<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.0.9"> </HEAD> <BODY> Everyone that tries to install a OS must know a bit... even more true when it comes to Linux. A simple MS office user don't try it.. So, it also knows what "beta" means.... There is no escuse for those who say that only seen the disclaimer *after*... Sorry for my english A Ter, 2004-04-20 às 21:47, Keith Lofstrom escreveu: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE>(cc. tfox@redhat.com, Fedora documentation leader) Keith wrote to the fedora-test-list: > Let's work on those disclaimers, okay? Alan Cox replied: > It has them, when it boots. And nobody knew it didnt boot on some systems > until they tried it - thats what testing found. Here is the disclaimer, AFTER booting "linux text" (graphic is the same): --------------- Warning! This is pre-release software ! ---------------- Thank you for downloading this pre-release of Fedora Core. This is not a final release and is not intended for use on production systems. The purpose of this release is to collect feedback from testers, and is not suitable for day to day usage. To report feedback, please visit: <A HREF="http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla">http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla</A> and file a report against 'Fedora Core'. [ Exit ] [ Install Anyway ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's it. That's all. It says nothing about "updates don't work" or "box of broken glass" or "test releases eat babies". And to get to that screen, a hell of a lot of code has to work - at least booting and anaconda and so forth. If the installer isn't working, this message is inaccessable - in effect, no disclamer is provided anywhere in the process, to counterbalance the invitation to participate in testing on the web pages. No suggestion is made to hunt through thousands of list messages to perform an attitude check before joining in the fun. And a potential tester has to spend the hours to days necessary to download the ISOs before this message is even potentially accessable (this posting might help advanced Googlers find it). I am asking to place information on the download page, warning people before they go through the work of downloading and attempting to help with testing that they are not invited to participate unless they understand certain things and meet some qualifications. Potential participants also need to be warned that 30 years of experience testing software in other venues does not necessarily apply here; the rules for Fedora are different