yep, I should seek a psychiatrist ! - it is simply unbelievable. But bits and pieces are falling into place, as the computer shows info pages and behaves. I have a lot to catch up with, get configured .. but what can anyone say to such an unbelievable story, I wonder. Is there anything to learn from this ? "Arne Chr. Jorgensen" <achrisjo@yahoo.com> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> hi, I am too worked up ! Too upset ! writing these lines. How long have I been on this email-list ?? ( I wonder ) 1. Perhaps I needed this experience ??!! - can it be useful somehow ? 2. Early on, I asked if there was any "moderator" - I asked if there was any "contact personel" ? - Asked if I may post a private mail to certain people. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- <table class="messageheader" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="label" nowrap="nowrap">Subject:</td><td> ping Michael Schwendt</td></tr> <tr><td class="label" nowrap="nowrap">To:</td><td>fedora-test-list@redhat.com</td></tr> </tbody></table> <form name="frmAddAddrs" action="http://address.mail.yahoo.com/yab/us?v=YM&.rand=20154&A=m&simp=1" method="post"> <input name="fn" value="Arne Chr." type="hidden"> <input name="ln" value="Jorgensen" type="hidden"> <input name="e" value="achrisjo@yahoo.com" type="hidden"> <input name=".done" value="http://us.f637.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=9953_6519904_101761_599_659_0_17153_-1_0&order=down&inc=&sort=date&view=a&head=b&box=Sent&YY=67324" type="hidden"> </form>  hi, May I email a question directly to you ? //ARNE achrisjo@yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- - I have asked if there is a training program, or some mentor that could show me a bit around. - most importantly - I have asked about some help with setting up environment. Ubunto, Suse, nobody has been able to boot up, except Fedora has somehow bypassed some obstacles. ------------------------ Who I am: - I was mighty surprised when I came across some internal resource files at IBM, as how to boot up RedHat on some ppc hardware. Yeah - I thought, I have struggled with that.. and read the article. Surprise !! It carried my name ! - In work with the first Realtime Linux in a NIST project, I did did some contribution, solved register usage for 486 in some code from NASA, that nobody else had been able to. - I have been head of my "small" company, called to assist technical problems around the world. - Personal friends, those I went to school with, - experts in Unix, patentholders for internal code used in most cellular/mobile phones around the world. They shy away from Fedora - because the have seen how I struggled with it. They run other distro instead because of this. - I have retired, closed down my company, I have some health issues, I am rusty, stupid at times, etc. But with a little help - perhaps I could be of some help to you ? And I know there is thousands people out there that struggle. Chuck Ebbert from this site pointed it out, did assist me some with bugzilla.kernel.org It's been a nightmare for way..way too long. The stupidity is part of my own doing, but it's not easy to communicate from some unreliable and unstable machines. Yes there are some wikipedia info, and other stuff but if you cannot get X, or get a reliable connection, and... when you have "falled off the wagon" ... you may miss out on even the elementary and basic issues that everyone has taken for granted. I believe there can be something for everyone here, why I share this silly and lame story. I never would believe I would experience it, but I have. I came into the madhouse - this site, I have never understood how the fuck you guys work here. I am ashamed, my self esteem has hit rock bottom - not that fun to stand out as some complete fool and idiot. Do wonder what your meeting will be about, but I guess I will miss out on that too, as I don't know what packages to install, how to connect, or any of that. I will not be able to learn all that fast enough to do it. I am rusty, and out of focus, but new guys arrive at this site, new users will join Fedora, and I sure hope for your sake and for theirs, that they never come into a situation as I just have told. //ARNE My las post,subject: Re: Oh..fuck !! "Arne Chr. Jorgensen" <achrisjo@yahoo.com> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> "Arne Chr. Jorgensen" <achrisjo@yahoo.com> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> In the following message, I have come to learn something that has puzzled me, something that has caused me so much trouble in order to keep track of things ! A threaded list-archive !!! Hell, I got thousands on mails, at a yahoo server, and I have asked/mentioned it before too.. Gee !! //ARNE - ahhhh.....sigh....smile... </blockquote>That is impossible, huh ?! I fully agree - it should not .... but when you change from your trusted o'l RedHat, do the mistake to think Fedora is just another name for your o'l pal, - the story begins ;) Then try to salvage a sinking ship, fight the leaks and streams of water (updates), then the trickstery begins. Add ISP trouble, difficult hardware. And if you cry for help in a polite way.... then..... the fun stuff starts. 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