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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=219133821-15012004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> Good point, there's a careful balancing
act that has to be done when you (Fedora) consider automatic configuration vs.
ease of use. Microsoft has chosen the latter of the two and look where it
got them, the next Windows XP service pack that's coming out is going to clamp
down on all of the services/ports that are left wide open by a default Windows
XP install because M$ has been getting burned by several different
virus/worms.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=219133821-15012004> <FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I think the Fedora project has chosen to give
everyone a secure installation by default, if you want to open up your system to
the world after the fact that's your choice. Again, there is no "hacking"
involved in setting this up, unless you consider using a CLI and editing config
files "hacking". Also you must keep in mind that Samba has to reverse
engineer everything to work with AD, which M$ stole from Novell, and that is by
no means a trivial task. I'd say if you really wanted to demo to your
company the power/flexibility/freedom of Linux to setup a Samba server as a
domain controller. Then try using the GUI Samba Authentication tool and
see if it works... I bet it would.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> marc.mcswain@academy.com
[mailto:marc.mcswain@academy.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 15, 2004
3:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B> fedora-test-list@redhat.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: file
sharing<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>While I think that this is a bit,
ok, way off topic, this thread seems to be the kind of thing that I hear all too
often. People in a Micro$oft world are used to the software doing
everything for them. I choose to use Linux because it does not try and do
everything for me. This way I can choose the way things are setup, and
what security risks that I am willing to deal with. FC1 will attach to
Windows Shares with no problems, and Samba will use Micro$oft AD for Security,
we use it every day. Does it take some configuration, yes. Is that
too much to ask of an admin, no.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>OK,
I will get off my soapbox now.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Marc</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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<TD width="40%"><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>"stephan schutter"
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size=2><TT>This is just my point, though; why all this hacking to get this
working? The<BR>experts in the community (or RedHat) could set it up right to
start with.<BR>Customer / Client supplies data needed (NT domain name and
credentials) then<BR>voila! <BR><BR>You know, the more you do FOR the user the
more the user LIKES you. And it<BR>is within the scope of Fedora to make a great
desktop product eventually,<BR>right?<BR><BR>I am relaying FEEDBACK to this
list. From several people; current IT people<BR>(MS based as most are) and end
users, and managers... Learning is expensive.<BR>I was hoping that Fedora as a
project would appreciate feedback from<BR>non-Linux
admins.<BR><BR>Stephan<BR><BR></TT></FONT><BR></BODY></HTML>