You make a good point. No need for Red Hat to take on the risks when Novell already has. At the moment Fedora can still compete because of repositories like <a href="http://nrpms.net">nrpms.net</a> on the Mono front, but out-of-the-box SuSE is going to overtake Fedora. But the value behind those mono apps, such as F-Spot, Beagle, Muine is tremendous. They're what makes the desktop actually competitive with MS and Apple. SuSE is doing well in that regard. Benjy <div>On 12/15/05, Paul F. Johnson <<a href="mailto:paul@all-the-johnsons.co.uk">paul@all-the-johnsons.co.uk</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi, > I know this topic has been mentioned over and over, and everyone is > irritated by it. But why not meet the Mono project half-way? Why > can't the hal-sharp and the dbus-sharp, and gtk-sharp add-ons be > included in the fedora packages? Because you can't is the simplest one. The reason is simple (from what I can see). Despite the Borg going through EMCA, they have never catagorically stated that anyone implementing .NET will not have their backsides taken to town, wupped until the red goes red and finally ravaged like a pack of hungry hounds with a lump of week old meat. Without the mono runtime, having gtk-sharp et al is a waste of space as nothing can actually use them, Red Hat run the risk of MS doing an SCO on them (but this time there would be a case to answer to) and we all lose. Unlike over mp3 and mpeg, I actually agree with Red Hat over this. It's all well and good SuSE doing Mono (after all, it is their product), if they get hammered by MS, they lose and we continue. If .NET material gets incorporated into the likes of Nautilus, Gnome, Evolution and HAL, then everyone loses should MS decide to do what they are so famous for doing. TTFN Paul -- main(t,_,a) char*a;{return!0<t?t<3?main(-79,-13,a+main(-87,1-_,main(-86, 0,a+1 )+a)):1,t<_?main(t+1,_,a :3,main (-94,-27+t,a)&&t==2?_<13?main(2, _+1,"%s %d %d\n"):9:16:t<0?t<-72?main(_,t,"@n'+,#'/*{}+/w#cdnr/+,{}r/*de} +,/*{*+,/w{%+,/w#q#n+,/#{l,+,/n{n+,/+#n+,/#;#q#n+,/+k#;*+,/'r :'d*'3,}{w+ Kw'K:'+}e#';dq#'lq#'+d'K#!/+k#;q#'r}eKK#}w'r}eKK{nl]'/#;#q#n'){)#}w'){) {nl]'/+#n';d}rw' i;#){nl]!/n{n#';r{#w'r nc{nl]'/#{l,+'K{rw'iK{;[{nl]'/w#q #n'wk nw' iwk{KK{nl]!/w{%'l##w#'i;:{nl]'/*{q#'ld;r'}{nlwb!/*de}'c;;{nl'- {}rw]'/+,}##'*}#nc,',#nw]'/+kd'+e}+;#'rdq#w! nr'/ ') }+}{rl#'{n' ')# }'+} ##(!!/"):t<-50?_==*a?putchar(31[a]):main(-65,_,a+1):main((*a=='/')+t,_,a+1 ):0<t?main(2,2,"%s"):*a=='/'||main(0,main(-61,*a,"!ek;dc i@bK'(q)-[w]*%n+ r3#l,{}:\nuwloca-O;m .vpbks,fxntdCeghiry"),a+1);} -- fedora-test-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-test-list@redhat.com">fedora-test-list@redhat.com</a> To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list </a> </blockquote></div>