On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 12:27 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > >> Also, does quiet affect display of shutdown messages? Not seeing any > >> with upstart. > > > > I see this too. Seems to be upstart quirk/bug. Can you file a bug report > > please? > > I'm not certain this is entirely bad behavior. I guess it depends on what upstart intends to accomplish. Fedora in general is (in my opinion) rightly moving in a direction of showing less technically informational messages (RHGB) that might confuse the less technically saavy users (or convertees). At least, there could be a button to click to enable or disable messages like RHGB does. -b