardd oxygen-cursor-themes
all come from the same src.rpm so you have to update all or nothing using rpm 
or yum as you did already.

...dex





From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 22:52:56 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <200810102345.07435.dex.mbox@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <751259.30022.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, dexter <dex.mbox at googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: dexter <dex.mbox at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 3:45 PM
> On Fri October 10 2008 22:59:22 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > Thank you Kevin, but I am running into a wall :(
> >
> > [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> > error: Failed dependencies:
> > ????????kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10
> is needed by
> > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 ksysguardd =
> 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by
> > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 kdebase-workspace
> = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is
> > needed by (installed)
> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
> > [root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall
> > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm Loaded
> plugins: refresh-packagekit
> > Setting up Local Package Process
> > Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm:
> > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 Marking
> > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update
> to
> > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 Resolving
> Dependencies
> > --> Running transaction check
> 
> That's not how it works look @ the page again:
> >
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=65974
> kdebase-workspace-{devel,libs,wallpapers} ksysguardd
> oxygen-cursor-themes
> all come from the same src.rpm so you have to update all or
> nothing using rpm 
> or yum as you did already.
> 
> ...dex

Thanks Dexter, 

I have tried to manually install the deps, but I fail the same way :(

[root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm 
error: Failed dependencies:
	ksysguardd = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed) kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
[root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm 
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Local Package Process
Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm: kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
Marking kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package kdebase-workspace.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package: kdebase-workspace
--> Processing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package: kdebase-workspace
--> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 for package: kdebase-workspace-libs
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
[root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm error: Failed dependencies:
	ksysguardd = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed) kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
[root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh kdebase-workspace-
kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
[root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm 
error: Failed dependencies:
	kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
	kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed) kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
	kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed) kdebase-workspace-devel-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
[root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm 
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Local Package Process
Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm: kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
Marking kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package kdebase-workspace.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package: kdebase-workspace
--> Processing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package: kdebase-workspace
--> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 for package: kdebase-workspace-libs
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
[root at riohigh Download]# 

I will wait till the fixes come through yum.

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From john5342 at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 10 22:59:16 2008
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:59:16 +0100
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <751259.30022.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <200810102345.07435.dex.mbox@gmail.com>
	<751259.30022.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0810101559n64ba368cw9c33e85378b1d083@mail.gmail.com>

Need to install all of them together:

yum localinstall kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm etc etc.

2008/10/10 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>

> --- On Fri, 10/10/08, dexter <dex.mbox at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: dexter <dex.mbox at googlemail.com>
> > Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
> > To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development
> releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> > Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 3:45 PM
> > On Fri October 10 2008 22:59:22 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > Thank you Kevin, but I am running into a wall :(
> > >
> > > [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh
> > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> > > error: Failed dependencies:
> > >         kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10
> > is needed by
> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 ksysguardd =
> > 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by
> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 kdebase-workspace
> > = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is
> > > needed by (installed)
> > kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
> > > [root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall
> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm Loaded
> > plugins: refresh-packagekit
> > > Setting up Local Package Process
> > > Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm:
> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 Marking
> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update
> > to
> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 Resolving
> > Dependencies
> > > --> Running transaction check
> >
> > That's not how it works look @ the page again:
> > >
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=65974
> > kdebase-workspace-{devel,libs,wallpapers} ksysguardd
> > oxygen-cursor-themes
> > all come from the same src.rpm so you have to update all or
> > nothing using rpm
> > or yum as you did already.
> >
> > ...dex
>
> Thanks Dexter,
>
> I have tried to manually install the deps, but I fail the same way :(
>
> [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> error: Failed dependencies:
>        ksysguardd = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed)
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
> [root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Local Package Process
> Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm:
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> Marking kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package kdebase-workspace.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for
> package: kdebase-workspace
> --> Processing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package:
> kdebase-workspace
> --> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 for package:
> kdebase-workspace-libs
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed
> by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving
> problems
>  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by
> package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
> Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed
> by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
> Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by
> package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
> [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm error:
> Failed dependencies:
>        ksysguardd = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed)
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
> [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh kdebase-workspace-
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh
> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> error: Failed dependencies:
>        kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by
> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>        kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed)
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
>        kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed)
> kdebase-workspace-devel-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
> [root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Local Package Process
> Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm:
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> Marking kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package kdebase-workspace.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for
> package: kdebase-workspace
> --> Processing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package:
> kdebase-workspace
> --> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 for package:
> kdebase-workspace-libs
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
>   --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed
> by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving
> problems
>  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by
> package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
> Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed
> by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
> Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by
> package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
> [root at riohigh Download]#
>
> I will wait till the fixes come through yum.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
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From john5342 at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 10 23:02:03 2008
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:02:03 +0100
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <6dc6523c0810101559n64ba368cw9c33e85378b1d083@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810102345.07435.dex.mbox@gmail.com>
	<751259.30022.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<6dc6523c0810101559n64ba368cw9c33e85378b1d083@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0810101602h64e881e9oe183f29eab3d10cd@mail.gmail.com>

Also if using yum you will also have to add the --nogpg option since
packages direct from koji are not signed (i think)

2008/10/10 John5342 <john5342 at googlemail.com>

> Need to install all of them together:
>
> yum localinstall kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm etc etc.
>
> 2008/10/10 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
>
> --- On Fri, 10/10/08, dexter <dex.mbox at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: dexter <dex.mbox at googlemail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
>> > To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development
>> releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>> > Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 3:45 PM
>> > On Fri October 10 2008 22:59:22 Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> > > Thank you Kevin, but I am running into a wall :(
>> > >
>> > > [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh
>> > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
>> > > error: Failed dependencies:
>> > >         kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10
>> > is needed by
>> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 ksysguardd =
>> > 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by
>> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 kdebase-workspace
>> > = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is
>> > > needed by (installed)
>> > kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
>> > > [root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall
>> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm Loaded
>> > plugins: refresh-packagekit
>> > > Setting up Local Package Process
>> > > Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm:
>> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 Marking
>> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update
>> > to
>> > > kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 Resolving
>> > Dependencies
>> > > --> Running transaction check
>> >
>> > That's not how it works look @ the page again:
>> > >
>> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=65974
>> > kdebase-workspace-{devel,libs,wallpapers} ksysguardd
>> > oxygen-cursor-themes
>> > all come from the same src.rpm so you have to update all or
>> > nothing using rpm
>> > or yum as you did already.
>> >
>> > ...dex
>>
>> Thanks Dexter,
>>
>> I have tried to manually install the deps, but I fail the same way :(
>>
>> [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
>> error: Failed dependencies:
>>        ksysguardd = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed)
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
>> [root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
>> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
>> Setting up Local Package Process
>> Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm:
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> Marking kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
>> Resolving Dependencies
>> --> Running transaction check
>> ---> Package kdebase-workspace.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
>> --> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for
>> package: kdebase-workspace
>> --> Processing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package:
>> kdebase-workspace
>> --> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 for package:
>> kdebase-workspace-libs
>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
>>   --> Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
>>   --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed
>> by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
>> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving
>> problems
>>  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by
>> package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
>> Error: Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
>> Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed
>> by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
>> Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by
>> package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
>> [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm error:
>> Failed dependencies:
>>        ksysguardd = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed)
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
>> [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh kdebase-workspace-
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
>> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
>> [root at riohigh Download]# rpm -Uvh
>> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
>> error: Failed dependencies:
>>        kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by
>> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>>        kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed)
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
>>        kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by (installed)
>> kdebase-workspace-devel-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
>> [root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
>> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
>> Setting up Local Package Process
>> Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm:
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> Marking kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
>> Resolving Dependencies
>> --> Running transaction check
>> ---> Package kdebase-workspace.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
>> --> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for
>> package: kdebase-workspace
>> --> Processing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 for package:
>> kdebase-workspace
>> --> Processing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 for package:
>> kdebase-workspace-libs
>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
>>   --> Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 from
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
>>   --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed
>> by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
>> kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving
>> problems
>>  --> Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by
>> package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
>> Error: Missing Dependency: ksysguardd = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed by package
>> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
>> Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace-libs = 4.1.2-5.fc10 is needed
>> by package kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
>> (kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm)
>> Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase-workspace = 4.1.2-4.fc10 is needed by
>> package kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 (installed)
>> [root at riohigh Download]#
>>
>> I will wait till the fixes come through yum.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Fri Oct 10 23:06:36 2008
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:06:36 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EFD0D6.5050708@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>
	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081010215740.GA77344@mail.scottro.net>
	<48EFD0D6.5050708@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20081010230636.GA77821@mail.scottro.net>

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 03:31:58AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Scott Robbins wrote:
>> So, that's my suggestion.  Include an UPDATING that gets updated when
>> various changes that might surprise people are made.  What might
>> surprise people is of course, subjective, but....
>
> Why do you think that a complete new file like this would be read by  
> more people than the better known release notes which already has a  
> section specific to upgrades?

I guess it's a habit from FreeBSD.  Everyone knew that it should be read
before updating.  (FreeBSD has a more distinct separation between system
and 3rd party programs as well, so there is also a /usr/ports/UPDATING.)

Also, I think that if it were publicized, for example, if something is
mentioned there, and then someone posts, for example, on Fedora forums
about it, someone else will post back, Didn't you read UPDATING?  

Lastly, the idea (again it's certainly easier said than done) is that
this would cover major, perhaps system breaking changes.   For example,
to make one up...

Changelog

programX updated 2.1.1.2
programY updated 2.1.1.4
Majorchange in NetworkManager--if you don't follow steps X, Y, and Z it
won't work).

Then in UPDATING

<date whatever> NetworkManager has been changed. You must now do X, Y,
and Z before it will run properly. 

So, I think that if it were done like that, and confined to major
changes (again subjective--for example, for me, tying sound to
ConsoleKit was major, for Gnome users it probably wasn't), people would
begin to read it. 


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
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little... insane. No, not bitchy crazy, more like homicidal 
maniac crazy. So I told her to come see you, 'kay? 



From bressers at redhat.com  Fri Oct 10 23:10:44 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:10:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <1474819490.2289721223680139256.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

So previously I voiced my concern over getting gnome to run on the XO.  I'm
not not convinced it's a good idea, but here's how to make it work.  My SD
card has a 512M swap partition and a 2 Gig overlay (I have the 4 Gig card).

If you don't fix the image, the machine will eat up too much RAM and
won't run, so you need to use an overlay file so the changes stick between
reboots.

First, make the laptop boot into single user mode (runlevel 1).  To do
this, mount the SD card, open boot/olpc.fth and look for the line that looks
like this:
root=UUID=48EE-AC2A rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=48EE-AC2A quiet
rhgb

Add a 1 , as in the number one, before the quiet, so it should look like:
"overlay=UUID=48EE-AC2A 1 quiet"

Boot the SD card and it will drop you into a root prompt.

Now, once you have a prompt, you need to disable some services.  Here is
the list I disabled, you can obviously pick and choose.  To do this, run
the command 'chkconfig <service> off" replacing <service> with an actual
name.  For example 'chkconfig setroubleshoot off'.

At the very least, turn off setroubleshoot, that's the one really eat a lot of RAM.

Here is the list of services I've shut off:
setroubleshoot sendmail rsyslog rpcidmapd rpcgssd rpcbind portreserve
nfslock netfs mdmonitor kerneloops irqbalance cups bluetooth avahi-daemon
auditd

I admit, I'm not completely sure about all the rpc stuff I'm shutting off,
but it doesn't seem to have an adverse affect.

Now shutdown the XO, and remove the 1 you added above, then boot back into the
SD card.

Now once you get into Gnome, it's still doing many sill things.  Open
the Session Preferences tool (System->Preferences->Personal->Sessions) and
just remove most of the stuff there.  The things I kept are:
Gnome Settings Daemon, Gnome Settings Daemon Helper, Network Manager, Power
Manager, and PulseAudio Sound System

This leaves me with enough free memory to run various things without too
much trouble.

-- 
    JB



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 10 23:10:37 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:10:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
In-Reply-To: <6dc6523c0810101602h64e881e9oe183f29eab3d10cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <615971.10348.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- On Fri, 10/10/08, John5342 <john5342 at googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: John5342 <john5342 at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: CPU hovers at 99-100%, plasma the culprit
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 4:02 PM
> Also if using yum you will also have to add the --nogpg
> option since
> packages direct from koji are not signed (i think)
> 
> 2008/10/10 John5342 <john5342 at googlemail.com>
> 
> > Need to install all of them together:
> >
> > yum localinstall
> kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm
> > kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm etc etc.
> >
< *** snip removed *** >
> >> --
---

That did it!  Thank you John and Dexter.  I have updated successfully :)

[root at riohigh Download]# yum localinstall kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm kdebase-workspace-devel-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm --nogpg
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Local Package Process
Examining kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm: kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
Marking kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
Examining kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm: kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
Marking kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
Examining ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm: ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
Marking ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to ksysguardd-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
Examining kdebase-workspace-devel-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm: kdebase-workspace-devel-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386
Marking kdebase-workspace-devel-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm as an update to kdebase-workspace-devel-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package kdebase-workspace.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
---> Package kdebase-workspace-libs.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
---> Package ksysguardd.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
---> Package kdebase-workspace-devel.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================================================
 Package Arch  Version       Repository                                        Size 
================================================================================
Updating:
 kdebase-workspace
    i386  4.1.2-5.fc10  kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm            10 M
 kdebase-workspace-devel
    i386  4.1.2-5.fc10  kdebase-workspace-devel-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm     184 k
 kdebase-workspace-libs
    i386  4.1.2-5.fc10  kdebase-workspace-libs-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm      1.1 M
 ksysguardd
    i386  4.1.2-5.fc10  ksysguardd-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386.rpm                   64 k

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install      0 Package(s)         
Update       4 Package(s)         
Remove       0 Package(s)         

Total download size: 11 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Updating       : ksysguardd                                        [1/8] 
  Updating       : kdebase-workspace-libs                            [2/8] 
  Updating       : kdebase-workspace                                 [3/8] 
  Updating       : kdebase-workspace-devel                           [4/8] 
  Cleanup        : kdebase-workspace-devel                           [5/8] 
  Cleanup        : kdebase-workspace-libs                            [6/8] 
  Cleanup        : kdebase-workspace                                 [7/8] 
  Cleanup        : ksysguardd                                        [8/8] 

Updated: kdebase-workspace.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 kdebase-workspace-devel.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 kdebase-workspace-libs.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10 ksysguardd.i386 0:4.1.2-5.fc10
Complete!




      



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 10 23:31:43 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:01:43 +0530
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <20081010230636.GA77821@mail.scottro.net>
References: <20081009183339.GA10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223577393.4410.122.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>	<20081010215740.GA77344@mail.scottro.net>	<48EFD0D6.5050708@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081010230636.GA77821@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <48EFE5DF.3040402@fedoraproject.org>

Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 03:31:58AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Scott Robbins wrote:
>>> So, that's my suggestion.  Include an UPDATING that gets updated when
>>> various changes that might surprise people are made.  What might
>>> surprise people is of course, subjective, but....
>> Why do you think that a complete new file like this would be read by  
>> more people than the better known release notes which already has a  
>> section specific to upgrades?
> 
> I guess it's a habit from FreeBSD.  Everyone knew that it should be read
> before updating.  

Yes, but very few people have such prior knowledge and the audience for 
Fedora is different. A lot of people know they "should" read release 
notes but don't anyway or miss out changes or the impact of those changes.

> Also, I think that if it were publicized, for example, if something is
> mentioned there, and then someone posts, for example, on Fedora forums
> about it, someone else will post back, Didn't you read UPDATING?  

That's pretty much what we do with the release notes. A big reason why I 
contribute to the release notes is because I was tired of explaining the 
same changes to everybody trying a new release.

Also release notes is written in the wiki, converted into docbook and 
following the documentation team process including translations into 
dozens of languages. A separate text file just splinters the process.

At any rate, if you believe this is useful and willing to make it 
happen, feel free to post to fedora-docs list. Despite my doubts on this 
suggestion, if it turns to be more effective, that would be a good thing.

Rahul



From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 00:09:28 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:09:28 -0700
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1474819490.2289721223680139256.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810101709y6d260285gd9ee09619835ba54@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bressers wrote:
> the command 'chkconfig <service> off" replacing <service> with an actual
> name.  For example 'chkconfig setroubleshoot off'.

Thanks! And make it easy on yourselves:

for i in setroubleshoot sendmail rsyslog rpcidmapd rpcgssd rpcbind
portreserve nfslock netfs mdmonitor kerneloops irqbalance cups
bluetooth avahi-daemon auditd; do
chkconfig $i off
done

These will effect NFS, outgoing email, printing, and zeroconf if you
are using any of those.



From idht4n at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 00:34:18 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:34:18 -0700
Subject: system-config-network activate on boot doesn't
Message-ID: <b79371120810101734r731ac286s1ea9936dcf3a1a7f@mail.gmail.com>

I missed or wasn't prompted for setting a static IP address during
install.  I tried to change from DHCP to static after install using
system-config-network.  But even though I have checked the
box that says "Activate device when computer starts", eth0
is not active after boot.  I have to go into system-config-network
and activate it each time.  Should I file a bugzilla report or is
this a known issue?  Is there a workaround?

Thanks,

          David



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Sat Oct 11 00:38:31 2008
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:38:31 -0400
Subject: F10 beta: No xorg.conf, where to tweak Synaptics pad?
In-Reply-To: <48EFE5DF.3040402@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20081009185250.GB10088@mail.harddata.com>
	<1223582794.4410.127.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081009210830.GA3933@mail.harddata.com>
	<csc2s5xpvo.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081009231311.GA65858@mail.scottro.net>
	<r304s5xadi.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<20081010215740.GA77344@mail.scottro.net>
	<48EFD0D6.5050708@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081010230636.GA77821@mail.scottro.net>
	<48EFE5DF.3040402@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20081011003831.GA78786@mail.scottro.net>


On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 05:01:43AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:


>>> Scott Robbins wrote:
>>>> So, that's my suggestion.  Include an UPDATING that gets updated when
>>>> various changes that might surprise people are made.  What might
>>>> surprise people is of course, subjective, but....
>>> Why do you think that a complete new file like this would be read by  
>>> more people than the better known release notes which already has a   
>>> section specific to upgrades?
>>
>> I guess it's a habit from FreeBSD.  Everyone knew that it should be read
>> before updating.  
>
> Yes, but very few people have such prior knowledge and the audience for  
> Fedora is different. A lot of people know they "should" read release  
> notes but don't anyway or miss out changes or the impact of those 
> changes.

That's a very valid point.  I was offering it as a sample suggestion.  
What I do, myself, is when I come across such things that affect me, is
usually put up a page, which, judging from various emails I get, people
do find helpful.

>
> That's pretty much what we do with the release notes. A big reason why I  
> contribute to the release notes is because I was tired of explaining the  
> same changes to everybody trying a new release.
>
> Also release notes is written in the wiki, converted into docbook and  
> following the documentation team process including translations into  
> dozens of languages. A separate text file just splinters the process.

Agreed.  Again, it was a suggestion of a possible solution, but as you
point out, the audience is quite different. 

> At any rate, if you believe this is useful and willing to make it  
> happen, feel free to post to fedora-docs list. Despite my doubts on this  
> suggestion, if it turns to be more effective, that would be a good thing.

Actually, you've more or less talked me out of it.  :)


Which puts me back in the list of people who don't follow release notes
as closely as I might.

It's easier, in many ways, with FreeBSD, because of the separation
between 3rd party programs and the base system.  For instance, anything
concerning xorg is under one group, samba is another, etc. etc.  

I really don't have the perfect solution--there probably isn't one,
again, due to the nature of Fedora which changes so quickly.  

The biggest problem for someone like you, who takes on the extremely
daunting task of writing release notes, is, how to judge which are major
and which are minor changes, especially when you have to write up 20 at
a time. 

I do think most of us realize this.


-- 
Scott Robbins
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From jamundso at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 00:52:05 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:52:05 -0500
Subject: system-config-network activate on boot doesn't
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810101734r731ac286s1ea9936dcf3a1a7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810101734r731ac286s1ea9936dcf3a1a7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810101752r6340175m5dec082a5934b617@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:34 PM, David L <idht4n at gmail.com> wrote:
> I missed or wasn't prompted for setting a static IP address during
> install.  I tried to change from DHCP to static after install using
> system-config-network.  But even though I have checked the
> box that says "Activate device when computer starts", eth0
> is not active after boot.  I have to go into system-config-network
> and activate it each time.  Should I file a bugzilla report or is
> this a known issue?  Is there a workaround?

NetworkManager maybe?
service NetworkManager stop; service network restart
... and so on.

ps. wired network I assume...

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 00:53:15 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:53:15 -0500
Subject: evolution exchange problems in rawhide
In-Reply-To: <6c3f5e6c0810101236v2ebdf5ye70234ebeccce363@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810101042j567a04d3ueae7b17c33936cf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<6c3f5e6c0810101236v2ebdf5ye70234ebeccce363@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810101753k6493c0aasefa7829b98c48fec@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Andrew Parker <andrewparker at bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:42 PM, David L <idht4n at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is anybody else having problems with evolution exchange in rawhide?
>> I can't seem to send or receive mail.  I have had various errors such
>> as:
>>
>> "No mail submission URI for this mailbox".
>>
>> I logged in as a different user that had never used evolution before
>> and set up evolution/exchange from scratch because I thought it
>> might be an upgrade problem.  But even in a new account,
>> I can't seem to read email at all with evolution exchange.  I'm
>> pretty sure I set up the evolution settings identically to the way
>> I had them in f9.  If anybody else is having problems, I'll open a
>> bugzilla
>> report.
>>
>
> Works for me, although exchange is flakey at best.  Emails are frequently
> lost on startup and never come back unless I do the old "rm -rf
> ~/.evolution/exchange ~/.evolution/mail/exchange" before starting it up.
>
> evolution-exchange-2.24.0-1.fc10.i386
> evolution-2.24.0-3.fc10.i386
> evolution-data-server-2.24.0-1.fc10.i386

Same for me - functional but flaky.

Curious - are CalendarTask usable for you? Mine crash the connection
at every access.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From michal at harddata.com  Sat Oct 11 01:32:20 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:32:20 -0600
Subject: system-config-network activate on boot doesn't
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810101734r731ac286s1ea9936dcf3a1a7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810101734r731ac286s1ea9936dcf3a1a7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081011013220.GA6304@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 05:34:18PM -0700, David L wrote:
> I missed or wasn't prompted for setting a static IP address during
> install.  I tried to change from DHCP to static after install using
> system-config-network.  But even though I have checked the
> box that says "Activate device when computer starts", eth0
> is not active after boot.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459017

maybe? That would mean that a device is NM controlled even if you
think that it is not.

   Michal



From summer at redhat.com  Sat Oct 11 01:34:52 2008
From: summer at redhat.com (Summer Maynard)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:34:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <1479252203.301223688653941.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <413726297.341223688892112.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

Hi All,

I got my XO earlier this week, but it appears to have a bum NIC.  :(  I'm working with laptop.org to get a replacement, but have removed myself from the test schedule until it gets here.  I'll be right back on once I have a working unit!

As for me, I've been with Red Hat in NC since 2002, working with Linux since Red Hat Linux 5.2.  I've run Fedora since the very beginning.  I am an RHCE, proud open source advocate, and a manager in the most talented tech support group in the industry!  I'm a little rusty technically, but have been getting back into things lately.  You'll find that I mostly test late afternoon/evening eastern and try to leave some time to be with my family.  I'm looking forward to working with all of you!

See you online!
Summer (summerp on freenode)


----- "Greg Dekoenigsberg" <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a
> 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit,
> so 
> let's all get to know each other.
> 
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
> 
> --g
> 
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list



From dcantrell at redhat.com  Sat Oct 11 01:38:42 2008
From: dcantrell at redhat.com (David Cantrell)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:38:42 -1000
Subject: system-config-network activate on boot doesn't
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810101734r731ac286s1ea9936dcf3a1a7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810101734r731ac286s1ea9936dcf3a1a7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081011013841.GA1665@rabbet.honolulu.burdell.org>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 05:34:18PM -0700, David L wrote:
> I missed or wasn't prompted for setting a static IP address during
> install.  I tried to change from DHCP to static after install using
> system-config-network.  But even though I have checked the
> box that says "Activate device when computer starts", eth0
> is not active after boot.  I have to go into system-config-network
> and activate it each time.  Should I file a bugzilla report or is
> this a known issue?  Is there a workaround?

The installer does not offer this screen anymore.  NetworkManager is enabled
by default.  The network configuration settings you use during installation
are written to ifcfg-DEVICE files on the target system with NM_CONTROLLED=yes
so the devices are controlled by NetworkManager.

If you want to use the network service instead of NetworkManager, the only way
to set that up during installation is by using a kickstart file.

NetworkManager by default is the direction we are wanting systems to go.  If
something doesn't work with NetworkManager, we should make it work.  You can
have static configured interfaces with NetworkManager too, even using ifcfg
files if you prefer those.

For system-config-network, I think it should see NM_CONTROLED in the ifcfg
file and stop/start the NetworkManager service rather than the network
service.  Or the network service should be modified to talk to NetworkManager
if NM_CONTROLLED is found.

-- 
David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com>
Red Hat / Honolulu, HI
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From caf at omen.com  Sat Oct 11 01:48:46 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:48:46 -0700
Subject: Friday Rawhide on Intel DG45ID problems
Message-ID: <48F005FE.80608@omen.com>

a 32 bit pxeboot install stops at about 13 per cent while loading the
first file after giving keyboard and install type.  No error message.

A 32 bit boot.iso complains that it cannot find the file with either
a URL or NFS install attempt.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From mrhodes at redhat.com  Sat Oct 11 02:13:26 2008
From: mrhodes at redhat.com (Marco Rhodes)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:13:26 -0700
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>

Hi all -

I received my XO late Thursday and will be gearing up to begin testing starting Monday.
During the day, I am a member of Red Hat's Support Engineering Group with a emphasis on Identity Management/PKI.

When all is said and done, my 6 year old son will be a *very* happy kid. He already has an older Thinkpad 570 that runs a lightweight Linux 
distro complete with TuxPaint and the Childsplay suite. So, imagine how cool the XO will be!

Looking forward to working with you all.

  =MR=



Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so 
> let's all get to know each other.
> 
> A reminder on getting started: see...
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
> 
> --g
> 
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From mrhodes at redhat.com  Sat Oct 11 02:17:12 2008
From: mrhodes at redhat.com (Marco Rhodes)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:17:12 -0700
Subject: pulseaudio crashing in F-9
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810101224p264c2634rf9ec8cfefc1826fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5256d0b0810101224p264c2634rf9ec8cfefc1826fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F00CA8.2050702@redhat.com>

Yes. I use Banshee to listen to my favorite online streams and MP3s. I also use totem very frequently. You know when pulseaudio just took a seat 
because those applications just terminate with no warning whatsoever.

I usually run 'pulseaudio -D' to start things back up and don't notice many problems afterwards.

  =MR=

Peter Robinson wrote:
> Is anyone else seeing issues with pulseaudio crashing in Fedora 9? I
> haven't managed to work out why but it doesn't seem to matter what I'm
> using (totem, rhythmbox, swfdec, pidgin) I seem to lose audio. I think
> I've been seeing the issue for a while (silent rhythmbox and pidgin
> crashes) but I've only just managed to work out what was causing it.
> I've filed bug 466231 in BZ.
> 
> Peter
> 
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From poelstra at redhat.com  Sat Oct 11 03:50:48 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:50:48 -0700
Subject: Greasemonkey triage scripts
Message-ID: <48F02298.9050600@redhat.com>

A big thanks to Brennan Ashton for creating a greasmonkey script to make 
bug triaging faster and easier.  At our last bug triage meeting he 
requested feedback on their use and a link to the script.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-07#Greasemonkey_Bugzilla_Assist_Scripts

Overall it works really well and definitely speeded up my triaging!

Does anyone have experiences to report?

Here is my feedback to make it better:

0) I would love it if there were additional buttons to add tracker bug 
aliases to the "Blocks" field for all of the Fedora 10 trackers here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Trackers#Fedora_10 
  For now you can skip the "alpha" and "beta" blockers as they are no 
longer needed.

I'd envision that the script could be updated once at the beginning of 
each new release to populate the relevant tracker bugs and remove the 
old ones.


1) remove the "suicide" button--I think the name is in bad taste and it 
is way out date and not applicable ("Fedora Core", talks about Red Hat 
and Issue Tracker, etc.)

2) "close EOL" button contains some typos--run spell check and rebase to 
latest text from here: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses#End_of_Life_.28EOL.29_product

3) "close upstream" button needs text update to reflect: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses#Upstreaming

4) Overall remove all references to "Red Hat"... this is Fedora :)

5) "close nVidia" button needs text update to reflect: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses#Nvidia_Driver

6) "live CD X Logs" button--remove it?
    a) title doesn't make any sense
    b) text pasted talks about anaconda?

7) "no response" button--needs text update to reflect: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses#Unanswered_NEEDINFO_bugs

8) Is the "X Log" button text up to date and current?

9) New button that sets "Needinfo: reporter"

10) New button that sets "Needinfo: assignee"











From dennisml at conversis.de  Sat Oct 11 03:56:11 2008
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:56:11 +0200
Subject: /dev/snd/* permissions/ownership incorrect
Message-ID: <48F023DB.8060706@conversis.de>

Since I updated to the latest packages in koji a few days ago the device 
nodes in /dev/snd/* no longer seem to have the right ownership/permissions 
which causes audio playback through alsa to fail. Doing a "chmod o+rw 
/dev/snd/*" makes audio work again.

What package is responsible for setting this up correctly so I can file bug 
against it?

Regards,
   Dennis



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 11 04:37:58 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:07:58 +0530
Subject: /dev/snd/* permissions/ownership incorrect
In-Reply-To: <48F023DB.8060706@conversis.de>
References: <48F023DB.8060706@conversis.de>
Message-ID: <48F02DA6.70309@fedoraproject.org>

Dennis J. wrote:
> Since I updated to the latest packages in koji a few days ago the device 
> nodes in /dev/snd/* no longer seem to have the right 
> ownership/permissions which causes audio playback through alsa to fail. 
> Doing a "chmod o+rw /dev/snd/*" makes audio work again.
> 
> What package is responsible for setting this up correctly so I can file 
> bug against it?

My guess would be ConsoleKit

Rahul



From mike at miketc.net  Sat Oct 11 07:34:36 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:34:36 -0500
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223710476.8996.5.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 19:10 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:

> First, make the laptop boot into single user mode (runlevel 1).  To do
> this, mount the SD card, open boot/olpc.fth and look for the line that looks
> like this:
> root=UUID=48EE-AC2A rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=48EE-AC2A quiet
> rhgb
> 
> Add a 1 , as in the number one, before the quiet, so it should look like:
> "overlay=UUID=48EE-AC2A 1 quiet"
> 
> Boot the SD card and it will drop you into a root prompt.
> 
> Now, once you have a prompt, you need to disable some services.  Here is
> the list I disabled, you can obviously pick and choose.  To do this, run
> the command 'chkconfig <service> off" replacing <service> with an actual
> name.  For example 'chkconfig setroubleshoot off'.

Are you sure that those services are actually turned off?  The reason I
am asking, is when you run chkconfig service on/off, then that only
turns on/off that service for the current run level, does it not? You
have to either be in the run level you want to remove services on, or
you have to specify that level via like below..

chkconfig --levels 345 sendmail off

that turns sendmail service off on levels 345.

Maybe I am not seeing something or wasn't aware of another way, that I
am missing?

-- 
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302 at fedoraproject.org



From denis at poolshark.org  Sat Oct 11 08:41:36 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:41:36 +0200
Subject: evolution exchange problems in rawhide
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810101753k6493c0aasefa7829b98c48fec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810101042j567a04d3ueae7b17c33936cf4@mail.gmail.com>	<6c3f5e6c0810101236v2ebdf5ye70234ebeccce363@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810101753k6493c0aasefa7829b98c48fec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F066C0.1090302@poolshark.org>

Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Andrew Parker <andrewparker at bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:42 PM, David L <idht4n at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is anybody else having problems with evolution exchange in rawhide?
>>> I can't seem to send or receive mail.  I have had various errors such
>>> as:
>>>
>>> "No mail submission URI for this mailbox".
>>>
>>> I logged in as a different user that had never used evolution before
>>> and set up evolution/exchange from scratch because I thought it
>>> might be an upgrade problem.  But even in a new account,
>>> I can't seem to read email at all with evolution exchange.  I'm
>>> pretty sure I set up the evolution settings identically to the way
>>> I had them in f9.  If anybody else is having problems, I'll open a
>>> bugzilla
>>> report.
>>>
>> Works for me, although exchange is flakey at best.  Emails are frequently
>> lost on startup and never come back unless I do the old "rm -rf
>> ~/.evolution/exchange ~/.evolution/mail/exchange" before starting it up.
>>
>> evolution-exchange-2.24.0-1.fc10.i386
>> evolution-2.24.0-3.fc10.i386
>> evolution-data-server-2.24.0-1.fc10.i386
> 
> Same for me - functional but flaky.
> 
> Curious - are CalendarTask usable for you? Mine crash the connection
> at every access.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466207



From caf at omen.com  Sat Oct 11 09:15:51 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:15:51 -0700
Subject: Valid Partition Tables Can't be read by (some) Installers
Message-ID: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>

Rawhide and Ubuntu 8.10 beta can't read the partition table on
my first SATA hard drive.  Yet fdisk can read and write them
without problem.

Apparently there is some limit on the number of partitions the
installer's partition setup can deal with, or some other brain
damage.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From clive at vacuumtube.org.uk  Sat Oct 11 10:43:54 2008
From: clive at vacuumtube.org.uk (Clive Messer)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:43:54 +0100
Subject: pulseaudio crashing in F-9
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810101224p264c2634rf9ec8cfefc1826fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5256d0b0810101224p264c2634rf9ec8cfefc1826fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223721834.3933.113.camel@pc343.objectsoft-systems.ltd.uk>



On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 20:24 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> Is anyone else seeing issues with pulseaudio crashing in Fedora 9? I
> haven't managed to work out why but it doesn't seem to matter what I'm
> using (totem, rhythmbox, swfdec, pidgin) I seem to lose audio. I think
> I've been seeing the issue for a while (silent rhythmbox and pidgin
> crashes) but I've only just managed to work out what was causing it.
> I've filed bug 466231 in BZ.

If you're using hda audio, could be the alsa 'bug' in the 2.6.26
kernels. Causes pulseaudio to go 100% cpu and shutdown. In my
experience, it's more likely to happen under load.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462200

Regards

Clive
- 
Clive Messer <clive at vacuumtube.org.uk>






From david at gnsa.us  Sat Oct 11 10:45:28 2008
From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:45:28 -0400
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <1223710476.8996.5.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
References: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1223710476.8996.5.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
Message-ID: <d6e6dfeb0810110345o545c3ac1i531a1b0724e74ca2@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 19:10 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:
>
>> First, make the laptop boot into single user mode (runlevel 1).  To do
>> this, mount the SD card, open boot/olpc.fth and look for the line that looks
>> like this:
>> root=UUID=48EE-AC2A rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=48EE-AC2A quiet
>> rhgb
>>
>> Add a 1 , as in the number one, before the quiet, so it should look like:
>> "overlay=UUID=48EE-AC2A 1 quiet"
>>
>> Boot the SD card and it will drop you into a root prompt.
>>
>> Now, once you have a prompt, you need to disable some services.  Here is
>> the list I disabled, you can obviously pick and choose.  To do this, run
>> the command 'chkconfig <service> off" replacing <service> with an actual
>> name.  For example 'chkconfig setroubleshoot off'.
>
> Are you sure that those services are actually turned off?  The reason I
> am asking, is when you run chkconfig service on/off, then that only
> turns on/off that service for the current run level, does it not? You
> have to either be in the run level you want to remove services on, or
> you have to specify that level via like below..
>
> chkconfig --levels 345 sendmail off
>
> that turns sendmail service off on levels 345.
>
> Maybe I am not seeing something or wasn't aware of another way, that I
> am missing?


The actual instructions that Josh posted have you entering runlevel 1,
using chkconfig and then rebooting back into run level 5. So
effectively they are shut off the next time that you boot which works
for the goal.



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 11 11:11:53 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:11:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081011 changes
Message-ID: <20081011111154.123791B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat Oct 11 06:01:15 UTC 2008

New package dahdi-tools
        Userspace tools to configure the DAHDI kernel modules
New package hunspell-ber
        Amazigh hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-tk
        Turkmen hunspell dictionaries
New package lxde-common
        Default configuration files for LXDE
New package lxsession-lite
        Lightweight X11 session manager
Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.4.1.48-1
--------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.48-1
- Remove unnecessary STEP_IP code. (dcantrell)
- Fix how configureTCPIP() returns. (dcantrell)
- Write new sysconfig data to a tmpdir first, then move in place. (dcantrell)
- Write NM_CONTROLLED=yes rather than NM_CONTROLLED= (dcantrell)
- Get rid of some iface flags that were not doing anything anymore.
  (dcantrell)
- Generate new config files in /.tmp in writeEnabledNetInfo() (dcantrell)
- Remove unused variables from configureTCPIP() (dcantrell)
- Do not call get_connection() twice for DHCP. (dcantrell)
- Ask for language and keyboard in rescue mode (#466525). (clumens)
- Fix bringing up the network in rescue mode (#466523). (clumens)
- If we don't have a translation for a lang name, just use the English
  (#466515) (katzj)
- Disable some more IPv6 checks. (clumens)
- Fix a typo (second part of #466374) (katzj)


asterisk-1.6.0.1-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 1.6.0-1
- Update to final release.

* Thu Sep 11 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.6.0-0.22.beta9
- Rebuild


autofs-5.0.3-26
---------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Ian Kent <ikent at redhat.com> - 5.0.3-26
- add map-type-in-map-name fix patch to sync with upstream and RHEL.
- don't readmap on HUP for new mount.
- add NIS_PARTIAL to map entry not found check and fix use after free bug.


beldi-0.9.22-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.22-1
- Upgrade to 0.9.22
- Add locales and BR gettext

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.21-1
- Upgrade to 0.9.21
- Add new manpage


bluez-4.13-1.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.13-1
- Update to 4.13


bluez-gnome-1.8-2.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.8-2
- Add patch to make the PS3 BD remote work


chktex-1.6.4-3.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr>  1.6.4-3
- ship readme and pdf doc
- add ncurses-devel for termcap


cobbler-1.2.6-1.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Michael DeHaan <mdehaan at redhat.com> - 1.2.6-1
- Upstream changes (see CHANGELOG)


control-center-2.24.0.1-7.fc10
------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 2.24.0.1-7
- Remove OSS from the possible options (#466342)

* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 2.24.0.1-6
- When a sound is selected with the file chooser in g-s-p, make
  sure to default to /usr/share/sounds if that dir exists
  (#456919)


cups-1.3.9-1.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.3.9-1
- 1.3.9, including fixes for CVE-2008-3639 (STR #2918, bug #464710),
  CVE-2008-3640 (STR #2919, bug #464713) and CVE-2008-3641 (STR #2911,
  bug #464716).
- No longer need str2892 or res_init patches.


ekiga-3.0.0-5.fc10
------------------

gimp-2.6.1-1.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Nils Philippsen <nils at redhat.com> - 2:2.6.1-1
- version 2.6.1

  Overview of Changes from GIMP 2.6.0 to GIMP 2.6.1
  =================================================

  * Bugs fixed:

   555587 ??? PSD file crashes PSD plug-in
   555222 ??? PSD Load Plugin: unsupported compression mode
   555362 ??? gimp-remote is not working properly
   555280 ??? some gif files will not be open
   554890 ??? JPEG Save Options Dialog does not remember
   554966 ??? Gimp crashes creating a new image using a template
   554785 ??? Compile failure on uri-backend-libcurl
   554646 ??? Opening Help crashes GIMP with lqr-plugin installed
   553534 ??? centering issues after image scaling and setting zoom
   554898 ??? Compile failure on uri-backend-wget.c

  * Updated translations:

   Belarusian (be)
   Catalan (ca)
   Finnish (fi)
   French (fr)
   Japanese (ja)
   Macedonian (mk)
   Punjab (pa)
   Brazilian Portuguese (pt_BR)
   Romanian (ro)
   Slovenian (sl)
   Swedish (sv)


gimp-help-2.4.2-1.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp at redhat.com> - 2.4.2-1
- version 2.4.2


glibc-2.8.90-13
---------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> 2.8.90-13
- apply sparcv9v memset patch from jakub and davem


gnome-applets-2.24.0.1-4.fc10
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.0.1-4
- Save space


gnome-backgrounds-2.24.0-2.fc10
-------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Don't ship unneeded translations


gnome-desktop-2.24.0-4.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-4
- Try to address bug 465699 by throttling animation frames
  to X server.  May revert if it ends up making animation
  choppy for a lot of people.


gnome-packagekit-0.3.6-5.fc10
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.6-5
- Bump

* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.6-4
- Add a bugfix from upstream so we don't try to check for updates
  when we've set to never. Fixes RH#461825.


gnome-screensaver-2.24.0-2.fc10
-------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Don't leak background pixmaps (gnome bug 555701)


gnome-session-2.24.0-10.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-9
- Bring shutdown menu item back.  More fallout from my buggy
  patch introduced in -7

* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-10
- Rewrite patch another time leverage better api and be more
  terse


gnome-settings-daemon-2.24.0-5.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-5
- Fix the picking up of the gdm keyboard layout even more


gnome-utils-2.24.0-3.fc10
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.0-3
- Save space


gstreamermm-0.9.7-1.fc10
------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 0.9.7-1
- Update to upstream 0.9.7


jd-2.0.3-0.1.svn2387_trunk.fc10
-------------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 2387


kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-5.fc10
------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-5
- disable panel-autohide-fix-flicker patch for now, eats CPU


kernel-2.6.27-3.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- rebase drm patches onto drm-next.patch which is going upstream
- intel modesetting make not work properly due to rebase


koan-1.2.6-1.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Michael DeHaan <mdehaan at redhat.com> - 1.2.6-1
- Upstream changes (see CHANGELOG)


libcanberra-0.10-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter at redhat.com> 0.10.2
- Drop libcanberra-gtk-module.sh since the gconf stuff is supported just fine in current gnome-session already.


lirc-0.8.4-0.5.pre2.fc10
------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 - Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> - 0.8.4-0.5.pre2
- Re-enable portaudio driver by default, require v19 or later


livecd-tools-019-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 019-1
- livecd-iso-to-disk: Various other XO fixes
- Cleanup rpmdb locks after package installation
- Fix traceback due to lazy rhpl.keyboard import
- Fix using groups with options (jkeating)
- Support persistent /home on XO's internal flash
- Fix ramdisk load addr in boot/olpc.fth for XO
- Fix up boot from SD
- Fix extracting boot parameters for pxe (apevec)
- Make rpm macro information persist into the image (bkearney)
- Support %packages --instLangs (bkearney)


mgetty-1.1.36-2.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 1.1.36-1
- fix #464983 - FTBFS mgetty-1.1.36-1.fc10 - regenerated patches


mod_mono-2.0-5.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-5
- fix URLs


nntpgrab-0.3.93-1.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Erik van Pienbroek <info at nntpgrab.nl> - 0.3.93-1
- Update to 0.3.93


perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-0.71-1.fc10
----------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Cors??pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org> - 0.71-1
- Upstream update.
- Spec cleanup.
- Add spec hacks to work around rpm bugs.


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.08.2.fc10
----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.5.0-0.2008.10.08.2
- Add Requires(post): nash (bug 466500)


python-netaddr-0.5.2-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 John Eckersberg <jeckersb at redhat.com> - 0.5.2-1
- New upstream version, bug fixes for 0.5.1


python-sphinx-0.4.3-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Michel Salim <salimma at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.3-1
- Update to 0.4.3

* Wed Aug 27 18:00:00 2008 Toshio Kuratomi <toshio at fedoraproject.org> - 0.4.2-1.1
- Fix for EL-5 build.


rubygem-cobbler-0.1.1-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 0.1.1-1
- Added support for image-based systems.


setup-2.7.4-1.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Phil Knirsch <pknirsch at redhat.com> 2.7.4-1
- Include new serviceslint for speedup (#465642)
- Cleaned up services due to newly discovered bugs in it with new serviceslint


slim-1.3.1-1.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Marco Pesenti Gritti <mpg at redhat.com>  1.3.1-1
- Update to 1.3.1


tar-1.20-3.fc10
---------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> 2:1.20-3
- Fixed wrong documentation for xattrs options (#466517)
- fixed bug with null file terminator and change dirs
  (upstream)


xorg-x11-server-1.5.2-2.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.5.2-2
- xserver-1.5.1-global-backtrace.patch: Make backtraces possible from
  outside the xfree86 DDX.
- xserver-1.5.2-mieq-backtrace.patch: bt when we fill the input queue.

* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.5.2-1
- xserver 1.5.2
- xserver-1.5.0-comment-out-glxdri2.c: Drop, no longer relevant.
- xserver-1.5.0-xkb-core-kbd-map-fix.patch: Drop, merged.
- xserver-1.5.1-int10-leaks.patch: Drop, merged.

* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.5.1-11
- xserver-1.3.0-no-prerelease-warning.patch: Drop.


xpad-3.0-1.fc10
---------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Stefan Posdzich <cheekyboinc at foresightlinux.org> - 3.0-1
- Update to new upstream version 3.0
- Upstream: Doesn't wake up every 20 milliseconds
- Upstream: Added some command line options (--hide, --show)
- Upstream: Update icon a bit
- Change license to GPLv3+


Summary:
Added Packages: 5
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 43
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From mrmazda at ij.net  Sat Oct 11 11:30:17 2008
From: mrmazda at ij.net (Felix Miata)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:30:17 -0400
Subject: Valid Partition Tables Can't be read by (some) Installers
In-Reply-To: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>
References: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>
Message-ID: <48F08E49.6060307@ij.net>

On 2008/10/11 02:15 (GMT-0700) Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R composed:

> Rawhide and Ubuntu 8.10 beta can't read the partition table on
> my first SATA hard drive.  Yet fdisk can read and write them
> without problem.

> Apparently there is some limit on the number of partitions the
> installer's partition setup can deal with, or some other brain
> damage.

Anything like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=430836 ?
-- 
"Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and
slow to become angry."		James 1:19 NIV

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/



From carloraudino at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 11 12:44:23 2008
From: carloraudino at fedoraproject.org (Carlo Raudino)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:44:23 +0200
Subject: kernel 2.6.26.6-67.fc9
Message-ID: <1223729063.3183.7.camel@karlworkstation>

Today (after using the old RC1) I installed the kernel-2.6.26.6-67.fc9
from koji....

I think is very stable, for now it's running without troubles.

Has anyone encountered problems?

I remember in .6 were dropped old patches... so it's a nice mantainance
update.

Will it be pushed to updates? :-)



From sandeen at redhat.com  Sat Oct 11 13:02:48 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:02:48 -0500
Subject: Valid Partition Tables Can't be read by (some) Installers
In-Reply-To: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>
References: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>
Message-ID: <48F0A3F8.4060005@redhat.com>

Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Rawhide and Ubuntu 8.10 beta can't read the partition table on
> my first SATA hard drive.  Yet fdisk can read and write them
> without problem.

Rawhide & ubuntu use very different installers, interesting that they'd
both fail.

How does anaconda fail, details?

> Apparently there is some limit on the number of partitions the
> installer's partition setup can deal with, or some other brain
> damage.

How many partitions do you have in total, if you think that's the issue?

Thanks,
-Eric



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 11 13:28:50 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:28:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fedora-10 does not like me
In-Reply-To: <gcq78q$l4f$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <562974.39653.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

CC'd to fedora-test-list at redhat.com so you can get more input :)


--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net> wrote:

> From: Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net>
> Subject: Fedora-10 does not like me
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 5:47 AM
> I've had rather disappointing experiences with F-10
> beta.
> I tried to install on the hard disk of a Thinkpad T43,
> but the mouse/pointer was not visible.
> Installation in text mode crashed after installing all the
> packages.
> 
> I tried the KDE Live CD in a couple of very different
> computers,
> but neither was stable.
> In both cases the problem seemed to lie with X.
X has been updated, can you attempt a network install or try to rescue the installed system which crashed towards the end? 
> 
> I don't particularly mind - I'm happy to wait for
> the real article.
> But I wondered if my experience is typical?
Typical, not everyone succeeds, that is why it is a beta.  The issues which you encountered should be reported so that they can get fixed with the specs of the machine.  Someone else might have your problem and also has reported it?  Don't know in your case.  
> 
> One tentative conclusion I have come to
> is that Anaconda is becoming much too complicated.
> I wonder if a two-tier system would not be better,
> where a basic Linux system is set up in phase one,
> and all the goodies added in phase two.
Well I can say that I partially agree with you, but I still found a way to install it on a dead NTFS partition where windows resided.  I deleted the partition with Gparted Live CD and tried to install Fedora 10 Beta with ext4/ext4dev filessytem(to test it out), I had a hard time installing it, but after several tries I succeeded :)  I was running KDE and CPU was hovering due to an update, I reported to test-list and quickly Kevin sent in the packages that fixed it and today they were released in rawhide report-20081011. 
> 
> -- 
> Timothy Murphy  
> e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
> tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
> s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2,
> Ireland
> 
> -- 

I think that your experiences are better shared in fedora-test-list, and I probably know that you might not want to subscribe, but I can forward the responses or cc: them to you.  

I don't know why, but packages break here and there, but most of them get fixed and mostly everything is getting better and better.  Just like with everything some things are getting harder and harder, but I will concentrate on the positives.  

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From alan at redhat.com  Sat Oct 11 13:34:14 2008
From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:34:14 -0400
Subject: Valid Partition Tables Can't be read by (some) Installers
In-Reply-To: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>
References: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>
Message-ID: <20081011133414.GA15027@shell.devel.redhat.com>

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 02:15:51AM -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Rawhide and Ubuntu 8.10 beta can't read the partition table on
> my first SATA hard drive.  Yet fdisk can read and write them
> without problem.
> 
> Apparently there is some limit on the number of partitions the
> installer's partition setup can deal with, or some other brain
> damage.

If you have more than I think its 15 partitions you will only see the first
15 but you will get those.

But on the positive side handling for very large numbers of partitions on
ATA disks went upstream yesterday 8)



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 13:42:31 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:42:31 +0300
Subject: Valid Partition Tables Can't be read by (some) Installers
In-Reply-To: <20081011133414.GA15027@shell.devel.redhat.com>
References: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>
	<20081011133414.GA15027@shell.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810110642q63d1521uf3395055ad8503ae@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/11 Alan Cox <alan at redhat.com>

> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 02:15:51AM -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
> wrote:
> > Rawhide and Ubuntu 8.10 beta can't read the partition table on
> > my first SATA hard drive.  Yet fdisk can read and write them
> > without problem.
> >
>
btw, is any partition using the last cylinder?


>
> > Apparently there is some limit on the number of partitions the
> > installer's partition setup can deal with, or some other brain
> > damage.
>
> If you have more than I think its 15 partitions you will only see the first
> 15 but you will get those.
>
> But on the positive side handling for very large numbers of partitions on
> ATA disks went upstream yesterday 8)
>
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From caf at omen.com  Sat Oct 11 17:15:32 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:15:32 -0700
Subject: More on "Unreadable" Partition Tables
Message-ID: <48F0DF34.5070906@omen.com>

Here is the fdisk printout for the "offending" partition table.
The MBR boots to sda8 (openSUSE).

Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xe4c0e4c0

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1        6374    51199123+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2            6375        6505     1052257+  83  Linux
/dev/sda3            6506       24379   143572905    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda4           19259       21808    20482875   83  Linux
/dev/sda5            6506        6897     3148708+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda6            6898        9508    20972826   83  Linux
/dev/sda7            9509       11941    19543041   83  Linux
/dev/sda8           11942       15588    29294496   83  Linux
/dev/sda9           15589       18020    19535008+  83  Linux
/dev/sda10          18021       19258     9944203+  83  Linux
/dev/sda11          21809       24379    20651526   83  Linux

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 17:25:29 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:25:29 +0300
Subject: More on "Unreadable" Partition Tables
In-Reply-To: <48F0DF34.5070906@omen.com>
References: <48F0DF34.5070906@omen.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810111025n1454e4efsf9d24b663632c0ed@mail.gmail.com>

you have a primary partition over an extended?

2008/10/11 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com>

> Here is the fdisk printout for the "offending" partition table.
> The MBR boots to sda8 (openSUSE).
>
> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0xe4c0e4c0
>
>  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1   *           1        6374    51199123+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda2            6375        6505     1052257+  83  Linux
> /dev/sda3            6506       24379   143572905    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/sda4           19259       21808    20482875   83  Linux
> /dev/sda5            6506        6897     3148708+  82  Linux swap /
> Solaris
> /dev/sda6            6898        9508    20972826   83  Linux
> /dev/sda7            9509       11941    19543041   83  Linux
> /dev/sda8           11942       15588    29294496   83  Linux
> /dev/sda9           15589       18020    19535008+  83  Linux
> /dev/sda10          18021       19258     9944203+  83  Linux
> /dev/sda11          21809       24379    20651526   83  Linux
>
> --
> Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
> Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
>  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
> 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665
>
> --
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From bgardin at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 17:55:32 2008
From: bgardin at gmail.com (Bruno GARDIN)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:55:32 +0200
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
Message-ID: <4a2527c40810111055h3c7b9e7bqb3fd93de477b7cbc@mail.gmail.com>

I am testing rawhide for a few month now but i have problem of boot
since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My rawhide is a virtual system on vmware
server now in version 2.0. Whenever i try to boot, i got the following
errors at the end :
Activating logical volumes
    VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found
Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
Creating root device
Mounting root file system
mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3. No such file or directory
Setting up other filesystems
setuproot: moving /dev failed:No such file or directory
setuproot: error mounting/proc: No such file or directory
setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory
Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such file or directory
Switching to new root and running init
swithroot: mount failed: No such file or directory
Booting has failed

Boot works fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but fails also with 2.6.27-1.
I have looked at the thread related to ext4 but i am using ext3. I
have also tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no change. Any idea of
what the problem could be ?

-- 
BeGe



From ranger at opennms.org  Sat Oct 11 18:03:54 2008
From: ranger at opennms.org (Benjamin Reed)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:03:54 -0400
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <4a2527c40810111055h3c7b9e7bqb3fd93de477b7cbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a2527c40810111055h3c7b9e7bqb3fd93de477b7cbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F0EA8A.4060608@opennms.org>

Bruno GARDIN wrote:

> Mounting root file system
> mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3. No such file or directory
> Setting up other filesystems
> setuproot: moving /dev failed:No such file or directory
> setuproot: error mounting/proc: No such file or directory
> setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory
> Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such file or directory
> Switching to new root and running init
> swithroot: mount failed: No such file or directory
> Booting has failed

I got this same thing with a fresh rawhide kickstart yesterday in VMware
Fusion 2.0 on Mac OS X.

-- 
Benjamin Reed
The OpenNMS Group
http://www.opennms.org/


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From cra at WPI.EDU  Sat Oct 11 18:06:47 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:06:47 -0400
Subject: More on "Unreadable" Partition Tables
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0810111025n1454e4efsf9d24b663632c0ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F0DF34.5070906@omen.com>
	<db64ccf0810111025n1454e4efsf9d24b663632c0ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081011180647.GH10204@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>


On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:25:29PM +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> 2008/10/11 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com>
> 
> > Here is the fdisk printout for the "offending" partition table.
> > The MBR boots to sda8 (openSUSE).
> >
> > Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> > Disk identifier: 0xe4c0e4c0
> >
> >  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/sda1   *           1        6374    51199123+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/sda2            6375        6505     1052257+  83  Linux
> > /dev/sda3            6506       24379   143572905    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
> > /dev/sda4           19259       21808    20482875   83  Linux
> > /dev/sda5            6506        6897     3148708+  82  Linux swap /
> > Solaris
> > /dev/sda6            6898        9508    20972826   83  Linux
> > /dev/sda7            9509       11941    19543041   83  Linux
> > /dev/sda8           11942       15588    29294496   83  Linux
> > /dev/sda9           15589       18020    19535008+  83  Linux
> > /dev/sda10          18021       19258     9944203+  83  Linux
> > /dev/sda11          21809       24379    20651526   83  Linux
>
> you have a primary partition over an extended?

Yes, this looks like a broken partition table with overlapping 
partitions.  sda4 overlaps sda5 between sda10 and sda11.  This might 
be fixable by moving sda4 to the extended partition, in which case it 
would become sda11 and sda11 would become sda12, but it may be tricky 
to do it.

Which tools were used to create these partitions originally, 
specifically sda4?  Was sda4 made after sda5 or before?



From adrian at weelife.com  Sat Oct 11 18:17:24 2008
From: adrian at weelife.com (Adrian Mandy)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:17:24 -0700
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1474819490.2289721223680139256.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <98be106d0810111117l34d8a8f7m6c841a664c607cc0@mail.gmail.com>

> Here is the list of services I've shut off:
> setroubleshoot sendmail rsyslog rpcidmapd rpcgssd rpcbind portreserve
> nfslock netfs mdmonitor kerneloops irqbalance cups bluetooth avahi-daemon
> auditd
>
> I admit, I'm not completely sure about all the rpc stuff I'm shutting off,
> but it doesn't seem to have an adverse affect.
>
>
When I shut off these services it seems to disable my swap. I've tried to
figure out which service might be causing it but no luck so far.

-- 
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http://living.weelife.com
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From michal at harddata.com  Sat Oct 11 18:34:54 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:34:54 -0600
Subject: More on "Unreadable" Partition Tables
In-Reply-To: <20081011180647.GH10204@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <48F0DF34.5070906@omen.com>
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 02:06:47PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:25:29PM +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> > 2008/10/11 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com>
> > 
> > > Here is the fdisk printout for the "offending" partition table.
> > > The MBR boots to sda8 (openSUSE).
> > >
> > > Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
> > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
> > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> > > Disk identifier: 0xe4c0e4c0
> > >
> > >  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> > > /dev/sda1   *           1        6374    51199123+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> > > /dev/sda2            6375        6505     1052257+  83  Linux
> > > /dev/sda3            6506       24379   143572905    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
> > > /dev/sda4           19259       21808    20482875   83  Linux
> > > /dev/sda5            6506        6897     3148708+  82  Linux swap /
> > > Solaris
> > > /dev/sda6            6898        9508    20972826   83  Linux
> > > /dev/sda7            9509       11941    19543041   83  Linux
> > > /dev/sda8           11942       15588    29294496   83  Linux
> > > /dev/sda9           15589       18020    19535008+  83  Linux
> > > /dev/sda10          18021       19258     9944203+  83  Linux
> > > /dev/sda11          21809       24379    20651526   83  Linux
> >
> > you have a primary partition over an extended?
> 
> Yes, this looks like a broken partition table with overlapping 
> partitions.

Not necessarily.  /dev/sda4 sits between sda10 and sda11 but
/dev/sda3 is extended.  Things are out of order and that may be
not to liking of some tools.

> This might 
> be fixable by moving sda4 to the extended partition, in which case it 
> would become sda11 and sda11 would become sda12, but it may be tricky 
> to do it.

Nah!  This shold be very simple to do.  Redirect an output
of 'sfdisk -d /dev/sda' to a file, edit results to put that
into an order and feed that to sfdisk back.  This should be it.
Rewrites of partition tables do not touch file systems although
fstab may need some fixups depending on how it was done.

Keep a copy of an original ouput from 'sfdisk -d /dev/sda'
(or even better an image of the current partition table too)
in case you messed something and you need to restore
the current state.

   Michal



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 18:39:19 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:39:19 +0200
Subject: youtube
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810111139p5985165di60085ace3ff00726@mail.gmail.com>

I could watch to youtube trailers, now after recent updates, I get a
frozen screen and I see the loading bar proceed to the end but nothing
happens..
When I read philosophic discussions about Fedora, I want to remind
everybody that multimedia is becoming more and more important on the
Web, and I find always a pain to have a fully functional
system....sometimes I would love to a have the stupid but working
Windows Mediaplayer..:-(


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 18:41:06 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:41:06 +0300
Subject: More on "Unreadable" Partition Tables
In-Reply-To: <20081011183454.GA5381@mail.harddata.com>
References: <48F0DF34.5070906@omen.com>
	<db64ccf0810111025n1454e4efsf9d24b663632c0ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081011180647.GH10204@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<20081011183454.GA5381@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810111141x96ba0d3g38bce7fc67d4f523@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/11 Michal Jaegermann <michal at harddata.com>

> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 02:06:47PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:25:29PM +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> > > 2008/10/11 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R <caf at omen.com>
> > >
> > > > Here is the fdisk printout for the "offending" partition table.
> > > > The MBR boots to sda8 (openSUSE).
> > > >
> > > > Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
> > > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
> > > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> > > > Disk identifier: 0xe4c0e4c0
> > > >
> > > >  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> > > > /dev/sda1   *           1        6374    51199123+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> > > > /dev/sda2            6375        6505     1052257+  83  Linux
> > > > /dev/sda3            6506       24379   143572905    f  W95 Ext'd
> (LBA)
> > > > /dev/sda4           19259       21808    20482875   83  Linux
> > > > /dev/sda5            6506        6897     3148708+  82  Linux swap /
> > > > Solaris
> > > > /dev/sda6            6898        9508    20972826   83  Linux
> > > > /dev/sda7            9509       11941    19543041   83  Linux
> > > > /dev/sda8           11942       15588    29294496   83  Linux
> > > > /dev/sda9           15589       18020    19535008+  83  Linux
> > > > /dev/sda10          18021       19258     9944203+  83  Linux
> > > > /dev/sda11          21809       24379    20651526   83  Linux
> > >
> > > you have a primary partition over an extended?
> >
> > Yes, this looks like a broken partition table with overlapping
> > partitions.
>
> Not necessarily.  /dev/sda4 sits between sda10 and sda11 but
> /dev/sda3 is extended.  Things are out of order and that may be
> not to liking of some tools.
>
> > This might
> > be fixable by moving sda4 to the extended partition, in which case it
> > would become sda11 and sda11 would become sda12, but it may be tricky
> > to do it.
>
> Nah!  This shold be very simple to do.  Redirect an output
> of 'sfdisk -d /dev/sda' to a file, edit results to put that
> into an order and feed that to sfdisk back.  This should be it.
> Rewrites of partition tables do not touch file systems although
> fstab may need some fixups depending on how it was done.
>
> Keep a copy of an original ouput from 'sfdisk -d /dev/sda'
> (or even better an image of the current partition table too)
> in case you messed something and you need to restore
> the current state.


nice trick, michal.

>
>
>   Michal
>
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From cra at WPI.EDU  Sat Oct 11 19:11:45 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:11:45 -0400
Subject: More on "Unreadable" Partition Tables
In-Reply-To: <20081011183454.GA5381@mail.harddata.com>
References: <48F0DF34.5070906@omen.com>
	<db64ccf0810111025n1454e4efsf9d24b663632c0ed@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:34:54PM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> Not necessarily.  /dev/sda4 sits between sda10 and sda11 but
> /dev/sda3 is extended.  Things are out of order and that may be
> not to liking of some tools.

Of course I meant to say "sda3" everywhere I said "sda5".

So this is the physical sector order of those partitions:

Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda3            6506       24379   143572905    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda10          18021       19258     9944203+  83  Linux
/dev/sda4           19259       21808    20482875   83  Linux
/dev/sda11          21809       24379    20651526   83  Linux

I wasn't aware that it was legal to punch a hole in an extended 
partition with a non-extended partition.  Looking at this another way, 
I wasn't aware that an extended partition could consist of 
non-contiguous extents of sectors.

> Nah!  This shold be very simple to do.  Redirect an output
> of 'sfdisk -d /dev/sda' to a file, edit results to put that
> into an order and feed that to sfdisk back.  This should be it.
> Rewrites of partition tables do not touch file systems although
> fstab may need some fixups depending on how it was done.

I wonder if the sda4 partition has reserved space at the beginning of 
it for the partition table sector required in extended partitions.  
There are usually 63 sectors between extended logical partitions, 
unlike primary partitions which don't reserve that extra space.

Posting the output of:

sfdisk -d -x /dev/sda

would be helpful.  For example here's one of mine:

#sfdisk -d -x /dev/sdb
# partition table of /dev/sdb
unit: sectors

/dev/sdb1 : start=       63, size=   273042, Id=83, bootable
/dev/sdb2 : start=   273105, size=   273105, Id=83
/dev/sdb3 : start=   546210, size=311950170, Id= 5
/dev/sdb4 : start=        0, size=        0, Id= 0

/dev/sdb5 : start=   546273, size= 77995512, Id=8e
    -     : start= 78541785, size= 77995575, Id= 5
    -     : start=   546210, size=        0, Id= 0
    -     : start=   546210, size=        0, Id= 0

/dev/sdb6 : start= 78541848, size= 77995512, Id=8e
    -     : start=156537360, size= 77995575, Id= 5
    -     : start= 78541785, size=        0, Id= 0
    -     : start= 78541785, size=        0, Id= 0

/dev/sdb7 : start=156537423, size= 77995512, Id=8e
    -     : start=234532935, size= 77963445, Id= 5
    -     : start=156537360, size=        0, Id= 0
    -     : start=156537360, size=        0, Id= 0

/dev/sdb8 : start=234532998, size= 77963382, Id=8e
    -     : start=234532935, size=        0, Id= 0
    -     : start=234532935, size=        0, Id= 0
    -     : start=234532935, size=        0, Id= 0

So sdb2 starts with a partition table sector at 546210.  This 
partition table sector describes sda5 which starts 63 sectors later at 
546273.

For the OP's partition table, if sda4 was originally created as a 
primary partition, then it won't have this 63 sector gap before the 
filesystem data begins.  I don't know if this matters or not...



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 11 19:48:56 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <4a2527c40810111055h3c7b9e7bqb3fd93de477b7cbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <336665.14617.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Bruno GARDIN <bgardin at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bruno GARDIN <bgardin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:55 AM
> I am testing rawhide for a few month now but i have problem
> of boot
> since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My rawhide is a virtual system
> on vmware
> server now in version 2.0. Whenever i try to boot, i got
> the following
> errors at the end :
> Activating logical volumes
>     VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found
> Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
> Creating root device
> Mounting root file system
> mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3. No
> such file or directory
> Setting up other filesystems
> setuproot: moving /dev failed:No such file or directory
> setuproot: error mounting/proc: No such file or directory
> setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory
> Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such file or
> directory
> Switching to new root and running init
> swithroot: mount failed: No such file or directory
> Booting has failed
> 
> Boot works fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but fails also
> with 2.6.27-1.
> I have looked at the thread related to ext4 but i am using
> ext3. I
> have also tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no change.
> Any idea of
> what the problem could be ?
> 
> -- 
> BeGe
> 
> -- 

Try uninstalling the kernel and reinstalling it via yum.
I tried several times and succeeded :) 

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 20:34:21 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:34:21 -0400
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <67437bc40810101709y6d260285gd9ee09619835ba54@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1474819490.2289721223680139256.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<67437bc40810101709y6d260285gd9ee09619835ba54@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810111334x5893c4bbv37b9a75abe7433ff@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Joshua Daniel Franklin
<jdf.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bressers wrote:
>> the command 'chkconfig <service> off" replacing <service> with an actual
>> name.  For example 'chkconfig setroubleshoot off'.
>
> Thanks! And make it easy on yourselves:
>
> for i in setroubleshoot sendmail rsyslog rpcidmapd rpcgssd rpcbind
> portreserve nfslock netfs mdmonitor kerneloops irqbalance cups
> bluetooth avahi-daemon auditd; do
> chkconfig $i off
> done

I repartitioned my SD with parted. Slice 1 is 2G fat32 bootable, slice
2 is 512M linux-swap, and slice 3 is 1.5G fat32 (unused)

I `bash livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --xo --extra-kernel-args 3
/tmp/olpc-gnome.iso /dev/sddd1`, but added --overlay-size-mb 1024
(maybe this should have been 2048).

Mounted it and changed the olpc.fth to boot to single-user, booted the
XO with the new card, ran the above command, shutdown, reedited
olpc.fth and booted the XO again, but nothing took, i.e. sendmail,
rpcbind, etc. all started.

Any suggestions?

/Blake



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sat Oct 11 20:55:53 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:55:53 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: /dev/snd/* permissions/ownership incorrect
In-Reply-To: <48F02DA6.70309@fedoraproject.org>
References: <48F023DB.8060706@conversis.de> <48F02DA6.70309@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810112252070.22406@sandbox.cz>

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Dennis J. wrote:
>> Since I updated to the latest packages in koji a few days ago the device 
>> nodes in /dev/snd/* no longer seem to have the right ownership/permissions 
>> which causes audio playback through alsa to fail. Doing a "chmod o+rw 
>> /dev/snd/*" makes audio work again.
>> 
>> What package is responsible for setting this up correctly so I can file bug 
>> against it?
>
> My guess would be ConsoleKit

Yes and no. In past this happend to several sound cards too, root cause 
was that kernel /sys structure had changed, the HAL was not able to find 
the hardware, and the sound devices were not set correctly. CosoleKit 
takes the info from HAL, which is not aware of the card and does not set 
the permissions. Quick try: lshal | grep alsa

>
> Rahul

Adam Pribyl



From caf at omen.com  Sat Oct 11 21:04:14 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:04:14 -0700
Subject: Rawhide Cleared "Unreadable" Partition Table without Permission 
 etc.
Message-ID: <48F114CE.7040702@omen.com>

Today's Rawhide install worked with pxeboot.  I installed it to
a new partition on the fourth drive but somehow Rawhide
cleared the first drive's partition table despite being told not to.

I was able to reset the Windows partition with fdisk.

At this point I was able to do a graphical Rawhide 32 install
on the Intel DG45ID motherboard.  The previous problems
of the image download stalling and the computer locking
up did not appear.  I am typing this on the new install.
The ethernet works.  Compiz works with the motherboard
video.  Sound output works after setting the volume.

Congratulations!  Getting close.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From michal at harddata.com  Sat Oct 11 21:12:52 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:12:52 -0600
Subject: More on "Unreadable" Partition Tables
In-Reply-To: <20081011191145.GI10204@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <48F0DF34.5070906@omen.com>
	<db64ccf0810111025n1454e4efsf9d24b663632c0ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081011180647.GH10204@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<20081011183454.GA5381@mail.harddata.com>
	<20081011191145.GI10204@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <20081011211252.GA7053@mail.harddata.com>

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 03:11:45PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> 
> I wasn't aware that it was legal to punch a hole in an extended 
> partition with a non-extended partition.

That is why I think that this sda4 is not really a primary
and only something gets really confused.  You are right
that checking an output of 'sfdisk -dx /dev/sda' would be
highly advisable.  Maybe a content of a file system on
the current /dev/sda4 should be saved and restored later?

    Michal



From gayleard at eircom.net  Sat Oct 11 21:37:57 2008
From: gayleard at eircom.net (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:37:57 +0100
Subject: Fedora-10 does not like me
References: <gcq78q$l4f$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<562974.39653.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <gcr6bl$n39$1@ger.gmane.org>

Antonio Olivares wrote:

> --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net> wrote:

>> I've had rather disappointing experiences with F-10
>> beta.
>> I tried to install on the hard disk of a Thinkpad T43,
>> but the mouse/pointer was not visible.
>> Installation in text mode crashed after installing all the
>> packages.
>> 
>> I tried the KDE Live CD in a couple of very different
>> computers,
>> but neither was stable.
>> In both cases the problem seemed to lie with X.

> X has been updated, can you attempt a network install or try to rescue the
> installed system which crashed towards the end?

I'll try this, but one problem is that I would not know
whether I had missed anything important after the crash.



-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland



From dennisml at conversis.de  Sat Oct 11 22:40:32 2008
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:40:32 +0200
Subject: /dev/snd/* permissions/ownership incorrect
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810112252070.22406@sandbox.cz>
References: <48F023DB.8060706@conversis.de> <48F02DA6.70309@fedoraproject.org>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810112252070.22406@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <48F12B60.6020706@conversis.de>

On 10/11/2008 10:55 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>> Dennis J. wrote:
>>> Since I updated to the latest packages in koji a few days ago the
>>> device nodes in /dev/snd/* no longer seem to have the right
>>> ownership/permissions which causes audio playback through alsa to
>>> fail. Doing a "chmod o+rw /dev/snd/*" makes audio work again.
>>>
>>> What package is responsible for setting this up correctly so I can
>>> file bug against it?
>>
>> My guess would be ConsoleKit
>
> Yes and no. In past this happend to several sound cards too, root cause
> was that kernel /sys structure had changed, the HAL was not able to find
> the hardware, and the sound devices were not set correctly. CosoleKit
> takes the info from HAL, which is not aware of the card and does not set
> the permissions. Quick try: lshal | grep alsa

HAL seems to detect the card correctly:

udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0'
   alsa.card = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   alsa.card_id = 'M Audio Audiophile 24/96'  (string)
   alsa.device = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   alsa.device_file = '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p'  (string)
   alsa.device_id = 'ICE1712 multi'  (string)
   alsa.originating_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0'  (string)
   alsa.pcm_class = 'generic'  (string)
   alsa.type = 'playback'  (string)
   info.capabilities = {'alsa', 'access_control'} (string list)
   info.category = 'alsa'  (string)
   info.udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0' 
(string)
udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0'
   alsa.card = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   alsa.card_id = 'M Audio Audiophile 24/96'  (string)
   alsa.device = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   alsa.device_file = '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c'  (string)
   alsa.device_id = 'ICE1712 multi'  (string)
   alsa.originating_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0'  (string)
   alsa.pcm_class = 'generic'  (string)
   alsa.type = 'capture'  (string)
   info.capabilities = {'alsa', 'access_control'} (string list)
   info.category = 'alsa'  (string)
   info.udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0' 
(string)
udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0_alsa_midi_0'
   alsa.card = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   alsa.card_id = 'M Audio Audiophile 24/96'  (string)
   alsa.device = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   alsa.device_file = '/dev/snd/midiC0D0'  (string)
   alsa.originating_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0'  (string)
   alsa.type = 'midi'  (string)
   info.capabilities = {'alsa', 'access_control'} (string list)
   info.category = 'alsa'  (string)
   info.udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0_alsa_midi_0'  (string)
udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0_alsa_control__1'
   alsa.card = 0  (0x0)  (int)
   alsa.card_id = 'M Audio Audiophile 24/96'  (string)
   alsa.device_file = '/dev/snd/controlC0'  (string)
   alsa.originating_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0'  (string)
   alsa.type = 'control'  (string)
   info.capabilities = {'alsa', 'access_control'} (string list)
   info.category = 'alsa'  (string)
   info.udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712_sound_card_0_alsa_control__1' 
(string)

BTW I found this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=332781
and when I apply the changes in comment #17 things are set up correctly 
once I log into my X session. That bug is quite old though and I'm not sure 
if this way of fixing this has been supplanted by ConsoleKit in the mean time.

Regards,
   Dennis



From caf at omen.com  Sat Oct 11 23:08:13 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:08:13 -0700
Subject: Linux outputs sound on line INPUT jack  - Intel DG45ID
Message-ID: <48F131DD.5080304@omen.com>

A number of newer motherboards detect the insertion of audio
connectors into their jacks.  A Windows popup then asks the user
WHAT was plugged in, and makes the appropriate connection
in the audio chip.

Linux does not seem to respond to an audio cable plugged in to the
line input connector.  None of the alsa utilities I could find and run
addressed this issue.

Linux should initialize the audio hardware so input jacks work as input
jacks.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From crainey at cvalley.net  Sun Oct 12 00:46:32 2008
From: crainey at cvalley.net (Cory Rainey)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:32 -0500
Subject: vmware VM with kernel 2.6.27-1
Message-ID: <48F148E8.4000204@cvalley.net>

Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:55:32 +0200 From: "Bruno GARDIN" 
<bgardin at gmail.com> Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398 
To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" 
<fedora-test-list at redhat.com> Message-ID: 
<4a2527c40810111055h3c7b9e7bqb3fd93de477b7cbc at mail.gmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am testing rawhide for a 
few month now but i have problem of boot since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My 
rawhide is a virtual system on vmware server now in version 2.0. 
Whenever i try to boot, i got the following errors at the end : 
Activating logical volumes VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found Unable to 
access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01) Creating root device 
Mounting root file system mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as 
ext3. No such file or directory Setting up other filesystems setuproot: 
moving /dev failed:No such file or directory setuproot: error 
mounting/proc: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /sys: 
No such file or directory Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No 
such file or directory Switching to new root and running init swithroot: 
mount failed: No such file or directory Booting has failed Boot works 
fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but fails also with 2.6.27-1. I have 
looked at the thread related to ext4 but i am using ext3. I have also 
tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no change. Any idea of what the 
problem could be ?
-- BeGe

Exactly same problem here.



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 02:38:49 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:38:49 -0400
Subject: Linux outputs sound on line INPUT jack  - Intel DG45ID
In-Reply-To: <48F131DD.5080304@omen.com>
References: <48F131DD.5080304@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1223779129.31044.7.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 16:08 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> A number of newer motherboards detect the insertion of audio
> connectors into their jacks.  A Windows popup then asks the user
> WHAT was plugged in, and makes the appropriate connection
> in the audio chip.
> 
> Linux does not seem to respond to an audio cable plugged in to the
> line input connector.  None of the alsa utilities I could find and run
> addressed this issue.
> 
> Linux should initialize the audio hardware so input jacks work as input
> jacks.

http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
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From jamundso at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 03:08:48 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:08:48 -0500
Subject: Linux outputs sound on line INPUT jack - Intel DG45ID
In-Reply-To: <1223779129.31044.7.camel@ignacio.lan>
References: <48F131DD.5080304@omen.com> <1223779129.31044.7.camel@ignacio.lan>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810112008x58fad4cfu3c02eb2953c120b2@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
<ivazqueznet at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 16:08 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
>> A number of newer motherboards detect the insertion of audio
>> connectors into their jacks.  A Windows popup then asks the user
>> WHAT was plugged in, and makes the appropriate connection
>> in the audio chip.
>>
>> Linux does not seem to respond to an audio cable plugged in to the
>> line input connector.  None of the alsa utilities I could find and run
>> addressed this issue.
>>
>> Linux should initialize the audio hardware so input jacks work as input
>> jacks.
>
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel

That's not helpful. The most recent post I found referencing said mobo
is http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-September/010277.html

Is that what you meant? Does it have meaning to this particular problem?

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From jeff at ocjtech.us  Sun Oct 12 03:42:26 2008
From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:42:26 -0500
Subject: Linux outputs sound on line INPUT jack - Intel DG45ID
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810112008x58fad4cfu3c02eb2953c120b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F131DD.5080304@omen.com> <1223779129.31044.7.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<6d06ce20810112008x58fad4cfu3c02eb2953c120b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <935ead450810112042w5583eeb8yf489b2ca572249da@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>
> That's not helpful. The most recent post I found referencing said mobo
> is http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-September/010277.html
>
> Is that what you meant? Does it have meaning to this particular problem?

I think that what Ignacio meant is that support for this particular
feature does not exist in Alsa at this time (at least not in the
version Fedora ships) and that anyone interested in getting this
feature in Alsa should work with the upstream Alsa developers to get
this feature into Alsa.  Once it's in Alsa, it'll be in Fedora.
Fedora has been pretty good about shipping the latest released Alsa
version.

-- 
Jeff Ollie

"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then
I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve
them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and
unfairness of the universe."

	-- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon"



From jwilliam at xmission.com  Sun Oct 12 04:59:40 2008
From: jwilliam at xmission.com (Jerry Williams)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:59:40 -0600
Subject: F10 No Shutdown in Gnome?
Message-ID: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>

I noticed there is only a logout in the Snap1 Live images.

I used:

    http://sdz.fedorapeople.org/olpc/liveusb-creator-3.0.zip

to put it on a USB drive under Windows.

So how are you suppose to shutdown a box?


Also I get this message now when I boot on new snap1 and some times my
laptop boots and sometimes it just sits here.
don't' know how to make device "loop2"
don't' know how to make device "loop3"
don't' know how to make device "loop4"
don't' know how to make device "loop5"
don't' know how to make device "loop6"
don't' know how to make device "loop7"
don't' know how to make device "lp1"
don't' know how to make device "lp2"
don't' know how to make device "lp3"




From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 07:19:30 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:19:30 +0200
Subject: F10 No Shutdown in Gnome?
In-Reply-To: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
References: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810120019v135ddefr198649c0e3e580f9@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/12 Jerry Williams <jwilliam at xmission.com>:
> I noticed there is only a logout in the Snap1 Live images.
>
> I used:
>
>    http://sdz.fedorapeople.org/olpc/liveusb-creator-3.0.zip
>
> to put it on a USB drive under Windows.
>
> So how are you suppose to shutdown a box?
>
>
> Also I get this message now when I boot on new snap1 and some times my
> laptop boots and sometimes it just sits here.
> don't' know how to make device "loop2"
> don't' know how to make device "loop3"
> don't' know how to make device "loop4"
> don't' know how to make device "loop5"
> don't' know how to make device "loop6"
> don't' know how to make device "loop7"
> don't' know how to make device "lp1"
> don't' know how to make device "lp2"
> don't' know how to make device "lp3"
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
same on a normal box...
furthermore my italian keyboard is recognized as an USA keyboard.
This is another cyclyc recurring bug!!!! I doubt that also rawhide
should be so cyclic in bugs....


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 09:15:41 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:15:41 +0200
Subject: F10 No Shutdown in Gnome?
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810120019v135ddefr198649c0e3e580f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
	<4c37b6af0810120019v135ddefr198649c0e3e580f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810120215g226aa4e5y89de70a04e1c5bd8@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/12 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/12 Jerry Williams <jwilliam at xmission.com>:
>> I noticed there is only a logout in the Snap1 Live images.
>>
>> I used:
>>
>>    http://sdz.fedorapeople.org/olpc/liveusb-creator-3.0.zip
>>
>> to put it on a USB drive under Windows.
>>
>> So how are you suppose to shutdown a box?
>>
>>
>> Also I get this message now when I boot on new snap1 and some times my
>> laptop boots and sometimes it just sits here.
>> don't' know how to make device "loop2"
>> don't' know how to make device "loop3"
>> don't' know how to make device "loop4"
>> don't' know how to make device "loop5"
>> don't' know how to make device "loop6"
>> don't' know how to make device "loop7"
>> don't' know how to make device "lp1"
>> don't' know how to make device "lp2"
>> don't' know how to make device "lp3"
>>
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
> same on a normal box...
> furthermore my italian keyboard is recognized as an USA keyboard.
> This is another cyclyc recurring bug!!!! I doubt that also rawhide
> should be so cyclic in bugs....
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

 I think that keyboard behaviour and udev are connected....is udev buggy???

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 09:23:30 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:23:30 +0200
Subject: F10 No Shutdown in Gnome?
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810120215g226aa4e5y89de70a04e1c5bd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
	<4c37b6af0810120019v135ddefr198649c0e3e580f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810120215g226aa4e5y89de70a04e1c5bd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810120223t5391fd5es2738d1f033556d44@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/12 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/12 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/12 Jerry Williams <jwilliam at xmission.com>:
>>> I noticed there is only a logout in the Snap1 Live images.
>>>
>>> I used:
>>>
>>>    http://sdz.fedorapeople.org/olpc/liveusb-creator-3.0.zip
>>>
>>> to put it on a USB drive under Windows.
>>>
>>> So how are you suppose to shutdown a box?
>>>
>>>
>>> Also I get this message now when I boot on new snap1 and some times my
>>> laptop boots and sometimes it just sits here.
>>> don't' know how to make device "loop2"
>>> don't' know how to make device "loop3"
>>> don't' know how to make device "loop4"
>>> don't' know how to make device "loop5"
>>> don't' know how to make device "loop6"
>>> don't' know how to make device "loop7"
>>> don't' know how to make device "lp1"
>>> don't' know how to make device "lp2"
>>> don't' know how to make device "lp3"
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> To unsubscribe:
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>
>> same on a normal box...
>> furthermore my italian keyboard is recognized as an USA keyboard.
>> This is another cyclyc recurring bug!!!! I doubt that also rawhide
>> should be so cyclic in bugs....
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>
>  I think that keyboard behaviour and udev are connected....is udev buggy???
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

 Bug 434669 -  keyboard layout not correctly detected  again????

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From denis at poolshark.org  Sun Oct 12 09:35:38 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:35:38 +0200
Subject: F10 No Shutdown in Gnome?
In-Reply-To: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
References: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
Message-ID: <48F1C4EA.1090607@poolshark.org>

Jerry Williams wrote:
> I noticed there is only a logout in the Snap1 Live images.
> 
> I used:
> 
>     http://sdz.fedorapeople.org/olpc/liveusb-creator-3.0.zip
> 
> to put it on a USB drive under Windows.
> 
> So how are you suppose to shutdown a box?

I think that's been fixed already...



From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 09:48:32 2008
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:48:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Wireless N, WPA and kernel 2.6.26 (amd .27)?
Message-ID: <loom.20081012T094217-66@post.gmane.org>

I have seen some reports of connection problems when running laptops with iwl4965
wireless to Access Points running 802.11N when using WPA (WPA2) encryption
with kernel 2.6.26 (or 2.6.27). Apparently these problems came to light only
with these newer kernels and 2.6.25 ran successfully.

Before deciding on whether to upgrade my wireless access points to newer
wireless N capable boxes I would appreciate hearing of any other user
experiences confirming whether anyone has been able to successfully connect
via WPA to a Wireless N access point with the newer series of kernels.

If there have been problems in this regard then any useful pointers to 
workarounds would be appreciated.

I have been running the newer kernels to wireless G access points without
any problems at all but wireless N is quite new so the experiences of others
would be useful knowledge.



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 12 10:14:05 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:14:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081012 changes
Message-ID: <20081012101405.C9AC01F81DF@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun Oct 12 06:01:13 UTC 2008

New package notify-sharp
        A C# implementation for Desktop Notifications
New package sugar-browse
        Browse activity for Sugar
Updated Packages:

cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.1.svn1346_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1346


filezilla-3.1.4-0.1.rc1.fc10
----------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.1.4-0.1.rc1
- Update to 3.1.4-rc1


gcstar-1.4.3-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Tian <tian at c-sait.net> - 1.4.3-1
-  Bug 466364
  - New upstream version http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/gcstar/tags/GCstar_1_4_3/CHANGELOG


gnome-applet-netspeed-0.15.2-1.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Julian Sikorski <belegdol[at]gmail[dot]com> - 0.15.2-1
- Updated to 0.15.2
- Dropped upstreamed patch


gnome-media-2.24.0.1-2.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com>  2.24.0.1-2
- Save some space


libpst-0.6.20-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Carl Byington <carl at five-ten-sg.com> - 0.6.20-1
- add configure option --enable-dii=no to remove dependency on libgd.
- many fixes in pst2ldif by Robert Harris.
- add -D option to include deleted items, from Justin Greer
- fix from Justin Greer to add missing email headers
- fix from Justin Greer for my_stristr()
- fix for orphan children when building descriptor tree
- avoid writing uninitialized data to debug log file
- remove unreachable code
- create dummy top-of-folder descriptor if needed for corrupt pst files


mod_mono-2.0-6.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-6
- use var run instead of tmp
- added additional Requires


ocsinventory-1.02-0.8.rc3.fc10
------------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> 1.02-0.8.rc3
- last minute patch

* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> 1.02-0.7.rc3
- update to RC3


openoffice.org-3.0.0-9.3.fc10
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Caol??n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1:3.0.0-9.3
- Resolves: rhbz#465664 need lucene for runtime help search


planet-2.0-6.fc10
-----------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Richard Dawe <rich at phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> - 2.0-6
- Regenerate shebang patch to apply without fuzz.


prelude-lml-0.9.13-2.fc10
-------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 0.9.13-2
- improved mod_security rules


pysvn-1.6.1-2.fc10
------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Caitlyn O'Hanna <ravenoak at virtualxistenz.com> - 1.6.1-2
- Fixed lingering module versioning in __init__


python-html2text-2.34-1.1
-------------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora [AT] leemhuis [DOT] info> - 2.34-1
- update to 2.34


python-peak-rules-0.5a1.dev-0.1.2581.fc10
-----------------------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.5a1.dev-0.1.2581
- Update to the latest 0.5a1 development snapshot
- Fix the description


schedtool-1.3.0-1.fc10
----------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 1.3.0-1
- Update to 1.3.0


xapian-bindings-1.0.8-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 1.0.8-1
- Update to 1.0.8


xapian-core-1.0.8-1.fc10
------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 1.0.8-1
- Update to 1.0.8


xdvik-22.84.14-3.fc10
---------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 22.84.14-3
- Fix package build breakage

* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 22.84.14-2
- Fix previous spec file changelog entry
- Fix Japanese font handling (BZ 465391) by reworking pxdvi patch


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	python-prioritized-methods-0.2.1-1.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2562
	python-turbojson-1.2.1-2.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2555
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 12 10:29:35 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:59:35 +0530
Subject: MobaLiveCD - Qemu on Windows
Message-ID: <48F1D18F.1000705@fedoraproject.org>

Hi

http://mobalivecd.mobatek.net/en/

Essentially this seems to be application that enables you to use Qemu on 
Windows to boot up live cd's. I have no access to Windows systems and 
have not tested it but if you do, let me know how well it works.

Rahul



From drago01 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 10:40:03 2008
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:40:03 +0200
Subject: MobaLiveCD - Qemu on Windows
In-Reply-To: <48F1D18F.1000705@fedoraproject.org>
References: <48F1D18F.1000705@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0810120340q1c924744i3b230f97d64f3450@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> http://mobalivecd.mobatek.net/en/
>
> Essentially this seems to be application that enables you to use Qemu on
> Windows to boot up live cd's. I have no access to Windows systems and have
> not tested it but if you do, let me know how well it works.
>
> Rahul

qemu has always been available for windows...



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 10:45:12 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:45:12 +0100
Subject: Wireless N, WPA and kernel 2.6.26 (amd .27)?
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081012T094217-66@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20081012T094217-66@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810120345i27e8fd5du497b07f2dc379448@mail.gmail.com>

> I have seen some reports of connection problems when running laptops with iwl4965
> wireless to Access Points running 802.11N when using WPA (WPA2) encryption
> with kernel 2.6.26 (or 2.6.27). Apparently these problems came to light only
> with these newer kernels and 2.6.25 ran successfully.
>
> Before deciding on whether to upgrade my wireless access points to newer
> wireless N capable boxes I would appreciate hearing of any other user
> experiences confirming whether anyone has been able to successfully connect
> via WPA to a Wireless N access point with the newer series of kernels.
>
> If there have been problems in this regard then any useful pointers to
> workarounds would be appreciated.
>
> I have been running the newer kernels to wireless G access points without
> any problems at all but wireless N is quite new so the experiences of others
> would be useful knowledge.

I think the issue your talking about is covered in the following RHBZ
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457154

Peter



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Sun Oct 12 12:00:22 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:00:22 +0200
Subject: CDT feature not showing up in Eclipse for fc10
Message-ID: <48F1E6D6.3040700@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

After making a baseline install of fc10 I yum installed eclipse-cdt. 
However, cdt is not listed as one of my features and I don't have a c 
editor. What else is required to make cdt work?

I currently have the following eclipse packages installed
eclipse-cdt
eclipse-ecj
eclipse-platform
eclipse-rcp
eclipse-swt



From mclasen at redhat.com  Sun Oct 12 14:19:54 2008
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:19:54 -0400
Subject: F10 No Shutdown in Gnome?
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810120019v135ddefr198649c0e3e580f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
	<4c37b6af0810120019v135ddefr198649c0e3e580f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223821194.3548.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 09:19 +0200, Antonio M wrote:

> furthermore my italian keyboard is recognized as an USA keyboard.
> This is another cyclyc recurring bug!!!! I doubt that also rawhide
> should be so cyclic in bugs....

What version of gnome-settings-daemon do you have ?
Are you selecting a keyboard layout on the login screen, or do you leave
the login screen as US, and rely on your session settings to switch to
IT ?





From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 14:44:03 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:44:03 +0200
Subject: F10 No Shutdown in Gnome?
In-Reply-To: <1223821194.3548.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
	<4c37b6af0810120019v135ddefr198649c0e3e580f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223821194.3548.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810120744t63ad9d15yf1eefeb7746d1d97@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/12 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com>:
> On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 09:19 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
>
>> furthermore my italian keyboard is recognized as an USA keyboard.
>> This is another cyclyc recurring bug!!!! I doubt that also rawhide
>> should be so cyclic in bugs....
>
> What version of gnome-settings-daemon do you have ?
> Are you selecting a keyboard layout on the login screen, or do you leave
> the login screen as US, and rely on your session settings to switch to
> IT ?
>
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
gnome-settings-daemon-2.24.0-5.fc10.i386

Something happened during yesterday's updates as I worked for a long
time with no issue about language (i.e. in italian) : this morning
while typing a document I realized that my keyboard was USA and as
user I added the italian keyboard and switched to that.
As a different user, I choose It at login screen.
Now I have to reboot to see if everything is o.k.: I will report later


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 14:48:27 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:48:27 +0200
Subject: F10 No Shutdown in Gnome?
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810120744t63ad9d15yf1eefeb7746d1d97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
	<4c37b6af0810120019v135ddefr198649c0e3e580f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223821194.3548.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4c37b6af0810120744t63ad9d15yf1eefeb7746d1d97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810120748p4c36311dw4c619170f2c2fe22@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/12 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/12 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com>:
>> On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 09:19 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
>>
>>> furthermore my italian keyboard is recognized as an USA keyboard.
>>> This is another cyclyc recurring bug!!!! I doubt that also rawhide
>>> should be so cyclic in bugs....
>>
>> What version of gnome-settings-daemon do you have ?
>> Are you selecting a keyboard layout on the login screen, or do you leave
>> the login screen as US, and rely on your session settings to switch to
>> IT ?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
> gnome-settings-daemon-2.24.0-5.fc10.i386
>
> Something happened during yesterday's updates as I worked for a long
> time with no issue about language (i.e. in italian) : this morning
> while typing a document I realized that my keyboard was USA and as
> user I added the italian keyboard and switched to that.
> As a different user, I choose It at login screen.
> Now I have to reboot to see if everything is o.k.: I will report later
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
I rebooted and setting are not changed....I understand that during
some update, setting were changed, am I correct???


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From partha1b at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 15:23:01 2008
From: partha1b at gmail.com (Partha Bagchi)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:23:01 -0400
Subject: Wireless N, WPA and kernel 2.6.26 (amd .27)?
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810120345i27e8fd5du497b07f2dc379448@mail.gmail.com>
References: <loom.20081012T094217-66@post.gmane.org>
	<5256d0b0810120345i27e8fd5du497b07f2dc379448@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e14212e0810120823l48148a7ena3ef2e37a59fa598@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have seen some reports of connection problems when running laptops with iwl4965
>> wireless to Access Points running 802.11N when using WPA (WPA2) encryption
>> with kernel 2.6.26 (or 2.6.27). Apparently these problems came to light only
>> with these newer kernels and 2.6.25 ran successfully.
>>
>> Before deciding on whether to upgrade my wireless access points to newer
>> wireless N capable boxes I would appreciate hearing of any other user
>> experiences confirming whether anyone has been able to successfully connect
>> via WPA to a Wireless N access point with the newer series of kernels.
>>
>> If there have been problems in this regard then any useful pointers to
>> workarounds would be appreciated.
>>
>> I have been running the newer kernels to wireless G access points without
>> any problems at all but wireless N is quite new so the experiences of others
>> would be useful knowledge.
>
> I think the issue your talking about is covered in the following RHBZ
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457154
>
> Peter
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

And this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465696. There
has been no response to this either.

Hope we can get N-routers (and my card ath9k) working with FC10.

Thanks,
Partha



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 15:44:44 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:14:44 +0530
Subject: F10-Snapshot-X86_64-KDE
Message-ID: <78323d480810120844y7461c7adheadf490e9f27c22a@mail.gmail.com>

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I tried the latest one (released yesterday).

TEST-1, 2

System: AMD dual core Athlon ATI690G
RAM: 4 GB (Dual Channel DDR2)
Graphics: Radeon X1200 (integrated) &  Card Radeon 2400
Hard Disk: SATA Seagate   AHCI

Extra Boot Time Kernel Parameters: NONE

Messages:
Did see things like
don't' know how to make device "loop2"
don't' know how to make device "loop3"

Otherwise starts lots of  services by default...ALL "[OK]"


ISSUES:

1. Does not load the correct driver module (radeon) for the IG card
and also the other one.
2. Monitor resolution (Philips 17inch) not correctly detected ...
apparently due to Belkins KVM

resolution was 640x..?
3. kde seems to freeze after a minute or so. Cannot be rectified by
restarting the x-server. Opening a terminal (from keyboard) results in
a black screen

- ---------------
TEST-3

Boot to run level 3
modprobe radeon
Startx
SAME ISSUES

Checked lsmod, dmesg ... not clear
(will follow up)
- ------------------------


Fedora-9 is fine on the same system (no boot time kernel parameters
required) with 3D acceleration etc...had to set up all the graphics
myself though.


Best

A. Mani


-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



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From loupgaroublond at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 16:17:48 2008
From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:17:48 -0400
Subject: MobaLiveCD - Qemu on Windows
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0810120340q1c924744i3b230f97d64f3450@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F1D18F.1000705@fedoraproject.org>
	<f6ca9fed0810120340q1c924744i3b230f97d64f3450@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7f692fec0810120917y186990cen38cad80cd49d6a20@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 6:40 AM, drago01 <drago01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Rahul Sundaram
> <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> http://mobalivecd.mobatek.net/en/
>>
>> Essentially this seems to be application that enables you to use Qemu on
>> Windows to boot up live cd's. I have no access to Windows systems and have
>> not tested it but if you do, let me know how well it works.
>>
>> Rahul
>
> qemu has always been available for windows...

Without booting up an actual windows machine just to test it, this
definitely looks much easier to a new user though.  You can't discount
that sort of influence ease of use would have.

Too bad it's freeware and not open source.  (Rahul, getting this open
source might be an interesting project, for another mailing list,
perhaps :) .)

-Yaakov



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 16:43:47 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:43:47 -0400
Subject: Linux outputs sound on line INPUT jack - Intel DG45ID
In-Reply-To: <935ead450810112042w5583eeb8yf489b2ca572249da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F131DD.5080304@omen.com> <1223779129.31044.7.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<6d06ce20810112008x58fad4cfu3c02eb2953c120b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<935ead450810112042w5583eeb8yf489b2ca572249da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223829827.5459.21.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 22:42 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >
> > That's not helpful. The most recent post I found referencing said mobo
> > is http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-September/010277.html
> >
> > Is that what you meant? Does it have meaning to this particular problem?
> 
> I think that what Ignacio meant is that support for this particular
> feature does not exist in Alsa at this time (at least not in the
> version Fedora ships) and that anyone interested in getting this
> feature in Alsa should work with the upstream Alsa developers to get
> this feature into Alsa.  Once it's in Alsa, it'll be in Fedora.
> Fedora has been pretty good about shipping the latest released Alsa
> version.

This.

My apologies for posting while dead tired.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
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From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Sun Oct 12 17:31:51 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:31:51 -0400
Subject: kernel 2.6.26.6-67.fc9
In-Reply-To: <1223729063.3183.7.camel@karlworkstation>
References: <1223729063.3183.7.camel@karlworkstation>
Message-ID: <1223832711.7723.139.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>

On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 14:44 +0200, Carlo Raudino wrote:
> Today (after using the old RC1) I installed the kernel-2.6.26.6-67.fc9
> from koji....

> I think is very stable, for now it's running without troubles.

> Has anyone encountered problems?

	Nope.  No problems here.  And this appears to fix the IPSec related
random kernel hangs in 2.6.26.5 that I've reported.

	https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466303

> I remember in .6 were dropped old patches... so it's a nice mantainance
> update.

> Will it be pushed to updates? :-)

	Sounds like it, or something very much like it, based on the comments
Dave Jones made in the bugzilla thread.

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	Mike
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From michal at harddata.com  Sun Oct 12 18:06:21 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:06:21 -0600
Subject: devices not made (was: F10 No Shutdown in Gnome?)
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810120215g226aa4e5y89de70a04e1c5bd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507D3089D36A43449611928887DC1BD3@Q9450>
	<4c37b6af0810120019v135ddefr198649c0e3e580f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810120215g226aa4e5y89de70a04e1c5bd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081012180621.GB13356@mail.harddata.com>

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:15:41AM +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> 2008/10/12 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> > 2008/10/12 Jerry Williams <jwilliam at xmission.com>:
> >>
> >> Also I get this message now when I boot on new snap1 and some times my
> >> laptop boots and sometimes it just sits here.
> >> don't' know how to make device "loop2"
....
> 
>  I think that keyboard behaviour and udev are connected....is udev buggy???

No, but MAKEDEV is.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466385

Back off to MAKEDEV-3.23-6, recreate after that an affected
initrd and you will not see "don't know how to make device ..."
anymore.

    Michal



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 18:31:55 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:31:55 -0500
Subject: Linux outputs sound on line INPUT jack - Intel DG45ID
In-Reply-To: <1223829827.5459.21.camel@ignacio.lan>
References: <48F131DD.5080304@omen.com> <1223779129.31044.7.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<6d06ce20810112008x58fad4cfu3c02eb2953c120b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<935ead450810112042w5583eeb8yf489b2ca572249da@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223829827.5459.21.camel@ignacio.lan>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810121131h19a1564an751b4a5297a16675@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
<ivazqueznet at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 22:42 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>> >
>> > That's not helpful. The most recent post I found referencing said mobo
>> > is http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-September/010277.html
>> >
>> > Is that what you meant? Does it have meaning to this particular problem?
>>
>> I think that what Ignacio meant is that support for this particular
>> feature does not exist in Alsa at this time (at least not in the
>> version Fedora ships) and that anyone interested in getting this
>> feature in Alsa should work with the upstream Alsa developers to get
>> this feature into Alsa.  Once it's in Alsa, it'll be in Fedora.
>> Fedora has been pretty good about shipping the latest released Alsa
>> version.
>
> This.
>
> My apologies for posting while dead tired.

No problem. My apologies for responding in same condition! ;-)

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From cra at WPI.EDU  Sun Oct 12 20:58:01 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:58:01 -0400
Subject: F9 & F10-Snap1 pulseaudio and underlying mixer channels
Message-ID: <20081012205801.GQ3000@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

I'm testing F10-Snap1, and I noticed that music was playing rather 
softly, even though I had the application volume and the master 
pulseaudio volume turned all the way up.  I ended up doing this:

1. mv /etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf /tmp
2. alsamixer
3. PCM was at 60% or so.  Turn it up all the way.
4. mv /tmp/pulse-default.conf /etc/alsa

Now I could hear my music.

I've seen a similar issue with F9 on this same laptop where no sound 
comes out at all until fiddling with the underlying ALSA channels.  I 
think this only happened after resume from hibernate, but I don't 
remember now.

Is this just a bug, or a design problem with pulseaudio hiding 
underlying mixer channels?  How would one expect to set the hardware 
mixer channels when pulseaudio hides them from the user?



From brianwitt at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 21:49:56 2008
From: brianwitt at gmail.com (Brian Witt)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:49:56 -0700
Subject: XO bricked?
Message-ID: <ed95e5c90810121449x183b3cegb801a921cf3a4c54@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Greg,

My XO seems to be bricked.  When I turn it on, all I get on the screen is

The clock is not set properly
Invalid system date
Stopping

and then a sad face.  A few moments later it turns off.

I tried flashing with the latest 767 build using the instructions at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure

but that didn't change anything.

I asked around on #olpc-help and they said I'd need to send it in to a
repair center to get it fixed.  Should I pursue that or is there
something special I should try first?

Thanks,
Brian

-- 
Brian Witt at gmail dot com



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 22:19:07 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:49:07 +0530
Subject: F9 & F10-Snap1 pulseaudio and underlying mixer channels
In-Reply-To: <20081012205801.GQ3000@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081012205801.GQ3000@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <78323d480810121519y68ad1b28y61d5144801db3e1@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
> I'm testing F10-Snap1, and I noticed that music was playing rather
> softly, even though I had the application volume and the master
> pulseaudio volume turned all the way up.  I ended up doing this:
>
> Is this just a bug, or a design problem with pulseaudio hiding
> underlying mixer channels?  How would one expect to set the hardware
> mixer channels when pulseaudio hides them from the user?
>

Most probably you need to add more options in your ALSA config files.
For example many cards that use the hda-intel module need them. See
the alsa site for the relevant ones.

The rest of the questions are relevant anyway.

Best

A. Mani



- --
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc


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From tom.horsley at att.net  Sun Oct 12 22:28:19 2008
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:28:19 -0400
Subject: What the heck is going on out there?
Message-ID: <20081012182819.374905a5@zooty>

I loaded latest rawhide updates on my f10 beta partition,
and didn't get around to rebooting for a day or two.

Of the many rpms installed, possibly relevant are:

kernel-2.6.27-3.fc10.x86_64
PackageKit-udev-helper-0.3.6-3.fc10.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.5.2-2.fc10.x86_64

Now when it boots, I get a bunch of messages right
after it says "starting udev" that say something like
"unable to create device loop1", loop2, etc. "unable
to create device lp1", lp2, etc. "unable to create device
nvidia1", nvidia 2, etc.

Then it gets through the rest of the service startup
messages and tries to bring up X, and just flickers
furiously for a while and hangs (but at least it isn't
hung hard - Ctrl-Alt-Del will reboot it).

If I try booting the previous kernel (which previously
worked fine), I see the same device errors at the
same point, so it doesn't appear to be a kernel specific
thing, but something installed in userland by the
latest updates.

I can boot at runlevel 3 and it doesn't hang, but I still
get the weird device messages at udev time.

Any clues?



From michal at harddata.com  Sun Oct 12 22:42:29 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:42:29 -0600
Subject: What the heck is going on out there?
In-Reply-To: <20081012182819.374905a5@zooty>
References: <20081012182819.374905a5@zooty>
Message-ID: <20081012224229.GB11363@mail.harddata.com>

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 06:28:19PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> 
> Now when it boots, I get a bunch of messages right
> after it says "starting udev" that say something like
> "unable to create device loop1", loop2, etc.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466385

That would be only third time and the second today?

   M.



From the.masch at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 22:56:20 2008
From: the.masch at gmail.com (Mario Chacon)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:56:20 -0300
Subject: F10 - gpk-Application - Idea
Message-ID: <93d66b780810121556o54d40132te40e46bd44e63b14@mail.gmail.com>

HI!
Is it possible that when i'm downloading a packages with
gpk-Application tell me total size to download?

Thanks...



From cra at WPI.EDU  Mon Oct 13 02:25:31 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:25:31 -0400
Subject: F9 & F10-Snap1 pulseaudio and underlying mixer channels
In-Reply-To: <78323d480810121519y68ad1b28y61d5144801db3e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20081012205801.GQ3000@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<78323d480810121519y68ad1b28y61d5144801db3e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081013022531.GC29893@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 03:49:07AM +0530, Mani A wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
> > I'm testing F10-Snap1, and I noticed that music was playing rather
> > softly, even though I had the application volume and the master
> > pulseaudio volume turned all the way up.  I ended up doing this:
> >
> > Is this just a bug, or a design problem with pulseaudio hiding
> > underlying mixer channels?  How would one expect to set the hardware
> > mixer channels when pulseaudio hides them from the user?
> >
> 
> Most probably you need to add more options in your ALSA config files.
> For example many cards that use the hda-intel module need them. See
> the alsa site for the relevant ones.
> 
> The rest of the questions are relevant anyway.

The problem seems to be that we have too many ways to control the 
volume--too many volume control applets--and the Pulseaudio Volume 
Control that was in the F10-Snap1 GNOME menu doesn't expose all the 
necessary sliders.

We need to settle on a single volume control applet that has all the 
required functionality.



From jwilliam at xmission.com  Mon Oct 13 03:45:23 2008
From: jwilliam at xmission.com (Jerry Williams)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:45:23 -0600
Subject: F10 Snap1 Verify and Boot?
Message-ID: <E0E5AA484EE84BFD88371FDFA72C4321@Q9450>

In F10 Snap1 it has the menu item Verify and Boot.
But with the Plymouth blue line it doesn't say pass or fail.
If I hit like the up arrow then I can see the percent and see the pass.
But if I don't hit a key how am I suppose to know that it passed or failed?
No new is good news?

Well I decided to copy a good .iso and use a hex editor on it and I changed
Fedora to RedHat, and if I hit the arrow key I get the message:

The media check is complete, the result is: FAIL.

It is not recommended to use this media.
Bug in intramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good Luck!

If I select Verify and Boot and then do press any keys.
I see the blue line just stops and I get a black screen.

Is that suppose to be friendly?




From atodorov at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 06:53:56 2008
From: atodorov at redhat.com (Alexander Todorov)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:53:56 +0300
Subject: XO: livecd-iso-to-disk.sh on rhel5 seems problematic
In-Reply-To: <48EECFEE.3090203@redhat.com>
References: <48EECFEE.3090203@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F2F084.3090105@redhat.com>

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Eric Sandeen wrote:
| I was trying to use Jeremy's livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script w/ the
| olpc-gnome.iso to get my XO up and running and it got very weird boot
| failures:
|
| Stuff like "<buffer at 800000>:2: Can't find word to replace"
| and "Can't open boot device"
|
| Running the script on an F8 box got it going properly.
|
| I'm not sure what the problem is at this point but just in case anyone
| else has had the same trouble...
|

I've seen live-iso-to-disk.sh do strange things on RHEL5 as well. The image was
written to media but couldn't boot. Trying the same thing on F9 worked without
problems.
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From spowd at bigpond.com  Mon Oct 13 06:56:02 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (greg)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:56:02 +1100
Subject: F9 & F10-Snap1 pulseaudio and underlying mixer channels
In-Reply-To: <20081013022531.GC29893@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081012205801.GQ3000@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<78323d480810121519y68ad1b28y61d5144801db3e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081013022531.GC29893@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <1223880962.7787.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 22:25 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 03:49:07AM +0530, Mani A wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
> > > I'm testing F10-Snap1, and I noticed that music was playing rather
> > > softly, even though I had the application volume and the master
> > > pulseaudio volume turned all the way up.  I ended up doing this:
> > >
> > > Is this just a bug, or a design problem with pulseaudio hiding
> > > underlying mixer channels?  How would one expect to set the hardware
> > > mixer channels when pulseaudio hides them from the user?
> > >
> > 
> > Most probably you need to add more options in your ALSA config files.
> > For example many cards that use the hda-intel module need them. See
> > the alsa site for the relevant ones.
> > 
> > The rest of the questions are relevant anyway.
> 
> The problem seems to be that we have too many ways to control the 
> volume--too many volume control applets--and the Pulseaudio Volume 
> Control that was in the F10-Snap1 GNOME menu doesn't expose all the 
> necessary sliders.
> 
> We need to settle on a single volume control applet that has all the 
> required functionality.
> 

thats probably better addressed to the Gnome Devs than the fedora
ones ...one has to ask themselves.. where is PulseAudio going in the
long run? cause if it is its probably better to get it Embedded into
Gnome which will get rid of all the other Volume Controls, 
-- 
Regards Greg 

http://www.fedoraforum.org/?



From atodorov at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 07:15:49 2008
From: atodorov at redhat.com (Alexander Todorov)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:15:49 +0300
Subject: Wireless not quite working on Asus EeePC 4G Surf
Message-ID: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com>

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Morning all,
i've been trying to make wireless work on my Asus EeePC, but no luck.

Below is some diagnostic output:

[root at localhost ~]# ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:C6:D8:E9:9F
~          inet addr:192.168.1.3  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
~          inet6 addr: fe80::21f:c6ff:fed8:e99f/64 Scope:Link
~          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
~          RX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
~          TX packets:106 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2
~          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
~          RX bytes:24327 (23.7 KiB)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
~          Memory:fbfc0000-fc000000

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
~          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
~          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
~          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
~          RX packets:1604 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
~          TX packets:1604 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
~          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
~          RX bytes:80360 (78.4 KiB)  TX bytes:80360 (78.4 KiB)

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:AF:A7:87:5F
~          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
~          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
~          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
~          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
~          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr
00-15-AF-A7-87-5F-F4-FF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
~          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
~          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
~          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
~          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
~          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

[root at localhost ~]# lsmod | grep ath
ath5k                 111240  0
mac80211              174312  1 ath5k
cfg80211               24584  2 ath5k,mac80211

[root at localhost ~]# tail -f /var/log/messages
Oct 13 10:06:26 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  wlan0: driver supports SSID
scans (scan_capa 0x01).
Oct 13 10:06:26 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  Found new 802.11 WiFi device
'wlan0'.
Oct 13 10:06:26 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): exported as
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_15_af_a7_87_5f_0
Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): device state change:
1 -> 2
Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): bringing up device.
Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): preparing device.
Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): deactivating device.
Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): device state change:
2 -> 3
Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): supplicant interface
state change: 1 -> 2.

[root at localhost ~]# rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686


Now everything looks good except the line
Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready

I have another laptop with Atheros card with the same software configuration (F9
+ latest updates) and it just works fine while on the eeepc NM doesn't detect
any wireless networks. I wasn't able to find any useful information on the web
except installing mad-wifi which I think is not needed with the latest kernel
anymore. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Alexander.
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From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Mon Oct 13 07:57:54 2008
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:57:54 -0400
Subject: Wireless not quite working on Asus EeePC 4G Surf
In-Reply-To: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com>
References: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081013075754.GB7449@mail.scottro.net>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:15:49AM +0300, Alexander Todorov wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
>
> Morning all,
> i've been trying to make wireless work on my Asus EeePC, but no luck.

>
> + latest updates) and it just works fine while on the eeepc NM doesn't detect
> any wireless networks. I wasn't able to find any useful information on the web
> except installing mad-wifi which I think is not needed with the latest kernel
> anymore. Any help is appreciated.

If you mean the 2.6.27-x kernels, you are correct, you will not need
MadWifi drivers, though you might have to manually insert the ath5k
module.  

However, at least one other person, as well as myself, had the following
experience with F10 and the Aspire One, which uses the same AR5007EG
card.  (I'm not really familiar with the Asus line.  I assume the 4 gig
surf is one of the earlier ones with that card.  The newest 901 and 1000
use a Realtek card.)

The card would be recognized, but would only work with unencrypted
networks with the live CD.  We had to upgrade the kernel before it would
work properly. 

For what it's worth, though I've had no trouble with the builtin 2.6.27
ath5k driver after the upgrade, some people on the Aspire One forums
have found, with Ubuntu at least, that though it would sometimes work,
they were better off still using the latest MadWifi snapshots.  However,
with the 2.6.27 kernels, this shouldn't be necessary.  So, you might
try that if all else fails.  I have a page on it that some folks have
found helpful, which goes through the steps of installing the MadWifi
drivers (though the page mentions that I haven't found it necessary with
2.6.27) at
http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/rhwireless.html#5007


(Although I haven't yet found what sysctl values replace the old ones
that got the LED to work.  In the 2.6.26 kernels it was dev.wifi.ledpin
and dev.wifi.softled.)


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Adam: You failed me. 
Spike: Let's not quibble about who failed who. 



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 08:58:07 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:58:07 +0200
Subject: F11???
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810130158i195fa323p8bf3dc53c250d882@mail.gmail.com>

Jumping in koji I have found same packages already marked as F11.
Is the development band already playing another song??? ;-)
Did I miss some news???

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From atodorov at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 08:59:35 2008
From: atodorov at redhat.com (Alexander Todorov)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:59:35 +0300
Subject: Wireless not quite working on Asus EeePC 4G Surf
In-Reply-To: <20081013075754.GB7449@mail.scottro.net>
References: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com>
	<20081013075754.GB7449@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <48F30DF7.7030300@redhat.com>

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Scott Robbins wrote:
| If you mean the 2.6.27-x kernels, you are correct, you will not need
| MadWifi drivers, though you might have to manually insert the ath5k
| module.
|

After installing kernel 2.6.27-0.398.rc9.fc10.i686 from Rawhide (+ dependencies)
it seems to work (at least iwlist wlan0 scan shows networks available). The
problem is now Plymouth which doesn't start GDM. I'll have to debug this a bit more.

Thanks,
Alexander.
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From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Mon Oct 13 10:09:41 2008
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:09:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: MobaLiveCD - Qemu on Windows
References: <48F1D18F.1000705@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <loom.20081013T100854-150@post.gmane.org>

Rahul Sundaram <sundaram <at> fedoraproject.org> writes:
> Essentially this seems to be application that enables you to use Qemu on 
> Windows to boot up live cd's. I have no access to Windows systems and 
> have not tested it but if you do, let me know how well it works.

QEMU is really really slow. This hack is going to give a horrible impression of 
GNU/Linux. :-(

        Kevin Kofler



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Mon Oct 13 10:07:56 2008
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:07:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: F11???
References: <4c37b6af0810130158i195fa323p8bf3dc53c250d882@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20081013T100644-185@post.gmane.org>

Antonio M <antonio.montagnani <at> gmail.com> writes:
> Jumping in koji I have found same packages already marked as F11.
> Is the development band already playing another song??? 
> Did I miss some news???

Rawhide is still targeting F10, however it is possible for a package maintainer 
to request an early F-10 branch so they can start working towards F11 in 
the "devel" branch without disrupting F10.

         Kevin Kofler



From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Mon Oct 13 10:19:13 2008
From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?c3BvZmZsZXk=?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:19:13 +0200
Subject: No Graphical shutdown available
Message-ID: <b0b9371b326777c9c1218a565afab31a@fcp.surfsite.org>

Performed the latest updates yesterday and the Shutdown button is greyed out and selecting shutdown from the System pull down menu only allows for Suspend and Hibernate.  All this was working prior to the updates.  I am using Gnome on an Acer Aspire Notebook.  Trying Shutdown now from a terminal su'd to root only seemed to shutdown X.  This was a problem a few weeks ago but was fixed but looks like it has regressed !

I must admit to not reading the latest release notes so maybe this is a new 'Feature' :-)


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From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Mon Oct 13 10:19:14 2008
From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?ZGJheHBz?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:19:14 +0200
Subject: Kernel BUG detected on F9 PV DomU at Xen 3.3 CentOS 5.2 Dom0 (all
	64-bit)
Message-ID: <3739c358895cd62f9db5796427773c27@fcp.surfsite.org>

During F9 PV DomU session running via pv-grub got messages
to text console:-
Kernel BUG at ffffffff80465fc0 [verbose debug info unavailable]
invalid opcode: 0000 [1] 
CPU 0 
Modules linked in: nfs lockd nfs_acl fuse rfcomm l2cap bluetooth sunrpc ipv6 loop dm_multipath pcspkr xen_netfront dm_snapshot dm_zero dm_mirror dm_mod xen_blkfront ext3 jbd mbcache uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded: microcode]
Pid: 1895, comm: firefox Not tainted 2.6.25-2.fc9.x86_64.xen #1
RIP: e030:[]  [] xen_failsafe_callback+0x0/0x10
RSP: e02b:ffff8800760dbe00  EFLAGS: 00010006
RAX: 000000000000000d RBX: ffff88006ecc0000 RCX: ffffffff80465fc0
RDX: ffffffff80627210 RSI: 0000000000000001 RDI: ffffffff806272d0
RBP: ffff8800760dbea0 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: 0000000000000000
R10: 00000021442f0c17 R11: 0000000000000206 R12: ffff880076d90000
R13: ffff88006ecc0470 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: ffff88006ed6fc78
FS:  0000000000000000(0000) GS:ffffffff805bf000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
CS:  e033 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 000000008005003b
CR2: 00007fbc20355000 CR3: 000000006ec02000 CR4: 0000000000002620
DR0: 0000000000000000 DR1: 0000000000000000 DR2: 0000000000000000
DR3: 0000000000000000 DR6: 00000000ffff0ff0 DR7: 0000000000000400
Process firefox (pid: 1895, threadinfo ffff88006ed6e000, task ffff880076d90000)
Stack:  ffffffff806171aa 0000000000000206 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
 0000000000000063 0000000000000000 ffffffff806171a8 000000010000e030
 0000000000000006 ffff8800760dbe58 000000000000e02b 0000000000000000
Call Trace:
Code: 0f 07 66 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 48 8b 0c 24 4c 8b 5c 24 08 48 83 c4 10 6a 00 50 48 8d 05 19 00 00 00 e9 54 fb ff ff 0f 1f 40 00  0b 66 66 66 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 48 89 fc 65 ff 
RIP  [] xen_failsafe_callback+0x0/0x10
 RSP 
---[ end trace 923f03835025b416 ]---
------------[ cut here ]------------
kernel BUG at kernel/exit.c:960!
invalid opcode: 0000 [2] 
CPU 0 
Modules linked in: nfs lockd nfs_acl fuse rfcomm l2cap bluetooth sunrpc ipv6 loop dm_multipath pcspkr xen_netfront dm_snapshot dm_zero dm_mirror dm_mod xen_blkfront ext3 jbd mbcache uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded: microcode]
Pid: 1876, comm: firefox Tainted: G      D  2.6.25-2.fc9.x86_64.xen #1
RIP: e030:[]  [] do_exit+0x60e/0x628
RSP: e02b:ffff8800760dbbb8  EFLAGS: 00010292
RAX: ffff8800760dbfd8 RBX: 0000000000000020 RCX: ffffffff8063df88
RDX: 00000000760dbb48 RSI: ffffffff80591450 RDI: 0000000000000200
RBP: ffff8800760dbbf8 R08: ffff88006ed6fcf8 R09: ffffffff8022b3d1
R10: 00000021443d106b R11: 0000000000000000 R12: ffff880076d90000
R13: 0000000000000000 R14: ffff880076d8fff0 R15: 0000000000000000
FS:  00007fbc44fe0700(0000) GS:ffffffff805bf000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
CS:  e033 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 000000008005003b
CR2: 00007fbc20355000 CR3: 000000006ec02000 CR4: 0000000000002620
DR0: 0000000000000000 DR1: 0000000000000000 DR2: 0000000000000000
DR3: 0000000000000000 DR6: 00000000ffff0ff0 DR7: 0000000000000400
Process firefox (pid: 1876, threadinfo ffff8800760da000, task ffff88006ecc0000)
Stack:  ffff880076d90248 ffff880076d90248 000000000000000b 0000000000000000
 ffff8800760dbd58 000000000000000b 0000000000000000 0000000000000004
 ffff8800760dbc28 ffffffff804662b6 ffff8800760dbc28 ffff8800760dbd58
Call Trace:
 [] oops_begin+0x0/0x55
 [] die+0x5d/0x66
 [] do_trap+0x110/0x11f
 [] do_invalid_op+0xa0/0xa9
 [] ? xen_failsafe_callback+0x0/0x10
 [] ? try_to_wake_up+0xaf/0xc0
 [] ? default_wake_function+0xd/0xf
 [] error_exit+0x0/0x61
 [] ? xen_failsafe_callback+0x0/0x10
 [] ? xen_failsafe_callback+0x0/0x10
 [] ? xen_mc_flush+0x5b/0x15c
 [] ? xen_leave_lazy+0x15/0x17
 [] ? __switch_to+0x8a/0x329
 [] ? hrtick_start_fair+0xdf/0x124
 [] ? thread_return+0x0/0x6b
 [] ? syscall_trace_enter+0xb5/0xb9
 [] ? int_careful+0x1c/0x2f
Code: 48 08 00 00 00 74 05 e8 0f e7 0c 00 49 8b bc 24 00 09 00 00 48 85 ff 74 05 e8 e2 47 06 00 49 c7 04 24 40 00 00 00 e8 5d 2b 23 00  0b eb fe 41 8b b4 24 28 02 00 00 83 fe ff 0f 85 ec fe ff ff 
RIP  [] do_exit+0x60e/0x628
 RSP 
---[ end trace 923f03835025b416 ]---

Message from syslogd at fdr9pv [1] at Oct 11 07:36:00 ...
 kernel: ------------[ cut here ]------------

Message from syslogd at fdr9pv [2] at Oct 11 07:36:00 ...
 kernel: invalid opcode: 0000 [1] 

Message from syslogd at fdr9pv [3] at Oct 11 07:36:00 ...
 kernel: Code: 0f 07 66 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 48 8b 0c 24 4c 8b 5c 24 08 48 83 c4 10 6a 00 50 48 8d 05 19 00 00 00 e9 54 fb ff ff 0f 1f 40 00  0b 66 66 66 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 48 89 fc 65 ff 

Message from syslogd at fdr9pv [4] at Oct 11 07:36:00 ...
 kernel: ------------[ cut here ]------------

Message from syslogd at fdr9pv [5] at Oct 11 07:36:00 ...
 kernel: invalid opcode: 0000 [2] 

Message from syslogd at fdr9pv [6] at Oct 11 07:36:00 ...
 kernel: Code: 48 08 00 00 00 74 05 e8 0f e7 0c 00 49 8b bc 24 00 09 00 00 48 85 ff 74 05 e8 e2 47 06 00 49 c7 04 24 40 00 00 00 e8 5d 2b 23 00  0b eb fe 41 8b b4 24 28 02 00 00 83 fe ff 0f 85 ec fe ff ff


Links:
------
[1] mailto:syslogd at fdr9pv
[2] mailto:syslogd at fdr9pv
[3] mailto:syslogd at fdr9pv
[4] mailto:syslogd at fdr9pv
[5] mailto:syslogd at fdr9pv
[6] mailto:syslogd at fdr9pv


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From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 10:49:56 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:49:56 +0200
Subject: Gnome crashing all the time :(
Message-ID: <64b14b300810130349s7c9e063eif59fcdb075f0ac09@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I'm having a lot of trouble with Fedora 10 beta on one machine of my
three test machines, so somehow this bug seams to be isolated only on
this one.

I can't find out what seams to be the issue...

Everytime I login the first time Gnome starts to load but after a few
seconds it crashes and I get back to GDM screen.
Second time I login Gnome doesn't crash right away but it crashes
after some random time :(

Can somebody please look at my .xsession-errors and suggest what could
be the issue.

Here are the two .xsession-errors :
http://fpaste.org/paste/7492
http://fpaste.org/paste/7496

Valent.

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From spowd at bigpond.com  Mon Oct 13 09:39:54 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (Greg)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:39:54 +1100
Subject: F11???
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810130158i195fa323p8bf3dc53c250d882@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810130158i195fa323p8bf3dc53c250d882@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F3176A.2010601@bigpond.com>

On 13/10/2008 7:58 PM, Antonio M wrote:
> Jumping in koji I have found same packages already marked as F11.
> Is the development band already playing another song??? ;-)
> Did I miss some news???
>
>    
this always happens.. fedora 10 is near out the door so its easier for 
the devs an others to make fedora 11 packages now.. same happened with 
Fedora 9 Development



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 11:23:40 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:23:40 +0200
Subject: Folders in other's computers Public folder
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810130423r700155b3qe90b346676d430e5@mail.gmail.com>

When I try to grab a folder on a shared folder in mine Public Folder
on another network computer, I cannot copy the full folder but single
files...
I get an error stating Error during copying in /home/antonio
More details: Not found

What is the problem?? shall I file a bug???
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From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Mon Oct 13 11:23:38 2008
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:23:38 +1100
Subject: Anyone else seeing a stutter in gnome using rawhide
Message-ID: <1223897018.3632.140.camel@moose>

I get stutters in gnome while using rawhide.

If, for example, I'm typing, the text will stop appearing for second (or
so) and then all the letters I've typed over that time appear.

Add to this that the icons on the desktop will disappear, and then
reappear.  This usually happens at the end of the pause.

Anyone else seen this, and more importantly any ideas what might be
causing it and what package to file a bug against.

I should have said something earlier.  I've noticed this for some time,
but I just assumed it was so obvious that it would be fixed quickly.

Oh, I've seen the problem three times while typing this email.  (about 2
minutes of typing)

R.
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 It's much better on my side"



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 11:16:31 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:16:31 +0200
Subject: No Graphical shutdown available
In-Reply-To: <b0b9371b326777c9c1218a565afab31a@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <b0b9371b326777c9c1218a565afab31a@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810130416v5027b1det318df6aff8199c34@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/13 spoffley <no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org>:
> Performed the latest updates yesterday and the Shutdown button is greyed out and selecting shutdown from the System pull down menu only allows for Suspend and Hibernate.  All this was working prior to the updates.  I am using Gnome on an Acer Aspire Notebook.  Trying Shutdown now from a terminal su'd to root only seemed to shutdown X.  This was a problem a few weeks ago but was fixed but looks like it has regressed !
>
> I must admit to not reading the latest release notes so maybe this is a new 'Feature' :-)
>
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working here on Acer5720. Are you sure to have completed all updates ???

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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 13 11:38:18 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:38:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081013 changes
Message-ID: <20081013113818.7E5B81F8239@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon Oct 13 06:01:09 UTC 2008

New package chntpw
        Change passwords in Windows SAM files
New package gnomint
        Graphical x509 Certification Authority management tool
New package pdf-renderer
        A 100% Java PDF renderer and viewer
New package perl-MooseX-Types
        Organise your Moose types in libraries
New package scala
        A hybrid functional/object-oriented language for the JVM
New package spin-kickstarts
        Kickstart files and templates for creating your own Fedora Spins
New package trustedqsl
        TrustedQSL ham-radio applications
Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4175.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> - 1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4175
- Fix conflicts for older PPTP VPN plugins

* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> - 1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4174
- Ensure that mobile broadband cards are powered up before trying to use them
- Hostname changing support (rh #441453)
- Fix mobile broadband secret requests to happen less often
- Better handling of default devices and default routes
- Better information in tooltips and notifications
- Various UI cleanups; hide widgets that aren't used (rh #465397, rh #465395)
- Accept different separators for DNS servers and searches
- Make applet's icon accurately reflect signal strength of the current AP


NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.0-16.svn4175.fc10
--------------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 1:0.7.0-16.svn4175
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager
- Allow changing passwords from the connection editor
- Honor OpenVPN's 'route-vpn-gateway' option


NetworkManager-pptp-0.7.0-0.11.svn4178.fc10
-------------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 1:0.7.0-11.svn4178
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager
- Allow changing passwords from the connection editor


NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.0-0.10.svn4175.fc10
-------------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 1:0.7.0-10.svn4175
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager
- Allow changing passwords from the connection editor


cjkunifonts-0.2.20080216.1-8.fc10
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Caius Chance <cchance at redhat.com> - 0.2.20080216.1-8.fc10
- Resolves: rhbz#466667 (Reverted to 0.2.20080216.1-4 without conf.avail.)


coreutils-6.12-14.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> - 6.12-14
- cp -Z now correctly separated in man page (#466646)
- cp -Z works again (#466653)
- make preservation of SELinux CTX non-mandatory for
  preserve=all cp option


deluge-1.0.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com> - 1.0.2-1
- Update to new upstream release (1.0.2)
- Drop multithreaded boost compilation patch (fixed upstream, again).
  - mt-boost-fix.patch


gammu-1.21.0-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Xavier Lamien <lxtnow[at]gmail.com> - 1.21.0-1
- Update release.


glibmm24-2.18.0-4.fc10
----------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 2.18.0-4
- Split documentation in new doc sub-package
- Fixed some devhelp documentation links


gnome-desktop-2.24.0-5.fc10
---------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-5
- Don't crossfade between frames on a slideshow


gnome-panel-2.24.0-7.fc10
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode  <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-7
- Update smooth slide patch to be simpler based on feedback
  on gnome bug (554343)


gnome-settings-daemon-2.24.0-7.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-6
- Update fade patch to skip crossfade when changing frames in
  slideshow background.

* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-7
- Try harder not to override peoples configured keyboard layouts


gtkmm24-2.14.1-1.fc10
---------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 2.14.1-1
- Update to 2.14.1
- Fix documentation links


jokosher-1.0-0.2.20081012svn.fc10
---------------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Brown <snecklifter at gmail.com> - 1.0-0.2.20081012svn
- Update to latest svn


ldm-2.0.13-3.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 2.0.13-3
- 2.0.13
- K12Linux theme by Maureen Duffy
- Rearrange LDM layout, thanks to Ryan Niebur of Debian
- Fix login box focus


lirc-0.8.4-0.5.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 - Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> - 0.8.4-1
- Update to 0.8.4 release


ltspfs-0.5.5-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 0.5.5-1
- 0.5.5 fixes a cdpinger segfault


mcabber-0.9.9-1.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Michael Fleming <mfleming+rpm at enlartenment.com> - 0.9.9-1
- Upgrade to 0.9.9
- Revert to using OpenSSL (#bz 389481)


openoffice.org-voikko-3.0-3.fc10
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Ville-Pekka Vainio <vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi> - 3.0-3
- Remove unneeded openoffice.org-core Requires, rpmbuild should detect that
  automatically. Keep libvoikko >= 2.0 Requires as instructed by upstream
  release notes, rpmbuild can't detected that automatically.


ovaldi-5.5.4-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> 5.5.4-1
- New upstream build


pangomm-2.14.0-2.fc10
---------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 2.14.0-2
- Added patch to fix devhelp main page


perl-5.10.0-48.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> - 4:5.10.0-48
- Include fix for rt#52740 to fix a crash when using Devel::Symdump and
  Compress::Zlib together


perl-CGI-SpeedyCGI-2.22-3.fc10
------------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 2.22-3
- Work around C99 inline issues caused by C99 inline support in
  newer GCC versions (#464963, thanks to Andreas Thienemann)


perl-JSON-2.12-1.fc10
---------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 2.12-1
- update to 2.12


quicksynergy-0.8.1-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.8.1-1
- Update to 0.8.1


redet-8.26-1.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 8.26-1
- Version bump to 8.26. Closes Red Hat Bugzilla bug #464335.
- Dropped README-General because it is irrelevant for Fedora users.


sim-0.9.5-0.14.20080923svn2261rev.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Pavel Alexeev <Pahan [ at ] Hubbitus [ DOT ] spb [ dOt.] su> - 0.9.5-0.14.20080923svn2261rev
- Add (Patrice Dumas)
	Requires(postun): /sbin/ldconfig
	Requires(post): /sbin/ldconfig


xhtml2fo-style-xsl-20051222-2.fc10
----------------------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Ismael Olea <ismael at olea.org> 20051222-2
- adding the .fc10 macro to the spec


Summary:
Added Packages: 7
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 28
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-prioritized-methods-0.2.1-1.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2562
	python-turbojson-1.2.1-2.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2555
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-prioritized-methods-0.2.1-1.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2562
	python-turbojson-1.2.1-2.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2555
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-prioritized-methods-0.2.1-1.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2562
	python-turbojson-1.2.1-2.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2555
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	python-prioritized-methods-0.2.1-1.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2562
	python-turbojson-1.2.1-2.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2555
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct 13 11:39:33 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:39:33 +0000
Subject: Wireless not quite working on Asus EeePC 4G Surf
In-Reply-To: <48F30DF7.7030300@redhat.com>
References: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com>	<20081013075754.GB7449@mail.scottro.net>
	<48F30DF7.7030300@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F33375.5040903@hi.is>

Alexander Todorov wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
>
> Scott Robbins wrote:
> | If you mean the 2.6.27-x kernels, you are correct, you will not need
> | MadWifi drivers, though you might have to manually insert the ath5k
> | module.
> |
>
> After installing kernel 2.6.27-0.398.rc9.fc10.i686 from Rawhide (+ 
> dependencies)
> it seems to work (at least iwlist wlan0 scan shows networks 
> available). The
> problem is now Plymouth which doesn't start GDM. I'll have to debug 
> this a bit more.
>
> Thanks,
> Alexander.
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You can disable kms by adding the nomodeset kernel parameter.

JBG.
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From tom.horsley at att.net  Mon Oct 13 12:06:08 2008
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:06:08 +0000
Subject: Anyone else seeing a stutter in gnome using rawhide
In-Reply-To: <1223897018.3632.140.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <101320081206.4848.48F339B00005C750000012F022230647629B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>

> If, for example, I'm typing, the text will stop appearing for second (or
> so) and then all the letters I've typed over that time appear.
> 
> Add to this that the icons on the desktop will disappear, and then
> reappear.  This usually happens at the end of the pause.

I've certainly noticed the pauses. I haven't seen the icon behavior.

My impression is that keyboard and mouse handling has somehow become vastly
lower priority than disk IO processing. I've noticed when running "yum update"
I'll see the interactive pauses right at the same time each new rpm is
finished downloading or installing. (This is on a system with USB keyboard
and mouse and SATA disks).





From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 13 12:12:50 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:12:50 -0400
Subject: Wireless not quite working on Asus EeePC 4G Surf
In-Reply-To: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com>
References: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F33B42.90101@sbcglobal.net>

Alexander Todorov wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
>
> Morning all,
> i've been trying to make wireless work on my Asus EeePC, but no luck.
>
> Below is some diagnostic output:
>
> [root at localhost ~]# ifconfig
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:C6:D8:E9:9F
> ~          inet addr:192.168.1.3  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
> ~          inet6 addr: fe80::21f:c6ff:fed8:e99f/64 Scope:Link
> ~          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> ~          RX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> ~          TX packets:106 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2
> ~          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> ~          RX bytes:24327 (23.7 KiB)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
> ~          Memory:fbfc0000-fc000000
>
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
> ~          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> ~          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> ~          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
> ~          RX packets:1604 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> ~          TX packets:1604 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> ~          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> ~          RX bytes:80360 (78.4 KiB)  TX bytes:80360 (78.4 KiB)
>
> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:AF:A7:87:5F
> ~          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> ~          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> ~          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> ~          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> ~          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
>
> wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr
> 00-15-AF-A7-87-5F-F4-FF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
> ~          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> ~          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> ~          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> ~          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> ~          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
>
> [root at localhost ~]# lsmod | grep ath
> ath5k                 111240  0
> mac80211              174312  1 ath5k
> cfg80211               24584  2 ath5k,mac80211
>
> [root at localhost ~]# tail -f /var/log/messages
> Oct 13 10:06:26 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  wlan0: driver 
> supports SSID
> scans (scan_capa 0x01).
> Oct 13 10:06:26 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  Found new 802.11 
> WiFi device
> 'wlan0'.
> Oct 13 10:06:26 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): exported as
> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_15_af_a7_87_5f_0
> Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): device 
> state change:
> 1 -> 2
> Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): bringing up 
> device.
> Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is 
> not ready
> Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): preparing 
> device.
> Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): 
> deactivating device.
> Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): device 
> state change:
> 2 -> 3
> Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): supplicant 
> interface
> state change: 1 -> 2.
>
> [root at localhost ~]# rpm -q kernel
> kernel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686
>
>
> Now everything looks good except the line
> Oct 13 10:06:30 localhost kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is 
> not ready
>
> I have another laptop with Atheros card with the same software 
> configuration (F9
> + latest updates) and it just works fine while on the eeepc NM doesn't 
> detect
> any wireless networks. I wasn't able to find any useful information on 
> the web
> except installing mad-wifi which I think is not needed with the latest 
> kernel
> anymore. Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Alexander.
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I have a eeePC 702 and it works perfect on FC10 the kernel-2.6.27,  I 
don't know what WiFi the 1000 uses but the eeePC  700 series runs the 
Atheros AR5007EG wireless,  and it won't work in the 2.6.26 kernels FC 8 
- 9 .
The  rpm from Livna will also give you problems.
All hardware on my E works perfect on FC10 , most of all the Webcam.



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Mon Oct 13 12:27:49 2008
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:27:49 -0400
Subject: Wireless not quite working on Asus EeePC 4G Surf
In-Reply-To: <48F33B42.90101@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com> <48F33B42.90101@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20081013122749.GA9806@mail.scottro.net>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 08:12:50AM -0400, Jim wrote:
>>
> I have a eeePC 702 and it works perfect on FC10 the kernel-2.6.27,  I  
> don't know what WiFi the 1000 uses but the eeePC  700 series runs the  
> Atheros AR5007EG wireless,  and it won't work in the 2.6.26 kernels FC 8  
> - 9 .
> The  rpm from Livna will also give you problems.

The livna rpm usually works, however, from time to time, they fall
behind in kernel versions.  They were having some issues which are
probably fixed by now.  (I haven't been running F9 on anything save a
workstation which has no wireless, so I haven't kept up.)

The Asus 901 and 1000 (I'm not sure about the 900) are using a Realtek
card.  Someone on fedoraforums has posted a howto about it, but not
having the machine, I have no idea how well it does or doesn't work.
There are also articles on the Fedora wiki about the EEE if I'm not
mistaken.  (However, not having that machine and planning to get an Acer
Aspire One, I'm no expert.)


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From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Mon Oct 13 12:40:48 2008
From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?c3BvZmZsZXk=?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:40:48 +0200
Subject: No Graphical shutdown available
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810130416v5027b1det318df6aff8199c34@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d2bdc88c228d048b4fb7161b7889773b@fcp.surfsite.org>

I have all the updates presented to me, I use YUMEX.  I have however delved a little further and found the following :

I have two users on the system, as we cannot any longer graphically log on as root I have one on the sudoers list and the other as a normal user.  The normal user can perform graphical shutdown the sudoer user cannot.  I removed the shutdown button applet for the sudoers user and when I tried to add it again, the applet was not available for selection.

I have a workaround, logoff as the sudoer list and shutdown from the logon screen, so I guess I will delve further, its either something to do with sudoers or something in my Gnome configuration for the sudoer user.

I guess the hurt we go through is why its called being on the cutting edge !


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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 13 13:28:33 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:58:33 +0530
Subject: F10 - gpk-Application - Idea
In-Reply-To: <93d66b780810121556o54d40132te40e46bd44e63b14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <93d66b780810121556o54d40132te40e46bd44e63b14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F34D01.901@fedoraproject.org>

Mario Chacon wrote:
> HI!
> Is it possible that when i'm downloading a packages with
> gpk-Application tell me total size to download?


File a RFE in http://bugzilla.redhat.com

Rahul



From atodorov at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 13:35:32 2008
From: atodorov at redhat.com (Alexander Todorov)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:35:32 +0300
Subject: Wireless not quite working on Asus EeePC 4G Surf
In-Reply-To: <48F30DF7.7030300@redhat.com>
References: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com>	<20081013075754.GB7449@mail.scottro.net>
	<48F30DF7.7030300@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F34EA4.2070202@redhat.com>

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Alexander Todorov wrote:
| Scott Robbins wrote:
| | If you mean the 2.6.27-x kernels, you are correct, you will not need
| | MadWifi drivers, though you might have to manually insert the ath5k
| | module.
| |
|
| After installing kernel 2.6.27-0.398.rc9.fc10.i686 from Rawhide (+
| dependencies)
| it seems to work (at least iwlist wlan0 scan shows networks available). The
| problem is now Plymouth which doesn't start GDM. I'll have to debug this
| a bit more.
|

Upgrading all bits to rawhide fixed it for me. Looks like I didn't pick up some
dependencies with the first upgrade.

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From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Mon Oct 13 13:52:53 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:52:53 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: preupgrade to rawhide
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810131551160.22007@sandbox.cz>

My preupgrade attempt ended up today:
$ preupgrade
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
No package matched to remove
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 198, in 
on_assistant_apply
     self._do_main()
   File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 206, in _do_main
     self.main_preupgrade()
   File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 349, in 
main_preupgrade
     self.pu.retrieve_treeinfo()
   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line 
395, in retrieve_treeinfo
     self.instimage = cp.get('stage2', 'instimage')
   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/ConfigParser.py", line 520, in get
     raise NoOptionError(option, section)
ConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'instimage' in section: 'stage2'

alias "Downloading installer metadata..."

Is preupgarde usable at the moment for update to Beta?


Adam Pribyl



From mike at miketc.net  Mon Oct 13 14:06:13 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:06:13 -0500
Subject: No Graphical shutdown available
In-Reply-To: <d2bdc88c228d048b4fb7161b7889773b@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <d2bdc88c228d048b4fb7161b7889773b@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <1223906773.5778.0.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 14:40 +0200, spoffley wrote:
> I have all the updates presented to me, I use YUMEX.  I have however delved a little further and found the following :
> 
> I have two users on the system, as we cannot any longer graphically log on as root I have one on the sudoers list and the other as a normal user.  The normal user can perform graphical shutdown the sudoer user cannot.  I removed the shutdown button applet for the sudoers user and when I tried to add it again, the applet was not available for selection.
> 
> I have a workaround, logoff as the sudoer list and shutdown from the logon screen, so I guess I will delve further, its either something to do with sudoers or something in my Gnome configuration for the sudoer user.
> 
> I guess the hurt we go through is why its called being on the cutting edge !

I had the same problem after the updates, but once you get it rebooted
and logged back in, the shutdown/restart buttons are back again.

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From dennisml at conversis.de  Mon Oct 13 14:25:37 2008
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:25:37 +0200
Subject: Anyone else seeing a stutter in gnome using rawhide
In-Reply-To: <101320081206.4848.48F339B00005C750000012F022230647629B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>
References: <101320081206.4848.48F339B00005C750000012F022230647629B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>
Message-ID: <48F35A61.3070702@conversis.de>

On 10/13/2008 02:06 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> If, for example, I'm typing, the text will stop appearing for second (or
>> so) and then all the letters I've typed over that time appear.
>>
>> Add to this that the icons on the desktop will disappear, and then
>> reappear.  This usually happens at the end of the pause.
>
> I've certainly noticed the pauses. I haven't seen the icon behavior.
>
> My impression is that keyboard and mouse handling has somehow become vastly
> lower priority than disk IO processing. I've noticed when running "yum update"
> I'll see the interactive pauses right at the same time each new rpm is
> finished downloading or installing. (This is on a system with USB keyboard
> and mouse and SATA disks).

I've been wondering about this for some time now but I was not really sure 
if this was a real problem with the system or just a perception issue. 
Whenever disk I/O occurs this seems to impact the interactive behavior of 
other applications quite considerably. In some cases I see apps locking up 
for up to two or three seconds because a second process accesses the disk.

Regards,
   Dennis



From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Mon Oct 13 14:56:56 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:56:56 -0400
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <336665.14617.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <336665.14617.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1223909816.7723.168.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>

On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 12:48 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Bruno GARDIN <bgardin at gmail.com> wrote:

> > From: Bruno GARDIN <bgardin at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
> > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> > Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:55 AM
> > I am testing rawhide for a few month now but i have problem
> > of boot
> > since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My rawhide is a virtual system
> > on vmware
> > server now in version 2.0. Whenever i try to boot, i got
> > the following
> > errors at the end :
> > Activating logical volumes
> >     VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found
> > Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
> > Creating root device
> > Mounting root file system
> > mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3. No
> > such file or directory
> > Setting up other filesystems
> > setuproot: moving /dev failed:No such file or directory
> > setuproot: error mounting/proc: No such file or directory
> > setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory
> > Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such file or
> > directory
> > Switching to new root and running init
> > swithroot: mount failed: No such file or directory
> > Booting has failed
 
> > Boot works fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but fails also
> > with 2.6.27-1.
> > I have looked at the thread related to ext4 but i am using
> > ext3. I
> > have also tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no change.
> > Any idea of
> > what the problem could be ?

	The real source of the problem was much earlier in the messages than
what was originally provided.  I've been trying to track this down
myself.  Here is the critical bit of information:

Kernel that boots:

Loading dm-mirror module
scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access
scsi target2:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
scsi target2:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write testes
scsi target2:0:0: Ending Domain Validation: 1204k
scsi target2:0:0 FAST-40 WIDE SCSI 80.0 MB/s ST (25 ns, offset 127)
Loading dm-zero module
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
Loading dm-snapshot module
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
 sda: sda1 sda2
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
Making device-mapper control node
Scanning logical volumes
  Reading all physical volumes.  This make take a while...
  Found volume group "VolGroup00" using metadata type lvm2

Kernel that fails:

Scanning logical volumes
scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access
scsi target2:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
scsi target2:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write testes
scsi target2:0:0: Ending Domain Validation: 1204k
scsi target2:0:0 FAST-40 WIDE SCSI 80.0 MB/s ST (25 ns, offset 127)
  Reading all physical volumes.  This make take a while...
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
 sda: sda1 sda2
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
Activating logical volumes
  Volume group "VolGroup00" not found
Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)

	Note that in the kernel that's failing LVM is starting to scan for
logical volumes before the SCSI devices have stabilized!  It doesn't
find any PV's and so it doesn't find "VolGroup00".  That's the killer.
Now.  Look closely at the one that booted above.  What's interspersed
with the scsi startup messages?  Loading dm-mirror, loading dm-zero,
loading dm-snapshot.  Then we see the "Scanning logical volumes".  Well,
guess what.  Those modules are not present in the latest kernel as
modules.  They created enough of a time delay that lvm started after the
scsi drivers had settled.  Now they are not there, we have a race
condition and, if lvm starts to early, lvm can find the drives.  The
"Scanning logical volumes" is starting exactly where we see the "Loading
dm-mirror" in the kernel which does boot.  I would call that a smoking
gun.

	What's really interesting (to me) is if you look at the 2.6.26 kernels
under F9 (and I'm testing this 2.6.27 kernel under F9 as well as F10).
You find ALL of the "Loading dm-*" messages AFTER the scsi drivers have
settled.  Something has changed here in the 2.6.27 kernels where the
scsi drivers either are not settling as fast (debugging messages and
checks perhaps) or the insmod is returning sooner (before the drivers
have settled) creating this race condition which did not exist at all in
2.6.26.

	I think this is a bug in mkinitrd and it's not emitting a wait when
it's needed in this case.  Down in mkinitrd around line 1483 is a check
for conditions under which it wants to issue a wait for the scsi to
setting.  I think that either needs to be made unconditional or at least
expanded to include other scsi devices like the VMware ones.  I cheated.
Up at line 1411 I changed "wait_for_scsi="no"" to "wait_for_scsi="yes""
and rebuild the initrd.  Problem goes away and lvm starts AFTER the scsi
devices have settled.  Another way to do this might be to force the
including of usb-storage (mkinitrd --with-usb) which has it's own delay
both in loading and settling.

> > -- 
> > BeGe
> > 
> > -- 

> Try uninstalling the kernel and reinstalling it via yum.
> I tried several times and succeeded :) 

	No you didn't.  You got lucky and won the race that time.  That's the
problem with race conditions.  Sometimes you win through just plain dumb
luck.  You may well find it fails on a subsequent reboot and you're
screwed.  Then again, you may well have changed something else that
changes the timing and changes the probability and it then works for
you.

	I'll be filing a bugzilla bug on this later if nobody else gets to it
first.

> Regards,

> Antonio 

	Mike
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From mgmartin at comcast.net  Mon Oct 13 15:14:40 2008
From: mgmartin at comcast.net (Michael G. Martin)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:14:40 -0600
Subject: Anyone else seeing a stutter in gnome using rawhide
Message-ID: <48F365E0.3020100@comcast.net>

I saw the same problem.  Changing the desktop background fixed it for 
me.  Something with the background changing colors based on time of day 
seemed to cause a nasty pause and icon refresh.

-Michael



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 13 15:42:36 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:42:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <1223909816.7723.168.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
Message-ID: <411353.61028.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at WittsEnd.com> wrote:

> From: Michael H. Warfield <mhw at WittsEnd.com>
> Subject: Re: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Cc: mhw at WittsEnd.com
> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:56 AM
> On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 12:48 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Bruno GARDIN
> <bgardin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > From: Bruno GARDIN <bgardin at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
> > > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development
> releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:55 AM
> > > I am testing rawhide for a few month now but i
> have problem
> > > of boot
> > > since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My rawhide is a
> virtual system
> > > on vmware
> > > server now in version 2.0. Whenever i try to
> boot, i got
> > > the following
> > > errors at the end :
> > > Activating logical volumes
> > >     VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found
> > > Unable to access resume device
> (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
> > > Creating root device
> > > Mounting root file system
> > > mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as
> ext3. No
> > > such file or directory
> > > Setting up other filesystems
> > > setuproot: moving /dev failed:No such file or
> directory
> > > setuproot: error mounting/proc: No such file or
> directory
> > > setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or
> directory
> > > Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such
> file or
> > > directory
> > > Switching to new root and running init
> > > swithroot: mount failed: No such file or
> directory
> > > Booting has failed
>  
> > > Boot works fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but
> fails also
> > > with 2.6.27-1.
> > > I have looked at the thread related to ext4 but i
> am using
> > > ext3. I
> > > have also tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no
> change.
> > > Any idea of
> > > what the problem could be ?
> 
> 	The real source of the problem was much earlier in the
> messages than
> what was originally provided.  I've been trying to
> track this down
> myself.  Here is the critical bit of information:
> 
> Kernel that boots:
> 
> Loading dm-mirror module
> scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access
> scsi target2:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
> scsi target2:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write testes
> scsi target2:0:0: Ending Domain Validation: 1204k
> scsi target2:0:0 FAST-40 WIDE SCSI 80.0 MB/s ST (25 ns,
> offset 127)
> Loading dm-zero module
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885
> MB)
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
> Loading dm-snapshot module
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885
> MB)
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
>  sda: sda1 sda2
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
> sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
> Making device-mapper control node
> Scanning logical volumes
>   Reading all physical volumes.  This make take a while...
>   Found volume group "VolGroup00" using metadata
> type lvm2
> 
> Kernel that fails:
> 
> Scanning logical volumes
> scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access
> scsi target2:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
> scsi target2:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write testes
> scsi target2:0:0: Ending Domain Validation: 1204k
> scsi target2:0:0 FAST-40 WIDE SCSI 80.0 MB/s ST (25 ns,
> offset 127)
>   Reading all physical volumes.  This make take a while...
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885
> MB)
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885
> MB)
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
>  sda: sda1 sda2
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
> sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
> Activating logical volumes
>   Volume group "VolGroup00" not found
> Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
> 
> 	Note that in the kernel that's failing LVM is starting
> to scan for
> logical volumes before the SCSI devices have stabilized! 
> It doesn't
> find any PV's and so it doesn't find
> "VolGroup00".  That's the killer.
> Now.  Look closely at the one that booted above. 
> What's interspersed
> with the scsi startup messages?  Loading dm-mirror, loading
> dm-zero,
> loading dm-snapshot.  Then we see the "Scanning
> logical volumes".  Well,
> guess what.  Those modules are not present in the latest
> kernel as
> modules.  They created enough of a time delay that lvm
> started after the
> scsi drivers had settled.  Now they are not there, we have
> a race
> condition and, if lvm starts to early, lvm can find the
> drives.  The
> "Scanning logical volumes" is starting exactly
> where we see the "Loading
> dm-mirror" in the kernel which does boot.  I would
> call that a smoking
> gun.
> 
> 	What's really interesting (to me) is if you look at
> the 2.6.26 kernels
> under F9 (and I'm testing this 2.6.27 kernel under F9
> as well as F10).
> You find ALL of the "Loading dm-*" messages AFTER
> the scsi drivers have
> settled.  Something has changed here in the 2.6.27 kernels
> where the
> scsi drivers either are not settling as fast (debugging
> messages and
> checks perhaps) or the insmod is returning sooner (before
> the drivers
> have settled) creating this race condition which did not
> exist at all in
> 2.6.26.
> 
> 	I think this is a bug in mkinitrd and it's not
> emitting a wait when
> it's needed in this case.  Down in mkinitrd around line
> 1483 is a check
> for conditions under which it wants to issue a wait for the
> scsi to
> setting.  I think that either needs to be made
> unconditional or at least
> expanded to include other scsi devices like the VMware
> ones.  I cheated.
> Up at line 1411 I changed
> "wait_for_scsi="no"" to
> "wait_for_scsi="yes""
> and rebuild the initrd.  Problem goes away and lvm starts
> AFTER the scsi
> devices have settled.  Another way to do this might be to
> force the
> including of usb-storage (mkinitrd --with-usb) which has
> it's own delay
> both in loading and settling.
> 
> > > -- 
> > > BeGe
> > > 
> > > -- 
> 
> > Try uninstalling the kernel and reinstalling it via
> yum.
> > I tried several times and succeeded :) 
> 
> 	No you didn't.  You got lucky and won the race that
> time.  That's the
> problem with race conditions.  Sometimes you win through
> just plain dumb
> luck.  You may well find it fails on a subsequent reboot
> and you're
> screwed.  Then again, you may well have changed something
> else that
> changes the timing and changes the probability and it then
> works for
> you.
> 
> 	I'll be filing a bugzilla bug on this later if nobody
> else gets to it
> first.
> 
> > Regards,
> 
> > Antonio 
> 
> 	Mike
> -- 
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> mhw at WittsEnd.com
>    /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678)
> 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
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> in the best of all
>  PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471        | possible worlds.  A pessimist
> is sure of it!

Michael,

You have a very valid point.  My problem was that the partition(not the boot partition) was ext4 and had ext4dev, and it was changed to plainly ext4.  I had to change /etc/fstab from ext4dev to ext4 then reinstalled the kernel and it worked :)

But you are correct with the scsi/dm Volume group(lvms)

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From ssalevan at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 15:50:09 2008
From: ssalevan at redhat.com (Steven Salevan)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:50:09 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
Message-ID: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>

Hey guys,
At the moment, it appears that GNOME is borderline dysfunctional on my 
XO, despite applying the recommended speed fixes (creating a persistent 
overlay, turning off swappiness).  On runlevel 3, the box seems to be 
stable and at least usable, but if I switch over to runlevel 5, I cannot 
use the box for more than about 3 minutes without receiving a kernel 
panic that leads to a total system freeze.  Alas, this panic is not 
logged to any system log, but I'll be connecting up a serial console 
over the next day or two get it off of the system and into a new BZ.

Outside of the panic issue, how goes GNOME testing for everyone else on 
the list?  For the few minutes that the device actually works, the 
system seems to crawl along at glacial speeds, taking over a minute to 
bring up simple tools such as the Appearance preferences configurator.  
Firefox takes more time to load than the box has before reaching the 
aforementioned system freeze.

So...  if my hunch is right, and I fear it is, I don't know if 2.5 
weeks' worth of testing is going to ensure that we ship a functional 
GNOME-laden version of F10.  From what I've read and heard, the plan is 
to maintain a sizeable swap space on the SD card, as the 256MB of 
built-in RAM alone is not sufficient to run GNOME, which will wear out 
the card in time along with limiting available space (especially if 
we're leaning on shipping the 2G card with each XO).

This might be a controversial viewpoint, and if so, so be it, but I 
wonder if we shouldn't change our focus to a more lightweight window 
manager such as XFCE.  There's already been work performed to this effect:

http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/fedora-xo;a=summary

GNOME may indeed be more familiar to users, but what use is familiarity 
if there's no functionality?  At least XFCE can run comfortably on the 
limited resources of the XO, allowing us to focus on the issues that we 
can indeed address in the limited time we have.  What do you guys think?
-Steve Salevan
ssalevan at redhat.com



From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Mon Oct 13 15:54:18 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:54:18 -0400
Subject: vmware VM with kernel 2.6.27-1
In-Reply-To: <48F148E8.4000204@cvalley.net>
References: <48F148E8.4000204@cvalley.net>
Message-ID: <1223913258.7723.172.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>

On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 19:46 -0500, Cory Rainey wrote:
> Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:55:32 +0200 From: "Bruno GARDIN" 
> <bgardin at gmail.com> Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398 
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" 
> <fedora-test-list at redhat.com> Message-ID: 
> <4a2527c40810111055h3c7b9e7bqb3fd93de477b7cbc at mail.gmail.com> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am testing rawhide for a 
> few month now but i have problem of boot since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My 
> rawhide is a virtual system on vmware server now in version 2.0. 
> Whenever i try to boot, i got the following errors at the end : 
> Activating logical volumes VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found Unable to 
> access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01) Creating root device 
> Mounting root file system mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as 
> ext3. No such file or directory Setting up other filesystems setuproot: 
> moving /dev failed:No such file or directory setuproot: error 
> mounting/proc: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /sys: 
> No such file or directory Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No 
> such file or directory Switching to new root and running init swithroot: 
> mount failed: No such file or directory Booting has failed Boot works 
> fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but fails also with 2.6.27-1. I have 
> looked at the thread related to ext4 but i am using ext3. I have also 
> tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no change. Any idea of what the 
> problem could be ?
> -- BeGe

> Exactly same problem here.

	Seems to be a race condition in the initrd.  Recent changes in the
kernel have removed dm-mirror, dm-zero, and dm-snapshot as initrd
modules.  That's resulted in a race condition where lvm starts up too
soon, before the scsi devices have settled.  More details are in another
response in a parallel branch of this thread but there are a couple of
workarounds.

	Mike
-- 
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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 13 15:54:36 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:24:36 +0530
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F36F3C.7020702@fedoraproject.org>

Steven Salevan wrote:
> GNOME may indeed be more familiar to users, but what use is familiarity 
> if there's no functionality?  At least XFCE can run comfortably on the 
> limited resources of the XO, allowing us to focus on the issues that we 
> can indeed address in the limited time we have.  What do you guys think?

Have you actually tested Xfce on XO to see if it performs better?

Rahul



From tyf at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 16:00:53 2008
From: tyf at redhat.com (Ty)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:00:53 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <48F36F3C.7020702@fedoraproject.org>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <48F36F3C.7020702@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1223913653.7938.8.camel@tao>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Steven Salevan wrote:
> > GNOME may indeed be more familiar to users, but what use is familiarity 
> > if there's no functionality?  At least XFCE can run comfortably on the 
> > limited resources of the XO, allowing us to focus on the issues that we 
> > can indeed address in the limited time we have.  What do you guys think?
> 
> Have you actually tested Xfce on XO to see if it performs better?

it performs a ton better, i followed these directions:
http://bc.tech.coop/blog/080130.html 

more details are here: 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xfce 

i can use gnome without it freezing though also, it is just very slow
and firefox crashes often so far. 

Ty 

> 
> Rahul
> 
-- 
????? ??????? (know thyself) 
????? ???? (nothing in excess) 
? 



From bgardin at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 16:03:37 2008
From: bgardin at gmail.com (Bruno GARDIN)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:03:37 +0200
Subject: vmware VM with kernel 2.6.27-1
In-Reply-To: <1223913258.7723.172.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
References: <48F148E8.4000204@cvalley.net>
	<1223913258.7723.172.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
Message-ID: <4a2527c40810130903l63965894j32c7e4891b1e7200@mail.gmail.com>

Michael i am following the bugzilla  466071 on this problem but there
is no obvious bypass (as far as i understand). What do you suggest as
the simplest one ?

Regards.

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 19:46 -0500, Cory Rainey wrote:
>> Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:55:32 +0200 From: "Bruno GARDIN"
>> <bgardin at gmail.com> Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
>> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases"
>> <fedora-test-list at redhat.com> Message-ID:
>> <4a2527c40810111055h3c7b9e7bqb3fd93de477b7cbc at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am testing rawhide for a
>> few month now but i have problem of boot since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My
>> rawhide is a virtual system on vmware server now in version 2.0.
>> Whenever i try to boot, i got the following errors at the end :
>> Activating logical volumes VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found Unable to
>> access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01) Creating root device
>> Mounting root file system mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as
>> ext3. No such file or directory Setting up other filesystems setuproot:
>> moving /dev failed:No such file or directory setuproot: error
>> mounting/proc: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /sys:
>> No such file or directory Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No
>> such file or directory Switching to new root and running init swithroot:
>> mount failed: No such file or directory Booting has failed Boot works
>> fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but fails also with 2.6.27-1. I have
>> looked at the thread related to ext4 but i am using ext3. I have also
>> tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no change. Any idea of what the
>> problem could be ?
>> -- BeGe
>
>> Exactly same problem here.
>
>        Seems to be a race condition in the initrd.  Recent changes in the
> kernel have removed dm-mirror, dm-zero, and dm-snapshot as initrd
> modules.  That's resulted in a race condition where lvm starts up too
> soon, before the scsi devices have settled.  More details are in another
> response in a parallel branch of this thread but there are a couple of
> workarounds.
>
>        Mike
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From bgardin at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 16:09:31 2008
From: bgardin at gmail.com (Bruno GARDIN)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:09:31 +0200
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <411353.61028.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <1223909816.7723.168.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
	<411353.61028.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4a2527c40810130909l6acc5449q4acd906d6ba92e43@mail.gmail.com>

Antonio, very clear explanation indeed. For me the bug 466071 has been
set on this problem already. I am going to test your proposal of
workaround.
Michael, you can forget my preceding message as i didn't read the
explanation of ANtonio before.

Regards.

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Antonio Olivares
<olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at WittsEnd.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Michael H. Warfield <mhw at WittsEnd.com>
>> Subject: Re: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
>> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>> Cc: mhw at WittsEnd.com
>> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:56 AM
>> On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 12:48 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Bruno GARDIN
>> <bgardin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > From: Bruno GARDIN <bgardin at gmail.com>
>> > > Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
>> > > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development
>> releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>> > > Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:55 AM
>> > > I am testing rawhide for a few month now but i
>> have problem
>> > > of boot
>> > > since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My rawhide is a
>> virtual system
>> > > on vmware
>> > > server now in version 2.0. Whenever i try to
>> boot, i got
>> > > the following
>> > > errors at the end :
>> > > Activating logical volumes
>> > >     VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found
>> > > Unable to access resume device
>> (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
>> > > Creating root device
>> > > Mounting root file system
>> > > mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as
>> ext3. No
>> > > such file or directory
>> > > Setting up other filesystems
>> > > setuproot: moving /dev failed:No such file or
>> directory
>> > > setuproot: error mounting/proc: No such file or
>> directory
>> > > setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or
>> directory
>> > > Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such
>> file or
>> > > directory
>> > > Switching to new root and running init
>> > > swithroot: mount failed: No such file or
>> directory
>> > > Booting has failed
>>
>> > > Boot works fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but
>> fails also
>> > > with 2.6.27-1.
>> > > I have looked at the thread related to ext4 but i
>> am using
>> > > ext3. I
>> > > have also tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no
>> change.
>> > > Any idea of
>> > > what the problem could be ?
>>
>>       The real source of the problem was much earlier in the
>> messages than
>> what was originally provided.  I've been trying to
>> track this down
>> myself.  Here is the critical bit of information:
>>
>> Kernel that boots:
>>
>> Loading dm-mirror module
>> scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access
>> scsi target2:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
>> scsi target2:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write testes
>> scsi target2:0:0: Ending Domain Validation: 1204k
>> scsi target2:0:0 FAST-40 WIDE SCSI 80.0 MB/s ST (25 ns,
>> offset 127)
>> Loading dm-zero module
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885
>> MB)
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
>> Loading dm-snapshot module
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885
>> MB)
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
>>  sda: sda1 sda2
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
>> sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
>> Making device-mapper control node
>> Scanning logical volumes
>>   Reading all physical volumes.  This make take a while...
>>   Found volume group "VolGroup00" using metadata
>> type lvm2
>>
>> Kernel that fails:
>>
>> Scanning logical volumes
>> scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access
>> scsi target2:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
>> scsi target2:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write testes
>> scsi target2:0:0: Ending Domain Validation: 1204k
>> scsi target2:0:0 FAST-40 WIDE SCSI 80.0 MB/s ST (25 ns,
>> offset 127)
>>   Reading all physical volumes.  This make take a while...
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885
>> MB)
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 25165824 512-byte hardware sectors (12885
>> MB)
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Cache data unavailable
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
>>  sda: sda1 sda2
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
>> sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
>> Activating logical volumes
>>   Volume group "VolGroup00" not found
>> Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
>>
>>       Note that in the kernel that's failing LVM is starting
>> to scan for
>> logical volumes before the SCSI devices have stabilized!
>> It doesn't
>> find any PV's and so it doesn't find
>> "VolGroup00".  That's the killer.
>> Now.  Look closely at the one that booted above.
>> What's interspersed
>> with the scsi startup messages?  Loading dm-mirror, loading
>> dm-zero,
>> loading dm-snapshot.  Then we see the "Scanning
>> logical volumes".  Well,
>> guess what.  Those modules are not present in the latest
>> kernel as
>> modules.  They created enough of a time delay that lvm
>> started after the
>> scsi drivers had settled.  Now they are not there, we have
>> a race
>> condition and, if lvm starts to early, lvm can find the
>> drives.  The
>> "Scanning logical volumes" is starting exactly
>> where we see the "Loading
>> dm-mirror" in the kernel which does boot.  I would
>> call that a smoking
>> gun.
>>
>>       What's really interesting (to me) is if you look at
>> the 2.6.26 kernels
>> under F9 (and I'm testing this 2.6.27 kernel under F9
>> as well as F10).
>> You find ALL of the "Loading dm-*" messages AFTER
>> the scsi drivers have
>> settled.  Something has changed here in the 2.6.27 kernels
>> where the
>> scsi drivers either are not settling as fast (debugging
>> messages and
>> checks perhaps) or the insmod is returning sooner (before
>> the drivers
>> have settled) creating this race condition which did not
>> exist at all in
>> 2.6.26.
>>
>>       I think this is a bug in mkinitrd and it's not
>> emitting a wait when
>> it's needed in this case.  Down in mkinitrd around line
>> 1483 is a check
>> for conditions under which it wants to issue a wait for the
>> scsi to
>> setting.  I think that either needs to be made
>> unconditional or at least
>> expanded to include other scsi devices like the VMware
>> ones.  I cheated.
>> Up at line 1411 I changed
>> "wait_for_scsi="no"" to
>> "wait_for_scsi="yes""
>> and rebuild the initrd.  Problem goes away and lvm starts
>> AFTER the scsi
>> devices have settled.  Another way to do this might be to
>> force the
>> including of usb-storage (mkinitrd --with-usb) which has
>> it's own delay
>> both in loading and settling.
>>
>> > > --
>> > > BeGe
>> > >
>> > > --
>>
>> > Try uninstalling the kernel and reinstalling it via
>> yum.
>> > I tried several times and succeeded :)
>>
>>       No you didn't.  You got lucky and won the race that
>> time.  That's the
>> problem with race conditions.  Sometimes you win through
>> just plain dumb
>> luck.  You may well find it fails on a subsequent reboot
>> and you're
>> screwed.  Then again, you may well have changed something
>> else that
>> changes the timing and changes the probability and it then
>> works for
>> you.
>>
>>       I'll be filing a bugzilla bug on this later if nobody
>> else gets to it
>> first.
>>
>> > Regards,
>>
>> > Antonio
>>
>>       Mike
>> --
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>> mhw at WittsEnd.com
>>    /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678)
>> 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
>>    NIC whois: MHW9          | An optimist believes we live
>> in the best of all
>>  PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471        | possible worlds.  A pessimist
>> is sure of it!
>
> Michael,
>
> You have a very valid point.  My problem was that the partition(not the boot partition) was ext4 and had ext4dev, and it was changed to plainly ext4.  I had to change /etc/fstab from ext4dev to ext4 then reinstalled the kernel and it worked :)
>
> But you are correct with the scsi/dm Volume group(lvms)
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
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From ssalevan at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 16:09:50 2008
From: ssalevan at redhat.com (Steven Salevan)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:09:50 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <48F36F3C.7020702@fedoraproject.org>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <48F36F3C.7020702@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <48F372CE.90605@redhat.com>

I have not, but from what I've read from other XO testers, it's 
considerably faster, hence the opinion-gathering e-mail that I sent.  
I'm going to load it up tonight to see for myself, but both conventional 
and practical wisdom dictate that it'd be eminently speedier and more 
functional than GNOME in its current state.
-Steve Salevan
ssalevan at redhat.com

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Steven Salevan wrote:
>> GNOME may indeed be more familiar to users, but what use is 
>> familiarity if there's no functionality?  At least XFCE can run 
>> comfortably on the limited resources of the XO, allowing us to focus 
>> on the issues that we can indeed address in the limited time we 
>> have.  What do you guys think?
>
> Have you actually tested Xfce on XO to see if it performs better?
>
> Rahul
>



From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Mon Oct 13 16:19:09 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:19:09 -0400
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <411353.61028.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <411353.61028.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1223914749.7723.178.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 08:42 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> Michael,

> You have a very valid point.  My problem was that the partition(not
> the boot partition) was ext4 and had ext4dev, and it was changed to
> plainly ext4.  I had to change /etc/fstab from ext4dev to ext4 then
> reinstalled the kernel and it worked :)

	Yeah, reading the various threads, I had already come to the conclusion
that we were dealing with at LEAST two different problems, one being the
ext4dev/ext4 problem.  But I wasn't using ext4 (in fact some of my
testing is the 2.6.27 kernel on F9) and others were reporting that it
wasn't fixing the problem.

> But you are correct with the scsi/dm Volume group(lvms)

	Looks like there is at least one bug already filed on this.

	https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071

	They're blaming this one on VMware but I'm not sure I would trust this
not to arise on other scsi drivers.

> Regards,

> Antonio 

	Regards,
	Mike
-- 
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From tarus at opennms.org  Mon Oct 13 16:21:23 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:21:23 -0400
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <B218B0DC-F397-48AB-82FF-A550ACAF8531@opennms.org>


On Oct 10, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Josh Bressers wrote:

> If you don't fix the image, the machine will eat up too much RAM and
> won't run, so you need to use an overlay file so the changes stick  
> between
> reboots.

Can you point me to a URL/description of how to set up an overlay?

-T

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From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 16:22:57 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:22:57 -0400
Subject: preupgrade to rawhide
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810131551160.22007@sandbox.cz>
References: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810131551160.22007@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <1223914977.3082.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 15:52 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> My preupgrade attempt ended up today:
> $ preupgrade
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> No package matched to remove
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>    File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 198, in 
> on_assistant_apply
>      self._do_main()
>    File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 206, in _do_main
>      self.main_preupgrade()
>    File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 349, in 
> main_preupgrade
>      self.pu.retrieve_treeinfo()
>    File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line 
> 395, in retrieve_treeinfo
>      self.instimage = cp.get('stage2', 'instimage')
>    File "/usr/lib/python2.5/ConfigParser.py", line 520, in get
>      raise NoOptionError(option, section)
> ConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'instimage' in section: 'stage2'
> 
> alias "Downloading installer metadata..."
> 
> Is preupgarde usable at the moment for update to Beta?

You're using an old version of preupgrade. Try preupgrade-0.9.8-2, from
updates-testing.

-w



From davidwmack at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 16:21:48 2008
From: davidwmack at gmail.com (David Mack)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:21:48 -0700
Subject: Xorg 1.5.2 segfaulting
Message-ID: <753ec7300810130921ga974e37h3cfd51d6f4df445f@mail.gmail.com>

On a Dell GX270 (i386) Xorg is segfaulting. The machine is booting to
runlevel 3, I log in as root and run startx. I've tried this with and
without xorg.conf, with and without /etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi.

Is anyone else seeing this or am I just cursed?

Log output attached.

Dave
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From poelstra at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 16:32:48 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:32:48 -0700
Subject: Bug Triage Meeting Tomorrow (Tuesday) @ 14:00
Message-ID: <48F37830.30705@redhat.com>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday @ 14:00 UTC/10 AM EDT

We will be reviewing the follow-up actions from last week:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-07

and covering any new items people would like to discuss.

See you there!

John



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 13 16:35:48 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:05:48 +0530
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <B218B0DC-F397-48AB-82FF-A550ACAF8531@opennms.org>
References: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<B218B0DC-F397-48AB-82FF-A550ACAF8531@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <48F378E4.5000109@fedoraproject.org>

Tarus Balog wrote:
> 
> On Oct 10, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Josh Bressers wrote:
> 
>> If you don't fix the image, the machine will eat up too much RAM and
>> won't run, so you need to use an overlay file so the changes stick 
>> between
>> reboots.
> 
> Can you point me to a URL/description of how to set up an overlay?
>

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Data_Persistence

Rahul



From bgardin at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 16:37:47 2008
From: bgardin at gmail.com (Bruno GARDIN)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:37:47 +0200
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <1223914749.7723.178.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
References: <411353.61028.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1223914749.7723.178.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
Message-ID: <4a2527c40810130937v32454d32i38ea9be085c8bde9@mail.gmail.com>

Antonio i just tried your trick:
Up at line 1411 I changed "wait_for_scsi="no"" to "wait_for_scsi="yes""
and rebuild the initrd
I worked just fine. Thanks a lot.

Bruno

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 08:42 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>
>> You have a very valid point.  My problem was that the partition(not
>> the boot partition) was ext4 and had ext4dev, and it was changed to
>> plainly ext4.  I had to change /etc/fstab from ext4dev to ext4 then
>> reinstalled the kernel and it worked :)
>
>        Yeah, reading the various threads, I had already come to the conclusion
> that we were dealing with at LEAST two different problems, one being the
> ext4dev/ext4 problem.  But I wasn't using ext4 (in fact some of my
> testing is the 2.6.27 kernel on F9) and others were reporting that it
> wasn't fixing the problem.
>
>> But you are correct with the scsi/dm Volume group(lvms)
>
>        Looks like there is at least one bug already filed on this.
>
>        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071
>
>        They're blaming this one on VMware but I'm not sure I would trust this
> not to arise on other scsi drivers.
>
>> Regards,
>
>> Antonio
>
>        Regards,
>        Mike
> --
> Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 |  mhw at WittsEnd.com
>   /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678) 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
>   NIC whois: MHW9          | An optimist believes we live in the best of all
>  PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471        | possible worlds.  A pessimist is sure of it!
>
>
> --
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From lmacken at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 16:43:09 2008
From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:43:09 -0400
Subject: Creating OLPC-bootable live USB/SDs and testing the Sugar Spin
Message-ID: <20081013164309.GA4022@x300>

Hey all,

I recently added support to the liveusb-creator for creating live usb sticks
and sd cards that can boot on the OLPC.  Also, thanks to the help of Sebastian
Dziallas, you can now also use it to install the Sugar Spin on your USB key.

To create an OLPC-bootable live USB stick or SD card, grab the latest code from
git, and run it with the --xo argument.

  git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/liveusb-creator; cd liveusb-creator
  ./liveusb-creator --xo -v

I'm looking to do a 3.0 release at some point soon, so if anyone is willing to
help do some beta testing, it would be much apprecated.

Cheers,

luke



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 17:15:27 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:15:27 -0400
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <48F378E4.5000109@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<B218B0DC-F397-48AB-82FF-A550ACAF8531@opennms.org>
	<48F378E4.5000109@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810131015j54624bf9l543072d09769b0b6@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Tarus Balog wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Josh Bressers wrote:
>>
>>> If you don't fix the image, the machine will eat up too much RAM and
>>> won't run, so you need to use an overlay file so the changes stick
>>> between
>>> reboots.
>>
>> Can you point me to a URL/description of how to set up an overlay?
>>
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Data_Persistence
>

And what isn't stated here is that the partition on your SD has to be
big enough to hold both the live image and the overlay.

I have a 4G SD. If you have a 2G SD you'll have to shrink the swap
and/or the overlay to fit.

I finally ended up partitioning my SD with parted so that slice 1 is a
512MB linux-swap and slice 2 is the remainder.

Then simply add '--overlay-size-mb xxxx', where xxxx is <= 2047, to
the options when you image your SD card with livecd-iso-to-disk.sh

Thus if you have a 2G SD you could use 512MB for swap and that would
leave about 832MB for the overlay. Don't forget to 'format' your swap
partition with mkswap.

With that I was finally able to start a terminal window and run top.

Now I need to find the hint someone had about enabling sub-pixel
rendering so that my fonts aren't clipped.

HTH

/Blake



From jweiss at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 17:25:49 2008
From: jweiss at redhat.com (Jeff Weiss)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:25:49 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F3849D.3050007@redhat.com>

Steven Salevan wrote:
> Hey guys,
> At the moment, it appears that GNOME is borderline dysfunctional on my
> XO, despite applying the recommended speed fixes (creating a persistent
> overlay, turning off swappiness).  On runlevel 3, the box seems to be
> stable and at least usable, but if I switch over to runlevel 5, I cannot
> use the box for more than about 3 minutes without receiving a kernel
> panic that leads to a total system freeze.  Alas, this panic is not
> logged to any system log, but I'll be connecting up a serial console
> over the next day or two get it off of the system and into a new BZ.
> 
> Outside of the panic issue, how goes GNOME testing for everyone else on
> the list?  For the few minutes that the device actually works, the
> system seems to crawl along at glacial speeds, taking over a minute to
> bring up simple tools such as the Appearance preferences configurator. 
> Firefox takes more time to load than the box has before reaching the
> aforementioned system freeze.
> 
> So...  if my hunch is right, and I fear it is, I don't know if 2.5
> weeks' worth of testing is going to ensure that we ship a functional
> GNOME-laden version of F10.  From what I've read and heard, the plan is
> to maintain a sizeable swap space on the SD card, as the 256MB of
> built-in RAM alone is not sufficient to run GNOME, which will wear out
> the card in time along with limiting available space (especially if
> we're leaning on shipping the 2G card with each XO).
> 
> This might be a controversial viewpoint, and if so, so be it, but I
> wonder if we shouldn't change our focus to a more lightweight window
> manager such as XFCE.  There's already been work performed to this effect:
> 
> http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/fedora-xo;a=summary
> 
> GNOME may indeed be more familiar to users, but what use is familiarity
> if there's no functionality?  At least XFCE can run comfortably on the
> limited resources of the XO, allowing us to focus on the issues that we
> can indeed address in the limited time we have.  What do you guys think?
> -Steve Salevan
> ssalevan at redhat.com
> 


I agree, GNOME is too heavy for the XO, no matter how much you pare it
down.  I think we need to make sure we aren't headed for disaster, where
people's XO's are bricked after a few months because their SD cards
reach the write limit (due to heavy swapping), and go belly-up.

Even if the SD card can last long enough with swap and GNOME, I think it
may *still* prove unusable.  And if it turns out a swapfile on the SD
isn't doable, GNOME is a non-starter.

At least XFCE can run a bit better, possibly without swap, or at least
swap less (which would help the SD card last longer).

We're asking a lot of the XO to run a modern desktop and modern apps, we
should be prepared to throw quite a bit of functionality out the window
just to get it to run at all.

Jeff Weiss






From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 13 17:25:12 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:55:12 +0530
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810131015j54624bf9l543072d09769b0b6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>	<B218B0DC-F397-48AB-82FF-A550ACAF8531@opennms.org>	<48F378E4.5000109@fedoraproject.org>
	<2e084c470810131015j54624bf9l543072d09769b0b6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F38478.3070109@fedoraproject.org>

Blake St. Claire wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Rahul Sundaram
> <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Tarus Balog wrote:
>>> On Oct 10, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Josh Bressers wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you don't fix the image, the machine will eat up too much RAM and
>>>> won't run, so you need to use an overlay file so the changes stick
>>>> between
>>>> reboots.
>>> Can you point me to a URL/description of how to set up an overlay?
>>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Data_Persistence
>>
> 
> And what isn't stated here is that the partition on your SD has to be
> big enough to hold both the live image and the overlay.
> 

The last sentence in that paragraph has a note that does mention this 
point.

Rahul



From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Mon Oct 13 17:05:37 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:05:37 -0400
Subject: kernel 2.6.26.6-67.fc9
In-Reply-To: <1223832711.7723.139.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
References: <1223729063.3183.7.camel@karlworkstation>
	<1223832711.7723.139.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
Message-ID: <1223917537.7723.185.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>

Slightly off topic,

	I've now also got 2.6.27-3 from rawhide running in F9 once I worked
around an initrd race condition with the VMware scsi drivers now that
dm-mirror, dm-zero, and dm-snapshot are no longer modules in 2.6.27.
Problem was causing lvm to run too early and not detect the physical
volumes.

	https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071

	Now that I'm past that, 2.6.27 seems pretty solid and has not shown
signs of the IPSec dain bramage that was present in 2.6.26.5.

	Mike

On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:31 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 14:44 +0200, Carlo Raudino wrote:
> > Today (after using the old RC1) I installed the kernel-2.6.26.6-67.fc9
> > from koji....

> > I think is very stable, for now it's running without troubles.

> > Has anyone encountered problems?

> 	Nope.  No problems here.  And this appears to fix the IPSec related
> random kernel hangs in 2.6.26.5 that I've reported.

> 	https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466303

> > I remember in .6 were dropped old patches... so it's a nice mantainance
> > update.
> 
> > Will it be pushed to updates? :-)
> 
> 	Sounds like it, or something very much like it, based on the comments
> Dave Jones made in the bugzilla thread.
> 
> > -- 
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> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> 
> 	Mike
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From ajax at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 17:54:38 2008
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:54:38 -0400
Subject: Xorg 1.5.2 segfaulting
In-Reply-To: <753ec7300810130921ga974e37h3cfd51d6f4df445f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <753ec7300810130921ga974e37h3cfd51d6f4df445f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223920478.7707.89.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 09:21 -0700, David Mack wrote:
> On a Dell GX270 (i386) Xorg is segfaulting. The machine is booting to
> runlevel 3, I log in as root and run startx. I've tried this with and
> without xorg.conf, with and without /etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi.
> 
> Is anyone else seeing this or am I just cursed?

Creepy.  Not seeing that here, and the lack of backtrace at the segfault
is worrying.  I'll get that fixed, that should at least get us closer to
knowing why you're crashing.

- ajax
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From bkearney at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 17:55:57 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:55:57 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <48F3849D.3050007@redhat.com>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <48F3849D.3050007@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F38BAD.1010509@redhat.com>

Jeff Weiss wrote:
> Steven Salevan wrote:
I did the following

- Get the latest fedora-xo code (git clone 
git://dev.laptop.org/projects/fedora-xo)
- Edit the repo files in olpc-xfce to be the same as those in fedora-gnome
- Build an iso (livecd-creator --config olpc-xfce.ks)
- Burn it to the SD card (./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --xo --overlay-size-mb 
512 --extra-kernel-args 3 
/home/bkearney/code/fedora-xo/livecd-olpc-xfce-200810131307.iso /dev/sdb1)


And I am able to get a running xfce instance. Working on network 
connectivity now.

-- bk



From yunus.tji.nyan at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 18:28:09 2008
From: yunus.tji.nyan at gmail.com (yunusf9 tester)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:28:09 +0700
Subject: KPPP crashed when tried to delete modem created before
Message-ID: <1223836089.9569.22.camel@yunix.tester.org>

Hi

Each time I want to delete modem I created before using "KPPP
Configuration - KPPP" window (Modems tab), I got "KPPP-The KDE Crash
Handler" window message (see below for the message contain on the
window)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
A Fatal Error Occurred

The application KPPP (kppp) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
Please help us improve the software you use by filing a report at
http://bugs.kde.org. Useful details include how to reproduce the error,
documents that were loaded, etc.
------------------------------------------------------------------

[yunusf9 at yunix ~]$ yum list kdenetwork
Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit
Installed Packages
kdenetwork.x86_64     7:4.1.2-2.fc9          installed       
[yunusf9 at yunix ~]$

Is this known issue?

Thank you
yunus

==environtment==
Desktop : GNOME, KDE, XFCE
Laptop  : Acer TravelMate 6291
OS      : F9
Dial-up tools:
	KPPP,system-config-network, wvdial,
	NetworkManager (works when SELinux in permisive mode) related to ?
---https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465764
Modem   :HUAWEI HSDPA/UMTS/EDGE/GPRS/GSM E220 USB MODEM




From bruno at wolff.to  Mon Oct 13 18:47:52 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:47:52 -0500
Subject: F11???
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810130158i195fa323p8bf3dc53c250d882@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810130158i195fa323p8bf3dc53c250d882@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081013184752.GA28560@wolff.to>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:58:07 +0200,
  Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jumping in koji I have found same packages already marked as F11.
> Is the development band already playing another song??? ;-)
> Did I miss some news???

Maintainers have been allowed to branch for F11 for a week or so.



From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Mon Oct 13 18:47:42 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:47:42 -0400
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <4a2527c40810130937v32454d32i38ea9be085c8bde9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <411353.61028.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1223914749.7723.178.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
	<4a2527c40810130937v32454d32i38ea9be085c8bde9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223923662.7723.199.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 18:37 +0200, Bruno GARDIN wrote:
> Antonio i just tried your trick:
> Up at line 1411 I changed "wait_for_scsi="no"" to "wait_for_scsi="yes""
> and rebuild the initrd
> I worked just fine. Thanks a lot.

	That was my trick.  I think you got the attributions swapped around,
but that's ok.  It was getting a little thick.

	Looks like the workaround has caught the attention of the folks on
bugzilla for that bug.  It's being discussed now what the best solution
for the race condition is with an agreement that this race must be fix.

> Bruno

	Mike

> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 08:42 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> >
> >> Michael,
> >
> >> You have a very valid point.  My problem was that the partition(not
> >> the boot partition) was ext4 and had ext4dev, and it was changed to
> >> plainly ext4.  I had to change /etc/fstab from ext4dev to ext4 then
> >> reinstalled the kernel and it worked :)
> >
> >        Yeah, reading the various threads, I had already come to the conclusion
> > that we were dealing with at LEAST two different problems, one being the
> > ext4dev/ext4 problem.  But I wasn't using ext4 (in fact some of my
> > testing is the 2.6.27 kernel on F9) and others were reporting that it
> > wasn't fixing the problem.
> >
> >> But you are correct with the scsi/dm Volume group(lvms)
> >
> >        Looks like there is at least one bug already filed on this.
> >
> >        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071
> >
> >        They're blaming this one on VMware but I'm not sure I would trust this
> > not to arise on other scsi drivers.
> >
> >> Regards,
> >
> >> Antonio
> >
> >        Regards,
> >        Mike
> > --
> > Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 |  mhw at WittsEnd.com
> >   /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678) 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
> >   NIC whois: MHW9          | An optimist believes we live in the best of all
> >  PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471        | possible worlds.  A pessimist is sure of it!
> >
> >
> > --
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> > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe:
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> BeGe
> 
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   /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678) 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
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From jspaar at users.sourceforge.net  Mon Oct 13 19:17:19 2008
From: jspaar at users.sourceforge.net (Jack Spaar)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:17:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>


On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:50:09 -0400, Steven Salevan wrote:

> Hey guys,
> At the moment, it appears that GNOME is borderline dysfunctional on my
> XO, despite applying the recommended speed fixes (creating a persistent
> overlay, turning off swappiness).
[...]

I'm also finding the recent GNOME iso un-testable on the XO for the 
reasons you mention.  However, when I tested an earlier version of the F10 
live iso that Jeremy Katz produced for the XO, even without swap it was 
very functional and at least fairly usable.  (It was too slow, but nowhere 
near as slow as the current iso, and it didn't crash or freeze.)

Upshot: XFCE might well be better, but my guess is that GNOME is not the 
first-order problem here given the earlier success.

--Jack Spaar



From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Mon Oct 13 19:39:24 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:39:24 -0400
Subject: vmware VM with kernel 2.6.27-1
In-Reply-To: <4a2527c40810130903l63965894j32c7e4891b1e7200@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F148E8.4000204@cvalley.net>
	<1223913258.7723.172.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
	<4a2527c40810130903l63965894j32c7e4891b1e7200@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223926764.7723.212.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 18:03 +0200, Bruno GARDIN wrote:
> Michael i am following the bugzilla  466071 on this problem but there
> is no obvious bypass (as far as i understand). What do you suggest as
> the simplest one ?

	What I would recommend for the moment is to boot into a working kernel
and edit /sbin/mkinitrd and go to line 1411 or there about and change:

	wait_for_scsi="no"

	to

	wait_for_scsi="yes"

	Then rebuild your initrd like this:

	mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.6.27-3.fc10.i686.img 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686

	This may not be the final solution.  This is just a workaround to force
wait_for_scsi for all initrd builds.  That may be suboptimal in the long
run but necessary here for now.

	Mike

> Regards.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 19:46 -0500, Cory Rainey wrote:
> >> Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:55:32 +0200 From: "Bruno GARDIN"
> >> <bgardin at gmail.com> Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
> >> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases"
> >> <fedora-test-list at redhat.com> Message-ID:
> >> <4a2527c40810111055h3c7b9e7bqb3fd93de477b7cbc at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am testing rawhide for a
> >> few month now but i have problem of boot since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My
> >> rawhide is a virtual system on vmware server now in version 2.0.
> >> Whenever i try to boot, i got the following errors at the end :
> >> Activating logical volumes VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found Unable to
> >> access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01) Creating root device
> >> Mounting root file system mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as
> >> ext3. No such file or directory Setting up other filesystems setuproot:
> >> moving /dev failed:No such file or directory setuproot: error
> >> mounting/proc: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /sys:
> >> No such file or directory Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No
> >> such file or directory Switching to new root and running init swithroot:
> >> mount failed: No such file or directory Booting has failed Boot works
> >> fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but fails also with 2.6.27-1. I have
> >> looked at the thread related to ext4 but i am using ext3. I have also
> >> tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no change. Any idea of what the
> >> problem could be ?
> >> -- BeGe
> >
> >> Exactly same problem here.
> >
> >        Seems to be a race condition in the initrd.  Recent changes in the
> > kernel have removed dm-mirror, dm-zero, and dm-snapshot as initrd
> > modules.  That's resulted in a race condition where lvm starts up too
> > soon, before the scsi devices have settled.  More details are in another
> > response in a parallel branch of this thread but there are a couple of
> > workarounds.
> >
> >        Mike
> > --
> > Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 |  mhw at WittsEnd.com
> >   /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678) 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
> >   NIC whois: MHW9          | An optimist believes we live in the best of all
> >  PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471        | possible worlds.  A pessimist is sure of it!
> >
> >
> > --
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> > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe:
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> BeGe
> 
-- 
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   /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678) 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
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From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 19:52:00 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:52:00 -0500
Subject: Nodoka buttons with compiz enabled
In-Reply-To: <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>  <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1223927520.3198.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>

When I enable compiz the spacing of my window buttons with the Nodoka
theme changes.  I get about a cm space between the buttons versus
without compiz enabled they are all nestled together.  I'm curious if
this is bug or if this was on purpose?  This was not the case in F9.
I've pasted a screenshot at the following url:

http://picpaste.com/windowborders.jpg

Cheers,
C




From david at gnsa.us  Mon Oct 13 19:47:28 2008
From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:47:28 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <d6e6dfeb0810131247r47c89733p2173085967cc138a@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jack Spaar
<jspaar at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> I'm also finding the recent GNOME iso un-testable on the XO for the
> reasons you mention.  However, when I tested an earlier version of the F10
> live iso that Jeremy Katz produced for the XO, even without swap it was
> very functional and at least fairly usable.  (It was too slow, but nowhere
> near as slow as the current iso, and it didn't crash or freeze.)
>
> Upshot: XFCE might well be better, but my guess is that GNOME is not the
> first-order problem here given the earlier success.
>

Jack,
I have found the same thing - the previous image was far more usable,
a bit slow but not too bad and certainly not to the point where the
machine just wouldn't work.
While we all are thinking that gnome is too heavy, I think there is
something else that is the problem.
I wonder if LXDE is an option - it's a bit more newb friendly from an
interface perspective than xfce and supposedly a bit lighter.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 13 20:04:51 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:34:51 +0530
Subject: Nodoka buttons with compiz enabled
In-Reply-To: <1223927520.3198.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1223927520.3198.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>
Message-ID: <48F3A9E3.1060403@fedoraproject.org>

Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> When I enable compiz the spacing of my window buttons with the Nodoka
> theme changes.  I get about a cm space between the buttons versus
> without compiz enabled they are all nestled together.  I'm curious if
> this is bug or if this was on purpose?  This was not the case in F9.
> I've pasted a screenshot at the following url:
> 
> http://picpaste.com/windowborders.jpg

Seems like a bug to me. Can you file a bug report?

Rahul



From selinux at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 20:21:59 2008
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:21:59 -0700
Subject: Nodoka buttons with compiz enabled
In-Reply-To: <48F3A9E3.1060403@fedoraproject.org>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1223927520.3198.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<48F3A9E3.1060403@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530810131321w3e5bfe28xa3fa25653c9c5f09@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
>>
>> When I enable compiz the spacing of my window buttons with the Nodoka
>> theme changes.  I get about a cm space between the buttons versus
>> without compiz enabled they are all nestled together.  I'm curious if
>> this is bug or if this was on purpose?  This was not the case in F9.
>> I've pasted a screenshot at the following url:
>>
>> http://picpaste.com/windowborders.jpg
>
> Seems like a bug to me. Can you file a bug report?
>
> Rahul
>
> --
Is this the same?  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446457

tom
-- 
Tom London



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 20:29:57 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:29:57 -0500
Subject: Nodoka buttons with compiz enabled
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530810131321w3e5bfe28xa3fa25653c9c5f09@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1223927520.3198.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<48F3A9E3.1060403@fedoraproject.org>
	<4c4ba1530810131321w3e5bfe28xa3fa25653c9c5f09@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223929797.3198.3.camel@cambridge-laptop>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 13:21 -0700, Tom London wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram
> <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> >>
> >> When I enable compiz the spacing of my window buttons with the Nodoka
> >> theme changes.  I get about a cm space between the buttons versus
> >> without compiz enabled they are all nestled together.  I'm curious if
> >> this is bug or if this was on purpose?  This was not the case in F9.
> >> I've pasted a screenshot at the following url:
> >>
> >> http://picpaste.com/windowborders.jpg
> >
> > Seems like a bug to me. Can you file a bug report?
> >
> > Rahul
> >
> > --
> Is this the same?  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446457
> 

Yes that is.  I'll add a comment to that.  
Thanks

> tom
> -- 
> Tom London
> 



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 20:40:00 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:40:00 -0500
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
Message-ID: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>

Hi,

I have a couple of questions regarding grub and plymouth and whether
what I'm seeing may or may not be a bug. 

First, when I boot my laptop I am usually greeted by a GRUB menu with a
background image, this is not the case in F10.  Instead, my laptop goes
automatically into booting from a blank screen.  Then I get a couple of
messages and then plymouth starts.  Is this normal or should I get the
usual GRUB menu with the count down allowing me to select kernels?
Note: this laptop is only running F10 it's not a dual boot or anything
strange.

Second, when plymouth starts my screen is black except for a progress
bar, which is doesn't progress smoothly and changes a few colours with
the words Fedora 9.92 in the lower right hand corner.  However, the
progress bar does eventual fill out though it still flickers with
different colours.  I have an intel 945 video chip.  

Thanks!
C



From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 20:59:55 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:59:55 -0700
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <d6e6dfeb0810131247r47c89733p2173085967cc138a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<d6e6dfeb0810131247r47c89733p2173085967cc138a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810131359p13e1958ega2bdc95c9a82894f@mail.gmail.com>

I'd love to see multiple "spins" for anyone with the time to try them out.
This would include xfce, headless, beowulf cluster, etc. :)

However, I think in the testing period we should stick to our goal of
running the stock Fedora 10 LiveCD on the XO.  Keep in mind that
if that's not possible, then running Fedora 10 LiveCD on *any* older
hardware similar to the XO is also not possible. That sounds like a
bug to me. Maybe we need to check bogomips in firstboot and cut
down on services and switch to some sort of "lightweight GNOME"
or xfce. I would argue for GNOME first since there are a lot of
guides and screenshots for newbies that assume certain things
about the menus.



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 21:36:05 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:06:05 -0430
Subject: Nodoka buttons with compiz enabled
In-Reply-To: <1223927520.3198.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>  <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1223927520.3198.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>
Message-ID: <1223933765.14890.25.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

When you have a new topic, start a new thread. Don't hijack an existing
one.

poc



From adam.huffman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 21:44:37 2008
From: adam.huffman at gmail.com (Adam Huffman)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:44:37 +0100
Subject: Anyone else seeing a stutter in gnome using rawhide
In-Reply-To: <48F365E0.3020100@comcast.net>
References: <48F365E0.3020100@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48F3C145.2080606@gmail.com>

Michael G. Martin wrote:
> I saw the same problem.  Changing the desktop background fixed it for 
> me.  Something with the background changing colors based on time of 
> day seemed to cause a nasty pause and icon refresh.
>
> -Michael
>

Hmm.  Just tried changing the desktop background in case that solved the 
problem and all my fonts went haywire - much too large. Now some are too 
small and some still too large.

Have also noticed that there's something not quite right with key 
bindings.  Owing to another bug I'm changing to the console and back 
into X, and when I return to X, the GNOME Help window appears, as though 
the Alt-F1 to return to X hasn't been dealt with properly.



From johannbg at hi.is  Mon Oct 13 22:33:28 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:33:28 +0000
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
Message-ID: <48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>

Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a couple of questions regarding grub and plymouth and whether
> what I'm seeing may or may not be a bug. 
>
> First, when I boot my laptop I am usually greeted by a GRUB menu with a
> background image, this is not the case in F10.  Instead, my laptop goes
> automatically into booting from a blank screen.  Then I get a couple of
> messages and then plymouth starts.  Is this normal or should I get the
> usual GRUB menu with the count down allowing me to select kernels?
> Note: this laptop is only running F10 it's not a dual boot or anything
> strange.
>
>   
This is expected behaviour press esc key while the black screen is displayed
and the grub menu gets displayed.
> Second, when plymouth starts my screen is black except for a progress
> bar, which is doesn't progress smoothly and changes a few colours with
> the words Fedora 9.92 in the lower right hand corner.  However, the
> progress bar does eventual fill out though it still flickers with
> different colours.  I have an intel 945 video chip.  
>
>   
Also expected.
KMS works only on ATI cards, Intel not far away but probably wont make 
it in time for F10
Nvidia some where in the distant future...

JBG



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Subject: No Graphical shutdown available
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Logging out/rebooting did not fix the problem for me, todays updates, however, seem to have done the trick


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From bressers at redhat.com  Mon Oct 13 22:59:14 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:59:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
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----- "Joshua Daniel Franklin" <jdf.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd love to see multiple "spins" for anyone with the time to try them
> out.
> This would include xfce, headless, beowulf cluster, etc. :)
> 
> However, I think in the testing period we should stick to our goal of
> running the stock Fedora 10 LiveCD on the XO.  Keep in mind that
> if that's not possible, then running Fedora 10 LiveCD on *any* older
> hardware similar to the XO is also not possible. That sounds like a
> bug to me. Maybe we need to check bogomips in firstboot and cut
> down on services and switch to some sort of "lightweight GNOME"
> or xfce. I would argue for GNOME first since there are a lot of
> guides and screenshots for newbies that assume certain things
> about the menus.
> 

As far as I know, this is the plan, but I admit, there is a rather serious
leadership vacuum for this testing effort.  What is the plan to make the current
images usable?  They obviously are not acceptable in their current state and I
presume we won't be giving the G1G1 participants a lengthy and error prone set of
directions.

Perhaps it would be worth creating an "tiny" spin or something similar for these
little netbooks.

You can get Gnome to run, without swap, as long as you follow my previous
directions to disable most services and disable most of the things that Gnome runs
(like the packagekit daemon, which is a real killer when it tries to update things).

I'd also suggest you install the Midori web browser.  It uses considerably less RAM
than Firefox.  It's not as robust, but in this instance, I think saving RAM is more
important than features.

-- 
    JB



From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com  Mon Oct 13 23:34:38 2008
From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:34:38 -0500
Subject: Anyone else seeing a stutter in gnome using rawhide
In-Reply-To: <1223897018.3632.140.camel@moose>
References: <1223897018.3632.140.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <48F3DB0E.10505@camerontech.com>

Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> I get stutters in gnome while using rawhide.
> 
> If, for example, I'm typing, the text will stop appearing for second (or
> so) and then all the letters I've typed over that time appear.
> 
> Add to this that the icons on the desktop will disappear, and then
> reappear.  This usually happens at the end of the pause.
> 
> Anyone else seen this, and more importantly any ideas what might be
> causing it and what package to file a bug against.
> 
> I should have said something earlier.  I've noticed this for some time,
> but I just assumed it was so obvious that it would be fixed quickly.
> 
> Oh, I've seen the problem three times while typing this email.  (about 2
> minutes of typing)
> 
> R.

Yeah, I've been seeing that as well...  I've got system monitor running 
and I am not seeing any spike in CPU or disk, just the random micro-hang 
that you are calling a stutter.

No idea what causes it, but I did notice it when I opened any graphical 
tool like gnome-sound-properties.

Using rawhide up to date as of about an hour ago.

Thomas

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From jameshubbard at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 01:05:31 2008
From: jameshubbard at gmail.com (James Hubbard)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:05:31 -0400
Subject: F10 Snap 1
Message-ID: <f3ddc6d30810131805y2923bf7dj18a93528f33103c9@mail.gmail.com>

Fedora 10 Snapshot 1 LiveCD has worked much better for than the Beta
Live CD.  While trying to use the Beta, I was not able to get it to
boot into X.  I had tried to a couple of boot params to force it to
use vesa, but I don't know if those are available anymore.  The video
card is listed as an ATI 3200.

With the Snapshot 1 LiveCD, it did boot into X.  My problem though is
that at 1920x1200, the login/desktop screen wiggles.  The more things
that are open, the worse it is.  By dropping down to a lower
resolution, the problem goes away.

I also installed from the LiveCD.  Everything was going fine until I
tried to send the hardware profile during first boot.  I didn't
realize that my network wasn't connected.  When I clicked send, it
dropped to a black screen and said something about iterating over int.

Profile:
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_40f59bc4-1c21-470b-88bc-1aeefda634b4

-- 
James Hubbard



From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Tue Oct 14 01:15:56 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:15:56 -0400
Subject: vmware VM with kernel 2.6.27-1
In-Reply-To: <1223926764.7723.212.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
References: <48F148E8.4000204@cvalley.net>
	<1223913258.7723.172.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
	<4a2527c40810130903l63965894j32c7e4891b1e7200@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 15:39 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 18:03 +0200, Bruno GARDIN wrote:
> > Michael i am following the bugzilla  466071 on this problem but there
> > is no obvious bypass (as far as i understand). What do you suggest as
> > the simplest one ?
> 
> 	What I would recommend for the moment is to boot into a working kernel
> and edit /sbin/mkinitrd and go to line 1411 or there about and change:

> 	wait_for_scsi="no"

> 	to

> 	wait_for_scsi="yes"

> 	Then rebuild your initrd like this:

> 	mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.6.27-3.fc10.i686.img 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686

> 	This may not be the final solution.  This is just a workaround to force
> wait_for_scsi for all initrd builds.  That may be suboptimal in the long
> run but necessary here for now.

	From the discussion in bugzilla, there's now another option (and a
half).

	If you use the option --with=scsi_wait_scan with mkinitrd, it should do
almost the same thing.  It should achieve the same result just slightly
differently.

	The half option is the same option just another way.  It's the fact
that this you can stick into /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd as follows:

MODULES=scsi_wait_scan

	So now you don't have to modify the mkinitrd script and you don't have
to specify it explicitly on the command line either.

> 	Mike

	Mike

> > Regards.
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 19:46 -0500, Cory Rainey wrote:
> > >> Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:55:32 +0200 From: "Bruno GARDIN"
> > >> <bgardin at gmail.com> Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
> > >> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases"
> > >> <fedora-test-list at redhat.com> Message-ID:
> > >> <4a2527c40810111055h3c7b9e7bqb3fd93de477b7cbc at mail.gmail.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am testing rawhide for a
> > >> few month now but i have problem of boot since kernel 2.6.27-0.398. My
> > >> rawhide is a virtual system on vmware server now in version 2.0.
> > >> Whenever i try to boot, i got the following errors at the end :
> > >> Activating logical volumes VOlume group "VolGroup00" not found Unable to
> > >> access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01) Creating root device
> > >> Mounting root file system mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as
> > >> ext3. No such file or directory Setting up other filesystems setuproot:
> > >> moving /dev failed:No such file or directory setuproot: error
> > >> mounting/proc: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /sys:
> > >> No such file or directory Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No
> > >> such file or directory Switching to new root and running init swithroot:
> > >> mount failed: No such file or directory Booting has failed Boot works
> > >> fine with kernel 2.6.27-0.382 but fails also with 2.6.27-1. I have
> > >> looked at the thread related to ext4 but i am using ext3. I have also
> > >> tried a new mkinitrd on 2.6.27-1 but no change. Any idea of what the
> > >> problem could be ?
> > >> -- BeGe
> > >
> > >> Exactly same problem here.
> > >
> > >        Seems to be a race condition in the initrd.  Recent changes in the
> > > kernel have removed dm-mirror, dm-zero, and dm-snapshot as initrd
> > > modules.  That's resulted in a race condition where lvm starts up too
> > > soon, before the scsi devices have settled.  More details are in another
> > > response in a parallel branch of this thread but there are a couple of
> > > workarounds.
> > >
> > >        Mike
> > > --
> > > Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 |  mhw at WittsEnd.com
> > >   /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678) 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
> > >   NIC whois: MHW9          | An optimist believes we live in the best of all
> > >  PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471        | possible worlds.  A pessimist is sure of it!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > fedora-test-list mailing list
> > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > > To unsubscribe:
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > BeGe
> > 
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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From msolberg at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 01:58:44 2008
From: msolberg at redhat.com (Michael Solberg)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:58:44 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
Message-ID: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi!

I'm sure someone's thought of this before, but I keep running into this
issue on the LiveUSB on the XO.

The issue is that /var/cache/yum is mounted as tmpfs on the Live image.
When I log into a desktop session that already knows my wireless key,
the updates applet attempts to download all the packages from Rawhide.
This fills the 256MB of RAM pretty quickly and that hangs the machine.
Does it make sense to turn that applet off in this case?  Or maybe not
mount /var/cache/yum as tmpfs when there's an overlay?

Michael.




From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Tue Oct 14 01:58:43 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:58:43 -0400
Subject: Rawhide does not boot since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <1223923662.7723.199.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
References: <411353.61028.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 14:47 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 18:37 +0200, Bruno GARDIN wrote:
> > Antonio i just tried your trick:
> > Up at line 1411 I changed "wait_for_scsi="no"" to "wait_for_scsi="yes""
> > and rebuild the initrd
> > I worked just fine. Thanks a lot.

> 	That was my trick.  I think you got the attributions swapped around,
> but that's ok.  It was getting a little thick.

> 	Looks like the workaround has caught the attention of the folks on
> bugzilla for that bug.  It's being discussed now what the best solution
> for the race condition is with an agreement that this race must be fix.

	In discussion over in bugzilla, we determined another workaround.  You
can use the "--with=scsi_wait_scan" option when running mkinitrd OR
create the file /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd with the following line in it:

MODULES=scsi_wait_scan

	Then recreate your initrd.  It works slightly differently but has the
same effect and you're not modifying mkinitrd.

> > Bruno

> 	Mike

	Mike

> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 08:42 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > >
> > >> Michael,
> > >
> > >> You have a very valid point.  My problem was that the partition(not
> > >> the boot partition) was ext4 and had ext4dev, and it was changed to
> > >> plainly ext4.  I had to change /etc/fstab from ext4dev to ext4 then
> > >> reinstalled the kernel and it worked :)
> > >
> > >        Yeah, reading the various threads, I had already come to the conclusion
> > > that we were dealing with at LEAST two different problems, one being the
> > > ext4dev/ext4 problem.  But I wasn't using ext4 (in fact some of my
> > > testing is the 2.6.27 kernel on F9) and others were reporting that it
> > > wasn't fixing the problem.
> > >
> > >> But you are correct with the scsi/dm Volume group(lvms)
> > >
> > >        Looks like there is at least one bug already filed on this.
> > >
> > >        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071
> > >
> > >        They're blaming this one on VMware but I'm not sure I would trust this
> > > not to arise on other scsi drivers.
> > >
> > >> Regards,
> > >
> > >> Antonio
> > >
> > >        Regards,
> > >        Mike
> > > --
> > > Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 |  mhw at WittsEnd.com
> > >   /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678) 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
> > >   NIC whois: MHW9          | An optimist believes we live in the best of all
> > >  PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471        | possible worlds.  A pessimist is sure of it!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > > To unsubscribe:
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > BeGe
> > 
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From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 14 02:13:55 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:13:55 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1223950435.16857.91.camel@rosebud>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:58 -0400, Michael Solberg wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm sure someone's thought of this before, but I keep running into this
> issue on the LiveUSB on the XO.
> 
> The issue is that /var/cache/yum is mounted as tmpfs on the Live image.
> When I log into a desktop session that already knows my wireless key,
> the updates applet attempts to download all the packages from Rawhide.
> This fills the 256MB of RAM pretty quickly and that hangs the machine.
> Does it make sense to turn that applet off in this case?  Or maybe not
> mount /var/cache/yum as tmpfs when there's an overlay?
> 

yes, it makes sense to turn it off.

maybe even remove it.
-sv




From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com  Tue Oct 14 02:40:36 2008
From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:40:36 -0500
Subject: audio pops and snaps?
Message-ID: <48F406A4.9060800@camerontech.com>

All -

I have an Abit KN8 SLI motherboard with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 
Processor 4600+ (Socket 939) and 4GB memory.  The sound card is an 
on-board nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2).

I installed off the F10 x86_64 beta DVD ISO image and updated against 
rawhide about an hour ago.

I'm noticing a *lot* of audio pops and snaps.  For instance, I use 
Pidgin and I have sound events turned on for pretty much everything. 
Often the snaps come as a sound event occurs like someone "speaking" on 
IRC - instead of a clear note when someone "talks" there is a snap and 
then the note.  Also, when someone joins or leaves, the note is often 
(but not always) interrupted by either a short sound dropout or a pop.

In other cases, just sitting here typing away on this e-mail with no 
sound event being triggered, I hear a pop.

This system works great with RHEL 5.2 installed, and I don't recall any 
audio issues under F9.  This seems to be unique to F10/rawhide.

BZ 466840 filed.


TC

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From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 03:22:56 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:22:56 -0400
Subject: audio pops and snaps?
In-Reply-To: <48F406A4.9060800@camerontech.com>
References: <48F406A4.9060800@camerontech.com>
Message-ID: <1223954576.13861.35.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:40 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> I'm noticing a *lot* of audio pops and snaps.  For instance, I use 
> Pidgin and I have sound events turned on for pretty much everything. 
> Often the snaps come as a sound event occurs like someone "speaking" on 
> IRC - instead of a clear note when someone "talks" there is a snap and 
> then the note.  Also, when someone joins or leaves, the note is often 
> (but not always) interrupted by either a short sound dropout or a pop.

The "pops" are ALSA initializing the sound card as PulseAudio opens it
for playback. PA closes the audio device after a short period with no
output.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

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From jamundso at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 04:21:02 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:21:02 -0500
Subject: audio pops and snaps?
In-Reply-To: <1223954576.13861.35.camel@ignacio.lan>
References: <48F406A4.9060800@camerontech.com>
	<1223954576.13861.35.camel@ignacio.lan>
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
<ivazqueznet at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:40 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> I'm noticing a *lot* of audio pops and snaps.  For instance, I use
>> Pidgin and I have sound events turned on for pretty much everything.
>> Often the snaps come as a sound event occurs like someone "speaking" on
>> IRC - instead of a clear note when someone "talks" there is a snap and
>> then the note.  Also, when someone joins or leaves, the note is often
>> (but not always) interrupted by either a short sound dropout or a pop.
>
> The "pops" are ALSA initializing the sound card as PulseAudio opens it
> for playback. PA closes the audio device after a short period with no
> output.

No, there is more to it. Yes, *one* "pop" might be an audio init
indicator, but Thomas indicates "a *lot* of audio pops and snaps".
bz is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466840
Either it works for you, or your hardware doesn't apply and you move along...
Late night again, right Ignacio? I'm OK with one of two of these
pointers - more than that and I start charging for my services - beer
and/or coffee usually suffice... :-)

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 04:58:34 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:58:34 -0500
Subject: Shutdown entry missing from GNOME System menu
In-Reply-To: <67437bc40810131359p13e1958ega2bdc95c9a82894f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<d6e6dfeb0810131247r47c89733p2173085967cc138a@mail.gmail.com>
	<67437bc40810131359p13e1958ega2bdc95c9a82894f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223960314.4399.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>

After a recent yum update, the Shutdown entry is missing from the System
menu.  The strangest thing is that it's not always missing.  Most of the
times it's missing but not always.  What could be causing this?



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 05:01:44 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:01:44 -0500
Subject: Shutdown entry missing from GNOME System menu
In-Reply-To: <1223960314.4399.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<d6e6dfeb0810131247r47c89733p2173085967cc138a@mail.gmail.com>
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Quick update ... apparently open alacarte makes it reappear.  strange.
is this known?
chris

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 23:58 -0500, Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> After a recent yum update, the Shutdown entry is missing from the System
> menu.  The strangest thing is that it's not always missing.  Most of the
> times it's missing but not always.  What could be causing this?



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Tue Oct 14 05:45:40 2008
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:45:40 +1100
Subject: Anyone else seeing a stutter in gnome using rawhide
In-Reply-To: <101320081206.4848.48F339B00005C750000012F022230647629B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>
References: <101320081206.4848.48F339B00005C750000012F022230647629B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A049C9D0108D203019B@att.net>
Message-ID: <1223963140.3243.6.camel@moose>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 12:06 +0000, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > If, for example, I'm typing, the text will stop appearing for second (or
> > so) and then all the letters I've typed over that time appear.
> > 
> > Add to this that the icons on the desktop will disappear, and then
> > reappear.  This usually happens at the end of the pause.
> 
> I've certainly noticed the pauses. I haven't seen the icon behavior.
> 
> My impression is that keyboard and mouse handling has somehow become vastly
> lower priority than disk IO processing. I've noticed when running "yum update"
> I'll see the interactive pauses right at the same time each new rpm is
> finished downloading or installing. (This is on a system with USB keyboard
> and mouse and SATA disks).

This for me is a whole of desktop thing.

Examples:

* If you run top, then top's refresh stalls when it happens.

* Just as I started to write this email I dragged the window across the
desktop at just the right time.  My windows go transparent when I
dragged and the window (having been released) remained transparent for a
moment while the system stalled.

* Games (like xmoto) stall for a moment and then resume.


Rodd


> 
> 
> 
-- 
"It's a fine line between denial and faith.
 It's much better on my side"



From mike at miketc.net  Tue Oct 14 06:33:02 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:33:02 -0500
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop> <48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 22:33 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a couple of questions regarding grub and plymouth and whether
> > what I'm seeing may or may not be a bug. 
> >
> > First, when I boot my laptop I am usually greeted by a GRUB menu with a
> > background image, this is not the case in F10.  Instead, my laptop goes
> > automatically into booting from a blank screen.  Then I get a couple of
> > messages and then plymouth starts.  Is this normal or should I get the
> > usual GRUB menu with the count down allowing me to select kernels?
> > Note: this laptop is only running F10 it's not a dual boot or anything
> > strange.
> >
> >   
> This is expected behaviour press esc key while the black screen is displayed
> and the grub menu gets displayed.

Just hitting the space bar, maybe any key will get the grub menu when it
first starts to boot before plymouth.

> > Second, when plymouth starts my screen is black except for a progress
> > bar, which is doesn't progress smoothly and changes a few colours with
> > the words Fedora 9.92 in the lower right hand corner.  However, the
> > progress bar does eventual fill out though it still flickers with
> > different colours.  I have an intel 945 video chip.  
> >
> >   
> Also expected.
> KMS works only on ATI cards, Intel not far away but probably wont make 
> it in time for F10
> Nvidia some where in the distant future...

I have an nvidia chipset, and I see the same thing the OP mentioned.  So
this isn't what is shown with ATI Cards/chipsets?  If not, what do
*they* see? Is there a screen shot out there somewhere of what *should*
be shown?

-- 
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302 at fedoraproject.org



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 06:34:57 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:34:57 +0200
Subject: Gnome crashing all the time :(
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810130349s7c9e063eif59fcdb075f0ac09@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810130349s7c9e063eif59fcdb075f0ac09@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810132334i22fb3a0fhedc9d3270112d52b@mail.gmail.com>

> Here are the two .xsession-errors :
> http://fpaste.org/paste/7492
> http://fpaste.org/paste/7496

Does any have some ideas why is this happening?

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From jamundso at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 06:47:52 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:47:52 -0500
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop> <48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>
	<1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:
> I have an nvidia chipset, and I see the same thing the OP mentioned.  So
> this isn't what is shown with ATI Cards/chipsets?  If not, what do
> *they* see? Is there a screen shot out there somewhere of what *should*
> be shown?

There is a FIXME on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterStartup
[I can throw something up there when I sort out my FAS login...]

However even with ATI cards, Plymouth sometimes does the progress bar,
sometimes the pretty infinity thing. Depends maybe on KMS or boot
params.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From jamundso at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 07:01:26 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:01:26 -0500
Subject: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810140001s342ed851y283aeb0f6e81780b@mail.gmail.com>

See... what?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule
Historically Test and General Availability releases happen at 10:00am
Eastern US Time, which is either 1500UTC or 1400UTC depending on
daylight savings in the United States. See   for more information
about scheduling methodology and schedule milestone definitions

 jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Tue Oct 14 07:11:55 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:11:55 +0200
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>	<1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
	<6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F4463B.5090201@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Jerry Amundson wrote:
> However even with ATI cards, Plymouth sometimes does the progress bar,
> sometimes the pretty infinity thing. Depends maybe on KMS or boot
> params.

If I boot with "nomodeset" then I get the progress bar. If I leave that 
out and boot with the default settings then I get the graphical boot. 
For a final touch it would be nice if the blinking cursor at the top 
left that appears for the first second or two would not be there.

Regards,
Patrick



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 14 07:54:09 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:24:09 +0530
Subject: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810140001s342ed851y283aeb0f6e81780b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d06ce20810140001s342ed851y283aeb0f6e81780b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F45021.9030407@fedoraproject.org>

Jerry Amundson wrote:
> See... what?
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule
> Historically Test and General Availability releases happen at 10:00am
> Eastern US Time, which is either 1500UTC or 1400UTC depending on
> daylight savings in the United States. See   for more information
> about scheduling methodology and schedule milestone definitions

Link fixed. This seems to have a left over issue when migrating from 
moinmoin to mediawiki. FYI, it is easy enough to sign up for a Fedora 
account within a few minutes and get edit access to the wiki. I 
recommend doing that.

Rahul



From johannbg at hi.is  Tue Oct 14 08:09:22 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:09:22 +0000
Subject: Testers - Reports against PulseAudio ( PA )
Message-ID: <48F453B2.1040404@hi.is>

When we held the test day on 9.Okt, we put together bunch of tips
related to PA ( see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-09 )

Pay very good attention to the bug report section
if followed it will avoid bugs being set to NEEDINFO status.
*
*These are the highlights...
*
General Debugging tips.

Start by adding your user to the pulse-rt group. *

/su -c '/usr/sbin/usermod -a -G pulse-rt <username>'/

*You will need to logout and in again for it to take effect! *

*Then kill PA. *

/pulseaudio -k/

*You do this as a regular user not root!*

*Start pulseaudio verbose mode *

/pulseaudio -vvvv/

*Ensure the volume is up and unmuted using either:*
/
alsamixer

pavucontrol
//
alsamixer -c0 (to bypass PA) /
*
Check if there are any */$HOME/.asoundrc*/*' files present that might be 
customizing your sound preferences?*

*Check if there are any sound-related messages present in 
*/var/log/messages* or */dmesg /*

When filing the bug report....*

*Include the */URL/* generated by *

/http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh 
/
/
su -c 'smoltSendProfile -a'/

*Include output of.. *
/
aplay -L/

/pulseaudio -vvvv /

"ls" *inside of* "/pacmd/"
*
If you found CPU load related issues, please include oprofile dumps in 
your bug report. *
/See the cheat sheet: http://oprofile.sourceforge.net/docs//
*
For crashes include a full backtrace. *

JBG

Ps.
      There will be another test day held on the 16th where we will be 
focusing our testing
      effort against Better lirc support and Security Audit. 
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From johannbg at hi.is  Tue Oct 14 08:12:48 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:12:48 +0000
Subject: Shutdown entry missing from GNOME System menu
In-Reply-To: <1223960504.5058.1.camel@cambridge-laptop>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
	<gd06rv$seu$1@ger.gmane.org>	<d6e6dfeb0810131247r47c89733p2173085967cc138a@mail.gmail.com>	<67437bc40810131359p13e1958ega2bdc95c9a82894f@mail.gmail.com>	<1223960314.4399.2.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223960504.5058.1.camel@cambridge-laptop>
Message-ID: <48F45480.5000401@hi.is>

Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> Quick update ... apparently open alacarte makes it reappear.  strange.
> is this known?
> chris
>
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 23:58 -0500, Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
>   
>> After a recent yum update, the Shutdown entry is missing from the System
>> menu.  The strangest thing is that it's not always missing.  Most of the
>> times it's missing but not always.  What could be causing this?
>>     
>
>   
Add your comments on this one..

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466456


JBG
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From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Tue Oct 14 08:28:11 2008
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:28:11 +0200
Subject: Testers - Reports against PulseAudio ( PA )
In-Reply-To: <48F453B2.1040404@hi.is>
References: <48F453B2.1040404@hi.is>
Message-ID: <20081014102811.87062da7.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:09:22 +0000, J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:

> *Then kill PA. *
> 
> /pulseaudio -k/
> 
> *You do this as a regular user not root!*
> 
> *Start pulseaudio verbose mode *
> 
> /pulseaudio -vvvv/
> 
> *Ensure the volume is up and unmuted using either:*
> /
> alsamixer
> 
> pavucontrol
> //
> alsamixer -c0 (to bypass PA) /
> *
> Check if there are any */$HOME/.asoundrc*/*' files present that might be 
> customizing your sound preferences?*

A request: Could you please format your messages like everyone else does?
Your usage of '*' and '/' characters in so many places is strange and
decreases the readability a lot, IMO. Perhaps you use them as some form of
meta-characters for "bold", "italic" and similar styles, but it doesn't
make much sense in plain-text email.



From johannbg at hi.is  Tue Oct 14 08:32:45 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:32:45 +0000
Subject: Testers - Reports against PulseAudio ( PA )
In-Reply-To: <20081014102811.87062da7.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
References: <48F453B2.1040404@hi.is>
	<20081014102811.87062da7.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <48F4592D.4080108@hi.is>

Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:09:22 +0000, J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
>
>   
>> *Then kill PA. *
>>
>> /pulseaudio -k/
>>
>> *You do this as a regular user not root!*
>>
>> *Start pulseaudio verbose mode *
>>
>> /pulseaudio -vvvv/
>>
>> *Ensure the volume is up and unmuted using either:*
>> /
>> alsamixer
>>
>> pavucontrol
>> //
>> alsamixer -c0 (to bypass PA) /
>> *
>> Check if there are any */$HOME/.asoundrc*/*' files present that might be 
>> customizing your sound preferences?*
>>     
>
> A request: Could you please format your messages like everyone else does?
> Your usage of '*' and '/' characters in so many places is strange and
> decreases the readability a lot, IMO. Perhaps you use them as some form of
> meta-characters for "bold", "italic" and similar styles, but it doesn't
> make much sense in plain-text email.
>
>   
Ups sorry about that...

Johann "Needs coffee to properly wake up" Gudmundsson

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From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 08:48:40 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:48:40 +0200
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
Message-ID: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I installed Fedora 10 beta on HP tx1000 and everything worked out of
the box except wireless because it is broacom :( I fixed that with
loading broadcom firmware.

This is my first Nvidia laptop that I have worked on in last few years
(all I have worked on have Intel video chips) so I'm not sure what to
expect from Nvidia proprietary drivers (and sorry for posting about
non open source stuff here).

I installed latest kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-development repo but
after reboot I don't get to the GDM :(

I looked at Xorg.0.log and it says that it can't initialise display...

Is there something broken in Nvidia drivers so that they aren't
supossed to work on Fedora 10 beta or do the Nvidia proprietary
drivers work for others but not only for me?

Cheers,
Valent.

-- 
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linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless
registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org.
ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic



From johannbg at hi.is  Tue Oct 14 09:11:53 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:11:53 +0000
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F46259.7030908@hi.is>

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> I installed Fedora 10 beta on HP tx1000 and everything worked out of
> the box except wireless because it is broacom :( I fixed that with
> loading broadcom firmware.
>
> This is my first Nvidia laptop that I have worked on in last few years
> (all I have worked on have Intel video chips) so I'm not sure what to
> expect from Nvidia proprietary drivers (and sorry for posting about
> non open source stuff here).
>
>   
Nothing to be sorry about just dont expect any help/answers about
the proprietary drivers.
> I installed latest kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-development repo but
> after reboot I don't get to the GDM :(
>   
File a bug report at NVIDIA or post at their forum etc..
> I looked at Xorg.0.log and it says that it can't initialise display...
>
> Is there something broken in Nvidia drivers so that they aren't
> supossed to work on Fedora 10 beta or do the Nvidia proprietary
> drivers work for others but not only for me?
>   
Only Nvidia can answer that or help you fix it if it's broken.

Not sure on how many testers are using/testing the nvidia drivers

I personally prefer and use the nv driver on my laptop that has
F10 installed and it works.

Do you have any issue using the nv driver?

JBG
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From denis at poolshark.org  Tue Oct 14 09:22:54 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:22:54 +0200
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F464EE.8@poolshark.org>

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> I installed Fedora 10 beta on HP tx1000 and everything worked out of
> the box except wireless because it is broacom :( I fixed that with
> loading broadcom firmware.
> 
> This is my first Nvidia laptop that I have worked on in last few years
> (all I have worked on have Intel video chips) so I'm not sure what to
> expect from Nvidia proprietary drivers (and sorry for posting about
> non open source stuff here).
> 
> I installed latest kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-development repo but
> after reboot I don't get to the GDM :(

The 6100 is not yet supported for Linux:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57791



From spowd at bigpond.com  Tue Oct 14 09:27:51 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (Greg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:27:51 +1100
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F46617.1040602@bigpond.com>

On 14/10/2008 7:48 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> I installed Fedora 10 beta on HP tx1000 and everything worked out of
> the box except wireless because it is broacom :( I fixed that with
> loading broadcom firmware.
>
> This is my first Nvidia laptop that I have worked on in last few years
> (all I have worked on have Intel video chips) so I'm not sure what to
> expect from Nvidia proprietary drivers (and sorry for posting about
> non open source stuff here).
>
> I installed latest kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-development repo but
> after reboot I don't get to the GDM :(
>
> I looked at Xorg.0.log and it says that it can't initialise display...
>
> Is there something broken in Nvidia drivers so that they aren't
> supossed to work on Fedora 10 beta or do the Nvidia proprietary
> drivers work for others but not only for me?
>
> Cheers,
> Valent.
>
>    
what kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-dev are you using? ....you should 
try the Nvidia 177.80 driver



From spowd at bigpond.com  Tue Oct 14 09:29:47 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (Greg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:29:47 +1100
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F4668B.2060105@bigpond.com>

On 14/10/2008 7:48 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> I installed Fedora 10 beta on HP tx1000 and everything worked out of
> the box except wireless because it is broacom :( I fixed that with
> loading broadcom firmware.
>
> This is my first Nvidia laptop that I have worked on in last few years
> (all I have worked on have Intel video chips) so I'm not sure what to
> expect from Nvidia proprietary drivers (and sorry for posting about
> non open source stuff here).
>
> I installed latest kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-development repo but
> after reboot I don't get to the GDM :(
>
> I looked at Xorg.0.log and it says that it can't initialise display...
>
> Is there something broken in Nvidia drivers so that they aren't
> supossed to work on Fedora 10 beta or do the Nvidia proprietary
> drivers work for others but not only for me?
>
> Cheers,
> Valent.
>
>    
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=196182 try this driver



From spowd at bigpond.com  Tue Oct 14 09:34:04 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (Greg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:34:04 +1100
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F4678C.80203@bigpond.com>

On 14/10/2008 7:48 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> I installed Fedora 10 beta on HP tx1000 and everything worked out of
> the box except wireless because it is broacom :( I fixed that with
> loading broadcom firmware.
>
> This is my first Nvidia laptop that I have worked on in last few years
> (all I have worked on have Intel video chips) so I'm not sure what to
> expect from Nvidia proprietary drivers (and sorry for posting about
> non open source stuff here).
>
> I installed latest kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-development repo but
> after reboot I don't get to the GDM :(
>
> I looked at Xorg.0.log and it says that it can't initialise display...
>
> Is there something broken in Nvidia drivers so that they aren't
> supossed to work on Fedora 10 beta or do the Nvidia proprietary
> drivers work for others but not only for me?
>
> Cheers,
> Valent.
>
>    
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.07/README/appendix-a.html



From luya at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 14 09:45:57 2008
From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:45:57 -0400
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop> <48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>
	<1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
	<6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223977557.48f46a55a1fbe@ssl.mecca.ca>

Quoting Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:
> > I have an nvidia chipset, and I see the same thing the OP mentioned.  So
> > this isn't what is shown with ATI Cards/chipsets?  If not, what do
> > *they* see? Is there a screen shot out there somewhere of what *should*
> > be shown?
>
> There is a FIXME on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterStartup
> [I can throw something up there when I sort out my FAS login...]
>
> However even with ATI cards, Plymouth sometimes does the progress bar,
> sometimes the pretty infinity thing. Depends maybe on KMS or boot


Same thing happens on Nvidia cards that supoosely does not have KMS.
-- 
Luya Tshimbalanga
Fedora Project contributor



From johannbg at hi.is  Tue Oct 14 09:56:17 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:56:17 +0000
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1223977557.48f46a55a1fbe@ssl.mecca.ca>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>	<1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>	<6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223977557.48f46a55a1fbe@ssl.mecca.ca>
Message-ID: <48F46CC1.7090107@hi.is>

Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> Quoting Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>:
>
>   
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:
>>     
>>> I have an nvidia chipset, and I see the same thing the OP mentioned.  So
>>> this isn't what is shown with ATI Cards/chipsets?  If not, what do
>>> *they* see? Is there a screen shot out there somewhere of what *should*
>>> be shown?
>>>       
>> There is a FIXME on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterStartup
>> [I can throw something up there when I sort out my FAS login...]
>>
>> However even with ATI cards, Plymouth sometimes does the progress bar,
>> sometimes the pretty infinity thing. Depends maybe on KMS or boot
>>     
>
>
> Same thing happens on Nvidia cards that supoosely does not have KMS.
>   
The cards that do not support kms get the progress bars other get this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jSh1ZOaNYs

Note This is what most ATI card owners are supposed to get.
( If not file a bug report )

Intel and Nvidia and other unsupported graphic cards owner will get the 
"progress bar"
since KMS is disabled for those cards..

The final artwork will be different than the one on the youtube video 
though.

JBG
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 14 10:24:21 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:24:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081014 changes
Message-ID: <20081014102421.4C88B1B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue Oct 14 06:01:09 UTC 2008

New package itext
        A Free Java-PDF library
New package ocspd
        OpenCA OCSP Daemon
New package pam_kcoda
        A Pluggable Authentication Module for coda using krb5 authentication
New package python-cssutils
        CSS Cascading Style Sheets library for Python
New package python-webtest
        Helper to test WSGI applications
New package starlab
        A Software Environment for Collisional Stellar Dynamics
Updated Packages:

PackageKit-0.3.7-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.7-1
- New upstream version
- Add dynamic groups functionality to the API
- Many performance and other bugfixes


Pound-2.4.3-1.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Ruben Kerkhof <ruben at rubenkerkhof.com> 2.4.3-1
- Upstream released new version


audacious-1.5.1-4.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Ertzinger <ralf at skytale.net> 1.5.1-4
- Remove lingering references to libSAD from the installed
  headers


blobAndConquer-1.0-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 1.0-1
- New upstream release 1.0


bluez-4.13-2.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.13-2
- Fix PS3 BD remote input event generation


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.1.svn1351_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1351


coreutils-6.12-15.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> - 6.12-15
- fix several date issues(e.g. countable dayshifts, ignoring
  some cases of relative offset, locales conversions...)
- clarify ls exit statuses documentation (#446294)


e2fsprogs-1.41.3-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com> 1.41.3-2
- New upstream version (very minor fixes, ext4-related)


eclipse-subclipse-1.2.4-12.fc10
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> - 1.2.4-12
- Bump revision.

* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> - 1.2.4-11
- Fix build with eclipse 3.4.
- Rediff plugin-classpath.patch.

* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 1.2.4-10
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


fio-1.22-1.fc10
---------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com> 1.22-1
- New upstream version, several bugs fixed.


ghc-6.8.3-7.fc10
----------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 6.8.3-7.fc10
- add selinux file context for unconfined_execmem following darcs package


gnome-lirc-properties-0.2.8-6.fc10
----------------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.2.8-6
- Fix compilation

* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.2.8-5
- Add PS3 remote controls support


gnome-packagekit-0.3.7-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.7-1
- New upstream version
- Much better log viewer functionality
- New service pack creator tool


hal-0.5.12-3.20081013git.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-3.20081013git
- Update to git snapshot 20081013git


hal-info-20081013-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 20081013-1
- Update to latest upstream release


happy-1.17-3.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 1.17-3
- add selinux unconfined_execmem_exec_t file context


hddtemp-0.3-0.16.beta15.fc9
---------------------------
* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.3-0.16.beta15
- Sync with Debian's 0.3-beta15-45 for a fix for undesired spin-ups with
  most current drives (#464912).


ibus-m17n-0.1.1.20081013-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081013-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081013.


im-chooser-1.2.4-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 1.2.4-1
- New upstream release.


imsettings-0.105.0-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 0.105.0-1
- New upstream release.
  - Have a workaround for the race condition issue. (#452849)
  - Fix a freeze issue with ibus. (#465431)
  - Fix a freeze issue on Desktops not supporting XSETTINGS.


iscsi-initiator-utils-6.2.0.870-0.1.rc1.fc10
--------------------------------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 6.2.0.870-0.1.rc1
- Rewrite SysV initscripts, fixes rh 441290, 246960, 282001, 436175, 430791
- Add patch to make iscsiadm complain and exit when run as user instead
  of hang spinning for the database lock
- Add patch to make iscsiadm start iscsid when needed (rh 436175 related)
- Don't start iscsi service when network not yet up (in case of using NM)
  add NM dispatcher script to start iscsi service once network is up


jd-2.0.3-0.1.svn2389_trunk.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 2389


joda-time-1.5.2-9.tzdata2008g.fc10
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Conrad Meyer <konrad at tylerc.org> - 1.5.2-7.tzdata2008g
- New tzdata (2008g).


jwhois-4.0-8.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Vitezslav Crhonek <vcrhonek at redhat.com> - 4.0-8
- Update to latest upstream config
  Resolves: #463972


kdelibs-4.1.2-4.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 4.1.2-4
- backport patch to fix crash kded startup crash


latexmk-4.01-1.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Jerry James <loganjerry at gmail.com> - 4.01-1
- New version 4.01.


libgxim-0.3.0-1.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 0.3.0-1
- New upstream release.
  - Have a workaround to avoid the race condition issue. (#452849)
  - Fix a freeze issue with ibus. (#465431)


libprelude-0.9.21.2-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> - 0.9.21.2-1
- New upstream bugfix release


libv4l-0.5.1-1.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl> 0.5.1-1
- New upstream release 0.5.1


libxcb-1.1.91-4.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.1.91-4
- libxcb-1.1-abstract-socket.patch: Drop.
- libxcb-1.1.91-git.patch: Update to git master.

* Wed Sep 17 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.1.91-3
- libxcb-1.1-xreply-leak.patch: Plug a memory leak in _XReply when the
  caller has a non-fatal error handler. (mclasen, fdo #17616)


lighttpd-1.4.20-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Saou <http://freshrpms.net/> 1.4.20-1
- Update to 1.4.20 final.


m2crypto-0.19.1-1
-----------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Miloslav Trma?? <mitr at redhat.com> - 0.19.1-1
- Update to m2crypto-0.19.1


merkaartor-0.12-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Sven Lankes <sven at lank.es> - 0.12-1
- new upstream release
- enable geotagging support (requires exiv2)
- remove -fixes patch


mesa-7.2-0.8.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 7.2-0.8
- r300-bufmgr.patch - fix sw fallbacks + kernel texture error.


module-init-tools-3.5-3.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Jon Masters <jcm at redhat.com> - 3.5-3
- Remove silly noescape patch we've had forever.
- Nobody knows why any more.

* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Jon Masters <jcm at redhat.com> - 3.5
- Rebase to latest upstream release.
- NOTE: This release adds binary module indexes.


nedit-5.5-20.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at redhat.com> 5.5-20
- BR: xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1 to avoid incorrect font
  substitutions (#464945)


netatalk-2.0.3-21.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Jiri Skala <jskala at redhat.com> - 4:2.0.3-21
- fix #465050 - FTBFS netatalk-2.0.3-19 - regenerated patches

* Mon Aug 11 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 4:2.0.3-20
- fix license tag


netbeans-6.1-8.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Victor G. Vasilyev <victor.vasilyev at sun.com> 6.1-8
- Update center - NetBeans is disabled, update center - NetBeans for Fedora is added (#466179)
- Some cosmetics


openais-0.91-2.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> 0.91-2
- remove ExclusiveArch line


openldap-2.4.11-3.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Jan Safranek <jsafranek at redhat.com> 2.4.11-3
- add SLAPD_SHUTDOWN_TIMEOUT to /etc/sysconfig/ldap, allowing admins
  to set non-default slapd shutdown timeout
- add checkpoint to default slapd.conf file (#458679)


openswan-2.6.18-2.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Avesh Agarwal <avagarwa at redhat.com> - 2.6.18-2
- Addressed some issues related to buzilla 447419
- Added xmlto and bind-devel to BuildRequires 
- Removed the patch openswan-2.6-noxmlto.patch
- Removed the command "rm -rf programs/readwriteconf" from the spec file
  as readwriteconf is used with "make check" for debugging purposes.
- Removed USE_LWRES=false from the spec file as it has been 
  obsolete in upstream (using bind-devel instead)


perl-IO-Socket-SSL-1.17-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> - 1.17-1
- Update to latest upstream version: 1.17


perl-QWizard-3.15-1.fc9
-----------------------
* Wed Sep 17 18:00:00 2008 Wes Hardaker <wjhns174 at hardakers.net> - 3.15-1
- Update to latest upstream bug fixes


perl-libwww-perl-5.817-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 10 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Ma??l????ov?? <mmaslano at redhat.com> 5.817-1
- update to 5.817


php-Smarty-2.6.20-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 2.6.20-1
- Upstream sync


php-pear-Net-UserAgent-Detect-2.5.0-1.fc10
------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 2.5.0-1
- Upstream sync


pitivi-0.11.1.4-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 0.11.1.4-1
- Update to 0.11.1.4


planner-0.14.3-5.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Caol??n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.14.3-5
- Resolves: rhbz#466615 back-port html improvements


pm-utils-1.2.2.1-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 1.2.2.1-1
- Update to 1.2.2.1
- Supports automatically pulling quirks from HAL and has the ability to save
  the last working set of quirks to an .fdi file.


rawstudio-1.1.1-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Gianluca Sforna <giallu gmail com> - 1.1.1-1
- new upstream release


rhpl-0.217-1
------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> 0.217-1
- Don't set XKB model (ajax, #461832).
- Don't use the deprecated gtk.mainiteration function (#432115).
- Use $(MAKE), not make (#458455).
- Use the Save stock button instead of Open (#432345).


rubygem-hoe-1.8.0-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 1.8.0-1
- Release 1.8.0 of the gem.


scribus-1.3.5-0.5.12516svn.fc10
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Dan Hor??k <dan[AT]danny.cz> 1.3.5-0.5.12516svn
- install global desktop file instead of KDE-only one (#461124)
- little cleanup


solar-backgrounds-0.0.2-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Martin Sourada <mso at fedoraproject.org> - 0.0.2-1
- New release, adds 5:4 wallpapers


subversion-1.5.3-3
------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 1.5.3-3
- fix build

* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 1.5.3-2
- update to 1.5.3 (#466674)
- update psvn.el to r33557


system-config-printer-1.0.8-3.fc10
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1.0.8-3
- Added patch for 1.0.x changes since 1.0.8:
  - Don't use a LinkButton for the 'Problems?' button (bug #465407).
  - Don't use a separator for the server settings dialog (bug
      - Don't set non-zero page size for SpinButtons.
  - Don't show an error dialog if an IPP operation's authentication
    dialog is cancelled by the user, but show an error dialog if the
    password was incorrect (bug #465407).
  - Set Server Settings... menu entry sensitive depending on whether
    we are connected to a server (Ubuntu #280736).
  - Lots of translations updated.


tomcat6-6.0.18-6.2.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:6.0.18-6.2
- use Fedora-specific changes to force java 1.6.0

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:6.0.18-6.1
- use lsb_release instead of lsb-release to get the distributor

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:6.0.18-5
- fix initscript messages on Mandriva Linux
- fix help message in initscript

* Wed Oct  1 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:6.0.18-4
- redefine %_initrddir for FHS-compliance
- make initscript LSB-complaint

* Fri Sep 26 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:6.0.18-3
- fix status in initscript

* Thu Sep 25 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:6.0.18-2
- remove initscripts and /sbin/service requirement
- call initscript directly without using /sbin/service
- require /sbin/chkconfig instead of chkconfig
- remove chkconfig requirement from packages that don't require it


tuxcmd-0.6.50-3.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com> 0.6.50-3
- Connection Manager: Fix restoring last used item


tzdata-2008h-1.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Petr Machata <pmachata at redhat.com> - 2008h-1
- Upstream 2008h
  - Fix exact DST transition hour for Mauritius
  - Syria will leave the period of DST on Nov 1
  - Fix coordinates of Pacific/Niue


ucview-0.22-1.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.22-1
- Upgrade to 0.22

* Sun Jul 27 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.21-1
- Upgrade to 0.21


unicap-0.9.3-1.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.9.3-1
- Upgrade to 0.9.3 (#466825, thanks to Hans de Goede)
- Enabled libv4l support for the new gspca kernel driver


wklej-0.1.4-1.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Rafa?? Psota <rafalzaq at gmail.com> - 0.1.4-1
- update to 0.1.4


wpa_supplicant-0.6.4-2.fc10
---------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> - 1:0.6.4-2
- Handle encryption keys correctly when switching 802.11 modes (rh #459399)
- Better scanning behavior on resume from suspend/hibernate
- Better interaction with newer kernels and drivers


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-26.fc10
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-26
- radeon-modeset.patch - fix nexuiz mode switch - remove unused reuse code


xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.4.2-10.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.4.2-10
- rebase to latest upstream master


Summary:
Added Packages: 6
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 65
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-prioritized-methods-0.2.1-1.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2562
	python-turbojson-1.2.1-2.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2555
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-prioritized-methods-0.2.1-1.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2562
	python-turbojson-1.2.1-2.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2555
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-prioritized-methods-0.2.1-1.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2562
	python-turbojson-1.2.1-2.fc10.noarch requires python-peak-rules >= 0:0.5a1.dev-0.2555
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
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	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From denis at poolshark.org  Tue Oct 14 10:57:47 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:57:47 +0200
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <48F464EE.8@poolshark.org>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F464EE.8@poolshark.org>
Message-ID: <48F47B2B.3000408@poolshark.org>

Denis Leroy wrote:
> Valent Turkovic wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I installed Fedora 10 beta on HP tx1000 and everything worked out of
>> the box except wireless because it is broacom :( I fixed that with
>> loading broadcom firmware.
>>
>> This is my first Nvidia laptop that I have worked on in last few years
>> (all I have worked on have Intel video chips) so I'm not sure what to
>> expect from Nvidia proprietary drivers (and sorry for posting about
>> non open source stuff here).
>>
>> I installed latest kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-development repo but
>> after reboot I don't get to the GDM :(
> 
> The 6100 is not yet supported for Linux:
> 
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57791

Oh boy, that was a really old article. I'm sorry.

I think rather you need the legacy 96xx driver, which is packaged by Livna.



From john5342 at googlemail.com  Tue Oct 14 11:28:50 2008
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:28:50 +0100
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <48F47B2B.3000408@poolshark.org>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F464EE.8@poolshark.org> <48F47B2B.3000408@poolshark.org>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0810140428u1e228c7bsefd1f384cfcb9ec0@mail.gmail.com>

>I think rather you need the legacy 96xx driver, which is packaged by Livna.
Actually if we are still talking about the 6100 it is supported by the
standard driver. No need for the legacy driver.

2008/10/14 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org>

> Denis Leroy wrote:
>
>> Valent Turkovic wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I installed Fedora 10 beta on HP tx1000 and everything worked out of
>>> the box except wireless because it is broacom :( I fixed that with
>>> loading broadcom firmware.
>>>
>>> This is my first Nvidia laptop that I have worked on in last few years
>>> (all I have worked on have Intel video chips) so I'm not sure what to
>>> expect from Nvidia proprietary drivers (and sorry for posting about
>>> non open source stuff here).
>>>
>>> I installed latest kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-development repo but
>>> after reboot I don't get to the GDM :(
>>>
>>
>> The 6100 is not yet supported for Linux:
>>
>> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57791
>>
>
> Oh boy, that was a really old article. I'm sorry.
>
> I think rather you need the legacy 96xx driver, which is packaged by Livna.
>
>
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From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 12:39:31 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:39:31 -0400
Subject: Testers - Reports against PulseAudio ( PA )
In-Reply-To: <20081014102811.87062da7.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
References: <48F453B2.1040404@hi.is>
	<20081014102811.87062da7.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <1223987971.3206.1.camel@flatline>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 10:28 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:09:22 +0000, J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> 
> > *Then kill PA. *
> > 
> > /pulseaudio -k/
> > 
> > *You do this as a regular user not root!*
> > 
> > *Start pulseaudio verbose mode *
> > 
> > /pulseaudio -vvvv/
> > 
> > *Ensure the volume is up and unmuted using either:*
> > /
> > alsamixer
> > 
> > pavucontrol
> > //
> > alsamixer -c0 (to bypass PA) /
> > *
> > Check if there are any */$HOME/.asoundrc*/*' files present that might be 
> > customizing your sound preferences?*
> 
> A request: Could you please format your messages like everyone else does?
> Your usage of '*' and '/' characters in so many places is strange and
> decreases the readability a lot, IMO. Perhaps you use them as some form of
> meta-characters for "bold", "italic" and similar styles, but it doesn't
> make much sense in plain-text email.

Thanks for the feedback ... a wiki formatted version of the test plan
can be found at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-09#How_to_test.3F.

Please take a moment to review the plan and please add your sound card
information.

Thanks,
James

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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 14 12:57:48 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:57:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: how to restart network with NetworkManager controlled wired
	connection
Message-ID: <746375.56117.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers,

If I want to stop students from accessing the internet at school with one of the testing machines, I use

# service network stop

and the network stops and will not connect to internet anymore.  Restarting fixes it back.  However if I do not want to restart, I try

# service network start/restart

I won't get the connection back.  How do I get the connection back if NetworkManager is running and I previously stopped it.  I just want to know if it is possible.  

TIA,

Antonio 


      



From jweiss at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 13:04:51 2008
From: jweiss at redhat.com (Jeff Weiss)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:04:51 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com>

Michael Solberg wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm sure someone's thought of this before, but I keep running into this
> issue on the LiveUSB on the XO.
> 
> The issue is that /var/cache/yum is mounted as tmpfs on the Live image.
> When I log into a desktop session that already knows my wireless key,
> the updates applet attempts to download all the packages from Rawhide.
> This fills the 256MB of RAM pretty quickly and that hangs the machine.
> Does it make sense to turn that applet off in this case?  Or maybe not
> mount /var/cache/yum as tmpfs when there's an overlay?
> 
> Michael.
> 
> 

This is two separate issues isn't it?  Doesn't /var/cache/yum get
written to whether you use the applet or yum on the command line?

My understanding of the overlay was that once you write something to it,
that space is gone forever, even if you delete those files.  So having
cache as part of the overlay will just make it fill up quicker.  And
aren't yum cache hits pretty unlikely?  Wouldn't it just be when someone
re-installs something they've uninstalled?  I would have thought tmpfs
is the way to go here - when end users run yum, it's better to
re-download than to use up the overlay - once that's gone, you're hosed.

Jeff Weiss



From jweiss at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 13:13:09 2008
From: jweiss at redhat.com (Jeff Weiss)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:13:09 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F49AE5.3010301@redhat.com>

Jeff Weiss wrote:
> Michael Solberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm sure someone's thought of this before, but I keep running into this
>> issue on the LiveUSB on the XO.
>>
>> The issue is that /var/cache/yum is mounted as tmpfs on the Live image.
>> When I log into a desktop session that already knows my wireless key,
>> the updates applet attempts to download all the packages from Rawhide.
>> This fills the 256MB of RAM pretty quickly and that hangs the machine.
>> Does it make sense to turn that applet off in this case?  Or maybe not
>> mount /var/cache/yum as tmpfs when there's an overlay?
>>
>> Michael.
>>
>>
> 
> This is two separate issues isn't it?  Doesn't /var/cache/yum get
> written to whether you use the applet or yum on the command line?
> 
> My understanding of the overlay was that once you write something to it,
> that space is gone forever, even if you delete those files.  So having
> cache as part of the overlay will just make it fill up quicker.  And
> aren't yum cache hits pretty unlikely?  Wouldn't it just be when someone
> re-installs something they've uninstalled?  I would have thought tmpfs
> is the way to go here - when end users run yum, it's better to
> re-download than to use up the overlay - once that's gone, you're hosed.
> 
> Jeff Weiss
> 

Er, on second thought there's really not much sense in eating up swap
space.  Maybe we should just turn off the cache (keepcache=0) ?

I suspect that means it'll always have to download headers, but
bandwidth is more plentiful than memory on the XO :)



From cra at WPI.EDU  Tue Oct 14 13:15:59 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:15:59 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081014131559.GB27052@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:58:44PM -0400, Michael Solberg wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm sure someone's thought of this before, but I keep running into this
> issue on the LiveUSB on the XO.
> 
> The issue is that /var/cache/yum is mounted as tmpfs on the Live image.
> When I log into a desktop session that already knows my wireless key,
> the updates applet attempts to download all the packages from Rawhide.
> This fills the 256MB of RAM pretty quickly and that hangs the machine.
> Does it make sense to turn that applet off in this case?  Or maybe not
> mount /var/cache/yum as tmpfs when there's an overlay?

I can easily fill the overlay and crash the LiveOS with ext3 errors.  
Has any thought been put into how to solve this problem?



From msolberg at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 13:18:55 2008
From: msolberg at redhat.com (Michael Solberg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:18:55 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <48F49AE5.3010301@redhat.com>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com>  <48F49AE5.3010301@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223990335.5615.43.camel@localhost.localdomain>


On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:13 -0400, Jeff Weiss wrote:
> Er, on second thought there's really not much sense in eating up swap
> space.  Maybe we should just turn off the cache (keepcache=0) ?

This is definitely the best solution.

> I suspect that means it'll always have to download headers, but
> bandwidth is more plentiful than memory on the XO :)

It's true - I do wonder though, is it really feasible to try to do
updates on an XO?  Six months from now running updates will eat at least
512MB, either blowing out the overlay or the RAM.  This will require the
user to re-burn the card.  Maybe we need a different way to do updates.

Michael.




From cra at WPI.EDU  Tue Oct 14 13:24:00 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:24:00 -0400
Subject: how to restart network with NetworkManager controlled wired
	connection
In-Reply-To: <746375.56117.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <746375.56117.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20081014132400.GC27052@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 05:57:48AM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> I won't get the connection back.  How do I get the connection back 
> if NetworkManager is running and I previously stopped it.  I just 
> want to know if it is possible.

Probably use this service instead of "network":

Stop:

service NetworkManager stop

Start:

service NetworkManager start



From linux at elfshadow.net  Tue Oct 14 13:25:03 2008
From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:25:03 -0400
Subject: XO: wireless network and getting a devkey
In-Reply-To: <1223582737.3540.8.camel@Q>
References: <2e084c470810090511t2d6455b5u662cc0fa54e38807@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810091314150.7587@localhost.localdomain>
	<2e084c470810091127m8e38f83hf2f604cf5d087784@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223582737.3540.8.camel@Q>
Message-ID: <10e0a9b00810140625r23b5e3a3s80dc54d0527a5007@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Adam D. Ligas <adam at physco.com> wrote:
> I'm on WPA2 at home - should I expect trouble with the wireless?  It
> would be a pain to change/re-key everything wireless in the house.

I upgraded to the 767 image last night and lost access to my wireless.
 I copied the manual script mentioned here towards the bottom of the
page:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/WPA_Manual_Setting

to a USB key and then ran it from the XO.  It took 30 to 60 seconds
after running the script but I was then connected to my wireless
access point and able to run the software update.  Seems to be working
fine now.

FWIW, the WAP I connect to is a WRT54GL running dd-wrt using WPA2.

~Jeffrey



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 13:25:57 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:25:57 +0200
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <48F46259.7030908@hi.is>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F46259.7030908@hi.is>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810140625p6dce8e85rec1658217038c473@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/14 "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" <johannbg at hi.is>:
> Valent Turkovic wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I installed Fedora 10 beta on HP tx1000 and everything worked out of
>> the box except wireless because it is broacom :( I fixed that with
>> loading broadcom firmware.
>>
>> This is my first Nvidia laptop that I have worked on in last few years
>> (all I have worked on have Intel video chips) so I'm not sure what to
>> expect from Nvidia proprietary drivers (and sorry for posting about
>> non open source stuff here).
>>
>>
>
> Nothing to be sorry about just dont expect any help/answers about
> the proprietary drivers.

ok, thanks. I only hoped that somebody has the experience with Nvidia
because I lack it, as I said, so I don't know what to expect.

>>
>> I installed latest kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-development repo but
>> after reboot I don't get to the GDM :(
>>
>
> File a bug report at NVIDIA or post at their forum etc..

I posted here first becase I felt that it could be a bit early for
that, I would like to be sure, then I will post a bug, not a problem.

>>
>> I looked at Xorg.0.log and it says that it can't initialise display...
>>
>> Is there something broken in Nvidia drivers so that they aren't
>> supossed to work on Fedora 10 beta or do the Nvidia proprietary
>> drivers work for others but not only for me?
>>
>
> Only Nvidia can answer that or help you fix it if it's broken.
>
> Not sure on how many testers are using/testing the nvidia drivers
>
> I personally prefer and use the nv driver on my laptop that has
> F10 installed and it works.
>
> Do you have any issue using the nv driver?

I tried enabling "Desktop effects" and that only brings a white screen :(

I heard from my other friends with Nvidia on ubuntu how compiz works
perfectly only on Nvidia...

Cheers,
Valent.

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From jweiss at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 13:29:18 2008
From: jweiss at redhat.com (Jeff Weiss)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:29:18 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <1223990335.5615.43.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com>
	<48F49AE5.3010301@redhat.com>
	<1223990335.5615.43.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F49EAE.8030608@redhat.com>

Michael Solberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:13 -0400, Jeff Weiss wrote:
>> Er, on second thought there's really not much sense in eating up swap
>> space.  Maybe we should just turn off the cache (keepcache=0) ?
> 
> This is definitely the best solution.
> 
>> I suspect that means it'll always have to download headers, but
>> bandwidth is more plentiful than memory on the XO :)
> 
> It's true - I do wonder though, is it really feasible to try to do
> updates on an XO?  Six months from now running updates will eat at least
> 512MB, either blowing out the overlay or the RAM.  This will require the
> user to re-burn the card.  Maybe we need a different way to do updates.
> 
> Michael.
> 
> 

This is why I was really surprised when I heard we were shipping Live
images.  I would think an installed image with say, 1.7gb of filesystems
and 256mb swap would have been the way to go.




From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 14 13:30:06 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:30:06 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <48F49AE5.3010301@redhat.com>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com>  <48F49AE5.3010301@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223991006.16857.101.camel@rosebud>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:13 -0400, Jeff Weiss wrote:
> Jeff Weiss wrote:
> > Michael Solberg wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I'm sure someone's thought of this before, but I keep running into this
> >> issue on the LiveUSB on the XO.
> >>
> >> The issue is that /var/cache/yum is mounted as tmpfs on the Live image.
> >> When I log into a desktop session that already knows my wireless key,
> >> the updates applet attempts to download all the packages from Rawhide.
> >> This fills the 256MB of RAM pretty quickly and that hangs the machine.
> >> Does it make sense to turn that applet off in this case?  Or maybe not
> >> mount /var/cache/yum as tmpfs when there's an overlay?
> >>
> >> Michael.
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > This is two separate issues isn't it?  Doesn't /var/cache/yum get
> > written to whether you use the applet or yum on the command line?
> > 
> > My understanding of the overlay was that once you write something to it,
> > that space is gone forever, even if you delete those files.  So having
> > cache as part of the overlay will just make it fill up quicker.  And
> > aren't yum cache hits pretty unlikely?  Wouldn't it just be when someone
> > re-installs something they've uninstalled?  I would have thought tmpfs
> > is the way to go here - when end users run yum, it's better to
> > re-download than to use up the overlay - once that's gone, you're hosed.
> > 
> > Jeff Weiss
> > 
> 
> Er, on second thought there's really not much sense in eating up swap
> space.  Maybe we should just turn off the cache (keepcache=0) ?
> 
keepcache=0 just means that yum will automatically delete package files
it has installed/updated. Not that it won't hold a cache.


> I suspect that means it'll always have to download headers, but
> bandwidth is more plentiful than memory on the XO :)

headers have nothing to do with it.

-sv




From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 14 13:30:30 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:30:30 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223991030.16857.103.camel@rosebud>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:04 -0400, Jeff Weiss wrote:

> This is two separate issues isn't it?  Doesn't /var/cache/yum get
> written to whether you use the applet or yum on the command line?
> 
> My understanding of the overlay was that once you write something to it,
> that space is gone forever, even if you delete those files.  So having
> cache as part of the overlay will just make it fill up quicker.  And
> aren't yum cache hits pretty unlikely?  Wouldn't it just be when someone
> re-installs something they've uninstalled?  I would have thought tmpfs
> is the way to go here - when end users run yum, it's better to
> re-download than to use up the overlay - once that's gone, you're hosed.

I think the issue is the applet does it automatically. Yum does it only
on demand.

-sv



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 13:33:02 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:33:02 +0200
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <48F464EE.8@poolshark.org>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F464EE.8@poolshark.org>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810140633q29d29c83na57445bb222efc18@mail.gmail.com>

> The 6100 is not yet supported for Linux:
>
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57791

Are you sure? These posts are from 2005 (?!?)

Valent.

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From ajax at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 13:37:09 2008
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:37:09 -0400
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
Message-ID: <1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 15:40 -0500, Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a couple of questions regarding grub and plymouth and whether
> what I'm seeing may or may not be a bug. 
> 
> First, when I boot my laptop I am usually greeted by a GRUB menu with a
> background image, this is not the case in F10.  Instead, my laptop goes
> automatically into booting from a blank screen.  Then I get a couple of
> messages and then plymouth starts.  Is this normal or should I get the
> usual GRUB menu with the count down allowing me to select kernels?
> Note: this laptop is only running F10 it's not a dual boot or anything
> strange.

This is normal.  If you want the grub menu, hold down shift (or any
other key really).

> Second, when plymouth starts my screen is black except for a progress
> bar, which is doesn't progress smoothly and changes a few colours with
> the words Fedora 9.92 in the lower right hand corner.  However, the
> progress bar does eventual fill out though it still flickers with
> different colours.  I have an intel 945 video chip.  

That's the text plugin, yes.  It's not going to progress "smoothly",
it's ascii art.  We were hoping KMS support would land for Intel chips
for F10 but it looks like that's not going to happen.

- ajax
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From davidwmack at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 13:41:54 2008
From: davidwmack at gmail.com (David Mack)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:41:54 -0700
Subject: Xorg 1.5.2 segfaulting
In-Reply-To: <1223920478.7707.89.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <753ec7300810130921ga974e37h3cfd51d6f4df445f@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223920478.7707.89.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <753ec7300810140641o6e3f6953ibb7c31a0bf42e822@mail.gmail.com>

After installing the latest updates, X is no longer dying. I would
speculate that this is due to the new i810 driver. However, the
interface doesn't accept either mouse clicks or keystrokes (including
Ctl-Alt-BS or Ctl-Alt-Fn), but pointer moves work.

Dave


On 10/13/08, Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 09:21 -0700, David Mack wrote:
> > On a Dell GX270 (i386) Xorg is segfaulting. The machine is booting to
> > runlevel 3, I log in as root and run startx. I've tried this with and
> > without xorg.conf, with and without /etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi.
> >
> > Is anyone else seeing this or am I just cursed?
>
> Creepy.  Not seeing that here, and the lack of backtrace at the segfault
> is worrying.  I'll get that fixed, that should at least get us closer to
> knowing why you're crashing.
>
> - ajax
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From overholt at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 13:40:21 2008
From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:40:21 -0400
Subject: CDT feature not showing up in Eclipse for fc10
In-Reply-To: <48F1E6D6.3040700@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <48F1E6D6.3040700@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <20081014134021.GF3726@redhat.com>

* shmuel siegel <fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu> [2008-10-12 08:12]:
> After making a baseline install of fc10 I yum installed eclipse-cdt.  
> However, cdt is not listed as one of my features and I don't have a c  
> editor. What else is required to make cdt work?

You may be being bitten by this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458626

And yes, the desription mentions /usr/share and the CDT stuff is in
/usr/lib{,64}, but it could be the same bug.

Alex (CC'd) is looking into this situation so any information you can
provide him would be greatly appreciated.

Andrew



From msolberg at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 13:48:33 2008
From: msolberg at redhat.com (Michael Solberg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:48:33 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <48F49EAE.8030608@redhat.com>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com>  <48F49AE5.3010301@redhat.com>
	<1223990335.5615.43.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F49EAE.8030608@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223992113.7633.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>


On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:29 -0400, Jeff Weiss wrote:
> Michael Solberg wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:13 -0400, Jeff Weiss wrote:
> >> Er, on second thought there's really not much sense in eating up swap
> >> space.  Maybe we should just turn off the cache (keepcache=0) ?
> > 
> > This is definitely the best solution.
> > 
> >> I suspect that means it'll always have to download headers, but
> >> bandwidth is more plentiful than memory on the XO :)
> > 
> > It's true - I do wonder though, is it really feasible to try to do
> > updates on an XO?  Six months from now running updates will eat at least
> > 512MB, either blowing out the overlay or the RAM.  This will require the
> > user to re-burn the card.  Maybe we need a different way to do updates.
> > 
> > Michael.
> > 
> > 
> 
> This is why I was really surprised when I heard we were shipping Live
> images.  I would think an installed image with say, 1.7gb of filesystems
> and 256mb swap would have been the way to go.

I'll try this while I'm testing tonight.  I've noticed that the loop
filesystems eat a ton of CPU cycles when the system goes into swap.

Does anyone have concrete data on the maximum number of writes on an SD
card?

Michael.




From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 13:34:39 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:34:39 +0200
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <48F46617.1040602@bigpond.com>
References: <64b14b300810140148o64ed188y5c7dc656953e74b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F46617.1040602@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810140634r49719734w268d46cf35837e0b@mail.gmail.com>

>
> what kmod-nvidia drivers from livna-dev are you using? ....you should try
> the Nvidia 177.80 driver

Livna has Nvidia 177.80 driver

Valent.

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From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 14:03:39 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:03:39 -0700
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <1223992113.7633.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com> <48F49AE5.3010301@redhat.com>
	<1223990335.5615.43.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F49EAE.8030608@redhat.com>
	<1223992113.7633.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810140703t5112ff42hafd469f3c0305028@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:48 AM, Michael Solberg wrote:
> I'll try this while I'm testing tonight.  I've noticed that the loop
> filesystems eat a ton of CPU cycles when the system goes into swap.
>
> Does anyone have concrete data on the maximum number of writes on an SD
> card?

This came up on slashdot a while back. I have not tested myself, but
apparently the newer generation of SD have pretty good life, 2 million
or so writes per block and built-in wear leveling so that's spread evenly.
That's what makes it worth shipping flash-based hard drives in the
MacBook Air and similar.

For example, this site tried to come up with a worst case for a 64G disk:
"2 million (write endurance) x 64G (capacity) divided by 80M bytes /
sec gives the endurance limited life in seconds. The end result is 51
years!"
http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html

So it's not as bad as you might fear, but performance is still an issue.



From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 14:07:19 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:07:19 -0700
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <1223991006.16857.101.camel@rosebud>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F498F3.3000403@redhat.com> <48F49AE5.3010301@redhat.com>
	<1223991006.16857.101.camel@rosebud>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810140707t7c64fef9g300aaaef7961709b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:30 AM, seth vidal wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:13 -0400, Jeff Weiss wrote:
>> Er, on second thought there's really not much sense in eating up swap
>> space.  Maybe we should just turn off the cache (keepcache=0) ?
>>
> keepcache=0 just means that yum will automatically delete package files
> it has installed/updated. Not that it won't hold a cache.

I've run into this on servers with small hard disks, too. The only solution
I've found is to break the updates into small enough sets for available
disk and RAM. When something big like RHEL 4 Update 4 or whatever
comes out it may make more sense to rebuild from the new ISOs.



From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 14:29:28 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:29:28 -0700
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <1294043384.289761223938754884.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <501843626.289551223938387402.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1294043384.289761223938754884.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810140729y18e66efas27c029751c0220a7@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Josh Bressers wrote:
> Perhaps it would be worth creating an "tiny" spin or something similar for these
> little netbooks.

Hmm... sounds like UNR: "Hands on with the Ubuntu Netbook Remix"
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080604-hands-on-with-the-ubuntu-netbook-remix.html

I've not used it, but I did a little searching around and looks like the
requirements are in the ballpark of the XO (and eee, etc.):
http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/nbr
Minimum hardware requirements:
    * Processor: Intel Atom processor
    * RAM: 512 MB
    * Storage: 4 GB Flash disk (SSD) or hard disk

UNR runs GNOME but with a special always-maximized wm maximus, which
is apparently out of sync with upstream according to this recent comment:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/netbook-remix-launcher/+bug/272637/comments/15



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Tue Oct 14 14:49:07 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:49:07 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <48F46CC1.7090107@hi.is>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop> <48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>
	<1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
	<6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223977557.48f46a55a1fbe@ssl.mecca.ca> <48F46CC1.7090107@hi.is>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810141646580.27127@sandbox.cz>

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:

> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
>> Quoting Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>:
>>
>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:
>> 
> The cards that do not support kms get the progress bars other get this..
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jSh1ZOaNYs
>
> Note This is what most ATI card owners are supposed to get.
> ( If not file a bug report )
>
> Intel and Nvidia and other unsupported graphic cards owner will get the 
> "progress bar"
> since KMS is disabled for those cards..

The advantage is not very obvious to me from those videos. Crazy wave or 
crazy progress bar..:) Tried on nvidia and intel and both show progress 
bar.. I thought intel was to first one to have KMS..

>
> JBG
>

Adam Pribyl

From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 12:01:34 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:01:34 -0400
Subject: Valid Partition Tables Can't be read by (some) Installers
In-Reply-To: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>
References: <48F06EC7.4060403@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1223985694.12340.21.camel@aglarond.local>

On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 02:15 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Rawhide and Ubuntu 8.10 beta can't read the partition table on
> my first SATA hard drive.  Yet fdisk can read and write them
> without problem.

What happens when you run parted against the disk?

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 12:18:39 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:18:39 -0400
Subject: XO: livecd-iso-to-disk.sh on rhel5 seems problematic
In-Reply-To: <48EECFEE.3090203@redhat.com>
References: <48EECFEE.3090203@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223986719.12340.25.camel@aglarond.local>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 22:45 -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> I was trying to use Jeremy's livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script w/ the
> olpc-gnome.iso to get my XO up and running and it got very weird boot
> failures:
> 
> Stuff like "<buffer at 800000>:2: Can't find word to replace"
> and "Can't open boot device"
> 
> Running the script on an F8 box got it going properly.
> 
> I'm not sure what the problem is at this point but just in case anyone
> else has had the same trouble...

I honestly haven't tried it on RHEL5 -- it's entirely possible that
something in RHEL5 is too old to work properly.  A run of it with sh -x
might point out some other place we're depending on something newer.  If
so, I'm fine with taking patches for that ;)

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 12:23:50 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:23:50 -0400
Subject: Wireless not quite working on Asus EeePC 4G Surf
In-Reply-To: <20081013075754.GB7449@mail.scottro.net>
References: <48F2F5A5.2060801@redhat.com>
	<20081013075754.GB7449@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <1223987030.12340.26.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 03:57 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> If you mean the 2.6.27-x kernels, you are correct, you will not need
> MadWifi drivers, though you might have to manually insert the ath5k
> module.  

If you have to manually insert the ath5k module, that is a bug.  The
module should have a module alias for all pci ids that it supports (and
afaik, it does).  If you have to manually insert the module, please file
a bug in bugzilla with the output of lspci -n for your system and dmesg
from before you insert ath5k. 

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 12:16:47 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:16:47 -0400
Subject: F10 Snap1 Verify and Boot?
In-Reply-To: <E0E5AA484EE84BFD88371FDFA72C4321@Q9450>
References: <E0E5AA484EE84BFD88371FDFA72C4321@Q9450>
Message-ID: <1223986607.12340.23.camel@aglarond.local>

On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 21:45 -0600, Jerry Williams wrote:
> In F10 Snap1 it has the menu item Verify and Boot.
> But with the Plymouth blue line it doesn't say pass or fail.
> If I hit like the up arrow then I can see the percent and see the pass.
> But if I don't hit a key how am I suppose to know that it passed or failed?
> No new is good news?

Well, if it passes, it will just continue on.  But it does sound like
the failure case is a bit busted.  And from what I saw of quickly
looking at bugzilla mail, someone (you? :) filed it so I'll hopefully
get to taking a look at it in the next day or so.  

Jeremy



From mike at miketc.net  Tue Oct 14 14:50:20 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:50:20 -0500
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223995820.9467.8.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:37 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:

> That's the text plugin, yes.  It's not going to progress "smoothly",
> it's ascii art.  We were hoping KMS support would land for Intel chips
> for F10 but it looks like that's not going to happen.

Got a PCI X1300 from Vision Tek laying round.  It has/uses KMS and
wonder if any better than my nvidia chipset below...

nVidia Corporation GeForce 6100 nForce 430 (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA
controller])


-- 
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302 at fedoraproject.org



From bgardin at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 15:04:03 2008
From: bgardin at gmail.com (Bruno GARDIN)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:04:03 +0200
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810141646580.27127@sandbox.cz>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop> <48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>
	<1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
	<6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<1223977557.48f46a55a1fbe@ssl.mecca.ca> <48F46CC1.7090107@hi.is>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810141646580.27127@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <4a2527c40810140804o7b6fef1dh7dd40f126a8fba83@mail.gmail.com>

I should be a lucky then as i am having an Intel Video and get the
nice Fedora splash screen. I think it's because i run Rawhide on a
virtual VMware guest system and my video is virtualized. Thank you
VMware !

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Adam Pribyl <pribyl at lowlevel.cz> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>
>> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
>>>
>>> Quoting Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:
>>>
>> The cards that do not support kms get the progress bars other get this..
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jSh1ZOaNYs
>>
>> Note This is what most ATI card owners are supposed to get.
>> ( If not file a bug report )
>>
>> Intel and Nvidia and other unsupported graphic cards owner will get the
>> "progress bar"
>> since KMS is disabled for those cards..
>
> The advantage is not very obvious to me from those videos. Crazy wave or
> crazy progress bar..:) Tried on nvidia and intel and both show progress
> bar.. I thought intel was to first one to have KMS..
>
>>
>> JBG
>>
>
> Adam Pribyl
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From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 15:11:05 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:11:05 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1223997065.12340.33.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:58 -0400, Michael Solberg wrote:
> I'm sure someone's thought of this before, but I keep running into this
> issue on the LiveUSB on the XO.
> 
> The issue is that /var/cache/yum is mounted as tmpfs on the Live image.
> When I log into a desktop session that already knows my wireless key,
> the updates applet attempts to download all the packages from Rawhide.

It's supposed to be getting turned off already.  But there have been a
few bugs.  Things should be a lot better as of Snap1 or just after based
on the traffic in the bug (can't find the # off-hand) although I still
need to verify it

> This fills the 256MB of RAM pretty quickly and that hangs the machine.
> Does it make sense to turn that applet off in this case?  Or maybe not
> mount /var/cache/yum as tmpfs when there's an overlay?

Actually, you even *more* want it as tmpfs when there's an overlay.
Otherwise, you fill up your overlay and hit other bad error
conditions :-/

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 15:11:30 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:11:30 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <1223950435.16857.91.camel@rosebud>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1223950435.16857.91.camel@rosebud>
Message-ID: <1223997090.12340.34.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 22:13 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:58 -0400, Michael Solberg wrote:
> > I'm sure someone's thought of this before, but I keep running into this
> > issue on the LiveUSB on the XO.
> > 
> > The issue is that /var/cache/yum is mounted as tmpfs on the Live image.
> > When I log into a desktop session that already knows my wireless key,
> > the updates applet attempts to download all the packages from Rawhide.
> > This fills the 256MB of RAM pretty quickly and that hangs the machine.
> > Does it make sense to turn that applet off in this case?  Or maybe not
> > mount /var/cache/yum as tmpfs when there's an overlay?
> > 
> 
> yes, it makes sense to turn it off.
> 
> maybe even remove it.

If you remove it, then it's not present when people install from the
live image.  Hence, that's a bit of a non-starter

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 15:12:06 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:12:06 -0400
Subject: LiveUSB and PackageKit Updates
In-Reply-To: <20081014131559.GB27052@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <1223949524.24641.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20081014131559.GB27052@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <1223997126.12340.35.camel@aglarond.local>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:15 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:58:44PM -0400, Michael Solberg wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I'm sure someone's thought of this before, but I keep running into this
> > issue on the LiveUSB on the XO.
> > 
> > The issue is that /var/cache/yum is mounted as tmpfs on the Live image.
> > When I log into a desktop session that already knows my wireless key,
> > the updates applet attempts to download all the packages from Rawhide.
> > This fills the 256MB of RAM pretty quickly and that hangs the machine.
> > Does it make sense to turn that applet off in this case?  Or maybe not
> > mount /var/cache/yum as tmpfs when there's an overlay?
> 
> I can easily fill the overlay and crash the LiveOS with ext3 errors.  
> Has any thought been put into how to solve this problem?

The only real way to solve it is to move away from using dm-snapshot for
the overlay and have some form of real unionfs.  But that has its own
level of "fun" problems that seems to go nowhere fast :/

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 15:15:34 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:15:34 -0400
Subject: Creating OLPC-bootable live USB/SDs and testing the Sugar Spin
In-Reply-To: <20081013164309.GA4022@x300>
References: <20081013164309.GA4022@x300>
Message-ID: <1223997334.12340.37.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 12:43 -0400, Luke Macken wrote:
> I recently added support to the liveusb-creator for creating live usb sticks
> and sd cards that can boot on the OLPC.  

Note that there's still a fair bit of churn in the setup being done for
the OLPC to improve how well it runs.  So you definitely don't want this
to be "set in stone" yet

Jeremy



From sandeen at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 15:20:32 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:20:32 -0500
Subject: XO: livecd-iso-to-disk.sh on rhel5 seems problematic
In-Reply-To: <1223986719.12340.25.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <48EECFEE.3090203@redhat.com>
	<1223986719.12340.25.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <48F4B8C0.3010306@redhat.com>

Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 22:45 -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>> I was trying to use Jeremy's livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script w/ the
>> olpc-gnome.iso to get my XO up and running and it got very weird boot
>> failures:
>>
>> Stuff like "<buffer at 800000>:2: Can't find word to replace"
>> and "Can't open boot device"
>>
>> Running the script on an F8 box got it going properly.
>>
>> I'm not sure what the problem is at this point but just in case anyone
>> else has had the same trouble...
> 
> I honestly haven't tried it on RHEL5 -- it's entirely possible that
> something in RHEL5 is too old to work properly.  A run of it with sh -x
> might point out some other place we're depending on something newer.  If
> so, I'm fine with taking patches for that ;)

Yeah, I'll see if I can find something; if not, I at least wanted to
note that it may be the cause of cryptic failures.  :)

-Eric



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 15:19:35 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:19:35 -0400
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223997575.12340.41.camel@aglarond.local>

On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 19:10 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:
> So previously I voiced my concern over getting gnome to run on the XO.  I'm
> not not convinced it's a good idea, but here's how to make it work.  My SD
> card has a 512M swap partition and a 2 Gig overlay (I have the 4 Gig card).

The general hope is that you can run the live image that best suits your
needs and requirements.  

> If you don't fix the image, the machine will eat up too much RAM and
> won't run, so you need to use an overlay file so the changes stick between
> reboots.

As it turns out, memory isn't the biggest problem.  A bigger problem
actually is the compression from squashfs.  I've got an update pending
for livecd-iso-to-disk (already on my people page, but not in git) to
copy over the raw ext3fs.img instead.  The difference this makes is
pretty staggering.

> At the very least, turn off setroubleshoot, that's the one really eat a lot of RAM.

As of snap1, setroubleshoot is generally off on the live images (though
for those installing a live image to a regular machine, you'll get
normal setroubleshoot functionality after rebooting)

Jeremy



From fedora at leemhuis.info  Tue Oct 14 15:53:11 2008
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:53:11 +0200
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins now
 for livna-devel users!
Message-ID: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>

Hi!

Find below a cut'n'pasted and slightly enhanced version of a post from 
my blog FYI:


As you'll likely have heard by now: RPM Fusion ( http://rpmfusion.org ), 
the merger of Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna gets closer to its official 
release/start. Most of the packages from Livna have been imported and 
build for RPM Fusion already, hence we now begin to slowly move users 
from Livna over to RPM Fusion by activating the RPM Fusion free and 
nonfree rawhide repos for users of livna's devel branch *now*.

The transition works like this: I just added the rpmfusion-release 
packages for the RPM Fusion's free and nonfree rawhide repos to the 
livna-devel repo; in parallel I built a new livna-release package that 
tracks those two in with a hard dep. That way all users that installed 
livna properly (e.g. by installing the livna-release package) will get 
RPM Fusion repos enabled automatically with the next update. Yum/PK will 
hence with the overnext update will download a big bunch of updates, as 
all the packages were build anew for RPM Fusion; but rawhide users are 
likely used to big downloads, so this should hopefully not be a big 
problem ;-)

Note, nearly all of livna's packages have been imported and build for 
RPM Fusion, but a few are still missing. So you should leave livna-devel 
enabled for now if you want access to those. Once all the packages have 
a new home we'll let the rpmfusion-nonfree-release package obsolete 
livna-release.

But please note that all the packages that have been imported and build 
in RPM Fusion will *not* be updated anymore in livna-devel! Hence if you 
didn't install livna using the livna-release package then please enable 
RPM Fusion using the following command:

> rpm -ivh \
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm \
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm

That command from now on is the right one to use if you want RPM Fusion 
enabled on your fresh new Fedora Alpha/Beta/RC/Rawhide install.


FYI, the plan is to move livna users of F8 and F9 over to RPM Fusion 
with the same trick sooner or later. But some things in RPM Fusion need 
to get brought in shape before we start doing that. But if you want you 
can already help by using and testing RPM Fusion for F8 and F9 by 
running this command:

> rpm -ivh \
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm \
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm

RPM Fusion's Bugtracker (please report all issues here and not on the 
mailing lists!):
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/

Mailing lists for RPM Fusion users (includes users of the devel branch)
http://lists.rpmfusion.org/mailman/listinfo/rpmfusion-users

Mailing lists for RPM Fusion developers:
http://lists.rpmfusion.org/mailman/listinfo/rpmfusion-developers


Please spread the news, to make sure all the docs in the internet get 
updated! tia!

CU
knurd

P.S.: BTW, some of you might have noticed already, the livna mailing 
lists (like freeworld{,-graphics}@livna.org) are dead since a few weeks; 
the hard disk in Anvil's mailman host died afaik (I don't know more 
details; sorry). But Livna will be superseded by RPM Fusion soon anyway, 
so simply use the those lists from rpmfusion from now on. They should 
serve well for the remaining time, as all the livna contributors should 
be subscribed there as well. Sorry for the trouble.

P.P.S.: Sorry for crossposting this to four lists, but it seemed wise 
for this announcement...



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 15:59:49 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:59:49 -0400
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
Message-ID: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>

Greetings folks,

Fedora 10 Beta Snapshot#1 was released last Friday (see
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-October/msg00004.html).  Along with a batch of packaging updates, snapshot#1 includes the proper XO fixes to for booting stock Fedora Live images on the XO.  I have updated the "Installation" procedures at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card.

At present, the biggest blocker to progress seems to be performance.
There has been a lot of great discussion around improving performance
within the low resource environment on the XO (from runlevel service
changes to desktop environment changes).  I'd like to spend this week
capturing those recommendations onto the wiki.

Please base your suggestions/findings on Fedora 10 Beta (snap#1).  I
have stubbed a wiki page to house tips/suggestions at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance.  If you
don't see a category for your suggestion, don't hesitate to create a new
one.

At the end of this week we'll review the changes and identify the big
wins.

Thanks,
James
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From tarus at opennms.org  Tue Oct 14 16:00:21 2008
From: tarus at opennms.org (Tarus Balog)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:00:21 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <1294043384.289761223938754884.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1294043384.289761223938754884.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <42670D31-BAC6-4392-BFDE-1C12787FF047@opennms.org>


On Oct 13, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Josh Bressers wrote:

> You can get Gnome to run, without swap, as long as you follow my  
> previous
> directions to disable most services and disable most of the things  
> that Gnome runs
> (like the packagekit daemon, which is a real killer when it tries to  
> update things).

Your instructions worked great, and I'm finally about to do (albeit  
slowly) some things on my XO. But GNOME hangs on me quite a bit, and  
I'm kind of at a loss as to where to go from here.

-T

_______________________________________________________________________
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From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 15:23:04 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:23:04 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <1223913653.7938.8.camel@tao>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
	<48F36F3C.7020702@fedoraproject.org>  <1223913653.7938.8.camel@tao>
Message-ID: <1223997784.12340.47.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 12:00 -0400, Ty wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Steven Salevan wrote:
> > > GNOME may indeed be more familiar to users, but what use is familiarity 
> > > if there's no functionality?  At least XFCE can run comfortably on the 
> > > limited resources of the XO, allowing us to focus on the issues that we 
> > > can indeed address in the limited time we have.  What do you guys think?
> > 
> > Have you actually tested Xfce on XO to see if it performs better?
> 
> it performs a ton better, i followed these directions:
> http://bc.tech.coop/blog/080130.html 

... and congratulations, you've tested something which is entirely
different.

The big problem *ISN'T* GNOME vs XFCE.  The problem is the (large) hit
we take on performance with squashfs decompression.  So with the snap1
images, things have been changed a bit so that we can instead use the
ext3fs and take decompression out of it.  Which makes an impressive
amount of difference

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 15:26:49 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:26:49 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <48F38BAD.1010509@redhat.com>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <48F3849D.3050007@redhat.com>
	<48F38BAD.1010509@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1223998009.12340.54.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 13:55 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Jeff Weiss wrote:
> > Steven Salevan wrote:
> I did the following
> 
> - Get the latest fedora-xo code (git clone 
> git://dev.laptop.org/projects/fedora-xo)

This repo isn't really relevant to the current testing.  The idea is
that we're using the _actual live images produced by Fedora_.  The only
reason the ones for the beta weren't were
1) I failed to push the appropriate fix for booting off of SD into
livecd-tools and didn't notice until it was too late
2) Working around the fact that the X driver doesn't appropriately
autoconfig on the XO.  This is worked around in spin-kickstarts now by
detecting the XO and setting up the xorg.conf

Jeremy



From mike at miketc.net  Tue Oct 14 16:19:47 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:19:47 -0500
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
 now for livna-devel users!
In-Reply-To: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
Message-ID: <1224001187.3526.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:53 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

> As you'll likely have heard by now: RPM Fusion ( http://rpmfusion.org ), 
> the merger of Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna gets closer to its official 
> release/start. Most of the packages from Livna have been imported and 
> build for RPM Fusion already, hence we now begin to slowly move users 
> from Livna over to RPM Fusion by activating the RPM Fusion free and 
> nonfree rawhide repos for users of livna's devel branch *now*.

Why the repo, updates.repo and updates-testing.repo, and rawhide-repo?
I guess what I am asking, is why not just the repo itself (which would
have all the updates as well), testing I guess for the updates are
official, and then the devel/rawhide repo?

Your kind of gonna do same thing as Fedora, such as a base, then
updates, testing, and a rawhide version?

-- 
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302 at fedoraproject.org



From gdk at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 16:20:29 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:20:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <1223997784.12340.47.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com> <48F36F3C.7020702@fedoraproject.org>
	<1223913653.7938.8.camel@tao>
	<1223997784.12340.47.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141218410.10767@localhost.localdomain>



On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 12:00 -0400, Ty wrote:
>> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> Steven Salevan wrote:

>>>> GNOME may indeed be more familiar to users, but what use is 
>>>> familiarity if there's no functionality?  At least XFCE can run 
>>>> comfortably on the limited resources of the XO, allowing us to focus 
>>>> on the issues that we can indeed address in the limited time we have. 
>>>> What do you guys think?
>>>
>>> Have you actually tested Xfce on XO to see if it performs better?
>>
>> it performs a ton better, i followed these directions:
>> http://bc.tech.coop/blog/080130.html
>
> ... and congratulations, you've tested something which is entirely
> different.
>
> The big problem *ISN'T* GNOME vs XFCE.  The problem is the (large) hit
> we take on performance with squashfs decompression.  So with the snap1
> images, things have been changed a bit so that we can instead use the
> ext3fs and take decompression out of it.  Which makes an impressive
> amount of difference

This implies that we need to make it *extremely* clear that people should 
now be testing snap1 with the modified LiveCD tools, per the note that Mr. 
Laska just sent to the list.

Is this right?  If we all agree, we should probably make a ton of noise 
about it to make sure that everyone is on the same page.

--g



From gdk at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 16:25:09 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:25:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
In-Reply-To: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>


To make this crystal clear:

Please, EVERYONE, reinstall Fedora 10 Beta Snap 1 using the precise 
instructions at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card

This means, for now, no testing of Xfce.  Let's see how GNOME performs 
with these instructions.  Feel free to send general impressions to the 
list.

--g

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, James Laska wrote:

> Greetings folks,
>
> Fedora 10 Beta Snapshot#1 was released last Friday (see
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-October/msg00004.html).  Along with a batch of packaging updates, snapshot#1 includes the proper XO fixes to for booting stock Fedora Live images on the XO.  I have updated the "Installation" procedures at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card.
>
> At present, the biggest blocker to progress seems to be performance.
> There has been a lot of great discussion around improving performance
> within the low resource environment on the XO (from runlevel service
> changes to desktop environment changes).  I'd like to spend this week
> capturing those recommendations onto the wiki.
>
> Please base your suggestions/findings on Fedora 10 Beta (snap#1).  I
> have stubbed a wiki page to house tips/suggestions at
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance.  If you
> don't see a category for your suggestion, don't hesitate to create a new
> one.
>
> At the end of this week we'll review the changes and identify the big
> wins.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 16:29:31 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:29:31 -0500
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
In-Reply-To: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <1224001771.3109.3.camel@cambridge-laptop>

I'll check this later tonight.
C


On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 11:59 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> Greetings folks,
> 
> Fedora 10 Beta Snapshot#1 was released last Friday (see
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-October/msg00004.html).  Along with a batch of packaging updates, snapshot#1 includes the proper XO fixes to for booting stock Fedora Live images on the XO.  I have updated the "Installation" procedures at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card.
> 
> At present, the biggest blocker to progress seems to be performance.
> There has been a lot of great discussion around improving performance
> within the low resource environment on the XO (from runlevel service
> changes to desktop environment changes).  I'd like to spend this week
> capturing those recommendations onto the wiki.
> 
> Please base your suggestions/findings on Fedora 10 Beta (snap#1).  I
> have stubbed a wiki page to house tips/suggestions at
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance.  If you
> don't see a category for your suggestion, don't hesitate to create a new
> one.
> 
> At the end of this week we'll review the changes and identify the big
> wins.
> 
> Thanks,
> James
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list



From Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca  Tue Oct 14 16:48:08 2008
From: Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca (Robin Laing)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:48:08 -0600
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
 now for livna-devel users!
In-Reply-To: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
Message-ID: <48F4CD48.8070208@drdc-rddc.gc.ca>

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Find below a cut'n'pasted and slightly enhanced version of a post from 
> my blog FYI:
> 
> 
> As you'll likely have heard by now: RPM Fusion ( http://rpmfusion.org ), 
> the merger of Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna gets closer to its official 
> release/start. Most of the packages from Livna have been imported and 
> build for RPM Fusion already, hence we now begin to slowly move users 
> from Livna over to RPM Fusion by activating the RPM Fusion free and 
> nonfree rawhide repos for users of livna's devel branch *now*.
> 

It will cut many of the headaches between repos.

This is long overdue and very good news. :)



-- 
Robin Laing



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 17:01:50 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:01:50 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224003710.7420.44.camel@flatline>

Greetings,

F10-Beta snap#1 is dramatically faster on my XO.  Still not quite a
speed demon.

Performance no doubt is the killer right now.  It keeps us from moving
on to deeper issues on the XO.  I'd like to pull together a lot of the
recommendations put forth so far into the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance.  Please
include any/all suggestions.

Before we make the decision to change the target Live image, or to build
a XO-specific live image, I'd like to gather all the pain points into
one place.  From there we can make a recommendation.

Thanks,
James

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 11:50 -0400, Steven Salevan wrote:
> Hey guys,
> At the moment, it appears that GNOME is borderline dysfunctional on my 
> XO, despite applying the recommended speed fixes (creating a persistent 
> overlay, turning off swappiness).  On runlevel 3, the box seems to be 
> stable and at least usable, but if I switch over to runlevel 5, I cannot 
> use the box for more than about 3 minutes without receiving a kernel 
> panic that leads to a total system freeze.  Alas, this panic is not 
> logged to any system log, but I'll be connecting up a serial console 
> over the next day or two get it off of the system and into a new BZ.
> 
> Outside of the panic issue, how goes GNOME testing for everyone else on 
> the list?  For the few minutes that the device actually works, the 
> system seems to crawl along at glacial speeds, taking over a minute to 
> bring up simple tools such as the Appearance preferences configurator.  
> Firefox takes more time to load than the box has before reaching the 
> aforementioned system freeze.
> 
> So...  if my hunch is right, and I fear it is, I don't know if 2.5 
> weeks' worth of testing is going to ensure that we ship a functional 
> GNOME-laden version of F10.  From what I've read and heard, the plan is 
> to maintain a sizeable swap space on the SD card, as the 256MB of 
> built-in RAM alone is not sufficient to run GNOME, which will wear out 
> the card in time along with limiting available space (especially if 
> we're leaning on shipping the 2G card with each XO).
> 
> This might be a controversial viewpoint, and if so, so be it, but I 
> wonder if we shouldn't change our focus to a more lightweight window 
> manager such as XFCE.  There's already been work performed to this effect:
> 
> http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/fedora-xo;a=summary
> 
> GNOME may indeed be more familiar to users, but what use is familiarity 
> if there's no functionality?  At least XFCE can run comfortably on the 
> limited resources of the XO, allowing us to focus on the issues that we 
> can indeed address in the limited time we have.  What do you guys think?
> -Steve Salevan
> ssalevan at redhat.com

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From tyf at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 17:03:04 2008
From: tyf at redhat.com (Ty)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:03:04 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
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On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 11:23 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > > Have you actually tested Xfce on XO to see if it performs better?
> > 
> > it performs a ton better, i followed these directions:
> > http://bc.tech.coop/blog/080130.html 
> 
> ... and congratulations, you've tested something which is entirely
> different.

i realized that, i just didnt know if it was the hardware that was the
bottleneck or not. 

-- 
????? ??????? (know thyself) 
????? ???? (nothing in excess) 
? 



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 17:06:49 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:06:49 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <1224003784.10539.1.camel@tao>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
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On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:03 -0400, Ty wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 11:23 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > > > Have you actually tested Xfce on XO to see if it performs better?
> > > 
> > > it performs a ton better, i followed these directions:
> > > http://bc.tech.coop/blog/080130.html 
> > 
> > ... and congratulations, you've tested something which is entirely
> > different.
> 
> i realized that, i just didnt know if it was the hardware that was the
> bottleneck or not. 

Yeah, but the problem is you're comparing apples and oranges to
determine the bottleneck.  If you want to know if XFCE performs better,
then you need to test it in the same environment.

Which either means a) using an XFCE live image built the same way as the
GNOME ones and doing your comparison there or b) installing GNOME onto
the nand from a yum repo and comparing _that_ to XFCE installed that
way.

Jeremy



From fedora at leemhuis.info  Tue Oct 14 17:19:22 2008
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:19:22 +0200
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
 now for livna-devel users!
In-Reply-To: <1224001187.3526.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
	<1224001187.3526.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
Message-ID: <48F4D49A.80701@leemhuis.info>

On 14.10.2008 18:19, Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:53 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> 
>> As you'll likely have heard by now: RPM Fusion ( http://rpmfusion.org ), 
>> the merger of Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna gets closer to its official 
>> release/start. Most of the packages from Livna have been imported and 
>> build for RPM Fusion already, hence we now begin to slowly move users 
>> from Livna over to RPM Fusion by activating the RPM Fusion free and 
>> nonfree rawhide repos for users of livna's devel branch *now*.
> Why the repo, updates.repo and updates-testing.repo, and rawhide-repo?

Note that Livna not only had "one repo" -- it also had a testing and 
rawhide repo. So it's just one more then before in fact.

> I guess what I am asking, is why not just the repo itself (which would
> have all the updates as well), testing I guess for the updates are
> official, and then the devel/rawhide repo?
> 
> Your kind of gonna do same thing as Fedora, such as a base, then
> updates, testing, and a rawhide version?

Exactly. Two of the reasons for it:

- Spins

- using RPM Fusion directly during Fedora install

Both is not easily possible to support with the "one main add-on repo 
without a updates-repo" approach livna had, as then packages from livna 
sometimes require updated Fedora packages -- thus it worked in the 
installer or during spin creation only if you enabled the Fedora updates 
repo as well. Now you don't need to do that (but you of course can, as 
long as you enable the update repos from both Fedora and RPM Fusion)

CU
knurd



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Tue Oct 14 17:18:03 2008
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:18:03 -0500
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
	now for livna-devel users!
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
	<1224001187.3526.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
Message-ID: <gd2k8b$cc0$2@ger.gmane.org>

Mike Chambers wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:53 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

> Why the repo, updates.repo and updates-testing.repo, and rawhide-repo?

rationale is to match fedora's released, updates, and updates-testing repos.

-- Rex




From tyf at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 17:22:53 2008
From: tyf at redhat.com (Ty)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:22:53 -0400
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <1224004009.12340.83.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <48F36E31.1020704@redhat.com>
	<48F36F3C.7020702@fedoraproject.org>  <1223913653.7938.8.camel@tao>
	<1223997784.12340.47.camel@aglarond.local>
	<1224003784.10539.1.camel@tao>
	<1224004009.12340.83.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <1224004973.11683.6.camel@tao>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:06 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:03 -0400, Ty wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 11:23 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > > > > Have you actually tested Xfce on XO to see if it performs better?
> > > > 
> > > > it performs a ton better, i followed these directions:
> > > > http://bc.tech.coop/blog/080130.html 
> > > 
> > > ... and congratulations, you've tested something which is entirely
> > > different.
> > 
> > i realized that, i just didnt know if it was the hardware that was the
> > bottleneck or not. 
> 
> Yeah, but the problem is you're comparing apples and oranges to
> determine the bottleneck.  If you want to know if XFCE performs better,
> then you need to test it in the same environment.

definitely, what i originally said was incorrect. 

> 
> Which either means a) using an XFCE live image built the same way as the
> GNOME ones and doing your comparison there or b) installing GNOME onto
> the nand from a yum repo and comparing _that_ to XFCE installed that
> way.
> 
> Jeremy
> 
-- 
????? ??????? (know thyself) 
????? ???? (nothing in excess) 
? 



From mike at miketc.net  Tue Oct 14 17:35:08 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:35:08 -0500
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
 now for livna-devel users!
In-Reply-To: <gd2k8b$cc0$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
	<1224001187.3526.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
	<gd2k8b$cc0$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1224005708.3526.8.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 12:18 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Mike Chambers wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:53 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> 
> > Why the repo, updates.repo and updates-testing.repo, and rawhide-repo?
> 
> rationale is to match fedora's released, updates, and updates-testing repos.

Yea, while creating my personal infastructure for getting ready for
rpmfusion, I sort of realized on my own about why, mainly what you and
Thorsten mentioned  and figured as much.

Getting my little network together for when it goes gold and having it
available via rsync.

Is rpmfusion going to be Gold once F10 comes out and have everything (or
just livna or whomever else) ready by then?

-- 
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302 at fedoraproject.org



From jdf.lists at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 17:41:13 2008
From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:41:13 -0700
Subject: Using the XO with the gnome image
In-Reply-To: <1223997575.12340.41.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <1278895579.2289801223680244145.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1223997575.12340.41.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <67437bc40810141041k59296a82m91ac2fde49aadfd4@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 19:10 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:
>> At the very least, turn off setroubleshoot, that's the one really eat a lot of RAM.
>
> As of snap1, setroubleshoot is generally off on the live images (though
> for those installing a live image to a regular machine, you'll get
> normal setroubleshoot functionality after rebooting)

Thanks,  that's exactly the sort of generalizable performance for all machines
we need. I'd much rather use the generic Fedora LiveCD and leave services
like NFS client turned on even if most people won't use them.



From ssalevan at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 17:40:56 2008
From: ssalevan at redhat.com (Steven Salevan)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:40:56 -0400
Subject: XO Roll Call: Sign up for XO Testing Teams!
Message-ID: <48F4D9A8.7010505@redhat.com>

Greetings fellow XO testers,
It appears that with the new GNOME build the XO has reached a testable 
state so it's time to start pulling together testing groups.  We will be 
focusing on 6 major feature areas over the next two weeks:

 - Performance
 - Built-in Camera
 - Power Management
 - Networking
 - Display
 - Audio

Since there are ~100 volunteers participating in this project, we 
realized that some structure might help to both resolve leadership 
confusion and streamline the test process; hence, we're organizing 
testing teams for each individual feature area.  There are two major 
roles in each team:  that of the team lead and that of the team member.

As a team lead, you will have several responsibilities:
 - Coordinate your team's testing efforts
 - Establish a time for and lead regular team IRC meetings
 - Establish some _very_ basic focus point stubs for your feature area 
on your Wiki page (for a good example, check out 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance)
 - Report testing status bi-weekly for your respective feature area page 
on the Wiki
 - Ensure that all defects/bugs are filed and those that are already 
filed block the FedoraOnXo tracker bug

If you'd like to be a team lead, send me an e-mail (ssalevan at redhat.com) 
with your top 3 feature area interests.  These roles will be meted out 
on a first-come, first-served basis, so be sure and get those e-mails 
out as soon as you can.  I'll be heading up the Audio team (known 
henceforth as 'The Phil Collins Experience'), so if you thoroughly enjoy 
both the production and generation of sound, you should join my team.  :-P

As a team member, you will have the following responsibilities:
 - Fill in the stubs that your team lead has provided on your feature 
Wiki page with test cases and append your e-mail to each one you create
 - Test each test case you create on each new Fedora XO build
 - If a test case fails, file a Bugzilla (for a refresher on how to do 
this, visit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests)
 - If you file a Bugzilla, notify your team lead and update the test 
case on the Wiki
 - Attend IRC team meetings
 - Come up with a kickass name for your team

So!  If you are part of the XO testing project, you should sign up for 
one of the groups here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XO_Test_Roll_Call

If you have any questions or comments regarding this new process, jlaska 
or I would be glad to answer them.  Otherwise, fire up your new XO, load 
up the new build, and start rocking out some tests!
-Steve Salevan
ssalevan at redhat.com



From poelstra at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 17:48:28 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:48:28 -0700
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-14
Message-ID: <48F4DB6C.2020302@redhat.com>

Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-14

Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.

== Attendees ==
* jlaska
* ke4qqq
* poelcat
* jds2001

== Last Week Followups ==
* jds2001 reports that FTBS is resolved
* poelcat reports that FEver is still in process
* poelcat to update BugZapper's wiki with bullets on why bug triage is 
important to Fedora
** we have great information about the '''how''' of bug triage, but not 
the '''why''' or '''so what'''
* no update from comphappy on greasemonkey scripts

== Triaging Package Reviews ==
* open to considering in the future--right now can't keep up with 
existing work load

== Next Meeting ==
* Tuesday @ 14:00 UTC
* #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net

== IRC Transcript ==



From bkearney at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 17:44:47 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:44:47 -0400
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> 
> To make this crystal clear:
> 
> Please, EVERYONE, reinstall Fedora 10 Beta Snap 1 using the precise 
> instructions at:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card 

And to be clear, these steps will not work with a 2 gig card. So.. is 
the expectation for all of us to go out and get 4 gig cards?

-- bk



From bressers at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 17:59:13 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:59:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: GNOME woes on the XO / A modest proposal
In-Reply-To: <376092542.561591224007052961.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1790035105.561811224007153837.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

----- "Jeremy Katz" <katzj at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> The big problem *ISN'T* GNOME vs XFCE.  The problem is the (large)
> hit
> we take on performance with squashfs decompression.  So with the
> snap1
> images, things have been changed a bit so that we can instead use the
> ext3fs and take decompression out of it.  Which makes an impressive
> amount of difference
> 

I'm running the new snap1 image without compression, and I'm not seeing a huge difference.  It is a bit snappier, but unless I do some surgery, it still freezes once all the RAM is consumed.

I would say as for performance, on a scale of 1 to 10, you've gone from perhaps a 3 to a 4.  The gains I see aren't all that spectacular, especially considering all the folks with 2 Gig cards are SOL now.

-- 
    JB



From gdk at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 17:55:29 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:55:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>


Hello all.

In the initial instructions for XO testers, we asked people to get 2gig 
cards and 4gig cards.

The hope was that 2gig cards would be sufficient, but we needed to test 
that hope.  It now appears that our hope was in vain: the 4gig cards are a 
necessity.

For those of you who purchased the 2gig SD cards, thanks for your 
sacrifice.  Now we know.  :)  If you would like to continue to test Fedora 
on XO, it will be necessary to upgrade to 4gig SD cards.

--g

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Bryan Kearney wrote:

> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>> 
>> To make this crystal clear:
>> 
>> Please, EVERYONE, reinstall Fedora 10 Beta Snap 1 using the precise 
>> instructions at:
>> 
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card 
>
> And to be clear, these steps will not work with a 2 gig card. So.. is the 
> expectation for all of us to go out and get 4 gig cards?
>
> -- bk
>
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



From jonrob at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 14 18:17:58 2008
From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:17:58 +0100
Subject: Yum Upgrade To F10 Beta
Message-ID: <507738ef0810141117g4ec2a05ew9f34cf8aa8598e89@mail.gmail.com>

I've just upgraded my F9 machine to F10 beta via yum. The only change
I had to make to get things functional was to switch to a virtual
terminal and remove my old xorg.conf (I hear this is no longer used?).
Thought I'd share this for anyone who was going to try the same thing.

I'd quite like to get my user account set up though as is the default
for a fresh installation: what . folders do I need to remove for this
to happen? /me finally learnt not to remove all . because of
gnupg/ssh!

Other quick impressions:

boot was with the text based progress bar, intel 945 here.
Grub doesn't seem to have updated and still shows F9 splash screens
and counts down - is there any way to fix this other than manually
changing menu.conf?
Boot seemed fairly quick - approx 45 seconds to login prompt on a
1.6Ghz Intel Atom. If it's still obeying old settings, think I have
some services disabled more than standard.

Will keep an eye out for other interesting points...

Jon



From limb at jcomserv.net  Tue Oct 14 18:25:29 2008
From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:25:29 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Yum Upgrade To F10 Beta
In-Reply-To: <507738ef0810141117g4ec2a05ew9f34cf8aa8598e89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810141117g4ec2a05ew9f34cf8aa8598e89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43734.198.175.55.5.1224008729.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>


> I've just upgraded my F9 machine to F10 beta via yum. The only change
> I had to make to get things functional was to switch to a virtual
> terminal and remove my old xorg.conf (I hear this is no longer used?).
> Thought I'd share this for anyone who was going to try the same thing.
>
> I'd quite like to get my user account set up though as is the default
> for a fresh installation: what . folders do I need to remove for this
> to happen? /me finally learnt not to remove all . because of
> gnupg/ssh!
>
> Other quick impressions:
>
> boot was with the text based progress bar, intel 945 here.
> Grub doesn't seem to have updated and still shows F9 splash screens
> and counts down - is there any way to fix this other than manually
> changing menu.conf?
> Boot seemed fairly quick - approx 45 seconds to login prompt on a
> 1.6Ghz Intel Atom. If it's still obeying old settings, think I have
> some services disabled more than standard.
>
> Will keep an eye out for other interesting points...
>

Great!  Can you post here?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq#Version_specific_notes

You might be interested in:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/LiveUpgrade


> Jon
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>


-- 
novus ordo absurdum



From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com  Tue Oct 14 18:13:51 2008
From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:13:51 -0500
Subject: audio pops and snaps?
In-Reply-To: <1223954576.13861.35.camel@ignacio.lan>
References: <48F406A4.9060800@camerontech.com>
	<1223954576.13861.35.camel@ignacio.lan>
Message-ID: <48F4E15F.1070806@camerontech.com>

Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:40 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> I'm noticing a *lot* of audio pops and snaps.  For instance, I use 
>> Pidgin and I have sound events turned on for pretty much everything. 
>> Often the snaps come as a sound event occurs like someone "speaking" on 
>> IRC - instead of a clear note when someone "talks" there is a snap and 
>> then the note.  Also, when someone joins or leaves, the note is often 
>> (but not always) interrupted by either a short sound dropout or a pop.
> 
> The "pops" are ALSA initializing the sound card as PulseAudio opens it
> for playback. PA closes the audio device after a short period with no
> output.

That's great to know, but how do I fix it?  It is not an enjoyable 
multi-media experience.  ;-)

TC

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From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl  Tue Oct 14 18:34:10 2008
From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst H. von Brand)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:34:10 -0300
Subject: Anyone else seeing a stutter in gnome using rawhide
In-Reply-To: <1223897018.3632.140.camel@moose>
References: <1223897018.3632.140.camel@moose>
Message-ID: <200810141834.m9EIYAHM026277@laptop14.inf.utfsm.cl>

Rodd Clarkson <rodd at clarkson.id.au> wrote:
> I get stutters in gnome while using rawhide.
> 
> If, for example, I'm typing, the text will stop appearing for second (or
> so) and then all the letters I've typed over that time appear.
> 
> Add to this that the icons on the desktop will disappear, and then
> reappear.  This usually happens at the end of the pause.
> 
> Anyone else seen this, and more importantly any ideas what might be
> causing it and what package to file a bug against.
> 
> I should have said something earlier.  I've noticed this for some time,
> but I just assumed it was so obvious that it would be fixed quickly.
> 
> Oh, I've seen the problem three times while typing this email.  (about 2
> minutes of typing)

Humm... I'm using xemacs, and that one "looses" the cursor (it stays put on
screen, while moving through the file; or dissapears altogether or shows
only as a 1-pixel high line), and the screen refresh lags behind sometimes
(i.e., using mh-e when scrolling the window with the message headers
doesn't scroll the last line until some time later, if at all). xpdf is
also misbehaving, in that paging forward or scrolling updates most of the
screen, but a narrow band at the top and a wide one (varies, from somewhat
less than 1/2 screen to around 1/3 or a character height) at the bottom
isn't updated, or only updated later.

I've been on rawhide on this x86_64 dual core machine from its beginnings
(July or so), intel graphics.
-- 
Dr. Horst H. von Brand                   User #22616 counter.li.org
Departamento de Informatica                    Fono: +56 32 2654431
Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria             +56 32 2654239
Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile 2340000       Fax:  +56 32 2797513



From fedora at leemhuis.info  Tue Oct 14 18:36:03 2008
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:36:03 +0200
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
 now for livna-devel users!
In-Reply-To: <1224005708.3526.8.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>	<1224001187.3526.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>	<gd2k8b$cc0$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1224005708.3526.8.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
Message-ID: <48F4E693.3010507@leemhuis.info>

On 14.10.2008 19:35, Mike Chambers wrote:
 >
> Is rpmfusion going to be Gold once F10 comes out and have everything (or
> just livna or whomever else) ready by then?

RPM Fusion will be announced when it's ready ;-)

But at least for Livna we are past the point of no (easy) return for the 
devel branch afaics, so RPM Fusion kind of "must be ready for F10" ;-)

HTH

CU
knurd



From jonrob at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 14 18:53:57 2008
From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:53:57 +0100
Subject: Yum Upgrade To F10 Beta
In-Reply-To: <43734.198.175.55.5.1224008729.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>
References: <507738ef0810141117g4ec2a05ew9f34cf8aa8598e89@mail.gmail.com>
	<43734.198.175.55.5.1224008729.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>
Message-ID: <507738ef0810141153p1d0856d3j66ab0a5ed2772518@mail.gmail.com>

> Great!  Can you post here?
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq#Version_specific_notes

Done :)
>
> You might be interested in:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/LiveUpgrade

Maybe some day when I have a little more time...

Jon



From ssalevan at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 19:11:00 2008
From: ssalevan at redhat.com (Steven Salevan)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:11:00 -0400
Subject: XO Roll Call: Sign up for XO Testing Teams!
In-Reply-To: <48F4D9A8.7010505@redhat.com>
References: <48F4D9A8.7010505@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F4EEC4.2040301@redhat.com>

I forgot to mention...  if you've got your XO and are part of the 
testing project, you need to sign for for a group or volunteer to lead 
by Friday, October 17th.  Thanks!
-Steve Salevan
ssalevan at redhat.com

Steven Salevan wrote:
> Greetings fellow XO testers,
> It appears that with the new GNOME build the XO has reached a testable 
> state so it's time to start pulling together testing groups.  We will 
> be focusing on 6 major feature areas over the next two weeks:
>
> - Performance
> - Built-in Camera
> - Power Management
> - Networking
> - Display
> - Audio
>
> Since there are ~100 volunteers participating in this project, we 
> realized that some structure might help to both resolve leadership 
> confusion and streamline the test process; hence, we're organizing 
> testing teams for each individual feature area.  There are two major 
> roles in each team:  that of the team lead and that of the team member.
>
> As a team lead, you will have several responsibilities:
> - Coordinate your team's testing efforts
> - Establish a time for and lead regular team IRC meetings
> - Establish some _very_ basic focus point stubs for your feature area 
> on your Wiki page (for a good example, check out 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance)
> - Report testing status bi-weekly for your respective feature area 
> page on the Wiki
> - Ensure that all defects/bugs are filed and those that are already 
> filed block the FedoraOnXo tracker bug
>
> If you'd like to be a team lead, send me an e-mail 
> (ssalevan at redhat.com) with your top 3 feature area interests.  These 
> roles will be meted out on a first-come, first-served basis, so be 
> sure and get those e-mails out as soon as you can.  I'll be heading up 
> the Audio team (known henceforth as 'The Phil Collins Experience'), so 
> if you thoroughly enjoy both the production and generation of sound, 
> you should join my team.  :-P
>
> As a team member, you will have the following responsibilities:
> - Fill in the stubs that your team lead has provided on your feature 
> Wiki page with test cases and append your e-mail to each one you create
> - Test each test case you create on each new Fedora XO build
> - If a test case fails, file a Bugzilla (for a refresher on how to do 
> this, visit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests)
> - If you file a Bugzilla, notify your team lead and update the test 
> case on the Wiki
> - Attend IRC team meetings
> - Come up with a kickass name for your team
>
> So!  If you are part of the XO testing project, you should sign up for 
> one of the groups here:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XO_Test_Roll_Call
>
> If you have any questions or comments regarding this new process, 
> jlaska or I would be glad to answer them.  Otherwise, fire up your new 
> XO, load up the new build, and start rocking out some tests!
> -Steve Salevan
> ssalevan at redhat.com
>



From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 19:52:55 2008
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:52:55 +0000
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:37 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> This is normal.  If you want the grub menu, hold down shift (or any
> other key really).
> 
Well, at least some text suggesting that you might do so would be good,
I thing

> That's the text plugin, yes.  It's not going to progress "smoothly",
> it's ascii art.  We were hoping KMS support would land for Intel chips
> for F10 but it looks like that's not going to happen.
> 
On a similar note, I noticed the progress bar finishes long before the
boot process (I think somewhere around the time services start to
start). This isn't an expected behaviour from user point of view.
Actually it is pretty weird... I've installed readahead (not sure though
if it is enabled, or how to enable it if not) and disabled some unneeded
services which resulted in the progress bar showing up incomplete for
about only a third of the boot process (and completing really fast).
When I look at the real progress after the progress bar is already
finished, I see services starting.

Martin
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From ranger at opennms.org  Tue Oct 14 20:07:05 2008
From: ranger at opennms.org (Benjamin Reed)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:07:05 -0400
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F4FBE9.60409@opennms.org>

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:

> Please, EVERYONE, reinstall Fedora 10 Beta Snap 1 using the precise
> instructions at:

Awesome, thanks!  I'll check it out tonight.

-- 
Benjamin Reed
The OpenNMS Group
http://www.opennms.org/


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From streeter at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 20:14:24 2008
From: streeter at redhat.com (Guy Streeter)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:14:24 -0500
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
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Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> 
> To make this crystal clear:
> 
> Please, EVERYONE, reinstall Fedora 10 Beta Snap 1 using the precise
> instructions at:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card
> 

Do I need to be concerned about:

livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 373: 512 +  + 679 + : syntax error: operand
expected (error token is " ")

--Guy



From rbp at isnomore.net  Tue Oct 14 20:20:21 2008
From: rbp at isnomore.net (Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:20:21 -0300
Subject: XO Roll Call: Sign up for XO Testing Teams!
In-Reply-To: <48F4EEC4.2040301@redhat.com>
References: <48F4D9A8.7010505@redhat.com> <48F4EEC4.2040301@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081014172021.nutqksbhezkgkgks@webmail.isnomore.net>

Steven Salevan <ssalevan at redhat.com> wrote:

> I forgot to mention...  if you've got your XO and are part of the
> testing project, you need to sign for for a group or volunteer to lead
> by Friday, October 17th.  Thanks!

I signed up for getting and testing the XO, was notified that I'd been  
selected, then that the tracking number would soon be sent (I'm  
outside the US). But then I never heard back, got no answers to my  
emails about it, nor got the tracking number. Has this happened to any  
other non-US resident? Have the XOs already been shipped outside the  
US? Am I still in the XO testing program? If I am, I suppose I should  
sign up for a group and wait for the XO to arrive, then...

Cheers,


         rbp
-- 
  http://isnomore.net


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From gdk at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 20:21:52 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:21:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO Roll Call: Sign up for XO Testing Teams!
In-Reply-To: <20081014172021.nutqksbhezkgkgks@webmail.isnomore.net>
References: <48F4D9A8.7010505@redhat.com> <48F4EEC4.2040301@redhat.com>
	<20081014172021.nutqksbhezkgkgks@webmail.isnomore.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141621230.10767@localhost.localdomain>


On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel wrote:

> Steven Salevan <ssalevan at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> I forgot to mention...  if you've got your XO and are part of the
>> testing project, you need to sign for for a group or volunteer to lead
>> by Friday, October 17th.  Thanks!
>
> I signed up for getting and testing the XO, was notified that I'd been 
> selected, then that the tracking number would soon be sent (I'm outside the 
> US). But then I never heard back, got no answers to my emails about it, nor 
> got the tracking number. Has this happened to any other non-US resident? Have 
> the XOs already been shipped outside the US? Am I still in the XO testing 
> program? If I am, I suppose I should sign up for a group and wait for the XO 
> to arrive, then...

I still do not have the tracking numbers for non-US shipments.  As soon as 
I have them, I will provide them to all.

--g



From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 20:34:55 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:34:55 -0400
Subject: 2008-10-16 - Fedora Test Day - Security Audit and Better LIRC
	Support
Message-ID: <1224016495.7420.56.camel@flatline>

Greetings folks,

I'd like to invite testers and users to join #fedora-qa this Thursday,
October 16, 2008.  Testing efforts will focus on:

      * Security Audit
      * Better LIRC Support
      * Fedora 10 Beta snapshot#1 

Come with questions, bug reports, and/or suggested test areas.

More details will be posted to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-16.

See you there,
James
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From jlaska at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 20:42:41 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:42:41 -0400
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
In-Reply-To: <48F4FDA0.1000702@redhat.com>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
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Message-ID: <1224016961.7420.60.camel@flatline>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 15:14 -0500, Guy Streeter wrote:
> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> > 
> > To make this crystal clear:
> > 
> > Please, EVERYONE, reinstall Fedora 10 Beta Snap 1 using the precise
> > instructions at:
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card
> > 
> 
> Do I need to be concerned about:
> 
> livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 373: 512 +  + 679 + : syntax error: operand
> expected (error token is " ")

Jeremy was going to take a look at that this afternoon (see ).  

[_drj2] on #fedora-qa noted the workaround is to add "--swap-size-mb 0"
to your command-line until a fix is available.

Thanks,
James
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From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 20:43:57 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:43:57 -0400
Subject: audio pops and snaps?
In-Reply-To: <48F4E15F.1070806@camerontech.com>
References: <48F406A4.9060800@camerontech.com>
	<1223954576.13861.35.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<48F4E15F.1070806@camerontech.com>
Message-ID: <1224017037.13861.60.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:13 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > The "pops" are ALSA initializing the sound card as PulseAudio opens it
> > for playback. PA closes the audio device after a short period with no
> > output.
> 
> That's great to know, but how do I fix it?  It is not an enjoyable 
> multi-media experience.  ;-)

It's not something you can fix per se. You can log a bug report against
the kernel though, mentioning that it's a regression.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 20:47:56 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:47:56 +0200
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
	now for livna-devel users!
In-Reply-To: <48F4E693.3010507@leemhuis.info>
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
	<1224001187.3526.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
	<gd2k8b$cc0$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1224005708.3526.8.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>
	<48F4E693.3010507@leemhuis.info>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810141347o267dcd57v26a39ab9600b351f@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/14 Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora at leemhuis.info>:
> On 14.10.2008 19:35, Mike Chambers wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is rpmfusion going to be Gold once F10 comes out and have everything (or
>> just livna or whomever else) ready by then?
>
> RPM Fusion will be announced when it's ready ;-)
>
> But at least for Livna we are past the point of no (easy) return for the
> devel branch afaics, so RPM Fusion kind of "must be ready for F10" ;-)
>
> HTH
>
> CU
> knurd
>
> --
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

where can we report bug for Rpmfusion?? I notice a regression in
performance of VLC...just to begin. :-)

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com  Tue Oct 14 20:58:05 2008
From: dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com (dave yates)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:58:05 -0400
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>

For those of us who purchased the two gig card, If we are unable to purchase
a 4 gig card in a timely matter, what then? Do we need to return the XO?
I will be purchasing a 4 gig card ASAP, but it will prolly be the middle of
next week before that happens.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:

>
> Hello all.
>
> In the initial instructions for XO testers, we asked people to get 2gig
> cards and 4gig cards.
>
> The hope was that 2gig cards would be sufficient, but we needed to test
> that hope.  It now appears that our hope was in vain: the 4gig cards are a
> necessity.
>
> For those of you who purchased the 2gig SD cards, thanks for your
> sacrifice.  Now we know.  :)  If you would like to continue to test Fedora
> on XO, it will be necessary to upgrade to 4gig SD cards.
>
> --g
>
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>
>  Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> To make this crystal clear:
>>>
>>> Please, EVERYONE, reinstall Fedora 10 Beta Snap 1 using the precise
>>> instructions at:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card
>>>
>>
>> And to be clear, these steps will not work with a 2 gig card. So.. is the
>> expectation for all of us to go out and get 4 gig cards?
>>
>> -- bk
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>>
> --
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> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



-- 
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blog: http://lottalinuxlinks.com/blog
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From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 21:00:32 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:00:32 -0500
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224018032.3104.4.camel@cambridge-laptop>

I am in a similar situation.  I was initially going to purchase a 4 gig
card but then I saw it was recommended to purchase a 2 gig.  Since I've
used it I am no longer able to return it.

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:58 -0400, dave yates wrote:
> For those of us who purchased the two gig card, If we are unable to
> purchase a 4 gig card in a timely matter, what then? Do we need to
> return the XO?
> I will be purchasing a 4 gig card ASAP, but it will prolly be the
> middle of next week before that happens.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>         
>         Hello all.
>         
>         In the initial instructions for XO testers, we asked people to
>         get 2gig cards and 4gig cards.
>         
>         The hope was that 2gig cards would be sufficient, but we
>         needed to test that hope.  It now appears that our hope was in
>         vain: the 4gig cards are a necessity.
>         
>         For those of you who purchased the 2gig SD cards, thanks for
>         your sacrifice.  Now we know.  :)  If you would like to
>         continue to test Fedora on XO, it will be necessary to upgrade
>         to 4gig SD cards.
>         
>         --g
>         
>         On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>         
>                 Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>                         
>                         To make this crystal clear:
>                         
>                         Please, EVERYONE, reinstall Fedora 10 Beta
>                         Snap 1 using the precise instructions at:
>                         
>                         https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card 
>                 
>                 And to be clear, these steps will not work with a 2
>                 gig card. So.. is the expectation for all of us to go
>                 out and get 4 gig cards?
>                 
>                 -- bk
>                 
>                 -- 
>                 fedora-test-list mailing list
>                 fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>                 To unsubscribe:
>                 https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>                 
>         
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>         https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> 
> 
> 
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> podcast: http://lottalinuxlinks.com/podcast
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From gdk at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 20:59:35 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:59:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
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	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, dave yates wrote:

> For those of us who purchased the two gig card, If we are unable to
> purchase a 4 gig card in a timely matter, what then? Do we need to return
> the XO?
> I will be purchasing a 4 gig card ASAP, but it will prolly be the middle
> of next week before that happens.

Feel free to keep the XO and join in the testing whenever your schedule 
permits.  Also, it's entirely possible that the testing effort will run 
into November.

--g



From dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com  Tue Oct 14 21:06:15 2008
From: dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com (dave yates)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:06:15 -0400
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <db34c1810810141406g366809bcu5d81ce3dcebb7e23@mail.gmail.com>

cool! I will purchase a 4 gig card as soon as I am able.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, dave yates wrote:
>
>  For those of us who purchased the two gig card, If we are unable to
>> purchase a 4 gig card in a timely matter, what then? Do we need to return
>> the XO?
>> I will be purchasing a 4 gig card ASAP, but it will prolly be the middle
>> of next week before that happens.
>>
>
> Feel free to keep the XO and join in the testing whenever your schedule
> permits.  Also, it's entirely possible that the testing effort will run into
> November.
>
> --g
>
>
> --
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> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



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blog: http://lottalinuxlinks.com/blog
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From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 21:14:18 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:14:18 -0500
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1224018858.3104.14.camel@cambridge-laptop>

So there's no need for the 2 gig cards at all then?  If the place where
I bought my card can't take it back or give me store credit then I won't
be able to get a card for a while as I'm a poor grad student.  Should I
send the XO back in that case?

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:59 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, dave yates wrote:
> 
> > For those of us who purchased the two gig card, If we are unable to
> > purchase a 4 gig card in a timely matter, what then? Do we need to return
> > the XO?
> > I will be purchasing a 4 gig card ASAP, but it will prolly be the middle
> > of next week before that happens.
> 
> Feel free to keep the XO and join in the testing whenever your schedule 
> permits.  Also, it's entirely possible that the testing effort will run 
> into November.
> 
> --g
> 



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 21:25:43 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:25:43 +0100
Subject: XO Roll Call: Sign up for XO Testing Teams!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141621230.10767@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48F4D9A8.7010505@redhat.com> <48F4EEC4.2040301@redhat.com>
	<20081014172021.nutqksbhezkgkgks@webmail.isnomore.net>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141621230.10767@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810141425r4994f23em4df2b546b3d9418@mail.gmail.com>

>>> I forgot to mention...  if you've got your XO and are part of the
>>> testing project, you need to sign for for a group or volunteer to lead
>>> by Friday, October 17th.  Thanks!
>>
>> I signed up for getting and testing the XO, was notified that I'd been
>> selected, then that the tracking number would soon be sent (I'm outside the
>> US). But then I never heard back, got no answers to my emails about it, nor
>> got the tracking number. Has this happened to any other non-US resident?
>> Have the XOs already been shipped outside the US? Am I still in the XO
>> testing program? If I am, I suppose I should sign up for a group and wait
>> for the XO to arrive, then...
>
> I still do not have the tracking numbers for non-US shipments.  As soon as I
> have them, I will provide them to all.

Hi Greg,

Thanks for the update, its good to realise that I wasn't going
completely mad when work told me nothing had arrived.

Peter



From arch at tuparks.com  Tue Oct 14 21:28:18 2008
From: arch at tuparks.com (Arch Willingham)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:28:18 -0400
Subject: Ndiswrapper working with F10?
Message-ID: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543378074A87@hall.tup.com>

I have the beta of F10 working on a desktop at the office.....it works great. I thought I'd give it a shot on my laptop. My laptop currently runs F9 and ndiswrapper which it gets from the repository. Does anyone have F10 working with Ndiswrapper?

Thanks!

Arch
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 21:50:17 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:50:17 +0200
Subject: graphical tool for repo management
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810141450p4924b15bk72e8ff0483db4447@mail.gmail.com>

I was sure that there is a graphical tool for activation/deactivation
of yum repo of any system..
Which is the package???

Tnx

-- 
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Skype : antoniomontag



From wwoods at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 21:52:12 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:52:12 -0400
Subject: graphical tool for repo management
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810141450p4924b15bk72e8ff0483db4447@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810141450p4924b15bk72e8ff0483db4447@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224021132.4873.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 23:50 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> I was sure that there is a graphical tool for activation/deactivation
> of yum repo of any system..
> Which is the package???

System->Administration->Software Sources

That's gpk-repo, from gnome-packagekit. 

-w



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Tue Oct 14 21:56:15 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:56:15 +0200
Subject: Ndiswrapper working with F10?
In-Reply-To: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543378074A87@hall.tup.com>
References: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543378074A87@hall.tup.com>
Message-ID: <48F5157F.10409@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Arch Willingham wrote:
>
> I have the beta of F10 working on a desktop at the office?..it works 
> great. I thought I?d give it a shot on my laptop. My laptop currently 
> runs F9 and ndiswrapper which it gets from the repository. Does anyone 
> have F10 working with Ndiswrapper?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Arch
>
On my dell d620 I needed run b43-cutter to install the firmware. I 
assume that it is Ndiswrapper that is making my wireless work.



From bashton at brennanashton.com  Tue Oct 14 21:30:17 2008
From: bashton at brennanashton.com (Brennan Ashton)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:30:17 -0800
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-14
In-Reply-To: <48F4DB6C.2020302@redhat.com>
References: <48F4DB6C.2020302@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <981da310810141430q60845e09ga2b34947258566d7@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:48 AM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-14
>
> Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.
>
> == Attendees ==
> * jlaska
> * ke4qqq
> * poelcat
> * jds2001
>
> == Last Week Followups ==
> * jds2001 reports that FTBS is resolved
> * poelcat reports that FEver is still in process
> * poelcat to update BugZapper's wiki with bullets on why bug triage is important to Fedora
> ** we have great information about the '''how''' of bug triage, but not the '''why''' or '''so what'''
> * no update from comphappy on greasemonkey scripts

I got the Feature Requests for the GS scripts, but have not had the
time to implement them yet. I should have the changes implemented some
time tonight.



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 21:58:39 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:58:39 -0500
Subject: Ndiswrapper working with F10?
In-Reply-To: <48F5157F.10409@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543378074A87@hall.tup.com>
	<48F5157F.10409@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <1224021519.3104.56.camel@cambridge-laptop>

b43-fwcutter is different then ndiswrapper.  b43-fwcutter extracts
firmware using the b43 module whereas ndiswrapper uses the windows
driver and the ndiswrapper module.  i could test ndiswrapper later today
if no one knows (i'm using b43 myself).
c

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 23:56 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
> Arch Willingham wrote:
> >
> > I have the beta of F10 working on a desktop at the office?..it works 
> > great. I thought I?d give it a shot on my laptop. My laptop currently 
> > runs F9 and ndiswrapper which it gets from the repository. Does anyone 
> > have F10 working with Ndiswrapper?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Arch
> >
> On my dell d620 I needed run b43-cutter to install the firmware. I 
> assume that it is Ndiswrapper that is making my wireless work.
> 



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 22:01:01 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:01:01 +0200
Subject: graphical tool for repo management
In-Reply-To: <1224021132.4873.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4c37b6af0810141450p4924b15bk72e8ff0483db4447@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224021132.4873.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810141501n9a8cc39t47308b58feef59a1@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/14 Will Woods <wwoods at redhat.com>:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 23:50 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
>> I was sure that there is a graphical tool for activation/deactivation
>> of yum repo of any system..
>> Which is the package???
>
> System->Administration->Software Sources
>
> That's gpk-repo, from gnome-packagekit.
>
> -w
>
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>
great Will

Installed....I am not sure but some upgrade disinstalled it

Tnx again


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 22:02:56 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:02:56 +0200
Subject: Rpmfusion
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810141502j513a3cech1543b00377cf1bdf@mail.gmail.com>

I have switched from livna to Rpmfusion.
Sound with VLC is poor after upgrading (I guess connected to ffmpeg)
How can I report any bug???



-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From arch at tuparks.com  Tue Oct 14 22:09:58 2008
From: arch at tuparks.com (Arch Willingham)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:09:58 -0400
Subject: Ndiswrapper working with F10?
In-Reply-To: <1224021519.3104.56.camel@cambridge-laptop>
References: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543378074A87@hall.tup.com>
	<48F5157F.10409@shmuelhome.mine.nu>,
	<1224021519.3104.56.camel@cambridge-laptop>
Message-ID: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF85433780A17E7@hall.tup.com>

I have tried the b43-fwcutter thing on and off through the years, I never could get it to work. That's how I started using ndiswrapper. If you get a chance to try it, it would be great!

Arch
________________________________________
From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Christopher David Desjardins [cddesjardins at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:58 PM
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
Subject: Re: Ndiswrapper working with F10?

b43-fwcutter is different then ndiswrapper.  b43-fwcutter extracts
firmware using the b43 module whereas ndiswrapper uses the windows
driver and the ndiswrapper module.  i could test ndiswrapper later today
if no one knows (i'm using b43 myself).
c

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 23:56 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
> Arch Willingham wrote:
> >
> > I have the beta of F10 working on a desktop at the office?..it works
> > great. I thought I?d give it a shot on my laptop. My laptop currently
> > runs F9 and ndiswrapper which it gets from the repository. Does anyone
> > have F10 working with Ndiswrapper?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Arch
> >
> On my dell d620 I needed run b43-cutter to install the firmware. I
> assume that it is Ndiswrapper that is making my wireless work.
>

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From kwizart at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 22:15:03 2008
From: kwizart at gmail.com (KH KH)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:15:03 +0200
Subject: Rpmfusion
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810141502j513a3cech1543b00377cf1bdf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810141502j513a3cech1543b00377cf1bdf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e1760170810141515u39e9b0abo13359b55b888b15f@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> I have switched from livna to Rpmfusion.
> Sound with VLC is poor after upgrading (I guess connected to ffmpeg)
> How can I report any bug???
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org
But you will need to be more verbose and not to try to answear
question before asking
(like you have just done assuming it was a ffmpeg/vlc interaction
without saying which hardware/ which sound server/which kernel).
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
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From gdk at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 22:30:00 2008
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:30:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <1224018858.3104.14.camel@cambridge-laptop>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<1224018858.3104.14.camel@cambridge-laptop>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141827220.10767@localhost.localdomain>


On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Christopher David Desjardins wrote:

> So there's no need for the 2 gig cards at all then?  If the place where
> I bought my card can't take it back or give me store credit then I won't
> be able to get a card for a while as I'm a poor grad student.  Should I
> send the XO back in that case?

Absolutely do not send the XO back.  Any mistake/misunderstanding 
regarding the SD card is ours.  Fair is fair.

If you're looking to be useful with the XO in the absence of a 4Gig card, 
you can always test the latest Sugar release that will ship natively on 
the XO:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing

--g



From dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com  Tue Oct 14 22:54:06 2008
From: dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com (dave yates)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:54:06 -0400
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141827220.10767@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<1224018858.3104.14.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141827220.10767@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <db34c1810810141554y743fe744ue93beecc726f7dba@mail.gmail.com>

Already tried the latest sugar--very nice

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
>
>  So there's no need for the 2 gig cards at all then?  If the place where
>> I bought my card can't take it back or give me store credit then I won't
>> be able to get a card for a while as I'm a poor grad student.  Should I
>> send the XO back in that case?
>>
>
> Absolutely do not send the XO back.  Any mistake/misunderstanding regarding
> the SD card is ours.  Fair is fair.
>
> If you're looking to be useful with the XO in the absence of a 4Gig card,
> you can always test the latest Sugar release that will ship natively on the
> XO:
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing
>
>
> --g
>
> --
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From arch at tuparks.com  Tue Oct 14 23:16:29 2008
From: arch at tuparks.com (Arch Willingham)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:16:29 -0400
Subject: Using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia with F10?
Message-ID: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF85433780A17ED@hall.tup.com>

I just noticed a posting about switching from livna to Rpmfusion. I have never used any other extra repository except Livna. When I saw the mention of Rpmfusion I looked it up and its sounds like it is replacing livna...am I right? With F10 are we supposed to start using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia? How do you do it during the beta of F10?

Thanks!

Arch



From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com  Tue Oct 14 23:23:20 2008
From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:23:20 -0500
Subject: audio pops and snaps?
In-Reply-To: <1224017037.13861.60.camel@ignacio.lan>
References: <48F406A4.9060800@camerontech.com>	<1223954576.13861.35.camel@ignacio.lan>	<48F4E15F.1070806@camerontech.com>
	<1224017037.13861.60.camel@ignacio.lan>
Message-ID: <48F529E8.5030302@camerontech.com>

Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:13 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
>>> The "pops" are ALSA initializing the sound card as PulseAudio opens it
>>> for playback. PA closes the audio device after a short period with no
>>> output.
>> That's great to know, but how do I fix it?  It is not an enjoyable 
>> multi-media experience.  ;-)
> 
> It's not something you can fix per se. You can log a bug report against
> the kernel though, mentioning that it's a regression.

BZ 466840 filed.  I filed it against pulseaudio, Jeff Bastian updated it 
and said it is really ALSA.  Are you saying it should be kernel?

TC

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From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Tue Oct 14 23:23:36 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:23:36 +0200
Subject: NetworkManager-vpnc broken after 4175 update?
Message-ID: <48F529F8.3000505@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Hi,

Did an update to Rawhide yesterday or maybe the day before. One of the 
updates was NetworkManager & -pptp. Since then NM vpnc seems broken. 
When I click add -> Cisco Compatible VPN (vpnc) -> create then the 
window just disappears and nothing happens. Anyone seen this before? 
Known issue?

Thanks,
Patrick



From jkeating at redhat.com  Tue Oct 14 23:28:42 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:28:42 -0700
Subject: NetworkManager-vpnc broken after 4175 update?
In-Reply-To: <48F529F8.3000505@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
References: <48F529F8.3000505@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <1224026922.4122.38.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 01:23 +0200, Patrick wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Did an update to Rawhide yesterday or maybe the day before. One of the 
> updates was NetworkManager & -pptp. Since then NM vpnc seems broken. 
> When I click add -> Cisco Compatible VPN (vpnc) -> create then the 
> window just disappears and nothing happens. Anyone seen this before? 
> Known issue?
> 
> Thanks,
> Patrick
> 

It was being worked on today, should be fixed in tomorrow's rawhide
updates.

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From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Tue Oct 14 23:31:47 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:31:47 +0200
Subject: NetworkManager-vpnc broken after 4175 update?
In-Reply-To: <1224026922.4122.38.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <48F529F8.3000505@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<1224026922.4122.38.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F52BE3.80708@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 01:23 +0200, Patrick wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Did an update to Rawhide yesterday or maybe the day before. One of the 
>> updates was NetworkManager & -pptp. Since then NM vpnc seems broken. 
>> When I click add -> Cisco Compatible VPN (vpnc) -> create then the 
>> window just disappears and nothing happens. Anyone seen this before? 
>> Known issue?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Patrick
>> 
> 
> It was being worked on today, should be fixed in tomorrow's rawhide
> updates.

Thank you for your quick reply. I'll look forward to trying NM-vpnc 
again once the update lands.

Regards,
Patrick



From john5342 at googlemail.com  Tue Oct 14 23:46:35 2008
From: john5342 at googlemail.com (John5342)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:46:35 +0100
Subject: audio pops and snaps?
In-Reply-To: <48F529E8.5030302@camerontech.com>
References: <48F406A4.9060800@camerontech.com>
	<1223954576.13861.35.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<48F4E15F.1070806@camerontech.com>
	<1224017037.13861.60.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<48F529E8.5030302@camerontech.com>
Message-ID: <6dc6523c0810141646l1909e61dl4b4140c08815ee98@mail.gmail.com>

I am also getting this same bug except i am using f9. Been happening to me
through the whole of f9. Using the same CK804 AC'97. It also pops during
device initialization during boot before pulseaudio. For that reason i would
suggest it is kernel or alsa as opposed to pulseaudio. I also know for fact
this wasnt happening in f8 for me. Would have reported it sooner myself but
never got around to it. Adding my comments to bz.

2008/10/15 Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron at camerontech.com>

> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:13 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "pops" are ALSA initializing the sound card as PulseAudio opens it
>>>> for playback. PA closes the audio device after a short period with no
>>>> output.
>>>>
>>> That's great to know, but how do I fix it?  It is not an enjoyable
>>> multi-media experience.  ;-)
>>>
>>
>> It's not something you can fix per se. You can log a bug report against
>> the kernel though, mentioning that it's a regression.
>>
>
> BZ 466840 filed.  I filed it against pulseaudio, Jeff Bastian updated it
> and said it is really ALSA.  Are you saying it should be kernel?
>
> TC
>
>
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From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 23:48:14 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:48:14 -0400
Subject: audio pops and snaps?
In-Reply-To: <48F529E8.5030302@camerontech.com>
References: <48F406A4.9060800@camerontech.com>
	<1223954576.13861.35.camel@ignacio.lan>	<48F4E15F.1070806@camerontech.com>
	<1224017037.13861.60.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<48F529E8.5030302@camerontech.com>
Message-ID: <1224028094.13861.63.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 18:23 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:13 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> >> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> >>> The "pops" are ALSA initializing the sound card as PulseAudio opens it
> >>> for playback. PA closes the audio device after a short period with no
> >>> output.
> >> That's great to know, but how do I fix it?  It is not an enjoyable 
> >> multi-media experience.  ;-)
> > 
> > It's not something you can fix per se. You can log a bug report against
> > the kernel though, mentioning that it's a regression.
> 
> BZ 466840 filed.  I filed it against pulseaudio, Jeff Bastian updated it 
> and said it is really ALSA.  Are you saying it should be kernel?

The ALSA drivers are in the kernel package, so yes.

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From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Tue Oct 14 23:52:02 2008
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:52:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EB97E0.9070103@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <loom.20081014T234840-927@post.gmane.org>

Benjamin Reed <ranger <at> opennms.org> writes:
> I got mine, thanks!

Aren't you the KDE/Mac guy? ;-)

Any chance you can test the Fedora KDE spin on the XO for us? According to 
http://katzj.livejournal.com/440811.html the Snap1 images from 
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ should work without special OLPC tweaking. Of 
course, KDE might run out of RAM or something, but that's what we need testing 
for. ;-)

Your friendly Fedora KDE SIG member,
        Kevin Kofler



From malines at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 00:13:05 2008
From: malines at gmail.com (Marcus Lines)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:13:05 -0400
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1) Error booting XO
Message-ID: <7e77221c0810141713q5af310c2u70f6bca2a2b08564@mail.gmail.com>

Following today's precise instructions (
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card
):

When I boot with the SD card installed I get the following error
Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\olpc.fth Arguments:
<buffer at ff839869>:0: Unrecognized program format

-Marcus
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From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 01:03:06 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:03:06 -0400
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <1224018858.3104.14.camel@cambridge-laptop>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<1224018858.3104.14.camel@cambridge-laptop>
Message-ID: <48F5414A.1020500@redhat.com>

Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> So there's no need for the 2 gig cards at all then?  If the place where
> I bought my card can't take it back or give me store credit then I won't
> be able to get a card for a while as I'm a poor grad student.  Should I
> send the XO back in that case?


FWIW... Circuit City took it back.. no questions asked.

-- bk



From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 01:35:53 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:35:53 -0400
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1) Error booting XO
In-Reply-To: <7e77221c0810141713q5af310c2u70f6bca2a2b08564@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e77221c0810141713q5af310c2u70f6bca2a2b08564@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224034553.12340.118.camel@aglarond.local>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 20:13 -0400, Marcus Lines wrote:
> Following today's precise instructions
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card):
> 
> When I boot with the SD card installed I get the following error
> Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\olpc.fth Arguments:
> <buffer at ff839869>:0: Unrecognized program format

If you remount the SD card on your other machine, can you read
boot/olpc.fth off the disk?  Any errors in dmesg?

Jeremy




From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 01:49:21 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:49:21 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
Message-ID: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>

Success (well..alot more)

- pulled down the latest
- Ran the following
./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
512 --swap-size-mb 0 F10-Snap1-i686-Live/F10-Snap1-i686-Live.iso /dev/sdb1

And Viola!:
http://picasaweb.google.com/bryan.kearney/Olpc#5257190341949578050


Couple of comments:

1) GDK has not updated his blog
2) The initial boot is very slow, with no feedback (no hotdog man)
3) many windows are much snappier.
4) new windows such as font preferences and terminal preferences are 
painfully slow (the latter is going on 5 mins)
5) Still get kernel panic at the beginning

But.. much further along.

-- bk



From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 02:04:26 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:04:26 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224036266.12340.125.camel@aglarond.local>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 21:49 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> 1) GDK has not updated his blog

Heh -- I updated mine :)

> 2) The initial boot is very slow, with no feedback (no hotdog man)

Slow isn't entirely unexpected.  The fact that the progress bar finishes
with the text plugin before we're done is something that might need some
general plymouth looking at.  And we're getting the text plugin due to a
dependency loop (again).  *sigh*

> 3) many windows are much snappier.

Yep, should be.  And there are some bugs in the geode driver that
upstream was looking at getting us a fix for soon which should help even
more

> 4) new windows such as font preferences and terminal preferences are 
> painfully slow (the latter is going on 5 mins)

Is this when you already have a lot of things running?

> 5) Still get kernel panic at the beginning

I haven't actually seen this on the FedoraOnXO deptree... can someone
file it against the kernel and have it block the tracker?

Jeremy



From msolberg at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 02:14:11 2008
From: msolberg at redhat.com (Michael Solberg)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:14:11 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224036851.6033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>


On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 21:49 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Couple of comments:
> 
> 1) GDK has not updated his blog
> 2) The initial boot is very slow, with no feedback (no hotdog man)
> 3) many windows are much snappier.
> 4) new windows such as font preferences and terminal preferences are 
> painfully slow (the latter is going on 5 mins)
> 5) Still get kernel panic at the beginning

It's also worth noting that the few of us on #fedora-qa testing the new
images tonight were all still getting hard lock-ups of our systems after
a few minutes of usage.  This seems unrelated to memory - I still had
plenty of swap left at least once when it froze up.  It almost seems
like an X problem.  Sometimes the system freezes, but I can still move
the mouse.  I can't kill X with <ctl>-<alt>-<backspace> or switch to a
virtual terminal when that happens.

Michael.




From zoo at stpaulterminal.org  Wed Oct 15 02:13:59 2008
From: zoo at stpaulterminal.org (david d zuhn)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:13:59 -0500
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
In-Reply-To: <1224016961.7420.60.camel@flatline>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4FDA0.1000702@redhat.com> <1224016961.7420.60.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <253b7410810141913k2a04e10eq18a8ca9f22dabf1f@mail.gmail.com>

>> livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 373: 512 +  + 679 + : syntax error: operand
>> expected (error token is " ")
>
> Jeremy was going to take a look at that this afternoon (see ).

I've done a patch to the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script which solves
this problem (and a similar one for another variable).   I'm running
this on a LiveCD installation of F10-beta on i386:

http://stpaulterminal.org/olpc/livecd-sizepatch.diff

with a full copy of the script at:

http://stpaulterminal.org/olpc/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh


With this patch I was able to run the script exactly as called out on the wiki.



-- 
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zoo @ stpaulterminal.org



From zoo at stpaulterminal.org  Wed Oct 15 02:27:04 2008
From: zoo at stpaulterminal.org (david d zuhn)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:27:04 -0500
Subject: XO: kernel oops at boot time
Message-ID: <253b7410810141927y3063357cl1a0b256d5dcdf4f8@mail.gmail.com>

With the F10-Snap1-i686-Live image on a 4GB SD card, there's a couple
of problems during the boot & initial login:

While the screen is blank and a progress bar is filling up across the
bottom, the tail end of a message is visible about 60% of the way
through the bar.   From the messages file, I believe it's:

Invalid iomem size. You may experience problems.

but it's hard to be sure since all I get a chance to see is 'ience problems.'.

Then immediately after I log in, I'm presented with a kernel oops
dialog and a chance to report it to kernel.org.

dmesg & syslog output saved here:

http://stpaulterminal.org/olpc/boot-oops-20081014/dmesg.out  (output from dmesg)
http://stpaulterminal.org/olpc/boot-oops-20081014/messages  (/var/log/messages)



-- 
david d zuhn  Saint Paul Bridge & Terminal Ry.
zoo @ stpaulterminal.org



From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 02:44:33 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:44:33 -0400
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
In-Reply-To: <253b7410810141913k2a04e10eq18a8ca9f22dabf1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4FDA0.1000702@redhat.com> <1224016961.7420.60.camel@flatline>
	<253b7410810141913k2a04e10eq18a8ca9f22dabf1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224038673.12340.126.camel@aglarond.local>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 21:13 -0500, david d zuhn wrote:
> >> livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 373: 512 +  + 679 + : syntax error: operand
> >> expected (error token is " ")
> >
> > Jeremy was going to take a look at that this afternoon (see ).
> 
> I've done a patch to the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script which solves
> this problem (and a similar one for another variable).   I'm running
> this on a LiveCD installation of F10-beta on i386:
> 
> http://stpaulterminal.org/olpc/livecd-sizepatch.diff

Looks good.  Applied and updated the copy on my fedorapeople page.
Thanks for the patch!

Jeremy



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 15 03:05:38 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:05:38 -0400
Subject: graphical tool for repo management
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810141450p4924b15bk72e8ff0483db4447@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810141450p4924b15bk72e8ff0483db4447@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224039938.21581.3.camel@rosebud>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 23:50 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> I was sure that there is a graphical tool for activation/deactivation
> of yum repo of any system..
> Which is the package???
> 

yum install repoman

I believe it is still available and it might even work.

-sv




From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Wed Oct 15 03:08:01 2008
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:08:01 -0400
Subject: LED options in kernel (or sysctl)
Message-ID: <20081015030801.GA28202@mail.scottro.net>

In the 2.6.26-x kernels, there were two sysctl options that enabled me
to get blinking LED's with my wireless.

They were dev.wifi.0.ledpin and dev.wifi0.softled

I've been looking through the 2.6.27 kernel (including the vanilla ones
from kernel.org) and haven't been able to find the replacement if one
exists.  
It's a fairly trivial thing, and I think it was more than a fair trade
to get support for the AR5007EG cards in return for losing the LED but
I'm curious if there are options--I'm not a programmer, so I'm guessing
it's been replaced with something that I'm missing.

Thanks for any input. 


-- 
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PGP keyID EB3467D6
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gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Xander: All right, where is he? Where's the creep who turned me 
into a spider-eating man-bitch? 
Buffy: He's gone. 
Xander: Dammit. You know what? I'm sick of this. I'm tired of 
being the guy who eats insects and gets the funny syphilis. As 
of this moment, it's over. I'm through being everybody's 
butt-monkey! 
Buffy: Check. No more butt-monkey. 



From malines at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 03:13:51 2008
From: malines at gmail.com (Marcus Lines)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:13:51 -0400
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1) Error booting XO
In-Reply-To: <1224034553.12340.118.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <7e77221c0810141713q5af310c2u70f6bca2a2b08564@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224034553.12340.118.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <7e77221c0810142013h53919220y636aff1656a0b5c8@mail.gmail.com>

I reformatted the SD card and let the script run.  It was successful in
booting up.  Thank you for your help.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 20:13 -0400, Marcus Lines wrote:
> > Following today's precise instructions
> > (
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card
> ):
> >
> > When I boot with the SD card installed I get the following error
> > Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\olpc.fth Arguments:
> > <buffer at ff839869>:0: Unrecognized program format
>
> If you remount the SD card on your other machine, can you read
> boot/olpc.fth off the disk?  Any errors in dmesg?
>
> Jeremy
>
>
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From dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com  Wed Oct 15 03:33:50 2008
From: dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com (dave yates)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:33:50 -0400
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <48F5414A.1020500@redhat.com>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>
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	<48F5414A.1020500@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <db34c1810810142033h276edd83t8f8c8f5102c4e783@mail.gmail.com>

In the meantime, until I get my 4 gig card, I went ahead and installed
openbox/lzpanel on the olpc. It's nice AND fast.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:

> Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
>
>> So there's no need for the 2 gig cards at all then?  If the place where
>> I bought my card can't take it back or give me store credit then I won't
>> be able to get a card for a while as I'm a poor grad student.  Should I
>> send the XO back in that case?
>>
>
>
> FWIW... Circuit City took it back.. no questions asked.
>
> -- bk
>
>
> --
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 05:04:34 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:04:34 +0200
Subject: Rpmfusion
In-Reply-To: <e1760170810141515u39e9b0abo13359b55b888b15f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810141502j513a3cech1543b00377cf1bdf@mail.gmail.com>
	<e1760170810141515u39e9b0abo13359b55b888b15f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810142204i6778e7f4g28c9ab718990d919@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 KH KH <kwizart at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> I have switched from livna to Rpmfusion.
>> Sound with VLC is poor after upgrading (I guess connected to ffmpeg)
>> How can I report any bug???
> http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org
> But you will need to be more verbose and not to try to answear
> question before asking
> (like you have just done assuming it was a ffmpeg/vlc interaction
> without saying which hardware/ which sound server/which kernel).
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
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>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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>

it is why I asked the place to report a bug, otherwise this list might
become a bug list for Rpmfusion.
Anyway, for better understanding, yesterday night I switched from
Livna to Rpmfusion and all available updates were done on two systems,
one laptop running Intel ICh8 chip and the desktop running ICH5 ..

Before upgrading VLC was great, after I noticed that sound was
degraded...but I have to dig, as I rebooted the laptop it seems
o.k....I have no time now to start the desktop as I have to go to the
office now, I will report in ten hours....in any case the question is
about the bug place for Rpmfusion.

Great job

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 05:22:14 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:22:14 +0200
Subject: Rpmfusion
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810142204i6778e7f4g28c9ab718990d919@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810141502j513a3cech1543b00377cf1bdf@mail.gmail.com>
	<e1760170810141515u39e9b0abo13359b55b888b15f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810142204i6778e7f4g28c9ab718990d919@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810142222v2e054489o54cb7a2a7149fb4b@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/15 KH KH <kwizart at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> I have switched from livna to Rpmfusion.
>>> Sound with VLC is poor after upgrading (I guess connected to ffmpeg)
>>> How can I report any bug???
>> http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org
>> But you will need to be more verbose and not to try to answear
>> question before asking
>> (like you have just done assuming it was a ffmpeg/vlc interaction
>> without saying which hardware/ which sound server/which kernel).
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>
>>> --
>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> To unsubscribe:
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>
>>
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>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
> it is why I asked the place to report a bug, otherwise this list might
> become a bug list for Rpmfusion.
> Anyway, for better understanding, yesterday night I switched from
> Livna to Rpmfusion and all available updates were done on two systems,
> one laptop running Intel ICh8 chip and the desktop running ICH5 ..
>
> Before upgrading VLC was great, after I noticed that sound was
> degraded...but I have to dig, as I rebooted the laptop it seems
> o.k....I have no time now to start the desktop as I have to go to the
> office now, I will report in ten hours....in any case the question is
> about the bug place for Rpmfusion.
>
> Great job
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

so..laptop seems o,k, but desktop's sound in VLC with AC97 controller
and using snd-intel8x0 driver is poor, there is small glitches and
some echo.(and it was o.k. before switching from Livna to..
laptop is using snd_hda_intel, both  2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 kernel.....


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Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Wed Oct 15 06:21:20 2008
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:21:20 +1100
Subject: Fedora 10 + Nvidia 6100 go fails with proprietary drivers
In-Reply-To: <6dc6523c0810140428u1e228c7bsefd1f384cfcb9ec0@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 12:28 +0100, John5342 wrote:
> >I think rather you need the legacy 96xx driver, which is packaged by
> Livna.
> Actually if we are still talking about the 6100 it is supported by the
> standard driver. No need for the legacy driver.

For driver support, this page is rather helpful.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us

and yes, the 6100 uses the current drivers.

I suspect your problem is related to MAKEDEV.

MAKEDEV-3.23-7 has some issues and you'll need to downgrade to
MAKEDEV-3.23-6.  

get it here: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=63659


R.

> 
-- 
"It's a fine line between denial and faith.
 It's much better on my side"



From rodd at clarkson.id.au  Wed Oct 15 06:26:15 2008
From: rodd at clarkson.id.au (Rodd Clarkson)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:26:15 +1100
Subject: Anyone else seeing a stutter in gnome using rawhide
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With yesterday's update, all it good.

It worth noting that I'm using nvidia and that there was also an nvidia
proprietary driver (stable) update from livna in this, but I've seen the
same issues using the nv driver too, so I'm not convinced the nvidia
issue is relevant.

What graphics drivers are others seeing this problem with?


R.

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 18:34 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> > I get stutters in gnome while using rawhide.
> > 
> > If, for example, I'm typing, the text will stop appearing for second (or
> > so) and then all the letters I've typed over that time appear.
> > 
> > Add to this that the icons on the desktop will disappear, and then
> > reappear.  This usually happens at the end of the pause.
> > 
> > Anyone else seen this, and more importantly any ideas what might be
> > causing it and what package to file a bug against.
> > 
> > I should have said something earlier.  I've noticed this for some time,
> > but I just assumed it was so obvious that it would be fixed quickly.
> > 
> > Oh, I've seen the problem three times while typing this email.  (about 2
> > minutes of typing)
> > 
> > R.
> 
> Yeah, I've been seeing that as well...  I've got system monitor running 
> and I am not seeing any spike in CPU or disk, just the random micro-hang 
> that you are calling a stutter.
> 
> No idea what causes it, but I did notice it when I opened any graphical 
> tool like gnome-sound-properties.
> 
> Using rawhide up to date as of about an hour ago.
> 
> Thomas
> 
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From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 06:37:22 2008
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:37:22 +0200
Subject: Using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia with F10?
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On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 19:16 -0400, Arch Willingham wrote:
> I just noticed a posting about switching from livna to Rpmfusion. I
>  have never used any other extra repository except Livna. When I saw
>  the mention of Rpmfusion I looked it up and its sounds like it is
>  replacing livna...am I right? With F10 are we supposed to start using
>  Rpmfusion vs. Livnia? How do you do it during the beta of F10?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Arch
> 
I am using both. The repos are compatible and RPMFusion is supposed to
painlessly replace livna, but some livna packages still seem to be
missing there (or were, last time I checked). If you want the gstreamer
plugins autoinstall to work, you'll need RPMFusion enabled.

Martin
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From jspaar at users.sourceforge.net  Wed Oct 15 06:38:52 2008
From: jspaar at users.sourceforge.net (Jack Spaar)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:38:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:44:33 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 21:13 -0500, david d zuhn wrote:
>> >> livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 373: 512 +  + 679 + : syntax error:
>> >> operand expected (error token is " ")
>> >
>> > Jeremy was going to take a look at that this afternoon (see ).
>> 
>> I've done a patch to the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script which solves this
>> problem (and a similar one for another variable).   I'm running this on
>> a LiveCD installation of F10-beta on i386:
>> 
>> http://stpaulterminal.org/olpc/livecd-sizepatch.diff
> 
> Looks good.  Applied and updated the copy on my fedorapeople page.
> Thanks for the patch!
> 

Also livesize is calculated based on the squashfs size rather than the 
ext3fs size, so it won't always detect in advance that there isn't enough 
room on the card.  To be clear, that won't be a problem for anyone using a 
4GB card with the configuration recommended in the testing instructions.

--Jack




From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Wed Oct 15 07:09:58 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:09:58 +0200
Subject: NetworkManager-vpnc broken after 4175 update?
In-Reply-To: <1224026922.4122.38.camel@luminos.localdomain>
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Jesse Keating wrote:
[snip]
> It was being worked on today, should be fixed in tomorrow's rawhide
> updates.

I just tried NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.0-0.11.svn4175.fc10.x86_64 from koji.

Good: I can add a vpnc connection again and I can connect.

Not so good: editing IPv4 routes does not seem to work ( NM Edit 
Connections -> VPN -> <connection> -> Edit -> IPv4 Settings -> Routes). 
I can add an Address, Prefix and Gateway but it does not get saved. 
Also, it would be nice if the tab would move me from e.g. Address to Prefix.

Thanks,
Patrick



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Wed Oct 15 07:29:55 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:29:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Martin Sourada wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:37 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> This is normal.  If you want the grub menu, hold down shift (or any
>> other key really).
>>
> Well, at least some text suggesting that you might do so would be good,
> I thing
>
>> That's the text plugin, yes.  It's not going to progress "smoothly",
>> it's ascii art.  We were hoping KMS support would land for Intel chips
>> for F10 but it looks like that's not going to happen.
>>
> On a similar note, I noticed the progress bar finishes long before the
> boot process (I think somewhere around the time services start to
> start). This isn't an expected behaviour from user point of view.
> Actually it is pretty weird... I've installed readahead (not sure though
> if it is enabled, or how to enable it if not) and disabled some unneeded
> services which resulted in the progress bar showing up incomplete for
> about only a third of the boot process (and completing really fast).
> When I look at the real progress after the progress bar is already
> finished, I see services starting.

I observe this too. Moreover if you press esc during this boot to see 
service starting messages, and then press esc again to hide it, then 
progressbar starts again from the beginning. Bit confusing.

>
> Martin
>

Adam Pribyl



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 09:43:00 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:43:00 +0100
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
	now for livna-devel users!
In-Reply-To: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810150243n524a1c22gb884a1224ac687d1@mail.gmail.com>

> Find below a cut'n'pasted and slightly enhanced version of a post from my
> blog FYI:
>
>
> As you'll likely have heard by now: RPM Fusion ( http://rpmfusion.org ), the
> merger of Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna gets closer to its official
> release/start. Most of the packages from Livna have been imported and build
> for RPM Fusion already, hence we now begin to slowly move users from Livna
> over to RPM Fusion by activating the RPM Fusion free and nonfree rawhide
> repos for users of livna's devel branch *now*.
>
> The transition works like this: I just added the rpmfusion-release packages
> for the RPM Fusion's free and nonfree rawhide repos to the livna-devel repo;
> in parallel I built a new livna-release package that tracks those two in
> with a hard dep. That way all users that installed livna properly (e.g. by
> installing the livna-release package) will get RPM Fusion repos enabled
> automatically with the next update. Yum/PK will hence with the overnext
> update will download a big bunch of updates, as all the packages were build
> anew for RPM Fusion; but rawhide users are likely used to big downloads, so
> this should hopefully not be a big problem ;-)
>
> Note, nearly all of livna's packages have been imported and build for RPM
> Fusion, but a few are still missing. So you should leave livna-devel enabled
> for now if you want access to those. Once all the packages have a new home
> we'll let the rpmfusion-nonfree-release package obsolete livna-release.
>
> But please note that all the packages that have been imported and build in
> RPM Fusion will *not* be updated anymore in livna-devel! Hence if you didn't
> install livna using the livna-release package then please enable RPM Fusion
> using the following command:
>
>> rpm -ivh \
>>
>> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm
>> \
>>
>> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm
>
> That command from now on is the right one to use if you want RPM Fusion
> enabled on your fresh new Fedora Alpha/Beta/RC/Rawhide install.

Is there any chance of getting all the kmod packages rebuilt against
the the current 2.6.27-3 release? The rest of the packages I've tested
look great, its just some of the kmod ones I can't.

Peter



From fedora at leemhuis.info  Wed Oct 15 10:02:22 2008
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:02:22 +0200
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
 now for livna-devel users!
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810150243n524a1c22gb884a1224ac687d1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
	<5256d0b0810150243n524a1c22gb884a1224ac687d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F5BFAE.3030406@leemhuis.info>

On 15.10.2008 11:43, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> Find below a cut'n'pasted and slightly enhanced version of a post from my
>> blog FYI:
>>
>> As you'll likely have heard by now: RPM Fusion ( http://rpmfusion.org ), the
>> merger of Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna gets closer to its official
>> release/start. Most of the packages from Livna have been imported and build
>> for RPM Fusion already, hence we now begin to slowly move users from Livna
>> over to RPM Fusion by activating the RPM Fusion free and nonfree rawhide
>> repos for users of livna's devel branch *now*.
>>[...]
> Is there any chance of getting all the kmod packages rebuilt against
> the the current 2.6.27-3 release? The rest of the packages I've tested
> look great, its just some of the kmod ones I can't.

I build the kmods for the kernel that were shipped with the beta. If you 
follow rawhide then you might want to install the akmod-packages (e.g. 
akmod-nvidia); then the akmods scripts will automatically build new kmod 
packages when you install a new kernel-install (or during boot); that's 
similar to how dkms does it.

The plan is to rebuild all kmods in RPM Fusion for the latest rawhide 
kernel automatically once a week (likely on each Sunday) to make sure 
they still compile (and for users with slow netbooks, where you don't 
want to compile modules); but I haven't got around to set that up yet, 
sorry.

CU
knurd



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 10:13:58 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:13:58 +0100
Subject: First steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins
	now for livna-devel users!
In-Reply-To: <48F5BFAE.3030406@leemhuis.info>
References: <48F4C067.90308@leemhuis.info>
	<5256d0b0810150243n524a1c22gb884a1224ac687d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F5BFAE.3030406@leemhuis.info>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810150313g3f4f16bek96650a8ddb159210@mail.gmail.com>

>>> Find below a cut'n'pasted and slightly enhanced version of a post from my
>>> blog FYI:
>>>
>>> As you'll likely have heard by now: RPM Fusion ( http://rpmfusion.org ),
>>> the
>>> merger of Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna gets closer to its official
>>> release/start. Most of the packages from Livna have been imported and
>>> build
>>> for RPM Fusion already, hence we now begin to slowly move users from
>>> Livna
>>> over to RPM Fusion by activating the RPM Fusion free and nonfree rawhide
>>> repos for users of livna's devel branch *now*.
>>> [...]
>>
>> Is there any chance of getting all the kmod packages rebuilt against
>> the the current 2.6.27-3 release? The rest of the packages I've tested
>> look great, its just some of the kmod ones I can't.
>
> I build the kmods for the kernel that were shipped with the beta. If you
> follow rawhide then you might want to install the akmod-packages (e.g.
> akmod-nvidia); then the akmods scripts will automatically build new kmod
> packages when you install a new kernel-install (or during boot); that's
> similar to how dkms does it.
>
> The plan is to rebuild all kmods in RPM Fusion for the latest rawhide kernel
> automatically once a week (likely on each Sunday) to make sure they still
> compile (and for users with slow netbooks, where you don't want to compile
> modules); but I haven't got around to set that up yet, sorry.

The netbook wifi drivers were what I was after as my netbook doesn't
have the space for compilers etc. and I don't have any other i386
boxes around to recompile and hadn't had time to try and work out how
to make mock build them. Weekly would be great.

Peter



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 11:06:54 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:06:54 +0200
Subject: Rpmfusion
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810142222v2e054489o54cb7a2a7149fb4b@mail.gmail.com>
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2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/15 KH KH <kwizart at gmail.com>:
>>> 2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> I have switched from livna to Rpmfusion.
>>>> Sound with VLC is poor after upgrading (I guess connected to ffmpeg)
>>>> How can I report any bug???
>>> http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org
>>> But you will need to be more verbose and not to try to answear
>>> question before asking
>>> (like you have just done assuming it was a ffmpeg/vlc interaction
>>> without saying which hardware/ which sound server/which kernel).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>
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>>
>> it is why I asked the place to report a bug, otherwise this list might
>> become a bug list for Rpmfusion.
>> Anyway, for better understanding, yesterday night I switched from
>> Livna to Rpmfusion and all available updates were done on two systems,
>> one laptop running Intel ICh8 chip and the desktop running ICH5 ..
>>
>> Before upgrading VLC was great, after I noticed that sound was
>> degraded...but I have to dig, as I rebooted the laptop it seems
>> o.k....I have no time now to start the desktop as I have to go to the
>> office now, I will report in ten hours....in any case the question is
>> about the bug place for Rpmfusion.
>>
>> Great job
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>
> so..laptop seems o,k, but desktop's sound in VLC with AC97 controller
> and using snd-intel8x0 driver is poor, there is small glitches and
> some echo.(and it was o.k. before switching from Livna to..
> laptop is using snd_hda_intel, both  2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 kernel.....
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

I used VLC this morning (European time...) on my laptop and sound at
the beginning is o.k...then after some time (two hours) it degrades
(glitches  and interruptions) and shortly afterwards it is
interrupted...no way of changing stream. I have to kill it.
any help??

Tnx

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From linux at elfshadow.net  Wed Oct 15 11:14:15 2008
From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:14:15 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <1224036851.6033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
	<1224036851.6033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Michael Solberg <msolberg at redhat.com> wrote:
> It's also worth noting that the few of us on #fedora-qa testing the new
> images tonight were all still getting hard lock-ups of our systems after
> a few minutes of usage.  This seems unrelated to memory - I still had
> plenty of swap left at least once when it froze up.  It almost seems
> like an X problem.  Sometimes the system freezes, but I can still move
> the mouse.  I can't kill X with <ctl>-<alt>-<backspace> or switch to a
> virtual terminal when that happens.

This was the case I was having last night - I was one of the ones on
#fedora-qa last night.  The system booted using the new Snap1 and
initially the responsiveness seemed pretty good.  Moving through the
menus seemed to go quickly and doing the initial connection to my
wireless access point was pain free.

But after a few minutes things would slow to the point of things no
longer opening up (even menus), though the mouse would still move.  If
you waited long enough though, even the mouse would freeze and stop
moving.

~Jeffrey



From kwizart at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 11:17:22 2008
From: kwizart at gmail.com (KH KH)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:17:22 +0200
Subject: Rpmfusion
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810150406r7bad5304y577ed824b1941be0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810141502j513a3cech1543b00377cf1bdf@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4c37b6af0810142204i6778e7f4g28c9ab718990d919@mail.gmail.com>
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2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
...
> I used VLC this morning (European time...) on my laptop and sound at
> the beginning is o.k...then after some time (two hours) it degrades
> (glitches  and interruptions) and shortly afterwards it is
> interrupted...no way of changing stream. I have to kill it.
> any help??
>
Did you tried with others players ? once vlc with vlc died ?
Rerun Pulseaudio
pulseaudio -k
pulseaudio -D
I don't know if it still matter to have your user in the pulse-rt group,
The problem you describe doesn't seems related to this.
enable vlc verbose mode from a terminal
vlc -v (vlc -vvv for more verbose )

Nicolas (kwizart)



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 11:29:13 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:29:13 +0200
Subject: Rpmfusion
In-Reply-To: <e1760170810150417p23150be9r861aa9e2bcc3399d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810141502j513a3cech1543b00377cf1bdf@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4c37b6af0810142222v2e054489o54cb7a2a7149fb4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810150406r7bad5304y577ed824b1941be0@mail.gmail.com>
	<e1760170810150417p23150be9r861aa9e2bcc3399d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810150429w21559901qc50c2769bf851999@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 KH KH <kwizart at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> ...
>> I used VLC this morning (European time...) on my laptop and sound at
>> the beginning is o.k...then after some time (two hours) it degrades
>> (glitches  and interruptions) and shortly afterwards it is
>> interrupted...no way of changing stream. I have to kill it.
>> any help??
>>
> Did you tried with others players ? once vlc with vlc died ?
> Rerun Pulseaudio
> pulseaudio -k
> pulseaudio -D
> I don't know if it still matter to have your user in the pulse-rt group,
> The problem you describe doesn't seems related to this.
> enable vlc verbose mode from a terminal
> vlc -v (vlc -vvv for more verbose )
>
> Nicolas (kwizart)
>
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>

Tnx Nicolas for the answer.

I think that this thread should be renamed....Multimedia troubles or
something like it
So shortly ago I tried Rhythmbox to play an mp3 and with latest kernel
was awful...then I switched to an old kernel
2.6.27-0.392.rc8.git7.fc10.i686 and sound seems to have recovered. I
started VLC with the old kernel but unfortunately I have no time to
test for the next two hours...(I have to shut down laptop in a short
time as I am leaving..)
I note anyway that when I start a radio stream, at the very beginning
sound is ugly (for few seconds) and then it recovers.
Now I need to use an old kernel on the desktop....

Tnx again


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 11:35:30 2008
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:35:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: bodhi comment becomes anonymous
Message-ID: <loom.20081015T113350-811@post.gmane.org>

I put a comment in to bodhi after testing a package - and despite putting in my
email address the comment was listed as anonymous - has something changed in the
way that comment entry now occurs?



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 15 12:05:58 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:05:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: how to restart network with NetworkManager controlled wired
	connection
In-Reply-To: <20081014132400.GC27052@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <264799.9143.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Chuck Anderson <cra at WPI.EDU> wrote:

> From: Chuck Anderson <cra at WPI.EDU>
> Subject: Re: how to restart network with NetworkManager controlled wired connection
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 6:24 AM
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 05:57:48AM -0700, Antonio Olivares
> wrote:
> > I won't get the connection back.  How do I get the
> connection back 
> > if NetworkManager is running and I previously stopped
> it.  I just 
> > want to know if it is possible.
> 
> Probably use this service instead of "network":
> 
> Stop:
> 
> service NetworkManager stop
> 
> Start:
> 
> service NetworkManager start
> 
> -- 

Sorry not have replied back sooner.  Your advice worked :)

Thank you very much!

Antonio 


      



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 12:30:31 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:30:31 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <1224036266.12340.125.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
	<1224036266.12340.125.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <48F5E267.9070101@redhat.com>

Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 21:49 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> 1) GDK has not updated his blog
> 
> Heh -- I updated mine :)
> 
>> 2) The initial boot is very slow, with no feedback (no hotdog man)
> 
> Slow isn't entirely unexpected.  The fact that the progress bar finishes
> with the text plugin before we're done is something that might need some
> general plymouth looking at.  And we're getting the text plugin due to a
> dependency loop (again).  *sigh*
> 
>> 3) many windows are much snappier.
> 
> Yep, should be.  And there are some bugs in the geode driver that
> upstream was looking at getting us a fix for soon which should help even
> more
> 
>> 4) new windows such as font preferences and terminal preferences are 
>> painfully slow (the latter is going on 5 mins)
> 
> Is this when you already have a lot of things running?

No.. I logged in and immediately went to Preferences -> Look and Feel -> 
Appearance. I would estimate about a minute to bring up the fonts tab 
after the first tab came up. I then launched a terminal. I then launched 
firefox. I went back to the terminal to click on a menu.  I got this 
screen for about 5 minutes:

http://picasaweb.google.com/bryan.kearney/Olpc#5257189804330963746

> 
>> 5) Still get kernel panic at the beginning
> 
> I haven't actually seen this on the FedoraOnXO deptree... can someone
> file it against the kernel and have it block the tracker?

I will look this morning. I think someone else posted the info to the list.

-- bk



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 12:32:31 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:32:31 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <1224036851.6033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
	<1224036851.6033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F5E2DF.6060304@redhat.com>

Michael Solberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 21:49 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> Couple of comments:
>>
>> 1) GDK has not updated his blog
>> 2) The initial boot is very slow, with no feedback (no hotdog man)
>> 3) many windows are much snappier.
>> 4) new windows such as font preferences and terminal preferences are 
>> painfully slow (the latter is going on 5 mins)
>> 5) Still get kernel panic at the beginning
> 
> It's also worth noting that the few of us on #fedora-qa testing the new
> images tonight were all still getting hard lock-ups of our systems after
> a few minutes of usage.  This seems unrelated to memory - I still had
> plenty of swap left at least once when it froze up.  It almost seems
> like an X problem.  Sometimes the system freezes, but I can still move
> the mouse.  I can't kill X with <ctl>-<alt>-<backspace> or switch to a
> virtual terminal when that happens.

Is that ctrl-alt-erase in xo speak (solid diamond-empty diamond-erase)?

-- bk




From cpanceac at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 12:56:16 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:56:16 +0300
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810150556r2afa3422v8c662483ebf8fcd0@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/14 Martin Sourada <martin.sourada at gmail.com>

> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:37 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > This is normal.  If you want the grub menu, hold down shift (or any
> > other key really).
> >
> Well, at least some text suggesting that you might do so would be good,
> I thing

+1
could be something like:
"<label> is starting in <x> seconds" on top
and
"press any key to see the boot menu" on bottom ...

not telling the user what's goin' on, sounds like windows to me.
( i actually had one system with windows xp wich for unknown reasons stayed
at black screen for 30 minutes or more before starting :) )

>
>
> > That's the text plugin, yes.  It's not going to progress "smoothly",
> > it's ascii art.  We were hoping KMS support would land for Intel chips
> > for F10 but it looks like that's not going to happen.
> >
> On a similar note, I noticed the progress bar finishes long before the
> boot process (I think somewhere around the time services start to
> start). This isn't an expected behaviour from user point of view.
> Actually it is pretty weird... I've installed readahead (not sure though
> if it is enabled, or how to enable it if not) and disabled some unneeded
> services which resulted in the progress bar showing up incomplete for
> about only a third of the boot process (and completing really fast).
> When I look at the real progress after the progress bar is already
> finished, I see services starting.
>
> Martin
>
> --
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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From msolberg at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 12:57:55 2008
From: msolberg at redhat.com (Michael Solberg)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:57:55 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <48F5E2DF.6060304@redhat.com>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
	<1224036851.6033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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Message-ID: <1224075475.10125.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>


On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 08:32 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Michael Solberg wrote:
> > It's also worth noting that the few of us on #fedora-qa testing the new
> > images tonight were all still getting hard lock-ups of our systems after
> > a few minutes of usage.  This seems unrelated to memory - I still had
> > plenty of swap left at least once when it froze up.  It almost seems
> > like an X problem.  Sometimes the system freezes, but I can still move
> > the mouse.  I can't kill X with <ctl>-<alt>-<backspace> or switch to a
> > virtual terminal when that happens.
> 
> Is that ctrl-alt-erase in xo speak (solid diamond-empty diamond-erase)?

It is.  It works unless the system is hung.

Michael.




From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 12:57:33 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:57:33 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <1224075475.10125.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>	
	<1224036851.6033.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>	
	<48F5E2DF.6060304@redhat.com>
	<1224075475.10125.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F5E8BD.1030000@redhat.com>

Michael Solberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 08:32 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> Michael Solberg wrote:
>>> It's also worth noting that the few of us on #fedora-qa testing the new
>>> images tonight were all still getting hard lock-ups of our systems after
>>> a few minutes of usage.  This seems unrelated to memory - I still had
>>> plenty of swap left at least once when it froze up.  It almost seems
>>> like an X problem.  Sometimes the system freezes, but I can still move
>>> the mouse.  I can't kill X with <ctl>-<alt>-<backspace> or switch to a
>>> virtual terminal when that happens.
>> Is that ctrl-alt-erase in xo speak (solid diamond-empty diamond-erase)?
> 
> It is.  It works unless the system is hung.
> 
> Michael.
> 
> 
Yeah.. I started seeing the hangs today and a oops on every other boot.

--bk



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 13:02:59 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:02:59 +0200
Subject: Rpmfusion
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810150429w21559901qc50c2769bf851999@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810141502j513a3cech1543b00377cf1bdf@mail.gmail.com>
	<e1760170810141515u39e9b0abo13359b55b888b15f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810142204i6778e7f4g28c9ab718990d919@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810142222v2e054489o54cb7a2a7149fb4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810150406r7bad5304y577ed824b1941be0@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4c37b6af0810150429w21559901qc50c2769bf851999@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810150602t3579cc45u8eb9ee4acf834294@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/15 KH KH <kwizart at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> ...
>>> I used VLC this morning (European time...) on my laptop and sound at
>>> the beginning is o.k...then after some time (two hours) it degrades
>>> (glitches  and interruptions) and shortly afterwards it is
>>> interrupted...no way of changing stream. I have to kill it.
>>> any help??
>>>
>> Did you tried with others players ? once vlc with vlc died ?
>> Rerun Pulseaudio
>> pulseaudio -k
>> pulseaudio -D
>> I don't know if it still matter to have your user in the pulse-rt group,
>> The problem you describe doesn't seems related to this.
>> enable vlc verbose mode from a terminal
>> vlc -v (vlc -vvv for more verbose )
>>
>> Nicolas (kwizart)
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
> Tnx Nicolas for the answer.
>
> I think that this thread should be renamed....Multimedia troubles or
> something like it
> So shortly ago I tried Rhythmbox to play an mp3 and with latest kernel
> was awful...then I switched to an old kernel
> 2.6.27-0.392.rc8.git7.fc10.i686 and sound seems to have recovered. I
> started VLC with the old kernel but unfortunately I have no time to
> test for the next two hours...(I have to shut down laptop in a short
> time as I am leaving..)
> I note anyway that when I start a radio stream, at the very beginning
> sound is ugly (for few seconds) and then it recovers.
> Now I need to use an old kernel on the desktop....
>
> Tnx again
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 plays VLC fine on my desktop....what is to
blame, kernel, VLC or whatelse???
So the guru have informations from my side to check what is
wrong......my skill cannot help any deeper, unless requested...

:-)

Tnx all


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From rich.sharples at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 13:03:52 2008
From: rich.sharples at redhat.com (Rich Sharples)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:03:52 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>

Thanks for the update - I'd previously got that far *and* even had the 
patience to get on my home Wifi - after that my XO hung / went 
completely glacial.

I'll try the latest recipe later tonight.

I presume the build we're using has the absolute bear minimum services 
enabled so no pruning is required ?

- Rich
> Success (well..alot more)
>
> - pulled down the latest
> - Ran the following
> ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
> 512 --swap-size-mb 0 F10-Snap1-i686-Live/F10-Snap1-i686-Live.iso 
> /dev/sdb1
>
> And Viola!:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/bryan.kearney/Olpc#5257190341949578050
>
>
> Couple of comments:
>
> 1) GDK has not updated his blog
> 2) The initial boot is very slow, with no feedback (no hotdog man)
> 3) many windows are much snappier.
> 4) new windows such as font preferences and terminal preferences are 
> painfully slow (the latter is going on 5 mins)
> 5) Still get kernel panic at the beginning
>
> But.. much further along.
>
> -- bk
>


-- 
Rich Sharples
JBoss, a division of Red Hat Inc.

m : +1 919 265 9099
o : +1 919 754 4174

http://blog.softwhere.org



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 13:02:09 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:02:09 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com> <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F5E9D1.40200@redhat.com>

Rich Sharples wrote:
> Thanks for the update - I'd previously got that far *and* even had the 
> patience to get on my home Wifi - after that my XO hung / went 
> completely glacial.
> 
> I'll try the latest recipe later tonight.
> 
> I presume the build we're using has the absolute bear minimum services 
> enabled so no pruning is required ?


Nothing yet.. just Snap1.

-- bk



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 13:08:09 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:08:09 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>  <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224076089.3915.5.camel@flatline>

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:03 -0400, Rich Sharples wrote:
> I presume the build we're using has the absolute bear minimum services
> enabled so no pruning is required ?

Some pruning has already been done with all live images (/sbin/service
setroubleshoot stop).  However there may be more pruning suggestions.

Please don't hesitate to drop your thoughts into 

> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance

Thanks,
James
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From rich.sharples at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 13:10:52 2008
From: rich.sharples at redhat.com (Rich Sharples)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:10:52 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <1224076089.3915.5.camel@flatline>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com> <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>
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I'll give that a try. FWIW - I think getting a slimmed down install 
would be great - otherwise n00bs like me just aren't going to make any 
progress and aren't going to be able to contribute much to the actual 
testing.

- Rich
> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:03 -0400, Rich Sharples wrote:
>   
>> I presume the build we're using has the absolute bear minimum services
>> enabled so no pruning is required ?
>>     
>
> Some pruning has already been done with all live images (/sbin/service
> setroubleshoot stop).  However there may be more pruning suggestions.
>
> Please don't hesitate to drop your thoughts into 
>
>   
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance
>>     
>
> Thanks,
> James
>   


-- 
Rich Sharples
JBoss, a division of Red Hat Inc.

m : +1 919 265 9099
o : +1 919 754 4174

http://blog.softwhere.org



From msolberg at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 13:11:47 2008
From: msolberg at redhat.com (Michael Solberg)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:11:47 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>  <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224076307.10125.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>


On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:03 -0400, Rich Sharples wrote:
> Thanks for the update - I'd previously got that far *and* even had the 
> patience to get on my home Wifi - after that my XO hung / went 
> completely glacial.
> 
> I'll try the latest recipe later tonight.
> 
> I presume the build we're using has the absolute bear minimum services 
> enabled so no pruning is required ?

I didn't find pruning services all that important - if you boot the
stock image to run level 3, you'll only see around 40MB of RSS.  The
killer is the GNOME desktop stuff.  You can save maybe 10MB by turning
off setroubleshoot and another few MB by turning off bluetooth, but the
real advantages are in tuning the GNOME session.  

Also - swap is essential -

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance#Swap_space.3F

has instructions for turning on swap once your XO has booted.

Michael.


> - Rich
> > Success (well..alot more)
> >
> > - pulled down the latest
> > - Ran the following
> > ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
> > 512 --swap-size-mb 0 F10-Snap1-i686-Live/F10-Snap1-i686-Live.iso 
> > /dev/sdb1
> >
> > And Viola!:
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/bryan.kearney/Olpc#5257190341949578050
> >
> >
> > Couple of comments:
> >
> > 1) GDK has not updated his blog
> > 2) The initial boot is very slow, with no feedback (no hotdog man)
> > 3) many windows are much snappier.
> > 4) new windows such as font preferences and terminal preferences are 
> > painfully slow (the latter is going on 5 mins)
> > 5) Still get kernel panic at the beginning
> >
> > But.. much further along.
> >
> > -- bk
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rich Sharples
> JBoss, a division of Red Hat Inc.
> 
> m : +1 919 265 9099
> o : +1 919 754 4174
> 
> http://blog.softwhere.org
> 



From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 12:36:46 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:36:46 -0400
Subject: XO: Performance testing (F10 Beta snap#1)
In-Reply-To: <gd435s$6ir$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>
	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F4FDA0.1000702@redhat.com> <1224016961.7420.60.camel@flatline>
	<253b7410810141913k2a04e10eq18a8ca9f22dabf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224038673.12340.126.camel@aglarond.local>
	<gd435s$6ir$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1224074206.12340.128.camel@aglarond.local>

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 06:38 +0000, Jack Spaar wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:44:33 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 21:13 -0500, david d zuhn wrote:
> >> >> livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 373: 512 +  + 679 + : syntax error:
> >> >> operand expected (error token is " ")
> >> >
> >> > Jeremy was going to take a look at that this afternoon (see ).
> >> 
> >> I've done a patch to the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script which solves this
> >> problem (and a similar one for another variable).   I'm running this on
> >> a LiveCD installation of F10-beta on i386:
> >> 
> >> http://stpaulterminal.org/olpc/livecd-sizepatch.diff
> > 
> > Looks good.  Applied and updated the copy on my fedorapeople page.
> > Thanks for the patch!
> > 
> Also livesize is calculated based on the squashfs size rather than the 
> ext3fs size, so it won't always detect in advance that there isn't enough 
> room on the card.  To be clear, that won't be a problem for anyone using a 
> 4GB card with the configuration recommended in the testing instructions.

Yep -- this is one of the reasons why the current version of the script
is only on my fedorapeople page and not yet committed to git :-)

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 12:37:21 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:37:21 -0400
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810150927190.21142@sandbox.cz>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810150927190.21142@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <1224074241.12340.129.camel@aglarond.local>

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:29 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> Moreover if you press esc during this boot to see 
> service starting messages, and then press esc again to hide it, then 
> progressbar starts again from the beginning. Bit confusing.

This is new and probably worth filing against plymouth

Thanks,

Jeremy



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 13:27:29 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:27:29 +0200
Subject: Rpmfusion
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810150602t3579cc45u8eb9ee4acf834294@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810141502j513a3cech1543b00377cf1bdf@mail.gmail.com>
	<e1760170810141515u39e9b0abo13359b55b888b15f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810142204i6778e7f4g28c9ab718990d919@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810142222v2e054489o54cb7a2a7149fb4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810150406r7bad5304y577ed824b1941be0@mail.gmail.com>
	<e1760170810150417p23150be9r861aa9e2bcc3399d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810150429w21559901qc50c2769bf851999@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810150602t3579cc45u8eb9ee4acf834294@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810150627i4d83d464u205675cf14599ff8@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/15 KH KH <kwizart at gmail.com>:
>>> 2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> ...
>>>> I used VLC this morning (European time...) on my laptop and sound at
>>>> the beginning is o.k...then after some time (two hours) it degrades
>>>> (glitches  and interruptions) and shortly afterwards it is
>>>> interrupted...no way of changing stream. I have to kill it.
>>>> any help??
>>>>
>>> Did you tried with others players ? once vlc with vlc died ?
>>> Rerun Pulseaudio
>>> pulseaudio -k
>>> pulseaudio -D
>>> I don't know if it still matter to have your user in the pulse-rt group,
>>> The problem you describe doesn't seems related to this.
>>> enable vlc verbose mode from a terminal
>>> vlc -v (vlc -vvv for more verbose )
>>>
>>> Nicolas (kwizart)
>>>
>>> --
>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> To unsubscribe:
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>
>>
>> Tnx Nicolas for the answer.
>>
>> I think that this thread should be renamed....Multimedia troubles or
>> something like it
>> So shortly ago I tried Rhythmbox to play an mp3 and with latest kernel
>> was awful...then I switched to an old kernel
>> 2.6.27-0.392.rc8.git7.fc10.i686 and sound seems to have recovered. I
>> started VLC with the old kernel but unfortunately I have no time to
>> test for the next two hours...(I have to shut down laptop in a short
>> time as I am leaving..)
>> I note anyway that when I start a radio stream, at the very beginning
>> sound is ugly (for few seconds) and then it recovers.
>> Now I need to use an old kernel on the desktop....
>>
>> Tnx again
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>  2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 plays VLC fine on my desktop....what is to
> blame, kernel, VLC or whatelse???
> So the guru have informations from my side to check what is
> wrong......my skill cannot help any deeper, unless requested...
>
> :-)
>
> Tnx all
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

i installed a kernel from koij  2.6.27-13.fc10.i686 and VLC plays
great: I guess that problem was in the kernel.
So for me problem is solved!!. Tnx

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From arch at tuparks.com  Wed Oct 15 13:44:08 2008
From: arch at tuparks.com (Arch Willingham)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:44:08 -0400
Subject: Using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia with F10?
In-Reply-To: <1224052642.2820.3.camel@pc-notebook>
References: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF85433780A17ED@hall.tup.com>
	<1224052642.2820.3.camel@pc-notebook>
Message-ID: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543379A155EE@hall.tup.com>

How do you enable Rpmfusion in F10?

Thanks!

Arch

-----Original Message-----
From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sourada
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:37 AM
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
Subject: Re: Using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia with F10?

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 19:16 -0400, Arch Willingham wrote:
> I just noticed a posting about switching from livna to Rpmfusion. I
>  have never used any other extra repository except Livna. When I saw
>  the mention of Rpmfusion I looked it up and its sounds like it is
>  replacing livna...am I right? With F10 are we supposed to start using
>  Rpmfusion vs. Livnia? How do you do it during the beta of F10?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Arch
>
I am using both. The repos are compatible and RPMFusion is supposed to
painlessly replace livna, but some livna packages still seem to be
missing there (or were, last time I checked). If you want the gstreamer
plugins autoinstall to work, you'll need RPMFusion enabled.

Martin



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 13:51:10 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:51:10 +0200
Subject: Using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia with F10?
In-Reply-To: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543379A155EE@hall.tup.com>
References: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF85433780A17ED@hall.tup.com>
	<1224052642.2820.3.camel@pc-notebook>
	<F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543379A155EE@hall.tup.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810150651i75a42231mb363442409296606@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 Arch Willingham <arch at tuparks.com>:
> How do you enable Rpmfusion in F10?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Arch
>
if you update to livna-release-9.90-1, RpmFusion is magically mounted....



-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 13:53:08 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:53:08 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap1 download without bittorrent
Message-ID: <2e084c470810150653y7c42d475rc90440032e3cf856@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone have a straight ftp or http download of the Snap1 ISO?

torrent is not an option for me at work. Otherwise it'll have to wait
'til I get home tonight.

/Blake



From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 14:26:01 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:26:01 -0500
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <db34c1810810142033h276edd83t8f8c8f5102c4e783@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<1224018858.3104.14.camel@cambridge-laptop>	<48F5414A.1020500@redhat.com>
	<db34c1810810142033h276edd83t8f8c8f5102c4e783@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F5FD79.3060704@gmail.com>

Did you have original packaging?

On 10/14/2008 10:33 PM, dave yates wrote:
> FWIW... Circuit City took it back.. no questions asked.
>
> -- bk
>



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 14:23:05 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:23:05 -0400
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <48F5FD79.3060704@gmail.com>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<1224018858.3104.14.camel@cambridge-laptop>	<48F5414A.1020500@redhat.com>	<db34c1810810142033h276edd83t8f8c8f5102c4e783@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F5FD79.3060704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F5FCC9.4070303@redhat.com>

Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> Did you have original packaging?

Yes for the cardboard box. No for the plastic thingy which the card sat in.

-- bk




From cddesjardins at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 14:29:55 2008
From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:29:55 -0500
Subject: XO: 2gig cards no longer suitable for testing
In-Reply-To: <48F5FCC9.4070303@redhat.com>
References: <1223999989.7420.31.camel@flatline>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141223140.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<48F4DA8F.7040608@redhat.com>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141351550.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<db34c1810810141358t600c20c0qedb5ea23ecba109f@mail.gmail.com>	<alpine.LFD.1.10.0810141658590.10767@localhost.localdomain>	<1224018858.3104.14.camel@cambridge-laptop>	<48F5414A.1020500@redhat.com>	<db34c1810810142033h276edd83t8f8c8f5102c4e783@mail.gmail.com>	<48F5FD79.3060704@gmail.com>
	<48F5FCC9.4070303@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F5FE63.1090603@gmail.com>

Great!  I'll try this tomorrow then and hopefully get the 4 gb.
Thanks,
C

On 10/15/2008 9:23 AM, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
>> Did you have original packaging?
>
> Yes for the cardboard box. No for the plastic thingy which the card 
> sat in.
>
> -- bk
>
>



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 15:25:28 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:25:28 +0200
Subject: VLC
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810150825n132a172elcf4c7c8b9da15daf@mail.gmail.com>

I am running VLC from RPMFusion
>From a previous post, I said that VLC with latest kernel from koij is
o.k.: this is true for radio stream but not for a Mp3 file.
Rhythmbox plays fine the mp3 file. from time to time crashes on radiostreams...

I still think that Multimedia is one of the point were the user take
any decision...my two cents.
How many are of the same opinion???

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 15 15:42:11 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:42:11 -0500
Subject: bodhi comment becomes anonymous
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081015T113350-811@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20081015T113350-811@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20081015154211.GA15239@wolff.to>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:35:30 +0000,
  Mike <mike.cloaked at gmail.com> wrote:
> I put a comment in to bodhi after testing a package - and despite putting in my
> email address the comment was listed as anonymous - has something changed in the
> way that comment entry now occurs?

I think you need to actually login to not be considered anonymous.



From bpowell01 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 15:41:47 2008
From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:41:47 -0400
Subject: XO Roll Call: Sign up for XO Testing Teams!
In-Reply-To: <48F4D9A8.7010505@redhat.com>
References: <48F4D9A8.7010505@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <96365e610810150841y60143a29s93b416087e1c1127@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Steven Salevan <ssalevan at redhat.com> wrote:
> Greetings fellow XO testers,
> It appears that with the new GNOME build the XO has reached a testable state
> so it's time to start pulling together testing groups.  We will be focusing
> on 6 major feature areas over the next two weeks:
>
> - Performance
> - Built-in Camera
> - Power Management
> - Networking
> - Display
> - Audio
>
> Since there are ~100 volunteers participating in this project, we realized
> that some structure might help to both resolve leadership confusion and
> streamline the test process; hence, we're organizing testing teams for each
> individual feature area.  There are two major roles in each team:  that of
> the team lead and that of the team member.
>
> As a team lead, you will have several responsibilities:
> - Coordinate your team's testing efforts
> - Establish a time for and lead regular team IRC meetings
> - Establish some _very_ basic focus point stubs for your feature area on
> your Wiki page (for a good example, check out
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance)
> - Report testing status bi-weekly for your respective feature area page on
> the Wiki
> - Ensure that all defects/bugs are filed and those that are already filed
> block the FedoraOnXo tracker bug
>
> If you'd like to be a team lead, send me an e-mail (ssalevan at redhat.com)
> with your top 3 feature area interests.  These roles will be meted out on a
> first-come, first-served basis, so be sure and get those e-mails out as soon
> as you can.  I'll be heading up the Audio team (known henceforth as 'The
> Phil Collins Experience'), so if you thoroughly enjoy both the production
> and generation of sound, you should join my team.  :-P
>
> As a team member, you will have the following responsibilities:
> - Fill in the stubs that your team lead has provided on your feature Wiki
> page with test cases and append your e-mail to each one you create
> - Test each test case you create on each new Fedora XO build
> - If a test case fails, file a Bugzilla (for a refresher on how to do this,
> visit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests)
> - If you file a Bugzilla, notify your team lead and update the test case on
> the Wiki
> - Attend IRC team meetings
> - Come up with a kickass name for your team
>
> So!  If you are part of the XO testing project, you should sign up for one
> of the groups here:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XO_Test_Roll_Call
>
> If you have any questions or comments regarding this new process, jlaska or
> I would be glad to answer them.  Otherwise, fire up your new XO, load up the
> new build, and start rocking out some tests!
> -Steve Salevan
> ssalevan at redhat.com
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

Unfortunately my testing XO had issues on delivery and had to be
shipped back to OLPC, I would love to sign up for a testing group but
until my RMA'd XO is returned (which I was told would take some time)
I am unable to test anything. : (

Hopefully it wont be too long for them to return it to me so I can
hopefully get involved in the later part of the month.
-- 
Regards,

BrianPowell
http://fedoraproject.org
http://wnylug.org



From per at bothner.com  Wed Oct 15 16:38:54 2008
From: per at bothner.com (Per Bothner)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:38:54 -0700
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0810150556r2afa3422v8c662483ebf8fcd0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>	<1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
	<db64ccf0810150556r2afa3422v8c662483ebf8fcd0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F61C9E.2020000@bothner.com>

cornel panceac wrote:
> 
> 
> 2008/10/14 Martin Sourada <martin.sourada at gmail.com 
> <mailto:martin.sourada at gmail.com>>
> 
>     On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:37 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>      > This is normal.  If you want the grub menu, hold down shift (or any
>      > other key really).
>      >
>     Well, at least some text suggesting that you might do so would be good,
>     I thing
> 
> +1
> could be something like:
> "<label> is starting in <x> seconds" on top
> and
> "press any key to see the boot menu" on bottom ...

Not only good - it should be a requirement before F10 ships.
A boot screen without that kind of feedback would be a major
regression.
-- 
	--Per Bothner
per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/



From mikolaj at kucharski.name  Wed Oct 15 17:09:58 2008
From: mikolaj at kucharski.name (Mikolaj Kucharski)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:09:58 +0100
Subject: Fedora 10 and 80x24 text console bootup (test ml)
Message-ID: <20081015170958.GF18172@x40.openbsd.home.lan>

Hi,

I would like to have plain text console all the way from grub to login
prompt completely disabling plymouth, as currently I have high
resolution glass console after kernel is reaching init. How I can
achieve that? TIA.

# plymouth-set-default-plugin
text

# cat /proc/cmdline
ro root=/dev/md1 nofb

# rpm -q fedora-release
fedora-release-9.92-1.noarch


PS. Please CC me as I've disabled mail delivery for this list.

-- 
best regards
q#



From marco.crosio at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 18:06:50 2008
From: marco.crosio at gmail.com (Marco Crosio)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:06:50 +0200
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <48F61C9E.2020000@bothner.com>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
	<db64ccf0810150556r2afa3422v8c662483ebf8fcd0@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F61C9E.2020000@bothner.com>
Message-ID: <390328ce0810151106u2a2ce1edi9e8b69d3e239a4e9@mail.gmail.com>

008/10/15 Per Bothner <per at bothner.com>

> cornel panceac wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2008/10/14 Martin Sourada <martin.sourada at gmail.com <mailto:
>> martin.sourada at gmail.com>>
>>
>>    On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:37 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>>     > This is normal.  If you want the grub menu, hold down shift (or any
>>     > other key really).
>>     >
>>    Well, at least some text suggesting that you might do so would be good,
>>    I thing
>>
>> +1
>> could be something like:
>> "<label> is starting in <x> seconds" on top
>> and
>> "press any key to see the boot menu" on bottom ...
>>
>
> Not only good - it should be a requirement before F10 ships.
> A boot screen without that kind of feedback would be a major
> regression.
> --
>        --Per Bothner
> per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

+1 for rme too :)


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M@
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From marco.crosio at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 18:12:04 2008
From: marco.crosio at gmail.com (Marco Crosio)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:12:04 +0200
Subject: VLC
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810150825n132a172elcf4c7c8b9da15daf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810150825n132a172elcf4c7c8b9da15daf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <390328ce0810151112m53ed8618u75fe0162111d8688@mail.gmail.com>

mulimedia in a modern operating system is very important :)

and must be an easy experience for users.

this is my two cent opinion.


2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>
> I am running VLC from RPMFusion
> >From a previous post, I said that VLC with latest kernel from koij is
> o.k.: this is true for radio stream but not for a Mp3 file.
> Rhythmbox plays fine the mp3 file. from time to time crashes on radiostreams...
>
> I still think that Multimedia is one of the point were the user take
> any decision...my two cents.
> How many are of the same opinion???
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list



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Asluz.
M@
-----------------------------------------------
Non vergognarti di non sapere... vergognati di non voler imparare!



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 18:14:30 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:14:30 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing Questions
Message-ID: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com>

Couple of questions:

1) After running this:

./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
512 --swap-size-mb 1024 F10-Snap1-i686-Live/F10-Snap1-i686-Live.iso 
/dev/sdb1


I have 32 k left on the card. Is that an issue? I am assuming I am 
writing to the overlay.

2) Are any of the followng worthy of bugs:

- font pixels per inch defaults to 201 for new installs
- I have to select subpixel smoothing for new installs.
- Selected widgets appear blacnk (select boxes, text fields, buttons)

-- bk



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Wed Oct 15 18:20:52 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:20:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1224074241.12340.129.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810150927190.21142@sandbox.cz>
	<1224074241.12340.129.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810152020010.24559@sandbox.cz>

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote:

> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:29 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote:
>> Moreover if you press esc during this boot to see
>> service starting messages, and then press esc again to hide it, then
>> progressbar starts again from the beginning. Bit confusing.
>
> This is new and probably worth filing against plymouth
>
> Thanks,

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467100

>
> Jeremy
>

Adam Pribyl



From mike.cloaked at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 18:21:42 2008
From: mike.cloaked at gmail.com (Mike)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:21:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: bodhi comment becomes anonymous
References: <loom.20081015T113350-811@post.gmane.org>
	<20081015154211.GA15239@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <loom.20081015T182037-883@post.gmane.org>

Bruno Wolff III <bruno <at> wolff.to> writes:

> I think you need to actually login to not be considered anonymous.

You mean you have to have a Fedora account before you can make 
non-anonymous comments? 






From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Wed Oct 15 18:34:12 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:34:12 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: radeonhd 1.2.2/3 in F10?
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810152031320.24559@sandbox.cz>

Any chance this update can get in F10 release?

Adam Pribyl



From dan at danny.cz  Wed Oct 15 18:39:39 2008
From: dan at danny.cz (Dan =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hor=E1k?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:39:39 +0200
Subject: radeonhd 1.2.2/3 in F10?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810152031320.24559@sandbox.cz>
References: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810152031320.24559@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <1224095979.3623.51.camel@eagle.danny.cz>


Adam Pribyl p??e v St 15. 10. 2008 v 20:34 +0200:
> Any chance this update can get in F10 release?

it should already be there -
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=66269


		Dan

-- 
Fedora and Red Hat package maintainer



From idht4n at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 18:44:40 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:44:40 -0700
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
Message-ID: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>

I have two different f10beta systems that intermittently hang.  They
appear completely
frozen.  The X screen freezes, the mouse pointer is visible but
doesn't move.  The
keyboard lock lights are unaffected by pressing the lock buttons.
REISUB doesn't work
(or at least I don't think it does... I might have pressed the wrong
keys).  This problem did
not happen in f9 and it happens every few hours of use in f10beta
(updated yesterday).

The systems share little in common other than being x86's.  One of
them is one of
those original Via Lindows boxes Walmart sold several years ago.  The other is a
Dell Precision 380 with ATI video.

Is there any productive information I can provide on this problem?

Cheers,

            David



From jameshubbard at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 18:54:10 2008
From: jameshubbard at gmail.com (James Hubbard)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:54:10 -0400
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f3ddc6d30810151154o24816750u6047ba28287efa7@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:44 PM, David L <idht4n at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have two different f10beta systems that intermittently hang.  They
> appear completely
> frozen.  The X screen freezes, the mouse pointer is visible but
> doesn't move.  The
> keyboard lock lights are unaffected by pressing the lock buttons.
> REISUB doesn't work
> (or at least I don't think it does... I might have pressed the wrong
> keys).  This problem did
> not happen in f9 and it happens every few hours of use in f10beta
> (updated yesterday).
>
> The systems share little in common other than being x86's.  One of
> them is one of
> those original Via Lindows boxes Walmart sold several years ago.  The other is a
> Dell Precision 380 with ATI video.
>
> Is there any productive information I can provide on this problem?

I have this problem as well, except it doesn't happen if I don't log
in.  I've been using ssh from another computer and it works fine.
When I login and lock the screen, it will freeze around the 2 hour
mark.  I don't know that for a fact, but it seems about the right
time.  I also believe that it will respond to pings, but I won't swear
to it.  I've got the power mgmt settings set to put the screen to
sleep after 15 minutes and set to Never suspend the machine.    I've
been meaning to turn off display sleep, but haven't tried it yet.

I'm using an update F10 Snap 1 release on x86_64.
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_40f59bc4-1c21-470b-88bc-1aeefda634b4



From jlaska at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 19:01:08 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:01:08 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing Questions
In-Reply-To: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com>
References: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224097268.3737.18.camel@flatline>

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> 
> - font pixels per inch defaults to 201 for new installs
> - I have to select subpixel smoothing for new installs.

Should sub-pixel smoothing be the default for GNOME?  Or is this
specific to the XO?

> - Selected widgets appear blacnk (select boxes, text fields, buttons)

I believe that is a known issue on the FedoraOnXo blocker list
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462531

Thanks,
James

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From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 15 20:24:10 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher Stover)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:24:10 -0500
Subject: PackageKit hangs
Message-ID: <BAY124-W431DE5BA64242A7018FCAED9300@phx.gbl>


I'm having troubles with PackageKit sometimes.  If I enable a repo that it can't connect to, such as trying to connect to the new RPM Fusion Free Testing, it just sits there and says "Enabling Repository (Waiting for other tasks)" but there's no other tasks.  I also can't cancel it so it's like there's no time out for it trying to connect or something.  Anyone else experience any issues like this?

Chris



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed Oct 15 21:17:48 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:17:48 -0700
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-14
In-Reply-To: <981da310810141430q60845e09ga2b34947258566d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F4DB6C.2020302@redhat.com>
	<981da310810141430q60845e09ga2b34947258566d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F65DFC.1010400@redhat.com>

Brennan Ashton said the following on 10/14/2008 02:30 PM Pacific Time:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:48 AM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com> wrote:
>> Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-14
>>
>> Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.
>>
>> == Attendees ==
>> * jlaska
>> * ke4qqq
>> * poelcat
>> * jds2001
>>
>> == Last Week Followups ==
>> * jds2001 reports that FTBS is resolved
>> * poelcat reports that FEver is still in process
>> * poelcat to update BugZapper's wiki with bullets on why bug triage is important to Fedora
>> ** we have great information about the '''how''' of bug triage, but not the '''why''' or '''so what'''
>> * no update from comphappy on greasemonkey scripts
> 
> I got the Feature Requests for the GS scripts, but have not had the
> time to implement them yet. I should have the changes implemented some
> time tonight.
> 

Excellent!  Please let us know when they are ready and where to pull the 
latest script from.

Thanks for all your work on this.

John



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 21:24:32 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:24:32 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing Questions
In-Reply-To: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com>
References: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224105872.13861.98.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> 2) Are any of the followng worthy of bugs:
> 
> - font pixels per inch defaults to 201 for new installs

This is (almost) accurate, although meaningless due to the nature of the
XO's display.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

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From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 21:27:13 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:27:13 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing Questions
In-Reply-To: <1224097268.3737.18.camel@flatline>
References: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com> <1224097268.3737.18.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <1224106033.13861.102.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 15:01 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> > - I have to select subpixel smoothing for new installs.
> 
> Should sub-pixel smoothing be the default for GNOME?  Or is this
> specific to the XO?

It really is only applicable for LCD and similar displays (it tends to
be pointless on CRTs). Additionally, the underlying mechanism may need
to be modified for optimal results on the XO's display.

-- 
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From kwizart at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 21:44:43 2008
From: kwizart at gmail.com (KH KH)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:44:43 +0200
Subject: VLC
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810150825n132a172elcf4c7c8b9da15daf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810150825n132a172elcf4c7c8b9da15daf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e1760170810151444k23ea3e70l1413efe7832645b5@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> I am running VLC from RPMFusion
> >From a previous post, I said that VLC with latest kernel from koij is
> o.k.: this is true for radio stream but not for a Mp3 file.
And what codec was used for your radio stream ?
> Rhythmbox plays fine the mp3 file. from time to time crashes on radiostreams...
Which bugreport for the crash ?
>
> I still think that Multimedia is one of the point were the user take
> any decision...my two cents.
What is the aim of theses words ? even win32 doesn't have most codec
installed out of the box!
Does it means it doesn't fit your multimedia needs ?
> How many are of the same opinion???
Nothing has been dropped, so you will have theses feature taken with
care the same as if they were in fedora.
But there is no reason why they will be in fedora in the near future.
So please join the rpmfusion mailing list for questions related to
this repository.

Nicolas (kwizart)
>
> --



From arch at tuparks.com  Wed Oct 15 21:53:28 2008
From: arch at tuparks.com (Arch Willingham)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:53:28 -0400
Subject: Using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia with F10?
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810150651i75a42231mb363442409296606@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF85433780A17ED@hall.tup.com>
	<1224052642.2820.3.camel@pc-notebook>
	<F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543379A155EE@hall.tup.com>
	<4c37b6af0810150651i75a42231mb363442409296606@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543379A15610@hall.tup.com>

Cool.....before I read your response I did this:

rpm -ivh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm

rpm -ivh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm

Will that work the same way?

Arch

-----Original Message-----
From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Antonio M
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:51 AM
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
Subject: Re: Using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia with F10?

2008/10/15 Arch Willingham <arch at tuparks.com>:
> How do you enable Rpmfusion in F10?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Arch
>
if you update to livna-release-9.90-1, RpmFusion is magically mounted....



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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 22:08:34 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:08:34 +0200
Subject: Using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia with F10?
In-Reply-To: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543379A15610@hall.tup.com>
References: <F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF85433780A17ED@hall.tup.com>
	<1224052642.2820.3.camel@pc-notebook>
	<F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543379A155EE@hall.tup.com>
	<4c37b6af0810150651i75a42231mb363442409296606@mail.gmail.com>
	<F3B98AF0D07E84428BBDE6B9EB1CF8543379A15610@hall.tup.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810151508k31dbc8dck58f5d9cdd6e067b7@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 Arch Willingham <arch at tuparks.com>:
> Cool.....before I read your response I did this:
>
> rpm -ivh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm
>
> rpm -ivh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm
>
> Will that work the same way?
>
> Arch
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Antonio M
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:51 AM
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
> Subject: Re: Using Rpmfusion vs. Livnia with F10?
>
> 2008/10/15 Arch Willingham <arch at tuparks.com>:
>> How do you enable Rpmfusion in F10?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Arch
>>
> if you update to livna-release-9.90-1, RpmFusion is magically mounted....
>
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
> --
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yes...


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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 15 22:59:16 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:59:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081015 changes
Message-ID: <20081015225916.567ED1B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed Oct 15 17:10:58 UTC 2008

New package dnstracer
        Trace a DNS record to its start of authority
New package ebnetd
        EBNET protocol server
New package gromacs
        GROMACS binaries
New package httperf
        Tool for measuring web server performance
New package hunspell-br
        Breton hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-te
        Telugu hunspell dictionaries
New package insight
        Graphical debugger based on GDB
New package perl-Padre
        Perl Application Development and Refactoring Environment
New package python-pmw
        Python powerwidgets
Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.0-0.11.svn4175.fc10
-------------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 1:0.7.0-11.svn4175
- Fix password issue with configurations that don't save the user password
	in the keyring (rh #466864)


amanda-2.5.2p1-13.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Daniel Novotny <dnovotny at redhat.com> 2.5.2.p1-13 
- --with-tcpportrange removed again (people getting AVC denies, #462681)


anaconda-11.4.1.49-1
--------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.49-1
- Make kickstart installs work again (#374271, #392021, #448096, #466340,
  - Let users go Back when loading updates. (dcantrell)
- Write ifcfg files to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts instead of /.tmp
  (dcantrell)
- Handle unknown hosts in getDefaultHostname (#466775) (dcantrell)
- Try to look up the hostname by the IP address NM reports (#466775)
  (dcantrell)
- NM no longer provides the hostname as a property (#466775). (clumens)
- ext4dev -> ext4 (esandeen). (clumens)
- Move persistent network udev rule to under /etc (#464844). (clumens)
- Update keymaps to include latest Romanian settings (#466117). (clumens)
- Take ip= parameter values by not resetting ipinfo_set. (dcantrell)


blender-2.48-1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 2.48-1
- New upstream release
- Build agains system glew library (#466755)


bluez-4.13-3.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.13-3
- Update udev rules (#246840)


bluez-gnome-1.8-3.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.8-3
- Add patches to clean up the button list (#465398)


bug-buddy-2.24.0-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.0-3
- Don't install unused files

- Don't install unused files

- Don't install unused files

- Don't install unused files


ca-certificates-2008-7
----------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 2008-7
- update to certdata.txt r1.49


cobbler-1.2.8-1.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Michael DeHaan <mdehaan at redhat.com> - 1.2.8-1
- Upstream changes (see CHANGELOG)

* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Michael DeHaan <mdehaan at redhat.com> - 1.2.7-1
- Upstream changes (see CHANGELOG)


eclipse-pydev-1.3.20-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Michal Nowak <mnowak at redhat.com> 1:1.3.20-1
- bump to 1.3.20
- created general versioning scheme for version tag & tarball URI)
- sed: /usr/local/bin/python -> /usr/bin/env python in Jython's cgi.py
- convert .py$ files from mode 0644 to mode 0755
- possibility to convert '\r\n' end-of-lines to *nix-like '\n'
  in all '.py$' files


eclipse-setools-3.3.2.4-3.fc10
------------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> - 3.3.2.4-3
- Rebuild to move in dropins.

* Thu Jul 31 18:00:00 2008 Dave Sugar <dsugar at tresys.com> - 3.3.2.4-2
- update for F10 layout changes for Eclipse 3.4


eclipse-slide-1.3.9-3.fc10
--------------------------
* Fri Aug  8 18:00:00 2008 Dave Sugar <dsugar at tresys.com> - 1.3.9-3
- change from libdir to datadir as base for install

* Thu Jul 31 18:00:00 2008 Dave Sugar <dsugar at tresys.com> - 1.3.9-2
- update for F10 layout changes for Eclipse 3.4


eel2-2.24.0-5.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-5
- Fix crossfade from login session now that g-s-d race
  is fixed.


Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	ibus-m17n-latin-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.i386 requires latin
	ibus-m17n-latin-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.i386 requires t-latn
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	ibus-m17n-syriac-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.i386 requires t-syrc
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



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----------------------------------------------------------
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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



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----------------------------------------------------------
	ibus-m17n-latin-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.ppc requires latin
	ibus-m17n-latin-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.ppc requires t-latn
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	ibus-m17n-syriac-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.ppc requires t-syrc
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



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	ibus-m17n-latin-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.ppc64 requires latin
	ibus-m17n-latin-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.ppc64 requires t-latn
	ibus-m17n-syriac-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.ppc64 requires syriac
	ibus-m17n-syriac-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.ppc64 requires t-syrc
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 16 00:46:05 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher Stover)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:46:05 -0500
Subject: Sound issues
Message-ID: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl>


I'm having some really strange sound issues.  I use Rhythmbox to listen to mp3s and radio stations.  After a while, maybe 20-30 min, the music will just stop.  I'll try to play another song or another radio station and I'll hear a second or so of music, then a pause then a split second and nothing else.  During this time, the elapsed time for the song stays at 0:00.  I've figured out that if I type pulseaudio -k I get the following:

[Chris at localhost ~]$ pulseaudio -k
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
N: main.c: Called SUID root and real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration. However, we lack the necessary priviliges:
N: main.c: We are not in group 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us priviliges. Dropping SUID again.
N: main.c: For enabling real-time scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit priviliges, or become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO resource limits for this user.
W: main.c: High-priority scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.

I then start VLC, play an mp3 and I get all the distorted sound that people have been talking about but it plays.  I got this on the command line from VLC which looks pulseaudio related:

I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.

Finally, if I close VLC and open Rhythmbox, I can miraculously listen to the radio and mp3s!

Chris



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct 16 01:15:18 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:15:18 -0700
Subject: rawhide report: 20081015 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081015225916.567ED1B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
References: <20081015225916.567ED1B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224119718.4122.63.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 22:59 +0000, Rawhide Report wrote:
> Updated Packages:

Couple things.

1) It looks like the diff got cut off somewhere, not sure what's up
there, will investigate tomorrow.

2) We're now using unique metadata names in the yum repodata.  This
should help proxies and such.  Please report any problems experienced
that could potentially have to do with this change.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From jimhayward at embarqmail.com  Thu Oct 16 01:40:15 2008
From: jimhayward at embarqmail.com (Jim Hayward)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:40:15 -0700
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
In-Reply-To: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield>

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 11:44 -0700, David L wrote:
> I have two different f10beta systems that intermittently hang.  They
> appear completely
> frozen.  The X screen freezes, the mouse pointer is visible but
> doesn't move.  The
> keyboard lock lights are unaffected by pressing the lock buttons.
> REISUB doesn't work
> (or at least I don't think it does... I might have pressed the wrong
> keys).  This problem did
> not happen in f9 and it happens every few hours of use in f10beta
> (updated yesterday).

I can add a "me too" for this problem. F9 was rock solid stable. A clean
install of F10beta will lock up randomly. Sometimes within minutes of
logging in. Using Firefox seems to make the lockups occur more
frequent. 

Are you seeing any screen corruption? Occasionally I will see some.

> The systems share little in common other than being x86's.  One of
> them is one of
> those original Via Lindows boxes Walmart sold several years ago.  The other is a
> Dell Precision 380 with ATI video.
> 

A home built system here. Probably about three and half years old now.
It does have an AGP ATI Radeon 9800 PRO. Does your Walmart box also have
ATI video?


Regards,
	Jim H



From bashton at brennanashton.com  Thu Oct 16 01:55:27 2008
From: bashton at brennanashton.com (Brennan Ashton)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:55:27 -0700
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-14
In-Reply-To: <48F65DFC.1010400@redhat.com>
References: <48F4DB6C.2020302@redhat.com>
	<981da310810141430q60845e09ga2b34947258566d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F65DFC.1010400@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <981da310810151855l18a321dfl619c01fb5e72ebd2@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:17 PM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com> wrote:
> Brennan Ashton said the following on 10/14/2008 02:30 PM Pacific Time:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:48 AM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-14
>>>
>>> Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.
>>>
>>> == Attendees ==
>>> * jlaska
>>> * ke4qqq
>>> * poelcat
>>> * jds2001
>>>
>>> == Last Week Followups ==
>>> * jds2001 reports that FTBS is resolved
>>> * poelcat reports that FEver is still in process
>>> * poelcat to update BugZapper's wiki with bullets on why bug triage is
>>> important to Fedora
>>> ** we have great information about the '''how''' of bug triage, but not
>>> the '''why''' or '''so what'''
>>> * no update from comphappy on greasemonkey scripts
>>
>> I got the Feature Requests for the GS scripts, but have not had the
>> time to implement them yet. I should have the changes implemented some
>> time tonight.
>>
>
> Excellent!  Please let us know when they are ready and where to pull the
> latest script from.
>
> Thanks for all your work on this.
>
> John
>
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>

A new version with these changes is located here:
http://bashton.fedorapeople.org/bugzilla_buttons_for_fed.user.js
Please give it a try and send me any bugs you find.



From linux at elfshadow.net  Thu Oct 16 01:59:13 2008
From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:59:13 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <1224076307.10125.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com> <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>
	<1224076307.10125.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <10e0a9b00810151859q521a57bo33a4b08a320ebd66@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Michael Solberg <msolberg at redhat.com> wrote:
> Also - swap is essential -
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance#Swap_space.3F
>
> has instructions for turning on swap once your XO has booted.

I turned added a swap file using the directions above and this has
made a large difference for me.  Last night I was experiencing freezes
after a short period of time, preceded by things getting quite slow.
Tonight, after enabling swap I have been able to navigate around
pretty well and even run FireFox for a bit - though the swap usage was
creeping up while using FireFox.

Definitely much more usable with the swap file.

I did do a small bit of tuning with the Gnome session, turning off the
following items:

Bluetooth Manager
GNOME Splash Screen
Network Authentication
PackageKit Update Applet
Print Queue Applet
SELinux Troubleshooter
User Sharing

~Jeffrey



From jamundso at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 02:30:41 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:30:41 -0500
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-14
In-Reply-To: <981da310810151855l18a321dfl619c01fb5e72ebd2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F4DB6C.2020302@redhat.com>
	<981da310810141430q60845e09ga2b34947258566d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F65DFC.1010400@redhat.com>
	<981da310810151855l18a321dfl619c01fb5e72ebd2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810151930u3ebae013y353092b0d98ff34d@mail.gmail.com>

These are, perhaps, horribly newbie questions, but it's late and I
don't feel much like researching...

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Brennan Ashton
<bashton at brennanashton.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:17 PM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com> wrote:
>> Brennan Ashton said the following on 10/14/2008 02:30 PM Pacific Time:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:48 AM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> * no update from comphappy on greasemonkey scripts
>>>
>>> I got the Feature Requests for the GS scripts, but have not had the
>>> time to implement them yet. I should have the changes implemented some
>>> time tonight.

Why does GS translate to "greasemonkey".

> A new version with these changes is located here:
> http://bashton.fedorapeople.org/bugzilla_buttons_for_fed.user.js
> Please give it a try and send me any bugs you find.

How do we try it out?

thanks,
jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From bashton at brennanashton.com  Thu Oct 16 02:38:24 2008
From: bashton at brennanashton.com (Brennan Ashton)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:38:24 -0700
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-14
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810151930u3ebae013y353092b0d98ff34d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F4DB6C.2020302@redhat.com>
	<981da310810141430q60845e09ga2b34947258566d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F65DFC.1010400@redhat.com>
	<981da310810151855l18a321dfl619c01fb5e72ebd2@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810151930u3ebae013y353092b0d98ff34d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <981da310810151938r5a12c916g373b5a2de0c8a0f2@mail.gmail.com>

First there was some issues with a few of the strings in the script
that I just posted the script at the same location is correct now.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> These are, perhaps, horribly newbie questions, but it's late and I
> don't feel much like researching...
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Brennan Ashton
> <bashton at brennanashton.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:17 PM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Brennan Ashton said the following on 10/14/2008 02:30 PM Pacific Time:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:48 AM, John Poelstra <poelstra at redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> * no update from comphappy on greasemonkey scripts
>>>>
>>>> I got the Feature Requests for the GS scripts, but have not had the
>>>> time to implement them yet. I should have the changes implemented some
>>>> time tonight.
>
> Why does GS translate to "greasemonkey".
Because my mind is going, and I mashed greasemonkey and javascript together
>
>> A new version with these changes is located here:
>> http://bashton.fedorapeople.org/bugzilla_buttons_for_fed.user.js
>> Please give it a try and send me any bugs you find.
>
> How do we try it out?
You need to download greasemonkey and then click the link from within
firefox it will ask you to install it.
You will notice some changes to the individual bug pages mainly the
addition of some buttons around the comment box, and the moving of the
comment box to above the comments.   When you click the buttons they
fill some of the forms out, you still must click commit when you are
happy with your changes. You can also pop into #fedora-qa and message
me 'comphappy' I will be on most of the evening.

>
> thanks,
> jerry
>
> --
> There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".
>
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From idht4n at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 03:14:19 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:14:19 -0700
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
In-Reply-To: <1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield>
References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield>
Message-ID: <b79371120810152014r5b6df512w3b26bcd2a306f51e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Jim Hayward <jimhayward at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 11:44 -0700, David L wrote:
>> I have two different f10beta systems that intermittently hang.  They
>> appear completely
>> frozen.
<snip>
> Are you seeing any screen corruption? Occasionally I will see some.
On the Dell box with ATI, I see some screen corruption.  It got better after
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464853 was fixed, but
I still see some corruption... usually of icons, but sometimes horizontal
bands in terminals.

>
>> The systems share little in common other than being x86's.  One of
>> them is one of
>> those original Via Lindows boxes Walmart sold several years ago.  The other is a
>> Dell Precision 380 with ATI video.
>>
>
> A home built system here. Probably about three and half years old now.
> It does have an AGP ATI Radeon 9800 PRO. Does your Walmart box also have
> ATI video?

No... the Walmart box has S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]:

http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_a8699ae2-941e-4529-859d-b910cbd40819

The profile for the Dell box is here:
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_d49c89b4-8ca6-4c42-9edf-2d7ab3532390

I guess it's possible that the lockups on the two boxes are from unrelated bugs.

Cheers...

          David



From petersen at redhat.com  Thu Oct 16 04:59:19 2008
From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:59:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081015 changes
In-Reply-To: <661989927.1124051224133097928.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1127282423.1124121224133159152.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

> 	ibus-m17n-latin-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.i386 requires latin
> 	ibus-m17n-latin-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.i386 requires t-latn
> 	ibus-m17n-syriac-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.i386 requires syriac
> 	ibus-m17n-syriac-0.1.1.20081013-2.fc10.i386 requires t-syrc

should be fixed by ibus-m17n-0.1.1.20081013-3.fc10



From caf at omen.com  Thu Oct 16 05:39:10 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:39:10 -0700
Subject: Good Riddance to Intel DG45ID Mobo
Message-ID: <48F6D37E.4090102@omen.com>

I took the DG45ID back to Fry's and got an MAS p43ne03.
The p43neo3 works much better with Rawhide.


I new have 32 bit Rawhide running on the MSI mobo
with an Nvidia Geforce 9600GT and Nvidia's driver.
Compiz works again.  The sound works normally
as the ALC888 sound chip does not require software
to designate input and output jacks.

The board has 6 SATA jacks on the ich10 chip.
A JMicro chip adds two more SATA and an IDE.
Note that Ubuntu 8.04 cannot see the first six SATA
devices.

The current BIOS version is 1.50.  The one that came
with the board had some issues.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 06:15:46 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:15:46 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/16 Christopher Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>
> I'm having some really strange sound issues.  I use Rhythmbox to listen to mp3s and radio stations.  After a while, maybe 20-30 min, the music will just stop.  I'll try to play another song or another radio station and I'll hear a second or so of music, then a pause then a split second and nothing else.  During this time, the elapsed time for the song stays at 0:00.  I've figured out that if I type pulseaudio -k I get the following:
>
> [Chris at localhost ~]$ pulseaudio -k
> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
> N: main.c: Called SUID root and real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration. However, we lack the necessary priviliges:
> N: main.c: We are not in group 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us priviliges. Dropping SUID again.
> N: main.c: For enabling real-time scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit priviliges, or become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO resource limits for this user.
> W: main.c: High-priority scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.
>
> I then start VLC, play an mp3 and I get all the distorted sound that people have been talking about but it plays.  I got this on the command line from VLC which looks pulseaudio related:
>
> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>
> Finally, if I close VLC and open Rhythmbox, I can miraculously listen to the radio and mp3s!
>
> Chris
>
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I have exactly same issues....and tnx for the post that clarifies to
me what happens.
The problem is: what is the component to be filed against in
bugzilla??? pulseaudio??
Furthermore I find that some problem can arise from the fact that
pulseaudio is in rawhide, while most of tools for multimedia (i.e. mp3
codecs) are out of those boundaries....
For your information latest kernel (.13) makes a better job about multimedia.

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From jamundso at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 06:20:25 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:20:25 -0500
Subject: Good Riddance to Intel DG45ID Mobo
In-Reply-To: <48F6D37E.4090102@omen.com>
References: <48F6D37E.4090102@omen.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810152320m23f9e78ev3904a5e977566355@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
<caf at omen.com> wrote:
> I took the DG45ID back to Fry's and got an MAS p43ne03.

Amen!

> The p43neo3 works much better with Rawhide.

Did you have a feeling "it would just work", or did you research it to
find out the specs, etc?

> I new have 32 bit Rawhide running on the MSI mobo
> with an Nvidia Geforce 9600GT and Nvidia's driver.
> Compiz works again.  The sound works normally
> as the ALC888 sound chip does not require software
> to designate input and output jacks.

Somewhat OT: any audio experts out there that saw this coming? I never
knew it was even possible, and searching has not provided me with
anything, even the mobo's site mentions nothing about selective
input/output on the same jack!
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/dg45id/dg45id-overview.htm

> The board has 6 SATA jacks on the ich10 chip.
> A JMicro chip adds two more SATA and an IDE.

Nice! (Though, seriously, of what practical use is 8 SATA devices, and
how would they connect?)

> Note that Ubuntu 8.04 cannot see the first six SATA
> devices.

Hmm, kernel version vs. rawhide's maybe?

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 06:24:49 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:24:49 +0200
Subject: VLC
In-Reply-To: <e1760170810151444k23ea3e70l1413efe7832645b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810150825n132a172elcf4c7c8b9da15daf@mail.gmail.com>
	<e1760170810151444k23ea3e70l1413efe7832645b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810152324t201ab588o50f4d0b62aa617ed@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 KH KH <kwizart at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/15 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> I am running VLC from RPMFusion
>> >From a previous post, I said that VLC with latest kernel from koij is
>> o.k.: this is true for radio stream but not for a Mp3 file.
> And what codec was used for your radio stream ?

I was playing this stream http://stream-3.ssatr.ch:80/rsp/mp3 with mpga coder

>> Rhythmbox plays fine the mp3 file. from time to time crashes on radiostreams...
> Which bugreport for the crash ?

Problem is already in bugzilla, see also another post of few hours
ago: but I have found that sometimes problems come from Rhythmbox,
sometimes from pulseaudio, sometimes from kernel, so bug-filing
sometimes is not easy....

>>
>> I still think that Multimedia is one of the point were the user take
>> any decision...my two cents.
> What is the aim of theses words ? even win32 doesn't have most codec
> installed out of the box!
> Does it means it doesn't fit your multimedia needs ?

If you find that multimedia tools are fine and an unexperienced user
can set a box in a short time and play every stream on the Net, it is
your opinion that I respect.
As I refer to me as a poweruser :-) I find that setting multimedia is
always a pain, and it might keep many would-like-to-be-users out of
the stage.In Windows generally you use WindowsMediaPlayer and/or
Realplayer and most of codecs are magically installed, believe or not

>> How many are of the same opinion???
> Nothing has been dropped, so you will have theses feature taken with
> care the same as if they were in fedora.
> But there is no reason why they will be in fedora in the near future.
> So please join the rpmfusion mailing list for questions related to
> this repository.
>

joined last night...

>
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>

Tnx for help

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 07:08:33 2008
From: linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com (Joey Krane)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:38:33 +0530
Subject: Good Riddance to Intel DG45ID Mobo
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810152320m23f9e78ev3904a5e977566355@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F6D37E.4090102@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810152320m23f9e78ev3904a5e977566355@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2411f6b20810160008o56faa8c2kae9cea1bebe918f7@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
> <caf at omen.com> wrote:
> > I took the DG45ID back to Fry's and got an MAS p43ne03.
>
>

Sorry I just joined the list. This board is on my list to buy for a couple
of months.

Could you summarize what happened with FC 10 and why you are talking it
back??

I assumed all hardware should just work except for the IGP ofcourse which is
new (even that has support in the newer intel drivers).

Thanks,
Steve
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From linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 07:31:01 2008
From: linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com (Joey Krane)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:01:01 +0530
Subject: Bluetooth headset progress with F10
Message-ID: <2411f6b20810160031r39892d7fn75fd4907ef695edc@mail.gmail.com>

I inserted my Belkin USB bluetooth adapter

<snip>
Oct 16 12:24:00 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using
ohci_hcd and address 3
Oct 16 12:24:00 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Oct 16 12:24:00 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device found,
idVendor=050d, idProduct=0081
Oct 16 12:24:00 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0,
Product=0, SerialNumber=0
Oct 16 12:24:01 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: Core ver 2.13
Oct 16 12:24:01 localhost kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 31
Oct 16 12:24:01 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: HCI device and connection
manager initialized
Oct 16 12:24:01 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
Oct 16 12:24:01 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: Generic Bluetooth USB driver
ver 0.3
Oct 16 12:24:01 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver
btusb
Oct 16 12:27:48 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Bluetooth daemon
Oct 16 12:27:48 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Starting SDP server
Oct 16 12:27:48 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.11
Oct 16 12:27:48 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
Oct 16 12:27:48 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Parsing
/etc/bluetooth/input.conf failed: No such file or directory
Oct 16 12:27:48 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Parsing
/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf failed: No such file or directory
Oct 16 12:27:48 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link) ver 0.6
Oct 16 12:27:48 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
Oct 16 12:27:48 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Parsing
/etc/bluetooth/network.conf failed: No such file or directory
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver
1.3
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol
multicast
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost kernel: Bridge firewalling registered
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: bridge pan0 created
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: HCI dev 0 registered
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost kernel: pan0: Dropping NETIF_F_UFO since no
NETIF_F_HW_CSUM feature.
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: HCI dev 0 up
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Registered interface
org.bluez.Service on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.10
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Registered interface
org.bluez.SerialProxyManager on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Registered interface
org.bluez.NetworkPeer on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Registered interface
org.bluez.NetworkHub on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Registered interface
org.bluez.NetworkRouter on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Adapter /org/bluez/hci0 has been
enabled
</snip>

Then the bluetooth icon appeared on the task bar. I clicked "Setup new
device" and it showed me the mac id of the device (Jabra 125 hradset).
On selecting it and clicking forward, just closed the window and nothing
happened (I tried this about 3 times).  Here are the logs,

<snip>
Oct 16 12:27:49 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Starting security manager 0
Oct 16 12:27:58 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0ea096f0
with :1.49 activated
Oct 16 12:28:07 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0ea096f0
with :1.49 deactivated
Oct 16 12:28:32 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0e9fadd0
with :1.50 activated
Oct 16 12:28:41 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0e9fadd0
with :1.50 deactivated
Oct 16 12:28:53 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0e9fadd0
with :1.51 activated
Oct 16 12:29:00 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0e9fadd0
with :1.51 deactivated
Oct 16 12:31:14 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0e9fadd0
with :1.52 activated
Oct 16 12:31:20 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0e9fadd0
with :1.52 deactivated
Oct 16 12:33:07 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0ea06ba0
with :1.53 activated
Oct 16 12:33:14 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Discovery session 0x7f5c0ea06ba0
with :1.53 deactivated
</snip>

Then, I opened a terminal and ran these,

<snip>
[root at localhost jk]# hcitool scan
Scanning ...
    00:1D:82:3C:62:E2    Jabra BT125
[root at localhost jk]# hcitool cc 00:1D:82:3C:62:E2
[root at localhost jk]#
</snip>

Then, I ran "Seyp nre device" again and this time, it showed me the name
"Jabra 125" instead of the mac id. On selecting the device and clicking
"Forward", I get a next screen that says "Please enter PIN 0000". After
wating a few seconds it said something about "connect" I dont remember.

<snip>
Oct 16 12:33:15 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: link_key_request
(sba=00:0A:3A:50:1F:2D, dba=00:1D:82:3C:62:E2)
Oct 16 12:33:15 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: pin_code_request
(sba=00:0A:3A:50:1F:2D, dba=00:1D:82:3C:62:E2)
Oct 16 12:33:15 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: link_key_notify
(sba=00:0A:3A:50:1F:2D, dba=00:1D:82:3C:62:E2)
Oct 16 12:33:19 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Registered interface
org.bluez.Input on path /org/bluez/hci0/dev_00_1D_82_3C_62_E2
Oct 16 12:33:19 localhost bluetoothd[2692]: Registered interface
org.bluez.Headset on path /org/bluez/hci0/dev_00_1D_82_3C_62_E2
</snip>

Here's additional info

<snip>
[root at localhost jk]# rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.27-0.352.rc7.git1.fc10.x86_64
kernel-2.6.27-3.fc10.x86_64
[root at localhost jk]# rpm -q bluez
bluez-4.13-2.fc10.x86_64
[root at localhost jk]#
</snip>

I tried sending this upstream to the bluetooth project list at
www.bluez.orgbut I'm new to majordomo.

I haven't really figured out how to use this device yet. But i'm so thrilled
that I got this far which I couldn't with Fedora 9!

Steve
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 16 10:05:09 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:05:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081016 changes
Message-ID: <20081016100510.0E8411B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu Oct 16 06:01:17 UTC 2008

New package darkice
        Live audio streamer
New package drascula
        Drascula: The Vampire Strikes Back
New package perl-DBD-Multi
        DB Proxy with failover and load balancing
New package perl-Net-SMTP-SSL
        SSL support for Net::SMTP
New package un-extra-fonts
        Un Extra family of Korean TrueType fonts
Updated Packages:

alex-2.3-1.fc10
---------------
* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Bryan O'Sullivan <bos at serpentine.com> - 2.3-1
- Update to 2.3

* Thu May 29 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2.2-3
- fix license tag


amarok-1.92.2-1.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.92.2-1
- 1.92.2


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.1.svn1353_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1353


clustermon-0.15.0-6.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Ryan McCabe <rmccabe at redhat.com> 0.15.0-6
- Don't make failing to update the cluster version a fatal error when trying to set a new configuration file.


clutter-gtk-0.8.2-1.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Allisson Azevedo <allisson at gmail.com> 0.8.2-1
- Update to 0.8.2


eclipse-cdt-5.0.0-7.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Jeff Johnston <jjohnstn at redhat.com> 5.0.0-7
- Change to use new linuxtools version of autotools-1.0.1.
- Add build of libhover plugins again from linuxtools.


gambit-c-4.2.9-1.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Michel Salim <salimma at fedoraproject.org> - 4.2.9-1
- Update to 4.2.9
- Disable Termite for now; still broken
- When built on EL-5, depend directly on emacs binary rather than emacs(bin)


gdm-2.24.0-10.fc10
------------------

gpodder-0.13.0-1.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct  9 18:00:00 2008 Jef Spaleta <jspaleta AT fedoraproject DOT org> 0.13.0-1
- 0.13 Series

* Sun Aug 10 18:00:00 2008 Jef Spaleta <jspaleta AT fedoraproject DOT org> 0.12.2-1
- Bugfix release of the 0.12.x series


hellanzb-0.13-6.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Conrad Meyer <konrad at tylerc.org> - 0.13-6
- Don't allow multiple groups as support for that is broken.


ibus-0.1.1.20081016-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081016-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081016.


ibus-m17n-0.1.1.20081013-3.fc10
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.1.1.20081013-3
- move the .engine files to m17n-db and m17n-contrib (#466410)


krusader-2.0.0-0.1.beta1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Marcin Garski <mgarski[AT]post.pl> 2.0.0-0.1.beta1
- Update to 2.0.0-beta1


liferea-1.4.20-2.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Steven M. Parrish <smparrish at shallowcreek.net> 1.4.20-2
- Add missing patch file

* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Steven M. Parrish <smparrish at shallowcreek.net> 1.4.20-1
- New upstream release and fix for #467083


m17n-contrib-1.1.7-4.fc10
-------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Parag Nemade <pnemade at redhat.com> - 1.5.2-4
- create .engine files for ibus-m17n with m17n-gen-ibus-engine (#466410)


m17n-db-1.5.2-3.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 1.5.2-3
- create .engine files for ibus-m17n with m17n-gen-ibus-engine (#466410)


man-pages-ja-20081015-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 20081015-1
- updates to 20081015.


manedit-1.2.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 1.2.1-1
- 1.2.1


merkaartor-0.12-2.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Sven Lankes <sven at lank.es> - 0.12-2
- remove additional source merkaartor.xpm - now included
- minor update of .desktop-file


mkinitrd-6.0.67-1.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 6.0.67-1
- Fix various live initrd + plymouth interactions
- Allow resetting the overlay at boot time for live initrd
- Don't make the eject failure with the live_ram case fatal (#466114)


mock-0.9.12-1.fc10
------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Clark Williams <williams at redhat.com> - 0.9.12-1
- internal setarch support for s390/s390x (mikem)
- Refer to the .newkey location of current Fedora 8/9 updates. (jkeating)
- [bz458234] Picked up corrected patch (pmatilai)


nted-1.3.3-1.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Hans Ulrich Niedermann <hun at n-dimensional.de> - 1.3.3-1
- Update to upstream's 1.3.3 release.


ntfs-3g-1.5012-1.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2:1.5012-1
- update to 1.5012 (same code as 1.2926-RC)


pitivi-0.11.2-1.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 0.11.2-1
- Update to 0.11.2


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.15.1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.5.0-0.2008.10.15.1
- Don't free windows on --hide-splash (fix from Jeremy)


publican-0.38-0.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Jeff Fearn <jfearn at redhat.com> 0.38
- Fix inline tags removing following new line in verbatim tags. BZ #461369
- Fix Numeration settings for HTML ordered lists. BZ #462601
- Fix PDF Example background color. BZ #463127
- Fix list item spacing. BZ #462673
- Fix translation report error on 2 charater langs, CSS, and layout. BZ #465201
- Added error for tgroup.cols not matching entry count. BZ #462205
- Fix TOC padding for appendix and glossary. BZ #462991
- Made comments in highlighted code more prominent. BZ #462552
- Added citerefentry, refentrytitle, and manvolnum to list of QA'd tags. BZ #464038
- Fixed '1' in ulink with no text. BZ #465411
- Change env path to be more portable. Patch by Artem Zolochevskiy . BZ #466194
- Added package meta to XHTML to allow content to be tracked to an RPM.
- Added catch for missing title and productname.
- Changed Formal Para Title to follow parent indent. BZ #466309
- Fix xmlClean not handling entity names with underscores or numbers. BZ #466994
- Fix clean_ids removing comments. BZ #467145
- Fix missing revhistory giving useless error. BZ #467147
- Stopped proecssing xml files in extras directory.
- Added conditional tagging to user Guide. By Don Domingo.


python-prioritized-methods-0.2.1-2.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.2.1-2
- Fix our python-peak-rules dependency


ricci-0.15.0-6.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Ryan McCabe <rmccabe at redhat.com> 0.15.0-6
- When setting a cluster.conf file with ccs_sync, only try to update the cman cluster version if the node is a member of a cluster.


scim-1.4.7-35.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <phuang at redhat.com> - 1.4.7-35
- Read data from WindowProperty properly (#466657) by Tagoh.


selinux-policy-3.5.12-2.fc10
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.12-2
- Fix labeling of libGL


setroubleshoot-2.0.12-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> - 2.0.12-1
- Update to upstream
  - 2008-10-06  Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com>
	- remove .png from desktop files


setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.9-1.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 <dwalsh at redhat.com> - 2.0.9-1
- Fix catchall_plugin


solar-backgrounds-0.90.0-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Martin Sourada <mso at fedoraproject.org> - 0.90.0-1
- New release, adds dual screen wallpapers


system-config-printer-1.0.8-5.fc10
----------------------------------

telepathy-gabble-0.7.10-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org> - 0.7.10-1
- Update to 0.7.10.


tuxguitar-1.0-8.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Orcan Ogetbil <orcanbahri[AT]yahoo[DOT]com> - 1.0-8
- Enabled the PDF plugin since all the dependencies are now provided in repos


Summary:
Added Packages: 5
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 36
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 16 11:40:55 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:40:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Denied avcs 
Message-ID: <950377.8195.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers and selinux experts,

I have encountered several avcs.  I want to ask you for advice before applying the suggested fixes.


Summary:

SELinux is preventing knotify4 from making the program stack executable.

Detailed Description:

The knotify4 application attempted to make its stack executable. This is a
potential security problem. This should never ever be necessary. Stack memory is
not executable on most OSes these days and this will not change. Executable
stack memory is one of the biggest security problems. An execstack error might
in fact be most likely raised by malicious code. Applications are sometimes
coded incorrectly and request this permission. The SELinux Memory Protection
Tests (http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html) web page explains how
to remove this requirement. If knotify4 does not work and you need it to work,
you can configure SELinux temporarily to allow this access until the application
is fixed. Please file a bug report
(http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi) against this package.

Allowing Access:

Sometimes a library is accidentally marked with the execstack flag, if you find
a library with this flag you can clear it with the execstack -c LIBRARY_PATH.
Then retry your application. If the app continues to not work, you can turn the
flag back on with execstack -s LIBRARY_PATH. Otherwise, if you trust knotify4 to
run correctly, you can change the context of the executable to
unconfined_execmem_exec_t. "chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t
'/usr/bin/knotify4'" You must also change the default file context files on the
system in order to preserve them even on a full relabel. "semanage fcontext -a
-t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'"

Fix Command:

chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'

Additional Information:

Source Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1
                              023
Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1
                              023
Target Objects                None [ process ]
Source                        knotify4
Source Path                   /usr/bin/knotify4
Port                          <Unknown>
Host                          riohigh
Source RPM Packages           kdebase-runtime-4.1.2-3.fc10
Target RPM Packages           
Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
Selinux Enabled               True
Policy Type                   targeted
MLS Enabled                   True
Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
Plugin Name                   allow_execstack
Host Name                     riohigh
Platform                      Linux riohigh 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 10
                              01:26:26 EDT 2008 i686 athlon
Alert Count                   2
First Seen                    Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:56 AM CDT
Last Seen                     Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:56 AM CDT
Local ID                      d2171be2-9d07-43e0-83bf-95f7f3e5e666
Line Numbers                  

Raw Audit Messages            

node=riohigh type=AVC msg=audit(1224156836.173:93): avc:  denied  { execstack } for  pid=2874 comm="knotify4" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=process

node=riohigh type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224156836.173:93): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bf9c9000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2874 auid=501 uid=501 gid=501 euid=501 suid=501 fsuid=501 egid=501 sgid=501 fsgid=501 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="knotify4" exe="/usr/bin/knotify4" subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)




Summary:

SELinux is preventing hal-acl-tool (hald_acl_t) "sys_resource" hald_acl_t.

Detailed Description:

SELinux denied access requested by hal-acl-tool. It is not expected that this
access is required by hal-acl-tool and this access may signal an intrusion
attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the
application is causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.

Additional Information:

Source Context                system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0
Target Context                system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0
Target Objects                None [ capability ]
Source                        hal-acl-tool
Source Path                   /usr/libexec/hal-acl-tool
Port                          <Unknown>
Host                          riohigh
Source RPM Packages           hal-0.5.12-3.20081013git.fc10
Target RPM Packages           
Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
Selinux Enabled               True
Policy Type                   targeted
MLS Enabled                   True
Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
Plugin Name                   catchall
Host Name                     riohigh
Platform                      Linux riohigh 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 10
                              01:26:26 EDT 2008 i686 athlon
Alert Count                   73
First Seen                    Sat 04 Oct 2008 11:10:27 AM CDT
Last Seen                     Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:03 AM CDT
Local ID                      16181f84-ddf2-4510-bd51-aef5ff647a63
Line Numbers                  

Raw Audit Messages            

node=riohigh type=AVC msg=audit(1224156783.891:89): avc:  denied  { sys_resource } for  pid=2568 comm="hal-acl-tool" capability=24 scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0 tclass=capability

node=riohigh type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224156783.891:89): arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=yes exit=2057 a0=5 a1=b7ff4000 a2=809 a3=809 items=0 ppid=1834 pid=2568 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="hal-acl-tool" exe="/usr/libexec/hal-acl-tool" subj=system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0 key=(null)



Summary:

SELinux is preventing console-kit-dae (consolekit_t) "sys_resource"
consolekit_t.

Detailed Description:

SELinux denied access requested by console-kit-dae. It is not expected that this
access is required by console-kit-dae and this access may signal an intrusion
attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the
application is causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.

Additional Information:

Source Context                system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
Target Context                system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
Target Objects                None [ capability ]
Source                        console-kit-dae
Source Path                   /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
Port                          <Unknown>
Host                          riohigh
Source RPM Packages           ConsoleKit-0.3.0-2.fc10
Target RPM Packages           
Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
Selinux Enabled               True
Policy Type                   targeted
MLS Enabled                   True
Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
Plugin Name                   catchall
Host Name                     riohigh
Platform                      Linux riohigh 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 10
                              01:26:26 EDT 2008 i686 athlon
Alert Count                   87
First Seen                    Fri 03 Oct 2008 06:14:33 PM CDT
Last Seen                     Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:02 AM CDT
Local ID                      0c8f36ea-d6b2-4646-ba59-1cdf5e6a0ee0
Line Numbers                  

Raw Audit Messages            

node=riohigh type=AVC msg=audit(1224156782.948:86): avc:  denied  { sys_resource } for  pid=1770 comm="console-kit-dae" capability=24 scontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=capability

node=riohigh type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224156782.948:86): arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=yes exit=674 a0=1a a1=8c4b790 a2=2a2 a3=8c4b790 items=0 ppid=1 pid=1770 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="console-kit-dae" exe="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon" subj=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)



I had not encountered these ones before.  And before applying the fixes, I will ask if no one has encountered these ones before.

TIA,


Antonio 



      



From johannbg at hi.is  Thu Oct 16 11:44:48 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:44:48 +0000
Subject: Denied avcs
In-Reply-To: <950377.8195.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <950377.8195.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48F72930.6000705@hi.is>

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow testers and selinux experts,
>
> I have encountered several avcs.  I want to ask you for advice before applying the suggested fixes.
>
>
> Summary:
>
> SELinux is preventing knotify4 from making the program stack executable.
>
> Detailed Description:
>
> The knotify4 application attempted to make its stack executable. This is a
> potential security problem. This should never ever be necessary. Stack memory is
> not executable on most OSes these days and this will not change. Executable
> stack memory is one of the biggest security problems. An execstack error might
> in fact be most likely raised by malicious code. Applications are sometimes
> coded incorrectly and request this permission. The SELinux Memory Protection
> Tests (http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html) web page explains how
> to remove this requirement. If knotify4 does not work and you need it to work,
> you can configure SELinux temporarily to allow this access until the application
> is fixed. Please file a bug report
> (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi) against this package.
>
> Allowing Access:
>
> Sometimes a library is accidentally marked with the execstack flag, if you find
> a library with this flag you can clear it with the execstack -c LIBRARY_PATH.
> Then retry your application. If the app continues to not work, you can turn the
> flag back on with execstack -s LIBRARY_PATH. Otherwise, if you trust knotify4 to
> run correctly, you can change the context of the executable to
> unconfined_execmem_exec_t. "chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t
> '/usr/bin/knotify4'" You must also change the default file context files on the
> system in order to preserve them even on a full relabel. "semanage fcontext -a
> -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'"
>
> Fix Command:
>
> chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'
>
> Additional Information:
>
> Source Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1
>                               023
> Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1
>                               023
> Target Objects                None [ process ]
> Source                        knotify4
> Source Path                   /usr/bin/knotify4
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          riohigh
> Source RPM Packages           kdebase-runtime-4.1.2-3.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   allow_execstack
> Host Name                     riohigh
> Platform                      Linux riohigh 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 10
>                               01:26:26 EDT 2008 i686 athlon
> Alert Count                   2
> First Seen                    Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:56 AM CDT
> Last Seen                     Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:56 AM CDT
> Local ID                      d2171be2-9d07-43e0-83bf-95f7f3e5e666
> Line Numbers                  
>
> Raw Audit Messages            
>
> node=riohigh type=AVC msg=audit(1224156836.173:93): avc:  denied  { execstack } for  pid=2874 comm="knotify4" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=process
>
> node=riohigh type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224156836.173:93): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bf9c9000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2874 auid=501 uid=501 gid=501 euid=501 suid=501 fsuid=501 egid=501 sgid=501 fsgid=501 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="knotify4" exe="/usr/bin/knotify4" subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
>
>
>
>
> Summary:
>
> SELinux is preventing hal-acl-tool (hald_acl_t) "sys_resource" hald_acl_t.
>
> Detailed Description:
>
> SELinux denied access requested by hal-acl-tool. It is not expected that this
> access is required by hal-acl-tool and this access may signal an intrusion
> attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the
> application is causing it to require additional access.
>
> Allowing Access:
>
> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
>
> Additional Information:
>
> Source Context                system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0
> Target Context                system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0
> Target Objects                None [ capability ]
> Source                        hal-acl-tool
> Source Path                   /usr/libexec/hal-acl-tool
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          riohigh
> Source RPM Packages           hal-0.5.12-3.20081013git.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   catchall
> Host Name                     riohigh
> Platform                      Linux riohigh 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 10
>                               01:26:26 EDT 2008 i686 athlon
> Alert Count                   73
> First Seen                    Sat 04 Oct 2008 11:10:27 AM CDT
> Last Seen                     Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:03 AM CDT
> Local ID                      16181f84-ddf2-4510-bd51-aef5ff647a63
> Line Numbers                  
>
> Raw Audit Messages            
>
> node=riohigh type=AVC msg=audit(1224156783.891:89): avc:  denied  { sys_resource } for  pid=2568 comm="hal-acl-tool" capability=24 scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0 tclass=capability
>
> node=riohigh type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224156783.891:89): arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=yes exit=2057 a0=5 a1=b7ff4000 a2=809 a3=809 items=0 ppid=1834 pid=2568 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="hal-acl-tool" exe="/usr/libexec/hal-acl-tool" subj=system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0 key=(null)
>
>
>
> Summary:
>
> SELinux is preventing console-kit-dae (consolekit_t) "sys_resource"
> consolekit_t.
>
> Detailed Description:
>
> SELinux denied access requested by console-kit-dae. It is not expected that this
> access is required by console-kit-dae and this access may signal an intrusion
> attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the
> application is causing it to require additional access.
>
> Allowing Access:
>
> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
>
> Additional Information:
>
> Source Context                system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> Target Context                system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> Target Objects                None [ capability ]
> Source                        console-kit-dae
> Source Path                   /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          riohigh
> Source RPM Packages           ConsoleKit-0.3.0-2.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   catchall
> Host Name                     riohigh
> Platform                      Linux riohigh 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 10
>                               01:26:26 EDT 2008 i686 athlon
> Alert Count                   87
> First Seen                    Fri 03 Oct 2008 06:14:33 PM CDT
> Last Seen                     Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:02 AM CDT
> Local ID                      0c8f36ea-d6b2-4646-ba59-1cdf5e6a0ee0
> Line Numbers                  
>
> Raw Audit Messages            
>
> node=riohigh type=AVC msg=audit(1224156782.948:86): avc:  denied  { sys_resource } for  pid=1770 comm="console-kit-dae" capability=24 scontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=capability
>
> node=riohigh type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224156782.948:86): arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=yes exit=674 a0=1a a1=8c4b790 a2=2a2 a3=8c4b790 items=0 ppid=1 pid=1770 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="console-kit-dae" exe="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon" subj=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
>
>
>
> I had not encountered these ones before.  And before applying the fixes, I will ask if no one has encountered these ones before.
>
> TIA,
>
>
> Antonio 
>
>
>
>       
>
>   
File a bug against selinux and attach the the avc denies to that report.

JBG
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From gronslet at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 12:24:24 2008
From: gronslet at gmail.com (MartinG)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:24:24 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bcb3ef430810160524y4c8e1768uaa500779949c682c@mail.gmail.com>

Might be related to this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466840

-MartinG



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 12:25:13 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:25:13 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810160525n57055bb8t9da2b0bd3e84fe94@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/16 Christopher Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>>
>> I'm having some really strange sound issues.  I use Rhythmbox to listen to mp3s and radio stations.  After a while, maybe 20-30 min, the music will just stop.  I'll try to play another song or another radio station and I'll hear a second or so of music, then a pause then a split second and nothing else.  During this time, the elapsed time for the song stays at 0:00.  I've figured out that if I type pulseaudio -k I get the following:
>>
>> [Chris at localhost ~]$ pulseaudio -k
>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>> N: main.c: Called SUID root and real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration. However, we lack the necessary priviliges:
>> N: main.c: We are not in group 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us priviliges. Dropping SUID again.
>> N: main.c: For enabling real-time scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit priviliges, or become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO resource limits for this user.
>> W: main.c: High-priority scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.
>>
>> I then start VLC, play an mp3 and I get all the distorted sound that people have been talking about but it plays.  I got this on the command line from VLC which looks pulseaudio related:
>>
>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>>
>> Finally, if I close VLC and open Rhythmbox, I can miraculously listen to the radio and mp3s!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
> I have exactly same issues....and tnx for the post that clarifies to
> me what happens.
> The problem is: what is the component to be filed against in
> bugzilla??? pulseaudio??
> Furthermore I find that some problem can arise from the fact that
> pulseaudio is in rawhide, while most of tools for multimedia (i.e. mp3
> codecs) are out of those boundaries....
> For your information latest kernel (.13) makes a better job about multimedia.
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

really funny situation: every time I install a kernel I have to check
whether it is doing fine.
For example I installed 17 from koij and it is no good, I am
experiencing that Rhythmbox is suffering from buffer empty (once again
sound too fast??) when playing a radio stream.
16 was doing fine and I will revert to it.


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Sometimes silence is more meaningful than sound....
Skype : antoniomontag



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 16 12:34:41 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
Message-ID: <672584.88371.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Dear all,

[<c046cc30>] ? ftrace_record_ip+0x1ac/0x1c5
[<c04059cb>] ? mcount_call+0x5/0xa
[<c046cc30>] ? 

[<e094e6c7>] ? ext4_get_sb+0x18/0x1a [ext4]
[<e09504df>] ? ext4_fill_super+0x0/0x1f1a [ext4]  

The last two here appear to tell me something.  I was bugzilling the denied avcs and the computer froze.  I tried CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and CTRL+ALT+DELETE and I could not do anything.  I turned off the computer manually and now all I see is this :(  

Can't save the message trying to boot to previous kernel to get output.  Will get back if I can.

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 12:39:31 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:39:31 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810160525n57055bb8t9da2b0bd3e84fe94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810160525n57055bb8t9da2b0bd3e84fe94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810160539i2a9ddc04vbe8a40554b6965c3@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/16 Christopher Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I'm having some really strange sound issues.  I use Rhythmbox to listen to mp3s and radio stations.  After a while, maybe 20-30 min, the music will just stop.  I'll try to play another song or another radio station and I'll hear a second or so of music, then a pause then a split second and nothing else.  During this time, the elapsed time for the song stays at 0:00.  I've figured out that if I type pulseaudio -k I get the following:
>>>
>>> [Chris at localhost ~]$ pulseaudio -k
>>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>>> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
>>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>>> N: main.c: Called SUID root and real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration. However, we lack the necessary priviliges:
>>> N: main.c: We are not in group 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us priviliges. Dropping SUID again.
>>> N: main.c: For enabling real-time scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit priviliges, or become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO resource limits for this user.
>>> W: main.c: High-priority scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy.
>>>
>>> I then start VLC, play an mp3 and I get all the distorted sound that people have been talking about but it plays.  I got this on the command line from VLC which looks pulseaudio related:
>>>
>>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>>> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
>>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>>>
>>> Finally, if I close VLC and open Rhythmbox, I can miraculously listen to the radio and mp3s!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> --
>>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> To unsubscribe:
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>
>>
>> I have exactly same issues....and tnx for the post that clarifies to
>> me what happens.
>> The problem is: what is the component to be filed against in
>> bugzilla??? pulseaudio??
>> Furthermore I find that some problem can arise from the fact that
>> pulseaudio is in rawhide, while most of tools for multimedia (i.e. mp3
>> codecs) are out of those boundaries....
>> For your information latest kernel (.13) makes a better job about multimedia.
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>
> really funny situation: every time I install a kernel I have to check
> whether it is doing fine.
> For example I installed 17 from koij and it is no good, I am
> experiencing that Rhythmbox is suffering from buffer empty (once again
> sound too fast??) when playing a radio stream.
> 16 was doing fine and I will revert to it.
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Sometimes silence is more meaningful than sound....
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
16 has to be read as 13....sorry for mistyping


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From dennisml at conversis.de  Thu Oct 16 12:45:51 2008
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:45:51 +0200
Subject: kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
In-Reply-To: <672584.88371.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <672584.88371.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48F7377F.6070103@conversis.de>

On 10/16/2008 02:34 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> [<c046cc30>] ? ftrace_record_ip+0x1ac/0x1c5
> [<c04059cb>] ? mcount_call+0x5/0xa
> [<c046cc30>] ?
>
> [<e094e6c7>] ? ext4_get_sb+0x18/0x1a [ext4]
> [<e09504df>] ? ext4_fill_super+0x0/0x1f1a [ext4]
>
> The last two here appear to tell me something.  I was bugzilling the denied avcs and the computer froze.  I tried CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and CTRL+ALT+DELETE and I could not do anything.  I turned off the computer manually and now all I see is this :(
>
> Can't save the message trying to boot to previous kernel to get output.  Will get back if I can.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio

This changelog entry from the latest kernel in koji might be related:

* Wed Oct 15 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27-16
- Disable FTRACE; DYNAMIC_FTRACE will be marked broken in 2.6.27.1
   (without dynamic ftrace the overhead is noticeable.)

Regards,
   Dennis



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 16 12:59:54 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:59:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
In-Reply-To: <48F7377F.6070103@conversis.de>
Message-ID: <407835.46726.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Dennis J. <dennisml at conversis.de> wrote:

> From: Dennis J. <dennisml at conversis.de>
> Subject: Re: kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 5:45 AM
> On 10/16/2008 02:34 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > [<c046cc30>] ? ftrace_record_ip+0x1ac/0x1c5
> > [<c04059cb>] ? mcount_call+0x5/0xa
> > [<c046cc30>] ?
> >
> > [<e094e6c7>] ? ext4_get_sb+0x18/0x1a [ext4]
> > [<e09504df>] ? ext4_fill_super+0x0/0x1f1a [ext4]
> >
> > The last two here appear to tell me something.  I was
> bugzilling the denied avcs and the computer froze.  I tried
> CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and CTRL+ALT+DELETE and I could not do
> anything.  I turned off the computer manually and now all I
> see is this :(
> >
> > Can't save the message trying to boot to previous
> kernel to get output.  Will get back if I can.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antonio
> 
> This changelog entry from the latest kernel in koji might
> be related:
> 
> * Wed Oct 15 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
> 2.6.27-16
> - Disable FTRACE; DYNAMIC_FTRACE will be marked broken in
> 2.6.27.1
>    (without dynamic ftrace the overhead is noticeable.)
> 
> Regards,
>    Dennis

Thanks Dennis for letting me know about this.  I still want to figure out if I can boot back.  I keep seeing the kernel panic on the 2.6.27 kernels.  How can I get an fsck at boot to try and fix this?

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 16 13:23:32 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher D. Stover)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:23:32 -0500
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl><4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>
	<bcb3ef430810160524y4c8e1768uaa500779949c682c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl><4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>
	<bcb3ef430810160524y4c8e1768uaa500779949c682c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DS534311D29B2B15B5ACC6DD9330@phx.gbl>

MartinG -- Yes, I had stumbled across this bug report a few days ago. 
However, I don't think my issue is related to this.  I haven't experienced 
any considerable amount of popping or "cracking."  I have pidgin running 
like the person in the Bugzilla report and the sound with it is fine.  My 
problem is that music just stops after a while.

Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If you do what I said and 
type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does that fix the problem and 
you're able to listen to things again?  I'm honestly not sure where to file 
the problem either, but I feel it's probably a pulseaudio problem.  I'm not 
really sure what you meant by "...problem can arise from the fact that 
pulseaudio is in rawhide..."

Chris

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From: "MartinG" <gronslet at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:24 AM
To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" 
<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Sound issues

> Might be related to this bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466840
>
> -MartinG
>
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From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct 16 13:24:38 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:24:38 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing Questions
In-Reply-To: <1224105872.13861.98.camel@ignacio.lan>
References: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com>
	<1224105872.13861.98.camel@ignacio.lan>
Message-ID: <48F74096.9030007@redhat.com>

Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> 2) Are any of the followng worthy of bugs:
>>
>> - font pixels per inch defaults to 201 for new installs
> 
> This is (almost) accurate, although meaningless due to the nature of the
> XO's display.

Is this set dynamically, or is it coded for all gnome installs?

-- bk




From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct 16 13:28:29 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:28:29 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing Questions
In-Reply-To: <1224106033.13861.102.camel@ignacio.lan>
References: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com> <1224097268.3737.18.camel@flatline>
	<1224106033.13861.102.camel@ignacio.lan>
Message-ID: <48F7417D.1030700@redhat.com>

Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 15:01 -0400, James Laska wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>>> - I have to select subpixel smoothing for new installs.
>> Should sub-pixel smoothing be the default for GNOME?  Or is this
>> specific to the XO?
> 
> It really is only applicable for LCD and similar displays (it tends to
> be pointless on CRTs). Additionally, the underlying mechanism may need
> to be modified for optimal results on the XO's display.

Is there a way to set this dynamically based on the display type?

-- bk



From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Thu Oct 16 13:34:33 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:34:33 -0400
Subject: kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
In-Reply-To: <407835.46726.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <407835.46726.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1224164073.7899.91.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 05:59 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> --- On Thu, 10/16/08, Dennis J. <dennisml at conversis.de> wrote:
> 
> > From: Dennis J. <dennisml at conversis.de>
> > Subject: Re: kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
> > To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> > Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 5:45 AM
> > On 10/16/2008 02:34 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > [<c046cc30>] ? ftrace_record_ip+0x1ac/0x1c5
> > > [<c04059cb>] ? mcount_call+0x5/0xa
> > > [<c046cc30>] ?
> > >
> > > [<e094e6c7>] ? ext4_get_sb+0x18/0x1a [ext4]
> > > [<e09504df>] ? ext4_fill_super+0x0/0x1f1a [ext4]
> > >
> > > The last two here appear to tell me something.  I was
> > bugzilling the denied avcs and the computer froze.  I tried
> > CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and CTRL+ALT+DELETE and I could not do
> > anything.  I turned off the computer manually and now all I
> > see is this :(
> > >
> > > Can't save the message trying to boot to previous
> > kernel to get output.  Will get back if I can.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Antonio
> > 
> > This changelog entry from the latest kernel in koji might
> > be related:
> > 
> > * Wed Oct 15 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com>
> > 2.6.27-16
> > - Disable FTRACE; DYNAMIC_FTRACE will be marked broken in
> > 2.6.27.1
> >    (without dynamic ftrace the overhead is noticeable.)
> > 
> > Regards,
> >    Dennis

> Thanks Dennis for letting me know about this.  I still want to figure
> out if I can boot back.  I keep seeing the kernel panic on the 2.6.27
> kernels.  How can I get an fsck at boot to try and fix this?

	You're probably going to need to boot from a recovery disk and manually
run fsck.  ITMT, the Dynamic FTRACE is seriously broken.  Discussion on
LKML indicates it may have been at the heart of the e1000 firmware
corruption issue.  The 2.6.27.1 release yesterday was, more or less, an
emergency release to prohibit the FTRACE option from being enabled until
proper fixes are implemented.  You're going to need to update your
kernel ASAP.

> Regards,

> Antonio 

	Mike

> 
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From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 13:52:39 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:52:39 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing Questions
In-Reply-To: <48F74096.9030007@redhat.com>
References: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com>
	<1224105872.13861.98.camel@ignacio.lan> <48F74096.9030007@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224165159.13861.129.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 09:24 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> >> 2) Are any of the followng worthy of bugs:
> >>
> >> - font pixels per inch defaults to 201 for new installs
> > 
> > This is (almost) accurate, although meaningless due to the nature of the
> > XO's display.
> 
> Is this set dynamically, or is it coded for all gnome installs?

Xorg detects this based on the EDID from the display.

-- 
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 14:00:11 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:00:11 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-DS534311D29B2B15B5ACC6DD9330@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>
	<bcb3ef430810160524y4c8e1768uaa500779949c682c@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY124-DS534311D29B2B15B5ACC6DD9330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810160700q733457d7sd5975b9f1ce39757@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/16 Christopher D. Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:

>
> Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If you do what I said and
> type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does that fix the problem and
> you're able to listen to things again?  I'm honestly not sure where to file
> the problem either, but I feel it's probably a pulseaudio problem.  I'm not
> really sure what you meant by "...problem can arise from the fact that
> pulseaudio is in rawhide..."
>
> Chris
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>

as results are very different from kernel, I think that kernel is the
problem: after some trials I Have reverted to 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
Rhytmbox has played for an hour then crashed...VLC refuses to play
same stream.
Just to clarify my meaning, I am not satisfied with  multimedia (and
things have not improved) in rawhide, sometimes I think the problem is
that you have pulseaudio, Rhythmbox from rawhide, codecs from other
parts, and there is no clear technical responsibility of which package
is involved, at least for me that I am a very low-level tester: from
the tester's point of view, it is difficult to file a bug (against
what??)....also problem is well known.
And when you show a Fedora system to a friend of yours, multimedia is
important to check the quality of any OS (in many case more than
network management and so on...)
-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From caf at omen.com  Thu Oct 16 15:00:04 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:00:04 -0700
Subject: Intel DG45ID
Message-ID: <48F756F4.2020705@omen.com>

The DG45ID has no IDE connector and no PS2 connectors.
I didn't notice that when I bought the DG45ID to replace a
DG33BU that had a failed audio jack.  I had to get a SATA
DVD burner to use this board conveniently.  Just as well,
the IDE DVD burner was having increasing trouble opening
its door and is now kaput.

The DG33BU also also had assignable jacks, but they defaulted
to useful settings so there was no problem with Linux.  The
default on the DG45ID is that the blue "line out" jack is an
output until Windows software reconfigures it.

The DG45ID took forever to boot.  Well, it seems like forever.
The DG45ID has only one PCI slot, which isn't enough when
it is necessary to add both an ethernet and sound card to
get some flavors of Linux working.

On the other hand, the DG45ID can sample audio at 192 kHz.
This is good news for bats and SDR/ham radio experimentors
if some future version of ALSA can hack the jacks.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From ajax at redhat.com  Thu Oct 16 15:04:21 2008
From: ajax at redhat.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:04:21 -0400
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
Message-ID: <1224169461.7707.164.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 19:52 +0000, Martin Sourada wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:37 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > That's the text plugin, yes.  It's not going to progress "smoothly",
> > it's ascii art.  We were hoping KMS support would land for Intel chips
> > for F10 but it looks like that's not going to happen.
> > 
> On a similar note, I noticed the progress bar finishes long before the
> boot process (I think somewhere around the time services start to
> start). This isn't an expected behaviour from user point of view.
> Actually it is pretty weird... I've installed readahead (not sure though
> if it is enabled, or how to enable it if not) and disabled some unneeded
> services which resulted in the progress bar showing up incomplete for
> about only a third of the boot process (and completing really fast).
> When I look at the real progress after the progress bar is already
> finished, I see services starting.

Since it is, in general, impossible to know how long service startup
will take, we lie.  We record the time it took to boot last time and run
the progress bar against that.  There's a detail here which is that you
can't know that until you've mounted /, so we estimate something really
long initially and then once we load the time off the disk we lerp
between the estimate and the recorded time.

We also cheat in that the growth of the progress bar is intentionally
nonlinear, growing faster early and then slowing down towards the end.
This fools your brain into thinking it's going faster than it really is.
Usually the math works out such that you'll see the bar fully complete
for a second or two before switching to gdm or text console.  But,
sometimes much longer, if this boot happens to take ten seconds longer
than last one then there's just not much we can do about that.

- ajax
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From ajchida at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 15:15:55 2008
From: ajchida at gmail.com (Chida)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:45:55 +0530
Subject: Intel DG45ID
In-Reply-To: <48F756F4.2020705@omen.com>
References: <48F756F4.2020705@omen.com>
Message-ID: <71b7a9890810160815m66969f75ycd4a79306cfd0162@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
<caf at omen.com>wrote:

> The DG45ID has no IDE connector and no PS2 connectors.
> I didn't notice that when I bought the DG45ID to replace a
> DG33BU that had a failed audio jack.  I had to get a SATA
> DVD burner to use this board conveniently.  Just as well,
> the IDE DVD burner was having increasing trouble opening
> its door and is now kaput.
>
> The DG33BU also also had assignable jacks, but they defaulted
> to useful settings so there was no problem with Linux.  The
> default on the DG45ID is that the blue "line out" jack is an
> output until Windows software reconfigures it.
>
> The DG45ID took forever to boot.  Well, it seems like forever.
> The DG45ID has only one PCI slot, which isn't enough when
> it is necessary to add both an ethernet and sound card to
> get some flavors of Linux working.
>
> On the other hand, the DG45ID can sample audio at 192 kHz.
> This is good news for bats and SDR/ham radio experimentors
> if some future version of ALSA can hack the jacks.
>

Ah, thanks! I thought there were some problems with hardware and fedora 10!

This board is perfect. It's about time RS232/LPT/PS2/IDE  and VGA died!

I'm sorry it didn't work for you though.

Steve
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From caf at omen.com  Thu Oct 16 15:18:00 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:18:00 -0700
Subject: MSI P43neo3 Motherboard
Message-ID: <48F75B28.2040708@omen.com>

I exchanged the DG45ID with an MSI P43neo3 motherboard.
It has two PS2 and one IDE connector so I could use what I
wanted.  It also has FOUR PCI connectors, so I can experiment
with multiple sound cards and TV capture.  No point in throwing
out my collection of PCI cards just yet.

8 SATA ports is not an incredible number as I have a collection of
older (smaller) SATA drives in the box and now a SATA DVD.

Be advised that updating the BIOS may be a problem without
Windows and/or a floppy disk.  (I forgot to mention that the
Intel DG45ID has no floppy connector either!).

The MSI board get along with FC10 just fine.  Some older
versions may have problems with SATA drives on the
ICH10, especially with the older BIOS that came with the board.
I had to use a USB ROM drive to install Ubuntu 8.04.

The gigabit ethernet on the MSI motherboard has some issues.
Once or twice it wouldn't work with Windows XP until I
rebooted.  Ubuntu 8.04 DHCP wouldn't work in install,
but it did work with manual IP settings.

Right now I am about to open up the box to see which fan
isn't hushed, so I'll send this off first in case I break something.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From caf at omen.com  Thu Oct 16 15:32:39 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:32:39 -0700
Subject: DG45ID
Message-ID: <48F75E97.5080102@omen.com>

I should have written "The blue line INPUT jack defaults to
output on the DG45ID".  Not too useful on Linux.   As far
as I can tell Pulse or ALSA have no concept of audio jack
reassignment because heretofore it wasn't needed.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From bruno at wolff.to  Thu Oct 16 13:50:58 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:50:58 -0500
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
In-Reply-To: <1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield>
References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield>
Message-ID: <20081016135058.GA28230@wolff.to>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:40:15 -0700,
  Jim Hayward <jimhayward at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I can add a "me too" for this problem. F9 was rock solid stable. A clean
> install of F10beta will lock up randomly. Sometimes within minutes of
> logging in. Using Firefox seems to make the lockups occur more
> frequent. 

You might try booting with nomodeset. I have a r530 based card and while things
are getting better I can still coerce an X lockup or kernel crash (it's hard
to tell which is happening from the console sometimes). Things are stable
there (but at home with an r280 card nomodeset breaks things) when I use
nomodeset.
I have a ticket open for my lockups that I have been updating as I reproduce
the problem with later versions of things that are X related (kernel,
xorg ati driver, xorg server, mesa).



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 13:51:00 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:51:00 -0400
Subject: XO: Testing Questions
In-Reply-To: <48F7417D.1030700@redhat.com>
References: <48F63306.8030904@redhat.com> <1224097268.3737.18.camel@flatline>
	<1224106033.13861.102.camel@ignacio.lan> <48F7417D.1030700@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224165060.13861.126.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 09:28 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 15:01 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:14 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> >>> - I have to select subpixel smoothing for new installs.
> >> Should sub-pixel smoothing be the default for GNOME?  Or is this
> >> specific to the XO?
> > 
> > It really is only applicable for LCD and similar displays (it tends to
> > be pointless on CRTs). Additionally, the underlying mechanism may need
> > to be modified for optimal results on the XO's display.
> 
> Is there a way to set this dynamically based on the display type?

First you need to find a reliable way to detect the display type. Talk
to the X.org developers.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

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From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct 16 17:52:45 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:52:45 -0400
Subject: XO: REMINDER - Roll call for test teams
Message-ID: <1224179565.3240.13.camel@flatline>

Greetings folks,

Just a friendly reminder, there are 2 days remaining to sign-up for a
specific XO test area.  

The roll call request was sent by Steve Salevan and can be found at
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-October/msg00774.html.

Please take a moment to review the posted test areas.  We are looking
for team members and team leads to engage in targeted testing starting
next week.  If a particular area strikes your fancy, please don't
hesitate to sign up.

For those folks still waiting for your XO delivery, thank you for your
patience!

Thanks,
James
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From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 16 19:31:16 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:31:16 -0400
Subject: Howto start Bluetooth Mouse
Message-ID: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>

FC10, Latest Updates
How do you get the Bluetooth Mouse working on FC10 ??



From farrellj at gmail.com  Thu Oct 16 19:57:53 2008
From: farrellj at gmail.com (Jason Farrell)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:57:53 -0400
Subject: Bluetooth headset progress with F10
In-Reply-To: <2411f6b20810160031r39892d7fn75fd4907ef695edc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2411f6b20810160031r39892d7fn75fd4907ef695edc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3c915110810161257t15fd4672hcc2a963962e9d202@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Joey Krane <linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I inserted my Belkin USB bluetooth adapter
> <snip>
> [root at localhost jk]# hcitool scan
> Scanning ...
>     00:1D:82:3C:62:E2    Jabra BT125
> [root at localhost jk]# hcitool cc 00:1D:82:3C:62:E2
> [root at localhost jk]#
> </snip>
>

FWIW, my new Jabra BT3030 headset doesn't work with Fedora (or even WinXP's
default bluetooth stack) out of the box either. From what I was able to
glean from google, the problem appears to be related to it getting confused
about which profile to use (a2dp or headset), so you have to specify it
(somewhere) in order to connect & pair. Not sure how that's done.

--
Jason "zcat" Farrell
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From wwoods at redhat.com  Thu Oct 16 21:34:56 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:34:56 -0400
Subject: Howto start Bluetooth Mouse
In-Reply-To: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1224192896.3183.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
> FC10, Latest Updates
> How do you get the Bluetooth Mouse working on FC10 ??

On my system, it goes something like this:

0) Make mouse discoverable*
1) Click Bluetooth icon
2) Click "Setup new device..." to start the BT Device Wizard
3) Click "Forward"
4) Choose the mouse from the list and click "Forward"
5) A pairing request will be received; click "Enter PIN"
6) Enter the PIN for your device*

And that's it. Use your newly-connected mouse to click "Close" on the
Bluetooth wizard. 

What happens when you try?

-w

*These things depend on what kind of mouse it is - for my Apple mouse
you just open the lens cover and it starts blinking, and the pin is
0000.



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 16 21:41:42 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:41:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
In-Reply-To: <1224164073.7899.91.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
Message-ID: <112065.61108.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at WittsEnd.com> wrote:

> From: Michael H. Warfield <mhw at WittsEnd.com>
> Subject: Re: kernel panic - not syncing:  Attempted to kill init!
> To: olivares14031 at yahoo.com, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>
> 	You're probably going to need to boot from a recovery
> disk and manually
> run fsck.  ITMT, the Dynamic FTRACE is seriously broken. 
> Discussion on
> LKML indicates it may have been at the heart of the e1000
> firmware
> corruption issue.  The 2.6.27.1 release yesterday was, more
> or less, an
> emergency release to prohibit the FTRACE option from being
> enabled until
> proper fixes are implemented.  You're going to need to
> update your
> kernel ASAP.
> 
> > Regards,
> 
> > Antonio 
> 
> 	Mike
> 
> > 
> >       
> > 
> > -- 
> -- 


Does the following kernel have the fix 

[olivares at localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.27-13.fc10.i686

Or is it the 2.6.27-16.fc10.i686 from Koji?

Thanks,

Antonio 


      



From dwalsh at redhat.com  Thu Oct 16 21:47:46 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:47:46 -0400
Subject: Denied avcs
In-Reply-To: <950377.8195.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <950377.8195.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48F7B682.9060405@redhat.com>

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow testers and selinux experts,
> 
> I have encountered several avcs.  I want to ask you for advice before applying the suggested fixes.
> 
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing knotify4 from making the program stack executable.
> 
> Detailed Description:
> 
> The knotify4 application attempted to make its stack executable. This is a
> potential security problem. This should never ever be necessary. Stack memory is
> not executable on most OSes these days and this will not change. Executable
> stack memory is one of the biggest security problems. An execstack error might
> in fact be most likely raised by malicious code. Applications are sometimes
> coded incorrectly and request this permission. The SELinux Memory Protection
> Tests (http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html) web page explains how
> to remove this requirement. If knotify4 does not work and you need it to work,
> you can configure SELinux temporarily to allow this access until the application
> is fixed. Please file a bug report
> (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi) against this package.
> 
> Allowing Access:
> 
> Sometimes a library is accidentally marked with the execstack flag, if you find
> a library with this flag you can clear it with the execstack -c LIBRARY_PATH.
> Then retry your application. If the app continues to not work, you can turn the
> flag back on with execstack -s LIBRARY_PATH. Otherwise, if you trust knotify4 to
> run correctly, you can change the context of the executable to
> unconfined_execmem_exec_t. "chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t
> '/usr/bin/knotify4'" You must also change the default file context files on the
> system in order to preserve them even on a full relabel. "semanage fcontext -a
> -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'"
> 
> Fix Command:
> 
> chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> Source Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1
>                               023
> Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1
>                               023
> Target Objects                None [ process ]
> Source                        knotify4
> Source Path                   /usr/bin/knotify4
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          riohigh
> Source RPM Packages           kdebase-runtime-4.1.2-3.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   allow_execstack
> Host Name                     riohigh
> Platform                      Linux riohigh 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 10
>                               01:26:26 EDT 2008 i686 athlon
> Alert Count                   2
> First Seen                    Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:56 AM CDT
> Last Seen                     Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:56 AM CDT
> Local ID                      d2171be2-9d07-43e0-83bf-95f7f3e5e666
> Line Numbers                  
> 
> Raw Audit Messages            
> 
> node=riohigh type=AVC msg=audit(1224156836.173:93): avc:  denied  { execstack } for  pid=2874 comm="knotify4" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=process
> 
> node=riohigh type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224156836.173:93): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bf9c9000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2874 auid=501 uid=501 gid=501 euid=501 suid=501 fsuid=501 egid=501 sgid=501 fsgid=501 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="knotify4" exe="/usr/bin/knotify4" subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing hal-acl-tool (hald_acl_t) "sys_resource" hald_acl_t.
> 
> Detailed Description:
> 
> SELinux denied access requested by hal-acl-tool. It is not expected that this
> access is required by hal-acl-tool and this access may signal an intrusion
> attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the
> application is causing it to require additional access.
> 
> Allowing Access:
> 
> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> Source Context                system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0
> Target Context                system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0
> Target Objects                None [ capability ]
> Source                        hal-acl-tool
> Source Path                   /usr/libexec/hal-acl-tool
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          riohigh
> Source RPM Packages           hal-0.5.12-3.20081013git.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   catchall
> Host Name                     riohigh
> Platform                      Linux riohigh 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 10
>                               01:26:26 EDT 2008 i686 athlon
> Alert Count                   73
> First Seen                    Sat 04 Oct 2008 11:10:27 AM CDT
> Last Seen                     Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:03 AM CDT
> Local ID                      16181f84-ddf2-4510-bd51-aef5ff647a63
> Line Numbers                  
> 
> Raw Audit Messages            
> 
> node=riohigh type=AVC msg=audit(1224156783.891:89): avc:  denied  { sys_resource } for  pid=2568 comm="hal-acl-tool" capability=24 scontext=system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0 tclass=capability
> 
> node=riohigh type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224156783.891:89): arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=yes exit=2057 a0=5 a1=b7ff4000 a2=809 a3=809 items=0 ppid=1834 pid=2568 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="hal-acl-tool" exe="/usr/libexec/hal-acl-tool" subj=system_u:system_r:hald_acl_t:s0 key=(null)
> 
> 
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing console-kit-dae (consolekit_t) "sys_resource"
> consolekit_t.
> 
> Detailed Description:
> 
> SELinux denied access requested by console-kit-dae. It is not expected that this
> access is required by console-kit-dae and this access may signal an intrusion
> attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the
> application is causing it to require additional access.
> 
> Allowing Access:
> 
> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> Source Context                system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> Target Context                system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> Target Objects                None [ capability ]
> Source                        console-kit-dae
> Source Path                   /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          riohigh
> Source RPM Packages           ConsoleKit-0.3.0-2.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.10-3.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   catchall
> Host Name                     riohigh
> Platform                      Linux riohigh 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 10
>                               01:26:26 EDT 2008 i686 athlon
> Alert Count                   87
> First Seen                    Fri 03 Oct 2008 06:14:33 PM CDT
> Last Seen                     Thu 16 Oct 2008 06:33:02 AM CDT
> Local ID                      0c8f36ea-d6b2-4646-ba59-1cdf5e6a0ee0
> Line Numbers                  
> 
> Raw Audit Messages            
> 
> node=riohigh type=AVC msg=audit(1224156782.948:86): avc:  denied  { sys_resource } for  pid=1770 comm="console-kit-dae" capability=24 scontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=capability
> 
> node=riohigh type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224156782.948:86): arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=yes exit=674 a0=1a a1=8c4b790 a2=2a2 a3=8c4b790 items=0 ppid=1 pid=1770 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="console-kit-dae" exe="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon" subj=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
> 
> 
> 
> I had not encountered these ones before.  And before applying the fixes, I will ask if no one has encountered these ones before.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> 
> Antonio 
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> --
> fedora-selinux-list mailing list
> fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list
The sys_resource ones seem to be a bug in the kernel, since every
confined domain seems to be getting a denial.

The exstack one is probably caused by a badly built executable or a bad
library.  You can execute the chcon command to allow it to run or turn
off the check.




From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 16 22:34:36 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:34:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: what is vmalloc?
Message-ID: <846740.93727.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear all,

I am just recovering from the kernel panic, I saw when the system was booting, I saw something like ext4 malloc or something like that.  

I run 

[olivares at riohigh ~]$ dmesg | grep 'malloc'
    vmalloc : 0xe0800000 - 0xff3fe000   ( 491 MB)


What is vmalloc?

Is it virtual memory allocation?

Thanks,

Antonio

[olivares at riohigh ~]$ uname -r
2.6.27-13.fc10.i686
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda5
/dev/sda5: TYPE="ext4" 




      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 16 22:42:49 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: what is vmalloc?
In-Reply-To: <846740.93727.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <905416.10544.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: what is vmalloc?
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 3:34 PM
> Dear all,
> 
> I am just recovering from the kernel panic, I saw when the
> system was booting, I saw something like ext4 malloc or
> something like that.  
> 
> I run 
> 
> [olivares at riohigh ~]$ dmesg | grep 'malloc'
>     vmalloc : 0xe0800000 - 0xff3fe000   ( 491 MB)
> 
> 
> What is vmalloc?
> 
> Is it virtual memory allocation?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Antonio
> 
> [olivares at riohigh ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27-13.fc10.i686
> [root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda5
> /dev/sda5: TYPE="ext4" 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> -- 


Sorry to all users for taking your time, I have found the answer sorry to ask without looking before :(

http://www.research.att.com/~gsf/download/ref/vmalloc/vmalloc.html

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From caf at omen.com  Thu Oct 16 23:40:40 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:40:40 -0700
Subject: Problems with Today's Rawhide
Message-ID: <48F7D0F8.6070407@omen.com>

I upgraded a working Rawhide partition and also did a fresh
install on another partition, both on the MSI p43ne03 and
Core Duo.

1.  No echo on console tty login (both partitions)

2.  Xlinrad now segfaults when attempting to access the sound system.
Recompiling it didn't help.

3.  Add/remove software can't find its repository.

4.  Firstrun after install script crashes attempting to add user.

5.  http://lwn.net gets my local web site instead of lwn.net.
Windows Firefox on the same machine works normally.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From rich.sharples at redhat.com  Fri Oct 17 02:57:53 2008
From: rich.sharples at redhat.com (Rich Sharples)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:57:53 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00810151859q521a57bo33a4b08a320ebd66@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com>
	<48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>	<1224076307.10125.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<10e0a9b00810151859q521a57bo33a4b08a320ebd66@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F7FF31.7030503@redhat.com>

Agreed - you have to have swap - otherwise your machine will just hang 
when you try and run even the most trivial app.

Anyone know how to make the swap persistent ?

As well as disabling some applications 
(System|Preferences|Personal|Session) and Services - I've disabled 
SE-Linux - that frees up about 32Mb.

- Rich
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Michael Solberg <msolberg at redhat.com> wrote:
>   
>> Also - swap is essential -
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance#Swap_space.3F
>>
>> has instructions for turning on swap once your XO has booted.
>>     
>
> I turned added a swap file using the directions above and this has
> made a large difference for me.  Last night I was experiencing freezes
> after a short period of time, preceded by things getting quite slow.
> Tonight, after enabling swap I have been able to navigate around
> pretty well and even run FireFox for a bit - though the swap usage was
> creeping up while using FireFox.
>
> Definitely much more usable with the swap file.
>
> I did do a small bit of tuning with the Gnome session, turning off the
> following items:
>
> Bluetooth Manager
> GNOME Splash Screen
> Network Authentication
> PackageKit Update Applet
> Print Queue Applet
> SELinux Troubleshooter
> User Sharing
>
> ~Jeffrey
>
>   


-- 
Rich Sharples
JBoss, a division of Red Hat Inc.

m : +1 919 265 9099
o : +1 919 754 4174

http://blog.softwhere.org



From katzj at redhat.com  Fri Oct 17 02:59:19 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:59:19 -0400
Subject: XO: Success with 4 Gig Card
In-Reply-To: <48F7FF31.7030503@redhat.com>
References: <48F54C21.6090302@redhat.com> <48F5EA38.8050804@redhat.com>
	<1224076307.10125.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<10e0a9b00810151859q521a57bo33a4b08a320ebd66@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F7FF31.7030503@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224212359.370.59.camel@aglarond.local>

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 22:57 -0400, Rich Sharples wrote:
> Agreed - you have to have swap - otherwise your machine will just hang 
> when you try and run even the most trivial app.
> 
> Anyone know how to make the swap persistent ?

Snap2 will hopefully have the fix to auto-activate a swap file in
LiveOS/swap.img

Jeremy



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 17 03:08:11 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:08:11 -0400
Subject: Howto start Bluetooth Mouse
In-Reply-To: <1224192896.3183.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>
	<1224192896.3183.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>

Will Woods wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
>   
>> FC10, Latest Updates
>> How do you get the Bluetooth Mouse working on FC10 ??
>>     
>
> On my system, it goes something like this:
>
> 0) Make mouse discoverable*
> 1) Click Bluetooth icon
> 2) Click "Setup new device..." to start the BT Device Wizard
> 3) Click "Forward"
> 4) Choose the mouse from the list and click "Forward"
> 5) A pairing request will be received; click "Enter PIN"
> 6) Enter the PIN for your device*
>
> And that's it. Use your newly-connected mouse to click "Close" on the
> Bluetooth wizard. 
>
> What happens when you try?
>
> -w
>
> *These things depend on what kind of mouse it is - for my Apple mouse
> you just open the lens cover and it starts blinking, and the pin is
> 0000.
>
>   
Well my problem is I can't find the Bluetooth Icon.
Kbluetooth4 won't execute.
My bluetooth Mouse is a Logitech.
I had the mouse working on FC9 but I can't get to work on FC10.



From linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 05:33:43 2008
From: linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com (Joey Krane)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:03:43 +0530
Subject: Bluetooth headset progress with F10
In-Reply-To: <b3c915110810161257t15fd4672hcc2a963962e9d202@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2411f6b20810160031r39892d7fn75fd4907ef695edc@mail.gmail.com>
	<b3c915110810161257t15fd4672hcc2a963962e9d202@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2411f6b20810162233le07968fjd815669805033583@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Jason Farrell <farrellj at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Joey Krane <linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I inserted my Belkin USB bluetooth adapter
>> <snip>
>> [root at localhost jk]# hcitool scan
>> Scanning ...
>>     00:1D:82:3C:62:E2    Jabra BT125
>> [root at localhost jk]# hcitool cc 00:1D:82:3C:62:E2
>> [root at localhost jk]#
>> </snip>
>>
>
> FWIW, my new Jabra BT3030 headset doesn't work with Fedora (or even WinXP's
> default bluetooth stack) out of the box either. From what I was able to
> glean from google, the problem appears to be related to it getting confused
> about which profile to use (a2dp or headset), so you have to specify it
> (somewhere) in order to connect & pair. Not sure how that's done.
>


I think that could have been a problem with older releses.  The new 2.6.27
kernel, 4.xx bluetooth stack and PulseAudio is *supposed*  to make it all
just work.

I also see a SCO driver added to the 2.6.27 kernel.  I been successful in
getting the headset paired with F10 beta as detailed in my previous post.

What I'm not successful is in making this device work with any application..
For example, after pairing I opened Ekiga and I didn't find this device in
the audio setup but just the ALSA devices.

So I think there is a disconnect on how the applications should use these
dynamic audio devices vs fixed devices and all these applications aren't
capable of handlig dynamic audio devices just yet?.

Steve
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From linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 05:36:37 2008
From: linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com (Joey Krane)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:06:37 +0530
Subject: Howto start Bluetooth Mouse
In-Reply-To: <48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>
	<1224192896.3183.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <2411f6b20810162236s5fa82eaap350a153b45c0735c@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Will Woods wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
>>
>>
>>> FC10, Latest Updates
>>> How do you get the Bluetooth Mouse working on FC10 ??
>>>
>>>
>>
>> On my system, it goes something like this:
>>
>> 0) Make mouse discoverable*
>> 1) Click Bluetooth icon
>> 2) Click "Setup new device..." to start the BT Device Wizard
>> 3) Click "Forward"
>> 4) Choose the mouse from the list and click "Forward"
>> 5) A pairing request will be received; click "Enter PIN"
>> 6) Enter the PIN for your device*
>>
>> And that's it. Use your newly-connected mouse to click "Close" on the
>> Bluetooth wizard.
>> What happens when you try?
>>
>> -w
>>
>> *These things depend on what kind of mouse it is - for my Apple mouse
>> you just open the lens cover and it starts blinking, and the pin is
>> 0000.
>>
>>
>>
> Well my problem is I can't find the Bluetooth Icon.
> Kbluetooth4 won't execute.
> My bluetooth Mouse is a Logitech.
> I had the mouse working on FC9 but I can't get to work on FC10.



Check if your bluetooth service is running.

# /etc/rc.d/init.d/bluetooth start

This should put the bluetooth icon on the task bar if you have a bluetooth
adapter.

Also, check /var/log/messages to ensure your bluetooth device is recognised.

Then follow instructions provided by Will.

Steve




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From linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 05:38:59 2008
From: linuxbsd2004 at gmail.com (Joey Krane)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:08:59 +0530
Subject: Problems with Today's Rawhide
In-Reply-To: <48F7D0F8.6070407@omen.com>
References: <48F7D0F8.6070407@omen.com>
Message-ID: <2411f6b20810162238w552fb64p558c320c1082cc2c@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
<caf at omen.com>wrote:

> I upgraded a working Rawhide partition and also did a fresh
> install on another partition, both on the MSI p43ne03 and
> Core Duo.
>
> 1.  No echo on console tty login (both partitions)
>
> 2.  Xlinrad now segfaults when attempting to access the sound system.
> Recompiling it didn't help.
>
> 3.  Add/remove software can't find its repository.
>
> 4.  Firstrun after install script crashes attempting to add user.
>
> 5.  http://lwn.net gets my local web site instead of lwn.net.
> Windows Firefox on the same machine works normally.
>


My F10beta box is up-to-date with rawhide as of 17 Oct and no problems here.

This is Biostar TA 780G M2+ M/B with AMD CPU.

Steve
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From gilboad at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 07:29:13 2008
From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:29:13 +0200
Subject: Howto start Bluetooth Mouse
In-Reply-To: <48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>
	<1224192896.3183.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1224228553.20887.0.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 23:08 -0400, Jim wrote:
> Will Woods wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >   
> >> FC10, Latest Updates
> >> How do you get the Bluetooth Mouse working on FC10 ??
> >>     
> >
> > On my system, it goes something like this:
> >
> > 0) Make mouse discoverable*
> > 1) Click Bluetooth icon
> > 2) Click "Setup new device..." to start the BT Device Wizard
> > 3) Click "Forward"
> > 4) Choose the mouse from the list and click "Forward"
> > 5) A pairing request will be received; click "Enter PIN"
> > 6) Enter the PIN for your device*
> >
> > And that's it. Use your newly-connected mouse to click "Close" on the
> > Bluetooth wizard. 
> >
> > What happens when you try?
> >
> > -w
> >
> > *These things depend on what kind of mouse it is - for my Apple mouse
> > you just open the lens cover and it starts blinking, and the pin is
> > 0000.
> >
> >   
> Well my problem is I can't find the Bluetooth Icon.
> Kbluetooth4 won't execute.
> My bluetooth Mouse is a Logitech.
> I had the mouse working on FC9 but I can't get to work on FC10.
> 

Can you try starting kdebluetooth from a console and posting the output?
What kind of bluetooth controller are you using?

- Gilboa



From skunkworx at verizon.net  Fri Oct 17 07:42:02 2008
From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:42:02 -0700
Subject: f9 gnome auto login questions
Message-ID: <48F841CA.7020801@verizon.net>

This is a post I made yesterday to the fedora-list. There have been no 
replies yet. I'm hoping someone here can give me a clue on how to 
disable gnome "User Switching" or offer opinions on the following. The 
behavior is a little unsettling.

TIA,
John

----

Here's my example usage :

1) Setup auto login :

edit :

/etc/gdm/custom.conf

...

[daemon]
AutomaticLoginEnable=true
AutomaticLogin=my_uname

2) Restart to runlevel 5, experience autologin as "my_uname".

3) Activate System->Lockscreen menu option.
(screen saver starts)

Note : at this point, I expect my screen to be password protected.

4) Wiggle mouse for authentication dialog. Don't enter password; click 
the "Switch User" button.

Try # 1 : Get directly to desktop, no password needed.

5) Repeat steps 3,4.

Try # 2 : Get login greeter on try #2. Select "Automatic Login" user, 
get directly to desktop, no password needed.

6) Attempt to disable the "Switch User" button :

# gconf-editor
apps->gnome-screensaver->user_switch_enabled=false
desktop->gnome->disable_user_switching=true

Note : at this point, I expect user switching to be disabled.

7) Restart to runlevel 5. Same behavior; user switching is still enabled 
and exhibits the same "no password" behavior of steps 3-5.

Questions :
-----------
Is it expected that once autologin is enabled, access to that account is 
password free, even though the locking screensaver is activated?

Is there a way to actually disable the switch user button in the 
screensaver authentication dialog?



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 17 08:24:46 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:24:46 +0000
Subject: Problems with Today's Rawhide
In-Reply-To: <48F7D0F8.6070407@omen.com>
References: <48F7D0F8.6070407@omen.com>
Message-ID: <48F84BCE.2030905@hi.is>

Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> I upgraded a working Rawhide partition and also did a fresh
> install on another partition, both on the MSI p43ne03 and
> Core Duo.
>
Fresh install with snapshot 1 ?
> 1.  No echo on console tty login (both partitions)
>
> 2.  Xlinrad now segfaults when attempting to access the sound system.
> Recompiling it didn't help.
>
It is libpulse thats segfaulting.
> 3.  Add/remove software can't find its repository.
>
> 4.  Firstrun after install script crashes attempting to add user.
>
Had the same here, I thought it was because I want back in first boot then
forward again, the user got created thou.
> 5.  http://lwn.net gets my local web site instead of lwn.net.
> Windows Firefox on the same machine works normally.
This could be happening because libresolve is secfaulting.

Did you file bugs.


JBG
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From allenhalsey at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 09:02:56 2008
From: allenhalsey at gmail.com (Allen Halsey)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Keyboard repeat delay too short
Message-ID: <1224234176626-1344457.post@n2.nabble.com>


I noticed I was making a lot of double letter typos, so I went into 

    System > Preferences > Hardward > Keyboard 

and made the delay as long as possible, but this had little effect. The
delay is still too short.

Under Fedora 9, keyboard was fine. On Fedora 10, I noticed this since
installing the beta on October 1.

My smolt profile:
http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_3eb65d6c-6aa7-48d6-860b-7c3e965cd954
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From gronslet at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 10:02:26 2008
From: gronslet at gmail.com (MartinG)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:02:26 +0200
Subject: Suspend/resume problems with kernel 2.6.27-3.fc10 and
	2.6.27-13.fc10 (works in kernel-2.6.27-0.398.rc9.fc10)
Message-ID: <bcb3ef430810170302m4cf81a8fie979052526e43621@mail.gmail.com>

With the latest kernels kernel-2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
kernel-2.6.27-13.fc10.i686, my
Dell Latitude X1 (Intel i915 graphics) does no longer wake up properly
after suspend:
All I can see is the graphical mouse pointer on a black background,
and the keyboard
does not seem to work (caps lock does not toggle the caps lock led).
So, this might be related to the keyboard driver not resuming after suspend,
or to some modeset changes in xorg.

Everything seems to work just fine if I instead boot
kernel-2.6.27-0.398.rc9.fc10.i686.

Smolt profile:
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_01507560-2bed-4c14-94a5-c72964bb4b84

I have a Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML graphics card, and use
the "intel" driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. In my grub.conf I do not
have any modeset
magic, as that broke X in earlier rawhide updates. Maybe this has changed now
- in that case, what would be the appropriate kernel parameters?

I am using KDE 4 with compiz-fusion and have the following lines in my
xorg.conf:
        Option      "AccelMethod" "XAA" # not EXA
        Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
Which makes X work "pretty well". I do get a lot of errors like
  X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)
  Resource id:  0x4a25e5f
in my ~/.xsession-errors.

Below is what /var/log/messages says when I resume in
kernel-2.6.27-3 and am forced to press the powerbutton (pressed once,
resulting in safe powerdown,
suspending 16:53:33, resuming 19:44:13 and pressing powerbutton at
19:45:11 I think)

I'd be happy to provide more details, please let me know.

-MartinG

Oct 15 16:53:33 x1 kernel: PM: Syncing filesystems ... done.
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Stopping security manager 0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: HCI dev 0 down
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Unregistered interface
org.bluez.NetworkPeer on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Unregistered interface
org.bluez.NetworkHub on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Unregistered interface
org.bluez.NetworkRouter on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Adapter /org/bluez/hci0 has been disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: HCI dev 0 unregistered
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Unregister path: /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: HCI dev 0 registered
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: HCI dev 0 up
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 acpid: client has disconnected
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed
0.00 seconds) done.
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Freezing remaining freezable tasks ...
(elapsed 0.00 seconds) done.
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Suspending console(s) (use
no_console_suspend to debug)
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: pci 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb f580c500
failed to resubmit (2)
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronizing SCSI cache
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Stopping disk
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: eth1: Going into suspend...
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ipw2200 0000:02:03.0: PCI INT A disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: sdhci-pci 0000:02:01.2: PCI INT C disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: PCI INT A disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Intel ICH Modem 0000:00:1e.3: PCI INT B disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Intel ICH 0000:00:1e.2: PCI INT A disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: PCI INT A disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: PCI INT D disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: PCI INT C disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: PCI INT B disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: PCI INT A disabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: PM: suspend devices took 1.500 seconds
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ACPI: Preparing to enter system sleep state S3
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Disabling non-boot CPUs ...
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Intel machine check architecture supported.
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ACPI: Waking up from system sleep state S3
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16
(level, low) -> IRQ 16
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: usb usb2: root hub lost power or was reset
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: enabling device (0000 -> 0001)
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: PCI INT B -> GSI 17
(level, low) -> IRQ 17
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: usb usb3: root hub lost power or was reset
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: enabling device (0000 -> 0001)
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: PCI INT C -> GSI 18
(level, low) -> IRQ 18
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: usb usb4: root hub lost power or was reset
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0001)
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.3: PCI INT D -> GSI 19
(level, low) -> IRQ 19
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: usb usb5: root hub lost power or was reset
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: PCI INT A -> GSI 16
(level, low) -> IRQ 16
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: usb usb1: root hub lost power or was reset
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: debug port 1
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Intel ICH 0000:00:1e.2: PCI INT A -> GSI 16
(level, low) -> IRQ 16
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Intel ICH Modem 0000:00:1e.3: PCI INT B ->
GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: PCI INT A -> GSI 16
(level, low) -> IRQ 16
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ata1.00: _GTF evaluation failed (AE 0x1001)
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: firewire_core: skipped bus generations,
destroying all nodes
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 58605120 512-byte
hardware sectors (30006 MB)
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled,
read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: sdhci-pci 0000:02:01.2: PCI INT C -> GSI 17
(level, low) -> IRQ 17
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: eth1: Coming out of suspend...
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ipw2200 0000:02:03.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: ipw2200 0000:02:03.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17
(level, low) -> IRQ 17
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID
484fc000163ad030, S400
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: usb 3-1: reset full speed USB device using
uhci_hcd and address 2
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: pci 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16
(level, low) -> IRQ 16
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: PM: resume devices took 3.598 seconds
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Registered interface
org.bluez.SerialProxyManager on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Registered interface
org.bluez.NetworkPeer on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Registered interface
org.bluez.NetworkHub on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Registered interface
org.bluez.NetworkRouter on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Failed to listen on control channel
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Registered interface
org.bluez.Service on path /org/bluez/hci0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Adapter /org/bluez/hci0 has been enabled
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 bluetoothd[3633]: Starting security manager 0
Oct 15 19:44:13 x1 kernel: Restarting tasks ... done.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 acpid: client connected from 2449[0:0]
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Waking up...
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): now managed
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): device state change: 1 -> 2
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): bringing up device.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): preparing device.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): deactivating device
(reason: 2).
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): now managed
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): device state change: 1 -> 2
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): bringing up device.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): preparing device.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): deactivating device
(reason: 2).
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): device state change: 2 -> 3
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): supplicant
interface state change: 1 -> 2.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) starting
connection 'Auto XXX'
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): device state change: 3 -> 4
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 1
of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): supplicant
connection state change: 0 -> 2
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 1
of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 2
of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 1
of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 2
of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): device state change: 4 -> 5
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1/wireless):
connection 'Auto XXX' has security, and secrets exist.  No new secrets
needed.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Config: added 'ssid' value 'XXX'
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1'
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Config: added 'key_mgmt'
value 'WPA-PSK'
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Config: added 'psk' value '<omitted>'
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Config: added 'proto' value 'WPA RSN'
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Config: added 'pairwise'
value 'TKIP CCMP'
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Config: added 'group' value
'WEP40 WEP104 TKIP CCMP'
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 2
of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Config: set interface ap_scan to 1
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): supplicant
connection state change: 2 -> 0
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): supplicant
connection state change: 0 -> 2
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): supplicant
connection state change: 2 -> 3
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth1: link becomes ready
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): supplicant
connection state change: 3 -> 4
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): supplicant
connection state change: 4 -> 5
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): supplicant
connection state change: 5 -> 6
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): supplicant
connection state change: 6 -> 7
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1/wireless)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.  Connected to wireless
network 'XXX'.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 3
of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 3
of 5 (IP Configure Start) started...
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): device state change: 5 -> 7
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Beginning
DHCP transaction.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.0.0
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 dhclient: Copyright 2004-2007 Internet Systems Consortium.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 dhclient: All rights reserved.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 dhclient: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 dhclient:
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  dhclient started with pid 5503
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 3
of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete.
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  DHCP: device eth1 state
changed normal exit -> preinit
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 dhclient: Listening on LPF/eth1/00:12:f0:62:c5:88
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 dhclient: Sending on   LPF/eth1/00:12:f0:62:c5:88
Oct 15 19:44:14 x1 dhclient: Sending on   Socket/fallback
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255
port 67 interval 5
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 dhclient: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.3.1
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 dhclient: DHCPACK from 192.168.3.1
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  DHCP: device eth1 state
changed preinit -> bound
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 4
of 5 (IP Configure Get) scheduled...
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 4
of 5 (IP Configure Get) started...
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>    address 192.168.3.6
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>    prefix 24 (255.255.255.0)
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>    gateway 192.168.3.1
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>    hostname 'x1'
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>    nameserver '192.168.3.1'
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>    domain name 'xxx'
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 5
of 5 (IP Configure Commit) scheduled...
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 4
of 5 (IP Configure Get) complete.
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 5
of 5 (IP Configure Commit) started...
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 avahi-daemon[2320]: Joining mDNS multicast group on
interface eth1.IPv4 with address 192.168.3.6.
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 avahi-daemon[2320]: New relevant interface
eth1.IPv4 for mDNS.
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 avahi-daemon[2320]: Registering new address record
for 192.168.3.6 on eth1.IPv4.
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 dhclient: bound to 192.168.3.6 -- renewal in 36043 seconds.
Oct 15 19:44:15 x1 avahi-daemon[2320]: Registering new address record
for <snip> on eth1.*.
Oct 15 19:44:16 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): device state change: 7 -> 8
Oct 15 19:44:16 x1 NetworkManager: <WARN>
nm_system_replace_default_ip4_route(): replace_default_ip4_route()
returned error Success (0)
Oct 15 19:44:16 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Policy set 'Auto XXX'
(eth1) as default for routing and DNS.
Oct 15 19:44:16 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1)
successful, device activated.
Oct 15 19:44:16 x1 NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1) Stage 5
of 5 (IP Configure Commit) complete.
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5608]: ntpd 4.2.4p5 at 1.1541-o Wed Oct  8
11:22:54 UTC 2008 (1)
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: precision = 2.095 usec
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Listening on interface #0 wildcard,
0.0.0.0#123 Disabled
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Listening on interface #1 wildcard,
::#123 Disabled
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Listening on interface #2 lo, ::1#123 Enabled
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Listening on interface #3 eth1,
fe80::212:f0ff:fe62:c588#123 Enabled
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Listening on interface #4 lo,
127.0.0.1#123 Enabled
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Listening on interface #5 eth1,
192.168.3.6#123 Enabled
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Listening on routing socket on fd #22
for interface updates
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: kernel time sync status 0040
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: frequency initialized -77.072 PPM from
/var/lib/ntp/drift
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Warning: the "dynamic" keyword has been
obsoleted and will be removed in the next release
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Warning: the "dynamic" keyword has been
obsoleted and will be removed in the next release
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Warning: the "dynamic" keyword has been
obsoleted and will be removed in the next release
Oct 15 19:44:34 x1 ntpd[5609]: Warning: the "dynamic" keyword has been
obsoleted and will be removed in the next release
Oct 15 19:44:36 x1 ntpd_initres[5612]: host name not found:
0.fedora.pool.ntp.org
Oct 15 19:44:36 x1 ntpd_initres[5612]: host name not found:
1.fedora.pool.ntp.org
Oct 15 19:44:36 x1 ntpd_initres[5612]: host name not found:
2.fedora.pool.ntp.org
Oct 15 19:44:36 x1 ntpd_initres[5612]: host name not found: europe.pool.ntp.org
Oct 15 19:45:06 x1 init: tty4 main process (2401) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:06 x1 init: tty5 main process (2402) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:06 x1 init: tty2 main process (2403) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:06 x1 init: tty3 main process (2404) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:06 x1 init: tty6 main process (2405) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:06 x1 init: rc6 main process (5638) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: rc6 main process (5660) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: rc6 main process (5673) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: rc6 main process (5683) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: rc6 main process (5691) killed by TERM signal
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:07 x1 init: control-alt-delete respawning too fast, stopped
Oct 15 19:45:11 x1 init: prefdm main process (2400) killed by KILL signal
Oct 15 19:45:38 x1 ntpd_initres[5612]: host name not found:
0.fedora.pool.ntp.org
Oct 15 19:45:38 x1 ntpd_initres[5612]: host name not found:
1.fedora.pool.ntp.org
Oct 15 19:45:38 x1 ntpd_initres[5612]: host name not found:
2.fedora.pool.ntp.org
Oct 15 19:45:38 x1 ntpd_initres[5612]: host name not found: europe.pool.ntp.org
Oct 15 19:45:54 x1 smartd[2397]: smartd received signal 15: Terminated
Oct 15 19:45:54 x1 smartd[2397]: smartd is exiting (exit status 0)
Oct 15 19:45:54 x1 init: rc6 main process (5738) killed by TERM signal



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 17 10:29:20 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:29:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081017 changes
Message-ID: <20081017102920.A94A11B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri Oct 17 06:01:16 UTC 2008

New package DivFix++
        A program to repair broken AVI file streams by rebuilding index part of file
New package apt-mirror
        APT sources mirroring tool
New package perl-Net-Daemon
        Perl extension for portable daemons
New package primer3
        PCR primer design tool
New package printoxx
        Print image files
New package pthsem
        The GNU Portable Threads library extended with semaphore support
New package publican-ovirt
        Common documentation files for oVirt
New package qpackagekit
        Qt interface for PackageKit
New package sugar-moon
        Moon phases activity for sugar
Updated Packages:

R-2.7.2-2.fc10
--------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 2.7.2-2
- fix sh compile (bz 464055)


amqp-1.0.705289-1.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Nuno Santos <nsantos at redhat.com> - 0:1.0.705289-1
- Rebased to svn rev 705289


asterisk-1.6.0.1-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Jeffrey C. Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> - 1.6.0.1-2
- Explicitly require dahdi-tools-libs to see if we can get this to build.


audacious-plugin-fc-0.3-1
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3-1
- Update to 0.3 for Audacious >= 1.4.0.


audit-1.7.7-2.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 1.7.7-2
- Remove selinux policy for zos-remote


ballz-1.0.1-1.fc10
------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Sylvain Beucler <beuc at beuc.net> - 1.0.1-1
- New upstream release that includes all patches and simplifies packaging


bluez-4.14-1.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.14-1
- Update to 4.14


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.2.svn1353_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------

eclipse-3.4.1-2.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 3.4.1-2
- Fix quoting bug in pdebuild.sh.

* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 3.4.1-1
- Move copy-platform instead of copying it.

* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Andrew Overholt <overholt at redhat.com> 3.4.1-1
- Add conditionals around Equinox initialization to enable debugging.

* Mon Oct 13 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 3.4.1-1
- Symlink to ant-apache-bsf and ant-commons-net. 
- Update branding.
- Don't re-pack JARs (see fedora-devel-java-list discussion in September 2008).
- Update desktop-file-install usage and add --vendor=fedora. (Andrew Overholt)
- Resolves #466476. Fix pdebuild script. (Jeff Johnston)
- Remove dropins contents while running initializer. 
- Add patch for wrong javaHome on x86_64 in the native build.(Alexander Kurtakov)

* Fri Oct  3 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 3.4.1-0
- 3.4.1
- Update nojarsignatures patch.
- Added osgi-classpath.patch fixes broken bootclasspath (Sean Flanigan).
- Removed patches 33 and 34 - not needed anymore.


eclipse-cdt-5.0.0-10.fc10
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Jeff Johnston <jjohnstn at redhat.com> 5.0.0-9
- Fix org.eclipse.linuxtools.libhover.glibc plugin to add toc.xml to
  binary file list.

* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Jeff Johnston <jjohnstn at redhat.com> 5.0.0-8
- Fix org.eclipse.linuxtools.libhover.feature to include
  org.eclipse.linuxtools.libhover.library_docs plugin.
- Add work-around patch for managed configurations dialog problem.

* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Jeff Johnston <jjohnstn at redhat.com> 5.0.0-10
- Change runtests section to remove new libhover plugin rather than old
  com.redhat.* autotools plugin.


file-4.26-3.fc10
----------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Daniel Novotny <dnovotny at redhat.com> 4.26-3
- fix #465994 file --mime-encoding seems broken


glib2-2.18.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.18.2-1
- Update to 2.18.2


gnome-lirc-properties-0.2.8-11.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.2.8-11
- Fix the Logitech mini-receivers being tagged as remotes

* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.2.8-9
- Add support for Mac Mini remotes (#467149)

* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.2.8-8
- Fix glade warning on startup

* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.2.8-7
- Remove "Update" button, and don't load Fluendo provided remote
  definitions, they're older than ours

* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.2.8-10
- Add more receiver definitions


Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 11:39:25 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:39:25 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810160700q733457d7sd5975b9f1ce39757@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY124-W20FC77878F5443B0F21DA6D9330@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810152315v57b918c5ia249aa5e6beaa13e@mail.gmail.com>
	<bcb3ef430810160524y4c8e1768uaa500779949c682c@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY124-DS534311D29B2B15B5ACC6DD9330@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810160700q733457d7sd5975b9f1ce39757@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810170439s1e70449bjff4ba7b7562911a9@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/16 Christopher D. Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>
>>
>> Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If you do what I said and
>> type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does that fix the problem and
>> you're able to listen to things again?  I'm honestly not sure where to file
>> the problem either, but I feel it's probably a pulseaudio problem.  I'm not
>> really sure what you meant by "...problem can arise from the fact that
>> pulseaudio is in rawhide..."
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>
> as results are very different from kernel, I think that kernel is the
> problem: after some trials I Have reverted to 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
> Rhytmbox has played for an hour then crashed...VLC refuses to play
> same stream.
> Just to clarify my meaning, I am not satisfied with  multimedia (and
> things have not improved) in rawhide, sometimes I think the problem is
> that you have pulseaudio, Rhythmbox from rawhide, codecs from other
> parts, and there is no clear technical responsibility of which package
> is involved, at least for me that I am a very low-level tester: from
> the tester's point of view, it is difficult to file a bug (against
> what??)....also problem is well known.
> And when you show a Fedora system to a friend of yours, multimedia is
> important to check the quality of any OS (in many case more than
> network management and so on...)
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
kernel 2.6.27.2-23.rc1.fc10.i686 is bad as many other recent kernel,
with reference to multimedia.....my system is fully updated with
reference also to RPMFusion.
VLC plays bad, Rhythmbox is suffering from many interruptions....

And still Multimedia is becoming important in the choice of an OP,
shall I revert to Bill after eight years of RH/Fedora???? and rawhide
is not as raw as someone thinks, official release is not very
far......


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From jonrob at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 17 12:00:37 2008
From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:00:37 +0100
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
Message-ID: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm on a fully updated rawhide system and sound keeps dropping out at
random intervals, usually occurring after playing audio for around
30-40 minutes from a single application. Seems to start working again
if you restart the app (which seems to hang) or start using a
different app.

I've got my lspci output, as well as some output after launching
rhythmbox from the command line at the time of a crash. Is this
information enough for a bug report, or is there more information that
would be useful?

Jon



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 12:04:38 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:04:38 +0200
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810170504o2c1344c3n3e60fd08e5c33aa4@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/17 Jonathan Roberts <jonrob at fedoraproject.org>:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm on a fully updated rawhide system and sound keeps dropping out at
> random intervals, usually occurring after playing audio for around
> 30-40 minutes from a single application. Seems to start working again
> if you restart the app (which seems to hang) or start using a
> different app.
>
> I've got my lspci output, as well as some output after launching
> rhythmbox from the command line at the time of a crash. Is this
> information enough for a bug report, or is there more information that
> would be useful?
>
> Jon
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

I am suffering of same problem----see also my messages "Sound issues"!!!!

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 17 12:22:52 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:22:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810170439s1e70449bjff4ba7b7562911a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <585527.7568.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Sound issues
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:39 AM
> 2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> > 2008/10/16 Christopher D. Stover
> <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
> >
> >>
> >> Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If
> you do what I said and
> >> type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does
> that fix the problem and
> >> you're able to listen to things again? 
> I'm honestly not sure where to file
> >> the problem either, but I feel it's probably a
> pulseaudio problem.  I'm not
> >> really sure what you meant by "...problem can
> arise from the fact that
> >> pulseaudio is in rawhide..."
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >
> > as results are very different from kernel, I think
> that kernel is the
> > problem: after some trials I Have reverted to
> 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
> > Rhytmbox has played for an hour then crashed...VLC
> refuses to play
> > same stream.
> > Just to clarify my meaning, I am not satisfied with 
> multimedia (and
> > things have not improved) in rawhide, sometimes I
> think the problem is
> > that you have pulseaudio, Rhythmbox from rawhide,
> codecs from other
> > parts, and there is no clear technical responsibility
> of which package
> > is involved, at least for me that I am a very
> low-level tester: from
> > the tester's point of view, it is difficult to
> file a bug (against
> > what??)....also problem is well known.
> > And when you show a Fedora system to a friend of
> yours, multimedia is
> > important to check the quality of any OS (in many case
> more than
> > network management and so on...)
> > --
> > Antonio Montagnani
> > Skype : antoniomontag
> >
> kernel 2.6.27.2-23.rc1.fc10.i686 is bad as many other
> recent kernel,
> with reference to multimedia.....my system is fully updated
> with
> reference also to RPMFusion.
> VLC plays bad, Rhythmbox is suffering from many
> interruptions....
> 
> And still Multimedia is becoming important in the choice of
> an OP,
> shall I revert to Bill after eight years of RH/Fedora????
> and rawhide
> is not as raw as someone thinks, official release is not
> very
> far......
> 
> 
> -- 
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> 
> -- 

If you compile say mplayer from source does it make a difference?
I don't appear to have trouble playing multimedia files.  I have xine and mplayer compiled from source.  Don't give up on Fedora yet, report bugs complain and complain and if this does not make a difference(Nobody listens, answers to your bug reports), then you can go to Bill's software(OS).  

Regards,

Antonio

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From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 12:27:38 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:27:38 -0400
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810170504o2c1344c3n3e60fd08e5c33aa4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810170504o2c1344c3n3e60fd08e5c33aa4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810170527l3e064e72yeb6f61616d685dbe@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2008/10/17 Jonathan Roberts <jonrob at fedoraproject.org>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm on a fully updated rawhide system and sound keeps dropping out at
> > random intervals, usually occurring after playing audio for around
> > 30-40 minutes from a single application. Seems to start working again
> > if you restart the app (which seems to hang) or start using a
> > different app.
> >
> > I've got my lspci output, as well as some output after launching
> > rhythmbox from the command line at the time of a crash. Is this
> > information enough for a bug report, or is there more information that
> > would be useful?
>
> I am suffering of same problem----see also my messages "Sound issues"!!!!
>

And mine stutters and hicups every second or so, making it totally unusable.
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 12:34:16 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:34:16 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <585527.7568.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810170439s1e70449bjff4ba7b7562911a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<585527.7568.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810170534kc81bb8eib27a8c24860256de@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/17 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>:
> --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Sound issues
>> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:39 AM
>> 2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> > 2008/10/16 Christopher D. Stover
>> <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If
>> you do what I said and
>> >> type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does
>> that fix the problem and
>> >> you're able to listen to things again?
>> I'm honestly not sure where to file
>> >> the problem either, but I feel it's probably a
>> pulseaudio problem.  I'm not
>> >> really sure what you meant by "...problem can
>> arise from the fact that
>> >> pulseaudio is in rawhide..."
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >
>> > as results are very different from kernel, I think
>> that kernel is the
>> > problem: after some trials I Have reverted to
>> 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
>> > Rhytmbox has played for an hour then crashed...VLC
>> refuses to play
>> > same stream.
>> > Just to clarify my meaning, I am not satisfied with
>> multimedia (and
>> > things have not improved) in rawhide, sometimes I
>> think the problem is
>> > that you have pulseaudio, Rhythmbox from rawhide,
>> codecs from other
>> > parts, and there is no clear technical responsibility
>> of which package
>> > is involved, at least for me that I am a very
>> low-level tester: from
>> > the tester's point of view, it is difficult to
>> file a bug (against
>> > what??)....also problem is well known.
>> > And when you show a Fedora system to a friend of
>> yours, multimedia is
>> > important to check the quality of any OS (in many case
>> more than
>> > network management and so on...)
>> > --
>> > Antonio Montagnani
>> > Skype : antoniomontag
>> >
>> kernel 2.6.27.2-23.rc1.fc10.i686 is bad as many other
>> recent kernel,
>> with reference to multimedia.....my system is fully updated
>> with
>> reference also to RPMFusion.
>> VLC plays bad, Rhythmbox is suffering from many
>> interruptions....
>>
>> And still Multimedia is becoming important in the choice of
>> an OP,
>> shall I revert to Bill after eight years of RH/Fedora????
>> and rawhide
>> is not as raw as someone thinks, official release is not
>> very
>> far......
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>> --
>
> If you compile say mplayer from source does it make a difference?
> I don't appear to have trouble playing multimedia files.  I have xine and mplayer compiled from source.  Don't give up on Fedora yet, report bugs complain and complain and if this does not make a difference(Nobody listens, answers to your bug reports), then you can go to Bill's software(OS).
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
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i have reverted to 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 and issues have
disappeared (not sure, but at least Rhythmbox plays fine..for the time
being): I am reverting also to the laptop to same kernel.....I will
not file any other bug !!! sorry..as you know situation on multimedia
is poor(sound speed is well known, isn't it?) , especially if you have
an Intel chips, as I have both on desktop and laptop.
What is wrong between 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10 and following kernels is
out of my skill, I am an humble tester(FHC=Fedora humble tester), not
a IT guru... :-(.


-- 
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Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 12:35:43 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:35:43 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810170534kc81bb8eib27a8c24860256de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810170439s1e70449bjff4ba7b7562911a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<585527.7568.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4c37b6af0810170534kc81bb8eib27a8c24860256de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810170535q677abcc9j42e0b3fef2b4eba8@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/17 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/17 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>:
>> --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Sound issues
>>> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>>> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:39 AM
>>> 2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> > 2008/10/16 Christopher D. Stover
>>> <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If
>>> you do what I said and
>>> >> type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does
>>> that fix the problem and
>>> >> you're able to listen to things again?
>>> I'm honestly not sure where to file
>>> >> the problem either, but I feel it's probably a
>>> pulseaudio problem.  I'm not
>>> >> really sure what you meant by "...problem can
>>> arise from the fact that
>>> >> pulseaudio is in rawhide..."
>>> >>
>>> >> Chris
>>> >>
>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > as results are very different from kernel, I think
>>> that kernel is the
>>> > problem: after some trials I Have reverted to
>>> 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
>>> > Rhytmbox has played for an hour then crashed...VLC
>>> refuses to play
>>> > same stream.
>>> > Just to clarify my meaning, I am not satisfied with
>>> multimedia (and
>>> > things have not improved) in rawhide, sometimes I
>>> think the problem is
>>> > that you have pulseaudio, Rhythmbox from rawhide,
>>> codecs from other
>>> > parts, and there is no clear technical responsibility
>>> of which package
>>> > is involved, at least for me that I am a very
>>> low-level tester: from
>>> > the tester's point of view, it is difficult to
>>> file a bug (against
>>> > what??)....also problem is well known.
>>> > And when you show a Fedora system to a friend of
>>> yours, multimedia is
>>> > important to check the quality of any OS (in many case
>>> more than
>>> > network management and so on...)
>>> > --
>>> > Antonio Montagnani
>>> > Skype : antoniomontag
>>> >
>>> kernel 2.6.27.2-23.rc1.fc10.i686 is bad as many other
>>> recent kernel,
>>> with reference to multimedia.....my system is fully updated
>>> with
>>> reference also to RPMFusion.
>>> VLC plays bad, Rhythmbox is suffering from many
>>> interruptions....
>>>
>>> And still Multimedia is becoming important in the choice of
>>> an OP,
>>> shall I revert to Bill after eight years of RH/Fedora????
>>> and rawhide
>>> is not as raw as someone thinks, official release is not
>>> very
>>> far......
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> If you compile say mplayer from source does it make a difference?
>> I don't appear to have trouble playing multimedia files.  I have xine and mplayer compiled from source.  Don't give up on Fedora yet, report bugs complain and complain and if this does not make a difference(Nobody listens, answers to your bug reports), then you can go to Bill's software(OS).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
>> http://mail.yahoo.com
>>
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>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
> i have reverted to 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 and issues have
> disappeared (not sure, but at least Rhythmbox plays fine..for the time
> being): I am reverting also to the laptop to same kernel.....I will
> not file any other bug !!! sorry..as you know situation on multimedia
> is poor(sound speed is well known, isn't it?) , especially if you have
> an Intel chips, as I have both on desktop and laptop.
> What is wrong between 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10 and following kernels is
> out of my skill, I am an humble tester(FHC=Fedora humble tester), not
> a IT guru... :-(.
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

and also VLC seems to be playing fine....

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 12:39:26 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:39:26 +0200
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <8204a4fe0810170527l3e064e72yeb6f61616d685dbe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810170504o2c1344c3n3e60fd08e5c33aa4@mail.gmail.com>
	<8204a4fe0810170527l3e064e72yeb6f61616d685dbe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810170539s2ca33463y4cb27c29e54e8df8@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/17 Fulko Hew <fulko.hew at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2008/10/17 Jonathan Roberts <jonrob at fedoraproject.org>:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I'm on a fully updated rawhide system and sound keeps dropping out at
>> > random intervals, usually occurring after playing audio for around
>> > 30-40 minutes from a single application. Seems to start working again
>> > if you restart the app (which seems to hang) or start using a
>> > different app.
>> >
>> > I've got my lspci output, as well as some output after launching
>> > rhythmbox from the command line at the time of a crash. Is this
>> > information enough for a bug report, or is there more information that
>> > would be useful?
>>
>> I am suffering of same problem----see also my messages "Sound issues"!!!!
>
> And mine stutters and hicups every second or so, making it totally unusable.
>
>
> --
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> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
well at least my English is improving (stutters and hicups will be
included in my dictionary) :-)


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 12:42:48 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:42:48 +0100
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810170542y6965fd95i1db10eaaada23501@mail.gmail.com>

> I'm on a fully updated rawhide system and sound keeps dropping out at
> random intervals, usually occurring after playing audio for around
> 30-40 minutes from a single application. Seems to start working again
> if you restart the app (which seems to hang) or start using a
> different app.
>
> I've got my lspci output, as well as some output after launching
> rhythmbox from the command line at the time of a crash. Is this
> information enough for a bug report, or is there more information that
> would be useful?

Sounds very like the issue I'm seeing with pulseaudio dying on F-9

Peter



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 12:47:20 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:47:20 +0200
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810170542y6965fd95i1db10eaaada23501@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<5256d0b0810170542y6965fd95i1db10eaaada23501@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810170547h21622bcay56c53808588743d9@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/17 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
>> I'm on a fully updated rawhide system and sound keeps dropping out at
>> random intervals, usually occurring after playing audio for around
>> 30-40 minutes from a single application. Seems to start working again
>> if you restart the app (which seems to hang) or start using a
>> different app.
>>
>> I've got my lspci output, as well as some output after launching
>> rhythmbox from the command line at the time of a crash. Is this
>> information enough for a bug report, or is there more information that
>> would be useful?
>
> Sounds very like the issue I'm seeing with pulseaudio dying on F-9
>
> Peter
>
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IMHO there two points:
1 pulseaudio (I will report if an old system applications will die...)
2 kernel (I am playing with an old kernel-2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686
and it seems o.k., younger are bad)

-- 
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Skype : antoniomontag



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 17 12:47:14 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:47:14 +0000
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810170542y6965fd95i1db10eaaada23501@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<5256d0b0810170542y6965fd95i1db10eaaada23501@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F88952.1050507@hi.is>

Peter Robinson wrote:
>> I'm on a fully updated rawhide system and sound keeps dropping out at
>> random intervals, usually occurring after playing audio for around
>> 30-40 minutes from a single application. Seems to start working again
>> if you restart the app (which seems to hang) or start using a
>> different app.
>>
>> I've got my lspci output, as well as some output after launching
>> rhythmbox from the command line at the time of a crash. Is this
>> information enough for a bug report, or is there more information that
>> would be useful?
>>     
>
> Sounds very like the issue I'm seeing with pulseaudio dying on F-9
>
> Peter
>
>   
Proper direction on how to debug and file a bug report against PA
can be found on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-09.

Any issues regarding sound problems in apps installed from rpmfusion repo
should be discussed on the rpmfusion-users list.

JBG
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From jimhayward at embarqmail.com  Fri Oct 17 13:08:57 2008
From: jimhayward at embarqmail.com (Jim Hayward)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:08:57 -0700
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
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References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield> <20081016135058.GA28230@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <1224248937.2984.1.camel@garfield>

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 08:50 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> You might try booting with nomodeset. I have a r530 based card and while things
> are getting better I can still coerce an X lockup or kernel crash (it's hard
> to tell which is happening from the console sometimes). Things are stable
> there (but at home with an r280 card nomodeset breaks things) when I use
> nomodeset.

I'll try that and see what happens. Thanks.

> I have a ticket open for my lockups that I have been updating as I reproduce
> the problem with later versions of things that are X related (kernel,
> xorg ati driver, xorg server, mesa).

Bug #?

Regards,
	Jim H



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 13:10:16 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:10:16 +0200
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <48F88952.1050507@hi.is>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<5256d0b0810170542y6965fd95i1db10eaaada23501@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F88952.1050507@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810170610g6b9ac5a1je41060ffc5943dcd@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/17 "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" <johannbg at hi.is>:
> Peter Robinson wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm on a fully updated rawhide system and sound keeps dropping out at
>>> random intervals, usually occurring after playing audio for around
>>> 30-40 minutes from a single application. Seems to start working again
>>> if you restart the app (which seems to hang) or start using a
>>> different app.
>>>
>>> I've got my lspci output, as well as some output after launching
>>> rhythmbox from the command line at the time of a crash. Is this
>>> information enough for a bug report, or is there more information that
>>> would be useful?
>>>
>>
>> Sounds very like the issue I'm seeing with pulseaudio dying on F-9
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>
> Proper direction on how to debug and file a bug report against PA
> can be found on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-09.
>
> Any issues regarding sound problems in apps installed from rpmfusion repo
> should be discussed on the rpmfusion-users list.
>
> JBG
>
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if I carry test for PA everything seems o.k., nevertheless it dies, I
have to kill application and restart same application to recover sound
(Rhythmbox).
In my opinion no application from Rpmfusion is causing what we experience...

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 17 13:24:21 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher D. Stover)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:24:21 -0500
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DS370180F2C4EB210BF9656D9320@phx.gbl>

Hi Jon,
I'm experiencing the same problem as you. I've found that if I do 
pulseaudio -k and then restart the application, things work again.  I 
believe we do need to file a report at some point, but I'm not entirely sure 
the problem is narrowed down to pulseaudio.  As JBG mentioned, check out 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-09 and that will help you 
some.  Let me know what your results are.  Maybe we can figure out the 
problem between the two of us.

Peter -- You're having this issue in FC9?  Have you upgraded to FC10 and do 
you still have the same problem?

Fulko -- Your problem is a bit different I think, see this bug report: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466840.

Chris

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jonathan Roberts" <jonrob at fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:00 AM
To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" 
<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta

> Hi all,
>
> I'm on a fully updated rawhide system and sound keeps dropping out at
> random intervals, usually occurring after playing audio for around
> 30-40 minutes from a single application. Seems to start working again
> if you restart the app (which seems to hang) or start using a
> different app.
>
> I've got my lspci output, as well as some output after launching
> rhythmbox from the command line at the time of a crash. Is this
> information enough for a bug report, or is there more information that
> would be useful?
>
> Jon
>
> -- 
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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From lsatenstein at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 17 13:25:54 2008
From: lsatenstein at yahoo.com (Leslie Satenstein)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:25:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: PackageKit hangs
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W431DE5BA64242A7018FCAED9300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <205004.71532.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If you also have yumex installed, you can disable a package at a time to determine the cause..? For example, I had found? there was a period in time when livna or Fedora Test was not available, and the software would hang, waiting for a response. 

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Christopher Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Christopher Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>
Subject: PackageKit hangs
To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 4:24 PM

I'm having troubles with PackageKit sometimes.  If I enable a repo that it
can't connect to, such as trying to connect to the new RPM Fusion Free
Testing, it just sits there and says "Enabling Repository (Waiting for
other tasks)" but there's no other tasks.  I also can't cancel it
so it's like there's no time out for it trying to connect or something. 
Anyone else experience any issues like this?

Chris

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From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 17 13:41:44 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher D. Stover)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:41:44 -0500
Subject: PackageKit hangs
In-Reply-To: <205004.71532.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <205004.71532.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DS2A0182B7D394D40D645C4D9320@phx.gbl>

Hi Leslie,
By 'disable a package at a time,' I'm assuming you mean disable repo[s]?  If this is what you mean, then yes, if I disable the ones that aren't working, the problem goes away.  It's just kind of annoying to accidentally click a repo, like the RPM Fusion test, have it not work and hang up my PackageKit. Thanks for your response.

Chris


From: Leslie Satenstein 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:25 AM
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases 
Subject: Re: PackageKit hangs


      If you also have yumex installed, you can disable a package at a time to determine the cause..  For example, I had found  there was a period in time when livna or Fedora Test was not available, and the software would hang, waiting for a response. 

      --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Christopher Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com> wrote:

        From: Christopher Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>
        Subject: PackageKit hangs
        To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
        Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 4:24 PM


I'm having troubles with PackageKit sometimes.  If I enable a repo that itcan't connect to, such as trying to connect to the new RPM Fusion FreeTesting, it just sits there and says "Enabling Repository (Waiting forother
 tasks)" but there's no other tasks.  I also can't cancel itso it's like there's no time out for it trying to connect or something. Anyone else experience any issues like this?Chris-- fedora-test-list mailing listfedora-test-list at redhat.comTo unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list 



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From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 13:47:52 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:47:52 -0400
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-DS370180F2C4EB210BF9656D9320@phx.gbl>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY124-DS370180F2C4EB210BF9656D9320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810170647y188b9927s69766a8505363dba@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Christopher D. Stover <
quantumburnz at hotmail.com> wrote:

... snip ...


> Fulko -- Your problem is a bit different I think, see this bug report:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466840.
>

I'm not sure if it _is_ the same issue.
That BZ entry refers more to 'snaps, crackles and pops'.

I just get plain dropouts.
I haven't tried any applications, only the KDE desktop,
and during login it plays a little tune.

That tune simply stutters.  I don't recall any artifacts,
only what sounds like 'buffer underruns'.
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From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Fri Oct 17 14:01:25 2008
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:01:25 +0200
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810170610g6b9ac5a1je41060ffc5943dcd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<5256d0b0810170542y6965fd95i1db10eaaada23501@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F88952.1050507@hi.is>
	<4c37b6af0810170610g6b9ac5a1je41060ffc5943dcd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081017160125.2bcfbd07.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:10:16 +0200, Antonio M wrote:

> if I carry test for PA everything seems o.k., nevertheless it dies, I
> have to kill application and restart same application to recover sound
> (Rhythmbox).

What is listed if you display
GNOME Menu > System > Preferences > Hardware > Sound?
 
With Rawhide I've had terrible sound-quality after recent updates and it
returned to normal after selecting different devices in that dialog. At
least it made Rhythmbox work again. I believe there's still a lot of
fragility with regard to PulseAudio.



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 14:24:14 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:24:14 +0100
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-DS370180F2C4EB210BF9656D9320@phx.gbl>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY124-DS370180F2C4EB210BF9656D9320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810170724x348edd51ra6a29e5d8763b44e@mail.gmail.com>

> Hi Jon,
> I'm experiencing the same problem as you. I've found that if I do pulseaudio
> -k and then restart the application, things work again.  I believe we do
> need to file a report at some point, but I'm not entirely sure the problem
> is narrowed down to pulseaudio.  As JBG mentioned, check out
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-09 and that will help you
> some.  Let me know what your results are.  Maybe we can figure out the
> problem between the two of us.
>
> Peter -- You're having this issue in FC9?  Have you upgraded to FC10 and do
> you still have the same problem?

No I haven't upgraded to F-10 on this laptop, it is my work laptop
that I need to be stable. I run F-10 on my eeePC but haven't used
audio enough on it to see if it sees the same issues.

The bug I filed is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466231

Peter



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 17 14:25:18 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:25:18 -0500
Subject: bodhi comment becomes anonymous
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081015T182037-883@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20081015T113350-811@post.gmane.org>
	<20081015154211.GA15239@wolff.to>
	<loom.20081015T182037-883@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20081017142518.GA2525@wolff.to>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:21:42 +0000,
  Mike <mike.cloaked at gmail.com> wrote:
> Bruno Wolff III <bruno <at> wolff.to> writes:
> 
> > I think you need to actually login to not be considered anonymous.
> 
> You mean you have to have a Fedora account before you can make 
> non-anonymous comments? 

I think so.



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 17 14:32:21 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:32:21 -0500
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
In-Reply-To: <1224248937.2984.1.camel@garfield>
References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield>
	<20081016135058.GA28230@wolff.to>
	<1224248937.2984.1.camel@garfield>
Message-ID: <20081017143221.GB2525@wolff.to>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 06:08:57 -0700,
  Jim Hayward <jimhayward at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 08:50 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> 
> > I have a ticket open for my lockups that I have been updating as I reproduce
> > the problem with later versions of things that are X related (kernel,
> > xorg ati driver, xorg server, mesa).
> 
> Bug #?

461801 for my r530 based card and 462420 for my r280 based card regarding
the nomodeset option.



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 17 14:33:27 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:33:27 -0400
Subject: Howto start Bluetooth Mouse
In-Reply-To: <2411f6b20810162236s5fa82eaap350a153b45c0735c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>	<1224192896.3183.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>
	<2411f6b20810162236s5fa82eaap350a153b45c0735c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F8A237.6090608@sbcglobal.net>

Joey Krane wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net 
> <mailto:mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>
>     Will Woods wrote:
>
>         On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
>          
>
>             FC10, Latest Updates
>             How do you get the Bluetooth Mouse working on FC10 ??
>                
>
>
>         On my system, it goes something like this:
>
>         0) Make mouse discoverable*
>         1) Click Bluetooth icon
>         2) Click "Setup new device..." to start the BT Device Wizard
>         3) Click "Forward"
>         4) Choose the mouse from the list and click "Forward"
>         5) A pairing request will be received; click "Enter PIN"
>         6) Enter the PIN for your device*
>
>         And that's it. Use your newly-connected mouse to click "Close"
>         on the
>         Bluetooth wizard.
>         What happens when you try?
>
>         -w
>
>         *These things depend on what kind of mouse it is - for my
>         Apple mouse
>         you just open the lens cover and it starts blinking, and the
>         pin is
>         0000.
>
>          
>
>     Well my problem is I can't find the Bluetooth Icon.
>     Kbluetooth4 won't execute.
>     My bluetooth Mouse is a Logitech.
>     I had the mouse working on FC9 but I can't get to work on FC10.
>
>
>
> Check if your bluetooth service is running.
>
> # /etc/rc.d/init.d/bluetooth start
>
> This should put the bluetooth icon on the task bar if you have a 
> bluetooth adapter.
>
> Also, check /var/log/messages to ensure your bluetooth device is 
> recognised.
>
> Then follow instructions provided by Will.
>
> Steve
>
>
>  
>
>
>
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>
Bluetooth is enabled and running in services.
What Bluez packages do you have install on you box, I have a feeling I 
maybe missing a package ?
What does /sbin/lsmod give for bluetooth ?
I don't understand I had the same Logitech mouse and USBT100 Linksys 
dongle working perfect in FC9



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 17 14:43:27 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:43:27 -0400
Subject: Howto start Bluetooth Mouse
In-Reply-To: <1224228553.20887.0.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localdomain>
References: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>	<1224192896.3183.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>
	<1224228553.20887.0.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F8A48F.1040901@sbcglobal.net>

Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 23:08 -0400, Jim wrote:
>   
>> Will Woods wrote:
>>     
>>> On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> FC10, Latest Updates
>>>> How do you get the Bluetooth Mouse working on FC10 ??
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> On my system, it goes something like this:
>>>
>>> 0) Make mouse discoverable*
>>> 1) Click Bluetooth icon
>>> 2) Click "Setup new device..." to start the BT Device Wizard
>>> 3) Click "Forward"
>>> 4) Choose the mouse from the list and click "Forward"
>>> 5) A pairing request will be received; click "Enter PIN"
>>> 6) Enter the PIN for your device*
>>>
>>> And that's it. Use your newly-connected mouse to click "Close" on the
>>> Bluetooth wizard. 
>>>
>>> What happens when you try?
>>>
>>> -w
>>>
>>> *These things depend on what kind of mouse it is - for my Apple mouse
>>> you just open the lens cover and it starts blinking, and the pin is
>>> 0000.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Well my problem is I can't find the Bluetooth Icon.
>> Kbluetooth4 won't execute.
>> My bluetooth Mouse is a Logitech.
>> I had the mouse working on FC9 but I can't get to work on FC10.
>>
>>     
>
> Can you try starting kdebluetooth from a console and posting the output?
> What kind of bluetooth controller are you using?
>
> - Gilboa
>
>   
The command is kbluetooth4.
$ kbluetooth4
KBluetooth is already running
The mouse is a Logitech and the dongle is Linksys USBT100, and they both 
worked perfect on FC9.
The question is where is the bluetooth Icon ?



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 15:09:41 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:09:41 +0200
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <20081017160125.2bcfbd07.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<5256d0b0810170542y6965fd95i1db10eaaada23501@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F88952.1050507@hi.is>
	<4c37b6af0810170610g6b9ac5a1je41060ffc5943dcd@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081017160125.2bcfbd07.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810170809gbd49abblaba8a5e62b4532ea@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/17 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de>:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:10:16 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
>
>> if I carry test for PA everything seems o.k., nevertheless it dies, I
>> have to kill application and restart same application to recover sound
>> (Rhythmbox).
>
> What is listed if you display
> GNOME Menu > System > Preferences > Hardware > Sound?
>
> With Rawhide I've had terrible sound-quality after recent updates and it
> returned to normal after selecting different devices in that dialog. At
> least it made Rhythmbox work again. I believe there's still a lot of
> fragility with regard to PulseAudio.
>
> --
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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Sound effects:
 Sound Playback: Server Pulseaudio
Music and film:
Audio Playback: Automatic identification
Audioconference:
Audio Playback: Automatic identification
Audio acquisition: Silence (Mute)

Device: Analog Devices AD1985 (OSS Mixer)

Tnx
-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk  Fri Oct 17 16:44:33 2008
From: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:44:33 +0100
Subject: Audio dropping out in F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-DS370180F2C4EB210BF9656D9320@phx.gbl>
References: <507738ef0810170500t1ead596eg93a99876a5ad50dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY124-DS370180F2C4EB210BF9656D9320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1224261873.5015.2.camel@PB3.Linux>

Hi,

> I'm experiencing the same problem as you. I've found that if I do 
> pulseaudio -k and then restart the application, things work again.  I 
> believe we do need to file a report at some point, but I'm not entirely sure 
> the problem is narrowed down to pulseaudio.  As JBG mentioned, check out 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2008-10-09 and that will help you 
> some.  Let me know what your results are.  Maybe we can figure out the 
> problem between the two of us.

Which audio driver are you using? I know there is an issue with the
emu10k1 and pulseaudio which sounds exactly what you're getting.

TTFN

Paul
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From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 18:44:10 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:44:10 +0200
Subject: nvidia strangeness
Message-ID: <64b14b300810171144n623e1904l11ceb048f1131f2e@mail.gmail.com>

After last update and reboot I got really disturbed video.

I have Nvidia 6100go on HP tx1000 laptop using opensource nv driver running
fedora 10 (rawhide)

I can't even look what I'm typing so sorry for the typos...

Look how my fedora desktop looks after last update:
http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/DSC07584.JPG
http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/DSC07583.JPG
http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/DSC07582.JPG
http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/DSC07581.JPG

...

Bad, bad, bad...


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From per at bothner.com  Fri Oct 17 19:02:24 2008
From: per at bothner.com (Per Bothner)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:02:24 -0700
Subject: preupgrade to rawhide
In-Reply-To: <1223914977.3082.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810131551160.22007@sandbox.cz>
	<1223914977.3082.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F8E140.9090200@bothner.com>

Will Woods wrote:
>> Is preupgarde usable at the moment for update to Beta?
> 
> You're using an old version of preupgrade. Try preupgrade-0.9.8-2, from
> updates-testing.

It's not there (any more?), nor in "testing" - at least it not in
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/testing/9/i386.newkey/
or
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/9/i386.newkey/

I did manage to downloading preupgrade from
https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/
using the command
bzr branch bzr://bzr.fedorahosted.org/bzr/preupgrade/dev
followed by 'make' and 'make install'.

That sort-of works - preupgrade manages to run to completion.
However, when I re-boot, I (still) get a blank screen.

Has anybody managed to get F10 running on a ThinkPad T400
or other similar laptop with the Intel GM45 Express chipset
and "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 07)"?
-- 
	--Per Bothner
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From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct 17 19:14:28 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:14:28 -0600
Subject: sizes of yum metadata files
Message-ID: <20081017191428.GB13716@mail.harddata.com>

These files used to show up compressed with gzip.  It does not
seem to be the case for some time.  With sizes like

37M 0dc08d372184e56c71a32b6abbd6fbdd8eedfd3d-primary.sqlite
65M b860206f9cc245151e10625c725c8c2eb0145c31-filelists.sqlite

this makes a substantial difference on slower connections and not
everybody has T1.  A disk space starts to add up too.  Was this
change deliberate?  Even a default gzip compression shaves between
70 and 80 percent of these.

   Michal



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 17 19:21:07 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:21:07 -0400
Subject: sizes of yum metadata files
In-Reply-To: <20081017191428.GB13716@mail.harddata.com>
References: <20081017191428.GB13716@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1224271267.21581.93.camel@rosebud>

On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 13:14 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> These files used to show up compressed with gzip.  It does not
> seem to be the case for some time.  With sizes like
> 
> 37M 0dc08d372184e56c71a32b6abbd6fbdd8eedfd3d-primary.sqlite
> 65M b860206f9cc245151e10625c725c8c2eb0145c31-filelists.sqlite
> 
> this makes a substantial difference on slower connections and not
> everybody has T1.  A disk space starts to add up too.  Was this
> change deliberate?  Even a default gzip compression shaves between
> 70 and 80 percent of these.

What repo are you seeing these in?
those files are bzipped in the repo and decompressed and left
decompressed in your local cache dir.

-sv




From jkeating at redhat.com  Fri Oct 17 19:21:11 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:21:11 -0700
Subject: sizes of yum metadata files
In-Reply-To: <20081017191428.GB13716@mail.harddata.com>
References: <20081017191428.GB13716@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1224271272.4142.15.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 13:14 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> These files used to show up compressed with gzip.  It does not
> seem to be the case for some time.  With sizes like
> 
> 37M 0dc08d372184e56c71a32b6abbd6fbdd8eedfd3d-primary.sqlite
> 65M b860206f9cc245151e10625c725c8c2eb0145c31-filelists.sqlite
> 
> this makes a substantial difference on slower connections and not
> everybody has T1. 

A) Which repo

B) are you sure you're just not seeing the bunziped local versions that
remain bunzipped?  The download itself is bzip2d.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
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From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct 17 20:24:28 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:24:28 -0600
Subject: sizes of yum metadata files
In-Reply-To: <1224271267.21581.93.camel@rosebud>
References: <20081017191428.GB13716@mail.harddata.com>
	<1224271267.21581.93.camel@rosebud>
Message-ID: <20081017202428.GB14466@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 03:21:07PM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 13:14 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > These files used to show up compressed with gzip.  It does not
> > seem to be the case for some time.  With sizes like
> > 
> > 37M 0dc08d372184e56c71a32b6abbd6fbdd8eedfd3d-primary.sqlite
> > 65M b860206f9cc245151e10625c725c8c2eb0145c31-filelists.sqlite
> > 
> > this makes a substantial difference on slower connections and not
> > everybody has T1.  A disk space starts to add up too.  Was this
> > change deliberate?  Even a default gzip compression shaves between
> > 70 and 80 percent of these.
> 
> What repo are you seeing these in?

Hm.  I did not pay attention and now this information is gone.
Will look closer next time.  Of course no guarantees that I will
get the same mirror.

> those files are bzipped in the repo and decompressed and left
> decompressed in your local cache dir.

Do they have to be decompressed?  With one rawhide repo this is not
that much.  Once you have few of these, plus "testing", plus some
"debuginfo" for at least some of repos, it will be much harder not
to notice that on your disk.

   Michal



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 17 20:31:55 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:31:55 -0400
Subject: sizes of yum metadata files
In-Reply-To: <20081017202428.GB14466@mail.harddata.com>
References: <20081017191428.GB13716@mail.harddata.com>
	<1224271267.21581.93.camel@rosebud>
	<20081017202428.GB14466@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <1224275515.21581.102.camel@rosebud>

On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 14:24 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 03:21:07PM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 13:14 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > > These files used to show up compressed with gzip.  It does not
> > > seem to be the case for some time.  With sizes like
> > > 
> > > 37M 0dc08d372184e56c71a32b6abbd6fbdd8eedfd3d-primary.sqlite
> > > 65M b860206f9cc245151e10625c725c8c2eb0145c31-filelists.sqlite
> > > 
> > > this makes a substantial difference on slower connections and not
> > > everybody has T1.  A disk space starts to add up too.  Was this
> > > change deliberate?  Even a default gzip compression shaves between
> > > 70 and 80 percent of these.
> > 
> > What repo are you seeing these in?
> 
> Hm.  I did not pay attention and now this information is gone.
> Will look closer next time.  Of course no guarantees that I will
> get the same mirror.
> 
> > those files are bzipped in the repo and decompressed and left
> > decompressed in your local cache dir.
> 
> Do they have to be decompressed?  With one rawhide repo this is not
> that much.  Once you have few of these, plus "testing", plus some
> "debuginfo" for at least some of repos, it will be much harder not
> to notice that on your disk.

It's a fairly considerable performance hit to decompress these each time
and you do not want them just decompressed into memory. That's a big
memory hit.

-sv




From mrhodes at redhat.com  Fri Oct 17 21:34:20 2008
From: mrhodes at redhat.com (Marco Rhodes)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:34:20 -0700
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>

Hi all -

Just wanted to give a quick update on  where I am with testing.

I saw the message about needing the 4GB SD card a bit late. As someone else pointed out in another thread, Circuit City has no problem taking 
the 2 GB card back for a full refund (within 30 days). Problem is, they stopped selling the 4GB version. So I will be ordering mine online and 
will rush the shipment so that I can get in on the fun.

I did update my XO and have received my dev key. The updated interface is very nice.  No problems connecting to my WPA2 network at home either.

Thanks,

  =MR=


Marco Rhodes wrote:
> Hi all -
> 
> I received my XO late Thursday and will be gearing up to begin testing 
> starting Monday.
> During the day, I am a member of Red Hat's Support Engineering Group 
> with a emphasis on Identity Management/PKI.
> 
> When all is said and done, my 6 year old son will be a *very* happy kid. 
> He already has an older Thinkpad 570 that runs a lightweight Linux 
> distro complete with TuxPaint and the Childsplay suite. So, imagine how 
> cool the XO will be!
> 
> Looking forward to working with you all.
> 
>  =MR=
> 
> 
> 
> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks.
>>
>> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
>> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
>> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, 
>> so let's all get to know each other.
>>
>> A reminder on getting started: see...
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>>
>> --g
>>
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From ranger at opennms.org  Fri Oct 17 21:38:08 2008
From: ranger at opennms.org (Benjamin Reed)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:38:08 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081014T234840-927@post.gmane.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48EB97E0.9070103@opennms.org>
	<loom.20081014T234840-927@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <48F905C0.7030500@opennms.org>

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Benjamin Reed <ranger <at> opennms.org> writes:
>> I got mine, thanks!
> 
> Aren't you the KDE/Mac guy? ;-)
> 
> Any chance you can test the Fedora KDE spin on the XO for us? According to 
> http://katzj.livejournal.com/440811.html the Snap1 images from 
> http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ should work without special OLPC tweaking. Of 
> course, KDE might run out of RAM or something, but that's what we need testing 
> for. ;-)

I tried it, but it's pretty much unusable.

It takes a long long time to even come up, and then starting apps and
stuff is unbearably slow.

I'm waiting for Snap2 before I bother to do much, I think I'd commit
suicide before waiting for a terminal enough to swapon.  ;)

-- 
Benjamin Reed
The OpenNMS Group
http://www.opennms.org/


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From niftyfedora at niftyegg.com  Fri Oct 17 21:39:58 2008
From: niftyfedora at niftyegg.com (Nifty Fedora Mitch)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:39:58 -0700
Subject: XO: Live and /tmp
Message-ID: <20081017213958.GA3571@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>

With the  F10-Snap1-i686-Live image I see
that /tmp is tmpfs which has negative impact on
RAM.   

Does it make sense to add a modest swap space partition
to the flash SD card and build the image to test
for and use it?

In the  common LiveCD case there will be four to ten times
as much RAM as the XO has so using RAM for virtual /tmp
seems problematic to me.

Also I see:

WARNING: at arch/x86/mm/pageattr.c:782 change_page_attr_set_clr+0x5e/0x198() (Not tainted)
Modules linked in:
Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.27-1.fc10.i686 #1
 [<c06d8fc3>] ? printk+0x14/0x19
 [<c042d224>] warn_on_slowpath+0x4c/0x7a
 [<c04059cb>] ? mcount_call+0x5/0xa
 [<c04bcd8a>] ? inotify_dentry_parent_queue_event+0xe/0x88
 [<c04059cb>] ? mcount_call+0x5/0xa
 [<c047657d>] ? __free_one_page+0x17f/0x1c4
 [<c041c9c1>] change_page_attr_set_clr+0x5e/0x198
 [<c046cc28>] ? ftrace_record_ip+0x1ac/0x1c5
 [<c046cc28>] ? ftrace_record_ip+0x1ac/0x1c5
 [<c041cbae>] set_memory_rw+0x16/0x18
 [<c041b7d5>] free_init_pages+0x26/0x96
 [<c041b85b>] free_initrd_mem+0x16/0x18
 [<c08507c0>] free_initrd+0x8a/0xa4
 [<c085085a>] populate_rootfs+0x80/0xd2
 [<c040112a>] _stext+0x42/0x11a
 [<c08507da>] ? populate_rootfs+0x0/0xd2
 [<c040112a>] _stext+0x42/0x11a
 [<c08507da>] ? populate_rootfs+0x0/0xd2
 [<c0467b45>] ? register_irq_proc+0x97/0xb3
 [<c04059cb>] ? mcount_call+0x5/0xa
 [<c0467abc>] ? register_irq_proc+0xe/0xb3
 [<c0467ba3>] ? init_irq_proc+0x42/0x4f
 [<c084b3a8>] kernel_init+0x17c/0x1ca
 [<c084b22c>] ? kernel_init+0x0/0x1ca
 [<c04059b3>] kernel_thread_helper+0x7/0x10
 =======================
---[ end trace a7919e7f17c0a725 ]---




-- 
	T o m  M i t c h e l l 
	Found me a new hat, now what?



From jspaar at users.sourceforge.net  Fri Oct 17 22:09:46 2008
From: jspaar at users.sourceforge.net (Jack Spaar)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:09:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EB97E0.9070103@opennms.org>
	<loom.20081014T234840-927@post.gmane.org>
	<48F905C0.7030500@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <gdb2fa$48e$1@ger.gmane.org>

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:38:08 -0400, Benjamin Reed wrote:

[...]
> 
> I'm waiting for Snap2 before I bother to do much, I think I'd commit
> suicide before waiting for a terminal enough to swapon.  ;)
> 

I see that Snap2 Live is out right now, including the KDE version: 
	http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

--Jack




From idht4n at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 22:13:40 2008
From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:13:40 -0700
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
In-Reply-To: <f3ddc6d30810151154o24816750u6047ba28287efa7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
	<f3ddc6d30810151154o24816750u6047ba28287efa7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b79371120810171513g6ed24ab5x83f0acb1cbe7d24e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:54 AM, James Hubbard <jameshubbard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:44 PM, David L <idht4n at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have two different f10beta systems that intermittently hang.

> I have this problem as well, except it doesn't happen if I don't log
> in.  I've been using ssh from another computer and it works fine.
> When I login and lock the screen, it will freeze around the 2 hour
> mark.  I don't know that for a fact, but it seems about the right
> time.  I also believe that it will respond to pings, but I won't swear
> to it.
Update:
I can not only ping my Dell box (the one with ATI), but I can ssh
into it.  I could not kill X or the gdm login parent process of X.
I finally just did a shutdown and that worked.

I can not ping my Via box when it freezes, so I suspect I am
experiencing two different bugs on the two boxes.  :(

      David



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Fri Oct 17 22:35:35 2008
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:35:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: bodhi comment becomes anonymous
References: <loom.20081015T113350-811@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <loom.20081017T223403-601@post.gmane.org>

Mike <mike.cloaked <at> gmail.com> writes:
> I put a comment in to bodhi after testing a package - and despite putting in
> my email address the comment was listed as anonymous - has something changed
> in the way that comment entry now occurs?

Your e-mail address shows up in the update notifications the update submitter 
and the previous commenters get. It is not published on the web site, probably 
to protect you from spam.

        Kevin Kofler



From jimhayward at embarqmail.com  Sat Oct 18 00:40:14 2008
From: jimhayward at embarqmail.com (Jim Hayward)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:40:14 -0700
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
In-Reply-To: <20081017143221.GB2525@wolff.to>
References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield> <20081016135058.GA28230@wolff.to>
	<1224248937.2984.1.camel@garfield>  <20081017143221.GB2525@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <1224290414.2895.6.camel@garfield>

On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 09:32 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > Bug #?
> 
> 461801 for my r530 based card and 462420 for my r280 based card regarding
> the nomodeset option.

461801 appears to be my problem too. I booted with nomodeset, so far no
lockups. But still too soon to tell if it works around the problem.

Regards,
	Jim H



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 18 02:12:20 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:42:20 +0530
Subject: Testing Fedora 10 Snapshot 2 - Xfce Spin
Message-ID: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>

Hi,

You can find both the x86 and x86_64 torrents at

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

If you can, do download, test it and send your feedback. I am 
specifically looking for any Xfce specific issues (which can be reported 
to http://bugzilla.redhat.com) as well as comments on default choice of 
applications.

Rahul



From ranger at opennms.org  Sat Oct 18 02:30:11 2008
From: ranger at opennms.org (Benjamin Reed)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:30:11 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <gdb2fa$48e$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48EB97E0.9070103@opennms.org>	<loom.20081014T234840-927@post.gmane.org>	<48F905C0.7030500@opennms.org>
	<gdb2fa$48e$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <48F94A33.70900@opennms.org>

Jack Spaar wrote:

> I see that Snap2 Live is out right now, including the KDE version: 
> 	http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

Cool, I'll give it a shot.

There was supposed to be a new version of the script that did the swap
stuff and such, wasn't there?  Does anyone know if that's been updated?


-- 
Benjamin Reed
The OpenNMS Group
http://www.opennms.org/


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From spowd at bigpond.com  Sat Oct 18 03:31:22 2008
From: spowd at bigpond.com (greg)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:31:22 +1100
Subject: Testing Fedora 10 Snapshot 2 - Xfce Spin
In-Reply-To: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>
References: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1224300682.5455.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 07:42 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> You can find both the x86 and x86_64 torrents at
> 
> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
> 
> If you can, do download, test it and send your feedback. I am 
> specifically looking for any Xfce specific issues (which can be reported 
> to http://bugzilla.redhat.com) as well as comments on default choice of 
> applications.
> 
> Rahul
> 

what XFCE Version? 4.4.2? 
-- 
Regards Greg 

http://www.fedoraforum.org/?



From ranger at opennms.org  Sat Oct 18 03:53:36 2008
From: ranger at opennms.org (Benjamin Reed)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:53:36 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48F94A33.70900@opennms.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48EB97E0.9070103@opennms.org>	<loom.20081014T234840-927@post.gmane.org>	<48F905C0.7030500@opennms.org>	<gdb2fa$48e$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<48F94A33.70900@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <48F95DC0.8010108@opennms.org>

Benjamin Reed wrote:
> Jack Spaar wrote:
> 
>> I see that Snap2 Live is out right now, including the KDE version: 
>> 	http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
> 
> Cool, I'll give it a shot.
> 
> There was supposed to be a new version of the script that did the swap
> stuff and such, wasn't there?  Does anyone know if that's been updated?

Ah, turns out the new script does do --swap-size-mb, it's just not in
the --help.  ;)

I've got the new snap set up, and I've gotta say, it's booting about a
billion times slower than the old one.

I've had it up for about 5 minutes now, and I still don't have gdm.  I
just ctrl+alt+F2'd and I see gnome-settings-daemon, plymouth-log-viewer,
and gdm-simple-greeting at the top of `top`.

While typing this up, it finally came up, a good 10 minutes after
booting.  (Uptime says 9 minutes.)

Load is still 5.

Any idea how to go about figuring what went wrong?

I did:

  livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --force --xo --overlay-size-mb 512 \
    --swap-size-mb 512 F10-*.iso /dev/sdb1

-- 
Benjamin Reed
The OpenNMS Group
http://www.opennms.org/


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From jamundso at gmail.com  Sat Oct 18 04:01:15 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:01:15 -0500
Subject: Testing Fedora 10 Snapshot 2 - Xfce Spin
In-Reply-To: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>
References: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810172101v1f7129bt7c382ea0a2c64fdf@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You can find both the x86 and x86_64 torrents at
>
> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
>
> If you can, do download, test it and send your feedback. I am specifically
> looking for any Xfce specific issues (which can be reported to
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com) as well as comments on default choice of
> applications.

Feedback on the latter could be simplified:
First, include a link to the wiki page[1] in a post such as this.
Second, in the above wiki page, include the current packages, probably
in the section titled "Current Packages"... :-)

Seriously though, I'll take a peak if time permits. As I maintain xfce
desktops for 30+ users on centos4, I have an interest in where it goes
from here! Plus I wouldn't want my f8-xfce spin cd to get lonely...

jerry

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Xfce
-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sat Oct 18 06:09:06 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:09:06 -0500
Subject: dep failures: update after f8-kdelive -> f9 cd's
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810172309t14ded325tae82061e62fecdf1@mail.gmail.com>

Not bz'd yet as I cannot recreate until I run lengthy installs on slow laptop:
1. install f8 to hard disk from KDE live CD
2. boot/upgrade using f9 cd's
3. yum command/desktop fails due to unsolved dep for kdebindings
4. yum --skip-broken --exclude=kdebindings update then succeeds, and
of course pulls in updates-newkey. (cctrp, commoncpp2, and twinkle
were skipped)
5. yum update then proceeds normally

Oddball mirror maybe? (mirror.anl.gov)
Number 4. also pulls in 50 packages. Wasn't the idea to just have
fedora-release, then pull everything thereafter from updates-newkey?

sleepily,
jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From gilboad at gmail.com  Sat Oct 18 06:38:28 2008
From: gilboad at gmail.com (Gilboa Davara)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:38:28 +0200
Subject: Howto start Bluetooth Mouse
In-Reply-To: <48F8A48F.1040901@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>
	<1224192896.3183.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>
	<1224228553.20887.0.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localdomain>
	<48F8A48F.1040901@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1224311908.2805.0.camel@gilboa-home-dev.localdomain>

On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 10:43 -0400, Jim wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 23:08 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >   
> >> Will Woods wrote:
> >>     
> >>> On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> FC10, Latest Updates
> >>>> How do you get the Bluetooth Mouse working on FC10 ??
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> On my system, it goes something like this:
> >>>
> >>> 0) Make mouse discoverable*
> >>> 1) Click Bluetooth icon
> >>> 2) Click "Setup new device..." to start the BT Device Wizard
> >>> 3) Click "Forward"
> >>> 4) Choose the mouse from the list and click "Forward"
> >>> 5) A pairing request will be received; click "Enter PIN"
> >>> 6) Enter the PIN for your device*
> >>>
> >>> And that's it. Use your newly-connected mouse to click "Close" on the
> >>> Bluetooth wizard. 
> >>>
> >>> What happens when you try?
> >>>
> >>> -w
> >>>
> >>> *These things depend on what kind of mouse it is - for my Apple mouse
> >>> you just open the lens cover and it starts blinking, and the pin is
> >>> 0000.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Well my problem is I can't find the Bluetooth Icon.
> >> Kbluetooth4 won't execute.
> >> My bluetooth Mouse is a Logitech.
> >> I had the mouse working on FC9 but I can't get to work on FC10.
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > Can you try starting kdebluetooth from a console and posting the output?
> > What kind of bluetooth controller are you using?
> >
> > - Gilboa
> >
> >   
> The command is kbluetooth4.
> $ kbluetooth4
> KBluetooth is already running
> The mouse is a Logitech and the dongle is Linksys USBT100, and they both 
> worked perfect on FC9.
> The question is where is the bluetooth Icon ?
> 

Please try:

$ killall -9 kbluetooth4
$ kbluetooth4

.. and post the output?

- Gilboa

- Gilboa



From romal at gmx.de  Sat Oct 18 08:02:43 2008
From: romal at gmx.de (Robert M. Albrecht)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:02:43 +0200
Subject: Howto start Bluetooth Mouse
In-Reply-To: <48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48F79684.9050106@sbcglobal.net>	<1224192896.3183.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F8019B.8040209@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <48F99823.4010601@gmx.de>

Hi,

it works for me, if I am logged in. For GDM neither Bluetooth mouse nor 
Bluetooth keyboard works.

cu romal


On 17.10.2008 5:08 Uhr, Jim wrote:
> Will Woods wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
>>> FC10, Latest Updates
>>> How do you get the Bluetooth Mouse working on FC10 ??
>>
>> On my system, it goes something like this:
>>
>> 0) Make mouse discoverable*
>> 1) Click Bluetooth icon
>> 2) Click "Setup new device..." to start the BT Device Wizard
>> 3) Click "Forward"
>> 4) Choose the mouse from the list and click "Forward"
>> 5) A pairing request will be received; click "Enter PIN"
>> 6) Enter the PIN for your device*
>>
>> And that's it. Use your newly-connected mouse to click "Close" on the
>> Bluetooth wizard.
>> What happens when you try?
>>
>> -w
>>
>> *These things depend on what kind of mouse it is - for my Apple mouse
>> you just open the lens cover and it starts blinking, and the pin is
>> 0000.
>>
> Well my problem is I can't find the Bluetooth Icon.
> Kbluetooth4 won't execute.
> My bluetooth Mouse is a Logitech.
> I had the mouse working on FC9 but I can't get to work on FC10.
>



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 18 10:09:59 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:09:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081018 changes
Message-ID: <20081018100959.D71A41B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat Oct 18 06:01:17 UTC 2008

New package MegaMek
        A portable, network-enabled BattleTech engine
New package ipmitool
        Utility for IPMI control
New package system-switch-java
        A tool for changing the default Java toolset
Removed package packagekit-qt
Updated Packages:

OpenIPMI-2.0.14-3.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Jan Safranek <jsafrane at redhat.com> - 2.0.14-3
- split ipmitool to separate package
- add 'reload' functionality to init script
- add seraparate -gui subpackage


alacarte-0.11.6-4.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 0.11.6-4
- Make undoing of deletion work


anaconda-11.4.1.50-1
--------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.50-1
- Update several font package names that we were missing. (clumens)
- Only bring up the netconfig dialog if the repo requires networking.
  (clumens)
- cmdline.py: Fix a small typo in a message (rh 467338) (hansg)
- Enable CCW devices used for installation (#253075) (dcantrell)
- I don't know what trq.map.trq-map is, but let's not include it. (clumens)
- If networking is needed for yum repos, bring it up before fetching
  repodata. (clumens)
- Force DPI to 96 when launching X. (#458738) (ajax)
- Lots of translation updates.


bluez-4.14-2.fc10
-----------------

cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.2.svn1357_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1357


eclipse-3.4.1-4.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Andrew Overholt <overholt at redhat.com> 3.4.1-4
- Fix quoting bug in pdebuild.sh again.


eclipse-pydev-1.3.20-2.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 1:1.3.20-2
- Drop gcj support.
- Split mydev support to subpackage to correct dependencies.
- Drop eclipse-mylyn-ide BR - it is merged into eclipse-mylyn.


ecryptfs-utils-59-2.fc10
------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com> 59-2
- Remove duplicate doc files from rpm


filezilla-3.1.4.1-1.fc10
------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.1.4.1-1
- Update to 3.1.4.1


fmtools-1.0.2-4.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.0.2-4
- Rebuild for F-10


geos-3.0.1-1.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Balint Cristian <rezso at rdsor.ro> - 3.0.1-1
- new stable bugfix
- fix another gcc43 header


ghostscript-8.63-4.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 8.63-4
- Try out a work-around for bug #465311.


gtk2-2.14.4-1.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.14.4-1
- Update to 2.14.4


hunspell-1.2.7-4.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1.2.7-4
- make wordlist2hunspell remove blank lines


ibus-table-0.1.1.20081014-1.fc10
--------------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Peng Huang <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081014-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081014.


imsettings-0.105.0-3.fc10
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 0.105.0-3
- readd the workaround for KDE


inkscape-0.46-6.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak at v3.sk> - 0.46-6
- Fix color sliders with recent GTK (#467431)


ipsec-tools-0.7.1-5.fc10
------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 0.7.1-5
- fix CVE-2008-3652 (memory leak DoS)
- compile racoon as PIE
- another fix for teardown of the IPSEC SAs on DPD in some circumstances


java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.23.b12.fc10
----------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 1:1.6.0-0.23.b12
- Updated icedteasnapshot to nil.
- Updated release.
- Added jakarta-commons-logging requirement for visualvm.

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 1:1.6.0-0.22.b12
- Enabled building of jvisualvm tool.


logwatch-7.3.6-29.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Ivana Varekova <varekova at redhat.com> 7.3.6-29
- fix postfix script again (#462174)


mfiler3-2.1.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 2.1.1-1
- 2.1.1


mod_perl-2.0.4-7
----------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 2.0.4-7
- fix inline abuse (#459351)


nspluginwrapper-1.1.2-2.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Martin Stransky <stransky at redhat.com> 1.1.2-2
- added umask to plugin config (#463736)


nss_ldap-261-4.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com> - 261-4
- add missing local-to-network conversion on port numbers when looking up
  services (#450634)

* Mon Sep 15 18:00:00 2008 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin at redhat.com>
- return 0 (fail) instead of 1 (success) when setnetgrent() is called for
  a netgroup which doesn't actually exist or which has no members (#445972,
  upstream #374)


nted-1.4.2-1.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Hans Ulrich Niedermann <hun at n-dimensional.de> - 1.4.2-1
- Update to upstream's 1.4.2 release.


obex-data-server-0.4-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.4-1
- Update to 0.4


obexd-0.6-1.fc10
----------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.6-1
- Update to 0.6


ocsinventory-1.02-0.9.rc3.fc10
------------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Remi Collet <Fedora at famillecollet.com> 1.02-0.9.rc3
- upstream r1423 patch - migration script


openssh-5.1p1-3.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Mraz <tmraz at redhat.com> - 5.1p1-3
- fix compatibility with some servers (#466818)


perl-AnyEvent-4.300-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 4.300-1
- Update to 4.3   (rpm version : 4.300 )


perl-XML-Grove-0.46alpha-37.fc10
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Stepan Kasal <skasal at redhat.com> - 0.46alpha-37
- avoid packing DOM-ecmascript.pod twice


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.17.1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.5.0-0.2008.10.17.1
- Clear screen in details plugin when it's done
- Make plymouth-update-initrd a small wrapper around mkinitrd instead
  of the broken monstrosity it was before.

* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.5.0-0.2008.10.15.3
- Move plymouth-set-default-plugin, plymouth-update-initrd, and
  plymouth-populate-initrd to plymouth-scripts subpackage
  (the last fix didn't actually help with bug 467356)

* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.5.0-0.2008.10.15.2
- Move plymouth-set-default-plugin to -libs (might help with bug 467356)
- Fix up requires, provides and postun scripts


prelude-lml-0.9.14-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 0.9.14-1
- new upstream release fixing bz #463459


pyclutter-0.8.0-1.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Allisson Azevedo <allisson at gmail.com> 0.8.0-1
- Update to 0.8.0


python-gammu-0.27-1.fc10
------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Xavier Lamien <lxtnow at gmail.com> - 0.27-1
- Update release.


python-ply-2.5-1.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 2.5-1
- update to 2.5


selinux-policy-3.5.13-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.13-1
- Policy cleanup


slim-1.3.1-2.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Marco Pesenti Gritti <mpg at redhat.com>  1.3.1-2
- Enable pam_selinux


system-config-printer-1.0.8-7.fc10
----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1.0.8-7
- Added patch for pysmbc changes in git to prevent getdents crashing
  (bug #465975).


varnish-2.0.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Ingvar Hagelund <ingvar at linpro.no> - 2.0.1-1
- 2.0.1 released, a bugfix release. New upstream sources


Summary:
Added Packages: 3
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 40
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-basemap-0.99-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-0.11.0-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-grass-0.11.0-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-basemap-0.99-2.fc10.x86_64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	qgis-0.11.0-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-0.11.0-2.fc10.x86_64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	qgis-grass-0.11.0-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-grass-0.11.0-2.fc10.x86_64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.x86_64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	python-basemap-0.99-2.fc10.ppc requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	qgis-grass-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-grass-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	python-basemap-0.99-2.fc10.ppc64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	qgis-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	qgis-grass-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 18 11:52:11 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:22:11 +0530
Subject: Testing Fedora 10 Snapshot 2 - Xfce Spin
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810172101v1f7129bt7c382ea0a2c64fdf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810172101v1f7129bt7c382ea0a2c64fdf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F9CDEB.5020709@fedoraproject.org>

Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram
> <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> You can find both the x86 and x86_64 torrents at
>>
>> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
>>
>> If you can, do download, test it and send your feedback. I am specifically
>> looking for any Xfce specific issues (which can be reported to
>> http://bugzilla.redhat.com) as well as comments on default choice of
>> applications.
> 
> Feedback on the latter could be simplified:
> First, include a link to the wiki page[1] in a post such as this.
> Second, in the above wiki page, include the current packages, probably
> in the section titled "Current Packages"... :-)

It is a wiki. You are welcome to participate and improve the content.

Rahul



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 18 11:54:00 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:24:00 +0530
Subject: Testing Fedora 10 Snapshot 2 - Xfce Spin
In-Reply-To: <1224300682.5455.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>
	<1224300682.5455.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48F9CE58.9030700@fedoraproject.org>

greg wrote:

> what XFCE Version? 4.4.2? 

Yes, that's the latest stable upstream version.

Rahul



From msolberg at redhat.com  Sat Oct 18 14:24:15 2008
From: msolberg at redhat.com (Michael Solberg)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:24:15 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48F95DC0.8010108@opennms.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EB97E0.9070103@opennms.org>	<loom.20081014T234840-927@post.gmane.org>
	<48F905C0.7030500@opennms.org>	<gdb2fa$48e$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<48F94A33.70900@opennms.org>  <48F95DC0.8010108@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <1224339855.9079.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>


On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 23:53 -0400, Benjamin Reed wrote:
> I've got the new snap set up, and I've gotta say, it's booting about a
> billion times slower than the old one.

Ya.  This spin is phenomenally slower than the last one - for some
reason the gnome stuff is CPU bound.  Also, I'm now getting errors from
pulseaudio and nautilus.  Could gnome-settings-daemon be the culprit?
It certainly seems to be at the top of the process table.

Michael.




From rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net  Sat Oct 18 14:24:31 2008
From: rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net (Robert Nichols)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:24:31 -0500
Subject: F-10 snap2 X startup fails for Intel 845G chipset
Message-ID: <gdcrj0$qb$1@ger.gmane.org>

System is Compaq EVO D510.
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (Prescott) 2.5GHz
Memory: 2 GB
Video chipset: Intel 845G

Anaconda falls back to text mode.  Installed system fails to start
the X server.  Running startx from the text-mode login results in:

=====
X.Org X Server 1.5.2
Release Date: 10 October 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5 i686
Current Operating System: Linux omega-3b.local 2.6.27.2-23.rc1.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 17 00:07:31 EDT 2008 i686
Build Date: 16 October 2008  02:54:17AM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.5.2-5.fc10
         Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
         to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
         (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Oct 18 08:29:22 2008
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file

New driver is "intel"
(==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines)
(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
(EE) intel(0): Failed to pin front buffer: Cannot allocate memory

Fatal server error:
Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer

giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
=====

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467554 opened

Under CentOS 5.2 and Fedora 8 the X server works fine. (Never tried F-9.)

-- 
Bob Nichols     "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address.
                 Do NOT delete it.



From jimhayward at embarqmail.com  Sat Oct 18 15:06:40 2008
From: jimhayward at embarqmail.com (Jim Hayward)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:06:40 -0700
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
In-Reply-To: <20081016135058.GA28230@wolff.to>
References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield> <20081016135058.GA28230@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <1224342400.2898.5.camel@garfield>

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 08:50 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

> You might try booting with nomodeset. I have a r530 based card and while things
> are getting better I can still coerce an X lockup or kernel crash (it's hard
> to tell which is happening from the console sometimes). Things are stable
> there (but at home with an r280 card nomodeset breaks things) when I use
> nomodeset.

Looks like nomodeset is a good work around for me. So far I have not
seen any lockups since booting with it. I do see a corrupted screen, I
think right when GDM starts to load, but once it loads the display is
fine.

Regards,
	Jim H



From m.a.young at durham.ac.uk  Sat Oct 18 16:14:13 2008
From: m.a.young at durham.ac.uk (M A Young)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:14:13 +0100 (BST)
Subject: F-10 snap2 X startup fails for Intel 845G chipset
In-Reply-To: <gdcrj0$qb$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gdcrj0$qb$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810181713020.10184@vega1.dur.ac.uk>

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008, Robert Nichols wrote:

> System is Compaq EVO D510.
> CPU: Intel Pentium 4 (Prescott) 2.5GHz
> Memory: 2 GB
> Video chipset: Intel 845G
>
> Anaconda falls back to text mode.  Installed system fails to start
> the X server.  Running startx from the text-mode login results in:

It is a known bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461829
F9 should work.

 	Michael Young



From bruno at wolff.to  Sat Oct 18 16:16:36 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:16:36 -0500
Subject: f10beta frozen screen of death
In-Reply-To: <1224342400.2898.5.camel@garfield>
References: <b79371120810151144v59a05d9x6bd742cd24ac6100@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224121215.3363.12.camel@garfield>
	<20081016135058.GA28230@wolff.to>
	<1224342400.2898.5.camel@garfield>
Message-ID: <20081018161636.GB5386@wolff.to>

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 08:06:40 -0700,
  Jim Hayward <jimhayward at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Looks like nomodeset is a good work around for me. So far I have not
> seen any lockups since booting with it. I do see a corrupted screen, I
> think right when GDM starts to load, but once it loads the display is
> fine.

I think it is just displaying what was in the video memory before actually
drawing the new screen. I have been thinking about filing a security
related bug for this since it lets people see stuff from someone else's
session. In my case I see a corrupted copy of my background image after
a reboot before I have actually logged in, which shouldn't be happening.
The security risk is pretty low and modesetting has other issues, so I
have been taking a wait and see attitude on this particular bug.



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sat Oct 18 17:18:27 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:18:27 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: f9 gnome auto login questions
In-Reply-To: <48F841CA.7020801@verizon.net>
References: <48F841CA.7020801@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810181917001.13066@sandbox.cz>

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Skunk Worx wrote:

> This is a post I made yesterday to the fedora-list. There have been no 
> replies yet. I'm hoping someone here can give me a clue on how to disable 
> gnome "User Switching" or offer opinions on the following. The behavior is a 
> little unsettling.
>
> TIA,
> John
>

I'd consider this as bug with security implications too.. to me it seems 
as kind of serious problem worth to report into bugzilla.

Adam Pribyl



From rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net  Sat Oct 18 17:44:15 2008
From: rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net (Robert Nichols)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:44:15 -0500
Subject: F-10 snap2 X server fails to find keyboard or mouse
Message-ID: <gdd79g$5jf$1@ger.gmane.org>

Trying F-10 snap2 on my "workhorse" machine:
Motherboard: Asus P4S800
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3 GHz

Firstboot tries to run in graphical mode at the appropriate display
resolution (1280x1024), but the X server fails to find either the
AT keyboard or PS/2 mouse.  That leaves only the power switch and
reset button as the only functional inputs.  When I look at
firstbootX.log I see:

(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
         If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput.

I don't know enough about HAL to have any clue about how to proceed.

-- 
Bob Nichols     "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address.
                 Do NOT delete it.



From rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net  Sat Oct 18 18:23:12 2008
From: rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net (Robert Nichols)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:23:12 -0500
Subject: F-10 snap2 X server fails to find keyboard or mouse
In-Reply-To: <gdd79g$5jf$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gdd79g$5jf$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gdd9ig$cc7$1@ger.gmane.org>

Robert Nichols wrote:
> Trying F-10 snap2 on my "workhorse" machine:
> Motherboard: Asus P4S800
> CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3 GHz
> 
> Firstboot tries to run in graphical mode at the appropriate display
> resolution (1280x1024), but the X server fails to find either the
> AT keyboard or PS/2 mouse.  That leaves only the power switch and
> reset button as the only functional inputs.  When I look at
> firstbootX.log I see:
> 
> (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
> (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
> (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
>         If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable 
> AllowEmptyInput.
> 
> I don't know enough about HAL to have any clue about how to proceed.

FWIW, the F-10 kernel does detect the keyboard and mouse just fine:

kernel: PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f13:PS2M] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
kernel: serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
kernel: serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
kernel: mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
kernel: input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input3

-- 
Bob Nichols     "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address.
                 Do NOT delete it.



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sat Oct 18 18:23:25 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:23:25 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1224169461.7707.164.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
	<1224169461.7707.164.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810182015230.20888@sandbox.cz>

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Adam Jackson wrote:

> Since it is, in general, impossible to know how long service startup
> will take, we lie.  We record the time it took to boot last time and run
> the progress bar against that.  There's a detail here which is that you
> can't know that until you've mounted /, so we estimate something really
> long initially and then once we load the time off the disk we lerp
> between the estimate and the recorded time.

I think this is a good way. There are some drawback we already discussed 
in bug #467100 - e.g. live CD.

> We also cheat in that the growth of the progress bar is intentionally
> nonlinear, growing faster early and then slowing down towards the end.
> This fools your brain into thinking it's going faster than it really is.
> Usually the math works out such that you'll see the bar fully complete
> for a second or two before switching to gdm or text console.  But,
> sometimes much longer, if this boot happens to take ten seconds longer
> than last one then there's just not much we can do about that.

I think this is also a good approach.

Today I however found one more problem with text based plymouth - this is 
when the system boot fails - e.g. because it is not able to mount root 
partition, then progress bar continues silently until the end and there 
is no way how to found what got wrong. Yes there is one - reboot and 
remove rhgb option in grub shell.. should I mention that when users asks 
me, that his Fedora is not booting, my first question is - where does the 
boot stop? With plymouth his answer will be useless, not to mention he is 
not able to find any reasonable help based on symptoms..

So there is still a way to go with plymouth..

>
> - ajax
>

Adam Pribyl



From skunkworx at verizon.net  Sat Oct 18 18:45:49 2008
From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:45:49 -0700
Subject: f9 gnome auto login questions
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810181917001.13066@sandbox.cz>
References: <48F841CA.7020801@verizon.net>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810181917001.13066@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <48FA2EDD.5060303@verizon.net>

Adam Pribyl wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Skunk Worx wrote:
> 
>> This is a post I made yesterday to the fedora-list. There have been no 
>> replies yet. I'm hoping someone here can give me a clue on how to 
>> disable gnome "User Switching" or offer opinions on the following. The 
>> behavior is a little unsettling.
>>
>> TIA,
>> John
>>
> 
> I'd consider this as bug with security implications too.. to me it seems 
> as kind of serious problem worth to report into bugzilla.
> 
> Adam Pribyl
> 

Thanks for the suggestion, Adam...bz # 467569

---
John



From skunkworx at verizon.net  Sat Oct 18 18:59:02 2008
From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:59:02 -0700
Subject: f9 gnome auto login questions
In-Reply-To: <48FA2EDD.5060303@verizon.net>
References: <48F841CA.7020801@verizon.net>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810181917001.13066@sandbox.cz>
	<48FA2EDD.5060303@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <48FA31F6.3060302@verizon.net>

Skunk Worx wrote:
> Adam Pribyl wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Skunk Worx wrote:
>>
>>> This is a post I made yesterday to the fedora-list. There have been 
>>> no replies yet. I'm hoping someone here can give me a clue on how to 
>>> disable gnome "User Switching" or offer opinions on the following. 
>>> The behavior is a little unsettling.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> John
>>>
>>
>> I'd consider this as bug with security implications too.. to me it 
>> seems as kind of serious problem worth to report into bugzilla.
>>
>> Adam Pribyl
>>
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion, Adam...bz # 467569
> 
> ---
> John
> 

Note : renaming /usr/bin/gdmflexiserver, as mentioned in a similar 
Ubuntu bug report (referenced in the bz), appears to disable the "Switch 
User" button.

---
John



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Sat Oct 18 19:41:22 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (kwhiskerz)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:41:22 -0600
Subject: F-10 snap2 X server fails to find keyboard or mouse
References: <gdd79g$5jf$1@ger.gmane.org> <gdd9ig$cc7$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gdde53$p4g$1@ger.gmane.org>

Robert Nichols wrote some things.

I replied:

I haven't got a clue what snap2 is and I am not qualified to answer your question. However, with keyboard/mouse problems due to evdev, I have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file that contains only this (it solved my similar problems entirely):

Section "ServerFlags"
 Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
EndSection

Also, I would advise not to install the latest xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.0.7-1, as it is bad (causes all input to be repeated in triplicate, making keyboard input impossible). If you need to, you can revert to 2.0.6-2 here:

http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-drv-evdev/

You will need to reboot into level 3 or something and install with rpm -Uvh --oldpackage xorg-x11....

Hope this helps.




From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sat Oct 18 19:44:01 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:44:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: nvidia strangeness
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810171144n623e1904l11ceb048f1131f2e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810171144n623e1904l11ceb048f1131f2e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810182143010.1352@sandbox.cz>

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Valent Turkovic wrote:

> After last update and reboot I got really disturbed video.
>
> I have Nvidia 6100go on HP tx1000 laptop using opensource nv driver running
> fedora 10 (rawhide)
>
> I can't even look what I'm typing so sorry for the typos...
>
> Look how my fedora desktop looks after last update:
> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/DSC07584.JPG
> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/DSC07583.JPG
> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/DSC07582.JPG
> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/DSC07581.JPG
>
> ...
>
> Bad, bad, bad...

I remember this already happend some time ago... maybe some regression, 
but do not remember what was the cause/fix.

Adam Pribyl



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sat Oct 18 19:51:07 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:51:07 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: screen full of garbage on Xorg start
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810182145260.1352@sandbox.cz>

Fedora 10 tries now to have a nice boot with plymouth and KMS, 
however at least for me on nvidia and intel, when Xorg is started, I 
either see screen full of garbage, or old video memory content, until GDM 
starts with this nice fade in effect. But few seconds with this 
garbage in between plymouth and and gdm start is really disturbing..

How to avoid it?

Adam Pribyl



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Sat Oct 18 21:15:28 2008
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:15:28 -0500
Subject: dep failures: update after f8-kdelive -> f9 cd's
References: <6d06ce20810172309t14ded325tae82061e62fecdf1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gddjkl$96a$2@ger.gmane.org>

Jerry Amundson wrote:

> Not bz'd yet as I cannot recreate until I run lengthy installs on slow
> laptop: 1. install f8 to hard disk from KDE live CD
> 2. boot/upgrade using f9 cd's
> 3. yum command/desktop fails due to unsolved dep for kdebindings

Yes, I believe a newer yum is/was required to resolve that issue, if you first
yum update yum
I'd venture further updates would proceed more smoothly.

-- Rex



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Sat Oct 18 22:32:53 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:02:53 +0530
Subject: F10-Snapshot-X86_64-KDE
In-Reply-To: <78323d480810120844y7461c7adheadf490e9f27c22a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480810120844y7461c7adheadf490e9f27c22a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78323d480810181532l499a778do9d7590ca1b85303a@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Mani A <a.mani.cms at gmail.com> wrote:

I am replying to my mail.
> I tried the latest one (released yesterday).

and snapshot-2 too

>
> TEST-1, 2
>
> System: AMD dual core Athlon ATI690G
> RAM: 4 GB (Dual Channel DDR2)
> Graphics: Radeon X1200 (integrated) &  Card Radeon 2400
> Hard Disk: SATA Seagate   AHCI
>
> Extra Boot Time Kernel Parameters: NONE
>
> Messages:
> Did see things like
> don't' know how to make device "loop2"
> don't' know how to make device "loop3"
>

All other problems seem to be fixed in snapshot-2, except for
automatic detection of display resolution.



> Otherwise starts lots of  services by default...ALL "[OK]"
>
>
> ISSUES:
>
> 1. Does not load the correct driver module (radeon) for the IG card
> and also the other one.
> 2. Monitor resolution (Philips 17inch) not correctly detected ...
> apparently due to Belkins KVM
>
> resolution was 640x..?
> 3. kde seems to freeze after a minute or so. Cannot be rectified by
> restarting the x-server. Opening a terminal (from keyboard) results in
> a black screen
>
> - ---------------
> TEST-3
>
> Boot to run level 3
> modprobe radeon
> Startx
> SAME ISSUES


Best

A. Mani


-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From michal at harddata.com  Sat Oct 18 22:54:38 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:54:38 -0600
Subject: nvidia strangeness
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810182143010.1352@sandbox.cz>
References: <64b14b300810171144n623e1904l11ceb048f1131f2e@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810182143010.1352@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <20081018225438.GB10172@mail.harddata.com>

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 09:44:01PM +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> 
> >After last update and reboot I got really disturbed video.
....
> >Bad, bad, bad...
> 
> I remember this already happend some time ago... maybe some regression, 
> but do not remember what was the cause/fix.

Distorted/misrendered fonts, this time with Radeon instead of
Nvidia, are amply illustrated in pictures attached to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466369

Some font settings tend to minimize the damage; OTOH I can make that
really bad at will.  Fedora 8 or 9, _on the same hardware_, does not
show that problem.

   Michal



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 00:57:59 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:27:59 +0530
Subject: nvidia strangeness
In-Reply-To: <20081018225438.GB10172@mail.harddata.com>
References: <64b14b300810171144n623e1904l11ceb048f1131f2e@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810182143010.1352@sandbox.cz>
	<20081018225438.GB10172@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <78323d480810181757o324fc0feg4ef12397a9842e9@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Michal Jaegermann <michal at harddata.com> wrote:
>
> Distorted/misrendered fonts, this time with Radeon instead of
> Nvidia, are amply illustrated in pictures attached to
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466369

Could not see any of that with
driver radeon
X86_64 snapshot2
cards: radeon hd2400, 1200

>
> Some font settings tend to minimize the damage; OTOH I can make that
> really bad at will.  Fedora 8 or 9, _on the same hardware_, does not
> show that problem.
>

Best

A. Mani


-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From kernel.zeng at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 01:43:35 2008
From: kernel.zeng at gmail.com (Wheelz)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:43:35 +0800
Subject: X will not start if press ESC at boot process
Message-ID: <20081019014335.GA4823@Nalanda.localdomain>

Hi,

My boot parameter is "rhgb vga=0x318 quiet", my video card is NVIDIA
Quadro NVS 140M(using driver from rpmfusion, akmod-nvidia), 
system is fedora 10 rawhide updated to Oct. 18,

During the boot process, after the "fedora" flash showed up, just wait 
two or three seconds, then press ESC, the X will not start up.
if I don't press ESC during the boot, the X can start normally.


And another strange thing, if I disable NVIDIA driver(by uninstall rpms), 
and use the nv driver. whatever I input by keyboard will also be given to
the system console, including the password I entered in gdm. If I press 
Ctrl+C in a gnome terminal?the X will restart.



From poelstra at redhat.com  Sun Oct 19 02:38:59 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:38:59 -0700
Subject: EPEL or Fedora product?
Message-ID: <48FA9DC3.1070602@redhat.com>

Working on some bug triage... should bugs like this be open against 
"Fedora EPEL" instead of "Fedora" since it is a "do this for EPEL" type 
bug... not Fedora?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454918

thanks,
John



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 02:41:52 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:41:52 -0400
Subject: EPEL or Fedora product?
In-Reply-To: <48FA9DC3.1070602@redhat.com>
References: <48FA9DC3.1070602@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224384112.13861.257.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 19:38 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> Working on some bug triage... should bugs like this be open against 
> "Fedora EPEL" instead of "Fedora" since it is a "do this for EPEL" type 
> bug... not Fedora?
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454918

It's not *against* EPEL, so I'm inclined to say no.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

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From poelstra at redhat.com  Sun Oct 19 03:06:24 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:06:24 -0700
Subject: EPEL or Fedora product?
In-Reply-To: <1224384112.13861.257.camel@ignacio.lan>
References: <48FA9DC3.1070602@redhat.com>
	<1224384112.13861.257.camel@ignacio.lan>
Message-ID: <48FAA430.7030609@redhat.com>

Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams said the following on 10/18/2008 07:41 PM Pacific 
Time:
> On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 19:38 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
>> Working on some bug triage... should bugs like this be open against 
>> "Fedora EPEL" instead of "Fedora" since it is a "do this for EPEL" type 
>> bug... not Fedora?
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454918
> 
> It's not *against* EPEL, so I'm inclined to say no.
> 
> 

I read the bug as "please build these packages in EPEL"... so why 
wouldn't that be an EPEL bug?

John



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 03:08:25 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:08:25 -0500
Subject: EPEL or Fedora product?
In-Reply-To: <1224384112.13861.257.camel@ignacio.lan>
References: <48FA9DC3.1070602@redhat.com>
	<1224384112.13861.257.camel@ignacio.lan>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810182008g42a118det33abbb1c0696749a@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/18/08, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 19:38 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
>> Working on some bug triage... should bugs like this be open against
>> "Fedora EPEL" instead of "Fedora" since it is a "do this for EPEL" type
>> bug... not Fedora?
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454918
>
> It's not *against* EPEL, so I'm inclined to say no.

Are you sure that's what you want to say about this?

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From dennis at ausil.us  Sun Oct 19 03:39:54 2008
From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:39:54 -0500
Subject: EPEL or Fedora product?
In-Reply-To: <48FAA430.7030609@redhat.com>
References: <48FA9DC3.1070602@redhat.com>
	<1224384112.13861.257.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<48FAA430.7030609@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200810182240.00324.dennis@ausil.us>

On Saturday 18 October 2008 10:06:24 pm John Poelstra wrote:
> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams said the following on 10/18/2008 07:41 PM Pacific
>
> Time:
> > On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 19:38 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> >> Working on some bug triage... should bugs like this be open against
> >> "Fedora EPEL" instead of "Fedora" since it is a "do this for EPEL" type
> >> bug... not Fedora?
> >>
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454918
> >
> > It's not *against* EPEL, so I'm inclined to say no.
>
> I read the bug as "please build these packages in EPEL"... so why
> wouldn't that be an EPEL bug?
it would only not be an EPEL bug if it doesnt exist in EPEL currently.  if its 
not in EPEL there is no Feodra EPEL component in bugzilla.  and so you can 
only use fedora.  otherwise its an epel bug and should be there.

Dennis

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From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 03:46:39 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:46:39 -0400
Subject: EPEL or Fedora product?
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810182008g42a118det33abbb1c0696749a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48FA9DC3.1070602@redhat.com>
	<1224384112.13861.257.camel@ignacio.lan>
	<6d06ce20810182008g42a118det33abbb1c0696749a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224387999.13861.260.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 22:08 -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On 10/18/08, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 19:38 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> >> Working on some bug triage... should bugs like this be open against
> >> "Fedora EPEL" instead of "Fedora" since it is a "do this for EPEL" type
> >> bug... not Fedora?
> >>
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454918
> >
> > It's not *against* EPEL, so I'm inclined to say no.
> 
> Are you sure that's what you want to say about this?

After reviewing the bug and looking in the repo I see that this is not a
"please build X in EPEL" bug, so I'm sure that that's not what I want to
say about this.

Disregard my original statement.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

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From cra at WPI.EDU  Sun Oct 19 06:49:43 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:49:43 -0400
Subject: Snap2 KDE desktop crashes, konqueror can't resolve names
Message-ID: <20081019064943.GA20559@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

I'm testing the F10-Snap2-x86_64-Live-KDE image and have encountered 
these two problems so far:

1. After booting up the live image without any network cable plugged 
in, I started Web Browser (konqueror).  This failed with a DNS error 
page of course since I had no network connection yet. I plugged my 
Ethernet cable in and NetworkManager got an address without problems.  
>From konsole I was able to ping and ssh to IP addresses and DNS names 
without problems.  However, the open web browser still reported DNS 
errors on every page I tried.  Even closing konqueror and reopening it 
again didn't clear the error.

2. Shortly after the above tests, I was typing in the terminal and the 
entire desktop session crashed and sent me back to the KDM login.

I rebooted and verified that Konqueror worked correctly if I left the 
network cable plugged in before logging in and launching the Web 
Browser.  However, the desktop crashed again in short order.



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 09:03:46 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:03:46 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810170535q677abcc9j42e0b3fef2b4eba8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810170439s1e70449bjff4ba7b7562911a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<585527.7568.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4c37b6af0810170534kc81bb8eib27a8c24860256de@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810170535q677abcc9j42e0b3fef2b4eba8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810190203w3af6f6e1k8d5e1793ec5eb5e5@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/17 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/17 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/17 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>:
>>> --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Sound issues
>>>> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>>>> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:39 AM
>>>> 2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> > 2008/10/16 Christopher D. Stover
>>>> <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If
>>>> you do what I said and
>>>> >> type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does
>>>> that fix the problem and
>>>> >> you're able to listen to things again?
>>>> I'm honestly not sure where to file
>>>> >> the problem either, but I feel it's probably a
>>>> pulseaudio problem.  I'm not
>>>> >> really sure what you meant by "...problem can
>>>> arise from the fact that
>>>> >> pulseaudio is in rawhide..."
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Chris
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > as results are very different from kernel, I think
>>>> that kernel is the
>>>> > problem: after some trials I Have reverted to
>>>> 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
>>>> > Rhytmbox has played for an hour then crashed...VLC
>>>> refuses to play
>>>> > same stream.
>>>> > Just to clarify my meaning, I am not satisfied with
>>>> multimedia (and
>>>> > things have not improved) in rawhide, sometimes I
>>>> think the problem is
>>>> > that you have pulseaudio, Rhythmbox from rawhide,
>>>> codecs from other
>>>> > parts, and there is no clear technical responsibility
>>>> of which package
>>>> > is involved, at least for me that I am a very
>>>> low-level tester: from
>>>> > the tester's point of view, it is difficult to
>>>> file a bug (against
>>>> > what??)....also problem is well known.
>>>> > And when you show a Fedora system to a friend of
>>>> yours, multimedia is
>>>> > important to check the quality of any OS (in many case
>>>> more than
>>>> > network management and so on...)
>>>> > --
>>>> > Antonio Montagnani
>>>> > Skype : antoniomontag
>>>> >
>>>> kernel 2.6.27.2-23.rc1.fc10.i686 is bad as many other
>>>> recent kernel,
>>>> with reference to multimedia.....my system is fully updated
>>>> with
>>>> reference also to RPMFusion.
>>>> VLC plays bad, Rhythmbox is suffering from many
>>>> interruptions....
>>>>
>>>> And still Multimedia is becoming important in the choice of
>>>> an OP,
>>>> shall I revert to Bill after eight years of RH/Fedora????
>>>> and rawhide
>>>> is not as raw as someone thinks, official release is not
>>>> very
>>>> far......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> If you compile say mplayer from source does it make a difference?
>>> I don't appear to have trouble playing multimedia files.  I have xine and mplayer compiled from source.  Don't give up on Fedora yet, report bugs complain and complain and if this does not make a difference(Nobody listens, answers to your bug reports), then you can go to Bill's software(OS).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
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>>> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
>>> http://mail.yahoo.com
>>>
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>>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>>> To unsubscribe:
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>
>>
>> i have reverted to 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 and issues have
>> disappeared (not sure, but at least Rhythmbox plays fine..for the time
>> being): I am reverting also to the laptop to same kernel.....I will
>> not file any other bug !!! sorry..as you know situation on multimedia
>> is poor(sound speed is well known, isn't it?) , especially if you have
>> an Intel chips, as I have both on desktop and laptop.
>> What is wrong between 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10 and following kernels is
>> out of my skill, I am an humble tester(FHC=Fedora humble tester), not
>> a IT guru... :-(.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>
> and also VLC seems to be playing fine....
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

grabbed latest kernel from koij and always same issues!!!!
2.6.27.3-27.rc1.fc10.i686.
Music is too fast so buffer becomes empty in Rhythmbox (radio streaming).
Bug already filed.
I wonder when this problem will be solved.....for the time being at
the moment I will revert to older kernels, then I will see......
For your reference see
http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_2dabf29b-bd26-4825-b7ed-ac1db85fec24

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From jonrob at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 19 09:04:12 2008
From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:04:12 +0100
Subject: Yum upgrade vs preupgrade - readahead etc
Message-ID: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

After yum upgrading my way to F10 from F9, the experience as already
reported was pretty painless. The only problem is that some packages,
key to Fedora 10 features, do not get picked up with the update. e.g.
readahead, and grub doesn't seem to have been updated either.

A few questions:

* Would the same problem occur if I'd used preupgrade?
* How can identify missing packages/settings and add them to my
current Fedora installation?
* Should this be considered a bug?

Kindly,

Jon



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 19 10:21:28 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:21:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081019 changes
Message-ID: <20081019102128.9199A1F823B@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun Oct 19 06:01:11 UTC 2008

New package perl-qooxdoo-compat
        Perl backend for Qooxdoo
New package teamgit
        Visual tool for Git
Updated Packages:

dietlibc-0.31-6.20081017.fc10
-----------------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Enrico Scholz <enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> - 0.31-6.20081017
- updated to 20081017 CVS snapshot
- relaxed some sanity checks on architecture not supported by Fedora
  and use '#warning' instead of '#error'
- fixed ARM dynlib code

* Wed Jul 16 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.31-6.20080517
- fix license tag


eclipse-pydev-1.3.22-1.fc10
---------------------------

eclipse-quickrex-3.5.0-9.fc10
-----------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Alphonse Van Assche <alcapcom at fedoraproject.org> 3.5.0-9
- Remove gcj compilation
- Add %{install_loc}


eclipse-rpm-editor-0.4.0-5.fc10
-------------------------------
* Sat Oct 11 18:00:00 2008 Alphonse Van Assche <alcapcom at fedoraproject.org> 0.4.0-5
- Fix specfile

* Tue Oct  7 18:00:00 2008 Alphonse Van Assche <alcapcom at fedoraproject.org> 0.4.0-4
- Remove gcj compilation
- Add %{install_loc}


gdesklets-goodweather-0.31-1.fc10
---------------------------------
* Sat Aug  2 18:00:00 2008 Tyler Owen <tyler.l.owen at gmail.com> - 0.31-1
- Fixed license tag to specify a version
- Upgrade to 08-0.31

* Thu Nov 15 17:00:00 2007 Tyler Owen <tyler.l.owen at gmail.com> - 0.3-3
- Updated License to match new Fedora scheme
- Updated files section


gnash-0.8.4-2.fc10
------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 0.8.4-1
- update to 0.8.4

* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.8.4-2
- update KDE 4 patch (undo the backporting and use original patch)
- patch to make autoreconf work
- add missing BR giflib-devel, gettext
- omit unrecognized --with-qtdir


gnome-chemistry-utils-0.9.93-1.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Julian Sikorski <belegdol[at]gmail[dot]com> - 0.9.93-1
- Updated to 0.9.93


hunspell-1.2.7-5.fc10
---------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1.2.7-5
- sort as per "C" locale


jd-2.0.3-0.1.svn2402_trunk.fc10
-------------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 2402


kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-6.fc10
------------------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-6
- reenable panel-autohide-fix-flicker patch
- backport revision 866998 to fix the CPU consumption problem (kde#172549)
- backport panelview.cpp coordinate fixes (revisions 869882, 869925, 870041)
- backport revision 871058 (request config sync when panel controller goes away)


kernel-2.6.27.3-27.rc1.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.3-27.rc1
- Linux 2.6.27.3-rc1
  Dropped patches:
    linux-2.6.27-xfs-remount-fix.patch

* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.2-26.rc1
- Fix resume on x86_64 UP systems with SMP kernel.

* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.2-25.rc1
- DRM: fix ioctl security issue (CVE-2008-3831).

* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 2.6.27.2-24.rc1
- Fix suspend on newer Vaios


krusader-2.0.0-0.2.beta1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Marcin Garski <mgarski[AT]post.pl> 2.0.0-0.2.beta1
- Incorporate minor bug fixes from Krusader's SVN


mono-2.0-11.1.fc10
------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-11.1
- fix the last fix...


mt-daapd-0.2.4.2-4.fc10
-----------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 W. Michael Petullo <mike[at]flyn.org> - 0.2.4.2-4
- Change initscript priority to 98, so that mt-daapd starts after avahi.


nfs-utils-1.1.4-1.fc10
----------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Steve Dickson <steved at redhat.com> 1.1.4-1
- Updated to latest upstream version: 1.1.4


nfs-utils-lib-1.1.4-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Steve Dickson <steved at redhat.com> 1.1.4-1
- Fixed a bad assumtion in nss code.


phpMyAdmin-3.0.0-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 3.0.0-1
- Upstream released 3.0.0


python-tidy-0.2-4.fc10
----------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Terje Rosten <terjeros at phys.ntnu.no> - 0.2-4
- Not 64 bits clean, #467246, thanks to Jose Pedro Oliveira
  for report and patch.


rpm-4.6.0-0.rc1.2
-----------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Panu Matilainen <pmatilai at redhat.com>
- permit tab as macro argument separator (#467567)


shorewall-4.2.0-1.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct 12 18:00:00 2008 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 4.2.0-1
- Update to version 4.2.0
- New sysv init files which are no longer maintained as patches, but as a 
  Fedora specific file


smb4k-0.10.1-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Marcin Garski <mgarski[AT]post.pl> 0.10.1-1
- Update to 0.10.1


util-vserver-0.30.215-5.fc10
----------------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Enrico Scholz <enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> - 0.30.215-5
- fixed build with recent rpm

* Mon Sep  8 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.30.215-4
- fix license tag

* Sat Apr 19 18:00:00 2008 Enrico Scholz <enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> - 0.30.215-3
- reenabled %check


wxsvg-1.0-0.9.b11.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Stewart Adam <s.adam at diffingo.com> - 1.0-0.9.b11
- Update to 1.0b11


Summary:
Added Packages: 2
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 23
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----------------------------------------------------------
	python-basemap-0.99-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
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	qgis-grass-0.11.0-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



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----------------------------------------------------------
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	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.i386 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.x86_64 requires libgeos-3.0.0.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



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----------------------------------------------------------
	python-basemap-0.99-2.fc10.ppc requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
	qgis-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
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	qgis-grass-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
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	qgis-python-0.11.0-2.fc10.ppc requires libgeos-3.0.0.so
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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



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----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 11:33:00 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:33:00 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810190203w3af6f6e1k8d5e1793ec5eb5e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810170439s1e70449bjff4ba7b7562911a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<585527.7568.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4c37b6af0810170534kc81bb8eib27a8c24860256de@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810170535q677abcc9j42e0b3fef2b4eba8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810190203w3af6f6e1k8d5e1793ec5eb5e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810190433v1fd8f440w7fc15dda22160b76@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/19 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/17 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/17 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2008/10/17 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>:
>>>> --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound issues
>>>>> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>>>>> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:39 AM
>>>>> 2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>> > 2008/10/16 Christopher D. Stover
>>>>> <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If
>>>>> you do what I said and
>>>>> >> type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does
>>>>> that fix the problem and
>>>>> >> you're able to listen to things again?
>>>>> I'm honestly not sure where to file
>>>>> >> the problem either, but I feel it's probably a
>>>>> pulseaudio problem.  I'm not
>>>>> >> really sure what you meant by "...problem can
>>>>> arise from the fact that
>>>>> >> pulseaudio is in rawhide..."
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Chris
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > as results are very different from kernel, I think
>>>>> that kernel is the
>>>>> > problem: after some trials I Have reverted to
>>>>> 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
>>>>> > Rhytmbox has played for an hour then crashed...VLC
>>>>> refuses to play
>>>>> > same stream.
>>>>> > Just to clarify my meaning, I am not satisfied with
>>>>> multimedia (and
>>>>> > things have not improved) in rawhide, sometimes I
>>>>> think the problem is
>>>>> > that you have pulseaudio, Rhythmbox from rawhide,
>>>>> codecs from other
>>>>> > parts, and there is no clear technical responsibility
>>>>> of which package
>>>>> > is involved, at least for me that I am a very
>>>>> low-level tester: from
>>>>> > the tester's point of view, it is difficult to
>>>>> file a bug (against
>>>>> > what??)....also problem is well known.
>>>>> > And when you show a Fedora system to a friend of
>>>>> yours, multimedia is
>>>>> > important to check the quality of any OS (in many case
>>>>> more than
>>>>> > network management and so on...)
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Antonio Montagnani
>>>>> > Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>> >
>>>>> kernel 2.6.27.2-23.rc1.fc10.i686 is bad as many other
>>>>> recent kernel,
>>>>> with reference to multimedia.....my system is fully updated
>>>>> with
>>>>> reference also to RPMFusion.
>>>>> VLC plays bad, Rhythmbox is suffering from many
>>>>> interruptions....
>>>>>
>>>>> And still Multimedia is becoming important in the choice of
>>>>> an OP,
>>>>> shall I revert to Bill after eight years of RH/Fedora????
>>>>> and rawhide
>>>>> is not as raw as someone thinks, official release is not
>>>>> very
>>>>> far......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> If you compile say mplayer from source does it make a difference?
>>>> I don't appear to have trouble playing multimedia files.  I have xine and mplayer compiled from source.  Don't give up on Fedora yet, report bugs complain and complain and if this does not make a difference(Nobody listens, answers to your bug reports), then you can go to Bill's software(OS).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________
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>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>>>
>>>
>>> i have reverted to 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 and issues have
>>> disappeared (not sure, but at least Rhythmbox plays fine..for the time
>>> being): I am reverting also to the laptop to same kernel.....I will
>>> not file any other bug !!! sorry..as you know situation on multimedia
>>> is poor(sound speed is well known, isn't it?) , especially if you have
>>> an Intel chips, as I have both on desktop and laptop.
>>> What is wrong between 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10 and following kernels is
>>> out of my skill, I am an humble tester(FHC=Fedora humble tester), not
>>> a IT guru... :-(.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>
>>
>> and also VLC seems to be playing fine....
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>
> grabbed latest kernel from koij and always same issues!!!!
> 2.6.27.3-27.rc1.fc10.i686.
> Music is too fast so buffer becomes empty in Rhythmbox (radio streaming).
> Bug already filed.
> I wonder when this problem will be solved.....for the time being at
> the moment I will revert to older kernels, then I will see......
> For your reference see
> http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_2dabf29b-bd26-4825-b7ed-ac1db85fec24
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
Can somebody explain what is going on?? I run a test with pulseaudio
-vvv and started Rhythmbox: when I got the buffer underrun in hythmbox
I stopped the test....and this is the output...:If you look at the end
of output you will see some rewinds and memblocks.Is this the
problem???


pulseaudio -k
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.

[antonio at Casa ~]$ pulseaudio -vvv
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
D: main.c: Started as real root: no, suid root: yes
I: main.c: PolicyKit grants us acquire-high-priority privilege.
I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
I: core-util.c: Successfully gained nice level -11.
I: main.c: Giving up CAP_NICE
D: main.c: Can realtime: no, can high-priority: no
I: main.c: This is PulseAudio 0.9.13
D: main.c: Compilation host: i386-redhat-linux-gnu
D: main.c: Compilation CFLAGS: -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -Wall -W -Wextra -pedantic -pipe
-Wno-long-long -Wvla -Wno-overlength-strings -Wconversion -Wundef
-Wformat -Wlogical-op -Wpacked -Wformat-security
-Wmissing-include-dirs -Wformat-nonliteral -Wold-style-definition
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wfloat-equal -Wmissing-declarations
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wredundant-decls
-Wmissing-noreturn -Wshadow -Wendif-labels -Wpointer-arith
-Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Wno-unused-parameter -ffast-math
D: main.c: Running on host: Linux i686 2.6.27.3-27.rc1.fc10.i686 #1
SMP Sat Oct 18 20:35:56 EDT 2008
I: main.c: Page size is 4096 bytes
D: main.c: Compiled with Valgrind support: no
D: main.c: Running in valgrind mode: no
D: main.c: Optimized build: yes
I: main.c: Machine ID is 38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9.
I: main.c: Using runtime directory
/home/antonio/.pulse/38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9:runtime.
I: main.c: Using state directory /home/antonio/.pulse.
I: main.c: Running in system mode: no
I: main.c: Fresh high-resolution timers available! Bon appetit!
D: memblock.c: Using shared memory pool with 1024 slots of size 64,0
KiB each, total size is 64,0 MiB
D: cli-command.c: Checking for existance of
'/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-hal-detect.so': success
I: module-hal-detect.c: Trying capability alsa
D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_timer
D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_sequencer
D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_4
D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_1
D: module-hal-detect.c: Loading module-alsa-sink with arguments
'device_id=0 sink_name=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0
tsched=1'
D: alsa-util.c: Trying front:0...
D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Successfully opened device front:0.
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Successfully enabled mmap() mode.
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Successfully enabled timer-based scheduling mode.
I: (alsa-lib)control.c: Invalid CTL front:0
I: alsa-util.c: Unable to attach to mixer front:0: No such file or directory
I: alsa-util.c: Successfully attached to mixer 'hw:0'
I: alsa-util.c: Using mixer control "Master".
I: sink.c: Created sink 0
"alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0" with sample
spec s16le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
I: source.c: Created source 0
"alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0.monitor" with
sample spec s16le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Using 1 fragments of size 65536 bytes, buffer
time is 371,52ms
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Time scheduling watermark is 20,00ms
D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=62005
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Volume ranges from 0 to 31.
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Volume ranges from -46,50 dB to 0,00 dB.
I: alsa-util.c: All 2 channels can be mapped to mixer channels.
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Using hardware volume control. Hardware dB
scale supported.
D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump():
D: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel ICH5' device 0 subdevice 0
D: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
D: alsa-util.c:   stream       : PLAYBACK
D: alsa-util.c:   access       : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
D: alsa-util.c:   format       : S16_LE
D: alsa-util.c:   subformat    : STD
D: alsa-util.c:   channels     : 2
D: alsa-util.c:   rate         : 44100
D: alsa-util.c:   exact rate   : 44100 (44100/1)
D: alsa-util.c:   msbits       : 16
D: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 16384
D: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 16384
D: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 371519
D: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : NONE
D: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
D: alsa-util.c:   avail_min    : 62005
D: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
D: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
D: alsa-util.c:   stop_threshold   : -1
D: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
D: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
D: alsa-util.c:   boundary     : 1073741824
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Read hardware volume: 0:  92% 1:  92%
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Thread starting up
D: rtpoll.c: Acquired POSIX realtime signal SIGRTMIN+29
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Starting playback.
I: module.c: Loaded "module-alsa-sink" (index: #0; argument:
"device_id=0 sink_name=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0
tsched=1").
D: module-hal-detect.c: Loading module-alsa-source with arguments
'device_id=0 source_name=alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0
tsched=1'
D: alsa-util.c: Trying front:0...
D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms
I: module-alsa-source.c: Successfully opened device front:0.
I: module-alsa-source.c: Successfully enabled mmap() mode.
I: module-alsa-source.c: Successfully enabled timer-based scheduling mode.
I: (alsa-lib)control.c: Invalid CTL front:0
I: alsa-util.c: Unable to attach to mixer front:0: No such file or directory
I: alsa-util.c: Successfully attached to mixer 'hw:0'
I: alsa-util.c: Using mixer control "Capture".
I: source.c: Created source 1
"alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0" with sample
spec s16le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
I: module-alsa-source.c: Using 1 fragments of size 65536 bytes, buffer
time is 371,52ms
I: module-alsa-source.c: Time scheduling watermark is 20,00ms
D: module-alsa-source.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
D: module-alsa-source.c: setting avail_min=62005
I: module-alsa-source.c: Volume ranges from 0 to 15.
I: module-alsa-source.c: Volume ranges from 0,00 dB to 22,50 dB.
I: alsa-util.c: All 2 channels can be mapped to mixer channels.
I: module-alsa-source.c: Using hardware volume control. Hardware dB
scale supported.
D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump():
D: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel ICH5' device 0 subdevice 0
D: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
D: alsa-util.c:   stream       : CAPTURE
D: alsa-util.c:   access       : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
D: alsa-util.c:   format       : S16_LE
D: alsa-util.c:   subformat    : STD
D: alsa-util.c:   channels     : 2
D: alsa-util.c:   rate         : 44100
D: alsa-util.c:   exact rate   : 44100 (44100/1)
D: alsa-util.c:   msbits       : 16
D: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 16384
D: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 16384
D: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 371519
D: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : NONE
D: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
D: alsa-util.c:   avail_min    : 62005
D: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
D: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
D: alsa-util.c:   stop_threshold   : -1
D: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
D: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
D: alsa-util.c:   boundary     : 1073741824
D: module-alsa-source.c: Read hardware volume: 0: 132% 1: 132%
D: module-alsa-source.c: Thread starting up
D: rtpoll.c: Acquired POSIX realtime signal SIGRTMIN+28
I: module.c: Loaded "module-alsa-source" (index: #1; argument:
"device_id=0 source_name=alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0
tsched=1").
D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_3
D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_2
D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_control__1
I: module-hal-detect.c: Loaded 2 modules.
I: module.c: Loaded "module-hal-detect" (index: #2; argument: "").
D: cli-command.c: Checking for existance of
'/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-esound-protocol-unix.so': success
I: module.c: Loaded "module-esound-protocol-unix" (index: #3; argument: "").
I: module.c: Loaded "module-native-protocol-unix" (index: #4; argument: "").
I: module-stream-restore.c: Sucessfully opened database file
'/home/antonio/.pulse/38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9:stream-volumes.i386-redhat-linux-gnu.gdbm'.
I: module.c: Loaded "module-stream-restore" (index: #5; argument: "").
I: module-device-restore.c: Sucessfully opened database file
'/home/antonio/.pulse/38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9:device-volumes.i386-redhat-linux-gnu.gdbm'.
I: module.c: Loaded "module-device-restore" (index: #6; argument: "").
I: module-default-device-restore.c: Restored default sink
'alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0'.
D: core-subscribe.c: Dropped redundant event due to change event.
I: module-default-device-restore.c: Restored default source
'alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0'.
I: module.c: Loaded "module-default-device-restore" (index: #7; argument: "").
I: module.c: Loaded "module-rescue-streams" (index: #8; argument: "").
I: module.c: Loaded "module-always-sink" (index: #9; argument: "").
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0.monitor becomes
idle.
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0 becomes idle.
I: module.c: Loaded "module-suspend-on-idle" (index: #10; argument: "").
I: client.c: Created 0 "ConsoleKit Session /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session2"
D: module-console-kit.c: Added new session /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session2
I: module.c: Loaded "module-console-kit" (index: #11; argument: "").
I: module.c: Loaded "module-position-event-sounds" (index: #12; argument: "").
D: cli-command.c: Checking for existance of
'/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-gconf.so': success
I: module.c: Loaded "module-gconf" (index: #13; argument: "").
I: main.c: Daemon startup complete.
D: module-hal-detect.c: dbus: interface=org.freedesktop.DBus,
path=/org/freedesktop/DBus, member=NameAcquired
D: module-console-kit.c: dbus: interface=org.freedesktop.DBus,
path=/org/freedesktop/DBus, member=NameAcquired
I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 idle for too
long, suspending ...
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...
I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0 idle for too
long, suspending ...
I: module-alsa-source.c: Device suspended...
I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0.monitor idle
for too long, suspending ...
I: client.c: Created 1 "Native client (UNIX socket client)"
D: protocol-native.c: Protocol version: remote 14, local 14
I: protocol-native.c: Got credentials: uid=500 gid=500 success=1
D: protocol-native.c: SHM possible: yes
D: protocol-native.c: Negotiated SHM: yes
I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring device for stream
sink-input-by-application-name:Rhythmbox.
I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring volume for sink input
sink-input-by-application-name:Rhythmbox.
D: module-stream-restore.c: Not restoring mute state for sink input
sink-input-by-application-name:Rhythmbox, because already set.
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Trying resume...
D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms
D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=62005
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Resumed successfully...
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Starting playback.
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes busy.
I: resampler.c: Forcing resampler 'copy', because of fixed, identical
sample rates.
I: resampler.c: Using resampler 'copy'
I: resampler.c: Using float32le as working format.
D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=33554432, tlength=0,
base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=1 maxrewind=0
D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=33554432,
tlength=33554432, base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=4 maxrewind=0
I: sink-input.c: Created input 0 "Playback Stream" on
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 with sample
spec s32le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
I: protocol-native.c: Requested tlength=200,00 ms, minreq=10,00 ms
D: protocol-native.c: Traditional mode enabled, modifying sink usec
only for compat with minreq.
D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=141120, tlength=70560,
base=8, prebuf=67032, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=141120, tlength=70560,
base=8, prebuf=67032, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
I: protocol-native.c: Final latency 380,00 ms = 180,00 ms + 2*10,00 ms
+ 180,00 ms
D: module-alsa-sink.c: latency set to 180,00ms
D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=8446
D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=36671
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requesting rewind due to latency change.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 61928 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 15482
D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 15482
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 61928 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 61928 bytes on render memblockq.
D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 21060 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 5265
D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 5265
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 21060 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 21060 bytes on render memblockq.
D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 20976 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 5244
D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 5244
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 20976 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 20976 bytes on render memblockq.
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=62005
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 26584 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 6646
D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 6646
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 26584 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
I: sink-input.c: Freeing input 0 "Rick Astley - Whenever You Need Somebody"
I: client.c: Freed 1 "Rhythmbox"
I: protocol-native.c: Connection died.
I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 idle for too
long, suspending ...
I: module-alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...



-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 12:40:47 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:40:47 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
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2008/10/19 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/19 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/17 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2008/10/17 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> 2008/10/17 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>:
>>>>> --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound issues
>>>>>> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:39 AM
>>>>>> 2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> > 2008/10/16 Christopher D. Stover
>>>>>> <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If
>>>>>> you do what I said and
>>>>>> >> type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does
>>>>>> that fix the problem and
>>>>>> >> you're able to listen to things again?
>>>>>> I'm honestly not sure where to file
>>>>>> >> the problem either, but I feel it's probably a
>>>>>> pulseaudio problem.  I'm not
>>>>>> >> really sure what you meant by "...problem can
>>>>>> arise from the fact that
>>>>>> >> pulseaudio is in rawhide..."
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Chris
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > as results are very different from kernel, I think
>>>>>> that kernel is the
>>>>>> > problem: after some trials I Have reverted to
>>>>>> 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
>>>>>> > Rhytmbox has played for an hour then crashed...VLC
>>>>>> refuses to play
>>>>>> > same stream.
>>>>>> > Just to clarify my meaning, I am not satisfied with
>>>>>> multimedia (and
>>>>>> > things have not improved) in rawhide, sometimes I
>>>>>> think the problem is
>>>>>> > that you have pulseaudio, Rhythmbox from rawhide,
>>>>>> codecs from other
>>>>>> > parts, and there is no clear technical responsibility
>>>>>> of which package
>>>>>> > is involved, at least for me that I am a very
>>>>>> low-level tester: from
>>>>>> > the tester's point of view, it is difficult to
>>>>>> file a bug (against
>>>>>> > what??)....also problem is well known.
>>>>>> > And when you show a Fedora system to a friend of
>>>>>> yours, multimedia is
>>>>>> > important to check the quality of any OS (in many case
>>>>>> more than
>>>>>> > network management and so on...)
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>> > Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> kernel 2.6.27.2-23.rc1.fc10.i686 is bad as many other
>>>>>> recent kernel,
>>>>>> with reference to multimedia.....my system is fully updated
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> reference also to RPMFusion.
>>>>>> VLC plays bad, Rhythmbox is suffering from many
>>>>>> interruptions....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And still Multimedia is becoming important in the choice of
>>>>>> an OP,
>>>>>> shall I revert to Bill after eight years of RH/Fedora????
>>>>>> and rawhide
>>>>>> is not as raw as someone thinks, official release is not
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> far......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you compile say mplayer from source does it make a difference?
>>>>> I don't appear to have trouble playing multimedia files.  I have xine and mplayer compiled from source.  Don't give up on Fedora yet, report bugs complain and complain and if this does not make a difference(Nobody listens, answers to your bug reports), then you can go to Bill's software(OS).
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i have reverted to 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 and issues have
>>>> disappeared (not sure, but at least Rhythmbox plays fine..for the time
>>>> being): I am reverting also to the laptop to same kernel.....I will
>>>> not file any other bug !!! sorry..as you know situation on multimedia
>>>> is poor(sound speed is well known, isn't it?) , especially if you have
>>>> an Intel chips, as I have both on desktop and laptop.
>>>> What is wrong between 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10 and following kernels is
>>>> out of my skill, I am an humble tester(FHC=Fedora humble tester), not
>>>> a IT guru... :-(.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>
>>>
>>> and also VLC seems to be playing fine....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>
>>
>> grabbed latest kernel from koij and always same issues!!!!
>> 2.6.27.3-27.rc1.fc10.i686.
>> Music is too fast so buffer becomes empty in Rhythmbox (radio streaming).
>> Bug already filed.
>> I wonder when this problem will be solved.....for the time being at
>> the moment I will revert to older kernels, then I will see......
>> For your reference see
>> http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_2dabf29b-bd26-4825-b7ed-ac1db85fec24
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
> Can somebody explain what is going on?? I run a test with pulseaudio
> -vvv and started Rhythmbox: when I got the buffer underrun in hythmbox
> I stopped the test....and this is the output...:If you look at the end
> of output you will see some rewinds and memblocks.Is this the
> problem???
>
>
> pulseaudio -k
> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>
> [antonio at Casa ~]$ pulseaudio -vvv
> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
> D: main.c: Started as real root: no, suid root: yes
> I: main.c: PolicyKit grants us acquire-high-priority privilege.
> I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
> I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
> I: core-util.c: Successfully gained nice level -11.
> I: main.c: Giving up CAP_NICE
> D: main.c: Can realtime: no, can high-priority: no
> I: main.c: This is PulseAudio 0.9.13
> D: main.c: Compilation host: i386-redhat-linux-gnu
> D: main.c: Compilation CFLAGS: -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
> -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic
> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -Wall -W -Wextra -pedantic -pipe
> -Wno-long-long -Wvla -Wno-overlength-strings -Wconversion -Wundef
> -Wformat -Wlogical-op -Wpacked -Wformat-security
> -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wformat-nonliteral -Wold-style-definition
> -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wfloat-equal -Wmissing-declarations
> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wredundant-decls
> -Wmissing-noreturn -Wshadow -Wendif-labels -Wpointer-arith
> -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Wno-unused-parameter -ffast-math
> D: main.c: Running on host: Linux i686 2.6.27.3-27.rc1.fc10.i686 #1
> SMP Sat Oct 18 20:35:56 EDT 2008
> I: main.c: Page size is 4096 bytes
> D: main.c: Compiled with Valgrind support: no
> D: main.c: Running in valgrind mode: no
> D: main.c: Optimized build: yes
> I: main.c: Machine ID is 38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9.
> I: main.c: Using runtime directory
> /home/antonio/.pulse/38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9:runtime.
> I: main.c: Using state directory /home/antonio/.pulse.
> I: main.c: Running in system mode: no
> I: main.c: Fresh high-resolution timers available! Bon appetit!
> D: memblock.c: Using shared memory pool with 1024 slots of size 64,0
> KiB each, total size is 64,0 MiB
> D: cli-command.c: Checking for existance of
> '/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-hal-detect.so': success
> I: module-hal-detect.c: Trying capability alsa
> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_timer
> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_sequencer
> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_4
> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_1
> D: module-hal-detect.c: Loading module-alsa-sink with arguments
> 'device_id=0 sink_name=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0
> tsched=1'
> D: alsa-util.c: Trying front:0...
> D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Successfully opened device front:0.
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Successfully enabled mmap() mode.
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Successfully enabled timer-based scheduling mode.
> I: (alsa-lib)control.c: Invalid CTL front:0
> I: alsa-util.c: Unable to attach to mixer front:0: No such file or directory
> I: alsa-util.c: Successfully attached to mixer 'hw:0'
> I: alsa-util.c: Using mixer control "Master".
> I: sink.c: Created sink 0
> "alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0" with sample
> spec s16le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
> I: source.c: Created source 0
> "alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0.monitor" with
> sample spec s16le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Using 1 fragments of size 65536 bytes, buffer
> time is 371,52ms
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Time scheduling watermark is 20,00ms
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=62005
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Volume ranges from 0 to 31.
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Volume ranges from -46,50 dB to 0,00 dB.
> I: alsa-util.c: All 2 channels can be mapped to mixer channels.
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Using hardware volume control. Hardware dB
> scale supported.
> D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump():
> D: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel ICH5' device 0 subdevice 0
> D: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
> D: alsa-util.c:   stream       : PLAYBACK
> D: alsa-util.c:   access       : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
> D: alsa-util.c:   format       : S16_LE
> D: alsa-util.c:   subformat    : STD
> D: alsa-util.c:   channels     : 2
> D: alsa-util.c:   rate         : 44100
> D: alsa-util.c:   exact rate   : 44100 (44100/1)
> D: alsa-util.c:   msbits       : 16
> D: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 16384
> D: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 16384
> D: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 371519
> D: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : NONE
> D: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
> D: alsa-util.c:   avail_min    : 62005
> D: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
> D: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
> D: alsa-util.c:   stop_threshold   : -1
> D: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
> D: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
> D: alsa-util.c:   boundary     : 1073741824
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Read hardware volume: 0:  92% 1:  92%
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Thread starting up
> D: rtpoll.c: Acquired POSIX realtime signal SIGRTMIN+29
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Starting playback.
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-alsa-sink" (index: #0; argument:
> "device_id=0 sink_name=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0
> tsched=1").
> D: module-hal-detect.c: Loading module-alsa-source with arguments
> 'device_id=0 source_name=alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0
> tsched=1'
> D: alsa-util.c: Trying front:0...
> D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms
> I: module-alsa-source.c: Successfully opened device front:0.
> I: module-alsa-source.c: Successfully enabled mmap() mode.
> I: module-alsa-source.c: Successfully enabled timer-based scheduling mode.
> I: (alsa-lib)control.c: Invalid CTL front:0
> I: alsa-util.c: Unable to attach to mixer front:0: No such file or directory
> I: alsa-util.c: Successfully attached to mixer 'hw:0'
> I: alsa-util.c: Using mixer control "Capture".
> I: source.c: Created source 1
> "alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0" with sample
> spec s16le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
> I: module-alsa-source.c: Using 1 fragments of size 65536 bytes, buffer
> time is 371,52ms
> I: module-alsa-source.c: Time scheduling watermark is 20,00ms
> D: module-alsa-source.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
> D: module-alsa-source.c: setting avail_min=62005
> I: module-alsa-source.c: Volume ranges from 0 to 15.
> I: module-alsa-source.c: Volume ranges from 0,00 dB to 22,50 dB.
> I: alsa-util.c: All 2 channels can be mapped to mixer channels.
> I: module-alsa-source.c: Using hardware volume control. Hardware dB
> scale supported.
> D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump():
> D: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel ICH5' device 0 subdevice 0
> D: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
> D: alsa-util.c:   stream       : CAPTURE
> D: alsa-util.c:   access       : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
> D: alsa-util.c:   format       : S16_LE
> D: alsa-util.c:   subformat    : STD
> D: alsa-util.c:   channels     : 2
> D: alsa-util.c:   rate         : 44100
> D: alsa-util.c:   exact rate   : 44100 (44100/1)
> D: alsa-util.c:   msbits       : 16
> D: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 16384
> D: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 16384
> D: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 371519
> D: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : NONE
> D: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
> D: alsa-util.c:   avail_min    : 62005
> D: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
> D: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
> D: alsa-util.c:   stop_threshold   : -1
> D: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
> D: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
> D: alsa-util.c:   boundary     : 1073741824
> D: module-alsa-source.c: Read hardware volume: 0: 132% 1: 132%
> D: module-alsa-source.c: Thread starting up
> D: rtpoll.c: Acquired POSIX realtime signal SIGRTMIN+28
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-alsa-source" (index: #1; argument:
> "device_id=0 source_name=alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0
> tsched=1").
> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_3
> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_2
> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_control__1
> I: module-hal-detect.c: Loaded 2 modules.
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-hal-detect" (index: #2; argument: "").
> D: cli-command.c: Checking for existance of
> '/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-esound-protocol-unix.so': success
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-esound-protocol-unix" (index: #3; argument: "").
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-native-protocol-unix" (index: #4; argument: "").
> I: module-stream-restore.c: Sucessfully opened database file
> '/home/antonio/.pulse/38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9:stream-volumes.i386-redhat-linux-gnu.gdbm'.
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-stream-restore" (index: #5; argument: "").
> I: module-device-restore.c: Sucessfully opened database file
> '/home/antonio/.pulse/38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9:device-volumes.i386-redhat-linux-gnu.gdbm'.
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-device-restore" (index: #6; argument: "").
> I: module-default-device-restore.c: Restored default sink
> 'alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0'.
> D: core-subscribe.c: Dropped redundant event due to change event.
> I: module-default-device-restore.c: Restored default source
> 'alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0'.
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-default-device-restore" (index: #7; argument: "").
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-rescue-streams" (index: #8; argument: "").
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-always-sink" (index: #9; argument: "").
> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0.monitor becomes
> idle.
> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
> alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0 becomes idle.
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-suspend-on-idle" (index: #10; argument: "").
> I: client.c: Created 0 "ConsoleKit Session /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session2"
> D: module-console-kit.c: Added new session /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session2
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-console-kit" (index: #11; argument: "").
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-position-event-sounds" (index: #12; argument: "").
> D: cli-command.c: Checking for existance of
> '/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-gconf.so': success
> I: module.c: Loaded "module-gconf" (index: #13; argument: "").
> I: main.c: Daemon startup complete.
> D: module-hal-detect.c: dbus: interface=org.freedesktop.DBus,
> path=/org/freedesktop/DBus, member=NameAcquired
> D: module-console-kit.c: dbus: interface=org.freedesktop.DBus,
> path=/org/freedesktop/DBus, member=NameAcquired
> I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 idle for too
> long, suspending ...
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...
> I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
> alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0 idle for too
> long, suspending ...
> I: module-alsa-source.c: Device suspended...
> I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0.monitor idle
> for too long, suspending ...
> I: client.c: Created 1 "Native client (UNIX socket client)"
> D: protocol-native.c: Protocol version: remote 14, local 14
> I: protocol-native.c: Got credentials: uid=500 gid=500 success=1
> D: protocol-native.c: SHM possible: yes
> D: protocol-native.c: Negotiated SHM: yes
> I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring device for stream
> sink-input-by-application-name:Rhythmbox.
> I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring volume for sink input
> sink-input-by-application-name:Rhythmbox.
> D: module-stream-restore.c: Not restoring mute state for sink input
> sink-input-by-application-name:Rhythmbox, because already set.
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Trying resume...
> D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=62005
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Resumed successfully...
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Starting playback.
> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes busy.
> I: resampler.c: Forcing resampler 'copy', because of fixed, identical
> sample rates.
> I: resampler.c: Using resampler 'copy'
> I: resampler.c: Using float32le as working format.
> D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=33554432, tlength=0,
> base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=1 maxrewind=0
> D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=33554432,
> tlength=33554432, base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=4 maxrewind=0
> I: sink-input.c: Created input 0 "Playback Stream" on
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 with sample
> spec s32le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
> I: protocol-native.c: Requested tlength=200,00 ms, minreq=10,00 ms
> D: protocol-native.c: Traditional mode enabled, modifying sink usec
> only for compat with minreq.
> D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=141120, tlength=70560,
> base=8, prebuf=67032, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
> D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=141120, tlength=70560,
> base=8, prebuf=67032, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
> I: protocol-native.c: Final latency 380,00 ms = 180,00 ms + 2*10,00 ms
> + 180,00 ms
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: latency set to 180,00ms
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=8446
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=36671
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requesting rewind due to latency change.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 61928 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 15482
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 15482
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 61928 bytes.
> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 61928 bytes on render memblockq.
> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 21060 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 5265
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 5265
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 21060 bytes.
> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 21060 bytes on render memblockq.
> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 20976 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 5244
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 5244
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 20976 bytes.
> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 20976 bytes on render memblockq.
> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=62005
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 26584 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 6646
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 6646
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 26584 bytes.
> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
> I: sink-input.c: Freeing input 0 "Rick Astley - Whenever You Need Somebody"
> I: client.c: Freed 1 "Rhythmbox"
> I: protocol-native.c: Connection died.
> I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 idle for too
> long, suspending ...
> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...
>
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

these are the last lines of a log after three interruptions...

 protocol-native.c: Final latency 380,00 ms = 180,00 ms + 2*10,00 ms + 180,00 ms
D: module-alsa-sink.c: latency set to 180,00ms
D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=8446
D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=36671
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requesting rewind due to latency change.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 61964 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 15491
D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 15491
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 61964 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...

D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 61964 bytes on render memblockq.
D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 27312 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 6828
D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 6828
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 27312 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 27312 bytes on render memblockq.

D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 22872 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 5718
D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 5718
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 22872 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 22872 bytes on render memblockq.

D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 19680 bytes.
D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 4920
D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 4920
D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 19680 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 19680 bytes on render memblockq.


-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Sun Oct 19 12:55:28 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:55:28 +0200
Subject: NetworkManager-openvpn issues
Message-ID: <48FB2E40.1090804@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Hi,

I'm testing NetworkManager (0.7.0-0.11.svn4175) with the openvpn plugin 
(0.7.0-16.svn4175) against openvpn (2.1-0.27.rc9.el5). I see a couple of 
problems.

Problem #1:

On the openvpn server side in /etc/openvpn/server.conf I have the 
following line:

push "dhcp-option SEARCH vpn.test.local"

with the goal to get on the client side added by NetworkManager in 
/etc/resolv.conf:

search test.local
search vpn.test.local
nameserver 192.168.1.1  <-- is the ip of the dns on the openvpn box

When I setup the VPN connection from NetworkManager than the line 
"search vpn.test.local" is not added to /etc/resolv.conf on the client.
NetworkManager only adds:

search test.local
nameserver 192.168.1.1

Problem #2:

When I close the VPN connection, the following lines are not removed 
from /etc/resolv.conf on the client side:

search test.local
nameserver 192.168.1.1

Problem #3

Manually added routes in the VPN config in NetworkManager (or in the 
vpnc config) are not saved.

Anyone seen any of these issues before? Known? Bugzilla them?

Thanks,
Patrick



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 13:18:10 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:18:10 +0200
Subject: Sound issues
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810190540n50e207dar21222e60f350031e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810170439s1e70449bjff4ba7b7562911a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<585527.7568.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4c37b6af0810170534kc81bb8eib27a8c24860256de@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810170535q677abcc9j42e0b3fef2b4eba8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810190203w3af6f6e1k8d5e1793ec5eb5e5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810190433v1fd8f440w7fc15dda22160b76@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810190540n50e207dar21222e60f350031e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810190618r27f9d864l9ba2f91f291a2800@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/19 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
> 2008/10/19 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/10/19 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>> 2008/10/17 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>> 2008/10/17 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>> 2008/10/17 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>:
>>>>>> --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound issues
>>>>>>> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:39 AM
>>>>>>> 2008/10/16 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> > 2008/10/16 Christopher D. Stover
>>>>>>> <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Antonio -- You said you have the same problem.  If
>>>>>>> you do what I said and
>>>>>>> >> type pulseaudio -k when it stops working, does
>>>>>>> that fix the problem and
>>>>>>> >> you're able to listen to things again?
>>>>>>> I'm honestly not sure where to file
>>>>>>> >> the problem either, but I feel it's probably a
>>>>>>> pulseaudio problem.  I'm not
>>>>>>> >> really sure what you meant by "...problem can
>>>>>>> arise from the fact that
>>>>>>> >> pulseaudio is in rawhide..."
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Chris
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > as results are very different from kernel, I think
>>>>>>> that kernel is the
>>>>>>> > problem: after some trials I Have reverted to
>>>>>>> 2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
>>>>>>> > Rhytmbox has played for an hour then crashed...VLC
>>>>>>> refuses to play
>>>>>>> > same stream.
>>>>>>> > Just to clarify my meaning, I am not satisfied with
>>>>>>> multimedia (and
>>>>>>> > things have not improved) in rawhide, sometimes I
>>>>>>> think the problem is
>>>>>>> > that you have pulseaudio, Rhythmbox from rawhide,
>>>>>>> codecs from other
>>>>>>> > parts, and there is no clear technical responsibility
>>>>>>> of which package
>>>>>>> > is involved, at least for me that I am a very
>>>>>>> low-level tester: from
>>>>>>> > the tester's point of view, it is difficult to
>>>>>>> file a bug (against
>>>>>>> > what??)....also problem is well known.
>>>>>>> > And when you show a Fedora system to a friend of
>>>>>>> yours, multimedia is
>>>>>>> > important to check the quality of any OS (in many case
>>>>>>> more than
>>>>>>> > network management and so on...)
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>>> > Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> kernel 2.6.27.2-23.rc1.fc10.i686 is bad as many other
>>>>>>> recent kernel,
>>>>>>> with reference to multimedia.....my system is fully updated
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> reference also to RPMFusion.
>>>>>>> VLC plays bad, Rhythmbox is suffering from many
>>>>>>> interruptions....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And still Multimedia is becoming important in the choice of
>>>>>>> an OP,
>>>>>>> shall I revert to Bill after eight years of RH/Fedora????
>>>>>>> and rawhide
>>>>>>> is not as raw as someone thinks, official release is not
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>> far......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you compile say mplayer from source does it make a difference?
>>>>>> I don't appear to have trouble playing multimedia files.  I have xine and mplayer compiled from source.  Don't give up on Fedora yet, report bugs complain and complain and if this does not make a difference(Nobody listens, answers to your bug reports), then you can go to Bill's software(OS).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> i have reverted to 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10.i686 and issues have
>>>>> disappeared (not sure, but at least Rhythmbox plays fine..for the time
>>>>> being): I am reverting also to the laptop to same kernel.....I will
>>>>> not file any other bug !!! sorry..as you know situation on multimedia
>>>>> is poor(sound speed is well known, isn't it?) , especially if you have
>>>>> an Intel chips, as I have both on desktop and laptop.
>>>>> What is wrong between 2.6.27-0.370.rc8.fc10 and following kernels is
>>>>> out of my skill, I am an humble tester(FHC=Fedora humble tester), not
>>>>> a IT guru... :-(.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and also VLC seems to be playing fine....
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>>
>>>
>>> grabbed latest kernel from koij and always same issues!!!!
>>> 2.6.27.3-27.rc1.fc10.i686.
>>> Music is too fast so buffer becomes empty in Rhythmbox (radio streaming).
>>> Bug already filed.
>>> I wonder when this problem will be solved.....for the time being at
>>> the moment I will revert to older kernels, then I will see......
>>> For your reference see
>>> http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_2dabf29b-bd26-4825-b7ed-ac1db85fec24
>>>
>>> --
>>> Antonio Montagnani
>>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>>
>> Can somebody explain what is going on?? I run a test with pulseaudio
>> -vvv and started Rhythmbox: when I got the buffer underrun in hythmbox
>> I stopped the test....and this is the output...:If you look at the end
>> of output you will see some rewinds and memblocks.Is this the
>> problem???
>>
>>
>> pulseaudio -k
>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>>
>> [antonio at Casa ~]$ pulseaudio -vvv
>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>> I: caps.c: Dropping root priviliges.
>> I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
>> D: main.c: Started as real root: no, suid root: yes
>> I: main.c: PolicyKit grants us acquire-high-priority privilege.
>> I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
>> I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
>> I: core-util.c: Successfully gained nice level -11.
>> I: main.c: Giving up CAP_NICE
>> D: main.c: Can realtime: no, can high-priority: no
>> I: main.c: This is PulseAudio 0.9.13
>> D: main.c: Compilation host: i386-redhat-linux-gnu
>> D: main.c: Compilation CFLAGS: -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
>> -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
>> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic
>> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -Wall -W -Wextra -pedantic -pipe
>> -Wno-long-long -Wvla -Wno-overlength-strings -Wconversion -Wundef
>> -Wformat -Wlogical-op -Wpacked -Wformat-security
>> -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wformat-nonliteral -Wold-style-definition
>> -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wfloat-equal -Wmissing-declarations
>> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wredundant-decls
>> -Wmissing-noreturn -Wshadow -Wendif-labels -Wpointer-arith
>> -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Wno-unused-parameter -ffast-math
>> D: main.c: Running on host: Linux i686 2.6.27.3-27.rc1.fc10.i686 #1
>> SMP Sat Oct 18 20:35:56 EDT 2008
>> I: main.c: Page size is 4096 bytes
>> D: main.c: Compiled with Valgrind support: no
>> D: main.c: Running in valgrind mode: no
>> D: main.c: Optimized build: yes
>> I: main.c: Machine ID is 38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9.
>> I: main.c: Using runtime directory
>> /home/antonio/.pulse/38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9:runtime.
>> I: main.c: Using state directory /home/antonio/.pulse.
>> I: main.c: Running in system mode: no
>> I: main.c: Fresh high-resolution timers available! Bon appetit!
>> D: memblock.c: Using shared memory pool with 1024 slots of size 64,0
>> KiB each, total size is 64,0 MiB
>> D: cli-command.c: Checking for existance of
>> '/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-hal-detect.so': success
>> I: module-hal-detect.c: Trying capability alsa
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
>> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_timer
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
>> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_sequencer
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
>> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_4
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
>> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_1
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: Loading module-alsa-sink with arguments
>> 'device_id=0 sink_name=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0
>> tsched=1'
>> D: alsa-util.c: Trying front:0...
>> D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Successfully opened device front:0.
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Successfully enabled mmap() mode.
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Successfully enabled timer-based scheduling mode.
>> I: (alsa-lib)control.c: Invalid CTL front:0
>> I: alsa-util.c: Unable to attach to mixer front:0: No such file or directory
>> I: alsa-util.c: Successfully attached to mixer 'hw:0'
>> I: alsa-util.c: Using mixer control "Master".
>> I: sink.c: Created sink 0
>> "alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0" with sample
>> spec s16le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
>> I: source.c: Created source 0
>> "alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0.monitor" with
>> sample spec s16le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Using 1 fragments of size 65536 bytes, buffer
>> time is 371,52ms
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Time scheduling watermark is 20,00ms
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=62005
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Volume ranges from 0 to 31.
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Volume ranges from -46,50 dB to 0,00 dB.
>> I: alsa-util.c: All 2 channels can be mapped to mixer channels.
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Using hardware volume control. Hardware dB
>> scale supported.
>> D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump():
>> D: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel ICH5' device 0 subdevice 0
>> D: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
>> D: alsa-util.c:   stream       : PLAYBACK
>> D: alsa-util.c:   access       : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
>> D: alsa-util.c:   format       : S16_LE
>> D: alsa-util.c:   subformat    : STD
>> D: alsa-util.c:   channels     : 2
>> D: alsa-util.c:   rate         : 44100
>> D: alsa-util.c:   exact rate   : 44100 (44100/1)
>> D: alsa-util.c:   msbits       : 16
>> D: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 16384
>> D: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 16384
>> D: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 371519
>> D: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : NONE
>> D: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
>> D: alsa-util.c:   avail_min    : 62005
>> D: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
>> D: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
>> D: alsa-util.c:   stop_threshold   : -1
>> D: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
>> D: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
>> D: alsa-util.c:   boundary     : 1073741824
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Read hardware volume: 0:  92% 1:  92%
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Thread starting up
>> D: rtpoll.c: Acquired POSIX realtime signal SIGRTMIN+29
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Starting playback.
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-alsa-sink" (index: #0; argument:
>> "device_id=0 sink_name=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0
>> tsched=1").
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: Loading module-alsa-source with arguments
>> 'device_id=0 source_name=alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0
>> tsched=1'
>> D: alsa-util.c: Trying front:0...
>> D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms
>> I: module-alsa-source.c: Successfully opened device front:0.
>> I: module-alsa-source.c: Successfully enabled mmap() mode.
>> I: module-alsa-source.c: Successfully enabled timer-based scheduling mode.
>> I: (alsa-lib)control.c: Invalid CTL front:0
>> I: alsa-util.c: Unable to attach to mixer front:0: No such file or directory
>> I: alsa-util.c: Successfully attached to mixer 'hw:0'
>> I: alsa-util.c: Using mixer control "Capture".
>> I: source.c: Created source 1
>> "alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0" with sample
>> spec s16le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
>> I: module-alsa-source.c: Using 1 fragments of size 65536 bytes, buffer
>> time is 371,52ms
>> I: module-alsa-source.c: Time scheduling watermark is 20,00ms
>> D: module-alsa-source.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
>> D: module-alsa-source.c: setting avail_min=62005
>> I: module-alsa-source.c: Volume ranges from 0 to 15.
>> I: module-alsa-source.c: Volume ranges from 0,00 dB to 22,50 dB.
>> I: alsa-util.c: All 2 channels can be mapped to mixer channels.
>> I: module-alsa-source.c: Using hardware volume control. Hardware dB
>> scale supported.
>> D: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump():
>> D: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'Intel ICH5' device 0 subdevice 0
>> D: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
>> D: alsa-util.c:   stream       : CAPTURE
>> D: alsa-util.c:   access       : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
>> D: alsa-util.c:   format       : S16_LE
>> D: alsa-util.c:   subformat    : STD
>> D: alsa-util.c:   channels     : 2
>> D: alsa-util.c:   rate         : 44100
>> D: alsa-util.c:   exact rate   : 44100 (44100/1)
>> D: alsa-util.c:   msbits       : 16
>> D: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 16384
>> D: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 16384
>> D: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 371519
>> D: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : NONE
>> D: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
>> D: alsa-util.c:   avail_min    : 62005
>> D: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
>> D: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
>> D: alsa-util.c:   stop_threshold   : -1
>> D: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
>> D: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
>> D: alsa-util.c:   boundary     : 1073741824
>> D: module-alsa-source.c: Read hardware volume: 0: 132% 1: 132%
>> D: module-alsa-source.c: Thread starting up
>> D: rtpoll.c: Acquired POSIX realtime signal SIGRTMIN+28
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-alsa-source" (index: #1; argument:
>> "device_id=0 source_name=alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0
>> tsched=1").
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
>> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_3
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
>> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_2
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: Not loaded device
>> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_control__1
>> I: module-hal-detect.c: Loaded 2 modules.
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-hal-detect" (index: #2; argument: "").
>> D: cli-command.c: Checking for existance of
>> '/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-esound-protocol-unix.so': success
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-esound-protocol-unix" (index: #3; argument: "").
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-native-protocol-unix" (index: #4; argument: "").
>> I: module-stream-restore.c: Sucessfully opened database file
>> '/home/antonio/.pulse/38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9:stream-volumes.i386-redhat-linux-gnu.gdbm'.
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-stream-restore" (index: #5; argument: "").
>> I: module-device-restore.c: Sucessfully opened database file
>> '/home/antonio/.pulse/38929f7e08634e91811e590047369ba9:device-volumes.i386-redhat-linux-gnu.gdbm'.
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-device-restore" (index: #6; argument: "").
>> I: module-default-device-restore.c: Restored default sink
>> 'alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0'.
>> D: core-subscribe.c: Dropped redundant event due to change event.
>> I: module-default-device-restore.c: Restored default source
>> 'alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0'.
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-default-device-restore" (index: #7; argument: "").
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-rescue-streams" (index: #8; argument: "").
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-always-sink" (index: #9; argument: "").
>> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
>> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0.monitor becomes
>> idle.
>> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
>> alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0 becomes idle.
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-suspend-on-idle" (index: #10; argument: "").
>> I: client.c: Created 0 "ConsoleKit Session /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session2"
>> D: module-console-kit.c: Added new session /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session2
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-console-kit" (index: #11; argument: "").
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-position-event-sounds" (index: #12; argument: "").
>> D: cli-command.c: Checking for existance of
>> '/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-gconf.so': success
>> I: module.c: Loaded "module-gconf" (index: #13; argument: "").
>> I: main.c: Daemon startup complete.
>> D: module-hal-detect.c: dbus: interface=org.freedesktop.DBus,
>> path=/org/freedesktop/DBus, member=NameAcquired
>> D: module-console-kit.c: dbus: interface=org.freedesktop.DBus,
>> path=/org/freedesktop/DBus, member=NameAcquired
>> I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 idle for too
>> long, suspending ...
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...
>> I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
>> alsa_input.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0 idle for too
>> long, suspending ...
>> I: module-alsa-source.c: Device suspended...
>> I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Source
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0.monitor idle
>> for too long, suspending ...
>> I: client.c: Created 1 "Native client (UNIX socket client)"
>> D: protocol-native.c: Protocol version: remote 14, local 14
>> I: protocol-native.c: Got credentials: uid=500 gid=500 success=1
>> D: protocol-native.c: SHM possible: yes
>> D: protocol-native.c: Negotiated SHM: yes
>> I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring device for stream
>> sink-input-by-application-name:Rhythmbox.
>> I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring volume for sink input
>> sink-input-by-application-name:Rhythmbox.
>> D: module-stream-restore.c: Not restoring mute state for sink input
>> sink-input-by-application-name:Rhythmbox, because already set.
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Trying resume...
>> D: alsa-util.c: Maximum hw buffer size is 371 ms
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=62005
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Resumed successfully...
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Starting playback.
>> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
>> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes busy.
>> I: resampler.c: Forcing resampler 'copy', because of fixed, identical
>> sample rates.
>> I: resampler.c: Using resampler 'copy'
>> I: resampler.c: Using float32le as working format.
>> D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=33554432, tlength=0,
>> base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=1 maxrewind=0
>> D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=33554432,
>> tlength=33554432, base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=4 maxrewind=0
>> I: sink-input.c: Created input 0 "Playback Stream" on
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 with sample
>> spec s32le 2ch 44100Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
>> I: protocol-native.c: Requested tlength=200,00 ms, minreq=10,00 ms
>> D: protocol-native.c: Traditional mode enabled, modifying sink usec
>> only for compat with minreq.
>> D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=141120, tlength=70560,
>> base=8, prebuf=67032, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
>> D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=141120, tlength=70560,
>> base=8, prebuf=67032, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
>> I: protocol-native.c: Final latency 380,00 ms = 180,00 ms + 2*10,00 ms
>> + 180,00 ms
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: latency set to 180,00ms
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=8446
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=36671
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requesting rewind due to latency change.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 61928 bytes.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 15482
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 15482
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 61928 bytes.
>> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
>> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 61928 bytes on render memblockq.
>> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 21060 bytes.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 5265
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 5265
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 21060 bytes.
>> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
>> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 21060 bytes on render memblockq.
>> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 20976 bytes.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 5244
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 5244
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 20976 bytes.
>> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
>> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 20976 bytes on render memblockq.
>> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=0
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=62005
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 26584 bytes.
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 6646
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 6646
>> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 26584 bytes.
>> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
>> D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 becomes idle.
>> I: sink-input.c: Freeing input 0 "Rick Astley - Whenever You Need Somebody"
>> I: client.c: Freed 1 "Rhythmbox"
>> I: protocol-native.c: Connection died.
>> I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
>> alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0 idle for too
>> long, suspending ...
>> I: module-alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Montagnani
>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>
> these are the last lines of a log after three interruptions...
>
>  protocol-native.c: Final latency 380,00 ms = 180,00 ms + 2*10,00 ms + 180,00 ms
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: latency set to 180,00ms
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=8446
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=36671
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requesting rewind due to latency change.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 61964 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 15491
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 15491
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 61964 bytes.
> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
>
> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 61964 bytes on render memblockq.
> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 27312 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 6828
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 6828
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 27312 bytes.
> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 27312 bytes on render memblockq.
>
> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 22872 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 5718
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 5718
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 22872 bytes.
> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 22872 bytes on render memblockq.
>
> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 19680 bytes.
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 4920
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 4920
> D: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 19680 bytes.
> D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
> D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 19680 bytes on render memblockq.
>
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>

it was filed as  Bug 466027 -  sound is bad in gstreamer

Not sure about the component.

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 14:55:40 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:55:40 -0500
Subject: Testing Fedora 10 Snapshot 2 - Xfce Spin
In-Reply-To: <48F9CDEB.5020709@fedoraproject.org>
References: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810172101v1f7129bt7c382ea0a2c64fdf@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F9CDEB.5020709@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810190755y4de23277oaa11d89d316bdc5a@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/18/08, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>> Feedback on the latter could be simplified:
>> First, include a link to the wiki page[1] in a post such as this.
>> Second, in the above wiki page, include the current packages, probably
>> in the section titled "Current Packages"... :-)
>
> It is a wiki. You are welcome to participate and improve the content.
>
> Rahul

Done. It's not pretty, but then neither was your passive-aggressive
way of asking.
Please don't ever make that request to me again. I'm a dad and
husband, with a mortgage, two cars, and two dogs, and I'll contribute
when I feel I have the time and technical expertise to do so in a
fitting manner.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From bruno at wolff.to  Sun Oct 19 15:03:53 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:03:53 -0500
Subject: Yum upgrade vs preupgrade - readahead etc
In-Reply-To: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081019150353.GA24751@wolff.to>

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:04:12 +0100,
  Jonathan Roberts <jonrob at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> 
> * Would the same problem occur if I'd used preupgrade?

I am not sure as I don't use preupgrade, but I would expect so for the case
where a package has been updated in F9 since the snapshot of rawhide you
used to do the yum upgrade.

> * How can identify missing packages/settings and add them to my
> current Fedora installation?

package-clean --orphans
Use the --oldpackage option to rpm to force an older version to be replaced.

> * Should this be considered a bug?

In general no (assuming you are going from F9 + Updates), but in some specific
cases it might be.



From cra at WPI.EDU  Sun Oct 19 16:14:04 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:14:04 -0400
Subject: Testing Fedora 10 Snapshot 2 - Xfce Spin
In-Reply-To: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>
References: <48F94604.6040301@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20081019161404.GL27052@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 07:42:20AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You can find both the x86 and x86_64 torrents at
>
> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
>
> If you can, do download, test it and send your feedback. I am  
> specifically looking for any Xfce specific issues (which can be reported  
> to http://bugzilla.redhat.com) as well as comments on default choice of  
> applications.

What component do we use for filing bugs against Live spins?  This 
goes for all Live spins, not just XFCE...



From kevin.kofler at chello.at  Sun Oct 19 16:14:26 2008
From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:14:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Snap2 KDE desktop crashes, konqueror can't resolve names
References: <20081019064943.GA20559@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <loom.20081019T161234-312@post.gmane.org>

Chuck Anderson <cra <at> WPI.EDU> writes:
> 1. After booting up the live image without any network cable plugged 
> in, I started Web Browser (konqueror).  This failed with a DNS error 
> page of course since I had no network connection yet. I plugged my 
> Ethernet cable in and NetworkManager got an address without problems.  
> >From konsole I was able to ping and ssh to IP addresses and DNS names 
> without problems.  However, the open web browser still reported DNS 
> errors on every page I tried.  Even closing konqueror and reopening it 
> again didn't clear the error.

I'm not sure what the problem is here. Maybe it cached the failed DNS lookup?

> 2. Shortly after the above tests, I was typing in the terminal and the 
> entire desktop session crashed and sent me back to the KDM login.
> 
> I rebooted and verified that Konqueror worked correctly if I left the 
> network cable plugged in before logging in and launching the Web 
> Browser.  However, the desktop crashed again in short order.

Try updating imsettings from Rawhide (yes, yet again: Than thought the problems 
were fixed properly and disabled the workaround he added after the beta, but 
there are still problems and so the workaround got reenabled, but it didn't 
make snap2).

        Kevin Kofler



From ml at deadbabylon.de  Sun Oct 19 16:33:11 2008
From: ml at deadbabylon.de (Sebastian Vahl)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:33:11 +0200
Subject: Snap2 KDE desktop crashes, konqueror can't resolve names
In-Reply-To: <20081019064943.GA20559@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081019064943.GA20559@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <20081019183311.7f66ec99@deadbabylon.de>

Am Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:49:43 -0400
schrieb Chuck Anderson <cra at WPI.EDU>:

> I'm testing the F10-Snap2-x86_64-Live-KDE image and have encountered 
> these two problems so far:
> 
> 1. After booting up the live image without any network cable plugged 
> in, I started Web Browser (konqueror).  This failed with a DNS error 
> page of course since I had no network connection yet. I plugged my 
> Ethernet cable in and NetworkManager got an address without
> problems.  
> >From konsole I was able to ping and ssh to IP addresses and DNS
> >names 
> without problems.  However, the open web browser still reported DNS 
> errors on every page I tried.  Even closing konqueror and reopening
> it again didn't clear the error.
> 
> 2. Shortly after the above tests, I was typing in the terminal and
> the entire desktop session crashed and sent me back to the KDM login.
> 
> I rebooted and verified that Konqueror worked correctly if I left the 
> network cable plugged in before logging in and launching the Web 
> Browser.  However, the desktop crashed again in short order.
> 

There seems to be some SELinux issues in the composed images, maybe
these are also causing your problems.
See also: 
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-spins/2008-October/000221.html

Sebastian
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From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Sun Oct 19 16:53:55 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:53:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Yum upgrade vs preupgrade - readahead etc
In-Reply-To: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810191852110.31747@sandbox.cz>

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008, Jonathan Roberts wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> After yum upgrading my way to F10 from F9, the experience as already
> reported was pretty painless. The only problem is that some packages,
> key to Fedora 10 features, do not get picked up with the update. e.g.
> readahead, and grub doesn't seem to have been updated either.
>
> A few questions:
>
> * Would the same problem occur if I'd used preupgrade?

Preupgrade is more or less the same process as, anaconda update. Therefore 
I think this depends on anaconda..

> * How can identify missing packages/settings and add them to my
> current Fedora installation?
> * Should this be considered a bug?

I do not think so. If you are updating via yum, this is absolutly correct 
result.

>
> Kindly,
>
> Jon


Adam Pribyl



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 17:11:32 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (kwhiskerz)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:11:32 -0600
Subject: F-10 snap2 X server fails to find keyboard or mouse
References: <gdd79g$5jf$1@ger.gmane.org> <gdd9ig$cc7$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<gdde53$p4g$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gdfpo5$jit$2@ger.gmane.org>

kwhiskerz wrote:

> with keyboard/mouse problems due to evdev, I have an
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf file that contains only this (it solved my similar
> problems entirely):
> 
> Section "ServerFlags"
>  Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
> EndSection
> 
> Also, I would advise not to install the latest xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.0.7-1,

Disregard this entirely. Get rid of xorg.conf and try again. This solved my similar problem entirely.



From cra at WPI.EDU  Sun Oct 19 17:23:51 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:23:51 -0400
Subject: Snap2 KDE desktop crashes, konqueror can't resolve names
In-Reply-To: <loom.20081019T161234-312@post.gmane.org>
References: <20081019064943.GA20559@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<loom.20081019T161234-312@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20081019172351.GM27052@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 04:14:26PM +0000, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Chuck Anderson <cra <at> WPI.EDU> writes:
> > 1. After booting up the live image without any network cable plugged 
> > in, I started Web Browser (konqueror).  This failed with a DNS error 
> > page of course since I had no network connection yet. I plugged my 
> > Ethernet cable in and NetworkManager got an address without problems.  
> > >From konsole I was able to ping and ssh to IP addresses and DNS names 
> > without problems.  However, the open web browser still reported DNS 
> > errors on every page I tried.  Even closing konqueror and reopening it 
> > again didn't clear the error.
> 
> I'm not sure what the problem is here. Maybe it cached the failed DNS lookup?

Yeah, it seems like it cached the failed lookup.  Does KDE keep its 
own DNS cache somewhere?

> > 2. Shortly after the above tests, I was typing in the terminal and the 
> > entire desktop session crashed and sent me back to the KDM login.
> > 
> > I rebooted and verified that Konqueror worked correctly if I left the 
> > network cable plugged in before logging in and launching the Web 
> > Browser.  However, the desktop crashed again in short order.
> 
> Try updating imsettings from Rawhide (yes, yet again: Than thought the problems 
> were fixed properly and disabled the workaround he added after the beta, but 
> there are still problems and so the workaround got reenabled, but it didn't 
> make snap2).

I can't find the imsettings package at all on the LiveCD...  Could it 
be something else then?



From stickster at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 22:05:09 2008
From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:05:09 -0400
Subject: f9 gnome auto login questions
In-Reply-To: <48FA31F6.3060302@verizon.net>
References: <48F841CA.7020801@verizon.net>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810181917001.13066@sandbox.cz>
	<48FA2EDD.5060303@verizon.net> <48FA31F6.3060302@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20081019220509.GC15384@salma.internal.frields.org>

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:59:02AM -0700, Skunk Worx wrote:
> Skunk Worx wrote:
>> Adam Pribyl wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Skunk Worx wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a post I made yesterday to the fedora-list. There have been 
>>>> no replies yet. I'm hoping someone here can give me a clue on how 
>>>> to disable gnome "User Switching" or offer opinions on the 
>>>> following. The behavior is a little unsettling.
>>>
>>> I'd consider this as bug with security implications too.. to me it  
>>> seems as kind of serious problem worth to report into bugzilla.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, Adam...bz # 467569
>
> Note : renaming /usr/bin/gdmflexiserver, as mentioned in a similar  
> Ubuntu bug report (referenced in the bz), appears to disable the "Switch  
> User" button.

That's definitely not the right solution for disabling user switching.

I believe the correct way is to edit
/etc/gconf/schemas/desktop_gnome_lockdown.schemas, changing the entry:

/schemas/desktop/gnome/lockdown/disable_user_switching

...to be <default>true</default> for all users.

You should never have to monkey with things in /usr to set
configurations like this.

-- 
Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
  gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
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From mclasen at redhat.com  Sun Oct 19 22:16:31 2008
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:16:31 -0400
Subject: f9 gnome auto login questions
In-Reply-To: <20081019220509.GC15384@salma.internal.frields.org>
References: <48F841CA.7020801@verizon.net>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810181917001.13066@sandbox.cz>
	<48FA2EDD.5060303@verizon.net> <48FA31F6.3060302@verizon.net>
	<20081019220509.GC15384@salma.internal.frields.org>
Message-ID: <1224454591.31862.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 18:05 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:59:02AM -0700, Skunk Worx wrote:
> > Skunk Worx wrote:
> >> Adam Pribyl wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Skunk Worx wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This is a post I made yesterday to the fedora-list. There have been 
> >>>> no replies yet. I'm hoping someone here can give me a clue on how 
> >>>> to disable gnome "User Switching" or offer opinions on the 
> >>>> following. The behavior is a little unsettling.
> >>>
> >>> I'd consider this as bug with security implications too.. to me it  
> >>> seems as kind of serious problem worth to report into bugzilla.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the suggestion, Adam...bz # 467569
> >
> > Note : renaming /usr/bin/gdmflexiserver, as mentioned in a similar  
> > Ubuntu bug report (referenced in the bz), appears to disable the "Switch  
> > User" button.
> 
> That's definitely not the right solution for disabling user switching.
> 
> I believe the correct way is to edit
> /etc/gconf/schemas/desktop_gnome_lockdown.schemas, changing the entry:
> 
> /schemas/desktop/gnome/lockdown/disable_user_switching
> 
> ...to be <default>true</default> for all users.
> 
> You should never have to monkey with things in /usr to set
> configurations like this.

That is right....but changing a gconf schema is not the right way to
change a default either. Run gconf-editor as root, open a "Defaults
Window", and change the value there. That'll make the change in the
"Defaults database" in /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults. If you don't want 
any user to be able to change this, you can use a "Mandatory Window", 
to make the change in the "Mandatory database", which takes precedence
over user settings.

Matthias



From davidsen at tmr.com  Mon Oct 20 00:20:12 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:20:12 -0400
Subject: F10-Snapshot-X86_64-KDE
In-Reply-To: <78323d480810181532l499a778do9d7590ca1b85303a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480810120844y7461c7adheadf490e9f27c22a@mail.gmail.com>
	<78323d480810181532l499a778do9d7590ca1b85303a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FBCEBC.7050307@tmr.com>

Mani A wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Mani A <a.mani.cms at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am replying to my mail.
>> I tried the latest one (released yesterday).
> 
> and snapshot-2 too
> 
>> TEST-1, 2
>>
>> System: AMD dual core Athlon ATI690G
>> RAM: 4 GB (Dual Channel DDR2)
>> Graphics: Radeon X1200 (integrated) &  Card Radeon 2400
>> Hard Disk: SATA Seagate   AHCI
>>
>> Extra Boot Time Kernel Parameters: NONE
>>
>> Messages:
>> Did see things like
>> don't' know how to make device "loop2"
>> don't' know how to make device "loop3"
>>
> 
> All other problems seem to be fixed in snapshot-2, except for
> automatic detection of display resolution.
> 
I'm not worried about "automatic detection," is there any way at all to tell the 
system to use more than 640x480 (800x600 on one system)? The nice tab for 
defining monitor resolution is gone, replaced with nothing I have found.

640x480 on a 1600x1200 or 1920x1080 monitor is very readable, probably from 100 
yards away without optics. I've given up testing for the moment, nothing I 
really want to test runs, even in 800x600.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Mon Oct 20 00:26:32 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:26:32 -0400
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop> <48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>
Message-ID: <48FBD038.8040107@tmr.com>

J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a couple of questions regarding grub and plymouth and whether
>> what I'm seeing may or may not be a bug.
>> First, when I boot my laptop I am usually greeted by a GRUB menu with a
>> background image, this is not the case in F10.  Instead, my laptop goes
>> automatically into booting from a blank screen.  Then I get a couple of
>> messages and then plymouth starts.  Is this normal or should I get the
>> usual GRUB menu with the count down allowing me to select kernels?
>> Note: this laptop is only running F10 it's not a dual boot or anything
>> strange.
>>
>>   
> This is expected behaviour press esc key while the black screen is 
> displayed
> and the grub menu gets displayed.
>> Second, when plymouth starts my screen is black except for a progress
>> bar, which is doesn't progress smoothly and changes a few colours with
>> the words Fedora 9.92 in the lower right hand corner.  However, the
>> progress bar does eventual fill out though it still flickers with
>> different colours.  I have an intel 945 video chip. 
>>   
> Also expected.
> KMS works only on ATI cards, Intel not far away but probably wont make 
> it in time for F10
> Nvidia some where in the distant future...
> 
Would I be a real whiner if I said there out to be a way to get it to use vesa 
mode, which may be slow but but at least *works*? I'd love to try some 
additional features, but I can't without a working display.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot




From davidsen at tmr.com  Mon Oct 20 00:32:29 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:32:29 -0400
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <48F46CC1.7090107@hi.is>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>	<48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>	<1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>	<6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>	<1223977557.48f46a55a1fbe@ssl.mecca.ca>
	<48F46CC1.7090107@hi.is>
Message-ID: <48FBD19D.100@tmr.com>

J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote:
> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
>> Quoting Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>:
>>
>>  
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:
>>>    
>>>> I have an nvidia chipset, and I see the same thing the OP 
>>>> mentioned.  So
>>>> this isn't what is shown with ATI Cards/chipsets?  If not, what do
>>>> *they* see? Is there a screen shot out there somewhere of what *should*
>>>> be shown?
>>>>       
>>> There is a FIXME on 
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterStartup
>>> [I can throw something up there when I sort out my FAS login...]
>>>
>>> However even with ATI cards, Plymouth sometimes does the progress bar,
>>> sometimes the pretty infinity thing. Depends maybe on KMS or boot
>>>     
>>
>>
>> Same thing happens on Nvidia cards that supoosely does not have KMS.
>>   
> The cards that do not support kms get the progress bars other get this..
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jSh1ZOaNYs
> 
> Note This is what most ATI card owners are supposed to get.
> ( If not file a bug report )
> 
I don't think my ATI card is supported, too new, too old, wrong color, whatever. 
FC9 works, neither the installer nor running system really do.

> Intel and Nvidia and other unsupported graphic cards owner will get the 
> "progress bar"
> since KMS is disabled for those cards..
> 
> The final artwork will be different than the one on the youtube video 
> though.
> 
> JBG
> 


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot




From davidsen at tmr.com  Mon Oct 20 00:36:34 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:36:34 -0400
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <4a2527c40810140804o7b6fef1dh7dd40f126a8fba83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<48F3CCB8.1070509@hi.is>	<1223965982.9467.2.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>	<6d06ce20810132347l69c062em6dfde0d3d27190e4@mail.gmail.com>	<1223977557.48f46a55a1fbe@ssl.mecca.ca>
	<48F46CC1.7090107@hi.is>	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810141646580.27127@sandbox.cz>
	<4a2527c40810140804o7b6fef1dh7dd40f126a8fba83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FBD292.8030403@tmr.com>

Bruno GARDIN wrote:
> I should be a lucky then as i am having an Intel Video and get the
> nice Fedora splash screen. I think it's because i run Rawhide on a
> virtual VMware guest system and my video is virtualized. Thank you
> VMware !
> 
Yes, using KVM and the 2.6.27 FC9 kernel I can get a boot, but like raw hardware 
I get only 800x600 screen size. Time to go VMware, perhaps.

> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Adam Pribyl <pribyl at lowlevel.cz> wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>>
>>> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
>>>> Quoting Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Mike Chambers <mike at miketc.net> wrote:
>>> The cards that do not support kms get the progress bars other get this..
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jSh1ZOaNYs
>>>
>>> Note This is what most ATI card owners are supposed to get.
>>> ( If not file a bug report )
>>>
>>> Intel and Nvidia and other unsupported graphic cards owner will get the
>>> "progress bar"
>>> since KMS is disabled for those cards..
>> The advantage is not very obvious to me from those videos. Crazy wave or
>> crazy progress bar..:) Tried on nvidia and intel and both show progress
>> bar.. I thought intel was to first one to have KMS..
>>

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot




From davidsen at tmr.com  Mon Oct 20 00:41:47 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:41:47 -0400
Subject: F10 Snap 1
In-Reply-To: <f3ddc6d30810131805y2923bf7dj18a93528f33103c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f3ddc6d30810131805y2923bf7dj18a93528f33103c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FBD3CB.6080406@tmr.com>

James Hubbard wrote:
> Fedora 10 Snapshot 1 LiveCD has worked much better for than the Beta
> Live CD.  While trying to use the Beta, I was not able to get it to
> boot into X.  I had tried to a couple of boot params to force it to
> use vesa, but I don't know if those are available anymore.  The video
> card is listed as an ATI 3200.
> 
Is a fully rawhide updated system supposed to be functionally the same as SS1? 
And could you tell me what magic gets it to use vesa, since the obvious edit of 
the boot line to include video=vesa doesn't do anything obvious on any of my 
systems.

> With the Snapshot 1 LiveCD, it did boot into X.  My problem though is
> that at 1920x1200, the login/desktop screen wiggles.  The more things
> that are open, the worse it is.  By dropping down to a lower
> resolution, the problem goes away.
> 
> I also installed from the LiveCD.  Everything was going fine until I
> tried to send the hardware profile during first boot.  I didn't
> realize that my network wasn't connected.  When I clicked send, it
> dropped to a black screen and said something about iterating over int.
> 
> Profile:
> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_40f59bc4-1c21-470b-88bc-1aeefda634b4
> 


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From jamundso at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 02:03:33 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:03:33 -0500
Subject: F10 Snap 1
In-Reply-To: <48FBD3CB.6080406@tmr.com>
References: <f3ddc6d30810131805y2923bf7dj18a93528f33103c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FBD3CB.6080406@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810191903w350f819bo23f9880b8b448fbf@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
> James Hubbard wrote:
>>
>> Fedora 10 Snapshot 1 LiveCD has worked much better for than the Beta
>> Live CD.  While trying to use the Beta, I was not able to get it to
>> boot into X.  I had tried to a couple of boot params to force it to
>> use vesa, but I don't know if those are available anymore.  The video
>> card is listed as an ATI 3200.
>>
> Is a fully rawhide updated system supposed to be functionally the same as
> SS1? And could you tell me what magic gets it to use vesa, since the obvious
> edit of the boot line to include video=vesa doesn't do anything obvious on
> any of my systems.

Rawhide is now f10 snap2++
Maybe the video answer you seek is here -
http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 02:14:10 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:44:10 +0530
Subject: F10-Snapshot-X86_64-KDE
In-Reply-To: <48FBCEBC.7050307@tmr.com>
References: <78323d480810120844y7461c7adheadf490e9f27c22a@mail.gmail.com>
	<78323d480810181532l499a778do9d7590ca1b85303a@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FBCEBC.7050307@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <78323d480810191914l1baf39cclc809bc1a22c5519c@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>> All other problems seem to be fixed in snapshot-2, except for
>> automatic detection of display resolution.
>>
> I'm not worried about "automatic detection," is there any way at all to tell
> the system to use more than 640x480 (800x600 on one system)? The nice tab
> for defining monitor resolution is gone, replaced with nothing I have found.

In the boot screen
Press esc, then tab
add resolution=1600x1200 as a boot option

and any other 'boot time kernel option' that may be relevant.

On radeon HD 36xx cards, too the radeon driver works 'out of box'

>
> 640x480 on a 1600x1200 or 1920x1080 monitor is very readable, probably from
> 100 yards away without optics. I've given up testing for the moment, nothing
> I really want to test runs, even in 800x600.

Best

A. Mani


-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From Matt_Domsch at dell.com  Mon Oct 20 02:17:36 2008
From: Matt_Domsch at dell.com (Matt Domsch)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:17:36 -0500
Subject: rawhide report: 20081018 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081018100959.D71A41B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
References: <20081018100959.D71A41B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081020021736.GA11851@auslistsprd01.us.dell.com>

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 10:09:59AM +0000, Rawhide Report wrote:
> Compose started at Sat Oct 18 06:01:17 UTC 2008
> 
> New package ipmitool
>         Utility for IPMI control
> Updated Packages:
> 
> OpenIPMI-2.0.14-3.fc10
> ----------------------
> * Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Jan Safranek <jsafrane at redhat.com> - 2.0.14-3
> - split ipmitool to separate package

Yea! Thank you!  I've argued unsuccessfully for years that ipmitool
should have been its own package.
-Matt

-- 
Matt Domsch
Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO
linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux



From Jeffrey.Atkinson at students.olin.edu  Mon Oct 20 03:06:10 2008
From: Jeffrey.Atkinson at students.olin.edu (Jeffrey Atkinson)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:06:10 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <1224339855.9079.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EB97E0.9070103@opennms.org>	<loom.20081014T234840-927@post.gmane.org>
	<48F905C0.7030500@opennms.org>	<gdb2fa$48e$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<48F94A33.70900@opennms.org>  <48F95DC0.8010108@opennms.org>
	<1224339855.9079.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <DA80C3E6C10BE94E8FCACEB239C2FEE4458DC10A19@EXVS01.olin.edu>

Hello XO Testers,
I'm Jeffrey Atkinson, a student at Olin College, and a member of the networking subgroup along with the other Olin students (as we have 5+ XOs to test, we should be able to try mesh setup...)
I got my devkey recently and have had trouble with writing the Snap 1 live image to the 4gig sd card. Fedora complained the card wasn't partitioned (as I was writing to sdb1) and I repartitioned it, which seemed to work, but the image was not readable off the card. My XO didn't boot off of it automatically or using boot /media/disk.
What is the live image file system? Does it matter -- is it compatible with the sd card?
Thanks, looking forward to getting into testing,
--Jeffrey



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Mon Oct 20 05:25:51 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:25:51 +0200
Subject: F10-Snapshot-X86_64-KDE
In-Reply-To: <78323d480810191914l1baf39cclc809bc1a22c5519c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480810120844y7461c7adheadf490e9f27c22a@mail.gmail.com>	<78323d480810181532l499a778do9d7590ca1b85303a@mail.gmail.com>	<48FBCEBC.7050307@tmr.com>
	<78323d480810191914l1baf39cclc809bc1a22c5519c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FC165F.1010306@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

Mani A wrote:
>
> In the boot screen
> Press esc, then tab
> add resolution=1600x1200 as a boot option
>
>
>   
Did not work for me.
Using snapshot 2 x86_64 kde live on amd 3800+ with nvidia 6100.



From atodorov at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 06:33:15 2008
From: atodorov at redhat.com (Alexander Todorov)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:33:15 +0300
Subject: International XO shipments
Message-ID: <48FC262B.2040808@redhat.com>

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Good morning,
I believe at least few people outside US haven't heard back on their XOs. There
was someone who posted on the list last week or so as well and I didn't see a
follow up. What's happening with XOs for outside US (I'm in Europe)? Are we
going to get them before the test schedule is over?

Thanks,
Alexander.
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From dan at danny.cz  Mon Oct 20 08:09:27 2008
From: dan at danny.cz (Dan =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hor=E1k?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:09:27 +0200
Subject: International XO shipments
In-Reply-To: <48FC262B.2040808@redhat.com>
References: <48FC262B.2040808@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224490167.3591.37.camel@eagle.danny.cz>


Alexander Todorov p??e v Po 20. 10. 2008 v 09:33 +0300:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> Good morning,
> I believe at least few people outside US haven't heard back on their XOs. There
> was someone who posted on the list last week or so as well and I didn't see a
> follow up. What's happening with XOs for outside US (I'm in Europe)? Are we
> going to get them before the test schedule is over?
> 

AFAIK (from previous emails or blogs) the testing phase was extended
into November.


		Dan

-- 
Fedora and Red Hat package maintainer



From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 08:30:41 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:30:41 +0100
Subject: rawhide report: 20081018 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081020021736.GA11851@auslistsprd01.us.dell.com>
References: <20081018100959.D71A41B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<20081020021736.GA11851@auslistsprd01.us.dell.com>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810200130p54838f5av737b946ed2543d1f@mail.gmail.com>

>> New package ipmitool
>>         Utility for IPMI control
>> Updated Packages:
>>
>> OpenIPMI-2.0.14-3.fc10
>> ----------------------
>> * Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Jan Safranek <jsafrane at redhat.com> - 2.0.14-3
>> - split ipmitool to separate package
>
> Yea! Thank you!  I've argued unsuccessfully for years that ipmitool
> should have been its own package.
> -Matt

What was it part of before? I just thought it had never been packaged.

Peter



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 20 10:07:50 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:07:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081020 changes
Message-ID: <20081020100751.059FD1B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon Oct 20 06:01:24 UTC 2008

New package fbterm
        FbTerm is a fast terminal emulator for linux with frame buffer device
New package perl-Sysadm-Install
        Typical installation tasks for system administrators
Updated Packages:

Perlbal-1.70-2.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Ruben Kerkhof <ruben at rubenkerkhof.com> 1.70-2
- Use Perlbal::XS::HTTPHeaders to speed up header parsing


TeXmacs-1.0.7-1.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Gerard Milmeister <gemi at bluewin.ch> - 1.0.7-1
- new release 1.0.7


bluez-4.15-1.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.15-1
- Update to 4.15


bug-buddy-2.24.1-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


control-center-2.24.0.1-8.fc10
------------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0.1-8
- Fix a ui glitch in the keybinding capplet


crypto-utils-2.4.1-1
--------------------

fwbackups-1.43.2-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Stewart Adam <s.adam at diffingo.com> 1.43.2-3
- Add patch for trayNotify bug


fwbuilder-3.0.0-2.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Ertzinger <ralf at skytale.met> 3.0.0-2
- Just keep fedora-fwbuilder.desktop (fixes BZ467618)


global-5.7.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Gerard Milmeister <gemi at bluewin.ch> - 5.7.2-1
- new release 5.7.2


gnome-keyring-2.24.1-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


gnu-smalltalk-3.1-1.fc10
------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 3.1-1
- New upstream release


gscan2pdf-0.9.26-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Sep 30 18:00:00 2008 Bernard Johnson <bjohnson at symetrix.com> - 0.9.26-1
- v 0.9.26


intltool-0.40.5-1.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 0.40.5-1
- Update to 0.40.5


libxcb-1.1.91-5.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 1.1.91-5
- Add pthread-stubs.pc


m17n-contrib-1.1.7-5.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 1.1.7-5.fc10
- add obsoletes for ibus-m17n subpackages


m17n-db-1.5.2-4.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 1.5.2-4.fc10
- add obsoletes for ibus-m17n subpackages
- fix m17n-gen-ibus-engine to check for lang 't'


mantis-1.1.4-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Gianluca Sforna <giallu gmail com> - 1.1.4-1
- new upstream release

* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Gianluca Sforna <giallu gmail com> - 1.1.3-1
- new upstream release
- drop upstreamed patch


mesa-7.2-0.9.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 7.2-0.9
- r300: re-enable zerocopy TFP for non-kms system
- r300: fix sw fallbacks on !kms + fix debug

* Tue Oct 14 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com>
- spec-only fix: exit builtin needs a numeric arg, not string.


moto4lin-0.3-11.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Sean Reifschneider <jafo at tummy.com> - 0.3-11
- Updating release to build new version.


perl-PDF-API2-0.71.001-2.fc10
-----------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Bernard Johnson <bjohnson at symetrix.com> - 0.71.001-2
- bump for cvs tag

* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Bernard Johnson <bjohnson at symetrix.com> - 0.71.001-1
- v 0.71.001


perl-mogilefs-server-2.20-4.fc10
--------------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Ruben Kerkhof <ruben at rubenkerkhof.com> 2.20-4
- Add the 'None' backend

* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Ruben Kerkhof <ruben at rubenkerkhof.com> 2.20-3
- Remove the included dependencies before building, not after

* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Ruben Kerkhof <ruben at rubenkerkhof.com> 2.20-2
- Remove included dependencies

* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Ruben Kerkhof <ruben at rubenkerkhof.com> 2.20-1
- Upstream released new version


polyml-5.2-1.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Gerard Milmeister <gemi at bluewin.ch> - 5.2-1
- new release 5.2


python-basemap-0.99-4.fc10
--------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.99-4
- Update -setup.py patch for geos 3.0.1

* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.99-3
- Rebuild for new geos, fixes broken deps


qgis-0.11.0-3.fc10
------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.11.0-3
- Rebuild for new geos, fixes broken deps


seahorse-2.24.1-1.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


seahorse-plugins-2.24.1-2.fc10
------------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> 2.24.1-2
- Update to 2.24.1


squid-3.0.STABLE9-2.fc10
------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 7:3.0.STABLE9-2
- disable coss support, not officially supported in 3.0

* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 7:3.0.STABLE9-1
- update to latest upstream


ucview-0.22-2.fc10
------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 0.22-2
- Rebuild against unicap 0.93


util-vserver-0.30.215-6.fc10
----------------------------

xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-28.fc10
------------------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-28
- fix set tex offset for non modesetting cases


xorg-x11-server-1.5.2-7.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.5.2-7
- xserver-1.5.2-no-duplicate-devices.patch: don't re-add devices through HAL
  if they are already added (#467462).

* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.5.2-6
- Update xserver-1.5.2-disable-kbd-mouse.patch: if no config file is present,
  we need to force AllowEmptyInput on.


Summary:
Added Packages: 2
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 31
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 10:18:04 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:18:04 +0200
Subject: VirtualBox and Fedora 10 - crashing all the time!?!
Message-ID: <64b14b300810200318u619fcd0bm7086fd65ff54aafa@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
my company switched to new Exchange 2007 and unfortunately
evolution-exchange plugin doesn't support it so I was "forced" to
start using Windows again (after using only Fedora on my work for past
4 years).

I installed Windows XP under VirutalBox but I have issues all the
time. The virtual machine works ok for some time and then just stops
and in VirtualBox I get status "suspended". I had this under Fedora
Core 6 and also now in Fedora 10 beta.

Does anybody have some experience running windows under VirtualBox?
How is windows behaving for you?

Thank you in advance,
Valent.

-- 
http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/
linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless
registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org.
ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic



From tim.lauridsen at googlemail.com  Mon Oct 20 11:30:09 2008
From: tim.lauridsen at googlemail.com (Tim Lauridsen)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:30:09 +0200
Subject: Suspend/resume problems with kernel 2.6.27-3.fc10 and
 2.6.27-13.fc10 (works in kernel-2.6.27-0.398.rc9.fc10)
In-Reply-To: <bcb3ef430810170302m4cf81a8fie979052526e43621@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bcb3ef430810170302m4cf81a8fie979052526e43621@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FC6BC1.7060902@googlemail.com>

MartinG wrote:
> With the latest kernels kernel-2.6.27-3.fc10.i686 and
> kernel-2.6.27-13.fc10.i686, my
> Dell Latitude X1 (Intel i915 graphics) does no longer wake up properly
> after suspend:
> All I can see is the graphical mouse pointer on a black background,
> and the keyboard
> does not seem to work (caps lock does not toggle the caps lock led).
> So, this might be related to the keyboard driver not resuming after suspend,
> or to some modeset changes in xorg.
> 
> Everything seems to work just fine if I instead boot
> kernel-2.6.27-0.398.rc9.fc10.i686.
> 
> Smolt profile:
> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_01507560-2bed-4c14-94a5-c72964bb4b84
> 
> I have a Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML graphics card, and use
> the "intel" driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. In my grub.conf I do not
> have any modeset
> magic, as that broke X in earlier rawhide updates. Maybe this has changed now
> - in that case, what would be the appropriate kernel parameters?
> 
> I am using KDE 4 with compiz-fusion and have the following lines in my
> xorg.conf:
>         Option      "AccelMethod" "XAA" # not EXA
>         Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
> Which makes X work "pretty well". I do get a lot of errors like
>   X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
>   Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)
>   Resource id:  0x4a25e5f
> in my ~/.xsession-errors.
> 
> Below is what /var/log/messages says when I resume in
> kernel-2.6.27-3 and am forced to press the powerbutton (pressed once,
> resulting in safe powerdown,
> suspending 16:53:33, resuming 19:44:13 and pressing powerbutton at
> 19:45:11 I think)
> 
> I'd be happy to provide more details, please let me know.
> 
> -MartinG
> 

it is some intel driver related bug.
Disable compiz and it will work again.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467332

Tim



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 11:30:40 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:30:40 +0200
Subject: another cyclic problem
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810200430x5517a78bgf0cdaf583d1370b3@mail.gmail.com>

if you go to search page in Bugzilla, do you  get an error on running
scripts?? making bugzilla search out of use...

-- 
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Skype : antoniomontag



From D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl  Mon Oct 20 12:18:23 2008
From: D.Mierzejewski at icm.edu.pl (Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:18:23 +0200
Subject: nvidia strangeness
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810171144n623e1904l11ceb048f1131f2e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810171144n623e1904l11ceb048f1131f2e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081020121823.GI13193@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 08:44:10PM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> After last update and reboot I got really disturbed video.
> 
> I have Nvidia 6100go on HP tx1000 laptop using opensource nv driver running
> fedora 10 (rawhide)

Have you tried the nouveau driver?

Regards,
R.

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From bkearney at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 12:20:19 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:20:19 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>
	<48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48FC7783.2000804@redhat.com>

Marco Rhodes wrote:
> Hi all -
> 
> Just wanted to give a quick update on  where I am with testing.
> 
> I saw the message about needing the 4GB SD card a bit late. As someone 
> else pointed out in another thread, Circuit City has no problem taking 
> the 2 GB card back for a full refund (within 30 days). Problem is, they 
> stopped selling the 4GB version. So I will be ordering mine online and 
> will rush the shipment so that I can get in on the fun.

FWIW... Best Buy has them.

> 
> I did update my XO and have received my dev key. The updated interface 
> is very nice.  No problems connecting to my WPA2 network at home either.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  =MR=
> 
> 
> Marco Rhodes wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> I received my XO late Thursday and will be gearing up to begin testing 
>> starting Monday.
>> During the day, I am a member of Red Hat's Support Engineering Group 
>> with a emphasis on Identity Management/PKI.
>>
>> When all is said and done, my 6 year old son will be a *very* happy 
>> kid. He already has an older Thinkpad 570 that runs a lightweight 
>> Linux distro complete with TuxPaint and the Childsplay suite. So, 
>> imagine how cool the XO will be!
>>
>> Looking forward to working with you all.
>>
>>  =MR=
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks.
>>>
>>> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can 
>>> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a 
>>> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, 
>>> so let's all get to know each other.
>>>
>>> A reminder on getting started: see...
>>>
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>>>
>>> --g
>>>



From jameshubbard at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 12:35:21 2008
From: jameshubbard at gmail.com (James Hubbard)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:35:21 -0400
Subject: F10 Snap 1
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810191903w350f819bo23f9880b8b448fbf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f3ddc6d30810131805y2923bf7dj18a93528f33103c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FBD3CB.6080406@tmr.com>
	<6d06ce20810191903w350f819bo23f9880b8b448fbf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f3ddc6d30810200535y66d9dc59l7715c3a557952a2a@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>> James Hubbard wrote:
>>>
>>> Fedora 10 Snapshot 1 LiveCD has worked much better for than the Beta
>>> Live CD.  While trying to use the Beta, I was not able to get it to
>>> boot into X.  I had tried to a couple of boot params to force it to
>>> use vesa, but I don't know if those are available anymore.  The video
>>> card is listed as an ATI 3200.
>>>
>> Is a fully rawhide updated system supposed to be functionally the same as
>> SS1? And could you tell me what magic gets it to use vesa, since the obvious
>> edit of the boot line to include video=vesa doesn't do anything obvious on
>> any of my systems.
>
> Rawhide is now f10 snap2++
> Maybe the video answer you seek is here -
> http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes

That link describes using vga=xxx which is what I use to have more
space on the console.  What I was looking for was something like
xdriver=vesa or something similar.

I updated this morning and made sure to add nomodeset.  It doesn't
affect the problem with "wiggle" in the video at 1920x1200.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466909



From bkearney at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 13:27:38 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:27:38 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap2, i686 LIve
Message-ID: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com>

I downloaded the i686 Live image this morning (Mon, 20 october).. and 
the latest ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script from Jeremy's fedora page. I 
built the card with the command line below.

./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
512 --swap-size-mb 512 
Fedora-10-Snap2-i686-Live/F10-Snap2-i686-Live.iso /dev/sdb1

The blue plymouth bar seems quicker, but I can not get a login screen. 
Are other folks having issues?

-- bk



From katzj at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 13:52:58 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:52:58 -0400
Subject: XO: Live and /tmp
In-Reply-To: <20081017213958.GA3571@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
References: <20081017213958.GA3571@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
Message-ID: <1224510778.19054.17.camel@aglarond.local>

On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 14:39 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> With the  F10-Snap1-i686-Live image I see
> that /tmp is tmpfs which has negative impact on
> RAM.   

Not having it on tmpfs has the same memory implications.  Remember that
the "writable" area of the live image filesystem is handled by the
device-mapper snapshot.  And writing to those blocks for /tmp has worse
implications longer term

> Does it make sense to add a modest swap space partition
> to the flash SD card and build the image to test
> for and use it?

With Snap2, there's support for automatically enabling a swap file found
at LiveOS/swap.img and livecd-iso-to-disk can take a --swap-size-mb
argument (analagous to --home-size-mb)

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 13:55:16 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:55:16 -0400
Subject: Yum upgrade vs preupgrade - readahead etc
In-Reply-To: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224510916.19054.19.camel@aglarond.local>

On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 10:04 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> After yum upgrading my way to F10 from F9, the experience as already
> reported was pretty painless. The only problem is that some packages,
> key to Fedora 10 features, do not get picked up with the update. e.g.
> readahead, and grub doesn't seem to have been updated either.
> 
> A few questions:
> 
> * Would the same problem occur if I'd used preupgrade?

The bootloader gets reinstalled on upgrade (via preupgrade or just a
usual anaconda upgrade).  New packages, though, don't get pulled in
because it's too hard to tell _which_ new packages someone might want.
And even more the case with something like readahead which existed in
the past.

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 13:56:37 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:56:37 -0400
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810182015230.20888@sandbox.cz>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
	<1224169461.7707.164.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810182015230.20888@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <1224510997.19054.21.camel@aglarond.local>

On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 20:23 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> Today I however found one more problem with text based plymouth - this is 
> when the system boot fails - e.g. because it is not able to mount root 
> partition, then progress bar continues silently until the end and there 
> is no way how to found what got wrong. Yes there is one - reboot and 
> remove rhgb option in grub shell.. should I mention that when users asks 
> me, that his Fedora is not booting, my first question is - where does the 
> boot stop? With plymouth his answer will be useless, not to mention he is 
> not able to find any reasonable help based on symptoms..

Failures to mount the rootfs and the like should be followed with a
plymouth --hide-splash so that the messages about the failure get
displayed.  If that's not the case right now[1], please file a bug
against mkinitrd

Jeremy

[1] For the live initrd case, I fixed things up the latter part of last week



From katzj at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 14:15:19 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:15:19 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48F95DC0.8010108@opennms.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48EB97E0.9070103@opennms.org>	<loom.20081014T234840-927@post.gmane.org>
	<48F905C0.7030500@opennms.org>	<gdb2fa$48e$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<48F94A33.70900@opennms.org>  <48F95DC0.8010108@opennms.org>
Message-ID: <1224512119.19054.32.camel@aglarond.local>

On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 23:53 -0400, Benjamin Reed wrote:
> Benjamin Reed wrote:
> > Jack Spaar wrote:
> > 
> >> I see that Snap2 Live is out right now, including the KDE version: 
> >> 	http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
> > 
> > Cool, I'll give it a shot.
> > 
> > There was supposed to be a new version of the script that did the swap
> > stuff and such, wasn't there?  Does anyone know if that's been updated?
> 
> Ah, turns out the new script does do --swap-size-mb, it's just not in
> the --help.  ;)

Yes, I had intended to get something up mentioning this on Friday but my
laptop decided that it preferred hanging to life :-/   Anyway, posted
now (for those who haven't noticed, I've been trying to post updates on
my blog which is aggregated on the planet,
http://katzj.livejournal.com/tag/olpc and then jlaska or someone else
has been moving to the wiki)

> I've got the new snap set up, and I've gotta say, it's booting about a
> billion times slower than the old one.

I don't remember Snap2 being notably slower with the quick test I did on
Friday as Jesse was uploading torrents.  Thursday was definitely slower
because there were SELinux policy problems, but I think the image that
went up was from Friday which had those fixed.

>   livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --force --xo --overlay-size-mb 512 \
>     --swap-size-mb 512 F10-*.iso /dev/sdb1

If you've only got a 4 GB card, this might be a little over-optimistic
on sizing.  The rootfs takes 3 GB and then adding another GB.  I wonder
if you ended up with a truncated either swap or overlay file and are
seeing problems as a result.

Try a slightly smaller swap (I've been doing 256 because I have a couple
of diagnostic tools + rpms on my SD card as well) and see if that helps?

Jeremy



From bkearney at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 14:19:18 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:19:18 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap2, i686 LIve
In-Reply-To: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com>
References: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48FC9366.4010806@redhat.com>

Bryan Kearney wrote:
> I downloaded the i686 Live image this morning (Mon, 20 october).. and 
> the latest ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script from Jeremy's fedora page. I 
> built the card with the command line below.
> 
> ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
> 512 --swap-size-mb 512 Fedora-10-Snap2-i686-Live/F10-Snap2-i686-Live.iso 
> /dev/sdb1
> 
> The blue plymouth bar seems quicker, but I can not get a login screen. 
> Are other folks having issues?
> 
> -- bk
> 

Subsequent boot ups got me to a running system, and it is more stable 
with snap2. I was able to install pidgin and get onto freenode.

-- bk



From k.parnell at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 14:48:45 2008
From: k.parnell at gmail.com (Kenny Parnell)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:48:45 -0400
Subject: VirtualBox and Fedora 10 - crashing all the time!?!
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810200318u619fcd0bm7086fd65ff54aafa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810200318u619fcd0bm7086fd65ff54aafa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081020144845.GA28951@Aslan.redventures.net>

We just got Latitude E6400s here in the office. We are running on
Rawhide with no problems using VirtualBox and Win XP. We did have to
recompile the kernel module, but other than the the rmp worked straight
out of the box.

-Kenny

-- 
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People are always available for work in the past tense.

 
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:18:04PM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> my company switched to new Exchange 2007 and unfortunately
> evolution-exchange plugin doesn't support it so I was "forced" to
> start using Windows again (after using only Fedora on my work for past
> 4 years).
> 
> I installed Windows XP under VirutalBox but I have issues all the
> time. The virtual machine works ok for some time and then just stops
> and in VirtualBox I get status "suspended". I had this under Fedora
> Core 6 and also now in Fedora 10 beta.
> 
> Does anybody have some experience running windows under VirtualBox?
> How is windows behaving for you?
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> Valent.
> 
> -- 
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From rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net  Mon Oct 20 14:57:57 2008
From: rnicholsNOSPAM at comcast.net (Robert Nichols)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:57:57 -0500
Subject: F-10 snap2 X server fails to find keyboard or mouse
In-Reply-To: <gdfpo5$jit$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gdd79g$5jf$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<gdd9ig$cc7$1@ger.gmane.org>	<gdde53$p4g$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<gdfpo5$jit$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gdi69l$oo6$1@ger.gmane.org>

kwhiskerz wrote:
> kwhiskerz wrote:
> 
>> with keyboard/mouse problems due to evdev, I have an
>> /etc/X11/xorg.conf file that contains only this (it solved my similar
>> problems entirely):
>>
>> Section "ServerFlags"
>>  Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Also, I would advise not to install the latest xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.0.7-1,
> 
> Disregard this entirely. Get rid of xorg.conf and try again. This solved my similar problem entirely.

This is a fresh install of Fedora 10 Snapshot 2.  There is no xorg.conf file.

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From jonrob at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 20 15:39:43 2008
From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:39:43 +0100
Subject: Yum upgrade vs preupgrade - readahead etc
In-Reply-To: <1224510916.19054.19.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224510916.19054.19.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <507738ef0810200839m53f4febfn7a031302d2cb57fd@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/20 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com>:
> On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 10:04 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
>> After yum upgrading my way to F10 from F9, the experience as already
>> reported was pretty painless. The only problem is that some packages,
>> key to Fedora 10 features, do not get picked up with the update. e.g.
>> readahead, and grub doesn't seem to have been updated either.
>>
>> A few questions:
>>
>> * Would the same problem occur if I'd used preupgrade?
>
> The bootloader gets reinstalled on upgrade (via preupgrade or just a
> usual anaconda upgrade).  New packages, though, don't get pulled in
> because it's too hard to tell _which_ new packages someone might want.
> And even more the case with something like readahead which existed in
> the past.

I'm not particularly knowledgable about this, so it's a bit of a shot
in the dark but...

Would it be possible to reference some kind of package manifest that
defines the default package set of a release from preupgrade? It could
then compare the currently installed packages to that list,
upgrade/reinstall packages that are on both lists, and install
packages that are only on the new package manifest?

There's probably a million reasons why that's a bad idea, but I'd be
interested to hear a couple of them at least...

Jon



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 16:08:42 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:08:42 +0200
Subject: VirtualBox and Fedora 10 - crashing all the time!?!
In-Reply-To: <20081020144845.GA28951@Aslan.redventures.net>
References: <64b14b300810200318u619fcd0bm7086fd65ff54aafa@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081020144845.GA28951@Aslan.redventures.net>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810200908u70c0ca8ar98a89911398952ac@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Kenny Parnell <k.parnell at gmail.com> wrote:
> We just got Latitude E6400s here in the office. We are running on
> Rawhide with no problems using VirtualBox and Win XP. We did have to
> recompile the kernel module, but other than the the rmp worked straight
> out of the box.
>
> -Kenny
>

Ok thank you for your feedback... then I guess I have some specific issue :(

Valent.

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From mcepl at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 16:17:25 2008
From: mcepl at redhat.com (Matej Cepl)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:17:25 +0200
Subject: new kernel 2.6.27-1.fc10 does not boot
References: <928745.83897.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<48EF93FA.5010102@redhat.com> <48EF9897.7080005@redhat.com>
	<48EFA866.70906@redhat.com> <fmr4s5x57i.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>
	<48EFCCD0.7020804@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <lhnus5xv3a.ln2@ppp1053.in.ipex.cz>

On 2008-10-10, 21:44 GMT, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> You have /boot on ext4dev?  that's not supposed to work at 
> all...
>
> Hm, on further inspection this looks like an ext3 filesystem but with
> test_fs set?  Strange.

Yeah, this was the problem. However, when fixing this, I've made 
another disaster -- I unfortuantely removed also test_fs from 
/ partition (not only /boot). And the result was pretty wild -- 
I got panicking kernel on boot with that (Linux refused to mount 
/ on  a partition with ext4 filesystem but without test_fs 
option). We should really have some protection against stupid 
users -- kernel panic is not a good reaction IMHO.

Mat?j



From billcrawford1970 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 17:28:22 2008
From: billcrawford1970 at gmail.com (Bill Crawford)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:28:22 +0100
Subject: Testers - Reports against PulseAudio ( PA )
In-Reply-To: <20081014102811.87062da7.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
References: <48F453B2.1040404@hi.is>
	<20081014102811.87062da7.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <200810201828.22821.billcrawford1970@gmail.com>

On Tuesday 14 October 2008 09:28:11 Michael Schwendt wrote:

> A request: Could you please format your messages like everyone else does?
> Your usage of '*' and '/' characters in so many places is strange and
> decreases the readability a lot, IMO. Perhaps you use them as some form of
> meta-characters for "bold", "italic" and similar styles, but it doesn't
> make much sense in plain-text email.

The use of *bold* and /italic/ formatting in plain text email predates *me* on 
the internet, and I'm not that young ;o)



From katzj at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 18:02:21 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:02:21 -0400
Subject: Yum upgrade vs preupgrade - readahead etc
In-Reply-To: <507738ef0810200839m53f4febfn7a031302d2cb57fd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224510916.19054.19.camel@aglarond.local>
	<507738ef0810200839m53f4febfn7a031302d2cb57fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224525741.13204.2.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:39 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> 2008/10/20 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com>:
> > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 10:04 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> >> After yum upgrading my way to F10 from F9, the experience as already
> >> reported was pretty painless. The only problem is that some packages,
> >> key to Fedora 10 features, do not get picked up with the update. e.g.
> >> readahead, and grub doesn't seem to have been updated either.
> >>
> >> A few questions:
> >>
> >> * Would the same problem occur if I'd used preupgrade?
> >
> > The bootloader gets reinstalled on upgrade (via preupgrade or just a
> > usual anaconda upgrade).  New packages, though, don't get pulled in
> > because it's too hard to tell _which_ new packages someone might want.
> > And even more the case with something like readahead which existed in
> > the past.
> 
> I'm not particularly knowledgable about this, so it's a bit of a shot
> in the dark but...
> 
> Would it be possible to reference some kind of package manifest that
> defines the default package set of a release from preupgrade? It could
> then compare the currently installed packages to that list,
> upgrade/reinstall packages that are on both lists, and install
> packages that are only on the new package manifest?
> 
> There's probably a million reasons why that's a bad idea, but I'd be
> interested to hear a couple of them at least...

Package splits, package renames, going between multiple releases to name
a few.  The single biggest objective behind an upgrade is "move to newer
version of stuff, try to disrupt as little as possible".  

Jeremy



From limb at jcomserv.net  Mon Oct 20 18:09:04 2008
From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:09:04 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Yum upgrade vs preupgrade - readahead etc
In-Reply-To: <1224525741.13204.2.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <507738ef0810190204u450ff262s100b4534588862d8@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224510916.19054.19.camel@aglarond.local>
	<507738ef0810200839m53f4febfn7a031302d2cb57fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224525741.13204.2.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <45909.198.175.55.5.1224526144.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>


> On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:39 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
>> 2008/10/20 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com>:
>> > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 10:04 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
>> >> After yum upgrading my way to F10 from F9, the experience as already
>> >> reported was pretty painless. The only problem is that some packages,
>> >> key to Fedora 10 features, do not get picked up with the update. e.g.
>> >> readahead, and grub doesn't seem to have been updated either.
>> >>
>> >> A few questions:
>> >>
>> >> * Would the same problem occur if I'd used preupgrade?
>> >
>> > The bootloader gets reinstalled on upgrade (via preupgrade or just a
>> > usual anaconda upgrade).  New packages, though, don't get pulled in
>> > because it's too hard to tell _which_ new packages someone might want.
>> > And even more the case with something like readahead which existed in
>> > the past.
>>
>> I'm not particularly knowledgable about this, so it's a bit of a shot
>> in the dark but...
>>
>> Would it be possible to reference some kind of package manifest that
>> defines the default package set of a release from preupgrade? It could
>> then compare the currently installed packages to that list,
>> upgrade/reinstall packages that are on both lists, and install
>> packages that are only on the new package manifest?
>>
>> There's probably a million reasons why that's a bad idea, but I'd be
>> interested to hear a couple of them at least...
>
> Package splits, package renames, going between multiple releases to name
> a few.  The single biggest objective behind an upgrade is "move to newer
> version of stuff, try to disrupt as little as possible".

Ideally, proper rpm Provides/Obsoletes and EVR maintainance will allow yum
to do this.  In my experience from RH-9 to the present, it generally
works.

> Jeremy
>
> --
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>


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From katzj at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 18:09:26 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:09:26 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap2, i686 LIve
In-Reply-To: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com>
References: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224526166.13204.6.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 09:27 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
> 512 --swap-size-mb 512 
> Fedora-10-Snap2-i686-Live/F10-Snap2-i686-Live.iso /dev/sdb1

As I mentioned, I might recommend bumping down the swap a little bit to
ensure that the SD card isn't over-filled (especially since I'm not sure
we catch an error there appropriately right now :-)

> The blue plymouth bar seems quicker, but I can not get a login screen. 
> Are other folks having issues?

One thing I thought of since your second attempt went much better is
that we're now mounting the internal nand (flash) at boot to hold the
home directory.  The jffs2 mount can definitely take ~ 30 seconds
according to testing with the OLPC OS.  But unfortunately, it's not
something that we can background :(

Jeremy



From per at bothner.com  Mon Oct 20 18:15:27 2008
From: per at bothner.com (Per Bothner)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:15:27 -0700
Subject: F10 finally mostly working on ThinkPad T400
Message-ID: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>

I finally this weekend got F10 working on my ThinkPad T400 laptop.
(This has the new Centrino 2 chipset and Cantiga graphics.)
Yeah!  I still have Ubuntu on another partition, but I hope I
can mostly use Fedora from now on.

Compiz works, as does wireless.  However, neither suspend
or hibernate works.  One report suggests compiz may be the
reason suspend/hibernate don't work; so I'll experiment some more.

What I did was take the latest preupgrade (from bzr), make and
make install that.  After running preupgrade, I had to boot
in text mode, which finally worked (after some display errors
in text mode) - and surprisingly I ended up with a working X.
-- 
	--Per Bothner
per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 18:44:51 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:44:51 +0200
Subject: F10 finally mostly working on ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810201144u6919ad66pd488a1e54593326b@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/20 Per Bothner <per at bothner.com>:
> I finally this weekend got F10 working on my ThinkPad T400 laptop.
> (This has the new Centrino 2 chipset and Cantiga graphics.)
> Yeah!  I still have Ubuntu on another partition, but I hope I
> can mostly use Fedora from now on.
>
> Compiz works, as does wireless.  However, neither suspend
> or hibernate works.  One report suggests compiz may be the
> reason suspend/hibernate don't work; so I'll experiment some more.
>
> What I did was take the latest preupgrade (from bzr), make and
> make install that.  After running preupgrade, I had to boot
> in text mode, which finally worked (after some display errors
> in text mode) - and surprisingly I ended up with a working X.
> --
>        --Per Bothner
> per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

can you play a radiostream with Rhythmbox for more than one hour???

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From bkearney at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 18:43:52 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:43:52 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap2, i686 LIve
In-Reply-To: <1224526166.13204.6.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com>
	<1224526166.13204.6.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <48FCD168.3090607@redhat.com>

Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 09:27 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
>> 512 --swap-size-mb 512 
>> Fedora-10-Snap2-i686-Live/F10-Snap2-i686-Live.iso /dev/sdb1
> 
> As I mentioned, I might recommend bumping down the swap a little bit to
> ensure that the SD card isn't over-filled (especially since I'm not sure
> we catch an error there appropriately right now :-)


Ok.. will try a 256 swap space.

> 
>> The blue plymouth bar seems quicker, but I can not get a login screen. 
>> Are other folks having issues?
> 
> One thing I thought of since your second attempt went much better is
> that we're now mounting the internal nand (flash) at boot to hold the
> home directory.  The jffs2 mount can definitely take ~ 30 seconds
> according to testing with the OLPC OS.  But unfortunately, it's not
> something that we can background :(
> 
> Jeremy
> 



From AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl  Mon Oct 20 18:52:23 2008
From: AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl (A.J. Werkman)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:52:23 +0200
Subject: Login name not echoed to tty1
In-Reply-To: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>
Message-ID: <48FCD367.9070302@digifarma.nl>

When I install rawhide with only the most basic packages and login on 
tty1 the login name and its <enter> are not echoed to the screen when I 
login the first time after booting. Any other subsequent login does not 
show this behaviour.

On the other tty's I don't see this behaviour.

A minimal problem, but I thought I report it here as it might confuse 
people.

Anyone seen this?

Regards, Koos.
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From rbp at isnomore.net  Mon Oct 20 19:12:09 2008
From: rbp at isnomore.net (Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:12:09 -0200
Subject: International XO shipments
In-Reply-To: <48FC262B.2040808@redhat.com>
References: <48FC262B.2040808@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081020171209.ptdsyxa2g44gkk88@webmail.isnomore.net>

Hi,

Alexander Todorov <atodorov at redhat.com> wrote:

> I believe at least few people outside US haven't heard back on their
> XOs. There
> was someone who posted on the list last week or so as well and I didn't see a
> follow up. What's happening with XOs for outside US (I'm in Europe)? Are we
> going to get them before the test schedule is over?

On October 14th, Greg said:

"""I still do not have the tracking numbers for non-US shipments.  As  
soon as I have them, I will provide them to all."""

(and I remember him saying somewhere else that the international unit  
had been sent for shipment, despite him not having the tracking  
numbers yet).

BTW, he also mentioned (on a private exchange I had with him) that we  
"internationals" should sign up on  
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XO_Test_Roll_Call and help as we can  
(with organization, for instance) while we don't have the XOs.

Hope that helps - and also looking forward to receiving mine :)

Cheers,


         rbp
-- 
  http://isnomore.net


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From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 19:21:39 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:51:39 -0430
Subject: Testers - Reports against PulseAudio ( PA )
In-Reply-To: <200810201828.22821.billcrawford1970@gmail.com>
References: <48F453B2.1040404@hi.is>
	<20081014102811.87062da7.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
	<200810201828.22821.billcrawford1970@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224530499.6429.9.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 18:28 +0100, Bill Crawford wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 October 2008 09:28:11 Michael Schwendt wrote:
> 
> > A request: Could you please format your messages like everyone else does?
> > Your usage of '*' and '/' characters in so many places is strange and
> > decreases the readability a lot, IMO. Perhaps you use them as some form of
> > meta-characters for "bold", "italic" and similar styles, but it doesn't
> > make much sense in plain-text email.
> 
> The use of *bold* and /italic/ formatting in plain text email predates *me* on 
> the internet, and I'm not that young ;o)

I've never (I mean literally *never* :-) seen /italic/ shown this way,
though *bold* is quite common. However I think Michael's point was that
pseudo-rich text in what are meant to be literal snippets of command
lines or logs is bound to be misleading.

poc



From jkeating at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 19:30:53 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:30:53 -0700
Subject: Login name not echoed to tty1
In-Reply-To: <48FCD367.9070302@digifarma.nl>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>  <48FCD367.9070302@digifarma.nl>
Message-ID: <1224531053.30113.2.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 20:52 +0200, A.J. Werkman wrote:
> A minimal problem, but I thought I report it here as it might confuse 
> people.
> 
> Anyone seen this?

I have, I'm assuming it's a bad plymouth interaction.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From per at bothner.com  Mon Oct 20 19:48:47 2008
From: per at bothner.com (Per Bothner)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:48:47 -0700
Subject: F10 finally mostly working on ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810201144u6919ad66pd488a1e54593326b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>
	<4c37b6af0810201144u6919ad66pd488a1e54593326b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FCE09F.5000109@bothner.com>

Antonio M wrote:
> can you play a radiostream with Rhythmbox for more than one hour???

No, it does seem a little flakey.  However, I just tried it for the
first time (it was neat to see these Norwegian stations right there
in the list), so I don't have anything to compare with.
-- 
	--Per Bothner
per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 19:57:05 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:57:05 +0200
Subject: F10 finally mostly working on ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <48FCE09F.5000109@bothner.com>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>
	<4c37b6af0810201144u6919ad66pd488a1e54593326b@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FCE09F.5000109@bothner.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810201257i6ab14a7ctb43ee42a43ea21a8@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/20 Per Bothner <per at bothner.com>:
> Antonio M wrote:
>>
>> can you play a radiostream with Rhythmbox for more than one hour???
>
> No, it does seem a little flakey.  However, I just tried it for the
> first time (it was neat to see these Norwegian stations right there
> in the list), so I don't have anything to compare with.
> --
>        --Per Bothner
> per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

 will you give a look to :Bug 462200 -  snd_pcm_mmap_playback_avail
returns immens values which cause PA to fail due to CPU overload
and see if it applies to your laptop??

Tnx
-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Mon Oct 20 20:00:45 2008
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:00:45 -0400
Subject: Login name not echoed to tty1
In-Reply-To: <48FCD367.9070302@digifarma.nl>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com> <48FCD367.9070302@digifarma.nl>
Message-ID: <20081020200045.GA93298@mail.scottro.net>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 08:52:23PM +0200, A.J. Werkman wrote:
> When I install rawhide with only the most basic packages and login on  
> tty1 the login name and its <enter> are not echoed to the screen when I  
> login the first time after booting. Any other subsequent login does not  
> show this behaviour.
>
> On the other tty's I don't see this behaviour.

I've seen it on one machine, but not another.  So I figured it was just
some oddity with my lowend laptop and Intel video card. 

It's also not consistent for me, it only happens once in awhile.


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

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Dracula: I have no interest in you. Leave us. 
Xander: No, we're not going to (imitates Dracula's accent) leave 
you. And where'd you get that accent Sesame Street? One, two, 
three - three victims. Mwah, ha, ha, ha! 
Buffy: Xander, I'm pretty sure that's Dracula. 
Xander: Wow, really? Hey, sorry, man, I was... just jokin' around. 



From mrhodes at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 20:22:22 2008
From: mrhodes at redhat.com (Marco Rhodes)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:22:22 -0700
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48FC7783.2000804@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>	<48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
	<48FC7783.2000804@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48FCE87E.8010606@redhat.com>



Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Marco Rhodes wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> Just wanted to give a quick update on  where I am with testing.
>>
>> I saw the message about needing the 4GB SD card a bit late. As someone 
>> else pointed out in another thread, Circuit City has no problem taking 
>> the 2 GB card back for a full refund (within 30 days). Problem is, 
>> they stopped selling the 4GB version. So I will be ordering mine 
>> online and will rush the shipment so that I can get in on the fun.
> 
> FWIW... Best Buy has them.
Thanks, I did catch that. The 4 GB card is currently only sale there for $54.00. However, Amazon is selling the OEM "static-pack" version for 
$19.00 (no included RescuePro software). Mine should be here in the next 1-2 days. Looking forward to some performance testing.
> 
>>
>> I did update my XO and have received my dev key. The updated interface 
>> is very nice.  No problems connecting to my WPA2 network at home either.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  =MR=
>>
>>
>> Marco Rhodes wrote:
>>> Hi all -
>>>
>>> I received my XO late Thursday and will be gearing up to begin 
>>> testing starting Monday.
>>> During the day, I am a member of Red Hat's Support Engineering Group 
>>> with a emphasis on Identity Management/PKI.
>>>
>>> When all is said and done, my 6 year old son will be a *very* happy 
>>> kid. He already has an older Thinkpad 570 that runs a lightweight 
>>> Linux distro complete with TuxPaint and the Childsplay suite. So, 
>>> imagine how cool the XO will be!
>>>
>>> Looking forward to working with you all.
>>>
>>>  =MR=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>
>>>> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you 
>>>> can respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO 
>>>> and a brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite 
>>>> a bit, so let's all get to know each other.
>>>>
>>>> A reminder on getting started: see...
>>>>
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>>>>
>>>> --g
>>>>
> 
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From bkearney at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 20:52:38 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:52:38 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48FCE87E.8010606@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>	<48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>	<48FC7783.2000804@redhat.com>
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Message-ID: <48FCEF96.9000003@redhat.com>

Marco Rhodes wrote:
> 
> 
> Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> Marco Rhodes wrote:
>>> Hi all -
>>>
>>> Just wanted to give a quick update on  where I am with testing.
>>>
>>> I saw the message about needing the 4GB SD card a bit late. As 
>>> someone else pointed out in another thread, Circuit City has no 
>>> problem taking the 2 GB card back for a full refund (within 30 days). 
>>> Problem is, they stopped selling the 4GB version. So I will be 
>>> ordering mine online and will rush the shipment so that I can get in 
>>> on the fun.
>>
>> FWIW... Best Buy has them.
> Thanks, I did catch that. The 4 GB card is currently only sale there for 
> $54.00. However, Amazon is selling the OEM "static-pack" version for 
> $19.00 (no included RescuePro software). Mine should be here in the next 
> 1-2 days. Looking forward to some performance testing.


Grr.... I wonder what the Best Buy return policy is :)

-- bk



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Mon Oct 20 21:24:50 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:24:50 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Grub and Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <1224510997.19054.21.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <1223930400.3198.8.camel@cambridge-laptop>
	<1223991429.7707.102.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<1224013975.2874.141.camel@pc-notebook>
	<1224169461.7707.164.camel@atropine.boston.devel.redhat.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810182015230.20888@sandbox.cz>
	<1224510997.19054.21.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810202323470.31158@sandbox.cz>

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote:

> Failures to mount the rootfs and the like should be followed with a
> plymouth --hide-splash so that the messages about the failure get
> displayed.  If that's not the case right now[1], please file a bug
> against mkinitrd

reported as a bug #467787

>
> Jeremy
>

Adam Pribyl



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Mon Oct 20 21:27:41 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:27:41 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Login name not echoed to tty1
In-Reply-To: <1224531053.30113.2.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com> <48FCD367.9070302@digifarma.nl>
	<1224531053.30113.2.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810202326200.31158@sandbox.cz>

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Jesse Keating wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 20:52 +0200, A.J. Werkman wrote:
>> A minimal problem, but I thought I report it here as it might confuse
>> people.
>>
>> Anyone seen this?
>
> I have, I'm assuming it's a bad plymouth interaction.

I saw this too. Just by switching to init 3 from system booted to init 5. 
Therefore I am not sure this is because of plymout at in init 5 there is X 
server started ad tty1.

>
> --
> Jesse Keating


Adam Pribyl



From per at bothner.com  Mon Oct 20 21:38:54 2008
From: per at bothner.com (Per Bothner)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:38:54 -0700
Subject: F10 finally mostly working on ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810201257i6ab14a7ctb43ee42a43ea21a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>	<4c37b6af0810201144u6919ad66pd488a1e54593326b@mail.gmail.com>	<48FCE09F.5000109@bothner.com>
	<4c37b6af0810201257i6ab14a7ctb43ee42a43ea21a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FCFA6E.8020400@bothner.com>

Antonio M wrote:
> 2008/10/20 Per Bothner <per at bothner.com>:
>> Antonio M wrote:
>>> can you play a radiostream with Rhythmbox for more than one hour???
>> No, it does seem a little flakey.  However, I just tried it for the
>> first time (it was neat to see these Norwegian stations right there
>> in the list), so I don't have anything to compare with.
> 
>  will you give a look to :Bug 462200 -  snd_pcm_mmap_playback_avail
> returns immens values which cause PA to fail due to CPU overload
> and see if it applies to your laptop??

It looks related - /var/og/messages includes
Oct 19 13:43:38 localhost pulseaudio[3002]: cpulimit.c: Recevied request 
to terminate due to CPU overload.
Oct 20 13:58:17 localhost pulseaudio[4866]: cpulimit.c: Recevied request 
to terminate due to CPU overload.

[It would be nice to fix "Recevied" to "Received" ...

I also see these messages, which suggest something is wrong:

Oct 19 09:10:56 localhost pulseaudio[2641]: polkit.c: Cannot set UID on 
session object.
Oct 19 09:10:56 localhost pulseaudio[2641]: main.c: Called SUID root and 
real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the configuration. 
However, we lack the necessary priviliges:
Oct 19 09:10:56 localhost pulseaudio[2641]: main.c: We are not in group 
'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us priviliges. Dropping SUID again.
Oct 19 09:10:56 localhost pulseaudio[2641]: main.c: For enabling 
real-time scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit 
priviliges, or become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the 
RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO resource limits for this user.
Oct 19 09:10:56 localhost pulseaudio[2641]: main.c: 
setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
Oct 19 09:10:56 localhost pulseaudio[2641]: main.c: 
setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
Oct 19 09:10:57 localhost gconfd (gdm-2592): Error setting value for 
`/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay': Can't overwrite 
existing read-only value: Value for 
`/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management
_delay' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path
Oct 19 09:10:57 localhost gconfd (gdm-2592): Error setting value for 
`/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay': Can't overwrite 
existing read-only value: Value for 
`/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management
_delay' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path
Oct 19 09:10:57 localhost pulseaudio[2641]: alsa-util.c: Cannot find 
fallback mixer control "Mic".
-- 
	--Per Bothner
per at bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/



From bruno at wolff.to  Mon Oct 20 21:39:08 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:39:08 -0500
Subject: Login name not echoed to tty1
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810202326200.31158@sandbox.cz>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com> <48FCD367.9070302@digifarma.nl>
	<1224531053.30113.2.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810202326200.31158@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <20081020213908.GA4224@wolff.to>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 23:27:41 +0200,
  Adam Pribyl <pribyl at lowlevel.cz> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Jesse Keating wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 20:52 +0200, A.J. Werkman wrote:
>>> A minimal problem, but I thought I report it here as it might confuse
>>> people.
>>>
>>> Anyone seen this?
>>
>> I have, I'm assuming it's a bad plymouth interaction.
>
> I saw this too. Just by switching to init 3 from system booted to init 5. 
> Therefore I am not sure this is because of plymout at in init 5 there is 
> X server started ad tty1.

It looks like a fixed version is available on Koji now (based on change
notes). So it should be in tomorrows rawhide.



From davidsen at tmr.com  Mon Oct 20 21:56:18 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:56:18 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap2, i686 LIve
In-Reply-To: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com>
References: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48FCFE82.8090907@tmr.com>

Bryan Kearney wrote:
> I downloaded the i686 Live image this morning (Mon, 20 october).. and 
> the latest ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script from Jeremy's fedora page. I 
> built the card with the command line below.
> 
> ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
> 512 --swap-size-mb 512 Fedora-10-Snap2-i686-Live/F10-Snap2-i686-Live.iso 
> /dev/sdb1
> 
Nice. Now where does one find a working "latest" version of the script?  I 
looked in what I thought was the obvious place, see that attachment, nothing found.

The one on the Snap2 CD says the partition isn't bootable, fdisk thinks it is. 
See attached. Partition is Linux type, bootable, ext2 f/s installed. Note that I 
tried it with vfat first, that doesn't work either.

> The blue plymouth bar seems quicker, but I can not get a login screen. 
> Are other folks having issues?
> 
Other than not being able to write to a stick? ;-)

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
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From poelstra at redhat.com  Mon Oct 20 22:27:37 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:27:37 -0700
Subject: Reminder: Bug Triage Meeting Tomorrow (Tuesday) @ 14:00
Message-ID: <48FD05D9.60806@redhat.com>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday @ 14:00 UTC/10 AM EDT

We will be reviewing the follow-up actions from last week and covering 
the following items:
1) greasemonkey script--try it out!
2) FEver followup
3) defining WHY bug triage matters
   --I took an initial shot at it here: 
http://poelcat.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/why-bug-triage/
4) Nearing 1 month before release day
 
--https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/FourWeeksBeforeRelease

See you there!

John



From niftyfedora at niftyegg.com  Tue Oct 21 00:05:05 2008
From: niftyfedora at niftyegg.com (Nifty Fedora Mitch)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:05:05 -0700
Subject: XO: Live and /tmp
In-Reply-To: <1224510778.19054.17.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <20081017213958.GA3571@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
	<1224510778.19054.17.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <20081021000505.GB4901@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 09:52:58AM -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 14:39 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> > With the  F10-Snap1-i686-Live image I see
> > that /tmp is tmpfs which has negative impact on
> > RAM.   
> 
> Not having it on tmpfs has the same memory implications.  Remember that
> the "writable" area of the live image filesystem is handled by the
> device-mapper snapshot.  And writing to those blocks for /tmp has worse
> implications longer term
> 
> > Does it make sense to add a modest swap space partition
> > to the flash SD card and build the image to test
> > for and use it?
> 
> With Snap2, there's support for automatically enabling a swap file found
> at LiveOS/swap.img and livecd-iso-to-disk can take a --swap-size-mb
> argument (analagous to --home-size-mb)
> 

Thank you.....

I did try adding a swap partition and it helped a lot.
It turns out that there are some yum update %post actions
that can run the little XO out of space.  I cannot tell
if the error is a simple fork+exec that fails or if the child
realy runs things out of memory.


What I did....
Where sdXy is your selected device partition...
 sudo mkswap  -L XOSWAP /dev/sdXy

Once I added a large enough swap I was able to yum do a
full yum update on Snap1.  Without I was not able to.

I also found it helpful to set a "ulimit -v"
for yum as it wants to be large.

I have dedicated an older SD card to add swap and a scratch file system
for normal XO use -- I found I liked to have multiple terminal activities
and multiple browser windows and it appears to help.

Time for me to move to "Snap2".

-- 
	T o m  M i t c h e l l 
	Found me a new hat, now what?



From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 21 00:35:13 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:35:13 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap2, i686 LIve
In-Reply-To: <48FCFE82.8090907@tmr.com>
References: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com>  <48FCFE82.8090907@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <1224549313.13204.136.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 17:56 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Bryan Kearney wrote:
> > I downloaded the i686 Live image this morning (Mon, 20 october).. and 
> > the latest ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script from Jeremy's fedora page. I 
> > built the card with the command line below.
> > 
> > ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
> > 512 --swap-size-mb 512 Fedora-10-Snap2-i686-Live/F10-Snap2-i686-Live.iso 
> > /dev/sdb1
> > 
> Nice. Now where does one find a working "latest" version of the script?  I 
> looked in what I thought was the obvious place, see that attachment, nothing found.

As mentioned on the testing wiki page[1],
http://katzj.fedorapeople.org/olpc/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh is kept current
and usually just a little bit ahead of git

Jeremy



From wwoods at redhat.com  Tue Oct 21 03:57:05 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:57:05 -0400
Subject: F10 finally mostly working on ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>
References: <48FCCABF.5060809@bothner.com>
Message-ID: <1224561425.8709.4.camel@zebes.localdomain>

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 11:15 -0700, Per Bothner wrote:

> Compiz works, as does wireless.  However, neither suspend
> or hibernate works.  One report suggests compiz may be the
> reason suspend/hibernate don't work; so I'll experiment some more.

On my ThinkPad (old T43 with i915 graphics), running compiz definitely
breaks suspend/resume. Well, no - it *suspends* fine, but the display
never draws again after resume.

> What I did was take the latest preupgrade (from bzr), make and
> make install that.  After running preupgrade, I had to boot
> in text mode, which finally worked (after some display errors
> in text mode) - and surprisingly I ended up with a working X.

Current preupgrade bzr is packaged as preupgrade-0.9.8-2.fc[89]. They
should have been in updates-testing, but a Bodhi error caused them to
get dropped. They got restored today.

Oh, and for the record - you can just run 'sudo ./preupgrade-gtk.py'
from the preupgrade bzr clone, rather than installing it.

Glad it worked for you!

-w



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 07:51:36 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:51:36 +0200
Subject: VirtualBox and Fedora 10 - crashing all the time!?!
In-Reply-To: <20081020144845.GA28951@Aslan.redventures.net>
References: <64b14b300810200318u619fcd0bm7086fd65ff54aafa@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081020144845.GA28951@Aslan.redventures.net>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810210051q113e80d8j42b216502ccc8acf@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Kenny Parnell <k.parnell at gmail.com> wrote:
> We just got Latitude E6400s here in the office. We are running on
> Rawhide with no problems using VirtualBox and Win XP. We did have to
> recompile the kernel module, but other than the the rmp worked straight
> out of the box.
>
> -Kenny

Just one quick question... do you have sound card inyour virtual
machine? Do you use usb emulation for virtual machine?

Cheers,
Valent.

-- 
http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/
linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless
registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org.
ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic



From dtimms at iinet.net.au  Tue Oct 21 09:39:37 2008
From: dtimms at iinet.net.au (David Timms)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:39:37 +1100
Subject: bugzilla search page times out while loading - unresponsive
	script
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810200430x5517a78bgf0cdaf583d1370b3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810200430x5517a78bgf0cdaf583d1370b3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FDA359.9080902@iinet.net.au>

Antonio M wrote:
> if you go to search page in Bugzilla, do you  get an error on running
> scripts?? making bugzilla search out of use...
some info at:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=214842

My ISP has bandwidth limited my connection this month to 64kb/s. This 
seems to have caused the show search page to
- take about 38 secs
- shows the unresponsive script stuff
- click continue
- after 12 seconds page completes.

Since it seems to be time based, if you are on slower connection, it 
would probably happen more often.

Is your internet connection similarly limited.

DaveT.



From chris1.noreply at googlemail.com  Tue Oct 21 09:43:31 2008
From: chris1.noreply at googlemail.com (Chris)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:43:31 +0100
Subject: Laptop locks up on F10 beta
Message-ID: <cab4e54e0810210243p30ee2e0cnc7b687692e09508@mail.gmail.com>

Hi test list,

I'm having big problems with F10 beta in that it causes my laptop to lock up.

I installed from the Live CD as I read that there were problems
installing from the normal installation media. After installing, the
first problem I encountered was that the initial welcome screens
(where you create a user, set date and time etc...) were not displayed
correctly in that the resolution was incorrect and the Back/Forward
buttons were off the screen so I could not find where to click them. I
resolved this by adding the "nomodeset" option to the kernel boot
args.

After that, the screen went black and the system locked up, I couldn't
get to a command line, caps lock didn't work. I rebooted with default
kernel args and it came up OK. Now I can log in, connect to a wireless
network and do most things but there seem to be some serious issues
with gnome or X. If I start gnome-terminal it works fine but if I try
to resize a window, the system locks up again.

Things get even worse if I try to update to the latest rawhide. If I
do so, the system fails to boot. The loading screen is shown with the
animated infinity symbol but then the animation freezes and I can't do
anything. I think it gets quite a long way through the boot before
failing. I was also finding that Escape wasn't showing me the boot
process so I don't know where it failed.

I've since re-installed the F10 beta so that I could upload my smolt
profile for your information. It is here:

http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_e4a528ee-3a0a-47fd-8687-51b37f5382b0

Any thought about how I can go about figuring out what the problem is?
The fact that it reliably freezes when I resize a window suggests an X
or gnome problem. I might try installing xfce now to see if I have the
same problems with a different window manager.

Ah, some more information, Fedora 7 used to work fine on my laptop but
I never managed to get F8 or F9 working. The symptoms were similar in
that lockups occurred but they were usually before I could even log in
to a desktop manager.

Thanks, Chris.



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 10:48:45 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:48:45 +0200
Subject: Sound and F10 release
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder whether for the official release of F10 I will get a decent
sound system on my boxes....pulseaudio seems a problem, not an asset.
-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 21 10:50:28 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:50:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081021 changes
Message-ID: <20081021105028.9C9EF1B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue Oct 21 06:01:14 UTC 2008

New package boswars-addons
        Addon maps for Bos Wars real-time strategy game
New package cherokee
        Flexible and Fast Webserver
New package getdata
        Library for reading and writing dirfile data
New package iml
        Finds solutions to systems of linear equations over integers
New package pymol
        PyMOL Molecular Graphics System
New package rakarrack
        Audio effects processing rack for guitar
New package simdock
        Fast and customizable dockbar
Removed package gdesklets-calendar
Updated Packages:

OpenIPMI-2.0.14-4.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Jan Safranek <jsafrane at redhat.com> - 2.0.14-4
- fix description of the package


PackageKit-0.3.8-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.8-1
- New upstream version
- Many new and updated translations.
- Merge in the QPackageKit QT library from Adrien BUSTANY

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.7-2
- Rename as newest upstream has QT binding also:
 * PackageKit-libs -> PackageKit-glib
 * PackageKit-devel -> PackageKit-glib-devel
- Add a BR for comps, and create a link that from the comps icons for the
  new category group icons.
- Create a subpackage for devel files required for out-of-tree backends.

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.7-3
- -browser-plugin: Requires: mozilla-filesystem


alienarena-7.20-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 7.20-1
- sync up with Paul Bredbury's spec file
- update to 7.20


alienarena-data-20081016-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 20081016-1
- update to 20081016
- sync up with Paul Bredbury's spec


amanda-2.6.0p2-2.fc10
---------------------

anyremote-4.11-1.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Mikhail Fedotov <anyremote at mail.ru> - 4.11-1
- Fixed issues with non-correct handling of files and directories names with 
  braces and brackets in some configuration files. 
  Several small changes in code.


asymptote-1.46-1.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.46-1
- update to 1.46


at-spi-1.24.0-5.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1.24.0-5
- Prevent a crash in evo when changing components


basesystem-10.0-1
-----------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Phil Knirsch <pknirsch at redhat.com> 10.0-1
- Bump version and rebuild for Fedora 10 (#451289)


bluez-gnome-1.8-6.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.8-6
- Add missing patch

* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.8-5
- Fix potential crasher in the wizard


bsd-games-2.17-25.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Wart <wart at kobold.org> 2.17-25
- Fix robots high score file permissions (BZ# 467726)


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.2.svn1358_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1359


cheese-2.24.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


cluster-2.99.11-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Fabio M. Di Nitto <fdinitto at redhat.com> - 2.99.11-1
- new upstream release.
- drop obsoleted patches.
- include very important gfs1 bug fix.
- include fix for fence_egenera (CVE-2008-4192).


eclipse-mylyn-3.0.1-3.fc10
--------------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 3.0.1-3
- Add >= for jdom to ensure proper OSGi metadata


eel2-2.24.1-1.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


ekiga-3.0.1-2.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 3.0.1-2
- Fix dependency issue

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> - 3.0.1-1
- Update to 3.0.1


empathy-2.24.1-1.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


eog-2.24.1-1.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


epiphany-2.24.1-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


evince-2.24.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


file-roller-2.24.1-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


fontconfig-2.6.0-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Behdad Esfahbod <besfahbo at redhat.com> - 2.6.0-3
- Add fontconfig-2.6.0-indic.patch
- Resolves: #464470


fpc-2.2.2-2.fc10
----------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Joost van der Sluis <joost at cnoc.nl> 2.2.2-2
- Pass -z noexecstack to the linker from within the configuration file fpc.cfg (fpc-bug #11563)
- Added patch to fix fpc-bug #11837 for usage with newer gtk2-versions


ganyremote-5.4-1.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Mikhail Fedotov <anyremote at mail.ru> - 5.4-1
- Enhanced edit configuration file window. Support application details 
  auto wrap. Added Bulgarian translation (thanks to Stanislav Popov)


gcalctool-5.24.1-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 5.24.1-2
- Update to 5.24.1


gcin-1.4.2-4.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 1.4.2-4
- add gcin-1.4.2-gtk-immodules-lang.patch to not enable gcin gtk immodule for all
  langs (#453093)
- spec file cleanup
- update xinput conf file to set icon and setup program


gconf-editor-2.24.1-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


gdm-2.24.0-11.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.0-11
- Respect system keyboard setting


glibc-2.8.90-14
---------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat.com> 2.8.90-14
- update from trunk
  - fix dynamic TLS handling (#467309)
  - fix sys/signalfd.h for C++ (#467172)
  - fix sprof (#458861)
  - fix _mcount and socket syscalls on s390x (#464146)
  - try harder to allocate memory in valloc and pvalloc (#461481)
- fix power6 32-bit libs (#467311)


gnash-0.8.4-3.fc10
------------------
* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> 0.8.4-3
- add a desktop file


gnome-desktop-2.24.0-9.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-9
- Fix icon flicker at start of cross fade

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-8
- consoliate window repaint code to one place
- Lengthen duration of animation if getting to the first frame
  takes a long time.


gnome-games-2.24.1-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


gnome-menus-2.24.0-2.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- Fix a translation error in Marathi


gnome-packagekit-0.3.8-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.8-1
- New upstream version


gnome-system-monitor-2.24.1-1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


gnome-terminal-2.24.1-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


gnome-themes-2.24.1-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


gnome-utils-2.24.1-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


gphoto2-2.4.3-1.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at redhat.com> 2.4.3-1
- update to 2.4.3


gtk2-engines-2.16.1-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.16.1-1
- Update to 2.16.1


gucharmap-2.24.1-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-1
- Update to 2.24.1


gupnp-0.12.2-2.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Colin Walters <walters at verbum.org> 0.12.2-2
- devel package requires gssdp-devel


gupnp-av-0.2.1-4.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.2.1-4
- Add some requires for the devel package


gvfs-1.0.2-1.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com> - 1.0.2-1
- Update to 1.0.2


hal-0.5.12-4.20081013git.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Garrett <mjg at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-4.20081013git
- Add input.keys capability to appropriate button devices


hunspell-ca-0.20081019-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.20081019-1
- latest version


kanyremote-5.4-1.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Mikhail Fedotov <anyremote at mail.ru> - 5.4-1
- Enhanced edit configuration file window. Support application details 
  auto wrap. Added Bulgarian translation (thanks to Stanislav Popov)


kdeadmin-4.1.2-4.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.1.2-4
- make %description for kcron, knetworkconf more clear (#467650)
- Requires: kdebase-workspace (for kcm modules)
- cleanup extraneous scriptlets


kernel-2.6.27.3-30.rc1.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 
- radeon: fix writeback + some warning fixes

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 
- radeon: fix VRAM sizing issue

* Sun Oct 19 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- Disable debug printks in the memstick drivers.


knetworkmanager-0.7-0.7.20080926svn.fc10
----------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 0.7-0.7.20080926svn
- fix icon hack (from 0.7-0.4)


kpackagekit-0.3.1-3.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.rog> 0.3.1-3
- patch kpackagekit.desktop (guessed correct X-DBUS-ServiceName value), 
  fixes: KDEInit could not launch "/usr/bin/kpackagekit" 
- cleanup %files


kst-1.7.0-3.fc10
----------------
* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Truch <matt at truch.net> - 1.7.0-3
- Include patch from upstream to fix savePeriod.


libgcrypt-1.4.3-2.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> 1.4.3-2
- disable asm on sparc64


libgnomedb-3.1.2-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 1:3.1.2-1
- Update to upstream 3.1.2
- 64-bit patch upstreamed
- Some directories renamed


libgphoto2-2.4.3-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at redhat.com> 2.4.3-1
- update to libgphoto2-2.4.3


Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.i386 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.i386 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.x86_64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From frankly3d at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 10:56:49 2008
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:56:49 +0100
Subject: Unsure if bug.
Message-ID: <1224586609.4813.5.camel@frank-01>

Motherboard:
ep-8k9a71 (Epox)
Onboard sata controller VT8237

2 Maxtor sata2 Drives connected to above.

Gets to grub then "Drive Error"
Will attempt to boot if VT8237 disabled,
and installed to other inbuilt ide\addon ide card.

Can give more details if\when necessary.

Frank


-- 
gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :(
aMSN: Frankly3D
http://www.frankly3d.com



From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Tue Oct 21 11:16:08 2008
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:16:08 -0400
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081021111608.GA1383@mail.scottro.net>

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:48:45PM +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> I wonder whether for the official release of F10 I will get a decent
> sound system on my boxes....pulseaudio seems a problem, not an asset.

I've found that the easiest thing for me to do is 
yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. 

There are various howtos around about getting it working.  On the other
hand, if I do that, I don't have to research any howtos, sound just
works for me.  (I have fairly unsophisticated sound needs.  Although
some people love pulseaudio, they all seem to do far more with audio
programs than I do.)

You can leave the rest of the pulseaudio programs alone.  That one seems
to be the culprit. 


-- 
Scott Robbins
PGP keyID EB3467D6
( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 )
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

Buffy: What should we do with the trio over here? Should we burn 
them? 
Willow: I brought marshmallows.



From chris1.noreply at googlemail.com  Tue Oct 21 11:22:36 2008
From: chris1.noreply at googlemail.com (Chris)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:22:36 +0100
Subject: Laptop locks up on F10 beta
In-Reply-To: <cab4e54e0810210243p30ee2e0cnc7b687692e09508@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cab4e54e0810210243p30ee2e0cnc7b687692e09508@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cab4e54e0810210422u61b2f1f1r81a46e2da44d9a7@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/21 Chris <chris1.noreply at googlemail.com>:
> or gnome problem. I might try installing xfce now to see if I have the
> same problems with a different window manager.

Sorry for replying to myself but I tried xfce and resizing
gnome-terminal also caused a lockup. But then I tried switching to the
vesa driver after doing "X -configure" to generate an x.org config
file and everything seems to be OK now.

I seem to be suffering from this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464896

I see some updates have appeared today so will keep testing and adding
info to this bug..



From gronslet at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 11:47:18 2008
From: gronslet at gmail.com (MartinG)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:47:18 +0200
Subject: Suspend/resume problems with kernel 2.6.27-3.fc10 and
	2.6.27-13.fc10 (works in kernel-2.6.27-0.398.rc9.fc10)
In-Reply-To: <48FC6BC1.7060902@googlemail.com>
References: <bcb3ef430810170302m4cf81a8fie979052526e43621@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FC6BC1.7060902@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <bcb3ef430810210447jad28797ic718227aff59f493@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Tim Lauridsen
<tim.lauridsen at googlemail.com> wrote:
> it is some intel driver related bug.
> Disable compiz and it will work again.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467332

Sure, but if I use kwin instead of compiz my desktop behaves pretty
wierd. If I for example want to resize a window, it more or less
disappears. Also, I get extra white borders around the windows. I do
not have the KDE4 desktop effects activated. I'm not sure what the
preferred options in xorg.conf for i915 graphics cards is. Any hints
appreciated.

Guess I'll stick with the old kernel until the intel driver gets updated.

-MartinG



From AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl  Tue Oct 21 13:16:52 2008
From: AJ.Werkman at digifarma.nl (A.J. Werkman)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:16:52 +0200
Subject: Network not starting after installation.
Message-ID: <48FDD644.5040105@digifarma.nl>

When I install a really basic system without any additional packages, 
NetwerkManager is not installed. The network service is installed, but 
not active. So after booting the network does not come up.

I would expect that the network service is started by default if 
NetworkManager is not installed on the system.

Regards, Koos.
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From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 21 13:43:37 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher D. Stover)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:43:37 -0500
Subject: bugzilla search page times out while loading -
	unresponsivescript
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810200430x5517a78bgf0cdaf583d1370b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FDA359.9080902@iinet.net.au>
References: <4c37b6af0810200430x5517a78bgf0cdaf583d1370b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FDA359.9080902@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DS515C5DC1766E1DE69904FD92E0@phx.gbl>

If I do a very broad search query, I get the following: "This list is too 
long for Red Hat Bugzilla's little mind; the Next/Prev/First/Last buttons 
won't appear on individual bugs."  Albeit not the best answer ever, but if 
you make more restrictive searches, it shouldn't take so long and you'll see 
less problems I think.

Chris

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Timms" <dtimms at iinet.net.au>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:39 AM
To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" 
<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: bugzilla search page times out while loading - 
unresponsivescript

> Antonio M wrote:
>> if you go to search page in Bugzilla, do you  get an error on running
>> scripts?? making bugzilla search out of use...
> some info at:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=214842
>
> My ISP has bandwidth limited my connection this month to 64kb/s. This 
> seems to have caused the show search page to
> - take about 38 secs
> - shows the unresponsive script stuff
> - click continue
> - after 12 seconds page completes.
>
> Since it seems to be time based, if you are on slower connection, it would 
> probably happen more often.
>
> Is your internet connection similarly limited.
>
> DaveT.
>
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From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 21 13:49:56 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher D. Stover)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:49:56 -0500
Subject: Unsure if bug.
In-Reply-To: <1224586609.4813.5.camel@frank-01>
References: <1224586609.4813.5.camel@frank-01>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DS3F52A444AE65F11DBAE6BD92E0@phx.gbl>

Hi Frank.  I'm a little confused by your problem.  The error you're getting 
now means: "This error message will occur if the Stage 2 or Stage 1.5 is 
being read from a hard disk, and the attempt to determine the size and 
geometry of the hard disk fails."  What do you mean by it "Will attempt to 
boot"?  Do you have an IDE hard drive you're using separate from your two 
SATA drives?  I'm guessing this is less of a bug and more a configuration 
problem with your HDs/BIOS/GRUB.

Chris

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Frank Murphy" <frankly3d at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:56 AM
To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" 
<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Subject: Unsure if bug.

> Motherboard:
> ep-8k9a71 (Epox)
> Onboard sata controller VT8237
>
> 2 Maxtor sata2 Drives connected to above.
>
> Gets to grub then "Drive Error"
> Will attempt to boot if VT8237 disabled,
> and installed to other inbuilt ide\addon ide card.
>
> Can give more details if\when necessary.
>
> Frank
>
>
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From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 15:22:52 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:22:52 +0200
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <20081021111608.GA1383@mail.scottro.net>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081021111608.GA1383@mail.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810210822h70ac86a7pc59681245744c5f3@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/21 Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com>:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:48:45PM +0200, Antonio M wrote:
>> I wonder whether for the official release of F10 I will get a decent
>> sound system on my boxes....pulseaudio seems a problem, not an asset.
>
> I've found that the easiest thing for me to do is
> yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.
>
> There are various howtos around about getting it working.  On the other
> hand, if I do that, I don't have to research any howtos, sound just
> works for me.  (I have fairly unsophisticated sound needs.  Although
> some people love pulseaudio, they all seem to do far more with audio
> programs than I do.)
>
> You can leave the rest of the pulseaudio programs alone.  That one seems
> to be the culprit.
>
>
> --
> Scott Robbins
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> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6
>
> Buffy: What should we do with the trio over here? Should we burn
> them?
> Willow: I brought marshmallows.
>
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no, if pulseaudio is to be part of Fedora, it must work.
Surprising that after three months (I had problems in F9, I still have
problems in F10) nothing has improved, and release of F10 is not far:
unless we will hear that bugs will be solved in F11 :-(
see bug 462200 for example
-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From k.parnell at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 15:22:53 2008
From: k.parnell at gmail.com (Kenny Parnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:22:53 -0400
Subject: VirtualBox and Fedora 10 - crashing all the time!?!
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810210051q113e80d8j42b216502ccc8acf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810200318u619fcd0bm7086fd65ff54aafa@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081020144845.GA28951@Aslan.redventures.net>
	<64b14b300810210051q113e80d8j42b216502ccc8acf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081021152247.GA21969@Aslan.redventures.net>

I'm using sound, but not usb.

-- 
Kenny Parnell
 

SIGIRO -- too much irony (core dumped)

 
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:51:36AM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Kenny Parnell <k.parnell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > We just got Latitude E6400s here in the office. We are running on
> > Rawhide with no problems using VirtualBox and Win XP. We did have to
> > recompile the kernel module, but other than the the rmp worked straight
> > out of the box.
> >
> > -Kenny
> 
> Just one quick question... do you have sound card inyour virtual
> machine? Do you use usb emulation for virtual machine?
> 
> Cheers,
> Valent.
> 
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From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Tue Oct 21 15:25:57 2008
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:25:57 -0500
Subject: Sound and F10 release
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org>

Antonio M wrote:

> I wonder whether for the official release of F10 I will get a decent
> sound system on my boxes....pulseaudio seems a problem, not an asset.

How is this comment relevant or constructive to a *testing* list?

That said, for me it's not pa, it seems to be the underlying drivers at
issue, ie, PA is an easy target to blame for any/all audio issues.

-- Rex




From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 15:32:09 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:32:09 +0200
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810210832y4d5484a8sfe5ef905174fed54@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/21 Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>:
> Antonio M wrote:
>
>> I wonder whether for the official release of F10 I will get a decent
>> sound system on my boxes....pulseaudio seems a problem, not an asset.
>
> How is this comment relevant or constructive to a *testing* list?
>
> That said, for me it's not pa, it seems to be the underlying drivers at
> issue, ie, PA is an easy target to blame for any/all audio issues.
>
> -- Rex
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

did you read mentioned bug??? anyway, as a tester I am not due to know
what component is to blame.
A tester reports bugs, developer repair bugs.
And before pulseaudio introduction sound system worked: this is the
point of view of a final user, that doesn't mind what is the component
(not to mention drivers) making troubles. And I repeat, final release
is not far.

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Tue Oct 21 16:04:46 2008
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:04:46 -0500
Subject: Sound and F10 release
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4c37b6af0810210832y4d5484a8sfe5ef905174fed54@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gdkuiu$vka$1@ger.gmane.org>

Antonio M wrote:

> did you read mentioned bug??? 

Yes.

> anyway, as a tester I am not due to know 
> what component is to blame.

Agreed, that's what smart maintainers/triagers are for.  

In the meantime, baseless blame on PA isn't constructive. 

-- Rex



From dennisml at conversis.de  Tue Oct 21 16:08:01 2008
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:08:01 +0200
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de>

On 10/21/2008 05:25 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Antonio M wrote:
>
>> I wonder whether for the official release of F10 I will get a decent
>> sound system on my boxes....pulseaudio seems a problem, not an asset.
>
> How is this comment relevant or constructive to a *testing* list?
>
> That said, for me it's not pa, it seems to be the underlying drivers at
> issue, ie, PA is an easy target to blame for any/all audio issues.

The Problem is that we need some sort of offical policy on what to do when 
sound works with plain alsa but not with pulseaudio. In that case blaming 
pulseaudio results in a "it's really the alsa drivers that are the problem" 
response but you can't really blame it on alsa because using just plain 
alsa works fine.

It's obvious that the specific interaction between pulseaudio and alsa is 
the problem in these cases but if neither of the stakeholders feel 
particular responsible for addressing the issue then I don't see how this 
will ever get resolved.

Regards,
   Dennis



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 16:09:21 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:09:21 +0200
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <gdkuiu$vka$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4c37b6af0810210832y4d5484a8sfe5ef905174fed54@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdkuiu$vka$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810210909p3767df9erf4ccd0f34b284d7f@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/21 Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>:
> Antonio M wrote:
>
>> did you read mentioned bug???
>
> Yes.
>
>> anyway, as a tester I am not due to know
>> what component is to blame.
>
> Agreed, that's what smart maintainers/triagers are for.
>
> In the meantime, baseless blame on PA isn't constructive.
>
> -- Rex
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

I have seen that you have joined the band on that bug :-)

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From kernel.zeng at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 16:15:02 2008
From: kernel.zeng at gmail.com (Wheelz)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:15:02 +0800
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081021161502.GA11957@Nalanda.localdomain>

I have encountered the same problem. 
Hope it can be solved before final release.


On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:48:45PM +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:48:45 +0200
> From: Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com>
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Sound and F10 release
> 
> I wonder whether for the official release of F10 I will get a decent
> sound system on my boxes....pulseaudio seems a problem, not an asset.
> -- 
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
> 
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list



From poelstra at redhat.com  Tue Oct 21 16:18:53 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:18:53 -0700
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-21 
Message-ID: <48FE00ED.1080701@redhat.com>

Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-21

Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.

== Attendees ==
* quantumburnz
* jds2001
* poelcat
* linuxguru
* inode1

== Status Updates ==
* No update on FEver bugs--poelcat will check with owner again
* Two people had questions about getting added to the ''fedorabugs'' group:
** You must have signed the CLA and request to be added to the 
''fedorabugs'' group--it doesn't happen automatically if you sign the CLA
* Still looking for more feedback on the greasemonkey scripts
** http://bashton.fedorapeople.org/bugzilla_buttons_for_fed.user.js
** poelcat reports that they are working great!

== Triage Priorities ==
* highest priority bugs to triage are here http://tinyurl.com/6llac8
** identify and add applicable bugs to the release blocker or tracker 
bug list
** identify any bugs that are RFE or feature requests--add 
''FutureFeature'' keyword
** at or around 2008-11-25 we will rebase all rawhide bugs that are 
!package reviews and !FutureFeature to version "10"
** we have quite a ways to go ~729 NEW bugs as of now

== Why Triage Bugs ==
* poelcat took an initial shot at it here: 
http://poelcat.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/why-bug-triage/
* another reason: good way to learn about Fedora and the composition of 
the distro
* poelcat to wait for more feedback and update BugZapper's wiki page 
before next meeting

== Bugzilla Maintenance ==
* background: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping
* 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/FourWeeksBeforeRelease 

* copy/paste of template just added here: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora10
* quantumburnz volunteered to help poelcat

== IRC Transcript ==



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Tue Oct 21 16:34:04 2008
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:34:04 -0500
Subject: Sound and F10 release
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de>
Message-ID: <gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>

Dennis J. wrote:

> It's obvious that the specific interaction between pulseaudio and alsa is
> the problem in these cases but if neither of the stakeholders feel
> particular responsible for addressing the issue then I don't see how this
> will ever get resolved.

Personally, I've not seen any dismissing of responsibility, and leveling
such claims doesn't seem constructive to me.

I can understand the frustration (ie, "fix it now!"), but fixing such issues
is often complex, and doing it properly is the only sane way forward.  For
better or worse, that's simply a big job and a lot of work to be done (on
all sides... testers, triagers, pkg maintainers, upstreams).

-- Rex



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 16:39:11 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:39:11 +0200
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de>
	<gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810210939r55bdfaaci1fd8785563ba1f4f@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/21 Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>:
> Dennis J. wrote:
>
>> It's obvious that the specific interaction between pulseaudio and alsa is
>> the problem in these cases but if neither of the stakeholders feel
>> particular responsible for addressing the issue then I don't see how this
>> will ever get resolved.
>
> Personally, I've not seen any dismissing of responsibility, and leveling
> such claims doesn't seem constructive to me.
>
> I can understand the frustration (ie, "fix it now!"), but fixing such issues
> is often complex, and doing it properly is the only sane way forward.  For
> better or worse, that's simply a big job and a lot of work to be done (on
> all sides... testers, triagers, pkg maintainers, upstreams).
>
> -- Rex
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>


this bug is not young, and it was already reported in F9, that
probably means that sound system has not been working in Fedora for at
least 3 months...do you know any modern OS where sound system is
bugged and you cant' play music or listen to radio???? or shall we
think that multimedia will be dropped??? let me know ....if you plan a
Release day, sound system is a must...
-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Tue Oct 21 16:53:53 2008
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:53:53 -0500
Subject: Sound and F10 release
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de>
	<gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4c37b6af0810210939r55bdfaaci1fd8785563ba1f4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gdl1f1$bfs$1@ger.gmane.org>

Antonio M wrote:

> this bug is not young, and it was already reported in F9, that
> probably means that sound system has not been working in Fedora for at
> least 3 months...

And we're back to broad generalizations again.  Know what?  Sounds works for
a large number folks (me included, for the most part).  One might even say
a vast majority of people, but I won't. :)

Is everything perfect? No.  Can it be better?  You betcha.

-- Rex



From mclasen at redhat.com  Tue Oct 21 16:59:54 2008
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:59:54 -0400
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810210939r55bdfaaci1fd8785563ba1f4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de>
	<gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4c37b6af0810210939r55bdfaaci1fd8785563ba1f4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224608394.3344.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 18:39 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> 2008/10/21 Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>:
> > Dennis J. wrote:
> >
> >> It's obvious that the specific interaction between pulseaudio and alsa is
> >> the problem in these cases but if neither of the stakeholders feel
> >> particular responsible for addressing the issue then I don't see how this
> >> will ever get resolved.
> >
> > Personally, I've not seen any dismissing of responsibility, and leveling
> > such claims doesn't seem constructive to me.
> >
> > I can understand the frustration (ie, "fix it now!"), but fixing such issues
> > is often complex, and doing it properly is the only sane way forward.  For
> > better or worse, that's simply a big job and a lot of work to be done (on
> > all sides... testers, triagers, pkg maintainers, upstreams).
> >
> > -- Rex
> >
> > --
> > fedora-test-list mailing list
> > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe:
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> >
> 
> 
> this bug is not young, and it was already reported in F9, that
> probably means that sound system has not been working in Fedora for at
> least 3 months...do you know any modern OS where sound system is
> bugged and you cant' play music or listen to radio???? or shall we
> think that multimedia will be dropped??? let me know ....if you plan a
> Release day, sound system is a must...

These blanket statements don't help anything. 

I have personally played plenty of music on F9 and rawhide machines, so
the sound system is working just fine, right ?

As to the 'alsa works fine, pa doesn't' issue: pa, in particular the
glitch-free stuff, is using parts of the alsa api that your regular
alsa-using app is not touching, and that are therefore less well tested
and expose more driver bugs.  


Matthias





From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 17:25:05 2008
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:25:05 -0400
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <1224608394.3344.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de>
	<gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4c37b6af0810210939r55bdfaaci1fd8785563ba1f4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224608394.3344.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0810211025l560ee33di820e9371120a264f@mail.gmail.com>

> On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 18:39 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
>
> > this bug is not young, and it was already reported in F9, that
> > probably means that sound system has not been working in Fedora for at
> > least 3 months...do you know any modern OS where sound system is
> > bugged and you cant' play music or listen to radio???? or shall we
> > think that multimedia will be dropped??? let me know ....if you plan a
> > Release day, sound system is a must...


Unfortunately, I have to agree with Antonio...
I'm currently still using F8 (because I didn't see a compelling
reason to migrate to F9) but I _am_ evaluating and testing F10.

I (personally) have a few pre-requisites that make F10 a go/no-go
decision:

1/ KDE 4.x must work at least as good as good as 3.x.  But its not there!
   (Gnome is a non-runner for me.)
  a) double clicking the menu icon does not kill the app (even thought
     the option is enabled.)
  b) the (re-written) calendar tasklet still doesn't support the
     multi-timezone display that the old version does.  And its popup
     calendar disappears as soon as you click anywhere else on the screen
    (making the calendar next to worthless, and definately a major pain in
     the *&&%^%$#^%)
  c) the newsticker writes all over the taskbar, and doesn't seem to be
     controlable.

2/ I need to wait until there are more KDE themes available (like in 3.5 so
   I can find a usable one.)  I once read that if you see a 'black' based
   web page/theme, it was probably created by someone under 20 years old.
   Well I'm now over 50, and I'd like an easier to see' theme!  Black with
   chrome'y highlights does not make it easy to look at.

3/ Start-up sound breaks up/stutters.  If its that bad on startup, I'm
   not even going to test any other sound application.  :-(

Perhaps most of my complaints are about KDE... I don't know.
But right now, at least for me... and probably others (like Antonio)
F10 isn't (really) usable for any number of reasons.

And before you ask... no I haven't filed bugs on these items, because
I've gotten jaded with the process; when... 2 years and 3 releases after
submitting a bugzilla entry, I keep getting emails: '...try it again on
the most recent release... Yes, it still fails...' that I have to ask...
why bother?

Sorry for the rant.

Frustrated, but not giving up hope yet...
(and _my_ sound doesn't work right either...)

Fulko
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From fastie81 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 19:04:13 2008
From: fastie81 at gmail.com (Fastie)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:04:13 +1300
Subject: VirtualBox and Fedora 10 - crashing all the time!?!
In-Reply-To: <20081021152247.GA21969@Aslan.redventures.net>
References: <64b14b300810200318u619fcd0bm7086fd65ff54aafa@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081020144845.GA28951@Aslan.redventures.net>
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	<20081021152247.GA21969@Aslan.redventures.net>
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Hi
I know this maybe small but you may want to look at you winodws install see
if it goes into standby.
I found this with a few VM.
Cause I have been running VBox for a few weeks and had the suspend problem
and found that windows goes into standby then suspend.
Chris


On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Kenny Parnell <k.parnell at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm using sound, but not usb.
>
> --
> Kenny Parnell
>
>
> SIGIRO -- too much irony (core dumped)
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:51:36AM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Kenny Parnell <k.parnell at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > We just got Latitude E6400s here in the office. We are running on
> > > Rawhide with no problems using VirtualBox and Win XP. We did have to
> > > recompile the kernel module, but other than the the rmp worked straight
> > > out of the box.
> > >
> > > -Kenny
> >
> > Just one quick question... do you have sound card inyour virtual
> > machine? Do you use usb emulation for virtual machine?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Valent.
> >
> > --
> > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/
> > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless
> > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
> .
> > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic
> >
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From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue Oct 21 19:14:32 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:14:32 -0400
Subject: F10-Snapshot-X86_64-KDE
In-Reply-To: <78323d480810191914l1baf39cclc809bc1a22c5519c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480810120844y7461c7adheadf490e9f27c22a@mail.gmail.com>	<78323d480810181532l499a778do9d7590ca1b85303a@mail.gmail.com>	<48FBCEBC.7050307@tmr.com>
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Mani A wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>>> All other problems seem to be fixed in snapshot-2, except for
>>> automatic detection of display resolution.
>>>
>> I'm not worried about "automatic detection," is there any way at all to tell
>> the system to use more than 640x480 (800x600 on one system)? The nice tab
>> for defining monitor resolution is gone, replaced with nothing I have found.
> 
> In the boot screen
> Press esc, then tab
> add resolution=1600x1200 as a boot option
> 
> and any other 'boot time kernel option' that may be relevant.
> 
> On radeon HD 36xx cards, too the radeon driver works 'out of box'
> 
What I have is this (from lspci):
   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 
series] (rev 9e)
   01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 Series] 
(rev 9e)

>> 640x480 on a 1600x1200 or 1920x1080 monitor is very readable, probably from
>> 100 yards away without optics. I've given up testing for the moment, nothing
>> I really want to test runs, even in 800x600.
> 
> Best
> 
> A. Mani
> 
> 


-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From davidsen at tmr.com  Tue Oct 21 19:19:45 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:19:45 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap2, i686 LIve
In-Reply-To: <1224549313.13204.136.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <48FC874A.6030706@redhat.com> <48FCFE82.8090907@tmr.com>
	<1224549313.13204.136.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <48FE2B51.50507@tmr.com>

Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 17:56 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> Bryan Kearney wrote:
>>> I downloaded the i686 Live image this morning (Mon, 20 october).. and 
>>> the latest ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script from Jeremy's fedora page. I 
>>> built the card with the command line below.
>>>
>>> ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
>>> 512 --swap-size-mb 512 Fedora-10-Snap2-i686-Live/F10-Snap2-i686-Live.iso 
>>> /dev/sdb1
>>>
>> Nice. Now where does one find a working "latest" version of the script?  I 
>> looked in what I thought was the obvious place, see that attachment, nothing found.
> 
> As mentioned on the testing wiki page[1],
> http://katzj.fedorapeople.org/olpc/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh is kept current
> and usually just a little bit ahead of git
> 
I was looking in http://katzj.fedorapeople.org based on a mention of "Jeremy's 
fedorapeople page" and found it now. Thanks.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From dennisml at conversis.de  Tue Oct 21 19:38:10 2008
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:38:10 +0200
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de> <gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <48FE2FA2.704@conversis.de>

On 10/21/2008 06:34 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Dennis J. wrote:
>
>> It's obvious that the specific interaction between pulseaudio and alsa is
>> the problem in these cases but if neither of the stakeholders feel
>> particular responsible for addressing the issue then I don't see how this
>> will ever get resolved.
>
> Personally, I've not seen any dismissing of responsibility, and leveling
> such claims doesn't seem constructive to me.

I filed bug #428537 when my card stopped working after an PA update and 
that report got dismissed with "There's something wrong with your ALSA. Try 
if upgrading ALSA fixes your problems." by the PA maintainer. It didn't and 
I pointed that out but got no further response.

That sounds fairly dismissive to me.

> I can understand the frustration (ie, "fix it now!"), but fixing such issues
> is often complex, and doing it properly is the only sane way forward.

I didn't say "fix it now!" and my point is precisely that these bugs cannot 
be fixed if there is nobody to report them to. If the PA maintainers 
immediately dismiss this as an alsa problem an there is really no decent 
bug that can be filed against alsa because alsa by itself works just fine 
then how am I supposed to report issues like these?

Given that these problem deal with the interaction of two different 
subsystems I would like to see the maintainers of these subsystems to come 
to some kind of understanding what to do in these cases. If the PA guys 
want to deal with this fine, if the ALSA guys want to deal with this fine 
too but right now there seems to be nobody to go to for this stuff.

Regards,
   Dennis



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 20:20:56 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:20:56 +0200
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <48FE2FA2.704@conversis.de>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de>
	<gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FE2FA2.704@conversis.de>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810211320h5ddcb252ke7812a6f1708fdd5@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/21 Dennis J. <dennisml at conversis.de>:
> On 10/21/2008 06:34 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>
>> Dennis J. wrote:
>>
>>> It's obvious that the specific interaction between pulseaudio and alsa is
>>> the problem in these cases but if neither of the stakeholders feel
>>> particular responsible for addressing the issue then I don't see how this
>>> will ever get resolved.
>>
>> Personally, I've not seen any dismissing of responsibility, and leveling
>> such claims doesn't seem constructive to me.
>
> I filed bug #428537 when my card stopped working after an PA update and that
> report got dismissed with "There's something wrong with your ALSA. Try if
> upgrading ALSA fixes your problems." by the PA maintainer. It didn't and I
> pointed that out but got no further response.
>
> That sounds fairly dismissive to me.
>
>> I can understand the frustration (ie, "fix it now!"), but fixing such
>> issues
>> is often complex, and doing it properly is the only sane way forward.
>
> I didn't say "fix it now!" and my point is precisely that these bugs cannot
> be fixed if there is nobody to report them to. If the PA maintainers
> immediately dismiss this as an alsa problem an there is really no decent bug
> that can be filed against alsa because alsa by itself works just fine then
> how am I supposed to report issues like these?
>
> Given that these problem deal with the interaction of two different
> subsystems I would like to see the maintainers of these subsystems to come
> to some kind of understanding what to do in these cases. If the PA guys want
> to deal with this fine, if the ALSA guys want to deal with this fine too but
> right now there seems to be nobody to go to for this stuff.
>
> Regards,
>  Dennis
>
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>

have a look to activities on related packages (pulseaudio and alsa...)

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 22:53:17 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:23:17 +0530
Subject: F10-Snapshot-X86_64-KDE
In-Reply-To: <48FE2A18.1030302@tmr.com>
References: <78323d480810120844y7461c7adheadf490e9f27c22a@mail.gmail.com>
	<78323d480810181532l499a778do9d7590ca1b85303a@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FBCEBC.7050307@tmr.com>
	<78323d480810191914l1baf39cclc809bc1a22c5519c@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FE2A18.1030302@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <78323d480810211553q6cebe19r4d8643ceb1f9da16@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
> Mani A wrote:
>> In the boot screen
>> Press esc, then tab
>> add resolution=1600x1200 as a boot option
>>
>> and any other 'boot time kernel option' that may be relevant.
>>
>> On radeon HD 36xx cards, too the radeon driver works 'out of box'

> What I have is this (from lspci):
>  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650
> series] (rev 9e)
>  01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650
> Series] (rev 9e)
>

It should work well with driver radeonhd and possibly radeon

Check man radeon

Boot to runlevel 3, modprobe radeonhd,
create a suitable xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 (copy from sda for eg)
Then 'startkde'  (no options allowed)

Repeat with 'radeon'


Best

A. Mani



-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From robk at ningaui.net  Tue Oct 21 23:34:06 2008
From: robk at ningaui.net (Rob K)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:34:06 +1100
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810211320h5ddcb252ke7812a6f1708fdd5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de>
	<gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FE2FA2.704@conversis.de>
	<4c37b6af0810211320h5ddcb252ke7812a6f1708fdd5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <352bdb60810211634g35aad244y4b55b6066011eb1f@mail.gmail.com>

Useless data point: PA has been nothing but success for me - it was
only with the introduction of PA that my USB headsets began working
for me. I've only ever had one wrinkle; The volume keys on my HP
DV2000 arguing with the volume applet, but it's no biggie. Sound
quality has improved also, less popping and clicking.

-- 
Rob K
http://ningaui.net
I swear, if I collected all seven dragonballs,
I'd bring back Jon Postel. - Raph



From clive at vacuumtube.org.uk  Wed Oct 22 01:31:12 2008
From: clive at vacuumtube.org.uk (Clive Messer)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:31:12 +0100
Subject: Sound and F10 release
In-Reply-To: <gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4c37b6af0810210348m3f12d837q9291417bb380d9fd@mail.gmail.com>
	<gdksa5$ll5$1@ger.gmane.org> <48FDFE61.4070208@conversis.de>
	<gdl09t$55l$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1224639072.8404.55.camel@pc343.objectsoft-systems.ltd.uk>


On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 11:34 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Dennis J. wrote:
> 
> > It's obvious that the specific interaction between pulseaudio and alsa is
> > the problem in these cases but if neither of the stakeholders feel
> > particular responsible for addressing the issue then I don't see how this
> > will ever get resolved.
> 
> Personally, I've not seen any dismissing of responsibility, and leveling
> such claims doesn't seem constructive to me.
> 
> I can understand the frustration (ie, "fix it now!"), but fixing such issues
> is often complex, and doing it properly is the only sane way forward.  For
> better or worse, that's simply a big job and a lot of work to be done (on
> all sides... testers, triagers, pkg maintainers, upstreams).

Rex,

Agree that doing it properly is usually the right way to proceed, rather
than a quick hack. But a little voice inside my head wonders why
pulseaudio cannot code a little more defensively around its calls to
alsa lib functions, (in this case snd_pcm_mmap_playback_avail), to deal
with the buggy numbers returned that currently send it into an infinite
loop and shutdown. An audio glitch and a log message would be infinitely
preferable to pulseaudio shutting down and needing to be restarted. Yes,
the bug is further up the chain from pulseaudio, but as it is pulseaudio
that is first in the firing line for any Fedora audio issue...... 

P.S. This is not a criticism of pulseaudio. I think it's great software.
The ability to move streams between audio hardware and networked audio,
make it a winner as far as I'm concerned. So please excuse me if I'm
speaking out of turn.

Regards

Clive
- 
Clive Messer <clive at vacuumtube.org.uk>







From skunkworx at verizon.net  Wed Oct 22 02:12:34 2008
From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:12:34 -0700
Subject: kernel nfsd error
Message-ID: <48FE8C12.8030403@verizon.net>

We've been running tests using our "ion" driver and card. That's where 
the "ion" module comes from.

Things have been going well, expect today this came up. It's been a few 
days of NFS mounts/umounts on and off, then this.

Not sure how much good it does posting the text when our module is 
inserted into the kernel.

------------[ cut here ]------------
kernel BUG at include/linux/module.h:395!
invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP
Modules linked in: vfat fat nfsd lockd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss sunrpc
exportfs fuse ipv6 loop dm_multipath video ion output e752x_edac
edac_core e1000 pcspkr sr_mod usb_storage cdrom iTCO_wdt
iTCO_vendor_support dcdbas sg dm_snapshot dm_zero dm_mirror dm_log
dm_mod pata_acpi ata_piix ata_generic libata sd_mod scsi_mod ext3 jbd
mbcache uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded: nf_conntrack]

Pid: 6498, comm: nfsd Not tainted (2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 #1)
EIP: 0060:[<f8e459ef>] EFLAGS: 00010246 CPU: 0
EIP is at svc_recv+0x387/0x698 [sunrpc]
EAX: 00000000 EBX: f8e55d00 ECX: f8e55d00 EDX: 00001000
ESI: eb13a400 EDI: ec829800 EBP: e4f3dfb0 ESP: e4f3df78
  DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0000 SS: 0068
Process nfsd (pid: 6498, ti=e4f3d000 task=ed2d0000 task.ti=e4f3d000)
Stack: 0036ee80 f7267000 eb13a400 eb11cf80 eb11c680 c0720fb8 00000000
ed2d0000
        c0420d90 00100100 00200200 ec56c900 f931af74 f7267000 e4f3dfe0
f930163f
        f930156b 00000000 f7267000 fffffeff ffffffff fffffef8 ffffffff
f930156b
Call Trace:
  [<c0420d90>] ? default_wake_function+0x0/0xd
  [<f930163f>] ? nfsd+0xd4/0x273 [nfsd]
  [<f930156b>] ? nfsd+0x0/0x273 [nfsd]
  [<f930156b>] ? nfsd+0x0/0x273 [nfsd]
  [<c0405837>] ? kernel_thread_helper+0x7/0x10
  =======================



From frankly3d at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 03:33:54 2008
From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:33:54 +0100
Subject: Unsure if bug.
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-DS3F52A444AE65F11DBAE6BD92E0@phx.gbl>
References: <1224586609.4813.5.camel@frank-01>
	<BAY124-DS3F52A444AE65F11DBAE6BD92E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1224646434.2584.19.camel@frank-01>

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 08:49 -0500, Christopher D. Stover wrote:
> Hi Frank.  I'm a little confused by your problem.  The error you're getting 
> now means: "This error message will occur if the Stage 2 or Stage 1.5 is 
> being read from a hard disk, and the attempt to determine the size and 
> geometry of the hard disk fails."  What do you mean by it "Will attempt to 
> boot"?  Do you have an IDE hard drive you're using separate from your two 
> SATA drives?  I'm guessing this is less of a bug and more a configuration 
> problem with your HDs/BIOS/GRUB.
> 
> Chris

Scenario A

1: In the box there is inbuilt the 2 usual ide 1 & 2 controllers. (2
disks, 160gb each)

2: The inbuilt sata  raid controller ( 2 disks: sata2, 160gb each)
3: an add-in ide raid controller (2 disks, 320gb each)
4: 1 external USB-CDrom

If OS is installed to 1:, with 2: disabled in bios, it will boot
normally, as soft raid md0 

Bios boot order: 1:a, 1:b.  (3: mounted as md3)


Scenario B 
(Numerals: as above)

If I enable 2: 
and install as md0 (previous md0 [1:] having been wiped)
I get the grub error.

With bios boot set to: 2:a, 2:b.

Any combination of install, 
with the internal sata controller enabled fails to boot.

ie: install 1: as md0, plus 2: as md1 (file-store)


Have tried manually changing grub.conf to boot (hd0,0) to other
combinations, to no avail.

Booting from livecd (F10 snap 1+2) shows all six drives.
and four if 2:(inbuilt sata) is disabled

Including 


Frank






From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 05:40:41 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:40:41 +0200
Subject: Bug 466675 - keyboard layout not correctly detected should be
	re-opened
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810212240v27850e6br4786d5e4f30599f1@mail.gmail.com>

 Bug 466675 -  keyboard layout not correctly detected

This morning when I log in I decide as usual to have italian as my
session language (as I live in Italy)....well when I am logged I find
that the first language is USA and not Ita.
Same if I log out and log in again...

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 06:26:36 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (kwhiskerz)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:26:36 -0600
Subject: Help: Perplexing NetworkManager Problem
Message-ID: <gdmh2u$i50$1@ger.gmane.org>

Something keeps changing the HWaddr of eth0 to 00:00:00:00:00:00 after every boot, so when I restart the computer, NetworkManager cannot connect.

ifconfig eth0 shows HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00!!!
I set it correctly manually and I can connect, then after reboot, same all over again.

NetworkManager creates automatic wired entries called Auto Ethernet, System Ethernet and the like, but they have no HWaddr in them. When I put the real one in and reboot, they are set to all zeros, or are blank.

I have tried setting these autogenerated entries to either use the System Setting, or not, but the result is the same.

I have checked in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, but the HWaddr is correct there.

Also, it keeps putting a Search= and DNS1= line into ifcfg-eth0, which it never did prior to the last update (NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4175), which isn't a problem in itself, but this causes selinux to act up, flagging a need to restorecon on ifcfg-eth0 (which also never happened prior to selinux-policy-targeted-3.5.13-2). Nevertheless, selinux is not preventing a connection, but could it be forcing the HWaddr to zero all the time?



From dtimms at iinet.net.au  Wed Oct 22 07:44:03 2008
From: dtimms at iinet.net.au (David Timms)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:44:03 +1100
Subject: Help: Perplexing NetworkManager Problem
In-Reply-To: <gdmh2u$i50$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gdmh2u$i50$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <48FED9C3.5060106@iinet.net.au>

kwhiskerz wrote:
> I have checked in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, but the
> HWaddr is correct there.
ls -lZ /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

> Also, it keeps putting a Search= and DNS1= line into ifcfg-eth0,
> which it never did prior to the last update
> (NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4175), which isn't a problem in itself,
> but this causes selinux to act up, flagging a need to restorecon on
> ifcfg-eth0 (which also never happened prior to
> selinux-policy-targeted-3.5.13-2). 
avc error, please...

> Nevertheless, selinux is not
> preventing a connection, but could it be forcing the HWaddr to zero
> all the time?
Maybe it is disallowing the software that normally sets the hwaddr from 
setting it ?

DaveT.



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct 22 09:47:33 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:47:33 +0000
Subject: Bug 466675 - keyboard layout not correctly detected should be
 re-opened
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810212240v27850e6br4786d5e4f30599f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c37b6af0810212240v27850e6br4786d5e4f30599f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FEF6B5.70905@hi.is>

Antonio M wrote:
>  Bug 466675 -  keyboard layout not correctly detected
>
> This morning when I log in I decide as usual to have italian as my
> session language (as I live in Italy)....well when I am logged I find
> that the first language is USA and not Ita.
> Same if I log out and log in again...
>
>   
I think this is fixed...

"gdm-2.24.0-11.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 1:2.24.0-11
- Respect system keyboard setting"


which gdm are you using...

JBG
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From alan at redhat.com  Wed Oct 22 09:53:31 2008
From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:53:31 -0400
Subject: Help: Perplexing NetworkManager Problem
In-Reply-To: <gdmh2u$i50$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gdmh2u$i50$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20081022095331.GA12556@shell.devel.redhat.com>

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:26:36AM -0600, kwhiskerz wrote:
> ifconfig eth0 shows HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00!!!
> I set it correctly manually and I can connect, then after reboot, same all over again.
> 
> NetworkManager creates automatic wired entries called Auto Ethernet, System Ethernet and the like, but they have no HWaddr in them. When I put the real one in and reboot, they are set to all zeros, or are blank.

Network manager has many problems and sins but if the hw addr is being reported
as all zeroes that is almost certainly a kernel driver bug. Please file a bug
against the kernel and report which network driver and hardware you are
using.

Alan



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 10:08:24 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:08:24 +0200
Subject: Bug 466675 - keyboard layout not correctly detected should be
	re-opened
In-Reply-To: <48FEF6B5.70905@hi.is>
References: <4c37b6af0810212240v27850e6br4786d5e4f30599f1@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FEF6B5.70905@hi.is>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810220308q51e46b36yf4ab47799fc73afd@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/22 "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" <johannbg at hi.is>:
> Antonio M wrote:
>>
>>  Bug 466675 -  keyboard layout not correctly detected
>>
>> This morning when I log in I decide as usual to have italian as my
>> session language (as I live in Italy)....well when I am logged I find
>> that the first language is USA and not Ita.
>> Same if I log out and log in again...
>>
>>
>
> I think this is fixed...
>
> "gdm-2.24.0-11.fc10
> ------------------
> * Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> -
> 1:2.24.0-11
> - Respect system keyboard setting"
>
>
> which gdm are you using...
>
> JBG
>
> --
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

same gdm.
And if I choose Ita in the login screen I get USA after login and I
have to add Italian keyboard in the panel.
I think that solving the problem should be easy. another day has gone
before release ;-)

-- 
Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 10:58:44 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:58:44 +0200
Subject: VirtualBox and Fedora 10 - crashing all the time!?!
In-Reply-To: <93f25c220810211204x66287dfdy9e5c18a501190b3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810200318u619fcd0bm7086fd65ff54aafa@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081020144845.GA28951@Aslan.redventures.net>
	<64b14b300810210051q113e80d8j42b216502ccc8acf@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081021152247.GA21969@Aslan.redventures.net>
	<93f25c220810211204x66287dfdy9e5c18a501190b3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810220358k58486f68g1ef2543b25fa96f2@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Fastie <fastie81 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
> I know this maybe small but you may want to look at you winodws install see
> if it goes into standby.
> I found this with a few VM.
> Cause I have been running VBox for a few weeks and had the suspend problem
> and found that windows goes into standby then suspend.
> Chris

I disabled sound and usb and for now it seams that the system has
stabilized, I also switched power management profile to "always on"
just to be sure ;)

Thanks for all your tips.

Valent.


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From jcastro at redhat.com  Wed Oct 22 11:21:10 2008
From: jcastro at redhat.com (Jehudi Castro)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:21:10 +0200
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>
	<48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com>

XO laptops arrived to the Czech Republic.

Marco Rhodes wrote:
> Hi all -
>
> Just wanted to give a quick update on  where I am with testing.
>
> I saw the message about needing the 4GB SD card a bit late. As someone 
> else pointed out in another thread, Circuit City has no problem taking 
> the 2 GB card back for a full refund (within 30 days). Problem is, 
> they stopped selling the 4GB version. So I will be ordering mine 
> online and will rush the shipment so that I can get in on the fun.
>
> I did update my XO and have received my dev key. The updated interface 
> is very nice.  No problems connecting to my WPA2 network at home either.
>
> Thanks,
>
>  =MR=
>
>
> Marco Rhodes wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> I received my XO late Thursday and will be gearing up to begin 
>> testing starting Monday.
>> During the day, I am a member of Red Hat's Support Engineering Group 
>> with a emphasis on Identity Management/PKI.
>>
>> When all is said and done, my 6 year old son will be a *very* happy 
>> kid. He already has an older Thinkpad 570 that runs a lightweight 
>> Linux distro complete with TuxPaint and the Childsplay suite. So, 
>> imagine how cool the XO will be!
>>
>> Looking forward to working with you all.
>>
>>  =MR=
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks.
>>>
>>> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you 
>>> can respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO 
>>> and a brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite 
>>> a bit, so let's all get to know each other.
>>>
>>> A reminder on getting started: see...
>>>
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>>>
>>> --g
>>>



From gerrytool at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 13:32:47 2008
From: gerrytool at gmail.com (Gerry Tool)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:32:47 -0500
Subject: Fedora 10 Beta boot makes loud pop in speakers
Message-ID: <c77266e40810220632r424f2d75pe367e151e2f26053@mail.gmail.com>

Every time I start F10beta, I get a couple of loud pops from my
speakers as the boot progress bar moves across the screen.  It is
annoying, but I'm also concerned about damage to the speakers since it
is so loud.

Do others experience this?

What element should I post a bug against?

What system data would be useful to identify the component that may be
incompatible?

Thanks.  Gerry



From kernel.zeng at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 13:45:21 2008
From: kernel.zeng at gmail.com (Wheelz)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:45:21 +0800
Subject: Fedora 10 Beta boot makes loud pop in speakers
In-Reply-To: <c77266e40810220632r424f2d75pe367e151e2f26053@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c77266e40810220632r424f2d75pe367e151e2f26053@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081022134521.GA13963@Nalanda.localdomain>

I get one pop from speaker when suspending to ram and resuming afterwards

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 08:32:47AM -0500, Gerry Tool wrote:
> 
> Every time I start F10beta, I get a couple of loud pops from my
> speakers as the boot progress bar moves across the screen.  It is
> annoying, but I'm also concerned about damage to the speakers since it
> is so loud.
> 
> Do others experience this?
> 
> What element should I post a bug against?
> 
> What system data would be useful to identify the component that may be
> incompatible?
> 
> Thanks.  Gerry
> 
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list



From bressers at redhat.com  Wed Oct 22 13:53:29 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:53:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Actually using Fedora on your XO
In-Reply-To: <106405030.2406561224683427700.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <558206111.2407691224683609705.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

So now that it seems we can all install and mostly boot the XO iwth Fedora 10, can
anyone else actually use anything?

I find the applications on this spin to be a bit of a letdown (they're all quite
resource intense), and even when I shut off most services and gnome things, there
isn't enough ram to actually do much (one Firefox instance takes care of what RAM
is left).

The best I could do last night was to drop RAM usage to a point where there was
about 86 Megs free.  Firefox will gladly eat all this away though.

So just for fun I tried out the F10 XFCE spin.  It runs quite nicely, from a performance perspective, it's acceptable with no changes.

So here are my thoughts and fears.

If we go with the F10 GNOME spin, there will be two likely reactions from users:

If the user knows Fedora, they'll probably get annoyed they paid extra for their SD
card because it's so slow.

If they don't know Fedora, they're going to assume Fedora is a fat slow pig and
sucks.

The more I try to slim this down, the more frustrated I'm getting, and I like to
think I'm a bit smarter than the average bear here.  Is there a reason we HAVE to
use the GNOME spin for this, or can other options be considered?

-- 
    JB



From dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com  Wed Oct 22 14:14:39 2008
From: dsyates at lottalinuxlinks.com (dave yates)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:14:39 -0400
Subject: Actually using Fedora on your XO
In-Reply-To: <558206111.2407691224683609705.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <106405030.2406561224683427700.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<558206111.2407691224683609705.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <db34c1810810220714n429be2f0gc33316a3035683af@mail.gmail.com>

I agree completely. I think openbox with lxpanel, or just plain lxde is a
much better option.Openbox with lxpanel, and dillo runs quite nicely.


On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Josh Bressers <bressers at redhat.com> wrote:

> So now that it seems we can all install and mostly boot the XO iwth Fedora
> 10, can
> anyone else actually use anything?
>
> I find the applications on this spin to be a bit of a letdown (they're all
> quite
> resource intense), and even when I shut off most services and gnome things,
> there
> isn't enough ram to actually do much (one Firefox instance takes care of
> what RAM
> is left).
>
> The best I could do last night was to drop RAM usage to a point where there
> was
> about 86 Megs free.  Firefox will gladly eat all this away though.
>
> So just for fun I tried out the F10 XFCE spin.  It runs quite nicely, from
> a performance perspective, it's acceptable with no changes.
>
> So here are my thoughts and fears.
>
> If we go with the F10 GNOME spin, there will be two likely reactions from
> users:
>
> If the user knows Fedora, they'll probably get annoyed they paid extra for
> their SD
> card because it's so slow.
>
> If they don't know Fedora, they're going to assume Fedora is a fat slow pig
> and
> sucks.
>
> The more I try to slim this down, the more frustrated I'm getting, and I
> like to
> think I'm a bit smarter than the average bear here.  Is there a reason we
> HAVE to
> use the GNOME spin for this, or can other options be considered?
>
> --
>    JB
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>



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blog: http://lottalinuxlinks.com/blog
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From tom.horsley at att.net  Wed Oct 22 14:35:47 2008
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:35:47 -0400
Subject: Fedora 10 Beta boot makes loud pop in speakers
In-Reply-To: <c77266e40810220632r424f2d75pe367e151e2f26053@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c77266e40810220632r424f2d75pe367e151e2f26053@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081022103547.000a9add@zooty>

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:32:47 -0500
"Gerry Tool" <gerrytool at gmail.com> wrote:

> Do others experience this?
> 
> What element should I post a bug against?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446535

You could chime in on that bugzilla. I first noticed it
in fedora 9, then later after a kernel update for fedora 8
and I guess it hasn't improved in f10.



From pribyl at lowlevel.cz  Wed Oct 22 14:36:18 2008
From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:36:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: bugzilla search page times out while loading -
 unresponsivescript
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-DS515C5DC1766E1DE69904FD92E0@phx.gbl>
References: <4c37b6af0810200430x5517a78bgf0cdaf583d1370b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FDA359.9080902@iinet.net.au>
	<BAY124-DS515C5DC1766E1DE69904FD92E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0810221632420.3855@sandbox.cz>

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Christopher D. Stover wrote:

> If I do a very broad search query, I get the following: "This list is too 
> long for Red Hat Bugzilla's little mind; the Next/Prev/First/Last buttons 
> won't appear on individual bugs."  Albeit not the best answer ever, but if 
> you make more restrictive searches, it shouldn't take so long and you'll see 
> less problems I think.
>
> Chris

This has nothing to do with buzilla search itself, it is a known problem 
with javascript and the amount of options on the search page. Already 
discussed several time, bugged several times, but no improvement. The page 
gets unresponsive script message even on fast lines and fast CPU.. this is 
just a page bloat hitting everybody working with bugzilla.

Adam Pribyl




From radekvokal at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 14:38:01 2008
From: radekvokal at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UmFkZWsgVm9rw6Fs?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:38:01 +0200
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>	<48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
	<48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48FF3AC9.1060402@gmail.com>

Got mine ..

Radek

Jehudi Castro wrote:
> XO laptops arrived to the Czech Republic.
> 
> Marco Rhodes wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> Just wanted to give a quick update on  where I am with testing.
>>
>> I saw the message about needing the 4GB SD card a bit late. As someone
>> else pointed out in another thread, Circuit City has no problem taking
>> the 2 GB card back for a full refund (within 30 days). Problem is,
>> they stopped selling the 4GB version. So I will be ordering mine
>> online and will rush the shipment so that I can get in on the fun.
>>
>> I did update my XO and have received my dev key. The updated interface
>> is very nice.  No problems connecting to my WPA2 network at home either.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  =MR=
>>
>>
>> Marco Rhodes wrote:
>>> Hi all -
>>>
>>> I received my XO late Thursday and will be gearing up to begin
>>> testing starting Monday.
>>> During the day, I am a member of Red Hat's Support Engineering Group
>>> with a emphasis on Identity Management/PKI.
>>>
>>> When all is said and done, my 6 year old son will be a *very* happy
>>> kid. He already has an older Thinkpad 570 that runs a lightweight
>>> Linux distro complete with TuxPaint and the Childsplay suite. So,
>>> imagine how cool the XO will be!
>>>
>>> Looking forward to working with you all.
>>>
>>>  =MR=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>
>>>> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you
>>>> can respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO
>>>> and a brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite
>>>> a bit, so let's all get to know each other.
>>>>
>>>> A reminder on getting started: see...
>>>>
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>>>>
>>>> --g
>>>>
> 



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 15:38:06 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (kwhiskerz)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:38:06 -0600
Subject: Help: Perplexing NetworkManager Problem
References: <gdmh2u$i50$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<20081022095331.GA12556@shell.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <gdnhcu$7br$1@ger.gmane.org>

Alan Cox wrote:

> Network manager has many problems and sins but if the hw addr is being
> reported as all zeroes that is almost certainly a kernel driver bug.
> Please file a bug against the kernel and report which network driver and
> hardware you are using.
> 
> Alan
> 
You are right! My bad. In my eagerness to get the latest Intel 2.5.0 graphic driver from koji (finally I can use kwin compositing, again!), I accidentally installed the kernel from koji, too. When I went back to the latest released kernel-2.6.27.3-30.rc1.fc10.i686, all was back to normal.
Thanks!



From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 22 16:30:58 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher D. Stover)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:30:58 -0500
Subject: bugzilla search page times out while loading -
	unresponsivescript
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810200430x5517a78bgf0cdaf583d1370b3@mail.gmail.com><48FDA359.9080902@iinet.net.au><BAY124-DS515C5DC1766E1DE69904FD92E0@phx.gbl>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810221632420.3855@sandbox.cz>
References: <4c37b6af0810200430x5517a78bgf0cdaf583d1370b3@mail.gmail.com><48FDA359.9080902@iinet.net.au><BAY124-DS515C5DC1766E1DE69904FD92E0@phx.gbl>
	<alpine.DEB.1.00.0810221632420.3855@sandbox.cz>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DS13552A1B00E2D75F258A3D9290@phx.gbl>

I misunderstood the problem before.  I played with bugzilla a lot yesterday 
and I definitely agree the problem you describe is rather annoying, to say 
the least, and something should definitely be done to fix it.

Chris

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Adam Pribyl" <pribyl at lowlevel.cz>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:36 AM
To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" 
<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: bugzilla search page times out while loading - 
unresponsivescript

> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Christopher D. Stover wrote:
>
>> If I do a very broad search query, I get the following: "This list is too 
>> long for Red Hat Bugzilla's little mind; the Next/Prev/First/Last buttons 
>> won't appear on individual bugs."  Albeit not the best answer ever, but 
>> if you make more restrictive searches, it shouldn't take so long and 
>> you'll see less problems I think.
>>
>> Chris
>
> This has nothing to do with buzilla search itself, it is a known problem 
> with javascript and the amount of options on the search page. Already 
> discussed several time, bugged several times, but no improvement. The page 
> gets unresponsive script message even on fast lines and fast CPU.. this is 
> just a page bloat hitting everybody working with bugzilla.
>
> Adam Pribyl
>
>
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> 



From lsmid at redhat.com  Wed Oct 22 17:09:30 2008
From: lsmid at redhat.com (Ludek Smid)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:09:30 +0200
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>	<48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
	<48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <48FF5E4A.3090702@redhat.com>

Jehudi Castro wrote:
> XO laptops arrived to the Czech Republic.
And we have SD cards and we are looking for power plug adapters now :)

Ludek



From gerrytool at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 17:34:05 2008
From: gerrytool at gmail.com (Gerry Tool)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:34:05 -0500
Subject: Fedora 10 Beta boot makes loud pop in speakers
In-Reply-To: <20081022103547.000a9add@zooty>
References: <c77266e40810220632r424f2d75pe367e151e2f26053@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081022103547.000a9add@zooty>
Message-ID: <c77266e40810221034n1f2d1aaeyb5ca56d0ee121188@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Tom Horsley <tom.horsley at att.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:32:47 -0500
> "Gerry Tool" <gerrytool at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Do others experience this?
>>
>> What element should I post a bug against?
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446535
>
> You could chime in on that bugzilla. I first noticed it
> in fedora 9, then later after a kernel update for fedora 8
> and I guess it hasn't improved in f10.
>
I added my comments to the bug report.  Thanks for replying.

Gerry



From billcrawford1970 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 17:26:06 2008
From: billcrawford1970 at gmail.com (Bill Crawford)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:26:06 +0100
Subject: bugzilla search page times out while loading - unresponsive
	script
In-Reply-To: <48FDA359.9080902@iinet.net.au>
References: <4c37b6af0810200430x5517a78bgf0cdaf583d1370b3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FDA359.9080902@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <200810221826.07044.billcrawford1970@gmail.com>

On Tuesday 21 October 2008 10:39:37 David Timms wrote:

> Since it seems to be time based, if you are on slower connection, it
> would probably happen more often.

Happens to me on >1mbit connections.



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 22 19:27:52 2008
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:27:52 -0400
Subject: Snap Releases
Message-ID: <48FF7EB8.8080300@sbcglobal.net>

What are these FC 10 Snap 1, 2 releases, ISO's ??
I have FC 10 Beta installed and a lot of problems.



From niftyfedora at niftyegg.com  Wed Oct 22 20:01:40 2008
From: niftyfedora at niftyegg.com (Nifty Fedora Mitch)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:01:40 -0700
Subject: Snap Releases
In-Reply-To: <48FF7EB8.8080300@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48FF7EB8.8080300@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20081022200140.GA7994@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:27:52PM -0400, Jim wrote:
> 
> What are these FC 10 Snap 1, 2 releases, ISO's ??
> I have FC 10 Beta installed and a lot of problems.
>

Most are related to getting the XO hardware working with F10
  (explore http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki)
If you watch livecd-tools in actions when making a bootable USB key
you will see that it does a yum update in addition to pulling in base (configurable).
The result is F10beta+UpdatesFromRawhide i.e. a snapshot.

Since the XO hardware is so limited these mini snaps permit testing
of F10.  Each snap meshes with a point that the XO test folk find 
functional on XO hardware enough to bother with.   This is quite a challenge given
the limits of the hardware (memory and disk are limited, no CDROM).

The configurable part is that livecd-tools are driven by a kickstart configuration
file.  At this time the .ks file is close or equal to the F10 live CD setup.
Of interest since a CD is about 4GB the group has shifted to a 4GB SD flash card.

As you are finding, Beta can be bumpy at times.   The LiveCD and LiveSDflash bootable media
can provide a way to test F10-latest-stuff and still keep the base system
intact.    

For the bystanders the LiveCD or LiveUSB environment sets the stage for 
recovery, flexibility and options for those of us that have only one system.
There is an old true ism that if you work on cars you have to have a
second to go and get parts.   The LiveCD/LiveUSB has the potential of
being more than a scooter in the boot.   



-- 
	T o m  M i t c h e l l 
	Found me a new hat, now what?



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 22 20:02:21 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:02:21 -0500
Subject: Snap Releases
In-Reply-To: <48FF7EB8.8080300@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48FF7EB8.8080300@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20081022200221.GA28539@wolff.to>

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 15:27:52 -0400,
  Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> What are these FC 10 Snap 1, 2 releases, ISO's ??
> I have FC 10 Beta installed and a lot of problems.

They are post beta rawhide snapshots for testing media installs and upgrades.
If you just want to get rawhide updates and not test new installs, you can
use yum. Even if you are testing media installs you might want to get
the daily boot.iso image and do a network install.



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 22 20:06:29 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081022 changes
Message-ID: <20081022200630.028C51B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Wed Oct 22 14:38:16 UTC 2008

New package openlayers
        A JavaScript library for displaying map data in web browsers
Removed package qpackagekit
Updated Packages:

MAKEDEV-3.24-1
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* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> 3.24-1
- Fix speed up patch (jakub, #466485).


NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4201.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> - 1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4201
- Fix issues with hostname during anaconda installation (rh #461933)
- Fix Ad-Hoc WPA connections (rh #461197)
- Don't require gnome-panel or gnome-panel-devel (rh #427834)
- Fix determination of WPA encryption capabilities on some cards
- Fix conflicts with PPTP and vpnc plugins
- Allow .cer file extensions when choosing certificates


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-----------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.8-2
- Obsoletes: packagekit-qt(-devel)/qpackagekit(-devel)
- cleanup deps


augeas-0.3.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 David Lutterkort <dlutter at redhat.com> - 0.3.2-1
- New version


bluez-4.16-1.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.16-11
- Update to 4.16


coreutils-6.12-16.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> - 6.12-16
- make possible to disable capability in ls due to
  performance impact when not cached(#467508)
- do not patch generated manpages - generate them at build
  time
- do not mistakenly display -g and -G runuser option in su
  --help output


cups-1.3.9-2.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.3.9-2
- Fixed textonly filter to send FF correctly.


desktop-backgrounds-9.0.0-3
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 9.0.0-3
- Move waves wallpapers to a subpackage


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From robk at ningaui.net  Thu Oct 23 01:39:26 2008
From: robk at ningaui.net (Rob K)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:39:26 +1100
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48FF5E4A.3090702@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com> <48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
	<48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com> <48FF5E4A.3090702@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <352bdb60810221839y70a5c6a6hcf4c65922f009343@mail.gmail.com>

>> XO laptops arrived to the Czech Republic.

Have any arrived in .au yet?

-- 
Rob K
http://ningaui.net
I swear, if I collected all seven dragonballs,
I'd bring back Jon Postel. - Raph



From luya at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 23 01:59:53 2008
From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:59:53 -0700
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48FFDA99.6010708@fedoraproject.org>

Greg Dekoenigsberg a ?crit :
>
> Hi folks.
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit,
> so let's all get to know each other.
>
> A reminder on getting started: see...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO
>
> --g
>
I just got it via Fedex.  This XO has some difference with B4-2 version
due to its rough surface.
I am Luya, Fedora Artwork contributor who is currently studying Graphic
Design. I am very familiar with Linux command and XO laptop.


Luya

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From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us  Thu Oct 23 03:38:52 2008
From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:38:52 -0700
Subject: XO power management
Message-ID: <994441ae0810222038v69cc0449v70fb02bcc7daa7c3@mail.gmail.com>

So I signed up for the XO power management team
(dyoung at fedoraproject.org). First thing I noticed is that none of the
pm-utils seem to do much unless HAL reports a system.chassis.type,
which the XO does not:

[root at localhost ~]# pm-suspend
error: libhal_device_get_property_type:
org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchProperty: No property system.chassis.type on
device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer
[root at localhost ~]# hal-get-property --udi
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer --key system.chassis.type
error: libhal_device_get_property_type:
org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchProperty: No property system.chassis.type on
device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer

I'm not sure what component to file the bug against. HAL?

--
Dan Young <dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us>
Multnomah ESD - Technology Services
503-257-1562



From caf at omen.com  Thu Oct 23 04:28:05 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:28:05 -0700
Subject: Wed Rawhide No Ethernet on MSI P43neo3
Message-ID: <48FFFD55.3070406@omen.com>

Both 32 and 64 bit pxeboot flavors fail to initialize the motherboard
Ethernet after loading and asking for language, keyboard, and
interface option.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From luya at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 23 04:55:05 2008
From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:55:05 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48FFDA99.6010708@fedoraproject.org>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48FFDA99.6010708@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1224737705.490003a95a47a@ssl.mecca.ca>

Quoting Luya Tshimbalanga <luya at fedoraproject.org>:

> I just got it via Fedex.  This XO has some difference with B4-2 version
> due to its rough surface.
> I am Luya, Fedora Artwork contributor who is currently studying Graphic
> Design. I am very familiar with Linux command and XO laptop.

Updated to 767. I requested developer key for XO laptop which should be ready
the next day by the time I am writing this message. Sugar version runs smoother
and better on that machine than B4-2 especially the power management (finally,
a working suspend mode). I can't wait to try the display mode on Fedora 10
Snapshot 3.

--
Luya Tshimbalanga
Fedora Project contributor



From nacross at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 05:41:52 2008
From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:41:52 -0600
Subject: questions regarding internet sharing
Message-ID: <f1706c1e0810222241m12bab338xfc7ded25c1d32d93@mail.gmail.com>

I have watched an amazing video about internet sharing using fedora10
http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/10/16/video-fedora-10-connection-sharing/

it said it was easy as one, two, three... but not luck

I don't know if this is a bug, I may guess that is may fault. But I
have looked on google and get a lot of web pages that were not really
related to what I was looking.

I am running a LiveCD, I haven't installed anything to my computer
yet. It is need to install it before trying to run a internet sharing?

I went for the network manager, clicked on "new network" created the
new wireless network and ... nothing happened.

Do I need to install somenthing befor going for internet sharing, like dhcpd ?

There is a manual about network-manager? I would like to read it even
if it is for older versions.

I would like to show off this cool feature on our fedora10 release party

-- 
Neville
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
Linux User # 473217

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -



From lsmid at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 11:06:10 2008
From: lsmid at redhat.com (Ludek Smid)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:06:10 +0200
Subject: XO in Brno -- can help with startup
Message-ID: <49005AA2.4000904@redhat.com>

Hi,

I've completed all necessary steps (I updated of XO firmware, installed 
F10 Live Image on card) and I wait for developer key. So if you need a 
help, I'm here and willing to help you with fist steps.

Ludek



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 23 11:16:06 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:16:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081023 changes
Message-ID: <20081023111607.037A91B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu Oct 23 06:01:10 UTC 2008

New package e16-keyedit
        GUI for editing keybindings in Enlightenment, DR16
New package logstalgia
        Web server access log visualizer
New package remoot
        ReMoot is a remote control wrapper
New package tcl-tcludp
        Tcl extension for UDP support
New package tcl-tclvfs
        Tcl extension for Virtual Filesystem support
New package tcl-tileqt
        QT widget support for Tile Toolkit
Updated Packages:

akonadi-1.0.0-4.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1.0.0-4
- drop Requires: mysql-server (for now), mention in %description


amsn-0.97-4.fc10
----------------
* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> - 0.97-4
- Patch the webcam part to use libv4l so that it will work with the new gspca
  driver in F-10


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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)



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----------------------------------------------------------
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----------------------------------------------------------
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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)





From davidsen at tmr.com  Thu Oct 23 12:47:56 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:47:56 -0400
Subject: F10-Snapshot-X86_64-KDE
In-Reply-To: <78323d480810211553q6cebe19r4d8643ceb1f9da16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78323d480810120844y7461c7adheadf490e9f27c22a@mail.gmail.com>	<78323d480810181532l499a778do9d7590ca1b85303a@mail.gmail.com>	<48FBCEBC.7050307@tmr.com>	<78323d480810191914l1baf39cclc809bc1a22c5519c@mail.gmail.com>	<48FE2A18.1030302@tmr.com>
	<78323d480810211553q6cebe19r4d8643ceb1f9da16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4900727C.5080408@tmr.com>

Mani A wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>> Mani A wrote:
>>> In the boot screen
>>> Press esc, then tab
>>> add resolution=1600x1200 as a boot option
>>>
>>> and any other 'boot time kernel option' that may be relevant.
>>>
>>> On radeon HD 36xx cards, too the radeon driver works 'out of box'
> 
>> What I have is this (from lspci):
>>  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650
>> series] (rev 9e)
>>  01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650
>> Series] (rev 9e)
>>
> 
> It should work well with driver radeonhd and possibly radeon
> 
> Check man radeon
> 
> Boot to runlevel 3, modprobe radeonhd,
> create a suitable xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 (copy from sda for eg)

I'll look at this, previous releases have generated xorg.conf at install. I have 
seen posts indicating that this new X didn't need it. Seems like a complex thing 
for the average user.

> Then 'startkde'  (no options allowed)

no kde here, but I get the idea. ;-)

> 
> Repeat with 'radeon'
> 
Thanks for the suggestions.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From katzj at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 02:58:04 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:58:04 -0400
Subject: Snap Releases
In-Reply-To: <20081022200140.GA7994@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
References: <48FF7EB8.8080300@sbcglobal.net>
	<20081022200140.GA7994@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
Message-ID: <1224730684.10618.19.camel@aglarond.local>

On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 13:01 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:27:52PM -0400, Jim wrote:
> > What are these FC 10 Snap 1, 2 releases, ISO's ??
> > I have FC 10 Beta installed and a lot of problems.
>
> Most are related to getting the XO hardware working with F10
>   (explore http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki)

Actually, the Snaps are a more general part of the release process now
so that we can get more testing of media-based things beyond just alpha
+ beta + preview release.

There's just a nice side effect that they're handy and work out well for
some of the testing on the XO :)

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 12:54:00 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:54:00 -0400
Subject: XO power management
In-Reply-To: <994441ae0810222038v69cc0449v70fb02bcc7daa7c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <994441ae0810222038v69cc0449v70fb02bcc7daa7c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224766440.10618.26.camel@aglarond.local>

On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 20:38 -0700, Dan Young wrote:
> So I signed up for the XO power management team
> (dyoung at fedoraproject.org). First thing I noticed is that none of the
> pm-utils seem to do much unless HAL reports a system.chassis.type,
> which the XO does not:

The bigger problem is that the OLPC power management support isn't in
the upstream kernel.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=465284 is already
filed for tracking that

And FWIW, we're almost certainly not being very aggressive about power
management related things in Fedora 10.  Partially because the bits
aren't upstream, partially because we're exercising some parts of the
kernel that are definitely not "happy"[1]

Jeremy

[1] eg, suspend/resume with the rootfs on sdhci is all but certain to
have its share of problems



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 23 12:56:02 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:56:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081022 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081022200630.028C51B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <348157.22643.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Rawhide Report <rawhide at fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> From: Rawhide Report <rawhide at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: rawhide report: 20081022 changes
> To: fedora-devel-list at redhat.com, fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:06 PM
> Compose started at Wed Oct 22 14:38:16 UTC 2008
> 
> New package openlayers
>         A JavaScript library for displaying map data in web
> browsers
> Removed package qpackagekit
> Updated Packages:
> 
> MAKEDEV-3.24-1
> --------------
> * Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Chris Lumens
> <clumens at redhat.com> 3.24-1
> - Fix speed up patch (jakub, #466485).
> 
> 
> NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4201.fc10
> --------------------------------------
> * Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams
> <dcbw at redhat.com> - 1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4201
> - Fix issues with hostname during anaconda installation (rh
> #461933)
> - Fix Ad-Hoc WPA connections (rh #461197)
> - Don't require gnome-panel or gnome-panel-devel (rh
> #427834)
> - Fix determination of WPA encryption capabilities on some
> cards
> - Fix conflicts with PPTP and vpnc plugins
> - Allow .cer file extensions when choosing certificates
> 
> 
> PackageKit-0.3.8-2.fc10
> -----------------------
> * Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter
> <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.8-2
> - Obsoletes: packagekit-qt(-devel)/qpackagekit(-devel)
> - cleanup deps
> 
> 
> augeas-0.3.2-1.fc10
> -------------------
> * Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 David Lutterkort
> <dlutter at redhat.com> - 0.3.2-1
> - New version
> 
> 
> bluez-4.16-1.fc10
> -----------------
> * Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera
> <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.16-11
> - Update to 4.16
> 
> 
> coreutils-6.12-16.fc10
> ----------------------
> * Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik
> <ovasik at redhat.com> - 6.12-16
> - make possible to disable capability in ls due to
>   performance impact when not cached(#467508)
> - do not patch generated manpages - generate them at build
>   time
> - do not mistakenly display -g and -G runuser option in su
>   --help output
> 
> 
> cups-1.3.9-2.fc10
> -----------------
> * Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh
> <twaugh at redhat.com> 1:1.3.9-2
> - Fixed textonly filter to send FF correctly.
> 
> 
> desktop-backgrounds-9.0.0-3
> ---------------------------
> * Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode
> <rstrode at redhat.com> 9.0.0-3
> - Move waves wallpapers to a subpackage
> 
> 
> Broken deps for i386
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 	evolution-brutus-1.2.27-1.fc10.i386 requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13
> 	evolution-zimbra-0.1.1-2.fc10.i386 requires
> libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13
> 	evolution-zimbra-0.1.1-2.fc10.i386 requires
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> libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13
> 	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.i386 requires libcamel-1.2.so.13
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
> 
> 
> 
> Broken deps for x86_64
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 	evolution-brutus-1.2.27-1.fc10.i386 requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13
> 	evolution-brutus-1.2.27-1.fc10.x86_64 requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	evolution-zimbra-0.1.1-2.fc10.x86_64 requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	evolution-zimbra-0.1.1-2.fc10.x86_64 requires
> libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.i386 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
> 	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.x86_64 requires iml =
> 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
> 	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.x86_64 requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.x86_64 requires
> libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires
> librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires
> librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires
> librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires
> librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
> 
> 
> 
> Broken deps for ppc
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 	evolution-brutus-1.2.27-1.fc10.ppc requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13
> 	evolution-brutus-1.2.27-1.fc10.ppc64 requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	evolution-zimbra-0.1.1-2.fc10.ppc requires
> libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13
> 	evolution-zimbra-0.1.1-2.fc10.ppc requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13
> 	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
> 	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
> 	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.ppc requires
> libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13
> 	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.ppc requires libcamel-1.2.so.13
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
> 
> 
> 
> Broken deps for ppc64
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 	evolution-brutus-1.2.27-1.fc10.ppc64 requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	evolution-zimbra-0.1.1-2.fc10.ppc64 requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	evolution-zimbra-0.1.1-2.fc10.ppc64 requires
> libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
> 	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
> 	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.ppc64 requires
> libcamel-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.ppc64 requires
> libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires
> librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires
> librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
> 	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires
> librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 

There are much more packages that appear than these ones listed here.  Are these the only ones that have a changelog?

Dependencies Resolved

================================================================================

 Package                     Arch   Version                     Repository
                                                                           Size
================================================================================

Installing:
 kernel                      i686   2.6.27.3-34.rc1.fc10        rawhide    19 M
 kernel-devel                i686   2.6.27.3-34.rc1.fc10        rawhide   5.4 M
Updating:                                                                      
 MAKEDEV                     i386   3.24-1                      rawhide    94 k
 NetworkManager              i386   1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4201.fc10   rawhide   875 k
 NetworkManager-glib         i386   1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4201.fc10   rawhide   147 k
 NetworkManager-gnome        i386   1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4201.fc10   rawhide   338 k
 PackageKit                  i386   0.3.8-2.fc10                rawhide   323 k
 PackageKit-glib             i386   0.3.8-2.fc10                rawhide   114 k
 PackageKit-udev-helper      i386   0.3.8-2.fc10                rawhide    48 k
 PackageKit-yum              i386   0.3.8-2.fc10                rawhide   103 k
 PackageKit-yum-plugin       i386   0.3.8-2.fc10                rawhide    50 k
 bluez                       i386   4.16-1.fc10                 rawhide   433 k
 bluez-libs                  i386   4.16-1.fc10                 rawhide    65 k
 coreutils                   i386   6.12-16.fc10                rawhide   4.5 M
 cups                        i386   1:1.3.9-2.fc10              rawhide   3.5 M
 cups-libs                   i386   1:1.3.9-2.fc10              rawhide   202 k
 desktop-backgrounds-basic   noarch 9.0.0-3                     rawhide   2.6 M
 evolution                   i386   2.24.1-2.fc10               rawhide    12 M
 evolution-data-server       i386   2.24.1-1.fc10               rawhide   4.0 M
 evolution-data-server-devel i386   2.24.1-1.fc10               rawhide   285 k
 evolution-data-server-doc   i386   2.24.1-1.fc10               rawhide   609 k
 fedora-icon-theme           noarch 1.0.0-4.fc10                rawhide   115 k
 glibmm24                    i386   2.18.1-1.fc10               rawhide   302 k
 gnome-applets               i386   1:2.24.1-1.fc10             rawhide   6.1 M
 gnome-power-manager         i386   2.24.1-1.fc10               rawhide   2.6 M
 gnome-terminal              i386   2.24.1-2.fc10               rawhide   1.7 M
 gtkhtml3                    i386   3.24.1-1.fc10               rawhide   1.1 M
 hal                         i386   0.5.12-7.20081022git.fc10   rawhide   469 k
 hal-cups-utils              i386   0.6.17-3.fc10               rawhide    40 k
 hal-devel                   i386   0.5.12-7.20081022git.fc10   rawhide    33 k
 hal-info                    noarch 20081022-1.fc10             rawhide   136 k
 hal-libs                    i386   0.5.12-7.20081022git.fc10   rawhide    65 k
 hpijs                       i386   1:2.8.7-3.fc10              rawhide   1.5 M
 hplip                       i386   2.8.7-3.fc10                rawhide   6.6 M
 hplip-libs                  i386   2.8.7-3.fc10                rawhide   143 k
 httpd                       i386   2.2.10-2                    rawhide   1.1 M
 httpd-manual                i386   2.2.10-2                    rawhide   849 k
 httpd-tools                 i386   2.2.10-2                    rawhide    68 k
 im-chooser                  i386   1.2.5-1.fc10                rawhide    85 k
 imsettings                  i386   0.105.0-4.fc10              rawhide   145 k
 imsettings-libs             i386   0.105.0-4.fc10              rawhide   109 k
 kernel-firmware             noarch 2.6.27.3-34.rc1.fc10        rawhide   342 k
 kernel-headers              i386   2.6.27.3-34.rc1.fc10        rawhide   736 k
 libgnome                    i386   2.24.1-5.fc10               rawhide   984 k
 libgnome-devel              i386   2.24.1-5.fc10               rawhide    83 k
 libsane-hpaio               i386   2.8.7-3.fc10                rawhide    59 k
 libusb                      i386   0.1.12-20.fc10              rawhide    28 k
 libusb-devel                i386   0.1.12-20.fc10              rawhide    78 k
 logwatch                    noarch 7.3.6-30.fc10               rawhide   321 k
 mod_ssl                     i386   1:2.2.10-2                  rawhide    85 k
 net-tools                   i386   1.60-91.fc10                rawhide   360 k
 nspluginwrapper             i386   1.1.2-4.fc10                rawhide   162 k
 nss                         i386   3.12.2.0-3.fc10             rawhide   1.2 M
 nss-devel                   i386   3.12.2.0-3.fc10             rawhide   229 k
 nss-tools                   i386   3.12.2.0-3.fc10             rawhide   1.2 M
 plymouth                    i386   0.6.0-0.2008.10.21.1.fc10   rawhide    42 k
 plymouth-gdm-hooks          i386   0.6.0-0.2008.10.21.1.fc10   rawhide    11 k
 plymouth-libs               i386   0.6.0-0.2008.10.21.1.fc10   rawhide    60 k
 plymouth-plugin-label       i386   0.6.0-0.2008.10.21.1.fc10   rawhide    14 k
 plymouth-plugin-spinfinity  i386   0.6.0-0.2008.10.21.1.fc10   rawhide    36 k
 plymouth-scripts            i386   0.6.0-0.2008.10.21.1.fc10   rawhide    12 k
 plymouth-utils              i386   0.6.0-0.2008.10.21.1.fc10   rawhide    16 k
 pygobject2                  i386   2.15.4-3.fc10               rawhide   184 k
 pygobject2-codegen          i386   2.15.4-3.fc10               rawhide   131 k
 pygobject2-devel            i386   2.15.4-3.fc10               rawhide    45 k
 pygobject2-doc              i386   2.15.4-3.fc10               rawhide    41 k
 rpm                         i386   4.6.0-0.rc1.3               rawhide   1.1 M
 rpm-build                   i386   4.6.0-0.rc1.3               rawhide   118 k
 rpm-devel                   i386   4.6.0-0.rc1.3               rawhide    78 k
 rpm-libs                    i386   4.6.0-0.rc1.3               rawhide   345 k
 rpm-python                  i386   4.6.0-0.rc1.3               rawhide    43 k
 selinux-policy              noarch 3.5.13-3.fc10               rawhide   590 k
 selinux-policy-targeted     noarch 3.5.13-3.fc10               rawhide   1.9 M
 system-config-language      noarch 1.3.2-3.fc10                rawhide   111 k
 system-config-printer       i386   1.0.9-1.fc10                rawhide   371 k
 system-config-printer-libs  i386   1.0.9-1.fc10                rawhide   875 k
 system-config-rootpassword  noarch 1.99.4-2.fc10               rawhide    70 k
 totem-pl-parser             i386   2.24.1-2.fc10               rawhide   343 k
 vim-common                  i386   2:7.2.025-2.fc10            rawhide   6.9 M
 vim-enhanced                i386   2:7.2.025-2.fc10            rawhide   891 k
 vim-minimal                 i386   2:7.2.025-2.fc10            rawhide   352 k
 vorbis-tools                i386   1:1.2.0-3.fc10              rawhide   194 k
 xorg-x11-drv-evdev          i386   2.0.7-3.fc10                rawhide    18 k
 xorg-x11-drv-i810           i386   2.5.0-1.fc10                rawhide   266 k
 xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse        i386   12.5.2-1.fc10               rawhide    12 k
 ypbind                      i386   3:1.20.4-8.fc10             rawhide    41 k
Removing:
 kernel                      i686   2.6.27-13.fc10              installed  51 M
 kernel-devel                i686   2.6.27-13.fc10              installed  35 M
Installing for dependencies:
 solar-backgrounds           noarch 0.90.0-1.fc10               rawhide    37 M

Transaction Summary
================================================================================

Install      3 Package(s)
Update      84 Package(s)
Remove       2 Package(s)

Total download size: 136 M
.... <snip removed> ....


Just wondering!

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 23 12:58:31 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:58:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: You must have at least one <locale> entry in a <schema>
Message-ID: <608742.22015.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear all,

when updating I got the message: 

  Updating       : im-chooser                                    [ 60/173] 
You must have at least one <locale> entry in a <schema>


Is that important or just a minor little detail?

Thanks,

Antonio 


      



From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Thu Oct 23 13:01:32 2008
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:01:32 +0200
Subject: rawhide report: 20081022 changes
In-Reply-To: <348157.22643.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20081022200630.028C51B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<348157.22643.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20081023150132.d5807f27.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Antonio Olivares wrote:

> There are much more packages that appear than these ones listed here.  Are these the only ones that have a changelog?
> 

Was it necessary to quote so much?

As pointed out in "Re: rawhide report: 20081021 changes" on devel list,
repodiff is broken by non-ASCII/non-UTF-8 characters in some changelogs.
Wherever it runs, it seems these special characters break it.



From tom.horsley at att.net  Thu Oct 23 13:25:05 2008
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:25:05 -0400
Subject: You must have at least one <locale> entry in a <schema>
In-Reply-To: <608742.22015.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <608742.22015.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20081023092505.0bb1879a@zooty>

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:58:31 -0700 (PDT)
Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is that important or just a minor little detail?

I submitted a bugzilla on that and it is already closed
as fixed in latest version, so I guess it is a minor issue
now :-).



From mclasen at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 13:46:07 2008
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:46:07 -0400
Subject: You must have at least one <locale> entry in a <schema>
In-Reply-To: <608742.22015.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <608742.22015.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1224769567.4003.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 05:58 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> when updating I got the message: 
> 
>   Updating       : im-chooser                                    [ 60/173] 
> You must have at least one <locale> entry in a <schema>
> 
> 
> Is that important or just a minor little detail?

It is important insofar at it prevents the gconf schema from being
successfully installed, with the consequence that settings won't have
their intended default values.



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 23 13:51:59 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:51:59 -0400
Subject: XO power management
In-Reply-To: <1224766440.10618.26.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <994441ae0810222038v69cc0449v70fb02bcc7daa7c3@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224766440.10618.26.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <1224769919.9694.4.camel@rosebud>

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 08:54 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 20:38 -0700, Dan Young wrote:
> > So I signed up for the XO power management team
> > (dyoung at fedoraproject.org). First thing I noticed is that none of the
> > pm-utils seem to do much unless HAL reports a system.chassis.type,
> > which the XO does not:
> 
> The bigger problem is that the OLPC power management support isn't in
> the upstream kernel.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=465284 is already
> filed for tracking that
> 
> And FWIW, we're almost certainly not being very aggressive about power
> management related things in Fedora 10.  Partially because the bits
> aren't upstream, partially because we're exercising some parts of the
> kernel that are definitely not "happy"[1]
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> [1] eg, suspend/resume with the rootfs on sdhci is all but certain to
> have its share of problems

I think the word you're looking for is 'will crash'

and suspend to disk will scribble all over the drive.

-sv




From notting at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 14:18:49 2008
From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:18:49 -0400
Subject: You must have at least one <locale> entry in a <schema>
In-Reply-To: <608742.22015.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <608742.22015.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20081023141849.GC4912@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>

Antonio Olivares (olivares14031 at yahoo.com) said: 
> Dear all,
> 
> when updating I got the message: 
> 
>   Updating       : im-chooser                                    [ 60/173] 
> You must have at least one <locale> entry in a <schema>

Note that it's entirely possible that that error is from a %pre script,
which means it applies to the next package in the transaction, not
im-chooser.

(Which may very well be gnome-terminal, which has been fixed by Matthias
already.)

Bill



From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 14:33:52 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:33:52 -0400
Subject: Fedora Test Day - F10 Installation Guide
Message-ID: <1224772432.5639.78.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Greetings,

Today's scheduled test day with a focus on eclipse-3.4 testing has been
postponed. :(

Instead, I'd like to invite folks to help review the F10 *DRAFT*
installation guide (available at
http://jsmith.fedorapeople.org/drafts/install-guide-en_US/).  There have
been significant improvements to anaconda (NetworkManager integration
and install method changes) which may not be fully/correctly documented.

As always, you're welcome to join #fedora-qa to share your F10-Beta or
F10 Snapshot feedback.

More information can be found at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days.

Hope to see you there,
James
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From bressers at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 15:10:40 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:10:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Actually using Fedora on your XO
In-Reply-To: <2062777628.2853541224774408479.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1966873273.2859501224774640566.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>


----- "Josh Bressers" <bressers at redhat.com> wrote:

> So now that it seems we can all install and mostly boot the XO iwth
> Fedora 10, can
> anyone else actually use anything?
> 

So I shall interpret the silence as a combination of don't care and go away.

So that brings us to the next question.

Being part of the XO performance team, what is the expectation?

If we suggest adding or removing various packages for the live spin, will we be
listened to?  Is shutting off services acceptable?  What about having a customized
~ so we can adjust various application settings.

How much RAM should be free (as I said previously, I can't get this number much
above 90ish megs without seriously neutering GNOME).

I don't want to spend time on tasks that will be ignored, so can whoever is
driving the bus clarify this.

Thanks.

-- 
    JB



From ranger at opennms.org  Thu Oct 23 15:24:58 2008
From: ranger at opennms.org (Benjamin Reed)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:24:58 -0400
Subject: Actually using Fedora on your XO
In-Reply-To: <1966873273.2859501224774640566.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1966873273.2859501224774640566.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4900974A.2000107@opennms.org>

Josh Bressers wrote:
> ----- "Josh Bressers" <bressers at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> So now that it seems we can all install and mostly boot the XO iwth
>> Fedora 10, can anyone else actually use anything?
>>
> 
> So I shall interpret the silence as a combination of don't care and go away.

I've been busy getting another OpenNMS release out the door, so haven't
had a chance to really dig into it enough to have a good answer for you.  :)

Personally, snap2 for me was unusable, although I got one response that
implies I should try a smaller swap partition, which I'm going to give a
shot tonight if I can.

Also, has anyone put packages together to be able to integrate the
compcache stuff nicely without having to put together an F10 build box
to package it up myself?  It sounds like that might be a nice solution
to some of these issues.

-- 
Benjamin Reed
The OpenNMS Group
http://www.opennms.org/


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From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 16:16:40 2008
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:16:40 +0200
Subject: [pulseaudio] Regression: video goes sluggish, sound dies after 30
 mins
Message-ID: <1224778600.8905.51.camel@pc-notebook>

Hi,

I have Rawhide installed (I installed it when f10 beta came out) and
some bunch of updates after that I started noticing sound is dying after
30 mins or so of active playing. After some playing around I discovered
that I can start playing things again if I do pulseaudio -k - but for
another 30 mins. This is really a pain, especially given that in F9 it
worked.

Then I also discovered similar thing happens to video, though it took me
longer to discover it is a pulseaudio problem. After, the above
mentioned, 30 mins of active playing video gets really, really slow, but
sound continues to play. Restarting totem/mplayer does not help, however
pulseaudio -k and restarting totem/mplayer does.

Today I've finally brought myself to fill a bug. Well, rather I've found
one [1] which seems to be very issue I am having, but it was originally
filled against Xorg, so it might have slipped pulseaudio maintainers
attention.

Do you have similar issue?

Thanks,
Martin

References:
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466478

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From denis at poolshark.org  Thu Oct 23 16:29:30 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:29:30 +0200
Subject: [pulseaudio] Regression: video goes sluggish, sound dies after
 30 mins
In-Reply-To: <1224778600.8905.51.camel@pc-notebook>
References: <1224778600.8905.51.camel@pc-notebook>
Message-ID: <4900A66A.4050709@poolshark.org>

Sounds like another case of
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462200



From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Thu Oct 23 17:06:18 2008
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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:06:18 +0200
Subject: rawhide report: 20081023 changes
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after using yum to update (10/23) i have a problem. 

rebooting leaves me stuck on a blank screen that says only "GRUB" and has a pulsing cursor. If I use a livecd and mount my boot partition I see what looks to be a correct set of files including grub.conf and the vmlinuz of for the new kernel. 

which package could be the culprit?


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From jlaska at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 17:24:41 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:24:41 -0400
Subject: Actually using Fedora on your XO
In-Reply-To: <1966873273.2859501224774640566.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1966873273.2859501224774640566.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224782681.5656.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Greetings Josh,

There are already XO-specific quirks landing into the spin-kickstart for
the stock Live image.  My expectation for the XO performance test team
is to identify and potentially make recommendations for improving the
performance of the stock Live image on the XO.

In the end, this laptop has 256M of RAM.  So I'm under no expectation
that we can make 256M feel like 2G of RAM.  But I think it's a
reasonable exercise to make the most of the resources given.

Thanks,
James

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 11:10 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:
> ----- "Josh Bressers" <bressers at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > So now that it seems we can all install and mostly boot the XO iwth
> > Fedora 10, can
> > anyone else actually use anything?
> > 
> 
> So I shall interpret the silence as a combination of don't care and go away.
> 
> So that brings us to the next question.
> 
> Being part of the XO performance team, what is the expectation?
> 
> If we suggest adding or removing various packages for the live spin, will we be
> listened to?  Is shutting off services acceptable?  What about having a customized
> ~ so we can adjust various application settings.
> 
> How much RAM should be free (as I said previously, I can't get this number much
> above 90ish megs without seriously neutering GNOME).
> 
> I don't want to spend time on tasks that will be ignored, so can whoever is
> driving the bus clarify this.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
>     JB
> 
-- 
==========================================
 James Laska         -- jlaska at redhat.com
 Quality Engineering -- Red Hat, Inc.
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From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Thu Oct 23 17:28:35 2008
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:28:35 +0200
Subject: rawhide report: 20081023 changes
In-Reply-To: <712272a468700fc29c17e34451b7aaf9@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <20081023111607.037A91B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<712272a468700fc29c17e34451b7aaf9@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <20081023192835.b5b00f4a.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:06:18 +0200, zachpowers wrote:

> after using yum to update (10/23) i have a problem. 
> 
> rebooting leaves me stuck on a blank screen that says only "GRUB" and has a pulsing cursor. If I use a livecd and mount my boot partition I see what looks to be a correct set of files including grub.conf and the vmlinuz of for the new kernel. 
> 
> which package could be the culprit?

The kernel package's postinstall script, which runs /sbin/new-kernel-pkg 
(from mkinitrd pkg) to reinstall GRUB (instead of just editing grub.conf).

AFAIK it's not reproducible. It's in Bugzilla several times most likely.
For example: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/432555

What seems to happen is that in some run-time environments under special
circumstances the reinstallation of GRUB is not successful. Collecting
data about the affected systems might be helpful.



From katzj at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 17:36:09 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:36:09 -0400
Subject: Actually using Fedora on your XO
In-Reply-To: <1966873273.2859501224774640566.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1966873273.2859501224774640566.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224783369.10618.59.camel@aglarond.local>

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 11:10 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:
> ----- "Josh Bressers" <bressers at redhat.com> wrote:
> > So now that it seems we can all install and mostly boot the XO iwth
> > Fedora 10, can anyone else actually use anything?
> > 
> So I shall interpret the silence as a combination of don't care and go away.

I've actually been doing a fair bit with Snap2 to dive a little deeper
functionally (mostly to find other things and at least get them on the
radar).  Is it the fastest computer I've ever used?  No.  But it
performs far better than I expected given that it's a 433 mhz machine
with 256 megs of RAM.

Are you using the exact livecd-iso-to-disk parameters from the wiki with
the current version of the script?

> So that brings us to the next question.
> 
> Being part of the XO performance team, what is the expectation?
> 
> If we suggest adding or removing various packages for the live spin, will we be
> listened to?  Is shutting off services acceptable?  What about having a customized
> ~ so we can adjust various application settings.

Suggestions will definitely be looked at.  But they are going to need to
be things which generally make sense.  eg, we turned off setroubleshoot
because with the live images, you really _shouldn't_ be getting that
popping up.  But we're not going to switch out evolution[1] for mutt ;)

> How much RAM should be free (as I said previously, I can't get this number much
> above 90ish megs without seriously neutering GNOME).

Caring about RAM being free is a bit of a silly metric.  On my laptop
with 2 gigs of RAM, I don't have RAM "free".  The kernel is very good at
taking up all available RAM :-)  

Jeremy

[1] I actually successfully ran evolution.  But I'm a bit nuts ;-)



From michal at harddata.com  Thu Oct 23 17:39:37 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:39:37 -0600
Subject: rawhide report: 20081023 changes
In-Reply-To: <712272a468700fc29c17e34451b7aaf9@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <20081023111607.037A91B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>
	<712272a468700fc29c17e34451b7aaf9@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <20081023173937.GA26957@mail.harddata.com>

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 07:06:18PM +0200, zachpowers wrote:
> after using yum to update (10/23) i have a problem. 
> 
> rebooting leaves me stuck on a blank screen that says only "GRUB"
> and has a pulsing cursor.

In such case you did not really start booting yet.  It looks that
you are not getting stage2 loaders and/or grub menu.

> If I use a livecd and mount my boot
> partition I see what looks to be a correct set of files including
> grub.conf and the vmlinuz of for the new kernel. 

Then you can reinstall grub the same way it was installed in the
first place and hopefuly this will solve the issue.

> which package could be the culprit?

You are not far enough to talk about packages unless something
scribbled over your boot sector.  Do you have more than one disk?
Maybe something confused BIOS about disk ordering?  It is difficult
to imagine what that may be.  Even in such case writing a new boot
sector should help.

BTW - did you power down before trying to reboot?  If you have
a shadow copy of BIOS in memory and this got messed up somehow
this may cause what you are seeing.

   Michal



From Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil  Thu Oct 23 17:39:54 2008
From: Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil (Todd Denniston)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:39:54 -0400
Subject: rawhide report: 20081023 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081023192835.b5b00f4a.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
References: <20081023111607.037A91B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>	<712272a468700fc29c17e34451b7aaf9@fcp.surfsite.org>
	<20081023192835.b5b00f4a.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <4900B6EA.30604@ssa.crane.navy.mil>

Michael Schwendt wrote, On 10/23/2008 01:28 PM:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:06:18 +0200, zachpowers wrote:
> 
>> after using yum to update (10/23) i have a problem. 
>>
>> rebooting leaves me stuck on a blank screen that says only "GRUB" and has a pulsing cursor. If I use a livecd and mount my boot partition I see what looks to be a correct set of files including grub.conf and the vmlinuz of for the new kernel. 
>>
>> which package could be the culprit?
> 
> The kernel package's postinstall script, which runs /sbin/new-kernel-pkg 
> (from mkinitrd pkg) to reinstall GRUB (instead of just editing grub.conf).
> 
> AFAIK it's not reproducible. It's in Bugzilla several times most likely.
> For example: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/432555
> 
> What seems to happen is that in some run-time environments under special
> circumstances the reinstallation of GRUB is not successful. Collecting
> data about the affected systems might be helpful.
> 

Under what conditions IS the reinstallation of grub a NEEDED thing for a KERNEL?
Are there any?
Can they be detected at script run time and only activate this portion when it 
IS needed?
I thought that one of the benefits of grub was that unlike LILO, you did not 
have to reinstall it for changes in it's config to take effect.


I could understand a reinstall of grub when an updated grub package was installed.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



From jspaar at users.sourceforge.net  Thu Oct 23 18:11:16 2008
From: jspaar at users.sourceforge.net (Jack Spaar)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:11:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Actually using Fedora on your XO
References: <2062777628.2853541224774408479.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1966873273.2859501224774640566.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <gdqeo3$ss7$1@ger.gmane.org>

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:10:40 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:

> ----- "Josh Bressers" <bressers at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> So now that it seems we can all install and mostly boot the XO iwth
>> Fedora 10, can
>> anyone else actually use anything?
>> 
>> 
> So I shall interpret the silence as a combination of don't care and go
> away.
> 
[...]

My two cents as a casual participant, there's a lot to be gained by 
getting stock F10 to run on the XO as well as possible:
1) we'll reduce the distance between OLPC's own distro and its upstreams, 
which will be good for OLPC and all of its "customers".
2) by fixing as many underlying issues as possible, we'll be setting a 
good foundation for a near-future XO-friendly spin of Fedora -- and 
identifying resource-conserving alternatives will no-doubt end up being 
useful in that spin
3) this effort is introducing active Fedorans to the XO

At this point, I'm a little nervous about whether F10 itself, even after 
our best efforts, is on track to be usable as part of the upcoming G1G1 
offering.  In particular, every version of F10 has been unusable for me 
*except* the pre-hotdog olpc-gnome.iso, where I had no problem starting 
GNOME and pulling up Firefox and browsing around, without overlays or swap 
or special efforts to stop extraneous services.  I'm wondering what 
differences there are between that version and the follow-ons that might 
explain this.  Squashfs vs. ext3 doesn't seem to account for it, but it's 
over my head in any case.

I'm off for vacation for a couple weeks, please keep plugging away and 
have everything perfect when I get back. ;)

--Jack Spaar



From davidsen at tmr.com  Thu Oct 23 18:19:10 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:19:10 -0400
Subject: F10 Snap 1
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810191903w350f819bo23f9880b8b448fbf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f3ddc6d30810131805y2923bf7dj18a93528f33103c9@mail.gmail.com>	<48FBD3CB.6080406@tmr.com>
	<6d06ce20810191903w350f819bo23f9880b8b448fbf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4900C01E.8030304@tmr.com>

Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>> James Hubbard wrote:
>>> Fedora 10 Snapshot 1 LiveCD has worked much better for than the Beta
>>> Live CD.  While trying to use the Beta, I was not able to get it to
>>> boot into X.  I had tried to a couple of boot params to force it to
>>> use vesa, but I don't know if those are available anymore.  The video
>>> card is listed as an ATI 3200.
>>>
>> Is a fully rawhide updated system supposed to be functionally the same as
>> SS1? And could you tell me what magic gets it to use vesa, since the obvious
>> edit of the boot line to include video=vesa doesn't do anything obvious on
>> any of my systems.
> 
> Rawhide is now f10 snap2++
> Maybe the video answer you seek is here -
> http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
> 
Even with "vga=792" I get a correct resolution text window (I assume, the boot 
scroll looks great), but then I get 800x600. When I try to set the resolution I 
get a big "display unknown" (or similar) and no window size choices. Previously 
I could click the "display" tab and force the display to "generic 1600x1200 LCD" 
or similar, and then select a better resolution, log out and in and have it work.

Even with nomodeset I have no way to force the display to anything like reality, 
so for the moment I guess I will wait until the real release comes out and see 
if it gets fixed.

Thanks for the ideas, clearly the display type is the issue, and the resolution 
setting tool no longer allows you to voice an opinion.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From katzj at redhat.com  Thu Oct 23 18:22:41 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:22:41 -0400
Subject: Actually using Fedora on your XO
In-Reply-To: <gdqeo3$ss7$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <2062777628.2853541224774408479.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<1966873273.2859501224774640566.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<gdqeo3$ss7$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1224786161.10618.66.camel@aglarond.local>

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 18:11 +0000, Jack Spaar wrote:
> At this point, I'm a little nervous about whether F10 itself, even after 
> our best efforts, is on track to be usable as part of the upcoming G1G1 
> offering.  In particular, every version of F10 has been unusable for me 
> *except* the pre-hotdog olpc-gnome.iso, where I had no problem starting 
> GNOME and pulling up Firefox and browsing around, without overlays or swap 
> or special efforts to stop extraneous services.  I'm wondering what 
> differences there are between that version and the follow-ons that might 
> explain this.  Squashfs vs. ext3 doesn't seem to account for it, but it's 
> over my head in any case.

Keep in mind that this isn't going to be "everybody who gets a G1G1
machine is also going to be getting Fedora".  It's going to be an option
that's available for those that want to pursue it.

As far as overlay, swap, etc -- the plan as it stands right now is that
SD cards _as shipped_ pre-loaded will have an overlay and swap.  And on
any docs that go onto the OLPC site, we'll be pretty explicit with the
exact parameters that want to be used.

And with those and snap2, I've been reasonably running firefox and doing
a few things.  And I think that the performance matches pretty closely
to what I was seeing back on the far older images.

The biggest difference between the first image I posted and later ones
is that we're now using the regular Fedora kernel as opposed to a
one-off, OLPC-based, older kernel.  Which means not necessarily having
every Geode specific optimization as instead it's a kernel that's more
generically optimized.

Jeremy



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 23 21:35:22 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081022 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081023150132.d5807f27.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <784216.39908.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de> wrote:

> From: Michael Schwendt <mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de>
> Subject: Re: rawhide report: 20081022 changes
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 6:01 AM
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Antonio Olivares
> wrote:
> 
> > There are much more packages that appear than these
> ones listed here.  Are these the only ones that have a
> changelog?
> > 
> 
> Was it necessary to quote so much?
Probably not, but I needed to have something to prove my point.  Sorry to all if this was unnecessary.  
> 
> As pointed out in "Re: rawhide report: 20081021
> changes" on devel list,
> repodiff is broken by non-ASCII/non-UTF-8 characters in
> some changelogs.
> Wherever it runs, it seems these special characters break
> it.
> 
> -- 

I am not subscribed to devel list.  So I would not know that.  I was just wondering why only a few packages appeared and there were many others.

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Thu Oct 23 21:51:32 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:51:32 +0200
Subject: gcjwebplugin error
Message-ID: <4900F1E4.9060607@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Hi,

I just updated to the latest Rawhide (x86_64) and see this message when 
I boot the laptop:

gcjwebplugin error: Failed to run 
/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/../../bin/pluginappletviewer.  For more 
detail rerun "firefox -g" in a terminal window.

Regards,
Patrick



From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Thu Oct 23 22:07:39 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:07:39 +0200
Subject: Resume fails on kernel 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.x86_64 and ATI X1300
Message-ID: <4900F5AB.9000809@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Hi,

Just updated to Rawhide (x86_64). Suspended the laptop and pressed the 
spacebar to resume. Resume fails. Here are the details I noticed:

- pressing the spacebar the laptop powers on again
- the screen's backlight switches on
- the harddisk led flickers brightly for a few seconds
- a normal cursor appears in the top left corner. It's not a small
   cursor you would see when booting with vga=794 on F9 but a standard
   one that's pretty wide
- the harddisk led starts to dimly flicker at what seems regular
   intervals
- gnome desktop does not appear
- pressing caps lock does not result in the caps lock led lighting up
- when I press the power button the laptop powers down.

Specs of laptop:
- Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 X86_64 (Acer TM6465WLMi)
- ATI X1300
- WUXGA screen (1680x1050)

Is there any way I can debug this? Any log files that are retained from 
the failed resume after I have rebooted the laptop.

FWIW: when I boot with "nomodeset" suspend & resume work fine.

Thanks,
Patrick



From imain at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 02:15:58 2008
From: imain at redhat.com (Ian Main)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:15:58 -0700
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <352bdb60810221839y70a5c6a6hcf4c65922f009343@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com> <48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
	<48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com> <48FF5E4A.3090702@redhat.com>
	<352bdb60810221839y70a5c6a6hcf4c65922f009343@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081023191558.33a65a6d@tp.mains.net>

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:39:26 +1100
"Rob K" <robk at ningaui.net> wrote:

> >> XO laptops arrived to the Czech Republic.
> 
> Have any arrived in .au yet?

Apparently they can get stuff across the ocean faster than they can to Canada :)

Just got mine today in BC Canada.  Card should be here soon.  I'm a long standing developer and have worked in a number of areas over the years.  Currently working on Ovirt.

Looking forward to trying it out!  Thanks for the opportunity guys!

	Ian



From imain at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 02:45:39 2008
From: imain at redhat.com (Ian Main)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:45:39 -0700
Subject: International XO shipments
In-Reply-To: <48FC262B.2040808@redhat.com>
References: <48FC262B.2040808@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20081023194539.53e19dec@tp.mains.net>

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:33:15 +0300
Alexander Todorov <atodorov at redhat.com> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> Good morning,
> I believe at least few people outside US haven't heard back on their XOs. There
> was someone who posted on the list last week or so as well and I didn't see a
> follow up. What's happening with XOs for outside US (I'm in Europe)? Are we
> going to get them before the test schedule is over?

I just got mine in here in Canada.  I'll locate a card ASAP and try to get in on the
testing.  

Is it still useful to test Sugar?  I see an official release has been made
since..  I do have a 5 and 7 year old whom I could watch and provide some useability
feedback and perhaps bugs etc..  They are definitely attracted to it :).

	Ian



From poelstra at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 02:50:42 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:50:42 -0700
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-21
In-Reply-To: <48FE00ED.1080701@redhat.com>
References: <48FE00ED.1080701@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <49013802.2050200@redhat.com>

John Poelstra wrote:
> == Triage Priorities ==
> * highest priority bugs to triage are here http://tinyurl.com/6llac8
> ** identify and add applicable bugs to the release blocker or tracker 
> bug list
> ** identify any bugs that are RFE or feature requests--add 
> ''FutureFeature'' keyword
> ** at or around 2008-11-25 we will rebase all rawhide bugs that are 
> !package reviews and !FutureFeature to version "10"
> ** we have quite a ways to go ~729 NEW bugs as of now

Thanks to all the hard working triagers out there! New bugs continue to 
come in and the present count is 585. I'm hoping we can get down to 400 
going into the weekend :)

John



From gerrytool at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 03:56:20 2008
From: gerrytool at gmail.com (Gerry Tool)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:56:20 -0500
Subject: hp-toolbox crashing in F10beta
Message-ID: <c77266e40810232056o22574a3cp64745d0e91580248@mail.gmail.com>

Trying to run hp-toolbox in F10 beta crashes with
[gerry at f10beta ~]$ hp-toolbox

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 2.8.7)
HP Device Manager ver. 14.0

Copyright (c) 2001-8 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

error: Unable to lock /home/gerry/.hplip/hp-toolbox.lock. Is
hp-toolbox already running?
[gerry at f10beta ~]$ ps aux | grep hp-toolbox
gerry     4020  0.0  0.0   4212   704 pts/0    S+   22:44   0:00 grep hp-toolbox

It is evident that no other instance is running.

Are others seeing this?  It works fine in F9.

Gerry



From dan at danny.cz  Fri Oct 24 05:46:38 2008
From: dan at danny.cz (Dan =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hor=E1k?=)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:46:38 +0200
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com> <48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
	<48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1224827198.3595.16.camel@eagle.danny.cz>

I got mine too, but unfortunately without battery and power supply. They
were probably "lost" somewhere in the process. The original power supply
needs an US-to-EU plug adapter anyway, so I can solve it with 3rd party
one with the same specs. I have already mailed Greg about that issue.


		Dan

Jehudi Castro p??e v St 22. 10. 2008 v 13:21 +0200:
> XO laptops arrived to the Czech Republic.
> 
> Marco Rhodes wrote:
> > Hi all -
> >
> > Just wanted to give a quick update on  where I am with testing.
> >
> > I saw the message about needing the 4GB SD card a bit late. As someone 
> > else pointed out in another thread, Circuit City has no problem taking 
> > the 2 GB card back for a full refund (within 30 days). Problem is, 
> > they stopped selling the 4GB version. So I will be ordering mine 
> > online and will rush the shipment so that I can get in on the fun.
> >
> > I did update my XO and have received my dev key. The updated interface 
> > is very nice.  No problems connecting to my WPA2 network at home either.




From luya at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 24 05:57:26 2008
From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:57:26 -0700
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <20081023191558.33a65a6d@tp.mains.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com>
	<48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>	<48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com>
	<48FF5E4A.3090702@redhat.com>	<352bdb60810221839y70a5c6a6hcf4c65922f009343@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081023191558.33a65a6d@tp.mains.net>
Message-ID: <490163C6.9080803@fedoraproject.org>

Ian Main a ?crit :
> Apparently they can get stuff across the ocean faster than they can to Canada :)
>
> Just got mine today in BC Canada.  Card should be here soon.  I'm a long standing developer and have worked in a number of areas over the years.  Currently working on Ovirt.
>
>   
Which part of BC do you live? I am from Lower Mainland aka Vancouver.

Luya

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From luya at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 24 06:01:03 2008
From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:01:03 -0700
Subject: International XO shipments
In-Reply-To: <20081023194539.53e19dec@tp.mains.net>
References: <48FC262B.2040808@redhat.com>
	<20081023194539.53e19dec@tp.mains.net>
Message-ID: <4901649F.6050509@fedoraproject.org>

Ian Main a ?crit :
> Is it still useful to test Sugar?  I see an official release has been made
> since..  I do have a 5 and 7 year old whom I could watch and provide some useability
> feedback and perhaps bugs etc..  They are definitely attracted to it :).
>
>   
Sugar is really useful. We can learn with OLPC team did so improvement
can be
merge on Fedora.

Luya

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From atodorov at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 06:27:47 2008
From: atodorov at redhat.com (Alexander Todorov)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:27:47 +0300
Subject: International XO shipments
In-Reply-To: <20081023194539.53e19dec@tp.mains.net>
References: <48FC262B.2040808@redhat.com>
	<20081023194539.53e19dec@tp.mains.net>
Message-ID: <49016AE3.8050901@redhat.com>

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| On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:33:15 +0300
| Alexander Todorov <atodorov at redhat.com> wrote:
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|> Good morning,
|> I believe at least few people outside US haven't heard back on their XOs. There
|> was someone who posted on the list last week or so as well and I didn't see a
|> follow up. What's happening with XOs for outside US (I'm in Europe)? Are we
|> going to get them before the test schedule is over?
|
| I just got mine in here in Canada.  I'll locate a card ASAP and try to get in
on the
| testing.
|

After long talk to the local FedEx office I managed to get a tracking # for
mine. I'll have it soon.
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From jpazdziora at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 07:10:28 2008
From: jpazdziora at redhat.com (Jan Pazdziora)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:10:28 +0200
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081024071028.GA12030@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:39:39PM -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>
> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can  
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a  
> brief intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so  
> let's all get to know each other.

I got the unit, I have it upgraded to 767, currently waiting for my
developer's key and getting the Fedora image to the SD card.

I work at Red Hat on systems management (RHN Satellite and Spacewalk).
I've been Linux user since 1993 or so, with Fedora being my main
distribution for the whole Fedora existence. My IRC nick is adelton.

-- 
Jan Pazdziora
Satellite Engineering, Red Hat



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 08:04:49 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:04:49 -0400
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1224835489.5264.27.camel@ignacio.lan>

Finally got mine, and upgraded it to 767.

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 24 10:25:40 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:25:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081024 changes
Message-ID: <20081024102540.CAD6E1F824A@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri Oct 24 06:01:04 UTC 2008

New package R-nws
        R functions for NetWorkSpaces and Sleigh
New package etherboot
        Etherboot collection of boot roms
New package openalchemist
        Reflection game
New package perl-Catalyst-Model-XMLRPC
        XMLRPC model class for Catalyst
New package rxtx
        Parallel communication for the Java Development Toolkit
Updated Packages:

OpenIPMI-2.0.14-5.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Jan Safranek <jsafrane at redhat.com> - 2.0.14-5
- fix typos in the descriptions
- add .desktop file for openipmigui tool


PackageKit-0.3.8-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.8-3
- Add a patch from upstream to pkcon install foo


R-car-1.2-4.fc10
----------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> 1.2-4
- Update to 1.2-9


R-multcomp-1.0-2.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 1.0-2
- Update to 1.0-3


R-systemfit-1.0-4.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Orion Poplawski <orion at cora.nwra.com> - 1.0-4
- Update to 1.0-7
- New source URL


WebKit-1.0.0-0.15.svn37790.fc10
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com> 1.0.0-0.15.svn37790
- Update to new upstream snapshot (SVN 37790).
- Default to freetype font backend for improved CJK/Unicode support. (#448693)
- Add some notes to the build options comments block.
- Add a build-time conditional for jit

* Sun Aug 24 18:00:00 2008 Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com> 1.0.0-0.14.svn35904
- Update to new upstream snapshot (SVN 35904)

* Fri Jul  4 18:00:00 2008 Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com>
- Remove outdated and unnecessary GCC 4.3 patch:
  - gcc43.patch
- Fix the curl-devel BuildRequire conditional. (It is only needed when building
  against curl instead of libsoup.)


amanda-2.6.0p2-3.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Daniel Novotny <dnovotny at redhat.com> 2.6.0p2-3
- added trailing || : in the %pre client script


audit-1.7.8-2.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 1.7.8-2
- Fix segfault when using file input to aureport
- Quieten down messages about missing gssapi support


bash-3.2-28.fc10
----------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Roman Rakus <rrakus at redhat.com> - 3.2-28
- Removing Requires for mktemp and ncurses, which cause
  dependencing loop
- Enabling #define SSH_SOURCE_BASHRC, because ssh changed.
  Resolves: #458839
- Catch signals right after calling execve()
  Resolves: #455548


bluez-gnome-1.8-7.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.8-7
- Add support for pairing a few GPS devices (#464446)


classpathx-mail-1.1.1-7.1.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.1.1-7.1
- reintroduce release numbering scheme that has been missing since -5

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.1.1-7
- remove javadoc scriptlets (Resolves: #205191)
- replace /usr/sbin with %{_sbindir}


comps-extras-15-1
-----------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 15-1
- revert back to non-echo icons
- add icons for Haskell, Ruby


dhcp-4.0.0-30.fc10
------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 12:4.0.0-30
- Fix dhclient.conf man page and sample config file to say 'supersede
  domain-search', which is what was actually demonstrated (#467955)


directfb-1.2.6-3.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.2.6-3
- Disable the sorelease downgrade
- Exclude directfb-config - Fix multiarch conflicts #341011.

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.2.6-2
- Disable ppc asm
- Drop the asm/type.h patch (fixed upstream)

* Mon Sep 29 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.2.6-1
- Update to 1.2.6

* Wed Jul 16 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.2.0-1
- Update to 1.2.0 (final)
- Add BR libvncserver-devel
- Enable Unique WM
- Enabled multi (Requires linux-fusion kernel module)

* Sat Jun 21 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.2.0-0.1.rc1
- Update to 1.2.0-rc1

* Sat Jun 21 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.1.1-1
- Update to 1.1.1
- Add --enable-multi


eclipse-3.4.1-5.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 3.4.1-5
- Fix splashscreen (#467259).


eclipse-mylyn-3.0.3-2.fc10
--------------------------

evolution-brutus-1.2.27-2.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 1.2.27-2
- Rebuild for new camel library from e-d-s


evolution-data-server-2.24.1-2.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-2.fc10
- Add patch for RH bug #467804 (remove console spew).


evolution-zimbra-0.1.1-3.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.1.1-3
- Rebuild for new camel library from e-d-s


filezilla-3.1.5-1.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 3.1.5-1
- Update to 3.1.5


generic-logos-10.0.0-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 10.0.0-1
- update for current fedora-logos, with Solar theme


ghc-6.8.3-10.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 6.8.3-9
- use gen_contents_index to re-index haddock
- add %pkg_docdir to cabal_configure
- requires(post) haddock09 for doc
- improve doc file lists
- no longer need to create ghost package.conf.old
- remove or rename alternatives files more consistently

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 6.8.3-10
- remove redundant --haddockdir (interfacedir in Cabal-1.2) from cabal_configure


gkrellm-2.3.2-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> 2.3.2-1
- New upstream release 2.3.2
- Drop upstreamed memleak patch


gthumb-2.10.10-3.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.10.10-3
- Avoid tons of GTK+ warnings


gtk2hs-0.9.13-3.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Jens Petersen <petersen at redhat.com> - 0.9.13-3
- install docs in ghc haddock dir with htmldocdir and use ghc_reindex_haddock
- rename gtk2hs-doc to ghc-gtk2hs-doc
- use pkg_name, pkg_libdir, and pkg_docdir for Haskell packaging guidelines
- don't override __spec_install_post


ibus-0.1.1.20081023-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081023-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081023.


ibus-chewing-0.1.1.20081023-1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20080923-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20080923.


ibus-hangul-0.1.1.20081023-1.fc10
---------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Huang Peng <shawn.p.huang at gmail.com> - 0.1.1.20081023-1
- Update to 0.1.1.20081023.


imsettings-0.105.1-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 0.105.1-1
- New upstream release.
  - Fix another freeze issue. (#452849)
- imsettings-r210.patch: removed.


jakarta-commons-beanutils-1.7.0-10.3.fc10
-----------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.7.0-10.3
- Fedora-specific: enable GCJ support

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.7.0-10.2
- Fedora-specific: BuildRequires: java-1.6.0-devel

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.7.0-10.1
- Fedora-specific: remove repolib
- Fedora-specific: enable JDK6 support

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.7.0-10
- add flag to build with maven

* Fri Sep 19 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.7.0-9
- add jdk6 patch
- fix repolib


java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-1.0.b12.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 1:1.6.0-1.0.b12
- Removed option to build with alternate jar.

* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 1:1.6.0-1.0.b12
- Updated icedteaver.
- Updated Release.
- Changed to use IcedTeaPlugin.so instead of gcjwebplugin.so. Includes 
LiveConnect support.
- Updated mauvedate.
- Added xulrunner-devel and xulrunner-devel-unstable as build requirements.
- Enabled building of pulse-java, not default sound implementation though.
- Added build requirements for pulse-java.
- Resolves: rhbz#468043 
- Resolves: rhbz#375161 
- Resolves: rhbz#432184 
- Resolves: rhbz#302071 
- Resolves: rhbz#457536 
- Resolves: rhbz#460236 
- Resolves: rhbz#460084
- Resolves: rhbz#467794


ktorrent-3.1.4-1.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 3.1.4-1
- ktorrent-3.1.4 (#468233)


libX11-1.1.4-5.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.1.4-5
- libX11-1.1.4-keysysm.patch: add a bunch of keysyms for remote controls and
  special keys.


libasyncns-0.6-1.fc10
---------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter at redhat.com> 0.6-1
- New release

* Sat Aug 23 18:00:00 2008 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter at redhat.com> 0.5-1
- New release


libcgroup-0.32.1-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Dhaval Giani <dhaval at linux.vnet.ibm.com> 0.32.1-1
- Update to latest upstream


libgnome-2.24.1-6.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-6
- sed the pot file to avoid multilib issues (#468161)


libgxim-0.3.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 0.3.1-1
- New upstream release.


libv4l-0.5.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl> 0.5.2-1
- New upstream release 0.5.2


liferea-1.4.20-4.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Steven M. Parrish <smparrish at shallowcreek.net> 1.4.20-4
- Packaged the WebKit libs seperately so the default install uses
- XulRunner.  If the user wants to enable WebKit they need to 
- install the -WebKit sub-package


mc-4.6.2-7.pre1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at redhat.com> 4.6.2-7.pre1
- allow switching of trailing spaces/tab highlighting with crtl-v,
  patch from Jan Engelhardt (#464738)
- update the UTF-8 patch accordingly


mm-1.4.2-4.fc10
---------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Thienemann <andreas at bawue.net> - 1.4.2-5
- Updated mm-config file to remove multilib conflict.


nautilus-actions-1.9-0.3.svn20081020.fc10
-----------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Deji Akingunola <dakingun at gmail.com> - 1.9-0.3.svn20081020
- Update to a svn snapshot to fix bug #450988


ngircd-0.12.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Thienemann <andreas at bawue.net> 0.12.1-1
- Updated to 0.12.1
- Updated configuration sample


objectweb-asm-3.1-5.1.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:3.1-5.1
- build for Fedora

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:3.1-5
- add OSGi manifest (Alexander Kurtakov)

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:3.1-4
- remove Class-Path from MANIFEST.MF
- add unversioned javadoc symlink
- remove javadoc scriptlets
- fix directory ownership
- remove build requirement on dos2unix


octave-3.0.2-2.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Rakesh Pandit <rakesh at fedoraproject.org> 3.0.2-2
- patch for sh arch: it adds '-little' flag


openoffice-lv-0.7.4-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 0.7.4-1
- latest version


opensp-1.5.2-9.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> 1.5.2-9
- convert doc files to UTF-8 (#226217)


perl-5.10.0-49.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 4:5.10.0-49
- update File::Temp to 0.20


perl-CGI-Ajax-0.707-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.707-1
- update to 0.707-1


perl-Catalyst-Runtime-5.7015-1.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 5.7015-1
- update to 5.7015


perl-Gtk2-Sexy-0.04-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.04-1
- update to 0.04


perl-HTML-Template-Pro-0.71-1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Lubomir Rintel (Good Data) <lubo.rintel at gooddata.com> - 0.71-1
- New upstream version


perl-List-Compare-0.37-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.37-1
- update to 0.37


perl-Module-Install-ExtraTests-0.004-2.fc10
-------------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.004-2
- bump

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.004-1
- update to 0.004


perl-RPC-XML-0.64-1.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.64-1
- update to 0.64-1
- drop tests patch (fixed!)
- add BR on Net::Server


perl-Sub-Exporter-0.980-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.980-1
- update to 0.980


perl-Template-Alloy-1.013-1.fc10
--------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.013-1
- update to 1.013


php-pear-Image-Color-1.0.2-5.fc10
---------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 1.0.2-5
- Update LICENSE to 3.01


php-pear-Image-Graph-0.7.2-4.fc10
---------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 0.7.2-4
- Merge subpackages
- Convert example files to UTF-8


php-pear-Image-GraphViz-1.2.1-4.fc10
------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 1.2.1-4
- Update LICENSE to 3.01


php-pear-Numbers-Words-0.15.0-4.fc10
------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 0.15.0-4
- Update LICENSE file to version 3.01


php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.2-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 3.3.2-1
- Upstream sync
- Remove no longer needed Obsolete/Provides


php-pear-Structures-DataGrid-0.9.0-3.fc10
-----------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 0.9.0-3
- Move examples to %doc
- Fix up %files section


php-pear-XML-RSS-0.9.10-5.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> 0.9.10-5
- Update LICENSE to 3.01


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.23.2.fc10
----------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.23.2
- Bump so name of libply to hopefully force plymouth to get installed
  before kernel (or at least make plymouth-libs and plymouth get installed
  on the same side of kernel in the transaction).

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.23.1
- Add patch from Charlie to align progress bar to milestones during boot up
- force tty to be sane on exit (bug 467207)

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.21.3
- add empty files section for text-and-details-only so the subpackage
  shows up.


policycoreutils-2.0.57-5.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-5
- Allow addition of local modifications of fcontext policy.


pulseaudio-0.9.13-4.fc10
------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter at redhat.com> 0.9.13-4
- Backport another fix from current git master

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter at redhat.com> 0.9.13-3
- Backport a couple of fixes from current git master


puppet-0.24.6-1.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Todd Zullinger <tmz at pobox.com> - 0.24.6-1
- Update to 0.24.6
- Require ruby-shadow on Fedora and RHEL >= 5
- Simplify Fedora/RHEL version checks for ruby(abi) and BuildArch
- Require chkconfig and initstripts for preun, post, and postun scripts
- Conditionally restart puppet in %postun
- Ensure %preun, %post, and %postun scripts exit cleanly
- Create puppet user/group according to Fedora packaging guidelines
- Quiet a few rpmlint complaints
- Remove useless %pbuild macro
- Make specfile more like the Fedora/EPEL template


purple-facebookchat-1.37-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Mat??j Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com> 1.37-1
- Upstream release.


purple-microblog-0.1.2-2.20081023svn165.fc10
--------------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Mat??j Cepl <mcepl at redhat.com> 0.1.2-2.20081023svn165
- Rebase to the new SVN checkout
- Remove patches (they were accepted upstream)


python-mwlib-0.8.5-2.fc10
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Ian Weller <ianweller at gmail.com> 0.8.5-2
- Silly me, I forgot to upload Source0 in CVS

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Ian Weller <ianweller at gmail.com> 0.8.5-1
- Bump to 0.8.5


python-simplejson-2.0.3-2.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> 2.0.3-2
- Use nose to run the simplejson test suite


python-tw-forms-0.9.2-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Luke Macken <lmacken at redhat.com> - 0.9.2-1
- Update to tw.forms 0.9.2


rpmlint-0.85-1.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.85-1
- 0.85, fixes #355861, #450011, #455371, #456843, #461421, #461423, #461434.
- Mute some explicit-lib-dependency false positives (#458290).
- Sync Fedora license list with Wiki revision 1.19.
- Dist regex patch applied/superseded upstream.


rubygem-cobbler-0.1.2-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 0.1.2-1
- Fixed a bug in how the remove method was generated.


rubygem-gettext-1.93.0-7.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 1.93.0-7
- Handle gettext .mo files under %{geminstdir}/data/locale by
  modifying find-lang.sh


rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10
------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 1.8.1-2
- Last build failed.

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 1.8.1-1
- Release 1.8.1 of the gem.


rubygem-rubyforge-1.0.1-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 1.0.1-1
- Release 1.0.1 of Rubyforge.


sectool-0.9.1-2
---------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Peter Vrabec <pvrabec at redhat.com> - 0.9.1-2
- add missing requirement (468033)
- fix deps of cron test (468033)


selinux-policy-3.5.13-5.fc10
----------------------------

setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.10-1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 <dwalsh at redhat.com> - 2.0.10-1
- Add qemu plugins for real


stapitrace-1.0.0-19.20080622cvs_alpha.fc10
------------------------------------------
* Wed Oct 15 18:00:00 2008 Dave Nomura <dcnltc at us.ibm.com>
- upgrade to utrace2


subversion-api-docs-1.5.3-1.fc10
--------------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Bojan Smojver <bojan at rexursive.com> 1.5.3-1
- bump up to 1.5.3


swfdec-0.8.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org> - 0.8.2-1
- Update to 0.8.2.


system-config-keyboard-1.2.15-4.fc10
------------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> 1.2.15-4
- Fix a traceback when running under firstboot reconfig mode.


telepathy-gabble-0.7.12-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org> - 0.7.12-1
- Update to 0.7.12.


tomcat5-5.5.27-4.9.fc10
-----------------------

up-imapproxy-1.2.7-0.1.rc1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Rakesh Pandit <rakesh at fedoraproject.org> 1.2.7.rc1-1
- updated to 1.2.7.rc1 - security updates, buffer overflow etc.

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Rakesh Pandit <rakesh at fedoraproject.org> 1.2.7-0.1.rc1
- fixed version and release fields (acc. to guidelines)


wine-1.1.6-1.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 1.1.6-1
- version upgrade
- fix multiarch problems (#466892,#467480)


wordpress-2.6.3-1.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Adrian Reber <adrian at lisas.de> - 2.6.3-1
- updated to 2.6.3


xine-lib-1.1.15-2.fc10
----------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.1.15-2
- respin


xkeyboard-config-1.4-4.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer  <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> - 1.4-4
- xkeyboard-config-1.4-battery.patch: add XF86 syms for Battery, Bluetooth,
  Wlan and UWB to usinet.


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-31.fc10
------------------------------

xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.4-4.fc10
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 7.4-4
- xproto 7.0.14


yum-3.2.19-6.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.19-6
- update HEAD patch


yum-utils-1.1.17-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org>
- small patch to repodiff to keep rawhide builds from falling over until 1.1.18


Summary:
Added Packages: 5
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 96
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.i386 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.i386 requires libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13
	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.i386 requires libcamel-1.2.so.13
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.i386 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.x86_64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.x86_64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.x86_64 requires libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.ppc requires libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13
	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.ppc requires libcamel-1.2.so.13
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.ppc64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
	planner-eds-0.14.3-5.fc10.ppc64 requires libcamel-provider-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3





From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 12:23:44 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:23:44 +0200
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
Message-ID: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
(915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
(not impressed).
Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?

Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
enable plymouth and to see how it should work?

Cheers,
Valent.



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From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 24 12:35:08 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?windows-1252?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:35:08 +0000
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4901C0FC.8010801@hi.is>

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
> (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
> Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
> screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
> (not impressed).
> Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
>
> Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
> enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
>
> Cheers,
> Valent.
>
>
>
>   
So I qoute ajax in a recent interview with Fedoramagazine

"*
*Intel is more of a sob story. The bits were kind of there and working 
in F9, but then suffered a pretty major series of rewrites.
It looks like it?s coming together though, should be working in F11 if 
not in an F10 update."


JBG

http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
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From gerrytool at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 12:38:21 2008
From: gerrytool at gmail.com (Gerry Tool)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:38:21 -0500
Subject: F10beta system-config-samba broken
Message-ID: <c77266e40810240538v5c1513fei5a6195318ccc13bd@mail.gmail.com>

When I try to run system-config-samba, either from the menu or cli,
all I get is a dialog box stating "Unknown Error".

Is this a known problem, or is my system special?

Thanks.

Gerry



From alsadi at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 12:40:27 2008
From: alsadi at gmail.com (Muayyad AlSadi)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:40:27 +0300
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <385866f0810240540r7e90d7d0n978c5b5cc40eba18@mail.gmail.com>

I got same thing on qmeu-kvm

but if you think your card is supported and the graphical plugin is not used
try to set the default graphical theme (called plugin) with
plymouth-set-default-plugin



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 12:42:38 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:42:38 +0200
Subject: F10beta system-config-samba broken
In-Reply-To: <c77266e40810240538v5c1513fei5a6195318ccc13bd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c77266e40810240538v5c1513fei5a6195318ccc13bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810240542q14c85781s50150198f087130d@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/24 Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com>:
> When I try to run system-config-samba, either from the menu or cli,
> all I get is a dialog box stating "Unknown Error".
>
> Is this a known problem, or is my system special?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gerry
>
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
 Bug 462842 -  System-config-samba crashes  (edit)


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Skype : antoniomontag



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 13:02:42 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:02:42 +0200
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <385866f0810240540r7e90d7d0n978c5b5cc40eba18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
	<385866f0810240540r7e90d7d0n978c5b5cc40eba18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810240602y4e7179e3s21ec2ca0381b2de8@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Muayyad AlSadi <alsadi at gmail.com> wrote:
> I got same thing on qmeu-kvm
>
> but if you think your card is supported and the graphical plugin is not used
> try to set the default graphical theme (called plugin) with
> plymouth-set-default-plugin
>
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

# plymouth-set-default-plugin
spinfinity

I run this command on two laptops, one with 915GM and other with 945GM
video chip. I still get only the blue progress bar.

Valent.

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From gerrytool at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 13:04:26 2008
From: gerrytool at gmail.com (Gerry Tool)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:04:26 -0500
Subject: F10beta system-config-samba broken
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810240542q14c85781s50150198f087130d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c77266e40810240538v5c1513fei5a6195318ccc13bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c37b6af0810240542q14c85781s50150198f087130d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c77266e40810240604v61d73016w692e0158daf2bca6@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/10/24 Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com>:
>> When I try to run system-config-samba, either from the menu or cli,
>> all I get is a dialog box stating "Unknown Error".
>>
>> Is this a known problem, or is my system special?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> --
>> fedora-test-list mailing list
>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>  Bug 462842 -  System-config-samba crashes  (edit)
>
>
> --
Thanks.  I added my comments to the bug report.



From rich.sharples at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 13:20:47 2008
From: rich.sharples at redhat.com (Rich Sharples)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:20:47 -0400
Subject: Actually using Fedora on your XO
In-Reply-To: <558206111.2407691224683609705.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <558206111.2407691224683609705.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4901CBAF.9080109@redhat.com>

My last config based on snap2 was a huge improvement and I can run 
applications but it's still too slow. I'll be trying snap3 over the 
weekend and am willing to try any perf. tricks.

If we can't get to an acceptable level of performance in a specified 
amount of time - we'll need a plan B; spinning up a thread to look at 
alternatives now seems prudent.

- Rich
> So now that it seems we can all install and mostly boot the XO iwth Fedora 10, can
> anyone else actually use anything?
>
> I find the applications on this spin to be a bit of a letdown (they're all quite
> resource intense), and even when I shut off most services and gnome things, there
> isn't enough ram to actually do much (one Firefox instance takes care of what RAM
> is left).
>
> The best I could do last night was to drop RAM usage to a point where there was
> about 86 Megs free.  Firefox will gladly eat all this away though.
>
> So just for fun I tried out the F10 XFCE spin.  It runs quite nicely, from a performance perspective, it's acceptable with no changes.
>
> So here are my thoughts and fears.
>
> If we go with the F10 GNOME spin, there will be two likely reactions from users:
>
> If the user knows Fedora, they'll probably get annoyed they paid extra for their SD
> card because it's so slow.
>
> If they don't know Fedora, they're going to assume Fedora is a fat slow pig and
> sucks.
>
> The more I try to slim this down, the more frustrated I'm getting, and I like to
> think I'm a bit smarter than the average bear here.  Is there a reason we HAVE to
> use the GNOME spin for this, or can other options be considered?
>
>   


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From selinux at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 13:32:45 2008
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:32:45 -0700
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810240602y4e7179e3s21ec2ca0381b2de8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
	<385866f0810240540r7e90d7d0n978c5b5cc40eba18@mail.gmail.com>
	<64b14b300810240602y4e7179e3s21ec2ca0381b2de8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530810240632m626a8cc3le6c8091ccdeb1a71@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Valent Turkovic
<valent.turkovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Muayyad AlSadi <alsadi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I got same thing on qmeu-kvm
>>
>> but if you think your card is supported and the graphical plugin is not used
>> try to set the default graphical theme (called plugin) with
>> plymouth-set-default-plugin
>>
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>
> # plymouth-set-default-plugin
> spinfinity
>
> I run this command on two laptops, one with 915GM and other with 945GM
> video chip. I still get only the blue progress bar.
>
> Valent.
>

No guarantees, but have you tried setting 'vga=792' on the kernel boot line?

tom
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From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 13:42:00 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:12:00 -0430
Subject: hp-toolbox crashing in F10beta
In-Reply-To: <c77266e40810232056o22574a3cp64745d0e91580248@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c77266e40810232056o22574a3cp64745d0e91580248@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224855720.8468.4.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 22:56 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote:
> Trying to run hp-toolbox in F10 beta crashes with
> [gerry at f10beta ~]$ hp-toolbox
> 
> HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 2.8.7)
> HP Device Manager ver. 14.0
> 
> Copyright (c) 2001-8 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
> This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
> This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
> under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.
> 
> error: Unable to lock /home/gerry/.hplip/hp-toolbox.lock. Is
> hp-toolbox already running?
> [gerry at f10beta ~]$ ps aux | grep hp-toolbox
> gerry     4020  0.0  0.0   4212   704 pts/0    S+   22:44   0:00 grep hp-toolbox
> 
> It is evident that no other instance is running.

Does /home/gerry/.hplip/hp-toolbox.lock exist? If so, remove it and try
again.

poc



From rstrode at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 14:33:52 2008
From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:33:52 -0400
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4901DCD0.4050404@redhat.com>

Hi,
> Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
> (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
> Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
> screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
> (not impressed).
> Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
>
> Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
> enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
>   
Unfortunately, the latest intel drivers don't do modesetting by default.

It's actually hard to enable modesetting for testing purposes too, 
because we don't write the pciids the card supports into the driver (for 
mkinitrd to find it).

Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel 
users are stuck with a text splash.

To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).

--Ray



From valent.turkovic at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 14:34:05 2008
From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:34:05 +0200
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530810240632m626a8cc3le6c8091ccdeb1a71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
	<385866f0810240540r7e90d7d0n978c5b5cc40eba18@mail.gmail.com>
	<64b14b300810240602y4e7179e3s21ec2ca0381b2de8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4c4ba1530810240632m626a8cc3le6c8091ccdeb1a71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64b14b300810240734u506ba99g5da25023329a3522@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Tom London <selinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> No guarantees, but have you tried setting 'vga=792' on the kernel boot line?

I have read http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
and they suggested to put vga=0x318 on the grub command line and that worked :)

On my laptop with intel 945GM I have a new fancy boot loader screen :)

Thank you Johann and Tom!

I still have no grub menu, only a black screen... is that a bug that I
should report or I should wait until intel driver gets better?

Cheers,
Valent.


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From mclasen at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 14:34:47 2008
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:34:47 -0400
Subject: Progress on sound problems
Message-ID: <1224858887.5222.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I'd like to encourage everybody who had problems with sound in F10 to
try pulseaudio-0.9.13-4.fc10 which should appear in rawhide tonight.

Lennart tracked down some hard-to-find bug. My initial testing showed
encouraging results: flash works, music doesn't die after an hour
anymore.


Matthias




From dbhole at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 14:43:45 2008
From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:45 -0400
Subject: gcjwebplugin error
In-Reply-To: <4900F1E4.9060607@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
References: <4900F1E4.9060607@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <20081024144343.GA1568@redhat.com>

* Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-23 17:52]:
> Hi,
>
> I just updated to the latest Rawhide (x86_64) and see this message when I 
> boot the laptop:
>
> gcjwebplugin error: Failed to run 
> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/../../bin/pluginappletviewer.  For more detail 
> rerun "firefox -g" in a terminal window.
>
> Regards,
> Patrick

Hi Patrick,

Can you please post the output of:

ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava*

and finally,

readlink -f /usr/lib/jvm/java

Deepak



From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Fri Oct 24 14:50:29 2008
From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?emFjaHBvd2Vycw==?=)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:50:29 +0200
Subject: rawhide report: 20081023 changes
In-Reply-To: <20081023173937.GA26957@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <095912f3ae58c2bbe10c9194e3317495@fcp.surfsite.org>

thanks for your comments guys.

i fixed it with a reinstall of grub using a livecd and grub-install. i also added my comment to the bugzilla.

thanks again.


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From pbrobinson at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 14:39:21 2008
From: pbrobinson at gmail.com (Peter Robinson)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:39:21 +0100
Subject: Progress on sound problems
In-Reply-To: <1224858887.5222.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1224858887.5222.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <5256d0b0810240739i4708d918g86ece395f3b6dc26@mail.gmail.com>

> I'd like to encourage everybody who had problems with sound in F10 to
> try pulseaudio-0.9.13-4.fc10 which should appear in rawhide tonight.
>
> Lennart tracked down some hard-to-find bug. My initial testing showed
> encouraging results: flash works, music doesn't die after an hour
> anymore.

Is there plans to push that to F-9 as well in that it might help fix
the issues on F-9?

Peter



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 15:13:26 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:13:26 +0200
Subject: Progress on sound problems
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810240739i4708d918g86ece395f3b6dc26@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1224858887.5222.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<5256d0b0810240739i4708d918g86ece395f3b6dc26@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810240813hb2900c5y31baaa943c289e6e@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/24 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
>> I'd like to encourage everybody who had problems with sound in F10 to
>> try pulseaudio-0.9.13-4.fc10 which should appear in rawhide tonight.
>>
>> Lennart tracked down some hard-to-find bug. My initial testing showed
>> encouraging results: flash works, music doesn't die after an hour
>> anymore.
>
> Is there plans to push that to F-9 as well in that it might help fix
> the issues on F-9?
>
> Peter
>
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I suggest to report in bug 462200, please...and extensive tests are needed.
- Not sure that music will not die after one hour or so... -

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From mclasen at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 15:15:12 2008
From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:15:12 -0400
Subject: Progress on sound problems
In-Reply-To: <5256d0b0810240739i4708d918g86ece395f3b6dc26@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1224858887.5222.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<5256d0b0810240739i4708d918g86ece395f3b6dc26@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1224861312.5222.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 15:39 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > I'd like to encourage everybody who had problems with sound in F10 to
> > try pulseaudio-0.9.13-4.fc10 which should appear in rawhide tonight.
> >
> > Lennart tracked down some hard-to-find bug. My initial testing showed
> > encouraging results: flash works, music doesn't die after an hour
> > anymore.
> 
> Is there plans to push that to F-9 as well in that it might help fix
> the issues on F-9?

This fix is in the glitch-free code, which doesn't exists in F-9 at all.



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 17:06:26 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:36:26 +0530
Subject: Fedora Test Day - F10 Installation Guide
In-Reply-To: <1224772432.5639.78.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1224772432.5639.78.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <78323d480810241006h6e35a0feq61d7ef54c5b007cb@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:03 PM, James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> wrote:
> Instead, I'd like to invite folks to help review the F10 *DRAFT*
> installation guide (available at
> http://jsmith.fedorapeople.org/drafts/install-guide-en_US/).  There have
> been significant improvements to anaconda (NetworkManager integration
> and install method changes) which may not be fully/correctly documented.

I sent this to the docs list too!

$2.2 'approriate'  <spelling>

$3.2 Processors

VIA C4 ?!

VIA C3, C7, AMD Geode and Longson are not mentioned

$3.3

What about those who want to install from iso images from hard disks
(without burning them)?
Part of $6.1 can be shifted here

$6.2  "Before you begin installation from a hard drive, check the
partition type to ensure that Fedora can read it. To check a
partition's file system under Windows, use the Disk Management tool.
To check a partition's file system under Linux, use the fdisk utility.
..."
does not say mention the supported file systems.


Best

A. Mani


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From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 24 17:12:13 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:12:13 -0500
Subject: F10beta system-config-samba broken
In-Reply-To: <c77266e40810240538v5c1513fei5a6195318ccc13bd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c77266e40810240538v5c1513fei5a6195318ccc13bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081024171213.GA19671@wolff.to>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 07:38:21 -0500,
  Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com> wrote:
> When I try to run system-config-samba, either from the menu or cli,
> all I get is a dialog box stating "Unknown Error".
> 
> Is this a known problem, or is my system special?

Do you still see it when you update to current rawhide?

There was a significant samba problem in rawhide a few weeks ago, but
I don't remember if it was fixed before or after the beta.



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 17:14:27 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:14:27 +0200
Subject: F10beta system-config-samba broken
In-Reply-To: <20081024171213.GA19671@wolff.to>
References: <c77266e40810240538v5c1513fei5a6195318ccc13bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081024171213.GA19671@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810241014n2d3560e7y3358124f2910b377@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/24 Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to>:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 07:38:21 -0500,
>  Gerry Tool <gerrytool at gmail.com> wrote:
>> When I try to run system-config-samba, either from the menu or cli,
>> all I get is a dialog box stating "Unknown Error".
>>
>> Is this a known problem, or is my system special?
>
> Do you still see it when you update to current rawhide?
>
> There was a significant samba problem in rawhide a few weeks ago, but
> I don't remember if it was fixed before or after the beta.
>
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nope...not after nor before...bug reported on September 19

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From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Fri Oct 24 17:15:40 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:15:40 +0200
Subject: gcjwebplugin error
In-Reply-To: <20081024144343.GA1568@redhat.com>
References: <4900F1E4.9060607@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024144343.GA1568@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <490202BC.60405@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Deepak Bhole wrote:
> * Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-23 17:52]:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just updated to the latest Rawhide (x86_64) and see this message when I 
>> boot the laptop:
>>
>> gcjwebplugin error: Failed to run 
>> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/../../bin/pluginappletviewer.  For more detail 
>> rerun "firefox -g" in a terminal window.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Patrick
> 
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Can you please post the output of:
> 
> ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
> ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava*
> 
> and finally,
> 
> readlink -f /usr/lib/jvm/java
> 
> Deepak

Hi Deepak,

Here is the output.

[patrick at localhost ~]$ ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
total 460
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     41 2008-10-01 12:43 libjavaplugin.so -> 
/etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5256 2008-10-20 11:52 
librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  70816 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-basic-plugin.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 101448 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-cone-plugin.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 110472 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  70840 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-mully-plugin.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  79872 2008-10-09 06:11 
libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so

[patrick at localhost ~]$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 63 2008-10-19 13:38 
/etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> 
/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so

[patrick at localhost ~]$ readlink -f /usr/lib/jvm/java
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64

Regards,
Patrick





From rstrode at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 17:58:15 2008
From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:58:15 -0400
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <64b14b300810240734u506ba99g5da25023329a3522@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>	<385866f0810240540r7e90d7d0n978c5b5cc40eba18@mail.gmail.com>	<64b14b300810240602y4e7179e3s21ec2ca0381b2de8@mail.gmail.com>	<4c4ba1530810240632m626a8cc3le6c8091ccdeb1a71@mail.gmail.com>
	<64b14b300810240734u506ba99g5da25023329a3522@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49020CB7.8050107@redhat.com>

Hi,
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Tom London <selinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> > No guarantees, but have you tried setting 'vga=792' on the kernel boot line?
>
> I have read http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
> and they suggested to put vga=0x318 on the grub command line and that worked :)
>
> On my laptop with intel 945GM I have a new fancy boot loader screen :)
>
> Thank you Johann and Tom!
>
> I still have no grub menu, only a black screen... is that a bug that I
> should report or I should wait until intel driver gets better?
>
>   
We hide the grub menu unless you hold down a key (like ctrl or alt) now 
(see the interview you referenced)
or if you are dual booting with a different OS.

--Ray




From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 24 19:20:28 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher Stover)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:20:28 -0500
Subject: Dependency problem with gstreamer-plugins-bad
Message-ID: <BAY124-W42E0CF664B548B3CEED93AD92B0@phx.gbl>


During the most recent rawhide update today, I had dependency problems with vlc-core and gstreamer-plugins-bad so I uninstalled both and the update worked.  Now, when I try to reinstall gstreamer-plugins-bad I'm getting the same dependency problems, which makes sense I suppose.  I filed a bug under https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468449 if anyone else runs into the same problem.

Chris



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 24 19:22:44 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:22:44 -0500
Subject: Odd tagging for fedora-release-notes
Message-ID: <20081024192244.GA11240@wolff.to>

I noticed that fedora-release-notes-8.92-2 is tagged for dist-f10 and
fedora-release-notes-9.0.2-1 is tagged f10-beta and this seems weird.
Shouldn't just one of these be used for both dist-f10 and f10-beta?
If anything I would expect the dist-f10 tag to imply a later release
than the f10-beta tag.



From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 19:24:47 2008
From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:24:47 +0200
Subject: Dependency problem with gstreamer-plugins-bad
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W42E0CF664B548B3CEED93AD92B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY124-W42E0CF664B548B3CEED93AD92B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4c37b6af0810241224t6f7a26e4y37c0fbb33efd3a0e@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/24 Christopher Stover <quantumburnz at hotmail.com>:
>
> During the most recent rawhide update today, I had dependency problems with vlc-core and gstreamer-plugins-bad so I uninstalled both and the update worked.  Now, when I try to reinstall gstreamer-plugins-bad I'm getting the same dependency problems, which makes sense I suppose.  I filed a bug under https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468449 if anyone else runs into the same problem.
>
> Chris
>
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you shoul report against RPMFusion not against rawhide :-)

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From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 24 19:36:31 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher Stover)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:36:31 -0500
Subject: Dependency problem with gstreamer-plugins-bad
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810241224t6f7a26e4y37c0fbb33efd3a0e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY124-W42E0CF664B548B3CEED93AD92B0@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810241224t6f7a26e4y37c0fbb33efd3a0e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W40271D9C498A4F1258D72FD92B0@phx.gbl>


You are 100% right Antolio!  I don't know what I was thinking.  I closed that bug and opened a new one on RPM Fusion, https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92.

Chris

----------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:24:47 +0200
> From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Dependency problem with gstreamer-plugins-bad
> 
> 2008/10/24 Christopher Stover :
>>
>> During the most recent rawhide update today, I had dependency problems with vlc-core and gstreamer-plugins-bad so I uninstalled both and the update worked.  Now, when I try to reinstall gstreamer-plugins-bad I'm getting the same dependency problems, which makes sense I suppose.  I filed a bug under https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468449 if anyone else runs into the same problem.
>>
>> Chris
>>
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>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
> 
> you shoul report against RPMFusion not against rawhide :-)
> 
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From gerrytool at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 20:06:49 2008
From: gerrytool at gmail.com (Gerry Tool)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:06:49 -0500
Subject: hp-toolbox crashing in F10beta
In-Reply-To: <1224855720.8468.4.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <c77266e40810232056o22574a3cp64745d0e91580248@mail.gmail.com>
	<1224855720.8468.4.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <c77266e40810241306n695091dfxe301eec1c943072f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 22:56 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote:
>> Trying to run hp-toolbox in F10 beta crashes with
>> [gerry at f10beta ~]$ hp-toolbox
>>
>> HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 2.8.7)
>> HP Device Manager ver. 14.0
>>
>> Copyright (c) 2001-8 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
>> This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
>> This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
>> under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.
>>
>> error: Unable to lock /home/gerry/.hplip/hp-toolbox.lock. Is
>> hp-toolbox already running?
>> [gerry at f10beta ~]$ ps aux | grep hp-toolbox
>> gerry     4020  0.0  0.0   4212   704 pts/0    S+   22:44   0:00 grep hp-toolbox
>>
>> It is evident that no other instance is running.
>
> Does /home/gerry/.hplip/hp-toolbox.lock exist? If so, remove it and try
> again.
>
> poc

I found that there was indeed an icon in my panel that I hadn't
noticed and one on the desktop, evidently from my first try to run
hp-toolbox.  I removed those and now all works fine.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Gerry



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 24 20:23:40 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:23:40 -0500
Subject: F10beta system-config-samba broken
In-Reply-To: <4c37b6af0810241014n2d3560e7y3358124f2910b377@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c77266e40810240538v5c1513fei5a6195318ccc13bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081024171213.GA19671@wolff.to>
	<4c37b6af0810241014n2d3560e7y3358124f2910b377@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081024202340.GA346@wolff.to>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 19:14:27 +0200,
  Antonio M <antonio.montagnani at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/10/24 Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to>:
> >
> > There was a significant samba problem in rawhide a few weeks ago, but
> > I don't remember if it was fixed before or after the beta.
> >
> 
> nope...not after nor before...bug reported on September 19

That must be a different one than the one that was giving me grief, as that
one got fixed.



From jlaska at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 20:35:41 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:35:41 -0400
Subject: XO - XFCE test team
Message-ID: <1224880541.3342.531.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Greetings,

There's been a lot of buzz around using a more lightweight desktop
environment on the XO.  After some discussion/debate, I'd like to invite
folks to sign-up to the XFCE test team for Fedora 10 on the XO.

While GNOME will continue to be the desktop offered with this years
G1G1, I certainly don't want to discourage folks from testing
alternatives.  I do want to emphasize though that GNOME is the primary
focus for Fedora on the XO.  The work that Josh Bresser's and the
Performance Test team is doing is very important in identifying
memory/cpu/"disk" hogs on the XO.

Additionally, I am by no means an XFCE expert (or even a user).  If
you've been talking on the list about using XFCE and you're experienced
in that space ... sign up.  

Sign up at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XO_Test_Roll_Call.

Once you sign up, I'll be asking the team to:
     1. Select a team name
     2. Select a team lead
     3. Begin fleshing out a test plan

More details on the team roles is defined in the test plan at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Responsibilities.

Thanks,
James

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From dbhole at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 20:41:18 2008
From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:41:18 -0400
Subject: gcjwebplugin error
In-Reply-To: <490202BC.60405@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
References: <4900F1E4.9060607@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024144343.GA1568@redhat.com>
	<490202BC.60405@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <20081024204118.GA9849@redhat.com>

* Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-24 13:16]:
> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>> * Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-23 17:52]:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just updated to the latest Rawhide (x86_64) and see this message when I 
>>> boot the laptop:
>>>
>>> gcjwebplugin error: Failed to run 
>>> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/../../bin/pluginappletviewer.  For more detail 
>>> rerun "firefox -g" in a terminal window.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Patrick
>>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> Can you please post the output of:
>>
>> ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
>> ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava*
>>
>> and finally,
>>
>> readlink -f /usr/lib/jvm/java
>>
>> Deepak
>
> Hi Deepak,
>
> Here is the output.
>
> [patrick at localhost ~]$ ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
> total 460
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     41 2008-10-01 12:43 libjavaplugin.so -> 
> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5256 2008-10-20 11:52 
> librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  70816 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-basic-plugin.so
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 101448 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-cone-plugin.so
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 110472 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  70840 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-mully-plugin.so
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  79872 2008-10-09 06:11 
> libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
>
> [patrick at localhost ~]$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 63 2008-10-19 13:38 
> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> 
> /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so
>
> [patrick at localhost ~]$ readlink -f /usr/lib/jvm/java
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64
>

Hmm, that is odd. The latest one should have the new plugin. Can you
also post the output of:

rpm -q java-1.6.0-openjdk java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin

Deepak

> Regards,
> Patrick
>
>
>



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 24 20:56:04 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:56:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: knotify4,
	NetworkManager (NetworkManager_t) "read write" unconfined_t., ..
Message-ID: <394142.89605.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear all(selinux experts and testers) ,

despite updating selinux-policy packages and relabeling, I am still seeing denied avcs from setroubleshoot 

Selinux preventing all of the above plus ip (ifconfig_t) "read write" unconfined_t :( 

Summary:

SELinux is preventing ip (ifconfig_t) "read write" unconfined_t.

Detailed Description:

SELinux denied access requested by ip. It is not expected that this access is
required by ip and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.

Additional Information:

Source Context                unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t
Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
                              SystemHigh
Target Objects                socket [ unix_stream_socket ]
Source                        ip
Source Path                   /sbin/ip
Port                          <Unknown>
Host                          localhost.localdomain
Source RPM Packages           iproute-2.6.26-1.fc10
Target RPM Packages           
Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-3.fc10
Selinux Enabled               True
Policy Type                   targeted
MLS Enabled                   True
Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
Plugin Name                   catchall
Host Name                     localhost.localdomain
Platform                      Linux localhost.localdomain
                              2.6.27.3-34.rc1.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Tue Oct 21
                              01:39:53 EDT 2008 i686 i686
Alert Count                   43
First Seen                    Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:33:46 PM CDT
Last Seen                     Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:33:53 PM CDT
Local ID                      16290580-6020-4615-908e-c7b32e828a7a
Line Numbers                  

Raw Audit Messages            

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): arch=40000003 syscall=11 success=yes exit=0 a0=9ddcb98 a1=9dadeb0 a2=9ddcd60 a3=0 items=0 ppid=3901 pid=3912 auid=500 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=pts1 ses=1 comm="ip" exe="/sbin/ip" subj=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 key=(null)



Summary:

SELinux is preventing NetworkManager (NetworkManager_t) "read write"
unconfined_t.

Detailed Description:

SELinux denied access requested by NetworkManager. It is not expected that this
access is required by NetworkManager and this access may signal an intrusion
attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the
application is causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.

Additional Information:

Source Context                unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t
Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
                              SystemHigh
Target Objects                socket [ unix_stream_socket ]
Source                        NetworkManager
Source Path                   /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
Port                          <Unknown>
Host                          localhost.localdomain
Source RPM Packages           NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4201.fc10
Target RPM Packages           
Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-3.fc10
Selinux Enabled               True
Policy Type                   targeted
MLS Enabled                   True
Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
Plugin Name                   catchall
Host Name                     localhost.localdomain
Platform                      Linux localhost.localdomain
                              2.6.27.3-34.rc1.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Tue Oct 21
                              01:39:53 EDT 2008 i686 i686
Alert Count                   1
First Seen                    Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:35:56 PM CDT
Last Seen                     Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:35:56 PM CDT
Local ID                      6f715f57-6bca-45b3-aa02-dc34581b3423
Line Numbers                  

Raw Audit Messages            

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): arch=40000003 syscall=11 success=yes exit=0 a0=8642bd8 a1=8642a20 a2=8642ee8 a3=0 items=0 ppid=4003 pid=4004 auid=500 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=pts1 ses=1 comm="NetworkManager" exe="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager" subj=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 key=(null)


Summary:

SELinux is preventing knotify4 from making the program stack executable.

Detailed Description:

The knotify4 application attempted to make its stack executable. This is a
potential security problem. This should never ever be necessary. Stack memory is
not executable on most OSes these days and this will not change. Executable
stack memory is one of the biggest security problems. An execstack error might
in fact be most likely raised by malicious code. Applications are sometimes
coded incorrectly and request this permission. The SELinux Memory Protection
Tests (http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html) web page explains how
to remove this requirement. If knotify4 does not work and you need it to work,
you can configure SELinux temporarily to allow this access until the application
is fixed. Please file a bug report
(http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi) against this package.

Allowing Access:

Sometimes a library is accidentally marked with the execstack flag, if you find
a library with this flag you can clear it with the execstack -c LIBRARY_PATH.
Then retry your application. If the app continues to not work, you can turn the
flag back on with execstack -s LIBRARY_PATH. Otherwise, if you trust knotify4 to
run correctly, you can change the context of the executable to
unconfined_execmem_exec_t. "chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t
'/usr/bin/knotify4'" You must also change the default file context files on the
system in order to preserve them even on a full relabel. "semanage fcontext -a
-t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'"

Fix Command:

chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'

Additional Information:

Source Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
                              SystemHigh
Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
                              SystemHigh
Target Objects                None [ process ]
Source                        nspluginscan
Source Path                   /usr/bin/nspluginscan
Port                          <Unknown>
Host                          localhost.localdomain
Source RPM Packages           kdebase-runtime-4.1.2-5.fc10
Target RPM Packages           
Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-5.fc10
Selinux Enabled               True
Policy Type                   targeted
MLS Enabled                   True
Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
Plugin Name                   allow_execstack
Host Name                     localhost.localdomain
Platform                      Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686
                              #1 SMP Wed Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
Alert Count                   38
First Seen                    Mon 28 Jul 2008 10:50:50 PM CDT
Last Seen                     Fri 24 Oct 2008 03:15:46 PM CDT
Local ID                      d1193200-ba21-44ee-bdf0-5b24a80cdb04
Line Numbers                  

Raw Audit Messages            

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879346.180:21): avc:  denied  { execstack } for  pid=2823 comm="knotify4" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=process

node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224879346.180:21): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfdef000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2823 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="knotify4" exe="/usr/bin/knotify4" subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)


Summary:

SELinux is preventing dhclient (dhcpc_t) "read write" unconfined_t.

Detailed Description:

SELinux denied access requested by dhclient. It is not expected that this access
is required by dhclient and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is
also possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.

Additional Information:

Source Context                unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:SystemLow-SystemHigh
Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
                              SystemHigh
Target Objects                socket [ unix_stream_socket ]
Source                        dhclient
Source Path                   /sbin/dhclient
Port                          <Unknown>
Host                          localhost.localdomain
Source RPM Packages           dhclient-4.0.0-30.fc10
Target RPM Packages           
Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-5.fc10
Selinux Enabled               True
Policy Type                   targeted
MLS Enabled                   True
Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
Plugin Name                   catchall
Host Name                     localhost.localdomain
Platform                      Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686
                              #1 SMP Wed Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
Alert Count                   2
First Seen                    Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:45:01 PM CDT
Last Seen                     Fri 24 Oct 2008 03:17:34 PM CDT
Local ID                      4c789a6b-2778-4d68-bb82-4fa4b8547db5
Line Numbers                  

Raw Audit Messages            

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3115 comm="dhclient" path="socket:[10645]" dev=sockfs ino=10645 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3115 comm="dhclient" path="socket:[10645]" dev=sockfs ino=10645 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3115 comm="dhclient" path="socket:[10645]" dev=sockfs ino=10645 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3115 comm="dhclient" path="socket:[10645]" dev=sockfs ino=10645 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket

node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): arch=40000003 syscall=11 success=yes exit=0 a0=96aa660 a1=96aa6d0 a2=96a4b68 a3=0 items=0 ppid=3066 pid=3115 auid=500 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=pts1 ses=1 comm="dhclient" exe="/sbin/dhclient" subj=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)



I had a very difficult time updating this machine because i could not get a connection.  

[olivares at localhost ~]$ su -
Password:                   
[root at localhost ~]# ifconfig -a
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                        
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              
          Interrupt:18 Base address:0xe000                    

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host     
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                            
          RX bytes:1760 (1.7 KiB)  TX bytes:1760 (1.7 KiB)     

pan0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 36:F3:C2:B0:9B:46  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                           
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:E3:F3:09:DB  
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1     
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                        
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              

wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-16-E3-F3-09-DB-F4-EF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00                                                                             
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1                    
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0                    
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0                  
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                                          
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)                                

[root at localhost ~]# ifconfig -a | more
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                        
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              
          Interrupt:18 Base address:0xe000                    

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host     
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                            
          RX bytes:1760 (1.7 KiB)  TX bytes:1760 (1.7 KiB)     

pan0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 36:F3:C2:B0:9B:46  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[root at localhost ~]# dhclient eth0                           
Nothing to flush.                                           
PING 10.154.19.1 (10.154.19.1) from 10.154.19.179 eth0: 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 10.154.19.1 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 3000ms
pipe 3                                                                     
[root at localhost ~]# ifconfig -a | more
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                        
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              
          Interrupt:18 Base address:0xe000                    

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host     
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:35 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:35 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                            
          RX bytes:2096 (2.0 KiB)  TX bytes:2096 (2.0 KiB)     

pan0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 36:F3:C2:B0:9B:46  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0


I had to change the mac address of the machine to another one that could get access so that I could apply the updates.

First one knotify is a bug that I have reported:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467210

but was closed because it was not an selinux bug, who has the hot potato now?  I keep seeing this on two of my three machines :(  
Has someone else seen this?  

Thanks,

Antonio 



      



From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Fri Oct 24 20:45:44 2008
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:45:44 +0200
Subject: Dependency problem with gstreamer-plugins-bad
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W40271D9C498A4F1258D72FD92B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY124-W42E0CF664B548B3CEED93AD92B0@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810241224t6f7a26e4y37c0fbb33efd3a0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY124-W40271D9C498A4F1258D72FD92B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20081024224544.5c1d66d8.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:36:31 -0500, Christopher Stover wrote:

> 
> You are 100% right Antolio!  I don't know what I was thinking.  I closed that bug and opened a new one on RPM Fusion, https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92.
> 

Slap the directfb package maintainer (in Fedora Rawhide!) for releasing an
ABI-incompatible upgrade, which jumps from libdirect-1.0.so.0 to
libdirect-1.2.so.0:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=808528



From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 24 21:40:20 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher Stover)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:40:20 -0500
Subject: Dependency problem with gstreamer-plugins-bad
In-Reply-To: <20081024224544.5c1d66d8.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
References: <BAY124-W42E0CF664B548B3CEED93AD92B0@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810241224t6f7a26e4y37c0fbb33efd3a0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY124-W40271D9C498A4F1258D72FD92B0@phx.gbl> 
	<20081024224544.5c1d66d8.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W2153E9251335AC91096B99D92B0@phx.gbl>


Doh!  That's for the info.  I reopened the ticket for rawhide bugzilla and changed the component to directfb.

----------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:45:44 +0200
> From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Dependency problem with gstreamer-plugins-bad
> 
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:36:31 -0500, Christopher Stover wrote:
> 
>> 
>> You are 100% right Antolio!  I don't know what I was thinking.  I closed that bug and opened a new one on RPM Fusion, https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92.
>> 
> 
> Slap the directfb package maintainer (in Fedora Rawhide!) for releasing an
> ABI-incompatible upgrade, which jumps from libdirect-1.0.so.0 to
> libdirect-1.2.so.0:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=808528
> 
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> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
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From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Fri Oct 24 21:48:46 2008
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:48:46 -0500
Subject: knotify4,
	NetworkManager (NetworkManager_t) "read write" unconfined_t., ..
References: <394142.89605.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <gdtfqq$mnj$1@ger.gmane.org>

Antonio Olivares wrote:


> First one knotify is a bug that I have reported:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467210
> 
> but was closed because it was not an selinux bug, who has the hot potato
> now?  I keep seeing this on two of my three machines :( Has someone else
> seen this?

Not reproducible.  Are you *sure* you have no 3rd-party software installed?

I ask, because I've seen quite a few spurious similar reports, and they *all* were due to various 3rd-party crud (usually nvidia binary X drivers).

-- Rex




From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 24 22:05:05 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: knotify4,
	NetworkManager (NetworkManager_t) "read write" unconfined_t., ..
In-Reply-To: <gdtfqq$mnj$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <947996.47893.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu> wrote:

> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>
> Subject: Re: knotify4, NetworkManager (NetworkManager_t) "read write" unconfined_t., ..
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Cc: fedora-selinux-list at redhat.com
> Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 2:48 PM
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
> 
> 
> > First one knotify is a bug that I have reported:
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467210
> > 
> > but was closed because it was not an selinux bug, who
> has the hot potato
> > now?  I keep seeing this on two of my three machines
> :( Has someone else
> > seen this?
> 
> Not reproducible.  Are you *sure* you have no 3rd-party
> software installed?
> 
> I ask, because I've seen quite a few spurious similar
> reports, and they *all* were due to various 3rd-party crud
> (usually nvidia binary X drivers).
>
Absolutely positively sure I have no third party stuff on both machines.  How can I prove it if there is a way to prove it.

It is strange that one of the three machines in which I run rawhide works perfectly well and have no complaints on knotify.  

Thanks,

Antonio 
> 
> -- Rex
> 
> 
> -- 
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: 
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From mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de  Fri Oct 24 22:18:44 2008
From: mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam at arcor.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:18:44 +0200
Subject: Dependency problem with gstreamer-plugins-bad
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W2153E9251335AC91096B99D92B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY124-W42E0CF664B548B3CEED93AD92B0@phx.gbl>
	<4c37b6af0810241224t6f7a26e4y37c0fbb33efd3a0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY124-W40271D9C498A4F1258D72FD92B0@phx.gbl>
	<20081024224544.5c1d66d8.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>
	<BAY124-W2153E9251335AC91096B99D92B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20081025001844.69154ba1.mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de>

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:40:20 -0500, Christopher Stover wrote:

> 
> Doh!  That's for the info.  I reopened the ticket for rawhide bugzilla and changed the component to directfb.
> 

Well, it's not that easy to choose between the two bugzillas as I bet
the directfb upgrade won't be withdrawn. The damage is done. Rebuilds
are necessary. Such an incompatible upgrade is a questionable decision
so late after all the testing IMO.

This directfb upgrade was announced (and discussed briefly) on
fedora-devel-list two days ago:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg02182.html

It also breaks vlc at rpmfusion (packaged by the same person).



From alan at redhat.com  Fri Oct 24 22:20:16 2008
From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:20:16 -0400
Subject: Fedora Test Day - F10 Installation Guide
In-Reply-To: <78323d480810241006h6e35a0feq61d7ef54c5b007cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1224772432.5639.78.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<78323d480810241006h6e35a0feq61d7ef54c5b007cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081024222016.GA11296@shell.devel.redhat.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:36:26PM +0530, Mani A wrote:
> VIA C4 ?!

There is no VIA C4

The story told is that the prototype C4 processors got as far as the airport,
the security people went totally insane seeing packages marked 'C4' and it was
rebranded. Dunno if the story is true but probably it is

> VIA C3, C7, AMD Geode and Longson are not mentioned

Alan



From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Fri Oct 24 23:44:11 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:44:11 +0200
Subject: gcjwebplugin error
In-Reply-To: <20081024204118.GA9849@redhat.com>
References: <4900F1E4.9060607@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024144343.GA1568@redhat.com>
	<490202BC.60405@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024204118.GA9849@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <49025DCB.8050508@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Deepak Bhole wrote:
> * Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-24 13:16]:
>> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>>> * Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-23 17:52]:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I just updated to the latest Rawhide (x86_64) and see this message when I 
>>>> boot the laptop:
>>>>
>>>> gcjwebplugin error: Failed to run 
>>>> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/../../bin/pluginappletviewer.  For more detail 
>>>> rerun "firefox -g" in a terminal window.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> Can you please post the output of:
>>>
>>> ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
>>> ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava*
>>>
>>> and finally,
>>>
>>> readlink -f /usr/lib/jvm/java
>>>
>>> Deepak
>>
>> Hi Deepak,
>>
>> Here is the output.
>>
>> [patrick at localhost ~]$ ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
>> total 460
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     41 2008-10-01 12:43 libjavaplugin.so -> 
>> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5256 2008-10-20 11:52 
>> librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  70816 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-basic-plugin.so
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 101448 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-cone-plugin.so
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 110472 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  70840 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-mully-plugin.so
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  79872 2008-10-09 06:11 
>> libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
>>
>> [patrick at localhost ~]$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava*
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 63 2008-10-19 13:38 
>> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> 
>> /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so
>>
>> [patrick at localhost ~]$ readlink -f /usr/lib/jvm/java
>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64
>>
> 
> Hmm, that is odd. The latest one should have the new plugin. Can you
> also post the output of:
> 
> rpm -q java-1.6.0-openjdk java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
> 
> Deepak

[patrick at localhost ~]$ rpm -q java-1.6.0-openjdk java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.23.b12.fc10.x86_64
java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-0.23.b12.fc10.x86_64

Regards,
Patrick



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 05:59:41 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:59:41 -0600
Subject: ext4 question
Message-ID: <gduckf$irv$1@ger.gmane.org>

I want to experiment with ext4, so I reformatted a non-essential partition by unmounting it, running mkfs.ext4. Then I adjusted fstab with the new UUID and filesystem type for the partition. It appeared to mount correctly. I noticed that there is no lost+found. Is this how it is supposed to be?



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 06:03:03 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:03:03 -0600
Subject: ext4 question
References: <gduckf$irv$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gducqo$jhs$1@ger.gmane.org>

Petrus de Calguarium wrote:

> I noticed that there is no lost+found.
> 
Oh! Just as I began to copy files to the partition, lost+found appeared!



From dwalsh at redhat.com  Sat Oct 25 10:26:04 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:26:04 -0400
Subject: knotify4,
 NetworkManager (NetworkManager_t) "read write" unconfined_t., ..
In-Reply-To: <394142.89605.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <394142.89605.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4902F43C.6030403@redhat.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear all(selinux experts and testers) ,
> 
> despite updating selinux-policy packages and relabeling, I am still seeing denied avcs from setroubleshoot 
> 
> Selinux preventing all of the above plus ip (ifconfig_t) "read write" unconfined_t :( 
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing ip (ifconfig_t) "read write" unconfined_t.
> 
> Detailed Description:
> 
> SELinux denied access requested by ip. It is not expected that this access is
> required by ip and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
> possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
> causing it to require additional access.
> 
> Allowing Access:
> 
> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> Source Context                unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t
> Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
>                               SystemHigh
> Target Objects                socket [ unix_stream_socket ]
> Source                        ip
> Source Path                   /sbin/ip
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          localhost.localdomain
> Source RPM Packages           iproute-2.6.26-1.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-3.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   catchall
> Host Name                     localhost.localdomain
> Platform                      Linux localhost.localdomain
>                               2.6.27.3-34.rc1.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Tue Oct 21
>                               01:39:53 EDT 2008 i686 i686
> Alert Count                   43
> First Seen                    Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:33:46 PM CDT
> Last Seen                     Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:33:53 PM CDT
> Local ID                      16290580-6020-4615-908e-c7b32e828a7a
> Line Numbers                  
> 
> Raw Audit Messages            
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): arch=40000003 syscall=11 success=yes exit=0 a0=9ddcb98 a1=9dadeb0 a2=9ddcd60 a3=0 items=0 ppid=3901 pid=3912 auid=500 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=pts1 ses=1 comm="ip" exe="/sbin/ip" subj=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0 key=(null)
> 
> 
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing NetworkManager (NetworkManager_t) "read write"
> unconfined_t.
> 
> Detailed Description:
> 
> SELinux denied access requested by NetworkManager. It is not expected that this
> access is required by NetworkManager and this access may signal an intrusion
> attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of the
> application is causing it to require additional access.
> 
> Allowing Access:
> 
> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> Source Context                unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t
> Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
>                               SystemHigh
> Target Objects                socket [ unix_stream_socket ]
> Source                        NetworkManager
> Source Path                   /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          localhost.localdomain
> Source RPM Packages           NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4201.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-3.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   catchall
> Host Name                     localhost.localdomain
> Platform                      Linux localhost.localdomain
>                               2.6.27.3-34.rc1.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Tue Oct 21
>                               01:39:53 EDT 2008 i686 i686
> Alert Count                   1
> First Seen                    Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:35:56 PM CDT
> Last Seen                     Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:35:56 PM CDT
> Local ID                      6f715f57-6bca-45b3-aa02-dc34581b3423
> Line Numbers                  
> 
> Raw Audit Messages            
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=4004 comm="NetworkManager" path="socket:[11145]" dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224873356.766:92): arch=40000003 syscall=11 success=yes exit=0 a0=8642bd8 a1=8642a20 a2=8642ee8 a3=0 items=0 ppid=4003 pid=4004 auid=500 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=pts1 ses=1 comm="NetworkManager" exe="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager" subj=unconfined_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0 key=(null)
> 
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing knotify4 from making the program stack executable.
> 
> Detailed Description:
> 
> The knotify4 application attempted to make its stack executable. This is a
> potential security problem. This should never ever be necessary. Stack memory is
> not executable on most OSes these days and this will not change. Executable
> stack memory is one of the biggest security problems. An execstack error might
> in fact be most likely raised by malicious code. Applications are sometimes
> coded incorrectly and request this permission. The SELinux Memory Protection
> Tests (http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html) web page explains how
> to remove this requirement. If knotify4 does not work and you need it to work,
> you can configure SELinux temporarily to allow this access until the application
> is fixed. Please file a bug report
> (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi) against this package.
> 
> Allowing Access:
> 
> Sometimes a library is accidentally marked with the execstack flag, if you find
> a library with this flag you can clear it with the execstack -c LIBRARY_PATH.
> Then retry your application. If the app continues to not work, you can turn the
> flag back on with execstack -s LIBRARY_PATH. Otherwise, if you trust knotify4 to
> run correctly, you can change the context of the executable to
> unconfined_execmem_exec_t. "chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t
> '/usr/bin/knotify4'" You must also change the default file context files on the
> system in order to preserve them even on a full relabel. "semanage fcontext -a
> -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'"
> 
> Fix Command:
> 
> chcon -t unconfined_execmem_exec_t '/usr/bin/knotify4'
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> Source Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
>                               SystemHigh
> Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
>                               SystemHigh
> Target Objects                None [ process ]
> Source                        nspluginscan
> Source Path                   /usr/bin/nspluginscan
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          localhost.localdomain
> Source RPM Packages           kdebase-runtime-4.1.2-5.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-5.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   allow_execstack
> Host Name                     localhost.localdomain
> Platform                      Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686
>                               #1 SMP Wed Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
> Alert Count                   38
> First Seen                    Mon 28 Jul 2008 10:50:50 PM CDT
> Last Seen                     Fri 24 Oct 2008 03:15:46 PM CDT
> Local ID                      d1193200-ba21-44ee-bdf0-5b24a80cdb04
> Line Numbers                  
> 
> Raw Audit Messages            
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879346.180:21): avc:  denied  { execstack } for  pid=2823 comm="knotify4" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=process
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224879346.180:21): arch=40000003 syscall=125 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfdef000 a1=1000 a2=1000007 a3=fffff000 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2823 auid=500 uid=500 gid=500 euid=500 suid=500 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="knotify4" exe="/usr/bin/knotify4" subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
> 
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing dhclient (dhcpc_t) "read write" unconfined_t.
> 
> Detailed Description:
> 
> SELinux denied access requested by dhclient. It is not expected that this access
> is required by dhclient and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is
> also possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
> causing it to require additional access.
> 
> Allowing Access:
> 
> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> Source Context                unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:SystemLow-SystemHigh
> Target Context                unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-
>                               SystemHigh
> Target Objects                socket [ unix_stream_socket ]
> Source                        dhclient
> Source Path                   /sbin/dhclient
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          localhost.localdomain
> Source RPM Packages           dhclient-4.0.0-30.fc10
> Target RPM Packages           
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-5.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   catchall
> Host Name                     localhost.localdomain
> Platform                      Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686
>                               #1 SMP Wed Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
> Alert Count                   2
> First Seen                    Fri 24 Oct 2008 01:45:01 PM CDT
> Last Seen                     Fri 24 Oct 2008 03:17:34 PM CDT
> Local ID                      4c789a6b-2778-4d68-bb82-4fa4b8547db5
> Line Numbers                  
> 
> Raw Audit Messages            
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3115 comm="dhclient" path="socket:[10645]" dev=sockfs ino=10645 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3115 comm="dhclient" path="socket:[10645]" dev=sockfs ino=10645 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3115 comm="dhclient" path="socket:[10645]" dev=sockfs ino=10645 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3115 comm="dhclient" path="socket:[10645]" dev=sockfs ino=10645 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> 
> node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1224879454.396:26): arch=40000003 syscall=11 success=yes exit=0 a0=96aa660 a1=96aa6d0 a2=96a4b68 a3=0 items=0 ppid=3066 pid=3115 auid=500 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=pts1 ses=1 comm="dhclient" exe="/sbin/dhclient" subj=unconfined_u:system_r:dhcpc_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
> 
> 
> 
> I had a very difficult time updating this machine because i could not get a connection.  
> 
> [olivares at localhost ~]$ su -
> Password:                   
> [root at localhost ~]# ifconfig -a
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00  
>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                        
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              
>           Interrupt:18 Base address:0xe000                    
> 
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host     
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>           RX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                            
>           RX bytes:1760 (1.7 KiB)  TX bytes:1760 (1.7 KiB)     
> 
> pan0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 36:F3:C2:B0:9B:46  
>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                           
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              
> 
> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:E3:F3:09:DB  
>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1     
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                        
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              
> 
> wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-16-E3-F3-09-DB-F4-EF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00                                                                             
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1                    
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0                    
>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0                  
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                                          
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)                                
> 
> [root at localhost ~]# ifconfig -a | more
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00  
>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                        
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              
>           Interrupt:18 Base address:0xe000                    
> 
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host     
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>           RX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                            
>           RX bytes:1760 (1.7 KiB)  TX bytes:1760 (1.7 KiB)     
> 
> pan0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 36:F3:C2:B0:9B:46  
>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> [root at localhost ~]# dhclient eth0                           
> Nothing to flush.                                           
> PING 10.154.19.1 (10.154.19.1) from 10.154.19.179 eth0: 56(84) bytes of data.
> 
> --- 10.154.19.1 ping statistics ---
> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 3000ms
> pipe 3                                                                     
> [root at localhost ~]# ifconfig -a | more
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00  
>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000                        
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)              
>           Interrupt:18 Base address:0xe000                    
> 
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host     
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>           RX packets:35 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:35 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                            
>           RX bytes:2096 (2.0 KiB)  TX bytes:2096 (2.0 KiB)     
> 
> pan0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 36:F3:C2:B0:9B:46  
>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1        
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> 
> 
> I had to change the mac address of the machine to another one that could get access so that I could apply the updates.
> 
> First one knotify is a bug that I have reported:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467210
> 
> but was closed because it was not an selinux bug, who has the hot potato now?  I keep seeing this on two of my three machines :(  
> Has someone else seen this?  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Antonio 
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
The unix_stream_socket is a leaked file descriptor.

node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1224873233.717:83): avc:
denied  { read write } for  pid=3912 comm="ip" path="socket:[11145]"
dev=sockfs ino=11145 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:ifconfig_t:s0
tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tclass=unix_stream_socket

These can be dontaudited or allowed using

# grep ifconfig /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -m mypol
# semodule -i mypol.pp

Probably a bug in one of the kde routines that should be calling
fcntl(fd, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) before executing the script to bring up
the network.

The execstack one is caused by nvidia library?  Do you have a libGL on
the system somewhere which is causing this.  I think you will have to
turn on the allow_execstack boolean to get this one to go away, or
remove the proprietary software.
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sat Oct 25 10:56:49 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:56:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081025 changes
Message-ID: <20081025105649.CE8651B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sat Oct 25 06:01:12 UTC 2008

New package beediff
        Visual tool for comparing and merging files
New package clojure
        A dynamic programming language that targets the Java Virtual Machine
New package jmol
        An open-source Java viewer for chemical structures in 3D
New package php-pear-Auth
        Authentication provider for PHP
New package rubygem-pam
        Ruby bindings for pam
New package rubygem-sqlite3-ruby
        Allows Ruby scripts to interface with a SQLite3 database
New package solar-kde-theme
        Solar KDE Theme
New package ume-launcher
        A clutter-based desktop launcher
New package v4l2ucp
        Video4linux universal control panel
Updated Packages:

PackageKit-0.3.8-6.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 0.3.8-6
- Customize Vendor.conf for Fedora

* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.8-5
- Bump as I forgot to add the patch.

* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.8-4
- Add a patch from upstream to change the servicepack metadata format to be
  forwards compatible so we don't let the user create invalid packs.


PyYAML-3.06-1.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 John Eckersberg <jeckersb at redhat.com> - 3.06-1
- New upstream release


anaconda-11.4.1.51-1
--------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.51-1
- Catch UnicodeDecodeError so traceback messages display anyway. (dcantrell)
- Do not write NM_CONTROLLED=yes to ifcfg files (#468028) (dcantrell)
- Log D-Bus messages at ERROR or INFO level. (dcantrell)
- Write dhcpclass to the dhclient conf file for the device (#468436)
  (dcantrell)
- Tell NetworkManager not to touch network interfaces when / is a netfs
  (hans)
- Catch more X failures and fallback to text (#467158). (clumens)
- Fix a typo when using network --gateway (#468364). (clumens)
- Fix icon (#468273) (katzj)
- Remove extra debug info. (pjones)
- Fix the damn spinner in the progress bar. (pjones)
- Fix whitespace. (pjones)
- Fix "looking for installation images" when there's no disc at all. (pjones)
- Make sure dialog deletions take effect sooner (#455676). (clumens)
- Make cdrom drive door status messages be INFO not DEBUG. (pjones)
- Don't switch to tty6 on vnc installs. (clumens)
- Update font list (#462295). (clumens)
- Don't display the entire lengthy device description (#467825). (clumens)
- Fix ext4 detection on existing partitions (#467047) (rvykydal)
- Make sure we handle the /tmp/method file for FTP correctly (#467753).
  (clumens)
- Do not write NM_CONTROLLED=yes to ifcfg files (#468028) (dcantrell)
- Revert "dhclient-script not needed for NetworkManager" (clumens)
- Skip Installation Repo when writing out repo kickstart lines. (clumens)
- Correct media check docs (#468061). (clumens)
- Many translation updates


anacron-2.3-65.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Ma??l????ov?? <mmaslano at redhat.com> 2.3-65
- rewrite init script - using fedora guidelines SysVInitScript


at-3.1.10-26.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Ma??l????ov?? <mmaslano at redhat.com> - 3.1.10-26
- update init script according to SysVInitScript


audit-1.7.8-3.fc10
------------------

augeas-0.3.3-1.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 David Lutterkort <dlutter at redhat.com> - 0.3.3-1
- New version


compat-db-4.6.21-5.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at redhat.com> 4.6.21-5
- drop support for 4.3.29
- split compat-db to compat-db45 and compat-db46 subpackages
  to avoid dependency bloat (#459710)


compiz-fusion-0.7.6-7.fc10
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.7.6-7
- Fix up winrules plugin (backport from git head)


cronie-1.2-4.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Marcela Ma??l????ov?? <mmaslano at redhat.com> - 1.2-4
- update init script


deluge-1.0.3-1.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Peter Gordon <peter at thecodergeek.com> - 1.0.3-1
- Update to new upstream release (1.0.3)


efax-0.9a-3.001114.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 0.9a-3.001114
- fix efax segfaults while sending fax, thanks to Jeff Bastian


fedora-logos-10.0.0-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 10.0.0-1
- New solar art


ganglia-3.1.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 3.1.1-1
- Update to 3.1.1

* Thu Aug 28 18:00:00 2008 Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> 3.1.0-2
- Include unowned directories.


gdal-1.5.3-1.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Balint Cristian <rezso at rdsor.ro> - 1.5.3-1
- new stable
- ship static package too
- fix some doc generation
- libdap patch for fc10 only


glib2-2.18.2-2.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Larsson <alexl at redhat.com> - 2.18.2-2
- Don't return generic fallback icons for files,
  as this means custom mimetypes don't work (from svn)


gnome-desktop-2.24.1-2.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-2
- properly initialize variable in gnome_bg_get_pixmap_from_root
  (bug 460758)


gnome-packagekit-0.3.8-2.fc10
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.8-2
- Fix the untitled window in gpk-update-viewer. Fixes #468200
- Fix the resize problem on small form factor devices. Fixes #467987


gnome-power-manager-2.24.1-2.fc10
---------------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-2
- Backport some patches from trunk to fix:
 - Duplicate buttons from X and HAL
 - Use the Sessionmanager rather than the old gnome_client_request_save
 - Ignore policy actions when the session is not active


gnome-settings-daemon-2.24.0-14.fc10
------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-14
- At fontconfig-devel buildrequires (bug 468304)


gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.11-1.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.10.11-1
- Update to 0.10.11
- Update libv4l patch


gtk2-2.14.4-3.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Larsson <alexl at redhat.com> - 2.14.4-3
- Manually check for fallback file icon since we're not
  always returning that from gio anymore (from upstream)


gvfs-1.0.2-2.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Larsson <alexl at redhat.com> - 1.0.2-2
- Don't return generic fallback icons for files,
  as this means custom mimetypes don't work (from svn)


hal-cups-utils-0.6.17-4.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh at redhat.com> 0.6.17-4
- Don't fail due to missing usb Python module (bug #468408).


kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-7.fc10
------------------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-7
- F10: use KDM default face icon from solar-kde-theme, require it


kernel-2.6.27.3-44.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 2.6.27.3-42
- Disable r8169 2.6.28 update patch, causes much bustification

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede.redhat.com> 2.6.27.3-39
- Disable the obsolete zc0301 driver (superseeded by gspca_zc3xx)

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.3-44
- Disable the snd-aw2 driver until upstream comes up with a fix.

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax at redhat.com> 2.6.27.3-43
- Hush more PCI BAR allocation failures


libepc-0.3.8-1.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.8-1
- Update to 0.3.8.
- Drop build patch.  Fixed upstream.


libgdl-2.24.0-1.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 2.24.0-1
- Version bump to 2.24.0.
- Rpaths removed by upstream.
- libgdl-gnome-1.so has been dropped.


libmtp-0.3.3-2.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.3.3-2
- Add support for the Nokia N82


logwatch-7.3.6-31.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Ivana Varekova <varekova at redhat.com> 7.3.6-31
- parse another bunch of postfix logs(#467378)


lyx-1.6.0-0.10.rc4.fc10
-----------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 1.6.0-0.10.rc4
- lyx-1.6.0rc4


mod_fcgid-2.2-6.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> 2.2-6
- SELinux policy module rewritten to merge fastcgi and system script domains
  in preparation for merge into main selinux-policy package (#462318)
- Try to determine supported SELinux policy types by reading /etc/selinux/config


moodle-1.9.3-1.fc10
-------------------
* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> - 1.9.3-1
- Updated to 1.9.3.
- Updated language packs to 22 Oct 2008 versions.


mx4j-3.0.1-7.8.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 1:3.0.1-7.8
- add %{_javadocdir}/%{name} to file list

* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 1:3.0.1-7.7
- own %{_libdir}/gcj/%{name}
- add %{_javadocdir}/%{name} to file list
- remove javadoc scriptlets
- replace /usr/sbin with %{_sbindir}

* Wed Jul  9 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1:3.0.1-7.6
- really fix license tag

* Wed Jul  9 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1:3.0.1-7.5
- drop repotag
- fix license tag

* Mon Feb 18 17:00:00 2008 Fedora Release Engineering <rel-eng at fedoraproject.org> - 1:3.0.1-7jpp.4
- Autorebuild for GCC 4.3


nautilus-2.24.1-2.fc10
----------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Larsson <alexl at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-2
- Manually check for fallback file icon since we're not
  always returning that from gio anymore (from upstream)


openoffice.org-3.0.0-9.6.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Caol??n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1:3.0.0-9.6
- add openoffice.org-3.0.0.ooo95318.system-showicons.patch to honour
  gtk-menu-images setting
- Resolves: rhbz#468288 associate text/csv with oocalc


opensp-1.5.2-10.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik at redhat.com> 1.5.2-10
- move conversion to prep, do not convert html doc(#226217)


pards-0.4-7.fc9
---------------
* Sat Oct  4 18:00:00 2008 Masahiro Hasegawa <masahase at gmail.com> - 0.4-7
- fix spec


planner-0.14.3-6.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Alex Lancaster <alexlan[AT]fedoraproject org> - 0.14.3-6
- Rebuild for new camel library from e-d-s


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.24.1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.24.1
- Add updated progress bar for solar plugin from Charlie
- Log plymouth:debug output to boot log
- Ignore sigpipe signals in daemon


qdox-1.6.1-5.2.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.6.1-5.2
- Fedora-specific: enable GCJ support

* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.6.1-5.1
- Fedora-specific: remove repolib
- Fedora-specific: use java_cup not java-cup
- Fedora-specific: don't use jmock

* Tue Jul 29 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.6.1-5
- remove bootstrap binaries
- patch build for newer jflex
- patch build to disable failing tests on JDK6
- BuildRequires: jmock
- fix version in ant build.xml
- fix location of byaccj and jflex output files
- fix apidoc location
- correctly set CLASSPATH and OPT_JAR_LIST

* Mon Jul 28 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.6.1-4
- fix jflex part of build
- GCJ fixes
- fix javadoc Requires

* Sat Jul 26 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.6.1-3
- build without maven
- fix repolib permissions


qgtkstyle-0.0-0.2.20081024svn820.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Shawn Starr <spstarr at fedoraproject.org> 0.0-0.2.20081024svn820
- New upstream snapshot.
- Various speed improvements and stability.


redhat-menus-10.0.0-2.fc10
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 10.0.0-2
- One more directory rename. Thank you, gnome-menus


rpm-4.6.0-0.rc1.5
-----------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Panu Matilainen <pmatilai at redhat.com>
- Make noarch sub-packages actually work
- Fix defaultdocdir logic in installplatform to avoid hardwiring mandir

* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at redhat.com>
- update compat-db dependencies (#459710)


sblim-cmpi-base-1.5.7-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Vitezslav Crhonek <vcrhonek at redhat.com> - 1.5.7-1
- Update to 1.5.7
  Resolves: #468325


sblim-cmpi-devel-1.0.5-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Vitezslav Crhonek <vcrhonek at redhat.com> - 1.0.5-1
- Update to 1.0.5
  Resolves: #468326


sblim-testsuite-1.2.5-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Vitezslav Crhonek <vcrhonek at redhat.com> - 1.2.5-1
- Update to 1.2.5
  Resolves: #468327


sblim-wbemcli-1.6.0-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Vitezslav Crhonek <vcrhonek at redhat.com> - 1.6.0-1
- Update to 1.6.0
  Resolves: #468328


selinux-policy-3.5.13-7.fc10
----------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.13-7
- Dontaudit domains trying to write to .xsession-errors

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.13-6
- Allow nsplugin to look at autofs_t directory


squid-3.0.STABLE10-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Henrik Nordstrom <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> - 7:3.0.STABLE10-1
- upgrade to latest upstream


swfdec-mozilla-0.8.2-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org> - 0.8.2-1
- Update to 0.8.2.
- Update source url.


totem-2.24.2-3.fc10
-------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org> - 2.24.2-3
- rebuild for new libepc.


Summary:
Added Packages: 9
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 52
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	gnome-python2-gdl-2.19.1-20.fc10.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.i386 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.i386 requires libgnome-desktop-2.so.2
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.x86_64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.x86_64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-python2-gdl-2.19.1-20.fc10.x86_64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.i386 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.x86_64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.x86_64 requires libgnome-desktop-2.so.2()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.ppc requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-python2-gdl-2.19.1-20.fc10.ppc requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.ppc requires libgnome-desktop-2.so.2
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libgnome-desktop-2.so.2()(64bit)





From dbhole at redhat.com  Sat Oct 25 14:13:52 2008
From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:13:52 -0400
Subject: gcjwebplugin error
In-Reply-To: <49025DCB.8050508@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
References: <4900F1E4.9060607@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024144343.GA1568@redhat.com>
	<490202BC.60405@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024204118.GA9849@redhat.com>
	<49025DCB.8050508@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <20081025141350.GA14197@redhat.com>

* Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-24 19:44]:
> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>> * Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-24 13:16]:
>>> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>>>> * Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-23 17:52]:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just updated to the latest Rawhide (x86_64) and see this message when 
>>>>> I boot the laptop:
>>>>>
>>>>> gcjwebplugin error: Failed to run 
>>>>> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/../../bin/pluginappletviewer.  For more 
>>>>> detail rerun "firefox -g" in a terminal window.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>
>>>> Can you please post the output of:
>>>>
>>>> ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
>>>> ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava*
>>>>
>>>> and finally,
>>>>
>>>> readlink -f /usr/lib/jvm/java
>>>>
>>>> Deepak
>>>
>>> Hi Deepak,
>>>
>>> Here is the output.
>>>
>>> [patrick at localhost ~]$ ls -l /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
>>> total 460
>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     41 2008-10-01 12:43 libjavaplugin.so -> 
>>> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   5256 2008-10-20 11:52 
>>> librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  70816 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-basic-plugin.so
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 101448 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-cone-plugin.so
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 110472 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  70840 2008-10-09 06:11 libtotem-mully-plugin.so
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  79872 2008-10-09 06:11 
>>> libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
>>>
>>> [patrick at localhost ~]$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjava*
>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 63 2008-10-19 13:38 
>>> /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -> 
>>> /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so
>>>
>>> [patrick at localhost ~]$ readlink -f /usr/lib/jvm/java
>>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64
>>>
>>
>> Hmm, that is odd. The latest one should have the new plugin. Can you
>> also post the output of:
>>
>> rpm -q java-1.6.0-openjdk java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
>>
>> Deepak
>
> [patrick at localhost ~]$ rpm -q java-1.6.0-openjdk java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
> java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.23.b12.fc10.x86_64
> java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-0.23.b12.fc10.x86_64
>

Ah, that is an older version -- one that uses gcjwebplugin. Rawhide
should have a newer one that uses IcedTeaPlugin. Try updating and let
me know if the problem exists.

Thanks!
Deepak

> Regards,
> Patrick



From fedora at leemhuis.info  Sat Oct 25 15:04:44 2008
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:04:44 +0200
Subject: Second steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins:
 Enabling RPM Fusion for users of livna-testing!
Message-ID: <4903358C.6010609@leemhuis.info>

Hi!

Find below a cut'n'pasted and slightly enhanced version of a post from
my blog FYI:


As you'll likely have heard by now: RPM Fusion ( http://rpmfusion.org ),
the merger of Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna gets closer to its official
release/start. Most of the packages from Livna have been imported and
build for RPM Fusion already, hence we now begin to slowly enable RPM 
Fusion for users of Livna by activating the RPM Fusion free and
nonfree repos for users of livna's F8 and F9 testing repos *now*.

The process works like this: I added the rpmfusion-release packages for 
RPM Fusion's free and nonfree repos to the livna repo for F8 and F9; 
afterwards I built new livna-release for F8 and F9 that is available in 
  livna-testing for F8 and F9 now; those two livna-release packages 
track the two rpmfusion-release packages in with a hard dep. That way 
all users that installed livna properly (e.g. by installing the 
livna-release package) and enabled the testing repos will now get RPM 
Fusion enabled automatically.

Note, nearly all of livna's packages have been imported and build for 
RPM Fusion, but a few are still missing. So you should leave livna repos 
enabled for now if you want everything. Once all the packages have a new 
home we'll let the rpmfusion-nonfree-release package obsolete livna-release.

The plan is to move regular livna users of F8 and F9 over to RPM Fusion 
with the same trick sooner or later. But some things in RPM Fusion still 
need to get brought in shape before we start considering that. But if 
you want you can already help by using and testing RPM Fusion for F8 and 
F9 by running this command:

> rpm -ivh \
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm \
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm

It's even easier now if you already have livna enabled already:

> yum install rpmfusion-free-release rpmfusion-nonfree-release

RPM Fusion's Bugtracker (please report all issues here and not on the
mailing lists!):
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/

Mailing lists for RPM Fusion users (includes users of the devel branch)
http://lists.rpmfusion.org/mailman/listinfo/rpmfusion-users

Please spread the news! tia!

CU
knurd

P.S.: Just a reminder while at it: Some of you might have noticed 
already, the livna mailing lists (like freeworld{,-graphics}@livna.org) 
are dead since a few weeks;  the hard disk in Anvil's mailman host died 
afaik (I don't know more details; sorry). But Livna will be superseded 
by RPM Fusion soon anyway, so simply use the those lists from rpmfusion 
from now on. They should serve well for the remaining time, as all the 
livna contributors should  be subscribed there as well. Sorry for the 
trouble.

P.P.S.: Sorry for crossposting this to five lists, but it seemed the 
right thing to do for this announcement...



From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Sat Oct 25 15:28:38 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:28:38 +0200
Subject: gcjwebplugin error
In-Reply-To: <20081025141350.GA14197@redhat.com>
References: <4900F1E4.9060607@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024144343.GA1568@redhat.com>
	<490202BC.60405@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024204118.GA9849@redhat.com>
	<49025DCB.8050508@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081025141350.GA14197@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <49033B26.2010506@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Deepak Bhole wrote:
[snip]
> Ah, that is an older version -- one that uses gcjwebplugin. Rawhide
> should have a newer one that uses IcedTeaPlugin. Try updating and let
> me know if the problem exists.

Just updated and from a quick check it appears that problem is gone. 
Thank you for your help.

Regards,
Patrick





From fedora at leemhuis.info  Sat Oct 25 16:47:59 2008
From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:47:59 +0200
Subject: Second steps of the transition from Livna to RPM Fusion begins:
 Enabling RPM Fusion for users of livna-testing!
In-Reply-To: <1224951796.31574.12.camel@arekh.okg>
References: <4903358C.6010609@leemhuis.info>
	<1224951796.31574.12.camel@arekh.okg>
Message-ID: <49034DBF.5020109@leemhuis.info>

On 25.10.2008 18:23, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le samedi 25 octobre 2008 ? 17:04 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis a ?crit :
>> Find below a cut'n'pasted and slightly enhanced version of a post from
>> my blog FYI:
>> As you'll likely have heard by now: RPM Fusion ( http://rpmfusion.org ),
>> the merger of Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna gets closer to its official
>> release/start. 
> 
> BTW,
> If rpmfusion can not use the modern proxy-friendly createro it should
> really define http_caching=packages in its yum repo files.

Updating createrepo seems like the way better plan to me instead of that 
workaround. Could you be so kind and tell me which createrepo version we 
need a least to get a "proxy-friendly createro"? Or is the answer "just 
use the latest and greatest" (host is a rhel5 or centos5)?

Cu
knurd



From mfran1952 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 25 17:26:55 2008
From: mfran1952 at yahoo.com (Michael Francis)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:26:55 -0400
Subject: rann222@gmail.com
Message-ID: <f1a961940810251026h365b613fuceb30ef6512569cf@mail.gmail.com>


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From dbhole at redhat.com  Sat Oct 25 18:46:05 2008
From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:46:05 -0400
Subject: gcjwebplugin error
In-Reply-To: <49033B26.2010506@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
References: <4900F1E4.9060607@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024144343.GA1568@redhat.com>
	<490202BC.60405@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081024204118.GA9849@redhat.com>
	<49025DCB.8050508@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081025141350.GA14197@redhat.com>
	<49033B26.2010506@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <20081025184605.GA14899@redhat.com>

* Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-25 11:28]:
> Deepak Bhole wrote:
> [snip]
>> Ah, that is an older version -- one that uses gcjwebplugin. Rawhide
>> should have a newer one that uses IcedTeaPlugin. Try updating and let
>> me know if the problem exists.
>
> Just updated and from a quick check it appears that problem is gone. Thank 
> you for your help.
>

Awesome. Thank _you_ for testing and reporting! :)

Deepak

> Regards,
> Patrick
>
>
>



From caf at omen.com  Sat Oct 25 21:41:21 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:41:21 -0700
Subject: Rawhide GUI install fuzzy and hard to read
Message-ID: <49039281.9050107@omen.com>

On a Dell 2405 1920x1200 the text on the Rawhide GUI install is
fuzzy and hard to read.  Once installed the display is crisp and
clear as expected.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From caf at omen.com  Sat Oct 25 21:46:57 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:46:57 -0700
Subject: Saturday's Rawhide Ethernet
Message-ID: <490393D1.60506@omen.com>

The 64 bit pxeboot file loaded and installed without problems
from the Realtek ethernet.

Despite entering a static IP address, Rawhide installed with a
DHCP address.  The network manager GUIs crash when
attempting to set things right.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From caf at omen.com  Sat Oct 25 21:55:18 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:55:18 -0700
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
Message-ID: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>

After installing the Nvidia driver I tried to enable special effects
but was thwarted by an AVC denial.  I couldn't get the acceleration
enabled until I turned off SElinux.

It seems with Fedora and SElinux is it simply a matter of time
before SElinux throws a spanner in the works at which time
I have to get rid of it.

A security tool that is incompatible with normal use to the
extent it must be disabled offers no real security.  Perhaps
it should be an add-on for security geeks instead of a default
annoyance.     

Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From bgamari at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 22:32:54 2008
From: bgamari at gmail.com (Ben Gamari (FOSS))
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:32:54 -0400
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
Message-ID: <49039E96.1050600@gmail.com>

There should be no need to entirely disable SELinux. In my several
months of using Rawhide, I have never had an issue with SELinux and the
security that it provides is more than worth the one-in-a-thousand
chance of a minor annoyance. You need to keep in mind that using the
NVidia binary driver is definitely not an ideal case when it comes to
problem-free operation of your installation. I had a bad enough time
keeping the NVidia blob from crashing my machine when I was still on an
NVidia graphics platform; I can certainly believe you are having some
annoyances with something like SELinux.

Speaking from personal experience, if you want trouble-free operation of
your Linux box, dump the NVidia card. I've had nothing but good
experiences with Intel integrated hardware (although it might not meet
your requirements) and AMD hardware is quickly gaining open-source
support. Even recent releases of AMD's binary driver have been
surprisingly unproblematic in my experience.

Regardless, the AVC denial that you reported should be fairly simple to
resolve without fully disabling SELinux. You should look at
setroubleshooter and determine exactly what the nature of the denial
is.  Then open a bug with the output of setroubleshooter so that the
issue can be fixed.

- Ben


Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> After installing the Nvidia driver I tried to enable special effects
> but was thwarted by an AVC denial.  I couldn't get the acceleration
> enabled until I turned off SElinux.
>
> It seems with Fedora and SElinux is it simply a matter of time
> before SElinux throws a spanner in the works at which time
> I have to get rid of it.
>
> A security tool that is incompatible with normal use to the
> extent it must be disabled offers no real security.  Perhaps
> it should be an add-on for security geeks instead of a default
> annoyance.    
> Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
> Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
>  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
> 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665
>



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 23:59:12 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:59:12 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
<caf at omen.com> wrote:
> A security tool that is incompatible with normal use to the
> extent it must be disabled offers no real security.  Perhaps
> it should be an add-on for security geeks instead of a default
> annoyance.

+1
Yep, I say leave the question out of the installer, and default it to
*disabled*.
Annoyances "one-in-a-thousand"? Ha. I see 779 out of 10913 bugs (1 in
14, if you will). Considering some are legit software issues, I'd
estimate one-in-a-hundred "annoyances".
Where is the ROI? Have there been documented cases where SElinux
stopped malicious things dead in their tracks? (outside of selinux
development situations, of course...)

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 26 00:04:12 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:34:12 +0530
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4903B3FC.9020906@fedoraproject.org>

Jerry Amundson wrote:

  Have there been documented cases where SElinux
> stopped malicious things dead in their tracks? (outside of selinux
> development situations, of course...)

Sure. Mitigation is useful as well. Listing all of them would take more 
time but here is a sample:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9176

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0002.html
http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/10131.html
http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/17727.html

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0960.html
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-3304

Rahul



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 00:24:20 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:24:20 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <4903B3FC.9020906@fedoraproject.org>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903B3FC.9020906@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810251724x2271c40ck660bd5e79b9c1c77@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>
>  Have there been documented cases where SElinux
>>
>> stopped malicious things dead in their tracks? (outside of selinux
>> development situations, of course...)
>
> Sure. Mitigation is useful as well. Listing all of them would take more time
> but here is a sample:

Probably useful one time in a thousand.
Basic software and network security practices easily cover your examples.

Yet another case of the user having their experience poisoned by the
medicine, but the "doctors" insist we take it, "it's good for us"!

Chuck, kudos to you and everybody else who puts up with selinux. I
can't take the productivity hit it eventually causes with things like
this.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 26 00:31:09 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:01:09 +0530
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810251724x2271c40ck660bd5e79b9c1c77@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>	<4903B3FC.9020906@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810251724x2271c40ck660bd5e79b9c1c77@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4903BA4D.6070502@fedoraproject.org>

Jerry Amundson wrote:
> 
> Probably useful one time in a thousand.

Excellent record then.

> Basic software and network security practices easily cover your examples.

Reading the references would help and shows you otherwise. You asked for 
real life cases where SELinux has blocked attacks and you have been 
provided with some of those.

> Chuck, kudos to you and everybody else who puts up with selinux. I
> can't take the productivity hit it eventually causes with things like
> this.

Sure. You have your freedom.

Rahul



From cochranb at speakeasy.net  Sun Oct 26 01:58:00 2008
From: cochranb at speakeasy.net (Robert L Cochran)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:58:00 -0400
Subject: Fedora 10 Snap 3 Installs Nice Over HTTP, Does Not Boot Post-Install
Message-ID: <4903CEA8.9030108@speakeasy.net>

I had a flawless installation experience using Fedora 10 Snapshot 3. I
extracted and wrote the boot.iso image to a CD, used that to boot the
laptop and proceeded to do an HTTP install. I installed the snapshot to
an older Western Digital Passport external hard drive. The idea is to
connect the drive to my powered USB hub which is in turn connected to my
Dell Latitude laptop. However I tried to preserve the first two
partitions on the Passport drive. This act probably prevented the Fedora
10 system from booting after the installation? I'm not sure how to work
around it. Furthermore I encrypted the installation partitions...or I
hope I did. I hope I didn't encrypt the entire WD drive. I didn't want
the first two partitions on the drive to be encrypted.

Thanks

Bob Cochran
Greenbelt, Maryland



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 02:17:04 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:17:04 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <4903BA4D.6070502@fedoraproject.org>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903B3FC.9020906@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810251724x2271c40ck660bd5e79b9c1c77@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903BA4D.6070502@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810251917g18ac8e2ucda51ddfcc46258f@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>>
>> Probably useful one time in a thousand.
>
> Excellent record then.

Whatever.

>> Basic software and network security practices easily cover your examples.
>
> Reading the references would help and shows you otherwise. You asked for
> real life cases where SELinux has blocked attacks and you have been provided
> with some of those.

I did. We're talking about a rotten apple, and you give us a tour of
the orange grove.
It's unclear as to the origin of the nVidia driver in question, but it
matters not. The point is to have a usable desktop all of the time.
The state of an Apache web server doesn't matter, nor does some server
doing an insecure dance I'm all too familiar with, the "mambo", all of
which could be headless servers for all we know.

>> Chuck, kudos to you and everybody else who puts up with selinux. I
>> can't take the productivity hit it eventually causes with things like
>> this.
>
> Sure. You have your freedom.

Yes, and I'm not afraid to use it.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From anotherone.foryou at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 26 02:45:38 2008
From: anotherone.foryou at yahoo.com (Anotherone Foryou)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:45:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: DNS trouble using qemu host
Message-ID: <580262.60291.qm@web59609.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

I've been attempting to install the latest Fedora 10 boot.iso and snapshots in two virtual machines, and am consistently running into a network problem. I'm using both VirtualBox 2.0.4 (Vista 64 host) and Qemu (Fedora 9 host) and I see the same problem in both environments. Both hosts have no network problem, and are running with disabled firewalls.

I've installed recent Ubuntu 8.10 betas, and these have to problems with net access, so I don't believe the problem is on the host side for the Vista nor the Fedora 9 machine.

I've disabled the guest Firewall (System->Administration->Firewall) and I've disabled SELinux (System->Administration->SELinux Management).

I'm starting the Fedora guest in qemu using:
# qemu-kvm -hda fedora.img -m 768 -net nic -net user

The installed guest cannot access the network, it seems because it cannot do DNS lookups. The result is that I cannot browse the web nor use yum to download rpm packages.

In trying to find the problem, I've found I can ping the host computer:
$ping 10.0.2.2
PING 10.0.2.2 (10.0.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.0.2.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.196 ms
^C

but I can not ping the virtual machine host DNS server:
$cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 10.0.2.3

$ping 10.0.2.3
^C
--- 10.0.2.3 ping statistics ---
24 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 23871ms


I've tried restarting the Fedora 10 network:
#/etc/init.d/network restart

but that did not help.

Any idea what I can do to get a functioning network connection?

Thanks,
Jeremiah



      



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 03:05:09 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:05:09 -0500
Subject: DNS trouble using qemu host
In-Reply-To: <580262.60291.qm@web59609.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <580262.60291.qm@web59609.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810252005r5d183f9dg3c90f38dc8f0c2e@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Anotherone Foryou
<anotherone.foryou at yahoo.com> wrote:
> $cat /etc/resolv.conf
> # Generated by NetworkManager
> nameserver 10.0.2.3
>
> $ping 10.0.2.3
> ^C
> --- 10.0.2.3 ping statistics ---
> 24 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 23871ms
>
>
> I've tried restarting the Fedora 10 network:
> #/etc/init.d/network restart

Did you stop NetworkMangler?

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From kernel.zeng at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 03:10:28 2008
From: kernel.zeng at gmail.com (Wheelz)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:10:28 +0800
Subject: Yum install status char '#' doesn't proceed in the same line
Message-ID: <20081026031028.GA9774@Nalanda.localdomain>

Hi,

If locale is en_US.utf8, it's ok.

If locale is zh_CN.utf8, the proceeding '#' will not go at the same line,
just like the following:

-----------
......
running transaction
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [                                        ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [####                                    ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [########                                ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [############                            ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [################                        ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [####################                    ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [#####################                   ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [######################                  ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [########################                ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [#########################               ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [##########################              ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [###########################             ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [############################            ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [##############################          ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [###############################         ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [################################        ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [#################################       ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [##################################      ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [###################################     ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [####################################    ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [#####################################   ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [######################################  ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer [####################################### ] 
  ????           : gnome-mplayer                                            1/1 

-------------


My installation is F10 rawhide, updated to Oct.25

$ rpm -qa|grep yum
anaconda-yum-plugins-1.0-3.fc10.noarch
yum-3.2.19-6.fc10.noarch
yum-fastestmirror-1.1.17-2.fc10.noarch
PackageKit-yum-plugin-0.3.8-6.fc10.i386
yum-metadata-parser-1.1.2-10.fc10.i386
yum-utils-1.1.17-2.fc10.noarch
PackageKit-yum-0.3.8-6.fc10.i386




From anotherone.foryou at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 26 03:23:13 2008
From: anotherone.foryou at yahoo.com (Anotherone Foryou)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:23:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: DNS trouble using qemu host
Message-ID: <876017.94375.qm@web59604.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>






>> I've tried restarting the Fedora 10 network:
>> #/etc/init.d/network restart
>
>Did you stop NetworkMangler?
>
>jerry

Thanks for the suggestion. Just tried it but still have the problem.

Jeremiah



      



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 26 03:31:01 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:01:01 +0530
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810251917g18ac8e2ucda51ddfcc46258f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>	<4903B3FC.9020906@fedoraproject.org>	<6d06ce20810251724x2271c40ck660bd5e79b9c1c77@mail.gmail.com>	<4903BA4D.6070502@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810251917g18ac8e2ucda51ddfcc46258f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4903E475.2080108@fedoraproject.org>

Jerry Amundson wrote:

> 
> I did. We're talking about a rotten apple, and you give us a tour of
> the orange grove.
> It's unclear as to the origin of the nVidia driver in question, but it
> matters not. The point is to have a usable desktop all of the time.
> The state of an Apache web server doesn't matter, nor does some server
> doing an insecure dance I'm all too familiar with, the "mambo", all of
> which could be headless servers for all we know.

... aka "I didn't read the references provided".

Rahul



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 05:56:25 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:56:25 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <4903E475.2080108@fedoraproject.org>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903B3FC.9020906@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810251724x2271c40ck660bd5e79b9c1c77@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903BA4D.6070502@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810251917g18ac8e2ucda51ddfcc46258f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903E475.2080108@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810252256l5f8053c1tdfb52d29c718d9cc@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>
>>
>> I did. We're talking about a rotten apple, and you give us a tour of
>> the orange grove.
>> It's unclear as to the origin of the nVidia driver in question, but it
>> matters not. The point is to have a usable desktop all of the time.
>> The state of an Apache web server doesn't matter, nor does some server
>> doing an insecure dance I'm all too familiar with, the "mambo", all of
>> which could be headless servers for all we know.
>
> ... aka "I didn't read the references provided".

Are you that obtuse? Really?
Which part of "I did." was confusing to you?

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From mike at miketc.net  Sun Oct 26 06:27:43 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:27:43 -0500
Subject: Rawhide GUI install fuzzy and hard to read
In-Reply-To: <49039281.9050107@omen.com>
References: <49039281.9050107@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1225002463.5303.0.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 14:41 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> On a Dell 2405 1920x1200 the text on the Rawhide GUI install is
> fuzzy and hard to read.  Once installed the display is crisp and
> clear as expected.

Had same thing on a recent install, on an nvidia chipset.  Think it's
pic/anaconda problem, not hardware related though.

-- 
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302 at fedoraproject.org



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 26 09:16:29 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:46:29 +0530
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810252256l5f8053c1tdfb52d29c718d9cc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>	<4903B3FC.9020906@fedoraproject.org>	<6d06ce20810251724x2271c40ck660bd5e79b9c1c77@mail.gmail.com>	<4903BA4D.6070502@fedoraproject.org>	<6d06ce20810251917g18ac8e2ucda51ddfcc46258f@mail.gmail.com>	<4903E475.2080108@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810252256l5f8053c1tdfb52d29c718d9cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4904356D.4000006@fedoraproject.org>

Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram
> <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>>
>>> I did. We're talking about a rotten apple, and you give us a tour of
>>> the orange grove.
>>> It's unclear as to the origin of the nVidia driver in question, but it
>>> matters not. The point is to have a usable desktop all of the time.
>>> The state of an Apache web server doesn't matter, nor does some server
>>> doing an insecure dance I'm all too familiar with, the "mambo", all of
>>> which could be headless servers for all we know.
>> ... aka "I didn't read the references provided".
> 
> Are you that obtuse? Really?
> Which part of "I did." was confusing to you?

Now that the discussion has moved to whether or not I am obtuse, instead 
of SELinux, we shall end it here.

Rahul



From alan at redhat.com  Sun Oct 26 10:33:41 2008
From: alan at redhat.com (Alan Cox)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:33:41 -0400
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <4903E475.2080108@fedoraproject.org>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903B3FC.9020906@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810251724x2271c40ck660bd5e79b9c1c77@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903BA4D.6070502@fedoraproject.org>
	<6d06ce20810251917g18ac8e2ucda51ddfcc46258f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903E475.2080108@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20081026103341.GA18961@shell.devel.redhat.com>

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:01:01AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> ... aka "I didn't read the references provided".

He's exercising his freedom not to listen or read ;)



From markkuk at tuubi.net  Sun Oct 26 10:45:40 2008
From: markkuk at tuubi.net (Markku Kolkka)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:45:40 +0200
Subject: F10Snap3 KDE LiveCD: no graphics on Mobility Radeon 9600
Message-ID: <200810261245.40597.markkuk@tuubi.net>

I tested Fedora-10-Snap3-i686-Live-KDE on my HP nc6000 laptop, 
and the system booted to a black screen. Ctrl-Alt-F1 gave me a 
working text console, so the problem is failing X 
startup. /var/log/messages contains:

Oct 25 22:01:50 localhost kernel: 
[drm:drm_buffer_object_validate] *ERROR* Failed moving buffer.
Oct 25 22:01:50 localhost kernel: 
[drm:drm_buffer_object_validate] *ERROR* Out of aperture space 
or DRM memory quota.
Oct 25 22:01:50 localhost kernel: mtrr: base(0x98b48000) is not 
aligned on a size(0x400000) boundary
Oct 25 22:01:50 localhost kernel: [drm:drm_mode_getfb] *ERROR* 
invalid framebuffer id
Oct 25 22:01:50 localhost kdm[2948]: X server died during startup
Oct 25 22:01:50 localhost kdm[2948]: X server for display :0 
cannot be started, session disabled

If I use the "nomodeset" parameter the system works normally. I 
guess modesetting bugs should be filed against kernel?

-- 
 Markku Kolkka
 markku.kolkka at iki.fi



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Sun Oct 26 11:48:57 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:48:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081026 changes
Message-ID: <20081026114857.65B021B8001@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Sun Oct 26 06:01:25 UTC 2008

New package gupnp-tools
        GUPnP-tools is a collection of dev tools utilising GUPnP and GTK+
Updated Packages:

alienarena-7.20-2.fc10
----------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 7.20-2 
- drop old "don't search data path" patch
- call alienarena-wrapper in .desktop file


ardour-2.6-3.fc10
-----------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Anthony Green <green at redhat.com> 2.6-3
- BuildRequire libcurl-devel.

* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Anthony Green <green at redhat.com> 2.6-2
- Upgrade gcc43 patch to apply with fuzz = 0.

* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Anthony Green <green at redhat.com> 2.6-1
- New upstream release 2.6.
- Update SConstruct patch.


audit-1.7.8-4.fc10
------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 1.7.8-4
- If kernel is in immutable mode, auditd should not send enable command

* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 1.7.8-3
- Fix ausearch interpretting i386 syscalls on x86_64 machine


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.2.svn1363_trunk.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 1363


erlang-R12B-4.3.fc10
--------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Gerard Milmeister <gemi at bluewin.ch> - R12B-4.1
- new release R12B-4


evince-2.24.1-3.fc10
--------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 2.24.1-2
- Drop dependency on desktop-file-utils (#463048).

* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-3
- Require dbus-glib-devel, not just dbus-devel (#465281, Dan Winship)


fedora-logos-10.0.0-2.fc10
--------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 10.0.0-2
- Add (current version of) Fedora logo for SolarComet KSplash theme


generic-logos-10.0.0-2.fc10
---------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 10.0.0-2
- Add (current version of) KDE logo for SolarComet KSplash theme


hspell-1.0-11.fc10
------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 1.0-11
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.

* Thu Jul 31 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.0-10
- fix license tag

* Wed May 14 18:00:00 2008 Caolan McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> - 1.0-9
- Resolves: rhbz#313231 build hspell.so instead of a .a


java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-1.1.b12.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 1:1.6.0-1.1.b12
- Updated sources to include latest liveconnect fixes.

* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 1:1.6.0-1.1.b12
- Removed --enable-pulse-java. Causes some TCK tests to fail.


jd-2.0.3-0.1.svn2416_trunk.fc10
-------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 2416


kde-settings-4.1-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1-1
- default to Solar artwork


kdepim-4.1.2-4.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-4
- add missing BR soprano-devel


kernel-2.6.27.4-47.rc3.fc10
---------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-47.rc3
- Fix LBA48 on pata_it821x RAID volumes.

* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-46.rc3
- Fix I/O errors on jmicron USB/ATA bridges (#465539)

* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-45.rc3
- 2.6.27.4-rc3
  Dropped patches:
    linux-2.6-x86-acpi-fix-resume-on-64-bit-UP-systems.patch
  Upstream reverts:
    ext-avoid-printk-floods-in-the-face-of-directory-corruption.patch


kid3-1.1-1.fc10
---------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 1.1-1
- 1.1.


libmtp-0.3.3-4.fc10
-------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.3.3-4
- Update device list from CVS and fix the build

* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.3.3-3
- Add support for more Nokia phones from their WMP10 drivers


libsndfile-1.0.17-6.fc10
------------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Thienemann <andreas at bawue.net> - 1.0.17-6
- Removed spurious #endif in the libsndfile.h wrapper. Thx to Edward
  Sheldrake for finding it. Fixes #468508.
- Fix build for autoconf-2.63

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Thienemann <andreas at bawue.net> - 1.0.17-5
- Fixed multilib conflict. #342401
- Made flac support actually work correctly.


mksh-36-1.fc10
--------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 36-1
- Upgrade to 36


mono-2.0.1-12.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0.12
- Update to 2.0.1
- remove selinux patch
- remove s390 disable

* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 2.0-11.2
- fixed no ownership of etc-mono-mconfig directory


ncdu-1.4-1.fc10
---------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Richard Fearn <richardfearn at gmail.com> - 1.4-1
- new upstream version


obex-data-server-0.4.1-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.4.1-1
- Update to 0.4.1


perl-DBD-Mock-1.37-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.37-1
- update to 1.37


perl-DateTime-Format-DBI-0.032-1.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.032-1
- update to 0.032
- drop more_dbds.patch -- incorperated upstream


rcssbase-12.1.2-1.fc10
----------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Hedayat Vatankhah <hedayat at grad.com> 12.1.2-1
- Updated to the latest release version


rcsslogplayer-12.1.2-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Hedayat Vatankhah <hedayat at grad.com> 12.1.2-1
- Updated to the latest released package


rcssserver-12.1.4-1.fc10
------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Hedayat Vatankhah <hedayat at grad.com> 12.1.4-1
- Updated to the latest version.


selinux-policy-3.5.13-8.fc10
----------------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.13-8
- Allow mozilla to run with unconfined_execmem_t


solar-kde-theme-0.1.8-2.fc10
----------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.1.8-2
- fix wallpaper symlinks in the KSplash theme

* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.1.8-1
- use latest version of Solar wallpapers, includes 5:4 (1600x1280) image

* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.1.7-1
- fix coordinates of KSplash animations not to segfault on small resolutions

* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.1.6-1
- symlink all copies of wallpapers instead of hardlinking
- put wallpapers in directories with their actual resolution for KSplash
  (fixes ksplashx segfault)
- remove Fedora logo, add Requires: system-logos instead
- use bz2 instead of gz for the tarball


Summary:
Added Packages: 1
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 28
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	gnome-python2-gdl-2.19.1-20.fc10.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.i386 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.i386 requires libgnome-desktop-2.so.2
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.i386 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.x86_64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.x86_64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-python2-gdl-2.19.1-20.fc10.x86_64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.i386 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.x86_64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.x86_64 requires libgnome-desktop-2.so.2()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.ppc requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-python2-gdl-2.19.1-20.fc10.ppc requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.ppc requires libgnome-desktop-2.so.2
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	gnome-build-0.2.4-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
	iml-devel-1.0.2-3.fc10.ppc64 requires iml = 0:1.0.2-3.fc10
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	rubygem-hoe-1.8.1-2.fc10.noarch requires rubygem(rake) >= 0:0.8.3
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
	ume-launcher-0.6.3-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libgnome-desktop-2.so.2()(64bit)





From davidsen at tmr.com  Sun Oct 26 13:31:48 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:31:48 -0400
Subject: DNS trouble using qemu host
In-Reply-To: <580262.60291.qm@web59609.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <580262.60291.qm@web59609.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49047144.2040009@tmr.com>

Anotherone Foryou wrote:
> I've been attempting to install the latest Fedora 10 boot.iso and snapshots in two virtual machines, and am consistently running into a network problem. I'm using both VirtualBox 2.0.4 (Vista 64 host) and Qemu (Fedora 9 host) and I see the same problem in both environments. Both hosts have no network problem, and are running with disabled firewalls.
> 
> I've installed recent Ubuntu 8.10 betas, and these have to problems with net access, so I don't believe the problem is on the host side for the Vista nor the Fedora 9 machine.
> 
> I've disabled the guest Firewall (System->Administration->Firewall) and I've disabled SELinux (System->Administration->SELinux Management).
> 
> I'm starting the Fedora guest in qemu using:
> # qemu-kvm -hda fedora.img -m 768 -net nic -net user
> 
> The installed guest cannot access the network, it seems because it cannot do DNS lookups. The result is that I cannot browse the web nor use yum to download rpm packages.
> 
> In trying to find the problem, I've found I can ping the host computer:
> $ping 10.0.2.2
> PING 10.0.2.2 (10.0.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 10.0.2.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.196 ms
> ^C
> 
> but I can not ping the virtual machine host DNS server:
> $cat /etc/resolv.conf
> # Generated by NetworkManager
> nameserver 10.0.2.3
> 
> $ping 10.0.2.3
> ^C
> --- 10.0.2.3 ping statistics ---
> 24 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 23871ms
> 
> 
> I've tried restarting the Fedora 10 network:
> #/etc/init.d/network restart
> 
> but that did not help.
> 
> Any idea what I can do to get a functioning network connection?
> 
Leave all of the "-net" stuff off. You need to do more if you want to run a 
server in KVM, but for a more normal machine the defaults are fine. I'm writing 
this on a KVM VM, for instance.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From quantumburnz at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 26 14:02:39 2008
From: quantumburnz at hotmail.com (Christopher Stover)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:02:39 -0500
Subject: Progress on sound problems
In-Reply-To: <1224858887.5222.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1224858887.5222.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W30B2346E1BCE8C5D3F1543D9250@phx.gbl>


> Lennart tracked down some hard-to-find bug. My initial testing showed
> encouraging results: flash works, music doesn't die after an hour
> anymore.

I'm not sure if Lennart is on this mailing list or not but hopefully someone can pass this onto him if he's not.  I haven't experienced any problems with my music suddenly stopping and having to "pulseaudio -k" the past few days.  I just wanted to say excellent work and thank you so much for finding the bug!

Chris



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sun Oct 26 14:23:48 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:23:48 -0600
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
Message-ID: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>

OK - I have successfully loaded up F10 Snap 3 on my ThinkPad T400.
Twice. I had to make a couple of changes along the way, including some
specific CMOS configuration changes, but I generally have that part
working.

The first post-install boot always hangs after the firstboot
configuration screens are done and you click the Finish button. After a
hard reset, the system does come up normally. Everything seems to work
at a base level. ATI graphics configure properly in unaccelerated mode,
but only after specifically setting Discrete Graphics in CMOS.
Autoswitch between Discreet and Internal does NOT work - it confuses and
kills X. Hopefully the accelerated drivers will work better...

I'm trying now to get VMware Workstation 6.5 up and running. It installs
without incident from the Bundle file. The RPM doesn't. In both cases,
Workstation simply refuses to start. Trying from the command line, I get
messages back that several modules and services are not running. Does
anybody have this working??? This is the next critical piece for me to
solve...

Cheers,

Chris

--
==============================
"If you are calm while all around you is chaos,
then you probably haven't fully understood
the magnitude of the situation."

--Unknown



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 15:54:12 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:54:12 -0600
Subject: java plugin question
Message-ID: <ge23r4$p46$1@ger.gmane.org>

I decided to update java-1.6.0-openjdk and java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin from koji this morning.

No problems, but a mysterious message:

/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/lib/i386/gcjwebplugin.so has not been configured as an alternative for libjavaplugin.so

I checked alternatives and this is true.

1. Should I set it up in alternatives, as is implied?
2. I am using the sun plugin for firefox, but konqueror needs gcjwebplugin.so, doesn't it?




From covertcodeop1 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 16:20:25 2008
From: covertcodeop1 at gmail.com (Zenko Klapko Jr.)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:20:25 -0400
Subject: Fedora Test Day - F10 Installation Guide
In-Reply-To: <20081024222016.GA11296@shell.devel.redhat.com>
References: <1224772432.5639.78.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<78323d480810241006h6e35a0feq61d7ef54c5b007cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081024222016.GA11296@shell.devel.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <162a15970810260920l35af4431xb61b89b43135a4f1@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Alan Cox <alan at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:36:26PM +0530, Mani A wrote:
> > VIA C4 ?!
>
> There is no VIA C4
>
> The story told is that the prototype C4 processors got as far as the
> airport,
> the security people went totally insane seeing packages marked 'C4' and it
> was
> rebranded. Dunno if the story is true but probably it is
>

Right, because terrorists get all of their plans from watching Looney Tunes.


>
> > VIA C3, C7, AMD Geode and Longson are not mentioned
>
> Alan
>
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From bruno at wolff.to  Sun Oct 26 15:13:38 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:13:38 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 18:59:12 -0500,
  Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep, I say leave the question out of the installer, and default it to
> *disabled*.

Disabled is the worst of the three options because you will need to do a
relabel if you ever turn it back on. And you don't get useful logs of any
problems.



From jamundso at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 18:39:40 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:39:40 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 18:59:12 -0500,
>  Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yep, I say leave the question out of the installer, and default it to
>> *disabled*.
>
> Disabled is the worst of the three options because you will need to do a
> relabel if you ever turn it back on. And you don't get useful logs of any
> problems.

I repeat. I think disabled is the best option for the largest
audience. Overall, the majority of time spent re-labeling occurs when
we disable selinux in firstboot.
No selinux. No problems. Everything else that needs to be logged gets logged.

Very simple. Disable SElinux by default. Enable it (at firstboot,
etc.) if you want it. The world becomes a better computing place. :)

jerry
-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From denis at poolshark.org  Sun Oct 26 18:57:49 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:57:49 +0100
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
Message-ID: <4904BDAD.7040705@poolshark.org>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> OK - I have successfully loaded up F10 Snap 3 on my ThinkPad T400.
> Twice. I had to make a couple of changes along the way, including some
> specific CMOS configuration changes, but I generally have that part
> working.
> 
> The first post-install boot always hangs after the firstboot
> configuration screens are done and you click the Finish button. After a
> hard reset, the system does come up normally. Everything seems to work
> at a base level. ATI graphics configure properly in unaccelerated mode,
> but only after specifically setting Discrete Graphics in CMOS.
> Autoswitch between Discreet and Internal does NOT work - it confuses and
> kills X. Hopefully the accelerated drivers will work better...
> 
> I'm trying now to get VMware Workstation 6.5 up and running. It installs
> without incident from the Bundle file. The RPM doesn't. In both cases,
> Workstation simply refuses to start. Trying from the command line, I get
> messages back that several modules and services are not running. Does
> anybody have this working??? This is the next critical piece for me to
> solve...

You need to run vmware as root the first time, so it can compile its 
host-side kernel modules. Once that's done, quit and restart it.

I have no problems with Workstation 6.5 here. There's a scsi_wait race 
condition on the initrd image which causes problems for rawhide as 
*guest*, but there was a workaround posted to this list some time ago. 
open-vm-tools is being reviewed on RPMFusion, so that'll be available soon.



From adam.huffman at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 19:16:07 2008
From: adam.huffman at gmail.com (Adam Huffman)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:16:07 +0000
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <1224827198.3595.16.camel@eagle.danny.cz>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
	<48F00BC6.9000003@redhat.com> <48F904DC.6010904@redhat.com>
	<48FF0CA6.7030105@redhat.com>
	<1224827198.3595.16.camel@eagle.danny.cz>
Message-ID: <608c44bf0810261216p653f56aau950d1dff9a040f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Dan Hor?k <dan at danny.cz> wrote:
> I got mine too, but unfortunately without battery and power supply. They
> were probably "lost" somewhere in the process. The original power supply
> needs an US-to-EU plug adapter anyway, so I can solve it with 3rd party
> one with the same specs. I have already mailed Greg about that issue.
>
>
>                Dan
>

Yes, mine arrived (in the UK) on Friday, but I haven't been able to
find an adapter for the power supply yet.  I did buy one but the
adapter won't fit because of a round guard around the socket.

Could you let me know what you hear about using other supplies?

Adam


> Jehudi Castro p??e v St 22. 10. 2008 v 13:21 +0200:
>> XO laptops arrived to the Czech Republic.
>>
>> Marco Rhodes wrote:
>> > Hi all -
>> >
>> > Just wanted to give a quick update on  where I am with testing.
>> >
>> > I saw the message about needing the 4GB SD card a bit late. As someone
>> > else pointed out in another thread, Circuit City has no problem taking
>> > the 2 GB card back for a full refund (within 30 days). Problem is,
>> > they stopped selling the 4GB version. So I will be ordering mine
>> > online and will rush the shipment so that I can get in on the fun.
>> >
>> > I did update my XO and have received my dev key. The updated interface
>> > is very nice.  No problems connecting to my WPA2 network at home either.
>
>
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
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From bgamari at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 19:17:58 2008
From: bgamari at gmail.com (Ben Gamari (FOSS))
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:17:58 -0400
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>

Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 18:59:12 -0500,
>>  Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Yep, I say leave the question out of the installer, and default it to
>>> *disabled*.
>>>       
>> Disabled is the worst of the three options because you will need to do a
>> relabel if you ever turn it back on. And you don't get useful logs of any
>> problems.
>>     
>
> I repeat. I think disabled is the best option for the largest
> audience. Overall, the majority of time spent re-labeling occurs when
> we disable selinux in firstboot.
> No selinux. No problems. Everything else that needs to be logged gets logged.
>
> Very simple. Disable SElinux by default. Enable it (at firstboot,
> etc.) if you want it. The world becomes a better computing place. :)
>
> jerry
>   

Or we can simply decide that sticking our collective head in the sand is
not an option when it comes to security, leave it enabled, and fix the
remaining issues. There is no reason why SELinux needs to cause any
issues in the vast majority of cases. Sure, if you are running a poorly
tested/proprietary configuration (e.g. NVidia blob) then you will
probably not have a completely glitch-free experience. However,
degrading the security of the entire platform to cater to a small subset
of users is simply not acceptable.

Security-wise, we in the Linux community have been extremely lucky
thusfar. We represent a small percentage of Internet users and thus
desktop exploits aren't particularly prevalent. However, if and when
Linux becomes a sizeable player on the desktop/end-user space, we are
going to have far greater security issues. Look at Windows. Even without
considering the brain-dead security defaults, Windows XP is a security
nightmare. Many of the issues that Windows has with malware could be
mitigated with proper containment through MAC. Giving any application or
service open access to anything on the system is a recipe for disaster.
The fact is, the least-privilege principle simply can't realistically be
implemented using only a primitive user/group privilege system. A
perception that Linux is weak in security will only further hamper
future adoption.

We have already seen early indications of the remarkable power that
containment holds. To disable SELinux by default would be to remove a
vital part of our security subsystem. Nobody can deny that there are
still issues, but these can be fixed and once they are, the result will
be a more secure computing environment for all.

- Ben



From tim at maths.tcd.ie  Sun Oct 26 17:11:09 2008
From: tim at maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:11:09 +0000
Subject: All these XO threads
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<1223572252.23405.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<20081009191716.GA3169@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
	<1223584744.3241.46.camel@flatline>
Message-ID: <ge28aa$6er$2@ger.gmane.org>

James Laska wrote:

> The main reason for suggesting we communicate Fedora testing on the XO
> on this list was to build on the experiences of the already established
> fedora-test-list community. 

Slightly OT, but is the XO actually a good buy,
compared say with the EeePC ?

I thought it was meant to poor countries.
Does the US now fall into this category?
Sorry.




From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 19:35:43 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:05:43 -0430
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
Message-ID: <1225049743.27796.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 08:23 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> Trying from the command line, I get
> messages back that several modules and services are not running.

Do you get this?:

        % vmware
        vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
        for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following
        command:
        /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
        
If so, run /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl (as root). Good luck though, recent
vmware versions have variable results, at least on x86_64 (I ended up
switching to VirtualBox).

poc



From jpazdziora at redhat.com  Sun Oct 26 19:54:52 2008
From: jpazdziora at redhat.com (Jan Pazdziora)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:54:52 +0100
Subject: XO: SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second
Message-ID: <20081026195452.GA5354@corona.adelton.com>


Hello,

I have my 4GB SanDisk with the Fedora live, I've copied the developer
key to /security/develop.sig.

Upon booting the XO, I get

	Type the Esc key to interrupt automatic startup
	SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second
	Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\olpc.fth  Arguments:
	Boot device: /sd/disk:\syslinux\vmlinuz0  Arguments: root=UUID=6462-3436 riitfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=6462-3436 quiet  rhgb  persistenthome=mtd0 reset_overlay
	SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second
	<buffer at ffb676d0>:33:
	Can't open boot device

Then I do

	dir sd:\boot

on the ok prompt, the first attempts returns

	SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second
	Can't open directory

but when I rerun the dir command, I get the /boot listing (showing
OLPC.FTH there). So the XO seems to be able to talk to the SD card,
at least somehow.

When I try

	boot sd:\boot\olpc.fth

I get

	Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\olpc.fth  Arguments: root=UUID=6462-3436 riitfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=6462-3436 quiet  rhgb  persistenthome=mtd0 reset_overlay
	SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second

	Can't open boot device

and when I do it again I get

	Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\olpc.fth  Arguments: root=UUID=6462-3436 riitfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=6462-3436 quiet  rhgb  persistenthome=mtd0 reset_overlay
	<buffer at ffb651d8>:2: Can't find word to replace

but when I do just

	boot

Fedora starts to boot.

Is the

	SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second

message an expected thing?

-- 
Jan Pazdziora
Satellite Engineering, Red Hat



From gayleard at eircom.net  Sun Oct 26 20:38:50 2008
From: gayleard at eircom.net (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:38:50 +0000
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
Message-ID: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>

Has anyone found the F10 has done something nasty to their BIOS?

I transferred the Fedora-10-Snap3-i686-Live-KDE.iso
to a USB stick following the instructions at
<http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-making-media.html>.
This went fine; I like the new (I think) liveusb-creator program.

I used the USB stick to install Fedora-10 on two Thinkpads.
Then I tried it on a machine with an Asus/AMD motherboard.
The Live CD seemed to start OK, but then it froze.

Now for the disaster.
When I went to re-boot the machine
it said "NO Keyboard Detected --- Press F1".
On pressing F1 I found that the keyboard was indeed disabled.
But after a couple of seconds Fedora - the default OS - booted,
and when it started the keyboard was working normally.

I changed the default to Windows in grub.conf , and re-booted.
Again, I could not change the chosen OS as the keyboard was disabled,
but Windows started up fine.

I could not get back to Fedora easily, as I could not access grub.conf
in Windows; but I was able to use a Knoppix CD
to mount Fedora \boot , and edit grub.conf .

Now, my question is:
Was the fact that this happened after running F10
a pure coincidence?

I'm intending to look at the CMOS battery,
and perhaps try re-installing the BIOS.
Any other suggestions gratefully received.


-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland



From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Sun Oct 26 20:47:58 2008
From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?cmphbWVz?=)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:47:58 +0100
Subject: Snap Releases
In-Reply-To: <1224730684.10618.19.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <f30915689ca4c35a2b490bcdc6fb845b@fcp.surfsite.org>

> 
> Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 13:01 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:27:52PM -0400, Jim wrote:
> > 
> > > What are these FC 10 Snap 1, 2 releases, ISO's ??
> > > I have FC 10 Beta installed and a lot of problems.
> > > 
> > 
> > Most are related to getting the XO hardware working with F10
> > (explore http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki [1])
> > 
> 
> Actually, the Snaps are a more general part of the release process now
> so that we can get more testing of media-based things beyond just alpha
> + beta + preview release.
> 
> There's just a nice side effect that they're handy and work out well for
> some of the testing on the XO :)
> 
> Jeremy

>
>
If you guys are going to be using these in the future for live cd's, you need to make sure you aren't overburning these things because a hell of a lot of cd/dvd burners *DON'T* support this, and the snap 3 386 live cd iso are overburned [703 megs instead of the standard 650/702 megs].

None of my Liteon dvd burners support overburning and I don't think the older sony cdwr drive I have in a older computer supports it either.

If you are going to be overburning these things, at least say so, so people won't waste their time downloading something that's going to be unusable on their machines.


Links:
------
[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki


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From david at gnsa.us  Sun Oct 26 21:29:30 2008
From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:29:30 -0400
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Ben Gamari (FOSS) <bgamari at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 18:59:12 -0500,
>>>  Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep, I say leave the question out of the installer, and default it to
>>>> *disabled*.
>>>>
>>> Disabled is the worst of the three options because you will need to do a
>>> relabel if you ever turn it back on. And you don't get useful logs of any
>>> problems.
>>>
>>
>> I repeat. I think disabled is the best option for the largest
>> audience. Overall, the majority of time spent re-labeling occurs when
>> we disable selinux in firstboot.
>> No selinux. No problems. Everything else that needs to be logged gets logged.
>>
>> Very simple. Disable SElinux by default. Enable it (at firstboot,
>> etc.) if you want it. The world becomes a better computing place. :)
>>
>> jerry
>>
>
> Or we can simply decide that sticking our collective head in the sand is
> not an option when it comes to security, leave it enabled, and fix the
> remaining issues. There is no reason why SELinux needs to cause any
> issues in the vast majority of cases. Sure, if you are running a poorly
> tested/proprietary configuration (e.g. NVidia blob) then you will
> probably not have a completely glitch-free experience. However,
> degrading the security of the entire platform to cater to a small subset
> of users is simply not acceptable.
>
> Security-wise, we in the Linux community have been extremely lucky
> thusfar. We represent a small percentage of Internet users and thus
> desktop exploits aren't particularly prevalent. However, if and when
> Linux becomes a sizeable player on the desktop/end-user space, we are
> going to have far greater security issues. Look at Windows. Even without
> considering the brain-dead security defaults, Windows XP is a security
> nightmare. Many of the issues that Windows has with malware could be
> mitigated with proper containment through MAC. Giving any application or
> service open access to anything on the system is a recipe for disaster.
> The fact is, the least-privilege principle simply can't realistically be
> implemented using only a primitive user/group privilege system. A
> perception that Linux is weak in security will only further hamper
> future adoption.
>
> We have already seen early indications of the remarkable power that
> containment holds. To disable SELinux by default would be to remove a
> vital part of our security subsystem. Nobody can deny that there are
> still issues, but these can be fixed and once they are, the result will
> be a more secure computing environment for all.
>
> - Ben
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>

While I agree with Ben's statements - I'll also add one other comment.
If you've ever had to report a problem with SELinux and gone to the
quite minimal effort to file a bug listing the AVC denial errors in
place, you'd see that Dan Walsh and company work very fast to resolve
it. I'll admit that I have only reported problems twice (once in
channel and once in Bugzilla) but never did I go more than 24 hours
before a fix was available  (even if it was a koji build) (That said
it's also relatively easy to fix on your own as well - but it's worth
it to get the changes upstream in the targeted policy.)
Moreover permissive domains REALLY changes the landscape.
I wish I could remember who to attribute this to, but someone on
-devel suggested that the same arguments occurred when firewalls were
really starting to become commonplace - a lack of knowledge of how to
manipulate and handle them caused repeated calls for their removal.
Mandatory Access Control isn't going away, and is really one of the
shining examples of Fedora leading the way with something and making
it far easier to use than it was.



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sun Oct 26 21:35:54 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:35:54 -0600
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <4904BDAD.7040705@poolshark.org>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<4904BDAD.7040705@poolshark.org>
Message-ID: <1225056954.7913.7.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 19:57 +0100, Denis Leroy wrote:
> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >
> > kills X. Hopefully the accelerated drivers will work better...
> > 
> > I'm trying now to get VMware Workstation 6.5 up and running. It installs
> > without incident from the Bundle file. The RPM doesn't. In both cases,
> > Workstation simply refuses to start. Trying from the command line, I get
> > messages back that several modules and services are not running. Does
> > anybody have this working??? This is the next critical piece for me to
> > solve...
> 
> You need to run vmware as root the first time, so it can compile its 
> host-side kernel modules. Once that's done, quit and restart it.

No dice. I reinstalled and then ran as root the first time. Here's what
I get as error messages back:

Logging to /tmp/vmware-root/setup-5583.log
modinfo: could not find module vmmon
modinfo: could not find module vmnet
modinfo: could not find module vmblock
modinfo: could not find module vmci
modinfo: could not find module vsock
modinfo: could not find module vmmon
modinfo: could not find module vmnet
modinfo: could not find module vmblock
modinfo: could not find module vmci
modinfo: could not find module vsock

I don't seen an other errors at all. the old vmware-config.pl file is
also not present.

Still searching for answers...

Cheers,

Chris


--
==================================
By all means marry;
If you get a good wife, you'll be happy.
If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.

--Socrates



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Sun Oct 26 21:37:39 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:37:39 -0600
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <1225049743.27796.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<1225049743.27796.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <1225057059.7913.10.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 15:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 08:23 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > Trying from the command line, I get
> > messages back that several modules and services are not running.
> 
> Do you get this?:
> 
>         % vmware
>         vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
>         for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following
>         command:
>         /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
>         
> If so, run /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl (as root). Good luck though, recent
> vmware versions have variable results, at least on x86_64 (I ended up
> switching to VirtualBox).

See my other post for details. I get:

modinfo: could not find module vmmon
modinfo: could not find module vmnet
modinfo: could not find module vmblock
modinfo: could not find module vmci
modinfo: could not find module vsock
modinfo: could not find module vmmon
modinfo: could not find module vmnet
modinfo: could not find module vmblock
modinfo: could not find module vmci
modinfo: could not find module vsock

...as the only error messages.The program vmware-config.pl is not
present at all.

Cheers,

Chris

-- 
======================
"If we don't succeed,
we run the risk of failure."

-- Former President Bill Clinton



From tim at maths.tcd.ie  Sun Oct 26 21:52:17 2008
From: tim at maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:52:17 +0000
Subject: Did Fedora-10 kill my computer?
Message-ID: <ge2ope$ptc$1@ger.gmane.org>


I have installed F10 on a couple of ThinkPad T43s, using a USB stick.
But when I tried this on a machine with an Asus motherboard
and AMD CPU, it seemed to run OK but then froze.

Since then, whenever I boot the computer, I get the message
"NO Keyboard Detected" and am invited to press F1.
As the keyboard does not work, the machine boots into
the default OS, which was Fedora.
Once it has booted the keyboard works fine.
I changed the default OS in grub.conf to Windows,
and that booted in the same way.
I thought at first I could never get back to Fedora,
as I cannot edit grub.conf in Windows.
However, a Knoppix CD booted fine,
so I can change back to Fedora as and when I wish.

But my question is, did running F10 cause this problem,
or was it a complete coincidence?

Note that it is quite difficult to deal with the problem,
as I cannot get into the BIOS since the keyboard does not work
until I have booted into Fedora or Windows.

I haven't spent much time trying to solve this problem,
as the machine runs fine once it starts.
I guess I will have a look at the CMOS battery,
and perhaps re-install the BIOS.
Any other suggestions gratefully received.






From d.terweij at nettuning.net  Sun Oct 26 21:52:48 2008
From: d.terweij at nettuning.net (Danny.Terweij)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:52:48 +0100
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
Message-ID: <CAD9B59363894ADE86E2E4C107FA1DC1@prvd321>

From: "Timothy Murphy" <gayleard at eircom.net>


> Now, my question is:
> Was the fact that this happened after running F10
> a pure coincidence?

> I'm intending to look at the CMOS battery,
> and perhaps try re-installing the BIOS.
> Any other suggestions gratefully received.

There is no OS known that touching a BIOS. A OS does READ the BIOS. So yes, 
maybe you need to replace CMOS backup battery.

Also, on a old mainboard i have just 1 HDD set in bios, rest of the 3 HDD's 
are not set. Still any kind of Linux does see all the drives. So maybe Linux 
does not read BIOS at all.

Good luck. 



From katzj at redhat.com  Sun Oct 26 21:53:26 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:53:26 -0400
Subject: XO: SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second
In-Reply-To: <20081026195452.GA5354@corona.adelton.com>
References: <20081026195452.GA5354@corona.adelton.com>
Message-ID: <1225058006.23788.18.camel@aglarond.local>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 20:54 +0100, Jan Pazdziora wrote:
> Upon booting the XO, I get
> 
> 	Type the Esc key to interrupt automatic startup
> 	SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second

What version of the firmware do you have on the XO?  It should say on
bootup.  If it's not Q2E18, you'll want to upgrade

Jeremy



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 22:04:18 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:34:18 +0530
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
In-Reply-To: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
Message-ID: <78323d480810261504s45e23d14w8b72b0f27a95e787@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net> wrote:
>
> I'm intending to look at the CMOS battery,
> and perhaps try re-installing the BIOS.
> Any other suggestions gratefully received.
>
>
Do you have a Graphics card on the system?

Look at the keyboard too and the mainboard

Anyway Reset the bios first

Best

A. Mani



-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From tom.horsley at att.net  Sun Oct 26 22:03:52 2008
From: tom.horsley at att.net (Tom Horsley)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:03:52 -0400
Subject: k3b and latest rawhide kernel observations
Message-ID: <20081026180352.40dc126a@zooty>

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440343

is a fairly long standing bug about verify not working in k3b.

I just added comment #53 to it about my experiences today
with new rawhide kernel:

It claimed to have successfully written a dual layer DVD-R
disk, but then ejected and never reloaded the disk, instead
going into a 100% CPU usage loop (had to kill -9 it).

Later, after trying to get sha1sum of all the files to do
a manual verify, I found that one of the written files
consistently got an I/O error when I tried to read it
(perhaps it crosses the layer boundary?).

That was my last blank dual layer disk, so I don't know if
I'd get the same results trying again or not :-). Anyone
else fooled with dual layer DVDs and k3b on rawhide?



From tim at maths.tcd.ie  Sun Oct 26 23:11:50 2008
From: tim at maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:11:50 +0000
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<78323d480810261504s45e23d14w8b72b0f27a95e787@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ge2tek$7ig$1@ger.gmane.org>

Mani A wrote:

>> I'm intending to look at the CMOS battery,
>> and perhaps try re-installing the BIOS.
>> Any other suggestions gratefully received.

> Do you have a Graphics card on the system?

According to lspci, it is a
VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter

> Look at the keyboard too and the mainboard

But I don't see how either of these can be at fault,
since the machine works perfectly under Windows and Linux,
once it is booted.
The keyboard is only disabled during boot-up.




From caf at omen.com  Sun Oct 26 23:31:45 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:31:45 -0700
Subject: Sunday's Rawhide 32
Message-ID: <4904FDE1.7000108@omen.com>

Install still fuzzy on 1920x1200 lcd

Static IP defined, installed DHCP anyway

add/remove software had to be reinitialized and some commands repeated

xmms fails to open sound unless run as root

after telling SElinux to leave xlinrad alone, xlinrad segfaults
trying to access sound.  Run as root, xlinrad initializes sound
but then hangs.  The same xlinrad source code works with FC9
on my server and on a few iterations of FC10 but not for some
time now.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Mon Oct 27 00:02:35 2008
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:02:35 +0900
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
In-Reply-To: <78323d480810261504s45e23d14w8b72b0f27a95e787@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<78323d480810261504s45e23d14w8b72b0f27a95e787@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4905051B.7080804@herakles.homelinux.org>

Mani A wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net> wrote:
>> I'm intending to look at the CMOS battery,
>> and perhaps try re-installing the BIOS.
>> Any other suggestions gratefully received.
>>
>>
> Do you have a Graphics card on the system?
> 
> Look at the keyboard too and the mainboard
> 
> Anyway Reset the bios first

Did you actually read the problem description? How is he to reset the BIOS?


-- 

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From davidsen at tmr.com  Mon Oct 27 00:06:38 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:06:38 -0400
Subject: Snap Releases
In-Reply-To: <f30915689ca4c35a2b490bcdc6fb845b@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <1224730684.10618.19.camel@aglarond.local>
	<f30915689ca4c35a2b490bcdc6fb845b@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <4905060E.9020405@tmr.com>

rjames wrote:
>> Jeremy Katz wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 13:01 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:27:52PM -0400, Jim wrote:
>>>
>>>> What are these FC 10 Snap 1, 2 releases, ISO's ??
>>>> I have FC 10 Beta installed and a lot of problems.
>>>>
>>> Most are related to getting the XO hardware working with F10
>>> (explore http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki [1])
>>>
>> Actually, the Snaps are a more general part of the release process now
>> so that we can get more testing of media-based things beyond just alpha
>> + beta + preview release.
>>
>> There's just a nice side effect that they're handy and work out well for
>> some of the testing on the XO :)
>>
>> Jeremy
> 
>>
> If you guys are going to be using these in the future for live cd's, you need to make sure you aren't overburning these things because a hell of a lot of cd/dvd burners *DON'T* support this, and the snap 3 386 live cd iso are overburned [703 megs instead of the standard 650/702 megs].
> 
> None of my Liteon dvd burners support overburning and I don't think the older sony cdwr drive I have in a older computer supports it either.
> 
> If you are going to be overburning these things, at least say so, so people won't waste their time downloading something that's going to be unusable on their machines.
> 
It's easy to look at the size of the image and the capacity of the CD and decide 
if it will fit. I have 720 and 730 CDs from an obscure source called Office Max. 
You can often get them from newegg as well, I never ordered anything special, 
they just came that way.

You may have to use the overburn option to cdrecord, I don't ever recall doing 
that, but it's there. I use the cdrecord from the author rather than the hack 
one which comes with Fedora and some other distributions, that might be a factor.

In short, I burn these on a variety of burners, CD and DVD, and have no problem 
with the size. You might have some small media, in which case a quick investment 
  would be in order, but larger sizes are available.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Mon Oct 27 00:08:27 2008
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:08:27 +0900
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
In-Reply-To: <CAD9B59363894ADE86E2E4C107FA1DC1@prvd321>
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<CAD9B59363894ADE86E2E4C107FA1DC1@prvd321>
Message-ID: <4905067B.6020405@herakles.homelinux.org>

Danny.Terweij wrote:
> From: "Timothy Murphy" <gayleard at eircom.net>
> 
> 
>> Now, my question is:
>> Was the fact that this happened after running F10
>> a pure coincidence?
> 
>> I'm intending to look at the CMOS battery,
>> and perhaps try re-installing the BIOS.
>> Any other suggestions gratefully received.
> 
> There is no OS known that touching a BIOS. A OS does READ the BIOS. So 
> yes, maybe you need to replace CMOS backup battery.
> 
> Also, on a old mainboard i have just 1 HDD set in bios, rest of the 3 
> HDD's are not set. Still any kind of Linux does see all the drives. So 
> maybe Linux does not read BIOS at all.
> 
> Good luck.

Fair bit of nonsense there:
1. I have systems with Windows XP applications to configure the BIOS. 
Therefore, an OS _can_ touch the BIOS.
2. I don't have information to hand, but there are Linux tools to 
manipulate the BIOS settings, and that may be enough to hide the keyboard.
3. Linux does use the BIOS, just not for everything.
Look at the kernel messages, for strings containing BIOS. This, for example:
parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE]

Become geekier, read this:-)
http://www.openfirmware.info/Welcome_to_OpenBIOS

-- 

Cheers
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From jamundso at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 00:13:14 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:13:14 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810261713p44875e80lfa396c1c24293516@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:29 PM, David Nalley <david at gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Ben Gamari (FOSS) <bgamari at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Or we can simply decide that sticking our collective head in the sand is
>> not an option when it comes to security, leave it enabled, and fix the
>> remaining issues. There is no reason why SELinux needs to cause any
>> issues in the vast majority of cases. Sure, if you are running a poorly
>> tested/proprietary configuration (e.g. NVidia blob) then you will
>> probably not have a completely glitch-free experience. However,
>> degrading the security of the entire platform to cater to a small subset
>> of users is simply not acceptable.
>>
>> Security-wise, we in the Linux community have been extremely lucky
>> thusfar. We represent a small percentage of Internet users and thus
>> desktop exploits aren't particularly prevalent. However, if and when
>> Linux becomes a sizeable player on the desktop/end-user space, we are
>> going to have far greater security issues. Look at Windows. Even without
>> considering the brain-dead security defaults, Windows XP is a security
>> nightmare. Many of the issues that Windows has with malware could be
>> mitigated with proper containment through MAC. Giving any application or
>> service open access to anything on the system is a recipe for disaster.
>> The fact is, the least-privilege principle simply can't realistically be
>> implemented using only a primitive user/group privilege system. A
>> perception that Linux is weak in security will only further hamper
>> future adoption.
>>
>> We have already seen early indications of the remarkable power that
>> containment holds. To disable SELinux by default would be to remove a
>> vital part of our security subsystem. Nobody can deny that there are
>> still issues, but these can be fixed and once they are, the result will
>> be a more secure computing environment for all.
>>
>> - Ben
...
> While I agree with Ben's statements - I'll also add one other comment.
> If you've ever had to report a problem with SELinux and gone to the
> quite minimal effort to file a bug listing the AVC denial errors in
> place, you'd see that Dan Walsh and company work very fast to resolve
> it. I'll admit that I have only reported problems twice (once in
> channel and once in Bugzilla) but never did I go more than 24 hours
> before a fix was available  (even if it was a koji build) (That said
> it's also relatively easy to fix on your own as well - but it's worth
> it to get the changes upstream in the targeted policy.)
> Moreover permissive domains REALLY changes the landscape.
> I wish I could remember who to attribute this to, but someone on
> -devel suggested that the same arguments occurred when firewalls were
> really starting to become commonplace - a lack of knowledge of how to
> manipulate and handle them caused repeated calls for their removal.
> Mandatory Access Control isn't going away, and is really one of the
> shining examples of Fedora leading the way with something and making
> it far easier to use than it was.

Ben, you had me at "Windows". ;-)
Thank you also, David, for reassurance on the resolution side of
things. My misconception up to now had been that bz'd selinux issues
were lumped in with everything else. Good to hear that's not the case.
And of course, my apologies to Rahul and Bruno for erring on the side
of the dramatic. I have been know, on occasion, to howl at the moon.
I'm reaching over to one of my other laptops, menu item for
s-c-selinux, good, enforcing mode, relabel yes, done.
I see this not as an end, but as a beginning! :-)

jerry

ps. Relabel is complete. logged in, wireless connected, just like any
regular day, but *safer*. Brings a bit of a tear to me eyes! :)

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Mon Oct 27 00:12:21 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:12:21 +0200
Subject: ntfs no longer maps
Message-ID: <49050765.1070701@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

For the past week or so ntfs partitions are no longer auto mounting. In 
addition clicking on the icon in Computer says that it can't mount the 
file system because a parameter is wrong. This happens on both a 32 bit 
and a 64 bit f10 system. ntfs3g is installed on both systems.



From tim at maths.tcd.ie  Mon Oct 27 01:20:44 2008
From: tim at maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:20:44 +0000
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<CAD9B59363894ADE86E2E4C107FA1DC1@prvd321>
Message-ID: <ge3509$pjq$1@ger.gmane.org>

Danny.Terweij wrote:

>> Now, my question is:
>> Was the fact that this happened after running F10
>> a pure coincidence?
> 
>> I'm intending to look at the CMOS battery,
>> and perhaps try re-installing the BIOS.
>> Any other suggestions gratefully received.
> 
> There is no OS known that touching a BIOS. A OS does READ the BIOS. So
> yes, maybe you need to replace CMOS backup battery.

I'm almost completely ignorant of the inside of a computer,
but is the BIOS normally the only NVRAM inside?




From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 01:27:18 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:57:18 +0530
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
In-Reply-To: <4905051B.7080804@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<78323d480810261504s45e23d14w8b72b0f27a95e787@mail.gmail.com>
	<4905051B.7080804@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <78323d480810261827p49ab5847gd2af57af7e66b8a2@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:32 AM, John Summerfield
<debian at herakles.homelinux.org> wrote:
> Mani A wrote:
>> Anyway Reset the bios first
>
> Did you actually read the problem description? How is he to reset the BIOS?

By simply removing the battery for a few secs or 'by changing the
jumpers as per instructions in the manual'.
Of course, this is ... if the bios has actually been corrupted.

 It is also possible that the mainboard has a power related problem


Best

A. Mani


-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From tim at maths.tcd.ie  Mon Oct 27 01:39:08 2008
From: tim at maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:39:08 +0000
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<78323d480810261504s45e23d14w8b72b0f27a95e787@mail.gmail.com>
	<4905051B.7080804@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<78323d480810261827p49ab5847gd2af57af7e66b8a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ge362p$rb2$1@ger.gmane.org>

Mani A wrote:

>> Did you actually read the problem description? How is he to reset the
>> BIOS?
> 
> By simply removing the battery for a few secs or 'by changing the
> jumpers as per instructions in the manual'.
> Of course, this is ... if the bios has actually been corrupted.
> 
>  It is also possible that the mainboard has a power related problem

As I said, Fedora and Windows XP both run perfectly on this machine,
once it has booted.
Is that compatible with a mainboard power problem?





From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 01:40:27 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:10:27 +0530
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
In-Reply-To: <4905067B.6020405@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<CAD9B59363894ADE86E2E4C107FA1DC1@prvd321>
	<4905067B.6020405@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <78323d480810261840y5a8ac57fu70d0bfe14997e5c@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:38 AM, John Summerfield
<debian at herakles.homelinux.org> wrote:
> 2. I don't have information to hand, but there are Linux tools to manipulate
> the BIOS settings, and that may be enough to hide the keyboard.

pnpbios, vgabios and there are lots more. libsmbios is a key library.
ASUS provides a tool too.

The OP has not indicated the mainboard and bios specs yet.

Best

A. Mani


-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From tdiehl at rogueind.com  Mon Oct 27 01:49:08 2008
From: tdiehl at rogueind.com (Tom Diehl)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:49:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Todays rawhide will not boot.
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810262143020.30524@bullwinkle.tntechs.com>

Hi,

Is anyone having a problem booting anaconda on today's rawhide? I have an HP
dc5100mt I am trying to install it on. When I boot it it hangs at:

detecting hardware...
Waiting for hardware to initialize...

I tried both i386 and x86_64.

Any suggestions on how to get this installed? Is there some magic command line
option I can feed to the kernel at boot time to get around this?

Regards,

-- 
Tom Diehl       tdiehl at rogueind.com      Spamtrap address mtd123 at rogueind.com



From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 01:50:14 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:50:14 -0400
Subject: Sunday's Rawhide 32
In-Reply-To: <4904FDE1.7000108@omen.com>
References: <4904FDE1.7000108@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1225072214.3077.11.camel@zebes.localdomain>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 16:31 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Install still fuzzy on 1920x1200 lcd

Define "fuzzy". If you mean "Looks like an 800x600 screen stretched to
fit my LCD", that's the intended behavior; NOTABUG.

If you mean "the fonts are tiny and really hard", that's this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458738

> 
> Static IP defined, installed DHCP anyway

Can you explain this a bit more? I'm guessing: you configured the
installer to use a static IP, and after installation the new system
attempted to get a DHCP address?

> after telling SElinux to leave xlinrad alone, xlinrad segfaults
> trying to access sound.  Run as root, xlinrad initializes sound
> but then hangs.  The same xlinrad source code works with FC9
> on my server and on a few iterations of FC10 but not for some
> time now.

Crusty old linux programs like linrad and xmms probably don't understand
how to use pulseaudio. You might try using them with the 'padsp'
wrapper, which will give them the old OSS environment they expect.

-w




From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 01:53:34 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:23:34 +0530
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
In-Reply-To: <ge362p$rb2$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<78323d480810261504s45e23d14w8b72b0f27a95e787@mail.gmail.com>
	<4905051B.7080804@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<78323d480810261827p49ab5847gd2af57af7e66b8a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<ge362p$rb2$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <78323d480810261853o2f4414aem9bf8fec112454870@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Timothy Murphy <tim at maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
> Mani A wrote:
>
>>> Did you actually read the problem description? How is he to reset the
>>> BIOS?
>>
>> By simply removing the battery for a few secs or 'by changing the
>> jumpers as per instructions in the manual'.
>> Of course, this is ... if the bios has actually been corrupted.
>>
>>  It is also possible that the mainboard has a power related problem
>
> As I said, Fedora and Windows XP both run perfectly on this machine,
> once it has booted.
> Is that compatible with a mainboard power problem?

When the power button of a PC is switched on, then the keyboard draws
power immediately.
This happens even before the completion of post. So theoretically it
is possible.

Best

A. Mani



-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From jamundso at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 02:03:56 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:03:56 -0500
Subject: rawhide:selinux relabeled fs, now cannot login
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810261903k39b32c1dt94449cdf53a63f3f@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not kidding. I didn't create this problem to prove a point.. I'm
serious, I didn't! :-)
Really though, I took a laptop running rawhide, just updated this morning.
In s-c-selinux I set Enforcing. [I did *not* see a "relabeling takes
time" warning like I did in f8]
Rebooted.
Relabel started. I went to fridge, folded some clothes, whatever...
I see it rebooting, seems to come to level 5 normally. But users,
root, nobody can login, graphical, tty, nothing.
I booted in rescue, start sshd.
My root ssh login gives me
"Unable to get valid context for root"
but gives me a shell anyway. [thats good!]
SElinux startup in dmesg and boot.log are normal.
****
Snippets from /var/log/secure:

Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_selinux(kdm:session):
Error!  Unable to set jerry key creation context
system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0.
Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_unix(kdm:session):
session opened for user jerry by (uid=0)
Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_unix(kdm:session):
session closed for user jerry

Oct 26 19:57:28 JerryA-D600 login: pam_selinux(login:session): Error!
Unable to set root key creation context
system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023.
Oct 26 19:57:28 JerryA-D600 login: pam_unix(login:session): session
opened for user root by LOGIN(uid=0)
Oct 26 19:57:29 JerryA-D600 login: Authentication failure

****
Snippets from /var/log/messages:

Oct 26 19:56:14 JerryA-D600 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing kdm
(xdm_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t. For complete SELinux messages. run
sealert -l 06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57

Oct 26 19:57:29 JerryA-D600 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
login (local_login_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t. For complete SELinux
messages. run sealert -l fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831

****
Upon starting setroubleshootd, I was able to get this:

[root at localhost log]# sealert -l 06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57

Summary:

SELinux is preventing kdm (xdm_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t.

Detailed Description:

SELinux denied access requested by kdm. It is not expected that this access is
required by kdm and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.

Additional Information:

Source Context                system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
Target Context                system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0
Target Objects                None [ key ]
Source                        kdm
Source Path                   /usr/bin/kdm
Port                          <Unknown>
Host                          JerryA-D600
Source RPM Packages           kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-7.fc10
Target RPM Packages
Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-7.fc10
Selinux Enabled               True
Policy Type                   targeted
MLS Enabled                   True
Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
Plugin Name                   catchall
Host Name                     JerryA-D600
Platform                      Linux JerryA-D600 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed
                              Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
Alert Count                   4
First Seen                    Sun Oct 26 19:56:13 2008
Last Seen                     Sun Oct 26 19:59:53 2008
Local ID                      06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
Line Numbers

Raw Audit Messages

node=JerryA-D600 type=AVC msg=audit(1225069193.250:10): avc:  denied
{ create } for  pid=2227 comm="kdm"
scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tcontext=system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0 tclass=key

node=JerryA-D600 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225069193.250:10):
arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=no exit=-13 a0=6 a1=8ab6d50 a2=25
a3=8ab6d50 items=0 ppid=2173 pid=2227 auid=500 uid=0 gid=500 euid=0
suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="kdm"
exe="/usr/bin/kdm" subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
key=(null)

****
and this:
[root at localhost log]# sealert -l fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831

Summary:

SELinux is preventing login (local_login_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t.

Detailed Description:

SELinux denied access requested by login. It is not expected that this access is
required by login and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.

Additional Information:

Source Context                system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
Target Context                system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
Target Objects                None [ key ]
Source                        login
Source Path                   /bin/login
Port                          <Unknown>
Host                          JerryA-D600
Source RPM Packages           util-linux-ng-2.14.1-3.fc10
Target RPM Packages
Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-7.fc10
Selinux Enabled               True
Policy Type                   targeted
MLS Enabled                   True
Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
Plugin Name                   catchall
Host Name                     JerryA-D600
Platform                      Linux JerryA-D600 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed
                              Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
Alert Count                   3
First Seen                    Sun Oct 26 19:57:28 2008
Last Seen                     Sun Oct 26 20:00:06 2008
Local ID                      fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
Line Numbers

Raw Audit Messages

node=JerryA-D600 type=AVC msg=audit(1225069206.632:18): avc:  denied
{ create } for  pid=2178 comm="login"
scontext=system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tcontext=system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=key

node=JerryA-D600 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225069206.632:18):
arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=no exit=-13 a0=3 a1=8586d68 a2=31
a3=8586d68 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2178 auid=0 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0
fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=tty2 ses=2 comm="login"
exe="/bin/login" subj=system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
key=(null)

Thanks,
jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From mjs at clemson.edu  Mon Oct 27 02:07:04 2008
From: mjs at clemson.edu (Matthew Saltzman)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:07:04 -0400
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <1225056954.7913.7.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<4904BDAD.7040705@poolshark.org>
	<1225056954.7913.7.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
Message-ID: <1225073225.22832.12.camel@valkyrie.localdomain>


On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 15:35 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 19:57 +0100, Denis Leroy wrote:
> > Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > kills X. Hopefully the accelerated drivers will work better...
> > > 
> > > I'm trying now to get VMware Workstation 6.5 up and running. It installs
> > > without incident from the Bundle file. The RPM doesn't. In both cases,
> > > Workstation simply refuses to start. Trying from the command line, I get
> > > messages back that several modules and services are not running. Does
> > > anybody have this working??? This is the next critical piece for me to
> > > solve...
> > 
> > You need to run vmware as root the first time, so it can compile its 
> > host-side kernel modules. Once that's done, quit and restart it.
> 
> No dice. I reinstalled and then ran as root the first time. Here's what
> I get as error messages back:
> 
> Logging to /tmp/vmware-root/setup-5583.log
> modinfo: could not find module vmmon
> modinfo: could not find module vmnet
> modinfo: could not find module vmblock
> modinfo: could not find module vmci
> modinfo: could not find module vsock
> modinfo: could not find module vmmon
> modinfo: could not find module vmnet
> modinfo: could not find module vmblock
> modinfo: could not find module vmci
> modinfo: could not find module vsock
> 
> I don't seen an other errors at all. the old vmware-config.pl file is
> also not present.

vmware-config.pl is no longer part of Workstation in 6.5.  It should
reconfigure automatically when run as root after booting a new kernel.

> 
> Still searching for answers...

Do you have compilers installed?

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> --
> ==================================
> By all means marry;
> If you get a good wife, you'll be happy.
> If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
> 
> --Socrates
> 
> 
-- 
                Matthew Saltzman

Clemson University Math Sciences
mjs AT clemson DOT edu
http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs



From jamundso at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 02:36:35 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:36:35 -0500
Subject: rawhide:selinux relabeled fs, now cannot login
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810261903k39b32c1dt94449cdf53a63f3f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d06ce20810261903k39b32c1dt94449cdf53a63f3f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810261936j657a0cd0i4a7be928db3c1d09@mail.gmail.com>

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468645

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not kidding. I didn't create this problem to prove a point.. I'm
> serious, I didn't! :-)
> Really though, I took a laptop running rawhide, just updated this morning.
> In s-c-selinux I set Enforcing. [I did *not* see a "relabeling takes
> time" warning like I did in f8]
> Rebooted.
> Relabel started. I went to fridge, folded some clothes, whatever...
> I see it rebooting, seems to come to level 5 normally. But users,
> root, nobody can login, graphical, tty, nothing.
> I booted in rescue, start sshd.
> My root ssh login gives me
> "Unable to get valid context for root"
> but gives me a shell anyway. [thats good!]
> SElinux startup in dmesg and boot.log are normal.
> ****
> Snippets from /var/log/secure:
>
> Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_selinux(kdm:session):
> Error!  Unable to set jerry key creation context
> system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0.
> Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_unix(kdm:session):
> session opened for user jerry by (uid=0)
> Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_unix(kdm:session):
> session closed for user jerry
>
> Oct 26 19:57:28 JerryA-D600 login: pam_selinux(login:session): Error!
> Unable to set root key creation context
> system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023.
> Oct 26 19:57:28 JerryA-D600 login: pam_unix(login:session): session
> opened for user root by LOGIN(uid=0)
> Oct 26 19:57:29 JerryA-D600 login: Authentication failure
>
> ****
> Snippets from /var/log/messages:
>
> Oct 26 19:56:14 JerryA-D600 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing kdm
> (xdm_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t. For complete SELinux messages. run
> sealert -l 06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
>
> Oct 26 19:57:29 JerryA-D600 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
> login (local_login_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t. For complete SELinux
> messages. run sealert -l fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
>
> ****
> Upon starting setroubleshootd, I was able to get this:
>
> [root at localhost log]# sealert -l 06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
>
> Summary:
>
> SELinux is preventing kdm (xdm_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t.
>
> Detailed Description:
>
> SELinux denied access requested by kdm. It is not expected that this access is
> required by kdm and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
> possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
> causing it to require additional access.
>
> Allowing Access:
>
> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
>
> Additional Information:
>
> Source Context                system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> Target Context                system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0
> Target Objects                None [ key ]
> Source                        kdm
> Source Path                   /usr/bin/kdm
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          JerryA-D600
> Source RPM Packages           kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-7.fc10
> Target RPM Packages
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-7.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   catchall
> Host Name                     JerryA-D600
> Platform                      Linux JerryA-D600 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed
>                              Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
> Alert Count                   4
> First Seen                    Sun Oct 26 19:56:13 2008
> Last Seen                     Sun Oct 26 19:59:53 2008
> Local ID                      06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
> Line Numbers
>
> Raw Audit Messages
>
> node=JerryA-D600 type=AVC msg=audit(1225069193.250:10): avc:  denied
> { create } for  pid=2227 comm="kdm"
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> tcontext=system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0 tclass=key
>
> node=JerryA-D600 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225069193.250:10):
> arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=no exit=-13 a0=6 a1=8ab6d50 a2=25
> a3=8ab6d50 items=0 ppid=2173 pid=2227 auid=500 uid=0 gid=500 euid=0
> suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="kdm"
> exe="/usr/bin/kdm" subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> key=(null)
>
> ****
> and this:
> [root at localhost log]# sealert -l fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
>
> Summary:
>
> SELinux is preventing login (local_login_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t.
>
> Detailed Description:
>
> SELinux denied access requested by login. It is not expected that this access is
> required by login and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
> possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
> causing it to require additional access.
>
> Allowing Access:
>
> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
>
> Additional Information:
>
> Source Context                system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> Target Context                system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> Target Objects                None [ key ]
> Source                        login
> Source Path                   /bin/login
> Port                          <Unknown>
> Host                          JerryA-D600
> Source RPM Packages           util-linux-ng-2.14.1-3.fc10
> Target RPM Packages
> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-7.fc10
> Selinux Enabled               True
> Policy Type                   targeted
> MLS Enabled                   True
> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
> Plugin Name                   catchall
> Host Name                     JerryA-D600
> Platform                      Linux JerryA-D600 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed
>                              Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
> Alert Count                   3
> First Seen                    Sun Oct 26 19:57:28 2008
> Last Seen                     Sun Oct 26 20:00:06 2008
> Local ID                      fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
> Line Numbers
>
> Raw Audit Messages
>
> node=JerryA-D600 type=AVC msg=audit(1225069206.632:18): avc:  denied
> { create } for  pid=2178 comm="login"
> scontext=system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> tcontext=system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=key
>
> node=JerryA-D600 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225069206.632:18):
> arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=no exit=-13 a0=3 a1=8586d68 a2=31
> a3=8586d68 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2178 auid=0 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0
> fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=tty2 ses=2 comm="login"
> exe="/bin/login" subj=system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> key=(null)
>
> Thanks,
> jerry
>
> --
> There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".
>



-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From selinux at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 02:45:40 2008
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:45:40 -0700
Subject: rawhide:selinux relabeled fs, now cannot login
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810261936j657a0cd0i4a7be928db3c1d09@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6d06ce20810261903k39b32c1dt94449cdf53a63f3f@mail.gmail.com>
	<6d06ce20810261936j657a0cd0i4a7be928db3c1d09@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530810261945n39ccf493lf30d411f827e30e0@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468645
>
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not kidding. I didn't create this problem to prove a point.. I'm
>> serious, I didn't! :-)
>> Really though, I took a laptop running rawhide, just updated this morning.
>> In s-c-selinux I set Enforcing. [I did *not* see a "relabeling takes
>> time" warning like I did in f8]
>> Rebooted.
>> Relabel started. I went to fridge, folded some clothes, whatever...
>> I see it rebooting, seems to come to level 5 normally. But users,
>> root, nobody can login, graphical, tty, nothing.
>> I booted in rescue, start sshd.
>> My root ssh login gives me
>> "Unable to get valid context for root"
>> but gives me a shell anyway. [thats good!]
>> SElinux startup in dmesg and boot.log are normal.
>> ****
>> Snippets from /var/log/secure:
>>
>> Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_selinux(kdm:session):
>> Error!  Unable to set jerry key creation context
>> system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0.
>> Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_unix(kdm:session):
>> session opened for user jerry by (uid=0)
>> Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_unix(kdm:session):
>> session closed for user jerry
>>
>> Oct 26 19:57:28 JerryA-D600 login: pam_selinux(login:session): Error!
>> Unable to set root key creation context
>> system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023.
>> Oct 26 19:57:28 JerryA-D600 login: pam_unix(login:session): session
>> opened for user root by LOGIN(uid=0)
>> Oct 26 19:57:29 JerryA-D600 login: Authentication failure
>>
>> ****
>> Snippets from /var/log/messages:
>>
>> Oct 26 19:56:14 JerryA-D600 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing kdm
>> (xdm_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t. For complete SELinux messages. run
>> sealert -l 06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
>>
>> Oct 26 19:57:29 JerryA-D600 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
>> login (local_login_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t. For complete SELinux
>> messages. run sealert -l fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
>>
>> ****
>> Upon starting setroubleshootd, I was able to get this:
>>
>> [root at localhost log]# sealert -l 06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
>>
>> Summary:
>>
>> SELinux is preventing kdm (xdm_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t.
>>
>> Detailed Description:
>>
>> SELinux denied access requested by kdm. It is not expected that this access is
>> required by kdm and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
>> possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
>> causing it to require additional access.
>>
>> Allowing Access:
>>
>> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
>> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
>> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
>> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
>> against this package.
>>
>> Additional Information:
>>
>> Source Context                system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>> Target Context                system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0
>> Target Objects                None [ key ]
>> Source                        kdm
>> Source Path                   /usr/bin/kdm
>> Port                          <Unknown>
>> Host                          JerryA-D600
>> Source RPM Packages           kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-7.fc10
>> Target RPM Packages
>> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-7.fc10
>> Selinux Enabled               True
>> Policy Type                   targeted
>> MLS Enabled                   True
>> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
>> Plugin Name                   catchall
>> Host Name                     JerryA-D600
>> Platform                      Linux JerryA-D600 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed
>>                              Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
>> Alert Count                   4
>> First Seen                    Sun Oct 26 19:56:13 2008
>> Last Seen                     Sun Oct 26 19:59:53 2008
>> Local ID                      06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
>> Line Numbers
>>
>> Raw Audit Messages
>>
>> node=JerryA-D600 type=AVC msg=audit(1225069193.250:10): avc:  denied
>> { create } for  pid=2227 comm="kdm"
>> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>> tcontext=system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0 tclass=key
>>
>> node=JerryA-D600 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225069193.250:10):
>> arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=no exit=-13 a0=6 a1=8ab6d50 a2=25
>> a3=8ab6d50 items=0 ppid=2173 pid=2227 auid=500 uid=0 gid=500 euid=0
>> suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="kdm"
>> exe="/usr/bin/kdm" subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>> key=(null)
>>
>> ****
>> and this:
>> [root at localhost log]# sealert -l fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
>>
>> Summary:
>>
>> SELinux is preventing login (local_login_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t.
>>
>> Detailed Description:
>>
>> SELinux denied access requested by login. It is not expected that this access is
>> required by login and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
>> possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
>> causing it to require additional access.
>>
>> Allowing Access:
>>
>> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
>> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
>> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
>> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
>> against this package.
>>
>> Additional Information:
>>
>> Source Context                system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>> Target Context                system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>> Target Objects                None [ key ]
>> Source                        login
>> Source Path                   /bin/login
>> Port                          <Unknown>
>> Host                          JerryA-D600
>> Source RPM Packages           util-linux-ng-2.14.1-3.fc10
>> Target RPM Packages
>> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-7.fc10
>> Selinux Enabled               True
>> Policy Type                   targeted
>> MLS Enabled                   True
>> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
>> Plugin Name                   catchall
>> Host Name                     JerryA-D600
>> Platform                      Linux JerryA-D600 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed
>>                              Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
>> Alert Count                   3
>> First Seen                    Sun Oct 26 19:57:28 2008
>> Last Seen                     Sun Oct 26 20:00:06 2008
>> Local ID                      fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
>> Line Numbers
>>
>> Raw Audit Messages
>>
>> node=JerryA-D600 type=AVC msg=audit(1225069206.632:18): avc:  denied
>> { create } for  pid=2178 comm="login"
>> scontext=system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>> tcontext=system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=key
>>
>> node=JerryA-D600 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225069206.632:18):
>> arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=no exit=-13 a0=3 a1=8586d68 a2=31
>> a3=8586d68 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2178 auid=0 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0
>> fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=tty2 ses=2 comm="login"
>> exe="/bin/login" subj=system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>> key=(null)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> jerry
>>
Booting in permissive mode (via kernel boot option of "enforcing=0")
may allow you to boot/login in such circumstances, also providing
access to any AVCs that may be causing problems.

If that allows you to boot (either to runlevel 3 or 5), "audit2allow
-l" may provide some tell-tale clues....

Can't recall the last time I needed to resort to a rescue CD......

tom
-- 
Tom London



From dsavage at peaknet.net  Mon Oct 27 04:24:21 2008
From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:24:21 -0500
Subject: F10-beta on Lenovo W700
Message-ID: <1225081461.6874.170.camel@lion.protogeek.org>

Has anyone else tried to install F10-beta/x86_64 on Lenovo's new W700
super-laptop? After anaconda finishes checking package selections for
dependencies, it throws an unhandled exception.

Before F10 I tried installing F9/x86_64, but could not get the Intel
Gigabit Ethernet port to work. I thought F10 might have fixed that, but
it won't install at all.

>From an alternate console, lspci gives the following profile. I've
included the -vv outputs for the Ethernet, VGA, and Network controllers.
Does anyone see a showstopper?

--Doc Savage
  Fairview Heights, IL

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Cantiga Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Cantiga PCI Express Graphics Port (rev 07)
00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Cantiga MEI Controller (rev 07)
00:03.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation Cantiga PT IDER Controller (rev 07)
00:03.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation Cantiga AMT SOL Redirection (rev 07)
00:19:0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)
        Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20ee
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
        Region 0: Memory at fc200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
        Region 1: Memory at fc225000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Retion 2: I/O ports at 1840 [size=32]
        Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSK+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mZ PMD(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=1 PME-
        Capabilities: [d0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable-=
                Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [e0] PCIe advanced features <?>
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M-E LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 061e (rev A2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]
        Subsystem: Lenovo Device 2118
        Control: I/O+ mem+ BusMaster= SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
        Region 0: Memory at cd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Region 1: Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Region 3: Memory at cd000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
        Region 5: I/O ports at 2000 [size=128]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable-
                        Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [78] Express (v1) Endpoint, MDI 00
                DevCap:        MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <512ns, L1 <4us
                        ExtTag+ AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset-
                DevCtl:        Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
                DevSta:        CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
                LnkCap:        Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1, Latency L0 <512ns, L1 <1us
                        ClockPM- Suprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
                LnkCtl:        ASPM L0s L1 Enabled; RCB 128 bytes Disables- Retain- CommClk +
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta:        Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
        Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel <?>
        Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting >/?
        Capabilities: [600} Vendor Specific Information <?>
03:00.0 Network Controller: Intel Corporation Device 4236
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 1011
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
        Region 0: Memory at f4200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
        Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0ma PME(D0+,D1=,D2-,D3hot+D3cold+)
                Status: D0 PME-enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [d0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64-bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable-
                Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [e0] Express (v1) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap:        MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunct 0, Latency L0s <512ns, L1 unlimited
                        ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwerInd- RBE+ FLReset+
                DevCtl:        Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+ FLReset-
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
                DevSta:        CorrErr+ UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq+ AuxPwr+ TransPend-
                LnkCap:        Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1, Latency L0 <128ns, L1 <32us
                        ClockPM+ Suprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
                LnkCtl:        ASPM L0s L1 Enabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- Retrain- CommClk+
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM+ AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta:        Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
        Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting <?>
        Capabilities: [140] Device Serial Number 5c-ec-b2-ff-ff-ea-16-00
15:00.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ba)
15:00.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co. Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21)
15:00.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C842 MMC Host Controller (rev 11)
15:00.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C582 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 11)
15:00.5 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 11)





From bgamari at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 04:37:31 2008
From: bgamari at gmail.com (Ben Gamari (FOSS))
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:37:31 -0400
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
In-Reply-To: <ge3509$pjq$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>	<CAD9B59363894ADE86E2E4C107FA1DC1@prvd321>
	<ge3509$pjq$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4905458B.4020604@gmail.com>

Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I'm almost completely ignorant of the inside of a computer,
> but is the BIOS normally the only NVRAM inside?
>   
The BIOS is one of several NVRAM modules on your
motherboard/peripherals. As was said earlier, it is common for the video
card to have its own BIOS for bringing up screens in text mode, etc.
It's also common that SCSI cards have their own BIOS for configuration,
booting from devices, etc. The same applies to RAID controllers. Even
many ethernet adapters have their own BIOS for PXE boot, as well as
general operating firmware (hence the recent issues with Intel E1000s
being bricked by pre-release kernels). Most non-trivial devices now have
some firmware which must either be loaded by the driver or stored in
NVRAM. Hope this helps,

- Ben



From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 05:05:45 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:05:45 -0400
Subject: F10-beta on Lenovo W700
In-Reply-To: <1225081461.6874.170.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
References: <1225081461.6874.170.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
Message-ID: <1225083945.3077.23.camel@zebes.localdomain>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:24 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
> Has anyone else tried to install F10-beta/x86_64 on Lenovo's new W700
> super-laptop? After anaconda finishes checking package selections for
> dependencies, it throws an unhandled exception.

Okay, but what was the exception/traceback? Without knowing that, it's
nearly impossible to guess what happened here.

The only thing I can suggest without that info is that you try again
with the most recent snapshot build, from
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ or
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/

-w



From dsavage at peaknet.net  Mon Oct 27 05:14:35 2008
From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:14:35 -0500
Subject: F10-beta on Lenovo W700
In-Reply-To: <1225083945.3077.23.camel@zebes.localdomain>
References: <1225081461.6874.170.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
	<1225083945.3077.23.camel@zebes.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1225084475.6874.177.camel@lion.protogeek.org>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 01:05 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:24 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > Has anyone else tried to install F10-beta/x86_64 on Lenovo's new W700
> > super-laptop? After anaconda finishes checking package selections for
> > dependencies, it throws an unhandled exception.
> 
> Okay, but what was the exception/traceback? Without knowing that, it's
> nearly impossible to guess what happened here.
> 
> The only thing I can suggest without that info is that you try again
> with the most recent snapshot build, from
> http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ or
> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/

That's the problem. Since no packages get installed, the system can't
send the traceback log to bugzilla. (Bit of a chicken/egg situation.)
I've attached a manual transcription of perhaps the first 10%. It'll
take me several days to finish the rest.

--Doc Savage
  Fairview Heights, IL
-------------- next part --------------
anaconda 11.4.1.40 exception report
Traceback (most recent call first):
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/network.py", line 529, in write
    if dev.tet('GATEWAY'):
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py", line 1469 in doPreInstall
    anaconda.id.network.write(andaconda.rootPath)
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/backend.py", line 258, in doPreInstall
    anaconda.backend.doPreInstall(anaconda)
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 204, in moveStep
    rc = stepFunc(self.anaconda)
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 127, in gotoNext
    self.moveStep()
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1349, in nextClicked
    self.anaconda.dispatch.gotoNext()
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/ow/progress_gui.py", line 79, in renderCallback
    self.intf.icw.nextClicked()
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1370, in handleRenderCallback
    self.currentWindow.renderCallback()
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'dev' referenced before assignment

Local variables in innermost frame:
self: <network.Network instance at 0x7fb9035449e0>
instPath: /mnt/sysimage
f: <open file '/mnt/sysimage/etc/sysconfig/network', mode 'w' at 0x2740468>


Anaconda instance, containing members:
rescue_mount: True
intf: InstallInterface instance, containing members:
  intf.ppw: InstallProgressWindow instance containing members:
    intf.ppw.pixmaps: [progress_first.png]
    intf.ppw.intf: Already dumped
    intf.ppw.adbox: <gtk.EventBox object at 0x7fb8f1c3a5f0 (GtkEventBox at 0x19030f0)>
    intf.ppw._updateChange: 0.01
    intf.ppw.adpix: <gtk.Image object at 0x7fb8f06800f0 (GtkImage at 0x1b7dd00)>
    intf.ppw._showPercentage: False
    intf.ppw.infolabel: <WrappingLabel object at 0x7fb8f1c3a640 (GtkLabel at 0x1ccc410)>
    intf.ppw.ics: InstallControlState instance, containing members:
      intf.ppw.ics.prevEnabled: False
      intf.ppw.ics.cw: InstallControlWindow instance, containing members:
        intf.ppw.ics.cw.handle: 3909
        intf.ppw.ics.cw.currentWindow: Already dumped
        intf.ppw.ics.cw.mainxml: <gtk.glade.XML object at 0x7fb903552370 <PyGladeXML at 0x15f8a30)>
        intf.ppw.ics.cw.window: <gtk.Window object at 0x7fb90353bfa0 (GtkWindow at 0x167f150)>
        intf.ppw.ics.cw.installFrame: <gtk.Frame object at 0x7fb903552e10 <GtkFrame at 0x1615800)>
        intf.ppw.ics.cw.anaconda: Already dumped
        intf.ppw.ics.cw.reloadRcQueued: 0
      intf.ppw.ics.nextEnabled: False
      intf.ppw.ics.grabNext: True
      intf.ppw.ics.title: Installing Packages
    intf.ppw.progress: <gtk.ProgressBar object at 0x7fb8f1c3a730 (GtkProgressBar at 0x1b7a800)>
  intf.icw: Already dumped
  intf.runres: 800x600
  intf.anaconda: Already dumped
rescue: False
updateSrc: None
mediaDevice: /dev/sr0
methodstr: None
dispatch: <dispatch.Diapatcher object at 0x7fb903565750>
rootPath: /mnt/sysimage
xdriver: None
isKickstart: False
stage2: cdrom:///dev/sr0:/mnt/stage2
id: InstallData instance, containing members:
  id.firewall: Firewall instance, containing members:
    id.firewall.portlist: []
    id.firewall.servicelist: [ssh]
    id.firewall.trustdevs: []
    id.firewall.enables: 1
  id.anaconda: Already dumped
  id.instProgress: Already dumped
  id.upgradeRoot: []
  id.keyboard: Keyboard instance, containing members:
    id.keyboard.info: {'KEYBOARDTYPOE': pc, 'KEYTABLE': us}
    id.keyboard.type: PC
    id.keyboard.beenset: 1
    id.keyboard._mods: KeyboardModels intance, containing members:
  id.timezone: Timezone instance, tontaining members:
    id.timezone.utc: True
    id.timezone.tz: America/Chicago
  id.zfcp: ZFCP instance, containing members:
    id.zfcp.hasReadConfig: True
    id.zfcp.fcpdevs: []
  id.upgrade: None
  id.monitor: None
  id.iscsi: <iscsi.iscsi object at 0x7fb903565810>
  id.fsset: FileSystemSet instance, containing members:
    id.fsset.messageWindow: <bound method InstallInterface.messageWindow of <gui.InstallInterface instance at 0x7fb903557710>>
    id.fsset.volumesCreates: 1
    id.fsset.progressWindow: <bound method InstallInterface.messageWindow of <gui.InstallInterface instance at 0x7fb903557710>>
    id.fsset.migratedfs: 1
    id.fsset.waitWindow: <bound method InstallInterface.waitWindow of <gui.InstallInterface instance at 0x7fb903557710>>
    id.fsset.entries: [fsentry -- device: VG00/LV00  mountpoint: /
  fsystem: ext3 format: 1
  ismounted: 1  options: 'defaults'
  label: None fsprofile: None

, fsentry -- device: sda1  mountpoint: /boot
  fsystem: ext3 format: 1
  ismounted: 1  options: 'defaults'
  label: /boot fsprofile: None

, fsentry -- device: shm  mountpoint: /dev/shm
  fsystem: tmpfs format: 0
  ismounted: 0  options: 'defaults'
  label: None fsprofile: None

, fsentry -- device: devpts  mountpoint: /dev/pts
  fsystem: devpts format: 0
  ismounted: 0  options: 'gid=5,mode=620'
  label: None fsprofile: None

, fsentry -- device: sys  mountpoint: /sys
  fsystem: sysfs format: 0
  ismounted: 1  options: 'defaults'
  label: None fsprofile: None

, fsentry -- device: proc  mountpoint: /proc
  fsystem: proc format: 0
  ismounted: 1  options: 'defaults'
  label: None fsprofile: None

, fsentry -- device: VG00  mountpoint: None
  fsystem: volume group (LVM) format: 1
  ismounted: 0  options: 'defaults'
  label: None fsprofile: None

, fsentry -- device: VG00/LV01  mountpoint: swap
  fsystem: swap format: 1
  ismounted:  options: 'defaults'
  label: None fsprofile: None

, fsentry -- device: sda2  mountpoint: None
  fsystem: physical volume (LVM) format: 1
  ismounted: 0  options: 'defaults'
  label: None fsprofile: None

]
    id.fsset.mountcount: 5
  id.desktop: Desktop instance, containing members:
    id.desktop.info: {}
    id.desktop.runlevel: 0
  id.rootParts: []
  id.x_already_set: 0
  id.backend: YumBackend instance, containing members:
    id.backend.modeText: Installing %s

    id.backend.instPath: /mnt/sysimage
    id.backend.skipFormatRoot: False
    id.backend.totalSize: 1120204
    id.backend.totalFiles: 130786
    id.backend.instLog: <open file 'mnt/sysimage/root/install.log', mode 'w+' at 0x7fb8f10136c0>
    id.backend.supportsUpgrades: True
    id.backend._loopbackFile: None
    id.backend.supportsPackageSelection:  True
  id.firstboot: 0
  id.diskset: DiskSet instance, containing members:
    id.diskset.initializedDisks: {'sda': /true}
    id.diskset.disks: {'sda': <PedDisk object at 0x7fb90bef3e90>}
    id.diskset.anaconda: Already dumped
    id.diskset.devicesOpen: True
    id.diskset.onlyPrimary: None
  id.users: None
  id.displayMOde: g
  id.auth: --enableshadow --passalgo=sha512
  id.ksdata: None
  id.bootloader: x86BootloaderInfo instance, containing members:
    id.bootloader._configdir: /boot/grub
    id.bootloader.doUpgradeOnly: 0
    id.bootloader.above1024: 0
    id.bootloader.defaultDevice: mbr
    id.bootloader.pure: None
    id.bootloader.serialDevice: None
    id.bootloader.args: KernalArguments instance, containing members:
      id.bootloader.args.args:
    id.bootloader.kernelLocation: /boot/
    id.bootloader.timeout: None
    id.bootloader._configname: grub.conf
    id.bootloader.device: sda
    id.bootloader.kickstart: 0
    id.bootloader.serialOptions: None
    id.bootloader.useGrubVal: 1
    id.bootloader._drivelist: [sda]
    id.bootloader.images: BootImages instance, containing members:
      id.bootloader.images.default: VG00/LV00
      id.bootloader.images.images: {'VG00/LV00': ('linux', 'Fedora', 'exte3')}
    id.bootloader.drivelist: [sda]
    id.bootloader.serial: 0
    id.bootloader.password: None
    id.bootloader.forceLBA32: 0
  id.extraModules: []
  id.network: Network instance, containing members:
    id.network.netdevices: {}
    id.network.domains: []
    id.network.overrideDHCPhostname: False
    id.network.hostname: tiger.protogeek.org
  id.instClass: <installclass.DefaultInstall object at 0x7fv903af6210>
  id.partitions: Partitions instance, containing members:
    id.partitions.encryptionPassphrase:
    id.partitions.useAutopartitioning: 1
    id.partitions.autoClearPartType: 0
    id.partitions.nextUniqueID: 12
    id.partitions.reinitializeDisks: 0
    id.partitions.useFeisk: 0
    id.partitions.autoClearPartDrives: [sda]
    id.partitions. protected: []
    id.partitions.retrofitPassphrase: False
    id.partitions.anaconds: Already dumped
    id.partitions.zeroMbr: 0
    id.partitions.isKickstart: 0
    id.partitions.requests: [New Part Request -- mountpoint: /boot uniqueID: 9
  type: ext3  format: 1
  device: sda1 drive: ['sda']  primary: None
  size: 200  grow: 0  maxsize: None
  start: None  end: None  migrate: None  fslabel: None  origfstype: None
  options: 'None'
  fsprofile: None  encryption: None
, VG Request -- name: VG00  uniqueID: 11
  format: 1 pesize: 32768
  physvols: [6]
, LV Request -- mountpoint: None  uniqueID: 10
  type: swap  format: 1
  size: 5824  lvname: LV01  volgroup 11
  options: 'None'  fsprofile: None  encryption: 'None'
, LV Request -- mountpoint: /  uniqueID: 8
  type: ext3  format: 1
  size: 299168  lvname: LV00  volgroup: 11
  options: 'None'  fsprofile: None  encryption: 'None'
, New Part Request -- mountpoint: None unique ID: 6
  type: physical volume (LVM)  format: 1
  device: sda2 drive: ['sda']  primary: None
  size: 0  grow: 1  maxsize: None
  start: None  end: None  migrate: None   fslabel: None
  options: 'None'
  fsprofile: None  encryption: None
]
    id.partitions.autoEncrypt: False
    id.partitions.autoPartitionRequests: [New Part Request -- mountpoint: None uniqueID: None
  type: physical volume (LVM)  format: 1
  device: None drive: None  primary: None
  size: 0  grow: 1  maxsize: None
  start: None  end: None  migrate: None   fslabel: None  origfstype: None
  options: 'None'
  fsprofile: None  encryption: None
, VG Request -- name: lvm  uniqueID: None
  format: 1 pesize: 32768
  physvols: []
, LV Request -- mountpoint: /  uniqueID: None
  type: ext3  format: 1
  size: 1024  lvname: LogVol00  volgroup: lvm
  options: 'None'  fsprofile: None  encryption: 'None'
  type: ext3  format: 1

From no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org  Mon Oct 27 07:50:16 2008
From: no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org (=?UTF-8?B?cmphbWVz?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:50:16 +0100
Subject: Snap Releases
In-Reply-To: <4905060E.9020405@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <4684110f35133f3709dd65811567e253@fcp.surfsite.org>

> 
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
> rjames wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 13:01 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:27:52PM -0400, Jim wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > What are these FC 10 Snap 1, 2 releases, ISO's ??
> > > > > I have FC 10 Beta installed and a lot of problems.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > Most are related to getting the XO hardware working with F10
> > > > (explore http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki [1] [1])
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > Actually, the Snaps are a more general part of the release process now
> > > so that we can get more testing of media-based things beyond just alpha
> > > + beta + preview release.
> > > 
> > > There's just a nice side effect that they're handy and work out well for
> > > some of the testing on the XO :)
> > > 
> > > Jeremy
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > If you guys are going to be using these in the future for live cd's, you need to make sure you aren't overburning these things because a hell of a lot of cd/dvd burners *DON'T* support this, and the snap 3 386 live cd iso are overburned [703 megs instead of the standard 650/702 megs].
> > 
> > None of my Liteon dvd burners support overburning and I don't think the older sony cdwr drive I have in a older computer supports it either.
> > 
> > If you are going to be overburning these things, at least say so, so people won't waste their time downloading something that's going to be unusable on their machines.
> > 
> > 
> It's easy to look at the size of the image and the capacity of the CD and decide
> if it will fit. I have 720 and 730 CDs from an obscure source called Office Max.
> You can often get them from newegg as well, I never ordered anything special,
> they just came that way.
> 
> You may have to use the overburn option to cdrecord, I don't ever recall doing
> that, but it's there. I use the cdrecord from the author rather than the hack
> one which comes with Fedora and some other distributions, that might be a factor.
> 
> In short, I burn these on a variety of burners, CD and DVD, and have no problem
> with the size. You might have some small media, in which case a quick investment
> would be in order, but larger sizes are available.
> >
> >
> You just don't get it, do you?
> 
> The *MEDIA* has *NOTHING* to do the problem. 
> 
> The *PROBLEM* with *OVERBURNING* an ISO CD's that's *NOT FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE* is that a lot of the *DRIVE HARDWARE* for CDRW/DVDRW BURNERS DO NOT SUPPORT OVERBURNING AT ALL.
> 
> THE HARDWARE SUPPORT FOR IT DOES NOT EXIST IN THE DRIVE AT ALL ANYMORE. I KNOW BOTH OF MY LITEON CD/DVD BURNERS DON'T SUPPORT IT. I'M TAKING ABOUT DVD BURNERS THAT CAN READ AND WRITE DVD-RAM HERE.
> 
> OVERBURNING OUSTSIDE OF A FEW ODDBALL DRIVES WAS NEVER VERY COMMON FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, WHICH HAD TO DO WITH THE LIMITS OF THE 650 MEG CD'S, WHICH WERE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY CD MEDIA THERE WAS A NEED TO USE OVERBURNING TO BEGIN WITH.
> 
> WHEN THE 702 MEG CD'S BECAME THE STANDARD, OVERBURNING FADED AWAY FROM THE DRIVE MECHS FOR A GOOD REASON. THE DISKS CREATED USING IT WERE UNSTABLE. ODDS WERE GOOD THAT THE PRETTY MUCH ONLY DRIVE THAT COULD READ AN OVERBURNED CD WAS THE ONE THAT CREATED IT.
> 
> SO USING AN OVERBURNED CD FOR AN ISO DISTRBUTION BASE IS A VERY,VERY BAD IDEA TO BEGIN WITH,SINCE IT'S GOING TO DO NOTHING BUT CREATE UNNECESSARY PROBLEMS IN THE END.


Links:
------
[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki


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From denis at poolshark.org  Mon Oct 27 08:00:44 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:00:44 +0100
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <1225073225.22832.12.camel@valkyrie.localdomain>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>	<4904BDAD.7040705@poolshark.org>	<1225056954.7913.7.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<1225073225.22832.12.camel@valkyrie.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4905752C.7050800@poolshark.org>

Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 15:35 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 19:57 +0100, Denis Leroy wrote:
>>> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>>>> kills X. Hopefully the accelerated drivers will work better...
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying now to get VMware Workstation 6.5 up and running. It installs
>>>> without incident from the Bundle file. The RPM doesn't. In both cases,
>>>> Workstation simply refuses to start. Trying from the command line, I get
>>>> messages back that several modules and services are not running. Does
>>>> anybody have this working??? This is the next critical piece for me to
>>>> solve...
>>> You need to run vmware as root the first time, so it can compile its 
>>> host-side kernel modules. Once that's done, quit and restart it.
>> No dice. I reinstalled and then ran as root the first time. Here's what
>> I get as error messages back:
>>
>> Logging to /tmp/vmware-root/setup-5583.log
>> modinfo: could not find module vmmon
>> modinfo: could not find module vmnet
>> modinfo: could not find module vmblock
>> modinfo: could not find module vmci
>> modinfo: could not find module vsock
>> modinfo: could not find module vmmon
>> modinfo: could not find module vmnet
>> modinfo: could not find module vmblock
>> modinfo: could not find module vmci
>> modinfo: could not find module vsock
>>
>> I don't seen an other errors at all. the old vmware-config.pl file is
>> also not present.
> 
> vmware-config.pl is no longer part of Workstation in 6.5.  It should
> reconfigure automatically when run as root after booting a new kernel.
> 
>> Still searching for answers...
> 
> Do you have compilers installed?

Right that's most likely it. Make sure you have 'kernel-devel' present, 
and 'gcc'. Also,  is this Workstations 6.5 build 118166 ?



From romal at gmx.de  Mon Oct 27 08:25:47 2008
From: romal at gmx.de (Robert M. Albrecht)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:25:47 +0100
Subject: LCDPro kills Plymouth
Message-ID: <49057B0B.3030303@gmx.de>

Hi,

I did a fresh install of todays rawhide, works great. Until installing LCDproc.

LCDproc inhibts plymouth from booting the system. Plymouth needs several 
minutes and finally stalls with white "Fedora 9.92".

Booting into single user mode and disabling or removing LCDproc resolves 
this problem.

Has anyone else seen this ?

cu romal

www.romal.de
blog.romal.de



From denis at poolshark.org  Mon Oct 27 08:45:52 2008
From: denis at poolshark.org (Denis Leroy)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:45:52 +0100
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <1225049743.27796.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<1225049743.27796.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <49057FC0.6010005@poolshark.org>

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 08:23 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>> Trying from the command line, I get
>> messages back that several modules and services are not running.
> 
> Do you get this?:
> 
>         % vmware
>         vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
>         for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following
>         command:
>         /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
>         
> If so, run /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl (as root). Good luck though, recent
> vmware versions have variable results, at least on x86_64 (I ended up
> switching to VirtualBox).

As mentioned in another post, Workstations >= 6.5 no longer uses 
vmware-config.pl: the module building is directly integrated into the 
vmware executable. That has the drawback of having to run vmware as root 
  at least once to give it a chance to build the modules, which is 
confusing.



From kwizart at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 09:20:23 2008
From: kwizart at gmail.com (KH KH)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:20:23 +0100
Subject: LCDPro kills Plymouth
In-Reply-To: <49057B0B.3030303@gmx.de>
References: <49057B0B.3030303@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <e1760170810270220i344731b0gfcaf069297a44f0@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/27 Robert M. Albrecht <romal at gmx.de>:
> Hi,
>
> I did a fresh install of todays rawhide, works great. Until installing
> LCDproc.
>
> LCDproc inhibts plymouth from booting the system. Plymouth needs several
> minutes and finally stalls with white "Fedora 9.92".
>
> Booting into single user mode and disabling or removing LCDproc resolves
> this problem.
>
> Has anyone else seen this ?

There is a bug report with
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468611

Please stay tune so we can get QA testing.



From roger at gwch.net  Mon Oct 27 09:27:58 2008
From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:27:58 +0100 (CET)
Subject: ATI-Card shows Window-Buttons false, if Desktop-effects enabled
Message-ID: <2919.193.73.106.102.1225099678.squirrel@www.gwch.net>

Hi,

This weekend, i got also F10Beta on my working-machine :)

it worked out of the box, but i still work on details. One of the first i saw was, that
if i enable desktopeffects on that box, there is a space between the 3 buttons
(minimize, maximize, close), the size of the space seems the same as the button itself.

Roger



From partha1b at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 09:59:48 2008
From: partha1b at gmail.com (Partha Bagchi)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:59:48 -0400
Subject: ATI-Card shows Window-Buttons false, if Desktop-effects enabled
In-Reply-To: <2919.193.73.106.102.1225099678.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
References: <2919.193.73.106.102.1225099678.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
Message-ID: <e14212e0810270259r6926288aj26bb5d59e50413e7@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Roger Grosswiler <roger at gwch.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This weekend, i got also F10Beta on my working-machine :)
>
> it worked out of the box, but i still work on details. One of the first i saw was, that
> if i enable desktopeffects on that box, there is a space between the 3 buttons
> (minimize, maximize, close), the size of the space seems the same as the button itself.
>
> Roger
>
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
Usually (at least if you use emerald) there are other buttons than the
standard 3, such as "roll up" the window. When you mouseover the space
in between, do you see the buttons then? You can change this behaviour
in emerald.

HTH,
Partha



From robk at ningaui.net  Mon Oct 27 10:25:51 2008
From: robk at ningaui.net (Rob K)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:25:51 +1100
Subject: Received your XO? Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
References: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810071236250.28177@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <352bdb60810270325i33810e2ckb4b0760907e70649@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:

> As the XO units start to hit the ground, I'd appreciate it if you can
> respond to this thread with an ack that you've received your XO and a brief
> intro of yourself.  We'll all be working together quite a bit, so let's all
> get to know each other.
een
My XO arrived today, yay!

I'm Rob Kearey, once of Red Hat in the before-time, now working for a
large investment bank in Sydney. I've been in Unix/Linux admin and
support for something like over a decade now.

> --g


-- 
Rob K
http://ningaui.net
I swear, if I collected all seven dragonballs,
I'd bring back Jon Postel. - Raph



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 27 10:28:35 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:28:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081027 changes
Message-ID: <20081027102835.6DC561F824B@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Mon Oct 27 06:01:12 UTC 2008

New package R-GeneR
        R for genes and sequences analysis
New package libnxml
        C library for parsing, writing and creating XML
Updated Packages:

R-2.8.0-2.fc10
--------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 2.8.0-2
- enable libtiff interface

* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 2.8.0-1
- Update to 2.8.0
- New subpackage layout: R-core is functional userspace, R is metapackage 
  requiring everything
- Fix system bzip2 detection


alienarena-7.20-4.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 7.20-4
- re-enable "don't search data path" patch

* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 7.20-3
- use LD_LIBRARY_PATH in scripts


asymptote-1.47-1.fc10
---------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.47-1
- update to 1.47


beagle-0.3.8-8.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> - 0.3.8-8
- Fix user creation, possible security issue (RH #468610)


beldi-0.9.23-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.23-1
- Upgrade to 0.9.23
- Add NEWS and new ChangeLog


blender-2.48a-3.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 2.48a-3
- Create %{_libdir}/blender/scripts/ to claim ownership

* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Jochen Schmitt <Jochen herr-schmitt de> 2.48a-1
- New upstream release


bluez-4.17-1.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.17-1
- Update to 4.17


bluez-gnome-1.8-8.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 1.8-8
- Avoid the devices jumping around in the treeview


clamav-0.94-1.fc10
------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.94-1
- Upgrade to 0.94 (SECURITY), fixes #461461:
- CVE-2008-1389 Invalid memory access in the CHM unpacker
- CVE-2008-3912 Out-of-memory NULL pointer dereference in mbox/msg
- CVE-2008-3913 Memory leak in code path in freshclam's manager.c
- CVE-2008-3914 Multiple file descriptor leaks on the code paths


conntrack-tools-0.9.8-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Paul P. Komkoff Jr <i at stingr.net> - 0.9.8-1
- new upstream version
- remove rollup patch


crypto-utils-2.4.1-2
--------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Elio Maldonado <emaldona at redhat.com> - 2.4.1-2
- enabled renewal for certs in the nss database
- disabled renewal for certs in pem files
- added man page examples
- requires nss 3.12.2 or higher


eclipse-pydev-1.3.23-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 1:1.3.23-1
- 1.3.23


ext3grep-0.10.0-1.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz> - 0.10.0-1
- Upstream version 0.10.0


fpc-2.2.2-3.fc10
----------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Joost van der Sluis <joost at cnoc.nl> 2.2.2-3
- Do not distribute the RTL and packages with debug-info included
- Fix the location of the fpc-binary in the samplecfg script


fuse-encfs-1.5-1.fc10
---------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Peter Lemenkov <lemenkov at gmail.com> 1.5-1
- Ver. 1.5
- Dropped upstreamed patches


geany-0.15-1.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Jonathan G. Underwood <jonathan.underwood at gmail.com> - 0.15-1
- Update to 0.15
- Update URL
- Add intltool to BuildRequires


gnome-session-2.24.1-3.fc10
---------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-3
- Make the capplet resizable (#468577)


iw-0.9.6-1.fc10
---------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah at gmail.com> 0.9.6-1
- Update to 0.9.6


kernel-2.6.27.4-51.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-51
- Linux 2.6.27.4

* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-48.rc3
- tcp: Restore ordering of TCP options for the sake of inter-operability

* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-50.rc3
- Two patches for the r8169 network driver that should fix bug #460747

* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-49.rc3
- Scheduler fixes from 2.6.28, fixing performance problems:
    Disable HRTICK scheduler feature.
    Keep the scheduler clock from going backwards.


libgadu-1.8.2-1.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Dominik Mierzejewski <rpm at greysector.net> 1.8.2-1
- updated to 1.8.2 (security update)
- preserve timestamps during make install
- put defattr at the top of files section (fixes rpmlint error)


libnetfilter_conntrack-0.0.97-1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Paul P. Komkoff Jr <i at stingr.net> - 0.0.97-1
- new upstream version

* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.0.96-3
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


libnetfilter_log-0.0.15-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Paul P. Komkoff Jr <i at stingr.net> - 0.0.15-1
- new upstream version
- hard dependency on libnfnetlink version


libnetfilter_queue-0.0.16-3.fc10
--------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Paul P. Komkoff Jr <i at stingr.net> - 0.0.16-3
- fix patch/patch0
- depend on specific libnfnetlink version


linuxwacom-0.8.0.3-3.fc10
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> 0.8.0.3-3
- Update HAL fdi file to also match the Wacom Bluetooth tablet


lirc-0.8.4a-1.fc10
------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 - Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> - 0.8.4a-1
- Update to lirc 0.8.4a release (fixes mode2 irrecord failures)
- Really fix the mceusb remote config file this time


man-pages-ko-20050219-7.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Ding-Yi Chen <dchen at redhat dot com> - 2:20050219-7
- Fix Bug 468501 - There were file conflicts when cheeking the packages 
  to be installed in Fedora-10-beta-x86_6.


openvrml-0.17.10-1.0.fc10
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Braden McDaniel  <braden at endoframe.com> - 0.17.10-1.0
- Updated to 0.17.10.


perl-CGI-Ex-2.24-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 2.24-1
- update to 2.24


perl-CSS-Tiny-1.15-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.15-1
- update to 1.15


perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-0.10008-1.fc10
--------------------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.10008-1
- update to 0.10008


perl-Hash-Case-1.006-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.006-1
- update to 1.006


perl-Log-Dispatch-Config-1.02-1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.02-1
- update to 1.02


perl-Log-Dispatch-FileRotate-1.19-1.fc10
----------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Ralf Cors??pius <corsepiu at fedoraproject.org> - 1.19-1
- Upstream update.


perl-Object-InsideOut-3.51-1.fc10
---------------------------------
* Sat Oct 25 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 3.51-1
- update to 3.51
- replace filter-provides.sh style filtering with inline


perl-POE-Component-IRC-5.88-1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 5.88-1
- update to 5.88


perl-POE-Component-SSLify-0.14-1.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.14-1
- update to 0.14


perl-POE-Component-Server-SOAP-1.13-1.fc10
------------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.13-1
- update to 1.13


perl-POE-Component-Server-SimpleHTTP-1.48-1.fc10
------------------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.48-1
- update to 1.48


perl-POE-Component-SimpleLog-1.05-1.fc10
----------------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.05-1
- update to 1.05


perl-POE-Filter-Zlib-2.01-1.fc10
--------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 2.01-1
- update to 2.01


perl-Sub-Exporter-0.981-1.fc10
------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 0.981-1
- update to 0.981


perl-Test-Distribution-2.00-2.fc10
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* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 2.00-2
- Changes -> Changes.pod in doc

* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 2.00-1
- update to 2.00


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.24.2.fc10
----------------------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 0.6.0-0.2008.10.24.2
- More requires changing to avoid loops (#467356)


python-beaker-1.0.3-1.fc10
--------------------------

rpy-1.0.3-4.fc10
----------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.0.3-4
- rebuild against R-2.8.0


rss2email-2.64-1.1
------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora [AT] leemhuis [DOT] info> - 2.64-1
- update to 2.64
- drop rss2email-warn-if-problems-with-local-mta.patch, something similar now
  upstream


shorewall-4.2.1-1.fc10
----------------------

totem-2.24.3-1.fc10
-------------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 2.24.3-1
- Update to 2.24.3
- Fixes for recent YouTube website changes (#468578)


viewvc-1.0.7-2.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Bojan Smojver <bojan at rexursive.com> - 1.0.7-2
- Depend on webserver to avoid pulling in Apache/mod_python (bug #457691)
- Provide viewvc-httpd package for mod_python specific configuration


wine-1.1.7-1.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Oct 26 18:00:00 2008 Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert[AT]lowlatency.de>
- 1.1.7-1
- version upgrade


xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse-12.6.1-1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 12.6.1-1
- vmmouse 12.6.1


xorg-x11-server-1.5.2-9.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 1.5.2-9
- xserver-1.5.2-more-sanity-checks.patch: more sanity checks to stop vmmouse
  from segfaulting the server. #434807

* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com>
- fix typo in xserver-1.5.2-no-duplicate-devices.patch

* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com>
- Update xserver-1.5.2-disable-kbd-mouse.patch: add line to xorg.conf man-page
  stating that devices are disabled if AEI is on.


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From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Mon Oct 27 11:28:50 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:28:50 +0200
Subject: freecell crashes x while yum is running
Message-ID: <4905A5F2.8040609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

As Red Skeleton was known to say, "I just do them, I don't explain 
them". I have noticed more than once that x freezes if I am playing 
freecell while running "sudo yum update" from a gnome terminal. I have 
not had X freeze in any other scenario. The symptoms of the freeze are:

   1. yum is downloading at the time
   2. It happens while I am dragging a card - the motion freezesa
   3. The mouse still moves but none of the rollovers do anything and
      clicking doesn't have any effect
   4. The keyboard doesn't have any effect. Not even ctrl-alt-del,
      ctrl-alt-f2, or ctrl-alt-backspace
   5. The gnome monitor panel applet freezes
   6. ssh works. I can log in from another machine
   7. /sbin/init 3 doesn't do anything

I am running F10 rawhide on a Dell Latitude D620 - integrated Intel 
graphics chip. 



From jpazdziora at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 11:37:49 2008
From: jpazdziora at redhat.com (Jan Pazdziora)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:37:49 +0100
Subject: XO: SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second
In-Reply-To: <1225058006.23788.18.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <20081026195452.GA5354@corona.adelton.com>
	<1225058006.23788.18.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <20081027113749.GA2784@corona.adelton.com>

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 05:53:26PM -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 20:54 +0100, Jan Pazdziora wrote:
> > Upon booting the XO, I get
> > 
> > 	Type the Esc key to interrupt automatic startup
> > 	SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second
> 
> What version of the firmware do you have on the XO?  It should say on
> bootup.  If it's not Q2E18, you'll want to upgrade

I've checked that I have Q2E18.

-- 
Jan Pazdziora | adelton at #satellite*, #brno
Satellite Engineering, Red Hat



From schaiba at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 11:53:46 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:53:46 +0200
Subject: freecell crashes x while yum is running
In-Reply-To: <4905A5F2.8040609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4905A5F2.8040609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <4905ABCA.8000101@gmail.com>

shmuel siegel wrote:
> As Red Skeleton was known to say, "I just do them, I don't explain 
> them". I have noticed more than once that x freezes if I am playing 
> freecell while running "sudo yum update" from a gnome terminal. I have 
> not had X freeze in any other scenario. The symptoms of the freeze are:
>
>   1. yum is downloading at the time
>   2. It happens while I am dragging a card - the motion freezesa
>   3. The mouse still moves but none of the rollovers do anything and
>      clicking doesn't have any effect
>   4. The keyboard doesn't have any effect. Not even ctrl-alt-del,
>      ctrl-alt-f2, or ctrl-alt-backspace
>   5. The gnome monitor panel applet freezes
>   6. ssh works. I can log in from another machine
>   7. /sbin/init 3 doesn't do anything
>
> I am running F10 rawhide on a Dell Latitude D620 - integrated Intel 
> graphics chip.
If you do that in, say, KDE, does it happend?



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 27 12:00:23 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:00:23 -0400
Subject: freecell crashes x while yum is running
In-Reply-To: <4905A5F2.8040609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4905A5F2.8040609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <1225108823.8033.0.camel@rosebud>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:28 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
> As Red Skeleton was known to say, "I just do them, I don't explain 
> them". I have noticed more than once that x freezes if I am playing 
> freecell while running "sudo yum update" from a gnome terminal. I have 
> not had X freeze in any other scenario. The symptoms of the freeze are:
> 
>    1. yum is downloading at the time
>    2. It happens while I am dragging a card - the motion freezesa
>    3. The mouse still moves but none of the rollovers do anything and
>       clicking doesn't have any effect
>    4. The keyboard doesn't have any effect. Not even ctrl-alt-del,
>       ctrl-alt-f2, or ctrl-alt-backspace
>    5. The gnome monitor panel applet freezes
>    6. ssh works. I can log in from another machine
>    7. /sbin/init 3 doesn't do anything
> 
> I am running F10 rawhide on a Dell Latitude D620 - integrated Intel 
> graphics chip. 

How much memory do you have in the system?

-sv




From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 13:13:27 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:13:27 -0400
Subject: Fedora XO Display Test - meeting recap
Message-ID: <1225113207.3423.46.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Fedora XO Display Test Meeting 
Date: 2008-10-26
Time: 6pm EDT (22:00 UTC)

= Attendees =
* jlaska
* TerryStewart
* blakesc
* ivazquez
* finalzone-x

= Team Name =

* Not sure who selected "Dream Broadcast", but until we can be more
creative, that's the name

= Test Plan Discussion =

* Test plan URL - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Display

* ivazquez noted that the XO keybindings aren't working and should be on
the test plan
** A hal keymap quirks file might be in order
http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/quirk-keymap-index.html
** None of the keys on the display work as expected ... see scancode
table at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Keyboard_layouts

* Discussed hardware detection
** resolution and font dpi issue

* Discussed applications to use to verify Display
** xrandr - rotation, modes, detection
** gnome-display-properties - rotation, modes, detection
** glxgears - the classic "shouldn't die" test

* TerryStewart suggested a general expected behavior section for all
applications (no screen artifacts etc...)
* Also list a series of high priority apps that will be touched on to
ensure proper display interaction
* blakesc suggested running VSW (Xorg Validation Suite)

* Additional Hardware support
** TerryStewart will test out a USB video adapter w/ the XO
** Anyone else have external adapters?

= Team Lead =

* finalzone-x (Luya) has volunteered as team lead for XO Display testing

= Future Meetings =

* 2008-11-02 @ 6pm EST (23:00 UTC)

= Action Items =

[       ] - talk to rhughes about hal XO detection?
[TerryStewart] - 
[blakesc] - gather and post details on running VSW in to the test plan
[jlaska] - ping Audio team to see if they are covering keyboard volume
keys?
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From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Mon Oct 27 13:02:26 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:02:26 -0600
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <4905752C.7050800@poolshark.org>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<4904BDAD.7040705@poolshark.org>
	<1225056954.7913.7.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<1225073225.22832.12.camel@valkyrie.localdomain>
	<4905752C.7050800@poolshark.org>
Message-ID: <1225112546.8799.17.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 09:00 +0100, Denis Leroy wrote:
> Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 15:35 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 19:57 +0100, Denis Leroy wrote:
> >>> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >>>> kills X. Hopefully the accelerated drivers will work better...
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm trying now to get VMware Workstation 6.5 up and running. It installs
> >>>> without incident from the Bundle file. The RPM doesn't. In both cases,
> >>>> Workstation simply refuses to start. Trying from the command line, I get
> >>>> messages back that several modules and services are not running. Does
> >>>> anybody have this working??? This is the next critical piece for me to
> >>>> solve...
> >>> You need to run vmware as root the first time, so it can compile its 
> >>> host-side kernel modules. Once that's done, quit and restart it.
> >> No dice. I reinstalled and then ran as root the first time. Here's what
> >> I get as error messages back:
> >>
> >> Logging to /tmp/vmware-root/setup-5583.log
> >> modinfo: could not find module vmmon
> >> modinfo: could not find module vmnet
> >> modinfo: could not find module vmblock
> >> modinfo: could not find module vmci
> >> modinfo: could not find module vsock
> >> modinfo: could not find module vmmon
> >> modinfo: could not find module vmnet
> >> modinfo: could not find module vmblock
> >> modinfo: could not find module vmci
> >> modinfo: could not find module vsock
> >>
> >> I don't seen an other errors at all. the old vmware-config.pl file is
> >> also not present.
> > 
> > vmware-config.pl is no longer part of Workstation in 6.5.  It should
> > reconfigure automatically when run as root after booting a new kernel.
> > 
> >> Still searching for answers...
> > 
> > Do you have compilers installed?
> 
> Right that's most likely it. Make sure you have 'kernel-devel' present, 
> and 'gcc'. Also,  is this Workstations 6.5 build 118166 ?

OK - I'll come clean on a little more with this:

* Linux Version: F10 Snap 3 x86_64 with latest rawhide patches (adding
more as I write this)
* VMware Version: VMware Workstation 6.5, 64-bit, build 118166 (the
production version), installed using the new .bundle package since
VMware now prefers this to the RPM according to the beta communities,
release notes, and other documentation
* Relevant Packages installed: kernel-devel, kernel-headers, all
standard development tools and libraries (which includes all of the gcc
stuff)

Including the above packages is standard procedure for me on every Linux
install, regardless of distro used. The extra disk space is absolutely
worth it as you never know when some application out there will require
a so-called development package, but that's a different debate...

Also, Workstation 6.5 will ask for root privileges anytime it needs to
re-compile modules (like when the kernel updates). There is no need to
specifically switch user to root before doing this. It's not confusing
at all (other than perhaps darkening the screen and asking for the root
password is an obvious hack on Vista).

I've been running VMware workstation since the first public betas of
version 1.0 back in 1999, so I do know a thing or two about it. :) I
posted here because there was nothing of substance yet on the VMware
Community sites dealing with F10 Snap 3. I figured someone here had at
least run into this.

I'll find the answer eventually. When I do, I'll post here. Otherwise,
keep ideas flowing...

Cheers,

Chris


--
==============================
"If you are calm while all around you is chaos,
then you probably haven't fully understood
the magnitude of the situation."

--Unknown



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Mon Oct 27 13:56:14 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:56:14 +0200
Subject: freecell crashes x while yum is running
In-Reply-To: <1225108823.8033.0.camel@rosebud>
References: <4905A5F2.8040609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1225108823.8033.0.camel@rosebud>
Message-ID: <4905C87E.7090609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

seth vidal wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:28 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
>   
>> As Red Skeleton was known to say, "I just do them, I don't explain 
>> them". I have noticed more than once that x freezes if I am playing 
>> freecell while running "sudo yum update" from a gnome terminal. I have 
>> not had X freeze in any other scenario. The symptoms of the freeze are:
>>
>>    1. yum is downloading at the time
>>    2. It happens while I am dragging a card - the motion freezesa
>>    3. The mouse still moves but none of the rollovers do anything and
>>       clicking doesn't have any effect
>>    4. The keyboard doesn't have any effect. Not even ctrl-alt-del,
>>       ctrl-alt-f2, or ctrl-alt-backspace
>>    5. The gnome monitor panel applet freezes
>>    6. ssh works. I can log in from another machine
>>    7. /sbin/init 3 doesn't do anything
>>
>> I am running F10 rawhide on a Dell Latitude D620 - integrated Intel 
>> graphics chip. 
>>     
>
> How much memory do you have in the system?
>
> -sv
>   
One Gig of ram  and at least 6 gig free on vars partition. If it happens 
again I check how ram is used.



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 27 14:04:25 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:04:25 -0400
Subject: freecell crashes x while yum is running
In-Reply-To: <4905C87E.7090609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
References: <4905A5F2.8040609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1225108823.8033.0.camel@rosebud> <4905C87E.7090609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
Message-ID: <1225116265.8033.9.camel@rosebud>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 15:56 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
> seth vidal wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:28 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
> >   
> >> As Red Skeleton was known to say, "I just do them, I don't explain 
> >> them". I have noticed more than once that x freezes if I am playing 
> >> freecell while running "sudo yum update" from a gnome terminal. I have 
> >> not had X freeze in any other scenario. The symptoms of the freeze are:
> >>
> >>    1. yum is downloading at the time
> >>    2. It happens while I am dragging a card - the motion freezesa
> >>    3. The mouse still moves but none of the rollovers do anything and
> >>       clicking doesn't have any effect
> >>    4. The keyboard doesn't have any effect. Not even ctrl-alt-del,
> >>       ctrl-alt-f2, or ctrl-alt-backspace
> >>    5. The gnome monitor panel applet freezes
> >>    6. ssh works. I can log in from another machine
> >>    7. /sbin/init 3 doesn't do anything
> >>
> >> I am running F10 rawhide on a Dell Latitude D620 - integrated Intel 
> >> graphics chip. 
> >>     
> >
> > How much memory do you have in the system?
> >
> > -sv
> >   
> One Gig of ram  and at least 6 gig free on vars partition. If it happens 
> again I check how ram is used.

and type 'dmesg' and look for OOM or Out-of-Memory in the output.

-sv




From plarsen at famlarsen.homelinux.com  Mon Oct 27 14:11:03 2008
From: plarsen at famlarsen.homelinux.com (Peter Larsen)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:11:03 -0400
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <ge28aa$6er$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<1223572252.23405.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<20081009191716.GA3169@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
	<1223584744.3241.46.camel@flatline>  <ge28aa$6er$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1225116663.7117.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 17:11 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> James Laska wrote:
> 
> > The main reason for suggesting we communicate Fedora testing on the XO
> > on this list was to build on the experiences of the already established
> > fedora-test-list community. 
> 
> Slightly OT, but is the XO actually a good buy,
> compared say with the EeePC ?

It's not a PC like you're used to. Or at least, it's not something you
do big compiles on, setup databases and webservers on. It's a low end
system however it has some amazing features. Easy portable, great LCD in
sunlight, rucked etc. 

I can see it as a powerful alternative to some PDAs when it comes to
in-the-field operations.

> I thought it was meant to poor countries.
> Does the US now fall into this category?
> Sorry.

Unfortunately, the answer there is yes. At least in some parts; XO - or
OLPC is about giving children that otherwise wouldn't have it, a chance
to gain technology knowledge and there through general knowledge and
learning. Skills they need to survive, get good jobs etc.

OLPC is actually giving away XO's in some parts of the US. Tragic but
true.

-- 
Peter Larsen <plarsen at famlarsen.homelinux.com>
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From bruno at wolff.to  Mon Oct 27 14:14:29 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:14:29 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081027141429.GA19805@wolff.to>

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 13:39:40 -0500,
  Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I repeat. I think disabled is the best option for the largest
> audience. Overall, the majority of time spent re-labeling occurs when
> we disable selinux in firstboot.

FYI, when you disable selinux a relabel doesn't occur. It's just that
processes stop properly labelling new files, so that if you turn selinux
back on (even in permissive mode), all files on the system need to be checked
to make sure they are properly labelled.

> No selinux. No problems. Everything else that needs to be logged gets logged.

The logs from selinux can be useful even in permissive mode and include
information that is not included in other logs. Whether or not they are
useful often enough to justify the overhead by default is something reasonably
debated.



From caf at omen.com  Mon Oct 27 14:30:25 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:30:25 -0700
Subject: adduser doesn't quite get it
Message-ID: <4905D081.8030606@omen.com>

A user added with the adduser command doesn't seem to have as many
privileges as one added from the GUI.  The obvious one is the ability to
use the sound system.  That was the problem with xmms.

Apparently there is some magic information being stored somewhere
than /etc/passwd and /etc/group.

I see Linux tending to store important settings in strange places,
one of the things I hate about Microsoft Windows.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From caf at omen.com  Mon Oct 27 14:35:02 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:35:02 -0700
Subject: Lack of feedback from Anaconds GUI
Message-ID: <4905D196.6030804@omen.com>

When the NEXT button is clicked on the GUI install, nothing
visible happens.  This tempts the user to click it again.  The
spurious click then causes the GUI to whizz past the next step.

Good interface design would have the button go dark when
activated.    At the very least, purge the input event queue
before displaying the next button.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From selinux at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 14:50:26 2008
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:50:26 -0700
Subject: /.dbus and /.tmp - leftovers (from Snap2 install) or needed?
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530810270750o68f528f0tf6b1e57c3937d4bd@mail.gmail.com>

Running Snap2 installed system (no problems, thanks!).

Noticed /.dbus and /.tmp.  These needed?

[root at tlondon /]# ls -lad /.tmp /.dbus
drwx------ 3 root root 4096 2008-10-17 14:06 /.dbus
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-10-17 14:04 /.tmp
[root at tlondon /]#

Curious minds ....

tom
-- 
Tom London



From caf at omen.com  Mon Oct 27 14:52:16 2008
From: caf at omen.com (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:52:16 -0700
Subject: Nvidia and SElinux
Message-ID: <4905D5A0.9000108@omen.com>

The Nvidia X driver is a "killer application".  Can't get the
card fan to quiet down without it.  Cen't get compiz running
without it.  Some apps such as Flightgear aren't usable without it.

Integrated motherboard graphics I've seen are too slow.
Not an answer except for servers people hardly look at.

Assuming SElinux provides an important level of real world
protection, it needs to work in the desktop world.  If SElinux
is that important it shouldn't be such a hassle that only server
admins will put up with it.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 15:04:59 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:34:59 -0430
Subject: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <49057FC0.6010005@poolshark.org>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<1225049743.27796.7.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<49057FC0.6010005@poolshark.org>
Message-ID: <1225119899.4647.34.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 09:45 +0100, Denis Leroy wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 08:23 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >> Trying from the command line, I get
> >> messages back that several modules and services are not running.
> > 
> > Do you get this?:
> > 
> >         % vmware
> >         vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
> >         for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following
> >         command:
> >         /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
> >         
> > If so, run /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl (as root). Good luck though, recent
> > vmware versions have variable results, at least on x86_64 (I ended up
> > switching to VirtualBox).
> 
> As mentioned in another post, Workstations >= 6.5 no longer uses 
> vmware-config.pl: the module building is directly integrated into the 
> vmware executable.

Interesting, I hadn't known that.

> That has the drawback of having to run vmware as root 
>   at least once to give it a chance to build the modules, which is 
> confusing.

vmware-config also had to be run under root of course.

poc



From katzj at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 15:12:51 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:12:51 -0400
Subject: /.dbus and /.tmp - leftovers (from Snap2 install) or needed?
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530810270750o68f528f0tf6b1e57c3937d4bd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c4ba1530810270750o68f528f0tf6b1e57c3937d4bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1225120371.23788.27.camel@aglarond.local>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 07:50 -0700, Tom London wrote:
> Running Snap2 installed system (no problems, thanks!).
> 
> Noticed /.dbus and /.tmp.  These needed?
> 
> [root at tlondon /]# ls -lad /.tmp /.dbus
> drwx------ 3 root root 4096 2008-10-17 14:06 /.dbus
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-10-17 14:04 /.tmp
> [root at tlondon /]#

/.tmp is definitely from anaconda but was supposed to be getting gotten
rid of, may have slipped through the cracks.  I'm going to suspect that
the /.dbus is from the same cause without a quick check.

Can you file a bug against anaconda and make sure it blocks F10Blocker?

Thanks,

Jeremy



From rdieter at math.unl.edu  Mon Oct 27 15:15:56 2008
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:15:56 -0500
Subject: Nvidia and SElinux
References: <4905D5A0.9000108@omen.com>
Message-ID: <ge4lvc$48t$1@ger.gmane.org>

Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:

> The Nvidia X driver is a "killer application".  Can't get the
> card fan to quiet down without it.  Cen't get compiz running
> without it.  Some apps such as Flightgear aren't usable without it.
> 
> Integrated motherboard graphics I've seen are too slow.
> Not an answer except for servers people hardly look at.
> 
> Assuming SElinux provides an important level of real world
> protection, it needs to work in the desktop world.  If SElinux
> is that important it shouldn't be such a hassle that only server
> admins will put up with it.

heh, or better:  Nvidia could fix their driver to not have the security
issues for which selinux is (arguably/rightfully) denying.

-- Rex



From drago01 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 16:14:42 2008
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:14:42 +0100
Subject: ATI-Card shows Window-Buttons false, if Desktop-effects enabled
In-Reply-To: <2919.193.73.106.102.1225099678.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
References: <2919.193.73.106.102.1225099678.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0810270914y6bae60b6wfdd54c7283ebfab0@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Roger Grosswiler <roger at gwch.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This weekend, i got also F10Beta on my working-machine :)
>
> it worked out of the box, but i still work on details. One of the first i saw was, that
> if i enable desktopeffects on that box, there is a space between the 3 buttons
> (minimize, maximize, close), the size of the space seems the same as the button itself.

This bug has been reported and have built a compiz package with a fix,
please update your system. (yum update or via PackageKit)



From selinux at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 16:29:11 2008
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:29:11 -0700
Subject: /.dbus and /.tmp - leftovers (from Snap2 install) or needed?
In-Reply-To: <1225120371.23788.27.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <4c4ba1530810270750o68f528f0tf6b1e57c3937d4bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225120371.23788.27.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530810270929l5cfef7eib0c3ee52d95c5513@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 07:50 -0700, Tom London wrote:
>> Running Snap2 installed system (no problems, thanks!).
>>
>> Noticed /.dbus and /.tmp.  These needed?
>>
>> [root at tlondon /]# ls -lad /.tmp /.dbus
>> drwx------ 3 root root 4096 2008-10-17 14:06 /.dbus
>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-10-17 14:04 /.tmp
>> [root at tlondon /]#
>
> /.tmp is definitely from anaconda but was supposed to be getting gotten
> rid of, may have slipped through the cracks.  I'm going to suspect that
> the /.dbus is from the same cause without a quick check.
>
> Can you file a bug against anaconda and make sure it blocks F10Blocker?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>
Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468720

-- 
Tom London



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 16:41:03 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:41:03 -0600
Subject: java plugin question
References: <ge23r4$p46$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <ge4qv0$vf7$1@ger.gmane.org>

Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> wrote:

Hi,

How can I reproduce this? The rpm removes the gcjwebplugin.so link and 
replaces it with IcedTeaPlugin.so (includes javascript support).

do you see the IcedTeaPlugin.so link in the libjavaplugin.so alternatives?


Thanks
Lillian

---------

Typing alternatives --config libjavaplugin.so shows that the icedtea plugin in configured, but not /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/lib/i386/gcjwebplugin.so.



From jkeating at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 16:41:26 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:41:26 -0700
Subject: Fedora Test Day - F10 Installation Guide
In-Reply-To: <162a15970810260920l35af4431xb61b89b43135a4f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1224772432.5639.78.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<78323d480810241006h6e35a0feq61d7ef54c5b007cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081024222016.GA11296@shell.devel.redhat.com>
	<162a15970810260920l35af4431xb61b89b43135a4f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1225125686.2157.7.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 12:20 -0400, Zenko Klapko Jr. wrote:
> Right, because terrorists get all of their plans from watching Looney
> Tunes.

No, but airport security may get all their anti-terrorist training from
Looney Tunes.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Mon Oct 27 16:44:59 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:44:59 -0400
Subject: Fedora Test Day - F10 Installation Guide
In-Reply-To: <1225125686.2157.7.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <1224772432.5639.78.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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	<1225125686.2157.7.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1225125899.8033.23.camel@rosebud>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 09:41 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 12:20 -0400, Zenko Klapko Jr. wrote:
> > Right, because terrorists get all of their plans from watching Looney
> > Tunes.
> 
> No, but airport security may get all their anti-terrorist training from
> Looney Tunes.
> 

I believe you mean the keystone cops:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Cops

-sv





From jkeating at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 16:52:42 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:52:42 -0700
Subject: adduser doesn't quite get it
In-Reply-To: <4905D081.8030606@omen.com>
References: <4905D081.8030606@omen.com>
Message-ID: <1225126362.2157.8.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 07:30 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> A user added with the adduser command doesn't seem to have as many
> privileges as one added from the GUI.  The obvious one is the ability to
> use the sound system.  That was the problem with xmms.

Which command line tool did you use to create the user?  IIRC one of
them (luseradd) uses libuser as the backend, which can set the selinux
permissions correctly where as useradd does not.  That could be the key
missing thing.  Did you check for selinux denials?

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From jkeating at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 16:54:44 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:54:44 -0700
Subject: Snap Releases
In-Reply-To: <f30915689ca4c35a2b490bcdc6fb845b@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <f30915689ca4c35a2b490bcdc6fb845b@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <1225126484.2157.9.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 21:47 +0100, rjames wrote:
> If you are going to be overburning these things, at least say so, so
> people won't waste their time downloading something that's going to be
> unusable on their machines.

The announcement email for Snapshot 3 warned that the i686 Live image
was a little over size.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From jkeating at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 17:28:42 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:28:42 -0700
Subject: Yum install status char '#' doesn't proceed in the same line
In-Reply-To: <20081026031028.GA9774@Nalanda.localdomain>
References: <20081026031028.GA9774@Nalanda.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1225128522.2157.12.camel@luminos.localdomain>

> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 11:10 +0800, Wheelz wrote:
> 
> If locale is en_US.utf8, it's ok.
> 
> If locale is zh_CN.utf8, the proceeding '#' will not go at the same line,
> just like the following:

Should be fixed in yum 3.2.20


-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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From michal at harddata.com  Mon Oct 27 17:44:29 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:44:29 -0600
Subject: adduser doesn't quite get it
In-Reply-To: <1225126362.2157.8.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <4905D081.8030606@omen.com>
	<1225126362.2157.8.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081027174429.GA30986@mail.harddata.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:52:42AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 07:30 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> > A user added with the adduser command doesn't seem to have as many
> > privileges as one added from the GUI.  The obvious one is the ability to
> > use the sound system.  That was the problem with xmms.
> 
> Which command line tool did you use to create the user?  IIRC one of
> them (luseradd) uses libuser as the backend, which can set the selinux
> permissions correctly where as useradd does not.

In such situation should not be useradd "fronted" by a shell script
which uses luseradd when possible and "the real useradd", with a
possible warning, in the remaining cases?  Unfortunately there is
no one-to-one mapping in options.  As a matter of fact only useradd
mentions something selinux related (option '--selinux-user').

Before anybody will ask - adduser and useradd this is the same
thing.

   Michal



From mfran1952 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 27 18:41:21 2008
From: mfran1952 at yahoo.com (Michael Francis)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:41:21 -0400
Subject: F10-beta on Lenovo W700
In-Reply-To: <1225084475.6874.177.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
References: <1225081461.6874.170.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
	<1225083945.3077.23.camel@zebes.localdomain>
	<1225084475.6874.177.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
Message-ID: <f1a961940810271141x10988cefwea080bca3d6ef5d6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, how it going? did you try to load the X86 versions of the source to
track results?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage <dsavage at peaknet.net
> wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 01:05 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:24 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > > Has anyone else tried to install F10-beta/x86_64 on Lenovo's new W700
> > > super-laptop? After anaconda finishes checking package selections for
> > > dependencies, it throws an unhandled exception.
> >
> > Okay, but what was the exception/traceback? Without knowing that, it's
> > nearly impossible to guess what happened here.
> >
> > The only thing I can suggest without that info is that you try again
> > with the most recent snapshot build, from
> > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ or
> > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/
>
> That's the problem. Since no packages get installed, the system can't
> send the traceback log to bugzilla. (Bit of a chicken/egg situation.)
> I've attached a manual transcription of perhaps the first 10%. It'll
> take me several days to finish the rest.
>
> --Doc Savage
>  Fairview Heights, IL
>
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From dwalsh at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 18:59:18 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:59:18 -0400
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
Message-ID: <49060F86.6020505@redhat.com>

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Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> After installing the Nvidia driver I tried to enable special effects
> but was thwarted by an AVC denial.  I couldn't get the acceleration
> enabled until I turned off SElinux.
> 
> It seems with Fedora and SElinux is it simply a matter of time
> before SElinux throws a spanner in the works at which time
> I have to get rid of it.
> 
> A security tool that is incompatible with normal use to the
> extent it must be disabled offers no real security.  Perhaps
> it should be an add-on for security geeks instead of a default
> annoyance.    
> Chuck Forsberg    caf at omen.com   www.omen.com   503-614-0430
> Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
>  Omen Technology Inc      "The High Reliability Software"
> 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   FAX 629-0665
> 
I would bet your problem was with executable memory, which nvidia
libraries cause.  You can turn on allow_execstack boolean to allow
executable memory, and then SELinux would stop complaining.


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From dwalsh at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 19:09:45 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:09:45 -0400
Subject: rawhide:selinux relabeled fs, now cannot login
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Tom London wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468645
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not kidding. I didn't create this problem to prove a point.. I'm
>>> serious, I didn't! :-)
>>> Really though, I took a laptop running rawhide, just updated this morning.
>>> In s-c-selinux I set Enforcing. [I did *not* see a "relabeling takes
>>> time" warning like I did in f8]
>>> Rebooted.
>>> Relabel started. I went to fridge, folded some clothes, whatever...
>>> I see it rebooting, seems to come to level 5 normally. But users,
>>> root, nobody can login, graphical, tty, nothing.
>>> I booted in rescue, start sshd.
>>> My root ssh login gives me
>>> "Unable to get valid context for root"
>>> but gives me a shell anyway. [thats good!]
>>> SElinux startup in dmesg and boot.log are normal.
>>> ****
>>> Snippets from /var/log/secure:
>>>
>>> Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_selinux(kdm:session):
>>> Error!  Unable to set jerry key creation context
>>> system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0.
>>> Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_unix(kdm:session):
>>> session opened for user jerry by (uid=0)
>>> Oct 26 19:56:13 JerryA-D600 kdm: :0[2223]: pam_unix(kdm:session):
>>> session closed for user jerry
>>>
>>> Oct 26 19:57:28 JerryA-D600 login: pam_selinux(login:session): Error!
>>> Unable to set root key creation context
>>> system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023.
>>> Oct 26 19:57:28 JerryA-D600 login: pam_unix(login:session): session
>>> opened for user root by LOGIN(uid=0)
>>> Oct 26 19:57:29 JerryA-D600 login: Authentication failure
>>>
>>> ****
>>> Snippets from /var/log/messages:
>>>
>>> Oct 26 19:56:14 JerryA-D600 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing kdm
>>> (xdm_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t. For complete SELinux messages. run
>>> sealert -l 06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
>>>
>>> Oct 26 19:57:29 JerryA-D600 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
>>> login (local_login_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t. For complete SELinux
>>> messages. run sealert -l fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
>>>
>>> ****
>>> Upon starting setroubleshootd, I was able to get this:
>>>
>>> [root at localhost log]# sealert -l 06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
>>>
>>> Summary:
>>>
>>> SELinux is preventing kdm (xdm_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t.
>>>
>>> Detailed Description:
>>>
>>> SELinux denied access requested by kdm. It is not expected that this access is
>>> required by kdm and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
>>> possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
>>> causing it to require additional access.
>>>
>>> Allowing Access:
>>>
>>> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
>>> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
>>> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
>>> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
>>> against this package.
>>>
>>> Additional Information:
>>>
>>> Source Context                system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>>> Target Context                system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0
>>> Target Objects                None [ key ]
>>> Source                        kdm
>>> Source Path                   /usr/bin/kdm
>>> Port                          <Unknown>
>>> Host                          JerryA-D600
>>> Source RPM Packages           kdebase-workspace-4.1.2-7.fc10
>>> Target RPM Packages
>>> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-7.fc10
>>> Selinux Enabled               True
>>> Policy Type                   targeted
>>> MLS Enabled                   True
>>> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
>>> Plugin Name                   catchall
>>> Host Name                     JerryA-D600
>>> Platform                      Linux JerryA-D600 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed
>>>                              Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
>>> Alert Count                   4
>>> First Seen                    Sun Oct 26 19:56:13 2008
>>> Last Seen                     Sun Oct 26 19:59:53 2008
>>> Local ID                      06841090-2a80-4302-85fa-32121e402c57
>>> Line Numbers
>>>
>>> Raw Audit Messages
>>>
>>> node=JerryA-D600 type=AVC msg=audit(1225069193.250:10): avc:  denied
>>> { create } for  pid=2227 comm="kdm"
>>> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>>> tcontext=system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0 tclass=key
>>>
>>> node=JerryA-D600 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225069193.250:10):
>>> arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=no exit=-13 a0=6 a1=8ab6d50 a2=25
>>> a3=8ab6d50 items=0 ppid=2173 pid=2227 auid=500 uid=0 gid=500 euid=0
>>> suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 tty=(none) ses=1 comm="kdm"
>>> exe="/usr/bin/kdm" subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>>> key=(null)
>>>
>>> ****
>>> and this:
>>> [root at localhost log]# sealert -l fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
>>>
>>> Summary:
>>>
>>> SELinux is preventing login (local_login_t) "create" system_chkpwd_t.
>>>
>>> Detailed Description:
>>>
>>> SELinux denied access requested by login. It is not expected that this access is
>>> required by login and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
>>> possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
>>> causing it to require additional access.
>>>
>>> Allowing Access:
>>>
>>> You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
>>> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can disable
>>> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not recommended.
>>> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
>>> against this package.
>>>
>>> Additional Information:
>>>
>>> Source Context                system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>>> Target Context                system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>>> Target Objects                None [ key ]
>>> Source                        login
>>> Source Path                   /bin/login
>>> Port                          <Unknown>
>>> Host                          JerryA-D600
>>> Source RPM Packages           util-linux-ng-2.14.1-3.fc10
>>> Target RPM Packages
>>> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.5.13-7.fc10
>>> Selinux Enabled               True
>>> Policy Type                   targeted
>>> MLS Enabled                   True
>>> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
>>> Plugin Name                   catchall
>>> Host Name                     JerryA-D600
>>> Platform                      Linux JerryA-D600 2.6.27.3-39.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed
>>>                              Oct 22 21:35:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686
>>> Alert Count                   3
>>> First Seen                    Sun Oct 26 19:57:28 2008
>>> Last Seen                     Sun Oct 26 20:00:06 2008
>>> Local ID                      fcadfe5d-c3f9-41ef-86a7-107480d77831
>>> Line Numbers
>>>
>>> Raw Audit Messages
>>>
>>> node=JerryA-D600 type=AVC msg=audit(1225069206.632:18): avc:  denied
>>> { create } for  pid=2178 comm="login"
>>> scontext=system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>>> tcontext=system_u:system_r:system_chkpwd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=key
>>>
>>> node=JerryA-D600 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225069206.632:18):
>>> arch=40000003 syscall=4 success=no exit=-13 a0=3 a1=8586d68 a2=31
>>> a3=8586d68 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2178 auid=0 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0
>>> fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=tty2 ses=2 comm="login"
>>> exe="/bin/login" subj=system_u:system_r:local_login_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>>> key=(null)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> jerry
>>>
> Booting in permissive mode (via kernel boot option of "enforcing=0")
> may allow you to boot/login in such circumstances, also providing
> access to any AVCs that may be causing problems.
> 
> If that allows you to boot (either to runlevel 3 or 5), "audit2allow
> -l" may provide some tell-tale clues....
> 
> Can't recall the last time I needed to resort to a rescue CD......
> 
> tom
This looks like your user database is screwed up.

# semanage login -l
# semanage user -l


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From dwalsh at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 19:21:07 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:21:07 -0400
Subject: Nvidia and SElinux
In-Reply-To: <4905D5A0.9000108@omen.com>
References: <4905D5A0.9000108@omen.com>
Message-ID: <490614A3.1040706@redhat.com>

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Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> The Nvidia X driver is a "killer application".  Can't get the
> card fan to quiet down without it.  Cen't get compiz running
> without it.  Some apps such as Flightgear aren't usable without it.
> 
> Integrated motherboard graphics I've seen are too slow.
> Not an answer except for servers people hardly look at.
> 
> Assuming SElinux provides an important level of real world
> protection, it needs to work in the desktop world.  If SElinux
> is that important it shouldn't be such a hassle that only server
> admins will put up with it.
> 
If you want to run SELinux and NVidia libraries and propretary blobs you
will need to turn off execstack protection.

# setsebool -P allow_execstack 1

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From drago01 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 19:38:47 2008
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:38:47 +0100
Subject: Nvidia and SElinux
In-Reply-To: <490614A3.1040706@redhat.com>
References: <4905D5A0.9000108@omen.com> <490614A3.1040706@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0810271238ifea37e8uc9141e54f80997d2@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> wrote:
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> Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
>> The Nvidia X driver is a "killer application".  Can't get the
>> card fan to quiet down without it.  Cen't get compiz running
>> without it.  Some apps such as Flightgear aren't usable without it.
>>
>> Integrated motherboard graphics I've seen are too slow.
>> Not an answer except for servers people hardly look at.
>>
>> Assuming SElinux provides an important level of real world
>> protection, it needs to work in the desktop world.  If SElinux
>> is that important it shouldn't be such a hassle that only server
>> admins will put up with it.
>>
> If you want to run SELinux and NVidia libraries and propretary blobs you
> will need to turn off execstack protection.
>
> # setsebool -P allow_execstack 1

is it possible to enable it only for specific libs? if yes maybe
nvidia can fix up their installer / rpmfusion can fix their packages.



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Mon Oct 27 20:03:15 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:03:15 -0600
Subject: Solved: F10 Snap 3, VMware Workstation 6.5, and ThinkPad T400
In-Reply-To: <1225112546.8799.17.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
References: <1225031028.26469.11.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
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On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 07:02 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 09:00 +0100, Denis Leroy wrote:
> > Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 15:35 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 19:57 +0100, Denis Leroy wrote:
> > >>> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > >>>> kills X. Hopefully the accelerated drivers will work better...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm trying now to get VMware Workstation 6.5 up and running. It installs
> > >>>> without incident from the Bundle file. The RPM doesn't. In both cases,
> > >>>> Workstation simply refuses to start. Trying from the command line, I get
> > >>>> messages back that several modules and services are not running. Does
> > >>>> anybody have this working??? This is the next critical piece for me to
> > >>>> solve...
> > >>> You need to run vmware as root the first time, so it can compile its 
> > >>> host-side kernel modules. Once that's done, quit and restart it.
> > >> No dice. I reinstalled and then ran as root the first time. Here's what
> > >> I get as error messages back:
> > >>
> > >> Logging to /tmp/vmware-root/setup-5583.log
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vmmon
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vmnet
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vmblock
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vmci
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vsock
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vmmon
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vmnet
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vmblock
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vmci
> > >> modinfo: could not find module vsock
> > >>
> > >> I don't seen an other errors at all. the old vmware-config.pl file is
> > >> also not present.
> > > 
> > > vmware-config.pl is no longer part of Workstation in 6.5.  It should
> > > reconfigure automatically when run as root after booting a new kernel.
> > > 
> > >> Still searching for answers...
> > > 
> > > Do you have compilers installed?
> > 
> > Right that's most likely it. Make sure you have 'kernel-devel' present, 
> > and 'gcc'. Also,  is this Workstations 6.5 build 118166 ?
> 
> OK - I'll come clean on a little more with this:
> 
> * Linux Version: F10 Snap 3 x86_64 with latest rawhide patches (adding
> more as I write this)
> * VMware Version: VMware Workstation 6.5, 64-bit, build 118166 (the
> production version), installed using the new .bundle package since
> VMware now prefers this to the RPM according to the beta communities,
> release notes, and other documentation
> * Relevant Packages installed: kernel-devel, kernel-headers, all
> standard development tools and libraries (which includes all of the gcc
> stuff)

Problem fixed. The answer is in the VMware Communities discussion lists.
It was the segmentation fault problem that has cropped up in VMware
Workstation 6.5 when running on F10 Beta and later. Basically,
Workstation 6.5 segfaults when configuring modules. But, because of the
way I was launching VMware (either via the menu entry or just "vmware"
from the command prompt), the actual segmentation fault error was being
suppressed.

Since the modules weren't loading, I had to assume they weren't being
compiled and installed. I knew there had to be a way to force configure
them. VMware wouldn't remove vmware-config.pl without replacing its
functionality with something else. That turns out to be the case.

There is a specific command you can use to force-reconfigure and install
all of the modules in Workstation 6.5:
# vmware-modconfig --console --install-all

This command allows the actual segfault error to show up (and also is
what then put me on the right track).

The post resolving the problem says:

> Guys, same problem here with rawhide, put a strace on it, it bombs out
> on enumerating binary modules dir, so I did:
> 
> 
> mv /usr/lib/vmware/modules/binary /usr/lib/vmware/modules/binary.old
> 
> 
> And voila, no more segfaults...

The full thread can be found at:
http://communities.vmware.com/thread/172023

Cheers,

Chris

--
====================================
"Ninety-nine percent of the failures
come from people who have the habit
of making excuses."

--George Washington Carver



From mhw at WittsEnd.com  Mon Oct 27 20:11:23 2008
From: mhw at WittsEnd.com (Michael H. Warfield)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:11:23 -0400
Subject: F10 Snap 3 SCSI boot STILL broken was: Re: Rawhide does not boot
	since 2.6.27-0.398
In-Reply-To: <1223949523.7723.256.camel@canyon.wittsend.com>
References: <411353.61028.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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	The problem with mkinitrd described in this thread and in the two
bugzilla tickets is still an open issue and some real SCSI controllers
have now been identified, and not just VMWare images.  This needs to be
a blocker.

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 21:58 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 14:47 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 18:37 +0200, Bruno GARDIN wrote:
> > > Antonio i just tried your trick:
> > > Up at line 1411 I changed "wait_for_scsi="no"" to "wait_for_scsi="yes""
> > > and rebuild the initrd
> > > I worked just fine. Thanks a lot.
> 
> > 	That was my trick.  I think you got the attributions swapped around,
> > but that's ok.  It was getting a little thick.
> 
> > 	Looks like the workaround has caught the attention of the folks on
> > bugzilla for that bug.  It's being discussed now what the best solution
> > for the race condition is with an agreement that this race must be fix.
> 
> 	In discussion over in bugzilla, we determined another workaround.  You
> can use the "--with=scsi_wait_scan" option when running mkinitrd OR
> create the file /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd with the following line in it:
> 
> MODULES=scsi_wait_scan
> 
> 	Then recreate your initrd.  It works slightly differently but has the
> same effect and you're not modifying mkinitrd.
> 
> > > Bruno
> 
> > 	Mike
> 
> 	Mike
> 
> > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 08:42 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Michael,
> > > >
> > > >> You have a very valid point.  My problem was that the partition(not
> > > >> the boot partition) was ext4 and had ext4dev, and it was changed to
> > > >> plainly ext4.  I had to change /etc/fstab from ext4dev to ext4 then
> > > >> reinstalled the kernel and it worked :)
> > > >
> > > >        Yeah, reading the various threads, I had already come to the conclusion
> > > > that we were dealing with at LEAST two different problems, one being the
> > > > ext4dev/ext4 problem.  But I wasn't using ext4 (in fact some of my
> > > > testing is the 2.6.27 kernel on F9) and others were reporting that it
> > > > wasn't fixing the problem.
> > > >
> > > >> But you are correct with the scsi/dm Volume group(lvms)
> > > >
> > > >        Looks like there is at least one bug already filed on this.
> > > >
> > > >        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071
> > > >
> > > >        They're blaming this one on VMware but I'm not sure I would trust this
> > > > not to arise on other scsi drivers.
> > > >
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >
> > > >> Antonio
> > > >
> > > >        Regards,
> > > >        Mike
> > > > --
> > > > Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 |  mhw at WittsEnd.com
> > > >   /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678) 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
> > > >   NIC whois: MHW9          | An optimist believes we live in the best of all
> > > >  PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471        | possible worlds.  A pessimist is sure of it!

> > > -- 
> > > BeGe

	Mike
-- 
Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 |  mhw at WittsEnd.com
   /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/          | (678) 463-0932 |  http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/
   NIC whois: MHW9          | An optimist believes we live in the best of all
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From wwoods at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 20:12:44 2008
From: wwoods at redhat.com (Will Woods)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:12:44 -0400
Subject: F10-beta on Lenovo W700
In-Reply-To: <1225084475.6874.177.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
References: <1225081461.6874.170.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
	<1225083945.3077.23.camel@zebes.localdomain>
	<1225084475.6874.177.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
Message-ID: <1225138364.3523.32.camel@metroid.rdu.redhat.com>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 00:14 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 01:05 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:24 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > > Has anyone else tried to install F10-beta/x86_64 on Lenovo's new W700
> > > super-laptop? After anaconda finishes checking package selections for
> > > dependencies, it throws an unhandled exception.
> > 
> > Okay, but what was the exception/traceback? Without knowing that, it's
> > nearly impossible to guess what happened here.
> > 
> > The only thing I can suggest without that info is that you try again
> > with the most recent snapshot build, from
> > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ or
> > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/
> 
> That's the problem. Since no packages get installed, the system can't
> send the traceback log to bugzilla. (Bit of a chicken/egg situation.)
> I've attached a manual transcription of perhaps the first 10%. It'll
> take me several days to finish the rest.

The most important part is the traceback - this top bit:

anaconda 11.4.1.40 exception report
Traceback (most recent call first):
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/network.py", line 529, in write
    if dev.tet('GATEWAY'):
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py", line 1469 in doPreInstall
    anaconda.id.network.write(andaconda.rootPath)
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/backend.py", line 258, in doPreInstall
    anaconda.backend.doPreInstall(anaconda)
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 204, in moveStep
    rc = stepFunc(self.anaconda)
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 127, in gotoNext
    self.moveStep()
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1349, in nextClicked
    self.anaconda.dispatch.gotoNext()
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/ow/progress_gui.py", line 79, in
renderCallback
    self.intf.icw.nextClicked()
  File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1370, in handleRenderCallback
    self.currentWindow.renderCallback()
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'dev' referenced before assignment

Don't worry about recopying the rest unless bits of it are specifically
needed. I'd suggest filing a bug report with the traceback and your
lspci output. 

Keep in mind that the first thing that will be asked is: "Have you tried
using a more recent snapshot?" So you might want to try that first, if
possible.

-w
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From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 20:31:09 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:31:09 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap3 is a step backwards?
Message-ID: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't seen anyone else mention it.

--overlay-size-mb 512 --swap-size-mb 384 (from
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO) is too big
for the 4G SD. I used 384 and 256.

First time power up I think the kernel had an oops while booting.

Second time got as far as the login and clicked the Login button.
After 30 seconds of nothing happening I pressed Ctrl-Alt-F2 and
switched to text-mode getty on tty2 before the box wedged.

Third time got past the login (now with  the wrong DPI) and got as far
as the Appearances Preferences to try to reset the DPI, and also
started a terminal before the box wedged.

What do they say about doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results?

Anyone have any better luck with Snap3?

/Blake



From ivazqueznet at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 20:50:45 2008
From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:50:45 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap3 is a step backwards?
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1225140645.25414.59.camel@ignacio.lan>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 16:31 -0400, Blake St. Claire wrote:
> Anyone have any better luck with Snap3?

I'm getting to the GNOME desktop, but getting occasional failures of
certain apps and panel applets to start. However, I'm running off a ext
HD with plenty of overlay and swap (8GB and 2GB).

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet at gmail.com>

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
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From jlaska at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 20:51:03 2008
From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:51:03 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap3 is a step backwards?
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1225140663.15746.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 16:31 -0400, Blake St. Claire wrote:
> I haven't seen anyone else mention it.
> 
> --overlay-size-mb 512 --swap-size-mb 384 (from
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO) is too big
> for the 4G SD. I used 384 and 256.
> 
> First time power up I think the kernel had an oops while booting.
> 
> Second time got as far as the login and clicked the Login button.
> After 30 seconds of nothing happening I pressed Ctrl-Alt-F2 and
> switched to text-mode getty on tty2 before the box wedged.
> 
> Third time got past the login (now with  the wrong DPI) and got as far
> as the Appearances Preferences to try to reset the DPI, and also
> started a terminal before the box wedged.
> 
> What do they say about doing the same thing over and over and
> expecting different results?
> 
> Anyone have any better luck with Snap3?

Working okay on my XO, however I read from Ignacio that you may need to
use a smaller swap and overlap when writing the image to the SD card. 

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:37 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> I had to reduce them to 320 and 256 in order to get them to fit.

Does that help?  Any stdout/err messages when writing your SD card?

Thanks,
James
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From dbhole at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 20:55:54 2008
From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:55:54 -0400
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
	test!)
Message-ID: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>

Hi All,

As some of you already know, we have been working on getting Liveconnect
support into Fedora 10 via the new Iced Tea Plugin. Liveconnect is a 
feature that allows JavaScript from a browser (Firefox) to access 
Java, and vice-versa. The newest build of OpenJDK 
(java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-2b12.fc10 --
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=907625) should have
the latest of the plugin code. This will be in tomorrow's (2008-10-28)
rawhide.

Barring any critical bugs, this is the version of the plugin that will
go into Fedora 10. If you use any applets that don't work and would
like to see them working in F10, please try it out and file bugs
accordingly; I will try my best to squeeze in as many fixes as possible.

Also, while most users will not have to do this: If you use the Sun Java  
Plugin, or if applets do not work after installing the new plugin rpm, 
you may also need to set the plugin via alternatives. This is done by 
'alternatives --config libjavaplugin.so' on i386, and 
'alternatives --config libjavaplugin.so.x86_64' on x86_64

Known issues:
- chessgames.com has some drawing problems -- this is being worked on
- WebEx works, but requires firefox to be restarted for the first use
- Pages with cache_* params (very small percentage) may not work

Cheers,
Deepak

PS: I cannot take all the credit for this nice feature :) This is a
result of joint work between Tom Fitzsimmons (who started the project and
continues to provide input) and myself.



From dwalsh at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 21:27:02 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:27:02 -0400
Subject: Nvidia and SElinux
In-Reply-To: <f6ca9fed0810271238ifea37e8uc9141e54f80997d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4905D5A0.9000108@omen.com> <490614A3.1040706@redhat.com>
	<f6ca9fed0810271238ifea37e8uc9141e54f80997d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49063226.9090008@redhat.com>

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> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>> Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
>>> The Nvidia X driver is a "killer application".  Can't get the
>>> card fan to quiet down without it.  Cen't get compiz running
>>> without it.  Some apps such as Flightgear aren't usable without it.
>>>
>>> Integrated motherboard graphics I've seen are too slow.
>>> Not an answer except for servers people hardly look at.
>>>
>>> Assuming SElinux provides an important level of real world
>>> protection, it needs to work in the desktop world.  If SElinux
>>> is that important it shouldn't be such a hassle that only server
>>> admins will put up with it.
>>>
>> If you want to run SELinux and NVidia libraries and propretary blobs you
>> will need to turn off execstack protection.
>>
>> # setsebool -P allow_execstack 1
> 
> is it possible to enable it only for specific libs? if yes maybe
> nvidia can fix up their installer / rpmfusion can fix their packages.
> 
We cam do this for execmod checking not for execstack and execmem.
Those have got to be on the binaries and since every X App seems to
generate it, turning off the checking is the best course of action.
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From jsherril at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 21:35:43 2008
From: jsherril at redhat.com (Justin Sherrill)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:35:43 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap3 is a step backwards?
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4906342F.6010609@redhat.com>

Blake St. Claire wrote:
> I haven't seen anyone else mention it.
>
> --overlay-size-mb 512 --swap-size-mb 384 (from
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO) is too big
> for the 4G SD. I used 384 and 256.
>
> First time power up I think the kernel had an oops while booting.
>
> Second time got as far as the login and clicked the Login button.
> After 30 seconds of nothing happening I pressed Ctrl-Alt-F2 and
> switched to text-mode getty on tty2 before the box wedged.
>
> Third time got past the login (now with  the wrong DPI) and got as far
> as the Appearances Preferences to try to reset the DPI, and also
> started a terminal before the box wedged.
>
> What do they say about doing the same thing over and over and
> expecting different results?
>
> Anyone have any better luck with Snap3?
>
> /Blake
>
>   
Actually for me Snap3 is a huge improvement for me.  Not getting any
oops messages any more and it's running much speedier.

-Justin



From tyf at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 22:03:12 2008
From: tyf at redhat.com (Ty)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:03:12 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap3 is a step backwards?
In-Reply-To: <4906342F.6010609@redhat.com>
References: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4906342F.6010609@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1225144992.3814.25.camel@tao>

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:35 -0400, Justin Sherrill wrote:
> > Anyone have any better luck with Snap3?
> >
> > /Blake
> >
> >   
> Actually for me Snap3 is a huge improvement for me.  Not getting any
> oops messages any more and it's running much speedier.

snap3 is better for me also, its much faster, except the machine freezes
up entirely sometimes when im installing new software. 

Ty 

> 
> -Justin
-- 
????? ??????? (know thyself) 
????? ???? (nothing in excess) 
? 



From alsadi at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 22:09:46 2008
From: alsadi at gmail.com (Muayyad AlSadi)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:09:46 +0300
Subject: XO: Snap3 is a step backwards?
In-Reply-To: <1225144992.3814.25.camel@tao>
References: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4906342F.6010609@redhat.com> <1225144992.3814.25.camel@tao>
Message-ID: <385866f0810271509v3b4e6910m9fd4154313dfb2e5@mail.gmail.com>

> snap3 is better for me also, its much faster, except the machine freezes
> up entirely sometimes when im installing new software.

when the persistent layer is full this happen
there is no way I know to detects this

for example I put a usual livecd on a usual usb key with 300MB persistent layer
the free space is 4GB which is not true



From poelstra at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 22:51:47 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:51:47 -0700
Subject: Reminder: Bug Triage Meeting Tomorrow (Tuesday) @ 14:00 UTC
Message-ID: <49064603.9090209@redhat.com>

Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday @ 14:00 UTC/10 AM EDT

We will be reviewing the follow-up actions from last week here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-21

And talking about how to make better progress on all the rawhide bugs in 
NEW:
http://tinyurl.com/6llac8

See you there!

John



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Mon Oct 27 23:13:22 2008
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:13:22 +0900
Subject: adduser doesn't quite get it
In-Reply-To: <20081027174429.GA30986@mail.harddata.com>
References: <4905D081.8030606@omen.com>	<1225126362.2157.8.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081027174429.GA30986@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <49064B12.4030101@herakles.homelinux.org>

Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:52:42AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 07:30 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
>>> A user added with the adduser command doesn't seem to have as many
>>> privileges as one added from the GUI.  The obvious one is the ability to
>>> use the sound system.  That was the problem with xmms.
>> Which command line tool did you use to create the user?  IIRC one of
>> them (luseradd) uses libuser as the backend, which can set the selinux
>> permissions correctly where as useradd does not.
> 

There's also the point that adduser does what you tell it, and that's 
not to add the user to lots of groups unless rootuser specifies 
otherwise, while another tool might add users to groups that fit well 
the the distro's philosophy. In the former case, sound might not while 
in the latter it works well.

> Before anybody will ask - adduser and useradd this is the same
> thing.

It is in RedHattish systems, but not so in others.

-- 

Cheers
John

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From bressers at redhat.com  Mon Oct 27 23:44:58 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:44:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO: Snap3 is a step backwards?
In-Reply-To: <385866f0810271509v3b4e6910m9fd4154313dfb2e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1562774103.4000371225151097959.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>


----- "Muayyad AlSadi" <alsadi at gmail.com> wrote:

> > snap3 is better for me also, its much faster, except the machine
> freezes
> > up entirely sometimes when im installing new software.
> 
> when the persistent layer is full this happen
> there is no way I know to detects this
> 
> for example I put a usual livecd on a usual usb key with 300MB
> persistent layer
> the free space is 4GB which is not true
> 

So this makes me wonder ...

Why as part of the live cd creation process, don't we use resizee2fs to shrink
the image down to used space (2.1G) + overlay size?  We could then use the
extra space for /home and swap.  Right now mounting the NAND for /home is
horrible as it takes a very long time, so getting rid of that would be a huge
bonus (plus it would move all the Fedora bits to the SD card, which would be
better IMHO).

-- 
    JB



From jmorris at beau.org  Mon Oct 27 23:55:38 2008
From: jmorris at beau.org (John Morris)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:55:38 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz: A SELinux rant
In-Reply-To: <d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1225151737.3323.85.camel@mjolnir>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 16:29, David Nalley wrote:

> I wish I could remember who to attribute this to, but someone on
> -devel suggested that the same arguments occurred when firewalls were
> really starting to become commonplace - a lack of knowledge of how to
> manipulate and handle them caused repeated calls for their removal.
> Mandatory Access Control isn't going away, and is really one of the
> shining examples of Fedora leading the way with something and making
> it far easier to use than it was.

Wish I could be as optimistic but I'm not.  SELinux has been trying to
get to a truly useful state since FC2 and still causes more problems
than it solves for too many end users.  Are we expected to believe that
it is about to finally 'just work?'

Yes it is great for a locked down server, and it's something any sane
admin should try to use where a server is exposed to the wild Internet. 
On a very basic desktop that doesn't change much or run many different
applications it doesn't do much harm... but also doesn't do much good
either.  On a more power user desktop it will almost always blow enough
stuff up to end up getting disabled in frustration.

Compare and contrast to your example of enabling the firewall by
default.  That caused problems because it was done before good graphical
tools to control the thing were ready so end users had problems.  But
any admin worthy of the name could deal with iptables wuth a manpage, vi
(or emacs) and perhaps some Googling.  The number of people who can
write SELinux policy is still in the hundreds (at most) after five plus
years of Red Hat pushing the technology as hard as it can.

And this new idea of using log scraping tools to automatically generate
policy is simply an admission of that lack of skilled humans.  Anybody
who thinks automatically generated policy is going to produce a secure
system is delusional.  If enough humans who deeply understand SELinux
existed to be able to double check these auto generated policies they
could probably have written the darned things themselves.

Finally, the biggest objection is that it acts like alien technology
bolted onto UNIX's security model as a totally different and parallel
system.  And like alien tech humans can't understand it, they are
expected to treat it as a big black box and to just trust that it works
and doesn't hose them at unexpected times.  I can teach somebody the
UNIX permission model in less than an hour.  Learning the admin arcana
of sticky bits, SUID, noexec mounts and such takes a few more hours.  I
read the O'Reilly book on SELinux and still don't think I understand it
enough to write a sound policy.  It is hard to trust things that one
can't understand, especially a security system that I'm supposed to
somehow administer.

-- 
John M.      http://www.beau.org/~jmorris     This post is 100% M$Free!
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From jpazdziora at redhat.com  Tue Oct 28 00:12:44 2008
From: jpazdziora at redhat.com (Jan Pazdziora)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:12:44 +0100
Subject: XO: SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second
In-Reply-To: <20081027113749.GA2784@corona.adelton.com>
References: <20081026195452.GA5354@corona.adelton.com>
	<1225058006.23788.18.camel@aglarond.local>
	<20081027113749.GA2784@corona.adelton.com>
Message-ID: <20081028001244.GA29141@corona.adelton.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:37:49PM +0100, Jan Pazdziora wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 05:53:26PM -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 20:54 +0100, Jan Pazdziora wrote:
> > > Upon booting the XO, I get
> > > 
> > > 	Type the Esc key to interrupt automatic startup
> > > 	SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second
> > 
> > What version of the firmware do you have on the XO?  It should say on
> > bootup.  If it's not Q2E18, you'll want to upgrade
> 
> I've checked that I have Q2E18.

I've run badblocks on the SD card and it seems to be completely fine.

When I type

	boot

Fedora starts booting, there seem to be some error messages under
the bar at the bottom of the screen (they are overwritten quite fast
but I can take a picture if it seems important) and when the bar at
the bottom of the screen is all white, the screen clears and I get

	--------------------------------------
	WARNING: Cannot find root file system!
	--------------------------------------

	Create symlink /dev/root and then exit this shell to continue
	the boot sequence.

	bash: no job control in this shell
	bash-3.2#

I'm affraid I'm facing some strange nondeterministic problem,
provided other people seem to be able to boot the Snap3 just
fine, and for me it seems to give error message but then starts
to boot, and when part of the boot process finishes, it breaks
again.

-- 
Jan Pazdziora | adelton at #satellite*, #brno
Satellite Engineering, Red Hat



From dsavage at peaknet.net  Tue Oct 28 03:25:48 2008
From: dsavage at peaknet.net (Robert G. (Doc) Savage)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:25:48 -0500
Subject: F10-beta on Lenovo W700 - Success
In-Reply-To: <1225138364.3523.32.camel@metroid.rdu.redhat.com>
References: <1225081461.6874.170.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
	<1225083945.3077.23.camel@zebes.localdomain>
	<1225084475.6874.177.camel@lion.protogeek.org>
	<1225138364.3523.32.camel@metroid.rdu.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1225164348.6874.191.camel@lion.protogeek.org>


On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 16:12 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 00:14 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 01:05 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:24 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > > > Has anyone else tried to install F10-beta/x86_64 on Lenovo's new W700
> > > > super-laptop? After anaconda finishes checking package selections for
> > > > dependencies, it throws an unhandled exception.
> > > 
> > > Okay, but what was the exception/traceback? Without knowing that, it's
> > > nearly impossible to guess what happened here.
> > > 
> > > The only thing I can suggest without that info is that you try again
> > > with the most recent snapshot build, from
> > > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ or
> > > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/
> > 
> > That's the problem. Since no packages get installed, the system can't
> > send the traceback log to bugzilla. (Bit of a chicken/egg situation.)
> > I've attached a manual transcription of perhaps the first 10%. It'll
> > take me several days to finish the rest.
> 
> The most important part is the traceback - this top bit:
> 
> anaconda 11.4.1.40 exception report
> Traceback (most recent call first):
>   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/network.py", line 529, in write
>     if dev.tet('GATEWAY'):
>   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py", line 1469 in doPreInstall
>     anaconda.id.network.write(andaconda.rootPath)
>   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/backend.py", line 258, in doPreInstall
>     anaconda.backend.doPreInstall(anaconda)
>   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 204, in moveStep
>     rc = stepFunc(self.anaconda)
>   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 127, in gotoNext
>     self.moveStep()
>   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1349, in nextClicked
>     self.anaconda.dispatch.gotoNext()
>   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/ow/progress_gui.py", line 79, in
> renderCallback
>     self.intf.icw.nextClicked()
>   File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1370, in handleRenderCallback
>     self.currentWindow.renderCallback()
> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'dev' referenced before assignment
> 
> Don't worry about recopying the rest unless bits of it are specifically
> needed. I'd suggest filing a bug report with the traceback and your
> lspci output. 
> 
> Keep in mind that the first thing that will be asked is: "Have you tried
> using a more recent snapshot?" So you might want to try that first, if
> possible.

Will,

Last night I downloaded the Snap 3 DVD ISO, and tonight I installed it
successfully. It's beta and imperfect, but Snap 3 brings F10 to the new
W700. Thanks for pointing me toward the snapshot spins.

--Doc



From jmorris at beau.org  Tue Oct 28 04:27:09 2008
From: jmorris at beau.org (John Morris)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:27:09 -0500
Subject: Snap Releases
In-Reply-To: <f30915689ca4c35a2b490bcdc6fb845b@fcp.surfsite.org>
References: <f30915689ca4c35a2b490bcdc6fb845b@fcp.surfsite.org>
Message-ID: <1225168029.30782.3.camel@mjolnir>

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 15:47, rjames wrote:

> If you guys are going to be using these in the future for live cd's, you need to make sure you aren't overburning these things because a hell of a lot of cd/dvd burners *DON'T* support this, and the snap 3 386 live cd iso are overburned [703 megs instead of the standard 650/702 megs].
> 
> None of my Liteon dvd burners support overburning and I don't think the older sony cdwr drive I have in a older computer supports it either.
> 
> If you are going to be overburning these things, at least say so, so people won't waste their time downloading something that's going to be unusable on their machines.

Or just keep a couple of DVD-RW around for burning one off test installs
onto and stop piling up so many discs that aren't good for much a month
later.  Better still, if you have a super-multi drives on your test
machines is to use DVD-RAM.

-- 
John M.      http://www.beau.org/~jmorris     This post is 100% M$Free!
Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r




From jamundso at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 05:50:31 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:50:31 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz: A SELinux rant
In-Reply-To: <1225151737.3323.85.camel@mjolnir>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225151737.3323.85.camel@mjolnir>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810272250s30f7cc26v177d9261f7f3514e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:55 PM, John Morris <jmorris at beau.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 16:29, David Nalley wrote:
>> I wish I could remember who to attribute this to, but someone on
>> -devel suggested that the same arguments occurred when firewalls were
>> really starting to become commonplace - a lack of knowledge of how to
>> manipulate and handle them caused repeated calls for their removal.
>> Mandatory Access Control isn't going away, and is really one of the
>> shining examples of Fedora leading the way with something and making
>> it far easier to use than it was.
>
> Wish I could be as optimistic but I'm not.  SELinux has been trying to
> get to a truly useful state since FC2 and still causes more problems
> than it solves for too many end users.  Are we expected to believe that
> it is about to finally 'just work?'

After years of will power to hold myself back from it, I caved in and
gave an enforcing SElinux system a chance ... and everyone knows where
that got me. [if you don't:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468645]

> Yes it is great for a locked down server, and it's something any sane
> admin should try to use where a server is exposed to the wild Internet.
> On a very basic desktop that doesn't change much or run many different
> applications it doesn't do much harm... but also doesn't do much good
> either.  On a more power user desktop it will almost always blow enough
> stuff up to end up getting disabled in frustration.

It did harm on my "basic" desktop. And the response so far has been
"your user database is screwed up." Not "hmm, that's odd, how can we
fix it?", not even a "strange, how did that happen?". Yep, like I
purposefully sabotaged my SElinux environment...
Let me emphasize here that I see it's potential as a sysadmin.
However, the current mindset is to force it upon the user, and that,
simply, is narrow-minded.

> Compare and contrast to your example of enabling the firewall by
> default.  That caused problems because it was done before good graphical
> tools to control the thing were ready so end users had problems.  But
> any admin worthy of the name could deal with iptables wuth a manpage, vi
> (or emacs) and perhaps some Googling.  The number of people who can
> write SELinux policy is still in the hundreds (at most) after five plus
> years of Red Hat pushing the technology as hard as it can.

This is one of the points I was intending to make in my posts of the
past few days. Inside, I *felt* the state of selinux is dysfunctional
and wrong, but the *technical* part of me wanted to believe what I was
told. As usual, my technical experience confirmed what my instincts
told me - SElinux is not production quality. [And for those of you
considering it, don't bother playing the "rawhide" card.]

> And this new idea of using log scraping tools to automatically generate
> policy is simply an admission of that lack of skilled humans.  Anybody
> who thinks automatically generated policy is going to produce a secure
> system is delusional.  If enough humans who deeply understand SELinux
> existed to be able to double check these auto generated policies they
> could probably have written the darned things themselves.

You've really hit the nail on the head there. I've said it before, and
I'll say it again as long as necessary, software quality currently
sucks. Where did todays developers learn that it's OK to pass burdens
off to the end user? Oh, that's right, it's the open source way -
"someone else will test, fix, document, etc."
"patches greatly accepted" is another way of saying, "I don't care,
you do the work."

> Finally, the biggest objection is that it acts like alien technology
> bolted onto UNIX's security model as a totally different and parallel
> system.  And like alien tech humans can't understand it, they are
> expected to treat it as a big black box and to just trust that it works
> and doesn't hose them at unexpected times.  I can teach somebody the
> UNIX permission model in less than an hour.  Learning the admin arcana
> of sticky bits, SUID, noexec mounts and such takes a few more hours.  I
> read the O'Reilly book on SELinux and still don't think I understand it
> enough to write a sound policy.  It is hard to trust things that one
> can't understand, especially a security system that I'm supposed to
> somehow administer.

Amen.
Thanks for this. It drew me back from the darkness. That means
SELINUX=disabled and a relabel/reboot from now on, as I see from
installing Snap 3 today that "enforcing" is shoved down our throats.
But, I'm OK with that. I'm still inclined to "test it out" on *some*
systems - that's why I'm here. But I won't be fooled again.
Thank you also for "Whitebox" - It's still on a couple of my key
production systems (for now). It was my first exposure to what "open
source" and "community" really meant when combined together.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Tue Oct 28 10:02:58 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:02:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081028 changes
Message-ID: <20081028100258.F337A1F824B@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Tue Oct 28 06:01:09 UTC 2008

New package cfdg
        Context Free Design Grammar
New package cryptopp
        Public domain C++ class library of cryptographic schemes
New package hamcrest
        Hamcrest matcher object framework
New package rubygem-main
        A class factory and dsl for generating command line programs real quick
New package rubygem-markaby
        Markup as Ruby, write HTML in your native Ruby tongue
New package rubygem-pervasives
        Access to pristine object state
New package rubygem-picnic
        Easier distribution of Camping-based applications
New package rubygem-reststop
        Convenient RESTfulness for all your Camping controller needs
New package sl
        Joke command for when you type 'sl' instead of 'ls'
New package smokeping
        Latency Logging and Graphing System
New package xvarstar
        XVarStar is an astronomical program used for searching GCVS
Removed package pguiman
Removed package ume-launcher
Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4229.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> - 1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4229
- More reliable mobile broadband card initialization
- Handle mobile broadband PINs correctly when PPP passwords are also used
- Additional PolicyKit integration for editing system connections
- Close the applet menu if a keyring password is needed (rh #353451)


NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.0-16.svn4229.fc10
--------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 1:0.7.0-16.svn4229
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager


NetworkManager-pptp-0.7.0-0.11.svn4229.fc10
-------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 1:0.7.0-11.svn4229
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager
- Ensure that certain PPP options are always overriden


NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.0-0.11.svn4229.fc10
-------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4229
- Rebuild for updated NetworkManager


PackageKit-0.3.9-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.9-1
- New upstream version
- Many new and updated translations.
- Lots of bugfixes (#468486, #466006, #468602), no new features.


R-Biobase-2.2.0-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 2.2.0-1
- Update to version 2.2.0 for R >= 2.8.0


R-DynDoc-1.20.0-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 1.20.0-1
- Update to version 1.20.0 for R >= 2.8.0


R-affyio-1.10.0-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 1.10.0-1
- Update to version 1.10.0 for R >= 2.8.0


R-maanova-1.12.0-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Pingou <pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr> 1.12.0-1
- Update to 1.12.0 for R >= 2.8.0


R-multtest-1.22.0-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 1.22.0-1
- New version 1.22.0 for R >= 2.8.0

* Wed Jun 25 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 1.20.0-3
- change the url


R-qvalue-1.16.0-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 1.16.0-1
- Update to version 1.16.0

* Wed Jun 25 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 1.14.0-3
- Change the url


R-tkWidgets-1.20.0-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 1.20.0-1
- Update to 1.20.0 for R >= 2.8.0

* Wed Jun 25 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 1.18.0-2
- Change urls


R-widgetTools-1.18.0-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 pingou <pingoufc4-at-yahoo.fr> 1.18.0-1
- Update to version 1.18.0 for R >= 2.8.0


Terminal-0.2.8.3-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.8.3-1
- Update to 0.2.8.3
- BuildRequire intltool
- Fix rpm group


amsn-0.97.2-1.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Sander Hoentjen <sander at hoentjen.eu> - 0.97.2-1
- Update to latest release


anaconda-11.4.1.52-1
--------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.52-1
- Let DNS lookups work from %post scripts (#468132) (dcantrell)
- Do not use /.tmp for temporary files (#468720) (dcantrell)
- Don't treat encrypted PVs as available if we don't have the key. (#465240)
  (dlehman)
- Do all new device passphrase prompting from partitioningComplete. (dlehman)
- Fix the obviously stupid typo. (clumens)
- There's a new version of the firewall command for F10 (#467753). (clumens)
- Another fix for printing package summaries in text mode (#468283).
  (clumens)
- Fix traceback in network.bringUp() (#468651) (dcantrell)
- lvresize requires a --force arg now (#468478) (katzj)
- Include return code on resize failure error message (#468479) (katzj)


aqsis-1.4.1-4.fc10
------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.4.1-4
- Add Requires(post/preun): xdg-utils


ardour-2.6.1-1.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Anthony Green <green at redhat.com> 2.6.1-1
- New upstream release 2.6.1.


audit-1.7.8-5.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 1.7.8-5
- Fix ausearch/report recent and now time keyword lookups (#468668)


banshee-1.2.1-3.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.2.1-3
- bump for new gnome-sharp


beagle-0.3.8-9.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.3.8-9
- rebuild against new gnome-sharp


blam-1.8.5-3.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.8.5-3
- rebuild against new gnome-sharp


bluez-4.17-2.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 4.17-2
- Own /var/lib/bluetooth (#468717)


cairo-dock-1.6.3-0.3.rc1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 1.6.3-0.3.rc1
- 1.6.3 rc1


catfish-0.3.2-1.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> 0.3.2-1
- 0.3.2


cdcollect-0.6.0-6.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 0.6.0-6
- rebuild for new gnome-sharp


cjet-0.8.9-7.fc10
-----------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.8.9-7
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


compiz-0.7.6-17.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 0.7.6-17
- Update some translations for the desktop-effects capplet


desktop-backgrounds-9.0.0-4
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 9.0.0-4
- Make compat subpackage depend on solar backgrounds
  (bug 468749)


eclipse-pydev-1.3.24-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Alexander Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> 1:1.3.24-1
- 1.3.24


exo-0.3.4-3.fc10
----------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.4-3
- Add two Debian patches to fix broken regex and gcc_hardening
- Fix rpm group
- Update gtk-update-icon-cache scriptlets
- Configure with --disable-static


f-spot-0.4.4-6.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.4.4-6
- rebuild against new gnome-sharp


festival-1.96-6.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 1.96-6
- interoperate with other apps by using pacat for audio output
  (bug 467531)


fig2sxd-0.20-1.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 0.20-1
- bump to latest version


firstboot-1.102-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> 1.102-1
- Be smarter about finding a graphics theme to use.


frysk-0.4-2.fc10
----------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Andrew Cagney <andrew.cagney at gmail.com> -  0.4-2
- drop EPL from licence list; cdtparser deleted
- re-enable SMP make
- disable -Werror flag to gcj

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Andrew Cagney <andrew.cagney at gmail.com> -  0.4-1
- add sparc and arm to ExcludeArch.


gbrainy-1.00-2.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 1.00-2
- rebuild for new gnome-sharp


generic-logos-10.0.0-3.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> - 10.0.0-3
- Solar Comet generic splash logo redesign


gftp-2.0.18-4.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2:2.0.18-4
- fix bookmarks (bz 463006)


glib2-2.18.2-3.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> - 2.18.2-3
- Use asm implementation for atomic ops on x86


gnome-build-2.24.1-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 2.24.1-1
- Version bump to 2.24.1.
- Configure script problems fixed by upstream. Closes GNOME Bugzilla bug


gnome-desktop-2.24.1-3.fc10
---------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-3
- Don't leak memory when crossfading if nautilus is disabled
  (bug 468339)


gnome-desktop-sharp-2.24.0-3.fc10
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-3
- and BR: libgnomeprintui22-devel

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-2
- add gnome-sharp-devel as BuildRequires

* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Dan Winship <dwinship at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-1
- Update to 2.24.0


gnome-do-0.6.1.0-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.6.1.0-2
- rebuild against new gnome-sharp


gnome-lirc-properties-0.3.1-1.fc10
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.3.1-1
- Update to 0.3.1

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.3.0-5
- Fix chkconfig not being called to auto-start lirc in some cases

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.3.0-4
- Fix USB hiddev devices causing backtraces

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.3.0-3
- Don't detect power buttons


gnome-packagekit-0.3.9-4.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.9-4
- Barr. Actually apply the patch. Sleep time.

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.9-3
- Fix the size request of gpk-application to fix rh#467987

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.9-2
- Split out the service pack creator and the backend status programs
  into a gnome-packagekit-extra package as it's not suitable for the
  default desktop.

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.9-1
- New upstream version
- Many new and updated translations.
- Lots of bugfixes (#467746, #467582)


gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-23.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.19.1-23
- Give us --force-tag back.

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.19.1-22
- Fix build break with libgdl-2.24.0 (GNOME bug #553911).
- Bump libgdl_version to 2.24.0.

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes at redhat.com> - 2.19.1-21
- Provide Python bindings for libgdl on ppc64 (RH bug #468693).


gnome-sharp-2.24.0-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 16 18:00:00 2008 Dan Winship <dwinship at redhat.com> - 2.24.0-1
- Update to 2.24.0


gnome-subtitles-0.8-6.fc10
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.8-6
- don't use smp_mflags

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.8-5
- rebuild against new gnome-sharp


gssdp-0.6.3-1.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.6.3-1
- New upstream version


gtk-sharp-1.0.10-20.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.0.10-20
- fix gtkhtml check for rawhide
- BR: libgnomeprintui22-devel

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.0.10-19
- add missing BR: gnome-desktop-sharp

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.0.10-18
- rebuild for new gnome-sharp

* Fri Jul 25 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.0.10-17
- fix license tag

* Wed May  7 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 1.0.10-16
- Removed ppc build for now

* Wed May  7 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 1.0.10-15
- added BR gnome-sharp-devel and vte-devel

* Wed May  7 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 1.0.10-14
- doh! forgot excludearch ppc64

* Tue May  6 18:00:00 2008 Paul F. Johnson <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk> 1.0.10-13
- rebuild
- removed debug package


gtk-xfce-engine-2.4.3-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 2.4.3-1
- Update to 2.4.3
- Require filesystem package instead of owning %{_datadir}/themes
- Don't own %{_libdir}/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/


gtksourceview-sharp-2.0.12-6.fc10
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2.0-0.12-6
- rebuild for new gnome-sharp


gupnp-0.12.3-1.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> 0.12.3-1
- New upstream release


gurlchecker-0.10.1-10.fc10
--------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 0.10.1-10
- rebuild for clamav 0.94


hal-0.5.12-8.20081027git.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-8.20081027git
- Update to git snapshot 20081027git to fix #468692


iml-1.0.2-4.fc10
----------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Conrad Meyer <konrad at tylerc.org> - 1.0.2-4
- Oops, don't depend on the main package which no longer exists in -devel.


imsettings-0.105.1-2.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Akira TAGOH <tagoh at redhat.com> - 0.105.1-2
- imsettings-fix-unpredictable-session-order.patch: Run imsettings-applet with
  --disable-xsettings for GNOME/XFCE. (#466206)


jd-2.0.3-0.1.svn2423_trunk.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- rev 2423


junit4-4.5-3.1.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:4.5-3.1
- build for Fedora

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:4.5-3
- reorder %files list

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:4.5-2
- fix GCJ support
- fix javadoc symlink

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:4.5-1
- 4.5


kde-settings-4.1-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 4.1-2
- Fedoraproject homepages for Konqueror


kernel-2.6.27.4-58.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- fix rs4xx bus mastering.

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com>
- add support for wait rendering API

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com>
- Make olpc-battery built in so that its usable (#467759)

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Eric Sandeen <sandeen at redhat.com>
- Delay capable() checks in ext4 until necessary. (#467216)

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- ACPI: Ignore the RESET_REG_SUP bit when using ACPI reset mechanism. (461228)

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-52
- drm-modesetting-radeon.patch - fix some kms issues + add better CS scheme


klamav-0.44-3.fc10
------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.44-3
- rebuild for clamav 0.94
- add klamav-clamav094.patch from Gentoo


koffice-1.6.3-17.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1:1.6.3-17
- move libkiviocommon to -kivio (avoids libpython/multilib issues)


lat-1.2.3-4.fc10
----------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 1.2.3-4
- rebuild for new gnome-sharp


lazarus-0.9.26-1.fc10
---------------------
* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Joost van der Sluis <joost at cnoc.nl> 0.9.26-1
- Updated to version 0.9.26
- Removed scripts which are vulnerable to symlink-attacks (bug 460642)
- Build bigide instead of the standard ide
- Build ideintf and the registration for gtk2
- Install the manfiles 
- Install the mime-types
- Install the global .xml configuration files


lcms-1.17-6.fc10
----------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 kwizart < kwizart at gmail.com > - 1.17-6
- Add lcms-fix_s390_lcms_h.patch - Fix #468245


libasyncns-0.7-1.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter at redhat.com> 0.7-1
- New release


libcaca-0.99-0.5.beta16.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Saou <http://freshrpms.net/> 0.99-0.5.beta16
- Update to 0.99beta16.
- Update Source URL.


libgda-3.1.2-6.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Denis Leroy <denis at poolshark.org> - 1:3.1.2-6
- Added patch to fix providers path on x86_64 (#468510)


libgdl-2.24.0-2.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 2.24.0-2
- Updated Source0 URL.


libical-0.40-1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 0.40-1
- Update to 0.40.
- Add patch from upstream to fix crash in icalvalue.c.
- Update makefile patch, remove the test part (already applied).
- Package libical.pc, add Requires: pkgconfig to -devel.


libtirpc-0.1.9-6.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Steve Dickson  <steved at redhat.com> 0.1.8-6
- Fix bad assumption taddr2uaddr processing that 
  caused a segfault (bz468014)


libv4l-0.5.3-1.fc10
-------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl> 0.5.3-1
- New upstream release 0.5.3


libxfce4mcs-4.4.3-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3
- Fix rpm group of base package


libxfce4util-4.4.3-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3


libxfcegui4-4.4.3-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3


linuxwacom-0.8.0.3-4.fc10
-------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at redhat.com> 0.8.0.3-4
- 10-linuxwacom.fdi: specify "stylus" as default type. (#465349)


mail-notification-5.4-4.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dmitry Butskoy <Dmitry at Butskoy.name> - 5.4-4
- fix plugin permissions (#468524)


mkinitrd-6.0.68-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 6.0.68-1
- Add buslogic and mptbase to "stabilized" module list.
- load crc32c module for iscsistart (hansg)
  Resolves: rhbz#467379
- Don't run findstoragedriverinsys twice for the same device (hansg)
  Resolves: rhbz#467390
- Use iscsi session info for /, not the first one in "iscsiadm -m session"
  output (hasng)
  Resolves: rhbz#245645


mlocate-0.21.1-1
----------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Miloslav Trma?? <mitr at redhat.com> - 0.21.1-1
- Update to mlocate-0.21
  Resolves: #461208


mono-tools-2.0-8.fc10
---------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2.0-8
- rebuild for new gnome-sharp


mousepad-0.2.14-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 0.2.14-1
- Update to 0.2.14
- BuildRequire intltool
- Drop category X-Fedora from desktop file


nautilus-2.24.1-3.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Bzatek <tbzatek at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-3
- Updated XDS support in tree view patch (sync with gnomebz #171655)


nautilus-sound-converter-0.7.0-1.fc10
-------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org> - 0.7.0-1
- Update to 0.7.0.


netlabel_tools-0.18-1.fc10
--------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Peter Vrabec <pvrabec at redhat.com> - 0.18-1
- upgrade (#439833)


netpbm-10.35.54-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Jindrich Novy <jnovy at rehdat.com> 10.35.54-1
- update to 10.35.54
- adds better randomization for ppmforge, pgmnoise, pgmcrater
- fixes array bounds violation in pnm_createBlackTuple() with PBM, PGM
- fixes crash in pnmtoddif with any PGM input


ocaml-csv-1.1.7-1.fc10
----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Richard W.M. Jones <rjones at redhat.com> - 1.1.7-1
- New upstream version 1.1.7.


ochusha-0.5.99.67.1-0.4.cvs20081026T0316.fc10
---------------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 0.5.99.67.1-0.4.cvs20081023T0304
- Install ochusha-prefs-gtkrc to set default font
- ... and use wrapper script

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- Use latest CVS

* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 0.5.99.67.1-0.2.cvs20081020_1
- Upstream development restarted, try latest
- Use system-wide oniguruma
- Drop 2 patches (upstreamed)
- Also try to disable disable-lock-check.patch for trial
- Spec file clean up
- Move all libraries to %_libdir/%name, no need to make them system-wide,
  set rpath


pbm2l7k-990321-5.fc10
---------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 990321-5
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


perl-Image-ExifTool-7.51-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 7.51-1
- update to 7.51


perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto-6.14-1.fc10
------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 6.14-1
- update to 6.14
- switch to inline req filtering


perl-Module-Versions-Report-1.06-1.fc10
---------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu> 1.06-1
- update to 1.06


picviz-0.4-1.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tomas Heinrich <theinric at redhat.com> 0.4-1
- update to new upstream version


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.5.fc10
----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.5
- Make "Solar" lock icon the same as the "Spinfinity" one.

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.4
- Make plymouth-libs own /usr/lib/plymouth (bug 458071)

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.3
- Default to "Solar" instead of "Spinfinity"

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.2
- Don't set plymouth default plugin to text in %post

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.1
- Add Charlie patch to dither in lower color modes (bug 468276)


policycoreutils-2.0.57-6.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-6
- Add usermode-gtk requires


pykickstart-1.46-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Chris Lumens <clumens at redhat.com> - 1.46-1
- Add support for firewall --service (#467005).


python-virtinst-0.400.0-4.fc10
------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Cole Robinson <crobinso at redhat.com> - 0.400.0-4.fc10
- Updated translations (bz 467810)
- Specific os entry for XP 64 (bz 467851)
- Disk pool 'dos' format fix


rhpl-0.218-1
------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> - 0.218-1
- Updated translations
- Write out all aspects of the keyboard to /etc/sysconfig/keyboard for ajax


rhythmbox-0.11.6-15.6002.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.11.6-15.r6002
- Update to rev 6002


rubygem-hoe-1.8.2-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Darryl Pierce <dpierce at redhat.com> - 1.8.2-1
- Release 1.8.2 of Hoe.


rubygem-rake-0.8.3-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 David Lutterkort <lutter at redhat.com> - 0.8.3-1
- Cleanup multiply listed files
- Set permissions in doc/, lib/ and test/ to 644


rubygem-zoom-0.4.1-4.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Mamoru Tasaka <mtasaka at ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> - 0.4.1-4
- Better way to set CFLAGS and create debuginfo rpm correctly


solar-kde-theme-0.1.10-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 0.1.9-2
- install screenshot in correct place

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 0.1.9-1
- fix KDM/Wallpaper screenshot issue in KDM theme

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Than Ngo <than at redhat.com> 0.1.10-1
- fix layout issue


specspo-16-1
------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Stepan Kasal <skasal at redhat.com> - 16-1
- fix typo s/fromating/formatting/
- restore en_GB.po, which was replaced by es.po by mistake


subversion-1.5.4-3
------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Joe Orton <jorton at redhat.com> 1.5.4-3
- update to 1.5.4


system-config-boot-0.2.21-3.fc10
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.2.21-3
- add Requires: usermode-gtk


system-config-date-1.9.32-2.fc10
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.9.32-2
- add Requires: usermode-gtk


system-config-firewall-1.2.12-2.fc10
------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 1.2.12-2
- add Requires: usermode-gtk


system-config-lvm-1.1.4-3.1.fc10
--------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> 1.1.4-3.1
- Require usermode-gtk


system-config-network-1.5.92-3.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 
- don't try to write out Description if vendor is NULL (bz 468355)
  (thanks to Kazunori Asayama)

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Matthias Clasen  <mclasen at redhat.com> 
- Require usermode-gtk


system-config-users-1.2.80-2.fc10
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.2.80-2
- add Requires: usermode-gtk


tomboy-0.12.0-5.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.12.0-5
- add BR: gnome-desktop-sharp-devel

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.12.0-4
- rebuild for new gnome-sharp

* Thu Oct 23 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 0.12.0-3
- Apply upstream patch to fix crasher when gnome-panel-devel
  isn't installed.


virt-manager-0.6.0-3.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Cole Robinson <crobinso at redhat.com> - 0.6.0-3.fc10
- Add dbus-x11 to Requires (bug 467886)
- Fedora translation updates (bug 467808)
- Don't add multiple sound devices if install fails
- Only popup volume path copy option on right click
- Fix a variable typo


weechat-0.2.6-5.fc10
--------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt?? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.2.6-5
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch.


wqy-zenhei-fonts-0.8.34-0.cvs20081027.fc10
------------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Qianqian Fang <fangqq at gmail.com> 0.8.34-0.cvs20081027
- upstream new version prelease


xenner-0.46-3.fc10
------------------

xfce-mcs-manager-4.4.3-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3
- BuildRequire intltool


xfce-utils-4.4.3-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3
- Prefer gnome-screensaver over xscreensaver if installed
- Make xflock4 check for running screensaver instead of installed ones
- Rework pulseaudio patch
- Configure with --disable-static
- Run gtk-update-icon-cache in %post and %postun


xfce4-appfinder-4.4.3-1.fc10
----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3
- Update gtk-update-icon-cache scriptlets


xfce4-icon-theme-4.4.3-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3
- BuildRequire intltool


xfce4-panel-4.4.3-1.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3
- Remove mailwatch-plugin from default panel config again
- BuildRequire intltool
- Update gtk-update-icon-cache scriptlets
- Fix BuildRoot tag


xfprint-4.4.3-1.fc10
--------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3
- BuildRequire intltool
- Update gtk-update-icon-cache scriptlets
- Configure with --disable-static


xfwm4-4.4.3-1.fc10
------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3
- Update gtk-update-icon-cache scriptlets


xfwm4-themes-4.4.3-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christoph Wickert <cwickert at fedoraproject.org> - 4.4.3-1
- Update to 4.4.3
- Require filesystem package instead of owning %{_datadir}/themes


xine-lib-1.1.15-3.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 1.1.15-3
- rebuild for new libcaca


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-34.fc10
------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-34
- remove some left over debug

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-33
- add support for wait for rendering

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-32
- move to CS2 mechanism - using chunks to avoid multiple relocations
- add kernel requires about 2.6.27.4-52 for new CS mechanism


xorg-x11-server-1.5.2-10.fc10
-----------------------------

xulrunner-1.9.0.2-5.fc10
------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Christopher Aillon <caillon at redhat.com> 1.9.0.2-5
- Password manager fixes from upstream


yum-3.2.20-2.fc10
-----------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.20-1
- 3.2.20

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 James Antill <james at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.20-2
- Fix listTransaction for skipped packages.


Summary:
Added Packages: 11
Removed Packages: 2
Modified Packages: 130
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgbf-widgets-1.so.1
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgbf-1.so.1
	hamcrest-demo-1.1-5.1.fc10.i386 requires testng
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	system-config-audit-0.4.8-9.fc10.i386 requires audit-libs = 0:1.7.8-5



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgbf-widgets-1.so.1
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.i386 requires libgbf-1.so.1
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.x86_64 requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0()(64bit)
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	hamcrest-demo-1.1-5.1.fc10.x86_64 requires testng
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	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	system-config-audit-0.4.8-9.fc10.x86_64 requires audit-libs = 0:1.7.8-5



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----------------------------------------------------------
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc requires libgdl-gnome-1.so.0
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc requires libgbf-widgets-1.so.1
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc requires libgbf-1.so.1
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	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libgbf-1.so.1()(64bit)
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libgbf-widgets-1.so.1()(64bit)
	hamcrest-demo-1.1-5.1.fc10.ppc requires testng
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	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libgbf-1.so.1()(64bit)
	1:anjuta-2.4.2-1.fc10.ppc64 requires libgbf-widgets-1.so.1()(64bit)
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From johannbg at hi.is  Tue Oct 28 11:13:56 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:13:56 +0000
Subject: Selinux and Compiz: A SELinux rant
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810272250s30f7cc26v177d9261f7f3514e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>	<4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>	<d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>	<1225151737.3323.85.camel@mjolnir>
	<6d06ce20810272250s30f7cc26v177d9261f7f3514e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4906F3F4.2000809@hi.is>

<snip>
.......
</snip>

 From my experience things have gone a lot and I mean
a lot better but is still far away from perfection.

For the first time, I think it was the F10-beta I did not have
a single selinux report after *default* installation, now that
in itself is an achievement ( Let's hope it makes it so to final ).

I had to check if I had selinux in enforce mode here on my workstation
( F9 + I'm one of those that disables it if gets to much in my way of 
doing things)
and I do.

I'm not going to say I have not had to "tweak it a bit"
but it is running "silently" in the background now.

I think it's because of all the reports from the testers and
Dan's exceptional fast and good work on fixing things..

We of course have to continue feed him the reports we encounter
both from the official fedora repo's and and ( now ) rpmfusion  to 
have things fixed before it reaches the end-users.

When it comes to the reports that the novice end user receives
they are to technical orientated even thou I personally like to get
details, they are  perceived as gibberish from the end user that does
not understand selinux.

If we really want our end users to have good experience with selinux running
we need to add several things to setroubleshoot...

A)
Simplify the reports with an "Detail" button for us techies.

B)
Add a "Report" button that would file a selinux report to bugzilla. 
( Team Anconda has done this so the code is there just needs to be 
integrated I think. )

C)

 Add "Allow access" button that would execute the fix that 
setroubleshoot recommends
upon the end user provides the root password.  

The users going to do it anyway so why not make it easer for him to do 
so if he has 
the root password instead of having him open a terminal have the report 
open and type
in what's being recommended. users that dont have the root password  
could "Report" the issue.

D)
Add a "Fix" button that automatically restores the default system file 
context.

If you have any other suggestions on how to improve selinux experience 
please add your thoughts
to this thread or to the RFE I filed.  #Bug 468842

Issues wont get improved/fixed if we dont report them..

JBG
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From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 11:28:22 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:28:22 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap3 is a step backwards?
In-Reply-To: <1225140663.15746.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225140663.15746.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810280428s6cfebfeeh3b043d075016f65a@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:51 PM, James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Working okay on my XO, however I read from Ignacio that you may need to
> use a smaller swap and overlap when writing the image to the SD card.
>
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:37 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
>> I had to reduce them to 320 and 256 in order to get them to fit.
>
> Does that help?

Yes, I too had to reduce them to 384 and 256 to get them to fit.
(That's what I said in my first email.)

> Any stdout/err messages when writing your SD card?

# bash livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --xo --overlay-size-mb 384 --swap-size-mb
256 F10-Snap3-i686-Live.iso /dev/sdb1
Verifying image...
/mnt/F10-Snap3-i686-Live.iso:   14c169b261f2cb9c3b706dce2bf1c961
Fragment sums: 7a936662410587fe6bf179359ea1ebfdf784e4fc94d1fe48e339b57dafeb
Fragment count: 20
Checking: 100.0%

The media check is complete, the result is: PASS.

It is OK to use this media.
Copying live image to USB stick
`/media/cdtmp.hpKrQz/LiveOS/ext3fs.img' ->
`/media/usbdev.DeVhzG/LiveOS/ext3fs.img'
Updating boot config file
Initializing persistent overlay file
384+0 records in
384+0 records out
402653184 bytes (403 MB) copied, 40.7663 s, 9.9 MB/s
Initializing swap file
256+0 records in
256+0 records out
268435456 bytes (268 MB) copied, 27.2643 s, 9.8 MB/s
Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 262140 KiB
no label, UUID=8340801b-7926-4c17-84d8-26ddea83b52d
Setting up /boot/olpc.fth file
Installing boot loader
USB stick set up as live image!
#

/Blake



From dwalsh at redhat.com  Tue Oct 28 12:56:25 2008
From: dwalsh at redhat.com (Daniel J Walsh)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:56:25 -0400
Subject: Selinux and Compiz: A SELinux rant
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810272250s30f7cc26v177d9261f7f3514e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>	<4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>	<d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>	<1225151737.3323.85.camel@mjolnir>
	<6d06ce20810272250s30f7cc26v177d9261f7f3514e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49070BF9.3070006@redhat.com>

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Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:55 PM, John Morris <jmorris at beau.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 16:29, David Nalley wrote:
>>> I wish I could remember who to attribute this to, but someone on
>>> -devel suggested that the same arguments occurred when firewalls were
>>> really starting to become commonplace - a lack of knowledge of how to
>>> manipulate and handle them caused repeated calls for their removal.
>>> Mandatory Access Control isn't going away, and is really one of the
>>> shining examples of Fedora leading the way with something and making
>>> it far easier to use than it was.
>> Wish I could be as optimistic but I'm not.  SELinux has been trying to
>> get to a truly useful state since FC2 and still causes more problems
>> than it solves for too many end users.  Are we expected to believe that
>> it is about to finally 'just work?'
> 
> After years of will power to hold myself back from it, I caved in and
> gave an enforcing SElinux system a chance ... and everyone knows where
> that got me. [if you don't:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468645]
> 
>> Yes it is great for a locked down server, and it's something any sane
>> admin should try to use where a server is exposed to the wild Internet.
>> On a very basic desktop that doesn't change much or run many different
>> applications it doesn't do much harm... but also doesn't do much good
>> either.  On a more power user desktop it will almost always blow enough
>> stuff up to end up getting disabled in frustration.
> 
> It did harm on my "basic" desktop. And the response so far has been
> "your user database is screwed up." Not "hmm, that's odd, how can we
> fix it?", not even a "strange, how did that happen?". Yep, like I
> purposefully sabotaged my SElinux environment...
> Let me emphasize here that I see it's potential as a sysadmin.
> However, the current mindset is to force it upon the user, and that,
> simply, is narrow-minded.
> 
>> Compare and contrast to your example of enabling the firewall by
>> default.  That caused problems because it was done before good graphical
>> tools to control the thing were ready so end users had problems.  But
>> any admin worthy of the name could deal with iptables wuth a manpage, vi
>> (or emacs) and perhaps some Googling.  The number of people who can
>> write SELinux policy is still in the hundreds (at most) after five plus
>> years of Red Hat pushing the technology as hard as it can.
> 
> This is one of the points I was intending to make in my posts of the
> past few days. Inside, I *felt* the state of selinux is dysfunctional
> and wrong, but the *technical* part of me wanted to believe what I was
> told. As usual, my technical experience confirmed what my instincts
> told me - SElinux is not production quality. [And for those of you
> considering it, don't bother playing the "rawhide" card.]
> 
>> And this new idea of using log scraping tools to automatically generate
>> policy is simply an admission of that lack of skilled humans.  Anybody
>> who thinks automatically generated policy is going to produce a secure
>> system is delusional.  If enough humans who deeply understand SELinux
>> existed to be able to double check these auto generated policies they
>> could probably have written the darned things themselves.
> 
> You've really hit the nail on the head there. I've said it before, and
> I'll say it again as long as necessary, software quality currently
> sucks. Where did todays developers learn that it's OK to pass burdens
> off to the end user? Oh, that's right, it's the open source way -
> "someone else will test, fix, document, etc."
> "patches greatly accepted" is another way of saying, "I don't care,
> you do the work."
> 
>> Finally, the biggest objection is that it acts like alien technology
>> bolted onto UNIX's security model as a totally different and parallel
>> system.  And like alien tech humans can't understand it, they are
>> expected to treat it as a big black box and to just trust that it works
>> and doesn't hose them at unexpected times.  I can teach somebody the
>> UNIX permission model in less than an hour.  Learning the admin arcana
>> of sticky bits, SUID, noexec mounts and such takes a few more hours.  I
>> read the O'Reilly book on SELinux and still don't think I understand it
>> enough to write a sound policy.  It is hard to trust things that one
>> can't understand, especially a security system that I'm supposed to
>> somehow administer.
> 
> Amen.
> Thanks for this. It drew me back from the darkness. That means
> SELINUX=disabled and a relabel/reboot from now on, as I see from
> installing Snap 3 today that "enforcing" is shoved down our throats.
> But, I'm OK with that. I'm still inclined to "test it out" on *some*
> systems - that's why I'm here. But I won't be fooled again.
> Thank you also for "Whitebox" - It's still on a couple of my key
> production systems (for now). It was my first exposure to what "open
> source" and "community" really meant when combined together.
> 
> jerry
> 
SELinux has a bug in the selinux-policy-targeted package that fails to
setup the user database correct if the package is initially installed on
a disabled system.  If you later turn SELinux on, your database is
screwed up so you were not able to login.   The post install executes
these commands
semanage -S targeted -i - << __eof
user -a -P user -R "unconfined_r system_r" -r s0-s0:c0.c1023 unconfined_u
user -a -P user -R guest_r guest_u
user -a -P user -R xguest_r xguest_u
__eof
semanage -S targeted -i - << __eof
login -m  -s unconfined_u -r s0-s0:c0.c1023 __default__
login -m  -s unconfined_u -r s0-s0:c0.c1023 root
__eof

Which basically setup the default user and root account to login as
unconfined_t.  Since SELinux was disabled these commands failed.



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From jamundso at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 13:26:41 2008
From: jamundso at gmail.com (Jerry Amundson)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:26:41 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz: A SELinux rant
In-Reply-To: <49070BF9.3070006@redhat.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225151737.3323.85.camel@mjolnir>
	<6d06ce20810272250s30f7cc26v177d9261f7f3514e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49070BF9.3070006@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <6d06ce20810280626ie9fd530h94a048dad91232db@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> wrote:
> SELinux has a bug in the selinux-policy-targeted package that fails to
> setup the user database correct if the package is initially installed on
> a disabled system.  If you later turn SELinux on, your database is
> screwed up so you were not able to login.   The post install executes
> these commands
> semanage -S targeted -i - << __eof
> user -a -P user -R "unconfined_r system_r" -r s0-s0:c0.c1023 unconfined_u
> user -a -P user -R guest_r guest_u
> user -a -P user -R xguest_r xguest_u
> __eof
> semanage -S targeted -i - << __eof
> login -m  -s unconfined_u -r s0-s0:c0.c1023 __default__
> login -m  -s unconfined_u -r s0-s0:c0.c1023 root
> __eof
>
> Which basically setup the default user and root account to login as
> unconfined_t.  Since SELinux was disabled these commands failed.

OK, thanks.
I'll try it when I have a chance to get back on that system.

jerry

-- 
There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of smart".



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 28 13:41:07 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:41:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: openoffice-writer crashes upon startup
Message-ID: <243747.75255.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear fellow testers,

has anyone else encountered the crash at startup?

Filled a bug in case 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468857

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From kernel.zeng at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 13:50:51 2008
From: kernel.zeng at gmail.com (Wheelz)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:50:51 +0800
Subject: Yum install status char '#' doesn't proceed in the same line
In-Reply-To: <1225128522.2157.12.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <20081026031028.GA9774@Nalanda.localdomain>
	<1225128522.2157.12.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081028135051.GA10260@Nalanda.localdomain>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:28:42AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 11:10 +0800, Wheelz wrote:
> > 
> > If locale is en_US.utf8, it's ok.
> > 
> > If locale is zh_CN.utf8, the proceeding '#' will not go at the same line,
> > just like the following:
> 
> Should be fixed in yum 3.2.20
> 

Yum 3.2.20 still has problem.

With locale en_US.utf8, it is still ok.

With locale zh_CN.utf8, now yum has no "Updating" progress status at all.
Updating procedure has no output at all. 
"Cleanup" procedure does has output, but has no output of progress status '#'. 

The output looks like:(I have replaced Chinese with corresponding English)

......

Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Cleanup        : gnome-python2-gtkhtml2                          6/10 
  Cleanup        : gnome-desktop                                   7/10 
  Cleanup        : gnome-python2-extras                            8/10 
  Cleanup        : gnome-python2-libegg                            9/10 
  Cleanup        : gnome-packagekit                               10/10 

......



From cra at WPI.EDU  Tue Oct 28 13:49:49 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:49:49 -0400
Subject: Snap Releases
In-Reply-To: <1225168029.30782.3.camel@mjolnir>
References: <f30915689ca4c35a2b490bcdc6fb845b@fcp.surfsite.org>
	<1225168029.30782.3.camel@mjolnir>
Message-ID: <20081028134949.GJ24297@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:27:09PM -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 15:47, rjames wrote:
> 
> > If you guys are going to be using these in the future for live cd's, you need to make sure you aren't overburning these things because a hell of a lot of cd/dvd burners *DON'T* support this, and the snap 3 386 live cd iso are overburned [703 megs instead of the standard 650/702 megs].
> > 
> > None of my Liteon dvd burners support overburning and I don't think the older sony cdwr drive I have in a older computer supports it either.
> > 
> > If you are going to be overburning these things, at least say so, so people won't waste their time downloading something that's going to be unusable on their machines.
> 
> Or just keep a couple of DVD-RW around for burning one off test installs
> onto and stop piling up so many discs that aren't good for much a month
> later.  Better still, if you have a super-multi drives on your test
> machines is to use DVD-RAM.

I stuck all 6 LiveCD's onto a single DVD to save media and still enjoy 
testing all 6 spins at once (i686 & x86_64 Desktop, KDE, XFCE).



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Tue Oct 28 14:02:30 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:02:30 -0600
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
Message-ID: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>

I would never have noticed this, save for that I saw a Youtube video of
it...

On my ThinkPad T400, Plymouth doesn't launch the nice pretty GUI loader.
Instead, I only get the text mode dark blue / light blue / white
progress bar across the bottom. Then X loads and away we go from gdm.

I realized that I have never seen Plymouth's "graphical glory" on any of
the computers I've tried F10 on (I've always run the 64-bit version).
These computers all have something in common: Either nVidia or ATI
graphics cards.

Is Plymouth supposed to support these? If so, I guess I can file a
bugzilla on it.

Cheers,

Chris

--
====================================
"Behind every double standard
lies a single hidden agenda."

--G. K. Chesterton



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 14:19:19 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:19:19 +0200
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810280719v673c979n29aff26e70fadb4f@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/28 Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora at cawllc.com>

> I would never have noticed this, save for that I saw a Youtube video of
> it...
>
> On my ThinkPad T400, Plymouth doesn't launch the nice pretty GUI loader.
> Instead, I only get the text mode dark blue / light blue / white
> progress bar across the bottom. Then X loads and away we go from gdm.
>
> I realized that I have never seen Plymouth's "graphical glory" on any of
> the computers I've tried F10 on (I've always run the 64-bit version).
> These computers all have something in common: Either nVidia or ATI
> graphics cards.
>
> Is Plymouth supposed to support these? If so, I guess I can file a
> bugzilla on it.


http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/

worked for me on geforce 7300 gt.

however, between plymouth and gdm the video ram is still garbage.


> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> --
> ====================================
> "Behind every double standard
> lies a single hidden agenda."
>
> --G. K. Chesterton
>







>
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From caolanm at redhat.com  Tue Oct 28 14:24:35 2008
From: caolanm at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Caol=E1n?= McNamara)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:24:35 +0000
Subject: openoffice-writer crashes upon startup
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References: <243747.75255.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 06:41 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow testers,
> 
> has anyone else encountered the crash at startup?
> 
> Filled a bug in case 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468857

It crashes some way inside dlopen according to the stacks I've seen.
Possibly the first dlopen that OOo does, and it never happens again
according to the two reports. I suspect that its not an OOo-caused
crash.

It might be selinux related, but I can't really tell at the moment
because I can't log in with selinux in enforcing mode in rawhide. It
does launch fine for me at least post-boot in permissive mode.

C.



From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 14:26:16 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:26:16 +0200
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0810280719v673c979n29aff26e70fadb4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:19 PM, cornel panceac <cpanceac at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2008/10/28 Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora at cawllc.com>
>
>> I would never have noticed this, save for that I saw a Youtube video of
>> it...
>>
>> On my ThinkPad T400, Plymouth doesn't launch the nice pretty GUI loader.
>> Instead, I only get the text mode dark blue / light blue / white
>> progress bar across the bottom. Then X loads and away we go from gdm.
>>
>> I realized that I have never seen Plymouth's "graphical glory" on any of
>> the computers I've tried F10 on (I've always run the 64-bit version).
>> These computers all have something in common: Either nVidia or ATI
>> graphics cards.
>>
>> Is Plymouth supposed to support these? If so, I guess I can file a
>> bugzilla on it.
>
>
>
> http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
>
> worked for me on geforce 7300 gt.
>
> however, between plymouth and gdm the video ram is still garbage.
>
>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --
>> ====================================
>> "Behind every double standard
>> lies a single hidden agenda."
>>
>> --G. K. Chesterton
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
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On my geforce 6200fx it doesn't work, on my 8500gt doesn't work
either...only with "vga=0x318" appended at the kernel command line...maybe
it should be enabled by default in F10?
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From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 14:27:36 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:27:36 +0200
Subject: openoffice-writer crashes upon startup
In-Reply-To: <1225203875.13911.146.camel@vain.rhgalway>
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	<1225203875.13911.146.camel@vain.rhgalway>
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 06:41 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > Dear fellow testers,
> >
> > has anyone else encountered the crash at startup?
> >
> > Filled a bug in case
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468857
>
> It crashes some way inside dlopen according to the stacks I've seen.
> Possibly the first dlopen that OOo does, and it never happens again
> according to the two reports. I suspect that its not an OOo-caused
> crash.
>
> It might be selinux related, but I can't really tell at the moment
> because I can't log in with selinux in enforcing mode in rawhide. It
> does launch fine for me at least post-boot in permissive mode.
>
> C.
>
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Works here too with selinux disabled.
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From cpanceac at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 14:28:24 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:24 +0200
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <778179b00810280726i1436578cuee941ac2fc2b525d@mail.gmail.com>
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2008/10/28 Aioanei Rares <schaiba at gmail.com>

>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:19 PM, cornel panceac <cpanceac at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2008/10/28 Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora at cawllc.com>
>>
>>> I would never have noticed this, save for that I saw a Youtube video of
>>> it...
>>>
>>> On my ThinkPad T400, Plymouth doesn't launch the nice pretty GUI loader.
>>> Instead, I only get the text mode dark blue / light blue / white
>>> progress bar across the bottom. Then X loads and away we go from gdm.
>>>
>>> I realized that I have never seen Plymouth's "graphical glory" on any of
>>> the computers I've tried F10 on (I've always run the 64-bit version).
>>> These computers all have something in common: Either nVidia or ATI
>>> graphics cards.
>>>
>>> Is Plymouth supposed to support these? If so, I guess I can file a
>>> bugzilla on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
>>
>> worked for me on geforce 7300 gt.
>>
>> however, between plymouth and gdm the video ram is still garbage.
>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> --
>>> ====================================
>>> "Behind every double standard
>>> lies a single hidden agenda."
>>>
>>> --G. K. Chesterton
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
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>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
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>>
>>
>>
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>
> On my geforce 6200fx it doesn't work, on my 8500gt doesn't work
> either...only with "vga=0x318" appended at the kernel command line...maybe
> it should be enabled by default in F10?


imho there should be an "if"  somewhere ....

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From covertcodeop1 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 14:11:06 2008
From: covertcodeop1 at gmail.com (Zenko Klapko Jr.)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:11:06 -0400
Subject: All these XO threads
In-Reply-To: <1225116663.7117.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20081009140205.GI4100@monitoring-geo.icm.edu.pl>
	<1223572252.23405.39.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<20081009191716.GA3169@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>
	<1223584744.3241.46.camel@flatline> <ge28aa$6er$2@ger.gmane.org>
	<1225116663.7117.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <162a15970810280711y47a5479bk5e1d76d95aeb213f@mail.gmail.com>

I have both, an OLPC XO and a Asus EEE 2G surf model. The surf model
comes with more RAM, a larger hard drive, and twice the proc speed. On
the other had the XO battery life beats the EEE by a large margin.
Higher models of EEE come with a webcam, and I think they all come
with a built-in microphone and microphone jack.

Have to say I feel less like a doofus carrying around the EEE. Both
keyboards are small, but the EEE keyboard is slightly bigger. The EEE
has a monitor out and enough usb slots that you can turn the thing
into a docking station (which is normally how I use it for long
sessions).

-Zenko

On 10/27/08, Peter Larsen <plarsen at famlarsen.homelinux.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 17:11 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> James Laska wrote:
>>
>> > The main reason for suggesting we communicate Fedora testing on the XO
>> > on this list was to build on the experiences of the already established
>> > fedora-test-list community.
>>
>> Slightly OT, but is the XO actually a good buy,
>> compared say with the EeePC ?
>
> It's not a PC like you're used to. Or at least, it's not something you
> do big compiles on, setup databases and webservers on. It's a low end
> system however it has some amazing features. Easy portable, great LCD in
> sunlight, rucked etc.
>
> I can see it as a powerful alternative to some PDAs when it comes to
> in-the-field operations.
>
>> I thought it was meant to poor countries.
>> Does the US now fall into this category?
>> Sorry.
>
> Unfortunately, the answer there is yes. At least in some parts; XO - or
> OLPC is about giving children that otherwise wouldn't have it, a chance
> to gain technology knowledge and there through general knowledge and
> learning. Skills they need to survive, get good jobs etc.
>
> OLPC is actually giving away XO's in some parts of the US. Tragic but
> true.
>
> --
> Peter Larsen <plarsen at famlarsen.homelinux.com>
>


-- 
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much
liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
  - Thomas Jefferson



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Tue Oct 28 14:53:15 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:53:15 -0600
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
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On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:28 +0200, cornel panceac wrote:
> 
> 
> 2008/10/28 Aioanei Rares <schaiba at gmail.com>
>         
>         
>         
>         On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:19 PM, cornel panceac
>         <cpanceac at gmail.com> wrote:
>                 
>                 
>                 2008/10/28 Christopher A. Williams
>                 <chriswfedora at cawllc.com> 
>                 
>                         I would never have noticed this, save for that
>                         I saw a Youtube video of
>                         it...
>                         
>                         On my ThinkPad T400, Plymouth doesn't launch
>                         the nice pretty GUI loader.
>                         Instead, I only get the text mode dark blue /
>                         light blue / white
>                         progress bar across the bottom. Then X loads
>                         and away we go from gdm.
>                         
>                         I realized that I have never seen Plymouth's
>                         "graphical glory" on any of
>                         the computers I've tried F10 on (I've always
>                         run the 64-bit version).
>                         These computers all have something in common:
>                         Either nVidia or ATI
>                         graphics cards.
>                         
>                         Is Plymouth supposed to support these? If so,
>                         I guess I can file a
>                         bugzilla on it.
>                 
>                 http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
>                 
>                 worked for me on geforce 7300 gt.
>                 
>                 however, between plymouth and gdm the video ram is
>                 still garbage. 
>                 
>                 
>                         
>                         Cheers,
>                         
>                         Chris
>                         
>                         --
>                         ====================================
>                         "Behind every double standard
>                         lies a single hidden agenda."
>                         
>                         --G. K. Chesterton
>                 

>         in F10?
> 
> imho there should be an "if"  somewhere ....
> 

OK - makes sense. My nVidia card is an onboard GeForce 7100 on my
desktop. I'm not sure which series ATI card is on this ThinkPad T400
yet, but it also as this auto-switchable graphics mode that goes between
"Internal" Intel graphics and "Discrete" ATI Graphics. The model is a
2765-T6U. I had to disable that feature in CMOS for any video to work at
all.

Cheers,

Chris


-- 
======================
"Never murder a man when he's
busy committing suicide."

-- Woodrow Wilson



From covertcodeop1 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 14:54:53 2008
From: covertcodeop1 at gmail.com (Zenko Klapko Jr.)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:54:53 -0400
Subject: adduser doesn't quite get it
In-Reply-To: <49064B12.4030101@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <4905D081.8030606@omen.com>
	<1225126362.2157.8.camel@luminos.localdomain>
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Yes, I thought as a command line tool adduser is the barebones command
to add users to a system. Checking the main page one can find the
options for adding/changing a default group and additional groups.

I also remember a limitation of 16 groups for some software
applications. I'm not sure if that is still in effect or not.

-Zenko

On 10/27/08, John Summerfield <debian at herakles.homelinux.org> wrote:
> Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:52:42AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 07:30 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
>>>> A user added with the adduser command doesn't seem to have as many
>>>> privileges as one added from the GUI.  The obvious one is the ability to
>>>> use the sound system.  That was the problem with xmms.
>>> Which command line tool did you use to create the user?  IIRC one of
>>> them (luseradd) uses libuser as the backend, which can set the selinux
>>> permissions correctly where as useradd does not.
>>
>
> There's also the point that adduser does what you tell it, and that's
> not to add the user to lots of groups unless rootuser specifies
> otherwise, while another tool might add users to groups that fit well
> the the distro's philosophy. In the former case, sound might not while
> in the latter it works well.
>
>> Before anybody will ask - adduser and useradd this is the same
>> thing.
>
> It is in RedHattish systems, but not so in others.
>
> --
>
> Cheers
> John
>
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From eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net  Tue Oct 28 15:01:10 2008
From: eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net (stan)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:01:10 -0700
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
Message-ID: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>

Hi,

When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the 
EXT4 file system.  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot 
from my ext3 mbr.  It kept hanging when it went to the boot 
partition.  I tried some playing around but didn't get it to 
work.  I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly 
but left me in ext3.

When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 
filesystem.  Will this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 
still be a problem?  F10 will not be installed on the same 
disk as the mbr is on.  If it is a problem, is there a 
workaround?

Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?

Thanks.



From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 15:06:04 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:06:04 +0200
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>
Message-ID: <778179b00810280806ndd0186eg52be3dd7b1270ae7@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan <eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system.
>  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr.  It kept hanging
> when it went to the boot partition.  I tried some playing around but didn't
> get it to work.  I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly but
> left me in ext3.
>
> When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 filesystem.  Will
> this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 still be a problem?  F10 will not
> be installed on the same disk as the mbr is on.  If it is a problem, is
> there a workaround?
>
> Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
>
> Thanks.
>
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AFAICT, no.
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From limb at jcomserv.net  Tue Oct 28 15:10:41 2008
From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:10:41 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <778179b00810280806ndd0186eg52be3dd7b1270ae7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>
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> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan <eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file
>> system.
>>  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr.  It kept
>> hanging
>> when it went to the boot partition.  I tried some playing around but
>> didn't
>> get it to work.  I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly
>> but
>> left me in ext3.
>>
>> When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 filesystem.
>> Will
>> this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 still be a problem?  F10 will
>> not
>> be installed on the same disk as the mbr is on.  If it is a problem, is
>> there a workaround?
>>
>> Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
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>>
>
> AFAICT, no.

No to what?  He asked 2 questions.

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From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 15:16:34 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:16:34 +0200
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <67757d614ebdc296911f7af0a1619210.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>
	<778179b00810280806ndd0186eg52be3dd7b1270ae7@mail.gmail.com>
	<67757d614ebdc296911f7af0a1619210.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> wrote:

>
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan <eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file
> >> system.
> >>  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr.  It kept
> >> hanging
> >> when it went to the boot partition.  I tried some playing around but
> >> didn't
> >> get it to work.  I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly
> >> but
> >> left me in ext3.
> >>
> >> When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 filesystem.
> >> Will
> >> this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 still be a problem?  F10 will
> >> not
> >> be installed on the same disk as the mbr is on.  If it is a problem, is
> >> there a workaround?
> >>
> >> Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> --
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> >>
> >
> > AFAICT, no.
>
> No to what?  He asked 2 questions.
>
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No as in one cannot boot from a ext3 mbr if one wants to use ext4. Sorry for
not being explicit enough.
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From cpanceac at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 15:18:37 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:18:37 +0200
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <778179b00810280816w5dd03ed6l89b2a64e8e386f26@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>
	<778179b00810280806ndd0186eg52be3dd7b1270ae7@mail.gmail.com>
	<67757d614ebdc296911f7af0a1619210.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>
	<778179b00810280816w5dd03ed6l89b2a64e8e386f26@mail.gmail.com>
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2008/10/28 Aioanei Rares <schaiba at gmail.com>

>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jon Ciesla <limb at jcomserv.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan <eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file
>> >> system.
>> >>  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr.
>>
>
btw, what's an ext3 mbr?



> It kept
>> >> hanging
>> >> when it went to the boot partition.  I tried some playing around but
>> >> didn't
>> >> get it to work.  I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly
>> >> but
>> >> left me in ext3.
>> >>
>> >> When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 filesystem.
>> >> Will
>> >> this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 still be a problem?  F10
>> will
>> >> not
>> >> be installed on the same disk as the mbr is on.  If it is a problem, is
>> >> there a workaround?
>> >>
>> >> Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> >> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>> >>
>> >
>> > AFAICT, no.
>>
>> No to what?  He asked 2 questions.
>>
>> > --
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>> > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> > To unsubscribe:
>> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>
> No as in one cannot boot from a ext3 mbr if one wants to use ext4. Sorry
> for not being explicit enough.
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From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 28 15:18:57 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <778179b00810280816w5dd03ed6l89b2a64e8e386f26@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <850838.86230.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Aioanei Rares <schaiba at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Aioanei Rares <schaiba at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
> To: limb at jcomserv.net, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:16 AM
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jon Ciesla
> <limb at jcomserv.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan
> <eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided
> to use the EXT4 file
> > >> system.
> > >>  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from
> my ext3 mbr.  It kept
> > >> hanging
> > >> when it went to the boot partition.  I tried
> some playing around but
> > >> didn't
> > >> get it to work.  I ended up using preupgrade,
> which worked flawlessly
> > >> but
> > >> left me in ext3.
> > >>
> > >> When F10 is available I would like to run it
> in an ext4 filesystem.
> > >> Will
> > >> this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4
> still be a problem?  F10 will
> > >> not
> > >> be installed on the same disk as the mbr is
> on.  If it is a problem, is
> > >> there a workaround?
> > >>
> > >> Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> fedora-test-list mailing list
> > >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > >> To unsubscribe:
> >
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> > >>
> > >
> > > AFAICT, no.
> >
> > No to what?  He asked 2 questions.
> >
> > > --
> > > fedora-test-list mailing list
> > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > > To unsubscribe:
> > >
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> >
> >
> > --
> > novus ordo absurdum
> >
> > --
> > fedora-test-list mailing list
> > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe:
> >
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> >
> 
> No as in one cannot boot from a ext3 mbr if one wants to
> use ext4. Sorry for
> not being explicit enough.
> -- 

One can have an ext4 partition, but the /boot partition has to be ext2 or ext3 if I am not mistaken?  I have such a setup that I have an ext4 partition, but I am not sure if the /boot partition is ext2 or ext3?


Regards,

Antonio 


      



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 15:21:14 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:21:14 +0200
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <850838.86230.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <778179b00810280816w5dd03ed6l89b2a64e8e386f26@mail.gmail.com>
	<850838.86230.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810280821u5df2fcb3q84823627a164eaff@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/28 Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>

> --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Aioanei Rares <schaiba at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Aioanei Rares <schaiba at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
> > To: limb at jcomserv.net, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases"
> <fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:16 AM
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jon Ciesla
> > <limb at jcomserv.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan
> > <eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided
> > to use the EXT4 file
> > > >> system.
> > > >>  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from
> > my ext3 mbr.  It kept
> > > >> hanging
> > > >> when it went to the boot partition.  I tried
> > some playing around but
> > > >> didn't
> > > >> get it to work.  I ended up using preupgrade,
> > which worked flawlessly
> > > >> but
> > > >> left me in ext3.
> > > >>
> > > >> When F10 is available I would like to run it
> > in an ext4 filesystem.
> > > >> Will
> > > >> this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4
> > still be a problem?  F10 will
> > > >> not
> > > >> be installed on the same disk as the mbr is
> > on.  If it is a problem, is
> > > >> there a workaround?
> > > >>
> > > >> Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> fedora-test-list mailing list
> > > >> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > > >> To unsubscribe:
> > >
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > AFAICT, no.
> > >
> > > No to what?  He asked 2 questions.
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > fedora-test-list mailing list
> > > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > > > To unsubscribe:
> > > >
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > novus ordo absurdum
> > >
> > > --
> > > fedora-test-list mailing list
> > > fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > > To unsubscribe:
> > >
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> > >
> >
> > No as in one cannot boot from a ext3 mbr if one wants to
> > use ext4. Sorry for
> > not being explicit enough.
> > --
>
> One can have an ext4 partition, but the /boot partition has to be ext2 or
> ext3 if I am not mistaken?  I have such a setup that I have an ext4
> partition, but I am not sure if the /boot partition is ext2 or ext3?


i have / on ext4 and /boot on ext3.

>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
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From tim at maths.tcd.ie  Tue Oct 28 15:22:42 2008
From: tim at maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:22:42 +0000
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>
Message-ID: <ge7ao4$scr$1@ger.gmane.org>

stan wrote:

> When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the
> EXT4 file system.  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot
> from my ext3 mbr. 

Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4
when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD.
When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install)
I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.

Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?




From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 28 15:29:26 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:29:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <ge7ao4$scr$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <704686.85918.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Timothy Murphy <tim at maths.tcd.ie> wrote:

> From: Timothy Murphy <tim at maths.tcd.ie>
> Subject: Re: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:22 AM
> stan wrote:
> 
> > When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use
> the
> > EXT4 file system.  Unfortunately, there was no way to
> boot
> > from my ext3 mbr. 
> 
> Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4
> when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD.
> When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install)
> I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
> 
> Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?
> 
> 
> -- 

Yes!  Last post(s) confirm it.

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 28 15:28:11 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:28:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0810280821u5df2fcb3q84823627a164eaff@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <425401.21903.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>




--- On Tue, 10/28/08, cornel panceac <cpanceac at gmail.com> wrote:

> i have / on ext4 and /boot on ext3.
> 
> -- 
> Linux counter #213090

After figuring it out, I have ext3 /boot partition and the main one for F10 is ext4 :)

[root at riohigh ~]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xaf7caf7c

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          12       96358+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2           31841       31865      200812+  83  Linux
/dev/sda3           31866       38913    56613060   8e  Linux LVM
/dev/sda4              13       31840   255658410    5  Extended
/dev/sda5              13       26108   209616088+  83  Linux
/dev/sda6           26109       26239     1052226   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7           26240       31840    44990001   83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda1
/dev/sda1: TYPE="ext3"
[root at riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda5
/dev/sda5: TYPE="ext4"

Regards,

Antonio 


      



From sandeen at redhat.com  Tue Oct 28 15:32:40 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:32:40 -0500
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <850838.86230.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <850838.86230.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49073098.5090309@redhat.com>

Antonio Olivares wrote:

> One can have an ext4 partition, but the /boot partition has to be ext2 or ext3 if I am not mistaken?  I have such a setup that I have an ext4 partition, but I am not sure if the /boot partition is ext2 or ext3?
> 

That's correct.

If the mention of "ext3 mbr" meant "/boot is ext3" then the relevant
info is:  grub cannot (yet) boot from ext4.  /boot must be a separate,
non-ext4, grub-supported filesystem.  I'd go with ext3.

Thanks,
-Eric



From sandeen at redhat.com  Tue Oct 28 15:34:17 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:34:17 -0500
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <ge7ao4$scr$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net> <ge7ao4$scr$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <490730F9.50102@redhat.com>

Timothy Murphy wrote:
> stan wrote:
> 
>> When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the
>> EXT4 file system.  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot
>> from my ext3 mbr. 
> 
> Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4
> when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD.
> When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install)
> I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.

It takes a special boot-time parameter, put "ext4" on the anaconda boot
line and you'll see the option in the custom partitioning screen.

-Eric

> Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?
> 
> 



From schaiba at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 15:27:14 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:27:14 +0200
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <ge7ao4$scr$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net> <ge7ao4$scr$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <778179b00810280827m2856fdaatd0ef36bb526cc0c3@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Timothy Murphy <tim at maths.tcd.ie> wrote:

> stan wrote:
>
> > When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the
> > EXT4 file system.  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot
> > from my ext3 mbr.
>
> Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4
> when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD.
> When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install)
> I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
>
> Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?
>
>
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Maybe I'm a little outdated, but /boot must be ext2.
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From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 16:41:56 2008
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:11:56 +0530
Subject: Boot Problem
Message-ID: <78323d480810280941u685047a9y80559d989e0b35a5@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting thread here:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/grub-not-loading-after-updating-fedora-9-679555/


Best

A. Mani

-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 17:24:51 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:24:51 +0200
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <778179b00810280827m2856fdaatd0ef36bb526cc0c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net> <ge7ao4$scr$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<778179b00810280827m2856fdaatd0ef36bb526cc0c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810281024o3146a39at49d38f8c0953e14b@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/28 Aioanei Rares <schaiba at gmail.com>

>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Timothy Murphy <tim at maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
>
>> stan wrote:
>>
>> > When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the
>> > EXT4 file system.  Unfortunately, there was no way to boot
>> > from my ext3 mbr.
>>
>> Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4
>> when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD.
>> When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install)
>> I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
>>
>> Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?
>>
>>
>> --
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>> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
>> To unsubscribe:
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>>
>
> Maybe I'm a little outdated, but /boot must be ext2.


if i was you, i'd listen to eric sandeen. please don't ask me why :)

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From alsadi at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 18:16:11 2008
From: alsadi at gmail.com (Muayyad AlSadi)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:16:11 +0300
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <1225205595.26404.8.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<db64ccf0810280719v673c979n29aff26e70fadb4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<778179b00810280726i1436578cuee941ac2fc2b525d@mail.gmail.com>
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to trace the problem I think we need to know
are you using spanshot 3
do you have every thing update to the latest rawhide
do you have nvidia 177 driver from rpmfusion

BTW: I've only tested F10 on qemu-kvm and plymouth worked in text mode only



From blakestclaire at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 18:27:21 2008
From: blakestclaire at gmail.com (Blake St. Claire)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:27:21 -0400
Subject: XO: Snap3 is a step backwards?
In-Reply-To: <2e084c470810280428s6cfebfeeh3b043d075016f65a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e084c470810271331p20d16c82n46e91d5cc3eb1d2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225140663.15746.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<2e084c470810280428s6cfebfeeh3b043d075016f65a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2e084c470810281127v28c87024u53d01efcbf9433a6@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Blake St. Claire
<blakestclaire at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:51 PM, James Laska <jlaska at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Working okay on my XO, however I read from Ignacio that you may need to
>> use a smaller swap and overlap when writing the image to the SD card.
>>
>> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:37 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
>>> I had to reduce them to 320 and 256 in order to get them to fit.
>>
>> Does that help?
>
> Yes, I too had to reduce them to 384 and 256 to get them to fit.
> (That's what I said in my first email.)
>

I reimaged my SD with 320/256 (vs 384/256) and it's working much better now.

/Blake



From Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil  Tue Oct 28 18:38:16 2008
From: Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil (Todd Denniston)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:38:16 -0400
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <4901DCD0.4050404@redhat.com>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4901DCD0.4050404@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <49075C18.6030300@ssa.crane.navy.mil>

Ray Strode wrote, On 10/24/2008 10:33 AM:
> Hi,
>> Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
>> (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
>> Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
>> screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
>> (not impressed).
>> Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
>>
>> Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
>> enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
>>   
> Unfortunately, the latest intel drivers don't do modesetting by default.
> 
> It's actually hard to enable modesetting for testing purposes too, 
> because we don't write the pciids the card supports into the driver (for 
> mkinitrd to find it).
> 
> Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel 
> users are stuck with a text splash.
> 
> To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).
> 
> --Ray
> 

Has anyone working on the changes considered a configuration item for 
grub|plymouth which would allow the admin to basically set 'HideGrub=NO' if 
they wanted it to always show up?


-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 18:45:38 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:45:38 +0200
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <49075C18.6030300@ssa.crane.navy.mil>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4901DCD0.4050404@redhat.com> <49075C18.6030300@ssa.crane.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810281145x7d2b8819xe7825c2e639ad79c@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/28 Todd Denniston <Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil>

> Ray Strode wrote, On 10/24/2008 10:33 AM:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
>>> (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
>>> Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
>>> screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
>>> (not impressed).
>>> Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
>>>
>>> Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
>>> enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
>>>
>>>
>> Unfortunately, the latest intel drivers don't do modesetting by default.
>>
>> It's actually hard to enable modesetting for testing purposes too, because
>> we don't write the pciids the card supports into the driver (for mkinitrd to
>> find it).
>>
>> Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel users
>> are stuck with a text splash.
>>
>> To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).
>>
>> --Ray
>>
>>
> Has anyone working on the changes considered a configuration item for
> grub|plymouth which would allow the admin to basically set 'HideGrub=NO' if
> they wanted it to always show up?


comment out

hiddenmenu

line.

>
>
>
> --
> Todd Denniston
> Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
> Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
>
>
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From katzj at redhat.com  Tue Oct 28 18:46:09 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:46:09 -0400
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <49075C18.6030300@ssa.crane.navy.mil>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4901DCD0.4050404@redhat.com>  <49075C18.6030300@ssa.crane.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <1225219569.13184.30.camel@aglarond.local>

On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:38 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:
> Ray Strode wrote, On 10/24/2008 10:33 AM:
> > Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel 
> > users are stuck with a text splash.
> > 
> > To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).
>
> Has anyone working on the changes considered a configuration item for 
> grub|plymouth which would allow the admin to basically set 'HideGrub=NO' if 
> they wanted it to always show up?

You mean like by changing timeout= in /boot/grub/grub.conf to a non-zero
value? :-)

Jeremy



From davidwmack at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 20:12:13 2008
From: davidwmack at gmail.com (David Mack)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:12:13 -0700
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
In-Reply-To: <ge2tek$7ig$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<78323d480810261504s45e23d14w8b72b0f27a95e787@mail.gmail.com>
	<ge2tek$7ig$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <753ec7300810281312i4cc87305q736ac7824c790310@mail.gmail.com>

Probably a silly question, but is it a USB keyboard? If so, does your
BIOS support USB keyboard and is it enabled in the BIOS? Does the
machine have PS/2 connectors and can you try a PS/2 keyboard?

Dave

On 10/26/08, Timothy Murphy <tim at maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
> Mani A wrote:
>
> >> I'm intending to look at the CMOS battery,
> >> and perhaps try re-installing the BIOS.
> >> Any other suggestions gratefully received.
>
> > Do you have a Graphics card on the system?
>
> According to lspci, it is a
> VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter
>
> > Look at the keyboard too and the mainboard
>
> But I don't see how either of these can be at fault,
> since the machine works perfectly under Windows and Linux,
> once it is booted.
> The keyboard is only disabled during boot-up.
>
>
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From Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil  Tue Oct 28 20:35:01 2008
From: Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil (Todd Denniston)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:35:01 -0400
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <1225219569.13184.30.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>	<4901DCD0.4050404@redhat.com>
	<49075C18.6030300@ssa.crane.navy.mil>
	<1225219569.13184.30.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <49077775.60908@ssa.crane.navy.mil>

Jeremy Katz wrote, On 10/28/2008 02:46 PM:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:38 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:
>> Ray Strode wrote, On 10/24/2008 10:33 AM:
>>> Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel 
>>> users are stuck with a text splash.
>>>
>>> To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).
>> Has anyone working on the changes considered a configuration item for 
>> grub|plymouth which would allow the admin to basically set 'HideGrub=NO' if 
>> they wanted it to always show up?
> 
> You mean like by changing timeout= in /boot/grub/grub.conf to a non-zero
> value? :-)
> 
> Jeremy
> 
<sound of the palm of a hand impacting a forehead>
OK, That'll work.

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



From martin.sourada at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 20:38:35 2008
From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:38:35 +0100
Subject: How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?
In-Reply-To: <4901DCD0.4050404@redhat.com>
References: <64b14b300810240523q52fe6584udad4140779d0713a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4901DCD0.4050404@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1225226315.2717.3.camel@pc-notebook>

On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 10:33 -0400, Ray Strode wrote:
> Hi,
> > Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
> > (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
> > Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
> > screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
> > (not impressed).
> > Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
> >
> > Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
> > enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
> >   
> Unfortunately, the latest intel drivers don't do modesetting by default.
> 
Is there any way to enable it to test if it works or not, or would I
need to rebuild the drivers with it enabled? vga=0x318 seems to not give
correct resolution, vga=720 behaves same. No smooth transition to GDM...

Martin

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From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl  Tue Oct 28 20:40:26 2008
From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst H. von Brand)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:40:26 -0300
Subject: openoffice-writer crashes upon startup
In-Reply-To: <778179b00810280727x1c64c77cx261315e044d3ec32@mail.gmail.com>
References: <243747.75255.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<1225203875.13911.146.camel@vain.rhgalway>
	<778179b00810280727x1c64c77cx261315e044d3ec32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200810282040.m9SKeQ6k000926@laptop14.inf.utfsm.cl>

Aioanei Rares <schaiba at gmail.com> wrote:

> [OOo writer crash]

x86_64, rawhide fully up to date.

oowriter starts fine, both on its own (no file) and loading a file.
-- 
Dr. Horst H. von Brand                   User #22616 counter.li.org
Departamento de Informatica                    Fono: +56 32 2654431
Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria             +56 32 2654239
Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile 2340000       Fax:  +56 32 2797513



From eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net  Tue Oct 28 21:25:25 2008
From: eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net (stan)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:25:25 -0700
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <db64ccf0810280818x1fa9fbd5lb5f4962dae1fcd83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>	<778179b00810280806ndd0186eg52be3dd7b1270ae7@mail.gmail.com>	<67757d614ebdc296911f7af0a1619210.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>	<778179b00810280816w5dd03ed6l89b2a64e8e386f26@mail.gmail.com>
	<db64ccf0810280818x1fa9fbd5lb5f4962dae1fcd83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49078345.1030809@cox.net>

cornel panceac wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> btw, what's an ext3 mbr?
> 
An mbr on an ext3 formatted disk, created with a grub from 
that ext3 formatted disk.  Perhaps not the best way to 
describe it. :-)



From eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net  Tue Oct 28 21:32:27 2008
From: eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net (stan)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:32:27 -0700
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <49073098.5090309@redhat.com>
References: <850838.86230.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<49073098.5090309@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <490784EB.5070404@cox.net>

Eric Sandeen wrote:
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
> 
>> One can have an ext4 partition, but the /boot partition has to be ext2 or ext3 if I am not mistaken?  I have such a setup that I have an ext4 partition, but I am not sure if the /boot partition is ext2 or ext3?
>>
> 
> That's correct.
> 
> If the mention of "ext3 mbr" meant "/boot is ext3" then the relevant
> info is:  grub cannot (yet) boot from ext4.  /boot must be a separate,
> non-ext4, grub-supported filesystem.  I'd go with ext3.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Eric
> 
I want to thank everyone who responded.  It is clear to me 
now what is necessary to use an ext4 filesystem.

My failure was that I was using /boot that was ext4.  I 
could select it from the grub menu on the other disk, but 
when it tried to start from there, it failed.

At least that is what I remember.  It's been a while.



From cra at WPI.EDU  Tue Oct 28 21:55:52 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:55:52 -0400
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <49078345.1030809@cox.net>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>
	<778179b00810280806ndd0186eg52be3dd7b1270ae7@mail.gmail.com>
	<67757d614ebdc296911f7af0a1619210.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>
	<778179b00810280816w5dd03ed6l89b2a64e8e386f26@mail.gmail.com>
	<db64ccf0810280818x1fa9fbd5lb5f4962dae1fcd83@mail.gmail.com>
	<49078345.1030809@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20081028215552.GL19205@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 02:25:25PM -0700, stan wrote:
> cornel panceac wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> btw, what's an ext3 mbr?
>>
> An mbr on an ext3 formatted disk, created with a grub from that ext3 
> formatted disk.  Perhaps not the best way to describe it. :-)

Disks are not usually formatted with filesystems such as ext3.  
Partitions are.

MBR lives outside any partition, being the first sector of the disk 
where the primary partition table lives.

So the statement "ext3 mbr" makes no sense.



From tim at maths.tcd.ie  Tue Oct 28 22:16:46 2008
From: tim at maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:16:46 +0000
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net> <ge7ao4$scr$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<490730F9.50102@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <ge830g$r4n$1@ger.gmane.org>

Eric Sandeen wrote:

> Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4
>> when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD.
>> When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install)
>> I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.

> It takes a special boot-time parameter, put "ext4" on the anaconda boot
> line and you'll see the option in the custom partitioning screen.

Does the Live CD give one an opportunity to add options?
I didn't see an anaconda boot line after I clicked on 
the "Install on hard disk" icon.




From bruno at wolff.to  Tue Oct 28 22:35:03 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:35:03 -0500
Subject: luks related change is prevented boots of system with encryption
	over raid
Message-ID: <20081028223503.GA7846@wolff.to>

I rebooted this morning after pulling in some changes from last night (a mix of rawhide and koji updates) and my system was not booting.
I so far have noticed that the /dev/mapper/luks-8 naming format has changed and I think that is relating to my problems. I haven't gotten
things totally fixed, but i now have my file systems mount under /mnt/sysimage when rebooting. Hopefully now that the /dev directory is
there a new mkinitrd will clean things up.

I think using the luks ids in the names is a good idea, but it would have been nice to have something automatically handle the transition.
I haven't seen a big heads up about this and there probably should have been one. It also was a bad thing to change right before the freeze.
So far I have changed /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab to use the new names. I'll report back again after hopefully finishing getting
things to work again.



From selinux at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 22:55:57 2008
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:55:57 -0700
Subject: luks related change is prevented boots of system with
	encryption over raid
In-Reply-To: <20081028223503.GA7846@wolff.to>
References: <20081028223503.GA7846@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530810281555o71ea9185qb9d6920c151f5f1b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> I rebooted this morning after pulling in some changes from last night (a mix of rawhide and koji updates) and my system was not booting.
> I so far have noticed that the /dev/mapper/luks-8 naming format has changed and I think that is relating to my problems. I haven't gotten
> things totally fixed, but i now have my file systems mount under /mnt/sysimage when rebooting. Hopefully now that the /dev directory is
> there a new mkinitrd will clean things up.
>
> I think using the luks ids in the names is a good idea, but it would have been nice to have something automatically handle the transition.
> I haven't seen a big heads up about this and there probably should have been one. It also was a bad thing to change right before the freeze.
> So far I have changed /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab to use the new names. I'll report back again after hopefully finishing getting
> things to work again.
>
This related?  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468856

tom
-- 
Tom London



From bruno at wolff.to  Tue Oct 28 23:04:30 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:04:30 -0500
Subject: Rescue activation of network doesn't work
Message-ID: <20081028230430.GA19286@wolff.to>

When using a rescue usb made from a combination of last night's boot.iso and a livecd to liveusb tool I get a traceback if I try to activate
the network devices. I am not sure where the fault is in this and it is an odd configuration, but it might be worth testing more conventionally.
I'll eventually get a change to try using the boot.iso from a cd/dvd but right now I can't and I probably won't have time for a copule of days
to futz with it. If I can reproduce it, I make a bugzilla for it.



From bruno at wolff.to  Tue Oct 28 23:50:07 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:50:07 -0500
Subject: Selinux and Compiz: A SELinux rant
In-Reply-To: <1225151737.3323.85.camel@mjolnir>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4904C266.9080007@gmail.com>
	<d6e6dfeb0810261429kd80ffaax58a5523af1f77f70@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225151737.3323.85.camel@mjolnir>
Message-ID: <20081028235007.GA850@wolff.to>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 18:55:38 -0500,
  John Morris <jmorris at beau.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes it is great for a locked down server, and it's something any sane
> admin should try to use where a server is exposed to the wild Internet. 
> On a very basic desktop that doesn't change much or run many different
> applications it doesn't do much harm... but also doesn't do much good
> either.  On a more power user desktop it will almost always blow enough
> stuff up to end up getting disabled in frustration.

SELinux has great potential for the Desktop user and will be even more important
for them than it is on the server. It provides a way for a user to run foreign
code that they have limited trust of and have some protection from that code.
(I.e. it can't do everything they can.) If we don't have some sort of mac
system and average computer users start flocking to linux, they are going to need
to run antivirus crap instead.

It also provides a way to provide guest access to your machine that is reasonably
safe.

Fixing problems with policy have gotten easier. Permissive domains is a big step.

There is work going on labelling network traffic so that you can enforce policies
in a networked environment rather than on just a single machine.



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 29 00:01:01 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:01:01 -0500
Subject: luks related change is prevented boots of system with
	encryption over raid
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530810281555o71ea9185qb9d6920c151f5f1b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20081028223503.GA7846@wolff.to>
	<4c4ba1530810281555o71ea9185qb9d6920c151f5f1b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081029000101.GA7775@wolff.to>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 15:55:57 -0700,
  Tom London <selinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> > I rebooted this morning after pulling in some changes from last night (a mix of rawhide and koji updates) and my system was not booting.
> > I so far have noticed that the /dev/mapper/luks-8 naming format has changed and I think that is relating to my problems. I haven't gotten
> > things totally fixed, but i now have my file systems mount under /mnt/sysimage when rebooting. Hopefully now that the /dev directory is
> > there a new mkinitrd will clean things up.
> >
> > I think using the luks ids in the names is a good idea, but it would have been nice to have something automatically handle the transition.
> > I haven't seen a big heads up about this and there probably should have been one. It also was a bad thing to change right before the freeze.
> > So far I have changed /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab to use the new names. I'll report back again after hopefully finishing getting
> > things to work again.
> >
> This related?  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468856

It might be related. What I am seeing with the rescue disk was that the files were being opened as dm-? devices were being set up which
I could mount without a problem. What seems to have been the problem in rescue mode is that the names in fstab and grub.conf weren't matching.
For luks devices device names were being used instead of labels.

Now things are working with the rescue boot, but regular boots still aren't working.

I am in the process of updating to current koji and will do a test then in case anything has been fixed. I have the new local repo built
and will be doing the update shortly.



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 29 00:37:36 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:37:36 -0500
Subject: luks related change is prevented boots of system with
	encryption over raid
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530810281555o71ea9185qb9d6920c151f5f1b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20081028223503.GA7846@wolff.to>
	<4c4ba1530810281555o71ea9185qb9d6920c151f5f1b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081029003736.GA23800@wolff.to>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 15:55:57 -0700,
  Tom London <selinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> > I rebooted this morning after pulling in some changes from last night (a mix of rawhide and koji updates) and my system was not booting.
> > I so far have noticed that the /dev/mapper/luks-8 naming format has changed and I think that is relating to my problems. I haven't gotten
> > things totally fixed, but i now have my file systems mount under /mnt/sysimage when rebooting. Hopefully now that the /dev directory is
> > there a new mkinitrd will clean things up.
> >
> > I think using the luks ids in the names is a good idea, but it would have been nice to have something automatically handle the transition.
> > I haven't seen a big heads up about this and there probably should have been one. It also was a bad thing to change right before the freeze.
> > So far I have changed /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab to use the new names. I'll report back again after hopefully finishing getting
> > things to work again.
> >
> This related?  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468856

After my last try I did notice that it was trying to switch to the new root before asking for my passphrase so that it is likely that the
problem is the same. I'll look at it again and see about using an older version of plymouth. Though I may have to change the device names
back if that is something that is only different for rescue mode.



From selinux at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 00:40:51 2008
From: selinux at gmail.com (Tom London)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:40:51 -0700
Subject: luks related change is prevented boots of system with
	encryption over raid
In-Reply-To: <20081029003736.GA23800@wolff.to>
References: <20081028223503.GA7846@wolff.to>
	<4c4ba1530810281555o71ea9185qb9d6920c151f5f1b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081029003736.GA23800@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <4c4ba1530810281740y6f5b092oc8ba6db96702f8a6@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 15:55:57 -0700,
>  Tom London <selinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
>> > I rebooted this morning after pulling in some changes from last night (a mix of rawhide and koji updates) and my system was not booting.
>> > I so far have noticed that the /dev/mapper/luks-8 naming format has changed and I think that is relating to my problems. I haven't gotten
>> > things totally fixed, but i now have my file systems mount under /mnt/sysimage when rebooting. Hopefully now that the /dev directory is
>> > there a new mkinitrd will clean things up.
>> >
>> > I think using the luks ids in the names is a good idea, but it would have been nice to have something automatically handle the transition.
>> > I haven't seen a big heads up about this and there probably should have been one. It also was a bad thing to change right before the freeze.
>> > So far I have changed /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab to use the new names. I'll report back again after hopefully finishing getting
>> > things to work again.
>> >
>> This related?  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468856
>
> After my last try I did notice that it was trying to switch to the new root before asking for my passphrase so that it is likely that the
> problem is the same. I'll look at it again and see about using an older version of plymouth. Though I may have to change the device names
> back if that is something that is only different for rescue mode.
>
The problem described in the BZ above is with mkinitrd, not plymouth.

I just reverted mkinitrd (and nash and libbdevid-python), rebuilt the
initrd and all was OK.

tom
-- 
Tom London



From bressers at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 01:06:23 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:06:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO Performance Team meeting
In-Reply-To: <286738014.4467591225242280178.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1729606627.4467751225242382989.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

So we had the first XO Performance Team meeting.  Given we have a pretty defined
scope, there wasn't a ton to talk about.

I updated the wiki page with our high level goals:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance

Right now, the plan is this:
  lmacken is going to look at some kernel foo I don't understand.
  mrhodes Is going to look at the services.
  We could still stand someone looking at the gnome bits
  and how to make firefox more usable.
  I'll deal with some image creation things.

So any other team members who weren't around, feel free to grab a task, fill in
the wiki with more details, or start discussion on the mailing list.

-- 
    JB



From poelstra at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 01:21:06 2008
From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:21:06 -0700
Subject: Fedora Bug Triage Meeting Recap 2008-10-28 
Message-ID: <4907BA82.5050304@redhat.com>

Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Oct-28

Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.

== Attendees ==
* poelcat
* jds2001
* kulll
* jlaska
* quantumburnz

== Important points ==
* Still no update from FEver owner--poelcat sent email
* triage priorities remain the same... http://tinyurl.com/6llac8
** 605 untriaged bugs presently
* poelcat still needs to update BugZapper wiki page with "why triage is 
important"
* getting 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora10 prepared
** quantumburnz updated the page and took a shot at the queries--we need 
to double check them
** whiteboard tag of ''noauto'' is not in use for any bug--we will not 
include it in our queries
** bugs which package maintainers want to remain indefinitely in 
''rawhide'' version should add keyword: ''FutureFeature''
*** even if it is not an RFE this is okay

== Meeting Time and Day ==
* With change to Day Light Savings Time meeting will still occur at 
10:00 AM Eastern
* Adjust to new time of 15:00 UTC starting with next meeting on 2008-11-04


== IRC Transcript ==



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 29 01:26:56 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:26:56 -0500
Subject: luks related change is prevented boots of system with
	encryption over raid
In-Reply-To: <4c4ba1530810281740y6f5b092oc8ba6db96702f8a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20081028223503.GA7846@wolff.to>
	<4c4ba1530810281555o71ea9185qb9d6920c151f5f1b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081029003736.GA23800@wolff.to>
	<4c4ba1530810281740y6f5b092oc8ba6db96702f8a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081029012656.GA11218@wolff.to>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 17:40:51 -0700,
  Tom London <selinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just reverted mkinitrd (and nash and libbdevid-python), rebuilt the
> initrd and all was OK.

Yeah, I meant mkinitrd needed to be reverted. I had to access the bugzilla
through lynx and have been bouncing back and forth.

However, there are two separate problems. One is not running crypt setup
another is that plymouth is using a different way to name encrypted raid
devices than udev.

I got my machine booted up into its (mostly) normal state now but there
are a lot of errors I need to skip during the boot.

To fix things I needed to name / and swap with /dev/mapper/luks-*long luks id*
in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.conf and leave /home and /play as
/dev/mapper/luks-md? . When udev runs it tries to mount the old style names
for / and swap again and things fail. But I can hit return a bunch of times
and eventually the system finishes booting.

This is what my device names look like:
[bruno at cerberus ~]$ ls /dev/mapper
control                                    luks-md3
luks-9979e281-5710-476f-8536-e49846d53398  luks-md4
luks-9cfcdd2a-d2ff-4c30-818c-344764c7cc21

I wouldn't mind seeing a switch over to using the luks ids but that is probably
going to bite people with existing setups and its probably too late to
develop this since we are at the freeze. So I suggest changing plymouth
(or whatever) back to using names like udev currently does and consider
changing later with some way of simply updating for people.



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 29 01:33:46 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:33:46 -0500
Subject: luks related change is prevented boots of system with
	encryption over raid
In-Reply-To: <20081029012656.GA11218@wolff.to>
References: <20081028223503.GA7846@wolff.to>
	<4c4ba1530810281555o71ea9185qb9d6920c151f5f1b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081029003736.GA23800@wolff.to>
	<4c4ba1530810281740y6f5b092oc8ba6db96702f8a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081029012656.GA11218@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <20081029013346.GA15891@wolff.to>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 20:26:56 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 17:40:51 -0700,
> 
> However, there are two separate problems. One is not running crypt setup
> another is that plymouth is using a different way to name encrypted raid
> devices than udev.

Do you want a separate bugzilla for this?



From sandeen at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 02:30:51 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:30:51 -0500
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <ge830g$r4n$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>
	<ge7ao4$scr$1@ger.gmane.org>	<490730F9.50102@redhat.com>
	<ge830g$r4n$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4907CADB.1020502@redhat.com>

Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Eric Sandeen wrote:
> 
>> Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4
>>> when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD.
>>> When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install)
>>> I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
> 
>> It takes a special boot-time parameter, put "ext4" on the anaconda boot
>> line and you'll see the option in the custom partitioning screen.
> 
> Does the Live CD give one an opportunity to add options?
> I didn't see an anaconda boot line after I clicked on 
> the "Install on hard disk" icon.

It's not an option for the live cd, only the installer.

If you install to disk from the livecd, you get ext3.

-Eric



From adam at physco.com  Wed Oct 29 03:56:58 2008
From: adam at physco.com (Adam D. Ligas)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:56:58 -0400
Subject: XO: Random Findings
Message-ID: <1225252618.18380.38.camel@Q>

Hey folks,

My original XO was electrically challenged, so I had to wait for my
replacement XO.  The new one has arrived, and armed with my 4GB SD card,
I've got Fedora up and running.  I did need to use the 384/256 setting
with Snap3 to avoid any low space errors when running the creation
script.

Lots of folks seem to be working/commenting on the performance things,
so I thought I would take a stroll through some of the other test plans
in the wiki and give some random things a try.

On the display side of things, most of the fonts seem to be chopped in
half and some buttons appear blacked out.  I can't seem to predict when
either will occur, but both occur often.  Looked for settings to change
the DPI as suggested, but I couldn't find any.

Gave "Cheese" a try with the built in camera.  Appears to function
normally, though it is pretty slow to initialize the camera and get it
displayed on screen.  Effects work, but cause a significant delay in the
refresh rate.  Maybe being CPU limited here?

Setup the 802.11g wireless via NetworkManager, and had no trouble.
Connecting to my WPA2-PSK/AES network without any difficulty was quite a
joy!

Firefox worked and didn't seem to be completely miserable.  Maybe I'm
luckier then most.  I didn't browse around too much though.

I was going to play with some audio but my initial testing ended here
with Power Management.  Basically, the XO just died :).  Fedora didn't
detect it was running on a battery, and so I received no alert that the
battery was low, and it just ran out of juice.

Interesting little machine - I'm looking forward to more testing once I
get back home to the charger.

- Adam



From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 29 04:31:03 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:31:03 -0500
Subject: Rescue activation of network doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <20081028230430.GA19286@wolff.to>
References: <20081028230430.GA19286@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <20081029043103.GA32204@wolff.to>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 18:04:30 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> When using a rescue usb made from a combination of last night's boot.iso and a livecd to liveusb tool I get a traceback if I try to activate
> the network devices. I am not sure where the fault is in this and it is an odd configuration, but it might be worth testing more conventionally.
> I'll eventually get a change to try using the boot.iso from a cd/dvd but right now I can't and I probably won't have time for a copule of days
> to futz with it. If I can reproduce it, I make a bugzilla for it.

This is now bug 468954.



From timo.trinks at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 04:39:56 2008
From: timo.trinks at redhat.com (Timo Trinks)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:39:56 +1000
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
Message-ID: <20081029043956.GC6521@magrathea.bne.redhat.com>

G'day!

just a quick note the XO has arrived down under.

Done steps 1.-5.2 under "When you get an XO" [1], waiting for the
developer key activation. As soon as it's activated I get myself
involved with the Display testing [2]...

Cheers,

Timo

[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Documentation
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XO_Test_Roll_Call#Display:_Dream_broadcast
-- 
 ,-._|\   RHCE, Engineering Operations, Red Hat Asia-Pacific
/      *  PGP-KeyID: 0x5D7A055D
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From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 29 04:41:37 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:41:37 -0500
Subject: luks related change is prevented boots of system with
	encryption over raid
In-Reply-To: <20081029013346.GA15891@wolff.to>
References: <20081028223503.GA7846@wolff.to>
	<4c4ba1530810281555o71ea9185qb9d6920c151f5f1b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081029003736.GA23800@wolff.to>
	<4c4ba1530810281740y6f5b092oc8ba6db96702f8a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081029012656.GA11218@wolff.to> <20081029013346.GA15891@wolff.to>
Message-ID: <20081029044137.GB32204@wolff.to>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 20:33:46 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 20:26:56 -0500,
>   Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 17:40:51 -0700,
> > 
> > However, there are two separate problems. One is not running crypt setup
> > another is that plymouth is using a different way to name encrypted raid
> > devices than udev.
> 
> Do you want a separate bugzilla for this?

This is now bug 468955.



From cpanceac at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 04:50:28 2008
From: cpanceac at gmail.com (cornel panceac)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:50:28 +0200
Subject: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr?
In-Reply-To: <49078345.1030809@cox.net>
References: <49072936.3060402@cox.net>
	<778179b00810280806ndd0186eg52be3dd7b1270ae7@mail.gmail.com>
	<67757d614ebdc296911f7af0a1619210.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net>
	<778179b00810280816w5dd03ed6l89b2a64e8e386f26@mail.gmail.com>
	<db64ccf0810280818x1fa9fbd5lb5f4962dae1fcd83@mail.gmail.com>
	<49078345.1030809@cox.net>
Message-ID: <db64ccf0810282150m79ac110chf073369e1a0755c5@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/28 stan <eiqep_eiwo_y at cox.net>

> cornel panceac wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> btw, what's an ext3 mbr?
>>
>>  An mbr on an ext3 formatted disk, created with a grub from that ext3
> formatted disk.  Perhaps not the best way to describe it. :-)


interesting. thnx, but see chuck anderson's comment.

>
>
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From terry.stewart at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 04:51:55 2008
From: terry.stewart at gmail.com (Terry Stewart)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:51:55 -0400
Subject: XO: Random Findings
In-Reply-To: <1225252618.18380.38.camel@Q>
References: <1225252618.18380.38.camel@Q>
Message-ID: <dcd3625b0810282151w2655118fnd7122820e778d965@mail.gmail.com>

> On the display side of things, most of the fonts seem to be chopped in
> half and some buttons appear blacked out.  I can't seem to predict when
> either will occur, but both occur often.  Looked for settings to change
> the DPI as suggested, but I couldn't find any.

Check under System->Preferences->Look and Feel->Appearance->Fonts.
Turn on "subpixel smoothing" to get the font chopping to go away, and
then go to Details and set the resolution to 130 or so (whatever you
find most comfortable).

> I was going to play with some audio but my initial testing ended here
> with Power Management.  Basically, the XO just died :).  Fedora didn't
> detect it was running on a battery, and so I received no alert that the
> battery was low, and it just ran out of juice.

Did the battery indicator light (right beside the power light) turn
red before it shut down?  It's supposed to turn red when the battery
is below 10% power.  If it didn't, you might have a slightly confused
battery that doesn't quite know how charged it is.  This is somewhat
common with XOs, and there's a procedure to reset the batteries to get
them back to their full (~4 hour) life span.  See
<http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_LiFePO4_Recovery_Procedure> for more
information.

:)
Terry



From terry.stewart at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 05:14:22 2008
From: terry.stewart at gmail.com (Terry Stewart)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:14:22 -0400
Subject: XO: USB video adapter (sisusb)
Message-ID: <dcd3625b0810282214i4f3cd619qe152bb80fd210eb@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I am attempting to test the sisusb support under Snap3 on the XO
laptop.  This should allow the use of a USB VGA adapter so that an
external monitor/projector can be used on the XO.  I have successfully
done this with Ubuntu on the XO, and it seems to work fine under Sugar
(the system that comes with the XO) as well (see
<http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Remote_Display> for details).  However, I
have been unable to do this under Fedora.

My approach has been to boot up the machine with Snap3, modify
xorg.conf, plug in the usb vga adapter (GXT USB 2.0 To VGA Adapter
(UVA200) <http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10091172&catid=25607>)
and then reset X (ctrl-alt-backspace).  When I do this I get a blank
screen on both displays (the LCD and the VGA adapter) with a repeating
flicker every few seconds as if they are changing display modes.  The
LCD seems to be alternating between a text mode and a graphics mode,
since there is a visible blinking cursor half the time (exactly like a
blank vt).

My best guess is there is some sort of initialization failure
happening, and it keeps retrying.  If I unplug the USB VGA adapter
while this is occurring, it stops flickering and successfully starts X
(but without the second screen, of course).

Here is what I added to xorg.conf:
------------------
Section "Device"
	Identifier "Device1"
	VendorName "SiS"
	BoardName "SiS"
	Driver "sisusb"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier "Monitor1"
	VertRefresh 50-75
	HorizSync 30-90
	Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen1"
	Device "Device1"
	Monitor "Monitor1"
	DefaultDepth 16
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth 16
		Modes "1024x768"
	EndSubSection
EndSection
----------------

I also added this to the ServerLayout:
--------------
	Screen      1  "Screen1" 0 0
--------------


The last bit of Xorg.0.log looks like this:
--------------
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libshadow.so
(II) Module shadow: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 1.1.0
	ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(--) RandR disabled
(II) SISUSB(1): Setting standard mode 0x4a
(II) SISUSB(1): Framebuffer from (0,0) to (1023,7902)
(==) SISUSB(1): Backing store disabled
(**) Option "dpms"
(**) SISUSB(1): DPMS enabled
(II) SISUSB(1): Initialized SISCTRL extension version 0.1
(II) SISUSB(1): Registered screen 1 with SISCTRL extension version 0.1
(--) RandR disabled

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/Xorg(xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x812b8db]
1: /usr/bin/Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x51) [0x80bc911]
2: [0x130400]
3: /usr/bin/Xorg(xf86EnterServerState+0x54d) [0x80b14ad]
4: /usr/bin/Xorg(xf86PostScreenInit+0x213) [0x80b2b53]
5: /usr/bin/Xorg(InitOutput+0x335) [0x80a3d65]
6: /usr/bin/Xorg(main+0x279) [0x806b4e9]
7: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0x42e6d5]
8: /usr/bin/Xorg [0x806aad1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

(II) Screen 0 shares mem & io resources
(II) Screen 1 shares mem & io resources
-----------------------

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can try for this?

Thank you,
Terry



From jnansi at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 05:20:09 2008
From: jnansi at redhat.com (Jatin Nansi)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:09 +1000
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
Message-ID: <4907F289.8060102@redhat.com>

Hello all,
I received the XO yesterday, will be installing build 767 on it today. 
Then get involved with the power mgmt team.

Jatin Nansi



From fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu  Wed Oct 29 08:16:41 2008
From: fedora at shmuelhome.mine.nu (shmuel siegel)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:16:41 +0200
Subject: freecell crashes x while yum is running
In-Reply-To: <1225116265.8033.9.camel@rosebud>
References: <4905A5F2.8040609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>	<1225108823.8033.0.camel@rosebud>
	<4905C87E.7090609@shmuelhome.mine.nu>
	<1225116265.8033.9.camel@rosebud>
Message-ID: <49081BE9.1070801@shmuelhome.mine.nu>

seth vidal wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 15:56 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
>   
>> seth vidal wrote:
>>     
>>> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:28 +0200, shmuel siegel wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> As Red Skeleton was known to say, "I just do them, I don't explain 
>>>> them". I have noticed more than once that x freezes if I am playing 
>>>> freecell while running "sudo yum update" from a gnome terminal. I have 
>>>> not had X freeze in any other scenario. The symptoms of the freeze are:
>>>>
>>>>    1. yum is downloading at the time
>>>>    2. It happens while I am dragging a card - the motion freezesa
>>>>    3. The mouse still moves but none of the rollovers do anything and
>>>>       clicking doesn't have any effect
>>>>    4. The keyboard doesn't have any effect. Not even ctrl-alt-del,
>>>>       ctrl-alt-f2, or ctrl-alt-backspace
>>>>    5. The gnome monitor panel applet freezes
>>>>    6. ssh works. I can log in from another machine
>>>>    7. /sbin/init 3 doesn't do anything
>>>>
>>>> I am running F10 rawhide on a Dell Latitude D620 - integrated Intel 
>>>> graphics chip. 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> How much memory do you have in the system?
>>>
>>> -sv
>>>   
>>>       
>> One Gig of ram  and at least 6 gig free on vars partition. If it happens 
>> again I check how ram is used.
>>     
>
> and type 'dmesg' and look for OOM or Out-of-Memory in the output.
>
> -sv
>
>   
Sorry I took so long, but the problem had to occur again before I could 
post anything. It should be noted that the system is still running and 
the disk drive is accessible.
No out of memory messages but I do have the following entries, probably 
relevant.
> ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
> ata2.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0
>          cdb 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>          res 51/20:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> ata2.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xa0)
> ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
> ata2.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0
>          cdb 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>          res 51/20:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x5 (timeout)
> ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
> ata2: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset
> ata2: soft resetting link
> ata2.00: configured for UDMA/25
> ata2: EH complete
> ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
> ata2.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0
>          cdb 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>          res 51/20:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
> ata2.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0
>          cdb 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>          res 51/04:01:01:60:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
> ata2.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0
>          cdb 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>          res 58/00:02:00:12:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x2 (HSM violation)
> ata2.00: status: { DRDY DRQ }
> ata2: soft resetting link
> ata2.00: configured for UDMA/25
> ata2: EH complete





From atodorov at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 11:26:46 2008
From: atodorov at redhat.com (Alexander Todorov)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:26:46 +0200
Subject: Received your XO?  Let us know!
In-Reply-To: <20081029043956.GC6521@magrathea.bne.redhat.com>
References: <20081029043956.GC6521@magrathea.bne.redhat.com>
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I hope to have everything including developer's key ready by Friday.

Regards,
Alexander.
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From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 12:42:49 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:42:49 -0400
Subject: XO: Random Findings
In-Reply-To: <1225252618.18380.38.camel@Q>
References: <1225252618.18380.38.camel@Q>
Message-ID: <1225284169.13184.43.camel@aglarond.local>

On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 23:56 -0400, Adam D. Ligas wrote:
> On the display side of things, most of the fonts seem to be chopped in
> half and some buttons appear blacked out.  I can't seem to predict when
> either will occur, but both occur often.  Looked for settings to change
> the DPI as suggested, but I couldn't find any.

Terry's responses to this are reasonable and bugs are filed for these.
Please be sure to look at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=FedoraOnXO before filing/reporting problems to help reduce duplicates[1]

> Gave "Cheese" a try with the built in camera.  Appears to function
> normally, though it is pretty slow to initialize the camera and get it
> displayed on screen.  Effects work, but cause a significant delay in the
> refresh rate.  Maybe being CPU limited here?

Almost certainly.  433 mhz isn't a lot for the real time image
manipulation that cheese is doing :)

> I was going to play with some audio but my initial testing ended here
> with Power Management.  Basically, the XO just died :).  Fedora didn't
> detect it was running on a battery, and so I received no alert that the
> battery was low, and it just ran out of juice.

We should be getting battery status as of yesterday's rawhide[2] so
hopefully this should be a little better.  We still won't, and at this
point aren't targeting for F10, have suspend support for handling that
situation

Jeremy

[1] And as a corollary, make sure that bugs you file are set to block
the FedoraOnXO bug
[2] Next "official" image set will be the Preview release.  But you can
always build your own images with livecd-creator against rawhide for
those that want to be on the edgier edge



From rich.sharples at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 13:36:40 2008
From: rich.sharples at redhat.com (Rich Sharples)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:36:40 -0400
Subject: XO Performance Team meeting
In-Reply-To: <1729606627.4467751225242382989.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1729606627.4467751225242382989.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <490866E8.3030807@redhat.com>

Josh Bressers wrote:
> So we had the first XO Performance Team meeting.  Given we have a pretty defined
> scope, there wasn't a ton to talk about.
>
> I updated the wiki page with our high level goals:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance
>
> Right now, the plan is this:
>   lmacken is going to look at some kernel foo I don't understand.
>   mrhodes Is going to look at the services.
>   We could still stand someone looking at the gnome bits
>   and how to make firefox more usable.
>   
Unfortunately I missed the meeting but I'll spend some time seeing what 
can be done to slim down FF

- Rich
>   I'll deal with some image creation things.
>
> So any other team members who weren't around, feel free to grab a task, fill in
> the wiki with more details, or start discussion on the mailing list.
>
>   


-- 
Rich Sharples
JBoss, a division of Red Hat Inc.

m : +1 919 265 9099
o : +1 919 754 4174

http://blog.softwhere.org



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Wed Oct 29 13:49:22 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:49:22 -0600
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <385866f0810281116v6380cb14g4c893b847337bdfd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<db64ccf0810280719v673c979n29aff26e70fadb4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<778179b00810280726i1436578cuee941ac2fc2b525d@mail.gmail.com>
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	<385866f0810281116v6380cb14g4c893b847337bdfd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1225288162.3561.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Here are the answers to your questions (inserted below)...

Cheers,

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Muayyad AlSadi <alsadi at gmail.com>
Reply-to: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
<fedora-test-list at redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:16:11 +0300

to trace the problem I think we need to know
are you using spanshot 3
 --Yes! The problem with consistency on both the Live CD and the DVD install.

do you have every thing update to the latest rawhide
 --Yes! This has NOT made a difference at all.

do you have nvidia 177 driver from rpmfusion
 --No! I don't install the proprietary nVidia drivers from RPM Fusion
(Livna) on pre-release versions of F10. Also, I have reproduced the
problem using both nVidia and ATI chipsets. That would lead me to
believe this isn't just an nVidia problem.

BTW: I've only tested F10 on qemu-kvm and plymouth worked in text mode only




From bressers at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 14:39:14 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:39:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO Performance Team meeting
In-Reply-To: <490866E8.3030807@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <204771160.4625771225291154315.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>


----- "Rich Sharples" <rich.sharples at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately I missed the meeting but I'll spend some time seeing
> what can be done to slim down FF

You may want to use this as a good starting point:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_(Firefox)

Thanks!

-- 
    JB



From sandeen at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 14:48:12 2008
From: sandeen at redhat.com (Eric Sandeen)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:48:12 -0500
Subject: XO Performance Team meeting
In-Reply-To: <1729606627.4467751225242382989.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1729606627.4467751225242382989.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <490877AC.2030609@redhat.com>

Josh Bressers wrote:
> So we had the first XO Performance Team meeting.  Given we have a pretty defined
> scope, there wasn't a ton to talk about.
> 
> I updated the wiki page with our high level goals:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/XO_Performance
> 
> Right now, the plan is this:
>   lmacken is going to look at some kernel foo I don't understand.
>   mrhodes Is going to look at the services.
>   We could still stand someone looking at the gnome bits
>   and how to make firefox more usable.
>   I'll deal with some image creation things.
> 
> So any other team members who weren't around, feel free to grab a task, fill in
> the wiki with more details, or start discussion on the mailing list.

So, I was also going to do some boot-time testing, look into some other
filesystem & IO ideas, but... my XO is constantly locking up, with
various BUG()s and WARN_ON()s and just plain silent death.  I'm still
trying to get a serial console to work on the usb port, but... are
others seeing this?  Maybe I need to test my memory or something....

-Eric



From johannbg at hi.is  Wed Oct 29 14:52:02 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:52:02 +0000
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <1225288162.3561.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>	<db64ccf0810280719v673c979n29aff26e70fadb4f@mail.gmail.com>	<778179b00810280726i1436578cuee941ac2fc2b525d@mail.gmail.com>	<db64ccf0810280728v4cb1207k18445f586ac6d4ff@mail.gmail.com>	<1225205595.26404.8.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>	<385866f0810281116v6380cb14g4c893b847337bdfd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225288162.3561.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <49087892.50603@hi.is>

First of all
Nvidia does not work and so far and there is nothing that indicates it 
will work in the near future.

Intel Graphics cards did not make it into F10 in time but will be pushed 
A) as an update  B) It will be in F11 

ATI cards are supported but there has been issue with some cards but 
these issue are being fixed as each day passes.

With your T400 make sure that you have changed these bios settings..

You have Change to Internal or ATI Graphics with...
Config --> Display --> Graphics Device --> [Integrated graphics]( INTEL 
) or [Discrete Graphics](ATI)

And

Disable OS Detection for Switchable Graphics.
Otherwise it will mysteriously switch back to Switchable Graphics.

Then check if plymouth works with the default (radeon) driver being in 
use by X

JBG

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From bruno at wolff.to  Wed Oct 29 15:01:52 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:01:52 -0500
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <49087892.50603@hi.is>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 14:52:02 +0000,
  "\"J?hann B. Gu?mundsson\"" <johannbg at hi.is> wrote:
>
> ATI cards are supported but there has been issue with some cards but  
> these issue are being fixed as each day passes.

I haven't seen a glitch on my r530 based card in the last couple of days. KMS
has had a huge improvement in the last two weeks.



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Wed Oct 29 16:23:03 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:23:03 -0600
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <49087892.50603@hi.is>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<db64ccf0810280719v673c979n29aff26e70fadb4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<778179b00810280726i1436578cuee941ac2fc2b525d@mail.gmail.com>
	<db64ccf0810280728v4cb1207k18445f586ac6d4ff@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225205595.26404.8.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
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	<1225288162.3561.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49087892.50603@hi.is>
Message-ID: <1225297383.11936.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:52 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> First of all
> Nvidia does not work and so far and there is nothing that indicates it 
> will work in the near future.

Truly a bummer! Given the large number of nVidia card users there are, I
would think this should be more of a priority. Please don't let this
turn into a philosophical discussion (aka a flame fest) on nVidia vs.
others. A lot of people use nVidia cards - we need to deal with that and
respond to the end user population accordingly...

> Intel Graphics cards did not make it into F10 in time but will be pushed 
> A) as an update  B) It will be in F11 
> 
> ATI cards are supported but there has been issue with some cards but 
> these issue are being fixed as each day passes.
> 
> With your T400 make sure that you have changed these bios settings..
> 
> You have Change to Internal or ATI Graphics with...
> Config --> Display --> Graphics Device --> [Integrated graphics]( INTEL 
> ) or [Discrete Graphics](ATI)
> 
> And
> 
> Disable OS Detection for Switchable Graphics.
> Otherwise it will mysteriously switch back to Switchable Graphics.
> 
> Then check if plymouth works with the default (radeon) driver being in 
> use by X

I already had to do this just to get F10 Snap 3 even to install and have
video of any kind show up. Still not working. I guess I'll keep
following the updates and we'll see when we catch up.

Cheers,

Chris





From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 29 16:28:06 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:58:06 +0530
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <1225297383.11936.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>	<db64ccf0810280719v673c979n29aff26e70fadb4f@mail.gmail.com>	<778179b00810280726i1436578cuee941ac2fc2b525d@mail.gmail.com>	<db64ccf0810280728v4cb1207k18445f586ac6d4ff@mail.gmail.com>	<1225205595.26404.8.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>	<385866f0810281116v6380cb14g4c893b847337bdfd@mail.gmail.com>	<1225288162.3561.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<49087892.50603@hi.is>
	<1225297383.11936.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <49088F16.3090205@fedoraproject.org>

Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:52 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>> First of all
>> Nvidia does not work and so far and there is nothing that indicates it 
>> will work in the near future.
> 
> Truly a bummer! Given the large number of nVidia card users there are, I
> would think this should be more of a priority. Please don't let this
> turn into a philosophical discussion (aka a flame fest) on nVidia vs.
> others. A lot of people use nVidia cards - we need to deal with that and
> respond to the end user population accordingly...

Not philosophical. Just a matter of not having the source code to fix 
the proprietary drivers. However the reverse engineering effort can 
yield some results albeit in a delayed manner. Refer

http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/

Rahul



From schaiba at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 16:34:17 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:34:17 +0200
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <49088F16.3090205@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<db64ccf0810280719v673c979n29aff26e70fadb4f@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram
<sundaram at fedoraproject.org>wrote:

> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:52 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>>
>>> First of all
>>> Nvidia does not work and so far and there is nothing that indicates it
>>> will work in the near future.
>>>
>>
>> Truly a bummer! Given the large number of nVidia card users there are, I
>> would think this should be more of a priority. Please don't let this
>> turn into a philosophical discussion (aka a flame fest) on nVidia vs.
>> others. A lot of people use nVidia cards - we need to deal with that and
>> respond to the end user population accordingly...
>>
>
> Not philosophical. Just a matter of not having the source code to fix the
> proprietary drivers. However the reverse engineering effort can yield some
> results albeit in a delayed manner. Refer
>
>
> http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
>
> Rahul
>
>
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>


If I append "vga=0x318" to my kernel options in menu.lst for example, i can
see the nice plymouth effects (GeForce 8500 GTS) So would it hurt if we
would add this option as the default in grub as a (temporary) workaround?
Are there cards that don't scale well with "vga=0x318" ?
-- 
Aioanei Rares
schaiba at fedoraproject.org
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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 29 16:42:51 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:12:51 +0530
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <778179b00810290934xc69cb1cgda7d411596e37336@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>	<db64ccf0810280719v673c979n29aff26e70fadb4f@mail.gmail.com>	<778179b00810280726i1436578cuee941ac2fc2b525d@mail.gmail.com>	<db64ccf0810280728v4cb1207k18445f586ac6d4ff@mail.gmail.com>	<1225205595.26404.8.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>	<385866f0810281116v6380cb14g4c893b847337bdfd@mail.gmail.com>	<1225288162.3561.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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Aioanei Rares wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram 

>     http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
> 
> 
> If I append "vga=0x318" to my kernel options in menu.lst for example, i 
> can see the nice plymouth effects (GeForce 8500 GTS) So would it hurt if 
> we would add this option as the default in grub as a (temporary) 
> workaround? Are there cards that don't scale well with "vga=0x318" ?

Yes. The above interview does mention why it is not supported. If we are 
going with that solution, we might as well as have used splashy.

Rahul



From michal at harddata.com  Wed Oct 29 17:00:18 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:00:18 -0600
Subject: Is Gnome windown manager switching broken again?
Message-ID: <20081029170018.GA21977@mail.harddata.com>

Trying on a rawhide installation 'man gnome-wm', which is supplied by
gnome-session-2.24.1-3.fc10, you can read the following:

NAME
       gnome-wm  -  Launches  the  user  selected window manager for the
       GNOME session

The catch is none what is described down this page seems to be true.

If you will look at /usr/bin/gnome-wm script then you can find in it
the following:

# NOTE: DON'T USE THIS.  Please have your window manager install
# a desktop file and change the gconf key
# /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager

That gconf key used to be /apps/gnome-session/rh/window_manager and
that worked, even if 'man gnome-wm' was telling fairy tales.  With
/desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager the best
I could achieve was a session with no window manager at all.  I tried
some interpretations of an "install a desktop file" remark but this
got me nowhere.

There are hacks to get another window manager running.  For example,
you can put early enough in $PATH a link, named 'metacity', to a
desired window manager binaries.  In case some option mapping would be
required then this link should be replaced by an appropriate shell
script but you get the drift.  So you can have any windown manager
you want as long as it is _called_ "metacity".

Is this un-documented somewhere and I missed it or this is a straight
bugzilla material?  A Google search brought me only numerous tales of
woe from people attempting switch window managers for Gnome and
miserably failing.

  Michal

p.s. For "again" part check https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449048



From chriswfedora at cawllc.com  Wed Oct 29 17:45:48 2008
From: chriswfedora at cawllc.com (Christopher A. Williams)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:45:48 -0600
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <778179b00810290934xc69cb1cgda7d411596e37336@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
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	<385866f0810281116v6380cb14g4c893b847337bdfd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225288162.3561.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49087892.50603@hi.is>
	<1225297383.11936.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<49088F16.3090205@fedoraproject.org>
	<778179b00810290934xc69cb1cgda7d411596e37336@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1225302348.3976.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 18:34 +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram
> <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>         Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>                 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:52 +0000, "J?hann B.
>                 Gu?mundsson" wrote:
>                         First of all
>                         Nvidia does not work and so far and there is
>                         nothing that indicates it will work in the
>                         near future.
>                 
>                 Truly a bummer! Given the large number of nVidia card
>                 users there are, I
>                 would think this should be more of a priority. Please
>                 don't let this
>                 turn into a philosophical discussion (aka a flame
>                 fest) on nVidia vs.
>                 others. A lot of people use nVidia cards - we need to
>                 deal with that and
>                 respond to the end user population accordingly...
>         
>         
>         Not philosophical. Just a matter of not having the source code
>         to fix the proprietary drivers. However the reverse
>         engineering effort can yield some results albeit in a delayed
>         manner. Refer 
>         
>         
>         http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/

<snip...>
> 
> If I append "vga=0x318" to my kernel options in menu.lst for example,
> i can see the nice plymouth effects (GeForce 8500 GTS) So would it
> hurt if we would add this option as the default in grub as a
> (temporary) workaround? Are there cards that don't scale well with
> "vga=0x318" ?

Interesting... I just tried appending "vga=0x318" to my kernel options.
It didn't work outright, but...

...It DID error out and give me a list of scanned VGA options. I
selected one of them at random (vga=0x323) and "Graphical Plymouth" came
to life in all its glory.

Given the other feedback, this seems to also work for nVidia cards.

So, why COULDN't we  have Plymouth (or a set of appropriate kernel
options) do something like:
1) scan for an appropriate and usable VESA mode for these cards
2) Upon discovering there's a really nice one we can use, go with that
one
3) Then fail back to text mode only after nothing available in a
reasonable VESA mode works.

Solves the problem from what I can tell...

Cheers,

Chris





From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 19:14:26 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:14:26 -0600
Subject: Repairing a mount configuration problem
Message-ID: <geacmk$39h$1@ger.gmane.org>

I recently made some changes with the partitions on my system and neglected to update fstab. As the system booted, a message appeared, stating I could:

1. type Ctrl-D to continue (I tried that, and it caused the computer to reboot and stop anew at the same problem - not very useful); or

2. type the root password to fix the problem.

Upon trying the second method, the system logged me in, but I was unable to fix anything because the partitions were mounted read only. This is also not useful.

How am I supposed to fix the problem (I knew exactly what it was) when I am barred from changing anything?



From schaiba at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 19:25:12 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:25:12 +0200
Subject: Repairing a mount configuration problem
In-Reply-To: <geacmk$39h$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <geacmk$39h$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4908B898.3020806@gmail.com>

Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> I recently made some changes with the partitions on my system and neglected to update fstab. As the system booted, a message appeared, stating I could:
>
> 1. type Ctrl-D to continue (I tried that, and it caused the computer to reboot and stop anew at the same problem - not very useful); or
>
> 2. type the root password to fix the problem.
>
> Upon trying the second method, the system logged me in, but I was unable to fix anything because the partitions were mounted read only. This is also not useful.
>
> How am I supposed to fix the problem (I knew exactly what it was) when I am barred from changing anything?
>
>   
mount -rw (man mount is even better ;)



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 19:52:16 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:22:16 -0430
Subject: Repairing a mount configuration problem
In-Reply-To: <4908B898.3020806@gmail.com>
References: <geacmk$39h$1@ger.gmane.org>  <4908B898.3020806@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1225309936.16880.4.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 21:25 +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> > I recently made some changes with the partitions on my system and neglected to update fstab. As the system booted, a message appeared, stating I could:
> >
> > 1. type Ctrl-D to continue (I tried that, and it caused the computer to reboot and stop anew at the same problem - not very useful); or
> >
> > 2. type the root password to fix the problem.
> >
> > Upon trying the second method, the system logged me in, but I was unable to fix anything because the partitions were mounted read only. This is also not useful.
> >
> > How am I supposed to fix the problem (I knew exactly what it was) when I am barred from changing anything?
> >
> >   
> mount -rw (man mount is even better ;)

mount -o remount,rw ...

is probably better if the fs is already mounted.

poc



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:05:28 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:05:28 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
Message-ID: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>

Ok... this is probably a dumb question. I booted up snap3. I opened a 
terminal, su -, and then installed ekiga. I selected shutdown from the 
menu, and it seemed to hang (not fully shutting down).

I reboot, log in, and there is no ekiga.

so.. who ate my rpms?

-- bk



From jonstanley at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 20:10:47 2008
From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:10:47 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
References: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <da159fda0810291310x6d10d889q1d16638907880c03@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:

> so.. who ate my rpms?

Stupid question - did you have an overlay?



From skvidal at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 29 20:12:06 2008
From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:12:06 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
References: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1225311126.21485.78.camel@rosebud>

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:05 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Ok... this is probably a dumb question. I booted up snap3. I opened a 
> terminal, su -, and then installed ekiga. I selected shutdown from the 
> menu, and it seemed to hang (not fully shutting down).
> 
> I reboot, log in, and there is no ekiga.
> 
> so.. who ate my rpms?
> 

You weren't using the livecd, right?

-sv




From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:08:57 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:08:57 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <da159fda0810291310x6d10d889q1d16638907880c03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
	<da159fda0810291310x6d10d889q1d16638907880c03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4908C2D9.2030606@redhat.com>

Jon Stanley wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Bryan Kearney <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> so.. who ate my rpms?
> 
> Stupid question - did you have an overlay?
> 
Yes.. this was the command I ran:

  ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --noverify --reset-mbr --xo --overlay-size-mb 
512 --swap-size-mb 256  F10-Snap2-i686-Live.iso /dev/sdb1


-- bk



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:11:16 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:11:16 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <1225311126.21485.78.camel@rosebud>
References: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com> <1225311126.21485.78.camel@rosebud>
Message-ID: <4908C364.2000807@redhat.com>

seth vidal wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:05 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> Ok... this is probably a dumb question. I booted up snap3. I opened a 
>> terminal, su -, and then installed ekiga. I selected shutdown from the 
>> menu, and it seemed to hang (not fully shutting down).
>>
>> I reboot, log in, and there is no ekiga.
>>
>> so.. who ate my rpms?
>>
> 
> You weren't using the livecd, right?

Not followng... I would have assumed this would have persistend on my SD 
card.

-- bk



From bressers at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:15:30 2008
From: bressers at redhat.com (Josh Bressers)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:15:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1647223375.4815121225311330136.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>

----- "Bryan Kearney" <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:
> Ok... this is probably a dumb question. I booted up snap3. I opened a
> 
> terminal, su -, and then installed ekiga. I selected shutdown from the
> 
> menu, and it seemed to hang (not fully shutting down).
> 
> I reboot, log in, and there is no ekiga.
> 
> so.. who ate my rpms?
> 

Mount your SD card, then edit the boot/olpc.fth file, down at the bottom you'll
see a line that contains "reset_overlay" remove that option (don't remove
anything else).  It causes the overlay to reset itself on each boot.

-- 
    JB



From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:13:24 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:13:24 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <1647223375.4815121225311330136.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
References: <1647223375.4815121225311330136.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4908C3E4.2050900@redhat.com>

Josh Bressers wrote:
> ----- "Bryan Kearney" <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:
>> Ok... this is probably a dumb question. I booted up snap3. I opened a
>>
>> terminal, su -, and then installed ekiga. I selected shutdown from the
>>
>> menu, and it seemed to hang (not fully shutting down).
>>
>> I reboot, log in, and there is no ekiga.
>>
>> so.. who ate my rpms?
>>
> 
> Mount your SD card, then edit the boot/olpc.fth file, down at the bottom you'll
> see a line that contains "reset_overlay" remove that option (don't remove
> anything else).  It causes the overlay to reset itself on each boot.
> 

Was that a new option, becuase I have one package (cheese) which stays 
around.

-- bk




From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:17:01 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:17:01 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
References: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1225311421.13184.88.camel@aglarond.local>

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:05 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Ok... this is probably a dumb question. I booted up snap3. I opened a 
> terminal, su -, and then installed ekiga. I selected shutdown from the 
> menu, and it seemed to hang (not fully shutting down).
> 
> I reboot, log in, and there is no ekiga.
> 
> so.. who ate my rpms?

As mentioned in my blog (you are reading Fedora Planet and thus my blog,
right? :-), the current version of livecd-iso-to-disk is defaulting to
doing an overlay reset on every boot.  This is to help reduce the
likelihood of problems due to running out of space on the overlay since
we now keep /home on the nand and settings have pretty much entirely
moved to the homedir.

That said, I'll probably switch the default back so that we don't reset
the overlay on every boot for manual livecd-iso-to-disk runs, but I'm at
the same time leaning towards having the shipped SD cards with Fedora
preloaded set up as such.

Jeremy



From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:18:11 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:18:11 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <4908C3E4.2050900@redhat.com>
References: <1647223375.4815121225311330136.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<4908C3E4.2050900@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1225311491.13184.89.camel@aglarond.local>

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:13 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Josh Bressers wrote:
> > ----- "Bryan Kearney" <bkearney at redhat.com> wrote:
> >> Ok... this is probably a dumb question. I booted up snap3. I opened a
> >>
> >> terminal, su -, and then installed ekiga. I selected shutdown from the
> >>
> >> menu, and it seemed to hang (not fully shutting down).
> >>
> >> I reboot, log in, and there is no ekiga.
> >>
> >> so.. who ate my rpms?
> >>
> > 
> > Mount your SD card, then edit the boot/olpc.fth file, down at the bottom you'll
> > see a line that contains "reset_overlay" remove that option (don't remove
> > anything else).  It causes the overlay to reset itself on each boot.
> > 
> 
> Was that a new option, becuase I have one package (cheese) which stays 
> around.

cheese is in the default image I believe (or was)

Jeremy



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 29 20:21:19 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:51:19 +0530
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
 test!)
In-Reply-To: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>

Deepak Bhole wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> As some of you already know, we have been working on getting Liveconnect
> support into Fedora 10 via the new Iced Tea Plugin. Liveconnect is a 
> feature that allows JavaScript from a browser (Firefox) to access 
> Java, and vice-versa. The newest build of OpenJDK 
> (java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-2b12.fc10 --
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=907625) should have
> the latest of the plugin code. This will be in tomorrow's (2008-10-28)
> rawhide.

Can you check

http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/en/archive_lk08.htm

The video didn't used to work before but now I see it. Unfortunately I 
don't hear the audio yet. It uses a Java applet (the fluendo one) to do 
the streaming.

Rahul








From bpepple at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 29 20:34:00 2008
From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:34:00 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <1225311491.13184.89.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <1647223375.4815121225311330136.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
	<4908C3E4.2050900@redhat.com>
	<1225311491.13184.89.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <1225312440.31665.3.camel@kennedy>

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:18 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> 
> cheese is in the default image I believe (or was)

No your correct, cheese is still in the default image.

Later,
/B
-- 
Brian Pepple <bpepple at fedoraproject.org>

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple
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From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:31:19 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:31:19 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <1225311421.13184.88.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
	<1225311421.13184.88.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <4908C817.7050309@redhat.com>

Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:05 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> Ok... this is probably a dumb question. I booted up snap3. I opened a 
>> terminal, su -, and then installed ekiga. I selected shutdown from the 
>> menu, and it seemed to hang (not fully shutting down).
>>
>> I reboot, log in, and there is no ekiga.
>>
>> so.. who ate my rpms?
> 
> As mentioned in my blog (you are reading Fedora Planet and thus my blog,
> right? :-), 

Of course I am *cough* now

the current version of livecd-iso-to-disk is defaulting to
> doing an overlay reset on every boot.  This is to help reduce the
> likelihood of problems due to running out of space on the overlay since
> we now keep /home on the nand and settings have pretty much entirely
> moved to the homedir.
> 
> That said, I'll probably switch the default back so that we don't reset
> the overlay on every boot for manual livecd-iso-to-disk runs, but I'm at
> the same time leaning towards having the shipped SD cards with Fedora
> preloaded set up as such.

Seems an interesting trade off. If I want to install another program, I 
have to jump through a view more hoops. Which is easier to debug... out 
of space or overlay resetting?

-- bk




From bkearney at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:31:39 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:31:39 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <1225312440.31665.3.camel@kennedy>
References: <1647223375.4815121225311330136.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>	<4908C3E4.2050900@redhat.com>	<1225311491.13184.89.camel@aglarond.local>
	<1225312440.31665.3.camel@kennedy>
Message-ID: <4908C82B.808@redhat.com>

Brian Pepple wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:18 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
>> cheese is in the default image I believe (or was)
> 
> No your correct, cheese is still in the default image.
> 
> Later,
> /B
> 
Hmm.. could of sworn I had to install it at one point. Oh well.

-- bk



From dbhole at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:36:05 2008
From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:36:05 -0400
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
	test!)
In-Reply-To: <4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>

* Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> [2008-10-29 16:22]:
> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> As some of you already know, we have been working on getting Liveconnect
>> support into Fedora 10 via the new Iced Tea Plugin. Liveconnect is a 
>> feature that allows JavaScript from a browser (Firefox) to access Java, 
>> and vice-versa. The newest build of OpenJDK 
>> (java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-2b12.fc10 --
>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=907625) should have
>> the latest of the plugin code. This will be in tomorrow's (2008-10-28)
>> rawhide.
>
> Can you check
>
> http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/en/archive_lk08.htm
>
> The video didn't used to work before but now I see it. Unfortunately I 
> don't hear the audio yet. It uses a Java applet (the fluendo one) to do the 
> streaming.
>

I can hear the audio intermittently, but the console is spewing lots of
exceptions. Unfortunately, these are all in the applet's code, and the
plugin can't really do much to remedy that:

[Message]: Pad: a_queue:src [com.fluendo.plugin.Queue$1 at 169c398] type:
STREAM_STATUS, start, reason: ok, activating
java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -1
        at com.fluendo.jheora.Decode.ExtractToken(Decode.java:431)
        at com.fluendo.jheora.Decode.unpackAndExpandToken(Decode.java:442)
...
...

Try starting firefox with the environment variable ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true

It will show lots of debug info. If you can post that info, and the
/tmp/java.std{err,out} files (created when ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true),
that'd be very helpful in tracing the issue. Again though, if the issue
on your end happens to be the same as what I am seeing, there is really
nothing I can do -- only the authors of the applet code can remedy that :/

Deepak



From michal at harddata.com  Wed Oct 29 20:37:38 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:37:38 -0600
Subject: Repairing a mount configuration problem
In-Reply-To: <4908B898.3020806@gmail.com>
References: <geacmk$39h$1@ger.gmane.org> <4908B898.3020806@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081029203738.GA25816@mail.harddata.com>

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 09:25:12PM +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> >
> >... the system logged me in, but I was unable 
> >to fix anything because the partitions were mounted read only. This is 
> >also not useful.
> >
> >How am I supposed to fix the problem (I knew exactly what it was) when I 
> >am barred from changing anything?
> >
> mount -rw (man mount is even better ;)

Not precisely.  'mount -o rw,remount /'.

   M.



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Wed Oct 29 20:44:07 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:14:07 +0530
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
 test!)
In-Reply-To: <20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>

Deepak Bhole wrote:

> Try starting firefox with the environment variable ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true
> 
> It will show lots of debug info. If you can post that info, and the
> /tmp/java.std{err,out} files (created when ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true),
> that'd be very helpful in tracing the issue. Again though, if the issue
> on your end happens to be the same as what I am seeing, there is really
> nothing I can do -- only the authors of the applet code can remedy that :/

I did a

# export ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true

Starting firefox on the console doesn't get me any debug input nor do I 
see files written to /tmp.  What do I do?

Rahul



From dbhole at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:46:49 2008
From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:46:49 -0400
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
	test!)
In-Reply-To: <4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
	<4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20081029204649.GD1643@redhat.com>

* Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> [2008-10-29 16:45]:
> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>
>> Try starting firefox with the environment variable ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true
>>
>> It will show lots of debug info. If you can post that info, and the
>> /tmp/java.std{err,out} files (created when ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true),
>> that'd be very helpful in tracing the issue. Again though, if the issue
>> on your end happens to be the same as what I am seeing, there is really
>> nothing I can do -- only the authors of the applet code can remedy that :/
>
> I did a
>
> # export ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true
>
> Starting firefox on the console doesn't get me any debug input nor do I see 
> files written to /tmp.  What do I do?
>

Are there any other copies of firefox running? You need to make sure all
instances are closed. Once that is confirmed, doing
'ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox' on the console should produce debug
output.

Deepak

> Rahul



From katzj at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 20:45:52 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:45:52 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <4908C817.7050309@redhat.com>
References: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
	<1225311421.13184.88.camel@aglarond.local>
	<4908C817.7050309@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1225313152.13184.92.camel@aglarond.local>

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:31 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:05 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> >> Ok... this is probably a dumb question. I booted up snap3. I opened a 
> >> terminal, su -, and then installed ekiga. I selected shutdown from the 
> >> menu, and it seemed to hang (not fully shutting down).
> >>
> >> I reboot, log in, and there is no ekiga.
> >>
> >> so.. who ate my rpms?
> > 
> > As mentioned in my blog (you are reading Fedora Planet and thus my blog,
> > right? :-), 
> 
> Of course I am *cough* now
> 
> the current version of livecd-iso-to-disk is defaulting to
> > doing an overlay reset on every boot.  This is to help reduce the
> > likelihood of problems due to running out of space on the overlay since
> > we now keep /home on the nand and settings have pretty much entirely
> > moved to the homedir.
> > 
> > That said, I'll probably switch the default back so that we don't reset
> > the overlay on every boot for manual livecd-iso-to-disk runs, but I'm at
> > the same time leaning towards having the shipped SD cards with Fedora
> > preloaded set up as such.
> 
> Seems an interesting trade off. If I want to install another program, I 
> have to jump through a view more hoops. Which is easier to debug... out 
> of space or overlay resetting?

Out of space in the overlay manifests itself with weird hangs and
non-obvious problems on boot.  Overlay resetting is at least relatively
straight-forward :)

Jeremy



From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Wed Oct 29 22:47:48 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:47:48 +0100
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
 test!)
In-Reply-To: <20081029204649.GD1643@redhat.com>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>	<20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>	<4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029204649.GD1643@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4908E814.1040007@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Deepak Bhole wrote:

> Are there any other copies of firefox running? You need to make sure all
> instances are closed. Once that is confirmed, doing
> 'ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox' on the console should produce debug
> output.

Starting it with ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox buffers to 100%, spits 
out a second or so of sound then crashes with a segmentation fault. 
Below is the output in the console (warning: quite a lot of lines). I 
have also attached java.stderr and java.stdout. This is on a x86_64 
laptop with current Rawhide.

[patrick at localhost ~]$ ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::IcedTeaPluginFactory
CONSTRUCTING FACTORY
ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG = true
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::IcedTeaPluginFactory return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::Initialize
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::Initialize: using 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/lib/amd64/../../bin/java
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: thread manager
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: current thread
Initializing JVM...
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: get component manager
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: liveconnect
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: thread manager
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::StartAppletviewer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: get component manager
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: create local file
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: init with path
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: create process
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: init process
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: clearing old input fifo (if any): 
/home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-appletviewer-to-plugin
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: creating input fifo: 
/home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-appletviewer-to-plugin
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: created input fifo: 
/home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-appletviewer-to-plugin
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: got confirmation that appletviewer is running
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: clearing old output fifo (if any): 
/home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-plugin-to-appletviewer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: creating output fifo: 
/home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-plugin-to-appletviewer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: created output fifo: 
/home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-plugin-to-appletviewer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: run process
Listening for transport dt_socket at address: 8787
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::StartAppletviewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: started appletviewer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::Initialize return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::CreateSecureEnv
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IcedTeaJNIEnv
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IcedTeaJNIEnv return
CREATESECUREENV
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::CreateSecureEnv return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::CreateInstance
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::IcedTeaPluginInstance
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::IcedTeaPluginInstance return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::CreateInstance return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::Initialize
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: instance 1 tag 
http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/events/lk08/archive/jbottomley/player.htm 
<applet archive="/global/cortado.jar" 
code="com.fluendo.player.Cortado.class" mayscript="" height="288" 
width="368">      <param name="url" 
value="http://streaming.linux-magazin.de:8080/lk08/jbottomley.ogg"> 
  <param name="local" value="false">      <param name="video" 
value="true">      <param name="audio" value="true">      <param 
name="seekable" value="true">      <param name="duration" value="3717"> 
   <param name="debug" value="1">      <param name="callback" 
value="update">      <param name="bufferSize" value="300">  <param 
name="showStatus" value="show">	  <param name="keepAspect" value="true"> 
    </applet></embed>
Wrote 724 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
SETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
DONE SETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::Initialize return
NOT IMPLEMENTED: virtual nsresult IcedTeaPluginInstance::Start()
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue return
GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
DONE GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20, 0x7f60a9affd20
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::GetValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::GetValue return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: setting window.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: instance 1 handle 75500539
Wrote 27 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetJavaObject
IcedTeaPluginInstance::GetJavaObject: Instance 0x7f60a9890d60 waiting 
for initialization...
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
IcedTeaPluginInstance::SetWindow: Instance 0x7f60a9890d60 waiting for 
initialization...
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: instance 1 status starting applet...
   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 status starting applet...
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: instance 1 status starting applet...
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
Pending event processed (this) ... 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: instance 1 status Applet loaded.
   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 status Applet loaded.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: instance 1 status Applet loaded.
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
Pending event processed (this) ... 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: instance 1 status Applet initialized.
   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 status Applet initialized.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: instance 1 status Applet initialized.
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
Pending event processed (this) ... 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: instance 1 initialized
   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 initialized
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: instance 1 initialized
Setting instance.initialized for 0x7f60a9890d60 from 0 to 1...
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
Instance 0x7f60a9890d60 initialization complete...
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window width changed.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window height changed.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: instance 1 width 368 height 288
Wrote 32 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
Instance 0x7f60a9890d60 initialization complete...
Sending object message: instance 1 reference 0 GetJavaObject
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: instance 1 reference 0 GetJavaObject
Wrote 37 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 0 GetJavaObject 51
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 0 GetJavaObject 51
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 0 GetJavaObject 51
Time elapsed = 471121
Patrsed integer: 51
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: instance 1 status Applet started.
   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 status Applet started.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: instance 1 status Applet started.
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
Pending event processed (this) ... 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
GOT JAVA OBJECT IDENTIFIER: 51
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 51 0x7f60a97e6af0
INCREMENTED: 51 0x7f60a97e6af0 to: 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetJavaObject return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ResultMap 0x7f60abd2f650 created for reference 2 found = 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSObject
Wrote 61 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 1
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 1
Time elapsed = 5854
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 1
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
RECEIVE 3
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 1 0x7f60a97da770
INCREMENTED: 1 0x7f60a97da770 to: 1
RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a97da770 = 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
Wrote 37 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
Time elapsed = 1918
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 1
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
RECEIVE 3
INCREMENTED: 1 0x7f60a97da770 to: 2
RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97da770 = 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ResultMap 0x7f60a97da720 created for reference -1 found = 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 1
Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 
netscape/javascript/JSException
Wrote 64 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 2
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 2
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 2
Time elapsed = 3806
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 2
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
RECEIVE 3
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 2 0x7f60a9f1a860
INCREMENTED: 2 0x7f60a9f1a860 to: 1
RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a9f1a860 = 2
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
Wrote 37 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
Time elapsed = 2697
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 2
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
RECEIVE 3
INCREMENTED: 2 0x7f60a9f1a860 to: 2
RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a9f1a860 = 2
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 2
Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSUtil
Wrote 59 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 11
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 11
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 11
Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Time elapsed = 3356
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 11
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
RECEIVE 3
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 11 0x7f60a9ad2e20
INCREMENTED: 11 0x7f60a9ad2e20 to: 1
RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a9ad2e20 = 11
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
Time elapsed = 1771
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 11
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
RECEIVE 3
INCREMENTED: 11 0x7f60a9ad2e20 to: 2
RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a9ad2e20 = 11
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 11
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> 
(Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE ID 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 3
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 3
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 3
Time elapsed = 2367
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 3
Processing complete
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JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 3 0x7f60a97e6bc0
JNIID CONSTRUCT: 3 0x7f60a97e6bc0
RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97e6bc0 = 3, 
(Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> 
(ILjava/lang/Object;)V
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE ID 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 4
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 4
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 4
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 4
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GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 30
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Array
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 34
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 34
Time elapsed = 1031
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 34
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 34 0x7f60a987f7a0
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RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a987f7a0 = 34
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 34
Time elapsed = 860
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 34
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Throwable
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 36
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 36
Time elapsed = 1078
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 36
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 36 0x7f60a97e8380
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
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RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 36
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/System
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RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 39
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 39
Time elapsed = 983
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 39
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 39 0x7f60a97e8400
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
Time elapsed = 863
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 39
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Boolean
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RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 41
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 41
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 41
Time elapsed = 973
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 41
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 41 0x7f60a97e8480
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
Time elapsed = 855
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 41
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
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RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97e8480 = 41
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Double
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 44
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 44
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 44
Time elapsed = 1133
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 44
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 44 0x7f60a987f9c0
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RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a987f9c0 = 44
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
Time elapsed = 1010
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 44
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
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RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a987f9c0 = 44
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/String
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 49
Time elapsed = 1067
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 49
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 49
Processing complete
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RECEIVE 3
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Void
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 47
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 47
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 47
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 47
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 47 0x7f60a97d9c40
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 47
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RECEIVE 3
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/applet/Applet
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
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Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 50
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 50
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 50
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()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Constructor;
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JNIID CONSTRUCT: 24 0x7f60a97dcab0
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JNIID CONSTRUCT: 46 0x7f60a97e9360
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
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GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 52
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received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
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received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 54
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received message: context 0 reference 2 ExceptionOccurred 0
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PLUGIN GOT RETURN UTF-8 STRING: com.fluendo.player.Cortado
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received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 53
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Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
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GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 53
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RECEIVE VALUE 1
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Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod false
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received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod false
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Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 21
Wrote 109 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE VALUE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 1
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 1
Time elapsed = 1114
PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 1
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallMethod return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53
Wrote 118 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE VALUE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
Time elapsed = 1070
PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 1468735375
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IsInstanceOf
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 51 1
Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE BOOLEAN 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 0
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 0
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 0
Time elapsed = 782
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 0
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IsInstanceOf return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 51
Wrote 118 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE VALUE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 503262747
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 503262747
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 503262747
Time elapsed = 1052
PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 503262747
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53
Wrote 118 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE VALUE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
Time elapsed = 1014
PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 1468735375
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
Time elapsed = 814
Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 51
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
RECEIVE 3
INCREMENTED: 51 0x7f60a97e6af0 to: 2
RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97e6af0 = 51
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 53
Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: instance 1 GetWindow
   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 GetWindow
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: instance 1 GetWindow
GetWindow instance: -1450635936
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
HERE 22: 0
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: get component manager
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: thread manager
HERE 23: 0, 0x255be70
GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
DONE GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20, 0x7f60a9affd20
GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
DONE GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20, 0x7f60a9affd20
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: get window
HERE 24: -1451537664
HERE 20: -1451537664
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 JavaScriptGetWindow -1451537664
Wrote 42 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: instance 0 Call -1451537664 55 56
   PIPE: plugin read: instance 0 Call -1451537664 55 56
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: instance 0 Call -1451537664 55 56
POSTING Call
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse javascript id
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse method name id
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse args id
POSTING Call DONE
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
BEFORE GETTING NAMESTRING
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 55 0x7f60a7e18e30
INCREMENTED: 55 0x7f60a7e18e30 to: 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringLength
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 55
Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE SIZE 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 6
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 6
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 6
Time elapsed = 3529
PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 6
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringLength return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringChars
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 55
Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
RECEIVE STRING UCS 1
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 12 75 0 70 0 64 0 
61 0 74 0 65 0
   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 12 75 0 70 0 
64 0 61 0 74 0 65 0
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 12 75 0 70 0 64 0 
61 0 74 0 65 0
Time elapsed = 4543
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
PLUGIN GOT RETURN UTF-16 STRING: 12: update??????
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringChars return
AFTER GETTING NAMESTRING
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 56 0x7f60a9af1350
INCREMENTED: 56 0x7f60a9af1350 to: 1
CALL: -1451537664, 6
/usr/lib64/firefox-3.0.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  6485 Segmentation 
fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[patrick at localhost ~]$




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From dbhole at redhat.com  Wed Oct 29 22:58:17 2008
From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:58:17 -0400
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
	test!)
In-Reply-To: <4908E814.1040007@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
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Message-ID: <20081029225815.GB12044@redhat.com>

* Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-29 18:48]:
> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>
>> Are there any other copies of firefox running? You need to make sure all
>> instances are closed. Once that is confirmed, doing
>> 'ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox' on the console should produce debug
>> output.
>

Ah, that segfault was a nasty 64-bit-only bug. Which version of the openjdk 
rpm are you using? I fixed that issue in the latest build here:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=67796

Please try it again with that one.. for some reason it has no hit
rawhide yet even though it was built 2 days ago.

Deepak

> Starting it with ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox buffers to 100%, spits 
> out a second or so of sound then crashes with a segmentation fault. Below 
> is the output in the console (warning: quite a lot of lines). I have also 
> attached java.stderr and java.stdout. This is on a x86_64 laptop with 
> current Rawhide.
>
> [patrick at localhost ~]$ ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::IcedTeaPluginFactory
> CONSTRUCTING FACTORY
> ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG = true
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::IcedTeaPluginFactory return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::Initialize
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::Initialize: using 
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64/jre/lib/amd64/../../bin/java
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: thread manager
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: current thread
> Initializing JVM...
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: get component manager
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: liveconnect
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: thread manager
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::StartAppletviewer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: get component manager
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: create local file
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: init with path
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: create process
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: init process
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: clearing old input fifo (if any): 
> /home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-appletviewer-to-plugin
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: creating input fifo: 
> /home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-appletviewer-to-plugin
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: created input fifo: 
> /home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-appletviewer-to-plugin
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: got confirmation that appletviewer is running
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: clearing old output fifo (if any): 
> /home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-plugin-to-appletviewer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: creating output fifo: 
> /home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-plugin-to-appletviewer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: created output fifo: 
> /home/patrick/.icedteaplugin/icedtea-plugin-to-appletviewer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: run process
> Listening for transport dt_socket at address: 8787
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::StartAppletviewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: started appletviewer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::Initialize return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::CreateSecureEnv
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IcedTeaJNIEnv
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IcedTeaJNIEnv return
> CREATESECUREENV
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::CreateSecureEnv return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::CreateInstance
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::IcedTeaPluginInstance
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::IcedTeaPluginInstance return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::CreateInstance return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::Initialize
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: instance 1 tag 
> http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/events/lk08/archive/jbottomley/player.htm 
> <applet archive="/global/cortado.jar" 
> code="com.fluendo.player.Cortado.class" mayscript="" height="288" 
> width="368">      <param name="url" 
> value="http://streaming.linux-magazin.de:8080/lk08/jbottomley.ogg">  <param 
> name="local" value="false">      <param name="video" value="true">      
> <param name="audio" value="true">      <param name="seekable" value="true"> 
>      <param name="duration" value="3717">   <param name="debug" value="1">  
>     <param name="callback" value="update">      <param name="bufferSize" 
> value="300">  <param name="showStatus" value="show">	  <param 
> name="keepAspect" value="true">    </applet></embed>
> Wrote 724 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> SETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
> DONE SETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::Initialize return
> NOT IMPLEMENTED: virtual nsresult IcedTeaPluginInstance::Start()
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue return
> GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
> DONE GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20, 0x7f60a9affd20
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::GetValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Factory::GetValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: setting window.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: instance 1 handle 75500539
> Wrote 27 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetJavaObject
> IcedTeaPluginInstance::GetJavaObject: Instance 0x7f60a9890d60 waiting for 
> initialization...
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
> IcedTeaPluginInstance::SetWindow: Instance 0x7f60a9890d60 waiting for 
> initialization...
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: instance 1 status starting applet...
>   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 status starting applet...
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: instance 1 status starting applet...
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> Pending event processed (this) ... 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: instance 1 status Applet loaded.
>   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 status Applet loaded.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: instance 1 status Applet loaded.
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> Pending event processed (this) ... 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: instance 1 status Applet initialized.
>   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 status Applet initialized.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: instance 1 status Applet initialized.
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> Pending event processed (this) ... 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: instance 1 initialized
>   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 initialized
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: instance 1 initialized
> Setting instance.initialized for 0x7f60a9890d60 from 0 to 1...
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> Instance 0x7f60a9890d60 initialization complete...
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window width changed.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window height changed.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: instance 1 width 368 height 288
> Wrote 32 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
> Instance 0x7f60a9890d60 initialization complete...
> Sending object message: instance 1 reference 0 GetJavaObject
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: instance 1 reference 0 GetJavaObject
> Wrote 37 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 0 GetJavaObject 51
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 0 GetJavaObject 51
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 0 GetJavaObject 51
> Time elapsed = 471121
> Patrsed integer: 51
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: instance 1 status Applet started.
>   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 status Applet started.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: instance 1 status Applet started.
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> Pending event processed (this) ... 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> GOT JAVA OBJECT IDENTIFIER: 51
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 51 0x7f60a97e6af0
> INCREMENTED: 51 0x7f60a97e6af0 to: 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetJavaObject return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ResultMap 0x7f60abd2f650 created for reference 2 found = 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSObject
> Wrote 61 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 1
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 1
> Time elapsed = 5854
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 1
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 1 0x7f60a97da770
> INCREMENTED: 1 0x7f60a97da770 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a97da770 = 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
> Wrote 37 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
> Time elapsed = 1918
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 1
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 1 0x7f60a97da770 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97da770 = 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ResultMap 0x7f60a97da720 created for reference -1 found = 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 1
> Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 
> netscape/javascript/JSException
> Wrote 64 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 2
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 2
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 2
> Time elapsed = 3806
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 2
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 2 0x7f60a9f1a860
> INCREMENTED: 2 0x7f60a9f1a860 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a9f1a860 = 2
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
> Wrote 37 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
> Time elapsed = 2697
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 2
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 2 0x7f60a9f1a860 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a9f1a860 = 2
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 2
> Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSUtil
> Wrote 59 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 11
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 11
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 11
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Time elapsed = 3356
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 11
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 11 0x7f60a9ad2e20
> INCREMENTED: 11 0x7f60a9ad2e20 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a9ad2e20 = 11
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
> Time elapsed = 1771
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 11
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 11 0x7f60a9ad2e20 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a9ad2e20 = 11
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 11
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> 
> (Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V
> Wrote 103 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 3
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 3
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 3
> Time elapsed = 2367
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 3
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 3 0x7f60a97e6bc0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 3 0x7f60a97e6bc0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97e6bc0 = 3, 
> (Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> 
> (ILjava/lang/Object;)V
> Wrote 66 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 4
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 4
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 4
> Time elapsed = 6451
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 4
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 4 0x7f60a97e8120
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 4 0x7f60a97e8120
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97e8120 = 4, (ILjava/lang/Object;)V
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 lineno I
> Wrote 44 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 5
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 5
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 5
> Time elapsed = 1115
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 5
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 5 0x7f60a97de9c0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 5 0x7f60a97de9c0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetFieldID result: a97de9c0 = 5, I
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 tokenIndex I
> Wrote 48 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 6
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 6
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 6
> Time elapsed = 1181
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 6
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 6 0x7f60a97dea40
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 6 0x7f60a97dea40
> RECEIVE_ID: GetFieldID result: a97dea40 = 6, I
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 source Ljava/lang/String;
> Wrote 61 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 7
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 7
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 7
> Time elapsed = 1188
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 7
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 7 0x7f60a97de9a0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 7 0x7f60a97de9a0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetFieldID result: a97de9a0 = 7, Ljava/lang/String;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 filename 
> Ljava/lang/String;
> Wrote 63 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 8
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 8
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 8
> Time elapsed = 887
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 8
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 8 0x7f60a9f633b0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 8 0x7f60a9f633b0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetFieldID result: a9f633b0 = 8, Ljava/lang/String;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 wrappedExceptionType I
> Wrote 58 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 9
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 9
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 9
> Time elapsed = 26141
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 9
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 9 0x7f60a9f63390
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 9 0x7f60a9f63390
> RECEIVE_ID: GetFieldID result: a9f63390 = 9, I
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 wrappedException 
> Ljava/lang/Object;
> Wrote 71 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 10
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 10
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 10
> Time elapsed = 1661
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 10
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 10 0x7f60a9f63430
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 10 0x7f60a9f63430
> RECEIVE_ID: GetFieldID result: a9f63430 = 10, Ljava/lang/Object;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetFieldID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 11 getStackTrace 
> (Ljava/lang/Throwable;)Ljava/lang/String;
> Wrote 99 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 12
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 12
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 12
> Time elapsed = 1533
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 12
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 12 0x7f60a9772fb0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 12 0x7f60a9772fb0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetStaticMethodID result: a9772fb0 = 12, 
> (Ljava/lang/Throwable;)Ljava/lang/String;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Object
> Wrote 49 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 13
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 13
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 13
> Time elapsed = 1184
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 13
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 13 0x7f60a9773070
> INCREMENTED: 13 0x7f60a9773070 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a9773070 = 13
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 13
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 13
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 13
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 13
> Time elapsed = 1231
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 13
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 13 0x7f60a9773070 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a9773070 = 13
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 13
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Class
> Wrote 48 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 14
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 14
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 14
> Time elapsed = 1679
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 14
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 14 0x7f60a97733c0
> INCREMENTED: 14 0x7f60a97733c0 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a97733c0 = 14
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 14
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 14
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 14
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 14
> Time elapsed = 1239
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 14
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 14 0x7f60a97733c0 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97733c0 = 14
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 14
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Method
> Wrote 57 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 22
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 22
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 22
> Time elapsed = 1503
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 22
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 22 0x7f60a9773440
> INCREMENTED: 22 0x7f60a9773440 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a9773440 = 22
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 22
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 22
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 22
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 22
> Time elapsed = 1368
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 22
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 22 0x7f60a9773440 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a9773440 = 22
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 22
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 
> java/lang/reflect/Constructor
> Wrote 62 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 27
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 27
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 27
> Time elapsed = 1483
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 27
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 27 0x7f60a987f6a0
> INCREMENTED: 27 0x7f60a987f6a0 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a987f6a0 = 27
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 27
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 27
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 27
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 27
> Time elapsed = 1364
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 27
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 27 0x7f60a987f6a0 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a987f6a0 = 27
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 27
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Field
> Wrote 56 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 30
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 30
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 30
> Time elapsed = 7879
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 30
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 30 0x7f60a987f720
> INCREMENTED: 30 0x7f60a987f720 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a987f720 = 30
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 30
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 30
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 30
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 30
> Time elapsed = 1101
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 30
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 30 0x7f60a987f720 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a987f720 = 30
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 30
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Array
> Wrote 56 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 34
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 34
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 34
> Time elapsed = 1031
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 34
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 34 0x7f60a987f7a0
> INCREMENTED: 34 0x7f60a987f7a0 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a987f7a0 = 34
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 34
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 34
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 34
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 34
> Time elapsed = 860
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 34
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 34 0x7f60a987f7a0 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a987f7a0 = 34
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 34
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Throwable
> Wrote 52 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 36
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 36
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 36
> Time elapsed = 1078
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 36
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 36 0x7f60a97e8380
> INCREMENTED: 36 0x7f60a97e8380 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a97e8380 = 36
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
> Time elapsed = 934
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 36
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 36 0x7f60a97e8380 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97e8380 = 36
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 36
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/System
> Wrote 49 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 39
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 39
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 39
> Time elapsed = 983
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 39
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 39 0x7f60a97e8400
> INCREMENTED: 39 0x7f60a97e8400 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a97e8400 = 39
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
> Time elapsed = 863
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 39
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 39 0x7f60a97e8400 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97e8400 = 39
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 39
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Boolean
> Wrote 50 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 41
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 41
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 41
> Time elapsed = 973
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 41
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 41 0x7f60a97e8480
> INCREMENTED: 41 0x7f60a97e8480 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a97e8480 = 41
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
> Time elapsed = 855
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 41
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 41 0x7f60a97e8480 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97e8480 = 41
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 41
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Double
> Wrote 49 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 44
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 44
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 44
> Time elapsed = 1133
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 44
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 44 0x7f60a987f9c0
> INCREMENTED: 44 0x7f60a987f9c0 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a987f9c0 = 44
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
> Time elapsed = 1010
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 44
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 44 0x7f60a987f9c0 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a987f9c0 = 44
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 44
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/String
> Wrote 49 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 49
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 49
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 49
> Time elapsed = 1067
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 49
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 49 0x7f60a97e8740
> INCREMENTED: 49 0x7f60a97e8740 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a97e8740 = 49
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49
> Time elapsed = 950
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 49
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 49 0x7f60a97e8740 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97e8740 = 49
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 49
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Void
> Wrote 47 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 47
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 47
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 47
> Time elapsed = 8131
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 47
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 47 0x7f60a97d9c40
> INCREMENTED: 47 0x7f60a97d9c40 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a97d9c40 = 47
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47
> Time elapsed = 1098
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 47
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 47 0x7f60a97d9c40 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97d9c40 = 47
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 47
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/applet/Applet
> Wrote 51 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 50
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 50
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 50
> Time elapsed = 1044
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 50
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 50 0x7f60a97d9cc0
> INCREMENTED: 50 0x7f60a97d9cc0 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: FindClass result: a97d9cc0 = 50
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::FindClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 50
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 50
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 50
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 50
> Time elapsed = 925
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 50
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 50 0x7f60a97d9cc0 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97d9cc0 = 50
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 50
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getMethods 
> ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Method;
> Wrote 78 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 15
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 15
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 15
> Time elapsed = 1152
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 15
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 15 0x7f60a97d9d80
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 15 0x7f60a97d9d80
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97d9d80 = 15, ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Method;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getConstructors 
> ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Constructor;
> Wrote 88 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 16
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 16
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 16
> Time elapsed = 1028
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 16
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 16 0x7f60a9971560
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 16 0x7f60a9971560
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a9971560 = 16, 
> ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Constructor;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getFields 
> ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Field;
> Wrote 76 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 17
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 17
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 17
> Time elapsed = 1403
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 17
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 17 0x7f60a97d9ff0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 17 0x7f60a97d9ff0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97d9ff0 = 17, ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Field;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getName 
> ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Wrote 66 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 18
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 18
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 18
> Time elapsed = 1049
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 18
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 18 0x7f60a97da120
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 18 0x7f60a97da120
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97da120 = 18, ()Ljava/lang/String;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 isArray ()Z
> Wrote 49 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 19
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 19
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 19
> Time elapsed = 1855
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 19
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 19 0x7f60a97da570
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 19 0x7f60a97da570
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97da570 = 19, ()Z
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getComponentType 
> ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> Wrote 74 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 20
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 20
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 20
> Time elapsed = 1785
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 20
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 20 0x7f60a9773120
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 20 0x7f60a9773120
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a9773120 = 20, ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getModifiers ()I
> Wrote 54 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 21
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 21
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 21
> Time elapsed = 1057
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 21
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 21 0x7f60a996a900
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 21 0x7f60a996a900
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a996a900 = 21, ()I
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getName 
> ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Wrote 66 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 23
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 23
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 23
> Time elapsed = 999
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 23
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 23 0x7f60a97dc9a0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 23 0x7f60a97dc9a0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dc9a0 = 23, ()Ljava/lang/String;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getParameterTypes 
> ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> Wrote 76 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 24
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 24
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 24
> Time elapsed = 1039
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 24
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 24 0x7f60a97dcab0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 24 0x7f60a97dcab0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dcab0 = 24, ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getReturnType 
> ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> Wrote 71 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 25
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 25
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 25
> Time elapsed = 1286
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 25
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 25 0x7f60a97dcbc0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 25 0x7f60a97dcbc0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dcbc0 = 25, ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getModifiers ()I
> Wrote 54 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 26
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 26
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 26
> Time elapsed = 1038
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 26
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 26 0x7f60a97dcc90
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 26 0x7f60a97dcc90
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dcc90 = 26, ()I
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 27 getParameterTypes 
> ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> Wrote 76 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 28
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 28
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 28
> Time elapsed = 1024
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 28
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 28 0x7f60a97dcde0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 28 0x7f60a97dcde0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dcde0 = 28, ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 27 getModifiers ()I
> Wrote 54 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 29
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 29
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 29
> Time elapsed = 1047
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 29
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 29 0x7f60a97dceb0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 29 0x7f60a97dceb0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dceb0 = 29, ()I
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getName 
> ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Wrote 66 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 31
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 31
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 31
> Time elapsed = 984
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 31
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 31 0x7f60a97dd000
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 31 0x7f60a97dd000
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dd000 = 31, ()Ljava/lang/String;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getType 
> ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> Wrote 65 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 32
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 32
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 32
> Time elapsed = 995
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 32
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 32 0x7f60a97dd110
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 32 0x7f60a97dd110
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dd110 = 32, ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getModifiers ()I
> Wrote 54 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 33
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 33
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 33
> Time elapsed = 1016
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 33
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 33 0x7f60a97dd1e0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 33 0x7f60a97dd1e0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dd1e0 = 33, ()I
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 34 newInstance 
> (Ljava/lang/Class;I)Ljava/lang/Object;
> Wrote 94 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 35
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 35
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 35
> Time elapsed = 1380
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 35
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 35 0x7f60a987fa50
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 35 0x7f60a987fa50
> RECEIVE_ID: GetStaticMethodID result: a987fa50 = 35, 
> (Ljava/lang/Class;I)Ljava/lang/Object;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 36 toString 
> ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Wrote 67 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 37
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 37
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 37
> Time elapsed = 1020
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 37
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 37 0x7f60a97dd3b0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 37 0x7f60a97dd3b0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97dd3b0 = 37, ()Ljava/lang/String;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 36 getMessage 
> ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Wrote 69 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 38
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 38
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 38
> Time elapsed = 995
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 38
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 38 0x7f60a97da2d0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 38 0x7f60a97da2d0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97da2d0 = 38, ()Ljava/lang/String;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 44 doubleValue ()D
> Wrote 53 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 45
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 45
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 45
> Time elapsed = 1058
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 45
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 45 0x7f60a97da3a0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 45 0x7f60a97da3a0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97da3a0 = 45, ()D
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 41 booleanValue ()Z
> Wrote 54 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 42
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 42
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 42
> Time elapsed = 947
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 42
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 42 0x7f60a97da4b0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 42 0x7f60a97da4b0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97da4b0 = 42, ()Z
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 39 identityHashCode 
> (Ljava/lang/Object;)I
> Wrote 82 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 40
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 40
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 40
> Time elapsed = 1057
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 40
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 40 0x7f60a97e91b0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 40 0x7f60a97e91b0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetStaticMethodID result: a97e91b0 = 40, (Ljava/lang/Object;)I
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 41 <init> (Z)V
> Wrote 49 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 43
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 43
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 43
> Time elapsed = 955
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 43
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 43 0x7f60a97e9250
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 43 0x7f60a97e9250
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97e9250 = 43, (Z)V
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 44 <init> (D)V
> Wrote 49 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 46
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 46
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 46
> Time elapsed = 1229
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 46
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 46 0x7f60a97e9360
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 46 0x7f60a97e9360
> RECEIVE_ID: GetMethodID result: a97e9360 = 46, (D)V
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetMethodID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticFieldID
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 47 TYPE 
> Ljava/lang/Class;
> Wrote 65 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE ID 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 48
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 48
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 48
> Time elapsed = 944
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 48
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 48 0x7f60a97e94c0
> JNIID CONSTRUCT: 48 0x7f60a97e94c0
> RECEIVE_ID: GetStaticFieldID result: a97e94c0 = 48, Ljava/lang/Class;
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticFieldID return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticField
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
> UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission GetStaticField 47 48
> Wrote 112 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE VALUE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticField 52
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticField 52
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticField 52
> Time elapsed = 9890
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 52
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 52 0x7f60a9773a10
> INCREMENTED: 52 0x7f60a9773a10 to: 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStaticField return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 52
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 52
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 52
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 52
> Time elapsed = 921
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 52
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 52 0x7f60a9773a10 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a9773a10 = 52
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetObjectClass
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetObjectClass 51
> Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetObjectClass 53
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetObjectClass 53
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetObjectClass 53
> Time elapsed = 777
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 53
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 53 0x7f60a987f830
> INCREMENTED: 53 0x7f60a987f830 to: 1
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: GetObjectClass result: a987f830 = 53
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetObjectClass return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
> UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53
> Wrote 118 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE VALUE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
> Time elapsed = 1386
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 1468735375
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallMethod
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
> UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 18
> Wrote 109 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE VALUE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 54
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 54
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 54
> Time elapsed = 1645
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 54
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 54 0x7f60a97ea6c0
> INCREMENTED: 54 0x7f60a97ea6c0 to: 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallMethod return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExceptionOccurred
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 ExceptionOccurred
> Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 ExceptionOccurred 0
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 ExceptionOccurred 0
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 ExceptionOccurred 0
> Time elapsed = 839
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 0
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: ExceptionOccurred result: 0 = 0
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExceptionOccurred return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringUTFChars
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetStringUTFChars 54
> Wrote 43 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE STRING 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringUTFChars 26 63 6f 6d 2e 66 
> 6c 75 65 6e 64 6f 2e 70 6c 61 79 65 72 2e 43 6f 72 74 61 64 6f
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringUTFChars 26 63 6f 6d 2e 
> 66 6c 75 65 6e 64 6f 2e 70 6c 61 79 65 72 2e 43 6f 72 74 61 64 6f
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringUTFChars 26 63 6f 6d 2e 66 
> 6c 75 65 6e 64 6f 2e 70 6c 61 79 65 72 2e 43 6f 72 74 61 64 6f
> Time elapsed = 991
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN UTF-8 STRING: com.fluendo.player.Cortado
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> Setting result to: com.fluendo.player.Cortado
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringUTFChars return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ReleaseStringUTFChars
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ReleaseStringUTFChars return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 54
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 53
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 53
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 53
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 53
> Time elapsed = 1040
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 53
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 53 0x7f60a987f830 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a987f830 = 53
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallMethod
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
> UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 19
> Wrote 109 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE VALUE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod false
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod false
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod false
> Time elapsed = 1762
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: false
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallMethod return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallMethod
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
> UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 21
> Wrote 109 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE VALUE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 1
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 1
> Time elapsed = 1114
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 1
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallMethod return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
> UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53
> Wrote 118 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE VALUE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
> Time elapsed = 1070
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 1468735375
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IsInstanceOf
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 51 1
> Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE BOOLEAN 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 0
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 0
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 0
> Time elapsed = 782
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 0
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IsInstanceOf return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
> UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 51
> Wrote 118 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE VALUE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 503262747
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 503262747
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 503262747
> Time elapsed = 1052
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 503262747
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ExpandArgs return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges 
> UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53
> Wrote 118 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE VALUE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
> Time elapsed = 1014
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 1468735375
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse int
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::ParseValue return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::CallStaticMethod return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
> Wrote 38 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
> Time elapsed = 814
> Looking in map for 2 and found = -1412237744
> Curr val = 0x7f60abd2f650
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> GOT RETURN IDENTIFIER 51
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> RECEIVE 3
> INCREMENTED: 51 0x7f60a97e6af0 to: 2
> RECEIVE_REFERENCE: NewGlobalRef result: a97e6af0 = 51
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::NewGlobalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 53
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DeleteLocalRef return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow: window already exists.
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SetWindow return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: instance 1 GetWindow
>   PIPE: plugin read: instance 1 GetWindow
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: instance 1 GetWindow
> GetWindow instance: -1450635936
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> HERE 22: 0
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: get component manager
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: thread manager
> HERE 23: 0, 0x255be70
> GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
> DONE GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20, 0x7f60a9affd20
> GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20
> DONE GETTING PEER!!!: 0x7f60a9affd20, 0x7f60a9affd20
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: get window
> HERE 24: -1451537664
> HERE 20: -1451537664
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 JavaScriptGetWindow -1451537664
> Wrote 42 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: instance 0 Call -1451537664 55 56
>   PIPE: plugin read: instance 0 Call -1451537664 55 56
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: instance 0 Call -1451537664 55 56
> POSTING Call
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse javascript id
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse method name id
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse args id
> POSTING Call DONE
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> BEFORE GETTING NAMESTRING
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 55 0x7f60a7e18e30
> INCREMENTED: 55 0x7f60a7e18e30 to: 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringLength
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 55
> Wrote 41 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE SIZE 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 6
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 6
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 6
> Time elapsed = 3529
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN VALUE: 6
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringLength return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringChars
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::IncrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
> Writing to JVM: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 55
> Wrote 40 bytes to pipe
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
> RECEIVE STRING UCS 1
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
> Received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 12 75 0 70 0 64 0 61 
> 0 74 0 65 0
>   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 12 75 0 70 0 64 0 
> 61 0 74 0 65 0
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
> received message: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 12 75 0 70 0 64 0 61 
> 0 74 0 65 0
> Time elapsed = 4543
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
> PLUGIN GOT RETURN UTF-16 STRING: 12: update??????
> Processing complete
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
> ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringChars return
> AFTER GETTING NAMESTRING
> JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 56 0x7f60a9af1350
> INCREMENTED: 56 0x7f60a9af1350 to: 1
> CALL: -1451537664, 6
> /usr/lib64/firefox-3.0.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  6485 Segmentation fault 
>      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
> [patrick at localhost ~]$
>
>
>
>

> Current context CL=sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader at 28df6ccd
> Loaded: sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer[frame0,0,25,0x0,invalid,hidden,layout=java.awt.BorderLayout,title=,resizable,normal] CL=null
> Creating consumer...
> Creating worker 0
> Creating worker 1
> Creating worker 2
> Streams initialized
> Waiting for data...
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: instance 1 tag http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/events/lk08/archive/jbottomley/player.htm <applet archive="/global/cortado.jar" code="com.fluendo.player.Cortado.class" mayscript="" height="288" width="368">      <param name="url" value="http://streaming.linux-magazin.de:8080/lk08/jbottomley.ogg">      <param name="local" value="false">      <param name="video" value="true">      <param name="audio" value="true">      <param name="seekable" value="true">      <param name="duration" value="3717">	  <param name="debug" value="1">      <param name="callback" value="update">      <param name="bufferSize" value="300">	  <param name="showStatus" value="show">	  <param name="keepAspect" value="true">    </applet></embed>
> Consumer received message instance 1 tag http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/events/lk08/archive/jbottomley/player.htm <applet archive="/global/cortado.jar" code="com.fluendo.player.Cortado.class" mayscript="" height="288" width="368">      <param name="url" value="http://streaming.linux-magazin.de:8080/lk08/jbottomley.ogg">      <param name="local" value="false">      <param name="video" value="true">      <param name="audio" value="true">      <param name="seekable" value="true">      <param name="duration" value="3717">	  <param name="debug" value="1">      <param name="callback" value="update">      <param name="bufferSize" value="300">	  <param name="showStatus" value="show">	  <param name="keepAspect" value="true">    </applet></embed>
> Message instance 1 tag http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/events/lk08/archive/jbottomley/player.htm <applet archive="/global/cortado.jar" code="com.fluendo.player.Cortado.class" mayscript="" height="288" width="368">      <param name="url" value="http://streaming.linux-magazin.de:8080/lk08/jbottomley.ogg">      <param name="local" value="false">      <param name="video" value="true">      <param name="audio" value="true">      <param name="seekable" value="true">      <param name="duration" value="3717">	  <param name="debug" value="1">      <param name="callback" value="update">      <param name="bufferSize" value="300">	  <param name="showStatus" value="show">	  <param name="keepAspect" value="true">    </applet></embed> added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: instance identifier: 1 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "tag http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/events/lk08/archive/jbottomley/player.htm <applet archive="/global/cortado.jar" code="com.fluendo.player.Cortado.class" mayscript="" height="288" width="368">      <param name="url" value="http://streaming.linux-magazin.de:8080/lk08/jbottomley.ogg">      <param name="local" value="false">      <param name="video" value="true">      <param name="audio" value="true">      <param name="seekable" value="true">      <param name="duration" value="3717">	  <param name="debug" value="1">      <param name="callback" value="update">      <param name="bufferSize" value="300">	  <param name="showStatus" value="show">	  <param name="keepAspect" value="true">    </applet></embed>"
> PAV handling: tag http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/events/lk08/archive/jbottomley/player.htm <applet archive="/global/cortado.jar" code="com.fluendo.player.Cortado.class" mayscript="" height="288" width="368">      <param name="url" value="http://streaming.linux-magazin.de:8080/lk08/jbottomley.ogg">      <param name="local" value="false">      <param name="video" value="true">      <param name="audio" value="true">      <param name="seekable" value="true">      <param name="duration" value="3717">	  <param name="debug" value="1">      <param name="callback" value="update">      <param name="bufferSize" value="300">	  <param name="showStatus" value="show">	  <param name="keepAspect" value="true">    </applet></embed>
> REQUEST TAG: <applet archive="/global/cortado.jar" code="com.fluendo.player.Cortado.class" mayscript="" height="288" width="368">      <param name="url" value="http://streaming.linux-magazin.de:8080/lk08/jbottomley.ogg">      <param name="local" value="false">      <param name="video" value="true">      <param name="audio" value="true">      <param name="seekable" value="true">      <param name="duration" value="3717">	  <param name="debug" value="1">      <param name="callback" value="update">      <param name="bufferSize" value="300">	  <param name="showStatus" value="show">	  <param name="keepAspect" value="true">    </applet></embed> Thread[Thread-1,5,main]
> REQUEST HANDLE NOT SET: 0. BYPASSING
> Waiting for data...
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: instance 1 handle 75500539
> Consumer received message instance 1 handle 75500539
> Message instance 1 handle 75500539 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: instance identifier: 1 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "handle 75500539"
> PAV handling: handle 75500539
> REQUEST HANDLE: 75500539
> REQUEST HANDLE, PARSING Thread[Thread-1,5,main]
> PUT archive = '/global/cortado.jar'
> PUT code = 'com.fluendo.player.Cortado.class'
> PUT mayscript = ''
> PUT height = '288'
> PUT width = '368'
> PUT name = 'url'
> PUT value = 'http://streaming.linux-magazin.de:8080/lk08/jbottomley.ogg'
> PUT name = 'local'
> PUT value = 'false'
> PUT name = 'video'
> PUT value = 'true'
> PUT name = 'audio'
> PUT value = 'true'
> PUT name = 'seekable'
> PUT value = 'true'
> PUT name = 'duration'
> PUT value = '3717'
> PUT name = 'debug'
> PUT value = '1'
> PUT name = 'callback'
> PUT value = 'update'
> PUT name = 'bufferSize'
> PUT value = '300'
> PUT name = 'showStatus'
> PUT value = 'show'
> PUT name = 'keepAspect'
> PUT value = 'true'
> Waiting for data...
> PARSING: PUTTING 1 sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer[frame1,0,25,368x288,layout=java.awt.BorderLayout,title=,resizable,normal]
> WRITING 2: instance 1 status starting applet...
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: instance 1 status starting applet...
> WRITING 2 DONE
> Jar string: /global/cortado.jar
> jars length: 1
> Waiting for applet to initialize... 
> Waiting for applet to initialize... 
> Waiting for applet to initialize... 
> WRITING 2: instance 1 status Applet loaded.
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: instance 1 status Applet loaded.
> WRITING 2 DONE
> WRITING 2: instance 1 status Applet initialized.
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: instance 1 status Applet initialized.
> WRITING 2 DONE
> Waiting for applet to initialize... 
> Applet initialized
> Associating net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader at 773c550f with http://streaming.linux-magazin.de
> WRITING 2: instance 1 initialized
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: instance 1 initialized
> WRITING 2 DONE
> REQUEST HANDLE, DONE PARSING Thread[Thread-1,5,main]
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: instance 1 width 368 height 288
> Consumer received message instance 1 width 368 height 288
> Message instance 1 width 368 height 288 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: instance identifier: 1 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "width 368 height 288"
> PAV handling: width 368 height 288
> HANDLING MESSAGE width 368 height 288 instance 1 Thread[Thread-1,5,main]
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: instance 1 reference 0 GetJavaObject
> Consumer received message instance 1 reference 0 GetJavaObject
> Message instance 1 reference 0 GetJavaObject added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: instance identifier: 1 reference: 0 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetJavaObject"
> PAV handling: GetJavaObject
> HANDLING MESSAGE GetJavaObject instance 1 Thread[Thread-1,5,main]
> Looking for object com.fluendo.player.Cortado[panel0,0,0,368x288,hidden,layout=java.awt.FlowLayout] panel is net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel[panel1,0,0,368x288,layout=java.awt.BorderLayout]
> WRITING 1: context 0 reference 0 GetJavaObject 51
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 0 GetJavaObject 51
> WRITING 1 DONE
> WRITING 2: instance 1 status Applet started.
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: instance 1 status Applet started.
> WRITING 2 DONE
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSObject
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSObject
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSObject added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass netscape/javascript/JSObject"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass netscape/javascript/JSObject
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass netscape/javascript/JSObject CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 1
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 1
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 1"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 1
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 1 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 1
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 1
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 1
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 1
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 1 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSException
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSException
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSException added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 1"
> Found free worker with id 1
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 1 woken...
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 1
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 1 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass netscape/javascript/JSException"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass netscape/javascript/JSException
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass netscape/javascript/JSException CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 2
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 2
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 2"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 2
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 2 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 2
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 2
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 2
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 2
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 2 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSUtil
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSUtil
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass netscape/javascript/JSUtil added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 1
> Consumer thread 1 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass netscape/javascript/JSUtil"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass netscape/javascript/JSUtil
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass netscape/javascript/JSUtil CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 11
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 11
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 2"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 2
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 2 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Waiting for data...
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 11"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 11
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 11 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 11
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 11
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 11
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 11
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 11 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> (Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> (Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 11"
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> (Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 11
> Found free worker with id 1
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 11 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> Consumer thread 1 woken...
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 2 <init> (Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 2 <init> (Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 2 <init> (Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;ILjava/lang/String;I)V CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public netscape.javascript.JSException(java.lang.String,java.lang.String,int,java.lang.String,int) has id 3
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 3
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 3
> Waiting for data...
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> (ILjava/lang/Object;)V
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> (ILjava/lang/Object;)V
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 2 <init> (ILjava/lang/Object;)V added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 2 <init> (ILjava/lang/Object;)V"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 2 <init> (ILjava/lang/Object;)V
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 2 <init> (ILjava/lang/Object;)V CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public netscape.javascript.JSException(int,java.lang.Object) has id 4
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 4
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 4
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 lineno I
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 lineno I
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 lineno I added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetFieldID 2 lineno I"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetFieldID 2 lineno I
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetFieldID 2 lineno I CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStaticFieldID 5
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 5
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 tokenIndex I
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 tokenIndex I
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 tokenIndex I added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetFieldID 2 tokenIndex I"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetFieldID 2 tokenIndex I
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetFieldID 2 tokenIndex I CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStaticFieldID 6
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 6
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 source Ljava/lang/String;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 source Ljava/lang/String;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 source Ljava/lang/String; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetFieldID 2 source Ljava/lang/String;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetFieldID 2 source Ljava/lang/String;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetFieldID 2 source Ljava/lang/String; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStaticFieldID 7
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 7
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 filename Ljava/lang/String;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 filename Ljava/lang/String;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 filename Ljava/lang/String; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetFieldID 2 filename Ljava/lang/String;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetFieldID 2 filename Ljava/lang/String;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetFieldID 2 filename Ljava/lang/String; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStaticFieldID 8
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 8
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 wrappedExceptionType I
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 wrappedExceptionType I
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 wrappedExceptionType I added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetFieldID 2 wrappedExceptionType I"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetFieldID 2 wrappedExceptionType I
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetFieldID 2 wrappedExceptionType I CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStaticFieldID 9
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 9
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 wrappedException Ljava/lang/Object;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 wrappedException Ljava/lang/Object;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetFieldID 2 wrappedException Ljava/lang/Object; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetFieldID 2 wrappedException Ljava/lang/Object;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetFieldID 2 wrappedException Ljava/lang/Object;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetFieldID 2 wrappedException Ljava/lang/Object; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStaticFieldID 10
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 10
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 11 getStackTrace (Ljava/lang/Throwable;)Ljava/lang/String;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 11 getStackTrace (Ljava/lang/Throwable;)Ljava/lang/String;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 11 getStackTrace (Ljava/lang/Throwable;)Ljava/lang/String; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetStaticMethodID 11 getStackTrace (Ljava/lang/Throwable;)Ljava/lang/String;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetStaticMethodID 11 getStackTrace (Ljava/lang/Throwable;)Ljava/lang/String;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetStaticMethodID 11 getStackTrace (Ljava/lang/Throwable;)Ljava/lang/String; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public static java.lang.String netscape.javascript.JSUtil.getStackTrace(java.lang.Throwable) has id 12
> appletviewer writing GetStaticMethodID 12
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 12
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Object
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Object
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Object added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/Object"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/Object
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/Object CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 13
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 13
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 13
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 13
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 13 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 13"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 13
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 13 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 13
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 13
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 13
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 13
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 13 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 13"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 13
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 13 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Class
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Class
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Class added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/Class"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/Class
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/Class CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 14
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 14
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 14
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 14
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 14 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 14"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 14
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 14 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 14
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 14
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 14
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 14
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 14 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 14"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 14
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 14 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Method
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Method
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Method added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/reflect/Method"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/reflect/Method
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/reflect/Method CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 22
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 22
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 22
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 22
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 22 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 22"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 22
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 22 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 22
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 22
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 22
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 22
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 22 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 22"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 22
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 22 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Constructor
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Constructor
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Constructor added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/reflect/Constructor"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/reflect/Constructor
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/reflect/Constructor CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 27
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 27
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 27
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 27
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 27 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 27"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 27
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 27 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 27
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 27
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 27
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 27
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 27 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 27"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 27
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 27 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Field
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Field
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Field added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/reflect/Field"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/reflect/Field
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/reflect/Field CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 30
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 30
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 30
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 30
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 30 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 30"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 30
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 30 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 30
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 30
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 30
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 30
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 30 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 30"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 30
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 30 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Array
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Array
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/reflect/Array added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/reflect/Array"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/reflect/Array
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/reflect/Array CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 34
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 34
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 34
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 34
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 34 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 34"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 34
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 34 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 34
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 34
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 34
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 34
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 34 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 34"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 34
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 34 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Throwable
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Throwable
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Throwable added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/Throwable"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/Throwable
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/Throwable CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 36
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 36
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 36"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 36
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 36 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 36
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 36
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 36
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 36
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 36 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 36"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 36
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 36 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/System
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/System
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/System added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/System"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/System
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/System CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 39
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 39
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 39"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 39
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 39 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 39
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 39
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 39
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 39
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 39 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 39"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 39
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 39 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Boolean
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Boolean
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Boolean added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/Boolean"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/Boolean
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/Boolean CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 41
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 41
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 41"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 41
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 41 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 41
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 41
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 41
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 41
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 41 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 41"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 41
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 41 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Double
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Double
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Double added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/Double"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/Double
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/Double CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 44
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 44
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 44"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 44
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 44 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 44
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 44
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 44
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 44
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 44 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 44"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 44
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 44 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/String
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/String
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/String added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/String"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/String
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/String CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 49
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 49
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 49"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 49
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 49 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 49
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 49
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 49
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 49
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 49 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 49"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 49
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 49 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Void
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Void
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/lang/Void added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/lang/Void"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/lang/Void
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/lang/Void CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 47
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 47
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 47"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 47
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 47 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 47
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 47
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 47
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 47
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 47 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 47"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 47
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 47 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/applet/Applet
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/applet/Applet
> Message context 0 reference 2 FindClass java/applet/Applet added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "FindClass java/applet/Applet"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and FindClass java/applet/Applet
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- FindClass java/applet/Applet CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing FindClass 50
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 FindClass 50
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 50
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 50
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 50 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 50"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 50
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 50 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 50
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 50
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 50
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 50
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 50 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 50"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 50
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 50 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getMethods ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Method;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getMethods ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Method;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getMethods ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Method; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 14 getMethods ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Method;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 14 getMethods ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Method;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 14 getMethods ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Method; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.reflect.Method[] java.lang.Class.getMethods() throws java.lang.SecurityException has id 15
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 15
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 15
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getConstructors ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Constructor;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getConstructors ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Constructor;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getConstructors ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Constructor; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 14 getConstructors ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Constructor;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 14 getConstructors ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Constructor;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 14 getConstructors ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Constructor; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.reflect.Constructor[] java.lang.Class.getConstructors() throws java.lang.SecurityException has id 16
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 16
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 16
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getFields ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Field;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getFields ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Field;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getFields ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Field; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 14 getFields ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Field;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 14 getFields ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Field;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 14 getFields ()[Ljava/lang/reflect/Field; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.reflect.Field[] java.lang.Class.getFields() throws java.lang.SecurityException has id 17
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 17
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 17
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getName ()Ljava/lang/String; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 14 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 14 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 14 getName ()Ljava/lang/String; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.String java.lang.Class.getName() has id 18
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 18
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 18
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 isArray ()Z
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 isArray ()Z
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 isArray ()Z added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 14 isArray ()Z"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 14 isArray ()Z
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 14 isArray ()Z CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public native boolean java.lang.Class.isArray() has id 19
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 19
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 19
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getComponentType ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getComponentType ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getComponentType ()Ljava/lang/Class; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 14 getComponentType ()Ljava/lang/Class;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 14 getComponentType ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 14 getComponentType ()Ljava/lang/Class; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public native java.lang.Class java.lang.Class.getComponentType() has id 20
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 20
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 20
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getModifiers ()I
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getModifiers ()I
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 14 getModifiers ()I added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 14 getModifiers ()I"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 14 getModifiers ()I
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 14 getModifiers ()I CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public native int java.lang.Class.getModifiers() has id 21
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 21
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 21
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getName ()Ljava/lang/String; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 22 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 22 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 22 getName ()Ljava/lang/String; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.String java.lang.reflect.Method.getName() has id 23
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 23
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 23
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 22 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 22 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 22 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.Class[] java.lang.reflect.Method.getParameterTypes() has id 24
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 24
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 24
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getReturnType ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getReturnType ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getReturnType ()Ljava/lang/Class; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 22 getReturnType ()Ljava/lang/Class;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 22 getReturnType ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 22 getReturnType ()Ljava/lang/Class; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.Class java.lang.reflect.Method.getReturnType() has id 25
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 25
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 25
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getModifiers ()I
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getModifiers ()I
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 22 getModifiers ()I added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 22 getModifiers ()I"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 22 getModifiers ()I
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 22 getModifiers ()I CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public int java.lang.reflect.Method.getModifiers() has id 26
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 26
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 26
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 27 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 27 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 27 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 27 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 27 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 27 getParameterTypes ()[Ljava/lang/Class; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.Class[] java.lang.reflect.Constructor.getParameterTypes() has id 28
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 28
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 28
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 27 getModifiers ()I
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 27 getModifiers ()I
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 27 getModifiers ()I added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 27 getModifiers ()I"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 27 getModifiers ()I
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 27 getModifiers ()I CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public int java.lang.reflect.Constructor.getModifiers() has id 29
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 29
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 29
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getName ()Ljava/lang/String; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 30 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 30 getName ()Ljava/lang/String;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 30 getName ()Ljava/lang/String; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.String java.lang.reflect.Field.getName() has id 31
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 31
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 31
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getType ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getType ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getType ()Ljava/lang/Class; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 30 getType ()Ljava/lang/Class;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 30 getType ()Ljava/lang/Class;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 30 getType ()Ljava/lang/Class; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.Class java.lang.reflect.Field.getType() has id 32
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 32
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 32
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getModifiers ()I
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getModifiers ()I
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 30 getModifiers ()I added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 30 getModifiers ()I"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 30 getModifiers ()I
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 30 getModifiers ()I CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public int java.lang.reflect.Field.getModifiers() has id 33
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 33
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 33
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 34 newInstance (Ljava/lang/Class;I)Ljava/lang/Object;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 34 newInstance (Ljava/lang/Class;I)Ljava/lang/Object;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 34 newInstance (Ljava/lang/Class;I)Ljava/lang/Object; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetStaticMethodID 34 newInstance (Ljava/lang/Class;I)Ljava/lang/Object;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetStaticMethodID 34 newInstance (Ljava/lang/Class;I)Ljava/lang/Object;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetStaticMethodID 34 newInstance (Ljava/lang/Class;I)Ljava/lang/Object; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public static java.lang.Object java.lang.reflect.Array.newInstance(java.lang.Class,int) throws java.lang.NegativeArraySizeException has id 35
> appletviewer writing GetStaticMethodID 35
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 35
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 36 toString ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 36 toString ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 36 toString ()Ljava/lang/String; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 36 toString ()Ljava/lang/String;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 36 toString ()Ljava/lang/String;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 36 toString ()Ljava/lang/String; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.String java.lang.Throwable.toString() has id 37
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 37
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 37
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 36 getMessage ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 36 getMessage ()Ljava/lang/String;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 36 getMessage ()Ljava/lang/String; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 36 getMessage ()Ljava/lang/String;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 36 getMessage ()Ljava/lang/String;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 36 getMessage ()Ljava/lang/String; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.String java.lang.Throwable.getMessage() has id 38
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 38
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 38
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 44 doubleValue ()D
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 44 doubleValue ()D
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 44 doubleValue ()D added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 44 doubleValue ()D"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 44 doubleValue ()D
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 44 doubleValue ()D CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public double java.lang.Double.doubleValue() has id 45
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 45
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 45
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 41 booleanValue ()Z
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 41 booleanValue ()Z
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 41 booleanValue ()Z added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 41 booleanValue ()Z"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 41 booleanValue ()Z
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 41 booleanValue ()Z CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public boolean java.lang.Boolean.booleanValue() has id 42
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 42
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 42
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 39 identityHashCode (Ljava/lang/Object;)I
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 39 identityHashCode (Ljava/lang/Object;)I
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 39 identityHashCode (Ljava/lang/Object;)I added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetStaticMethodID 39 identityHashCode (Ljava/lang/Object;)I"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetStaticMethodID 39 identityHashCode (Ljava/lang/Object;)I
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetStaticMethodID 39 identityHashCode (Ljava/lang/Object;)I CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public static native int java.lang.System.identityHashCode(java.lang.Object) has id 40
> appletviewer writing GetStaticMethodID 40
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticMethodID 40
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 41 <init> (Z)V
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 41 <init> (Z)V
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 41 <init> (Z)V added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 41 <init> (Z)V"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 41 <init> (Z)V
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 41 <init> (Z)V CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.Boolean(boolean) has id 43
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 43
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 43
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 44 <init> (D)V
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 44 <init> (D)V
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 44 <init> (D)V added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetMethodID 44 <init> (D)V"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetMethodID 44 <init> (D)V
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetMethodID 44 <init> (D)V CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> public java.lang.Double(double) has id 46
> appletviewer writing GetMethodID 46
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetMethodID 46
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 47 TYPE Ljava/lang/Class;
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 47 TYPE Ljava/lang/Class;
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 47 TYPE Ljava/lang/Class; added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetStaticFieldID 47 TYPE Ljava/lang/Class;"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetStaticFieldID 47 TYPE Ljava/lang/Class;
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetStaticFieldID 47 TYPE Ljava/lang/Class; CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStaticFieldID 48
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticFieldID 48
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission GetStaticField 47 48
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission GetStaticField 47 48
> Message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission GetStaticField 47 48 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: [System] privileges: [Ljava.lang.String;@212cb585 rest: "GetStaticField 47 48"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetStaticField 47 48
> 0 -- [System] -- 2 -- GetStaticField 47 48 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStaticField 52
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStaticField 52
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 52
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 52
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 52 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 52"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 52
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 52 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 52
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 52
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetObjectClass 51
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetObjectClass 51
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetObjectClass 51 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetObjectClass 51"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetObjectClass 51
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetObjectClass 51 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetObjectClass 53
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetObjectClass 53
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53 
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53 
> Message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53  added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: [System] privileges: [Ljava.lang.String;@51e2a069 rest: "CallStaticMethod 39 40 53"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and CallStaticMethod 39 40 53
> 0 -- [System] -- 2 -- CallStaticMethod 39 40 53 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> GETTING: 40
> GOT: public static native int java.lang.System.identityHashCode(java.lang.Object)
> appletviewer writing CallStaticMethod 1468735375
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 18 
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 18 
> Message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 18  added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: [System] privileges: [Ljava.lang.String;@75cefde4 rest: "CallMethod 53 18"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and CallMethod 53 18
> 0 -- [System] -- 2 -- CallMethod 53 18 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> Calling method public java.lang.String java.lang.Class.getName() on object class com.fluendo.player.Cortado with [Ljava.lang.Object;@687ec028
> Calling public java.lang.String java.lang.Class.getName() on class com.fluendo.player.Cortado with  CallMethod 53 18 and that returned: com.fluendo.player.Cortado of type class java.lang.String
> appletviewer writing CallMethod 54
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 54
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 ExceptionOccurred
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 ExceptionOccurred
> Message context 0 reference 2 ExceptionOccurred added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "ExceptionOccurred"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and ExceptionOccurred
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- ExceptionOccurred CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> EXCEPTION: null
> appletviewer writing ExceptionOccurred 0
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 ExceptionOccurred 0
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringUTFChars 54
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetStringUTFChars 54
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetStringUTFChars 54 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetStringUTFChars 54"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetStringUTFChars 54
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetStringUTFChars 54 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStringUTFChars 26 63 6f 6d 2e 66 6c 75 65 6e 64 6f 2e 70 6c 61 79 65 72 2e 43 6f 72 74 61 64 6f
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStringUTFChars 26 63 6f 6d 2e 66 6c 75 65 6e 64 6f 2e 70 6c 61 79 65 72 2e 43 6f 72 74 61 64 6f
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 54
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 54
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 54 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 53
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 53
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 53 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 1
> Consumer thread 1 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 53"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 53
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 53 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 53
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 53
> Waiting for data...
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 19 
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 19 
> Message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 19  added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 1
> Consumer thread 1 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: [System] privileges: [Ljava.lang.String;@6818c458 rest: "CallMethod 53 19"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and CallMethod 53 19
> 0 -- [System] -- 2 -- CallMethod 53 19 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> Calling method public native boolean java.lang.Class.isArray() on object class com.fluendo.player.Cortado with [Ljava.lang.Object;@3202a2cc
> Calling public native boolean java.lang.Class.isArray() on class com.fluendo.player.Cortado with  CallMethod 53 19 and that returned: false of type class java.lang.Boolean
> appletviewer writing CallMethod false
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod false
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 54"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 54
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 54 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 21 
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 21 
> Message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallMethod 53 21  added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: [System] privileges: [Ljava.lang.String;@4b0e18ba rest: "CallMethod 53 21"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and CallMethod 53 21
> 0 -- [System] -- 2 -- CallMethod 53 21 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> Calling method public native int java.lang.Class.getModifiers() on object class com.fluendo.player.Cortado with [Ljava.lang.Object;@a7981d5
> Calling public native int java.lang.Class.getModifiers() on class com.fluendo.player.Cortado with  CallMethod 53 21 and that returned: 1 of type class java.lang.Integer
> appletviewer writing CallMethod 1
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 CallMethod 1
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53 
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53 
> Message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53  added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: [System] privileges: [Ljava.lang.String;@2f3acc52 rest: "CallStaticMethod 39 40 53"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and CallStaticMethod 39 40 53
> 0 -- [System] -- 2 -- CallStaticMethod 39 40 53 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> GETTING: 40
> GOT: public static native int java.lang.System.identityHashCode(java.lang.Object)
> appletviewer writing CallStaticMethod 1468735375
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 51 1
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 51 1
> Message context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 51 1 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "IsInstanceOf 51 1"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and IsInstanceOf 51 1
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- IsInstanceOf 51 1 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing IsInstanceOf 0
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 IsInstanceOf 0
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 51 
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 51 
> Message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 51  added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: [System] privileges: [Ljava.lang.String;@3d3c33b7 rest: "CallStaticMethod 39 40 51"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and CallStaticMethod 39 40 51
> 0 -- [System] -- 2 -- CallStaticMethod 39 40 51 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> GETTING: 40
> GOT: public static native int java.lang.System.identityHashCode(java.lang.Object)
> appletviewer writing CallStaticMethod 503262747
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 503262747
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53 
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53 
> Message context 0 reference 2 src [System] privileges UniversalBrowserRead,UniversalJavaPermission CallStaticMethod 39 40 53  added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: [System] privileges: [Ljava.lang.String;@3b6752c9 rest: "CallStaticMethod 39 40 53"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and CallStaticMethod 39 40 53
> 0 -- [System] -- 2 -- CallStaticMethod 39 40 53 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> GETTING: 40
> GOT: public static native int java.lang.System.identityHashCode(java.lang.Object)
> appletviewer writing CallStaticMethod 1468735375
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 CallStaticMethod 1468735375
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
> Message context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "NewGlobalRef 51"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and NewGlobalRef 51
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- NewGlobalRef 51 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing NewGlobalRef 51
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 NewGlobalRef 51
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 53
> Consumer received message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 53
> Message context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef 53 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "DeleteLocalRef 53"
> Sending to PASC: 0/-1 and DeleteLocalRef 53
> 0 -- null -- -1 -- DeleteLocalRef 53 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing DeleteLocalRef
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference -1 DeleteLocalRef
> JSObject INITIALIZER
> JSObject.getWindow
> STARTING getWindow
> STARTING postCallRequest
> Securitymanager=net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPSecurityManager at 2d9f90e3
> STARTING postCallRequest done
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: instance 1 GetWindow
> wait request 1
> wait request 2
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 JavaScriptGetWindow -1451537664
> Consumer received message context 0 JavaScriptGetWindow -1451537664
> Message context 0 JavaScriptGetWindow -1451537664 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: -1 src: null privileges: null rest: "JavaScriptGetWindow -1451537664"
> DISPATCHCALLREQUESTS 1
> DISPATCHCALLREQUESTS 2
> DISPATCHCALLREQUESTS 3
> DISPATCHCALLREQUESTS 5
> GetWINDOWparseReturn GOT: JavaScriptGetWindow -1451537664
> DISPATCHCALLREQUESTS 6
> DISPATCHCALLREQUESTS 7
> wait request 3
> STARTING getWindow DONE
> DISPATCHCALLREQUESTS 8
> GOT IT: -1451537664
> JSObject int CONSTRUCTOR
> JSObject.call update 1
> GetMEMBerPLUGINCAlL instance 0 Call -1451537664 55 56 JavaScriptCall
> Securitymanager=net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPSecurityManager at 2d9f90e3
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: instance 0 Call -1451537664 55 56
> wait call request 1
> wait call request 2
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 55
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 55
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 55 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetStringLength 55"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetStringLength 55
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetStringLength 55 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> appletviewer writing GetStringLength 6
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 6
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 55
> Consumer received message context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 55
> Message context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 55 added to queue. Looking for free worker...
> Found free worker with id 0
> Waiting for data...
> Consumer thread 0 woken...
> Breakdown -- type: context identifier: 0 reference: 2 src: null privileges: null rest: "GetStringChars 55"
> Sending to PASC: 0/2 and GetStringChars 55
> 0 -- null -- 2 -- GetStringChars 55 CONTEXT= sun.applet.PluginAppletSecurityContext at 5d90b72c
> Java: GetStringChars: update
>   String BYTES: 12 75 0 70 0 64 0 61 0 74 0 65 0
> appletviewer writing GetStringChars 12 75 0 70 0 64 0 61 0 74 0 65 0
>   PIPE: appletviewer wrote: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 12 75 0 70 0 64 0 61 0 74 0 65 0
>   PIPE: appletviewer read: null
> 1::class netscape.javascript.JSObject
> 2::class netscape.javascript.JSException
> 3::public netscape.javascript.JSException(java.lang.String,java.lang.String,int,java.lang.String,int)
> 4::public netscape.javascript.JSException(int,java.lang.Object)
> 5::public int netscape.javascript.JSException.lineno
> 6::public int netscape.javascript.JSException.tokenIndex
> 7::public java.lang.String netscape.javascript.JSException.source
> 8::public java.lang.String netscape.javascript.JSException.filename
> 9::public int netscape.javascript.JSException.wrappedExceptionType
> 10::public java.lang.Object netscape.javascript.JSException.wrappedException
> 11::class netscape.javascript.JSUtil
> 12::public static java.lang.String netscape.javascript.JSUtil.getStackTrace(java.lang.Throwable)
> 13::class java.lang.Object
> 14::class java.lang.Class
> 15::public java.lang.reflect.Method[] java.lang.Class.getMethods() throws java.lang.SecurityException
> 17::public java.lang.reflect.Field[] java.lang.Class.getFields() throws java.lang.SecurityException
> 16::public java.lang.reflect.Constructor[] java.lang.Class.getConstructors() throws java.lang.SecurityException
> 19::public native boolean java.lang.Class.isArray()
> 18::public java.lang.String java.lang.Class.getName()
> 21::public native int java.lang.Class.getModifiers()
> 20::public native java.lang.Class java.lang.Class.getComponentType()
> 23::public java.lang.String java.lang.reflect.Method.getName()
> 22::class java.lang.reflect.Method
> 25::public java.lang.Class java.lang.reflect.Method.getReturnType()
> 24::public java.lang.Class[] java.lang.reflect.Method.getParameterTypes()
> 27::class java.lang.reflect.Constructor
> 26::public int java.lang.reflect.Method.getModifiers()
> 29::public int java.lang.reflect.Constructor.getModifiers()
> 28::public java.lang.Class[] java.lang.reflect.Constructor.getParameterTypes()
> 31::public java.lang.String java.lang.reflect.Field.getName()
> 30::class java.lang.reflect.Field
> 34::class java.lang.reflect.Array
> 35::public static java.lang.Object java.lang.reflect.Array.newInstance(java.lang.Class,int) throws java.lang.NegativeArraySizeException
> 32::public java.lang.Class java.lang.reflect.Field.getType()
> 33::public int java.lang.reflect.Field.getModifiers()
> 38::public java.lang.String java.lang.Throwable.getMessage()
> 39::class java.lang.System
> 36::class java.lang.Throwable
> 37::public java.lang.String java.lang.Throwable.toString()
> 42::public boolean java.lang.Boolean.booleanValue()
> 43::public java.lang.Boolean(boolean)
> 40::public static native int java.lang.System.identityHashCode(java.lang.Object)
> 41::class java.lang.Boolean
> 46::public java.lang.Double(double)
> 47::class java.lang.Void
> 44::class java.lang.Double
> 45::public double java.lang.Double.doubleValue()
> 51::com.fluendo.player.Cortado[panel0,0,0,368x288,layout=java.awt.FlowLayout]
> 50::class java.applet.Applet
> 49::class java.lang.String
> 48::public static final java.lang.Class java.lang.Void.TYPE
> 55::update
> 53::class com.fluendo.player.Cortado
> 52::void
> 56::[Ljava.lang.Object;@46e13e7b
> APPLETVIEWER: exiting appletviewer

> JNLPRuntime already initialized
> init()
> start()
> [Message]: Pad: httpsrc:src [com.fluendo.plugin.HTTPSrc$1 at 8a2023] type: STREAM_STATUS, start, reason: ok, activating
> [Message]: Pad: buffer:src [com.fluendo.plugin.Queue$1 at 3545fe3b] type: STREAM_STATUS, start, reason: ok, activating
> [Message]: Pad: v_queue:src [com.fluendo.plugin.Queue$1 at 41e3a0ec] type: STREAM_STATUS, start, reason: ok, activating
> [Message]: Pad: a_queue:src [com.fluendo.plugin.Queue$1 at 57f7cdc7] type: STREAM_STATUS, start, reason: ok, activating



From kwhiskerz at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 23:26:03 2008
From: kwhiskerz at gmail.com (Petrus de Calguarium)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:26:03 -0600
Subject: Repairing a mount configuration problem
References: <geacmk$39h$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <geareb$n5m$2@ger.gmane.org>

Thanks. I knew there was some way to remount, but I had never tried it.



From fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl  Wed Oct 29 23:51:45 2008
From: fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl (Patrick)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:51:45 +0100
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
 test!)
In-Reply-To: <20081029225815.GB12044@redhat.com>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
	<4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029204649.GD1643@redhat.com>
	<4908E814.1040007@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081029225815.GB12044@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4908F711.5050201@puzzled.xs4all.nl>

Deepak Bhole wrote:
> * Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-29 18:48]:
>> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any other copies of firefox running? You need to make sure all
>>> instances are closed. Once that is confirmed, doing
>>> 'ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox' on the console should produce debug
>>> output.
>>
> 
> Ah, that segfault was a nasty 64-bit-only bug. Which version of the openjdk 
> rpm are you using? I fixed that issue in the latest build here:
> 
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=67796
> 
> Please try it again with that one.. for some reason it has no hit
> rawhide yet even though it was built 2 days ago.
[snip]
Downloaded the java updates you refered to and updated with rpm -Uvh. 
Saw one message I didn't understand:

    6:java-1.6.0-openjdk-plug########################################### 
[ 86%]
/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so has not 
been configured as an alternative for libjavaplugin.so.x86_64

But I don't have the gcjwebplugin:

[patrick at localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep gcjwebplugin
[patrick at localhost ~]$

Then I did the test with ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox again and it 
worked fine. Starting Firefox regularly worked fine too. I scrolled back 
and forth through the video and everything just worked. Great job!

Regards,
Patrick



From dbhole at redhat.com  Thu Oct 30 00:03:37 2008
From: dbhole at redhat.com (Deepak Bhole)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:03:37 -0400
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
	test!)
In-Reply-To: <4908F711.5050201@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
	<4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029204649.GD1643@redhat.com>
	<4908E814.1040007@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081029225815.GB12044@redhat.com>
	<4908F711.5050201@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <20081030000334.GD12044@redhat.com>

* Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-29 19:52]:
> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>> * Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-29 18:48]:
>>> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are there any other copies of firefox running? You need to make sure all
>>>> instances are closed. Once that is confirmed, doing
>>>> 'ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox' on the console should produce debug
>>>> output.
>>>
>>
>> Ah, that segfault was a nasty 64-bit-only bug. Which version of the 
>> openjdk rpm are you using? I fixed that issue in the latest build here:
>>
>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=67796
>>
>> Please try it again with that one.. for some reason it has no hit
>> rawhide yet even though it was built 2 days ago.
> [snip]
> Downloaded the java updates you refered to and updated with rpm -Uvh. Saw 
> one message I didn't understand:
>
>    6:java-1.6.0-openjdk-plug########################################### [ 
> 86%]
> /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so has not 
> been configured as an alternative for libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
>

Weird, I was almost certain that the newest build had fixed that issue
completely :/ Looks like it fixes the problem only partially. I will double 
check on that one.

> But I don't have the gcjwebplugin:
>
> [patrick at localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep gcjwebplugin
> [patrick at localhost ~]$
>
> Then I did the test with ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox again and it 
> worked fine. Starting Firefox regularly worked fine too. I scrolled back 
> and forth through the video and everything just worked. Great job!
>

Great! Glad to hear it is working now :)

Deepak



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 30 00:04:39 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:34:39 +0530
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
 test!)
In-Reply-To: <20081029204649.GD1643@redhat.com>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
	<4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029204649.GD1643@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <4908FA17.2030708@fedoraproject.org>

Deepak Bhole wrote:

> Are there any other copies of firefox running? You need to make sure all
> instances are closed. Once that is confirmed, doing
> 'ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox' on the console should produce debug
> output.

Strangely enough, it works perfectly fine with debug on. Attached 
whatever debug info you wanted.

----

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()Ljava/lang/String;
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: parse integer
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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http://streaming.linux-magazin.de CallMethod 69 59
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringLength 2
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference 2 GetStringChars 4 31 0 34 0
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
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Curr val = 0xd02d098
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105 110 101 100
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
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FINALIZE: 229845032
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HERE 22: 229845032
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HERE 23: 229845032, 0x9021050
GETTING PEER!!!: 0x1091d758
DONE GETTING PEER!!!: 0x1091d758, 0x1091d758
GETTING PEER!!!: 0x1091d758
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HERE 20: 182412672
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POSTING Call
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ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteGlobalRef
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61 0 74 0 65 0
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   PIPE: plugin read: context 0 reference -1 DeleteGlobalRef
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: plugin_in_pipe_callback return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM
received message: context 0 reference -1 DeleteGlobalRef
Processing complete
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::ConsumeMsgFromJVM return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::DecrementContextCounter return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: JNIEnv::GetStringChars return
AFTER GETTING NAMESTRING
JNIReference CONSTRUCT: 71 0xa986fb0
INCREMENTED: 71 0xa986fb0 to: 1
CALL: 182412672, 6
GETTING PEER!!!: 0x1091d758
DONE GETTING PEER!!!: 0x1091d758, 0x1091d758
IcedTeaPlugin.cc:4154: Error: call
GOT RETURN FROM CALL : 116470336
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: context 0 JavaScriptCall 116470336
Wrote 35 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue return
NOT IMPLEMENTED: virtual nsresult IcedTeaPluginInstance::Stop()
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::Destroy
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer
Writing to JVM: instance 1 destroy
Wrote 19 bytes to pipe
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::SendMessageToAppletViewer return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::Destroy return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue return
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue
ICEDTEA PLUGIN: Instance::GetValue return
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From farrellj at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 02:47:19 2008
From: farrellj at gmail.com (Jason Farrell)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:47:19 -0400
Subject: XO: Who ate my rpms
In-Reply-To: <1225313152.13184.92.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <4908C208.7070701@redhat.com>
	<1225311421.13184.88.camel@aglarond.local>
	<4908C817.7050309@redhat.com>
	<1225313152.13184.92.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <b3c915110810291947t2f21a66cw700ab8c24155dbc4@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Jeremy Katz <katzj at redhat.com> wrote:

> Out of space in the overlay manifests itself with weird hangs and
> non-obvious problems on boot.  Overlay resetting is at least relatively
> straight-forward :)
>

I can't count the number of times my usblive overlay has ran out of space
(starts with increasing numbers of ext3 errors at boot), requiring me to set
it back up again. Even a "huge" 8GB overlay doesn't last as long as you
would think it should. One thing I was very glad to see in F10live is that
it now has /var/cache/yum in tmpfs, which extends the life by quite a bit.

As long as we're not using a proper unionfs for persistence that *doesn't
die*, shouldn't there be an easier way to determine how much life is left in
the LVM snapshot before a reset is necessary?

--Jason
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From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 30 05:48:02 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:48:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081029 changes
Message-ID: <20081030054802.DFF621F824B@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Removed package atitvout
Updated Packages:

alienarena-7.20-5.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 7.20-5
- use /bin/bash for the scripts due to the export LD_LIBRARY_PATH


anjuta-2.24.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 1:2.24.1-1
- Version bump to 2.24.1.
- Makefile problems fixed by upstream.
- Added 'Requires: git' and 'BuildRequires: e2fsprogs-devel intltool'.
- libanjuta-egg.so has been dropped.


audit-1.7.8-6.fc10
------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 1.7.8-6
- Update specfile requires to include dist


audit-viewer-0.4-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Miloslav Trma? <mitr at redhat.com> - 0.4-1
- Update to audit-viewer-0.4.


bash-3.2-29.fc10
----------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 3.2-29
- Add the Requires(post) back for ncurses-libs, so that rpm knows
  where to break the loop.  The post actually does require the curses
  libs for the sh calls.  Could consider doing this in LUA and not have
  any external deps.


bigboard-0.6.4-2.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.6.4-2
- Add missing Requires: python-twyt

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.6.4-1
- Update to 0.6.4 (Fix Logout menu option not working)

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.6.3-1
- Update to 0.6.3


chkconfig-1.3.38-1
------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> 1.3.38-1
- Fix runlevel list in man page (#466739)
- translation updates


createrepo-0.9.6-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-1
- 0.9.6-1
- add mergerepo


desktop-data-model-1.2.5-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 1.2.5-1
- Update to 1.2.5 (adds BuildRequires: empathy)


dovecot-1.1.5-1.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 1:1.1.5-1
- update to upstream version 1.1.5 (Resolves: CVE-2008-4577, CVE-2008-4578)


fedora-release-notes-9.92-3
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> - 9.92-3
- Correct file names for Fedora 10 Preview Release

* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> - 9.92-2
- Update version for Fedora 10 Preview Release

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> - 9.92-1
- Bump version and release to match for F10 Preview Release
- Fix description
- Fix missing README content


generic-logos-10.0.1-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 10.0.1-1
- incorporate KDE logo into upstream source distribution
- fix system-logo-white.png for compiz bleeding (#468258)


gnome-desktop-2.24.1-4.fc10
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-4
- Take Requires: solar-backgrounds from libgnome so KDE
  spin doesn't pull it in (Requested by Rex).


gpgme-1.1.7-1.fc10
------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1.1.7-1
- gpgme-1.1.7


hal-0.5.12-9.20081027git.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-9.20081027git
- Remove the newly added BDI devices to fix #468850


hamcrest-1.1-6.1.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.1-6.1
- Fedora-specific: enable GCJ support
- Fedora-specific: build with java 1.6.0
- Fedora-specific: disable integration and tests

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.1-6
- make demo dependency on testng conditional


kde-settings-4.1-3.20081028svn.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.1-3
- kdmrc: ServerVTs=1 , drop tty1 from ConsoleTTYs
- kde-settings-20081028
- Url: fedorahosted.org/kde-settings


kdepimlibs-4.1.2-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-3
- build against the system libical (F10+ only for now)


libgnome-2.24.1-7.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-7
- move Requires: solar-backgrounds to gnome-desktop so
  KDE spin doesn't pull it in (Requested by Rex).


mdadm-2.6.7.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Doug Ledford <dledford at redhat.com> - 2.6.7.1-1
- Updated to latest upstream stable release (#466803)
- Change udev rule to not assemble degraded arrays (#453314)
- Fix metadata matching in config file (#466078)
- Fix assembly of raid10 devices (#444237)
- Fix incremental assembly of partitioned raid devices (#447818)


mtr-0.75-2.fc10
---------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Zdenek Prikryl <zprikryl at redhat.com> - 2:0.75-2
- Fixed setting socket flags in ipv4 only environment (#467964)


ntfs-3g-1.5012-3.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2:1.5012-3
- fix hal file to cover all mount cases (thanks to Richard Hughes)


online-desktop-0.3.2-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.3.2-1
- Update to 0.3.2
  - let gnome-keyring pick the right keyring instead of hardcoding "default"
  - fix unpacking error when adding new accounts
  - fix problem with locally saved accounts not properly updating
  - remove bigboard applet from default config (not useful any more)

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.3.1-1
- Update to 0.3.1


pads-1.2-2.fc10
---------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 1.2-2
- Update CFLAGS for newer libprelude (#465964)


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.7.fc10
----------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.7
- Don't require /bin/plymouth before it's installed (bug 468925)

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.6
- Force raw mode for keyboard input with solar and fade-in
  (bug 468880)
- make sure windows get closed on exit


rpm-4.6.0-0.rc1.6
-----------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Panu Matilainen <pmatilai at redhat.com>
- Florian's improved fingerprinting hash algorithm from upstream


spin-kickstarts-0.10.1-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip a fedoraunity.org> 0.10.1-1
- Second build for review #448072


system-config-boot-0.3.0-2.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Harald Hoyer <harald at redhat.com> 0.3.0-2
- reapplied changes by spot

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Harald Hoyer <harald at redhat.com> 0.3.0-1
- version 0.3.0


system-config-firewall-1.2.13-2.fc10
------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Woerner <twoerner at redhat.com> 1.2.13-2
- fixed system-config-firewall-tui path (rhbz#457485)

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Woerner <twoerner at redhat.com> 1.2.13-1
- fixed two typos in fw_icmp (rhbz#467334)
- added ability to sort custom rules files (rhbz#467696)
- fixed modified test in sysctl writer: fixes rhbz#462325
  also removed quotes around values for new keys
- some build fixes
- updated translations for: as, de, fi, fr, he, hi, ko, hu, it, ja, ko, ml,
                            pl, pt_BR, ru, sk, sr, sr at latin, sv, ta, te, 
                            zh_CN, zh_TW


system-config-network-1.5.93-2.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Harald Hoyer <harald at redhat.com> 1.5.93-2
- version 1.5.93


system-switch-java-1.1.4-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Deepak Bhole <dbhole at redhat.com> - 1.1.4-1
- Update to 1.1.4, which contains new translations

* Sat Sep  6 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.1.3-2
- fix license tag


usermode-1.98.1-1
-----------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Miloslav Trma? <mitr at redhat.com> - 1.98.1-1
- Update to usermode-1.98.1-1


xournal-0.4.2.1-2.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.4.2.1-2
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch (#463069)


yum-3.2.20-3.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.20-3
- full patch against HEAD for skipbroken fixes (among others)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 34
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)





From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 30 05:48:34 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:48:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081029 changes
Message-ID: <20081030054834.A3A411F824B@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Removed package atitvout
Updated Packages:

alienarena-7.20-5.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 7.20-5
- use /bin/bash for the scripts due to the export LD_LIBRARY_PATH


anjuta-2.24.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Debarshi Ray <rishi at fedoraproject.org> - 1:2.24.1-1
- Version bump to 2.24.1.
- Makefile problems fixed by upstream.
- Added 'Requires: git' and 'BuildRequires: e2fsprogs-devel intltool'.
- libanjuta-egg.so has been dropped.


audit-1.7.8-6.fc10
------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 1.7.8-6
- Update specfile requires to include dist


audit-viewer-0.4-1.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Miloslav Trma? <mitr at redhat.com> - 0.4-1
- Update to audit-viewer-0.4.


bash-3.2-29.fc10
----------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 3.2-29
- Add the Requires(post) back for ncurses-libs, so that rpm knows
  where to break the loop.  The post actually does require the curses
  libs for the sh calls.  Could consider doing this in LUA and not have
  any external deps.


bigboard-0.6.4-2.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.6.4-2
- Add missing Requires: python-twyt

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.6.4-1
- Update to 0.6.4 (Fix Logout menu option not working)

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.6.3-1
- Update to 0.6.3


chkconfig-1.3.38-1
------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> 1.3.38-1
- Fix runlevel list in man page (#466739)
- translation updates


createrepo-0.9.6-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 0.9.6-1
- 0.9.6-1
- add mergerepo


desktop-data-model-1.2.5-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 1.2.5-1
- Update to 1.2.5 (adds BuildRequires: empathy)


dovecot-1.1.5-1.fc10
--------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink at redhat.com> - 1:1.1.5-1
- update to upstream version 1.1.5 (Resolves: CVE-2008-4577, CVE-2008-4578)


fedora-release-notes-9.92-3
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> - 9.92-3
- Correct file names for Fedora 10 Preview Release

* Fri Oct 17 18:00:00 2008 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> - 9.92-2
- Update version for Fedora 10 Preview Release

* Thu Oct  2 18:00:00 2008 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> - 9.92-1
- Bump version and release to match for F10 Preview Release
- Fix description
- Fix missing README content


generic-logos-10.0.1-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> - 10.0.1-1
- incorporate KDE logo into upstream source distribution
- fix system-logo-white.png for compiz bleeding (#468258)


gnome-desktop-2.24.1-4.fc10
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-4
- Take Requires: solar-backgrounds from libgnome so KDE
  spin doesn't pull it in (Requested by Rex).


gpgme-1.1.7-1.fc10
------------------
* Sat Oct 18 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 1.1.7-1
- gpgme-1.1.7


hal-0.5.12-9.20081027git.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.5.12-9.20081027git
- Remove the newly added BDI devices to fix #468850


hamcrest-1.1-6.1.fc10
---------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.1-6.1
- Fedora-specific: enable GCJ support
- Fedora-specific: build with java 1.6.0
- Fedora-specific: disable integration and tests

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 David Walluck <dwalluck at redhat.com> 0:1.1-6
- make demo dependency on testng conditional


kde-settings-4.1-3.20081028svn.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.1-3
- kdmrc: ServerVTs=1 , drop tty1 from ConsoleTTYs
- kde-settings-20081028
- Url: fedorahosted.org/kde-settings


kdepimlibs-4.1.2-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 4.1.2-3
- build against the system libical (F10+ only for now)


libgnome-2.24.1-7.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> - 2.24.1-7
- move Requires: solar-backgrounds to gnome-desktop so
  KDE spin doesn't pull it in (Requested by Rex).


mdadm-2.6.7.1-1.fc10
--------------------
* Fri Oct 24 18:00:00 2008 Doug Ledford <dledford at redhat.com> - 2.6.7.1-1
- Updated to latest upstream stable release (#466803)
- Change udev rule to not assemble degraded arrays (#453314)
- Fix metadata matching in config file (#466078)
- Fix assembly of raid10 devices (#444237)
- Fix incremental assembly of partitioned raid devices (#447818)


mtr-0.75-2.fc10
---------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Zdenek Prikryl <zprikryl at redhat.com> - 2:0.75-2
- Fixed setting socket flags in ipv4 only environment (#467964)


ntfs-3g-1.5012-3.fc10
---------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 2:1.5012-3
- fix hal file to cover all mount cases (thanks to Richard Hughes)


online-desktop-0.3.2-1.fc10
---------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.3.2-1
- Update to 0.3.2
  - let gnome-keyring pick the right keyring instead of hardcoding "default"
  - fix unpacking error when adding new accounts
  - fix problem with locally saved accounts not properly updating
  - remove bigboard applet from default config (not useful any more)

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Owen Taylor <otaylor at redhat.com> - 0.3.1-1
- Update to 0.3.1


pads-1.2-2.fc10
---------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> 1.2-2
- Update CFLAGS for newer libprelude (#465964)


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.7.fc10
----------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.7
- Don't require /bin/plymouth before it's installed (bug 468925)

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.6
- Force raw mode for keyboard input with solar and fade-in
  (bug 468880)
- make sure windows get closed on exit


rpm-4.6.0-0.rc1.6
-----------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Panu Matilainen <pmatilai at redhat.com>
- Florian's improved fingerprinting hash algorithm from upstream


spin-kickstarts-0.10.1-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip a fedoraunity.org> 0.10.1-1
- Second build for review #448072


system-config-boot-0.3.0-2.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Harald Hoyer <harald at redhat.com> 0.3.0-2
- reapplied changes by spot

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Harald Hoyer <harald at redhat.com> 0.3.0-1
- version 0.3.0


system-config-firewall-1.2.13-2.fc10
------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Woerner <twoerner at redhat.com> 1.2.13-2
- fixed system-config-firewall-tui path (rhbz#457485)

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Thomas Woerner <twoerner at redhat.com> 1.2.13-1
- fixed two typos in fw_icmp (rhbz#467334)
- added ability to sort custom rules files (rhbz#467696)
- fixed modified test in sysctl writer: fixes rhbz#462325
  also removed quotes around values for new keys
- some build fixes
- updated translations for: as, de, fi, fr, he, hi, ko, hu, it, ja, ko, ml,
                            pl, pt_BR, ru, sk, sr, sr at latin, sv, ta, te, 
                            zh_CN, zh_TW


system-config-network-1.5.93-2.fc10
-----------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Harald Hoyer <harald at redhat.com> 1.5.93-2
- version 1.5.93


system-switch-java-1.1.4-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Deepak Bhole <dbhole at redhat.com> - 1.1.4-1
- Update to 1.1.4, which contains new translations

* Sat Sep  6 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 1.1.3-2
- fix license tag


usermode-1.98.1-1
-----------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Miloslav Trma? <mitr at redhat.com> - 1.98.1-1
- Update to usermode-1.98.1-1


xournal-0.4.2.1-2.fc10
----------------------
* Sun Sep 21 18:00:00 2008 Ville Skytt? <ville.skytta at iki.fi> - 0.4.2.1-2
- Fix Patch0:/%patch mismatch (#463069)


yum-3.2.20-3.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.20-3
- full patch against HEAD for skipbroken fixes (among others)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 34
Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.i386 requires librpm-4.4.so



Broken deps for x86_64
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.x86_64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)



Broken deps for ppc
----------------------------------------------------------
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmdb-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmio-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpmbuild-4.4.so
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc requires librpm-4.4.so



Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmdb-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmbuild-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpmio-4.4.so()(64bit)
	ruby-rpm-1.2.3-4.fc9.ppc64 requires librpm-4.4.so()(64bit)





From johannbg at hi.is  Thu Oct 30 08:20:38 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:20:38 +0000
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
 test!)
In-Reply-To: <4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <49096E56.3010903@hi.is>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> As some of you already know, we have been working on getting Liveconnect
>> support into Fedora 10 via the new Iced Tea Plugin. Liveconnect is a 
>> feature that allows JavaScript from a browser (Firefox) to access 
>> Java, and vice-versa. The newest build of OpenJDK 
>> (java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-2b12.fc10 --
>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=907625) should have
>> the latest of the plugin code. This will be in tomorrow's (2008-10-28)
>> rawhide.
>
> Can you check
>
> http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/en/archive_lk08.htm
>
> The video didn't used to work before but now I see it. Unfortunately I 
> don't hear the audio yet. It uses a Java applet (the fluendo one) to 
> do the streaming.
>
> Rahul
>
>
>
>
>
>
The Video ( play's and play and pause button work not the volume button 
) and audio plays.

JBG

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From ml at hejoe.de  Thu Oct 30 10:53:38 2008
From: ml at hejoe.de (Michael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=F6blich?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:53:38 +0100
Subject: f10 anaconda-11.4.1.52 kickstart firewall --ssh
In-Reply-To: <4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org> <20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
	<4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1225364018.24644.32.camel@gsxhost.hejoe.int>

Specifying line
"firewall --enabled --ssh"
in my kickstart file generates following installation output:
"--ssh option requires an argument"
Which argument? Bug or feature?

Regards,
 Michael



From ndbecker2 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 11:19:51 2008
From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:19:51 -0400
Subject: snap3 live testing
Message-ID: <gec58o$v1n$1@ger.gmane.org>

I'd like to give snap3 a test.  I want to try a live media test (not HD install).

I see live cd media, but does the dvd include a live option?  (That would give more software, and probably faster operation)  Is my only live option the cd?



From schaiba at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 11:41:28 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:41:28 +0200
Subject: snap3 live testing
In-Reply-To: <gec58o$v1n$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gec58o$v1n$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <778179b00810300441g47e0de1dp654924c6a4b4b3a9@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Neal Becker <ndbecker2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like to give snap3 a test.  I want to try a live media test (not HD
> install).
>
> I see live cd media, but does the dvd include a live option?  (That would
> give more software, and probably faster operation)  Is my only live option
> the cd?
>
> --
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>


I'd say a live cd would give you faster operation and, if you want other
software, yum install does the trick for you.
-- 
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schaiba at fedoraproject.org
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From drago01 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 11:47:09 2008
From: drago01 at gmail.com (drago01)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:47:09 +0100
Subject: Java browser plugin/Liveconnect support status (and request to
	test!)
In-Reply-To: <20081029225815.GB12044@redhat.com>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
	<4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029204649.GD1643@redhat.com>
	<4908E814.1040007@puzzled.xs4all.nl>
	<20081029225815.GB12044@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <f6ca9fed0810300447x1631bci48261e358523cdf8@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Deepak Bhole <dbhole at redhat.com> wrote:
> * Patrick <fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl> [2008-10-29 18:48]:
>> Deepak Bhole wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any other copies of firefox running? You need to make sure all
>>> instances are closed. Once that is confirmed, doing
>>> 'ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox' on the console should produce debug
>>> output.
>>
>
> Ah, that segfault was a nasty 64-bit-only bug. Which version of the openjdk
> rpm are you using? I fixed that issue in the latest build here:
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=67796
>
> Please try it again with that one.. for some reason it has no hit
> rawhide yet even though it was built 2 days ago.

You have to ask rel-eng to tag your build for rawhide.



From schaiba at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 11:56:54 2008
From: schaiba at gmail.com (Aioanei Rares)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:56:54 +0200
Subject: Plymouth on ATI and nVidia
In-Reply-To: <1225302348.3976.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1225202550.25490.6.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<db64ccf0810280728v4cb1207k18445f586ac6d4ff@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225205595.26404.8.camel@spikehome.spikenet.local>
	<385866f0810281116v6380cb14g4c893b847337bdfd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225288162.3561.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49087892.50603@hi.is>
	<1225297383.11936.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<49088F16.3090205@fedoraproject.org>
	<778179b00810290934xc69cb1cgda7d411596e37336@mail.gmail.com>
	<1225302348.3976.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <778179b00810300456j347383a3q45ee0ad80f942c7e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Christopher A. Williams <
chriswfedora at cawllc.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 18:34 +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram
> > <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >         Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >                 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:52 +0000, "J?hann B.
> >                 Gu?mundsson" wrote:
> >                         First of all
> >                         Nvidia does not work and so far and there is
> >                         nothing that indicates it will work in the
> >                         near future.
> >
> >                 Truly a bummer! Given the large number of nVidia card
> >                 users there are, I
> >                 would think this should be more of a priority. Please
> >                 don't let this
> >                 turn into a philosophical discussion (aka a flame
> >                 fest) on nVidia vs.
> >                 others. A lot of people use nVidia cards - we need to
> >                 deal with that and
> >                 respond to the end user population accordingly...
> >
> >
> >         Not philosophical. Just a matter of not having the source code
> >         to fix the proprietary drivers. However the reverse
> >         engineering effort can yield some results albeit in a delayed
> >         manner. Refer
> >
> >
> >
> http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-better-startup/
>
> <snip...>
> >
> > If I append "vga=0x318" to my kernel options in menu.lst for example,
> > i can see the nice plymouth effects (GeForce 8500 GTS) So would it
> > hurt if we would add this option as the default in grub as a
> > (temporary) workaround? Are there cards that don't scale well with
> > "vga=0x318" ?
>
> Interesting... I just tried appending "vga=0x318" to my kernel options.
> It didn't work outright, but...
>
> ...It DID error out and give me a list of scanned VGA options. I
> selected one of them at random (vga=0x323) and "Graphical Plymouth" came
> to life in all its glory.
>
> Given the other feedback, this seems to also work for nVidia cards.
>
> So, why COULDN't we  have Plymouth (or a set of appropriate kernel
> options) do something like:
> 1) scan for an appropriate and usable VESA mode for these cards
> 2) Upon discovering there's a really nice one we can use, go with that
> one
> 3) Then fail back to text mode only after nothing available in a
> reasonable VESA mode works.
>
> Solves the problem from what I can tell...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> --
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> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>


Sounds nice to me, but I reckon we won't see that in F10.
-- 
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schaiba at fedoraproject.org
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From mk at crc.dk  Thu Oct 30 12:15:52 2008
From: mk at crc.dk (Mogens Kjaer)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:15:52 +0100
Subject: Network manager's choosing of access point?
Message-ID: <4909A578.3080001@crc.dk>

x86_64, F10snap3 updated to rawhide.

My PC can see more than one access point, all of which
run WPA PSK and the keys are in my keyring.

Why does NM choose the AP with the lowest signal? Never
the AP which is right next to the machine.

Is there any way to control this?

Mogens

-- 
Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department
Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark
Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25
Email: mk at crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 14:16:48 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:46:48 -0430
Subject: f10 anaconda-11.4.1.52 kickstart firewall --ssh
In-Reply-To: <1225364018.24644.32.camel@gsxhost.hejoe.int>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org> <20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
	<4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
	<1225364018.24644.32.camel@gsxhost.hejoe.int>
Message-ID: <1225376208.16880.45.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 11:53 +0100, Michael L?blich wrote:
> Specifying line
> "firewall --enabled --ssh"
> in my kickstart file generates following installation output:
> "--ssh option requires an argument"
> Which argument? Bug or feature?

Don't hijack threads.

poc



From niftyfedora at niftyegg.com  Thu Oct 30 15:06:23 2008
From: niftyfedora at niftyegg.com (Nifty Fedora Mitch)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:06:23 -0700
Subject: Selinux and Compiz
In-Reply-To: <6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <490395C6.3070906@omen.com>
	<6d06ce20810251659g65e02869vd4997b0da9299528@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081026151338.GA11160@wolff.to>
	<6d06ce20810261139p71180095uba2cda51034e87bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081030150623.GA3240@compegg.wr.niftyegg.com>

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 01:39:40PM -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 18:59:12 -0500,
> >  Jerry Amundson <jamundso at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Yep, I say leave the question out of the installer, and default it to
> >> *disabled*.
> >
> > Disabled is the worst of the three options because you will need to do a
> > relabel if you ever turn it back on. And you don't get useful logs of any
> > problems.
> 
> I repeat. I think disabled is the best option for the largest
> audience. Overall, the majority of time spent re-labeling occurs when
> we disable selinux in firstboot.
> No selinux. No problems. Everything else that needs to be logged gets logged.
> 
> Very simple. Disable SElinux by default. Enable it (at firstboot,
> etc.) if you want it. The world becomes a better computing place. :)
a
The best solution is for nVidea to get with the program.
Rather than snipe at each other each of us with nVidea
hardware should send them a note.

The performance delta is very real so yes I want acceleration...
and more importantly I do vote with my wallet.

 

-- 
	T o m  M i t c h e l l 
	Found me a new hat, now what?



From clumens at redhat.com  Thu Oct 30 15:15:25 2008
From: clumens at redhat.com (Chris Lumens)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:15:25 -0400
Subject: f10 anaconda-11.4.1.52 kickstart firewall --ssh
In-Reply-To: <1225364018.24644.32.camel@gsxhost.hejoe.int>
References: <20081027205553.GE32344@redhat.com>
	<4908C5BF.3030900@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081029203605.GC1643@redhat.com>
	<4908CB17.4000101@fedoraproject.org>
	<1225364018.24644.32.camel@gsxhost.hejoe.int>
Message-ID: <20081030151524.GB11925@localhost.localdomain>

> Specifying line
> "firewall --enabled --ssh"
> in my kickstart file generates following installation output:
> "--ssh option requires an argument"
> Which argument? Bug or feature?

Bug, but I've just committed a fix to this in pykickstart and hopefully
it'll be in tomorrow's tree.

- Chris



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Thu Oct 30 15:59:19 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:59:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081030 changes
Message-ID: <20081030155919.9A9F01F824B@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Thu Oct 30 06:01:10 UTC 2008

Removed package ruby-rpm
Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.4.1.53-1
--------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 David Cantrell <dcantrell at redhat.com> - 11.4.1.53-1
- Don't sleep(5) after xrandr (ajax)
- Force DPI to 96 even harder (#458738) (ajax)
- Don't try to switch VT to the one that X is on (ajax)
- Only copy /etc/resolv.conf if instPath != '/' (dcantrell)
- 'is not' -> '!=' (dcantrell)
- Write --dhcpclass instead of --class to the anaconda ks file. (jgranado)
- Fix 2 issues in pyparted found by pychecker (hdegoede)
- Add a bit of documentation to the top of runpychecker.sh (hdegoede)
- Add runpychecker.sh script and pychecker-false-positives file (hdegoede)
- Fix saving tracebacks via scp while in text mode. (clumens)
- Search for the hash in the whiteboard, not as the entire whiteboard.
  (clumens)
- Fix various syntax errors caught by PyChecker (hdegoede)
- Wouldn't it be nice to have some real documentation in filer.py? (clumens)
- Make sure the productVersion given by .treeinfo exists in bugzilla
  (#468657). (clumens)


ed-1.1-1.fc10
-------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Karsten Hopp <karsten at redhat.com> 1.1-1
- update to lastest version, fixes CVE-2008-3916


kdenetwork-4.1.2-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct 20 18:00:00 2008 Luk?? Tinkl <ltinkl at redhat.com> 4.1.2-3
- fix kopete crashes on logout (kdebug:172011), in the account editor
  (kdebug:172985) and during login (kdebug:172997)


mash-0.4.2-2.fc10
-----------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 0.4.2-2
- Ignore the F10 key in favor of F10-beta key for now, until all builds are
  written out with the F10 key.  This prevents us from falling back to
  unsigned packages.


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-37.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-37
- fix memory leak in -ati driver (#469024)

* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-36
- radeon-6.9.0-add-hd3300.patch - add missing pciid (#466706)
- radeon-6.9.0-quirk-agp.patch - from Ubuntu.

* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 6.9.0-35
- radeon-6.9.0-bgnr-enable.patch - enable bg none when kms enabled (#468879)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 5









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot





From cra at WPI.EDU  Thu Oct 30 19:37:33 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:37:33 -0400
Subject: rawhide testing results
Message-ID: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

Here's my comments on installing rawhide today.  I'll work on 
researching/opening bugs when I have more time.

Dell Optiplex GX620.  Radeon X600, two Dell 2001FP monitors whose 
native resolution is 1600x1200, connected via DVI.  I installed to a 
new LV created out of free space on an existing VG that was on an 
encrypted PV.  Otherwise I chose mostly defaults throughout the 
installer.

1. Anaconda font was too small.  It was hard to read the text.  It may 
be that the wrong resolution or DPI was chosen.  See also #2.

2. Default dual-head "clone" or "mirror" mode behaves strangely with 
KMS.  In Anaconda, the 2nd monitor didn't scale the image to fit the 
LCD, but the 1st monitor did.  When changing VT's back to X/Anaconda, 
the 2nd monitor no longer mirrored the 1st.  Instead, a frozen version 
of whatever the last text console contents were left behind on the 2nd 
monitor.

3. Lots of Anaconda warnings about unreadable partition tables for 
devices: ram0 - ram15, dm-0, loop0, etc.  Had to manually ignore all 
these warnings many times.

4. Anaconda warning about "unable to determine geometry of file/device 
/dev/loopX" for loop1 - loop7.  Had to manually ignore this many 
times.

5. Partitioning screen selections/data is cleared when starting to 
format the filesystems.  This is kinda scary since it leads you to 
believe that all your partitions/devices were deleted.  In actuality, 
everything is fine.

6. No UUIDs are shown on the Partitioning screen.  It would be nice to 
have these for when you are working with existing disks and you have 
an old fstab printed out on paper so you can match up the devices with 
the UUID= lines in the fstab.

7. initrd failed to decrypt root fs on bootup after installing.  This 
was fixed with a new mkinitrd: 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468856

8. After fixing #7, I get prompted for the password to unlock the PV 
(/dev/sda7 in this case).  Then I get prompted again, and again, etc. 
up to 4 or 5 times.  Each time I enter the correct password.  What is 
interesting is that the first time I'm asked (presumeably from the 
initrd) the font is different and it doesn't say which device I'm 
unlocking.  The other 4 times (presumably from the rc.sysinit) it says 
it needs to unlock /dev/sda7.  The system boots up fine after entering 
the correct password multiple times.

9. "telinit 3" keeps the keyboard in raw mode or something like that.  
Every key you hit prints a weird different character.  There is no way 
to log into the getty like this.  Had to reboot remotely from SSH.

10. Still need to create an xorg.conf file to do dual head because 
spare memory isn't reserved for the larger virtual resolution. 
System->Preferences->Hardware->Screen Resolution still fails to notify 
the user when xrandr fails because of this.  Uncheck "mirror", drag 
monitors side-by-side, click Apply, nothing happens.  Also, it's still 
hard to tell which monitor is which in the applet, even with the green 
and red identifying blocks, because in clone/mirror mode, both blocks 
are green!  Bad user interface experience.

11. After creating xorg.conf with virtual resolution to encompass 
3200x1200, dual-head mode doesn't really play nice with KMS.  Had lots 
of issues with the 2nd monitor going blank/off and not being turned on 
again, xrandr not configuring dual-head properly, etc.  Had to turn 
off KMS by adding "nomodeset" to grub.conf.

12. Metacity displays the window menu for each window on the left head 
no matter what.  For windows that are actually on the left head, 
everything works correctly.  For windows that are on the right head, 
the menu is disembodied from the window it belongs to, all by itself 
on the left head, usually at the far right edge of the left monitor. 
(my main monitor is on the right, left one is secondary).

That's it for now.



From jkeating at redhat.com  Thu Oct 30 20:58:45 2008
From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:58:45 -0700
Subject: rawhide testing results
In-Reply-To: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <1225400326.27779.4.camel@luminos.localdomain>

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:37 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> Here's my comments on installing rawhide today.  I'll work on 
> researching/opening bugs when I have more time.

You're a day or so behind on your rawhide.  You need to be using the
tree from 20081030  The x86_64 .treeinfo has timestamp = 1225381323.38

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature!
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From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct 30 21:20:26 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:20:26 -0400
Subject: XO: Could not update .ICEAuthority
Message-ID: <490A251A.8020709@redhat.com>

I had been getting this error after autologin, so I re-installed 
everything (new SD card files and removed /home/liveuser directory from 
within sugar). On the next reboot, I ge thte same error:

Could not update .ICEAuthority file /home/liveuser/.ICEauthority

Any ideas what I have done? I did remove the replace_overlay command in 
the boot line. Could that be it?

-- bk



From davidsen at tmr.com  Thu Oct 30 22:06:35 2008
From: davidsen at tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:06:35 -0400
Subject: Will shared swap bite me?
Message-ID: <490A2FEB.6060101@tmr.com>

I have to set up a machine as dual boot 32/64 bit and I would really love to not 
waste space on swap partitions being duplicated if I don't have to. That said, 
if I do two installs and use the same swap partition, what evil will come of it?

The only obvious issue I see is suspending the non-default kernel and trying to 
boot the other (found that in FC6) and I can avoid that. Any other know issues I 
have to avoid?

The object is to run one 64 bit program without reinstalling the whole stable 32 
bit environment.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From katzj at redhat.com  Thu Oct 30 22:08:09 2008
From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:08:09 -0400
Subject: XO: Could not update .ICEAuthority
In-Reply-To: <490A251A.8020709@redhat.com>
References: <490A251A.8020709@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1225404489.25818.393.camel@aglarond.local>

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 17:20 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> I had been getting this error after autologin, so I re-installed 
> everything (new SD card files and removed /home/liveuser directory from 
> within sugar). On the next reboot, I ge thte same error:
> 
> Could not update .ICEAuthority file /home/liveuser/.ICEauthority

When do you get the error?  Any selinux denials in dmesg/ausearch -m
avc?

> Any ideas what I have done? I did remove the replace_overlay command in 
> the boot line. Could that be it?

Not having replace_overlay does seem to have a few interesting side
effects I've noticed, but I wouldn't expect this to be one of them

Jeremy



From bkearney at redhat.com  Thu Oct 30 22:31:02 2008
From: bkearney at redhat.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:31:02 -0400
Subject: XO: Could not update .ICEAuthority
In-Reply-To: <1225404489.25818.393.camel@aglarond.local>
References: <490A251A.8020709@redhat.com>
	<1225404489.25818.393.camel@aglarond.local>
Message-ID: <490A35A6.8070205@redhat.com>

Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 17:20 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> I had been getting this error after autologin, so I re-installed 
>> everything (new SD card files and removed /home/liveuser directory from 
>> within sugar). On the next reboot, I ge thte same error:
>>
>> Could not update .ICEAuthority file /home/liveuser/.ICEauthority
> 
> When do you get the error?  Any selinux denials in dmesg/ausearch -m
> avc?

After the grub screen goes away. The machine hangs.. and I can not go on.

-- bk



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Fri Oct 31 00:28:45 2008
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:28:45 +0900
Subject: Note to testers of F10: scanbuttond
Message-ID: <490A513D.8050300@herakles.homelinux.org>

I've just updated an FC5 system to F9 and one of the benefits is that 
the attached HP Laserjet 3052 (multifunction printer scanner copier) now 
works as a printer. Indeed, it "just works."

I thought to try scanning, and discovered scanbuttond which seems a 
wonderful idea, except as installed it doesn't actually work.

It has a startup script to run it as a daemon, and is supposed to run 
various programs when a "scan" button is pressed. I used quotes because, 
judging from the comments, it is supposed to handle buttons for 
scanning, printing, emailing (but not, as far as I could see) faxing.

However, it doesn't seem to recognise my scanner, and even it it did it 
would not work. It calls scanimage with the argument "-depth 8" and 
scanimage, in F9, does not understand that.

It gets a little worse.
The script, that is supposed to run a part of the daemon process can 
call the Gimp and  Thunderbird, depending on which button is pressed. I 
don't know a way a daemon process, even one running as root, can open a 
GUI on a user's desktop.

It seems to me that it needs a little testing, and that it didn't get it 
before release in F9.

At the very least, "--depth" has to be removed from the scanimage 
command (unless F10's scanimage understands it). If testers with HP MFPs 
and such can test it, that would be really good. I don't have an HP MFP 
and F10 system close enough to do any testing.

I note that there are shared libraries for other brands, it might be 
that the task of getting it working with scanbuttond might not be trivial.

btw  The package needs improvement, conf files aren't flagged as conf 
files and doc files aren't flagged as doc files, and a man page would be 
really good. Debian may have one (Debian rules require it).
  And, the script that is urn when a button is pressed has internal 
configuration. That should be stripped into a separate file and sourced, 
so as to facilitate fixing other bugs in the script, such as "--depth" 
I've mentioned.

Have fUn!




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From cra at WPI.EDU  Fri Oct 31 00:38:03 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:38:03 -0400
Subject: rawhide testing results
In-Reply-To: <1225400326.27779.4.camel@luminos.localdomain>
References: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<1225400326.27779.4.camel@luminos.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20081031003803.GD25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:58:45PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:37 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > Here's my comments on installing rawhide today.  I'll work on 
> > researching/opening bugs when I have more time.
> 
> You're a day or so behind on your rawhide.  You need to be using the
> tree from 20081030  The x86_64 .treeinfo has timestamp = 1225381323.38

Well darn.  I sync 4 times a day from ibiblio, and that isn't new 
enough.  I guess red-hatters can test things before they hit rawhide 
mirrors.

Is this for all of my issues, or just some?  Which ones?



From sundaram at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 31 00:39:58 2008
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:09:58 +0530
Subject: rawhide testing results
In-Reply-To: <20081031003803.GD25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>	<1225400326.27779.4.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081031003803.GD25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <490A53DE.9060603@fedoraproject.org>

Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:58:45PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:37 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
>>> Here's my comments on installing rawhide today.  I'll work on 
>>> researching/opening bugs when I have more time.
>> You're a day or so behind on your rawhide.  You need to be using the
>> tree from 20081030  The x86_64 .treeinfo has timestamp = 1225381323.38
> 
> Well darn.  I sync 4 times a day from ibiblio, and that isn't new 
> enough.  I guess red-hatters can test things before they hit rawhide 
> mirrors.

Well, everybody can from http://koji.fedoraproject.org. There is no 
special access. There was once upon a time, before the Fedora 7 release 
but those days are long gone.

Rahul



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 31 00:40:55 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:40:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: fedora 10 beta ==> current rawhide
Message-ID: <572546.54558.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear all,

I have gotten a new machine and I installed Fedora 10 Beta and currently updating it to current rawhide 1.3 GB of updates are coming in currently.  I formatted the root partition ext4(used ext4dev).  Last time I tried that, I could not boot to latest kernel, I am asking if I should change the /etc/fstab to ext4 because the one that I had before had ext4dev and the newer kernel(s) had ext4 only.  Should I change it now that I can and reboot and boot into the newer 2.6.27.4-5??.fc10 kernel?  

I could not submit smolt profile since the machine was not on the network.  I manually assigned an IP to get the updates.  Tomorrow in the morning I will see what happens.  Thanks for advice/suggestions offered.

Regards,

Antonio

BTW:
before the snapshot issue comes up, I cannot get torrent files.  I can only get the releases from mirrors.  I wanted to try a network install, but the documentation is not current and I do not want to ask for a nice howto that might not be available.  


      



From cra at WPI.EDU  Fri Oct 31 00:43:12 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:43:12 -0400
Subject: rawhide testing results
In-Reply-To: <490A53DE.9060603@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<1225400326.27779.4.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081031003803.GD25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<490A53DE.9060603@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20081031004312.GE25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:09:58AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Chuck Anderson wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:58:45PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:37 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
>>>> Here's my comments on installing rawhide today.  I'll work on  
>>>> researching/opening bugs when I have more time.
>>> You're a day or so behind on your rawhide.  You need to be using the
>>> tree from 20081030  The x86_64 .treeinfo has timestamp = 1225381323.38
>>
>> Well darn.  I sync 4 times a day from ibiblio, and that isn't new  
>> enough.  I guess red-hatters can test things before they hit rawhide  
>> mirrors.
>
> Well, everybody can from http://koji.fedoraproject.org. There is no  
> special access. There was once upon a time, before the Fedora 7 release  
> but those days are long gone.

Oh, yeah!  How do I configure yum to point to that?

Thanks.



From cra at WPI.EDU  Fri Oct 31 00:46:05 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:46:05 -0400
Subject: Will shared swap bite me?
In-Reply-To: <490A2FEB.6060101@tmr.com>
References: <490A2FEB.6060101@tmr.com>
Message-ID: <20081031004605.GF25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:06:35PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> I have to set up a machine as dual boot 32/64 bit and I would really love 
> to not waste space on swap partitions being duplicated if I don't have 
> to. That said, if I do two installs and use the same swap partition, what 
> evil will come of it?

No problems.  I do it all the time when testing/switching between 
different Fedora releases.

> The only obvious issue I see is suspending the non-default kernel and 
> trying to boot the other (found that in FC6) and I can avoid that. Any 
> other know issues I have to avoid?

Yeah, you definately don't want to hibernate to swap on one OS and try 
to boot the other.  You'll just lose your hibernated system and leave 
the filesystems in inconsistent state.  In general it is very bad to 
boot /anything/ other that the original hibernated kernel when after 
you have hibernated.  That's why grub doesn't show you a menu when you 
boot up in a hibernated state.

> The object is to run one 64 bit program without reinstalling the whole 
> stable 32 bit environment.

Why not go all 64-bit?  I've been using it, and have had zero issues 
with 32/64 bit compatibility.



From cra at WPI.EDU  Fri Oct 31 01:36:52 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:36:52 -0400
Subject: ncurses wasn't installed -> no tput/clear/reset commands
Message-ID: <20081031013652.GA30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

Apparently nothing in the default install set requires ncurses, so 
that leaves the system missing the commands "tput", "clear" and 
"reset", the first of which at least is used by the default login 
scripts:

#grep -r tput /etc/profile*
/etc/profile.d/colorls.csh:  if ( "`tput colors`" == "256" ) then
/etc/profile.d/colorls.sh:      [ "x`tput colors 2>/dev/null`" = 
"x256" ] && \

I get an error when I open a new shell with tcsh:

tput: Command not found.

I guess the provider of /etc/profile.d/colorls.* (coreutils) should 
Requires: ncurses?  Or should this be put into comps?

"clear" and "reset" are such a basic commands I'd expect them to 
always be there.  My .logout has had "clear" in it for more than 10 
years...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469277



From pocallaghan at gmail.com  Fri Oct 31 01:39:33 2008
From: pocallaghan at gmail.com (Patrick O'Callaghan)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:09:33 -0430
Subject: rawhide testing results
In-Reply-To: <20081031004312.GE25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<1225400326.27779.4.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081031003803.GD25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<490A53DE.9060603@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081031004312.GE25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <1225417173.1445.33.camel@bree.homelinux.com>

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 20:43 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:09:58AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Chuck Anderson wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:58:45PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:37 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> >>>> Here's my comments on installing rawhide today.  I'll work on  
> >>>> researching/opening bugs when I have more time.
> >>> You're a day or so behind on your rawhide.  You need to be using the
> >>> tree from 20081030  The x86_64 .treeinfo has timestamp = 1225381323.38
> >>
> >> Well darn.  I sync 4 times a day from ibiblio, and that isn't new  
> >> enough.  I guess red-hatters can test things before they hit rawhide  
> >> mirrors.
> >
> > Well, everybody can from http://koji.fedoraproject.org. There is no  
> > special access. There was once upon a time, before the Fedora 7 release  
> > but those days are long gone.
> 
> Oh, yeah!  How do I configure yum to point to that?

You don't. It's not a repo, it's an FTP server. Download what you need
and use "yum localinstall foo1.rpm foo2.rpm ..."

poc



From cra at WPI.EDU  Fri Oct 31 01:56:17 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:56:17 -0400
Subject: rawhide testing results
In-Reply-To: <1225417173.1445.33.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
References: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<1225400326.27779.4.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081031003803.GD25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<490A53DE.9060603@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081031004312.GE25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<1225417173.1445.33.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <20081031015617.GB30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 09:09:33PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 20:43 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:09:58AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > > Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:58:45PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:37 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > >>>> Here's my comments on installing rawhide today.  I'll work on  
> > >>>> researching/opening bugs when I have more time.
> > >>> You're a day or so behind on your rawhide.  You need to be using the
> > >>> tree from 20081030  The x86_64 .treeinfo has timestamp = 1225381323.38
> > >>
> > >> Well darn.  I sync 4 times a day from ibiblio, and that isn't new  
> > >> enough.  I guess red-hatters can test things before they hit rawhide  
> > >> mirrors.
> > >
> > > Well, everybody can from http://koji.fedoraproject.org. There is no  
> > > special access. There was once upon a time, before the Fedora 7 release  
> > > but those days are long gone.
> > 
> > Oh, yeah!  How do I configure yum to point to that?
> 
> You don't. It's not a repo, it's an FTP server. Download what you need
> and use "yum localinstall foo1.rpm foo2.rpm ..."

Yeah, I kinda knew that, but was hoping there was a better way.  I 
thought there had been discussion at one point of running createrepo 
on kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org.

I was hoping for a more useful response to my first actual question, 
which was "Is this for all of my issues, or just some?  Which ones?" 
so that I didn't have to waste my time re-testing everything in the 
list to find out which ones I do/don't need to report in bugzilla.

I'm going to go on the assumption that Jesse meant that the Anaconda 
bugs were already fixed, because I won't get a chance to test a new 
install again right away.  So I'll focus on the other issues which I 
*can* retest somewhat more easily (but not as easily as typing "yum 
update") by checking for updates in koji manually.



From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Fri Oct 31 02:11:39 2008
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:11:39 +0900
Subject: Will shared swap bite me?
In-Reply-To: <20081031004605.GF25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <490A2FEB.6060101@tmr.com>
	<20081031004605.GF25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <490A695B.2070305@herakles.homelinux.org>

Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:06:35PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> I have to set up a machine as dual boot 32/64 bit and I would really love 
>> to not waste space on swap partitions being duplicated if I don't have 
>> to. That said, if I do two installs and use the same swap partition, what 
>> evil will come of it?
> 
> No problems.  I do it all the time when testing/switching between 
> different Fedora releases.
> 
>> The only obvious issue I see is suspending the non-default kernel and 
>> trying to boot the other (found that in FC6) and I can avoid that. Any 
>> other know issues I have to avoid?
> 
> Yeah, you definately don't want to hibernate to swap on one OS and try 
> to boot the other.  You'll just lose your hibernated system and leave 
> the filesystems in inconsistent state.  In general it is very bad to 
> boot /anything/ other that the original hibernated kernel when after 
> you have hibernated.  That's why grub doesn't show you a menu when you 
> boot up in a hibernated state.

_I_ don't think I'd like that. I _can_ hibernate Windows, run Linux, 
then resume Windows. I've not hibernated Linux at all except 
accidentally (FC3 I recalled resumed then shutdown, I lost interest then).

> 
>> The object is to run one 64 bit program without reinstalling the whole 
>> stable 32 bit environment.
> 
> Why not go all 64-bit?  I've been using it, and have had zero issues 
> with 32/64 bit compatibility.
> 
I've been running pure 64-bit Fedora and SL5 with no problems that 
concerned me: I don't know what, if any, browser plugins work, and don't 
really care. I don't like flash!



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From debian at herakles.homelinux.org  Fri Oct 31 02:16:47 2008
From: debian at herakles.homelinux.org (John Summerfield)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:16:47 +0900
Subject: ncurses wasn't installed -> no tput/clear/reset commands
In-Reply-To: <20081031013652.GA30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081031013652.GA30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <490A6A8F.1070603@herakles.homelinux.org>

Chuck Anderson wrote:
> Apparently nothing in the default install set requires ncurses, so 
> that leaves the system missing the commands "tput", "clear" and 
> "reset", the first of which at least is used by the default login 
> scripts:
> 
> #grep -r tput /etc/profile*
> /etc/profile.d/colorls.csh:  if ( "`tput colors`" == "256" ) then
> /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh:      [ "x`tput colors 2>/dev/null`" = 
> "x256" ] && \
> 
> I get an error when I open a new shell with tcsh:
> 
> tput: Command not found.
> 
> I guess the provider of /etc/profile.d/colorls.* (coreutils) should 
> Requires: ncurses?  Or should this be put into comps?
> 
> "clear" and "reset" are such a basic commands I'd expect them to 
> always be there.  My .logout has had "clear" in it for more than 10 
> years...
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469277
> 

bash should require it, the file below is part of the bash package.

11:13 [summer at numbat ~]$ rpm -qf /etc/skel/.bash_logout
bash-3.1-16.1
11:16 [summer at numbat ~]$

Possibly, mingetty too, it clears the screen.

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From cra at WPI.EDU  Fri Oct 31 02:19:46 2008
From: cra at WPI.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:19:46 -0400
Subject: Will shared swap bite me?
In-Reply-To: <490A695B.2070305@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <490A2FEB.6060101@tmr.com>
	<20081031004605.GF25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<490A695B.2070305@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <20081031021946.GC30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:11:39AM +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
> Chuck Anderson wrote:
>> Yeah, you definately don't want to hibernate to swap on one OS and try  
>> to boot the other.  You'll just lose your hibernated system and leave  
>> the filesystems in inconsistent state.  In general it is very bad to  
>> boot /anything/ other that the original hibernated kernel when after  
>> you have hibernated.  That's why grub doesn't show you a menu when you  
>> boot up in a hibernated state.
>
> _I_ don't think I'd like that. I _can_ hibernate Windows, run Linux,  
> then resume Windows. I've not hibernated Linux at all except  
> accidentally (FC3 I recalled resumed then shutdown, I lost interest 
> then).

It's safe if you don't touch *ANY* filesystems that were mounted when 
the system was hibernated.  For example, it is unsafe to mount the 
Windows partition from Linux, hibernate, then boot Windows.

> I've been running pure 64-bit Fedora and SL5 with no problems that  
> concerned me: I don't know what, if any, browser plugins work, and don't  
> really care. I don't like flash!

swfdec-mozilla is getting really good.  Most popular sites just work.



From dennisml at conversis.de  Fri Oct 31 03:10:12 2008
From: dennisml at conversis.de (Dennis J.)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:10:12 +0100
Subject: rawhide testing results
In-Reply-To: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <490A7714.6010104@conversis.de>

On 10/30/2008 08:37 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> 9. "telinit 3" keeps the keyboard in raw mode or something like that.
> Every key you hit prints a weird different character.  There is no way
> to log into the getty like this.  Had to reboot remotely from SSH.

Could be related to this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=463125

I've also been playing around with oVirt and when I use the virt-viewer to 
access the appliance I get a *really* weird keyboard layout.
Somethings definitely up with keyboard management but I don't know enough 
about the console keyboard initialization process to debug this properly.

Regards,
   Dennis



From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct 31 05:44:57 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:44:57 -0600
Subject: Note to testers of F10: scanbuttond
In-Reply-To: <490A513D.8050300@herakles.homelinux.org>
References: <490A513D.8050300@herakles.homelinux.org>
Message-ID: <20081031054457.GA5633@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:28:45AM +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
> 
> However, it doesn't seem to recognise my scanner,

Some scanners require loading firmware and for some this is just
a question of adding identifiers to configuration files. I know
nothing about your scanner so I cannot give you a specific advice.
Look at various files in /etc/sane.d.

>  and even it it did it 
> would not work. It calls scanimage with the argument "-depth 8" and 
> scanimage, in F9, does not understand that.

It does, provided this is '--depth' and not '-depth'.  The catch is
that this is among "Options specific to device" and 'scanimage -h'
will print that only when it will find a device and its driver.
With that particular scanner I have around it shows

    --depth 16|14|12|8

among many other "specific" options.  If I will use 'epson'
instead of 'epson2' driver, which is possible in this particular
case, then available depths are reduced to only 16 and 8.

> At the very least, "--depth" has to be removed from the scanimage 
> command

That would be likely undesirable and hopefuly nobody will take you on that.
OTOH see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383131
and a discussion there.  That script was obviously meant for a
customization but the last time I looked there, and this was a while
ago, that was not done in a very thoughtfull manner.

   Michal



From mike at miketc.net  Fri Oct 31 07:25:30 2008
From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:25:30 -0500
Subject: rawhide testing results
In-Reply-To: <20081031015617.GB30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<1225400326.27779.4.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081031003803.GD25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<490A53DE.9060603@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081031004312.GE25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<1225417173.1445.33.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<20081031015617.GB30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <1225437930.2715.5.camel@scrappy.miketc.net>

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 21:56 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:

> I was hoping for a more useful response to my first actual question, 
> which was "Is this for all of my issues, or just some?  Which ones?" 
> so that I didn't have to waste my time re-testing everything in the 
> list to find out which ones I do/don't need to report in bugzilla.
> 
> I'm going to go on the assumption that Jesse meant that the Anaconda 
> bugs were already fixed, because I won't get a chance to test a new 
> install again right away.  So I'll focus on the other issues which I 
> *can* retest somewhat more easily (but not as easily as typing "yum 
> update") by checking for updates in koji manually.

If you get the email, you might wait for the "rawhide report" before
doing an install or running updates for that particular day.  For
example, you sent your status email about 2:30pm CST, and rawhide report
email arrived about 11am CST.  So if you had updated around that time or
before that, then you didn't get the latest rawhide bits during install.

I always wait for that report as well as when my server syncs up before
I do an install if I am going to do one, or to run updates.

-- 
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302 at fedoraproject.org



From roger at gwch.net  Fri Oct 31 07:34:46 2008
From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:34:46 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Newer Kernels: Boot failed (Bug in Bugzilla)
Message-ID: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>

I installed 9.92 recently my dell latitude. Everything went well until the first boot.

The system didn't ask for the disk-encryption-password, the plymouth-progress-bar moved
and hung at the end. I rebooted, supressed rghb and quiet in in grub and found the
following messages

- Logical Volume not found (There is a Bug filed in Bugzilla, hoping this meets also my
problem)
- Boot failed

finito, basta.

I couldnt make my mkinitrd as i didnt have modules installed. I tried also a newer
kernel from koji. Same effect.

Does anybody know, if there is hope to get this resolved? I just got it running when
installing from live-cd.

I have also some sideeffects i didnt have with 3d desktopeffects, i havent had when i
installed fresh from rawhide and everything went well.

at least, with the kernel from 9.91 (livecd) i have a working system to test.

Bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466607



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 31 08:44:52 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:44:52 +0000
Subject: Newer Kernels: Boot failed (Bug in Bugzilla)
In-Reply-To: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
References: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
Message-ID: <490AC584.4090902@hi.is>

Roger Grosswiler wrote:
> I installed 9.92 recently my dell latitude. Everything went well until the first boot.
>
> The system didn't ask for the disk-encryption-password, the plymouth-progress-bar moved
> and hung at the end. I rebooted, supressed rghb and quiet in in grub and found the
> following messages
>
> - Logical Volume not found (There is a Bug filed in Bugzilla, hoping this meets also my
> problem)
> - Boot failed
>
> finito, basta.
>
> I couldnt make my mkinitrd as i didnt have modules installed. I tried also a newer
> kernel from koji. Same effect.
>
> Does anybody know, if there is hope to get this resolved? I just got it running when
> installing from live-cd.
>
> I have also some sideeffects i didnt have with 3d desktopeffects, i havent had when i
> installed fresh from rawhide and everything went well.
>
> at least, with the kernel from 9.91 (livecd) i have a working system to test.
>
> Bugzilla:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466607
>
>   
Which Kernel ( had this with -58 ) Updating the kernel or use a older 
one worked
for me suggest you get the latest from koji -69
( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=68170 )

Also you might need to update your mkinitrd to the latest one 69-1
( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=68122 )

JBG
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From roger at gwch.net  Fri Oct 31 10:49:46 2008
From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:49:46 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Newer Kernels: Boot failed (Bug in Bugzilla)
In-Reply-To: <490AC584.4090902@hi.is>
References: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<490AC584.4090902@hi.is>
Message-ID: <5072.193.73.106.102.1225450186.squirrel@www.gwch.net>

> Roger Grosswiler wrote:
>> I installed 9.92 recently my dell latitude. Everything went well until the first boot.
>>
>> The system didn't ask for the disk-encryption-password, the plymouth-progress-bar
>> moved
>> and hung at the end. I rebooted, supressed rghb and quiet in in grub and found the
>> following messages
>>
>> - Logical Volume not found (There is a Bug filed in Bugzilla, hoping this meets also
>> my
>> problem)
>> - Boot failed
>>
>> finito, basta.
>>
>> I couldnt make my mkinitrd as i didnt have modules installed. I tried also a newer
>> kernel from koji. Same effect.
>>
>> Does anybody know, if there is hope to get this resolved? I just got it running when
>> installing from live-cd.
>>
>> I have also some sideeffects i didnt have with 3d desktopeffects, i havent had when i
>> installed fresh from rawhide and everything went well.
>>
>> at least, with the kernel from 9.91 (livecd) i have a working system to test.
>>
>> Bugzilla:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466607
>>
>>
> Which Kernel ( had this with -58 ) Updating the kernel or use a older
> one worked
> for me suggest you get the latest from koji -69
> ( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=68170 )
>
> Also you might need to update your mkinitrd to the latest one 69-1
> ( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=68122 )
>
> JBG
> --

Thx, gonna try this. was installing .68 kernel from koji yesterday, but not
mkinitrd-package. I gonna use .69 kernel and mkinitrd. is there any further action to
do, or is the installtion of those 3 packages (kernel-firmare) enough?

Thanks,
Roger



From johannbg at hi.is  Fri Oct 31 11:47:35 2008
From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:47:35 +0000
Subject: Newer Kernels: Boot failed (Bug in Bugzilla)
In-Reply-To: <5072.193.73.106.102.1225450186.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
References: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>	<490AC584.4090902@hi.is>
	<5072.193.73.106.102.1225450186.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
Message-ID: <490AF057.5010904@hi.is>

Roger Grosswiler wrote:
>> Roger Grosswiler wrote:
>>     
>>> I installed 9.92 recently my dell latitude. Everything went well until the first boot.
>>>
>>> The system didn't ask for the disk-encryption-password, the plymouth-progress-bar
>>> moved
>>> and hung at the end. I rebooted, supressed rghb and quiet in in grub and found the
>>> following messages
>>>
>>> - Logical Volume not found (There is a Bug filed in Bugzilla, hoping this meets also
>>> my
>>> problem)
>>> - Boot failed
>>>
>>> finito, basta.
>>>
>>> I couldnt make my mkinitrd as i didnt have modules installed. I tried also a newer
>>> kernel from koji. Same effect.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know, if there is hope to get this resolved? I just got it running when
>>> installing from live-cd.
>>>
>>> I have also some sideeffects i didnt have with 3d desktopeffects, i havent had when i
>>> installed fresh from rawhide and everything went well.
>>>
>>> at least, with the kernel from 9.91 (livecd) i have a working system to test.
>>>
>>> Bugzilla:
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466607
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Which Kernel ( had this with -58 ) Updating the kernel or use a older
>> one worked
>> for me suggest you get the latest from koji -69
>> ( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=68170 )
>>
>> Also you might need to update your mkinitrd to the latest one 69-1
>> ( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=68122 )
>>
>> JBG
>> --
>>     
>
> Thx, gonna try this. was installing .68 kernel from koji yesterday, but not
> mkinitrd-package. I gonna use .69 kernel and mkinitrd. is there any further action to
> do, or is the installtion of those 3 packages (kernel-firmare) enough?
>
> Thanks,
> Roger
>
>   
You need of course pull in the relevant packages regarding mkinitrd
( deps )

Just install mkinitrd before installing the -69 kernel.

JBG.
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From roger at gwch.net  Fri Oct 31 12:21:10 2008
From: roger at gwch.net (Roger Grosswiler)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:21:10 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Newer Kernels: Boot failed (Bug in Bugzilla)
In-Reply-To: <490AF057.5010904@hi.is>
References: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<490AC584.4090902@hi.is>
	<5072.193.73.106.102.1225450186.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<490AF057.5010904@hi.is>
Message-ID: <39103.193.73.106.102.1225455670.squirrel@www.gwch.net>

> Roger Grosswiler wrote:
>>> Roger Grosswiler wrote:
>>>
>>>> I installed 9.92 recently my dell latitude. Everything went well until the first
>>>> boot.
>>>>
>>>> The system didn't ask for the disk-encryption-password, the plymouth-progress-bar
>>>> moved
>>>> and hung at the end. I rebooted, supressed rghb and quiet in in grub and found the
>>>> following messages
>>>>
>>>> - Logical Volume not found (There is a Bug filed in Bugzilla, hoping this meets also
>>>> my
>>>> problem)
>>>> - Boot failed
>>>>
>>>> finito, basta.
>>>>
>>>> I couldnt make my mkinitrd as i didnt have modules installed. I tried also a newer
>>>> kernel from koji. Same effect.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody know, if there is hope to get this resolved? I just got it running when
>>>> installing from live-cd.
>>>>
>>>> I have also some sideeffects i didnt have with 3d desktopeffects, i havent had when
>>>> i
>>>> installed fresh from rawhide and everything went well.
>>>>
>>>> at least, with the kernel from 9.91 (livecd) i have a working system to test.
>>>>
>>>> Bugzilla:
>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466071
>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466607
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Which Kernel ( had this with -58 ) Updating the kernel or use a older
>>> one worked
>>> for me suggest you get the latest from koji -69
>>> ( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=68170 )
>>>
>>> Also you might need to update your mkinitrd to the latest one 69-1
>>> ( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=68122 )
>>>
>>> JBG
>>> --
>>>
>>
>> Thx, gonna try this. was installing .68 kernel from koji yesterday, but not
>> mkinitrd-package. I gonna use .69 kernel and mkinitrd. is there any further action to
>> do, or is the installtion of those 3 packages (kernel-firmare) enough?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roger
>>
>>
> You need of course pull in the relevant packages regarding mkinitrd
> ( deps )
>
> Just install mkinitrd before installing the -69 kernel.
>
> JBG.
> --
> fedora-test-list mailing list
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> To unsubscribe:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list


ok. i downloaded the following from koji and gonna install this this night:

1) libbdevid-python-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
2) nash-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
3) mkinitrd-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
4) kernel-firmware-2.6.27.4-69.fc10.noarch.rpm
5) kernel-2.6.27.4-69.fc10.i686.rpm

Can i use rpm -U for others than the kernel or is -i more secure?

Cheers, thx,
Roger



From olivares14031 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 31 12:37:25 2008
From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:37:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: fedora 10 beta ==> current rawhide
In-Reply-To: <572546.54558.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <639121.34971.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: fedora 10 beta ==> current rawhide
> To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:40 PM
> Dear all,
> 
> I have gotten a new machine and I installed Fedora 10 Beta
> and currently updating it to current rawhide 1.3 GB of
> updates are coming in currently.  I formatted the root
> partition ext4(used ext4dev).  Last time I tried that, I
> could not boot to latest kernel, I am asking if I should
> change the /etc/fstab to ext4 because the one that I had
> before had ext4dev and the newer kernel(s) had ext4 only. 
> Should I change it now that I can and reboot and boot into
> the newer 2.6.27.4-5??.fc10 kernel?  
> 
> I could not submit smolt profile since the machine was not
> on the network.  I manually assigned an IP to get the
> updates.  Tomorrow in the morning I will see what happens. 
> Thanks for advice/suggestions offered.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio
> 
> BTW:
> before the snapshot issue comes up, I cannot get torrent
> files.  I can only get the releases from mirrors.  I wanted
> to try a network install, but the documentation is not
> current and I do not want to ask for a nice howto that might
> not be available.  
> 
> 
>       
> 
> -- 

I am online with that machine :)
It is working nicely and updated to latest packages!  ext4 is working nicely. I just changed ext4dev to ext4 and it worked!

http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_167f2503-c1b5-441f-81ad-0b2d9f176626 (public)

[root at riohigh2 ~]# uname -r
2.6.27.4-58.fc10.i686

[root at riohigh2 ~]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xb6d5b6d5

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1        6956    55874038+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2            6957       12178    41945715    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3           12179       12504     2618595   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda4           12505       24321    94920052+   5  Extended
/dev/sda5           12505       12517      104391   83  Linux
/dev/sda6           12518       24321    94815598+  83  Linux
[root at riohigh2 ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda6
/dev/sda6: TYPE="ext4"
[root at riohigh2 ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda5
/dev/sda5: TYPE="ext3"

Regards,

Antonio 




      



From rawhide at fedoraproject.org  Fri Oct 31 14:51:22 2008
From: rawhide at fedoraproject.org (Rawhide Report)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:51:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: rawhide report: 20081031 changes
Message-ID: <20081031145123.2D23E1F824C@releng2.fedora.phx.redhat.com>

Compose started at Fri Oct 31 06:01:18 UTC 2008

Updated Packages:

NetworkManager-pptp-0.7.0-0.12.svn4229.fc10
-------------------------------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw at redhat.com> 1:0.7.0-12.svn4229
- Fix hang in auth dialog (rh #467007)


PackageKit-0.3.9-3.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.9-3
- Install the usr/share/cmake/Modules/FindQPackageKit.cmake file so we
  can build KPackageKit from svn head.
- Fix installing the preupgrade package when we check for distro upgrades
  on machines with 32 and 64 bit versions available. Fixes #469172

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes at redhat.com> - 0.3.9-2
- Apply a couple of patches from upstream to fix development filtering
  and installing the web plugin.


binutils-2.18.50.0.9-7.fc10
---------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil at redhat.com> 2.18.50.0.9-7
- Fix %{_prefix}/include/bfd.h on 32-bit hosts due the 64-bit BFD target
  support from 2.18.50.0.8-2 (BZ 468495).

* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil at redhat.com> 2.18.50.0.9-6
- binutils-devel now requires zlib-devel (BZ 463101 comment 5).
- Fix complains on .gnu.linkonce.r relocations to their discarded
  .gnu.linkonce.t counterparts.


digikam-0.10.0-0.6.beta5.fc10
-----------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> - 0.10.0-0.6.beta5
- digikam-0.10.0-beta5


fedora-release-notes-9.92-4
---------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> - 9.92-4
- Fix URI in Release Notes OMF file (#469179)


gambas2-2.9.0-1.fc10
--------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> 2.9.0-1
- Update to 2.9.0


java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-2b12.fc10
------------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 1:1.6.0-2b12
- Updated icedteasnapshot.
- Fixed post scriptlet to remove gcjwebplugin.so.
- Updated jvisualvm requirement.
- Added build option --with-pkgversion=6b12-Fedora-10
- Resolves: rhbz#428503
- Resolves: rhbz#251829
- Resolves: rhbz#415061
- Resolves: rhbz#452188

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> - 1:1.6.0-1.2.b12
- Added netbeans requirement for devel package.
- Fixed removal of gcjwebplugin.so link when installing plugin package.
- Updated Release.
- Resolves: rhbz#468635


kdegraphics-4.1.2-4.fc10
------------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 4.1.2-4
- respin libkexiv2/libkdcraw backport patches


kernel-2.6.27.4-68.fc10
-----------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-67
- radeon: try and workaround AGP badness with kms + enable VRAM mtrr

* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Jarod Wilson <jarod at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-66
- Update to latest firewire git code:
  * Resolve spb2/ohci module load race causing delayed sbp2 logins (#466679)
  * Prevent >256 bus resets from crashing the system (improves #244576)
  * Fix assorted memory leaks
  * Include timestamps in iso packet headers

* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Dave Jones <davej at redhat.com>
- Reduce maximum supported CPUs on x86-64 to 64.

* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied at redhat.com> 2.6.27.4-65
- radeon modesetting : misc fixes - rs690, agp unload, module unload warning


kipi-plugins-0.2.0-0.4.beta3.fc10
---------------------------------
* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 0.2.0-0.4.beta3
- kipi-plugins-0.2.0-beta3


kphotoalbum-3.2-0.4.20081007svn.fc10
------------------------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter at fedoraproject.org> 3.2-0.4.20081007svn
- respin (kdegraphics)


ldm-2.0.15-1.fc10
-----------------
* Fri Oct 31 18:00:00 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 2.0.15-1
- ldminfod tells LDM client location of Xsession script
  fallback to client's known location if ldminfod failed to tell it
- ldminfod moved from ltsp-server to ldminfod package


ltsp-5.1.30-2.fc10
------------------
* Fri Oct 31 18:00:00 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 5.1.30-2
- ltsp-server requires ldminfod

* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> - 5.1.30-1
- ldminfod tells LDM client location of Xsession script
  fallback to client's known location if ldminfod failed to tell it
- ldminfod moved from ltsp-server to ldminfod package
- Add alsa-plugins-pulseaudio to client chroot, should allow most
  localapps to output sound.
- Fix client boot with F10 iproute
- Debug shells on VT2-VT6 are now disabled by default
  edit /var/lib/tftpboot/i386/lts.conf to enable if you need it


mash-0.4.2-3.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> - 0.4.2-3
- Add patch from upstream that hasn't been relased yet.
- Drop patch to ignore F10 key.


mkinitrd-6.0.69-1.fc10
----------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Peter Jones <pjones at redhat.com> - 6.0.69-1
- Make it so we actually handle luks devs, cciss or otherwise. (dlehman)
  Resolves: rhbz#468856


perl-CGI-SpeedyCGI-2.22-4.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 2.22-4
- Fixed default configuration file reading loadmodule (#448320)


phpMyAdmin-3.0.1.1-1.fc10
-------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Robert Scheck <robert at fedoraproject.org> 3.0.1.1-1
- Upstream released 3.0.1.1 (#468974)


plymouth-0.6.0-0.2008.10.30.2.fc10
----------------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.30.2
- Update prompt text colors to be legible on new artwork

* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.30.1
- Drop upstreamed patches
- Patch from Charlie to update artwork
- Patch from Charlie to make password screen match animation better
  (bug 468899)

* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.27.8
- Fix escape at password prompt (bug 467533)


policycoreutils-2.0.57-10.fc10
------------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-10
- Fix traceback in audit2why

* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-9
- Make GUI use translations

* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-8
- Fix typo in man page

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 2.0.57-7
- Handle selinux disabled correctly
- Handle manipulation of fcontext file correctly


pyxdg-0.16-1.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa at redhat.com> - 0.16-1
- update to 0.16
- fix indent bug in DesktopEntry.py (bz 469229)


rhythmbox-0.11.6-15.6005.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.11.6-15.r6005
- Update to rev 6005
- Fixes typo in the LIRC config
- Force GConf library location to be a URI on startup


rssh-2.3.2-5.fc10
-----------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Ian Weller <ianweller at gmail.com> - 2.3.2-5
- Remove pre and post scripts
  - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456182#c17


selinux-policy-3.5.13-11.fc10
-----------------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.13-11
- Fix confined users 
- Allow xguest to read/write xguest_dbusd_t

* Mon Oct 27 18:00:00 2008 Dan Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> 3.5.13-9
- Allow openoffice execstack/execmem privs


shared-mime-info-0.51-4.fc10
----------------------------
* Wed Oct 29 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 0.51-4
- Add patch to avoid picture CD being anything with a pictures directory
  (#459365)


solar-backgrounds-0.91.1-1.fc10
-------------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Martin Sourada <mso at fedoraproject.org> - 0.91.0-2
- Bump Release for rebuild

* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Martin Sourada <mso at fedoraproject.org> - 0.91.0-1
- Split into basic wallpapers with standard resolution (for Live CD Spins) and
  -extras package with more resolutions

* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 0.91.1-1
- Fix 5:4 to be really 1280x1024, not 1280x1014 (add top 10px from dual version)

* Tue Oct 28 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> - 0.90.0-2
- Split out a -common so we can symlink the wallpapers we need in the KDE theme
- without having to require all the ones we can't use.


solar-kde-theme-0.1.11-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.1.10-3
- list 1200x900 (OLPC XO) for 4:3
- list 1280x768 (5:3) as widescreen (used by at least one netbook)

* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Kevin Kofler <Kevin at tigcc.ticalc.org> 0.1.10-2
- use backgrounds from solar-backgrounds-common (>= 0.91.0, with the new look)
- support aspect ratios in the KDM theme
- add some more 4:3 and 8:5 resolutions to the symlink lists (KDM, wallpapers)
- use solar_wide.png for 800x480 and 1024x600 in KDM and wallpapers

* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at redhat.com> 0.1.11-1
- fixes full qualified host name runs past the boundaries (bz#469048)
- removes backgrounds from source tarball


totem-pl-parser-2.24.2-1.fc10
-----------------------------
* Thu Oct 30 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> - 2.24.2-1
- Update to 2.24.2


xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-38.fc10
------------------------------

Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 28









Broken deps for ppc64
----------------------------------------------------------
	livecd-tools-019-1.fc10.ppc64 requires yaboot





From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct 31 15:31:28 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:31:28 -0600
Subject: Newer Kernels: Boot failed (Bug in Bugzilla)
In-Reply-To: <39103.193.73.106.102.1225455670.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
References: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<490AC584.4090902@hi.is>
	<5072.193.73.106.102.1225450186.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<490AF057.5010904@hi.is>
	<39103.193.73.106.102.1225455670.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
Message-ID: <20081031153128.GA16216@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 01:21:10PM +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote:
> 
> ok. i downloaded the following from koji and gonna install this this night:
> 
> 1) libbdevid-python-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
> 2) nash-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
> 3) mkinitrd-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
> 4) kernel-firmware-2.6.27.4-69.fc10.noarch.rpm
> 5) kernel-2.6.27.4-69.fc10.i686.rpm
> 
> Can i use rpm -U for others than the kernel or is -i more secure?

If you are not sure then, in a directory with downloaded rpms, do

   yum --nogpgcheck update *6.0.69-1.fc10*
   yum --nogpgcheck update k*2.6.27.4-69.fc10*

Note - no quotes this time.  You _want_ a shell expansion to happen.

   Michal



From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct 31 15:37:08 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:37:08 -0600
Subject: Newer Kernels: Boot failed (Bug in Bugzilla)
In-Reply-To: <20081031153128.GA16216@mail.harddata.com>
References: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<490AC584.4090902@hi.is>
	<5072.193.73.106.102.1225450186.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<490AF057.5010904@hi.is>
	<39103.193.73.106.102.1225455670.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<20081031153128.GA16216@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <20081031153708.GB16216@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:31:28AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 01:21:10PM +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote:
> > 
> > ok. i downloaded the following from koji and gonna install this this night:
> > 
> > 1) libbdevid-python-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
> > 2) nash-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
> > 3) mkinitrd-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
> > 4) kernel-firmware-2.6.27.4-69.fc10.noarch.rpm
> > 5) kernel-2.6.27.4-69.fc10.i686.rpm
> > 
> > Can i use rpm -U for others than the kernel or is -i more secure?
> 
> If you are not sure then, in a directory with downloaded rpms, do
> 
>    yum --nogpgcheck update *6.0.69-1.fc10*
>    yum --nogpgcheck update k*2.6.27.4-69.fc10*
> 
> Note - no quotes this time.  You _want_ a shell expansion to happen.

Oops!  Sending too fast.  Sorry.  Make the above into "localupdate":

    yum --nogpgcheck localupdate *6.0.69-1.fc10*
    yum --nogpgcheck localupdate k*2.6.27.4-69.fc10*

      Michal



From Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil  Fri Oct 31 15:43:19 2008
From: Todd.Denniston at ssa.crane.navy.mil (Todd Denniston)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:43:19 -0400
Subject: Newer Kernels: Boot failed (Bug in Bugzilla)
In-Reply-To: <20081031153708.GB16216@mail.harddata.com>
References: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>	<490AC584.4090902@hi.is>	<5072.193.73.106.102.1225450186.squirrel@www.gwch.net>	<490AF057.5010904@hi.is>	<39103.193.73.106.102.1225455670.squirrel@www.gwch.net>	<20081031153128.GA16216@mail.harddata.com>
	<20081031153708.GB16216@mail.harddata.com>
Message-ID: <490B2797.1080905@ssa.crane.navy.mil>

Michal Jaegermann wrote, On 10/31/2008 11:37 AM:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:31:28AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 01:21:10PM +0100, Roger Grosswiler wrote:
>>> ok. i downloaded the following from koji and gonna install this this night:
>>>
>>> 1) libbdevid-python-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
>>> 2) nash-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
>>> 3) mkinitrd-6.0.69-1.fc10.i386.rpm
>>> 4) kernel-firmware-2.6.27.4-69.fc10.noarch.rpm
>>> 5) kernel-2.6.27.4-69.fc10.i686.rpm
>>>
>>> Can i use rpm -U for others than the kernel or is -i more secure?

[ignoring signature issues]
If you have a current (older) kernel that boots and works, you probably want 
to use -i with the rpm command with the kernels (only) vs -U because -U would 
remove the old working kernels...
I am not sure if the below yum commands will obey the install only kernel 
settings you normally get with yum, but I suspect they might.


> 
> Oops!  Sending too fast.  Sorry.  Make the above into "localupdate":
> 
>     yum --nogpgcheck localupdate *6.0.69-1.fc10*
>     yum --nogpgcheck localupdate k*2.6.27.4-69.fc10*
> 

-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter



From davej at redhat.com  Fri Oct 31 16:06:41 2008
From: davej at redhat.com (Dave Jones)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:06:41 -0400
Subject: Will shared swap bite me?
In-Reply-To: <20081031021946.GC30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <490A2FEB.6060101@tmr.com>
	<20081031004605.GF25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<490A695B.2070305@herakles.homelinux.org>
	<20081031021946.GC30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <20081031160641.GB2926@redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:19:46PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:

 > > I've been running pure 64-bit Fedora and SL5 with no problems that  
 > > concerned me: I don't know what, if any, browser plugins work, and don't  
 > > really care. I don't like flash!
 > 
 > swfdec-mozilla is getting really good.  Most popular sites just work.

Really?  I found the only one that really works is youtube, and that
FSVO 'works'. Every other media sharing site I've tried like vimeo, ovi
even the cesspool that is myspace seem to fail completely.

It's not just video/sound playback that fails either. Finance.google.com
is great if pretty cyan squares are your thing. There's a bunch of similar
sites that have flash UI's that just fall to pieces.

(swfdec is still 1000% more useful than gnash, which can't seem to much
 of anything other than segfault the browser)

	Dave

-- 
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk



From bruno at wolff.to  Fri Oct 31 16:52:47 2008
From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:52:47 -0500
Subject: rawhide testing results
In-Reply-To: <20081031015617.GB30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
References: <20081030193733.GA25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<1225400326.27779.4.camel@luminos.localdomain>
	<20081031003803.GD25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<490A53DE.9060603@fedoraproject.org>
	<20081031004312.GE25014@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
	<1225417173.1445.33.camel@bree.homelinux.com>
	<20081031015617.GB30303@angus.ind.WPI.EDU>
Message-ID: <20081031165247.GB9287@wolff.to>

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:56:17 -0400,
  Chuck Anderson <cra at WPI.EDU> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I kinda knew that, but was hoping there was a better way.  I 
> thought there had been discussion at one point of running createrepo 
> on kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org.

I am pretty sure that repos do get built pretty often there, but I am not
exactly sure how to use them. I am pretty sure it was discussed in the last
month though.

What I have been doing lately is syncing to a rawhide mirror and the asking
koji for a list of the latest packages, pull in the ones I don't have yet
and then build a new repo. That works reasonably well, but has been a bit
odd since the dist-f10-updates-candidate tag started getting used. The
--latest and --inherit options don't work together the way i would have
expected. I have a bugzilla in about that.



From michal at harddata.com  Fri Oct 31 17:52:43 2008
From: michal at harddata.com (Michal Jaegermann)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:52:43 -0600
Subject: Newer Kernels: Boot failed (Bug in Bugzilla)
In-Reply-To: <490B2797.1080905@ssa.crane.navy.mil>
References: <57399.193.73.106.102.1225438486.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<490AC584.4090902@hi.is>
	<5072.193.73.106.102.1225450186.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<490AF057.5010904@hi.is>
	<39103.193.73.106.102.1225455670.squirrel@www.gwch.net>
	<20081031153128.GA16216@mail.harddata.com>
	<20081031153708.GB16216@mail.harddata.com>
	<490B2797.1080905@ssa.crane.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <20081031175243.GA20363@mail.harddata.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:43:19AM -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:
> Michal Jaegermann wrote, On 10/31/2008 11:37 AM:
> I am not sure if the below yum commands will obey the install only kernel 
> settings you normally get with yum, but I suspect they might.
> 
> >
> >Oops!  Sending too fast.  Sorry.  Make the above into "localupdate":
> >
> >    yum --nogpgcheck localupdate *6.0.69-1.fc10*
> >    yum --nogpgcheck localupdate k*2.6.27.4-69.fc10*

Yes, they will behave the same like with yum pulling updates from a
"regular" repository hence will take care about those details you
are not so sure about.  You will be asked for a confirmation anyway
unless you will add '-y' flag.  '--nogpgcheck' is needed because
koji packages are not signed.

   Michal



From gayleard at eircom.net  Wed Oct 29 02:27:47 2008
From: gayleard at eircom.net (Timothy Murphy)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:27:47 +0000
Subject: Fedora-10 killed my computer ...
In-Reply-To: <753ec7300810281312i4cc87305q736ac7824c790310@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810262038.51135.gayleard@eircom.net>
	<ge2tek$7ig$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<753ec7300810281312i4cc87305q736ac7824c790310@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200810290227.47368.gayleard@eircom.net>

On Tuesday 28 October 2008 20:12:13 David Mack wrote:

> Probably a silly question, but is it a USB keyboard? If so, does your
> BIOS support USB keyboard and is it enabled in the BIOS? Does the
> machine have PS/2 connectors and can you try a PS/2 keyboard?

No, it is a standard PS/2 keyboard.
As I mentioned in another post,
the problem was almost certainly due to a dying CMOS battery,
which I have now replaced.