Hello my question is what is it on f10 that you need? and why not use f9? <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Bob Arendt <<a href="mailto:rda@rincon.com">rda@rincon.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Michal Jaegermann wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> That turns out to be really simple. Just "upgrade" a working F8 installation to F10 and that solves that right away. The laptop in question is a rather old Acer TravelMate 230 with "Intel Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz" and Intel 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE graphics. Works with F8 quite nicely (save some non-critical quibbles). </blockquote> < ... snip ...> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Add to that X server immediately crashing like this: <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474540" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474540</a> and we are in a full "fun" mode. I did not see yet an upgrade in such bad shape and I did not touch yet, for obvious reasons, suspend and hibernate. Those were broken by F8 too but eventually I got them going and on F8 kernel did not require any extra options save a / file system location. I am afraid that a disk on this laptop is too small to allow for "parallel" installations of F8 and F10. The box will be needed pretty soon for work purposes so if I will not find rather quickly how to get it going with F10 I will have to revert it to the previous state. Big sigh but yes, I have this option. Michal </blockquote> I feel your pain. I've got a Dell Inspiron 1100 with the same graphics chip. There's some partial Xorg success: <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469292" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469292</a> but the performance figures aren't up to snuff with F9. In the future, I'd heartily endorse using 2 or 4G USB stick with a "Live" version to evaluate it first. The live image is about 700M, and you have lots of space for updates or additional packages. Fortunately my problems are isolated to a F10 thumbdrive, while I still have F9 on the main disk. -Bob -- fedora-test-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-test-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">fedora-test-list@redhat.com</a> To unsubscribe: <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list</a> </blockquote></div>