Michael Schwendt <mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam@arcor.de> wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:16:56 -0700 (PDT), Arne Chr. Jorgensen wrote: > > > > For more then 1 year, I have not been able to download email. Imagine having to > > browse the wikipages with lynx, or a desktop in which most buttons fall outside > > the screen. Imagine installing fedora under such circumstances. > > What was your computer running before that? Very likely you could have > returned to the older installation (or live-CD/DVD) that works. > It has been one disaster after another, but much of it had to do with my ISP provider that used months to give me a stable connection. They have fixed it, but I haven't fixed other machines that crashed. You know, you may run things for 5-10 years, and you never prepare for disaster. The old hardware couldn't run much of Fedora. In Fedora 8, there are still some options unavailable in text mode. Not new, as I think that has existed in several prior releases. ( should have taken notes ) > > I did manage to get something from rawhide with only "half" answers as > > what to do, an attempt to recreate the missing parts. > > You can also improve the communication on your part before complaining > about "half answers". Surely you could trim your messages, reply _below_ > quotes instead of above a complete message, and be clear and precise. > Avoid vulgar language. To Threaten the readers of your messages that you > leave and install a different Linux distribution, if you don't get > dedicated support by email, won't increase the number of helpful responses > either. > I stand corrected. But tired, frustrated, I don't usually use vulgar language, but I have struggled much with reading online, using awkward methods ..well.. Quote: To Threaten the readers.... Well, sorry - unthoughtful of me, not meant that way. > > > When I ask about such things like, could someone please give me an example of > > the command line for the python.bugzilla I did install, as all I get is: > > > > xmlrpclib.ProtocolError: > > > > It is a program like many others. Additionally, it's brand-new and > > probably suffers from bugs and not enough testing. > > > My worry, - was it dangerous ? - could I harm the site ? Well, I tried to copy your email address, send a quick question what you meant. But, then I didn't get that right. I sent an email: ping Michael Schwendt Tried many things, with network cable removed. Went over it again, had to ...etc. One thing is to break something on my machine, - but against a site is different. An ISP administrator told me to erase something, but I called him 3 times, as I knew something was wrong. Half the country got affected. ( and I have heard of other examples ) ..so, what did Michael mean ? Why I also said: - I don't need write access, ( think it was to Andrew Farris ), meaning it could havoc something. It's just my reaction to "half answers", as of the sort of work I have been into, as it has been a matter of life/death, in which the decition was left to me. It can stress me up. ( at the end ) I intend to do no harm, not to offend anyone, .. I wonder if I am at the wrong place, and just stir up myself and others. Sometimes I should just shut up, not talk about ideas, as then I set myself up in a situation to try prove it. It should be easier. You cannot expect ordinary users to configure their machines themselves - on the other hand, don't take it away from them either. Empower people ! Let them receive suggested configurations - for their particular machine. Or - next time, let them receive info about the next upgrade, - why their effort matters. Even for old releases. When a kid can have his dad's old one, he will love RH/Fedora too. It must be simple to maintain, and operate. ( note: I did remove something, - you would have understood. But then come to think of this: > > > I asked if you had archeives, if there was a treaded list, > > - but no, the answer I got was "don't think so, and besides the > > things change so fast, why bother ?" > > That was wrong advise, then. Instead of waiting for somebody else to > tell you that there are full list archives in mbox format, you could have > visited the address at the bottom of every message and learn about the > list, its archives, and lots of other options yourself. > Well, that is the first time I have heard about it, and how should I guess with that title. Besides, I asked more then once. You are very right to correct me Michael, thank you ! I really did a bummer, expressing as I did - I have struggled so much with it, that I simply forgot my discovery !! So, I did remove some parts here. But all the more important that we may contact each other, if something is unclear - without shouting and all that stuff, if this list are public. Thanks, //ARNE <hr size=1>Looking for last minute shopping deals? <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping"> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.</a>