<div>On 10/22/07, Mary Ellen Foster <<a href="mailto:mefoster@gmail.com">mefoster@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On 22/10/2007, Fulko Hew <<a href="mailto:fulko.hew@gmail.com">fulko.hew@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > a) when I start NetworkManager(Dispatcher) and KNetworkManager, > KNetworkManager does not list my wired eth0, and does not list > any wireless networks. Are you using knetworkmanager on Rawhide? As far as I know, knetworkmanager doesn't work with the newest NetworkManager and you should use nm-applet instead.</blockquote> <div style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> Yes, I was trying to use knetworkmanager. I tried nm-applet last week, and that didn't work for me, so I gave up on it. But today... IT WORKS! :-) </div> So... as it stands: a) I appear to have wireless working now. b) use 'nm-applet', not 'knetworkmanager' but... c) The wireless LED on the laptop no longer shows any network activity. d) Fn-F2 no longer disables (controls) wireless e) When I try to use Fn-F2, it is ignored, wireless continues to work, and /var/log/messages complains with: Oct 22 12:50:36 fulkol kernel: iwl3945: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On: Oct 22 12:50:36 fulkol kernel: Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work. </div>